Alex Jones Show - 20060414_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Coming up in the next hour, joining us from Europe is Dr. Daniel Ganser. - He's an expert in geo-strategy and security, secret warfare, business and human rights, peace research, and of course, I can't even tell you about some of his titles and some of the work he does as a condition of the interviews.

00:00:46.000 I mean, that's how high level this gentleman is.

00:00:50.000 And he's written a book several years ago, NATO's Secret Army, Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe.

00:00:59.000 Contemporary Security Studies, paperback.

00:01:02.000 We'll be getting into his book today.

00:01:06.000 Operation Gladio.

00:01:08.000 Western governments carrying out terror attacks, staging terror attacks, hiring provocateurs, you name it.

00:01:14.000 It's all coming up in the second hour.

00:01:19.000 In the meantime, our plate is extremely full on this live Friday edition.

00:01:25.000 UK soldier jailed for refusing to go to Iraq.

00:01:31.000 The doctor, RFA doctor, jailed for refusal to go to Iraq.

00:01:39.000 And we'll get into this report and some of the quotes and some of the things that he is saying.

00:01:44.000 Royal Air Force doctor arrested, tried, convicted.

00:01:49.000 He's going to spend, what, eight months in the stockade.

00:01:53.000 Also, Texas stops arresting drunks in bars.

00:01:57.000 Operation Last Call program suspended after public outcry.

00:02:01.000 This is good news, showing that standing up against the insane police state can have an effect, but it dovetails with the police before someone had even been indicted or tried for drug charges, trying to rip their gold caps out of their teeth.

00:02:17.000 I mean, again, in Nazi Germany, they waited until you were dead to do such things.

00:02:22.000 And then we have other police state activities I want to cover.

00:02:24.000 Random weapon scans in New York City schools.

00:02:27.000 More Britons have DNA held by police in the rest of the world.

00:02:31.000 And how it dovetails with several other reports.

00:02:34.000 New developments with all the illegal aliens and the staged protests and demonstrations around the country. 0.99

00:02:42.000 We'll be getting into that and we'll open the phones up for you to join us on air.

00:02:49.000 Early in this first hour, as we did yesterday.

00:02:53.000 Any news item, any story, any issue, any question, any comment, whatever you'd like to discuss, 1-800-259-9231, 1-800-259-9231, and we'll get you up and on the air.

00:03:03.000 259-9231, 1-800-259-9231, and we'll get you up and on the air.

00:03:12.000 By the way, I'm very proud of two websites that don't get enough promotion, and that's jonesreport.com that we developed five years ago and just let sit there for future development.

00:03:25.000 Now has been updated daily for about a month or a little less than a month and it's got a lot of original material on it.

00:03:32.000 It's also a quick download page.

00:03:34.000 It's not as big or hard to download as some of our other juggernaut websites like Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

00:03:43.000 And it's got a lot of original materials and reports that originate solely from its ISP, its domain registry number and its ISP.

00:03:56.000 So it's all there for you at JonesReport.com and also InfoWars.net run by Steve Watson and Dwayne Coogs.

00:04:02.000 It's excellent and has a lot of reports weekly that originate directly from it that are exclusive, I should say.

00:04:09.000 to InfoWars.net.

00:04:10.000 We're very proud of the work of Steve Watson as well, so be sure and check that out.

00:04:16.000 There's going to be some big new 9-11 developments this weekend.

00:04:23.000 I can't tell you what those developments are going to be, but you can tell I get pleasure out of lancing the New World Order boils, and this is definitely a big lancing that's going to happen.

00:04:34.000 I enjoy exposing corruption.

00:04:36.000 It is my opiate.

00:04:38.000 It is my love.

00:04:41.000 I'm in love with the truth.

00:04:43.000 I'm in love with smashing the New World Order.

00:04:46.000 And I know you share that same love.

00:04:49.000 Almost, almost lust, but that's not a good word to use for it.

00:04:53.000 That's the feeling I have.

00:04:55.000 A lust.

00:04:56.000 A burning desire for the truth.

00:05:01.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

00:05:03.000 And the behavior of our police is a reflection of our government.

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00:05:18.000 A civil emergency was created by the police.

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00:05:28.000 You see them here with their hands cupped behind their backs.

00:05:32.000 They are being led into the Sandpoint Brig.

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00:08:07.000 Mama.

00:08:22.000 Thank you.

00:08:24.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the second segment.

00:08:28.000 We're now into the Friday edition.

00:08:32.000 Dr. Daniel Ganzer will be joining us coming up in the next hour to talk about U.S.

00:08:39.000 government and European terror attacks from the 1950s, 60s, 70s into the 80s crowned by things like the Bologna bombing killing over a hundred people that were blamed on their political enemies.

00:08:51.000 That's coming up in the next hour.

00:08:55.000 Let me just plunge right into the news right now.

00:09:00.000 UK soldier jailed for refusing to go to Iraq.

00:09:03.000 A British Air Force doctor who refused to go to Iraq was jailed for eight months on Thursday after being found guilty by a court-martial of disobeying orders.

00:09:12.000 Australian-born Malcolm Kendall Smith refused to go to Iraq in 2005, arguing the war was a crime.

00:09:20.000 The judge ruled that the British presence in Iraq was legal and told the five officer panel acting as a jury to ignore the officer's arguments.

00:09:28.000 The case is the first of its kind in Britain over the war in Iraq.

00:09:33.000 Sat motionless as the president of the panel pronounced him guilty of five counts, one for refusing to go to Iraq and four for refusing to train and prepare.

00:09:44.000 Kendall Smith's lawyer Phillip Samsford described him to the court as a man of great moral courage.

00:09:51.000 And I would add to this that we were in contact with his lawyer yesterday and trying to get Can't get him on.

00:10:01.000 Can't get Mr. Smith on.

00:10:02.000 He's in the stockade.

00:10:03.000 But get his lawyer on.

00:10:04.000 And if it doesn't happen in the third hour today, it should be happening sometime early for you next week.

00:10:10.000 And I'm looking for it.

00:10:11.000 I printed this.

00:10:13.000 It was a second and third page.

00:10:16.000 And I don't see his comments.

00:10:17.000 I guess you've got to love printers sometimes.

00:10:19.000 Because when you print, it'll print just the first page.

00:10:22.000 I should have noticed that.

00:10:23.000 People say, well, then why are you using a printer, buddy?

00:10:25.000 You've got a computer.

00:10:27.000 Because if you try to skip around between sometimes a hundred stories on the computer, the computer will freeze up or you can't get to your document in the stack as we call it in talk radio.

00:10:38.000 But, oh, I think I printed it twice.

00:10:42.000 So let me now bumble about here on air and get to it.

00:10:49.000 I think I did find his quotes.

00:10:50.000 Kendall told the military hearing that he refused to serve in Basra, Iraq last July because he did not want to be complicit with an act of aggression contrary to international law.

00:11:01.000 He said, I have evidence that the Americans were on par with Nazi Germany with his actions in the Persian Gulf.

00:11:06.000 I have documents in my possession which support my Assertions, this is on the basis of that, on ongoing acts of aggression in Iraq and systematically applied war crimes provide a moral equivalent between the US and Nazi Germany. 0.70

00:11:21.000 And then he went on to say, I paraphrase, I'm having trouble finding it, he said the Ministry of Defense's actions in convicting me only reaffirm what I already knew and that he is basically very pleased now to serve eight months in prison for what he believes in.

00:11:42.000 So, let me just dovetail this with what happened three weeks ago.

00:11:48.000 One of the top men, he's an officer, in special air services for decades, as highly decorated as it gets, with the highest marks the BBC reported, and the London Telegraph reported, we wrote articles about it, that you can get.

00:12:06.000 He is a soldier's soldier.

00:12:09.000 Contrary to what you hear, the Mossad are not the best.

00:12:12.000 The Delta Force is not the best.

00:12:14.000 The Navy SEALs are not the best.

00:12:16.000 They are all modeled off of SAS.

00:12:19.000 And I've actually studied Special Forces history.

00:12:22.000 I have a lot of friends in Special Forces.

00:12:24.000 They will tell you no one has the success rate of Special Air Services.

00:12:28.000 They are the best.

00:12:30.000 It's basically a bunch of military James Bonds is what they are.

00:12:35.000 And then the James Bond type characters are recruited out of SAS.

00:12:40.000 And he said that we are engaging in murder, we are engaging in crimes, we are stirring up crises on purpose, and he'd already been there for three years in the most heavy combat they've seen.

00:12:54.000 He was in on the invasion.

00:12:55.000 He was in throughout.

00:12:57.000 And he said, the Americans are engaging in crimes every day, and I'm being forced to aid and abet them.

00:13:04.000 And he said, I am not going to be part of this.

00:13:09.000 And the Ministry of Defense then, you can go read the articles, said, oh, we really respect a top soldier of his nature.

00:13:16.000 No, we're not going to be arresting him as he thinks he is.

00:13:18.000 We want to speak with him.

00:13:19.000 See, they didn't want to make a martyr out of this guy, but they took this doctor, Mr. Smith, Dr. Smith, who has a medical degree, medical doctor, and he also has a top PhD in philosophy, And his philosophy professors are coming out and saying that his dissertation was one of the best PhDs in philosophy they'd ever seen.

00:13:45.000 And by the way, his dissertation was on good and evil.

00:13:48.000 And saying, contrary to what Nietzsche and others said, that there is good and evil.

00:13:55.000 So he has a PhD in good and evil.

00:13:58.000 He has a medical doctorate as well.

00:14:03.000 And he researched the war and he said, I'm not going.

00:14:07.000 I joined the military because I was naive and thought we were going to fight evil.

00:14:12.000 Post 9-11.

00:14:14.000 And then he found out, of course, that the war was a fraud and the whole thing was a scam.

00:14:19.000 He's another Pat Tillman but a smarter Pat Tillman.

00:14:23.000 He went and he joined By the way, he's already been a university professor on top of it.

00:14:31.000 So, I mean, you cannot really be more, have more letters in front of your name than Dr. Smith.

00:14:39.000 And again, when we got a break here in a few minutes, I'll look through my articles.

00:14:41.000 I can't find his quotes here.

00:14:43.000 I want to get four of them here.

00:14:45.000 I want to find the quote and read the quote that he had to say, that he had to say about this because It is so vitally important that we understand the moral stand people are taking.

00:15:04.000 By the way, remember three weeks ago it was on Fox News.

00:15:07.000 He's a contributor there, not for long.

00:15:09.000 He's one of their analysts.

00:15:11.000 He was also on CBS Nightly News.

00:15:15.000 Check that.

00:15:16.000 He was on one of the CBS Sunday News shows.

00:15:20.000 And he also first gave the interview in LA Weekly.

00:15:25.000 One of the founders of Delta Force.

00:15:31.000 And he said, in fact we're going to write another article on this, but we wrote an article about the SAS officer and the Delta Force founder.

00:15:39.000 He's founding commander, the founder from Austin, Texas and died a few years ago, but he's the founding commander.

00:15:47.000 The person that first commanded Delta Force.

00:15:49.000 And he went public and said the war is staged.

00:15:52.000 We are stirring up crises on purpose.

00:15:56.000 He said the war on terror isn't real.

00:15:58.000 No real country threatens us.

00:16:00.000 The war on terror is bogus.

00:16:03.000 To paraphrase, he even said things more hardcore than that.

00:16:07.000 And again, just go read the articles on InfoWars.com and on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:16:11.000 Or in LA Weekly or Fox News or wherever you wish.

00:16:14.000 They all put stories out on it.

00:16:17.000 These are top SAS officers, top Delta Force officers, RAF, again, Royal Air Force doctors.

00:16:27.000 These are the creme de la creme of the military.

00:16:30.000 What, in the last week, two former Iraq U.S.

00:16:34.000 generals at the highest levels have gone public, saying Rumsfeld needs to resign, we're stirring up crises, it's insane that they want to attack Iran.

00:16:45.000 And these individuals, almost universally, are conservatives.

00:16:49.000 They're hawks.

00:16:50.000 You go look at their records, they're pro-gun, pro-America.

00:16:55.000 You don't get any more red-blooded. 0.70

00:16:57.000 So the people out there driving around with the, you know, support our troops, Stickers! 1.00

00:17:05.000 You do support the troops by getting them out of a fraud, by bringing them home.

00:17:09.000 You don't protect America.

00:17:11.000 All the analysts say that Iraq has now become a laboratory, a laboratory, a factory of real terrorists.

00:17:18.000 Which, if you read Pentagon Plan P2OG, six billion funding a year, it is meant to, quote, stir up terrorists, create terrorists, create crises as an excuse and a pretext for U.S.

00:17:30.000 military force in the Middle East.

00:17:33.000 It is not our opinion.

00:17:34.000 It is not the founding commander of Delta Forces' opinion.

00:17:38.000 It is not one of the most highly decorated veteran SAS officers' opinion.

00:17:44.000 It is not Dr. Smith's opinion.

00:17:46.000 It is not Alex Jones' opinion.

00:17:48.000 It is not Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of Reaganomics, opinion.

00:17:51.000 It is not Congressman Ron Paul, Vietnam, Dr. Veteran, opinion.

00:17:57.000 It is not the opinion of any of us.

00:18:00.000 We know what we're talking about.

00:18:02.000 We've looked at the facts.

00:18:04.000 The war is designed to go on as long as possible to make the defense contractors more money, and the contractors that serve the troops more money and serve the contractors more money and more importantly it's meant as a domestic distraction according to Bush's own biographer his own autobiography look at our sources of information out of their own mouths out of the horse's mouths it is about using Iraq as a military launch base to project force into the region

00:18:34.000 It is a fraud, it is a lie, and people who are supporting this because they think George Bush is conservative, you're on the wrong side of history!

00:18:46.000 Our troops are breathing depleted uranium.

00:18:51.000 Their birth defects universally tripled after the first Gulf War, they have now more than quadrupled.

00:18:56.000 Official numbers?

00:18:58.000 Time Magazine, it's admitted, it's not hidden.

00:19:01.000 So, when your son, when he's 30, is dying of lung cancer, and they do a CAT scan, and they do a tissue biopsy test, and he's got DU in him, and you're burying your son, know I'm going to be a lot more sad about it than you are!

00:19:18.000 And know that I tried to stop it!

00:19:21.000 When your daughter's going in the ground, when her kids are crying around her coffin, I want you to remember that we tried to stop this.

00:19:33.000 That we tried to defend this republic.

00:19:36.000 That we did the best job we could to really support the troops.

00:19:40.000 And that I'm up late at night losing sleep over the troops.

00:19:43.000 And that I care about our military.

00:19:46.000 And I don't like seeing what's happened to it.

00:19:49.000 And don't tell me I'm a liberal.

00:19:51.000 Hillary Clinton wants more war than Bush does. 1.00

00:19:53.000 Because they're all a bunch of pot and paid for scum. 1.00

00:19:57.000 He'll be right back. 0.99

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00:23:59.000 You know, I can't help it.

00:24:06.000 I'm gonna do it.

00:24:07.000 They railed against the crown.

00:24:09.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:24:11.000 Another rag tag band.

00:24:14.000 Declaring.

00:24:19.000 They laid their bodies down.

00:24:24.000 In a bloody war.

00:24:26.000 For liberty.

00:24:28.000 For me.

00:24:29.000 For you.

00:24:30.000 Descendants.

00:24:32.000 Descendants.

00:24:35.000 I'm here for my descendants.

00:24:37.000 The wonderful lives they're going to have.

00:24:41.000 Think about our descendants.

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00:24:54.000 Far ahead of their time.

00:24:56.000 Thanks to the Renegades.

00:24:57.000 You know, I'm tempted to play that song.

00:24:59.000 Hey, dig that up.

00:25:00.000 We haven't played that in full in about a year.

00:25:02.000 Dig that up, Scott, if you can.

00:25:03.000 I know during the move it's probably in some shelf or something, but find me Steve Ross' Renegades.

00:25:09.000 We'll play that later.

00:25:10.000 Let's go ahead and go to your calls.

