Alex Jones Show - 20060130_Mon_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 Well, I've been chomping at the bit all weekend long to get in here in studio, and now I'm here.

00:00:36.000 Thank you so much for joining us all across the country, listening on the AM and FM dial, as well as the satellite, the internet at Infowars.com and Infowars.net, and of course on global shortwave, the big 100,000 watt blowtorch out of Tennessee, WWCR.

00:00:57.000 We've got Webster Tarbley, who's an amazing political researcher, especially when you talk about government-sponsored terror and the British oligarchy that is the predominant, penultimate power in the world today.

00:01:10.000 He will be joining us in the second and third hours he has scheduled.

00:01:16.000 In the meantime, of course, we'll have open phones.

00:01:19.000 Police faked tube death log.

00:01:22.000 Remember the de Mendez individual?

00:01:26.000 Who was killed execution style?

00:01:28.000 Well, no style about it.

00:01:30.000 It was an execution premeditated.

00:01:32.000 We can guess why, what we think we know, but we know they killed him on purpose, by design.

00:01:37.000 Turns out the logs were faked.

00:01:38.000 Of course they were faked!

00:01:40.000 So I want to spend some time on this because it's just one more example, one more thimble out of this oceanic vastness of lies.

00:01:51.000 Everything is a lie.

00:01:52.000 I mean, folks, I counted them up this morning.

00:01:56.000 There are eleven different stories from this weekend and today, Monday, of our government paying for fake newscasts, propagandizing the American people, planting false news stories, lying.

00:02:14.000 And frankly, in three hours, I couldn't cover all eleven properly.

00:02:19.000 There are multiple examples of governments premeditatedly lying, and then they never get in trouble.

00:02:25.000 And then we're supposed to just trust these people.

00:02:28.000 That's my frustration here.

00:02:30.000 But you know what?

00:02:30.000 I've recommitted not to what I call overheat here on the air because I listened to a rebroadcast this weekend and for part of the show, part of the broadcast, I mean it was still listenable and interesting, but I was jabbering, gibbering like a monkey.

00:02:47.000 Because I get in here and I try to detail each little area, and then I don't cover a bunch of news I wanted to get to, and then it just doesn't, at the end of the day... The problem is, I want to cover it all.

00:02:59.000 And I want to detail just how dastardly it is.

00:03:02.000 I mean, the thing we're facing, this world government we're facing is so evil, and so big, and so out in the open, That it just blows my mind.

00:03:12.000 But just here's some of the news.

00:03:13.000 I always say here's some of the news and I can't even read one headline without getting into details on it, but... Police fake tube death log.

00:03:21.000 Here's another one.

00:03:22.000 Iran warns of missile strike on the US and Israel.

00:03:25.000 Exxon Mobil sees record profit for US company division.

00:03:30.000 Same thing with Chevron.

00:03:31.000 Same headline.

00:03:32.000 Mirtha says Iraq is now a civil war.

00:03:34.000 It was always designed to be that, Mirtha. 0.83

00:03:36.000 ABC News anchor Bob Woodruff, who I've met before, an interesting fella, and cameraman injured pretty badly over in Iraq, because it is such a civil war.

00:03:45.000 It's Bedlam.

00:03:47.000 Gunman stormed the Palestinian Parliament.

00:03:49.000 I'm sure you've heard about this five million times over the weekend, but I've got my own take on it.

00:03:53.000 Neocon mouthpieces still clinging to Osama Bin Laden linked to Iraq.

00:03:58.000 And U.S.

00:03:59.000 plans to fight the net revealed.

00:04:02.000 This is just one of the eleven I've chosen to cover today.

00:04:06.000 This is the BBC, and it says the Pentagon is going to be attacking our websites, and it's going to plant even more false news, now even more provocateurs, paid on the web, trying to turn patriots and freedom folks against each other.

00:04:19.000 And I can sit here and name who the people are right now.

00:04:21.000 We already know who a bunch of them are.

00:04:23.000 I never really spent a lot of time on there.

00:04:25.000 I've even hired PIs a few times to confirm my suspicions, and I just move on.

00:04:29.000 Just here it is, folks.

00:04:31.000 U.S.

00:04:31.000 plans to fight the net revealed.

00:04:34.000 We already know their plans.

00:04:35.000 See, nothing the globalists do is secret because it's all manifest on the ground level.

00:04:40.000 I know what goes on in the war rooms of the New World Order because I can see their program right out in front of me. 0.84

00:04:48.000 I mean, it's just... Here's another one.

00:04:51.000 Stage White House photos.

00:04:53.000 It's just all... You see, I said I'd cover one.

00:04:56.000 I was already covering two.

00:04:57.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:58.000 Stay with us.

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00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 Alright, I want to spend some time today on a key facet Going on worldwide, but especially in the western world, of the police state, and that is fake newscasts.

00:08:30.000 Pentagon-planted news stories.

00:08:33.000 I mean, the general public thinks there's a conservative bias or there's a liberal bias, and the establishment would love for the average person to just stay in that paradigm.

00:08:43.000 You've got some Americans who aren't even that informed.

00:08:46.000 They think that there's no bias and whatever they read in a book or whatever's in the newspaper or whatever's on TV or on the radio, it must be true.

00:08:54.000 Then you've got the folks that are a little bit more sophisticated, so they think they've discovered a conservative bias or a liberal bias.

00:09:00.000 And certainly there are different flavors of disinfo.

00:09:02.000 They may have a conservative flair or a liberal palette to it, but at the end of the day, it's the same agenda moving you in the same direction.

00:09:14.000 And this broadcast is not conservative or liberal.

00:09:17.000 It is constitutional.

00:09:20.000 We are wedded to the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:09:23.000 I love America.

00:09:25.000 I love Americana.

00:09:28.000 I don't like secret police squads.

00:09:30.000 I don't like FEMA camps being built.

00:09:32.000 I don't like the draft boards being set back up.

00:09:34.000 That's not an urban legend.

00:09:36.000 Or the bills introduced to reinstate the draft.

00:09:39.000 I believe national conscription is slavery.

00:09:42.000 I don't think that we can be a sovereign nation with open borders.

00:09:45.000 And I know our government is funding Mexico and others to help dissolve our borders. 0.94

00:09:51.000 On some issues, people will call me a liberal.

00:09:55.000 On other issues, they will call me a conservative.

00:09:57.000 Folks, I know we have a lot of new listeners every day, every five minutes, so I'm just recapping the fact that this broadcast is about liberty.

00:10:06.000 It's about controlling your own destiny.

00:10:08.000 I don't look at an issue and go, well, since Hillary's a Democrat, I guess I'm for open borders and wiretaps and troll and international taxation. 0.98

00:10:18.000 No, I look at it and go, I don't care whether Hillary Clinton's a Republican or a Democrat, I'm going to be against her because most of her policies and her directions are bad. 0.97

00:10:28.000 Same thing with George Bush.

00:10:29.000 I don't look at George Bush and go, rah, rah, I'm on a football team.

00:10:32.000 I've got that mentality.

00:10:33.000 Whatever the team does, I'm for it.

00:10:35.000 I'm going to mindlessly wave a pennant in the air and paint my face up red, white, and blue and wear an elephant mask.

00:10:42.000 I look at Bush and go, he spent more money than all presidents before him combined.

00:10:48.000 He is ballooning every so-called liberal government agency ever heard of.

00:10:53.000 In fact, if Democrats really like what Democrats have done in the past, they should love George Bush.

00:11:00.000 George Bush has signed back on to United Nations treaties to regulate much of the federal and state governments operations.

00:11:08.000 George Bush has just done countless things that are the complete opposite from what you would call classical conservatism.

00:11:19.000 We don't have a dog in the fight as per political parties.

00:11:25.000 I'm simply trying to defend our liberties that have made America so great.

00:11:29.000 I mean, we're only 4%.

00:11:30.000 4% out of 100%.

00:11:30.000 4%, not even one half of a decimal.

00:11:32.000 Not even one half of 10%.

00:11:32.000 100%, 4%, not even one half of a decimal, not even one half of 10%.

00:11:40.000 We are 4% of the world's population.

00:11:44.000 96% of the people of the world are not Americans.

00:11:49.000 Why has America been so different?

00:11:52.000 Why have we had half the world's wealth?

00:11:55.000 There's a lot of reasons, and we haven't been perfect, and we've had corruption and problems, but there was still limited freedom, a freedom greater than any other country or people has ever enjoyed in the history of the world, and it was because people fought for every millimeter of liberty we have.

00:12:14.000 Americans died because they were very jealous of their liberties. 0.98

00:12:19.000 Because our forefathers came here through adversity, whether you're Hispanic, black, white, it doesn't matter.

00:12:25.000 We all share that.

00:12:26.000 We were the rebels, the criminals, the adventurers, the slaves, the sharecroppers, the indentured servants.

00:12:33.000 We are.

00:12:34.000 It's just like the Australians are very hardy. 1.00

00:12:36.000 They come from the same type of stock.

00:12:39.000 And we built this country because there was some freedom and low taxation.

00:12:45.000 There wasn't regulation and the guild control systems and the apprentice control systems and the mercantile economic systems that were designed by royalty and their minions to keep new money and new wealth from forming because that wasn't As powerful a force it was here to a certain extent.

00:13:06.000 It allowed an engine of wealth, a dynamism, of amazing creativity and inventiveness to flourish.

00:13:16.000 And I'm trying to defend that.

00:13:17.000 So please, put on your thinking caps.

00:13:19.000 Don't believe a word I say.

00:13:21.000 Research what I claim.

00:13:23.000 Get past your Republican and Democratic labels.

00:13:27.000 And let's come together as populists, as Americans, and re-learn, re-discover what Americana truly is and the promise it offers all of us.

00:13:38.000 Now, I've got all this news about government-sponsored propaganda.

00:13:42.000 I mean, just outright written by government psychiatrists and sociologists and people with three degrees in advertising.

00:13:49.000 I mean, they've got armies of tens of thousands of them openly working to lie to you, to dumb you down, to confuse you, to give you false political paradigms.

00:13:57.000 To give you false roadmaps.

00:13:59.000 That's what they do.

00:14:00.000 They give you these garbage roadmaps where people try to follow these false political terms and now they've changed the English language to such an extent we can't even communicate with each other.

00:14:13.000 And I tell you, the more you learn about politics and geopolitical systems and tyranny and tyrants and despots When you then read 1984, you realize what a genius George Orwell was, because he speaks so much about the mangling of the language, the changing of it, the reducing of the language to a smaller and smaller group of words that are used.

00:14:35.000 That is so central here!

00:14:37.000 So again, you've got to throw out all the basic terms you've been given because those terms weren't used until 105 years ago when the big banks openly came in and paid off the colleges and the high schools and the technical schools to give you this false paradigm.

00:14:55.000 And their memos, their books, their publications are all public.

00:14:58.000 They all brag about it.

00:14:59.000 They call us slaves.

00:15:00.000 And folks, I'm mad about this.

00:15:02.000 I'm mad about this and I want you to wake up to their scam.

00:15:05.000 I want you to find out what's happening.

00:15:07.000 Alright.

00:15:08.000 Before I go any further, there are lies every day that I read about.

00:15:12.000 Admitted, falsified data by governments.

00:15:16.000 And I don't know how we catch the governments knowingly, premeditatedly, from the highest levels Lying to us on purpose and then we just trust them over and over again.

00:15:31.000 I was over in the United Kingdom just a few days after a young man was murdered.

00:15:40.000 And we all heard that he had bombs around him, wires all over him, a huge padded coat, he ran from police, jumped the turnstiles, ran into one of the trains, and then was going to blow himself up so they shot him twice in the head.

00:15:52.000 Then we heard it was four times, then eight times, then twelve times, and last time we heard fourteen times.

00:15:57.000 And then now they've quietly admitted, it's been in the news, but back of the paper, not big headlines, that he walked, he was wearing a blue jean shirt, It wasn't even a jacket.

00:16:06.000 It was 60 degrees that morning.

00:16:08.000 At the time he was killed, even colder when he left his house.

00:16:11.000 And they came in and sat on him.

00:16:13.000 He didn't resist.

00:16:15.000 They sat on him.

00:16:16.000 He seemed to know them.

00:16:17.000 And they shot him at point-blank range 14 times, emptying the clip into his head.

00:16:23.000 Then they lied about it and falsified the reports.

00:16:26.000 Now we know they falsified the reports.

00:16:28.000 We've known that for months because the eyewitnesses and other police have gone public and said it's all a lie.

00:16:32.000 Well, now we have the reports.

00:16:34.000 We have the Scotland Yard's own report and we have the Police Complaints Commission, IPCC's report.

00:16:42.000 And again, there are literally, folks, I have a stack of such news reports here today with the police manufacturing evidence in New York, Houston, Dallas, Texas.

00:16:54.000 Every day I have these.

00:16:55.000 I mean, this is just standard operating procedure.

00:16:57.000 It isn't that I dislike police.

00:16:59.000 I'm upset that it's gotten to this point where it is institutionalized.

00:17:04.000 The question is, though, why were Special Branch Paramilitary Police dispatched to kill him?

00:17:09.000 They followed him from his home, there, and then murdered him.

00:17:12.000 It isn't because they thought he was a terrorist, folks.

00:17:16.000 They normally use Latin Americans to double as Muslims in some of these MI6, Mossad, Shin Bet, CIA ops. 0.78

00:17:23.000 I believe he was somebody who saw too much.

00:17:26.000 And that's what all the evidence shows.

00:17:28.000 The bombs were clearly under the trains.

00:17:29.000 We have police saying that.

00:17:31.000 Witnesses saying that.

00:17:32.000 I mean, I'm making a whole film about it.

00:17:34.000 So, again, I...

00:17:38.000 hesitate even talking about the government being behind the london bombings because i could talk for three hours about it not even cover all the hard core evidence i mean i've had former number one f_b_i_ terrorism expert john loftus on this show Number one at FBI!

00:17:55.000 Has a show on ABC Radio!

00:17:57.000 To say, yes, a SWAT, the lead bomber, was MI6 and the government clearly wasn't involved behind it!

00:18:03.000 I mean, that's John Loftus!

00:18:06.000 That's one piece of hundreds!

00:18:07.000 I mean, I'm making a whole film about it right now!

00:18:09.000 Well, that's not accurate.

00:18:11.000 I'm making a part of the film, about 30 minutes of a two-hour film, is about the London bombings themselves, and a few minutes on Menendez, de Menendez, But the point here is that they lied about this premeditatedly day one.

00:18:25.000 And I went to the tube station.

00:18:26.000 I went to the place where he was killed.

00:18:28.000 I went to the turnstiles where he was murdered.

00:18:31.000 That's as far as you go.

00:18:33.000 The train obviously is moving.

00:18:34.000 It wasn't there.

00:18:35.000 But I went to the very spot where the train was where he was murdered.

00:18:39.000 And I walked outside and talked to a bunch of the locals.

00:18:41.000 When we come back I want to play a clip of them.

00:18:43.000 This has never before been heard.

00:18:48.000 A small segment from the film that won't be released for months and months because it's going to be a dandy.

00:18:52.000 I'm putting a lot of time into it.

00:18:54.000 And she just regurgitates the entire government line and this was about a week and a half after he'd been murdered.

00:19:01.000 It was already in the news that that was all lies.

00:19:04.000 She doesn't care, folks. 0.99

00:19:05.000 She's going to regurgitate what's comfortable to her because she doesn't want to imagine that statistically and historically Governments are what you must fear the most.

00:19:16.000 They're big, they're organized, they're unbridled.

00:19:20.000 There's no one there to hold them back unless the people stand up and stand up early.

00:19:25.000 Things always go bad if you don't.

00:19:28.000 So I want to play this clip of her.

00:19:30.000 Well first it's us in studio and I have the Watsons over here in the U.S.

00:19:33.000 talking about it.

00:19:33.000 Then we cut to the video.

00:19:36.000 I want to play what she has to say, just amazing doublethink as well, Orwellian doublethink involved here, and then read some of this article.

00:19:44.000 Then I'll get into a bunch of news about government-sponsored propaganda, overseas and here domestically, and the latest situations with Iran.

