Alex Jones Show - 20061023_Mon_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, I'll tell you, folks. - This office really is a war room.

00:00:37.000 I was kind of looking at myself.

00:00:39.000 I just sat back and looked at my office and what we do here just a few minutes ago, we were running around like army ants in the fight against the New World Order.

00:00:49.000 We are literally expending our full energy in this fight because we realize how serious and how much trouble this country is in.

00:01:00.000 It is Monday, and I'm so glad that you have joined us as we blast out on the growing list of wonderful AM and FM affiliates, simulcast via global shortwave WWCR, 11 to 2 central, back from 9 to midnight central, and of course on the internet at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, as well as JonesReport.com, InfoWars.net.

00:01:24.000 And all of our webmasters and writers do such a fabulous job, and I'm so honored to be working with all of them.

00:01:31.000 Well, guess who we've got coming up later on in the second hour.

00:01:37.000 He's scheduled for a full hour with us.

00:01:40.000 He's Gore Vidal, one of the foremost literary minds in the world today.

00:01:49.000 And he, of course, has spoken out against the official narrative, the official fable of September 11th.

00:01:58.000 And I have been over the weekend, and so has my research staff, since last week, been reading over transcripts of some of the interviews he's done on radio and TV, and the media always cuts him off when he tries to get into September 11th.

00:02:12.000 Well, we're going to let Gore Vidal say whatever he'd like to about September 11th here on the broadcast today.

00:02:19.000 And I've also got Aaron Russo joining us coming up in the third hour.

00:02:23.000 We'll have open phones with Mr. Vidal and with Russo.

00:02:27.000 And of course, in this first hour, any news item, any issue, any story you'd like to discuss, we will go to your calls.

00:02:35.000 Just please have your question and comment ready so we can move on to the next person so everybody gets a chance to get on air in between my lengthy babbling.

00:02:45.000 That's always important to do.

00:02:49.000 We also have a very sickening video clip from 60 Minutes last night.

00:02:55.000 Extremely sickening.

00:02:58.000 It's up on JonesReport.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:03:04.000 And that's Nancy Pelosi who's probably going to be the next speaker of the House and the Trader. 1.00

00:03:10.000 Says they will not move with impeachment hearings against George Bush.

00:03:14.000 There you have it. 0.75

00:03:15.000 The Democrats make me sick. 0.61

00:03:18.000 And you watch, when there's a Democrat president, if Bush doesn't stay in office and become like Kim Jong-il, which is a real possibility, they're going to be just as bad, probably even worse! 0.93

00:03:27.000 And suddenly all you Democrats who love this broadcast and who think I do a good job and who appreciate what we do here, you're going to be calling me a fascist again.

00:03:37.000 And then I guess if we're still around four or eight years after that, it'll be a Republican back in and you'll suddenly love me.

00:03:44.000 Don't forget, I don't like Bill Clinton.

00:03:45.000 He was a drug-dealing terrorist who carried out the Oklahoma City bombing, and who carried out Waco, and who butchered the Bill of Rights and Constitution to a great extent, and he's on the payroll of the Bushes, and he vacations with them, and he's a surrogate son of them! 0.89

00:04:00.000 And I'm sick of the two parties, they're one party!

00:04:05.000 This makes my blood boil.

00:04:06.000 You know, Ron Paul had the courage a few months ago on this broadcast, what, three months ago, last time he was with us, to say that he does believe Bush should be impeached and that we should have a separation of powers and that controlling three branches of government, that we're in a lot of danger.

00:04:21.000 But we're in the same danger from the Democrats.

00:04:22.000 It isn't the lesser of two evils.

00:04:24.000 It's one evil that we face.

00:04:28.000 One wicked force that we face.

00:04:31.000 And there's also neocon spin In overdrive right now.

00:04:40.000 Telling us that the Military Commissions Act, H.R.

00:04:44.000 6166, doesn't affect U.S.

00:04:45.000 citizens.

00:04:45.000 I'm going to blow that fraud apart when we get back.

00:04:49.000 Massive broadcast.

00:04:50.000 Strap yourselves in for the next two hours and 55 minutes, 20 seconds.

00:04:54.000 Stay with us.

00:04:54.000 It's here after a year in production and traveling to distant lands.

00:05:08.000 My new film, Terror Storm, is complete.

00:05:10.000 Shocking declassified government documents prove that Western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

00:05:18.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

00:05:26.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

00:05:37.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

00:05:41.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

00:05:44.000 Terror Storm is a film that everyone who wants to be truly informed must see.

00:05:48.000 Get your copy today on Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or by calling toll free 1-888-253-3139 or watch it right now online at PrisonPlanet.tv.

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00:08:09.000 Welcome back, my friends.

00:08:24.000 Thank you.

00:08:25.000 We're now into the second segment on this live Monday edition.

00:08:28.000 23rd day of October 2006.

00:08:31.000 Program note before I launch into the news and your phone calls.

00:08:36.000 Coming up October 31st, that's next Tuesday from 5 to 6.30 p.m.

00:08:41.000 I'll be giving a About a 30 minute speech and taking questions and comments for another 30 minutes or so and signing my new film, Terror Storm, that will be launching nationwide in thousands of stores.

00:08:55.000 Hastings and Waterloo and Virgin, Barnes and Nobles.

00:09:00.000 In fact, I'm getting a whole list from my distributor.

00:09:03.000 It's going to be in stores all over the country.

00:09:05.000 Why is that important?

00:09:06.000 Because mainstream people who've never watched a film online, never seen an underground DVD or film, who don't even know what the New World Order is, are going to be wandering around in Barnes & Nobles and Hastings and Virgin Atlantic Records, and they're going to be coming across Terror Storm in the documentary sections.

00:09:26.000 And by the way, my distributor is actually paying money Uh, to get in caps placed, uh, because they want to get this message out in all of the Barnes and Noble stores.

00:09:38.000 So please, if you want to buy with anonymity and you also want to support having even more of the films kept in the stores, be sure, starting, uh, October 31st, uh, to go into, uh, you know, to call your local bookstores, your local video stores and ask them.

00:09:52.000 Most of them will have it.

00:09:53.000 Do you have Terror Storm?

00:09:55.000 By Alex Jones.

00:09:57.000 But again, I'm not going to be traveling around the country doing a bunch of signings.

00:10:00.000 I may do a few.

00:10:01.000 I may go to New York or Chicago or L.A.

00:10:03.000 I've been invited to.

00:10:04.000 I'm not sure right now, but I know I will be October 31st.

00:10:08.000 That's next Tuesday at Lamar and Six at the huge

00:10:14.000 What video slash music store Waterloo Records right next to Waterloo Ice House Restaurant and I will be inside there for an hour and a half giving a speech taking your questions and signing Terror Storms and I hope to see many Austinites and Central Texans there on Halloween night Halloween afternoon also I put Terror Storm out for free on Google Video and it went as high as thirty

00:10:43.000 What?

00:10:45.000 3738 on the top Google 100.

00:10:47.000 That is just one of the 20 plus versions that are out there.

00:10:50.000 A bunch of people have uploaded it.

00:10:51.000 Which has actually worked against us because You get a couple hundred thousand watching this one, a couple hundred thousand watching that one, three hundred thousand watching this one, and then you add them all up together, it'd be at the very top of Google 100, but just one version of it, one upload of it, has gotten as high as the high 30s, and it plunged back down to 80, and then 89, and then out of the top 100 over the weekend.

00:11:13.000 Why do we care about having it in the top 100?

00:11:17.000 Millions of people every day go to the Google Top 100 for their TV viewing.

00:11:22.000 That's where people go to select.

00:11:23.000 There's so many millions of videos on there that most of them never get noticed or seen by wide numbers of people.

00:11:29.000 So we do want to drive it back up into the Top 100.

00:11:31.000 And I know a lot of you have been really working hard to do that.

00:11:34.000 I've seen you out there.

00:11:35.000 I know what you've been doing on the message boards and MySpace and the Google message boards.

00:11:40.000 Thank you.

00:11:40.000 I know you've been working your tails off and you've reached a lot of people because of it.

00:11:44.000 So again, I commend you.

00:11:45.000 Thank you.

00:11:49.000 There is a catch to all of this.

00:11:51.000 Quite frankly, when I really promote and hype the fact that my video is free, I don't sell any of them.

00:11:57.000 And if I'm going to be able to make the new film on the Bilderberg Group and the New World Order Pan-American Union slash Population Reduction Program, and that's my new film I'm working on right now on top of everything else, On top of the interviews, my own show.

00:12:12.000 I mean, we are now in... I've never been working this hard.

00:12:14.000 I am in full attack mode right now.

00:12:18.000 We won't have the funds to make that film unless people go to InfoWars.com and order a copy on DVD to have the high-quality digital of Terror Storm.

00:12:27.000 Plus it has 68 minutes of extras for the 9-11 Neoconagentist Symposium that we had in Los Angeles in June.

00:12:33.000 The highlights of a two-day summit of the best minds on 9-11, bringing out the key evidence and talking about strategy.

00:12:40.000 68 minutes crystallized.

00:12:43.000 It's extremely powerful.

00:12:45.000 So over three hours on one DVD.

00:12:46.000 Available at Infowars.com right now or call toll-free 1-888-253-3139. 888-253-3139.

00:13:02.000 Or you can simply write to me.

00:13:04.000 I'm Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.

00:13:12.000 Thank you.

00:13:14.000 Now the ball is in your court.

00:13:16.000 We are risking our lives.

00:13:18.000 We're taking action like frankly no one else.

00:13:21.000 We are working harder than anybody else.

00:13:23.000 And all we ask is for your support.

00:13:24.000 And we know you have supported us.

00:13:26.000 It was a test to see.

00:13:28.000 I mean my stuff's been out there for free for a long time.

00:13:31.000 But we tested to see what happened.

00:13:33.000 And we did nothing but promote the free stuff.

00:13:35.000 And it's not a pretty picture.

00:13:39.000 But that's all right, ladies and gentlemen, because the main mission is getting the info out.

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00:14:00.000 Then you support us and you support them and you get the info.

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00:14:21.000 We traffic in ideas.

00:14:24.000 Ideas are wealth to me.

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00:14:31.000 They've trained you to fall down and worship baubles, to fall down and worship trinkets, to fall down and worship the emperor's new clothes.

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00:15:36.000 Okay, that said, the toll-free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

00:15:38.000 1-800-259-9231 will get you up and on the air.

00:15:45.000 Gore Vidal is joining us.

00:15:47.000 Eugene Luther Gore Vidal, born in 1925, is a prolific, versatile American writer of novels, stage plays, screenplays, and essays.

00:15:55.000 For nearly 60 years, he has been a public, often controversial figure in both the American literary and political scenes.

00:16:02.000 He is probably the number two living political literary mind.

00:16:06.000 Kurt Vonnegut is numero uno.

00:16:09.000 And we know Kurt likes the films and has sent me, out of the blue, I really am flattered by it, one of his hand-done drawings.

00:16:18.000 And he says he unappreciated Terror Storm and he won't come on the show.

00:16:22.000 In fact, he said about a year ago that he's never doing any more speeches or interviews.

00:16:26.000 I guess he's a man of his word.

00:16:29.000 He says he is now out of public life.

00:16:31.000 He went on Politically Incorrect.

00:16:33.000 Well, it's not what it's called now.

00:16:34.000 It's that Bill Maher show on HBO.

00:16:36.000 And talked about 9-11 being a cover-up and a bunch of other issues and fascism and a police state.

00:16:42.000 And then he did a, I think in Ohio, he went to a university and gave a speech.

00:16:47.000 And then said, goodbye!

00:16:49.000 It's kind of sad when those great minds do that.

00:16:52.000 That's what great actor is now said that He is not going to be doing any more movies.

00:17:03.000 And here I am drawing a blank.

00:17:05.000 What's his name?

00:17:06.000 He's in the famous Cool Hand Luke.

00:17:09.000 He's in a bunch of films.

00:17:11.000 He was in that one with Tom Hanks where he plays the mobster a few years ago.

00:17:16.000 I just can't believe that all of you are out there going, we know his name!

00:17:21.000 We know his name!

00:17:22.000 Well, I don't.

00:17:23.000 I got too much information on legislation.

00:17:27.000 Global Treaties in my little pea brain.

00:17:29.000 It'll pop in my head as soon as I go to break.

00:17:32.000 But, uh... Paul Newman!

00:17:36.000 You know how I remember it?

00:17:37.000 I thought of the salad dressing and the cookies.

00:17:40.000 They make those little cookies that are chocolate chip.

00:17:43.000 I don't usually like sweets, but I like the little chocolate chip orange flavored ones.

00:17:48.000 And this is the last thing I hear around the house.

00:17:50.000 My wife bought a bag of them.

00:17:51.000 I basically inhaled them.

00:17:52.000 I like the Cookie Monster.

00:17:55.000 All right, I'm already digressing.

00:17:58.000 Gore Vidal joins us in the next hour, and then Aaron Russo joins us coming up in the third hour, talking about American freedom from fascism.

00:18:06.000 Very excited about his work and what that film's doing.

00:18:10.000 And we will have open phones, as I said, at 1-800-259-9231.

00:18:15.000 In fact, I want first-time callers, tell us if you're a first-time caller to go to the head of the line.

00:18:19.000 I'm not going to restrict long-time callers, but I want first-time callers and callers who also disagree, you, Trump, are long-time callers.

00:18:25.000 Not that we don't love our long-time callers, we just want to give people a chance you never can get on air.

00:18:31.000 So that's coming up.

00:18:32.000 After the break, I want to first get into Nancy Pelosi.

00:18:37.000 They're saying she's going to be the next Speaker if the Democrats get 15 seats in the House.

00:18:42.000 They've only got to get 6 in the Senate. 0.98

00:18:44.000 Or is it 7?

00:18:46.000 And they're going to do that easily, even with the electronic voting machines, because they're not in everywhere, the CIA-controlled systems. 0.99

00:18:53.000 But it won't matter, because the Democrats are the pit of evil.

00:18:57.000 They're not, you know, some evil doppelganger of the Republicans. 0.51

00:19:01.000 They are part of the same entity, part of the same organism, part of this thing, It takes whatever form it wishes, but its actions are all the same.

00:19:11.000 Destroy liberty, debase the middle class, get rid of our sovereignty, go after our guns. 0.95

00:19:17.000 They're now hyping this Democrat for president.

00:19:19.000 I looked up his record, and he is a total gun grabber.

00:19:27.000 And you watch, they're going to bring out a little bit of 9-11 truth.

00:19:30.000 Oh yeah, Bush knew and let it happen.

00:19:31.000 Ah, ah, ah, don't try it, Democrats.

00:19:34.000 Bush was involved.

00:19:36.000 That is, the people that own Bush As their little front man, they did it.

00:19:40.000 They did the attacks.

00:19:41.000 By the way, Mr. Steele, the former Marine Corps high-level, number two in Marine Corps intelligence, and high-level CIA officer, he's joining us this week.

00:19:50.000 He's now gone public on 9-11.

00:19:53.000 That'll be his first big radio interview on this subject.

00:19:56.000 We have him joining us Thursday.

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00:24:22.000 Yeah, the truth hurts, but it's better to know it.

00:24:26.000 Alright, so for all the Democrats out there that thought the Democrats were going to save you, For those that don't realize that both parties are almost completely bought and paid for, and whatever party is out of power poses as if it's against the tyranny, and as soon as it gets in, it begins stabbing the Constitution in the throat immediately.

00:24:44.000 Now that wasn't always the case, but in the age of lobbyists and the New World Order, it is.

00:24:50.000 Here's the darling Nancy Pelosi on 60 Minutes last night saying there's not going to be any impeachment on her watch.

00:24:57.000 Here it is.

00:24:58.000 She has pledged that as Speaker, she would give the Republicans rights they've denied the Democrats, like allowing them to introduce amendments to bills.

00:25:07.000 But she may have trouble reigning in the Democrats' appetite for revenge. 0.97

00:25:11.000 There's already been talk of multiple investigations and impeachment of the President.

00:25:16.000 No, impeachment is off the table.

00:25:19.000 And that's a pledge?

00:25:21.000 Well, it's a pledge.

00:25:22.000 Yes, it's a pledge.

00:25:24.000 Of course it is.

00:25:26.000 It is a waste of time.

00:25:28.000 So that's completely off the table.

00:25:30.000 Wouldn't they just love it if we came in and our record as Democrats coming forth in 12 years is to talk about George Bush and Dick Cheney.

00:25:40.000 This election is about them.

00:25:42.000 This is a referendum on them. 0.92

00:25:44.000 Making them lame ducks is good enough for me. 0.67

00:25:48.000 Oh yeah, let's not bring the criminals to justice that lied us into war.

00:25:52.000 Let's not bring the criminals to justice that have spent more money than all previous presidents before combined.

00:25:58.000 Let's not go after the people getting rid of our borders and our sovereignty and signing onto the UN agenda.

