Alex Jones Show - 20060512_Fri_Alex

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00:00:21.000 Well, it's Friday, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:30.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:32.000 We have Major General Albert N. Stubblebine III joining us, and he was the head of the Pentagon's Well, what you could call remote viewing operations.

00:00:49.000 And, you know, I don't get into a lot of this stuff.

00:00:51.000 The reason we're reporting on it is because it's real, it's going on, the military believes in it.

00:00:57.000 This guy was a, what, a three-star general and ran major operations at Fort Bragg and all over the country and worldwide as well.

00:01:06.000 He'll be joining us coming up in the third hour.

00:01:10.000 His wife, who's very interesting in her own right, Reema Labow, MD, she's a medical doctor, will be exposing the Codex Alimentarius, the move to ban vitamins for over-the-counter sale and a lot more.

00:01:25.000 I thought, why don't I just have them both on today and get into the attack on vitamins and alternative medicine.

00:01:31.000 Again, she's a medical doctor.

00:01:32.000 And then we're going to have her husband, Mr. Stubblebine on, who's on the board of a Submarine Company, the father of remote viewing.

00:01:42.000 This is some wild stuff, and it's coming up today on this Live Friday edition.

00:01:50.000 In the meantime, it's kind of a variety show of bizarreness today.

00:01:56.000 Alligator likely stalked jogger on land before attack.

00:02:00.000 This alligator grabbed a woman jogger, killed her, And of course, alligators are like cockroaches in the Florida Everglades and in Louisiana and Mississippi.

00:02:10.000 We've got alligators here in Texas. 0.99

00:02:13.000 People killed them 50, 60, 70, 100 years ago because they were killing people's kids, dogs, and wives and killing men occasionally.

00:02:20.000 They're not like the big 25-foot African crocodiles that will kill elephants.

00:02:25.000 But they're a big problem and now every few months I see a report of them killing somebody.

00:02:30.000 But they will arrest you if you go out and blast one of these bad boys.

00:02:35.000 And they have special little permits to hunt them now. 0.74

00:02:37.000 For a while it was banned, claiming they were endangered, which is total baloney.

00:02:42.000 There's alligators all over the place, my friends.

00:02:44.000 There's alligators.

00:02:46.000 In Southeast Texas.

00:02:47.000 I've seen them.

00:02:48.000 In Caddo Lake.

00:02:50.000 Alligator likely stalked jogger on land before attack.

00:02:53.000 An alligator that killed a woman jogger in Broward County Florida likely stalked her on land before the attack.

00:02:59.000 According to local 6 News.

00:03:00.000 I'm going to get into this and all the wildcats, the mountain lions, the pumas, whatever you want to call them, killing children and women.

00:03:09.000 Right here in Texas, California.

00:03:10.000 It's happening all over the place.

00:03:12.000 Don't you dare shoot one though! 0.99

00:03:14.000 They're breeding like cockroaches. 0.98

00:03:16.000 I've seen them all over the place.

00:03:18.000 I've seen them in East Texas.

00:03:19.000 I've been deer hunting and haven't seen one sneaking through the bushes looking at me.

00:03:24.000 I have ran off where I could blast it.

00:03:26.000 I've seen them all over the place.

00:03:28.000 I've seen them in Northern California.

00:03:31.000 So we'll get a little bit into that.

00:03:33.000 Also, 72 and Congress joined battle against wiretaps.

00:03:37.000 And I want to go back over some of the quotes of Bush and others, promising they're not tapping us, promising that they have to have warrants.

00:03:44.000 And then now, of course, they claim they don't need no stinking warrants.

00:03:47.000 And then there's this deceptive AP headline, Nation Split on NSA Records Collection.

00:03:56.000 And they claim, oh the nation's split, and you look at the poll, 70 plus percent are against this, a warrantless wiretapping, even when the media poses it as, aren't you for wiretapping if it keeps you safe from Al-Qaeda?

00:04:09.000 So we'll get into that, and meanwhile Bush lawyers are saying Americans have consented to have phone records seized.

00:04:16.000 We've talked a lot about this in the past, we'll get into that.

00:04:19.000 And Paul Watson's written an excellent article for PrisonPlanet.com, Big Brother wants listening In a long time ago.

00:04:27.000 Again, Big Brother was listening in a long time ago.

00:04:31.000 There's nothing new about this.

00:04:35.000 And there's some new articles here as well on Iran.

00:04:38.000 Some new articles dealing with the Minutemen and the border.

00:04:41.000 It's all coming up today and two extremely interesting guests.

00:04:46.000 I'm really looking forward to these interviews that we're going to be having coming up.

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00:08:14.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:08:15.000 Big broadcast lined up for you today.

00:08:17.000 We always have a big finish on Fridays.

00:08:19.000 Two great guests I'll tell you about a little bit later.

00:08:21.000 We have the father of remote viewing joining us and unconventional weapons coming up in the third hour.

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00:10:18.000 We'll be getting into more of that later as well.

00:10:22.000 But before I go any further...

00:10:26.000 Here, let's just go ahead and get into the alligator killing the lady. 1.00

00:10:29.000 And normally I would see this as a diversion story, but I just can't help myself.

00:10:35.000 Every few months I see a report out of the Dakotas or out of Nebraska, normally out of Northern or even Central California.

00:10:45.000 And in Texas, there haven't been any deaths lately in Texas.

00:10:48.000 They just maul people, and in famous cases fathers or mothers physically pull the lions off of their family.

00:10:56.000 They call them mountain lions, they call them wildcats, they call them puma, and there's different varieties of them, subspecies, but they can all interbreed.

00:11:04.000 You don't see a lot of attacks in Florida because it's a smaller swamp cougar, or puma, and there's many names, different Indian names.

00:11:11.000 For them, the European settlers call them wildcats or mountain lions.

00:11:18.000 The biggest are in northern California, Oregon, and Washington State, and in deep southwest Texas in Big Bend.

00:11:27.000 And they tell you, don't let your children stray off very far from you when you're in Big Bend.

00:11:31.000 I have seen wildcats in Big Bend, I've seen them in East Texas, I've seen them all over and believe me, you're walking to your deer stand, back when I had time to do such things, at 5 o'clock in the morning and as soon as it starts getting light and you see one of these big cats, before you can get your sights on them, they're gone, it'll send a big chill up your spine, especially when you hear them put out one of their calls right as it's getting light.

00:11:58.000 And see a bunch of deer go running out of the woods, across the pipeline to safety.

00:12:05.000 And my point is, is that I don't think that we should kill all the wolves, or kill all the mountain lions, or kill all the grizzlies, or kill all the moose. 0.92

00:12:16.000 But we should kill some of them, so they get a good fear, a good natural fear of the alpha predator on Terra, on planet Earth, on this dirt.

00:12:27.000 And all over the world, predator species are now attacking humans because they have enacted environmental rules and sanctuary rules all over the planet, heavily restricting or outright banning the hunting of predator species. 0.99

00:12:44.000 And it's a problem.

00:12:45.000 We now have wolves that wouldn't dare get near human settlements attacking and killing sheep and cows all over Texas.

00:12:52.000 We have the timber wolf down here now that was thought to be extinct in this area just a few years ago.

00:12:57.000 We have the Mexican red wolf.

00:12:58.000 It's really a hybrid between the coyote and a timber wolf.

00:13:03.000 And we have gray wolves, timber wolves all over the place.

00:13:06.000 They're attacking livestock all over Minnesota and the Dakotas and even into Michigan.

00:13:11.000 We have grizzly bears killing and eating people on a routine basis.

00:13:15.000 We even have black bears, normally more friendly and docile, and gregarious attacking humans in human settlements.

00:13:22.000 We have polar bears attacking and killing humans at record levels.

00:13:26.000 We have wolves now attacking humans.

00:13:28.000 They usually go after people who are around 100 pounds or lighter, small women, or children.

00:13:35.000 They're coming into major neighborhoods in central and northern California and killing children.

00:13:40.000 Every few months I see these reports, and you'd think it'd be a big sensational thing.

00:13:44.000 You'd think the media would want to pick up on this, but they stay real quiet about it.

00:13:47.000 We've got them reintroducing Puma all over the country.

00:13:51.000 We have elk attacking people.

00:13:53.000 Those that didn't know it, elk and moose are very dangerous.

00:13:56.000 And these things need to have the fear of God put back in them, and it's out of control.

00:14:02.000 And every few months I hear about an alligator attack.

00:14:04.000 Every week I hear about them eating even your German Shepherd.

00:14:07.000 I mean, you've got something like a Boston Terrier or a Chihuahua.

00:14:10.000 It's over, folks.

00:14:11.000 It's dinner.

00:14:12.000 And these people, these domesticated people in Florida, in these big city settlements, call the police and the police come and simply helicopter out or load the alligators, sometimes 15, 20 feet long. 1.00

00:14:24.000 Well, that's not true.

00:14:25.000 I think they're up to 18 here.

00:14:27.000 They have 25, even 27 foot crocodiles in Africa. 0.99

00:14:31.000 But these alligators, who aren't as aggressive and are quite stupid compared to crocodiles, are killing people, are attacking. 0.99

00:14:38.000 And if I lived in Florida, or if I lived in Southeast Texas, and an alligator came up in my yard, I'm going to blow its head off. 1.00

00:14:46.000 It's just going to happen. 0.98

00:14:48.000 Just like if I see a copperhead in my backyard, I'm going to go chop its head off with a hoe or a machete. 0.99

00:14:54.000 It's going to happen. 0.98

00:14:55.000 I'm not going to leave them slithering around.

00:14:57.000 Some areas, they claim that rattlesnakes are endangered.

00:14:59.000 And by the way, they have new standards for this.

00:15:02.000 In the past, a real endangered or threatened species designation meant that worldwide its numbers have declined to a certain level.

00:15:09.000 Now they have this regionalization where in some, what was the case a few years ago?

00:15:13.000 I interviewed the guy with the big auto.

00:15:15.000 Repair Shop and he had this supposedly rare type of timber rattler coming into his office and it had bitten someone so he put in a snake fence around the office and what happened?

00:15:28.000 They came and arrested him.

00:15:29.000 Remember that?

00:15:30.000 That had to be about 8 years ago.

00:15:32.000 It feels like four or five, but it's longer than that.

00:15:35.000 I interviewed him many years ago.

00:15:36.000 It was in mainstream news.

00:15:37.000 It was in the Washington Times and other publications.

00:15:40.000 It turned out that Rattler is all over the country.

00:15:43.000 It's just considered endangered because there's low numbers of it that have been counted.

00:15:48.000 And, of course, there's a lot of fraud involved in that.

00:15:51.000 They'll just send out a few college kids, you know, doing field samples and in three months in the woods they only see three rattlers.

00:15:59.000 They then have formulas and they claim there's only a hundred rattlers and really there's thousands of rattlers.

00:16:05.000 These people just aren't out there running into them.

00:16:08.000 And it's the same for everything else.

00:16:10.000 Golden-cheeked warbler birds.

00:16:12.000 They're all over Mexico, but there's only a small area of central Texas they roost in.

00:16:16.000 The bird isn't even threatened globally here in southern North America, but it doesn't matter.

00:16:23.000 They don't let people build over hundreds of thousands of acres in central Texas because of the golden-cheeked warbler.

00:16:27.000 It's a cute little bird.

00:16:28.000 I like birds.

00:16:29.000 In my off time, I read about them.

00:16:31.000 I like them.

00:16:32.000 Do a little bird watching when I'm out and about and have a chance to.

00:16:35.000 But at the same time, you should be able to build on your property.

00:16:39.000 These birds are not endangered or threatened.

00:16:40.000 But they claim they regionally are.

00:16:43.000 But getting back to the news, I meant to spend only a few minutes on this, but I'm belaboring it now.

00:16:48.000 Alligator likely stalked jogger on land before attack.

00:16:53.000 And all over major cities of Florida, where they're near swamps, these things are all over the place.

00:16:58.000 Running down the streets, literally, killing people, attacking animals, grabbing kids.

00:17:04.000 Normally they get away, the alligator grabs them and they fight it off.

00:17:08.000 Not in this case, it must be a big'un. 1.00

00:17:10.000 An alligator that killed a woman, Jogger, in Broward County, Florida, likely stopped her on land before the attack, according to a local 6 News report today.

00:17:19.000 A Broward County medical examiner said the alligator attacked Yavi Saraz Jimenez, 28, of Davie on land and then dragged her dismembered body into a nearby lake.

00:17:32.000 They like to drag the carcass and then they like rotten meats and when they eat a mammal and then they stick you underneath some logs and come back a week later and enjoy you.

00:17:42.000 It is my professional opinion that the alligator attacked the woman while she was on land said Dr. Jose Prepper, Broward County's medical examiner.

00:17:51.000 She died in traumatic injury sustained by an alligator attack by a mixture of blood loss and shock in my opinion.

00:17:59.000 She probably gave up. 0.82

00:18:01.000 And it says Purple ruled out drowning because little water was found in her stomach and lungs according to a story on Miami Herald's website today.

00:18:12.000 Earlier, Officer Jorge Pino, spokesman for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, said the department had witnessed two Had witnesses who had seen the woman matching her description, dangling her feet over the water's edge, but no one saw an attack, Pino said.

00:18:30.000 Trappers will try to catch and kill the animal, believed to be eight to ten feet long, and the contents of its stomach will be examined, Pino said.

00:18:37.000 Pepper said the alligator appeared to have crawled onto the land and killed her and dragged her body into the water.

00:18:43.000 He said alligators generally pull their prey into the water, Now, when they are hungry, they can be very, very aggressive and attack for food purposes.

00:18:49.000 Oh, really?

00:18:50.000 It's for food?

00:18:52.000 There have been 25 fatal alligator attacks in Florida in the last 50 years, according to Wildlife Commission, and it goes on.

00:18:59.000 Alright, yeah, most of them have been in modern days, not back in the 40's.

00:19:04.000 They need to call hunters in.

00:19:07.000 They need to have a big open hunt.

00:19:09.000 All over Florida, and hunters will deal with these things real quick, and they will retreat to the bayous.

00:19:15.000 They will retreat to the swamps.

00:19:17.000 They will retreat to the inaccessible areas. 1.00

00:19:21.000 It's time to kill the mountain lions, and it's time to kill the alligators. 0.99

00:19:26.000 The things are all over the place. 1.00

00:19:28.000 It's ridiculous!

00:19:30.000 Coast to coast they're reporting mountain lions, wolves, coyotes, killing our pets and our children. 0.86

00:19:37.000 Grizzly bears are coming into the cities. 1.00

00:19:39.000 Kill them! 1.00

00:19:41.000 This is what we do. 1.00

00:19:42.000 We're the alpha predator.

00:19:44.000 Let's start acting like it again.

00:19:46.000 Normally when these things eat pets or menace people, they just fly them off. 1.00

00:19:50.000 They need to kill them! 0.89

00:19:52.000 That'll get the message through to these animals that we're on top of the food chain. 0.99

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00:24:05.000 Just on the predator subject, in closing, remember Dr. Pianka from EOTA who says 90% of us need to die, the dying need to start now?

00:24:15.000 These are the people that are running our wildlife management programs.

00:24:19.000 This is the mindset.

00:24:20.000 And it's almost like a snickering joke when kids, even in Southern California, right outside L.A.

00:24:25.000 every year, get eaten.

00:24:26.000 And as Kevin put it during the break, they just pop the top of the skull off like it's, you know, taking the top off a can of Pringles.

00:24:36.000 And we're dying.

00:24:38.000 People are being killed.

00:24:39.000 And it needs to stop, okay?

00:24:42.000 This doesn't happen when these things are hunted.

00:24:45.000 Just to a controlled level.

00:24:46.000 I don't want to kill all of them.

00:24:48.000 It's just that we come first, okay?

00:24:50.000 Humans come first. 1.00

00:24:51.000 And a lot of these liberals, boy, they really get upset when their kids get killed and suddenly they don't love the mountain lions anymore or the alligators.

00:25:00.000 Alright, where to start here?

00:25:03.000 There is so much news.

00:25:06.000 USA Today sent shockwaves across the country announcing That the NSA is recording all telephone conversation records and creating maps of who talks to who and then who they talk to to get a picture of how our communities operate.

00:25:22.000 And then they're spying on land rights groups, they're spying on Peace groups.

00:25:27.000 They're spying on everybody.

00:25:28.000 This is old news.

00:25:29.000 It's been declassified for a long time.

00:25:31.000 That's why it's such a joke when Bush gets up months ago and says, we're not spying on you without warrants.

00:25:36.000 Oh, it's just overseas calls to the U.S.