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00:23:56.000 The show, police fake tube death logs.

00:24:04.000 Now, another branch of the Myriad Police Agencies in London has looked at the logs and talked to the police, and yeah, they were told to falsify them.

00:24:12.000 No kidding!

00:24:12.000 You went and sat on a guy and shot him 14 times in the head, and the people doing it should go to prison, but again, in a police state, that doesn't happen.

00:24:22.000 So, let's cut to a little section.

00:24:26.000 From my new documentary I'm working on, actually a lot of this will actually be cut out of the film itself, but just some raw footage from the film where we're talking to this lady right outside where DeMendez was killed at the fruit stand and what she had to say.

00:24:41.000 But first we comment in studio, this is some video from in studio inside the radio studio, and Paul Watson and Steve Watson were here in the US just a few months ago.

00:24:52.000 Go ahead and roll it.

00:24:53.000 What about the woman that said I'm for torture, it keeps us safe.

00:24:59.000 Well, no, she said, um... Take my freedom for my liberty, yeah.

00:25:02.000 Yeah, she said she wanted to give up liberty for freedom, which is just completely contradictory.

00:25:09.000 Well, set that up for people.

00:25:10.000 We're right outside the playscore now.

00:25:11.000 It turns out they shot him, what, 14 times?

00:25:14.000 Tell folks about that.

00:25:15.000 Yeah, well, we went to Stockwell Tube Station where they shot the Brazilian man.

00:25:20.000 I think it was, how many times was it?

00:25:21.000 Eight?

00:25:22.000 They shot him eight times.

00:25:23.000 The number grew even more after that.

00:25:24.000 It's more.

00:25:26.000 Well, it's enough anyway.

00:25:28.000 And, yeah, we basically noticed this woman who was working on the fruit stall. 1.00

00:25:32.000 She'd been interviewed on the BBC.

00:25:34.000 I'd seen her on there, so we went over to interview her.

00:25:37.000 We were talking to her, and Alex asked her if she would sacrifice liberty for security.

00:25:43.000 And she came back with, yes, I'll sacrifice liberty for freedom.

00:25:47.000 Liberty and freedom are the same thing.

00:25:49.000 We then asked her again to clarify, just in case she made a mistake, and she said the same thing again.

00:25:54.000 She was willing to give up liberty for freedom.

00:25:57.000 Which is, really, it's a direct double thing, because the two things mean the same thing.

00:26:02.000 What did you witness with the unfortunate Brazilian man that died?

00:26:06.000 All we saw was the police running into the station with guns.

00:26:10.000 That's all we saw.

00:26:11.000 We didn't see anything else at all.

00:26:12.000 And then, a couple of seconds after that, we were vacated down to South Lamba Pro.

00:26:17.000 That was all we saw.

00:26:19.000 We didn't see anything else.

00:26:20.000 Are you sad for him and his family that he's dead?

00:26:22.000 dead?

00:26:22.000 Oh yeah, but at the end of the day he should have stopped and surrendered, shouldn't he?

00:26:25.000 If it had happened in his own country he would have been shot down as well.

00:26:28.000 So, with all that's gone on, the police were only doing what they thought was best, as far as I'm concerned.

00:26:33.000 Why do you think he ran?

00:26:35.000 Well, because his visa had run out, obviously, but you're not going to have armed police running after him just because his visa's run out, is he?

00:26:41.000 So, the police were protecting, you know, the people travelling on the tube, so I don't see any wrong in what the police have done this morning.

00:26:47.000 No, I understand you're feeling that.

00:26:48.000 Why do you think they shot him eight times in the head?

00:26:50.000 I don't know.

00:26:50.000 It's a lot of times to shoot him.

00:26:51.000 It is a lot of times to shoot him, but... How many times did you hear that they shot him? 0.79

00:26:55.000 Five at first.

00:26:57.000 Five, and then... No, three first, then five, then it went up to eight.

00:27:00.000 So...

00:27:02.000 And I, the police admit they tackled him in this show.

00:27:05.000 Well they told him to surrender, didn't they?

00:27:06.000 They told him to stop, and he didn't.

00:27:08.000 He carried on running, so... You know.

00:27:11.000 What else could they have done, as far as I'm concerned?

00:27:16.000 007, huh?

00:27:16.000 007.

00:27:16.000 Licence to kill.

00:27:18.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:27:19.000 I still believe that there should be a shoot to kill policy.

00:27:21.000 I still believe.

00:27:23.000 Personally.

00:27:24.000 But that's my views, you know.

00:27:26.000 I think people should give up their liberty for freedom.

00:27:31.000 I think people should give up their liberty for freedom.

00:27:33.000 And of course, we doubled that last statement again.

00:27:37.000 And in the film, we have another clip where she said it a second time.

00:27:41.000 But of course, even a week and a half after it was admitted he wasn't running, he wasn't wearing a jacket.

00:27:48.000 I just wasn't going to argue with her.

00:27:50.000 So there it was already in the newspapers that none of it was true, but it was in the back of the paper.

00:27:54.000 Always the government's lies, or the corporations that control the government's lies, are front and center.

00:27:59.000 And then it almost always turns out to be totally false.

00:28:03.000 But it's not just like the government screwing up, they're doing it by design.

00:28:08.000 And people think you give up liberty, you get security.

00:28:11.000 You never get that.

00:28:12.000 You get tyranny, you get enslaved.

00:28:14.000 I mean, there is no security in having an all-powerful, black ski mask, black uniform wearing, secret police, overarching government.

00:28:24.000 And that's exactly what's being set up in this country.

00:28:27.000 I mean, every day Bush gives a press conference or one of his surrogates comes out Like Press Secretary Scott McClellan, and says the President is the law.

00:28:36.000 He can ignore anything Congress does.

00:28:38.000 He can torture whoever he wants. 0.98

00:28:40.000 They can torture children.

00:28:42.000 They can do anything because he's the President.

00:28:45.000 He has war powers.

00:28:46.000 War powers do not do that. 0.95

00:28:49.000 And for people out there who are in such denial, you see, now you're having a choice.

00:28:53.000 The Marshall Law is being announced.

00:28:55.000 They're telling you, hey, we can do whatever we want, and if there's another attack, we're going to rule you.

00:29:01.000 And now people get up on talk radio and TV and Arnold Spector gets up on TV and says, well, the President may have those powers.

00:29:09.000 Okay, does the President have the power to, say, chop children's heads off on the White House lawn and play polo with their heads?

00:29:19.000 No!

00:29:20.000 Does Bush have the power to ship cocaine in and snort it?

00:29:24.000 No! 0.99

00:29:25.000 Does he have the power to go around murdering women dressed up like a clown? 0.99

00:29:28.000 No! 0.96

00:29:29.000 Then he doesn't have the power to order people's children to be tortured in front of him.

00:29:34.000 My goodness, what has happened to us?

00:29:38.000 They're warping our entire social fabric.

00:29:41.000 They're training us how to take part in mass evil.

00:29:46.000 We're on the march.

00:29:48.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:32:54.000 All right, Tony, Alan, Bob, Eddie, Maggie.

00:33:15.000 I've got calls from Arkansas, United Kingdom, Connecticut, Texas, you name it.

00:33:20.000 We're going to go to everybody here in about five minutes or so.

00:33:25.000 Last week, I played this clip off of MSNBC television with the Oberman Report countdown Where they had General Michael Hayden on, and I heard the rebroadcast this weekend and I wasn't satisfied with my performance covering all the facets of this.

00:33:43.000 They have the head of the NSA, he was the head until about six months ago, now he's the head of another federal department.

00:33:50.000 I've since watched online much of his speech, and he brags about how wonderful the head of all intelligence is.

00:33:58.000 By the way, he's a former Death Squad mastermind.

00:34:01.000 And it's John Negroponte.

00:34:03.000 Very, very scary stuff.

00:34:05.000 And then he says, believe me, the NSA knows the Fourth Amendment knows the law.

00:34:10.000 Well, it's been all over the news that the NSA broke federal law every time they spied on U.S.

00:34:16.000 citizens without a warrant, without going to the FISA Court.

00:34:19.000 That's admitted, and Bush has said he doesn't have to follow that law.

00:34:24.000 But no, this version of lying is just that, no, no, no, we're allowed to because the Fourth Amendment says nothing about probable cause.

00:34:34.000 Well, you're right.

00:34:34.000 It says a lot more than just probable cause.

00:34:37.000 You don't just need probable cause.

00:34:38.000 The probable cause is based on an oath or affirmation, a sworn testimony of what it is illegally you're doing and exactly where it is and what the police specifically are looking for.

00:34:50.000 They can only look for that.

00:34:52.000 They can't be on a fishing expedition.

00:34:55.000 And I read the Fourth Amendment last week, but I think because it's such a secret nowadays what the Bill of Rights says, I'll read it again.

00:35:03.000 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable search and seizures shall not be violated and no warrant shall be issued but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

00:35:22.000 Things to be seen.

00:35:23.000 So, that's how the Bill of Rights works.

00:35:25.000 It will state the name and then it will give you the definition.

00:35:32.000 So they're telling you that the people are to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects.

00:35:39.000 That means your car.

00:35:41.000 That means your person walking down the street.

00:35:43.000 You have a Fourth Amendment and it says against unreasonable searches and seizures.

00:35:47.000 Then it tells you what a reasonable one is.

00:35:52.000 It says, no warrant shall be issued but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation.

00:35:58.000 You get sworn testimony here.

00:35:59.000 And I sped past this last week, but let me cover it calmly.

00:36:05.000 These confidential informants, where they're not even in the courtroom, and you go to jail for life, and you find out it was some crackhead that sent you down the river.

00:36:12.000 And they have hired liars with a rap sheet 15 feet thick.

00:36:17.000 Literally, in some cases.

00:36:19.000 Well, according to the Constitutional Bill of Rights, that is totally illegal!

00:36:23.000 And it says in here, you do this, you go to prison.

00:36:25.000 By the way, folks, there's only ten of them. 0.70

00:36:26.000 You violate these, I mean, you can be executed as a traitor.

00:36:31.000 I mean, these are the big laws.

00:36:32.000 These are above the local policies of the local drug-dealing police chief in your town.

00:36:40.000 So it just, it just makes my head spin.

00:36:43.000 But on top of it, the NSA knows, knows that it's a violation of federal law.

00:36:51.000 Every time they spy on you, then they try this line of, well, here's their analogy.

00:36:57.000 If your wife's going into labor and about to have a baby, you don't call the judge first to ask if it's okay if you speed to the hospital.

00:37:04.000 You speed to the hospital.

00:37:06.000 Well, I'm against the FISA court to begin with.

00:37:09.000 The FISA court that the government ignored, that elements of the government ignored, Simply said that within a month you have to go back to them to get whatever spying you did certified and those were blank check warrants where every time they signed off on it and this was retroactively by the way in hindsight they could spy on tens of thousands of people

00:37:31.000 So what the government does is they take the least little example of it that sounds the most reasonable, they have a national debate about it, have these fake polls, where half the people are for it, then they start the process of conditioning you.

00:37:44.000 And again, there are whole college courses taught on this, this is public, this is a shake-and-bake operation.

00:37:49.000 I mean, here's another example.

00:37:51.000 AP, U.S.

00:37:52.000 Army has seized wives of insurgents in Iraq to force them to talk.

00:37:56.000 And then it says, in two cases, they grab the woman and they say, if you don't turn yourself in, we're going to do something to your wife and baby.

00:38:02.000 And they deny the baby's milk and stuff like that.

00:38:05.000 Now, the Army's actual reports say it's been done thousands of times and there are huge prisons filled with women. 1.00

00:38:11.000 They'll come into towns and grab all the women until all the men down to age 11 come and turn themselves in. 0.87

00:38:16.000 That has been in hundreds of mainstream news articles overseas, in Europe, even a few here, government reports here, but by the time it hits our nightly news, oh, they grabbed two women.

00:38:26.000 It's thousands, thousands, sometimes whole towns are grabbed in a single day of thousands of people.

00:38:33.000 But by the time we hear about it, it's two people they did it to.

00:38:37.000 I'll go to your calls in a minute.

00:38:40.000 I'm trying to describe for people, because this is what I do.

00:38:43.000 I study this.

00:38:44.000 I look at propaganda.

00:38:45.000 I understand how it works.

00:38:46.000 And we counter it with the ultimate weapon.

00:38:48.000 It's called the truth.

00:38:49.000 But still, you have to go verify the truth.

00:38:51.000 I want you to go research the claims I'm making.

00:38:53.000 I don't want you to believe what I just said about the Fourth Amendment.

00:38:56.000 You see, the head of the NSA, well he's now in a position even above that, but the former head of the NSA gets up there and they've got him all over the news and all over TV From Alberto Gonzalez, who says Bush is above the law, to John Yoo, who says the same thing, to, you know, Bush's... Tommy Franks gets up on TV over and over again and announces, I'm not with the government anymore, I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, but we need martial law, we need to invade Iran, and I love George Bush.

00:39:23.000 $400,000 paid to go lie, and then up front say he's not being paid to say this, and then it turns out he is.

00:39:29.000 I mean, do you realize, folks, that isn't some liberal or conservative bias.

00:39:33.000 That is mechanized, scientifically focused, high-tech tyranny.

00:39:39.000 I mean, that should make everybody get chills up and down their spines.

00:39:43.000 By the way, I know a lot of Republicans just love hearing Bush talk about martial law and how he's a dictator and how he has unlimited power.

00:39:49.000 What about when Hillary's president? 0.55

00:39:51.000 Are you going to like it then?

00:39:55.000 Well, I'll actually support her now.

00:39:56.000 She's for the war on terror. 0.84

00:39:58.000 I've heard them. 0.95

00:39:59.000 They're sick. 0.95

00:40:02.000 So there's so many lies to what this general says when he talks about spying. 0.96

00:40:08.000 Oh, believe me, he says, believe me, we know what the law is, and he's counting on you to not go read the Fourth Amendment.

00:40:14.000 He's counting on you to not go read the federal laws on top of the Fourth Amendment.

00:40:20.000 And, you know, if the government can kind of helter-skelter whenever it wants to, tell, mail, sometimes will, sometimes don't, obey laws, then what does that say to you when you break a law?

00:40:35.000 I mean, this is serious business, folks.

00:40:35.000 You see?

00:40:38.000 So, one more time, I want to play this clip from last Monday.

00:40:42.000 We, of course, aired it on Friday, by the time we got the video clip of it, of the NSA General, this is up on PrisonPlanet.com if you want to see it, just lying to people.

00:40:52.000 Lying!

00:40:53.000 And, of course, it turns out memos from his very office back in 03-04 were saying, hey, this is illegal, we've got to cover it up.

00:41:00.000 So we know he's premeditatedly, on TV, lying to you, engaging in PSYOPs.

00:41:06.000 Go ahead and roll it.

00:41:07.000 My understanding is that the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American's right against unlawful searches and seizures.

00:41:24.000 Actually, the Fourth Amendment actually It protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure.

00:41:31.000 But the measure is probable cause, I believe.

00:41:31.000 That's what it says.

00:41:34.000 The amendment says unreasonable search and seizure.

00:41:37.000 But does it not say probable... No.

00:41:38.000 The amendment says unreasonable search and seizure.

00:41:41.000 The legal standard is probable cause.

00:41:44.000 Just to be very clear, and believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the fourth.

00:41:53.000 And it is a reasonable standard in the fourth amendment.

00:41:57.000 To quote the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States in its entirety, the one the General and the NSA folks are so familiar with and know is about reasonableness and not about probable cause, quote,

00:42:08.000 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, no warrant shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

00:42:29.000 Well, maybe they have a different constitution over there at the NSA.

00:42:33.000 Now ask yourselves, how many warrants are truly proper?

00:42:37.000 Almost none.

00:42:38.000 But it isn't enough for the Bush Administration, and the Democrats lock, stock and barrel are agreeing with it, setting this precedent, that not even the FISA or other special courts blank checks.

00:42:51.000 They're actual rubber stamps, retroactively.