00:26:03.000 Let's not go after the individuals that have been involved in so much incredible corruption like no-bid contracts and trillions missing from the Pentagon.

00:26:12.000 And I'll tell you why you won't because it's the Democratic leadership up to their eyeballs involved in all of this corruption.

00:26:18.000 That's why the Republicans didn't go after Bill Clinton on missile secrets or cocaine dealers in the White House or Chinese generals in the Commerce Department because the Democrats were all involved in it too.

00:26:29.000 You're connected at the hip You're involved in all the same activities, the same dirt, the same pedophilia, the same payoffs, all of it!

00:26:44.000 We have to recognize that both parties are corrupt and owned by the International Crime Syndicate.

00:26:50.000 That's their overlords.

00:26:51.000 I shouldn't be chastising the public.

00:26:51.000 And you know what?

00:26:53.000 You do get it.

00:26:54.000 You do know it.

00:26:55.000 In fact, a lot of you are smarter than I am and you do get it.

00:26:58.000 And how do I know that?

00:27:01.000 I didn't count them up, but a guesstimation, just going back in memory, it's got to be about ten different scientific polls.

00:27:07.000 I mean, it's more than that.

00:27:09.000 The last two months, we've covered them all here on air, the last one was last Thursday, remember?

00:27:15.000 It was a New York Times, ABC News, scientifically conducted poll.

00:27:21.000 Eighty-four percent do not like either party in Congress.

00:27:27.000 16% approve of Congress.

00:27:29.000 The exact same number we got in a Angus Reid CBS New York Times poll.

00:27:39.000 And let me just correct myself.

00:27:42.000 The 9-11 poll with 84% believing that there is a cover-up.

00:27:47.000 Let me just stop there.

00:27:48.000 Let me stop and get the numbers all right here.

00:27:50.000 I'm so fired up today, I'm getting my info scrambled.

00:27:55.000 We have seen a score of polls reporting that over 80% do not agree with the entire government and both parties are out of favor.

00:28:02.000 We have the 9-11 poll two weeks ago that showed 84% believe that we're being lied to on 9-11, 16% think that we're not, and that poll was New York Times-CBS sponsored Angus Reid.

00:28:18.000 The poll of last Wednesday that we covered on Thursday was Wall Street Journal ABC.

00:28:25.000 There we go.

00:28:28.000 And that was scientific and showed that 84% disapprove strongly of everything the Congress is doing.

00:28:37.000 16% approve of the Congress.

00:28:39.000 So again, we're getting that exact number from separate scientific polling companies over and over again, and it is making the establishment very, very upset.

00:28:50.000 And you notice that these polls are scientific, and it proves they're scientific, that the media isn't hyping it.

00:28:57.000 If the polls showed that the majority agreed, or at least a large minority agreed with the government, you'd be hearing about it.

00:29:04.000 But no, you're not hearing about all these scientific polls.

00:29:07.000 They come out in the news, in a paper or two, maybe one nightly report, but that's it.

00:29:12.000 Because when you start getting 80 plus percent disagreeing, they start panicking.

00:29:17.000 Now, when you're talking about 36 percent in a Scripps Howard News Service, Ohio University poll, they hype that up, like, ooh, look how many!

00:29:26.000 36 percent!

00:29:28.000 Because, really, it has a psychological effect of making you think it's a minority.

00:29:34.000 But when it's 84%, 16% agreeing with the government, they are very quiet about it.

00:29:41.000 You can hear a pin drop.

00:29:42.000 Alright, we'll come right back, get into the Military Commissions Act, does affect U.S.

00:29:47.000 citizens.

00:29:48.000 We'll counter the lies.

00:29:48.000 Stay with us.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:32:58.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:33:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:11.000 Literary legend, one of the only living legends, almost up there with Kurt Vonnegut.

00:33:18.000 Garvidal will be joining us.

00:33:20.000 He's scheduled, as they say, in the next hour, for the full hour, talking about 9-11 and a host of other issues dealing with the fall of the Republic, the birth of the New World Order, how do we counter-strike.

00:33:33.000 As counter-revolutionaries, how do we get our country and our world back?

00:33:37.000 That's coming up.

00:33:38.000 I know we have loaded phones with first-time callers, Steve, Jimmy, Mike, Jack, Dave, and many, many others that are patiently holding right now.

00:33:46.000 We will go to your calls here in just a few minutes.

00:33:49.000 Yesterday on my new Sunday syndicated show, Affiliates, and I'd like it if you'd pick it up live or rebroadcast it.

00:33:55.000 Quite a few of you have.

00:33:56.000 4 to 6 p.m.

00:33:58.000 I read almost all of Pat Tillman's brother, Kevin Tillman's, letter that he put out to the media.

00:34:04.000 We're working on getting him on, by the way.

00:34:07.000 Very powerful.

00:34:08.000 I want to read this in its entirety sometime today if I have time.

00:34:12.000 If not, go up to PrisonPlanet.com and JonesReport.com and read it for yourself.

00:34:18.000 He really spells out a lot of the things that we have been saying here.

00:34:22.000 In fact, let me just read a few things he says.

00:34:25.000 Somehow faking character, virtue, and strength is tolerated.

00:34:29.000 Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.

00:34:32.000 Somehow the death of tens if not hundreds of thousands of people is tolerated.

00:34:35.000 Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution is tolerated.

00:34:39.000 Somehow suspension of habeas corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.

00:34:42.000 Somehow torture is tolerated.

00:34:44.000 Somehow lying is tolerated.

00:34:46.000 Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.

00:34:51.000 Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.

00:34:54.000 Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.

00:34:57.000 Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

00:35:04.000 He goes on to say that President Bush is a criminal.

00:35:07.000 He goes on to say that they are opposing and using the heroism of the troops and expropriating it as if it is their own.

00:35:15.000 He says it in stronger words.

00:35:16.000 It's a three-page article, three-page letter.

00:35:19.000 By Kevin Tillman.

00:35:20.000 Get me Kevin Tillman!

00:35:21.000 We've been working on it for a while.

00:35:23.000 But you know he's besieged by media.

00:35:25.000 But we're going to weasel it.

00:35:27.000 If anybody knows Kevin Tillman, help us.

00:35:29.000 We've got one contact who's trying to get in touch with him.

00:35:31.000 We knew him years ago.

00:35:32.000 In the Army Rangers.

00:35:36.000 So we are trying through that contact.

00:35:41.000 All right, let me get into one of the biggest news stories, one of the most important things, and we'll go right to your calls.

00:35:47.000 Military Commissions Act does affect U.S.

00:35:50.000 citizens.

00:35:53.000 And we have seen the neocons, we have seen the liberals, we have seen the minions, we've seen all the liberal websites going, it's a horrible bill, H.R.

00:36:02.000 6166.

00:36:03.000 It means that legal immigrants can have their liberties stripped and their freedoms. 0.89

00:36:10.000 The left, always running defense for the neocons, the establishment left.

00:36:16.000 If you read the bill, it clearly says four separate places, citizens, and the federal rulings in the previous memos and policy papers put out by the president and his designates states that the trick they play is, it's so simple, is they strip you without a procedure, without a court, the president, the defense secretary, any designate strips you of your citizenship the moment you're arrested as an enemy combatant.

00:36:43.000 And I have the federal court rulings quoted and linked to them in this article that Paul Watson and I wrote yesterday morning for you.

00:36:51.000 I got so mad yesterday morning because I was going around the web and looking at news articles and for the first three weeks it was It Affects Citizens, It Affects Citizens, all the law scholars, all the experts, all the people that know what they're talking about, everybody that read it, the congressman, Ron Paul, everybody.

00:37:09.000 And then suddenly the media, none of them changed their tune because it is what it is.

00:37:15.000 Suddenly all these people come out of the woodwork telling us, no, no, it doesn't affect citizens, no, no.

00:37:22.000 Because early in the bill it says it doesn't affect citizens.

00:37:25.000 But then it plays a little lawyer trick later of saying when they arrest you as an enemy combatant, you are no longer a citizen.

00:37:32.000 Again, guilty until proven innocent.

00:37:35.000 And so let me just read the three page article and then we'll go to your calls.

00:37:38.000 Military Commissions Act does affect U.S.

00:37:40.000 citizens.

00:37:41.000 Please go to PrisonPlanet.com.

00:37:42.000 It's still in the General News section.

00:37:44.000 And get this and email it out to everybody, okay?

00:37:46.000 Because I'm really getting mad.

00:37:47.000 And you should be mad, too.

00:37:48.000 Because why do they want to do this?

00:37:51.000 If they're able to convince people it doesn't affect them, then everybody will go to sleep, we won't have a repeal of this, or we won't have America get angry over this.

00:38:00.000 Either way, we win.

00:38:01.000 People won't recognize the tyranny, and we're going to be in a lot of trouble.

00:38:05.000 In fact, editor and publisher is saying the same thing today.

00:38:10.000 In fact, here it is.

00:38:13.000 This came out today.

00:38:13.000 How to make a power grab mundane.

00:38:16.000 The Washington Post story today, Bush signs terrorism measure, looks like another routine report on the approval of a piece of legislation.

00:38:24.000 Accompanied by the usual he said and she said quotes, a typical reader might shrug at this point and shift to the sports section to read the latest autopsy on the Redskins.

00:38:34.000 How Will we know when a dictatorship has arrived?

00:38:38.000 Not from reading the Washington Post.

00:38:40.000 By the way, editor and publisher is highly respected.

00:38:43.000 The Post story today, Bush Signs Terrorism Measure, looks like just another routine report.

00:38:50.000 Approval of the piece of legislation accompanied by the usual he says, she said.

00:38:54.000 Okay.

00:38:55.000 So that said, let me get into this article that we wrote now.

00:38:57.000 Okay?

00:39:00.000 They did the same thing with the Patriot Act.

00:39:01.000 One of the articles says all that.

00:39:03.000 I always do that.

00:39:03.000 When I write an article, I tend to tell you what I wrote first and then read it.

00:39:09.000 How about I just read it?

00:39:11.000 Military Commissions Act does affect U.S.

00:39:13.000 citizens.

00:39:14.000 Recent application of terror legislation proves American citizens not exempt from intent of bill.

00:39:20.000 By Paul Watson and Alejandro Jones.

00:39:23.000 Neocon government mouthpieces and others are claiming that the Military Commission's Act of 2006, which heralded the official end of the Great Experiment of the American Democratic Republic, does not affect U.S.

00:39:33.000 citizens, only illegal aliens and foreign terrorists.

00:39:36.000 Recent history of how terror legislation was used to target American citizens clearly indicates the legislation will be used domestically and has been.

00:39:45.000 A coordinated effort to downplay the implications of the fact that the bill affects American citizens In the face of extensive coverage on the part of Keith Olbermann is underway in an attempt to offset the possible repeal of Booster Coney legislation.

00:39:59.000 The most recent example of a U.S. 0.98

00:40:01.000 citizen being targeted using terror legislation involved BBC investigative journalist Greg Pallast, who is an American.

00:40:09.000 Who was working for ABC at the time.

00:40:11.000 Who was pursued by Homeland Security and charged with unauthorized filming of a critical national security structure.

00:40:16.000 An Exxon Oil refinery that was readily available to anyone with an internet connection to Google Maps.

00:40:23.000 Under Patriot Act legislation, the charge was later dropped after an activist outcry.

00:40:29.000 The recent historical precedent for U.S.

00:40:31.000 citizens being charged under legislation originally passed in the name of combating non-U.S. 0.97

00:40:36.000 terrorists only provides clear motivation for the Military Commissions Act to be used in the same way.

00:40:43.000 Since 9-11, the Patriot Act has been used in numerous cases involving American citizens, including the homeless, strip club owners, toy store proprietors, and we have links to all of this, owners of websites, writers, activists, photographers, and common criminals.

00:40:59.000 Section 802 of the Patriot Act is specifically aimed at U.S.

00:41:02.000 citizens and announces any crime as domestic terrorism, or the attempted crime is, I would add.

00:41:07.000 Citizens can be held without trial as enemy combatants.

00:41:10.000 The fourth U.S. 0.87

00:41:11.000 Circuit Court of Appeals, we have a link to the ruling by the way.

00:41:14.000 Good try those that were lying about this.

00:41:18.000 The 4th U.S.

00:41:19.000 Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in January 2002 that U.S.

00:41:23.000 citizens can be stripped of their citizenship and held as enemy combatants.

00:41:27.000 Therefore, any legislation passed by Bush automatically applies to American citizens because, as the Washington Post reported, after 9-11, Bush announced his parallel legal system in which he could declare any individual on the planet an enemy combatant and order their summary execution.

00:41:46.000 The Bush Administration is developing a parallel legal system in which terrorism suspects, U.S.

00:41:51.000 citizens and non-citizens alike, may be investigated, jailed, interrogated and tried, and punished without legal protections guaranteed by the ordinary system lawyers inside and outside the government say.

00:42:02.000 It's the Washington Post.

00:42:04.000 The trick being played on the American people is falsely assuring them that they are not the target is simple to decode.

00:42:10.000 The Act states that it only applies to enemy combatants, yet the President and his legal advisors, like Alberto Gonzalez, have routinely announced that the President has the power to strip Americans of citizenship and declare them to be enemy combatants.

00:42:22.000 See, it's a cheap parlor room trick, folks.

00:42:24.000 It's a projection.

00:42:25.000 The enemy combatant designation has ascribed to U.S.

00:42:28.000 citizen Jose Padilla, who was interned in a Navy brig for three years with no charges against him.

00:42:34.000 Top legal experts and scholars are nearly unanimous that the Military Commissions Act does affect American citizens.

00:42:40.000 Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman states in the L.A.

00:42:42.000 Times, the compromise legislation authorizes the President to seize American citizens as enemy combatants, even if they have never left the United States.

00:42:50.000 And once thrown into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any of the normal protections of a Bill of Rights.

00:42:58.000 Similarly, law professor Marty Lederman explains, the subsection II of the definition of unlawful enemy combatant means that if the Pentagon says you're an unlawful enemy combatant, using whatever criteria they wish, then as far as Congress and the U.S. law is concerned, you are one, whether or not you have any connection to hostilities at all.

00:43:15.000 And I want you to watch very closely that it's not just liberals and phony conservatives and neocons that are out saying this bill doesn't affect citizens.

00:43:27.000 It's other people.

00:43:28.000 And I'm taking notes.

00:43:30.000 And I want you to take notes.

00:43:32.000 People out there telling us we're not in a police state.

00:43:34.000 People telling us this doesn't affect citizens.

00:43:37.000 People who poo-poo what we say.

00:43:39.000 You need to watch them and take note of that.

00:43:41.000 Because at key points, the enemy reveals themselves.

00:43:45.000 They reveal themselves.

00:43:48.000 Oh, that makes me sick.

00:43:49.000 I'm Professor Jonathan Turley.

00:43:51.000 You know how many professors?

00:43:52.000 We did a search for this story and found over 20 top professors, liberal and conservative, who've read the bill, who all cite the exact sections.

00:44:00.000 But again, they tell you it doesn't affect you.

00:44:02.000 Just like they did with the Patriot Act.

00:44:04.000 And then, remember Ashcroft said, oh, there's phantoms of lost liberties.

00:44:08.000 These people telling these lies that it's being used in non-terror related cases.

00:44:13.000 They're helping Al-Qaeda. 0.80

00:44:15.000 Remember, that's in Police State 3, talking about Slademan.

00:44:17.000 I want to go get that clip.

00:44:18.000 He says, we are helping Al-Qaeda! 0.99

00:44:21.000 It's double speaking what he says.

00:44:23.000 He says, it doesn't affect U.S.

00:44:25.000 citizens and it doesn't affect non-terror related cases.

00:44:29.000 But then he says, if you say it does, you're helping terrorists, when it clearly does.

00:44:32.000 And now, after everybody forgot about it, thousands of cases.

00:44:35.000 They're using it at the local level.

00:44:38.000 See how these people work?

00:44:40.000 Professor Jonathan Hurley, who teaches constitutional law at George Washington University, agrees that the bill contains no provision in which American citizens are exempt from the intended legislation, and outlined this during a recent appearance with Keith Oberman's MSNBC, and we have the quotes of that in the article ends.

00:44:54.000 Okay, go get it!

00:44:57.000 And cram it down the throat of anybody that comes to you going, it's not true!

00:45:02.000 What Alex and Keith Oberman and all these law professors say isn't true!

00:45:07.000 It doesn't affect us!

00:45:09.000 Everything's alright!

00:45:11.000 They're not building FEMA camps!

00:45:13.000 Bush is an anti-gun!

00:45:14.000 There's no North American Union!

00:45:17.000 They're not putting mercury in the vaccines!

00:45:19.000 They're not putting AIDS virus in the vaccines!

00:45:22.000 They're not putting cancer viruses in the vaccines!

