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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, my friends. my friends.

00:00:41.000 Thank you for joining us on this 21st day of February 2006.

00:00:47.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:49.000 We're going to be here for the next three hours.

00:00:52.000 A routine guest, a regular guest, who we have on always with important information.

00:00:59.000 ...is Paul Craig Roberts.

00:01:02.000 And Paul Craig Roberts was number two at the Department of Treasury under Ronald Reagan and one of the chief architects of Ronald Reagan's policies.

00:01:12.000 And he says that we're in danger of going into total police state, total martial law.

00:01:17.000 And he's reported on a meeting where Viet Dinh, one of the former minions under Ashcroft, has said that basically the president being a dictator is good.

00:01:26.000 And then Bob Barr got up and said it was bad and he was booed off the stage.

00:01:31.000 So, Paul Craig Roberts will join us for 30 minutes, the last half of this hour, coming up in under a half hour from now.

00:01:40.000 Then we have a professor coming on that thinks Texas Independence is bad, the celebration of it is bad, the way the Alamos presented it is bad.

00:01:48.000 He doesn't like this sports team down at a school in Houston that is called 1836, and so he'll be joining us for 30 minutes as well to talk about Well, I guess the Larry Conquista and his whole view of that.

00:02:05.000 So that is coming up later in the next hour.

00:02:13.000 Now, in the meantime, conservatives are endorsing the Fuhrer principle I mentioned while Paul Greg Roberts was coming on.

00:02:20.000 Our leader, Uber Alice, last week's annual Conservative Political Action Conference signaled the transformation of American conservatism into brown shirtism.

00:02:31.000 A former Justice Department official named Viet Dinh got a standing ovation when he told the CPAC audience that the rule of law mustn't get in the way of President Bush's protecting Americans from Osama Bin Laden.

00:02:48.000 Former Republican Congressman Bob Barr, who led the House impeachment, President Bill Clinton, reminded the CPAC audience that our first loyalty is the U.S.

00:02:58.000 Constitution, not to a leader.

00:03:00.000 The question, Barr said, is not only one of disloyalty to Lord Bush, but whether America will remain a nation subject to a government governed by law, the rule of law, or the whim of men.

00:03:12.000 The CPAC audience answered the question by booing him off the stage.

00:03:20.000 So that's where they're at.

00:03:21.000 I mean, they sense the power.

00:03:23.000 They want to rule.

00:03:24.000 They want to be minions of a dictator.

00:03:26.000 They want the largesse and the patronage that comes from a king.

00:03:30.000 And we are getting a king.

00:03:32.000 The office is being turned into an imperial kingship, and Hillary Clinton, Condi Rice, it doesn't matter who steps into that puppet throne, they will be puppet thrones, just like the Shah was a puppet of British Petroleum.

00:03:44.000 But, nevertheless, they will have kingly powers.

00:03:48.000 And there is no doubt that's what's being announced.

00:03:50.000 So, we'll get into this in about 30 minutes.

00:03:53.000 Also, U.S.

00:03:54.000 media drops Abu Ghraib torture issue.

00:03:56.000 It's just a minor footnote now.

00:03:59.000 And it's been confirmed that This is not a joke that 1,000 people are being tortured to death a day.

00:04:07.000 That's even what the UN monitors are saying.

00:04:10.000 It's in foreign newspapers, not Arab newspapers, foreign newspapers, that it's 1,000 being tortured a day.

00:04:17.000 I find that even hard to believe, but it is an assembly line of carnage and mass murder.

00:04:24.000 Freedom!

00:04:25.000 But don't worry, you'll get a taste of it here soon enough.

00:04:27.000 The dictatorship's coming for you.

00:04:29.000 Don't worry.

00:04:29.000 You want to be part of all this?

00:04:31.000 Don't worry, you'll get to be part of it.

00:04:34.000 Memo that warned about titanium use torture was thwarted.

00:04:37.000 We'll get into that.

00:04:38.000 GOP governors threatened to block the port deal for United Arab Emirates and much more.

00:04:44.000 DU is showing up in Europe, England, and the US.

00:04:48.000 Radiation levels at record level.

00:04:51.000 And they've gone and checked the isotope, it's the DU, so breathe heartily.

00:04:56.000 What the Iraqis get to enjoy, we get to enjoy.

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00:08:07.000 Well, coming up in the next hour, Raul A. Ramos, University of Houston professor, who opposes the naming of a soccer team, the Houston 1836s, after the Texas Revolution, the Houston 1836s, after the Texas Revolution, suggesting the title is racially biased.

00:08:29.000 And of course, that is total propaganda.

00:08:31.000 The writer of the Texas Constitution was Spanish, was Hispanic.

00:08:37.000 Of course, about a third of the individuals who fought for Texas independence were former Mexicans.

00:08:43.000 In fact, everybody was, for that matter, even the whites that had come in. 0.96

00:08:47.000 Mexico had been trying to sell this territory to the United States, and they were haggling back and forth over the price with the then President Andrew Jackson.

00:08:59.000 So this is what was really going on.

00:09:02.000 And you had what, depending on the report, 5,000 to 6,000 Mexican troops, trouncing 183 or 186 Texans, and simply one woman and one baby surviving.

00:09:16.000 And you had a lot of Hispanics, i.e.

00:09:19.000 Mexicans, who were of mixed origin, that is Native American and Spanish.

00:09:26.000 Who died at the Alamo.

00:09:28.000 But we're not supposed to talk about that.

00:09:30.000 No, they want to make it racial. 0.76

00:09:34.000 They're actually the race pimps. 0.99

00:09:36.000 People like Raul A. Ramos.

00:09:39.000 I mean, Texas independence has never been about race.

00:09:43.000 In fact, the Mexican people, a few years later, overthrew Santa Ana.

00:09:47.000 He was a dictator.

00:09:50.000 But, see, I am, I guess, kind of cursed that I'm into history, so I've read Not a lot.

00:09:56.000 I probably only read about, I don't know, six, seven, eight books and a few hundred articles and historical letters about the Texas Revolution and just about the politics of the US and Mexico and Spain at that time.

00:10:12.000 You see, I've read books about Andrew Jackson.

00:10:13.000 I've read books about Santa Ana.

00:10:15.000 I've read three or four books about the Alamo.

00:10:16.000 I've read a couple books about Texas independence.

00:10:19.000 And I'm not trying to toot my horn here, but on my mother's side of the family, we raised, of course, Colonel Travis's son.

00:10:26.000 When you see in the stupid new Alamo movie they made, one of the few historical things in there is, well it is true that Sam Houston liked to drink, that's true too, but is that scene where Colonel Travis leaves his son with the Ayers family.

00:10:43.000 My point is, I know Texas history. 0.99

00:10:46.000 And when you started getting this fight between Mexicans and whites, and when you really started seeing more racism by whites against Hispanics, was after the German government tried an extermination program to kill all whites in South Texas. 0.86

00:11:02.000 The German military went in and funded, during World War I, this is mainstream news, I mean Hispanic scholars, UT professors, who just happen to be Hispanic, have written books about this, a plan to kill all the whites. 0.96

00:11:16.000 Of course, it was the white Germans funding it. 0.96

00:11:18.000 And then in World War II, Hitler tried it again. 0.89

00:11:20.000 There were mass murders that made Charlie Manson's cutting the baby out look tame.

00:11:25.000 I mean, in one night, Mexicans killed, what was it, 22 whites.

00:11:31.000 I mean, whole families. 0.99

00:11:32.000 They would butcher them all. 0.99

00:11:33.000 They were supposed to only kill white males 16 and above, and that's where a lot of it really started. 0.95

00:11:41.000 Frankly, the Czech communities, the Polish communities, the German communities, intermarried with the Mexicans, and that's where you get the Polka turning into Tejano, and everybody got along just fine.

00:11:53.000 Well, not anymore, not with the social engineers, and so for the crowds out there like Rule A Ramos, who, you know, want to claim all this is racial, well, okay, maybe it is on your end, buddy.

00:12:06.000 Because I don't care.

00:12:07.000 I mean, again, a lot of my friends and then the people joke, oh, that's really code for racism.

00:12:11.000 See, everything's racism. 0.95

00:12:13.000 If I don't sit here and say I'm bad and say I'm evil and say whites are the devil and say Texas is evil and say America's bad, I'm a racist. 0.99

00:12:21.000 And that's pure baloney. 0.99

00:12:23.000 I'm already ranting, ladies and gentlemen. 0.75

00:12:25.000 I'm already ranting.

00:12:27.000 But you better not name a team I mean, they got so many soccer teams that are called the Mexicans, or called the Zapatistas, or called the Pancho Villas.

00:12:40.000 I mean, they have all those soccer teams here.

00:12:42.000 Why can't a school, by the way, predominantly Hispanic, have the 1836ers? 0.99

00:12:47.000 Why can't they take on that pride of this being America?

00:12:51.000 And by the way, Texas had been held by France, it had been held by the Spanish, then it was held by Mexico, then it was held by the Texans, then it was held by the United States, then it was held by the Confederacy, and then it was held again by the United States.

00:13:07.000 Hence the six flags of Texas.

00:13:09.000 That's why they named the amusement park that.

00:13:12.000 The Mexican government couldn't hold a town in this state.

00:13:16.000 The Mexicans were being run out, that is the Mexicans for Mexico proper, were being run out by the Comanche and others. 1.00

00:13:24.000 They could not hold this state by the Red Sticks and by others. 0.56

00:13:28.000 They could, the Baton Rouges, as the French call them.

00:13:31.000 They could not keep any of their settlements, so they called in Tennesseans and people from Kentucky and Alabama.

00:13:38.000 They begged settlers to come in, and then a dictator took over named Santa Ana, and he said, you're my peons, and I'm taking the land back Spain gave you, and I'm taking your guns, and you're going to be my slaves.

00:13:53.000 And they said, you know what?

00:13:54.000 Come and take it at Gonzales, Texas.

00:13:56.000 We're on the radio right now.

00:13:58.000 In South Central Texas.

00:14:00.000 Got a great affiliate right there, in Gonzales.

00:14:03.000 And it was Hispanics with whites who drove off the Mexican Army there in Gonzales and it was on. 0.99

00:14:09.000 And how dare a bunch of revisionists try to demonize the beautiful Texas history and try to lie about it. 0.99

00:14:17.000 Believe me, this professor isn't stupid. 1.00

00:14:19.000 He sounds like a friendly guy on the phone, so he's coming on and we're gonna, we're gonna, cause see, I'm not one of these stupid students that doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. 1.00

00:14:28.000 I'm not one of these stupid students who can just have their head filled with up is down and down is up and black is white and white is black. 0.99

00:14:36.000 I happen to know a little bit about history. 1.00

00:14:38.000 From both sides.

00:14:39.000 I always study multiple angles of it.

00:14:42.000 And it's just... Hispanics are being robbed of being the fathers of Texas.

00:14:50.000 Literally.

00:14:52.000 Hispanics are being robbed of their heritage, and you just let the media and the government rob you of your heritage?

00:14:57.000 Well, good news!

00:14:58.000 Most Hispanics aren't letting the media rob you of your heritage.

00:15:01.000 They don't want you to feel like you're welcome.

00:15:03.000 They don't want you to feel like that you're part of Texas.

00:15:06.000 They don't want you to feel that sovereignty.

00:15:08.000 They don't want you to feel that peace of America.

00:15:10.000 They want you to think that you're tied to the slave state, to our South, run by narco-terrorists. 0.96

00:15:19.000 In the hip pocket of the federal government in New York City?

00:15:24.000 Alright, see, I'm already ranting.

00:15:25.000 I've got Raul A. Ramos coming up later.

00:15:27.000 Let me just get into some of the news right now.

00:15:30.000 The media is totally ignoring the second wave of Abu Ghraib photos with more people beaten to death, people with cigar burns all over them, dog bite wounds all over them.

00:15:39.000 I mean, this is Mingola, Nazi-type stuff the White House is trying to cover up all the torture memos, but Bush is signing that 2002 memo saying you can torture people to death.

00:15:50.000 That is part of the public record.

00:15:52.000 They're trying to retroactively now classify a host of documents on NSA, on torture, on all of it.

00:15:58.000 So claiming stuff that's already in the newspapers now classified.

00:16:01.000 Meanwhile, Paul Watson has done another fabulous job with his analysis.

00:16:06.000 One thousand a month torture.

00:16:07.000 I said a day last segment.

00:16:09.000 I got that off.

00:16:11.000 1,000 a month tortured to death in Iraq, Dr. John Pace drops a bombshell that translates as a whisper through obscure Maltese paper.

00:16:22.000 Proving that Abu Ghraib and Gitmo are the tip of the iceberg, the outgoing UN Human Rights Chief dropped a bombshell when he told an obscure Maltese newspaper that as many as 1,000 detainees a month are being tortured to death in Iraq.

00:16:33.000 That makes sense.

00:16:34.000 That number fits.

00:16:35.000 Dr. John Pace told the obscure Times of Malta newspaper that the Baghdad morgue received 1,100 bodies in June alone, about 900 of whom bore evidence of torture or summary execution.

00:16:47.000 Yeah, they have huge torture camps, all the old Ba'athist camps. 0.98

00:16:51.000 The continued throughout the year and last December there were 780 bodies including 400 having gunshot wounds or wounds as those caused by electric drills.

00:17:03.000 So they're drilling kneecaps, folks. 0.99

00:17:05.000 Yeah, but don't worry, you can go see a stupid movie like Delta Force with Chuck Norris and he'll be, it'll be the evil Arabs drilling kneecaps. 1.00

00:17:15.000 You see, but so you can feel like they're all evil, but in reality, no, it's our loving government with its Arabs drilling kneecaps. 1.00

00:17:23.000 Pace echoed previous statements in stating that 80 to 90 percent of those rounded up and taken to prison camps were completely innocent.

00:17:29.000 As we have highlighted before, Iraqis are arrested for dasherly crimes such as not showing their papers at checkpoints, selling alcohol, or shouting anti-coalition statements. 0.66

00:17:39.000 We have links to AP articles On all of that.

00:17:41.000 Caught selling beer.

00:17:42.000 You have a hood put on your head and you're brought back to your wife five days later.

00:17:45.000 Beaten to death with electric drill holes and cigarette burns from end to end.

00:17:50.000 Because certain U.S.

00:17:51.000 companies have the monopoly on the liquor sales.

00:17:53.000 You're gonna learn.

00:17:54.000 You understand, boy?

00:17:56.000 Footage of U.S.

00:17:57.000 Army personnel seizing a taxi cab and destroying it with an army tank was broadcast two years ago.

00:18:03.000 The crime?

00:18:04.000 Allegedly stealing a piece of firewood off the side of the road.

00:18:07.000 Regular bombing raids that indiscriminately target large groups of what appear to be protesters have also been circulated on the internet.

00:18:14.000 Pace comments underline the fact that Abu Ghraib is just one of many torture camps, one of 32, we've had Janice Karpinski, head general on about them, that have been used throughout the country since the liberation of Iraq and the so-called end of Saddam Hussein's brutal regime of rape rooms and torture camps.

00:18:29.000 And it is tame in comparison to the real horrors taking place beneath the media radar.

00:18:34.000 More than half of the Iraqis now say their life is better off under Saddam and 47% support insurgent attacks on US forces.

00:18:43.000 I hear the neocons calling talk radio going, They love us!

00:18:46.000 They love us!

00:18:48.000 It's all liberal laws!

00:18:50.000 The liberal media won't talk about our successes!

00:18:54.000 Let me tell you something.

00:18:56.000 The so-called liberal media is run by the Pentagon.

00:18:58.000 It has to at least fool some of the liberals that, you know, all isn't lost.

00:19:02.000 And it's actually pumping out propaganda that all is well.

00:19:06.000 You call Pentagon propaganda.

00:19:09.000 You call Pentagon propaganda left-wing?

00:19:12.000 Boy, you got something to learn.

00:19:13.000 No, it's made to look on the surface like it's liberal, so that liberals will buy into it.

00:19:19.000 When you really analyze it, it's pure propaganda.

00:19:23.000 But that don't matter.

00:19:24.000 Well, so what if the Pentagon lies to us?

00:19:26.000 They need to.

00:19:27.000 I've heard that, too.

00:19:29.000 So what, Alex?

