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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:00:31.000 It is the 13th day of July, 2006 on this Thursday edition I'm Alex Jones your host will be here live for the next three hours Coming up in the second hour 60 minutes from now We're going to be joined by By Kevin Barrett, and of course he is a doctor, he is a professor, and he was on Hannity and Combs a few nights ago, did a great job exposing 9-11 as an inside job.

00:00:59.000 Many neocons are calling for him to be fired from his job or removed as a professor.

00:01:06.000 Dr. Bob Bowman last night was on Hannity and Combs and did a decent job.

00:01:10.000 He wasn't as hardcore as I would have liked.

00:01:12.000 We'll play both of those clips and analyze them and comment on them today.

00:01:17.000 Then coming up later in the third hour, we have Connie Fogel joining us, and she heads up an organization in Canada that's fighting for their sovereignty, and they're dealing with the American Union situation.

00:01:33.000 There have been several big new developments that Jerome Corsi and others have also written about, even in the mainstream media and human events.

00:01:40.000 So we'll be covering the American Union in the third hour today.

00:01:45.000 Of course, Israel has stepped up its military offensives now into two separate countries, regions in their area.

00:01:55.000 In their area of the world.

00:01:57.000 Bush defends Israel's action.

00:01:59.000 Russia condemns attacks from Reuters.

00:02:01.000 Russia and France condemned Israel's strikes in Lebanon on Thursday as a dangerous escalation of the Middle East conflict.

00:02:08.000 But the United States and Israel have the right to defend itself. 0.50

00:02:11.000 Even Greece that really hates the Arabs. 0.98

00:02:13.000 They have a long history. 0.51

00:02:15.000 They're saying it's insane and wrong.

00:02:17.000 President Bush defended Israel's attack on Beirut Airport, but warned the Israelis they should be careful not to weaken the fragile Lebanese government.

00:02:27.000 And this is the biggest escalation by the Israeli military since the early 1980s.

00:02:33.000 President Bush is defending these actions.

00:02:35.000 Israel has the right to defend itself, Bush told a news conference after talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

00:02:42.000 Secondarily, whatever Israel does should not weaken the government in Lebanon.

00:02:47.000 No, they're just blowing up different governmental facilities. 0.74

00:02:51.000 Bush and Merkel made clear at a joint news conference that they felt Israel's actions in seeking kidnapped soldiers and responding to Hezbollah rocket attacks were justified, but a Russian foreign minister denounced both Israel's attacks on Lebanon and its operations against the Palestinian territories.

00:03:07.000 This is a disproportionate response to what has happened, and both sides are going to drive each other into a tight corner that I think All this will develop into a very dramatic and tragic way, he told reporters, on a flight from Paris to Moscow.

00:03:20.000 Interfax News Agency reported Israel struck Beirut airport and began enforcing a naval blockade of Lebanon today.

00:03:29.000 Intensifying reprisals after Hezbollah seized two Israeli soldiers and killed eight in cross-border attacks on Wednesday.

00:03:36.000 The Israeli attacks have killed 52 Lebanese civilians.

00:03:39.000 Disproportionate French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste Blasi called Israel's bombardment of Beirut airport a disproportionate act of war, saying there was a real risk of regional war.

00:03:52.000 I agree!

00:03:53.000 We are really seeing the kickoff, what could be the kickoff, For a World War 3 type scenario, which is exactly what Israel wants. 0.94

00:04:01.000 They've been openly saying for the last year they may strike Iran at any time.

00:04:05.000 You notice all of this escalation is taking place right around the time of the deadline coming up in just a few days that President Bush set a few weeks ago for Iran.

00:04:17.000 to suspend their peaceful nuclear enrichment activities for reactors for power.

00:04:24.000 We have the CIA's own assessment saying these are peaceful reactors, and at current developments, current rates of centrifuge enrichment, it would take them at least nine years and a few months to develop one A-bomb, then they'd have a lot of trouble delivering that anywhere.

00:04:38.000 We'll get into Israel when we get back, and then we'll shift gears to some of the police state developments here domestically.

00:04:45.000 Also, Ken Lay's disgusting funeral, a mysterious death of a banker connected to Enron, while three other Britons are being extradited today for scams in and around the Bank of Scotland.

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00:08:18.000 Kevin Barrett, who is a director and founding member of Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance for 9-11 Truth.

00:08:24.000 Welcome to this Thursday edition, 13th of July, 2006.

00:08:27.000 Kevin Barrett, who is a director and founding member of Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9-11 Truth.

00:08:38.000 He's also a member of 9-11 Scholars.

00:08:42.000 And he has been all over the Internet, all over radio, all over national television, exposing 9-11 as an inside job.

00:08:51.000 and he'll be joining us coming up in the...

00:08:55.000 Second hour today in the third hour we're going to go north to Canada where a national organization has decided to make it their main focus to fight the formation of the American Union.

00:09:07.000 It is big news in Canada all over their mainstream newspapers for the last three years.

00:09:12.000 It's now got an even bigger boost with the public announcements of the Bush administration To set up the American Union and the resulting fallout in our national press as the American people begin to actually find out that this is really happening.

00:09:27.000 So that's coming up.

00:09:29.000 In the third hour today with Connie Fogle joining us from Canada.

00:09:34.000 There have been several new big developments concerning the American Union as people begin to find out just how much control this new international body will have over the American people, the people of Canada and Mexico.

00:09:45.000 It's a total transfer from the American people to these unelected regional governors.

00:09:51.000 It's called tyranny, ladies and gentlemen.

00:09:53.000 It's called despotism. 0.89

00:09:54.000 It's called dictatorship of the elite, the alpha maggots over the people.

00:09:59.000 They are elite in name only. 0.98

00:10:00.000 They are elite in their wickedness and their corruption.

00:10:04.000 Getting back to Israel, Israel is now in a two-front war attacking multiple areas surrounding Israel. 0.83

00:10:11.000 It is, of course, being decried by nations like Greece that are historically anti-Muslim, anti-Arab.

00:10:22.000 Extremely anti-Turkey, because they've been invaded and captured and enslaved by the Turks several times.

00:10:29.000 They're even saying this is destabilizing the whole region, and foreign ministers from France, Russia, and other nations are saying this is pushing the world towards an all-out war in the region.

00:10:41.000 This is extremely serious.

00:10:43.000 Israel is imposing a blockade on Lebanon and they have bombed their main airport.

00:10:48.000 Israel is imposing a sea and air blockade on Lebanon.

00:10:50.000 A senior Israeli military official said Thursday, the official spoke after Israel aircraft bombed Beirut's international airport.

00:10:56.000 He spoke on a condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss military tactics with reporters.

00:11:01.000 Well, we don't even need Israeli defense officials to tell us what they're doing.

00:11:05.000 We can see the naval blockade.

00:11:07.000 We can see the bombardment going on.

00:11:09.000 We can see government buildings being blown up.

00:11:11.000 That's a minor footnote in these different reports.

00:11:16.000 Speaking of Greece, this is out of the Jerusalem Post.

00:11:18.000 Greece, Israel's using excessive, pointless force.

00:11:22.000 Greece on Thursday expressed serious concern over Israel's attacks in Lebanon and urged neighboring countries to show restraint.

00:11:28.000 Government spokesman Evangelos N.

00:11:32.000 Tenros also urged the Hezbollah to release Israeli soldiers held hostage.

00:11:36.000 Of course, as you know, ladies and gentlemen, already they grabbed a week ago, a week and a half ago, an Israeli soldier.

00:11:42.000 Now they've grabbed two more yesterday.

00:11:44.000 Reese expresses its serious concern and is intensely troubled Their minister told the Israelis it is vital to stop the situation worsening.

00:11:54.000 Hezbollah must immediately release the soldiers taken hostage.

00:11:57.000 He said at the same time Greece calls on the government of Israel to avoid the use of excessive pointless force which cannot provide a solution to the problem.

00:12:05.000 Greece has traditionally close ties with Arab countries but has also recently improved relations with Israel.

00:12:12.000 And that's kind of a deceptive little headline here out of the Jerusalem Post.

00:12:15.000 Greece is well known for Not being very friendly with Arab countries, at least in my experience and from what I've read.

00:12:24.000 But Israel is escalating things by design. 0.87

00:12:28.000 Olmert is in trouble in a big sexual harassment case.

00:12:32.000 Members of his cabinet are getting in trouble for bribes.

00:12:36.000 Tony Blair's chief fundraiser has now been arrested.

00:12:39.000 Bush is in trouble on a hundred plus different fronts.

00:12:43.000 They've said they want to escalate a war in the Middle East and invade Syria and Iran.

00:12:48.000 The path that Israel is now taking is directly into Syria. 0.73

00:12:51.000 They've been trying to blame Syria and claiming that Syria controls Hezbollah.

00:12:56.000 That is a complete fraud.

00:12:58.000 Even Haratz and UPI, both Israeli and U.S.

00:13:01.000 news wires have admitted that Israel founded Hamas, which again is very similar to Hezbollah back in 1973 as a counterbalance.

00:13:16.000 Jews, Christians, Palestinians lived in peace in that region for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, really over a thousand years.

00:13:24.000 And the Israelis have always sought to foment strife and warfare in the region as a pretext to continue the military government of Israel, the control of the press, and the oppression of the Israeli people themselves. 0.51

00:13:37.000 And UPI has also reported, as well as the Jerusalem Post, Going back to 2002, that Israel has been caught, Shembet has been caught, internally creating fake Al Qaeda terror groups who carry out bombings and shootings to then be blamed on the Palestinians and other neighbors as a pretext to then militarily attack them.

00:13:57.000 And I don't want the neocons listing the neocon brainwashed zombie followers to hiss and say I'm making this up. 0.94

00:14:03.000 Many of you are ignorant out there that support this administration and what Israel is doing. 0.94

00:14:08.000 If you'll simply go research, even the Jewish newspapers, the Israeli newspapers over there admit that much of the terrorism caught red-handed in the region is being carried out by Israel. 0.96

00:14:21.000 Now, that is just a fact.

00:14:23.000 Israel staged the USS Liberty event in collusion with our own government. 0.89

00:14:28.000 In 1967.

00:14:29.000 That is on the record.

00:14:31.000 Try to blame it on Egypt. 0.88

00:14:33.000 They have always wanted to have a greater Israel that goes into areas of Iraq, large sections of Syria, and this is what they're attempting to do right now. 0.77

00:14:46.000 They want an empire.

00:14:47.000 The U.S.

00:14:48.000 wants an empire.

00:14:49.000 It's Britain, the U.S. 0.92

00:14:50.000 and Israel allied together.

00:14:52.000 This is not the Interest of the American people, the interest of Israel, the interest of the British people. 0.63

00:14:59.000 This is the interest of elites that want that oil, that want control of that region.

00:15:04.000 And we have Israeli, U.S.

00:15:06.000 and British owned policy reports going back in the early 80s through the late 90s where they lay out this plan.

00:15:12.000 For Balkanized, fractured Arab countries, broken, depending on which nation, from two to six parts, Iraq they want in three or four parts, Saudi Arabia in three parts, they talk about putting Syria in three parts, breaking Lebanon into a couple more parts.

00:15:26.000 This is what the elites have been doing for the last hundred years.

00:15:30.000 The British attempted to do this and were successful a hundred years ago, starting a hundred years ago through to about eighty years ago.

00:15:37.000 It's an ongoing program.

00:15:38.000 They overthrew the elected government of Iran in 1953.

00:15:41.000 Using stage terror yet again.

00:15:43.000 That was the British MI6 and the CIA.

00:15:45.000 That's all declassified.

00:15:49.000 And we cover this in my film, Terror Storm, by the way.

00:15:53.000 So President Bush said today that Israel has the right to defend itself as it launched fresh attacks on Lebanon after the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.

00:16:03.000 Israeli soldiers are getting captured all the time.

00:16:05.000 This is a war.

00:16:06.000 Thousands and thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese and others get captured every year by the Israelis.

00:16:11.000 This is a war.

00:16:12.000 And again, I'm not defending the actions of some of the Arabs over there. 0.99

00:16:16.000 The point is, this is an ancient war That has flared up big time since Israel took over in the late 1940s early 1950s because the globalists believe they get order out of chaos and Israel clearly is behind many of the provocations that have caused escalation. 0.73

00:16:39.000 Clearly they are using the capture now of three soldiers as a pretext, as an excuse to widen the war.

00:16:47.000 They are now going to be driving towards the doorstep of Syria itself. 0.95

00:16:51.000 Israel is openly talking about going after, bombing Syria.

00:16:55.000 And then meanwhile, Iran, they can then claim Behind, and actually maybe in some cases, there's a mix in there.

00:17:03.000 There are some real Arab fighters, there are some real people launching military strikes on Israel in low-intensity conflict that Israel then deems as terrorism.

00:17:12.000 So again, however you cut this, this is war.

00:17:15.000 This is tribal, sectarian war between cousins, and any time the Arabs fight, or any time the Arabs attack, it is called terrorism.

00:17:26.000 When the Israelis fire a Hellfire missile into a school, or into a hospital, or into a mosque, or into a government building, and kill sometimes hundreds at a pop, it is called military strikes. 0.51

00:17:38.000 But when a Palestinian straps five pounds of explosives to their belly, and blows up a bus and kills twenty-something people, it's called terrorism. 0.75

00:17:49.000 Well, war itself is terror.

00:17:52.000 Bush laid the blame for the escalation of violence along the border on Hezbollah, whose guerrillas mounted a cross-border raid earlier in the week and captured the two soldiers.

00:18:02.000 He also said Syria needs to be held to account for supporting and harboring Hezbollah. 0.82

00:18:07.000 The soldiers need to be returned, the President said.

00:18:09.000 It's really sad where people are willing to take innocent life in order to stop the progress for peace. 0.98

00:18:14.000 As a matter of fact, it's pathetic. 0.96

00:18:16.000 Bush's comments came during a joint news conference with German Chancellor Merkel as Israeli intensified attacks in Lebanon. 0.98

00:18:24.000 So they're bombing Palestine, Lebanon...

00:18:27.000 They've got tanks, they've got the big howitzers, the big guns out there just blowing things to kingdom come.

00:18:32.000 They've got fighter bombers dropping bombs, they're blowing up airports, they're blowing up government buildings, and it is just absolutely disgusting.

00:18:42.000 It is a travesty to see this type of thing happening.

00:18:49.000 Now, I want to shift gears before We run out of time here and our guest joins us coming up in about 40 minutes and get into some other news.

00:19:01.000 I mentioned this but let's detail it.

00:19:03.000 This leads into Ken Lay and the new mysterious death of one of the bankers involved with Ken Lay who was about to be indicted.

00:19:10.000 Three of his cohorts are being extradited to the United States today for Enron connections and their sellout of energy companies to Enron.

00:19:19.000 The fellow that the evidence looks like he was murdered.

00:19:22.000 The police are saying they don't know a day into it.

00:19:26.000 It's down in the London Park.

00:19:28.000 But before we get into that, Blair Chief Fundraiser arrested by police.

00:19:33.000 Lord Levy, the Chief Fundraiser for Britain's Prime Minister, Tony Blair's Labour Party, has been arrested by police, probing allegations that state awards have been given in return for cash.

00:19:43.000 The Labour Party has come under pressure after it was said it received more than $40 million on loans for 12 businessmen, some of whom were nominated for seats in Britain's unelected Upper House of Parliament.

00:19:53.000 We'll be right back with the tales of the Enron murders.

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00:27:43.000 Oh my gosh!

00:27:44.000 There is just so much here, so much happening.

00:27:48.000 I'm almost...

00:27:49.000 floundering with all of this news here in front of me.

00:27:53.000 Let me just read excerpts of the article by Steve Watson.

00:27:56.000 We'll cover more of this after the break.

