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00:00:03.000 Yeah.

00:00:05.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 We're scheduled to have two very important guests on with us today.

00:00:31.000 Wow.

00:00:32.000 One of them is our Jamal, an American, Who has been all over Iraq and other areas of the Middle East covering the war, an unembedded reporter.

00:00:41.000 He's scheduled for the second hour and another interesting guest coming up in the third hour.

00:00:45.000 We'll tell you about a little bit later.

00:00:47.000 In this hour, I want to get into all the day's news, the important information and different developments, but I also want to spend some time on What the scientific community and what governments are up to with genetic engineering, with nuclear energy and weapons, and what's going on with super weapons like antimatter bombs.

00:01:12.000 Because many of these different sectors of research, their own top scientists admit, ...are uncontrolled and could easily cause massive calamities, including the complete destruction of the planet, and yes, even the solar system.

00:01:33.000 Just a few particles of antimatter can easily be billions of times, the words are, 10 billion times stronger than the largest hydrogen bombs.

00:01:46.000 Nuclear weapons.

00:01:47.000 And the government is openly testing and colliding and manipulating these, admitting that the mathematics shows a probability of mega explosions.

00:01:59.000 And this goes to the heart of the insanity of the New World Order. 0.87

00:02:07.000 They are introducing algaes and bacteria that have been engineered.

00:02:12.000 They are causing already major problems with the global biosphere.

00:02:17.000 They are engaging in cross-species New organism developments that admittedly can give rise to super viruses and super bacteria and have done so.

00:02:30.000 And that's just when these private and public and governmental laboratories admit to what they've done.

00:02:35.000 So I want to spend 10-15 minutes on this in the shower.

00:02:39.000 As calmly as I can I want to go over it and I want to try to make this a major focus of what we do here because really no one else that I know of is spending any time on it or concerned about it.

00:02:50.000 People love mythical planet X's and they love mythical patriot mythology and things that are conspiracy theories and can't be proven.

00:03:00.000 In fact, a lot of people love to talk about imaginary concentration camps, and they never want to talk about evidence.

00:03:05.000 It's always what their cousins, brothers, nephews, neighbor heard somebody who saw it, maybe thought they could have.

00:03:12.000 And then it's in major newspapers or building camps, and people tend to kind of disassociate psychologically and divert themselves away from real things.

00:03:21.000 You know, if you've got video of Senate hearings where they're admitting, and oh, that's not a major story, but it'll go around the internet for ten years, some rumor.

00:03:29.000 Well, let the rumors end and the documentation begin.

00:03:33.000 That's what we do here.

00:03:34.000 And let me assure you, it is very, very serious, and I intend to write some articles about this in the next few days.

00:03:41.000 I've talked about it some in the past, but I've really dropped the ball on this subject, and so we're not going to do that.

00:03:46.000 We're not going to do that today, and I'd like to get you the listener's take on the things that I talk about, and of course you can add any of your interesting points to it.

00:03:55.000 I'm always amazed by the incredible intelligence and Ideas that you, the listeners, have.

00:04:03.000 The websites are InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, and InfoWars.net.

00:04:10.000 We're about to develop some of the other websites that have lain dormant, like JonesReport.com and others here in the near future.

00:04:16.000 You'll be seeing some new websites that are dedicated predominantly just to key issues.

00:04:24.000 I'm going to have issue driven websites that cover what I think are the most important facets of mass poisoning of the population and developments that could easily kill all human life or all life itself on this globe.

00:04:39.000 I believe Jones reports in the near future we're going to develop that and turn it into a site mainly dealing with extinction issues.

00:04:47.000 We'll be right back after this break.

00:04:48.000 I also have three audio clips we'll be playing.

00:04:50.000 Lou Dobbs has been told to shut up about the UAE deal.

00:04:53.000 More on the NSA situation with the spying.

00:04:56.000 And a little parody piece about Alberto Gonzalez.

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00:08:07.000 All right, big broadcast lined up for you today.

00:08:13.000 Thank you so much for joining us on this final day of February 2006.

00:08:17.000 We're already completing the second month of 2006.

00:08:21.000 And coming up in the next hour, Dar Jamal is scheduled. 0.95

00:08:27.000 He's on the road, but we're looking for him to join us.

00:08:30.000 He, of course, is a combat journalist.

00:08:33.000 He has been in Iraq as a non-embed for months and months and months off and on in the last few years.

00:08:40.000 Incredible bravery, and he is scheduled to join us coming up in the second hour.

00:08:44.000 Then we have the editor and publisher of Neocon and Neocon again, himself a graduate of Annapolis, coming up in the third hour.

00:08:54.000 Very interesting gentleman joining us then, an expert, in my opinion, I've heard him interviewed before, on the New World Order.

00:09:01.000 I've got a 20-minute clip.

00:09:04.000 from CNBC's Tim Russert Show.

00:09:06.000 It's a long interview.

00:09:07.000 I'm not going to air it all.

00:09:09.000 We're airing it, of course, to just analyze some of the comments and critique the piece.

00:09:14.000 But it's amazing.

00:09:16.000 It's as if they had Alex Jones on there.

00:09:19.000 In my films, like Road to Tyranny and others, we talk about the public fact that in 1996, 9 billion plus dollars, I say 9 billion plus because I don't remember, it's 9 plus, 9 billion something, it was supposed to be 5 billion but it went over.

00:09:37.000 And I remember reading in industry publications, because that's what I mainly read, that oh yes, the major telecommunications companies that all of the digital systems go through, the satellites, the internet, even landlines that are on copper wires are then digitized on the other end.

00:09:53.000 It's all digital.

00:09:56.000 That by 2001, October 1st, 2001, a quote surveillance grid was to be in place.

00:10:03.000 They didn't make any bones about it.

00:10:06.000 So I've been perseverating on the issue ever since, and everything is fed through the NSA.

00:10:11.000 The NSA actually has its own giant computers and hubs, and its officers in every major phone company hub in the country.

00:10:21.000 Southwestern Bell, based in San Antonio, Texas.

00:10:24.000 AT&T, they've now bought it, but AT&T based up in New York.

00:10:28.000 All of these, every major hub that everything has to go through is the NSA.

00:10:33.000 It isn't just connected to it, it is the National Security Agency and the Echelon System, just one of many.

00:10:40.000 And I tell people that and they go, what are you talking about?

00:10:42.000 We post the industry publications, but it got attention on the website, but never national traction.

00:10:47.000 Now they're coming out.

00:10:49.000 See, if they want to use this on a daily basis against all of us, for all crime and taxes and everything else, they've got to go ahead and condition us.

00:10:55.000 Oh, it's just when Bin Laden calls America.

00:10:58.000 No, that's not true.

00:10:59.000 It's domestically.

00:11:00.000 And part of this plan, it's also in mainstream news today, is the fact that every cell phone in America, by law, sold, every new phone sold it for $2,001 by federal law.

00:11:17.000 It's tracked down to 15 feet.

00:11:20.000 Now, they really work down to about 3 feet, but the federal law is 15 feet with a GPS tracker switch in it.

00:11:25.000 Now, there isn't a GPS itself.

00:11:27.000 It's a GPS tracker locator device that is triangulated by the cell tower systems down by federal law to 15 feet.

00:11:37.000 And then now they offer it as a service.

00:11:39.000 I told the story how I was up at a funeral a few months ago up in Fort Worth, Texas and we're supposed to be there early and we're lost because my dad and I went to the art museum beforehand.

00:11:52.000 And we were going to be pallbearers, and so my dad says, I heard my new phone has a service where they can tell me where I'm at.

00:11:58.000 And he calls up, and he says, well, and they say, where are you?

00:12:03.000 He has his own speakerphone in the car.

00:12:05.000 And he says, let me look.

00:12:06.000 And they go, well, we don't need to.

00:12:07.000 You're at the corner of Main and this.

00:12:09.000 And we looked up, and there we are driving past the sign.

00:12:12.000 Yes, how did you know that?

00:12:13.000 Oh, sir, we have you right here on a digital map.

00:12:17.000 Again, we already knew that, but here we were experiencing it.

00:12:23.000 Here we were living it.

00:12:25.000 Here we were in the middle of it.

00:12:27.000 And so, this grid is admittedly Pentagon designed, and they brag in industry publications that they are going to control the American people with it.

00:12:37.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:12:39.000 That's the backdrop, the excuse, the pretext.

00:12:42.000 So, we debate the Pentagon watching people and soldiers on the ground, and we debate NSA spying, but they only debate a shaving of the top of the iceberg.

00:12:52.000 Just a shaving of the tip, not even the tip.

00:12:55.000 And then, even with that, the majority of Americans in major polls don't like it.

00:13:00.000 When they pose the question like, well, if Bin Laden's calling America trying to kill you, is it okay if it stops a terror attack to listen to some calls?

00:13:08.000 And then over half say, no, it's not okay.

00:13:11.000 I mean, imagine if you said, hey, everything you're doing is being tracked and traced through private corporations by the U.S.

00:13:17.000 government.

00:13:18.000 Is that okay with you?

00:13:19.000 And they plan to use it to control you and dominate you?

00:13:22.000 Well, no, you get 95% saying no.

00:13:25.000 So, we're trying to get a real debate going here.

00:13:29.000 So, coming up later, I'm going to play excerpts of this, where they just admit it all.

00:13:35.000 But they still try to spin it and say, oh, well, these NSA hubs, yeah, they're in control of everything, but it's just to hear the foreign phone calls.

00:13:41.000 No, it's not.

00:13:42.000 It's been declassified for decades.

00:13:44.000 It's admitted.

00:13:45.000 They publicly paid them for the NSA, billions of dollars, to come in and literally, basically run the phone companies.

00:13:52.000 I mean, it's amazing.

00:13:55.000 And then I have this other clip.

00:13:57.000 We're going to play right now concerning Lou Dobbs, who was told to shut up, told not to report on the UAE deal.

00:14:07.000 And I just want to mention to everybody that UAE gave $1 million to the Bush Library.

00:14:12.000 A sheet from the United Arab Emirates contributed at least $1 million, at least.

00:14:15.000 We'll learn it's $5 million next week.

00:14:17.000 But the Bush Library Foundation, which established the George Bush Presidential Library at Texas A&M University and College Station.

00:14:24.000 The new George Bush Library, they're now looking for land to build in Texas.

00:14:28.000 Guess what?

00:14:29.000 I've got the articles.

00:14:30.000 At this major university, the university stole people's houses without just compensation to do it.

00:14:36.000 So talk about Supreme Court rulings and Bush claiming he's pro-property rights when it says seven of the nine members are Republicans on the Supreme Court and it was Democrats against it.

00:14:46.000 Again, I'm not defending the Democrats, it's just George Bush is no conservative.

00:14:51.000 But before I get to any of that, let's play this little parody piece.

00:14:55.000 It's a little cartoon that we have up about the new law firm that Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez is going to be running.

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00:16:39.000 So there's that Marc Fiore incredible cartoon.

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00:16:48.000 Let's go ahead and roll this piece a lot more serious with Lou Dobbs talking about how they're trying to muzzle him, talking about the UAE.

00:16:57.000 Hey Lou, just go be a neocon like Rush Limbaugh and you can get $287 million.

00:17:00.000 Go ahead and roll it.

00:17:04.000 A rather astonishing new attempt to silence me and our coverage of this Ports deal and our reporting of what at least I consider to be legitimate national security concerns about this transaction.

00:17:17.000 Dubai Ports World has actually refused to grant CNN any more interviews from Washington or London and it's refused to allow CNN to videotape its operations in the United Arab Emirates and Hong Kong If we were to show you the video on this broadcast.

00:17:35.000 This is not the first time that DubaiPort's World has tried to silence me.

00:17:39.000 Last week, a spokesman for the public relations firm that represents the company, Mark Dennis, declared, CNN won't shut up Lou Dobbs.

00:17:47.000 And as a result, they weren't going to cooperate.

00:17:50.000 Well, let me assure you that this latest attempt to silence our reporting and to explore the national security interests Just like their last effort won't succeed.

00:17:58.000 CNN's management, to its great credit, says it won't comply with any of DubaiPort's world's demands.

00:18:04.000 And I'll guarantee you that we're going to continue to report on the facts of this deal.

00:18:08.000 We're going to continue to analyze it.

00:18:10.000 We're going to continue to absolutely scrutinize our elected officials and administration officials who, in some cases, are not being straightforward about the national security interests and the reasons motivating this deal.

00:18:26.000 That's my opinion, and that's part of the reason I'm here.

00:18:30.000 Still ahead, how years of failed U.S.

00:18:32.000 trade policies helped set the stage for this deal.

00:18:35.000 Alright, so, now let me just boil something down.

00:18:37.000 I remember seven, eight years ago, everybody loved O'Reilly.

00:18:40.000 He was talking about the Illuminati, gun control being evil.

00:18:44.000 He built an audience doing that.

00:18:47.000 And then he's ban SUVs, world government's good, arrest all the militia people once he got the audience. 0.88

00:18:54.000 It's like Oberman.

00:18:55.000 I mean, he's doing a pretty good report every night now.

00:18:57.000 He's getting the big audience.

00:18:59.000 Lou Dobbs, who I think is the best of all of them, I mean, long term, he's been the best.

00:19:03.000 He's been doing it for a decade that I've been watching him and he's never backed off.

00:19:07.000 But Oberman's very suspect and so is, I mean, look at O'Reilly.

00:19:11.000 He's not even suspect.

00:19:12.000 We know what he is.

00:19:14.000 But CNN likes to do this.

00:19:15.000 I mean, they're run by the Pentagon, and they keep Dobbs on a short leash.

00:19:19.000 I think Dobbs is a patriot overall.

00:19:21.000 He wants to be able to tell the truth.

00:19:23.000 They know it'll give them an audience, so the mainstream media is losing such a market share that they found they have to put people like Dobbs and Oberman on to just keep any viewers.

00:19:33.000 And, in fact, I've talked to a lot of people high up in the industry.

00:19:36.000 Talk radio, national TV, you name it.

00:19:39.000 In fact, there were a couple news articles mainstream about it yesterday.

00:19:42.000 We are gaining the audience.

00:19:43.000 Alternative media is exploding on a thousand fronts, and they're imploding, unless they're doing real reporting, at least to some extent, like Lou Dobbs.

00:19:51.000 But good job to Lou Dobbs.

00:19:53.000 I mean, you know, this is, I mean, this whole port deal is completely corrupt and rotten from head to tail.

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00:24:16.000 And I said that I trust Dobbs more than I trust Oberman, though I think Oberman obviously is very talented.

00:24:21.000 And Jeff Rentz says he knows him, says he's a nice guy.

00:24:23.000 But to make a long story short, remember how Anderson Cooper during the flooding was throwing fits and getting mad and saying the government was screwing up and he was angry?

00:24:33.000 It turns out that CNN memos were released, and again it was in the mainstream news a month after, that they told him to do that and that was all staged to try to gain credibility.

00:24:45.000 Because after he got everybody angry, after a few days of griping, suddenly everybody else on Fox and other channels, not just CNN, started doing the same thing.

00:24:53.000 But then they'd say, FEMA needs more power. 0.99

00:24:55.000 You see, they'll tell you the truth about the problems and then give you a bad solution.

00:24:59.000 FEMA already had the power and blocked the aid, so when they, quote, screwed up, they'd get even more funding.

00:25:04.000 So, this is the type of stuff they're doing, hanging on by their fingernails, trying to maintain some semblance of credibility.

00:25:13.000 That's why more and more, you know, major mainstream radio shows around the country are bringing the truth out.

00:25:18.000 And not just to maintain credibility.

00:25:20.000 A lot of their own anchors, a lot of their own people, they're good too.

00:25:23.000 They're just trying to get a paycheck.

00:25:25.000 They want to tell the truth.

00:25:26.000 They want to follow major stories.

00:25:28.000 They want to be real reporters.

00:25:29.000 It's exciting and fun to tell the truth.

00:25:31.000 It's exciting to expose corruption.

00:25:33.000 We're built and designed to do that.

00:25:35.000 But many people in the mainstream media are not allowed to do that.

00:25:38.000 That's why I love the Genesis Network, which never gives me any guidance.

00:25:42.000 I wish I'd get a little bit more.

00:25:43.000 It's the complete opposite.

00:25:44.000 Jack Blood's talked about that.

00:25:45.000 He said, this is the first network I've ever been on where they don't tell me anything and don't ever restrict me.

00:25:50.000 Every other place he ever worked, they did.

00:25:52.000 Well, Genesis doesn't do that, folks.

00:25:55.000 And that's why it is so incredibly special.

00:25:58.000 I guess there are a few other Patriot Networks that don't censor as well.

00:26:00.000 And that's good, because that's what we need.

00:26:03.000 We need to support that.

00:26:05.000 Coming up, I'm going to get into super weapons and things that can destroy all life on the planet and how crazy the elite is.

00:26:12.000 But I want to go ahead and get started with this and then later I'll play more of it.

00:26:17.000 NSA uses private firms for massive unchecked domestic surveillance.

00:26:21.000 Thanks to a heads up, it goes on.

00:26:24.000 Ross Gordy picked up this from CNBC.

00:26:27.000 We were able to capture the broadcast of CNBC's Tim Russert.

00:26:31.000 Russert interviewed James Risen and Robert O'Haro Jr.

00:26:35.000 The video contained 24 minutes of clips from CNBC's Saturday broadcast.

00:26:39.000 James Risen broke the NSA warrantless domestic spying story for the New York Times.

