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00:01:49.000 Richard Linkletter joins us on the 11th, coming up early next week, the director of the film.

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00:02:13.000 Well, what is the 11th?

00:02:14.000 I guess that will be on Tuesday.

00:02:20.000 Of course, today is 7-7.

00:02:23.000 7-7, the one year anniversary of the British government carrying out terror attacks in London.

00:02:32.000 They then had another dud attack two weeks later on 7-21.

00:02:41.000 And my new film, Terror Storm, spends I guess about 40 minutes of the just shy of two hours on the London bombing on the ground in London.

00:02:52.000 We were there just a week and a half after 7-7 in the middle of the government operation We were there exposing it, and we have made a new film, Terror Storm, and the centerpiece of the film is 7-7 London bombing.

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00:08:12.000 There's a lot of things that have been happening in the last month that we haven't really focused in on properly.

00:08:30.000 Okay.

00:08:32.000 Of course, today is the anniversary, the one-year anniversary of the British government-sponsored terror, 7-7, in London.

00:08:40.000 We did the most detailed reportage anywhere at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:08:45.000 We happen to have correspondents, of course, in Sheffield and London.

00:08:50.000 And now a lot of people are on record, former MI5 agents, even members of the Parliament, questioning 7-7 and showing that all the evidence points towards it being an inside job.

00:08:59.000 The majority of Brits in polls over 80% believe the government killed Diana.

00:09:03.000 The evidence of that has come out.

00:09:05.000 The majority of Brits in major polls and now even members of Parliament are pointing directly towards Dr. David Kelly being killed.

00:09:12.000 We have a clip from one of their national newscasts that I want to play concerning the murder of Dr. David Kelly where it's openly now being discussed and again it's the same thing on 7-7.

00:09:22.000 That is being exposed.

00:09:24.000 So we've seen governments shift from carrying out actual terror attacks, which they blame on their political enemies and they use as a pretext for setting up ever-widening, expanding police states.

00:09:35.000 We've seen a shift from that now to fear-mongering.

00:09:38.000 Fake terror busts with chemical weapons that turns out to be completely staged, now admitted to be staged, in London a month ago.

00:09:47.000 Days later in Canada, a staged event with a bunch of teenagers with a royal amount of police shipping them thousands of pounds of fertilizer and saying they were planning to blow everything up.

00:09:58.000 Lots of fake videos of terrorists on the news saying they're going to get us. 0.95

00:10:02.000 It's ridiculous. 0.96

00:10:03.000 We saw the situation in Florida a few weeks ago where it is again now even admitted in mainstream news the whole thing was a fraud, a staged sting where the government literally went on the streets and openly recruited, created the supposed terror organization made up of a bunch of low-grade morons, paid them over $50,000 cash, set them up in a warehouse and then videotaped them swearing allegiance to Al Qaeda being led by the FBI informant 0.98

00:10:32.000 It's the same story over and over and over again.

00:10:36.000 And now, fresh on the heels of that, FBI disrupts New York City tunnel plot.

00:10:42.000 Authorities have disrupted planning for foreign terrorists for an attack on the transportation network, including tunnels in the New York City, New Jersey area.

00:10:50.000 Two federal agencies announced Friday.

00:10:52.000 And of course, five months ago in Ohio, they supposedly busted a shell of terrorists that were planning to kill everyone, and it turns out that they were too being led by a member of the U.S.

00:11:03.000 military special forces who was working for the National Security Council, and they staged that entire event.

00:11:10.000 We have disrupted a terrorist network that was In the planning stages of an attack, said a statement released jointly and mid-morning by the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, FBI agents monitoring internet chat rooms used by extremists learned in recent months of a plot to strike a blow at the city's economy by destroying vital transportation networks, an official said earlier.

00:11:33.000 Now there are real nuts and a few real kooks and killers that do shoot their mouths off about carrying out these type of dastardly horrific attacks.

00:11:44.000 But, and we've researched this, we've seen this over and over again, the same signature.

00:11:48.000 Normally it's FBI, CIA, Shin Bet, Mossad, MI6, MI5, German intelligence or private agencies, online, simply writing Al-Qaeda confessions online, posting admissions, posting audio tapes.

00:12:04.000 They're checked out, they're proved to be frauds.

00:12:06.000 The globalists are so sloppy that it always leads back to neocon-owned servers and companies. 0.63

00:12:14.000 Out of Arizona, Texas, New York, New Jersey, did I mention Arkansas?

00:12:22.000 So it's the same thing over and over again. 0.98

00:12:23.000 I mean literally, the government can go on any chat room, any message board, they can say they want to carry out terror attacks, then some other agent from another agency agrees with them, they then go bust, it's always a low-grade moron or someone who's mentally retarded, and claim that they were the main person planning it. 0.93

00:12:42.000 Now several things could be happening here and I don't know which one. 0.82

00:12:46.000 I don't know what the globalists are going to do because I don't think they know what they're going to do.

00:12:50.000 They've got a whole bunch of different simultaneous plans and operations going side-by-side that they can implement either one at a time or all together at the same time.

00:13:02.000 Now again, the globalists can't carry out another 9-11 in the U.S.

00:13:07.000 There's a few things that That will make it look bad if they do.

00:13:11.000 Now, I'm not saying they can't.

00:13:12.000 I'm saying they can't do it without people saying, oh, you took a bunch of our freedoms and set up a police state, and now look, it's your fault.

00:13:22.000 You know, the terrorists were still able to attack us. 0.64

00:13:26.000 Oh, you really screwed up. 0.94

00:13:27.000 You can't keep us safe. 0.90

00:13:29.000 But, if they lead up to, and I've said, a key indicator of major terror attacks in the United States or Western Europe or North America, will be a whole bunch of bust.

00:13:39.000 Oh, we foiled this attack.

00:13:40.000 We foiled this attack.

00:13:42.000 We foiled that attack.

00:13:43.000 We foiled another attack.

00:13:44.000 We're doing everything we can to keep you safe.

00:13:46.000 And then, oh my gosh, one slip past us, there was a...

00:13:49.000 There was a truck bomb, or there was a dirty bomb, or an A-bomb went off, and we think Iran did it, or somebody released a new bio-weapon that came out of left field. 0.77

00:13:58.000 We don't know where it came from, and all the microbiologists that could have identified where it came from, all mysteriously died in the last three years.

00:14:10.000 You see?

00:14:11.000 So, a whole bunch of attacks being foiled is a major indicator that They're now building the story, building the script, that we saved you all these times, our goalies blocked the kick, blocked the soccer ball, blocked the terror attack, over and over and over again, but we can't stop them all and see there were these people that were against the Patriot Act in 600 and something cities and four states have thrown it out.

00:14:40.000 And so they frustrated our operation.

00:14:44.000 They stopped us from being able to save you.

00:14:46.000 And so it's also their fault.

00:14:48.000 It's the people that stopped us from protecting you.

00:14:51.000 It's their fault.

00:14:52.000 And I've heard Michael Savage and many others chortle and laugh that just wait till there's another terror attack.

00:14:58.000 It's going to be all of you's faults out there.

00:15:01.000 It's going to be your fault, those of you that stopped us from setting up the security we needed.

00:15:06.000 And now we're going to have to ban the press criticizing Homeland Security and ban the press criticizing the police state because it's here to keep you safe.

00:15:15.000 And we notice Fox News and Everybody else is beating that drum for a new office of censorship and not allowing criticism of the government and California Deputy Attorney General is going back four years ago what Calhoun saying that anti-war protests should be banned because anti-war protests aid the terrorist.

00:15:35.000 The war is against terrorists and so anti-war protests hurt the war effort hence they help the terrorist.

00:15:44.000 I mean even Even Democrats, when they're in office, are out here pushing this and using this.

00:15:51.000 Or, the globalists could have been basically exposed, which we know they have to a great extent, on 9-11, on 7-7, on Madrid, on a host of other government false flag terror attacks.

00:16:03.000 And so what we could be seeing here is they're simply trying to carry out basically drills.

00:16:11.000 We know that the live drills they've had do create a climate of fear, hysteria, the perception that we're being attacked by terror attacks.

00:16:18.000 Well, these fake terror busts, they serve kind of the medium between drills, which create a climate of fear and the government saving you by taking your rights, And real terror attacks, which have been extremely effective in destroying our republic and delivering us into the hands of the American Union and the New World Order.

00:16:40.000 So I don't know which it is.

00:16:42.000 I don't know if they're carrying out these fake terror raids just to put the image out that they're saving us, they're protecting us, it's a summer of fear leading into the election, this climate of hysteria.

00:16:54.000 To smoke screen all the other corruption and bid rigging and war profiteering and criminal activities that are going on.

00:17:01.000 That's on the good hand.

00:17:03.000 We hope that they've decided to back off carrying out terror attacks in the Western world.

00:17:07.000 We hope that they've backed off that program because they've been penetrated and exposed.

00:17:12.000 But I tend to lean towards, at least currently, Towards the view that this is a prelude, this is an opening salvo, this is setting the table, this is hors d'oeuvres, simply preparing your palates for, oh, we tried to stop it, we stopped a bunch of other events, but we couldn't stop the next big event, and by the way it's your fault because you didn't totally acquiesce to us and roll over like a jellyfish and beg the government to take all of your freedoms.

00:17:44.000 Also, different Globalist programs, different globalist operations conflict with each other logically in the people's minds of the United States, Canada, and Western Europe.

00:17:57.000 From Germany, to France, to England, to Canada, to the US, to New Zealand, to Australia, massive third world populations are being brought in The secret documents have been made public in the BBC where Blair signed secret deals to bring in unlimited Muslims. 1.00

00:18:12.000 But wait a minute!

00:18:13.000 You say you're getting tough on illegal immigration, but you've signed a deal with France to bring in unlimited illegal aliens and then legalize them and put them on welfare on the dole, as it's called. 0.62

00:18:23.000 Same thing here.

00:18:24.000 Wait a minute!

00:18:25.000 We're going to be hit by another terrorist attack!

00:18:28.000 It's almost five years after 9-11, but The government is actually calling for blanket total amnesty and open borders.

00:18:37.000 They tried to sell the lie that the amnesty program was actually a pro-sovereignty, anti-illegal alien move.

00:18:44.000 It's the complete opposite.

00:18:45.000 So the globalists also have that problem.

00:18:48.000 That if they carry out another attack, even more people will say, wait a minute, you left our borders wide open, but you've got TSA-trained Viper teams in Miami, Dallas, and other cities randomly Searching American citizens at shopping malls!

00:19:06.000 You see, what you live under in the airports will soon be on the streets of America.

00:19:11.000 In fact, it's here the FBI said they want checkpoints going into shopping malls.

00:19:15.000 Yeah, leave the gates of the city open, but let's have everyone, you know, basically with their hands up inside their homes.

00:19:22.000 This is what's happened.

00:19:23.000 So, critical crossroads right now.

00:19:28.000 The neocon agenda is sliding backwards, is in flames.

00:19:33.000 They need terror attacks to jumpstart it.

00:19:36.000 But their statisticians, their experts, their theoreticians are telling them it may blow up in their face, literally and figuratively.

00:19:44.000 Too many people are watching.

00:19:45.000 Too many police, mid and low level, are aware of what's really going on.

00:19:49.000 There's too many whistleblowers.

00:19:50.000 They're worried about going public.

00:19:52.000 So, is it really just the summer of fear?

00:19:55.000 Lots of fake terror busts to make us think they're saving us.

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00:24:07.000 Ron Paul is scheduled, popping in sometime in the third hour today.

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00:24:21.000 Tommy Pallotta, the producer, along with, of course, job. - No.

00:24:26.000 George Clooney was one of the other producers.

00:24:28.000 But Tom Ippolato will be joining us, the producer of A Scanner Darkly, coming up in 30 minutes.

00:24:32.000 In the next hour, we have a mother coming on who's having their family property stolen openly for quote, environmental green space. 1.00

00:24:41.000 That's coming up in about 7 minutes.

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00:24:50.000 Who died on 9-11 and he's the leader of one of the major family groups and they're starting to have a lot of questions about 9-11 so he'll be joining us coming up at the bottom of the next hour so about roughly about an hour and five minutes from now so wow how many guests is that today and it's all really important important stuff so you'll want to stay with us for the entire broadcast if you can.

00:25:16.000 Interspersed, I have the news of global warming really being hyped, being pushed, even if you believe in global warming.

00:25:24.000 They're quote, solutions is nothing more than a global tax and a fraud.

00:25:28.000 I want to try to spend some time on that.

00:25:30.000 The mysterious death of Ken Lay as he waited for sentencing up in Colorado.

00:25:35.000 A few days after his death, Colin Powell, having dinner with the Clintons, has to go to the hospital, at the very same hospital, a lot of mysterious Things going on there.

00:25:46.000 Turns out the North Korean missile was aimed at an area off of the Hawaiian Islands.

00:25:52.000 Of course, what over five years ago, a North Korean test missile did hit Alaska, a dummy warhead.

00:26:00.000 That was covered up quickly because you can't be invading Iraq a few years later if you're claiming there's such a threat while there's an actual country run by a madman firing missiles, test missiles, at the United States. 0.81

00:26:14.000 So that's the type of news I have stacked up here in front of me today.

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00:33:05.000 Of course you remember the new London, Connecticut ruling of last year where they ruled that they don't even have to give just compensation.

00:33:19.000 That's the thing the media didn't like to focus on.

00:33:21.000 It was in the local papers that they come in to say a $300,000 to $6,000 house in one of the cases, and they say, we've already condemned it, even though it's a three-story Victorian home on the water.

00:33:31.000 And you're paying on the tax rolls over $300,000.

00:33:34.000 You could clearly sell it for more than that.

00:33:36.000 We're condemning it.

00:33:38.000 We're going to give you $61,000 for it.

00:33:41.000 And by the way, since you fought us in court, we're going to charge you back rent for the five-year fight.

00:33:46.000 So you actually owe us $40,000.

00:33:50.000 So that's what really happened there.

00:33:51.000 And then we have the Western Seafood.

00:33:55.000 There's hundreds of these cases in Freeport, Texas.

00:33:59.000 Set up in 1942.

00:34:01.000 They make over 40 plus million dollars a year profit.

00:34:03.000 That's been on the Houston Chronicle.

00:34:04.000 We had Mr. Gore, three generation owner of it on the air.

00:34:09.000 They're not even trying to give them just compensation.

00:34:12.000 All because the heir of the mobile oil fortune wants it for a yacht club.

00:34:16.000 Folks, I'm not kidding.

00:34:20.000 So this is how it operates.

00:34:21.000 They say a private interest want your land and they're allowed to go lobby.

00:34:24.000 This is in the Supreme Court ruling.

00:34:26.000 They're allowed to go lobby your city council, your county commissioners, your legislature, your state legislature.

00:34:31.000 They are allowed to then take your property if they decide.

00:34:34.000 It makes your locals absolute kings, absolute rulers.

00:34:38.000 This is something out of, you know, Britain 600, 700 years ago.

00:34:42.000 France 500 years ago.

00:34:44.000 I mean this is out of the dark ages.

00:34:46.000 The Renaissance swept this away to a great extent. 0.58

00:34:48.000 A man's home is his castle. 0.98

00:34:49.000 In fact, the Magna Carta 1215 began reversing this.

00:34:53.000 You know, the lowliest pauper is a king in his lowly hovel.

00:34:58.000 The kings and queens cannot enter without permission.

00:35:02.000 That's a paraphrase of one of the famous quotes by a parliamentarian there in London.

00:35:09.000 So this is what we face, and every day I see these, okay?

00:35:12.000 I can't make the whole show about this.

00:35:14.000 Every day I read about this, but here's a particularly egregious case.

00:35:18.000 We're going to go to Clara Halper in just a minute from Piscataway, New Jersey.

00:35:24.000 Family plans protest over eminent domain eviction.

00:35:27.000 Facing eviction from their 75-acre Piscataway farm at 3 p.m.