00:27:58.000 It's coming up in a long segment.

00:28:00.000 Are Enron bankers witnesses being murdered?

00:28:03.000 With the latest revelation that a body discovered in Northeast London is that of a banker intimately connected with the Enron fraud case, one has to begin to ask, why are these so many unexplained deaths linked to this case?

00:28:17.000 And even mainstream newspapers and publications and the BBC and others are asking if this is murder too, and asking if this is political hitch in an attempted cover-up.

00:28:28.000 I mean, this is really breaking big time.

00:28:31.000 The BBC is reporting that London police are treating the death of Neil Colbeck, who worked for the Royal Bank of Scotland until 2004, as unexplained.

00:28:39.000 Colbeck had been interviewed by the FBI as a potential witness.

00:28:42.000 The fraud case centers on a NatWest Transaction under which it sold off part of its Enron unit.

00:28:50.000 Three other NatWest bankers wanted by the US for involvement in the fraud case were facing extradition from the UK under laws designed for cases of terrorism that were passed after 9-11.

00:29:01.000 And it continues.

00:29:02.000 Is this becoming a case of too many unexplained deaths?

00:29:05.000 Spoiling a good cover-up?

00:29:07.000 In 2002, Enron Vice Chairman J. Clifford Baxter was found shot to death in his Mercedes Benz in the early hours of Friday morning, January 25th, near his home in Sugar Land, Texas.

00:29:18.000 The death was officially reported as a suicide, yet local Justice of the Peace, Jim Richard, initially declared that Baxter died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but then reversed himself, citing the intense public interest in the death.

00:29:30.000 There were many suspicious circumstances surrounding the death, including the moving of evidence, the tampering of the body, prior to the immediate investigation at the scene.

00:29:38.000 CBS reported he'd been shot with rat shot, which is what assassins use because it covers up any type of bullet forensics.

00:29:47.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:35.000 So we'll be going over that and individuals that could expose Enron who have been involved in the corruption are dropping dead like flies.

00:33:44.000 And of course now it's even on national British television, the majority of the Brits and even members of Parliament are going public, police are going public, that Dr. David Kelly was murdered.

00:33:52.000 It's the same thing with Vince Foster.

00:33:54.000 They kill you, it's obvious you were murdered, there's no blood at the scene, you know, they drag you out to a park and throw you there with carpet fibers all over you, you know, kill in some house.

00:34:05.000 It's the same story over and over again.

00:34:06.000 It's the same M.O.

00:34:07.000 I mean, if I'm ever found dead in a park with a gunshot wound in my head, please, ladies and gentlemen, I will never commit suicide.

00:34:14.000 I love life.

00:34:15.000 And even Baxter was saying, I'm not going to commit suicide.

00:34:18.000 I need a bodyguard.

00:34:19.000 I'm getting threats. 1.00

00:34:20.000 They blow his head off with the rat shot. 0.99

00:34:22.000 The mafia used to use a .22, but even that has some rifling. 0.99

00:34:27.000 Let's be technical.

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00:34:33.000 Not with a rat shot, folks. 0.98

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00:34:44.000 But you have those little BBs, they shoot right through the skull and absolutely make mincemeat out of your brain tissue. 0.91

00:34:52.000 But, again, I mean it's like Gary Webb's writing a new book about CIA drug dealing.

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00:35:13.000 So, again, I'm digressing.

00:35:15.000 I'm going to get into Enron in full detail, the funeral, the latest clear murder there in England of one of the minions involved in all of this who looked like he might have flipped over on his side and might have gone public.

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00:40:26.000 Alright, we'll take calls after I get into this news on Enron and there's multiple facets to this at 1-800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.

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00:40:39.000 But just running through the news and finishing up, are Enron bankers witnesses being murdered is the question.

00:40:49.000 Here's the BBC headline on this.

00:40:51.000 Enron witness found dead in a park and the police still, and this is the same MO every time, for a day or two they won't, they'll say, oh it's unexplained, we don't know how they died.

00:41:00.000 They won't tell you while they're busy telling the first detectives to get there with the official.

00:41:04.000 The story is that months later, detectives and others will go public like they have with Father David Kelly, who was found a few years ago dead in a park with his wrists slit, no blood at the scene, with two undigested painkiller pills in his stomach that they claimed killed him.

00:41:18.000 And then the police that showed up, who first showed up, said five men in black uniforms and black masks ran away from the body.

00:41:25.000 So, I mean, imagine if you got found dead in a park and five men in black masks ran away, and the police would say, oh, there's no foul play involved.

00:41:33.000 There's no blood, but we say they died from slit wrists and pills, but the pills aren't digested, and showing they've been crammed down his throat after he died, or right as he was dying.

00:41:44.000 And then there's no blood, so the clue didn't bleed to death, but that's okay, and five guys in black uniforms run away, but it's suicide.

00:41:53.000 Then he told an American colleague and a British colleague the week before, I've been told to shut up, quote, or I'm going to be found dead in the woods.

00:42:00.000 And then he's found dead in the woods, with five men running away in black outfits.

00:42:06.000 I mean, just come on, folks.

00:42:08.000 Come on. 0.97

00:42:08.000 And you go back to Vince Foster, it's even more ridiculous. 0.97

00:42:13.000 We look at the case of Jay Clifford Baxter, Enron Vice Chairman, says, I've been threatened, I'm not going to commit suicide, I need a bodyguard, he tells the police and friends this, and then he's found drug out of his house, quickly, in his underwear, a few blocks from his house, dead in a car, shot in the brain, with rack shot at point-blank range, which the mafia hitmen use. 0.91

00:42:33.000 Because there's no rifling, it's a bunch of VBs.

00:42:36.000 Again, it barely kills a rat from 15 feet away, but you shoot somebody at point blank range, it's more devastating than a slug, than a full metal jacket, than a hollow point.

00:42:45.000 It's about as deadly as it gets.

00:42:46.000 Like a sheer safety slug that the air marshals use, you shoot somebody with that, it goes in and just turns you into jelly.

00:42:55.000 Splatter, I don't want to get into details.

00:42:57.000 I've shot a lot of different things, you know, hunting and a lot of target practice back when I had time and shot You know, there's many different things from wet phone books to old cars, and I know what bullets do, and I know what rat shot does, and I've read that it's used by... I already said that five times.

00:43:12.000 You know it's used by the Mafia.

00:43:14.000 You can look that up.

00:43:16.000 So, that happens.

00:43:17.000 CBS also reported that experts found against several things highly unusual.

00:43:21.000 First, the particular ammunition, not regular bullets, but something called rat shot.

00:43:25.000 Ratshot is a type of ammunition that cannot be easily traced back to the weapon that fired it.

00:43:29.000 It is usually specifically fired at snakes.

00:43:31.000 Small pest is not found readily.

00:43:35.000 It goes on, furthermore, according to the New York Times, an unnamed associate added that Baxter was talking about perhaps needing a bodyguard just days before his attack.

00:43:45.000 That's from CBS.

00:43:47.000 Again, CBS is wrong.

00:43:49.000 Ratshot is found readily.

00:43:51.000 It's in every major The case remained open for months after his death.

00:43:57.000 Why would a very successful businessman one day be talking about needing someone to guard his life, and then the next day decide to end it?

00:44:04.000 Enron Vice Chairman Sharon Watkins, who warned top company officials that the energy trading giant might implode in a wave of accounting scandals, said she feared for her own life during the crisis that culminated in Enron's filing for bankruptcy.

00:44:19.000 Then, of course, there is the timely death by heart attack, we're told, of Enron founder Ken Lay earlier this month.

00:44:25.000 Lay was facing a lengthy jail sentence for conspiracy and fraud.

00:44:29.000 His death has erupted a firestorm of rumors.

00:44:31.000 Even the Miami Herald is questioning whether Lay has faked his own death.

00:44:35.000 Some have intimated that Lay's death, whether it be natural, faked, or terminated, Will ensure that his convictions be erased, leaving his family's fortunes and assets untainted and untouchable.

00:44:46.000 Other Enron executives and witnesses involved in the case have gone on record as saying they are scared to death of being intimately caught up in the case.

00:44:54.000 Why would this individual, convicted of all these felonies, what was it, six counts?

00:45:01.000 Five counts of conspiracy and one count of something else.

00:45:03.000 Why would they let him wait months and months for sentencing at his ski lodge?

00:45:10.000 At Aspen.

00:45:11.000 And then a week after he dies, Colin Powell is having dinner with the Clintons and collapses and has to go to the very same hospital.

00:45:17.000 A lot of weird stuff going on in Denmark.

00:45:20.000 Other Enron executives said witnesses involved in the case have gone on record saying they are scared to death of being intimately caught up in the case or killed.

00:45:29.000 So it goes on and on.

00:45:32.000 We go from that and the mysterious death in England to these three individuals tied up with selling in a big scam, selling off Enron control companies divisions in England.

00:45:43.000 They're being extradited right now.

00:45:44.000 I think I'm told they've been put on an airplane to be flown to D.C.

00:45:49.000 where they've been indicted for scams with Enron.

00:45:54.000 One of the people involved in testifying about this has been questioned by the FBI again.

00:45:57.000 He's found dead.

00:45:58.000 Meanwhile, we move into the ultra bizarro world of Ken Lay being compared to Martin Luther King and Jesus.

00:46:08.000 Ken Lay's memorial attracts power elite.

00:46:11.000 George H.W.

00:46:12.000 Bush, James Baker, among attendees at Pack Church for the Enron founder, the reverend compared fallen energy titan to Jesus.

00:46:23.000 So that's the CNN Money headline and sub-headline.

00:46:28.000 Reuters, Houston's political and business leaders, including former President George H.W.

00:46:32.000 Bush, Turned out for Ken Lay's memorial service yesterday, less than a week after the Enron founder's sudden death.

00:46:39.000 Friends and family, lauded as a devout Christian and a family leader, the man who built Enron into an international energy powerhouse before its collapse and the biggest corporate scandal of its time.

00:46:50.000 Lay's stepson, David Harold, told the nearly full First Methodist Church that Lay was wrongly convicted and he was angry about the portrayals of his stepfather in the media.

00:47:02.000 He did have a strong faith in God and I know he's in heaven and I'm glad he's not in a position anymore to be whipped by his enemy, Harold said.

00:47:11.000 Who's the enemy?

00:47:13.000 Thousands of Enron employees have their pensions stolen, or the millions of stockholders who were robbed as you transferred it all to offshore accounts.

00:47:21.000 Enron, of course, is a big money laundering, drug dealing operation.

00:47:24.000 It was involved in so much organized crime.

00:47:26.000 Lay, who was 64, died while vacationing in Colorado on July 5th, just six days after a jury convicted him and former Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling on conspiracy and fraud in 2001 and the collapse of the energy company.

00:47:39.000 And I was wrong.

00:47:40.000 At first, it was six counts I read.

00:47:42.000 This is ten.

00:47:43.000 Lay was found guilty on ten counts of conspiracy, fraud, and misusing personal bank loans on May 25th, and was facing decades in prison at his sentencing, which was scheduled for October 23rd.

00:47:56.000 So you give the guy months and months and months and months and months to then be sentenced.

00:48:00.000 The Reverend Dr. Bill Lawson compared Lay with Civil Rights leader Martin Luther King and Jesus Christ and said his name would eventually be cleared.

00:48:10.000 I'm really holding my nose reading and hearing all this.

00:48:13.000 Let's talk about what Ken Lay, what we know he did.

00:48:16.000 They had their California Energy Western Trading Division and of course Enron everyday would just set the price of the coal oil, the gas, gasoline, unrefined oil in the refineries and the pipelines and down to the trucks and the delivery.

00:48:37.000 This is all on record.

00:48:38.000 This is all admitted.

00:48:39.000 We have their own documents.

00:48:40.000 Those they didn't shred has been testified to.

00:48:42.000 They took members of the California legislature, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, even Canadian officials, U.S.

00:48:52.000 Congress members, on multiple trips through, quote, the Enron trading room.

00:49:00.000 And it was fake Fake trading setup with all these computers hooked up with fake big boards and just false numbers.

00:49:08.000 They just chose the price at the end of the day and totally scammed people.

00:49:15.000 In one month they built California alone out of nine billion in extra charges.

00:49:22.000 That is just one little case.

00:49:27.000 Of the total level of fraud and lies and false reality hoaxing that Enron was involved in. 0.75

00:49:37.000 And then the Colorado based Arthur Anderson accounting firm with all of its ridiculous scamming. 0.88

00:49:44.000 I mean, Enron was just a huge, huge criminal outfit. 0.63

00:49:48.000 And Alberto Gonzales, of course, worked for them.

00:49:50.000 He's now our Attorney General.

00:49:51.000 Bush was intimately involved, running their scams with them when he was Governor out of Texas through his first year and a half of his administration as President.

00:50:02.000 And now Kinlay is compared to Jesus.

00:50:07.000 Yes, the preacher, the Reverend, compared him to Jesus Christ.

00:50:14.000 This is the type of sick jokes that they foist, that they hoist, that they peddle, that they shove off, that they dump, as they attempt to bamboozle the American people.

00:50:30.000 So now, if you don't like Ken Lay, you're not a good Christian, and you don't love Jesus, is basically what they're saying.

00:50:36.000 Organized criminals, where things got out of control with their scams, they didn't manage it properly, it blew open, And frankly, in my gut, I don't think he's dead, folks.

00:50:49.000 I mean, the government fakes deaths all the time to Special Forces soldiers who they want to change their identities.

00:50:53.000 I mean, that's declassified.

00:50:55.000 So don't think for a minute they don't do this with billionaire energy moguls.

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00:54:54.000 Let's go ahead now and take a few calls before our guest joins us at the 5 after.

00:55:02.000 I have my call list here in front of me.

00:55:04.000 I could use the instant message on the computer, but I don't.

00:55:07.000 Who's up first?

00:55:08.000 Jeff in California, go ahead.

00:55:10.000 Yeah, Alex, I know you guys talk about different diseases and illnesses and vaccines and stuff like that.

00:55:20.000 I just wanted to make a comment about, I don't know if anybody remembers this, and I think it really plays an important part of what's going on today.

00:55:27.000 Four Corners, the Four Corners area, which includes the states of Utah, Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico.

00:55:37.000 What happened was, this was back in 1993, and I think it coincides with what's happening related to the bird flu illness.

00:55:45.000 Navajo Nation, Indian Reservation is now the decommissioned Army munitions base at Fort Wingate.

00:55:52.000 It's about 30 miles east of Gallup, New Mexico.

00:55:56.000 What happened was, back in 1993, there were several Indians, Navajo Indians, that died of what was first a mysterious flu-like illness.

00:56:07.000 And what happened was, many concerned citizens who didn't believe the government's official version of the epidemic is propagated by the CIA-controlled media, Didn't they claim that that came from rats?

00:56:20.000 Yeah, exactly Alex.

00:56:21.000 And what it was, they didn't believe the medical or military establishment.

00:56:25.000 And of course, you know, the answers that they gave, as in many publicized cases of mysterious death, like the Legionnaire's Disease back in Philadelphia in the late 70s, you know, are just as elusive, basically.

00:56:42.000 Well, the Navajo Indians, they were calling it the Navajo Flu or the Navajo Disease.

00:56:48.000 No whole Indians didn't like that.

00:56:49.000 They forced the national press to rename the epidemic, the mysterious illness of the Four Corners disease.

00:56:56.000 And you're exactly right.

00:56:58.000 It became what they were claiming it came from was the mice.

00:57:02.000 And these people fell victim to a suddenly new version of what was being called a newer, more deadlier class of viral mutations.

00:57:14.000 Yes, I remember, and I appreciate your call.

00:57:17.000 I don't know about that specific case.

00:57:20.000 I mean, new diseases do develop and we do get things from different animals that are similar to us in their metabolic system.

