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00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:00:30.000 We're 30 seconds into this first hour of this live three-hour broadcast.

00:00:36.000 20th day of April 2006.

00:00:43.000 Coming up, psychologist, good friend of mine, Bill Vieth, who's an expert on the New World Order, another great Austinite, will be joining us in studio to talk about the world banking system and leaving the Bretton Woods Agreement, why the dollar is plunging, why we see gold exploding and crude oil prices having a skyrocket rise in prices.

00:01:05.000 It's all coming up in the next hour, and we'll have open phones as well.

00:01:08.000 Then we've got, well, the author of Adventures in Legal Land, Scott Stevens, joining us coming up in the third hour, just to get into the corruption of the court systems here in the United States, and how there really is no rule of law, and his view that no state is legitimate.

00:01:27.000 In the meantime, we'll be taking your calls and covering the news.

00:01:30.000 Gold hit 640 Dollars an ounce yesterday before dropping back down to $638.

00:01:38.000 On Monday it hit, what, $608, then it hit $614.

00:01:39.000 On Tuesday, again going to $640.

00:01:40.000 On Wednesday, and now it's Thursday, we'll tell you by the end of the broadcast where gold is at.

00:01:45.000 Then it hit $614 on Tuesday, again going to $640 on Wednesday.

00:01:52.000 And now it's Thursday.

00:01:53.000 We'll tell you by the end of the broadcast where gold is at.

00:01:57.000 Crude has gone above $74 a barrel.

00:02:00.000 It's trading above that.

00:02:03.000 Last time I checked, about 10 minutes ago.

00:02:06.000 Meanwhile, Bush on the heels of the Chinese President visiting Boeing and Microsoft.

00:02:11.000 And by the way, there were some cryptic statements made, that's the Associated Press' words, cryptic statements made about free speech on the internet by Bill Gates, then the murderer-in-chief, the criminal-in-chief, the Chinese president, hopped on his airplane and flew out to D.C.

00:02:27.000 to meet with Lord Bush this morning.

00:02:28.000 There was a heckler bringing up the fact that China steals the organs of murdered Falun Gong members, and there were Taiwanese protesters as well, but the protester that heckled Them during their press conference was drugged out.

00:02:43.000 So we'll get into that for you as well.

00:02:48.000 At the same time, Chinese man admits to plot to import 200 missiles.

00:02:52.000 Each missile could shoot down a large passenger airliner.

00:02:55.000 And of course it leads back to the Communist Chinese military.

00:03:01.000 This is right out of Reuters, Washington Times, Associated Press, you name it.

00:03:05.000 And by the way, the Communist Chinese were caught shipping in shoulder-fired missiles, and what, 3,000 plus AK-47s, and a bunch of heroin back in 1997.

00:03:16.000 That's in my film, America Destroyed by Design.

00:03:19.000 And so they were rewarded the next year with a Long Beach Naval Base, Panama Canal, many other places, and now they're running security.

00:03:27.000 In the Bahamas, and the nuclear scanning equipment.

00:03:31.000 But when a cop pulls you over in the middle of this country, say in Indiana, and wants to search your car, and without a warrant he'll say, it's a post 9-11 atmosphere.

00:03:41.000 We're doing this to keep you safe.

00:03:44.000 There's been a ridiculous raid, they're calling it the biggest ever, 1,000 illegal aliens and their bosses arrested from Texas to California.

00:03:56.000 There are conservatively 25 million illegal aliens, 20 million that are Mexican, 5 million others Russians, Chinese, Indians, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Salvadorans.

00:04:10.000 And, uh, the real numbers that I think are the most accurate show over 30 million now.

00:04:14.000 So when you think a thousand sounds big, uh, last year, this same time, they raided, remember, Walmart distribution centers and then a couple lumberyards and arrested, what was it, over 500?

00:04:24.000 Ooooooh! 0.63

00:04:25.000 Ooooooh! 0.63

00:04:27.000 That's like taking a thimble out of a swimming pool!

00:04:30.000 I mean, what is a thousand arrests?

00:04:33.000 Oh, they're getting tough!

00:04:34.000 We can...

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00:08:15.000 I figured I'd start the second segment here in this first hour before I get into the Communist Chinese murdering despot as bad as Hitler visiting Boeing, Microsoft, and now President Bush, and they drug a... I wouldn't call it a heckler. 0.90

00:08:30.000 They drug out a daring Falun Gong demonstrator who just simply brought up that they run death camps and murder people for their organs.

00:08:37.000 I mean, it doesn't get any more Nazi-like and macabre, and it's admitted they do this. 0.63

00:08:42.000 And our media acts like it's debatable.

00:08:44.000 Well, the Falun Gong claims this, and China says that they're a deadly, dangerous cult.

00:08:50.000 They're a totally peaceful group.

00:08:52.000 No history of anything bad.

00:08:54.000 No history of even stepping on a cockroach.

00:08:59.000 But no, China says they're bad.

00:09:01.000 So our media, pardon me, they're bad.

00:09:03.000 China says they're bad.

00:09:05.000 We'll get into all that.

00:09:06.000 Gold hitting $640 an ounce yesterday.

00:09:11.000 Oil going above $74.

00:09:14.000 It's set to even go higher.

00:09:15.000 They're speculating.

00:09:17.000 The analysts are today.

00:09:18.000 We're going to cover it all.

00:09:19.000 And we've got a big guest coming up in the second hour and another wonderful guest in the third hour before.

00:09:23.000 I'll tell you about them later.

00:09:24.000 But I figured we'd start with something a little bit fun first.

00:09:28.000 This is a little piece that got put together about some some folks they threw out on the internet we have a link where you can download it at prisonplanet.com and infowars.com it's a take off on the beatles song you know where i am the egg man i am the walrus cuckoo and uh...

00:09:45.000 it's uh...

00:09:46.000 it's it's i'd say dead on the mark except for a little slight anti-christian comment because people think bush is supposedly a christian and they really believe the propaganda that he's being led by god Yeah, he's being led by God, but he's being led by the God of this world that tempted Christ on the mountain.

00:10:06.000 Or attempted to tempt Christ on the mountain.

00:10:09.000 God of this world.

00:10:10.000 But let's go ahead and roll this little piece.

00:10:13.000 And on Friday I stood up and said I don't appreciate the speculation about Don Rumsfeld.

00:10:18.000 He's doing a fine job.

00:10:19.000 I strongly support him.

00:10:20.000 But what do you say to critics who believe that you're ignoring the advice of retired generals, military commanders, who say that there needs to be a change?

00:10:26.000 I am the only one and Remy's here and it's free and we're all together.

00:10:49.000 See the world burn when Dick shoots his gun.

00:10:53.000 See how I lie. 0.98

00:10:56.000 I'm lying. 0.93

00:10:57.000 Sitting on my own brain.

00:11:03.000 Waiting for the end of days. 0.99

00:11:07.000 Corporation profits, bloody oil money.

00:11:10.000 I'm above the law and I'll decide what's right or wrong. 0.98

00:11:15.000 I am the egghead.

00:11:17.000 I'm the commander.

00:11:19.000 I'm the decider.

00:11:22.000 Cuckoos that you bag that city.

00:11:25.000 Policemen sitting pretty.

00:11:27.000 Little targets in a row.

00:11:31.000 See how they die when strapped no flight, these mothers cry. 0.99

00:11:35.000 I'm a liar. 1.00

00:11:38.000 I'm a liar. 0.99

00:11:42.000 Sure. 0.99

00:11:43.000 I'm a liar. 0.99

00:11:46.000 I'm a liar. 0.99

00:11:50.000 Yeah, they take the pony up. 0.65

00:11:55.000 Imaginary WMD.

00:12:01.000 Because if I am back, expose some secret aim I'm the commander.

00:12:05.000 I'm the decider.

00:12:12.000 Cuckoo choo! 1.00

00:12:17.000 I'm the decider and I decide what is best and what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense.

00:12:23.000 Sitting in a White House garden talking to the Lord.

00:12:30.000 Well, my thoughts would be busy, busy hatching if I only had a brain.

00:12:34.000 I am Big Head!

00:12:36.000 I'm the commander!

00:12:41.000 I'm the decider!

00:12:42.000 I'm the president.

00:13:12.000 decider.

00:13:13.000 In fact, let's play that clip from a press conference Bush had a couple days ago, where he says, I'm the decider.

00:13:19.000 Not, I'm the decision-maker.

00:13:21.000 I'm the decider.

00:13:23.000 And then they bring up all these generals, in fact, who've been in theater in Iraq, saying the whole thing's a horrible disaster.

00:13:29.000 Fire Rumsfeld now, and he just snickers and giggles at first, totally out of place.

00:13:37.000 It's just amazing.

00:13:38.000 Go ahead and roll it.

00:13:40.000 Mr. President, you've made it a practice of not commenting on potential personnel moves.

00:13:44.000 Of course I did.

00:13:44.000 Calling it speculation.

00:13:45.000 You can understand why.

00:13:47.000 Because we got people's reputations at stake.

00:13:50.000 And on Friday I stood up and said I don't appreciate the speculation about Don Rumsfeld.

00:13:55.000 He's doing a fine job.

00:13:56.000 I strongly support him.

00:13:57.000 But what do you say to critics who believe that you're ignoring the advice of retired generals, military commanders, who say that there needs to be a change?

00:14:04.000 I say I listen to all voices.

00:14:06.000 But mine's the final decision.

00:14:08.000 And Don Rumsfeld is doing a fine job.

00:14:11.000 He's not only transforming the military, he's fighting a war on terror.

00:14:15.000 He's helping us fight a war on terror.

00:14:17.000 I have strong confidence in Don Rumsfeld.

00:14:19.000 I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation, but I'm the decider, and I decide what is best, and what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense.

00:14:31.000 Okay, so you're the decider.

00:14:34.000 And I've heard the neocons spin on talk radio.

00:14:36.000 It's very bad to have the military involved in politics.

00:14:39.000 That's police state, and Bush is trying to stop that.

00:14:43.000 We have a law against that, posse comitatus.

00:14:46.000 No, the law isn't that once generals are out of the military that they're not allowed to have their own political view, especially on something that they're experts on.

00:14:56.000 No, Bush is doing the opposite, putting troops on the streets, brainwashing children at public schools across the country, having urban warfare drills, saying he wants to get rid of posse commentatus, and that martial law might be needed if bird flu breaks out, or one more terror attack and they'll set aside the Constitution in favor of a military form of government.

00:15:16.000 And who said that?

00:15:18.000 Outgoing head of CENTCOM said that two years ago, Tommy Frankson, it turned out he was on secret White House $455,000 a year payola.

00:15:29.000 And the Governmental Accounting Office said that was illegal, along with the thousands of other people they've got on secret payroll.

00:15:35.000 And when Bush got caught, he said, I don't care if the law says I can't do it.

00:15:39.000 I'm the decider.

00:15:40.000 I'm above the law.

00:15:41.000 Get a view from my Attorney General.

00:15:44.000 His Attorney General, of course he's allowed to do this.

00:15:46.000 We're in a war on terror.

00:15:48.000 And that war on terror means brainwashing you. 0.99

00:15:51.000 Now, TooStupidToBePresident.com had this out about a year ago. 0.95

00:15:55.000 And I never played it, and I meant to.

00:15:57.000 Then Paul reposted it on PrisonPlanet.com, so it reminded me to.

00:16:01.000 And it starts out with Rumsfeld, it's a cartoon, up there literally with real quotes he gave in the past, because at the end they show those quotes.

00:16:13.000 That's what twostupidwouldbepresident.com does. 1.00

00:16:15.000 There's an incredibly talented animator there.

00:16:18.000 One guy does it all.

00:16:19.000 The music, the voices, everything.

00:16:20.000 I'm just a big fan.

00:16:22.000 And at the end of it, they again show the quotes, but it starts out with Rumsfeld as a cartoon character, like the beginning of every Seinfeld episode, doing some stand-up comedy.

00:16:31.000 Then it cuts to Rumsfeld in the Oval Office with the cartoon Bush.

00:16:36.000 So go ahead and roll that.

00:16:41.000 Was I really expected to adhere to them?

00:16:44.000 You tell me.

00:16:46.000 Are they called the Geneva Laws?

00:16:48.000 The Geneva Rules?

00:16:50.000 Or merely the Geneva Convention?

00:16:54.000 To me, that sounds more like a set of polite suggestions.

00:17:00.000 Now that I've briefed you on the unforgivable conditions at Abu Ghraib, I offer my resignation.

00:17:07.000 This really takes me back.

00:17:14.000 To the rape rooms of the Texas penal system when you were governor?

00:17:20.000 Oh yeah, I forgot about that. 0.52

00:17:22.000 Uh, how as a child you used to put M80s in the mouths of frogs.

00:17:27.000 Then throw the creatures in the air to watch them explode, you little Jeffrey Dahmer.

00:17:32.000 Good catch, but that wasn't it either.

00:17:34.000 Do the stress position, sleep deprivation, and branding you enacted as part of your fraternity initiation, BULL?

00:17:43.000 That's it.

00:17:43.000 We made 40 pledges sit with their heads between their legs all night.

00:17:47.000 If they so much as coughed, we'd kick them or tan them with paddles. 0.97

00:17:51.000 Finally, in the morning, we bring out this big old glowing branding iron.

00:17:55.000 Of course, when the story hit the old daily news, we got fined and had to stop.

00:17:59.000 Oh, do I just have to get out?

00:18:02.000 We could sit on the story for a few months and see if it blows over.

00:18:07.000 Sort of the Republican version of don't ask, don't tell.

00:18:12.000 I'd hate to ruin all the fun.

00:18:14.000 You said you had something for me?

00:18:17.000 Oh, as a matter of fact, I do.

00:18:20.000 This snuff video from one of our other interrogation centers.

00:18:24.000 Oh man!

00:18:26.000 You are the best Secretary of Defense ever!

00:18:33.000 You're doing a superb job.

00:18:36.000 You are a strong Secretary of Defense.

00:18:41.000 Then they have the quotes.

00:18:43.000 So many of the things you heard there were actual quotes, and the snuff film stuff goes on too.

00:18:46.000 I mean, the fellow's not joking around dealing with that.

00:18:49.000 These are SICOs, as many different former government high-level experts and the CIA generals have said here as the former founding commander of Delta Force.

00:19:03.000 Who is the advisor on the big CBS show, The Unit, has gone public in LA Weekly and on national television saying that torture is directly ordered by Cheney and that he actually enjoys it.

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00:19:25.000 It was also showed to select members of Congress.

00:19:29.000 And it is literally hundreds of times worse than what you've seen.

00:19:34.000 And, I mean, I get sick of even listening what is admitted in there.

00:19:38.000 Remember John Yoo, just a few months ago, the CFR meeting?

00:19:41.000 It got recorded.

00:19:41.000 We had a professor on that debated him.

00:19:43.000 CFR meeting in Chicago. 0.81

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00:19:51.000 Yep, yep, we torture children sexually. 1.00

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00:24:34.000 But I never get over the fact that our media has gone from criticizing China over half of the reports they put out in decades past that I witnessed on television were negative.

00:24:48.000 Now maybe 5% of the reporting is negative and China is worse than ever. 1.00

00:24:54.000 In their abuse, all the human rights groups that analyze the cases admit.

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00:25:09.000 Not to mention the mobile execution vans and the organ harvesting and the land grabbing, all of it.

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00:25:28.000 And we have his deputy coming out and saying they can torture children in front of their parents and then adding deviant sickness on top of it as if torturing children isn't bad enough and isn't deviant and sick enough.

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00:26:20.000 I mean, we're being cursed.

00:26:21.000 We are a cursed people.

00:26:22.000 We've gone from the most blessed, the most opulently successful.

00:26:26.000 I mean, I heard some spin today out of investors' business.

00:26:31.000 I heard a neo come on the radio going, look, we've gone from 800 people in America worth more than $5 million to 900 and something in the last year. 0.95

00:26:42.000 Oh, look!

00:26:44.000 We've gone from this many billionaires to that many billionaires.

00:26:46.000 It's grown by 8%.

00:26:50.000 Well, that's no benchmark of a successful society.

00:26:52.000 I mean, Mexico produces more billionaires and millionaires than any other country, even countries that are much larger, even more than China, just because the communist Chinese leaders are good at hiding it.

00:27:04.000 But the dollar has been devalued by 44% And so, of course, with the printing presses of the Federal Reserve on overdrive, admittedly, you're going to see increases in certain sectors of wealth.

00:27:20.000 But if you look at overall indices, we are at a higher level of debt per capita.

00:27:27.000 We are a debtor nation per capita.

00:27:29.000 That's private.

00:27:30.000 I'm talking about state, federal, or local.

00:27:33.000 I'm not trying to be negative here.

00:27:34.000 These are just the real numbers.

00:27:35.000 We have a lower debt ratio Versus savings ratio, a negative ratio than we had at the depth of the depression in late 1933.

00:27:44.000 We broke that record a few months ago and plunging steadily downward.

00:27:48.000 And people are paying off credit cards with other credit cards.

00:27:51.000 And then we hear all these financial shows.