00:19:29.000 That's just war.

00:19:31.000 We need to let them lie to us.

00:19:32.000 So what if they admit they plant fake news stories here and overseas?

00:19:35.000 That's freedom!

00:19:37.000 So, they spent 1.6 billion buying off the newspapers and TV.

00:19:41.000 Doesn't matter if the GAO says it's illegal, Governmental Accounting Office.

00:19:45.000 You know, we gotta get caught here.

00:19:47.000 The terrorists hit us, man. 1.00

00:19:49.000 Terrorists, terrorists.

00:19:50.000 Hey, the CIA's website says they carry out the terror attacks.

00:19:53.000 Will you go there? 1.00

00:19:54.000 No, you're a liar. 1.00

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00:24:28.000 Bush, on a daily basis, through his surrogates, his minions, his shills, and then even himself, is giving us a Declaration of Tyranny, a Declaration of Dictatorship.

00:24:41.000 And this is really scary, the stuff that's coming up with Paul Craig Roberts.

00:24:45.000 But I thought I'd play this little two-minute clip, the new trailer for V for Vendetta.

00:24:49.000 Because it mirrors pretty much what's happening today.

00:24:54.000 The government's killing the population with a bioweapon they're using.

00:24:58.000 And of course they blame that on terrorists.

00:25:00.000 And there's someone secretly going around taking out the elite in the Big Brother world.

00:25:05.000 Lots of police stomping around in black ski masks.

00:25:08.000 Remember, remember.

00:25:10.000 V for Vendetta.

00:25:11.000 Here it is.

00:25:13.000 I wish I wasn't afraid all the time, but... I am.

00:25:19.000 People should not be afraid of their governments.

00:25:28.000 Governments should be afraid of their people.

00:25:32.000 Those caught in violation of curfew will be prosecuted without leniency or exception.

00:25:46.000 It's past curfews, eh?

00:25:47.000 Hey! 0.99

00:25:48.000 Have mercy.

00:26:01.000 Oh, not tonight.

00:26:06.000 Who are you?

00:26:09.000 Gentlemen, I want this terrorist, pal.

00:26:11.000 And I want him to understand what terror really means.

00:26:16.000 We're working on several leads.

00:26:18.000 Her parents were detained when she was 12.

00:26:20.000 It was like those black bags erased them from the face of the earth.

00:26:26.000 You have one chance.

00:26:28.000 You must tell us the whereabouts of code name V. If our own government was responsible for the deaths of 100,000 people... You really want to know?

00:26:41.000 Those who are responsible will be held accountable.

00:26:45.000 The time has come for you to live without fear.

00:26:48.000 I'm ready.

00:26:51.000 This country stands on the edge of oblivion.

00:26:53.000 I have everything to remember why they need us! 1.00

00:26:59.000 Kill him. 1.00

00:27:00.000 My turn. 1.00

00:27:04.000 I still have this feeling that everything is connected.

00:27:16.000 We're all part of it.

00:27:22.000 Are we ready for it?

00:27:23.000 The only verdict is vengeance.

00:27:29.000 Well, I've never even seen that trailer.

00:27:36.000 I've seen a trailer up there that was a lot shorter, but that one was even more interesting.

00:27:42.000 The government's involved in terrorizing its own population, carrying out terror attacks, and they're all wearing black ski masks, and it's a Big Brother type surveillance society.

00:27:52.000 Welcome to the real world.

00:27:53.000 Here's some of the other news.

00:27:57.000 Bank for International Settlements calls for global currency.

00:28:00.000 Nazi bankrollers, that's the same company, same group, want elimination of national sovereignty for world cashless control grid. 0.98

00:28:09.000 And the Bank of International Settlements is the main policy guide for the World Bank, the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, the Ex-Im Bank, and then of course the fellow Reserve Bank, the Bank of England, the Bank of Germany, and others.

00:28:24.000 And they are openly Calling here, London Telegraph reporting, Paul Watson doing more analysis on it, for your world currency.

00:28:32.000 They say they're going to merge the EU and the Pan-American currencies together with the Asian currencies.

00:28:37.000 And of course they're going to claim that unstableness between the currencies Is needed.

00:28:43.000 Now, of course, I told you 12 years ago when I first got on air, or I guess about 10 or 11 years ago when I first started covering this, that this was the plan.

00:28:51.000 Because it was in public policy reports that they're going to have the American Union, the EU, European Union, the Asian Union.

00:28:51.000 How did I know?

00:29:00.000 With the African Union kind of being a little vassal of the three, with the neo-colonialism, and that they're going to then play the currencies off against each other, causing booms and busts, and then, oh, it will fix all of our problems if we just have a worldwide currency. 0.98

00:29:19.000 And now you can go read it, of course.

00:29:21.000 Your professor at school, if you bring up a world wide currency, will say it's a conspiracy theorist.

00:29:26.000 I have the big Harvard newspaper last year saying anyone that talks about a world currency, that it's code word for racism, folks.

00:29:34.000 Yes, it's all code.

00:29:35.000 When you talk about tyranny, it's code, too.

00:29:37.000 It's just, don't talk about freedom.

00:29:39.000 It's evil.

00:29:42.000 Paul Craig Roberts coming up.

00:29:43.000 We'll go ahead and get him on the horn.

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00:36:23.000 Alright, going to our guest, Well, I'm always honored to have on with us.

00:36:26.000 He wrote this article.

00:36:28.000 Conservatives endorse the Fuhrer principle.

00:36:31.000 Our leader, Uber Alice, and last week's annual Conservative Political Action Conference had Viet Dinh, who I've confronted here in Austin, he was the minion under Ashcroft, helped write the Patriot Act, the Patriot Act 2, and he said that, hey, we've got to just forget the rule of law and the Constitution to keep us safe from terrorism, as if that does that. 0.71

00:36:51.000 And then Bob Barr, who said we're in danger of going into a police state a month ago on this broadcast, and who has said Bush is more anti-gun than Clinton, by the way, he got up and said, no, we should never do that, and was booed off the stage and basically hissed at by a bunch of Republican elite and then Republican cronies and bootlickers.

00:37:10.000 Paul Craig Roberts, you've reported on this.

00:37:13.000 Thank you for coming on to talk about the Fuhrer principle or Bush's declaration of dictatorship.

00:37:19.000 Hey, Alex.

00:37:21.000 Good to have you here with us.

00:37:22.000 I mean, every day they're announcing through their surrogates or Bush says that he's above the law, he is the law.

00:37:29.000 You've talked a lot about that, but let's get back into it and then specifically talk about a barrel of snakes hissing at Barr.

00:37:37.000 Right.

00:37:39.000 Well, you know, Bob Barr was the big conservative hero because he led the House, he managed the House Impeachment Clinic.

00:37:48.000 Of course, most of the people who wanted to impeach Clinton just wanted to do it for partisan reasons.

00:37:54.000 Barr wanted to do it for reasons of principle.

00:37:58.000 His position is that the President has lied under oath and we couldn't have Presidents lying under oath even about little things like sexual affairs because they might start lying about big things like war.

00:38:12.000 Well, now we've got a President that lies about big things like war.

00:38:18.000 And Barr was making this point at the annual Conservative Political Action Committee, and it didn't go down well.

00:38:29.000 They thought that it was quite alright for their guy to lie.

00:38:34.000 It's just the other guy's guy who can't lie.

00:38:36.000 In other words, it's all totally partisan.

00:38:40.000 And they're more interested in a partisan defense of their leader than they are in protecting our civil liberties and the Constitution.

00:38:49.000 So this is a very bad development.

00:38:51.000 It means, in effect, that the Conservative Political Action Committee, or basically Brownshirts, are in a default or a furor.

00:39:01.000 Well, that's what you said.

00:39:01.000 You said these statements gallop beyond the merely partisan.

00:39:05.000 They express the sentiments of brown shirtism.

00:39:08.000 Our leader, our Fuhrer, Uwe Ahlers. 0.63

00:39:11.000 Yeah, our leader, Uwe Ahlers.

00:39:14.000 Overall, our leader.

00:39:15.000 Overall, over the Constitution, over the rule of law, over whatever.

00:39:20.000 So, that's what we're faced with.

00:39:23.000 I think, you know, that is about 35% hardcore support For Bush.

00:39:33.000 We're talking Bismarck, we're talking Napoleon, we're talking Hitler, we're talking Stalin, we're talking Mao, we're talking Fidel.

00:39:40.000 I mean, we're talking our leader, Uberalis.

00:39:42.000 They're actually, I mean, you've got what they said here, I went and looked up the transcript of it.

00:39:47.000 They are just cheering open dictatorship, I guess because they think they're going to get a seat at the table.

00:39:53.000 I think, yeah, they think it'll never come back to them, or that some Well, that's a good point.

00:40:14.000 Bush is doing horrible things with his dictatorial imperial power that he's announced unto himself, but we're talking about Hillary Clinton or somebody else down the line.

00:40:26.000 Don't these so-called conservatives get it?

00:40:30.000 No, it's kind of like they're rooting for their football team, you know, and they don't see anything beyond that.

00:40:40.000 They just want to win right now.

00:40:41.000 They live in a very short term and finally they're winning, you know. 0.96

00:40:46.000 Finally they're kicking Democratic butt and they've got the Democrats out of there.

00:40:51.000 You know, they're taking over all the lobbying firms on K Street as well, you know. 0.93

00:40:56.000 They tell the lobbying firms, if you want to come over here and lobby with us, you better send Republicans.

00:41:01.000 So they're having to fire all the Democratic lobbyists.

00:41:04.000 It's quite a takeover, and it's amazing that it's going so well for them with so little opposition.

00:41:14.000 Now, a centralization of power is the opposite of what the Founding Fathers wanted.

00:41:18.000 They said gridlock, a separation of powers was good. 0.74

00:41:21.000 Why do they want that, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts?

00:41:25.000 Why do they want power? 0.98

00:41:27.000 Why do they want to get rid of the separation of powers, and why did the Founding Fathers want a separation of powers?

00:41:33.000 Well, the Founding Fathers, of course, wanted the separation of powers to protect us from our own government.

00:41:38.000 The Founding Fathers never made any bones about it, that your worst enemy would always be your own government, because that's what had power over you, not some foreigner. 0.98

00:41:51.000 That's why they set it up, the separation of powers, that way each branch could sort of hold the other accountable and nobody could run away with it.

00:41:58.000 Well, why Bush is succeeding in running away with it, I think, is 9-11.

00:42:07.000 Everyone believes that we were attacked by a terrible terrorist and that we're going to be attacked again any minute and that the President needs special extra powers to protect us from the terrorists.

00:42:19.000 Even the Democrats go along with this, so they're sitting there letting their own powers go.

00:42:25.000 The Congress is letting its powers go.

00:42:28.000 The courts have been a little more resistant, but not what you would think.

00:42:32.000 So it's mainly 9-11.

00:42:33.000 Now, a lot of people are taking advantage of 9-11.

00:42:38.000 The Federalist Society, which is a group of Republican lawyers who are always the candidates now for federal judgeships or Supreme Court appointments.

00:42:47.000 They all come out of the Federalist Society.

00:42:49.000 They simply believe that the President doesn't have enough power and that the Congress has too much.

00:42:57.000 They talk about the Imperial Congress.

00:43:00.000 And of course Hamiltonian was the original leader of the Ultra-Federalists and he wanted a king and a central bank.

00:43:07.000 Yeah, that's what's happening.

00:43:09.000 They're taking advantage of 9-11 to centralize the power Because that's their agenda, that's the agenda of the Federalist Society.

00:43:18.000 I think Karl Rove is taking advantage of it just to make Bush less vulnerable.

00:43:25.000 And of course the neoconservatives have their own agenda.

00:43:31.000 So everyone is sort of taking advantage of 9-11, and all of their agendas require strong executives.

00:43:40.000 why it's happening.

00:43:41.000 Well, I tell you, Paul Kirk Roberts, that 9-11 came by at just the right time. 1.00

00:43:45.000 Last time you were on about a month ago, without my prompting, you said, you know, a lot of people don't believe the official 9-11 story.

00:43:52.000 You've now had time to look at all the facts.

00:43:54.000 Just lay it out there.

00:43:55.000 I mean, the official story we know is a fraud and a lie.

00:43:59.000 What do you think happened on 9-11?

00:44:00.000 I don't know what happened or who did it, but I don't believe the official story.

00:44:06.000 And I think we need a lot of examination and debate on that.

00:44:12.000 And we need, of course, a very high-level investigation of the 9-11 report itself, because it's fraudulent.

00:44:24.000 But I don't know what happened.

00:44:24.000 I agree with that.

00:44:26.000 I just know that what they've told us is highly suspect, and it's protected from debate And so I assume they're hiding something.

00:44:39.000 Well, sir, the other night I typed in CIA Mosedeck bombings.

00:44:44.000 And I got the CIA.gov with huge sections where the CIA says they carried out terror attacks to blame it on Mozadek in 53.

00:44:52.000 Then I typed in CIA Operation Gladio, and of the links, the CIA admits they carried out terror attacks in Europe in the 70s and 80s to blame it on their enemy, sir.

00:45:07.000 In fact, I'm even learning how public all of this is.

00:45:10.000 Were you aware of Mozadek or Gladio or any of them?

00:45:13.000 I'm not aware of those, but I do remember when I was a young man doing Russian studies, I learned that the Tsarist secret police used to carry out bombings so they could arrest people they thought were troublemakers.

00:45:26.000 So, the Tsarist secret police would go set off bombs and blow things up and then they would go arrest somebody.

00:45:33.000 So, I think that it's well known that police forces tend to do that.

00:45:40.000 We have in the United States just, you know, local police forces who will plant drugs or plant ground-up wallboard and say it's drugs so that they can arrest people.

00:45:49.000 So we know that police tend to do this, this sort of thing.

00:45:55.000 I would doubt that the CIA was behind blowing up the World Trade Centers.

00:46:02.000 There's possibly some I don't know.

00:46:05.000 group in there somewhere.

00:46:06.000 Oh yeah, when I say CIA, I'm talking about what they admit they've done in the past.

00:46:11.000 Kermit Roosevelt, I mean obviously we're talking about different black ops squads and what they call the black world colluding and doing this.

00:46:20.000 When I say the government, I mean criminal elements, but nevertheless criminal elements working for global corporations that are at the presidential level and above.

00:46:30.000 I don't know who did it.

00:46:35.000 It's possible some black operations because they're hard to control. 1.00

00:46:40.000 It's hard for anyone to know about them.

00:46:46.000 It certainly fit the neocon agenda to have something like that happen.

00:46:50.000 They were talking about their need for a new Pearl Harbor.

00:46:53.000 But I don't really know.

00:46:54.000 I mean, I don't think anybody knows.

00:46:56.000 Well, regardless, we know they're not trying to stop real terrorism.

00:47:00.000 They're doing everything to take our daily freedoms away while Bush calls for an open border.

00:47:05.000 And specifically, how far do you think this will go? 0.96

00:47:07.000 I mean, with his signing statements, when he signs bills, with John Yoo saying they can crush children's genitalia? 0.98

00:47:13.000 Alex, I don't know.

00:47:15.000 You know, the Americans don't seem to give him a very high standing in polls whether they will Try to correct the situation this November and take the House and the Senate away from the Republicans, hoping to produce a little more balanced situation.

00:47:34.000 Well, 77% don't like him, but it doesn't matter.

00:47:38.000 Most of the Democrats are still going along with it.

00:47:40.000 Sure, it would be better to have a separation of powers, but how do you put Democrats in who will just cheerlead for him?

00:47:46.000 Well, the Democrats might not be cheerleading so much if they had a majority somewhere.

00:47:54.000 And the American people may simply decide to give the majority somewhere as a break on Bush.

00:48:02.000 On the other hand, the Republicans may simply steal the elections because they seem to have a lock on the electronic voting machines, so it may well be that the voting I won't correct the situation.

00:48:17.000 Well, Paul Craig Roberts, Ron Paul wrote a big article last week saying that dollarization hegemony is dead.

00:48:24.000 Do you agree with that statement?

00:48:27.000 No, it's not dead now, but it's heading that way.

00:48:32.000 We're so dependent on foreigners now to finance our consumption and our wars. 0.99

00:48:38.000 Okay, so how long do you see or will it crash?

