Alex Jones Show - 20060817_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:00:34.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.

00:00:36.000 It is the 17th of August, 2006.

00:00:42.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:45.000 We'll get into all the fear-mongering that Alberto Gonzalez and Michael Chertoff, both dual citizens of different countries, are doing to scare the population into accepting a new reign of total terror and control. 0.69

00:01:02.000 More on my prediction of government-sponsored terror by late October, unless we warn the world, which is now starting to happen.

00:01:09.000 Good job.

00:01:09.000 Keep it up, folks.

00:01:12.000 Also, what the supposed ceasefire is doing over in the Middle East, in Lebanon and northern Israel.

00:01:20.000 Coming up in the second hour, really, the American Union news has gotten off of the front burner, unfortunately.

00:01:29.000 and the fact that uh... the census reports that cities like new york are sixty plus percent foreigners and illegal aliens and almost every other major city in the u.s.

00:01:40.000 is majority foreigner that trends only accelerating not decelerating or reversing and how that ties into his freedom of information act request and some of the documents he's gotten some of the documents they've refused to give Jerome Corsi in his fight to expose the American Union.

00:02:01.000 You see, I've been trying to expose the American Union for 12 years and we've had, oh, it's got to be 30, 40, 50 guests on just the last couple years on the subject, but a lot of people didn't pay attention to us.

00:02:13.000 You know, we talk about the Federal Reserve being private and vaccines being bad for you and most conservative leaders not really being conservative, so the La La Land fake conservatives won't listen to us, but

00:02:26.000 When a neocon lord like Jerome Corsi finally reads the documents and decides to do reports on it, finally America now admits it's real and going on, and Lou Dobbs, an establishment type, admits it's going on, and Glenn Beck admits it's going on, and the Associated Press admits it's going on, well then we can finally have a real discussion.

00:02:53.000 The U.S.

00:02:53.000 is being Broken up, right now, officially.

00:02:57.000 Still, the general public isn't aware of it, but some are learning of it.

00:03:02.000 And so that's coming up in the second hour, and there's been a lot of new things he's learned, a lot of big stories he's been breaking.

00:03:08.000 He's doing some good work on that subject, and so Mr. Corsi will be joining us in the second hour.

00:03:12.000 Then, Jonathan Mosley, His family runs one of the biggest neocon publishing houses in the country.

00:03:22.000 They're the folks that put out the Swift Boat books.

00:03:27.000 Again, I'm not for Kerry, folks.

00:03:29.000 I'm just pointing out this guy's tied in with these operatives.

00:03:32.000 Jonathan Mosley wrote a really venomous, savage hit piece against myself and others, and said some things in here that I don't think will stand up to scrutiny.

00:03:47.000 9-1-1 Bush Bashers is his archetypal neocon hit piece against me, where I'm called the key conspiracy leader. 0.87

00:03:59.000 I've run the whole thing and I'm particularly un-American and disgusting and horrible and profane. 0.75

00:04:09.000 Says, I'm profaning the deaths of the 3,000.

00:04:11.000 Well, if I was one of the 3,000 that was killed, I'd want those that killed me to be brought to justice, whether you even believe the official story.

00:04:19.000 It's Osama Bin Laden.

00:04:20.000 They say they're not looking for him anymore.

00:04:22.000 Number three at the CIA says they don't want him.

00:04:25.000 Of course, he didn't carry out the attacks.

00:04:28.000 He couldn't carry out the attacks.

00:04:30.000 But the point is, this feller will be joining us in the third hour.

00:04:38.000 So we'll be talking to him.

00:04:43.000 And I'm going to try to be controlled.

00:04:47.000 We'll see.

00:04:48.000 I've normally got my tie loosened by the third hour.

00:04:53.000 It's the fire breathing hour.

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00:08:17.000 Alright, coming up in the third hour today, we have Jonathan Mosley wrote this really vicious 9-11 hit piece on my shelf and others.

00:08:27.000 And I appreciate him having the courage to come on the show.

00:08:31.000 He'll be joining us coming up in the third hour today.

00:08:34.000 We will have open phones during the broadcast as well.

00:08:38.000 I want to talk some about the American Union and the open borders.

00:08:43.000 We've been so busy talking about government stage terror attacks that are looming and the ongoing conflict in the Middle East that we're not really looking at The public signing of the Security and Prosperity Partnership and what that means to our society.

00:09:00.000 Here are some of the latest articles out on the subject, just from Human Events alone.

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00:09:21.000 21st Century Slave Trade, the Guest Worker Amnesty, we'll be getting into that report.

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00:09:33.000 And we'll get more into the La Reconquista Movement, Mexico's plan for the American Southwest from their own statements, from their own admissions.

00:09:47.000 In a minute though, I'm going to get into Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez is saying that literally terrorists are everywhere and that they are just on the verge.

00:09:57.000 They're in every neighborhood.

00:09:58.000 They're preparing to strike.

00:10:00.000 Just get ready.

00:10:01.000 It's total doom, total destruction.

00:10:04.000 I talked to a family friend yesterday and I'm not supposed to tell you the name of the funeral home I'm not supposed to tell you any of the details.

00:10:18.000 People just like to tell me stuff like this and then say that we've all got to basically cower down and let it all happen.

00:10:27.000 As if that's going to stop anything.

00:10:29.000 Because, and again, people will freely admit all this and then tell you that, oh, no, it's okay, you can tell people about this.

00:10:37.000 It's not secret.

00:10:39.000 But Americans today, even people that I know personally, for many years, still feel like, well, that you're just not supposed to talk about it.

00:10:48.000 You're not supposed to talk about horrible things when you confirm it.

00:10:52.000 It has to do with the plan here in Austin and every other major city to put the dead bodies in the makeshift morgue.

00:11:02.000 And can you guess what the makeshift morgue is going to be after the terror attack they say that is sure to happen?

00:11:09.000 It is the North Cross Mall ice skating rink.

00:11:15.000 And a lot of you just tuned in and you're saying, what are you talking about Alex Jones?

00:11:19.000 Well, I'll tell you a little bit later after we cover some news in this hour exactly what I'm getting at here.

00:11:25.000 I want to give you time to call your friends and family and your co-workers and your neighbors and tell them to tune in right now whether you're listening on an AM or FM station, shortwave, the internet, or satellite.

00:11:41.000 Because this is important and it meshes in with all the other data I have in front of me.

00:11:46.000 And I've already independently confirmed what you're going to hear.

00:11:52.000 But it's just when you then get it even in your town you live in, when you hear the type of stuff that you've read that's been going on nationally, it just lets you know how serious the globalists are and what they'd like to do to you and your family.

00:12:11.000 The world is going to be a-changin' in a big way, for the worse, unless we get the word out about the bad people that are running our government.

00:12:21.000 And, you know, the neocon zombie followers seem to think it's because we hate George Bush.

00:12:30.000 And, yeah, they're right to a certain extent. 0.83

00:12:33.000 The crust, the very thin veneer at the surface, I mean I don't like George Bush, I don't like Bill Clinton, I detest people like Hillary and Chuckie Schumer and folks of that ilk, but I mean I hate all puppets of the New World Order.

00:12:54.000 I detest elitists that can care less about our freedoms and our futures. 0.70

00:12:59.000 But no, it's not because we're all evil, mindless, Democrat liberals that we just mindlessly hate George Bush. 0.83

00:13:08.000 I mean, I hear these callers.

00:13:09.000 I heard one this morning on a national neocon show with a voice just like this, I just don't understand it. 0.77

00:13:16.000 Bush is trying to save America and these evil Bush haters They just are horrible.

00:13:24.000 And they don't want to defend our country.

00:13:26.000 I don't know why they want to bring it down.

00:13:29.000 And I just don't know how they don't see how the great man George Bush is and everything he's doing to defend our country.

00:13:38.000 And I just, you know, these liberals out there like Jimmy Carter, they just want to bring this country down.

00:13:45.000 They just need to shut up. 0.73

00:13:47.000 They're aiding Al Qaeda. 0.96

00:13:50.000 I learned yesterday from two separate eyewitnesses that two different national radio shows were equating my shelf with Al-Qaeda.

00:13:58.000 One of them, Laura Ingram.

00:14:01.000 Yeah, Alex Jones!

00:14:03.000 He's got the same mindset as Al-Qaeda! 0.90

00:14:07.000 One of my employees, one of my officers in the fight against the New World Order heard this.

00:14:15.000 He's just flipping around the radio at lunch and there it is.

00:14:19.000 And then I talked to another friend who heard it on a separate show.

00:14:23.000 So they get their daily talking points, I guess, and... That Alex Jones, he's with Al Qaeda!

00:14:31.000 And there are hit pieces out there, over and over again.

00:14:34.000 This is how we aid Al Qaeda, see? 0.99

00:14:36.000 We're really...

00:14:38.000 We're really announcing the government's going to launch a terror attack so that when Al-Qaeda strikes the U.S.

00:14:46.000 Al-Qaeda's in control of us, you see, according to the media now.

00:14:50.000 So when Al-Qaeda hits the United States, we'll think it's Bush.

00:14:55.000 Yes!

00:14:56.000 Oh! 0.60

00:14:57.000 Absolutely, that's, that, boy, you've caught us now.

00:15:01.000 Hold on, hold on, I'm, ring, ring, I'm getting a call.

00:15:03.000 Yes, Mr. Bin Laden.

00:15:05.000 What am I, oh, okay, say Bush is going to carry out the terror attack.

00:15:10.000 Why, why, why, Mr. Bin Laden?

00:15:14.000 Oh, really, sir?

00:15:15.000 Oh, because then we'll blame it on him.

00:15:18.000 Oh, you're such a genius.

00:15:19.000 Oh, thank you.

00:15:20.000 Oh, yes, worshipful.

00:15:22.000 Oh, thank you, master.

00:15:23.000 Oh, click, oh, I talked to my master.

00:15:26.000 I mean, come on!

00:15:30.000 But this is their new tactic, and believe me, a lot of the general public is so, not even dumbed down, they're so focused on mindlessness, they're so focused on baloney, their brains are so filled with disinformation, and they associate their whole psyche with the disinfo.

00:15:48.000 That's who they are, that's their identity.

00:15:51.000 That they hear that I'm with Al-Qaeda, folks, and they hear that I'm supporting Al-Qaeda, they believe it! 1.00

00:15:59.000 Oh, that Alex Jones!

00:16:00.000 I heard about him!

00:16:01.000 He's the one that's with Al-Qaeda! 0.99

00:16:03.000 You know, I wasn't joking over the years when I kept saying, you know, you're for freedom, you're with Al-Qaeda! 0.82

00:16:09.000 Now, whenever you complain about a warrantless break into your house, or the police rubber-bulleting an innocent crowd, they now just say, well, you know, it's post-9-11.

00:16:20.000 We need to do this to keep you safe.

00:16:21.000 You don't want Al-Qaeda to get us.

00:16:23.000 You're not with Al-Qaeda.

00:16:25.000 And then it's metastasized and warped and mutated into, you're aiding Al-Qaeda. 0.58

00:16:33.000 Everything aids Al-Qaeda now. 0.96

00:16:35.000 Selling knock-off Rubik's Cubes aids Al-Qaeda. 0.90

00:16:38.000 Homeless people sleeping on benches charge under Patriot Act.

00:16:41.000 Al-Qaeda.

00:16:41.000 Pot dealers.

00:16:42.000 You've seen the national TV ads.

00:16:44.000 Marijuana aids Al-Qaeda.

00:16:46.000 Everything's Al-Qaeda! 0.74

00:16:48.000 Except for those that really are Al-Qaeda, the bowels of the military-industrial complex that created these organizations, that control them seven ways to Sunday. 0.51

00:17:01.000 We've got the evidence in quadruple-triplicate.

00:17:04.000 I mean, it's just amazing.

00:17:07.000 But it doesn't matter to the neocons.

00:17:08.000 They can just get in World Net Daily and just say, well, they claim Bin Laden's CIA.

00:17:11.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 0.99

00:17:34.000 You see, they know people don't read today's newspaper, much less go pull them off the microfiche at the library from 20 years ago.

00:17:44.000 And so if perception is reality... You see, the globalists know that.

00:17:51.000 They're into hoaxes.

00:17:52.000 They're into frauds.

00:17:54.000 And most of their minions are well-meaning people.

00:17:57.000 I would imagine that Jonathan Mosley, who we've got scheduled in the third hour if he shows up, and I'm sure he will, I mean, he probably believes all this stuff and really thinks I'm a demon.

00:18:08.000 What's the word here?

00:18:10.000 Profane.

00:18:12.000 I'm profaning the memory of the 3,000 victims.

00:18:16.000 No, I'm not.

00:18:18.000 And the evidence shows I'm not.

00:18:19.000 I'm trying to save lives.

00:18:22.000 Because the people that did 9-11 are going to keep on doing it as long as we give them power out of it.

00:18:28.000 Later in the show, I got about a four-minute clip that a caller called in about this yesterday and I'd read about it, I hadn't seen it.

00:18:34.000 Last night I came across the local newscast of peaceful protesters not doing anything wrong, peacefully gathered, and the police department there in Florida just start shooting them with rubber bullets and laughing while they do it.

00:18:51.000 And then the deputy police chief's in there, one of the top captains, And he's just having a huge celebration.

00:18:59.000 He's saying, good job team.

00:19:00.000 It was funny how you shot that woman in the face. 1.00

00:19:03.000 Good job!

00:19:04.000 And then, he does it right in front of a whole tent of news cameras.

00:19:09.000 I mean, they have public celebrations now.

00:19:13.000 About, and you can go watch the video.

00:19:14.000 We're going to get it posted on Infowars.com.

00:19:20.000 You can find it all over the web though.

00:19:22.000 I was sent it in several emails.

00:19:23.000 Thanks to listeners doing that.

00:19:25.000 And it was humiliating to know that America has gone from land of the free, home of the brave, where cops used to step and fetch it for the American people a hundred years ago.

00:19:36.000 And they got on Mafia payroll about 80 years ago and the rest is history.

00:19:44.000 I mean, just a giant tent of hundreds of people in Darth Vader uniforms.

00:19:47.000 I mean, it's Darth Vader outfits. 0.51

00:19:50.000 Just laughing about shooting a woman in the face for no reason.

00:19:53.000 And the news puts it on and goes, this is normal.

00:19:55.000 Yeah.

00:19:56.000 Nice.

00:19:57.000 Just keep doing what you're doing, boys.

00:19:59.000 Keep doing it.

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00:24:10.000 Every time there is an anti-free trade open border demonstration with liberals and conservatives together, anywhere in this country, the police are ordered to go out and aim at peaceful protesters.

00:24:24.000 We've got photos and videos of wooden dowels sticking out of people's bodies.

00:24:28.000 Folks die every year in this country from these rubber bullets and wooden bullets.

00:24:32.000 And you've got lawyers out in their business suits just standing there with a sign, the cops just, from about 30 feet away, shooting with rubber bullets, blood spilling out all over the place, and you can hear the cops laughing.

00:24:42.000 Ha! 0.89

00:24:43.000 Ha! 0.89

00:24:44.000 Man, this is fun!

00:24:45.000 Ha! 0.89

00:24:47.000 People hitting the ground, blood all pouring out of their eyes in some cases.

00:24:50.000 And the cops are, Ha!

00:24:51.000 Ha! 0.89

00:24:52.000 Ha! 0.89

00:24:52.000 It's like a roar of, Ha! 0.89

00:24:54.000 Ha! 0.89

00:24:54.000 We're jolly green, giants, and dressed up in ring-wraith outfits, ruling the land of the cowards and home of the slaves. 0.89

00:25:03.000 Ha! 0.89

00:25:05.000 And then a woman tries to, please stop shooting me, puts up the little sign in front of her face. 1.00

00:25:10.000 They shoot a rubber bullet right through it into the face.

00:25:14.000 And then later it shows one of the police commanders going, good job men, I like to tell you, shot her right through the sign in the face.

00:25:21.000 They're all, alright, did we get a piece of redress?

00:25:24.000 Ha ha ha!

00:25:25.000 Yeah!

00:25:26.000 They're in a big tent with all these news cameras.

00:25:28.000 You see, what was done in secret is now Hey, we run these cities.

00:25:33.000 Our union runs this city.

00:25:35.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:25:36.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

00:25:39.000 Half of us are on the mafia cake now.

00:25:41.000 What do you think we do here in Miami?

00:25:43.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

00:25:44.000 No one points out that we live in half million and million dollar houses on $50,000 salaries.

00:25:49.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

00:25:52.000 When we go in the topless bars, the owner gives us girls immediately. 0.99

00:25:56.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

00:25:57.000 You live in Nazi Germany now!

00:25:59.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

00:26:00.000 We'll laugh about it right in front of you! 1.00

00:26:02.000 Ha ha ha ha ha!

00:26:03.000 I mean, you know, this is what corruption is.

00:26:08.000 This mentality, this idea, this is what the New World Order is all about.

00:26:16.000 And that's why they're training you to be slaves in the airports. 1.00

00:26:18.000 That's why they make it ridiculously stupid to where you know it's dumb, but still you submit. 1.00

00:26:25.000 Still you dump out the baby milk. 1.00

00:26:28.000 Still you throw away the lipstick.

00:26:31.000 Still, oh and by the way, we did learn, it is in the news, and they got caught, it was in mainstream news two days ago, they are selling on eBay your lighters, your tweezers, in some cases your hundred dollar pocket knives, they are selling your unopened champagne, they are selling your wine.