00:25:12.000 Jeff and Mass.

00:25:13.000 Jeff, you're on the air.

00:25:13.000 Thanks for holding.

00:25:14.000 Ah, yes.

00:25:15.000 Very simple.

00:25:16.000 As far as illegal immigration is concerned, I was looking at Michelle Malkin's website on the subject, and these illegal immigrants I'm not just here to work jobs that Americans will not work. 0.86

00:25:27.000 This is a fifth column.

00:25:28.000 These people are wearing Che Guevara shirts.

00:25:31.000 And with our troops in Iraq and the Middle East, this country is wide open for an internal revolution.

00:25:38.000 Well, you're not joking when you say that.

00:25:40.000 On Monday is the International Commie Party Day. 0.54

00:25:43.000 They're going to have a big one on May Day.

00:25:45.000 They've got red flags everywhere.

00:25:46.000 They've got the Farm Workers Party flags that are openly communistic.

00:25:50.000 Yes.

00:25:51.000 Oh yeah, that's a fact.

00:25:52.000 And let me add that I believe that America's demise will come when gas prices go to about $7 a gallon.

00:26:00.000 Which the Bilderberg Group said it would.

00:26:02.000 Well, that's it.

00:26:03.000 And people go by their stomachs.

00:26:05.000 People don't care about anything.

00:26:07.000 You'll see massive amounts of people going out into the streets, white, blacks, and Hispanics, all fighting each other like Bosnia and Herzegovina. 0.99

00:26:16.000 And then UN troops will come into this country, crackheads, The borders will be sealed, except it will keep guys like us in, and we will all be put into camps where our organs will be taken out.

00:26:29.000 That will be the end of America as we know it.

00:26:31.000 It will be like the movie V for Vendetta.

00:26:34.000 Did you see the movie V for Vendetta?

00:26:36.000 Yes, I did.

00:26:37.000 That's what the future is going to be like.

00:26:39.000 America will be a third world country, and we'll be the world's biggest leper colony. 1.00

00:26:45.000 And the whole world will dump its bomb twenty-five percent... And England prevails! 0.99

00:26:50.000 Thanks for the call, I appreciate it.

00:26:54.000 I'm an Englishman and I'm absolutely proud of it, and England prevails! 0.97

00:26:58.000 You degenerate Americans! 0.86

00:27:00.000 You haven't seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about. 0.99

00:27:03.000 Let me just stop you right there. 0.84

00:27:05.000 Paul Watson and I, what, two weeks ago, wrote an article About what you just said, and it is a possibility.

00:27:13.000 I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it is a possibility.

00:27:15.000 Something's going to happen with the riots and problems in the next year, I would surmise.

00:27:21.000 I would analyze and give you that projection.

00:27:24.000 And it is all staged.

00:27:25.000 You've got to go to PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:27:28.000 And we have a detailed report that we put together last night and have posted today, dealing with the fact that it is admitted.

00:27:36.000 It is admitted.

00:27:38.000 In fact, Paul put a question mark on the headline.

00:27:40.000 I told him to take the question mark off that Bush and Fox hired Bush's big PR firm that he uses for his elections and Fox used back in December to stage these demonstrations and we've tracked it right back to it and the PR firm said we're going to defeat that legislation.

00:27:58.000 The legislation making illegal aliens who are already illegal felons.

00:28:01.000 Making the local police enforce the law.

00:28:05.000 Making the federal police enforce the law.

00:28:09.000 And yes, instead of us all living in peace together as whites, hispanics, and blacks do here in Austin at least, everybody gets along pretty darn good.

00:28:17.000 The government and the media is about making us see our differences.

00:28:20.000 See, in the name of a lot of this multiculturalism, it's the opposite.

00:28:23.000 It's actually showing the differences.

00:28:26.000 Getting all the quote minority groups that are now the majority, Hispanics in the southwest of the majority, to think that whites are out to get them, then to get whites to think Hispanics are out to get them, and to get us all at each other's throats. 0.92

00:28:38.000 Hey, let's see the big enemy.

00:28:39.000 Let's come together against the New World Order, my friends.

00:28:42.000 I don't care what color you are. 0.96

00:28:45.000 We all have been enslaved in the past.

00:28:46.000 We don't want our children being enslaved now.

00:28:49.000 And you explain to these illegal aliens and the people that are supporting them that it's a George Bush PR firm.

00:28:54.000 That's LA Times.

00:28:55.000 That's Dallas Morning News.

00:28:56.000 That's Associated Press.

00:28:57.000 Hidden in plain view three months ago.

00:28:59.000 I just remembered it two days ago and went and researched it and sure enough my memory served correct.

00:29:03.000 There it was.

00:29:04.000 Caught red-handed.

00:29:05.000 A very important article up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:29:09.000 A foreign government Has come into America, hired a PR firm, worked in tandem with the media, the Spanish media, the English-speaking media, to propagandize the American people, to back us off, because there's a real grassroots revolution against these open borders and our sovereignty being destroyed.

00:29:30.000 The good news is the first week and a half of protest were nothing but Mexican flags.

00:29:34.000 You can't unring that bell.

00:29:35.000 People have seen that now, so now they're serving out the American flags, desperately trying to keep it going.

00:29:40.000 It's too late.

00:29:41.000 So it blew up in your face again, New World Order.

00:29:44.000 Your PR campaign's a failure.

00:29:46.000 You may have defeated the legislation, but you've woken the sleeping giant.

00:29:50.000 Now where's the whirlwind?

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:34:01.000 All right.

00:34:03.000 Let's go ahead and go back to the calls.

00:34:05.000 And there's a bunch of other international and national news as well.

00:34:08.000 We'll be getting into Jane and Marilyn.

00:34:11.000 Go ahead, Jane.

00:34:11.000 You're on the air.

00:34:12.000 Early in the week, you had a call from a listener with a question about a link on Jimmy Walter's reopen 9-11 site.

00:34:19.000 uh To the question of whether blue screen technology was used to create fake doctored video broadcast by CNN and MSNBC.

00:34:29.000 Well I wasn't, let me be clear, I wasn't specifically attacking Walter for having some link on his side of a thousand plus links.

00:34:36.000 I'm just saying I believe the progenitors, the people that came up with that idea, the people pushing it, are just out of control.

00:34:43.000 Go ahead.

00:34:44.000 Well you cavalierly dismissed The whole issue is a red herring.

00:34:48.000 Yes, I cavalierly dismissed it.

00:34:50.000 If, indeed, fake doctored video has been used by the networks, which we know the American people are... Ma'am, ma'am, I talked to personal family friends of mine that I've known for over a decade who saw the second plane hit.

00:35:03.000 Maybe they think they saw a plane hit, but the fact of the matter is... And maybe there's space aliens in the basement of the Capitol Building.

00:35:10.000 At least two of the flights aren't even on the BTS database.

00:35:13.000 Those would be flight 11 and flight 77.

00:35:15.000 They never existed.

00:35:16.000 Ma'am, I'm not saying they didn't change flights and have little squirrely things going on.

00:35:20.000 We know it's an inside job.

00:35:21.000 If we have hard evidence that fake doctor... a cartoon was broadcast to send us off to war, That is absolutely vital. 1.00

00:35:32.000 And the media!

00:35:33.000 The media is at the center of the whole 9-11 incident.

00:35:35.000 What fake cartoon are you talking about?

00:35:37.000 Are you talking about the fat bin Laden?

00:35:39.000 You know, that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

00:35:42.000 Absolutely.

00:35:43.000 If the media is broadcasting fake doctored video, we have to put that out there and we have to explain to people the manner in which it's being used.

00:35:52.000 Well, man, what I'm telling you is, do you think it was holograms or blue screen?

00:35:56.000 No one has said that I know it was holograms.

00:35:58.000 I'm convinced, I'm absolutely convinced that at least one of those videos is fake.

00:36:03.000 You can see it when you walk through it frame by frame.

00:36:05.000 There is no impact when the object hits the tower.

00:36:08.000 Now, I don't want to get into a discussion of the specifics of what specific technologies were used to create fake doctored video material.

00:36:18.000 I was feeling pretty good, Gene, but I've got a headache now.

00:36:24.000 I guess it's a question of just how much, how critical you consider the media to the whole brainwashing of the American public.

00:36:30.000 Well, there's a thousand times a thousand different points I'm integrating, Jane.

00:36:35.000 Tell you what, let me put you on hold just so I'm not distracted and I'll go back to you and let you comment on what I'm about to say.

00:36:41.000 Okay, number one.

00:36:43.000 The globalists follow past plans. 1.00

00:36:45.000 They're psychopaths. 0.90

00:36:46.000 Psychopaths, if you've studied criminology, do the same thing with different variants on that main theme over and over again.

00:36:55.000 And in Operation Northwoods, the official U.S.

00:36:57.000 government document planning 9-11 style attacks with hijacked jets, which is official, admitted, declassified, public, reported on even by ABC News and Baltimore Sun, the government says they will stage CIA operatives getting on board aircraft that take off in plain view at public airports, at international airports.

00:37:19.000 They take off and go somewhere else, and then drones, cargo planes, dressed up like passenger planes, are blown up, and a fake manifest is issued publicly.

00:37:29.000 This is all in there!

00:37:29.000 Go read it!

00:37:31.000 Preferably, it's said with young people, students on board, because that will cause a helpful wave of national indignation to be focused on Cuba, and then, of course, the widening war that they wanted to have with the Soviet Union.

00:37:46.000 It was real in 1967, when President Johnson and Defense Secretary McNamara parked 14 miles off the coast of Egypt, the USS Liberty, and then with unmarked Israeli planes, it was a deal with the U.S.

00:38:00.000 and Israel, I had the admirals on, the JAG officers, this is all public now, attack that ship To blame it on Egypt, and they attempted to sink it and kill all aboard and strafe the life rafts to blame it on Egypt.

00:38:13.000 And then when the ship asked for help with an emergency transmitter that the Israelis hadn't shot away, they were jamming the American signals.

00:38:20.000 The pilot, one of the pilots admits, of the two wings that attacked it, that they were ordered to attack and knew it was American and tried to refuse and were threatened with court martial over the radio.

00:38:29.000 All these people, this is public, not debatable.

00:38:31.000 That was a real ship.

00:38:32.000 They didn't go stick a fake one out there, okay?

00:38:39.000 Gladio, all these attacks, they're real.

00:38:42.000 They blew up real mosques, they killed real religious leaders, they shot real crowds of people.

00:38:47.000 In 1953 to bring down Mozadek and Iran, Kermit Roosevelt and CIA and MI6 together in tandem.

00:38:53.000 We have the publicly released after-action reports from Kermit Roosevelt to Tim Downing Street and to President Eisenhower.

00:39:02.000 I talked to Jimmy Wright, good family friend of mine, I've stayed at his home many times, good friends with him and his family, structural engineer, that day, within an hour or two of it happening, live on air, had him on, saying clearly there were bombs in the building, clearly controlled demolition.

00:39:17.000 He heard the first plane hit, got up and was watching, and they'd already evacuated and got downstairs, and he saw the second one hit.

00:39:24.000 We ought to dig that out and play that again.

00:39:28.000 All of that happened.

00:39:30.000 That was witnessed.

00:39:31.000 I know other people, personally, friends of mine, who saw the first plane hit, who saw the second plane hit.

00:39:43.000 Listen, blue screen is too hard to use, and yeah, people are saying holograms.

00:39:48.000 Holograms are too hard to use.

00:39:51.000 It was real.

00:39:52.000 Those were real planes hitting.

00:39:56.000 And I have challenged everyone in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

00:39:58.000 I haven't told you what to say or what to do or what to believe.

00:40:01.000 I get criticized because I say I'm not going to focus on the Pentagon.

00:40:04.000 Obviously the story we're being told isn't true.

00:40:06.000 I'm not going to focus on this or that because it's honey pots meant to create a big debate.

00:40:11.000 And believe me, I could have sold a lot of videos if I did do that.

00:40:14.000 I focused on prior knowledge, government involvement, NORAD stand down, Bin Laden being CIA, Marvin Bush running security, bombs in the buildings, Building 7 getting blown up, drills that were carried out that day.

00:40:27.000 Bush signing W199I, ordering the FBI not to stop Al Qaeda.

00:40:32.000 You can convince college students, and you can convince mom and pop, and you can convince Sally Soccer Mom and Joe Sixpack with the Pentagon business and all the rest of it, and that's fine and dandy and I've left that to others.

00:40:46.000 And they're big stars.

00:40:49.000 I can convince congressmen I can convince Hollywood people.

00:40:54.000 I can convince people with doctorates.

00:40:57.000 I can convince chief economists.

00:40:59.000 I can convince big high-powered individuals by not putting on a case where it's nebulous things that look suspicious but I can't prove one way or the other.

00:41:11.000 I win with the people that count, and America wins when we focus on the issues that cannot be debated, that they cannot get around, that are absolute fact.

00:41:24.000 And the fact is, criminal elements of our government planned, funded, executed, and then engaged in the propaganda of the aftermath of 9-11.

00:41:36.000 And saying there was blue screen and holograms is the kiss of death.

00:41:41.000 Let me give you another piece of evidence of that.

00:41:44.000 What is Popular Mechanics?

00:41:47.000 What is Vanity Fair?

00:41:48.000 What is the New York Times, the Washington Post, and all the paid blogs, Front Page Magazine, the rest of them?

00:41:54.000 What do they do?

00:42:00.000 Hmm.

00:42:02.000 They attack The Pentagon, they attack the holograms, they attack the blue screen.

00:42:10.000 Because those are areas where we can debate it till the end of the earth, until the hills fall down.

00:42:19.000 Please, please, please, if you want to be effective, take my ten cents for what it's worth.

00:42:28.000 Start out with people on Northwoods.

00:42:30.000 Start out with them on Gladio.

00:42:32.000 Start out with them on the Reichstag.

00:42:34.000 Start out with them on the Main.

00:42:35.000 Start out with them on the Lusitania.

00:42:37.000 Start out with them on Mozadek and Iran.

00:42:42.000 Start out where you can go to CIA.gov, where it's all admitted, where they've shot their mouths off, where they carried out terror attacks, or staged events, or provocateured, You see, if I'm a prosecutor and I got a thousand pieces, two thousand pieces of evidence, I'm going to put on the fifty to the jury that cannot be debated.

00:43:07.000 I'm not going to put on the evidence to the police officers listening right now, to the detectives, to the people out there that understand dealing with crime scenes and crime and evidence.

00:43:17.000 I'm not going to put on the stuff that isn't bulletproof.

00:43:20.000 I'm gonna put on the cast-iron, iron-side, iron-bellied, armored, plaz-steel fat.

00:43:29.000 And I'm gonna win.

00:43:32.000 Okay, go ahead, Jane, finish up. 1.00

00:43:33.000 Look, one of the first things that I looked for in the first 24 hours of 9-11 were airport security video cam evidence that, in fact, hijackers, the hijackers who they claimed to have hijacked these planes, Actually boarded the planes that they were alleged to be on.

00:43:48.000 And they could only do it in one case?

00:43:51.000 And they could simply show them going through the security checkpoint into the gates?

00:43:55.000 Never.

00:43:56.000 The only video that they showed us at all was what they alleged to be Mohammed Aded getting on a connecting flight to Portland, Maine.

00:44:02.000 We never had any video.

00:44:03.000 And that was only, and I agree with you, and that was only, and that was only going through the security checkpoint, not going through the gate onto the plane?

00:44:11.000 Bottom line, we never got any Security cam video from Logan, from Newark, or from Dallas.

00:44:11.000 Right.

00:44:18.000 And there's only 20.1% on all four of the flights.

00:44:21.000 Computer malfunctions, two airlines, they're landing planes, the governor says, in Ohio at airports and putting them in the military hangars with the same flight numbers.

00:44:30.000 Something really weird went on, Jane, but listen, you're never going to be able to prove exactly what went on.

00:44:30.000 Absolutely!