00:57:32.000 Everybody always talks about things that we can't prove one way or the other.

00:57:34.000 And I'm not saying we shouldn't look at mysteries.

00:57:36.000 Mysteries are always interesting and the brain likes a riddle.

00:57:40.000 What about Project Shad from the 1960s until the 1980s?

00:57:45.000 Killing U.S., killing British troops.

00:57:47.000 I mean, BBC reported, AP's reported, they'll have people go stand out in the field, the plane flies over and nerve gas troops and some die right there. 0.82

00:57:55.000 Or having a young British officer march into a chamber, tell them they're going to test a flu bug on him for his country.

00:58:02.000 He's volunteered and they hit him with nerve gas and he dies and they dissect the body and take body parts and ship them back to his parents and say he died of the flu and here's the sign for him he agreed to.

00:58:11.000 I mean, that's all declassified and public.

00:58:13.000 They've sprayed chemical and biological weapons on New York, San Francisco.

00:58:18.000 They've done it thousands of times.

00:58:20.000 It's been declassified just in aerial spraying over 1,300 declassifications in 1976, from the 40s through the 70s.

00:58:29.000 And it's just ongoing.

00:58:31.000 So there's so many examples of the government murdering us.

00:58:35.000 I mean, it's just like Bayer, only with the AIDS virus.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

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00:58:45.000 Big Brother.

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00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:53.000 You want answers?

00:58:55.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:59:02.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 Well, Israel is attacking Lebanon, blowing up government facilities, bombing the airport, putting in an air and land in putting in an air and land in the naval blockade.

00:59:35.000 We're also attacking areas of Palestine. 0.98

00:59:37.000 We'll get more into that coming up in the next hour.

00:59:38.000 We'll be talking to Dr. Kevin Barrett, who is a professor and who heads up the Muslim Christian Jewish group that is all working together to expose 9-11 as an inside job. 0.95

00:59:53.000 And so he's coming up after this first break.

00:59:56.000 Right now, let's go to Nick in California, then Mike in Pennsylvania and others.

00:59:59.000 Nick, you're on the air.

01:00:00.000 Hey, Alex.

01:00:01.000 Hi.

01:00:03.000 It's an honor to meet you.

01:00:04.000 You're my hero.

01:00:05.000 Well, okay.

01:00:06.000 Well, thank you.

01:00:07.000 I'm just trying to do my job, sir.

01:00:09.000 Have you ever heard the quote from George H.W.

01:00:12.000 Bush in 1992 saying that if the people ever found out what we did, we'd be lynched in the street?

01:00:19.000 Yes, I've heard that quote.

01:00:22.000 Well, I think it has a lot... You've got a call waiting.

01:00:27.000 Somebody's calling you.

01:00:28.000 You need to repeat what you said.

01:00:31.000 It has a lot to do with the Enron thing.

01:00:34.000 Well, yes it does.

01:00:37.000 Much of the stock market, much of the derivatives, many of these companies, there's no reality based on the numbers and the things they post.

01:00:45.000 It's just a total scam.

01:00:49.000 Anything else on your mind, Nick?

01:00:52.000 Yeah, there's plenty of it.

01:00:54.000 You know, it's just like they killed JFK Jr.

01:00:57.000 in 1999.

01:00:58.000 The Bush fingerprints are all over it.

01:01:00.000 Because he was going to spill the beans in his magazine, On who killed his father.

01:01:05.000 And they're just getting rid of all these Enron witnesses like the same thing.

01:01:10.000 I know, and it really becomes an open secret.

01:01:13.000 It's kind of a threat to everyone. 0.99

01:01:14.000 Yeah, we'll kill you, we'll have the police come up on the murderers, they'll run off, and then we'll still say that you committed suicide. 0.98

01:01:24.000 I mean, pretty soon they'll blow people's heads off on national TV, or Bush will take a hatchet and hack someone's head up right in front of everyone, and then they'll say that the person fell downstairs. 0.99

01:01:34.000 I mean, I'm being sarcastic, but that's how ridiculous it's starting to get. 0.87

01:01:41.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:01:41.000 Yeah, thank you for the call.

01:01:42.000 Let's talk to Mike in Pennsylvania.

01:01:44.000 Mike, go ahead.

01:01:44.000 You're on the air.

01:01:45.000 Hey, Alex.

01:01:47.000 How you doing?

01:01:47.000 Good.

01:01:48.000 Hey, just letting you know, I'm pretty new to this.

01:01:54.000 I just got woken up, to the truth, about a few weeks ago.

01:01:58.000 I watched the loose change video that's on the internet about 9-11.

01:02:02.000 That's been waking a lot of people up.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, and then I got I was told about you and InfoWars.com and I watch a lot of your videos online.

01:02:13.000 I'm sorry, I don't have the money to be purchasing your videos right now.

01:02:17.000 Yes sir, we authorize people to make copies.

01:02:20.000 We want you to see them.

01:02:21.000 So please don't apologize for something we want to thank you for.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, a few quick things.

01:02:28.000 Did you call C-SPAN this morning?

01:02:31.000 No I didn't.

01:02:32.000 Okay, it sounded just like you.

01:02:36.000 Well what happened?

01:02:38.000 This guy from, uh, I think he's from New Jersey, named Saxon, was calling.

01:02:43.000 He must have said something, um, talking about the ideology of the terrorists, you know, and talking about how the Arabs are the ones responsible for 9-11 and that the whole war is against an ideology and everything like that.

01:02:57.000 Okay, and what happened?

01:02:57.000 What happened?

01:02:59.000 Oh, well, the gentleman, he just, uh, totally, he was like, Everything that you're saying is anti-American.

01:03:07.000 So a caller called in and what happened?

01:03:10.000 Nothing.

01:03:11.000 I was just wondering if it was you.

01:03:12.000 Okay, well why did you think it was me?

01:03:14.000 What did the caller say?

01:03:17.000 He said that... It sounded like a quote exactly from you.

01:03:22.000 You were like, straight from the Constitution, that we are given our God-given rights.

01:03:31.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

01:03:33.000 No, I'm not... I didn't call C-SPAN, but people should start calling on the air, on the live shows, and telling them to air the panel discussion that they came and videotaped two and a half weeks ago.

01:03:46.000 Almost three weeks ago.

01:03:48.000 Alright, we'll be right back.

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01:07:00.000 Dr. Kevin Barrett has a Ph.D.

01:07:09.000 from the University of Wisconsin in Madison in African Languages and Literature in Arabic.

01:07:14.000 In November of 2004, he founded the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9-11 Truth.

01:07:18.000 Barrett explains his decision to move from literature to activism by citing several different reports by the Israeli intellectual, an endorser who moved from Russia literature to activism in response to Ariel Sharon's outrages of 2001.

01:07:34.000 We have links to the organization That Dr. Barrett founded up on Infowars.com.

01:07:43.000 You can link through over to their Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance for 9-11 Truth.

01:07:50.000 That was one of the co-sponsors of the big 9-11 symposium that I attended.

01:07:54.000 That was a keynote speaker back in early June in Chicago.

01:08:00.000 In a few minutes here we're going to play the clip from him a few nights ago.

01:08:05.000 On Hannity and Combs, I think you did a pretty good job in standing up to these individuals, especially Hannity.

01:08:11.000 So let's go ahead and go to Dr. Kevin Barnett.

01:08:15.000 He's also a Muslim since 1992 and has taught Islam, English, French, Arabic, Humanities, African Literature, American Civilization, and Folklore at colleges and universities in San Francisco, Bay Area, Paris, Madison, Wisconsin.

01:08:27.000 Dr. Barnett, thanks for coming on with us.

01:08:29.000 Hey, thank you, Alex.

01:08:30.000 I'm really pleased to be with you.

01:08:32.000 You bet, my friend.

01:08:33.000 Let's, just before we play this Hannity and Combs piece, how did you wake up to 9-11, why did you form this organization, and why did you join Scholars for 9-11 Truth?

01:08:43.000 Well, you know, Alex, I have to admit I'm a little slower than you.

01:08:46.000 I mean, you were, you know, you were on top of it before it happened.

01:08:48.000 It took me two years after it happened to figure it out.

01:08:51.000 I mean, I saw there were a whole lot of anomalies in the official story, but I just thought, well, you know, we'll never know.

01:08:56.000 I'm sure maybe it was an inside job.

01:08:58.000 It wasn't until I saw Terry Mason, the French guy who wrote about the Pentagon, what may have hit it, on Al Jazeera TV, debating this guy from the Pentagon, and just making mincemeat of him, that I said, hey, this is interesting, okay?

01:09:14.000 At the beginning of the show, the poll was running 75% of the respondents say U.S.

01:09:19.000 government did 9-11, and 25% say it was Al Qaeda.

01:09:23.000 And by the end of that show, it was up to 89-11.

01:09:27.000 I said, man, you know, that Pentagon suit was just throwing insults at Maison.

01:09:31.000 He didn't have any evidence, and Maison had a lot of evidence.

01:09:34.000 There's something interesting going on here.

01:09:35.000 So that awakened my interest.

01:09:37.000 And then, when I heard David Griffin was doing his book, I had to start looking into it myself.

01:09:42.000 Because, you know, I know Griffin from way back as a brilliant philosopher and theologian, and I cited his stuff in my dissertation.

01:09:49.000 So I said, yeah, he's looking into this, and he's saying there's really evidence for inside jobs.

01:09:54.000 He may be right.

01:09:55.000 I better take a look at myself.

01:09:56.000 I did, and lo and behold, it's just pretty amazing and in your face, isn't it?

01:10:02.000 It is.

01:10:02.000 Tell us a little bit about this Fox News piece before we play it.

01:10:07.000 Okay, yeah, I've been in the middle of this controversy dating back about ten days or so, when I got ambushed by a right-wing, well, I should say a Bushite, A talk show host named Jessica McBride, who called me up in the afternoon and said, oh, would you like to be on my show tonight?

01:10:22.000 I hear you're doing really interesting work.

01:10:23.000 Could you send me a syllabus so I can see what you teach?

01:10:25.000 And so I sent it to her.

01:10:26.000 And I got on her show at 8 o'clock that night, and she introduced me as Wisconsin's Ward Churchill, an evil man who's teaching horrible things to our innocent children.

01:10:37.000 So she was trying to start a controversy and be the darling and be on TV. 1.00

01:10:41.000 Exactly.

01:10:42.000 And then the very next morning, this guy Steve Nass, The local troglodyte in the Wisconsin legislature came out with a press release calling for me to be fired.

01:10:52.000 Now, Steve Nass is not really that quick of a thinker, and so it seems to me that the fact that he had this press release out the very next morning after this radio show suggested to me that he and McBride had gotten together and kind of set me up in an attempt to get Nass' name into the papers and also to get McBride some ratings.

01:11:11.000 It's backfired on them since then.

01:11:13.000 I've been fighting back and having a real good time doing it, and this fight has kind of gotten bigger and bigger, and I ended up on Fox.

01:11:21.000 If you can prove a conspiracy to try to get you fired, chivalry, there are very serious penalties.

01:11:28.000 Well, yeah, and that's why I've been asking some of the journalists around here to look into this and, you know, go ask this NASS guy whether he had discussed this with Jessica McBride before my radio show.

01:11:41.000 Uh, because he's been indicating that he just happened to hear it on the radio.

01:11:44.000 And I'm not sure that's necessarily the case, and if it isn't, and if he's been misleading the public about this, then not only is he wasting the taxpayer's dollars, but he's also, um, engaging in some pretty deceitful behavior that could even, you know, get bringing some civil- Well, that's what neo-cons do.

01:11:59.000 They collude with each other, they sneak around, they conspire.

01:12:03.000 Let's go ahead and play the Hannity and Combs piece, and then we'll be right back with you, Doctor.

01:12:09.000 Here it is.

01:12:10.000 This is from, what was this, Monday or Tuesday night?

01:12:13.000 Oh, which, you know, I'm forgetting it.

01:12:15.000 It was just a few nights ago.

01:12:17.000 I believe it was Tuesday night.

01:12:18.000 It's posted on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

01:12:22.000 Here it is.

01:12:23.000 It's happening, you know, largely through this false flag terrorism.

01:12:27.000 It looks to me like, you know, not only 9-11, but also Madrid 7-7, the Bali hotel bombing, and probably most of these so-called Zarqawi-style bombings in Iraq are all false flag operations being carried out by, you know, a special wing of probably US or Western military intelligence.

01:12:48.000 That was University of Wisconsin Professor Kevin Barrett, who has recently drawn criticism for plans to teach an Islamic Studies course next fall that will incorporate conspiracy theories that the U.S.

01:12:58.000 government was involved in the events of September 11th.

01:13:00.000 Professor Barrett joins us now.

01:13:02.000 Professor, can you give us the context within which you teach this course?

01:13:07.000 Well, yeah, sure.

01:13:07.000 I'm teaching an introductory course on Islam.

01:13:10.000 And I think it's really important to cover these contemporary political issues.

01:13:15.000 And one of them is, of course, the so-called War on Terror.

01:13:18.000 Now, the fact is that the great majority of the world's Muslims believe that 9-11 was an inside job.

01:13:23.000 But that's your opinion, right?

01:13:25.000 Well, no, that'd be a... You're offering your opinion that it was an inside job.

01:13:28.000 Well, after studying the evidence pretty intensively for two and a half years, I am convinced that 9-11 was in fact an inside job.

01:13:34.000 Are students required to regurgitate that in some way in order to do well in your class?

01:13:39.000 Of course they're not. 0.98

01:13:39.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98

01:13:40.000 No, I'm not interested in making students regurgitate anything. 0.81

01:13:43.000 I'm interested in training people how to use critical thinking skills to look at the evidence in any area and come to their own conclusions.

01:13:49.000 Is this a required class?

01:13:50.000 I hope they'll be able to do that.

01:13:52.000 No, it's not.

01:13:53.000 So this is basically an elective class.

01:13:56.000 How much of the time is spent focusing on who caused 9-11?

01:14:01.000 Only about one week.

01:14:02.000 We're looking at the war on terror for one week, and in fact it's not focusing on who caused it, it's looking at the main interpretations of 9-11.

01:14:08.000 And there are really several different ways of looking at 9-11, and one of them of course is the standard American story of the war on terror that changed everything.

01:14:18.000 It set us at war.

01:14:20.000 You objectively put forth that view as well as the view of how you perceive Muslims viewing us.

01:14:24.000 - Those things have been planned before 9/11.

01:14:26.000 Every one of those things was put in place before 9/11. - Professor, let me ask you, do you objectively put forth that view as well as the view of how you perceive Muslims viewing us?

01:14:34.000 Are they presented in a fair and balanced manner?

01:14:37.000 In the classroom, I always present things in a fair and balanced manner.

01:14:37.000 Of course.

01:14:40.000 Outside the classroom, when I'm an activist or a satirist, I'll tell it like it is.

01:14:45.000 Inside the classroom, I'll present all of the defensible interpretations and let the students use their own critical reasoning skills to come to their own conclusions.

01:14:54.000 All right, Mr. Barrett, Sean Hannity here.

01:14:55.000 Do you really believe that 9-11 was an inside job, not just 9-11, but Madrid and Bali and the Zakao operation?

01:15:02.000 Well, you know, actually... Hang on a second.

01:15:04.000 Do you believe, personally, That these are inside jobs, yes or no?

01:15:11.000 It's not quite that simple.

01:15:12.000 I do know, I don't believe, I know that 9-11 was an inside job.

01:15:16.000 Professor Stephen Jones has found residue of hermaphrodite on the steel samples from the World Trade Center.

01:15:21.000 We now know that it was taken down in a controlled demolition.

01:15:24.000 So you believe that the buildings came down in a controlled demolition?

01:15:28.000 I've looked at the evidence and the evidence is overwhelming.