00:35:32.000 next Monday, the Halper family plans to hold rallies protesting the eminent domain ruling that will force them from their home and businesses.

00:35:40.000 Some people will arrive Saturday and will plan to have rallies on Sunday and Monday afternoon.

00:35:44.000 Senator Clara Halper is on the line with us, wife of Larry Halper, whose family owns the farm.

00:35:50.000 On the corner of South Washington Avenue and Meathers Lane.

00:35:54.000 And some estimates have the land tagged between $20 and $100 plus million dollars.

00:35:59.000 The city is trying to pay them, according to press reports, almost nothing.

00:36:03.000 They won a jury ruling of $18 million.

00:36:07.000 They don't want to sell the family farm and land.

00:36:10.000 There's a business on it.

00:36:11.000 Quote, there'll be people who oppose them at domain laws.

00:36:13.000 We'll have some people speak.

00:36:15.000 As of Wednesday, the rallies had not yet been scheduled.

00:36:18.000 The Halpert family and Piscataway Township have been locked in a bitter dispute since the fall of 1999 over the farm that the township has seized under eminent domain laws for the purpose of open space preservation.

00:36:29.000 But under that, and it's in the news here in front of me, under that it says that the city can then give it or sell it to whoever they want for development.

00:36:39.000 Now, we're going to get to our guest in a moment.

00:36:41.000 For those who don't know, I remember in 98 going to a big quote, smart growth conference in Austin.

00:36:47.000 Michael Dell spoke.

00:36:48.000 The head of Bank of America spoke.

00:36:50.000 Bank One spoke.

00:36:51.000 It was elitists from across the planet.

00:36:53.000 5,000 plus city officials from the U.S.

00:36:56.000 and county officials.

00:36:57.000 They attended.

00:36:58.000 Huge banquet halls.

00:36:59.000 I was there.

00:37:00.000 We shot video.

00:37:01.000 I don't know, dig that old news report out we did and put it on the website.

00:37:05.000 I've got hundreds of those.

00:37:06.000 On PrisonPlanet.tv we should post that.

00:37:08.000 And I even interviewed Michael Dell and others.

00:37:09.000 And they got up, former Dallas Cowboy players are involved in it.

00:37:13.000 And they're all developers up there laughing about how they're going to take everybody's property.

00:37:17.000 They then snatched 15,000 acres from people.

00:37:21.000 First they devalued it saying you couldn't build for five years.

00:37:24.000 Then they gave them pennies on the dollar.

00:37:26.000 Then they took all the restrictions off.

00:37:27.000 They're building luxury five-star hotel golf courses.

00:37:31.000 It's all built now.

00:37:33.000 Huge, ten million dollar houses, lavish country clubs.

00:37:37.000 I mean, the value of the land is millions of dollars per acre in some cases.

00:37:44.000 Millions of dollars!

00:37:45.000 I know farmers and ranchers or personal friends of mine who had 200, 300 acre plots taken and guess how much they were paid per acre?

00:37:52.000 A couple thousand dollars!

00:37:55.000 Absolute premium!

00:37:57.000 Premium!

00:37:58.000 I mean, if you paid $200,000 an acre, you'd be getting a good deal on most of this land.

00:38:03.000 Again, some of it goes for millions now, and the city doles it out to all its buddies.

00:38:08.000 Imagine, the real estate councils and others, all over the country, this is public, they're lobbying for it, they come in, buy off your city council, put in the mayor...

00:38:18.000 Don't let people build on their own land.

00:38:19.000 Drive down the property value so they can say you're not allowed to basically sell it for full value.

00:38:26.000 Then they make a sweetheart deal, eminent domain it, force you to sell it for pennies on the dollar.

00:38:30.000 Pennies on the dollar!

00:38:31.000 Then turn around and take all the restrictions off and build luxury homes, hotels, giant spas, five-star spas.

00:38:38.000 I mean, you ought to see it, folks.

00:38:40.000 The average person can't afford to go out there.

00:38:43.000 This is where I live, okay?

00:38:45.000 Okay, this is what I've witnessed, and now this family is being absolutely raped there in New Jersey, in Piscataway.

00:38:55.000 Clara...

00:38:56.000 Helper, I really appreciate you coming on with us today.

00:39:01.000 Thank you for listening to that rant.

00:39:03.000 The info I just laid out, we've never talked before, you're just joining us on air.

00:39:07.000 The rant I just laid out, does that mirror or is that similar or is it different from what you're dealing with?

00:39:13.000 Oh Alex, it mirrors everything that we're dealing with.

00:39:16.000 All this, we have big developers funding the politicians here in town, all the way up to the state.

00:39:26.000 Politicians, in some cases they're redevelopers themselves.

00:39:32.000 It totally mirrors it.

00:39:34.000 It's horrendous.

00:39:36.000 Now, I want to be clear.

00:39:37.000 They use their sentences for environmental reasons.

00:39:40.000 Nationwide, the biggest landowner is the Nature Conservancy and the Sierra Club and others.

00:39:44.000 They've got all these weird little cult members driving their Volvos, feeling good, feeling loving, pushing for all Absolutely.

00:39:51.000 There's an agreement between the town and the county that allows the township to sell, lease, or donate the land.

00:39:56.000 and luxury hotels and townhouses and high-rises, and you tell the environmentalists this, and they go, you're a liar, they will not face the public facts.

00:40:04.000 But even the newspaper in your town admits they're going to develop it.

00:40:07.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:40:08.000 Right.

00:40:09.000 No, absolutely.

00:40:09.000 There's an agreement between the town and the county that allows the township to sell, lease, or donate the land.

00:40:16.000 We call it, you know, it's a backdoor for redevelopment.

00:40:20.000 That's what, they're taking it under the pretense of open space.

00:40:24.000 The township, at the same time, is building.

00:40:29.000 They've had their foot on the accelerator pedal for ages now.

00:40:33.000 You know, they're just building and building and turning it into a city.

00:40:37.000 So, there's, and they have, I think, it's between a quarter and a third of the town is already in parklands, including, Rutgers is right here.

00:40:46.000 The Ecological Preserve.

00:40:48.000 And they've taken pieces of land out of the Ecological Preserve.

00:40:53.000 Of course they have, that's the plan.

00:40:55.000 And of course people don't remember five years later, they grabbed the land five years later, luxury hotels and NAFTA highways.

00:41:02.000 Tell us, please, about the family history of this land and how this all started and how much it's really worth and what they're trying to give you.

00:41:10.000 Okay, well, my husband's family has owned this land since about 1921.

00:41:17.000 It was a dairy farm.

00:41:18.000 It was a sheep farm, then a dairy farm.

00:41:21.000 We do vegetable farming, and we have also trees and shrubs and pumpkin picking, some agri-entertainment as well, horseback riding, mulch, organics, green topsoil.

00:41:33.000 So it's really a private park?

00:41:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:37.000 That's what my husband said.

00:41:38.000 He said, they're looking for passive recreation.

00:41:40.000 We have recreation right here.

00:41:42.000 There's no other horse riding academy in this area of the county.

00:41:47.000 We're the only one.

00:41:49.000 It's the same thing.

00:41:50.000 They got a place called Reimer's Ranch.

00:41:52.000 Beautiful land out on the Pertinallis where we used to go camping.

00:41:56.000 The old man died.

00:41:57.000 The state and the county and everybody said, oh, we're getting it to make it a nature preserve.

00:42:01.000 And guess what?

00:42:02.000 They're going to build luxury homes all over it with our money.

00:42:05.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:42:05.000 Right.

00:42:07.000 They took 25 acres of the farm in the mid-70s.

00:42:12.000 And around that time, there was an attorney Uh, who lived across the street.

00:42:19.000 He used to come here for, uh, eggs.

00:42:20.000 He did some work for my father-in-law and uncle, and there was some dispute, a fee dispute, and the attorney wanted the corner, the corner part of the parcel, and he had wanted that piece.

00:42:35.000 Uh, so it ended up, you know, with a dispute.

00:42:38.000 Coincidentally, This is really, I'm sure, more than a coincidence.

00:42:44.000 Well, this is what tyranny is.

00:42:45.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

00:42:46.000 This is where private individuals and governments use government to set up all their own little private empires.

00:42:51.000 Go ahead.

00:42:51.000 Right.

00:42:52.000 Well, this attorney was partnered, and we didn't find this out until this past year, that they were actually partners.

00:43:03.000 The judge who presided over our case was a partner of this attorney.

00:43:11.000 Uh, who had represented, uh, my father.

00:43:13.000 You need to file a judicial complaint on him.

00:43:16.000 Right, well he, well he did, the judge, uh, we, we, we finally, uh, you know, it's really hard to find attorneys who are going to fight for you because they're going up against the, you know, the good old boys network.

00:43:28.000 They're going up against that, uh, you know, that, that, that real, that wall.

00:43:33.000 And, uh, we found someone, Barbara Schwartz, who, Uh, who brought in conflicts of interest, because there's so many conflicts of interest.

00:43:43.000 It's unbelievable.

00:43:44.000 It's not called conflicts of interest, it's called collusion and racketeering.

00:43:47.000 There you go.

00:43:49.000 And, uh, the judge did, uh, he's the head judge in the county.

00:43:54.000 He assigned the cases, but he kept this one for himself.

00:43:58.000 He said that since we brought up the conflicts, since my husband and Barbara brought them up, he felt vilified and Uh, he used these words, not necessarily in his daughter, but, uh, and that they were viciously, uh, and villainously attacking he and his family, and he didn't think he would be able to be objective going forward.

00:44:20.000 So he stepped aside, assigned it to someone who reports to him.

00:44:24.000 Which is another conflict of interest.

00:44:26.000 Right, but he should have just, it should have just, you know, just to bring in another tanda, I don't mean to confuse people, because there was also, you may have heard the code word Machiavelli.

00:44:38.000 Our governor, McGreevy, stepped down because of, my brother-in-law had donated money to, I believe it was the Victory Fund, and McGreevy's fundraiser was going to help us get a better price for selling our development rights so we could remain on the land.

00:45:06.000 And we were going to go into farmland preservation.

00:45:10.000 Well, the fundraiser is in jail, McGreevy stepped down, and we're being thrown out.

00:45:20.000 It's like our punishment.

00:45:22.000 Yeah, this is the local mafia letting everybody know who the boss is.

00:45:27.000 This is incredible.

00:45:28.000 So run through it.

00:45:29.000 What are you facing right now?

00:45:31.000 Tell us about the cases.

00:45:32.000 Tell us how much the land is really valued and where this fight goes.

00:45:36.000 How much they're offering.

00:45:37.000 Okay, well I believe a building lot goes for about a quarter of a million.

00:45:43.000 There's four to an acre.

00:45:45.000 That would be about a million an acre.

00:45:47.000 There's 75 acres.

00:45:50.000 You can do the math on that one.

00:45:53.000 And then the jury... And of course, that's not even... You, by law, are supposed to get best price.

00:45:59.000 You're just talking about just compensation.

00:46:01.000 You should be able to sell it for three times the current value because of real estate increases in value.

00:46:08.000 But the jury was given a theoretical, hypothetical scenario of 133 units for the property.

00:46:17.000 They awarded us $18 million.

00:46:20.000 Now, the appraiser, the appraiser who, unfortunately, was open when it was a little too late, he had said to me, he said, oh, well, when you're selling land at such a sizable tract as yours, there's a discount.

00:46:38.000 And he said, well, let me, you know, just explain it like this.

00:46:41.000 He said, you know, when you sell one shirt, you said there's a higher price.

00:46:46.000 Then when you sell 300 shirts, there's a discount.

00:46:50.000 And I said to him, John, you know, I said, the only difference is, and it's a huge difference, you can always buy more shirts.

00:46:58.000 Well, that's not how appraising works.

00:47:00.000 You own the land, you sell it for what the market will bear.

00:47:05.000 Yeah, the appraiser's telling you, well, we're going to devalue your land because I say so.

00:47:10.000 Right, it's a made-to, right, and the courts You know, the whole group there, you know, sets the standard by, you know, oh, it's 133 units.

00:47:21.000 Well, you know what?

00:47:22.000 The township here, they changed their zoning at a whim.

00:47:27.000 So the land is really worth over $70 million, and that's at current rates.

00:47:32.000 You could keep the land and sell pieces over the next 20 years and end up making probably $300 million.

00:47:37.000 Well, with the inflation of land prices, this is in a highly developed area, very sought after.

00:47:43.000 So what's going to happen on Monday?

00:47:46.000 Well, on Monday they have provided no relocation assistance.

00:47:49.000 Monday they're evicting us at 3 p.m.

00:47:51.000 We've gotten letters from the attorneys that the township wants to bring in self-help.

00:47:56.000 Typically the Sheriff's Department evicts you, but our township wants to bring in armed personnel to take us out, to remove us, if we don't get out ahead of the deadline.

00:48:07.000 And then force you to take the $18 million?

00:48:10.000 Right.

00:48:11.000 And a lot of people... No, no, wait!

00:48:13.000 I'm sorry, Alex, the $18 million, the township, Has now, they are appealing it in the state Supreme Court.

00:48:20.000 Oh yeah, you'll never get it, sure.

00:48:21.000 Right, they froze the money.

00:48:23.000 They didn't even put, I don't believe they put all of it in an account.

00:48:26.000 They're going to take your land, spend millions of taxpayer money to never pay it.

00:48:30.000 Right, and then on top of it, they are alleging that they're environmental contaminants.

00:48:30.000 You'll get nothing.

00:48:36.000 You've got to be kidding me!

00:48:37.000 I mean, why would we kill ourselves?

00:48:39.000 And now, exactly, then they'll end up charging you money for the environmental toxicity.

00:48:45.000 Well, they say it could potentially be $5 million.

00:48:48.000 Well, they made a deposit of $4.3 million based on 1999.

00:48:50.000 They're made for appraisal.

00:48:56.000 And we're going to end up owing them money.

00:48:59.000 And then they'll send in a few bulldozers, scrape some topsoil off from the farming that's gone on.

00:49:04.000 See, it's always the same.

00:49:06.000 I don't even know the story and I can sit here and tell you the story.

00:49:09.000 No, absolutely.

00:49:09.000 As a matter of fact, we have organic topsoil.

00:49:13.000 We screened organic topsoil.

00:49:15.000 They have been harassing my husband, giving him tickets.

00:49:18.000 Harassing us, shunning the cops.

00:49:20.000 Again, from the top down, the police, all of them, this is a criminal government.

00:49:25.000 Oh, it's terrible. 0.64

00:49:26.000 It's horrendous.

00:49:27.000 It's madness.

00:49:28.000 You know, people used to say, or my husband used to say, you know, they're fascists, and other people came in calling them Nazis, and I used to say, oh, you know, you have to be mannerly.

00:49:38.000 You know what?

00:49:38.000 If the shoe fits.

00:49:40.000 That's exactly what they are. 0.58

00:49:42.000 They are dictators. 0.89

00:49:43.000 It's simple.

00:49:44.000 Look, they've set the precedent nationwide.

00:49:46.000 They're grabbing everyone's property and not even paying you for it.

00:49:49.000 Listen, the people who were lucky got $2,000-$3,000 an acre for premium land that is now going for a million dollars an acre in some cases, on average over $300,000 an acre, right here in Austin.

00:50:01.000 Believe me, I've seen it.

00:50:02.000 They'll be a hotel on your land.

00:50:03.000 You'll never see a dime.

00:50:07.000 Right, the same thing I think is in Paulsboro in Gloucester County here.

00:50:11.000 Farmers are getting hundreds or thousands for their land and they're going to build casinos and hotels.

00:50:18.000 So it's prime real estate.

00:50:19.000 It's a waterfront property.

00:50:21.000 And then you have people even in the city of Camden, they're being displaced.

00:50:26.000 You have people in Long Branch here, Waterfront Property, New Jersey Shore.

00:50:34.000 I've got a trick for you to beat them.

00:50:36.000 It may be too late.

00:50:37.000 You go to bigger government mafias, bigger corporation mafias.