00:48:40.000 I mean, so we've been diagnosed with lung cancer, maybe we can live, or it's terminal, we got six months?

00:48:46.000 Well, Alex, you see, the dollar is a reserve currency.

00:48:49.000 And to get rid of it, unless you're going to just completely disrupt all international trade everywhere, you need a substitute.

00:48:59.000 And the substitute just hadn't appeared.

00:49:01.000 For a while it looked like it might be the Euro, but it's running into its own problems.

00:49:06.000 And the thing is that the value of having a reserve currency is so high, because it facilitates trade, that people will hold on to a bad one, rather than not have one at all.

00:49:19.000 Do you see what I'm saying?

00:49:21.000 It's such a tight dog.

00:49:21.000 No, I understand.

00:49:24.000 The dollar could last far beyond what an economist like myself might think simply because there's no alternative.

00:49:33.000 Well, Dr. Roberts, listen, I hope you're right because, like it or not, we're all tied to this millstone.

00:49:40.000 I just do see the dollar devalued quite a bit in the last few years, and I do see a lot of other countries starting to incrementally dump it.

00:49:49.000 I mean, certainly there's an attempt to move away from it.

00:49:51.000 Yes, if they had an alternative.

00:49:55.000 That's what's missing, and that's why, in my opinion, it hasn't already collapsed.

00:50:02.000 Thank you.

00:50:03.000 What do you think about the call by the Bank of International Settlements to go to a type of global UN trade credit that will be like a new global currency?

00:50:13.000 They're now calling for that.

00:50:15.000 Well, you know, it's something made up, isn't it?

00:50:19.000 It doesn't have a record.

00:50:20.000 No one knows what's behind it.

00:50:23.000 There's a lot of just momentum going for the dollar.

00:50:27.000 And it's kind of like inventing a new language.

00:50:30.000 You remember those years and years ago when... The mixture of Spanish, German, Japanese?

00:50:35.000 They were inventing a new language for everybody.

00:50:38.000 I forget what they called it.

00:50:39.000 But it never went anywhere because languages have their own reasons, you know.

00:50:43.000 Stay there, stay there, doctor.

00:50:45.000 You're right.

00:50:45.000 Well, that'll be good news for us.

00:50:47.000 And I mean, look, Europe threw out the EU expansion last year.

00:50:52.000 Pan-American unions falling apart.

00:50:54.000 I mean, yeah, good stuff's happening.

00:50:55.000 So the dollar may survive or sink.

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00:54:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:10.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:54:14.000 I went down, down, down... Well, I appreciate him joining us.

00:54:18.000 We're hooking him back up each month with us for an update.

00:54:20.000 Paul Craig Roberts.

00:54:21.000 You can just type Paul Craig Roberts into a search engine and his articles are carried by hundreds of websites, including every new story he puts out we post on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:54:32.000 And we're honored to have him with us today.

00:54:35.000 They've got Tommy Franks, who we then learned was on the Pentagon payroll for $400-something thousand a year, more of the fake media, running around saying that if there's another terror attack that we're going to have to have a dictatorship of the military.

00:54:48.000 We now know that they spent $1.6 billion for fake newscasts and paying off reporters.

00:54:53.000 In the last two and a half years, the Governmental Accounting Office... Governmenting, yes, I'm inventing new words.

00:55:00.000 I'm Jesse Jackson.

00:55:02.000 said that it's illegal and Bush said no, I'm allowed to.

00:55:05.000 I say I'm allowed to.

00:55:07.000 Paul Craig Roberts, where is it all going?

00:55:11.000 Well, I don't know, Alex.

00:55:13.000 If we don't stop it, we're going to have an executive that rules and the Congress will just be a rump body.

00:55:20.000 It won't really have any power and the courts will be powerless because nobody will, even if they It gave a correct ruling.

00:55:30.000 They have no way to enforce it.

00:55:33.000 And the executive is going to stack it even further.

00:55:36.000 And yes, he's stacking it.

00:55:37.000 I mean, Alito is simply a stacked part of it for, you know, executive power.

00:55:46.000 So it's just hard to see how Americans will let it go this far.

00:55:54.000 I mean, even people who aren't paying attention or who are fearful of being attacked by terrorists, even these people, sooner or later, I think, see where the real source of the problem is.

00:56:11.000 So that's what I'm banking on, just a good sense of the American people, that they come to their senses in time and put a halt to this.

00:56:23.000 Do you think we'll see another convenient terror attack just right on time like last time before they attack Iran? 0.96

00:56:32.000 You know, Alex, if they attack Iran, that may be what brings them down. 0.96

00:56:38.000 They've shown that they're not able to occupy Baghdad.

00:56:42.000 Baghdad is, you know, Iraq is a small Problem compared to taking on Iran. 0.96

00:56:49.000 Yeah, 20 million versus 60 million.

00:56:51.000 Yeah, so if they go after Iran, they may find that they've bitten off more than they can chew, and this may actually bring the whole thing to an end. 0.96

00:57:03.000 It could be quite a catastrophe for them.

00:57:05.000 Well, most of their experts are telling them, don't do it, but they're talking about not just bombing them, but then if Iran fights back, how dare them?

00:57:12.000 They may have to invade.

00:57:15.000 I don't think that they can invade.

00:57:17.000 And Iran has so many terrorist groups that it can set in motion all over the Middle East.

00:57:28.000 Furthermore, if we tried to invade from Iraq, I think it would bring the Iraqi Shia down on us, because they are aligned with Iran. 1.00

00:57:39.000 So I just don't think there's any prospect of them succeeding in that.

00:57:48.000 But I could be wrong.

00:57:50.000 Well, you know, order out of chaos.

00:57:52.000 The neocons don't mind.

00:57:53.000 Other people die and bring them on.

00:57:54.000 I think they're trying to get America into a fight we start losing, and then a lot of Americans, even people like myself, will go, we better, we better, you know, we're getting hit.

00:58:03.000 We just got hit by an A-bomb.

00:58:05.000 We better get in there.

00:58:07.000 People got to hold on to their brains and go, wait a minute, somebody else is behind this.

00:58:11.000 I think we're being sucked into World War III, Doctor.

00:58:13.000 Well, I don't think they have an A-bomb to hit us with.

00:58:16.000 I'm talking about the black ops.

00:58:19.000 Oh, I see.

00:58:20.000 Well, you never know.

00:58:24.000 You never know.

00:58:25.000 Well, sir, I look forward to having you back on again in a month or so, and thank you for spending time with us, Dr. Roberts.

00:58:30.000 Okay, Alex.

00:58:31.000 Always fun to be on with you.

00:58:32.000 You bet.

00:58:33.000 You're a great American.

00:58:34.000 Well, there you go.

00:58:36.000 One of the fathers of Reaganomics.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 Well, Raul A. Ramos, University of Houston professor of history.

00:59:24.000 A Opposes the naming of a soccer team in Houston 1836's for the victory at the Battle of San Jacinto against the dictator Santa Anna who was later overthrown by his own government.

00:59:38.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:59:40.000 Somehow I guess...

00:59:41.000 In fact, UT doesn't even celebrate Texas Independence anymore.

00:59:45.000 I never knew that it was such a dirty thing.

00:59:48.000 I didn't know it had to do with race or groups, but now I figured out that some people think that, and the professor joins us.

00:59:56.000 Professor Ramos, nice to have you on with us today.

00:59:58.000 How are you doing, Alex?

01:00:00.000 I'm doing pretty good.

01:00:02.000 We've got a lot of stuff on the horizon, the war with Iran, the rest of these nightmares to deal with, but I see that there's a big hubbub about this particular team.

01:00:10.000 Why don't you tell us about it and tell us why you're against it?

01:00:13.000 Well, I would say I'm not really organizing any kind of opposition against it.

01:00:19.000 Rather, as a historian who works on 19th century history, and my own specialty is 19th century American Southwest and Mexican North, I feel that when this team name was announced that it was a teaching moment, a time when we can talk about the detail of the past and look at history warts and all.

01:00:43.000 What I found was by raising just questions about the name, Houston 1836, I found that it touched a lot of nerves, some that I was expecting, I suppose, and others that I wasn't expecting.

01:00:58.000 The main issue is this.

01:01:00.000 The team name was announced, Houston 1836, mainly because there was a team that was moved here from San Jose, and there they were called the Earthquakes, and the Houston Earthquakes wouldn't quite work.

01:01:12.000 So they went to find another name, and they chose Houston 1836, and I think appropriately so, because that was the founding of the city.

01:01:22.000 Houston was founded in 1836 on the banks of the Buffalo Bayou.

01:01:27.000 Well, it also happens to be the year that the Mexican Army was defeated by the Texan Army at the Battle of San Jacinto, which is right down the road from here.

01:01:42.000 By San Houston, yeah.

01:01:43.000 Correct.

01:01:45.000 Now, just from the standpoint of naming the team Houston 1836, I think you could allow that there be multiple Well, I thought from reading the newspaper that it was about Texas Independence, so what?

01:01:59.000 Well, the issue is this.

01:02:02.000 A large percentage of the fans that will be coming to the soccer games, hopefully, will be Latino fans.

01:02:10.000 They're American, they're Texan, they're saying, hey no, we're Mexicans and this is Mexico.

01:02:17.000 Is it La Reconquista?

01:02:19.000 Well, here's my issue with it, and it's a couple-fold.

01:02:22.000 Number one, when we look back at the past, And we look at the Texas Revolution, or as I call it in my work, the Texas War of Secession, because it was just that, Texas was seceding from Mexico.

01:02:33.000 Yeah, so it was 1776.

01:02:35.000 So when we look at Texas' secession from Mexico, it was something where, in fact, there were a lot of Tejanos, or Mexican-Texans, who fought on the side of secession as well.

01:02:43.000 They were folks like Juan Seguin and And Navarro, who were all... Jose Navarro, yeah, who's called the father of the Constitution.

01:02:43.000 Yes, there was.

01:02:53.000 And these Tejanos were very involved in opposition to, what was at that time, the Mexican... And most of them were born here, most of them weren't from Central Mexico, they were born here and they were trying to get the U.S. 0.93

01:03:07.000 to buy Texas beforehand, but you know that, you're a professor.

01:03:11.000 Well, you know, that's when you start wondering then, You know, when you start looking at the details, though, and you see that, you know, first off... Yeah, you learn it was Mexicans who just so happened to have brown skin who wanted this to be Texas. 0.70

01:03:24.000 Well, no, they were... They, not all of them, by the way, they weren't all looking to become part of the United States.

01:03:29.000 Many of them saw it as... They were in their own country, yeah.

01:03:31.000 Well, I tell you what, Professor Stanton, we've got to break.

01:03:33.000 We've got to break.

01:03:34.000 I'll come right back to you.

01:03:35.000 I want to go over this with you.

01:03:36.000 Okay, no problem.

01:03:37.000 I don't have a degree in this, but I do have a lot of history professors on, and I just so happen to be somewhat of a history buff, and my family raised Colonel Travis's son.

01:03:45.000 Folks, stay with us. 0.87

01:03:45.000 We'll be right back, folks. 0.87

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01:07:01.000 So, there was going to be a little soccer team, or football team as they'd call it in England.

01:07:19.000 Down in Houston, and they were going to pick the name 1836 for when Houston was founded.

01:07:25.000 But folks began to get upset, I guess, that that was the date that Texas won its independence from the dictator Santa Ana, who again was overthrown by his own country.

01:07:38.000 And remember, there were six flags of Texas.

01:07:40.000 The French had it, the Spanish had it, Texas had it, the U.S.

01:07:44.000 had it, then the Confederates had it, then the U.S.

01:07:47.000 got it again.

01:07:48.000 This belonged to the Native Americans and they were all always busy killing each other and raiding each other. 1.00

01:07:53.000 The Comanche coming down on the plains into Texas. 0.85

01:07:56.000 So this was a no-man's land and we've had a lot of different history professors on to talk about this.

01:08:01.000 We're big fans of Jacksonian era history because it's so rich.

01:08:08.000 Makes, you know, later Western activities pale in significance.

01:08:13.000 And I've always been aware that the father of the Texas Constitution, as he was known, was Hispanic, and that around a third of those that fought in the war total were Hispanic, and that there really wasn't a lot of what you would call racism until the beginning of the last century.

01:08:32.000 And you had a lot of German and Polish and Czech communities intermarrying and mingling with the Hispanics, thus you get the Tejanos. 0.76

01:08:42.000 And, but there's now so many people from Central Mexico, Southern Mexico have come in here.

01:08:46.000 And man, it's all over.

01:08:47.000 The cars, the radio stations are named that.

01:08:49.000 My wife speaks Spanish.

01:08:50.000 She translates it.

01:08:51.000 We're taking over.

01:08:52.000 This is Mexico.

01:08:53.000 The grocery stores are named that.

01:08:55.000 I speak a little bit of Spanish.

01:08:57.000 People laugh at you when you're in restaurants.

01:08:59.000 And, of course, Washington's funding all this.

01:09:01.000 It's part of the Pan-American Union.

01:09:03.000 Thank God that the Venezuelan president just shot that down.

01:09:08.000 He knows what's going on.

01:09:08.000 He just called Vicente Fox a lapdog of the globalists, which he is.

01:09:12.000 So this is all a big Madison Avenue PR campaign.

01:09:15.000 You've got the Liberation Theology crowd professors, and I don't even know if our guest is one of them.

01:09:20.000 He seems a little more reasonable.

01:09:21.000 I've had a UT professor on from Dallas who's like, yeah, I'm for the plan of San Diego. 1.00

01:09:25.000 We're going to kill all whites above 16. 1.00

01:09:28.000 I mean, we can have them on here. 1.00

01:09:29.000 We've had them on.

01:09:30.000 You're like, oh, well, I'm sorry. 0.57

01:09:31.000 And if you resist us, you're racist. 1.00

01:09:33.000 You will lay down and die. 1.00

01:09:35.000 And I mean, I'm not kidding, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

01:09:37.000 This is what we're dealing with.

01:09:38.000 So when I hear...

01:09:40.000 That, well, I don't know if we can name this team 1836.

01:09:43.000 I go, why?

01:09:44.000 Why can't Hispanics have their history?

01:09:46.000 Why can't they have their culture as the founders of Texas?

01:09:50.000 It was Hispanics who went to the U.S. 1.00

01:09:51.000 and said, buy this from us.

01:09:53.000 Or it was Hispanics who wanted to make their own country. 0.98

01:09:55.000 By the way, Texas used to go up into Colorado and pass.

01:09:58.000 It was just gigantic.

01:09:59.000 It was almost as big as the rest of the territories the U.S.

01:10:02.000 already had.

01:10:03.000 But I'm going to shut up and let him have his say.

01:10:06.000 It just never ends, folks.

01:10:07.000 It never ends.

01:10:08.000 Raul A. Ramos.

01:10:10.000 And Raul, Professor, thank you for joining us.

01:10:13.000 Some stations just join us, don't care that first five-minute segment.

01:10:16.000 You had a problem with this, but you said really just to educate people about real Texas history.

01:10:21.000 So what is that?

01:10:22.000 Is it the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo is a scam?

01:10:25.000 This is really Mexico?

01:10:26.000 Or is it we should just know about the problems in Texas history?

01:10:29.000 What is it?

01:10:30.000 What's your view?

01:10:31.000 There's two issues, I think, that it raises.

01:10:32.000 The first is what I might call the kind of local issue of Texas secession or Texas Revolution, as it's commonly called, which is the issue of did everyone who fought in the Texas Revolution fight for the same reasons?

01:10:46.000 And I think, as in any war, there's different interests involved, and there's interests that are overt and others that are covert, and some that we can identify, others that we'll never know.

01:10:56.000 But there's a larger picture, I think, that's part of this, which is American Westward Expansion, as it was known as Manifest Destiny, what role did the Texas Revolution have?

01:11:10.000 part of that westward expansion and did the Tejanos or the Mexican-Texans who fought alongside other Anglo-Texans and Anglo-Americans, many of whom were mercenaries, really, who came in at the end of the Texas War of Independence.

01:11:24.000 Well, yeah, you have the secret meeting with Old Hickory and, of course, Houston there at his house at the Hermitage.

01:11:32.000 Right, so were they all on the same page about this?

