Alex Jones Show - 20061027_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz will be joining us coming up in the third hour today.

00:00:38.000 He blew the whistle on how the IMF and World Bank are purposely trying to destroy economies, purposely bringing in a one-world government.

00:00:49.000 And right around the time he quit back in 2002, early 2002, thousands of pages backing up his claims mysteriously surfaced.

00:00:59.000 Of course, we know Joseph Stiglitz had nothing to do with that.

00:01:04.000 He'll be joining us coming up again in the third hour, a man of conviction, a person who at the highest levels of power in the global elite, at the highest levels of management for the global elite, had a conscience and didn't go along with what was being laid out in front of him.

00:01:22.000 Because once you get to that level, there's no putting a pretty face on it anymore.

00:01:28.000 It's about enslavement.

00:01:30.000 It's about control.

00:01:32.000 It's about domination.

00:01:33.000 A lot's made of John Perkins, who's a great person, very intelligent.

00:01:36.000 We've had on confessions of an economic hitman.

00:01:39.000 But he was at the very low level of this mechanism.

00:01:42.000 He was more of a, really a foot soldier, not even a sergeant in the ground war against the human populations.

00:01:51.000 But you talk about a four-star general, you talk about a Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff in the banking system, that would be Mr. Stiglitz, joining us again, coming up in the third hour.

00:02:04.000 And the documents are clear.

00:02:05.000 In fact, I was almost late getting on air.

00:02:07.000 I was in the next room printing off my famous interview with Greg Pallas that got printed in over 400 newspapers for some reason, especially in Latin America, to Italy, to Japan.

00:02:16.000 Dealing, I think the headline was, World Bank Documents Consume Argentina.

00:02:22.000 Because we had Pallas talking about when all this was happening, and the story we wrote about it went supernova, as they say.

00:02:27.000 Well, as I say.

00:02:29.000 It went viral and it was just his quotes, it was kind of a summation of what was in the documents, where they call it the IMF riot, World Bank riot, it's interchangeable, where they actually go in and destroy the economy by design, then there's a bunch of rioting, that makes it even worse, then they get to put in a dictator or a plutocracy and then they just have literal rule by the bankers over the people.

00:02:56.000 And how this works is, the bankers come in, the private interest, they buy up your politicians, they have them call it a Federal Reserve or a Bank of England, some federal national name.

00:03:03.000 It's totally private.

00:03:05.000 They then begin printing the money or instructing the treasurer to print the money.

00:03:08.000 And then they buy up the entire globe with their money.

00:03:11.000 And then with simple zeros and ones in the cashless society, it's even easier.

00:03:15.000 They just loan zeros and ones, just computer ballot sheets out of third world nations.

00:03:20.000 The fair world dictators are never meant to pay off the loans.

00:03:22.000 In fact, they're told not to.

00:03:23.000 They sign over the entire country into receivership in the fraud.

00:03:27.000 So it would be kind of like the bank covertly giving somebody a loan on a house and telling them, hey, we really just want the house.

00:03:39.000 Don't ever pay your monthly note.

00:03:41.000 But it's worse than that because at least there's a real house and supposedly the bank's going to have to pay off the note to whoever the original owner was.

00:03:50.000 Here, it's just all made up.

00:03:51.000 It's like if I went and paid off George Bush to call Alex Jones Federal Reserve, and I literally owned the money machines, I'd take over pretty quick, wouldn't I?

00:04:01.000 Total false reality, like so much in our lives.

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00:07:59.000 Big Brother.

00:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 Again, we have Nobel Prize winner in economics 2001.

00:08:37.000 1. - Okay.

00:08:39.000 Joining us is book Globalization and its Disconnects, Joseph E. Stiglitz.

00:08:44.000 And he left the World Bank back in 2002.

00:08:50.000 And all the documents began being leaked where they actually planned to go in and destroy economies.

00:08:59.000 Now, he is a big-time globalist, but It's going to be a very informative interview.

00:09:04.000 We've got 30 minutes with him.

00:09:05.000 We're trying to wrangle, beg, bootlick out an hour from him, but we can learn a lot.

00:09:14.000 So that's coming up in the third hour.

00:09:18.000 We actually bootlick here for you, ladies and gentlemen, to get these type of guests so we can expose the New World Order. 0.99

00:09:25.000 I'm just having some fun here.

00:09:27.000 We're also scheduled, as they say, to have Aaron Russo will pop in with us later to discuss some of the big developments with his film.

00:09:36.000 It's going gangbusters crazy right now on DVD.

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00:09:43.000 We have masses of news here.

00:09:45.000 Dobbs is saying the border fence will leave Texas a size hole.

00:09:48.000 Another big report that just came out documenting that they're not really even going to build much of the fence.

00:09:52.000 It's more smoke and mirrors.

00:09:54.000 Maybe those have a hologram of a fence there.

00:09:58.000 I shouldn't joke.

00:09:59.000 I'll give them an idea.

00:10:01.000 And just so much more, but right now I wanted to play this little CNN clip concerning Bush and not just the internets, but the Google.

00:10:09.000 It's now known as the Googler.

00:10:11.000 Why not start the main broadcast with a little bit of fun here, making fun of our supreme dictator, our supreme dear leader, Lord W. Bush.

00:10:19.000 Here it is.

00:10:20.000 He can handle a power saw, but when it comes to the power of the internet... I hear there's rumors on the internets Not once, but at least twice, President Bush has inexplicably added an S. We can have filters on internets.

00:10:37.000 Leading young whippersnappers to mock him.

00:10:39.000 Everyone's on the internet.

00:10:41.000 That's our fearless leader.

00:10:44.000 And now the leader dubbed Googler-in-Chief by the Wall Street Journal has struck again.

00:10:49.000 During a CNBC interview, the president was asked if he ever Googles.

00:10:54.000 Occasionally.

00:10:55.000 One of the things I've used on the Google is to pull up maps.

00:10:59.000 The Google?

00:11:00.000 It may be petty, but the Google had techno geeks agog.

00:11:05.000 I wonder on which one of the internets he uses the Google posted one.

00:11:09.000 He was just referring to it as the Google.

00:11:12.000 Like, the Donald.

00:11:14.000 Forget the Donald.

00:11:15.000 But I'm the decider.

00:11:16.000 And when the decider says the Google, the editor who's working on a sixth edition of Bushisms is the man to call.

00:11:23.000 Jacob Weisberg emailed back that he was eating the lunch when we called for an interview.

00:11:29.000 It's a little bit the way my mom talks about technology.

00:11:31.000 It's sort of sweet, kind of endearing.

00:11:34.000 She calls to tell you that she got an email.

00:11:37.000 President Bush said he uses the Google to look at satellite maps of his ranch in Crawford, Texas.

00:11:42.000 Reminds me of where I want to be sometimes.

00:11:46.000 But who are we to talk?

00:11:47.000 I had to get my producer to help.

00:11:49.000 So we're downloading Google Earth.

00:11:52.000 We're not sure if the president did this or knows how to do this.

00:11:55.000 I don't know how to do this.

00:11:56.000 Next thing you know, we were zooming in on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:12:01.000 You practically can see him in there.

00:12:03.000 He's on the internets.

00:12:04.000 Now I'm no fan of the internets.

00:12:07.000 Comedians and internet wags have immortalized the internets.

00:12:11.000 I hear there's rumors on the internets.

00:12:14.000 As for the Google, the company says it's flattered.

00:12:17.000 He can call it whatever the heck he wants to call it.

00:12:20.000 Besides, he's technically correct.

00:12:22.000 There is more than one Internet.

00:12:24.000 Internet 2 is a better, faster network used by universities and others.

00:12:29.000 The President's not the only politician to get tripped up by the Internet.

00:12:33.000 It's a series of two.

00:12:36.000 The Internet is a series of two.

00:12:39.000 through which goods and services travel.

00:12:42.000 Better to have those tubes tied than the president's tongue. 0.98

00:12:46.000 Cheney Moe's The CNN New York.

00:12:50.000 Very interesting to see that.

00:12:51.000 I forgot the name.

00:12:51.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:53.000 So there you have it.

00:12:55.000 Let's now get into the censorship now going on, widespread globally on the Internet.

00:13:02.000 Internets, excuse me.

00:13:05.000 Before I even watched the whole clip, I was thinking, well Bush is actually right in a weird way.

00:13:08.000 It is the Internets.

00:13:10.000 There's a whole bunch of private Internets.

