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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, my friends. my friends.

00:00:44.000 Thank you so much for joining us on this live Tuesday edition, the fourth day of April.

00:00:50.000 2006 and coming up in the next hour we'll have professor, theologian David Ray Griffin, author of two best-selling books on September 11th and one of the most effective people out there exposing the government inside job joining us in the next hour.

00:01:10.000 We will, of course, be able to take phone calls today.

00:01:13.000 I'll be doing that from my studios here in Austin, Texas.

00:01:17.000 So later, I will give you that toll-free number, and you'll be able to call in to the broadcast.

00:01:24.000 The websites are InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, and now JonesReport.com.

00:01:34.000 I've had Jones Report for about, what, five years, but we updated it about once a year.

00:01:38.000 It was just kind of a static site floating around out there in the asteroid belt of the blogosphere.

00:01:45.000 But now it's being updated daily, sometimes multiple times daily.

00:01:49.000 It's a little different than the other sites.

00:01:50.000 It has a lot of the same headlines and news and information.

00:01:53.000 But it also has some of its new archives on 9-11.

00:01:57.000 It's going to be a big 9-11 site will be its main function. 0.99

00:02:00.000 Also archives on depleted uranium, archives on sodium and stannous fluoride, archives on mercury and lead, archives on some of the things that are in our environment that are a serious problem.

00:02:13.000 So I'm very proud of the job that Aaron Dykes, one of our new team members here in the last few months, is doing on that and other projects.

00:02:22.000 So be sure and tell everybody about JonesReport.com.

00:02:26.000 We're putting a lot of work into it, and it's a very simple site, a quick download site, no bells and whistles.

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00:02:45.000 It also serves as a mirror of the top stories of the other sites.

00:02:49.000 We do this so we have more servers, more redundancy, more cruisers, more ships on the high seas in the information battle, engaging the enemy and crushing them on every front.

00:03:02.000 Smashing them as we march towards the empire to bring down the New World Order and restore our constitutional republic.

00:03:10.000 We are engaging the enemies of the Republic at point-blank range.

00:03:15.000 We will continue to engage the enemies of the Republic and all free humans on this planet every single day dedicated to the fight.

00:03:25.000 And I lead by example here.

00:03:26.000 I was here until 1 a.m.

00:03:28.000 last night and I will be here tonight at 1 a.m.

00:03:30.000 and I will be here the next night at 1 a.m.

00:03:32.000 and I will be here the next night because we're making a new film.

00:03:35.000 We're doing a lot of other things.

00:03:37.000 I'm very, very excited about it.

00:03:38.000 Masses of news in this first hour.

00:03:41.000 And yes, we will take some of your calls trying out this new system.

00:03:47.000 And we are working that out right now with the network.

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00:04:16.000 I've got my 1-800 number wired right in here to my laptop computer.

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00:04:37.000 So, 888-234-4564, 888-234-4564, because I will not be stopped if I can help it.

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00:08:19.000 Alright, I'm going to get into some of these other headlines later in the hour.

00:08:23.000 UK Big Brother has eye on ID card Refuseniks. 1.00

00:08:27.000 Eliminates opportunity for stay of execution.

00:08:30.000 And if you don't take their national ID card that's been voted down, what, eight times now, but Blair is going to use the Parliament Act to force the House of Lords to acquiesce to the demands.

00:08:42.000 Eighty-plus percent of Britons in polls are against the national ID card.

00:08:46.000 The illegal aliens that have flooded the country, as they've flooded all Western governments, part of the globalist crime family program to bring down sovereign nations, They don't have to carry the cards, and if you don't carry it, you are not allowed to leave your house. 1.00

00:08:59.000 This is mainstream news.

00:09:00.000 You will then be arrested.

00:09:01.000 You will then be deported to some unnamed country, even if you are a citizen of the United Kingdom.

00:09:07.000 Oh, Britannia!

00:09:10.000 And the same thing is going to happen here in the United States.

00:09:12.000 They passed the Real ID, National ID Card Act, last year, but over the next two years, All states under federal law must acquiesce and implement the National ID Card Thumb Scan, Face Scan, Smart Chip, and Swipe system on all cards under federal regulations.

00:09:33.000 Now, several states are saying that they're going to pass laws.

00:09:37.000 Places like West Virginia is moving to block it.

00:09:40.000 Areas like Vermont, New Hampshire are moving to block it.

00:09:43.000 A lot of exciting things happening because these are totally unconstitutional federal laws.

00:09:48.000 And this will be used as your new national ID card for the new national sales tax being pushed by phony conservatives who are not conservative at all.

00:09:55.000 And it will bring federal control into every search engine, every terminal, every shopping card.

00:10:00.000 Every cash register, every lawn man that comes and mows your yard, every lemonade stand, even if you pay cash, by law you've got to swipe the card to make sure you're paying your new national sales tax when they try to ram that through.

00:10:17.000 And of course, if you're against a whole new layer of taxation, you're an evil liberal.

00:10:21.000 And they're not going to get rid of the IRS, they're going to keep that as well.

00:10:24.000 So we'll get into that.

00:10:26.000 More on the Scientist Cheer Holocaust Wish. 0.91

00:10:29.000 Texas Academy honors a professor who once 90% of the human race exterminated.

00:10:34.000 And I want to get more into this report.

00:10:38.000 We covered it a lot yesterday, but we didn't spend enough time on it.

00:10:41.000 It is of the utmost importance. 0.99

00:10:44.000 And it ties in with Mr. Gutierrez, Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor at UT, that says we've got to kill all the whites. 0.99

00:10:54.000 And he was the head of Hispanic Studies at UT and kind of got broken down a few years ago because of all his speeches saying, kill everybody. 0.99

00:11:02.000 But he's back at it again. 0.99

00:11:03.000 In fact, we played clips here before when I've done a TV show on it during Mexican Independence last year because some of his followers were leading some of the marches here locally and had their t-shirts on saying, all whites above the age of 16, all white males must be killed. 0.96

00:11:20.000 And then I've been rebuked for criticizing it, for saying that I don't want to be killed. 0.56

00:11:24.000 And there's a lot of denial about this, just like there's denial, just like there's massive denial concerning what's going on with Dr. Pionka, Professor, Doctor, the prestigious Pionka, who says that 90% of us need to die and the dying needs to start now.

00:11:47.000 Of course, Mr. Pianka is now backpedaling.

00:11:51.000 We have a local newscast where he's backpedaling.

00:11:53.000 We're also going to link to an entire interview they did.

00:11:55.000 They didn't just, uh...

00:11:57.000 We'll do a newscast.

00:11:58.000 They have a large interview they did with him that we'll be posting on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com later today.

00:12:05.000 We'll also be playing some of that.

00:12:07.000 Of course, Professor David Ray Griffin, a normal person on an insane asylum ward, will be joining us, unlike these other professors, and he'll be joining us to talk about Inside Job on 9-11, coming up in the next hour.

00:12:23.000 But I tell you what, before I get into all this news, let me just first off get into Jose Gutierrez.

00:12:31.000 Understand that he is indicative.

00:12:33.000 He is the norm.

00:12:37.000 He is the benchmark.

00:12:39.000 He's up at UT Dallas.

00:12:42.000 Pianka is at UT Austin, the main mothership here in Austin, Texas.

00:12:49.000 And I became aware of Mecha La Raza and others.

00:12:52.000 Mecha stands for the Aztec Kingdom of the Southwest and translated into Spanish.

00:12:59.000 And then of course, when you look at La Raza, that means the race. 0.96

00:13:06.000 And that was the chant here in Austin and LA and Chicago and Phoenix and all across the nation was Viva La Raza, the race. 0.95

00:13:14.000 And when you read these groups' universal literature, they say, for our race, everything.

00:13:18.000 For those outside the race, nothing. 0.99

00:13:20.000 That is a mecha-motto.

00:13:23.000 But they're all very similar.

00:13:24.000 When they get caught red-handed, they say, no, we mean the human race.

00:13:28.000 But you read their founding documents, and what they're currently actually saying in their publications, it is the Chicano-Aztlan race, or the Mesoamerican race.

00:13:41.000 I guess a mixture of European conqueror settlers, predominantly the Spanish and Portuguese, and later the French and the Germans, big influence in Mexico, and of course in Latin America in general.

00:13:56.000 And so we're just going to report what they actually say here.

00:14:00.000 Saturday night I called into a national radio show, and heard one of these amnesty asylum groups that runs a big operation out of Chicago, And the guest just said, no, it's not true.

00:14:13.000 She's never heard of anyone with a Mexican flag.

00:14:16.000 They only have American flags at these demonstrations.

00:14:19.000 And they only love America.

00:14:20.000 And they do not believe this is Mexico. 0.99

00:14:22.000 And I'm just a big fat liar. 0.98

00:14:24.000 I'm making it all up. 0.97

00:14:25.000 And then a caller from San Antonio called in to back her up and said, yes, Alex Jones is just a sensationalist.

00:14:31.000 He makes all of this up.

00:14:33.000 And the caller said, I've never heard of such a thing.

00:14:36.000 Well, maybe you've been hiding under a rock, but somehow I doubt that. 0.99

00:14:42.000 Now let me make it clear, and every time I say this, these very people go, oh shut up, Gringo, you're a racist, that's what you all say. 0.97

00:14:48.000 But no, it's not true.

00:14:50.000 Many of my friends, in fact one of my best friends, is Hispanic, and they're Americans, just as American or more so than I am, very patriotic people, and they certainly don't want to live in Mexico, and they certainly don't believe Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, California, Nevada, Washington, and Oregon, and parts of Idaho and Wyoming.

00:15:15.000 That's now what Aslan is claiming.

00:15:17.000 A few years ago, it was half that.

00:15:20.000 They certainly don't like that idea, and they certainly don't like the fact that America is imploding with all this cheap third-world labor. 1.00

00:15:29.000 Our government loves it.

00:15:31.000 They want blanket amnesty.

00:15:32.000 They love all these policies.

00:15:33.000 So I don't want to hear that you're downtrodden and you're fighting against the man The man is behind this.

00:15:41.000 But, I mean, where to start?

00:15:47.000 I'm looking for my Jose Gutierrez article here.

00:15:49.000 DV Kid did a report on this, and again, we reported on this last year.

00:15:52.000 We have this guy on tape saying this, but a Mexican university professor calls for murder of all whites.

00:15:59.000 And the tape I have of him says that, but he also says we need to implement the plan of San Diego.

00:16:04.000 Which was a German funded plan that was executed.

00:16:08.000 And there was Charlie Manson style murders all over South Texas in a matter of days.

00:16:13.000 The death toll was staggering.

00:16:15.000 And that actually created some of the first enmity between South Texas Hispanics, who saw themselves as Mexicans, and the white population here.

00:16:26.000 Before that, the Czechoslovakian, the Polish, and the German, and the British, and the Scottish and Irish communities, people seemed to back then be in their own communities.

00:16:38.000 There was more intermarrying and more living together and more getting along.

00:16:42.000 Like you wouldn't have Germans in a Czech town, but you'd have Mexicans there. 0.99

00:16:46.000 Or Tejanos, Texans.

00:16:48.000 Mexican Texans.

00:16:49.000 And that's just a historical Texas fact.

00:16:51.000 Go take Texas history.

00:16:53.000 Go look at these towns and witness it for yourselves.

00:16:56.000 You've got all of these German-looking big You know, big, olive-skinned, dark-haired people whose, you know, grandma was Mrs. Gonzales, who married Mr. Schmidt.

00:17:09.000 But no, that's all over now.

00:17:12.000 Now we have the l'Reconquista upon us.

00:17:18.000 And it's really disgusting and a serious problem. 0.99

00:17:22.000 Mexican University professor calls for murder of all whites. 1.00

00:17:26.000 We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean is by that if the worst comes to worst, we've got to kill him. 1.00

00:17:33.000 The words above were spoken by Jose Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington. 0.99

00:17:38.000 I just say Dallas, same thing, Metroplex.

00:17:41.000 And founder of La Raza Unida political party, or the race. 1.00

00:17:45.000 His full comment was, we have an aging white America, they are dying, we have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by this is if worst comes to worst, we've got to kill him. 1.00

00:17:55.000 And people don't know the actual numbers. 0.99

00:17:56.000 They're looking at five-year-old numbers, you know, that the majority in the below 20 are Hispanic.

00:18:00.000 No, no, no.

00:18:01.000 The majority, period, is now Hispanic.

00:18:03.000 In a matter of five years, and again, if they wanted to be American, if they weren't flooding in from Latin America, running around screaming with Mexican flags, it wouldn't be a problem. 0.76

00:18:11.000 But they're here saying, we're taking America down.

00:18:15.000 In a column dated March 25th, 06, by Ernesto Sintaguros, titled La Gran Marcha, surpasses all expectations, he wrote, what does the immense success of La Grande Marche mean to Mexicanos and Latinos?

00:18:32.000 It simply means that we now have the numbers, the political will, and the simple means that we now have the numbers, political will, and the organizational skills to direct our own destinies and not be subservient to the white and Jewish power structure. 0.93

00:18:47.000 Really, it's the white and Jewish power structure, and I can prove that, I have, that funds you. 0.97

00:18:53.000 I mean, it's a big Jewish mogul that owns the majority of the TV stations in the United States that are Spanish speaking.

00:19:00.000 We've got World Net Daily and AP articles about it.

00:19:03.000 And he put up 670 plus signs saying California is now Mexico.

00:19:08.000 Remember crossing out L.A., California and putting Mexico on it? 0.84

00:19:13.000 I mean, this is what's happening.

00:19:14.000 What are you talking about?

00:19:17.000 It means that we can now undertake bigger and more significant mass actions to achieve total political and economic liberation, like that being proposed by Jose Gutierrez, President of the Latino USA.

00:19:29.000 Jose Gutierrez is proposing that the coalition that organized La Grande March meet in Arizona or Texas on April 8th to organize a mass boycott against the economy of the U.S.

00:19:40.000 to take place on May 5th or 19th.

00:19:43.000 And let me tell you, I can go to this meeting with an interpreter, I can record it all, or a lot of it will be in English, and it'll be openly. 0.98

00:19:49.000 As soon as we got the numbers, we're gonna kill you. 0.99

00:19:52.000 And if I'm against being murdered, I'm bad. 0.99

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00:24:20.000 In fact they even admit that they served out American flags, this is mainstream news, at the fronts of the rallies.

00:24:28.000 And then our national complicit media would just focus on those.

00:24:32.000 Meanwhile, 90 plus percent were foreign flags.

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00:24:43.000 Reconquista?

00:24:44.000 That's made up.

00:24:46.000 No one's ever heard of that.

00:24:48.000 What do you mean we say the Southwest belongs to Mexico?

00:24:54.000 And then, folks, you go to one of these rallies, I mean, there'll be 10,000 people there, and that's all that's being discussed.

00:25:01.000 I mean, that is universal.

00:25:05.000 And so it's very sneaky.

00:25:06.000 I mean, imagine, it's a perfect takeover plan.

00:25:08.000 That's what the globalists are using, these foreigners, is that the average American doesn't speak the language, doesn't know what's going on. 0.99

00:25:15.000 Again, my wife does, because she lived, I don't know, five, six years in Spain.

00:25:19.000 Her dad was in the agriculture department, in the diplomatic corps, so she grew up and knows Spanish fluently, and we were driving through Mejia to go visit family a few months ago, and she's like, look at that grocery store!

00:25:31.000 It says Mexico Land, you know, the new land, and look at that sign that says, you know, we're taking over!

00:25:37.000 And she said, it's everywhere!

00:25:39.000 It says Revolution right there!

00:25:40.000 It says Revolution right there!

00:25:42.000 They've got a Mexican radio station here in Austin called the Invader. 0.95

00:25:47.000 They have another one in San Antonio called The Usurper.