00:25:39.000 It's just Al-C-I-A-da. 1.00

00:25:40.000 Excuse me, I mean Al-Qaeda.

00:25:43.000 Then he gets caught domestically spying, we already knew that, and he spins it and says, I'm above the law, I'm allowed to.

00:25:48.000 Look, it was going on under Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George Bush Sr., current Bush administration.

00:25:55.000 This has been going on forever.

00:25:56.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:25:59.000 It has nothing to do with stopping terrorism.

00:26:02.000 It's all about getting control of this population.

00:26:05.000 In fact, they put up big microphones all over downtown Austin with the cameras last week.

00:26:10.000 We already had a lot of microphones put up.

00:26:12.000 They started in 98, but now huge, telescopic shotgun mics are going up everywhere.

00:26:18.000 They can listen to you at hundreds of yards away!

00:26:20.000 I mean, it's a joke!

00:26:21.000 A total control grid!

00:26:23.000 But not cameras and microphones on our borders!

00:26:25.000 Oh, no!

00:26:26.000 And we've got to call the Minutemen vigilantes, and we've got to report all their movements, the federal government does, to the Mexican troops, and it's disgusting!

00:26:37.000 Meanwhile, White House lawyers are coming out, I have this here in front of me out of the Associated Press, and saying, When you signed your phone company agreement for service, you didn't read the fine print.

00:26:52.000 Well, we've talked about this on air.

00:26:53.000 It does indeed say they can shell your data, do whatever they want with it, give it to whoever they want, and that's to get around this being illegal.

00:27:01.000 But it's still illegal for Bush to use that data for law enforcement purposes.

00:27:06.000 And they're saying, oh, you signed the agreement.

00:27:08.000 It's like the Know Your Customer legislation.

00:27:10.000 We beat that in 2000.

00:27:11.000 They just brought it back in 2001.

00:27:14.000 And now when you go in and sign a bank account record, you say the IRS can take all your money without judge, jury, or charges?

00:27:20.000 Then you waive your rights.

00:27:21.000 But then you've got to have a bank account to live.

00:27:23.000 See, they get you to waive them with the government.

00:27:25.000 You waive your rights to be spied on.

00:27:27.000 You waive your rights for suspicious transaction reports to be filled out on you.

00:27:32.000 You waive your rights to allow them to take your safety deposit box.

00:27:37.000 You waive your rights for everything.

00:27:39.000 When you get a driver's license, you waive your rights.

00:27:42.000 Okay?

00:27:42.000 And then they call it a privilege.

00:27:44.000 No, they get you through contract fraud to waive your rights.

00:27:50.000 And here it is.

00:27:51.000 in the mainstream media.

00:27:54.000 Government lawyers say Americans consented to have phone records seized.

00:28:00.000 Friday's Washington Post reveals the Bush Administration's legal response to revelations that tens of millions of Americans' personal phone records have been acquired by the National Security Agency.

00:28:10.000 Excerpts from the Post follow.

00:28:11.000 Full article here.

00:28:13.000 One government lawyer who has participated in negotiations with telecommunications providers to the Bush Administration has argued that a company can turn over its entire database.

00:28:21.000 In 96, they started putting the NSA offices in, folks.

00:28:24.000 So this is spin.

00:28:26.000 In its entire database of customer records and even the stored content of calls and emails.

00:28:31.000 Because customers have consented to that when they establish accounts, the fine print of many telephone and internet service contracts includes catch-all provisions, the lawyer said, authorizing the company to disclose such records to protect public safety or national security or in compliance with a lawful government request.

00:28:49.000 It is within their terms of service because you have consented to that, the lawyer said.

00:28:53.000 If the company also consents, and they do it voluntarily, the U.S.

00:28:58.000 government can accept it.

00:29:00.000 They signed an agreement with federal regulators to take six billion dollars, and it went over three billion, they were paid over nine billion, to put these in, and in 96 the regulations said that by October 1st, 2001, every phone call would be tracked, traced, in some cases recorded, but its entire destination in history stored forever.

00:29:21.000 We're going to come back.

00:29:23.000 I don't want to get sped up here.

00:29:24.000 I want to cover all this in detail.

00:29:27.000 How many years did I tell you this?

00:29:29.000 It was public!

00:29:31.000 Oh, Alex Jones claims they listen to everything.

00:29:34.000 Alex Jones claims they record everything.

00:29:36.000 But listen, all this is coming out for a reason.

00:29:39.000 They're doing this by design.

00:29:40.000 We'll break down why on the other side.

00:29:43.000 Get into a bunch of other news on the NSA.

00:29:45.000 This thing's breaking big.

00:29:46.000 A lot of new facets are being revealed and surfacing.

00:29:52.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:12.000 Welcome back, my friends.

00:33:13.000 Kathy, Eric, Taylor, Zane, many other callers.

00:33:15.000 Thank you.

00:33:16.000 Your calls are coming up after I can cover some of the new info on the NSA scandal breaking and the amazing spin and propaganda and conditioning we're witnessing.

00:33:26.000 Tell you really my take on what's behind all this, at least what's behind a lot of it.

00:33:31.000 Because they take anything bad that happens to them, anything bad that exposes them as criminals, and they just basically spin it to their own betterment, to their own advancement.

00:33:42.000 Before we do that, I've got a big 9-11 conference coming up June 24th and June 25th in Los Angeles, California at the Sheraton downtown.

00:33:53.000 And I suggest you get your tickets now and get your rooms there now.

00:33:56.000 If not, there are literally, it's got to be hundreds of motels and hotels right in that area.

00:34:00.000 I mean, it's ridiculous the choices there are.

00:34:04.000 And we're going to have Dr. Stephen Jones, the physics professor, getting into the controlled demolition of the towers.

00:34:09.000 We're going to have Dr. Bob Bowman, former head of the Star Wars program, exposing how 9-11 is an inside job.

00:34:15.000 Looks like Ray McGovern may be coming.

00:34:17.000 That's tentative right now.

00:34:19.000 And we've also got Dylan Avery with Loose Change 2nd Edition with some special little tidbits he's going to be airing there.

00:34:26.000 And on top of that, we're going to have Webster Tarpley.

00:34:29.000 We're going to have Professor Jim Fetzer, the head of the 9-11 Scholars for Truth. 0.54

00:34:35.000 Myself, I'll be screening my new film, which we are officially going to call Terror Storm.

00:34:40.000 I think that's the best name, a storm of terror.

00:34:44.000 That is what we're witnessing.

00:34:45.000 We'll screen that.

00:34:46.000 And there'll be some surprise guests.

00:34:48.000 We're not going to announce until you're there, but some very interesting surprise guests that, believe me, you don't want to miss.

00:34:56.000 And it's very expensive doing this in LA, but normally a conference that's two days, ten hours a day, would be, you know, $200.

00:35:06.000 It's $75 per ticket.

00:35:08.000 If you get multiple tickets, it drops down to $34.

00:35:11.000 A ticket to encourage more people to come.

00:35:13.000 Go to InfoWars.com and get the tickets online.

00:35:17.000 We'll send you an e-ticket with your ticket number and everything.

00:35:20.000 Or you can call toll free and then order the tickets and they can answer your questions.

00:35:24.000 And we'll mail you out a physical ticket with your ticket number.

00:35:27.000 And then everybody gets a little wristband, a colored wristband, and you don't have to worry.

00:35:30.000 You only check in one time there on Saturday morning.

00:35:35.000 You can read the itinerary, the speakers, everything that's happening by linking through via InfoWars.com and get tickets via the secure online big mainstream ticket service Tix.com that we're using.

00:35:47.000 So you can call toll free 1-888-253-3139.

00:35:48.000 1-888-253-3139.

00:35:48.000 That's 888-253-3139.

00:35:51.000 That's 888-253-3139.

00:35:55.000 Or you can simply go to Infowars.com to get your tickets today.

00:35:59.000 And we have sold more than 20% of the tickets only now, what, six, seven days into offering these.

00:36:05.000 There's 40 days left until the conference.

00:36:09.000 I would imagine that the thousand tickets that are available will be gone before it opens.

00:36:14.000 So I would secure yours now, make a little trip out of it.

00:36:18.000 It's during vacation time anyways, and then maybe go see the sites and things on Monday and Tuesday after the conference and then go back to your hacienda, wherever that may be.

00:36:27.000 But whether it's Salt Lake City, or whether you live in Portland, Oregon, or LA, or Austin, Texas, people from all over the country are saying they're going.

00:36:33.000 It's going to be a once-in-a-lifetime event, believe me.

00:36:37.000 So again, that is coming up June 24th and 25th.

00:36:39.000 We hope to see you there.

00:36:40.000 All the details are at InfoWars.com.

00:36:44.000 But again, if you don't have a computer, you can call and get your tickets and we will mail them to you.

00:36:48.000 But we're going to cut off the tickets that you can buy Well, the more I think about it, for people that order, I guess, in the last two weeks or so, we'll probably just have it where your physical ticket is there.

00:36:58.000 Then you'll have to check in with us once you get there, but that'll be okay.

00:37:01.000 We'll probably keep selling tickets over the toll-free number right up until a few days before.

00:37:05.000 So, again, InfoWars.com or 1-888-253-3139.

00:37:11.000 Now here in just a few minutes I'm going to get into all the details of the NSA.

00:37:14.000 Very, very important situation.

00:37:16.000 It's a total violation of the Fourth Amendment.

00:37:18.000 Totally criminal.

00:37:19.000 And how they're trying to spin it and sell it to the American people.

00:37:23.000 Then we'll get to the loaded phone lines here.

00:37:25.000 But gold hit.

00:37:26.000 I normally have Ted Anderson on every three or four months.

00:37:30.000 I'm going to have him on more and more here for the next few weeks because, I mean, I bought gold when it was $230, when it was $300, when it was $400, when it was $440 a few months ago, when it was $500, when it was $640 a week ago.

00:37:41.000 You know, a few coins here, a few coins there.

00:37:44.000 The stock market itself is really at about $6,500 because the dollar has almost been devalued by half.

00:37:50.000 So, if you do the real numbers, we've had Chief Economist for Reagan and Bush on talking about this, that the stock market's really at about $6,500, not $11,600 as you've been hearing.

00:38:01.000 It's so important to understand that.

00:38:04.000 But look at gold.

00:38:05.000 I mean, it's keeping its value.

00:38:07.000 It's $717 and going up, at least when I checked an hour ago, so join us just for two or three minutes, is Ted Anderson.

00:38:07.000 It's growing.

00:38:16.000 Ted, we keep telling people that fiat currency can be devalued down to nothing.

00:38:22.000 That is happening.

00:38:23.000 I'm just horrified.

00:38:24.000 I'm not even really pleased, but at least I invested in gold, so I'm sitting pretty.

00:38:31.000 I think people should continue to buy gold now before it even goes up more, Ted.

00:38:34.000 I mean, even mainstream analysts in the Wall Street Journal are saying it could go over $1,200 right now.

00:38:40.000 Ted, what do you see happening?

00:38:41.000 Well, you know, like I said just a couple days ago, Alex, I believe that gold could hit $2,400 an ounce.

00:38:47.000 There's a lot of analysts that look at it from that perspective as well.

00:38:51.000 When you consider and you factor in the inflationary effect that has happened since the last peak in the marketplace, which was 1980, And we had approximately $800 gold.

00:39:00.000 You could easily say that the money supply was increased by at least three times since then.

00:39:05.000 It's been 20-some years.

00:39:06.000 Ted, Alan Greenspan admitted they doubled the money supply in the last six years, so it's got to be more than three times.

00:39:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:12.000 And then, of course, that makes $2,400 a very conservative figure.

00:39:15.000 But at this particular time, gold has been at $719 now.

00:39:21.000 It's up another couple of bucks since the last time you looked.

00:39:24.000 And the market is hot.

00:39:25.000 People are getting involved in the precious metals.

00:39:27.000 It's time for people to move on it.

00:39:30.000 Plus, also, you know, if you take a look at the advice that you've been giving to the people in the past year.

00:39:34.000 I mean, we started talking about getting involved in the precious metals at this 248 level, and now we're looking at 719.60.

00:39:41.000 The United States has not stopped deficit spending.

00:39:44.000 As a matter of fact, we're deficit spending more now than we have in any other administration.

00:39:49.000 And as long as we're willing to deficit spend, the Federal Reserve Bank is going to continue to print money in order to finance that.

00:39:55.000 And foreign countries worldwide are dumping the dollar in a controlled descent right now.

00:40:00.000 Yeah, it is.

00:40:01.000 They're getting out of the U.S.

00:40:03.000 dollar.

00:40:03.000 They're getting into the precious metals.

00:40:04.000 That's a testimonial to the fact that the globalists even think that the dollar is a bad investment.

00:40:09.000 And at this time, I recommend fully That everybody have at least 20 to 30 percent of their portfolio tied into gold and silver, and that's conservative.

00:40:18.000 You know, you take a look at the real estate bubble that's being created by the enormous debt that's out there.

00:40:23.000 And they've already started lancing that.

00:40:25.000 Yeah.

00:40:25.000 So, you know, the only gold and silver is not, you know, there's no credit here.

00:40:29.000 People buy gold and silver physically because of the fact that they, you know, that they want to hold on to it.

00:40:34.000 Nobody has taken loans out to buy gold and silver.

00:40:37.000 The futures market is, you know, shows it has a little bit of leverage in it, but it's It's not like the real estate bubble that we have created here, and it certainly is not like the stock market and all the margins that are going on over there.

00:40:48.000 Well, Ted, I mean, I didn't dump gold when it went up from $240 to $500 to $600 to $700.

00:40:52.000 I'm not dumping now.

00:40:54.000 In fact, even at this price, as soon as I get some more capital, I'm going to move more into gold.

00:40:58.000 I just made a purchase, what, two weeks ago and just received it on Monday.

00:41:02.000 So all of this is going on.

00:41:04.000 I've shopped gold, folks.

00:41:06.000 Ted, a few days ago, offered, and that's the parent company of Genesis, Midas Resources, Ted was offering $10 pieces and I asked him, I said, can I say this on air?

00:41:15.000 And Ted said, yeah, go ahead.

00:41:16.000 Ted was making about $24 profit per coin.

00:41:19.000 That's just enough to pay his brokers have enough money to operate.

00:41:22.000 That's how competitive it is.

00:41:23.000 Ted is on the low end of how much gold is going for.

00:41:26.000 You can find it a lot more expensive or rarely you can find it a few dollars lower.

00:41:31.000 It is just an insanely good deal.

00:41:33.000 Ted, what are you offering today?

00:41:34.000 You're almost out of those $10 pieces that you offered a few days ago.

00:41:38.000 Well, actually, the $10 pieces just jumped up $4 since the offer on two days ago, and what I have right now are the $5 gold pieces, and they're currently right now at a price of $261 a coin.

00:41:53.000 And $261 a coin is an excellent buy to be getting into the fives.

00:41:56.000 Plus, in addition to this, Alex, like we've talked about on the tens, it's a very finite supply.

00:42:01.000 There's not even enough of these to go around for the people who live in Austin, Texas, much less the entire United States.

00:42:08.000 I'm recommending that people pick up rolls of 20.

00:42:11.000 And they're at $261 per coin, and move on it now.

00:42:16.000 Gold right now is sitting at $719.60 an ounce.

00:42:18.000 But what if you're somebody like me, and you can only buy like four of those coins, five of those coins?

00:42:24.000 Of course we'll service that order.

00:42:26.000 If that's what you can afford, we recommend that you do what you can do.

00:42:29.000 But, there's a lot of people out there that are looking at it, scratching their head, going, what do I do?

00:42:33.000 Well, this is a nice way to get into a smaller piece of gold, something that's going to fit into a purse, into a pocket, something that you can put, it's portable.

00:42:41.000 If we have trouble here in the United States, and I don't know how we're not going to have trouble here in the United States with the way that people are dumping the currency abroad.

00:42:47.000 Ron Paul is saying we're going to have a massive depression.

00:42:50.000 I hope the Congressman's wrong.

00:42:52.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:42:53.000 That's what you need to have, is you need to have something portable, private, something that you can put in your pocket, that you can bring with you.

00:42:58.000 Because I can put you anywhere in the world, and this coin is going to hold value.

00:43:01.000 You're going to be able to trade it for goods and services.

00:43:03.000 $5 piece?

00:43:03.000 This is a U.S.

00:43:04.000 $5 piece.

00:43:04.000 It's a U.S.

00:43:07.000 Very recognizable.

00:43:08.000 It comes straight out of the mint.

