Alex Jones Show - 20060726_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 It is Wednesday, the 26th day of July.

00:00:33.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:37.000 We had him on for about a half hour last week, Michael Papantonio, and he's really the main owner of Air America, has a show there on the broadcast with Mr. Kennedy Jr.

00:00:54.000 And he joined us, he's the main lawyer who went after Bayer and got their own documents where they were knowingly putting AIDS and hepatitis filled pathogens into the factor A for hemophiliacs globally.

00:01:05.000 Well today he's going to be coming on to talk about election fraud here in the United States and all the clear evidence of it with Diebold and others are up to in the second hour.

00:01:20.000 And clearly the election fraud is controlled by the Republicans at this time.

00:01:24.000 I'm not saying go run vote for Democrats either.

00:01:26.000 We're just here facing the facts, covering the information as it truly is.

00:01:34.000 Then in the third hour, Dr. Doug Rockey, the former head of the Army's DU depleted uranium program, will be joining us with the evidence of Israel receiving shipments from the U.S.

00:01:46.000 of Uranium tipped shells and munitions and using them right now in Southern Lebanon right up into Northern Lebanon.

00:01:57.000 And we all get to breathe it because the different air streams blow right over the Middle East, right across Israel, right across the Mediterranean, right across the Southwestern and Southern United States.

00:02:08.000 Of course it blows everywhere but there's a nice band from the radiation detectors and we know what the wind patterns are.

00:02:15.000 And of course our own government use the equivalent of 44,000 A-bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan in the two Iraq conflicts and of course in Afghanistan.

00:02:26.000 They're still using it.

00:02:27.000 The numbers of 44,000 A-bombs that is a two and a half year old number.

00:02:32.000 I'm told it's much worse.

00:02:34.000 We can ask Dr. Doug Rockey coming up in the third hour about that as well.

00:02:40.000 In the meantime, we will have open phones for you.

00:02:44.000 And we'll have open phones for those two guests to join us.

00:02:47.000 At the same time, the CDC, Centers for Disease Control, considers Texas for Morgellons disease study.

00:02:54.000 This out of KENS5 television.

00:02:58.000 Get into that report.

00:02:59.000 Of course, Israel. 0.95

00:03:01.000 Israel bomb kills four UN observers and others who were in the building in Lebanon.

00:03:06.000 Kofi Annan calls it a deliberate act.

00:03:09.000 Meanwhile, have you seen the video of Connelisa Rice in the meetings the last few days with the Lebanese leader and others?

00:03:15.000 She's smiling, laughing, giggling, snickering.

00:03:18.000 She acts like she just won the lottery.

00:03:20.000 That's her body language, just radiant, fun, just like William Crystal and the rest of them.

00:03:26.000 This just isn't how you act when you're in a war.

00:03:29.000 No one ever has in the past, unless you're talking about You know, the famous film footage of after Hitler attacked Czechoslovakia and Poland. 0.69

00:03:37.000 There's video of him and Herman Goering and they're making a deal, a treaty with the Russians, rubbing their hands together, jumping up and down.

00:03:45.000 But, just amazing stuff.

00:03:48.000 I don't know why they're so happy that all these Lebanese and Israelis, for that matter, are dying. 1.00

00:03:54.000 Annan calls the attack deliberate targeting.

00:03:56.000 Well, no kidding it is.

00:03:58.000 Also, thirty soldiers hurt in Just one village alone that the Israelis have gone into.

00:04:04.000 Another report that 14 Israeli soldiers have been killed by Hezbollah just in the last few days.

00:04:11.000 And no one knows how many Lebanese.

00:04:13.000 I mean, the number was 400 a week ago.

00:04:15.000 And they're still trying to keep the number down at that level.

00:04:18.000 But I mean, they're bombing Beirut.

00:04:20.000 They're bombing southern villages.

00:04:21.000 They're bombing the north.

00:04:23.000 They're blowing up convoys of Red Cross vehicles.

00:04:26.000 There's video of it.

00:04:28.000 Up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:04:32.000 Israel wants to, quote, set Hezbollah free zone.

00:04:34.000 That means grab half of Lebanon, basically. 0.89

00:04:38.000 And we will also get into the American Union.

00:04:41.000 Big breaking news on that.

00:04:43.000 Lou Dobbs says, why is the President ignoring our laws?

00:04:48.000 And we've got a new New American article out on the American Union as well.

00:04:54.000 A ton of vital news and information straight ahead in your calls.

00:04:58.000 Stay with us.

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00:08:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:11.000 Alright, we're going to plunge into the latest Middle East developments as Israel rampages, attacking their neighbors, the bombing of the U.N.

00:08:20.000 outpost, killing four deliberately.

00:08:22.000 We've got video and audio and photos of them blowing up ambulances with extreme prejudice and pleasure.

00:08:30.000 You imagine Hezbollah has blown up Israeli ambulances. 0.93

00:08:34.000 They're so evil!

00:08:35.000 And that is evil when they do stuff like that. 0.66

00:08:37.000 Again, I'm not saying Hezbollah is perfect. 0.98

00:08:39.000 I'm just tired of Israel standing around like they're just pure as the driven snow and they're the little guy when they've got the fifth biggest military in the world. 0.85

00:08:47.000 Okay, I'm digressing.

00:08:49.000 That's coming up.

00:08:50.000 We've got two big guests today.

00:08:52.000 Dr. Doug Rockey, third hour about DU being used by the Israelis.

00:08:55.000 We also have Michael Papantonio.

00:08:58.000 I'm going to talk about election fraud in this nation and what the neocons are up to right now.

00:09:04.000 Also, the CDC considers Texas for Morgellons disease study.

00:09:08.000 That's just some of what's coming up.

00:09:10.000 But let me give you a few program notes right now before the broadcast elapses and I don't have time to get into it.

00:09:18.000 I'm going to be debuting my new film Terror Storm coming up in Dallas.

00:09:24.000 That is the official completed film.

00:09:27.000 A Rough Cut was aired a month ago in Los Angeles to a crowd of 1,200 plus people.

00:09:34.000 But there was a 9-11 event up in Dallas this last weekend at a beautiful theater just a few hundred yards from where I lived the first five years of my life, right there by White Rock Lake.

00:09:48.000 I grew up there on San Fernando Way.

00:09:51.000 It was a street I was born on.

00:09:53.000 I don't know why I'm getting off into that.

00:09:56.000 I'm going to be up there near my old stomping grounds, we could say, at the beautiful Lakewood Theater.

00:10:02.000 I love old Paramount-style, Art Deco movie theaters.

00:10:09.000 It is the only stand-alone, one-screen theater left in Dallas.

00:10:14.000 It is beautiful.

00:10:16.000 It can seat 800, it can really seat 900, but I don't want people to be cramped, so we're going to space it out where there's only going to be 700 tickets sold, and tickets are not for sale yet.

00:10:30.000 But believe me, it will sell out, and so by tomorrow or Friday, the latest, we will have links up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, so you can go and get tickets.

00:10:44.000 And who's going to be there?

00:10:46.000 I'm going to show the 113 minute final cut of Terror Storm and then I'm going to give about a 30 minute speech and take questions for about 20 minutes and then Jim Mars, who actually is the main writer for the film JFK, my favorite movie.

00:11:03.000 You ought to see the director's cut.

00:11:05.000 It's incredible.

00:11:05.000 I just keep ranting about it.

00:11:07.000 It's so good.

00:11:07.000 He joins us tomorrow to play clips of the film and talk about it and talk about how he basically wrote the screenplay with Oliver Stone.

00:11:15.000 We'll go through some of the new things that have come out about the assassination of JFK by the military-industrial complex and Cold War warriors.

00:11:23.000 Jim Mars will speak for an hour and take questions and answer them.

00:11:29.000 And then I'm going to air about 35-45 minutes, a rough cut of some of what you'll see probably six months from now in my big Bilderberg group film that I'm going to be making.

00:11:41.000 I mean, the film is in development right now.

00:11:42.000 I haven't even started making it.

00:11:44.000 But we're going to put together here in the next month a rough cut of some of the best stuff, some of the best interviews of the police threatening to arrest us, of us being detained, of the different things that happened while I was up in Ottawa, June 8th, 9th, and 10th of last month.

00:12:03.000 So, then we're going to play that, and then I believe we're going to have a great kind of lounge act, which is, you know, he even plays big outfits in Las Vegas, and they just do a great job, they're anti-New World Order, and that's Shanghai Five. 0.96

00:12:18.000 Jim Mars is confirmed.

00:12:19.000 My film is confirmed to be playing there.

00:12:21.000 And the Bilderberg Group, that's going to be there, the footage of that.

00:12:25.000 But then at around midnight, when all of that is over, two hours of Shanghai Five.

00:12:32.000 They said they'll do it, and we've just got to work out the details.

00:12:35.000 So it's going to be wonderful.

00:12:37.000 And what happens is people never believe me.

00:12:42.000 They never listen to me.

00:12:43.000 We sold about 1,150 tickets, and we cut it off about a week before the 9-11 symposium because I knew we'd have about 50 guests and 50 media or so, and the place was only rated for around 1,200, so the fire marshal wouldn't let us sell more tickets, basically.

00:13:01.000 And the last week, in one day, I think the toll-free number had over 300 requests.

00:13:07.000 We had hundreds of emails, people trying to get tickets.

00:13:10.000 We could have easily sold another thousand tickets or so.

00:13:13.000 There in the last week, everybody waited.

00:13:14.000 Then we had hundreds of people that showed up, wanting to get in, who couldn't because the fire marshal was there, and who were hopping mad because they thought they could buy tickets at the door.

00:13:26.000 You will not be able to buy tickets at the door for this event in Dallas and we're only going to sell 700.

00:13:35.000 The theater with theater seating seats 900 but there's some obstructions in the upper balcony so we're just going to block off those seats and not sell them because I want it to be a good experience for everybody and we're going to have a bigger stage out there and everything so it's I'm already belaboring it.

00:13:54.000 It's just, believe me, as soon as these tickets go up for sale tomorrow or Friday, you better snatch them.

00:14:00.000 If you're planning to bring friends and family, you better get them, because it will sell out.

00:14:05.000 I mean, I've had, I don't know, I haven't counted them up, 40, 50, 60, I don't know, events over the last, I don't think I've had more than that, over the last six, seven years, and we've had one event, one event, In a big theater that I don't know held like 400 people in Houston where the theater was 80% filled.

00:14:26.000 We've had one event where maybe 30 seats weren't filled.

00:14:31.000 Every other event, I mean, I've had events where it's a theater that holds 250 and 200 and something people get turned away.

00:14:37.000 And that's always exciting.

00:14:39.000 It's great to know that, you know, that the word's getting out there.

00:14:41.000 People are aware and that, you know, that this is happening.

00:14:44.000 And then you can already buy tickets for, I'm going to have five showings and five showings only.

00:14:49.000 I've had as many as nine before, all sellouts in a row.

00:14:53.000 But I'll be at every event and give a speech and take questions and comments at the end of Terror Storm in September.

00:14:59.000 The 4th, 5th, and 6th.

00:15:02.000 And then I may be going to New York after that, so we're not having any that week.

00:15:04.000 And when I get back, we're going to have it on the, what is it, the 13th, 14th, and 15th is it?

00:15:11.000 No, 13th and 14th.

00:15:12.000 So there's five showings of that.

00:15:14.000 And you can go to the Alamo Draft House South Lamar online and get those tickets.

00:15:18.000 And it always sells out.

00:15:19.000 Sometimes a week and a half before, normally two days before.

00:15:22.000 So every event has sold out that I've ever had except one.

00:15:25.000 Alright, I meant to spend a minute and a half on this and I've already spent four minutes on it.

00:15:31.000 Let me now plunge into the news.

00:15:34.000 But again, tickets are available right now at the Alamo Draft House for the September showings.

00:15:40.000 Where to start?

00:15:41.000 Before I get into the new developments in Israel, I'm sure most of you already know all of the details, but I'll comment on and recap what's been happening in the last 24 hours.

00:15:51.000 Really serious escalation.

00:15:53.000 Israel is now openly talking about going all the way to northern Lebanon, grabbing a third or half the country, which will trigger, Syria has said, their coming into the war.

00:16:04.000 And this all coincides with Bush saying he has an ultimatum for Iran, and neocons all over radio, TV, and the newspapers saying we need to go ahead and attack Iran, Israeli leaders saying that, that we need to go ahead and attack Iran so they don't have to.

00:16:16.000 This is all a provocation to basically get the war drums beating full speed so that we'll all get into kind of tribal mode and get behind our, quote, leader, George W., the chicken hawk.

00:16:31.000 And I've always been critical of Israel, but a lot of people try to say Israel is the source of all evil on planet Earth.

00:16:42.000 And the crowd that seems to think this, more often than not, admires Adolf Hitler.

00:16:47.000 And I don't like Adolf Hitler.

00:16:48.000 He's a very evil, occultic individual set up by the globalists and the owners of IBM and the Bushes and the British Royalty and many others, and that's just historical fact.

00:16:58.000 We have the official newspaper article from the 40s and the official Library of Congress documents. 0.83

00:17:05.000 But I mean, I've always criticized Israel and its racist policies of You're arrested if you try to marry a Jew and you're not Jewish over there. 0.95

00:17:15.000 I mean, that's pretty darn racist. 0.92

00:17:16.000 I don't know how that's acceptable.

00:17:17.000 Or, Christians aren't allowed to proselytize or hand out tracts or have church meetings anywhere in Israel.

00:17:25.000 And then how the so-called evangelicals, who are anything but Christian, how they can say, praise the Lord, that's wonderful of Israel, which they do.

00:17:33.000 I've seen them and read them defending it.

00:17:38.000 My point is that it's more effective to criticize Israel for the bad things they're doing than to basically come at it from an anti-semitic angle, which a lot of people do.

00:17:53.000 I mean, you've all heard it. 0.99

00:17:55.000 Jews are inherently evil. 1.00

00:17:56.000 They're the devil's seed. 1.00

00:17:59.000 And I do not hold to that.

00:17:59.000 All of this.

00:18:01.000 I have a lot of Jewish friends.

00:18:02.000 They're all anti-war.

00:18:04.000 They're totally against what's happening.

00:18:05.000 They call Israel racist.

00:18:08.000 In major polls, what, 60% of the Jews were against what the government was doing.

00:18:12.000 Now they've gotten into tribal mode, just like Americans do. 0.99

00:18:15.000 And the vast majority now are for what's happening, because they're getting hit by the Katyusha rockets.

00:18:21.000 But there are a lot of refuseniks and others that aren't going along with what's happening.

00:18:27.000 But I have been forced to come out with a really bold stance against what the Labor-slash-Likudnik Zionists are doing in Israel right now, because they are bringing us into World War III, and I do not want to go to war with Iran. 0.90

00:18:42.000 I do not want to go to war with Syria. 0.63

00:18:45.000 They've done nothing to us, and I know that our government is saying that Hezbollah and Hamas is quote about to hit us, and I predicted they'd do that. 1.00

00:18:53.000 I predicted that if they were about to stage a false flag attack, that we'd see them plant those stories.

00:18:58.000 I'm seeing that hype, just like I saw pre-911.

00:19:02.000 The hair on the back of my neck is standing up, and I believe Israel, the British, or the U.S., it's all the same global group.

00:19:07.000 One of these groups, they may even contract out the criminals or some other group.

00:19:11.000 We'll probably, there's a good chance, stage a terror attack very soon in England, the U.S.

00:19:17.000 or something massive in Israel as a pretext to then blame Iran or Syria and bring us into World War III.

00:19:24.000 And I don't want to see hundreds of thousands of Americans die in this new expanding global war.

00:19:30.000 They want World War III.

00:19:31.000 That's the PNAC plan to invade 66 countries.

00:19:35.000 They've already invaded 3 of the 66.

00:19:42.000 And so, I'm trying to stop this in my own little feeble way, but together we may be able to, especially if we throw ourselves down in front of God and ask Him for forgiveness.

00:19:54.000 And, oh, it's just horrible.

00:19:56.000 It's just totally horrible.

00:19:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:17.000 I've seen too many videos of Israelis running over people, peaceful people, Americans, Palestinians, others with armored bulldozers, shooting children, laughing about it, posing by the dead bodies.

00:24:30.000 And then you don't see that on our news.

00:24:33.000 And it's wrong what Israel's doing. 0.84

00:24:34.000 And Israel is simply, again, escalating the entire world in the World War III. 0.96

00:24:40.000 So the oil companies get to grab all the oil and basically restrict the flow of oil to jack up prices.

00:24:47.000 So the defense contractors get to sell hundreds of billions of dollars a year in increased weapons sales and no-bid contracts.

00:24:54.000 And so Israel gets to widen its landmass, gets to expand its borders. 0.72

00:25:00.000 And that's in the stated Pentagon and in Israeli documents.

00:25:03.000 .

00:25:04.000 It's wrong!

00:25:06.000 But it is indeed happening, and the globalists know that when they're in the middle of a war, their approval ratings go back up, and they're able to move forward with the final part of their plan, domestic police states in the Western world.

00:25:19.000 As you know, Israel has bombed and killed four U.N.

00:25:23.000 observers at least.

00:25:25.000 They have bombed U.N.

00:25:26.000 sites before.

00:25:26.000 They knowingly, with a pinpoint strike, hit the facility.

00:25:33.000 An Israeli airstrike yesterday hit a U.N.

00:25:35.000 base in southern Lebanon, killing four United Nations observers.

00:25:38.000 Lebanese security forces said Israel has now admitted it and said that they're quote investigating it.

00:25:43.000 The UNIFIL peacekeeping force in Lebanon confirmed that there were UN casualties but declined to say if any observers had been killed.

00:25:50.000 That's from last night.

00:25:52.000 Now they admit that indeed at least four were killed and others that were in the structure.

00:25:56.000 This is out of United Press International.

00:25:59.000 Annan calls the attack deliberate targeting.

00:26:01.000 UN Security General Kofi Annan, Secretary General, has condemned the killing of four military observers in Lebanon by Israeli forces, calling it deliberate targeting.

00:26:11.000 I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli defense forces of a UN observer post in southern Lebanon.