00:25:50.000 There's another radio station called The Bandit.

00:25:54.000 And they've got them called Raza.

00:25:57.000 And on and on and on.

00:25:59.000 I mean, you're driving around seeing the bumper stickers everywhere.

00:26:03.000 You hear the people when you're in a restaurant and they don't know that you've got people with you that speak Spanish.

00:26:07.000 Take my cousin, Buckley Hammond.

00:26:09.000 He lives in Chicago now, but he lived in Austin the last five, six years.

00:26:13.000 Good friend of mine.

00:26:14.000 He even worked on main editor on Road to Tyranny and Masters of Terror.

00:26:18.000 And he, when he's dreaming, because I've been on a road trip with him before, and he's in the bed next to me, you know, in the twin bed next to me, and he's speaking in Spanish.

00:26:29.000 He'll wake up and somebody's speaking because he grew up in Guatemala.

00:26:32.000 And he's a bartender.

00:26:34.000 And he just sits, you know, and of course, frankly, most of his friends, when he lived here in Austin, he lived with a bunch of his Hispanic friends who were other DJs.

00:26:42.000 But so again, he's not against Mexicans or Hispanics. 0.95

00:26:46.000 But to make a long story short, he says, oh yeah, when I'm bartending, he goes, it's probably only 20-30% of the Mexicans, but they'll walk up and go, look at this scumbag, Greenville, I can't wait until we take over and deal with him. 0.99

00:26:58.000 And he'll just snap back and fluent Spanish, hey, what's your problem, racist? 0.99

00:27:01.000 You know, I'm more Latin than you are, I'm from Guatemala.

00:27:04.000 And they'll go, oh, oh, oh, oh, because again, it's just everywhere, ladies and gentlemen.

00:27:12.000 It's going on all over the place.

00:27:17.000 And I'm sick of it. 1.00

00:27:18.000 And it's just like I told you, the professors want to kill 90% of you. 0.99

00:27:23.000 And I say it every broadcast on average. 0.94

00:27:25.000 I'm constantly talking about it.

00:27:27.000 I give you documents, State Department, CIA, Department of Commerce, World Health Organization, UN Food Program, all these documents.

00:27:38.000 And I show where they've done it.

00:27:40.000 Where they've engineered AIDS. 0.96

00:27:42.000 Where they've engineered all of this.

00:27:44.000 Where they've released it on purpose.

00:27:45.000 Nobel Prize winners have gone public.

00:27:48.000 Even at Ad Asneron, he starts bringing up how they want to exterminate the population.

00:27:51.000 I mean, anybody in the know knows this.

00:27:55.000 When you're in the know, and I just got on air and warned you! 0.99

00:27:59.000 Believe me, I found it hard to believe that they've got an open plan they're spreading to kill all whites above the age of 16, all white males. 0.99

00:28:06.000 Plan of San Diego. 0.99

00:28:07.000 But I mean, and then they get on the air, and they lie about it.

00:28:10.000 People that head up groups that I know are pushing Liberty Conquista, I went and checked this lady's organization, and what funds it. 1.00

00:28:18.000 And you go look it up, and they're behind the Lorincon Keys, and they'll go right on the radio and go, That's a great job!

00:28:23.000 You're making that up, Mr. Jones!

00:28:25.000 How dare you make that up!

00:28:27.000 We want to be your friend!

00:28:30.000 Just wait until Planets in the Eagle! 0.95

00:28:32.000 I mean, it's just like, Hey!

00:28:35.000 You want to live in peace?

00:28:36.000 Fine! 0.99

00:28:37.000 Stop sneaking around, saying you're gonna kill me! 0.98

00:28:41.000 I'm not gonna put up with it! 0.71

00:28:43.000 Do you understand?

00:28:45.000 Comprende?

00:28:47.000 Okay?

00:28:49.000 It's simple.

00:28:51.000 By the way, we tested this new phone system.

00:28:53.000 They're someday, over the rainbow, going to get the old one back up and working, the 1-800 lines.

00:28:59.000 But I've got my own little system here, and I've got to unmute it.

00:29:03.000 We're running it through the internet to take calls, so there's about a second delay.

00:29:06.000 So be prepared for that, callers.

00:29:08.000 And we'll go to Keith, Dan, Randy, Steve, and others.

00:29:12.000 And we do appreciate everybody out there.

00:29:14.000 We moved the studios.

00:29:15.000 They're great new studios.

00:29:16.000 Sounds better.

00:29:17.000 I don't know what's going on with the phone company.

00:29:19.000 Frankly, the computer system's in there.

00:29:22.000 We'll deal with it.

00:29:23.000 But, uh, when I come back, I'll take calls, then I'll get into this professor that says that he wants 90% of us to die, and he gets standing ovations, 95%. 0.95

00:29:33.000 Stand up, according to reports, and praise him, and just, we all need to die. 1.00

00:29:37.000 And then, fuck you. 1.00

00:29:39.000 It's just the facts. 1.00

00:29:39.000 I'm just reporting on people who want to kill us. 1.00

00:29:42.000 Simple. 0.80

00:29:43.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:44.000 We'll continue to expose these people.

00:29:45.000 Stay with us.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:55.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:11.000 And then I'll get into how the majority of environmental scientists, the majority of biologists, I can say this with total confidence, openly, constantly talk about how they want to kill everybody.

00:33:24.000 And the University of Texas runs level 4 bio-weapons laboratories with Department of Defense funding.

00:33:31.000 They have one at Galveston.

00:33:34.000 They have a Level 3 here in Austin, and I demand the FBI get in there.

00:33:39.000 I demand they investigate every single one of these graduate students that is in there, that has gone to Bianca's classes.

00:33:46.000 I demand that they start reading their research papers, but the FBI knows.

00:33:51.000 Listen, I've been reading these research papers for years, by scientists, by graduate students, where all they talk about is how they want to kill us.

00:33:57.000 And you've got top biologists, graduates, and undergrads, and PhDs all over the web calling Bianca God, saying he's right, and they're now working in Department of Defense labs, they're working in level 4 labs, level 3 labs, all over the country.

00:34:13.000 And they've got stuff in these laboratories that makes the bird flu and the Spanish flu look like mother's milk, look like lemonade.

00:34:21.000 Look like a spoonful of medicine.

00:34:24.000 And so we're going to get into that.

00:34:26.000 Listen, do you understand what we're talking about right now?

00:34:29.000 And don't worry, when the government releases this stuff, it won't be some grad student.

00:34:33.000 It won't be some biology professor.

00:34:34.000 They'll blame it on one of these little fruitcakes. 0.99

00:34:36.000 It's going to be the globalists.

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00:36:45.000 Okay, again, the new phone system here, it's got about a second delay.

00:36:48.000 The original phone system, supposedly, was going to be up last week.

00:36:50.000 It's not yet, so I'm undoing this IP phone.

00:36:53.000 Callers can call into it with regular phone lines at 888-234-4564.

00:37:01.000 888-234-5464.

00:37:03.000 And let's go ahead and unmute Keith in Ohio.

00:37:07.000 Keith, you're on the air.

00:37:08.000 Thank you for joining us, sir.

00:37:09.000 Alright, thank you.

00:37:11.000 Keep up the good work, Alex.

00:37:13.000 You know, for a Christian, Matthew 10 talks about we need to not fear them that can kill the body, but Him, that is the Lord, that can destroy both body and soul and hell, you know? 0.97

00:37:25.000 And in Isaiah 8, Isaiah was living in a time similar to ours, and the Lord told him and others not to fear what the people were fearing.

00:37:35.000 That is, to let God be your fear, let Him be your dread. 0.92

00:37:38.000 Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and so fear of the devil is the beginning of idiocy. 0.99

00:37:45.000 Yeah. 0.60

00:37:46.000 You know, what we're looking at here over the last number of years, and even longer than that, is the forming of this one-world, end-time system, the end-time beast system, going according to the Word of God.

00:37:58.000 And religion plays a big central part to this.

00:38:04.000 And believe it or not, you know, the Vatican plays a very central part to what's been happening over the years.

00:38:11.000 And there's a couple different authors.

00:38:13.000 The World's Black Dictator by Dwight Kinman.

00:38:16.000 That book is loaded with information.

00:38:18.000 It's solid.

00:38:18.000 I recommend that.

00:38:19.000 And also Chick.com.

00:38:21.000 Chick Publications, The Godfathers, Smokescreens, and books by Rick Jones.

00:38:26.000 You know, we just need the truth.

00:38:27.000 We want to love people.

00:38:28.000 We want them to have the truth.

00:38:32.000 Let me say something about the churches, if I may.

00:38:35.000 They have been taken over by the Schofield crowd.

00:38:37.000 They say, lay down, go along, it's not your job to fight it, you're going to get raptured out of here.

00:38:42.000 Were people raptured with Hitler?

00:38:43.000 Were they raptured in Rwanda when 800,000 were killed by the Hutus in the UN?

00:38:50.000 This stuff is going to come down on us, and it's our job to warn people.

00:38:53.000 And I hear so many so-called Christians call on the talk radio and say, lay down, don't get involved, go along, it's not our job.

00:39:00.000 And I know you're not saying that.

00:39:01.000 It is our job to warn people.

00:39:04.000 Duty is ours.

00:39:04.000 Consequences belong to God.

00:39:06.000 It is, as the Founding Fathers said, it is our job to state the facts as they are.

00:39:11.000 We want to be active, not passive.

00:39:11.000 Exactly.

00:39:14.000 We don't want to be tossed to and fro by the waves and the winds, you know.

00:39:19.000 I believe a lot can happen even before the tribulation period, just like you mentioned historical examples.

00:39:26.000 We're talking a lot of apostasy and Christian type religion, but with the Roman system you're looking at a false Christianity, an appearance of Christianity mixed with paganism over the centuries.

00:39:38.000 And so, you know, you see... Let me ask you a question, sir.

00:39:42.000 Do you have any comments about Professor Panika and all these people running around saying we've all got to die?

00:39:50.000 Yeah, that's pretty... I've heard different things like that in the past.

00:39:57.000 It's just where things are heading, you know, and maybe...

00:40:01.000 He's kind of a diversionary tactic, maybe slightly.

00:40:04.000 Well, there's an army of these people, and they use people like him to just bring it out and introduce it, so we hear it over and over again and become accustomed.

00:40:14.000 Yeah, we get conditioned to it so that, you know, sometimes the enemy hides behind putting out their front men.

00:40:22.000 So you can attack the front men like a lightning, like a lightning rod, you know.

00:40:26.000 So they, kind of like the, uh, some of our political leaders, you know, people think that they're invested with so much power.

00:40:31.000 When the real powers are behind the scenes, you never vote them in.

00:40:34.000 I totally, I totally agree with you, sir.

00:40:36.000 And I really do appreciate your call.

00:40:38.000 You're absolutely right.

00:40:39.000 We're going to go ahead and take another call.

00:40:41.000 I believe this next one is Dan in California.

00:40:42.000 I may have these mixed up here on the computer screen, but let's go ahead and, uh, Go ahead and go to Dan.

00:40:49.000 Dan, are you there, my friend?

00:40:52.000 I'm here, Alex.

00:40:53.000 Can you hear me?

00:40:53.000 Yes, sir, I can.

00:40:54.000 Go ahead.

00:40:54.000 Okay, I'm on a cell phone, so I try to get it to where you can get the best signal.

00:41:00.000 That's okay, sir.

00:41:01.000 Go ahead.

00:41:02.000 Okay, well, I tell a lot of people about you, because you're credible, you know, at least up to this point.

00:41:10.000 I still think you are, but you had a guest on yesterday, Robert Bowman.

00:41:15.000 Yes.

00:41:16.000 And on his website, he says he's an Archbishop of the United Catholic Church, an independent Catholic movement.

00:41:23.000 And I go to his website, and I click on there, and he's talking about this United Catholic Church, and let me read this one paragraph real quick.

00:41:31.000 It just says, United Catholic Church includes church parishes, progressive parishes, everything in between.

00:41:36.000 You can walk into one of our parishes and hear the trip in Latin.

00:41:42.000 And then it says, in another you can hear the Novus Ordo Mass, and it will be indistinguishable from what you will experience in most parishes.

00:41:51.000 And in another you'll find a woman priest and her congregation. 0.79

00:41:54.000 And what binds us together is our Catholic faith, and you know, we're open to ordaining homosexual priests, and we don't care. 0.98

00:42:03.000 Sir, I didn't disconnect you, your cell phone dropped there.

00:42:09.000 Everyone I have on this broadcast, and notice we have two calls in a row talking about Catholics.

00:42:15.000 There'll probably be five more in a row.

00:42:18.000 I don't think this is a setup today, but sometimes it is.

00:42:20.000 And again, I'm not Catholic, folks.

00:42:22.000 I'm trying to talk about the New World Order, population control agendas, what the globalists are up to, what they're doing.

00:42:30.000 And it just gets frustrating that I've laid out all these issues, all these pertinent things that are happening right now.

00:42:36.000 Mr. Bowman, Dr. Bowman, was the head of the Star Wars program.

00:42:40.000 Dr. Bowman did fly 101 combat missions over Vietnam as a fighter pilot, and he's highly decorated.

00:42:46.000 And as a fighter pilot, and as a pilot, he's saying 9-11 story is impossible and a fable and a fraud.

00:42:52.000 That's why we have conservatives on, we have liberals on, we have libertarians on, we have people we don't even agree with on, and we have them on to talk about 9-11 and other key issues.

00:43:04.000 If we ever tried to only interview people on this broadcast we totally agree with, then we would not even have any guests on, because there's no one out there I totally agree with.

00:43:14.000 I disagree with my beliefs from one month to the next.

00:43:17.000 My general beliefs are core and stay the same, but I'm always learning more.

00:43:22.000 So I appreciate your call.

00:43:28.000 We're going to go ahead now and go to another caller.

00:43:31.000 I believe this is Dan in California.

00:43:33.000 Dan, you're on the air.

00:43:35.000 Yeah, hey Alex, how are you?

00:43:37.000 Good, sir.

00:43:38.000 Okay, very good.

00:43:40.000 Um, well, the thing is, is that, um, this, uh, the U.N.

00:43:45.000 has this, there's somebody who set up this Georgia Guidestones, and, uh, where it talks about they want to depopulate 80% of the people, and they set this up in 1980.

00:43:57.000 Yes, I meant to put that in the article that Paul and I wrote two days ago about Professor Pianco saying 90% of us need to die and getting a standing ovation from 95% of those in the audience.

00:44:09.000 And we are going to add that in a part two that's coming up today or tomorrow.

00:44:13.000 about this and we've covered the Georgia Guidestones a lot.

00:44:16.000 A Masonic organization put them up saying this is the Ten Commandments and the Ten Commandments is actually to reduce the world population to 400 to 500 million from memory, I believe is what it says.

00:44:27.000 Just type Georgia Guidestones into Google or another search engine and you can see the photos of it.

00:44:32.000 And yes sir, sir, this is the master plan.

00:44:34.000 This is all these people talk about.

00:44:36.000 Their religion's sacrament is killing 80 to 95 percent of us. 0.99

00:44:44.000 Does that answer your question, sir?

00:44:48.000 I think this... I can hear you there, but yeah, he's still there.

00:44:52.000 He's just not talking.

00:44:55.000 Okay, I'm going to go ahead and kick that caller then.

00:45:01.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Randy in Colorado, I believe.

00:45:06.000 There's so many calls coming in here on this phone system.

00:45:09.000 I guess this thing can take like 20 calls.

00:45:11.000 I don't even know which one I'm on.

00:45:14.000 So I'll try it from the bottom up.

00:45:15.000 That sounds better.

00:45:16.000 New phone system I'm here getting used to.

