Alex Jones Show - 20060724_Mon_Alex

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00:00:39.000 Welcome, my friends.

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00:00:41.000 Huge broadcast lined up for you today on this 24th day of July 2006, this Monday edition.

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00:01:40.000 Israelis signal it may accept foreign forces on its border, except UN, US, European Union, slash NATO led troops.

00:01:51.000 We'll be getting into that.

00:01:54.000 And they're saying, we're not stopping now, says defiant Israeli generals.

00:01:58.000 Continuing, heavy fighting continues deeper into Lebanon.

00:02:01.000 Israeli forces moved in about a week ago, a week into the fighting.

00:02:05.000 We're now on the day 14 today.

00:02:08.000 And they've really been some fighting in the weeks before that, but they're officially saying it's 14 days since this new war started, and now they're moving even deeper, seizing several more villages.

00:02:18.000 And I saw it in the Associated Press yesterday, but I couldn't believe it when I even heard it on Fox News Radio.

00:02:22.000 They admitted That the Israelis have told all these innocent people to flee these villages, but then when they flee in convoys, they bomb the convoys, and when the convoys get to areas nearby the villages to escape, the bridges themselves have been bombed.

00:02:37.000 So, pretty cynical by Israel. 0.85

00:02:41.000 The Associated Press is dropping a huge bombshell on everybody. 0.88

00:02:45.000 Soldiers in Iraq say they were ordered to kill all adult males.

00:02:49.000 Individuals being charged with murdering entire families and engaging in mass murder are saying, hey, we were ordered to do this.

00:02:58.000 And guess what?

00:02:59.000 Remember the Ithaca Journal?

00:03:02.000 Remember back in 2002?

00:03:06.000 When one of the men from the military gave an interview to the Ithaca Journal, by the way, he was proud of it.

00:03:11.000 It wasn't a hit piece. 0.96

00:03:12.000 And said, yeah, we were ordered to go into villages and kill all men, women, and children. 0.96

00:03:17.000 I didn't have time this morning to dig that out of Google.

00:03:19.000 I even forget his name.

00:03:20.000 I think it was something like... I forget.

00:03:24.000 We'll find it.

00:03:26.000 And we saw a story about this, and then the Pentagon came out in their quote, clarification, not a correction, but a clarification, and said, well, in certain zones we say to kill everyone.

00:03:39.000 In certain villages, that was their clarification.

00:03:43.000 So we see this over and over and over again. 0.94

00:03:46.000 We know they're being ordered to go in and kill everybody, but in this report it's that they're being ordered to kill all adult males.

00:03:53.000 And we know from mainstream news reports That the military in Iraq goes into entire villages and arrest everyone down to age 11. 0.62

00:04:04.000 Every male down to age 11.

00:04:06.000 Boy, that sounds like freedom.

00:04:08.000 So we're going to combine in a story about this AP report.

00:04:13.000 We'll combine some of the history for you.

00:04:15.000 AP soldiers in Iraq say they were ordered to kill all adult males El Paso, four U.S.

00:04:22.000 soldiers accused of murdering suspected insurgents during a raid in Iraq, said they were under orders to kill all military-age males, according to sworn statements obtained by the Associated Press.

00:04:34.000 Another scary article here domestically, federal marshals ordered to put innocent people on watch lists to meet quota.

00:04:44.000 Oh yes, so I'm going to run through all this in more detail than I just mentioned when we get back.

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00:08:19.000 It's clear that Israel and the United States are escalating the crisis in the Mideast right now, in Lebanon, as a pretext to go into Iran and Syria, and it looks like it could be Syria first.

00:08:37.000 We had been getting these reports last Thursday and Friday, but over the weekend it broke in the Times of London and the Associated Press that the Israelis first cynically ordered a whole bunch of southern villages, what, five separate major villages and towns in southern Lebanon to evacuate.

00:08:56.000 And then the evacuating groups piled on top of vehicles.

00:09:02.000 Most families there don't have cars, so some vehicles in descriptions of trucks and minivans would have as many as 15 people riding in them and on them.

00:09:13.000 They would pull up to areas trying to escape on their escape routes, and the bridges had already been bombed.

00:09:21.000 And then here come the Israeli helicopters and the Israeli US made and paid for F-16s and F-15s dropping 500 and 1000 pound bombs on them and launching missiles at them.

00:09:36.000 We did report on this Friday.

00:09:39.000 Sunday it broke in mainstream news.

00:09:42.000 I've even gotten a few mean emails saying I was making this up and that the reporters that we had on from the Middle East and the reports we were covering from the Mideast were fabricated.

00:09:53.000 Well, here it is in the Times of London.

00:09:54.000 Fleeing civilian vehicles hit by Israeli missiles.

00:09:59.000 So they tell them to leave and put out these press releases about how humanitarian they are, and then they blow up the fleeing minivans.

00:10:06.000 It says, with an expression of utmost calm on her blood-masked face, the woman allowed herself to be gently lowered from the minibus into the waiting arms of two Lebanese Red Cross volunteers.

00:10:19.000 The rescue workers had extracted her through the jagged hole in the roof of the crumpled bus created by a missile fired minutes earlier by an Israeli helicopter, an Apache I would add, that had blasted the vehicle off the road.

00:10:33.000 Left behind in the vehicle slumped over each other and soaked in blood were the bodies of three people.

00:10:41.000 The narrow roads, ...that meander through the valleys and undulating chalky hills east of Tyre were a place of terror and death yesterday as Israeli helicopters attacked civilian vehicles fleeing Israel's 11-day onslaught in southern Lebanon.

00:10:59.000 Again, this came out a few days ago.

00:11:01.000 It's really 14 days now, ladies and gentlemen.

00:11:04.000 Dr. Ahmed Maru, director of the Jabal Amal Hospital and Tire, said today is the day of the cars.

00:11:13.000 It has been very bad.

00:11:15.000 By early evening, Jabal Amal Hospital alone had received 41 wounded, most of them serious, according to hospital sources, all thought to be civilians.

00:11:25.000 Seeking refuge north of the river after heeding Israeli warnings to leave the area.

00:11:33.000 So let's take the numbers.

00:11:34.000 There's two people slumped dead in the truck.

00:11:37.000 One lady gets out alive. 1.00

00:11:38.000 It's 40 plus people at one southern hospital alone.

00:11:42.000 I mean, the numbers could be in the hundreds of dead.

00:11:44.000 We don't know.

00:11:46.000 The stricken minibus was hit along a road cut into the side of a steep valley beyond the Sidquin village where Israeli artillery shells exploded in thick, dirty white plumes of smoke and dust.

00:11:59.000 One man hit in the face, half torn off by a missile, sat in his seat, his yellowing hand hanging out of the window.

00:12:07.000 Dead.

00:12:08.000 Beside him, covered in the dead man's blood, a woman moved Slightly back and forth.

00:12:15.000 Can you stand?

00:12:16.000 Ask a Red Cross volunteer.

00:12:18.000 The woman mumbled an incoherent response a few yards away. 0.96

00:12:22.000 Some of the survivors lay on the ground, moaning and crying.

00:12:26.000 Red Cross medics said that 19 people had been in the vehicle.

00:12:29.000 Again, I said 15.

00:12:30.000 I read this earlier.

00:12:31.000 I'm sorry.

00:12:31.000 It was 19.

00:12:33.000 All of them from Tyre, a small village 7 miles to the southeast.

00:12:39.000 And it goes on.

00:12:40.000 I have other reports of the dead splattered children all over the other roads.

00:12:45.000 I literally have a stack of seven articles similar to this in separate areas of southern Lebanon from the mainstream news.

00:12:50.000 I don't have time to read them.

00:12:51.000 I'm not going to.

00:12:52.000 We're posting them on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.

00:12:56.000 We're beating our brains out as hard as we can to bring you all of this coverage and news.

00:13:02.000 So this is the type of information I have in front of me.

00:13:06.000 From Op-Ed News, U.K.

00:13:09.000 government sources confirm war with Iran is on.

00:13:12.000 government sources confirm that war with Iran is on.

00:13:12.000 U.K.

00:13:15.000 In the last few days I learned from a credible and informed source that a former senior labor government minister who continues to be well connected to the British military and security officials confirms that Britain and the United States will quote go to war with Iran before the end of the year.

00:13:32.000 That's what we're getting from all of our sources as well, and it goes on to say that all of the military escalations we've seen in the Middle East right now, U.S.

00:13:41.000 Special Forces and British Special Forces have been in areas of Iran for over a year.

00:13:45.000 That was almost a year ago in the Seymour Hersh, Sy Hersh, ...report in the New Yorker, and Sy Hersh has always been very accurate and credible.

00:13:55.000 In fact, a lot of people are reporting it's worse than what Sy Hersh is saying.

00:13:59.000 So, all of this is happening.

00:14:00.000 They promised to go to war with Iran and Syria, and they've escalated it.

00:14:04.000 They'll send Israeli soldiers in across the border under orders. 0.52

00:14:08.000 They get captured.

00:14:10.000 Thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese have been captured, and there's all this hysteria and hype.

00:14:17.000 And the massive bombardment begins.

00:14:19.000 The Lebanese respond with Katyusha rockets. 1.00

00:14:22.000 And Israel rolls in with their military, bombing right up to the border with Syria.

00:14:27.000 And I have another report here, where Syria is saying that if Israel goes any deeper, and continues their invasion, that they may be forced to attack Israel, or to join the Lebanese.

00:14:46.000 Meanwhile, the Israelis tell Harats that we're not stopping now.

00:14:52.000 This is out of the Associated Press.

00:14:53.000 Heavy fighting continues deeper into Lebanon.

00:14:55.000 Israeli ground forces push deeper into the country in heavy fighting with Hezbollah guerrillas.

00:15:00.000 On Monday, Secretary of State Conway made a surprise visit to Lebanon to launch diplomatic efforts aimed at ending the 13 days of warfare.

00:15:10.000 That's total propaganda if you believe that.

00:15:12.000 I've got a bridge in Lebanon I'll happily sell you.

00:15:17.000 Trying to find it here.

00:15:18.000 Where's my report on I've got a report here.

00:15:23.000 Here it is.

00:15:24.000 This is out of French News Agency.

00:15:27.000 Syria will enter conflict if Israel invades Lebanon.

00:15:31.000 This came out today, AFP, up on Infowars.com for you.

00:15:36.000 A Syrian minister warned Israel in an interview published Sunday that a major ground incursion into Lebanon would draw his country into the Middle East conflict.

00:15:43.000 If Israel makes a land entry into Lebanon, they can get to within 20 kilometers of Damascus. 0.69

00:15:50.000 Information Minister Mohsen Battel told the Spanish newspaper ABC.

00:15:59.000 I don't really know what that statement means.

00:16:00.000 If Israel makes a land entry in Lebanon, they can get to within 20 kilometers of Damascus. 0.64

00:16:05.000 What will they do?

00:16:06.000 Stand by with their arms folded?

00:16:08.000 Absolutely not!

00:16:10.000 Without any doubt, Syria will intervene in the conflict.

00:16:14.000 Belal said Syria wanted Above all, a ceasefire as soon as possible, combined with a prisoner exchange, and indicated he was working to do that, to that end, with Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Martínez, whom he met in recent days in Madrid, Spain.

00:16:33.000 But, he added, Quote, I repeat, if Israelis make a land invasion of Lebanon and get near us, Syria will not stand by with arms folded.

00:16:45.000 It will enter the conflict.

00:16:47.000 Israel has said it wants to push Hezbollah militias 20 kilometers north of its border.

00:16:53.000 Bilal criticized the United States, saying that it was unjustified, that the superpower is not working for a rapid ceasefire.

00:17:01.000 He rejected claims by Washington that Damascus had armed Hezbollah, saying that it offered moral support, but added that we did not finance any resistance.

00:17:10.000 And I was on the Jerusalem Post this morning.

00:17:12.000 They had a light rocket-propelled grenade launcher.

00:17:17.000 A light RPG.

00:17:19.000 A tiny RPG on there.

00:17:21.000 It doesn't even show the grenade on the end of the launcher.

00:17:24.000 And they call it a... I've got it in the stack here.

00:17:28.000 A high-powered missile or something.

00:17:30.000 Let me dig and find it here.

00:17:32.000 Literally, folks.

00:17:34.000 It's a joke how many stories I have here in the stack.

00:17:36.000 But you can go look at it.

00:17:37.000 It's on drudge too.

00:17:39.000 And it's a tiny RPG.

00:17:43.000 They'll probably be calling it a...

00:17:45.000 Giant, moon-sized, enemy, space alien, command moon, or something.

00:17:51.000 I mean, they'll probably call it Puff the Magic Dragon to Mars, say it's a nuclear bomb.

00:17:56.000 And they'll say, look, Iran!

00:17:57.000 This was Iranian made! 1.00

00:17:59.000 It shows!

00:18:01.000 Iran's behind it! 1.00

00:18:03.000 That's basically what the article says.

00:18:06.000 The war drums are beating big time and I've got a big British newspaper report here with a terrifying headline that they're claiming that in Bulgaria that European Union security forces caught a British lorry, a British courier, trying to sneak in a bunch of dirty bomb material for Iran.

00:18:29.000 And if that doesn't sound staged, I don't know what is.

00:18:33.000 If Iran wants to make, quote, dirty bombs, they've got all the uranium they could ever want to do it. 0.94

00:18:39.000 They don't need to, quote, ship in dirty bomb fissile material.

00:18:45.000 It looks like they're now saying from x-ray machines.

00:18:48.000 This just sounds like it's staged.

00:18:51.000 But hey, we've got the White House memo where Bush and Blair say they can stage through a defector who quote claims they saw WMDs or get an American plane shot down, painted up like UN, flying low.

00:19:05.000 So we already have our own documents saying they'll try to stage stuff.

00:19:08.000 How many times have they planted WMDs?

00:19:10.000 Oh, Mobile Weapons Trucks for Anthrax!

00:19:13.000 Turns out they're British made, sold to Saddam, a whole bunch of them for pumping up surveillance blimps. 1.00

00:19:21.000 Remember that?

00:19:21.000 But I still hear neocons on air going, Well they found WMDs!

00:19:25.000 The Anthrax Trucks! 0.59

00:19:27.000 And they put out books.

00:19:29.000 Oh, books chronicling all the WMDs that were found.

00:19:33.000 I mean it is just The moon is made of cheese level baloney!

00:19:41.000 Oh my gosh, I mean I'm here looking at pictures of children blown up and women blown up with their faces blown off on the road.

00:19:46.000 I don't even know how my staff is supposed to post all this.

00:19:52.000 Ah, this is, this is all head spinning.

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00:24:12.000 Alright, your calls are coming up early in the next segment.

00:24:19.000 Look at this story out of the Associated Press today.

00:24:22.000 Soldiers in Iraq say they were ordered to kill all adult males.

00:24:27.000 And remember it was in the Ithaca Journal, big Ithaca paper up in New York, in 2002, when soldiers came back, we're going to write a story about this, and they said, oh yeah, we go into whole villages, we're ordered to kill men, women, and children.

00:24:41.000 And the Army then responded and said, and Fox News had the military's clarification, the Pentagon said, well, only in certain villages, yeah, if there's insurgents, we go in and kill everyone, with ground troops.

00:24:52.000 That was their clarification.

00:24:57.000 So, when they go in and they massacre these villages, massacre everybody in a house except one little girl, you know, who's ten years old and lays under her dead mother with her mother's intestines all over, the neocons get on talk radio and defend all of this.

00:25:11.000 Meanwhile, the soldiers have been ordered to do it.

00:25:14.000 El Paso, four U.S. 0.90

00:25:15.000 soldiers accused of murdering suspected insurgents during a raid in Iraq said they were under orders to kill all military-age males.

00:25:23.000 According to sworn statements obtained by the Associated Press, the soldiers first took some of the men into custody because they were using two women and a toddler as human shields.