00:50:41.000 Offer a deal with them.

00:50:42.000 They'll come in and push out the others.

00:50:44.000 It's probably the only chance you've got now.

00:50:46.000 Stay there.

00:50:46.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

00:50:48.000 One more segment.

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00:53:56.000 Imagine, they're trying to charge them money to take their lands. 0.87

00:54:11.000 Same thing in New London, Connecticut.

00:54:13.000 If you hear about this case in New Jersey on the national news, which you probably won't even hear that, it'll just be, oh, they're taking some land, it's an eminent domain, without paying them!

00:54:25.000 And then threatening to charge them money for land currently worth conservatively 70 plus million dollars.

00:54:34.000 They're going to charge them to take their family land that's worth over 70 million dollars right now.

00:54:43.000 In closing, Clara Halper, how do we help you?

00:54:47.000 What are your remedies?

00:54:48.000 Is there any type of state injunction?

00:54:51.000 As you said, they're already trying to put people in jail who've tried to defend you.

00:54:55.000 Where does all this go?

00:54:57.000 You know, right now, there's a public advocate's office in New Jersey.

00:55:04.000 We've sought after his help.

00:55:06.000 We asked for a moratorium on eminent domain, but he was unable to provide that.

00:55:13.000 The governor doesn't want to deal with it directly.

00:55:16.000 You know, I'm afraid that... I don't know what the remedies are.

00:55:20.000 I really don't.

00:55:21.000 You know, we've almost exhausted all our remedies in court, and the state Supreme Court has at least three justices I know that are very close with a law firm that was representing... was engaged in dual representation with us.

00:55:41.000 And the county.

00:55:42.000 When you go to these events, when you go to the city council, do you ever stand up there and say, how do you sleep at night engaging in this criminal activity?

00:55:50.000 Oh my gosh, yes.

00:55:51.000 Myself, other people have as well.

00:55:53.000 Do they just smile at you?

00:55:54.000 Are they enjoying it?

00:55:55.000 Yeah, they just sometimes, yeah, as a matter of fact, and then they try to belittle my husband and make him out like he's You know, a nuisance.

00:56:08.000 One, the township attorney, I delivered a package to his office.

00:56:13.000 I'd left the office, and I'd gone, I was just going down the staircase, and he came out, he threw the package at me, hitting my leg.

00:56:23.000 I mean, they're just so, there's just madness.

00:56:27.000 It's only going to get worse.

00:56:28.000 Everybody's going to get a taste of it real soon.

00:56:30.000 It's spreading everywhere.

00:56:32.000 You know, it's unfortunate because I know people A lot of times I feel that it's not going to happen to them.

00:56:38.000 But I see it.

00:56:39.000 I see it everywhere.

00:56:40.000 Especially in New Jersey, there is land.

00:56:44.000 They've cut up the state.

00:56:46.000 There's just no rationale to it.

00:56:49.000 The only rationale is that it's a developer's haven.

00:56:52.000 What's going to happen Monday?

00:56:55.000 Monday, they're evicting us at 3 o'clock.

00:56:58.000 We're trying to get whatever we can out of here.

00:57:01.000 Because whatever we leave, is considered abandoned property and they're going to confiscate it as such.

00:57:09.000 So our crops that they were supposed to pay for, our trees, our shrubs, our product, we're totally out of business and we're homeless.

00:57:17.000 We have no idea.

00:57:18.000 They're waging war against you so you can't fight them.

00:57:21.000 Let them know that you're going to hire PIs. 0.97

00:57:24.000 And you may not get them on this, but see, these people are all criminals.

00:57:28.000 So you will get them on other things.

00:57:30.000 Crooks do other things.

00:57:31.000 Be there.

00:57:32.000 Catch them cheating on the wife.

00:57:33.000 Catch them when they're stealing.

00:57:35.000 Catch them on other things.

00:57:36.000 Let them know that you're going to be there and you're going to bring them down.

00:57:41.000 How can we help you?

00:57:43.000 I, Alex, I don't know, you know, people can, you know, as many people that can come out to this rally, uh, that would be helpful.

00:57:50.000 Um, uh, calling, um, you know, and sending, uh, correspondence to, uh, the, the politicians in town and the state saying to stop eminent domain.

00:58:02.000 And that's Piscataway, well this isn't even eminent domain, this is him stealing land.

00:58:05.000 Right, right, you're absolutely right.

00:58:07.000 It is stealing, it's good, it's land grabbing.

00:58:10.000 Well, Clara Halpern, we're also all going to pray for you.

00:58:13.000 Because you're on the front lines and you're being literally devoured.

00:58:16.000 I know you're going to be very busy Monday, but I'm on the air in the hours before this happens.

00:58:20.000 Can we check in with you on Monday and then maybe you can have the City Council phone number and maybe the Governor's phone number on Monday?

00:58:25.000 We'll give that out on air?

00:58:27.000 Oh, sure.

00:58:27.000 That would be great.

00:58:28.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:58:29.000 Great.

00:58:29.000 Let me get you on at like 12 noon on Monday so we can stand up for you.

00:58:33.000 God bless you, Mrs. Halpern.

00:58:35.000 Thank you.

00:58:36.000 Thank you for having me.

00:58:37.000 We stand with you.

00:58:41.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-300-7645.

00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:53.000 You want answers?

00:58:54.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:04.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 We have Clara Halper on. 0.52

00:59:25.000 Her stations have just joined us in the last hour.

00:59:28.000 She's in Piscataway, New Jersey.

00:59:31.000 Her land is publicly valued, just on the tax rolls, at over 70 plus million dollars.

00:59:38.000 They are actually trying to go into the organic farm, which is in the middle of the city, and take it and charge them for environmental contamination, so they will actually be in debt instead of getting any money.

00:59:53.000 So, we're not going to give you anything to steal your land that you've had since the 1920s, but we're also going to then charge you money for it, just like New London. 0.85

01:00:01.000 This is the big secret that the Neocon talk show host won't tell you when they talk about all this land grabbing, and it's being run by the big developers, and the stupid, phony environmentalists, who aren't real environmentalists, are out there helping to promote all of this. 0.93

01:00:15.000 Alright, shifting gears. 0.99

01:00:19.000 Art imitates life.

01:00:20.000 Life imitates art.

01:00:23.000 And my good friend, who is well aware of the New World Order, well aware of what's happening politically, even back from his days at UT and college as a philosophy major, producing one of the best TV shows I've ever seen on corruption and government.

01:00:37.000 So he's been aware of the New World Order really longer than I have been.

01:00:39.000 He's Tommy Pallotta, and he's produced a lot of other big Hollywood films and some other art films.

01:00:44.000 He produced Waking Life that I'm in.

01:00:46.000 Releasing in the major cities around the country today and then hundreds and hundreds and thousands of more screens in the next month is the film A Scanner Darkly and Tommy Pallotta joins us now.

01:00:58.000 We're going to break here in a few minutes and come back and get into more detail on the film.

01:01:03.000 The film is so important because it exposes the police state, it exposes governments and corporations creating false crises that they manipulate and control.

01:01:14.000 It also is very dark.

01:01:16.000 It's also very humorous.

01:01:17.000 It has Winona Ryder in it. 0.99

01:01:19.000 It has Woody Harrelson, Keanu Reeves, of course, Robert Downey Jr.

01:01:25.000 And joining us is Tommy Pallotta.

01:01:26.000 Tommy, good to have you on with us.

01:01:28.000 Hey, Alex.

01:01:29.000 I know you're very busy.

01:01:30.000 I appreciate the time.

01:01:31.000 Oh, no.

01:01:32.000 It's a fun day.

01:01:33.000 It's an exciting day.

01:01:35.000 That's right.

01:01:35.000 It opened in theaters around the country yesterday in select theaters.

01:01:39.000 I'm told it's been sold out at the midnight showing and already sold out right now around Austin.

01:01:45.000 Well, I hope so.

01:01:45.000 I mean, it's only opening up in about seven cities this week.

01:01:49.000 It expands next week, and it's going to be kind of a slow rollout, so it'll take a couple weeks to get everywhere.

01:01:54.000 But if you go to ScannerDarklyMovie.com, it'll tell you, you know, when it's going to open up in the city near you.

01:02:03.000 If you had to describe the film just in 60 seconds, how would you describe The Scanner Darkly?

01:02:08.000 Oh, Alex, I think you could probably do that better than me.

01:02:12.000 But I want Tommy Pallotta's description.

01:02:15.000 Well, you know, it's based on a novel by Philip K. Dick that was written in the 70s, and it was really a lot about sort of the Nixon paranoia at that time, and it was a lot about the drug war, and kind of what we did was update it a little bit, and, you know, it sort of came really post 9-11.

01:02:32.000 And, you know, we kind of started thinking about it, the director Richard Linklater and I, and, you know, with the sort of Patriot Act and everything else that was going on and the War on Terror, it started to feel a lot like the War on Drugs before, you know, just sort of like this enemy that you couldn't really see and how, you know, fear was a way to sort of manipulate people and things like that.

01:02:50.000 So we just kind of updated it a little bit.

01:02:52.000 The sort of the War on Drugs is still part of it, but we sort of expanded a little bit more on the War on Terror and sort of how you use fear to manipulate people.

01:03:00.000 We'll talk about that when we get back from break.

01:03:02.000 You've been at big press junkets, and the media says, well, how did you know about surveillance?

01:03:06.000 How did you know it'd be so big right now?

01:03:08.000 What was your answer?

01:03:09.000 You know, I mean, it's always been a big problem.

01:03:12.000 You know, I mean, I think that he wrote about it in the 70s, and it was a problem then, and it was a problem before, you know, even now that it's in the headlines.

01:03:20.000 I think that things sort of just fall in and out of fashion, kind of, and right now some people were pretty overt with what they were doing, and, you know, the headlines grabbed it, but it's always been a problem.

01:03:32.000 Give us the website for the film.

01:03:34.000 It's ScannerDarklyMovie.com.

01:03:36.000 We've got links on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now, and we've created pages that are focusing on the massive coverage it's getting.

01:03:44.000 We'll talk about the film and what effect it'll have on society on the other side with the producer of A Scanner Darkly.

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01:06:59.000 We have one of the leaders of one of the largest family groups, victim groups of 9-11 who lost his son joining us.

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01:07:15.000 Right now we are joined by my good personal friend, an Austinite off and on, known Tommy now for about seven years.

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01:07:30.000 Coming up on Tuesday, we have the director, Richard Linkletter, who also has Fast Food Nation coming out in the next few months.

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01:07:39.000 A Scanner Darkly is unlike any film you've ever seen.

01:07:43.000 It's incredibly rotoscoped.

01:07:45.000 Every frame is a work of art.

01:07:47.000 It took a year and a half to animate it to the footage that they shot live-action.

01:07:52.000 It has four of some of the biggest Hollywood stars in it, but the film was made completely independently.

01:07:59.000 They made a lot of sacrifices to do that, and it exposes the police state, the phony war on drugs, the surveillance state, and so much more.

01:08:08.000 Critics are now saying, and the Dick family is now saying, of the famous sci-fi titan Philip K. Dick that it is the truest adaptation of any Philip K. Dick book novel.

01:08:21.000 And of course the only real change to the film is updating some of the police state technologies and the scene and some of the things that I do in the film.

01:08:29.000 Tommy Pallotta, again thank you for joining us.

01:08:31.000 Hey, thank you.

01:08:33.000 Tommy, tell us a little bit about the development of the film, how it all came together.

01:08:38.000 You Tell us about the zygote, the birth of A Scanner Darkly coming to the big screen.

01:08:45.000 Well, you know, it really started when we were filming Waking Life, which was a movie that came out in 2001.

01:08:51.000 We actually shot it around 2000.

01:08:54.000 And during that time, Richard Linklater and myself were talking a lot about Philip K. Dick, and there's actually a scene in that movie where he is specifically talking about Philip K. Dick.

01:09:04.000 And we were just sort of thinking about, you know, different stories and talking about, you know, he's the most successfully translated author to film, you know, the most movies, but we kind of felt like that no one had really captured the whole spirit of what he had to say.

01:09:21.000 And we sort of started throwing a couple ideas around and sort of settled on a scan of Dark Lady.

01:09:25.000 It took us about, you know, four years to really get it going.

01:09:28.000 It was sort of a hard sell.

01:09:33.000 You then put the team together, go through the live-action shooting in Austin in 2004.

01:09:38.000 Describe that for us.

01:09:39.000 Well, you know, like Waking Life, you basically are making two movies.

01:09:42.000 You shoot it live-action and then you You edit it in locked picture like you do a regular movie, and then from that point on we bring it into a team of animators who then sort of animate over every single frame.

01:09:53.000 And what you're left with is a completely animated movie that sort of has realistic movement and, you know, likenesses of the actors.

01:10:02.000 Tell us about the actors that are in the film, not just the four big stars but some of the others.

01:10:07.000 Well, you know, you're in it.

01:10:10.000 And I think, you know, at the time I was living in New York City before Scanner Darkly, and I think when I moved back to Austin, you were the first person I called because I really felt that you sort of embraced the whole spirit of the film, you know, of the novel and really what we were trying to say.

01:10:27.000 So, you know, you have a great cameo in it.

01:10:30.000 And of course, you know, we have Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder, Robert Downey Jr., Rory Cochran, and Woody Harrelson.

01:10:37.000 It's amazing.

01:10:38.000 You know, critics, almost unanimously, I haven't seen any negative reviews.

01:10:42.000 They don't know how to peg it or put it in a box.

01:10:44.000 It's got so many layers or facets.

01:10:46.000 I mean, it's funny, it's scary, it's depressing, it's hallucinogenic.

01:10:50.000 I mean, it hits so many different layers.

01:10:53.000 Can you give us your views on that?

01:10:55.000 You know, it's kind of an odd film and, you know, maybe I'm too close to it right now.

01:10:59.000 I kind of really feel that it's a A movie that I'm personally trying not to delve too far into it.

01:11:05.000 I mean, I think a lot of it is an instinct.

01:11:07.000 And I've been thinking a lot about just sort of creativity in general.

01:11:11.000 People don't really give instinct that much credit anymore.

01:11:13.000 You know, it's like we always have to verbalize exactly what we're doing and quantify these things.

01:11:19.000 And, you know, as I get older and the more stuff that I make, the more I'm just sort of following my instincts.

01:11:23.000 And, you know, it was just a story that I felt should be told.

01:11:28.000 Seemed important to me.

01:11:30.000 And, you know, I really kind of leave it up to the audiences to sort of figure out what it is.

01:11:33.000 I mean, I know there's a lot of confusion in it.

01:11:36.000 There's a lot of, you know, duplicity in it.

01:11:39.000 And I just, I really feel like it's a good reflection of the times right now.

01:11:42.000 It is a multifaceted, multivariate kaleidoscope is really the term that comes to mind, not just in the visual, but in the different relationships in the film.

01:11:52.000 I don't want to give too much of it away.

01:11:54.000 It is showing in Austin and a bunch of other big cities right now.

01:11:57.000 In fact, I have a press release here, I believe it's out of AP, saying it's opening in 17 cities, but I'm sure you, the producer, know better than that.

01:12:04.000 And I want to talk more about some of the cities it will then be coming to as they roll it out, as most films are rolled out slowly.

01:12:12.000 Tommy, controversy.

01:12:14.000 I mean, there are a lot of controversial actors in this film.

01:12:16.000 There is a lot of controversial issues to this.

01:12:20.000 But, again, this film was written, as you said, in the 70s.

01:12:24.000 You guys wrote the script a couple years ago.

01:12:26.000 Richard Linklater did, I guess, three or four years ago.

01:12:29.000 You then shot the film almost two years ago.

01:12:32.000 And we talked briefly before about when you go to press junkets, the media says, You know, this is all about surveillance, you know, total NSA, control grid, everything being surveilled, a secret agent spying on himself, you know, that's how duplicitous this is.

01:12:47.000 Give us more of your thoughts on that, and then how the press is responding, because this is controversial.