00:45:18.000 Let's go to Jonathan.

00:45:20.000 Jonathan in, I believe, in California is up next.

00:45:26.000 Go ahead, Jonathan.

00:45:27.000 You're on the air.

00:45:29.000 Hello, Jonathan.

00:45:30.000 Welcome.

00:45:34.000 Okay.

00:45:35.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:45:38.000 This is what I've been forced to do is go to this phone system, folks.

00:45:41.000 I'm gonna put him, uh... Hello?

00:45:43.000 Yes, yes, Jonathan, go ahead.

00:45:45.000 Okay, do you know how many, how many square feet are in a mile?

00:45:49.000 You know, I don't have that in front of me, but I know the calculations are you could give each person on Earth, uh, a acre and... And do you know where I'm getting that?

00:45:57.000 Let me just stop and, and, and put them into the state of Texas.

00:46:02.000 There's 20, well, rounded that up, 28 million, uh, square feet in a mile.

00:46:06.000 So in a thousand miles, you've got 2,800,000,000 square feet.

00:46:11.000 And that's... I was just doing a study on my county, Nevada County, which is a thousand miles.

00:46:15.000 You get yourself something like Fresno, that's 168,000,000,000 square feet.

00:46:20.000 These people have got to look at the numbers.

00:46:24.000 There's plenty of room.

00:46:25.000 This overpopulation is just a bunch of propaganda and I'm tired of it.

00:46:30.000 Well, sir, what it is is a pretext and an excuse to devalue human life.

00:46:34.000 The radical animal rights people are funded by the big banks and the big foundations of the universities, because then they can say, well, animals have the same rights as you, and the government represents the animals, so the animals' rights outweigh your rights, or you could say outvote your rights, and so we are all as valuable as bacteria, as Professor Pianka and Professor Peter Singer And others have said, and so we're going to have to get rid of you.

00:47:01.000 In fact, he's an expert on his site in corralling human populations, he says, and environmental buffer zones, and putting us into compact cities.

00:47:09.000 A prison planet in the name of saving the Earth.

00:47:13.000 This is the excuse of the globalists to bring in an incredible tyranny, and they propagandize millions of students and graduate students to be adherents to this modern death cult.

00:47:23.000 It's indoctrination.

00:47:25.000 That's all public school is anymore.

00:47:27.000 It's indoctrination, but I just want to put the numbers out there.

00:47:29.000 There's plenty of real breath, the animals, the fish. 0.64

00:47:33.000 It's a bunch of bollocks.

00:47:36.000 You're right, sir, and I appreciate your call.

00:47:40.000 You're absolutely right.

00:47:41.000 Let's go to...

00:47:43.000 I'm told this next caller is Steve Mason, who I know personally.

00:47:47.000 I hope I go to the right one here.

00:47:49.000 And Steve is a local activist who exposes the open borders, and who has given me some of the audio and videotapes of the mayor saying that they are the master race, and this is Aslan, three years ago, outgoing mayor.

00:48:02.000 And of course, his name was Gus Garcia, and then he gave me the Gutierrez tape where he said we've got to kill all the whites, implement the plan of San Diego, and now that's back in the news today.

00:48:12.000 So, right now, let's go ahead and speak to Steve Mason. 0.96

00:48:19.000 I believe this is Steve.

00:48:21.000 Steve, thank you for calling.

00:48:22.000 What's on your mind?

00:48:24.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:48:25.000 I first wanted to alert everybody to the reckoning up in Crawford, Texas on May 6th.

00:48:31.000 Where they're going to go protest against Bush's open border policies.

00:48:35.000 And you can find that at www.areckoning.com Alex, you know they're going to have another pro-illegal march tomorrow, Monday, this coming Monday?

00:48:45.000 I knew that, and I'm going to be out of town just for Monday, but let me just bring this up to you, Steve.

00:48:50.000 You were there at the Mexican Independence Day parade where they were calling us gringos and telling us to leave, and they had their t-shirts on saying all whites above age 16 who are male must die, and is this a minority view with the illegal lobby, or is this a majority view?

00:49:09.000 The people who are outspoken about it, of course, are a minor view, and of course the majority will always tell you, oh, well, they don't agree with it, but it seems to me that birds of a feather flock together, if you know what I mean.

00:49:22.000 Well, I mean, it's the leaders of the movement, it's the dominant forces, and they're on the extreme saying you all must die, but then the majority of the illegal lobby just says, no, you've just got to go back to Europe.

00:49:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:35.000 Well, I mean, do you agree with that?

00:49:37.000 Because you're an expert on this.

00:49:39.000 Yes, I agree with you.

00:49:40.000 I agree with you.

00:49:42.000 I think this Ocelot stuff and Kill the Gringo and I think we cleanse Whitey out is part and parcel of the warp and weave of the Chicano movement. 1.00

00:49:54.000 And I don't know if you read in the paper about the Cesar Chavez march this weekend?

00:50:00.000 And heard what Susana Almanza from Poder had to say?

00:50:05.000 No, I heard about the march, but not her.

00:50:07.000 What happened?

00:50:09.000 Oh, well, you know, she's an Aztec supremacist. 1.00

00:50:12.000 She was put on the planning commission in the city of Austin.

00:50:14.000 She's a former Brown Beret. 1.00

00:50:17.000 And she was talking about that we shouldn't be allowed to pass laws against her people because this is a continent. 0.99

00:50:26.000 This is all one continent.

00:50:27.000 Oh, yeah, I mean, I mean, about half the signs say this is our continent.

00:50:30.000 Leave, you know.

00:50:32.000 Yeah, yeah, and so they're totally racialized, and she was a featured speaker for it, along with Lloyd Doggett up there. 0.77

00:50:38.000 When their leaders are brown supremacists, and our congressman marches with them, then it is brown supremacy. 0.98

00:50:47.000 All right, Steve, always good to hear from you, my friend.

00:50:50.000 I appreciate it.

00:50:50.000 We'll take some more calls.

00:50:51.000 This is working pretty good.

00:50:53.000 I guess this thing can take like 10, 15 lines.

00:50:56.000 I don't know.

00:50:57.000 We'll just keep plowing through your calls.

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00:55:51.000 We're going to go ahead now and talk to Anita.

00:55:53.000 And Anita, you're on the air.

00:55:55.000 Hi.

00:55:55.000 Welcome.

00:55:55.000 Hi Alex.

00:55:56.000 Austin, Texas, 787-04.

00:55:58.000 We're going to go ahead now and talk to Anita.

00:56:02.000 And, Anita, you're on the air.

00:56:04.000 Welcome.

00:56:05.000 Hi, Alec.

00:56:07.000 Hi.

00:56:07.000 I hope this is still pertinent.

00:56:10.000 While you were gone off the air, Lou Dobbs came on, and they were talking about 911, and they had this man who was supposedly this shadow conspirator who had trained the men who were on the and they had this man who was supposedly this shadow conspirator who had trained the men Yes.

00:56:32.000 And how they couldn't find him, but that supposedly he was killed during the first round of battle over in Iraq.

00:56:40.000 Sure, yeah.

00:56:43.000 Well, it's like in Ohio, they bust a group of, quote, terrorists, and then it turns out that a government agent, special forces Arab, you know, from the U.S.

00:56:55.000 military, is their, quote, handler, the unnamed conspirator.

00:56:59.000 So they go set these patsies up to create the illusion that they're really domestic terrorists.

00:57:04.000 Right.

00:57:05.000 Talk one up for Alex.

00:57:08.000 Good job.

00:57:09.000 Well, it's the same story all the time.

00:57:11.000 I mean, they have the same M.O., Anita.

00:57:12.000 I'm just doing my job, and I appreciate your support, and I appreciate your call.

00:57:17.000 Now, let's try to jam one more in here.

00:57:19.000 Let's talk to Scott in California.

00:57:21.000 Scott, you're on the air, sir.

00:57:22.000 Welcome.

00:57:24.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

00:57:25.000 Boy, yesterday's broadcast was amazing.

00:57:28.000 Those two interviews.

00:57:29.000 We've now got a smoking gun about this population control agenda or what I would call mass murder.

00:57:36.000 Boy, and we've got such a great list of 9-11 whistleblowers now between British members of former members of government, German, various Americans.

00:57:45.000 You've got such an amazing list.

00:57:47.000 Let me tell your listeners, Hey, you really need to go to prisonplanet.tv and get a membership because these interviews are all posted.

00:57:54.000 If you missed the interviews from yesterday with, what was his name, Mims?

00:57:58.000 Yes.

00:57:59.000 Yeah, about the population control thing, or the other individual who's 9-11 whistleblower, what was his name, Alex?

00:58:05.000 Former head of Star Wars, Dr. Bob Bowman.

00:58:08.000 We also had the chairman, Mims.

00:58:13.000 Yeah, amazing.

00:58:13.000 So credible.

00:58:15.000 Credible sources.

00:58:16.000 And Alex, let me say, I hear the music so I've got to rush, but I've been kind of sitting here observing things and after yesterday, I'm going active.

00:58:25.000 I can't just sit here on my desk.

00:58:26.000 So I'm going to launch a big project and if you would let me, after the break, give out my email address to your listeners, I need some volunteers.

00:58:33.000 Yeah, we can't do that because we've got the professor joining us, but start a website and we'll plug it.

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00:59:03.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 All right!

00:59:15.000 Now into hour number dosh, second hour.

00:59:19.000 All right.

00:59:26.000 Now into hour number dose.

00:59:31.000 Second hour.

00:59:32.000 Coming up in the next segment, we're scheduled to have Professor Dr. David Ray Griffin joining us.

00:59:41.000 Best-selling author on 9-11.

00:59:42.000 Very astute.

00:59:43.000 Able to wake up a lot of people.

00:59:45.000 And we're here with a big tent to promote him and promote what he's doing.

00:59:48.000 He just had a sold-out crowd in San Francisco there exposing the myth of 9-11.

00:59:54.000 We've got links to that up on InfoWars.com, an MP3 of that.

00:59:58.000 But he'll be joining us with another newsmaker interview here today.

01:00:02.000 Another one of the credible Whistleblowers and people exposing government complicity in 9-11 running the attacks as a pretext for global empire.

01:00:11.000 And we will continue to take calls throughout the broadcast today as well on a new number for now. 888-234-5464. 888-234-5464.

01:00:37.000 And And we will certainly get you up and on the air as well.

01:00:42.000 And then later, I want to spend some time on the headline, Scientists Cheers Holocaust Wish, from right here in Austin, Texas.

01:00:49.000 He gave a speech last weekend saying it again, and he gave a speech a month ago to the Texas Academy of Scientists saying it, and it's not based in science.

01:00:56.000 And he got off on it, according to the professors and others we've talked to that witnessed it.

01:01:00.000 95% of the professors and scientists and students and graduate students got up to a rousing applause, a standing ovation, and went on and on.

01:01:10.000 And this is an elite mentality, an elite philosophy, and we're going to be exposing it.

01:01:15.000 It's even crept into the 9-11 Truth Movement, people pushing these Malthusian social Darwinistic views.

01:01:19.000 Very destructive!

01:01:21.000 I am honored to now be joined by Professor David Ray Griffin, best-selling author.

01:01:27.000 I'll tell you about those books as well.

01:01:29.000 And it is good to have you on with us today, sir.

01:01:33.000 Good morning, Alex.

01:01:34.000 Good to be back with you.

01:01:35.000 You bet.

01:01:36.000 When we come back, I want to get into how things went over the weekend in San Francisco.

01:01:36.000 We're about to break.

01:01:40.000 You're very successful speech and presentation that you gave, then I want to talk to you about where you think the 9/11 Truth Movement is going, what you think of Charlie Sheen going public, if you think other big people are going to be going public, and basically from your in-depth analysis what you think really happened on 9/11, and maybe go through the four scenarios that you and maybe go through the four scenarios that you discussed.

01:02:01.000 But first off, I just again want to thank you for joining us.

01:02:03.000 You're welcome.

01:02:05.000 How did it go in San Francisco?

01:02:08.000 Oh, quite well.

01:02:09.000 All three events that I spoke for were sold out.

01:02:15.000 The one, they had a capacity of 600 and I guess they turned away 50 or more.

01:02:22.000 So, it's very encouraging.

01:02:23.000 It shows that there's a growing movement of people out there who are interested in this, you know, interested enough to come out on a rainy night and There's an enormous amount of interest and enthusiasm about it.

01:02:42.000 I also spoke for the Democratic World Federalists and then at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco.

01:02:50.000 And again, they said they had the biggest audiences they had had in some time.

01:02:58.000 Well, that's exciting.

01:02:59.000 What did you title your speech in San Francisco?

01:03:01.000 Wasn't it something like the 9-11 hoax or fraud?

01:03:04.000 Uh, all three of them were called, uh, 9-11, the myth, and the reality.

01:03:09.000 Ah, yes, the myth and the reality.

01:03:10.000 I saw that.

01:03:11.000 Saw that on some of the sites, and I believe we have a link to that MP3.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, what I stressed was that myth is used in various ways, and our ordinary use of it is, just means something that's false.

01:03:24.000 But also, it's, uh, you know, a religious myth serves as a sacred story, and that's what 9-11 has done.

01:03:32.000 A sacred fable.

01:03:35.000 A new religion of the police state.

01:03:38.000 A new religion delivering us into the hands of neo-fascism. 0.98

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01:07:41.000 Professor David Ray Griffin, I know some of you don't know who he is, most of you do, but Professor, before we get into 9-11, just for people who don't know who you are, tell us about yourself and then tell us how you woke up to 9-11.

01:07:51.000 I saw a story, a positive one, the San Francisco Chronicle, with the headline, out loud, an inside job.

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01:08:05.000 By the way, the San Francisco Chronicle, I didn't mention this, wrote an article saying Infowars.com is right and calling us a watchdog yesterday.

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01:08:24.000 Professor, tell us about yourself and your awakening so we can compare it to other people's awakenings.

01:08:29.000 And then I want to talk about some of the other whistleblowers and then your particular approach to 9-11 and why it's been so effective with your scholarly approach to waking people up.

01:08:41.000 Well, my background, I've been a philosophy of religion and theology professor.

01:08:48.000 I had gotten interested in the last 10-15 years of my ...teaching career in the questions of global politics.

01:09:00.000 And then after 9-11, I started writing a book on U.S.

01:09:05.000 imperialism because I had originally accepted the blowback thesis that 9-11 was a blowback from U.S.

01:09:13.000 foreign policy that most Americans didn't know about.

01:09:18.000 But then, about a year and a half in, We saw that this was, like many other incidents, a false flag operation to promote our entry into a war, in this case, a self-declared war on terrorism.

01:09:39.000 Now, describe that awakening though.

01:09:41.000 Do you remember the moment when you just had seen so much evidence that it clicked, or was it more incremental?

01:09:47.000 Oh, uh, yeah, it was very definite.

01:09:49.000 It was after a colleague had sent the, uh, a website that had Paul Thompson's timeline.

01:09:57.000 Um, there's a 200 page, what at that time was a 200 single-spaced page, uh, timeline giving all sorts of stories from the strictly mainstream press that contradicted the official story.

01:10:13.000 So if I recall correctly, it was only a couple hours into that that I saw that the official story most likely was false.

01:10:25.000 I've found that's very effective, the different 100 smoking guns, 200 smoking guns, 20 smoking guns, there's all these different articles out there that just list mainstream what is available.

01:10:36.000 If you can, for people to just join us, go through your four different views, there's four different ways to historically look at this from different perspectives.

01:10:47.000 Let's see, that was some time back that I gave that.

01:10:51.000 Lecture, certainly there's the official theory that this was an attack by foreign terrorists and therefore in order to protect ourselves we had to launch this war on terror.