01:11:35.000 And what I'm suggesting is that, you know, Of course, if you just look at the Battle of San Jacinto, it does seem like this great opportunity.

01:11:42.000 But if you look through the ten years of the Texas Republic, and then everything that happened afterwards, it was a pretty rapid erosion of Mexican landholding, Mexican political power, Mexican economic power, and ultimately setting up a second-class citizenship.

01:12:01.000 Was that part of the Lone Star promise?

01:12:04.000 You know, I think for some folks, I mean, I'd have to say, I think Sam Houston had a pretty broad view of things.

01:12:10.000 I mean, we know in his own personal life, you know, he wasn't discriminating necessarily, at least in the community.

01:12:19.000 No, he liked Indians. 0.88

01:12:20.000 Even though he killed quite a few of them, he liked Indians. 1.00

01:12:22.000 And it was a complex world, right? 0.89

01:12:24.000 I mean, it was the frontier.

01:12:25.000 There were alliances being set up and broken all the time.

01:12:29.000 I mean, it was a very messy place.

01:12:30.000 That's the point I'm going to make. 0.99

01:12:32.000 I mean, Mexicans wanted to come to the Texas Territory, the Texas Country, because they had less a chance on the Colonies as peons down there, and so now today, to resurrect something, ooooh, you know, frankly, you're not stupid. 0.98

01:12:46.000 I'm sure you know about the Lurie Conquista, I wonder if you're through that, I bet you know a lot of radio stations call for it, from California to Texas, it's a big joke, ha ha, this is Mexico, pilgrim go home, you haven't heard that? 0.99

01:12:58.000 You know, I'm not plugged into that, but what I have to say... Are you a member of Mecha or La Raza?

01:13:04.000 When I was in college, our college didn't have a Mecha, but we had a Chicano student group and... Well, do you know what Mecha's slogan is?

01:13:12.000 For those in the race, everything.

01:13:12.000 Yeah.

01:13:14.000 For those outside the race, nothing. 0.99

01:13:16.000 Right.

01:13:16.000 You know, Mecha itself has to be seen in the context of the American Civil Rights Movement as part of ethnic uplift.

01:13:28.000 Let me just tell you how an average white sees the Alamo in Texas.

01:13:36.000 I see it as another 1776, but King George wasn't a fat white guy. 0.65

01:13:42.000 He was a skinny, mainly Spanish guy.

01:13:46.000 To me, it's just a 1776.

01:13:47.000 Of course, all the motives weren't perfect.

01:13:53.000 And of course, but I mean, give me a break!

01:13:54.000 But look, Alex, you're not going to get me to defend Santana.

01:13:57.000 I mean, you can't get a single person in Mexico to defend Santana today.

01:14:00.000 That's not the issue I'm raising here.

01:14:02.000 What I'm saying is that it was a civil war within Mexico, and these Anglo-Texans took advantage of that. 0.88

01:14:10.000 Straight and simple.

01:14:12.000 And, uh, Mexico was very weak at that time, and increasingly weaker afterwards.

01:14:17.000 Yeah, they had new leaders every six months until Santa Ana came along.

01:14:20.000 Well, you know, and what we have to see is in the context of, you know, ten years after that, in 1846, you have the United States invade Mexico and take over Mexico.

01:14:30.000 I mean, that's, you know, we'll talk about... But the Marines did leave, now let's be honest, could have stayed, could have stayed.

01:14:36.000 Listen, here's the deal.

01:14:38.000 And there were people who wanted them to stay in the U.S.

01:14:40.000 legislature.

01:14:41.000 Well, here's the deal.

01:14:42.000 I mean, there was an All of Mexico movement in the U.S.

01:14:45.000 legislature at the time that said we should take over all of Mexico.

01:14:49.000 And you know what the main reason people didn't want to take over Mexico?

01:14:52.000 Because it would introduce too many mongrel people into the United States. 1.00

01:14:57.000 So it became a racial issue, along with, of course, the slavery issue, which is how do you add new land?

01:15:01.000 But that's 75 years out.

01:15:03.000 Let me just say this, Professor.

01:15:06.000 Put the cards on the table here.

01:15:08.000 I think Texas is a lot better than Mexico. 0.77

01:15:10.000 I think the U.S.

01:15:11.000 is a lot better than Mexico. 0.93

01:15:12.000 I was just down there a few months ago and there were troops with machine guns shaking down little families at checkpoints when I was, you know, down in the interior.

01:15:20.000 I don't want to live like that.

01:15:21.000 I know Washington loves the La Reconquista.

01:15:24.000 Bush wants open borders.

01:15:25.000 They want to drive down the wages.

01:15:27.000 They want us all to live like people do in Mexico City.

01:15:29.000 I'm asking you, do you believe we should merge with Mexico?

01:15:32.000 Are you for the La Reconquista?

01:15:34.000 You know, this is out of my hands.

01:15:36.000 Back when they signed the North American Free Trade Agreement, they de facto tore down the border.

01:15:41.000 I know!

01:15:42.000 All the white guys are for it.

01:15:44.000 So really, it's the U.S. 0.78

01:15:45.000 interest, which are enslaving me too, taking over Mexico.

01:15:48.000 I'm asking you, are you for getting rid of the border?

01:15:50.000 Am I for getting rid of the border?

01:15:52.000 Well, let me put it to you this way.

01:15:54.000 Most of my family lives in Mexico.

01:15:55.000 And when I go visit my grandmother, and when I go visit my aunts and uncles, You know, it's become increasingly difficult to go back and forth.

01:16:04.000 Now, you know, I'm willing to, you know, there's personal issues and then there's political issues.

01:16:09.000 And, you know, politically speaking, I think, you know, there's, you can look at it just in terms of the United States isolated from the rest of the world, or look at the fact that the poverty in Mexico has 95% to do with American corporations going in and creating and taking advantage of... Sir, it has to do with your PRI and now Fox's party.

01:16:30.000 It has to do that you guys never got out from under the imperial model of the Spanish.

01:16:35.000 Let me point something out while you're talking.

01:16:37.000 You keep saying you guys.

01:16:40.000 You know, I was born in San Antonio.

01:16:42.000 I'm just as local.

01:16:45.000 I'm only representing myself.

01:16:49.000 I'm not representing the Mexican government here.

01:16:51.000 Professor, I understand.

01:16:52.000 The head of Perry's Texas-Mexico relations is a foreign lobbyist.

01:16:59.000 He's Mexican, but he runs things here in Texas.

01:17:02.000 Sir, I'm telling you the facts.

01:17:03.000 D.C.

01:17:04.000 is running the La Reconquista to break down Texas and turn us all into peon slaves. 0.95

01:17:09.000 That's the stated fact.

01:17:11.000 And here you are saying that most of your family is in Mexico.

01:17:14.000 I'm telling you, the Hispanics I know that are Tejanos, they love Texas and they're tired of Mexicans from Mexico claiming this is Mexico.

01:17:22.000 No, they want it to be Texas.

01:17:24.000 They're proud of Texas.

01:17:26.000 I agree with you that there's opportunities here.

01:17:30.000 That's why people keep coming.

01:17:32.000 And that there are divisions within the Latino community and within the Mexican community in the United States.

01:17:37.000 It's not a monolithic community.

01:17:40.000 My point was basically this, that we have to be aware of it.

01:17:44.000 That we have to be aware of those divisions.

01:17:49.000 There's no population that's of one voice.

01:17:52.000 Mexicanos are not of one voice.

01:17:54.000 Anglos are not of one voice.

01:17:55.000 And I was just bringing up this point of view about Basically, American expansion in Texas history and that for a lot of Mexicans in the United States, for a lot of Mexican immigrants or transnationals, this is bringing up this larger question of American imperialism throughout the Americas.

01:18:19.000 Well, listen, you can talk about American imperialism, and certainly it's going on today in Iraq.

01:18:24.000 Okay, I'm not debating that with you.

01:18:26.000 I'm just simply saying there's no reason for everybody to fight with each other, and I don't know why on radio and on Spanish TV, all I hear is, ha-ha, we're taking over, we're going to get you.

01:18:37.000 Plan of San Diego, ha-ha.

01:18:39.000 And I go, oh, Plan of San Diego, ha-ha.

01:18:41.000 I just want to get along with you, and that I'm best.

01:18:43.000 When I say you people, I mean the Plan of San Diego, La Reconquista folks.

01:18:47.000 If they want another Alamo, they want another San Jacinto, they're gonna get one!

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01:22:49.000 I drug Kevin Smith in here because he's got a bunch of UT documents where really Hispanics were key founders of Texas.

01:23:06.000 and And so, frankly, whenever I first looked up Raul A. Ramos, I thought, is he one of these Jose Gutierrez guys that we've had on, we've played clips of him?

01:23:15.000 Plan of San Diego.

01:23:16.000 We need to implement that.

01:23:17.000 Sir, do you need to implement that plan?

01:23:19.000 We need to do that.

01:23:19.000 Yes, that would be good.

01:23:21.000 Professor, are you aware of the Plan of San Diego?

01:23:25.000 Yeah, it's a very important document in Texas history.

01:23:28.000 It's the manifesto, basically, in 1915 that called for the creation of a Mexican-only, well, it's actually Mexican and black nation in Texas. 0.98

01:23:43.000 Yeah, kill all white males above the age of 16. 0.96

01:23:47.000 Well, see, I didn't know what it was until I went to a Mexican Independence Day rally here in Austin, and there were a bunch of people wearing the shirt, and I said, what's that? 0.98

01:23:54.000 And they said, you're going to learn real soon, buddy.

01:23:56.000 So I went home and typed it in, and then I was horrified.

01:23:59.000 And it was a very radical position, but what it needs to be, there's a great book that's out now by Benjamin Johnson on the plan of San Diego and the violence in South Texas during that period, and really what it was, it was a statement in A local race conflict.

01:24:17.000 It really was a race war where the Texas Rangers were going in and indiscriminately killing and terrorizing Mexicans.

01:24:24.000 And this was a response to that.

01:24:25.000 The Texas Rangers actually hired mercenaries.

01:24:28.000 Who was the famous guy from... In fact, Kevin's here.

01:24:31.000 Kevin knows about it, Kevin.

01:24:33.000 Well, you know, actually they weren't even really official Texas Rangers.

01:24:36.000 They were like appointees by... Who was the governor at the time?

01:24:40.000 Culberson? 0.91

01:24:41.000 I forgot off the top of my head.

01:24:43.000 But, you know, there were some raids by Poncho Villa in response to it.

01:24:47.000 You know, the problem that I think we see, Professor, Is that these war cries from both sides, these plays to the lowest common denominator, the masses are so easy to whip up, they're so easy to whip into these frenzies, and we saw that back in 1915, and you had to know that the Germans were well behind that ploy to get Mexico to attack us from the south, and if Germany was victorious in World War I, what was the booty?

01:25:16.000 You remember that?

01:25:17.000 It was the Southwest.

01:25:18.000 They were going to give it back.

01:25:19.000 So, we see this Ozzelon movement. 1.00

01:25:21.000 Well, although you, I mean, I think there's, you know, we know about the Zimmerman Note, and we know about the, you know, that Mexico's always, in terms of international politics.

01:25:30.000 Well, Hitler tried it again. 0.96

01:25:34.000 We know that Mexico's always had a very, You know, not friendly relation with the United States.

01:25:40.000 I mean, to the extent that, you know, to the extent that Mexico does anything it can, you know, doesn't go out of its way to help the United States internationally.

01:25:47.000 Why is Mexico in a lip lock with the Germans? 0.99

01:25:50.000 I mean, that goes back to, I mean, there's other issues as well.

01:25:54.000 I think it goes back to Maximilian.

01:25:55.000 Capitalism and looking at, you know, paying off debts and so forth.

01:25:59.000 But there is, you know, look at what happened with the Iraq War.

01:26:02.000 And, you know, the UN resolution where Mexico happened to be on the Security Council in 2003, and their vote in support was no guarantee.

01:26:14.000 In fact, they had come out and said they weren't going to support the United States.

01:26:18.000 And so, you know, that was seen as a huge betrayal.

01:26:21.000 I mean, you could see between September 11th and the UN resolution, You know, it's only now that Mexico's started, you know, Fox has like done enough genuflecting to get back into Bush's graces, you know, that it's... Well, this is what I'm saying, professor.

01:26:35.000 Hispanics have got to know these open borders are bad if Bush is for it. 0.91

01:26:40.000 I mean, come on.

01:26:41.000 I mean, listen.

01:26:43.000 I mean, I want Mexico to be free.

01:26:45.000 I know our corporations use it as a toilet.

01:26:48.000 I'm against all that, sir.

01:26:49.000 Okay, I'm for the rebels in the South.

01:26:52.000 I'm not the enemy, and I've been to the rallies, brother.

01:26:55.000 If you don't know about it, believe me, I've never done anything to anybody, so I don't have all this white guilt. 0.98

01:27:00.000 I'm just a friendly guy who likes everybody, go to a rally, and there's people there with signs saying, I'm going to kill you, whitey.

01:27:06.000 I'm telling you right now, and then I hear, hey, we don't like 1836, and I'm like, man, listen, if you love Texas, just say it's yours, because frankly, you've got more claim to it than anybody else.

01:27:18.000 You're right in the sense of that claim.

01:27:20.000 Like I said earlier, all my relatives live in northern Mexico, actually in Coahuila.

01:27:27.000 My grandmother lives in the town where that mining accident is taking place right now.

01:27:32.000 We go back in this region for hundreds of years, literally, back when Coahuila y Tejas was one state.

01:27:40.000 In the sense that I'm from here, I'm saying you're from Texas.

01:27:44.000 Yeah, I'm from here for 300 years and so that's, you know, on my father's side, on my mother's side, they're European immigrants.

01:27:50.000 I'm not saying, hey, you know, I'm saying exactly, choose it as here, here being this region for Native Americans more than anything, instead of saying, you know, it's this group or that group.

01:27:50.000 No, I understand.

01:27:59.000 Indeed.

01:28:00.000 But what really got me about the, you know, in some ways, I think I started saying that I would have been, I wouldn't have spoken out And in questioning the team name, have they not put Sam Houston on a horse charging against the Mexican Army in the logo?

01:28:19.000 I think... Oh, I didn't know that part.

01:28:21.000 Yeah, look at the logo and it has Sam Houston charging.

01:28:24.000 I mean, Houston 1836 could be open to interpretation.

01:28:27.000 You put Sam Houston on a horse with a sword drawn charging... Well, I think they need to put Navarro next to him.

01:28:32.000 That'd make it a little better.

01:28:34.000 Okay, I kind of get your point.

01:28:35.000 No, I understand.

01:28:36.000 Okay, so I see where you're coming from.

01:28:39.000 One more quick segment with our guest, and we'll let Kevin get in there with some quotes. 0.91

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01:31:51.000 Look, I've said it over and over again.

01:32:01.000 I do not blame Hispanic Americans.

01:32:03.000 And with the weird media, I mean, I don't know what name I'm supposed to call people's.

01:32:08.000 Spanish, Hispanic, Latino.

01:32:11.000 Chicano, I mean other people say, no you're supposed to call me this, you're supposed to call me that.

01:32:15.000 I just really don't care.

01:32:16.000 I'm not against anybody.

01:32:17.000 I don't care what's going on.

01:32:19.000 I know that Mexico's population is doubling every 30 years now.

01:32:22.000 It's upwards of 100 million.

01:32:23.000 Latin America's at 400 million total.

01:32:25.000 They all want to come here.

01:32:27.000 We're all going to be living at that standard of living most of us will be allowed to have it.

01:32:30.000 Then I hear it's racist to not let everyone come up here.

01:32:33.000 We're natives, which you are.

01:32:36.000 We're allowed to travel the length and breadth of the continent.

01:32:39.000 Well, back when it was just natives here, you were all killing each other over territory. 1.00

01:32:43.000 So this isn't how humans operate.

01:32:45.000 So we've got to be under the American flag.

01:32:47.000 We've got to be under the Texas flag.

01:32:48.000 We've got to be under the Mexican flag.

01:32:50.000 We've got to choose sides.

01:32:52.000 And I just want Hispanics. 0.99

01:32:54.000 To know, who don't know, because the media and the corporate media wants to divide all of us and play us off against each other, that you've got more claim on Texas as a Texian than anybody does.