01:15:28.000 Well, I don't believe it.

01:15:31.000 Alright, the evidence is overwhelming to you because you're a conspiracy nut, but put all that aside.

01:15:34.000 No, actually, all of you, I ask your viewers to take a look at this evidence for themselves.

01:15:38.000 They can go to st911.org, that's Dallas for 9-11 Proof.

01:15:40.000 Take a look, take a look at the demolition.

01:15:42.000 That's dollars for 9/11 proof. 0.51

01:15:44.000 Take a look.

01:15:45.000 Take a look at the demolition.

01:15:47.000 Morgan Reynolds, the former Bush administration official, says that the Bush administration blew the World Trade Center to kingdom come.

01:15:57.000 That's a direct quote from a member of the Bush administration itself.

01:16:00.000 They blew the World Trade Center to kingdom come.

01:16:02.000 The Jews were told to leave. 0.72

01:16:03.000 We've heard a lot of these sick, bizarre theories.

01:16:06.000 I don't believe any of them, but you're allowed to believe what you want, but that's not what's at hand here.

01:16:10.000 The issue is whether or not you, with your bizarre theories, are the best.

01:16:15.000 I think you have the bizarre theories.

01:16:16.000 You think it was 19 guys with box cutters led by a guy with dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan? 0.99

01:16:22.000 That's ridiculous. 0.78

01:16:24.000 I mean, that's the craziest conspiracy theory of all of them. 0.94

01:16:27.000 I wish I had the Twilight Zone music.

01:16:27.000 Okay.

01:16:29.000 Now, here's my next question.

01:16:30.000 The issue that is at hand here, you're entitled to have your opinion.

01:16:33.000 I don't really care what you believe.

01:16:35.000 But if we're talking about a captive group of students in a classroom... I'm not going to hold them captive.

01:16:41.000 Hang on a second.

01:16:42.000 Well, they're sitting in your classroom.

01:16:43.000 And you have a position of authority.

01:16:46.000 I'm wondering, the question is whether or not you're the most competent to teach them. 0.98

01:16:50.000 And most people think you're a nut.

01:16:52.000 Most people think you're using that anymore than listening. 0.94

01:16:53.000 Well, actually, no, they don't.

01:16:54.000 We just had a poll here in Madison, and we found that 90% of the respondents at Channel 3000 poll said that I should be allowed to teach.

01:17:02.000 Only 10% said I should.

01:17:03.000 Well, but that's the question again.

01:17:04.000 I agree that that's the question.

01:17:05.000 60%!

01:17:05.000 I don't think what your views are... 60% agreed with me about the questions I'm raising about 9-11.

01:17:09.000 60% of the respondents.

01:17:12.000 I don't think this is the proper forum, though, for people that hold extremist views like yourself.

01:17:17.000 No, you guys are extremists. 0.67

01:17:19.000 Fox News is the biggest bunch of extremists on the planet.

01:17:21.000 But reasonable people see you as an extremist, and I don't think you're the most appropriate guy to teach that class.

01:17:26.000 I don't think you're the most appropriate guy to be on the airwaves doing your venom throughout this country.

01:17:32.000 I think you guys should be taken off the airwaves.

01:17:34.000 Oh, you want to silence the conservative voice.

01:17:36.000 We don't want to silence anybody.

01:17:37.000 Your teacher will do anything.

01:17:38.000 Thank you, Professor.

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01:17:41.000 Now, of course, you're being flippant.

01:17:44.000 He's saying you shouldn't be teaching the class.

01:17:45.000 You're saying back to him, well, then you shouldn't be on the air.

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01:17:49.000 They're saying, take your free speech away.

01:17:52.000 And then you say, OK, we'll take yours away, too.

01:17:54.000 And oh, my gosh, he's evil.

01:17:55.000 He wants to take free speech.

01:17:56.000 That's double think.

01:17:58.000 And they try to twist it.

01:17:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:00.000 I mean the majority, and we'll come back and talk about this, we've got a break right now, Doctor, but I just want to get this out right now.

01:18:08.000 The vast majority of Americans now, 48% believe the government carried out the attacks, 68% believe that there's a cover-up, a minority then doesn't buy into reality and buys into the official government fairy tale.

01:18:22.000 But they try to keep making the issue about how you're teaching this in school.

01:18:26.000 All you're teaching is look at the different views in the world.

01:18:30.000 And if the majority of people in the world, even higher in Muslim countries, it's like 90%, believe it's an inside job, and this is a Muslim studies class, then you absolutely should be looking at this. 0.98

01:18:42.000 And I know that actually the vast majority of your course, so this section on it, actually gives the government view.

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01:22:48.000 Talking to Professor Dr. Kevin Barrett.

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01:23:05.000 We're honored to have him for the full hour.

01:23:08.000 Doctor, they hate having to have people like you and myself on national television, Dr. Bob Bowman, many others, but I don't know.

01:23:20.000 But they're having to respond now, and you notice they're panicked, they're upset, because the majority of Americans now know the truth, and it is snowballing.

01:23:30.000 Right now it's growing exponentially, and they are beginning to panic.

01:23:33.000 And then last night they had Dr. Bob Bowman on hand, and he kept saying, there was no controlled demolition, we saw the airplanes, as if that proves something.

01:23:40.000 Of course the government used airplanes.

01:23:42.000 So they're building straw man right in front of us, but comment on that exchange with you and Hannity, the ultra-liberal.

01:23:49.000 He's not really a conservative, it's all a false paradigm.

01:23:51.000 I mean, he supports Bush, he's for the biggest government ever.

01:23:54.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

01:23:56.000 You know, I keep telling people 9-11 is not about right versus left, it's right versus wrong.

01:24:00.000 But I agree with you that the whole right-left paradigm, you know, which dates back to the French Revolution, doesn't really apply anymore.

01:24:06.000 And I think it makes a lot more sense to look at things in terms of people who are trying to put together a huge oppressive government, and people who are trying to keep that from happening.

01:24:16.000 And I'm definitely on the side of the latter.

01:24:18.000 Uh, and Hannity and Combs, I mean, they're pretty much the dukes of these Trotskyite neocons.

01:24:22.000 I mean, these neocons are not conservative.

01:24:24.000 I mean, they're, you know, Trotskyites and Jacobins. 0.97

01:24:27.000 They're just, you know, trying to set up a new myth that will allow this elite of self-proclaimed supermen to ride Rough shot over everybody else and control us forever and I think it's time to stand up against that in whatever way we can.

01:24:44.000 And I'm glad that their attempt to silence me has actually provided a voice for our side.

01:24:50.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:24:52.000 What's the response you've gotten since you went on the show?

01:24:56.000 It's been amazingly good, especially if you count the people who saw it on the internet.

01:25:00.000 But even among people who just happened upon it on Fox News or Fox TV, it's running over 50% in my favor.

01:25:08.000 About 60% I would guess.

01:25:10.000 If you throw in the people who caught it on the internet, it's like 95% in my favor.

01:25:14.000 Of course, the other 5% are all these illiterate people who are thrown around obscenities and death threats, but 95% are a lot more literate and articulate, which tells you something.

01:25:29.000 Well, the neocons have a problem.

01:25:30.000 They try to claim it's evil liberals saying the government carried out 9-11.

01:25:33.000 No, we know the Democrats and Republicans are owned, the leadership is, by the very same crime syndicates.

01:25:38.000 Really, some of the strongest people from day one exposing 9-11 have been paleo-conservatives, true conservatives.

01:25:45.000 Absolutely, and I try to make that point as often as I can.

01:25:48.000 Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to make that on Fox News, but it's true. 0.94

01:25:53.000 Some of the best, strongest voices in 9-11 truth Are these true conservatives, people who really want to preserve the good side of our tradition?

01:26:02.000 Things like our Constitution, our tradition of limited government, our avoidance of getting entangled in foreign wars, our preservation of individual liberty against collectivism?

01:26:14.000 I mean, these are all the basic tenets of real conservatism.

01:26:18.000 Well, I couldn't agree with you more on that statement.

01:26:21.000 Where do you think this is going in the future?

01:26:22.000 like Morgan Reynolds and Steve Jones and Paul Craig Roberts stand for.

01:26:27.000 Well, I couldn't agree with you more on that statement.

01:26:32.000 Where do you think this is going in the future?

01:26:33.000 I mean, it really seems the 9/11 Truth Movement is speeding up to warp speed right now, and beginning to see in their body language and their statements and their news articles panic.

01:26:44.000 At the same time, a lot of establishment writers and folks are coming over to our side.

01:26:48.000 I mean, that Vanity Fair article about loose change, second edition, they wrote a huge hit piece on myself two years ago.

01:26:54.000 This piece, a different author, was leaning towards them as positive.

01:26:58.000 Well, you know, it looks like the world is starting to catch up to you, Alex.

01:27:01.000 I understand that you actually were hip to 9-11 before it happened.

01:27:04.000 And, you know, being that far ahead of the crowd, I suppose, has its good side and its bad side.

01:27:10.000 but it must be nice to see more and more people catching up to you.

01:27:14.000 Well, that's been my main mission, is to spread the word about government-sponsored terrorism for about 10 years.

01:27:19.000 I've been on air for 12, but about 10 years ago I figured out government-sponsored terror was their key.

01:27:23.000 I mean, this is nothing new.

01:27:24.000 Oh, that's for sure, yeah.

01:27:26.000 And it makes sense.

01:27:27.000 You just have to think about it.

01:27:29.000 People have a built-in aversion to killing other people, and The only way that people pretty much feel okay about killing another human being is if they're being attacked.

01:27:39.000 And that means that if there's a government that's stronger than some other group and wants to go attack them and steal their stuff, they have to frame the coming war as a defensive operation.

01:27:52.000 And to do that, of course, they have to make it look like they were attacked.

01:27:57.000 And hence the basic, you know, false flag war trigger attack, which is as old as history.

01:28:02.000 Also, of course, violence creates this need for some protection from the violence.

01:28:08.000 And so the government, which is, you know, the place they want to get the money and the prestige.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, they want to be the heroes.

01:28:16.000 I mean, it's so sick to watch the people that carried out 9-11 grandstanding as the heroes and hugging and kissing widows.

01:28:23.000 I mean, it literally has made me nauseous, Doctor.

01:28:26.000 It is, it is sickening, isn't it?

01:28:27.000 It's like watching Ted Bundy bust some innocent person after he's killed ten people and, you know, then he sends them to the electric chair and he pulls the lever, talking about how he's killing a bad person when he made all the murders.

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01:36:01.000 Kevin, any facets of 9-11 you want to cover?

01:36:05.000 Any facets of the attack on Iraq and what Israel's doing right now, rampaging around there in the Middle East, trying to escalate, as many foreign ministers are saying, into a full-bore regional war that could tip off World War III.

01:36:20.000 The White House is even saying that, of course loving it every minute.

01:36:23.000 This is the provocation to go into Syria, it looks like. 0.91

01:36:26.000 Give us your take on that and any other issues you think are important.

01:36:29.000 Well Alex, I think that it's just horrendous the way these neoconservatives have taken over our government through their 9-11 coup d'etat, and now they're heading straight towards world war.

01:36:40.000 They want to have a world war.

01:36:42.000 And the reason for it, as far as I can determine, is that they figure that, well, U.S.

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01:36:49.000 And we can just go in and pulverize the Middle East and Central Asia and take over that key part of the grand chessboard and enforce a hundred-year American right on the world. 0.94

01:37:01.000 Well, I mean, this is a nutty vision, and I think it's partly informed by the concern for Israel's continued expansion and ethnic cleansing on the part of some of these neoconservatives who, I think, are at least as interested in Israel's so-called security as in America's.

01:37:20.000 And it does look like they're just, you know, force-marching us towards World War III, and I think the people need to rise up and stop it.

01:37:28.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:37:30.000 The neocons want to go into Iran.

01:37:33.000 That's stalling to a certain extent, though most experts agree that we'll attack it in the next year and perhaps take some buffered zone there on the western side of Iran, bordering Iraq, of course, where half the oil just so happens to reside.

01:37:45.000 But a lot of experts I've talked to inside the military say no, the real attack is going to be on Syria, and now it looks like Israel, because this is a normal occurrence, kidnappings, killings, The military attacks going on both sides.

01:37:56.000 Ancient tribal warfare.

01:37:57.000 I'm not defending either side.

01:37:58.000 It's out of control and it's being manipulated.

01:38:01.000 But Israel's been caught creating fake Al-Qaeda groups to escalate crises.

01:38:05.000 Clearly they're hyping this up and trying to escalate it as a way to go into Syria. 0.52

01:38:08.000 They're trying to blame Syria right now.

01:38:11.000 Well, it's true.

01:38:12.000 And, you know, I try not to beat on Israel too much. 0.85

01:38:15.000 You know, I'm a Muslim.

01:38:16.000 I'm anti-Zionist. 1.00

01:38:17.000 I don't think Israel ever should have been founded as a Jewish state. 0.61

01:38:20.000 And I think it needs to be taken down and made into a state for all the people that live there, regardless of their ethnicity or religion.

01:38:27.000 Well, it's been like that for 2,000-plus years.

01:38:30.000 Well, no, it hasn't, Alex.

01:38:31.000 Actually, the kind of state we have now in Israel... Well, sir, I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.

01:38:37.000 I'm saying going back to what it was, you know, pre-1940s, and the founding of Israel wasn't in 47, 48, what I'm saying is that it was multicultural, multi-faith, going back to before Titus in 70 AD, you know, going back 2,500 years ago.

01:38:57.000 Okay, I got you.

01:38:58.000 You're absolutely right.

01:39:00.000 Yeah, what I was trying to say was that The Israel we have today is really the last outpost of European settler colonialism.

01:39:07.000 You know how European settlers took over Algeria and turned the natives into peons. 0.99

01:39:12.000 They did the same thing in southern Africa.

01:39:13.000 They did the same thing in Kenya.

01:39:15.000 And they've all been booted out of these places.

01:39:17.000 Those local people have taken back their own lands.

01:39:20.000 And some of the Europeans choose to live on there as equal citizens with the local people.

01:39:24.000 That's happened everywhere on the planet, except of course places like the Americas where there was genocide.

01:39:31.000 And it hasn't happened in Israel-Palestine, and that's why Israel finds itself in an impossible position.

01:39:36.000 It's trying to keep this settler colony going decades after the last settler colonies have folded up everywhere else.

01:39:43.000 Well, I want to make it clear.

01:39:45.000 You know, I've protested the Ku Klux Klan.

01:39:46.000 I've been death-threatened, protested them over ten times.

01:39:49.000 I've stood up against racist groups.

01:39:51.000 And the ADL and others really are racist.

01:39:54.000 They do slander people. 0.94

01:39:56.000 And Israel really does have laws about Jews there can only marry Jews.

01:40:01.000 It's been in major newspapers, Israeli papers, that when say 10,000 or 6,000 in different groups of Chinese workers come in, they have them sign a document swearing they won't date good Jewish girls.

01:40:13.000 I mean, the last time we saw racial laws like this was in Nazi Germany, and I just wonder why the media and others never seem to point this out.

01:40:24.000 Well, that's a good question, Alex, although I think we did actually see laws like that in South Africa after Nazi Germany, and in fact, that's where I think it's important to point out that What we're seeing in Israel now, it's not because it's not a Jewish thing.

01:40:36.000 This is where a lot of people get confused.

01:40:38.000 It's actually a settler colonial thing.

01:40:40.000 Well, it's a Zionist thing, and most Jews are not Zionist.