00:26:20.000 Well, they're going into that village.

00:26:21.000 They can't have the UNC.

00:26:22.000 them slaughtering all the civilians, I would add.

00:26:25.000 Annan said Tuesday in a statement from Rome, where he is to attend a high-level international meeting on Lebanon today, and they're saying those talks are breaking down right now, by the way, he called the act a coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established, yeah, he got hit by multiple salvos, and clearly he called the act a coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established, yeah, he got hit by multiple salvos, and clearly marked UN post, and said he had received personal assurances from

00:26:52.000 Annan said General Alan Pellegrin, the UN force commander in South Lebanon, had been in regular contact with the Razi forces throughout the day and Tuesday, and had stressed the need to protect that particular UN position from attack.

00:27:06.000 We hear many times that the Israelis attacked the USS Liberty in 1967, During the six-day war...

00:27:16.000 Because that ship was picking up relayed information about an admitted massacre carried out by Ariel Saron of hundreds of civilians.

00:27:25.000 But that really is a shill.

00:27:26.000 The main operation was between our government and Israel, and I've talked to the admirals and JAG officers about this.

00:27:32.000 They've got the evidence, and we've got the evidence in my film, Terror Storm, that our government with Israel conspired to sink that ship and kill all aboard to blame it on Egypt to start World War III back then. 0.73

00:27:43.000 They just keep trying to do it, and they may succeed this time.

00:27:47.000 It's really scary.

00:27:49.000 I call on the Government of Israel to conduct a full investigation into this very disturbing incident, and demand that any further attack on UN positions and personnel must stop and instead.

00:27:57.000 The names and nationalities of those killed are being withheld until family members can be notified.

00:28:02.000 So we should learn soon.

00:28:04.000 And again, it could be more than four dead.

00:28:07.000 Very, very serious.

00:28:09.000 Another report here, this is out of the Associated Press, out of Beirut, Lebanon, 14 Israeli troops killed by Hezbollah.

00:28:15.000 Hezbollah inflicted heavy casualties on Israeli troops as they battled for a key hilltop town in southern Lebanon for a fourth day today, Wednesday, with as many as 14 soldiers reported killed.

00:28:24.000 Lebanese officials meanwhile confirmed that four UN observers were killed by an Israeli airstrike on their post Tuesday night.

00:28:33.000 And, you know, we don't know, I'm sure some of these Israelis have been killed by Hezbollah and Hamas, but We also know that yesterday it was reported that an Israeli attack drone, armed drone, attacked Israeli forces.

00:28:46.000 They claim no one was killed, but a lot of times friendly fire gets covered up, and they claim that some enemy did it.

00:28:53.000 It doesn't really matter in the final equation, but it's interesting to note that in the fog of war, it will take time to learn

00:29:01.000 It'll take time to get a clearer picture, we'll never probably have a completely crystal clear picture on this, only that Israel has taken normal occurrences, soldiers being captured, a few Katyusha rockets being fired, that's always happening, and hyped it into full-scale war, and now our government's talking about attacking Iran and Syria, and Syria's stupidly talking about moving into southern Lebanon, moving to Lebanon, and it's just a powder keg.

00:29:26.000 We'll come back, take calls, play a little four-minute news clip, Where ambulances are being attacked.

00:29:33.000 Can't see the video, but you'll be able to hear the audio.

00:29:34.000 The video's up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

00:29:37.000 And we'll get into a bunch of domestic police state news, some news on Morgellons, and a lot more on the other side.

00:29:45.000 Stay with us.

00:29:46.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:29.000 Thank you.

00:33:30.000 of this live Wednesday edition, 26th day of July.

00:33:34.000 We've got Mike Papantonio joining us to talk about election fraud.

00:33:38.000 In the second hour, we will have open phones on that subject coming up.

00:33:43.000 And we'll go to your calls here in just a moment.

00:33:46.000 Before I go any further though, let me just tell you some of the other news that's coming up.

00:33:50.000 Lou Dobbs has written a great editorial.

00:33:53.000 Why is the President ignoring our laws?

00:33:56.000 This on the heels of the American Bar Association coming out and just saying, this President is completely lawless.

00:34:01.000 He just violates federal laws every day, in every way, across the board, and has nothing to do, quote, with national security.

00:34:07.000 See, it starts with, oh, we break the law for national security, and then, oh, we break the law for campaign finance, oh, and oh, we break the law for, we do whatever we want.

00:34:15.000 We write the law just by statements the President makes.

00:34:18.000 He doesn't even, it's crazy.

00:34:22.000 Also, big reports out here on NAFTA.

00:34:26.000 This is an article written by Paul Watson.

00:34:29.000 We have links to the actual documents on the U.S.

00:34:31.000 government's own websites.

00:34:32.000 NAFTA Superhighway RFID Card for U.S.

00:34:36.000 Citizens Trusted Traveler Toll Road System means government will decide if and where you are allowed to travel.

00:34:45.000 And it gets into this.

00:34:46.000 And this will instantly legalize all the Mexicans and all the Canadians to come into the U.S. 0.92

00:34:50.000 unabated.

00:34:52.000 Another article here by Kelly Taylor for the New American Magazine.

00:34:56.000 And it says, Coming Through the NAFTA Superhighway.

00:35:00.000 So that report's out today.

00:35:02.000 Another one by Chuck Baldwin.

00:35:04.000 President Bush continues to sell America to foreign interest.

00:35:07.000 I want to get into all these reports.

00:35:09.000 Another report from WorldNetDaily by Jerome Corsi.

00:35:12.000 Feds finally release info on Superstate.

00:35:15.000 Asked to disclose details of plan that could form North American Union.

00:35:19.000 That's what it is for me.

00:35:22.000 Another scary article here.

00:35:23.000 Judge dismisses phone records lawsuit.

00:35:25.000 So what if AT&T records everything you do and gives it to the government without warrants?

00:35:29.000 They're allowed to, the federal judge says.

00:35:31.000 All part of the lawlessness.

00:35:34.000 Another scary article out of a telegraph.

00:35:37.000 Pentagon declares war on internet combat movies and it said called snuff films by critics.

00:35:44.000 That's what it is.

00:35:44.000 Them killing people and laughing about it.

00:35:46.000 The Pentagon's telling the troops, hey, quit releasing these.

00:35:50.000 And what are the tapes?

00:35:51.000 Abrams tanks with dead bodies tied to them, Abrams tanks with skulls mounted on them, 666 on helicopters, Satan spray-painted on tanks.

00:36:00.000 By the way, it is a large percentage of them that have this.

00:36:03.000 Blaring heavy metal, slaughter music, murdering children, women, laughing, snickering, sitting off the sides of highways, shooting cars as they blow up and roll, people falling out dead on the street, whole families laughing, giggling, snickering.

00:36:19.000 This is the type of stuff we post routinely.

00:36:24.000 Oh, man.

00:36:26.000 And the Pentagon's saying, please stop it.

00:36:28.000 And, of course, this on the heels... Well, I said I'd go to your calls.

00:36:33.000 I'll get to it later if I have time.

00:36:34.000 It's just that...

00:36:35.000 Remember, we went and dug out the Ithaca Journal article from 2002, where the army soldiers are saying, yeah, we're ordered to kill all women and children in villages. 0.99

00:36:43.000 We just kill everyone.

00:36:44.000 And the Pentagon goes, well, let us clarify. 0.99

00:36:47.000 Yes, only in certain areas where there are combatants, we do kill everyone.

00:36:51.000 With ground troops up close.

00:36:53.000 Total crime.

00:36:55.000 Totally evil. 0.96

00:36:57.000 And then the mainstream America out there denies it and rationalizes it and says it isn't going on, when there's videos, admissions, all of this, and now a bunch of troops at the government, the Pentagon, are indicting, the Army is indicting them, up on charges, and they're going, wait a minute, we were ordered to kill all males! 0.99

00:37:18.000 Then you've got the other extreme of the neocons, they're like, good, yeah, kill them all! 0.94

00:37:24.000 Van in Texas, shirt on the air, welcome. 0.94

00:37:26.000 How you doing Alex?

00:37:28.000 I've been listening to you for quite a while.

00:37:32.000 Thank you for all the information that you provide us.

00:37:35.000 I just wanted to find out if here in Austin if you're aware of the fact that they are spraying chemicals at night?

00:37:42.000 It's usually like that.

00:37:43.000 Yeah, I don't really watch hardly any television.

00:37:47.000 I watch clips online of TV, but I do listen to some radio quite a bit.

00:37:50.000 And I constantly hear little announcements that there's this new moth, there's this new beetle.

00:37:57.000 Mainly in my neighborhood, the last three announcements I heard that planes are flying around spraying us and they said they do it at about 3 a.m.

00:38:04.000 Is that what you've been hearing?

00:38:05.000 Oh, they do it earlier than that.

00:38:06.000 I've seen it as early as 9 o'clock p.m.

00:38:09.000 But I don't see any difference from that in the chemical, the way it looks during the daytime.

00:38:15.000 And it's usually clear night when they're spraying.

00:38:19.000 Well let me ask you, are you talking about high altitude, what we call chemtrails?

00:38:23.000 Yeah.

00:38:24.000 Or are you talking about the announcements all over Austin News and fixed-wing aircraft spraying pesticides on us?

00:38:30.000 It looks like about high altitude because it's spreading just like it does during the daytime when there's chemicals.

00:38:36.000 When I see the chemtrails and stuff like that.

00:38:39.000 Well, we had a big discussion about that a few days ago.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, I was trying to call you.

00:38:44.000 I wasn't able to make it on the line, I guess, because I called kind of late.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, I mean, something has changed.

00:38:50.000 Condensation trails in the past didn't stay up there four hours and now they do.

00:38:55.000 And now NASA says the atmosphere has changed and we're 20% darker.

00:38:59.000 And again, satellite photos 20 years ago didn't show weird trails from space.

00:39:04.000 Now the globe has just these trails everywhere, even in satellite photos.

00:39:09.000 And NASA says it's increased air travel.

00:39:12.000 Well, you know, I've also noticed that it's not just... a lot of times it looks like they're making X's in the sky.

00:39:19.000 You know, they're crossing one another.

00:39:21.000 It's not like it's just a straight line.

00:39:23.000 Well, I mean, I've seen it where there's a hundred of them just in lines.

00:39:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:27.000 I mean, there'll be a blue sky in the morning and by afternoon it's just solid trails that never go away.

00:39:31.000 And I'm just saying that didn't happen in the past.

00:39:34.000 Thanks for the call.

00:39:34.000 What's different?

00:39:35.000 You're welcome.

00:39:36.000 I appreciate it, man.

00:39:37.000 Robert in Texas.

00:39:38.000 Robert, go ahead.

00:39:42.000 Going once, Robert.

00:39:43.000 Hi, how are you?

00:39:44.000 Good, go ahead.

00:39:46.000 I want to thank you for three of my favorite films, Terror Storm, which I just got the autographed version.

00:39:53.000 I got Martial Law, 9-11, Rise of the Police State, and The Order of Death.

00:39:58.000 And my best friend, Drew, turned me on to you.

00:40:02.000 And I just want to tell you, it's great.

00:40:03.000 And the only other thing I want to say is I hope to God we don't have World War III.

00:40:08.000 Well, watching this unfold, what is it like for you psychologically?

00:40:14.000 What are the emotions you're feeling?

00:40:19.000 Fear.

00:40:20.000 I am Jewish.

00:40:22.000 I've read a lot about Israel, but I think what they're doing is wrong.

00:40:29.000 Well, I think what they're doing is wrong, too.

00:40:30.000 And again, it isn't that we're against Israel or the Jewish people.

00:40:34.000 I mean, I'm not against the American people when I'm against the war in Iraq.

00:40:38.000 It's just, these wars are staged provocations, and they're killing civilians with pleasure, and it's horrible.

00:40:45.000 It is horrible.

00:40:47.000 I don't know, you know, with Bush and his president, I realize he's a minion, it doesn't help things either, you know.

00:40:57.000 No it doesn't, my friend.

00:40:58.000 Thank you for the call, and I want to thank your friend Drew who turned you on to reality and gave you the red pill that dropped you down the rabbit hole that threw a bucket of cold water on you.

00:41:08.000 How many more clichés can I rattle off?

00:41:11.000 Let's talk to Art in Kansas.

00:41:13.000 Art, welcome.

00:41:13.000 Hi, Alex.

00:41:14.000 Hi.

00:41:15.000 I find it ironic and atrocious that the old Holocaust bunch has become the new Nazis. 0.99

00:41:21.000 They might as well put swastikas on all their Holocaust buildings. 0.93

00:41:27.000 Well, last time I checked, they don't have million-man slave camps, but it's starting to get close.

00:41:35.000 Close enough.

00:41:36.000 Well, look at who our government loves and deals with. 1.00

00:41:38.000 Saudi Arabia is totally corrupt, the Chinese totally corrupt, the Communist Chinese, the Israelis totally corrupt. 0.96

00:41:47.000 All these supposed free countries, England's becoming a police state, Europe's becoming a police state, the U.S. 0.99

00:41:54.000 is becoming a police state.

00:41:56.000 It's terrible.

00:41:58.000 I know it.

00:42:01.000 What else is on your mind?

00:42:02.000 That's it.

00:42:02.000 All right, good to hear from you.

00:42:04.000 Let's talk to Tony in Arkansas.

00:42:06.000 Tony, welcome.

00:42:07.000 Hey, God bless you, Alex, for your steadfastness and courage.

00:42:10.000 I wanted to come along.

00:42:11.000 I didn't know if you heard, I believe it was Monday, Condoleezza Rice flies into Beirut.

00:42:15.000 Ironically enough, all the attacks stop.

00:42:18.000 She said something that I don't know if everybody picked up on.

00:42:21.000 She said, we're watching the birth pangs of a new Middle East. 1.00

00:42:26.000 And John Stewart put that on his show.

00:42:29.000 What that is, is that is actual scripture.

00:42:32.000 Thank you.

00:42:33.000 No, they loved it.

00:42:34.000 You followed them, and I've woken up to a lot of your videos.

00:42:36.000 They love to take, I'm a Christian, they love to take the words of God and twist them to their occultic, Luciferian ends.

00:42:43.000 By the way, for those who just tuned in for the first time, that is not our opinion.

00:42:46.000 George Bush engages in satanic rituals.

00:42:49.000 Three generations back at Skull and Bones in Bohemian Grove.

00:42:52.000 I've been there.

00:42:53.000 I've seen it.

00:42:54.000 And the people, just like Christ told you, the people telling you that are out there praying in public, like the Pharisees, are the very ones you've got to watch. 0.82

00:43:02.000 Absolutely.

00:43:03.000 And when you hear that though, that lets you know, that's a call signal to anyone paying attention, the initiates, that this is not a singular engagement.

00:43:12.000 So I've been calling for the last few weeks, at least once a week, but I try to do it honestly daily.

00:43:17.000 And I would beg anyone out there listening, please do this.

00:43:20.000 I call Dennis Hastert's office.

00:43:22.000 I've been involved in Republican politics in my state for a lot of years, and I know some influential people and some staffers on both Democrat and Republican House members' staff.

00:43:32.000 They are getting hammered for impeachment.

00:43:34.000 You've got to call and beg Dennis Hastert, and if you notice, I mean, I got to talk to one of his staffers about two weeks ago and they said, they don't usually say anything.

00:43:41.000 You give your opinion, sometimes they'll even flip you over to his, just a recording line.

00:43:47.000 But, please hammer them.

00:43:48.000 The guy did say, he goes, yeah, we're getting a lot of this.

00:43:51.000 Okay, when I was begging for impeachment, and my main line was, these people, you know, put down whatever laundry list of illegal things they've done because there's so many, but say to them, the urgency of Hastert starting these hearings now is that they're going to lead us into World War III with Iran. 0.91

00:44:07.000 And if they don't act now, it won't give the legal precedent for the generals to arrest the President if he tries to lead us into a war.

00:44:13.000 Well, I agree with what you're saying.

00:44:15.000 Here's the problem.

00:44:16.000 Hillary, Schumer, Lieberman, most of the Democratic leadership is actually more rabid pro-war than the average Republican in Congress.

00:44:26.000 So, the New World Order has bought both parties, and I'm all for impeachment.

00:44:30.000 Just like Ron Paul said, they all need to be impeached, including Bush.

00:44:34.000 It's just that we have to, number one, I appreciate your call, number one right now, be focused like a laser beam on these reports where Israel and the U.S.

00:44:43.000 government are saying, oh, Hamas and Hezbollah are about to hit the U.S., Canada and England, we've got to guard targets, we've got intel they're about to hit, big terror attacks, and Iran's behind it, and Syria's behind it, we've got to go in there.

00:45:00.000 Iran and Syria have both said they don't want war.

00:45:03.000 You know, you hear these provocative statements like, Israel will be totally destroyed, we will fight back, we will crush you.

00:45:09.000 You never get the first part of the statement.

00:45:11.000 It's always when Cheney or Bolton or somebody says, we're going to destroy you and defeat you, we're going to cause you great pain, we're going to wipe you off the map.

00:45:20.000 And then Ahmadinejad will say, well, we want to work with you and not have war, but if you attack us, you will be the ones that feel great pain, and Israel will be wiped off the map.

00:45:32.000 I mean, you can go read the foreign press.

00:45:34.000 There's the full quote.

00:45:35.000 You can go read it in the Tehran Papers.

00:45:36.000 Read the full quote.

00:45:37.000 So it's deceptive.

00:45:39.000 Now, Iran has been making provocative statements. 0.96

00:45:42.000 And it's certainly corrupt. 1.00

00:45:43.000 The mullahs are a joke. 1.00

00:45:44.000 But, I mean, that's what government is. 0.99

00:45:45.000 Government's always corrupt and bad.

00:45:47.000 History shows it. 0.99

00:45:48.000 But if you go look at Syria, they have been licking boots. 1.00

00:45:53.000 They, of Israel and the U.S. 0.97

00:45:54.000 They have been arresting whoever Israel says.

00:45:57.000 They have been running around arresting, quote, extremists.