00:26:44.000 broke it.

00:26:46.000 If anybody would just go to the industry publications of what happened in 96, you can read mainstream publications admitting that the NSA is literally running the digital hubs at all the major phone companies and telecommunications companies.

00:27:01.000 It all runs through them.

00:27:03.000 I mean, all the satellites run through them.

00:27:06.000 Your cell phone call runs through them.

00:27:08.000 This network runs through them.

00:27:09.000 Everything runs through it.

00:27:12.000 Go ahead and roll part of that clip and we'll get to the rest of it after the break.

00:27:15.000 Here it is.

00:27:17.000 Enter James Risen, who wrote the story first for the New York Times and then his book about the NSA, National Security Agency, eavesdropping in America, picking up phone calls from here to overseas, trying to help in the war on terror.

00:27:34.000 What kind of technology is used to do that?

00:27:38.000 Well, we only really, most of what the NSA program that we've written about is still highly classified and we only really have the outlines of the technical side of it.

00:27:49.000 But what we do know is that the, what the NSA has done is gotten the approval and authorization from President Bush and the acceptance of some of the major telecommunications companies that Bob was talking about to access the major switches that are kind of the gateways and the hubs between the domestic telecommunications system and the international telecommunications system.

00:28:15.000 Explain that, Jim.

00:28:16.000 Essentially, as I understand it, there are a series of major gateways along the borders of the US telephone system that are kind of the entry and exit for the major fiber optics lines going in and out of the country, both for email and for telephone, cell phone, everything.

00:28:37.000 And that basically as communications come in and out of this country, they have to go through major hubs, gateways, switches.

00:28:46.000 And it's at that point that the NSA has gotten back doors from these major telecommunications companies to basically vacuum up Things going in and out of it.

00:28:56.000 Okay, hit pause there.

00:28:57.000 Okay, pause it back in a few seconds.

00:28:59.000 When we come back, I'll play a few more minutes.

00:29:00.000 I'm not going to play it all.

00:29:02.000 Now, again, there's lies everywhere, okay?

00:29:04.000 It is admitted that they paid nine billion dollars to literally put in the computer systems in the late 90s, starting in 96, And then it was to be finished by October 1, 2001 in all telecommunications hubs, in all the switching centers.

00:29:21.000 The government has agents and technicians under federal law sitting inside the phone companies.

00:29:29.000 But this is the most I've ever heard them on national TV admit to it.

00:29:34.000 It's a very small part of it, the international communications.

00:29:37.000 But see, they're limiting it to that in this discussion because they've been told the domestic activities are classified and they'll be arrested if they talk about it.

00:29:46.000 Well, we're going to talk about it.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:32:57.000 So they're slowly introducing you to the spine.

00:33:09.000 It's like the ports.

00:33:10.000 Oh, they're getting six ports.

00:33:11.000 They're getting eight ports.

00:33:12.000 They're getting twelve ports.

00:33:13.000 They're getting twenty ports.

00:33:14.000 They're getting twenty-one ports.

00:33:15.000 They're getting twenty-five ports.

00:33:17.000 They're getting ten ports in Canada.

00:33:20.000 Oh, one of their chief executives is going to run all security on all the ports in America.

00:33:24.000 Oh! 0.60

00:33:25.000 The chairman of the board that signed off at the federal agency for them to be able to take over these ports.

00:33:33.000 Oh, he got billions of dollars from them.

00:33:36.000 Oh, they're paying for the presidential library.

00:33:38.000 Oh, you see, it's the same thing on this NSA spy.

00:33:41.000 Oh, we're just listening to Bin Laden's calls.

00:33:43.000 Oh, we're listening... Sure, we run the telecommunications companies, but it's just to listen to foreign calls.

00:33:48.000 Oh, we're listening to all your domestic calls.

00:33:50.000 Oh, we're tracking your cell phone down to a few feet.

00:33:52.000 Oh, we're...

00:33:53.000 Oh, we're going to arrest you if you criticize the government.

00:33:55.000 Oh, we need to... This is all happening.

00:33:57.000 See, it's just slowly being brought out.

00:34:01.000 First we'll bring out a little teeny bit of it, have a debate about that, try to convince you, and then bring in more and more.

00:34:07.000 It's amazing, but as they reveal more of themselves, our credibility explodes, because we've been here for a long, long time, detailing all of this, and a lot of the general public who wouldn't listen to us, wouldn't check out our claims, wouldn't check out what we posted, wouldn't look at our facts, wouldn't watch our films, they just, oh, that ain't true.

00:34:25.000 Now they're hearing it on their nightly news, with the spin that it's all wonderful, of course, but they're starting to go, wait a minute, I heard that Alex Jones, I heard others talk about this.

00:34:34.000 Let's play a few more minutes of this whitewash.

00:34:36.000 Oh, it sounds real hardcore, but it's a whitewash by Russert's Long Weekend Show that he does.

00:34:41.000 His more extended show, Not Meet the Press, but the other one he does on CNBC, the Tim Russert Show.

00:34:46.000 Go ahead and roll it.

00:34:47.000 They're talking to one of the NSA whistleblowers and the author that, quote, broke the story that the NSA has snooping hubs.

00:34:55.000 Oh, he needs a Pulitzer.

00:34:57.000 Oh, it's so incredible.

00:34:59.000 Here it is.

00:35:00.000 NSA has gotten back doors from these major telecommunications companies to basically vacuum up things going in and out of there.

00:35:09.000 And the question that we still are wrestling with to understand this program, there seems to be two major aspects of it.

00:35:16.000 One is actual eavesdropping on individuals, on their communications, both email and telephone, going through those.

00:35:23.000 There also seems to be large data mining operations being conducted by NSA into this bloodstream of the telecommunications network.

00:35:34.000 It seems that those two operations may be separate but parallel.

00:35:38.000 In other words that they're both doing this warrantless eavesdropping on individuals at the same time they're doing this larger data mining operation looking for patterns of telephone and email usage and So when you say data mining, they have a name and they keep trying to find out how that person is behaving.

00:36:00.000 Well, the possibilities for the way you could do it would be very extensive.

00:36:05.000 You could look for anybody using the word Jihad, for instance, or Osama Bin Laden.

00:36:11.000 in their communications, in their email, in their telephone calls, and you could then look for patterns of people using that.

00:36:18.000 That is essentially what Echelon is.

00:36:21.000 Echelon is the public name for what the NSA has been doing overseas for many, many years.

00:36:29.000 They have been doing kind of keyword searches all over the world outside the United States in the past.

00:36:36.000 using their vast computing power and their ability to monitor foreign communications.

00:36:42.000 Now it's possible they're doing the same thing inside the United States.

00:36:46.000 Robert O'Hara, you use the term the Security Industrial Complex.

00:36:50.000 Explain.

00:36:53.000 Many people recall that President Eisenhower warned about something called the Military Industrial Complex when he left the White House in 1961.

00:37:02.000 And it was a powerful message that he wanted to leave with the American people that The military machinery, the industrial machinery that was protecting us or helping to protect us during the Cold War, and the military bureaucracy had very strong ties.

00:37:18.000 And he warned that those strong ties were developing and strengthening in secret, outside public scrutiny and outside public accountability.

00:37:27.000 And he said that those relationships and that new power threatened our values, our American values of democracy and openness.

00:37:35.000 Security Industrial Complex is, I'm trying to echo Eisenhower's warning in the sense that there now is a security industrial complex and the ties between the information industries, which are the computer suppliers, the network builders, and the information companies, and the government to protect us.

00:37:56.000 And there's no question that we not only can that benefit, but we have to use information technology well in this new world.

00:38:04.000 Uh, and there's tremendous benefits, but I think what I've documented pretty well, uh, in a sense is that a lot of this is happening behind the cloak of secrecy, and it's, it's way beyond our understanding and our laws and regulations, and from an old-fashioned journalistic perspective, I find that unacceptable, and I think many Americans will too when I come to understand.

00:38:27.000 Alright, so, and if we have time later in the third hour, I'll play a few more minutes of it, so try to pause it there and keep it at that point.

00:38:32.000 I guess that's about eight minutes in.

00:38:34.000 You can watch the whole 24-minute clip up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.

00:38:40.000 So, I wrote some notes listening to this.

00:38:44.000 Number one, they're the supposed whistleblowers.

00:38:47.000 They're supposed the good guys.

00:38:48.000 Notice how they narrow the spectrum of debate.

00:38:51.000 They're saying, oh, this is good, oh, we need this, oh, keep us safe, oh, we need to look at this, oh, but this is a little secret, a little bit dangerous, and oh, this is just for overseas, and this is just for, and they're working with private companies, and this is, number one, most of what the National Security Agency does, according to the really scholarly reports that have been done in the last few decades, is economic espionage.

00:39:15.000 Let's say you own a small American computer company with maybe a thousand employees, relatively small.

00:39:21.000 And you're developing new computer software, new circuits, new microprocessors.

00:39:27.000 Let's say you're developing a new biotech development.

00:39:32.000 Let's say anything that's technological, industrial.

00:39:36.000 The NSA, especially if you're a successful company, but you're not on the inner circle of the New World Order, doesn't just have the computers listening to every word, reading every email, and they have computers that do that, or reading every fax.

00:39:50.000 You have actual bugs in your offices.

00:39:52.000 You have, in some cases, dozens and dozens of employees who also dually work for corporations.

00:39:58.000 People work for private corporations that compete against you, and they work at NSA, and the NSA on secure computers and servers and private Networks, hardwired in.

00:40:08.000 They're in there viewing everything you're doing, looking at your diagrams.

00:40:11.000 They know more about your business than you do.

00:40:13.000 And then they take that and give that to select companies, select corporations, Carlyle Group, IBM, many others.

00:40:19.000 And then those are then taken to client states, Japan, China, India, and developed basically by the slave labor populations at the factory level and by people being paid about a third as much as their actual software engineers and electrical engineers.

00:40:33.000 And others.

00:40:34.000 And so, again, this is the so-called free market.

00:40:36.000 It's our own government, which is globalist, giving this to select globalist corporations to affect a monopoly or an oligopoly of information.

00:40:45.000 Also, they look at trends.

00:40:46.000 If they start, as one NSA connection told me, for a few months they keep hearing people just, grassroots, keep talking about strawberries, strawberries, strawberries, strawberries.

00:40:56.000 That will then be passed on to certain corporations involved in food, ConAgra, others, Archer Daniels, Mellon, others about, oh, there's a big trend towards strawberries.

00:41:03.000 Or let's say that they pick up on the trend that some particular new type of audio pod or MP3 player is more popular and that people want a certain thing.

00:41:16.000 There are then data summaries sent just on marketing.

00:41:19.000 And then the government will say, well, private industry is already spying on everything you do, Why can't the government work?

00:41:27.000 Well, it's seamless.

00:41:29.000 It goes both ways.

00:41:30.000 They share and sell the data to each other, and you'll have a former NSA officer, a former defense intelligence officer, a former congressman retires, and he goes and heads up a new security company.

00:41:41.000 Based in Dallas, the one example in USA Today, that then makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year going and hooking in hubs into the major, say, pizza chains, was one example, and then instantly uploading that data and selling it to local police departments around the country.

00:41:55.000 You know, what are you talking about, Alex?

00:41:57.000 Well, here's an example.

00:41:58.000 It was a headline, what, two years ago now, that I've talked a lot about, just one example of literally hundreds.

00:42:04.000 Scott Laws caught when ordering pizza, I believe was the exact headline, and it said that the major pizza chains in America, and this is one example of retail sales,

00:42:15.000 That because people who may have warrants, or people who don't even have forgotten they have a warrant, haven't paid a ticket, or are actual hardened criminals, when they call to get a pizza, they don't suspect, and they've got to give their real name, they've got to give the real address of the credit card, they find out where you're living, staying with a buddy, shacking up, whatever, you know, staying in somebody else's apartment, and it's instantly flagged.

00:42:40.000 When they're taking your data down with the major pizza chains, It is instantly logged into this private company in Dallas, who then, by the way, gets paid 20% of all court fees and filings on top of another fee just for the law enforcement agency, state, federal, and local, that subscribe to it.

00:42:56.000 So, quote, isn't the NSA doing it?

00:42:59.000 It's just the NSA and even local governments in this seamless interface and then they add the carrot to the carrot and stick equation because they then make hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:43:12.000 This is one company doing this just through food delivery companies, i.e.

00:43:18.000 mainly pizza chains.

00:43:21.000 So you think you're living in a free country, folks.

00:43:23.000 Every time you call one of the major pizza national chains, there's four of them, Every time you call one of those national chains, it is instantly uploaded to federal, state, and local computers, but through the nexus port of a private company that got around the federal laws by contracting itself with the private pizza companies.

00:43:47.000 So see, there's your freedom.

00:43:49.000 Yeah, you're with Al-Qaeda.

00:43:50.000 We're just listening to Bin Laden calling America. 0.95

00:43:52.000 It's no big deal.

00:43:54.000 And in reality, it's when you're ordering a pizza.

00:43:56.000 And then you say, well, I don't think... The point is, the government throughout history is more criminal than any other organization, any other crime syndicate, any other individual or group.

00:44:04.000 So, they're the ones that have got to be restricted, controlled, and watched.

00:44:08.000 Who's watching them?

00:44:09.000 Who's controlling them?

00:44:10.000 They're looting the shop.

00:44:10.000 No one.

00:44:11.000 They're going wild.

00:44:13.000 They're openly talking about martial law and how good it is.

00:44:16.000 You see?

00:44:17.000 So I want to ask the police officers listening, you know, you've got to get a warrant to go into somebody's house.

00:44:22.000 Well, why then, when you call and order a pizza, is your background being run?

00:44:25.000 Again, this is amazing.

00:44:29.000 And now with the face scanning cameras, knowing your identity, going up nationwide, That is software hooked into those digital cameras.

00:44:37.000 We have the license plate reading cameras with the software going in nationwide.

00:44:41.000 The first place I saw it was five years ago in Indiana.

00:44:43.000 Now it's everywhere.

00:44:44.000 You know, the classic couple years ago, the Florida town.

00:44:47.000 Every car that goes through, they quote, run your background and have cops waiting.

00:44:50.000 Well, that's already nationwide.

00:44:52.000 They just are now incrementally announcing it.

00:44:55.000 Oh, to track traffic, we're going to track your cell phone by name just to see how the cars are moving.

00:45:00.000 Oh, we put the cameras in for traffic.

00:45:02.000 Oh, but now it's going to be for anti-terror and anti-crime.

00:45:05.000 Oh, we put up those big signs and the locals take over the radio and the feds take over the radio for Amber Alerts, but now it's going to be anti-gun messages taking hours and hours a week of radio programming randomly away from the stations with government break-ins.

00:45:19.000 See, this is the seamless web of control.

00:45:24.000 And there are hundreds of other points.

00:45:25.000 In the interest of time, I've got to stop right there.

00:45:27.000 I've got to stop right there, because guests are coming up.

00:45:29.000 We're not even taking calls this hour, because I'm too busy covering news.

00:45:32.000 I mean, this is my frustration.

00:45:34.000 This is what I deal with.

00:45:35.000 This is what I face every day.

00:45:36.000 This is what I look at.

00:45:37.000 This is what I know is going into place in front of everyone, and they're busy spinning it.

00:45:43.000 Even the guys we can quote, trust, the whistleblowers, those guys, that's total OMB.

00:45:47.000 I mean, they're just there churning it out.

00:45:51.000 Okay, now let me get into planet-destroying technologies.

00:45:55.000 Planet-destroying technologies.

00:45:58.000 Two years ago, I was sent an email, and there was a San Francisco Chronicle article with a link to the Federation of American Scientists, where top scientists were saying, That there are antimatter bombs that have already been created after capturing these particles, that just a few particles of it are billions of times more powerful than the most destructive nuclear weapons.

00:46:23.000 Warheads.

00:46:24.000 And it was funny, I was on a radio show last night, I was being interviewed by Jeff Rents and I just mentioned it and I thought I'll type it in Google, because it had disappeared, the articles had been pulled.

00:46:33.000 Not a retraction, just they disappeared.

00:46:35.000 I'd look for it, Paul Watson would look for it, we were going to write an article about it.

00:46:37.000 Well, suddenly it was back up last night, but the article had been changed.

00:46:42.000 The article had been changed, San Francisco Chronicle, Air Force Pursuing Antimatter Weapons Program was touted, and then it says that later reporting on it was quote, banned.

00:46:52.000 And we posted that up on InfoWars.com.

00:46:55.000 I have another little article here, this is just today out of Wired Magazine, Mutant Algae is Hydrogen Factory.

00:47:02.000 And they produce these little algaes that have these photosynthesis antennas, and they are very fast breeding, and they're just going to release them in the environment.

00:47:12.000 Because they can, quote, get a power source out of it.

00:47:14.000 You see, when you mess with bottom-of-the-food-chain algaes, fungi, bacteria, animal bacteria, plant bacteria, when you start messing with this, you mess with the foundation.

00:47:27.000 And there are top scientists warning, people who are genetic engineers, experts on this, that this is insane!

00:47:34.000 An example of it from 15 years ago is that oil-eating bacteria, now showing it can cause problems.

00:47:42.000 But this is the tip of the iceberg.

00:47:43.000 There are thousands of companies randomly splicing and dicing cross-species bugs with human genes, pigs with human genes, plants with bug genes, and then the plants are jumping into other plants.

00:47:55.000 And it's creating life forms and combinations that never existed before.