01:33:07.000 And they go, yeah, we've got more claim as Mexicans, this is Mexico.

01:33:09.000 Wait a minute!

01:33:10.000 Mexico was just an area with natives in it, taken over by Spain, and then France and Germany moved in.

01:33:17.000 And you've never gotten real freedom down there, and we've never gotten total freedom here, and now we're going in the wrong direction in America with Bush announcing he's a dictator!

01:33:26.000 I mean, openly!

01:33:28.000 So, that's my rant, and I know Kevin's got a few comments.

01:33:31.000 Raul A. Ramos, how do we read some of your writings or check out what you're saying or what you're doing?

01:33:35.000 We've got some links to some of the news articles you're quoted to here on InfoWars.com, but give us any other tidbits you'd like.

01:33:44.000 Well, I wrote an editorial in the Houston Chronicle that came out about three weeks ago, and I think that sort of got things started.

01:33:50.000 I was surprised by the reaction that I got that it would go this far.

01:33:57.000 I mainly thought I was just making a point about different interpretations of the past, and it turned out to give articulation to a variety of viewpoints.

01:34:11.000 And, you know, there's articles in scholarly journals... Well, I haven't read your original article.

01:34:16.000 I mean, you sound reasonable in this discussion.

01:34:18.000 What did you say in it?

01:34:19.000 Because I'm reading the Houston Chronicle by Bernardo Wallace, and he's saying that it's offensive to corporate and Hispanic communities.

01:34:29.000 Who says it's... I mean, why?

01:34:31.000 Why?

01:34:32.000 Well, again, you know, I just put it... I put down the claim that, again, The different ways of reading Houston 1836, but putting Sam Houston on a horse, sword drawn, charging against the Mexican army, made this point about American imperialism that I think is

01:34:57.000 It certainly puts the Mexican... Nature abhors a vacuum. 1.00

01:35:04.000 Nature abhors a vacuum.

01:35:05.000 This was the wild, wild, wilds, as you know, when your family was here.

01:35:10.000 My family got their Spanish land grant in 1829, so not here as long as your family, but my family paid, what, ten cents an acre for its stuff from Spain.

01:35:18.000 Right, and that's, again, going back to how I'm developing this story, We often don't talk about Americans as immigrants.

01:35:29.000 We talk about Mexican immigrants coming and immigrants from all over the world coming to the United States.

01:35:33.000 But the fact of the matter is, the Americans and Irish who came in large numbers into Texas were immigrants into Mexico.

01:35:42.000 Period.

01:35:44.000 I understand, sir, but there wasn't six and a half, about to be seven million people at the mall trying to come here.

01:35:49.000 I mean, do you think we should just have unlimited?

01:35:50.000 How about 600 million?

01:35:52.000 Well, that's not the point I'm making.

01:35:54.000 In fact, if you look at ratios, by 1830, Anglos outnumbered the American immigrants who were coming from the American South in the majority.

01:36:08.000 I know, we didn't cross the border, the border crossed us, so now we're all getting along happily, and then I hear, hey, you're going to have to leave, Pilgrim.

01:36:16.000 Wait, who's having the lead?

01:36:18.000 I've got tons of video.

01:36:19.000 I mean, you say it's a minority of Hispanics that believe that, and I agree, but it is a sizable portion, sir, who says we don't like white people.

01:36:28.000 And see, I go out and protest the Klan.

01:36:30.000 I go out and protest the Aryan Nations. 1.00

01:36:31.000 I mean, we've done this.

01:36:32.000 I have the thrilling to kill me on video, and then I have to go protest a Hispanic group because to me they're exactly the same, and I don't care if they claim they've got all these past ills that happened to their grandpa's grandpa. 1.00

01:36:43.000 I haven't done anything. 0.91

01:36:45.000 Right.

01:36:46.000 And that's all I'm saying.

01:36:47.000 I get your point about... I didn't know it had Sam Houston charging over Mexicans.

01:36:54.000 I mean, they really... I think it would be good to have Mr. Navarro charging over the Mexicans. 1.00

01:37:00.000 Right.

01:37:00.000 And again, like I said, this was a Mexican Civil War.

01:37:04.000 And Americans outnumbered... American immigrants outnumbered the Mexican population, the Tejano population in Texas.

01:37:13.000 10 to 1.

01:37:14.000 So, I mean, you think now, you know, I don't know what estimates are on the percentage of... Hispanics are half, projected to be 75% within 30 years.

01:37:23.000 Well, I mean, right now, in Texas, it's 35%.

01:37:25.000 Nationwide, it's, I would say, 15%.

01:37:27.000 Hispanic generally, immigrant... It's actually higher than that now, sir.

01:37:32.000 Hispanics are the majority in the state.

01:37:36.000 Again, I mean, the last numbers I've seen, it's definitely in terms of the age group, if you look at the younger age group, it's more than that.

01:37:44.000 That was ten years ago, not anymore, sir.

01:37:46.000 If you're looking at who's coming up the demographic line.

01:37:48.000 I have the latest census projections.

01:37:51.000 But the question is there.

01:37:53.000 You're still talking about half, and you're still talking, you know, when you're talking about Americans in Texas, you're talking ten to one outnumbering Mexicans.

01:38:00.000 And so, it's not the parallel.

01:38:01.000 But most of the Mexicans, from what I've read, Professor, actually get, yeah, let's get Santa Ana out of here. 1.00

01:38:06.000 Right.

01:38:07.000 As did, like, half the Mexican nation at the time.

01:38:09.000 There was a huge Federalist movement going on.

01:38:11.000 Well, that's my point, is I just want Hispanics to not feel like Texas isn't theirs, and that they aren't part of this heritage.

01:38:16.000 Right.

01:38:17.000 But the thing is that the Texas story has been hijacked in a lot of ways, as you know.

01:38:25.000 And my editorial was an attempt to just add extra layers to that story.

01:38:33.000 Have you seen that big mural when you're at the San Antonio River ride and you see the big mural of the cultures coming together?

01:38:43.000 I don't like that.

01:38:44.000 I don't like this other business.

01:38:46.000 Again, it had to have been just Houston 1836.

01:38:48.000 Again, had it been just Houston in 1836, I think as an objective fact, Houston was founded in 1836.

01:38:54.000 Add the military part of it, and then it starts to become a little bit more But I'm saying, what does that say, though, that a large group of Hispanics would be offended?

01:39:03.000 Because I guess they are seeing themselves as Mexicans rather than Texians or Tejanos. 0.58

01:39:09.000 Well, but that's just it.

01:39:10.000 I mean, what's interesting, what I've seen that's interesting is when you write, you know, you don't have to agree with the past in order to be American.

01:39:19.000 Let me give you an analogy, and I'm not making any equation, but you don't have to say that slavery was good Or slavery was fine back then, you know.

01:39:29.000 You can say slavery was bad and still be considered an American, right? 0.87

01:39:33.000 And all I'm saying is we can have different views of, you know, Well, sir, I think you're very reasonable and we're going to let you go after Kevin has a few words with him because we've got Marty from Calvin Sub coming up for a few minutes here in the wings and I want to thank you for joining us.

01:39:52.000 You're very level-headed and very reasonable and I even kind of feel a little bit bad about being aggressive up front because I've had other professors up and they're just, hey, gringo, you're going to die! 1.00

01:40:00.000 And I'm like, thank you very much, because I just want to get along here, but at the same time, I'm not going to roll over.

01:40:07.000 Kevin Smith, you've got some comments and some history here.

01:40:09.000 Professor Ramos, I can tell you that Alex and I would much rather be Texians or Texicans, probably if it was all, you know, we had it to say, we'd rather Texas stay independent.

01:40:20.000 But, you know, recently we were at the Capitol and we had the head of LULAC call us through an association he thought we were supporting.

01:40:27.000 We were Minuteman, we're not. 1.00

01:40:28.000 But he said, we're stupid white devils. 0.99

01:40:31.000 And he was calling the Minuteman, and then I thought, well, Al Garza is the president of the Texas Minuteman Association. 1.00

01:40:36.000 That makes no sense.

01:40:37.000 I am so proud of my Texas culture.

01:40:39.000 I'm so proud of my Cherokee culture and my German culture.

01:40:44.000 And I am a Texan.

01:40:46.000 I am a melding of many cultures come together.

01:40:48.000 Right.

01:40:49.000 And I think everyone should be with you.

01:40:50.000 You're a bohemian.

01:40:52.000 My German relatives don't like the Czechs, but you know, we all are what we are.

01:40:56.000 We are Texas and we are unique and we have a lot to be proud of.

01:40:59.000 Right.

01:41:00.000 And to see people giving us the stink eye and telling us we're going to find out soon.

01:41:04.000 And I've gone to school with Hispanics.

01:41:06.000 I have fraternity brothers that are Hispanics that are serving in the DEA now.

01:41:10.000 And I never knew until recently, the last couple of years, that I was supposed to have a problem with them.

01:41:15.000 I guarantee you, I want Hispanic Texans on my side because I know what fighters they are. 0.96

01:41:21.000 We're friends with Selly Castillo.

01:41:23.000 Talk about true American patriots.

01:41:27.000 I'm glad the way this conversation went.

01:41:29.000 There's an event at the state capitol on March 3rd and 4th.

01:41:33.000 We're celebrating the 170th year of Texas independence.

01:41:36.000 Come on! 0.61

01:41:37.000 Come be part of it, sir.

01:41:39.000 That would be interesting and I would like to see how the different ways that it's being celebrated these days.

01:41:47.000 And I'm always happy to participate in conversations about the past and how we remember the past and the present.

01:41:54.000 Well, about ten years ago, I got invited to be a speaker at Texas Independence Day at UT, and the people dressed up in Aztec outfits ran up, grabbed the cake, threw it at us, There were blacks, Hispanics, whites up there giving a speech, and I didn't know that all this was going on. 0.99

01:42:10.000 So, now I've just found more and more out about it, and it's really scary.

01:42:15.000 Well, Professor, thank you for spending time with us.

01:42:17.000 Is there a particular subdomain, website, where some of your writings can be read at your university?

01:42:22.000 Well you can, if you go to the University of Houston webpage and look up the History Department and I'm listed on there and there's a CV, a resume that includes citations for my different publications and you can see other things I'm teaching in the department, American History, History of the American West, and my various research interests there.

01:42:47.000 Alright, thank you for joining us and spending the time.

01:42:49.000 It was good talking to you.

01:42:50.000 Take care, sir.

01:42:51.000 All right, there goes the professor.

01:42:53.000 Kevin, thanks for popping in with us.

01:42:54.000 You had a whole bunch of quotes.

01:42:55.000 Why don't you, before we go to Marty here, I really appreciate holding patiently from Calvin.

01:42:59.000 So, why don't you just read some of the Hispanics that died at the Alamo, and then, I mean, we've got hundreds of pages of this stuff here, and all the Hispanic heroes of different battles, which, again, the media doesn't want you to know about.

01:43:11.000 Well, I went to this site, it's the Houston Institute for Culture, and it's by a professor, John P. Schmall, and it's the Texas Revolution Tejano Patriots.

01:43:22.000 And it lists the 189 men who died in the Alamo, hailed from many parts of the globe.

01:43:27.000 They represented a truly multi-racial, multi-ethnic force, all gathered together in a common cause.

01:43:33.000 And I think that's what's important.

01:43:34.000 What is the cause?

01:43:35.000 We're fighting tyranny.

01:43:37.000 And that's what brought them together.

01:43:39.000 There were at least 32 that came from Tennessee.

01:43:41.000 Why from Tennessee?

01:43:42.000 Because these guys were tough Indian fighters.

01:43:44.000 That's why they moved to Tennessee.

01:43:46.000 The Volunteer State.

01:43:47.000 The Volunteer State.

01:43:48.000 Still known as it.

01:43:50.000 At least 10 of the Patriots came from England.

01:43:52.000 11 were from Ireland.

01:43:54.000 And that's a country that knew well the struggle against oppression.

01:43:56.000 They'd been fighting the British.

01:43:58.000 And then another 30 or so from Germany, Denmark, and other countries.

01:44:02.000 And as many of the Eighty of the Alamo defenders were actually documented residents of Texas.

01:44:08.000 So, the idea that, oh, they were all mercenaries who just came down a week before the battle is not quite true.

01:44:14.000 But in the Alamo battle, there were six actually born in Texas.

01:44:18.000 And, excuse me on some of these names, I can get most of them.

01:44:21.000 Juan Abilimo, Juan Bedillo, Carlos Espilar, Giorgio Esperanza, Antonio Fuentes, Andres Neva, And we get back to Jose Antonio Navarro.

01:44:36.000 I mean, this man was trying to secede from Spain and make Texas independent well before Mexico even took over.

01:44:43.000 And he was born here.

01:44:44.000 Born here.

01:44:45.000 Born and raised.

01:44:46.000 He was one of the signers of the Declaration of Texas Independence, which we're coming up on a celebration of that.

01:44:51.000 And as I said earlier to the professor, I am not ashamed... Well, he actually wrote it, so...

01:44:56.000 Oh, yes, he did write it.

01:44:57.000 I guess he gets to sign it when he writes it.

01:44:59.000 But, you know, I'm proud of what made Texas, Texas.

01:45:02.000 And I'll never be ashamed of that.

01:45:04.000 Well, let's boil it down.

01:45:05.000 We've got a lot of people from Central and Southern Mexico who, you know, cheer the Mexican soccer teams.

01:45:09.000 I think this is Mexico, too.

01:45:11.000 Kevin, thanks for joining us.

01:45:13.000 I really appreciate the time and the information.

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01:45:51.000 Marty, thank you for coming on with us.

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01:47:03.000 Marty, everybody who gets a bar of your hand soap, I mean, people are always smelling it. 0.86

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01:52:59.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:00.000 I know we haven't opened the phones up yet today, because we've had two great guests on.

01:53:05.000 And now our third guest, Marty, owner of Cal Bend, your subcompany out in Oakland, California.

01:53:10.000 You've been around since 1947, almost 60 years.

01:53:14.000 I can't say that about most companies.

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01:53:36.000 And it's so inexpensive.

01:53:38.000 And people say, well, why isn't your stuff on store shelves?

01:53:41.000 He sells to hospitals, he sells to wealthy people, he sells to folks that know for 50-something years, because they have a monopoly with the grocery stores to not let competition get in there.

01:53:51.000 It's not a free market, folks.

01:53:52.000 You need to give Marty a call.

01:53:53.000 Give him a call right now, 1-800-340-7091.

01:53:56.000 They got the phones off the hook there, though, so they can do this interview, or their phone system shuts down and they get so many calls.

01:54:03.000 So call him right when this interview ends.

01:54:05.000 Alex Jones, you're a bliss itself.

01:54:13.000 You win, you touch all bases.

01:54:16.000 If you were packaged on a shelf, I'd buy 12 dozen cases.

01:54:20.000 Your rating is quadruple A. At Genesis, you're the most.

01:54:25.000 Business-wise, I've got to say, you are my favorite host.

01:54:30.000 Marty, you're a sweetheart.

01:54:31.000 We'll talk to you soon.

01:54:32.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:54:33.000 You bet.

01:54:34.000 Folks, give Marty a call.

01:54:35.000 Marty loves being a sponsor.

01:54:36.000 He's been using the show for two years, and just said, oh, to get in as a sponsor, and now he's never had a response anywhere near it.

01:54:43.000 Well, obviously, unfortunately, so many of those other so-called Patriot shows on other networks really don't have any listeners.

01:54:48.000 Genesis has all the listeners, and this show has the most there.

01:54:51.000 Why?

01:54:52.000 I have no idea.

01:54:53.000 I guess people just know.

01:54:54.000 I'm telling it like it is, and I don't pull any punches, and I'm not calculating what I'm going to say next.

01:55:00.000 It's just the real deal and we appreciate you out there letting us have sponsors on occasionally because they're what makes this whole broadcast possible.

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01:55:39.000 There is so much news.

01:55:40.000 When we start the third hour, I'll go ahead and get to some of your calls.

01:55:44.000 I haven't given the number out yet today, but we have loaded phones.

01:55:47.000 I'm kind of always suspect of that because people hold forever and then we try to go to them and they're not there.

01:55:53.000 But your calls are coming up early in the next hour.