00:13:12.000 It grew out of the DARPAnet, the ARPAnet.

00:13:16.000 The NSA really set it up along with the CIA and a bunch of other federal agencies went back in the sixties and seventies then Al Gore was involved in the vote to fund and expand the internets uh... went back in the eighties that's why he claims as a senator he invented it that's kind of like if I designed a new Ford Mustang and then claimed I'd invented the automobile it's pretty ridiculous but uh...

00:13:44.000 Everyone's already gone over that.

00:13:46.000 We know the facts concerning it.

00:13:48.000 But here are the reports in front of me today.

00:13:50.000 Here's BBC.

00:13:51.000 Free speech online under threat.

00:13:53.000 Bloggers are being asked to show their support for freedom of expression by Amnesty International.

00:13:58.000 The Human Rights Group also wants weblog writers to highlight the plight of fellow bloggers jailed For what they wrote in their online journals, the organization said fundamental rights such as free speech face graver threats than ever before.

00:14:10.000 The campaign coincides with the start of a week-long UN-organized conference that will debate the future of the net.

00:14:14.000 Yeah, they're meeting in Europe right now.

00:14:17.000 The EU's announcing you'll be arrested if you upload any video.

00:14:20.000 And I mean video of you mowing your lawn, video of a baseball game, video of anything.

00:14:27.000 You'll have to have special licenses and pay tens of thousands of dollars and have everything screened through Internet to ports to then authorize being able to post it.

00:14:37.000 They're also moving to, quote, ban any type of hate speech in Europe, and they're saying that they'll try to then enforce that against Internet service providers and against search engines.

00:14:48.000 So it's happening everywhere.

00:14:49.000 You notice as soon as Google announced their motto now, be evil, that they would censor almost everything.

00:14:55.000 It's millions of things they censor, even jokes, talk of alcohol, talk of just many things are banned in China, not just politics.

00:15:04.000 that That's now being done out of hubs in Tel Aviv and here in the United States, where Google has its main bases out on the West Coast and in Israel.

00:15:12.000 And they're now, we saw right when that started about a year ago, censorship starting here in Google in the West.

00:15:18.000 I guess Google.com, not Google China or whatever.

00:15:21.000 So they're doing it to light gangbusters, and it's happening all over the place.

00:15:27.000 Freedom of expression online is a right, not a privilege, but it's a right that needs to be defended since Steve Ballinger of Amnesty International.

00:15:34.000 We're asking bloggers worldwide to show their solidarity with web users in countries where they face jail for just criticizing the government.

00:15:41.000 But of Amnesty, I'm reading what Ballinger said wants to really fight censorship.

00:15:44.000 He wouldn't just talk about the UN debating its future.

00:15:47.000 The UN, the EU, our own government is openly talking about taxing it, regulating it, controlling it.

00:15:53.000 And they're just going to openly start shutting down net neutrality, where the basic internet will fail.

00:16:00.000 And they're not going to upgrade the major hubs.

00:16:02.000 They've been saying this for a decade.

00:16:03.000 It's now starting.

00:16:04.000 And then they will quote, oh, there's one that really works.

00:16:07.000 And oh, we have much better connectivity.

00:16:09.000 Basically, all the new big backbone they're putting in, which is TV quality streaming and downloading, that will only be available if you go on to Internet 2 that is not free, that is government slash private.

00:16:23.000 A collusion between government and corporations, classic corporatism or fascism.

00:16:27.000 Then if you waive all your rights, then you may be able to have a subdomain with them.

00:16:31.000 So, it's not enough they're just going to build their internet too, which they've now constructed and is now up and running and able to take millions of people on it each day.

00:16:39.000 It's not just that.

00:16:40.000 Now they're going to shut down the old highways and force you onto their surveilled, restricted toll roads.

00:16:48.000 In cyberspace we see the same thing happening in the real world where they're going to shut down, restrict, stop repairing the existing entire infrastructure of the United States and shift you over onto either existing roads that are turned into toll roads or onto the new roads that will all be toll roads and those are international toll roads funding the North American Union.

00:17:10.000 Everything is being seized, being looted, being grabbed.

00:17:13.000 They call it privatization, but if you pay with your taxes to build something, and then it's given to private interest, basically given to them, they just pay off a few politicians, and then they start raping you and taxing you, the lion's share of it going to private companies and a large portion of it going to different global government expansion programs.

00:17:34.000 Again, that's what's happening.

00:17:36.000 And it's happening right now.

00:17:38.000 Here is another article by Paul Watson from PrisonPlanet.com.

00:17:42.000 And again, the entire article has links to mainstream news admitting what's happening.

00:17:46.000 Now Europe targets bloggers as terrorists.

00:17:49.000 UK-EU crackdown on spreading propaganda mirrors US assault on the Internet.

00:17:55.000 The Bush Administration's efforts to infiltrate, misdirect, regulate, and pollute the Internet with neocom propaganda, which they now, CENTCOM admits they're doing, the military is engaging in propaganda domestically on the Internet, as well as their openly stated agenda to target American bloggers as terrorists, That's Bush, that's Homeland Security Director Chertoff, they're all saying it, is now being ate by the British government across the pond, as well as other major European countries.

00:18:20.000 House Secretary John Reid met with ministers from six largest European Union countries, and according to the BBC report, agreed to work together, if we work together, agreed to work together to make the internet a more hostile place for terrorists.

00:18:36.000 How will they accomplish this by initiating a crackdown on people who use internet to quote spread propaganda was the quote.

00:18:43.000 The very website you're now reading would be considered propaganda and is being blocked by the military servers.

00:18:48.000 We have that confirmed.

00:18:49.000 It is being blocked by many companies.

00:18:51.000 It is being blocked by most city, county, and university libraries.

00:18:56.000 Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.net, JonesReport.com, ArnoldExposed.com, MarshallLaw911.info, And so many more right now are being blocked.

00:19:08.000 You ought to ask yourselves why.

00:19:09.000 It's already begun, folks.

00:19:11.000 Again, this very website you're now reading would be considered propaganda by these neo-fascists, no matter the fact that the criminal syndicates Bush and Blair front for are the most deceitful presenters of lurid propaganda since the Third Reich.

00:19:23.000 The Purge also aims to use the Internet and other media to target young audiences with state Approved indoctrination PR spin on how the war on terror is really not about imperial hegemony and crushing liberties at home.

00:19:37.000 Reid himself is no longer, and is no stranger to the strong arm tactics of despots, a former hardcore Stalinist member of the Scottish Communist Party and an alcoholic bully with a penchant for thumping people in the face. 0.99

00:19:50.000 He's the guy the other day that said when they had a prison riot, just shoot and kill everyone. 0.99

00:19:54.000 He could become the next Prime Minister. 1.00

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00:24:48.000 You know, for Aaron Russo or myself or most of my listeners, it's kind of old hat.

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00:24:54.000 We know the IRS.

00:24:55.000 There's no law forcing you to pay it.

00:24:57.000 We know the 16th Amendment wasn't ratified.

00:24:58.000 But for the general public in America, I remember beating my brains out 12, 13 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, doing hundreds of shows on the Federal Reserve and the income tax, and people didn't seem to get it.

00:25:11.000 They couldn't believe it.

00:25:12.000 Now everybody's talking about it on mainstream radio.

00:25:15.000 Now I hear people talking about it in grocery store lines.

00:25:17.000 Now people, again, it takes time.

00:25:20.000 It's like in the guns of Navarone.

00:25:22.000 Uh, which is based on a true story where they blow up the dam, but the dam doesn't break right away.

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00:25:36.000 And so we've been sitting here bombing away at the New World Order and the Infowar, blowing holes in their fraud. 0.54

00:25:42.000 Poking holes in this electronic Berlin wall, and finally it's being ripped asunder and the sunlight is pouring through.

00:25:49.000 Aaron Russo, I commend you on your long haul making the film, the adversity you've gone through making it.

00:25:55.000 You're not just a top Hollywood producer with some of the biggest hits in US history, some of the biggest comedies.

00:26:01.000 You didn't just bring The Who and Led Zeppelin to the US.

00:26:04.000 You also, I was reading, you also invented bikini underwear.

00:26:08.000 You killed granny panties.

00:26:12.000 Yes, I did.

00:26:13.000 That's the truth.

00:26:14.000 I was just a kid then, but I created the first ladies bikini underwear in America.

00:26:19.000 That's the truth.

00:26:20.000 Well, I want to thank you for that.