00:25:34.000 Now again, that sounds reasonable, but once you start down that road, what happens when our troops get captured?

00:25:41.000 They'll just make something up about them, the enemy will, and do the same thing, and then in court, there's nothing we can do.

00:25:47.000 You see, you can't become the bad guys.

00:25:49.000 They shot three of the men after the women and children were safe and say the men attacked them. 0.66

00:25:56.000 The ROE rule of engagement was to kill all military age males on military objective... That's what it says.

00:26:03.000 It's kind of a weird military document. 0.98

00:26:06.000 Again, the ROE rule of engagement was to kill all military age males on objective Murray. 0.79

00:26:12.000 Staff Sergeant Raymond L. Gerard told investigators referring to the target by its code name.

00:26:22.000 It goes on, the target, an island on a canal in northern province was believed to be an Al Qaeda training camp.

00:26:30.000 The soldier said officers in their chain of command gave them the order and explained that special forces had tried before to target the island and had come under fire from insurgents.

00:26:43.000 Let me just say something.

00:26:44.000 I've talked to people who've been in Iraq who I'm personal friends with, who I believe and who I trust.

00:26:50.000 And it is true that some of the Arab fighters really do use children as human shields.

00:26:56.000 And that is the most cowardly thing I have ever heard of in my life. 0.72

00:27:04.000 And in some cases, their own children.

00:27:08.000 Now, in some of the other cases, it's not insurgents though, and it is families, and the families simply run out with their children, knowing that the house is being hit by mortar shells, hit by artillery, and that all they can do is run with their children and hope that the military sees them with their children so they don't all die.

00:27:29.000 That makes sense, but there are cases of insurgents, that I personally have documented from people I know, where they really do this, and it's the lowest of the low.

00:27:38.000 But again, that doesn't legitimize the war.

00:27:40.000 We shouldn't be over there to begin with.

00:27:43.000 Our government put Saddam in, set the whole stinking thing up, told him to go into Kuwait, told him we backed him up, shut him up, and now we've been waging 15 years of siege against the Iraqi people and their population's gone down by at least 2 million.

00:28:05.000 Gerard Hunsaker, Claggett, why aren't these troops have easy names to pronounce, are also charged with obstruction of justice for allegedly threatening to kill another soldier if he told authorities what happened.

00:28:17.000 See how the criminality grows?

00:28:19.000 They threatened to frag him.

00:28:21.000 In sworn testimonies and statements obtained by the Associated Press, the soldiers and a witness, Sgt.

00:28:28.000 Lionel Lemus, told Army investigators they were ordered to attack an island in northern Sal-Hunden province on May 9th and kill anti-Iraqi fighters with tithes to al-Qaeda.

00:28:43.000 All four soldiers charged are members of the Fort Campbell, Kentucky-based 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.

00:28:51.000 They have been jailed in Kuwait since their June arrest.

00:28:55.000 The first hearing is on August 1st near Tikrit, Iraq.

00:29:00.000 Michael Waddington, the civilian lawyer for the men, said his clients followed orders and killed the detainees in self-defense after he and Cleggett were attacked.

00:29:12.000 They did their job honorably.

00:29:13.000 They did it admirably, said Paul Bergen, the civilian attorney.

00:29:19.000 If they did want to kill these men, they could have been within the rules of engagement.

00:29:26.000 Whatever that means.

00:29:29.000 Well, I don't know how these men can be charged with murder when Bush openly gave the orders to the military to torture people in custody to death.

00:29:42.000 Gonzalez memos.

00:29:43.000 I mean, if you're going to charge these guys, you need to charge Bush and Gonzalez.

00:29:46.000 That's all I'm saying!

00:29:47.000 That's all I'm saying!

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:32:56.000 Alright, we're going to go to your phone calls for part of this last 30 minutes we've got left in this hour.

00:33:10.000 Then I'm going to get into an incredible report here.

00:33:14.000 Marshalls Innocent people placed on a watch list to meet quota.

00:33:20.000 Marshals say they must file one surveillance detection report, or SDR, per month.

00:33:28.000 That's what secret police do.

00:33:29.000 You create secret police, they go out and they find terrorists, folks.

00:33:33.000 And if they have to redefine terrorism, it's throwing bubblegum on the street like it is in certain Asian countries. 0.99

00:33:38.000 Because there are countries where if you throw bubblegum on the street, you get beaten and then put in jail for five years.

00:33:46.000 I'm not kidding.

00:33:47.000 And then this bizarre report I never covered Friday out of New York Daily News, where Hillary Clinton says that the corporations want to put brain chips in our children.

00:33:59.000 And she wasn't joking.

00:34:01.000 Of course, she's for it.

00:34:02.000 I have past statements of hers.

00:34:04.000 Yes, she's entered the twilight zone.

00:34:05.000 Another one here out of the New York Post.

00:34:06.000 Hillary gathers an army for her senatorial run, but it's designed and built to be a presidential run vehicle. 1.00

00:34:15.000 So I'm going to get into this.

00:34:17.000 Gas prices hit all-time highs.

00:34:20.000 All-time highs going right up close to $80 a barrel.

00:34:26.000 But in summation, in summation, I want to just finish up my statement as succinctly as possible about what's happening in the Middle East right now.

00:34:46.000 Israel, the United States, and England have been caught red-handed, it's been in US, Israeli, and British papers, carrying out and staging terror attacks in the Middle East for the last 53 years, multiple times yearly.

00:35:00.000 So how do we believe anything that our governments say about anything they're doing, ever, concerning the Middle East, or anything else for that matter?

00:35:11.000 Right on time, Bush says that he gives Iran an ultimatum, On their nuclear program, their peaceful program.

00:35:18.000 They don't totally cave in to losing their sovereignty to the international inspectors and for their peaceful program.

00:35:25.000 And so normal run-of-the-mill military incursions and captures that go on on both sides are suddenly hyped up to full-blown proportions.

00:35:37.000 Israel says they have a right to defend themselves.

00:35:39.000 They start bombarding the length and breadth of Lebanon. 0.98

00:35:44.000 The Lebanese intensify their attacks on Israel, firing thousands of Katyusha rockets.

00:35:52.000 The Israelis invade, and are now talking about going all the way into northern Lebanon. 0.81

00:35:58.000 They're bombing northern Lebanon. 0.57

00:36:00.000 The Syrians are foolishly, but they've got to, publicly, they've got to talk tough, or their people would run them out of town on a rail. 1.00

00:36:07.000 They're talking, and Syria has been groveling and licking boots to Israel the last five years. 0.99

00:36:12.000 They say if you keep attacking and keep driving people up into Syria, or you get near our border, we may have to come in on the side of the Lebanese. 0.85

00:36:24.000 All of this is an escalation for war!

00:36:27.000 Imagine if the Iranians had special forces troops all over our country, targeting and preparing targets with on-the-ground intelligence for the people in the Air Force who are picking targets. 0.94

00:36:41.000 And the folks in the Navy targeting with their cruise missiles and the Air Force.

00:36:47.000 Imagine how you'd like that.

00:36:48.000 Well, US troops are admittedly in Iran for over a year now.

00:36:54.000 It had been in the alternative press a year and a half ago.

00:36:54.000 We knew that.

00:36:57.000 Broke in the New Yorker magazine about a year ago.

00:37:00.000 And they're just taking it.

00:37:02.000 They're rolling over to it.

00:37:03.000 They've been trying to engage in detente.

00:37:05.000 They've been trying to go along.

00:37:08.000 But at a certain level, we don't even know if that's true, because Iran, we know, made deals with the CIA in 1979 to bring the Ayatollah Khomeini in.

00:37:17.000 We know our government made deals, the evidence shows, to be involved in the seizing of the embassy, a group within the government, to then demonize for some reason Jimmy Carter, to then bring in Ronald Reagan and make a deal to release the hostages upon Reagan entering office, and then we know Reagan made a deal to give him towed missiles, weapons, to then bring in Ronald Reagan and make a deal to release the hostages upon Reagan It's known as our Ram Contra.

00:37:39.000 And then we know in the late 1990s, $45-plus million Senate report put up by Republicans in 1999 by Alfonso D'Amatov.

00:37:47.000 They admitted that they were trying to sting Bill Clinton, but he was just following orders as a globalist.

00:37:52.000 I'm not defending him either.

00:37:53.000 The point is Republicans tried to play politics with that when it was actually old Republican chiefs advising Clinton the entire time, James Baker, Bush Sr.

00:38:00.000 and others.

00:38:01.000 The election of 93 was staged in this country.

00:38:05.000 They made a deal to send 45 million dollars, and that's the part they know about, to the Iranians, who then gave it to Osama Bin Laden, the known CIA asset, to attack the Serbs in the southern region of Kosovo and Pristina.

00:38:20.000 When the Serbs fought back, they were called evil terrorist demons by oppressing the wonderful Muslims, and now southern Serbia is now an Islamic regime, controlled by our government. 0.87

00:38:34.000 So all is not what it seems.

00:38:36.000 I'm here criticizing Israel for creating fake Al-Qaeda groups and carrying out attacks against itself, but we know the Iranians have been knee-deep with our own government. 0.95

00:38:44.000 For all we know, Ahmadinejad could have made a deal with the CIA, and all of this could be staged saber-rattling coming up for the election.

00:38:50.000 We don't know.

00:38:51.000 I tend to think it's real, and why do I say that?

00:38:53.000 Because this is black world, black op. 1.00

00:38:56.000 This is black is white, white is black, up is down, down is up, always flipping sides, always stabbing different people in the back. 0.99

00:39:02.000 This is total subterfuge.

00:39:05.000 All we know is it's order out of chaos, as Bush slipped up and once said.

00:39:09.000 We're creating order out of chaos, he said.

00:39:13.000 We know the Pentagon documents say they want to stay in Iraq for decades.

00:39:16.000 Cheney said for a hundred years, to get the hundreds of billions in weapons sales and no-bid contracts every year, to secure that oil and not let it flow, to then jack up prices via artificial scarcity.

00:39:29.000 It fits in with the oil company documents that admit they bought up hundreds of refineries, private refineries, and shut them down so they could reduce production.

00:39:38.000 And we know Dutch Rochelle a decade ago created the peak oil myth and has funded the fake environmental groups and people out there pushing it.

00:39:46.000 And so this is the road to war period, whether it stops at Lebanon or goes into Iran or Syria, this is the orchestration of World War III. 0.80

00:39:56.000 And the globalists are sending up trial balloons.

00:39:58.000 They're seeing if the world's going to accept this.

00:40:00.000 They're seeing if we'll buy it.

00:40:02.000 They're seeing if their approval ratings will go up if they do it.

00:40:05.000 And if we do buy into it, it's over.

00:40:06.000 We're going into World War III.

00:40:10.000 The neocons actually call it World War IV in their public policy strategy documents and meetings we've even been at.

00:40:16.000 They had a meeting two years ago here in Austin at UT called the New World Order Symposium.

00:40:21.000 A group of three meetings.

00:40:22.000 We have cameras there.

00:40:22.000 We have that video.

00:40:23.000 We ought to put that on the web.

00:40:24.000 Put it on the TV show.

00:40:25.000 Former Director of the CIA calls it World War Four.

00:40:30.000 And Professor Lino Graglia says we should put all Arabs in the US in camps.

00:40:39.000 Oh my goodness!

00:40:40.000 This is the type of stuff we're dealing with, ladies and gentlemen, as a people.

00:40:45.000 Being pushed into a war for no good reason.

00:40:49.000 You better believe if we go into Iran, the deals have been made to let China go into Taiwan. 0.83

00:40:54.000 That's what the globalists do.

00:40:58.000 It's like World War II. 0.56

00:40:59.000 They let Stalin grab certain areas.

00:41:02.000 Even work with Hitler. 0.94

00:41:03.000 Then a few months later, he's our buddy and we work with him.

00:41:05.000 It was staged from the beginning.

00:41:07.000 They even set up Hitler. 0.98

00:41:10.000 Then they started stabbing each other in the backs. 0.95

00:41:12.000 That's how these people operate.

00:41:16.000 Alright, I've said my piece on it.

00:41:21.000 Dino in Oregon, go ahead, you're on the air, welcome.

00:41:24.000 Hey Alex, thanks for all your work.

00:41:28.000 First of all, this thing going on in Lebanon, have you noticed the video coverage of the missile attacks on Israel are scant at best and they keep repeating the same old tired video of a rocket hitting a piece of pavement?

00:41:42.000 Yes, I mean it's a pathetic, impotent, anemic counter-strike by Hezbollah Hezbollah said they didn't fire one rocket. 0.99

00:41:51.000 In fact, the last live statement by the leader of Hezbollah, he said he did not fire a rocket. 0.72

00:41:57.000 I think the Mossad is in there doing this.

00:42:00.000 Well, again, if Mossad in Haraj and Jerusalem Post, and we have these posted on InfoWars.com, these articles from years ago, if they admit they've staged attacks on themselves in the past, again, you can't believe anything they say, and yes, they stand to gain from all of this, and the whole thing could be staged.

00:42:17.000 How could you fire 2,200 rockets and only kill 3,700 people.

00:42:21.000 That's the worst I've ever seen.

00:42:22.000 It's obvious that their government's doing it.

00:42:25.000 Israeli government is firing rockets to provoke whatever they want to provoke.

00:42:31.000 Well, you know, there's no way for one person to be aware of all the coverage.

00:42:35.000 I did not see the leader of Hezbollah saying they haven't fired rockets. 0.99

00:42:39.000 Where did you see this?

00:42:40.000 This was on CNN.

00:42:43.000 Wow, well we'll have to find a clip of that.

00:42:45.000 No, I watch all the media just because I know I gotta watch the enemy to make sure.

00:42:49.000 Oh, I agree!

00:42:50.000 Did you see Cheney was in crutches the other day?

00:42:52.000 They let that slip.

00:42:53.000 I saw him in crutches standing behind the prince in the Oval Office and they clipped it real quick and they didn't show it again.

00:42:59.000 And he was in crutches a few months ago.

00:43:01.000 I don't think Lord Vader's in very good shape.

00:43:03.000 I think Lord Vader's in danger.

00:43:05.000 I believe so.

00:43:07.000 And also I wanted to talk to you about, did you see the images of the Israeli children signing the uh... rounds that are firing at Lebanon.

00:43:15.000 Oh yeah, the big artillery shells.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, we posted that last Thursday.

00:43:18.000 Thank you for posting that.

00:43:20.000 I mean, that is really sick.

00:43:22.000 Field trips with the little kids out there all signing the shells.

00:43:26.000 Terrorism is attacking civilians at its base route, and Israel is attacking civilians.

00:43:32.000 Even by their own numbers, if Hezbollah is firing the rockets, they are attacking and killing mostly 37, 20 of them were military.

00:43:40.000 Well, let's be clear here.

00:43:42.000 Israel tells those villages, those five villages, to evacuate, and as they evacuate, helicopters and jets target vehicles with people sitting up on top of them, families, children.

00:43:53.000 I mean, you can see it.

00:43:54.000 They fly in, they've got detailed imagery, they blow them to bits, it's a big joke.

00:43:59.000 And then when they get to the bridges where they're supposed to evacuate, those have been blown.

00:44:03.000 First they blow all the bridges so the people in the South can't escape, so there can be a big massacre.

00:44:08.000 And then they even let slip quotes to stop insurgents from moving.

00:44:11.000 Then they tell people you better flee, and when they flee, they line up their vehicles on the roads and blow them up like the highway of death.

00:44:17.000 I want to tell you also that thanks for the current news, and also I've been telling as many people as I can about 9-11.

00:44:24.000 I stopped a whole restaurant and told them about 9-11.

00:44:27.000 Just real concise, saying 9-11's an inside job, look up loose change, research Professor Jones at BYU Physics.

00:44:33.000 Buildings cannot collapse like that, and then I leave them with at least enough information.

00:44:37.000 I think people are waking up.