01:55:55.000 And then there's all this new torture news.

01:55:57.000 There's all this new police state news.

01:56:00.000 The cameras that are going up.

01:56:01.000 More details of what those are going to be doing and what's behind that.

01:56:06.000 More on Bush declaring himself a dictator, the Iran situation.

01:56:09.000 I've got to get through this stack of news.

01:56:11.000 So what I'll do is I'll go through a bank of calls, then I'll cover news.

01:56:14.000 We'll take more of your calls.

01:56:16.000 The toll-free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

01:56:22.000 And all we're here simply doing is exposing that America is turning into a police state.

01:56:29.000 That foreign corporations have masses of lobbyists openly paying off our politicians, selling out our sovereignty, selling out our industries, selling out our borders, selling out everything. 0.54

01:56:44.000 It's happening in plain view.

01:56:46.000 The UAE ports, that's nothing. 0.97

01:56:49.000 And Chuckie Schumer up there saying Bush has gone insane because they're terrorists.

01:56:54.000 The UAE is actually allies with the globalists, folks.

01:56:58.000 A British company already owned those ports.

01:57:00.000 The point is, why did our government sell it to them to begin with?

01:57:03.000 Why do the Communist Chinese have the Panama Canal and the Long Beach Naval Base out there, the only deep water port on the West Coast? 0.97

01:57:10.000 Why?

01:57:11.000 Because our infrastructure is being sold out to the lowest bidder.

01:57:15.000 That's right.

01:57:16.000 The first dibs are given to foreign companies as part of globalization, interconnectivity, mercantilism.

01:57:23.000 But the good news is the EU's expansion failed last year.

01:57:26.000 The Pan American Union failed last year.

01:57:28.000 So much is failing right now.

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01:57:40.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Now into the third and final hour.

01:58:10.000 Hard to believe it's gone past this fast.

01:58:13.000 If we have it ready, there's an 11-minute clip.

01:58:15.000 I'm not going to tell you what it is, but we're uploading it to the network in Minnesota right now, down here in Austin, Texas.

01:58:22.000 I'll play it near the end of the broadcast, if we're able to get it up there in time.

01:58:25.000 I think we're going to be able to do it, so we'll see what happens.

01:58:29.000 But that should be coming up, probably an 80% chance or more.

01:58:32.000 I don't want to say it's assured, though.

01:58:34.000 There's going to be a glitch or something.

01:58:35.000 Coming up near the end of the broadcast today.

01:58:37.000 So I just got it in my hot little hands about 30 minutes ago.

01:58:41.000 So that's coming up, kind of a mystery item.

01:58:44.000 And just a lot of news here on the police state and several other issues I want to cover.

01:58:48.000 Right now though, we're taking your calls, haven't had the phones open yet today.

01:58:51.000 I'm told Jeff in New Mexico disagrees with me, so he'll go to the front of the line.

01:58:57.000 Jeff you're on the air, welcome. 0.89

01:58:59.000 Yeah, what I disagree with is that you call people trailer trash.

01:59:05.000 You know what?

01:59:06.000 I may have said that before, but that's not really one of my cliched sayings.

01:59:12.000 So why do you say I said that?

01:59:13.000 I think you've called before claiming I said things I really don't think I said.

01:59:19.000 You say that you've never used the word trailer trash on your shows.

01:59:22.000 I've heard you use that phrase several times.

01:59:24.000 No, I may have said toothless ne'er-do-wells. 0.87

01:59:28.000 You know you got you say thank God for the renegade you like that song but you know by people being renegades and refusing to go along and to get along sometimes you know this happens quite a bit and if somebody can correct me that's fine I may have said that or a caller may have said trailer trash that I may have commented That's not really one of my sayings.

01:59:50.000 In fact, I have good friends that have a show called The Trailer Park Show here on local cable TV.

01:59:55.000 They're very proud of it.

01:59:56.000 They blew screen up a shot of a trailer behind them.

01:59:58.000 They don't live in a trailer.

02:00:00.000 I actually have family in East Texas who own homes, but they rent those out.

02:00:06.000 farmhouses and they choose to live in trailers and I think the problem is is that there are a lot of good people in trailer parks and a lot of good folks that live in trailers but then you also tend to find bad trailer parks full of trash and so hence that stereotype.

02:00:21.000 So I think you got the wrong person.

02:00:23.000 Well I think you may not be racist but I think you're somewhat classist. 1.00

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02:00:40.000 The masonic jerks that are behind the ever-increasing cost of building permits in urban areas, that drives good. 1.00

02:00:49.000 I think trailers are absolutely fabulous on your own 40 acres.

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02:01:00.000 You know what I really like is trailers you pull, and then you can go wherever you want.

02:01:04.000 They're nice.

02:01:05.000 What are you talking about?

02:01:06.000 I didn't say what you're saying.

02:01:07.000 I said, if I did, it was in another context. 0.98

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02:01:12.000 I mean, you may have heard me read that on air, but I think you're incorrect, sir.

02:01:18.000 Well, I live in what you'd call a small trailer, but I don't consider myself trailer trash, you know.

02:01:24.000 Well, sir, I don't... Listen, I don't think... Did you hear me?

02:01:27.000 I have family that own houses that choose to live in trailers because they can stick it quickly right where they want and every few years move it around, and that's what they do, and they're nice.

02:01:37.000 It's just...

02:01:38.000 I mean, you've got to admit there's going to be more trashy people in something that is lower cost on average.

02:01:44.000 Hence, you get the conversion rate that there's going to be more trash living in trailers than in $500,000 houses. 0.89

02:01:50.000 That does not mean you're trash because you live in a trailer.

02:01:53.000 Have you heard about, like in Alabama, there's thousands of trailers, these people that were wiped out by the hurricane? 0.87

02:02:01.000 Yeah, there's Alabama, Oklahoma, Denton, outside Dallas.

02:02:05.000 I've seen them.

02:02:06.000 There's tens of thousands in each state and the government bought them for that, but they're using them for emergency relocation, not for the hurricane.

02:02:14.000 You know, and some people are victims of the, you know, the plant closings.

02:02:19.000 They lose their jobs so they can't even get a protection job, you know.

02:02:22.000 Well, I tell you, for people that especially, this economy is imploding, I think it's a great idea, instead of living, instead of living in an apartment for 700 bucks a month with your family and never getting any type of ownership, it's better to buy an acre or two and put a trailer out there.

02:02:40.000 That's some good living.

02:02:41.000 I think it's great.

02:02:42.000 You got the wrong guy.

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02:05:52.000 I guess it was about 30 years ago, a radio talk show host named Dan Smoot I've read this several times online.

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02:06:52.000 Right now, let's continue with your phone calls.

02:06:54.000 Gary in South Dakota, thanks for holding.

02:06:57.000 Hi!

02:06:59.000 First time caller.

02:07:00.000 Welcome, sir.

02:07:01.000 Great to talk to you.

02:07:02.000 I wanted to disagree with you about something.

02:07:04.000 First, let me qualify it by saying in 1976, I read Gary Allen's book, None Dare Call It Currency.

02:07:13.000 Then I bought his book, The Rockefeller Files.

02:07:16.000 Well, let me just say, two people on the road disagreeing.

02:07:20.000 That's really good.

02:07:21.000 Go ahead.

02:07:21.000 Well, no, and then I bought Codex Magicka.

02:07:26.000 I think I bought it from your group.

02:07:28.000 I've been listening to Shortwave here recently, and I know there's another... Well, I mean, whenever I do, everyone copies, so now everyone's selling it, but that's fine, too.

02:07:35.000 Okay.

02:07:35.000 At the beginning of your... That's the most sincere form of flattery, by the way.

02:07:38.000 Okay, good.

02:07:39.000 At the beginning of your show, though, you said today that the The people in Iraq say that... I'll just phrase it right now, I don't want to forget your words.

02:07:55.000 You said it's not true that they say that they love our troops and stuff being over there.

02:07:59.000 Now my son just got out of the Marines in December.

02:08:03.000 He was in Iraq, he was in Afghanistan, he was in Kuwait with Special Forces.

02:08:08.000 He also was down in Haiti.

02:08:10.000 He earned two Purple Hearts.

02:08:12.000 Through accommodation, maybe accommodation.

02:08:14.000 Sir, I'm not knocking your son.

02:08:16.000 So, what I'm saying, this is the only thing I'm going to say.

02:08:22.000 He, several times, was complimented by Iraqi people that they wanted him there, and he felt very welcomed by just the poor, average people over there. 1.00

02:08:36.000 Well, they're very welcoming people.

02:08:38.000 Can I just say something about this?

02:08:40.000 You betcha, you go ahead.

02:08:42.000 Ian, our government has done its own internal polls that are public and 47% want to join the insurgency.

02:08:47.000 54% are now against this.

02:08:52.000 Beforehand, we were very popular there.

02:08:55.000 America was loved in Iraq.

02:08:56.000 We were big allies with them in the 1980s.

02:08:59.000 And then our government set Saddam up. 0.92

02:09:01.000 He was their agent.

02:09:02.000 They said, go ahead and invade Kuwait.

02:09:03.000 Go ahead and invade Iran. 0.98

02:09:04.000 And they set him up.

02:09:05.000 That's all publicly admitted.

02:09:07.000 So it's again treachery by us against them. 0.56

02:09:10.000 Then we told the Shiites to attack. 1.00

02:09:11.000 When they did, we didn't help them.

02:09:13.000 At the end of the Gulf War in 1991.

02:09:16.000 And yes, in polls when they first got there, around 75% were pro-America, and now that's plunged to less than half.

02:09:24.000 So I'm not saying there aren't people that throw candy at the troops, but more are now throwing rocks at the troops.

02:09:30.000 It doesn't lessen... Look, the troops are incredible!

02:09:32.000 I mean, you know...

02:09:33.000 They go in there, they do this, most of them.

02:09:35.000 It isn't just for a GED or a job or some college money.

02:09:39.000 Most of them do it.

02:09:41.000 I'm sure your son's wonderful, sir.

02:09:42.000 They do it because they believe we were attacked on 9-11 by Arabs and it must be Saddam.

02:09:47.000 They do it because they want to serve America, they want to be warriors.

02:09:50.000 What man who is a man doesn't want to fight?

02:09:53.000 I like to fight too, believe me.

02:09:54.000 I'd fight a lot more if I wouldn't go to jail for it.

02:09:57.000 I mean, I like it.

02:09:59.000 And I like guns, and I'd probably like going over there and fighting with people.

02:10:02.000 It's very instinctive.

02:10:03.000 It's what a man's supposed to do.

02:10:04.000 But you're supposed to do it at home, defending your family.

02:10:06.000 That's where that instinct comes from.

02:10:09.000 And so, you know, this is really simple.

02:10:11.000 I'm not lessening your son.

02:10:12.000 I'm not saying your son's bad.

02:10:14.000 I'm saying he deserves better than defective level 2 body armor.

02:10:18.000 I'm saying he shouldn't be breathing depleted uranium.

02:10:21.000 I'm saying that the majority of Iraqis now want your son out of there, and a large part of them want to kill your son, and I think your son's worth more than that. 0.98

02:10:31.000 I think your son ought to be on the Mexican border, where Mexican troops are killing American citizens, mainly Hispanics. 1.00

02:10:37.000 I agree with you. 0.95

02:10:38.000 If your son got killed fighting Mexican troops on the border, I would go to his funeral.

02:10:44.000 I didn't say you said you had any negative response about my son.

02:10:48.000 What I am saying... But I don't blame you as a father.

02:10:51.000 I got children.

02:10:51.000 And you know what?

02:10:52.000 I couldn't imagine if my son had the courage to go over there, and if my son had done that, and then somebody was even, you know, bad-mouthing the war, a lot of people think, hey, you're bad-mouthing my son.

02:11:01.000 No, I want to... I respect your son, and I want to get your son out of a bad place.

02:11:06.000 You know, I respect good cops.

02:11:08.000 That's why I think good cops shouldn't be getting blown away going after drug dealers of drugs that are shipped in by the government to begin with.

02:11:15.000 You're right, you're right.

02:11:17.000 Tell me what else your son says, though, about what's happening.

02:11:20.000 Plus, was your son there a year ago?

02:11:23.000 Because things have changed a lot in the last year.

02:11:26.000 He left in November.

02:11:28.000 Because Fallujah really turned the tide against him.

02:11:31.000 In fact, you know, when they found all those weapons in that cave, and it was like a football field long, all that stuff was stacked up?

02:11:41.000 It was his squad that found it.

02:11:43.000 Wow.

02:11:44.000 He was right in the midst of it.

02:11:47.000 And he got injured to the point where now the Veterans Administration has given him a 75% disability because he lost most of his hearing in one ear and he had head damage.

02:11:58.000 And one of the worst things is though he had one of his best friends die in his arm.

02:12:02.000 When an IED exploded on the side of the road and basically blew their Humvee about 15, 20 feet up in the air, came down upside down.

02:12:10.000 That's terrible.

02:12:12.000 And you know he...

02:12:13.000 What branch of the service is he in?

02:12:14.000 He was a Marine.

02:12:15.000 That's right, he said Marine.

02:12:16.000 He just got...

02:12:17.000 He was a squad leader of like six Humvees, three weapons companies.

02:12:22.000 Well ask your son this.

02:12:23.000 Ask your son what he's going to do.

02:12:25.000 And I know he's out now, but what is he going to do?

02:12:28.000 Because I've been there.

02:12:28.000 I've got video of the Marines trying to take our guns.

02:12:31.000 And again, I'm not against the Marines.

02:12:32.000 I have a lot of family that are Marines.

02:12:34.000 But when they... You know, it's like I'm pro-gun, but I'm against somebody using a gun wrong.

02:12:39.000 So I'm pro-Marine, I'm against the Marines being used wrong.

02:12:42.000 Right.

02:12:43.000 Well, I am too.

02:12:44.000 And we've talked about it some.

02:12:47.000 To be honest, when he came home, He was really stressed out, and there were times a week he couldn't talk to me.

02:12:56.000 I was kind of a figure of authority that he thought he didn't have to listen to because he'd led men in battle, and I'd never done that.

02:13:07.000 I mean, I was in college right after the Vietnam War and stuff, so I didn't have to worry about going to Vietnam or anything.

02:13:16.000 So, it skipped me.

02:13:17.000 His grandfather, my dad, Well, you know what's sick?

02:13:25.000 Your son is going to run into this.

02:13:27.000 He's going to have some young punk cop, 20 years from now, trying to take his guns.

02:13:27.000 It will happen.

02:13:32.000 Maybe two years from now.

02:13:33.000 And then I want your son to think, hey, I'm somebody who fought for this country, and now they want my gun.

02:13:37.000 You know what happens?

02:13:38.000 Bill Clinton did this when he left office, and Bush has continued it.

02:13:41.000 They're now denying soldiers who had post-traumatic stress or any other problem, they're now denying them their Second Amendment.

02:13:48.000 Your son, don't worry, he'll be on our side soon enough.

02:13:51.000 He's already one of the leading guards now at the State Pen here in Sioux Falls.

02:13:57.000 And he's going to college.

02:13:59.000 We're doing that as a full-time job.

02:14:01.000 Going to college.

02:14:01.000 He wants to become a Baptist preacher.

02:14:04.000 Well, congratulations on that.

02:14:06.000 Is your son aware of what's going on now?

02:14:08.000 Yeah, I've been talking to him about it.

02:14:11.000 I just dug out my shortwave radio here about Two and a half, three months ago.

02:14:15.000 So I just basically started listening to you just in the last quarter year.

02:14:18.000 Well, you know what you've got to get?

02:14:20.000 You've got to get Police State 2000 or Road to Tyranny.

02:14:23.000 And in Road to Tyranny, you will see a man who was a marine captain.

02:14:27.000 That's all I can say.

02:14:28.000 Who then became a police officer.

02:14:29.000 Now he owns a computer company.

02:14:31.000 Very well off.

02:14:32.000 I'm not going to say more than that.

02:14:33.000 But he got stopped at a military army checkpoint in Austin, randomly searching cars.

02:14:38.000 He got so mad, he called me, showed me all these documents.

02:14:40.000 I mean, he protected space command bases, okay?

02:14:44.000 And he was in Secret Ops raiding gun dealers in 1988 and 89.