00:44:36.000 Well, certainly the claim that the networks fake material, broadcast fake material.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, they've done it in the past with fake tapes given to them by the CIA.

00:44:47.000 But it's compartmentalized.

00:44:50.000 They didn't fake people seeing jets flying around.

00:44:52.000 Thanks for the call.

00:44:53.000 And I understand.

00:44:55.000 Listen, people love a mystery.

00:44:56.000 They love people.

00:44:58.000 People love the thing they can't totally prove.

00:45:00.000 And so you're going to spend 80% of your time on this.

00:45:03.000 And a bunch of you, that's fine and dandy.

00:45:06.000 And then we may not win.

00:45:08.000 Ron in California.

00:45:10.000 Go ahead, Ron.

00:45:11.000 I was wondering if you had listened to or if you'd seen KenWelch.com?

00:45:17.000 No.

00:45:18.000 No.

00:45:19.000 Some very informative information about this weekend on there.

00:45:24.000 Great, well thank you.

00:45:26.000 Concerning what, sir?

00:45:28.000 Um, Texas.

00:45:30.000 Oh, how there's going to be terror attacks or something?

00:45:35.000 More than that, I think.

00:45:36.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

00:45:39.000 You know something?

00:45:40.000 I don't even know what the caller is bringing up here specifically.

00:45:44.000 But one time I got on air, one time in twelve years, not five times, not twenty times, not a hundred times, one time.

00:45:54.000 And I said, call the White House, pretty risky for me, and tell them, don't attack the World Trade Center and don't blame it on your asset bin Laden. 0.55

00:46:02.000 And I said, it's going to happen, call them, stop them.

00:46:05.000 From sources I have, from intelligence, from my own research.

00:46:09.000 And what happened two months later?

00:46:10.000 What happened a month after I put out my alert?

00:46:12.000 Dr. Tania Karajanian, Chief Economist for Vladimir Putin, went public and said they're going to attack the World Financial Center, the main financial center of the world in New York, lower Manhattan.

00:46:21.000 She wasn't specific.

00:46:23.000 I was.

00:46:26.000 And what I said came true.

00:46:27.000 What I said happened.

00:46:31.000 And now, there are individuals, God bless them, a lot of them don't mean bad.

00:46:35.000 Some of them may.

00:46:36.000 I just, it's really sad.

00:46:40.000 Who get up on the radio, get up on TV, get up on their news sites, and say, this city's going to be blown up by a nuke on this day.

00:46:50.000 This is going to happen.

00:46:51.000 That's going to happen.

00:46:52.000 Planet X will kill us in three years on this day.

00:46:54.000 Three years passes.

00:46:56.000 I predicted three years before.

00:46:57.000 I said, they'll claim that the Gregorian calendar was wrong, and then it's really in two years, because they can keep book sales going that way.

00:47:03.000 Exactly what I said.

00:47:04.000 I mean, I even know what they're going to do after.

00:47:06.000 Don't ask me how my brain works.

00:47:07.000 I just knew, okay?

00:47:09.000 Sometimes I think it's a blessing, other times I think it's a curse.

00:47:12.000 Didn't happen.

00:47:13.000 The same people saying that are back out selling other books with new things.

00:47:18.000 Oh man.

00:47:19.000 I have a headache now.

00:47:22.000 I need to eat something.

00:47:29.000 And people are running around

00:47:33.000 saying that we're going to be nuked on this day and then when Texas City doesn't get nuked on this day okay now we're going to be nuked on this day and now we're going to be nuked on this day now we're going to be nuked on this day and a lot of people have bitten on this I remember Tex Mars calling me two and a half years ago and going Alex have you gotten a call from this individual Tex is really smart by the way former Air Force intelligence

00:48:02.000 Space and aeronautics professor, best-selling author, pastor.

00:48:06.000 And I said, he goes, what's your feeling on this person?

00:48:09.000 And I go, I think they're probably an operative.

00:48:12.000 And he said, I agree with you, that's what I thought.

00:48:15.000 Person calls up, I want to come by your office, I want to talk about the attack on Texas City that's coming.

00:48:18.000 It was like two and a half, three years ago.

00:48:20.000 It's going to happen in a couple months, I want to come warn you.

00:48:23.000 Text is like, no thanks, have a nice day.

00:48:26.000 I'm contacted by the same people, no thanks, I'll talk to you later.

00:48:30.000 Over and over again it's going to happen, over and over again it doesn't happen, over and over again people bite, over and over again I get a headache.

00:48:40.000 Now the people who really will carry out a terror attack, who you've got to watch, the CFR, or the people that are privy to knowledge of those that will, came out three years ago and said Dallas, Cleveland, Denver, Will be hit by A-bombs.

00:49:01.000 Will be hit by smallpox.

00:49:04.000 The White House told U.S.

00:49:05.000 News and World Report in late 2004, before the election, I should say mid, that the Capitol would be hit by a massive attack bigger than 9-11.

00:49:19.000 It was going to happen.

00:49:20.000 It was going to be atomic.

00:49:22.000 I said, that's not going to happen, folks.

00:49:25.000 At least not now.

00:49:27.000 And it would be really easy for me if I wanted to instantly have the top story, instantly be the biggest thing in alternative media on the web, I could put out a report right now, I could call Paul Watson up, hey Paul, yes Alex, I want you to do some research on this, there's some chatter that they're going to nuke the Capitol, or they're going to nuke Texas City, and just put out a report saying that it's a good chance it's going to happen and we've got sources saying it. 0.96

00:49:52.000 And Paul, of course, isn't immoral and stupid, so he'd say no.

00:49:56.000 But if he did, we'd write the article and you'd get millions of readers that first day. 0.98

00:50:02.000 But see, I'm not here to get millions of readers just for millions of readers.

00:50:06.000 I've got a little bit of money in the bank.

00:50:07.000 I don't even spend it.

00:50:08.000 I don't care about it.

00:50:10.000 I'm not here to be a big shot.

00:50:11.000 I don't care.

00:50:13.000 I don't like being bugged at the supermarket and at the mall and at Target when I'm buying socks.

00:50:19.000 I'm not in this for ego.

00:50:22.000 I'm in this to aggressively defend my family, and hence the country they live in, and the planet they live in.

00:50:27.000 I'm a warrior.

00:50:30.000 For freedom.

00:50:31.000 And I've got my head screwed on straight.

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00:54:10.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:54:14.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.

00:54:19.000 And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire.

00:54:24.000 The ring of fire.

00:54:27.000 You know, that's what the government does. 0.54

00:54:28.000 They constantly run around saying, we're going to get nuked, we're going to get smallpox, SARS is going to kill us, bird flu is going to kill us, kill us, kill us, kill us.

00:54:36.000 And then we're always here saying, well, if it does happen, it's going to be in the future because they've still got to set up the police state, and it's going to be the government that's behind it.

00:54:45.000 And then all these people that constantly, year after year, put out baloney, and put out hoaxes, and put out things that don't come true, They lose a little credibility with the thinkers, but still so many people buy into it.

00:54:57.000 And look, I'm not blaming you for questioning.

00:54:59.000 I'm not blaming you for asking questions.

00:55:00.000 I'm not blaming you for looking at it.

00:55:02.000 It's just I've been doing this a while.

00:55:04.000 I'm an expert.

00:55:06.000 And I'm enough of an expert to know I don't have all the answers.

00:55:08.000 So just don't believe me.

00:55:09.000 Just check out what I'm saying.

00:55:12.000 Earlier I was mentioning the SAS officer that quit.

00:55:16.000 And then I was mentioning the former founder of Delta Force, retired Command Sergeant Major Eric Haney, founding member of the military's elite covert counter-terrorism unit, Delta Force, and going public saying the war's staged, we're stirring up trouble on purpose, there's no real terror threat to America, on and on and on.

00:55:34.000 And the other guy's top SAS, London Telegraph, SAS soldier has refused to fight in Iraq and has left the army over illegal tactics of United States troops and the policies of coalition forces.

00:55:44.000 See, they didn't charge him like they did Dr. Smith, the doctor who refused, who they just gave eight months in prison.

00:55:50.000 After three months in Baghdad, Ben Griffin told his commander that he was no longer prepared to fight alongside American forces and he was there, of course, three years before on the eve of the war as well.

00:56:00.000 He said he witnessed dozens of illegal acts by U.S.

00:56:02.000 troops claiming they viewed all Iraqis as undermension of the Nazi term for races regarded as subhuman.

00:56:07.000 It goes on and on.

00:56:09.000 So I thought I would just, since I mentioned that earlier, I would give you the names because the names were failing me, memory wise.

00:56:19.000 And yes, I have the articles that Collar's mentioned about Russian nukes traced to Texas, and it's not a drill, and all this.

00:56:25.000 And, you know, who knows?

00:56:26.000 You know, that could be going on.

00:56:27.000 It's just over and over again.

00:56:29.000 I hear this story every month, and it's going to happen on this date.

00:56:32.000 It's going to happen on that date, and it doesn't happen.

00:56:34.000 And I get angry.

00:56:38.000 I mean, is something big going to happen on the eve of the Iran attack?

00:56:41.000 It could.

00:56:42.000 But I think they'll attack Iran first, and then claim that Iran attacks us. 0.58

00:56:46.000 And it could even be real.

00:56:47.000 Iran really could do something.

00:56:50.000 But most likely it will be in the Middle East and Iraq against U.S. 0.89

00:56:53.000 forces.

00:56:54.000 Coalition forces, the Brits and the U.S.

00:56:56.000 is all that's left there.

00:57:00.000 But instead of always focusing on what we can't prove, what would it be like if we focused on what we could prove?

00:57:12.000 Let's go ahead.

00:57:12.000 Well, I don't have time to take calls.

00:57:14.000 I'll take a few calls in the next five minutes.

00:57:15.000 We'll get our guest on from Europe.

00:57:19.000 Get into real, admitted U.S. 0.54

00:57:20.000 government terrorism and also hiring provocateurs.

00:57:23.000 That was part of Gladio.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:19.000 Dr. Daniel Ganzer, expert in geo-strategy and security, secret warfare, business and human rights.

00:59:26.000 He's researched, written a book about Operation Gladio.

00:59:30.000 He'll be joining us coming up after this first break.

00:59:34.000 I've had a lot of requests.

00:59:35.000 I haven't aired it in about a year to play Renegades in its entirety.

00:59:38.000 So we'll go ahead and roll that, and then we'll come back and go to our guests.

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00:59:58.000 Here is Renegades.

00:59:59.000 Here is Renegades.

01:00:29.000 The cross was a solution, but it rose again.

01:00:36.000 What?

01:00:38.000 Wise men follow him where he roams again.

01:00:44.000 Wise men follow him.

01:00:46.000 Thank God for the renegade.

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01:00:52.000 For the head of the third train.

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01:01:57.000 Some would make him king, others couldn't stand for that.

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01:02:13.000 Wise men follow him, they know the music here.

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01:02:24.000 And the last indeed.

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01:02:45.000 The Lord knows where we see.

01:03:10.000 But he rose again.

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01:03:16.000 For the renegades.

01:03:20.000 And the lives they lead.

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01:07:14.000 All right, eight minutes into hour number two, already the second segment of this hour.

01:07:29.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

01:07:30.000 Thank you.

01:07:32.000 He's got such a voluminous pedigree when it comes to research and doctorates that I think it's best if I just let our guest Dr. Daniel Ganzer Tell us about himself.

01:07:48.000 He's been in, of course, major think tanks all over Europe.

01:07:50.000 He's a Swiss individual living in Switzerland, and he teaches college.

01:07:54.000 He's a professor.

01:07:55.000 He's written a book that I now have in my hot little hands a few weeks ago.

01:07:59.000 It was Essential Research, our new film I'm making.

01:08:03.000 NATO's Secret Army, Operation Gladio, and terrorism in Western Europe, and of course it's available from Amazon.com, we'll tell you about it later and have a link to that up on Infowars.com, and scholarly work, NATO Stay Behind Armies, NATO's Secret Armies, and this is where they carry out terror attacks or pay a criminal group to carry out a terror attack as a pretext for blaming their political enemies.

01:08:27.000 And so I'm really honored Glad to have Mr. Ganser on with us today.

01:08:32.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:08:33.000 Thank you.

01:08:34.000 Good afternoon.

01:08:35.000 You bet.

01:08:35.000 Tell us about yourself in a nutshell.

01:08:37.000 I know some of it, some of the work you've done we won't even get into today for security reasons, but tell us what you can about yourself.

01:08:45.000 Well, I'm a historian.

01:08:47.000 I live in Switzerland.

01:08:49.000 I'm the father of a young daughter and I teach history, modern history, international relations.

01:08:55.000 And what I'm really interested in is false flag terrorism and geostrategy.

01:09:00.000 Because that's the foundation of our entire geopolitical system, isn't it?

01:09:05.000 Well, abuse of power does exist.

01:09:07.000 That's certainly true.

01:09:08.000 And as historians, we sort of study this in detail.

01:09:11.000 But it's been very difficult during the last years to actually find concrete examples where we have so-called false flag terrorism.

01:09:18.000 In fact, many people don't even know the term what false flag terrorism is.

01:09:23.000 But Doctor, is it fair to say that the zeitgeist of governments in modern history has been staging events or provocateuring events to scare populations into accepting unpalatable political agendas?

01:09:36.000 These things have happened.

01:09:39.000 It's certainly fair to say.

01:09:40.000 What I looked at specifically were events in Europe during the Cold War.

01:09:45.000 That's the period between 1947 and 1991.

01:09:49.000 What I looked at were the NATO secret armies, and we found data in this context.

01:09:53.000 We also found data in other continents, in Africa, in Asia, in the Americas, and yeah, it's all over the place.

01:10:03.000 I would like you to just break down for us, as if you're talking to a layman audience.

01:10:09.000 We have a very informed, intelligent audience, one of the most informed out there, but there's a lot of new listeners and a lot of people will listen to this and read the transcript later.

01:10:16.000 Break down what false flag is, why governments engage in it, and then let's just run through it for the audience.

01:10:24.000 I would just add the caveat beforehand One of the best open and shut cases is the 1953 overthrow of Mohamed Mozadek, who was pro-America, thrown out the Soviets, man of the year, Time Magazine, and I've listened to Kermit Roosevelt before he died on the radio, the CIA section chief who carried out the attacks with MI6, Foreign British Petroleum, he admitted that they bombed mosques, machine gun crowds, To blame it on political enemies and to bring down Mosaddegh.

01:10:52.000 They've been beheaded.

01:10:53.000 Most of his cabinet put him on house arrest the rest of his life, blaming him for a crime they had committed.

01:10:58.000 The after action reports are on the CIA's own website and Time Magazine, New York Times also have done reports on it and have it posted.

01:11:05.000 were the after-action reports to 10 Downing Street and to the White House describing how they carried out the terror attacks, amongst other things.

01:11:14.000 Two blaming on Mosaddegh is a good place, I think, to start. 1.00

01:11:17.000 But first off, tell us what false flag is or government-sponsored terror, and then let's run through the history of it.

01:11:22.000 Okay, well, you're certainly right that the 1953 operation in Iran was a false flag operation or included elements of false flag.

01:11:30.000 But the term false flag comes from the time when adversaries met on the sea, and one ship, for instance, had a red flag, and the other ship had the blue flag.

01:11:40.000 And these groups of ships would fight against each other, Now, some ships, you know, some captains wanted to be very cunning, very clever, so they hissed a different flag.

01:11:50.000 So if you take the group with the blue flag, they just hissed the red flag and they could then sail closer to the other ships and attack from within the group.

01:12:00.000 And that was the origin of the term false flag.

01:12:02.000 You actually don't show who you really are, but you pretend you're somebody else.

01:12:07.000 I myself, Doctor, in one of the few areas of history I have focused on is naval history from 1500 to the 1900s.

01:12:15.000 And the British, of course, were the masters of false flag. 0.96

01:12:18.000 They would, say, pose as a Spanish ship when Spain was neutral during one section of the Napoleonic War.