00:45:25.000 Radiated beef sprayed with live viruses is nutritious! 0.99

00:45:29.000 Just tell them to shut up! 1.00

00:45:32.000 It's this type of willful denial that is gonna kill us! 1.00

00:45:35.000 And I mean kill us!

00:45:38.000 You see, people, I realize this is life and death, okay? 1.00

00:45:42.000 Let's rampage through your calls.

00:45:45.000 I gotta move quicker because I got Gore Vidal coming up with a bunch of other stuff.

00:45:49.000 And please don't send me an email telling me I shouldn't get upset.

00:45:51.000 The death of this country should make all of us literally have our temples pumping right now.

00:46:00.000 Steve in Utah, welcome.

00:46:04.000 Hit me, Steve, are you there?

00:46:05.000 Hello.

00:46:07.000 How are we doing today?

00:46:07.000 Hello, sir.

00:46:09.000 Fine.

00:46:09.000 Well, I'm not doing too bad, really, but go ahead.

00:46:12.000 Thank you, we appreciate you out here.

00:46:14.000 I'd like to point some news out.

00:46:15.000 I was watching the news last night and The local station said some guy was flying in from Canada to Salt Lake City and then out to Hawaii and he was a scientist and he didn't, he checked in in Canada but he didn't make it to Salt Lake City.

00:46:29.000 His luggage was checked in, he was checked in but he didn't make it and I'm just concerned whether this guy's getting tortured somewhere or being held against his will.

00:46:38.000 I don't have much more... That's, I mean, secret flights and secret grabbing off the street is freedom.

00:46:43.000 I mean, when you're out walking your dog and somebody jumps out and throws a bag over your head and drags you away never to be seen again, that's freedom!

00:46:49.000 That's what George Washington fought for!

00:46:51.000 Hey, listen America, I don't want to be held against my will.

00:46:55.000 I don't want to be tortured.

00:46:57.000 Torture's good!

00:46:59.000 I don't want this.

00:47:00.000 You don't want this.

00:47:01.000 We don't want this.

00:47:02.000 You guys need to get up and do something.

00:47:06.000 And take responsibility or something because we're all going to be in a heap of hell here pretty soon.

00:47:11.000 Exactly.

00:47:12.000 I appreciate your call.

00:47:13.000 And again, why do they want tyranny? 1.00

00:47:15.000 It's so they can abuse the general public, fools. 0.99

00:47:18.000 And I'm talking to those that they're in denial. 1.00

00:47:22.000 Tyranny is so they can literally financially rape you. 0.97

00:47:26.000 It's so they can humiliate you. 0.99

00:47:27.000 It's what control freaks want.

00:47:29.000 It's the ether in which they swim.

00:47:30.000 They're just trying to turn our political system into an atmosphere that they can thrive in. 0.84

00:47:39.000 Jimmy in Canada, welcome.

00:47:41.000 I wanted to address a couple of issues.

00:47:43.000 You've got Gore Vidal coming on.

00:47:45.000 He used to know Jack Kerouac and all those beatniks. 0.95

00:47:48.000 I used to be a big fan of Jack Kerouac.

00:47:50.000 In his later years, Kerouac kind of disavowed the whole New Age movement and the hippies and everything.

00:47:56.000 I was wondering if you could ask Gore Vidal what he would I think that Jack Kerouac would say about all this national security fake terrorism and all, you know, if he was still around and kicking.

00:48:07.000 Okay, anything else?

00:48:08.000 One other thing, you kind of wondered about this Ahmadinejad from Iran.

00:48:13.000 Ahmadinejad, yeah.

00:48:15.000 Right when everything was settled... Where he was coming from.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, right when... I'm sure he's an agent now.

00:48:19.000 In fact, I had a note to talk about that.

00:48:22.000 And of course, to mention something like that sounds ridiculous to people that haven't researched it, and I could do an hour on it just trying to show you the basic proves.

00:48:29.000 But... But, I mean, you know about Hoxhaki.

00:48:32.000 I mean, they're basically Iranian Masons. 1.00

00:48:33.000 They were set up by the Shah. 0.98

00:48:35.000 to persecute Baha'is in Iran, and they opposed the Iranian revolution on the grounds that, you know, injustice and tyranny would bring on the 12th Mahdi. 0.64

00:48:46.000 And it's also, exactly, and it's also well known that two years ago, right before the election, Iran openly, and Dinesh, I was already in, openly endorsed George Bush.

00:49:02.000 Just type in, Iran endorses Bush for President.

00:49:05.000 It was a serious, state-sponsored media, and I appreciate your call.

00:49:09.000 You know, he brings up a key issue, let me just give you a thumbnail sketch.

00:49:13.000 They used the Wahhabis to overthrow Mosaddegh by staging terror attacks in 1953. 0.69

00:49:18.000 That's declassified.

00:49:20.000 Then when the Shah came in, the CIA flew Ayatollah Khomeini out to France.

00:49:25.000 Then they helped fly him back in and made a deal with him to grab the hostages and to not release them in exchange for money and missiles.

00:49:33.000 That is admitted, by the way.

00:49:36.000 And then they always attack, and always shoot their mouths off, and do all of this, and then we get into this propaganda of, oh, let's not attack Iran, and I even get sucked into that, and we don't know what to believe, and we know in 1999 that they hired the Iranians through Bin Laden. 0.89

00:49:52.000 The money went to the Iranians, and that went to Bin Laden. 0.82

00:49:54.000 Senate report, Alfonso Amado, Republican report, Clinton made the deal to attack the Serbs, and the Serbs fought back against Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, then we went in and attacked them.

00:50:05.000 But the globalists are always stabbing each other in the back.

00:50:07.000 It's like Saddam was CIA, 18 years of age, 1954, recruited, trained in Egypt for two years, sent back in, put in his head of battle security in 69, overthrew the regime in 79, given 30 plus billion dollars by the US to attack Iran, then they stabbed him in the back, so they may be stabbing Iran in the back now, I don't know anymore.

00:50:26.000 I just know that yes, the Wahhabis and the Muslim Brotherhood, at least the core of it, that were with Hitler, are with our government now, We'll be right back after this quick break, my friends. 1.00

00:50:39.000 It's clock and dagger.

00:50:40.000 It's sophisticated information.

00:50:42.000 But when you study it, you see the incredible architecture of the enemy operation.

00:50:48.000 They're not inept. 0.95

00:50:49.000 They're not buffoons. 0.98

00:50:51.000 They're in control for a reason. 0.98

00:50:53.000 They're cunning.

00:50:54.000 They have the genius of evil. 0.78

00:50:55.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:00.000 There must be some kind of way out of here.

00:54:23.000 You know, I really can't do justice to documenting how Muslim extremism is run by our government. 0.99

00:54:29.000 Thank you.

00:54:30.000 But I have really documented in my research, and others have, that it is controlled 100% by our government.

00:54:38.000 And little does a young Muslim know when they suicide bomb themselves on the occasion, about 40% of the time it's actually a real person and not just a bomb and they claim it's a suicide. 0.97

00:54:49.000 They believe they're fighting for their Jihad and they're not. 0.54

00:54:52.000 I've got to write a book about that.

00:54:54.000 I've got to make a film about that.

00:54:55.000 I've got to like detail it because you can prove it!

00:54:58.000 And I kind of at the end there just spurted out Nazis in the bushes and the Nazis had the biggest intelligence network in Europe and the most professional. 0.66

00:55:06.000 The Gestapo.

00:55:09.000 The Gestapo was the intelligence arm of the SS.

00:55:14.000 Formed out of the Secret State Police, formerly from Bavaria.

00:55:23.000 Or was it Prussia?

00:55:24.000 My memory fails.

00:55:25.000 Side issue!

00:55:26.000 It doesn't matter.

00:55:28.000 And they went into the Middle East, they went into Central Asia, and they made deals.

00:55:33.000 Well, you know they were in North Africa, you know they were in Tripoli, you know they were in Well, where Qaddafi stomps around today, Libya.

00:55:43.000 You know, they were in Egypt.

00:55:44.000 They also had emissaries in Iran.

00:55:48.000 What is Iraq today?

00:55:49.000 They made a lot of deals.

00:55:51.000 And all those connections, all those networks got picked up.

00:55:56.000 by the CIA, and they used him in 1953 to overthrow the good leader, Mohammed Mosaddegh, the poet, the pro-America.

00:56:04.000 The guy wore a suit and tie, the guy was pro-U.S.

00:56:07.000 Uh-uh! 0.99

00:56:08.000 Not going to happen!

00:56:08.000 We don't want that!

00:56:10.000 They want scum! 1.00

00:56:11.000 They want war! 1.00

00:56:13.000 They want death! 1.00

00:56:14.000 And they funded Muslim extremists all over the region to kill every good leader, just like they did in Egypt with Anwar Sadat. 1.00

00:56:25.000 And this is just history. 0.98

00:56:26.000 And they use them to attack the Serbs. 0.98

00:56:27.000 They use them to attack us. 0.98

00:56:29.000 They use the Arabs to blow up the Oklahoma City building. 1.00

00:56:32.000 That is Arab to be seen out front in case they got busted. 0.71

00:56:35.000 They were going to fall back and claim it was Arabs.

00:56:38.000 They're really U.S. 0.91

00:56:39.000 government agents and we have mainstream news.

00:56:42.000 We know their names.

00:56:43.000 We know the state police.

00:56:44.000 We've interviewed the detectives.

00:56:45.000 It's admitted.

00:56:47.000 It's in my film Road to Tyranny.

00:56:49.000 We spent 44 minutes of that three-hour film just in Oklahoma City.

00:56:54.000 And they've got 5,000 Iraqi terrorists in every town and major city of this country right now.

00:57:01.000 With plastic explosives, with machine guns.

00:57:05.000 Do you know what 5,000 special forces troops can do?

00:57:09.000 Do you know what they can do in about 20 minutes?

00:57:15.000 5,000 special forces troops with plastic explosives, rocket launchers, and machine guns can bring this country to its knees.

00:57:23.000 Pre-placed special forces can bring any country to its knees in a matter of hours.

00:57:31.000 Now the government could respond and repulse the attack, but the stock market would crash, there'd be panic, hysteria.

00:57:37.000 Hundreds of thousands would die from the panic alone.

00:57:40.000 Not to mention the hundreds of thousands the terrorists would kill.

00:57:44.000 And those Iraqi terror teams are in place right now.

00:57:50.000 And you say, well, they're Iraqi.

00:57:52.000 No, Iraq was our ally in the 80s.

00:57:54.000 They were trained as commandos.

00:57:56.000 Here, they were taken out at the end of the Gulf War by Bush Sr.

00:58:00.000 and then another group of 2,000 by Bill Clinton.

00:58:02.000 A total of a little bit above 5,000.

00:58:04.000 We're talking L.A.

00:58:05.000 Times, Washington Post here.

00:58:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:08.000 That's what we're talking about.

00:58:09.000 It's in Road to Tyranny.

00:58:11.000 And they are hardcore. 0.96

00:58:14.000 So when the government says the Muslims may hit us any minute, oh, they're not joking. 0.97

00:58:18.000 But they're not Muslims. 0.98

00:58:19.000 They got million dollar bank accounts, every one of them.

00:58:22.000 They live in palatial homes.

00:58:24.000 They drive around in sports cars.

00:58:25.000 They got tattoos all over them. 0.99

00:58:27.000 They got high dollar hookers living with them. 1.00

00:58:31.000 And all they gotta do is the day they get that phone call, they'll blow up a few buildings and shoot a bunch of cops. 1.00

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back. 0.78

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00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:47.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:51.000 You want answers?

00:58:54.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Well, I have the Wikipedia bio here.

00:59:27.000 I also have several other bios, literary bios of Gore Vidal.

00:59:32.000 I tried to cover all of this.

00:59:33.000 It would take several hours.

00:59:35.000 But he is one of the only living literary legends right up there with the great folks like Kurt Vonnegut who is on board with what we do here.

00:59:45.000 And we are so honored to have Gore Vidal with us.

00:59:49.000 I spent a lot of time last week and this weekend and showed him my crew.

00:59:53.000 Well, very happy to be there.

00:59:53.000 he's done, things he's talked about, things he's covered.

00:59:57.000 And I've noticed the media always tries to steer him away when he really starts banging the drum and exposing what's happening.

01:00:03.000 That won't happen here today.

01:00:04.000 We're going to talk about the police state unfolding, talk about 9/11, talk about the empire, where we're going as a society, as slaves in the empire.

01:00:13.000 Gore Vidal, thank you for joining us, sir.

01:00:15.000 Well, very happy to be there and looking forward to actually being in Austin fairly soon for the first time.

01:00:23.000 That's right.

01:00:24.000 Well, we're on all over the country, but our home base is Austin, and I certainly look forward to coming out and maybe getting a 10-minute interview with you for my local TV show, but tell us why you're going to be in Austin and what your latest work is.

01:00:36.000 Well, I was invited.

01:00:37.000 There's some sort of a festival going on, I think.

01:00:42.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:43.000 In Austin, and I have a new book of essays, of memoirs, Oh, point-to-point navigation.

01:00:53.000 Covers the last 4,000 years of my life.

01:00:57.000 Or maybe it's just 40 years.

01:00:59.000 Seems like 4,000.

01:01:01.000 And I will be chatting about whatever people want to chat about.

01:01:05.000 And I'm very curious.

01:01:07.000 There's a wonderful writer that I knew quite well from Austin.

01:01:11.000 Lived in Austin, anyway.

01:01:13.000 Bill Brammer.

01:01:14.000 He still remembered?

01:01:16.000 Yes, he is.

01:01:17.000 He wrote a book called The Gay Place, which was about It's about the state legislature, the guys in it, and their problems.

01:01:28.000 The governor of the state is very close to Lyndon B. Johnson's character.

01:01:33.000 It's wildly funny.

01:01:35.000 It's one of the best political novels ever written.

01:01:38.000 It should be better known to Americans wherever they are.

01:01:41.000 Well, in fact, I don't have the printout in front of me, but I'll get it during the break.

01:01:44.000 It's the big Texas Book Festival.

01:01:47.000 It's huge, and you're going to be there, so we'll tell folks about that coming up after this break.

01:01:53.000 These days, I just want to get a gauge of where you're at, sir.

01:01:57.000 What are you thinking about most these days, Gore Vidal?

01:02:02.000 Well, I'm thinking most about the coup d'etat post 9-11, in which we lost the Republic, and I find that disturbing.

01:02:13.000 So the only way that I could do something about it.

01:02:19.000 I've been stumping all over the state of California for Democratic candidates for Congress and I've gone further afield around the country and pointing out some of the dangers and some of the contradictions of the junta that currently rules us and beginning to feel that a tide is changing The first twinge of optimism that I've had in some time.

01:02:48.000 That is what I'm doing.

01:02:50.000 Well, you're right.

01:02:51.000 The tide is turning.

01:02:52.000 The problem is people like Nancy Pelosi are going to try to co-opt it and ensure that revolution doesn't have teeth. 1.00

01:02:59.000 She was on 60 Minutes last night promising she's going to shield George Bush from impeachment. 0.69

01:03:05.000 That's a mistake, of course.

01:03:08.000 And she can't stop it.

01:03:11.000 Once it starts, once the The Democrats have organized the House.

01:03:17.000 Even though she may be the Speaker of the House, she could be overruled.

01:03:23.000 The Judiciary Committee has got good people on it, like John Conyers.

01:03:28.000 And if the Senate also goes, then you'll have Lay and really good people on the other side.

01:03:35.000 Gore Vidal, stay there, sir.

01:03:36.000 We've got a long segment coming up.

01:03:38.000 Plenty of time to talk.

01:03:40.000 The death of the Republic.

01:03:41.000 It's happened.

01:03:42.000 It's on the gurney.

01:03:44.000 And we can try to get out the defibrillators and try to shock the heart back into motion.

01:03:49.000 Will we do that?

01:03:49.000 We'll be right back with Gordon Badeau.

01:03:51.000 We'll be right back.

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01:04:34.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

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01:07:00.000 Looking at my call board here, I know we have calls from as far away as Australia, Canada.

01:07:07.000 And we're going to take calls the last 15, 20 minutes or so in this interview with Gore Vidal.

01:07:14.000 But specifically, it needs to be a question for Gore Vidal.

01:07:18.000 Thank you.

01:07:19.000 Again, we don't screen calls here, but I ask the listeners when we have a special guest.

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01:07:30.000 But he is really a historian and written incredible historical novels.

01:07:34.000 He has, of course, won so many laurels and awards that I can't even begin to try to go through them all.

01:07:41.000 If you'd like to read several different bios on this incredibly well-traveled individual, this great mind, I've read several of his novels.

01:07:50.000 I'm a big fan.

01:07:51.000 And so are my parents.

01:07:52.000 I'll wait until they hear that we interviewed him.

01:07:54.000 You certainly need to go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to do that.