00:44:39.000 Well, I want you to keep plugging loose change, and we carry loose change second edition on DVD.

00:44:43.000 Everybody should get it, but I would appreciate an occasional plug for Terror Storm.

00:44:47.000 I'm so proud of this film.

00:44:48.000 Nobody's going to know about it unless you guys promote it.

00:44:50.000 Thanks for the call, Dino.

00:44:52.000 Let's talk to Zach in New York.

00:44:53.000 Zach, you're on the air.

00:44:55.000 Hi.

00:44:55.000 Hello.

00:44:56.000 I've got a question for you.

00:44:57.000 I was wondering, how do you imagine a true anti-war movement, like a Cindy Sheehan thing, beginning to coalesce?

00:45:05.000 And I was wondering what kind of COINTELPRO interference and infiltration would have to be dealt with?

00:45:11.000 Well, anything that's massive and nationwide and uncoordinated, they can't infiltrate with provocateurs or troublemakers.

00:45:18.000 That's why I'm always saying leaderless resistance, small groups, you being a leader in your area.

00:45:24.000 What's happened in the last five years, so many anti-New World Order groups have popped up, so many truth groups have popped up, so many patriot groups, that now the globalists have totally lost control.

00:45:34.000 We're not seeing, even myself, A lot of provocateurs and government minions.

00:45:40.000 Also, we've won the hearts and minds of many government agents now, and so the globalists are having, in their own statements, admit this, are having trouble recruiting and getting people to come out and do illegal things.

00:45:51.000 Most little federal minions that try to set people up in a sick way have convinced themselves that they're on the good guy's side.

00:45:58.000 So we've now got the moral authority, and even their minions are now waking up, sir.

00:46:05.000 Uh, my one other comment was, uh, I was wondering when the Terror Storm DVDs will have shipped, because, uh... Well, you know what?

00:46:12.000 We still haven't even gotten it off to the manufacturer yet.

00:46:14.000 We have had... We've been busy doing ten other jobs while we're trying to do this, and...

00:46:21.000 Upteam problems with the menus, and then trying to write articles, and trying to do other things, and all the extras, all of it.

00:46:28.000 That's why we said, get the DVD that doesn't have the extras now, and then get the DVD that has over an hour of extras when it comes out.

00:46:36.000 I'm talking about the one you signed, so I'll be waiting patiently.

00:46:39.000 Okay, thank you sir, I appreciate it.

00:46:41.000 And we normally ship within two days UPS About three or four years ago, we normally ship in about a week, and then you got another week, so it might take two weeks to get a package.

00:46:52.000 Up until before our 9-11 Neocon Agenda Symposium, we had gotten to where we were shipping Monday through Friday, the day after we got the order, or the day of.

00:47:01.000 On average, I'd say the day after.

00:47:04.000 Okay.

00:47:05.000 Because of the 9-11 Neocon Agenda Symposium, I'm going to be honest, we got a week and a half behind. 0.94

00:47:11.000 We didn't even ship stuff for about a week and a half.

00:47:12.000 It piled up.

00:47:13.000 We are now only about four days behind.

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00:47:28.000 Any orders that came in, you know, a couple weeks ago, those have now been shipped.

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00:54:09.000 Let's go to Bradley in Tennessee.

00:54:12.000 Bradley, thanks for holding.

00:54:13.000 Welcome.

00:54:14.000 Hi Alex.

00:54:16.000 shed a little philosophic light on the human condition today for the listeners, and hopefully it'll make sense.

00:54:26.000 Whenever you look at the human condition from a higher perspective, in my opinion, you know, you can kind of realize and see that these Kingmakers and, you know, the wicked in the world, they exist for a reason.

00:54:42.000 They exist to They exist to help us flex our muscles and fulfill our potential that we were created with.

00:54:56.000 And I'd like to say to them that they need to come to the light.

00:55:02.000 They need to change their ways.

00:55:05.000 And I'd also like to say to those who persist in their ways that what they're doing is they're being our dumbbell that we exercise with.

00:55:14.000 They're being humanity's dumbbell.

00:55:16.000 Well, what it is, is they're greedy, they are temporal, they are only focused on themselves, they are controlling, they are hateful, and that's why throughout history it is almost always the case, 99% of the time, that you have evil, wicked, intelligent, abusive, sadistic controllers that are in power.

00:55:36.000 Because good people, number one, don't have the taste for power, number two, aren't willing to do the things it takes to maintain power, and number three, have a moral compass, and so, with our own conscience, couldn't live with ourselves doing those bad things.

00:55:50.000 And the globalists make fun of us and laugh at us publicly about how weak-minded we are.

00:55:54.000 No, we're not weak because we don't get off on killing kids.

00:55:58.000 We're not weak because we're not willing to put AIDS virus and millions of vaccine ampules.

00:56:03.000 We're not weak because we, you know, just go, ah, so what if there's AIDS in this drug?

00:56:07.000 Give it to all the kids.

00:56:08.000 No, no, we're not weak. 1.00

00:56:10.000 You are cancers, you are malfunctioning trash, you are the scourge of humanity, holding back our unbelievable potential. 0.96

00:56:19.000 So I see your view that in a way they actually empower our potential, and I think to a certain extent they do, but overall, I think especially Once evil blooms and blossoms and spreads to this level, then it actually holds back our potential. 0.97

00:56:33.000 Absolutely.

00:56:33.000 Well, we have to resist it.

00:56:35.000 We have to resist it with everything that we have.

00:56:38.000 And that is what causes us to grow.

00:56:41.000 But the second that we relinquish, the second that we put down our will to resist, they rise up very quickly.

00:56:51.000 I agree.

00:56:52.000 They're encouraged by that.

00:56:53.000 Thanks for the call.

00:56:55.000 Elaborating on what he just said, think of McDonald's, think of not purifying your water, think of not eating organic food as letting the enemy shoot arrows into you.

00:57:06.000 When you sit down and you mindlessly watch four or five hours of TV, think of that as an enemy device literally attacking your psyche and your future and your life.

00:57:16.000 You're not on the green belt.

00:57:17.000 You're not hiking around the mountains.

00:57:18.000 You're not in the swimming pool with your children.

00:57:20.000 You're not spending time with your grandmother, you know, who's dying of bed sores right now, a hundred miles away in a nursing home you never visit.

00:57:26.000 You are literally being zombified, being mesmerized.

00:57:29.000 You're not living your life.

00:57:32.000 You're allowing yourself to be enslaved, to be poisoned.

00:57:35.000 I'm not saying you can't go to a movie or go to a concert occasionally, but your entire life isn't about laying supine on your back watching television or just guzzling beer.

00:57:46.000 I mean, we're all under this attack of all these drugs, the legal stuff, you know, the coffee and the beer and the food.

00:57:54.000 You know, literally, they're killing us with kindness.

00:57:57.000 They're killing us with domestication. 1.00

00:57:59.000 We're like a bunch of big, fat, stupid pigs in a huge trough, just gobbling and enjoying ourselves. 1.00

00:58:05.000 But really, it's laced with a time-activated poison. 1.00

00:58:09.000 And the globalists know that we're so mesmerized by their false media reality they project that they can write best-selling books.

00:58:17.000 Where they talk about how we're slaves and how they're going to kill us and how they're going to bring in their world government.

00:58:21.000 I mean, it's just hidden in plain view.

00:58:23.000 They can officially sign the American Union and be telling Texas business owners they're now under the American Union.

00:58:30.000 Did you know that's now official?

00:58:31.000 I have the documents.

00:58:33.000 I mean, it's just incredible.

00:58:36.000 We'll be right back with the second hour.

00:58:37.000 Stay with us.

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00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:53.000 You want answers?

00:58:55.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 Clifford Carnicom will join us for an hour plus to talk about chemtrails, aerial spraying.

00:59:25.000 What's really going on, the latest developments there, and going back over his six, seven years of research on this.

00:59:30.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls, Tim, Williamson, or Wilson, and others.

00:59:34.000 Tim in West Virginia, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

00:59:37.000 Hello Alex, this is Tim, I'm back in West Virginia there.

00:59:42.000 What I wanted to call you about, I received a call from a survey, a presidential survey, they was wanting the ratings on Bush.

00:59:49.000 They wanted to know if maybe Bush's rating was a little bit higher than what the biased media was reporting it to be.

00:59:55.000 So it was a fake neocon call?

00:59:57.000 Right, right.

00:59:58.000 So I said, okay, do you care to participate in the survey?

01:00:01.000 I said, sure.

01:00:03.000 So then he put someone on there and gives us a drumroll about giving comfort and aid to the enemy and all that stuff.

01:00:11.000 So, Dr. Ray says, how do you rate that?

01:00:14.000 I said, well, I say his rating is lower than what they were reporting.

01:00:18.000 Let me see, well, why do you think that?

01:00:20.000 I said, well, uh, okay, uh, I'll give you one word, William Rodriguez.

01:00:26.000 He didn't know what that was.

01:00:27.000 I said, okay, 9-11, inside job, Bush did it, should be charged for treason and executed.

01:00:34.000 And he said, uh, what?

01:00:36.000 I said, uh, yeah.

01:00:38.000 He said, no, Clinton done that, and he hung up on me.

01:00:41.000 So you've got some neocon polling agency calling, that's called a push poll by the way, should our leader be able to protect us from terrorists?

01:00:49.000 And then the headline, the people support Bush and the war on terror.

01:00:54.000 I mean, I've gotten calls like that before, and then they'll put out a little fake neocon report.

01:00:59.000 Right.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, that's what I thought was kind of funny.

01:01:03.000 They were saying the past leader Are you kidding?

01:01:08.000 The so-called liberal media is busy spinning and lying and acting like Bush actually runs something. 0.84

01:01:12.000 The guy's a puppet to begin with.

01:01:14.000 Hey, good job, Tim.

01:01:16.000 I appreciate your call.

01:01:18.000 The only thing I disagree with is I'm not going to come on here and say I think Bush should be executed. 0.99

01:01:21.000 He's a puppet. 0.99

01:01:22.000 I think he deserves a jury by his peers. 0.82

01:01:25.000 He needs to be brought to trial for treason, and then the sentence needs to be carried out.

01:01:29.000 Let's talk to, and I would just advise our listeners never to really talk like that, Because you can get in a lot of trouble for saying that.

01:01:36.000 And I'm not condescending against the caller.

01:01:39.000 I just don't want our good people to get in trouble.

01:01:39.000 Sounds like a great person.

01:01:42.000 Let's talk to Wilson in Arkansas.

01:01:44.000 Wilson, welcome.

01:01:45.000 Well, thank you for taking my call.

01:01:46.000 I've got a quick comment and an unrelated question.

01:01:49.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:01:50.000 My comment is to Christians, and this is as a Christian, to those who support Israel no matter what Israel does.

01:01:56.000 Evil is evil, and no one has the right to do it.

01:01:58.000 Tribulation and anguish comes upon every man that does evil, to the Jew first and also the Gentile. 0.98

01:02:03.000 Glory and honor and peace to every man that works good, to the Jew first and also to the Gentiles and Romans, if anybody wants to check it out.

01:02:10.000 Nobody has a right to do evil, just because you're called Israel, whatever.

01:02:14.000 Evil's evil, period.

01:02:15.000 My question was, what's your take on the Leo Wanta $4.5 trillion settlement articles that are floating around the internet?

01:02:25.000 And I'll take your comment off of that.

01:02:27.000 You know, thank you.

01:02:28.000 I don't know what to say about that.

01:02:29.000 I don't know if that's accurate or if that's real or what's going on.

01:02:33.000 Properly research it, and that's basically where I'll leave it.

01:02:37.000 There's a lot of stuff on the web that, you know, you can't confirm one way or the other, so I just move away from it.

01:02:43.000 For those that just joined us, Israel admits they're targeting civilian convoys that they told to flee, and the convoys in southern Lebanon, out of five major towns and villages, run up against the bridges that have been bombed out, and then here come the helicopters and jets firing Hellfire missiles and dropping 500-pound bombs and scraping them.

01:03:04.000 And there are photos and video, and it's all over the foreign press of dead families splattered all over the road, but you're not really seeing that.

01:03:10.000 You're seeing a censored version, a watered-down version on our news.

01:03:14.000 So, in part of the third hour today, I'll get more into that.

01:03:19.000 I mentioned a bunch of news in the last hour I was going to get into, and I haven't yet.

01:03:24.000 I will cover it.

01:03:25.000 It's up on InfoWars.com right now.

01:03:27.000 Marshals!

01:03:28.000 Innocent people placed on watch list to meet quota.

01:03:36.000 Oh my gosh.

01:03:36.000 This is out of Denver.

01:03:39.000 This is out of TV Channel 7.

01:03:45.000 And it is admitted that they are putting innocent people's names on terrorist watch lists.

01:03:50.000 We'll get to that later.

01:03:50.000 Later.

01:03:50.000 Stay with us.

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01:06:57.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:02.000 Before we get into this next subject of the government and private agencies, groups, organizations, black ops, Black world. 1.00

01:07:12.000 Corporations.

01:07:14.000 Syndicates.

01:07:15.000 Carrying out aerial spraying against the American people.

01:07:19.000 I want to just set the table here.

01:07:23.000 And I hope to keep Clifford Carnicom at least halfway into the next hour so we have plenty of time to take your calls.

01:07:29.000 I remember long before we had even heard of chemtrails, instead of contrails, condensation trails.

01:07:34.000 Reading in declassified government documents in 77 that there have been over 3,000 declassified instances of aerial spraying of chemical, biological, and radiological materials, and then a whole other section of particulates that didn't fit into those four, being sprayed on the American people.

01:07:57.000 And I like to go back to really famous cases of the few that have been actually heard of.

01:08:02.000 Aircraft and Navy ships sprayed biological agents that did cause deaths.

01:08:07.000 That's mainstream news.

01:08:08.000 Details remain classified.

01:08:10.000 That's what was declassified in 77.

01:08:12.000 In the ship channel, you know, the Golden Gate Bridge area of San Francisco in 1949.

01:08:20.000 In 1968, time-release bio-agents were released from the New York subway at 9 a.m.

01:08:26.000 in the morning, in 1968.

01:08:28.000 Death resulted.

01:08:29.000 Army doctors were at nearby hospitals, quote, in residency in the months before so that they could chronicle for themselves what the effects were.

01:08:39.000 They had never told us what the biological agent was, only that it was a bacterium.

01:08:48.000 There's two famous examples.

01:08:49.000 I've interviewed a bunch of sailors and Air Force officers and I've interviewed British soldiers and whistleblowers and it's been in the BBC and AP and it's been everywhere that from the 1940s until 1985 Project Shad from Hawaii to Germany would have troops stand out in a field say in Wales and jets would fly over at 500 feet and spray a chemical weapon on them and troops would die on the spot and troops would die a week later and troops would die five years later and some are still alive.

01:09:17.000 Or they tell a young officer, you get an extra three-day leave if you sign in for a flu test.

01:09:24.000 We're going to spray you with flu and see, you know, it's for the country.

01:09:27.000 Then the guy signs it and they walk him in the chamber, hit him with VX nerve gas. 0.66

01:09:30.000 He dies.

01:09:31.000 They dissect the body.

01:09:34.000 Folks, there are thousands of these, literally.

01:09:37.000 Listen, I've read hundreds and hundreds and hundreds myself, okay?

01:09:41.000 And then I've looked at lists of thousands.

01:09:42.000 I cannot cover it all.

01:09:44.000 I would be here talking for eternity.

01:09:47.000 Two years ago, let's use a newer example.

01:09:50.000 It's in the Daily Oklahoma.

01:09:51.000 It's in the Oklahoma Papers that 5,000 pounds of Subtilis Globoge, a bacteria that can cause spontaneous abortions in all mammal mammalian species, and is listed by the federal government and the Army as dangerous, Was sprayed on every town and city over a one year period.

01:10:15.000 Five thousand pounds!