02:14:49.000 And then I have the Marines on video at Urban Warfare Drills training to take our guns.

02:14:55.000 Now I want your son to watch that, and I want him to tell us, is he on the Constitution side, and his daddy's right to own a rifle side, or is he on the New World Order side?

02:15:03.000 Well, he definitely knows he's against the New World Order, because I've been talking about that for years.

02:15:09.000 I mean, everything from, you know, when I started reading this stuff back in the early 70s, and You know, I'm basically a Bible prophecy believer and I've been studying this for years.

02:15:18.000 So he's been hearing it all his life.

02:15:20.000 Well, then you made sure he was a straight arrow.

02:15:20.000 Well, good.

02:15:23.000 You fired him in the right direction.

02:15:25.000 He's going to turn out good.

02:15:26.000 His stress level has now decreased a lot now.

02:15:28.000 He's met a girl.

02:15:29.000 He wants to get married.

02:15:31.000 Good.

02:15:32.000 So things are a lot better.

02:15:33.000 Well, you're blessed and you're blessed.

02:15:35.000 God bless you.

02:15:35.000 He's back in one piece.

02:15:36.000 Take care.

02:15:37.000 Good to hear from you.

02:15:38.000 I said I'd hurry through calls and I can't because Gary was a great caller.

02:15:42.000 You know, it's tough, because people don't understand.

02:15:43.000 I'm not saying Gary did this, but people don't understand.

02:15:45.000 I get up here and say this war is an atrocity and an abomination and a shame.

02:15:50.000 People think, well, hey, my son or daughter's over there.

02:15:51.000 Well, listen!

02:15:53.000 You know, Germans stayed in the war because they're like, my son and daughter isn't bad. 1.00

02:15:58.000 My son's brave.

02:15:59.000 My son's fighting.

02:16:00.000 My son's leading men.

02:16:01.000 And who Hitler was fighting was pretty evil, you know?

02:16:04.000 Stalin. 0.56

02:16:05.000 But it still didn't mean that Hitler was good. 0.84

02:16:08.000 And what he did was wrong, and he got 20 million Germans killed, 4 million German troops killed.

02:16:14.000 Now, boy, you sure supported the troops, Germans.

02:16:17.000 You sure fed 4 million of them into a meat grinder.

02:16:21.000 20 million Germans died, and Germany was only 65 million at that time.

02:16:26.000 20 million Germans died.

02:16:27.000 It took them decades to get back up to 65 million.

02:16:31.000 And now they're like 80 million or something.

02:16:32.000 But I mean, imagine, you're a 65 million people and 20 million are dead at the end of it.

02:16:38.000 Now don't you wish you wouldn't have, quote, supported the troops.

02:16:41.000 I support the troops. 0.98

02:16:41.000 I'm going to stick my son in a meat grinder. 0.98

02:16:43.000 By the way, we're going to break here and come back with our calls, but I never got into my stack today. 0.75

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02:16:57.000 Fox News is basically calling for Cheney to resign.

02:16:59.000 Neocons now, he's in trouble. 1.00

02:17:01.000 I mean, he's in trouble.

02:17:02.000 Ridge White House should explain port deal.

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02:21:42.000 Let me just read to you out of the Times of London. 0.87

02:22:02.000 You UK radiation junk blamed on Iraq's shells.

02:22:05.000 Now they've used tens of thousands of tons.

02:22:08.000 They've used three to four times.

02:22:10.000 They say three to four.

02:22:11.000 We don't know what they used in the first Gulf War and our own government's numbers are.

02:22:15.000 We've had triple the birth defects.

02:22:17.000 In our troops, that there isn't any other population group.

02:22:20.000 Triple the birth defects, and it's much higher with the Iraqis. 1.00

02:22:23.000 But see, a lot of people snicker, ha ha ha, their kids are all being born totally deformed.

02:22:29.000 It's like a fun neocon.

02:22:30.000 Pleasure.

02:22:32.000 Turn the whole place into a parking lot.

02:22:35.000 Like you get away with that in life.

02:22:37.000 Like whatever you do to somebody doesn't come back on you. 1.00

02:22:40.000 You reap what you sow, fools. 0.99

02:22:43.000 UK radiation jump blamed on Iraqi shells. 0.96

02:22:46.000 Radiation detectors in Britain recorded a four-fold, mmm, four times increase in uranium levels in the atmosphere after the shock and awe bombing campaign against Iraq, according to a report.

02:22:58.000 And we have the same report out of the US.

02:23:01.000 Environmental scientists, it gets in the jet stream.

02:23:04.000 I mean, all the time we get dirt on our cars and they go, oh, that was from Malaysia, or that blew in from Mongolia, or that blew in from Afghanistan. 0.99

02:23:11.000 Environmental scientists who uncovered the figures through Freedom of Information laws say it is evidence that the depleted uranium from the shells was carried by the wind currents to Britain.

02:23:20.000 Government officials, however, say the sharp rise in uranium detection by radiation monitors in Brookshire was a coincidence and probably came from local sources.

02:23:28.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter if there's reports all over the world.

02:23:31.000 See, I've got to go get all those other reports and post them together.

02:23:33.000 It's all a coincidence.

02:23:34.000 And then you read, it's the exact same isotope from the depleted uranium, which is very specific, but that's an accident.

02:23:40.000 It's good for you.

02:23:43.000 The results from the testing stations at the Atomic Weapons Establishment, AWE, in Albert, Maston, and four other stations within a 10-mile radius were obtained by Chris Busby, ...of Liverpool University's Department of Human, Anatomy and Cell Biology.

02:23:59.000 Each detector recorded a significant rise in uranium levels during the Gulf War bombing campaign.

02:24:05.000 In March of 2003, and it's still high by the way, the reading from the park in Redding was high enough for the Environmental Agency to be alerted.

02:24:12.000 Alarms go off.

02:24:13.000 They actually have alarms in them and they had to alert them about it.

02:24:17.000 Radiation alarms going off, no problem.

02:24:20.000 Busby, who has advised the government on radiation and is the founder of Green Audit, the environmental consultancy, believes uranium aerosols from Iraq were widely dispersed in the atmosphere and blown across Europe.

02:24:31.000 The research shows that rather than remaining near the target, as claimed by the military, depleted uranium weapons contaminate both locals and whole populations hundreds of thousands of miles away.

02:24:41.000 He said, well, yeah, I mean, Chernobyl made it over here to the U.S.

02:24:44.000 Not as bad as over there, but still pretty bad.

02:24:46.000 But, I mean, by the way, I've got major studies about within a hundred miles, and of course it'll follow the air patterns.

02:24:55.000 You know, in all these maps and studies, of course, just what you think will happen does.

02:24:58.000 They follow the air current, the main air current, and you will see that most of the DU is distributed out from localized winds within 100 miles of the 10 proving grounds in the United States.

02:25:13.000 From Alabama to New Mexico to Nevada to Texas to New York, upstate New York, To the island off the coast there of Puerto Rico, they are testing DU by the tons.

02:25:27.000 By the tons.

02:25:29.000 There's more than ten.

02:25:31.000 Ten major testing grounds and all the other places they have tank battles with the Abrams tanks and they let the Abrams shoot old tanks and it is so deadly.

02:25:41.000 It is so poisonous, the radiation, and we've had top scientists on, people who worked for the Pentagon, people who wrote the book on DU.

02:25:50.000 It is so bad, the Army's own manual said, the Major Mining Association documents, where they mine uranium itself, talk about how deadly DU is, but the military for the last 10 years does not allow the distribution of those field manuals or those videos to the troops, they do not tell them.

02:26:08.000 And the generals even move in to bases that have been bombed with it.

02:26:11.000 All they do is come in with dump trucks and dump sand on the blast points.

02:26:14.000 And that does alleviate it some.

02:26:17.000 It binds it up in the soil, but only means that it's going to be disturbed for even longer periods.

02:26:22.000 They don't even remove it.

02:26:25.000 So, it is just unbelievable, and again, it's a delusional spirit that these people have.

02:26:32.000 I don't care.

02:26:33.000 I mean, they even fool themselves.

02:26:35.000 Oh no, DU's good.

02:26:36.000 Oh no, sodium fluoride and stannous fluoride's good for me.

02:26:39.000 Well, all the studies say it's deadly. 0.93

02:26:40.000 Don't be crazy.

02:26:40.000 Oh, it's good.

02:26:42.000 Oh, I love genetically modified food.

02:26:43.000 Well, all the studies say it's very toxic.

02:26:45.000 I love it, though.

02:26:46.000 I'm good.

02:26:47.000 Well, you know, all the studies show cigarettes kill you.

02:26:49.000 Well, I'm gonna smoke it.

02:26:50.000 Well, all the studies show that aspartame's deadly.

02:26:53.000 I don't care.

02:26:54.000 I'm gonna do it.

02:26:57.000 We're gonna come back and play this little 11-minute clip, then take three or four more of your calls.

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02:27:10.000 I'll take those calls.

02:27:11.000 Maybe even a few before we play this.

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02:30:45.000 Empires going cycles.

02:30:55.000 Free peoples become decadent.

02:30:57.000 Their children become decadent.

02:30:58.000 Their grandchildren even more decadent.

02:31:00.000 They forget the Basic ideas, the basic tenets, the basic values that made them so free and prosperous, and then they become enslaved again.

02:31:11.000 So I want to go ahead and roll this little piece.

02:31:13.000 It's 11 minutes long, and we'll come back and take some more calls and get a few final news pieces.

02:31:18.000 Stay with us.

02:31:18.000 Here it is.

02:31:21.000 Honoria.

02:31:22.000 Taylor Caldwell, internationally famous American novelist, wrote the story of Honoria for the Dan Smoot Report.

02:31:30.000 Honoria was once a great nation.

02:31:32.000 Her story is taken from the pages of recorded history and it is a poignant commentary on our time when citizens who love their country and who grieve to see it being destroyed by the policies of its own leaders are branded as super patriots and extremists.

02:31:48.000 What was Honoria?

02:31:50.000 And what was her fate?

02:31:52.000 Who made her great?

02:31:53.000 And who were her enemies?

02:31:55.000 Were the enemies within or were they without?

02:31:59.000 That is the story of Honoria.

02:32:01.000 Which I will tell after a message from my sponsors.

02:32:08.000 Once upon a time some courageous men wanting to be free became pilgrims and migrated to an uncivilized land inhabited only by barbarians. 0.98

02:32:18.000 When they landed in that savage region they stood upon a great rock.

02:32:22.000 There they did homage to their God for guiding them during their arduous journey.

02:32:27.000 To this day that rock is one of the most famous monuments in the world.

02:32:32.000 One of the first things they did was to build a house of worship.

02:32:35.000 They had a special day in the year for giving thanks.

02:32:39.000 And they would walk through the silent fields and wild forests on that day, armed and watchful against the savages.

02:32:45.000 The pilgrims were stern, believing in hard work and self-discipline, intolerant of wrongdoing.

02:32:51.000 They had no patience with the weak and degenerate, who, if they are pampered, become the cancer of a nation.

02:32:58.000 Their tiny villages became towns and then cities. 0.53

02:33:02.000 Other colonists came and established other colonies.

02:33:05.000 Under the shadow of old, powerful nations, they had one thing in common.

02:33:10.000 They had fled from oppression.

02:33:13.000 They had had enough of endless wars, endless taxation, endless bureaucrats, endless arrogant rulers.

02:33:20.000 The colonies flourished.

02:33:22.000 The breath of freedom blew over them like a mighty wind, clear, sharp, invigorating, stirring men's souls, lighting up their hearts.

02:33:31.000 Strengthening their arms, making their spirits incandescent.

02:33:36.000 Cobbled streets began to ring with the footsteps of great men, with the sound of heroic voices, in this cluster of colonies we have called Honoria.

02:33:47.000 Then one of the old countries, despising the simplicity and moral laws of the colonies, sent tax agents to the big city of the pilgrims.

02:33:56.000 Word of the terror ran through the colonies like the sound of a drum awakening free men To the knowledge of Perro. 0.99

02:34:03.000 The colonies sent their greatest men as representatives to a general assembly of all the colonies.

02:34:09.000 They looked about for a leader and found him.

02:34:11.000 A prosperous gentleman farmer, but a man of learning.

02:34:15.000 He united the colonies and became known as the father of his country.

02:34:20.000 The new nation had two houses of government.

02:34:23.000 The most powerful was the Senate.

02:34:26.000 No one could be elected to the Senate unless he was a man of honor, patriotism, and religion.

02:34:32.000 But that was in the early days of the Republic.

02:34:35.000 Honoria in those days distrusted militarism, hated wars. 0.97

02:34:40.000 Her ideal was freedom under God.

02:34:43.000 The Senators knew they must support the Republic and shun intrigue with foreign nations or suffer severe punishment.

02:34:52.000 For a long time the Senators did not betray their people.

02:34:57.000 A civil war divided the Republic ultimately, a bloody, fratricidal war.

02:35:03.000 After that war and the vengeance which followed, Honoria enjoyed power and prosperity, but she mysteriously changed direction. 0.60

02:35:13.000 Tens of thousands of new immigrants came to Honoria from the old countries.

02:35:18.000 Some were like the ancient pilgrims, fleeing from oppression, but many came because Honoria was rich.

02:35:26.000 And they cared nothing for her traditions.

02:35:29.000 The Republic, which had grown strong by not engaging in foreign entanglements, now became entangled.

02:35:37.000 What was the purpose of the entanglements?

02:35:40.000 Oh, the leaders said alliances were necessary to defend the civilized world.

02:35:45.000 But the real purpose was to satisfy the greedy ambitions and allay the sickly fears of the leaders.

02:35:53.000 The alliances brought war.

02:35:55.000 And the wars brought taxes.

02:35:57.000 But the citizens of Honoria did not resist because war also brought an increase in trade and industry.

02:36:05.000 The citizens of Honoria, enjoying their new prosperity, did not mind the taxation at first.

02:36:11.000 Their leaders had told them it would be imposed only on the rich. 0.91

02:36:15.000 The silly citizens nodded their heads, let the rich fellows pay and support the rest of the country. 0.96

02:36:22.000 The citizens were beginning to think of security. 0.99

02:36:25.000 They wanted public auditoriums for sports, paid for by tax money.

02:36:30.000 They wanted pensions, support at public expense, when they felt disinclined to work.

02:36:35.000 And more and more citizens were becoming disinclined to work.

02:36:40.000 Buying support from greedy groups and minorities, government became all-powerful. 1.00

02:36:45.000 It guaranteed to protect people from all the forces of nature, floods, hurricanes, landslides, failure of crops, taxation grew, and freedom withered.

02:36:56.000 Honoria had been distinguished by a strong, industrious middle class composed of farmers, artisans, shopkeepers. 0.59

02:37:04.000 But the middle class opposed an all-powerful government which used tax money to buy political support from the worthless, the loafers, the whining cowards who wanted everything for nothing. 0.68

02:37:16.000 Government decided to get rid of the middle class. 0.97

02:37:20.000 Then the political elite could rule by oppression.

02:37:24.000 And the cowards and the worthless could live on the bodies of the noble and the heroic through taxation.

02:37:31.000 But the greedy mobs could never be satisfied. 0.71

02:37:34.000 They always howled for more.

02:37:37.000 Government built huge housing projects with swimming pools and free food.

02:37:41.000 Within a year or two the housing projects became slums.

02:37:45.000 For people with slum personalities inhabited them.

02:37:48.000 The swimming pools collected garbage.

02:37:51.000 But still the howl went up for more.

02:37:53.000 And the politicians, now the creatures of the mobs, tried to provide everything the mobs demanded.

02:38:00.000 And the middle class, the backbone of the nation, they dared not have children. 0.61

02:38:06.000 They couldn't afford them.

02:38:07.000 They worked in vain trying to get ahead of their tax bills, trying to live, trying to keep their schools alive for their children.

02:38:15.000 The middle class, the hardworking, the proud, the self-reliant, slowly smothered from despair.

02:38:22.000 Who cared?

02:38:23.000 The mob had a full belly today, and the government promised to fill it again tomorrow.

02:38:29.000 Freedom?

02:38:30.000 Why, the people did not want freedom.

02:38:32.000 They wanted free entertainment, free bread, free housing.