00:46:00.000 People who want political change in their country, that run the gamut, from the good to bad and the ugly.

00:46:04.000 They've had a police state over there, literally in the news, taking orders from Israel, arresting whoever they're told.

00:46:11.000 And then politically, obviously, when bombs are dropping right up on their border, and Israel's talking about going into Syria, Syria goes, well, if you do, we'll fight back!

00:46:19.000 And it's, oh, look at Syria! 0.99

00:46:21.000 They're viciously threatening Israel for no reason!

00:46:24.000 No, Israel has openly got members of the Knesset and their generals talking about attacking Damascus, talking about taking all of Lebanon, talking about going into Syria.

00:46:33.000 Neocons are on TV and radio and all over the media saying it. 0.91

00:46:37.000 And they're groveling, ladies and gentlemen.

00:46:39.000 Syria is a joke! 1.00

00:46:42.000 They are a pushover! 1.00

00:46:46.000 And they know that, and they have been licking boots just like Gaddafi for decades! 0.98

00:46:52.000 For decades! 0.59

00:46:53.000 Gaddafi, boy, in 86 when they killed his daughter, and before then he had been standing up to them and had been overselling oil.

00:47:01.000 You notice after that attack and killing some of his family, he reduced oil production?

00:47:05.000 That's what they were mad about.

00:47:06.000 It wasn't, quote, he was fronting terrorists.

00:47:08.000 It's been proven that British intelligence carried out the Lockerbie bombing.

00:47:12.000 And they told him, look, we'll kill more of your family unless you arrest these guys and say they did it, and unless you reduce oil production.

00:47:18.000 And I knew about that and I was shocked a few years ago when somebody mailed me a Frontline TV special.

00:47:24.000 I think it was Frontliner or was it Nova?

00:47:26.000 It was one of those shows and they were admitting all of this.

00:47:29.000 Can you imagine Muammar Gaddafi trying to pump his own oil?

00:47:32.000 Well, he wasn't funding terrorists.

00:47:35.000 I mean, that's the reality.

00:47:37.000 But man, he rolled over, he said, I will, yes, you can come in, you can control the Oldfields, I'll do this production, please.

00:47:43.000 Yes, sir.

00:47:44.000 And now we're told he's our ally, you see. 0.99

00:47:47.000 Well, Syria saw that and they have been literally licking, they've been sucking boots. 0.99

00:47:54.000 They have been on their backs like a dog that rolls over, wetting themselves, just begging. 0.97

00:48:01.000 Just begging and cowering in fear.

00:48:05.000 I mean, I read this stuff every day.

00:48:06.000 I follow their announcements and what they do.

00:48:08.000 And what's Israel's answer? 0.91

00:48:10.000 We may invade you!

00:48:10.000 So finally, their government will be thrown out immediately, even though it's a dictatorship.

00:48:16.000 People will riot if they don't at least say back, well, okay, we'll fight back then.

00:48:21.000 They said don't fight back!

00:48:25.000 That's the type of twisting that we witness in all of this. 1.00

00:48:30.000 And again, you've got all these idiot neocon followers, these zombies. 1.00

00:48:34.000 Who? 1.00

00:48:34.000 I hear them on the radio. 1.00

00:48:36.000 Syria's vicious and attacking us. 1.00

00:48:38.000 We need to parking lot them.

00:48:40.000 And I've said to them before in debates and on the street.

00:48:42.000 Okay, where's Syria?

00:48:43.000 It's over there, Middle East. 0.87

00:48:46.000 I go, okay, what is it's border?

00:48:48.000 It's over there.

00:48:53.000 Well, what's it's history?

00:48:55.000 Who's it's leader?

00:48:56.000 Huh?

00:48:57.000 Yes, they're all the same.

00:49:00.000 Again, over two-thirds of American college students cannot find Iraq on a map.

00:49:06.000 Eighty-plus percent of high school graduates don't know who the vice president is.

00:49:10.000 Most adults don't know anything.

00:49:12.000 They know nothing.

00:49:13.000 They are complete... I don't want to say idiots. 1.00

00:49:17.000 They're just ignorant. 1.00

00:49:18.000 They know all about NASCAR and all about acting cool and all about how to put Chinese-American desecrated flags, you know, made by slaves all over their car. 1.00

00:49:27.000 They know how to act cool.

00:49:30.000 They're totally into being macho for no reason, but they'll roll over to a cop, giving them orders by the way, and they'll hand their kids over to CPS and jab them full of deadly vaccines.

00:49:41.000 You know, they got a little kid who's a hemophiliac.

00:49:42.000 They'll probably still give them Factor VIII, even though it'll give them AIDS. 1.00

00:49:45.000 They're the types that are so cowardly. 1.00

00:49:47.000 See, cowards deny that there's corruption. 1.00

00:49:50.000 Cowards deny that bad things are going on. 0.99

00:49:53.000 Cowards deny that we're in trouble. 1.00

00:49:55.000 Cowards... I mean, you talk to one of these neocon followers, hey, the dollar's been devalued. 0.99

00:49:59.000 Huh?

00:50:00.000 What?

00:50:01.000 Yeah, and it's the Mayrebs' fault if they even know what the dollar devaluation is or what it means.

00:50:09.000 Oh, they won't call into the show, but about once a month, I'll be out at the lake eating a hamburger.

00:50:17.000 Maybe once a month I get to go fishing or something.

00:50:19.000 It's usually these upper middle class people.

00:50:23.000 Maybe 15 people come over to the table to say hi to their fans and appreciate me.

00:50:27.000 They're always driving a big Harley, and I'm not saying you're bad if you have a Harley.

00:50:30.000 It's that certain lawyer type, let's say, lobbyist type.

00:50:34.000 You know, 55 years old, pot belly, $80,000 hog, and they'll just kind of, brrrr, brrrr, hey, why don't you leave the country if you don't like it?

00:50:45.000 And I go, hey, punk!

00:50:46.000 And my family would go, hey punk, come over here and say that to my face. 0.95

00:50:49.000 They'll go, huh?

00:50:50.000 And as soon as I bull up, not to fight them, just get in their face, they'll kind of, get out of this country, off on their motorcycle.

00:50:57.000 It's year.

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00:51:26.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

00:51:37.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

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00:53:55.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

00:54:08.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:54:14.000 Here's a gem.

00:54:16.000 CIA chief says warrants ill-suited for Al-Qaeda hunts.

00:54:19.000 See, warrants are just ill-suited in America now and we don't need them.

00:54:23.000 Federal judge says, yeah, AT&T can just spy on all your phone calls and give it all to the government.

00:54:29.000 No warrants.

00:54:30.000 Just all of you being spied on.

00:54:31.000 It's freedom.

00:54:32.000 Oh, but we don't spy on American citizens, but we spy on all of you.

00:54:36.000 And, you know, getting back to neocons, it's literally probably happened 20 times or so that I'll be walking down Congress or walking downtown or walking down the street, and it's always a lawyer type on a big motorcycle who will drive by me and make a mean comment.

00:54:54.000 And, again, they've probably never been in a fight.

00:54:57.000 They've probably never been in a lot of pain.

00:54:59.000 They've probably been pampered their whole lives.

00:55:01.000 They've probably never been in the military, probably never been in combat.

00:55:05.000 They think it's manly to strut around grunting and belching and loving George Bush and sticking little flags all over their vehicles.

00:55:17.000 That's what they think America is all about while the Constitution and the country itself is being dismantled publicly.

00:55:25.000 And believe me, they're brown shirts, folks.

00:55:28.000 They will love the tyranny. 0.82

00:55:30.000 They will love being part of it, because most of them are not working for the government, but sucking off of it through corporate welfare.

00:55:37.000 And so they just love the system.

00:55:39.000 They see themselves as part of the system.

00:55:42.000 And they're the type that call in and say, let's turn the Middle East into a parking lot. 0.88

00:55:48.000 I want to go to Jerry and Patrick and others, and we will, but before we do that, my new film, Terror Storm, is out.

00:55:55.000 It's my best work yet.

00:55:56.000 The History of Government Sponsored Terror.

00:55:57.000 We go to London, cover the 7-7 bombings being an inside job.

00:56:00.000 The latest information on how the Iraq War was based on staged intelligence.

00:56:04.000 We get into the White House Memo, the Downing Street Memo.

00:56:07.000 We talk to all these government experts, in and out of government.

00:56:10.000 Then the last 20-30 minutes we cover 9-11 with the Charlie Sheen info and Professor Jones and Professor Well, Dr. Morgan Reynolds, all these other incredible people, it really is my best work.

00:56:21.000 Get your copy at InfoWars.com via the Safe Secure Online Video and Bookstore.

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00:56:36.000 A few more speakers we're going to post and we're done posting it all.

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00:56:41.000 It's like 15, 16 now that it's there.

00:56:44.000 And just all the special features, the best audio interviews, PrisonPlanet.TV.

00:56:50.000 Right now, let's talk to Jerry, calling from Canada.

00:56:54.000 You're on the air, thanks for holding.

00:56:55.000 How are you doing, Alex?

00:56:56.000 Good.

00:56:56.000 First caller.

00:56:59.000 I've got one question for you.

00:57:01.000 Sure.

00:57:02.000 You guys advertise a bookstore called Northwood, is it?

00:57:06.000 Bookstore?

00:57:06.000 At 281 Wellwood, Pennsylvania?

00:57:09.000 Northwood.

00:57:10.000 I don't know of a bookstore called Northwood.

00:57:12.000 Well, it's advertised on your thing.

00:57:14.000 Do you know the name of the place?

00:57:18.000 Northwood Bookstore.

00:57:20.000 Are you talking about Northern Voice?

00:57:22.000 Northern... Voice?

00:57:25.000 I believe there's a bookstore advertised on the network called that.

00:57:28.000 Yes.

00:57:29.000 It's N-O-R-T-H-E-R-N-V-O-I-C-E? 1.00

00:57:34.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:34.000 And you've got your radio on in the background.

00:57:35.000 Can you do me a big favor and cut that off?

00:57:38.000 Okay, I got it off.

00:57:40.000 Okay, so it's Northern Voice.

00:57:42.000 Box 281, Wildwood, Pennsylvania.

00:57:46.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:47.000 Okay, do you have a zip code?

00:57:49.000 No, I don't.

00:57:50.000 Okay.

00:57:52.000 You have a phone number?

00:57:53.000 You see, and I appreciate your call.

00:57:55.000 I'm sorry I can't help you here on air.

00:57:57.000 There's a whole bunch of sponsors.

00:57:59.000 My sponsors are my videos, Big Berkies, and Calvin Pure Silk, and Gold.

00:58:06.000 That's my sponsors.

00:58:06.000 I know the numbers for them.

00:58:08.000 I know all about those products.

00:58:09.000 I cannot speak For all of the other people and places and things that are advertised here.

00:58:15.000 And I'm sorry, sir, I don't have a list of the sponsors or their numbers for you here on me.

00:58:20.000 Thank you.

00:58:21.000 Alright, we've got an amazing guest joining us, Mike Papantonio, for the full hour next hour.

00:58:27.000 He's one of the most successful litigant lawyers in the United States, and he goes after the bad guys, and we appreciate his work.

00:58:37.000 He'll be joining us coming up in 60 seconds.

00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll free 877-376-45.

00:58:45.000 877-376-45.

00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 We rarely have guests on two weeks in a row, but we only had him with us for 30 minutes last week, and it was just an amazing interview.

00:59:22.000 He valiantly, successfully litigated against Bayer Pharmaceutical, the Nazi-connected A drug company that knowingly infected hundreds of thousands just in the western world alone with factor VIII filled with HIV and Hepatitis C and it just killed masses of people and he's exposed these monsters and then he started getting into election fraud. 0.79

00:59:41.000 I know he has his own radio talk show, Ring of Fire.

00:59:45.000 That airs Saturdays from 5 p.m.

00:59:47.000 to 7 p.m.

00:59:48.000 Eastern Standard Time.

00:59:50.000 And since I had him on, I've researched him and learned what a great person he is.

00:59:54.000 He's Mike Papantonio.

00:59:56.000 And he joins us with a full hour today.

00:59:58.000 And I said, Mike, so much is going on.

01:00:00.000 I was getting you on about election fraud.

01:00:02.000 We could talk ten hours about that.

01:00:03.000 But what about the war?

01:00:04.000 And he said it's a disaster.

01:00:05.000 So I wanted to get his take on that first.

01:00:08.000 But it's great to have you on with us, sir.

01:00:11.000 Thanks Alex.

01:00:12.000 You know, to start the discussion, I've got to tell you something.

01:00:14.000 People ought to read Terrorist Storm and they can better understand what is actually going on over there.

01:00:21.000 You know, I know it's hard to promo your own stuff, but I've got to promo it for you.

01:00:26.000 People need to read this stuff.

01:00:27.000 I mean, they need to find out that these issues that you're talking about are, you know, not to arm yourself with that information is a mistake.

01:00:35.000 Look, you nail it every time you take a look at something like Israel and Lebanon. 0.80

01:00:41.000 First of all, let me just tell you this.

01:00:42.000 To think that we're engaged in the type of escalation that we're involved with right now over two soldiers being kidnapped is absurd.

01:00:51.000 The truth is, you know, and I know you know this, Alex, but the invasion of Lebanon has been planned between Israel and the Bush administration as far back as June of this year.

01:01:02.000 You had the American Enterprise Institute meet there in Beaver Creek, Colorado, and Dick Cheney blessed it.

01:01:07.000 Dick Cheney said, we want to do this, we want you to go forward with this, and so this didn't just happen.

01:01:13.000 This is the October surprise.

01:01:15.000 They're developing and openly saying Iran-Syria.

01:01:18.000 You got it, my friend.

01:01:19.000 You know, look, When people hear you say that, or they hear me say that, you know what the reaction is?

01:01:26.000 They want to say it can't be true.

01:01:29.000 And I've got to tell you something.

01:01:31.000 For me to go on the air and say that this is true, and for you to have written and researched and put as much information as you have out there to try to enlighten people, you don't do that by taking risks.

01:01:45.000 The stuff we're talking about here is real.

01:01:48.000 Look, this whole thing about the clean break philosophy, the clean break philosophy is Chinese philosophy. 0.99

01:01:53.000 It started all the way back when you had a bunch of neocons meet and say that we need to change the balance of politics in the Middle East.

01:02:01.000 We need to trash all of the past Middle East Peace Accords. 0.97

01:02:05.000 We need to trash Oslo.

01:02:06.000 We need to do away with the way we've done business in the Middle East, which is to try to hold things together.

01:02:14.000 And what's happening here, the reason George Bush and this administration, really run by Cheney at this point, but the reason that they're unwilling to say, to demand a ceasefire.

01:02:24.000 Look, you got kids burning up in buildings and it's not over two kidnapped soldiers.

01:02:30.000 They're repeatedly bombing with triangulated focused attacks UN bases.

01:02:35.000 Exactly.

01:02:36.000 And for a president, don't you understand?

01:02:38.000 We've never had a president that has been unwilling to say it's time for a ceasefire until we can get to the table and talk about this.

01:02:46.000 And if people don't understand that this is expansionism into Iran and Syria, and you know who's paying for that, Alex?

01:02:53.000 It's not the Israelis. 1.00

01:02:54.000 The Israelis aren't paying for these bombs.

01:02:56.000 They're not paying for this military operation.

01:02:59.000 American taxpayers are doing it.

01:03:01.000 And we're getting drawn into this fight.

01:03:03.000 We're getting drawn in in such a way that they know that American troops at some point are going to have to be on the ground fighting this war.

01:03:11.000 Well, Israel's already asking for foreign trips.

01:03:13.000 And, I mean, this is so clear.

01:03:15.000 Bush told his biographer in 1999 he'd be a war president.

01:03:18.000 His ratings go up every time he does this.

01:03:20.000 He has to do this to smoke screen all of the other scandals and Enron and the corruption.

01:03:25.000 And when we get back, let's continue along this line and then get into the domestic front.

01:03:29.000 How they're turning America into a police state.

01:03:31.000 How they're trying to seize control of our electoral process because they know the people are going to throw them out on their ears.

01:03:38.000 At every level, You know, my question for Mike when we get back is, is George Bush trying to set up an effective dictatorship in the U.S.

01:03:47.000 and is this widening war really about creating a smoke screen to do that?

01:03:51.000 We'll be right back.

01:03:56.000 It's here, after a year in production and traveling to distant lands.

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01:04:10.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

01:04:18.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

01:04:29.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

01:04:33.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

01:04:36.000 Terror Storm is a film that everyone who wants to be truly informed must see.

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01:05:51.000 Come on, Bill.

01:05:55.000 Two weeks ago you were riding a bicycle, and today you're showing up in your new car and telling me you're buying a house.

01:06:00.000 What did you do, rob Bill Gates?

01:06:02.000 No, John, I didn't rob Bill Gates.

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01:06:34.000 Thanks, Bill.

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01:06:48.000 deal big brother Mainstream media.

01:07:00.000 Government cover-ups.

01:07:02.000 You want answers?

01:07:04.000 Well, so does he.

01:07:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:16.000 We had him on with us last week for a half hour.

01:07:18.000 He's with us for the full hour today.

01:07:19.000 We'll take calls in the second half hour.

01:07:21.000 It's Michael Papantonio.

01:07:23.000 And Mike Papantonio is an amazing individual.

01:07:26.000 I first saw him on national television years ago, and then I saw him up there exposing Bayer, openly murdering tens of thousands of people, putting AIDS virus and hepatitis C in the blood supply, knowingly, just pure wickedness.

01:07:39.000 And then I began to research a lot of the other cases he's been involved in.

01:07:42.000 He's done so much good for our society.

01:07:45.000 When the government and the Congress have been bought off by these people, he's punished them.

01:07:49.000 So I really admire him.

01:07:50.000 And he also has a syndicated radio program on Air America and is on their board of directors, one of the principals there.

01:07:56.000 And we appreciate the direction he's taken it in.

01:07:58.000 They've been getting more and more hardcore, exposing what's happening.

01:08:01.000 People have been taking notice.

01:08:03.000 Because we're in very dark times for stations that just joined us.