00:43:10.000 They're in proof in business strike condition.

00:43:12.000 They're still in the sealed holders from the mint.

00:43:16.000 So you have actually a coin that, when you look at it, it's got a mirror finish to it.

00:43:20.000 It's beautiful.

00:43:21.000 The Constitution coin is one of them.

00:43:23.000 The Congress coin is another.

00:43:24.000 There's a whole long list of them that they make.

00:43:27.000 But the nice part about it is, it is something that they've defined as a collector item.

00:43:32.000 And so people are getting a collector item with collector value near what people are getting bullion for, and so that's what I like.

00:43:42.000 I like to get numismatic near bullion, and that's what you're getting right now when you do this, folks.

00:43:48.000 Do you have any of the $10 pieces left?

00:43:50.000 Well, there's a few left.

00:43:51.000 They're about $3 more.

00:43:52.000 If you want to get the $10 pieces, go ahead and order those as well.

00:43:55.000 And to lock this deal in, you've got to say the Alex Jones Show offer, right Tim?

00:43:59.000 Yep.

00:44:00.000 Yep, that's right.

00:44:00.000 This is a special.

00:44:01.000 I mean, you guys are selling gold hand over fist right now, so give them a call.

00:44:05.000 800-686-2237.

00:44:05.000 $10 pieces, $5 pieces.

00:44:10.000 And the brokers will be there, what, until 6 or 7 tonight?

00:44:10.000 1-800-686-2237.

00:44:12.000 Oh, they'll be there.

00:44:13.000 I'll have people there at 11 o'clock tonight, no doubt.

00:44:16.000 Okay, 1-800-686-2237.

00:44:17.000 So even if you hear this tonight, you can call 1-800-686-2237.

00:44:19.000 6 or 7 tonight?

00:44:20.000 Oh, they'll be there.

00:44:21.000 I'll have people there at 11 o'clock tonight, no doubt.

00:44:23.000 Okay, 1-800-686-2237.

00:44:27.000 So even if you hear this tonight, you can call 1-800-686-2237.

00:44:31.000 And sometimes Ted doesn't offer.

00:44:34.000 I call him two or three days later myself wanting to get some coins to go bury in the ground, literally.

00:44:39.000 And he goes, I'm sorry, that offer is no longer available, Alex.

00:44:42.000 We sold out.

00:44:44.000 So you need to call him now, 800-686-2237.

00:44:45.000 Ted, I feel really good telling listeners to buy videos, buy water filters, buy gold.

00:44:53.000 Everything I've told people to buy is real. 0.98

00:44:55.000 I don't sell the snake oil like some of the pathetic other fake patriots out there. 0.98

00:45:00.000 I'm not involved in that. 0.98

00:45:03.000 I'm involved in real things.

00:45:05.000 You're involved in real things.

00:45:06.000 I commend you, Ted.

00:45:08.000 I hope people will call you and get some gold now.

00:45:09.000 Well, the other nice thing about it, too, Alex, just think of all the listeners that took advantage of buying gold here just a couple years ago.

00:45:15.000 Not only have they helped produce the Alex Jones Show and make a difference in this world, In addition to that, now they're sitting on something that's doubled in price, and they have twice as much value in their portfolio.

00:45:27.000 Doubled?

00:45:29.000 It's more than doubled, Ted!

00:45:31.000 Yeah, it's been more than doubled, that's for sure.

00:45:34.000 I mean, in silver, 200%.

00:45:37.000 We were selling those bags of silver, and it's up more than 200%.

00:45:41.000 And so, yeah, we've got to, you know, I just got to say, for starters, thank you very much.

00:45:48.000 For being supportive and supporting the Alex Jones Show, Midas Resources, and Genesis Communications Network.

00:45:54.000 That I gotta say, I'm very grateful for.

00:45:56.000 But for you, the folks that are getting involved with it, you're putting together a position.

00:46:00.000 It's like a savings account at the same time you're helping.

00:46:03.000 You're helping carry the cause, and I just think that that's such a wonderful thing.

00:46:06.000 All right, Ted.

00:46:07.000 Ted, thank you so much for coming on with us.

00:46:08.000 Take care.

00:46:09.000 Yep, you too.

00:46:10.000 Give him a call.

00:46:10.000 1-800-686-2237.

00:46:11.000 And I think gold's going to keep going up.

00:46:15.000 I think it'll probably hit $1,000 in the next six months.

00:46:17.000 It may go down to $600 again and then bounce up to $800.

00:46:19.000 I think you'll see some bouncing up and down.

00:46:21.000 That's what the graphs do. 0.97

00:46:22.000 I don't care!

00:46:23.000 If gold went down to $500 an ounce, I wouldn't dump any of the gold I've got.

00:46:27.000 Because it's real, folks.

00:46:29.000 There's at least some tangible value forever in it.

00:46:32.000 It's not like these paper notes.

00:46:35.000 I just wish I would have bought more gold, but again, I'm not that capitalized, so I can't. 0.97

00:46:39.000 You're crazy if you don't.

00:46:41.000 Yeah, I think you should give them a call. 0.96

00:46:44.000 800-686-2237.

00:46:44.000 Again, I hardly ever talk about this.

00:46:46.000 I don't get into it.

00:46:47.000 I recommend three or four times a year you do this, and I'm telling you twice in one week you need to, because it could just go up and up and up.

00:46:54.000 Alright, let me get into NSA, and then we'll get to Kathy, Eric, Taylor, Zane, and others.

00:47:00.000 Okay, this is what's going on.

00:47:02.000 They're announcing the spying to scare everybody.

00:47:05.000 Then Bush gets told you're a criminal, then he claims he's above the law and allowed to do it.

00:47:09.000 They're now announcing they're listening to everything you're doing and everything you're up to, because they know Bush's approval rating now dropped another point to 29%.

00:47:17.000 This is an attempt at a chilling effect.

00:47:20.000 So what if the NSA hears tens of millions of Americans saying we know the government's rogue and criminal? 0.73

00:47:26.000 They're the crooks!

00:47:27.000 They're the ones that ought to be afraid. 0.59

00:47:29.000 This does not intimidate me.

00:47:31.000 Then their lawyers come out and say, we're allowed to do this because you signed a contract saying that we can give your info to whoever we want.

00:47:37.000 But that's not true because the government coerced industry and paid them, this is racketeering, nine billion dollars to put these snooping hubs in from 96 to 2001.

00:47:46.000 Look how they set that all up just for right up to 9-11, one month after 9-11, September, October, boom, six years before set up to start October 1st.

00:47:55.000 Your cell phones track you down to three feet.

00:47:58.000 It's sick!

00:48:01.000 It's totally and completely sick!

00:48:04.000 But the good news is this...

00:48:07.000 Seventy-two in Congress joined battle against wiretaps.

00:48:10.000 Seventy-two members of Congress filed papers late Wednesday seeking to end President George W. Bush's warrantless NSA eavesdropping program.

00:48:17.000 The filing came just before a report Thursday in USA Today which revealed the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping program had collected call records on tens of millions of Americans through agreements with AT&T, Verizon, and Bell South.

00:48:29.000 Bell South and AT&T have merged.

00:48:32.000 It also comes a day after lawyers looking at NSA program abruptly closed their probe after the Bush administration refused to grant them clearances.

00:48:40.000 This is unbelievable.

00:48:41.000 This is unbelievable.

00:48:44.000 Again, the minute men are vigilantes and are being spied on by the government, that information is given to the Mexican troops that kill our own police.

00:48:51.000 But then, they're going to spy on all Americans after they told you it was only Al-Qaeda.

00:48:56.000 And, oh, it's to keep you safe from terrorists.

00:48:58.000 It's a sick joke. 0.59

00:49:00.000 It's outrageous.

00:49:03.000 Let's talk to Kathy in Virginia.

00:49:04.000 Kathy, go ahead.

00:49:05.000 Yes, thanks, Alex.

00:49:07.000 I want to share something brief that I'd like to share to help and maybe warn your listeners some food for thought.

00:49:14.000 You know, you take a young man growing up in a hovel in Mexico, and he comes up here and makes a few dollars enough to make a payment on a big, macho pickup truck.

00:49:23.000 Two weeks ago, I dropped off some recyclables right behind the new Day Labor Center.

00:49:27.000 It's been in the news recently in Herndon, Virginia.

00:49:29.000 I was waiting to make a right-hand turn when I hear a big BOOM crash!

00:49:34.000 And then a big black pickup truck is headed sideways towards my Grand Dam.

00:49:38.000 And the next second after impact, he flipped up on top of my hood, crashing, banging, everything falling off his truck, glass shattering.

00:49:48.000 It was a hideous accident, but fortunately, nobody was seriously hurt.

00:49:51.000 But my point is, these very, very poor people do not understand the power behind these huge machines that they're operating.

00:49:58.000 Let me stop you, and I'll hold you over if need be. 0.99

00:49:59.000 This is so key.

00:50:01.000 It's not just the leprosy going from three cases a year to 7,000, Associated Press.

00:50:06.000 Leper colonies now in East Texas have actually set up leper colonies. 0.88

00:50:10.000 It's not the drug-immune-resistant TB.

00:50:12.000 It's not the crime.

00:50:14.000 Statistically, they had an article out of North Carolina a few months ago showing that in North Carolina, illegals are only 8% of the population, but they were 30-something percent, I forget the exact number, it was in the news, of the wrecks.

00:50:27.000 And literally, I mean, I'm worried about 16-year-olds, folks.

00:50:31.000 I can't believe my parents gave me a car.

00:50:33.000 I mean, I had a bunch of wrecks then, and I really haven't had wrecks since.

00:50:36.000 I've had one where a tornado blew me off the road.

00:50:38.000 And the point is, these people don't have driver's license, nothing.

00:50:40.000 They just get in a car, no driver's safety, no nothing.

00:50:43.000 And it is, I mean, it is, it's so horrible.

00:50:47.000 Stay there.

00:50:48.000 I mean, it is scary.

00:50:49.000 You're going down I-35, these illegal aliens, drop, drive, do whatever they want. 1.00

00:50:53.000 It is so dangerous.

00:50:56.000 Stay there, Kathy.

00:50:56.000 We'll be right back.

00:50:57.000 I want to hear more.

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00:54:11.000 My friends, this is not hype.

00:54:14.000 The illegal aliens are allowed to drunk drive everything. 1.00

00:54:17.000 Cops take them to jail.

00:54:18.000 I have a lot of friends that are police, but they get let right back out.

00:54:22.000 Uh, and it's horrible.

00:54:23.000 I mean, I have been hit several times just rear-ended at red lights by illegal aliens.

00:54:28.000 And they get out and start crying and say, no insurance, please let me go.

00:54:30.000 And I just, I just throw my hands up and leave.

00:54:33.000 Okay, fine.

00:54:35.000 Uh, in fact, one time I barely rear-ended an illegal alien, and they just said, no police, no police, no insurance, you know, just... I mean, to be fair, I was in a Wendy's parking lot, and barely bumped him, there was a little bit of scratch on their car, so I've done it too, but the point is, is that there's no insurance, no nothing.

00:54:50.000 Kathy, so you got hit and hit pretty hard, what happened?

00:54:53.000 Well, he made a left turn in front of a van and tried to beat out this young lady in the van.

00:54:58.000 But the other point I wanted to make, as I said, it was right exactly... So what happened after the wreck?

00:55:03.000 Well, that's what I want to say.

00:55:04.000 It was right next to that, where the illegal aliens go at that new day labor site. 0.86

00:55:10.000 So there were like, oh, 10, 15 buddies around him, getting him out of the truck, hovering around him.

00:55:16.000 But the two white women that he involved, the van and then me, who was innocently Just sitting there in my car, because there was no concern whatsoever while we were waiting for the ambulance to come about us.

00:55:28.000 You weren't part of the Raza?

00:55:30.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, they were all just hovering around him and worried about him and they were just...

00:55:37.000 What did the police do when they got there?

00:55:39.000 No charges, right?

00:55:40.000 Oh, yes.

00:55:41.000 Yes, he was charged with reckless driving.

00:55:43.000 He was charged with the accident.

00:55:45.000 And he was charged with reckless driving.

00:55:46.000 But he'll just, he'll just revolving door go out of the jail.

00:55:49.000 Or if he stays in the jail, we'll all pay for it.

00:55:52.000 Well, he didn't go to the jail.

00:55:53.000 He went to the hospital, you see.

00:55:55.000 But do you have any...

00:55:56.000 I mean I've been all over Mexico and I've driven in Mexico and I mean folks anybody who's been there knows I'm telling the truth they drive like psychopathic maniacs running red lights everywhere the police don't think anything of it and they have to put huge speed humps all over the highways because people drive so recklessly.

00:56:13.000 I was with a Mexican cab driver a few months ago and I said slow down and he was going like 80 miles an hour.

00:56:19.000 Well do you have any advice?

00:56:21.000 Now I'm going to show up at his His, um, court hearing for the reckless driving.

00:56:26.000 Do you have any kind of advice for me?

00:56:28.000 Demand that he be fully charged and kept in jail or he'll go out and kill somebody. 0.92

00:56:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:56:33.000 So they can, um, if they charge him with reckless driving, they can, uh, we can demand that he be jailed?

00:56:40.000 Absolutely.

00:56:40.000 Willful, reckless driving that caused injuries to someone else.

00:56:43.000 There's a bunch of different charges on that.

00:56:45.000 Plus, he's an illegal alien.

00:56:47.000 If he's an illegal alien, he needs to be deported. 1.00

00:56:49.000 Yeah, I don't know if he is an illegal alien, but there's one good twist to the story.

00:56:54.000 Believe it or not, he actually had insurance.

00:56:57.000 So he was there picking up the day laborers.

00:56:59.000 I have no idea what he was doing there.

00:57:01.000 Because of course, now when he, when it first, first crashed and he flipped on top of me in very, very plain English, he said to me, get me out of here!

00:57:09.000 I heard that twice.

00:57:11.000 But then, the insurance agent, when I talked to his insurance agent, he said, well we had to switch over to a Spanish speaking agent because they don't speak any English.

00:57:20.000 But boy, he sure knew how to say, get me out of here!

00:57:23.000 I hear you, I appreciate your call.

00:57:25.000 I'm glad you're okay.

00:57:27.000 And folks, if we had 25 million Russians here, I'd be just as angry. 1.00

00:57:30.000 And we always talk about Mexicans, Mexicans, Mexicans, because that's 80%, ladies and gentlemen, of the illegal aliens. 1.00

00:57:36.000 And it's horrible. 0.98

00:57:38.000 I mean, it is an epidemic.

00:57:40.000 Just type into Google, illegal alien auto accidents, or illegal aliens driving without insurance, and you'll get... I mean, every day or two, tractor-trailer flips over with 40 illegals in trailer on Icy Road, didn't have insurance or driver's license. 0.81

00:57:53.000 And you're absolutely right.

00:57:54.000 These are hard-working folks that come up here, they work, they get cars, they drive around.

00:57:58.000 And it's just... it's a nightmare.

00:58:02.000 We're going to break and come back and jam in your calls.

00:58:04.000 We're going to go to Eric and Taylor and Zane and John and everybody else that's patiently holding.

00:58:11.000 And we'll have a free-for-all too with calls into the second and third hours.

00:58:16.000 Two big guests coming up.

00:58:18.000 But really, they were having on average of three leprosy cases a year until 2004.

00:58:25.000 There were 7,000 cases.

00:58:27.000 We got those numbers in 05.

00:58:29.000 We haven't gotten 05 numbers yet.

00:58:30.000 They come out a year later.

00:58:33.000 I mean, wet leprosy, ladies and gentlemen.

00:58:35.000 Leprosy is spreading.

00:58:36.000 7,000 plus cases.

00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll free 877-376-45.

00:58:46.000 Help! 0.98

00:58:46.000 877-376-45 help big brother mainstream media Government cover-ups. 0.98

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Got two big guests coming up.

00:59:20.000 We got Medical doctor Reema Laboe coming up to talk about a bunch of key issues.

00:59:24.000 We'll tell you about that when she comes up.

00:59:26.000 Then we have the high-level multi-star general joining us to talk about some incredible issues later in this hour as well, into the third hour.

00:59:36.000 Right now, let's go right back to your calls, get some more in.

00:59:38.000 Zane, Zane, where are you calling us from today?

00:59:42.000 Hello?

00:59:43.000 Yes, Zane, where are you calling us from?

00:59:45.000 South Carolina.

00:59:46.000 Welcome.

00:59:47.000 Thank you.

00:59:47.000 I'd just like to make a few points.