01:40:44.000 In the last poll I saw, 60% of Israelis are very upset about what... and there's different brands of Zionist, too. 0.99

01:40:51.000 So you're right, I'm sick, I'm a Christian, and I'm sick of so-called liberals going, you Christians, George Bush, you crazy Christians. 0.97

01:40:58.000 Hey, real Christians don't believe what George Bush believes. 0.99

01:41:01.000 George Bush isn't a Christian. 0.97

01:41:04.000 And so just like, I don't appreciate people saying, and they do do this, that Jews are all bad, just like they say Muslims are all bad, or Christians are all bad. 0.96

01:41:15.000 I personally am sick of it, but you're absolutely right.

01:41:18.000 Yeah, what I'm saying is that what the Jewish and Jews who are part of it are doing in Israel is exactly what French people were doing in Algeria, and what Afrikaners of Dutch origin were doing in South Africa, and what British settlers were doing in Kenya.

01:41:32.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:41:32.000 But I think the only difference is, is it the Dutch in South Africa or the French on the Ivory Coast?

01:41:40.000 Or the British in Kenya.

01:41:43.000 They had no stake in history there.

01:41:46.000 And the Jews could certainly claim that 3,000 years ago they came into that area on the Mediterranean coast and into the inland areas in Jerusalem And did hollow that out and drive out some neighboring tribes. 0.99

01:42:00.000 So I think, I mean, I understand your argument, I agree to it, that the modern move of Israel in there is colonial and imperial in nature and really pushed by Britain, but I'm just adding the caveat that I wouldn't say it's purely colonial. 0.52

01:42:15.000 Yeah, well, you know, from a Zionist perspective, that's of course true, that they're invoking a 2,000 year old claim to that land.

01:42:25.000 Other people would say that that's just about as rational as having the gypsies invoke a claim to Egypt, or maybe call them Romanies and have them invoke a claim to Romania. 0.99

01:42:35.000 Oh no, it's true that there were many tribes in that area, and the sick thing about it, you know Israel, this has come out in PNAC documents and come out in James Weapons quarterly, Israel and South Africa teamed up big time because they were apartheid states, 0.70

01:42:50.000 And they worked with South Africa on race-specific bioweapons against Arabs, but the Israelis had to drop that because real Jews, or Sephardi type, because really folks, the Ashkenazi are really just Europeans, and if you want to face the facts, Central Europeans, and that's scientific, I mean the big Jewish encyclopedias tell you that. 0.85

01:43:13.000 And so the reality here is that if they had to drop the bioweapon move, the race specific, because it would have actually killed around 30% of Jews. 0.61

01:43:22.000 That's right, I did read that too.

01:43:23.000 And I'll tell you, those horrific things that these South African scientists were doing really should give us pause and make us realize that we really need to change our way of life. 1.00

01:43:32.000 We need to stop Supporting these people who are doing this kind of research on ways of mass murdering their fellow human beings.

01:43:39.000 Well, I would add that the mix that you have in the original populations of the Mediterranean are a mix of Central Asians who are Asian, who are Oriental, ladies and gentlemen.

01:43:51.000 To boil it down, with some European migrants in the area, so it's really a hybrid population, and so even a lot of Americans who are of European descent, if these bioweapons are released, that's why they dropped it, they're trying to make it more specific, even a lot of Americans who aren't Jewish, but have any Native American 0.58

01:44:14.000 may be killed by these because, believe it or not, the genetic strain in the Middle East is of the same bloodline as Native Americans. 0.99

01:44:23.000 That's true, and I think that this whole idea of racialism, you know, that it really matters, you know, if people fall into these genetic groups based on racial heritage that really mean something, I think that's a pretty dubious way of looking at the world.

01:44:38.000 I think it makes more sense to think in terms of Ideas and practices and traditions and cultures.

01:44:43.000 Oh, I agree with you.

01:44:44.000 I'm just saying, you know, the Zionists come directly with a extreme racial identity setup. 0.99

01:44:53.000 Right, and I don't buy into that.

01:44:55.000 When they say that, oh, we have this racial identity and our racial forefathers had this land, I say, Bunk, I don't think it matters.

01:45:01.000 I don't care who lived in the land that you're on 2,000 years ago.

01:45:04.000 You don't have the right to go there and ethnic cleanse the people who are living there. 1.00

01:45:08.000 Well, I mean, you've studied this more than I, but there were some bad pockets of persecution on all sides, but predominantly Arabs, Muslims, Jews, Christians, especially Jews and Muslims, got along very well from Iraq to Iran to areas in the Mediterranean to right there in Jerusalem.

01:45:29.000 Well, that's true, and part of the reason for that is that in the Islamic world in the past, People were welcome to keep their Jewish or Christian faith, whereas in the Christian world, Jews were often persecuted and Muslims were not even allowed to be there most of the time.

01:45:45.000 So there is a kind of a tradition of tolerance, especially in the older form of Islam, And that's really why you have these different religions.

01:45:55.000 But then Hitler came along, Professor, as you know, with the Muslim Brotherhood, and moved into Tunis, moved into Egypt, moved into North Africa, moved into Iraq, and tried to radicalize the Muslims, and then afterwards the CIA took over, and didn't like secular, mainline, strong Arab and Central Asian countries, and so they actually put radical Muslims into control. 0.67

01:46:19.000 Were you aware of that?

01:46:20.000 Well, yes I am, although I don't think it started with Hitler.

01:46:22.000 Actually, the British, in a way, started the process by moving into the Arabian Peninsula and making an alliance with the Wahhabi-supported groups to rebel against Turkey.

01:46:34.000 That goes back to Lawrence of Arabia.

01:46:36.000 Exactly.

01:46:37.000 So there's been this process of European colonial powers meddling And, you know, pitting one group against the other group and messing around.

01:46:44.000 But I would like to, you know, debunk this idea that the Muslim Brotherhood is basically a Nazi group.

01:46:50.000 That idea has been put out by Zionist propaganda.

01:46:54.000 I mean, it's like there's, you know, 20 companies with the name Federal in their name.

01:46:58.000 I'm saying certain strange.

01:46:59.000 Well, yeah, what it was was sort of a tactical alliance of, you know, your enemy is my enemy, you know, we're friends.

01:47:09.000 In fact, that doesn't mean that people in the Muslim Brotherhood see the world even remotely.

01:47:13.000 Well, that's right.

01:47:15.000 Hitler invaded. 0.52

01:47:15.000 He wasn't asking permission, so people rolled over, too. 0.52

01:47:18.000 Right.

01:47:19.000 I think I just did a bush on that quote.

01:47:22.000 What is the quote?

01:47:23.000 The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

01:47:25.000 Right.

01:47:26.000 Anyway, yeah.

01:47:26.000 Nigeria is a very important continent.

01:47:30.000 That's true.

01:47:30.000 He's done a few of those, hasn't he?

01:47:31.000 Hi Alex, that's a great conversation there.

01:47:33.000 That's a good premise.

01:47:34.000 I did order Terror Storm just the other day.

01:47:35.000 and I want to briefly, well, we've got a bunch of calls here.

01:47:38.000 Let's just go to them.

01:47:38.000 John in Michigan, you're on the air with the good doctor.

01:47:41.000 Go ahead.

01:47:41.000 Hi, Alex.

01:47:42.000 That's a great conversation there.

01:47:45.000 That's a good premise.

01:47:47.000 I did order Terror Storm just the other day.

01:47:50.000 Thank you.

01:47:50.000 And I got at least five copies of Painful Deceptions going out all over America, too.

01:47:56.000 Good!

01:47:58.000 So, I mean, I'm doing my part, but... I mean, are you familiar with David Barton's ministry in Texas?

01:48:04.000 WallBuilders? 0.99

01:48:05.000 I don't believe I am.

01:48:06.000 Okay, well, just WallBuilders.com at some point.

01:48:09.000 He's... Oh, I am, yes.

01:48:10.000 Okay, yeah, he's... That's an excellent ministry.

01:48:13.000 And then are you familiar with Dr. Kent Hovine, too?

01:48:16.000 You know what, I'm not, but do you have a question?

01:48:18.000 He'd be a great guesser.

01:48:19.000 Sure, sure.

01:48:20.000 Do you have any questions or comments for our guests?

01:48:22.000 Oh, well, I heard that comment.

01:48:25.000 See, what we're doing now is we're just attaching adjectives to everything.

01:48:27.000 Paleo-conservative versus neo-conservative.

01:48:30.000 And I just think that's an absolute great point, because we live in a day and age now where we have to define Christianity.

01:48:36.000 We have to say biblical Christianity, because all the mainstream denominations have gone apostate, away from the Bible in one form or another.

01:48:42.000 Like, you have a pro-choice Catholic, You look at a guy like Sean Hannity and all these guys, all these professing Catholics, the fact of the matter is, just like he said, they're not Christians.

01:48:51.000 They're not Biblical Christians, because a Biblical Christian is a separated person. 0.95

01:48:56.000 Okay, I hear you and I appreciate your call, sir, I really do.

01:48:59.000 We're going to come back and take a few more calls from Leslie and others for our guest.

01:49:03.000 And, Doctor, why don't you give people the website for your organization that you head?

01:49:09.000 Yeah, I edit for Mujca.com.

01:49:11.000 That's the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9-11 Truth. 0.68

01:49:15.000 That's M-U-J-C-A dot com and you can Google up Muslim-Jewish-Christian 9-11 and you'll get there real fast. 1.00

01:49:25.000 And right now we have a link to it on InfoWars.com on the main page for people that missed it or weren't aware of it.

01:49:31.000 Be sure and visit it.

01:49:32.000 It's a good organization.

01:49:34.000 Just getting people past all the politics and getting down to exposing 9-11.

01:49:38.000 We're all in this together.

01:49:39.000 The globalists are not Christians, ladies and gentlemen. 0.95

01:49:41.000 I want to restate that.

01:49:42.000 George Bush, when he really engages in religious activity, he worships Lucifer.

01:49:47.000 And you know I don't make stuff up.

01:49:48.000 We've made films about it.

01:49:49.000 We've infiltrated it.

01:49:50.000 It's true.

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01:53:00.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

01:53:05.000 Dr. Kevin Barrett is our guest.

01:53:07.000 We have links to his website up on Infowars.com.

01:53:09.000 Let's go ahead and go back to the calls for our guests.

01:53:11.000 I appreciate joining us.

01:53:14.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Joy in Hawaii. 1.00

01:53:19.000 Joy, you're on the air.

01:53:20.000 Welcome.

01:53:22.000 Hi, Alex.

01:53:23.000 I mostly had a question for you about this 9-11 thing.

01:53:26.000 One of the things that I'm concerned about, or wondering about, I can believe the demolition.

01:53:32.000 I can believe everything that you're saying.

01:53:35.000 I'm wondering, how do you answer someone when they ask you, well, what about Flight 93 and Todd Beamer and Les Rowe and the mothers talking to their sons being interviewed on CNN?

01:53:45.000 Well, let me tell you how you answer that.

01:53:48.000 Number one, it's been scientifically tested.

01:53:51.000 Cell phones do not work above 2,000 feet, you know, flying at 300 miles an hour.

01:53:57.000 I've tested it, everybody I know has tested it, but scientists have tested it.

01:54:01.000 Everyone knows, even now they're trying to develop the technology, everybody knows that five years ago it never worked, it didn't work.

01:54:07.000 They're not saying those were air phones.

01:54:10.000 They're saying people called on their cell phones and they call their mothers up and say, it's your son, and then they say their full name.

01:54:16.000 You believe me, don't you mom?

01:54:18.000 They've had software for a decade where you can get a piece of somebody's voice, put it in a computer, and then real time, talking to a phone, goes through a computer, synthesizes your voice to where it will full voice print with somebody else's voice.

01:54:31.000 Also, tell those friends and people that we all saw Steve McQueen.

01:54:35.000 Last year, promoting Mustangs on television.

01:54:38.000 Putting words in his mouth, saying things.

01:54:40.000 It was not Steve McQueen.

01:54:42.000 He's been dead since 1981 of lung cancer.

01:54:45.000 Let's go forward.

01:54:45.000 Let's talk about Forrest Gump.

01:54:47.000 We all saw him a decade ago shake hands with JFK.

01:54:50.000 It's not real.

01:54:51.000 Okay?

01:54:52.000 So, number one, we know the cell phone calls are impossible.

01:54:55.000 Number two, we know they really shot down Flight 93 at an eight and a half mile debris field.

01:55:00.000 Okay?

01:55:01.000 We have that on record and Rumsfeld slipped up twice and said they shot it down.

01:55:05.000 And so that's theater.

01:55:06.000 It's just like the fat Bin Laden in 2002. 0.97

01:55:07.000 They did a voice print.

01:55:10.000 It wasn't Bin Laden.

01:55:11.000 The face wasn't Bin Laden.

01:55:12.000 He didn't even look like him.

01:55:14.000 Linguists, listen to the voice.

01:55:15.000 It wasn't the same dialect.

01:55:17.000 It's totally fake.

01:55:18.000 These are people that manufacture fake evidence.

01:55:20.000 Doctor, you want to comment?

01:55:22.000 Well, I totally agree with you, Alex.

01:55:23.000 As far as the cell phone calls go, it looks to me like those had to have been fake.

01:55:28.000 And I have looked fairly closely at that fake confession video from December 2001, and it's pretty bizarre that the government is still waving that in our face.

01:55:38.000 As the smoking gun proving that there was some link between Osama Bin Laden and 9-11.

01:55:41.000 Yeah, Bin Laden suddenly gains a hundred pounds and they take real Bin Laden tags, make a voice key, then you try to run that Bin Laden's voice through a voice print key, it doesn't work.

01:55:50.000 It's a hundred percent.

01:55:51.000 Major universities have studied it, ma'am.

01:55:53.000 It's not real.

01:55:54.000 Okay, now what about, uh, what about, that's a good answer.

01:55:57.000 What about the planes that went into the Twin Towers?

01:56:00.000 If they were American and United Airlines planes, Or if they were military planes, it looked like there were bombs on the bottom of them.

01:56:08.000 So, if they were military planes going into the buildings, then what happened to those two flights?

01:56:13.000 Well, ma'am, the media loves to give attention to belly bombs and stuff like that because we can debate it for a thousand years, okay?

01:56:20.000 If you look at CIA insider trading, NORAD standing down, PNAC saying they needed terror attacks to get their agenda.

01:56:26.000 If you look at Cheney and the bunker controlling the operation, the supposed hijackers trained at U.S.

01:56:31.000 military bases.

01:56:32.000 You look at all of that, then you prove the government was running the attacks, then all the minutiae, they're not going to tell us because they're the criminals that carried it out.

01:56:41.000 We need to arrest them and bring them in for questioning.

01:56:43.000 We need to get all those files.

01:56:45.000 But we know, then we know that, it just goes on and on, ma'am.

01:56:49.000 Yeah, I could add something there, Alex.

01:56:51.000 Sure.

01:56:52.000 Yeah.

01:56:52.000 Actually, back in 1962, as you know, there was something called Operation Northwood, which was a plan drafted by Lemnister, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and signed off on by every member of the Joint Chiefs to provoke a war with Cuba by blowing people up in American cities and staging a fake jetliner shootdown.

01:57:09.000 Now, that jetliner was going to be loaded with 200 CIA agents, Playing the role of college students under carefully developed aliases, that is, non-existent people.

01:57:19.000 And if they were going to do a fake shoot-down, the plane would land, a military drone would cross paths... Professor, do you want to stay five more minutes and finish?

01:57:26.000 Oh, sure.

01:57:27.000 Ma'am, just stay there. 1.00

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Welcome back, my friends.

01:58:08.000 We're here live already into the third hour on this Thursday, the 13th edition of July.

01:58:14.000 Coming up, we're going to be talking about the American Union and how the Canadians are fighting back against it more than the people in the U.S.

01:58:21.000 Right now, we are joined by the founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9-11 Truth, Dr. Kevin Barrett.

01:58:29.000 We're talking to a lady out of Hawaii with the classic questions of how the cell phone calls, and then you look at the evidence that those are fake.