01:07:59.000 For stations that just joined us, we were talking to Gore Vidal, the author, during the last segment, and he brought up the death of the republic.

01:08:07.000 And it's not just Gore Vidal saying that now.

01:08:09.000 He's been saying that for five years.

01:08:11.000 Now it's Keith Uberman.

01:08:12.000 Now it's Lou Dobbs.

01:08:13.000 Now it's almost every constitutional law scholar.

01:08:17.000 They're putting into law things that Hitler didn't even get put on paper.

01:08:22.000 He just did it.

01:08:23.000 And we're going to be talking to Gore Vidal about that today.

01:08:27.000 Gore Vidal, again, thank you so much for joining us, sir.

01:08:29.000 Speaking about the death of the Republic, from your unique perspective, historically, why do you say the Republic is dead?

01:08:36.000 Well, you know, I lived through... This is California sinus that you hear.

01:08:46.000 I lived through most of the 20th century.

01:08:49.000 I was brought up in Washington, D.C., in my grandfather's house, and he was a blind man, but he put together something called the State of Oklahoma.

01:09:04.000 And was elected their first senator in 1907 and served till 37.

01:09:10.000 And the Constitution and our Republic was very much on his mind.

01:09:16.000 He used to say to me, just as a kid growing up, he knew I was going to be political in some way.

01:09:23.000 He always said, remember that the only phrase that matters in all of our great public papers is due process of law.

01:09:33.000 I mean, that was tattooed on my brain, and it's still there.

01:09:39.000 And when we lost habeas corpus in a recent paper by Mr. Gonzalez and his masters, I thought, wow!

01:09:49.000 I didn't think I would live so long to see that one go, because that's Magna Carta.

01:09:54.000 That takes us back to the 10th or 11th century.

01:09:58.000 1215, yeah.

01:10:00.000 Indeed it does.

01:10:02.000 Spirit of Runnymede runs no longer in our Republic and a number of things were very disturbing.

01:10:12.000 One was the two stolen elections of the year 2000 and 2004.

01:10:17.000 There's some disagreements on to what extent and who did it and so on, but electronic balloting machinery seems to have been responsible for a great deal of the theft.

01:10:30.000 That took place, first in Florida in 2000, then in Ohio in 2004.

01:10:37.000 Now, when I really took alarm, I've always hated the New York Times for many, many good reasons.

01:10:45.000 Because it covers up so much that it ought to be... But then poses as if it's, you know, the trusted name.

01:10:52.000 I would call it fake liberal.

01:10:54.000 Fake liberal, whatever it is, it's fake.

01:10:57.000 And the paper of record, I mean, it's no such thing.

01:11:01.000 Example.

01:11:03.000 And, you know, this really was an alarm bell in my head.

01:11:09.000 Apropos of the election of 2004, a first-rate congressman called John Conyers, who is the ranking Democrat of the Judiciary Committee in the House and will be head of the committee should the Democrats come back, He went up with a pretty big crew of investigators to Ohio to investigate the Secretary of State there, who was up to all sorts of mischief, a man called Blackwell, who's now running for governor.

01:11:38.000 And there was a lot of work done on who had stolen what election, who had made it impossible for certain minorities to vote by saying that they had the same names as felons and so forth, all the usual negative nonsense.

01:11:55.000 So, Conyers came out with a report on it, which was a small book.

01:12:02.000 To be helpful, I said I would write a preface to it.

01:12:04.000 He had a publisher in Chicago, where it was duly published.

01:12:10.000 Now here it is, all, there it is right in front of you.

01:12:13.000 Who was where, when, at what polling booth, and how the vote was reversed, how many Diebold machines were used, how many Sequoia, and so forth.

01:12:25.000 Then I thought, "Well, thank God, at last we've got it done.

01:12:28.000 Now we know.

01:12:29.000 Otherwise it's just, you know, hearsay." And suddenly I realized he had sent the publisher, sent it off to the New York Times.

01:12:38.000 They refused to review it.

01:12:39.000 Now this is from a distinguished member of Congress, from the Judiciary Committee.

01:12:45.000 And let's be clear, and again we're talking to Gore Vidal, the famous author and researcher, they didn't just review it and try to poke holes in it, which they knew they couldn't, they just refused to review it.

01:12:57.000 They refused ever to mention it.

01:13:00.000 As did the Washington Post.

01:13:03.000 As did, I think, the Wall Street Journal.

01:13:06.000 The only paper any of us has ever heard of that reviewed it was the Boston Globe.

01:13:12.000 And I thought, really, if the principal newspapers of the country refuse to take notice of the fact that a presidential election has been twice stolen, and an imposter is pretending to be president, and guiding us straight into wars, which benefit his cronies and companies like Halliburton, then we've had it.

01:13:39.000 There is no republic.

01:13:41.000 And we have no redress.

01:13:43.000 The judiciary has been corrupted.

01:13:46.000 The Congress has been pretty hopeless for some time.

01:13:49.000 And what horrifies me most is that there's never any indication of, okay, 90% bad, 10% good is still happening.

01:13:58.000 It's every signpost as we're going into authoritarian, despotic fascism.

01:14:03.000 Every signpost screams, Stalinistic, Hitlerian, Maoist.

01:14:08.000 Every signpost shows hyper-tyranny.

01:14:11.000 Do you agree with that analysis?

01:14:13.000 Well, it's not an analysis, but it's a statement.

01:14:16.000 Yes, I do, pretty much.

01:14:19.000 We have.

01:14:20.000 You said earlier in the program that Hitler never got down to actually writing up his proclamations and so on, but just did anyway. 0.92

01:14:31.000 These people are now trying to give a gloss of legality to Mr. Gonzales, who is, to me, every time I see him, he's a reincarnation of Truman Capote, and he's not only talking about how quaint Geneva Accords are, They have no idea of cause and effect.

01:14:51.000 If we don't sign them, this is how you treat your prisoners that you take in a war. 0.68

01:14:57.000 And we reserve the right to put them in terrible prisons, torture them to death sometimes. 0.98

01:15:04.000 It never occurs to these fools that that will be done to American soldiers. 0.98

01:15:10.000 I spent three years in World War II, and many terrible things went on in the Pacific. 0.97

01:15:16.000 Some for which Americans were responsible and some for which Japanese were responsible.

01:15:21.000 But everybody was trying to hold the fort on legalized torture, which certainly was not on offer.

01:15:30.000 It was certainly never certified from the highest levels.

01:15:34.000 Where do you see it going in the future? 0.99

01:15:35.000 Because Bush is a cornered rat, though he is a titan of a rat. 0.98

01:15:41.000 He's extremely powerful still, but I see him being cornered now. 0.99

01:15:47.000 We're in a catch-22.

01:15:48.000 If we don't fight these fascists, then they will expand their power.

01:15:52.000 If we do corner them, then they will still launch us into even bigger crises to try to cover their tracks.

01:15:58.000 What do you see happening in the future?

01:16:02.000 Our greatest difficulty at the moment is that the media is totally corrupted.

01:16:08.000 Starting with the New York Times, the media belongs to our rulers.

01:16:15.000 So in the old days, when something ghastly would go wrong, you could count on journalists writing about it.

01:16:24.000 TV, when TV was invented, radio.

01:16:27.000 There's nothing there.

01:16:28.000 There are no voices expressing Disagreement.

01:16:33.000 Much less say, every time you say, I'm wartime president, I'm wartime president, just say, well, you're not a wartime president.

01:16:40.000 You have to have a country for a war, and you cannot have a war unless declared by Congress, which they will not do, as subservient as they are.

01:16:50.000 So, why he isn't shut up on that issue, I don't know.

01:16:55.000 What do you see in your crystal ball from your 40 plus years of research and watching politics?

01:17:01.000 What does Gore Vidal see in the next two years?

01:17:05.000 I see the bankruptcy of the United States of America.

01:17:09.000 Follow the money.

01:17:11.000 The amount of money that they have siphoned off of our treasury for overruns and for mismanagement by Halliburton and friends.

01:17:22.000 We don't have that much money.

01:17:24.000 We are getting more and more broke.

01:17:27.000 I don't know if you noticed that two weeks ago, the army was asking for a little more money to buy some, I suppose, to buy bullets.

01:17:37.000 They were running out.

01:17:39.000 All the money has gone to big companies for high-tech stuff.

01:17:43.000 Which we don't need for the 22nd century, maybe.

01:17:47.000 It all goes into white elephants that aren't even for the real war-making capacity. 0.79

01:17:52.000 It's all gone to $15 million blue tarps that Halliburton calls permanent structures.

01:17:58.000 Indeed, yes.

01:17:59.000 And what do we need a permanent structure for in Iraq unless we're going to make a colony out of it? 0.97

01:18:05.000 And the Iraqis have already proved that they don't really enjoy our presence. 1.00

01:18:09.000 Well, you hit on something key, uh, integral, and that's that, uh, the last Fed chairman doubled the money supply in six years.

01:18:15.000 Bernanke says he's gonna double it in the next two.

01:18:18.000 I see it spiraling into hyperinflation.

01:18:22.000 Well, it's already begun.

01:18:23.000 I just read a story that, uh, in the L.A.

01:18:27.000 Times, that, um, the $40 entree is now here per restaurant.

01:18:33.000 Well, people who go to a first-rate restaurant know they're gonna pay a lot of money, but These were what they thought of as run-of-the-mill, ordinary restaurant.

01:18:43.000 Gore Vidal, stay there.

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01:22:52.000 Welcome back.

01:23:18.000 I'm Alex Jones, blasting out worldwide on the AM and FM dial shortwave.

01:23:22.000 Satellite and Infowars.com PrisonPlanet.com Gore Vidal, I mean, again, his bio is so lengthy and everything he's been involved in, the things he's witnessed, the books he's written, the awards he's gotten.

01:23:36.000 If you don't know who Gore Vidal is, or only heard the name in passing, go to Infowars.com, read his bio.

01:23:42.000 Right now, I don't want to burn our time up doing that though, so spend some time and check out the new book he's got out as well.

01:23:49.000 Gore Vidal Foundations, you know, Hitler used crises he created as a pretext to gain control. 0.91

01:23:55.000 We know that the Roman Emperors loved to do this, problem-reaction solution, the Hegelian dialectic We know that there is false flag terror.

01:24:03.000 Our government admits it staged terror attacks in 1953 to overthrow Iran.

01:24:07.000 They claimed our ships were attacked to expand the Vietnam War in 1964.

01:24:11.000 That's now been totally declassified.

01:24:13.000 There are countless examples of this.

01:24:15.000 9-11, and I've got a lot of the interviews you've done here, I've got some of the quotes and things you've said, and I've noticed a lot of these transcripts that you get steered out of it.

01:24:24.000 You've got the floor, sir.

01:24:25.000 9-11 is a foundational event.

01:24:28.000 The questions you've got, obviously I clearly know it's an inside Okay, but let's get the sound level right.

01:24:32.000 How's my voice?

01:24:34.000 I'm bugging back.

01:24:35.000 Now, let's get the sound level right.

01:24:37.000 How's my voice?

01:24:38.000 Good, sir.

01:24:39.000 I had bugged Mr. Vidal there in the break to speak up.

01:24:42.000 You sound wonderful.

01:24:43.000 I'm bugging back.

01:24:44.000 Okay.

01:24:44.000 Yes.

01:24:45.000 9-11 was, first of all, I don't go along with those people who think that the Bushites did it.

01:24:53.000 And demonstrably, they didn't, because 9-11 was a brilliantly executed act of terrorism, and they are not capable of anything brilliant.

01:25:03.000 Thank you.

01:25:05.000 So they couldn't have done it.

01:25:07.000 But they were ready to take advantage of it.

01:25:10.000 And all the information that was coming in... Putin in Russia warned us.

01:25:15.000 Mubarak in Egypt warned us.

01:25:18.000 Assad warned us.

01:25:20.000 All kinds of people were warning us that we were going to have unpleasant visitors who are guys.

01:25:28.000 Did they pay any attention?

01:25:29.000 No, they did not.

01:25:31.000 They now pretend, oh, we didn't know about it.

01:25:33.000 Oh, we didn't know.

01:25:35.000 Oh, well, that wasn't accurate.

01:25:37.000 Well, they go, they all go on dithering, but they knew something was going to happen.

01:25:43.000 And they were ready.

01:25:45.000 Which means that they knew it would be expensive, whatever it was.

01:25:50.000 Do they know that buildings in New York are going to be blown up?

01:25:53.000 No, I don't suppose they do.

01:25:55.000 Well, Mr. Vidal, let me get down to brass tacks, and I'll dig through here and get some of the quotes that you've reportedly said, and I've gone and actually listened to some of these interviews.

01:26:03.000 You bring up the fact that the head of Pakistani intelligence wired $100,000 to the supposed elite hijacker.

01:26:10.000 Well, Pakistan's known to be basically an MI6-CIA front.

01:26:15.000 You talk about how we had U.S.

01:26:17.000 troops mass there around Afghanistan in the months before.

01:26:20.000 Bush had a launch order on his desk to attack.

01:26:23.000 I mean, how do they have all that specifically ready?

01:26:25.000 I mean, in the quotes I've seen here from you, it looks like you're pointing towards, I mean, I guess, let it happen on purpose instead of made it happen on purpose?

01:26:33.000 Or what are you saying?

01:26:34.000 I think let it happen on purpose.

01:26:37.000 There is no proof of this.

01:26:39.000 There are moments when you go by opinions and moments when you go by the facts.

01:26:45.000 It is quite true that the head of the Pakistani Secret Service, he was in Washington meeting with Mr. Tenet, whatever his name was, the head of the CIA, at an ordinary bureaucratic meeting.

01:27:02.000 And while they were there, suddenly the head of the IS something-or-other, they call it, the Pakistani... Mahmood Ahmad ISI.

01:27:12.000 That's it.

01:27:16.000 He cables one of his people in Islamabad, where their headquarters is, to send $100,000, wire it, to Mohammed Atta, who is somewhere in the Midwest, and who is the principal, who is the chief, of the gang that bombed New York and Pentagon and so on.

01:27:39.000 That has never been followed up on.

01:27:40.000 I found that in the Times of India, which is generally a pretty reliable paper, the Wall Street Journal even repeated the story about the time right after 9-11 saying that a warning had come.

01:27:55.000 And the 9-11 Commission said they're not interested in the money.

01:27:58.000 But I mean, how could he, the week before the attacks, wire this money when he's meeting at the White House, he's meeting at the House and Senate's Intelligence Committee Chairman, on the morning of 9-11 meeting with Goss and Senator Graham, Bob Graham of Florida.

01:28:10.000 They're all meeting there, and there's this $100,000 payment, you know, right before this happens.

01:28:15.000 Quick break, we're going to come back and talk.

01:28:17.000 More about this with our guest, Gore Vidal.

01:28:21.000 Sorry about all these breaks, sir.

01:28:22.000 This is the last big one.

01:28:24.000 About 15-minute segment coming up right after this with our guest.

01:28:28.000 We'll get into several other issues with Gore Vidal right here on the GCN Radio Network.

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01:32:23.000 And Mr. Vidal, I've got to be honest with you.

01:32:25.000 Going from the transcripts of what I've read of what you've said on other radio shows and in print interviews and even overseas, You have, what you basically said earlier, let it happen on purpose.

01:32:38.000 Then I look at Al-Qaeda, the fact that Brzezinski brags that in 1979 he founded it, they used him to attack the Serbs.

01:32:46.000 In 1999, Senate report, Alfonso Amado chairman, we know that these groups get financed, we know they build up these enemies.

01:32:56.000 When you look at the fact that they're abolishing the Bill of Rights, it has nothing to do with terrorism.

01:33:01.000 When we look at the fact that they're setting up this police state.

01:33:03.000 Bush has said it's a hundred year war.

01:33:05.000 Cheney said it's going to last two generations.

01:33:08.000 I guess that's the conservative estimate. 0.66

01:33:10.000 I mean, so you think that they're so inept though that they would just let it happen instead of make it happen? 0.68

01:33:19.000 I think they certainly took advantage of it. 0.95

01:33:22.000 They were ready.

01:33:23.000 And if you remember, at the time of Timothy McVeigh and what happened in Oklahoma City, immediately the Justice Department came up with a very draconian set of laws for us to live by.

01:33:38.000 The Omnibus Crime Bill.

01:33:40.000 Yes, the Omnibus Crime Bill.

01:33:42.000 And that was, alas, on Clinton's watch.

01:33:46.000 They never got a chance to put it through because the McVeigh thing didn't turn into a great national Uh, revulsion.

01:33:56.000 And you corresponded, you corresponded more than anyone else, uh, in the press, according to the press reports I've seen, or is that accurate, Whit McVeigh?

01:34:04.000 Yes, I did.