00:26:24.000 One of my many accomplishments, right?

00:26:28.000 Let's try to have some fun.

00:26:30.000 I think a good way to start out is we've only got a few minutes in this segment.

00:26:30.000 You know what?

00:26:33.000 We'll come back and get into the phenomenal success of the film on DVD.

00:26:36.000 Just four days into its release, four and a half days right now.

00:26:39.000 Tell us a little bit about Aaron Russo for those that don't know about you.

00:26:43.000 I've been a very fortunate guy.

00:26:44.000 I've had a very, very successful career.

00:26:47.000 I've made some of the biggest movies in Hollywood.

00:26:50.000 Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Danny Aykroyd.

00:26:53.000 The Rose with Bette Midler.

00:26:54.000 I won an Emmy, a Tony, Grammys, Academy Award nominations.

00:26:59.000 We've won Golden Globes.

00:27:01.000 I've been very blessed.

00:27:02.000 I've been very, very lucky, very fortunate.

00:27:05.000 I know how to make movies and I made this movie because My conscience won't let me do anything but make this movie.

00:27:13.000 The truth is that America is heading into complete totalitarianism, as you know, as your audience knows.

00:27:19.000 We know the Federal Reserve is a fraud, and the Sixteenth Amendment was never ratified, and there's no law that makes you pay an income tax.

00:27:26.000 And I thought I would take my movie-making skills and my political knowledge and make a movie that the public could understand, that's something that Patients and people into the freedom movement could show other people because it's very hard when people try to talk to other people about what's happening in this country.

00:27:45.000 People get glassy.

00:27:46.000 I don't really understand it.

00:27:47.000 When they see this movie, they really get it.

00:27:50.000 So I thought I'd make this movie so that people can comprehend the truth of what's happening because people don't really read that much anymore.

00:27:57.000 So books don't work as well as a movie works.

00:28:00.000 And the movie's been incredibly successful.

00:28:02.000 Well, that's right.

00:28:03.000 I think only, what, 4% of Americans read one book a year?

00:28:06.000 If that much, yeah.

00:28:07.000 I mean, it's scary.

00:28:10.000 All of our top graduates are foreigners.

00:28:12.000 The debt is at record levels.

00:28:15.000 Private, corporate, federal, state debt.

00:28:18.000 Everything literally is falling apart.

00:28:20.000 And we've got the average family is more in debt.

00:28:24.000 We have a higher debt ratio than we did in the depths of the depression in late 1933.

00:28:27.000 I mean, I'm scared.

00:28:29.000 I was sitting You know, at a gas station getting gas this morning, just looking at these young people, they have no idea what's ahead for them.

00:28:38.000 Well, the truth is, they have no future.

00:28:39.000 The government has unfunded liabilities of around $80 trillion.

00:28:43.000 That's right.

00:28:45.000 And, you know, the money has to be created out of thin air to pay for that.

00:28:49.000 And so it's going to destroy the currency of this country.

00:28:52.000 And that's why they want to chip us, so we can just keep making, you know, money that they put into our chips through computed digits.

00:29:00.000 So there's no accountability for what they're doing.

00:29:03.000 And the fact is, I made this movie because it's time for the American public to know the truth about what's happening.

00:29:11.000 And I figured that if I made a movie that was understandable, and the truth is that the movie gets standing ovations wherever it plays.

00:29:18.000 And the DVDs are flying out, people are buying them like crazy, we're having house parties, and we're turning people on to the truth of what's happening in the country.

00:29:28.000 That's the first step in the movement.

00:29:30.000 Absolutely.

00:29:31.000 Stay there.

00:29:32.000 Let's really talk about, let's chronicle the film.

00:29:35.000 Run the gamut, the gauntlet with Aaron Russo.

00:29:39.000 We're very honored to have him for the rest of this hour.

00:29:41.000 Nobel Prize winner, former head of the World Bank, Joseph Stiglitz, joining us in the third hour.

00:29:47.000 Open phones in the second.

00:29:49.000 Stay with us.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:24.000 You're living to see it.

00:33:34.000 You got front row seats to a bunch of wolves disemboweling the Republic right in front of you.

00:33:42.000 I have the Associated Press today.

00:33:44.000 Dick Cheney in a televised interview said that, yeah, we're waterboarding people.

00:33:49.000 It was a quote, no brainer for me.

00:33:53.000 Waterboarding simulates death over and over again.

00:33:55.000 It is one of the most brutal forms of torture.

00:33:58.000 It, of course, was the favorite used by the French and the Spanish during the Inquisition.

00:34:05.000 And we're going to go over that a little bit later.

00:34:07.000 I hope that you'll get angry at these people.

00:34:09.000 I hope you will explode in anger in the information war and join us.

00:34:14.000 And I'm telling you, call all your friends.

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00:34:17.000 Tell them to bring their friends.

00:34:18.000 Get out the pizza.

00:34:20.000 Get out the popcorn.

00:34:22.000 And get all your friends over there. 0.53

00:34:24.000 Watch America, Freedom to Fascism.

00:34:26.000 Another week, another Saturday or Sunday night or Friday night, whatever.

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00:34:31.000 By the way, Just for another week or so, I'm going to have this special up.

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00:34:57.000 I'm offering that special right now because I want you to have America Freedom to Fascism. 0.81

00:35:03.000 And I heard Aaron on another talk show yesterday just say, I don't care anymore to make copies of my DVD, but I say the same thing about Terror Storm, but if you want us to be able to make films in the future, Aaron's cost a million to make and then he said a lot more to promote and I saw it.

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00:35:56.000 It seemed a lot of us in this kind of not current wave but the last wave, there were people fighting this New World War 50 years ago, 60 years ago, 100 years ago, but people in the last wave, the last big wave before this new one, all woke up about 95.

00:36:12.000 I woke up about 94, got involved in 95, started the TV show and radio show in 96.

00:36:19.000 And I guess the TV show before that and the radio in 96.

00:36:22.000 That's around the time Aaron Russo really got active.

00:36:26.000 And so many others started right at that time, and now we're seeing it's exponential.

00:36:31.000 This new awakening dwarfs that, I'd say, a thousand to one.

00:36:36.000 And I see another wave starting even quicker.

00:36:38.000 So it's kind of like a drumbeat.

00:36:39.000 It's getting quicker and faster and closer together.

00:36:42.000 And the elite's getting scared.

00:36:43.000 They're openly saying they're going to start shutting the web down.

00:36:45.000 They're starting mass censorship everywhere.

00:36:46.000 Aaron's been through hell with censorship and harassment trying to make this film.

00:36:50.000 Aaron, tell us about some of that.

00:36:52.000 The most interesting one that happened was Now, having been a big movie producer in my life, when this movie came out, I got a call from CNBC, the business news channel, and they asked me to come on this show called Power Lunch with Bill Griffith, and I forget the girl's name who's on with him, and they wanted to talk about my movie.

00:37:13.000 They called up, you know, you're a big movie producer, come talk about your new movie.

00:37:17.000 I said, great, sure, I'd be happy to.

00:37:19.000 I was a little bit surprised, so I sent them the movie, the disc, they wanted to see it, And, uh, I phoenixed them the next day after that.

00:37:28.000 They called up and they canceled the interview.

00:37:31.000 And they just don't want people on the mainstream media, they don't want you talking about the IRS and the fact that there's no law.

00:37:37.000 They don't want you talking about the Federal Reserve being a private bank.

00:37:40.000 They want the Federal Reserve clothed in respectability, you know.

00:37:44.000 If Alan Greenspan speaks or Ben Bernanke talks now, you know, oh, let's listen to what they're saying.

00:37:51.000 They don't want you to know that it's right out of the Communist Manifesto, the central bank, you know.

00:37:56.000 And so they cancel my interview on the air.

00:37:58.000 None of the mainstream press will give me a good review, but the internet press is raving about the movie, standing ovations everywhere we go.

00:38:05.000 I mean, it's really amazing to see the dichotomy of what's happening, because the movie is really, really good.

00:38:12.000 And the movie turns people on.

00:38:13.000 I mean, whether you've been in this game for a long time, you know what's happening to this country.

00:38:19.000 People love the movie, particularly the interview with the IRS commissioner.

00:38:23.000 You know, when he says on camera that Supreme Court decisions are irrelevant to the IRS.

00:38:29.000 Tell them what some of the judges say in the film.

00:38:31.000 Ah, the judge.