00:42:53.000 They don't just hand them a rubber stamp to spy on 10,000 of whoever you want to domestically.

00:42:59.000 And then you run out and do it.

00:43:01.000 No, no, no.

00:43:01.000 You can come to them a month later and they give you a big blank check.

00:43:04.000 That's not even enough.

00:43:06.000 They're just, we'll do whatever we want, whenever we want to keep you safe from Al-Cieda. 1.00

00:43:14.000 So I've covered that, but meanwhile, we talk about government propaganda.

00:43:18.000 Let me just mention this and we'll go to the calls.

00:43:21.000 Bush, no doubt NSA surveillance is legal.

00:43:25.000 And again, he tells us that it's not illegal, and that it's perfectly fine, and so go back to sleep, everything's wonderful.

00:43:32.000 And that's because according to him, there is no law that he's governed by.

00:43:36.000 And then we have this article here, poll indicates mixed views on surveillance, United Press International.

00:43:41.000 They had a big New York Times, CBS poll, and later I'll cover this, but it's called a push poll.

00:43:46.000 If it'll keep you safe, can the government spy on terrorists?

00:43:50.000 Well, of course they can spy on terrorists.

00:43:52.000 Then they get, uh, you know, around half the people saying that they would.

00:43:59.000 But then when they asked him in the poll, what if it's spinally American people, he said, no.

00:44:04.000 Well, that's what this is.

00:44:05.000 And again, we have this idea that it's this big, loving, sweet government.

00:44:08.000 No, all it is is private corporations that have bought off different agencies and different groups and agencies that are using the government as their own tool to extract our tax dollars through corporate welfare into their coffers.

00:44:20.000 And they know we're waking up to the gravy train, so they're putting in a control grid because they know we're going to revolt when they take our pensions.

00:44:26.000 They've actually said that!

00:44:28.000 That's what this whole police state's for, boys and girls.

00:44:31.000 It is it for some guy in a turbot.

00:44:33.000 Who, by the way, is on government payroll every time we check it out.

00:44:36.000 I mean, I'm drowning in evidence of these terrorists being working for Western governments.

00:44:41.000 Red-handed, it's public, declassified, admit it.

00:44:43.000 Again, none of this is my opinion.

00:44:45.000 So, poll indicates mixed views on surveillance.

00:44:47.000 Well, of course.

00:44:48.000 And then I have this really scary article Out of the BBC, U.S.

00:44:54.000 plans to fight the net revealed, and it's already been going on.

00:44:58.000 They have cadres, they have agency groups that are doing it, and now they want to roll it out public and radically expand it, which is admitted in here since 2003.

00:45:06.000 And it says, domestic propaganda, planting fake news stories, and it gets into all these reporters that are paid off.

00:45:17.000 Again, reporters paid off to lie to you!

00:45:22.000 And then you read this BBC article that's reporting on it like it's, eh, no big deal.

00:45:26.000 So we'll, uh, we'll get into that.

00:45:29.000 I mean, it's just, it's amazing the different things that are going on.

00:45:33.000 Tony in Arkansas, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:45:37.000 Speak with you.

00:45:38.000 Go ahead.

00:45:38.000 Nice to speak to you.

00:45:39.000 I just wanted to figure out some kind of importance that's happening in the next few days, kind of along the lines of Codex Magic and what Tex Mars talks about.

00:45:46.000 When you follow the New World Order group, if you pay attention, you notice they tend to hit certain significant occult days.

00:45:52.000 And one is coming up February 1st through the 2nd, which is in bulk.

00:45:56.000 And there's other times they've used that date.

00:45:59.000 But specifically, there's Terror Drills going to be going off in Charlotte.

00:46:03.000 On those dates and other websites reporting some down in Houston that there have been police chiefs coming forward saying they've been testing it near Texas City, Texas and other things.

00:46:13.000 Well, it's not police chiefs coming forward, it's been in the Houston Chronicle that they're having nuke attack drills in Houston but that doesn't mean that there's going to be a nuke going off.

00:46:22.000 Certainly, but I think that when we parallel again what happened in Charlotte, you going back to when you were on George Nuri's program and Kevin P. Burns Uh, his firing and dismissal and information being leaked that they were going to go live with that terrorist attack.

00:46:35.000 By the way, a lot of that has been confirmed now.

00:46:37.000 Okay, and that's what I agree, and that's what concerns me because, uh, because of Kevin P. Burns and you getting... Not that there was going to be a nuke go off, but that Burns wasn't on the line.

00:46:47.000 We've confirmed that.

00:46:48.000 Okay.

00:46:48.000 Oh, really?

00:46:49.000 Is he, do you know, have you heard anything of his, of his health?

00:46:51.000 No, we've talked to people that have talked to him.

00:46:53.000 I've talked to people in government from multiple angles and we've gotten the same thing.

00:46:56.000 Okay.

00:46:57.000 But this drill coming up specifically, you put it up on your show and your website, and I've been trying to call as many programs as I can.

00:47:04.000 I just think it's vital that we get... Well, I didn't do it this time with the new drill.

00:47:08.000 Are you saying I did this time?

00:47:10.000 Yeah, I saw it up on your website.

00:47:11.000 One of them, WorldNetDaily, a story linked to the toilet.

00:47:14.000 Yeah, we linked to the story about it, yes.

00:47:16.000 And I've been trying to get through to George and Mary every night because I think you guys may have averted, in fact I'll just give my gut feeling, I believe you guys averted a terror attack by going on this program days before it happened and getting it out to 16, 20 million people plus what you do on your program and other programs.

00:47:31.000 And I've tried to call every night.

00:47:33.000 I can't hear you.

00:47:34.000 Tony, let me comment on this because it's a big deal because you called in about it.

00:47:38.000 You know, you heard those shows, you read the news articles, imagine the average person.

00:47:44.000 All they hear is about nuke drills in Charlotte, North Carolina, and nuke drills in Detroit for the Super Bowl, and nuke drills in Houston.

00:47:53.000 And they're going, what are you talking about?

00:47:55.000 So we owe it to the listeners.

00:47:56.000 A lot of times what happens is we kind of, myself and the listeners, I mean I'm very guilty of this myself, we kind of have our own little private discussions here on air, and we need to fill people in on that.

00:48:06.000 Governments, over and over again, with the 7-7 bombings in London, they were running an exact drill of the exact same targets.

00:48:15.000 Being hit at the exact same time, and even with a 10-year mean, using an insurance-style actuary computer simulation, the calculation has 48 zeros on it.

00:48:28.000 I can't even pronounce the number.

00:48:30.000 It was one chance in basically infinity that that would happen.

00:48:34.000 On 9-11, the government was running drills of the exact same targets being hit at the exact same times, and that's now been declassified.

00:48:42.000 I covered it, what, two years before It was even in USA Today.

00:48:47.000 That really blew people away, because I've gotten that from Pentagon sources.

00:48:51.000 That's how they got the rest of NORAD to stand down, is one element of the government says it's a drill, everybody stands down and then it really happens.

00:48:58.000 So when now there are drills, say in Charlotte, and we see certain key things happening, we just simply said, with the firing of the general who was over that days before, and we got some intel that something could happen, we said we need to look at this.

00:49:14.000 Now, other people are running around saying that it could be, you know, the Super Bowl.

00:49:20.000 And the government's hyping it.

00:49:21.000 I mean, you know, big martial law production.

00:49:23.000 Same thing with the World Cup coming up in Europe.

00:49:26.000 Over in England and Germany, that terrorists could strike, and only the men in black uniforms searching everyone, and hover blimps flying around, and foreign... We're going to have foreign German soldiers on the streets of London. 0.93

00:49:38.000 What are German soldiers needed for?

00:49:40.000 As if Britain, with more police and military per capita than any other country in the world, and more cameras and surveillance than any other country in the world per capita, why would they need German troops? 0.53

00:49:49.000 Why do we need Mexican and Dutch and British in New Orleans? 1.00

00:49:52.000 They've signed the treaties.

00:49:53.000 They're foreign troops.

00:49:54.000 They really are planning to use them.

00:49:56.000 I've interviewed the emergency manager from Kingsville, Texas, Thomas Sanchez, seven, eight years ago, when he was in secret military briefings about plans to take over South Texas using Delta Force.

00:50:06.000 I mean, you know, this has been going on, this creeping takeover.

00:50:11.000 For a long, long time.

00:50:12.000 So, if we get caught up in constantly thinking there's about to be a nuke go off, the government uses that as fear to get us to go along with their aims.

00:50:21.000 But at the same time, we should look at all these drills and realize that they could be used as a cover, as they have been in the past.

00:50:31.000 Listen, a nuke goes off, life as we know it ends in this country.

00:50:35.000 The real police state starts.

00:50:37.000 Unless we have an awakening Who really has a motive to sacrifice part of a U.S.

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00:54:05.000 It came out several years ago, it was declassified, it admitted that the White House has been issuing fake terror alerts for political aims.

00:54:14.000 Just type in to Google or to whatever, Yahoo, just type in.

00:54:20.000 White House issues fake terror alerts.

00:54:22.000 And you'll get, not just PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com, you'll get it.

00:54:26.000 ABC News, you'll get Ari Fleischer, back when he was Press Secretary, having to admit it when reporters brought it up.

00:54:34.000 I mean, every time they got in trouble about, oh, tens of billions being given to Enron, or billions being given in no-bid contracts to Halliburton.

00:54:43.000 I like to say Halliburton, I know it's Halliburton.

00:54:46.000 It's kind of a joke, folks.

00:54:48.000 And then, oh, suddenly the terrorists are about to strike!

00:54:50.000 It's an unconfirmed, unsubstantiated report, but we've locked down several major cities and are searching everyone.

00:54:56.000 Just get used to it.

00:54:58.000 Tyranny is about private individuals seizing control of government for their own aims.

00:55:03.000 Why do you think the Chinese generals, and why do you think the Mao's of the world, and the Stalins, and the Hitlers wanted control?

00:55:11.000 Because they got to own the companies, run the companies.

00:55:14.000 They got to go from being people who were paupers to being trillionaires.

00:55:19.000 Yes, the richest people in the world's history have not been people like Bill Gates.

00:55:22.000 It's been people like Adolf Hitler. 0.83

00:55:24.000 I mean, that guy owned the country.

00:55:26.000 That's what tyranny is all about, the final equation, just the raw exercise of power.

00:55:32.000 And it's happening again.

00:55:33.000 Alan, Bob, Maggie, others, we're about to go to your calls.

00:55:35.000 Let's go to Eddie in England right now.

00:55:37.000 Eddie, you're on the air.

00:55:38.000 Go ahead.

00:55:38.000 Hello, Mike.

00:55:40.000 Hi.

00:55:41.000 Regarding Menendez, who I always get is... DeMendez.

00:55:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:51.000 He was shot seven times in the head as far as I can find out.

00:55:56.000 And Sir Ian Blair, that's the head of the Metropolitan Police... They got up to eight, then they said fourteen shots were fired, and then now some reports they bring it back down to twelve, but I have articles that say fourteen times.

00:56:08.000 Well, what you've got is probably correct.

00:56:12.000 When I wrote to the Scotland Yard and several in the Home Office and I asked if the military had been involved in this shooting, I was thinking of the SAS, they said no.

00:56:29.000 Under no circumstances were the military involved.

00:56:33.000 Now what they did after the bombing is they assigned military teams to the police department in police uniform in the anti-terror squad.

00:56:41.000 Yeah, well, it was because one of my family had previously been in the SAS.

00:56:48.000 I knew from what he told me that that shooting in the head is an execution military style.

00:56:56.000 It's not what the police do.

00:56:59.000 They even Special Branch would not execute people like that.

00:57:07.000 That is a military execution.

00:57:10.000 Well it is, Eddie, but the point is, now it's public that they falsify the reports, he didn't run, he wasn't even wearing a jacket, he was wearing a blue jean shirt, it was 60 degrees, they just came up to him, they sat on him and killed him, and they knew the whole time, and why did they kill him?

00:57:26.000 That's the question.

00:57:28.000 Besides that, when they followed him from that house, That he was supposedly, um, ensconced in.

00:57:38.000 They followed him, and they let him get on a bus.

00:57:41.000 Now, if he was a terrorist, terrorists blow up buses in London, as you well know.

00:57:47.000 So why did they sit behind him, on, well, two seats back, while he sat there in front of them, let him get off that bus, let him get onto the street, let him go into the underground, And then shoot him on an underground... I know, there are just over 50 points.

00:58:08.000 I'm making a film about it, that's why I know how many points there are.

00:58:10.000 I mean, we've got one site on Prison Planet that's got hundreds of points on it, but there's 50 plus big points.

00:58:17.000 Again, it's just one more example of just total lies.

00:58:20.000 But the lady on the street's like, I'm glad they killed him, he was running.

00:58:24.000 No he wasn't!

00:58:25.000 Thanks for the call, I appreciate the call from England, Eddie.

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00:58:43.000 Big Brother.

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00:58:58.000 You want answers?

00:58:59.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:00.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:05.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:11.000 Just an incredibly astute, intelligent, piercing intellect individual joining us.

00:59:17.000 Webster Griffin Tarbley, historian, investigative journalist, iconoclast.

00:59:25.000 I've got a lot of news about government-sponsored propaganda here domestically.

00:59:31.000 I don't think people realize the true scope.

00:59:33.000 It isn't just Armstrong-Williams, boys and girls.

00:59:36.000 It is massive.

00:59:38.000 And it goes to the heart of this society, going from a free society to a high-tech police state.

00:59:43.000 I mean, you better know, America's always bigger and better.

00:59:45.000 If we have a police state, it ain't gonna be pretty, and you can see it forming right now.

00:59:50.000 That's coming up.

00:59:51.000 Let's get a few of these great calls out of the way right now.

00:59:53.000 I've been holding patiently.

00:59:54.000 Allen in Connecticut.

00:59:56.000 Welcome, sir.

00:59:57.000 Hi, Alex.

00:59:58.000 How are you?

00:59:59.000 Good.

00:59:59.000 Thank you.

01:00:01.000 I had a question I wanted to ask you.

01:00:03.000 I just finished reading Webster Tarpey's book about 9-11.

01:00:06.000 Synthetic care.

01:00:08.000 Great book.

01:00:09.000 We carry it, by the way, now in the bookstore.

01:00:10.000 But go ahead.

01:00:11.000 I'm glad he's on the show today.

01:00:13.000 In the back, he was talking about Iran.

01:00:15.000 And I know you and George Norrie were getting into it the other, you know, last week.

01:00:19.000 And in it, he was saying how he asserts that there are quite a few generals now that really don't want to seek a war with Iran because of how much bigger it is in Iraq and how much more they have to lose.

01:00:31.000 Populations, what, four times?

01:00:32.000 Oh, it's insane.

01:00:34.000 And I was wondering, in your opinion, from what you've heard, do you feel that they're starting to develop this split inside the Pentagon and DOD with some of these generals starting to wake up about the New World Order?

01:00:46.000 You know what?

01:00:46.000 That is an absolutely wonderful question for Webster.

01:00:49.000 I have my answer, but I want you to be able to get his first.

01:00:52.000 I'm sure it'll be the same as mine, because we see the same data, but are very similar.

01:00:57.000 So I will bring that up.

01:00:58.000 In fact, I wrote that.

01:00:59.000 I ran split.

01:01:00.000 I have that as a note right here for Webster coming up.

01:01:03.000 Anything else?

01:01:05.000 Yeah, thank you about that.

01:01:06.000 And just one more thing, quick.

01:01:07.000 You know, my grandfather was in World War II.

01:01:10.000 And I always remember him telling me, you know, look, no matter how much we hated the Nazis and the Japanese, we had to know the laws of the Geneva Convention.

01:01:18.000 We had to be able to recite them and follow them or we would face the same fate as the Nazis. 0.94

01:01:23.000 He always told me it was very important.

01:01:26.000 You know, you didn't go around torturing people as much as you hated them. 0.98

01:01:29.000 Hey, Germans had a very low crime rate, they were good family people, they were some of the most straight-laced people in Europe, and they turned into pig demons. 1.00

01:01:36.000 And, I mean, that's what happens. 0.97

01:01:37.000 And look at us!