01:10:19.000 You can read in the Daily Oklahoma, 5,000 pounds of Subtilis Globogee will be sprayed in hundreds of different operations by small fixed-wing aircraft over the next year by the Department of Homeland Security in a test of the wind patterns of a biological release.

01:10:32.000 It is completely safe.

01:10:33.000 Then you go read what Subtilis Globogee is.

01:10:37.000 It causes upper respiratory problems, abortions, blood infections, everything.

01:10:43.000 Just go look it up.

01:10:45.000 That's one more case of thousands.

01:10:47.000 White Rock, New Mexico sprang on and on and on and on. 0.98

01:10:52.000 Black men. 0.98

01:10:53.000 It first came out over 45 years that they just let them die of syphilis and spread it. 0.98

01:10:57.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:10:58.000 Now it's come out they gave it to them.

01:11:00.000 They've caught the UN in over 100 countries with over 10 different manufacturers putting a pathogen hormone attached to the tetanus pathogen to sterilize women.

01:11:12.000 On and on and on.

01:11:14.000 Bayer, for over 10 years, knowingly knew their factor 8, every dose had AIDS in it and Hepatitis C, and that everyone was going to get it who took it.

01:11:23.000 And their own documents are now public, MSNBC. 0.95

01:11:27.000 It's all public that they knowingly said, so what, let them die.

01:11:31.000 So I don't want to hear that the government wasn't sprayed with something because I cannot even chronicle how many instances there are.

01:11:38.000 Now, let me add this, and we're going to flip our corner column.

01:11:42.000 Who I am just so proud of.

01:11:44.000 He put it out for free.

01:11:44.000 He made a documentary.

01:11:46.000 They sell it for, he didn't even sell it for $2 a piece for shipping.

01:11:49.000 We've got a link to it on InfoWars.com.

01:11:49.000 They stream it for free.

01:11:51.000 That's when you care, folks.

01:11:54.000 I think you ought to charge a little more so you can have more funds to fund his operation.

01:11:57.000 But he's done some of the best research out there.

01:11:59.000 But C'est La Vie, he just gives it out for free.

01:12:02.000 Free stream of it.

01:12:03.000 And then you can also get it for the cost of shipping.

01:12:10.000 But before I go any further, there are nuts everywhere who point at every condensation trail and discredit all of us.

01:12:16.000 And say, that's a chemical trail, that's a chemical... No, no.

01:12:19.000 If they're spraying at 30,000 feet, all the evidence shows they're either hitting somebody 5-10,000 miles away where the jet stream comes down to ground...

01:12:28.000 Or, they are engaging in atmospheric manipulations, which we have documents on.

01:12:32.000 Weather control.

01:12:33.000 There's a bunch of different stuff going on.

01:12:35.000 People all try to say it's this or it's that.

01:12:37.000 No.

01:12:37.000 As usual, it's a cocktail of different operations.

01:12:40.000 But, we had reports before people ever heard of contrails in 1998-97.

01:12:45.000 I have people I know personally who saw it, and then other witnesses separate that didn't know it, saw it the same day.

01:12:51.000 Black helicopter flies over.

01:12:53.000 Mike Hanson and Steve Lane saw it while they were building a house out in Belton.

01:12:58.000 Flies over to school, sprays it.

01:12:59.000 Everybody gets sick, vomiting, diarrhea.

01:13:02.000 It was on national TV.

01:13:03.000 Remember that?

01:13:06.000 We have all seen this type of stuff go on.

01:13:08.000 This has been reported on.

01:13:09.000 There's a bunch of declassified instances of it.

01:13:11.000 So, if they're going to spray your town, it's going to be from 2,000 feet or lower.

01:13:15.000 Normally, 1,500 feet.

01:13:16.000 Helicopter and fixed-wing.

01:13:18.000 And there is chemtrail spraying.

01:13:20.000 I remember in 97, 98 it started.

01:13:23.000 Before anybody even had talked about it, I said, why do trails, and I never knew the answer, that used to disappear in a few seconds to a minute, why are they there four hours later?

01:13:33.000 Why do they all form a haze?

01:13:34.000 Now NASA admits the Earth is 20% darker than it was 30 years ago.

01:13:40.000 Now it's in mainstream government textbooks that they are spraying.

01:13:44.000 Joining us is Clifford Carnicom.

01:13:47.000 Sir, thank you for holding during that introduction.

01:13:49.000 We are so honored to have you.

01:13:50.000 Let me just give folks your bio.

01:13:53.000 Clifford Carnicom, who has been actively involved in bringing attention to the chemtrail phenomenon, has been a self-employed professional computer consultant for the past three years and now resides in Santa Fe, New Mexico with his wife Carol.

01:14:04.000 He is previously a research scientist and federal employee for 15 years with three different agencies, including the United States Department of Defense, the Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S.

01:14:12.000 Forest Service.

01:14:13.000 His technical background is extensive in the fields of Science, I guess that's geodietic, if I'm pronouncing that right.

01:14:21.000 Science, advanced mathematics, computer science, and the physical sciences.

01:14:25.000 And that's the bio from Coast to Coast AM.

01:14:27.000 Clever Carnicom again, thanks for joining us.

01:14:29.000 Alex, thanks very much for the opportunity to be here.

01:14:31.000 I truly appreciate it.

01:14:33.000 And I also thank you for establishing that precedent as you did in that opening segment, which is very, very true.

01:14:39.000 And, you know, you referred to 1977, and I have a document that was given to me Shortly after I started this research, that is very clear documentation of the long history and litany of open-air testing.

01:14:55.000 This particular document concerns congressional hearings that were held in 1977 that basically raised the question, it's an acknowledgment, that the U.S.

01:15:04.000 population has been openly tested and or experimented or operated upon.

01:15:10.000 And U.S.

01:15:11.000 Code Title 50, Chapter 36?

01:15:15.000 U.S.

01:15:15.000 Code, Chapter 50... I've got to say this code real fast to be able to get it out right.

01:15:21.000 That's how my memory works.

01:15:22.000 U.S.

01:15:22.000 Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A, Paragraph B says they're allowed to use lethal chemical, biological, or radiological agents on the American people for research.

01:15:33.000 Sorry.

01:15:35.000 And, you know, this is 30 years later, but the opening line of these hearings is just amazing to me because it's basically Unfortunate, but it appears that after 30 years there's been really no progress made.

01:15:47.000 I'd like to read this one sentence, if I can, in the opening line to these hearings.

01:15:51.000 It says, Recent revelations of simulant open air testing in civilian areas have alarmed many people.

01:15:57.000 Their concern extends beyond the safety or hazards presented by the test organisms.

01:16:01.000 However, it goes to the heart of what a free society is all about.

01:16:05.000 Should a democratic people cede to its government the full responsibility of determining when secret tests on unwitting subjects are necessary to protect the nation's security?

01:16:16.000 That was Kennedy, back when Kennedy actually did some work in 1977, and I really give him credit because he raised the fundamental issue, which is really the very same issue now, and that is, what limit is there, what threshold is there to the claim or guise

01:16:35.000 of national security as the as a domain that is untouchable no matter what the circumstances are and this is a world that we're in now national security is used as a defense, a hidden defense as to any and all of these operations that the the public has an obvious right to know but are put under the cloak of supposedly protecting us and Kennedy nailed it Uh, 30 years ago in that statement.

01:17:01.000 Well, it's a blank check for total tyranny.

01:17:03.000 Oh, we're having no-bid contracts.

01:17:05.000 National security.

01:17:06.000 Oh, we're secretly arresting you.

01:17:07.000 National security. 0.98

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01:17:10.000 National security.

01:17:11.000 I mean, it's a perfect pretext for dictatorship.

01:17:14.000 It is, and I thank you for establishing precedent because that's a good ground plane to start on is for people to realize You know, this is not something that needs to be imagined or constructed.

01:17:25.000 This is very real, has a long history.

01:17:27.000 What is different about this operation that I became involved in researching at the beginning of 1999... Is that it's so huge?

01:17:35.000 ...is the scale and magnitude of the operation, and also the arrogance.

01:17:38.000 The scale and the arrogance of the operation.

01:17:40.000 And that is, we are now in a state of affairs where we have open-air testing on a global scale Direct lying about it from top officials.

01:17:51.000 United States Air Force lied early in the game.

01:17:53.000 A direct lie to the American public.

01:17:56.000 Calling this a hoax without any real documentation of any kind to support their claim.

01:18:02.000 And the scale and arrogance and magnitude of the effect is what's different.

01:18:07.000 And that is important.

01:18:08.000 It's not the same as conducting some localized test for some defensive project.

01:18:13.000 This is open air Operations.

01:18:16.000 It's not a test.

01:18:18.000 This thing is in place.

01:18:19.000 Our atmosphere has been changed.

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01:18:24.000 It's not a matter of some little test pilot.

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01:18:30.000 We all are.

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01:23:06.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

01:23:08.000 Clifford Carnicom is our guest talking about chemtrails.

01:23:11.000 There's only one part of the chemical biological testing going on against us.

01:23:15.000 I would say that it's kind of a dual axis.

01:23:17.000 We've got Everything happening in the air, in the water, they poison the water, they poison the air, they've been caught red-handed doing it, they institutionalize what they're doing right in front of our faces many times.

01:23:29.000 It's the arrogance, the sodium chloride, the stannous fluoride and the rest of it, documented to be deadly poison.

01:23:35.000 But then you have the vaccines that are also poisoning you through those.

01:23:38.000 See, if they're admitted to have done all this horrible stuff in the past, how do you then now trust them to take your vaccines?

01:23:44.000 If one of the biggest pharmacological companies in the world, Bayer, would knowingly put AIDS virus in your drugs, knowingly, knowingly, and hepatitis C, knowingly, knowing it was in there, And still selling it, then what would the government and these other groups do?

01:24:00.000 So I don't want to hear it's too dastardly, too big.

01:24:02.000 Clifford Carnicom, how did you wake up to this, and then get into the atmosphere manipulation, and then shift into the biological effects of that, and then the biological effects of the other spring we know is going on?

01:24:13.000 My work started at the very beginning of 1999, Alex, in February.

01:24:19.000 We go outside quite a bit.

01:24:21.000 My wife and I go camping quite a bit, and I have a background that's outdoors quite a bit.

01:24:25.000 And I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico, which is a high desert region.

01:24:29.000 Certainly one of the classic regions for high desert, blue skies, just beautiful vistas.

01:24:35.000 Many artists live here because of that.

01:24:38.000 And so it's actually an ideal laboratory for a person who wants to be in a certain place to examine this issue.

01:24:43.000 And February 14th, it was Valentine's Day, was the day that I actually started to work.

01:24:51.000 And it had been preceded by several weeks of noticing a pattern That we would head out on our trips for the morning of the weekend.

01:24:59.000 It would look absolutely beautiful when we would wake up.

01:25:01.000 Very typical weather conditions for the high desert southwest.

01:25:04.000 And then we'd have breakfast and about an hour and a half later we'd go out and the weather had completely changed.

01:25:09.000 And that was acting really at a subconscious level for two to three weeks.

01:25:13.000 And then on that February 14th, I was out the door.

01:25:17.000 At the time it was still perfectly blue and this aircraft went directly overhead.

01:25:22.000 And what was different this time is I just watched.

01:25:24.000 I'm sure it was being triggered at a subconscious level, but this time I just stood and I just watched.

01:25:30.000 And I watched the transition take place for the first time.

01:25:33.000 And the amazing thing is that a major transition can actually take place in about a half hour of time if the operation is large enough.

01:25:41.000 So you can completely transform.

01:25:44.000 The atmosphere in a regional area in a fairly... You can watch a clear sky be totally filled with these trails that just stay there.

01:25:53.000 Oh, I've counted and a couple times I have counted over a hundred passes.

01:25:57.000 You can't say individual aircraft, but over a hundred passes within a two-hour period.

01:26:02.000 They just blanket the sky and completely alter it.

01:26:05.000 And so I started taking photographs and showed that progression for the very first time.

01:26:10.000 That you had an unnatural situation that was taking place, and I simply opened the door by posting the photographs on the website, and really just raised the issue.

01:26:19.000 I mean, that's sort of my style.

01:26:21.000 I wasn't trying to... I knew it was wrong.

01:26:23.000 At a gut level, I knew it was wrong.

01:26:25.000 At the very least, you would call this a question of pollution.

01:26:28.000 Then the website started, and at that point, it was fairly clear, very soon, that there was an interest in my work.

01:26:36.000 By military, industrial, chemical, pharmaceutical, medical, chemical, complex.

01:26:45.000 It was very shortly after you would find out.

01:26:48.000 I was just an individual, really, pretty low-key person.

01:26:51.000 I was a quiet and conservative federal employee.

01:26:53.000 They were living on your website!

01:26:55.000 But I was drawing attention very early in the game because my work is more of an analytical nature, that's for sure.

01:27:00.000 It's, you know, observation and analysis, that's my background.

01:27:04.000 And then it started from there and from that point on I started my work and ended up, I've spent a probably good six years.

01:27:10.000 The past year I have not been actively involved in research because I've reached really thresholds of what I can do.

01:27:17.000 It does look like there's another subject I'm going to be getting involved in.

01:27:20.000 But there are literally thousands of pages I would assume that I have written now over six years and devoted pretty much my entire life.

01:27:27.000 to this issue to basically call alarm.

01:27:30.000 That was my that was my purpose to call alarm.

01:27:32.000 This is not something that is solved by a person.

01:27:35.000 This is not something... Yeah, certainly.

01:27:36.000 You're just you're just alerting people to something strange going on.

01:27:40.000 When did this start?

01:27:40.000 For me, I mean for me, I'm about 97, 98.

01:27:43.000 I began to notice the trails that disappeared within a minute maximum would be there four or five hours later.

01:27:49.000 Clear skies would be turned into these trails that just expanded and merged.

01:27:54.000 And then NASA comes out and says suddenly the Earth is 20% darker.

01:27:58.000 Just on the weather control angle of this, what's going on?

01:28:02.000 Well, I did want to mention, as you said, there's a lot of things to this and it's very true.

01:28:07.000 And people do have a tendency to, I would say, either simplify it or avoid it because it's too complex.

01:28:14.000 Either or.

01:28:16.000 And it is a complex issue, and over a period of six, seven years, I have evolved to where there's about seven areas that I think are involved in this project.

01:28:24.000 Well, let's run through the gamut, run the gauntlet, with you on the other side, Clifford Carnicom.

01:28:30.000 Website's Carnicom.com.

01:28:31.000 We have a link to it up on InfoWars.com.

01:28:34.000 Just vital information that this man has done.

01:28:37.000 So many other great researchers, but he was the trailblazer.

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01:32:05.000 Bottom line, we know that condensation trails, growing up my entire life, my father's life, I've talked to grandparents when jet travel first began, trails always disappear within a minute.

01:32:19.000 My entire life, and then suddenly the late 90's, they began to just hang there, expand, grow, So, is the government blocking out the evil radiation from the sun?

01:32:30.000 Or are they engaging in mass inoculations? 0.96

01:32:33.000 All these things have been said.

01:32:34.000 Are they poisoning us?

01:32:36.000 Well, we know in the past they have killed American citizens on purpose with admitted biological testing. 0.74

01:32:42.000 And then we have all the admissions of low-altitude spraying.

01:32:46.000 Clifford Carnicom, walk through the seven different areas of your research and what you know, what you've tested.

01:32:53.000 Break it down for us, sir.

01:32:54.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:32:56.000 This list was five up to about a year ago, and there's been two added that I haven't really written up, but I've added them to the list.

01:33:02.000 Some of these can be shown to exist, at least with the best evidence we can.

01:33:07.000 Some of them exist strictly through analysis.

01:33:09.000 Basically, in my case, I have to look at the data and ask, what would you do if this set of data exists?

01:33:16.000 What does that data portend, basically?

01:33:20.000 And so, I wouldn't call it conjecture by any means, but it's definitely a process of analysis.