00:38:32.000 This is great.

00:38:33.000 There's a fellow named Erwin Schiff who's been fighting this battle for a long time.

00:38:36.000 And he was in court, in federal court, fighting his battle.

00:38:40.000 And he was talking to the jury.

00:38:43.000 And he was trying to explain to the jury that there was no law that requires you to pay a tax on your labor.

00:38:50.000 And this is a direct quote right from the judge.

00:38:52.000 The judge says, I will not allow the law in my courtroom!

00:39:00.000 I will not allow the law in my courtroom!

00:39:02.000 Supreme Court decisions are irrelevant!

00:39:05.000 Supreme Court decisions don't matter! 0.76

00:39:07.000 You know?

00:39:08.000 The whole thing's a fake!

00:39:09.000 It's a fraud!

00:39:10.000 And that's the beauty of it, because, you know, when the public sees that, because everybody knows the Supreme Court is the final arbiter, you know, in this country.

00:39:19.000 And when they see the IRS Commission is saying Supreme Court decisions don't matter to the IRS, People go, oh my God, that can't be possible!

00:39:26.000 You know, and so the movie really wakes people up.

00:39:30.000 And it's very, very effective.

00:39:32.000 It's the most effective weapon I've seen so far, or tool, to wake up the sleeping masses.

00:39:37.000 You know, because it's just, it's enormous the way this thing is popping.

00:39:41.000 You know, the movie is going out the doors like crazy.

00:39:43.000 Well, you know you're selling them there.

00:39:45.000 And you know the kind of orders you're getting for them.

00:39:48.000 And because the movie really tells the truth.

00:39:50.000 And I'm telling you, you have house parties.

00:39:52.000 We can change things in 2008.

00:39:53.000 This movie is a great thing to send to juries who are sitting on cases.

00:40:00.000 Get it to all the jury members.

00:40:02.000 You know, sitting on tax cases or any kind of case.

00:40:04.000 If you want to be free, you're going to have to fight for it.

00:40:07.000 It's simple.

00:40:08.000 History, common sense has shown us, you know, the laws of human activity, is that if you aren't involved in fighting for your freedom, you will be enslaved.

00:40:19.000 And we had so much liberty, so much freedom in this country, and now look, at every level, every indicator is we're going into full bore command and control.

00:40:29.000 There's no question.

00:40:30.000 Look, in America, we've had a small...

00:40:32.000 Throughout history, America was a small window of freedom.

00:40:36.000 We've had it, and we're blowing it, we're giving it back.

00:40:38.000 Instead of preserving that window we had, that precious gift that we were given, instead of protecting it, we're losing it.

00:40:46.000 And it's time that we fight back and keep what we were given.

00:40:49.000 Do not allow this precious gift to be taken away from us.

00:40:53.000 And we've got to do everything in our power to do it.

00:40:55.000 And that's the bottom line.

00:40:56.000 Look, you know, it's really, I know the Rockefeller people, I've been I've been asked to join the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:41:05.000 I've been at the top of the game.

00:41:06.000 I know all the people.

00:41:07.000 I know how this thing is played.

00:41:09.000 And let me tell you something. 1.00

00:41:10.000 These guys are cowards. 1.00

00:41:11.000 They're evil. 1.00

00:41:12.000 And something better be done right now.

00:41:14.000 And the people better wake up and do something.

00:41:16.000 And that's why I made the movie.

00:41:18.000 That's why I'm going out of my way to get this movie out there.

00:41:20.000 That's what I'm telling you.

00:41:21.000 Buy a copy.

00:41:22.000 Make copies of it.

00:41:23.000 Get it out to everybody.

00:41:24.000 Go hand it out in the street corners.

00:41:25.000 Let people see the truth of what's happening in this country.

00:41:28.000 You said you were... It was Nick Rockefeller you were friends with, right?

00:41:31.000 Yes.

00:41:32.000 And after he was done saying, hey, we created the feminist movement to make sure that the family got broken up and all the women had to pay taxes, we did this, we did that, you know, we want population reduction. 0.96

00:41:43.000 I mean, what did you say back to him? 0.98

00:41:45.000 And what gave you the perspective that they're a bunch of cowards? 0.96

00:41:50.000 Well, you know, when you hang out with people like this and you see how they operate and how they function and the kind of glee they take in other people's misery, you know that They can't stand up on their own. 0.93

00:42:05.000 These people are not going to go to war and fight in Iraq.

00:42:10.000 You know what I'm telling you?

00:42:11.000 They're going to use other people to do their bidding for them. 0.99

00:42:14.000 They take control through the money, and they don't have the courage of their own convictions.

00:42:19.000 They'll do anything they can do to manipulate, but they'll never put themselves on the line in any way.

00:42:25.000 They don't stand for anything except trying to take control.

00:42:29.000 It's all a giant manipulation.

00:42:32.000 I guess when you live with them and you see them in an everyday basis, you begin to understand how they really operate and function.

00:42:40.000 I can't give you any specific instance other than to say that in my relationship with some of these people, I can tell you that It's as evil as it really gets.

00:42:52.000 This is it.

00:42:53.000 This is the game. 1.00

00:42:54.000 So is it, when you've been brought up to those high places, and I've been brought up to the high places not as many times, I'm sure, as you have been, and it's just like, come on, they don't want to be free anyways, look at them, they're a bunch of idiots, look at them, just go ahead and join us. 0.96

00:43:07.000 Well, I've been offered, you know, businesses to run, and, you know, one of the things they said to me, what's wrong with the ID card, you know, we'll make sure your chip says KMA on it. 0.96

00:43:19.000 I said, what does KMA mean? 0.99

00:43:21.000 He said, well if you ever get stopped by a cop or something, they'll just say, kiss my ass, they'll know you're part of us. 1.00

00:43:26.000 They'll leave you alone. 0.99

00:43:28.000 So basically they're saying in this new World ID system, they'll be untouchable. 0.76

00:43:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:33.000 They're the elite.

00:43:37.000 They're the ones.

00:43:37.000 They're the ones that are running the show.

00:43:40.000 And we're just little peons, little serfdoms.

00:43:43.000 You know, and it's all about control.

00:43:45.000 It's all about power.

00:43:46.000 Does it frustrate you, Aaron Russo, again, we're talking to the producer and director of America, Freedom to Fascism, now out on DVD, available at InfoWars.com, does it frustrate you, though, to then talk to police, or talk to the general public, who still believe in this corrupt system, who still think that we're the kooks for trying to warn them, when we're doing them a favor, when everything that they Their whole lives are in jeopardy here, and we're here desperately trying to get them out of a burning house, and they're just laughing at us.

00:44:14.000 I mean, I know you've run into that.

00:44:16.000 I mean, does it make you feel sorry for them?

00:44:17.000 Does it enrage you?

00:44:18.000 I mean, how do you respond to that?

00:44:20.000 Well, I used to, you know, when I made my first video called Mad As Hell, I used to be enraged by it.

00:44:25.000 Now I sort of feel sorry for them.

00:44:27.000 But, you know, because when you know the truth, there's a sense of...

00:44:34.000 There's a sense of, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:44:35.000 Melancholy?

00:44:37.000 Not resignation, but it's a melancholy.

00:44:39.000 Yeah, it's just a... I'm not sure what the exact right word is, but there's a sense that you know what the truth is, and... Sardonic!

00:44:45.000 Yeah, in a sense, that's right.

00:44:48.000 But what I find happening is more and more people are really waking up.

00:44:51.000 I find there's an awakening happening in this country, and I find that's why people are moving so quickly to change.

00:44:58.000 All the stuff you've done, and all these 9-11 videos, People are waking up.

00:45:02.000 They know that 9-11 was an inside job.

00:45:04.000 People know it.

00:45:05.000 You know, I heard a song some months back called, There's Something in the Air, but it's not on the airwaves.

00:45:12.000 And that's the truth.

00:45:12.000 I think there's really a movement happening across this country, and it just has to be galvanized.

00:45:17.000 Well, I talked about that a few minutes ago, introducing you to this segment, that I see it exponentially, like waves, getting bigger, getting quicker, getting faster, and I see the hubris of the elite, but I also see them beginning to lose that hubris, which in a way I don't like, because now they may figure out how close they are to being defeated.

00:45:37.000 Well, I certainly sense that they know there's a problem.

00:45:40.000 They know the Internet is a real problem for them.

00:45:42.000 If there was no Internet, I think this game would have... they would have won a long time ago.