01:08:07.000 We were talking about, is Bush trying to set up a dictatorship?

01:08:10.000 And even mainstream headlines are now saying this.

01:08:13.000 The American Bar Association is saying he's trying to declare dictatorial powers with these signing statements.

01:08:19.000 Here's a clip from Bush during the campaign back in 2000 where he told them it'd be easier if this was a dictatorship.

01:08:27.000 Play it.

01:08:28.000 But that's okay.

01:08:29.000 If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier.

01:08:32.000 Thank you.

01:08:34.000 Just so long as I'm the dictator.

01:08:37.000 And the neocons have said they want another war, they want to attack Iran and Syria.

01:08:41.000 Sixty-plus countries on the neocon hit list.

01:08:44.000 They need a war coming up in this election.

01:08:46.000 This is their October surprise.

01:08:48.000 They're openly talking about going into Syria, into Iran.

01:08:52.000 They've been twisting the words of the Iranian president, who I'm no fan of, by the way, but really hyping that.

01:08:57.000 I went and looked it up.

01:08:59.000 There are routine captures of Israeli soldiers.

01:09:02.000 There are routine captures on the other side.

01:09:05.000 They hyped this out of control.

01:09:07.000 Now they're blowing up ambulances, U.N.

01:09:10.000 bases. 0.90

01:09:11.000 They're killing children.

01:09:12.000 The numbers are much higher than we've been told.

01:09:14.000 Israelis are dying. 1.00

01:09:16.000 They're escalating all of this so George Bush can be our wartime president.

01:09:21.000 And now we're not hearing about Iraq, which they promised we'd be out of in six months. 0.99

01:09:25.000 Because it's been put on the back burner publicly, but it's falling apart worse than ever.

01:09:30.000 Mike Papantonio, give us your expertise, your analysis of where you see this is going, and answer that question.

01:09:37.000 With the evidence, can we prove that George Bush is really trying to make himself a dictator?

01:09:42.000 Well, I mean, if you follow this story, I know you followed this story before mainstream media, as you usually do.

01:09:49.000 You catch these stories way ahead of time.

01:09:51.000 You know, the 10,000 foot explanation of what you were talking about with the signing statement is that anytime Congress sends a new legislative bill to be signed by the President, the President has reserved a right to revise the bill or interpret the meaning of the bill in a way that suits his prejudice, whatever it might be.

01:10:07.000 In fact, he can disregard the intent of the bill on issues like national security or constitutional grounds.

01:10:13.000 It's de facto legislating right there.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, you do away with two arms of the government.

01:10:17.000 You do away with the judiciary.

01:10:18.000 You do away with Congress.

01:10:19.000 Here's the kicker.

01:10:20.000 Here's what most people don't understand.

01:10:23.000 This is a president that in five and a half years has done this 800 times, where he has changed the intent of a bill.

01:10:32.000 Now, to put that in perspective, Alex, if you take 212 years of presidents, if you take 43, 212 years of American democracy, 43 separate presidents.

01:10:43.000 If you take all of that together, it's only been done 600 times in 212 years.

01:10:48.000 This guy has done it 800 times in five and a half years.

01:10:53.000 What is it that he's signing?

01:10:55.000 That ties into what we started off talking about.

01:10:57.000 When you see him do one of these presidential signing statements, it always involves things that he typically is trying to avoid personal accountability Well, in the past, a signing statement was just the President's opinion of the bill.

01:11:10.000 It had no legislative or judicial or even executive authority.

01:11:15.000 Look at this.

01:11:16.000 This is what Lou Dobbs said today.

01:11:17.000 Dobbs, why is the President ignoring our laws?

01:11:22.000 And then it just goes on.

01:11:23.000 With upraised right and left hand upon the Bible, each of our presidents, from George W. Bush to George Washington, has solemnly sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

01:11:34.000 The American Bar Association claims President Bush has violated the oath by issuing hundreds of signing statements to disregard selected provisions of the laws that Congress passed and he signed.

01:11:44.000 Well, four months ago, Bush signed a law that Congress hadn't even passed!

01:11:50.000 That's exactly right.

01:11:51.000 But if you look at what he signs, Alex, it always involves things like, it always somehow ties back to his personal accountability.

01:12:00.000 Protecting himself from personal accountability.

01:12:02.000 It's things like the torture issue.

01:12:05.000 It's eavesdropping on American citizens.

01:12:07.000 Preventing the media from having access to documents about, you know, his Iraqi war lives, or preventing access to documents that expose his sweetheart deals with the oil or energy industry.

01:12:18.000 I mean, so it's always self-serving.

01:12:20.000 A guy doesn't sign 800 of these signing statements that virtually changes the entire intent of the law.

01:12:28.000 Think about this, Alex.

01:12:29.000 When he signs that, when he comes up with a presidential signing statement, what he's saying to the federal government that's supposed to enforce these various bills, he's saying, you don't really have to do that.

01:12:41.000 All you have to do is read what I have to say about it, and then you have to follow what I have to say about it.

01:12:47.000 George Orwell wrote a great book, I know you've read it, it's called The Animal Farm.

01:12:51.000 Animal Farm talks about the way that in small increments we lose our freedoms.

01:12:57.000 Very small increments.

01:12:59.000 We almost don't understand it.

01:13:00.000 And in that book he talks about this very type of thing.

01:13:03.000 This is a way that a person gains control of power.

01:13:07.000 All you have to do is look at the empirical.

01:13:09.000 This isn't something we're just making up.

01:13:12.000 People can go to the Washington Post, they can go to the New York Times, they can go to any major news outlet and see that this guy has signed 800 of these in five and a half years.

01:13:21.000 Well, here's another example.

01:13:22.000 He signed papers bringing us into the American Union last year with Fox and Martin of Canada.

01:13:29.000 And then when the major media calls him and asks for the documents, they say you have no right to them.

01:13:34.000 Meanwhile, Texas businesses have now been issued new codes saying we're in an American Union.

01:13:39.000 So, I mean, he's doing things that we've never seen, you know, the likes of in any free society.

01:13:45.000 And then the domestic police state that they're setting up.

01:13:49.000 And Tommy Franks, who we then learned was secretly on the PR payroll of Bush when he was buying $1.6 billion.

01:13:56.000 In fake news, that's a lot of fake news, saying one more attack, we go into martial law.

01:14:02.000 Are you concerned if there's another attack staged, or some other attack carried out in this country, that George Bush may drop the hammer and bring us into full-bore police state?

01:14:12.000 I can tell you this, I think if you look at what's happening, and all of this ties together, ties together anybody paying attention, if you look at what we just talked about, the signing statements,

01:14:21.000 When we try to find out, at the end of the day, when we try to find out what really happened, how closely did Dick Cheney make the decisions to involve this country, to directly involve this country, ultimately it's going to be American lives over there, American soldiers, it's going to be our, we're already spending the money to pay for this war, it's going to be taxpayers money, but when we try to find out What really happened?

01:14:44.000 He's going to use the signing statement as some protective mechanism to where we can't get to that.

01:14:49.000 But we know this.

01:14:50.000 We know this.

01:14:51.000 We know that this is the first step.

01:14:54.000 We know it because they've talked about it for a decade.

01:14:56.000 This is the first step to bring into place this clean break policy where we totally trash all of the Middle East peace accords Including the Oslo Agreement.

01:15:09.000 We trash all of that so we can come to the aid of Israel. 0.98

01:15:15.000 It doesn't have anything to do with Israel.

01:15:17.000 All Israel is is the front guy. 0.97

01:15:19.000 We're using Israel as the thug here. 1.00

01:15:21.000 Israel is the thug that's having to do the dirty work. 1.00

01:15:24.000 That Americans will not allow this president to do.

01:15:27.000 We've lost 2,600 American soldiers in this war.

01:15:31.000 We spent $400 billion in Iraq.

01:15:33.000 Do you think that he's going to be able to go to the American public and say, now it's time to go into Syria?

01:15:39.000 Now it's time to go into Iran?

01:15:40.000 You know what the problem here is, Alex?

01:15:42.000 This ain't just about southern Lebanon.

01:15:45.000 Because Russia and China have a direct They're joined at the hip with Syria and Iran. 0.87

01:15:52.000 We'll talk about that more in just a moment, but getting back to Lebanon for just a second before we talk about the treaties that these other countries have with these defense treaties they have with China and Russia, both Iran and of course Syria.

01:16:06.000 Bush gives Iran an ultimatum a month ago.

01:16:10.000 He tells them, by late July, if you don't do what I say, we're going to start moving against you.

01:16:14.000 And then right on cue, Israel takes regular occurrences, hypes it up, starts invading. 0.98

01:16:19.000 Now they're talking about going all the way into Syria, members of the Knesset.

01:16:23.000 They're hyping this thing.

01:16:25.000 So now, please walk us into what you think will happen.

01:16:31.000 How do you see this unfolding?

01:16:32.000 How will they get into Iran?

01:16:34.000 How will they get into Syria?

01:16:35.000 And what do you think China and Russia will do?

01:16:37.000 Here's where I see it going.

01:16:38.000 Defeating Hezbollah is a major blow to Iran.

01:16:41.000 You understand that?

01:16:42.000 Because Hezbollah and Iran may as well be talking about the same thing. 0.87

01:16:46.000 If Bush can interfere and take out Hezbollah, it's going to be easier for Bush then to sell a war against Iran. 0.63

01:16:54.000 He can't sell it to the American people right now.

01:16:56.000 If Hezbollah begins attacking U.S. 0.82

01:16:58.000 soldiers on the ground in southern Lebanon, he can sell the war on grounds that they've attacked us first.

01:17:05.000 Either way, he can't lose.

01:17:07.000 And by securing that area, he can claim that that flank has been secured?

01:17:11.000 Exactly!

01:17:12.000 And he's going to be able to say, he's going to be able to declare victory, and now we're going to be more comfortable with the victory.

01:17:18.000 So he's actually going to talk people into going after Syria and going after Iran.

01:17:23.000 But you know what?

01:17:24.000 He's not going to be the front voice up there.

01:17:26.000 Dick Cheney saw to that all the way back in June when he met with the American Enterprise Institute out in Beaver Creek, Colorado.

01:17:33.000 This isn't stuff we're making up.

01:17:34.000 Go on the internet if you don't believe us.

01:17:36.000 Now they've openly said they're going to stage this and do all of this.

01:17:40.000 Talk about body language.

01:17:41.000 Everybody at these meetings there in Beirut and other areas with Connellisa Rice have solemn, long, ashen faces.

01:17:49.000 And Rice looks like she's Ronald McDonald with these ear-to-ear smirks. 0.99

01:17:54.000 It's terrifying!

01:17:56.000 She looks like she's on vacation, doesn't she?

01:17:58.000 I mean, if you really look at her... She looks like she just won the lottery. 0.53

01:18:00.000 Yeah, like she's down... you know, she loves shoes. 1.00

01:18:03.000 I don't know if you know that, Alex, but she loves to shop at Gucci.

01:18:06.000 Maybe she's over there shopping, I don't know, but if I'm looking... Doesn't she spend like 20 grand at a pop or something?

01:18:10.000 Yeah, if I'm looking at her right now, I gotta tell you this...

01:18:14.000 I don't have a sense of confidence that she's doing what we should do to protect our children.

01:18:19.000 This is not just about us.

01:18:21.000 If somebody's looking at the escalation of what's taking place in Lebanon, they're not thinking about their children.

01:18:28.000 Well, I mean, why is William Crystal on TV smiling like he just won the lottery?

01:18:32.000 Because they have won.

01:18:33.000 This is something they've planned for years, and now it's all coming to a head.

01:18:37.000 You know, it's funny.

01:18:39.000 They kept smiling right after 9-11 too, Mike.

01:18:41.000 Remember?

01:18:43.000 Why are they smiling?

01:18:44.000 Are we the only people to see them smiling?

01:18:46.000 I don't think so.

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01:23:03.000 Of course, he staged terror attacks on his own military installations at Glywoods to start that war.

01:23:08.000 That's how he sold the Germans. 0.96

01:23:11.000 And I hate to compare Israel to the Nazis, but this is bringing us into a similar mass world conflict.

01:23:18.000 That just gets worse and worse.

01:23:19.000 You know, looking at this, Mike, it's like a Ponzi scheme.

01:23:22.000 They've got to get us deeper and deeper and deeper into it because they're already in so much trouble.

01:23:27.000 They're so unpopular with the American people that they've got to get us... In fact, we got a Republican strategy memo six months ago saying, we confirmed it was real, barring a huge terror attack or a huge new war.

01:23:38.000 Their goose is cooked.

01:23:39.000 The Democrats are going to win.

01:23:40.000 Bush is going to be impeached.

01:23:42.000 Hallelujah!

01:23:43.000 I mean, I'm not even happy with the Democrats either, but we need to get Bush out of there because he's gone further and done worse things than anybody I've ever studied.

01:23:50.000 And I'm quite a history of U.S.

01:23:52.000 history going back to colonial times.

01:23:54.000 I mean, I feel like I'm sitting here watching a train wreck that is about to happen.

01:23:58.000 We've already seen a bunch of other train wrecks.

01:24:00.000 This one's a thousand times bigger.

01:24:01.000 Do you have that same feeling of just horror?

01:24:04.000 How do we stop this?

01:24:05.000 How do we stop this?

01:24:06.000 Well, unfortunately, what we're seeing is kind of the end of the train right now.

01:24:11.000 In 1996, you had the project for a new American century that put together this whole plan.

01:24:16.000 The plan had three parts to it.

01:24:18.000 First of all, expand Israel's power, take out Iraq, and really subdue the rest of the Middle East in one way or another. 0.99

01:24:26.000 And that involved Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia.

01:24:30.000 Go right down the list.

01:24:33.000 So the point is this.

01:24:34.000 We're seeing all of this that was dreamed up when they had this meeting that took place for the Project for a New American Century.

01:24:41.000 You had Paul Wolfowitz there, Dick Cheney there, Don Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush right here from Florida, Dan Quayle, Steve Forbes, William Bennett.

01:24:49.000 You had all of these neocon freaks. 0.99

01:24:52.000 And I've got to tell you something.

01:24:53.000 You know, I'm not so sold that Democrats can handle this problem anyway.

01:24:58.000 The Democrats have lost their sense of fight.

01:25:01.000 It's going to take more than Democrat infrastructure to change any of this.

01:25:05.000 So don't count on the Democrats to be able to change this.

01:25:07.000 Well, look at Hillary. 1.00

01:25:08.000 She's a hawk. 0.98

01:25:09.000 Well, exactly!

01:25:10.000 I mean, you know, if you take a look at the... My only point is, we've got to get a separation of powers again, and even Ron Paul on my show said that that would be, he's a Republican, it would be good for the country, for Bush to lose control of the Congress, because right now, he's got a blank check.

01:25:29.000 But you're saying, or am I getting from this, you're saying, Mike, that the Democrats are so bought off that even if they win, they may still just go along?

01:25:36.000 Let me give you a little history.

01:25:38.000 And when we had Bill Clinton as President, for two years he had a Democratic Congress.

01:25:42.000 Remember that?

01:25:43.000 During that time, had he done what he should have done, and he should have gone after these war hawks that I just read, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, Jeb Bush.

01:25:54.000 Had he gone after these war hawks then, over the Iran-Contra issue, there was plenty of information that would have put all these guys in jail.

01:26:05.000 Had he done what he should have done, we wouldn't be going through what we're going through right now.

01:26:09.000 The Democrats have lost their stomach for a fight.

01:26:13.000 You can't show up at a gunfight with a knife.

01:26:16.000 They have to understand that if Bush, if we do get Congress back, it has to be immediate.

01:26:22.000 There has to be an impeachment process starting, there have to be investigations that start, and that's the only way we're going to turn it around.

01:26:29.000 Let me bring up this facet to you and then we'll talk about more solutions after the break and then get a little bit into election fraud and some calls.

01:26:35.000 This is what I see.

01:26:36.000 They plan to balkanize Iraq, break it in three or four parts. 0.98

01:26:39.000 That's their own official plan.

01:26:40.000 Balkanize the rest of the region, kind of with pinpoint strikes on infrastructure. 0.83

01:26:44.000 That's the Israeli Plan 83 as well. 0.55

01:26:46.000 But here's the problem.

01:26:47.000 We're about to get kicked out of Iraq.

01:26:49.000 It's imploding.

01:26:50.000 They're already in armored citadels.

01:26:51.000 They're already in a siege mentality.

01:26:53.000 It's going even worse than the neocons planned for it to with controlled chaos.

01:26:58.000 They're talking about going into Iran and Syria, barring a draft.

01:27:01.000 They can't do that.

01:27:02.000 And so it looks like they're trying to escalate us into something really bad, so they can basically jack things up.

01:27:09.000 Exactly.

01:27:09.000 And you know what?

01:27:10.000 They're using Israel. 0.99

01:27:11.000 Look, I gotta tell you something.

01:27:12.000 Israel's one of the best allies we've ever had.

01:27:14.000 And you know what?

01:27:15.000 You know what I'd love to say to Israel right now?

01:27:18.000 Don't buy into this neocon crazy talk.

01:27:22.000 Don't buy into it.

01:27:23.000 What you're going to do is destabilize that area to where your people will never have rest. 0.97

01:27:28.000 They're great allies, but they're getting bad leadership. 0.92

01:27:32.000 There's nobody telling them that the moves that they're making are not just destabilizing the Middle East, they're destabilizing the entire damn world. 0.91

01:27:40.000 Look, we give Israel I think $140 billion.

01:27:45.000 We spend about $3 billion in direct assistance to Israel every single year.

01:27:49.000 Year in, year out.

01:27:50.000 And you know what?

01:27:50.000 If they will stand guard for us over there, that's great.

01:27:53.000 We need them.

01:27:55.000 But we can't have them escalate the way that these neocons want them to escalate.

01:27:59.000 It's causing harm to Israel. 0.99

01:28:02.000 And you know what?

01:28:04.000 At the level of the average person in Israel right now, they're starting to understand that.

01:28:09.000 Well, I'm just worried about a helpful terrorist attack, a helpful catalyzing event, as the neocon documents say, occurring here in the U.S., because now they're saying, ooh, Hezbollah may attack us, Hamas may attack us domestically, and then we've got to go to World War III.