01:01:38.000 I mean, the Nazis didn't write memos saying we can torture kids in front of their parents, they just did it! 0.75

01:01:43.000 Only America in modern history! 0.96

01:01:45.000 I mean, Chief Counsel in the White House, John Yoo, is just a... I mean, it's off the charts!

01:01:51.000 And I'll tell you, it's kind of like A guy going into a fight with brass knuckles, you know, because he can't win, so he can kind of cheat.

01:01:59.000 You know, I don't think... I think America is no longer the superpower.

01:02:02.000 And we know that our economy is crumbled.

01:02:04.000 Our dollar's not worth anything.

01:02:06.000 We're about a week away from the total disaster, so we're taking cheap shots to try and get a little edge in.

01:02:13.000 And it's really not even working.

01:02:16.000 Interesting points.

01:02:16.000 I hear you.

01:02:17.000 I'll comment more on your great question after the break.

01:02:20.000 Let's go to Bob in Texas.

01:02:20.000 Thank you.

01:02:22.000 Bob, go ahead.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, are you there?

01:02:25.000 Yes, sir.

01:02:26.000 You're talking about the foreign troops on American soil in New Orleans.

01:02:30.000 Did you get that Newsweek photocopy I sent you?

01:02:33.000 Yes, I did.

01:02:33.000 It was a Chinese communist driver in the car from Newsweek with Bush.

01:02:39.000 It never ends.

01:02:40.000 All right.

01:02:41.000 Well, that was all.

01:02:42.000 It sounds like freedom.

01:02:43.000 I mean, what's wrong with communist Chinese? 0.94

01:02:45.000 I don't know, but I don't want to be a sushi dish, that's for sure.

01:02:51.000 Well, you know, it's in some of my films.

01:02:53.000 It's in films, take Police State 3 Total Enslavement or Road to Tyranny.

01:02:59.000 Our government signed the deals to quote, use Mexican and Canadian troops to quote, deal with American terrorists in America.

01:03:07.000 I mean, there are signed deals to bring in Czech and Dutch and British and Aussie and Czech Republic troops into America.

01:03:19.000 I mean, this is public.

01:03:20.000 This is public.

01:03:21.000 I've been to the urban warfare drills.

01:03:23.000 This isn't for Macedonia or Somalia.

01:03:28.000 But, I mean, foreign troops are here to help.

01:03:30.000 I mean, look at England.

01:03:31.000 They're going to have German troops at the World Cup.

01:03:34.000 Anything else?

01:03:35.000 That's all.

01:03:35.000 Take care.

01:03:36.000 Thank you, Bob.

01:03:37.000 Yeah, no matter how crazy it sounds, it's a reality.

01:03:42.000 These foreign troops will follow orders. 0.56

01:03:44.000 We'll be right back.

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01:06:59.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley, historian, iconoclast, investigative journalist, author, will be with us for the next hour and 52 minutes until this broadcast elapses.

01:07:10.000 It is the 30th day of January 2006.

01:07:13.000 Hard to believe that this first month of 2006 has almost elapsed.

01:07:20.000 Let me just read his bio, because he's just a great guy.

01:07:22.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley is the author and critic of what he calls the Anglo-American Oligarch Empire.

01:07:28.000 That's what they call themselves, by the way.

01:07:31.000 He maintains that 9-11 was a U.S.

01:07:32.000 government conspiracy.

01:07:34.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley is an activist and historian best known for his George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography, 1992, which has become an underground classic on the internet at tarpley.net.

01:07:45.000 T-A-R-P-L-E-Y. 1.00

01:07:47.000 Of course, You can buy copies there as well, but he put it out for free because he loves freedom.

01:07:54.000 He co-authored American Leviathan, Administrative Fascism Under the Bush Regime in 1991, which identified many tentacles and tendencies which have become prominent today.

01:08:02.000 And of course he exposes the Democrats as owned by the same oligarchs.

01:08:07.000 And it just goes on and on.

01:08:08.000 I mean, he's been writing for decades, as far back as 1978, about government-sponsored terrorism.

01:08:13.000 He helped expose what happened with Project Gladio long before it was declassified.

01:08:18.000 It's now declassified, admitted that our government carried out over 130 bombings, including blowing up school buses full of children all over Europe, the Bologna bombing of 1980 as well, to blame it on leftists.

01:08:30.000 And of course, against oligarchy, a collection of probably essays and speeches appeared on the internet in 1996.

01:08:35.000 His new book, which we are carrying, we just got 300 of them in.

01:08:39.000 You've got to get this book.

01:08:40.000 I read it months ago.

01:08:42.000 It's very, very impressive.

01:08:43.000 9-1-1 Synthetic Terror, made in the USA. 0.97

01:08:48.000 And it is such an important book for you to get available up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

01:08:54.000 You know, Webster, time always gets away from us.

01:08:57.000 We're both on the same page.

01:08:59.000 We just follow the facts and that's why it leads us to the exact same place.

01:09:04.000 We know that it is the Dutch and British and Germanic royal families that own the Rothschilds and others like chump change in their pockets. 0.82

01:09:12.000 It's publicly available knowledge.

01:09:13.000 They own the controlling interest in the defense contractors, biotech, big pharma, in the oil companies, in the shipping companies.

01:09:22.000 They are now owning the big toll roads and they're buying up our land.

01:09:27.000 And they are a bunch of Malthusian social Darwinists who openly say they want to reduce our population.

01:09:33.000 I want to go into, my friend, who they are, the evidence that's publicly available, and then I want to just get into some of the topical news of the day and get your learned take on it, and then I want to get into 9-11 itself.

01:09:46.000 But first off, thank you for joining us, my friend.

01:09:48.000 It's always a pleasure.

01:09:49.000 Thank you for the invitation.

01:09:50.000 You bet.

01:09:51.000 Well, it's great to be carrying your new, because it's the second edition.

01:09:54.000 It's been out for about a year.

01:09:55.000 The second edition, even more beefy.

01:09:58.000 So powerful.

01:09:59.000 Synthetic terror, though.

01:10:00.000 I mean, synthetic means man-made.

01:10:02.000 No naturally occurring ingredients.

01:10:05.000 It is created at the molecular level.

01:10:10.000 And this truly is synthetic terror, is it not?

01:10:12.000 Yes, I think it's synthetic in two ways.

01:10:14.000 I say it's synthetic because First of all, it's artificial.

01:10:17.000 It's not sociologically created.

01:10:20.000 In other words, it's not the direct product of political conditions in the world.

01:10:25.000 It doesn't come from a grassroots organic... No.

01:10:27.000 It comes through the intervention of intelligence agencies.

01:10:30.000 Without intelligence agencies, secret services, what have you, you generally do not have 95% of the international terrorism, and anything spectacular, anything on the scale of 9-11, is absolutely dependent on the intelligence agency.

01:10:44.000 This was pointed out by my friend, General Ivashov of Russia, in an essay that he sent out.

01:10:50.000 It happened to get my picture on it in the last couple of weeks.

01:10:55.000 I was talking to Jack Blood about it last week.

01:10:57.000 The other thing about synthetic is it brings together disparate elements, different ingredients, different components.

01:11:05.000 And that would be The moles, right?

01:11:08.000 We have to have people in the government who are loyal to that private network of oligarchs, aristocrats, bankers, finance oligarchs that you're just mentioning.

01:11:18.000 You've got to have your patsies, you've got to have the attas, the bin ladens, and so forth, who really could not exist without the support of intelligence agencies.

01:11:28.000 Ayatollah Khomeini.

01:11:29.000 Yes, of course, they have to be assisted, but at the level of these terror operatives per se, I think they're even more dependent.

01:11:37.000 They couldn't get through the day.

01:11:38.000 I think that's where Able Danger, by the way, comes in.

01:11:41.000 Able Danger is the case officers for these people.

01:11:43.000 And then you've got your trained professionals.

01:11:45.000 You've got the people who actually do have the ability to bring about these events, be it the Kennedy assassination or 9-11.

01:11:53.000 And those are people that you hear very little about, because they're not ideologues, they don't come forward to talk in public, they simply do their deadly work and disappear as fast as they can.

01:12:03.000 And a lot of times they end up being presidents.

01:12:05.000 I mean, a lot of the people we see as committee chairmen and presidents are actual hitmen.

01:12:09.000 I mean, they're actual guys who've done it.

01:12:12.000 Well, you can certainly say, I could name a couple on the mole level.

01:12:15.000 I mean, if you look at Senator Specter in the Senate there, remember, he's the author of the magic bullet theory from the Kennedy administration.

01:12:24.000 Or George H. W. Bush, clearly involved in the Kennedy op and photographs on the ground in Big D. Clearly.

01:12:29.000 So, there we go.

01:12:32.000 That's a way to get promoted.

01:12:33.000 Or you can also say that General Shoemaker, or Schoemaker, I think he likes to call himself, Who was, he's now the head of the army.

01:12:43.000 Did the what work in Waco?

01:12:45.000 Yes, some of that and basically when you have something like September 11th taking place.

01:12:50.000 You see who gets promoted after that, and then you get a clue as to who's doing what to who.

01:12:54.000 The NORAD general, the NORAD general in control, he suddenly is catapulted to chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

01:13:01.000 Yes, so you basically have this pattern of people being rewarded, and I think that's what I mean by synthetic terror.

01:13:10.000 My definition of terrorism is false flag, state-sponsored, Terrorism.

01:13:15.000 And the thing that makes my second edition different from the first edition is during the course of 2005, because of information that's come into the public domain, it's easier now, it's more possible to identify the specific military drills That were used to conduit the 9-11 operations.

01:13:36.000 In other words, if you say, planes crashing into buildings, well, we know that's the National Reconnaissance Office in Chantilly, Virginia.

01:13:43.000 That drill was going on that day.

01:13:45.000 If you say, cruise missile hits Pentagon, you can now immediately relate that to the, um, Amalgam Virgo 01, Amalgam Virgo 02.

01:13:53.000 And they were having that exact drill at the exact same time, just by accident?

01:13:57.000 Uh, there were 15-plus drills.

01:14:00.000 Now, it depends on how you count them.

01:14:02.000 Amalgam Virgo had been a little bit beforehand.

01:14:04.000 But four drills that morning that matched the exact targets and times.

01:14:08.000 More.

01:14:09.000 I mean more in the sense of there's a whole series of drills.

01:14:12.000 There's the Northern Vigilance, Northern Guardian.

01:14:15.000 Vigilant Guardian, Vigilant Warrior.

01:14:17.000 I want listeners to get something.

01:14:18.000 Drills of hijacked jets flying to the World Trade Center at Pentagon, going on that day at the exact same time.

01:14:25.000 I mean, come on, boys and girls.

01:14:26.000 I mean, the chances of that are just off the charts.

01:14:29.000 You've also got other, well, some of these are real operations.

01:14:32.000 The jets that should have been defending New York and Washington were either in Alaska, Northern Canada, Or Iceland, that was part of the Vigilant Guardian.

01:14:42.000 And we looked at that, it had been like four years since that area wasn't defended.

01:14:46.000 Just magically, the exact day, the planes are never gone, but magically this day they are.

01:14:52.000 Just hundreds of things, perfectly happening, right in place.

01:14:55.000 And then about one-third of the jets from Langley Air Force Base were actually in Northern Iraq.

01:15:00.000 Running that illegal unilateral no-fly zone that had been imposed by the Bush administration, maintained by Clinton, and then maintained by Bush, too.

01:15:10.000 So you can see that the Iraq question actually had a role in terms of where those jets were.

01:15:16.000 And that was not a drill.

01:15:17.000 That was a real operation with real bullets announced.

01:15:20.000 So I think it's possible to identify those those drills as the way that it was conduit.

01:15:27.000 Well, let me stop you there.

01:15:28.000 On 7-7, we discovered, because they blurped it out on BBC, nobody paid attention, we picked up on it, exact drills, exact same time and place, exact places that got hit, being run by the former spokesman for Scotland Yard with the government at the exact same places.

01:15:43.000 The statistical chance of that, again, has 48 plus zeros on the end of it.

01:15:49.000 It's always the same.

01:15:50.000 Why do a drill, Webster?

01:15:52.000 Well, I'll give my reasons.

01:15:53.000 It's a cover.

01:15:54.000 If any of your operatives get caught inside the compartmental governmental structure, Oh, it's just a drill.

01:15:59.000 Then it's also used as a way to have others stand down because you can tell them that it is a drill, other reasons.

01:16:06.000 Well, I would say, when you get to the level of 9-11, or perhaps what is being prepared today to prepare the attack on Iran, you're dealing with terror operations that are so ambitious, so widespread, that they require the use of government assets.

01:16:22.000 So therefore you have the problem of this coterie of a cabal of treasonous coup d'etat officers and their associates.

01:16:31.000 They need to run part of their activities through the government security and military bureaucracy.

01:16:37.000 And how do they do that?

01:16:39.000 And I think the way that they do it is to design a drill that mimics and resembles in just about every way the terrorist action that they wish to carry out.

01:16:49.000 So that very small changes that can be made at the last minute by just a couple of rotten apples in the entire group.

01:16:57.000 Can allow the terrorist action to take place.

01:16:59.000 Just imagine this scene, right?

01:17:00.000 The military operates based on need-to-know and compartmentalization.

01:17:04.000 And the people delivering, the Special Forces team is really delivering a real A-bomb to the Super Bowl instead of a dud, and then of course that Special Forces team, as they're extracted and flown back for debriefing, say at Fort Benning, Georgia, their plane goes down.

01:17:22.000 Yes, they liquidated.

01:17:23.000 I think that's the fate of many participants in this.

01:17:27.000 You've got to design it so that it's very close, and then you can make the changes at the last moment.

01:17:32.000 That is, the drill ceases to be a drill, and the drill goes live.

01:17:35.000 And when you read what these people write about their own drills, they always say, we want the maximum fidelity, we want it to resemble as much as possible a real terrorist event.

01:17:44.000 Well, the maximum of fidelity is that it actually is real.

01:17:47.000 But the closer they get to the real thing, the easier it is to go live with these small changes.

01:17:53.000 And I think this is the basis for saying, as you're suggesting, especially now this week, shut down these drills.

01:17:59.000 We don't need them.

01:18:00.000 They're expensive.

01:18:01.000 Even if they go well, they cause destruction.

01:18:04.000 They're dangerous.

01:18:05.000 They cause traffic jams, air pollution.

01:18:06.000 Well, on their service, it's used to cause fear in the population to have reports about nukes going off.

01:18:14.000 Is terrorism, by its very nature, it's just a psychological lower level of terrorism, like fire in a theater?

01:18:21.000 Exactly.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, stay there Webster. 1.00

01:18:24.000 I want to get into all of this and talk about it.

01:18:26.000 We're not saying this is going to happen this time.

01:18:28.000 Also, it wears everybody down.

01:18:31.000 All these drills create false chatter that then fills the surveillance nets, the NSA and other global scoops or nets, up with the false chatter that can then smokescreen a real op.

01:18:45.000 That's another facet.

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01:23:03.000 We're going to get into some of the news headlines like U.S.

01:23:06.000 plans to fight the net revealed BBC.

01:23:10.000 And it says they're going to engage in domestic propaganda here in America for our own good, of course.

01:23:15.000 Having the Pentagon engage in propaganda, which they've always done, but now overtly, that's what freedom is!

01:23:21.000 No, it's just textbook tyranny.

01:23:24.000 But Webster Tarbley, you know, we knew that back in the late 60s that the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin had been staged.

01:23:31.000 That had been in major newspapers.

01:23:33.000 And then a few years ago, right here in Austin, the Presidential Library, LBJ Library and Museum released the tapes.

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01:23:41.000 With McNamara, LBJ's at his ranch talking to McNamara at the Pentagon about how they staged it and how our ships really attacked them.

01:23:49.000 How they were smart enough to not even shoot back, but how we were going to say they attacked us.