00:26:52.000 Those little creatures are stealing it. 1.00

00:26:55.000 And of course they lied, it was on national news.

00:26:57.000 Don't worry, we throw it all away!

00:26:59.000 And then, where is that article?

00:27:01.000 It was in a major newspaper.

00:27:04.000 Comes out and says, oh no, actually, the TSA, Homeland Security, now sells on eBay!

00:27:10.000 How nice!

00:27:14.000 See, just setting the precedent right out.

00:27:17.000 By the way, so-called less lethal weapons, or non-lethal weapons, their true term, less lethal crowd control weapons, The plan is they're training the police with rubber bullets now.

00:27:30.000 Open fire!

00:27:32.000 These are a training aid to fire real bullets into crowds in the near future.

00:27:40.000 That's all it is and it's also training for the public to get accustomed to the images of people being hit and blood spilling.

00:27:47.000 We remember the girl, what was her name, up in Up in Boston a couple years ago, oh how quickly we forget, and she just walked out of a bar.

00:28:03.000 She was getting ready to graduate from college.

00:28:06.000 She was on the top of her class.

00:28:08.000 They're always on the top of their class.

00:28:09.000 I'm going to pull that.

00:28:10.000 Guys, pull the one. 0.95

00:28:11.000 It was at the end of a baseball game.

00:28:15.000 And the cops called it a riot, just people wouldn't get off the streets at 2 a.m.

00:28:19.000 They said, that's it, the bars are closed, and so everybody's leaving the bars, and here come the Darth Vader police, they've been given all this federal gear, they've been given training, and they block off a bunch of streets, and by the way, I've seen it in Austin, they don't let you get away, and then they just open fire and kill that young girl!

00:28:35.000 Big pool of blood there!

00:28:38.000 Wait till you hear these cops. 0.85

00:28:46.000 It's so much fun!

00:28:51.000 Grab them before us forces!

00:28:53.000 It's like a bunch of orcs or something.

00:28:55.000 Lord of the Rings.

00:28:56.000 I mean you guys are really turned into animals.

00:28:59.000 By the way police, do you think you're safe in a society where the government that lets you do this? 0.96

00:29:03.000 Why do you think you're being trained like this pea brains?

00:29:06.000 Because America's going into bondage. 0.74

00:29:10.000 And you and your $35,000 to $50,000 a year, you're going to be in deep trouble.

00:29:16.000 And your daughters and your sons are going to grow up like slaves.

00:29:20.000 But don't worry, you'll teach them how to wear black uniforms and red armbands and salute the American Union flag.

00:29:26.000 But still, you're not going to be in a good place.

00:29:29.000 You're not going to be in a good place and nobody's going to help you.

00:29:35.000 But don't worry.

00:29:38.000 There'll be more and more riots and problems and you can gun down more girls and not get in trouble. 1.00

00:29:43.000 You can shoot young ladies, 22-year-olds, right in the face and watch their eyes splatter. 0.99

00:29:51.000 We're on the march. 1.00

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:55.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:27.000 We've got this guest joining us who wrote the big 9-11 hit piece on the 9-11 Scholars for Truth and myself, Jonathan Mosley, coming up in the third hour today.

00:33:44.000 And of course, we're going to be taking your phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:33:51.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:33:52.000 In about two or three minutes, I'm going to play the unedited news clip.

00:33:59.000 By unedited, the only thing we haven't cut out is a cuss word.

00:34:02.000 We did cut that out.

00:34:04.000 One thing that is edited.

00:34:06.000 uh... from the latest protests down in Miami and this has been repeated the last few years anytime they protest against the free trade area of the Americas or any of these deals the police got in trouble what three years ago because they even beat up some federal a federal judge and his wife what the cops would do is direct protesters down alleys and then just beat the daylights out of them they beat up some reporters but see they didn't get in trouble for that

00:34:36.000 So now they just shoot women in the face for no reason.

00:34:39.000 It's all on video.

00:34:41.000 We just posted it, by the way, on JonesReport.com.

00:34:44.000 It's all over the web.

00:34:45.000 We've got some of our comments there in the video posted.

00:34:48.000 JonesReport.com.

00:34:49.000 It's not on InfoWars.com.

00:34:51.000 It's on JonesReport.com.

00:34:54.000 A lot of times you'll find news on JonesReport.com that isn't on InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

00:35:01.000 So that's come up in a few minutes.

00:35:02.000 And I want to talk about this Time Magazine Headline, anti-terror, why we're still vulnerable.

00:35:10.000 The same, similar headline from Newsweek.

00:35:13.000 Newsweek, terror now!

00:35:16.000 They want you to know this isn't five years ago, this is now!

00:35:18.000 You've got to be afraid now!

00:35:20.000 You've got to give your rights up now!

00:35:22.000 There's going to be even more control now!

00:35:25.000 We're going to put you in biometric lie detectors.

00:35:27.000 We're going to scan your brain at the airports.

00:35:29.000 We're going to search you now! 0.99

00:35:30.000 We're going to yell at you now!

00:35:33.000 For your own good, now!

00:35:36.000 We're going to do lots of things you're not going to like now to keep you safe.

00:35:40.000 Because we don't want the terrorists to get you.

00:35:41.000 We've got to change the way you live your lives.

00:35:44.000 Because you're not safe.

00:35:45.000 You're in danger.

00:35:46.000 See, that's terrorism.

00:35:48.000 Do what I say or something bad's going to happen.

00:35:50.000 Give up all your rights to me and don't question me or that bad man's going to get you.

00:35:55.000 That's terrorism.

00:35:56.000 That's the old classic definition.

00:35:58.000 Right in front of everyone.

00:35:59.000 They're engaging in terrorism.

00:36:03.000 Now, even if you don't believe the criminal elements of the government are staging terror attacks, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we know that everything they're doing to quote fight it has nothing to do with keeping us safe, and everything to do with getting control of our lives, and robbing us blind, and robbing the treasury.

00:36:22.000 Terror now!

00:36:24.000 Someone gets into some of these articles and, Alberto Gonzales, terrorists are living in our neighborhoods!

00:36:29.000 He said that they're everywhere, they could be baby bombers!

00:36:34.000 Don't trust anyone and there's a new discovery of a new strain of H5N1.

00:36:38.000 I should have told you about the plan to put everybody on ice who dies from this right here in Austin using the skating rink, the ice rink.

00:36:52.000 I'll tell you directly what we got from one of the, I'm going to say one of the, it really is the, but Let's say a very big national funeral home talking to one of the head honchos over there.

00:37:05.000 Of course, we already knew this, but just to actually hear it locally from someone else who was told it by the feds, taken to a big seminar with the feds there.

00:37:17.000 Oh, the government loves you so much they wouldn't hurt you.

00:37:22.000 Don't listen to me, I'm bad.

00:37:25.000 I'm not patriotic.

00:37:26.000 I might be with Al-Qaeda. 0.97

00:37:28.000 Just let them get rid of our sovereignty. 0.98

00:37:30.000 One little more gun control is actually conservative.

00:37:35.000 Let's go ahead and bankrupt the Treasury.

00:37:36.000 All that's good.

00:37:37.000 Don't listen to me.

00:37:40.000 Just the government's good.

00:37:42.000 It doesn't lie.

00:37:43.000 Al-Qaeda's the threat, not the government. 0.54

00:37:46.000 Of course, it doesn't matter if Al-Qaeda really is the government.

00:37:48.000 It doesn't matter.

00:37:52.000 Okay, so I'll get into the plan in Austin to put the dead people on the ice rink in every other major city.

00:37:59.000 That's your main morgue.

00:38:01.000 And we'll then get into the fake terror alerts and play the clip.

00:38:07.000 The clip of police having celebrations over shooting unarmed innocent women who are peacefully, legally, lawfully, rightfully, dutifully demonstrating. 0.96

00:38:18.000 Land of the slave, home of the coward.

00:38:21.000 Land of the shackled, home of the surveilled. 0.97

00:38:23.000 I mean, that's where we are now.

00:38:24.000 Worldwide known as that. 1.00

00:38:27.000 Shut up, scum! 1.00

00:38:28.000 You're still on the radio! 1.00

00:38:29.000 And you shouldn't be on!

00:38:31.000 I've had these people call in to this show, and now on my Sunday show I do on Kelby Jay, they'll call in and go, You're making all this up!

00:38:37.000 You've got freedom to be on the air, but I don't think you should be!

00:38:41.000 But wait, I thought you guys were for freedom.

00:38:43.000 I think you should be taken off the air!

00:38:46.000 But, but, but the country's still free, though, huh?

00:38:50.000 There's lots of talk now by the neocon radio host and TV people and blogs that we should be restricted in our speech, spewing this type of sedition, I mean.

00:39:01.000 Getting up here and actually defending the Republic.

00:39:05.000 When we've almost got it down on its knees, stop those people! 0.66

00:39:09.000 Okay, so it's all coming up, but right now, we haven't had her on in a week or two.

00:39:16.000 Almost two weeks, Demi Morrow.

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00:39:41.000 We're always honored to have her with us.

00:39:43.000 Debbie, I bet you've been busy lately.

00:39:45.000 Hi there, Alex.

00:39:46.000 I have been very, very busy.

00:39:49.000 So busy I haven't even been able to hear what's going on with your, you know, show.

00:39:55.000 And so I've had some of the customers keep me informed a little bit.

00:40:00.000 Well, Debbie, we need everybody to call you right now and tell us about the different units.

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00:40:09.000 I think the main reason you need a A water filter like a Berkey is so that you can take care of yourself every single day, not wait for emergency.

00:40:18.000 Around the 8th of August, there were 120,000 citizens in the San Diego area that were exposed to E. coli in their main water system.

00:40:33.000 But that's nutritious!

00:40:34.000 It's like mercury!

00:40:37.000 Well, yeah, okay, no, it's not.

00:40:40.000 tried their best to notify the residents, but most of the residents didn't even find out about it until it had already been cleared up.

00:40:47.000 So if you have a Berkey water filter and you're Berking your water every day and, you know, drinking the Berkey water, you won't be affected by things like E. coli in your water because you never know when there's going to be a crack in a water maze.

00:41:02.000 Well, there's always E. coli in the water if it's a city water supply of any size.

00:41:07.000 It's just that the high levels of chlorine kill the microorganisms.

00:41:13.000 What do you think that chlorine does to your cell structures?

00:41:16.000 We are a colony of cells, whereas a bacteria is a single cell organism.

00:41:22.000 This is very toxic and very bad for your kidneys, very bad for your bladder, and very bad for your blood and your entire system.

00:41:30.000 I mean, look, I can't stress enough that you guys got the best filters out there, made in America, at discounted prices.

00:41:35.000 And, you know, forget there being a sewer spill, or a hurricane, or a nuke go off.

00:41:41.000 You know, that's all the reasons to have it.

00:41:42.000 But the real reason is, every day that water's full of trash, and it's time to stop drinking it.

00:41:47.000 That's right.

00:41:48.000 That is the main reason.

00:41:49.000 And so we'd like to go ahead and, you know, get those orders in.

00:41:54.000 And if you could just leave a message, we will gladly return your call.

00:41:59.000 And I always look forward to talking to your listeners.

00:42:02.000 They do help keep me informed.

00:42:05.000 Well, Debbie, by the way, you called the office and said, are you allowed to come to our Dallas event?

00:42:09.000 You know, you better be there.

00:42:10.000 I was really hoping I could come.

00:42:13.000 Oh, you bet.

00:42:14.000 Listen, we'll give you whatever seats you want.

00:42:17.000 We'll probably take the third or fourth row, whatever a nice little prime area is, and have a few seats saved for folks like yourself.

00:42:25.000 So I certainly want to see you there, nine days from now on the 26th.

00:42:30.000 Coming up not this Saturday but next Saturday.

00:42:32.000 Well I'm really looking forward to being there and I sure hope I get to meet a lot of the people that I speak to on the phone.

00:42:39.000 So I want to encourage everybody to come and it's going to be a great time.

00:42:44.000 Looking forward to it.

00:42:45.000 You bet daddy.

00:42:46.000 It's going to be, I guess we'll open the place about 645.

00:42:48.000 We'll start at about 715 and we're going to show Terror Storm and then we're going to have Jim Marsh speak.

00:42:54.000 I'm going to speak.

00:42:55.000 Then we're going to show footage I shot at the Bilderberg Group up until about 11.30.

00:42:58.000 Then from about 11.30 on, we'll have a 20-minute intermission.

00:43:02.000 Then we're going to have some great local lounge singers. 1.00

00:43:04.000 But whether you come for three hours or all seven hours, folks, it's $10.50, and that basically lets us break even.

00:43:12.000 We've got a very low price, and tickets are available at Infowars.com.

00:43:16.000 But that's not why you're here with us, Debbie.

00:43:18.000 Let me, again, invite Everyone to call Debbie right now.

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00:43:56.000 Debbie, good to hear from you.

00:43:57.000 Thank you.

00:43:58.000 Have a great day.

00:43:59.000 I'll see you not this weekend, but next weekend.

00:43:59.000 You bet.

00:44:02.000 Next weekend, thanks.

00:44:03.000 At the Lakewood Theater in Central Dallas, right by White Rock Lake.

00:44:03.000 You bet.

00:44:08.000 It was once called East Dallas, Central East, but now it's really Central Dallas.

00:44:13.000 Dallas has grown so much.

00:44:14.000 I was born about four blocks or five blocks away from this movie theater, and I haven't been back to that neighborhood, even though I grew up in Dallas.

00:44:24.000 I grew up right outside Dallas.

00:44:25.000 I haven't been back to see that house since I was about Maybe 10 years old?

00:44:31.000 So I'm going to go knock on the door Saturday afternoon before I go to the show.

00:44:38.000 Hey, I grew up in this house.

00:44:40.000 Mind if I come in?

00:44:42.000 They'll probably say no.

00:44:43.000 A few years ago I was up visiting family in Rockwall.

00:44:46.000 Went back to my old neighborhood and went and knocked on the door and I said, Hi!

00:44:51.000 I used to live here, right up in that bedroom right there.

00:44:54.000 I guess it's a dangerous world today.

00:44:55.000 We've been turned into evil heathens.

00:44:56.000 They said no and slammed the door.

00:44:59.000 But I guess it's a dangerous world today.

00:45:01.000 We've been turned into evil heathens.

00:45:03.000 Something people let you do 20 years ago, they won't let you do now.

00:45:07.000 But I am now digressing, so that's not what you tuned in for.

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00:45:27.000 Okay, let me get back to serious issues here.

00:45:32.000 Every year or so in Miami, if there's any type of anti-war or pro-homeless rally, where they've outlawed Miami and other cities like Tampa feeding homeless.

00:45:42.000 I mean, you can't go to the park and give them a hamburger.

00:45:45.000 They will arrest you and you'll be lucky if they don't knock your head in.

00:45:47.000 I mean, it happens.

00:45:49.000 When you've got a mafia-run police department, this happens.

00:45:52.000 It's always worse in places like Chicago and New York and Houston and Miami and places like that.

00:46:02.000 If you don't have a computer and can't go to JonesReport.com and watch this, this is just a few days ago, a repeat of what's happened in the past.

00:46:11.000 This is ABC News, interspersed with some activist footage, and this happened again just a few days ago.

00:46:20.000 Well, I guess it'd be seven days ago.

00:46:26.000 And there's a nice woman lawyer sitting there who they shoot once and she's complaining, why are you shooting me? 1.00

00:46:32.000 They're just peacefully there on the side of the sidewalk.

00:46:34.000 And if you listen carefully you can hear the police laughing.

00:46:37.000 And then she puts the sign up in front of her because they start shooting more.

00:46:40.000 The sign of fear gets a wolf going.

00:46:42.000 So they start firing again.

00:46:44.000 She puts the sign up.

00:46:45.000 It goes right through and hits her in the face.

00:46:47.000 And it shows some other people blood pouring out of their eyes.

00:46:50.000 The cops are hurraying.

00:46:52.000 And then it cuts to the police in the big tent with news cameras all over the place.

00:46:57.000 They know there's news cameras.

00:46:58.000 Having a huge celebration about how they're a football team and how they went out and won.

00:47:04.000 So go ahead and roll it.

00:47:05.000 Thank you.

00:47:19.000 A lady in a suit has been walking peaceably in front of you for a half an hour and you shot me with my back turned? 1.00

00:47:28.000 Well you all saw it.

00:47:29.000 You've been watching me for a half an hour.

00:47:32.000 Now you know I'm not armed.

00:47:34.000 He shot me.

00:47:35.000 There's this big welt on her.

00:47:38.000 If you listen carefully, you can hear the pops of the guns.

00:47:44.000 They're not as loud as regular firearms.

00:47:51.000 I mean, I'm scared now.

00:47:53.000 Ow! 1.00

00:47:54.000 What was that?

00:47:56.000 Why did you do that to us? 0.57

00:48:09.000 Here's hundreds of rubber bullets hitting him.

00:48:16.000 By this point there's this blood pouring.

00:48:33.000 Don't get around me, Mucky.

00:48:36.000 Let them see it. 1.00

00:48:40.000 Hit her in the face! 1.00

00:48:43.000 Hit her in the face! 1.00

00:48:50.000 So basically, it's police in Darth Vader outfits. 0.97

00:48:58.000 Oh, that one right here?