01:12:55.000 You know, I mean, the press really, I think it's a really hot topic right now, and I think it's sort of a serious issue.

01:13:01.000 Not so much that this hasn't been going on, but sort of the flagrant, you know, disregard for the rights that we should be having.

01:13:07.000 You know, it seems like right now we sort of have an administration that says, you know, we have no rights.

01:13:12.000 We have no privacy.

01:13:13.000 You know, they can sort of do whatever they want.

01:13:16.000 And, you know, I think that's alarming when it becomes that overt.

01:13:20.000 You know, that people are sort of starting to respond to that, and I think the press has really been picking up on that.

01:13:26.000 And, you know, it's an element of the film.

01:13:27.000 The film's not about that.

01:13:28.000 It's sort of really more an atmosphere.

01:13:31.000 And, you know, for me it really starts with the characters and the story.

01:13:35.000 And, you know, it's a tragic story.

01:13:38.000 And the people in this film are responding to their environment.

01:13:42.000 And that's really the empathy that I feel towards those people.

01:13:44.000 You know, they're sort of canaries in the coal mine.

01:13:47.000 And, you know, they're trying to find freedom, in a way.

01:13:50.000 And, you know, they can't really find freedom in their society.

01:13:54.000 So they're turning to other things, you know, like drugs.

01:13:57.000 Conspiracies and you know things like that and they're really victims and I view them empathetically.

01:14:02.000 Keanu Reeves really unprompted a month or so ago at the Cannes Film Festival while you were there, it was in several major publications, talked about how in comparison to the film how America is turning into a police state and how we're losing our rights To this police state, can you elaborate on any other statements he made that the press didn't pick up on, the public statements he made, or any of your views concerning what's happening?

01:14:29.000 You know, I don't really remember what he said.

01:14:30.000 I think that we always have to be, you know, that we always have to be critical, and I think we have to be worried about our freedoms.

01:14:38.000 And I think, you know, right now is a good time to start asking questions about, you know, really what's going on and what freedoms are we, you know, giving up.

01:14:45.000 Do you think these big actors were attracted to this project for almost no money, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, because they had in some way in their life experienced some of the similar things that are in the film, so they had empathy?

01:14:58.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, I think actors are probably really sensitive to sort of surveillance, you know, if you think about what they have to go through in sort of a daily You know, saying that they're constantly being recorded and, you know, people are always watching them.

01:15:11.000 Even if they're not being taken pictures of, they're being scrutinized and observed.

01:15:15.000 And, you know, I think that they're just a little bit more sensitive to that.

01:15:20.000 One of the main things that really attracted me to this sort of property, and something that you and I talked about, was, you know, French thinker Foucault's book, Discipline and Punish.

01:15:31.000 And in that book, it's sort of a history of the penal system, and he talks a lot about, you know, prison systems and how they arose in Western culture, and really how they use surveillance and the threat of surveillance to control and manipulate people.

01:15:47.000 And, you know, that sort of spreads through all sorts of institutions.

01:15:51.000 And that also was written, I think, in the 70s, and, you know, was really influential in my thinking about this project.

01:15:56.000 And I think it's a very real thing.

01:15:57.000 You know, it's about power.

01:16:00.000 And the unbridled exercise of power.

01:16:03.000 In the film, what percentage of the population is addicted to Substance D?

01:16:07.000 Oh, like 20%?

01:16:08.000 I can't remember.

01:16:10.000 I'm going from memory, too.

01:16:12.000 20% addicted to it, and the entire economy has now been geared towards surveilling, apprehending, and the drug turns people basically into zombies.

01:16:20.000 And boy, there's quite a twist in the film, isn't there, Tommy?

01:16:24.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't really want to talk too much giveaway spoilers, because I want people to go See it and, you know, enjoy it for the surprise that it is.

01:16:30.000 But, you know, I mean, I think that there is something, you know, I'm sure you've talked about this a lot on your show, that's kind of creepy about the privatization of, you know, prison systems and, you know, really a very large incentive to put people in jail.

01:16:45.000 Right now, just sort of economically.

01:16:47.000 And I think we're sort of treading on dangerous, you know, ground.

01:16:51.000 If you go to the Scanner Darkly website and click on the link on the main page that says Substance D, this is the first thing you see and hear.

01:16:58.000 Go ahead and roll the Substance D Alex clip.

01:17:04.000 Where did Substance D come from?

01:17:06.000 Why can't we stop it?

01:17:08.000 The bigger this war gets, the more freedoms we lose, the more Substance D is on our streets!

01:17:14.000 Can't you figure this out?

01:17:18.000 Just a little taste of some of the atmosphere of the film, Tommy.

01:17:22.000 Yeah, that's Alex Jones.

01:17:25.000 That was one of the few scenes that we added that wasn't initially in the book.

01:17:31.000 We felt that it was really appropriate for you to play that part and be the voice dissenting and trying to wake people up about what's going on.

01:17:41.000 Well, Tommy, I mean, I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you including me on this project and a little bit of consulting I did on some of the ideas, some of the look of the technology.

01:17:51.000 As I said, when I looked at the work you guys had done, it was already far surpassed a lot of my research.

01:17:56.000 You guys did a lot of research for this film on the control grip.

01:18:00.000 You know, I don't know if it was a lot of research as much as it just is sort of interest.

01:18:07.000 You know, and what's going on around you.

01:18:08.000 I mean, I think one of the great things about doing what I do is that it sort of gives me the freedom to explore things that are sort of interesting to me at any given time.

01:18:17.000 And I can sort of assimilate them into, you know, stories and characters.

01:18:20.000 Well, avant-garde, something new, something entirely different.

01:18:23.000 I mean, you have done something.

01:18:24.000 You and Rick have created something with your animators and the actors and everybody that is avant-garde, Tommy.

01:18:30.000 Well, thank you very much.

01:18:31.000 Well, I mean, there's no other way to describe it.

01:18:33.000 It is avant-garde at every level, every sinew of this film.

01:18:36.000 Hey, Scanner Darkly, if you're lucky, it's in your city, and soon it'll be in all your cities.

01:18:41.000 Hey, Scanner Darkly, we'll be right back with Tommy Pilat on the other side.

01:18:44.000 We'll also play the trailer.

01:18:45.000 It's not as powerful without the video, but we'll give you the audio.

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01:23:04.000 I'm going to hold Tommy a few minutes in the next segment.

01:23:06.000 Then we're going to get into 9-11.

01:23:08.000 Rock Ball schedule coming up the next hour.

01:23:12.000 Here is one of the latest trailers that has just come out for A Scanner Darkly that you will see in theaters.

01:23:18.000 I know every movie I go to I see it.

01:23:20.000 So here it is from Warner Independent.

01:23:24.000 What does the scanner see?

01:23:27.000 Into the head?

01:23:29.000 heart does it seem to me Clearly?

01:23:42.000 Or darkly. 0.75

01:23:43.000 Or darkly. 0.75

01:23:44.000 And that's actually just the intro to the website.

01:23:55.000 Later after Tommy leaves us in the next hour I will play... I think I'll play both the trailers, but we're out of time to do that right now.

01:24:02.000 Tommy, it was your idea to do this, so here it is.

01:24:05.000 Here's a little clip of my appearance in Waking Life.

01:24:09.000 It doesn't get any more anti-New World Order than this.

01:24:11.000 Roll it. 0.95

01:24:14.000 Death and taxes.

01:24:16.000 Don't talk about politics or religion.

01:24:18.000 This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.

01:24:22.000 Lay down, G.I. 1.00

01:24:23.000 Lay down, G.I. 1.00

01:24:25.000 We saw it all through the 20th century.

01:24:27.000 And now in the 21st century, it's time to stand up and realize.

01:24:30.000 I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world.

01:24:34.000 I want freedom!

01:24:35.000 That's what I want!

01:24:36.000 I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world.

01:24:39.000 I'm concerned with the structure.

01:24:41.000 I'm concerned with the systems of control.

01:24:43.000 Those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more.

01:24:47.000 I want freedom.

01:24:49.000 That's what I want.

01:24:50.000 And that's what you should want.

01:24:51.000 It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities.

01:24:59.000 Because that is the central mode of control.

01:25:00.000 Make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.

01:25:08.000 We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale. 0.91

01:25:12.000 Start challenging this corporate slave state.

01:25:15.000 The 21st century is going to be a new century.

01:25:17.000 Not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues with no significance and classism and statism and all the rest of the modes of control.

01:25:26.000 It's going to be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and something right! 0.98

01:25:31.000 What about your garbage liberals, democrats, conservatives, republicans? 0.98

01:25:36.000 It's all there to control you, two sides of the same coin! 0.99

01:25:39.000 Two management teams getting for control the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated!

01:25:44.000 The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies!

01:25:48.000 I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it!

01:25:51.000 Do you got me?

01:25:52.000 We're going to win this thing.

01:25:56.000 Humankind is too good.

01:25:57.000 We're not a bunch of underachievers.

01:25:59.000 We're going to stand up and we're going to be human beings.

01:26:01.000 We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter, creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit.

01:26:10.000 Well, that's it.

01:26:11.000 That's all I've got to say.

01:26:12.000 It's in your course.

01:26:13.000 Well, Tommy, I tell you, that scene, I mean, waking life itself is evergreen, But again, I'm even more proud of you for making that film.

01:26:23.000 You've done an excellent job, my man.

01:26:25.000 Well, you know, that's really one of my favorite scenes of the whole movie, and you really do sort of touch on a lot of thoughts in a very sort of concise way, and I hope everybody, you know, really listens to that, and I hope that they sort of propagate that through the web.

01:26:41.000 I mean, I know it's up on YouTube.

01:26:42.000 I'm sure it's on, you know, your website.

01:26:44.000 I just want people to see that.

01:26:48.000 Tommy, I want to just briefly get back to a Scanner Darkly and its production, The Dick Estate, The Dick Daughters, on their website.

01:26:57.000 Really, a tribute to the success of even getting this made, it had been attempted before, to you.

01:27:03.000 How did you get all these actors and producers and people together?

01:27:07.000 I mean, for those that don't know, the actors got paid what?

01:27:10.000 Keanu Reeves gets like $40-something million, $100 million on some movies.

01:27:13.000 Yeah, they did it all for scale, which is really, you know, the bare minimum that you can pay them.

01:27:18.000 You know, I mean, it's... Was it like $60,000 or something apiece?

01:27:21.000 Eh, something like that.

01:27:22.000 I mean, it was, you know, the whole film was done for $8.5 million.

01:27:26.000 This is not an establishment film, is my point.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, it really was a passion project for everybody involved, you know.

01:27:33.000 I mean, it's kind of a good way to make a movie, because you know that the people are there because they really want to be there.

01:27:39.000 And I'm talking not just about the actors, but the crew, you know, the animators, Yeah, everybody involved was there because they really believed in this project that, you know, the Dick Estate cut their price.

01:27:50.000 And, you know, it's a real pleasure to sort of work in that fashion because, you know, it really gives me a lot of hope.

01:27:58.000 That, you know, I mean, planets align.

01:28:01.000 Part of it's luck, part of it's just determination, you know, and just sort of getting it through.

01:28:05.000 I mean, it certainly didn't come easy, and it certainly didn't come quickly.

01:28:08.000 But I think that's like hardening metal in a fire in a furnace.

01:28:12.000 I mean, this has really been forged.

01:28:14.000 There were some storms, but you guys did it.

01:28:17.000 Is it even sweeter, Tommy, that it was hard?

01:28:21.000 Uh, you know, I don't know if I can really reflect on that right now.

01:28:24.000 You know, I'm just coming off the end of it right now.

01:28:27.000 It's always kind of a weird time.

01:28:29.000 I'm just really happy that it's going out there in the public.

01:28:32.000 A few more minutes on the other side.

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01:31:51.000 It's a powerful film.

01:32:03.000 It's a beautiful film.

01:32:05.000 It's a controversial film.

01:32:06.000 And it's a film that deserves to be successful, that needs to be seen, that really does do a good job of getting people to think outside the box and see the panopticon-type control grid that's going in place all around us.

01:32:19.000 In a few minutes we're going to go to Bill Doyle, father of Joseph Doyle, one of the leaders of some of the 9-11 victims' families, calling for a new investigation.

01:32:26.000 He'll be joining us in just a few minutes.

01:32:28.000 We appreciate him coming on with us.

01:32:30.000 Tommy Pallotta, my friend, it was great collaborating with you in a small way on this film.

01:32:36.000 And again, I just want to thank you for including me.

01:32:38.000 It's great to get a phone call with someone and just inviting you on to a film.

01:32:42.000 I mean, really, I don't have any lust to be involved in just a regular movie, say some cop movie or some action-adventure.

01:32:49.000 I mean, I could care less.

01:32:50.000 But it is exciting.

01:32:51.000 It is wonderful to be involved in something revolutionary.

01:32:56.000 Opening in seven major cities, 17 screens, and then building to hundreds and thousands of screens over the next month as it rolls out.

01:33:04.000 Some of the sneak peeks going on right now in selected cities around the country.

01:33:07.000 You can see it right here in Austin, Texas at the Arbor Cinema.

01:33:12.000 Tommy Pallotta, just any closing comments you've got about the film and the long haul making it before you leave us?

01:33:20.000 Well, you know, I just want to say maybe you wouldn't be so bad as a cop in an action movie, Alex.

01:33:26.000 That would be pretty funny.

01:33:27.000 Okay, Tommy.

01:33:32.000 The point is, it's just that... I mean, obviously... I know what you're saying.

01:33:36.000 I'm just joking.

01:33:37.000 No, you know, what I want to say about this movie is that, you know, I just sort of want to express to everybody that this really is an independent film.

01:33:44.000 You know, it is doing what's called a platform release, which means it's opening up in the city slowly.

01:33:50.000 Really, this weekend is going to determine the release of the movie.

01:33:55.000 So, you know, if anybody has any sort of desire to go see this movie, I really encourage them to go see it this weekend.

01:34:02.000 See it Friday or Saturday, because it's really going to determine, you know, how many theaters this movie is going to go out to see.

01:34:07.000 We really need the support of the people right now.

01:34:10.000 We don't have a big budget.

01:34:11.000 We don't have national TV spots.

01:34:13.000 You know, this is an instance where, you know, people really are determining the fate of a film.

01:34:19.000 I think it's fair to say the establishment, I don't want to get into any behind-the-scenes stuff, but I think it's fair to say, Tommy, the establishment's not too pleased with this.

01:34:28.000 You know, I don't really know about that.

01:34:30.000 You know, we didn't really encounter any sort of censorship or anything like that.

01:34:35.000 So, um, you know, I think a lot of censorship is really self-censorship, and I think that that's sort of the dangerous, uh, the real danger, and that, to me... Well, that's the panoptagon, where you surveil yourself and enforce against yourself, keeping yourself out.

01:34:49.000 And I think that that's a real threat, you know, I mean, I think, you know, to express yourself is one of the most powerful tools that we have.

01:34:57.000 And I think it's important to sort of stand up and, and, and be heard like you do on a daily basis.

01:35:02.000 You know, I make movies, they come out, you know, every couple years, and that's sort of my form.

01:35:07.000 Well, that's the point I was trying to make by saying I don't get all excited about just regular movies, but these art films, these activist films, these avant-garde, just incredible things that you put together, the two films you put me in, you and Rick Linklater have, Tommy, I mean, for you, in closing, You're doing it your way.

01:35:26.000 You're doing what you want.

01:35:27.000 You're really going, in many respects, against the grain of the way things are even done.

01:35:32.000 I mean, you made this film here in Austin.

01:35:33.000 You made an animated film that normally costs $100 million for, you know, like $9 million, $8.5 million.

01:35:39.000 You did it with the biggest stars.

01:35:40.000 I mean, you broke the rules, in my opinion, at every level, and you are doing it your way.

01:35:45.000 Well, those are kind words.

01:35:46.000 Well, Tommy, it was great getting to see you at the 9/11 Symposium out in L.A.