00:27:53.000 Are the credit card companies going to get scammed?

00:27:53.000 Oh!

00:27:56.000 No!

00:27:57.000 They're using fractional reserve banking.

00:27:58.000 They're loaning out zeros and ones.

00:28:00.000 It's just all in computer systems.

00:28:03.000 It's all a Ponzi scheme.

00:28:05.000 The globalists want everyone in debt.

00:28:08.000 So overall, standard of living is going down versus inflation.

00:28:11.000 Overall, debts are going up.

00:28:13.000 Overall, every indicator of a society, educational level, test scores, factories, jobs, it's all going in the wrong direction, but it doesn't matter.

00:28:24.000 You've got these delusional yuppies driving around, most of them living in debt, posing, trying to keep up appearances, the British term, trying to pose as if they're affluent, nouveau riche, and they're not.

00:28:39.000 In fact, we have seen the real estate bubble begin to bust, which I think is a shame, because even though the real estate is vastly overvalued, it doesn't matter.

00:28:47.000 At least with those fiat dollars, as they devalue, you can still buy something real that has some base value to it in the final equation.

00:28:57.000 Gold!

00:28:58.000 I remember buying a couple coins here, a couple coins there every few months.

00:29:03.000 And over the years, buying at $200 an ounce, $230 an ounce, $250, $300, $350, and yes, we just tell Midas, I've been so busy the last three days, you're holding that gold for me, I'm going to buy a few more coins.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, I'm going to buy them.

00:29:17.000 I held them last week back at $595 an ounce, and I'm buying some bullion.

00:29:21.000 I've got it held, it's already what, at $640?

00:29:25.000 And am I selling my gold?

00:29:29.000 Now that the gold I've got has gone up?

00:29:32.000 More than doubled in value?

00:29:34.000 I don't see the stock market doing that.

00:29:36.000 No, I'm not dumping it, because it's an insurance policy.

00:29:41.000 Okay, I'll come back, take your calls, and a whole bunch of news.

00:29:44.000 Got some more clips for you too, and two powerful guests coming up as well.

00:29:52.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:32:59.000 Iran says they're not scared of U.S.

00:33:13.000 That's what their defense minister stated.

00:33:15.000 A communist Chinese agent caught trying to ship in 200 shoulder-fired rockets that can easily shoot down aircraft at thousands of feet.

00:33:27.000 And of course it's connected to The Communist Chinese military, our friends, have been caught trying to ship in these weapons before.

00:33:35.000 But that's okay.

00:33:36.000 I'm sure it's some deal with our government to pull something later.

00:33:38.000 Then they'll just take all our freedoms and grab all our pension funds and rob everyone like they're already doing, but just accelerate it.

00:33:44.000 Ordered out of chaos.

00:33:45.000 The worse the chaos gets, the more bedlam there is, the more control these people get over our lives.

00:33:51.000 And then they finance the takeover of our lives with their own money and pay it themselves.

00:33:56.000 I'm going to go through your calls fast, because I've got a bunch of news I want to cover, but I do want to take your calls.

00:34:00.000 John, Jeff, Jim, Ron, Mike, get ready, because I'm going to you quick.

00:34:03.000 John and Matt, you're on the air.

00:34:05.000 Hi Alex, how are you today?

00:34:07.000 Good, sir.

00:34:08.000 Good.

00:34:08.000 I just wanted to give you a little update out here in Massachusetts.

00:34:12.000 Today I found out, as I went in for my office meeting, because I am a realtor, that we were talking about one of Romney's plans to fingerprint realtors.

00:34:25.000 Which means, because I don't want to be registered with the government as having my fingerprints, I'm going to need to find a new job now.

00:34:31.000 Yes, sir, that's Homeland Security.

00:34:32.000 Again, I'm sure you've heard me many times talk about a two-hour meeting I saw almost four years ago with the former Homeland Security head, Governor Ridge, on C-SPAN, and they said, our national ID card to the driver's license, we'll have to have it to get into any job, we'll scan in to go to work, we'll have a national sales tax known as the fair tax, they're going to keep the income tax on top of it, isn't this what the neocons aren't?

00:34:52.000 Telling you, and everyone's going to have to thumb scan and biometrically every day to get into work.

00:34:58.000 The cars will have this on them.

00:35:01.000 Toyota is now announcing it and others.

00:35:03.000 It is a nightmare system.

00:35:05.000 It absolutely is and it looks like they're really starting to implement it because as I recall when I took my real estate license a few years ago, the test for it, they did take certain people's fingerprints.

00:35:16.000 They thumb scanned them to get your results.

00:35:18.000 That's how they did it.

00:35:20.000 Yeah, nobody asked you, and there's no law at that point.

00:35:23.000 Here, just come over here and do this.

00:35:25.000 And now it's going in the schools, it's going in the colleges, it's going in the businesses, the HEB grocery stores, the Safeways, for the employees, and at some test facilities.

00:35:35.000 When you do the self-checkout, it's an added security feature for you.

00:35:39.000 And of course, it's the very thing that most states already implemented.

00:35:42.000 Now by federal law, all are implementing biometrics.

00:35:45.000 Yeah, they have that here too in a lot of the supermarkets and even at the Home Depot, Lowe's Home Improvement stores.

00:35:51.000 And what I don't get is, they can tell, the computers can scan to see if whether or not you've checked something out before you actually check it out.

00:35:59.000 So that was a little frightening to me.

00:36:00.000 I mean... Yeah, it knows your algorithm, your history.

00:36:05.000 Listen, If just a few hundred people sue over this and say no, they won't be able to implement.

00:36:10.000 We've already held back implementation of RFID over a year and a half.

00:36:14.000 They're really getting angry.

00:36:16.000 At every front, we can say no to this.

00:36:19.000 Toll roads, all of it.

00:36:20.000 We just have to continue to say no, no, no.

00:36:23.000 Absolutely, Alex.

00:36:24.000 And if I could just speak to what you were saying a little earlier about the system and how it's going to be run.

00:36:31.000 Almost like a mafia system.

00:36:33.000 Well, everything's going to be a prison.

00:36:35.000 America itself is going to be a prison.

00:36:37.000 It's almost there.

00:36:39.000 It is.

00:36:40.000 Maybe your listeners have never heard of the Winter Hill section of Boston, where the Winter Hill Gang ran.

00:36:47.000 Whitey Bulger did hits with the FBI.

00:36:51.000 Sure, yeah.

00:36:52.000 I grew up there, and I remember what it was like when the cops were paid off.

00:36:58.000 By these guys.

00:36:59.000 When people were afraid to go to the store.

00:37:01.000 And I'm not scared anymore.

00:37:04.000 I'm angry because I don't ever want to see that come back.

00:37:06.000 And to have it done by the government means to protect my family.

00:37:10.000 Death is not an option.

00:37:13.000 I'll gladly die for this. 0.96

00:37:14.000 Yeah, you're sick of it. 1.00

00:37:15.000 We're not going to be ruled by a bunch of crooks. 0.99

00:37:18.000 I mean, it's despicable. 0.86

00:37:18.000 Thanks for the call. 0.86

00:37:22.000 And there's certain regions of the country that have been known throughout our entire 230-something year history where government corruption was never put up with.

00:37:29.000 And there's other areas like Boston, New York, Chicago, LA, where for some reason, I'm not saying the whole population, but generally the population is known for laying down.

00:37:40.000 In areas of the South and the West, where just a few times citizens revolted, and they called them, you know, sagebrush rebellions, Wildfire rebellions, people backed off and learned who the boss was.

00:37:54.000 Look, if you act like slaves, you're going to be a slave.

00:37:57.000 If you're not a man... Look, I'm not a tough guy, folks, but I've found in life it's just better to just go ahead and bring it on.

00:38:05.000 If somebody's going to try to push you around, if somebody's going to try to enslave you, if somebody's going to try to boss you around, I don't care how fancy their PR is, it's slavery, it's a fraud.

00:38:15.000 Jeff in Colorado, you're on the air.

00:38:17.000 Yeah, Alex, I just wanted to make a couple of comments about some of the things you were saying.

00:38:22.000 One of the things was about Dum Dum Rumsfeld and how President Bush said he was doing such a fine job.

00:38:28.000 Well, you know, he said the same thing about the FEMA director, former FEMA director.

00:38:35.000 Yeah, Brownie's doing a great job.

00:38:36.000 Yeah, he said Michael Brown was doing a great job.

00:38:39.000 And of course, he got ousted a short time later.

00:38:41.000 By the way, this isn't a joke.

00:38:43.000 Everyone has a poo-poo name. 0.98

00:38:45.000 Bill Vies is a good psychologist.

00:38:47.000 We'll ask him what that means in Bush's psychology.

00:38:50.000 But everybody has a poo-poo name. 0.97

00:38:53.000 Turd Blossom, Brownie, Pooper, Turdy. 1.00

00:38:56.000 I mean, Bush is a mentally ill sicko. 1.00

00:38:58.000 Oh yeah, he even said, and you can even play the tape back, and he said, I hear the voices. 1.00

00:39:05.000 And whatever he meant by that, but in any event,

00:39:09.000 You know, a lot of stuff is going on, Alex, and you know, this is a good example of how President Bush lies to the American people, and one of the other things I wanted to point out is something related to global warming, and there's these NASA scientists who help write a report to Congress called, Our Changing Planet, then they send a draft to the White House, and what the Bush administration does, his Chief of Staff, Phil Cooney, they edit the report and actually delete a bunch of stuff out of it,

00:39:39.000 And then Bush goes into the Rose Garden and he, of course, after they bog up this report to Congress, which they're not supposed to do, and of course he goes on national TV in the Rose Garden and basically false statements to the American people.

00:39:57.000 And he, you know, pretty much out and out lying to the American people.

00:40:02.000 That's what he does routinely.

00:40:03.000 Thanks for the call.

00:40:06.000 I don't believe in global warming because of the science.

00:40:10.000 I believe in global climate change.

00:40:12.000 Some areas are getting colder, some are getting hotter.

00:40:14.000 The sun went through its heaviest 11 and a half year cycle, if you want to get precise about it, over the last decade.

00:40:22.000 They thought it would go into a light cycle for the next 11 years instead.

00:40:27.000 Preliminary data from NASA and other observatories, private and public, around the world show that it's heating up to be 50% brighter, with a 50% or higher, they're saying, radiated increase of the radiation, the heat radiation, the gamma rays, all the different types of radiation that actually fuel the earth and heat the earth and run the earth.

00:40:49.000 We already went over this last week.

00:40:51.000 You look at volcanoes.

00:40:53.000 One major gas volcano explosion, not a lava flow volcano, but a major gas explosion volcano like Mount St.

00:41:01.000 Helens, which they have on average every two years, puts out more fossil fuel greenhouse gas emissions than all human activity in the last thousand years.

00:41:12.000 That's all the campfires, all the coal burning stoves, all the industries, all the cars for a thousand years.

00:41:18.000 It isn't a hundred like you've heard.

00:41:20.000 You go look at the actual numbers, it's really over a thousand.

00:41:22.000 They've done the ice core test in Antarctica and in the North Pole, and the Earth goes through these cycles.

00:41:28.000 We're on a 12,000 year cycle.

00:41:30.000 The sun's on an 11 and a half year cycle.

00:41:32.000 And so what they do is they globally stampede and say, we need a global tax on oil and on the industrialized nations.

00:41:39.000 And 167 third world countries are exempt.

00:41:41.000 That'll just ensure that any jobs that hadn't shifted overseas will finally leave.

00:41:45.000 The 20-something percent that haven't left that are industrial.

00:41:48.000 And it's just all a scam.

00:41:50.000 It's stampeding us with, if you don't do what the government witch doctors say, the sun won't come up in the morning.

00:41:55.000 Let's talk to Jim in Texas.

00:41:56.000 Jim, go ahead.

00:41:57.000 Hey Alex.

00:41:59.000 Alex, I believe ICE conducted that sweep through Dallas last night, not because they wanted to enforce the law, but they didn't want real Americans to follow the example of the criminal illegals from Mexico and riot in the streets, or march to the Capitol.

00:42:15.000 You know, They want to curb this insurrection before real Americans begin to realize that we can do it too.

00:42:22.000 And not only that, but this Reconquista thing that they're pushing, that's a property rights issue every bit as much as that Kelo versus Connecticut where they distorted the eminent domain from private to public into private to private, whereby they're taking their land, our government, And given to the favored groups because they can. 0.84

00:42:48.000 And we're not going into the streets protesting that when we should have.

00:42:52.000 The morning after that Kelo versus Connecticut decision, when they declared that we don't have the right to life, liberty, or property, that we should have been in the streets in numbers a thousand times greater than the Mexicans have mustered. 0.67

00:43:06.000 And because they're beginning to fear that we'll do that, they cracked down on The Mexican invaders last night... I agree. 1.00

00:43:15.000 ...gave Bill a little fear.

00:43:16.000 Jim, Jim, I totally agree with you.

00:43:18.000 Let me, in fact, I have a whole stack of news on that.

00:43:20.000 I want to comment on that in this hour.

00:43:21.000 So let me comment on that and we'll go back to the calls.

00:43:24.000 Well, thanks for having Bill Beef on also.

00:43:26.000 He's another Austinite with a brain.

00:43:28.000 And as you know, Austin's overflowing with talent.

00:43:33.000 I believe it's probably the epicenter of the revolt that's coming.

00:43:36.000 I agree with you.

00:43:37.000 Thanks for the call.

00:43:38.000 And everyone else agrees with that and that's why there's so many people moving here.

00:43:42.000 Who are in the movement, which at certain points is okay, at other levels it gets a little bit annoying.

00:43:48.000 But let me just try to comment on what you just brought up.

00:43:53.000 There are 20 million illegal Mexicans.

00:43:55.000 There are 5 million other illegals, conservatively.

00:43:57.000 That's the real numbers, not 14, not 20.

00:44:00.000 It's 25 million illegal aliens, Russians, Chinese, Latin Americans, Central Asians, Arabs, make up the 5 million Africans.

00:44:09.000 They make up 5 million.

00:44:11.000 And growing, by the way.

00:44:12.000 It's now starting to outstrip, in the growth, the Larican Quista. 0.73

00:44:15.000 Again, we're not talking about American Hispanics.

00:44:18.000 We love them.

00:44:20.000 The major polls, again, 67 to 70 plus percent of Hispanics are against it.

00:44:25.000 80 to 87 percent of Americans, when you average in Asians, Anglos, Hispanics, Blacks, it doesn't matter.

00:44:33.000 Those are the big numbers.

00:44:34.000 There's a whole bunch of polls, and they're all in those ranges.

00:44:36.000 I don't just give you one poll.

00:44:37.000 I give you the range.

00:44:38.000 You can figure it out for yourself.

00:44:39.000 It's somewhere in there.

00:44:42.000 But you can just talk to your neighbors.

00:44:43.000 This is the zeitgeist issue.

00:44:44.000 This is what everybody wants to talk about.

00:44:46.000 This is what almost every caller wants to talk about.

00:44:48.000 It's what people are upset about.

00:44:50.000 You hear our Hispanic callers agreeing with us from California and Texas and all over the world.

00:44:55.000 They know what's going on.

00:44:56.000 They understand it's to drive down wages and break up the U.S. 0.83

00:44:59.000 with the Pan-American Union.

00:45:00.000 Now, you got $25 million, and that's conservative.

00:45:04.000 It's really over $30.

00:45:06.000 My numbers are from government and private numbers.

00:45:09.000 A couple years ago it was 30 million.

00:45:10.000 It's now above that.

00:45:12.000 But let's just say 25 million.

00:45:15.000 And so ICE goes out and makes about a thousand arrests.

00:45:19.000 And they say for a year they had told these companies 13 times That these are fake social security numbers.

00:45:25.000 These aren't real social security numbers.

00:45:27.000 These are social security numbers of dead people.

00:45:30.000 You're not paying your taxes.

00:45:31.000 A bunch of scams are going on.

00:45:33.000 That's one reason that they're now saying that they weren't paying all their taxes.

00:45:36.000 So, of course, they're mad.

00:45:37.000 And that's what this guest worker program is.

00:45:39.000 They're going to bring in unlimited.

00:45:41.000 It's amnesty, but start taxing them.

00:45:44.000 As if they'll ever even get near that social security.

00:45:47.000 They are abusing these immigrants. 0.97

00:45:48.000 I'm not against these hard-working Mexican immigrants. 0.99

00:45:53.000 I've become against them once the Lovery Conquista, La Raza, Mexico, Oslon movements get them and they start running around with signs with white people's heads cut off openly saying we're going to kill you. 0.98

00:46:04.000 I mean, I've got it on tape. 0.97

00:46:05.000 Then I go, hey man, come on.

00:46:07.000 Listen, you're getting brainwashed.

00:46:08.000 This is a Bush PR firm.

00:46:10.000 Here's the Dallas Morning News.

00:46:11.000 Because they know good PR is racial. 0.75

00:46:14.000 Racial is very primitive, very tribal, very powerful. 1.00

00:46:17.000 It's in all of us and it's really got to stop.