01:34:06.000 And he was somebody deeply concerned, I'm not saying that I approve of what he did in blowing up a building, and killing a lot of innocent people, but simultaneously he was a hero in the Gulf War, he got the Bronze Star, Army was eager to get him back in, And he's somebody who cared about the Constitution.

01:34:26.000 He was a rather learned young man.

01:34:29.000 And he wrote a number of pieces that were printed in newspapers at the time of his arrest.

01:34:35.000 There was a conspiracy back at him, and he was not going to sell out his fellow conspirators.

01:34:43.000 So suddenly he's condemned to death, and he decides, and he wrote this to me, he said, I have a choice now, he said, between Talking.

01:34:56.000 Or, uh, spending my life in a cement box.

01:35:02.000 Or, best of all, federally-assisted suicide. 0.67

01:35:07.000 And he said, I'm taking suicide.

01:35:09.000 Did you ever talk to Jollian West, his doctor?

01:35:12.000 No.

01:35:12.000 What'd he say?

01:35:14.000 Oh, just Jollian West was one of the psychiatrists assigned to McVeigh.

01:35:18.000 Well, I've read his report on McVeigh, which is, you know, he's perfectly sane and very intelligent.

01:35:24.000 Gore Vidal, let me ask you a question here.

01:35:28.000 Corresponding with McVeigh, now he was videotaped.

01:35:32.000 The FBI admits they've seen the tapes.

01:35:33.000 I've talked to police that have seen it.

01:35:35.000 What about John Doe No.

01:35:36.000 2?

01:35:36.000 Did he ever say anything about that Iraqi gentleman?

01:35:40.000 No, I've read about him.

01:35:42.000 He keeps popping up, you know, in all the material on this event.

01:35:47.000 And there were a couple of other Iraqis in town.

01:35:50.000 Oklahoma City is seeming a strange place for them to foregather.

01:35:54.000 Yeah, they got taken into custody later and they were ordered to be released by the Justice Department.

01:35:57.000 Were you aware of that?

01:35:58.000 No.

01:35:59.000 I wonder why that would happen?

01:36:02.000 Well, it was, uh... It certainly was a good rehearsal for what was coming, and my point I was about to make was that, uh, once this, uh, omnibus crime thing existed in the Justice Department, now we have A new Attorney General and so on.

01:36:23.000 It was put into effect.

01:36:25.000 It is the U.S.A.

01:36:26.000 Patriot Act.

01:36:28.000 It is the child of Clinton's immediate, hysterical, I think, response to what had happened in Oklahoma City.

01:36:37.000 And if H.R.

01:36:38.000 3162 is the son of the omnibus crime bill, what is H.R.

01:36:42.000 6133, the Military Commissions Act?

01:36:49.000 That's the invasion of Poland. 0.91

01:36:52.000 Oh, I agree with you there.

01:36:53.000 In fact, that's how my new film, Terror Storm, opens, is with Hitler. 0.81

01:36:56.000 You know, Hitler staged that attack on his own military base outside Blywoods to kick off the war. 0.63

01:37:02.000 That's now conclusively admitted to from the Nazi documents.

01:37:05.000 I mean, if Hitler could stage attacks on himself, why couldn't George Bush? 0.57

01:37:09.000 Because he had to finish reading My Pet Goat.

01:37:15.000 This is very difficult for him to read.

01:37:18.000 Well, you know, folks say that George Bush can't fight his way out of a paper bag, and that Rove and his handlers are buffoons, but I read an Israeli plan from 1983, and I read a 2002 Pentagon plan, which I could send to you if you haven't seen them.

01:37:30.000 I know you're very informed yourself, where they said they wanted to break the country in three parts, have it in a sectarian war.

01:37:36.000 Now, I think they were planning to cook a turkey.

01:37:37.000 They may have overcooked it, where it's imploding.

01:37:40.000 They went too far, but I think the strategy of tension and chaos was their plan.

01:37:44.000 I see that as genius.

01:37:46.000 I see Bush as an aspiring dictator showing great acumen, but you don't agree with that?

01:37:52.000 Oh yeah, but I don't think the brain is his.

01:37:55.000 I think it's Karl Rove.

01:37:57.000 I listened to him yesterday on television.

01:38:00.000 He's up in Buffalo, I think.

01:38:04.000 It's very, very clever and very mischievous. 0.75

01:38:08.000 I mean, this is a thoroughly bad man.

01:38:12.000 And quite interesting.

01:38:13.000 He was exciting the fears of everybody in the audience about everything.

01:38:18.000 They've got a mantra now, which is totally incredible.

01:38:22.000 If we don't fight them over there, we'll have to fight them over here.

01:38:26.000 Well, how the hell are they going to get here?

01:38:29.000 And to what end?

01:38:31.000 I mean, these are questions that you could shut these people up if there was any media to attack, or if there was a Congress which was capable of oversight.

01:38:40.000 Well, the Army's own report in the National Intelligence Assessment, unanimously, if you believe in the real terrorism paradigm, shows that this has increased the threat of terrorism two-fold.

01:38:52.000 I should think even more than that.

01:38:53.000 I mean, we've turned... There are one billion Muslims on Earth, and there are 300 million of us.

01:38:59.000 We are outnumbered.

01:39:01.000 And the money is also on their side, too.

01:39:03.000 We don't have it anymore.

01:39:05.000 But, sir, Gore Vidal, that's the neocon plan, is to P-2-O-G, the Pentagon Plan 2003, to, quote, stir up and elicit terror attacks, again creating the tension as a pretext to widen the war.

01:39:22.000 Well, I don't disagree with that.

01:39:24.000 I have no evidence of it, but it's certainly... That is what is happening, let us put it this way.

01:39:30.000 So if it is happening, it must have a parent of some kind.

01:39:34.000 Well, I agree.

01:39:35.000 Back to 9-11, sir.

01:39:36.000 Again, you're gracious to join us in a moment.

01:39:38.000 I'm going to plug the... In fact, I'll just do that right now.

01:39:41.000 Coming up is going to be the Texas Book Festival.

01:39:47.000 We have a link to this up on InfoWars.com.

01:39:49.000 Gore Vidal is the top featured speaker after Barack Obama.

01:39:56.000 Obama, The Audacity of Hope, and Gore Vidal will be the featured author of the Literary Gala at the 2006 festival.

01:40:04.000 He will be in conversation with Maureen Dowd on Sunday, October 29th from 2 to 3 p.m.

01:40:09.000 at the Paramount Theater, free to the public.

01:40:12.000 Texas Monthly editor Evan Smith will also moderate, and I hope to get 10 minutes with Mr. Vidal for the local television show.

01:40:19.000 He'd be gracious enough to do that.

01:40:21.000 I respect your research of history.

01:40:23.000 I respect What you're saying, I mean, you're spot on about the tyranny, you were spot on day one about 9-11.

01:40:30.000 Let me bring you back to this.

01:40:31.000 Do you remember a few weeks after 9-11 you were on CNN?

01:40:35.000 I guess it was a few months.

01:40:36.000 I tried to find the clip, but I saw it, one of my staff saw it.

01:40:40.000 One of my crew witnessed it.

01:40:41.000 And you're on there and you said, I just want to thank CNN.

01:40:44.000 This has been the first time in months I've been allowed to go on a TV show without military intelligence stomping around in the background.

01:40:51.000 Was that a joke, tongue-in-cheek, or did that really happen?

01:40:54.000 That really happens.

01:40:56.000 Happens quite often.

01:40:57.000 Oh, please, tell us about it, sir.

01:40:59.000 Well, I was on with... What is that guy?

01:41:02.000 Charles something.

01:41:03.000 He's got a morning show on CBS.

01:41:07.000 Huh?

01:41:07.000 Yes.

01:41:09.000 Yes.

01:41:09.000 I have blanked out his name.

01:41:13.000 Well, it's fine.

01:41:14.000 It'll pop in your head in a minute.

01:41:15.000 You were on a CBS morning show.

01:41:16.000 Go ahead.

01:41:17.000 Yeah.

01:41:18.000 And it was at the time of Timothy McVeigh's event in Oklahoma City.

01:41:25.000 And I was in Italy and they sent a crew over.

01:41:28.000 The crew came down from London for TV to be on the morning show and so on.

01:41:35.000 And Mr. Gibson, I think he's called, Charles something.

01:41:40.000 And I start to go into the background of why Timothy McVeigh did what he did.

01:41:45.000 He had declared war on the federal government because of what had happened at Waco.

01:41:51.000 And they had Gone out of their way to destroy a bunch of religious nuts who were all living in a compound with Mr. Koresh. 0.78

01:42:01.000 They killed men, women, and children.

01:42:03.000 And they could have grabbed him any day, jogging to town.

01:42:05.000 Oh, they could have done it.

01:42:06.000 So many things.

01:42:07.000 And also, they did the totally illegal, they used the U.S.

01:42:12.000 Army and its weaponry to incinerate these innocent people. 0.66

01:42:18.000 And that's, you know, The Posse Comitatus Act of 1875 says you may not use the American Army against the American people, no matter how much order you think you should be keeping.

01:42:30.000 And they did that, which broke the law.

01:42:33.000 McVeigh, who was momentarily out of the Army, where he had been much decorated in the Gulf War, became absolutely furious. 0.99

01:42:44.000 He saw that everything he cared about, and he knew about the Constitution, This was not just another dumb kid with a penis on him. 0.99

01:42:53.000 He was a very bright man. 1.00

01:42:55.000 And suddenly, he just went ape.

01:42:58.000 And he said, okay, if you're going to do that to these innocent people, he didn't know any of them.

01:43:02.000 But out of a sense of justice, which few Americans have, he decided, okay, I'll get back at them.

01:43:09.000 And I'll blow up the federal building.

01:43:11.000 But you're on this TV show, you're saying this, what happens?

01:43:13.000 I'm saying this, but I'm giving you what I'm saying.

01:43:16.000 Now, in the middle of saying it, The sound man, a guy from England, said they'd pull the plug on you.

01:43:25.000 I said, no, something's gone wrong with the machinery.

01:43:29.000 He said, no, and I've been talking, Mr. Gibson was trying, had contradicted me about Waco.

01:43:35.000 The government had done nothing wrong at Waco.

01:43:38.000 Well, everybody knew that they had.

01:43:40.000 And I said, well, everybody knows.

01:43:43.000 You can find out about it here, you can find out about it there.

01:43:47.000 In the middle of that, The sound, the audio was unplugged and I am talking into air.

01:43:54.000 Now I know how these things are done.

01:43:56.000 I've been on television for 50 years now.

01:43:59.000 I know how programs work and I also know how censorship works.

01:44:03.000 And if they were going to just get rid of you, they'd say, thank you, we're out of time, we're going to commercial.

01:44:06.000 You said military intelligence, and now we know that major media does have spooks in it.

01:44:13.000 Now CENTCOM admits they're planting fake news stories.

01:44:16.000 Bush has spent $1.6 billion in the last two years on illegal fake news, buying reporters.

01:44:21.000 Specifically, though, what do you know about the cases you've dealt with?

01:44:24.000 I can't point a finger at who the spook was or from what department he came.

01:44:31.000 I know that voices that they don't want to hear, instead of saying, as you suggest, you know, or using my favorite word on CNN.

01:44:41.000 Briefly, says Wolf, Mr. Vidal, what is the meaning of life?

01:44:49.000 Oh, I'm sorry, we're out of time!

01:44:50.000 Well, we'll get back to that after the break.

01:44:53.000 Which they do on purpose.

01:44:54.000 You can see somebody come on for 30 seconds, a minute.

01:44:56.000 This happened to me.

01:44:57.000 You said the wrong thing.

01:44:58.000 Boom! 0.99

01:44:59.000 Okay, now we're going to this film clip of something else.

01:45:02.000 And they hit the ejection button.

01:45:05.000 Oh yeah.

01:45:07.000 We are heavily censored, let us put it simply in one sentence.

01:45:11.000 But how is the elite, you talk about our overlords, how are they going to deal with the fact that alternative websites telling the truth can pop up and be bigger than the Dallas Morning News website in a matter of months?

01:45:25.000 Yes, folks, it took us eight years to get bigger than the Dallas Morning News at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

01:45:30.000 Now, 25-year-olds can start a website in three months.

01:45:33.000 Be ush! 0.87

01:45:34.000 Because they've got what people want to hear.

01:45:36.000 How is the establishment going to deal with that?

01:45:39.000 They'll find a way of wrecking it.

01:45:41.000 I don't know what the FCC is up to at the moment.

01:45:45.000 Well, you're right, sir.

01:45:46.000 That's what they're saying.

01:45:46.000 That's what they're now doing.

01:45:47.000 They're saying they're going to tax it, regulate it, shut it down.

01:45:50.000 Yes, of course.

01:45:51.000 They cannot have free speech in the United States.

01:45:55.000 Because free speech, ultimately, will define them, name them, and describe their crime.

01:46:03.000 And the decent opinion of mankind, as Thomas Jefferson would put it, will go into effect.

01:46:11.000 I have enough of an optimist to think that's true.

01:46:14.000 What about government-sponsored terror itself?

01:46:16.000 You're a historian.

01:46:17.000 I mean, I would imagine you certainly agree that governments do stage terror attacks against themselves to mobilize their population.

01:46:24.000 You know, waving the bloody shirt or agent provocateur.

01:46:27.000 There's different ways of doing it.

01:46:31.000 Can you comment on government-sponsored terror itself?

01:46:33.000 Well, we know quite a bit about it thanks to Herman Goering, who did all that sort of thing for Hitler. 0.55

01:46:41.000 And at Nuremberg, he was being interviewed by a rather bright journalist.

01:46:47.000 They just got down and started to really chat.

01:46:50.000 The journalist said, how on earth this most civilized country in Europe was Germany before the Nazis took over?

01:46:58.000 How could you get those people to fight these terrible wars and do terrible things in concentration camps?

01:47:05.000 Goering said, well, it's very easy.

01:47:08.000 Obviously, no sane man is going to join an army and get himself killed, even for loot.

01:47:16.000 People are not like that.

01:47:18.000 But he said, if you frighten them sufficiently, the Red Bolsheviks are coming, the Russian hordes are coming, they're going to sweep the Germans into the sea, they're going to destroy us.

01:47:30.000 Unless we fight them now.

01:47:33.000 Well, if we don't fight them over there, we have to fight them over here.

01:47:37.000 Even that mantra has been learned by the little man in the White House.

01:47:44.000 So, Goering put it very neatly.

01:47:46.000 You frighten people.

01:47:48.000 The fight keeps going.

01:47:50.000 We'll see before the election on the coming Tuesday.

01:47:56.000 We'll suddenly see that we've gone from orange to red.

01:48:01.000 We're in terrible danger.

01:48:04.000 All sorts of things are up there in the sky, and they're going to take out every American city.

01:48:09.000 And Albania has now developed hydrogen weapons. 0.59

01:48:14.000 The lies just go on and on, and there are no truth squads.

01:48:20.000 Programs like this, stuff on the internet, can squeak through.

01:48:26.000 But the press itself is absolutely captive.

01:48:32.000 Because they're owned.

01:48:33.000 I mean, not the press, but television, I mean everything.

01:48:36.000 All information.

01:48:37.000 50 years ago you had over 200 companies, now there's 5 and they're all merging.

01:48:42.000 Indeed, yes.

01:48:43.000 I mean, it's locked up.

01:48:46.000 And money did it all.

01:48:48.000 Now, how do these individuals get so much money?

01:48:52.000 Well, they are tithed by, let's say, the Republican Party.

01:48:57.000 Okay, we gave you a huge tax break, we saved Jones, uh, twenty million dollars a year for you.

01:49:04.000 So, we need a million or two for the coming election.

01:49:09.000 And Mr. Jones coughs up.

01:49:12.000 So instead of paying taxes, which would benefit everybody in the country, uh, he only gives the money to the Republican Party so they can keep on playing the game.

01:49:21.000 Would you put it past Bush or his controllers to stage a terror attack as a way of smokescreening all their scandals?

01:49:33.000 Well, how desperate will they be before they do that?

01:49:38.000 Secondly, could they do that?

01:49:40.000 What Bush has done, I don't think he understands yet what he's done.

01:49:45.000 Well, stay there.

01:49:46.000 Let's get the final answer on the other side with Gore Vidal.

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01:53:00.000 Jeremy has never been in studio before he works here at the office, but he said he saw Gore Vidal on CNN years ago, right after 9-11, days after, really, and Gore Vidal said something and he wanted, and I didn't want to pass it on, you know, what he said he'd seen.

01:53:17.000 I wanted to have him ask Gore Vidal the question.

01:53:19.000 We're going to take a few calls.

01:53:20.000 He's going to stay a little bit with us into the next hour.

01:53:22.000 Gracious to do that.

01:53:23.000 And we have links up on Infowars.com to his new book, Point to Point.

01:53:27.000 It's his memoir.