01:28:25.000 I want to get your take on that statement when we get back, sir, and then we'll spend a little bit of time, what we originally got you on for, how the very same neocons are moving to block our electoral voting process in the United States.

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01:32:13.000 Mike Papantonio is our guest as a syndicated program on Air America, Ring of Fire with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

01:32:22.000 Wow!

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01:32:35.000 Because of the limits of time, please talk about election fraud, whether you think there's evidence of it or to the contrary.

01:32:42.000 Obviously, there's so much evidence it's ridiculous.

01:32:44.000 Or on the subject of what's happening in the Middle East and the neocons and What Newt Gingrich and the rest of them are happily calling World War III.

01:32:54.000 Sitting here and watching this, throughout history, I don't read a lot of science fiction or fiction.

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01:33:05.000 Well, you know the old cliche, truth is stranger than fiction.

01:33:08.000 And I look at governments, I look at empires, I look at societies, And this is like the decline of the Roman Empire.

01:33:14.000 Our government, the people controlling it, the corporate interests, the kleptomaniacs that run our society, are on total power trips.

01:33:22.000 They're total warmongers.

01:33:24.000 None of them have served in the military or been in combat.

01:33:27.000 And I remember a New York Times article talking about Richard Perle, when he was still in the Defense Department, walking up at a big Georgetown party and bragging to Young, good-looking women that he's going to kill a bunch of North Koreans and do they know how powerful he is?

01:33:42.000 And there were quotes in there. 0.94

01:33:43.000 I mean, this is this is sophomoric mental illness in policy makers. 0.52

01:33:49.000 And so, Mike, I mean, I am scared of these people. 0.69

01:33:52.000 And they're giggling, they're snickering, they're smiling.

01:33:56.000 They can't contain themselves.

01:33:57.000 You know why?

01:33:58.000 Because they've never had to pick up an M16 and fight for their lives.

01:34:02.000 They've never had an AK-47 Pointed their way.

01:34:05.000 They've never been there when a smart bomb went off and killed women and children around them or their buddies in a uniform. 0.99

01:34:11.000 They are true war sissies. 0.99

01:34:14.000 If you look at the people behind all of this, they're all war sissies. 1.00

01:34:18.000 Dick Cheney, Cheney got eight deferments simply because he chose not to go. 0.91

01:34:22.000 George Bush, who in the hell knows where George Bush was?

01:34:25.000 Karl Rove, the architect behind all this, nobody knows where Karl Rove was.

01:34:31.000 Go down the list of everybody who thinks war is a great and grand thing.

01:34:35.000 It's great and grand until it's their child that has to be sent over there to a war based on absolute, utter lies. 0.91

01:34:43.000 It's fine with them to escalate in the Middle East until it's their children who have to be vaporized with a bomb. 0.97

01:34:52.000 But you won't see them picking up a gun, Alex.

01:34:55.000 You won't see them having any kind of history of actually serving this country.

01:34:59.000 It's always good for somebody else's children.

01:35:01.000 It's always good for somebody else.

01:35:03.000 This thing in the Middle East is going to continue to escalate.

01:35:06.000 And I've got to tell you, soccer moms out there that thought that George Bush was a safe bet for them in 2004, they're reeling right now.

01:35:13.000 Well, that brings me to my next point that I mentioned earlier, but I want to elaborate on it mathematically.

01:35:18.000 Militarily.

01:35:19.000 The fact is, without a massive million-plus person draft and a huge war build-up, we cannot attack Iran and Syria and then occupy them. 0.53

01:35:31.000 And the military has told... I mean, even Enron scammers Like Secretary White, who was an inside buddy of these guys, he told them, look, 500,000 troops, and they said, you need to resign.

01:35:42.000 I mean, they're not even listening to their own generals.

01:35:45.000 I mean, look at how many generals have gone public.

01:35:47.000 Six generals have said that Iraq is a disaster, that they told this administration not to do it, we were undermanned, we should not be there.

01:35:56.000 And you know what?

01:35:56.000 You know what's interesting right now, Alex?

01:35:58.000 Some new generals are saying that what's happening in Lebanon right now is so explosive that if it gets out of control, America is in peril.

01:36:08.000 Let me bring this up to you.

01:36:10.000 A separate subject, but the pretext for all of this.

01:36:13.000 9-11, I had the former head historian for the Marine Corps on, a full colonel, who of course is also Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, saying the 9-11 story doesn't hunt, and he's very conservative, that the evidence points towards the government being involved, supporting it, letting it happen.

01:36:32.000 There's that whole spectrum of debate.

01:36:35.000 We have Morgan Reynolds, head economist, Department of Labor, for this Bush.

01:36:40.000 We have members of the British Parliament, members of Blair's Cabinet, we have physicists, we have scientists, we have MI5 agents, we have the former top CIA advisor to George Bush Sr.

01:36:51.000 and Ronald Reagan saying that the official story is a complete fraud.

01:36:55.000 All of these people are going public about 9-11.

01:36:57.000 9-11 has been the pretext to build all of this. 0.80

01:37:01.000 Give us your take on how they're using 9-11.

01:37:04.000 Well, I tell you what, I'm way behind the 9-11 stories that you're talking about there, other than the fact that what we're seeing happening in southern Lebanon right now, it's not happening by coincidence.

01:37:17.000 The timing is everything. 0.90

01:37:18.000 If you look at George Bush prior to 9-11, he was regarded as a total dolt.

01:37:25.000 The guy was in office, what, a year? 0.91

01:37:28.000 We had the stock market crash.

01:37:30.000 He was sinking!

01:37:31.000 He was absolutely sinking.

01:37:32.000 Everything was failing on the guy.

01:37:34.000 So all of a sudden, 9-11 changes all that.

01:37:36.000 Well, this, in a sense, is kind of their new chance at a 9-11.

01:37:40.000 It is to escalate the war to the point where Americans are so fearful that they say, we can't change horses in the middle of the spring.

01:37:47.000 I mean, why would Hezbollah or Hamas carry out bombings in the U.S.

01:37:50.000 as the neocons are saying they're sure to do, knowing that would bring in a military force to defeat them?

01:37:55.000 No, they won't do that.

01:37:57.000 But it's good front page stuff.

01:37:57.000 They won't do that.

01:38:00.000 And unfortunately, the mass media buys it.

01:38:02.000 The fear monger?

01:38:03.000 Yeah, the mass media buys it.

01:38:04.000 Fox News will cover this until you're sick.

01:38:07.000 And everything that they get at, everything on Fox News, all those little trailers they have underneath the pictures, that all comes directly from the White House, man.

01:38:15.000 Oh, that's admitted, yeah.

01:38:16.000 You know, Tony Snow is not there by mistake.

01:38:19.000 Tony Snow's there because he's the guy that engineered all that.

01:38:22.000 So, when you watch Fox News, understand one thing is at work. 0.93

01:38:26.000 It is nothing more than an arm of this administration, an arm that wants to get this damn country involved in World War II.

01:38:33.000 Well, out of all the crimes they've committed, Mike, one of the biggest is, again, the Congressional Budget Office, General Accounting Office, said this is illegal. 0.56

01:38:41.000 Two years ago, in the last year, they spent another $1.6 billion on fake news.

01:38:46.000 How can you believe anything they say when they're admittedly... I mean, Armstrong Williams is the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg.

01:38:53.000 $245,000 to go out and act like he was an independent person promoting Bush's programs.

01:38:59.000 But you know what?

01:39:00.000 There's some good news here.

01:39:01.000 The good news is people are actually turning to alternative media.

01:39:05.000 60% of the American public, this is what they believe right now, 60% of the American public believe that the mass media doesn't have the ability to correctly give us the news because they're being stopped by government and corporations.

01:39:19.000 And so what does Bush do?

01:39:20.000 He moves in with taxes for the internet, regulations, internet coup.

01:39:25.000 Exactly.

01:39:26.000 Close off what we call citizens' media.

01:39:28.000 Citizens' media is rising up to fill that big void.

01:39:31.000 It's the market taking care of itself.

01:39:33.000 Well, I'm not tooting my own horn, but if you go do web traffic analysis of PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com, just my little sites run by one person apiece, PrisonPlanet.com is as big as the Dallas Morning News now.

01:39:46.000 Of course!

01:39:47.000 People are looking for the real news right now, Alex, and that's part of this story.

01:39:51.000 That's part of the Southern Lebanon story right now.

01:39:54.000 They're trying to find out what's really happening.

01:39:56.000 And you have people like you, you've got people like Wayne Madsen out there that are reporting, Greg Pallas, all these people that are reporting what's really happening, and they're getting it.

01:40:04.000 They understand that this whole thing in Lebanon, it was planned back in June when the Israelis met with Dick Cheney, and Dick Cheney gave it his blessings.

01:40:14.000 Why are the neocons... I don't want to talk about election fraud, sir.

01:40:18.000 I've seen arrogance in government.

01:40:21.000 That's part of the course.

01:40:21.000 It's part of that animal.

01:40:25.000 But just the insane arrogance where their own documents are public, all their crimes are public, and they just giggle and laugh and just expand the fraud.

01:40:35.000 Well, right now they know they have a Supreme Court in their pocket.

01:40:39.000 They know they have Congress in their pocket, a Senate in their pocket.

01:40:42.000 They have virtually the media in their pocket.

01:40:45.000 They have plenty to laugh about because what's happened is the American public has allowed this to happen and now we're waking up and we're understanding what in the hell do we do now? 0.98

01:40:54.000 They are arrogant.

01:40:55.000 If you don't think that's a look of arrogance on Condi Rice's If you don't think that's a look of arrogance, then you just don't know people. 0.96

01:41:02.000 Bush is treating this as a big frat party.

01:41:03.000 That's his mentality.

01:41:04.000 look of arrogance, then you just don't know people.

01:41:06.000 And fortunately, Richard, I mean, same thing with Richard Pearl, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, you know, Bush is treating like this is a big frat party.

01:41:16.000 That's his mentality.

01:41:17.000 This is a big frat party.

01:41:19.000 So your observation is exactly my observation.

01:41:22.000 Well, now that you bring him up, you know, I'm a Texan, you're a Southerner, and I'm not knocking people in Connecticut or in Maine, but literally, I've been out to his ranch.

01:41:31.000 It is a Hollywood set.

01:41:32.000 He's scared of horses.

01:41:33.000 And, you know, somebody's done a lot of cowboy work back in high school.

01:41:36.000 It's insulting. 1.00

01:41:38.000 I'm just tired of people saying, oh, look at Texas, you know, a village somewhere in Texas is missing an idiot. 1.00

01:41:44.000 He is not ours. 1.00

01:41:45.000 He does not come from the South or Texas. - Yes.

01:41:49.000 You're absolutely right.

01:41:50.000 Of course, you know, when the Dixie Chicks tried to say that, the Dixie Chicks, if you really talked to them about what they meant when they attacked him, they said, look, he's an embarrassment to Texas.

01:41:59.000 We're probably going to have them on the show soon.

01:42:01.000 They're big fans.

01:42:02.000 Oh, great, great.

01:42:03.000 You know, they're just such heroes.

01:42:04.000 They are absolute heroes.

01:42:06.000 Well you notice what happened too, they quit playing their CDs, their songs, and in fact I know their dad, and in the next year their sales roughly doubled.

01:42:15.000 So I guess in a way it's kind of good to be blacklisted.

01:42:18.000 Oh man, we promote them like crazy.

01:42:20.000 Matter of fact, one show we did we had all of their music.

01:42:23.000 Listen Alex, can you imagine what courage that took?

01:42:27.000 Can you imagine what kind of courage it took to make that stand?

01:42:30.000 That was early on.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, you and I do this, I mean, you know, we do this every day, but we're not out there trying to sell records.

01:42:37.000 These people, their livelihood depended on it, and they went after this guy when they should have.

01:42:42.000 Let me bring, exactly, let me bring something else into this.

01:42:45.000 You know, when they should have done, according to conventional wisdom, what Britney Spears doing, said, just don't question Bush, do whatever he says.

01:42:52.000 Remember that? 1.00

01:42:52.000 What an idiot. 1.00

01:42:53.000 What an idiot. 1.00

01:42:53.000 But shifting gears yet again, if you're going to be arrogant, if you're going to set up an effective dictatorship, if you're going to circumvent people's liberties and the Constitution, you've got to somehow short-circuit the vote. 1.00

01:43:07.000 And the problem with the election fraud is there's too much evidence.

01:43:10.000 I mean, we've had their own employees go public and say it's a fraud.

01:43:13.000 We've caught them stealing elections.

01:43:14.000 We've had the heads of the companies in Ohio saying they're going to give the election to Bush.

01:43:19.000 Then they do it!

01:43:21.000 Still, some people in America, I think, can't believe the horror of the fact, just like you can't believe that Bayer puts AIDS in drugs on purpose, they just can't believe that our elections are being stolen.

01:43:33.000 Can you speak to that and we'll take a few calls.

01:43:35.000 Yeah, Bobby Kennedy and I had to actually file a lawsuit a couple of weeks ago because the Democratic leadership didn't have enough guts to do it.

01:43:41.000 The mainstream media is a story that they simply don't understand.

01:43:45.000 They really don't understand the story.

01:43:47.000 But if you believe that the U.S.

01:43:49.000 has a system of legitimate voting that's any way superior to third world countries or banana republics, then you haven't followed these voting scandals since Bush was appointed president.

01:43:59.000 I mean, quick, the 10,000 foot Ohio.

01:44:03.000 80,000 times votes were registered for John Kerry, but more than 80,000 times those same machines mystically registered those same votes for Bush.

01:44:12.000 One jurisdiction in Ohio where there are only 800 registered voters had 4,000 Bush voters, had 4,000 registered for George Bush.

01:44:21.000 And it's not just Republicans.

01:44:23.000 It's going on in districts where you have something as simple as a developer who wants to have three new county commissioners put on because he wants a new development to come through.

01:44:32.000 So it's very local too.

01:44:34.000 Well how does Senator Hagel How is he the majority owner on the company where all the votes are cast in Nebraska, and then he is elected by his own machines when he was 15 points behind in his first election?

01:44:48.000 Exactly.

01:44:49.000 E-S-N-F. 1.00

01:44:50.000 And then he lied about it.

01:44:51.000 He went to Congress, raised his right hand, and lied to Congress about the fact he told them he didn't even have ownership in the company.

01:45:00.000 This is a guy in charge of our politics in Washington these days.

01:45:03.000 Or how about O'Dell?

01:45:04.000 How about Wally O'Dell?

01:45:06.000 Wally O'Dell with Diebold, with Diebold, he comes out and he says, look, I've got to do everything I can to make sure that George Bush wins as president.

01:45:16.000 And you know what?

01:45:17.000 In Ohio, that's exactly what he did.

01:45:21.000 This is not a partisan issue, Alex.

01:45:23.000 This is not a partisan issue.

01:45:25.000 Both parties are doing this.

01:45:26.000 And the truth is, it's destroying democracy.

01:45:30.000 We can't have democracy if people someday are going to have to show up at polling booths and have people with M16s standing there. 1.00

01:45:38.000 Here's a $64 million question.

01:45:41.000 How do we remove these Diebold and Sequoia and other systems that have been absolutely certified to be scams?

01:45:51.000 Well, the only way to do it is you have to take their money away.

01:45:53.000 You have to do what Bobby and I are trying to do.

01:45:56.000 What we learned in the tobacco litigation is the only thing that these people react to is to take their money away.

01:46:02.000 And the only way to do that is to file, we're filing key TAM cases, whistleblower cases all over the country and one by one we're going to go after them and I'm going to be sitting, I got to tell you something, I will be sitting across the table taking these people's depositions.

01:46:16.000 They're going to have to answer questions that they never thought they'd have to answer because they knew we had a Republican Congress that wouldn't allow us to ask And that's your big cases coming up.

01:46:25.000 We got a bunch of them coming up.

01:46:26.000 But what we're having to do is we're actually having to file these.

01:46:29.000 So the key is get the depositions, drag these CEOs in, have the witnesses, get the documents, and sync them one by one.

01:46:35.000 Exactly what we did on tobacco.

01:46:37.000 Exactly what I do on every pharmaceutical case I handle.

01:46:40.000 That's the methodology.

01:46:41.000 It's the only thing that these people react to.

01:46:44.000 Well, I want to say this.

01:46:45.000 Lawyers are a symptom of the society we're in.

01:46:48.000 I believe, and I said this on air, that I don't want any, quote, reform of the law system because all of these suits, that is in response to the out-of-control corruption of these corporations.

01:47:00.000 Now, certainly, there are bad lawyers and bad cases and bad people out there, and there are frivolous lawsuits.

01:47:07.000 I want to be able to go out and get a good lawyer who's a friend of mine to defend me when a bad lawyer and a bad litigant comes after me.

01:47:14.000 So when you hear these calls out there to restrict trial lawyers, that is to restrict one of the few remedies we've got left.

01:47:23.000 Yeah, let me just tell you something.

01:47:24.000 We're out of remedies on this voting machine.

01:47:27.000 If Bobby and I fail on this litigation, we'll never know what happened.

01:47:33.000 It's unbelievable.

01:47:34.000 It's just unbelievable.

01:47:35.000 Let's talk to BL in Texas.

01:47:37.000 BL, thanks for holding your on the air with our guest.

01:47:39.000 Go ahead.

01:47:40.000 Alex.

01:47:41.000 Yes.

01:47:43.000 Since I've gotten back from the LA Symposium, I've given away over 50 of your Terror Storm videos.

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01:48:06.000 Thank you.

01:48:07.000 Well, I've got 300 blank DVDs here waiting to burn.

01:48:11.000 But let me preface my question on vote fraud by saying that I want to thank both of you for your good works.

01:48:21.000 But given that three of the four branches of government have been unlawful since before the War for States' Rights, before the 14th Amendment, The state legislatures no longer elect the senators and somewhere between the third and fifth editions of Black's Law, the United States of America became the United States.

01:48:43.000 Why should we care about vote fraud for an unlawful government?