00:46:21.000 So multiculturalism is really a governmental tool to get us all fighting with each other. 0.92

00:46:24.000 It's to make us all see our differences and fight with each other.

00:46:27.000 It's not for us all to get along.

00:46:28.000 Understand that.

00:46:30.000 You know, believe me now or believe me later, it's a fact.

00:46:35.000 So 1,000... I don't have a calculator in front of me.

00:46:38.000 Maybe I can do the math here just with a pen and paper.

00:46:42.000 In fact, you've got a calculator there at your desk, don't you, Scott?

00:46:44.000 What is 1,000 divided into 25 million?

00:46:50.000 Do you have a calculator there?

00:46:52.000 Okay, thank you, because it would be hard for me to talk and do that.

00:46:57.000 So what is a thousand?

00:46:58.000 I mean, every month or so they'll have some bust where 15, 20, 30 people at some golf course or some hotel get grabbed or they'll go charge people every few months, say in Baltimore, for the whole restaurant staff being illegal aliens from Mexico.

00:47:16.000 And by the way, I was talking to a chef when I was out in California

00:47:19.000 and uh... he was uh... he was talking about how well how it is you know they'll be russian chefs at one place and they'll only hire russians or mainly mexicans and they only hire mexicans and then basically uh... you get told by the white owners or black owners or hispanic owners sorry they can't talk to you anymore you don't have your job and these are degreed chefs that basically it's just like outsourcing computer jobs to india you train someone to replace you and then sorry this this

00:47:50.000 Kitchen is a Russian kitchen.

00:47:52.000 This kitchen is a Middle Eastern kitchen.

00:47:54.000 This kitchen is a Mexican kitchen.

00:47:57.000 And I've talked to a lot of people.

00:47:58.000 People in factories.

00:47:59.000 People in businesses.

00:48:01.000 I mean, it's getting so bad that the English speakers are literally being kicked out.

00:48:06.000 I mean, it's really going on.

00:48:07.000 In fact, they've called for, don't buy from the gringo, don't support the gringo day. 1.00

00:48:11.000 That's what it's called on their websites.

00:48:13.000 You hear on Time Magazine, you know, the boycott day or the protest day.

00:48:17.000 No, man, it's hurt the gringo, don't let the gringo know. 1.00

00:48:22.000 This is unacceptable.

00:48:24.000 You know, I go out and protest the Klan, I've done it over ten times, and I'll protest Mecha, La Raza, and the Reconquistas all day long, because I I'm the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. 0.87

00:48:35.000 And that's just how I am, that's what I do.

00:48:37.000 I just tell it like it is. 1.00

00:48:39.000 And so I get threats from the Klan, and I get threats from Larrick and Keistis, and I just don't care, you're all a bunch of scum in my boat. 0.99

00:48:48.000 And so, a thousand into twenty-five million. 1.00

00:48:55.000 Point zero, zero, zero, zero, four.

00:49:00.000 So, that's how many of the illegals they grabbed yesterday in this big, multi-state, five-state, one-thousand people arrested and their employers arrested.

00:49:12.000 Because they know it's... Listen, they did their PR thing and it's a bell they can't unring.

00:49:17.000 Everybody for the first week saw the Mexican flags and the pictures of whites' heads chopped off and the, this is our continent, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

00:49:24.000 And then the big UT Chicano study professor at Dallas, or at Arlington, I always just say Dallas, Metroplex, came out and said, we've got to kill all the gringos, it's a quote. 0.99

00:49:34.000 Used to, he just said, implement the plan of San Diego, kill all white males, 16 and older. 1.00

00:49:38.000 So when my son turns 16, he'll have to, I guess, go kneel, and he'll get a big sword, and, DIE DEVIL WHITE! 1.00

00:49:45.000 I mean, I guess I need to go ahead and report for, you know, to be killed. 0.99

00:49:50.000 I'm supposed to go, oh, you're so sweet. 0.71

00:49:52.000 Oh, don't be mean to me.

00:49:54.000 Oh, you're racist and not want the plan of San Diego.

00:49:57.000 I mean, I had the Texas Civil Rights Review go, well, the plan of San Diego was real, but these are downtrodden groups, and Alex is bad.

00:50:04.000 Talk about it.

00:50:08.000 Meanwhile, here are the headlines.

00:50:10.000 Turnt up, down place Mexican military incursions.

00:50:12.000 Homeland Security Chief insists reports of past 10 years overblown.

00:50:15.000 Yeah, cops being killed, informants being killed.

00:50:19.000 DEA, FBI, every few months, mass kidnappings, 800 deaths last year alone, plus 800 and something on the Texas border.

00:50:28.000 And here's another one, Minuteman to Bush, build a fence or we will.

00:50:32.000 Bravo!

00:50:35.000 So, I mean, we've got a group of people running around doing all this, declaring this is Mexico, And then the government, because everything's blowing up in their face, thank God, goes out and busts a thousand people.

00:50:47.000 If I see a thousand busted a day, for a year, I will say bravo and the government's turn the corner.

00:50:54.000 It ain't gonna happen, okay?

00:50:56.000 You'll get one of these a year.

00:50:57.000 I want one every day.

00:50:59.000 That would be scratching.

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00:53:57.000 The American Pronunciation Guide Presents "How to Pronounce Bill Deeth"

00:54:27.000 Bill Deeth: Thanks.

00:54:28.000 Bill Deeth: I just see Bill 10 years ago out of the Second Amendment rallies because we're evil liberals.

00:54:33.000 You know, Brogan's liberal now, folks.

00:54:36.000 Bush, as Bob Barr on the NRA board told us a few months ago, former congressman, George Bush is more anti-gun than Bill Clinton.

00:54:44.000 But I know, I was at the gun shop a few weeks ago and they told me that it was all made up and I'm just lying, that George Bush is just absolutely wonderful.

00:54:53.000 We're not going to be talking too much about the Second Amendment, we're going to be talking about the financial standing of this country and the agreements that have been made and the inflation of the money supply and foreign countries dumping the dollar, starting the dumping of the dollar That is coming up in the next hour.

00:55:10.000 Right now, let's go to Ron in New York.

00:55:12.000 Ron, go ahead.

00:55:13.000 You're on the air.

00:55:14.000 Alex, I'm calling up about two interviews that I heard on local New York radio this morning.

00:55:14.000 Hello, Alex.

00:55:18.000 Two separate subjects, but they were both shocking.

00:55:21.000 One was with Chris Simcox of the Minutemen, and he said that he had inadvertently gotten swept up in traffic, and as a consequence of it, he had to enter Mexico, and he immediately turned around and did a U-turn to come back into the United States.

00:55:37.000 When he did, he encountered American, American customs and authorities.

00:55:44.000 And they actually gave him a hard time and asked this guy, I mean this man is clearly an American, a generational American, why he wanted to come into the United States.

00:55:54.000 And they gave him a tough time of it.

00:55:56.000 Sir, I mean, many times I've been down to Mexico, just in the last few years, and literally, people, you know, obvious people from the colonies, Southern Mexico, with little cowboy hats, and their families pour right in front of you, and then customs shakes you down because they think you might be carrying Rohypnol or steroids or Valium across.

00:56:18.000 That's why they do it.

00:56:19.000 They don't care about the illegal aliens. 0.63

00:56:22.000 If that's their concern in search for drugs, why are you hassling an American citizen as to why he wants to come into the United States?

00:56:28.000 you're a retired New York police officer, they're looking for drugs.

00:56:31.000 If that's their concern in search for drugs, why are you hassling an American citizen as to why he wants to come into the United States?

00:56:38.000 Very specifically, that question was put to him.

00:56:42.000 If you speak to him, I know that I believe you've spoken to members of that particular movement.

00:56:49.000 I think he could probably... Yeah, we've had him on.

00:56:52.000 We've had Mr. Simcox on many times.

00:56:54.000 We have Al Garza with the Texas Minute Men in studio tomorrow.

00:56:58.000 And in addition, on another issue, you remember the very famous incident of the American contract workers that were burnt and hung from a bridge in Fallujah?

00:57:07.000 Yeah, Blackwater.

00:57:08.000 Yes, Blackwater.

00:57:09.000 What a rogue company.

00:57:10.000 Do you know the families of those men that were burnt and hung?

00:57:14.000 I heard another interview are suing Blackwater.

00:57:16.000 Blackwater has reacted to those families.

00:57:19.000 I'm telling you, Alex, it's criminal.

00:57:22.000 It's criminal.

00:57:23.000 They won't even tell those families.

00:57:25.000 They won't even provide them with the report that was drawn up as to the events that led to the death of their loved ones.

00:57:33.000 When their family members got to Iraq, Blackwater did things, wouldn't provide them with maps.

00:57:38.000 In one case, disarmed a man and sent him on a mission.

00:57:41.000 Rogue behavior on the part of that company.

00:57:44.000 That eventually led to those men being killed that way.

00:57:47.000 And these people are having a hard time.

00:57:49.000 They went to our government to try and get some satisfaction.

00:57:53.000 They won't even touch the issue.

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00:58:49.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Now into the second hour on this live Thursday, the 25th day of April, 2006 edition.

00:59:21.000 What would happen if Iran was caught through one of its surrogates, one of its minions, trying to sneak in 2,000 shoulder-launched missiles that can bring down commercial aircraft? 0.70

00:59:35.000 Well, here's the headline.

00:59:36.000 China's doing it. 0.93

00:59:37.000 This is the second time I know of they've been caught.

00:59:40.000 Back in 97, it was red-handed, connected to the Chinese military.

00:59:44.000 What are they rewarded with?

00:59:45.000 Running our port security.

00:59:46.000 Oh, you're trying to bring in missiles, heroin, and machine guns.

00:59:49.000 Here.

00:59:50.000 Chinese man admits plot to import missiles to U.S.

00:59:54.000 Reuters, a Chinese national living in Southern California, admitted on Wednesday to trying to arrange the sale from China to the United States of 200 shoulder-fired missiles that can be used to bring down aeroplanes.

01:00:05.000 Chao-Tung Wu, 51, pled guilty in Los Angeles federal court to conspiring to import the missiles for a buyer who turned out to be an undercover FBI agent.

01:00:14.000 Glad the FBI is doing something out there other than running around harassing patriots.

01:00:19.000 This is out of the Washington Times, Bill Gertz, Chinese military linked to missile smuggling.

01:00:25.000 Court papers made public yesterday in the case of California man who pled guilty to trying to smuggle anti-aircraft missiles into the United States show that Chinese general and state-run manufacturer are linked to the crime.

01:00:37.000 Chow Tung Wu, 51, of California, pled guilty yesterday in U.S.

01:00:41.000 District Court in Los Angeles to conspiracy to smuggle Chinese QW-2 anti-aircraft missiles into the United States.

01:00:47.000 It was the first conviction under the 2004 anti-terrorism law into preventing the spread of shoulder-fired and portable anti-aircraft missiles.

01:00:55.000 And the article then goes into how they basically, how it's connected to the Chinese military.

01:01:01.000 And later after the break, later in the interview with Bill Vieth coming up, we will get more into this.

01:01:07.000 And it mentions here that China's military has been linked in the past to illicit arms deals, including the attempted sale of AK-47 assault rifles to Los Angeles street gangs.

01:01:17.000 That was the LA Times.

01:01:18.000 And it doesn't mention the heroin of the other rockets.

01:01:21.000 That was in there back in 1997.

01:01:23.000 Wu informed the agent that there were 24 containers of weapons for sale including the missiles and that the minimum purchase would be eight containers.

01:01:31.000 Documents provided that the agent included a proposal for the sale from the Chinese company which makes the QW-2 and other missiles.

01:01:41.000 And the total price was going to be $18,380,000.

01:01:46.000 $308,100 the statement said.

01:01:51.000 So, our borders are wide open.

01:01:55.000 They're having staged events where they go and arrest a thousand people, which we did the math, is .0000.

01:02:03.000 Was it another zero you did in the calculator?

01:02:06.000 How many zeros?

01:02:11.000 Okay, so it's four zeros and a four, so five.

01:02:14.000 I mean, just think about that.

01:02:18.000 If they arrested a thousand people a day, what's 365 times a thousand?

01:02:20.000 That would be 365,000.

01:02:21.000 So if they arrested a thousand illegal aliens a day, what is 365,000 divided by 25 million?

01:02:24.000 Again, I'm not... A little over 10%, right?

01:02:26.000 So they arrested 1,000 illegal aliens a day.

01:02:29.000 What is 365,000 divided in 25 million?

01:02:33.000 A little over 10%, right?

01:02:38.000 No, a little over 1%.

01:02:40.000 A little over 1%.

01:02:42.000 Wow.

01:02:42.000 So we'll...

01:02:44.000 So So if for an entire year they arrested 1000 people a day instead of doing this once a year, it would only be 1% of the illegal aliens.

01:02:57.000 So we need to write an article about that and put that in perspective.

01:03:01.000 Now we're going to go break and come back with our guest Bill Vieth and we're going to get into some really important information for your financial future.

01:03:09.000 We're not selling anything either.

01:03:11.000 He's coming in on his own time.

01:03:12.000 He's done a lot of study, a lot of research.

01:03:13.000 I've heard him on the radio and other shows.

01:03:15.000 I've known him for over a decade.

01:03:17.000 So he's got the basic good information for you.

01:03:20.000 So we're going to go over all of that.

01:03:21.000 Then we're going to tie it into what's happening currently in the news.

01:03:24.000 Keeping with us, if he wants to stay into the third hour, we have Mark Stevens joining us with adventures from legal land to get into just how corrupt and crazy our courts are.

01:03:35.000 So it's all coming up on the other side and we will take your calls as well.

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01:05:54.000 Come on, Bill.

01:05:55.000 Two weeks ago you were riding a bicycle, and today you're showing up in your new car and telling me you're buying a house?

01:06:00.000 What did you do, rob Bill Gates?

01:06:02.000 No, John, I didn't rob Bill Gates.

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01:06:27.000 What was that website again?

01:06:28.000 It's www.didyourobbillgates.com.

01:06:32.000 Now write this down, John.

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01:06:38.000 Thanks, Bill.

01:06:39.000 I'm going there right now.

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01:06:43.000 Uh, you got this one, right, Bill?

01:06:45.000 Sure, John.

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01:07:02.000 Coming up in the next hour, Mark Stevens, author of Adventures in Legal Land, with a really interesting take on government, the state itself, is it legitimate in any form, and just the wild level of corruption that is now in state and federal courts around this country, and really the world.

01:07:20.000 He'll be joining us, and Bill Vieth will be riding shotgun with us for at least part of that as well.

01:07:25.000 Again, I've known Bill, he's never been on the show before, For about 10 years or longer, I've always seen with the Second Amendment demonstrations we have, we were barely beating Democrats and Republicans who were trying to restrict the Second Amendment down to almost New York style laws.

01:07:42.000 here in Texas.

01:07:45.000 And, of course, he has two different degrees in the field of psychology.

01:07:50.000 And he's done a lot of research on the New World Order.

01:07:53.000 He has a Bring Our Troops Home website with his wife with the yellow ribbon saying, support the troops, bring them home.

01:08:01.000 And he also has done a lot of other radio interviews that I've heard here locally.

01:08:05.000 He's been doing a fabulous job.

01:08:07.000 So I figured let's have Bill Veith in here with us today.

01:08:09.000 Bill, just tell people about yourself, how you woke up to the New World Order, your whole view on the left-right paradigm.

01:08:14.000 And let's get into the Brenton Woods Agreement.

01:08:16.000 Let's get into what fiat money systems are, the Federal Reserve, and what's happening today and what it means to our financial futures.

01:08:25.000 Okay.

01:08:26.000 Well, I...

01:08:29.000 Probably up until about six years ago, I was stuck in the left-right paradigm.

01:08:34.000 So I'm not predisposed to believing the way I've come to believe in the last six years.

01:08:39.000 But in listening to shows, programs like yours and other alternative media, I began to do my own search for the truth and stopped being so dependent on the mainstream media news.

01:08:50.000 So what I focused my research on was, you know, back when they used to say, if you really want to know what's going on, follow the money.

01:08:58.000 So I started following the money backwards, and I followed it all the way back to the people that print it out of thin air.

01:09:04.000 And it's really not money, it's a system of worldwide credit.

01:09:07.000 And so that's what got me started.

01:09:09.000 And then I realized that probably my conclusion is that if we were to magically go back to an honest money system of gold and silver coin rather than this fiat currency credit system, 99% of the world's problems would magically disappear if we could do that.

01:09:28.000 The elite get so much power out of the power to coin the money.

01:09:31.000 I mean, we always hear debates about who's wealthy, who's rich, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett.

01:09:36.000 They're small players compared to the old-moneyed families that have their funds in tax-free foundations that literally own entire industries, entire countries, entire armament factories.

01:09:47.000 I mean, these people are the true elite.

01:09:50.000 Absolutely.

01:09:51.000 I've read estimates that the Rothschilds' net worth is between $100 and $400 trillion, which dwarfs anything Bill Gates said.

01:09:59.000 Yeah, a top Russian economist pegs it in between there at $300 trillion.

01:10:02.000 Okay, that's within the range that I've read.