00:49:00.000 Put it on your website.

00:49:03.000 Oh yeah, hit pause.

00:49:04.000 Hit pause.

00:49:05.000 Right there.

00:49:06.000 Back it up about 20-15 seconds.

00:49:07.000 We'll play it after the segment.

00:49:10.000 And we'll take calls, folks.

00:49:11.000 We're going to have unlimited calls in the second hour.

00:49:14.000 Oh, I forgot.

00:49:17.000 It just shows the peaceful people there with the cops now up close shooting them with rubber bullets.

00:49:23.000 And there's other bicycle cops with them, and the people are bleeding, going, why do you do this to us?

00:49:27.000 Why do you do this?

00:49:28.000 Like, with humanity, going, why?

00:49:29.000 Why do you shoot us? 0.99

00:49:31.000 And the cops are just laughing, flipping them off, going, F you! 0.97

00:49:34.000 We had to cut that out, but we show the, you know, video.

00:49:37.000 Well, we actually left it on the website, but we cut it out here on the radio, and they're just flipping them off and laughing, and then they're just sitting there shotgunning them with rubber bullets, just, HA HA HA HA HA!

00:49:47.000 But the laughing's coming up!

00:49:49.000 You get to hear one of the police officials, just, it's a celebration of killing America!

00:49:54.000 I mean, you guys would have done well in the Soviet Union.

00:49:56.000 So go ahead and keep rolling it.

00:49:57.000 For this one!

00:50:04.000 Oh, that one right here?

00:50:06.000 Yeah, put it on your website!

00:50:10.000 That's all there is.

00:50:14.000 Hit pause here.

00:50:15.000 Hit pause here and when we come back we'll play it because now it cuts to the police in the tent.

00:50:20.000 So they're saying, why are you doing this to us?

00:50:22.000 Why are you doing this? 0.97

00:50:23.000 And the guy's going, F you!

00:50:24.000 Put it on your website! 0.80

00:50:25.000 Ha ha ha!

00:50:26.000 I mean, they know.

00:50:27.000 They're like, we will do whatever we want, whenever we want.

00:50:32.000 And these cops aren't even wearing masks, folks.

00:50:34.000 I mean, it's just, you're slaves. 0.98

00:50:37.000 It's basically like, you know, in The South or something with black people, where they can just beat blacks up in the street. 1.00

00:50:43.000 It's like, we're going to beat you up and we're going to laugh about it. 0.98

00:50:46.000 It's just, you know, this is the way it is.

00:50:49.000 You're going to learn to like it.

00:50:50.000 Here's my face.

00:50:51.000 Here's your camera.

00:50:52.000 We're shotgunning you and we're going to keep doing it. 0.99

00:50:55.000 We're going to blow your eyeballs out. 0.99

00:50:57.000 Okay? 0.98

00:50:58.000 Period. 1.00

00:50:59.000 We're going to kill people. 1.00

00:51:00.000 Period. 1.00

00:51:04.000 It's here!

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00:51:18.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

00:51:26.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

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00:53:56.000 Going up on Jones' report right now, Professor Stephen Jones gave us his statement on Jonathan Mosley's comments that Jones was calling for violent revolution. 0.73

00:54:20.000 Anyone who knows Professor Jones knows how ridiculous that statement is.

00:54:24.000 And we're going back right now into Jones's C-SPAN speech, and we've seen it many times.

00:54:29.000 We remember he never said that, but we're double-checking that right now.

00:54:32.000 But Jones is pretty upset about this, for as calm a person as he is.

00:54:37.000 We do have Jonathan Mosley coming on in the third hour to talk about this unbelievable 9-11 story he wrote about myself, Jones, Fetzer, and others.

00:54:48.000 I mean, it is savage.

00:54:50.000 And he's scheduled.

00:54:51.000 In fact, Kevin, I know he confirmed yesterday, but just call him and make sure he's coming on in the third hour.

00:54:59.000 Alright, getting back to this Miami footage.

00:55:01.000 This is the latest stuff.

00:55:02.000 This happens all the time.

00:55:03.000 I mean, again, three years ago they beat up federal judges.

00:55:06.000 You know, old men, old ladies, I mean, and they got in a little bit of trouble for that. 0.70

00:55:10.000 But now the cops know they can do whatever they want, and they're thugs.

00:55:14.000 And so here's one of their commanders with news cameras everywhere.

00:55:17.000 This is the disconnect, folks.

00:55:19.000 You see, now they're doing it out in the open.

00:55:22.000 Just bragging about, uh, hey, you see the woman with the sign? 0.99

00:55:26.000 I love, that's why I love watching you men on TV! 0.65

00:55:28.000 How you shot her in the face through the sign, and you hear them all laughing, and this is truly sick. 0.50

00:55:33.000 It's like a huge tent full of people in black uniforms. 0.96

00:55:36.000 They look like some evil army.

00:55:38.000 And here's this, there's this commander in a black uniform. 0.99

00:55:42.000 It's just so sick, and the things they're saying! 0.99

00:55:45.000 But again, they think it's normal, just shooting people in the face with rubber bullets. 0.78

00:55:50.000 Eyeballs hanging out, blood pouring out of eyes, and they're just laughing about it.

00:55:54.000 I mean, even cold-hearted, you know, armies, you don't laugh about it.

00:55:59.000 It's just so immature. 0.93

00:56:00.000 It's sick.

00:56:01.000 This is their manhood, though. 1.00

00:56:03.000 Shooting unarmed people or rubber bullets. 0.99

00:56:05.000 Go ahead and roll it. 0.58

00:56:08.000 The good news about being able to watch you guys live on TV is that lady with the red dress. 1.00

00:56:20.000 I don't know who got her, but when it went through the spine, it hit her smack dab in the middle of the neck. 0.99

00:56:32.000 I don't know what's going to happen today, but I'll echo some of the captain's thought.

00:56:39.000 I was on Metro Day before I went to BSL.

00:56:41.000 This is the first time I actually got to come down here and actually be part of a winning team.

00:56:45.000 Usually we got a round kick, okay?

00:56:47.000 So yesterday we won.

00:56:48.000 That's something to be proud of.

00:56:50.000 Let's go home undefeated, alright?

00:56:54.000 This is Elizabeth Ritter today, wearing the same red jacket after seeing and hearing the tape.

00:57:02.000 Very disappointed.

00:57:03.000 I was flabbergasted that an officer of the law would be trained in such a manner as to applaud and congratulate people for shooting a peaceful citizen in the head.

00:57:18.000 Major John Brooks, who led those briefings, was made available by the department to offer this.

00:57:23.000 We want to apologize for those remarks that were made, both about her and about the event.

00:57:28.000 You know, to say that we're sorry those remarks were made.

00:57:32.000 Brooks made headlines once before, riding into the van that was used to remove Elian Gonzalez from his relative's house in Little Havana.

00:57:41.000 Elizabeth Ritter says neither Brooks nor Sergeant Kelman has called to offer her that apology in person.

00:57:47.000 I would like to look at that officer.

00:57:49.000 I'd like to sit down at a table the way that I'm sitting down with you now and ask, why? 1.00

00:57:55.000 Because they're scum! 1.00

00:57:57.000 Listen, police commanders are scared of the police. 1.00

00:58:02.000 If they don't lick their boots, do everything they say, they get kicked out too.

00:58:02.000 Okay?

00:58:06.000 So see, it's all about appeasing.

00:58:08.000 It's an animal mob. 0.57

00:58:10.000 Okay?

00:58:12.000 I'm sorry, folks.

00:58:13.000 Again, I wasn't brought up to dislike police.

00:58:15.000 I dislike that mentality and those type of cops. 0.95

00:58:15.000 I still don't. 0.95

00:58:18.000 But that's the future of, quote, law enforcement.

00:58:21.000 Just a bunch of wimps.

00:58:23.000 Guaranteed, most of those guys are the type that would run away from a real situation. 0.97

00:58:28.000 Real men don't sit around shooting women for fun.

00:58:31.000 Let me explain that to these guys that are trying to be men.

00:58:35.000 That's not how you're a man, okay?

00:58:37.000 We can teach you how to be a man if you want.

00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

00:58:45.000 Big Brother.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:52.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:59.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:01.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:04.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Coming up in the next hour, we have Jonathan Mosley coming on with us.

00:59:21.000 He wrote 9-1-1 Bush Bashers.

00:59:26.000 And I want to read part of this article before he gets on with us later in this hour.

00:59:31.000 He calls us profane.

00:59:32.000 He says we're profaning the memory of 3,000 victims.

00:59:36.000 He basically claims that Professor Jones is a wild-eyed revolutionary calling for violent overthrow of the U.S.

00:59:44.000 government.

00:59:45.000 I've seen the tape over and over again.

00:59:46.000 It's not on there.

00:59:47.000 It's not true.

00:59:49.000 Jones is real mad right now about this, and so I'm trying to... I'm trying to figure... But I talked to Jonathan Mosley.

00:59:58.000 He sounds like a nice fella.

00:59:59.000 I just don't know...

01:00:00.000 Maybe he's getting it mixed up with me or something?

01:00:04.000 I mean, I do say that this may come to blows.

01:00:06.000 I mean, they're already attacking us.

01:00:08.000 We're laying there like jellyfish taking it.

01:00:11.000 But I'm just trying to figure out.

01:00:14.000 Fantastic.

01:00:15.000 What did you just say, Kevin?

01:00:18.000 OK, well, we'll get him on five after.

01:00:20.000 And then there's Professor Dr. Jerome Corsi, who was scheduled for the show today and then said an emergency had come up.

01:00:28.000 And now he is coming on.

01:00:31.000 So I told you we'd have open phones this hour, but I'm told Courtesy can only come on for 30 minutes, so we'll take calls immediately when we hit the bottom of the hour to get into the American Union, which is a very important subject.

01:00:45.000 And there have been a bunch of new breaking developments concerning my prediction of a government-sponsored terror attack by late October.

01:00:53.000 Some new developments there I want to get into, and again, you guys and gals out there are really getting the word out on this.

01:00:58.000 I can only commend you.

01:01:00.000 But without spending too much time on it, I want to get into it more later in the show, when of course he leaves us.

01:01:08.000 This is the key.

01:01:10.000 The criminals running the world are totally ruthless, and they need disasters, they need bird flus, they need smallpox, they need the threat of terrorism naturally occurring, or orchestrated by some group, as a pretext to get us to give up all of our liberties and go under total micromanagement.

01:01:28.000 And I got a bunch of articles out in the last week about how that bird flu is still going to get us.

01:01:33.000 It was supposed to kill us this winter.

01:01:35.000 We're now coming to the end of the summer.

01:01:38.000 Now it's going to kill us.

01:01:39.000 Now they've started to hype up again.

01:01:40.000 It's going to kill us this winter.

01:01:42.000 Top scientists, the heads of major governments, you know, the head biologist in Spain is saying it's a fraud.

01:01:49.000 That doesn't seem to matter.

01:01:49.000 You know, Tamiflu has made a couple billion off of it.

01:01:52.000 Well, excuse me, six billion now.

01:01:54.000 Rumsfeld, something like a hundred million himself.

01:01:57.000 That was last year.

01:01:58.000 I'm told it's more now.

01:02:00.000 So all of this is going on and we have the mainstream news articles.

01:02:07.000 We have the internal documents we posted.

01:02:11.000 Out of Pennsylvania, where in 13,000 plus counties, major preachers and pastors and priests have been recruited to tell their members, their parishioners, to turn their guns in, to take injections, to let their families be broken up.

01:02:26.000 This is all in the documents.

01:02:27.000 Remember, we majored in national news.

01:02:29.000 We made a few months ago with this, and some of the preachers did the rounds out there.

01:02:34.000 And then FEMA had to admit, yeah, we're training preachers to quote, help us pacify the public.

01:02:40.000 Well, I've also read little blurbs about how the government and the Associated Press was reporting we're recruiting morticians and recruiting funeral homes to mass cremate and store all the dead bodies, and they told them that upwards of 150 million Americans will probably die.

01:02:57.000 For those that just joined us or went to public school like myself, that is half the population of the United States, okay?

01:03:04.000 That's the government saying this will happen, not might.

01:03:07.000 I have mainstream articles saying it will.

01:03:10.000 Well, I happen to have a good family friend who was at a major funeral home Monday.

01:03:19.000 And I have the person's name, all the details, but I'm not at liberty to go into it, why I have no idea.

01:03:25.000 The person wasn't hiding it.

01:03:26.000 They were all freaked out.

01:03:28.000 But I'll briefly tell you about it on the other side.

01:03:30.000 Now again, we already know about this in the mainstream news, just not the full details.

01:03:35.000 Well, they plan to.

01:03:39.000 Take your dead bodies down and we'll tell you what we'll do with our dead bodies when we get back. 0.97

01:03:48.000 So stay with us. 0.99

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01:06:50.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

01:06:58.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:07:00.000 I tell you, Jerome Corsi is really an enigma to me because Dr. Corsi is very intelligent, very informed, does great research on NAFTA, GATT, the American Union, the open borders, the Chinese and others taking over our ports, the open borders, the Chinese and others taking over our ports, the But then when it gets to the war on terror, he buys into that.

01:07:24.000 But you know what?

01:07:24.000 We're not talking about that today.

01:07:25.000 I'm really honored to have him.

01:07:27.000 We've got some conflicts going, but he's been with us for a while.

01:07:31.000 I hope to get him up for even longer in the near future.

01:07:33.000 He's done a lot of research on the American Union.

01:07:36.000 He did a four-year request.

01:07:37.000 He's gotten some of what he wanted, didn't get some of it.

01:07:40.000 But he's been breaking some really big stories at WorldNetDaily and Human Events.

01:07:44.000 We have links to those right now at Infowars.com and so we're honored to have him with us and we're glad he's fighting this key issue and he's about to come to Texas and be on the southern border for a month and I may go down there and videotape and cover some of what he's doing.

01:07:59.000 I've been invited A hundred times by the minute men to go down there.

01:08:02.000 I've just never had the time, but I may do it, because I want to interview Corsi about the American Union for a TV show I'm doing here locally.

01:08:10.000 But Dr. Corsi, thanks for coming on with us.

01:08:12.000 Oh, it's a great pleasure, Alex, and come on down to the border.

01:08:15.000 I'd love to work with you on a TV show that you're doing, and we'd love to have you the minute men down at the border.

01:08:21.000 Well, I keep meaning to do it, I just...

01:08:24.000 I don't know how upset I'll be seeing all those illegals pouring across, but hell, I'm here in Austin, Texas, which might as well be the border. 0.99

01:08:32.000 We're bringing the trans-Texas corridor right through your backyard. 0.65

01:08:36.000 It is.

01:08:37.000 Let's behave as if we've got laymen joining us that don't understand the full scope of the American Union.

01:08:43.000 Tell us what it is, what its main tenets are, how far ahead and along it already is, sir.

01:08:49.000 Well it started really with the Waco, Texas in March 23rd, 2005.

01:08:55.000 President Bush signed or agreed to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

01:09:01.000 The summit meeting with Vincente Fox and with Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin.

01:09:07.000 And from there it's just gone to a steady stream of government exercises and efforts to build what looks like it's going to be a North American Union like the European Union.

01:09:17.000 And I've been focusing on this Department of Government, really department or division, spp.gov, that's sampeterpaul.gov, government website.

01:09:29.000 And it documents, Alex, there, as you know, the 20 or so working groups that are actively today creating trilateral memorandums of understanding, a whole new network structure of North American, basically treaty-type agreements, basically treaty-type agreements, and everything covering from e-commerce through energy, through environment, travel, trade, you name it, there's a working group right now creating new trilateral mutual understandings and integrating

01:09:56.000 there's a working group right now creating new trilateral mutual understandings and integrating our administrative law And this is all about regional government.

01:10:07.000 Already the states and the regions are breaking into their own subgroups where these unelected boards with executive authority literally are superseding local and even federal control of the Congress.

01:10:22.000 And I had you on a few weeks ago on my local show on KLBJ.

01:10:26.000 And since it's been in the news, can you tell us more, A, about the Trusted Traveler, which is really the American Union ID card, and now they have accompanying legislation to actually take tax money of American citizens and build the infrastructure in Mexico.

01:10:42.000 In fact, I've got the bill here in front of me.

01:10:44.000 This is going from bad to worse.

01:10:47.000 Well, first of all, the Trusted Trader and Trusted Traveler is right out of SPP.gov.

01:10:54.000 And what they're going to do is they're going to Have some form of registration system where we'll all be given North American Union, basically, biometric border passes.

01:11:06.000 And if you're a trusted trader, your trucking company or railroad or whatever will be able to cross the border with a Sentry electronic system.

01:11:15.000 It'll be like going through an EZ Pass on a highway.

01:11:18.000 And Mexicans will get them as well as we will in the United States.

01:11:21.000 It'll completely open the border, Alex, because you'll be able to take your biometrics North American border pass card and swipe it, just like swiping it through a credit card checkout in a grocery store, and you can walk across the border.

01:11:36.000 And 30 million more illegal Mexicans will all of a sudden be legal because they've got these biometric North American cards. 0.65

01:11:44.000 And I'm looking at a great article you wrote about this, and all your claims you hyperlinked to government documents, that's what I like.

01:11:51.000 North American trusted traders begin rolling on NAFTA corridor highways, and this is from Human Events online, and we have a link on InfoWars.com to an archive on Human Events, a great website, where you can just see dozens and dozens and dozens of stories written by Dr. Corsi.