01:33:24.000 The seven areas would be as follows.

01:33:26.000 The first would be, and I would say that all of these, I would call them areas of operation that are consistent with all of the data that has been collected over seven years.

01:33:36.000 They do not exist individually, they exist simultaneously.

01:33:41.000 They are.

01:33:42.000 First one would be environmental modification and control, actually modifying our world in terms of its environment and weather.

01:33:49.000 This would be the simplest and the easiest probably to understand and demonstrate.

01:33:52.000 The second would be the conduct of biological operations, using particulates as a transport medium for biological materials.

01:34:05.000 The third would be the application and use of electromagnetic operations, the transmission and propagation and manipulation of energy, electromagnetic energy, within a modified atmospheric environment.

01:34:22.000 Let's see, the easiest analogy there would be the ionosphere.

01:34:26.000 Think of the conditions of the ionosphere at altitude, which... Some type of conductivity for HAARP or something.

01:34:33.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:34:35.000 That medium, think of that medium of the ionosphere being brought to a lower level around the Earth, basically.

01:34:42.000 We can talk about each of these in more detail.

01:34:44.000 The fourth would be military operations.

01:34:48.000 Defense, military, offensive, defense, military operations.

01:34:51.000 HAARP is certainly a main player.

01:34:53.000 If you look at the At the thesis and patent of the HAARP facility, it fits like a glove with the actual data that exists for us now.

01:35:04.000 The fifth is a little bit more esoteric, but still quite feasible to me.

01:35:07.000 This would be one based on analysis.

01:35:09.000 And that is a geophysical modification.

01:35:14.000 Actually, the consideration of whether the planet itself, I'm not talking about just the atmosphere, but the geophysics of the Earth, You would be talking about rotation, rotation of the earth, geophysical processes, tectonic, these type of things.

01:35:30.000 And that may sound a little bit stretched for some folks, but the data actually suggests that such things could indeed be feasible to do.

01:35:39.000 The last two are additions over the last year, which have not been written up.

01:35:44.000 Number six would be surveillance, a surveillance operation.

01:35:50.000 The idea there being, you know, most of us are familiar with radar, and radar is when you send a radio wave out and it bounces off of something, comes back, and tells you something's there.

01:36:01.000 Well, what's interesting is radar works because the objects that you're detecting are of a certain size.

01:36:07.000 It has to do with the wavelength of what you're sending out.

01:36:09.000 It has to match what it is you're looking for.

01:36:11.000 So, radio works with radar for airplanes and big objects, but there is an alternative method of detection that involves light waves.

01:36:22.000 And the wavelength of light waves is extremely small, very small.

01:36:27.000 In fact, it's at the same size as the particles that we're speaking of that compose these operations that are being introduced.

01:36:36.000 So it's quite feasible that you actually could develop a surveillance system that would, instead of being able to track large objects, such as planes and boats and this type of thing, I mean, in the public admissions about HAARP, they say that it was designed to see tiny objects over the horizon.

01:37:01.000 Exactly true.

01:37:03.000 The HAARP patent, I've spent some time with that patent.

01:37:07.000 And I didn't really know a lot about it when I started, but I've sort of dug into that on a technical side, and I'll tell you, the overlap is just tremendous.

01:37:16.000 Now that's all the science on the end of it.

01:37:19.000 Studying this, looking at it though, you know, just speaking on your opinion, what do you think they're doing?

01:37:27.000 Number one, what is this doing to the atmosphere?

01:37:29.000 What changes have we seen that can then point us towards what their goals may be?

01:37:38.000 The actual materials that are being identified over and over and over are what you would call ionizing salts.

01:37:46.000 It's a very specific category of physics, and yet extremely important.

01:37:51.000 The best explanation for what can physically transform the atmosphere in the way that they have is through the introduction of ionizable metallic salts.

01:38:01.000 Now, what does that mean?

01:38:03.000 And also of an extremely small size, down at the submicron level.

01:38:08.000 Isn't that similar to the nuclei they use to weather control?

01:38:12.000 You mean for cloud seeding?

01:38:14.000 Well, I would suspect, you know, if we looked into the cloud seeding, and I could be mistaken, but I suspect the particles that we're dealing with would be a magnitude.

01:38:14.000 Yes, yes.

01:38:23.000 Those are crystals we're talking about, you know, in a conventional sense.

01:38:26.000 The size of these is so incredibly small.

01:38:28.000 A sub-micron of human hair is 60 to 100 microns.

01:38:32.000 Bacteria are on the order of 10 microns.

01:38:34.000 What I'm speaking of is on the order of a submicron most likely.

01:38:38.000 So the size of what you're talking about is truly a unique, let's say represents a truly unique opportunity for a physical change in terms of how clouds form and this type of thing.

01:38:49.000 Okay, please continue.

01:38:50.000 But this business of ionization appears to be extremely important.

01:38:54.000 The materials that are being found, specific ones would be calcium, magnesium, and barium.

01:39:00.000 My tests have repeatedly shown these.

01:39:02.000 Barium is of tremendous concern here because it is a highly toxic element in soluble form.

01:39:09.000 It's quite on par with arsenic in terms of its toxicity in soluble form.

01:39:16.000 And what I'm speaking of would be in soluble form because you're talking about clouds and moisture.

01:39:20.000 These particular elements, calcium, barium, and magnesium, with special emphasis upon calcium and barium.

01:39:30.000 These materials have a really unique property in that if you subject them to the energy that is available in sunlight, both visible light and ultraviolet light, particularly the ultraviolet light portion of the spectrum, basically the energy within sunlight is sufficient to cause these materials to become electrically charged.

01:39:50.000 That's what ionized means.

01:39:52.000 An ion is an electrically charged material.

01:39:55.000 If you can ionize a material and throw electrons into a gas, namely the air.

01:40:02.000 Now we're talking about a very open door in terms of the physics of what you have created.

01:40:09.000 There is a word called plasma, and many of us are familiar with a neon light tube, this type of thing.

01:40:14.000 A neon light tube is filled with gas, and yet what happens?

01:40:19.000 You send energy from point A to point B, you create light.

01:40:24.000 That same idea is what I'm talking about here.

01:40:26.000 It is quite conceivable and appears to be the end goal, certainly what Harp explicitly describes, is that if you can increase the electron density in the atmosphere, you can create what is called a plasma.

01:40:40.000 And a plasma is an electrically conductive gas.

01:40:45.000 If you create an electrically conductive gas, in my mind, it's literally an open door towards the transmission and control And manipulation of energy in that environment.

01:41:00.000 We're talking about electromagnetic energy, ELF energy.

01:41:04.000 The wavelength that our bodies work upon is 0 to 100 Hertz, ELF energy.

01:41:10.000 Over and over and over I have detected the presence of... It appears clearly artificial.

01:41:15.000 There's no explanation I can come for it in a natural sense at all.

01:41:19.000 This is stepped intervals of 4 Hertz.

01:41:22.000 Artificial energy at the ELF level.

01:41:26.000 These are the waves that our bodies work at, our brains work at, our minds work at.

01:41:33.000 So everything to me says that a grand design behind this project is to, and has been, to create an altered atmosphere that is now usable for the transmission, let's say enhanced transmission and propagation of electromagnetic energy, a component of which includes ELF energy.

01:42:03.000 ELF energy can be used to store, if you pump it like a Tesla would deal with this resonance factor, if you pulse ELF energy, you can store tremendous amounts of energy to at the level of a geophysical weapon.

01:42:19.000 There's something called a heave weapon.

01:42:20.000 If you read that Hart Report, there's something called a heave weapon.

01:42:22.000 A heave weapon is where you actually lift up the magnetic field of the Earth, and it is equivalent in energy as well as apparently effect to the types of things you would see with an atomic bomb with the advantage that you don't actually detonate anything.

01:42:38.000 I mean, it's really pretty astounding.

01:42:40.000 So it's an invisible weapon where you can basically kill all the life of an entire region if you wish?

01:42:45.000 Yes.

01:42:45.000 You know, this is not something I'm making up.

01:42:47.000 This is something I study.

01:42:48.000 That's what my work is.

01:42:49.000 I understand.

01:42:50.000 I've seen those federal documents.

01:42:51.000 And going back to tectonic weapons that you mentioned earlier, we have Secretary of Defense Cohen.

01:42:58.000 Back in 97, giving a speech about tectonic earthquake type of volcanic type weapons.

01:43:06.000 And then expanding on that to just show the craziness of people running things.

01:43:10.000 They've used tens of thousands of tons of depleted uranium.

01:43:16.000 All over the world, knowing that the radiation detectors are picking up higher levels and that the particulates are very bad for all of us.

01:43:23.000 We know they tested hundreds.

01:43:24.000 Our own government did a high-altitude test of nuclear weapons back in the 60s.

01:43:29.000 So we know that they do things that are very bad for the environment on a routine basis.

01:43:33.000 Publicly, I've read that these different salts, these different chemicals that are in the air are also very bad for human tissues.

01:43:42.000 In numerous ways.

01:43:43.000 I mean, you can just take it on a physical level first, just the mechanical side.

01:43:47.000 There's a direct link between increased mortality and increased particulate count.

01:43:51.000 You can get this from the American Lung Association, whatever.

01:43:55.000 This is all over the place.

01:43:56.000 John Hopkins.

01:43:57.000 If you breathe more particles, more of you will die.

01:44:02.000 That's just the mechanics of it.

01:44:04.000 Then you have to raise the question of, well, what exactly are these particles?

01:44:07.000 What are they composed of?

01:44:08.000 And what might they carry?

01:44:10.000 Well, certainly if the compounds are barium, soluble barium compounds, those guys are toxic, highly toxic.

01:44:20.000 And then if you extend this on to the piggyback or transport mechanism, which is also exemplified in HAARP, Then you open up another hole in your body.

01:44:33.000 What's the main way of distribution?

01:44:35.000 I mean, a lot of times it's these unmarked white airplanes that have been photographed at weird U.S.

01:44:40.000 bases out in Arizona and Indiana and all over the country.

01:44:43.000 We know that's going on, but sometimes it's the passenger jets.

01:44:46.000 Is this being mixed with fuel?

01:44:49.000 What's the main delivery mode for this?

01:44:51.000 Yeah, these are good questions.

01:44:53.000 You know, I once did a talk up here in Taos, New Mexico, and I started right at the beginning.

01:44:56.000 I said, folks, sorry.

01:44:58.000 But the main questions you want, the five W's, who, what, when, where, why, whatever, you're not going to get a simple direct answer.

01:45:05.000 We don't have it, unfortunately.

01:45:07.000 You're dealing with observations that have to be taken by citizens on the ground, because there is no forthcoming information on this whatsoever.

01:45:15.000 Now, that being said, I will say this.

01:45:19.000 There are many individuals that have stated that these planes are a certain type of plane, say a military tank or this type of thing.

01:45:26.000 There are people that have said commercial aircraft, it's a joke to think that they are even remotely involved in this.

01:45:34.000 What I do is I just collect the data and if you look at my early work, the early work for the first year or two was nothing more than collecting photographs, almost entirely.

01:45:43.000 I focused on getting images.

01:45:46.000 And I would post these images, the best that I could get with telescopic images, telephoto images, and post them, and ask the question, what type of plane is this?

01:45:56.000 What are we dealing with?

01:45:57.000 And all I will say, if you look at the photographs that I have taken, some of them which are truly remarkable, in that they clearly show emissions from the entire wingspan.

01:46:08.000 I have five of these, very good examples.

01:46:10.000 They show emissions across the entire wingspan, a continuous stream.

01:46:15.000 It doesn't come from the engines in that case.

01:46:17.000 I'm not saying in all cases at all.

01:46:19.000 But I do believe there have been different methods that have been used and experimented upon or tried.

01:46:24.000 But in that case, it doesn't even come from the engines.

01:46:27.000 If you look at those aircraft and you identify them, all I can say is they are commercial type aircraft in those that I have programmed.

01:46:36.000 I'm not saying they're commercial aircraft because I can't see.

01:46:40.000 I can't see the people.

01:46:41.000 I can't see the markings with my equipment.

01:46:43.000 They are commercial type equipment.

01:46:47.000 And I will clearly say that the evidence actually strongly, more than strongly, implicates the involvement and collusion and incorporation of the commercial airline industry within this operation.

01:47:02.000 Let me add something here.

01:47:05.000 I have seen one jet flying at the same altitude, just a few miles away, here in Austin, not leaving trails that stay there for an hour or two, or leaving no trail at all, and right next to it, a jet leaving a trail that's there three hours later.

01:47:21.000 Now, what does that say?

01:47:23.000 Yeah, you know, the classic arguments against these, and I'm familiar with most of them, but, you know, people will say, oh, you know, the planes are operating two different altitudes, and the atmospheric conditions are different.

01:47:34.000 Sorry folks, it just doesn't hold.

01:47:35.000 Anybody that digs into this seriously will see that, you know, the conditions that you're describing there are not a variance enough to describe the tremendous difference in what Alex is speaking of right now.

01:47:47.000 Well, I know what happened.

01:47:48.000 I mean, in the late 90s, So contrails went from lasting 30 seconds on average, maybe a minute and a half, to being there for hours.

01:47:55.000 Now, I want to know, I mean, could this be some type of resonant energy in the atmosphere that just makes normal condensation trails behave differently?

01:48:06.000 No, what happens, to the best of my knowledge, Alex, is this, in terms of the physics of what's going on.

01:48:13.000 When you ask the question, how could you have a, I can't call them clouds because they're not really clouds anymore, but let's use that term for right now.

01:48:22.000 Let's say you have a bank, a bank or layer at 35 to 40,000 feet.

01:48:26.000 The region that was traditionally home to thin, high, cirrus clouds, wispy clouds, and they would subsequently develop into fuller cloud forms that would descend to lower altitudes.

01:48:39.000 But the high altitudes, 35,000 feet, were reserved primarily for thin, wispy clouds and not a whole lot more.

01:48:45.000 You have to ask the question, how at 35,000 to 40,000 feet could you have a continuous thick layer start to develop?

01:48:53.000 And it is with the introduction of the salt, a certain type of salt, not just any salt.

01:48:57.000 But if you introduced a salt that can absorb moisture when the humidity is roughly 30-35%, which there are certain salts that do that, the type that I'm speaking of, now you change things because now you're able to collect and absorb moisture on extremely small particles.

01:49:17.000 And let's talk about clouds for a second because let's talk about a difference between two things.

01:49:22.000 Contrails.

01:49:23.000 If you look at what a contrail is.

01:49:25.000 Contrails form.

01:49:26.000 It's, you know, what happens when you breathe on a cold winter day, right?

01:49:30.000 Stay there.

01:49:31.000 We'll have to talk about it when we get back.

01:49:32.000 We're up against a break.

01:49:33.000 Clifford Carnicom's our guest.

01:49:36.000 This is such an important subject because things have changed in our atmosphere.

01:49:40.000 There have been atmospheric changes to the planet.

01:49:44.000 The laws that we knew before, it seems, have been suspended.

01:49:48.000 And I've seen these trails down low.

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01:55:03.000 Clifford, we don't have a lot of time left.

01:55:06.000 It's going by so fast and I appreciate you joining us.

01:55:09.000 Not only is there the harp effects of weapons or manipulation or conductivity of so many different things, anti-personnel on multiple levels, but what about It seems to be associated with weather modification.

01:55:24.000 When big storms are coming in for sure, you see these jets coming in even lower.

01:55:29.000 I mean, I've seen trails getting laid down at 10, 15, 5,000 feet, which I never saw before in the past, in front of the storms, knocking them out, stopping them.

01:55:38.000 A lot of researchers have pointed that out.

01:55:39.000 So can you comment on some of the other aspects of this?

01:55:43.000 I'd say that's absolutely true, what you're saying there.

01:55:45.000 Did you want me to elaborate on that part or go on to the other area?

01:55:48.000 Any area you think is important, I'm willing to elaborate.