01:10:04.000 They've got about 55% of the world's wealth.

01:10:08.000 Yes, and probably if you add a few other dynasty families in there, it's probably closer to 75 or 80 percent.

01:10:14.000 Oh, exactly.

01:10:14.000 Just the Rothschilds alone.

01:10:16.000 The Rockefellers have got about 25 percent of it.

01:10:18.000 And by the way, major economic schools overseas know this.

01:10:23.000 It's taught.

01:10:25.000 In fact, people who are really in high-level finance, they all discuss this.

01:10:29.000 It's all understood.

01:10:29.000 There's almost like a false Let's get into the Federal Reserve.

01:10:36.000 I know you've got your notes there.

01:10:38.000 I've heard you go over it before.

01:10:41.000 The best way you've found to explain this to the layman out there and why this system you believe isn't good.

01:10:49.000 I would say the best way to explain it is by really going back to the basics, which almost seems so simplistic, it seems ridiculous, but nobody... I've asked over 250 people the question, what is the definition of a dollar?

01:11:02.000 No one's ever gotten it right, and until a year ago, I didn't even know what it was.

01:11:06.000 You know, here I've gone through the education system, a formal education, I've got two doctorate degrees, and I never learned what a dollar was until I went and researched it on my own.

01:11:16.000 And the reason that's so important, what a dollar is, a constitutional dollar, is a United States manufactured coin of 371.25 grains of silver.

01:11:26.000 And that's its value.

01:11:28.000 Its value is not measured in economic terms, it's measured in its weight in silver in a coin.

01:11:33.000 And that makes it very hard to manipulate.

01:11:35.000 You can't manipulate it because you cannot change the value of it if its weight is in silver.

01:11:40.000 For example, the value of an inch is not measured in economic terms.

01:11:45.000 It's measured in its length.

01:11:47.000 Okay?

01:11:48.000 Congress has no authority to change the value of an inch or the value of a second or the value of an ounce.

01:11:54.000 Those are our standard weights and measures.

01:11:56.000 It's the same with a dollar.

01:11:58.000 And when you have honest weights and measures, it engineers the economy to be based in a free market system where actual labor and ideas are valued and those individuals rise.

01:12:09.000 But in a fiat system, it allows these wicked control freaks to get total control. 1.00

01:12:14.000 Well, absolutely.

01:12:15.000 And the main reason it does that in the free market system is the dollar, you have to have a constant.

01:12:22.000 That never changes value and then you can measure the change in every other dependent variable if you have that constant independent variable.

01:12:30.000 But in the fiat dollar it floats so we never know what its value is so we can never accurately measure the change in the value of anything else because we're never holding anything constant.

01:12:40.000 So it doesn't matter if it's a silver coin we could have our standard unit of measurement for money could be a bag of Sand.

01:12:49.000 And as long as we hold that constant and never change it, we can still measure the value of everything else.

01:12:55.000 It could be salt.

01:12:56.000 It could be in the past slaves.

01:12:57.000 It could be armaments.

01:12:59.000 It could be seashells with two holes in them.

01:13:01.000 Right.

01:13:02.000 It can be anything as long as you hold one thing constant.

01:13:05.000 But if we allowed the value of our inch to float every day, it would mess up our whole world.

01:13:11.000 We couldn't measure anything.

01:13:12.000 We wouldn't know what we were getting.

01:13:15.000 And that's part of the deception.

01:13:16.000 Not only do these elites literally own the private printing presses known as the world's central banks, and then invade countries that don't have those and install those central banks as control systems that control the entire economic system.

01:13:29.000 At the same time, the people aren't able to truly measure what's really happening to them, and it's simply they have their view economically based on the propaganda.

01:13:38.000 Absolutely, and like when you say propaganda, see, we've allowed them to control the language, and I call it verbicide.

01:13:45.000 They have literally done homicide on the verbiage.

01:13:48.000 Well, that's what Eric Blair, known as George Arwell, wrote about, is how they were destroying words, shortening words, manipulating their meanings.

01:13:55.000 Now, it's not that I'm even that smart, but now it's hard for me to even communicate with even educated people because they've been given a false lexicon or a false encyclopedia, And they can't even communicate now.

01:14:08.000 That's exactly right, and one of the main things they've done it with is the dollar.

01:14:12.000 They haven't changed what a constitutional dollar is, they've only changed the verbiage that describes it.

01:14:18.000 So now we have a fiat dollar that we call a dollar, and it's not a dollar.

01:14:22.000 It's a unit of debt.

01:14:24.000 It's a piece of paper that signifies there is a debt out there.

01:14:28.000 Here's an example.

01:14:29.000 If we would have stayed on the silver system or the gold system, which some of the Arabs, even the Chinese, are now trying to move to, which is really going to mess us up. 0.99

01:14:37.000 If we would have done that, Bush in five years wouldn't have been able to devalue the dollar by design by 44%.

01:14:46.000 George Bush and his globalist controllers, make no mistake, he's a puppet, wouldn't have been able to play all these games.

01:14:53.000 That is a huge tax on your wealth.

01:14:55.000 And now the new Fed Chief is saying it's unlimited.

01:14:57.000 They're going to go wild.

01:14:59.000 And then the banks, by the way, are able to loan out 9, 10, sometimes 20 times per dollar you put in the bank.

01:15:06.000 They then loan out fiat currency that's just on a sheet of paper or in a computer.

01:15:11.000 And then they want you to default.

01:15:13.000 They want you to not pay the credit cards.

01:15:14.000 They want you to not pay for the mortgage.

01:15:16.000 Then they get real tangible assets.

01:15:18.000 A Ponzi scheme isn't a strong enough word.

01:15:21.000 It is a carnival barker, grifter, shell game.

01:15:25.000 Absolutely.

01:15:27.000 Basically, we have global loan sharks.

01:15:30.000 And what they lend, they create out of thin air.

01:15:32.000 They create it out of nothing.

01:15:33.000 They lend credit.

01:15:35.000 And to them, it's credit.

01:15:36.000 To us, it's debt.

01:15:37.000 And they're putting the world in debt through this false monetary system.

01:15:41.000 And it's really, to use a physics term, it's a black hole where nothing can escape.

01:15:48.000 It is designed to build to a certain point and then blow the Ponzi scheme and then everyone basically becomes sharecroppers who owe their souls to the company store.

01:15:57.000 It's that same thing of where they would pay people, sharecroppers were basically slaves that didn't know it, Not enough to ever get out of debt, and they'd buy everything at inflated prices from a company store, and you'd have people for generations that are literally slaves.

01:16:10.000 Absolutely.

01:16:11.000 Well, it's the same principle as, suppose four of us sat down to play the game Monopoly.

01:16:16.000 And we all get a certain amount of money to start the game to purchase properties so we can collect rent on those properties.

01:16:22.000 Well, suppose one of those four entities playing the game could reach under the table and had an unlimited supply of these Monopoly dollars.

01:16:32.000 Ooh, that's a better analogy.

01:16:33.000 I'm going to steal that.

01:16:34.000 Yeah, you can take it.

01:16:34.000 I mean, that guy will wind up with all of the property on the board, and everybody else will be a renter or a debtor to that person.

01:16:42.000 Yeah, you and I get $100 a piece, and then he's got an 18-wheeler full of hundreds.

01:16:46.000 Right.

01:16:47.000 Or he's got an endless supply.

01:16:48.000 He creates it out of thin air.

01:16:50.000 You can't beat him.

01:16:51.000 And then he even loans it to us for real assets we've got.

01:16:53.000 Exactly.

01:16:54.000 You cannot beat that game, and that's the game that's going on.

01:16:54.000 Exactly.

01:16:58.000 Every single country in the world, their central banks have a fiat currency system.

01:17:02.000 There are no countries that trade in gold and silver coin.

01:17:05.000 Well, at least at a casino, it's $60, $40, $70, $30, $55, $45.

01:17:06.000 casino, it's 60-40, 70-30, 55-45.

01:17:11.000 And of course, that's a total scam.

01:17:13.000 But this is a casino where there's no way to win, unless you're an insider.

01:17:18.000 You cannot win, and they have imposed this on the entire world, and that's the way they're going to move their one-world government forward, is through the currency.

01:17:26.000 I had Walter Berry on a few days ago, and I've looked at all his documents, even the former Comptroller of the Air Force says it's true, and the government investments, and this is off-budget, as you know, but for the listeners, The government investments and just cream, you know, in the black, extra money that they don't even discuss, every year is almost triple the entire GDP of the American people now.

01:17:48.000 I mean, it's just, it's off the charts la-la land.

01:17:52.000 He said now, I had him on a few years ago, it was up at 75% that they owned, and this is corporations and government merging, now he says it's 83%, in just a few more years they're going to own everything.

01:18:04.000 And every time they issue more credit into the worldwide system, it dilutes the purchasing power of the credit instruments that are already in circulation, and that's a tax on the people, and it's a way to enslave the people.

01:18:17.000 I mean, you're a middle class guy.

01:18:19.000 Would you rather have Bush's 6% on average tax cut, I don't know what bracket you're in, but let's say 6% for someone in the middle income, would you rather, and I want you to answer this over the break, would you rather have that 6% cut, or would you rather have your dollar not be devalued by 44%?

01:18:32.000 So I want to get your answer on that when we get back.

01:18:34.000 And then let's get into the Bretton Woods Agreement and how this is all set up and what you think geopolitically is going on.

01:18:39.000 Because we had this global agreement to not dump the dollar, but now we see a rebellion, or is it staged?

01:18:46.000 Your opinion, why are people moving away from the dollar?

01:18:48.000 Why is it in free fall?

01:18:49.000 And why does Bush say that's good?

01:18:51.000 We'll be right back with Bill Dee.

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01:23:07.000 Welcome back.

01:23:08.000 Bill Vieth, psychologist, good friend of mine, local Austinite activist, joins us.

01:23:13.000 We've done a lot of studying on the agreements that were made about how to set up the world financial system right after World War II, and then again they had meetings in the 80s, and now it seems that that old order is breaking up.

01:23:25.000 Give us your take on it historically, walk us through it, and then, oh, but first off, answer that question.

01:23:30.000 Would you rather have a 6% tax cut or have your dollar not be No question I'd rather not have the dollar devalued.

01:23:43.000 Thirty-nine percent.

01:23:44.000 Absolutely.

01:23:45.000 I mean, you know, the history of fiat currency shows that every single one in history eventually reaches its intrinsic value, which is zero.

01:23:53.000 And there's not one exception.

01:23:54.000 And there's no reason to think that the United States dollar would be an exception to that rule.

01:23:58.000 They're debasing it.

01:23:59.000 And once it starts its plunge, it never stops.

01:24:04.000 Gold hitting $640 an ounce yesterday.

01:24:09.000 Going back down to $638, oil going above $74 a barrel crude.

01:24:13.000 Comments on that?

01:24:14.000 Well, that's not gold going up or oil going up.

01:24:19.000 That's the purchasing power of the dollar going down.

01:24:22.000 As they dilute the credit into the system, it takes more of those pieces of paper to purchase the same items.

01:24:31.000 If you look at them against each other, they're not changing in value.

01:24:34.000 The only person I heard in mainstream media to tell the truth on this was John Stossel.

01:24:38.000 Locally, on Kelby Jay, they air his reports sometimes, and there he was admitting it, but he was acting like it was okay then.

01:24:45.000 No, it's not okay.

01:24:47.000 No, it's not okay, and I think, again, we should not adopt the language of the globalists.

01:24:52.000 See, I make a distinction between the word value and the word purchasing power.

01:24:57.000 Values don't change.

01:24:59.000 The value of an inch doesn't change.

01:25:00.000 The value of a dollar doesn't change.

01:25:02.000 It's 371.25 grains of silver.

01:25:05.000 But the purchasing power of the fiat dollar changes minute to minute.

01:25:09.000 Second to second on the mercantilism.

01:25:12.000 I agree with you.

01:25:12.000 You're right.

01:25:13.000 So get into the history of some of this for people.

01:25:17.000 Starting about what year would you like me to start?

01:25:19.000 Wherever you like.

01:25:20.000 Well, you know, right from the beginning, from the adoption of the Constitution, the central bankers from Europe had always been trying to impose a central banking system of paper credit into the society, and the founding fathers knew what that, you know, would entail, so they He gave certain powers to Congress and said that Congress had the power to coin money.

01:25:49.000 And money was defined basically as a gold and silver coin.

01:25:53.000 And Congress was prohibited from emitting bills of credit, which is what we have now.

01:25:59.000 And so there was always this pressure right from the beginning to establish a central bank where they could impose bills of credit on us and get away from an honest monetary system.

01:26:09.000 So it went through several machinations over time, and then the Federal Reserve came into existence in 1913, and that was the beginning of the end.

01:26:17.000 But the first 20 years of the Federal Reserve, those pieces of paper, those dollars, were redeemable on demand for gold or silver coin.

01:26:27.000 In 1933, as we know, Roosevelt came in and basically stole the money from the people by making them turn in their gold to the central banks.

01:26:36.000 And a lot of people, when they hear this, email me and say, that's not true.

01:26:39.000 I've talked to my grandmother.

01:26:41.000 It's part of the public record.

01:26:42.000 In 1933, he got into office.

01:26:44.000 He said, turn all your gold in.

01:26:45.000 And once he got the gold, overnight, he said, we're allowed to sell it to Europe.

01:26:49.000 They basically gave it to Europe.

01:26:50.000 And then overnight, they doubled the price.

01:26:53.000 And you know, actually, most of the gold had already been turned in because people would take their gold to the central banks and get these receipts for the gold, which we call dollars, believing that those receipts, those pieces of paper, would be redeemable on demand.

01:27:08.000 And they were for 20 years.

01:27:10.000 And so as people began to realize, hey, this is pretty good.

01:27:13.000 Every time I take my paper in, I'm given gold or silver, they would take more gold down to store.

01:27:19.000 And so once the central banks had most of the gold, then they stole it.

01:27:23.000 The U.S.

01:27:23.000 government, folks, outlawed gold, openly shipped it to Europe.

01:27:27.000 They would arrest you if you didn't turn your gold in.

01:27:29.000 And I understand that.

01:27:31.000 And they gave you paper back.

01:27:33.000 Right.

01:27:34.000 And you know, the Constitution says only gold and silver coin is money.

01:27:37.000 So they literally stole the money from the people.

01:27:40.000 Okay, then, but they didn't do it with silver.

01:27:42.000 Silver was still, so we've always had a bimetallic, we've always had a silver standard.

01:27:47.000 The silver dollar is the unit of account.

01:27:49.000 We've never been on a gold standard.

01:27:52.000 Yes, for a while we were on kind of a statutory gold standard for five years between 1873 and 1878, but we went off of that.

01:27:58.000 But our standard for the monetary system is silver.

01:28:02.000 It always was and it still is constitutionally.

01:28:06.000 So up until 1968, people could still turn in their dollars theoretically and get silver coin.

01:28:13.000 That stopped in 68.

01:28:15.000 And then in, want me to finish when we come back?

01:28:17.000 Yeah, we'll talk about it.

01:28:18.000 And then we can also go back and talk about Kennedy in 1963.

01:28:20.000 He tries to issue 40-something billion in greenbacks.

01:28:23.000 He gets $4 billion out before they blow his head off.

01:28:26.000 And you can still find those $5 bills that don't say Federal Reserve.

01:28:29.000 They have a red stamp.

01:28:30.000 And it says Lincoln Greenback, which I guess would be redeemable in silver, but they weren't about to allow that to happen.

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01:32:05.000 The Trilateral Commission, founded in 1973 by Brzezinski, David Rockefeller, and others, is a global consortium of top economics experts who try to work in concert to bring into fruition is a global consortium of top economics experts who try to work in And they said that they're going to have an Asian Union, an American Union, a European Union.

01:32:30.000 They're going to play those currencies off against each other and then convince the people that they need a global currency.

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01:32:42.000 They came out and said, well, we'll also have our currencies in a few years, but they'll all be at a global benchmark to stop this wild fluctuation, and then that will give them global control to then, in a unified way, manipulate the currencies and debase them even further, robbing us of the value of our daily work and the energies that we expend.

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01:33:28.000 So, similar to the riots we see in China as the farmers refuse to have their land stolen, these peasants, it's happening here in America and we're just rolling over for it because we just can't get that it can actually happen here.

01:33:41.000 Going back to Bill Vieth, who's done a lot of research on this subject, a local Austin activist, and of course has two doctorates in psychology.

01:33:49.000 Bill, or Doctor, please continue getting into this, because you had gotten up with the gold being confiscated in 1933 and the whole War Powers Act, then accelerating up into the late 60s and the dual system they had us on, and now where we are today.

01:34:07.000 Let's talk about Bretton Woods.

01:34:08.000 Okay, yeah, Bretton Woods was a major event in our monetary history.

01:34:14.000 toward the conclusion of the World War II, the major countries of the world, the major countries of the world got together at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, at a hotel, and they laid out a plan to establish a new monetary system where the world was definitely going to go off the British and they laid out a plan to establish a new monetary system where the world was definitely going to go off the British pound sterling as the world's reserve currency and begin a new

01:34:41.000 So what they did, what that meant was establishing it as a world's reserve currency, what they did was they decided that the central banks in all of these countries were going to hold dollars as their reserve assets to peg their own currency against.