01:12:24.000 They would then run up alongside, even painting their ships, up against the Spanish ships or Dutch ships to then sink them. 0.63

01:12:33.000 Pirates then took the cue from the British and would fly a neutral or friendly flag to get up close on British East India.

01:12:42.000 That's exactly right.

01:12:43.000 I mean, you actually put it down correctly.

01:12:46.000 It seems to the average citizen, it seems like something silly to do, just, you know, paint your ship in a different color or take a uniform.

01:12:54.000 But you must remember when World War II started, Hitler actually had a unit, a unit of German soldiers trained to sing Polish songs.

01:13:04.000 And these guys then dressed up as Polish soldiers and invaded a little radio station which was called Gleiwitz Radiostation and what they did is they presented, you know, they played to be Polish and attacked these Germans there and later Hitler said, well the Polish have attacked us, although these were actually Germans.

01:13:28.000 And it was later discovered during the Battle of the Bulge there were SS units trained to talk like Americans and Brits.

01:13:36.000 That's right.

01:13:37.000 I mean, you know, these things are very, very effective because after they have happened, usually the war starts.

01:13:45.000 And the war always, always, you know, makes a lot of noise and a lot of confusion.

01:13:49.000 And people can't go back to this first event.

01:13:52.000 But if you remember that The Second World War, which cost 60 million lives, actually started as a false flag.

01:13:59.000 It's fair to say that false flags do matter.

01:14:02.000 And it's simple.

01:14:02.000 How is Hitler going to attack the town of Gleiwitz?

01:14:05.000 Well, they even went so far as to grab a concentration camp victim, a Pole, dress him up as a Pole to have somebody dead that the Germans supposedly killed. 0.60

01:14:14.000 And I covered that in the new film.

01:14:15.000 It doesn't have a title yet, folks.

01:14:17.000 It'll be out in two months.

01:14:18.000 And this is exactly what they do.

01:14:19.000 Going back to the original false flags that the Brits Pioneered and perfected. 0.99

01:14:24.000 They would also capture Spanish or Dutch or they would also capture French ships, get their code books, and then come up and flash their lanterns with the proper code at the horizon to bring in the French ships so they could feed on them.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, I mean, it's everybody who's sort of working on geo-strategy knows that if you don't look at false flags, you always take a signal as a general signal, you will take a plane as a genuine plane.

01:14:53.000 Whereas, in fact, everybody knows you can, of course, dress up as, you know, a Pole or a German or an American or a Muslim or a Jew or whatever, you can always stage something.

01:15:03.000 And this is the cunning side of warfare, which can lead, obviously, sometimes to very dreadful results.

01:15:10.000 Yes, Doctor.

01:15:11.000 Where would you like to start with the state behind armies and NATO starting in 1945?

01:15:15.000 Is that a good place for us to start?

01:15:17.000 Yeah, why not?

01:15:18.000 I mean, that was the time when the Second World War was over.

01:15:18.000 Let's start there.

01:15:22.000 Europe was devastated and most strategists in Europe actually feared an occupation of Western Europe by the Communists in the years to come.

01:15:32.000 So they thought we must prepare something like a guerrilla network which could then be operated in case of an invasion.

01:15:40.000 So the primary thinking for creating such secret units was we must have a guerrilla unit ready in case of occupation.

01:15:48.000 But that was only a first point of the thinking.

01:15:51.000 That's the excuse for recruiting as the guerrilla networks.

01:15:54.000 Well, it's not.

01:15:55.000 We shouldn't say it's an excuse because some people, you know, they're like Norwegian. 1.00

01:16:00.000 I talked to a number of officers in Norway.

01:16:02.000 They have been occupied by the Germans and they were unprepared or not well prepared enough.

01:16:10.000 So they said, we never want that again for the next war.

01:16:13.000 We really want to be ready.

01:16:14.000 So they set up secret arms caches in these and that places.

01:16:18.000 They trained how to operate behind enemy lines.

01:16:21.000 By the way, I would interrupt you again and say that that's something that the Swiss pioneered is arming their population and having caches and you guys never get invaded.

01:16:29.000 That's true.

01:16:30.000 I mean, we had a secret army was called P-26.

01:16:33.000 And it was set up also after the Second World War and we cooperated with the British MI6 because the Swiss said the British are the best in that trade and it's actually true that probably the British are the best at secret warfare worldwide. 0.66

01:16:48.000 Oh, did you hear me say that last hour?

01:16:49.000 Sorry?

01:16:51.000 It's just interesting, I was having this big debate about who the best, it just sounded like you were agreeing with me.

01:16:56.000 Last hour I talked about the British being the best.

01:17:00.000 Yes, I mean I didn't hear that obviously in Switzerland but I would agree with you when you said it.

01:17:06.000 The British are very strongly involved.

01:17:08.000 Obviously, there was a sharing of information between the British and then the Americans picking up after 1945.

01:17:15.000 And the Israelis are also rather good.

01:17:17.000 So it's among these three, you know.

01:17:19.000 It's always a big battle who's actually the best.

01:17:22.000 Well, I would say that the British are the progenitors. 1.00

01:17:24.000 Yeah, they, you know, they had to hold an empire which stretched over the whole globe and if you want to hold an empire, as the Chinese say, you have to be cunning, you have to deceive, you have to use tricks.

01:17:37.000 It's not, you know, it's no moral game to be an empire, as the Romans said.

01:17:42.000 Wow, this is an amazing interview.

01:17:42.000 I agree with you.

01:17:44.000 We're on the same page, Doctor.

01:17:46.000 Please, we're about to break, but please continue with the Stay Behind Networks.

01:17:51.000 Well, the second problem they faced was that in Western Europe you had nominally democracies, so people, you know, could elect their leaders, where in Eastern Europe you had totalitarian systems, where you just had one party, namely the Communist Party, and this party was more or less directed by Moscow.

01:18:08.000 But then Western strategists were very concerned that in these democracies of Western Europe, Namely Italy or France, people would actually go and vote for the wrong people, which in their view were the Communist Party.

01:18:23.000 So that was a real problem.

01:18:25.000 They wanted to give Western Europe the right to vote and actually go and have their elections, but they were terrified, really terrified that these people might vote for the Communists, and then you have Communist parties in Western Europe, and that would have weakened NATO from within.

01:18:40.000 Stay there, Doctor.

01:18:41.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

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01:23:21.000 Dr. Gansner continuing with the Stay Behind Armies early, early post-war period.

01:23:28.000 Please continue.

01:23:30.000 Yeah, the problem was, as I said, that people in Western Europe were voting for Communists, and then you had Communists in parliaments, and then people were scared that these Communists would sort of weaken NATO from within.

01:23:44.000 So the task ahead, I mean, during the Cold War, it must be remembered, was that everybody was fighting the Communists.

01:23:50.000 I mean, everybody was saying, they're really scary and they will destroy everything.

01:23:54.000 So, what could be done?

01:23:55.000 Strategists then thought, well, we can plant bombs and say, these bombs have been planted by the Communists.

01:24:03.000 That will make them really look very bad.

01:24:05.000 And this was a strategy that was being implemented, for instance, in Italy.

01:24:11.000 Now, the white Russians, the pro-Tsarist forces, enjoyed doing that too. 0.92

01:24:17.000 I mean, you know, false flag operations really is nothing that you can say, you know, only the Germans did it, or only the Cubans did it, or the Russians did it, or the English did it, or the Israeli did it.

01:24:29.000 There's actually no nation that, you know, had that.

01:24:33.000 And from what I've studied, doctor, that's really the excuse they use with these specially picked special forces or criminals they hire to do this is, well, they're going to do it, so we've got to do it!

01:24:48.000 Yeah, but it's, you know, everybody loses in that game.

01:24:51.000 That's the point we must wake up.

01:24:53.000 I mean, you can obviously let that happen for some time and then everybody's doing false flags.

01:24:58.000 What we have now in Iraq, in the ongoing Iraq War, was that we have Special Air Service, SAS.

01:25:05.000 These are the British Special Forces.

01:25:08.000 And in one case, you know, they dressed up as Muslims, you know, really wearing a wig and wearing the sort of clothes a Muslim would wear. 0.99

01:25:17.000 In 2005, we had an imposter being caught by the Iraqis who said, gee, why do you guys dress up like that? 0.97

01:25:25.000 And they then found the The car was full of explosives nearby and it was a huge hazard.

01:25:32.000 It also killed police officers.

01:25:34.000 That's right.

01:25:37.000 When you're doing a false flag, think of the situation.

01:25:40.000 You don't want to be caught.

01:25:44.000 I don't know. 0.96

01:25:46.000 If you were posing now as a Chinese, I don't know whether you can fancy that, but just think of it and travel to Shanghai and blow something up and say, you know, the Chinese are clearly violent. 1.00

01:25:55.000 This is the proof for it. 0.83

01:25:56.000 Although, you know, you did it yourself and then they catch you.

01:25:59.000 Obviously, it's very embarrassing because you're actually proving the point that you are truly, truly violent.

01:26:05.000 And then it totally backfires.

01:26:06.000 So it's very important that the false flag operation remains unknown, remains secret.

01:26:11.000 Once the public realizes that the false flag operation has actually been carried out by the one who afterwards screams, gee, how valid the others are, you know, he's totally discredited.

01:26:22.000 You're right, and they are getting caught, and they were caught shooting police, running off, they catch them with fake beards and the whole Muslim outfit on, and then they look in the car and it's full of laws, rockets, machine guns and bombs. 0.96

01:26:34.000 Yeah, but we must remember that really this is the exception that false flag operation people are being caught.

01:26:40.000 As a rule, you know, if we go back to the Italian case, for instance, we had an attack there in the year 1972 in a small little village called Pediano.

01:26:49.000 And there, you know, you had a few police officers receiving a call saying, there's a little car at the woods and why don't you check it out?

01:26:58.000 It seems to have been stolen.

01:26:59.000 Then the police officers go there and once they are close enough, the car just blows up and they're all dead.

01:27:05.000 And then, you know, an anonymous phone call says, you know, that was the Red Brigades.

01:27:10.000 We did it.

01:27:11.000 So the data you have at the moment is just a lot of bodies all over the place.

01:27:16.000 Clear sign of violence and destruction.

01:27:19.000 And you have another phone call or you know today you would have a video or something that you can't trace back.

01:27:24.000 You don't really know whether it's true or not.

01:27:27.000 And then this message spreads out into the public.

01:27:29.000 You know, the journalists go there and obviously the journalists, they don't have a clue what happened.

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01:27:37.000 And so you have a whole, you know, sequence of events which leads people to believe, oh gee, the Red Brigades, which were a violent communist group in Italy, they did this indeed. 0.54

01:27:48.000 And what we look at as historians is that this was in 1972, and we found out only in 1984, that's 12 years later, that in fact it was a right-wing Catholic, you know, an Italian Catholic, who staged this in cooperation with the Italian military who staged this in cooperation with the Italian military secret service, Servizio Informazione e Sicurezza Militaria.

01:28:10.000 This is the Italian secret service.

01:28:12.000 And so it was actually the state, you know, engaging in this operation.

01:28:16.000 People usually don't think of it.

01:28:18.000 You're right.

01:28:18.000 We've got a break.

01:28:19.000 I want to go through a whole bunch of cases, the Bologna bombing and others.

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01:28:30.000 It is admitted.

01:28:31.000 We really got some exposure and a look into this world with what happened in decades of terrorist attacks in Italy.

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01:32:58.000 Dr. Ganser, please continue, because you're not just here saying that the Italian government, the CIA, and the P2 Lodge, and others were involved in this.

01:33:07.000 This is now mainstream news, because I've done the research, and you've done the research more than I have, in the Italian press.

01:33:14.000 They've been caught.

01:33:15.000 So let's just look at one country.

01:33:17.000 There's so many where this happened, with the NATO option, the Salvadoran option, all of it.

01:33:21.000 Happened in Latin America too.

01:33:22.000 But let's specifically, if we can, spend a few minutes on Italy itself, and the history of some of the events.

01:33:28.000 Okay, sure.

01:33:29.000 Let's focus on Italy.

01:33:31.000 What you have in Italy is a strong communist party on the left and a conservative Catholic party on the right.

01:33:38.000 The one, the conservative on the right was called Democrazia Cristiana and on the left it was called Partito Socialista Italiano.

01:33:46.000 So between these two groups you always had a very strong fight.

01:33:50.000 And in this fight, obviously, it was not in a civil war, but it almost went to a civil war.

01:33:56.000 We had a lot of deaths during the Cold War.

01:33:58.000 And in one specific moment, people died in the following way.

01:34:02.000 Go back to 1969, go to the Italian city Milano, this is in Northern Italy, and everybody's shopping for Christmas presents and stuff, and suddenly a lot of bombs go off.

01:34:12.000 And, you know, they kill people all over the place, and everybody's scared.

01:34:16.000 And you have this effect of terror.

01:34:19.000 The first effect of terror is fear.

01:34:21.000 You know, it spreads all over the place.

01:34:23.000 And then as a second effect, you need somebody who is responsible for this.

01:34:28.000 And then the message comes out, you know, these were the communists.

01:34:32.000 These were the communists.

01:34:33.000 These were the communists.

01:34:34.000 And people sort of believe this.

01:34:38.000 In 2001 or 2 it was, I think, you have a trial in Italy and, you know, you find out it was not the Communists, it was right-wing people, you know, people from the Catholics from the other camp.

01:34:48.000 So it was a false flag operation.

01:34:50.000 And then you have an Italian general from the intelligence service, Giandilio Moletti, his name is, and he says, you know, it's true we did this, but we did this together with the CIA.

01:35:02.000 And this was a very far-reaching claim, you know, he said, you know, we Italians, it's true, we did some false flag operations, but we did this in cooperation with foreign secret services who said, we need to stabilize NATO, and in order to stabilize NATO, we need to defeat the Communists.

01:35:22.000 So that's just one example.

01:35:24.000 Now, I wasn't going to bring up current issues because I want to try to keep this in a historical perspective, and that's of course your wish as well.

01:35:32.000 But at the same time, you brought up SAS dressed up like Arabs, clearly involved in the staging of false flag ops. 0.69

01:35:39.000 That's even mainstream news now.

01:35:41.000 And we've caught Israelis dressed up as Arabs shooting US troops, and the Marines have even captured them and beat them up and pulled their clothes off, and they're Israeli Special Forces or Israeli contractors.

01:35:54.000 But then we look at things like the London bombing and all the evidence there.

01:35:58.000 I mean, I've said it's a false flag.

01:35:59.000 The evidence shows that.

01:36:00.000 Even Scotland Yard says they don't think that these were, quote, the bombers or knew what they were part of, and it turns out a SWAT He's really working for MI6.

01:36:07.000 I have John Lopness, a former, you know, chief anti-terrorism expert for the Justice Department.

01:36:12.000 He comes on and says it looks like the British were carrying out the attacks that were involved.

01:36:16.000 I mean, that's a pretty heavy weight saying that.

01:36:18.000 We have the drill that day.

01:36:19.000 We have, you know, all this evidence.

01:36:21.000 We have all this happening.

01:36:23.000 Do you want to get into London briefly or do you want to just move on?

01:36:27.000 I don't know too much about London, but what I know is that people, like 10 years ago, you know, people didn't even know the term false flag operation.

01:36:36.000 And now I'm talking to so many, you know, students, newspapers, everybody, everybody tries to find out what is this false flag?

01:36:43.000 Does it really exist?

01:36:44.000 You know, like my mother, when she asked me, so what are you studying and what do you specialize in?

01:36:49.000 And I said, you know, secret warfare and military operations.

01:36:53.000 That's not really nice.

01:36:54.000 And then after some times, when I told her all these things, at first she was in disbelief that this exists.

01:37:01.000 And that is a normal stage of every person that they go through.

01:37:04.000 First they say, come on, I mean, this is not true.

01:37:06.000 So what's fake and what's true?

01:37:08.000 How can we find out?

01:37:09.000 It's really, it's a real mess then.