01:35:51.000 when you came out to visit with us, and it was great seeing you here at the premiere in Austin next week.

01:35:56.000 Of course, you've lived in Austin on and off, and I hope someday you move back to Austin so we can hang out more.

01:36:01.000 I don't see myself moving out to L.A., but I am going to come out and visit you so we can take that bike ride on the beach, my friend.

01:36:06.000 Excellent.

01:36:07.000 Well, you know, I'm always happy to support what you're doing, Alex.

01:36:09.000 Tommy, God bless you.

01:36:10.000 We'll talk to you soon, my friend.

01:36:12.000 All right.

01:36:12.000 Thank you.

01:36:13.000 There goes Tommy Pallotta, one of my best friends.

01:36:16.000 And he kind of orbits through town every few years when he's working on a particular film that's being produced in Austin, made in Austin.

01:36:23.000 And just, he's lived here for the last two years, just moved to LA about six months ago.

01:36:27.000 I really miss him.

01:36:29.000 He is such a good person and he knows all about the New World Order, ladies and gentlemen.

01:36:33.000 Alright, shifting gears, I apologize for him having to hold for four minutes.

01:36:37.000 And he's an amazing individual in his own right.

01:36:40.000 Bill Doyle, father of Joseph Doyle.

01:36:43.000 You bet.

01:36:43.000 died on the 104th floor on 9-11.

01:36:48.000 So tragic.

01:36:49.000 And he represents one of the largest 9-11 victims' families.

01:36:52.000 And they are outraged by the investigation that's been done.

01:36:56.000 They're calling for a new investigation.

01:36:57.000 And, Mr. Doyle, thank you for coming on with us.

01:37:00.000 Thanks.

01:37:01.000 It's a pleasure to be on.

01:37:02.000 You bet.

01:37:03.000 Sir, tell us about your son.

01:37:07.000 Tell us about yourself.

01:37:08.000 Tell us about your organization and some of the concerns you have.

01:37:12.000 My concerns at the moment, there's plenty of concerns about 9-11 because there's no accountability on anything.

01:37:18.000 Amen.

01:37:18.000 Thank you.

01:37:20.000 But I'm really concerned about the TSA or the old FAA and the way they classify every bit of information with no control or any oversight.

01:37:33.000 Well, I mean, describe the organization that you're the head of, how many people you represent, and then some of the case point examples of things that you're concerned about.

01:37:43.000 Okay, I'm probably the largest advocate for the 9-11 families.

01:37:48.000 I run about six different support groups, okay, and numerous.

01:37:56.000 I'm on the board of almost every family advocate group, and I reach 7,000 family victims.

01:38:04.000 Alright?

01:38:05.000 What their concerns are, the secrecy about 9-11, and what are things just classified or SSI'd.

01:38:13.000 In the case of the TSA themselves, I'll give you an idea.

01:38:20.000 During the Mazzalli trial, the defense attorneys and Mazzalli themselves, need all FAA information.

01:38:29.000 Well, what occurred is the SSI of the TSA, Well, the American public, or not all the families, cannot see that information.

01:38:42.000 How can we cater to an admitted Al-Qaeda member?

01:38:50.000 Well, they have to cover up.

01:38:52.000 My producers talked to you at length off air, sir, and you brought up the points of how the FBI had the credit card receipts.

01:39:00.000 They had informants living with some of these people.

01:39:03.000 U.S.

01:39:03.000 embassies said they were ordered to let them back in to the country.

01:39:07.000 I'm sure you're aware that the head of the Defense Language School went public saying he was ordered to train some of these people.

01:39:13.000 Now, I mean, let's get down to brass tacks.

01:39:15.000 Sir, you have questions about the official story, don't you?

01:39:19.000 Ah, without question.

01:39:20.000 I mean, if you want to believe what they're trying to snow you under on, like, the 9-11 Commission, that's all a fallacy.

01:39:31.000 And that was a best-selling book.

01:39:34.000 And you actually have Kip Hawley, who runs the TSA.

01:39:38.000 He says he doesn't want to release information to the 9-11 families, because he's afraid it'll go back to the terrorists.

01:39:46.000 Well, what about the firefighters?

01:39:49.000 They're on record, Philadelphia News, other major papers, that they found three of the black boxes, really orange boxes, and that the FBI loaded them on four-wheelers and said, shut up, you never saw this.

01:39:58.000 What about them ordering the FAA to shred the tapes and put them in different trash cans that day so they couldn't be put back together?

01:40:06.000 I mean, it's just an ongoing cover-up, sir. 0.82

01:40:08.000 I mean, do you smell a rat? 0.54

01:40:10.000 Oh, there's a question there.

01:40:13.000 There's something very questionable about this whole procedure.

01:40:16.000 I mean, just the other day they make a big announcement that the, just to give you an idea, the steel used for 9-11, all the steel recovered, all of a sudden they're going to build a ferry boat from it.

01:40:30.000 Okay, no, a battleship, excuse me.

01:40:33.000 Well, how come this, okay, who won that steel, To examine it to see if there were any evidence of explosives or anything else on it.

01:40:44.000 Well, I'm not allowed to get that steel.

01:40:46.000 But now we're building a battleship named 9-11.

01:40:51.000 With the same steel.

01:40:54.000 Exactly.

01:40:56.000 Bill Doyle, father of Joe Doyle, who died.

01:40:59.000 We've got links to different websites and organizations that you're the head of or that you've organized and set up.

01:41:04.000 And you raise a lot of really important questions.

01:41:07.000 The Firefighter Engineering, the oldest firefighting publication in the country, said there was a cover-up of the steel.

01:41:11.000 They shipped it to Asia, South Korea, and China under guard, but they did ferry some of it away into warehouses, later building memorials.

01:41:18.000 Did you know some of that steel has been now tested conclusively from separate sites, peer-reviewed, and that it shows that thermate cutting charges were used?

01:41:26.000 Oh yes, I'm well aware of it, but isn't it amazing how they got it out of this country so quickly, within days.

01:41:32.000 Okay?

01:41:33.000 And now we're going to build a A warship atlas?

01:41:36.000 Something's wrong with that picture.

01:41:39.000 Have you heard the tape where the man is in the North Tower on the cell phone?

01:41:44.000 He goes, oh my god, you hear explosions, and then the buildings start collapsing?

01:41:50.000 I know six of those individuals that talked to me directly.

01:41:56.000 So you've talked to six, I've talked to firefighters on air, I've talked to others, and hundreds of people are on record saying they saw bombs going off.

01:42:04.000 Can you comment on people's views, the victims' families on 9-11, sir?

01:42:10.000 Well, let's just look at one thing.

01:42:12.000 I mean, it's documented proof, and all of a sudden now, it's not that even Tower 7 was not hit by a plane or any of the debris.

01:42:21.000 It was up in flames, and then The owner of the place, Larry Silverstein himself, ordered it to be pulled at 4 o'clock that afternoon.

01:42:31.000 Pulled.

01:42:32.000 And all of a sudden it exploded inside of one minute.

01:42:35.000 Straight down.

01:42:36.000 And pulled.

01:42:37.000 It was even on the local news that day that, on NPR and others, that, oh, they're going to bring the building down for safety.

01:42:42.000 It takes weeks for a set of buildings to be imploded.

01:42:45.000 That imploded inside of like a minute and a half.

01:42:50.000 Right?

01:42:50.000 That was it.

01:42:51.000 Well, from the time he gave the order, it took, like, five seconds to fall.

01:42:54.000 Exactly.

01:42:55.000 It's incredible.

01:42:57.000 But meanwhile, you look at the 9-11 Commission book, they don't see anything.

01:43:01.000 I mean, the 9-11 Commission is probably the worst representation of the 9-11 families, or for that matter, all the American public, because it's a sham.

01:43:14.000 It really is.

01:43:15.000 We had tons of different questions that we asked them to ask.

01:43:20.000 It wouldn't do it.

01:43:21.000 Okay?

01:43:22.000 And the continuing cover-up is just beyond belief.

01:43:25.000 Founded in September of 2001, the World Trade Center Unity Family Group is a non-profit 501c3 and I guess you were its founder and head.

01:43:33.000 You say you represent over 7,000 people.

01:43:36.000 What is the average view of those that you represent about 9-11 and the cover-up?

01:43:41.000 What they want is, if you want to believe the 9-11 Commission story like a lot of us don't, okay?

01:43:50.000 You really gotta go look in the heart of that.

01:43:53.000 It almost looks like there was a conspiracy about 9-11, if you really look at all the facts.

01:43:58.000 A lot of families out feel the same way.

01:44:02.000 What type of conspiracy, sir?

01:44:04.000 Well, I mean, how do they pick September 11th itself, and then you look at that day they had these NORAD exercises.

01:44:15.000 That morning, and that, you know, when you figure that a plane was known to, uh, you know, be hijacked at 815, 820, and that morning, the one that, uh, you know, murdered my son, supposedly, okay?

01:44:28.000 Or was it the explosion?

01:44:30.000 Okay?

01:44:31.000 How in God's name did nothing go out there, and when the... And if you want to believe that the, uh, Pentagon got hit an hour and a half later with that Murai doing anything?

01:44:41.000 Or Flight 93 at 1003 in the, uh, Which is an hour and a half afterwards as well.

01:44:48.000 It's hard to believe.

01:44:49.000 Where was NORAD?

01:44:50.000 It was called, you know, a step down.

01:44:52.000 Don't do anything.

01:44:53.000 Let it happen.

01:44:56.000 Well, I'm sure you're aware, sir, you're very informed that so-called hijackers were trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station, Monterey Defense Language School.

01:45:06.000 Embassy heads said that they were flagged as terrorists.

01:45:08.000 They were ordered to let them in by the CIA because they were, quote, part of a secret anti-terror operation.

01:45:14.000 And then you have the flights all magically at 21% occupancy.

01:45:18.000 You have NORAD stand down.

01:45:19.000 You have CIA drills of hijacked planes being flown into buildings on the East Coast.

01:45:24.000 You have CIA-connected insider trading.

01:45:27.000 And then, do the Muslims have a motive to attack America and then bring the superpower down on them? 0.99

01:45:31.000 Who has a motive?

01:45:32.000 The PNAC document written by Dick Cheney, September 2000, says we need a Pearl Harbor event.

01:45:37.000 Brzezinski and the Grand Chess Board, former National Security Advisors, says we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event to mobilize the American people for World War III.

01:45:46.000 Well, we'll just look at another thing.

01:45:48.000 We had the FAA, and all of a sudden, what they do is come up with the new group, the TSA, which is probably the most corrupt group over there that classifies everything.

01:45:57.000 And they put it underneath the watchful eye of Mr. Chertoff with the Department of Homeland Security.

01:46:05.000 And believe it or not, I just had a 9-11 family member that got, received, a matricular card from, a fraudulent one, from Mexico.

01:46:14.000 They used this fraudulent non-matricular card to enter and actually go on the podium and got himself inside the Department of Homeland Security and actually made a long speech.

01:46:26.000 That's another one of my groups that are, you know, fighting illegal immigration and what have you.

01:46:31.000 Okay?

01:46:32.000 And this is the Department of Homeland Security and they're supposed to be overseeing our transportation and all the fares.

01:46:39.000 Or try to get some kind of sensible order into the government and all these agencies?

01:46:47.000 Instead all they're doing is surveilling the American people.

01:46:50.000 Oh, that's what they're doing.

01:46:51.000 Oh yeah, well, with the spying and what have you.

01:46:54.000 Exactly.

01:46:55.000 Okay?

01:46:55.000 I mean, I don't know how many times I've been tapped and I'm certain I have been.

01:46:59.000 Right?

01:47:00.000 But I just can't believe that... Give me an idea of another one.

01:47:05.000 There was a...

01:47:08.000 A film that went out there wrote, free hijackers beaten FAA or security in Washington DC.

01:47:18.000 Okay?

01:47:19.000 Well, somehow or another, someone I really know and I'm very close and dear to, got a copy of that tape before it got TSI, the TSA got it, or otherwise it would have became SSI.

01:47:32.000 We released it to CBS TV.

01:47:34.000 Okay?

01:47:35.000 CBS played it nationally.

01:47:37.000 Showing how these guys beat the TSA, um, not TSA, the FAA inspections at, um, you know, at, for security control.

01:47:47.000 They failed the warn, they went through the, um, the detector twice, they failed the warn twice, and they actually got brought off to the side and were still allowed on those, uh, planes.

01:47:58.000 Okay?

01:47:59.000 We've all seen it.

01:48:00.000 The World War II vet with the oxygen tanks is screamed at and searched and people with huge turbines walk right on the plane.

01:48:08.000 Because 9-11 is being used to enslave us, it has nothing to do with what we've been officially told.

01:48:14.000 Boiling it down, sir, as the leader, as the founder of the largest 9-11 victims organization, You talk about a conspiracy.

01:48:21.000 Who really had the motive for this?

01:48:23.000 Who stands to gain?

01:48:24.000 Who could really carry this out?

01:48:25.000 I mean, spell it out.

01:48:26.000 If you've got a point to finger and who you really think is behind 9-11, who is that?

01:48:32.000 When I first helped sign on all these families into a lawsuit called 9-11 Families to Bankrupt Terrorism, it's a trillion dollar lawsuit trying to identify Different banks, charities, and individuals.

01:48:44.000 Some of them being Saudis.

01:48:47.000 George Bush's lawyer, James Baker, blocked you.

01:48:50.000 Oh, James Baker, amazingly, is defending the Saudis. 1.00

01:48:56.000 Okay?

01:48:56.000 Prince Bandar Bush, I call him.

01:48:58.000 Okay?

01:48:59.000 He's actually, James Baker, okay, is representing the Saudis in this lawsuit.

01:49:05.000 Okay?

01:49:10.000 When we entered this lawsuit, when I was first contacted by this attorney, and he's probably one of the biggest attorneys in the world.

01:49:16.000 He beat the tobacco industry nine years ago.

01:49:18.000 Okay, his name is Rahm Ali.

01:49:20.000 He says, Bill, you lost your son because of oil.

01:49:24.000 Remember that.

01:49:25.000 Oil and money.

01:49:27.000 And, you know, when we look back at it, what's happening in Afghanistan with the CAP-BNC pipeline and everything else that we know that's all about money and lineups out of different people's pockets, You're probably 100% correct.

01:49:43.000 Is it an inside job, my friend?

01:49:45.000 Think about that question when we get back.

01:49:46.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

01:49:48.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:56.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:53:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:08.000 Top former CIA analysts, German defense ministers, members of Blair's cabinet, physicists, engineers, Kevin Ryan, one of the underwriters for Underwriter Laboratories, they've all said the official story is a fraud, bombs had to be in the buildings, scientific fact, So-called Al-Qaeda couldn't carry out attacks on this scale.

01:53:29.000 It's just a fact.

01:53:29.000 Talking to Bill Doyle, who heads up, lost his son, heads up, arguably, not arguably, the biggest 9-11 victims group.

01:53:37.000 They're the folks that sued the Saudis, and then James Baker and the Bush administration blocked it.

01:53:42.000 There you go, ladies and gentlemen, there you go!

01:53:44.000 That's supposedly where the hijackers came from.

01:53:45.000 Why not invade them instead of Iraq? 1.00

01:53:48.000 Bill, come on.

01:53:49.000 I mean, I can tell where you've gone with this.

01:53:50.000 You came up without me asking it and said you thought it was a conspiracy.

01:53:53.000 Bottom line is 9-11, an inside job.

01:53:57.000 Oh, from everything that I look at, I'm sure there was a lot of complicity, at least.

01:54:03.000 In the least, okay?

01:54:04.000 There had to be a lot of complicity.

01:54:06.000 If you read and know all the facts, what I know or you might know, there's no way in hell did 19 of these hijackers You know, carry out this mission.

01:54:17.000 Hey, Americans aren't wimps. 0.98

01:54:18.000 I mean, four punks pull out box cutters on an airplane with a bunch of men on it. 0.96

01:54:23.000 They're going to be going to the morgue.