01:34:58.000 So they no longer had to hold gold or silver in reserve.

01:35:02.000 They could hold dollars because the United States promised that those dollars would be redeemable internationally on demand for gold.

01:35:11.000 And so the countries of the world Believe them, just like the people of the United States did, that those dollars would always be redeemable.

01:35:17.000 Well, it's simple.

01:35:18.000 You have the Bangalore American establishment, even Forbes admits the biggest owner of American companies are the British oligarchy, and the Sachs-Coburg does the Rothschilds others, and so they openly said, we got the big military, you're going to do this, and countries that didn't got invaded.

01:35:34.000 Absolutely, and are still getting invaded to this day.

01:35:36.000 there's a few countries that are not under the umbrella of the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, World Bank.

01:35:42.000 Serbia wasn't.

01:35:43.000 They got invaded.

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01:35:48.000 Yeah.

01:35:48.000 And North Korea.

01:35:49.000 And I believe Libya at one time.

01:35:51.000 So there were about eight countries that were not under the umbrella.

01:35:55.000 And coincidentally, those are the countries that the United States has always labeled the axis of evil or the rogue countries that did not join the family of nations because those central banks were not under the powers of the rest of the central banking system of the world.

01:36:10.000 So anyway, in 1944, they set up Bretton Woods.

01:36:15.000 The dollar became the world's reserve currency.

01:36:19.000 They set up an oil exchange in London and the United States.

01:36:24.000 And basically, the rule was that all oil purchases in the world would be settled in dollars at those two exchanges.

01:36:34.000 And so they pegged the basic energy measurement or value to their fiat system as well.

01:36:41.000 Right, so if let's say Japan wanted to buy oil, they couldn't use yen to buy the oil, they had to use yen to buy dollars and use dollars to buy the oil.

01:36:51.000 If Namibia or Cuba or any country wanted to buy oil, they had to get United States dollars because they had to buy it at either the London or the New York oil exchange and they would only sell it in dollars.

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01:37:20.000 So literally, the dollar became the world's reserve currency and it was in demand all over the world so the United States could import inflation worldwide.

01:37:30.000 And then the euro came online four and a half years ago, and since then we've seen a massive slide in the value of the dollar from the euro being valued at its opening at 87 cents to the dollar, now being valued, depending on what day you look at it, at $1.30 above the dollar, $1.35 above the dollar, or my mother was just over in Italy visiting friends, and she said, yeah, 10, or, she was describing how basically six euros is $10.

01:38:00.000 Okay, well, you know, the euro is a fiat currency also.

01:38:04.000 It's no better than the dollar, it's just newer in its lifespan.

01:38:08.000 If you look at... They haven't inflated it yet.

01:38:10.000 Right.

01:38:11.000 Not as much.

01:38:12.000 They actually have inflated it, just less than what we've inflated the dollar.

01:38:15.000 So in relative terms, they haven't inflated it.

01:38:18.000 So basically the same globalists are starting a new Ponzi scheme.

01:38:20.000 Exactly.

01:38:21.000 Exactly.

01:38:22.000 Because they know that every fiat currency has a lifespan.

01:38:25.000 It has a beginning, and a middle, and an end.

01:38:28.000 And as you look at the decline curve, as it reaches its end, the decline curve starts to go parabolic, and that's when they know they have to implement another system.

01:38:36.000 It speeds up.

01:38:36.000 It speeds up, that's what the other... Where are we right now on that graph?

01:38:39.000 You can show the cameras that are in here.

01:38:41.000 Well, if you're going down, you start, you know, the dollar starts to decline very gradually, and then the slope gets steeper and steeper and steeper, and all of a sudden it starts to just drop off a table, and we're right where it's starting to drop off that table.

01:38:52.000 I was about to say, every indicator is, and every indices is, that it's starting to plunge.

01:38:56.000 That's called the parabolic decline, where you start to get the curve, instead of the straight line decline, it curves down.

01:39:03.000 I mean, this is amazing, and these same people, as they do this to us, I talk to successful people, and I talk to millionaires who don't even understand this.

01:39:13.000 I wouldn't top that in economics, and they just roll their eyes at you.

01:39:17.000 But some poor immigrant from China or Mexico, they know all about having a weak currency. 1.00

01:39:22.000 Well, because they've been stuck enough times with their currencies losing their value.

01:39:26.000 See, it's never happened.

01:39:27.000 Generation after generation after generation, it hasn't happened in the United States.

01:39:31.000 We've been able to impose The currency system for a longer period of time because it is the world's reserve currency.

01:39:37.000 So why is the Bretton Woods Agreement post-World War II breaking up?

01:39:42.000 I mean I talked about it earlier and the Trilateral Commission said that they had to basically hide the parabolic plunge that you were just talking about and so to do that they have to give other false alternatives.

01:39:54.000 It's kind of like with Bush.

01:39:56.000 He's seen as the evil neocon, so the global media acts like, oh, but the loving liberal UN will shave you.

01:40:02.000 They give us false choices.

01:40:04.000 Is that what you see happening?

01:40:05.000 Yes, I do.

01:40:05.000 And, you know, actually, I see it as, in 1971, I think we actually entered into Bretton Woods II.

01:40:13.000 What happened in 1971 was the United States defaulted worldwide on redemption of dollars for gold.

01:40:20.000 So, starting in 1971 is really the year that we started being a full-blown fiat currency.

01:40:26.000 Before that, it was still redeemable in gold internationally.

01:40:29.000 People talk about what a conservative Nixon was.

01:40:31.000 Price-fixing, dozens of new federal agencies, taking us off the silver and gold standard.

01:40:39.000 Well, he wasn't a conservative.

01:40:40.000 He was a straight globalist.

01:40:41.000 He was a puppet of the globalists, as all our presidents have been since Lincoln.

01:40:45.000 But in 1971, when we went off the gold standard internationally, the United States had made agreements with OPEC to only sell oil in dollars worldwide and only at certain prices.

01:41:01.000 And so we kind of went off the gold standard, but we went on an oil standard.

01:41:06.000 And oil has been the de facto backer of the dollar since 1971, and that's breaking down.

01:41:11.000 And so militarily, the Anglo-American establishment has to dominate those oil reserves and those oil pools.

01:41:17.000 People always think, well, Saddam, you know, Our government didn't want the oil, because now the oil isn't even flowing at previous levels.

01:41:25.000 They don't understand that the globalists have said in their own documents, they got mad at Saddam in 1990 for quote, over-pumping.

01:41:31.000 OPEC got mad, it was driving down prices.

01:41:33.000 He said, I'm just paying off my debts.

01:41:35.000 I have a right to do this.

01:41:36.000 I have a right to sell as much oil as I want.

01:41:37.000 Then they set him up.

01:41:39.000 I'm not defending Saddam, he was one of their cronies. 0.88

01:41:41.000 But I mean, right there it shows they actually want to keep oil prices and now that's why they want to go into Iran and secure some of the major oil reserves right along the Iraqi border and claim that that's a bumper zone, again, to keep the price high.

01:41:54.000 Well, and not only that, but they have to keep it where oil is only settled in dollars. 0.76

01:42:00.000 Exactly.

01:42:01.000 Because if it starts to be settled in Euros or seashells or gold or silver, anything else but dollars, then the dollar will continue its implosion.

01:42:12.000 The Arabs are always talking about going to a gold system where you have to buy their oil and gold. 0.97

01:42:18.000 The problem is there's not that much gold out there.

01:42:21.000 Now the Chinese are coming into the gold market. 1.00

01:42:23.000 The Chai Kom government is allowing people to buy gold, and I think that's part of one of the things that's stimulating the surge in gold prices.

01:42:30.000 Well, I'm sure it is, but I think it's kind of a fallacy to say there isn't enough gold out there.

01:42:35.000 There is enough.

01:42:36.000 All you have to do is revalue the gold price.

01:42:41.000 Make a smaller unit worth more, which is actually how supply and demand works.

01:42:45.000 Exactly.

01:42:46.000 What it would do is it would bring down the false prices that we have of everything based on this inflated currency, and everything would get back into line with the real value against gold or silver.

01:42:59.000 And so there is enough gold.

01:43:00.000 And then these Keynesian economists from the British School of Economics there in London, they try to say, well, the fiat system is good because it encourages people because their money is being devalued at a moderate pace.

01:43:13.000 Now it's at lightning speed.

01:43:15.000 It encourages people to spend and keep the quote economy growing.

01:43:18.000 But we look at previous economies, our own economy, the strongest, fastest growing real value economies are the economies that aren't fiat.

01:43:28.000 Well, that's a historical and statistical fact, that if you look through civilizations, that during the periods they used gold and silver coin, they prospered.

01:43:38.000 And it was when they started to debase the coinage or implement other types of fiat currency systems is when they declined.

01:43:44.000 The Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the French, I mean, it just goes on and on.

01:43:51.000 Absolutely, and those are historical facts, those are not opinions.

01:43:55.000 So from your studying, Dr. Belvede, when you look at it, it's pretty clear then that there isn't some global war between elites going on over who will have the preeminent currency because we know that these institutions are owned by the same individuals.

01:44:09.000 This is just a grand manipulation.

01:44:11.000 Right.

01:44:13.000 They centralize by increments.

01:44:15.000 And so, you know, they're probably going to try to collapse the entire Western world, the South America, Central America, United States and Canada into one currency. 0.76

01:44:24.000 They're openly calling for that, by the way.

01:44:27.000 Right.

01:44:27.000 And they're going to do they've kind of done that with the euro and they're going to try to expand that.

01:44:30.000 And then they'll try to have an Asian currency.

01:44:32.000 And now if they can get us into a three currency system and make it look like they're competing, they can play one off the other, devalue all of them or two of them against one.

01:44:40.000 And then say just what they said with the 1913 Federal Reserve Act.

01:44:43.000 Oh, we've been having global spikes in currency value.

01:44:47.000 That's because the currencies are fighting with each other, not because they're based on a fraud measurement or value.

01:44:52.000 And then, oh, we have one currency.

01:44:54.000 If we have one system, it'll be okay.

01:44:56.000 Right.

01:44:57.000 And this fighting between currencies is not really fighting, it's intentional manipulation so that nobody ever knows the value of their currency so they can continue to steal the wealth.

01:45:06.000 Now they have tried to suppress gold, which a lot of experts say is valued well over a thousand dollars with inflation or even higher.

01:45:11.000 Do you think they've genuinely lost control?

01:45:15.000 Because we know they've been trying to buy gold from each other at reduced prices and then posting daily that reduced price globally to drive it down, but it seems like there's a gold rush on now and they can't put the genie back in the bottle.

01:45:26.000 I think it's the beginning of the loss of control.

01:45:28.000 I don't think they've lost the control yet because as long as they can, these different central banks, can print currency and impose them on an unsuspecting public and get the public to use those and buy dollar-denominated assets and other paper promises, as long as they can do that, they can continue to manipulate.

01:45:45.000 But when that game is up, when everybody says, you know, this paper, these paper promises are worthless, we're not doing this anymore, then the game's over.

01:45:53.000 So you think they're in real danger of their system gyrating out of control?

01:45:57.000 I think it's starting to go that way.

01:45:59.000 Certainly more and more people are getting informed.

01:46:01.000 The internet's been a big help.

01:46:02.000 Shows like yours letting the public know is a big help.

01:46:05.000 But they haven't completely lost control yet because All of the central banks in the world, they don't want the dollar to just collapse because they've got dollar-denominated assets.

01:46:15.000 They want to get out of theirs before everybody else catches on.

01:46:19.000 So they're out of theirs.

01:46:21.000 They've taken their worthless paper and bought tangible assets and resources while the public has no idea what's going on.

01:46:27.000 They're still buying T-bills and Treasury bonds.

01:46:29.000 That's why there's wild buying by the Spanish family of our roads and water districts, and Germans buying everything up, and Japanese, and UAE. 0.99

01:46:40.000 Well, they're privatizing what used to be public resources.

01:46:43.000 They're privatizing them now, and these rich families are getting control of them.

01:46:47.000 Now, let me get your view on investments because, I mean, obviously real estate is overvalued in most areas of the country, but at least there's something real, tangible, real land.

01:46:56.000 It may go down for a while, but it will go back up later.

01:47:00.000 So I see them demonize real estate.

01:47:02.000 Meanwhile, they're grabbing it with both hands.

01:47:03.000 I see them demonize gold.

01:47:05.000 Oh, don't buy it. 1.00

01:47:05.000 It's stupid. 1.00

01:47:07.000 Meanwhile, they're buying it up with both hands. 1.00

01:47:09.000 I mean, do you think real estate is a good investment?

01:47:12.000 Or buy real estate once it plunges?

01:47:16.000 Well, see, I think right now the real estate prices are at an inflated bubble, so I don't know if it's a good purchase.

01:47:22.000 I think if you've already got it... See, the people that are in trouble with real estate are the ones that are leveraged too highly, and now if the prices of real estate plunge 10 or 20 or 30 percent, and one of the family members loses their job and they can't make the mortgage payment, now they're going to get that real estate taken.

01:47:41.000 By the way, that's already starting to happen.

01:47:43.000 It is starting to happen across the country.

01:47:44.000 So that's the problem.

01:47:46.000 Let's say somebody is not in debt on their real estate and they own their house free and clear.

01:47:49.000 You've got to live somewhere.

01:47:51.000 Keep your house.

01:47:51.000 So that's not a problem.

01:47:53.000 The problem is going to be for the people that bought at inflated prices, borrowed at 100% or 95% of the debt, and now they can't make their mortgage payment two months in a row, and the bank comes in, they lent them credit out of thin air, but they're going to get a house now, a tangible asset.

01:48:09.000 What about people who are just sitting on a bunch of cash?

01:48:12.000 Well, I started, and I put my money where my mouth is, three and a half years ago, I started buying gold and silver coins and silver bullion.

01:48:22.000 I bought a lot of silver when it was $4.88 an ounce.

01:48:25.000 And now it's $13 plus.

01:48:27.000 Well, yesterday it reached $14.66, and I tripled my investment in three and a half years.

01:48:33.000 No, I bought silver at like $5, at $6, at $7, at $8, at $10.

01:48:38.000 What I recommend people do is, you know, as they get extra cash, just go down and buy some gold and silver coins.

01:48:45.000 And I don't really recommend, some people recommend the gold numismatic coins.

01:48:49.000 I don't like paying for rarity value.

01:48:51.000 No, I like, I mean, you've got to be diversified, but I buy mainly bullion.

01:48:55.000 Bullion, and it's a good idea to do it in coinage because that can become a good medium of exchanges.

01:49:01.000 If you have a hundred ounce or a thousand ounce bullion bar, you can sell it, but you can't really use it to buy things.

01:49:07.000 Oh no, it's great to have them in small, in fact, smaller than ounce coins.

01:49:09.000 Right, right, small units, so you can use it.

01:49:11.000 Tenth of an ounce, quarter ounce.

01:49:13.000 Right, because if the economy collapses, the day could come when people say, we don't want your paper.

01:49:19.000 And you're going to have to have something to exchange with them if you want to get food to eat.

01:49:23.000 That could possibly happen.

01:49:25.000 Guns are also a good investment. 0.91

01:49:26.000 Most of my guns have doubled in value.

01:49:28.000 Absolutely.

01:49:29.000 And ammunition, because they're going to make that harder to get.

01:49:31.000 They already are.

01:49:33.000 I want to take a few calls in the next segment and the segment after that.

01:49:36.000 I want to keep you with us with Mark Stevens.

01:49:38.000 If that's okay, you got time to do that, Doc?

01:49:39.000 Sure.

01:49:40.000 Great.

01:49:41.000 It's just amazing information.

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01:54:45.000 Mike in Ohio, you're on the air, then Sean, Peggy, and others.

01:54:49.000 Mike, welcome.

01:54:50.000 Hey, how are you doing, Alex?

01:54:51.000 Good, sir.

01:54:52.000 I'd just like to say thank you, first off, for doing what you're doing, because you are educating a lot of people.

01:54:58.000 And I can imagine how hard it is to try to get people to understand How bad of a shape we really are in this country, because we really are in bad shape.

01:55:08.000 Well, if you think it's bad now, we're just cruising in towards the tarmac and just wait until we crash.

01:55:14.000 And I'd also like to thank Charlie Sheen, because he really, really helped a lot.

01:55:19.000 I was hoping that more stars would come out.

01:55:22.000 Keep the, you know, keep the wave going.

01:55:25.000 Well, I mean... Even in the public eye.

01:55:26.000 Ed Asner did, and there's a bunch of others who are just afraid, too.

01:55:28.000 They're gonna see what happens to Charlie.

01:55:30.000 Um, and I wanted to bring up one point that I haven't heard you mention today, and that was, uh, last night on MSNBC on the, uh, Rita Cosby Show, they interviewed Josh Nichols, the son of, uh, Terry Nichols.

01:55:42.000 Yes.