00:45:46.000 Well, yeah, they plan to use the Internet as a tracking system, a control system, and they're still going to do that.

00:45:52.000 It's a double-edged sword, but we have effectively seized the sword and used the good edge of it to really, really start rending and exposing their frauds.

00:46:01.000 Yeah, there's no question about it, but that's why they're going to... you see the European Union now talking about They need government permission to upload videos on the internet.

00:46:09.000 You know, you see what they're trying to do.

00:46:11.000 They're trying to control us internet because it's the last bastion of freedom that we have.

00:46:14.000 Google admits that they keep deleting our page views for TerrorStorm!

00:46:18.000 Oh, they do?

00:46:19.000 They admitted it?

00:46:20.000 Oh, they said it's an accident over and over again.

00:46:22.000 They just keep deleting our ranking.

00:46:24.000 Because, again, if we get up in the top rankings, which we've done now three times in the top 100, what they do is then millions of people go there for their viewing pleasure.

00:46:32.000 They're in that top 100.

00:46:33.000 So, yeah, they're trying to abscond.

00:46:35.000 They're messing with the counters.

00:46:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:46:38.000 Yeah, I know.

00:46:38.000 I know.

00:46:39.000 We just cracked into the top 100 there.

00:46:40.000 We were number 60 yesterday.

00:46:43.000 And I'm getting some emails saying that we were at over 200,000 views.

00:46:47.000 We've only been out in like four days or something, and we're over 200,000 views, and they've reduced it to 60-some-odd thousand.

00:46:53.000 Yeah, no, that's what they do.

00:46:55.000 You see, and again, folks, you can go watch it at Google Video, and we have a link to it there if you wish, but you need to buy the DVD because they can shut the web down tomorrow and you won't have a copy.

00:47:05.000 Plus, it looks a lot better to have the DVD and you want to support what Aaron's doing.

00:47:09.000 The DVD's much better than the Google for sure.

00:47:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:12.000 And of course, there's an earlier version that got put up on the web that you sent out as a promotion months before the movie even came out that was on the web.

00:47:18.000 That's not the real film.

00:47:20.000 Well, they know that people are watching us.

00:47:21.000 They know that there's a real demand.

00:47:22.000 People have a thirst for the truth.

00:47:23.000 And they want to get it spread out there.

00:47:25.000 But again, that shows their fear that they're knocking us out of the top 100 over and over again.

00:47:31.000 Well, they know that people are watching us.

00:47:33.000 They know that there's a real demand.

00:47:35.000 People have a thirst for the truth, and they want to get it spread out there.

00:47:39.000 And the fact is that this video explains it in a way that I don't think any other video has ever done before.

00:47:46.000 And I really urge everybody to buy this video, to have house parties, to show it to other people, to make copies, spread them out in the streets, give them to people.

00:47:56.000 Because we have to win this battle.

00:47:58.000 I don't know, I mean...

00:47:59.000 We have to win this battle.

00:48:01.000 I mean, the first step for me was making this movie.

00:48:04.000 The next step for me is to get thousands and millions of people to sign on to become part of this movement.

00:48:10.000 And the third step we have to do is start taking actions.

00:48:12.000 You know, we have to stop boycotting the government.

00:48:14.000 We have to shut it down.

00:48:15.000 We got to do what Gandhi did and what Martin Luther King did for the freedom movement.

00:48:19.000 Well, and let me just say what Gandhi faced in India was a tyranny, but nothing this high-tech.

00:48:24.000 What Martin Luther King faced was a tyranny, but nothing like it is now.

00:48:28.000 This is the sophisticated apparatchik of a very cold-blooded people Who openly said they want to bring in a one world government to straitjacket us, tie us down, so they can eliminate us.

00:48:41.000 And that's not a joke.

00:48:42.000 These very same banking elite funded Hitler and Stalin and Mao, who together killed 200 million people.

00:48:49.000 Look at what they did here in America.

00:48:52.000 Look at 9-11.

00:48:52.000 Look what they did.

00:48:54.000 They killed all these thousands of Americans. 0.97

00:48:56.000 They're not billion people jumping out of windows from 100 floors up.

00:49:00.000 They don't care.

00:49:00.000 Come on.

00:49:02.000 I mean, look what they're doing right here in this country.

00:49:04.000 They're killing people.

00:49:05.000 Look what they did to Waco.

00:49:06.000 Look what they did to Randy Weaver.

00:49:08.000 I mean, that's how I got started in all this.

00:49:09.000 I mean, there's so much going on.

00:49:11.000 Come on! 0.61

00:49:11.000 This is happening right here, right now. 0.61

00:49:14.000 It has to be stopped.

00:49:15.000 Well, that's the good news.

00:49:16.000 As they attack us, as they... Waco... I say, why did everybody wake up in 94, 95?

00:49:21.000 Waco.

00:49:22.000 Because then it came out that Delta Force killed them.

00:49:24.000 And again, now they carried out 9-11.

00:49:26.000 That totally blew it for them.

00:49:28.000 I think they thought they'd get away with it, Aaron, and they haven't.

00:49:32.000 Well, they can't get rid of 9-11 because there's no way that Building 7 came down, you know, without a controlled demolition.

00:49:38.000 It takes weeks to do the controlled demolition.

00:49:41.000 They couldn't have done it in a few hours like Larry Silverstein said.

00:49:44.000 It blows their whole game.

00:49:45.000 Concrete doesn't turn to powder unless it's exploded.

00:49:48.000 We all know that 9-11 was a fraud and an inside job, as you've said many times.

00:49:53.000 And the people of America know it.

00:49:54.000 They know there's something wrong here.

00:49:55.000 What we have to do is just galvanize.

00:49:57.000 People know it's wrong.

00:49:59.000 It's not a question anymore.

00:50:00.000 Everybody knows it.

00:50:01.000 Just galvanizing.

00:50:03.000 Creating a new movement in this country.

00:50:05.000 What Martin Luther King did with God, we have to create a movement.

00:50:08.000 That's what has to happen here. 0.93

00:50:10.000 We just can't sit back on our butts.

00:50:13.000 We've got to ask God for guidance, too, in all of this.

00:50:16.000 And you know what?

00:50:16.000 I know God's with us, Sharon.

00:50:18.000 I know that, too.

00:50:19.000 Believe me.

00:50:19.000 I know that's what's brought me here.

00:50:22.000 I believe I'm working with the hand of God.

00:50:23.000 I really do.

00:50:25.000 You know, I just know that we have to save this country.

00:50:27.000 You know, knowing the elite, Aaron, knowing people who are very successful, who are good people, they're very happy.

00:50:33.000 But all these billionaires and people who are evil, they're very unhappy.

00:50:36.000 I mean, at least in my limited interactions.

00:50:38.000 Have you found that?

00:50:40.000 Well, I find that most wealthy people don't make a change because they're living off the system.

00:50:46.000 And they don't want to change the system.

00:50:48.000 So with us, the people, you know, I sort of feel like we have to be like Spartacus and get all the slaves together.

00:50:56.000 Absolutely.

00:50:57.000 Aaron Russo, stay there.

00:50:58.000 We'll be right back and calls are coming up.

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00:51:18.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

00:51:26.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, the White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

00:51:37.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

00:51:41.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

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00:54:10.000 Next Tuesday night, that's...

00:54:13.000 Shaolin, Halloween, that's just, it really launches in stores November 1st.

00:54:17.000 People are saying, why are you launching your video on Halloween?

00:54:19.000 It's occultic code words!

00:54:21.000 No, it's, that's when it gets in stores the next day nationwide.

00:54:25.000 So we're doing it that night.

00:54:26.000 That's, that's here locally.

00:54:27.000 They want me to go all over the country, I just can't do it.

00:54:30.000 I'm a distributor, but Terror Storm will be in stores nationwide.

00:54:34.000 I mean Barnes and Nobles, I mean Borders.

00:54:38.000 We've got a list of hundreds of them up there on the website.

00:54:40.000 There's hundreds more.

00:54:42.000 Basically everywhere but Walmart and Best Buy and stuff like that.

00:54:46.000 Almost every video and bookstore in the country will have TerrorStorm.

00:54:49.000 Please!

00:54:50.000 You want to buy it with anonymity?

00:54:52.000 You want to give it as gifts?

00:54:53.000 You want to also make sure that it gets bought off the shelves so more get stocked, so more mainline people walk by and see it and buy it?