01:23:53.000 And then 58,000 Americans and over a million Vietnamese died in a staged war just for profits. 0.81

01:23:58.000 That's why they could have won the war in just a few weeks.

01:24:00.000 They didn't want to.

01:24:01.000 In Iraq, the Pentagon's own documents say 10-20 years is what they want because of maximum profit.

01:24:07.000 You see, having a civil war, having it go bad, they actually have an excuse to stay there and build permanent bases.

01:24:13.000 We have that.

01:24:14.000 We have Northwoods, where the U.S. 0.97

01:24:15.000 government said we'll hijack jets by remote control, crash them, blame it on foreign enemies.

01:24:21.000 We have the USS Liberty was a staged event.

01:24:24.000 I mean, I've interviewed the admirals who got the call from LBJ saying, I want that ship going to the GD bottom to be blamed on Egypt.

01:24:31.000 So, we have our government working with Israel in that case.

01:24:34.000 Webster, there are so many declassified, admitted examples.

01:24:38.000 It's not like we're just saying these new events are elements in government.

01:24:42.000 We have admitted I mean, I know you know this, but for some of the audience that may not know, understand folks, it's like I'm reporting on George Washington or something.

01:24:51.000 It's like I'm reporting on Martin Luther King giving a speech on the mall in D.C.

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01:24:59.000 I mean, we're just reporting on admitted things, like elephants being in Africa.

01:25:05.000 It's not like we're stretching or trying to confirm something.

01:25:11.000 Can you comment on that, Webster?

01:25:12.000 Well, I think we have to look at that record and take some conclusions for the immediate emergency.

01:25:18.000 In other words, what you're pointing to, I agree with very strongly.

01:25:21.000 When terrorist events and war provocations, be they military provocations or terrorist provocations, occur, the first prime suspect is always the government involved.

01:25:32.000 In other words, it's state-sponsored terrorism.

01:25:35.000 You were mentioning the London 7th of July last year.

01:25:39.000 They had prepared that at the distance of some months with Top Off 3, Atlantic Blue, and Triple Play by the US, Britain, and Canada being involved in those.

01:25:48.000 Then on the day of, We had Peter Power and Visor Associates in those stations at the same time, more or less, and Scotland Yard knew all about it so that they could warn local dignitaries, including Netanyahu.

01:26:01.000 So, we have to draw some conclusions from this, though.

01:26:04.000 We look at September 11th.

01:26:08.000 I just wanted to mention Amalgam Virgo.

01:26:10.000 Some of these things are new.

01:26:12.000 uh... newly assembled uh... evidence amalgam virgo for june two thousand and two so the one that was being prepared around the time of september eleventh had a delta seven fifty seven with real delta pilots but passengers we're going to be actors flying from salt lake city utah to honolulu hawaii saying i am hijacked and the hijackers were going to be fbi agents posing as terrorists now remember at the time of Uh, September 11th.

01:26:41.000 It came out within about a week that Atta and the others had lived on U.S.

01:26:44.000 military bases, had been trained on U.S.

01:26:47.000 military bases.

01:26:47.000 Are you kidding?

01:26:48.000 The dean of the Defense Language School, the dean of the most prestigious spy school for language and coding, went public and said, these are agents!

01:26:57.000 I trained them!

01:26:58.000 Precisely.

01:26:58.000 So, here's the thing.

01:27:00.000 I think when we look at that Able Danger group... Hey, we're on the same page.

01:27:04.000 These are government operatives who thought they were part of drills.

01:27:07.000 Able Danger is not a group that observes terrorist activity.

01:27:12.000 Able Danger, in my book, is a group that observes as part of running.

01:27:15.000 In other words, they're case officers.

01:27:17.000 They're terrorist controllers.

01:27:20.000 If you look at how the military runs these drills, you have Able Warrior is generally the largest special forces drill of the year, and it's anti-terrorism, so-called.

01:27:31.000 They need somebody to play the attack against Able Warrior, and I think that's Able Danger.

01:27:36.000 Able Danger is a group of military intelligence people and special forces who have a stable of quote, Arab terrorists, unquote, Led by the double agent, ATA. 0.57

01:27:46.000 And by the way, we have quadruple nexus on that, just from the areas, and obviously you're now more informed than I am.

01:27:53.000 It looks like you've gone past my knowledge level on this with even more caveats of knowledge.

01:27:58.000 But clearly, all of these hijackers are in houses with the FBI paying for their houses.

01:28:03.000 When they can't get back in, the government calls the embassy and says they're government operatives in an anti-terror operation.

01:28:10.000 They're trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station, a defense language school.

01:28:14.000 All of this, clearly, they were government agents taking part in what they thought was a drill.

01:28:20.000 And now you've come out with some of these Amalgam, Virgo, and other drills with the details.

01:28:20.000 Webster, stay there.

01:28:26.000 It's just unbelievable.

01:28:27.000 I mean, folks, on its face, on its face, a bunch of the hijackers trained in a super-secret spy school in Monterey, California.

01:28:35.000 And the Dean goes public and says the government did it.

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01:36:28.000 Before we get back into 9-11, Webster Tarpley, and your incredible book, 9-11 Synthetic Terror, I wanted to specifically Specifically, talk to you about what the globalists want to build, who they are, what they want to do.

01:36:43.000 Let's stop talking about 9-11.

01:36:47.000 For a while, because I want to get into something we haven't talked a lot about on the show, that I see you as one of the foremost experts.

01:36:54.000 See, I never listen to experts.

01:36:56.000 What I do is I go out and do my own original research in a wide spectrum.

01:37:00.000 And mainly I see the trade publications and industry publications is where you'll really learn the truth.

01:37:05.000 And then I go out and look at others who have the similar, take similar view because they've done good research.

01:37:12.000 And then I learn even more from the research that you and others have done.

01:37:16.000 And your research on the British oligarchy married into the Dutch and the Germanic role families, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, I mean, these really are the people that own and run our society.

01:37:25.000 I want your expertise on who they are, how their system operates, and what their goal is.

01:37:31.000 If they have their way, what life's going to be like?

01:37:34.000 Well, I think you're dealing as the global enemy with finance oligarchs, in other words, financiers.

01:37:42.000 British and U.S.

01:37:43.000 society is not run by priests or generals or bureaucrats or demagogues.

01:37:49.000 When you get to the final power, the locus of final power is in the banking system, financiers, Wall Street, and the city of London.

01:37:58.000 And their idea is to create an empire, a worldwide single empire, based on that.

01:38:04.000 Now, there had been some resistance in Western Europe in the past couple of years, but the resistance of France For the moment has collapsed with Chirac threatening to use nuclear weapons against Iran and the German resistance has also collapsed with the coming of this woman Merkel to be the Prime Minister of Germany.

01:38:24.000 Uh, right now, I think you have some resistance from disorganized forces in the Arab world, but mainly it's Russia.

01:38:31.000 That's your resistance force number one.

01:38:33.000 By the way, those are called, uh, those are called rogue states.

01:38:36.000 Those are rogue states, and then, of course, China. 0.90

01:38:38.000 So, China, and, and what, uh, what Ivashov has suggested, Is the Shanghai Cooperation Organization become the nucleus for resistance against this?

01:38:48.000 Now, this is obviously full of problems because in some ways these systems are not that much better than the Anglo-American one, but just the fact of having opposition and conflict between them would, I think, have some positive effect. 0.87

01:39:03.000 We might be better off with that than any other way.

01:39:05.000 He wants to have Russia and China be joined by India, Iran, And others.

01:39:11.000 But now let's just, in terms of what their plans are, the main script that they're operating from is the Samuel Huntington clash of civilizations from the 1990s.

01:39:20.000 And he says there are two main enemies.

01:39:22.000 The Arabs and the Islamic world are an enemy because their population is growing so fast, they threaten to use the resources that the London and New York people want to steal. 1.00

01:39:33.000 And then secondly, you've always got China, because of its very high economic development rate, right?

01:39:40.000 10%, 12%, nothing that can be matched by any country in the Western world.

01:39:44.000 And then, we have to add the Wolfowitz Doctrine of 1992, which says that Russia Because if it's military power, we'll always be your enemy. 0.73

01:39:53.000 So there it is.

01:39:53.000 The Arabs and Islam, because... Let's stop right there, though, and go back to this high-level Russian general who you know personally.

01:39:58.000 Let's talk about some of his credentials, and then the paper he put out, which is how the military-industrial complex staged this attack to mobilize their population.

01:40:07.000 Quite right.

01:40:08.000 And that's General Ivashov.

01:40:09.000 General Ivashov is, I think, a patriotic Russian general.

01:40:13.000 He was the person who seized Pristina Airport, back in 1999, when Wesley Clark went nuts and wanted to kick the Russian forces off that airfield.

01:40:23.000 Well, he wanted to attack them and start World War III.

01:40:26.000 General Sir Michael Jackson sent back to Wesley Clark, I'm not going to start World War III for you.

01:40:31.000 Let's just remember that General Wesley Clark is Michael Moore's preferred candidate for president, so that puts a number of things into interesting perspective.

01:40:41.000 So, this is Ivashov, and he basically says, That the only source for large-scale international terrorism is intelligence agencies.

01:40:50.000 That Al-Qaeda and company cannot be the real source of this because they just don't have the ability. 0.95

01:40:56.000 And thirdly, that the only force that does is the US and the British.

01:41:01.000 Well, he's diplomatic in the way he puts it, but the idea is the US and the British.

01:41:06.000 And he says that the desire to have September 11th emerged at the point where The tensions of the financial system emerge, and what I read into that is the collapse of the dollar, the collapse of the US-British dollar-based banking system, and all the banks... Zbigniew Brzezinski said this back in 1997, either they go to the next level of tyranny and attack everybody, or the fiat currency system implodes.

01:41:28.000 Right, the dollar, exactly.

01:41:30.000 So the whole dollar-based system, and we have to talk about the Iranian oil bourse as a key threat to that, because that is the one strategic thing that Iran offers in the middle of all this. 0.88

01:41:40.000 Okay, now let's stop right there, because I want to digress for a minute.

01:41:43.000 I mean, I know for a fact, and I've seen the old CIA section chief on History Channel, I'll never forget, about five years ago admit That they actually help put Mao into power and help kick out the Nationalists.

01:41:54.000 Now, I already knew that, but to have them admit it, I know that, you know, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, for many decades with the Soviets, really owned a lot of the factories.

01:42:02.000 Whenever oligarchs get arrested by Putin, it turns out they're really front men.

01:42:06.000 Forlord, Rothschild of London, that's even in big British newspapers.

01:42:09.000 Financial Times of London admits it.

01:42:12.000 And so when you talk about this bipolar world, how the Arabs aren't great either, but at least it's some impediment or speed bump to this New World Order juggernaut. 1.00

01:42:22.000 Yes, but I see a level above that.

01:42:25.000 That's why these globalists are such masters.

01:42:27.000 I see them actually.

01:42:28.000 I saw a paper five, six years ago where it said the people are going to wake up.

01:42:33.000 The fact that there's a world government forming and world taxation.

01:42:35.000 CoffeeAnna just announced that in Davos yesterday.

01:42:39.000 This whole program for world taxation, which they've already been pushing, but now it's openly being announced.

01:42:44.000 The gauntlet's down.

01:42:45.000 And then I see the very same financial interest in London actually pushing for that world tax and for it to be paid to people like China and Russia.

01:42:52.000 I see the UN giving China awards for its forced abortion and infanticide. 0.90

01:42:56.000 So I really You know, only see this false projection of a bipolar world, where they're giving us a false choice, where Russia and China lead the New World Order, thus destroying any real choice, and just packaging one choice as two choices. 0.70

01:43:13.000 Well, I'm far from saying that that's any definitive way out of things.

01:43:17.000 I simply would say, what you've had for the past 15 years is the US and the British running wild, crushing all 1.00

01:43:24.000 uh... resistance and now the the neocons want to take that to the ultimate level of of attacking iran when they attack iran they're going to kill some of the thirty seven hundred russians that are there and the chinese that are there and i suspect you'll see that uh... the system even though there are oligarchs on both sides who would like to have a single empire the idea of the single empire appeals to oligarchs everywhere even the ones who are going to be the junior partners but I think the world is too unstable for that to happen.

01:43:51.000 In other words, what you're saying is... It's the same thing with the Roman Empire, where you'd have the Eastern and Western Empire and they're always killing each other. 0.89

01:43:58.000 Yes, but I think that the political reality of today's world is richer and more complicated than that, so I wouldn't despair that there's no way out.

01:44:08.000 And the way out of it always is your own political mobilization, right?

01:44:12.000 What you as an individual can do, what you can join with others to do.

01:44:16.000 There's plenty to do.

01:44:17.000 For example, we have these drills coming up.

01:44:21.000 War drills, terror drills.

01:44:23.000 How do you stop those from becoming terrorist provocations?

01:44:26.000 Well, what you do is you denounce them, you expose them, you protest them.

01:44:30.000 You get ecologists, you can get radical environmentalists to do positive things.

01:44:35.000 You can get not-in-my-backyard activists to do positive things, saying, we don't want these drills in our area.

01:44:41.000 So basically, one way or another, by hook or crook, you put light on the cover ops, blow their cover, and then blow their ops.

01:44:48.000 Right. 0.98

01:44:49.000 These are cockroaches, after all.

01:44:50.000 You turn the light on, they scurry away.

01:44:53.000 They don't want the publicity.

01:44:55.000 Even now, I think there's still ample room For the role of public opinion and the role of political mobilization.

01:45:01.000 Because, remember, political mobilization has not been tried.

01:45:04.000 We've had 30 years of stupefied passivity by the vast majority.

01:45:09.000 Well, it's more than that.

01:45:09.000 They've got infiltrators.

01:45:11.000 The minute anybody sticks their head up above ground level, they go, look, they're bad!

01:45:15.000 Or, look, they're making money!

01:45:16.000 Or, look, they're... And then we trace them right back to the Pentagon.

01:45:19.000 And, of course, they're conspiracy theorists, too, if you have anything to protest.

01:45:23.000 But I think that would be the way out, and I think that there's also a lot of opinion around the world in that direction.

01:45:29.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:45:30.000 I mean, I see it as a bigger thing.

01:45:32.000 Simply exposing the fact, I mean, clearly those Russian mass shootings that's now even come out, those are government ops too. 0.52

01:45:38.000 It's not like Russia's some sweet little darling, as you were saying earlier.

01:45:41.000 Clearly not, no, that's not even the idea.

01:45:43.000 Sure, sure, but it's a truly bipolar world, not a monopolar world.

01:45:48.000 I see it as just having a mass renaissance and awakening to government-sponsored terror.

01:45:52.000 Who's done it in the past?

01:45:53.000 Who has the motive now?

01:45:55.000 Who have we caught doing it?

01:45:56.000 I mean, look, my point is we've caught these governments, our government, doing it over and over and over again, Webster.

01:46:02.000 Then, you know, if somebody, let's say, has robbed banks a bunch, and then the person fits the M.O.

01:46:07.000 and we find out they live on our street, the bank robbers should be questioned first, not the whole population.

01:46:13.000 And so if the government's been caught doing it over and over again, And they've got the motive, then we should go talk to them!

01:46:20.000 I agree.

01:46:21.000 Last July, we had a meeting here in Washington, D.C.

01:46:25.000 at American University, and out of that came the Independent International Truth Commission's drill monitoring function, which has been mediated through a couple of websites.

01:46:35.000 One is total411.info.

01:46:38.000 That gives you a kind of a tabloid version of the drills that may be coming.

01:46:42.000 That's a good site.

01:46:42.000 And then if you want to have all the details, right, encyclopedic details of the drills that are coming, Team8plus.org.

01:46:50.000 T-E-A-M, the number 8, P-L-U-S dot org. 0.89

01:46:53.000 And there you have the whole thing.

01:46:55.000 Every bird flu drill that's happening on the coast of Asia and everything else.

01:46:59.000 But you have to pay attention to all of them, because you never know which is the one.

01:47:02.000 Let me bring this up to you, Webster.

01:47:04.000 Most of the government is not evil people, but they're brainwashed, they're compartmentalized, they're very simple.