00:59:50.000 I'm a senior at high school at Eastside High School in Greer, South Carolina.

00:59:54.000 Yes.

00:59:55.000 I was listening to these two females talking about Independence Day. 0.88

01:00:00.000 They had just figured out why we celebrated July the 4th, and they had no earthly idea that the Constitution was separate from the Declaration of Independence.

01:00:11.000 Well, I was talking to a British film crew who was here, and they were freaked out because multiple times they had people go, Oh, you're English!

01:00:18.000 Does that mean you come from that place called England?

01:00:20.000 And of course, this harkens back to the big geography bee studies they do every year.

01:00:25.000 Two-thirds of people 18 to 24 can't find Iraq on a map.

01:00:30.000 I mean, it's supposed to be a place of learning where we learn these two girls are in a U.S. 1.00

01:00:35.000 history class, and they should have learned it, but They just don't care anymore.

01:00:39.000 I'd also like to make a point of, um... Working at a, um... Working as a Boy Scout leader.

01:00:45.000 I just made Eagle Scout when I turned 18.

01:00:47.000 I decided to stay on as a Boy Scout leader.

01:00:51.000 I was talking to the main leader, and he wanted my email address.

01:00:54.000 You know, it's Zane with M4, whatever.

01:00:56.000 And he said, you know, as paramilitary, Homeland Security's gonna be all over you.

01:01:00.000 And I said, I already know they are.

01:01:01.000 Being a survivalist, whenever I order a survival supply, or a paramilitary style...

01:01:07.000 It's always delayed.

01:01:08.000 Wait a minute.

01:01:09.000 You're an Eagle Scout.

01:01:11.000 You're a leader.

01:01:12.000 The leader above you said you can't have that address with InfoWars.

01:01:17.000 Oh, see, this is the... Well, you know in South Carolina they have the anti-terror training manual that says any property rights activist... We're all terrorists.

01:01:24.000 Any red-blooded American is a terrorist.

01:01:27.000 And this shows the Stasi mentality. 0.57

01:01:30.000 So he knew what InfoWars was, huh?

01:01:32.000 He didn't know what it was, but he thought it was too paramilitary.

01:01:35.000 Whenever I order a paramilitary style object for survivalist, you know, supplies, it is always delayed in Greenville, it's always opened, all the packages are always open, it's always, the box is always roughed up, and you can always see where they used a different type of tape.

01:01:49.000 Oh yeah, that's our free country, sir, that's our free country.

01:01:52.000 I flew back from New York and bought my daughter a silver baby rattle at Tiffany's, it was like 80 bucks, and they got into my bags that I checked, They pulled it out, they unwrapped it out of the wrapper, didn't even re-wrap the packaging, ripped the packaging off, and threw the rattle in the bag.

01:02:08.000 That's our free country, sir.

01:02:10.000 Having our stuff dug through, our mail read.

01:02:13.000 Does it make you sick?

01:02:16.000 Freedom of an Eagle Scout, and they're supposed to be fighting a war to give us freedom?

01:02:20.000 And they make me the terrorist, and that makes me sick.

01:02:24.000 Well, God bless you, sir.

01:02:25.000 It's good they're real patriots.

01:02:27.000 One more.

01:02:28.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:02:28.000 Do you still have... I had a teacher who didn't believe me that police We're tasering little kids, so I told her I'd find five articles where they tasered someone under the skin.

01:02:36.000 Just type into Google, six-year-old tasered, five-year-old tasered, child tasered, you'll get it.

01:02:41.000 You still have that taser archive on InfoWars.com?

01:02:44.000 Yeah, somewhere in there, but it's all over the news, sir.

01:02:47.000 Just go to Google and type in child tasered and you'll get hundreds.

01:02:50.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:02:51.000 Thank you, good to hear from you.

01:02:52.000 Let's jam in Chad in Texas.

01:02:54.000 Chad, go ahead.

01:02:55.000 Hello?

01:02:57.000 Yes, Chad.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, I've got a couple quick things.

01:03:01.000 The other night they had that worship piece on about Donald Rumsfeld on Fox News.

01:03:06.000 About what a great leader he is, yes?

01:03:08.000 Oh yeah, like he was, you know, God and everything.

01:03:10.000 And I don't know if you heard about what he said when they asked him about 9-11.

01:03:15.000 He said, fabulous.

01:03:17.000 Well, he had a piece of the plane and he says, you know, this is a piece of plane that hit Pentagon.

01:03:21.000 And the reporter says, fabulous.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, and he says, uh, yes, I like to look at it.

01:03:27.000 It's a reminder of what happened and who we are.

01:03:30.000 You know, like, that's just a weird, you know, uh, one of those Freudian things that most people, you know, hidden in plain sight deal.

01:03:39.000 Well, he just said twice that a missile hit the Pentagon, and he said twice they shot down 93.

01:03:43.000 Do you have anything else you want to add, Chad?

01:03:47.000 Yeah, really quick.

01:03:47.000 Well, stay there.

01:03:48.000 I've got to get the guest on, but I'll go back to you, because I don't want to shortchange you.

01:03:51.000 Stay there.

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01:07:28.000 Army, retired.

01:07:31.000 Others bill him as kind of an expert in unconventional weapons, and we don't mean WMDs, folks.

01:07:35.000 We mean, I guess, weapons of the mind, mind sciences.

01:07:39.000 I would call him the father, that's what he's called, of remote viewing, which we've never discussed on this broadcast.

01:07:45.000 Now, I'm not saying it's real or it's not real.

01:07:48.000 I'm just saying it's real that they have these projects, and I've read some of the speeches he's given.

01:07:52.000 He can't get into too much on it because a lot of it's classified, but he ran these programs, and so he's like the leader of the good guys in the X-Files or something, or maybe the X-Men.

01:08:04.000 So I don't even know.

01:08:05.000 I mean, this is just wild stuff, and both our guests are extremely intelligent.

01:08:09.000 And first we're going to be talking about the Codex Alimentarius, which I am up on, this big international move by the drug companies to get laws passed at the state level, I mean the nation-state level, to restrict even over-the-counter medicines, vitamins, vitamin C, and very, very serious, we saw Clinton raid the, back in the early 90s, raid the hundreds and hundreds of the health food stores, and they're trying to demonize it.

01:08:34.000 And it's very, very serious.

01:08:36.000 So we'll talk about that first, and then we'll kind of move in to some of the other things that the general and his wife have been working on.

01:08:45.000 So first off, doctor, it's good to have you on.

01:08:49.000 And general, it's good to have you on.

01:08:50.000 Well, thank you.

01:08:51.000 First off, doctor, tell us a little bit about yourself, Dr. LeBeau, and LeBeau, and then we'll get into Mr. Stubblebine's history, just so listeners know who we've got on.

01:09:05.000 Well, I'm a physician.

01:09:06.000 I've been practicing drug-free, natural medicine for better than 35 years.

01:09:12.000 I was graduated from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine with an MD degree in 1970.

01:09:20.000 I was trained in psychiatry, child, adolescent, adult psychiatry and throughout my entire career I have been asking non-allopathic, non-conventional medicine questions that all have a similar thrust.

01:09:36.000 The thrust is about why.

01:09:38.000 Whereas allopathic medicine only looks at how.

01:09:42.000 How do we suppress this symptom?

01:09:44.000 How do we make this problem go away?

01:09:46.000 I've been asking why does the problem occur and then what's the best way to fix the problem at the causal level?

01:09:54.000 So you're trying to fix the cause instead of treating the symptoms?

01:09:58.000 Precisely!

01:09:59.000 And the best way is never, in my estimation, If you're not dealing with acute or traumatic situations, the best way is never to poison enzyme systems.

01:10:10.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:10:12.000 And that's what every drug does.

01:10:15.000 Well, that's my view on the hospital.

01:10:17.000 When I break a leg or cut a finger off, I go to the hospital.

01:10:20.000 But I don't go to the doctor for anything else.

01:10:24.000 Certainly not.

01:10:24.000 Not if you want to be healthy.

01:10:28.000 Doctors are not trained in health.

01:10:30.000 They're trained in illness.

01:10:31.000 And they are therefore part of the illness industry.

01:10:34.000 And they are not only destroying our economy, they are killing our population, most of them unwittingly.

01:10:41.000 So when I look at health, I look at clean, unadulterated food, and I look at nutrients, vitamins, minerals in supply to allow people to develop abundant health.

01:10:55.000 And the more toxic our world is, the higher the doses of the nutrients that we need.

01:11:02.000 Which is run by and which serves the purposes of the five big elements in our world.

01:11:10.000 That's Big Pharma, Big Chema, Big Agribiz, Big Biotechna, and Big Medica.

01:11:16.000 Codex would like to have healthy people disappear because they're bad customers and to be able to do anything it wants to the food supply and take away nutrients Domestically and internationally.

01:11:31.000 Now Doctor, at the same time, I want to go over some of the history of Codex Alimentarius, what we're facing. 0.56

01:11:37.000 Because a lot of people, even though I've read the documents, I've seen the laws they're trying to pass in Europe and here, some of the laws they have passed in Europe, the general public is still in denial, the people I talk to, oh they're not going to ban or restrict my vitamins, you're crazy!

01:11:49.000 Even when this is happening, so I want to go over that with you.

01:11:53.000 Then we're also going to shift gears later into some other subjects, but both of you can speak to this.

01:11:58.000 General, please tell us about your history and some of the things we'll be discussing today as well, because we're really honored to have you on.

01:12:04.000 Both of you are kind of Renaissance individuals.

01:12:08.000 You're involved in so much, I don't even know where to start.

01:12:11.000 Well, I started out as an Army brat, so I was actually in the Army from the day I was born.

01:12:21.000 I graduated from West Point Military Academy in 1952.

01:12:25.000 I've commanded at every level from second lieutenant all the way up to major general.

01:12:32.000 My last assignments as a general officer, I had the intelligence center in school down at Fort Huachuca, so I've actually been a school marm, which was a fascinating assignment.

01:12:45.000 I then was the Commanding General of the Electronic Research and Development Command, so I had seven different Army R&D labs, so I've done quite a bit of work in the research and development world.

01:13:00.000 And then my last assignment had all of the strategic intelligence forces in the Army.

01:13:09.000 These are the Army strategic intelligence forces around the world.

01:13:13.000 So I've got a very wide, very diffuse set of experiences and actually loved all of them.

01:13:32.000 Absolutely, and I just want to give people a hint of what's coming up later.

01:13:36.000 Remote viewing, you are recognized as the father of what is known as remote viewing.

01:13:40.000 Can you tell us how far you can go today and how much you can discuss?

01:13:45.000 Well, I'm not sure whether I'm the father, maybe the uncle-in-law, anyway.

01:13:53.000 Well, you certainly brought it into the Army.

01:13:55.000 I have been -- I had the resources.

01:14:03.000 I was the boss, I guess is what you say, of the Army's remote viewing resources when I had INSCOM.

01:14:14.000 And, you know, a lot of people think, is it real?

01:14:18.000 And the answer is, yeah.

01:14:20.000 The answer is, it is very real.

01:14:22.000 And it is very usable and very workable.

01:14:28.000 It takes training, it takes skill, it takes careful management, but it works.

01:14:34.000 I want to get into that, because it's funny, a book was written about me, and I've tried to be friendly about it, but the thing is a work of fiction.

01:14:42.000 I don't know if you know this, but Ronson wrote Them, and I'm like three chapters of it, and my movie's even being made about it by Jack Black.

01:14:50.000 And I contacted Jack Black and said, fine, I'm glad you're making a movie about it, but just please know, a lot of this stuff in here is not true.

01:14:57.000 I mean, John Ronson's got me cowering in the bushes afraid of vampires, literally, folks.

01:15:02.000 The guy is just, I'm not going to even give him any attention.

01:15:05.000 I don't want to get too much into that today, but I can give you a chance to set the record straight if you'd like, because I don't think you'll find many people that have been in the same crosshairs as you, General.

01:15:18.000 I can tell you what, I have never killed a goat with my mind.

01:15:23.000 No, I haven't walked through a wall either.

01:15:30.000 There are certainly some extensions of the process in describing it, I think, for sensationalism.

01:15:41.000 You know, when it first came out and I first learned about it, the impulse was to sue somebody and I finally said, I'm not going to give them The opportunity to get the publicity.

01:15:53.000 I'm just not going to go there.

01:15:54.000 Well I know John, he followed me around for about a year off and on and then he acts real friendly and then in the final equation I still want to like the guy.

01:16:03.000 I mean I can't knock him that bad.

01:16:05.000 There's going to be a movie made about me because of it.

01:16:07.000 It's just it's not going to be... I mean he calls it satire so I think he thinks he can get away with it but people don't read that stuff as satire.

01:16:15.000 No they don't.

01:16:17.000 Well, just very quickly Alex, we didn't know that we knew John Ronson because the person that Bert and I spoke to, primarily Bert, presented himself under a totally different name as a BBC videographer making a documentary and much to our surprise we later discovered that that person turned out to have been Ronson with a cameraman who wasn't apparently

01:16:45.000 recording anything and a fake name and fake ID and so on.

01:16:49.000 So we're not real high on his stock right now.

01:16:53.000 No, I understand.

01:16:54.000 I've tried to be diplomatic about it.

01:16:56.000 I could say a lot more.

01:16:57.000 Let's just say this.

01:16:58.000 There is a lot of fiction in what he writes.

01:17:01.000 And then he does not.

01:17:03.000 Sorry.

01:17:04.000 I just don't want to give it any more traction.

01:17:08.000 Hey, we're done, sir.

01:17:09.000 It's just, I mean, it needed to be brought up because people asked.

01:17:12.000 Well, we're going to break here in just a moment.

01:17:15.000 Let's get into Codex Alimentarius, and great to tell when we get back, and then we really appreciate your time.

01:17:20.000 It's very gracious, and I want to spend a lot of time on the military and, you know, some of the things you developed, and this is a real treat to have both of you on.

01:17:28.000 We're about to break here in a minute, but Doctor, would you like to begin getting into the history?

01:17:33.000 Codex Alimentarius came out of the fertile mind of a convicted Nazi war criminal after the Nuremberg War Tribunal.

01:17:41.000 The head manager of IG Farben, which your readers and listeners probably understand the nature of pretty well.

01:17:48.000 It was the German war machine, the industrial side of it.

01:17:50.000 Fritz Termier, small T-E-R, capital M-E-E-R, was sitting in jail, and he said, well, that didn't work.

01:17:57.000 What do we do next?

01:17:58.000 And he said, I've got it.

01:18:00.000 We'll take over the world's food supply.

01:18:02.000 So when he got out four years later in 1952 and went back to work at the president level of Bayer Pharmaceutical, which had been part of IG Farben, the same people who make Bayer Aspirin, of course, He went to his friends at the UN and he said, Hey, I've got a cool idea.

01:18:21.000 We can take over the world's food supply.

01:18:23.000 And they said, Yeah, let's do that.

01:18:26.000 Ten years later, the Codex Alimentarius Commission was born and it began setting standards, regulations and guidelines Dr. Labo, we've got a break.

01:18:41.000 General Stubblebine, we've got a break.

01:18:44.000 Husband and wife, very interesting folks.

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01:23:04.000 She joins us with her husband, Albert M. Stubblebine.

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01:23:15.000 government programs that we've seen in modern history.

01:23:18.000 We're talking about Codex Alimentarius.

01:23:20.000 Please continue, Doctor, and pop in any time, General, you want to add something.

01:23:24.000 Got it.

01:23:25.000 Okay, thank you, Alex.

01:23:27.000 So, we were saying that the Codex Alimentarius Commission was founded in 1963 and well in 62 and began work in 63 and it was pretty irrelevant.

01:23:40.000 Nobody was paying any attention to it because everything that it was setting up all the standards guidelines and regulations were voluntary and therefore irrelevant until 1994.

01:23:51.000 That's the year when Codex acquired teeth.

01:23:55.000 The teeth are the trade sanctions that the World Trade Organization can impose if a country is found through its dispute resolution process to be setting up, quote, a barrier to trade.

01:24:08.000 Now, what that means is that since the World Trade Organization accepted Codex as a standard for dispute resolution around food, and notice I said a standard, not the standard.

01:24:23.000 That turns out to be immensely important to your survival and to the survival of your children and loved ones.

01:24:30.000 So Codex was accepted as a standard for the dispute resolution process around food by the World Trade Organization and at that point Codex became relevant and Codex noticed how relevant it became and started telling countries around the world that in order to protect themselves

01:24:50.000 from the World Trade Organization sanctions, which are so big that they can sell the economy of even the biggest country, let alone the vulnerable economies of countries like Ethiopia and Peru, that they had to adopt the Codex standards not only for international trade, which is what Codex governs, but also for their own domestic Laws.