01:53:29.000 But finishing up that question that we ran into the break, Mr. Vidal, I mean, with all the other crimes of this administration and their overlords, do you believe that it is in their soul, do you believe that they are capable of staging some type of war provocation, some type of terror attack, blowing up a ship, something like that?

01:53:50.000 Well, they certainly know how to cry wolf.

01:53:52.000 Wolf, wolf.

01:53:54.000 And I don't mean just blitzer.

01:53:57.000 Simultaneously, I think what is going to happen pretty soon, let's say it was on their mind to stage an event, I don't know how they can do it.

01:54:12.000 Luckily for us, we the people who are the sovereigns, as they tell us, luckily for us they've antagonized the entire military.

01:54:22.000 I don't think the military would let them.

01:54:24.000 This happened when Richard Nixon was going crazy, and he was ordering out the troops, and he was ordering this and that.

01:54:32.000 And Israel was in danger, and Kissinger was sending all sorts of aid to them.

01:54:38.000 And something might have happened then, but the military wasn't going to let it happen.

01:54:43.000 And remember, I was born in the cadet hospital at West Point.

01:54:47.000 My father was the first instructor in aviation there.

01:54:52.000 I know these military people.

01:54:54.000 I've grown up with them all my life.

01:54:57.000 And there is a point that they really do believe in duty, honor, country.

01:55:02.000 They have to wait a time before they get to the point, but it's in them.

01:55:06.000 Well, let me just say this.

01:55:07.000 I agree that in major polls, 80 plus percent do not trust either party right now.

01:55:13.000 It's never been that high in modern polling, modern scientific polling.

01:55:17.000 And so it is a catch-22.

01:55:17.000 They've got the power, they've got the control, but more and more, you know, the brain gives the orders and the hands won't follow.

01:55:24.000 But I see him, again, having to do something or the system's going to fall in on him.

01:55:29.000 Jeremy, you wanted to state something that you saw Mr. Vidal say years ago, just weeks after the attack of 9-11.

01:55:37.000 Can you repeat what you... because I wanted to get his take on this.

01:55:40.000 Sure.

01:55:40.000 Hi, Mr. Vidal.

01:55:42.000 Hi.

01:55:43.000 I thought I'd seen you on a CNN news program Mr. Vidal, do you remember that?

01:55:46.000 I'm just trying to get at this.

01:55:47.000 surreal after the event, and it seemed that you were taken off of that panel right after that.

01:55:52.000 In fact, you said he went on to say it just doesn't make sense that they could do it.

01:55:55.000 What was the exact quote you heard?

01:55:57.000 That it was surreal.

01:55:58.000 He said it several times, I believe.

01:55:59.000 And then you added something in there after that because you told me the story before.

01:56:03.000 He had just said that it seemed surreal, that the whole story didn't seem to make sense, basically, was the context of the story.

01:56:11.000 Mr. Vidal, do you remember that?

01:56:12.000 I'm just trying to get at this.

01:56:13.000 No, I don't, because what made no sense is that CNN wouldn't follow up on why the fighter planes had not been scrambled and gone up to stop the hijackers.

01:56:28.000 That's the law of the land.

01:56:30.000 You don't need the president to order you, you don't need a general.

01:56:34.000 Those are your instructions.

01:56:36.000 I know, my father wrote them.

01:56:38.000 Yeah, Jeremy's not...

01:56:41.000 No, you're right.

01:56:41.000 Jeremy's nodding.

01:56:42.000 He's saying that's exactly what he saw, so now we understand.

01:56:45.000 Well, I mean, that is important, because the default position is for fighters to be launched.

01:56:49.000 The default... Did you know, sir, that for the first time since 57, when NORAB was set up, that Cheney took the powers two months before away from the generals to shoot down aircraft?

01:56:59.000 Did you know that?

01:57:00.000 No, I didn't.

01:57:01.000 We have the actual Pentagon order.

01:57:03.000 It's incredible.

01:57:03.000 What do you think of that?

01:57:04.000 Why has it not been published?

01:57:07.000 It's on the Pentagon website.

01:57:09.000 You know what?

01:57:09.000 I've got to send you some of my films during the break if it's okay.

01:57:12.000 Well, actually, I think I have your address.

01:57:14.000 I'll send you some of my documentaries.

01:57:16.000 Jeremy, thanks for bringing up that because that brought up some key info for Mr. Vidal.

01:57:20.000 Final segment with Gore Vidal on the other side.

01:57:22.000 We'll take a few calls.

01:57:23.000 Everybody have your questions and comments ready.

01:57:26.000 This has just been an amazing interview.

01:57:27.000 It's conclusion when we return.

01:57:33.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNLive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.

01:57:38.000 Terrible!

01:57:39.000 Big Brother.

01:57:39.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:40.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:45.000 Big Brother.

01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 The Director of Freedom to Fascism, Aaron Russo, also made Eddie Murphy's Trading Places and Hey Alex, how are you doing?

01:58:17.000 I've got two quick questions.

01:58:18.000 One for you, one for Mr. Vidal.

01:58:19.000 Just skip the one for me.

01:58:20.000 I'll put you on hold.

01:58:20.000 in the united states he'll be joining us coming up in the next uh next hour we'll take calls then as well uh again folks had so many questions i'm sorry we've got to cram the calls in here mike and mash you're on the air with gore vidal go ahead hey alex how you doing good sir thanks i've got two quick questions uh one for you one for mr vidal just just skip the one for me i'll put you on hold give the question to gore vidal okay mr vidal how are you sir Pretty good, how are you?

01:58:48.000 Great, thanks.

01:58:50.000 I'm sure you recall doing an interview with Sasha Cohen on the HBO comedy show, The Ali G Show, a few years back, where he came out dressed as a British rapper.

01:58:59.000 I was just wondering if you've seen that interview, and if at any point you realize that the interview is merely a comedy show where he purposely will ask outrageous kind of questions.

01:59:10.000 Did you know that Ali G was satire?

01:59:13.000 Yes.

01:59:15.000 I picked that up in about two minutes.

01:59:18.000 And it sort of dampened the show a bit.

01:59:21.000 Because I played Sapphire Back.

01:59:25.000 Right, right.

01:59:26.000 I noticed that.

01:59:26.000 Well, I'm a big fan of that interview, a big fan of yours.

01:59:30.000 Have you seen the show at all, sir?

01:59:32.000 Please come see my film. 0.97

01:59:33.000 If not successful, I will be executed. 0.94

01:59:36.000 Right, right. 0.98

01:59:39.000 He's very, very funny.

01:59:42.000 Especially when he goes to white supremacist houses and runs around.

01:59:45.000 Oh, it's incredible.

01:59:47.000 Okay, caller, I appreciate your call.

01:59:49.000 You heard his answer.

01:59:50.000 Yes, it's very funny.

01:59:51.000 Mark in Canada.

01:59:52.000 You're on the air with Gore Vidal.

01:59:53.000 Go.

01:59:53.000 Hi, how are you?

01:59:55.000 Good.

01:59:56.000 My question actually was about the NORAD's stand-down and Cheney's involvement in the Pentagon.

02:00:03.000 Yeah, any more on that, Gore Vidal?

02:00:05.000 We kind of cut you short there last segment.

02:00:07.000 Well, you hear excuses now.

02:00:11.000 I know that the Commission in Congress went on record, by and large they were pretty cowardly, they went on record immediately after all the questioning that they didn't believe a word that NORAD was saying.

02:00:25.000 As NORAD tried to explain what was going on and why the fighters had not been scrambled.

02:00:33.000 Do you think there should be a new independent investigation?

02:00:36.000 Of course there should.

02:00:37.000 And it would be a wonderful time to do it at the impeachment of Bush.

02:00:42.000 Do you think we might find more than just let it happen?

02:00:45.000 I think you might find everything.

02:00:49.000 We ought to know, but do not know.

02:00:51.000 Mark, anything else?

02:00:52.000 Yeah, like you, I can understand extending the benefit of the doubt to Bush and Rumsfeld saying that they couldn't have orchestrated it.

02:00:59.000 Would you extend that same benefit of the doubt to Cheney and his circle of oil barons?

02:01:07.000 There's no proof that Cheney is popular at the Pentagon.

02:01:11.000 I think he's regarded, as Rumsfeld is, as a civilian nuisance who should go back to running a pharmaceutical company and stay out of military affairs where he knows nothing.

02:01:24.000 If we had had an active legislative branch of the government, which we haven't, we have a bunch of political hacks who pretend to be the Republican majority.

02:01:33.000 Well, they are the Republican majority, but they do nothing.

02:01:36.000 They questioned us.

02:01:37.000 Alright, thank you so much for the call.

02:01:40.000 Very quickly, who's up next here in order?

02:01:43.000 Ed in Florida, you've got 30 seconds.

02:01:46.000 Mr. Vidal, I would ask you, I would beg you to please watch 9-11 Part 1 Mysteries Demolitions.

02:01:54.000 I'm hoping it'll change your mind about 9-11.

02:01:56.000 Yeah, I'm gonna send him a bunch of films.

02:01:58.000 Okay, great.

02:01:58.000 Look, given that Kerry gave up so quickly in Ohio and seemed to take a dive, and that Pelosi is the third wealthiest member of the House and an obvious member of the elitist establishment, do you see any change in the Military Commissions Act or policy when they take over the House?

02:02:11.000 Thank you.

02:02:12.000 More importantly... Go ahead, Caller.

02:02:15.000 There better be a change, or the Democrats will be told to go home.

02:02:20.000 All right.

02:02:21.000 Thank you.

02:02:21.000 Caller, thank you so much.

02:02:23.000 And I'm sorry to the other callers.

02:02:24.000 We're out of time.

02:02:25.000 I've already squeezed more time out of Mr. Vidal.

02:02:27.000 Mr. Vidal, I look forward to interviewing you for the TV show when you arrive in Austin in the next few weeks.

02:02:32.000 And thank you for your time.

02:02:33.000 Thank you.

02:02:34.000 Take care.

02:02:35.000 We'll be right back with Aaron Russo.

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02:06:19.000 He's been in the fight against the New World Order publicly for now over a decade.

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02:06:31.000 history to the United States.

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02:06:35.000 But all of that, I think, great accomplishments, pales in significance to the courage that he has brought forward in the fight against the New World Order, in the battle for our republic, America, freedom to fascism.

02:06:47.000 I had the honor of introducing him here locally.

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02:09:12.000 There are other films made about the Federal Reserve, 3, 4, 6 hours long.

02:09:16.000 They're good, but the average person is not going to, the average American, the MTV culture, is not going to watch it.

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02:09:28.000 And I am belaboring that because I believe in this film and I want you to see it.

02:09:32.000 Aaron Russo, thank you so much for joining us today.

02:09:36.000 Thank you for having me on, Al.

02:09:37.000 It's an honor to be with you.

02:09:38.000 It really is.

02:09:38.000 It's an honor to be with you.

02:09:39.000 We just had Gore Vidal on talking about government-sponsored terror and total fascist takeover, the death of the Republic.

02:09:46.000 I mean, it's just getting more and more obvious that we're in hot water.

02:09:49.000 Well, you know, that's why I made the movie.

02:09:51.000 I'm very glad to have Gore Vidal on the show.

02:09:54.000 He has a lot of smart things to say, even though I don't give him about everything.

02:09:57.000 But I think what's happening, and what has to continue happening, is that the country has to stop being polarized Between the left and the right.

02:10:06.000 We all have to come together and go against the real enemy.

02:10:09.000 And the real enemy we face in this country today is the banking system and the Federal Reserve System.

02:10:14.000 They're the ones who control, you know, and when you watch The Wizard of Oz, and they pull back the curtain and you see The Wizard controlling everything, well that's what's happening in America today.

02:10:23.000 The Wizard is the Federal Reserve System.

02:10:25.000 It's a tool of the international bankers to control the government, to control the people, And they must be brought down.

02:10:31.000 Shutting down the Federal Reserve System is the most important component of anything we can do in this country today.

02:10:37.000 Whether you're out there fighting for gun control or the environment, whatever issues you believe in, okay?

02:10:42.000 Put them aside for a minute.

02:10:43.000 As important as they are, they're not as important as shutting down the Federal Reserve System, and the focus of the movie, and everything I'm doing, and what everybody's focus in this country should be today, to win this battle, to save this country.

02:10:56.000 To stop the New World Order, to stop the North American Union, to stop SPP, is to shut down the Federal Reserve System.

02:11:03.000 That's what has to happen.

02:11:04.000 Well, that is the place from which this dark spring of poison flows, and I look at it as a twin star orbiting each other like a quasar.

02:11:17.000 Because what we're witnessing here is the two central issues.

02:11:21.000 The heart is the central banking system from which all their power flows, and then the key that they use to keep people in line to submit to them, and the police state is government-sponsored terror, and those two come together as a nexus.

02:11:34.000 So I agree, the central issue is the Federal Reserve Central Banking Cartel, and for those that don't know, the film covers it, get into, we have a lot of new listeners every millisecond, Break down what the Federal Reserve is and why it is central.

02:11:49.000 Well, the movie first of all deals with the IRS in the first instance.

02:11:53.000 Everybody knows the IRS.

02:11:56.000 Everybody can relate to the IRS.

02:11:58.000 So when I made the movie, I dealt with the IRS first because everybody can relate to it.

02:12:02.000 And when we prove the fraud of the income tax, I have a scene in the movie where I interview the former IRS commissioner.

02:12:10.000 I don't think it's ever been on tape before, that they've had an IRS commissioner... And he says in Yiddish, nothing will help you, basically, you know, you're dead.

02:12:18.000 Garnished health, he says, nothing will help you.

02:12:20.000 Because, he recently said that, he was so frustrated, because I got him to say on film, he said to me that the 16th Amendment is what allows the federal government to tax the labor of the people.

02:12:31.000 And I said, well, that was in 1913.

02:12:34.000 What about all the Supreme Court decisions between 1916 and 1923 that said you can't do that?

02:12:40.000 Okay?

02:12:41.000 And he was trapped.

02:12:43.000 And he said, uh, Supreme Court decisions do not apply to the IRS.

02:12:49.000 Okay?

02:12:50.000 And that's when he ended up saying, garnish my health, meaning nothing will help him because he was so frustrated, he didn't know where to go anymore.

02:12:56.000 But he admitted on tape that the Supreme Court has said that, and that they're doing it anyway.

02:13:02.000 You see?

02:13:02.000 And so, uh, the way I made the movie is when the public sees that, because to me it was so important that this movie not just be For the Freedom Movement, or the Patriot Movement, call it whatever you will, for the people who believe in freedom.

02:13:15.000 But for the people who are Americans, who don't really understand what's going on, this movie had a plate to them.

02:13:22.000 And so when we prove that the IRS has no authority to tax the labor of the people, then we get into the Federal Reserve System, then they begin to understand the fraud of what's happening in this country.

02:13:33.000 If everybody believes the government has the right to tax you, and when they learn they don't, and they see that fraud, Then they'll begin to see the rest of the frauds, and how the Federal Reserve System is controlling our government, giving us national ID cards, RFID chips, how they destroy the currency of this country, how they're trying to destroy the gold market and the silver market, because they can't produce those at will.

02:13:54.000 They can produce fake currency, you know, dollar bills, all they want, you know, but they can't produce gold and silver to control things.

02:14:02.000 They don't want people to think of metals as being a currency.

02:14:06.000 They want people to think you've got to have dollars.

02:14:08.000 Well, we all know the dollar's been destroyed.

02:14:10.000 I mean, my parents bought a house in 1955 for $27,000.

02:14:15.000 In 2005, it sold for like a million two.

02:14:19.000 The same house.

02:14:21.000 The value of the house didn't go up.

02:14:23.000 It was the value of the dollar went down.

02:14:25.000 They're destroying the currency of this country between what I call the three evil eyes.

02:14:29.000 Income tax, inflation, and interest rates.

02:14:33.000 People can't survive anymore.

02:14:34.000 And all those three things go to the bankers.

02:14:36.000 And it's a black hole.

02:14:37.000 The bankers admit in their own documents that the whole system is designed to bankrupt people, designed to blow out economies, designed to bring nations to their knees, so the bankers can then come in and literally repossess the entire society.

02:14:50.000 Then they put a police state in place, like they've done in Russia, like they've done in Argentina, like they do everywhere.

02:14:56.000 Well, it's designed to give the bankers power.

02:14:58.000 It's designed to put them in control of the people.

02:15:01.000 America's founded on a concept That we the people control our own lives.

02:15:05.000 Now the institutions control us.

02:15:07.000 We no longer control our own lives any longer.

02:15:09.000 We're no longer individuals.

02:15:11.000 We're chattel to them.

02:15:11.000 We're just sheep.

02:15:14.000 Okay?

02:15:14.000 And it has to stop.

02:15:15.000 And the reason I made this movie...

02:15:17.000 It's to get everybody to join together in a movement.

02:15:20.000 You are exposing the hoax.