00:48:00.000 And then it's able to bridge the gap, because their genetic code has been broken open, to where it is now diseasing the other base genetic systems.

00:48:08.000 And the top scientists, even people that run these companies, quit and go, it's insane, all the rats we feed this to die, but we're feeding it to the population.

00:48:15.000 It's insane, it's giving rise to super viruses, it's classified, I can't talk about it.

00:48:19.000 They admittedly, in the U.S., have two bacterium on the shelf that admittedly will kill the entire biosphere.

00:48:26.000 If they release them, it eats everything.

00:48:28.000 Okay?

00:48:29.000 No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

00:48:31.000 It's not a science fiction movie.

00:48:34.000 It's actually going on.

00:48:35.000 Why is the elite doing this?

00:48:37.000 Why are they engaging in things like this?

00:48:40.000 They're worried about Iran ten years away from having an A-bomb of their left alone and allowed to buy thousands of centrifuges. 0.67

00:48:47.000 And when they were complying with all the U.N.

00:48:48.000 mandate, it's a joke.

00:48:50.000 It's just like the article a couple days ago out of the big Delaware paper where they're going to dump hundreds of millions, just hundreds of millions of gallons of diluted nerve toxin, nerve agent, chemical weapons right into the ocean.

00:49:04.000 And I say, hey, what's the big deal with that?

00:49:06.000 We had the article a few months ago, admitted the U.S.

00:49:08.000 government dumped hundreds of millions of gallons of pure nerve gas directly into the Atlantic Ocean right off the shore.

00:49:16.000 They dumped hundreds and hundreds of submarine nuclear reactors right off the California coast.

00:49:21.000 I mean, this is the elite!

00:49:24.000 Why are they doing this?

00:49:25.000 Why do they have this death wish?

00:49:26.000 Why are they factories of death?

00:49:28.000 Why do they spray DU, the equivalent?

00:49:30.000 This is the International Atomic Energy Agency's own numbers.

00:49:32.000 The thousands and thousands of tons of DU that have been used just in the latest Gulf War, tripling what they used in 1991, is the equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs.

00:49:44.000 It's the exact same stuff, Poisonous, radioactive.

00:49:49.000 The detectors all over are picking this up every time they use it.

00:49:52.000 We're breathing it. 0.76

00:49:53.000 A whiff of this is going to make your life miserable if it doesn't kill you.

00:49:57.000 And they're just busy using it all over the world now and improving grounds right here in America.

00:50:02.000 Because the Nagasaki bomb, what, weighed just a few pounds?

00:50:04.000 What was it?

00:50:04.000 Four pounds?

00:50:05.000 I'm going from memory here.

00:50:06.000 Well, they're using... I've got the numbers right here in some articles.

00:50:10.000 It's just hundreds of thousands of tons.

00:50:12.000 Excuse me.

00:50:13.000 It's like 300-something thousand tons.

00:50:15.000 I mean, they're massively using this all over the place, so it's 400,000 times the Nagasaki.

00:50:23.000 I mean, that's their admission.

00:50:25.000 Why?

00:50:26.000 Meanwhile, the environmentalists are running around going, we've just got to get the farmers and ranchers' property off-limits so they can't plant crops because they're killing the earth.

00:50:33.000 And then their Rockefeller Foundation fund is just used to steal private property from the citizens.

00:50:38.000 So the environmentalists are running around bumping into each other.

00:50:41.000 We're so good.

00:50:42.000 We're so loving.

00:50:43.000 Don't let them build trapping monsters. 1.00

00:50:45.000 Kill the Earth! 1.00

00:50:46.000 Meanwhile, let's just release a fungus that can take over. 0.99

00:50:49.000 Oh, let's just spray D.U.

00:50:50.000 everywhere.

00:50:51.000 Oh, let's make x-ray, you know, x-ray lasers. 0.54

00:50:54.000 They're doing all of this.

00:50:56.000 We'll talk about, um, antimatter weapons.

00:50:59.000 Oh, yes.

00:51:00.000 We'll get back.

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00:53:56.000 Transcription by CastingWords We'll talk to Wyatt and James who have been holding a while.

00:54:10.000 We've got Dr. Jamal, combat reporter in the middle of it over in Iraq.

00:54:15.000 He'll be joining us to talk about the bombing of that shrine and a lot more.

00:54:20.000 Before we do that, listen, I'm not kidding about these antimatter bombs.

00:54:28.000 They built all these antimatter traps.

00:54:30.000 Around the world, deep underground they found, they tend to slow down, I forget, a couple miles under the earth and they've got these underground facilities that catch them.

00:54:38.000 That's declassified.

00:54:39.000 They also use superconducting super colliders to accelerate them.

00:54:42.000 And I remember when they were going to build the South Texas, or the Texas Superconducting Super Collider.

00:54:47.000 It's not South, it's North Texas Superconducting Super Collider.

00:54:50.000 Top scientist, physicist, I mean, Major prize winners were saying, listen, you start accelerating those, our mathematics show there is a high probability that it's going to cause an explosion that would easily vaporize the earth, even the sun, the entire solar system.

00:55:07.000 This is black hole creating, fabric of space, dimensional warping type stuff.

00:55:13.000 You're going, that sounds like science fiction.

00:55:15.000 Well, yeah, and the equations from 1905 that later developed the A-bomb in 1943. 0.70

00:55:19.000 Yeah, that was science fiction then too.

00:55:23.000 And I've got this redacted article from the San Francisco Chronicle.

00:55:27.000 Here it says, Air Force pursuing antimatter weapons program was touted publicly then came official gag order.

00:55:33.000 The U.S.

00:55:34.000 Air Force is quietly spending millions of dollars investigating ways to use a radical power source.

00:55:38.000 How about billions?

00:55:39.000 Antimatter, the eerie mirror of ordinary matter in the future.

00:55:44.000 And there's a quote here in it.

00:55:45.000 It says, Let me find the actual quote.

00:55:49.000 The energy from colliding postatrons and anti-electrons is ten billion times that of high explosive, Edwards explained in his March speech.

00:55:59.000 Moreover, one gram of antimatter, about one twenty-fifth of an ounce, would equal twenty-three space shuttle fuel tanks of energy.

00:56:07.000 Thus, postatron energy conversion, as he called it, would be a revolutionary energy source of interest to those who wage war.

00:56:15.000 And it could be trillions of times more powerful.

00:56:18.000 The amount that is used in a hydrogen bomb, if you had that, a much smaller amount of antimatter and detonated it.

00:56:26.000 And the article goes into the U.S.

00:56:28.000 Air Force is quietly developing this, the most powerful potential energy source.

00:56:33.000 And it goes on to say antimatter itself isn't fiction.

00:56:35.000 It actually exists and has been intensively studied by physicists since the 1930s.

00:56:39.000 In a sense, matter and antimatter are the yin and yang of reality.

00:56:42.000 Every type of subatomic particle has its antimatter counterpart.

00:56:45.000 But when matter and antimatter collide, they annihilate each other in an intense burst of energy.

00:56:51.000 And it goes into these antimatter bombs.

00:56:55.000 The original article I saw got into even more of it.

00:57:00.000 So I do want to write some articles about this, the super algaes, the chimera cross species developments that are so deadly.

00:57:08.000 And just link to all the scientists and physicists and experts.

00:57:11.000 They're doing all these things that are guaranteed to wreak havoc, guaranteed to cause major problems.

00:57:17.000 Even when the mathematics show it could blow us all to kingdom come, it doesn't matter.

00:57:22.000 They just do it.

00:57:23.000 You know, you're sitting there one day making omelets one morning and you don't even feel the heat of the blast on your cheek as you and your family are vaporized and the entire solar system disappears.

00:57:33.000 You don't even... It's just boom!

00:57:34.000 We're gone!

00:57:35.000 Boom! 0.99

00:57:35.000 We're gone! 0.99

00:57:36.000 Thanks a lot, government.

00:57:37.000 Thanks a lot, New World Order.

00:57:39.000 They are on such power trips.

00:57:40.000 They are so looney tunes.

00:57:41.000 What is the psychology of individuals and people that do this?

00:57:46.000 So we've got to have a world government to stop people like Iran getting A-bombs. 1.00

00:57:50.000 I mean tinker toys compared to antimatter weapons and genetic engineering and the chimera cross-species and all the things that we know are happening.

00:57:59.000 The weather control, all of it, these nuts are just, are just, it's like sticking your finger in a light socket to see what's going to happen.

00:58:06.000 Now we got 30 seconds before this hour ends and I want to encourage all of you to go to InfoWars.com if you believe in what we're doing and want powerful videos and books and DVDs and pro-gun t-shirts and InfoWars.com bumper stickers

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Well, Dar Jamal, print reporter, also taking a lot of photos in Iraq, one of the bravest people we've We've been studying.

00:59:26.000 He's been over there seeing just amazing things.

00:59:28.000 He'll be joining us coming up in the next segment.

00:59:31.000 Then coming up in the third hour, we have John Sharp.

00:59:36.000 And he is, of course, the publisher of Neocon Neocon.

00:59:39.000 Again, he's got a lot to talk about with the New World Order with us. 0.70

00:59:42.000 More developments on the port situation.

00:59:44.000 More developments on the Iran situation.

00:59:46.000 A lot of police state news I want to get into today.

00:59:48.000 But right now, let's go to your calls.

00:59:49.000 Wyatt in Maryland, you're on the air.

00:59:51.000 Go ahead, Wyatt.

00:59:52.000 Hey, Alex.

00:59:52.000 How are you doing?

00:59:53.000 Good, sir.

00:59:54.000 Great, great.

00:59:55.000 Listen, you were talking about the National Security Act and the NSA and the spying and so on and so forth and what's really going on.

01:00:06.000 Jerry Borkheimer, you know how he is involved with the government?

01:00:09.000 The BBC reported he's a Pentagon agent and he even produced the saving of Private Lynch's baloney.

01:00:15.000 Right.

01:00:17.000 In the movie he did, in any other state, he put an interesting clip in there.

01:00:24.000 I'd just like to play it for you.

01:00:25.000 It's only about 30 seconds at the most.

01:00:27.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:00:31.000 Vote for it.

01:00:34.000 I know you can.

01:00:35.000 Just release your people.

01:00:36.000 Let them go the way they want.

01:00:39.000 Telecommunication Security and Privacy Act.

01:00:43.000 Invasion of privacy is more like it.

01:00:45.000 Did you read the Post?

01:00:48.000 This bill is not the first step to the surveillance society.

01:00:51.000 It is the surveillance society.

01:00:53.000 A liberal hysteria.

01:00:54.000 Oh, listen, I'm not going to sit in Congress and pass a law that lets the government point a camera and a microphone at anything they damn well please.

01:01:06.000 That's it. 0.93

01:01:08.000 And then they kill him when he doesn't go along with it. 0.99

01:01:10.000 Right, right.

01:01:11.000 But it's just interesting because it has a lot to... I mean, Bruckheimer puts a lot of... In that film, whenever the computer comes up inside their safe house, the former NSA guy has to live in a wire cage just to do secure communications.

01:01:24.000 And folks, that's how it really is.

01:01:26.000 And then the computer comes up 9-1-1.

01:01:28.000 No big deal.

01:01:30.000 Right, yeah.

01:01:30.000 It's interesting, isn't it?

01:01:32.000 Anyway, it's a sad situation.

01:01:36.000 Right now, I mean, I only live five minutes from N.S.A.

01:01:39.000 Fort Meade.

01:01:40.000 Fort Meade and N.S.A.

01:01:41.000 And so, watching that movie, of course, kind of had a little bit of a local flavor to it.

01:01:49.000 And it points out a lot of good things.

01:01:52.000 But, you know, Bruckheimer and Hollywood actually puts out a lot of information that Things that are coming.

01:02:00.000 Things that they're into.

01:02:01.000 And they introduce it to us, and so it's not new news.

01:02:06.000 It makes it more palatable at a subconscious level.

01:02:08.000 Well, Alex, I'm going to let you go.

01:02:09.000 Let's get some of the callers in.

01:02:11.000 Thank you very much.

01:02:11.000 I appreciate it, Wyatt.

01:02:12.000 James in Maryland.

01:02:13.000 Another call from Maryland.

01:02:14.000 Go ahead, James.

01:02:19.000 He just hung up.

01:02:20.000 Well, you know what?

01:02:21.000 We're going to hold off on calls for now.

01:02:22.000 We've got Dar Jamal coming up here in just a moment.

01:02:26.000 But yeah, I mean, they come out and say, oh, all the big phone companies have NSA hooked into the, quote, switches and the hubs.

01:02:33.000 Yes, that was past federal law, federal funding in 1996, and I was an evil right-winger when I criticized Bill Clinton for doing it, and now Bush is doing it, and I'm an evil liberal, evil... No, I'm a constitutionalist.

01:02:49.000 I believe in a free society.

01:02:52.000 I'm against Clinton handing over ports to the Communist Chinese. 0.83

01:02:55.000 I'm against Bush handing it over to the UAE because it's a sweetheart deal and the federal laws weren't followed and because people inside his administration have engaged in federal crimes, taking money from the very company and then sitting on the boards that signed off on it.

01:03:08.000 And that's the rest of the story on that.

01:03:09.000 Go to PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

01:03:12.000 We wrote some big articles about that, Paul and I did yesterday.

01:03:15.000 You did a great job.

01:03:16.000 And so if people want to know the truth about the UAE deal, they can go read it right there.

01:03:21.000 When we get back, we'll talk to a gentleman who is just an amazing reporter, incredible courage.

01:03:27.000 Darja Maul's Iraq Dispatches have been read by tens of millions.

01:03:30.000 They've been syndicated all over the exploding alternative media and even some mainstream media.

01:03:35.000 And so we'll talk to him and then we'll also get his take on who benefits from the very mysterious shrine, the Golden Shrine, being blown up.

01:03:45.000 Who stands to gain from that?

01:03:47.000 It's all coming up.

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01:07:09.000 Welcome to DarJamalIraq.com.

01:07:12.000 Dar Jamal's Iraq Dispatches.

01:07:14.000 News from inside Iraq.

01:07:16.000 Weary of the overall failure of the U.S.

01:07:19.000 media to accurately report on the realities of the war in Iraq for the Iraqi people and U.S.

01:07:24.000 soldiers, Dar Jamal went to Iraq to report on the war itself.

01:07:28.000 His dispatches were quickly recognized as an important media resource and he is now writing for the Interpress Service, the Asia Times, and many other outlets.

01:07:37.000 His reports have also been published with The Nation, The Sunday Herald, Islam Online, The Guardian, and The Independent, to name just a few.

01:07:43.000 DAR's dispatches are hard news stories have been translated into French, Polish, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Portuguese, Chinese, Arabic, and Turkish on radio as well as television.

01:07:57.000 DAR reports for Democracy Now!, the BBC, and numerous other stations around the globe.

01:08:02.000 DAR is also a special correspondent for Flashpoints.

01:08:05.000 DAR has spent a total of eight months in occupied Iraq as one of only a few independent journalists in the country.

01:08:12.000 Dar uses the DarJamalIraq.com website for his popular mailing list to disseminate his dispatches.

01:08:19.000 And he joins us to talk about who benefits from the shocking destruction last week of the shrine in Iraq.

01:08:26.000 And he joins us to talk about the mass murder and the wickedness that he's witnessed and his take on 9-11.

01:08:30.000 I've heard him on other shows here on the network and he is spot on.

01:08:34.000 And I really admire people like Darr who have unbelievable courage to go over to Iraq and to risk their lives to bring us real news.

01:08:43.000 Because on the eve of the war, and we have mainstream articles on this, I'm very proud of it, the Globalist are.

01:08:48.000 They said, we're going to kill reporters that, quote, get out intel that could hurt us, or that get in our way, or that are embedged.

01:08:53.000 And they pulled tanks up in front of the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad, and fired with the Abrams in it, blowing up the Reuters reporters.

01:08:59.000 I mean, they drive up the Reuters reporters and machine gun them.

01:09:02.000 They drive around just murdering people.

01:09:04.000 And it's been all over the news.

01:09:06.000 I mean, this is total crime.

01:09:08.000 This is total evil.

01:09:09.000 It's just like in 1991, they bombed all the water treatment and power plants.

01:09:12.000 It all breaks every convention of international and federal law, but the globalists in control of our government, these imperial builders, these empire builders, They are saying they are the law.

01:09:24.000 And they say they can torture small children in front of their parents.

01:09:27.000 This is in presidential documents.

01:09:28.000 They say they can arrest Americans and hold them in camps and torture them and not give them trials.

01:09:34.000 We now learn thousands have been flown out to secret torture centers around the world.

01:09:38.000 We are entering hell itself.

01:09:39.000 Now major publications are talking about how they're building FEMA camps run by Halliburton for American citizens.

01:09:45.000 We're entering the ninth circle of hell.

01:09:47.000 It's really happening.

01:09:48.000 We have a chance to stop a new Nazi Germany-type takeover in America. 0.92

01:09:52.000 We're not shutting up like the Germans and the Soviets did in past evils. 0.96

01:09:56.000 We are not going to roll over like the Chinese people did to Mao. 0.98

01:09:59.000 We are going to fight this system.

01:10:01.000 We are going to expose it.

01:10:02.000 This is America and we're all not these little creatures that sit in their easy chairs watching ball games, sucking their thumbs, drinking slitsmalt liquor.

01:10:12.000 We are not Going along with this.

01:10:14.000 We care about this country.