02:38:36.000 An evil old man, crippled and malformed, led the nation into more wars and foreign entanglements. 1.00

02:38:43.000 He was the ruler of Honoria. 0.98

02:38:46.000 Patriots were considered scoundrels.

02:38:49.000 The rulers of Honoria were tools, not only of the mobs, but of foreigners. 1.00

02:38:54.000 An old general who had been victimized by the government stood up and cried aloud to Honoria to remember her past, to return to honor, to the principles of the founding fathers, to God.

02:39:06.000 The people howled that he was a warmonger.

02:39:10.000 A senator dared to stand up in the Senate and cry a halt to foreign subversion of Honoria and to the foreign aid and the draining away of the people's money.

02:39:19.000 The other senators shrieked him down and called him by a name.

02:39:24.000 Honoria joined the League of the World with her enemies. 0.50

02:39:27.000 They exploited Honoria. 0.74

02:39:29.000 She taxed her citizens more and more to send her wheat and her meat to those nations. 1.00

02:39:35.000 Foreign tyrants and domestic mobs called the tune, and the spineless rulers of Honoria danced. 0.97

02:39:42.000 The walls of government ended to the ever-growing demands of foreign aid.

02:39:48.000 More security, more bread, more sports, more government, more restrictions on the proud and the self-respecting.

02:39:55.000 Finally, the foreign barbarians, who had grown strong on the wealth of Honoria, while Honoria wanted from within, moved in and took over. 0.99

02:40:06.000 What is the real name of Honoria?

02:40:09.000 Ancient Rome.

02:40:11.000 After Rome fell, there was a long black night of slavery and despair.

02:40:17.000 Nearly 2,000 years stand between us and Rome.

02:40:21.000 Yet never before did two nations so fearfully resemble each other in history, in grandeur, in wealth.

02:40:29.000 In strange and amazing ways, we are the counterpart of ancient Rome.

02:40:36.000 So long as Rome remained Rome, patriotic, proud, and virtuous, she remained a powerful nation.

02:40:44.000 When she became internationalistic, Permitting her rulers to become dictators, to enmesh Rome with the problems of aliens, and bankrupted her own people to support those aliens, Rome began to die.

02:40:59.000 Can America be saved from the fate of Rome?

02:41:03.000 She can, if Americans still have courage.

02:41:06.000 Do they have courage?

02:41:08.000 Many of the most prosperous and influential among us do not.

02:41:12.000 They are afraid to resist the policies of all powerful governments, Afraid of social ostracism?

02:41:19.000 Afraid of public attacks in the press?

02:41:20.000 Afraid of losing business?

02:41:22.000 Afraid of losing votes?

02:41:24.000 Above all, they fear persecution by the Internal Revenue Service.

02:41:29.000 But if we do not begin to fight, our nation will die within our lifetime.

02:41:34.000 We fight now, or our posterity will be enslaved.

02:41:39.000 We need fear no foreign invasion.

02:41:41.000 We shall be destroyed by our enemies within, if we are destroyed.

02:41:47.000 If we fight now, we have a good chance to remain free.

02:41:52.000 What you have just heard is a summary of the story of ancient Rome as told and applied to contemporary American problems by Taylor Caldwell, internationally famous American novelist.

02:42:04.000 Alright.

02:42:06.000 And we'll be posting the video of that up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com by tomorrow, perhaps even today.

02:42:13.000 Tomorrow on my TV show, I'm going to play that.

02:42:16.000 But no, that's exactly what happened.

02:42:17.000 And then the foreign lobbyists began to come in and pay off Rome to basically do their dirty work, not just for Rome to be an empire. 0.58

02:42:25.000 And it all fell apart.

02:42:26.000 A bunch of little old men in their ivory towers thinking it would just go on and on and on until Alaric in, what, 410? 0.95

02:42:34.000 When the Visigoths finally sacked Rome completely. 0.73

02:42:39.000 I mean, it had been sacked before that.

02:42:40.000 Then we had the twin empires and the two emperors.

02:42:43.000 And the new emperor was always the next top general.

02:42:45.000 The next top general would always kill the Caesar, or normally would, and then they'd put him in and he'd be killed, in some cases a month later.

02:42:51.000 And that's the problem with dictatorships.

02:42:54.000 That's the problem with the presidency saying, I'm above the Senate.

02:42:57.000 I'm above the law.

02:42:58.000 I am the law.

02:43:00.000 If you don't pass the Patriot Act, I'll just keep enforcing it.

02:43:04.000 I don't care if the Congressional Budget Office or the General Accounting Offices both say that buying billions of dollars in fake newscasts is illegal.

02:43:14.000 I'm gonna do it!

02:43:15.000 I'm the President! 0.99

02:43:16.000 I can torture little kids if I want! 1.00

02:43:18.000 I can invade who I want, when I want!

02:43:20.000 This is what they're saying every day!

02:43:23.000 Every day!

02:43:25.000 Bob Barr gets up in front of a big symposium with thousands of top Republicans and says, we cannot let the President be a dictator.

02:43:31.000 I have the transcript here.

02:43:32.000 We cannot let him be above the law.

02:43:34.000 Boo! 0.83

02:43:35.000 Boo! 0.83

02:43:36.000 No, we want a Caesar!

02:43:38.000 It's like Israel wanting a king, wanting Saul. 0.85

02:43:42.000 Boo! 0.83

02:43:43.000 We want it!

02:43:44.000 Give it to us!

02:43:45.000 I mean, they literally... We want it!

02:43:47.000 Give it to us!

02:43:48.000 Because they're gonna be the minions.

02:43:50.000 They're gonna be the judges.

02:43:51.000 They're gonna be the... They wanna be part of it, folks.

02:43:53.000 You know how much power you get?

02:43:54.000 You know how much wealth you get being a dictator or one of his minions?

02:43:58.000 It's just... That's the biggest fortunes in history.

02:44:01.000 Bill Gates is nothing!

02:44:03.000 And it's happening right now in America, by every yardstick, by every measurement, by every indice.

02:44:10.000 Let's take a few final calls and I've got some really key news to hit here at the end.

02:44:13.000 Damien in Arizona, you're on the air.

02:44:15.000 Hi Alex, how are you doing?

02:44:17.000 Good sir.

02:44:18.000 Thank you so much for what you just shared, that 11 minute program and what you're sharing in general for this planet.

02:44:26.000 I need to hear these messages.

02:44:29.000 Anyone who stands up against injustice and fights against the greed of this planet is going to encounter great opposition.

02:44:35.000 So I just want to offer you that word of encouragement.

02:44:39.000 Well, as things get worse and worse, though, we're going to have more and more people that want to join us.

02:44:43.000 Yes, brother.

02:44:45.000 Alex, have you heard of Gabriel Sedona?

02:44:48.000 He's a spiritual leader and a musician.

02:44:50.000 No, I haven't.

02:44:51.000 Okay.

02:44:53.000 I represent a A record label, non-profit record label in Sedona.

02:44:57.000 We just sent you a couple songs that he wrote, one of them called Wake Up America, and one of them called The Great American Dream.

02:45:05.000 I can send a lot of great music, I'll be sure and listen to it.

02:45:07.000 Yeah, please listen to Gabriel Sedona's music.

02:45:11.000 We sent you a package and he's also a spiritual leader and he'd be open to being a call-in guest on your show.

02:45:19.000 Basically, he speaks out against the injustices of this planet.

02:45:23.000 Well, let me check it out.

02:45:24.000 Please do.

02:45:25.000 And not only, what's unique about his message is he not only points out the problems, which there are, of course, are plenty.

02:45:32.000 He's got solutions.

02:45:33.000 What are the solutions?

02:45:35.000 Boil it down for me.

02:45:36.000 Summation.

02:45:37.000 Okay, well, he started a movement called the Spiritualution, which is basically a spiritual revolution.

02:45:47.000 You know, the change comes, starts, yes, it's within It's within the country, it's within the... No, but it does start with the individual, you're right.

02:45:54.000 It does start within the individual, and that's the first line of his song, Wake Up America.

02:46:00.000 Alright, well I can't wait to check it out.

02:46:01.000 Thank you for the call, Damien, good to hear from you.

02:46:04.000 Leo, in California, gotta move quicker because I got some news I want to hit.

02:46:08.000 Leo, go ahead.

02:46:08.000 Alright, thank you, Alex.

02:46:10.000 I'm just calling to let people know basically just how easy it is to wake people up, like down here in Bakersfield, California, where I'm at.

02:46:17.000 I'm just making a... Actually, I set a goal of Or at least giving out 20 of your DVDs a day.

02:46:24.000 Plus I have friends of mine that I met by giving out your films that go to university and a local college here and they're giving them out to the students.

02:46:32.000 So now instead of you just doing it, you found like-minded minds and it's geometric.

02:46:36.000 It's exponential.

02:46:37.000 Yeah, it's working that way and I'm meeting people and we're kind of collaborating.

02:46:40.000 I even want to screen some here and we're just kind of Going with the flow, you know?

02:46:44.000 So it's actually working out.

02:46:45.000 I even get, like, loose change out and... How long have you been doing this?

02:46:49.000 Uh, for about two months straight now.

02:46:51.000 I've learned about... Good job!

02:46:52.000 I've learned about, like... Well, during your show, it's a three-hour show, I've learned about 40 copies.

02:46:56.000 Are the young people responding to getting out of the left-right false paradigm?

02:47:00.000 Oh, people waking up here big time, especially the young people.

02:47:02.000 And I've noticed, for instance, because I'm half Hispanic, so I talk to a lot of Hispanic people, um, they're waking up faster and, um... That's what I found.

02:47:09.000 Now, I found Hispanics really wake up quick. 1.00

02:47:11.000 African Americans are already awake.

02:47:13.000 They're telling me the stuff that I don't even know.

02:47:17.000 Actually, I have a hard time waking up a lot of older folks, especially my girlfriend's grandpa who's in the military.

02:47:24.000 Well, I mean, you've got people like white folks think they're the elite and they think they're on top of all this.

02:47:28.000 Well, they think they're part of the system.

02:47:29.000 Well, yeah.

02:47:30.000 A lot of even white folks are unconscious. 0.94

02:47:32.000 They may be 20 years old and they don't know why they feel so secure, but you need to explain to them, no, it's your turn to get, you know, screwed around now.

02:47:39.000 Well, I was watching a movie, Pearl Harbor, with my girlfriend's grandpa and he said, well, yeah, I told him, yeah, they knew about that ahead of time.

02:47:46.000 And I, you know, I told him the whole story.

02:47:47.000 He kind of laughed at me and said, of course they knew and kind of rationalized it. 0.96

02:47:51.000 I talked about Operation Northwood, and he told me I was a liar, and I was full of crap, and then I got a book called The Body of Secrets.

02:47:58.000 Yeah, James Bamford, a former producer of 2020. 0.78

02:48:01.000 Yeah, and then he read some of that, and he just kind of looked at me, and kind of like shut up, and didn't have too much to say after that.

02:48:09.000 Well, it's not our opinion.

02:48:10.000 You can go to... I didn't know this.

02:48:12.000 I learned... I mean, I don't know.

02:48:13.000 People think I know everything.

02:48:14.000 I don't know anything.

02:48:15.000 I mean, I just know more than most.

02:48:17.000 You can go to the CIA's website.

02:48:20.000 And they admit a whole bunch of terrorist stuff they've done, and blaming it on people.

02:48:24.000 I mean, I don't know what you're... You're at CIA.gov and they're admitting it!

02:48:27.000 I mean, I don't... Thanks for the call, good to hear you're doing that.

02:48:31.000 Okay, I really fast gotta go to Chris in Florida on the other side, because I got like five other articles I just want to mention briefly.

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02:51:54.000 All right, welcome back.

02:51:57.000 Quickly, last crawler I have time to go to.

02:52:00.000 Sorry to all the others.

02:52:01.000 Chris in Florida.

02:52:02.000 My Floridian, how are you doing?

02:52:04.000 Pretty decent, great.

02:52:05.000 How are you?

02:52:06.000 Pretty good, sir.

02:52:06.000 What's on your mind?

02:52:07.000 Yeah, I'm well.

02:52:08.000 I'm calling about whatever I can fit in the ozone that can be used medicinally.

02:52:14.000 Ozone can be used for bacteria, fungus, viruses, parasites.

02:52:18.000 I don't know if you could talk to someone like Ed McCabe.

02:52:21.000 I know you've had a caller recommend his books where he talks about hydrogen peroxide, but he also talks about ozone.

02:52:27.000 The reason that it's outlawed in this country is because you can't profit from it.

02:52:31.000 It can't be trademarked or patented.

02:52:33.000 No, I know.

02:52:34.000 I mean, they have ozone machines that make it on the ground.

02:52:36.000 Ozone is destroyed and lays on the ground.

02:52:39.000 The ozone layer is not having a hole leading through it.

02:52:42.000 All the real science shows that there's normally a hole in the ozone layer, depending on what time of year it is.

02:52:48.000 Right, that's a natural response to whenever you have too much pollution that's frozen to fill in the hole and to be generated because it's formed by either ultraviolet light or electrical light.

02:52:56.000 No, that's the basic science and they, look, the patents ran out on it.

02:53:01.000 The patents ran out on Freon, so they just did all this, part and parcel, to force us onto new refrigeration systems.

02:53:08.000 But, uh, medicinally, I mean, when it comes to the bird flu or viruses, like HIV, it destroys them because it destroys the I've heard people claim it destroys stuff like anthrax, and that's not true.

02:53:22.000 Anthrax is very close to a plant, the bacterium is, and it's inside a seed pod, and it doesn't destroy it, and people lie and say that.

02:53:30.000 Thanks for the call.

02:53:31.000 But yes, ozone is very medicinal, and I appreciate your call on that, sir.

02:53:36.000 We're out of time.

02:53:38.000 New Face ID system for China.

02:53:42.000 This is out of Cool Tech Online.

02:53:43.000 A biometric face recognition system has been approved in China, the People's Daily has reported, and will be used in the country nationwide for ID purposes, including surveillance and security.

02:53:52.000 And they say the cameras they put up nationwide, their defense department, they don't hide it, People's Liberation Army, will be used to face scan and track everyone.

02:53:59.000 Now, in America that pioneered all this and already had it in years ago, The only place to admit it was, uh, what, Virginia Beach and Tampa did it.

02:54:08.000 But if you read the documents, most of these cameras are hooked into face scanning software.

02:54:13.000 They're just now announcing it.

02:54:15.000 See, here it is, is the Daily Pennsylvanian.

02:54:18.000 Bill could lead the cameras on city streets.

02:54:20.000 If voters and council members approve, Philadelphia will join a small group of cities using cameras to police the streets, something Penn has done for years.

02:54:27.000 See?

02:54:28.000 And so all over the country they're now announcing it.

02:54:31.000 Chicago, Dallas, Houston, they want them in your house now, yeah.

02:54:36.000 Hey, all these cameras we put in, guess what?

02:54:38.000 We got a new idea.

02:54:40.000 They have microphones hanging off of them, too.

02:54:42.000 We'll use this to watch you.

02:54:44.000 It's only after 9-11, though.

02:54:45.000 It was never our plan to use it for that.

02:54:49.000 So see, in China they just go, hey, we're gonna watch you.

02:54:51.000 Here they go, oh, we just got a new idea.

02:54:55.000 When years ago you could read their policy reports when they were going to do it.

02:54:58.000 See the creeping, sneaky evilness of it.

02:55:01.000 This is out of Knight Ridder.

02:55:02.000 Attention library patrons, while we check your screen, and it's just Homeland Security all over the country, runs in and checks what you're looking at on the computer.

02:55:11.000 Is it porn?

02:55:12.000 Is it whatever?

02:55:13.000 And it's just there's new library police everywhere and nothing to do with terrorism.

02:55:18.000 And another one here, Steve Watson wrote, biometrics ID cards tagging DNA kits being pushed on kids and how all over the western world they're all being put in DNA databases and how horrible it is.

02:55:29.000 And meanwhile, the U.S.

02:55:30.000 reclassifies many documents in secret, trying to make stuff that's already public.

02:55:34.000 Secret class action lawsuit against a major telecommunications company, Verizon, over working with the government to spy on American citizens.

02:55:42.000 We're out of time!

02:55:43.000 Wow, that was a quick-moving last three hours.

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