01:47:10.000 Just like the general public, they're very naive.

01:47:13.000 But as this awakening takes place, and I'm seeing an acceleration in the awakening out there.

01:47:17.000 I mean, I don't know if you're seeing that.

01:47:18.000 I'm going to get your take on it.

01:47:19.000 But as we see this awakening take place, isn't it going to get harder and harder for the New World Order crowd to execute these operations, because so many of their own people are wise and know what to look for? 0.55

01:47:31.000 Well, I think that's sometimes an unreliable read to lean on, because it can't actually be, right?

01:47:38.000 There is some institutional resistance inside the federal government structures on the part of Primarily traditionalists or real conservatives as distinct from fascist neoconservatives who don't share this outlook.

01:47:53.000 I think there's certainly the possibility that some resistance can come in.

01:47:58.000 In terms of the bigger picture, I'll just say to Samuel Huntington, the guy that I just talked about, writing back in the early 1980s, and I remember it struck me very much at the time when I saw it, Samuel Huntington He said that he expected a political upsurge in the United States sometime in the second decade of the 21st century.

01:48:19.000 So sometime between 2010 and 2020, he thought that there would be what he called a creedal passion period.

01:48:28.000 A time when people become very focused on the abuses of government.

01:48:33.000 They're fed up with government overreaching.

01:48:35.000 They want to go back to equality, freedom, and the other founding values.

01:48:40.000 And the globalists understand these societal trends.

01:48:42.000 They're trying to head it off at the pass.

01:48:44.000 Yes, and that's of course what Samuel Huntington is telling you in the 1980s.

01:48:47.000 He says, well, what we have to do now is get ready to turn that creedal passion period into a dictatorship.

01:48:54.000 It'll become the opportunity to create A dictatorial, authoritarian, or totalitarian government.

01:48:59.000 And I would say we, on the other side, have to be aware that such an upsurge is coming.

01:49:05.000 You know, that's what I think people don't get, and I want you to finish here in a second or after the break, because it sounds like it's a key point.

01:49:11.000 People have to be aware, the globalists, they write books all the time where they call us slaves and talk about taking our rights.

01:49:19.000 I don't think some of the listeners realize that, Webster.

01:49:22.000 No, but they do.

01:49:23.000 They do.

01:49:23.000 And you can see it in Samuel Huntington's book from the early 1980s, the discussion of the creedal passion period coming up after 2010.

01:49:31.000 Stay there.

01:49:31.000 I want to... You were saying that we have to realize that and do something.

01:49:35.000 I want to hear what that something is on the other side.

01:49:37.000 And we'll take calls.

01:49:38.000 A lot more on 9-11 coming up with an amazing individual, Webster Tarbley.

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01:52:45.000 You've got to be heartless to be able to dominate populations.

01:52:56.000 But more than just heartless, you have to enjoy it in many cases.

01:53:00.000 And royals throughout history, it didn't matter whether they were Asian or European or African or American, the Mesoamericans, they just enjoyed mass killing, torture, sacrifice, enslavement. 0.94

01:53:13.000 It was their exercise.

01:53:14.000 It was an exercise in fear.

01:53:16.000 And so there was no one there to tell them no or to stop.

01:53:19.000 And you look at what the globalists say, what they do.

01:53:22.000 They want to build a world without choice, a world without freedom, and a world in which they want to reduce our populations by 80 to 95 percent.

01:53:30.000 I mean, this is declassified.

01:53:31.000 So later in the next hour, I want to talk to Webster about that as well, and get into all this domestic propaganda.

01:53:36.000 I know we have Elijah, and Maggie, and Brian, and Dean, and everybody else, and Richard.

01:53:40.000 We're about to go to Maggie, who's been holding for eons, but Webster, you were trying to make a point about this revolutionary period against tyranny that some of their big brains were scoping decades ago, and you were saying, we need to be aware of that, and do what?

01:53:53.000 Well, you have to have political... First of all, you have to have that perspective.

01:53:56.000 You've got to think in terms of decades, rather than just what's going to work for the next month.

01:54:01.000 And you've got to have political education.

01:54:02.000 In terms of political education, I'd just like to say one thing was what Bush was going to ask for in the post-9-11 resolution, and this has just come out now in December.

01:54:14.000 When the 9-11 took place, there was going to be this congressional resolution, and it was going to be the basis of the attack on Afghanistan.

01:54:22.000 Bush asked the Congress for the power to, quote, deter and preempt any future acts of terrorism or aggression Against the United States.

01:54:31.000 Now, that's a very sweeping declaration of war against the universe.

01:54:35.000 So the Congress said, no, we'll give you all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons who... I mean, this sounds like the plot of Episode 3, Revenge of the Sith.

01:54:46.000 Well, let me just give you the last one.

01:54:48.000 What Bush wanted... Now, this is the most important of these quotes.

01:54:51.000 Bush asked the Congress to give him, quote, all the necessary to authorize All necessary and appropriate force in the United States and against those nations, organizations, or persons The President determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided 9-11.

01:55:11.000 And he didn't get that, but now he is, by fiat, declaring the Caesar power and saying, I can do whatever I want, and John Yu and his Attorney General, Alberto Gonzalez, have written that in memos.

01:55:25.000 I'm sure you've heard the Yu clip from the CFR meeting in Chicago, where he's... Absolutely, we have Yu and... We'll talk about that then.

01:55:31.000 Well, these are basically Nazis.

01:55:34.000 These are followers of Carl Schmitt.

01:55:37.000 They say that they're inspired by Madison or Hamilton or whatever it is. 0.69

01:55:41.000 It's a lot of baloney.

01:55:42.000 They're going back to the man that you can only describe as Hitler's lawyer, Carl Schmitt.

01:55:48.000 The guy who gave Hitler advice on how to have a coup in Prussia and then how to have a coup in Germany as a whole. 0.66

01:55:54.000 For those who don't know, they're saying the President can torture small children.

01:55:57.000 I mean, it actually says that.

01:55:58.000 He can commit genocide.

01:56:00.000 The version, the way that Carl Schmitt summed it up was, if you want to attack your own cities with poison gas to restore order, that's fine.

01:56:09.000 That's all in my book, the discussion of Carl Schmitt as the model for the neocon.

01:56:13.000 By the way, that's in U.S.

01:56:15.000 Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1528, Subsection B. Did you know that?

01:56:19.000 No, I didn't know that.

01:56:21.000 Let's take a call from Maggie real quick. 0.99

01:56:23.000 Maggie in Texas, thanks for holding her on the air.

01:56:24.000 Go ahead.

01:56:25.000 Hi Alex.

01:56:26.000 I was talking to somebody who has contacts within the resident Brazilian community in London.

01:56:35.000 And who also had happened to be traveling in London around the time of those bombings.

01:56:40.000 And he said that he had been able to talk to some of DeMendez's circle of friends and acquaintances.

01:56:50.000 So I asked him what they told him.

01:56:52.000 And he said, well, one thing that kept coming up was how much he loved his work and how he had always wanted to be an electrician ever since he was a very little kid putting Well, it occurred to me that if he was that devoted to his work, he was probably very good at it.

01:57:13.000 Perhaps even one of the best.

01:57:16.000 We're talking about the gentleman who was shot a whole bunch there in the tube.

01:57:21.000 Stay there.

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01:59:21.000 Webster Tarbley, an amazing author, researcher, investigative journalist, joins us today.

01:59:27.000 And Maggie, you've been holding for a while in Texas.

01:59:29.000 Let's bring her back up briefly. 0.78

01:59:32.000 And Maggie, you know, you can bring up the fact that he was a happy young man.

01:59:35.000 His family said he loved his work as an electrician.

01:59:37.000 Regardless of all of that, now we know he didn't run, he wasn't wearing a jacket, he didn't have bombs.

01:59:43.000 They sat on top of him and shot him between eight and fourteen times, depending on what report in the head.

01:59:49.000 And now it's in the news today that the police lied on the reports from day one.

01:59:53.000 Webster Tarpley, we know the government, that is criminal elements of it, were behind the 7-7 and 7-21.

01:59:57.000 That's been conclusively proven.

02:00:00.000 What do you think happened with the Brazilian man?

02:00:03.000 I don't know except to say that he was obviously murdered in cold blood and it's shocking for a country like Britain that has always made such a big deal out of its Defensive of civil liberties, and in reality, MI5, the British equivalent of the FBI, has pervasive police powers.

02:00:23.000 It goes far beyond what the FBI has.

02:00:26.000 And the best authority on this, I think, is David Shaler.

02:00:29.000 I've had a chance to talk with him.

02:00:31.000 Yeah, we've had him on, a former MI5 agent.

02:00:33.000 I've been in conferences with him twice during 2005.

02:00:35.000 And Andy Michon.

02:00:37.000 Right, and that's the interesting book, Spies, Lies, and Whistleblowers, I think.

02:00:42.000 They're in my new film that's coming out now.

02:00:44.000 You can go through the entire story of how the British government has created a police state.

02:00:51.000 And of course now it's come out that Tony Blair was never this little cool hippie on the college.

02:00:55.000 He was always MI5.

02:00:57.000 Yes, David Shaler is the source of that report, I believe, on Tony Blair being an MI5 informant and spy.

02:01:04.000 Isn't it suspicious what happened to DeMendez?

02:01:07.000 Because we know they like to use Latin Americans as doubles. 1.00

02:01:09.000 It was like they were getting rid of somebody.

02:01:11.000 Yes, I think that there is a suspicion about this.

02:01:14.000 We don't know, but regardless, they killed him in cold blood.

02:01:16.000 Then we have the guy on the airplane in Miami, who it turned out hadn't said bomb, was having a panic attack.

02:01:22.000 They killed him too.

02:01:23.000 I mean, are they setting some type of weird precedent?

02:01:25.000 Well, I think the only way to figure that out is to look at where we stand in terms of the drills.

02:01:30.000 Now, right now, we're in the final phases of Terminal Fury 06.

02:01:36.000 Which is a bio-war drill in the Pacific and we're going into able ally in the springtime which is a NATO drill and then we get Able Warrior, which is that special forces, so-called anti-terrorism... That was used as a cover on 9-11.

02:01:52.000 Uh, well, I don't know if Able Warrior precisely was going, but Able Danger certainly was.

02:01:56.000 In other words, the matching component of... And now we know that the Able Danger people were trying to give data, and they were saying, hey, back off.

02:02:02.000 Uh, well, again, I think that there's much more to this.

02:02:05.000 I think that inside Able Danger there's something called Door Hop Galley that I'd love to know more about.

02:02:10.000 But somehow there's a component of Able Danger that's actually running the terrorists while they're using electricity.

02:02:16.000 No, I agree.

02:02:16.000 All the evidence shows that.

02:02:17.000 Does that answer your question there, Maggie?

02:02:19.000 No, you didn't let me finish making my point, Alex, which was that electricians have the knowledge of detonators, timers, demolitions, and things like that, and he was probably an expert on those subjects.

02:02:31.000 We just really don't speculate a lot, but obviously the whole thing's suspicious.

02:02:31.000 No, I hear you.

02:02:35.000 You did make your point.

02:02:36.000 Thank you for the call.

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02:07:42.000 While trying to cover the news and take your calls, going back to Webster Tarpley, Webster, we catch the government, the governments of the world throughout history and in modern times, lying premeditatedly so many times, caught doing chemical and biological testing on the American people, radiating G.I.' 's babies and killing them cold-bloodedly, but still we just, oh, I'll trust the government, I'll trust the people that run it.

02:08:10.000 When in reality, really smart serial killers go and join in these type of communal hives in government and promote each other into greater and greater positions of power. 0.96

02:08:22.000 So it's kind of like a court of sickos all working in tandem in a communal system.

02:08:30.000 Against us.

02:08:32.000 It's a crew of rogues or pirates feeding on us, but they've got fancy PR teams out front working for them.

02:08:39.000 So I wanted to bring up some of this news to you.

02:08:42.000 And get your take on it because I have a whole stack of news on this subject today.

02:08:48.000 We've all heard of the fake reporters and the Department of Education, Department of Agriculture, Department of Health and Human Services paying all these reporters to go spin or Tommy Frank's 400 grand a year to say he's not being paid to say this but that he loves the war and he loves this and that.

02:09:06.000 Well, this is out of the BBC, US Plans to Fight the Net Revealed, and it says the Pentagon has been, is now going to target websites it doesn't like, people it disagrees with, and then it says propaganda, just like its Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence, that was announced back in 2003.

02:09:24.000 This says right here, information intended for foreign audiences, including diplomacy and PSYOP, psychological warfare, is increasingly consumed by our domestic audience, it reads.

02:09:35.000 And it goes on to say that this is what they actually want to do.

02:09:39.000 It says, PSYOP's messages will often be relayed by the news media for much larger audiences, including the American public.

02:09:47.000 And so, of course, it just goes on and on, and then it talks about credibility problem.

02:09:54.000 Public awareness for the U.S.

02:09:55.000 military's information operations is low, but it's growing thanks to some operational clumsiness.

02:10:01.000 Last year, it emerged the Pentagon had paid a private company, the Lincoln Group, to plant hundreds of stories in Iraqi newspapers.

02:10:09.000 Well, see that's a whitewash there, too.

02:10:10.000 They actually ran the papers and killed, not the Lincoln Group, but our military.

02:10:13.000 Well, they just gave a guy 30 years for writing a bad story about the occupation.

02:10:17.000 But then they tell us in our media that Iraqi media is free.

02:10:21.000 Oh, look, they're free.

02:10:22.000 The stories all supported U.S.

02:10:23.000 policy were written by military personnel and then placed in Iraqi publications. 0.96

02:10:29.000 And then, of course, we have the gay porn stars at midnight every night at the White House being called on by Bush every time he's in a jam, calling on a special friend. 0.97

02:10:40.000 Give me your take on that, Webster Tarpley. 0.90

02:10:42.000 Well, I can just say in general, if you go back and look at the framers of the Constitution, they obviously thought that you always have to assume the worst possible motives on the part of anybody in power.

02:10:55.000 At least you have to be prepared For the eventuality that somebody who enjoys large amounts of power is going to be motivated by very bad ideas and motivations.

02:11:06.000 And this is the whole spirit of the Constitution.

02:11:09.000 In which you cannot have somebody saying, I'm arrogating to myself absolute power.

02:11:13.000 It's a funny story, but the American Constitution seems to have the idea in it, and I think it's a good one, that you have these three impulses.

02:11:21.000 You have monarchy, oligarchy, and democracy.

02:11:24.000 And if you look at the branches, the President has a Monarchical setup, the Senate is oligarchical, the federal judiciary oligarchical, but the House is supposed to be democratic.

02:11:34.000 The problem that we have today is that they're all oligarchical because of the passivity of the population.

02:11:40.000 The only way the system works Is the vigilance and the activism of the citizens.

02:11:45.000 Well yeah, the firewalls in the three branches of government have been systematically bought off, paid off, and so the firewalls have been breached.

02:11:52.000 It's like levees, or dams, or a better example is bulkheads in a ship.

02:11:58.000 And you need reform.

02:11:59.000 In other words, somehow that oligarchy has got to be rolled back.

02:12:03.000 Because you look at Bush, he's not a person, he's a mouthpiece for a committee of handlers.

02:12:08.000 And the executive branch, therefore, is an oligarchical Presidency and you've got the oligarchy in the House of Representatives because the offices are bought and sold which is the classic definition of oligarchy.

02:12:20.000 So somehow this is what has got to change unless the original plan is somehow reasserted.

02:12:27.000 Then you're pitching into precisely this kind of abuse.

02:12:30.000 Well, I just want to say this to the elite minions that are listening, the little servants out there.

02:12:35.000 You know, we'll talk to them and we'll go, okay, you've been lied to, now they admit they lied to you.

02:12:40.000 And a day before, their minions will be defending the lie, saying it's true.

02:12:44.000 Then as soon as it's exposed as a lie, they go, oh, of course they lied to us.

02:12:47.000 It's for our own good.

02:12:49.000 I think so many Americans who serve this system think they're part of it.

02:12:52.000 Can you speak to that, Webster?