01:54:24.000 Exactly.

01:54:27.000 And there's just such a continual cover-up.

01:54:30.000 Why don't you just let the information about 9-11 be known?

01:54:34.000 And then maybe this conspiracy type of thing would go away.

01:54:39.000 But it's never going to go away.

01:54:41.000 I don't think it can go away because they were complicit.

01:54:44.000 They were complicit, yes.

01:54:46.000 Can't go away because they were complicit.

01:54:48.000 The government was complicit.

01:54:49.000 Now looking at this though, with your 7,000 members, I'm sure you've talked to most if not all of them.

01:54:55.000 Run the gamut.

01:54:56.000 What percentage, just guesstimation, would you say believe 9-11 is an inside job to some extent?

01:55:02.000 Maybe half.

01:55:05.000 Maybe.

01:55:08.000 A lot of people themselves are probably trying to move on in life and a lot of them are speaking Mental health organizations.

01:55:18.000 I help a lot of these families with that.

01:55:21.000 They're on drugs.

01:55:22.000 Also, they don't even want to live back to 9-11 because they just can't believe that our government failed us so badly.

01:55:28.000 Also, if you shut up, you get a big payoff, don't you?

01:55:33.000 Actually, the payoff itself with the victim's compensation fund is a joke.

01:55:38.000 When you think about it, they took all insurance money and deducted it right from the top.

01:55:43.000 And then half the money that any for, you know, husband received half of that money because of the law, because of war, had to go to the children in trust for.

01:55:56.000 And then the Red Cross and United Way got over $4 billion and kept over half of it.

01:56:02.000 You know, that's beyond belief.

01:56:04.000 I actually went on TV against United Way, well, at that time it was the September 11th fund, about Josh Kaufman.

01:56:12.000 They collected almost $600 million.

01:56:14.000 And you know what they gave the 9-11 family?

01:56:16.000 Initially, $10,000 apiece.

01:56:21.000 We're talking about 3,000 people, okay?

01:56:23.000 And it was $30 million.

01:56:24.000 Then when I blew the whistle on them and went on TV, I won't tell you what station, they knew they were going on and I was going to blow them out of the water.

01:56:34.000 That was O'Reilly, wasn't it?

01:56:35.000 Actually, it was then-Defendant Steve Brian Williams.

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:40.000 Right, but they knew I was going on against Josh Kaufman and all of a sudden they said, oh, we're going to give each family another $10,000, okay?

01:56:48.000 But this is when there was real need for these families.

01:56:51.000 Which is a fraction of the... I mean, total it was what, $4 billion that the big charities got?

01:56:58.000 Four billion bucks and you got, oh here's ten thousand, which is a fraction of it.

01:57:02.000 Right, and a lot of people, you know, and I hate when I see someone on the corner and say, oh how much money did you get, how much, hey it's not about money, I want accountability, and I think... I understand, I totally understand.

01:57:14.000 Everyone in my family wants accountability.

01:57:16.000 But the money thing shows how greedy these people are.

01:57:19.000 Uh, well, even to some of the 9-11 Public, they just say, oh, how much money do you have?

01:57:26.000 You couldn't put a price on my son's life.

01:57:28.000 Stay there.

01:57:29.000 Stay there, sir.

01:57:29.000 We got to work.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, now into hour number three on this amazing Friday edition.

01:58:20.000 The first hour...

01:58:22.000 We have a poor lady on from Miscathaway, New Jersey, where they've got land worth over 70-plus million dollars on the tax rolls. 1.00

01:58:29.000 The government's taking it to bill.

01:58:31.000 They admit facilities on.

01:58:33.000 They want to just give to private interest.

01:58:36.000 And they've been told they're not going to be given any money.

01:58:40.000 The government's going to charge them money because of their organic farm, quote, calling the organic farm toxic waste.

01:58:46.000 This is how they operate.

01:58:47.000 Then we had the producer on from the Scanner Darkly.

01:58:51.000 Congressman Ron Paul is scheduled coming up in the last half hour of the broadcast today to talk about a host of issues, the economy, the war.

01:58:58.000 Congressman from the 14th District of Texas.

01:59:01.000 Right now for the next 14 minutes or so, we'll let him go at 15 after, is Bill Doyle.

01:59:07.000 And this is the guy who got the families together, the biggest families organization.

01:59:12.000 They sued the Saudis, if you believe the official story.

01:59:14.000 You know, 15 or 14 of the 19 hijackers came from there, all the funding, the connections.

01:59:20.000 And the Bush administration, the federal courts, and James Baker, the Bush family lawyer, and the Carlisle Group lawyer, went after this group and blocked them from going after the Saudis.

01:59:32.000 And instead Bush invades an innocent country called Iraq.

01:59:35.000 This is the type of stuff we're dealing with, and you heard him, about half the families think it's an inside job, and he's saying, how else could it be?

01:59:41.000 All the evidence shows that.

01:59:44.000 Sir, have you seen the documentaries that have been made about 9-11?

01:59:47.000 Have you seen Road to Tyranny, Martial Law, Loose Change 2?

01:59:50.000 I mean, obviously, I've been asking you questions about 9-11.

01:59:53.000 You're extremely informed.

01:59:54.000 Why wouldn't you be?

01:59:54.000 You lost your son.

01:59:56.000 I mean, what is it like knowing that there are people out there who are guilty, clearly guilty of passive complicity at the bare minimum, who have gotten away with this 9-11 and are using it to take our freedoms and kill America's soul?

02:00:09.000 Well, we can go right back to the FBI Director in the Mazzelli trial itself.

02:00:15.000 He testified that he wrote a memo and he was sentenced 60, 70 times to his higher-ups as a warning about the Al-Qaeda being in the United States, okay?

02:00:26.000 And the person higher-up actually had to testify in the Mazzelli trial and you know what he said?

02:00:31.000 Well, he didn't pass it on because he valued his job.

02:00:35.000 Give me a break.

02:00:36.000 In 2003, they gave record cash bonuses to FBI Deputy Directors who blocked Agent Wright, Rowley, and others who were specifically about to stop the supposed hijackers.

02:00:47.000 Call him Rowley, he's a sweetheart, and I'm in touch with the wallet diamond.

02:00:51.000 You know, what they did to her, they more or less forced her out of the job. 0.82

02:00:58.000 But then give giant cash bonuses to the people that targeted her and others.

02:01:02.000 Oh yeah, without question.

02:01:04.000 Or promotions.

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02:01:05.000 Without question.

02:01:09.000 They told Sybil Edmonds that.

02:01:10.000 Comments on her.

02:01:12.000 Well, Sybil's another beautiful person. 0.81

02:01:16.000 Uh, I help her on the Hub 5 as well.

02:01:18.000 I've been down to Washington quite a few times with her, and I'll continue to do so because she's on the right track.

02:01:23.000 She knows a lot of information.

02:01:26.000 However, our government has her underneath a gag order, and I'm just wondering when the bell will ring.

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02:01:37.000 Do whatever you want with me.

02:01:38.000 Well, she said this.

02:01:40.000 Exactly.

02:01:41.000 She's done this on this show.

02:01:42.000 She said, I can't talk about the specifics of this case, but let's say hypothetically the government really was controlling the terrorists and dealing drugs and running weapons and was behind it.

02:01:52.000 Well, if you really look into the 28 pages of the 2002 Joint Inquiry, which was bipartisan, Okay, I believe that those pages that address who financed 9-11, which they don't want to let you know, if you really look, and I'm hearing this from certain sources, that some of those pages were that the United States government sent tons of money over to Pakistan.

02:02:20.000 Pakistan themselves turned around and gave the money to their ISI, who were running terrorist camps in Afghanistan.

02:02:28.000 To come back over to the United States to murder a loved one. 0.96

02:02:32.000 General Mahmoud Ahmed.

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02:06:30.000 Bill Doyle heads up the largest 9-11 victims organization, the World Trade Center United Family Group.

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02:06:41.000 Bill Doyle, I've been watching you on the news, reading what you've said over the last four, almost five years.

02:06:46.000 I've seen your metamorphosis, your awakening to 9-11, all the evidence pointing towards an inside job.

02:06:52.000 And we've seen a metamorphosis and awakening by the other victims' families and others that aren't in total denial, as you said, about 50-50 right now.

02:07:00.000 What was that awakening like for you, number one?

02:07:02.000 And then number two, what is the awakening like for those that are starting to wake up?

02:07:07.000 up.

02:07:08.000 Is it painful?

02:07:09.000 Um, that day of, I'll never, I don't think anybody will ever forget, okay.

02:07:15.000 And that's what probably led me into trying to get the truth to be known and put the roadblocks between our senators and congressmen that have been indeed unbelief.

02:07:26.000 And then all these fraudulent agencies that are out there that are created just to hide knowledge.

02:07:31.000 It's unbelievable.

02:07:35.000 I mean, here, I'll give you an instance.

02:07:37.000 In October 2004, the National Security Archive, the D.C.-based non-profit, that obtained government documents through the Freedom of Information Act, wrote the TSA, which is the old FAA, okay?

02:07:55.000 And to release the text or even the titles of the five aviation warnings given to the airlines just before the 9-11 attacks.

02:08:02.000 The TSA says, no, you can't have them.

02:08:05.000 However, they're referred to in the best-selling 9-11 Commission report so many times, it's beyond belief.

02:08:12.000 I mean, the TSA themselves have no... they classify everything.

02:08:18.000 Well, as you know... As you know, Mr. Doyle, the 9-11 Commission claimed that Tower 1 and 2 were hollow and had no support columns in them.

02:08:29.000 Okay, I worked in those buildings.

02:08:30.000 Though, exactly, though we have video footage of the construction, it had the biggest Four foot plus columns, 47 of them, of any buildings ever built up until this time.

02:08:41.000 They were over-built, but they just lie and say they don't have columns and they make TV specials about it.

02:08:47.000 Well, we were just thinking about this.

02:08:48.000 We had a plane that crashed into the Empire State Building.

02:08:50.000 That didn't go down, did it?

02:08:52.000 Meanwhile, we have two planes that fly into the towers, and all of a sudden they get blown up.

02:08:56.000 Within an hour, an hour and a half?

02:08:56.000 What?

02:08:58.000 It's not even possible.

02:09:00.000 We have people standing in the holes where the supposed fire now has burned out to nothing, standing there.

02:09:05.000 They're not melting, but then huge pillars, feet from them, shatter and explode in total unison as they collapse.

02:09:11.000 Before the break, you brought up General Mahmoud Ahmed, $100,000 wired to Mohammed Adab.

02:09:17.000 Mahmoud Ahmed had only been to the U.S.

02:09:18.000 twice in his life.

02:09:19.000 The second time was that week meeting with Porter Goss, the heads of House and Senate Intelligence Committee.

02:09:24.000 Bob Graham meeting with the CIA Director George Tenet.

02:09:27.000 Meeting with all of these people the week before while his head of intelligence wires $100,000 to the supposed lead hijacker.

02:09:35.000 And you're saying you've got government contacts that are saying that those excise pages that they don't want to release are talking about our government directly funding them?

02:09:43.000 Well, what I've heard from different people, I've heard pretty well in the know that the substantial amount of money went to Pakistan, okay?

02:09:53.000 Probably to overthrow the Taliban or whatever.

02:09:56.000 Pakistan gave the money to the ISI who turned around and used money.

02:10:01.000 That they gave to, uh, that they received from Pakistan, what really, a U.S.

02:10:05.000 government.

02:10:06.000 But we know the coup of 2000 with Musharraf, Perez Musharraf being put in was staged by our government.

02:10:11.000 We know ISI is a glove on the hand of the Central Intelligence Agency.

02:10:15.000 Oh yeah, no, but that question, and I think that's, you know, probably one of the most damaging marks, and probably, uh, It would prove conclusively that the United States themselves might have been probably complacent or actually enabled 9-11 if that information in those 28 pages was known.

02:10:35.000 I mean, they actually financed in a perverted way all the hijackers or these terrorists in Afghanistan to take training lessons to come here and kill innocent people. 0.82

02:10:47.000 But it was with U.S.

02:10:49.000 dollars they did it.

02:10:51.000 Well, when people like the former Marine Corps historian and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Colonel Ronald E. Ray, come on this show and say the official stories are fraud and the dog doesn't hunt, I mean, every week more prominent people, sir, come on this broadcast and say it's got to be an inside job.

02:11:06.000 What are the crooks that carried it out?

02:11:08.000 Do you think they're starting to get a little bit scared?

02:11:10.000 Well, I hope that, um, I hope America listens and really what we have to do is both stay united and when you see different things, support your senators, support your congressmen, Uh, you gotta do it.

02:11:22.000 I mean, just let, just don't let, you know, some things, I mean, the, uh, Brogdon's, they all let the next person do it. 0.91

02:11:27.000 You gotta be, you go, gotta be, uh, proactive.

02:11:31.000 And, unfortunately, what I see in the United States, even on 9-11 issues, a lot of them, people say, oh, let the other person do it.

02:11:39.000 Well, if there's only a dozen, I'd rather see two million people do it.

02:11:43.000 And then, all of a sudden, maybe we could have the capers change.

02:11:46.000 What would a real 9-11 investigation, who would carry it out, what would it look like?

02:11:52.000 Personally, like, what we wanted, originally, one of the Jersey girls, Kristen Brett Miser, is a brilliant person, okay?

02:12:00.000 She was the spearhead, one of the Jersey girls, and I spoke to them, probably, nightly when we were fighting for the 9-11 Commission.

02:12:08.000 Why couldn't there have been, on the 9-11 Commission, some people like Kristen Brett Miser, myself, or whatever, Feeling the pulse of the families, knowing the questions that wanted to be asked.

02:12:20.000 Kristen is a brilliant woman.

02:12:23.000 She's an attorney.

02:12:25.000 Why wouldn't they allow family participation to be part of the 9-11?

02:12:29.000 And they lost, we're talking about people who lost family, then Ann Coulter, the neocon, comes out and savages these good women. 0.99

02:12:37.000 What do you think about that?

02:12:38.000 Ann Coulter, you know, it's all about, you know, Great American Way.

02:12:43.000 It's all about selling books, and all she had to do was berate a couple of people that are really thought highly of. 0.79

02:12:50.000 And when I really look at it, even my wife, who tried to stay nonpartisan, or don't get involved in these things, she says, you know something?

02:12:59.000 That was a conservative Republican plant.

02:13:02.000 That's what my wife said.

02:13:04.000 Well, I'll say this.

02:13:05.000 To cold-bloodedly attack innocent women who lost husbands and sons and daughters and mothers and brothers just because it'll sell some books. 0.99

02:13:14.000 I mean, these people are sick. 0.99

02:13:15.000 There's a lot of sick people out there. 0.82

02:13:19.000 Well, in closing, sir, anything else you'd like to add?

02:13:22.000 Mr. Doyle, we appreciate you joining us.

02:13:24.000 No, I'd like to just say, like, if the listeners could actually contact their senators, there's a bill that's most important that maybe we can get some of the truth be known.

02:13:34.000 From the TSA, it's bill number 5441.

02:13:38.000 It's HR 5441, section 525.

02:13:43.000 Just to call the Senators, who came up with another version just to keep secrecy, and they admitted this to section 525, which the House wants.

02:13:53.000 If we can call our senators and say, hey, listen, you want Section 525 of the HR 5441 bill included as a bill, That could probably be very helpful.

02:14:06.000 Maybe we can find out about what the FAA was doing that day or NORAD or anything else.

02:14:12.000 Maybe we can find out some bitter truth.

02:14:15.000 Are you coming for the criminals?

02:14:17.000 Are you coming for the people that killed your son?

02:14:19.000 I mean, because I know some of their minions listen to this show.

02:14:22.000 What do you want to say to them?

02:14:25.000 Am I right?

02:14:26.000 I'm sorry?

02:14:27.000 There are people in the establishment, people in the criminal networks that were involved in 9-11 listening to this show, guaranteed, sir, listening to the audio that we'll post.