01:55:51.000 Well, I think the first would be to corroborate and confirm what it is you're saying there.

01:55:54.000 There clearly is a very definite association with weather fronts in terms of these operations.

01:56:02.000 Moisture is absolutely being altered, moisture patterns.

01:56:07.000 You know, the claim that these are benevolent operations has just never worked from the data side.

01:56:13.000 If I could see that in the data, I would raise that scenario, but it doesn't fit.

01:56:17.000 Everything here shows a covert operation, which has a malevolent effect on both the planet as well as those who live upon it.

01:56:28.000 Moisture is being altered.

01:56:31.000 Storm systems are being affected and manipulated.

01:56:35.000 And, you know, it's a real curious thing, but if you actually look into the explanations, they don't make any sense at all in terms of what's offered here.

01:56:41.000 They'll say that these things are being conducted during times of high humidity.

01:56:46.000 I've looked at the humidity here, and I've looked at it up high, with all the balloons.

01:56:50.000 I've looked at it all the way up to 50,000, even 100,000, whatever those balloons go, up to 65,000 feet.

01:56:56.000 We do not have high humidity up there, and the lies that are being put forth about supposedly this is happening in a high humidity environment, it doesn't hold water at all.

01:57:07.000 And as a matter of fact, talking about association with storms, I did quite a bit of work to actually try and determine what is the pattern?

01:57:15.000 When are these planes coming in?

01:57:17.000 And something happened that I didn't even expect, actually.

01:57:19.000 Stay right there, we've got a break.

01:57:20.000 Tell us about that.

01:57:22.000 When we get back, because this is important, and I want to talk about Ben Livingston's research, the father of modern weather weapons.

01:57:28.000 Oh yeah, he's... he's got some comments.

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01:58:25.000 Clifford Carnicom, Ben Livingston, flew into hurricanes.

01:58:33.000 He flew into the even bigger storms they have in the Pacific, the typhoons.

01:58:40.000 He, uh, Stanford Research Facility certified his work for the Navy.

01:58:44.000 He was the head of their big weapons research facility that they were able to kill and knock down hurricanes in the late 60s.

01:58:51.000 But then our government says, oh, they know nothing about it and there's nothing they can do about hurricanes.

01:58:55.000 So we know they're being secretive.

01:58:57.000 If they can knock down hurricanes, We also know that they can empower and increase the power of hurricanes.

01:59:03.000 Livingston over Vietnam, with just a few planes, would take tiny clouds and cause ten feet of rain to fall, flooding people on the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

01:59:12.000 So we know they can manipulate the weather, even with seeding technologies.

01:59:16.000 You add into this other technologies, it's powerful.

01:59:20.000 What do they appear to be doing with these chemical sprays with the weather?

01:59:26.000 What does their goal appear to be?

01:59:28.000 Well, I think from a military perspective, certainly if one has the ability to control or manipulate the weather, that's a huge military advantage.

01:59:43.000 And you said that you were shocked.

01:59:45.000 You said that you were shocked when you did some observations of when the planes came in.

01:59:49.000 Tell us about that.

01:59:49.000 Well, I think this would come to a surprise to many people, but if you actually look at the data, if you find a paper I wrote called Ions and Humidity, The big surprise to me here is that the timing of these operations actually occurs, appears to occur most likely, when the humidity is at, and I have to use the word, a local minimum.

02:00:06.000 What this means is low relative to before and after.

02:00:10.000 It doesn't mean in an absolute sense low.

02:00:12.000 It means relative to what's happening before and to what's to transpire afterwards.

02:00:17.000 If you find these points, what you call a local minimum of humidity, this appears to be the most likely time that these operations are coming in.

02:00:25.000 That actually makes sense if you look at what's going on with what you're talking about.

02:00:29.000 That is the most advantageous time to come in.

02:00:33.000 It's right before the storm, not during the storm, but right before it comes in.

02:00:38.000 And I'm talking, my work will show periods of several hours, so basically a window of two to three hours.

02:00:43.000 And you can see that it is timed to get in there right at this absolute maximum advantage point of getting these particles in before the moisture comes in.

02:00:54.000 And I believe that would be so you would have maximum absorption, basically.

02:00:58.000 In your six, seven years studying this, is it getting more frequent?

02:01:03.000 Are the operations intensifying globally, nationally?

02:01:09.000 I would say the operation is full in effect.

02:01:13.000 This thing is in effect.

02:01:14.000 The change has been made.

02:01:16.000 And whether you want to call it a maintenance or a status quo, it would appear to me that we have a certain concentration level.

02:01:24.000 That needs to be maintained at this point.

02:01:27.000 Certainly, and there also appears to be something seasonal that goes on.

02:01:31.000 The BBC, and I know you saw it, had a big photograph from space of England completely covered with what it called condensation trails, and then in the article it went on to say that NASA says the Earth is 20% darker, and then just put that there, didn't make any connection to condensation trails, just had that in the space photograph.

02:01:50.000 Absolutely, and one of the tests that I did was that straightforward.

02:01:53.000 I made what's called a photometer, a calibrated photometer, and it's a simple, straightforward test, but you had a perfectly blue, clear sky.

02:02:01.000 They came in when you have a certain light level.

02:02:04.000 The planes came in, and in an hour or two hours, it had completely transformed the sky.

02:02:10.000 I conducted these tests, and there was a 20 cent per reduction.

02:02:14.000 I mean, it's a straight physical thing.

02:02:17.000 You are affecting the energy and light that's affecting the Earth.

02:02:19.000 But you did see the NASA report that the Earth is now 20% darker than it was 30 years ago.

02:02:23.000 That's right, I have.

02:02:24.000 That's right.

02:02:25.000 And look at the photograph that NASA touts there as being what they call clutter.

02:02:30.000 They call it contrail clutter.

02:02:32.000 It's absolutely hilarious to think that these things would be forced to... Yeah, they show the U.S., and it's a spider web, and they didn't do that until six, seven years ago.

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02:05:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:06:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:07.000 I will repeat, the government has declassified the fact that they over 3,000 times from the 40s to the 70s spread chemical, biological and radiological weapons and other mixes on the American people.

02:06:21.000 They do it all the time now.

02:06:23.000 AIDS virus, Hepatitis C, knowingly on purpose in the drugs.

02:06:27.000 Hundreds and hundreds of other examples I don't have time to get into.

02:06:29.000 Black men and syphilis, sterilizing 400,000 American women for no reason. 0.96

02:06:34.000 On and on and on. 0.98

02:06:35.000 So you've got these Malthusian, Dr. Pionkian.

02:06:38.000 Remember the UT scientist who gets the 95% standing ovation saying he wants to kill everybody?

02:06:44.000 Dr. Peter Singer, Prince Philip, Ted Turner, Prince Charles, the Club of Rome.

02:06:48.000 These are Henry Kissinger documents.

02:06:50.000 CIA, all public.

02:06:53.000 I've got to make a film about this, population reduction.

02:06:55.000 In fact, that's on the burner to do.

02:06:57.000 I just am so crazy busy all the time.

02:06:59.000 We're going to try to do it though in my Bilderberg film that's coming out, whenever I get that done.

02:07:05.000 But this is the reality.

02:07:08.000 And so they are drying out the planet.

02:07:10.000 They are darkening the planet.

02:07:12.000 They are manipulating a whole bunch of stuff.

02:07:15.000 A whole bunch of key areas of our biosphere.

02:07:19.000 And then you've got all the low altitude spraying.

02:07:21.000 It's a whole other separate area.

02:07:22.000 Now Clifford Carnicom is with us for another 20 minutes.

02:07:26.000 30 seconds to be precise.

02:07:27.000 So let's go to your calls.

02:07:29.000 Please have your questions and comments to be brief so the next person gets time.

02:07:33.000 Dave in California.

02:07:35.000 Thanks for holding your on the air with Clifford Carnicom.

02:07:37.000 Thanks Alex.

02:07:38.000 Hi Mr. Carnicom and thank you for everything you do.

02:07:40.000 I have two data points for you.

02:07:43.000 I live in the Pacific Northwest and especially this last year I've been watching very closely.

02:07:47.000 What we're seeing here is off the coast at low level We're seeing multiple laydowns just in front of the marine layer when it comes on shore in the afternoon and evening.

02:08:00.000 Always in front of wet weather storms and just this last year was happening in front of every storm that we had and we had 150% of rainfall this year.

02:08:10.000 That's number one.

02:08:11.000 And number two, and this is really disturbing to me, I've noticed that we don't see any insects around here anymore at all.

02:08:19.000 Uh, there was white light on all night, last night, outside, and I went and looked this morning, there were two little moths and a couple bugs circling the light.

02:08:28.000 This is an area that's a wilderness.

02:08:30.000 There's almost nobody living here.

02:08:32.000 This place should be swarming with bugs. 0.89

02:08:35.000 There are reports that in industrialized nations, insect levels are way down.

02:08:40.000 Yeah, it's good.

02:08:41.000 Let me get a comment from Clifford Carnicom.

02:08:44.000 I think good observations and exactly on mark, very much the case.

02:08:49.000 These operations are destroying these storms.

02:08:52.000 They're coming ahead of them and they're destroying the storms.

02:08:54.000 Are they trying to cause them to dump all their moisture before they get inland to the areas like Idaho and other areas?

02:09:00.000 I personally think that what you're actually doing is absorbing the energy from the storms And redirecting it.

02:09:07.000 In other words, trying to capitalize on that energy within a storm and to redirect it for other purposes.

02:09:13.000 What's the goal?

02:09:14.000 Why would they want to do this?

02:09:16.000 Energy is powerful.

02:09:16.000 Energy makes things happen.

02:09:18.000 If you can control energy, you can do things.

02:09:21.000 This is how weapons are created.

02:09:24.000 Directed energy weapons, ion weapons, plasma weapons.

02:09:28.000 Dave, I appreciate your call.

02:09:29.000 We're going to have to move on.

02:09:29.000 Great points.

02:09:31.000 Global warming.

02:09:32.000 We know that we're not really having global warming.

02:09:33.000 We're having global, very dangerous, fast-moving change.

02:09:40.000 Is what's happening.

02:09:41.000 Could the globalists be trying to create all sorts of climate shifts and huge disasters as a way to scare us into accepting this new global tax they're proposing through the global warming hysteria they're pushing?

02:09:55.000 Well, what I can say is they are happening.

02:09:57.000 It's hard for me to determine in 10, but what I can say is what's happening.

02:10:02.000 And it is happening.

02:10:02.000 You know, for a long time, you still find people, they're out there saying, this stuff is protecting the Earth, and this is cooling the Earth, and this is counteracting global warming.

02:10:12.000 My work shows exactly the opposite.

02:10:14.000 If you look at the effects of these materials, the physics of these materials, it is expected, it is expected that they heat up the Earth.

02:10:23.000 Well, this is what I expect.

02:10:25.000 They dry it out and they heat it up.

02:10:27.000 They don't cool anything down.

02:10:28.000 They dry it up and they heat it up.

02:10:30.000 But if I had the power to manipulate the weather, I would have a federal bureau of it.

02:10:35.000 I would be announcing it.

02:10:37.000 I would be admitting it.

02:10:37.000 They have these technologies.

02:10:39.000 That's declassified.

02:10:40.000 But they cover them up and deny them.

02:10:43.000 That shows they don't want people looking at this.

02:10:45.000 Our government right now could have killed Hurricane Katrina and Rita.

02:10:48.000 Our government didn't.

02:10:49.000 The question is, why?

02:10:52.000 Yeah, you know, it's a combination of both of these things.

02:10:54.000 Both as well as covering it out, as well as manipulating how it is released to the public.

02:10:59.000 You know, we're now at the point where you have a bill, and apparently this thing is just, you know, in position.

02:11:04.000 Yeah, the Weather Control Board, yeah.

02:11:06.000 Yeah, you have a bill on board to basically legalize that which is already being done upon us, which is the way this situation commonly works.

02:11:14.000 My senator, Kay Bailey, is pushing it.

02:11:16.000 Yeah, so that's there.

02:11:17.000 So, I mean, that's there.

02:11:18.000 But then you tell the general public still they can control the weather.

02:11:21.000 They're going, oh, little green man, too.

02:11:23.000 Let's go ahead and talk to George in Indiana.

02:11:26.000 George, you're on the air.

02:11:27.000 Yeah, I live in central Indiana, and they seem to do all their spraying at night because when I get up to about daybreak, I see them all in the air.

02:11:36.000 I mean, like Grand Central Station in the skies, you see streams everywhere.

02:11:41.000 And it wasn't there seven, eight years ago, was it, George?

02:11:44.000 Oh no, I'm 57, and I do know it's not, it's just my imagination, but it seems like the sun is a whole lot brighter than it was when I was a kid.

02:11:54.000 Well, that could be a lensing effect because of the atmospheric differential.

02:11:57.000 That's why the sun looks bigger on the horizon because you're looking through the atmosphere at its thickest point over hundreds of miles, not just through the 20 miles straight up.

02:12:06.000 But what you just said is true.

02:12:07.000 NASA just announced that they thought the last 11 and a half year cycle was the biggest ever.

02:12:12.000 Now they're reporting the sun is on line to be 50% brighter in the next cycle.

02:12:17.000 Go ahead, Clifford Carnegie.

02:12:18.000 Well, the UV, the ultraviolet indices are up.

02:12:21.000 It's so interesting.

02:12:23.000 You can actually look at a lot of the popular claims that are out there and you can actually gauge that indeed it may be an intentional disinformation mode to do so because they'll claim that this material is somehow there.

02:12:35.000 It's always somehow.

02:12:37.000 The mechanics and physics are never really explained.

02:12:40.000 It's just somehow this has to be helping.

02:12:42.000 Clifford, before I forget, did you see the big write-up on the federally written textbook where they tell the kids that the government's putting a sunscreen up there to keep us safe?

02:12:50.000 I absolutely did.

02:12:51.000 I absolutely did.

02:12:52.000 Give us your take on that.

02:12:55.000 Manipulation, indoctrination, influence in the population to accept a state of affairs as being normal.

02:13:05.000 That's a textbook being used nationwide, written by the government, that is used by 8th graders.

02:13:10.000 Yes, yes.

02:13:12.000 You know, I was at the bookstore just a couple weeks ago, and I go through meteorology books occasionally and such.

02:13:18.000 You have a meteorology book out there now which has a whole new generation.

02:13:22.000 I'm not going to call them clouds.

02:13:24.000 I use three words.

02:13:24.000 I use contrails, clouds, and aerosols.

02:13:27.000 I actually don't use the word chemtrails.

02:13:29.000 In this meteorology book, you will find out an entire new generation of constructed forms.

02:13:36.000 And I won't even call them clouds because they don't qualify.

02:13:39.000 They don't qualify.

02:13:40.000 That did not exist.

02:13:41.000 Go pick up the aviation charts pre-90 and look at the cloud forms that are there in the textbooks.

02:13:47.000 Aviation books, meteorology books.

02:13:50.000 Go look at what's being described now to the kids in popular literature in terms of cloud types and infinite variations of things that have no physical basis and loss.

02:14:01.000 Unless you introduce a water-loving salt material that completely changes the dynamics... Changing our atmosphere.

02:14:08.000 They're terraforming Earth to make it a desert planet, sir?

02:14:12.000 Well, it is what's happening.

02:14:15.000 It is what's happening.

02:14:18.000 So, we're being reverse terraformed.

02:14:21.000 Are you saying that's a good term?

02:14:23.000 All I can say is this material is locking up the moisture that would be going into our water table.

02:14:30.000 It is locking that moisture up, and there is energy that is being held within those.

02:14:35.000 So is this the opposite of, say, taking Mars and making it green?

02:14:38.000 I'm saying, is this a type of terraforming?

02:14:40.000 Well, it fits, Alex, I'll say that.

02:14:43.000 It fits.