01:48:47.000 There's been a lot of corruption, a lot of problems, a slow erosion of liberties, and then fights to try to get it back, and two steps forward, three steps back.

01:48:47.000 Well, let me just say this.

01:48:55.000 But now we're reaching, you know, the flashpoint, the apex, the total takeover.

01:49:02.000 And so you're right, there's all these other problems, but we've got to fix this one right now.

01:49:06.000 This is the big enchilada, the big tomato.

01:49:08.000 Comments, Mike?

01:49:09.000 Yeah, I mean, America is, our democracy is the envy of the world.

01:49:14.000 At least it was six years ago.

01:49:16.000 It was absolutely the envy of the world.

01:49:17.000 And one reason that we were the envy of the world, our democracy was, is because you knew it was one man, one vote, as close as possible.

01:49:26.000 When we lose that, It's all downhill from there.

01:49:29.000 Well, I mean, they are destroying our Republican form of government.

01:49:31.000 Our republic is being dismantled.

01:49:33.000 BL, anything else?

01:49:34.000 Gentlemen, I don't want to live in a democracy.

01:49:36.000 I want to live in a constitutional republic with states' rights.

01:49:40.000 BL, do you want to finish up briefly after the break?

01:49:42.000 I'll give you a little bit after the break, because I want to get where you're going.

01:49:45.000 Stay with us.

01:49:45.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:49.000 Welcome back.

01:52:59.000 Final segment.

01:53:00.000 I know I had the callers holding forever.

01:53:01.000 We'll try to jam as many of you in as we can, Sasha, Mike and others.

01:53:04.000 But real fast, BL Your point about us being a republic, absolutely.

01:53:10.000 The point is, the people's right in that democratic process is being removed.

01:53:15.000 Finish up what you were saying, Mike, in Texas.

01:53:17.000 I mean, BL in Texas. 0.63

01:53:18.000 Well, democracy, as we all know, is three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

01:53:23.000 I don't want to be a U.S. 0.97

01:53:24.000 citizen, a 14th Amendment citizen.

01:53:26.000 I want to be a citizen of a sovereign state that adheres to its original constitution and is a member Of the Constitutional Republic of these United States of America.

01:53:37.000 Thank you, BL.

01:53:38.000 I appreciate your call.

01:53:39.000 Mike, he's making the point that since the amendment in 1913 to remove our senators to Washington that the states have become vassals of the federal government.

01:53:49.000 Yeah, well, you know, there's always been the conflict between federalism and states' rights, and unfortunately right now it's upside down on the federal side.

01:53:59.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:54:00.000 Sasha in Missouri, you're on the air.

01:54:02.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:54:02.000 Welcome.

01:54:03.000 It's an honor to speak with such good doers.

01:54:06.000 What's on your mind?

01:54:08.000 My quick question is, how do we reconcile these obviously corrupted voting machines with the need to get these bad guys out of office by 2006?

01:54:15.000 And will your court case happen in time to legitimize?

01:54:19.000 That election.

01:54:20.000 The best we can hope for is that the case comes out from under seal.

01:54:24.000 Right now it's under seal.

01:54:25.000 The U.S.

01:54:25.000 Attorney has it.

01:54:26.000 We can't talk about it until it comes out. 0.99

01:54:28.000 If it comes out under seal before this November election, this is some startling stuff and even the indolent, idiotic, mainstream media has to pick up on it. 0.98

01:54:37.000 Thank you, Sasha. 0.96

01:54:38.000 I appreciate that call.

01:54:40.000 It's going to get more and more obvious, though.

01:54:41.000 I mean, if we start having King George III, King George V, Jeb VIII, Barbara X, and then the polls say 90% of us don't like them, it's going to be pretty obvious it's a fraud.

01:54:52.000 Yes.

01:54:53.000 Well, unfortunately, it has to be a Ralph Reed kind of deal where it's so heavy-handedly one side that they can't fix it.

01:55:00.000 Mike in Florida, you're on the air.

01:55:02.000 Hi, Alex.

01:55:02.000 Go ahead.

01:55:04.000 I just wanted to address something that I'm not sure anybody's really addressed.

01:55:09.000 We have the New World Order that has a planned destruction of America.

01:55:12.000 I believe part of that is that, for one, George Bush is not as ignorant as we think he is, and that really what we see going on in the Middle East right now could possibly be a planned destruction for the military, because our military is really the last great superpower that could even stand in the way of what they really want to do.

01:55:31.000 Yeah, globalism, the globalists.

01:55:33.000 I was just up at the Bilderberg meeting covering that a month ago in Up in Ottawa, Canada.

01:55:38.000 Yeah, this whole globalism where these corporations come in and create extra-national organizations that then supersede national sovereignty.

01:55:45.000 Mike, your take on that?

01:55:47.000 Well, I think you give too much credit to George Bush.

01:55:50.000 I interviewed Yossi Shiromi one time, who was his MBA Harvard professor.

01:55:54.000 He said he's never met a duller wit in his life.

01:55:58.000 So I think everything Bush does is basically knee-jerk.

01:56:01.000 Well, he's certainly a puppet, but what about his handlers? 0.87

01:56:04.000 They're cunning.

01:56:05.000 Well, his handlers are cunning, but I think corporate America, the only reason I would disagree with where you're headed with that, is corporate America needs stability to make money.

01:56:15.000 And at the end of the day, it's that money that they care about.

01:56:18.000 Well, no, I agree with that statement.

01:56:21.000 So is corporate America trying to pull Bush's chain back in?

01:56:24.000 It seems like they're letting him go.

01:56:26.000 Well, they're letting him go only because it's a quid pro quo.

01:56:30.000 It's exchange.

01:56:31.000 You give us, you know, multi-billion dollar tax cuts.

01:56:34.000 You let us deregulate everything.

01:56:37.000 You do whatever the hell you want to do on an international level.

01:56:39.000 He never vetoes bills.

01:56:41.000 He spent more money than all presidents before him combined.

01:56:44.000 How is that conservative?

01:56:46.000 Well, it's not conservative.

01:56:48.000 The Republican Party really used to stand for something that was real, and that was that fiscal conservatives were never willing to start a unilateral war.

01:56:59.000 They were never willing to escalate and have adventurism determine where we're going.

01:57:05.000 But it's not a Republican Party anymore, it's a corporatist party.

01:57:08.000 Well, Mike Papantonio, it's been a real honor to have you.

01:57:11.000 I know you're a very busy man, and I hope folks will tune into your Saturday program from 5 to 7 p.m.

01:57:18.000 Eastern on the Ring of Fire on Air America stations around the country.

01:57:24.000 Well, thank you for the invitation.

01:57:25.000 You do great work.

01:57:26.000 I mean, you were doing this before anybody thought about doing it, and that pays the way forward.

01:57:31.000 God bless you, Mike.

01:57:32.000 Take care.

01:57:33.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.

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01:57:55.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 We know Israel's bought massive amounts of DU weaponry, munitions, from the United States and are using them right now in Lebanon.

01:58:15.000 Dr. Doug Rockey, who wrote the book, On DU, for the Pentagon, their head of their DU program will be joining us in the next segment.

01:58:23.000 I wanted to roll this international news piece concerning the targeting of emergency vehicles, ambulances, you know about the UN getting bombed.

01:58:31.000 Here it is.

01:58:33.000 In the middle of the night, another dreadful landmark in this conflict.

01:58:37.000 Lebanese ambulance men, shocked and bleeding, brought in as casualties to a hospital in Tyre.

01:58:44.000 They were hurt when Israeli aircraft rocketed two ambulance crews who were transferring wounded civilians in a village 10 miles outside the city.

01:58:54.000 The medics say that at the time of the attack their ambulances were stationary with their blue lights flashing and spotlights shining on their Red Cross flags.

01:59:04.000 Then, one after the other, the two vehicles were hit.

01:59:07.000 But two of the injured civilians in the ambulances received terrible additional wounds.

01:59:12.000 This man had a leg severed by one of the two blasts.

01:59:16.000 His 12-year-old son suffered brain injuries and severe burns.

01:59:21.000 The Lebanese ambulance crews have shown extraordinary courage in the last two weeks.

01:59:26.000 But not surprisingly, some are now reluctant to go outside the city of Tyre.

01:59:31.000 On the face of it, it is difficult to understand just how the Israeli military could possibly have mistaken two clearly marked ambulances for a legitimate military target.

01:59:40.000 And that is certainly a question that the International Red Cross will be seeking answers to.

01:59:44.000 But the practical effect is that medical aid for the people of South Lebanon has been sharply reduced.

01:59:51.000 Well, I'm joined now by Captain Jacob Dallal from the Israeli Army.

01:59:54.000 Well, we've seen it there, haven't we, Captain Dallal?

01:59:56.000 This can't go on, this indiscriminate slaughter of Lebanese civilians.

02:00:03.000 We have nothing against the Lebanese civilians.

02:00:05.000 We never intentionally target civilians.

02:00:08.000 And certainly not ambulances or aid workers.

02:00:11.000 But there's a conflict with the greatest respect.

02:00:16.000 We're talking about the Israeli army.

02:00:17.000 Do you accept that hitting a Red Cross ambulance and a convoy of civilians fleeing are acts that are flagrant breaches of the rules of war?

02:00:28.000 We never intentionally target civilians or ambulances.

02:00:33.000 And you've also seen the effects of those Israeli strikes.

02:00:36.000 What do you make of it all?

02:00:39.000 Well I can tell you that just a few moments ago I actually saw an amateur video taken by a member of the ambulance service, a video which ITV News viewers will be seeing later tonight, of the effects of the Israeli strike on those two ambulances.

02:00:50.000 And from a quick glance at it, it's just arrived, I would say that those ambulances were strafed from the air by helicopter fire, possibly some sort of machine gun or cannon fire which punched holes in the roof.

02:01:01.000 And as I said in my report, severed the leg of one of the civilian victims.

02:01:05.000 As new pictures emerge tonight of the moment the convoy was attacked, the UN tells ITV News that Israel is breaking the rules of war.

02:01:13.000 But the air attack on two Red Cross ambulances has increased the controversy surrounding the Israeli assault on Lebanon.

02:01:21.000 We never intentionally target civilians or ambulances.

02:01:26.000 The ambulances were hit at around midnight last night as their crews transferred wounded civilians from one vehicle to another in a village east of Tyre.

02:01:36.000 We never intentionally target civilians or ambulances.

02:01:40.000 I've got several of those reports kind of strung together.

02:01:43.000 You can see the video up there on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.

02:01:48.000 Hey, show us the helicopter gun camera footage then!

02:01:51.000 You don't target civilians.

02:01:53.000 And of course they rocketed, bombed, and used artillery to totally destroy the UN base.

02:02:00.000 They know exactly what they're doing and I guess they'll just feed us these ridiculous one-liners about, we never intentionally target.

02:02:08.000 Really?

02:02:10.000 And you never intentionally run over American citizens with bulldozers either.

02:02:15.000 But we have all these troops and all these documents in Iraq where our soldiers have been ordered to kill Men, women, and children, quote, everyone in the villages.

02:02:24.000 It's the same thing.

02:02:26.000 Barbarous crimes being committed.

02:02:30.000 It's a crime when a suicide bomber blows up a bus of civilians.

02:02:34.000 It's a crime what Israel's doing. 1.00

02:02:35.000 You do not target civilians.

02:02:37.000 That's 101.

02:02:39.000 We'll be back with Dr. Doug Rockey.

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02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:57.000 His bio is just too prolific to cover all of it.

02:06:03.000 Dr. Doug Rockey, we have links to it up on InfoWars.com and some of the great reportage he's put out.

02:06:10.000 Headline here, depleted uranium situation worsens requiring immediate action by President Bush, Prime Minister Blair and Prime Minister Olbert.

02:06:18.000 And there's also reports coming out that DU is being used right now by Israel.

02:06:22.000 We know they bought it.

02:06:23.000 Dr. Doug Rockey earned his Ph.D.

02:06:25.000 in Physics and Technology Education at the University of Illinois.

02:06:28.000 His military career has spanned four decades to include combat duty during the Vietnam War and Gulf War.

02:06:36.000 One, Doug served as a member of the U.S.

02:06:39.000 Army Medical Command Nuclear Biological Chemical NBC Teaching Medical Response and Special Operations Team and with the Depleted Uranium Assessment Team during the Gulf War.

02:06:50.000 He was the U.S.

02:06:51.000 Army's Depleted Uranium Project Director.

02:06:53.000 Did you hear that?

02:06:54.000 From 94 to 95.

02:06:56.000 He has developed the congressionally mandated educational and training materials and wrote U.S.

02:07:01.000 Army Regulation 700-48 and the U.S.

02:07:04.000 Army's Command Task Force DU incidents.

02:07:08.000 Doug has taught nuclear, biological, and chemical warfare and emergency medicine for 20 years.

02:07:13.000 Folks, it just goes on and on.

02:07:15.000 I can't read all this.

02:07:16.000 He's been on ABC, CBS News, History Channel, A&E, PBS, testified for the U.S.

02:07:21.000 Senate National Academy of Science.

02:07:25.000 U.S.

02:07:25.000 House of Representatives, U.S.

02:07:26.000 Department of Transportation, FAA, U.S.

02:07:28.000 Department of Defense, U.S.

02:07:29.000 General Accounting Office, Department of Veterans Affairs, British Royal Society.

02:07:33.000 I mean, you've got to be a big shot to talk to the British Royal Society, the head of your field.

02:07:40.000 It's as prestigious as it gets.

02:07:43.000 British House of Lords.

02:07:44.000 I just can't read it all!

02:07:45.000 And he'll tell you that we're all being radiated.

02:07:48.000 Lung cancer is exploding.

02:07:49.000 It's all over the air.

02:07:50.000 It's totally deadly.

02:07:51.000 It's killed a bunch of his team.

02:07:53.000 Well, Dr. Rocky, you're joining us today graciously.

02:07:56.000 Thank you for coming on.

02:07:57.000 For laymen out there that don't know what this is, and for those that hear neocons say it's not bad for you, will you please tell us what this uranium is, how much has been used, and what we're facing, and now what Israel's doing?

02:08:10.000 Yes, sir.

02:08:11.000 Depleted uranium is a byproduct of the uranium enrichment process, where the United States and Great Britain and Canada, etc.

02:08:20.000 achieve or obtain fissionable uranium to make nuclear weapons and reactor fuel.

02:08:28.000 Over 99% of everything that goes into the enrichment process is pure waste.

02:08:33.000 It's uranium hexafluoride.

02:08:35.000 It is a radioactive, toxic poison.

02:08:38.000 And what has happened is the United States and Great Britain and Australia and Canada and now Israel. 0.59

02:08:45.000 Isn't that great?

02:08:47.000 Take this and make uranium munitions and then use them against civilians and military targets.

02:08:54.000 We have seen more than a quadrupling of dart defects in Iraq, a tripling in Kosovo and surrounding areas.

02:09:00.000 Talk about what we medically know this is doing to populations and then let's get into Israel. 0.77

02:09:07.000 Well, first hand, what we know from first hand experience and what happened to those of us in Gulf War I and when we did the research for the U.S.

02:09:13.000 Army is the first thing that hits you is the respiratory problems.

02:09:16.000 Then you have the rashes.

02:09:18.000 Then you start having the permanent lung damage within a few months because of the irradiation plus the chemical toxicity.

02:09:23.000 Then you have the neurological problems.

02:09:25.000 You have the gastrointestinal problems.

02:09:27.000 You have the calcium replacement in the bones.

02:09:29.000 You have decalcification of the bones and the teeth because the uranium is a bone seeker.

02:09:34.000 Then you have all the eye problems due to the alpha and the beta damage to the eyes.

02:09:38.000 And then the cancers.

02:09:39.000 And the leukemias and everything else.

02:09:42.000 It's catastrophic.

02:09:43.000 Army, in briefing the Pentagon leaders prior to Gulf War II in 2002, flat out acknowledged all of the problems.

02:09:43.000 The U.S.

02:09:51.000 Yet they disregard them and say that they don't exist in public.

02:09:55.000 I read it off the Library of Congress website about a year ago.

02:09:58.000 I forget the exact name.

02:09:59.000 What's that post-World War II, 1945 document?

02:10:03.000 Is it called Dirty Bullets, Dirty Bombs?

02:10:05.000 And they talk about gassing whole areas with uranium or using it, munitions.

02:10:10.000 What's the name of that if you place it?

02:10:12.000 My memory fails me, but they've been talking about this for a while, and secondarily, I've read mining manuals written by the federal government in the mid-80s.

02:10:21.000 I've read documents written in the early 90s.

02:10:22.000 They say it's deadly poison, particulate and radioactive.

02:10:25.000 Before they admitted it was bad, when did it change and they just said it was nutritious?

02:10:31.000 Nutritious is exactly how I got on Dan Rather the first time.

02:10:35.000 That's exactly how I got there with Dan Rather back in 1998.

02:10:40.000 Well, in 1943, the Groves Memorandum, the S-2 committee assigned to the Manhattan Project, specifically requested or directed that the United States use radioactive materials to contaminate air, water, and soil, cause all the adverse health effects to end the war in Europe.

02:10:55.000 Absolute cut and dry directive.

02:10:58.000 And obviously, they went on to make the nuclear weapon, you know, they had to obtain all this Again, 99% of the stuff that goes in is pure waste.

02:11:05.000 But the key is, back in the 40's they knew what the weapon was, and they said it's a permanent salting of the earth.

02:11:12.000 Absolutely correct.

02:11:12.000 And speaking with the last living gods of the Manhattan Project, they have thoroughly confirmed that.

02:11:19.000 So they've known for 60 plus years.

02:11:21.000 Please continue.

02:11:22.000 Absolutely.

02:11:23.000 Well, back in 1973 and 1974, the Israelis used uranium munitions for the very first time in the Sinai.

02:11:30.000 Against the Egyptians in the Arab-Israeli War.

02:11:33.000 Extraordinarily effective, destroyed all our armor, everything out there.

02:11:36.000 The reports that we then worked on and based our extensive research on and use of uranium munitions came from that 73 and 74 report on that use.