01:25:16.000 In other words, every country in the world has been told that because Codex is a good thing, because it prevents World Trade Organization sanctions from being imposed, and because it is science-based, remember that phrase, science-based, Every country in the world needs to adopt all of the Codex Regulation standards and guidelines.

01:25:40.000 And Doctor, let me just go back for a second because every few months I see an article where the US or England or Japan is sanctioned a billion, five billion dollars or more in some cases over the smallest quote trade infraction and the World Trade Organization admittedly and now has more authority over our trade than Congress.

01:25:59.000 Exactly and so if Every country in the world fears those billion, two billion, five billion, half a billion trade sanctions.

01:26:08.000 They're going to run to protect their economies and let the devil take behind her most. 1.00

01:26:14.000 Well, it turns out that since 1994, every single Codex decision, and I want to tell you that there are standards on the production of frog legs, apricot preserves, Meat, meat products, sardines, milk, everything that can legally go into your mouth, dietary supplements included, but drugs excluded.

01:26:40.000 Codex governs everything that can legally go into your mouth with the exception of drugs.

01:26:45.000 Since then, every single one of the standards, guidelines, and regulations promulgated by Codex that I have read, and I have read thousands upon thousands upon thousands of pages of this This horror before my husband and I closed our practice of natural medicine in order to take this on.

01:27:06.000 Every single one of those decisions has been based on what is good for the five bigs.

01:27:13.000 Big Pharma, Big Biotechna, Big Chema, Big Agribiz, and Big Medica.

01:27:19.000 They are not based on health.

01:27:21.000 They are not based on consumer protection.

01:27:23.000 For instance, Codex has already determined that all food must be irradiated.

01:27:30.000 All animals used for the production of food must be treated with antibiotics.

01:27:34.000 All animals used for the production of food must be treated with growth hormones.

01:27:39.000 And must be tagged, too.

01:27:40.000 This is all part of phasing out the small farms.

01:27:42.000 Must be tagged.

01:27:43.000 And the next thing that happens, of course, is that people get tagged.

01:27:48.000 Organic standards have been horribly degraded.

01:27:51.000 Horribly degraded.

01:27:52.000 And since the food has to be irradiated before it can be shipped internationally.

01:27:58.000 What's organic about it anyway?

01:28:00.000 Now, nutrients.

01:28:02.000 A lot of people who have heard of Codex, and because of the blackout in the major media, that's not a lot of people.

01:28:09.000 But of the people who have heard of Codex, they think that it only pertains to vitamins and mineral supplements.

01:28:15.000 That's absolutely untrue.

01:28:17.000 It's a total control grid, as the U.N.

01:28:18.000 has said, at the World U.N.

01:28:21.000 Food Summit they had in Beijing in 1996.

01:28:23.000 They will use food as a weapon.

01:28:26.000 Exactly.

01:28:27.000 Well, we've got to break, doctor.

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01:32:15.000 We'll get to a few before this segment ends and I hope to keep our guests into the next hour because there's so much to talk about.

01:32:21.000 Albert N. Stubblebine III, Major General, U.S.

01:32:24.000 Army, retired.

01:32:26.000 We could talk to him for 10 hours.

01:32:27.000 There's so much.

01:32:28.000 And his wife, incredibly informed, with a special view into all this, is a medical doctor who's dealt with this.

01:32:37.000 And she's, of course, joining us right now, Reema Labow.

01:32:43.000 So, Doctor and General, please continue with the information that you were just discussing getting in to the Codex Alimentarius and what it controls and how it's now being basically put into force.

01:32:55.000 Well, Alex, you said that the Beijing Conference, UN Conference, said that food would be used as a weapon.

01:33:03.000 No, no, no.

01:33:03.000 Food is being used as a weapon.

01:33:06.000 Healthy people can think and have the energy and vitality to raise their voices And if necessary, their fists and say, no, I don't think so.

01:33:14.000 People who are not fluoridated into willing compliance can say, no, I don't think so, and take the necessary steps to enforce that.

01:33:26.000 Dr. Lebo, I've got to stop you.

01:33:26.000 People who are ill, people who are dependent upon drugs because all natural means of health promotion and health protection have been eliminated.

01:33:35.000 Dr. Labo, I've got to stop you.

01:33:37.000 Dr. Labo, I've got to stop you. 0.94

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01:33:54.000 I've read some of your writings.

01:33:55.000 You're totally up to speed, cutting edge on everything.

01:33:58.000 No wonder you guys got a hit piece written on you.

01:34:00.000 It's really refreshing.

01:34:01.000 General, can you jump in for a second before the doctor continues?

01:34:04.000 General Stubblebine, and please give us your views on Codex.

01:34:08.000 The answer is yes, I can jump in.

01:34:11.000 First and foremost, and I think one of the critical pieces that everybody's got to understand is, because everybody asks, well, why haven't I seen this on the major media?

01:34:22.000 Why isn't it on television?

01:34:23.000 The answer is, very deliberately, it has been kept underneath the radar screen.

01:34:28.000 Well, it's like NSA spying has been going on for 50 years, and the stuff we're hearing about today has been going on for 20, and people are just now shocked to hear about it.

01:34:36.000 Yeah, and it's being kept very, very Close to the chest.

01:34:42.000 And so no one believes, when you start talking about it, no one believes that it's true because they haven't seen it on their television set or they haven't seen it in a headline in a paper anywhere.

01:34:54.000 And the answer is they haven't seen it because it's deliberately been kept out of there.

01:34:58.000 And then there's another piece, too, and, Alex, you're familiar with this on a personal level as well as a professional one, too, and that is distraction through vilification.

01:35:07.000 You say terrible, terrible things about people which have no chance of being true, but you say them often enough and loud enough, and suddenly Bert and I are, and this is what has been said over and over about us by folks who don't want our message out there.

01:35:24.000 We're CIA agents.

01:35:25.000 We're agents of the Rockefellers. 0.60

01:35:27.000 We're witches.

01:35:28.000 We're druids.

01:35:29.000 We're this.

01:35:30.000 We're that.

01:35:30.000 We're terrible, terrible people.

01:35:32.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

01:35:33.000 We're part of the controlled opposition.

01:35:34.000 We're part of the controlled opposition, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:35:38.000 The fact is, we're right.

01:35:40.000 And that's what makes us dangerous.

01:35:42.000 And when you're right, and you're dangerous, then you have to be neutralized through propaganda, spin, lies, and so on.

01:35:50.000 Well, Dr. Labo, I mean, I agree with you, but let me just add something else to this.

01:35:55.000 You brought up fluoridation.

01:35:56.000 It was Edward L. Bernays who convinced women to smoke cigarettes. 0.87

01:35:59.000 He made bacon popular on the breakfast table.

01:36:02.000 He worked for the Pentagon.

01:36:03.000 He worked for three presidents.

01:36:04.000 He's the guy who engineered the PR to get the sodium and stannous fluoride in the water.

01:36:10.000 Now even head doctors and governments are banning it.

01:36:14.000 Since you brought that up, give us, as a medical doctor, your take and your view, and then of course you as well, General, on the fluoridation of the water.

01:36:22.000 Fluoridation, as I assume your listeners know well from your work, Alex, was introduced into the Soviet gulags because it made prisoners compliant.

01:36:34.000 It was introduced into the water supply of the Nazi concentration camps because it made prisoners compliant.

01:36:41.000 And that's even in mainstream history books.

01:36:44.000 Absolutely.

01:36:45.000 This is not fought over and questioned.

01:36:49.000 Fluoridation was introduced into the United States water supply through junk science, the same kind of junk science that Codex relies upon to convince countries to do terrible things to their population's health.

01:37:03.000 In order to, the fluoride was introduced in order to do two things.

01:37:08.000 One was provide a very economical disposal system for wildly toxic fluoride salts, which would otherwise be very expensive to dispose of in line with the OSHA requirements for toxic disposal.

01:37:24.000 And two, to provide shall we say complicit, docile people.

01:37:31.000 It does not prevent tooth decay.

01:37:33.000 It does not prevent osteoporosis.

01:37:36.000 Quite the contrary.

01:37:37.000 It's a systemic poison.

01:37:39.000 And if you're drinking fluoridated water, then either you're uninformed, which you have something that you can do about it.

01:37:49.000 Well, Nobel Prize winners, medical doctors have gone public and said it causes all sorts of serious health problems.

01:37:55.000 I go to the, you know, Baby's USA store and it's fluoride for your children, fluoridated water.

01:38:01.000 Give this to your children.

01:38:02.000 Your child needs this type of fluoride.

01:38:05.000 We've gone from the smartest country, most educated and richest country, to now major studies show over two-thirds of young people, 18 to 24, And in some cases even higher than that, can't find Iraq, can't find India. 0.98

01:38:17.000 We've gone from being the smartest to the dumbest.

01:38:19.000 Doctor, do you believe that's directly linked, not just to the educational standards, but also to the fluoridation? 0.82

01:38:25.000 I believe it's partly the fluoridation, it's partly the wild, insane drugging of our children with deadly and neurologically damaging, permanently neurologically damaging drugs for make-believe diagnosis.

01:38:42.000 It's partly due to the hydrogenated fats which make the cell membranes of the nervous system rigid instead of flexible so your brain doesn't work.

01:38:52.000 It's due to the degraded food supply with artificial colors, flavors, and preservatives which are all toxins.

01:38:59.000 It's due in large measure to the neurotoxic effects of the pesticides Let me add something, Alex, because we're talking in terms of deliberately doing this.

01:39:09.000 Let me give you a quote from Mao Zedong.

01:39:10.000 of our teeth so we have a poisoned population no wonder they can't think let me let me add something Alex because we're talking in terms of deliberately doing this let me give you a quote from Mao Zedong everybody knows who Mao was he says teaches it says that it teaches that war demands deception it

01:39:37.000 It is often possible by adopting all kinds of measures of deception, listen to that, deception, to drive the enemy into the plight of making erroneous judgments and taking erroneous actions, thus depriving him of his superiority and initiative.

01:39:55.000 Now that comes out of the mouth of Mao Zedong.

01:39:59.000 And there is a war against health.

01:40:02.000 Just as there is a war against our children.

01:40:05.000 It involves vaccination.

01:40:07.000 It involves degraded food.

01:40:09.000 It involves many, many, many aspects, including fluoridation.

01:40:13.000 Unfortunately, it's not a war on a single front.

01:40:16.000 Dr. Lebeau, can you give us the websites for your organizations?

01:40:20.000 With pleasure.

01:40:21.000 First of all, the information on Codex and the steps that you need to take, which I'd like to talk about, because we have power and we've just gained a significant beachhead.

01:40:32.000 in Codex and we need your help.

01:40:34.000 The first site is www.healthfreedomusa.org www.healthfreedomusa.org and you will find there something that says sign petition.

01:40:51.000 This is a legal assault on the United States Codex position.

01:40:55.000 Please join the citizens petition.

01:40:58.000 You'll find there DVD.

01:41:02.000 Buy it.

01:41:03.000 Show it to your friends.

01:41:03.000 Watch it.

01:41:05.000 You'll find the e-book.

01:41:06.000 Send it to your congressman.

01:41:07.000 Send it to your congressman.

01:41:09.000 You'll find the Codex e-book.

01:41:10.000 That's the same document that General Stubblebine and I presented to Ministers of Health and Chairman of National Codex Committees during our month-long trip to Africa earlier this year in which we said to them, you do not have to stand by and watch your people die.

01:41:26.000 You have a choice.

01:41:27.000 Codex is not inevitable.

01:41:29.000 Codex does not Well, the good news is, and again we have links to your websites, both of them, up on InfoWars.com.

01:41:38.000 Right now, they're in the guest section on the main page, so anybody that misses those can go to InfoWars.com.

01:41:43.000 And when the General says, and when you say, Doctor, This is premeditated.

01:41:47.000 We have their own documents.

01:41:49.000 We have their own battle plan.

01:41:51.000 And you're right, it's not coming.

01:41:52.000 They're using food as a weapon.

01:41:55.000 This has been done by design.

01:41:57.000 You can see the health effects in our society.

01:41:59.000 Diabetes skyrocketing several thousand percent.

01:42:02.000 Every other type of disease and illness exploding.

01:42:06.000 It is an epidemic.

01:42:07.000 It is a pan-demic.

01:42:08.000 What is their final goal if they're able to implement Codex here domestically, general and doctor?

01:42:15.000 I don't know.

01:42:17.000 You see, I make a strong distinction, Alex, between what I know and what I believe.

01:42:22.000 And nobody invited me to their secret deliberations and said... So what do you believe?

01:42:27.000 What do you believe?

01:42:28.000 What I believe is that sick people are profitable.

01:42:32.000 Let's start with that.

01:42:33.000 Healthy people are bad customers for the pharmaceutical industry and for the medical industry.

01:42:39.000 So we start with that.

01:42:41.000 Then we come to what the World Health Organization, a former chairperson, and what many people in the high echelons of world organizations that control the economies of the planet have said.

01:42:58.000 And that includes the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the United Nations itself and so on, Henry Kissinger, they have talked about the need for population reduction.

01:43:10.000 If that is part of the intent of the, shall we say, the controllers of these activities, we're on a great course.

01:43:20.000 Let me just add one thing.

01:43:23.000 Did you hear about Professor Pianca at UT who said that we need to reduce 90% and needs to start now?

01:43:31.000 And a lot of other professors said no, we need all humans to die.

01:43:34.000 General, a doctor, can both of you comment on that?

01:43:37.000 Well, I want to start on that Alex.

01:43:40.000 I'm a psychiatrist and I know crazy when I see it.

01:43:44.000 That's what we're looking at.

01:43:46.000 Profound craziness. 0.73

01:43:48.000 When we watched him on MSNBC, that's what the whole staff here at the office on a big screen TV, we were watching him and we said, that guy is completely loon.

01:43:56.000 If I saw him in downtown Austin, I would have thought he got out of the Texas State Hospital.

01:44:02.000 Indeed, indeed.

01:44:03.000 Now, you know, the fact that somebody's on TV, the fact that somebody has a professor, a professorial appointment, or a political office doesn't mean that they're not crazy.

01:44:12.000 We have far too much confirmation of that sad fact.

01:44:15.000 This is profoundly crazy, but I will tell you that The route that we're heading with Codex, with the over-medication, and you know pharmaceutical medications are the leading cause of death in this country.

01:44:31.000 Yes.

01:44:32.000 With the toxification of our environment and the toxification of everything we put into our mouth unless it's organic, and the degradation of the organic standards, if you're not very careful you become part of The herd that's on the route to extinction.

01:44:48.000 Well, Doctor, I agree, but the key point here is that Dr. Pianka and Dr. Singer and others are supported by the highest levels of academia and government research and are seen as heroes.

01:44:58.000 So even though their poster boys are lunatics whose eyes literally roll around their head on national TV, it still shows that the establishment is firmly behind this.

01:45:08.000 General, can I get a comment on you? 0.72

01:45:09.000 Yeah.

01:45:11.000 Let me turn that thing upside down, Alex.

01:45:15.000 I like to look at things, the glass half-full, not half-empty.

01:45:21.000 And I have no intention of dying.

01:45:23.000 Period.

01:45:24.000 And, I believe that we've set out a strategy that allows us to move and, oh by the way, it's based on the principles of war which come out of Sun Tzu way back in the 3rd or 4th century BC, we're not quite sure when, but we have set out a strategy It's based on principles of war.

01:45:46.000 They're used in any time you go to war.

01:45:50.000 And we intend, A, not to die, and B, not to let anybody else die.

01:45:58.000 So, that's where we're headed, and we have a strategy, I believe, that can achieve those goals.

01:46:05.000 General, you just came to the point I wanted to get to later.

01:46:08.000 The elite openly say, and Joy, the owner of Sun Microsystems, co-chair, has been at these meetings and wrote about it, warning people, That the elite know they have life extension technologies, but they don't want to give it to six and a half billion people, and they admit currently to extend life if you start early to 150, 200 years old, if there hasn't been too much cellular damage, and they don't want the general public to have it.

01:46:31.000 That's why they want to create a world government, then exterminate 80 to 95 percent of us, and then only give the small few the life extension system. 0.72

01:46:39.000 So I don't know if with the current technologies it can be put out I don't know, but I have no intention of going for at least another 150.

01:46:44.000 they're getting very close so they can extend you out to 150.

01:46:47.000 We know 50, 60 years from now they'll have stuff to extend you out a thousand.