01:11:07.000 Other people believe that, yeah, that was true, but that we lied about some of the details and certainly particularly lied about Iraq.

01:11:18.000 In order to justify a response that was completely disproportionate to the cause, and in some cases had no relation.

01:11:27.000 So that would be the view of many of the... much of the left who hold that view.

01:11:37.000 Certainly a third view is that the government knew it was coming, but deliberately Let it happen, and then perhaps joined in.

01:11:48.000 So, for example, perhaps Al-Qaeda really did organize the attack on the World Trade Center, but of course they couldn't have made the buildings come down so that our own agents placed the explosives in there.

01:12:03.000 And then, of course, the force theory is that our people were orchestrating the whole thing.

01:12:11.000 Now, you've said on this broadcast that you believe only number four fits the facts, and I concur. 0.99

01:12:20.000 Well, that's right, and for many people it's more comfortable to think about, well, maybe we just allowed it to happen.

01:12:28.000 It seems more evil to orchestrate the whole thing, but really it doesn't make much difference in terms of the level of evil involved.

01:12:35.000 And when you start looking at the details, you realize that The let-it-happen position just doesn't fit so many of the facts.

01:12:45.000 Like, how did Al-Qaeda defeat the most sophisticated defense system in history?

01:12:52.000 They could not have carried off even the attack on the World Trade Center.

01:12:56.000 When you see Bush's behavior at the school, obviously the lead Secret Service agent had to know that that schoolhouse was not going to be a target, or they would have been out of there immediately, and so on and so on.

01:13:09.000 And then you clearly have the bomb blast points going off in all three of the buildings.

01:13:13.000 Building 7, Sterling, example.

01:13:15.000 You have the public officials warned not to fly.

01:13:17.000 It goes on and on.

01:13:19.000 That's right.

01:13:20.000 That's right.

01:13:22.000 And then we have things like Northwoods, where the U.S. 0.60

01:13:24.000 government says, we can stage our agents getting on planes, have that land somewhere else, fly a drone, blow it up, and claim young people are on board.

01:13:32.000 That'll cause a helpful wave of national indignation for a pretext for World War III. 0.98

01:13:37.000 We then have Gulf of Tonkin.

01:13:38.000 We then have USS Liberty.

01:13:40.000 We have Project Ajax going in and overthrowing Mozadek, now admitted and declassified.

01:13:45.000 Our government carried out terror attacks to blame it on him, successfully. 0.99

01:13:49.000 I mean, there's so many examples of that.

01:13:50.000 Then we have PNAC saying we need helpful Pearl Harbor events.

01:13:54.000 We have Brzezinski saying the same thing.

01:13:57.000 I mean, it's just, once you start, and then you have the motive for domestic control, trillions in oil, hundreds of billions in weapons sales, no-bid contracts, it really gets clear.

01:14:07.000 Yeah, and in my recent lecture, I laid out a lot of this background information.

01:14:15.000 It seemed like it was helpful to people to hear that before they got into the details about the World Trade Center.

01:14:22.000 I don't know if you've seen my films, but that's what I do in Road to Tyranny, that's what I do in Martial Law, that's what I did in my little book, and of course I was the first to cover this.

01:14:32.000 I'm not tooting my horn, I just organically went from the position of, hey look, they admit they've done it all these times, so why are you shocked now?

01:14:41.000 That's right.

01:14:44.000 I find that the two a priori arguments that keep people from looking at the evidence.

01:14:50.000 One is this view that such a big conspiracy could not be kept secret.

01:14:57.000 And again, if people knew the history of big operations, they would know that is not true.

01:15:02.000 Many, many big operations have been kept a secret.

01:15:05.000 Nobody has come forward who was on the inside and talked.

01:15:09.000 And the other one is simply that we wouldn't do such a thing.

01:15:13.000 And again, if people knew our own history of false flag operations and terrorist campaigns, they would realize that a priori argument doesn't work either.

01:15:24.000 And so you have to look at the evidence in this particular case and say, did they do it again?

01:15:31.000 Exactly, and I would add the caveat that big operations do go public, but the whistleblowers get ignored because the media is owned and no one ever learns of it.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, I asked yesterday at the Commonwealth Club if anybody there knew about the war that we started in Indonesia in 1957, fulmented a full-scale civil war, and nobody had...

01:15:59.000 It hadn't even been revealed until 1995.

01:16:01.000 Well, the average American doesn't even know that we've got tens of thousands of troops in a full-scale war in Colombia right now.

01:16:09.000 That's right.

01:16:10.000 So these things can be kept secret, at least from the American public.

01:16:16.000 You were trying to finish up with Indonesia when I interrupted.

01:16:19.000 I mean, this is pretty amazing to think that nothing came out in public Between 1957 and 1995, when George and Audrey Cahan published the book called Subversion as Foreign Policy, and still Most Americans have not heard of that, so they don't realize that there was a huge operation that was kept secret for several decades.

01:16:19.000 Well, that's right.

01:16:44.000 Well, basically, you have academics and you have independent researchers who've been cloistered because of mainstream media compartmentalization.

01:16:52.000 We've never gotten out to the people.

01:16:53.000 Now that dam has broken.

01:16:55.000 Do you agree the dam has broken?

01:16:58.000 I think it has.

01:16:59.000 One big factor was the rise of this An organization called Scholars for 9-11 Truth.

01:17:08.000 So, you know, just a while ago, people could ridicule the movement, say it's a bunch of crazies on the internet, and a few people with talk shows, and, you know, a theologian.

01:17:23.000 And now there are, what, 60 or 70 full members.

01:17:29.000 That means, I believe in all cases, people with PhDs.

01:17:33.000 who have joined this movement and we have a, you know, they're now mechanical engineers and all the disciplines that are needed.

01:17:41.000 Physicists, structural engineers.

01:17:44.000 That's right.

01:17:45.000 And so it cannot be ridiculed anymore as something that only a bunch of crazies believe.

01:17:53.000 And then the fact that you mentioned Charlie Sheen, the fact that there's this breakthrough that you helped instigate,

01:18:01.000 uh... that got national media attention and uh... you know as soon as people become aware that these things are being talked about and look into them they can see rather immediately uh... you know as long as they don't have these a priori blinders on they can see rather immediately that the official story uh... just doesn't make sense like charlie particularly stressed building seven and uh... that is probably one of the

01:18:28.000 The clearest example is that it had to be an inside job.

01:18:32.000 Stay there, riveting information.

01:18:34.000 We'll continue to talk about this breakthrough that's happened and where David Ray Griffin, Professor David Ray Griffin, believes this is going in the future.

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01:22:48.000 866 no odors that's one eight six six no odors defending the human species from psychopaths that have gotten control of our society and And I am a student of history, a layman, but that is what I have done for entertainment for decades.

01:23:09.000 I find history to be much more riveting than fiction.

01:23:13.000 And I don't know of governments or empires or societies where evil people didn't normally get into control, where despotism and subterfuge wasn't the norm.

01:23:22.000 Professor David Ray Griffin, best-selling author, One of the leaders in the 9-11 Scholar Movement, in fact, the founder, I would venture to say, of that movement.

01:23:34.000 One of the first prominent people in the vanguard of that second wave we saw three years ago.

01:23:40.000 Professor, from your study of history, and I know you've studied history quite a bit, I mean, was my previous statement false, or is tyranny the normal ether, and liberty a rare, delicate flower?

01:23:55.000 Well, that's certainly the case.

01:23:56.000 And, uh, you know, we had this saying from Ben, uh, Ben Franklin, you know, uh, what do we have here?

01:24:03.000 A, uh, a republic if you can keep it.

01:24:07.000 And, uh, it is very hard to, uh, keep it.

01:24:10.000 And, uh, and of course now we have people who, uh, deliberately, uh, don't want it to be kept.

01:24:17.000 And, uh, and, and unfortunately, uh, in the meantime, they, uh, they co-opted the, uh, The fourth estate so that the mainstream media which we would assume would be protesting all these incursions on civil rights and all these violations of international law are for the most part remaining silent.

01:24:41.000 What are they going to do about that?

01:24:42.000 I mean, they're really moving to tax and regulate and shut down speech.

01:24:45.000 Rumsfeld and others, the head of the Defense Department, Ministry of Defense in England has said the same thing, that they're losing.

01:24:52.000 The mainstream media now knows they've lost credibility.

01:24:55.000 The alternative media surpassed in visitors and readership and viewership last year.

01:25:00.000 They're really starting to panic and I see them moving to try to block us.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, and I've seen these signs.

01:25:10.000 I haven't studied it enough to speak with any authority on it, but I certainly fear that that will be the next step and that a few steps have already been taken.

01:25:20.000 Is Pandora's box already open?

01:25:21.000 Is the genie already out of the bottle?

01:25:23.000 Are the floodgates already open?

01:25:25.000 I just don't know.

01:25:27.000 The problem is that the alternative media, whereas it's reaching a lot of people, is fractured.

01:25:35.000 It's fractured and you don't have an organizing center, whereas with the mainstream media, you still have a large percentage of the voting public there, but when they get all hot about something, they can mobilize the masses.

01:25:51.000 They can still steer the debate to a certain extent, but I see that deteriorating.

01:25:57.000 Yeah, but it's still so powerful.

01:26:00.000 My own view as for the future of the 9-11 movement, I think there are two major things that are going on now.

01:26:09.000 One is the one I already mentioned, the growth of enormous increase in the number of scholars who are involved in it and visibly involved.

01:26:20.000 The second front that I've been starting to focus more on now... Young people?

01:26:26.000 Pardon?

01:26:27.000 I was just guessing, young people?

01:26:29.000 Well, that's a third one that needs to come also, is some sort of mass movement.

01:26:35.000 But maybe prior to that, or simultaneously, it needs to become a religious movement.

01:26:43.000 So I have been speaking more directly on that recently, speaking specifically from a Christian point of view.

01:26:51.000 My Madison lecture, of course, was a more general Question about what religious people in general should do insofar as we share A lot of basic moral values.

01:27:05.000 We're about to break a longer segment coming up.

01:27:07.000 I'd like to give you a chance, David Ray Griffin and Professor Griffin, to elaborate on that.

01:27:12.000 Before we break, though, I recognized four years ago, and have spoken on this, and it's interesting that you've, I'm sure, just parallel to that, from your own instinctual level, came up with this, that 9-11 is a religious-style fable, a religion that is to promote the police state and a centralization of tyranny.

01:27:31.000 And I looked at it as a generational thing, dealing with government-sponsored terror being the touchstone of a leech, that it is important to get the religious leaders off their duffs into that. 0.93

01:27:43.000 So I'm very excited to be able to start learning that you've got a plan.

01:27:49.000 Yeah, and I'm starting already to get an increase in emails from people who are saying, I'm working on contacting churches in this region.

01:27:59.000 What are the resources?

01:28:01.000 So there's a sudden increase in that kind of interest.

01:28:04.000 Because schools, colleges, and primary education, and then the churches themselves really are the center of the community.

01:28:14.000 That's right.

01:28:15.000 So just as in Germany, there was a confessing church movement that said one cannot both be a Christian and a supporter of Nazism, we need to see a similar thing here with Our various religions and American imperialism.

01:28:33.000 I agree.

01:28:34.000 Stay there, sir.

01:28:34.000 We'll come back, get into that and a lot more on the other side.

01:28:39.000 Stay with us.

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01:32:16.000 Welcome back.

01:32:17.000 Professor David Ray Griffin is our guest, and I know that we have Randy in Virginia, Joel in London, England, Fred in Pennsylvania, Doug in Arizona, Chris in Arizona, Sean in New Hampshire, Matthew in North Carolina, and many, many Chris in Arizona, Sean in New Hampshire, Matthew in North Carolina, and many, This new phone system can take, I'm told, like 15 plus calls or more.

01:32:41.000 I guess it'll just continue on and on and on.

01:32:44.000 So we'll try to get to all your calls.

01:32:45.000 Professor Griffin is a gentleman.

01:32:47.000 He's very gracious.

01:32:49.000 He just got back from several speeches and he's going to be with us until the middle of the next hour, so we have plenty of time to take your calls.

01:32:56.000 We will go to calls later in this segment.

01:32:58.000 I appreciate you all being patient.

01:32:59.000 We'll try to go to Joel first because he's on his dime from London, England.

01:33:04.000 Professor Griffin, I don't do this, and I want to get into your religious views on this and how to make a movement in the religious circles where it needs to be.

01:33:12.000 That's the black brigades of the priests and pastors that started the Revolutionary War.

01:33:18.000 They were the heart, the dynamo, the fulcrum, the engine.

01:33:22.000 Same thing against Hitler. 0.59

01:33:23.000 In Heinz Hobel's Order of the Deathshead, a 900-page book I read in high school, it was all the secret Nazi communiques about how their biggest problems in occupied Europe were the Christians.

01:33:33.000 Just like slavery was ended by Christians. 0.99

01:33:36.000 And so much more.

01:33:37.000 It is our jobs to get out there and do this.

01:33:40.000 It's our historical role.

01:33:41.000 I want to speak to that, but I want you to understand, Professor, I do not do this because of ego.

01:33:48.000 The question I'm going to ask you I do this because I have been forced to because of people claiming the mantle of founder, claiming the mantle of leaders, claiming the mantle of forerunners, and then even saying you're a Johnny-come-lately and others.

01:34:04.000 I'm a platform for you and Dr. Bob Bowman and Andres von Bulow and Michael Meacher and David Shaler MI5 agents and Andy Michon MI5 and Dr. Ray McGovern.

01:34:17.000 I'm a platform for all of you who put everything on the line for Charlie Sheen and many others that are going to go public.

01:34:22.000 We are here to defend and survive.

01:34:25.000 I'm in this for the right reason.

01:34:26.000 You're in this for the right reason.

01:34:27.000 When I went on air on 9-11 and said it's an inside job, laid out the facts, when I did it two months before the attack, I lost a lot.

01:34:34.000 I went through a lot.

01:34:36.000 And I did it because I understood what was happening because I was already an expert on government-sponsored terror and had made films about it previous to 9-11.

01:34:44.000 And then I saw other people claiming that they were the leaders, the founders, when it wasn't true.

01:34:48.000 They were poo-pooing involvement for six months, a year.

01:34:52.000 And then now they claim they're the founders and tell us that we've got to get in line, that we've got to subscribe to their orthodoxy, and I see it as very, very dangerous.

01:35:00.000 So I'd like to hear from you, who's researched this, Who do you think first talked about and exposed 9-11?

01:35:05.000 I'd like to hear from you if it matters.

01:35:08.000 Who?

01:35:08.000 Because I don't think it matters that I'm the founder of the 9-11 Truth Movement.

01:35:11.000 It's irritating to me, though, to be the founder of this, to have taken the hits that I'm not going to get into here on air.

01:35:17.000 They were substantial.

01:35:19.000 And then to see others try to position themselves and basically rewrite history, knowing that the foundational view of any movement is a very important position to hold.

01:35:31.000 Well, this is a question that I haven't dealt with.

01:35:35.000 I did mention it in the New Pearl Harbor in a note.

01:35:39.000 I said one problem with the book is that when I cite certain sources, they're not necessarily the original sources for these stories.

01:35:50.000 For example, I appealed heavily to Paul Thompson's work and Nafis Ahmed's work But, you know, they were not founders.

01:36:02.000 They were derivatives.

01:36:03.000 And Paul himself admits that.

01:36:06.000 He got started by Michael Rupert.

01:36:08.000 I know other people got started from you.

01:36:10.000 It's not a question I deal with.

01:36:14.000 I've called myself a Johnny-come-lately.

01:36:16.000 What we need are a lot more.