01:10:16.000 We don't want to be part of an evil empire. 1.00

01:10:18.000 We don't want our blood and treasure and our young people to be used in these nuclear battlefields filled with DU for this sick empire of a bunch of pathetic chicken hunks. 1.00

01:10:27.000 Alright, that's enough of a rant. 0.98

01:10:29.000 Dar Jamal, thank you so much for joining us today.

01:10:31.000 Thanks for having me, Alex.

01:10:33.000 You bet.

01:10:34.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself and let's just go through kind of a thumbnail chronicle of when you first went to Iraq and what you witnessed there and the reality of the planned, admitted genocide, the destruction of the oldest civilization on the planet.

01:10:49.000 Well, as you just discussed in your lead, I was watching the media coverage of the situation in Iraq and the mainstream media back here in the U.S.

01:10:59.000 And then comparing that to what I was reading via the internet in foreign news sources and alternative media, and it was as if I was watching two totally different situations.

01:11:09.000 And I saw this coverage widen, the gap in the reality I saw over there versus how it was being portrayed over here.

01:11:16.000 I saw that widen over time.

01:11:18.000 on up through the invasion itself and then they continue to even worsen during the occupation and today I can say it's as bad as ever but that's what prompted me to decide well I'm going to head on over there because it was very clear to me I was reading it was clear that this war was not about weapons of mass destruction it was not about links to 9-11 it was simply about expansion of the American empire and I felt that

01:11:43.000 One thing I could do is put a little truth information out there for people to read.

01:11:49.000 So I went over there and reported on how it was actually affecting human beings.

01:11:53.000 Iraqis on the ground and U.S.

01:11:54.000 soldiers when I got the chance.

01:11:55.000 I went over there the first time in November of 2003.

01:12:00.000 Now, years ago you reported about how most of the newspapers were fake French.

01:12:04.000 People laughed at you.

01:12:05.000 Now it's admitted that almost every newspaper in the country that the articles are actually written in New York and in D.C.

01:12:12.000 by publicity firms and PR firms using folks that can write in Arabic and understand the culture.

01:12:19.000 Turns out that it's a Pentagon fraud and that reporters who don't tell the line are given 30 years in prison by the new dictatorship they've set up over there.

01:12:28.000 That's exactly right.

01:12:29.000 It's something that was, you know, not only has this been an invasion of Iraq by the military, but it's been an information control situation which started right at the very beginning during the invasion, and goes on up to this day.

01:12:43.000 Just to give you an idea, the U.S.-backed puppet government, during the time of the November 2004 siege of Fallujah, Ian Lowry, the then-Prime Minister, who is, of course, CIA also, Actually issued a statement to the media that said the media is instructed to follow the government line on the invasion of Fallujah or face serious consequences.

01:13:07.000 I mean, he reported that in Baghdad just as that siege was launched.

01:13:12.000 So that, coupled with direct violent attacks, as you mentioned, which happened during the invasion and which continue to happen right up until this present moment, on reporters who try to get the truth out that uh... this is uh... really draconian uh... measures being taken to control information coming out of iraq

01:13:32.000 And then they had a chief UN investigator was there and he said, and this just came out last week, it was in foreign press but never in the mainstream news here, that a thousand plus people a month are being grabbed and tortured to death.

01:13:45.000 The Army's own documents admit that 75 to 90 percent of those picked up are families who didn't have their papers in order.

01:13:51.000 They are taken, the children are raped in front of their parents by And then John Yoo, White House lawyer, says, yes, we're allowed to do this, and he's questioned about it at a CFR meeting, and on tape he says, yes, we're allowed to do this.

01:14:06.000 You know, hearing this sort of thing, along with testimonies from former UK ambassador Craig Murray, the ambassador to Uzbekistan, talking about how the CIA is renditioning people there and boiling them alive on top of what we're witnessing in Iraq, where over a thousand people have been killed since the bombing of the Asqariya Shrine in Samarra, I just really continue to wonder how much more will it take?

01:14:32.000 What else do people need to see?

01:14:35.000 Before they're willing to take the actions necessary to get back control of their government and what's happening in this country, because we have people being tortured, sent abroad, all of our phone calls, emails, credit card purchases, everything, our knowledge of the government now.

01:14:53.000 I just really wonder how much more it's going to take, because we, at present circumstances, we have two more years of this to go.

01:15:01.000 Well, Dar, the bigger problem is the Democrats are lockstep, the leadership, with this, and some of them are even more hawkish, like Labormoon and Hillary and Schumer and others.

01:15:11.000 Yeah, the Democrats are... the solution certainly does not lie with the Democrats, that's for sure.

01:15:19.000 Hello?

01:15:21.000 Hello?

01:15:22.000 Uh...

01:15:23.000 Hello?

01:15:24.000 Dar, are you there?

01:15:28.000 Yeah, can you hear me?

01:15:29.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny, this never happens except when I'm doing a particular interview with somebody who's been back for Iraq.

01:15:35.000 I'm here in Austin, they're up in Minnesota, and just for some reason our digital connection just cut out for a moment, so I apologize.

01:15:43.000 Chronicle for us, I mean, go over some of the horrors that you've witnessed, that you've documented for the international press, even things like the BBC that we never hear about here unless it's on your news website.

01:15:55.000 Well, for example, some of the things that you were just mentioning, we have the deliberate targeting of journalists going on over there, and I think one of the most obvious examples that, just off the top of my head though, is what happened when I went into Fallujah in April of 2004 during that siege.

01:16:12.000 It was the first siege of that city by the U.S.

01:16:15.000 military.

01:16:16.000 I decided to go in on April 9th, which was a day, if you looked at the mainstream media in the US, it was reported as a ceasefire.

01:16:24.000 That a ceasefire had been declared by the military to try to get negotiations going with the resistance fighters in the city and to allow more civilians to come out.

01:16:33.000 So I decided, well, I knew it would be dangerous, but I'll at least go in on a ceasefire.

01:16:37.000 What I saw was U.S. 0.55

01:16:39.000 warplanes dropping bombs in the middle of the city, helicopters strafing and sporadic fighting all over the place.

01:16:46.000 And then once I got in there, I got in on a bus carrying humanitarian supplies to a small clinic.

01:16:51.000 And what I saw at this clinic was one person after another, mostly women and children, being brought in from different parts of the city at different times, all saying the same thing, that they were being shot by U.S.

01:17:03.000 military snipers, a practice which now everyone in Iraq knows is common practice by the U.S.

01:17:08.000 military anytime they launch a major operation.

01:17:11.000 They're using snipers very heavily right now in Samarra and especially in Ramadi.

01:17:16.000 But that's what I saw inside Fallujah, and how it was reported in the mainstream media back here was that Fallujah is a town of terrorists, they don't want freedom, they don't want democracy, they'd rather just basically pay attention and be run to criminals and terrorists, and the reality was

01:17:35.000 It was a city of people that did not want to be occupied and the majority of the people fighting in that city were people from that city and of course most of the civilians were paying the heaviest price there during that siege and then of course later on in the November siege. 0.96

01:17:51.000 And at the same time, I mean, even before Fallujah, I remember articles in the London Independent, two and a half years ago, where they're there with Marines, going, watch me shoot this bitch, excuse me, using that term, and they blow a woman's head off, walking with a three-year-old, holding her hand, and she falls away, you know, and the child starts crying, just weirdo sickos, just shooting women, because it's fun. 0.94

01:18:13.000 Well, there certainly was a lot of that. 0.93

01:18:15.000 And I think, you know, every soldier responsible for doing things like that.

01:18:20.000 And I did, like one soldier I ran into coming out of Fallujah in April said, basically described it as a turkey shoot.

01:18:27.000 And I think all of those individuals should be held to account.

01:18:30.000 But I think, of course, we have to go on up the chain of command to who put them in this position, who allowed this to happen to begin with.

01:18:36.000 And of course, this goes directly up to the commander in chief.

01:18:39.000 Well, Dar Jamal, combat reporter in the middle of it.

01:18:42.000 Eight months inside the occupation inside Fallujah while it was being attacked.

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01:23:04.000 Eight months in Iraq, other parts of the world. 0.86

01:23:06.000 Dar Jamal, combat reporter, amazing individual.

01:23:10.000 Links to his website on InfoWars.com.

01:23:14.000 I want listeners to understand that when we tune in and hear neocons giggling and laughing, let's turn the whole Middle East into a parking lot.

01:23:20.000 I'd like them to go look at those children in the eyes and realize that Iraq was supposedly our ally and was set up for a fall. 0.97

01:23:28.000 And that when the minions of this system, you know, giggle about shooting children, this is really going on.

01:23:33.000 In fact, in front of a whole bunch of reporters in Baghdad, they just shot a bunch of little kids.

01:23:38.000 About a year and a half ago, and the reporters said to the Marines, how do you kill children?

01:23:44.000 I want to kill more, and started going, oh, oh, oh!

01:23:47.000 The Marines didn't act like that 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, 200 years ago, when we fought the British. 0.98

01:23:53.000 This is shameful.

01:23:54.000 This is how Nazis act. 0.88

01:23:56.000 And I don't want to hear support the troops by supporting this type of evil.

01:23:59.000 Our good name is going down the toilet.

01:24:02.000 Great evil is going to come back on this country because of what's happening.

01:24:06.000 And I remember watching live invasion, live cell phone, internet satellite phone feeds off computers.

01:24:13.000 Uh, off of the tanks as they drove in down the Baghdad highways.

01:24:16.000 Machine gunning, bread trucks, cars, people falling out of the doors.

01:24:20.000 I have video of it.

01:24:21.000 There's mass murder right there in front of everyone.

01:24:24.000 Almost no one resisting.

01:24:26.000 And they're just running around in a bloodbath.

01:24:28.000 I mean, this is a frenzy of evil.

01:24:29.000 Dar, can you talk about that?

01:24:31.000 You're exactly right, and I think just first of all, lining out, I think it's always important to line out how many Iraqis have actually been killed, and of course this is not a big surprise when we look at this in the context of history, that all imperial invasions are brutal.

01:24:47.000 Civilians always pay the highest price, and this one is no different from that. 1.00

01:24:51.000 And if we talk about how many innocent Iraqis have been killed, the Lancet report, which came out over a year ago, estimated conservatively 98,000.

01:25:00.000 Dead.

01:25:01.000 And I argue that that's far too low for three main reasons.

01:25:04.000 One, it's well over a year out of date.

01:25:06.000 Two, so as not to skew the survey, they did not include areas of major combat operations like the Fallujahs and the Najafs.

01:25:13.000 That's thousands of deaths right there.

01:25:15.000 And then three, and I think most importantly, is what they used for the baseline of this study was the last year and a half of the sanctions.

01:25:23.000 The sanctions were over a million Iraqis were killed.

01:25:26.000 That, coupled with, we look at the carnage going on right now, which just continues to escalate today, is no exception, with at least 30 people killed, very conservatively.

01:25:36.000 I think it can easily be argued that there's been a quarter of a million Iraqis killed just since the invasion was launched, not even talking about the sanctions where over a million were killed.

01:25:46.000 So, when we look at it in that context, the fact that soldiers come in, they've been essentially given the green light from the top down, from chicken hawks like George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld, that trickles down, of course, through the chain of command, and they essentially then are acting on those impulses.

01:26:04.000 Looking at it that way, it's really not a big surprise, and I think that is a trend that is continuing in Iraq today, and will continue on as long as the occupation persists.

01:26:16.000 On NBC in 1997, Madeleine Albright was asked if 700,000 dead Iraqi children was a good price to pay.

01:26:22.000 She didn't deny it.

01:26:23.000 She said, yeah, it's a good price to pay for, quote, security in the Gulf, as if it gives Somebody's security.

01:26:29.000 Conservative numbers, a million and a half dead.

01:26:31.000 Official numbers over the 12 plus years of sanctions.

01:26:34.000 Still sanction-like atmosphere there.

01:26:36.000 Worse than it was before.

01:26:38.000 Dysentery, the birth defects from the DU.

01:26:41.000 So conservatively, what, 1,800,000 dead total.

01:26:42.000 They've gone from, what, 25 million to down to about 22, 23 million people.

01:26:46.000 They've gone from, what, 25 million to down to about 22, 23 million people.

01:26:51.000 This is genocide.

01:26:52.000 It really is, and I don't think it's a stretch at all to describe it as such.

01:26:57.000 Especially, you made a very important point earlier, talking about the deliberate targeting of the infrastructure of the electrical plants, of the water treatment plants, back in 1991.

01:27:06.000 Iraq was almost a first world nation in 1990.

01:27:10.000 It was.

01:27:11.000 In fact, Iraq was such, their health system, just to give you an idea, during the 80s, Iraq was the best health system in the entire Middle East.

01:27:19.000 Anyone could go in and get first-rate treatment anytime they wanted for free.

01:27:24.000 Iraq took great pains to send their doctors abroad to get the latest training available.

01:27:29.000 And then that, of course, was crushed at the beginning of the Gulf War and then the sanctions.

01:27:34.000 And now, as you said, it's even worse than during the sanctions now, where if someone enters a hospital in Iraq to be treated, There's an 80% chance that they will leave that hospital with an infectious disease that they did not have when they entered.

01:27:47.000 What is it like, Dara, to be in those hospitals with those shattered toddlers, their bodies shattered?

01:27:53.000 It's horrific.

01:27:54.000 I think, without a doubt, it's been the most difficult part of working as a reporter over there is seeing the civilians paying the price.

01:28:01.000 These are people that, keeping in mind that most of these people, they did, of course, not believe the rhetoric that the U.S.

01:28:08.000 was coming just to help Iraqis.

01:28:11.000 They knew it was about oil.

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01:28:14.000 But, at the same time, they supported the overthrow of Saddam, and now they're the ones paying the highest price.

01:28:20.000 I don't know what I'd do if I had to see all those dead children.

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01:28:24.000 To smell it.

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01:28:27.000 I don't want to say what I'd do.

01:28:29.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

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01:36:04.000 And then we also have the situation with the upcoming war with Iran, what do you think is going to happen there, and a lot more.

01:36:10.000 Let's just run through that for people, and then we're going to take calls.

01:36:14.000 Dar's going to stay a little bit with us into the next hour as well.

01:36:17.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:36:17.000 If it's for Dar Jamal on any of these issues, 1-800-259-9231.

01:36:26.000 Let's bullet point run through them, Dar. 0.94

01:36:28.000 Well, first of all, the mosque bombing. 0.84

01:36:30.000 I think it's a very, very important thing to talk about and keep talking about for quite some time.

01:36:35.000 Again, it's important to contextualize it.

01:36:38.000 You look at what happened down in Basra about nine months ago, where the two undercover British SAS officers were caught.

01:36:44.000 by Iraqi police in disguise wearing dishdash of keffiyehs, trying to appear as Arabs in a car full of explosives and remote detonator devices.

01:36:54.000 They were put in jail.

01:36:55.000 They were going to be tried for trying to generate sectarian violence.

01:36:58.000 Instead, the British military literally razed the jail to free them.

01:37:02.000 And of course have them in custody as a result.

01:37:05.000 The Brits have lost all contact with the Governor of Basra.

01:37:08.000 They've lost, even more recently, all ties with the Karbala government have been cut.

01:37:13.000 And today, two British soldiers were killed down in Amara, which is the city where the British troops were beating Iraqi youth, that infamous video.

01:37:22.000 Uh, is available for people to see also.

01:37:24.000 I believe they released that on purpose to stir people up, just like the, uh, Muhammad, uh, Prophet Muhammad, uh, bomb, uh, cartoons put out by neocons, we now learn.

01:37:33.000 And that's all part of the P-2-O-G plan, to stir up the Muslims and the Arabs and the Persians. 1.00

01:37:39.000 It's, it's in the P-N-A-C plan, it's in the 1983 Israeli plan, to have the U.S. 0.99

01:37:44.000 invade, break it into three or four regions, and have it be endless war, because they don't want that to be a strong region.

01:37:50.000 Exactly, which is the perfect setup to discuss what happened in Samar at the Golden Mosque, where this is a Shia mosque, one of the four most sacred Shia shrines in all of Iraq.

01:38:02.000 And Samar, of course, is a primarily Sunni city.

01:38:05.000 This mosque has been there for over a thousand years.

01:38:07.000 Nothing has ever happened to it.

01:38:09.000 Sunnis have protected it. 0.99

01:38:10.000 So why at this critical stage would they launch an attack on the shrine?

01:38:13.000 Yeah, I want to point out that there are Catholic churches built in 300, you know, 345 in areas of Iraq that the Muslims all guard as well.

01:38:22.000 They don't run around blowing up anybody's shrines.

01:38:25.000 Yeah, without a doubt.

01:38:26.000 And I think if you just look at the facts, of course, and I think most importantly is who benefits from this.

01:38:32.000 We've got a government now in Iraq that the U.S.

01:38:35.000 is essentially losing control of.

01:38:37.000 If the Shia and Sunni unite against them, it's basically game over for the U.S. 1.00

01:38:42.000 in Iraq.

01:38:43.000 And the timing of this couldn't be better for the Americans, where now there's been massive chaos, massive bloodshed, Sunnis and Shias fighting against each other instead of uniting and fighting against the occupation forces. 0.99

01:38:55.000 And then you look at how this demolition of the mosque was done, and they do call it a demolition and not just a random bomb.

01:39:02.000 It was a professional job.

01:39:03.000 You can look at the photos and see that for yourself.