01:37:12.000 And what I'm trying to get at is to show that within the Cold War, we have very, very clear and specific cases where we can show this happened.

01:37:22.000 It was a false flag operation.

01:37:24.000 We know that the Take for instance 1954, the Lavon Affair.

01:37:29.000 This was a moment in the time when the Israelis didn't want the British to leave from Egypt because they wanted them to function as a buffer a little bit between Egypt and Israel.

01:37:40.000 So they dressed up as Egyptians and set off some bombs. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Nobody was killed, but it effectively kept the British there a little longer. 0.61

01:37:48.000 In the end, the Israeli Defense Minister Lavon had to resign.

01:37:51.000 But, you know, we've loads of false flag operations documented.

01:37:57.000 Listen, I've got Haratz.

01:37:59.000 I mean, that's the biggest paper in Israel.

01:38:00.000 I've got Jerusalem Post, where, what, back in 2002 was also in UPI, United Press International, did a report, and it's admitted that Israel was grabbing young Palestinian youths, holding them for five, six, seven years, in some cases ten years, releasing them as basically stooges who now work for Shin Bet and Of course, Massad, and having him go out and quote stage Al Qaeda attacks that didn't claim that Al Qaeda was in the West Bank.

01:38:30.000 There you go.

01:38:31.000 I mean, the funny thing, once you start turning the world in your head, you know, you can go to many countries.

01:38:37.000 Go to Cuba, for instance.

01:38:38.000 If you remember I recall the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion.

01:38:42.000 You know, obviously it was an effort of the CIA to try to overthrow Castro, which didn't work.

01:38:47.000 Everybody knows that part of the story.

01:38:49.000 But that small part of the story was that it also contained a false flag, because first, the US wanted to destroy Castro's Air Force.

01:38:57.000 He only had a few planes, and they were not even good.

01:39:00.000 But they wanted to bomb Cuba, but it didn't look good.

01:39:04.000 So what they did is they had planes painted in Cuban color.

01:39:08.000 So that was American planes painted in Cuban color, which then bombed Cuba and came back and landed in the U.S.

01:39:17.000 And the story, as it was spread at the United Nations where Cuba protested, was that these were Cuban pilots who fled the dictatorship of Castro.

01:39:25.000 And before fleeing the country, they bombed their own country. 0.96

01:39:28.000 And, you know, the press almost bought it, but there was one journalist who looked at these planes and said, "Gee, look, that's not exactly the Cuban plane.

01:39:36.000 This is an American plane painted in a silly way." And this sort of false flag happens again and again and again in so many different places.

01:39:46.000 Here's another example.

01:39:48.000 I know you know about the White House memo.

01:39:50.000 It came out about a year after the Downing Street memo, and this is admitted.

01:39:53.000 The White House wants to quote arrest whoever released this, so does Downing Street.

01:39:57.000 Blair is meeting just a few months before the war at the White House.

01:40:01.000 And Bush says, number one, we can stage a defector coming out who claims he saw WMDs.

01:40:06.000 We know that.

01:40:07.000 We've tried that.

01:40:07.000 Then he says we can paint up American or British planes like UN planes, fly them low, and try to get some of Saddam's forces to fire on them.

01:40:16.000 That's a false flag right there.

01:40:17.000 That's it?

01:40:19.000 And it's not new on the planet.

01:40:21.000 That's what we have to remember.

01:40:22.000 It's only new that we start to get to grips with it.

01:40:25.000 No, I agree, sir.

01:40:25.000 We learn that they exist and we start to decipher it.

01:40:28.000 It's really difficult for scientists.

01:40:30.000 I've said over and over again, Doctor, that the key right now is to have the public have a revelation or an epiphany.

01:40:40.000 A renaissance of understanding about false flag because I see it as the key in the geopolitical strategy for world empire by the Anglo-American establishment over and over again and now I've gone in ten years myself focusing predominantly on false flag and government sponsored terror to now see that it is commonplace and now entering the popular vocabulary and nomenclature.

01:41:04.000 That's true.

01:41:05.000 I mean, what we're looking at is that we're in a sort of waking up process to a strategy which has been there in the, let's say, in the abyss of international relations.

01:41:15.000 You know, people wouldn't talk about it.

01:41:17.000 It was in the dark chambers and, you know, specialists knew that it existed.

01:41:23.000 But most people would hardly confess that they actually participate in false flag operations at all.

01:41:30.000 Whereas now, let's say we've had false flag operations for at least 50 years, which we can document very well.

01:41:36.000 The recent false flag, obviously we've had them for many, many hundred years, but the last 50 years we can document them rather well.

01:41:43.000 And people start to say, so what's the use?

01:41:46.000 When I usually teach strategic thinking, I always say, think of a weapon, and then people think of a gun first, right?

01:41:53.000 They think of guns, and then they think of something powerful.

01:41:56.000 Then they think of an aircraft carrier, or of a stealth bomber, or a screw missile, something really big and heavy, heavy hardware.

01:42:04.000 I always point out that the strongest weapon is not visible.

01:42:09.000 You can't even smell it, because it's fear.

01:42:12.000 And fear is a weapon that can be used to do many things.

01:42:18.000 Obviously, if you live in a relationship, you know that one partner can use fear against the other one.

01:42:24.000 Or if you live in a school, if you go to work, you know that fear can be used and is being used as a power tool.

01:42:31.000 And so it is being used as well in international politics.

01:42:34.000 And their false flag operation actually are one of the essential mechanisms to trigger fear.

01:42:41.000 I mean, in this toolbox, it is one of the most used, most effective tools, and that's what, in his after-action report in 1953, that's what Kermit Roosevelt tells the White House, Eisenhower, and that's what he tells Tim Downing Street.

01:42:41.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:42:54.000 He says, this is incredibly effective, we've got to use this more.

01:42:58.000 That's true.

01:42:59.000 That was the first feeling of politicians who got this tool into their hands.

01:43:06.000 They were fascinated.

01:43:07.000 They thought, gee, it's not moral.

01:43:10.000 It's not right, obviously, because you kill and lie at the same time.

01:43:15.000 It's wonderful.

01:43:16.000 It's so strong.

01:43:17.000 We probably can use it and make it a better world.

01:43:19.000 Most people are convinced that they're going to make a better world anyway.

01:43:22.000 So these people who use false flag are always convinced they're fighting something very evil.

01:43:27.000 And once that has been defeated, then they will be good.

01:43:30.000 But in the meantime, they have to be bad.

01:43:32.000 So this false flag strategy was used, and now we see it all over the place, and we can't get it back into the box.

01:43:40.000 And this is something we must wake up to, that we were tricked to think that we can handle it, but once again, very much like nuclear weapons, we're not really able to handle it, and now we have a mess.

01:43:51.000 Well, exactly.

01:43:52.000 Here's an example.

01:43:53.000 They have drills at school where they take ten eight-year-old children, point machine guns at them, scream at them, yell at them, they cry, and the government says the answer is, we've got to have a police state at the school to keep you safe from shooters.

01:44:06.000 And then it's just part of the brainwashing for the police state.

01:44:08.000 Here in Austin, we've had... Where is that happening?

01:44:11.000 Here in the U.S.

01:44:12.000 We've had fake bio-attacks in downtown Austin before 9-11, shutting down the city.

01:44:17.000 Then they admit later, oh, we really didn't pull over a Muslim.

01:44:20.000 He was an officer.

01:44:21.000 We were staging it.

01:44:22.000 They have a fake nuclear spill on I-35, shot down the highway, total hysteria.

01:44:27.000 Then at midnight, they announce it was just a drill.

01:44:30.000 Well, we have these drills constantly where at first they announce they're real, sir, just to terrorize us and create this atmosphere of fear here in America.

01:44:38.000 You know, people always ask, why is it useful to study Latin?

01:44:42.000 It's such an old language and it's all gone.

01:44:45.000 Who uses it anyway?

01:44:46.000 Fee bono.

01:44:46.000 But Latin, you know, if you know what terror means, it means great fear in Latin.

01:44:51.000 That's what it means.

01:44:52.000 And if a country is in great fear, and probably the U.S.

01:44:55.000 is in great fear, or has been during the last five years, then the country is paralyzed.

01:45:00.000 You know, you will feel it when you go out and you're in a different country.

01:45:03.000 You will feel it will be different, but there as well.

01:45:06.000 Every country can be put under great fear once you use mechanisms that strengthen the fear.

01:45:13.000 And people can break... What I always say is, you know, I was born in the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland, so I had a very strong focus on Italy.

01:45:22.000 And when people then say, so what can we do if we see there is false flags going on, but it happens so quickly that, you know, we can't find out who it was and everything is so complicated.

01:45:33.000 And I always say, steer clear of the fear, because that's the only thing.

01:45:37.000 It's not the 10 people who were killed in the false flag who are actually the target group.

01:45:42.000 The target group are the millions who survived.

01:45:45.000 And they're not even aware that they're the target group.

01:45:47.000 They think, Oh, gee, these are really unfortunate.

01:45:49.000 They died in this nasty terrorist attack.

01:45:52.000 But as I said, in Italy, this terrorist attack targeted the rest, the surviving who thought they might be next.

01:46:00.000 Yes, the living are the targets.

01:46:02.000 And so, in the past, when the U.S.

01:46:04.000 had some real terror attacks in the 1970s, by some of the Reds, the media would say, no big deal, ignore them, okay, they killed a police officer, ignore it, let's not worry about it, don't have fear, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

01:46:20.000 So whenever I see a real attack, they will either cover it up, say it didn't happen, or ignore it, or say don't worry about it.

01:46:28.000 But then after a big event, when you know it's the government or one of their elements, you see the telltale signs, but also you see them instantly maximizing it, instantly leveraging it, and we see them with the endless fake terror alerts.

01:46:43.000 That's a form of terror.

01:46:44.000 No one is killed, and then the White House had to admit, as documents went public, that they were releasing those whenever something scary came out about Enron, or some new corruption scandal came out, they would bump it up to the red level, That was a mechanism of not even carrying out attacks but bringing the fear back and you can see who the real terrorists are.

01:47:01.000 The terrorist is the person who threatens a crime or carries out a crime for their political aims against a population or a government or institution and then you see the government proving they're the terrorist in most cases because there they are openly hyping the fear day one when it happens and using it and maximizing it.

01:47:23.000 I mean, what we have is we do have governments using the tool, but we also have, obviously, private groups.

01:47:29.000 I mean, you know, they're normal terrorists in the genuine sense, and I'm not saying false.

01:47:34.000 They do exist.

01:47:35.000 They do exist.

01:47:36.000 And what has to be emphasized is that what is very difficult to say is in a specific case, whether it was this classical normal terrorist that you always thought of as this independent union unit, not infiltrated by any military intelligence service and manipulated by any government or so, you know, like a genuine terrorist group, they exist, they carry out killings.

01:47:58.000 And they have done this during the last hundred years.

01:48:00.000 That's one group.

01:48:01.000 And on the other group, you do have state actors who just pose as terrorists and who use terrorist strategy.

01:48:09.000 And what is important from a historical perspective is that we always sit back when we see a terrorist attack and say, gee, OK, what was this?

01:48:17.000 Was this my tax money being used against me by the state?

01:48:21.000 Always do the private group that carried out another atrocity because both cases are always possible.

01:48:27.000 Exactly, so it's important doctor to just instantly question and research anytime there's an event and never give in to fear.

01:48:33.000 That's exactly the point.

01:48:34.000 We must research much more because what we do is we always get hyped up, you know.

01:48:39.000 There's the terrorist attack.

01:48:41.000 Next day, there's the answer.

01:48:42.000 And the day after, we want the death penalty.

01:48:44.000 But the saying doesn't work like that.

01:48:46.000 We get caught into a huge spiral of violence all over the globe.

01:48:50.000 And only later, if you look at Indonesia, there was the Indonesian president, Waheed, who said that the Bali terror, some of it, you know, military intelligence was involved.

01:49:04.000 And that's really scary because, you know, we gather data here in Switzerland and in Germany and in other countries and in Europe we've had this false flag terrorism for a long, long time.

01:49:16.000 We had it, for instance, in 1954 in Greece, you know.

01:49:20.000 Some people, the Turks, from the special forces in Turkey, they went to Greece and they went to a museum which was dedicated to Kemal and they threw in a bomb and posed as Greeks.

01:49:33.000 Now, next day, everybody got so steered up and thought, gee, these were the Greeks, you know, that the Turks and the Greeks started killing each other.

01:49:42.000 And it was all false.

01:49:43.000 It was a false flag operation.

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01:53:00.000 Alright, John, Ron, Betsy, Kevin, everybody, we're going to your calls.

01:53:05.000 Russ is up first, listening to us from Southern California on KCAA.

01:53:11.000 Russ, thanks for calling.

01:53:12.000 You're on the air with our guest.

01:53:13.000 Go ahead.

01:53:13.000 Okay, I got three points to make.

01:53:16.000 Now, I don't have the data with me, but back about 30 years ago, we got a CIA warning that the KGB had trained 10,000 ministers, secret agents, as Christian ministers.

01:53:34.000 Another point, and I wonder where they're hiding.

01:53:39.000 Right in front of us, on the boob tube.

01:53:42.000 And then another point, it was about the, let's see, we got the KGB, and then there was a, oh, doggone, I was writing it down so I could... Well, there was the GRU.

01:53:58.000 The TRU?

01:54:00.000 GRU.

01:54:02.000 Oh, I don't know about that.

01:54:03.000 Well, I think you're bringing up the fact that the Soviets engaged in this and Dr.

01:54:07.000 Sure.

01:54:08.000 Oh, another thing.

01:54:10.000 Oh, they bought up, they bought up Soviet block money, bought up all our publications when they were in trouble back in about the same time. 0.64

01:54:21.000 If the point you're making is that the Soviets engaged in false flag operation, then that's true. 1.00

01:54:28.000 They own Time, Life, Look.

01:54:31.000 You wondering why these magazines take the slants?

01:54:34.000 They do.

01:54:35.000 The ministers, The publications, the media, the mass media, they own all that.

01:54:42.000 The Soviets had for quite a while.

01:54:47.000 And then of course, you know, remember the Federal Reserve was what got JFK murdered.

01:54:56.000 Because he was going to institute those silver dollars.

01:55:00.000 Which would hit them right where they live in the interest-bearing money.

01:55:04.000 Well, I mean, he did issue $4 billion of $44 billion of Lincoln Greenbacks, little $5 bills.

01:55:10.000 I own several of them.

01:55:11.000 Thank you so much for the calls, sir.

01:55:13.000 Interesting points that you raise, and we want to thank our great affiliate out there, KCAA in Southern California.

01:55:19.000 Comments, Professor, Doctor?

01:55:21.000 Well, you know, this gentleman said, let's look at Russia as well.

01:55:25.000 And what we look at, if we look at false flag in Russia, it's obviously the restart of the Chechen War.

01:55:32.000 We had a series of bombings in Moscow before the war against Chechnya restarted in 1999.

01:55:41.000 And there's been a lot of accusations between Putin and other Russians saying, you know, this was the Russian secret service and they posed as Chechens.

01:55:51.000 What we have to understand is that false flag is a technique.

01:55:56.000 It's not something this or that nation does, and this or that nation never does.

01:56:03.000 It's something human beings do.

01:56:05.000 Yes, Doctor, you raised Russian false flag in 1999, the four apartment bombings, three of which were carried out.

01:56:12.000 I'm saying it could be your fault, by the way.

01:56:14.000 Well, Moscow police caught known members of SFB with the hexogen bombs in the fourth building.

01:56:23.000 I know that one, yeah.

01:56:24.000 Yes, and so that's why we have that story.

01:56:27.000 And the Chechens were saying, why would we attack you and bring your RAF down?

01:56:30.000 They didn't have the motive.

01:56:32.000 That's it.

01:56:33.000 I mean, obviously, the motive thing plays a role to sort of focus, zoom in on one group or the other.

01:56:39.000 But historically, it's always very difficult to sort of say, now we have the proof.

01:56:44.000 Exactly.