01:58:36.000 Then you ask, well, how did they stage these planes flying into buildings?

01:58:40.000 We have an official U.S.

01:58:41.000 government document where they say they'll stage a fake manifest of CIA agents getting on a plane, it takes off and lands, a plane with the same tail numbers, painted up the same, is blown up, then they issue a list of young people that are dead, and the government says, young people really, you know, that gets people real mad.

01:58:58.000 It says all that.

01:59:00.000 And so it's... Yeah, go ahead.

01:59:04.000 Yeah, the plane business on 9-11 is pretty mysterious, but we do have that precedent for some kind of a plane switcheroo that they were planning in Operation Northwood.

01:59:13.000 It's very odd that the occupancy on those four planes on 9-11 was down around 25%, whereas on all the other cross-continental flights... Almost 90!

01:59:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:24.000 It was actually 21%, yeah.

01:59:27.000 Yeah, why were they so empty?

01:59:29.000 By the way, it was Air Force pilots who just so happened to go to work for the airlines who'd run drills the year before flying planes into the Pentagon, and then that's the pilot supposedly piloting the plane that hits the Pentagon, and there's all these CIA people.

01:59:46.000 Oh, all these government people just so happened to die on the flight. 0.77

01:59:48.000 It's so ridiculous.

01:59:50.000 Yeah, it's a pretty bad story to have the guy who was the pilot in the test to fly a plane into the Pentagon He's the guy who gets hijacked, and then a guy who can't fly a Cessna supposedly takes over and flies it all the way back from Ohio and finds his way into the Pentagon by doing a stunt maneuver. 0.84

02:00:08.000 I mean, it's pretty bad script writing.

02:00:11.000 Well, I'll tell you what fits the facts we know.

02:00:14.000 We know the supposed hijackers were really U.S.

02:00:17.000 government agents who thought they were taking part in live-action drills, and it looks like the pilot of whatever plane took off that they claim at the Pentagon, wherever it went, was probably killed or was sheet dipped and they stage deaths all the time.

02:00:29.000 That's declassified.

02:00:30.000 You know, either way, it just shows that all of these were quote live-action drills.

02:00:35.000 That's right.

02:00:35.000 Yeah, it seems like that's how they usually do it with these false flag terror attacks.

02:00:40.000 They take a drill and they make it go live.

02:00:42.000 Just like on 7-7 when we heard from Peter Piper.

02:00:45.000 I'm sorry, Peter, what's his name?

02:00:46.000 Peter Power.

02:00:47.000 Peter Power is Peter Piper.

02:00:48.000 Yeah, Peter Power, right about the same day, came out and said, oh that's funny, you know, these bombs that just went off.

02:00:54.000 That's exactly the place and the time of these bombs that we were, you know, fake bombs that we were going to set off in a terror drill.

02:01:00.000 And we need an actuary on that. 0.96

02:01:02.000 It's over 300 tractogillian chance for that to happen.

02:01:04.000 It's impossible.

02:01:05.000 Yeah, it's true.

02:01:07.000 Let's jam one more call in here real quick, and I gotta let you go.

02:01:09.000 It's been great having you on.

02:01:11.000 Let's talk to Leslie in Virginia.

02:01:12.000 Leslie, go ahead.

02:01:14.000 Yes, sir.

02:01:15.000 Alex Jones has interviewed Jerome Corsi several times, and I don't know if you're aware of this, but the hostility toward you that was shown on Fox News I mean, I'm kind of missing it.

02:01:24.000 was attributed to Rupert Murdoch News Corporation and the other CBS and Disney, and they were to submit the bids to Univision.

02:01:32.000 We're talking about billions of dollars here.

02:01:34.000 I'm ignorant. 0.98

02:01:35.000 What are you... 0.99

02:01:36.000 I mean, I'm kind of missing it.

02:01:38.000 What's going on?

02:01:38.000 What it is, if they give credit to this gentleman...

02:01:43.000 They won't even cover the North American Union.

02:01:46.000 They have got to stop them at this juncture because everything else is going to be like dominoes and they've got all this money on the line to get that North American Union.

02:01:54.000 In fact, it is your Senator, Alex, today that proposed legislation for more Mexican-American deals and it's on today's World Net Daily.

02:02:03.000 But they have got to stop you guys because They're running this thing through a freight train, and that's why all the hostility towards them.

02:02:09.000 I was just thinking maybe this is a... Okay, listen, I gotta go.

02:02:12.000 Thank you for the call.

02:02:13.000 Doctor, it was wonderful having you on.

02:02:15.000 I hope to have you up in the near future again.

02:02:16.000 I'd love to come back, Alex.

02:02:18.000 I love your show.

02:02:19.000 Keep up the good work.

02:02:20.000 Well, thank you, sir.

02:02:20.000 You keep up the good work.

02:02:21.000 Dr. Kevin Barrett, we appreciate you joining us.

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02:05:52.000 There are thousands of facets to the American Union, which will then be merged into the Pan-American Union, encompassing all of Latin America, from Chile to Alaska, the Caribbean Islands, and even into the Pacific.

02:06:10.000 And we are joined by Connie Fogel, She's written a great article, The Bell Tolls for Canada, and she is the head of the Canadian Action Party, and they're going to make it their main central platform issue to defend the sovereignty of Canada.

02:06:31.000 And yes, we've gotten down to this point.

02:06:32.000 I remember three or four years ago reading big Canadian newspapers admitting, American Union, the deals are being signed, it's happening, we're losing our sovereignty.

02:06:39.000 You didn't see that in Mexico, though.

02:06:41.000 They love it.

02:06:41.000 They're run by Chase Manhattan and Citibank.

02:06:43.000 Never saw it in our newspapers.

02:06:44.000 Now you're seeing it in our newspapers.

02:06:46.000 Now you're hearing Lou Dobbs and others talk about it.

02:06:49.000 So, Connie Fogel, thank you for joining us from Canada.

02:06:53.000 Tell us about the Canadian Action Party.

02:06:54.000 Tell us about yourself.

02:06:55.000 Tell us about this fight you're weighing in on.

02:06:58.000 Well, thank you very much for having me on your show.

02:07:02.000 I really appreciate the opportunity.

02:07:04.000 I have a number of Canadian listeners to your show over the years have told me that I should try to get on your show and I'm just so grateful that somebody connected with you and then you connected with me and I'm here because I'm told that you have a pretty respectable audience right from Canada and it's been the difficulty of the Canadian Action Party as one of Canada's few small parties To get exposure.

02:07:34.000 Well, we're glad that you're out there fighting for your sovereignty.

02:07:37.000 Tell us about the party and some of the issues you've been involved in.

02:07:40.000 And now let's get into this American Union.

02:07:43.000 Yeah, the Canadian Action Party began in 1997 and has been in, I think, four elections now in Canada.

02:07:50.000 And it was a party that came into existence with the first leader, who was a former Deputy Prime Minister of Canada by the name of Paul Hellyer.

02:08:00.000 Who had a primary platform of concern about the power of money, the sovereignty of money, and whoever controls the money in your nation controls the nation.

02:08:11.000 It doesn't matter who's actually there in government because the power strings are pulled by those who control money. 0.98

02:08:16.000 We're talking about the Bank of Canada, the central bank who controls that.

02:08:20.000 That's right.

02:08:21.000 Same as our Federal Reserve.

02:08:23.000 Well, it's different because your Federal Reserve is private.

02:08:26.000 Our bank is public.

02:08:29.000 The second prong of the party's concern, always has been a concern about sovereignty, independence, which basically has, as you know, the principle is the right to make decisions, your decisions, in your own area, the way you want it, rather than being dictated to by something or somebody else.

02:08:49.000 And so the second prong was a concern about the glowing corporatization of the world, It's impact on Canada and of course it's exemplified in the Free Trade Agreement and the NAFTA Agreement which has been the vehicle of economic domination and control of Canada and the removal of our economic sovereignty.

02:09:08.000 Those were our primary platforms and have always been the It continues to be the force and thrust of our direction.

02:09:17.000 Well, Connie Fogel, break down what the North American Union is to be expanded into the American Union and the Pan American Union.

02:09:23.000 Break down the reportage you've seen in Canada.

02:09:25.000 I've actually seen more there than I have here, though it's still not enough.

02:09:28.000 And then the concerns Canadians have and how this will affect you and how your population is being sold on this right now.

02:09:36.000 I mean, it's interesting you say what you say, because I think there's been more information coming up from the States than there has been in Canada about it.

02:09:42.000 You may have missed the Toronto Star and a bunch of other articles that came out a few years ago and then last year.

02:09:47.000 Yeah, well there are snippets of things in various... Now, the Toronto Star doesn't cover the country, you see.

02:09:52.000 It's not a major paper that goes right across the country.

02:09:54.000 It serves the Toronto area primarily.

02:09:57.000 So, our major mainstream papers do not, have not been covering any... There'll be little snippets somewhere that's significant that everybody misses it, the majority of people miss it.

02:10:06.000 I, in this, just before our recent, the last election we had, which was held in January of 2006, a number of articles before that, a number of months before that, I began doing research, because of information I was receiving about this North American Union, this Pan-American concept, and put together an article which is called, The Metamorphosis and Sabotage of Canada by Our Own Government.

02:10:27.000 It's on the Canadian Action Party website, canadianactionparty.ca, And basically, I mean, it wasn't very hard to find the information.

02:10:36.000 I had a few other people helping me go to the various websites, government websites, the websites of the corporate elite, to learn what is being done to us.

02:10:51.000 And that became the major platform in the election that we've just had.

02:10:57.000 Because we're so small, we don't get the exposure.

02:10:59.000 And most people, I'm sorry to say, don't know what's going on.

02:11:02.000 That's why I'm grateful to be on your show.

02:11:04.000 People who listen to your show do know.

02:11:07.000 And it's the whole business of getting more and more information out to the masses so that they can understand what's happening to us.

02:11:13.000 Well, let me be clear.

02:11:14.000 Let me be clear, though.

02:11:16.000 I have spent hours every couple days studying the American Union, reading the government websites, reading the news reports about it, and I learn more every day.

02:11:26.000 So to even say this audience is informed, I'm not informed.

02:11:29.000 I mean, I'm informed more than most people who are informed on this issue, but my point is, this thing runs dark and deep.

02:11:36.000 You're right.

02:11:37.000 You know, this black ocean of wickedness that we're witnessing.

02:11:41.000 So impart to us the knowledge you have, in case it's something we're not aware of, of how this is going to interface with Mexico, Canada, and the U.S., and what your strategy is to try to combat this.

02:11:53.000 Okay.

02:11:54.000 Well, you know, we spent time learning about the two major agreements, with the first one being the Smart Border Declaration, which happened in 2001 by a Deputy Prime Minister of Canada.

02:12:05.000 And of your homeland security, which basically began the parameters of extending this union of North America from the economic master plan, which was set out in the NAFTA agreement.

02:12:16.000 It's extended into the military and into the legal system, into the policing system, into immigration.

02:12:21.000 And it was there in December 2001 that they agreed that both countries, in particular they're going to focus on Canada and the United States, ...would bring in anti-terrorist legislation, which was to be the mechanism to control the population as the introduction of this new restructuring was to unfold.

02:12:47.000 Even their own language, when you read the reports on the websites of the chief corporate executives of North America, they acknowledge and confirm that The implementation of a unification of this entire area has to be done incrementally and that's what they're doing.

02:13:04.000 Unfortunately our legislators don't read enough, don't pay attention enough, just accept what's put in front of them in the bits and pieces and we end up with actual law in our country that is harmful to the citizens.

02:13:16.000 The second important significant agreement is the Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement which came

02:13:24.000 into existence by the three leaders of our three countries, Canada, the United States and Mexico, in March of 2005, whereby they basically agreed to expand the agenda of the North American corporate military elite into this restructuring of North America, and created committees, and they agreed that in each country would have three major

02:13:50.000 Cabinet ministers, ministers at the highest level of government, whose job it would be to effect the implementation process.

02:13:59.000 And what's significant, I'll just give you an interesting little side here, that three people who were Canada's implementers, two of whom did not get re-elected in the January election in Canada, One did.

02:14:14.000 He was running for the Liberal Party, which lost its majority, and the party that did get the majority in our minority government is a Conservative.

02:14:23.000 And this third person, named David Emerson, walked across, before they were even on the floor, before the Parliament even reconvened, was invited to join the Conservative Party, which he did.

02:14:36.000 And he is now a Cabinet Minister there in the opposite party, and now in that party, and he was aghast that his His constituency would be unhappy about him jumping to a different party, and he said, I don't know what you're so upset about, I'm just over here continuing the job that I was doing before.

02:14:53.000 The point being, both of these major mainstream parties, the Conservatives and Liberals in Canada, are run by the same outside forces that dictate to them what they're going to do.

02:15:04.000 Well, exactly.

02:15:05.000 I mean, let's get down to brass tacks.

02:15:07.000 In early June, the Bilderberg Group, I was there in Ottawa, in your capital.

02:15:13.000 I went there.

02:15:14.000 Right, I know all about that.

02:15:15.000 What happened to you?

02:15:16.000 I was grilled.

02:15:17.000 It was hellish.

02:15:18.000 They grabbed Canadian citizens and took them to facilities and threatened to cut their arms off.

02:15:23.000 I don't know if you're aware of that.

02:15:24.000 Yes, I've read about it. 0.77

02:15:26.000 So can you, I mean as a Canadian and the head of your party, can you specifically talk about your views on what's happening with your border police and here's this international group who admittedly is pushing and behind the American Union and there they are with your own government guarding them and treating your own citizens and visitors like trash.

02:15:45.000 I know, it's outrageous, it's wrong and I have to tell you that we're the only party, we're one of the small, small parties in Canada but we're the only ones that are taking this stuff on, trying to profile it, trying to Get information out to the public about it.

02:15:57.000 We're the only ones saying that this is wrong.

02:16:00.000 And I have to tell you that many people would not believe that what happened to you happened.

02:16:05.000 They just dismiss that these things happen.

02:16:08.000 And this is the problem that we've got here, and you probably have it there, that these acts are so outrageous, people don't want to believe it.

02:16:16.000 It's easier to deny it.

02:16:17.000 Yeah, denial is not a river.

02:16:19.000 uh... that flows uh... north uh... i mean this is something that's going on and it's hard for the average person to really understand there's this whole secret police network in north america and they're already merging our police our military they signed those agreements i remember three years ago they signed agreements quote to use canadian and quote mexican troops to quote patrol america in times of terrorism i mean that that was in the associated press but i tell the average american they laugh at me

02:16:45.000 But they're not laughing as much now because it is in the news now that we are going into an American Union and that Security and Prosperity Partnership has been signed and our federal agencies respectively are merging without any legislation in your Parliament or in our Congress.

02:17:00.000 Exactly.

02:17:00.000 I mean, they're acting totally beyond and outside of and contrary to our Constitution.

02:17:05.000 It is technically, you know, illegal.

02:17:09.000 And it's something that I want to look at via another group that I'm part of, the Defense of Canadian Liberty.

02:17:17.000 I'm here in Toronto.

02:17:18.000 We've got a break.

02:17:19.000 We'll come back and continue with that.

02:17:20.000 I know we've got a bunch of callers we'll go to.

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02:21:58.000 Connie Fogel is our guest.

02:22:02.000 She heads up the Canadian Action Party.

02:22:04.000 It's a serious party up there.

02:22:06.000 Has a lot of prominent people involved in it.

02:22:09.000 Imagine, you have to tune into this show, or read a few news articles, or maybe catch it on Lou Dobbs, to hear openly the deals have been signed, the agreements are going through, our governments are being merged, Social Security for Mexicans, I'm sure you've heard that.

02:22:22.000 It's a small part of that, those little announcements you hear.