01:39:07.000 Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise, but we are meant to think it was jawless.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, exactly, and the fact that even one of the ministers of Iraq has come out and said that this is a professional job, it couldn't have taken less than 12 hours for people to set this up.

01:39:24.000 We have eyewitnesses in Samara, one in particular who was sleeping in his internet cafe to guard his computers.

01:39:30.000 Because that's the security situation in Iraq, and he watched people go into the mosque the night before and then leave just after curfew was raised at 6 a.m.

01:39:39.000 the next morning.

01:39:40.000 Of course, 45 minutes after that is when the first detonation went off.

01:39:43.000 Well, the reports we're getting is that it looks like it was Iraqi National Guard.

01:39:49.000 Well, of course that's how they were described, that these people were essentially dressed as Iraqi National Guard.

01:39:56.000 Others were described as wearing all black.

01:39:59.000 Keep in mind, again, how the British officers in the South were operating, trying to appear Iraqi.

01:40:04.000 So I think there's two possibilities here, either that these are some of the Botter death squads that Rumfeld admitted to training back in January 2005, that they were in there setting the bombs with U.S. supervision, or they were U.S. covert ops directly doing the job.

01:40:21.000 Now, to break this down, one of the major tools of Empire is divide and conquer, and that's clearly happening.

01:40:28.000 And in Basra nine months ago, they caught two British SAS, Special Air Services.

01:40:33.000 That's what the Delta Force and Green Berets are modeled after.

01:40:37.000 And they were running around with a jeep full of plastic explosives seen around the areas of car bombings and then caught red-handed shooting their own police, shooting the Basra police, and then blaming it on Iranian Shia forces.

01:40:52.000 And then they actually captured them, and then the local mayor said, we're going to try these people.

01:40:57.000 The governor said we're going to try them, so there was a tank assault on them.

01:41:01.000 On the elected government's jail to spring these two crooks.

01:41:07.000 Exactly.

01:41:08.000 And then they, of course, were taken back in custody by the British military.

01:41:12.000 And from that point on, the British, the governor of Basra, has cut all ties with the British military.

01:41:18.000 And that's why now most of the British patrols in the South are being done by helicopters.

01:41:22.000 Because that has spread up to Karbala, where more recently that governor has cut all ties with the British military.

01:41:29.000 They're all demanding that the British withdraw.

01:41:31.000 They're demanding that the Danish troops that are there in Iraq withdraw.

01:41:35.000 And then, of course, today we see attacks being launched against the British in Amaras.

01:41:40.000 Well, I call this a snowball effect.

01:41:42.000 It's what COINTELPRO did in America in the 60s and 70s, when now their handbooks have been declassified. 0.96

01:41:47.000 You've got a few agents, and they'll go kill one black leader, and then blame it on the other black leader, and then the black groups will start killing each other. 0.97

01:41:56.000 It's a snowball. 1.00

01:41:57.000 They just start the ball rolling.

01:41:59.000 They have a few targeted bombings, and then they blame it on someone else to get everybody stirred up killing each other.

01:42:06.000 And I want to go back here because this is totally declassified.

01:42:09.000 I'm making a film about it.

01:42:10.000 It was a few minutes of this new film I'm making.

01:42:13.000 And this is admitted, okay?

01:42:17.000 This is public.

01:42:18.000 In 1953, Dr. Mohamed Mozadek was pro-America, anti-communist, driven the communists out, Time Magazine Man of the Year, and he just said, look, we're going to keep a small amount of the oil money for our own country.

01:42:29.000 BP doesn't own it all.

01:42:31.000 And so, literally, the Prime Minister called up the U.S.

01:42:33.000 and said, do something about it.

01:42:35.000 I've got the communiques between them.

01:42:36.000 They say, the CIA controls most of your media.

01:42:39.000 Have your agents in your media.

01:42:40.000 I'm reading this from 1952.

01:42:43.000 Go and create fake news that he's a communist and anti-America.

01:42:47.000 And literally Britain orders us, because they're the boss, still are, they order us as the Anglo-American establishment, it's not us, it's not America, it's these globalists manipulating us as an engine of control and empire, and they order him.

01:42:58.000 So Kermit Roosevelt, with nine guys and a couple million dollars, goes and hires some of the pro-Shah forces, and they brag. 0.76

01:43:05.000 They go bomb a religious cleric, a mullah's house. 0.99

01:43:09.000 They then bomb a mosque. 0.64

01:43:10.000 They machine gun a crowd during daily prayers.

01:43:12.000 They hand out thousands of handbills saying, Mosadek did it, up with Mosadek, up with communism, down with Allah.

01:43:18.000 You know, God is, just all this incredible stuff.

01:43:21.000 And people bought into it.

01:43:23.000 They rioted. 0.70

01:43:24.000 They went nuts.

01:43:25.000 And then they convicted Mosadek, three years in prison, then life and house arrest, chopped the heads off of most of his ministers, when they did it, and then Kermit Roosevelt brags about it.

01:43:36.000 Yeah, and again, it's a really good point of contextualization.

01:43:40.000 This is nothing new.

01:43:41.000 It's been going on since the beginning of the occupation of Iraq, and I think we'll see, we'll certainly see more of it, because the remarkable thing, though, I think that should be pointed out, is that despite widespread violence over the last five days as a result of this bombing, that now, more than ever, we see Muqtada al-Sadr is taking great steps towards keeping Iraq unified.

01:44:03.000 He's sent delegation to pray.

01:44:04.000 In Sunni Mosque, there's been mutual prayers in Mosque up and down the country, and so far they've been able to stave off.

01:44:11.000 Are the majority of Iraqis, I mean, other more sophisticated, because they've been through hell than most Westerners, but are they figuring out who's behind this? 1.00

01:44:18.000 Oh, they're very, very clear who's behind it.

01:44:21.000 The one problem is that their revenge killing is playing into this a lot, so that's kind of outside of the scope of direct civil war.

01:44:32.000 But certainly, the vast majority of the people there are very, very clear that this is part of a project for the new American century.

01:44:38.000 There are just direct ties to the government of Israel.

01:44:41.000 And by the way, the British played off the four groups the last time they had taken over Iraq.

01:44:47.000 I'm sorry, say again?

01:44:49.000 Uh, what, 85 years ago, the British did the exact same thing in Iraq, where they'd play the different factions off against each other.

01:44:54.000 They did, without a doubt, and they issued the exact same propaganda that the British can't possibly pull out because Iraq will be plunged into civil war, that basically the Arabs will kill each other.

01:45:04.000 The exact same propaganda is being recycled this time around.

01:45:07.000 It's incredible.

01:45:08.000 It never stops.

01:45:10.000 It really doesn't, and I think this, though, the scale and the level and the blatancy of it that we're witnessing right now abroad and right here at home, though, I think is rather unprecedented that these people, it appears as though they're not even concerned about trying to hide anymore of what they're trying to do.

01:45:31.000 And just like 85 years ago, the Tories, the Conservatives, the Labor, they're all together on it.

01:45:37.000 Same thing here in the U.S., Democrats, Republicans, almost unanimously for it. 0.95

01:45:42.000 The people don't want it in both countries, but our imperial leaders say we've got to go kill people.

01:45:48.000 That's right, and I think that's really one of the most worrisome signs, is that this country is a long ways off from being a healthy democracy.

01:45:56.000 We've got a government where even today we see Bush's approval ratings down to an all-time low of 34%, and probably will continue to drop.

01:46:05.000 And they just don't care, because as you said, it's really just a matter of time before They start applying the draconian measures they're applying over in Iraq.

01:46:13.000 It's essentially a test ground.

01:46:15.000 They're implying... Sir, they call it a laboratory.

01:46:18.000 I ought to send you some of my videos.

01:46:20.000 This is back when Clinton was in office and it still goes on.

01:46:22.000 I have Marines on video admitting they're training to put us in camps and take our guns.

01:46:27.000 They're having urban warfare in almost every major city in the country to condition the public.

01:46:30.000 They're openly building FEMA camps.

01:46:32.000 America is the real prize here.

01:46:34.000 I want people to understand, all these neocons, all these good old boys, you need to understand folks, this isn't a joke.

01:46:43.000 They want to set up a dictatorship.

01:46:46.000 Seriously, this is really happening.

01:46:50.000 I mean, your take just on how everything they're doing in Iraq, they're now trying to set up the same systems here?

01:46:56.000 Well, if you look at, for example, the biometrics that they've used regarding Fallujah after the November siege, they set it up so that everyone going in and out of that city has to get a retina scan.

01:47:06.000 Ten fingers fingerprinted and then they get essentially a barcode administered to them.

01:47:11.000 And that system is being applied now in other places around Iraq on a smaller scale.

01:47:16.000 Well now look at what's happening here with our passports.

01:47:19.000 We're going to get chips in them.

01:47:21.000 Even in the last week we've had a documented instance of two workers having chips inserted in them.

01:47:27.000 Uh, physically.

01:47:27.000 So, uh, it's, it is a test ground.

01:47:30.000 And if we look at how the military's being used there, and of course the alarming merging of the military and corporate interests there, and if we look at what happened in response to Katrina, we have the same security groups operating in Iraq are now operating right here on U.S.

01:47:45.000 soil.

01:47:45.000 Yeah, along with foreign assets.

01:47:47.000 And for those that don't get this, again, last year at MIT Magazine reported how the cameras, the face scanning cameras, the license plate readers, all the stuff going in, federally paid for, was designed by the Pentagon and is, quote, to control the population in a, quote, security grid.

01:48:04.000 Right, and if you look up, another very disturbing thing is if you look at military manuals, and you think this is going to be applied to Iraq and the way that they describe people who resist them, even if someone has a political belief that is against

01:48:24.000 Sir, in Senate hearings last week, the chairman of the committee, I don't know if you've heard this shit, I can pull it out and read it to you later, he said we need to start arresting and surveilling and going after these war protesters because we're really fifth columnists.

01:48:36.000 Right, I did read that, and I think that's extremely alarming, and again, if that's not a wake-up call... They're the fifth column! 0.97

01:48:41.000 They're the fifth column! 0.93

01:48:42.000 They're the traitors that have seized this country as an engine of their Nazi activities, just like Hitler grabbing Germany as an engine! 1.00

01:48:49.000 You are the criminals! 1.00

01:48:50.000 You need to be arrested, scum! 1.00

01:48:52.000 Yes, without a doubt, and of course that is part of propaganda, twisting the reality around to try to portray the innocent civilians and the law-abiding people and the people trying to defend the Constitution as being quite the opposite. 1.00

01:49:04.000 It's quite, again, it's another old trick that is recycled.

01:49:09.000 Dar, I want to come back and talk to Don and a few other callers that are holding for you, and then we're going to get another amazing American on.

01:49:15.000 John Sharp, talking about similar issues altogether, riding shotgun here.

01:49:20.000 And you notice, I've never talked to Dar before.

01:49:22.000 I mean, I called him last week and said, would you come on?

01:49:24.000 No pre-interviews, no nothing.

01:49:25.000 We're on the exact same page.

01:49:26.000 We can finish each other's sentences.

01:49:29.000 Whereas the mainstream media constantly lying, new stories every day, twisting, because we're covering the facts, okay?

01:49:34.000 I've interviewed dozens and dozens of soldiers, officers who were there.

01:49:38.000 I've interviewed commanders on air.

01:49:40.000 I've read the reports.

01:49:41.000 I've read the government documents.

01:49:42.000 We're just going off the facts, okay? 1.00

01:49:45.000 So you go ahead and laugh at the Iraqis, and huh-huh-huh, kill them, kill them, kill them. 1.00

01:49:49.000 It's going to happen to you. 1.00

01:49:50.000 You're going to get raped by these same bastards. 1.00

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01:52:48.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:53:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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01:53:13.000 Your calls are now coming up.

01:53:16.000 And I don't want the evil that these globalists are doing being in my name. 0.96

01:53:19.000 I will not stand by as children and women are slaughtered and innocent people are killed on a lie, while a bunch of fat-bellied nobodies sit in their easy chairs giggling about it.

01:53:30.000 Whatever you do comes back on you, and it isn't going to be at the hands of the Arabs, ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be at the hands of this new world order. 1.00

01:53:36.000 Well, this is so sick and so evil.

01:53:38.000 Tens of thousands of tons of DU use in Iraq twice.

01:53:41.000 Birth defects off the charts.

01:53:43.000 Our own troops dying of it.

01:53:45.000 This is so sick and evil.

01:53:48.000 Let's go ahead. 0.91

01:53:48.000 We're talking to Dar Jamal. 0.91

01:53:49.000 Later with him, we're going to get into Iran and his take on that and his reporting on that as the globalists gear up for that.

01:53:55.000 Don in Texas, you're on the air.

01:53:56.000 Go ahead, Don.

01:53:57.000 Oh, hi there.

01:53:59.000 Where is he from? 0.59

01:54:02.000 Dard, tell them your background. 1.00

01:54:03.000 Actually, I'm from Houston, Texas, originally. 0.84

01:54:06.000 Yeah, but your family background.

01:54:08.000 Yeah, my great-grandparents on my father's side are Christian Lebanese.

01:54:13.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:14.000 Well, you know, anyway, I was stationed in Willis Air Base, you know, where it's at in Oweah.

01:54:21.000 You speak Arabic, I guess.

01:54:23.000 A little bit.

01:54:23.000 Well, you should keep your family toned.

01:54:26.000 By the way, I'm so proud of how many Texans are fighting the New World Order. 0.92

01:54:30.000 We had two of them in studio yesterday, Alan Pogue and of course Don Darling.

01:54:34.000 Well anyway, I was going to speak of, for one thing, Fallujah.

01:54:39.000 Am I still on air?

01:54:40.000 Yes sir, you're on the air.

01:54:41.000 Go ahead.

01:54:41.000 Right.

01:54:42.000 Well anyway, I'm familiar with a few mercenary type people.

01:54:46.000 Well, I'm not one of them.

01:54:47.000 Okay, fine.

01:54:48.000 Go ahead.

01:54:49.000 Class 3 gun stores, if you hang out there, you're going to run into them.

01:54:52.000 There are different classes.

01:54:53.000 Some of them are adventurers, the kind of boy scout guys, the guys that like to hang out in barracks, the military. 0.86

01:54:59.000 Then there's some wacko, real psychotic people who like the smell of blood. 1.00

01:55:04.000 And you're aware that we have many, what, 30,000 contractors over there in Iraq, and a lot of them are You know, they dig the idea, and some, even men giving drugs.

01:55:16.000 I thought it was 60,000 contractors.

01:55:18.000 Well, I'm just being very conservative.

01:55:20.000 Dar, how many contractors?

01:55:21.000 Well, since it's private companies, it's hard to get the figures, but my research, I estimate the lowest number is 20,000, and upwards of 70,000.

01:55:31.000 Well, you're familiar with different names of them, like ISI, Jack Titan.

01:55:35.000 Right, because of the Battle of Blackwater, USA.

01:55:38.000 Some of those are, you know, they're covering the Halliburton umbrella now to disguise them.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, they're subsidiaries.

01:55:44.000 So what's your point, please?

01:55:46.000 Well, that Israel is behind a lot of this and the deception. 0.90

01:55:50.000 I'm not against Jews.

01:55:51.000 I'm for, you know, you're very nice to Israel because you can't just put a big brush on the whole thing.

01:56:00.000 There are a whole bunch of Israeli contractors in the torture camps and everywhere else.

01:56:06.000 The Marines have caught them dressed up like Arabs killing Marines. 1.00

01:56:10.000 The museum in Iraq was raided and broken into for one reason.

01:56:15.000 If you're an anthropologist or studied Egyptology, there's a lot of the ancient writings that show what happened.

01:56:25.000 5,000, 4,000 years ago.

01:56:26.000 I think they were stealing it because of its value.

01:56:28.000 Thank you for the call.

01:56:29.000 Angeline Connecticut, you're on the air.

01:56:31.000 Go ahead.

01:56:31.000 Hello there.

01:56:33.000 Thank you so very much for speaking with me.

01:56:36.000 I'm the lady that spoke to you that... Will you turn your radio off, please?

01:56:39.000 Oh, okay.

01:56:40.000 Can you turn that off?

01:56:41.000 I'm so... I apologize for that.

01:56:41.000 Thank you.

01:56:43.000 I'm the lady that was... to speak at the U.N.

01:56:47.000 Quite a few months ago, and I promised I would get back to you.

01:56:49.000 But I was so grimly disappointed with the talk that ended up we having and addressing the group that it was impossible for me to really get back to you because...

01:57:02.000 Okay, I remember some vague call about you were going to give a speech at the U.N.

01:57:05.000 Yes, and unfortunately they were into their woo-woo kind of new age kind of thing.

01:57:14.000 Okay, stay there, man.

01:57:15.000 I'm going to have to see, you're kind of having a conversation.

01:57:17.000 I don't mean to be rude with yourself because you're just...

01:57:19.000 I don't even know what you're talking about, so you have to just tell me what it is.

01:57:22.000 You have to tell me what you're talking about.

01:57:24.000 I want to go to Jamie and many others that are patiently holding to Archamal.

01:57:28.000 Tied him shotgun with us.

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01:57:41.000 Tied him on the phone.

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01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 All right, starting the third hour.

01:58:17.000 If callers want to call in about other subjects...

01:58:20.000 They're welcome to do it when these guests aren't with us.

01:58:22.000 I'm really trying to talk about the upcoming war with Iran, government-staged terror in Iraq, the killing of civilians, the police state here.

01:58:28.000 Dar Jamal, combat reporter, eight months off and on in-country during the war and the occupation.