00:55:00.000 Be sure, starting November 1st, to hit the stores and buy Terror Storm off the shelves.

00:55:05.000 And I'll be at the Waterloo Records and Video at the corner of Lamar and 6th Street in downtown Austin from 5 to 6 p.m.

00:55:15.000 next Tuesday.

00:55:17.000 And coming up the next week, we've got a free showing of Terror Storm at a local church.

00:55:20.000 We'll tell you about that later.

00:55:22.000 We're going to start the next hour.

00:55:23.000 Aaron Russo is going to stay with us for about 30 minutes.

00:55:25.000 We have time to take your calls.

00:55:26.000 Troy and Patrick and Josh and Pam and many others.

00:55:30.000 But before we end this hour, Aaron, I again want to encourage listeners to go to Infowars.com.

00:55:36.000 To get Terror Storm, to get America Freedom From Fascism, or to call toll free to get both the films, 888-253-3139.

00:55:42.000 And when you buy America Freedom From Fascism for $19.95, I think it's worth $50, and you support Aaron Russo, you also get my new film Terror Storm if you want it for $9.95.

00:55:53.000 Well, here's what I do know, first hand.

00:55:54.000 I want you to have both these films.

00:55:55.000 Aaron, more on 9-11.

00:55:58.000 I haven't heard you talk a lot about that, I guess because I haven't asked you. 0.89

00:56:00.000 Give us your take on it and some of the other reasons you know it's an inside job and where you think that's going because they did overreach and why they thought we'd be stupid and wouldn't see through it. 0.92

00:56:10.000 Well, here's what I do know firsthand.

00:56:13.000 I know that about 11 months to a year before 9-11 ever happened, I was talking to my rapper fellow friend, and he said to me, and there's gonna be an event.

00:56:25.000 And he never told me what the event was going to be.

00:56:27.000 I'm not sure that he knew what the event was going to be.

00:56:29.000 I don't know that he knew that.

00:56:30.000 He just said there's going to be an event.

00:56:33.000 And out of that event, we're going to invade Afghanistan, so we can run pipelines from the Caspian Sea. 0.98

00:56:38.000 We're going to go into Iraq to take the oil and establish bases in the Middle East and to be in bed with the... We're going to make the Middle East part of the New World Order. 0.99

00:56:50.000 And we're going to go after Venezuela.

00:56:51.000 That's what's going to come out of this event.

00:56:54.000 And 11 months, a year later, that's what happened.

00:56:57.000 And I don't know that he knew what the event was going to be, but he certainly knew that something was going to happen.

00:57:03.000 Did you talk to him after?

00:57:05.000 No.

00:57:06.000 So that freaked you out.

00:57:08.000 Now you're saying this is Nick Rockefeller.

00:57:10.000 You think he's going to get mad when he finds out you talked about it?

00:57:13.000 I guess you don't care.

00:57:14.000 Well, you know, I know how they operate.

00:57:17.000 They wait for their moments to strike back, and I'm sure that At some point, they'll strike back at me for whatever I'm saying.

00:57:23.000 You know, they don't do it in the... But you're going for broke.

00:57:25.000 I can tell you... I mean, I can tell more than ever.

00:57:28.000 You've got the eye of the tiger here.

00:57:29.000 You've gone past the point of no return, haven't you?

00:57:32.000 Well, there is nothing left to do except to fight back.

00:57:36.000 I'm willing to take the bullet, you know.

00:57:38.000 Me too.

00:57:38.000 That's what it's about.

00:57:39.000 Exactly. 0.96

00:57:40.000 And if we all stand up, or even a big group of us are willing to take it, then we're going to beat these chicken-neck cowards. 0.96

00:57:45.000 I believe that. 0.82

00:57:47.000 There's nothing left, you know.

00:57:48.000 I mean, the truth is, But Patrick, you know, give me liberty, give me death.

00:57:52.000 It's a slogan, but it's the truth. 0.63

00:57:54.000 I'm not interested in living any other way.

00:57:56.000 I'm not going to live with a chip in me and being told how I have to live my life and my children living that way.

00:58:01.000 I'm just not going to do it.

00:58:03.000 And I know that these guys are very vengeful and I know they have the exact revenge.

00:58:07.000 And I'm sure at some point from my speaking out like this, they'll take their toll on me.

00:58:12.000 But the truth of the matter is that unless we speak out, there's no way to win this game.

00:58:16.000 And they can't get us all.

00:58:18.000 You know, I don't know, I don't know if they'll get us all, they're not going to get us all.

00:58:22.000 All I know is that people like you and I, Alex, we have to stand up and hopefully other people will stand with us so we can lead a revolt across this country.

00:58:29.000 I agree.

00:58:30.000 Hey, my friend, the die is cast.

00:58:31.000 I rolled those dice a long time ago and I'll just say they didn't come up snake eyes.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back with Aaron Russo and your coach.

00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

00:58:45.000 Big Brother.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:52.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:59.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:01.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:04.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 The die is cast.

00:59:18.000 We've reached the point of no return a long time ago.

00:59:21.000 Nobody told you that.

00:59:22.000 I am.

00:59:25.000 We're going in, through, And beyond.

00:59:30.000 We're now inside the One World Government.

00:59:32.000 It's now announcing itself.

00:59:34.000 And as foretold, as it announces itself, as it builds towards full power, it will fall the minute it hits the apex.

00:59:42.000 Aaron Russo, very famous, very successful.

00:59:45.000 I just want to say I just watched Terror Storm yesterday.

00:59:48.000 made the new film America, Freedom to Fascism.

00:59:49.000 We carry it at Infowars.com.

00:59:51.000 He is graciously spending another 30 minutes with us.

00:59:53.000 And we have the Nobel Prize winner, former chief economist, World Bank, and Dr. Joseph Stiglitz joining us in the third hour.

01:00:00.000 Hey, this broadcast just brings you better and better guests.

01:00:02.000 I'm really proud of the job we're doing here with my team.

01:00:05.000 Let's talk to Troy in West Virginia.

01:00:07.000 You're on the air with Aaron Russo.

01:00:09.000 I just want to say I just watched Terror Storm yesterday.

01:00:13.000 Can you hear me?

01:00:14.000 Yes, I can.

01:00:15.000 I think it was just a bunch of hooey, to be honest with you. 1.00

01:00:17.000 Okay.

01:00:20.000 There's a lot of blatant lies, a lot of facts distorted, a lot of relevant information was ignored, and several quotes taken out of context.

01:00:28.000 Well, I'd like you to give me specifics, sir.

01:00:30.000 Well, the blatant lies was the USS Liberty.

01:00:33.000 Okay.

01:00:34.000 That was a very unfortunate situation.

01:00:38.000 You know, I'm going to stop you right there, because I have interviewed The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I've interviewed, what, four of the other Admirals, two of them that took the call from LBJ, on the ships.

01:00:51.000 I've interviewed the First Mate, the Doctor of the ship.

01:00:54.000 I've probably interviewed, it's got to be more than 20 people that were on that ship.

01:00:59.000 And everything we said in there was what they said happened.

01:01:03.000 They were told they'd be killed if they talked about it.

01:01:05.000 Are they still alive?

01:01:07.000 You said they'd be killed if they talked about it.

01:01:09.000 Are they still alive?

01:01:09.000 That's what they said on the air.

01:01:13.000 So you're saying Captain William McGonagall now rests his soul and all of them?

01:01:18.000 How dare you sir?

01:01:20.000 How dare you call me a liar? 1.00

01:01:22.000 When all I know is tell them it's no, you're a liar! 1.00

01:01:24.000 You're a punk! 0.99

01:01:30.000 It wasn't an inside job, and you keep trying to convince people it is, and trying to get some... You know something?

01:01:35.000 You know something?

01:01:36.000 Hold on a minute!

01:01:37.000 You saw a terror storm, and you're saying the government doesn't admit they staged terror attacks in 53 to overthrow Mosaddegh.

01:01:43.000 You're saying the Gulf of Tonkin isn't admitted to be staged.

01:01:46.000 You're saying I'm lying about all that.

01:01:49.000 Well, I know you talked about the Northwoods thing, which there's no correlation between Northwoods and 9-11.

01:01:55.000 Everything they've done is in Northwoods!

01:01:58.000 Hijacking jets by remote control, blowing up ships, blaming it on... Aaron Russo, you want to come in and respond to this guy?

01:02:04.000 I mean, uh, let me ask you a question, sir.