02:14:36.000 What would you like to say to those that were involved in the attacks and they're listening?

02:14:40.000 What I'd say to them is, well, why don't you come forward and take your medicine, okay?

02:14:45.000 I mean, I know seven or eight thousand families over here that are still grieving and what 9-11 created is horrific.

02:14:53.000 I mean, I mean, tons of businesses went out, right?

02:14:57.000 And for them to be complicit in this, they all ought to be behind bars.

02:15:05.000 Well, I appreciate you joining us, Mr. Doyle.

02:15:07.000 God bless you, and we really support your efforts.

02:15:09.000 We have links to your organizations on InfoWars.com.

02:15:12.000 Go with God, my friend.

02:15:14.000 Okay, thanks very much.

02:15:15.000 Vaya con Dios.

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02:21:53.000 I was talking to one of my people here during the break, and he said, Glenn Beck last night, and he has that show on CNN Headline News now, and I've heard him, horrible neocon, acts like he's nonpartisan, big liar, total piece of filth, you know, acting acts like he's nonpartisan, big liar, total piece of filth, you know, acting like a conservative, and oh, he says, I don't believe in conspiracy But when it's staring you right in the face, you can't deny it.

02:22:18.000 The American Union. 0.94

02:22:20.000 Why, rough times for America ahead.

02:22:23.000 But see, that's what happens.

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02:22:30.000 Somebody like Lou Dobbs, who has some courage, who has his own contract.

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02:22:34.000 He left CNN, by the way, because he didn't have control.

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02:22:37.000 You know, he's able to talk.

02:22:39.000 He gets top ratings.

02:22:40.000 Other people then see that.

02:22:43.000 And some of these neocons, that's what they'll do, they'll mix a little bit of it in.

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02:22:49.000 They'll mix a little bit of it in because they know their listeners, their viewers are demanding it, going, hey man, because I've heard Beck pooh-pooh it in the past, oh hey man, you better cover this, this is real.

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02:23:01.000 Hey, they really are anti-gun.

02:23:04.000 I mean, I've heard Hannity before sit there and admit, we've got to do something about the border, it's a real crisis.

02:23:08.000 We've got to get Bush's plan passed, that'll fix it, and it's a total amnesty!

02:23:14.000 Now, almost every day I'm told, and I know people who actually hear it, Neil Bohr is one of the biggest talk show hosts in the country.

02:23:22.000 He's a talented guy.

02:23:23.000 I've met him before.

02:23:24.000 He walked up and started cussing at me. 0.92

02:23:25.000 I have it on video.

02:23:26.000 I never put it out.

02:23:27.000 At Ground Zero during the RNC in 2004, big guy, he says, make you take a big fat bite out of an Alex Jones sandwich.

02:23:40.000 You know what that's saying.

02:23:41.000 And it means nothing to me.

02:23:43.000 It doesn't hurt me.

02:23:44.000 I love it.

02:23:44.000 It means we're hurting them.

02:23:46.000 It means we're hurting them badly.

02:23:47.000 It means we're having an effect.

02:23:48.000 So they've got their high-level magazines, newspapers, talk show hosts attacking me, the Hannity's, the Bortz's, the others.

02:23:56.000 And then at the same time, they've got phony COINTELLO pro-operatives on the web now that have hit me from every side.

02:24:01.000 It's awesome. 1.00

02:24:03.000 These idiots are getting their battle plans, their orders. 1.00

02:24:05.000 They don't know it only makes more people come here. 1.00

02:24:09.000 People can tell and research this is legitimate.

02:24:11.000 You know, this is the real deal here.

02:24:12.000 You know, saying Alex Jones covers up this and that.

02:24:15.000 Alex Jones won't say it's the Pope. 0.54

02:24:17.000 Alex Jones won't say it's the blacks.

02:24:19.000 Alex Jones won't say it's the Jews.

02:24:21.000 You see, because we have a big tent approach.

02:24:23.000 We're fighting evil.

02:24:24.000 We're fighting the New World Order.

02:24:28.000 We're trying to get everybody together to fight this system.

02:24:32.000 We know it's evil people in control of almost every major organization and group.

02:24:36.000 It isn't one group.

02:24:38.000 It's about, you know, getting on the show and talking about transponder toll roads, American Union, open borders, what's happening with the Second Amendment, the land grabbing.

02:24:46.000 It's about exposing the evil, showing the government to be evil, to reverse it.

02:24:51.000 It's not about just saying the word Catholic, Catholic, Jew, Jew, Black, Black, Mexican, Mexican, over and over again, Zionist, Zionist, Zionist, Zionist, Zionist, like that does something to the Zionist.

02:25:05.000 Off on that subject, I mean, I have Zionist documents that are public where they say, going back 80 years ago, 75 years ago, supporting Hitler when he was a fledgling, oh, we love anti-Semitism. 0.93

02:25:15.000 That then makes the Jews all run under our banner, and so they can be under our control. 1.00

02:25:19.000 They go out and finance it.

02:25:21.000 They go out and create it.

02:25:22.000 So when I see myself being attacked from the bottom, the middle, and the top, and both sides, I say, Hallelujah!

02:25:29.000 Thank you, God!

02:25:31.000 That means we are over the target.

02:25:33.000 We are taking incredible flak.

02:25:35.000 It is intensifying.

02:25:36.000 We've got people online and on websites calling for violence against me.

02:25:40.000 Calling for violence against people in the government.

02:25:42.000 You know they're feds immediately when they're not arrested.

02:25:46.000 You know.

02:25:47.000 I mean, an average real person shoots their mouth off about violence about some talk show host or violence about some politician.

02:25:53.000 They get arrested.

02:25:54.000 Boy, it's a big news item.

02:25:55.000 You can tell a fed.

02:25:57.000 And you know what?

02:26:01.000 I know there's some of you out there who are young or whatever, haven't researched this, who get fooled by it at first, but I know over time you'll wake up to it.

02:26:09.000 And so people say, well, you need to respond to this.

02:26:11.000 You need to respond to the fact that you're anti-Semitic.

02:26:15.000 No, I'm not going to respond to that.

02:26:16.000 It's not true.

02:26:17.000 Who I am shows I'm not.

02:26:19.000 You need to respond to the fact that you're a Mossad agent and you're really Jewish. 0.98

02:26:23.000 And I go, well, I'm not Jewish, but so what if I was?

02:26:26.000 I mean, we're not anti-Semites, but you're really a Jew. 1.00

02:26:30.000 Well, if I was a Jew, what would be wrong with it?

02:26:32.000 I'm not Jewish, but so what if I was?

02:26:35.000 What's wrong with that?

02:26:37.000 You see, none of it washes.

02:26:39.000 None of it.

02:26:39.000 It's all lies.

02:26:41.000 And I see it.

02:26:42.000 It's lies when Bortz attacks me.

02:26:44.000 It's misrepresentation of straw men.

02:26:46.000 It's lies when Hannity attacks.

02:26:48.000 It's lies when other talk show hosts attack me.

02:26:50.000 It's lies when the New York Times attacks.

02:26:52.000 It's lies when Vanity Fair attacks.

02:26:54.000 It's lies.

02:26:55.000 And people know that.

02:26:56.000 People see right through it.

02:26:58.000 So the feds have tried to shift it to the web.

02:27:01.000 And to people posing as patriots, people see right through that. 1.00

02:27:05.000 And again, these idiot feds are attacking me, sending me listeners. 1.00

02:27:08.000 The listenership on the web is exploding, on AM and FM is exploding. 1.00

02:27:13.000 Everything is exploding.

02:27:14.000 We're growing by leaps and bounds.

02:27:16.000 As the Bible says, the enemy's attacks against you will actually be a blessing.

02:27:21.000 It's a blessing.

02:27:22.000 And they're so evil, they're not going to stop.

02:27:24.000 I can sit here and tell them.

02:27:26.000 Everything they're doing is empowering us.

02:27:28.000 They still cannot control themselves.

02:27:31.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:31.000 So keep attacking, Bortz.

02:27:36.000 We're on the march.

02:27:37.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:31:02.000 new NAFTA highways directly from their own documents federal government Hasn't been picked up by the mainstream news.

02:31:08.000 Jerome Corsi has written another article.

02:31:10.000 New World Disorders, the headline, World Net Daily.

02:31:13.000 Docs reveal plan for Mexican trucks in the U.S.

02:31:16.000 Internal emails allow public sentiment, suggest aim to expand quietly.

02:31:21.000 And a lot of those are internal emails that Bob Dacey was able to get them to correspond back and forth with him.

02:31:27.000 I mean, look, the stuff we're breaking here, it's incredible.

02:31:29.000 Some stories I don't even care about we put out get huge attention.

02:31:31.000 And when something we put out really important goes out there, sometimes it doesn't get picked up.

02:31:36.000 So my crew is going to post this World Net Daily article, and in it, we're going to post our other articles we've written.

02:31:42.000 I hope we'll get them out to everybody, because people need to know the full magnitude of this.

02:31:47.000 Something fun that means a lot to me.

02:31:50.000 Jeff Dice is a really great guy at Ron Paul's office.

02:31:53.000 Their whole crew is wonderful.

02:31:54.000 I've met a lot of them over the years.

02:31:55.000 I've been interviewing Ron Paul for now 12 years, before he even got back into Congress.

02:32:00.000 He was in Congress in the 70s, then got back in in the 90s, late 90s.

02:32:05.000 And we called up because the Congressman's trying to get to his house to do the interview coming up here in a few minutes.

02:32:11.000 And so we call the Congressman's office and he's back in the state.

02:32:16.000 And we're going, yeah, we've got a guest on about 9-11 so we can wait whenever the Congressman can do it.

02:32:21.000 They go, oh yes, we know.

02:32:22.000 We're listening right now.

02:32:25.000 It's just great to have so many people listening to the show.

02:32:28.000 So I want to give a shout out to Ron Paul's office.

02:32:30.000 I guess they're up in Texas.

02:32:33.000 Kevin, was that their D.C.

02:32:34.000 office you were talking to?

02:32:36.000 We're going to try him in just about four minutes and get the Congressman here on with us as soon as he gets back to his hacienda.

02:32:42.000 He just got back to town and is going to have a few days off with the family, Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul.

02:32:49.000 But I never really talk about this.

02:32:51.000 That's why yesterday and today I talked a little bit about it.

02:32:53.000 Because I've had people asking me about it, you know, who support us but go, well, shouldn't you respond to this?

02:32:59.000 If I spent all day responding to detractors and people that attack me and responding to national publications that attack me, a lot of times I don't even do it.

02:33:08.000 I mean, there's a lot of mainstream news articles you never hear about here, because we just don't care.

02:33:13.000 If it's about just Alex Jones, who cares?

02:33:14.000 But as a teaching tool, as an example of how the globalists operate their propaganda, we can illustrate it.

02:33:21.000 We can look at it.

02:33:23.000 And I listen to so many other, quote, Patriot talk shows, not the Truth Movement talk shows, that's what I prefer to be known as now, because that other name has been so sullied by maniacs, nuts, and government agents.

02:33:32.000 When you hear their talk shows or their websites, all it is is attacking other people.

02:33:36.000 Most of that is because they're ego maniacs who are just on a power trip and want it to all be about them.

02:33:41.000 But a lot of them, it's a snowball or mockingbird effect.

02:33:43.000 A snowball rolls down and gets bigger.

02:33:45.000 A mockingbird, you know, hears other sounds and repeats it, parrots it, basically.

02:33:50.000 That's what COINTELPRO does.

02:33:51.000 There's a few real operatives out there, and we know who they are.

02:33:54.000 They create the climate, they foster it, then they put out false claims and attacks, and those are duplicated and repeated and parroted ad infinitum.

02:34:03.000 And then as soon as you start trying to respond, it then adds energy to it, and then the whole debate becomes about Alex Jones or whoever's under attack.

02:34:10.000 With baseless claims.

02:34:11.000 If we did a show on that, can you imagine people in Austin, Texas, or Kansas City, or Southern California are listening to us on several affiliates in Illinois, or upstate New York, or Florida, or Tennessee, WBCR.

02:34:23.000 Can you imagine people tuning in who just want to hear about NAFTA highways, and the New World Order, and the open borders, and gun control, and people having their land stolen nationwide, not even being paid for it?

02:34:33.000 You see, people tune in.

02:34:35.000 They know about that.

02:34:35.000 They know it's a threat.

02:34:36.000 They know it affects them.

02:34:37.000 They want to learn about it.

02:34:38.000 They want to get involved.

02:34:39.000 They want to fight.

02:34:43.000 And that's why it's great that all these people attack me because then I just don't respond.

02:34:47.000 They send me anybody they've got as listeners or viewers.

02:34:50.000 We don't give them any response.

02:34:52.000 We get the people they've tried to turn against us and we just like judo use their energy against them without ever even really responding.

02:35:00.000 And then people come here and learn about the Global Crime Syndicate.

02:35:04.000 They come here and they learn about the New World Order.

02:35:07.000 So many people, too, that attack me will then admit, though, that I woke them up. 1.00

02:35:14.000 Those are the mentally ill ones, or the stupid ones, or the egomaniac ones. 1.00

02:35:17.000 They'll admit, well, ten years ago, or five years ago, you woke me up, and now I've grown past it. 1.00

02:35:22.000 You know, you won't talk about UFOs, and you won't talk about chupacabras and snakemen, and I've grown past you and you're covering up the alien agenda.

02:35:31.000 I mean, it runs the gamut.

02:35:33.000 So see, what happens is we wake people up, then they go off and get lost or get nutty or get into some weird religious cult, or they're government agents, or they get compromised, or they're under the control of a government operative, and it's sad.

02:35:45.000 I actually feel sorry for them.

02:35:48.000 In a sick way, I'm actually encouraging them to attack more and send me more people.

02:35:51.000 Oh, this is horrible what I'm doing. 1.00

02:35:52.000 And see, again, I can even sit there and tell them that, and they're so stupid that they will continue. 1.00

02:35:59.000 It's so sick, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

02:36:03.000 I instinctively know how this stuff works.

02:36:05.000 My whole life I've been able to see scams and frauds and see things clearly for what they are, to a better and better extent as the years go on.

02:36:14.000 The good news is we're beginning to win.

02:36:17.000 People are waking up about 9-11.

02:36:19.000 People are waking up to the New World Order.

02:36:20.000 People are waking up to the false left paradigm.

02:36:23.000 People are getting involved.

02:36:25.000 And a lot of that is because of our work, your work, but more so just the globalists are getting more aggressive, more arrogant, more out of control.

02:36:34.000 But cast away New Jersey, where they're just openly going to steal 70 plus million dollars worth of land, paying the people nothing, threatening to charge them money for the expense of taking it from them to then give it to local developers.

02:36:46.000 And then they claim it's for environmental reasons.

02:36:51.000 I mean, that's good old-fashioned, 800-year, you know, dark ages, Byzantine corruption. 1.00

02:36:59.000 That's just in your face, what other example do you need?

02:37:02.000 And it's every day, everywhere, at every level of society.

02:37:07.000 Go ahead and try the Congressman again, see if he's home yet.

02:37:11.000 I mean, this is the reality of what we're facing.

02:37:14.000 This is the New World Order.

02:37:16.000 This is what they're doing.

02:37:17.000 They're eating out our substance.

02:37:19.000 Read the Declaration of Independence.

02:37:22.000 Read how it exposed the government for being corrupt and out of control and abusive.

02:37:27.000 The list of particulars, the bill of particulars, the committees of correspondence, educating people about the crimes, cutting through the propaganda. 0.81

02:37:36.000 We're doing that now, and the New World Order is doing most of the work for us, waking up people who were too dumb or too tired or too busy or too distracted to listen to us.

02:37:47.000 The Iron Fist is crushing more and more of them, and then they're becoming the latest recruits to the ranks of free humanity against the globalists.

02:37:58.000 And again, I am so blessed.

02:38:00.000 God has blessed me so much in my work.