02:11:46.000 The adverse health effects were observed and known, the environmental effects were known, and all that stuff.

02:11:51.000 We then used it extraordinarily effective during Gulf War I. We were going to use it in Somalia, but our team got that stopped.

02:11:56.000 We talked the army out of it.

02:11:58.000 They then used it in the Balkans in 94 and 95, Okinawa in 95 and 96.

02:12:02.000 We got to the Balkans in 99 and 2000.

02:12:05.000 And then, lo and behold, here comes Afghanistan. 0.90

02:12:08.000 We had to go in, you know, invaded Afghanistan to overthrow the Taliban based on a February 12, 1998 congressional directive and discussion because they refused to go along with the Unicol's oil pipeline deal.

02:12:20.000 By the way, that pipeline opened up last week.

02:12:22.000 Isn't that great?

02:12:23.000 Yeah, I saw that.

02:12:25.000 And then extensive use in Iraq.

02:12:28.000 Back in a couple of years ago, right, just months after it all started, Army thoroughly confirmed they had used over 500 tons of uranium munitions in just the first few months in Iraq.

02:12:40.000 That's the shock and awe.

02:12:42.000 The U.S.

02:12:42.000 Army thoroughly confirmed in that that the GBU-28, which is a precision-guided bomb, if you will, 5,000 pounds of explosives, contains a depleted uranium warhead.

02:12:57.000 Again, these are the bunker busters.

02:12:59.000 Well, lo and behold, last week, guess what the United States delivered to Israel?

02:13:04.000 Over 100 GBU-28s to use against targets in Lebanon.

02:13:10.000 Now, I want to bring this down to a personal level and talk about what you've been through, what happened to your team, dealing with this stuff, and why you went public years ago. 0.99

02:13:17.000 But first, I was out at Crawford last year talking to neocon idiots who aren't real conservatives, folks.

02:13:25.000 And some of them, a few of them, had been in the First Gulf War and I brought up DU and they said, I was all around it, I love it, it isn't bad for me. 0.98

02:13:33.000 I feel great and I said, listen, it really is hurting the Tribs, the manuals say it. 0.97

02:13:36.000 They're like, shut up, commie liar, it's good! 1.00

02:13:39.000 What would you, as the head of the DU program, tell them about it and then personally, what would you tell them? 0.97

02:13:45.000 Well, first off, they haven't completed all the education and training that's mandated by the U.S.

02:13:50.000 Army that I wrote for the U.S.

02:13:51.000 Army.

02:13:52.000 Which ended up being for the U.S.

02:13:53.000 Department of Defense, which ended up being adopted by NATO.

02:13:56.000 They didn't do it.

02:13:57.000 And the other thing, too, is anybody that thinks that you can expose, inhale, ingest, absorb, and get uranium shrapnel into your body that has both a radioactive toxicity and is chemically toxic, worse than eating lead paint dust, well, if you think this is not harmful, then you're flat wrong.

02:14:14.000 And it always has been, and always will be, and it's going to continue to be.

02:14:18.000 Because you can't clean it up, and you can't... What's the half-life?

02:14:22.000 Four and a half billion?

02:14:23.000 Yeah, one half-life is four and a half billion years, but you've got to remember in physics you have to go through ten half-lives before it's considered relatively safe.

02:14:30.000 So that's 45 billion years.

02:14:32.000 Now the Earth is only four and a half billion years old to begin with.

02:14:36.000 That's unbelievable.

02:14:37.000 And now we've got ten proven grounds in the U.S.

02:14:40.000 using it.

02:14:41.000 We've got it being used all over the world.

02:14:42.000 Now they're putting it in smaller and smaller munitions in the, you know, smaller heavy machine guns, smaller cannons on the Bradley fighting vehicles, on the Marine Warriors.

02:14:51.000 They're serving it out everywhere and using it in more spots, I discovered, all over the U.S.

02:14:56.000 We're seeing a total ramping up with our nuclear waste.

02:14:59.000 And then now radiation detectors in what, England and the U.S.

02:15:02.000 have picked up massive increases?

02:15:04.000 In D.U.

02:15:05.000 particular, Doctor?

02:15:06.000 That is absolutely correct.

02:15:07.000 The incredible work of one of the great scientists in the world, Dr. Chris Busby, and all everybody else thoroughly confirmed that the uranium dust and everything that was dispersed throughout Iraq and the Middle East was dispersed around the world and got as far as England.

02:15:23.000 One of the funniest things, the head of the British Royal Society, Dr. Brian Spratt, Brian and I have worked together for years.

02:15:28.000 We've done radio shows together and all this stuff, TV.

02:15:32.000 Stated well, you know, it's not the uranium weapons.

02:15:34.000 It's all just all the standard uranium that's in the soil that got Dispersed up.

02:15:39.000 Well, you forget to say that, you know, there's 375 tons disperse in Gulf War one continued throughout up to the period and And probably upwards of 2,000 tons in Gulf War II up to this date.

02:15:51.000 Now, I saw the number a few years ago in mainstream news of the equivalent of 44,000 Hiroshima A-bombs.

02:15:57.000 They've used a lot more since then.

02:15:58.000 How many equivalent A-bombs are we talking about now? 0.93

02:16:01.000 Well, I don't know.

02:16:02.000 You have to go into the relatively quantity amount of radioactive materials.

02:16:05.000 You have to remember, in an atomic bomb, and I will not go into that, use relatively a small amount of mass.

02:16:11.000 Okay?

02:16:12.000 In each DE weapon, for example, The tank, Abrams tank fires, and now the Israeli tank fires a DU round.

02:16:19.000 Sabo? 0.90

02:16:20.000 Yeah, every single round is over 10 pounds of solid uranium.

02:16:24.000 Now the bunker buster is 5,000 pounds.

02:16:28.000 You know, now we have the GBU-28, the Army's confirmed that, on-site measurements in Iraq thoroughly confirmed that it's a radioactive bomb, and the shrapnel is there after it's used, and it's a problem and everything else, so it's all there.

02:16:40.000 So now the other thing that we have is thorough photographic confirmation, I want to repeat, photographic confirmation of Israeli tankers loading uranium rounds into Israeli tanks and using them in Lebanon, along with the GBU-28.

02:16:56.000 And we've got your article documenting all that up on InfoWars.com.

02:16:59.000 So they take delivery of the big 5,000 pound bunker busters I guess each one is 5,000 pounds, equivalent of hundreds of the little Hiroshima or Nagasaki, you know, just a few pounds in those.

02:17:09.000 And then now they've got the Sabo rounds.

02:17:11.000 How much do those Abrams M1A standard shell weigh?

02:17:16.000 Well, each one contains over 10 pounds of solid uranium.

02:17:20.000 Then the Bradley fighting vehicle has a round where every one's a half pound.

02:17:24.000 The A-10 Warthog aircraft fires at 4,000 rounds a minute, where each one's three quarters of a pound.

02:17:29.000 Then the Barrett machine gun, You know the Barrett .50 Cal?

02:17:33.000 Yes.

02:17:33.000 Oh God, the Barrett people brag about how well the DU round works in their rifle.

02:17:38.000 We'll be right back with this insanity.

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02:21:56.000 The point I always mean to make about DU with these tens of thousands of tons being used all over the place and in proving grounds Is it the media is always hyping the terrorists could steal some x-ray elements and strap them around some TNT and blow it up in Chicago or Dallas or something and radiate a few blocks and oh no Then I went and actually looked up what a dirty bomb would do.

02:22:19.000 It'd probably make you sick, but if you got medical treatment, you'd be alright.

02:22:22.000 Might reduce your life by 10-15 years.

02:22:24.000 That's what the experts were saying.

02:22:26.000 So it's really hype.

02:22:27.000 But meanwhile, real dirty bombs are going off everywhere.

02:22:30.000 Dr. Doug Rocky, can you comment on that and then get into what we know about Israel?

02:22:33.000 Well, very clearly, the Office of Homeland Security and their new guidelines and directive very specifically state the deliberate use of any radioactive materials.

02:22:42.000 Dispersal of anything now is absolutely illegal and is considered a dirty bomb and it's absolutely a crime against humanity.

02:22:50.000 And we've just done it over and over again.

02:22:52.000 So now we come to Israel.

02:22:55.000 Israel went into Lebanon, literally destroying Lebanon. 0.76

02:22:58.000 On an earlier segment, as I was listening in, you have Israel say, we never target civilians, we never target civilians.

02:23:05.000 Well, you know, right away, Jesus, they blow them up all over the place.

02:23:09.000 There's video of them walking up splattering kids.

02:23:12.000 That's correct.

02:23:12.000 That's absolutely been happening for a long time and including, you know, using tanks to run over American citizens.

02:23:17.000 You know, that's just a given thing with Rachel Corey.

02:23:20.000 And so what we have now is deliberate use of radioactive munitions, depleted uranium munitions, which are illegal according to the United Nations.

02:23:27.000 But I want to stop you.

02:23:28.000 I want to stop you.

02:23:29.000 They're using these on bunkers and pillboxes and then the Israeli troops go into there minutes after they've cleared them and breathe the aerosolized... I'm sorry, go ahead. 0.51

02:23:37.000 Yeah, and they do.

02:23:38.000 So what we've got is we've got all the Lebanese being affected.

02:23:40.000 We've got all the women and children being affected.

02:23:42.000 We've got all the Israelis being affected.

02:23:44.000 And the areas over there are so small, you're going to have the whole region affected and contaminated.

02:23:49.000 We absolutely know from first-hand research and production that the National Lead Site up in Albany, New York, when it was produced in DU, had a release.

02:23:58.000 And that release went 30 miles and was caught on incoming filters at a U.S.

02:24:03.000 Navy nuclear weapons station.

02:24:06.000 And they had an alarm and thought it was theirs, yeah.

02:24:08.000 They thought it was theirs going out, and what it was was the DU coming in 30 miles.

02:24:08.000 Correct.

02:24:12.000 And now with Busby's work, we know that it goes all the way around the globe.

02:24:16.000 And we know, absolutely have to understand, the U.S.

02:24:19.000 Army Common Task Training mandate absolutely requires every U.S.

02:24:23.000 military personnel to wear full respiratory and skin protection within 50 meters of any single incident, until it's all cleaned up.

02:24:32.000 It also mandates immediate medical care.

02:24:35.000 And it states very clearly, very, very specifically, that the uranium contamination made food and water unusable.

02:24:42.000 So now we're just retracing another entire region.

02:24:46.000 The other thing that's important, and the U.S.

02:24:48.000 Army Regulation 700-48, which General Eric Shinseki made official, says, thou shall follow, absolutely requires prompt and thorough environmental remediation, and absolutely requires prompt and effective medical care for all casualties.

02:25:05.000 As does the orders issued by the Surgeon General of the U.S.

02:25:07.000 Army at that time, in April of 2004, General Peake.

02:25:10.000 Can you talk about the photos, because we've got these posted, where it shows, and we know they took delivery of the big weapons, but we know they're using the SABOs in the tank rounds.

02:25:19.000 I mean, what do we do about this?

02:25:21.000 Talk about the photos.

02:25:23.000 Well, the photos, again, we've been getting all the words, and I've been getting inquiries and phone calls from all over the place for over a week now, and then all of a sudden the photos started showing up.

02:25:32.000 We knew about the GB-20U delivery, we knew the Army, that was already a given thing.

02:25:37.000 And then we were questioning whether or not it was.

02:25:38.000 Now we were looking at the damage that's being done in Lebanon, and all the damage indicates DU. 1.00

02:25:44.000 But until we actually got the full photograph of the DU round being loaded by a tank gunner, Israeli tank gunner, we didn't have that.

02:25:51.000 And that came in here yesterday.

02:25:53.000 But they're not going up against heavy armor.

02:25:55.000 I mean, I know it was developed, they sent in a last ditch if the Russians had already nuked us, and they were rolling into Western Europe, and we were fighting, you know, odds of 10 to 1 with limited troops in foxholes, using DU cannons against them in emergency.

02:26:09.000 But now it's just, oh, we're going to use it in Lebanon against light personnel targets.

02:26:15.000 First off, let's understand, uranium munitions have been used against all targets.

02:26:19.000 They're extraordinarily effective against a wooden house.

02:26:22.000 Or any bridge structure.

02:26:23.000 They're extraordinarily effective.

02:26:24.000 Again, water treatment facilities, facility sewage sanitation, apartment buildings, hotels.

02:26:32.000 That's what they did in Iraq. 0.54

02:26:33.000 Because a 50 Cal will bounce off a big water tank, but not a DU 50 Cal.

02:26:36.000 A DU 50 Cal. 0.98

02:26:38.000 One of our DU 50 Cals fired by the U.S.

02:26:40.000 Marine took out an Abrams tank over in Iraq a couple years ago, and we had to do the, during Gulf War II, and we did the investigation and verified that.

02:26:47.000 And the Department of Defense just kind of all downplayed it.

02:26:50.000 That's why Barrett brags about how well it is.

02:26:52.000 Go to the Barrett website, you know, for his manufacturing plant down there in Tennessee with a .50 cal rifle.

02:26:57.000 He brags about the DEU round effectiveness in his weapon.

02:27:00.000 I mean, it's just simple.

02:27:01.000 We have it now in the kinetic energy penetrators.

02:27:05.000 That is the 20mm, 25mm, 30mm, 105, 120, 125.

02:27:06.000 We have it in the 7.62 machine gun.

02:27:07.000 We have it in the 7.62 machine gun, we have it in the 50 cal machine gun, we have cluster bombs, and we have the great great bunker busters and cruise missiles.

02:27:20.000 It's in everything, because it's extraordinarily effective.

02:27:23.000 And it's totally insane.

02:27:25.000 Completely.

02:27:26.000 And as you know, Prime Minister Olmert, I contacted him, and he is- Stay there, stay there.

02:27:30.000 Tell us about it when we get back, sir.

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02:34:16.000 Doctor, I want to talk about psychology here for a moment.

02:34:21.000 The Army's own documents, the development of the weapons, they know it's deadly, they know it's toxic, they know it's radioactive, they know it just radically expands birth defects, now because it gets into the ovaries, it gets into the testicles, and it just totally fries DNA.

02:34:36.000 We know that, I mean, this is ancient science.

02:34:39.000 This is peer-reviewed, official policy, officially admitted, but now they're using it, as you said, even down into small arms.

02:34:48.000 They're serving it out.

02:34:49.000 They're using it.

02:34:50.000 A few years ago, it was 10 proving grounds.

02:34:51.000 Now, they're reporting it's being used at almost every proving ground and base.

02:34:55.000 It's being used at Fort Hood, right where we live, a few miles away, folks, in Central Texas.

02:35:00.000 What is the mindset of the elite, of the government now, because as you said, they had this back in the 40s, That they're now using it and just saying, no, we say it's fine.

02:35:10.000 What has changed?

02:35:11.000 What does this speak to?

02:35:12.000 I mean, take the Israelis. 0.97

02:35:13.000 They're using it.

02:35:14.000 They know it's going to hurt their own people.

02:35:16.000 What is wrong with the elite?

02:35:19.000 Well, the people in the military, first off, you have to understand, and I've been a warrior forever, you're John Wayne, you're Rambo, you're thoroughly immune to everything.

02:35:27.000 You will not get sick, you will not get injured, you will not die.

02:35:31.000 But you're going to kill the enemy and destroy the enemy's stuff as best you can.

02:35:34.000 Well, uranium munitions are incredibly effective.

02:35:37.000 Just think, a .50 caliber bullet will completely destroy an Abrams tank.

02:35:44.000 You know, I mean... Well, so will a nuclear bomb, but we don't use them because of the blowback.

02:35:48.000 Yeah, well, you know, we're the only country that has, and we will again.

02:35:51.000 We're doing the research right now as we speak, you know, on the many nukes, and it's already been stated we will use them.

02:35:57.000 No such thing as many either, is there?

02:35:59.000 No, there isn't.

02:35:59.000 There is no such thing.

02:36:01.000 And war, no matter what you do, and one of the questions that came today, and I've been having inquiries coming from all kinds of press and family members, the Lebanese are having extraordinarily health problems because of this combat engagement.

02:36:14.000 So what we've done is we've used, they're using uranium munitions, They're destroying the infrastructure, releasing all the toxic industrial chemicals from agricultural, industry, medicine, and education all over the area.

02:36:26.000 And people are getting sick and dying.

02:36:27.000 Just what happened in the Gulf War and the Balkans and all over the place.

02:36:31.000 And what actually happened in Katrina.

02:36:32.000 You know when all that stuff got destroyed.

02:36:35.000 So we're seeing the same thing over and over again.

02:36:38.000 The other thing that I have thorough confirmation of, I've been hearing words and rumors about the Lebanese coming down with massive diarrhea and vomiting.

02:36:46.000 Well then, at the end of last week, I found out from the Pentagon, a source that I thoroughly trust, said, oh yeah, they're using biologicals, Bacillus glabagii, and I go, oh great, thank you very much.

02:36:56.000 Have you seen the photos in mainstream news of huge bio-slash-chemical canisters?

02:37:02.000 We don't know what's in them, but it is for heavy artillery to deliver that, and that it's exploding?

02:37:07.000 Bacillus glabagii, probably, because from the health effects where they've been used, that's what it comes out like.

02:37:13.000 military had used Bacillus Gulbagai down at Fort McClellan back in the 90s causing a catastrophe, you know, just all kinds of health problems in the whole region.

02:37:13.000 The U.S.

02:37:21.000 And then the reporters that reported on it actually got it back and they transmitted it back home.

02:37:25.000 See, that's the other thing that happened with uranium munitions.

02:37:28.000 The reason why you have to wear respiratory skin protection and go through decontamination, which is mandated in the common task in the Army regulations, is that you don't want to transfer it back home.

02:37:38.000 You don't want to take the equipment and contaminate and transfer it back home.

02:37:42.000 Uh, that came about because 1994-95 when I went back on as a director of the Depleted Uranium Project, we found contaminated equipment from Gulf War I at Fort McClellan in Anniston Army Depot.

02:37:54.000 Four years, five years after the fact.

02:37:57.000 It had been brought back to the States.