01:12:11.000 Again, we run into denial.

01:12:16.000 Now, George Norrie will talk about this with his huge national show, but very few others will.

01:12:21.000 Even Limbaugh doesn't want to go all the way and admit this.

01:12:24.000 Hannity won't.

01:12:26.000 The general public is having trouble believing.

01:12:28.000 I mean, even when Lou Dobbs comes out and says, the end of America as we know it, total takeover, still I talk to mainline conservatives, they just go, George Bush wouldn't do that, it's not true.

01:12:39.000 And I go, please look at the evidence, and they're in denial.

01:12:42.000 Are you seeing denial?

01:12:44.000 Well, yes, Alex.

01:12:45.000 It's why I link so much to the government websites.

01:12:47.000 I mean, every article I've been writing.

01:12:49.000 And if you look at the book, you know, Minutemen, the Battle to Secure America's Borders, we interviewed dozens of government officials and quote them in the book.

01:12:58.000 Now, the denial is that many Americans have come to associate conservatives with Republicans.

01:13:06.000 In other words, they think Republicans are all conservatives.

01:13:09.000 They think George Bush is a conservative.

01:13:11.000 But it hasn't been the case since I was a kid.

01:13:14.000 There always was the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party, which was the New York billionaires and billionaires and the international business people who wanted only profit and did not care about borders or the sovereignty of the United States.

01:13:29.000 Now that group is still strong in the Republican Party, and this idea to open up our borders and to let immigrants pour in here like an invasion It's a bipartisan idea. 0.98

01:13:41.000 You've got Republicans and Democrats alike cooperating to do it.

01:13:44.000 I need to explain.

01:13:45.000 This is hand-in-glove, horse-in-carriage.

01:13:48.000 This is in the SPP.

01:13:49.000 This is in the American Union Plan.

01:13:51.000 Unlimited flow.

01:13:53.000 We're talking about... This is in the plan, folks.

01:13:55.000 Mexicans running the port facilities on these major highways.

01:13:59.000 Then U.S.

01:14:01.000 customs will be down in southern Mexico.

01:14:03.000 Americans and Mexicans will be in Canada. 0.59

01:14:05.000 This is the end of all three of our countries.

01:14:09.000 And the new census five-year data just came out.

01:14:12.000 Sixteen percent overall increase in legals and illegals.

01:14:16.000 Sixty percent, and you know it's higher than that, of New York are foreigners.

01:14:20.000 In every major U.S.

01:14:21.000 city, the majority is now foreigners.

01:14:24.000 Hell, they're already the majority!

01:14:26.000 This isn't even America!

01:14:27.000 We're already cooked!

01:14:28.000 Well, that's right, Alex.

01:14:29.000 And this whole idea of building this NAFTA superhighway, which is going to start in Texas next year, this Trans-Texas Corridor, four football fields wide of highway, train lines, pipes for natural gas pipelines, and oil, It's going to be built parallel to Interstate 35, right up from Laredo, Texas, right through Austin, through Dallas, up to the border, heading towards Oklahoma City.

01:14:56.000 We've got trade groups like NASCO, N-A-S-C-O, look at nascocorridor.com, all one word.

01:15:06.000 These state organizations, Kansas City SmartPorts, are going to put a Mexican port in the Kansas City inland port.

01:15:15.000 I mean, first of all, what's Kansas City doing with an inland port?

01:15:18.000 I was through Kansas City yesterday.

01:15:20.000 They've got Mexico City Avenue right there by their airport.

01:15:24.000 The largest avenue going out of the airport.

01:15:26.000 What's Mexico City Avenue?

01:15:29.000 It's already set up, and then it bypasses the unions, everybody.

01:15:33.000 This is globalism, where they literally carve up the infrastructure and hand it off to different foreign companies and countries.

01:15:39.000 It's like most of the major highways in Texas will openly be run by Spanish-owned Sentra that Spanish government backed.

01:15:46.000 I mean, we have foreign governments basically buying off our politicians and grabbing our roads, and they're going to slap unbelievable taxes on these roads.

01:15:55.000 Well, that's right, Alex.

01:15:56.000 You know, the people are going to vote in Texas for Governor Perry.

01:15:59.000 If he wins, they're going to be surprised when he turns back around and he starts issuing eminent domain seizures of their homes.

01:16:07.000 By the way, that's already happening in Eastern South Texas.

01:16:10.000 They're already telling ranches, two miles off the road, we're taking your land, and people aren't getting fair value for it.

01:16:16.000 Well, that's right, and they're not going to have any say about it.

01:16:18.000 We're taking your land, not whether you like it.

01:16:22.000 Even these meetings that are being held in Texas, These hearings that the Texas Department of Transportation are holding, they're not about whether or not the road's going to be built.

01:16:32.000 They're just to show everybody the route it's coming through.

01:16:35.000 The question's off the table.

01:16:36.000 The road's going to be built.

01:16:38.000 If I actually... And by the way, I talked to a bunch of people that were there.

01:16:40.000 A well-known musician, Jimmy Vaughn, went and literally screamed at them and asked how they sleep at night.

01:16:46.000 No one at any of these meetings, literally, you can have 2,000 people at these things and no one is for it, except maybe a TxDOT employee, and at the end they just say, we don't care, it goes forward.

01:16:56.000 That's right, they're ignoring the people.

01:16:57.000 It's like what President Bush is doing.

01:16:59.000 The American people want the borders secured.

01:17:02.000 President Bush couldn't care less.

01:17:03.000 He's already agreed to erase the border.

01:17:06.000 And the frightening part about this is when this National Superhighway connects in Mexico, it's going to connect down to ports like Lazaro, Cardenas.

01:17:15.000 These ports are operated by the Communist Chinese, Hutchinson, Wampoa.

01:17:19.000 All of the major ports at Corpus Christi, which is giant, it's almost bigger than the Houston ports, are going to be Chinese run, that was in the Corpus Christi collar times.

01:17:28.000 Well that's due to me, and I know for sure in Mexico, And these Mexican ports... Oh no, now China's getting the Texas ports, oh yeah.

01:17:36.000 Oh, it's unbelievable.

01:17:37.000 We've all been by the same guy.

01:17:39.000 This Robert Pastor, who is at American University, he's been the father of the North American Union.

01:17:45.000 He wrote the Council on Foreign Relations report, Building a North American Community.

01:17:50.000 That report bragged it was the plan behind the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

01:17:56.000 And Robert Pastor is the same guy who under Jimmy Carter The National Security Council, and he gave away Panama Canal back to Panama, and both ends of the Panama Canal are also operated... And that was the trilateralist David Rockefeller's Big New Brzezinski then.

01:18:11.000 That's right, and that's exactly right, and both ends of the Panama Canal are operated also by Hutchinson Wampoa.

01:18:21.000 Now, I'm going to start writing, and I'll start it next week, some more articles on China, and documenting these slave goods that are being produced and brought up this highway. 0.64

01:18:30.000 Well, this is the end of our country.

01:18:33.000 One more segment with Jerome Corsi.

01:18:34.000 I want to hear about solutions.

01:18:36.000 How do we shoot this down?

01:18:37.000 Because they can't pass legislation to get it, so they're just ordering the different executive branches, the bureaucracies, to implement, and it's happening.

01:18:47.000 The American Union is here.

01:18:49.000 Jerome Corsi is our guest.

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01:23:10.000 They're just setting it up, like they set up the Federal Reserve, like they set up all these other bureaucracies.

01:23:15.000 They're just doing it.

01:23:17.000 Jerome Corsi, we're going to get you back up in the next few weeks.

01:23:19.000 You're going to be at the Texas border from September 11th until election time, drawing attention to this.

01:23:26.000 I'm definitely going to come down to Laredo.

01:23:28.000 They're in the war-torn zone.

01:23:30.000 State Department has stated it's more dangerous than areas of Israel.

01:23:34.000 Issuing travel advisories, be safe, rocket attacks, machine gunnings, killing police.

01:23:40.000 It is literal hell on earth.

01:23:42.000 We were writing articles two years before the mainstream media finally called it a war zone.

01:23:45.000 I'll be down there to interview you.

01:23:47.000 We'll tell folks about that in a second.

01:23:47.000 Your new book's out.

01:23:49.000 And I'm gonna carry it.

01:23:50.000 I meant to.

01:23:50.000 I'm just gonna call your publisher.

01:23:52.000 But right now, in the last few minutes we've got left, what are solutions?

01:23:56.000 How do we stop this American Union? 0.54

01:23:59.000 If they don't care, if there's not a law, they're just doing it.

01:24:02.000 Well, I think, first of all, people have really got to get their minds around that it's happening.

01:24:06.000 Because, you know, the government will deny it.

01:24:07.000 Tony Snow came out and said, oh no, we're not creating a North American Union.

01:24:11.000 Well, fine, then close down SPP.gov.

01:24:13.000 Because SPP.gov is creating a North American Union by regulations below the radar.

01:24:20.000 They're building the roads!

01:24:21.000 They're building the roads.

01:24:22.000 The roads are coming through.

01:24:24.000 The Chinese are operating the ports.

01:24:26.000 You know, there'll be Chinese warships coming up the Mississippi before George Bush will admit what he's doing.

01:24:32.000 Folks, this isn't a joke.

01:24:33.000 See, Jerome didn't even know about it.

01:24:35.000 There's lots of stuff that he talks about I don't know about.

01:24:37.000 There's so much studying this every day, it's so bad that he didn't even know it was in the Corpus Christi paper that the Communist Chinese are taking over the major ports there.

01:24:48.000 No, that's news to me.

01:24:49.000 The thing is, Alex, there's so many people working on this.

01:24:52.000 You've got, within our federal government, the papers I've already gotten from SPP.gov, There's, you know, 10 or 12 different agencies of the federal government participating on these working groups, and they're just by fiat creating new memorandums, trilateral memorandums of understanding.

01:25:10.000 They're not submitting them as treaties to Congress, but our laws are being rewritten by the executive branch.

01:25:16.000 It's virtually a coup going on within the administration, within the executive branch of the Bush administration.

01:25:22.000 That's what's happening, and they'll deny it until it's already fait accompli.

01:25:27.000 That's the problem.

01:25:28.000 People have got to speak up.

01:25:31.000 People have got to get involved and speak up.

01:25:35.000 Voting against Governor Perry, it's going to be, to me, astonishing if Governor Perry wins re-election in Texas with the invasion that's going on in Texas.

01:25:44.000 He's doing nothing to stop it.

01:25:46.000 We're building the Trans-Texas Corridor, which is already going in place.

01:25:51.000 A million people in Texas are going to be evicted.

01:25:53.000 You know what's going to happen?

01:25:56.000 And, you know, again, the Republicans and the Democrats are both in on this together.

01:25:56.000 I'm afraid you're right.

01:26:01.000 Everybody's getting paid.

01:26:02.000 who's going to take a bunch of votes away from the other candidates. 0.99

01:26:06.000 It's designed to make Perry win.

01:26:08.000 I'm afraid you're right.

01:26:10.000 And, you know, again, the Republicans and the Democrats are both in on this together.

01:26:14.000 Everybody's getting paid.

01:26:16.000 I've written articles on worldnetdaily.com, tracing the money, looking at all the money Governor Perry's campaign's gotten from the Spanish company that's financing this trans-Texas corridor and the Texas company that's going to do the building.

01:26:30.000 Well, the head of Perry's Border Affairs Group is a Mexican citizen, a registered lobbyist of Mexico.

01:26:37.000 Well, that's right, and you know, they'll all deny it.

01:26:39.000 The Kansas City SmartPort, We're saying, oh no, this will be, you know, the Mexican Customs Office will be still Kansas City soil.

01:26:47.000 Well, then we had to get their internal emails.

01:26:49.000 Their internal emails show that they have not even yet gotten the approval of the State Department.

01:26:54.000 It might take a treaty to get this customs, Mexican Customs Office in Kansas City.

01:26:59.000 It's almost assuredly going to be Mexican sovereign soil in Kansas City.

01:27:03.000 But they lie to the people, even though their internal emails show that they are lying.

01:27:08.000 They don't, they don't feel any compunction to come forth and tell the truth about what they're doing.

01:27:14.000 That's what shocks me.

01:27:16.000 Final question, how is your FOIA request going to get these documents?

01:27:19.000 We got the first 300 pages and the attorney talked to the Linda Bell, who's doing the FOIA request in the Department of Commerce.

01:27:27.000 They say more is forthcoming.

01:27:29.000 I'm just expecting, they may slow play it a while, but I expect to get more documents.

01:27:33.000 And what I've gotten right now, Alex, the United States of America Just out of these, erased out.

01:27:39.000 Everything is North American this, North American that, North American everything.

01:27:43.000 Well, you've got the documents where Texas companies are being given their new North American Union Code.

01:27:47.000 I've got them right in my file here where you've got a Texas corporation, you've got to apply, get your North American Business Classification Code.

01:27:56.000 You can't use the old ones supplied by the Texas Department of Commerce or the U.S.

01:28:00.000 Department of Commerce.

01:28:01.000 You've got to get a North American one. 0.54

01:28:01.000 They're no good. 0.54

01:28:04.000 It's going to be harmonized with Canada and Mexico.

01:28:07.000 Mr. Corsi, Dr. Corsi, we've got to get you back up for a full hour in the near future.

01:28:13.000 I know you're beating yourself to death, fighting us, running all over the country, but I think the good news is we've gone from nobody knowing about this to now I'd say a lot of folks waking up.

01:28:22.000 I think you're right, Alex, and we're just going to continue.

01:28:24.000 I intend to keep writing.

01:28:25.000 Tell us real fast the name of the new book.

01:28:27.000 Uh, Minutemen, the battle to secure America's borders, and I'm co-author with Jim Gilchrist of the Minutemen Project.

01:28:34.000 I haven't read it yet, but I hear it's powerful.

01:28:35.000 I'm gonna definitely read it and then carry it.

01:28:37.000 Take care, Dr. Corsi.

01:28:38.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:28:39.000 We'll see ya.

01:28:40.000 Alright, we'll be right back.

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01:32:05.000 And then I'm going to get back into more details on how, when the bird flu is sure to hit us, the feds say, I'm not saying that, that it may kill half the population or more, and that all the major ice skating rinks are designated for the dead bodies.

01:32:20.000 And one of the heads of the biggest funeral home here in Austin nationwide, It's one of the biggest.

01:32:27.000 Uh, they went to the big seminar and they told them all that everybody's gonna be dying and martial law's gonna come in and the funeral homes will be needed to take all the dead bodies down and they'll be kept at the North Cross Mall there on the ice.

01:32:44.000 I mean, just give me a break.

01:32:47.000 Another one of these hoaxes.

01:32:49.000 And don't worry, this is all a drill for martial law, a drill for federalization with the locals.

01:32:53.000 It's all part of the fear.

01:32:54.000 And one day the Feds will release something like this.

01:32:57.000 They're busy killing all their top microbiologists for some reason.

01:33:01.000 So there won't be a trail when they drop it on us. 0.99

01:33:04.000 It is their religion to kill the majority of us. 1.00

01:33:07.000 You can go read their own CIA docs on that and a lot of others. 0.95

01:33:11.000 This is their plan.

01:33:13.000 And they want to have a police state so they can orderly do this to us. 0.96

01:33:19.000 Right now, Tony in Toronto.

01:33:21.000 Tony, go ahead.

01:33:22.000 Hi, Alex.

01:33:24.000 How you doing?

01:33:25.000 Good, sir.

01:33:25.000 Good.

01:33:26.000 Yeah, I was just talking to you, touch base on that police brutality thing.

01:33:32.000 Really, this is nothing new.

01:33:34.000 I mean, up here in Canada, in Toronto, I think it was before 9-11, we had the head of the police services or A union just openly threatening the commissioners here in Toronto.

01:33:47.000 You know, right out front.

01:33:48.000 Oh yeah, when a country goes bad, when a society goes bad, the police in Rome, Roman police captains, Roman generals, there'd be new Caesars every month.

01:34:01.000 They were just taking over.

01:34:03.000 And the head of the Praetorian Guard would normally then be the next Caesar.

01:34:09.000 Yeah, I was the one who called in yesterday about the rubber bullet thing.

01:34:12.000 Good police get kicked out, they tell the cities what to do, and now they shotgun women in the face and just laugh about it.

01:34:19.000 Yeah, I was the one who called in yesterday about the rubber bullet thing.

01:34:24.000 Just sort of laughing around, it's a big joke, all this sort of thing.

01:34:30.000 But people need to realize that there's a real fine line between when you give someone a badge between a cop and a criminal really.

01:34:37.000 Well, that's it.

01:34:38.000 Thanks for the call.

01:34:39.000 That's exactly what we're talking about here.

01:34:43.000 The disconnect.

01:34:44.000 You see, psychopaths, sociopaths, criminals, hardcore criminals are normally sociopaths, and they may break completely into total, you know, psychopath behavior, psychotic break.

01:34:57.000 They don't feel bad.

01:34:58.000 See, there's no empathy.

01:35:01.000 Oh, there's peaceful protesters standing there. 1.00

01:35:04.000 We'll just start shooting them with rubber bullets and dowels for fun. 1.00

01:35:07.000 Oh, look! 0.99

01:35:08.000 I mean, on this video, there's like people's eyes with blood pouring out of them.