01:46:51.000 Is that what you're talking about?

01:46:53.000 I don't know, but I have no intention of going for at least another 150 because I'm not finished doing everything I need to do here on this planet.

01:47:02.000 How old are you right now, General?

01:47:04.000 76.

01:47:05.000 Well, you certainly look younger than 76, but...

01:47:08.000 That's because of what I do for him.

01:47:11.000 That's exactly right.

01:47:13.000 And what I do for them starts with clean, unadulterated food, and it starts with high-potency nutrients and supplements, and it starts with the sensible things that need to be done.

01:47:25.000 Just very quickly, in 1994, the General developed what was supposed to be terminal cancer, and I said, I don't think so.

01:47:33.000 And we did the sensible, natural things that everybody has accessible to them, And lo and behold, rather than terminal cancer, he's got terminal health.

01:47:44.000 Doctor, let me stop you again. 0.99

01:47:45.000 I've got to keep adding points here.

01:47:47.000 Four years ago, the head of Monsanto said, this was even in National Geographic, that they want to infect all the seed crops with their genetic-engineered system so then people don't have a choice and quote, have to eat genetic-engineered cross-species creations.

01:48:03.000 Monsanto said that by 2020 they will control all food worldwide.

01:48:07.000 One of the things that we have done, the Natural Solutions Foundation, and we'd like you to join us, and by the way this is an expensive battle, one of the things that we've done is we've taken this information to Africa and we will be going back to Africa to meet with the Ministers of Health and the Codex Committee people and the consumer advocates and then we will be going to India, to China, to Thailand, to Cambodia, to Laos, and so on.

01:48:36.000 Telling them what the government level people are not telling them.

01:48:40.000 By the way, what does Africa know? 0.93

01:48:42.000 Doctor, what does Africa in general, what do they know that we don't know?

01:48:45.000 Even when they're starving to death, they will let GMO food rot at the docks.

01:48:50.000 They will not eat it.

01:48:52.000 You know, Robert Mugabe is not anybody's favorite champion of democracy and personal freedom, as our press tells us often.

01:49:02.000 But Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe opened the World Health Organization, UN Food and Agriculture Organization, IMS World Bank meeting in Harare, the capital of Zimbabwe, which Bert and I visited last January, by saying

01:49:24.000 You people from the developed countries and from the international organizations are trying to kill Africa with genetically modified foods. 0.60

01:49:33.000 Now Robert Mugabe seems to get a lot wrong from my point of view, but he got that one right.

01:49:38.000 And that is the game.

01:49:39.000 So the people of Africa know that this is what's in store for them, and they welcomed us once they were convinced that we weren't selling anything and didn't want to be high-priced consultants.

01:49:50.000 We've got to go to break.

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01:52:56.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. - What is this?

01:53:02.000 We're going to have a caller free-for-all.

01:53:03.000 We're going to get into remote viewing that General Stubblebine brought into the Army.

01:53:08.000 This guy had run basically everything in the Army at every level throughout his career.

01:53:13.000 And, you know, to have him on here talking about fluoridation, toxic foods, genetic engineering, and then life extension technologies.

01:53:21.000 I know for a fact that Bill Joy and others have written about how they go to elite meetings and the elites say, this is in Wired Magazine, people.

01:53:29.000 That we can't have access to it.

01:53:30.000 They're going to use a control grid to get rid of us so they get to have it.

01:53:34.000 So they are the progenitors of the future.

01:53:36.000 And they try to seize control of human destiny.

01:53:40.000 And I don't know how far the life extension can go, but I know that there are advanced technologies being suppressed.

01:53:46.000 And I know it's very, very serious.

01:53:49.000 And it's interesting to have our guest with us.

01:53:51.000 It's riveting.

01:53:51.000 Interesting isn't enough of a comment.

01:53:54.000 But we're going to go to Bobby and Jamie and Matt here because they specifically want to talk to our guest.

01:53:59.000 And Ron and Chad and others can be part of the free-for-all later.

01:54:02.000 We're going to get more into Codex in the next hour.

01:54:04.000 We're going to get into some of the General's other activities at the Pentagon and heading up whole military operations of the highest security.

01:54:13.000 Pretty wild stuff.

01:54:14.000 But right now, let's go to Bobby in California.

01:54:17.000 Bobby, you're on with the Doctor and the General.

01:54:19.000 Go ahead, Bobby.

01:54:20.000 Hi, I wanted to talk to the doctor about if there were about hemp seed being like the most complete food that there is and do you know, yeah, just about hemp seed?

01:54:34.000 I know a lot about hemp seed and I think hemp is a great food as long as it's not heated and the oil that's pressed from it is not degraded through the production techniques.

01:54:47.000 Hemp is a terrific food.

01:54:49.000 And so it's very, very important to make it, among other terrific foods available.

01:54:55.000 And of course, the propaganda against it is pretty ferocious.

01:55:00.000 So yes, I do know about hemp seed, and I think it's great stuff.

01:55:04.000 Yes, it's actually the, yeah, it survived like a DEA ruling against it a couple years ago.

01:55:10.000 And it's actually the closest to fish oil that there is in the plant kingdom.

01:55:16.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

01:55:18.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jamie in Kentucky.

01:55:21.000 Jamie, go ahead.

01:55:22.000 Yes, my question is for the doctor.

01:55:27.000 Yes, I would like to know, are there any, like, cures Any known cures for cancer?

01:55:35.000 Oh, there are many, many, many known cures for cancer.

01:55:38.000 It just depends whom you ask.

01:55:40.000 What about Laetrile?

01:55:44.000 Laetrile, or what's sometimes called Vitamin B17, has many uses.

01:55:49.000 There are people for whom Laetrile is the answer for regaining health, and there are people for whom Laetrile is not the answer.

01:55:57.000 Thank you, Jamie.

01:55:59.000 I mean, isn't it a cocktail of things that you need?

01:56:04.000 Well, cancer is not a disease of an organ.

01:56:07.000 Cancer is a disease of the immune system.

01:56:09.000 It's about immune failure.

01:56:11.000 And if you just try to suppress the cancer without building up the immune system so that it could do what it was supposed to do in the first place, which is surveil the development of cancer cells and destroy those cancer cells, Then you really haven't done anything except stave the problem off for a little while.

01:56:27.000 Now I know you do the natural route.

01:56:29.000 What about every month there's a new cure and then it gets shelved?

01:56:32.000 Like the final scene of Indiana Jones and the Raiders of Lost Ark, that warehouse full of secrets, but you know they take the blood from healthy mice that doesn't have cancer, put it in with the same blood type, and it goes and kills the cancer.

01:56:44.000 I mean, I guess that's just because it's healthy blood cells and white blood cells that are able to go take out what happened.

01:56:52.000 Why not just allow the body to produce its own good blood cells? 0.77

01:56:55.000 Precisely.

01:56:56.000 Why not allow the body to be healthy, free of toxins, and doing what it needs to do in the first place?

01:57:03.000 Well, that seems to me the best route to go.

01:57:05.000 But as I say, it's not a do-it-yourself activity.

01:57:08.000 So I suggest you contact doctors who know about this.

01:57:12.000 And the best site for that is www.aaem.com.

01:57:19.000 A-A-E-M. 1.00

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01:57:23.000 We'll be right back with the doctor and with the general.

01:57:26.000 You'll want to stay with us.

01:57:28.000 There's so much more we'll be discussing in the third hour and your calls as well.

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01:57:38.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:11.000 Dr. Rima Lebeau is our guest.

01:58:15.000 And of course, we're joined by her husband, Albert N. Stubblebine III, Major General, U.S.

01:58:20.000 Army, retired.

01:58:22.000 We've worked at so many levels of the military.

01:58:25.000 I've got a lot of fascinating information we'll be talking about in this hour.

01:58:30.000 I want to go ahead and cycle through some more of the calls in this little five-minute segment.

01:58:33.000 Then we'll come back in the next long segment and get more into Codex Alimentarius that will control the food, restrict it all, force us to basically eat all these poisons.

01:58:43.000 All these toxins.

01:58:45.000 We're talking about a lot of really serious issues today.

01:58:47.000 We'll also get into remote viewing that, of course, General Stubblebine pioneered in the military.

01:58:52.000 And again, I'm not really an expert on this, folks.

01:58:55.000 I'm not saying it's real or it isn't real.

01:58:56.000 He says it is.

01:58:57.000 The point is, he's a highly respected person with a lot of letters behind his name out here talking about this and everything else they say I know to be true about the fluoridation of the water and the New World Order and the rest of it.

01:59:08.000 But continuing, Doctor and General, Let's go ahead and talk to Matt in New York.

01:59:13.000 Matt, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:59:14.000 Hi, how are you?

01:59:15.000 Good, go ahead.

01:59:16.000 Uh, General.

01:59:17.000 Yo! 1.00

01:59:18.000 How are you?

01:59:20.000 I'm fine, how are you?

01:59:21.000 I'm doing pretty good.

01:59:22.000 I have a question about how in-depth you are into the psionics program.

01:59:28.000 Go ahead, caller.

01:59:29.000 The psionics program, how far... were you actually doing the remote viewing yourself, or were you just observing the kids?

01:59:38.000 No, I was the boss.

01:59:39.000 You were the boss of it?

01:59:40.000 I was the boss.

01:59:41.000 You know, as the head of the Intelligence and Security Command, you know, I essentially had, for the period of time that I was in command, responsibility for all of the actions and responsibilities that the command had.

02:00:01.000 One of those was responsible for the remote viewing of the Army segment.

02:00:09.000 And so, essentially, I was the boss man.

02:00:12.000 Were you a remote viewer?

02:00:14.000 No.

02:00:16.000 But... What happened to the remote viewers?

02:00:18.000 What?

02:00:19.000 What happened to them?

02:00:21.000 Yes.

02:00:22.000 Well, there was a very interesting... Let me give you just a very quick vignette.

02:00:27.000 There was a television program a number of years ago, and we don't watch television, but at the time it was I was curious about the ball scores, so I came in, I turned on the television set, thinking I was going to get the ball scores, and instead, I got this program on remote viewing.

02:00:49.000 With Larry King Live.

02:00:51.000 General, I actually practice psionics.

02:00:55.000 Well, sir, he's trying to answer your questions.

02:00:57.000 Let him answer it, okay?

02:00:59.000 Yeah, well, the program was an interview of a number of people that I knew who were involved in the program.

02:01:07.000 There were some new faces.

02:01:09.000 But the last person that was being interviewed was Gates, the ex-director of CIA.

02:01:17.000 And the first time around, everything was pretty normal.

02:01:22.000 But coming around the second time, the second interview for each of them, when it got to Gates, he said, well, we've spent a million dollars a year for ten years on this program, and it's too expensive.

02:01:35.000 It doesn't work.

02:01:36.000 It only, grab your seatbelt, I hope you got it fastened, it only is successful 85% of the time.

02:01:45.000 Only 85%.

02:01:47.000 Now, I ask you, Matt.

02:01:48.000 Can you get through college with an 85, with a B plus average?

02:01:48.000 Yes?

02:01:54.000 Um, I'm not really into... Can you do that?

02:01:56.000 No, no, I don't think I could.

02:01:58.000 Yes, if you get through college with a 70%...

02:02:03.000 I'm not sure, but I... Thank you for the call, sir.

02:02:06.000 I really appreciate it.

02:02:08.000 Yes, the answer is yes, you get through college with a B.S.

02:02:11.000 I've got to add one more thing.

02:02:12.000 When I was in Vietnam, as the Intelligence Officer of the 25th Infantry Division, I felt I was lucky if I had 5% information.

02:02:22.000 And he's talking about 85.

02:02:23.000 I'd have been in hog heaven with 85%.

02:02:26.000 Does that answer your question?

02:02:29.000 It certainly does.

02:02:30.000 We'll be right back.

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02:05:53.000 You know, I'm not what you call a conspiracy theorist.

02:05:57.000 I only go off the facts, the things I can prove, but I also try to bring an interesting guest, really intelligent, informed guest who are experts and leaders in their field, and we're certainly doing that today.

02:06:07.000 But I've got to say, three or four times a year, my ISDN line, it's old technology, we use it because it's dedicated and good for doing remote radio broadcasts.

02:06:18.000 The network's up in Minnesota, Minneapolis-St.

02:06:20.000 Paul, with the satellite uplinks and the board operators and all the folks.

02:06:25.000 This only happens when I'm exposing, oh, torture in Iraq with General Janis Karpinski going public about how they tried to set her up for it and how they're carrying it out.

02:06:34.000 The line cuts out.

02:06:36.000 Or if I'm talking about Dyncor and the Chicago Tribune and child kidnapping rings, the ISDN line cuts out.

02:06:41.000 I always know it's really serious when it does that.

02:06:44.000 And our guests haven't been able to tell it because they've been dialing me on backup ISDN lines, but I've been cutting out during this broadcast, and they've been redialing me.

02:06:51.000 You just haven't been hearing it because they've been talking on air.

02:06:54.000 And it just happened going out to break a minute ago.

02:06:57.000 Only three or four times a year, and it's always guests like this.

02:07:01.000 General, have you heard of this type of stuff happening before when you're on radio shows?

02:07:04.000 We must be doing something right, Alex.

02:07:06.000 Yes, this has happened before.

02:07:08.000 And it's in a whole wide range of places and different kinds of broadcasts.

02:07:15.000 Sometimes it's streaming, sometimes it's live transmission.

02:07:21.000 Yes, indeed.

02:07:22.000 This has happened before.

02:07:23.000 And that tells us that we're doing something right.

02:07:25.000 General, do you have any comments on this?

02:07:27.000 Same thing.

02:07:28.000 We're doing something right, because otherwise no one would pay any attention to us.

02:07:31.000 I'll tell you, our cell phone has begun dialing the people in our address book on its own, which means they're doing, not the people, but whoever's messing with our communication system is doing something wrong.

02:07:43.000 Get it right, guys.

02:07:44.000 Well, you've got exactly, they're going to surveil you and get it right.

02:07:47.000 Of course, I remember G. Gordon Letty told me personally one time when I was in an event with him.

02:07:52.000 He goes, Alex, I bet you come in and pick up your phone and there's nobody there.

02:07:55.000 He goes, I bet you've heard people talking before.

02:07:57.000 And he said that's when they're kind of screwing it up.

02:08:00.000 They can use the phones in your house as a bug.

02:08:03.000 But at the same time, General, most people I talk to in government are now on our side.

02:08:07.000 They weren't ten years ago.

02:08:09.000 Have you seen, General, a major shift towards people in the government, in the military, waking up to what's happening?

02:08:16.000 Well, certainly there were, I think the number is now six General Officers, all retired, who have decided that it was time to speak up about Iraq.

02:08:29.000 And I suspect that there will be more following them.

02:08:33.000 I can't believe that more won't come.

02:08:35.000 Well, I'm not asking you to put your... I'm sorry, General, go ahead.

02:08:38.000 They're not going to do it until they retire.

02:08:40.000 Well, I'm not asking you to get into some big new controversy, but what's your whole view of the Iraq War and what's happening?

02:08:46.000 Well, let me go back to the principles of war, Alex, because if you're going to go to war, You must pay attention to the principles, and again, I said earlier that they go back all the way to the 3rd or 4th century B.C.

02:09:01.000 with a guy named Sun Tzu who wrote The Art of War.

02:09:05.000 Every military has a set of principles of war.

02:09:08.000 They vary from country to country, but every military has a principle of war.

02:09:13.000 It's called doctrine.

02:09:15.000 Doctrine.

02:09:15.000 Well, the first principle in the U.S.

02:09:19.000 is called objective.

02:09:21.000 Okay?

02:09:21.000 What is your objective?

02:09:24.000 Right after 9-11, it was clearly stated that our objective was to get Bin Laden. 0.70

02:09:30.000 Okay?

02:09:31.000 Get Bin Laden. 0.76

02:09:32.000 He was the culprit. 1.00

02:09:34.000 We needed to get his ass and fling him in jail. 1.00

02:09:38.000 Alright? 1.00

02:09:39.000 Where is Bin Laden?

02:09:42.000 I just asked the question, where is he?

02:09:44.000 Most people, most people will tell you it's sort of Afghanistan.

02:09:50.000 So, what are we doing in Iraq?

02:09:53.000 If our objective was Bin Laden, he certainly wasn't in Iraq.

02:10:00.000 So did we start off with the wrong step?

02:10:05.000 General, the PNAC documents, as you know well, clearly state that Saddam wasn't a threat, but would be used as a pretext to secure the oil and use Iraq as a projection point of power into Iran and Syria.