01:56:46.000 The official history very quickly writes, you know, it was a Chechen bombing.

01:56:50.000 And that is obviously too imprecise.

01:56:53.000 We must always look in more detail.

01:56:54.000 Was it not a false flag?

01:56:56.000 Yes.

01:56:56.000 And if it was, how can we prove it?

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Well, time flies when you're fighting corruption.

01:58:11.000 Already into the third hour.

01:58:13.000 We have our guest with us for three more segments, Daniel Ganser, and we'll tell you how to get his book before he leaves us again, NATO's Secret Army Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe.

01:58:28.000 We're talking about false flag operations, government-sponsored terror, government-provocateur terror.

01:58:34.000 We're about to go to John, Ron, Betsy, and others that are holding.

01:58:38.000 But I was thinking, well, after the break I'll get into these staged demonstrations for open borders.

01:58:43.000 Turns out the White House PR firm that Bush uses and Fox uses staged the whole thing.

01:58:48.000 How's that false flag?

01:58:49.000 You think this is some organic thing of immigrants? 1.00

01:58:51.000 It's not.

01:58:52.000 It's totally bought and paid for.

01:58:54.000 And they don't even know it when they're taking part in it.

01:58:56.000 A lot of times the patsies don't.

01:58:59.000 Let's talk to John in Texas.

01:59:01.000 John, you're on the air.

01:59:02.000 Go ahead.

01:59:06.000 Okay, John's not there.

01:59:08.000 Let's talk to Ron in New York.

01:59:09.000 Ron, you're on the air with our guest.

01:59:11.000 Go ahead.

01:59:12.000 Hi Alex.

01:59:13.000 Hi.

01:59:14.000 I called today, my topic is something different of course than your guest, but it is something very interesting and I wonder if most of your listeners are aware of this.

01:59:24.000 You know I noticed that there was a funny inclination on the part of the last two administrations, particularly the present and the one before to some degree, that they don't seem to utilize a veto and I thought this was kind of strange.

01:59:39.000 So I did a little research and I found out the reason for that is that starting with Clinton and coming on like a complete waterfall with Bush, they signed something called a statement or presidential statement of intent when they sign laws, legislation into law.

01:59:59.000 And he basically puts, you might say, a stipulation on the legislation he signs, in which he says... Yeah, you're talking about signing statements, which makes him a dictator, where he then orders the bureaucracy that he controls how to implement that.

02:00:14.000 And I bet...

02:00:15.000 The question of checks and balances, obviously, is the executive a runaway executive or not?

02:00:19.000 Paul's flag can comment on this, being a historian.

02:00:22.000 Do you have any comments on that, sir?

02:00:23.000 The question of checks and balances, obviously, is the executive or runaway executive or not.

02:00:29.000 I mean, this is a long debate.

02:00:31.000 Paul's flag playing to this as well.

02:00:36.000 but it's...

02:00:37.000 I wouldn't widen the topic too much because false flag is already very complicated as such.

02:00:43.000 Obviously, checks and balances among the different branches of a government are important as well.

02:00:50.000 If we want to go into that, we can.

02:00:51.000 No, it's alright.

02:00:53.000 The whole background, the whole table is set for martial law and total control and dictatorship.

02:00:59.000 I mean, the Western world is plunging into tyranny right now.

02:01:04.000 I don't hope so.

02:01:05.000 I must say that if I look at it from Switzerland, I'm astonished to hear how strongly you voice it, but obviously the danger that power gets corrupted is always there.

02:01:20.000 I agree with that part, definitely.

02:01:24.000 Ron, anything else?

02:01:25.000 Well, yeah, I'd like to expand a little bit on what I initially discussed.

02:01:29.000 The problem with that is you have the President, and if you look at the signing statements, he will indicate that his intent on the understanding of how the law applies, particularly to him, his executive powers, and how it should be implemented in just about every case is in stark contrast with the Congressional legislation that's been passed.

02:01:48.000 I mean, literally, he's using these statements to say he doesn't believe the law is applied the way it's intended to apply, and it doesn't apply to him.

02:01:57.000 I mean, this is...

02:01:59.000 Such a gross overreach of executive power to literally create nearly an hour... Well, Ron, I appreciate your call and I'll just add this little addendum.

02:02:10.000 A couple months ago, Bush signed a law that wasn't even passed.

02:02:13.000 Okay, buddy?

02:02:14.000 He signed a $2 billion spending bill that hadn't even passed.

02:02:17.000 He just grabbed legislation he likes and signs it without it even passing.

02:02:21.000 So, it's classical dictatorship.

02:02:23.000 He's announced he's allowed to order torture, even if it's illegal.

02:02:26.000 He's announced he can spy without warrants, even if it's illegal.

02:02:30.000 He's announced he can invade countries without congressional authorization.

02:02:34.000 And they're exercising corrupt power.

02:02:36.000 That's what a dictator does as they come to full dictatorial despotic power.

02:02:41.000 And so I'll tell it like it is, we're in a dictatorship.

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02:05:43.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:06:00.000 Dr. Daniel Ganser is our guest.

02:06:02.000 He's the author of NACO's Secret Army, Operation Gladio, and Terrorism in Western Europe.

02:06:08.000 And he has... Well, I'm not going to get into his whole bio.

02:06:13.000 Of course, he's a professor of history and several other disciplines and has been involved at the highest levels of the strategy and advising major organizations, institutions, but we're not going to cover all that.

02:06:27.000 I want to take calls, and we're taking calls while he's with us, and we're asking the callers if they're calling in on topic, and they're not.

02:06:34.000 I'll still take your calls, but it'd be nice if you'd stay focused on this issue because it's so important.

02:06:39.000 It's just incredibly foundational to everything we're going through right now, and it's complex in and of itself.

02:06:46.000 As the professor, the doctor, was just saying.

02:06:51.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:06:52.000 800-259-9231 is the toll-free number.

02:06:55.000 Doctor, let's get into some more of the terror events carried out.

02:06:58.000 You mentioned Indonesia.

02:07:00.000 What about Latin America?

02:07:01.000 Some of the other things that happened in Italy.

02:07:03.000 The Bologna bombing in 1980.

02:07:06.000 Let's go through some of those, if you'd like, and then cover any other topics you'd like to discuss.

02:07:10.000 Then we'll go to Betsy and Kevin and others.

02:07:13.000 Yeah, we're doing a false flag world tour here, right?

02:07:16.000 I mean, we went to Italy, we took something from the U.S., we went to England, had Israel, we were in Iran together, and maybe we should look at Japan for a moment.

02:07:27.000 We must think back again to the beginning of the Second World War.

02:07:32.000 It started in 39 in Europe, but it started earlier than that in Asia, Southeast Asia.

02:07:38.000 The moment Where you had a false flag there was in 1931.

02:07:43.000 The situation was such that Japan, the island, was facing China, the mainland, and China had this really interesting territory which Japan wanted to grasp.

02:07:55.000 So, with the Japanese, they went over to the other side of that little bit of a sea there, really, and staged and inched it, and they blew up a bit of peace there in Mukden, a railway road, and imposed the Chinese, and then the next day they said, you know, the Chinese Have attacked us there and we must go there. 0.85

02:08:15.000 It's always the same simple pattern and you know, it's not something small.

02:08:19.000 This was the start of the Second World War over there in Japan and China.

02:08:24.000 But it's always something very small and it seems not so important.

02:08:29.000 But if you look at it in detail, you will find out that false flag operations can have very grave consequences.

02:08:35.000 And in hindsight, 70-something years later, it's admitted, Japan later admitted that they had staged an attack on their own railway and blamed it on the Chinese.

02:08:45.000 Yeah, because they were defeated.

02:08:47.000 Then you admit.

02:08:49.000 And what about Latin America?

02:08:51.000 We've seen a lot of examples of governments carrying out attacks there to blame it on their enemies.

02:08:55.000 Yeah, I don't know too much of the data in Latin America.

02:08:59.000 The other obviously very famous one is the one with Cuba, the fight between the US and Cuba with Operation Northwood.

02:09:08.000 But that's already very well known.

02:09:10.000 This was the strategy of the Pentagon to say, let's have A few terrorist attacks and then blow down a shoot down them a drone which is an unnamed aircraft and then blame it on Costa to have a pretext for an invasion.

02:09:23.000 This is probably the largest or best known in the Latin American context, but we do have data also from from the Pinochet years.

02:09:34.000 In the Guatemala and Honduras conflicts.

02:09:36.000 I don't know the specifics right now of the cause.

02:09:41.000 You're an extreme expert on Italy.

02:09:43.000 Let's talk about a few other cases in Italy of false flag and then some of the people that went public exposing it.

02:09:50.000 One of the most important sources that we have in Italy is Vincenzo Vinci Guerra.

02:09:55.000 He was a member of Orgine Nuovo, which is A Catholic neo-fascist organization, and you know, he went on trial and he said, yes, okay, it's true. 0.91

02:10:04.000 I, I did this peteano attack in 1972.

02:10:09.000 And then he said, and guess what?

02:10:12.000 You know, the military secret service, They backed me.

02:10:15.000 After I did it, they packed me into a plane and flew me over to Franco. 0.52

02:10:20.000 Obviously, Franco was a fascist dictator.

02:10:22.000 So he was sealed off from, you know, nobody could touch him there.

02:10:27.000 And then later on trial, he said, you know, people asked him, but okay, then you were an actor for the state and people were very confused because they say, okay, I give taxes to the state and I hope that the state protects me.

02:10:40.000 And then they asked him, will the state now apologize?

02:10:44.000 And he said, no, the state probably can never admit that he did this and that he backed me in this.

02:10:51.000 And so people in Italy are rather cynical.

02:10:54.000 That's the problem in the end that you really have.

02:10:57.000 Dr. Ganser, I want to take some calls, but I first want to ask you, how did you first wake up the false flag?

02:11:01.000 that we sort of believe that we can elect somebody and they represent us.

02:11:06.000 But if we lose all these beliefs, then it's all falling apart.

02:11:10.000 Dr. Ganser, I want to take some calls, but I first want to ask you, how did you first wake up to false flag?

02:11:16.000 Was it when you were getting your doctorate in college?

02:11:19.000 When did you begin to discover this?

02:11:22.000 And then what was it like when you found out that so much of history that you'd been told was really a facade?

02:11:26.000 This was, yeah, I was still a student of history.

02:11:31.000 And somebody told me, look at Gladio.

02:11:34.000 And I thought, Gladio?

02:11:36.000 What's that anyway?

02:11:37.000 I knew that Gladio is this guy who fights in the old Roman times.

02:11:44.000 They fought each other.

02:11:44.000 And then I started to look at this, and I said, yeah, I want to research this more.

02:11:49.000 And none of my professors knew about it.

02:11:54.000 That was really in a waking point.

02:11:55.000 I was then at the London School of Economics and Political Science in the UK.

02:12:00.000 I was really stunned that most people don't know anything about it.

02:12:03.000 So the professors, all of those I really looked up to and thought they know everything.

02:12:08.000 They knew a lot.

02:12:09.000 They knew a lot about the Suez Conflict, about the OPEC embargo.

02:12:12.000 They knew a lot about globalization, world trade.

02:12:15.000 They were really knowledgeable people.

02:12:17.000 But when it came to dirty tricks, false flag operation and special forces, they had no knowledge.

02:12:23.000 So they couldn't give it to us.

02:12:24.000 And so I tried to find it myself.

02:12:28.000 And the rabbit hole was indeed deep and dark.

02:12:32.000 It was more dark than I thought, yeah.

02:12:33.000 Alright, I'm going to take a few calls, folks, but I'd specifically like you to call in and talk about false flag government sponsored terror 1-800-259-9231.

02:12:43.000 Let's go to Betty in Florida. 0.59

02:12:45.000 Betty, you're on the air, go ahead. 0.99

02:12:46.000 Hello.

02:12:48.000 Yes.

02:12:49.000 Alex, it's Betsy.

02:12:51.000 I have one question for you and I have another question for the doctor.

02:12:57.000 The first thing I wanted to bring up was, and I know you've addressed this, but how best do you think that we can support Cynthia McKinney right now in this supposed arrest that's going to happen?

02:13:10.000 Well, I mean, you talk about a false flag.

02:13:12.000 They've been harassing her.

02:13:14.000 She'd already told me about this privately.

02:13:15.000 We had her on as a guest on TV and radio.

02:13:18.000 And they would shove on her and grab on her. 0.97

02:13:20.000 The guy grabbed on her, she turned and bumped into him.

02:13:23.000 Then they claimed they had surveillance camera.

02:13:24.000 Now they admit they don't.

02:13:26.000 And now they're talking about, uh, you know, indicting her and have indicted her and are going after her.

02:13:30.000 And it's just, uh, the Capitol Hill police are harassing anybody that doesn't go along with Bush or under his control.

02:13:37.000 And we should just call for the grand jury to drop any indictments and to leave her alone. 1.00

02:13:46.000 There's a few people who's really standing up for us and what we believe in.

02:13:49.000 We should probably make an all-out effort to do whatever we can to flood her office with letters of support or flood the offices of our own congresspeople. 0.91

02:13:59.000 Okay, what's your question for the guest?

02:14:03.000 I wanted to ask him, because I didn't hear him touch upon this, does he think that assassinations, such as of JFK, fall into this false flag category?

02:14:18.000 No, not actually.

02:14:19.000 Assassinations eliminate the opponent, whereas false flags are actually to discredit the opponent and scare everybody else.

02:14:29.000 It's a bit of a different strategy. 0.62

02:14:32.000 I think she means blaming patsies like Oswald.

02:14:36.000 Like Lee Harvey Oswald. 0.88

02:14:38.000 That way.

02:14:38.000 Well, what you do have as a similarity is that obviously both involve violence, like assassination and false flag usually involve violence.

02:14:48.000 And they both, in many ways, often involve lying.

02:14:52.000 But still, you know, it is very important to say that false flags, specifically, I would really say false flags, need a sort of a terrorist attack.

02:15:03.000 If you want, you can take assassination in it, but I classically don't.

02:15:07.000 It's basically how you differentiate the terms.

02:15:11.000 Obviously, assassinations are an important point as well. 0.97

02:15:13.000 Betsy, I appreciate your call.

02:15:15.000 Let me add to that.

02:15:17.000 The way I look at it is there's different types of false flag.

02:15:20.000 You have the classical flying a false color for whatever reason on your ship or your uniform or your tank or whatever.

02:15:26.000 Then you have false flag where you frame Patsy's or you have the false flag that police officers or police detectives listening right now have had where they pose as a drug dealer and go out and sell drugs.

02:15:37.000 We're talking about governmental terror related false flag.

02:15:41.000 And it's not only, I mean, we must be very precise in this matter, because it's very complicated.

02:15:46.000 It's not only governments that use false flags.

02:15:48.000 Private corporations do.

02:15:49.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, every human being can use a false flag if he wants to, but it is, it has not been decided that the government use false flags.

02:15:59.000 Sure, sure.

02:15:59.000 Really, it's called a frame-up.

02:16:01.000 Yeah.

02:16:03.000 Yeah.

02:16:04.000 So we could boil false flag down to frame-ups, where I don't like somebody, so I plant drugs on them and call the cops.

02:16:11.000 Yeah.

02:16:12.000 Yeah, true indeed.

02:16:14.000 Alright, let's talk to Kevin in Alabama.

02:16:17.000 Kevin, you're on the air with our guests.

02:16:18.000 Go ahead, Kevin.

02:16:19.000 Hey, how y'all doing?

02:16:20.000 Good, sir.

02:16:21.000 Alright, uh, I called in about two days ago, and I have a question for the doctor, but, uh, I called in about two days ago, and I said, uh, I saw Charlie, I have pictures of Charlie Sheen at Illuminati meetings.

02:16:34.000 Okay, what Illuminati meeting was that, sir?

02:16:36.000 It was the Bilderberg meeting.

02:16:38.000 If you, if you watch the History Channel, And watch their little shows on Secret Societies.