01:58:34.000 He's been in Fallujah during the siege, and he'll be joining us for much of this hour.

01:58:38.000 Coming up later, we're going to have John Sharp on with us, a scheduled publisher of the powerful books, Neocon and Neocon Again, that we carry at InfoWars.com.

01:58:47.000 Let's continue with calls for Dar Jamal. 0.98

01:58:49.000 Hassan, I believe, calling us from Canada.

01:58:51.000 You're on the air.

01:58:52.000 Go ahead.

01:58:54.000 That's classic.

01:58:55.000 He just hung up as I went to him.

01:58:56.000 Okay.

01:58:57.000 James in Texas.

01:58:58.000 James, you're on the air.

01:58:59.000 Go ahead, James.

01:59:00.000 Yes.

01:59:02.000 I wanted to ask if you would consider not offending the Nazis by comparing the way we're treating the Iraqis to the way they treated whomever. 0.84

01:59:13.000 I don't think they ever treated anyone the way we're treating the I think they were doing some raping and some torturing, quite a bit of it actually.

01:59:23.000 But let me just say this, the Nazis didn't brag about it and publish it. 0.74

01:59:27.000 And Hitler's lawyers didn't put out newspaper articles saying they can crush children's body parts in front of their parents.

01:59:33.000 So the Nazis never bragged this much and didn't try to normalize it.

01:59:37.000 They just did it behind closed doors.

01:59:40.000 Well, another thing that I think I should draw another parallel is that I've personally documented doctors, U.S.

01:59:47.000 Army medics, being very complicit in the torture, either by trying to hide it and conceal it in falsified medical reports or assisting, like, you know, basically going in halfway through the torture saying, no, okay, you can give it to this person a little bit more.

02:00:02.000 Okay, and again, for those that don't know, DAR reported on this months before it hit mainstream news.

02:00:07.000 It is admitted that they actually have doctors helping in the torture.

02:00:11.000 Yeah, without a doubt.

02:00:12.000 I was reporting on that as far back as January of 2004, and then, of course, this was a case, though, actually, that the actual torture story that I reported where this occurred happened back in August of 2003.

02:00:25.000 What about organ grabbing?

02:00:26.000 We know that some of these people have their organs taken, not just in Iraq, but in Israel.

02:00:32.000 That I haven't come across in Iraq, but at this point with what's going on there, I don't think too much would surprise me. 0.95

02:00:39.000 Anything else, James?

02:00:42.000 Okay, Reagan in California.

02:00:44.000 You're on the air, Reagan.

02:00:45.000 Go ahead.

02:00:45.000 Hi, how are you?

02:00:49.000 I was going to sit here and listen to this and just stay off the phone.

02:00:49.000 Good.

02:00:53.000 But what got me on the phone with you is to let people know that this is happening already right here.

02:00:59.000 The example is found on your website with the new WTC site.

02:01:06.000 And you were talking a little while ago with your guest about having your retina scanned.

02:01:10.000 That's exactly what they're going to do down there.

02:01:13.000 Nationwide, in any building, you'll have to retina scan.

02:01:15.000 The National ID Card passed last year, known as Real ID.

02:01:18.000 You'll have to have it to have a job.

02:01:19.000 You'll have to scan it.

02:01:20.000 They're going to have a national sales tax that phony conservatives are pushing. 1.00

02:01:23.000 They will not replace the income tax.

02:01:25.000 They're going to have both.

02:01:26.000 Yeah, I would ask anybody that if this thing does go up, I call it the George Pataki Bush Treason Tower.

02:01:33.000 That's all it is.

02:01:34.000 It's the Illuminati's new base in New York, and please don't go near it.

02:01:38.000 Don't go near it.

02:01:39.000 That was in the Associated Press yesterday.

02:01:39.000 Yeah, I hear you.

02:01:41.000 Thanks for the call, Reagan.

02:01:42.000 Did you hear about that, Dar, about how they said, oh, for security, we're going to have to retina scan anyone that goes in the building and have armed guards and face scanning cameras?

02:01:49.000 No, I didn't hear about that.

02:01:51.000 Well, I saw Ridge three and a half, four years ago on C-SPAN say that to have a job, to work everywhere, we're going to be under this.

02:01:58.000 Well, it's certainly not a surprise if we look at what they're already doing, what they're doing to other citizens from Europe, for example, that want to come into the U.S. 0.84

02:02:06.000 when they go through customs getting a retina scan.

02:02:08.000 So, it's certainly just a continuation of the trend.

02:02:11.000 Well, when we get back, I want to get into Iran with you, and then I also want to talk about how you think this is all going to end in Iraq.

02:02:19.000 How this is going to play out.

02:02:21.000 Because we've been told this war on terror is going to last generations.

02:02:24.000 There's 60 plus countries on the PNAC hit list.

02:02:26.000 We're talking to Dar Jamal. 0.61

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02:05:51.000 Alright, coming up in a little while we'll be joined by John Sharp, talking about the same issues, the whole world government, the imperial empire.

02:06:00.000 What's happening in Iraq, the Iran situation.

02:06:02.000 We're about to go to Hassan, who is now back. 0.99

02:06:06.000 Barney, Mike, and Jim.

02:06:08.000 We'll continue with calls throughout this hour.

02:06:09.000 Dar Jamal, combat reporter, eight months plus spent in Iraq.

02:06:14.000 Dar, the Iran situation, they're using the exact same propaganda of three and a half years ago on the eve of the invasion, now coming up on the three year anniversary this month.

02:06:24.000 Uh, to now invade Iran when it's admitted they can't have any A-bombs for ten years. 0.96

02:06:29.000 They've left alone to buy whatever they wanted.

02:06:31.000 So, it's just no basis in reality.

02:06:35.000 Again, exactly as you said, it's another instance of them recycling the same exact propaganda, and I think the difference with Iran is that they don't have an interest in an occupation.

02:06:45.000 They're going to just use massive aerial bombardment and lots of covert ops, as we've already seen, where just yesterday there was more bombings in two southern Iranian oil cities.

02:06:55.000 Which is nothing new, also.

02:06:56.000 And then they say Al-Qaeda did it, and then on top of it, it's admitted that U.S.

02:07:01.000 Special Forces are hiding in the hills all over the country.

02:07:05.000 Without a doubt.

02:07:06.000 That, coupled with unmanned surveillance flights that have been going on for several months now, many covert operations going on, and Special Forces on the ground, and have been for many months.

02:07:15.000 Dams being blown up?

02:07:17.000 Imagine America, if stuff was blowing up, dams were blowing up, you know it's the globalists, there's nothing you can do.

02:07:22.000 And how dare Iran criticize us while we're just bombing them? 1.00

02:07:26.000 That's right, and I think another really important thing to pay attention to is what will happen in Iraq when this bombardment is launched against Iran, and it's not if, it's when.

02:07:35.000 And I know I don't need to tell you that, but what will happen in Iraq is we look at already the two leading Shia clerics, Grand Ayatollah Sistani, who was born in Iran and moved to Najaf in 1953, is going to do essentially what he's told by the clerics in, by the mullahs in Iran, and then we have Muqtada al-Sadr, the other leading Shia cleric, who has already announced

02:07:57.000 publicly that if Iran is attacked by anyone, of course, his militia in Iraq will fight for Iran both in and outside of Iran.

02:08:07.000 And the globalists know that.

02:08:09.000 It's P2OG again.

02:08:12.000 It's like literally beating a hornet's nest with a giant baseball bat.

02:08:16.000 They know that it's going to explode, and we're off to the races.

02:08:21.000 That's right, and of course that opens the door for them to use whatever types of weapons they want to use there, and of course it will be very good for the military-industrial complex.

02:08:31.000 And I believe the network's trying to talk to me, but it isn't coming through.

02:08:34.000 What was that, guys?

02:08:37.000 Okay, thank you so much.

02:08:38.000 I appreciate that message.

02:08:40.000 Again, I'm down in Austin, Texas.

02:08:41.000 They're up in Minnesota.

02:08:42.000 We're about to go to our guest, John Sharp.

02:08:44.000 And Dar is gracious enough to ride shotgun with us.

02:08:46.000 Both these men who I admire greatly, especially Dar Jamal, being over there eight months.

02:08:52.000 And we're also, Dar, hearing the media frame the debate that how dare the Iranians Scum of Satan, if they dare fight back or do anything, and when we bomb 200 sites with DU, depleted uranium, maybe even they're talking about using mini-nukes, no such thing, but they're calling them mini-nukes, super bunker busters, imagine their evil if they fight back.

02:09:15.000 If they do anything, why then we'll have to invade the South and go ahead and take their oil fields, where most of their oil is located. 0.68

02:09:22.000 Can you imagine an evil country, so evil, That they let special forces troops run around all over their country, blow up dams, bomb refineries, clearly doing it, staging terror in Iraq, blaming it on Iran, and then can you imagine how evil they are that they're saying they may fight back if attacked? 0.80

02:09:39.000 I've never heard of such evil.

02:09:41.000 Exactly.

02:09:41.000 And all empires through history have used this tactic, this propaganda tactic, of dehumanizing the people who resist them.

02:09:49.000 I mean, if we're going to apply that same logic being used by the people in Washington, D.C., then we have to call the American patriots who fought against the British.

02:09:58.000 They would be terrorists then as well. 0.99

02:10:01.000 Then there's this line that all the Muslims want to eat our guts and eat our brains. 1.00

02:10:04.000 I mean, you're a Christian yourself, and that they just all can't wait to slit our throats immediately. 1.00

02:10:08.000 They've always left us alone.

02:10:10.000 They will leave us alone if we leave them alone.

02:10:12.000 In fact, in the past, the first treaty we had was with a Muslim nation.

02:10:16.000 George Washington signed it.

02:10:17.000 They were always friendly towards America.

02:10:20.000 They don't like the British, and I understand why, who keep taking over their countries. 1.00

02:10:24.000 And it's just, it's such a fraud. 0.96

02:10:26.000 It's such a lie. 1.00

02:10:27.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.99

02:10:29.000 Mozadek was a poet. 0.96

02:10:30.000 He was pro-America.

02:10:32.000 Okay?

02:10:33.000 They overthrew the guy, and they put the Shah in, and Savak, and they tortured tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, put in prison. 0.86

02:10:41.000 They used Dr. Mengele-style torture techniques to train the U.S. 0.71

02:10:45.000 in Nazi tactics.

02:10:46.000 That's declassified, by the way.

02:10:47.000 I was just reading these documents the other night.

02:10:49.000 To go over there and have the Savak torture, then they got sick of it and overthrew the Shah, and now everybody's upset that they don't like us. 0.97

02:10:55.000 Then three years ago, they've got a moderate government trying to be pro-West, bending over backwards.

02:11:02.000 That isn't good enough.

02:11:02.000 Now a more radical government has come in, thanks to these policies which were meant from the beginning to radicalize these Muslim nations.

02:11:10.000 Right, and that's exactly what's happening all throughout the Middle East, including Iraq, and it's astounding to see this, and it's hard for me to understand why more folks here aren't able to draw the connection.

02:11:22.000 But you've written and said, and I've also seen this in the foreign press, that most Arabs, most Muslims, most Persians, I mean, it is understood.

02:11:30.000 They are sophisticated geopolitically, they understand it, they've lived through it, they understand that this is all being manipulated.

02:11:37.000 Yes, without a doubt, which is, again, why when we see bombs start to fall on Iran, there will not be, as the deontron strategists say, where people will rise up and overthrow the mullahs, where actually quite the opposite will happen, just like we're seeing in Iraq.

02:11:52.000 And I want to give the facts.

02:11:53.000 In Egypt, In Syria, in Iran, in Iraq, there were huge Christian populations, or still are to some extent, and Jewish populations totally left alone.

02:12:04.000 No one persecuted them. 0.94

02:12:06.000 No one said, we're going to chop your head off if you don't convert.

02:12:09.000 The fact is that it is a huge hoax that this is going on. 0.92

02:12:14.000 The fact is that they recognize Christianity and Judaism as the roots of their religion and honor it and are scared to death of even, you know, Spitting a mile away from a Christian church. 0.85

02:12:27.000 It is a lie!

02:12:29.000 That is true, and it's the same thing in Iraq, where there have been Christians there.

02:12:33.000 Six percent of the population of Iraq is Christian.

02:12:36.000 They've all been able to coexist without a problem for thousands of years.

02:12:40.000 So again, I think it's important for people to draw that connection between the rhetoric being spewed by the Dominion to the Bush administration in regards to what's happening there, and just compare that to the past thousands of years of history.

02:12:52.000 Well, you're a Texan, but as you said in the last hour, when a caller asks, your family's Christian-Lebanese, and I mean, have you guys been persecuted?

02:13:01.000 Are they trying to convert you to Islam?

02:13:04.000 No, of course not. 0.99

02:13:05.000 That's absolutely ridiculous. 0.99

02:13:06.000 They didn't chop your head off when you were in Iraq? 1.00

02:13:07.000 They're all bloodthirsty killers! 1.00

02:13:11.000 Right, exactly. 0.65

02:13:13.000 I mean, I thought they had rock and roll music stations there and playboys sold in stores. 0.53

02:13:18.000 I'm not even saying that's good, you know, with the playboy, but the point is, is it's a fraud.

02:13:21.000 And now, in fact, I've got the documents from the 50s, after the Cold War, they tried to go and fund the Muslim Brotherhood and others to radicalize them.

02:13:30.000 Yeah, that's really not as surprising.

02:13:32.000 Again, it works for them to work with the fringe elements there, where the vast majority of the people in that country, they're just like people here, they want peace, they want security, they want the ability to have a better life.

02:13:43.000 And that's what they had hoped for when the initial invasion was launched, even though they knew the pretenses were false.

02:13:49.000 You know they've really got 18-inch fangs dripping acid and they all just want to eat us. 0.73

02:13:52.000 I mean, have you heard the neocon propaganda? 0.99

02:13:56.000 They want to kill us, they're gonna get us! 1.00

02:13:58.000 They're gonna, gotta kill every one of them! 0.99

02:14:01.000 Well, fear is, as usual, really the main weapon that they have and are using quite effectively, unfortunately. 0.99

02:14:08.000 Let's go to our guest, and he'll be with us for the rest of the hour.

02:14:12.000 Stay with us for a few more segments, Dar.

02:14:13.000 I'm so honored to have John Sharp.

02:14:15.000 John Sharp was a 1993 distinguished graduate of the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, and it goes on and on where he received his degree in honors, English, And it goes on, he served with the U.S.

02:14:25.000 Navy Submarine Officer for seven years culminating in an overseas tour at the U.S.

02:14:29.000 Navy Submarine Headquarters and it goes on and on.

02:14:33.000 He's launched the new IHS Press imprint called Gates of Vienna Books and it focuses on world history dealing with the defense and decline of Western civilization and now he of course has put together beautiful hardbound books Neocon to Neocon again.

02:14:49.000 I know you've been sitting there for four minutes on hold listening to Dar and I talk about the situation.

02:14:54.000 Give us your take on what you've heard us discuss, John.

02:14:57.000 Well, Alex, it's a pleasure.

02:14:58.000 I appreciate you having me on.

02:14:59.000 It's an honor to be on with Dar.

02:15:01.000 We followed his work and continue to follow it.

02:15:04.000 And if you read through both of those volumes, you'll find little bits of wisdom that are attributed to Dar.

02:15:10.000 So we really appreciate, Dar, your work firsthand.

02:15:13.000 It's remarkable to get some truth from on the ground, so to speak.

02:15:17.000 Thanks very much, John.

02:15:18.000 It's mutual.

02:15:19.000 Neocon gets into the whole war, the Iran situation.

02:15:22.000 Give us your take on it.

02:15:24.000 Well, the first book gets back to what you guys talked about in terms of the religious aspect.

02:15:29.000 I mean, there's so much propaganda both in terms of what Islam is all about, but also on the Christian side.

02:15:33.000 I mean, it's been represented by folks like Falwell and Robertson that the Christians themselves are bloodthirsty, and we want another crusade, we want to reshape the Middle East, etc., etc.

02:15:42.000 And the first book was put out to basically refute that, refute that contention that that's all nonsense, that the authentic position is very much In favor of this peaceful approach, the idea that we want to live in peace with other members of the family of nations, and so there's 400 pages on this tradition that frankly goes back not only to the original Christians, but goes back even to the Roman thinkers like Cicero, arguing that if you're going to go to war, you go to war to defend yourself against an actual ongoing armed attack, and that's all.

02:16:11.000 And so I would say that that approach obviously applies no less to Iran and what may be coming, or what will be coming, Just as it does to Iraq. 0.82

02:16:18.000 Well, we're the invaders.

02:16:20.000 I mean, we're drug-kicking and streaming to it, but we're the invaders, the classical aggressors.

02:16:25.000 You're right.

02:16:25.000 And there's no way to get around that.

02:16:26.000 And the fact of the matter is that that fact doesn't change the minute the conflict starts.

02:16:31.000 That's one of the things we've been disappointed in.

02:16:33.000 on behalf of some of the even what they would call paleo-conservatives who, you know, Buchanan, so brand these guys, I normally enjoy reading what they have to say.

02:16:42.000 Pat Buchanan has a feature essay in the first book, but what was disappointing was this line that we heard from certain circles that, well, now that the shooting starts, we all have to just shut up and fall in line in the court.

02:16:52.000 And, of course, if the conflict is fundamentally unjust when it starts, that fact doesn't change.