02:37:58.000 Well, going back to proving grounds, they're serving it out into old munitions now, and I've read they're using it at every major base, so this is insane! 0.97

02:38:07.000 It's thoroughly insane, but you have to understand, again, what it is, is that we're going to kill and destroy.

02:38:11.000 We've thoroughly forgot what ethics and morality exist.

02:38:16.000 We have thoroughly forgot what the adverse health effects of war are.

02:38:20.000 I mean, let's look at the real numbers.

02:38:22.000 And we've talked about this before.

02:38:24.000 Department of Veteran Affairs puts out what's called the Compensation and Pension Statistics every few months.

02:38:24.000 The U.S.

02:38:30.000 This is under the Gulf War Veterans Information System.

02:38:32.000 The May 2006 report that I received Thoroughly documents that as of May 30, 2006, 383,913 of America's sons and daughters had applied for permanent disability and permanent medical care for injuries and illnesses incurred in the Persian Gulf from August of 1990 of America's sons and daughters had applied for permanent disability and permanent medical care 383,000.

02:39:00.000 So what percentage of the general force is that from that war?

02:39:06.000 Well, let's come back on down.

02:39:09.000 We know that the number of people that were deployed as of May 30th were 1,129,340.

02:39:12.000 Okay?

02:39:12.000 A little over 1 million.

02:39:13.000 But as of May 30th, out of the 1 million that had been deployed, there were only 943,000 left alive.

02:39:17.000 But as of May 30th, out of the 1 million that had been deployed, there were only 943,000 left alive.

02:39:17.000 Wow.

02:39:25.000 Wow.

02:39:27.000 So 180,000 of the sons and daughters that got deployed in the Persian Gulf have died.

02:39:32.000 They got deployed in the Persian Gulf from August of 1990 up until May of 2006.

02:39:37.000 If you compare that to their average year group, I would imagine that it's a much higher death rate than what we'd see in the general population.

02:39:45.000 Oh, it's incredible, because you've got to remember, we were all extremely healthy, could run all day, leaped all billows at a single bound.

02:39:51.000 This is an extraordinarily healthy population prior time of deployment.

02:39:55.000 And so they're coming back sick all over the place.

02:39:58.000 I mean, when we go back to the numbers for Gulf War 1 alone, okay, what, 100 hour war, correct?

02:40:03.000 Yes.

02:40:04.000 Something like that?

02:40:05.000 As of May 30th of 2006, 265,433 applied for permanent disability medical care for life.

02:40:15.000 But I'm getting back to the mentality.

02:40:16.000 I understand for the troops and the generals that, you know, we're tough, we're bulletproof, we can do whatever we want.

02:40:22.000 But at the same time, I mean, looking at the policy makers, the statisticians, the think tanks, they've clearly made a policy decision to ignore all their own manuals and just let the troops die en masse and let them come home and have deformed children. 0.88

02:40:36.000 And Doug Rocky, talk about, just for a minute or two and then we'll go to calls, what happened to your team, what happened to you, and I'd like to hear your comment on how you feel towards those in government that decided to do all this.

02:40:47.000 Well, in March of 1991, General Franks and General Brown handed me a memorandum called the Los Alamos Memorandum, and that directed us to lie in our official reports regarding the adverse health and environmental effects of uranium munitions in order to maintain proponency and sustain their use so they would not become politically unacceptable and be deleted from the arsenals.

02:41:07.000 That was the first directive I got.

02:41:09.000 We all started getting sick within 24 to 48 hours and it's never ceased.

02:41:14.000 I ordered medical care immediately for all DU casualties. 0.97

02:41:16.000 That has never happened.

02:41:18.000 It has not happened.

02:41:20.000 And that happened in Iraq.

02:41:21.000 And then as you're aware, you've got a copy of the response.

02:41:24.000 I contacted Prime Minister Olmert and President Bush again this week, in the last few days.

02:41:30.000 And I also personally called up the Secretary of Defense office and said, okay guys, you're using it again.

02:41:35.000 You better clean it up and give the medical care.

02:41:38.000 Well, you know, thank you very much and go away.

02:41:42.000 What has happened?

02:41:43.000 As a warrior, as a patriot, I had to come to the realization that we had saw in Vietnam with Agent Orange, and you have to understand, DU is the Agent Orange of the new century, the new generation. 0.93

02:41:55.000 I had to come to the realization that, number one, when we are ordered to go to the military, we're not going to have the equipment necessary.

02:42:01.000 We're not going to have the mandated and developed education and training which maintains combat readiness.

02:42:07.000 When you get injured, you're not going to get the medical care.

02:42:10.000 And when you die, you're going to be thoroughly abandoned, like Sergeant First Class John Sitton, one of my team members, was.

02:42:16.000 Just totally abandoned and died of lung cancer.

02:42:19.000 And despite specific requests for medical care all the way up to the President of the United States, Billy Clinton, he never got it and he died abandoned in Springfield Memorial Hospital, Springfield, Illinois.

02:42:31.000 Well every time we talk about this and we take a lot of calls, when we have time to, I don't know if it will happen today because we don't have a lot of time for calls, but it will take some.

02:42:38.000 People call in whose sons and daughters have come back totally healthy, 25, 30 years old, 18, 19 years old.

02:42:45.000 They've been in bunkers that were hit.

02:42:46.000 They've been in areas that were hit.

02:42:48.000 And man, they will just fall apart.

02:42:50.000 They will go into convulsions.

02:42:53.000 They'll get cancers.

02:42:54.000 Their kids are deformed.

02:42:55.000 I mean, it is just so horrible to see this.

02:42:59.000 And that's how we support the troops?

02:43:00.000 Well, that's what happened.

02:43:01.000 Let's look at the case.

02:43:03.000 The 442nd Military Police Unit.

02:43:05.000 New York National Guard that responded to the World Trade Center, okay, in those incidents, they got activated and deployed to Iraq.

02:43:13.000 They got exposed.

02:43:14.000 Those warriors, those American warriors, those heroes, the finest of New York's finest, conceived children, now born with birth defects, have developed cancer, have all kinds of medical problems, and those heroes of America, New York's finest, have been totally abandoned.

02:43:31.000 By the Department of Defense and U.S.

02:43:33.000 Department of Veteran Affairs.

02:43:34.000 Not only them, but myself.

02:43:36.000 My health took a turn for the worse here on the bone decalcification a little over a week ago.

02:43:41.000 And after the test, my doctor's nurse called and said, Doug, we've got to do something right now.

02:43:45.000 So I called Dr. Melissa McDermott at the Baltimore VA, that is the doctor responsible for the DU Medical Program, and asked her to call back and help me.

02:43:54.000 Well, they've never called me or had me back up there since March 1999 after they saw all the problems.

02:43:59.000 Because even though you wrote the book on it and were over there running the program, now you're calling her, the former head of the program, and you're not going to get a call back.

02:44:07.000 I never will, and my guys can't get medical care.

02:44:09.000 I've had individuals that have requested medical care, they've never received it.

02:44:13.000 And, you know, the United States General Accounting Office thoroughly confirmed that.

02:44:16.000 The President of the United States knows how many needed it, and they just totally disregarded it.

02:44:20.000 Does it make you angry?

02:44:22.000 Because, I mean, not just for yourself and your colleagues, but it's going to just keep happening and happening and happening, and it's going to be toxified, you know, in our neighborhoods, and they just don't care.

02:44:33.000 It's just, it's crazy.

02:44:35.000 God's backyard is now being contaminated.

02:44:38.000 And the children of God's backyard are going to be affected for eternity.

02:44:42.000 But it doesn't end there, Dr. Rockey, as you know.

02:44:44.000 I mean, I have newscasts where the federal government says mercury is good for your brain now.

02:44:49.000 I mean, they're not just doing it on this.

02:44:52.000 It's like a general craziness has begun.

02:44:55.000 Where because the government says mercury is good for your child's brain.

02:44:58.000 In fact, find that clip.

02:44:59.000 You won't believe me unless I play it.

02:45:01.000 This aired nationally, but it aired in local towns too.

02:45:04.000 I have it from Austin.

02:45:05.000 I'm talking to the psychology, where do you see this going if it's now been, you know, now been delivered for small arms?

02:45:11.000 I mean, where's it going?

02:45:13.000 It's going, it just is catastrophic.

02:45:16.000 I mean, I don't know, it's a whole turning point.

02:45:18.000 We have to understand, and this was a realization I had to come through, and as a warrior, a dedicated warrior, a disabled combat veteran, and now retired senior army officer, I had to come to the realization, number one, nobody ever wins in war.

02:45:31.000 It doesn't matter how many battles you win, war is about sickness, dying, and destruction.

02:45:37.000 War cannot be justified at all today.

02:45:39.000 I mean, it's so funny because you had your Israelis there on the newscast saying, we don't target civilians. 1.00

02:45:45.000 And what are they blowing Lebanon away for? 0.99

02:45:47.000 We had our Secretary of State going over and said, well, we want peace, but yet we're delivering horrible weapons and authorizing their use at the same time.

02:45:54.000 Well, getting back to how they could use DU, I'm sure you heard about how Bayer's been found guilty simply, and they got their own documents, where they knowingly, for over 10 years after they found it, putting HIV and Hepatitis C in the Factor VIII, Doctor.

02:46:06.000 I mean, and in their own corporate documents, saying, we're going to make money anyways, just sell it.

02:46:11.000 I mean, it's just, it's incredible.

02:46:12.000 Let's take a call.

02:46:14.000 He wants to be known as Watson in Illinois.

02:46:14.000 Watson.

02:46:17.000 Go ahead.

02:46:17.000 You're on the air.

02:46:19.000 Hello, Alex.

02:46:20.000 How are you, sir?

02:46:20.000 Fine.

02:46:21.000 Go ahead.

02:46:22.000 Um, well, I first want to say happy anniversary to you.

02:46:26.000 Uh, you mean... Five years from when you predicted September 11th.

02:46:29.000 Oh, yes.

02:46:30.000 Well, that was yesterday.

02:46:31.000 Yes, sir.

02:46:32.000 Thank you.

02:46:32.000 Okay, um, the other thing is I saw Skinner Darkly this weekend.

02:46:36.000 You know, incredible movie.

02:46:38.000 Um, I also, you were talking recently about Oliver Stone and World Trade Center.

02:46:42.000 You know, is this going to be a propaganda film? 1.00

02:46:47.000 He's in the latest issue of GQ and he is calling Bush, he has no compassion in his damn parliamentary language, damn soul, and he wouldn't be such a liar. 0.99

02:46:58.000 So he is accusing George Bush of being a liar, so obviously he probably knows a lot of the truth behind... Oh, I know who this is now. 0.99

02:47:05.000 I met you guys in Chicago.

02:47:07.000 This is Mr. Watson.

02:47:08.000 Correct, correct.

02:47:09.000 How are you doing?

02:47:10.000 I'm doing great.

02:47:11.000 Oliver Stone did a great job with JFK.

02:47:13.000 He's allowed to make a movie about the firefighters who were heroes.

02:47:16.000 Whatever happened on 9-11 doesn't take away from it.

02:47:18.000 In fact, Dr. Rocky, let me just bring this up to you right now.

02:47:21.000 I mean, do you believe the official 9-11 story hunts?

02:47:24.000 Do you believe that 19 guys out of a cave could make NORAD stand down and fly planes into buildings and then do CIA insider trading and all the rest of it?

02:47:34.000 No, I do not.

02:47:35.000 I mean, I'm the Army officer that trained the New York Emergency Services Unit on counterterrorism, WMD, and improvised explosive devices.

02:47:42.000 I put that program together and they were my first class.

02:47:44.000 They have stated very specifically in radio transmissions now released And in videos, there were explosives going off floor by floor in the World Trade Center as it came down.

02:47:54.000 They stated that very specifically.

02:47:56.000 Who has the motive, Doctor, for carrying out 9-11?

02:47:58.000 Well, it's very simple.

02:48:00.000 The United States had to obtain specific public approval for the invasions of Afghanistan and Gulf War II in Iraq, and both of those were planned years and years before on 9-11 or September.

02:48:12.000 They were supposed to actually be fully implemented In 2000, while Clinton was the president, General Franks thoroughly acknowledged that on page 336 of the actual 9-1-1 commission report.

02:48:25.000 Do you think the evidence leans towards an inside job?

02:48:28.000 Yes, sir.

02:48:31.000 Alright, incredible.

02:48:32.000 Mr. Watson, anything else?

02:48:34.000 Um, well yes, uh, if you would let me stay on after the broadcast... Stay there real quick.

02:48:37.000 We're already in the final segment.

02:48:39.000 I'll try to jam a few more calls in, too.

02:48:41.000 This is an incredible interview.

02:48:42.000 Thank you, Dr. Rocky, for joining us.

02:48:44.000 Stay there.

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02:52:11.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

02:52:12.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:52:16.000 Dr. Rocky, would you like to make any other statements or comments about September 11th as more and more people go public about it being an inside job?

02:52:24.000 I mean, you just said it all there, but any other key points you'd like to add?

02:52:28.000 I think it's pretty clear.

02:52:28.000 Not really.

02:52:29.000 I think right now what we must do The United States Department of Defense, now the British Ministry of Defense, and now Israelis are using illegal weapons against civilians and everybody else in the military.

02:52:41.000 They must clean it up as required by their own directives.

02:52:44.000 They must provide medical care.

02:52:46.000 I have contacted Prime Minister Olmert.

02:52:48.000 You have the response from him.

02:52:50.000 I think you can post it on your website.

02:52:52.000 You know, so they know the warnings.

02:52:53.000 I've contacted the President of the United States, members of the Department of Defense.

02:52:57.000 I was told by a senior leader in the Pentagon That they all know what the problems are, they just don't care.

02:53:02.000 There is no accountability anymore.

02:53:04.000 The American public and the citizens of the world must take accountability.

02:53:08.000 Well, I agree, Dr. Rockey, and if Bayer will knowingly kill hundreds of thousands with HIV, and they'll knowingly spread DU everywhere, I mean, that fits into them killing 2,800 plus people on 9-11, do you agree?

02:53:20.000 Yeah, I think it comes together.

02:53:21.000 What's happened as a scientist in the university type, You know, a military officer... Scientists and engineers never forget about one thing.

02:53:27.000 Yeah, technology might be there, but that doesn't mean we use technology without considering the long-term health and environmental consequences.

02:53:34.000 I saw a San Francisco Chronicle report where they were talking to an Air Force General at a press conference.

02:53:38.000 He admitted they're developing antimatter bombs, and they admitted the top scientists, physicists, are telling him that it could destroy the whole planet, but they're going to go ahead and test it.

02:53:47.000 They don't care.

02:53:48.000 It's like, if you can get a dollar, we're going to do it, and if you want to sustain your job, you'll do it.

02:53:52.000 I made my conscious decision.

02:53:55.000 Would I go along with the nonsense or would I speak out and do what was right for God and the citizens of the world?

02:54:00.000 Myself and a whole bunch of us are doing what's right because this is flat wrong.

02:54:04.000 And we must obtain total accountability again and stop the nonsense.

02:54:08.000 Before everybody goes under.

02:54:10.000 They're totally contaminating God's backyard.

02:54:13.000 That is absolutely unacceptable.

02:54:15.000 I agree with you.

02:54:16.000 Mr. Watson, finish up.

02:54:17.000 Let me get one more caller in here. 0.99

02:54:19.000 Go ahead.

02:54:20.000 Okay, okay.

02:54:21.000 Here's why I'm putting out a challenge to all the listeners.

02:54:24.000 Okay?

02:54:24.000 Because you have done the work, Alex.

02:54:26.000 All the scientists, all the professors, they have done the research.

02:54:30.000 The whistleblowers are coming out.

02:54:32.000 I challenge not just the listeners, but also the people in Hollywood to donate to your cause, to put this out mainstream.

02:54:40.000 I am contributing $1,115 to your campaign.

02:54:44.000 Okay, that on November 15th... Hold on, my campaign what?

02:54:48.000 Just to get the information out there, buy more bandwidth, print more DVDs... Well, you're awesome, but listen, I would just ask you to do this.

02:54:48.000 What campaign?

02:54:55.000 I would just ask you to buy a bunch of Terror Storms and then burn copies of those and give them to people.

02:55:01.000 The most effective thing is for you at the ground level, and that's wonderful, but you notice I'm not like everybody else who asks for contributions.

02:55:08.000 Contribute by buying a bunch of videos.

02:55:10.000 We do need your support.

02:55:12.000 Buy a hundred videos from me today, bro.

02:55:14.000 That's how you can support me.

02:55:15.000 I will buy a hundred videos.

02:55:17.000 I challenge other people to do the same.

02:55:20.000 Okay, well thank you so much for that support.

02:55:23.000 I met you and your brother and his girlfriend.

02:55:25.000 You're really great guys and God bless you.

02:55:27.000 Really nice folks up there in Chicago.

02:55:27.000 Take care.

02:55:30.000 Dr. Rocky, I don't even know if I have time to go to calls now.

02:55:32.000 I mean, here in closing, I just want to thank you for your courage and all you've done.

02:55:37.000 And I think we can come through this together, but we've got people that will use DU and carry out 9-11 running our government.

02:55:43.000 What do you think they'll do next?

02:55:46.000 God only knows and we must pray.

02:55:49.000 We pray that we survive and that we stop the nonsense.

02:55:53.000 Well, we see elites throughout history kind of go crazy on a power trip.

02:55:56.000 Do you think that's happened?

02:55:58.000 Yes, sir, I do.

02:56:00.000 All right.

02:56:00.000 Well, we've got all the links up to the great articles and documents you've been putting out in your letter to Olmert.

02:56:04.000 We'll do a report on this, sir.

02:56:06.000 And Godspeed.

02:56:07.000 And thank you for coming on on short notice, Doctor.

02:56:11.000 Thank you, sir.

02:56:11.000 And God bless America.

02:56:13.000 Because if we don't follow God, we're all bound to die.

02:56:16.000 Yes, sir.

02:56:17.000 Thank you.

02:56:18.000 Wow!

02:56:19.000 Oh, man!

02:56:21.000 Oh, it's unbelievable!

02:56:21.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - July 26, 2006

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