02:10:20.000 And now they're doing that in Pentagon documents from 1983, from 2000.

02:10:24.000 They're now all public.

02:10:26.000 Israeli documents say they actually want civil war, they want to Balkanize, they want to break Well, let me say it slightly differently.

02:10:32.000 After we had kind of given up the objective of Bin Laden, we then focused on weapons of mass destruction. 0.98

02:10:36.000 is the objective is to break that place up and to bring it back to third world or even Stone Age standards.

02:10:42.000 Do you agree with that statement?

02:10:44.000 Well, let me say it slightly differently.

02:10:49.000 After we had kind of given up the objective of bin Laden, we then focused on weapons of mass destruction. 0.98

02:10:56.000 Okay?

02:10:57.000 Now, let me go back to World War or go back to the Cold War.

02:11:02.000 We held the Soviet Union with all of their nukes, all of their nukes, and they had not one, not two, they were already developed, they were pointed at us, and we held the Soviet Union at bay with an objective that says, we want to prevent World War III. 0.91

02:11:22.000 And we held them without war.

02:11:27.000 War should be the last option, not the first. 0.94

02:11:32.000 General, what do you think of Bush saying that they may hit up to 200 sites in Iraq with many nukes?

02:11:40.000 If we... Well, first of all, I find that a very difficult statement.

02:11:46.000 I cannot believe that the United States would start a nuke war.

02:11:51.000 I just have great difficulty with us starting a nuke war.

02:11:57.000 Although the use of depleted uranium armaments has in fact created a nuclear aggression against the people of the Middle East.

02:12:08.000 With a multi-billion year half-life, and that stuff, radiation detectors, I'm sure you guys know this, have picked it up in England and the U.S., the exact isotope from DU, and it's the equivalent in weight to 44,000 Hiroshima and A-bombs.

02:12:21.000 Exactly.

02:12:23.000 I know.

02:12:24.000 Sir, I mean, you are at the highest level, a multi-star general, heading up entire programs.

02:12:29.000 How do you think the elite has gotten to the point where their children are breathing this uranium too? 0.89

02:12:34.000 Why are they doing this?

02:12:36.000 I can't imagine.

02:12:37.000 Alex, that just is beyond me.

02:12:40.000 I look at... I always look at... I'll tell you what.

02:12:44.000 All you have to do, Alex, is deliver one body back to one mother, and you understand war is the last resort, not the first.

02:12:55.000 Just deliver one body back to a mother, and you understand it totally internal, and you will never, ever forget it. 0.95

02:13:04.000 Period.

02:13:05.000 And now we take Look, Codex, again, it is not unrelated as you know and as your listeners know.

02:13:11.000 This is another war against us.

02:13:13.000 It's as insane as the war that is killing us with our own depleted uranium.

02:13:19.000 That is, the war that is killing our soldiers with anthrax vaccines that have squalene.

02:13:25.000 And oh, by the way, the new nonsense vaccine against the new nonsense pandemic, Bravian flu, will have squalene.

02:13:36.000 Squalene is the primary cause of Gulf War Syndrome.

02:13:39.000 Injected squalene.

02:13:41.000 We are now testing... Now, you're a medical doctor.

02:13:43.000 Explain to people why squalene's bad.

02:13:45.000 We know mercury's bad. 0.97

02:13:46.000 We know the genetic garbage, the monkey pus and vomit, as laymen call it, in the vaccines is very dangerous. 0.98

02:13:52.000 It's full of cancer viruses. 0.99

02:13:54.000 That's been confirmed.

02:13:55.000 Not just the polio injections or the oral, but why is squalene bad?

02:14:01.000 If you rub squalene on your skin, it makes your skin nice and soft.

02:14:05.000 If you eat squalene, that's perfectly okay.

02:14:08.000 But if you inject squalene, the impact is to rev up the immune system to make antibodies to whatever it is that you've injected it along with, which is why it's called an adjuvant, which is an activating agent.

02:14:21.000 And there's no way to turn off the immune system.

02:14:25.000 We've all heard by now of autoimmune diseases.

02:14:28.000 When the body attacks the body, In fact, a lot of groups who take all these new vaccines die in like two weeks of these, they call it accelerated autoimmune disorders.

02:14:38.000 Precisely, and those who don't die in two weeks die over a long, painful, and highly profitable to the pharmaceutical and medical industry, disability.

02:14:48.000 What about all these new diseases women have? 1.00

02:14:50.000 I mean, I know young women who can't get out of bed, their joints are all swollen up. 1.00

02:14:55.000 What's going on?

02:14:56.000 Toxicity.

02:14:57.000 Toxicity, toxicity and the vaccines.

02:15:00.000 Let me point this out.

02:15:01.000 If you're putting poison into your body through your mouth or through a vaccination, you are poisoned.

02:15:08.000 If you are poisoned, the enzyme systems of your body cannot function properly.

02:15:13.000 You will become ill with a variety of different diseases that have a wide spectrum of names.

02:15:18.000 and you are suffering from environmental toxicity.

02:15:22.000 So it knocks the balance out of whack?

02:15:25.000 Precisely.

02:15:26.000 It knocks your ability to protect yourself and to have all your enzymes operate properly.

02:15:32.000 Enzymes are the stuff of life at any moment.

02:15:34.000 Now, they admit that irradiating food, and already most of the stuff in schools and most of the stuff at McDonald's has been irradiated.

02:15:39.000 Now it's thousands of foods, tuna fish.

02:15:42.000 I mean, they're just doing it.

02:15:44.000 And they admit that it kills the ring structures, it kills the enzymes, and that it is just deadly to eat that.

02:15:50.000 And now they can feed you rotten food that was rotten.

02:15:53.000 It still has got the dead bacteria with the toxins they produced in their excretia.

02:15:59.000 Precisely, it also has high levels of free radicals which cause diabetes, cancer, cardiovascular disease, macular degeneration, etc, etc.

02:16:10.000 And the only protection that you have against free radicals is to take high levels of antioxidants.

02:16:16.000 But ah!

02:16:17.000 Codex has ratified the vitamin and mineral guideline last July 4th, ironically, 2005.

02:16:27.000 With the jubilation of the United States Codex point of contact at Scarborough And Bert and I were there to see this atrocity, and what it does is say that any effective level of a nutrient, for instance, a nutrient that changes anything in your body, is now considered an adverse event associated with that nutrient.

02:16:53.000 The World Health Organization... They're labeling it as a drug!

02:16:56.000 Well, no.

02:16:57.000 You see, many people say, oh, well, vitamins and minerals will just be available as drugs with a prescription.

02:17:03.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:17:04.000 They will be illegal substances in the way that heroin is illegal.

02:17:09.000 You cannot write a prescription... By the way, I've read the documents.

02:17:12.000 SWAT teams will be raiding your home.

02:17:15.000 You'll be going to prison camps for having vitamin C. A woman who is a pharmacist... 1.00

02:17:20.000 A woman who is a pharmacist in France.

02:17:22.000 Now, in Europe, you buy your... Stay there.

02:17:24.000 We'll come back and finish up with Codex Alimentarius in the next little five-minute segment, tell folks about the DVD you guys offer.

02:17:24.000 We've got a break again.

02:17:30.000 Then I want to shift gears and take calls and get into some of the things the General did while heading up high-level military army operations.

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02:21:53.000 We're talking to Major General U.S.

02:21:57.000 Army Retired Albert N. Stubblebine III, and we're also talking to his wife, who is a medical doctor, and we're honored to have both of them with us.

02:22:08.000 Doctor, going back to you and Again, we've got links to your website, healthfreedomusa.org, and several others up on Infowars.com.

02:22:18.000 I've read the rulings in Europe.

02:22:20.000 You were talking about a French doctor before we went to break.

02:22:23.000 People are getting arrested.

02:22:24.000 They're trying to, quote, make vitamin C be like a prescription, but it's adulterated and only down at very low levels, having, you know, megadoses that Linus Pauling and other Nobel Prize winners have said you absolutely need, those will be restricted.

02:22:38.000 All of this, when vitamin C is a basic building block, you don't have it, your collagen falls apart and you get scurvy.

02:22:45.000 And then we see all the propaganda, endless newscasts, oh there's evil stuff you can buy at the drug store, I mean at the health food store, we've got to ban it, we've got to control it.

02:22:53.000 When they can't even find a few deaths a year from over-the-counter vitamins and nutrients and phytonutrients and other things, But there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands, almost 300,000 a year they admit, just from adverse drug reactions from prescription drugs.

02:23:09.000 So kind of show up what's going on with this Codex Alimentarius.

02:23:13.000 You guys are traveling the world, even meeting with world leaders trying to beat this.

02:23:17.000 Tell us about it.

02:23:19.000 We are traveling with world leaders. 0.98

02:23:21.000 We are saying to them, you know that Codex will kill your people.

02:23:24.000 Well, here is the legal answer to protect yourself from the trade sanctions that are used to enforce Codex.

02:23:31.000 And we present them with the e-book that you can buy at www.healthfreedomusa.org.

02:23:39.000 Same document that has been presented.

02:23:41.000 Huge amount of information.

02:23:42.000 You can also become informed on Codex Codex's history and what you can do to keep the United States from becoming the pharmaceutical realm of death that it's working up to by looking at Nutricide, the DVD.

02:23:58.000 That's also available on our website.

02:24:01.000 You can sign the citizen's petition.

02:24:02.000 Now, recently, as a matter of fact, last week, Codex Was dealt a stunning blow by the actions of the South African delegate whom we have been working with and supporting out of our international program.

02:24:19.000 And I don't have time to explain it to you, but if we can generate the kind of support here in the United States and abroad that we need to, we can turn Codex around.

02:24:31.000 I think in five years the multinational corporations will kill it, but that's okay with me.

02:24:35.000 The point is, if we have your support, and that's financial support, it's information dissemination support, sign up for the newsletter and spread it to everyone you know, if we have your

02:24:48.000 Your active support in terms of telling Congress what you want them to do to protect you and if we have you as a growing body of informed consumers who are not going to die because it's handy and useful for the multinational corporation masters to have you die and have your children suffer and die too.

02:25:10.000 If we have this body of support here and internationally We can win this battle.

02:25:17.000 If we don't have the support, we won't win.

02:25:20.000 Dr. Labo, we also have good victories where areas of Europe and Latin America are refusing genetically engineered crops being brought in.

02:25:27.000 So there is good news happening.

02:25:29.000 But in the last minute or two of this segment, we're going to come back and talk to the General some more and take some calls.

02:25:34.000 And you as well, I hope you'll ride shotgun with us, Doctor, through the rest of the broadcast that we've got left.

02:25:40.000 Under Codex, we're looking from what I've read, what I've seen, and this is admitted, they're saying this, Where everything is genetically modified, everything is full of poisons and preservatives, where you cannot get organic.

02:25:52.000 I mean, they're already changing the laws here where something can be 75% genetically engineered and they call it organic.

02:25:59.000 This is a nightmare system.

02:26:01.000 Can you add any more to what life under full implementation of Codex Alimentarius will be like?

02:26:06.000 Life under full implementation of Codex Alimentarius will be sickness and death.

02:26:11.000 The World Health Organization has identified the non-communicable diseases of undernutrition.

02:26:17.000 They're cancer, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, stroke, etc.

02:26:21.000 Those are the diseases that Codex guarantees to you and your children.

02:26:25.000 If that's what you want, don't do anything.

02:26:27.000 If that's not what you want, take action.

02:26:30.000 I agree with you and I would just add this little addendum or caveat to this.

02:26:35.000 Well, I would agree with what you said. 0.80

02:26:37.000 saying they want to kill 85 to 95% of us.

02:26:39.000 And what I've seen with plagues and even engineered weapons in the past, large portions of humanity are immune or semi-immune and can fight this off.

02:26:47.000 They have to weaken us before they launch some type of global pandemic.

02:26:51.000 General?

02:26:53.000 Well, I would agree with what you said.

02:26:58.000 In terms of the fact that we're moving in the direction where everybody is going to be sick.

02:27:06.000 If you don't take care of your immune system, you're not going to survive.

02:27:10.000 You must be able to take care of your immune system.

02:27:12.000 You must be.

02:27:13.000 And oh, by the way, in order to do that, you've got to get up and, like the dog that's in the down stay, you've got to get up, get that dog up, and get him barking.

02:27:23.000 You've got to take the actions.

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02:27:33.000 Absolutely, we'll be right back.

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02:30:58.000 Army, retired, has said, I know to be backed up from the research and verifiable, non-debatable facts I've seen, and of course his wife, is just another amazing individual, Dr. Lebow, and we're about to go to some of your phone calls here in a few minutes, but at the same time,

02:31:19.000 There's been a lot of demonization of these two, both by the mainstream media and the alternative media, and you've got to ask why, and answer this information that many of us have even picked up on.

02:31:29.000 But I mean, some of it is really wild.

02:31:32.000 Some of the things I can't prove, some of the things I'm not informed on.

02:31:35.000 I mean, I'm a meat and potatoes guy when it comes to information.

02:31:39.000 I just go off the information that's out there that we know about.

02:31:42.000 So much of what you think is secret is really public if you know where to look.

02:31:46.000 But General Stubblebine Continuing talking to you, go through just for a few minutes some of the other mainline programs you ran.

02:31:56.000 I mean, you were a multi-star general and you worked at every level of intelligence, you name it, and then you really did pioneer the remote viewing, what you'd call Army psychic program.

02:32:09.000 And I have seen the transcript from CNN of when the CIA director was on Larry King Live many years ago and said, well, the program only had 85% success.

02:32:15.000 Well, that's insane success.

02:32:19.000 The military will do a program and if it gets 10-15% success, just keep doing it and then you build up the success rate and war game it out in the live laboratory of the world.

02:32:31.000 I know that many of our leaders believe in this stuff and are involved in it.

02:32:34.000 Of course, I'm a Christian myself.

02:32:36.000 Many people believe it's occultic.

02:32:37.000 Certainly, some of that is probably involved.

02:32:40.000 But I want to get your whole view on this and what you can tell us that is declassified versus some of the mainstream international TV programs they've done where you say they falsely reported that That you and others tried to kill goats with your mind or tried to walk through walls and all of this because I see you on the board of a major submarine company.

02:33:01.000 You're one of the founders of Aegis with one of the big security slash merc organizations.

02:33:06.000 I don't mean to use that term but I've used it in the past so I'll just be honest here and use it in front of you now.

02:33:11.000 I mean you're involved in anything and everything.

02:33:12.000 It's all serious.

02:33:13.000 And then I run into this point of where you're involved in something that, I mean, obviously in research you've got to try everything, but you say it works and it's real.

02:33:21.000 So tell us about that program, what you can tell us, and then tell us how you know it's real and what you think this is.

02:33:27.000 Let me start with one of the other pieces about the GOATs because I think we need to put that to bed.

02:33:38.000 When I became the commanding general of the Intelligence and Security Command, we were at a point where the forces were being drawn down and resources getting shorter and requirements were still going up.

02:33:53.000 And so, I looked at that problem and I said, one of the solutions is to have people work longer.

02:34:01.000 Another solution is to have people work better.

02:34:06.000 With that in mind, I put together a task force, which I call my High Performance Task Force.

02:34:11.000 I took one of my brigadiers, put him in charge, and told him to go out and find all of the technologies around the world that allow people to work better, not longer.

02:34:20.000 Okay?

02:34:22.000 And he took about 60 days, and we came back, and I was like a kid in a candy store with all these technologies.

02:34:29.000 Some of them you had to throw away immediately because they had dealings with SAC.

02:34:36.000 kind of thing, and you can't have religion or sect in the military as a driving force.

02:34:44.000 You've got to stay with the technology.

02:34:46.000 One of those technologies that appeared was this business about staring at goats and exploding the heart.

02:34:57.000 Well, my job was intelligence.

02:35:01.000 My job was to find out what the Soviets, primarily the Soviets, were doing at that time because it was in the Cold War.

02:35:09.000 I was...

02:35:10.000 And they were doing this?

02:35:12.000 Well, I did not have the responsibility for killing.

02:35:16.000 My responsibility was intelligence.

02:35:19.000 So I took that technology and I took it to the people who were responsible for doing that.

02:35:24.000 I gave it to them and said, here, this is yours.

02:35:27.000 If it works, fine.

02:35:28.000 If it doesn't, that's okay, too.

02:35:29.000 So what you were doing was trying to duplicate what the Chai Khans and the Russians were doing? 0.85

02:35:34.000 Yeah, but, you know, killing was not my responsibility.