01:55:43.000 Saying that there's more people involved in Oklahoma City?

01:55:46.000 Yeah.

01:55:47.000 And I was just wondering what your opinion on that was.

01:55:49.000 Well, we know their names.

01:55:51.000 They were Iraqi Republican Guard hired by the U.S.

01:55:53.000 government at least to play the part of decoys.

01:55:56.000 They were arrested and ordered released by Bill Clinton.

01:55:58.000 The federal government bombed OKC.

01:56:00.000 There's no debating it.

01:56:01.000 I spent 45 minutes on that in my film Road to Tyranny.

01:56:03.000 Bill, you want to comment on OKC?

01:56:07.000 I don't think I have any more to add.

01:56:08.000 You've done so much more research on that than I have.

01:56:11.000 I yield to you on that subject.

01:56:13.000 You want to comment on that?

01:56:13.000 What about 9-11?

01:56:14.000 Well, I think anybody that believes the official version has not spent one minute doing any independent research.

01:56:23.000 Yes, so many people since Shane went public thought he was crazy and went and looked it up, and he's getting literally hundreds of letters and emails, but people don't even know his address, he's still getting it.

01:56:32.000 And his parents are getting letters, everybody he knows are getting letters, and it's almost all positive.

01:56:36.000 And it's, I didn't believe you, I checked it out, it's true, oh my God.

01:56:38.000 Great, I'm glad to hear that.

01:56:40.000 And some of these are really prominent people, I can't say any names, but it's waking up others.

01:56:44.000 Good.

01:56:45.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

01:56:46.000 Let's talk to Sean in New Hampshire.

01:56:48.000 Sean, go ahead.

01:56:49.000 Hi Alex, great to be on your show again.

01:56:52.000 I wanted to let you and your listeners know that in New Hampshire we aren't laying down to this police state and on Saturday 11 to 1 p.m.

01:57:05.000 the Granite Staters are getting together to support our law that's coming up to not obey the Real ID Act and you can get information on that at www.granitestateid.com and to your author The Federal Reserve started to stop reporting on the M3 money supply a few months ago.

01:57:27.000 Stay there, caller.

01:57:28.000 I'll let you finish up.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 We're now into the third hour.

01:58:08.000 Hey, it just goes by quick with all the great folks we're interviewing today.

01:58:13.000 And Bill Vieth, Dr. Bill Vieth, is my guest.

01:58:15.000 Coming up in about five minutes, he'll continue to ride shotgun with us, but we'll have Mark Stevens of the No State Project joining us.

01:58:21.000 And we're also now carrying his book, Adventures in Legal Land.

01:58:24.000 It had been a few years since I had him on, and a caller called in and said, It's a conspiracy!

01:58:28.000 You won't have him on!

01:58:29.000 You never have!

01:58:30.000 I said, No, I like Mark.

01:58:31.000 We'll have him back on.

01:58:32.000 Thanks for inviting me, even though it was viciously.

01:58:35.000 So that's coming up.

01:58:37.000 But the caller just raised the point of Inflating the money supply.

01:58:42.000 The Federal Reserve since 1913 has always told us how much money they're printing in digits on a ballot sheet, and also in fiat paper currency.

01:58:51.000 Now they're saying, hey, we're not going to have any reporting to you, and that's one reason that the gold's exploding.

01:58:57.000 Tell us about it.

01:58:59.000 Well, on March 20th they stopped, as a caller said, publishing the M3 number.

01:59:06.000 And that's the number that lets us know how many fiat dollars in paper and electronic digits are in circulation in the world.

01:59:13.000 And, you know, there has been some information circulating on the internet saying that Bernanke is Printing two trillion more dollars.

01:59:21.000 That's the new Fed Chief.

01:59:22.000 So if that's the case, it's just, you know, even though they're not printing the number, the world, the effect is the world is acting like they are printing two trillion dollars.

01:59:22.000 Right.

01:59:31.000 And that's why the commodity prices have exploded since March 20th.

01:59:34.000 And nothing in intelligence is really secret.

01:59:36.000 They can make the decision in a smoky back room or in some underground base or in some cabin when they're having a roundtable meeting, but we see the implementation of it.

01:59:45.000 We see the commodities across the board start exploding.

01:59:48.000 We know what that real number is because the insiders know that.

01:59:51.000 I've been saying conservatively gold will go to a thousand, but you've done the math, doctor.

01:59:56.000 You were saying twenty-one plus hundred dollars per ounce?

01:59:58.000 Right, well, back in 1980, gold hit about $850 an ounce before they started really manipulating the gold price downward.

02:00:06.000 And $850 in 1980 dollars is equivalent to $2150 today.

02:00:11.000 So gold would have to reach a price today of $2150 just to be equivalent to what it reached 26 years ago.

02:00:19.000 And again, these numbers have been looked at.

02:00:23.000 Even mainstream financial publications are saying gold could hit $2,500.

02:00:27.000 I'm trying to be conservative.

02:00:29.000 I told people 5, 6, 7, 10 years ago when gold was $250 an ounce, just 4 years ago, and I said, buy it because it's not fiat.

02:00:37.000 It may go up, it may go down.

02:00:38.000 I think it will go up, but at least you've got something real.

02:00:41.000 Look at the stock market.

02:00:42.000 It's been down, now it's been back up.

02:00:45.000 People are making 4 or 5% on their money.

02:00:47.000 I mean, if they make good investments, and with the Dow Jones 30 industrial average, they only keep the winners in there.

02:00:53.000 They take the losers out.

02:00:54.000 They take the losers out of the S&P.

02:00:56.000 They take the losers and winners.

02:00:58.000 I mean, it's total cookbooks.

02:01:00.000 Well, not only that, Alex, but let's say the stock market stays at $11,000 for the last four years.

02:01:06.000 It's been right around there.

02:01:07.000 If the purchasing power of the dollar has gone down over 40% and the number $11,000 stays the same, well, the stock market value has dropped 40%.

02:01:17.000 It hasn't held its own.

02:01:18.000 It's really at the equivalent of about $6,500.

02:01:20.000 Exactly.

02:01:21.000 Exactly.

02:01:21.000 And that's what people don't understand.

02:01:25.000 Is it frustrating?

02:01:26.000 I don't feel like I'm some normal guy.

02:01:28.000 This isn't hard to understand.

02:01:30.000 I know so many prominent, even wealthy people who think they're a part of the elite.

02:01:35.000 They don't even understand this.

02:01:37.000 Not at all.

02:01:37.000 They don't understand it at all and it is very frustrating.

02:01:40.000 You know, they don't want to put the time in it.

02:01:42.000 You know, it's kind of like, they call it cognitive dissonance.

02:01:46.000 In psychology, there's a paradigm that we call the assimilation-accommodation model of information processing.

02:01:53.000 Is that rationalization?

02:01:54.000 Well, no, it's not exactly.

02:01:56.000 What the accommodation model is, is it says that with a lot of people, they have a mental paradigm in their mind of how something works.

02:02:03.000 And they can easily assimilate information that fits the paradigm.

02:02:07.000 But if they get novel information that doesn't fit the paradigm, they can't accommodate the paradigm to accept the new information.

02:02:15.000 So they just reject the information.

02:02:16.000 Oh, is that where the sailing ships would pull up in the Americas and the natives couldn't even recognize the ships? 0.97

02:02:22.000 Right, same principle.

02:02:22.000 Because they'd never seen it before.

02:02:24.000 Same principle.

02:02:25.000 Same principle.

02:02:25.000 If they can't, the model won't accommodate the information.

02:02:28.000 So that's why you tell somebody facts and they just will work any way around it.

02:02:32.000 Absolutely.

02:02:33.000 And it's a personality problem.

02:02:35.000 Very low IQ people can do that or people with high IQ can do it if they've got a personality problem of inflexible thinking.

02:02:41.000 It's called double think.

02:02:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:06:11.000 Mark Stevens is going to be joining us in just one moment after I finish up something here with Bill Vieth who's in the studio and will be riding shotgun with us for the rest of the hour.

02:06:18.000 We're honored to have him.

02:06:21.000 Mark Stevens' book, I read it a couple years ago and he's got an updated version.

02:06:24.000 It's Adventures in Legal Land.

02:06:26.000 And it just gets into the criminality of the courts, the general craziness, and he's here to talk about his book with us today.

02:06:32.000 And near the end of the hour I want to get some into his view of there just no state is legitimate and we can debate that and go over that because I believe that you're always going to have some type of state.

02:06:41.000 Because you're always going to have rogue criminal groups that try to set up a state.

02:06:45.000 So we need to be able to set up some type of limited, even if it's a free market, voluntary state to control and restrict those folks.

02:06:51.000 And I know Mark has some views on that that I think are revolutionary and very informative.

02:06:57.000 But Bill, during the break we were talking about your family.

02:07:00.000 You told them three years ago, and you just woke up, you've been a conservative for many years, we've helped fight gun laws and stuff here in Texas together, because we're liberal, we're pro-guns, we're liberal under the Bush paradigm.

02:07:11.000 But some of your family, I guess, wasn't fully believing you, but three plus years ago you convinced them to get gold and silver, and boy, I bet you've really got some converts now because their investments have more than doubled with silver.

02:07:22.000 Is it tripling or quadrupling?

02:07:24.000 Tripling since we purchased.

02:07:26.000 I did it three and a half years ago.

02:07:29.000 I took every piece of paper I had, whether it was a stock, a bond, or a Federal Reserve note, or a CD, and I cashed them all in and I started purchasing gold and silver coin.

02:07:40.000 And I took physical possession and they are hidden.

02:07:43.000 They are buried under the ground somewhere.

02:07:45.000 Same here.

02:07:46.000 And I don't care what happens with the paper market.

02:07:49.000 That's right, there's not one shekel in my house. 1.00

02:07:52.000 Right, no.

02:07:53.000 It's hidden and it's safe.

02:07:54.000 By the way, safety deposit boxes aren't safe.

02:07:56.000 No, not at all.

02:07:56.000 What did Long, Young & Silver know that the American people don't know?

02:07:59.000 I mean, they changed laws under the Patriot Act to immediately take what's in your box.

02:08:03.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:08:04.000 Absolutely, they did that in 1933.

02:08:06.000 A member of the government would accompany people to their safe deposit box and they'd take out the gold and guns, basically.

02:08:14.000 And so no, you've got to take physical possession.

02:08:17.000 I mean, you can't even buy a gold or a silver stock.

02:08:20.000 You've got to buy it physical and take physical possession because the way they have suppressed the prices of gold and silver and manipulated prices downward over the years is by selling paper contracts for gold and silver.

02:08:34.000 Well, that's how the Rothschilds took control in Europe starting 300 years ago. 0.62

02:08:37.000 They were just local goldsmiths.

02:08:38.000 That was the pawn dealer.

02:08:39.000 never ask for physical possession.

02:08:41.000 It's like the fractional reserve banking system.

02:08:44.000 Well, that's how the Rothschilds took control in Europe starting 300 years ago. 0.62

02:08:49.000 They were just local goldsmiths.

02:08:51.000 That was the pawn dealer.

02:08:52.000 And this is historical fact.

02:08:54.000 And the local nobles would drop by and put in a ring or a pile of gold and they would give them "receipts".

02:09:02.000 Well, they learned very quickly that they could loan out five, ten, fifteen, twenty times.

02:09:05.000 Their rule is normally one to ten.

02:09:08.000 They usually get caught if they go higher.

02:09:10.000 Now they've gone higher, and that's all this system is.

02:09:12.000 Imagine, they're the goldsmith.

02:09:14.000 They issue the paper, and now they've just gotten rid of the gold entirely, and then tell us, oh, don't have gold, while they're privately buying gold for themselves.

02:09:22.000 Comments on that?

02:09:24.000 Yeah, this has been going on for years and years, and that was the beginning of the fractional reserve banking system.

02:09:30.000 I mean, our Federal Reserve didn't invent this system.

02:09:34.000 They just looked back in history and saw what had been done in the past and repeated it.

02:09:39.000 Absolutely.

02:09:40.000 Stay with us, Dr. Bill Vieth.

02:09:42.000 Let's go to Mark Stevens, The No State Project, and we are carrying his book, Adventures in Legal Land, up on Infowars.com right now.

02:09:49.000 It's a doozy.

02:09:50.000 Mark, thank you for spending time with us today.

02:09:52.000 Oh, thanks for having me on, Alex.

02:09:54.000 You bet it.

02:09:54.000 It's been about two or three years since I had you on last.

02:09:57.000 I want to do it at least once a year, not every three years.

02:10:00.000 It's good to have you here with us.

02:10:02.000 You're hearing us have this discussion of banking systems, of fractional reserve banking, of why gold and oil and silver is exploding.

02:10:09.000 It's because they're not up, it's just the dollar is down.

02:10:12.000 That value is still the same.

02:10:13.000 You want to comment on that?

02:10:15.000 Well, the whole problem extends from government.

02:10:19.000 If you didn't have government, then the Federal Reserve and systems and the manipulation of the monetary system, if you will, couldn't take place.

02:10:27.000 It's only because of government that you have such abuses. 1.00

02:10:30.000 You take government out of the picture, and in a voluntary society, you can have a bunch of idiots put worthless pieces of paper on the market, and people would have the Able to either accept it or not, and obviously, you know, idiots like that will go out of business. 1.00

02:10:44.000 But it's because of government, and government is the base problem. 1.00

02:10:48.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:10:49.000 The problem is, is that they've confused all the terms.

02:10:51.000 Now, of the 100 biggest economies, 40 plus of them, what, 44 of them are corporations, and they're acting in a governmental way, and then fake conservatives confuse people and go, yeah, we agree with Mark Stevens.

02:11:01.000 We want privatization, hand everything over to them, but then they just operate as governments.

02:11:07.000 Well, corporations have the same... The reason why corporations do what they're doing... They're chartered by the government.

02:11:13.000 They're chartered by government.

02:11:14.000 They have no personal accountability.

02:11:17.000 Usually, there's almost no personal liability whatsoever.

02:11:20.000 Occasionally, you'll get something where they so-called pierce the corporate bail, but they typically don't. 0.85

02:11:25.000 They work hand-in-hand with government to, of course, plunder and rape people. 0.71

02:11:30.000 I want to start... I mean, I've kind of brought us to the end here at the start. 0.90

02:11:33.000 Start with how you woke up, who you are.

02:11:35.000 Tell us about your book, and then I want to first get into just the insane criminality of the courts.

02:11:40.000 I mean, here's one example after you tell us about yourself, for those who don't know who you are, who've been hiding under a rock.

02:11:45.000 Two weeks ago, Rocky Mountain News State Judge says, I don't care if this 16-year-old didn't break a law, photographing himself with a gun, because his dad's a gun collector, and then someone saw the picture.

02:11:58.000 It doesn't matter if he's allowed to have the gun in his house.

02:12:00.000 It doesn't matter if he didn't threaten anybody.

02:12:02.000 He's been in jail for two months.

02:12:04.000 I'm convicting him and keeping him in jail for years.

02:12:06.000 And the judge just said, I don't need a law anymore to put you in jail. 0.94

02:12:09.000 Or, people aren't even People aren't even indicted or charged yet in the case of them arresting two quote drug dealers and they're taking them to the dentist to rip out their gold fillings out of their mouth, their gold crowns.

02:12:26.000 You're trying to steal people's teeth before even charges have been made.

02:12:29.000 Are those not two examples of government total criminality?

02:12:32.000 Bush saying he's above the law on torture, Bush saying he's above the law on the NSA, Bush saying he's above the law... He signed a bill a month ago that hadn't even passed, a two billion dollar spending bill.

02:12:42.000 I mean, we've entered Twilight Zone La La Land.

02:12:45.000 Go ahead.

02:12:45.000 Well, it's the above the law mentality that led me to realize there was no state and that there is no such thing as a legitimate government, ever.

02:12:53.000 Because I was researching into This absolute immunity that judges are supposed to have.

02:12:59.000 And what I found in cases like, I quote in the book, Bowers v. Vito, and there's hundreds of these, that the government has no duty to protect anybody.

02:13:07.000 Whether it's state, local, federal, it doesn't matter.

02:13:10.000 No duty to protect.

02:13:11.000 And I look and the only thing that makes somebody a citizen is a duty of allegiance in return for a duty of protection at their reciprocal obligations.

02:13:19.000 Well, if there's no duty to protect, it struck me that then there's no duty of allegiance, there are no citizens, and the whole thing started to collapse from there.

02:13:29.000 And I've gone into court, And I, based on that information, not that I've gone into court with a lot, I know a lot of people that go in and they, they don't understand that the state doesn't exist, it's a fiction.

02:13:38.000 I don't take a position.

02:13:39.000 I would go in and ask a simple question such as, is there evidence of a complaining party?

02:13:45.000 Which is a standard legal question.

02:13:47.000 And not one prosecutor, judge, lawyer, cop, none of them could ever answer.

02:13:51.000 None of them would actually say yes or no to me.

02:13:54.000 Well, before we get into all these legal theories and ideas, which I agree with you on most of your stances on your research, go back to how Mark Stevens woke up.