01:02:04.000 Well, sure.

01:02:07.000 If you don't believe 9-11 was an inside job... I know it wasn't an inside job.

01:02:10.000 I can go to Screw Loose Change and they'll... Okay, I'm asking you a question.

01:02:14.000 They build straw men.

01:02:15.000 It's pure bull.

01:02:16.000 I'm asking you a question.

01:02:17.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:02:18.000 How did Building 7 come down?

01:02:21.000 From the 18th floor to the bottom, there was major structural damage along with From what?

01:02:26.000 Huge fire, either the south side or north side sustained major fires.

01:02:31.000 Excuse me, there were no major fires, and the owner of the building admitted... Yes, there were major fires.

01:02:35.000 Excuse me, excuse me, the owner of the building admitted it was brought down by controlled demolition.

01:02:40.000 No, he didn't.

01:02:41.000 He certainly did, it's on tape.

01:02:43.000 He's talking about pulling the fireman, not pulling the building down.

01:02:45.000 There were never firemen in the building!

01:02:48.000 Are you going to tell me a man that owns a building has the authority to tell somebody to blow a building?

01:02:54.000 He slipped up!

01:02:54.000 Sir, we just got fireman tape and police tape, brand new that no one had noticed on CNN.

01:03:00.000 We now have, you know what just surfaced two days ago?

01:03:03.000 Two different videos of firemen and police saying, get back, we're about to bring the building down, the building's coming down.

01:03:08.000 In fact, I forgot to send those to the network to play them.

01:03:11.000 That's the case you're taking quotes out of context once again.

01:03:13.000 No we're not.

01:03:14.000 Oh why didn't the Madrid building that had 100 foot white hot flames shooting up for a day and a half not collapse?

01:03:20.000 Why had no modern steel building ever collapsed?

01:03:22.000 Well that building didn't have a couple of 767's fly into it and it was built differently.

01:03:27.000 Building 7 didn't have a plane fly into it.

01:03:31.000 Stay there, stay there.

01:03:32.000 I'm going to let Aaron Russo respond to what you're saying.

01:03:34.000 I want to hear more of this, how I'm a liar. 0.88

01:03:37.000 I'm a liar, but the government's good. 0.95

01:03:39.000 There weren't black men in Tuskegee. 0.96

01:03:40.000 There weren't atomic soldiers. 0.94

01:03:41.000 There weren't the ringworm children.

01:03:43.000 There weren't all the sterilizations.

01:03:45.000 They didn't release biologicals on the New York subway. 0.53

01:03:47.000 I'm a liar.

01:03:48.000 We'll be right back. 0.56

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01:06:51.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:07:01.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:06.000 For some stations that just joined us, let me recap.

01:07:08.000 We have the famous Hollywood director and producer Aaron Russo joining us.

01:07:14.000 Also famous rock and roll promoter with Led Zeppelin, of course, The Who, bringing him to this country.

01:07:20.000 He also invented many other things and brought many other things to this country.

01:07:23.000 He woke up in the New World Order after Waco. 0.87

01:07:25.000 He's now, he's been fighting them for years, running for governor, running for president of the Libertarian Party.

01:07:31.000 Made a TV show, Mad as Hell, which we air here locally.

01:07:34.000 Excellent exposing an asset forfeiture seizure and raiding people and killing them to grab their property.

01:07:39.000 He's a great American.

01:07:40.000 I guess none of that happened either.

01:07:43.000 And we got a caller, Troy, in West Virginia.

01:07:46.000 Who is saying that I'm a liar about TerrorStorm.

01:07:49.000 He says the USS Liberty didn't happen like I say.

01:07:53.000 I guess none of the other things, all the admissions, the staging of attacks, Operation Ajax, Tonkin.

01:08:01.000 All of it.

01:08:02.000 Northwoods, he says, doesn't have any bearing on 9-11.

01:08:04.000 He's saying Building 7 died from structural damage from the North Tower hitting it.

01:08:09.000 NIST and FEMA have had to withdraw that.

01:08:11.000 They've given five different reasons.

01:08:13.000 Fuel oil tank, they had to admit that didn't happen.

01:08:15.000 Then they said the North Tower fell on it, knocking out its central support pillar.

01:08:18.000 Only dust from the building hit and a few windows got knocked out.

01:08:21.000 That's admitted.

01:08:23.000 Officially on the NIST site.

01:08:24.000 Then they claimed it was structurally built incorrectly.

01:08:27.000 They had to withdraw that.

01:08:30.000 Then they claimed that fires did it, and they had to withdraw that.

01:08:33.000 Now they're saying they don't know why, and NIST is saying they must look at explosions, explosives.

01:08:38.000 They added that, what, a month ago, and that's been mainstream news.

01:08:42.000 And so this is incredible.

01:08:45.000 Now he's saying Jets did it.

01:08:47.000 Jets didn't hit Building 7.

01:08:48.000 So Aaron Russo didn't have much time to respond.

01:08:51.000 You want him to respond, and he can come back, Troy.

01:08:54.000 Well, I think this may have a lot of courage to get on the air and say this nonsense, but I mean, the truth is that Larry Silverstein said the fire department decided to pull the building.

01:08:54.000 Aaron?

01:09:04.000 Have you ever talked to Larry Silverstein in person?

01:09:06.000 Yeah, I've attempted to.

01:09:07.000 Excuse me.

01:09:09.000 I'm sorry, okay.

01:09:10.000 Excuse me.

01:09:12.000 Did you see the building fall down?

01:09:14.000 Did you see the video of the building falling?

01:09:16.000 Okay, and you can tell me that came down from a fire?

01:09:16.000 Yeah, I have.

01:09:20.000 Structural damage and fire, both, yeah.

01:09:23.000 Well, I don't know what to say to you.

01:09:25.000 It's obvious that you came down from a demolition.

01:09:27.000 Everybody knows it.

01:09:29.000 Have you ever seen a demolition?

01:09:30.000 Seen how demolitions work?

01:09:32.000 Yes, I have.

01:09:34.000 Yes, I have.

01:09:35.000 I've seen them.

01:09:36.000 I've seen a number of them in Las Vegas.

01:09:38.000 And the fact of the matter happens to be that Building 7 came down from a controlled demolition.

01:09:42.000 And Larry admitted that it came down from a controlled demolition.

01:09:45.000 The fire department decided to pull it.

01:09:47.000 And you and I both know it takes weeks to set a controlled demolition.

01:09:50.000 They didn't do it in three hours.

01:09:51.000 It didn't come down from some fire in the building.

01:09:54.000 And how did the concrete of the Twin Towers turn to dust?

01:09:59.000 Why was there nothing left inside the buildings?

01:10:03.000 If the planes hit on the top of the building, why were there no phones left?

01:10:07.000 Why was there nothing left?

01:10:07.000 Because there were explosions.

01:10:09.000 Throughout each of the floors.

01:10:10.000 That's why nothing was left.

01:10:11.000 And by the way, if the fires were so hot when it collapsed, why did the fire tapes report that the fires were knocked down in both buildings to very small pockets, and the people were standing there for 15-20 minutes waving, where the hottest fires supposedly were, waving for help.

01:10:25.000 It can melt giant, four-foot-round, 47 huge steel beams in the center alone.

01:10:30.000 Meanwhile, the Homeland Security propaganda claims that there were no central columns in Tower 1 or 2.

01:10:36.000 And why was the steel sent off to China immediately?

01:10:39.000 You know, come on.

01:10:41.000 I don't know who you are, sir.

01:10:42.000 You're never going to convince mainstream America it was an inside job.

01:10:46.000 I don't know.

01:10:48.000 Pretty much everything you say you can go to websites that disprove everything you say.

01:10:52.000 Let me tell you something.

01:10:54.000 Let me say something now.

01:10:55.000 Sure, they build straw men.

01:10:56.000 Let me give you an example of what Popular Mechanics did with Homeland Security Director's nephew, who then lied about it and later had to admit he was a nephew and they are friends.

01:11:04.000 So they first had to claim he wasn't the nephew of the Homeland Security Director.

01:11:08.000 Benjamin Chertoff calls me and keeps bringing up things I never said.

01:11:11.000 So I'm on the phone.

01:11:12.000 This is, you know, like three months before the story comes out.

01:11:15.000 And they've got this whole team calling me for days and I'm talking to them on the phone.

01:11:19.000 And I'm sitting there, and they go, well, we called this university that you claim you called and interviewed, and they say you never interviewed them about the seismic data.