02:16:44.000 You'll see them.

02:16:45.000 Alright?

02:16:46.000 That is totally false.

02:16:48.000 That is totally... Well, then I tell you to produce... Sir, sir, I challenge you to produce the clip.

02:16:55.000 Okay, you want me to produce it?

02:16:56.000 The name of the show, at least.

02:16:58.000 It is Secret Societies.

02:17:00.000 It has come on two or three times in the last four or five years on the History Channel.

02:17:07.000 Are you sure you're not talking about Martin Sheen?

02:17:09.000 Sir!

02:17:10.000 Stop! 1.00

02:17:11.000 Sir!

02:17:12.000 Martin Sheen!

02:17:13.000 Are you talking about Martin Sheen?

02:17:14.000 Charlie Sheen.

02:17:15.000 Well I'll call him and ask him.

02:17:18.000 But you've called before sir and it's usually pretty ridiculous so I appreciate your call.

02:17:21.000 Sorry if I don't just jump on whatever you're saying.

02:17:25.000 But I'd be glad if he'd been to that and was now going public.

02:17:27.000 That'd be wonderful.

02:17:29.000 Yeah, that's exactly who they invite to it is Charlie Sheen.

02:17:32.000 Oh please, this is just unbelievable.

02:17:35.000 You gotta love those type of calls.

02:17:37.000 Sorry about that, Doctor.

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02:22:00.000 But I want to take a few calls right now.

02:22:02.000 Fred in South Dakota has a question, so does Fred in Philadelphia, for our guest specifically.

02:22:06.000 Let's skip ahead to Thomas in Tennessee.

02:22:07.000 He says he can shed some light on the conspiracy shows, supposedly on, what did he say, discovery or history?

02:22:12.000 He says something about Sheen, which just sounds ridiculous to me.

02:22:17.000 Thomas, can you shed some light on what the last caller was saying? 0.95

02:22:20.000 Yeah, I just thought that was the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. 0.73

02:22:24.000 I'll just make a little comparison. 0.89

02:22:28.000 When the Pharisees and the scribes came to Jesus and accused him of having a demon, he said, why would Satan cast out himself?

02:22:35.000 Why in the world would the Illuminati be killing on themselves?

02:22:39.000 You know, the government gave us an ulterior tale as to what really happened.

02:22:47.000 What's his reasoning for this?

02:22:49.000 To make us believe that it was the terrorists that did this?

02:22:52.000 I mean, this does not make any sense.

02:22:54.000 You know?

02:22:54.000 It's like reverse psychology.

02:22:57.000 You know, giving us Um, giving us a fake story to believe what they, you know, give us a real story to believe what...

02:23:05.000 The government tells us?

02:23:06.000 I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.

02:23:07.000 Why in the world would he tell on himself?

02:23:10.000 Well, I mean, his father is in high up political circles, and he's always exposing DU, the war, he's against everything they're doing.

02:23:10.000 You know?

02:23:17.000 I mean, I guess there's some slight chance they do invite a few actors every once in a while, but I sincerely doubt it.

02:23:23.000 I'll definitely try to check it, though, and find out, believe me.

02:23:26.000 I'm already looking into it.

02:23:27.000 Listen, thanks for the call.

02:23:28.000 Let's talk to Fred in South Dakota for our guest.

02:23:31.000 Go ahead, Fred.

02:23:33.000 How are you doing?

02:23:33.000 Good, Jim.

02:23:34.000 Yes, I got a good question for the doctor.

02:23:37.000 Well, when one's dealing, and he stated earlier that his professors were ignorant of some of the information he has, and my question is, when the information does come out, and he does have the sources, and he does have the evidence, and you prove a part of it wrong, and he presents it to the academia, Did they resist it?

02:24:05.000 Because I've found an awful lot of resistance in academia.

02:24:09.000 Well, let me say this, now I don't find as much resistance.

02:24:13.000 He's talking about decades ago.

02:24:16.000 We're talking about now there not being as much resistance, because back then it was pretty much unknown.

02:24:21.000 But let me have the doctor answer.

02:24:22.000 Doctor?

02:24:24.000 Partly yes, there is resistance, but partly no, because there is also curiosity.

02:24:30.000 It's basically both.

02:24:31.000 What we do have is obviously if you publish in an academic journal, it's peer-reviewed.

02:24:35.000 And those peers, colleagues, can only judge the paper from their level of knowledge.

02:24:42.000 And if you come in with a new set of data, with new sources, new paradigms really, obviously false flags is something that has not been discussed in international history thoroughly for the last 30 years.

02:24:58.000 So there were, you know, some papers were not published, but then others were published.

02:25:02.000 Yeah, I found... What can I say?

02:25:04.000 Yeah, there is resistance, but there is also support.

02:25:06.000 Yeah, I found a lot of... I mean, to answer my point of view on this, I have found a lot of peer-reviewed papers out there by some professors around the world.

02:25:15.000 It's just very, very rare until now.

02:25:18.000 That's true, but I think we are also in this phase in a very, very changing world because many, many academics wake up to this reality of false flag operation.

02:25:27.000 It's no longer disputed that they exist.

02:25:30.000 The dispute is really, which one is the false flag?

02:25:33.000 Where do we know it?

02:25:34.000 What was the date?

02:25:34.000 What was the country?

02:25:36.000 Who was, what was the strategic framework?

02:25:38.000 And you, we travel the globe and then search every bit.

02:25:41.000 Let's take another call.

02:25:42.000 Fred in Philadelphia, you're on the air.

02:25:47.000 I got an example of Egypt faking a murder of a Libyan exile and tricking Libya into claiming that the man had been, quote, executed to liquidate the enemies of the revolution.

02:26:03.000 So they can do it, fake a murder, fake a kidnapping.

02:26:08.000 And what's been going on in Iraq?

02:26:12.000 As possibly the fingerprints of that all over it.

02:26:16.000 What was that specific case?

02:26:20.000 Well, it was in 85 and there was a gentleman who was... They took the four assassins into custody and then pretended to...

02:26:40.000 To kill this Libyan exile, took a photograph and sent it to Libya, or somehow Libya got it. 0.94

02:26:47.000 And then Libya, of course, came out with a press release. 0.75

02:26:52.000 A press agency said that Bakush had been, quote, executed by a team established to liquidate the enemies of the revolution.

02:27:02.000 And then, of course, Egypt stepped forward and said Bakush was alive.

02:27:07.000 Uh, a peer, a gentleman, who's appeared at a press conference and, you know, they got hay out of that.

02:27:14.000 Can we do a few more minutes, Doctor?

02:27:17.000 Just a few more, yeah, like five more and then we'd have to go.

02:27:20.000 Great, I want to get your comment on that and then finish up on the other side.

02:27:23.000 It's been a great honor to have you.

02:27:23.000 We'll do that.

02:27:24.000 Thank you, caller.

02:27:25.000 And then we'll take more calls and cover other news items on the other side.

02:27:28.000 One more quick little segment with our guest.

02:27:30.000 Stay with us.

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02:30:46.000 This isn't an example of a government-sponsored terror or provocateur of false flag, but it is an example of false flag under the definition that has really four different subgroups.

02:31:09.000 Over and over again we'll hear about an Al-Qaeda operative being arrested, and it's a big victory. 1.00

02:31:13.000 We've got number three, number two, number four.

02:31:16.000 Oh, he's giving us lots of intelligence about how bin Laden carried out 9-11, how they're going to get us any minute, and, you know, bin Laden's scared of George Bush and thinks he's so forceful.

02:31:25.000 You know, they always say what just sounds perfect to the propagandist ears.

02:31:32.000 But there have been countless examples, and there's been scores of them, where then it comes out six months later, five months later, two years later, that, oh, they were just staging the arrest of a U.S.

02:31:44.000 government asset working for the CIA or MI6 or Defense Intelligence, so that when they brought him into custody out of, quote, Al-Qaeda, to protect him, Really, they were government agents and they just staged the arrest.

02:32:01.000 Professor, Doctor, have you seen any examples of that in your own studies?

02:32:05.000 I didn't focus on these too much because if there were no dead, I didn't take it up into the data set.

02:32:12.000 You know, it really had to be a bomb killing people.

02:32:14.000 But what it burns down to really is that false flag operations exist and it means we can be fooled.

02:32:21.000 But there's one point I don't want to leave it at that because it could be that people, you know, I've said that false flag operations are designed to increase fear.

02:32:32.000 Now, information like this, you know, that false flag operations exist, can also increase fear, and that would be the one thing I'd really like to hint at, that that is not the purpose.

02:32:43.000 We should really say, okay, now we know it, they do exist, but we should not get stuck into fear, because that would be the counter, that would be just the opposite of what I want to do.

02:32:52.000 I want to say they exist, and we have to steer clear from being tricked into violence.

02:32:59.000 That's really the main message.

02:33:01.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:33:02.000 I've said many times that my broadcast may help the New World Order, may help the Anglo-American Empire, but if people take away from it fear, instead of taking away from it that we can change the world, we can affect change, we can expose false flag, and then take that tool out of their repertoire, take that tool out of their satchel of dirty tricks, we're trying to save lives here.

02:33:25.000 This is a positive thing, and that we shouldn't have fear.

02:33:29.000 That's true, because you know, I'm having the same thing when I teach a class of history students here in Switzerland.

02:33:34.000 I sort of explain them, they're between 20 and 25, and I explain them that these things happen, that we have the data, and the first phase they really go through is one of disappointment, you know, that it's so bad, and then the second phase they go into is a phase of resignation, they go, you know, then it's basically lost, what can we do?

02:33:55.000 And only the third phase is that they then look at their own emotions.

02:33:59.000 That's really what everybody has to do.

02:34:00.000 He has to look at his own emotion, realize that he's being steered by fear, and he has to unplug that steering wheel and say, okay, then I just have to steer clear of violence and sort of find my way without, you know, getting involved in killings and terror and war.

02:34:19.000 What do your colleagues think in the different circles you're in, sir?

02:34:24.000 What do they think of your work?

02:34:26.000 Some think it's great, and some think I'm making too much noise and saying, you know, you shouldn't talk about this.

02:34:33.000 This is really delicate, that's what some say.

02:34:37.000 And it is delicate, but you know, as academics, we have to be honest.

02:34:42.000 Bring out the facts, and we shouldn't filter them.

02:34:45.000 We shouldn't just, you know, tell stories that are true, and don't tell other stories that we know that are true, because we don't tell them because they're ugly.

02:34:53.000 We should try to be honest, like everybody else.

02:34:56.000 Well, he's a professor, he's a doctor, he's Daniel Ganser, and we really appreciate you joining us, sir, and your book is NATO's Secret Armies, Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe.

02:35:09.000 And folks, you can go to Amazon.com and get it.

02:35:12.000 We'll put a link to it up on InfoWars.com.

02:35:15.000 Anything else you'd like to add, sir?

02:35:17.000 No.

02:35:18.000 No, that's it.

02:35:19.000 Well, I hope you're happy with the interview.

02:35:21.000 I think it's been a great exchange of ideas.

02:35:22.000 Yeah, my pleasure.

02:35:23.000 And I've learned a lot, and I want to thank you for your bold courage in defending our civilization from its darker side.

02:35:32.000 I want to thank you for the future of my children, because I think with men like you and women like yourself out there fighting on the front lines, that we're going to cause a revolution or a revelation, a renaissance of understanding.

02:35:45.000 Yeah, Renaissance of Understanding.

02:35:46.000 I like that one.

02:35:47.000 And I think it's important to emphasize that there are loads of us.

02:35:50.000 I mean, you know, let's not get shocked and let's not get despaired.

02:35:53.000 There's lots of people who think, you know, enough with these lies and pretentious.

02:35:58.000 We did it for some time.

02:35:59.000 It didn't work.

02:36:00.000 Let's do something else.

02:36:01.000 That's the best news I take from this interview is that you're getting the same feedback I'm getting.

02:36:05.000 People are really waking up to this.

02:36:06.000 We'll talk to you soon, Doctor.

02:36:08.000 Thanks a lot.

02:36:08.000 You have a good time.

02:36:09.000 Vaya con Dios.

02:36:11.000 All right, there he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

02:36:12.000 He goes with God, I hope.

02:36:15.000 Amazing interview.

02:36:17.000 Amazing.

02:36:17.000 I learned a lot.

02:36:18.000 Did you learn a lot?

02:36:20.000 That's what I do every day.

02:36:21.000 This is what we do.

02:36:21.000 We research.

02:36:22.000 We interface.

02:36:22.000 We fight.

02:36:23.000 We work with people.

02:36:26.000 We research.

02:36:28.000 And that's a great person.

02:36:30.000 I really enjoyed that discussion.

02:36:31.000 I enjoyed that interview a lot.

02:36:34.000 Let's take calls.

02:36:35.000 And I'll also have a smattering of some other news we haven't hit here before we end.

02:36:38.000 We've got exactly 41 minutes, 5 seconds left.

02:36:41.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Steve in Indiana.

02:36:43.000 Steve, go ahead.

02:36:44.000 How you doing today?

02:36:45.000 Good, sir.

02:36:46.000 Hey, uh, I got a couple statements to make, then I got a question.

02:36:50.000 My two statements was that, uh, Bin Laden was trained by CIA.

02:36:55.000 He used to be a CIA agent.

02:36:57.000 Yes.

02:36:58.000 And, uh, on the, uh, terrorists, there were seven of the eight terrorists that are still alive.

02:37:03.000 BBC, yes.

02:37:04.000 Yeah.

02:37:05.000 Then, uh, the question last night I, I couldn't figure out is why are we building 14 bases, military bases in Iraq?

02:37:13.000 Well, that's 14 big ones.

02:37:14.000 There's over a hundred satellite bases as well.

02:37:17.000 One of them holds 6,000 employees.

02:37:18.000 They're giant armored extermination towers.

02:37:21.000 These are just citadels to conduct the extermination and the genocide from.

02:37:25.000 Oh, so he is going that direction.

02:37:27.000 Oh man, we've got to stop that.

02:37:28.000 I don't know what to do to stop it.

02:37:29.000 Battle planners say we'll be there for at least 50 more years and that it'll be the main base of operations to invade the entire region.

02:37:36.000 Oh, man, we've got to stop that.

02:37:38.000 I don't know what to do to stop.

02:37:41.000 Tell me what to do and I'll do it.

02:37:43.000 The problem is the government doesn't do what the people want.

02:37:47.000 It doesn't do what's constitutional.

02:37:48.000 It doesn't do what's righteous or decent.

02:37:50.000 We just have to expose them and try to remove them from office, but they're racing ahead to put in the electronic fraud-driven systems.

02:37:56.000 The White House was just caught publicly engaged in election fraud in 2002.

02:38:00.000 In 2004, the Democrats were bought off even if we were to get them into office.

02:38:04.000 We've got a tough road to hoe, but the good news is, is that Is that people are waking up and we're making hay while the sun shines. 0.88

02:38:11.000 Thanks for the call.

02:38:12.000 Let's talk to John in Texas.

02:38:14.000 See if he's there this time.

02:38:15.000 Go ahead, John.

02:38:18.000 He did it again.

02:38:19.000 Sometimes those callers call and they hang up and they get back on.

02:38:21.000 They want to talk and they hang up again.

02:38:23.000 I had this feeling he wouldn't be there.

02:38:25.000 Mick in Arizona.

02:38:26.000 Mick, welcome.

02:38:27.000 Hey Alex, great job.

02:38:28.000 Great interview.

02:38:29.000 Thank you.

02:38:30.000 Hey, your videos are popping up everywhere.

02:38:33.000 Popping up everywhere.

02:38:34.000 I'd like to encourage people to keep making copies and keep passing them out.

02:38:37.000 What did you witness that makes you say that?

02:38:39.000 Oh, I found them everywhere.

02:38:41.000 There was a street fair in Tucson.

02:38:43.000 People were passing them out there.

02:38:46.000 What films are they passing out?

02:38:47.000 A bunch of them.