01:36:19.000 I mean, the way to express our gratitude to people like you and Rupert and

01:36:26.000 uh... others who were there at the forefront is to get a lot more johnny's and uh... valley come lately closer understand i don't have a movement i agree with you professor i don't believe in even matters but other people then try to position themselves as grandpa laws i'm talking about orthodoxy so you agree that that doesn't matter i mean i think it's despicable i mean what is it though the important thing is what are people doing now and uh... my view is that uh...

01:36:54.000 A history of the movement will need to be written, particularly if the movement is successful.

01:37:00.000 And at that stage, the historians can sort out who did what and who got to what first and so on.

01:37:07.000 But at this stage, I think that's a great distraction, I agree with you, and that we ought to just focus on the issues.

01:37:15.000 Let me make clear that I've only addressed this two or three times in the last couple of years on air, only because I've been forced to, sir.

01:37:21.000 It's like pulling teeth for me.

01:37:23.000 Frankly, I don't like being on the radar screen as, you know, as the Moses of this movement.

01:37:29.000 I mean, I like other people.

01:37:30.000 I like lots of other people doing it.

01:37:32.000 And I just think it's disgusting what some other individuals have done.

01:37:37.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I think for the most part we just need to ignore that and keep focusing on the issues and the real enemy.

01:37:46.000 Yeah, this is not about egos.

01:37:49.000 This is about survival.

01:37:50.000 Right.

01:37:50.000 I mean, I wake up at 3 a.m.

01:37:52.000 some mornings covered in sweat realizing we have a terrorist government, realizing we're all in danger.

01:37:57.000 I'm freaked out.

01:37:58.000 I mean, I take this real serious.

01:37:59.000 And I can't believe there's all these prima donna egomaniacs out there running around attacking everyone, saying, you know, my way or the highway. 1.00

01:38:08.000 Yeah, and these questions come up when I'm talking.

01:38:13.000 What do you think about, you know, who are disinformation agents and who are Left gatekeepers and all that.

01:38:21.000 Figure it out for yourself!

01:38:23.000 I just ignore those and, you know, keep trying to focus on the issues.

01:38:29.000 I totally agree, sir, and that's why I've been effective, that's why you've been effective.

01:38:33.000 Give us your view on the theology, how to get in there to the churches, how to use them as their proper designation, as an engine to defend human life and liberty.

01:38:44.000 Well, I think it's very important to see that This 9-11 based imperial stage that we're in now is definitely a religious movement, and one that is diametrically opposed to the basic values of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism... Explain how it's religious, because I agree, I concur, but explain. 0.60

01:39:09.000 Well, it's religious in that religion has to do with having the censure in harmony With the way things really are.

01:39:20.000 I think that's the most generic idea, definition of religion.

01:39:26.000 It's the desire to be in harmony with the way things really are.

01:39:30.000 Now, the way things really are, that can be understood as God, or that can be understood as the movement of history, like from a more Hegelian point of view.

01:39:41.000 And so people who say, well you're just on the wrong side of history, They're making it a religious appeal there, and that's what goes on here.

01:39:51.000 Sometimes they use explicitly the God language.

01:39:55.000 Bush, immediately after 9-11, gave this sermon in the cathedral, in which he consecrated this as a religious movement that God was blessing.

01:40:08.000 And believing the fraud of 9-11 as the foundational event to build this empire out of, which they even admitted in documents previous to the attack they launched, they say they're going to use it as a foundational event, it's almost like a sacrament to just mindlessly not ask questions.

01:40:22.000 That's right, that it's sacrilegious to ask questions.

01:40:26.000 And another feature of religion, unfortunately, most of the time, is that things are supposed to be taken on faith without proof.

01:40:38.000 Now, that's not a characteristic of all religion, as some people mistakenly think, but it is a widespread tendency, and that's what we have here.

01:40:47.000 And I saw an interview the other day by Ed Haas in the Muckraker Report, where he had interviewed Michael Newman, a spokesperson for NIST.

01:41:01.000 The National Institute of Standards and Technology.

01:41:04.000 And Haas was saying, well, you know, we've got all these scientists now who are rejecting the NIST report, and there's this great division in the country between people who believe the official theory and don't.

01:41:15.000 Why don't we just have a public debate between these scientists and get this cleared up?

01:41:20.000 They can't do it.

01:41:21.000 And he said that no scientist from NIST would engage in any public debate with any scientist who reject the NIST report.

01:41:29.000 You just hit the key point.

01:41:30.000 point there.

01:41:30.000 Charlie Sheen said, stop talking about what I did 15 years ago, 20 years ago.

01:41:34.000 Talk about my facts.

01:41:35.000 Challenge me on the facts.

01:41:38.000 I think that should be a slogan for the movement, is challenge us on the facts.

01:41:41.000 Debate us on the facts.

01:41:42.000 Don't use little buzzword religious dogma.

01:41:47.000 That's right.

01:41:48.000 And Showbiz Tonight reported that they tried to get somebody from the government to come on and take on, you know, some representatives.

01:41:58.000 We learned it was Chairman Keene and then he canceled an hour and a half before.

01:42:00.000 Well that was uh... I'm talking about the earlier night when uh... Mike Berger from 911.truth.org was on.

01:42:07.000 Ah yes, yes.

01:42:09.000 They brought on this woman from National Geographic who was completely incapable of speaking uh... 1.00

01:42:17.000 There's authority about it, and evidently they tried to get some spokesperson from the government, and no one would come on, and then as you say, the representative from the Kane Commission backed out at the last minute, so they had to cancel the show with Ed Asner and Sandra Pick.

01:42:34.000 So this is a sure sign, and that's what I raised in this talk, a sure sign that the official story is a myth.

01:42:42.000 In the pejorative sense.

01:42:43.000 Oh, they admitted to me that no one would come on to debate me, and I said, all the better.

01:42:47.000 I can go on and just crush them.

01:42:48.000 I mean, have you ever seen so much info spewed out in two six-minute segments?

01:42:52.000 Have you seen them?

01:42:54.000 Then this is what should make people really suspicious, that nobody from the Kaine Commission, the government, or NIST will come on and defend their official reports.

01:43:04.000 Well, they put that little ringer in up against Berg and others, but they wouldn't get in the ring with me or Ed Asner.

01:43:13.000 No, and this shows you if with their best scientists on their payroll, they're afraid to take on radio talk shows and actors, they're in very bad shape.

01:43:27.000 Well, I agree with you, sir.

01:43:28.000 I mean, it's really good news.

01:43:31.000 And then the last day when they were going to have Asner on, they were going to go the whole week.

01:43:34.000 They were saying, we're getting the highest ratings we've ever had.

01:43:35.000 We're getting thousands of emails an hour, 53,400 plus votes, 83% believing, Sheen, that there's a cover-up of the official story.

01:43:43.000 And they just said, yeah, we can't get anybody to debate you, and now we're not allowed to have anybody on unless somebody's debating.

01:43:48.000 And then they're even saying, just kill the story, period.

01:43:51.000 And it isn't even about ratings anymore.

01:43:54.000 I think maybe this would be a good strategy for the 9-11 Truth Movement to start taunting the government. 0.57

01:44:02.000 Say, come on, defend your account.

01:44:05.000 Defend your account in public against people who are qualified to challenge it.

01:44:10.000 And keep raising that challenge until maybe the mainstream media would say, isn't this peculiar?

01:44:18.000 Yeah, it's like a prize fighter that can't get in any fights because no one will go up against him.

01:44:23.000 Sometimes they've got to get on TV and taunt the opponent.

01:44:27.000 That's right, so maybe your show can be...

01:44:31.000 A forum for that taunting to go on.

01:44:34.000 Well, I've been taunting them for a long time.

01:44:36.000 I mean, I went on C-SPAN and taunted them.

01:44:38.000 I've done thousands of radio interviews and taunted them.

01:44:41.000 And you and I were involved in a national debate on Coast to Coast AM with Lance and others.

01:44:47.000 And I mean, it's just that they had no facts.

01:44:48.000 It was nothing but name-calling.

01:44:51.000 Yeah, but I mean, you know, actual representatives of the government, if they have any confidence in their story, They should have a spokesperson they can send out to debate people whom they consider nutty conspiracy theorists.

01:45:07.000 If they think that we're all so nutty, they could surely show us up in a public debate.

01:45:13.000 Well, I hardly agree with you.

01:45:15.000 Now, another example of this is the fact that the Commission itself wouldn't even face the facts, not even mentioning the support pillars, not even mentioning Building 7.

01:45:26.000 We confronted Chairman Keene, we played the clips yesterday, but we confronted him Friday when he was here north of Austin in Georgetown at Southwestern University, and we said, why didn't you talk about Building 7?

01:45:37.000 He said, oh, we didn't really look at that.

01:45:39.000 That was his answer.

01:45:41.000 Right.

01:45:41.000 Because the FEMA report had already come out saying the best scenario they could come up with to explain the collapse of Building 7 had only a low probability of occurrence.

01:45:54.000 So that's, I think, why the 9-11 Commission did not look at Building 7. 0.97

01:45:58.000 Well, I think Charlie Sheen was also kind of a crap for him.

01:46:02.000 We didn't do this on purpose, but I think it organically developed. 0.98

01:46:05.000 Let me just say something about Mr. Sheen.

01:46:07.000 I'm not kissing up to him.

01:46:08.000 I know a lot of other big Hollywood people, and they're not as informed.

01:46:11.000 They're very informed, but not as informed as Sheen.

01:46:13.000 This guy spends hours a day researching this, and he is so informed.

01:46:20.000 I think they thought in some quarters, the neocon publications, that they could attack him, but then everybody just asked the question.

01:46:26.000 I mean, they'll have blogs on, say, Scripps Hour News Service, With 500 people, and there might be six people out of 500 that disagree with Sheen on the blog of a writer who was attacking Sheen, who then can't address any of his facts, just name calls.

01:46:42.000 So I think it was kind of a trap for the neocons, because they went and attacked Sheen, and they even admit, London Guardian writers and others admit, that it totally blew up in their face.

01:46:51.000 Yeah, and I think these percentages that On CNN, when they ask their viewership, do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the government's covering up the truth, what was it, 82, 83 percent?

01:47:06.000 It hit 86.

01:47:08.000 They pulled it and then claimed it was 83.

01:47:11.000 Yeah.

01:47:12.000 Well, I think it's time for somebody with some deep pockets to sponsor a Zogby poll nationwide asking the question, Do you think our own government orchestrated 9-11?

01:47:27.000 And it would be very interesting to find out what the current state is of that opinion, even though the mainstream media has yet to begin to address it.

01:47:38.000 I think the percentage would be pretty high already.

01:47:41.000 Well, Jimmy Walter says he did a whole other Zogby I didn't know of.

01:47:44.000 He's commissioned too, and he said it got similar numbers.

01:47:48.000 I haven't heard about the second one.

01:47:49.000 He did another one a few months ago, yeah.

01:47:51.000 Well, let's make a few calls, sir.

01:47:54.000 Let's go ahead and take a call here.

01:47:59.000 Let's go ahead and speak with Joel from London, England.

01:48:03.000 Joel on line 9.

01:48:06.000 You're on the air.

01:48:07.000 Thank you so much for coming on with us.

01:48:09.000 Thank you very much for taking my call Alex.

01:48:11.000 It's an absolute pleasure to speak to you and Dr Griffin.

01:48:14.000 I've got two or three very quick points.

01:48:17.000 My first one is to David Rowe Griffin.

01:48:21.000 How do you think it's being covered up if it is?

01:48:24.000 Do you think the establishment are threatening, really threatening a kind of 9-12 if people go public on it.

01:48:30.000 Do you think it's that kind of level of threat being put down?

01:48:35.000 Let me just answer that and then get his take on it.

01:48:37.000 They were already going to carry out more attacks if we hadn't fingered them.

01:48:40.000 Now they're kind of in a catch-22 where they've been so caught, I think they're going to have to have another attack to go into Iran. 0.96

01:48:45.000 David Ray Griffin, answer that and we'll come back and get his next question.

01:48:49.000 Well, I don't know and I don't It's very much into the future because it's so indeterminate.

01:48:57.000 So I don't think I have anything to add to that.

01:49:01.000 Do you think we're in danger of this crowd carrying out more attacks, period?

01:49:05.000 Oh, sure.

01:49:06.000 I think that's a definite danger.

01:49:10.000 But, you know, whether they will do it or not, I don't have any predictions about that.

01:49:14.000 Don't you think it will blow up in their face, literally and figuratively, if they try it?

01:49:19.000 I don't know.

01:49:20.000 The people get so panicked when something like this happens that reason usually does not prevail.

01:49:28.000 For a while though, but it's like a heroin addict.

01:49:30.000 The dose gets bigger and bigger, but the effect gets diminished.

01:49:34.000 Yeah, but the effect lasts long enough to get the next operation going.

01:49:40.000 You're right.

01:49:40.000 You're absolutely right.

01:49:41.000 Joel, you want to add something else?

01:49:44.000 Uh, I just was gonna ask, uh, what's my number?

01:49:49.000 Well, stay there.

01:49:49.000 Stay there.

01:49:50.000 I'll let you finish up from England.

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01:53:15.000 Right now, Let's go ahead and go back to our caller, Joel in London, England.

01:53:22.000 Joel, finish up what you were saying.

01:53:24.000 Yeah, I was just saying that, Alex, because I've noticed in the news you've got Hamilton Keane and the Council on Foreign Relations have been heavily talking up the threat of a new terrorist event.

01:53:34.000 That's very concerning.

01:53:35.000 Yeah, we got him on tape last Friday saying we're going to get nuked, give up all your rights, the internet's bad, biometrics will save you.

01:53:42.000 It's just extraordinary, really, because you can't help but interpret some of that.

01:53:46.000 Is that part of that response to the things with Charlie Sheen and yourself?

01:53:51.000 It's part of their fear-mongering as a bunch of criminal control freaks.

01:53:54.000 David Ray Griffin, comments?

01:53:58.000 Nothing to add.

01:53:59.000 I agree with you.

01:54:01.000 Anything else, Joe?

01:54:03.000 Yeah, one last point is on who I've heard from David Ray Griffith in some of his speeches.

01:54:08.000 He often talks about Philip Delacalle, who's the secret, sort of, not secret, but the executive director of the 9-11 Commission.

01:54:15.000 That's right, isn't it?

01:54:16.000 I mean, there's some extraordinarily disturbing information on this guy.

01:54:19.000 If you go to Wikipedia, I don't know if you've read it.

01:54:21.000 I'm not going to read it all the way through.

01:54:22.000 Well, the whole commission... How it's legislated in public midst and stuff like that.

01:54:26.000 It's just extraordinary.

01:54:26.000 I mean, it's mind-blowing.

01:54:28.000 Well, yeah.

01:54:30.000 I mean, that whole commission had conflicts of interest.

01:54:32.000 Keynes in business with the Bin Laden family.

01:54:35.000 Thanks for the call.

01:54:36.000 Comments on the conflicts of interest with the Keynes Commission, David?

01:54:38.000 Well, yes.

01:54:39.000 Let me add, I've learned a new thing about Philip Zelikow that's just amazing.

01:54:46.000 You know, one of the apparent motives for 9-11 was to get the new doctrine of preemptive warfare, preemptive preventive warfare, accepted, where we could attack other countries even though there was no imminent threat.

01:55:04.000 This doctrine was first enunciated in the National Security Strategy of 2002.

01:55:14.000 There hasn't been much public discussion about who was the author of that.

01:55:17.000 Zelikow.

01:55:18.000 James Mann in Rise of the Vulcans reports that first Richard Haas had written a first draft representing the State Department and Condoleezza Rice looked at it and thought it wasn't bold enough and so she brought in Zelikow to write this.