02:12:54.000 Well, again, if you look back to what Hamilton and Madison and so forth really thought, you don't owe any allegiance to any political party or political faction.

02:13:08.000 And indeed, they thought that factions would destroy the Constitution, and maybe that's what we're seeing today.

02:13:13.000 The Constitution is being destroyed by political parties in the way that Hamilton and Madison thought was the great danger.

02:13:20.000 Well, here's another example of just lies and propaganda.

02:13:23.000 They told us about drones that would kill us in 30 minutes and nukes that would kill us in 45.

02:13:28.000 And admittedly we learned it wasn't bad data.

02:13:32.000 They lied on purpose.

02:13:33.000 That's now declassified.

02:13:35.000 Downing Street Memo, a whole bunch of others.

02:13:38.000 We know they premeditatedly lied to us.

02:13:41.000 And then now they have this Iraqi General, Sada, this known liar, running around saying that in 85 bin Laden came there, well he was our ally in 85, same time Rumsfeld was going over there.

02:13:53.000 And that Saddam shipped the bio and chemical weapons out to Syria, and this is the same crowd that's lied over and over and over again, but now we're supposed to believe them yet again. 0.70

02:14:05.000 Obviously, it's clear that there is an attack on Iran and or Syria, which is now in the final stages of preparation, and I would have to point out, the Democratic Party is as complicit in this as you can be.

02:14:20.000 One of the main promoters of the attack on Iran is Hillary Clinton.

02:14:24.000 I would say, well, Lieberman is obviously, he makes no bones about it, but Hillary Clinton, Lieberman, and leaders of the Democratic Party... And I want conservatives, I agree, I want conservatives to think about a Hillary with all these powers.

02:14:39.000 Yes, it's quite disturbing, and I think this is where it's clear that something more than picking between these two parties.

02:14:47.000 Well, yeah, I mean, really, they're showing us now when Bill Clinton comes out and defends the war, and we've known that Bill Clinton and the Bushes have been narcotics trafficking together going back to the 80s.

02:14:58.000 I think what we have to look at right now is the very grave danger of a war with Iran, and that the way in which it's going to happen has been known since last summer, when Cheney instructed the Pentagon, be ready to attack Iran with nuclear weapons and or conventional weapons.

02:15:15.000 if we're attacked.

02:15:16.000 And then have, well, he said, in the wake of a new 9-11.

02:15:20.000 But the new 9-11 is not something that Cheney's going to wait around for.

02:15:23.000 He's not going to do rain dances and hope for a new 9-11. 0.60

02:15:26.000 He's obviously going to make sure that it happens.

02:15:29.000 No, no, he's telling the Pentagon, we're going to be attacked, and we're going to hit them with nukes, and they want to suck us into a war we can't win.

02:15:36.000 That's why they've got the draft boards set back up, they've got the bills introduced, and every time we mention it, they say conspiracy theory when the draft boards have been set up again.

02:15:43.000 Well, for the neocons, remember, for the neocons and the elitists in general, the only way that you can justify A hierarchical society run by plutocrats is to have a constant war going on.

02:15:54.000 Perpetual war for perpetual peace.

02:15:56.000 The one thing that George Orwell perfectly well identified back in the late 1940s, you've got to have constant warfare, or you cannot motivate this kind of a social movement.

02:16:07.000 And by the way, he was a propagandist for them, boys and girls.

02:16:10.000 That's why he knew this.

02:16:11.000 And in the book, the government bombs itself.

02:16:15.000 Right, that's a quote you can find, if you can't find it in the book, you can find it in my 9-11 synthetic terror, Made in USA, and you're absolutely right, he was a British agent who knew whereof he spoke.

02:16:26.000 I mean, he worked for them all over.

02:16:27.000 I mean, he was a secret policeman in India, then he was a communist, then he was a BBC propagandist in World War II, and he knew!

02:16:34.000 Let me just point to one thing which I think is important, which is the nuclear component of all this, just in terms of these drills.

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02:17:05.000 The submarines were in firing positions near the coasts of Russia, China, we have to assume.

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02:17:13.000 And in the middle of that exercise, they had a backdoor built in the case of a rogue insider with access to command and control systems who wanted to launch nuclear missiles apart from the President's authority.

02:17:25.000 So, the invisible government had their own backdoor means of going to nuclear confrontation on the morning of 9-11.

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02:22:49.000 I'll ask you a question.

02:22:50.000 Have you ever read the book, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements?

02:22:55.000 It was originally published in the year 1924.

02:22:58.000 No, but I've heard about it.

02:22:59.000 Okay, well, I'd just like to make the connection here, because I think that... Well, I mean, all secret societies are the old name of intelligence agencies.

02:23:09.000 They didn't call them intelligence agencies 150 years ago.

02:23:12.000 They call them secret societies.

02:23:14.000 But I want to get Webster's take on that in a minute.

02:23:15.000 Go ahead.

02:23:16.000 That's right.

02:23:17.000 Well, you know, you as well as me, Alex, we're Christians, and I'd just like to get your take on, you know, If the Holy Testimony says that Lucifer is the God of this world by human choice, then he must have a supreme king in this world.

02:23:37.000 Now, all the great Christian reformers like Martin Luther, Tyndale Wycliffe, Jerome Huss, the Calvin Brothers, and the list goes on.

02:23:45.000 all these great men declared the ten identifying marks of the prophet Daniel chapter 7 declared that the seed of Rome the papacy was Antichrist okay listen I appreciate your call I guess Webster you want to comment on that I really wouldn't have anything to say about that I think it would take so long to even begin to deal with those points that I think we'd eat up the whole time and we still wouldn't get an answer.

02:24:11.000 Yeah, I'm not trying to cut you short.

02:24:13.000 I mean, if you want me to do some shows on Rome or what's going on there, I mean, obviously any of these big old institutions have got New World Order stuff going on.

02:24:21.000 I mean, Ratzinger just called for a New World Order.

02:24:23.000 Pope Benedict is his new name.

02:24:25.000 But, you know, I don't think that's where it's basically seated.

02:24:29.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Brian in Pennsylvania.

02:24:32.000 I've got to move quick now, folks.

02:24:33.000 Brian, go ahead.

02:24:34.000 Hey Alex, how are you doing?

02:24:35.000 Good.

02:24:35.000 Can you hear me?

02:24:36.000 Yes.

02:24:36.000 The question I had was where did you get this information where the Germans are going to be at these British sports events?

02:24:44.000 That has been in mainstream news articles that I saw Paul and Steve post this weekend on presentplanet.com.

02:24:52.000 It's in an article called, I believe it's Police State Promotion at World Cup.

02:24:58.000 And in there is a link to a mainstream, I believe it's BBC or Telegraph.

02:25:03.000 I believe it's one in Telegraph.

02:25:04.000 Actually, it's in the stack right here.

02:25:05.000 Let me try to dig it out during the break.

02:25:07.000 And it says there'll be German police and troops there helping the British.

02:25:12.000 And then it'll be vice versa.

02:25:14.000 Yeah, so it takes the load off of them and actually they'll do the work that the British don't want to do and they get to have their nice hands on, you know, searching illegally.

02:25:24.000 That was actually one of the questions I had for Webster.

02:25:26.000 Webster, I've read the federal documents.

02:25:28.000 I saw what happened in New Orleans, firefighting in the West.

02:25:31.000 They really are setting the precedent to use foreign mercs and foreign armies in America and in Europe.

02:25:38.000 Why is that?

02:25:40.000 I'm not sure.

02:25:41.000 I mean, I think my knowledge of the Bundeswehr, the German forces, and of the Italians is that there are people in there who are critical thinkers who might not take part in it.

02:25:53.000 So maybe they're making a wrong calculation.

02:25:54.000 I've talked to quite a number of German and Italian officers over the years, and I count some of them among my friends.

02:26:00.000 And I'm wondering whether that's going to turn out to be a positive gambit for them to play.

02:26:06.000 Well, it could be German today, German today, Chinese the next. 0.98

02:26:10.000 The point is that there's no reason to have foreign troops.

02:26:13.000 I think one way you can look at it is General Burns, right?

02:26:17.000 Kevin Burns was fired last summer when Shoemaker came to him and said, in the army that I'm going to run, we're going to have recruits who are illiterate, Who are not citizens, who don't speak English, and who have criminal records.

02:26:30.000 Now, that's the kind of foreign troops I would be afraid of. 1.00

02:26:33.000 Coming in U.S. 0.99

02:26:34.000 Army uniforms, but having those characteristics.

02:26:37.000 Oh, I agree.

02:26:37.000 Did you know that 24% of the troops in Baghdad are illegal aliens from Latin America?

02:26:42.000 I think that's quite plausible.

02:26:44.000 No, I've seen that number like in the Washington Post, I've seen it several places.

02:26:47.000 I mean, that is a foreign army right there!

02:26:49.000 That, I think, is one of the big issues of the traditionalists against the utopians in the military establishment. 0.79

02:26:56.000 Well, they admit now, what, 18% of this year's recruits are at the mean level and are literally, a few points lower, are mentally retarded. 0.93

02:27:04.000 Have you seen those numbers?

02:27:05.000 No, but I think, again, it's quite plausible.

02:27:07.000 No, it's been all over the news.

02:27:09.000 They've got ADIQs.

02:27:12.000 Well, that's exactly what Shoemaker wanted, right?

02:27:14.000 Shoemaker, who is now the head of the U.S.

02:27:16.000 Army. 1.00

02:27:17.000 So we've actually got... Folks, that's a moron! 1.00

02:27:20.000 Anything else, Brian? 1.00

02:27:22.000 It was a great point you brought up.

02:27:23.000 Quick question... Stay there, I'll let you ask on the other side.

02:27:26.000 Folks, I'm not kidding. 1.00

02:27:27.000 They actually are going to have nothing but an army of morons. 1.00

02:27:31.000 We're on the march. 1.00

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02:34:14.000 Now I want to go back to the calls quickly and go to Brian, Dean, Paula, Christopher, and Richard.

02:34:19.000 That'll be it for calls because there's so much to cover in the time we've got left.

02:34:23.000 But before we go back to these calls, any other key points that you think the listeners need to understand?

02:34:29.000 Well, I think that you've got to look ahead to these drills.

02:34:32.000 We were just talking about Global Guardian, right?

02:34:34.000 That was the one on the morning of 9-11.

02:34:37.000 After the U.S.

02:34:38.000 changed the military posture to preemption, to nuclear sneak attack, Between August and November of last year, Global Guardian was rebaptized Global Storm, Global Lightning, and that included war games, meaning nuclear war, Armageddon against Russia and North Korea.

02:34:58.000 That was all drilled out last fall.

02:35:00.000 And now we're heading into one called Global Thunder, which is set up for the springtime.

02:35:05.000 So we're looking right now at able ally, Able Warrior, which is Special Forces, and Global Thunder, which is STRATCOM, which is nuclear.

02:35:15.000 Able Ally being NATO.

02:35:17.000 And to be clear, I have no doubt that the globalists have it in their power and their will to carry out strategic attacks in America to be blamed on foreign enemies.

02:35:26.000 And that's exactly it.

02:35:27.000 So when something goes off, don't think Bin Laden, don't think caves in Afghanistan.

02:35:32.000 Think Dick Cheney.

02:35:33.000 And you will be much closer to the truth, I'm sure.

02:35:35.000 Well, he said in PNAC documents we need helpful terror attacks.

02:35:39.000 And he repeated it again in, uh, to, uh, well, he repeated it again to the Pentagon last summer, so...

02:35:44.000 We're on the verge of grave danger of contrived terrorist provocations going off.

02:35:50.000 And I want to be clear, they carry out an attack, they get the national draft.

02:35:55.000 It's about capturing America more than it is about capturing Asia. 0.94

02:35:59.000 It's about, if they have a martial law police state in place, they can then take the pension funds.

02:36:04.000 which they've changed the rules so they can do that now two years ago.

02:36:07.000 They can now take private property, which they have the Supreme Court ruling.

02:36:11.000 I mean, if you look at the picture, they are preparing to bag not just the world, but America, and so many Americans, so many good old boys I know, Webster, think they're going to be part of this system. 0.69

02:36:21.000 Well, I'm afraid some of them, you know, people, when Hitler came to power, a lot of financiers said, oh, that's just Hitler, we'll control them.

02:36:27.000 And then a lot of them ended up dead as a result of Hitler. 0.96

02:36:31.000 So it's much, much more complicated.

02:36:33.000 Again, I would think you've got to forget about the Iranian nuclear forces.

02:36:36.000 The main thing that Iran is doing that's strategic is to prepare the Iranian oil market, the oil exchange or oil bourse, where people from all around the world can buy and sell oil.

02:36:46.000 There hasn't been anything like that since 1945.

02:36:48.000 Why is Iran making inflammatory comments?

02:36:52.000 Why is their president, in my view, falling right into the hands of the globalists?

02:36:57.000 Is he looking at Kim Jong-il threatening to nuke us or Chinese generals threatening to nuke us on a weekly basis and thinking, well, that Saddam tried to play ball and he got taken out?

02:37:06.000 Is he trying to take the opposite tack?

02:37:08.000 I would condemn Ahmadinejad. 0.99

02:37:10.000 I think Ahmadinejad is an incompetent. 1.00

02:37:13.000 I think he's a fool. 0.99

02:37:15.000 The only thing we have to remember, though, is that Iran has been threatened repeatedly for a year and a half to two years by the US, by the British, and by the Israelis, left and right. 1.00

02:37:24.000 Blood-curdling threats at least once a week.

02:37:27.000 So what he has said is really simply...

02:37:30.000 Turnabout in regard to that.

02:37:32.000 I know, but he's still falling into their hands, and that's why I agree with you that he's incompetent.

02:37:35.000 But everybody gasped.

02:37:37.000 They said, if you bomb our country, we'll fire back.

02:37:40.000 And everyone's, can you believe it?

02:37:41.000 If we attack them, they'll fight back.

02:37:43.000 Have you ever heard of such evil? 0.93

02:37:45.000 That's like if somebody comes to your house and beats your wife in front of you, and you say, I'm going to punch the robber. 0.67

02:37:51.000 And they go, he's going to punch the robber. 0.98

02:37:53.000 He's bad.

02:37:54.000 I would agree, and it's clear that in this case the aggression is very unlikely to come from... How can the average American buy into that, that it's bad to fight back if you're attacked?

02:38:04.000 I don't think it's possible.

02:38:05.000 I think there's only a tremendous propaganda brainwashing.

02:38:08.000 Remember that acts of war are going on now.

02:38:10.000 The acts of war include the British are sending terrorists into southern Iran.

02:38:15.000 To blow up refineries.

02:38:16.000 There was one off last week.

02:38:18.000 They've killed dozens of people.

02:38:19.000 And these are British-trained terrorists from Basra that are being sent across the border with the tasking of blowing things up. 0.80

02:38:27.000 There are overflights.

02:38:28.000 There are teams.

02:38:29.000 There are acts of war going on all the time.

02:38:31.000 By the way, it's declassified.

02:38:33.000 They admit that our government, because BP said so, went in with Kermit Roosevelt in 1953 and bombed mosques all over the country and landed on Mozambique.

02:38:41.000 Well, now you have the Arabistan or Akhvaz province with a liberation front.

02:38:47.000 I call it the BP liberation front because the goal of this liberation front is to take the Iranian oil wells and put them back under British control where they were until Mosaddegh came along and nationalized them back in the time that you say.

02:39:01.000 So I think that's it.

02:39:02.000 And people have got to get to the point where they're sophisticated enough Not to be stampeded by synthetic terror into accepting something that's going to be the beginning of the Third World War.

02:39:12.000 You know, it's incredible. 0.97

02:39:13.000 I mean, Dick Cheney and others say, we'll nuke you, we'll kill you, we'll blow your cities up. 0.99

02:39:17.000 And then they say the same thing back. 0.99

02:39:19.000 And it's like, can you believe them?

02:39:21.000 We said we'll nuke them, and they said they'll fight back with little conventional rockets.

02:39:25.000 We said we'll bomb them, and they said they might fight.