02:38:49.000 I couldn't tell you all of them, but I have to say there's at least hundreds of them that I know that were passed out.

02:38:54.000 Good.

02:38:55.000 Oh, but it's Martial Law, Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror.

02:38:58.000 That's really exciting.

02:39:00.000 Hey, another twist to that terrorism, the false flag terrorism, is what I believe the police are doing in America today.

02:39:07.000 Did you hear in Arizona they passed a law where they would make the illegals they would make it so that cops could arrest the illegals for trespassing.

02:39:16.000 Yes.

02:39:16.000 Well, the legislature passed it, but the governor has not signed it yet, and all the police agents there are coming out and saying, oh, we can't do this, we don't have the manpower, we don't have the funds.

02:39:26.000 Yeah, I know.

02:39:26.000 So basically what they're, they know for a fact that when these legals come over the border, they're more prone to commit other crimes because they don't give a hoot about our laws in the beginning.

02:39:37.000 By the way, there are national and local studies that conclusively show that a disproportionate amount of crime is committed by the illegal aliens. 0.99

02:39:45.000 That's a fact.

02:39:46.000 That is a fact.

02:39:47.000 And they know if they were to round them up, the crime rate would drop.

02:39:51.000 And they wouldn't be able to fear-monger, and they wouldn't need all the police that they have.

02:39:54.000 They could drop, cut them out of police and have them.

02:39:56.000 Well, the Detroit police chief slipped up many decades ago and said the police aren't here to have order.

02:40:01.000 The police are here to create disorder.

02:40:04.000 And I'm not saying the average cop is doing that, but there's a reason, and I've looked at studies on this.

02:40:09.000 Violent offenders spend less time in jail than non-violent offenders.

02:40:13.000 Because a non-violent offender is easier to house, he'll work in the prison industry, he'll make money for the private corporation that owns it.

02:40:19.000 A violent one is expensive to house, and if you release them, they will generate more crime.

02:40:24.000 So they don't want to actually see the crime rate go down, because it justifies their bloated budgets.

02:40:30.000 I agree with you.

02:40:31.000 Thanks for the... Sorry, go ahead.

02:40:33.000 I thought he was going to finish up and I interrupted him and he hung up.

02:40:36.000 Thank you Mick, thank you for that good news.

02:40:38.000 Everything is problem reaction solution or frame ups or false flag, whatever name you want to use.

02:40:44.000 Blaming somebody for something you or one of your surrogates or minions did.

02:40:48.000 The government controls the major narcotics conduits into this country.

02:40:54.000 They know that nine out of ten home invasions 8 out of 10 car jackings are robberies, but the number is 8 to 9 out of every 10, depending on which region or which area or which type of crime.

02:41:08.000 But it's in the 80s and 90s, depending on which strata or sector of crime you look at.

02:41:13.000 And cops driving are nodding their heads, they know this.

02:41:15.000 This is the official numbers.

02:41:16.000 So listen, officers.

02:41:18.000 You're out there putting a tough job, dangerous position, for what?

02:41:21.000 It's a load of baloney.

02:41:23.000 The narcotics are shipped in.

02:41:25.000 Then the crackheads, the heroin heads, the pill poppers, break in an average of two houses per day.

02:41:35.000 That's what these junkies do. 0.99

02:41:37.000 They break into the homes looking for stereos, computers, jewelry, to then go sell to these god-awful pawn shops that are everywhere, make me sick, and they go in there and they sell it, and then they go out and they buy drugs, a large portion of it, going directly into the banks to be laundered.

02:41:55.000 Then, we've looked at the big cartels and the banks that launder the money.

02:41:59.000 They predominantly own the thousands of private prisons in the country, with over 2.5 million people in private prisons, 7 million plus total in the system itself.

02:42:09.000 They end up competing, lowering the wages of the average American worker because they work for an average of 20 cents an hour.

02:42:17.000 Now, that ain't problem, reaction, solution.

02:42:19.000 I don't know what is.

02:42:20.000 Create a crisis, offer the solution, and then get your original aim through via that system.

02:42:28.000 And so, the drug war is a great success.

02:42:30.000 If you look at it from their stated goal of getting drugs off the street, making our children healthy and happy, it's a total failure.

02:42:36.000 But if you look at the reality of it, more people in prison, more drugs than ever on the streets, more crime, more cops, more control.

02:42:46.000 They don't want the old-fashioned cop where somebody committed a crime, it was a big deal, they were going to catch you, did it?

02:42:51.000 You look at the old numbers.

02:42:53.000 Did you know when you kill a cop, nine times out of ten, they catch the person and convict them?

02:43:01.000 Did you know that when an American, an average citizen, a civilian as they call us in military terminology, gets killed, it's the reverse?

02:43:09.000 Or almost the reverse.

02:43:10.000 Two times out of ten.

02:43:12.000 Twenty percent of the time, they catch them, convict them, catch them, indict them, convict them, and prison them.

02:43:18.000 See, if they want to really catch somebody, they can do it.

02:43:21.000 And they do do it.

02:43:23.000 Now, if you look at the old statistics, it was over seventy percent of the time, a violent crime, you got caught.

02:43:29.000 They would hunt you down.

02:43:30.000 They would go to the ends of the earth. 0.96

02:43:31.000 That's what police did.

02:43:36.000 If it was a minor petty crime, Here's an example of what old-time cops would do.

02:43:41.000 And this is historical.

02:43:42.000 They'd catch a bully.

02:43:43.000 They'd catch 3 or 4 16-year-olds beating a 10-year-old up in an alley.

02:43:49.000 The kids wouldn't get arrested.

02:43:50.000 The cops would beat them up.

02:43:52.000 That was the old days.

02:43:54.000 Oh, you want to be a bully? 0.98

02:43:55.000 Here, we're just going to beat you up. 0.96

02:43:57.000 Because they didn't want to get you in the system.

02:43:58.000 They wanted to teach you a lesson.

02:44:00.000 The jails were very small.

02:44:01.000 They were encouraged by the judges and others not to put a bunch of people in the system.

02:44:06.000 If old Billy Bob was out drunk, they would just put Billy Bob in the slammer.

02:44:10.000 If he was falling down drunk, starting fights, they wouldn't charge him.

02:44:12.000 They'd throw him in the slammer until he cooled off.

02:44:14.000 The next day, they'd let him go.

02:44:18.000 But if you beat somebody up and robbed them, they're going to hunt you down and you're going to spend 20 years hard labor.

02:44:24.000 If you murdered somebody, 7 plus times out of 10, they're going to hunt you down.

02:44:29.000 That Texas Ranger is going to follow you to California.

02:44:34.000 And when you committed a crime, you thought about it twice.

02:44:38.000 Okay?

02:44:38.000 That isn't the way it is now.

02:44:40.000 I've had cars stolen twice.

02:44:41.000 Once in Dallas, once in Austin.

02:44:43.000 Nothing.

02:44:44.000 I got mad, slightly rude to the cops in Dallas.

02:44:46.000 I just said, fine, you're not going to help me, sure.

02:44:48.000 And I hung up after like 30 minutes on the phone.

02:44:51.000 Oh, the police came real mad and said, you didn't have permission to hang up.

02:44:55.000 Now we want to search this apartment.

02:44:57.000 I'm in there with my girlfriend.

02:45:01.000 That's America, folks.

02:45:03.000 And then I saw an article where in Dallas they were just going to quit even trying to go out and catch people who had committed car robberies.

02:45:11.000 And what happens?

02:45:12.000 Grand theft auto increases.

02:45:15.000 It's the same thing over and over.

02:45:19.000 Now believe me, police would rather.

02:45:20.000 I mean in the old days you didn't have just normal cops just everywhere minding everything.

02:45:26.000 What you had was detectives.

02:45:28.000 You had them out actually trying to do something.

02:45:31.000 Just 50 years ago, a cop in blue, he'd help if the car broke down or he'd help if there was something going on or a fight.

02:45:37.000 But a lot of the time, he was there aiding detectives and they were going around collecting data and watching people and seeing what's going on and they didn't put up with it.

02:45:44.000 Now we have the opposite.

02:45:45.000 You know, they say crimes drop, but really, when the advent of television and all the violent acts on it desensitized this, it clearly showed increased crime.

02:45:53.000 That's only one small part of the equation.

02:45:56.000 A lot of it's societal and the changing crime-fighting tactics, but the best way to see the graph is a mountain.

02:46:03.000 Okay?

02:46:05.000 And so in about 1991, crime hits an all-time high.

02:46:11.000 Then we go a few hundred feet down the mountain, but it's a 12,000 foot mountain.

02:46:15.000 So we went up to the peak in the early 90s, and now we're a few hundred feet down the side, but we're still up on the top of the mountain.

02:46:21.000 We're just a few hundred feet to the summit.

02:46:23.000 So it went up to an all-time high, it's gone down a little bit, But compared to 1955, we're still up on top of a mountain of crime.

02:46:33.000 And what has made crime actually drop a little bit?

02:46:36.000 What, over 25 states have passed concealed carry laws?

02:46:39.000 And you see on average around 24% Florida, Texas is in between those numbers.

02:46:44.000 Other states, within two years, crime plummets.

02:46:46.000 Because let me tell you something, the crooks know.

02:46:48.000 Why is New York, why don't all the crooks move to New York, Chicago, LA?

02:46:51.000 Because you've got all the gun control.

02:46:53.000 Detroit.

02:46:54.000 They know they can enjoy themselves, but in Texas they bust through a door.

02:46:58.000 They know over half the time there's going to be a .357 Magnum or a Defender Winchester pump shotgun, 12 gauge. 1.00

02:47:10.000 You come in my house and you try to hurt my family, I'm going to kill you. 0.99

02:47:14.000 And so that's why you don't come around. 0.99

02:47:15.000 That's why my family is a lot safer.

02:47:18.000 Alright, let's go ahead and talk to Let's go ahead and talk to Bob and Mash.

02:47:23.000 Bob, go ahead.

02:47:24.000 How are you doing, Alex?

02:47:26.000 Good, sir.

02:47:27.000 I was just thinking about, I know you really didn't want to touch on what was actually happening right at this time with the guests, but I was thinking.

02:47:37.000 Well, that's because the professor didn't want to get into it.

02:47:39.000 Okay.

02:47:40.000 Well, I was just thinking about what they're doing in Iraq.

02:47:42.000 I don't know if you mentioned this, I kind of tuned in late, but how for thousands of years these shrines in Iraq haven't been a target of any kind of bombing or whatnot.

02:47:55.000 And now they're getting blown up?

02:47:56.000 Yeah.

02:47:56.000 I know he did bring that up.

02:47:58.000 He brought up that the SAS caught dressed up like Arabs.

02:48:01.000 Yeah, I know.

02:48:01.000 He brought that up.

02:48:02.000 Okay.

02:48:03.000 Well, anyway, I just wanted to mention it.

02:48:06.000 Bob, I appreciate you.

02:48:07.000 Are you on an IP phone?

02:48:09.000 No, it's a really weird line.

02:48:10.000 It's the worst phone I've ever heard in my life.

02:48:12.000 Thank you for the call.

02:48:12.000 Sounds like an electric razor.

02:48:14.000 You're making good points.

02:48:15.000 I'd keep you on, but it's just too bad.

02:48:16.000 We'll talk to Nora and a few others on the other side.

02:48:18.000 Hit one or two final news stories.

02:48:19.000 You don't want to miss this broadcast, the final summation of it.

02:48:23.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

02:48:24.000 So stay the course.

02:48:25.000 Final segment coming up.

02:48:26.000 We've got about nine minutes left.

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02:48:34.000 Be sure to check them out.

02:48:35.000 And MarshallLaw911.info.

02:48:37.000 Never plug that baby! 1.00

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02:51:56.000 There certainly is and knowing is half the battle.

02:52:00.000 Nora and Bruce is all I have time to take.

02:52:02.000 I'm sorry to Elias and Raimondo and so many people.

02:52:05.000 Just call me back on Monday.

02:52:06.000 We're going to take a few calls though here in a second.

02:52:09.000 Texas stops arresting drunks in bars.

02:52:13.000 Operation Last Call program suspended after public outcry.

02:52:16.000 Austin, Texas did this three years ago, so did DC, and we talked about it then and they stopped it for two years, two and a half years, and then brought it back.

02:52:26.000 And World Net Daily, of course, as usual, takes credit for stopping it, not the national outcry.

02:52:30.000 After a series of stories on World Net Daily about cops going into bars to arrest drunks, some of whom are guests in hotels who don't plan to drive anywhere, Texas officials responsible for Operation Last Call have stopped the controversial practice in Texas.

02:52:42.000 Talks about the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission along with Irving Police arrested some 30 people.

02:52:48.000 They do it in Austin, by the way, mainly.

02:52:50.000 And it just goes in.

02:52:51.000 Folks, I have personal friends who hardly drink.

02:52:55.000 I mean, maybe a beer or two.

02:52:57.000 In years, I've known them.

02:52:58.000 Who have been in sports bars.

02:53:00.000 I mean, everywhere is a bar in Austin.

02:53:02.000 Most restaurants, almost all of them serve alcohol.

02:53:04.000 And you'll be there to play pool or play foosball or video games with your family.

02:53:09.000 We have like Dave and Buster's here.

02:53:10.000 They serve alcohol.

02:53:12.000 And here will come, you know, the Texas Alcohol Commission, they will come in and just have a paddy wagon and just arrest everyone!

02:53:20.000 That's been in the news!

02:53:22.000 And yeah, they got in a lot of trouble because they'd go into hotel bars.

02:53:25.000 There'd be a guy they see drink three drinks, they consider that drunk, and man, they take you to jail!

02:53:30.000 I mean, it's just, it's like last week, the police arrest people, don't even charge them, and they're taking them to the dentist to have their gold teeth ripped out, going, well, that's acid pulmonary seizure!

02:53:40.000 The story is, not that they're ripping teeth out or trying to, it's that they think you're guilty until proven innocence.

02:53:45.000 It's totally un-American. 0.82

02:53:47.000 So some good news though, they're claiming they're going to stop that.

02:53:49.000 I don't believe it for a minute, but at least they're having the backpedal.

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02:54:52.000 Nora in Michigan, you're on the air.

02:54:54.000 Hi Alex, love your show.

02:54:56.000 Thank you.

02:54:56.000 Great guest.

02:54:57.000 I just want a quick comment and a question.

02:55:01.000 This guy that keeps calling that's obsessed with Charlie Sheen being at the Illuminati meeting.

02:55:06.000 Does that mean that Joan Vian is a globalist because she's at all the meetings?

02:55:11.000 Well, we looked it up and made phone calls.

02:55:12.000 It's not true.

02:55:16.000 You know, I've learned so much from you, and I'd like to learn more about Zionism and Zionists.

02:55:20.000 I'm really confused with that.

02:55:22.000 Do you have something on the web or a book you can recommend where I can educate myself?

02:55:26.000 Well, certainly the labor Zionists, there's three different groups of Zionists, but two of the three groups are definitely bad, and we have done shows in the past. 0.99

02:55:35.000 You should go PrisonPlanet.tv, there's a two hour interview I did with, well the ads cut out an hour and a half, with Robert Galen Ross, and he really breaks it down there.

02:55:46.000 And we also have Ted Pike, two of his videos he authorizes to post at PrisonPlanet.tv, you can watch those there, or contact him and get a hard copy.

02:55:53.000 And we have done probably about ten shows so far this year on that subject, and we do cover it.

02:56:00.000 We just talked about earlier this hour about Israel carrying out terror attacks to blame it on their enemies.

02:56:04.000 So, alright, we're out of time.

02:56:06.000 But again, Zionists represent a very small number of Jews and a lot of people that just hate Jews use it as an excuse to hate them.

02:56:14.000 We love the Jews.

02:56:15.000 We love everybody here.

02:56:16.000 We love you.

02:56:18.000 We love the Mexicans. 0.96

02:56:19.000 We love the blacks. 0.95

02:56:19.000 We love the whites. 0.95

02:56:20.000 We love everybody.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - April 14, 2006

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