02:22:25.000 Mexicans in Mexico.

02:22:28.000 It's happening. 0.91

02:22:28.000 The end of our country. 0.91

02:22:30.000 And under these regional governorships, and these nine-member boards, three members from Canada, the U.S.

02:22:36.000 and Mexico, We lose control. 0.98

02:22:40.000 We lose our due process.

02:22:41.000 We lose our Bill of Rights.

02:22:42.000 The Canadians lose many of their freedoms.

02:22:44.000 The Mexicans do. 0.93

02:22:45.000 I mean, this is really happening!

02:22:47.000 And ask yourselves, why isn't it bigger news?

02:22:49.000 I mean, we celebrate that it's finally being admitted, but still, it's like an open secret or something.

02:22:56.000 Connie, I want to continue and have you for the whole hour, but let's go to some calls right now.

02:23:00.000 Tim in Alberta, Canada.

02:23:01.000 You're on the air with our guest.

02:23:03.000 Go ahead.

02:23:05.000 Good to hear some other Canadians are doing some stuff too.

02:23:09.000 Just a quick question for Alex.

02:23:12.000 Are you flying your flag upside down yet?

02:23:15.000 No, I was too busy defending the United States part-time, even on the 4th of July, to actually even have a flag flying or to fly it upside down.

02:23:28.000 I was too busy actually defending the spirit of the flag.

02:23:30.000 But yes, flying the flags upside down is a good way to get people to talk to you.

02:23:34.000 You explain it's not disrespectful.

02:23:36.000 No, the Veterans for 9-11 Truth want people to do that and I think that's the greatest protest.

02:23:41.000 I was calling for that 12 years ago.

02:23:44.000 That's the point I'm trying to make.

02:23:46.000 It's respectful to fly a flag when the country's in distress upside down.

02:23:51.000 It's a good way to start conversations, and not just over 9-11 being an inside job, but over this American Union.

02:23:58.000 We should all be flying our flags upside down.

02:24:01.000 You can have a flag much longer.

02:24:05.000 Connie, comments on that?

02:24:06.000 Yes, I agree with you.

02:24:08.000 What people, even on the point that you were making, the reality is that our elected representatives are totally in no control.

02:24:18.000 They don't even acknowledge if they even know what's really going on.

02:24:21.000 The information is...

02:24:23.000 Everything is being done in secret by the permanent government, which operates totally outside the elected representatives.

02:24:30.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:24:30.000 They've been building parallel regional governments at the county, city, federal, state, international level for 70 years.

02:24:36.000 Now they're transferring final total control to those.

02:24:40.000 You understand, folks?

02:24:41.000 We're being hijacked.

02:24:42.000 It goes to everything.

02:24:43.000 It goes to the core of almost significant parts.

02:24:46.000 Of the system, you know.

02:24:47.000 The courts, food, transportation, schooling, law enforcement, military, it's all going into these... Go ahead.

02:24:56.000 Yeah, absolutely, and it's... The astonishing thing, the frustrating aspect is that we've just been through two elections in Canada in the last two years, and none of the mainstream parties in Canada, of which there are four, who have elected people in Parliament, not one of them profiled any of this.

02:25:16.000 So Canadian constituents need to go to the meetings, go to the government meetings, get in their face, put pamphlets out, warn the Canadian people.

02:25:24.000 Same thing in the U.S.

02:25:25.000 and Mexico.

02:25:26.000 Tim, anything else from Alberta?

02:25:28.000 Yeah, just one final thing.

02:25:29.000 Have you filed a complaint with the Canadian government about your treatment coming across the border?

02:25:32.000 Because I've emailed all 308 members of Parliament complaining about the way you were treated, and Don's treatment as well.

02:25:38.000 Have you filed a complaint yet?

02:25:39.000 Well, listen, I've been so busy getting the news out when I got back, hit the ground running, I haven't really worried about myself.

02:25:45.000 Though I should complain so it doesn't happen to others, but I'm told... Exactly, because otherwise they'll just brush it off and say, well, Alex hasn't even complained, so what are you so worked up over?

02:25:54.000 Well, no, I've complained on air and in the newspapers.

02:25:56.000 That's right, that's right.

02:25:57.000 I think that... But a formal complaint into the bureaucracy that they can't say, oh, he doesn't say anything about it.

02:26:02.000 Well, again, I think Canadians are treated pretty well on average by their government.

02:26:05.000 I think, just like Americans are naive, I've now been told by a lot of Americans, I got particularly, specially bad treatment.

02:26:11.000 I mean, I was singled out.

02:26:12.000 But, man, I'm told that for all over the world, Canadian customs is just vicious.

02:26:19.000 I mean, I'm told that they're vicious to even American families visiting on tourism, and I don't think Canadians are aware of this.

02:26:25.000 I mean, have you guys ever heard of that?

02:26:28.000 I mean, both of you, both to Connie... No, no, the tables are reversed.

02:26:34.000 We hear about the difficult... how badly people can be treated by the U.S.

02:26:39.000 border officials.

02:26:40.000 I think the reality is, it's not a U.S.

02:26:42.000 or a Canadian thing.

02:26:44.000 It's, as such, it's a mentality of a police mentality, police state mentality.

02:26:50.000 You're right.

02:26:50.000 Police state mentality, that's it.

02:26:52.000 And that's the issue.

02:26:54.000 You see, people would criticize us, the Canadian Action Party, as being narrow, nationalistic, and being anti-American.

02:27:00.000 We said, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.

02:27:01.000 Oh, no, that's pro-America for you to want to keep your sovereignty.

02:27:06.000 But you see, we're talking about the fundamental, we're going to fundamental truths that are applicable For all human beings, you know, internationally, and particularly for us in North America, we're talking about poverty, independence... Hey, I totally agree with you.

02:27:19.000 Stay there.

02:27:20.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:20.000 We've got links to this organization's websites up on InfoWars.com right now.

02:27:24.000 More calls for our guests straight ahead.

02:27:35.000 We're on the march.

02:27:37.000 The Empire's on the run.

02:27:39.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:27:45.000 So Janice, where are you and Jim going on vacation this summer?

02:27:48.000 Definitely somewhere with a beach, though who knows if our feet will even touch the sand.

02:27:52.000 That reminds me Janice, have you figured out how to talk to Jim about his problem?

02:27:56.000 No, I want to, but men can be so sensitive.

02:27:59.000 Well it's only going to get worse.

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02:31:01.000 I'm going to give my own little advice to Connie Fogle and everybody who's fighting the American Union. 0.88

02:31:06.000 You explain to people that they're going to use trans-nafta highways This is in the Texas newspapers with the equivalent of 385 per gallon.

02:31:15.000 The average car, 24 miles to the gallon.

02:31:17.000 And even TxDOT implementing the international slash federal plan says it'll be 385 equivalent for 24 miles traveled.

02:31:24.000 equivalent for 24 miles traveled.

02:31:29.000 So 385 equivalent per gallon average.

02:31:32.000 And they're going to use that to expand the highways, international zones, giving the Mexican and Canadian government control of major port facilities, including inland train and railway hubs.

02:31:44.000 The same thing happens to Canada.

02:31:46.000 This is just a free-for-all with private corporations going in and paying off the regional governors to just hand them entire blocks of infrastructure.

02:31:55.000 It's gunboat diplomacy.

02:31:57.000 That term comes from Teddy Roosevelt and before.

02:32:01.000 Where they would send in 20,000 marines into a Latin American country or into some Caribbean nation, happen to bunch.

02:32:08.000 The British would do this in other areas of the world.

02:32:11.000 They'd land the troops, come in, just take over and say that this belongs to our corporations.

02:32:16.000 And they got more sophisticated.

02:32:18.000 The IMF and World Bank documents were declassified, were released as sticklets.

02:32:22.000 Chief Economist went public in 2002, and they talked about how they go in, they pay off politicians, the politicians then sign over the infrastructure to them.

02:32:30.000 It's all criminal.

02:32:31.000 It's all Enron times ten, times a hundred.

02:32:34.000 I mean, it is so huge.

02:32:36.000 So you explain to people that unelected, unaccountable regional boards then report to larger, unaccountable American Union government and then they just do whatever they want and then everything is basically turned into our original governing councils that we elect become the schedule.

02:32:56.000 They become just a side item.

02:33:01.000 So they become basically rubber stamps or titular.

02:33:07.000 They don't count.

02:33:08.000 They're there in name only.

02:33:10.000 So, it's extremely serious.

02:33:13.000 Connie, what is your... I mean, you've written a great article here, The Bell Tolls for Canada, and that speaks to your national anthem.

02:33:20.000 But, but still, O Canada, my Canada, there are many who will not go silent into this night.

02:33:28.000 And of course, that's Connie Fogle, the leader of the CAP, kind of doing a play on words from a national anthem.

02:33:35.000 And you've written, Do not ask for whom the bell tolls, O Canada, it tolls for thee.

02:33:40.000 And you've got this article breaking down some of the things that are happening, but what's your main approach to try to warn Canadians about what's happening?

02:33:48.000 Well, trying to get information out to them.

02:33:53.000 We have a website, of course, and connecting with media such as yourself or other media... Give that site out!

02:34:02.000 TheCanadianActionParty.ca www.CanadianActionParty.ca You know, just trying to encourage people to understand that this is a political party, a legitimate legal entity of opposition in Canada, that we're inviting people to join and to become part of in order to save ourselves.

02:34:30.000 Literally, fundamentally back to the core things of saving democracy and preventing the imposition on all of us of a police state, all of which is in place right now, hanging over us, ready to descend when the powers that be decide they're going to do it.

02:34:44.000 And the police state, of course, is there to implement what you've just described, to hand over the resources that belong to all of us, the people of this land, of North America, and our separate entities of Canada, the United States, and Mexico, And I've seen in Mexican, Canadian, and U.S.

02:35:09.000 papers, you'll see the courts rule in the exact same way, because they're now already controlled by these international crime syndicates.

02:35:16.000 They will come in, and they're so continent-wide, In North America, they're announcing, oh, you don't own your private property.

02:35:24.000 If a private interest wants it, you've got to give it to them.

02:35:27.000 They're not even giving just compensation.

02:35:29.000 Supreme Court rulings.

02:35:30.000 Canadian Supreme Court rulings.

02:35:32.000 So we see this unification as the puppet governments now rubber stamp everything that the executive branches order them to do.

02:35:42.000 That's right.

02:35:43.000 And I mean, it's important.

02:35:46.000 You know, what are people, what are we to do, the ordinary citizen, how are we to combat this?

02:35:51.000 How are we to take, to wrest back control in the interest of people, is the big question.

02:35:57.000 And so the point of the existence of the Canadian Action Party and the reason for my work in it and my trust is to be able, first of all, to express my unhappiness and dissatisfaction and absolute opposition to what's going on, to have a mechanism to be the voice, And secondly, to get people to understand that this is a legal vehicle that can be used to wrest back the power so that we can use the power in the interest by the people, of the people, and for the people.

02:36:27.000 That that is still a necessary and important way to go if you do believe in democracy.

02:36:31.000 It's possible to do it.

02:36:33.000 And we must do that.

02:36:35.000 The alternatives are nothing but staggeringly frightening.

02:36:41.000 It is.

02:36:41.000 We've got to ring the alarm.

02:36:43.000 It's our job.

02:36:44.000 I mean, this is actually happening.

02:36:46.000 Let's take a call.

02:36:47.000 William in Georgia.

02:36:49.000 Welcome, sir.

02:36:49.000 Thanks for holding her on the air.

02:36:51.000 Hey, it's great talking to you, Alex.

02:36:52.000 I just want to bring up a few issues.

02:36:55.000 I was listening to NPR earlier, talking about Iran invading Lebanon, and now they're talking about how those Israeli prisoners, they suspect are in Iran.

02:37:06.000 This could be the spark, my friend.

02:37:08.000 I just want to see what you think about that.

02:37:11.000 Well, I mean, restate that a little bit more for me.

02:37:14.000 Yeah, you know those Israeli prisoners that they're doing all these bombings to justify? 0.93

02:37:19.000 Yes, yes.

02:37:20.000 Yeah, I just heard them talking saying that they believe that they're being smuggled into Iran.

02:37:26.000 And this could be the spark, you know, they already openly said they want to nuke Iran. 0.79

02:37:31.000 This is so obvious.

02:37:32.000 They've been trying to claim that Syria's behind it. 0.52

02:37:35.000 Syria's been trying to grovel, lick boots, begging, pleading, arresting whoever Israel or the U.S. 0.95

02:37:41.000 government tells them to, literally on their knees saying, please, please, please. 0.93

02:37:46.000 They're not involved in any terrorism.

02:37:48.000 They were years ago, and of course terrorism is any military strike back at Israel.

02:37:54.000 I mean, you've got to love it when we, the U.S.

02:37:57.000 or Israel, attack somebody, or England does.

02:37:59.000 It's loving and sweet and, oh, a 2,000 pound bomb because we love you, and we're good.

02:38:05.000 And even if we attack first, it's called defensive.

02:38:09.000 But then if anybody else fights back, it's called terrorism.

02:38:12.000 And you're telling me now, sir, that they're announcing on the news that Israel is saying they think they smuggled these captured troops into Iran.

02:38:21.000 I mean, how obvious is that?

02:38:22.000 Yes, sir.

02:38:23.000 This could be the spark.

02:38:24.000 Who reported that?

02:38:26.000 Who reported that?

02:38:27.000 NPR.

02:38:29.000 Okay, we've got a lot of continual coverage on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com on all of this, and we'll continue throughout the weekend, throughout Friday and the weekend, to be covering this, but we'll get that posted as soon as we can find it.

02:38:42.000 Who exactly was saying this on NPR?

02:38:44.000 I wouldn't be able to tell you.

02:38:46.000 You were just driving along and some sniveling creature was saying it?

02:38:48.000 Exactly.

02:38:50.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

02:38:54.000 I tell you, this is really starting to get serious.

02:38:56.000 It is very serious.

02:38:57.000 I mean, we're talking potential for the end of the world.

02:39:02.000 It's serious stuff.

02:39:04.000 Well, you're right.

02:39:05.000 In fact, even New York Daily News is saying the start of World War III has begun.

02:39:09.000 That was last Thursday was the headline, seven days ago.

02:39:13.000 You saw that?

02:39:14.000 Well, you're informed.

02:39:16.000 Most people wouldn't read New York Daily News, even if they lived in New York.

02:39:19.000 But all of this is happening, and then at the very same time, for no reason, they want to attack all these countries to escalate a global crisis, and meanwhile, they're getting rid of our own countries.

02:39:32.000 They claim they're going to have these wars for the U.S.

02:39:35.000 and for Canada and for England and for the sovereignty of these countries.

02:39:39.000 Meanwhile, they're killing our countries.

02:39:42.000 Well, you know, we are in the age of doublespeak, you know, the Orwellian doublespeak.

02:39:48.000 If anybody has never read or a long time ago read Orwell's 1984, I recommend everybody go back and read it because what he predicted, which it was a futuristic novel, but in fact, when you read it, it's what's happening right now.

02:40:00.000 It's unfolding right now and people get a handle on it.

02:40:04.000 The major ploy, of course, is the use of language to say one thing but mean something totally other too.

02:40:09.000 We need to use language that pretends you're doing something for the benefit and the good of people when in fact it's hurting them.

02:40:14.000 It's important to understand how all of this operates and you put your finger on that just in what you've described.

02:40:21.000 So we have to inform people for them to be thinking and understanding how to go to the root of what is really happening and what is really being meant so that people can stand up for themselves and defend themselves.

02:40:39.000 Well, you're absolutely right about that.

02:40:41.000 Let's take another call.

02:40:43.000 Let's talk to Mick in New York.

02:40:45.000 Mick, thanks for holding.

02:40:47.000 Mike, I love to butcher names.