02:16:58.000 Well, the shooting is never going to stop.

02:16:59.000 Most of it is a hundred-year war.

02:17:01.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:17:02.000 And so we can't afford to shelve this question to right and wrong.

02:17:05.000 And, Dara, I'd be interested in your comment.

02:17:07.000 But our perspective from here is that if it's true, we want to convey to the rest of the world that we are law-abiding and that we're peace-loving.

02:17:15.000 I may say that kind of smirking because, of course, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but how credible is it to launch one aggressive war after another and expect people are going to take us seriously when we talk democracy and the rule of law?

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02:21:52.000 Combat reporter Darja Mall will be with us for another 20 minutes, so this segment into the next, and Mr. Sharp, the rest of the hour...

02:22:03.000 Both men are on the road.

02:22:04.000 We appreciate them taking the time out to join us.

02:22:05.000 I know we've had callers holding for quite a while.

02:22:07.000 Let's try to get a couple calls in, then we'll get back into the new book, Neocon, and the even newer book, Neocon, again, two beautiful books, hardbound books that we're carrying.

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02:22:21.000 Let's go ahead and go to Hassan, see if he's there, there in Canada.

02:22:26.000 You're on the air, sir.

02:22:27.000 What's on your mind?

02:22:30.000 Thank you for... I'm a Muslim, basically, from Pakistan.

02:22:34.000 I was born in Pakistan.

02:22:36.000 And I'm just really, really grateful for, like, the news you bring, just because you were even talking about how... like, just talking about the Muslims in general, and I just wanted to thank you for actually looking at it unbiasedly.

02:22:50.000 We want everybody to live in peace.

02:22:51.000 We don't want to kill you. 1.00

02:22:53.000 We know it's a lie that the majority of Muslims want to kill us. 1.00

02:22:56.000 In international polls, they've done it. 1.00

02:22:59.000 6% are the frothing crazies over there.

02:23:01.000 And here it's about 40% are frothing crazies.

02:23:03.000 And we didn't used to be like that.

02:23:04.000 We're not shameful creatures.

02:23:06.000 The majority of us are good people in this country.

02:23:09.000 DAR, Mr. Sharp, any comments?

02:23:11.000 Well, that's what I found, just like what Mr. Sharpe was talking about before the break, is that, again, despite the atrocities that have been inflicted upon the people of Iraq, most people there are still very clear at differentiating between the American people In the policies of the U.S.

02:23:27.000 government, they're very clear on the fact that most people there are aware that we've had two illegitimate elections here in a row, and that these policies are not a reflection of the will of most people in the U.S.

02:23:39.000 Are they concerned?

02:23:41.000 Do they know that we're falling, that we may go into full-bore dictatorship?

02:23:45.000 Many do, not all.

02:23:47.000 I don't think most are quite aware, just like most people here in the U.S.

02:23:51.000 are not aware of how critical of a situation it is and what is at stake.

02:23:55.000 Let me get John Sharpe's take, and we'll let Son finish up.

02:23:59.000 Mr. Sharpe, your take on that.

02:24:01.000 Well, I think it's nice to hear from his perspective as well.

02:24:06.000 And to go back to what we were saying before, I mean, the bottom line is, you have so many Christians in the U.S.

02:24:11.000 who use Christianity as some indicator of their kind of public approach or their religious approach to things.

02:24:18.000 And the truth we wanted to represent, which I think is very similar to what you guys are talking about, is that the Christian religion is a religion of peace.

02:24:25.000 It certainly admits of self-defense, but that's what it comes down to, is self-defense.

02:24:30.000 And if you look at the facts of both what's pushing us into Iran now and what's pushing us into Iraq, no matter how much credibility or credence you give to some of these assertions and some of the accusations, in no way can they be understood as necessitating a war of defense.

02:24:45.000 If we were attacked, We can defend ourselves.

02:24:47.000 Exclusive of that.

02:24:48.000 9-11!

02:24:49.000 9-11!

02:24:50.000 We got hit!

02:24:52.000 Well, you look at 9-11.

02:24:53.000 It's an inside job.

02:24:54.000 There's no debating it.

02:24:55.000 But even if you believe it was 19 guys in a cave were able to do this, and all of this happened, it wasn't Iraq that attacked us.

02:25:01.000 It wasn't Iran. 0.59

02:25:03.000 Exactly.

02:25:03.000 And we tried to take that perspective on purpose to say, let's assume for everybody out there who believes the official story, that you still can't argue your way from these 19 guys who are, you know, unidentified.

02:25:15.000 Again, we decided it was Ben Laden kind of on a whim. 0.95

02:25:19.000 Mainly coming from our so-called allies.

02:25:21.000 I mean, we love UAE, we love Saad.

02:25:23.000 Yep, exactly.

02:25:24.000 No, you're exactly right.

02:25:26.000 So regardless of what your take is on that story, although we're as skeptical as the next guy on all that stuff.

02:25:32.000 There's no argument justifying a kind of aggressive approach that we've taken.

02:25:36.000 Well, the PNAC documents say we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event.

02:25:40.000 Brzezinski said it, too.

02:25:41.000 We need major terrorist attacks to unify the people behind a war of empire.

02:25:45.000 They say it's an empire.

02:25:46.000 They say it's a pretext.

02:25:48.000 Hussan, finish up, sir.

02:25:50.000 Just a couple quick points.

02:25:52.000 I actually was in the U.S.

02:25:54.000 living there during September 11th, funny enough.

02:25:57.000 I was like 17, I think, and going to first year of university.

02:26:02.000 I mean, I was like, right there in the middle of it, like, it happened.

02:26:05.000 So, I mean, I know exactly what it was like.

02:26:08.000 And even at that time, I even thought they should go into Afghanistan. 1.00

02:26:11.000 Like, I actually, I mean, as a Muslim, I'm thinking that, like, they should.

02:26:15.000 And then, like, this was way before I got into any of this.

02:26:18.000 But, um, my second point was, question was for Mr. Dar.

02:26:24.000 I've been going to university for a while, and, like, I'm not really, like, wasn't never interested in what, anything I was doing.

02:26:31.000 Not at all.

02:26:33.000 So, like, it's got me where I'm just, like, re... And, like, obviously, I can see all these things happening around me, and I do, like... I've traveled quite a bit, so I, you know, I've seen much every... A lot of there is to see.

02:26:47.000 Like, I don't... I'm kind of surprised, like, sitting here right now in Canada, living my, you know, great lifestyle that I live, while all this is going on, and I was just wondering, like, how you exactly went into, like, how you...

02:27:03.000 You're wanting to get involved in the fight against the New World Order?

02:27:10.000 It's a training in class to go into Iran.

02:27:13.000 Oh, you want to ask Dar Jamal how he went there to cover it?

02:27:15.000 Okay, we'll be right back.

02:27:16.000 You want some background on that?

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02:27:19.000 Dar Jamal's our guest.

02:27:20.000 More of your calls coming up.

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02:30:43.000 We're going to move through your calls quickly after we cover some more issues.

02:30:56.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:30:59.000 Barney, Mike, Jim and others, your calls are coming up.

02:31:02.000 Both of you, John Sharp and Dar Jamal, both of you, give us your websites respectively so people can visit them.

02:31:10.000 Go ahead.

02:31:11.000 Oh, thanks.

02:31:12.000 Yeah, mine is DarjaMillerock.com.

02:31:14.000 It's D-A-H-R-J-A-M-A-I-L-I-R-A-Q dot com. 1.00

02:31:20.000 Or, again, just go to InfoWars.com.

02:31:21.000 We've got a big, fat link in the guest section there on the main page.

02:31:24.000 And, John, we're carrying your book, Neocon and Neocon again.

02:31:27.000 They're both amazing.

02:31:28.000 They're incredible.

02:31:28.000 They're easy reads, even though they're voluminous, because it's just chapters, different issues, different facets.

02:31:35.000 But tell us about your website, and then tell us about the books.

02:31:38.000 Folks can pick, you know, articles or chapters that are of interest to them.

02:31:41.000 There's no obligation to read the whole thing cover to cover, although we would, of course, suggest that they ingest and digest every word.

02:31:49.000 The books are broken into two volumes.

02:31:51.000 The first is about 400 and some odd pages featuring somewhere between 20 and 25 contributors.

02:31:56.000 The message of the first was twofold.

02:31:58.000 Number one, we've discussed it a little bit to sort of right the wrong on what's been popularly perceived as a Christian war and as a conservative war.

02:32:06.000 Nothing could be farther from the truth.

02:32:07.000 Of course, Christian principles dictate That it's only legitimate to go to war if you're actually attacked, and as we've said, 9-1-1, notwithstanding, that's not even a credible argument.

02:32:16.000 The second one is this idea that it's a conservative war, that conservatives across the country support the thing, and that's, of course, false.

02:32:22.000 There's a piece called, Is This a Conservative War?, by a professor up in Pennsylvania, Paul Gottfried, who's a long...

02:32:29.000 time and well-known paleo-conservative writer who really shreds that argument.

02:32:34.000 Just like Paul Craig Roberts.

02:32:35.000 Exactly, very much so.

02:32:37.000 And, of course, there's a whole host of folks that have not gotten the press and publicity they deserve.

02:32:40.000 Pat Buchanan's in your first book.

02:32:42.000 He is Joe Sobran, the late Sam Francis.

02:32:44.000 And I really should mention Jude Winniski's interview.

02:32:47.000 We did an interview with Jude before he died back in August of 2005.

02:32:51.000 It covers the first 70 pages of the book.

02:32:52.000 Jude?

02:32:53.000 Jude died?

02:32:54.000 I interviewed him.

02:32:54.000 He did, yep.

02:32:55.000 He passed away I think the 30th or 31st of August last year.

02:32:58.000 It was a real shock to us.

02:32:59.000 Oh my gosh, I interviewed him right before he died.

02:33:01.000 Yep, you should.

02:33:02.000 He may be one of the last ones.

02:33:03.000 We feel like this print interview from him is kind of capturing his last testament because as you know he worked out Iraq for say 15 years.

02:33:10.000 He was one of the only mainstream political figures that I'm aware of Who told the truth about the Iraq going all the way back to the end of the Iran-Iran War. 0.66

02:33:18.000 He was quite prominent from, yeah.

02:33:20.000 He was, yeah.

02:33:21.000 I mean, he's a big-time Reagan administration guy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal in the late 70s, inventor of supply-side economics.

02:33:27.000 He was a really sweet guy, too.

02:33:29.000 I interviewed him twice in the last year.

02:33:31.000 Yes, yes.

02:33:32.000 Very, very good guy.

02:33:33.000 And he was in a conservative establishment, and it was only towards the end that the neoconservatives started taking potshots against him on their websites, which proves to me that he was doing some good.

02:33:44.000 Yeah, I mean that 70 pages there, if somebody wanted to buy the first book and they said, look I really just need to read one thing, that's worth the price of the book itself.

02:33:53.000 You'll have an encyclopedic knowledge of so many things, and then briefly I want to move on to some issues, but tell us about the second book.

02:34:00.000 Well the second book looks at the more explosive or hot topics that for your listeners, Alex, is not going to be.

02:34:05.000 anything shocking or anything that they're unprepared for, but it does look at this intelligence scandal and refutes this notion that, well, it was just an accident.

02:34:12.000 I mean, there's nothing that can be further from the truth, but we do have insiders.

02:34:16.000 I mean, guys, retired CIA folks and a former director of the Middle East desk at the DIA, which is Defense Intelligence Agency, who really give an explosive inside view as to what was happening to push the Intelligence Committee in the direction that the politicians wanted it to go.

02:34:31.000 Again, it refutes this notion that it was just an accident and that, in fact, What little scraps of bad intelligence were out there, were actually intentionally misused and countered by him.

02:34:41.000 He created a special office because he couldn't get the lies he wanted from the CIA.

02:34:44.000 He did, yep, and that office was in the Pentagon, it was in the policy division, and it was run by a guy named Douglas Fyfe.

02:34:50.000 I don't know if you talked about him on your program at all.

02:34:52.000 No, I haven't, excuse me.

02:34:52.000 Okay, sure, we talk about him all the time, sir.

02:34:54.000 Yeah, I mean, these guys are thick as thieves, sadly.

02:34:57.000 Let me go back for a second to Dar Jamal, he's going to leave us here in just a few minutes.

02:35:03.000 That's another key issue.

02:35:04.000 They have premeditatedly lied to us.

02:35:07.000 And I want to get John's take on this too.

02:35:09.000 They premeditatedly lied to us.

02:35:11.000 We get the documents down in the street.

02:35:12.000 I think the White House memo is much more important.

02:35:14.000 They admit that's real.

02:35:15.000 We'll paint up planes fake and try to get them shot down or fly them low to get shot down, blame it on Saddam. 0.81

02:35:21.000 We'll create fake intelligence and claim that we have an informant that saw WMDs. 0.83

02:35:26.000 We'll lie to the people.

02:35:27.000 We'll fix the intelligence around going to war. 0.82

02:35:30.000 And then now after they lie to us over and over and over again on the port deals, on a hundred other issues, involved in all this criminality, and ballooning the size of government, and all the unconservative things they're doing, we're supposed to believe them now again, Darjohn?

02:35:46.000 Well, again, and I think that's a really, really important way to contextualize.

02:35:50.000 Look at what's happened in Samarra.

02:35:52.000 This is just yet another example where we're supposed to believe the rhetoric they're putting out, that this is terrorism, that there's some, like Abu Musab al-Darkawi, or Al-Qaeda, or the usual pretenses that they use.

02:36:04.000 Why should we believe anything that they say now, especially in light of everything that you've just mentioned?

02:36:10.000 It's not that they screwed up on intelligence.

02:36:13.000 It is admitted that they knowingly fabricated it.

02:36:16.000 That violates so many federal laws.

02:36:19.000 John, give us your take.

02:36:20.000 Well, and I think it was nice of Darden to mention the word rhetoric because so much of this is rhetorical.

02:36:24.000 We have a piece in the back of the second book called Name-calling or nemesis and it's an analysis by a retired army colonel of the insurgency resistance in Iraq dar I'd love you to read it and give us your your comments in fact I think you're quoted in there a bunch of times, but this word terrorists conjures up the evil demons that you were referring to A kind of a hyperbolically, Alex, in the last segment.

02:36:46.000 The idea that somebody who fights an occupying army or fights an invading force is a quote-unquote terrorist is fundamentally... Well, they also call them cowards, and to say that some guy, and most people have lost their families, who literally, with an old AK-47, goes up against tanks and Apache helicopters and F-16 and F-18 Joint Strike Fighters, I mean, that is not a coward.

02:37:11.000 No, you're right, but it's very persuasive and I'm afraid it works for most of the American people because they create this mentality like if it's only terrorists that oppose Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam is obviously the good guy, then anybody who dares to oppose what Uncle Sam is up to is ipso facto.

02:37:29.000 You name it, and it really shuts people's brain off because what it means is they lose this grasp of right versus wrong.

02:37:36.000 Here's a very transparent example.

02:37:36.000 Well, you're right.

02:37:38.000 They start calling it Total Information Awareness Network.

02:37:41.000 They announced three years ago everything you do, every credit card purchase, everything you do, New York Times, is going to be watched.

02:37:46.000 It's for your own good. 0.97

02:37:47.000 Shut up and take it. 0.98

02:37:48.000 Then they call it the Terrorist Information Network. 0.99

02:37:52.000 Absolutely.

02:37:53.000 It's very subtle.

02:37:54.000 With the NSA spying, they call it the Terrorist Surveillance Network.

02:37:54.000 They're very effective.

02:37:58.000 See, well, you're not for not surveilling the terrorists, are you?

02:38:02.000 See, they're manipulating wordsmithing.

02:38:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:38:06.000 It's very subtle.

02:38:07.000 They're very effective.

02:38:07.000 And, Alex, if you go to one of the things I mentioned on our website, or didn't get a chance to mention, it's neocond.info, N-E-O-C-O-N-N-E-D.info.

02:38:15.000 Obviously, folks can buy the books through you, but we try to update the news links very frequently.

02:38:19.000 Anything that hits the headlines that's relevant to the book.

02:38:21.000 Well, I think it's fine if they go to your website.

02:38:23.000 Either way.

02:38:24.000 I mean, we're happy to certainly share the wealth.

02:38:26.000 But I wanted to mention, you refer to this Total Information Awareness, the thing that old Admiral Poindexter started a few years ago.

02:38:33.000 Until he got all this heat on them.

02:38:36.000 Well, it's just come out recently.

02:38:37.000 This was in National Journal, and folks ought to go to the National Journal website and look for it.

02:38:41.000 It's still operating.

02:38:42.000 Exactly.

02:38:42.000 It survived, and all they did was change the names.

02:38:45.000 I mean, they called it Gopher Hunt or something, you know, ridiculous, just in order to disguise it and perpetuate it.

02:38:50.000 And they privatized it.

02:38:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:38:52.000 And so it's the same old story.

02:38:54.000 Again, this rhetoric, I think, really has shut the brains off of the American people, and that's why I'm hoping in our books and programs like yours, we can start getting people to think critically, because I really think that's the problem anymore.

02:39:05.000 People swallow what they hear from Fox News and from the White House press releases, and they just fail to...

02:39:12.000 No, John, I totally agree with you.

02:39:16.000 We're going to let Dar go in here in just a moment, but let's try to jam two calls in quickly for you guys.

02:39:21.000 Barney in Virginia, go ahead.

02:39:23.000 You're on the air than Mike.