01:55:36.000 So here you have that prior to becoming Executive Director of the 9-11 Commission, which was supposed to be investigating why the White House allowed these attacks to occur, he's the one who has written their primary ideological doctrine Justifying this greatly increased, increasingly bellicose foreign policy.

01:56:01.000 He's a neocon priest.

01:56:03.000 That's right.

01:56:05.000 Pushing wars of aggression, Hitlerian invasion plans. 0.88

01:56:09.000 That's right.

01:56:10.000 Max Boot had called NSS 2002 a quintessentially neocon document.

01:56:19.000 So this is the guy that's supposedly investigating the Bush administration, someone who holds the most bellicose views.

01:56:32.000 And evidently, according to James Mann and others who've written about this, none of the others like Cheney and Rumsfeld even had to get involved, even though it sounds like their language that they were perfectly content to that representation.

01:56:49.000 Rice and Zelikow handle the writing.

01:56:52.000 Well, exactly, but back to the commission, we asked Chairman Keene Friday in the press conference, we said, this is an independent, Bush appointed you.

01:57:02.000 But he said, ah, yes, but I appointed the others.

01:57:05.000 Well, what does that mean?

01:57:07.000 It's like Hitler appoints Heinrich Himmler and then he appoints the SS deputies. 0.59

01:57:12.000 That's the new meaning of independence.

01:57:14.000 Yeah, and then first they tried to have Dr. Kissinger All right, we've got a few more segments left with our guest.

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01:58:08.000 We're joined by Professor David Ray Griffin.

01:58:12.000 And we're gonna go to your calls.

01:58:15.000 All 11 of them, if we have time before he leaves us.

01:58:18.000 But Professor Griffin, before we go any further, tell us about your two books, tell us about websites, tell us about places to check out your work.

01:58:26.000 Okay, the easiest way for my two books, the new Pearl Harbor and the 9-11 Commission report, Omissions and Distortions, is Amazon.com, but also all good bookstores locally have it.

01:58:44.000 Let me also mention that I've got some new books coming out pretty soon.

01:58:48.000 There's one on Christian faith and the truth behind 9-11, which Westminster John Knox will be publishing in May.

01:58:57.000 They will also be doing a book that Richard Falk and John Cobb and Katherine Keller and I are doing on American Empire and the Commonwealth of God, in which there's some about 9-11.

01:59:12.000 Then there are two books that Interlink is putting out.

01:59:15.000 Peter Dale Scott and I are editing a book called 9-11 and the American Empire.

01:59:19.000 Intellectuals speak out.

01:59:22.000 And Kevin Barrett and John Cobb and Sandra Lubarski, a Jew, a Christian and a Muslim, are editing a book called 9-11 and the American Empire.

01:59:31.000 Christian, Jews and Muslims speak out.

01:59:34.000 So I mention this to reinforce what I said earlier, that both The number of scholars getting involved in this is increasing but also there is going to be a surge of religious writing about 9-11.

01:59:49.000 Now I know we can't reveal a lot on air but there's a lot of other big prominent people that are very close to going public in Hollywood and in government that I know of.

01:59:58.000 You know of a few others and even some other individuals that are very well known.

02:00:04.000 Do you predict or do you have an inkling that any of them will start going public?

02:00:09.000 At this stage I don't know, but it certainly helps because, rightly or wrongly, that's about the only way this movement gets any mainstream attention is if some people in the entertainment business speak out.

02:00:27.000 Because then if the media ignores them, it makes a story of its own, of how are you ignoring this?

02:00:32.000 You'll have top news if one of these people falls off their bicycle or, you know, drinks a beer, but, you know, the huge news like this, they try to ignore it.

02:00:41.000 You know, the media tried to ignore the Sheen thing for a few days, but it just got too big on the web.

02:00:47.000 Yeah, so you can have a physicist come out and say the World Trade Center collapses could not have occurred without Explosive.

02:00:58.000 And for the most part, that's ignored, as if a physicist's word is not very important.

02:01:04.000 But when Charlie Sheen comes out, it gets a lot of attention.

02:01:10.000 Now, that's, you know, I mean, I think that's great that Charlie could do this, and it'll be great if other people can do it, because unfortunately, the way our culture is now, That is about the only way to break through.

02:01:25.000 Well, he knew that.

02:01:26.000 I mean, he did this... Oh, yeah.

02:01:27.000 I mean, he did this selflessly, and then it made me angry to see some of the so-called minority of the 9-11 people criticize him when he did them a huge favor.

02:01:36.000 Yeah, and it was very good that it was somebody who, as you said, had done his homework so that he was making points that other people could then defend.

02:01:47.000 Well, Charlie, I know listens to the rebroadcast of this show.

02:01:49.000 You want to say hi to him?

02:01:51.000 Hey, Charlie.

02:01:52.000 Good work.

02:01:53.000 Keep it up.

02:01:55.000 He's such a great guy.

02:01:57.000 Just really informed.

02:01:59.000 You ought to hear him even when he was great on air.

02:02:01.000 You ought to hear him off air.

02:02:02.000 Oh, boy.

02:02:03.000 He really has done his homework.

02:02:06.000 We're going to break here in a moment and come back and just take a raft of calls.

02:02:10.000 But just to give people kind of a taste, what are a few of the other little tidbits or issues, you know, things you want to talk about when we get back?

02:02:17.000 Okay.

02:02:19.000 Can you just give us an idea of some of the things you might want to mention?

02:02:22.000 Oh, um, well, I could talk a little more about this, uh, about the, uh, the religious side of this.

02:02:30.000 Good, let's do that with Professor David Ray Griffin.

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02:05:53.000 Alright, you've been holding patiently.

02:06:00.000 And we've got, what, 12 calls online.

02:06:03.000 Folks that would like to talk to David Ray Griffin.

02:06:09.000 And right now, we're going to go ahead and go back to your calls.

02:06:13.000 The number to join us is 888-234-4564.

02:06:16.000 We're having to use the backup phone system here because the phone company is back for like the fifth time trying to get it all hooked up to the network.

02:06:25.000 But we're doing it down here.

02:06:27.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Randy in Virginia.

02:06:31.000 And Randy, welcome.

02:06:33.000 You are on the air, sir.

02:06:36.000 Hello, Alex.

02:06:36.000 How are you doing today?

02:06:37.000 Good, sir.

02:06:37.000 Go ahead.

02:06:39.000 I called you a few months ago.

02:06:42.000 I was going to make you a copy of a DVD that's in my local library where the military came here and took over the town back in the 50s.

02:06:49.000 Yes, sir.

02:06:50.000 I made you the copy.

02:06:51.000 I know you keep saying your address, but I can't get it quick enough.

02:06:55.000 3001 South Lamar?

02:06:56.000 Yes, sir.

02:06:57.000 It's 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 787-04.

02:07:05.000 And I'm aware of that historical event.

02:07:07.000 They admitted it was for a martial law takeover drill.

02:07:10.000 Yeah, so I will get that out to you.

02:07:12.000 Now, I do have a question that is really synchronized exactly with what you've been talking about today.

02:07:20.000 I'm a Christian, you're a Christian, we know that the New World Order is totally satanic, which you've covered in your films and stuff.

02:07:29.000 This is something that people don't know, you know, how the New World Order, we know they've captured the mainstream media, for instance, but the average person has no idea about their involvement in the mainstream church.

02:07:40.000 And I don't know if we've covered that.

02:07:43.000 You know, enough to really get that out there.

02:07:44.000 Well, governments, I mean, look at China, look at Russia, they always try to take over and use the churches as their organs, and the neocons have been doing that quite effectively.

02:07:52.000 Do you have a question or comment for our guest?

02:07:55.000 Uh, well, just, you know, maybe he can comment on a few of the, of the way the New World Order is going to have to use, you know, the religious, uh, organized people.

02:08:04.000 Like, look at Pat Robertson. 0.80

02:08:05.000 He's coming out saying we need to kill Chavez. 0.96

02:08:10.000 Great point, sir. 0.65

02:08:11.000 And you can call me back one day when I don't have a guest.

02:08:12.000 We'll spend more time here.

02:08:13.000 Great caller.

02:08:13.000 Sorry to have to cut you off.

02:08:14.000 I'm going to have to move quicker.

02:08:16.000 Yes, with the Faith-Based Initiative and all this, they're trying to pay off the churches.

02:08:19.000 You're saying we need the churches to go back, to default back to their original role of fighting tyranny.

02:08:25.000 David Ray Griffin, who's a professor of theology.

02:08:28.000 Go ahead.

02:08:29.000 Yeah, some points I've been stressing recently.

02:08:33.000 The fact is that Christianity began as an anti-imperial movement.

02:08:39.000 The very image of the symbol of Jesus dying on the cross.

02:08:44.000 The cross was a Roman means of crucifixion.

02:08:47.000 Only Romans could do that. 1.00

02:08:49.000 Throwing Christians to the lions! 1.00

02:08:51.000 Yeah, so Jesus died as a rebel against the Empire. 0.86

02:08:56.000 So that needs to be remembered.

02:08:57.000 The early church was anti-imperialistic, and it's because the values of empire are almost always diametrically opposed to basic religious values.

02:09:08.000 Oh, and by the way, Hitler tried to misinterpret Romans 13 to lay down the government, when the entire Bible says the opposite, and the prophets were almost universally killed for resisting tyranny.

02:09:19.000 Yeah, so I tell you, I've been stressing more the The spiritual nature of this.

02:09:24.000 One factor is just the very way we understand this reality that we call God or use some other term for.

02:09:34.000 Uh, this is a, you know, a life-creating force.

02:09:38.000 That's what the sacred reality of the universe is.

02:09:41.000 Let me bring that up for you.

02:09:42.000 Let me bring up a key question.

02:09:43.000 In fact, I have this in my notes and never had asked it.

02:09:45.000 I mean, if there isn't a dark side and a light side, look at how John Yoo says they can torture people's children sexually in front of their parents.

02:09:53.000 That was a White House top lawyer.

02:09:54.000 And then his commander, the Chief Counsel, went on to be Attorney General, saying they can torture people to death.

02:10:00.000 And then Bush says he's above the law.

02:10:02.000 I mean, this is pure darkness.

02:10:05.000 Cheney running around throwing fits, screaming and cussing at people. 0.53

02:10:08.000 I mean, clearly you can see that they serve those that love death.

02:10:12.000 Yeah, and one of the theological bases for this is a view of the divine reality as primarily a destructive force.

02:10:20.000 So, you know, just with recent tornadoes, one official called it the wrath of God.

02:10:29.000 And when people do that, given the fact that religion has to do with the desire to be in harmony with the ultimate, with the divine reality, they can convince people that by murdering, by slaughtering enemies, that they're somehow in line with the divine reality.

02:10:48.000 But Christ said, suffer the little ones to come unto me, and it'd be better for you to throw yourself in the ocean with a big rock tied around your neck than to hurt some innocent.

02:10:57.000 And these people just love hurting innocents.

02:11:00.000 Yeah, so I would hope that the Christian right would start focusing on the Christian part of that more than the right-wing part because they're using Christianity to justify policies that are diametrically opposed to any basic Christian values or values that are found in all the great religions of the world.

02:11:25.000 Okay, let's go ahead and take another call.

02:11:28.000 Let's speak with Fred in Pennsylvania.

02:11:31.000 Fred, you're on the air.

02:11:32.000 Welcome.

02:11:33.000 Hi.

02:11:34.000 Hi.

02:11:35.000 You should keep the new phone service, Alex, because it's crystal clear on the phone link.

02:11:44.000 I also want to talk about the possibility of everyone getting together and maybe buying a network.

02:11:56.000 Uh, because the media model of broadcasting where you have many receivers at one point over the air...

02:12:04.000 I think it's extremely powerful.

02:12:06.000 What does your guest have to say about that?

02:12:08.000 Well, number one, sir, let's say we had a couple billion dollars.

02:12:10.000 I mean, to buy a network, probably about ten billion bucks.

02:12:13.000 Then the FCC and others would block you and wouldn't even let you do it and claim it was some monopoly.

02:12:17.000 We have that with the Internet.

02:12:19.000 We need to support alternative networks like Genesis.

02:12:22.000 But, you know, I've heard the people out there say, oh, send me a bunch of money and we're going to start a big network, a big TV network, and it doesn't happen.

02:12:28.000 I think the key is at grassroots level.

02:12:30.000 But go ahead, David Ray Griffin.

02:12:33.000 There is an alternative coming on that I don't know much about, but what I've heard thus far sounds pretty promising.

02:12:41.000 It's an independent TV news network called The Real News.

02:12:48.000 And I don't know enough about it to recommend it, but I think it's something worth looking into.

02:12:55.000 Well, certainly as the spectrum of media gets larger and larger, you're going to see hundreds of new little networks forming.

02:13:00.000 It's just that I think that the age of big centralized systems, by the nature of the direction the media is going, are dinosaurs, even Rupert Murdoch.

02:13:10.000 has said that, so I really do appreciate that caller's call.

02:13:14.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to, I guess the next person up is Doug in Arizona.

02:13:22.000 You're on the air Doug.

02:13:23.000 Welcome.

02:13:25.000 Hi Alex.

02:13:26.000 Hey, I love your show.

02:13:27.000 I just, a friend told me about it just a few days ago and I love it.

02:13:31.000 Hey, what I'd like to do is I would like to make a comment about the religious aspect of 9-11.

02:13:35.000 First, Would it be okay to just touch on the subject of illegal immigration and what I feel is really coming?

02:13:44.000 Well, the globalists are publicly using it to break down our sovereignty and drive down wages, and it doesn't help anybody but the elites.

02:13:50.000 But sure, go ahead.

02:13:52.000 Okay.

02:13:53.000 Well, if you check into the UN Charter, they have divided the Earth into ten regions or kingdoms.

02:13:59.000 And they say everybody in those regions is allowed to migrate, yeah.

02:14:03.000 Exactly, so that's what they're doing is they're bringing the Mexican and the Canadians and we're all going to be one in this global, one world government.

02:14:11.000 And what they're going to also do is they've created the problem of the illegal immigrants and that, the only way to solve that problem We'll be to put the injectable ID chips into those folks. 0.99

02:14:22.000 Well, they're certainly trying to use a national ID card as the first step towards that, so I agree with you.

02:14:28.000 Absolutely.

02:14:29.000 I appreciate your call.

02:14:30.000 Debra Rae Griffin, your comment on companies making their employees take chips, the Mexican Attorney General making his employees take chips, is that scary?

02:14:41.000 I try to not speak about things I don't know much about, and that's something I don't know much about.

02:14:45.000 I understand.

02:14:46.000 You stay focused on the issue at hand.

02:14:48.000 Okay, great.

02:14:49.000 Let's go ahead and go to line 10, and let's speak to Chris in Arizona.

02:14:55.000 Chris, you're on the air.

02:14:56.000 Welcome.

02:14:58.000 Hey, Alex.

02:15:00.000 First of all, I just want to thank David Ray Griffin for coming on and doing the interview today.

02:15:05.000 I have to agree with the caller two calls ago that said the phone lines were crystal clear.

02:15:09.000 I've never been able to call in in here so clearly.

02:15:12.000 I wanted to mention, you know, you guys said that nobody would come on and debate you, Alex, or Ed Asner, and the reason for that is because they don't have any Well, I mean, I think that's right.

02:15:26.000 to defend with.

02:15:27.000 They don't have anything to throw back to them.

02:15:29.000 Oh, most of the people on their side know they did it, and they don't want to be under the hot lights knowing that they're part of a murdering operation.

02:15:36.000 Let me get a comment from David Red Griffin on that, David.

02:15:40.000 Well, I mean, I think that's right.

02:15:45.000 I mean, if I were involved in the government, I wouldn't want to go in public and try to defend the story that I knew was false. .

02:15:58.000 So, I mean, their guilt is written all over their faces and by their actions.