02:14:04.000 Well, not to go into too big a case, I was in a traffic case for failure to produce identification, which that tells you right there you've got a serious problem that you're not in a free society.

02:14:15.000 Hundreds of times federal and state courts have ruled you don't have to ID, but still they arrest people every day for it.

02:14:21.000 Well, you have Brown v. Texas.

02:14:23.000 Brown v. Texas makes it clear, unanimous Supreme Court decision, you don't have to show police identification unless it's probable cause that you are engaged in a crime.

02:14:31.000 And that's an Austin, Texas case.

02:14:34.000 Yeah, and it's 9-0!

02:14:36.000 Go ask any legal scholar, any lead constitutional lawyer, a son-in-law of the Supreme Court.

02:14:41.000 How many 9-0 decisions are there from the U.S.

02:14:43.000 Supreme Court?

02:14:44.000 There's only a handful.

02:14:46.000 So they ignore it.

02:14:47.000 And so what happened was I read Brown v. I mean, I impeached all five police officers against me that testified.

02:14:53.000 The judge said, you can impeach all your witnesses, they're a bunch of liars, He still convicted me, and I figured, well, the last thing I have is Brown vs. Texas, and I read it, and the guy sneers down at me.

02:15:04.000 That's your interpretation.

02:15:05.000 And I was floored.

02:15:07.000 I didn't know where else to go.

02:15:08.000 So what happened was, because of that, I started looking at any situation where this guy with the robot has discretion.

02:15:15.000 Now, discretion means, literally, he can do whatever he wants.

02:15:18.000 Okay?

02:15:20.000 And it's the worst word you want to hear if you're in a court case, I think.

02:15:23.000 In my opinion, anyway.

02:15:25.000 Yeah, the court's discretion.

02:15:27.000 And did you see the case two weeks ago?

02:15:28.000 I see one every day now, where they go, no one was found guilty, but you're going to jail.

02:15:33.000 How many people know the Davidians, in 94, were found not guilty by the jury, but Walter E. Smith said, I'm putting you all in jail for 47 years. 0.99

02:15:42.000 He said, I find you guilty for using firearms in the commission of murder, when they were found not guilty for murder.

02:15:49.000 Yeah, they were acquitted on all the charges of murder, that it was a self-defense, and yes, and it's happened here in Phoenix, and it's happened a lot of places, especially a tax case.

02:15:59.000 There's a famous case here, out of Phoenix, where a man sued Smitty's on his own, won a huge jury settlement, and the judge stood up and said, not in my court, and I actually saw the order from the judge, and it said, whoa, what a tangled web we weave, when unto a lawyer we fail to cleave.

02:16:19.000 And even though the judge was censored by the Arizona Supreme Court, they never reversed or gave him back his jury decision.

02:16:27.000 So, I want people to hear this loud and clear.

02:16:29.000 People are going to jail and the judge says, no laws have been violated, but I'm sending you to prison.

02:16:34.000 That is dictatorship.

02:16:36.000 Well, it gets even worse than that, and I don't know how much time we have in this segment.

02:16:39.000 What I started looking at was the whole basis of government and the whole basis for the government to bring a case against you, even if they, even if you Let's say you have drugs, and the law says you're not supposed to have drugs, or you're supposed to file a tax return, and the law says you're supposed to file a tax return.

02:16:56.000 Even if they can show that, they still don't have a case against you or have standing to complain against you in court.

02:17:02.000 And I tried to have on my show, on the No Stay Project, the lead attorney in the EEOC v. Lowry's The Prime Rib Case, where they want to sue, or they are suing, Lowry's, this company, who's been in business since 1938, because they won't hire male servers.

02:17:22.000 Stay there, Mark Stevens.

02:17:24.000 We'll come back and we'll get Bill Vieth to ask you some questions and then just go over just how criminal it is.

02:17:30.000 Because, look, I know government always tends to go bad and it's always pretty illegitimate unless it's very restricted.

02:17:35.000 Now it's just pale male wildness.

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02:22:00.000 Mark, my question of this orgy of looting.

02:22:03.000 I mean, every indicator is that the government and its minions are going wild.

02:22:07.000 People don't know that in the New London case, Kelo versus New London up in Connecticut, that they're not even giving people tax value, much less best value or best price.

02:22:19.000 They're telling them, we're going to give you condemned value, a $300,000 plus house you've been paying taxes on.

02:22:24.000 on the tax rolls.

02:22:25.000 You could sell for $400,000 plus.

02:22:26.000 They're saying, we'll give you $61,000.

02:22:28.000 I mean, that's the big secret.

02:22:30.000 It's just the end of America.

02:22:32.000 The Chinese people will riot in mass when the government tries to take their little property pieces. 1.00

02:22:37.000 But here in America, we just roll over.

02:22:39.000 I mean, it's getting bad, Mark.

02:22:40.000 Well, that's true because people, I explain this in my seminars at length, because you're talking, if you look at the Stanford Prison Experiment, I agree with you about the prison planet.

02:22:51.000 And what I discuss is how the whole world is one big Stanford Prison Experiment, where you've got billions of people pretending to be citizens and residents of non-existent states and countries, and you've got a few million people, a couple hundred million people, pretending to be senators and presidents and congressmen and whatnot.

02:23:08.000 And if you go through that experiment, it explains why people...

02:23:12.000 In the United States, so-called, can't get away from this theology called government... And we have a multiple doctorate psychologist here.

02:23:21.000 For those who don't know what the Stanford experiment was, tell them in a nutshell.

02:23:27.000 Well, I mean, obviously, in a nutshell... Yeah, Mark, you tell them.

02:23:31.000 Well, what happened was, in a nutshell, it was a psychological experiment conducted, it was supposed to be two weeks long, where they were doing a mock prison.

02:23:39.000 Half a group of young men were going to pretend to be prisoners, the other half were going to pretend to be prison guards.

02:23:43.000 They had to stop the experiment within six days because the psychiatrist doing the experiment said that the guards were becoming sadistic.

02:23:51.000 He also had what was called de-individuation within 36 hours.

02:23:56.000 Because what that means in a nutshell is that the people pretending to be prisoners, who knew they were pretending, this is extremely critical, they knew they were pretending and lost their personal identity.

02:24:06.000 They could only identify themselves as part of the collective group of prisoners.

02:24:10.000 And that's what you have where people cannot identify themselves as other than citizens or residents of the United States or Texas or whatnot.

02:24:17.000 There was another famous case where they had them practice giving them electric shocks but told them in a double-blind study you're actually going to kill somebody and they would follow the orders to kill.

02:24:27.000 That was the Milgram experiment and I have that link on my website and I used those two experiments together to explain the nature and basis of government and the psychological basis why people cannot accept The truth!

02:24:38.000 And when you were speaking with the doctor before the break, before I came on, about the cognitive dissonance, that it doesn't fit the paradigm.

02:24:46.000 People cannot identify that they have a very difficult time accepting that there is no state, there is no United States, there is no such thing as a president, and there are no citizens.

02:24:56.000 And that's because of the de-individuation.

02:24:58.000 They've been pretending that they're citizens for so long, they can't You have to grasp the truth that they are just Alex Jones, or they're just Mark Stevens, and the whole thing that they've been scamming their entire lives.

02:25:13.000 These two experiments give you the psychological basis for that.

02:25:16.000 Why is it possible for George Bush and all these other people to murder 3,000 people?

02:25:21.000 If you look at the Stanford Prison Experiment, within six days of controlling other men and women, Okay?

02:25:26.000 You become sadistic.

02:25:27.000 You don't see them as human beings anymore.

02:25:29.000 And that's why it's possible to do that.

02:25:32.000 That explains the whole psychological nature that it is very possible... And by the way, it is almost unknown in history for governments not to mass murder and slaughter and go totally nuts. 0.85

02:25:41.000 It's the very nature of sickos to get into control.

02:25:45.000 Well, that's because a normal person doesn't have an appetite to continually, you know, try to exert power. 0.99

02:25:49.000 Well, I'm glad you said normal, because you're absolutely right, because government is just a gang of kill-if-these-are-liars.

02:25:55.000 And someone, another host of GCN had asked me, didn't the founding fathers at least have good intentions?

02:26:01.000 And I said, well, I don't care what their intentions are, but I would say no, because the one question you need to ask about their intentions is this.

02:26:08.000 Were the services of protection, which is the only legitimate basis of government was to protect, which of course they don't, Were their services provided on a voluntary basis?

02:26:18.000 No.

02:26:18.000 Anybody who's willing to kill you in order to protect you is not normal.

02:26:22.000 And that's why government can never be legitimate, and that's why government cannot be restricted.

02:26:27.000 Well, here's an example.

02:26:28.000 In New York, guns are banned unless you pay the sheriff $30,000 on average.

02:26:32.000 You've got to pay them off.

02:26:33.000 That's public.

02:26:35.000 And then the courts have ruled the police have no duty to protect you, but we want your guns, and we're not going to protect you.

02:26:43.000 Exactly, and you have to look, and somebody needs to call someone like Schumer to the carpet and say, look, this is the law.

02:26:50.000 It's federal, state, and local.

02:26:52.000 There's no duty to protect anybody.

02:26:54.000 Now, if there's no duty to protect anybody, and we know statistically over two million crimes are prevented by private people every year, and not by the police, tell me why you want the guns.

02:27:07.000 It would be a very interesting response if you could get one, which you probably would not, because he would probably argue that they do have a duty to protect, which of course is an outright lie.

02:27:16.000 Because we have all the court cases in their own statements, and I'm not saying there aren't some good cops who change your tire and help you, and help you cross the street, and that the firemen don't do a great job. 0.99

02:27:25.000 It's just that cynically at the top, it's something but a bunch of parasites, and government is a mechanism, a proboscis, to suck our innards. 0.99

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02:31:49.000 And there's Mark battering his microphone.

02:31:53.000 Sorry, man.

02:31:54.000 Hey, that's alright.

02:31:55.000 Mark, I listen to you sometimes.

02:31:56.000 I hear you doing it and I go, man, he's mutilating his microphone again.

02:31:59.000 Batting it about.

02:32:01.000 No, seriously, my friend, I hope people will get the book that's up on InfoWars.com because it's excellent.

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02:32:23.000 But, Mark, Dr. Veith wanted you to be able to comment on the Stanford and the other research tests they did, but then during the break he was giving me more detail on it.

02:32:34.000 Of course, I've read the studies, but it's been years, but he was describing them perfectly.

02:32:38.000 So, Dr. Veith, take a minute or two out and for the listeners.

02:32:43.000 Okay, yeah.

02:32:44.000 what the Stanford study did and what one of the other studies did, and then how that relates to this general laboratory that is our daily lives.

02:32:53.000 Okay, yeah.

02:32:54.000 It's actually been a number of years since I've read the study back when I was in graduate school, but my recollection of them is that in one of them, an authority figure would tell somebody on command to increase the stimulus of torture to a confederate of the experiment that was in the other room. an authority figure would tell somebody on command to increase And that person actually believed he could push a button and incrementally increase the amount of stress.

02:33:18.000 Shock that the person in the other room was getting and the person in the other room each time could tell when the Increments were being increased and that person would scream louder and louder of course that person wasn't really getting shocked But the one that was ordered to give the shock didn't know it thought he was actually given a shot and was doing it on command just because the authority figure was telling him to And so that shows, you know, they can send our police out and our military and have them do stuff to us just based on the command when the authorities tell them to.

02:33:46.000 And they say, just following orders, as the Germans said.

02:33:48.000 Mark, do you want to comment on that?

02:33:50.000 Yeah, that was the Stanley Milgram experiment.

02:33:53.000 I know Stanley's better known for the Six Degrees of Separation.

02:33:57.000 The subject was told that they are not responsible.

02:34:02.000 And that's why I always tie that together with the Stanford Prison Experiment, the obedience to authority, so-called, and the lack of personal responsibility.

02:34:09.000 Now, let's expand on that, though.

02:34:11.000 I mean, let's expand on that. 0.98

02:34:12.000 There's a reason Alberto Gonzalez and John Yoo from the White House are saying, we're going to torture children, we're going to sexually torture them. 0.57

02:34:18.000 It's the reason they say it in public, is they're trying to warp the general public to think, well, authority says they can torture kids, so if they can do that, they can do anything else they want.

02:34:28.000 Well, right, and the reason why these people are doing that is because if you become sadistic within 6 days of controlling another man or woman, then what does that say to someone who's been doing it for 6 months, 6 years, or 16 years?

02:34:40.000 And yes, they are trying.

02:34:41.000 It's all mind control.

02:34:42.000 And I even say the Constitution is part of that mind control because it convinces you you're a citizen and resident of this non-existent country.

02:34:50.000 And they are able to then demonize people who are not from the United States.

02:34:57.000 Well, I've got something that dovetails with that.

02:34:59.000 If you clearly look at it...

02:35:01.000 Elite billionaires have the most rights because they're insiders.

02:35:04.000 They're a good old boy club.

02:35:05.000 Then the illegal aliens get more welfare, more tuition. 0.99

02:35:09.000 They don't have to follow the laws.

02:35:11.000 If you really study it, illegal aliens have more rights than citizens. 1.00

02:35:15.000 Being a citizen in America is really now a negative. 0.99

02:35:19.000 It means you're a fat chump to be pushed around. 1.00

02:35:22.000 I mean, I guess it means you're an easy mark. 1.00

02:35:24.000 Go ahead.

02:35:25.000 Well, the citizen, convincing someone he's a citizen, okay, and using that false theology I call it, because, like, separation of church and church, which, you know, the state is a considered church, that enables them, or conditions them, to accept certain other premises, which is, I have to pay taxes, I have to do this, and I have to do that.

02:35:45.000 And by creating this, by creating citizens, which don't exist, you can then create illegal aliens, which don't exist.

02:35:51.000 And I have an article about that.

02:35:52.000 And I'm not saying that there are people who are not trespassers.

02:35:55.000 I'm in Arizona, I understand the situation.

02:35:57.000 But by focusing the attention on a non-issue like illegal aliens, gets people and their attention diverted from the fact that there's a group of men and women called government who are stealing and robbing them blind.

02:36:10.000 They're torturing them, they're spying on them, they're controlling them, they're regulating them, they're killing them, they're lying to them.

02:36:15.000 And people are, instead of being focused on that, hey, you know, the Bush and gang and, you know, gender politics, these people are stealing from me!

02:36:24.000 They're not protecting Mark, are you there?

02:36:29.000 I think he was using a digital line to be connected to us.

02:36:32.000 I didn't recommend that, but people insisted so.

02:36:35.000 He's on a Skype line, isn't he?

02:36:35.000 Reconnect?

02:36:40.000 Yeah, get him back on.

02:36:41.000 Thank you.

02:36:43.000 Let me add this addendum to what we've been saying here.

02:36:47.000 The globalists are setting up a one-world government, where they set the rules, where they have the armies, where they have the courts.

02:36:53.000 And the way they've written the rules in the IMF, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, the World Health Organization, the Ex-Im Bank, the International Bank of International Settlements, they've set it up where they follow no rules, they're above the law, and then we, the people, have absolutely no rights and are chattel slaves for our best interests.

02:37:11.000 Dr. V, do you want to comment on that?

02:37:12.000 Well, that's exactly what they've done.

02:37:14.000 I mean, we do not want to be a citizen of the international community.

02:37:20.000 We do not want to be a citizen of the United States, because a citizen has what are called civil rights, and that takes away our God-given rights.

02:37:28.000 The 14th Amendment replaced it.

02:37:29.000 See, you can argue with Mark Stevens about, was it ever legitimate?

02:37:34.000 We've got to have some type of system, I believe.

02:37:34.000 That can be debated.

02:37:36.000 But you certainly can't debate that now we have a totally illegitimate, out-of-control, crime syndicate that is predatory and seizes its cattle.

02:37:44.000 Right.

02:37:44.000 And you know, the Constitution really did not put any restrictions on the people.

02:37:49.000 The Constitution spoke to the powers and the disabilities of the federal government.

02:37:56.000 It didn't make people do one thing.

02:37:59.000 Uh, it just talked to the government what they were allowed to do.

02:38:02.000 It's the same thing as, let's say I have a get-together with my neighbors where we live and we hire a company to come in and mow the lawn and clean the common area.

02:38:12.000 And we tell them, here's what you're allowed to do and here's what you're not allowed to do.

02:38:16.000 And then we start paying them to come in and mow the lawn and clean the common area.

02:38:19.000 And over time, they start telling us what to do and how we need to do our lawns.

02:38:23.000 And all of a sudden, this company that we hired and gave them specific powers, they're telling us how we need to operate and regulate our lawns.

02:38:31.000 That's the same thing that happened with the Constitution.

02:38:33.000 Yeah, I can hear Mark.

02:38:34.000 You're absolutely right.

02:38:37.000 I mean, everybody's experiences that's had employees.

02:38:39.000 Most employees are pretty good, but always you get one who starts trying to slowly, oh, for your own good, hey, you need to do this.

02:38:45.000 And if you let them do that, especially doctors, you know, with office managers they have, the office manager ends up being over them, telling them what to do.

02:38:51.000 And that's what government, the people are supposed to be above the government.