01:35:12.000 And the cops are laughing.

01:35:15.000 And people go, why?

01:35:16.000 Why are you doing this? 0.99

01:35:18.000 F you! 0.95

01:35:19.000 Go ahead and put it on the internet!

01:35:20.000 Ha ha ha ha ha!

01:35:26.000 And see, empathy is what you have in aggressive mammals.

01:35:29.000 It's so we don't tear our own pack members to pieces because we are aggressive.

01:35:35.000 Actually, dominant aggressive males have more empathy than even most females.

01:35:41.000 But weak Child-like, arrested development, the equivalent of being an eleven-year-old, zit-faced, you know, just trying to feel aggressive.

01:35:50.000 That's the mentality of these weak little... I see a lot of these cops in these black uniforms.

01:35:55.000 They kind of waddle around with their knees pointing in. 0.59

01:35:57.000 You know, they're real feminine. 1.00

01:35:58.000 They're a little dark. 0.98

01:36:01.000 And they need those Darth Vader outfits and all that junk they wear to feel powerful. 0.99

01:36:06.000 These are not men. 0.97

01:36:10.000 A man wants to fight other big men.

01:36:13.000 A warrior wants to fight men. 0.92

01:36:17.000 Wants to fight strong enemies. 0.99

01:36:19.000 A warrior doesn't see a bunch of cowering hippies and start shotgunning them with rubber bullets and blowing their eyeballs out.

01:36:28.000 We went and pulled the article and the photo of a little girl in the pool of blood.

01:36:34.000 Student killed during post-game celebration.

01:36:36.000 Woman hit by projectile fired by officer.

01:36:38.000 Police take full responsibility.

01:36:40.000 But no one went to jail.

01:36:42.000 A 21-year-old college student died Thursday of a head injury after a clash between police and a crowd of Red Sox fans who poured into the streets outside Fenway Park.

01:36:50.000 Now this is the original article.

01:36:52.000 It came out then that no one was doing anything.

01:36:55.000 They were coming out of the bars that closed at 2.

01:36:57.000 I guess they closed at the same time in Boston as they do in Austin.

01:37:02.000 And they just, they just, it came out that she just came out and she was walking away.

01:37:07.000 And there's the photo that was taken by a news helicopter of a half a second before he fires.

01:37:14.000 And there she is turning with her boyfriend.

01:37:17.000 And there's the cop out of the line, up close, about 20 feet away, shot her right in the eye, pushed her eye right back in her brain.

01:37:24.000 The bone behind the eye is thinner than a Lay's potato chip.

01:37:31.000 It is paper thin.

01:37:35.000 And a lot of these events, people are getting brain damage.

01:37:39.000 They're going into comas.

01:37:41.000 Because if a rubber bullet hits you in the eye, it pushes the eyeball back in, and then it breaks that bone and bleeding, then it just starts pouring, and that blood starts pouring into the brain.

01:37:51.000 You get a subdermal hematoma, that bleeding underneath the skull, pushing the little brain up against the skull, crushing it as ounces and ounces of blood pour in. 0.99

01:38:05.000 and And what do these stupid meatballs do? 1.00

01:38:14.000 In fact, there was laughing in Boston. 1.00

01:38:17.000 At first, the cops ran over, started beating up her boyfriend.

01:38:20.000 You know, because she hit the ground, and they all just started walking over, because that's... See, they want confrontations.

01:38:30.000 They want confrontations in the screening at the airport.

01:38:34.000 They want confrontations on the street.

01:38:36.000 They want to let men let them know that we're the people that run things here! 1.00

01:38:44.000 I remember doing a lot of stories on that, and so they just kind of walked over.

01:38:46.000 Her boyfriend was trying to fight.

01:38:48.000 Help her! 1.00

01:38:48.000 She's down! 1.00

01:38:49.000 There was a pool of blood.

01:38:50.000 You can go look at the photos.

01:38:51.000 We're posting them right now.

01:38:52.000 Reposting them.

01:38:54.000 There she is in that pool of blood. 1.00

01:38:55.000 They're just, get back!

01:38:55.000 They're just walking over.

01:38:56.000 Ah!

01:38:57.000 And they just start firing.

01:38:58.000 Boom! 0.99

01:39:01.000 And so she, uh, died right there.

01:39:04.000 She bled to death right there.

01:39:06.000 It took a while to get the, uh, aid to her, but... I talked to eyewitnesses.

01:39:10.000 We even, uh, talked to her boyfriend, who we can never get on the air.

01:39:13.000 About it, he was too distraught, but just about all the cops were just laughing and having a good time.

01:39:18.000 And, uh, yeah, why don't you do this, Scott?

01:39:20.000 Why don't you cue that clip we played from Miami seven days ago?

01:39:24.000 Why don't you cue that back up to the, uh, cops in a little celebration?

01:39:29.000 Can you, uh, can... Okay, go ahead and roll it.

01:39:32.000 Now, this is the police in a tent in front of a bank of news cameras.

01:39:37.000 Bragging about, hey did you see that woman with the sign up? 1.00

01:39:40.000 You shot her right in the face.

01:39:41.000 Hey do I get a piece of her dress? 1.00

01:39:44.000 This is the new hunting.

01:39:46.000 These guys don't go kill quail or white tail deer.

01:39:49.000 Hey man, they go out and they blow your little girl's head off and they laugh about it.

01:39:53.000 See, this is the mentality.

01:39:55.000 Go ahead and roll it.

01:39:59.000 The good news about being able to watch you guys live on TV is that lady with the red dress. 1.00

01:40:10.000 I don't know who got her, but when it went through the sun, it hit her smack dab in the middle of the head. 0.51

01:40:18.000 I don't know what's going to happen today, but I'll echo some of the captain's thoughts.

01:40:30.000 I always win on Metra Day before I went to BSL.

01:40:32.000 This is the first time I actually got to come down here and actually be part of a winning team.

01:40:37.000 Usually we got a round kicked, okay?

01:40:39.000 So yesterday we won.

01:40:40.000 That's something to be proud of.

01:40:41.000 Let's go home undefeated, alright?

01:40:45.000 Let's go home undefeated.

01:40:47.000 See, this isn't football games that you live your manhood through, okay?

01:40:52.000 This is bleeding women. 1.00

01:40:55.000 On the sidewalk, you guys just decided to shoot.

01:40:58.000 By the way, this case started when one of them accidentally pulled the trigger.

01:41:02.000 It's now come out and hits this woman in the back of the leg. 1.00

01:41:05.000 She turns around and said, you shot me!

01:41:07.000 What is that for?

01:41:09.000 And, uh, they didn't like her talking bucks, so they just... One of us shot, we better all start! 0.97

01:41:15.000 It's like one of these wounded knee massacres or something.

01:41:19.000 And in the future, folks, it ain't gonna be rubber bullets.

01:41:22.000 Right now in China, when they're taking people's private property, these little farmers will starve without it. 1.00

01:41:27.000 They'll let you starve in China, by the way. 0.99

01:41:28.000 It's such a good country.

01:41:29.000 If you don't have, uh, you know, there's no welfare there in the great commie world. 0.92

01:41:33.000 And the farmers, real, real human beings, make Americans look like cowardly pieces of filth, charging Chinese military with machine guns and they have hoes and axes and rakes. 1.00

01:41:47.000 And beating them too! 0.94

01:41:49.000 Because, I mean, you know, the truth is, if you've got 5,000 farmers up against 300 police with machine guns, the farmers come running up and they run the 100 yards.

01:41:57.000 They run the 50 yards with just bullets.

01:41:59.000 BOOM! 1.00

01:42:04.000 And the scum in the black uniforms are just savagely crushing their heads in. 1.00

01:42:09.000 And I'm telling the scum that runs this country, your time is coming. 1.00

01:42:16.000 I mean, I see those Chinese. 1.00

01:42:17.000 I just wish we had Americans like that. 0.98

01:42:19.000 Just ramming into them. 1.00

01:42:22.000 All that anger just pouring into that scum. 1.00

01:42:24.000 Those big fat parasite beetles in those black uniforms. 1.00

01:42:28.000 I need to control myself. 1.00

01:42:35.000 I said I'd take calls.

01:42:36.000 I just... Have you seen the different videos online?

01:42:38.000 There's a bunch of them.

01:42:41.000 Where, I mean, the peasants with literal clubs, folks, take on people with machine guns and beat them.

01:42:48.000 Almost every time.

01:42:51.000 I mean, nothing on earth can stop a mob of people that are in the right, ladies and gentlemen, fighting for their homes.

01:43:00.000 No, it's dead here.

01:43:01.000 I guarantee it'll just mow crowds down.

01:43:03.000 We'll just beg.

01:43:04.000 Help me!

01:43:05.000 Oh! 0.97

01:43:06.000 We're land of the coward! 1.00

01:43:07.000 Home of the slaves! 1.00

01:43:09.000 Oh! 0.98

01:43:10.000 Oh, black uniform God!

01:43:12.000 Please, oh! 1.00

01:43:14.000 Don't shoot me in the face!

01:43:16.000 Why did you do it? 0.98

01:43:19.000 I'm probably the same way too.

01:43:20.000 I'd probably go, because I'm such a slave.

01:43:22.000 I mean, I come from the slave.

01:43:23.000 We are the slaves.

01:43:24.000 I'd probably fall down and go... I mean, I'm not saying I'm anything special.

01:43:28.000 I'm a scumbag. 0.99

01:43:29.000 Imagine what our founding fathers would think of us. 1.00

01:43:35.000 And a bunch of goons in black going, Yay! 0.97

01:43:37.000 We shot a bunch of innocent people! 0.99

01:43:39.000 Rubber bullets and they had blood pouring out of their faces! 0.90

01:43:43.000 Alright! 0.98

01:43:45.000 I mean, we're a sick, decadent joke! 1.00

01:43:48.000 We really are scum! 1.00

01:43:51.000 Look at what our country's turned into! 1.00

01:43:55.000 And the government blows up buildings right in front of us, and flies planes into them, and the general public's so stupid, not even tuned in to reality at such a low level, they don't automatically know it's an inside job? 0.99

01:44:06.000 I mean, come on! 0.99

01:44:08.000 You go look at the evidence?

01:44:09.000 I mean, just... And I know, just serve the system, police, and just serve it, just fine!

01:44:15.000 Fine!

01:44:15.000 The government's not corrupt, your bosses don't deal drugs, There's not 3.5 trillion or whatever missing from the Pentagon.

01:44:24.000 No-bid contracts are good.

01:44:26.000 NAFTA highways are good.

01:44:28.000 30 million more illegals is good. 0.69

01:44:31.000 Thumbscanning to buy and sell is going to be real good.

01:44:34.000 Hell, 35 vaccines mandatory now.

01:44:36.000 They're trying to make them 44.

01:44:38.000 Mercury's good for you.

01:44:39.000 You heard the news.

01:44:40.000 I mean, don't listen to me.

01:44:42.000 Just don't listen to me.

01:44:45.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jim in Texas.

01:44:47.000 Jim, go ahead.

01:44:49.000 Hey, Alex.

01:44:51.000 Alex, nice to talk to you again.

01:44:52.000 Guess what?

01:44:55.000 There's a real choice in November in the election.

01:44:57.000 I'm running for governor as a write-in candidate, and the headless quintuplets that are going to be on the ballot, every one of them is unacceptable and we all know it.

01:45:06.000 My middle name has been legally changed to Patriot to reflect who I am and what I believe in.

01:45:11.000 I will be on the ballot, so there can be no confusion whatsoever.

01:45:15.000 So hold on, Jim Dillon, who I know personally, is running for governor, your name is no longer Jim Dillon, it is Patriot?

01:45:23.000 Yes it is, James Patriot Dillon.

01:45:26.000 In quotation marks, Alex.

01:45:28.000 Certified by the court, signed by a judge, on the ballot, listed that way, and there cannot be any confusion whatsoever.

01:45:35.000 So you're going to be on the gubernatorial ballot in every county?

01:45:39.000 I will be And my name, James Patriot Dillon, in quotation marks, Patriot, will be posted prominently in bold type in every polling booth, every polling booth in Texas in November.

01:45:53.000 And if the millions of Patriots in this state do not make the right selection in this upcoming election, then they're going to deserve everything they're about to get, Alex, and you know it.

01:46:04.000 Well, Jim, I appreciate your call, but it's more than that.

01:46:08.000 The national average was 35% like a year ago.

01:46:11.000 I know it's growing with the CIA run machines and the Feds paying to put them in.

01:46:18.000 And I know Texas is ahead of the curve on that, so people are trying, they're confused.

01:46:24.000 So, Jim, if I get down there to vote, I'm not... Travis County is kind of a joke.

01:46:31.000 Gennady Bois has been caught stealing elections, the county clerk.

01:46:34.000 It's even been in the newspaper.

01:46:36.000 And we've got the hard inner civic machines here.

01:46:39.000 So, as far as I'm concerned, there's not voting in Travis County.

01:46:42.000 I mean, I just... We should all go out on election day and protest and point out that this is government run.

01:46:50.000 So, I don't know what to say to you.

01:46:53.000 But yeah, Jim, I mean, you'd be an interesting governor, I'll tell you that.

01:46:57.000 I'll definitely vote for you.

01:46:59.000 People should vote for you if they live in a county where they still have a real election.

01:47:03.000 See, we've got to admit how bad it is.

01:47:05.000 I think a lot of it is just admitting that we're in quite a pickle here.

01:47:14.000 There's a better way of saying it, but I won't.

01:47:16.000 Jason in Maryland, you're on the air, Jason.

01:47:20.000 Hi, Alex.

01:47:21.000 Do me a gigantic favor and turn that radio off.

01:47:25.000 There's no radio.

01:47:25.000 Okay, well I heard something blaring in the background.

01:47:27.000 That was a television talk.

01:47:29.000 Okay, go ahead, sir.

01:47:30.000 I was wondering if you could explain to me... I read what William Cooper had to say about this and I'd like to know if you know what will happen under page six of the Homeland Security with FEMA and everything if there's Another real bad attack like you're saying might happen, you know, with all the funeral homes being geared up and everything.

01:47:56.000 What would happen in the few days following that with our government and our infrastructure?

01:48:02.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

01:48:03.000 Let me comment on that.

01:48:06.000 They'll probably have small bio-releases where only a few hundred people die, maybe even less, but there's lots of hysteria and freaking out, and checkpoints on the highways, and we're locking cities and states down, because they've told us what they'll do.

01:48:19.000 This is what they've said.

01:48:20.000 Not that they'll stage the small attack, but they'll tell us what they'll do in an attack.

01:48:25.000 Lock down the states, lock down the cities, and Then have lots of hysteria and fear, and use that for a bigger crackdown and lockdown.

01:48:35.000 Then, a few years later, when you're least expecting it, when they're not hyping the fear, but they've got all the locales trained to go under federal control instantly, that's what this is all about, and the public trained to be totally fearful, and all the preachers recruited, which they're now doing, 13,000 plus counties, and all the mortuaries recruited, it's going to probably be something really deadly.

01:49:00.000 And there will be dead bodies all over the place.

01:49:03.000 And they're just going to let it run its course.

01:49:05.000 They'll be in their bunkers with their cures.

01:49:08.000 And it's going to be bad. 0.99

01:49:12.000 And they'll kill... Well, they say they're going to kill half of us. 0.85

01:49:17.000 They say the bird flu will kill half of us. 0.94

01:49:19.000 I don't believe that.

01:49:20.000 I believe it's a hoax.

01:49:22.000 It's a drill, a warm-up, a Jim Jones Kool-Aid drill.

01:49:27.000 But...

01:49:29.000 When they finally get around to the really big ones, it's a 90%.

01:49:32.000 It's 85 to 95 depending on which document.

01:49:37.000 But I think a lot of that is going to be in the third world. 0.97

01:49:39.000 They'll probably just kill a few million of us here to get us licking their boots real nice. 0.99

01:49:43.000 And then it's going to be open government worship and the president will be called the great leader.

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01:53:03.000 He wrote this article yesterday on this 5th September anniversary.

01:53:08.000 On this 5th September 11th anniversary, some hatebush will gather in New York to profane the memory of 3,000 victims.

01:53:17.000 And it's headlined, 9-1-1 Bush Bashers.

01:53:22.000 And he goes on to say, many 9-11 conspiracy peddlers spontaneously slander the Jews without rhyme or reason.

01:53:30.000 And they claim that, he claims that in an email, Jim Fetzer said that to him, which I don't believe.

01:53:35.000 Fetzer now in a news release he's put out that we have up on InfoWars.com.

01:53:40.000 Excuse me, it's not there yet.

01:53:42.000 My webmaster had an emergency.

01:53:44.000 It's on JonesReport.com, the only place you can get that.

01:53:48.000 And we have Professor Jones' response as well to Mr. Mosley.

01:53:54.000 And, I mean, there's a whole bunch of stuff in here.

01:53:58.000 He claims that Professor Stephen Jones, during the C-SPAN piece, said, there's no peaceful way to achieve the group's goals.

01:54:06.000 Everybody knows that He's mild-mannered and said nothing about no way peaceful stuff can, you know, get our goals.

01:54:15.000 And goes on to claim that he wants a violent overthrow of the government.

01:54:20.000 That's not true!

01:54:22.000 So, I mean, this article is amazing.

01:54:26.000 He uses straw-man arguments to claim that it was a big Jew-bashing fest.