02:14:45.000 If you're changing the climate of the Earth on a global level, and the water levels are being altered, then what is that, other than, you know, I'm not going to say again, that's an intent, I can only go into it, but what's the result?

02:14:58.000 The result is, yes, Affirmative.

02:15:01.000 Terraforming means changing the Earth, right?

02:15:03.000 All right, let's take another call.

02:15:04.000 Thank you, George.

02:15:05.000 Tom in Texas, you're on the air.

02:15:06.000 Go ahead, Tom.

02:15:08.000 Yes, this is Tom in Texas, and I'd like to say I've been watching these since 1999.

02:15:11.000 I've made some personal observations over long periods of time.

02:15:15.000 I can tell you some of the places these planes fly in and out of.

02:15:19.000 As a matter of fact, I can tell you the fuel companies who contract the fuel of them.

02:15:23.000 In Wichita, Kansas, I watched 40 Modified KC-135s that have the, used to be a four-engine aircraft modified, but the two engines on the wing, a more powerful engine, come in and refueled by Gromdyke aircraft.

02:15:37.000 I've seen them at the Dinker Air Force Base.

02:15:41.000 Come in there as many as a dozen of them in three groups.

02:15:44.000 They seem to run in groups of 40.

02:15:46.000 Also in Lincoln, Nebraska.

02:15:48.000 I've collected also the spider web residual after these things.

02:15:52.000 Two years ago.

02:15:53.000 Are you a truck driver?

02:15:55.000 No, I'm not a truck driver.

02:15:56.000 This is Tom.

02:15:57.000 I'm just an observer, you might say.

02:15:59.000 I'm just wondering how you've been to all these places, you know.

02:16:02.000 Oh, well, I was at a funeral in Kansas when I observed these things, first of all.

02:16:06.000 Like I said, I've been watching them, so I did a little traveling to follow the ones that were going north and south.

02:16:12.000 They ended up in Lincoln, Nebraska, and they ended up in Tinker Air Force Base, the ones that were flying over Kansas.

02:16:18.000 Also, I've collected the residual aftermath of spider web stuff they speak of.

02:16:23.000 Two years ago here in Rockport, it snowed and the day after, We had more of these spiderwebs dangling.

02:16:30.000 I've collected some.

02:16:31.000 I've put them in vials.

02:16:32.000 Well, here's an example.

02:16:33.000 I was out at the Austin-Birchstrom Airport about five years ago, and I wasn't poo-pooing chemtrails, but I was poo-pooing the spiderwebs.

02:16:40.000 And I'm there, and under the streetlights, these giant, 20-foot wide, I was with Mike Hanson, spiderwebs are hitting us in the face, and it was coming off from the planes.

02:16:50.000 Clipper Carnicom, what are these spiderwebs?

02:16:52.000 Man, that's another whole story we could do another whole show on, but let's just say they're not spiderwebs.

02:16:58.000 They appear to be... Well, there's big questions here, I'll tell you.

02:17:02.000 I can say that they are associated with biological operations and the research I've done there.

02:17:07.000 They are definitely not spiderwebs.

02:17:08.000 Well, I know that coming out three years ago, DARPA told the Baltimore Sun that they may put up towers with electromagnetic fields to make us behave better.

02:17:21.000 Did you see that?

02:17:22.000 No, I didn't see that one, Alex.

02:17:23.000 Baltimore Sun, we're going to mind control you!

02:17:27.000 I'm sorry.

02:17:28.000 Okay, thank you, caller.

02:17:29.000 We'll come back in the final segment with Lipper Carnipcom and talk to Eleanor and others that are patiently holding.

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02:21:43.000 www.carnicom.com Right now, before we go to Eleanor and of course Jack Blood, we're going to go to him as well here in just a moment.

02:22:05.000 I heard he's going to be calling in.

02:22:07.000 Let's talk to Danny in Florida who says he's an airline pilot.

02:22:10.000 Danny, welcome to the Airwaves.

02:22:11.000 You're on the air right now with Clifford Carnicom.

02:22:14.000 Alex.

02:22:15.000 I have two questions.

02:22:15.000 Hi.

02:22:17.000 The first one is, is it possible for normal airplane contrails to stay small and not dissipate because I've observed that phenomenon for over 30 years.

02:22:29.000 And the second question is, if they're using commercial airplanes, what would be the chemical they're adding to the jet fuel?

02:22:40.000 Is it possible for a contrail to stay?

02:22:42.000 Yes, as a matter of fact, if you look at a paper I did related to humidity, If the humidity is high enough, indeed, it's possible to linger essentially indefinitely.

02:22:54.000 Unfortunately, those conditions don't actually exist or occur too often.

02:22:57.000 Well, I just want to say, I had never seen it until the late 90s, and I know that if it's really, you know, a lot of humidity, it's cold, you can just get ice crystal trails up there as you know well, but you're a pilot.

02:23:08.000 And again, I'm not saying everything is a trail, every plane's doing it.

02:23:11.000 I'm saying there is some type of weird program going on from all the evidence we have.

02:23:16.000 I mean, you're a pilot, Danny.

02:23:17.000 Do you ever walk outside and see days where it's nothing but trails and they're below 10,000 feet?

02:23:22.000 Because, believe me, brother, I've taken photos of it.

02:23:25.000 I agree.

02:23:26.000 I've seen where they're spraying and the trails spread and cover the whole sky.

02:23:33.000 But I've also seen days, you know, not very frequent, where you'll have a small trail created and it'll just not dissipate.

02:23:43.000 But it remains small.

02:23:45.000 Well, I mean, what do other airline pilots think about it?

02:23:47.000 What do you think about it?

02:23:50.000 I agree with you a hundred percent.

02:23:52.000 There's a biological component to it, and there's a weather modification component to it.

02:24:00.000 In terms of the second question, in terms of the chemical, you notice I never use the word chemtrail because there's no real basis for that at this point.

02:24:08.000 What can be accurately assessed is that they are aerosols.

02:24:11.000 Certain elements have been repeatedly identified at ground level.

02:24:15.000 But it's really not quite fair to extrapolate that to the direct source until that's done properly.

02:24:20.000 But nevertheless, in terms of what compounds are there, it appears as though it would be feasible if the materials are small enough.

02:24:29.000 Again, we need the information here, but from my side, it appears as though it would be feasible if materials are small enough, and we are speaking at the submicron level, that a fuel system could be developed.

02:24:41.000 There is certainly strong evidence of delivery systems.

02:24:45.000 Uh, that, uh, have existed.

02:24:47.000 Uh, but in terms of the grand scale operation, we don't have a bird's eye view of the source, but it is feasible to me that at the sub-micron level you could be dealing with a, uh, with a few of those.

02:24:56.000 What about those photos?

02:24:57.000 Sure, what about the photos on the web we've seen that look like they have spray nozzles on them?

02:25:00.000 Are those real photos?

02:25:02.000 Are you speaking of my photos?

02:25:04.000 Well, I've just seen them on the web over the years.

02:25:06.000 Anybody, anybody that claims any photographs, uh, showing nozzles and such, uh, to me at this point, They are totally inadequate until they are documented properly, and to me, I can't say I've seen that yet.

02:25:18.000 I'm not saying they're not, I'm just saying to me there is no sufficient evidence of direct eye-to-eye photography of source material.

02:25:25.000 Alright, Danny, have you ever seen anything really weird where you're flying right next to a plane, you're not leaving the trail, but they are?

02:25:33.000 No, I can't say that I have seen that, but I have seen, as you have Alex, the trails that start out small and spread and then cover the whole sky.

02:25:42.000 So they're definitely doing this.

02:25:44.000 Had you seen that before the late 90s?

02:25:47.000 No.

02:25:48.000 That's all I'm saying folks.

02:25:49.000 Something changed.

02:25:50.000 I don't know what it is.

02:25:51.000 Thank you for the call.

02:25:52.000 Let's go to Jack Blood.

02:25:53.000 Jack Blood hosts the show right after this one every day.

02:25:55.000 Jack, what's on your mind?

02:25:57.000 Hey Alex, thanks for having Clifford on the program with you today.

02:26:00.000 This really shows how brave you are, how brave Clifford is.

02:26:03.000 I wanted to ask a question about provocateurs because Clifford, I've used your information and a lot of my listeners have posted that on message boards.

02:26:11.000 We have been attacked by organized groups on the internet.

02:26:16.000 I don't want to mention any names.

02:26:17.000 We've also found that there is a key person at NASA who has nothing better to do than to scour the internet looking for people talking about this.

02:26:25.000 I've actually had, you know, violence, threats, I've had arson at my home for talking about this chemtrail situation, and specifically using your work.

02:26:34.000 So, I'd like to hear you, if you could, speak about the real movement to just shut us up, no matter what they have to do.

02:26:42.000 Anything that happened to you like that, Jack Liburd?

02:26:46.000 How would we say this?

02:26:47.000 I have never been physically attacked, I would say that.

02:26:53.000 What he speaks of is very true, very accurate.

02:26:56.000 There are organized efforts at both containing this information so it only flows through certain channels in certain ways.

02:27:05.000 There are organized efforts to ridicule and discredit those who are attempting to pursue or promote an investigation on this issue.

02:27:15.000 The efforts to control this are very real.

02:27:20.000 I'll simply say I have not been physically attacked.

02:27:23.000 All right, Jack, anything else?

02:27:24.000 It's proof that we're really on to something here.

02:27:27.000 They're trying to shut us up.

02:27:28.000 Hey, thank you guys for the work.

02:27:29.000 And Clifford, I'd love to have you on my show sometime.

02:27:31.000 All right, we'll be right back.

02:27:32.000 Final segment.

02:27:33.000 Clifford Carnicom.

02:27:34.000 More calls.

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02:31:07.000 It's all over the place.

02:31:08.000 We've got a link to it up on InfoWars.com right now.

02:31:11.000 Great guy.

02:31:13.000 Clifford Carnicom, what about the different weathermen?

02:31:15.000 There have been several meteorologists, agreed meteorologists, Well, the physics of the atmosphere have been changed.

02:31:21.000 or TV stations saying that they can clearly see the jets flying and blocking weather and that they're seeing weather patterns that they've never seen in their careers, in some cases spanning decades, and then back to college, that there are new types of clouds, that new things are happening.

02:31:36.000 What's your take on their comments and what they bring to the plate?

02:31:39.000 Well, the physics of the atmosphere have been changed.

02:31:42.000 They've been authored.

02:31:44.000 So the game is not really the same as we know it.

02:31:48.000 And, you know, the fascinating thing is that a child growing up now, you know, the question of what is normal comes up.

02:31:55.000 It's quite interesting, but a child growing up now would never even know or have the memories that we have as adults.

02:32:01.000 And this is now their frame of reference.

02:32:03.000 And, you know, history is written by the victors, that statement.

02:32:06.000 You can pretty much Create whatever world you want.

02:32:09.000 My last question for you before we take three final calls is, getting outside the science, getting outside just your research, what do you, bottom line, think it's really all about?

02:32:18.000 What do you think the government is doing?

02:32:21.000 If I'm pressed to offer a single word that encapsulates and describes what I see happening here, I have to use the word control.

02:32:28.000 It's the best I can do.

02:32:30.000 Well, for those that don't know, we are really a spaceship.

02:32:33.000 People go, a spaceship?

02:32:34.000 Yes.

02:32:35.000 We are a third planet from the sun, orbiting a standard sun two-thirds of the way out on a spiral arm of the Milky Way galaxy.

02:32:43.000 Life lives in a very thin little layer Really, the first 10,000 feet of the atmosphere, above that you have major oxygen narcosis problems.

02:32:56.000 Life lives in the first 10,000 feet, a very thin veneer around the globe, and weather manipulation is admitted, patented, documented.

02:33:04.000 government totally admits it.

02:33:04.000 The U.S.

02:33:06.000 And then there's all these other programs going on, so people need to stop denying this.

02:33:13.000 Yeah, you have it exactly right, Alex, and I really don't, you know, Al Gore in his film, at least to his credit, he did make a point of it, and that is, I don't think people have any idea how fragile this atmosphere is.

02:33:26.000 It's an eggshell that's around us, and we have changed it.

02:33:31.000 I see it as a threat to the viability of this planet as a whole.

02:33:37.000 Well, the way I heard one biologist put it that we interviewed was, heard my dad put it the same way, "We're basically like fish.

02:33:44.000 I mean, we're swimming in a gas.

02:33:45.000 We live in a gas.

02:33:47.000 The ocean is just a thicker H2O, that molecule, but they basically swim in their gas.

02:33:55.000 Not really a gas, but people get my point.

02:33:57.000 We are swimming in gas.

02:33:59.000 We are living in gas.

02:34:02.000 A 10,000 foot layer.

02:34:03.000 We live in a 10,000 foot deep water.

02:34:06.000 Are you getting my analogy?

02:34:07.000 You will.

02:34:08.000 Exactly right.

02:34:09.000 Are you willing?

02:34:10.000 This is a general question to everyone.

02:34:11.000 Are you willing to have your atmosphere sacrificed?

02:34:15.000 Uh, for the intentions that are undeclared and unknown.

02:34:17.000 Are you willing to sacrifice both your atmosphere and potentially the world?

02:34:21.000 I remember watching a Discovery Channel program.

02:34:24.000 I think it was called Trinity, out there at the Trinity grounds where they tested the nukes.

02:34:28.000 And they had a line in there where they were shooting in one night something like 20 huge hydrogen bombs into the upper atmosphere and detonating them.

02:34:37.000 And they said that they thought it might ignite the world's atmosphere, but they were still going to do it.

02:34:42.000 I mean, what is the mindset of these people?

02:34:45.000 That's right.

02:34:48.000 There may come a time, the way we're headed, where you won't have the opportunity to even address the question or answer the problem if you're not willing to act now.

02:34:59.000 I'm not willing to make that sacrifice.

02:35:02.000 I'm sure you've heard of the UT professor that says we all need to die, including his family?

02:35:07.000 Dr. Bianca, do you think this fits into the whole population control agenda?

02:35:16.000 Again, I may not be able to ascribe intent, but what I can say is that it is expected that there will be increased mortality, as well as the potential of a huge host of unknown pathogens that we are subject to.

02:35:30.000 And this is not based on speculation.

02:35:32.000 And there's a whole arena of biological research that we haven't begun to touch on, which is very real.

02:35:39.000 I forget.

02:35:40.000 I've seen so much.

02:35:40.000 There are links to the NASA website off the sites.

02:35:43.000 It may have been Carnicom.com.

02:35:45.000 We've got to hurry here, folks.

02:35:46.000 I'm going over.

02:35:47.000 But where it will show NASA photos 20 years ago, 10 years ago, there's no spider webs.

02:35:55.000 And then you look now at Africa, Europe, England, and it's cobwebs of trails.

02:36:01.000 and they say, oh, it'll say increased jet travel has caused this.

02:36:06.000 Yes, and I have to dismiss that phrase, because unfortunately the debunkers have their little methods and their little phrases.

02:36:13.000 And the spider web thing just, it doesn't apply.

02:36:16.000 And it appears as though we're dealing with a polymer is the best that I can come up with right now.

02:36:20.000 No, no, I meant the satellite photos where there's these webs of trails.

02:36:24.000 Oh, just the webs of the planes, yeah.

02:36:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:36:26.000 Yeah, very true.

02:36:27.000 Yeah, NASA, again, I believe the processes of indoctrination are very much in place.

02:36:32.000 All right, I know you've got to go in just a moment.

02:36:33.000 Let's just rampage through these calls.

02:36:35.000 Eleanor in Tennessee, thanks for holding her on the air.

02:36:39.000 Well Alex, in the late 90s I lay on the ground outside and observed fixed-wing aircraft, two of them, one going back and forth one way in one area of the sky, another going back and forth in another area of the sky.

02:36:52.000 They were low enough that I could see they had a canister on either side of the aircraft behind the front wings.

02:36:59.000 From those canisters came these clouds of whatever.