02:39:24.000 Barney, go ahead.

02:39:26.000 Hi, folks.

02:39:27.000 Your phone's terrible, so go ahead and make your point quickly.

02:39:30.000 Can you hear me now?

02:39:30.000 Go ahead.

02:39:31.000 All right, folks.

02:39:33.000 My name is Barney Van Humason.

02:39:39.000 I'm a little stage fright here.

02:39:40.000 I'm going to have to put you on hold, sir.

02:39:42.000 Your phone's too bad.

02:39:43.000 Maybe at the end, when we let our guest go, I'll be able to get you on.

02:39:45.000 But I'm sorry, it's just not working.

02:39:47.000 Mike in Pennsylvania.

02:39:49.000 Welcome.

02:39:49.000 Mike, you're on the air.

02:39:55.000 Yeah, we've had a lot of problems with the phones today.

02:39:57.000 Nothing normally happens.

02:39:58.000 I think having so many people on the line, too gassed, and the callers is causing... We may jam a few in at the end if we're able to, if folks can get themselves together and be on the line.

02:40:08.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:40:08.000 Dar, in closing, because I'm going to let you go, I appreciate all your time.

02:40:14.000 Any other key points you were unable to mention?

02:40:16.000 Anything else on the Iran situation?

02:40:19.000 Well, I just think it's really imperative for people to pay very close attention to what's going to happen there and that Iran's not going to be the end either. 0.57

02:40:26.000 And then until people really realize this and are willing to start standing up and taking some action to change the course of what's happening here, nothing will change.

02:40:35.000 And I asked you earlier, and you never had a chance to answer, and then I want to pose this question to John.

02:40:40.000 Where do you think it's all going?

02:40:41.000 This whole thing, what do you think is going to happen to this globalist empire?

02:40:45.000 What are they going to have to do to get this through on us?

02:40:47.000 I think they're going to stage big terror attacks here in America, but I want to get your take on it.

02:40:52.000 Well, without a doubt, the stage is set for something like that to occur, and I think that is going to be what they will have to do to simply augment the numbers of the military.

02:41:02.000 They're going to need to continue on with this agenda.

02:41:06.000 Do you think they're going to fail?

02:41:07.000 I mean, look into your crystal ball.

02:41:09.000 You've been there for eight months inside the war, inside Fallujah, during the siege.

02:41:12.000 Do you think they're going to fail?

02:41:13.000 What's going to happen?

02:41:14.000 Well, as far as Iraq goes, the Iraq occupation failed probably less than six months into it.

02:41:19.000 So that is a total dismal failure, and really the only solution will be a tail between the legs thing, evacuation similar to what we saw in Vietnam. 0.97

02:41:28.000 But the neocons are busy wanting to move on to the next theater.

02:41:31.000 That's true, but I think, as with all empires, they've already grossly overstretched themselves.

02:41:37.000 And that's because their imperial leaders are always little, soft, delusional individuals.

02:41:41.000 Right, who have no real experience with military whatsoever.

02:41:45.000 Alright, Dar, I really appreciate you joining us.

02:41:48.000 Godspeed.

02:41:48.000 We hope to talk to you in the near future.

02:41:49.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:41:51.000 John, would you like to answer that question?

02:41:53.000 Give us your take?

02:41:54.000 Yeah, well, you know, I hate to predict because I try to be an optimist thinking that things will turn out well, and I'm always wrong, and then I say to myself, well, I told you so.

02:42:01.000 So I don't know, Alex, what things are going to bring, but I can tell you that if this business that Dar brought up about Samara, I think that's a classic example.

02:42:10.000 We have a situation that I think, based on all the research that's contained in Volume 2, is something everyone should be very skeptical about.

02:42:17.000 The idea that the Sunnis are at the Shiites' throat, the Shiites are at the Sunnis' throat, strikes me as very, very similar to your comments earlier about the Christians and Muslims. 0.59

02:42:25.000 One thing that I think Dar's written about someone, and we go into in the second book, is failing an understanding of what Ba'athism was, and this ideology of Ba'athism under Saddam Hussein, You really can't understand modern Iraq.

02:42:38.000 Baptism was ascendant basically since the very late 60's.

02:42:43.000 So what you have really is 30 years or 35 years almost worth of an ideology in Iraq that puts Iraq nationalism first. 0.73

02:42:52.000 Everybody in Iraq Learned to imagine that they were Iraqis first, and after that they were Sunnis, or Shiites, or Turks, or Christians, or what have you. 0.65

02:42:59.000 And that almost completely ended sectarian warfare.

02:43:02.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:43:03.000 And one of the things that's quoted in this article interview with Jude Winonski is an email from a Shiite that he was in touch with in London, a very well-respected and reasonable Shiite doctor who said, look, don't buy into this rhetoric about the Shiites and the Sunnis at each other's throats, because it's just not true.

02:43:18.000 There's some fringe, just like there's always fanatics, but it's very same The way to conceive of it, I imagine, is the way we conceive of it here in the U.S.

02:43:26.000 We're all Americans.

02:43:26.000 We have different backgrounds, different religions, etc.

02:43:29.000 But if we're invaded, we all pick up the shovel.

02:43:31.000 John, if you go back to Iran and the staged overthrow of Mosaddegh, the staged terror attacks, the CIA documents, I don't know if you've read those, say we can't have any nationalist, even though he was pro-America, anti-communist, And in secular, they said, we cannot have any of them being free, any of them being sovereign.

02:43:51.000 So that's why Iraq was set up and brought down, because they were pro-Christian, they were leaving Israel alone, Jews were living there, people were getting along, women were graduating from college more than men, they were about to become first world. 0.94

02:44:02.000 Again, they had rock and roll radio stations, they were mainstream.

02:44:05.000 That can't be allowed.

02:44:06.000 Now the globalists are very happy.

02:44:07.000 It's all in a big quagmire, and the Muslim extremists are taking control, and so now there gets to be a big I totally agree. 1.00

02:44:15.000 I've never borne out in the facts for people who want more support for what you're saying.

02:44:21.000 Volume 1 has a lengthy essay on the sanctions and even on Gulf War I. At the very beginning of the book it talks about how from the outset there was this desire to bring Iraq down precisely because of those strengths that you mentioned.

02:44:33.000 In the second book there's an explosive quote that's recorded by an Italian journalist.

02:44:37.000 The guy's name is Maurizio Blondet.

02:44:41.000 Who called up Edward Luttwak, the famous neocon strategist at CSIS, called him up during the first Gulf War, right before it started, and said, look, we in Europe, I mean, we're kind of a peace-loving people, we really don't even think it's likely that the U.S.

02:44:54.000 is going to go into Iraq just over Kuwait.

02:44:56.000 Saddam has already agreed to pull out, he's already agreed to negotiate some acceptable terms, we just don't think the U.S.

02:45:02.000 is going to go through with it.

02:45:03.000 And Luttwak's comment back to him that's quoted in this, I think it's Chapter 3 of the book, is, we are in fact going to bomb Iraq back to the Stone Age.

02:45:11.000 And what Look Back says is exactly what you just said.

02:45:14.000 Now that the Iran-Iraq war is over, all of Saddam's engineers and his technical people aren't needed in the army.

02:45:19.000 They're going to get back to the social work and the rebuilding of infrastructure and whatnot.

02:45:24.000 They will become the dominant power in the Middle East, and we cannot permit that to happen. 1.00

02:45:28.000 This is the kind of agenda and the mindset that's behind what's happening.

02:45:31.000 And then you have these people with arrested development, these full grown adults who hold down businesses and make money and you think they're smart, and they're just like, I want to nuke them!

02:45:41.000 And you're like, well do you know the history? 0.99

02:45:42.000 No, I don't know nothing, but I want to kill them! 0.97

02:45:45.000 Yeah, don't confuse me with the facts. 0.99

02:45:47.000 That's the thing that I think is most depressing to me is to talk to so many folks like this who you have to assume I suppose are well intentioned, but They just absolutely refuse to open their minds.

02:45:56.000 That's what these books... I mean, they're big enough.

02:45:58.000 If people won't read them, I'd like to bash some people over the head with them, just to get them to wake up and think and think through these arguments and these things that they're told, because on the face of them, they just don't make any sense.

02:46:07.000 Well, this type of criminality being engaged in by these criminals that have seized our country, it's shameful, and I will not be part of it.

02:46:13.000 I will expose it.

02:46:14.000 I don't care what the consequences are.

02:46:16.000 Let's take a call from Ron in New York.

02:46:18.000 Ron, are you there?

02:46:20.000 Hello, gentlemen.

02:46:21.000 Hello, Ron.

02:46:22.000 Okay, a few things I want to say.

02:46:24.000 Yes, as far as the DARPA program, that's correct.

02:46:27.000 It's been quietly resurrected under another name.

02:46:30.000 So it never really went away and Congress has full knowledge of it and doesn't care and doesn't do nothing like they don't do nothing about many other things.

02:46:36.000 Secondly, with reference to the Patriot Act and its warrantless search provisions for emails and computer data, well, it's now come out, though Alex has been saying this for quite a time, on the front page of today's New York Sun.

02:46:49.000 That a case which essentially has been kept sealed, or I should say, kept in confidentiality until now, dating back to 2003, you have two federal judges in the state of Florida who had ruled that in fact these warrantless searches apply to garden variety crimes.

02:47:07.000 And they've in fact used them in garden variety crimes.

02:47:12.000 In 1996, they paid $9 billion to have the NSA have officers in every major hub.

02:47:17.000 They run them, and now it's admitted on MSNBC and on the Russert program, on CNBC.

02:47:23.000 They just go, yeah, we're listening to everything.

02:47:25.000 That's correct, and they've been denying that.

02:47:29.000 They've been lying about that, both the political power structure... But it was all in the trade publications!

02:47:34.000 Both the power structure in the media, the establishment media, the neocon-established media.

02:47:39.000 They've been lying to us for years now about this, and the proof is right there.

02:47:43.000 And by the way, The Sun is no liberal newspaper, should anyone know.

02:47:46.000 I didn't see that.

02:47:47.000 Do me a favor, email us at tipsandinfowars.com.

02:47:49.000 What's the headline?

02:47:50.000 The headline is, Patriot Act email searches apply to non-terrorist judges say.

02:47:55.000 Patriot Act.

02:47:57.000 Email searches apply to non-terrorists, judges say.

02:48:03.000 Ah, we'll get that posted.

02:48:05.000 The audacity, if you read this article, the audacity of one of the judges that say, well there's no language there that really Congress empowered them to do this, however I'm going to rule that it's constitutional for them to do this.

02:48:17.000 But see, section 802, all crime is terrorism.

02:48:21.000 The country as an institution is in collapse.

02:48:24.000 Sir, it is, it has collapsed.

02:48:26.000 I mean, people, they're openly, Bush is announcing he's a dictator.

02:48:28.000 The people, I think, have gone somewhat insane to go along with this.

02:48:32.000 It is detrimental to them.

02:48:33.000 Hey, Ron, stay there.

02:48:34.000 I want to get that headline better during the break from you.

02:48:36.000 I want to come back and let our guests wrap things up and comment on the domestic front.

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02:51:51.000 I'm not going to take any more calls.

02:51:52.000 I'm sorry to the callers.

02:51:53.000 It's just that we've had a lot of guests on, a lot of news today, but we'll take a lot of calls tomorrow and throughout the week, so be sure and join us.

02:51:59.000 I want to thank all our stations, the affiliates out there, the sponsors, the listeners.

02:52:03.000 God, of course, number one.

02:52:05.000 And the folks that make the broadcast possible up at the Genesis Communications Network in Minnesota, I come to you from Austin, Texas.

02:52:11.000 John Sharpe, I've got to get you back on in the near future, but I wanted to get your take, and I hope people will go to Infowars.com and get Neocon and Neocon again, or go to your website and get it.

02:52:19.000 We have a link to it up on Infowars.

02:52:21.000 I don't care.

02:52:21.000 Just get the books, folks.

02:52:22.000 But, John, because these are beautiful books, and the information is even better than the hardcover.

02:52:27.000 And, you know, the packaging, but it just looks great.

02:52:30.000 That's good for people that aren't informed to give them a copy, because they tend to read stuff that looks good as well.

02:52:34.000 They tend to judge books by their cover.

02:52:36.000 But, where do you see it all going?

02:52:39.000 I mean, listen, I'm not joking when I say, domestically, I videotaped Marines many years ago trying to take our guns and put us in camps.

02:52:46.000 And I was the cook saying it 12 years ago.

02:52:48.000 Now it's mainstream news.

02:52:49.000 I mean, we're entering hell itself.

02:52:51.000 Yeah, it's very disturbing.

02:52:53.000 You're right.

02:52:53.000 And of course, it's this inability of people to think themselves out of this box they've been put in.

02:52:58.000 I think this makes us all, you know, we're all good sheep.

02:53:00.000 We all go along with the process precisely because we've shut our brains off.

02:53:04.000 We take stuff out of Fox News or out of a White House press release and we just shrug and say, oh, of course, they're telling us the truth.

02:53:09.000 Well, you're a Naval Academy graduate, you were on the nuclear submarines, you call yourself a conservative.

02:53:15.000 I mean, you're going public, why did you go public?

02:53:18.000 Well, I mean, I just got fed up, I'm sure just like you, Alex.

02:53:21.000 I mean, there comes a point when you see the leaders of your country doing things ostensibly in your name.

02:53:26.000 I mean, I know a lot of people have said, hey, Americans, you know, you're a quote-unquote democracy, why don't the people Take charge of the situation that's not happening.

02:53:34.000 You know all your listeners know why because of what you explain on your program But I think you know it's high time that people just get out there like this guy who called You know the young man who grew up in Pakistan from Canada if all the young folks out there Would get in touch with you get in touch with us get in touch with anybody they possibly can to put this righteous anger this legitimate outrage to use yeah And so many people picture themselves as an Arnold Schwarzenegger type hero.

02:53:59.000 They go, I can't do that.

02:54:00.000 I can't save the world by myself.

02:54:01.000 That's not what real heroes do.

02:54:03.000 Real heroes raise good children.

02:54:04.000 Real heroes work hard and are moral.

02:54:07.000 Real heroes don't cut corners.

02:54:08.000 Real heroes stand up for what's right against peer pressure.

02:54:11.000 Heroes do little things every day.

02:54:13.000 Yes, and they work together, most importantly.

02:54:15.000 The real heroes, I think, don't have this one-man-against-the-world mentality, but they sign on the dotted line and join up with a much larger cause.

02:54:23.000 I mean, certainly this thing is bigger than your program.

02:54:25.000 It's much bigger than these books.

02:54:26.000 I mean, these books we created as a resource to give people the intellectual firepower That they need to understand everything about what's happening in Iraq now and where we're headed.

02:54:35.000 Give us your website again.

02:54:36.000 It's neocond.info.

02:54:37.000 N-E-O-C-O-N-N-E-D. 1.00

02:54:40.000 Neocond.info.

02:54:42.000 Now let's let Ron finish up in New York.

02:54:44.000 Ron's called over here as many times, given me a lot of good info.

02:54:46.000 I did go pull up the Sun article.

02:54:48.000 It's going up on Infowars.com right now.

02:54:50.000 Patriot Act email.

02:54:51.000 Searches may apply to non-terrorists, two federal judges say.

02:54:55.000 Ron, you're absolutely on target.

02:54:57.000 You're, of course, a retired police detective yourself.

02:54:59.000 As a retired police officer, what is it like to see this happen to your country?

02:55:04.000 When I was an officer, there still was something that we could coherently call a country based on our social and historical traditions.

02:55:10.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

02:55:12.000 I believe, and I'm going to say this, that the United States is in a process of rapid collapse as a democratic institution, and that a large part of its people, or most of its people, are suffering from some form of self-denial to the point that it's insanity.

02:55:28.000 I think a lot of Americans have literally gone insane.

02:55:32.000 It's just like the Nazis. 0.93

02:55:33.000 Ron, I thank you for your call.

02:55:34.000 Good to hear from you.

02:55:35.000 We haven't heard from him in months.

02:55:37.000 It's you, the listeners, that give us all the key info.

02:55:39.000 You're our eyes and ears.

02:55:40.000 We wouldn't even know about this Big Sun article.

02:55:42.000 I've got 30 seconds left.

02:55:44.000 John, take us out of here.

02:55:45.000 You're our tail gunner.

02:55:46.000 Well, let's use these books as the intellectual firepower we need, both as a roadmap for the way ahead and for understanding why we're doing what we're doing.

02:55:54.000 And most importantly, use them to get the debate back on to right versus wrong.

02:55:58.000 That's the most important thing.

02:56:00.000 And without that, we're lost.

02:56:03.000 Sir, thank you for joining us.

02:56:04.000 Godspeed.

02:56:05.000 We'll talk to you soon.

02:56:06.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:56:06.000 Same to you.

02:56:07.000 Hope to do so.

02:56:07.000 Bye-bye.

02:56:08.000 You bet.

02:56:09.000 Folks, I'm gritting my teeth.

02:56:10.000 I have the hair on the back of my neck stands up.

02:56:12.000 I got white knuckles.

02:56:13.000 I know it's real.

02:56:14.000 Do you know it's real?

02:56:15.000 This isn't a joke.

02:56:16.000 I got chills right now.

02:56:17.000 This isn't a game.

02:56:18.000 This is the battle for the Republic against the beast Antichrist world system!

02:56:22.000 We shall prevail!

Alex Jones Show - February 28, 2006

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