01:54:31.000 on the C-SPAN, but it wasn't.

01:54:33.000 He doesn't mention anybody specifically other than Fetzer, he claims, that was doing this.

01:54:40.000 He claims, our goal is to convince Americans that there's no foreign enemies.

01:54:44.000 We can now drop our guard, stop defending America, don't be ready to fight.

01:54:49.000 Such stuff helps Americans' enemies to be more effective in attacking the United States. 0.59

01:54:55.000 So see, we're trying to help Al-Qaeda now, ladies and gentlemen. 0.84

01:55:02.000 This is just a horrible article, and I read into this deeper and deeper and deeper.

01:55:07.000 So, we're going to have him on.

01:55:10.000 We're going to have this guy on with us, coming up here at the start of this next segment, and I hope we have time to take your calls.

01:55:19.000 If he leaves us early, at the bottom of the hour, we'll be able to go to your calls then, but I may even go to calls while he's on with us.

01:55:26.000 The number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

01:55:31.000 And I think I'm going to let one of the people being accused here face his accuser, and I think we're going to have Jim Fetzer on in about 20 minutes to ask a few questions or make a few statements back at Jonathan Mosley.

01:55:47.000 Mosley also has this statement, quote, after debating these characters extensively, and he goes on to name me first, I believe people need to know who they really are.

01:55:58.000 And then he goes on to list the characters.

01:56:00.000 He's never debated me.

01:56:02.000 And I wanted to debate him yesterday on the phone, but he had to get off.

01:56:04.000 He's a lawyer.

01:56:07.000 So he'll be joining us here in a few minutes.

01:56:10.000 Before I end this segment, there's a big 9-11 event coming up.

01:56:13.000 One night, one night only, next Saturday.

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01:56:24.000 I'll show my new film Terror Storm.

01:56:26.000 I'll give a speech and take questions and comments for an hour.

01:56:29.000 I will then introduce Jim Mars, professor, author of the new book, The Terror Conspiracies, that we'll have available there.

01:56:37.000 He'll give an hour-long speech.

01:56:39.000 Then we'll show about 35 minutes of video I shot in Canada, never before seen, of the Bilderberg Group.

01:56:45.000 And then we'll have some live music.

01:56:47.000 So it's an event you don't want to miss. $10.50.

01:56:52.000 Coming up this next Saturday.

01:56:55.000 And that's very cheap for an event this big.

01:56:57.000 That just helps us break even.

01:56:59.000 Tickets are still available at InfoWars.com.

01:57:02.000 By the way, my new film Terror Storm is out and is available, the official DVD, with 66 minutes of extras on the almost two hour film.

01:57:10.000 So it's almost three hours long total.

01:57:12.000 That DVD is available now at InfoWars.com.

01:57:17.000 Or by calling toll-free 1-888-253-3139.

01:57:22.000 And no matter how hard the neocons fight, get the DVD of Terror Storm, make copies, and know every time you do, you're hurting the people that carried out this attack.

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01:57:40.000 Terrible.

01:57:45.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 All right, welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

01:58:26.000 We are now into the third hour.

01:58:29.000 Yesterday, while I was on air, my producer walked in and handed me an article titled, 9-11 Bush Bashers.

01:58:36.000 And it said, after debating these characters extensively, I believe people need to know who they really are.

01:58:42.000 And he's Jonathan Mosley, and I think people should know who he is.

01:58:48.000 And he has the courage to come on and face us today.

01:58:51.000 He told me he appreciated my courage having him on.

01:58:55.000 Hey, a man on the right doesn't have to have courage.

01:58:58.000 He just is right and that's the way it is.

01:59:01.000 He says in here that Professor Stephen Jones, and we've reviewed the tape.

01:59:06.000 We haven't found it.

01:59:07.000 Maybe he's watching something different we haven't seen.

01:59:09.000 And now it's been reviewed by others and they're saying it's not there.

01:59:14.000 That he supposedly called for violent overthrow of the U.S.

01:59:16.000 government.

01:59:17.000 There's a lot of other stuff in here that I think needs to be addressed.

01:59:20.000 Mr. Mosley, thanks for coming on with us.

01:59:23.000 Hi, how are you doing?

01:59:24.000 I am doing really good.

01:59:25.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself and your association with the publishing company that put out the Swift Boats Captain book for us.

01:59:34.000 Can you tell us about that?

01:59:36.000 Well, yeah, I wrote the book proposal for Unfit for Command to get that published because it's actually owned by my brother-in-law.

01:59:44.000 Um, the, uh, one of his authors was Barbara Olson, um, who was killed at the Pentagon on flight 77.

01:59:50.000 The Solicitor General's wife, yeah.

01:59:53.000 Right.

01:59:53.000 And, you know, I, uh, she was at, I went to her funeral with, uh, Ted Olson and his family.

02:00:01.000 It's a good move, personalizing it.

02:00:03.000 Personalize it as if it's with your argument.

02:00:06.000 In fact, that's how you open your article, Crafty.

02:00:09.000 It says in here that we profane the memory of the 3,000 victims.

02:00:14.000 Go ahead, you have the floor.

02:00:15.000 Tell us how we profane their memory.

02:00:17.000 Because we have a foreign enemy who has attacked us and has been attacking us since 1979 and hit the World Trade Center in 1993 and tells us they want to kill us again and again. 0.87

02:00:27.000 And instead of Looking at the people who really killed them, they want to use it for a political point to bash George Bush and blame our country.

02:00:38.000 It's awfully easy to talk about technicalities.

02:00:40.000 Well, let's start with that, sir.

02:00:44.000 Jonathan, you say that it's Bush-bashers, and then you talk about how it's liberals.

02:00:49.000 Did you know that actually, I've looked at it, most people that believe 9-11 is an inside job are actually conservatives?

02:00:56.000 Well, most people I've talked to, I would have a hard time believing that, because the arguments invariably degenerate into... Well, but see, Bush is no conservative, sir, so see... I mean, out of the gate, you're claiming he's a conservative, when by every yardstick, he's not a conservative.

02:01:13.000 Well, that could be, and the issue here isn't whether, you know, it's okay to bash Bush or not.

02:01:18.000 My point is that they're certainly not looking for the truth.

02:01:22.000 The whole movement here is, we want to know the truth about 9-11, and my argument is, no, you don't.

02:01:27.000 Because you go from questions to conclusions without anything in between.

02:01:32.000 And because you keep changing your story.

02:01:35.000 Mr. Mosley, you can go out and find crazy people that think no planes hit the towers and then try to strawman claim them that we quote keep changing our story.

02:01:45.000 I haven't changed my story from before 9-11.

02:01:47.000 And I asked you yesterday, I said, have you heard of Operation Northwoods?

02:01:52.000 And you said that you had heard me talk about it, but that you didn't know about it.

02:01:56.000 Shouldn't you go find out if my claim about an official U.S.

02:01:59.000 government document to carry out 9-11 style attacks, shouldn't you go find out if that exists, or you just decide that doesn't exist?

02:02:05.000 Well, I don't believe it exists, but I think that most of the argument here is the fallacy of the possible.

02:02:12.000 You say because it could have happened, therefore it did.

02:02:16.000 No, sir.

02:02:16.000 You just said you don't believe Northwoods exists, but you're not going to investigate it.

02:02:20.000 Well, I could, but how would, you know, do you... I'm going to Congress, sir.

02:02:24.000 It is ABC News, Baltimore Sun, declassified in April of 2000.

02:02:30.000 Stay there, sir.

02:02:32.000 Let's go through it piece by piece.

02:02:33.000 I'm going to give you a minute, then I'll take a minute.

02:02:35.000 I've got my atomic clock right here.

02:02:36.000 I'll try to be fair.

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02:07:31.000 We can actually get the country back instead of being pacified by these government operatives out there that pose as conservatives.

02:07:37.000 And then you've got the well-meaning folks out there.

02:07:39.000 Like Jonathan Mosley, who joins us now.

02:07:43.000 Mr. Mosley, you've got the floor.

02:07:44.000 You've written this big article, 9-1-1 Bush Bashers.

02:07:47.000 Tell us how we're all wrong.

02:07:48.000 Tell us why we're smirching, profaning, to use your language, the memory of the 3,000 dead on 9-11.

02:07:55.000 Well, one of the biggest things that upsets me about this is that the effect of this is to not guard us against a real enemy.

02:08:03.000 Now, if there are other enemies and other people we need to bring to justice, that's fine.

02:08:06.000 But we know we have an enemy out there that wants to kill us.

02:08:09.000 And the effect of this is saying, drop your guard.

02:08:11.000 It's like a boxer letting his guard down so he can get walloped again.

02:08:16.000 Now, I know that from your perspective, you don't want to be blamed for what other conspiracy theorists are saying about this.

02:08:23.000 And one of the points I make is that there's a mishmash of different theories out there.

02:08:28.000 And as a consequence of that, people say, oh, there's overwhelming evidence.

02:08:31.000 But the overwhelming evidence is all contradicting each other.

02:08:35.000 From your perspective, you want to be held accountable for your beliefs, but from the perspective of the country and people listening, they're hearing it all.

02:08:42.000 I don't know how to respond to that, but we keep hearing all this craziness go back and forth, and it does keep changing when they encounter facts, they just switch to another argument.

02:08:54.000 There is only one official story, but there's hundreds of alternatives, which of course can't all be wrong.

02:09:00.000 But the thing is that There are several formats here of what happened.

02:09:07.000 What got me into this, you know, considering what their memory of Barbara Olsen, who I knew, is to hear these facts being asserted.

02:09:13.000 Then you go back and you check on them, and the initial fact turns out to be false.

02:09:17.000 Now, I don't know, that might not be true of your arguments, but it's true of an awful lot of the stuff out there.

02:09:22.000 Beginning with the idea that, you know, there's a 16-foot hole in the Pentagon, when the engineers measured it at 90 feet, and there's hundreds of eyewitnesses.

02:09:32.000 And this kind of thing.

02:09:33.000 So there's this structure of an assertion of fact, and then a whole bunch of arguments flowing from it.

02:09:38.000 Go back and check the fact.

02:09:39.000 It turns out not to hold up.

02:09:42.000 The other thing is that what bothers me most is that people say, well, this is not plausible.

02:09:46.000 They then suggest something that's infinitely less plausible.

02:09:50.000 That there are thousands of people with no motivation to keep quiet who've all kept silent, including civilian radar operators and airline personnel.

02:10:00.000 The airlines lost billions of dollars.

02:10:03.000 It's just completely implausible.

02:10:05.000 If you're going to argue from the idea that something is not plausible, I think the alternative needs to stand up to your own yardstick.

02:10:12.000 Okay, stop right there.

02:10:13.000 You just had three minutes, and I want to run over what you just said briefly, and then I'll let you continue to spout that stuff.

02:10:21.000 Number one, you say people wouldn't keep quiet.

02:10:24.000 FBI agent Robert Wright got up on C-SPAN at the National Press Club and held up a letter where he'll be threatened under national security for treason.

02:10:33.000 If he tells the public what he knows, he begins crying and breaks down and says, all I can tell you is, the Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladens. 0.99

02:10:42.000 That's a quote.

02:10:43.000 And then we get the memorandum from the President, W199I, ordering The FBI and CIA and Defense Intelligence, Able Danger, which we now have even more on, to back off the Bin Laden operations in Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as AQ Khan Laboratories in Pakistan developing hydrogen weapons and delivery systems, and it's now all on record.

02:11:06.000 And I'm sure with that you'll say it doesn't exist.

02:11:09.000 I'm sorry, everything I just said does exist in triplicate mainstream news.

02:11:13.000 Also, There were countless other FBI and other government people who were threatened with arrest if they wouldn't shut up.

02:11:20.000 When a colonel blew the whistle, they tried to charge him for $67 of unauthorized cell phone calls to his wife.

02:11:27.000 This is the type of stuff that's going on.

02:11:28.000 They threatened Sybil Edmonds with arrest.

02:11:31.000 All of this, so just don't try it.

02:11:33.000 Also, don't try to say they couldn't keep something this big secret.

02:11:36.000 They used drills to smoke screen it, compartmentalize, inside these different government agencies.

02:11:42.000 And they kept the Manhattan Project secret with over 100,000 employees for four years, and other facets of it secret for over a decade.

02:11:51.000 Then you say Pentagon, which I've always said is a honeypot by design, and I haven't messed with it, but I've stated on record that clearly what they show in the news is a 16-foot hole.

02:12:00.000 Then it collapses, and it is 75 to 95 feet, depending on which thing you talk about.

02:12:05.000 Then you talk about how we have all these different stories, but the government has one unified story.

02:12:11.000 They've given five different reasons for Building 7 falling.

02:12:13.000 Now they say they don't know why.

02:12:15.000 They said there were no steel columns in the middle of Tower 1 and 2, and they have the biggest columns you can put in a building that size.

02:12:20.000 47 four-foot-a-round giant steel reinforced columns.

02:12:24.000 You've got the entire commission being called independent, being appointed by George Bush.

02:12:28.000 You've got a bunch of the commission on the Carlisle Group payroll, Zelikow and the rest of them.

02:12:33.000 I'm going to stop right there and I'm just going to add that a lot of these people putting out the no planes at the Pentagon thing, I predicted stuff like this would happen.

02:12:41.000 This is a classic setup where they put out ridiculous disinfo on purpose, buildings draw men, a lot of these are operatives, so then you guys can come discredit false stories.

02:12:50.000 Go ahead, you've got three more minutes.

02:12:52.000 Okay, well of course we kept the Manhattan Project secret because the people working on it knew it was in favor of their country and were patriots.

02:13:00.000 No one watching the mass murder on television And see and all the, remember...

02:13:05.000 The World Trade Center site was owned by the firefighters for weeks.

02:13:09.000 They were looking for their buddies.

02:13:10.000 Now on record they've reported they found the black boxes and ordered to shut up about it.

02:13:13.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:13:14.000 I want that they found the passports.

02:13:16.000 Two of them magically didn't get... Oh, you're... Oh, yes.

02:13:19.000 The firefighters, many of them, think there were bombs in the buildings and think it's an inside job.

02:13:23.000 The head of the biggest victims family group says that he believes it's an inside job now and the majority of his members do.

02:13:29.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:13:30.000 I'm sorry.

02:13:31.000 I cut in on you.

02:13:31.000 I'm sorry.

02:13:32.000 I apologize.

02:13:33.000 But they didn't... Okay, look.

02:13:35.000 To demolish the building the way I understand it is argued, you'd have to have 43,000 demolition devices, 236 steel columns around the outside.

02:13:44.000 You know, some number inside, some people say 47.

02:13:48.000 Then you times 80 or 90 floors, because you wouldn't know which floor.

02:13:52.000 Well, that's not true.

02:13:53.000 It would take a few hundred devices in Tower 1, which is larger explosives, and it would take several hundred devices in Building 7 with the classic bottom-down crimp blow.

02:14:03.000 Well, of course, the news footage shows it falling from the top down.

02:14:07.000 No controlled demolition in history has ever been from the top down.

02:14:09.000 That's what I just said.

02:14:10.000 Tower 1 and 2 were blown from the top down.

02:14:13.000 You can see the squibs as they explode.

02:14:14.000 I'm saying 7 was the classic demolition.

02:14:17.000 But the technical arguments, this is where they're all inconsistent.

02:14:19.000 The technical arguments are that the falling Well, let's do this.

02:14:25.000 Let's say that magically passports flew out undamaged, but everything else was destroyed.

02:14:30.000 No discernible remains.

02:14:31.000 Let's just say that the planes made those fall.

02:14:34.000 Building 7, what are you going to fall back on?

02:14:37.000 Which one of the five stories that the government gives us are you going to give us on 7?

02:14:43.000 Something like that?

02:14:44.000 I don't think there's an official story.

02:14:45.000 There's an... Well, you said there's one official story, sir!

02:14:48.000 No, there's five!

02:14:49.000 There's five, and they've abandoned all five!

02:14:51.000 No, well... Have you actually read the NIST report like I have?

02:14:54.000 Have you actually read the entire 9-11 Commission report?

02:14:57.000 I've read the NIST report on World Trade Center 7.

02:15:01.000 Look, if you go back, and I have the news footage that I recorded from the day of and that week.

02:15:05.000 If you look at the... One tower collapsed neatly, the other tower collapsed very messy.

02:15:10.000 There are chunks coming out of that top as big as ten, you know, ten houses together.

02:15:15.000 Well, they blew it in sections.

02:15:16.000 They blew it in... The metal was cut off perfectly in two-story and one-story sections.

02:15:23.000 Perfectly sliced.

02:15:25.000 Then they said, no cameras, no photos.

02:15:27.000 Well, how would they do that without 43,000 separate demolition devices?

02:15:33.000 Major companies could have wired each one of those towers in two weeks apiece.

02:15:37.000 They had major drills, they had evacuations, they had major floors closed down, they had all sorts of weird people.

02:15:42.000 I've talked to the janitorial staff that were in there, just like Oklahoma City that Clinton pulled off when they caught the different guys in there with the grey sticks of butter drilling the columns.

02:15:54.000 They told them they were maintenance people.

02:15:56.000 Well, and you would have to drill the columns because you would have to put the explosive directly against it.

02:16:01.000 Not if they're big enough.

02:16:02.000 But yeah, they did drill in Oklahoma City.