02:40:49.000 Go ahead.

02:40:51.000 I just want to talk about the Zawahiri videos.

02:40:53.000 I've been watching those a lot lately, and I don't know if he's writing this stuff himself, but whoever's writing it is clearly a PR master.

02:41:02.000 It's clear the intention is to infuriate the average bush lover.

02:41:06.000 My specific question is, There's one tape where he claims that Bin Laden made Bush an offer that could end the Iraq conflict and he said Bush's answer was, Negotiate with terrorists.

02:41:20.000 Now those guys are all CIA operatives.

02:41:22.000 That's even been in mainstream news.

02:41:23.000 It's all completely staged.

02:41:25.000 It's all PR.

02:41:26.000 From chopping, you know, people's heads off.

02:41:29.000 It's come out.

02:41:30.000 That's all staged.

02:41:31.000 The fake bin Laden videos.

02:41:33.000 It's all... Folks, we have White House documents that they bought.

02:41:36.000 They bought $1.6 billion in fake news.

02:41:39.000 They tell us all the Iraq newspapers are independent.

02:41:41.000 Turns out they're all completely run and staged, written out of the US.

02:41:45.000 And Israel.

02:41:46.000 It's just, I mean, literally, folks, we have White House memos where they talk about staging the shoot-downs of planes painted up like UN or trying to get Saddam to shoot them down to claim he was trying to attack the UN or having defectors stage WMD fines and, you know, how to lie.

02:42:02.000 We got all these White House documents.

02:42:04.000 I mean, it's just, I mean, look, it's like if I had a neighbor who lied to me a hundred times, What about a neighbor that lied to me once? 0.99

02:42:10.000 I said, hey, will you house shit for me? 0.98

02:42:13.000 I'll pay you to do it, or I'll swap out next month when you're on vacation. 0.99

02:42:17.000 Will you feed my dogs twice a day?

02:42:18.000 Will you feed my fish?

02:42:20.000 And then you come home and your fish are dead, and your dog's almost dead.

02:42:25.000 And you say, did you feed them?

02:42:28.000 Did you water them?

02:42:28.000 Oh yeah, I did.

02:42:29.000 And there's dog poop all over the house.

02:42:31.000 And your fish are dead.

02:42:32.000 And then you ask them to do it again.

02:42:35.000 You believe them.

02:42:36.000 But you set something on top of the fish food, a little speck or something to see if they actually feed them.

02:42:42.000 You come back, the fish are dead again.

02:42:45.000 This time the dog looks sick, but it looks like they might have been given one bowl of water.

02:42:48.000 Or you ask them to water your plants for the second time and they're all dead.

02:42:52.000 You're not going to have them house sit again.

02:42:54.000 Or it's worse.

02:42:56.000 You come home and you've been robbed, your television, your computers are gone, and your neighbor says, oh gosh, somebody must have broke in while you were gone, but the police say no breaking and entering, and then a year later you're at their house for a barbecue, and there's your television set, and you see the scratch on the front of it, where your five-year-old threw something at it a year before, and you know it's your TV, you go, that's my TV, and they go, no it's not!

02:43:16.000 You know, imagine a hundred, two hundred, three hundred, four hundred, five hundred times they lie to you!

02:43:21.000 Okay, I mean, let's say you know that they're cheating with your wife. 0.99

02:43:26.000 You finally catch him in bed after a year of suspecting it, and then he's actually in bed with your wife, they are actually in the act, and then they look at you while they're having sex and they say we weren't having sex.

02:43:38.000 That's not happening.

02:43:39.000 Well, exactly!

02:43:40.000 This is just cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

02:43:43.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:43:44.000 So, I don't know, it just infuriates me.

02:43:50.000 So you think PR firms are really just writing this stuff for them to read out?

02:43:56.000 Yes, sir.

02:43:56.000 There are so many different ways they propagandize, but that's one of the main ones.

02:44:01.000 Wow.

02:44:01.000 Hey, I appreciate your call.

02:44:03.000 I was just told... I'm on remote every day, folks.

02:44:06.000 I'm down in Austin, Texas.

02:44:07.000 They're in Minnesota.

02:44:08.000 They offer to have the instant message to give me calls, but I like to scribble them down, and then when they pop in my ear and tell me I have another caller from Canada who goes in front of people, I miss it.

02:44:16.000 So who was that caller from Canada again?

02:44:19.000 Chuck in Canada, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:44:22.000 I just want to mention that I think the reason why Canadians are so dumbed down to what's going on is because the media is absolutely refusing to print any information in this.

02:44:31.000 And I'm just wondering what she has done in her initiative To approach the media and try and make them print something about it.

02:44:39.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:44:40.000 To be fair, almost, not almost, all the Ottawa papers and several national papers and CBC and CTV all ran reports while I was there.

02:44:49.000 And that's just the stuff I saw.

02:44:50.000 It was everywhere talking, and they were quoting me saying, they're creating an American Union, they're getting rid of Canada's sovereignty, but I, but they never backed me up.

02:44:59.000 Everything I was saying was true, but it was like Mr. Conspiracy says this.

02:45:03.000 Yeah, and I was talking to a senior producer at CBC named Mark Harrison, and he made a comment that this is not taking place.

02:45:11.000 And I actually have an audio on WAVE file that says precisely that.

02:45:15.000 So according to CBC, this push for the North American Union and the NAFTA highway Uh, does not exist.

02:45:22.000 So according to the CBC, there are not walleye in your lakes, and you do not have moose, and there are not lots of pine trees yet.

02:45:31.000 That's right.

02:45:32.000 The caller is correct about what's happening in Canada.

02:45:34.000 What you've described, you think it's great that there's been this exposure, but you know what?

02:45:38.000 It's because of your being.

02:45:39.000 Whatever was written there was because you have happened to what's happened to you at the border, and that made some news and some profile.

02:45:46.000 You caused a response and a reaction.

02:45:49.000 There was some information came out about what's happening because of what happened to you.

02:45:53.000 But for the most part, we get nothing in our mainstream media about all this stuff.

02:45:58.000 And the odd little wee bit often times written is just like this caller says, it's denied.

02:46:03.000 Pretend it's not happening.

02:46:06.000 And it's the alternative media in Canada that puts this information out.

02:46:09.000 And a lot of people, of course, are avoiding the mainstream media because they find news.

02:46:14.000 Well, see, that's the good news.

02:46:15.000 That's the good news.

02:46:18.000 Connie, the mainstream media is losing its credibility.

02:46:20.000 Anything else, Chuck?

02:46:21.000 No, that's it.

02:46:22.000 I just also want to say thanks, Alex.

02:46:24.000 Thanks, Carol, for bringing this information out. 0.90

02:46:26.000 Because if it wasn't for you, I know a lot of people would be completely ignorant.

02:46:29.000 And it's that Lou Dobbs video that I played for people that has really opened their eyes. 0.77

02:46:33.000 And that's what this all comes down to.

02:46:34.000 In fact, speak of the devil, can you find that Lou Dobbs piece from last week?

02:46:40.000 I just want to play the first minute or two of that.

02:46:42.000 And once people hear that, something instinctively switches on that light.

02:46:48.000 Well, let's go ahead and roll just a minute of that right now before we go to break and we'll come back and take more calls.

02:46:54.000 Scott, you find it?

02:46:56.000 Here it is, Lou Dobbs, last week.

02:46:59.000 Here it is.

02:47:00.000 The Bush administration's open borders policy and its decision to ignore the enforcement of this country's immigration laws is part of a broader agenda.

02:47:10.000 President Bush signed a formal agreement that will end the United States as we know it.

02:47:15.000 And he took the step without approval from either the U.S.

02:47:18.000 Congress or the people of the United States.

02:47:21.000 Bill Tucker reports.

02:47:24.000 The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America sounds benign.

02:47:28.000 Hardly like a policy that critics call NAFTA on steroids.

02:47:33.000 It's a deal that few have even heard of.

02:47:35.000 It's being done again by very few people at the very top on behalf of the investment class, but the working class of people.

02:47:43.000 Political officials across our country, from communities, from cities, and so forth, they don't know anything about this.

02:47:50.000 Yet it was agreed to by Mexico's President Fox, Canada's Prime Minister Martin, and President Bush in 2005.

02:47:57.000 Administration officials counter their critics by saying everything about SPP is on the White House website.

02:48:04.000 And they say the partnership is not a treaty, but more of an outline of priorities between the United States, Mexico, and Canada.

02:48:12.000 Still, some wonder why there haven't been public discussions about the goals being pursued.

02:48:18.000 This SPP includes, for instance, a committee that is sitting down to harmonize our meat inspection and food safety.

02:48:27.000 Alright, we'll be right back.

02:48:29.000 We'll be right back with a few final calls with our guest, and we'll wrap up this.

02:48:33.000 This has been a good Thursday edition.

02:48:36.000 Alright, stay with us, stay the course.

02:48:37.000 PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, JonesReport.com, InfoWars.net Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

02:48:47.000 And the behavior of our police is a reflection of our government.

02:48:50.000 One look in the mirror and we know our country is entering a high-tech police state.

02:48:54.000 Here's just a sample from my documentary film, Police State 2 The Takeover.

02:48:58.000 In downtown Seattle today, the First Amendment ended.

02:49:02.000 The civil emergency was created by the police.

02:49:04.000 Why have police attacked people on the street indiscriminately?

02:49:08.000 The medical bills!

02:49:10.000 Are going to be enormous for me.

02:49:13.000 You see them here with their hands cupped behind their backs.

02:49:16.000 They are being let into the Sandpoint Brig.

02:49:19.000 The neighbors in that area of Sandpoint Naval Air Station were shocked to hear that the old brig was being reopened.

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02:51:40.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:51:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:51:57.000 Final segment with Connie Vogel.

02:52:06.000 She is the leader of the Canadian Action Party.

02:52:10.000 We have details at Infowars.com for you.

02:52:12.000 A few final phone calls here.

02:52:14.000 Cliff in Idaho, thanks for holding.

02:52:16.000 You're on the air.

02:52:17.000 Thank God for you and Connie.

02:52:20.000 I've got some important information to give to you, if I can real quick.

02:52:24.000 You know Tom Martino, the troubleshooter?

02:52:26.000 I mean, he's got an audience all over the United States.

02:52:28.000 Yes, I've heard the show.

02:52:29.000 Okay, I sent him some material, and he put it out yesterday, and he is madder than hell.

02:52:34.000 And I sent him some more yesterday, you know, returning the 82 more international toll roads you're putting in.

02:52:41.000 So Tom Martino's gotten on board?

02:52:41.000 Really?

02:52:43.000 Oh, you betcha he has.

02:52:43.000 Well, see, that's how this happens.

02:52:45.000 Most people in the media aren't evil, they're just ignorant. 0.99

02:52:48.000 That's correct. 0.98

02:52:48.000 And also, I put it out on Probing America. 0.98

02:52:52.000 And, uh, Mark Richardson's brother is Todd Richardson.

02:52:54.000 He's an attorney and he said, uh, that it wasn't signed and all this stuff, and then I gave him the deal from Lou Dobbs.

02:53:01.000 And, uh, Connie, you ought to, uh, get on the Tom Martino Show or whatever, or, and you have him on also, Alex.

02:53:08.000 Okay.

02:53:09.000 You want his number?

02:53:10.000 Uh, no, that's okay.

02:53:11.000 I know how to get a hold of him if I need to.

02:53:13.000 Okay, well, get a hold of this Todd Richardson, too.

02:53:15.000 His, his, uh, website is toddrichardson at excite.com.

02:53:18.000 Okay, thank you so much.

02:53:20.000 You keep it up.

02:53:20.000 I appreciate it.

02:53:22.000 You keep it up.

02:53:22.000 See, that's how this works.

02:53:24.000 People, for so many years, heard us warn them about this.

02:53:27.000 And they didn't believe us.

02:53:28.000 Now, when they're faced with it, it totally shatters their paradigm.

02:53:32.000 Don't you think the globalists, Connie, are overreaching?

02:53:34.000 That stuff's starting to backfire on them?

02:53:36.000 Well, yes, it is.

02:53:38.000 It does.

02:53:38.000 I agree with you.

02:53:40.000 My concern is the The police state apparatus is there to come down on us as soon as we start to win this war, as you describe it.

02:53:48.000 I agree.

02:53:49.000 I think they foresee that they're going to lose things politically, so they're getting ready for dictatorship.

02:53:52.000 That's right.

02:53:53.000 And that's the scary thing.

02:53:56.000 You're doing is so important and what I'm trying to do up here and to let people know that we have... You need volunteers, you need supporters, and so they need to contact you and get involved.

02:54:06.000 You're a good group.

02:54:07.000 Let's talk to Joe in Florida.

02:54:09.000 Joe, last caller, go ahead.

02:54:11.000 Hey Alex, thanks for having me on.

02:54:12.000 I've got a real cool question for you.

02:54:14.000 I'm trying to do my part.

02:54:15.000 I'm trying to assemble a documentary myself, kind of like in a Dylan Avery style.

02:54:20.000 I don't want my computer.

02:54:21.000 I heard that JFK speech the other day on your show about secret societies.

02:54:26.000 I need the date and location he gave that.

02:54:28.000 Yeah, it's been on InfoWars.com.

02:54:30.000 It's in the archives.

02:54:31.000 You just have to look around for it.

02:54:32.000 I looked it up.

02:54:33.000 I couldn't find the date or location on every link.

02:54:36.000 Yeah, I can't really direct everybody to each link, but it's there, sir.

02:54:41.000 I'm sorry I can't help you.

02:54:42.000 I don't even have a computer on in front of me.

02:54:43.000 I usually have a computer off in here because when I do have one on, it becomes a distraction.

02:54:47.000 I start surfing and I'm not listening to the guests or the callers.

02:54:50.000 I tried it for a few months again and then I just turned it off.

02:54:53.000 I just can't have it.

02:54:54.000 Because I would try to go answer your question right now and I just can't do it.

02:54:58.000 But sorry I couldn't help you.

02:54:59.000 I'm not trying to be persnickety.

02:55:01.000 I'm just not going to blow hot air at you.

02:55:03.000 Well, Connie, thank you so much for joining us.

02:55:05.000 Give us that website one more time.

02:55:07.000 www.canadianactionparty.ca And what about a phone number for folks that want to call you?

02:55:15.000 They can call me at 604-872-2128.

02:55:20.000 One more time.

02:55:22.000 604-872-2128.

02:55:23.000 Connie, Godspeed.

02:55:24.000 We'll be talking to you in the near future.

02:55:26.000 Excellent.

02:55:27.000 Keep up the good work.

02:55:28.000 God bless you.

02:55:28.000 Good to hear from you.

02:55:31.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight Central Standard Time.

02:55:34.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:55:35.000 And we'll see you back, of course, on Monday as well, through the weekend.

02:55:39.000 Things are really heating up in Israel.

02:55:41.000 A serious situation as they try to have a provocation for the neocons to start World War III.

02:55:47.000 Pray that God try to stop this.

02:55:49.000 Pray that the people try to stop this.

02:55:51.000 Pray that God lead them to do that.

02:55:54.000 And, uh, please get my new film, Terror Storm, so you learn who's really behind the terror.

02:55:57.000 It's out right now, available at InfoWars.com.

02:56:00.000 You can watch it online right now at PrisonPlanet.TV.

02:56:03.000 That's PrisonPlanet.TV.

02:56:06.000 Uh, we live in very serious times.

02:56:08.000 We live at massive crossroads at so many levels, and it's important that every man, woman, and child, Hispanic, black, white, polka-dotted, and purple, it's important that all of us come together against tyranny.

02:56:18.000 All of us exert ourselves to expose this evil.

02:56:21.000 Now get out there and take on the New World Order.

02:56:22.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - July 13, 2006

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