02:15:22.000 You are, and again, it's a riveting film, action-packed.

02:15:25.000 It moves from point to point.

02:15:26.000 It will wake up the generally brain-dead public because they're not really brain-dead.

02:15:31.000 They've been mesmerized.

02:15:32.000 They've been hypnotized by the emperor's new clothes.

02:15:34.000 This does implode the hoax.

02:15:37.000 Right now, folks, we're carrying it.

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02:16:08.000 Aaron Russo has busted his butt to make this film.

02:16:11.000 You know, Terror Storm cost me close to $100,000 to make. 0.83

02:16:14.000 Aaron, I was talking to you a few weeks ago.

02:16:16.000 You said this thing cost you a million bucks, not just to make it, but to promote it and buy ads on national television and everything else you've done.

02:16:23.000 Well, it's more than that.

02:16:24.000 And the fact is that, you know, I received six Academy Award nominations.

02:16:29.000 I won Emmys and Tonys and all kinds of things.

02:16:32.000 I had to make the movie, you know, it took me two years of my life to make this movie.

02:16:37.000 And no one was paying me for that.

02:16:38.000 And no movie studio was willing to distribute the movie.

02:16:42.000 Even though they all saw it and thought the movie was brilliant, they said, yeah, we can't put this out.

02:16:46.000 We're afraid of being ordered by the IRS.

02:16:48.000 We can't put this out.

02:16:49.000 You know, I remember I got a telephone call.

02:16:52.000 Aaron, would I go on CNBC, you know, the news channel, And because they heard my new movie was coming out, they said, look, you're a big famous producer, come on, tell us, talk about your new movie.

02:17:01.000 We have this show called Power Lunch.

02:17:04.000 I'll be happy to do the show.

02:17:04.000 I said, sure, I'll do it.

02:17:05.000 And I send them a copy of the film.

02:17:08.000 And the next day they called up and canceled the interview.

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02:17:17.000 It was my job to make sure this movie gets out, that everybody sees it, that when you buy this movie, that you have house parties, you have people over who don't know what's going on in this country, so you can finally convince them of what the truth is.

02:17:30.000 And not only is the Federal Reserve in control of our lives, it's our job, it's our responsibility as Americans... You're right, stay there!

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02:17:39.000 Hey, Aaron, I hear a noise, you know who that is?

02:17:41.000 We'll be right back.

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02:22:12.000 Little piece of me Little piece of me Little piece of me Little piece of me Welcome back, Aaron Ruscio, legendary Hollywood movie producer.

02:22:26.000 Thank you.

02:22:26.000 Amen.

02:22:28.000 And much more.

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02:22:38.000 You were continuing talking about starting a national movement.

02:22:40.000 I know you can't disclose what you were telling me during the break privately, but there are a lot of heavy hitters who have seen it and are totally blown away because when people realize that this is matrix level, that the whole banking system is a fraud, everything you've been told is a lie about what's happening in this country, and they're getting ready to kill the hog, the fat Christmas hog they've fattened up.

02:23:01.000 Aaron Russo, please continue.

02:23:03.000 Well, the point is that the bankers control this country.

02:23:06.000 They control George Bush, they control Bill Clinton, they control the game.

02:23:10.000 I'm going to tell you a very brief story.

02:23:12.000 I was friends with one of the Rockefeller family, okay?

02:23:16.000 And he came to my house one night and we were talking.

02:23:19.000 And he said to me, and I loved talking to him because there was so much information that I got from the horse's mouth.

02:23:26.000 And he said to me, Aaron, what do you think the Women's Liberation Movement was about?

02:23:30.000 And I said, and I had fairly conventional thinking about that issue at the time.

02:23:34.000 And I said, I think it was about women having the right to work like a man does and getting equal pay with men.

02:23:38.000 It was about equality.

02:23:40.000 And he stopped and laughed and he said, Aaron, you know what? 1.00

02:23:42.000 You're an idiot. 1.00

02:23:43.000 I said, what? 1.00

02:23:44.000 Why? 1.00

02:23:44.000 Why am I an idiot? 1.00

02:23:45.000 He said, let me tell you something, Aaron. 1.00

02:23:47.000 Let me tell you how this thing really works.

02:23:49.000 We, the Rockefeller family, were behind Women's Lib. 0.61

02:23:51.000 The Rockefeller Foundation helped finance it.

02:23:54.000 We were the ones who got in the newspapers and television.

02:23:57.000 And you want to know why?

02:23:57.000 I said, yeah, tell me why.

02:23:59.000 He said, there's two main reasons.

02:24:01.000 I said, what were they?

02:24:02.000 The first reason was, we couldn't tax half the population before women could live. 1.00

02:24:08.000 And the second reason was, now we get the kids in school at an early age, and we indoctrinate them, and we teach them how to think, and the state becomes the parent now instead of the children.

02:24:19.000 And that's one of the reasons you woke up to the New World Order, because you're there sitting with the New World Order, and they're bragging about it.

02:24:24.000 You know, I learned about that about 15 years ago, one of the things that woke me up, I read Gloria Steinem's, one of her books, I forget the name now, she bragged that the CIA approached her, they set up Ms. 1.00

02:24:34.000 Magazine, they set up that rebellion to get women fighting with men, to get the family fighting with each other, so they could get the children, the taxes, according to the documents I've seen, were secondary, but still very important.

02:24:45.000 You're right!

02:24:46.000 And this is how cynical they are!

02:24:48.000 It's not cynical, it's evil!

02:24:51.000 This is how evil, those things on the basis of being honorable, like equality, But it's not about that at all.

02:24:58.000 They want to own us and control us like we're chattel, like we're cattle to these people.

02:25:04.000 That's what it is.

02:25:04.000 They want everybody in this earth chipped.

02:25:10.000 They want an RFID chip in everybody.

02:25:12.000 They want to live in a castle society.

02:25:14.000 Well, all money is in your chip.

02:25:16.000 Everything is in that chip.

02:25:17.000 And if they don't like what you do, they turn off your chip, and you can't buy food, and you can't do anything.

02:25:23.000 It's absolute control.

02:25:24.000 That's what they're trying to do.

02:25:25.000 I agree.

02:25:26.000 What else does Rockefeller tell you?

02:25:27.000 What other gems did you pick up?

02:25:28.000 I just told you another gem.

02:25:30.000 So he said that too?

02:25:32.000 Oh yeah.

02:25:32.000 How long ago was this?

02:25:34.000 Uh, this was probably, let's see, maybe four years ago, four and a half years ago, something in that neighborhood, maybe five.

02:25:41.000 You know?

02:25:42.000 And, um...

02:25:43.000 To me, all this stuff is just like... I'm the kind of guy that I believe in my individuality.

02:25:50.000 To me, the most important thing that a person can do in their life... Controlling your own destiny.

02:25:55.000 Well, you have to like yourself.

02:25:58.000 If most people ask you, what's the most important thing in life?

02:26:00.000 You'll say, well, your family, or your health, or your money.

02:26:03.000 I don't say yes to any of those things.

02:26:04.000 I think the most important thing in your life is to like yourself.

02:26:08.000 Because if you don't like yourself, that means you don't respect yourself.

02:26:11.000 And you're not going to like your family.

02:26:12.000 Most people are insecure.

02:26:15.000 I agree.

02:26:15.000 They're insecure.

02:26:16.000 They hate themselves.

02:26:17.000 And so they hate everybody else around them.

02:26:19.000 And they're driven.

02:26:20.000 And no matter how many baubles they get and Cadillacs and houses, they're not going to be happy.

02:26:24.000 But when you do like yourself, you've got to have a mission and be in the proper place.

02:26:28.000 And to like yourself, you have to respect yourself.

02:26:30.000 That means you have to behave in a fashion that you admire that somebody else was doing it.

02:26:35.000 You see, and that's the key.

02:26:36.000 And the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing is because I want to like Aaron Russo.

02:26:41.000 I want to be proud of myself.

02:26:43.000 When I'm sitting on my deathbed, I don't want to have any regrets the way I've lived my life.

02:26:49.000 I believe what the founding fathers gave us.

02:26:51.000 I believe in freedom of the individual.

02:26:53.000 And I believe that's our mission on this earth, is to fulfill God-given potential.

02:26:58.000 That's what I gave you when you were born.

02:27:00.000 And you can't do that.

02:27:01.000 And I believe these bankers are evil people. 0.97

02:27:04.000 And the battle we face on this earth today is not whites against blacks, or Jews against Arabs, or Republicans against Democrats, but good versus evil. 0.99

02:27:11.000 That's the real battle we're facing.

02:27:13.000 We're facing evil personified.

02:27:15.000 And we have to stop it.

02:27:16.000 We better all join together and stop being polarized and create a movement across this country that will sweep these people out of power.

02:27:24.000 That's what has to be done.

02:27:25.000 And I'm prepared to be part of that movement.

02:27:28.000 Yes, Aaron Russo, we've got a breaking in, a long segment coming up.

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02:31:17.000 Always that Catch-22.

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02:31:41.000 But then the root of this criminal group that's in control, that's using terror to basically cataphrod us into submission, is the banking system and its taxing mechanism of the IRS.

02:31:51.000 The 16th Amendment was never ratified.

02:31:53.000 I've studied it.

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02:32:46.000 Going back to Aaron Russo, Aaron I know you don't want to talk a lot about this because you're focused on the issue.

02:32:54.000 You talk about lying in your bed someday dying and I don't think that's going to happen for a long time.

02:32:58.000 We all pray that doesn't.

02:33:00.000 But you've had to beat cancer several times in your bladder.

02:33:02.000 You were just in Germany getting treatment and how did that go?

02:33:06.000 Oh it was fabulous.

02:33:07.000 They're brilliant over there.

02:33:10.000 They don't use over here.

02:33:12.000 They're not allowed to use over here.

02:33:14.000 Here they have certain protocols the FDA lays down and doctors have to go by those protocols.

02:33:19.000 Now here, didn't they just tell you to go lie down and die but then you went over there and they said no problem?

02:33:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:33:24.000 Here I went to the doctor.

02:33:25.000 He said, listen Aaron, you're a hopeless case.

02:33:28.000 And I said, oh my god, really?

02:33:30.000 And I was preparing myself.

02:33:33.000 But on the other hand, I said, I don't feel like I'm ready to die.

02:33:36.000 I don't feel like my mission is over here.

02:33:37.000 So I know there's something wrong.

02:33:39.000 And I went over to Germany and we took care of the problem and I'm healthy as could be right now.

02:33:44.000 I feel fantastic.

02:33:45.000 Everything is great.

02:33:47.000 They removed the tumors.

02:33:49.000 There's no tumors left in my body. 0.98

02:33:53.000 I'm healthy as a horse and I'm ready to kick some butt.

02:33:55.000 I just find it interesting, if you don't mind, what was the particular treatment and how this, I mean because there is a lot of, this was medical doctors too, in Europe things that are available there that aren't available here. 0.82

02:34:08.000 Well, as an example, in Europe, in this particular clinic that I went to, I can't say all of Europe, but this clinic, they do, they take your blood and they send it over to Athens, Greece.

02:34:18.000 And then Athens, Greece, they can actually test your blood and tell you which particular products work against your particular cancer, which they don't do here.

02:34:27.000 The next thing that you can do there is they can actually take chemotherapy, which I've always been against, because it's poison and it spreads around your body.

02:34:37.000 What they do over there, which they do not do here.

02:34:39.000 They localize it.

02:34:41.000 They target.

02:34:42.000 In other words, what they do with me, the cancer was around my bladder.

02:34:47.000 They would actually go into my artery and deposit some chemotherapy directly onto my cancer, shut off my blood vessel, so the chemo couldn't travel throughout my body.

02:34:58.000 So there are no side effects.

02:35:00.000 I just sat on top of my cancer and started dissolving it.

02:35:05.000 And then when it weakened the cancer, they went and did the surgery and took it out.

02:35:09.000 You understand?

02:35:10.000 Yeah, that's another thing I was reading about.

02:35:12.000 Let me finish one more thought, please.

02:35:13.000 And then they take the actual tumor itself and make a vaccination out of it.

02:35:20.000 And they vaccinate you so it can't come back.

02:35:23.000 Which they don't do here.

02:35:25.000 So, there's three methods right there that I'm telling you about that they don't do in America.

02:35:29.000 And I was reading about a lot of these treatments being done in Europe.

02:35:33.000 mainline clinics and hospitals in Europe, if you've got the money to pay, and they're having incredible success rates.

02:35:39.000 In fact, we always hear every few weeks, oh, a new cure for this, a new cure for that.

02:35:43.000 I remember hearing a year ago, the Japanese have a cancer vaccination, but again, it has to be made out of your cancer, and it works. 1.00

02:35:51.000 And so everybody's developing this stuff, but it gets shelved here in the U.S.

02:35:55.000 because there is a population control agenda.

02:35:58.000 Did you know that the Rockefellers, Aaron, actually in the 20s, spent tens of millions of dollars studying cancer?

02:36:04.000 And a lot of evidence shows that they were involved in the proliferation of cancer viruses through the vaccines?

02:36:11.000 Well, I didn't know that, but I do know that when I was scrumming with them, we had conversations about population control.

02:36:20.000 I'm bringing the population down in this world by a half, by a third to a half at minimum.

02:36:25.000 And I know they do things to accomplish those goals.

02:36:29.000 So you talked to one of the Rockefellers and they admitted that?

02:36:32.000 Yes.

02:36:34.000 Do you want to say which Rockefeller?

02:36:36.000 Well, I don't know.

02:36:38.000 My friend was Nick Rockefeller.

02:36:41.000 And, you know, I've been offered, you know, to join the CFR, to do many things.

02:36:48.000 And, you know, when I joined, you know, they would back a bunch of nightclubs for me and this thing and that.

02:36:56.000 Look, you know, here's the deal.

02:36:58.000 These guys own the banking system, and because they control the money supply, they control the government, they control the people, and just, it's like, now think about Barry Boggs, the great home run slugger.

02:37:07.000 If he had to go to bat, and he didn't have a baseball bat in his hand, okay?

02:37:11.000 Take these bankers away, take away the control of their making the money, and they lose their tool that allows them to control everything.

02:37:17.000 Take away this Federal Reserve System from these people, And you totally cripple them.

02:37:22.000 And that's what you have to do.

02:37:24.000 You must shut down this Federal Reserve System.

02:37:26.000 That is the thing I've come away with understanding.

02:37:29.000 That is the critical agenda that we must face as a people to stop this private banking cartel from controlling the money supply in this country.

02:37:37.000 And we can shut them down.

02:37:38.000 And the Congress has the legal authority to shut it down.

02:37:41.000 And we have to amass and organize and create a movement across this country.

02:37:46.000 The slogan that I have is Is one people, one movement, freedom for all.

02:37:51.000 That's what I believe in.

02:37:53.000 Well, Aaron, let me just briefly tell you a story.

02:37:56.000 I took my wife to the premiere of Freedom to Fascism, America Freedom to Fascism, here at the big theater at the mall.

02:38:03.000 I love people.

02:38:04.000 I think people are basically good.

02:38:06.000 I think they've been taught to think they're not good anymore.

02:38:08.000 She was going, "Oh, I like him.

02:38:10.000 He's so cute.

02:38:11.000 He's a little bulldog." She was so funny.

02:38:13.000 She said, "I like how he walks.

02:38:15.000 Look at him, a little bulldog." I do like people.

02:38:17.000 I love people.

02:38:19.000 I think people are basically good.

02:38:22.000 I think they've been taught to think they're not good anymore.

02:38:24.000 I think everything's been perverted.

02:38:26.000 I think we've lost control of our own lives.

02:38:29.000 I think it's been going on.

02:38:30.000 This battle's been going on for years, for centuries, for thousands of years.

02:38:35.000 And it's time that we take control of our own lives again and start putting up resistance.

02:38:39.000 In other words, what these guys try to do is they use the government to control us.

02:38:44.000 You understand?

02:38:45.000 And it's time that we resist.

02:38:47.000 It's time that we say, we are no longer going to cooperate with the government.

02:38:51.000 We are no longer going to cooperate with this.

02:38:53.000 We have to have civil disobedience.

02:38:55.000 Well, I agree.

02:38:56.000 We have to do what Martin Luther King did, we have to do what Gandhi did, we have to do what George Washington did.

02:39:01.000 We have to do and take our country back.

02:39:03.000 We have to take what's happening very, very serious.

02:39:06.000 I want to take some calls there, but I just want to add here that you also told me about a month ago when I talked to you when you were first really promoting the film in theaters, or maybe it was longer now, time just blast past us, Uh, but, that you were going to go on big radio stations too and people were calling up the stations saying, no, don't put that on.

02:39:23.000 They've had an active campaign to suppress your film.

02:39:27.000 Uh, I'm, I'm, look, the fact of the matter is that none of the big reviewers on television would review my film.