02:39:28.000 I've never heard of something so evil.

02:39:31.000 And I think it's very important for traditionalists and conservatives inside the U.S. military to make their voices heard now in any way that they can, that this should not take place.

02:39:41.000 There is no reason for this, and it is an act of incalculable folly to court war with Iran. 0.96

02:39:48.000 You know, you call it folly.

02:39:49.000 I think the globalists want to get us into something really rough. 1.00

02:39:53.000 Well, again, I think they're stupid, incompetent people. 1.00

02:39:57.000 They calculate wrong. 1.00

02:39:59.000 They think they're conquering the world.

02:40:00.000 I don't think they're going to conquer the world ever.

02:40:03.000 See, I think the globalists above them, and I've seen the documents on this, are letting America play the part of the bad cop right now, grab what assets they can, then the globalist minions hand it off to their bosses in Europe, and then America takes the blame, and then the whole program just moves forward.

02:40:18.000 It could well be, but I think the imperative thing to see right now is that the people who are going to carry this out in the U.S.

02:40:24.000 military, are going to be in an extraordinarily critical situation and there is no reason for this and it should not happen.

02:40:30.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:40:31.000 MRSA is saying, obviously, that they're in total civil war.

02:40:34.000 They have Woodruff, the ABC anchor, getting shrapneled in bad condition.

02:40:39.000 I mean, we have all... I mean, that place is imploding.

02:40:42.000 And then I read an Israeli document in 1983 saying they want it in three to four parts, broken up.

02:40:47.000 That's the goal.

02:40:47.000 I read Pentagon documents, P2OG saying that.

02:40:50.000 But then I have Yes, because it's gotten even worse than what the Pentagon wanted.

02:40:55.000 Well, the plan is a punitive expedition of destroying certain scientific areas with the nuclear conventional bombing and liberation fronts.

02:41:04.000 Remember, they've got Iran today. 1.00

02:41:05.000 They're going to make that into Balochistan, Turkmenistan, Arabistan, Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, and then So it's the same thing, it's the same thing, breaking up Iraq in three to four parts, breaking up Iran in three to four parts, it's a stated goal, and our governments have people in there bombing them, admittedly, right now, and then they're supposed to just sit there and take it. 0.87

02:41:27.000 And that's the Bernard Lewis plan.

02:41:29.000 Well, I agree, no, no, they should take it. 0.98

02:41:31.000 If our government nukes them, they should say thank you, and they should never talk back, and they should accept being shot and killed, and I think that they're evil.

02:41:39.000 Well, if you don't want peace, then you're in effect choosing war, and then all of the terrible effects of war.

02:41:46.000 And in modern times, we see that when you go into a war, you never can calculate... Well, how dare Iran not want the British in their bombings right now? 0.93

02:41:53.000 I mean, what's wrong with it?

02:41:53.000 That's friendly!

02:41:55.000 Well, the British forces in southern Iraq are, as one of their admirals said a couple of weeks ago, Sir Alan West, You said we should not allow the attack on Iran to take place, because if it does happen, the British forces in Basra can be virtually wiped out.

02:42:13.000 And I think that would extend to all of the foreign forces in Iran.

02:42:16.000 But see, I think it's going to be like with Japan and the ten-part plan. 1.00

02:42:19.000 They mean for the forces to get rolled back, and it looks bad.

02:42:22.000 Well, America's getting whooped!

02:42:23.000 Oh, a nuke just went off!

02:42:25.000 They just hit us!

02:42:25.000 We gotta get in there now!

02:42:26.000 Come on, America! 1.00

02:42:29.000 We're gonna get Tahoe now! 0.71

02:42:30.000 I'm gonna send my kids off and get blown to bits!

02:42:34.000 Well, all the more reason not to go down this path, I would say. 0.93

02:42:37.000 You know what?

02:42:37.000 We're on the edge of Armageddon, folks.

02:42:39.000 I just hope you know that.

02:42:40.000 And these phony bought-off churches are on the government payroll.

02:42:43.000 They're telling you it's all great.

02:42:45.000 Let's go ahead and take another call.

02:42:47.000 Brian, finish up your question quickly.

02:42:48.000 I've got to move.

02:42:49.000 I'm sorry.

02:42:50.000 Go ahead, Brian.

02:42:51.000 The second question I had was, did you hear the source about the Homeland Security informing the bank with We're the uh... there's no doubt that it will have a list of banks that are in these uh... cd state deposit boxes.

02:43:03.000 Yeah, I haven't, I don't know about that particular thing that's out there on the web, but I do know under Homeland Security rules that they will seize your state deposit boxes and they did it in 1933 with the War Powers Act, so none of this is new.

02:43:18.000 Thanks for the call.

02:43:19.000 Let's talk to Dean in Illinois.

02:43:21.000 Dean, you're on the air.

02:43:21.000 Go ahead.

02:43:23.000 Hello?

02:43:23.000 Yes, sir.

02:43:24.000 Sir, it's an honor and a pleasure to meet you.

02:43:26.000 It is not an honor.

02:43:28.000 It's an honor to talk to you.

02:43:29.000 Go ahead.

02:43:30.000 I just wanted to talk to you about gun control.

02:43:34.000 I think it's common propaganda.

02:43:37.000 Well, I mean, Hitler was for it, the Ku Klux Klan got the first gun control laws passed in this country, and somehow people think it's liberal to turn their guns into the government. 0.75

02:43:47.000 I say it's a recipe for disaster.

02:43:49.000 Guns are an insurance policy. 0.96

02:43:52.000 Guns are a keystone.

02:43:54.000 When you have an armed population, you never can have a total tyranny.

02:43:59.000 And Bush has done more for gun control than any Democrat before him, according to Bob Barr, who was on this broadcast, and he's on the board of the NRA.

02:44:07.000 comment from Webster Tarbley on that.

02:44:08.000 I would just, I would go with the Constitution.

02:44:11.000 The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be impaired as long as it's well regulated.

02:44:15.000 That's all you need.

02:44:16.000 All right, go ahead.

02:44:17.000 Anything else, caller? 0.97

02:44:19.000 Yes, and I have a friend who was debating with a school teacher, and the school teacher was making him look like a fool because he was arguing for guns. 0.90

02:44:27.000 No, he was. 0.94

02:44:30.000 Well, I mean, look, you have a mafia, you have a mafia, if you're there in Chicago and own mob boss running Do you think the mafia wants you to be armed?

02:44:38.000 Nope.

02:44:40.000 I mean, your state is not issuing the gun owner cards and then coming and arresting people when the state itself didn't issue the cards, and the state has ruled, it doesn't matter if we're the ones that didn't issue the cards, we're still going to come arrest you.

02:44:55.000 So it's their fault, and then you get arrested.

02:45:01.000 Yes, I totally agree with you. 0.98

02:45:02.000 Dean, it's disgusting. 0.63

02:45:03.000 How do you listen to us in Illinois? 0.97

02:45:05.000 How do I listen to you?

02:45:07.000 Yes, sir.

02:45:09.000 I know we have a lot of affiliates there at 101 AM station.

02:45:12.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

02:45:14.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:45:17.000 I forget the name.

02:45:19.000 You know, it's okay.

02:45:21.000 Listen, I forget to ask the listeners what station they're listening to, so thanks for the call.

02:45:24.000 I'm just really excited to have, what is it, four or five stations now in Illinois.

02:45:28.000 You know, Webster, I go back to this.

02:45:30.000 It's the best news we've got.

02:45:31.000 I don't put on an act here.

02:45:33.000 I'm just a real guy with real news, with real guests.

02:45:36.000 And so many stations are turning us on.

02:45:39.000 So many mainstream people are now listening.

02:45:42.000 So many people... I mean, frankly, I don't find hardly anyone that disagrees anymore.

02:45:46.000 It's like people instinctively know that we're in deep trouble.

02:45:50.000 I think so, and I have to congratulate you on your growth.

02:45:52.000 You're a great voice and a great cause, and people need to be made aware and educated, and you've done a tremendous contribution on that in the past several years.

02:46:02.000 Well, let me just say this.

02:46:03.000 I can't hardly listen to myself sometimes.

02:46:05.000 Sometimes I listen, it sounds great.

02:46:06.000 Sometimes it doesn't.

02:46:08.000 I'm not arrogant.

02:46:09.000 It sounds like I'm arrogant.

02:46:10.000 I'm just upset and aggressive.

02:46:12.000 But I think people know, they can tell, that it's genuine what I'm saying, what I'm doing.

02:46:16.000 They check out what we say.

02:46:18.000 But it isn't about Alex Jones.

02:46:19.000 To have so many people listening to me is very, very humbling, Webster.

02:46:23.000 But it also gives me hope.

02:46:24.000 And I laid in bed last night thinking, man, I want to do a good job tomorrow.

02:46:28.000 I want to make sure Webster gets to make all his points.

02:46:30.000 I want to try to cover all the news.

02:46:32.000 But, I mean, do you ever get the feeling of frustration that there's so much evidence, Webster?

02:46:37.000 Well, sometimes it becomes overwhelming.

02:46:39.000 I think it's important It's important to have information, but beyond the information, there has to be a philosophical method, in other words, a way of looking at the world and an understanding of the main things that are going on right now, which I think are a very severe economic and financial depression, financial crisis everywhere, and that somehow that is fueling this drive towards police states, totalitarian authoritarian regimes, and towards a new world war.

02:47:05.000 And if you can keep all that, and I think you do, And people need to hear about it every day in new forms, then I think you can put all the various facts that come in every day into the proper perspective.

02:47:17.000 Exactly, you've got to have the proper lens or it's all just garbage.

02:47:21.000 Once you know the program, once you know the goal, Because people think, well, why do they want a police state?

02:47:25.000 What for?

02:47:26.000 Well, number one, they're going to own the private companies that they give bids to themselves.

02:47:31.000 It's corporate welfare.

02:47:32.000 Number two, they want to do a lot of horrible things financially to you that they know you're not going to put up with.

02:47:37.000 Number three, they want power and control.

02:47:39.000 Number four, they're gangsters.

02:47:40.000 They want to be armed to protect themselves against all the other gangsters.

02:47:44.000 That's why they want a world government. 0.97

02:47:45.000 I mean, they want to secure and expand their power.

02:47:48.000 I would say also in regard to Iran today, Since 1945, the only way you could get oil was by having dollars.

02:47:54.000 Now, if Iran opens this oil bourse, you're going to be able to do that with euros, or I think with other currencies, too.

02:48:00.000 Maybe even with gold.

02:48:01.000 You're talking about a mercantile!

02:48:03.000 I'm talking about the Iranian oil bourse, so that you can buy it in some other way.

02:48:08.000 So you don't have to go to London, you don't have to go to New York, or one of their branches... By the layman you mean, no longer will the petrodollar be a dollar?

02:48:15.000 Yes, you'll have a petroyuro competing with the petrodollar, and that at least gives people the chance to play one against the other, so they're somewhat better off.

02:48:22.000 And now we have China dumping the dollar, incrementally.

02:48:26.000 It's all very, very serious, ladies and gentlemen.

02:48:29.000 Meanwhile, the cops want to pull you over and search your car while the border is wide open. 0.92

02:48:33.000 It's just absolutely ridiculous.

02:48:35.000 They're looking for drugs that the government shipped in to begin with.

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02:51:37.000 Well, I won't back down.

02:51:51.000 No, I won't back down. 0.97

02:51:56.000 You can stand me up at the gates of hell.

02:52:00.000 All right, folks, we're back live talking to Webster Tarpley.

02:52:03.000 Christopher in Michigan, you're on the air.

02:52:06.000 Go ahead, my friend.

02:52:07.000 I just wanted to say thank you to all the listeners, you, Alex, and your guests here.

02:52:14.000 Thank you very much.

02:52:16.000 That's it, Christopher?

02:52:17.000 That's all I have to say.

02:52:19.000 Everyone who's listening, they know what's up.

02:52:21.000 They're going to be the best fighters in this fight.

02:52:24.000 Either with them or against them. 0.98

02:52:26.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

02:52:29.000 Being strong and not selling themselves out to the devil. 0.50

02:52:32.000 Thank you, Christopher.

02:52:33.000 Webster, isn't it becoming ridiculously obvious, though, how many times you've caught them lying, how many things they've done, all the bid rigging and war profiteering and the Democrats all being owned by the same people?

02:52:44.000 I mean, aren't Americans really being given a choice right now like we never have before?

02:52:48.000 It's being made so obvious.

02:52:50.000 I think especially on this question of the relation of drills and terrorism, this is the time when that kind of education can really Make a difference, right?

02:52:59.000 We've seen, for example, the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.

02:53:04.000 There was a White House presidential succession drill of the nine live series being done.

02:53:11.000 We had HILAC-75, which was a possible nuclear confrontation with the Soviets.

02:53:18.000 We had Able Archer 83, which was so realistic, the Soviets thought it was the real thing, and went to Red Alert.

02:53:24.000 Then we've had London on 7-7, we've had September 11th, We know that if terrorist provocations come, there's a very high probability that they're going to be conduited and bootlegged through the military and security apparatus of the government.

02:53:40.000 And that's what you have to look for.

02:53:41.000 So you've got to go to those websites, and there are volunteers who do this.

02:53:44.000 There are citizen observers.

02:53:48.000 Who find out these things, put them up on the web, denounce them, expose them.

02:53:53.000 And again, these drills are key because they use it as operational cover with the compartmentalization inside the government because they have to use government assets.

02:54:02.000 It's a telltale sign, a key indicator.

02:54:05.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Paula in Florida. 0.63

02:54:07.000 Paula, go ahead. 0.99

02:54:08.000 Hi Alex, I'll tell you hon, you have every right to be angry. 0.99

02:54:11.000 I mean, everybody's, you know, it's becoming just like you.

02:54:15.000 I mean, you are helping so many.

02:54:17.000 And we're having everybody get a hold of your program.

02:54:21.000 We're calling radio stations trying to get you on with them.

02:54:24.000 And I'll tell you what, God's children have got to stand up and fight.

02:54:27.000 That's all there is to it, just like that gentleman said.

02:54:29.000 And if we don't...

02:54:30.000 It's all going to be over with, but I think we have the power.

02:54:32.000 There's more of us than there are of them.

02:54:34.000 Well, unfortunately, I'm a Christian myself, but so many of the churches have been bought off by the federal government and other groups that they tell people, lay down, don't get involved.

02:54:42.000 That's the complete opposite of what the Bible teaches.

02:54:45.000 Webster, comments on that?

02:54:47.000 I think so, and I think you can forget about the usual political categories of left and right, because those don't work.

02:54:54.000 You have an opposition among You have enough conservatives, you have enough opposition among libertarians, and also among leftists, quite frankly.

02:55:03.000 Exactly.

02:55:03.000 It brings it all together.

02:55:05.000 Because this is forcing people to grow up.

02:55:08.000 This is forcing people to get past all these terms and get right down to the nitty-gritty.

02:55:12.000 We've got a corrupt elite that's out of control, that's gotten away with so much they think they're bulletproof.

02:55:17.000 And they're trying to roll us into a global crisis that they think they're going to win in and get even more power at our expense.

02:55:24.000 We've got to stop it.

02:55:26.000 Paula, thank you for joining us.

02:55:28.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley, I've got to get you on in the next few months.

02:55:32.000 We always have you on a couple times a year, but I want to get you on even sooner.

02:55:35.000 Tarpley.net or go to InfoWars.com to get his new book, the second edition of 9-1-1 Synthetic Terror Made in the USA.

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02:55:59.000 Webster, thank you so much for spending two hours with us.

02:56:02.000 My pleasure.

02:56:02.000 See you soon.

02:56:03.000 I'll be waiting for you to call.

02:56:05.000 Keep up your amazing work.

02:56:07.000 Vaya con Dios.

02:56:08.000 Folks, he is so on.

02:56:09.000 There's so many other 9-11 researchers that get a lot of it right, but not all of it.

02:56:13.000 I mean, he is just Exactly on target with my analysis.

02:56:17.000 Take care, folks.

Alex Jones Show - January 30, 2006

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