02:16:03.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Sean in New Hampshire.

02:16:06.000 Sean, you're on the air with our guest, David Red Riffin.

02:16:09.000 Go ahead, Sean.

02:16:11.000 Hi Alex, it's great talking to you.

02:16:13.000 I've been trying to get on your show for a while.

02:16:15.000 I'm an electrical engineer and I'm also a member of 9-11, a scholar for 9-11, Truth.

02:16:21.000 And one of the things I wanted to point out is what I've been doing individually, I don't have a radio network like you do or something, is I go and I print out stuff from your site and also I Cut CDs, and I pass them out to people individually, and I get the information out... Wonderful.

02:16:40.000 ...hand to hand.

02:16:41.000 I mean, I have cut down literal trees getting the information out to people.

02:16:46.000 And also, too, I buy books by the case and give those out.

02:16:49.000 And I'd like to recommend, too, because a lot of people... There's an army of people like you.

02:16:53.000 There's an army of people like you saving this country and this world, potentially.

02:16:57.000 So, bravo.

02:16:58.000 Go ahead.

02:17:00.000 Uh, one of the things is, uh, one of the books I'd like to recommend in addition to your guest books are The Creature from Jekyll Island, A Second Look at the Federal Reserve, and also something called The Medusophile, We've interviewed him many times.

02:17:17.000 I intend to get him back on in the near future.

02:17:20.000 Thank you so much for the call.

02:17:23.000 Alright, we're going to come back in our final segment with David Ray Griffin and get any final comments from him.

02:17:30.000 We'll take a few more calls and I'll continue in the last 30 minutes taking calls and getting more into this UT professor that wants to kill 90% of us. 0.92

02:17:37.000 We've got a clip of what he had to say as well.

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02:21:59.000 Final segment with David Ray Griffin.

02:22:02.000 Always a great honor to have him with us.

02:22:04.000 Take a few final calls.

02:22:05.000 Mr. Griffin, before we take a few calls and close out here, do you think we're going to win this fight?

02:22:11.000 I know you don't like to project into the future, but it's got to be heartening to see that in major polls, the majority of Americans agree with us, it's an inside job.

02:22:18.000 The global controllers are going to have a big problem as people say, look, the world is round.

02:22:25.000 It ain't flat like you keep trying to tell us.

02:22:28.000 And don't tell us it's religious dogma.

02:22:29.000 We're going to investigate.

02:22:33.000 I really don't know if we're going to win, of course.

02:22:37.000 The future is indeterminate.

02:22:39.000 But at least I have the belief that we have a chance.

02:22:44.000 And so, that's enough to work with.

02:22:47.000 And regardless, we've got to fight and expose these murderers.

02:22:49.000 I mean, their victims, 2,800 plus, deserve that.

02:22:54.000 That's right.

02:22:54.000 Even if you lose, it's important that you fought the good fight.

02:23:00.000 I heartily agree.

02:23:01.000 Let's talk to Matthew, calling us from North Carolina.

02:23:05.000 Matthew, you're on the air.

02:23:07.000 Yeah, hey Alex.

02:23:08.000 Hi.

02:23:09.000 I have a quick question before I get to a comment.

02:23:11.000 Have you discussed this report that came out by the two scholars from Harvard on the power of the Israeli lobby?

02:23:17.000 In the United States?

02:23:18.000 Yes, that's a big AIPAC report, very scholarly, admitting that... Sir, listen, the Communist Chinese have most of our major ports and run security.

02:23:26.000 Customs isn't allowed to investigate.

02:23:28.000 The UAE, you know, 21 ports.

02:23:31.000 Our highways are being taken over by the King of Spain, who owns the company Sentra, to taxes the equivalent of $3 a gallon.

02:23:38.000 I mean, it's just, we're totally being sold out to these international crime syndicates.

02:23:43.000 Any comments on that, David Ray Griffin?

02:23:47.000 I've been on the road and working on speeches and I haven't had a chance to read the Walt Merzheimer piece, but it certainly has evoked enormous controversy and it does suggest that where there's smoke, there's fire.

02:24:07.000 Well, I agree with you and I appreciate the caller's call and I appreciate his important question.

02:24:15.000 Next up is Daniel in Boston.

02:24:18.000 Daniel, you're on the air.

02:24:19.000 Go ahead.

02:24:20.000 Alex, I want to thank you for taking my call.

02:24:22.000 I called you about a few months ago asking about Noam Chomsky and his role as sort of the chief left gatekeeper.

02:24:31.000 He's a real... I've debated him.

02:24:32.000 He's a real piece of work and he just poo-poos everything.

02:24:36.000 Go ahead.

02:24:37.000 Well, listen, I know we're pressed for time.

02:24:39.000 I wanted to say a couple of things.

02:24:40.000 You asked me to write an article to research Professor Chomsky.

02:24:43.000 I've done that, so I'm going to send you that article.

02:24:45.000 I pulled up some of his most-choice quotes here.

02:24:47.000 I just want to read two of them really quickly for Professor David Ray Griffin.

02:24:51.000 On the NORAD stand-down, Professor Chomsky says the following.

02:24:53.000 He says, Whether or not NORAD followed standard operating procedure, I have no idea, and have not investigated the matter.

02:25:00.000 I think the case is very weak and diverts people from the really serious issues.

02:25:04.000 So he says he hasn't investigated it, but we're bad to look at it.

02:25:10.000 Let me stop you there.

02:25:11.000 Professor Griffin, he's out there telling us all to shut up, and it's not an inside job.

02:25:16.000 What do you think of that?

02:25:18.000 Well, it's a complex issue.

02:25:22.000 Noam Chomsky is a great man.

02:25:23.000 He's done so much good.

02:25:27.000 I think we have to say everybody is entitled to a few errors.

02:25:32.000 But he's on the Defense Department payroll.

02:25:34.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:25:35.000 On the other hand, I would say that he's just completely wrong on this.

02:25:41.000 I saw a letter that he had written to someone trying to get him involved in this.

02:25:47.000 And Chomsky, one of his reasons for saying this really wasn't very important.

02:25:54.000 Was that only 3,000 people were killed and far more have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq?

02:26:00.000 Well, of course that's true.

02:26:01.000 But this is the foundation for that!

02:26:03.000 That's right, and that seems so obvious.

02:26:06.000 Um, that, uh, it's just very puzzling.

02:26:09.000 Well, I gotta be honest with you, Professor.

02:26:11.000 I debated him for an hour, and I mean, and I've talked to a lot of professors, a lot of people that are just esteemed and I really respect, like yourself.

02:26:18.000 I mean, I interviewed Nobel laureates in science routinely.

02:26:21.000 This guy, he just didn't know anything.

02:26:23.000 And I'm tired of hearing how smart he is.

02:26:25.000 He's a guy's a joke. 0.61

02:26:26.000 I'm sorry.

02:26:27.000 Well, you can be very smart and be ignorant about certain things that you, as a matter of principle, refuse to investigate, and that seems to be his attitude here, because he has a view that's called structuralism, that leads him to believe that the government simply wouldn't do this sort of thing because they don't need to, and he thinks that people who are involved in talking about conspiracy are individualists.

02:26:54.000 So he has a principle reason for doing it.

02:26:57.000 I just happen to think he's wrong.

02:26:59.000 But as you say, it is religious in that I choose not to believe it so I don't look at it, but then I tell you you're wrong without looking at it.

02:27:06.000 David Ray Griffin, I want to thank you for joining us.

02:27:08.000 Stay there, caller.

02:27:09.000 I'm going to let you finish up on Chomsky on the other side.

02:27:11.000 We've got a lot of other news to cover and we'll talk to Casey and Brandon and Tim and others.

02:27:16.000 But Professor Griffin, thank you so much, sir.

02:27:19.000 You're welcome, Alex.

02:27:20.000 Keep it up.

02:27:21.000 We'll talk to you in the very near future.

02:27:22.000 I'd like to talk to you off-air for just a second.

02:27:24.000 And so, just Godspeed, and we'll see you in the future.

02:27:27.000 Okay.

02:27:35.000 We're on the march.

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02:30:41.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:30:55.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:31:00.000 Alright, folks.

02:31:02.000 I'm gonna take four or five, maybe even more calls.

02:31:07.000 And I want to spend about five minutes at least just recapping and adding some more data to this Professor Death, this pianka, who says 90% of us need to die or die now, and how that ties into the globalist operation here in just a few minutes. 0.83

02:31:19.000 But I was listening on the radio the other day and heard an old Guns N' Roses song, and it talks about how when Kennedy got killed, you know, when I learned the truth, you know, basically woke me up and then made me kind of go into my shell.

02:31:33.000 It talks about how the government's committing genocide basically against us and how it's the people against the government.

02:31:39.000 I mean, there's so many of these songs out there that we just kind of ignore and glaze over.

02:31:43.000 So here's a song from the, I guess, late 80s, early 90s, I forget.

02:31:48.000 But I thought I'd roll at least part of this song.

02:31:50.000 So here it is.

02:31:51.000 What we've got here is failure to communicate.

02:32:03.000 Some man you just can't reach.

02:32:07.000 No use getting what we had here last week.

02:32:10.000 Which is the way he wants.

02:32:12.000 Well, he is.

02:32:13.000 I don't like him anymore.

02:32:19.000 Look at your young man fighting.

02:32:31.000 Look at your women crying. 1.00

02:32:33.000 Look at your young men dying.

02:32:37.000 The way they've always done before To look at the hate we're breathing Look at the fear we're feeding.

02:33:01.000 Look at the lives we're leading.

02:33:04.000 The way we've always done before I am tonight A billion gifts from side to side And the walls go on, we'll bring more pride For the love of God and I win right And all these things are swept at night

02:33:32.000 Where bloody hell, time can't deny And I'm washed away by a genocide And history hides the lives of all civil wars 0.91

02:34:00.000 And the black on men when they shot the men who sick Peace to the world, time can't deny And the black on men when they shot the men who sick Peace to the world, time can't deny And the black on men when they shot the men who sick Peace could last forever. 0.98

02:34:24.000 I think my first memories, they shot Kennedy. 0.98

02:34:28.000 I went numb when I learned to see.

02:34:31.000 So I never fell for freedom.

02:34:34.000 We got the wall of deceit to remind us all.

02:34:38.000 That you can't trust freedom when it's not in your hands When everybody's fighting for the promised land I don't need a civil war Exceeds the rig while it measures the war Your power is always so good enough You and your soul restore your death breath

02:35:06.000 I don't need a civil war Welcome back All right, well, it's Guns N' Roses and Roses.

02:35:19.000 The name of that song is Civil War.

02:35:21.000 It's part of it.

02:35:21.000 It goes on.

02:35:22.000 I was writing notes during it.

02:35:25.000 Brainwash masses for the love of God and civil rights.

02:35:29.000 Wake up.

02:35:30.000 Look at the hate.

02:35:31.000 Look at the fear we're breeding.

02:35:34.000 When he learned about the men who shot Kennedy, the men, plural.

02:35:38.000 When he learned the scene, he went numb.

02:35:40.000 I mean, it goes on and on.

02:35:42.000 And it's just about the New World Order and the government waging war against the people.

02:35:47.000 And we all instinctively know this.

02:35:49.000 We all instinctively understand that, unless we're on the Defense Department MIT payroll, like Noam Chomsky.

02:35:55.000 Okay, I believe it was Daniel in Boston that was bringing that up.

02:35:59.000 Let's try to go back to him and see if he's still there.

02:36:01.000 Daniel, you want to finish up your comments?

02:36:04.000 Alex, I'm here and I want to thank you for giving me time on the other end.

02:36:07.000 I'm going to try to fit in a couple quotes about Professor Chomsky.

02:36:09.000 This is all part of the article that I'm going to send you today.

02:36:13.000 Send it to Ryan at InfoWars.com.

02:36:15.000 Send it to Paul over on the present planet via email to make sure we get it posted.

02:36:21.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:36:22.000 So let me read a couple of choice quotes.

02:36:23.000 And I want to make it clear that one thing if Noam Chomsky were to say, well, some of these points are controversial, I have yet to investigate them, but it's beyond that.

02:36:30.000 Well, let me just add this.

02:36:32.000 A lot of people attack me on the web because I, five years ago or so, attacked him when he was on the show. 0.96

02:36:38.000 Because the guy was full of baloney.

02:36:40.000 I mean, I really know my facts. 0.96

02:36:42.000 And he was intellectually dishonest, and they worship him when he gives these speeches.

02:36:46.000 He only gives people half the paradigm, and he knows exactly what he's doing.

02:36:50.000 The guy is bad news.

02:36:51.000 So go ahead.

02:36:52.000 Well, listen, I'm a college student, so I've encountered this.

02:36:55.000 I know that most of the social activists have been brainwashed by these left gatekeepers who know exactly what they're doing.

02:37:00.000 So let me read you a quote here by the professor.

02:37:02.000 He says, on 9-11, he says, if the left spends any time on this, that's the end of the left, in my opinion.

02:37:08.000 The mainstream would be utterly delighted.

02:37:10.000 It is highly unlikely that anything significant will be found.

02:37:13.000 And if it is, which I greatly doubt something's found, which would quickly send everyone in Washington In Washington, the death chamber, the left is unlikely to emerge triumphant on Operation Northwood thesis.

02:37:26.000 Operation Northwood is only one of the many examples for being skeptical about your theory.

02:37:30.000 It doesn't even come close.

02:37:31.000 It was not carried out.

02:37:33.000 It's nothing empirical is impossible. 0.96

02:37:35.000 Thus, it's conceivable that everyone in the White House is totally insane.

02:37:38.000 And in my opinion, it would have had to have been to try something that would have very likely turned into an utter fiasco and a sudden miracle could have succeeded.

02:37:48.000 Well, your cell phone cut out, sir.

02:37:51.000 I appreciate your call.

02:37:51.000 Yeah, I've read most of that.

02:37:53.000 I've seen the stuff he puts out.

02:37:55.000 And, I mean, what do you say to that?

02:37:58.000 What do you say to that?

02:37:59.000 Operation Northwoods was an operational plan, not some war game that they tried to greenlight that was almost executed.

02:38:05.000 It was greenlighted by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to go operational.

02:38:10.000 Okay?

02:38:12.000 That's like if I decide to go rob the bank and I'm about to walk in the door with a gun and a cop walks over and stops me.

02:38:17.000 And that was Kennedy.

02:38:20.000 Still, I'm going to go to prison for attempted bank robbery.

02:38:23.000 And that plan got nixed.

02:38:25.000 And then you've got the executional plans.

02:38:27.000 Ajax in Iran, admitted, declassified.

02:38:31.000 Gulf of Tonkin staged.

02:38:33.000 We have the USS Liberty executed, which is right out of Northwoods.

02:38:36.000 Blowing up ships, blaming it on people.

02:38:39.000 Mass shootings, bombings, how to blame Patsy's.

02:38:42.000 Yeah, and then Chomsky just hopes you don't read it.

02:38:44.000 Look, I don't just sit here and attack him for no reason. 1.00

02:38:46.000 The guy's a piece of trash. 1.00

02:38:48.000 He's a sniveling joke. 1.00

02:38:49.000 He's not even smart. 0.95

02:38:50.000 There are other professors exposing the globalists that are a hundred times better.

02:38:54.000 He believes in globalism.

02:38:55.000 He says the UN's going to save us when it's bankrolled by the very same corporations.

02:38:59.000 He knows that.

02:39:00.000 Chomsky's a joke.

02:39:02.000 I'm tired of these people. 0.78

02:39:05.000 Now you're getting me really mad. 0.98

02:39:06.000 He is so arrogant when he speaks. 0.85

02:39:09.000 He is on such a power trip. 0.81

02:39:10.000 And a lot of people take that arrogant smacking and that authoritativeness as intelligence.