02:39:34.000 Uh, the reviews that were written, what's so interesting is the reviews that were written in the mainstream media have mostly been all negative.

02:39:41.000 And all the reviews on the internet have been fantastic.

02:39:44.000 The people give it standing... Every show we have standing ovations.

02:39:47.000 People love the movie.

02:39:49.000 The New York Times lies about the film.

02:39:51.000 I, you know, uh, the New York Times writer, uh, he wrote a whole thing saying that I was basically full of baloney, and so I went back to the New York Times, back to 1916, when the Supreme Court decisions came out about the income tax and the 16th Amendment, and it proved everything I was saying was correct.

02:40:09.000 So back then, the New York Times told the truth.

02:40:11.000 Now they lie about it.

02:40:13.000 You understand?

02:40:14.000 Everything today is fictitious.

02:40:15.000 It's a lie.

02:40:16.000 We live in an illusionary world because we live in a world where it's all controlled.

02:40:20.000 Our media is controlled.

02:40:22.000 We're taught what to think.

02:40:23.000 And we better wake up to the facts and realize that those of us who know what the facts are better organized together, stop being polarized, Absolutely.

02:40:32.000 Folks, again, we're in a false reality.

02:40:33.000 Aaron Russo's right.

02:40:34.000 across this country and stop talking about it and take action that's what it's going to take absolutely folks again we're in a false reality aaron russo's right we're talking to the producer and director of america freedom to fascism a powerful new film that you absolutely need to get today please purchase it from infowars.com right now I've seen it.

02:40:56.000 I'm telling you it's powerful.

02:40:57.000 And the new version, it's a little different from what was in theaters.

02:41:01.000 Can you describe for folks here in Russo how the final edition on DVD is even better than what people saw in theaters?

02:41:08.000 Well, first of all, the one that came out in the theaters originally, I was in Germany with cancer when the prints were being done.

02:41:16.000 And, uh, I wasn't there to approve it, and the prints were not nearly up to my, uh, standards.

02:41:23.000 And so when I came back, uh, and I saw the movie with the prints, and I saw the sound quality and what they were doing, I was not at all happy, and I pulled it from the theaters.

02:41:32.000 By the way, I mean, of course, I saw what you're talking about.

02:41:35.000 It's almost like work was put into screwing it up, or maybe I'm being paranoid.

02:41:40.000 Well, that's what I felt like.

02:41:41.000 I don't know if that was intentional.

02:41:43.000 I think it was negligence.

02:41:45.000 Because I wasn't there to supervise it, but it really bothered me greatly.

02:41:51.000 Yeah, but these companies know how to do that.

02:41:53.000 That's true, but I can't be accusatory without knowing the facts.

02:41:58.000 No, I know, but I mean, I've sent home movies off to have them put on the film that, you know, didn't, I mean, come on.

02:42:04.000 You know, I understand, and so I took it out, and when I stopped it, I went in and I started making new additions, talking about, you know, The North American Union, and start putting out other things.

02:42:16.000 The movie has much more information than it does today.

02:42:19.000 And somebody took an earlier version of the film and put it up on the internet, which is so far from being a finished version.

02:42:27.000 Yeah, that's not even the film you put in theaters, what they put on the web.

02:42:31.000 That was an early promo, not for distribution, only for folks to get an early review of it.

02:42:37.000 Yeah, but what happens is that people get so excited, they think they're doing a service to everybody.

02:42:43.000 By pirating and putting it out early, and they don't realize, they're not putting all the information out, and they're jumping the gun, and they're hurting the cause instead of helping the cause.

02:42:53.000 Aaron Russo, I want to take some calls, but the final version is available right now on InfoWars.com, as I said, but your film, I know you can't say any names, you told me off record, and I appreciate that confidence, I won't tell anybody, And in case the folks in front of the show heard anything, I don't think they did during that break, you didn't hear anything.

02:43:11.000 Only three of us know what Aaron said, even if the other guy heard it, so you didn't hear anything, or you know what happens.

02:43:18.000 It's a joke.

02:43:18.000 You will sleep with the fishes.

02:43:19.000 It's a joke, folks.

02:43:21.000 But to be serious, some big heavy hitters have seen this and are amazed.

02:43:25.000 Yeah, I mean, I got calls last week from one of the most powerful couples in Hollywood, from their representatives, saying they went crazy for the film.

02:43:33.000 And they loved it and they had to see it right away because I gave them a disc over it.

02:43:37.000 And it's happening quite a lot.

02:43:38.000 The word is spreading.

02:43:39.000 You know, the question is, are we going to allow it to be suppressed or not? 0.87

02:43:43.000 We also hear that Hollywood's a bunch of crazy liberals, and I've been there at some supposedly really liberal people's houses.

02:43:48.000 They're pro-Second Amendment. 0.89

02:43:49.000 They're against vaccines.

02:43:51.000 They know there's a population control program.

02:43:54.000 They know 9-11's an inside job. 0.60

02:43:56.000 They know the Democrats are controlled.

02:43:57.000 They know about the Federal Reserve.

02:43:59.000 I've actually found Hollywood, a lot of them know what's going on.

02:44:01.000 The problem is they're scared to death.

02:44:03.000 Yeah, they are scared to death.

02:44:04.000 A lot of them have the courage and the convictions, but I understand why.

02:44:07.000 But the fact of the matter is that it's going to be up to us to get this out and have parties, have people see this.

02:44:14.000 I tell you something, this movie will be a tool, an instrument to turn this country around.

02:44:19.000 I believe that from the bottom of my heart.

02:44:21.000 If the listeners take action right now and blow those phones off the wall, I just want you to have this information.

02:44:28.000 I have a lust for information.

02:44:30.000 I literally have a passion for exposing corruption, just like Aaron does.

02:44:33.000 We're kindred spirits on this.

02:44:35.000 I guess I have it because I've always been an individual most of my life.

02:44:39.000 I don't like being told how I should live my life.

02:44:41.000 Aaron, why do you have the passion and the courage that so many others don't have?

02:44:44.000 I mean, a few like Charlie Sheen do, a few like Richard Linklater do.

02:44:48.000 I guess I have it because I've always been an individual most of my life.

02:44:53.000 I don't like being told how I should live my life.

02:44:55.000 I don't like being a slave to other people's wishes.

02:44:59.000 And I believe that the whole point of life is to fulfill your potential that you were born with.

02:45:04.000 And to be who you were meant to be.

02:45:06.000 And you can't do that.

02:45:07.000 These guys don't want you to be that.

02:45:09.000 They want you to be a robot, a hamster on a wheel.

02:45:11.000 Well, that's because they're threatened.

02:45:13.000 They're threatened by free, dynamic human beings following their own destiny.

02:45:17.000 They're scared of our potential.

02:45:19.000 It's like a male lion going into the pride and killing the baby males.

02:45:23.000 He's trying to kill what can threaten his supremacy later.

02:45:27.000 Yeah, the difference is a male lion at least has courage. 1.00

02:45:29.000 These guys are cowards. 1.00

02:45:31.000 These guys are cowards. 1.00

02:45:32.000 They hide behind what they got. 1.00

02:45:34.000 They don't have the courage of anything. 1.00

02:45:36.000 They're evil, cowardly people. 1.00

02:45:38.000 I know these people. 1.00

02:45:39.000 And I'm telling you something.

02:45:40.000 They can be defeated.

02:45:41.000 They win because they have the psychology.

02:45:44.000 Oh, you can tell they're scared now!

02:45:46.000 They have people cowed in this country.

02:45:48.000 People, oh, we can't win, we can't do this, we can't do that.

02:45:52.000 Yeah, right, right.

02:45:52.000 A lot of whimpering.

02:45:53.000 It's nonsense.

02:45:54.000 You can win.

02:45:55.000 I know these people.

02:45:56.000 I'm telling you, you can win. 1.00

02:45:58.000 They're cowards. 0.98

02:45:59.000 Well, they wouldn't spend so much time and energy trying to suppress us if they weren't scared to death of us! 0.99

02:46:04.000 Well, of course they're scared to death.

02:46:06.000 They know that what they're doing is a ploy.

02:46:10.000 They understand That they're winning by default in the sense that people give up easily.

02:46:16.000 Well take the Bilderberg.

02:46:17.000 Take the Bilderberg group.

02:46:20.000 They are scared to death that it comes out that they're in a meeting and setting policy.

02:46:24.000 Tony Blair is now being confronted in Parliament about it.

02:46:26.000 Oh, and I forgot to tape it off C-SPAN last night with Prime Minister's questions.

02:46:30.000 I see there's so much going on.

02:46:31.000 I wanted to add that in a new film I'm making.

02:46:34.000 Somebody out there, if you taped it, send it to me, get it, whatever.

02:46:37.000 Let's take a few calls here.

02:46:38.000 Let's go ahead and talk to, who's up first here, Mike Enmesh?

02:46:43.000 Oh, Dave in California's first.

02:46:44.000 Dave in California, you're on the air, welcome.

02:46:46.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:46:47.000 This is Dave Short from Northern California, and I'm ordering America Freedom to Fascism as soon as I get off the phone, Mr. Russo.

02:46:54.000 Thank you, Dave.

02:46:54.000 You're welcome, sir.

02:46:55.000 Thank you.

02:46:56.000 I know you're going to be really happy you did.

02:46:58.000 I'm certain I will.

02:47:00.000 Let me ask you, sir, what's your policy on people making recordings of that?

02:47:05.000 That's my policy.

02:47:06.000 Look, you know, you can, but I prefer that people buy it, obviously, because I would put money into it.

02:47:11.000 Sure.

02:47:11.000 If you have to make copies of it and... I just want people to see it.

02:47:15.000 Okay.

02:47:16.000 Okay?

02:47:16.000 I want people to see it.

02:47:18.000 I prefer they buy it, but if you have to make copies, you do what you gotta do.

02:47:21.000 Let me just say this, because I live in the very position that Aaron's in, and very few people know what this is like.

02:47:26.000 Your passion, and it's not a good word, but I use it, it is a lust, okay?

02:47:30.000 I'm greedy.

02:47:31.000 I want the truth to get out, that's like gobs of diamonds in my hands.

02:47:34.000 I want to bring these criminals to justice, that's my passion.

02:47:37.000 But at the same time, if you don't support us, folks, we're not gonna be here.

02:47:40.000 Okay?

02:47:40.000 We need you to buy stuff from us.

02:47:43.000 Because if you don't, I can't, if I don't get my money back, I can't make the next movie.

02:47:47.000 You understand?

02:47:48.000 This movie wasn't made for a nickel, you know?

02:47:50.000 And if Ferry just makes copies and doesn't buy them, then I can't get the money back.

02:47:55.000 I mean, somebody said to me, here's a few million dollars, Aaron, and let us make copies.

02:48:00.000 I said, yeah, go make all the copies you want.

02:48:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:48:02.000 But if I don't get my money back, I can't make volume two or volume three.

02:48:06.000 So it's sort of...

02:48:10.000 You're in a rockin' hard place, catch-22.

02:48:13.000 In a sense, yeah, you are.

02:48:15.000 But if you feel the need to make copies, then go ahead and make it.

02:48:17.000 If you feel you can buy them, please buy them.

02:48:20.000 Good job, Aaron Russo.

02:48:22.000 Thank you, Caller.

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02:48:33.000 You're in that situation.

02:48:34.000 We are.

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02:52:13.000 It's $19.95.

02:52:13.000 Buy multiple copies.

02:52:16.000 Get it out to everybody you know.

02:52:18.000 Quickly, Kyle in California, then Mike and Robert.

02:52:21.000 I'll try to cramp Paul in.

02:52:22.000 Kyle, go ahead.

02:52:23.000 Hi, Alex.

02:52:24.000 Thank you very much for taking my call.

02:52:25.000 Thank you.

02:52:26.000 Um, I'm just calling, uh, for Aaron and you.

02:52:29.000 I personally have, uh, Terror Storm.

02:52:32.000 I have, um, all your movies, and I, you know, they're awesome.

02:52:35.000 And my friends make fun of me all the time about how terrorism is, you know, it's very- He wants freedom!

02:52:41.000 Kyle's weird!

02:52:44.000 And they just laugh at me, and it's annoying.

02:52:46.000 It really is annoying.

02:52:47.000 They don't sound like very good friends, because I can't beat people off of me with a stick who know the truth.

02:52:52.000 Generals and former CIA top people and folks on the streets.

02:52:56.000 It sounds like you're running with the wrong people.

02:52:57.000 You want to comment on what he's saying, Aaron?

02:52:59.000 Yeah, I think if you show them this movie, I think they're going to stop laughing at you.

02:53:03.000 Yeah, well, they don't want to.

02:53:05.000 It seems like they don't want to watch.

02:53:07.000 No, no, listen to me.

02:53:08.000 Listen, I've come across this before.

02:53:10.000 Show them this movie, they will no longer laugh at you.

02:53:13.000 I'm going to buy your movie, definitely.

02:53:16.000 I'm going to do that once I get back home.

02:53:18.000 And I'm going to buy another Terrastorm.

02:53:20.000 And, uh, I mean, I'm going to try giving it to my family and stuff like that, so... I can promise you this.

02:53:26.000 I've seen people's heads just turn right around.

02:53:29.000 I've seen people who didn't believe anything that Alex and I talk about.

02:53:32.000 And if they see the movie, they get it.

02:53:35.000 This movie brings it all together.

02:53:37.000 Yeah, Aaron interviews all the bigwigs, and they're just there being caught in their lies.

02:53:40.000 It's amazing.

02:53:41.000 Thank you, Kyle.

02:53:42.000 Gotta jump.

02:53:43.000 Let's talk to Mike at MASS.

02:53:44.000 Go ahead, Mike.

02:53:47.000 Hello?

02:53:47.000 Yes, sir.

02:53:48.000 Hey, Alex.

02:53:49.000 How you doing?

02:53:50.000 Good.

02:53:50.000 Back again here with a more appropriate political question for you.

02:53:55.000 I remember several days ago, somebody called in and stated that the Military Commissions Act shouldn't in fact be a law.

02:54:03.000 Because of the amount of time it took to go into signing.

02:54:05.000 So I'm just wondering if you guys ever... Yes, we looked into it and that was a misinterpretation.

02:54:10.000 Thank you.

02:54:11.000 It has passed into law.

02:54:13.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Robert in L.A.

02:54:14.000 Robert, you're on the air.

02:54:16.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:54:16.000 Thank you, Aaron.

02:54:17.000 I'm Robert in California here.

02:54:18.000 I was able to see your show on October 6th in Beverly Hills, Aaron.

02:54:24.000 And thank you for speaking.

02:54:26.000 It really woke up my girlfriend, too, who What really hit home for her was the actual chip part, but we've just got to remember that God hasn't given us the spirit of fear, but of power and love and sound mind.

02:54:38.000 Okay, now let me ask you a question.

02:54:39.000 This is important.

02:54:40.000 Your girlfriend, when she saw the movie, and after she saw the movie, did it change her opinions about what was going on?

02:54:46.000 Oh yeah, it changed her opinions.

02:54:47.000 She's believing more in the power of positive thought that will change the world, as well as I think we should take action as well.

02:54:57.000 Because I want people to understand the power of this film to change people's minds and understand what's going on in the country.

02:55:03.000 Robert, thank you.

02:55:04.000 Final call.

02:55:05.000 Paul in Vancouver, Canada.

02:55:06.000 Hit us.

02:55:07.000 Hi, guys.

02:55:08.000 Someone told me that it's possible to you can just associate yourself with U.S.

02:55:14.000 government and end your contract with them.

02:55:16.000 There's a lot of patriot mythology.

02:55:18.000 The government doesn't care.

02:55:19.000 They'll still try to enforce it.

02:55:21.000 You gotta wake the public up to the matrix fraud first.

02:55:24.000 The government just uses force.

02:55:25.000 They don't care about all these technicalities.

02:55:27.000 Believe me.

02:55:28.000 The yellow finger on the flag, the UCC code, all these things.

02:55:31.000 Yeah, they're great theories.

02:55:32.000 The government doesn't care about those things.

02:55:34.000 It's called tyranny, brother!

02:55:36.000 They don't care.

02:55:37.000 You can look for the legal loopholes you want.

02:55:39.000 They don't really care.

02:55:40.000 We've got to take it back with the Infowar and defend ourselves physically if need be.

02:55:44.000 Thank you.

02:55:45.000 Go on my website, freedomsoffascism.com and volunteer to help us.

02:55:49.000 Yes, okay.

02:55:49.000 Thank you so much for the call, Paul.

02:55:51.000 Thank you, Aaron Russo.

02:55:52.000 We'll have you up again soon.

02:55:53.000 Thanks for the time and Godspeed.

02:55:55.000 You too, buddy.

02:55:56.000 God bless everybody.

02:55:57.000 Take care.

02:55:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, you heard the man.

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02:56:14.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

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Alex Jones Show - October 23, 2006

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