02:38:54.000 You know, the liberals always say, we don't have God-given rights, they're civil rights.

02:38:56.000 Wait, civil's from government?

02:38:58.000 Even if you don't believe in God, which I do, you want something above man, because then that can't be changed, because you're going to have a God, whether it's government or whether it's Jesus Christ.

02:39:07.000 Well, you know, we have Creator-given rights.

02:39:10.000 Even if you don't want to call it a God, I know that the government did not create me.

02:39:15.000 So I don't want to get my rights, or my lack of rights, from the government.

02:39:18.000 Well, here's another example, and we'll go back to Mark Stevens, who I'm honored to have with us.

02:39:21.000 A black man, the laws 200 years ago said he was not a human being, he had no rights, and he got out of line. 0.90

02:39:28.000 He could have his head beaten in. 0.95

02:39:30.000 Go ahead and put Mark on hold.

02:39:32.000 His line's got noise on it.

02:39:35.000 He could have his head beaten in if he tried to escape. 0.99

02:39:38.000 He could have one of his feet chopped off. 0.99

02:39:40.000 And the government said, hey, that's the law. 0.95

02:39:42.000 Well, wait a minute.

02:39:43.000 The organic, God-given right of a free human being that came out of his mother's womb from the congress between his mother and his father, that didn't come from the state. 0.94

02:39:53.000 And that black man, I don't care what the law was, had a right to grab that axe handle out of Master's hands and beat Master's brains out all over the ground and to escape. 0.99

02:40:02.000 He is not a slave. 0.98

02:40:05.000 Mark Stevens, are you there?

02:40:07.000 Let's bring Mark back up.

02:40:09.000 It's okay, Mark.

02:40:09.000 Go ahead and comment on what we were just saying.

02:40:11.000 Well, this is why government is the problem, the nature of government is the problem, because it's not voluntary.

02:40:16.000 If normal people bring the services to the market on a voluntary basis, And this way, if someone's paying for a service, and the employee or the contractor gets abusive, you can just stop paying him, and the abuse will probably stop.

02:40:32.000 When you have government where, by its very nature, is the slave master, there's not much you can do about it, especially when you have the fact that there's no personal accountability, there's no personal liability.

02:40:42.000 And then if the black slave, or the Roman-Germanic slave, whatever, tries to escape and kills the master, he's then called a terrorist.

02:40:52.000 Well, anybody who opposes the dictates of some lunatic doing business as a government or calling himself a state is always going to be viewed as an enemy. 0.88

02:41:01.000 The real enemy of the state, so-called, is the truth.

02:41:04.000 When you show that there is no state, there are no citizens.

02:41:07.000 And that's why I've been able to go into court and be so successful.

02:41:10.000 Other people who have bought my scripts have gone in and been so successful at exposing that there is never a case.

02:41:15.000 By the way, Mark, for those that don't understand what we're talking about here, can you specifically get into my analogy of the black slave?

02:41:26.000 I mean, according to this government, they would say he's a terrorist.

02:41:29.000 Then I would add, have you seen the new federally written Virginia anti-terrorism manual given to all the state employees that says land rights activists, property rights activists are terrorists?

02:41:41.000 Well, according to somebody who doesn't believe, like, if you look in my book, and you're probably familiar with Senate Resolution No.

02:41:48.000 62, that people who do business as a government, or as the state, believe that all property is theirs.

02:41:54.000 So when you've got somebody saying it's not, that is a threat to them, and they would consider them, and I could see them considering them a terrorist.

02:42:01.000 Anything that threatens their so-called, well, their little system is going to be seen as a threat.

02:42:05.000 And I want people to understand this.

02:42:07.000 I mean, governments at every state level and federal level are issuing manuals, are saying protesting is terror.

02:42:12.000 Land rights protesting.

02:42:13.000 It says peaceful is terror.

02:42:15.000 Everything is terror. 0.97

02:42:16.000 Founding fathers are terrorists.

02:42:17.000 Freedom is terror. 1.00

02:42:18.000 Homeschoolers are terrorists. 1.00

02:42:19.000 I mean, they actually say it. 0.99

02:42:21.000 Dr. V, do you want to comment on that?

02:42:23.000 Well, most of what I've learned about that, actually, I've heard from listening to you.

02:42:26.000 But, yeah, I know of cases where people would try to assert their property rights or talk about the Constitution or label terrorists.

02:42:35.000 So you're not even supposed to bring up the Constitution anymore.

02:42:37.000 Well, we have the public manuals posted with the phone numbers on them.

02:42:40.000 I mean, they don't even hide it anymore.

02:42:41.000 I mean, how?

02:42:41.000 I mean, Mark Stevens, that really shows how wild they've gotten, though.

02:42:45.000 I mean, they weren't doing that 50 years ago, openly saying that if you protest, you're a terrorist.

02:42:51.000 Well, no, they did that back in, you know, around World War I, where Woodrow Wilson really was the one that, uh, was the guy who was rounding up anybody who was a so-called anarchist, or protested, or said anything negative about the war.

02:43:05.000 Yeah, trading with the Enemy Act, which, by the way, multiple governors, including Rhode Island and other areas, have tried to implement that very law again.

02:43:13.000 Well, and you've mentioned on the show a number of times, if people just go to your website, you have the information.

02:43:17.000 You could even do a Google search.

02:43:19.000 My gosh, what they wanted to do in Oregon, they want to set up prison camps!

02:43:23.000 I mean, concentration camps, for heaven's sake.

02:43:27.000 It's a life in prison in a forced labor camp or downloading music.

02:43:31.000 Any firearms violation, instant life in prison in a forced labor... It says, forced labor forest camp.

02:43:37.000 Yeah, if that's not enough, I mean, I've spoken enough about what it is going to take for people to give up this theology called politics and, you know, the laws and orders.

02:43:47.000 The government's not there to protect you, it never was.

02:43:50.000 And a good example of how corrupt the system was, you talked about how corrupted the courts are.

02:43:54.000 One of the questions I've used, and I've never got a responsive answer to the second question, I ask, am I presumed innocent of the alleged crime?

02:44:02.000 And they'll say, yes.

02:44:04.000 Well, am I presumed innocent of uh... every element of the alleged crime and it won't go any further because jurisdiction's an element of the crime and he has to presume he's innocent so he's gotta let me go and that's just as unfair today as it was in 1776 The difference, though, which you point out all the time, is the degree of control that they were able to exercise today, as opposed to 1776.

02:44:25.000 Well, yeah, that's the difference.

02:44:27.000 In the past, most men didn't care if 20 people came for them.

02:44:31.000 If they came for their family, they were going to fight to the death, and so government backed off.

02:44:34.000 We were men.

02:44:36.000 I mean, really, it's like Tony Montana says in Scarface, there's one thing in this world that gives orders, okay?

02:44:42.000 And that's being a man and just being willing to get it on.

02:44:45.000 And it's simple, folks.

02:44:47.000 You're a lot safer when you're ready to get in a fight.

02:44:50.000 I mean, it's not even a courage thing.

02:44:52.000 It's just that's who you are, and you're willing to fight.

02:44:55.000 And I tell you, I was talking to Bill Vieth.

02:44:56.000 Probably some of the things he's doing legally right now, he's putting his money where his mouth is, fighting these people.

02:45:00.000 And I can only commend him.

02:45:01.000 You know, I choose my battles.

02:45:03.000 We all have to do that.

02:45:04.000 But I wanted to bring up something else to both of you gentlemen here before we go to break and come back and take one or two final calls in the final segment if we have time.

02:45:11.000 The government admittedly radiated tens of thousands of American children killing them.

02:45:15.000 Black men, syphilis, Tuskegee, sterilizing 400 and something thousand women, the ring-armed children I used, you know, these popular examples, public, you know, radiating 110,000 Jewish children, the Israeli government for the U.S. 0.60

02:45:26.000 government did. 0.86

02:45:27.000 They do these as tests to test their own minions.

02:45:30.000 You know, the biological spring, all of this, and people go, well, they wouldn't kill 2,850-something on 9-11.

02:45:38.000 We have all these admissions where they radiate little babies for fun! 0.95

02:45:38.000 Baloney! 0.95

02:45:43.000 You want to comment, Dr. Veef, about the psychology of that?

02:45:47.000 Yes, well, you know, they're experts at mind control.

02:45:51.000 They understand a lot of these experiments that these universities have done over the years have been funded by the globalists who want to figure out better ways to mind control the people because mind control has to precede behavioral control.

02:46:04.000 So they hire the best in the world to conduct these experiments.

02:46:08.000 You know, even TV puts you in a trance state.

02:46:11.000 When you go to the movies and they darken the theater and they take out all the external distractions and they focus on the big screen, you're in a trance state.

02:46:19.000 And when they get you in that kind of a trance state, you are susceptible to suggestions.

02:46:25.000 You've got a specific degree in that.

02:46:27.000 I've got a PhD in psychology and a doctoral degree in clinical hypnotherapy.

02:46:32.000 So, you know, even though I don't use clinical hypnotherapy in my practice right now, I've studied a lot about trans states.

02:46:37.000 I want to have you in for a full hour sometime on that.

02:46:39.000 Okay.

02:46:40.000 I'd be glad to do that.

02:46:41.000 Mark, comments?

02:46:41.000 I think he's right, you know, and I would also say that, and I've said this a number of times, you don't necessarily have to be in a trans state to have the images I was talking about your map of the world.

02:46:54.000 I know that's not original to me, and we all have our own individual maps of the world, but you could just have Fox News on in the house, and it's going to pass through your conscious mind, right past it, and become a part of your map of the world.

02:47:08.000 That's why it's called programming.

02:47:10.000 But I agree, yeah, it puts you in a more susceptible state, especially as far as... Well, there's a flicker rate.

02:47:17.000 I mean, there's a flicker rate, all of it.

02:47:20.000 I'm sorry?

02:47:21.000 The flicker rate of the television.

02:47:23.000 Well, yeah.

02:47:24.000 You don't even have to be watching it.

02:47:25.000 You can just be on in the background where the sound of it is going.

02:47:29.000 I'm just saying it's more effective with the flickering, though.

02:47:32.000 Well, they have multiple techniques, and I mean, we're under barrage from all of them all the time, and most of the time we're not even aware of it.

02:47:40.000 But if you're constantly conscious of that, and have your own map that you've laid out, I mean, to me, now when I see propaganda, it just irritates me.

02:47:47.000 It's noise now.

02:47:48.000 It's dissonance, yeah.

02:47:51.000 Oh yeah, and you can get going on at proclaiming to be, once you understand the truth of what's going to go on in citizens, nations, and countries, and you see someone on TV saying, I'm the president, you know he's lying through his teeth.

02:48:01.000 It's just like the whole war on terror.

02:48:03.000 The only thing I need to show that the war on terror is a complete fraud is to show there's no duty to protect anybody.

02:48:08.000 So when this nutcase gets on the TV and says my most solemn obligation is to protect the American people, no it's not.

02:48:14.000 And Jim Jones, Jim Jones said he made everybody drill, drink, and make Kool-Aid for their safety.

02:48:21.000 Stay there, final segment with Dr. Bill Veith and of course Mark Stevens and we'll see if we can jam a few quick calls in, quick questions.

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02:51:41.000 Transcription by CastingWords When you watch TV, you watch the news, white males are always shown as bumbling idiots. 0.98

02:51:55.000 But they'll do more than that, because they know that's the middle class, that's where some of the money, some of the old power is. 0.99

02:52:01.000 Really powerful white males are attacking their rivals that run things.

02:52:06.000 And Dr. Beekle is saying that I concur with that, and I totally do. 0.99

02:52:09.000 And then also they'll show up in the dramas and sitcoms that dumb male gets all the women. 1.00

02:52:14.000 But then in reality, the male tries to emulate that, doesn't get any women. 0.99

02:52:18.000 He thinks he's not acting dumb enough. 0.98

02:52:20.000 And I see all this conditioning. 0.70

02:52:21.000 So I've got to have you back about mind control itself, Doctor.

02:52:24.000 Okay, I'd be glad to do that.

02:52:26.000 Because it's everywhere.

02:52:26.000 Thank you.

02:52:27.000 We're social creatures and so they manipulate us through basically dog training.

02:52:32.000 That's why we have dogs in our homes. 1.00

02:52:33.000 We're very similar psychologically to them at base level.

02:52:36.000 Mark Stevens, let's jam a few final calls in here.

02:52:39.000 Peggy in Pennsylvania, thanks for holding.

02:52:40.000 You're on the air.

02:52:41.000 Go ahead Peggy.

02:52:42.000 Hi Alex.

02:52:43.000 I'm an attorney originally from Ohio.

02:52:46.000 I can testify that what you say about mind control being everywhere is absolutely true.

02:52:52.000 I've been harassed in Cincinnati pretty bad.

02:52:55.000 We've had to move, and we moved about four years ago, and we've moved three times trying to get away from the harassment.

02:53:01.000 It consists of, when I was in law school, I didn't realize this until later because like the doctor said about cognitive dissonance, I came from a sort of conservative and extremely naive point of view, and I didn't fit in with the people in the law school and the and I didn't fit in with the people in the law school and the general tenor of the Sure, so what happened?

02:53:24.000 Well, they basically barred me from getting a job in real estate.

02:53:28.000 Oh, yes, a good old boy that worked.

02:53:30.000 Not only that, but after I got a job for $20,000 a year as basically a paralegal, they started to ransom me in the recorder's office.

02:53:42.000 I was assaulted frequently.

02:53:45.000 And they didn't like how I was responding to it, because I was trying to do it the normal way and go to the prosecutor and so on.

02:53:51.000 They instituted a series of three legal prosecutions against me, in which I was found not guilty.

02:53:56.000 Mark Stevens, we're almost out of time.

02:53:57.000 Comments to what she's talking about?

02:54:00.000 I'm not familiar with something like that.

02:54:04.000 Well, it got to the point where we left town in 2002, and we've been trying to get away from this.

02:54:10.000 I've been trying to get somebody to help me.

02:54:14.000 They basically track me through the local police.

02:54:17.000 And I can't do anything or try to reach anybody that can help me.

02:54:20.000 Well, a lot of it is.

02:54:21.000 A lot of this predatory system, if you act afraid or you act concerned, they dominantly come in.

02:54:26.000 If you act like you're in command, and a lot of us just do this organically, you are in command.

02:54:31.000 I appreciate your call.

02:54:33.000 Mark, isn't a lot of this has gotten so criminal now that just stomping around like you're the ogre makes a lot of these people leave you alone?

02:54:41.000 It can help in some situations and some it's going, depending on the individual, might actually embolden them.

02:54:47.000 And, you know, I don't believe in being a martyr to, you know, it seems like I'm a traffic stop.

02:54:51.000 But, you know, depending on the individual, yeah, it could be very effective.

02:54:56.000 Well, I mean, by that, I've noticed as soon as someone is wrongly subservient, they psychologically see it as their role to dominate.

02:55:03.000 And then if you are confident, but really confident, that telegraphs, then it's their role to be subservient.

02:55:08.000 Dr. Veef, you're a psychologist.

02:55:09.000 Do you agree with that statement?

02:55:10.000 I sure do.

02:55:10.000 I agree with it totally.

02:55:12.000 I mean, that's my experience.

02:55:14.000 It's a good observation.

02:55:16.000 In my experience, what happens when I go into court and I use an unsigned plea of guilty to disarm them psychologically, or I'll go into a tax meeting and say, we're prepared to pay, we'd just like to see the facts.

02:55:27.000 That puts them in a pretty dominant role, and they feel that they're going to get what they want.

02:55:31.000 I ask a couple of questions, Absolutely cuts them off at the knee.

02:55:35.000 I'm not trying to force them to see things my way, but they now, once I ask the questions, the wheels start turning, and then they start to realize I don't have a case here, and they typically back down.

02:55:45.000 Mark Stevens, it's clear I'm going to have to get you back up for longer in the near future.

02:55:48.000 Author of Adventures in Legal Land, and I hope folks will go to InfoWars.com and get the book.

02:55:53.000 Thanks for joining us, Mark.

02:55:54.000 Well, thanks for having me on, Alex.

02:55:55.000 You bet.

02:55:56.000 And Dr. Bill Veith, this has been great.

02:55:56.000 We'll talk to you soon.

02:55:58.000 Thank you for having me on.

02:55:59.000 I've really enjoyed it.

02:56:00.000 You bet.

02:56:00.000 Will you come back in with us?

02:56:01.000 I'll be glad to, Alex.

02:56:02.000 I loved it.

02:56:02.000 It was great having you.

02:56:03.000 Thank you.

02:56:04.000 We ought to do a whole show on mind control.

02:56:06.000 I had a great DVD here that had a lot of facts, and it was expropriated by somebody that watched it at home, and it hasn't come back to the office yet, but I want to play some clips of that, too, on air.

02:56:16.000 So we'll have you back real soon.

02:56:17.000 We've been honored to have you.

02:56:18.000 Great.

02:56:18.000 Thank you.

02:56:18.000 You bet.

02:56:19.000 Folks, we'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:20.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:22.000 God bless you all.

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