02:37:02.000 You know, with whatever was being spewed out, the planes were going back and forth over an area, expressing the substance till the sky is full of trails.

02:37:12.000 Within four or five hours, the trails spread out.

02:37:15.000 They come together to form what I call a blanket over the sky.

02:37:18.000 I had read where the Russians used such during World War II to keep the Germans from Thank you, Ali.

02:37:27.000 Thank you.

02:37:27.000 You want to comment on what she just said?

02:37:28.000 Just in my case, in my particular area here, all of my work, I've measured it over and over, and I'm a pretty good judge of altitude.

02:37:35.000 I was a surveyor in the past.

02:37:37.000 All of my work here is at high altitude.

02:37:39.000 There are no planes that fly low here.

02:37:40.000 If there were, you can bet that I would have some photographs of what's happening.

02:37:44.000 So those folks that are at advantageous Uh, we placed to where they can see these things at lower altitude.

02:37:51.000 Evidence is needed and it just doesn't exist properly yet.

02:37:54.000 And some of it's real.

02:37:55.000 Some of it, you know, is legitimate.

02:37:57.000 Though, we've caught them doing biological, chemical, radiological tests where this is a cover.

02:38:02.000 But two months ago, I'm listening to the radio, Southwest Austin today, don't be alarmed if you see small aircraft spraying.

02:38:09.000 They're trying to kill, I believe it was the Chinese something boar beetle or something. 0.93

02:38:13.000 And then, oh, there's a deadly mosquito in Corpus Christi when I was down there fishing.

02:38:21.000 And so you'll see planes spraying.

02:38:23.000 So there are other planes out spraying legitimately.

02:38:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:38:27.000 I mean, how long have we been living with Crop dusters and agricultural control, sure.

02:38:32.000 But I'm not saying that's what she saw.

02:38:34.000 I mean, I'm not poo-pooing her.

02:38:35.000 Sure, I'm not.

02:38:36.000 I mean, I'm not poo-pooing her either.

02:38:37.000 I'm just, sometimes there's real stuff going on.

02:38:39.000 Exactly.

02:38:40.000 Very fast, let's talk to Mike in Texas, and then Lee, and that's it.

02:38:43.000 Mike, go ahead.

02:38:44.000 Oh, thanks a lot, Alex.

02:38:45.000 God bless y'all for the work that you're doing.

02:38:47.000 I just want to say, a couple years ago, I was looking at what you call a chemtrail in the sky.

02:38:53.000 It was always spraying where there was currently cloud cover.

02:38:56.000 You know, so a lot of people look up and they're like, okay, that's just a contrail from the plane.

02:39:00.000 But in this case, it's just on, then you turn it off for a little bit, get up to another cloud.

02:39:05.000 Well, maybe that's the cloud he put there.

02:39:06.000 The spring again.

02:39:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:39:08.000 What about this phenomenon of photos and video that have been shot where they're just turning them on and off?

02:39:13.000 Sure.

02:39:13.000 I have a classic photo of that.

02:39:15.000 One of the early ones that was taken, which is used to make this point.

02:39:19.000 And that is, in some cases, it's clearly, let's say, artificially controlled and distributed.

02:39:25.000 And that particular photo I'm talking about, let me say there was a great deal of interest by certain parties to try and identify the location, source, and timing of that photograph.

02:39:36.000 And I know that there was a clear effort to want to identify that particular pilot of that particular plane at that time, because it's a rather incriminating photograph if you look at it, taken up in Colorado.

02:39:47.000 Uh, and the explanations of variation in meteorological conditions, uh, don't... Well, you'll see stuff, too, when they're flying these grid patterns, is when they get to the end, they're ready to make their turn, they turn off, and then when they turn back around to go back, it turns back on!

02:40:02.000 These are systematic operations.

02:40:04.000 Now, they're very complex, extremely complex.

02:40:07.000 And nobody has a complete handle on exactly the logistics of it, but they are systematic.

02:40:12.000 Last caller, Lee in Pennsylvania.

02:40:15.000 You're on the air, Lee.

02:40:16.000 Hi Alex, Clifford.

02:40:17.000 I have a news release I just sent over to Alex's website.

02:40:21.000 It's about oily gunk on homes.

02:40:24.000 Oily substances on Saturday were showered upon their homes and cars, and it's an oily residue that, uh, all the neighborhoods, the whole township, Got sprayed with some kind of mist.

02:40:35.000 Well, that happens all the time, and they try to claim that it's, you know, that it's sewage matter from malfunctioning planes, but what do you do when a whole town gets covered with green or black goo?

02:40:47.000 Clifford, we've seen hundreds of these cases.

02:40:49.000 What is that?

02:40:51.000 I can't speak for an oily residue, but what I can speak for is a failure.

02:40:55.000 No matter what the material is, if you have airborne materials that are unexplained that pose a potential health risk or a potential pollution risk, It seems quite reasonable.

02:41:05.000 Yeah, Fish and Wildlife should be responsible for analyzing them.

02:41:09.000 The EPA has failed us tremendously on this regard.

02:41:12.000 Well, exactly.

02:41:12.000 Fish and Wildlife comes out and tests every week for the fish and all these other groups running around, but why won't they test this?

02:41:18.000 The EPA refuses to test this filament material, fibrous material that I'm speaking of.

02:41:23.000 They refuse to test it.

02:41:26.000 What do they say when you talk to them?

02:41:29.000 Pardon me, Alex?

02:41:30.000 What do they say when you talk to them?

02:41:32.000 Boy, folks should look into their correspondence.

02:41:34.000 I have it all on the website.

02:41:35.000 Their classic line was, we refuse to analyze any unsolicited material.

02:41:42.000 Basically saying if they didn't ask for it, They don't have any obligation to identify.

02:41:47.000 Now, you've done some tests, haven't you?

02:41:49.000 I've done quite a bit of testing.

02:41:50.000 That's a big part of my work over here.

02:41:51.000 What have you found the spiderwebs are?

02:41:53.000 Well, first would be that they're not spiderwebs.

02:41:56.000 They are a most unique filament.

02:41:58.000 They don't satisfy any natural explanation whatsoever.

02:42:02.000 They are at the sub-micron level.

02:42:04.000 Asbestos fibers are two microns or less.

02:42:07.000 Most fibers are 10, 12 microns.

02:42:09.000 These things are sub-micron in size.

02:42:11.000 There are biological components that have been repeatedly identified within these fibers.

02:42:17.000 We don't know what they are properly, but I've done quite a bit of analysis, and my work is up there.

02:42:22.000 There is probably 300, 200 pages, I would guess, at least, analysis of these fibers up there.

02:42:31.000 Are you still there, Alex?

02:42:35.000 Yeah, okay, so I may have been cut off there, but there's been quite a body of research that's been done there to analyze it from the perspective that I can.

02:42:45.000 A private lab was consulted at one point at paid cost, and they issued a report which could clearly be shown to be false.

02:42:54.000 They were addressed in person for the failure of that report, and they terminated that meeting at the very early part of it.

02:43:03.000 They said this meeting is now over as soon as I raise the objections as to why that report was false.

02:43:08.000 So I'm assuming we were cut off then.

02:43:23.000 Thank you.

02:44:03.000 And I'll keep this world from dragging me Ladies and gentlemen, we're here back live, and that never happens unless we're getting into really key information.

02:44:12.000 I'm down here in Austin, Texas.

02:44:13.000 They're up in Minnesota.

02:44:15.000 Clifford Carnicone, I guess I need to go ahead and say bye to you now.

02:44:19.000 I am back, though.

02:44:20.000 I'm here with you.

02:44:21.000 Are you there?

02:44:21.000 Thanks very much, Alex.

02:44:22.000 Yeah, I'll get out of the way for you.

02:44:24.000 They're not feeding me your audio right now.

02:44:25.000 If I can list an 800 number where people can get a copy of the documentary.

02:44:27.000 All right, we're going to go ahead and go back to music.

02:44:29.000 And thank you for joining us.

02:44:31.000 Thank you.

02:45:09.000 I'm gonna stand my ground And I won't back down.

02:45:16.000 I won't back down.

02:45:20.000 Hey, baby.

02:45:22.000 There ain't no easy way out.

02:45:25.000 I won't back down.

02:45:28.000 Hey, I'm gonna stand my ground.

02:45:34.000 And I won't back down.

02:45:37.000 Well I know what's right.

02:45:43.000 I got just one life.

02:45:45.000 In a world that keeps on pushing me around.

02:45:51.000 But I'll stand my ground.

02:45:54.000 And I won't back down.

02:45:56.000 Back then I'm gonna say Hey, baby There ain't no easy way out I'm gonna say Hey, I Will stand with my friend And I want back down.

02:46:19.000 Alex Jones here via telephone.

02:46:37.000 We'll try to work this out.

02:46:39.000 This only happens when we have key guests on, but I'm sure it does.

02:46:42.000 I'm sure it's all a technical thing.

02:46:44.000 Clifford, in closing here, I want to thank you for coming on and joining us today.

02:46:48.000 I really appreciate you spending time with us.

02:46:50.000 Go ahead and give out that toll-free number.

02:46:51.000 People will get a copy of your film.

02:46:53.000 Alex, thanks very much for all that you've done today.

02:46:54.000 I appreciate it very much.

02:46:56.000 This phone number is for Harriet Fell.

02:46:58.000 She is helping to get this documentary out at cost.

02:47:00.000 There is no profit to be made with this.

02:47:02.000 The phone number is 1-800-335-7226.

02:47:07.000 And I appreciate that very much.

02:47:10.000 You bet.

02:47:10.000 Where do you see things going in the future, Clifford?

02:47:12.000 You say you're working on something new in closing here.

02:47:15.000 Give us an idea what it is.

02:47:16.000 This issue of this disease that has emerged over the past several years, the popular term being given is Mergellin's disease.

02:47:24.000 There's a serious topic of research here that needs a lot of help and I may be contributing to that.

02:47:30.000 Do you think the two are connected because we have the reports of these tiny fibers and that's what's reported to be coming out of skin and then we have real serious doctors?

02:47:37.000 Talking to people and, you know, removing it where clearly there's been no incision, it's just somehow in them?

02:47:43.000 It's possible they're connected, and I guess that's the very question.

02:47:47.000 I'm not trying to draw a connection before it's there, but I think it's valid to raise that question.

02:47:51.000 And what we can say is that that issue is being managed, the Mergellons issue, is being managed exactly in the same way that this issue has been managed.

02:48:01.000 Basically calling people delusional.

02:48:03.000 Alright, Clever Carnicom, thank you so much for joining us.

02:48:05.000 Thanks a whole lot, Alex.

02:48:07.000 You bet.

02:48:08.000 It is not delusional that they knowingly for ten years put AIDS virus and HIV in hundreds of thousands of hemophiliacs, blood supply here in the U.S., tens of thousands in Canada, and hundreds of thousands worldwide.

02:48:20.000 It is not a conspiracy theory that they gave black men syphilis.

02:48:24.000 It is not a conspiracy theory they nerve gassed U.S. 0.96

02:48:27.000 troops.

02:48:28.000 It is not a conspiracy theory.

02:48:30.000 All of this is open for discussion, and anybody that tells you you shouldn't look into something has got a serious problem.

02:48:36.000 We'll be back with a final segment.

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02:51:51.000 Here's a story out of News 7 out of Denver, Colorado.

02:51:55.000 Marshall's innocent people placed on a watch list to meet quota.

02:51:58.000 Marshall said they must file one surveillance detection report or SDR per month.

02:52:04.000 When you're put in a terrorist database, you could be on a senior government database on which lists for simply taking a picture on an airplane.

02:52:11.000 Some federal air marshals say they're reporting your actions to meet a quota, even though some top officials deny it.

02:52:18.000 The Air Marshals' identities are being concealed, told 7 News.

02:52:22.000 They go risk their careers, everything, to tell this, and the Feds say, oh, it's not true, because they're so trustworthy.

02:52:28.000 The Air Marshals' identities are being concealed, told 7 News.

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02:52:52.000 Well, that's the whole plan in a secret police society.

02:52:56.000 It isn't about stopping terror, it's about getting us all in databases.

02:53:00.000 And by the way, we're going to be writing a big article on this.

02:53:02.000 I've sent it to Paul Watson.

02:53:03.000 Jerome Corsi broke it on my show yesterday.

02:53:06.000 We've since, on the Federal Government's own website, found their PDF file.

02:53:10.000 You will have an American Union ID card.

02:53:13.000 As Ridge said, I told you four years ago, I saw Homeland Security Ed Ridge Then head, say that there'll be four levels of how you're trusted.

02:53:20.000 Green, yellow, orange, red.

02:53:23.000 Bad credit, you get a yellow and you have no rights. 0.99

02:53:26.000 Oh, you have rights if you're green, but no rights for things that are non-criminal. 0.99

02:53:32.000 This will be the new America. 0.93

02:53:33.000 All the illegal aliens will be instantly legalized. 0.95

02:53:38.000 Yes, it's actually happening, my friends.

02:53:43.000 It just boggles the mind.

02:53:44.000 A program note, C-SPAN claims they'll be airing the big 9-11 Scholars Symposium, American Scholars Symposium, 9-11 Neocon Agenda, roundtable discussion, panel discussion we had three-plus weeks ago.

02:54:00.000 They claim this Saturday, 8 p.m.

02:54:02.000 Eastern, C-SPAN 1, American Perspectives.

02:54:08.000 But they still haven't posted it on the schedule.

02:54:11.000 And the reason I'm concerned is they said, oh, it might be the next week.

02:54:15.000 So they're trying to make us basically forget about all this, or the war in Iran is going to kick off and this isn't going to happen.

02:54:21.000 Who knows?

02:54:21.000 It's just normally they air something within two weeks.

02:54:24.000 So call in to C-SPAN, Washington Journal every morning and say, hey, when is that going on the schedule?

02:54:29.000 Hey, when is that?

02:54:30.000 InfoWars.com!

02:54:32.000 And I'm asking you, the listeners, to call into all the mainstream radio talk shows, the truth talk shows, the patriot talk shows, and tell them about Terror Storm.

02:54:41.000 Tell them about my new film, if you've seen it, if you like it, on DVD or on the web.

02:54:48.000 If this is going to get promoted, if this is going to have an effect, it is really up to you to help us out with it.

02:54:53.000 So post it on message boards, email it to your friends, tell them they can watch it at PrisonPlanet.tv or call toll free and get your copy and start making copies.

02:55:02.000 The power of you, the listeners, getting my videos and making copies and getting them out to people is just so wonderful!

02:55:10.000 And I've never made a film this good.

02:55:12.000 I'm so proud of it.

02:55:13.000 I hope you'll get it.

02:55:14.000 My other films are excellent as well.

02:55:15.000 Martial Law, Order of Death, Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror.

02:55:18.000 They're all excellent.

02:55:19.000 1-888-253-3139 is the toll-free number to order.

02:55:21.000 1-888-253-3139.

02:55:21.000 Or you can simply write to me.

02:55:22.000 1-888-253-3139 is the toll-free number to order, 1-888-253-3139.

02:55:28.000 Or you can simply write to me, I'm Alex Jones, at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.

02:55:37.000 So see it online at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:55:40.000 Call toll-free, 888-253-3139. Or order a hard copy right now at Infowars.com.

02:55:48.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:55:50.000 More big guests throughout the week, vital information as we chronicle the New World Order's criminal activities here Monday through Friday, 11 to 2, and you heard it, back from 9 to midnight.

02:56:01.000 Now get out there, expose the terrorists, be bold, be strong.

02:56:05.000 They're doing a lot of crazy, bizarre stuff.

02:56:07.000 The sky's the limit, literally.

02:56:09.000 If you can think of it, and it's horrible, but it's worse what they're doing.

02:56:13.000 That's what I found.

02:56:15.000 And so we've just got to expose them.

02:56:16.000 We've got to fight them.

02:56:17.000 There are more of us than there are of them.

02:56:19.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - July 24, 2006

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