02:16:05.000 Jane Graham, the head of HUD, witnessed them doing it.

02:16:07.000 Okay, but then you'd need miles of wire.

02:16:09.000 No, Bill Clinton didn't do it, he's nice.

02:16:11.000 And you'd need miles of wire, and demolition experts have looked at that, that you always have to... No, you don't need miles of wire, you can go out the synchronized radio beacon.

02:16:19.000 Okay, but you couldn't synchronize different floors that way with... Have you ever tried to take a radio inside of a... No, you have different layers on different radio frequencies.

02:16:27.000 Have you ever tried to take a radio inside of a big steel building?

02:16:30.000 Sure, the government has all sorts of systems, and they use radio a lot on these buildings.

02:16:34.000 Okay, but steel doesn't... You're not answering Building 7, sir.

02:16:38.000 The middle collapses.

02:16:39.000 It perfectly falls in on itself in a perfect little pile.

02:16:43.000 But that isn't what happened.

02:16:44.000 What happened was a demolition involved blowing out the bottom floor.

02:16:50.000 There's no demolition in history, and why would anybody try it?

02:16:53.000 It would be unprecedented.

02:16:54.000 Wait a minute.

02:16:54.000 Building 7 was the classic where you blow out the central column, then you blow out the outside columns, and it falls in on itself perfectly.

02:17:01.000 It fell at the speed of an apple.

02:17:04.000 But it fell from the top down, not from the bottom up.

02:17:08.000 No, no.

02:17:08.000 Building 7 fell from the bottom, sir.

02:17:10.000 No, you look at it.

02:17:12.000 The penthouse, the first thing... Well, no.

02:17:14.000 The NIST report says it fell from the bottom down.

02:17:17.000 No, the first change is the penthouse.

02:17:20.000 That's how you do it with a bottom down.

02:17:20.000 No, no, no, sir.

02:17:23.000 You blow the central column so that goes first on every Las Vegas demolition.

02:17:28.000 It's a classic one.

02:17:29.000 Okay?

02:17:30.000 You're confused.

02:17:31.000 They blow the central column, it falls, then the outside columns are blown, and so it falls in on itself.

02:17:38.000 Come on! 0.61

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02:21:55.000 There is!

02:21:56.000 Jonathan Mosley is our guest.

02:21:58.000 Attorney at law, living in Virginia.

02:22:02.000 Professor Jim Fetzer, the founder and the head of 9-11 Scholars for Truth, has called in.

02:22:05.000 We've also got Barry Homish listening.

02:22:08.000 And I'll try to get him on in the next segment, and maybe I'll just try to keep our guests the entire hour, because people are just going wild to hear this.

02:22:14.000 I would just add on the imploding and falling buildings.

02:22:17.000 No modern steel building had ever collapsed from fire.

02:22:19.000 He claims one that did, but that was a separate, smaller, older construction.

02:22:24.000 And, I mean, you know, top scientists, the University of Edinburgh is on record, and BBC's saying one's never fallen.

02:22:30.000 They just tried to burn a building down over a month period with different experiments, and they couldn't do it.

02:22:35.000 That was on BBC last week.

02:22:37.000 And we had the Magritte fire with 100 foot white hot flames.

02:22:40.000 The big columns didn't collapse.

02:22:43.000 How do you respond to that, Mr. Mosley?

02:22:47.000 They're not uniform, identical things.

02:22:49.000 The idea is if one falls from ordinary fire, that proves that the temperature from ordinary fire can compromise steel.

02:22:55.000 So we just got three of those in one day.

02:22:58.000 Not anywhere else, but three in one day, one spot.

02:22:59.000 When you talk about three in one day, that's language of randomness, which indicates that there must be a causal element.

02:23:06.000 There is.

02:23:07.000 There's a terrorist attack that hit, that affected all three.

02:23:09.000 So that's not surprising.

02:23:11.000 But the thing is, is the McCormick, look, people say no building ever fell, fell from fire alone.

02:23:18.000 I got on the internet five minutes later, I came up with a dozen.

02:23:20.000 that have partially or totally collapsed.

02:23:22.000 That is not true.

02:23:23.000 Floors have collapsed, not the main central.

02:23:26.000 You can go to some old building, some 1900.

02:23:29.000 We're talking about modern steel buildings.

02:23:31.000 You know what?

02:23:32.000 I'll let you get more into that, sir.

02:23:33.000 But right now, I want to give Professor Fetzer, who you really hit the hardest in here, a chance to ask you some questions.

02:23:42.000 Professor Fetzer, go ahead and make your statements.

02:23:45.000 Yes, many of the claims this guy made during this internet exchange were actually corrected online.

02:23:49.000 He nevertheless went ahead and put them, even knowing better, knowing that they were false or blunders, he nevertheless included them in his article.

02:23:56.000 Now, this guy, for example, McCormick Place was a convention center.

02:24:00.000 It wasn't a steel structure high-rise with welded and redundant features like the Twin Towers.

02:24:05.000 So he simply pretends he doesn't know the difference.

02:24:07.000 If he doesn't know the difference, he's incompetent. 0.99

02:24:09.000 If he does know the difference, he's corrupt. 0.88

02:24:12.000 He's been fanatical, even obsessive, about posting attacks on members of Scholars.

02:24:16.000 I did a search, for example, Alex, on recent Mosley posts.

02:24:21.000 On the 23rd of July, he put up 19.

02:24:23.000 On the 1st of August, 22.

02:24:24.000 On the 15th of August, he posted 15 attacks.

02:24:27.000 His typical style was to post, then as soon as there was a response, he'd post again immediately.

02:24:32.000 His whole style was immature and juvenile.

02:24:35.000 If he was advancing serious arguments about our findings, they might have been justified in spite of that, but they committed elementary fallacies.

02:24:41.000 Well, stop there, Professor.

02:24:42.000 I want to give him a chance to respond.

02:24:43.000 We'll hold you over, and both of you are gracious to come on.

02:24:47.000 My concern here is that he says that Professor Jones Advocated the overthrow of the U.S.

02:24:55.000 We've watched the tape.

02:24:55.000 government.

02:24:57.000 No one can find that.

02:24:59.000 Mr. Mosley, I'm confused here.

02:25:02.000 You're a lawyer.

02:25:02.000 You're a smart guy.

02:25:04.000 Where on that C-SPAN footage did Jones advocate the overthrow of the U.S.

02:25:07.000 government?

02:25:08.000 About 80% through the tape, there's a question.

02:25:11.000 Can our aims be satisfied without violent overthrow of the government?

02:25:18.000 Professor Jones responds echoing the Declaration of Independence and ends up saying no.

02:25:24.000 It cannot be.

02:25:25.000 Alex, I hate to say there's been a gross misrepresentation by Mr. Mosley, but I've been in contact with Steve Jones.

02:25:35.000 We have Professor Jones comments that he emailed us now up on JonesReport.com.

02:25:41.000 This is ridiculous.

02:25:42.000 It's outrageous and even libelous that he makes these kinds of things up. 0.93

02:25:46.000 Okay, well what did he exactly say then?

02:25:48.000 He said there is no peaceful means to achieve our goals.

02:25:53.000 That's wrong.

02:25:54.000 That's false, untrue, and completely not what he said.

02:25:56.000 He denied it.

02:25:57.000 I was there.

02:25:57.000 He said we have to use constitutional means.

02:26:00.000 He specifically enforced impeachment.

02:26:02.000 You obviously took something out of context.

02:26:04.000 Just like the no planes hit the hit, we didn't see what we saw.

02:26:07.000 It was on national television for everybody to see.

02:26:09.000 We didn't see it because it was some kind of murder.

02:26:12.000 Who's making that claim?

02:26:13.000 You're now just picking from different sources to try to make together some kind of inconsistent theory.

02:26:18.000 He's now implying that we're saying that and we're denying that.

02:26:21.000 We're telling you, sir, that we've gone and watched the tape and your interpretation of what he said is out of left field.

02:26:26.000 Everybody can watch it for themselves.

02:26:28.000 They certainly can and discover that you're committing a libelous act.

02:26:32.000 Well, I'm a lawyer, and I would know better.

02:26:34.000 Well, you ought to know better, but you commit such elementary fallacies, I don't think you're good enough to testify.

02:26:38.000 Well, where does this come from?

02:26:39.000 Where does this come from, saying that Fetzer is attacking Jews?

02:26:42.000 Because I've never heard... Fetzer's pretty liberal.

02:26:45.000 I haven't ever heard him criticize Jews.

02:26:47.000 I didn't say that.

02:26:47.000 I said some of the others are, but I cannot... About 90% of the discussion...

02:26:53.000 uh... that we've had on the internet and discussion group i cannot wait a minute let me let me read back in here a professor professor in the report i've got the three-page article for it yeah i mean is there a part here where he does say that he's got a cute he quote he's got a cute little bit of you because he was back in our program yeah that that's correct that you have a lot of that he and it was a little bit about that is that i want to go to the bottom of this because uh... i mean obviously the

02:27:21.000 The indication there is, ooh, he wanted to know if I was a Jew.

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02:30:45.000 Alright, we're going to go right back to Jonathan Mosley who wrote the big World Net Daily article getting so much attention.

02:30:55.000 9-11 Bush-bashers. 0.71

02:30:57.000 We've got to give them some time to respond here.

02:30:57.000 We've got to be fair with them.

02:31:02.000 But Fetzer, you go ahead and finish up so we can do this one at a time.

02:31:05.000 Finish your points that you wanted to make.

02:31:07.000 He's playing several games, Alex.

02:31:10.000 One is that I asked him who he was.

02:31:12.000 I sent him an email and asked him about his background because he was acting in such an obsessive, compulsive fashion.

02:31:18.000 And I truly believe this had to be a child.

02:31:20.000 In fact, I would insist that this man, he may be older, but he acts like a child.

02:31:25.000 And I suggest that this person, if I had to guess, was about 15 years old, very bright, probably Jewish, possibly a resident of Brooklyn, attending a scientific technological high school.

02:31:36.000 Who believes he's superior to everyone else and has an obsession to try to prove it, but I was commenting on his behavior, not the subject of his judge.

02:31:45.000 Second of all, here's a couple of examples of the shoddy quality of his argument.

02:31:49.000 He says the Twin Towers can't have come down as a result of controlled demolition because they blow out the first and second floors so the building falls down into its own footprint.

02:31:58.000 But I pointed out to him online, before he published this article, that was an equivocation He's just talking about the standard kind of controlled demolition, as in the case of Building 7.

02:32:07.000 I pointed out then and emphasized, we're talking about a special kind of controlled demolition.

02:32:11.000 It's still a controlled demolition, just because it's from the top down.

02:32:14.000 It's not the standard kind, that's all.

02:32:16.000 But Building 7 was from the bottom down.

02:32:19.000 Yeah, Building 7 was a standard controlled demolition, just like we see in Las Vegas.

02:32:22.000 A few minutes ago he was saying that wasn't the case.

02:32:24.000 Is that what you're saying, Jonathan?

02:32:26.000 In a video show, it's definitely not the case.

02:32:30.000 What is definitely not the case?

02:32:32.000 It fell from the top down.

02:32:34.000 You're seeing a blast on the bottom, caused the center pillar to fall, so you see a penthouse fall.

02:32:41.000 That's a classic scene.

02:32:42.000 This is clear evidence the guy is completely incompetent to discuss these issues.

02:32:46.000 All these classic demolitions we see in Las Vegas over and over again.

02:32:52.000 You have the slight indentation at the top coincidental with the blowing up of the bottom.

02:32:56.000 They blow up some beams in the center.

02:32:58.000 To ensure it will implode, fall toward the center.

02:33:00.000 Enough, Professor Fetzer, but let him, let him count, or let him have some time.

02:33:04.000 But there was no blowing out of the bottom floors, as a classic.

02:33:04.000 Go ahead.

02:33:09.000 And part of the thesis is, see, Professor Fetzer is a philosophy professor who cannot stay on the topic.

02:33:15.000 The thesis being tested is, number one, everyone says, these fell exactly like a controlled demolition.

02:33:21.000 Now I'm suspicious.

02:33:22.000 You go back and say, no, it didn't fall exactly like a controlled demolition.

02:33:26.000 Now he's saying it's a special controlled demolition that nobody's ever seen before.

02:33:29.000 Okay, but the original thesis was, we're suspicious because it looks like a controlled demolition when it doesn't. 0.89

02:33:35.000 Well, but that's stupid because... Mr. Mobley, let me say something.

02:33:38.000 Sir, we say that because the firefighters reported bombs and explosions, and they reported squibs, and on all the videos, 7, 1, and 2, you see the blast points, sir. 0.98

02:33:49.000 No, you don't.

02:33:50.000 You see the ordinary piston effect of air being, or of an entire floor being compressed down to nothing.

02:33:57.000 But they're not saying 7 was a pancake.

02:33:59.000 And pancaking wouldn't do that.

02:34:01.000 Before it's even pancaking, being blown up, you see the blast sometimes as much as two seconds before.

02:34:07.000 I videotaped it from the day I just looked at the video.

02:34:10.000 No, you don't see that.

02:34:11.000 I mean, this is the problem.

02:34:12.000 I don't know what video you're talking about, sir.

02:34:15.000 We have blasts going out, in some cases, ten floors below.

02:34:18.000 No, that's exactly what you don't see.

02:34:21.000 If you were, if you had a controlled demolition, you see floors that are completely undisturbed. 0.99

02:34:25.000 You're just, you know, I don't think you're stupid. 0.98

02:34:27.000 I think you're just trying to put doubts in people's minds, sir. 0.99

02:34:30.000 And by the way, we've proven this controlled demolition.

02:34:33.000 You can keep stating that we haven't.

02:34:35.000 I will just state this.

02:34:36.000 We have the public officials who are not to fly.

02:34:38.000 We have the PNAC boys saying they need a terror attack.

02:34:41.000 We have the NORAD drills, that's why NORAD stood down with the CIA, targeting the exact same places at the exact same times.

02:34:47.000 We have the official Northwoods plan to carry out these types of attacks.

02:34:50.000 We have the CIA operations like AJAX, where they declassified that our government stages terror attacks.

02:34:57.000 That's why you and your guys have got a big problem.

02:34:59.000 No, because you're arguing about the possible.

02:35:01.000 Because something could have happened, therefore it did.

02:35:04.000 That's a logical fallacy.

02:35:05.000 Sir, the government admits it's carried out terror attacks.

02:35:05.000 No, no, no.

02:35:08.000 He talks about logical fallacies, Alex.

02:35:10.000 He commits a beauty in this article, and I pointed it out to him already online before he published it.

02:35:16.000 Namely, he says, because different conspiracy theories are inconsistent with one another, they must all be false.

02:35:22.000 But the only inference you can follow is that they can't all be true.

02:35:24.000 One of them could be true.

02:35:26.000 That's why I'm saying, if you have a theory of the speed of light, and just because ten people are wrong about their theory, including the government's story, one of them is right.

02:35:37.000 So yeah, to say, because there's an argument, every form of science and research and, you know, detectives at a cop shop, they're going to be disagreeing, but somebody's going to be right.

02:35:47.000 See, I pointed out to Professor Fetzer online that They claim to have evidence proving all of these different inconsistent theories.

02:35:55.000 And if there is evidence proving all of them... That's interpretive!

02:35:59.000 That's interpretive!

02:36:01.000 I pointed out to him that that's also a fallacy because if you only take part of the evidence you can prove one.

02:36:06.000 You have to take into account all the relevant evidence.

02:36:08.000 He's a master at what's called special pleading and taking only part of the evidence.

02:36:12.000 He's committed another blunder.

02:36:13.000 This guy could not get through a critical thinking class that I teach to our freshmen.

02:36:18.000 Well, I hope you take that course, because you can't stay on one topic.

02:36:21.000 Well, sir, can you specifically, going back to Jones, can you specifically tell us where, well, number one, you are saying here that he agreed with the overthrow of the government, and I've watched those tapes over and over again.

02:36:35.000 I never saw that or heard that.

02:36:37.000 Can you specifically tell me what Jones said?

02:36:39.000 Yes, he was asked, is there a way to achieve our goals without a violent overthrow?

02:36:45.000 He then echoed the Declaration of Independence preamble which is a call for revolution by deliberately echoing the language and format which is an argument for revolution And then ended up saying, there is no peaceful way to achieve our means.

02:37:00.000 This is completely false and misleading.

02:37:02.000 He said we have to follow the Constitution.

02:37:03.000 Well, we're going to get the exact clip and we're going to post it.

02:37:06.000 We're doing a big story on this because, you know, this goes into the psychology of people like Mr. Mosley.

02:37:14.000 But again, I can't help but appreciate him.

02:37:16.000 Jim, at least he will come on and debate us and go head to head with us.

02:37:20.000 But what about this?

02:37:21.000 After debating these characters extensively, And then the first person you talk about is me, Alex Jones.

02:37:27.000 You have never talked to me, Mr. Mosley.

02:37:29.000 I don't spend my time trolling around on message boards, and frankly, I wish Fetzer and others wouldn't.

02:37:34.000 It's a complete waste of time.

02:37:37.000 But I'm trying to understand here why you're implying that you debated me.

02:37:41.000 You've been included on almost all of the emails back and forth.

02:37:45.000 I don't know if you've read them or choose to participate, but mostly by others.

02:37:50.000 Well, if you put your name on a list, then you're included in the debate.

02:37:53.000 I didn't put your name.