02:39:16.000 We see it by the peak oil people on the 9-11 side of the debate.

02:39:18.000 We need to get rid of billions and stop talking about 9-11.

02:39:26.000 Let's go ahead here and just take a few more calls.

02:39:29.000 I'll just try to cover some other news.

02:39:30.000 Tim, in New York City, you're on the air.

02:39:34.000 Oh, sorry.

02:39:37.000 It's upstate New York.

02:39:38.000 I listen to you on the Sunshine Radio Network, and Dr. Wolfe is the one who brought me to life.

02:39:44.000 We need to understand about the incorporated church that is keeping the people quiet. 0.90

02:39:51.000 They can't talk about politics, and someday you need to look at a show on that.

02:39:56.000 But, number one, this is my reason for calling.

02:39:59.000 Uh, there's a place called The Little Theater in Rochester, New York.

02:40:03.000 I am sponsoring Showing Loose Change 2 on April 18th at 7pm.

02:40:10.000 Great!

02:40:10.000 We're getting, well I rented the theater.

02:40:13.000 Where is that?

02:40:14.000 It's in downtown Rochester at 240 East Avenue.

02:40:16.000 Excellent!

02:40:16.000 It's in downtown Rochester at 240 East Avenue.

02:40:22.000 Excellent.

02:40:22.000 Right in downtown Rochester.

02:40:24.000 Excellent.

02:40:25.000 So we're going to try and we need to get people out there to support us because we want to do this more.

02:40:30.000 We're looking every two to three weeks at getting a film on.

02:40:33.000 Good.

02:40:35.000 I hope you'll show Marshall Law or Road to Journey sometime.

02:40:40.000 Road to Tyranny is the next one on the list, if we can get people to come out and support us.

02:40:44.000 Good, good.

02:40:45.000 Alright, well listen, I really appreciate your call, and it's exciting to hear that stuff's going on.

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02:41:31.000 Okay, and I'm sorry I'm moving quicker, but I've got to cover some news here in just a minute that I haven't detailed enough.

02:41:37.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Cliff in Utah.

02:41:40.000 Cliff, you're on the air.

02:41:42.000 How you doing there, Alex?

02:41:43.000 I've been in this fight with you a long time, and I'd like to say something real fast.

02:41:48.000 I think everybody, all the lonely patriots out there, ought to buy two tickets to the National Lottery, and if one of us wins, we need to sue the New World Order, because they're on record now, the Bush Administration, and start a bunch of private radio stations to spread the word.

02:42:03.000 Well, that's interesting, sir.

02:42:04.000 You know, I'm not a fan of gambling, but it is funny.

02:42:07.000 I mean, it is an interesting idea.

02:42:10.000 I'm not either, Alex.

02:42:11.000 In fact, I don't gamble, but I'm sure gonna try this.

02:42:14.000 And, uh, if everybody just buy two tickets, all us lonely patriots out here...

02:42:19.000 And one of us that happened to win, we could get this thing over with real quick like, and I'm sure going to try.

02:42:24.000 All right, sir, I hear you.

02:42:26.000 That's an interesting idea.

02:42:27.000 I appreciate that call.

02:42:29.000 But you know, that sits on hitting the jackpot, or sits on that idea of beating them all at once, and that kind of rests on the idea of then having luck to win the lottery.

02:42:40.000 And I believe most lotteries are staged.

02:42:43.000 Let me get something straight here.

02:42:45.000 Maybe once a year, I do it every weekend if I could, you know, I love a poker game.

02:42:50.000 Nothing wrong with going and betting a few dollars or piles of quarters just to make it fun.

02:42:56.000 The reason I don't like gambling is that I line up to try to buy milk, say, at 10 o'clock at night on a Friday night because my wife calls me and says, bring some milk home, honey.

02:43:04.000 And I see all these poor people lined up buying tickets.

02:43:06.000 They buy three or four and they go, oh, I've got to have three or four more.

02:43:09.000 And they scratch those and come back in.

02:43:10.000 And you just see that while you're gassing your car up or whatever.

02:43:13.000 You can witness it.

02:43:15.000 And there might be five, ten people, sometimes twenty if it's the big lottery night, lined up just hoping above all hope they're going to win.

02:43:23.000 Whereas they took that money and invested it in a little business.

02:43:26.000 Maybe a tire repair place, or cleaning people's windshields and invested it over the years, or mowing lawns and got enough money to hire a few helpers.

02:43:36.000 They could end up living in a $200,000 house and going on vacation, putting their kids through college.

02:43:39.000 I've got a lot of friends that got degrees and they run lawn companies now.

02:43:45.000 They run lawn companies now and make good living.

02:43:48.000 But instead, my problem is it hits the poor.

02:43:51.000 Hey, you've got millions of dollars, you want to go gamble?

02:43:55.000 I mean, that's basically what fishing is.

02:43:56.000 Humans like that.

02:43:58.000 We like throwing the spear and seeing if we hit the monkey and we get to eat it or whatever.

02:44:02.000 Or, you know, hit the bird.

02:44:03.000 That's what's so much fun about bass fishing.

02:44:06.000 You're kind of gambling, but you're using some skill.

02:44:08.000 And where are the fish?

02:44:08.000 Are you going to get it?

02:44:11.000 They found that gambling manipulates a key enzyme in the brain.

02:44:14.000 So it's a very natural thing.

02:44:15.000 It's very destructive.

02:44:16.000 I mean, look at the Romans playing dice over Christ's cloak. 0.84

02:44:20.000 I remember one time, there's a casino right down the road from where the network was based in Minnesota, an Indian Casino, and that was the cheapest hotel that was nice, put me in, so Ted Anderson put me up and out with my wife, and I waddled on downstairs and I got, you know, I play a little blackjack, my wife won, but I just keep playing because I'm not saying, you know, like, oh my gosh, if you gamble, you're going to go to hell, it's just, it's really destructive and bad.

02:44:43.000 And I see our whole economy kind of switching over to this.

02:44:51.000 I just don't know what to say about it.

02:44:56.000 It's just, there's tried and true ways to make money, and if you knew the statistics of winning the lottery, and then if you knew the fraud involved with it, I mean, it's been proven, it's state by state, it's a mafia thing, and it's just a joke.

02:45:08.000 Okay, I've said enough, I'm just going to take two more calls, because, let's just jam through them quickly, we'll see how many we get to.

02:45:15.000 Robert in Texas, you're on the air, Robert, go ahead.

02:45:17.000 Hi Alex, first time caller.

02:45:19.000 Welcome sir.

02:45:22.000 I just wanted to let you know that there's a website called archive.org and you might be able to find the stuff that CIA took down on that website.

02:45:30.000 They pretty much back up the entire internet.

02:45:33.000 Oh I know and they've got a whole bunch of my films up there too.

02:45:37.000 Okay, and the only other thing I wanted to say was that this weekend, a little bit west of Austin, is a big festival in Dripping Springs, Texas.

02:45:45.000 And I was going to pass out some flyers to do, you know, to promote you, but I don't know what exactly I should put on them.

02:45:51.000 Do you have something on your site that I could... I got an idea!

02:45:55.000 Get a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, or if you have any of my original DVDs, because they're higher quality, burn 50 copies of that.

02:46:01.000 Cost you about 50 bucks or less and hand those out with just learn the truth about 9-11.

02:46:05.000 That'll be the most effective thing you can do, sir.

02:46:07.000 And it's really great hearing from you.

02:46:09.000 I'm sorry I'm having to move so quick.

02:46:11.000 Jason in California.

02:46:13.000 Go ahead, Jason.

02:46:15.000 Yeah, hi.

02:46:15.000 I just have some questions.

02:46:16.000 I've been reading the reopened 9-11 website and their theories on the blue screen.

02:46:27.000 I totally disagree with that and it's a red herring and very destructive and not based on reality.

02:46:31.000 Blue screens, holograms, give me a break. 0.96

02:46:33.000 But, you know, I don't spend my time attacking those ridiculous theories. 0.91

02:46:36.000 I just ignore it.

02:46:37.000 I cover the real things we can follow and document.

02:46:41.000 Thank you.

02:46:42.000 Thank you.

02:46:42.000 You've got to really, really watch it.

02:46:45.000 Last caller, let's talk to Sean in New Hampshire.

02:46:48.000 Sean, you're on the air.

02:46:49.000 Go ahead.

02:46:50.000 Hi Alex, I wanted to mention real quick, I didn't get to mention it before, I have in my hands the metallurgical analysis done by Dr. Frank Gale, and I passed that out, and I've emailed that to you, I wish you could put it on your site.

02:47:04.000 Well we have an underwater laboratories engineer that looked at it saying it's impossible, and it's made up to.

02:47:09.000 They are underwrote the building.

02:47:11.000 And you can see the electromicrographs of the steel and know that none of the steel got above the temperature of an ordinary commercial oven.

02:47:22.000 Okay, so therefore... Yeah, why doesn't the oven melt?

02:47:25.000 Exactly.

02:47:28.000 Yeah, exactly, and the temperatures that the steel did reach were more than a thousand degrees short centigrade.

02:47:37.000 Of even reddening?

02:47:38.000 Of having the steel weakened from temperature.

02:47:40.000 Yeah, of reddening to just become somewhat elastic, meaning you could maybe beat it into shape with a large hammer.

02:47:48.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:47:50.000 And also, too, the architectural requirements for that is the theoretical, the actual maximum load for a floor was one-sixth of the theoretical according to the engineering standards.

02:48:04.000 Sir, we know they blew up Tower 1 and 2, and they certainly blew up 7 way down the street that was only hit by some dust.

02:48:11.000 Yes, and appendix, section 8 of appendix C of the FEMA report says that there is severe oxidation and sulfidication of the steel, which is an unusual event for the fire, and of course it's entirely ignored, and that can only be produced by RDX or a thermite explosive that is meant to take out steel.

02:48:30.000 Exactly.

02:48:30.000 But forget the facts, they can't debate us on those, so they won't.

02:48:36.000 They blew that building up right in front of you.

02:48:38.000 They overreached.

02:48:39.000 We're going to defeat them!

02:48:41.000 We're going to bring them to justice!

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02:51:40.000 As promised, here is Dr. Pianca, the local Whitewash newscast.

02:51:49.000 She didn't really mean it.

02:51:51.000 Here it is.

02:51:53.000 This is your news at 6.

02:51:56.000 Well, reports of a University of Texas scientist's plans for mass extermination of the human race got our attention today.

02:52:03.000 So, tonight we're getting to the bottom of a controversial theory that is spawning death threats on campus and controversy across the country.

02:52:11.000 K-10's Rich Parsons is live at UT with more Rich.

02:52:15.000 Rochelle, this has been the buzz around campus all day.

02:52:17.000 Some are accusing a UT professor of advocating genocide as a way to control the world's population.

02:52:23.000 Sound crazy?

02:52:24.000 Well, the professor, whose ideas are under scrutiny, says, yeah, it sounds crazy, because it's not true.

02:52:31.000 Well, let's see if I can see if there's another... Dr. Eric Pionka does not want everyone on Earth dead.

02:52:37.000 I don't bear any ill will towards anybody.

02:52:40.000 But many do bear ill will towards this soft-spoken University of Texas ecologist.

02:52:45.000 I've got a really great death threat.

02:52:46.000 He's getting death threats like this one threatening the slaughter of his family after recent speeches pushing for population control.

02:52:54.000 If we don't control our population, microbes will. 0.98

02:52:59.000 Why do we have these lethal microbes that kill humans in the first place? 0.75

02:53:04.000 The answer is there's too many of us.

02:53:06.000 Dr. Bianca says he would never advocate genocide or extermination like some suggest he does.

02:53:12.000 I've got two granddaughters, man.

02:53:15.000 I'm putting money in a college fund for my granddaughters.

02:53:18.000 I'm worried about him.

02:53:20.000 He believes criticism of his theory about an inevitable plague on mankind comes from a rival.

02:53:26.000 Jealous about his Distinguished Scientist Award from the Texas Academy of Science.

02:53:31.000 He's an avowed enemy and he's made this very clear that he's going to get me and take me down.

02:53:36.000 But Dr. Pianca has the full backing of UT behind him, as radical as his ideas may seem.

02:53:42.000 We have a lot of different points of view on the University of Texas at Austin campus, and we certainly support our faculty in saying what they think.

02:53:52.000 After 50 years of ecological study and authoring nearly 20 books, Dr. Pianca thinks the world's in trouble And just wants everyone to know.

02:54:00.000 We're taking over the earth and not leaving anything for anything else.

02:54:03.000 That's enough.

02:54:04.000 We're out of time.

02:54:05.000 I'll play the rest tomorrow.

02:54:06.000 And by the way, the transcripts of his speeches where he did say all of this are now available.

02:54:11.000 And recordings are now available.

02:54:13.000 And these are going out.

02:54:15.000 And major newspapers and scientific papers are reporting that he got a 95% standing ovation.

02:54:22.000 He did say 90% of us need to die.

02:54:25.000 He did say Ebola is ideal. 1.00

02:54:28.000 He did tell people to turn their cameras off and not to tape it because the world isn't ready.

02:54:32.000 You can hear his tremulous voice of that creature as he's freaking out as people learn what he's pushing.

02:54:38.000 And he's pushing the same thing the government's pushing.

02:54:40.000 Go read our analysis at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:54:44.000 He is trying to backpedal.

02:54:46.000 And there are prestigious reports and eyewitnesses and multiple scientists filing official complaints with him over what he said.

02:54:52.000 And the chairman of the Environmental Sciences Division of the Texas Academy of Scientists, who was there and is on the board, is one of our witnesses, but now we have the tapes.

02:55:02.000 He was in the Statesman Saturday with his Ebola plush toy saying how great it would be.

02:55:07.000 But when the light gets shined on these cockroaches, they freak out.

02:55:11.000 And I guarantee you those emails said things like, Hey, if it's so great, how about your family?

02:55:15.000 That isn't a death threat.

02:55:17.000 It's just like the Scripps Hour News Service claimed I sent her an email calling her a whore, and then I made Scripps Hour News Service retract it because it turned out they looked at it and it wasn't even true.

02:55:27.000 Made up. 0.93

02:55:28.000 Straw man attacks.

02:55:29.000 I guarantee you the emails he's getting are, Hey, if it's such a great idea, how about you go?

02:55:34.000 Oh, but no, they know best.

02:55:36.000 They're the guardians.

02:55:37.000 They're the 10%. 0.97

02:55:38.000 He says he, quote, loves the police state of China.

02:55:40.000 Wants us to have a one-child policy. 0.93

02:55:43.000 We're gonna expose this guy.

02:55:45.000 Guaranteed.

02:55:46.000 You hear that sickening apology piece in the local news?

02:55:48.000 They're like the 95% that stood up and applauded him.

02:55:51.000 You see how many of them there are?

02:55:53.000 You see what we're up against?

02:55:55.000 You see what we're facing? 1.00

02:55:58.000 Like the UT professor who says kill all the whites. 1.00

02:56:01.000 That's a quote. 1.00

02:56:01.000 We must kill the gringo. 1.00

02:56:03.000 We must implement the plan of San Diego, and then it's like, well, he's allowed to have his views, and you're misinterpreting them! 1.00

02:56:09.000 Mr. Gutierrez!

02:56:13.000 Powerful broadcast.

02:56:14.000 Great having you on board with us.

02:56:16.000 Great being here.

02:56:17.000 Get out there and fight these people! 0.99

02:56:19.000 Fight these control freaks! 1.00

02:56:20.000 Defeat them! 0.86

02:56:21.000 God bless you all!

02:56:22.000 Present Planet on TV!

Alex Jones Show - April 11, 2006

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