02:38:02.000 It is so good to not be perfect, but to try my best to attempt to be genuine, to attempt to tell the truth, to attempt to do the best job we can, to attempt to do the best research, and to be 97, 98% accurate.

02:38:17.000 It's just my life couldn't be better.

02:38:19.000 I'm in the best place in the world.

02:38:21.000 I'm so honored.

02:38:21.000 Of course, I'm in great danger.

02:38:24.000 And of course, we know we've got rocky times ahead, but I am just so blessed to be who I am.

02:38:29.000 You're so blessed that you've woken up to the New World Order, whether it was 25 years ago or last month or today.

02:38:33.000 I mean, we're alive, we're awake, we're vibrant, we're on the good guys team, we're wearing the white hats, we're out there trying to warn and inform people, we're not buying into the decadence and the corruption.

02:38:45.000 We're having victories.

02:38:46.000 We're getting prominent people to wake up and come out and stand with us.

02:38:49.000 And then the COINTELPRO people scream that, oh look, that means they're agents.

02:38:53.000 They're getting prominent people to go public.

02:38:55.000 Yes, we're trying to win.

02:38:56.000 We're trying to rally.

02:38:58.000 We're trying to get people to go public and stand with us.

02:39:01.000 We have to be ready to have victories.

02:39:03.000 We have to accept that we can win.

02:39:05.000 That's why we're doing this.

02:39:07.000 It's what I've always said.

02:39:08.000 We can win if we believe we can win.

02:39:11.000 We can push this government back.

02:39:15.000 As Congressman Ron Paul has said many times on this broadcast, when he's talking about the New World Order taking over, he says, you know, in their victory they lose, and when they crash the economy to suck us dry, if we warn people beforehand of who's really behind it, the globalists can't pose as our saviors while they're raping us financially, economically, spiritually, nationally.

02:39:35.000 So we're forcing the Glenn Becks, the Alex Joneses, the Ron Pauls, the Lou Dobbs of the world, You out there, the Sally Soccer Mom listening right now, Joe Sixpack, we're forcing them to cover real issues.

02:39:51.000 We're forcing them to try to stay pertinent and stay in the game.

02:39:55.000 To have to mention some of the real issues.

02:39:57.000 Alright, I twisted his arm to get him on here during his vacation.

02:40:00.000 He just got home.

02:40:02.000 Congressman Ron Paul, we've got you for 18 minutes.

02:40:04.000 Thank you for coming on.

02:40:05.000 Good.

02:40:05.000 Good to be with you again.

02:40:06.000 And don't call this a vacation.

02:40:08.000 You know I do work when I'm in Texas.

02:40:09.000 Sometimes they make me work harder here than in Washington.

02:40:12.000 Actually, I know that you march and drive from rally to rally.

02:40:15.000 I know that you're the hardest working man in Congress.

02:40:17.000 Yeah, we get around and try to talk to our people, trying to find out what they're thinking about.

02:40:21.000 You talk to a lot of people every day, so you know pretty much what the people are thinking.

02:40:25.000 Well, you know what they're talking about.

02:40:26.000 You've been talking about it for decades.

02:40:27.000 The American Union is now being admitted.

02:40:29.000 Secret deals now public.

02:40:31.000 80 plus NAFTA highways.

02:40:33.000 Congressman, give us your take on that.

02:40:34.000 Yeah, and I see all of that connected to the two main issues. 0.93

02:40:38.000 I've talked about our foreign policy, our stupid foreign policy, as well as our monetary policy, which helps to finance all this.

02:40:46.000 I think the goal is one world government, and you've seen it coming, and you've warned about it. 0.88

02:40:51.000 You know, we have not only the UN, we have the WTO, we have the IMF, the World Bank, and then we have all these subsidiaries like NAFTA, and hemispheric governments, highways coming in.

02:41:05.000 I just hope and pray that we can wake up people.

02:41:09.000 There are some days when I'm at home, I'm more encouraged than when I'm in Washington.

02:41:13.000 You know, because people here, in Texas in particular, People are awakening to this.

02:41:18.000 They certainly got the attention of a lot of people on the immigration issue, but it seems like nothing really changes.

02:41:25.000 We might get their ear and they might say a few things and hold things up a little bit, but ultimately they just sort of, as soon as it quiets down, they go ahead and do what they want.

02:41:35.000 So the good news is the people are waking up.

02:41:36.000 The bad news is the government juggernaut is just rolling forward.

02:41:41.000 Yeah, I think it's so well entrenched and there are a lot of things that don't change easily.

02:41:46.000 I've always argued the constitutional foreign policy of non-intervention and staying out of the internal affairs of others.

02:41:52.000 To shift that gears, boy that is a major task to get people thinking differently.

02:41:58.000 And the monetary issue, you know, to shift gears there...

02:42:01.000 If you don't do it correctly, it can actually, in the short run, make things worse for us.

02:42:05.000 In fact, let's get into the economic situation.

02:42:08.000 What is, Ron Paul, you've had a great gauge in the past.

02:42:14.000 Bernanke is saying he's going to print money even faster, a doubling of money supply in the next six years, maybe even sooner.

02:42:20.000 What's happening with inflation?

02:42:22.000 They're trying to hide.

02:42:22.000 What do you see happening?

02:42:24.000 Well, I think it's going to get worse.

02:42:25.000 The analogy I draw to what Bernanke is doing, you know, he's tinkering a little bit with raising interest rates, but they're still way below the inflation rate.

02:42:37.000 So, therefore, it's a negative interest rate, and they're not achieving anything.

02:42:40.000 It's sort of like a doctor treating an infection and giving a little bit of penicillin, and then the bacteria adapts to it, and it becomes immune, and the medication doesn't do any good, and you need more and longer and longer.

02:42:53.000 Actually, the medication doesn't even work.

02:42:56.000 Actually makes it worse, yeah.

02:42:57.000 Yeah, and so what Bernanke is doing with his tinkering around and trying to save a system, I think he's just building a bigger problem, a bigger financial bubble, and I think the dollar crisis is on the horizon, and yet we still can't predict when that's going to happen.

02:43:14.000 It comes when the foreigners get tired of taking our paper money. 1.00

02:43:18.000 The Financial Times of London and other respected publications that I've noticed are good bellwethers are saying any time in the next year to two years we could see a total implosion of the dollar.

02:43:27.000 I think that's possible.

02:43:28.000 I wouldn't bet all my savings on it, but I'd certainly work to protect myself against it, assuming that's the case.

02:43:34.000 But of course I've worried about this for many years, so I started buying things like gold and silver when gold was $35 an ounce.

02:43:42.000 So even though there wasn't a total implosion, there wasn't too bad protection.

02:43:46.000 You know, they've devalued their money tremendously in those years, although it's not been catastrophic.

02:43:53.000 The end stages of a paper currency usually is catastrophic if you just recall how the peso goes in Mexico and these other countries.

02:44:01.000 It's a loss of confidence and they race from the currency and then you have runaway inflation.

02:44:06.000 Well, we've seen a 97% devaluation of the dollar in the last 106 years since 1900 and we've seen most of that devaluation in the last 10 years.

02:44:16.000 Yes, but there's a significant change in the depreciation of the money from 1971 Of course, when we got off the last bit of the gold standard that we have, but you're right, in the last 10-15 years there's been a tremendous increase, so we're sort of on one of these escalating curves, and it's not likely to go down for a long time.

02:44:37.000 Congressman, what do you think is most important right now?

02:44:39.000 What are a few of the issues you want to impart to the listenership?

02:44:42.000 Well, the ultimate goal is to preserve individual liberty, which means to restrain big governments, so there's a lot of issue there.

02:44:50.000 As far as issues go, I would say immigration is top of the list right now, protecting our borders, which is, there's not a strong desire on our administration to do this.

02:45:02.000 At the same time, we're designing a policy where we're draining this country of money and personnel by spreading ourselves around the world. 0.92

02:45:10.000 So where we have, you know, our troops and money and Everything overseas and building buildings overseas at the same time neglecting our border security.

02:45:21.000 I think that's the big one because that is also intertwined with our deficits.

02:45:26.000 You know, they have these huge expenditures overseas.

02:45:30.000 Today I had someone in my office and they showed me what we're doing in Washington is that we're cutting things like cancer research.

02:45:38.000 Now I happen to believe that under the Constitution cancer research could be handled in a different way, but I have a great deal of sympathy For those programs over what we're doing overseas and foreign aid.

02:45:49.000 You know, we don't have to cut cancer research or veterans.

02:45:52.000 Certainly.

02:45:52.000 I mean, they're cutting some of the better government programs that could be argued, even though they're not constitutional, or at least more palatable and good for the public welfare versus, you know, some construction deal given to the Saudis.

02:46:04.000 Yeah, or building an embassy in Baghdad that's bigger than the Vatican.

02:46:09.000 Let me shift gears to property because that is part of the economy.

02:46:12.000 Going on in Piscataway, New Jersey, land valued publicly just at tax roll prices at over $70 million.

02:46:21.000 The local city is stealing it and not even saying they're going to give any money to the family.

02:46:25.000 And they admit that they're using environmental reasons to grab it.

02:46:28.000 It's just a farm.

02:46:29.000 And they're saying that they're going to give it to private developers.

02:46:32.000 We're now seeing stuff even worse than New London, sir, on a weekly basis.

02:46:36.000 Give us your take on the attack on property rights.

02:46:39.000 Well, that's been steady.

02:46:40.000 I don't think we really own our property, and I've been arguing that for several decades, because although we have title to it, we have liability and responsibility to keep it going and pay a huge amount of taxes.

02:46:53.000 But if we don't pay the tax and follow the regulations, we can't use our land.

02:46:57.000 And just think how FEMA and Fish and Wildlife and OSHA and EPA We have to get all these permits before we even can dig a ditch or drain our land or do anything.

02:47:07.000 Exactly, but Congressman, my question is, from my perspective, things are getting into kind of a hyper-orgy of government stealing with corporations that aren't free market backing up using government as their arm.

02:47:19.000 I mean, you're in Washington.

02:47:21.000 Is it just my perception or would you say it's accurate that it seems like things are progressively exponentially going wild?

02:47:28.000 They are, and it's part of the military-industrial complex.

02:47:32.000 It's part of the Halliburton control over government.

02:47:35.000 Halliburton not only benefits from the military spending, but think about how Halliburton got those no-bid contracts for Katrina relief, you know, hurricane relief through FEMA.

02:47:46.000 So, yes, I think that it is out of control, but the important thing is in Arguing this case, the socialists all say, see what capitalism does to it!

02:47:58.000 See this, Halliburton, they're capitalists!

02:48:00.000 Which we have to refute, because they are not true free market people at all.

02:48:05.000 These are people who are in bed with the government, and they're in cahoots with the government, and they live off the government, and free markets don't work that way.

02:48:13.000 Free markets put a lot of pressure on business people to provide a good service at the right price.

02:48:18.000 That's what they're supposed to do.

02:48:19.000 Well, it's fascism, isn't it?

02:48:21.000 It's fascism when the government and big business get together, and you know what happened in Europe, you know, 50 years or so ago, when they did that.

02:48:30.000 The fascism is very dangerous.

02:48:32.000 And I think we have a, we have sort of a soft fascism.

02:48:36.000 Usually people think of fascism with a strong... Let's stay there, Congressman.

02:48:41.000 We've got a break.

02:48:41.000 Final segment with you after this quick break.

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02:51:57.000 Congressman, you know, When Democrats are in, we see the evil of government with a Democratic face.

02:52:02.000 When Republicans are in, oh, it's all the Republicans.

02:52:05.000 I see it with each administration just getting progressively worse because the system itself is getting worse.

02:52:10.000 President Bush has said he's above the law on over 750 issues.

02:52:14.000 He's said he's above the law, and now I see locals saying they're above the law.

02:52:19.000 The furor precept is now being picked up.

02:52:21.000 Can you speak to this above the law business?

02:52:25.000 Yeah, I think that is the basic problem.

02:52:28.000 It's more than just one individual.

02:52:30.000 It is pervasive.

02:52:31.000 And it's the lack of respect for the rule of law.

02:52:34.000 And the rule of law, as far as the federal government is concerned, is the Constitution and our oath of office.

02:52:41.000 So I take that very seriously.

02:52:43.000 But the members of Congress, you know, rationalize everything.

02:52:47.000 They were taught throughout their public school education that the Constitution is a living, flexible document.

02:52:53.000 It should adapt to modern times, and you shouldn't be held overly rigid to this rule of law.

02:52:59.000 So Congress has generously ignored the Constitution.

02:53:04.000 The President flaunts it, and the courts have ignored it, and they get in the business of legislating.

02:53:09.000 So there's no respect for the rule of law, and they think that maybe on just one or two occasions they can do this, but all you have to do is once and establish the principle Because if you can reject one part of the Constitution without amending it, you can reject any part.

02:53:27.000 Well, it's snowballing.

02:53:29.000 It's snowballing.

02:53:30.000 Now it's wholesale.

02:53:31.000 It's routine.

02:53:32.000 And the principle is well established now that you don't have to follow the Constitution.

02:53:38.000 When the President signs all these bills and has these statements afterwards that, well, I have no intention of following it, he's in a way signing it.

02:53:48.000 And vetoing.

02:53:49.000 So in his mind, he's vetoing a lot of bills.

02:53:51.000 In our mind, under the rule of law, he hasn't vetoed a thing.

02:53:55.000 But he's going to decide what he's going to enforce and not enforce.

02:53:59.000 What do you see happening with the impeachment of Bush coming up, if the Democrats win control?

02:54:03.000 Do you think they'll win the House and Senator, either one?

02:54:05.000 What do you see happening in the next six months?

02:54:08.000 I'd be surprised if they win both.

02:54:10.000 But they're probably going to win one body, and if they win the House, Right now, they do not say they would have an impeachment, but I think the way that place operates, I think they probably will make every effort.

02:54:25.000 Now, if they win it by one vote, maybe not, but if they happen to have a 10 or 15 vote margin, it would be a political thing.

02:54:33.000 They wouldn't be holier than thou, but I think it would be payback time.

02:54:40.000 Does President Bush deserve to be impeached for the things he's done?

02:54:44.000 Well, I would have trouble arguing that he has been a constitutional president, and once you violate the Constitution and can be proven to do that, I think these people should be removed from office.

02:54:56.000 A bold statement from you, Congressman, but your views are wildly popular here in Texas.

02:55:00.000 In fact, if you look at the polls nationally and the Constitution, what you're doing is popular.

02:55:04.000 Why can't we get more members of Congress like yourself?

02:55:08.000 I don't know why.

02:55:09.000 I think the message is very powerful, and I think when you defend free markets, and you defend personal liberty and privacy, and defend the Constitution, and propose a foreign policy that was designed by the founders of this country, If you ask general questions of the American people, they say, yeah, that sounds really great.

02:55:31.000 Last question, Congressman, we're out of time here.

02:55:33.000 I appreciate you joining us.

02:55:34.000 The Iran situation, what do you see happening there?

02:55:37.000 And what do you see happening in Iraq?

02:55:39.000 How long will we be there?

02:55:41.000 Oh, Iraq, endlessly. 0.99

02:55:42.000 I don't see us coming home.

02:55:44.000 I think that a lot more people are going to get killed on both sides, and it will come home probably when we go bankrupt.

02:55:50.000 And I think the neocons still have a great deal of influence on the administration.

02:55:55.000 And that I wouldn't be surprised within a year or two, we will be in a military conflict over there too.

02:56:01.000 So you think they're going into Iran?

02:56:03.000 I don't think they'd do it the same way with Iraq, because hopefully they learned a little bit. 0.92

02:56:07.000 But I think they'll confront them and bomb.

02:56:10.000 And then maybe grab some of the western areas? 0.80

02:56:12.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:56:13.000 But just enough to further endanger ourselves, because that will be just more motivation to, you know, come after us.

02:56:22.000 Congressman, thank you for joining us.

02:56:24.000 Okay, very good.

Alex Jones Show - July 07, 2006

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