02:37:54.000 I mean, Mr. Fetzer and his colleagues put your name on the list.

02:37:57.000 I didn't put Alex's name on the list.

02:37:57.000 I didn't.

02:37:59.000 You're making this stuff up.

02:38:01.000 You just make this stuff up as you go along.

02:38:03.000 Could we actually debate for a moment?

02:38:05.000 You know what?

02:38:06.000 You get a minute, then Jim gets a minute, and then I want to go to Barry Homish, if he's still there, to get a comment.

02:38:11.000 But go ahead.

02:38:12.000 Okay, the structure here is we have a thesis.

02:38:14.000 We have to stay on the topic.

02:38:16.000 Professor Fetzer is a master at tap dancing around and changing the topic when he gets caught.

02:38:22.000 The thesis is, structural steel fails under the temperatures of ordinary fires.

02:38:28.000 The McCormick Place was a 1960 building just like the World Trade Center.

02:38:32.000 It did not have to bear the load of 110 floors.

02:38:34.000 It was a heavy steel building.

02:38:36.000 It was the premier exhibition hall in America.

02:38:39.000 And under ordinary fire, in 30 minutes, the steel failed.

02:38:42.000 Now, the issue... You're talking about a lightly built convention center that has an umbrella roof and is not a heavy supportive structure.

02:38:51.000 Those things are outward husk and then have a light topping, cheap construction.

02:38:58.000 Everybody knows that.

02:38:59.000 I can't believe you're trying this argument, but go ahead.

02:39:01.000 Stay on the topic.

02:39:03.000 The topic is... No, I've studied that building!

02:39:06.000 You guys always use that building! 0.98

02:39:07.000 That's ridiculous! 0.65

02:39:09.000 Is the temperature of an ordinary fire sufficient to weaken and compromise structural steel? 0.96

02:39:15.000 Answer, yes.

02:39:16.000 No, it's not.

02:39:17.000 Okay, let's have Fetzer counter that.

02:39:18.000 Jim, go ahead.

02:39:19.000 That's completely false.

02:39:20.000 The melting point of structural steel is 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit.

02:39:23.000 The highest temperature a jet-based fuel fire can attain is 1,800 degrees.

02:39:26.000 There's a thousand degree difference.

02:39:28.000 The Underwriters Laboratory certified the steel used in the towers to 2000 degrees up to 6 hours.

02:39:34.000 The temperatures never got anywhere near there.

02:39:36.000 They estimated closer to 500 degrees.

02:39:38.000 This is completely... 0.98

02:39:40.000 Ridiculous. 0.95

02:39:41.000 In fact, there was a fire in 1975 in the North Tower on the 13th of February that burned much hotter and much longer. 0.85

02:39:48.000 I've got to add this.

02:39:49.000 There were the firefighters reported that in both towers the fires were almost out and to call up more ladders to save the people and there were people standing in the holes for minutes waiting for help without burning or without being singed Begging for helicopter rescue that never came inches away from pillars that seconds later as they talked on cell phones blew up.

02:40:14.000 Now go ahead, we gotta give him some time.

02:40:17.000 Go ahead and finish up what you were saying, Jonathan.

02:40:19.000 The same underwriters lab in their study of World Trade Center cited McCormick Place and a dozen other steel structures that have partially or completely failed.

02:40:28.000 For the proposition, in Underwriters Lab's view, that structural steel does melt.

02:40:32.000 No, they told the engineers that did the study to shut up and lie, and they wouldn't do it, so they got fired.

02:40:37.000 Nope, the Underwriters Lab, because Mr. Fetzer, Professor Fetzer, Professor Fetzer is again changing the subject.

02:40:44.000 Nobody is melting steel.

02:40:46.000 The issue, does it bend and expand so it shears bolts, breaks connectors, warps the structure?

02:40:51.000 It doesn't have to melt.

02:40:53.000 This was a welded It's a steel structure with an intricate lattice, redundant support system.

02:40:59.000 It was very sophisticated.

02:41:01.000 It cannot have suffered from a pancake kind of collapse.

02:41:05.000 I got a structural engineer on this website to correct him on McCormick Place and on the capacity of the Twin Towers to subject to pancake collapse.

02:41:12.000 He simply ignores it.

02:41:14.000 When this guy is corrected, he just goes ahead and repeats his own phony arguments, whether they commit equivocation or logical blunders or no matter what.

02:41:22.000 He has the mind of a 15-year-old and he's obsessed to prove himself correct, no matter how wrong he may be.

02:41:28.000 Look, because Professor Fetz comes back with DREC.

02:41:30.000 He talks about melting steel instead of structural collapse.

02:41:34.000 Well, sir, listen, the University of Edinburgh, with their top engineers, for a month every day, tried to burn down a 24-story steel building, similar construction.

02:41:45.000 They couldn't get anything to even weaken.

02:41:47.000 All they could get was sheetrock to cave in.

02:41:50.000 They burned it day after day.

02:41:52.000 BBC just aired it.

02:41:53.000 They said they couldn't believe that Tower 1, 2, and 7 fell.

02:41:57.000 That's why they did the major study.

02:42:00.000 Now, I'm going to stop you.

02:42:02.000 And there are a lot of other engineers saying this.

02:42:04.000 Kevin Ryan is saying this.

02:42:06.000 Countless others are saying this.

02:42:08.000 And I don't understand how.

02:42:09.000 Listen, it's been well known that buildings are safe.

02:42:12.000 Listen, listen, listen, Edinburgh's doing these tests because they say this changes insurance everything.

02:42:17.000 If buildings will suddenly collapse from kerosene, coal-burning fuel, black, burning, you know, smoke, low-oxygen flames, and you can run through this stuff, if this is the case, then the laws of physics have been suspended.

02:42:31.000 Go ahead.

02:42:31.000 Did they hit it with 104 tons of aircraft traveling 540 miles per hour?

02:42:35.000 If that was the case, it would have happened by the time the fires hit their peak level.

02:42:39.000 The fires had already diminished by over 90 percent!

02:42:43.000 See, he knows these arguments are phony.

02:42:45.000 He knows these arguments are phony.

02:42:47.000 I've pointed out repeatedly that Frank DiMartini, who was the construction manager on the World Trade Center, had observed that they were designed to withstand the impact of the largest then commercial airliner, Boeing 707.

02:42:57.000 Two of them!

02:42:58.000 Yeah, whose impact, he said, would be analogous to sticking a pencil through mosquito netting. 0.98

02:43:02.000 Now, this guy either doesn't know any better, in which case he's incompetent, or he knows better, in which case he's corrupt. 0.67

02:43:08.000 There are no alternatives. 0.99

02:43:09.000 He's either incompetent or corrupt. 0.89

02:43:10.000 Namuru Namasaki, the designer of the towers, went on record saying they could take multiple jumbo jet hits. 0.96

02:43:19.000 Nobody tested that, did they?

02:43:21.000 And a Boeing 707 is half the math.

02:43:25.000 Sir, do you understand the molecular nature of aluminum when it hits giant steel columns and concrete?

02:43:34.000 It's a joke, sir!

02:43:35.000 Yeah.

02:43:36.000 And do you understand the bomb effect of 30,000 kilograms of jet fuel going off in the middle, in the center of the building as a gigantic bomb?

02:43:43.000 It did!

02:43:43.000 Most of that fuel burned off in the giant fireball that's burning over there.

02:43:47.000 Hold on.

02:43:48.000 They've done analysis, sir, of the pounds per square inch pressure generated by that fuel detonating, and it is thousands of times too weak to even blow out the smallest columns. 0.91

02:43:59.000 That's ridiculous.

02:44:00.000 We know exactly how much C4 it takes, properly jacketed, to cut columns. 0.51

02:44:05.000 This is hard to do.

02:44:06.000 Look at Dr. Frank Greening's extensive and excellent article, which analyzes all the energy on this.

02:44:13.000 And if you have a gigantic bomb going off in the center of the building, From 30,000 kilograms, that's 30 tons of jet fuel exploding.

02:44:22.000 You're mangling the entire interior.

02:44:24.000 Yeah, you would have had that damage, even if you believe your phony science, and then it would have broken off or slumped or bent.

02:44:30.000 It wouldn't go boom, boom, boom, and blow off in clear little easy sections.

02:44:34.000 Is Barry Homish still there?

02:44:37.000 Hold on just a second, guys.

02:44:38.000 Is Barry Homish still there?

02:44:40.000 Barry Homish is a writer written for major papers in Israel.

02:44:43.000 I believe he's here in the U.S.

02:44:44.000 and I'm just going to give him a minute or so.

02:44:46.000 I don't even know what subject he's calling in on.

02:44:48.000 Then I'll let both of you gentlemen continue to the end of the hour.

02:44:51.000 Please stay with us, Fetzer and Mosley.

02:44:54.000 Barry Chomish, thank you for coming on with us.

02:44:57.000 What's on your mind?

02:44:58.000 Yeah, I was helped on, actually.

02:45:00.000 Look, the business of Jews and 9-11 and all that... Look, the architect of the World Trade Center is on my email list. 0.76

02:45:13.000 He's been writing me for the last four years.

02:45:16.000 Now, he always had difficulties with it, but now he's coming out and going public.

02:45:22.000 His name is Aaron Swirsky.

02:45:24.000 Uh, he lives in Netanya, and now he, um, he's just saying that we designed the building to take any sort of a plane, and he doesn't believe the planes brought it down.

02:45:36.000 And what's his name?

02:45:37.000 His name is Aaron Swirsky.

02:45:39.000 He lives in Netanya.

02:45:42.000 Um, as I said, I've been corresponding with him for years.

02:45:46.000 Barry Shumish, I've been meaning to get you on the air, and we finally got your number.

02:45:49.000 Let me get your number again as backup, and then try to give me his email.

02:45:53.000 I'd like to interview him now.

02:45:54.000 I know we have chief engineers, the chief designer, Yamasaki.

02:45:59.000 What area of design would Aaron Swartzky be involved in?

02:46:04.000 I've got to get you his number.

02:46:06.000 If I have to, I'll phone Israel and get it for you, and we'll see what he says.

02:46:12.000 What do you think about Jonathan Mosley saying that he doesn't believe there was any government involvement? 0.95

02:46:21.000 Well, that's ridiculous.

02:46:23.000 Look, the fact of the matter is there are ties to Israel, and one of the most disturbing is Menachem Atzmon. 0.94

02:46:32.000 During the 1980s, the Likud party had two accountants.

02:46:37.000 One was Menachem Atzmon, the other one was Ehud Olmert.

02:46:40.000 Atzmon was head of security for Logan and Newark airports.

02:46:45.000 Uh, on September 11th.

02:46:46.000 He determined who got on planes and who didn't.

02:46:49.000 Well, I know Haratz reported that Odigo did indeed warn his employees.

02:46:54.000 That's not an urban legend.

02:46:55.000 That's from Israel.

02:46:56.000 But I personally don't believe Israel could carry it out.

02:46:59.000 But I certainly believe they knew what was going on.

02:47:01.000 It's not just Israel.

02:47:03.000 We had a war, uh, supposedly over We have a guy named Seymour Hersh claiming that the CFR, the so-called neocons, approved the war and that Israel took the air for two and a half weeks with no ground troops to see what it would be like to bomb Iraq.

02:47:25.000 And we're getting all terrible, terrible, lots of younger ladies. 1.00

02:47:30.000 Barry, I've got to leave you there.

02:47:33.000 Let me get you on as a guest.

02:47:34.000 Great journalist.

02:47:35.000 Get his number because I know he's traveling around right now.

02:47:37.000 Form me Scott and we'll get him on next week if we can.

02:47:40.000 Thank you, Barry.

02:47:41.000 We're going to go out of break to a final segment with both our guests.

02:47:44.000 We appreciate them both being here with us.

02:47:45.000 Jonathan Mosley, I'm going to let you take us out of this segment.

02:47:48.000 Go ahead.

02:47:49.000 Well again, there are hundreds of alerts every year.

02:47:51.000 This is what bothers me.

02:47:52.000 People are constantly being warned that there's chatter or something like that.

02:47:56.000 The fact that some security person got it from authorities and passed it down, that's happening constantly.

02:48:01.000 And was always happening constantly.

02:48:02.000 But the media then tried to claim that it was just an urban legend and no one was warned.

02:48:06.000 Why didn't they just say what you just said?

02:48:08.000 Well, I don't know, but I remember hearing warnings during the summer of 2001, before anyone knew there was going to be a 9-11.

02:48:14.000 Yeah, for me, probably.

02:48:17.000 Stay there, both of you.

02:48:18.000 Final segment with Jim Fetzer and our guest Jonathan Mosley, who wrote this savage hit piece on myself.

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02:52:25.000 Professor Fetzer, just in closing here, anything else you'd like to say about 9-11?

02:52:30.000 Well, I think that Mosley's last point well illustrates his incapacity to come to grips with the facts in this matter.

02:52:38.000 He said that the plane that actually hit the building was very different than the 707s that they were designed to accommodate, and in fact precisely the opposite is the case.

02:52:47.000 I routinely lecture on this.

02:52:49.000 The physical properties, the mass, and even the fuel capacity of these planes are very comparable, and I found at least three other engineers who agreed with Frank DiMartini that the buildings were constructed to withstand the impact of those airliners.

02:53:03.000 His point here is either deliberately deceiving us or he's utterly incompetent because he has no familiarity with the facts of the case.

02:53:10.000 Well, I mean, let's ask him.

02:53:11.000 Why are you doing this?

02:53:12.000 I think he's told us he doesn't believe the story we put out.

02:53:15.000 I guess he believes the official story.

02:53:17.000 I know when he says that there's one official story, that is not the case.

02:53:20.000 The government constantly is changing its story.

02:53:24.000 Maybe Jonathan's missed that.

02:53:26.000 Jonathan, your comments?

02:53:28.000 Well, the Boeing website reports the mass fully loaded as being double for the aircraft that hit the World Trade Center than a 707.

02:53:36.000 And the theory in the 60s was that an aircraft going around 180 miles an hour lost from the airport might hit it.

02:53:45.000 Uh, philosophy professor, Fitzer, apparently doesn't know that the kinetic energy increases with the square of speed.

02:53:51.000 Well, listen, you're a lawyer, he's a professor, we all have rights to have our views and study, but you keep implying by saying he's a philosophy professor that we don't have a bunch of scientists trained in engineering and physics that have come to the same conclusion.

02:54:09.000 He appears not even to know that my PhD is in the history of science and the philosophy of science, the history of science.

02:54:14.000 is dominated by physics.

02:54:16.000 He doesn't understand.

02:54:17.000 I've published 27 books on technical subjects and have taught critical thinking, logic, and scientific reasoning for 35 years.

02:54:23.000 I can spot blunders when they occur, and you commit them all the time.

02:54:28.000 I've explained them to you, and you went ahead and published them anyway. 0.98

02:54:31.000 That's completely irresponsible, and the product is intellectual rubbish.

02:54:35.000 This is what Kevin Ryan said, and we'll get to the bottom of it.

02:54:39.000 He's emailed WorldNetDaily and has said, the numerous false statements made in the article by John Mosley that he recently published, at least one should result in legal action.

02:54:50.000 Anyone who actually listened to the C-SPAN broadcast and 9-11 Scholars Group can clearly hear that Mosley's quote of Stephen Jones is inaccurate, to say the least.

02:54:59.000 Dr. Jones did not say that there is no peaceful way to achieve the group's goals and Dr. Jones has not promoted violence in any of his presentations.

02:55:07.000 A correction of this libelous error might be wise choice.

02:55:11.000 Thanks Kevin Ryan, UL Laboratories former underwriter engineer.

02:55:15.000 You want to comment to his email he's put out?

02:55:17.000 Millions of people saw it.

02:55:20.000 I think this guy ought to be reported to the Board of Ethics that in his domain, this is completely unethical and corrupt behavior.

02:55:27.000 Well, Mr. Professor Fetzer repeatedly says that the weight of one floor is not enough to bring down subsequent floors.

02:55:33.000 No, in full note, well, the 29 floors, the 35 floors... Mostly you're jumping around.

02:55:37.000 We're talking about Steve Jones and your libel of him.

02:55:40.000 I was there, buddy.

02:55:41.000 He didn't say what you claimed.

02:55:42.000 We're talking about why the University of Minnesota should fire you, Mr. Professor Fetzer, because you're specifically lying.

02:55:49.000 Well, I didn't get to debate or say much here.

02:55:51.000 They made me a distinguished McKnight University professor.

02:55:53.000 You better check it out, Mosley.

02:55:54.000 They say you're fast and you're logic. 0.73

02:55:56.000 You're atrocious.

02:55:57.000 All right, listen, we're out of time.

02:55:58.000 We are out of time, ladies and gentlemen.

02:56:00.000 Professor Fetzer, thank you for coming on.

02:56:02.000 My pleasure, Ali.

02:56:03.000 Jonathan Mosley, will we see more articles from you?

02:56:07.000 Well, I didn't get to debate or say much here.

02:56:10.000 I guess you might, especially on thermite.

02:56:13.000 Oh, you've got probably 20 minutes to talk.

02:56:17.000 That's not fair.

02:56:18.000 You've got to save plenty.

02:56:19.000 Well, listen, you can come back on.

02:56:21.000 We'll set you back up next week.

02:56:23.000 God bless, folks.

Alex Jones Show - August 17, 2006

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