02:35:38.000 So I took it to the people who were responsible for training soldiers to go to battle and be the infantry and the special forces.

02:35:45.000 And that was Fort Bragg?

02:35:47.000 Yeah, and I gave it to them and told them, here, this is yours.

02:35:51.000 Then I turned my back and I saw, you know, I didn't do anything with it after that.

02:35:55.000 So, that was my total experience.

02:35:58.000 And they were already using goats at Fort Bragg for testing battlefield medicine, correct?

02:36:03.000 Well, I don't know.

02:36:04.000 You know, my job, again, I'm back to my job, I had more than I could handle with just getting all of the intelligence that I needed.

02:36:12.000 Well, what was the result?

02:36:13.000 Can you tell us, were they able to kill the goats?

02:36:17.000 I told you, you know, the answer is I don't know.

02:36:21.000 Do I believe that it could work?

02:36:23.000 Yeah, I could find a place in my mind that says that it probably will work.

02:36:28.000 Why?

02:36:29.000 Because I know that if you expand the mind and allow the mind to do all of the things that it can do, you can in fact do remote viewing.

02:36:41.000 You can in fact, wait a minute, you can in fact break a board With your hand, without any major force.

02:36:49.000 You can, in fact, bend a spoon, you know, like Uri Geller.

02:36:55.000 Okay?

02:36:55.000 You can do all of those things with your mind.

02:36:57.000 General, let's get into what you were able to do then with the remote viewing program.

02:37:01.000 I mean, you say it works.

02:37:03.000 How does it work?

02:37:03.000 What do you think it is?

02:37:05.000 Well, let me give you a thought.

02:37:08.000 And from there, let the viewers, or the listeners, go from there.

02:37:13.000 If you take a point, we describe a point today as a dot.

02:37:19.000 Okay?

02:37:19.000 It does not have any dimension.

02:37:21.000 It's just a dot.

02:37:23.000 Okay?

02:37:24.000 Let's think of that as, instead of a dot, let us think of time as a space.

02:37:31.000 It has an X direction, it has a Y direction, and it has a Z dimension.

02:37:37.000 Okay?

02:37:38.000 Well, if my dot, or my space, is Got 1 inch by 1 inch by 1 inch.

02:37:45.000 I can be anywhere in that 1 inch cube simultaneously.

02:37:51.000 Extend that.

02:37:51.000 Instead of 1 inch, make it 1 mile.

02:37:55.000 1 mile by 1 mile by 1 mile.

02:37:57.000 I now have a cubic mile.

02:37:59.000 I can be anywhere in that space at a single time.

02:38:05.000 Don't use a mile.

02:38:06.000 Use 10,000 miles.

02:38:09.000 Or 50,000 miles.

02:38:10.000 But this is theoretical.

02:38:12.000 Can you tell us specifically, as much as you can without anything that's classified, what the success was?

02:38:18.000 What your people verifiably were able to do?

02:38:21.000 No, I cannot tell you that because I believe that that number is still classified.

02:38:25.000 However, I can say that it is better than what Gates said.

02:38:30.000 Better than 85%?

02:38:32.000 I mean, hypothetically... Better.

02:38:35.000 I mean, hypothetically, how does remote viewing work?

02:38:38.000 You go into that space that I just described, and you can be anywhere in it.

02:38:43.000 Let me add something.

02:38:46.000 Information can be linear, in which case any point contains only the information of that point, or it can be fractal, which means that it's holographic, and all points can contain all information simultaneously.

02:39:03.000 The technique of remote viewing Can be understood, I think, best by saying you tap into the fractal nature of information, the holographic nature, so that wherever you go with your mind You can tap into all information that exists, past, present, and disturbingly, future.

02:39:24.000 Well, Doctor, let me just say this because I never get into this stuff on the air, I never talk about it, I'm a pretty orthodox Christian, but I have had dreams where I've gotten up and written them down where somebody I don't know in a blue and green striped polo shirt assaults me And then all of a sudden, as I walk around the corner five months later, there's that very person and they try to mug me.

02:39:47.000 And you wake up with sweat when you have a dream like this.

02:39:49.000 You write it down and it happens.

02:39:52.000 I had all the data, the info about 9-11.

02:39:54.000 So most of it was just my subconscious mind being able to, you know, at the computer to war game it out.

02:40:00.000 But I went on air and said they're going to attack, they're going to attack the World Trade Center.

02:40:04.000 This guy's, you know, an operative of the Globalist.

02:40:06.000 They're going to do this.

02:40:07.000 This is what's going to happen.

02:40:08.000 I mean, I did that on record.

02:40:10.000 So you're my viewer?

02:40:11.000 Doesn't prophecy...

02:40:13.000 exist in the Bible, Alex?

02:40:15.000 Doesn't the Judeo-Christian tradition admit of prophecy?

02:40:19.000 And isn't prophecy a way of tapping into information that hasn't yet precipitated into event?

02:40:24.000 Well, I'm just saying, and I don't want to get off into it, I've never said this on air, and now I'm really going to get attacked, but my whole life this has been happening to me, and... But it's nothing... It happens to everybody, exactly!

02:40:36.000 It's part of the human context.

02:40:39.000 Let me say one thing quickly, Alex.

02:40:40.000 You talked about our founding ages.

02:40:43.000 Aegis was a project which was approved but which was never funded and which never came into being.

02:40:51.000 It was a private, civilian, homeland security project.

02:40:56.000 So somebody took your idea and ran with it?

02:40:59.000 So something else happened to it later then?

02:41:01.000 Somebody else may have taken that name.

02:41:04.000 But we are not involved with Merck in any way.

02:41:07.000 We are not involved with any corporation in any way.

02:41:10.000 So they took that name.

02:41:13.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:41:15.000 We are absolutely not involved with anything, and we're not involved with Aegis, because although it was approved, it was never funded.

02:41:22.000 So it never went anywhere, other than an idea, which was a great idea, incidentally, but it never went anywhere.

02:41:28.000 Well, I've got to get your guys back on.

02:41:30.000 Let me go back to the prophecy stuff. 0.98

02:41:36.000 You were not doing remote viewing when you saw that bugger. 0.98

02:41:40.000 You were doing remote dreaming. 0.99

02:41:44.000 Okay?

02:41:44.000 But it was the same process, exactly the same process.

02:41:49.000 You were not in your bed.

02:41:52.000 You were in some space external to that.

02:41:55.000 And again, go to my diagram of time, X, Y, and Z. And in this case, I don't know how far away you were from the time when you dreamed it until the time that it occurred.

02:42:06.000 But whatever that distance is, make that X, Y, and Z, and you were in that cube simultaneously with the event.

02:42:13.000 And so you can be there.

02:42:15.000 So I look at that and I say, so what's the big deal?

02:42:18.000 You know, it works.

02:42:20.000 And it works better than 85%.

02:42:21.000 Here's an example.

02:42:23.000 My grandmother had been sick for a while, but she wasn't anywhere near death at the time, and I hadn't seen her in months, and I called my dad.

02:42:30.000 And I said, we've got to go to Fairfield to see your mom, and we got in the car on our way there, and then they called us on the cell phone, and we hadn't even told them we were coming, and said she just died.

02:42:42.000 So actually, it's just amazing.

02:42:44.000 But that, I mean, like the Aborigines in Australia, and this is totally documented, they'll come out of an opal or diamond mine and say, put me on a plane, my mother just died, or my father's sick, and they're never wrong. 1.00

02:42:55.000 That's right.

02:42:56.000 That's exactly right, and oh by the way, you just said it, they're never wrong.

02:43:01.000 That's part of the human capacity.

02:43:04.000 Now, by the way, if you poison the body and the brain, that capacity to know and to know well is diminished, and that's part of what we will lose.

02:43:14.000 The human capacity to be healthy, to defend itself, and to know is being poisoned.

02:43:20.000 The human capacity to reproduce is being poisoned, and that's how Codex is carrying out its war.

02:43:28.000 General, do you think the elite are threatened by the general population not being poisoned and having their full discernment?

02:43:34.000 I have not a clue.

02:43:37.000 Alex, I try not to go there and the reason is that I've got to stay focused on what our objective is.

02:43:45.000 I went back and explained how important the objective is.

02:43:48.000 Our objective is health, protecting our health and our health freedom.

02:43:52.000 There are so many things that we could get diverted to do and play with that would be very exciting.

02:44:00.000 Can't afford it.

02:44:01.000 We've got to use all of our energy to ensure that our health and our health freedoms are absolutely protected, which is precisely why we're after a codex.

02:44:14.000 That's where our focus is.

02:44:16.000 So, I don't know what their agenda is.

02:44:20.000 Sure, sure, but I mean, back to remote viewing, to me, you know, knowing things or sensing things or seeing things in the future, I mean, that's something that's never been controllable, though, and I couldn't even imagine trying to control something like that.

02:44:35.000 When the Soviets attempted to use their remote viewers, they called them something else, their psychic spies, for evil purposes.

02:44:45.000 By the time these people were able to do this, they were also able to connect to a larger agenda of the universe, the cosmos, and they said no. 0.78

02:44:55.000 And the Soviets said, well, we'll kill you if you don't.

02:44:57.000 And they said, okay, it doesn't matter.

02:44:59.000 The Soviets were extraordinarily frustrated because they could get their people to a certain level and no higher because when they became especially adroit at remote viewing or psychic spying, They also clicked into what the universe is all about and they understood that there was a moral that was far deeper than their personal life.

02:45:20.000 But in my experience, doctor, and you're a medical doctor talking about all this, my experience is there are evil people, there are people who love evil and who do want to direct, you know, I mean, even their tactile activities, you know, here in the real world, who are using it.

02:45:37.000 I mean, certainly there are evil people, if this stuff exists, that are out there using it, aren't there?

02:45:41.000 But my experience is that, you know, let me just give you an example.

02:45:45.000 When people got sort of greedy and tried to use it to predict the stock market, you know, the ups and downs of the commodity markets and so on, that they really didn't, actually they failed.

02:46:00.000 And why?

02:46:00.000 Because greed got in the way of right.

02:46:05.000 When you use it for the right purposes and the right intentionality, I believe that it will work very well and very, you know, completely.

02:46:15.000 When you get greedy, when you get evil, when you go in a different direction, then I think it tends to fall off in its effectiveness.

02:46:25.000 Well, that may be because you are working with something that's good.

02:46:27.000 I mean, there's a dark side to everything, and I think that, in fact, I know there are people tapping into the dark side, and I know that that's there.

02:46:34.000 You just may not have looked at it.

02:46:36.000 I haven't.

02:46:37.000 I think I've seen it.

02:46:38.000 I'm too goddamn busy doing what I gotta do and staying on track and so I haven't got time for the dark side.

02:46:45.000 You know, it's like I'm gonna live to be another 176 years.

02:46:49.000 Alex, may I say, I'm sitting at my computer and I've gotten a number of emails from your listeners, your active listeners, who have asked for the website of doctors who know how to treat things naturally, including cancer.

02:47:02.000 May I give the website again?

02:47:03.000 Sure, give it out again.

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02:47:30.000 Sure, let me jam in a quick call to take a few more after the break.

02:47:32.000 Let's talk to Rodney in Texas.

02:47:34.000 Rodney, thanks for holding.

02:47:35.000 Go ahead.

02:47:35.000 Then we'll go to Bob and Ron and everybody else.

02:47:37.000 Go ahead, Rodney.

02:47:38.000 Thank you, Alex, for this mini-symposium with Dr. Leibo and the General.

02:47:44.000 It's a pleasure to speak with you two people.

02:47:47.000 Dr. Label, I heard that Donald Rumsfeld was one of the orchestrators of aspartame being marketed to the American people.

02:47:58.000 It's true.

02:48:00.000 But he made some very interesting remarks when he was confronted with the dangers of aspartame.

02:48:05.000 And Dr. Label, I think I heard you quote his statements, and they were very, very stunning.

02:48:11.000 Would you happen to have that quote?

02:48:14.000 Jim Turner, who is an attorney who has been fighting for consumer rights for his entire career, went toe-to-toe with Donald Rumsfeld and Donald Rumsfeld was not able to get aspartame on the market for 11 years.

02:48:32.000 He told Jim Turner, I don't care how many people it kills, I want it approved.

02:48:38.000 And managed to do so by getting rid of the head of the FDA, getting his new guy.

02:48:42.000 Final segment, Doctor.

02:48:43.000 General, stay with us.

02:48:44.000 Final segment.

02:48:45.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:59.000 I'm going to try to jam three calls in here at the end, and this has been a great interview.

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02:52:39.000 Rodney brought up a good point about Aspartame, and it's on the record that Rumsfeld's behind everything.

02:52:44.000 Nuclear reactors in North Korea, weapons to Saddam, aspartame, just on and on.

02:52:50.000 If it's evil, he's been on the board.

02:52:53.000 Monsanto, genetic engineering, Terminator gene.

02:52:56.000 Talk about a dark magician.

02:52:58.000 He's definitely one.

02:52:59.000 You can look at him, folks.

02:53:00.000 He radiates evil.

02:53:01.000 Real fast, Ron in New York.

02:53:04.000 You're on the air with our guest.

02:53:05.000 Go ahead.

02:53:05.000 Yes, Alex.

02:53:07.000 I don't know how fast I could be with this.

02:53:09.000 I've felt for quite a while, but in any event, regarding the NSA phone, well, phone taps, the harvesting of phone numbers in the tens of millions, The Bush administration has contradicted itself on this.

02:53:26.000 Some of you may remember earlier statements that the administration made.

02:53:31.000 Now the administration is making statements that contradict those.

02:53:36.000 He said yesterday that the wiretaps are lawful.

02:53:40.000 Now, it's important for people to understand that the word lawful is a very specific, legal, esoteric term.

02:53:49.000 Ron, we're almost out of time.

02:53:50.000 You're going to have to call me back tomorrow about this.

02:53:52.000 You can get mad at me if you want, but I just... You're on Saturdays?

02:53:55.000 Well, you know what that means, Monday.

02:53:57.000 Thanks for the call, Ron, okay?

02:53:59.000 I've just got to get these final callers and let our people come in.

02:54:02.000 General, I mean, this wiretapping, Bush saying he's above the law, give us your take on it briefly.

02:54:08.000 Well, I don't believe anybody should be above the law, frankly.

02:54:13.000 And your caller, Ron, was right in the fact that lawful is in the mind of the beholder.

02:54:23.000 And I don't think lawful in this case is used correctly.

02:54:30.000 I think it's very questionable as to what is, in fact, legal in this respect.

02:54:36.000 All right.

02:54:38.000 Do we need to be surveillant and careful?

02:54:43.000 Absolutely, that's what intelligence is all about.

02:54:45.000 If you are after the fact on intelligence, you're no longer an intelligence officer, you're a history buff.

02:54:55.000 Intelligence has got to be in front of the act. 0.99

02:55:00.000 So if you need to get The lawful requirement to bug somebody's phone, then go get the damn authority! 0.99

02:55:12.000 Go get it! 0.97

02:55:13.000 What's wrong with going to the legal department to get it?

02:55:16.000 Because he said, General, he said he wants to set the precedent to do whatever he wants, and that's what's dangerous.

02:55:21.000 That's absolutely dangerous, because that puts the power in the hands.

02:55:26.000 Extend that just a little bit further, and what you have is a dictator.

02:55:31.000 Wrong! 0.86

02:55:32.000 You've got to keep it legal.

02:55:35.000 Period.

02:55:37.000 You know what?

02:55:37.000 I'm sorry to Frank and I'm sorry to everybody that's been holding on.

02:55:41.000 Listeners, it was just too good of an interview and we didn't get to all of you, so forgive me.

02:55:45.000 Call me back on Monday.

02:55:45.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:55:47.000 General Docker, thank you both for joining us.

02:55:49.000 We'll talk to you again in the future.

02:55:51.000 Thanks so much for having us.

02:55:53.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:55:55.000 And all you listeners, have a great day!

02:55:58.000 General, did you enjoy the interview?

02:56:00.000 Yes!

02:56:00.000 Well, I did too.

02:56:01.000 And Doctor, did you have a good time?

02:56:03.000 You bet!

02:56:04.000 www.healthfreedomusa.org Absolutely, I appreciate the call.

02:56:10.000 Wow, we heard a lot of propaganda and demonization of these folks, and I may have even been led into it a few times.

02:56:15.000 It was interesting to get them on and hear what they actually had to say.

02:56:18.000 Pretty interesting.

02:56:19.000 Alright, we'll see you back tonight, 9 to midnight, and back on Monday, 11 to 2.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - May 12, 2006

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