01:11:28.000 And I said, what article are you talking about?

01:11:30.000 And they said, well, this one here written by this person.

01:11:32.000 I said, that's a link I put on my site.

01:11:34.000 Did you ask if that person interviewed them?

01:11:36.000 So they build a straw man.

01:11:37.000 They call up and say, did Alex interview you when I've just linked to a story?

01:11:41.000 And of course they say, no, he didn't.

01:11:43.000 That's a straw man.

01:11:44.000 Then they have the captain, or excuse me, the major, They're at NORAD saying, we've never intercepted a plane in the year before 9-11.

01:11:51.000 Then we go pull a Reuters article where he gives a press conference saying they intercepted hundreds.

01:11:56.000 I mean, they build straw men.

01:11:58.000 They say that the North Tower fell and hit it.

01:12:01.000 Megs, the guy that runs Popular Mechanics on national TV, keeps saying the North Tower fell into it when NIST has withdrawn that because it's not true.

01:12:11.000 Let me ask you a question, sir.

01:12:16.000 Do you believe that there's any law that makes you pay an income tax?

01:12:22.000 Would you say that again?

01:12:22.000 I'm sorry.

01:12:23.000 Do you believe there's any law that makes you pay an income tax?

01:12:26.000 I don't know if there's a law, but I know you have to do it.

01:12:28.000 Why?

01:12:29.000 I don't know why.

01:12:32.000 Why do you have to do it?

01:12:33.000 I mean, you don't know why.

01:12:34.000 Why do you have to do it?

01:12:36.000 Just for, I guess, government funding, so they can... You see, you have to educate yourself what the truth is.

01:12:46.000 There is no law.

01:12:47.000 Is the Supreme Court the ultimate arbiter of law in this country?

01:12:51.000 I reckon I don't know.

01:12:54.000 You don't know?

01:12:55.000 I see.

01:12:56.000 Well, you should find out.

01:12:57.000 Does anybody decide law above the Supreme Court?

01:13:07.000 You tell me, I don't know.

01:13:08.000 Well, they don't.

01:13:09.000 So if the Supreme Court said eight times that they can't tax your labor, In Supreme Court decisions, how do they tax it?

01:13:14.000 Well, fine, if they don't tax your labor, then if you go buy a bag of potato chips, we'll charge you $7 for it.

01:13:19.000 Excuse me?

01:13:20.000 What?

01:13:20.000 If there's no income taxes, we'll charge you $6 for a bag of potato chips.

01:13:24.000 Who's going to charge you?

01:13:25.000 What are you talking about?

01:13:26.000 I'm asking you a simple question.

01:13:28.000 Hey, they didn't do that before we got the income tax in 1913 with the 16th Amendment, and let me say something to you right now.

01:13:34.000 Do you know that the Federal Reserve is publicly private, or I bet you think that's a conspiracy too?

01:13:39.000 I don't know.

01:13:42.000 Let me ask you a question, sir.

01:13:43.000 They were calling me a conspiracy terrorist 13 years ago when I was reading North American Union documents on the air.

01:13:49.000 Do you believe that Bush signed us into full North American Union last year?

01:13:54.000 No.

01:13:55.000 There's never going to be a North American Union.

01:13:58.000 Yeah, we just got our business ID numbers here in Texas that say North American Community on them.

01:14:04.000 It's all over the news, sir.

01:14:05.000 It's in the Wall Street Journal.

01:14:06.000 It's on CNN.

01:14:07.000 Alex, Alex, Alex, listen to me, Alex.

01:14:11.000 You're wasting your time talking to an uneducated person, that's all.

01:14:14.000 He just needs to learn.

01:14:15.000 He just has his belief system can't accept what's happening in this country, that's all it is.

01:14:20.000 You know, his belief system doesn't allow him to accept the truth.

01:14:23.000 So if you're saying this country gets worse each and every day, that's pretty much what you're saying is it's going to get worse and worse.

01:14:27.000 Yeah, we're going to hell in a handbasket.

01:14:29.000 Did you know that H.R.

01:14:30.000 6166 overthrew nine of the amendments in the Bill of Rights?

01:14:34.000 No, they didn't.

01:14:35.000 I read the bill four times!

01:14:37.000 I wrote an analysis before anybody else did, and it's been seconded by every major law scholar.

01:14:41.000 They're just trying to protect us from terrorists.

01:14:43.000 They're not trying to take your rights away.

01:14:45.000 You can do what you want, when you want, as long as you're abiding by the law.

01:14:49.000 Actually, that's not true.

01:14:50.000 Yes, you can.

01:14:50.000 Every day I see, oh yeah, you know what?

01:14:53.000 A young man just burned an American flag, which I find to be despicable, but I'll fight to the death for his right to burn it, and that just arrested him.

01:15:00.000 Good, they should.

01:15:01.000 Oh, you think that's freedom, huh?

01:15:05.000 You don't know what the Bill of Rights is, do you?

01:15:07.000 If they can take his right, they can take your right to do something.

01:15:10.000 Alex, why are you wasting your time with this guy?

01:15:12.000 Well, I want to illustrate, Aaron, what we're up against.

01:15:15.000 Well, why are y'all wasting your time with this 9-11 inside job when, A, it wasn't, and B, you're never going to convince anybody it is, and your whole movement is nothing but a waste of time.

01:15:23.000 Did you hear, Aaron?

01:15:24.000 84% in a scientific... Yeah, they don't believe it was an inside job.

01:15:27.000 That's where you mislead people.

01:15:28.000 No, 36% believe total inside job.

01:15:33.000 I doubt that.

01:15:35.000 Scripps Howard News Service, Ohio Poll.

01:15:37.000 So 36% of 300 million people.

01:15:39.000 You know what you're saying.

01:15:41.000 36% of 300 million.

01:15:42.000 Hey, let me stop you for a minute.

01:15:42.000 Most of the people that respond to that are people that believe it was an inside job.

01:15:46.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

01:15:47.000 My show is on KLBJ 590, which has won Marconi Awards and got nominated this year.

01:15:53.000 It was in the top five talk stations in the country this year.

01:15:57.000 Now on that mainline station, we're on a bunch of them right now.

01:16:01.000 On that mainline station, you know how many calls I get in a month disagreeing with me?

01:16:07.000 Probably not many.

01:16:08.000 Two or three.

01:16:09.000 How many do you hear to this show?

01:16:11.000 I have done over 4,000 interviews when I quit counting a year ago, on 9-11, since 9-11, and I'm on shows where the host is attacking me, in Houston, in San Diego, on Lars Larson, on 200 radio stations last week.

01:16:23.000 He took about 10 calls, and one of them disagreed with me.

01:16:26.000 And he was incoherent, and didn't know any facts or information, just like you.

01:16:30.000 So there's your proof, right there, buddy, that we have won, and we're gonna defeat you!

01:16:34.000 No, you're not.

01:16:36.000 You're never gonna win.

01:16:37.000 Never.

01:16:39.000 Well, if that's the case, buddy, you're going to lose your private property, you're going to have one-child policy.

01:16:43.000 I'm 30 years old and I'll be 80 and I'll own everything I have.

01:16:46.000 Nothing's ever going to be taken away from me, and I guarantee that.

01:16:49.000 Try not paying your property taxes.

01:16:51.000 No, I will pay my property taxes.

01:16:52.000 Oh, even as they go up on average 10% a year, you will?

01:16:55.000 Yeah, I pay $1,800 on my house a year.

01:16:57.000 And in 10 years... Alex, what are you doing?

01:17:00.000 Alex, what are you talking to this guy for?

01:17:02.000 Well, I'm illustrating, Aaron.

01:17:05.000 Wait, when it goes up to $2,200 in the year 2010?

01:17:07.000 This guy let the government walk all over him, step on his face, and do whatever they want.

01:17:13.000 The government's not walking all over me.

01:17:14.000 I make a good living.

01:17:16.000 Are they taxing you?

01:17:17.000 How much money do you make a year?

01:17:20.000 Me and my wife, about $60,000, $65,000.

01:17:22.000 And how much money do they take from you?

01:17:27.000 I got a whole slew of kids that the federal government takes nothing.

01:17:29.000 They take nothing from you?

01:17:31.000 Nothing, because I have five kids.

01:17:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:17:33.000 You don't know what unfunded entitlements are at the state?

01:17:37.000 I don't agree with entitlements.

01:17:40.000 Oh, but those don't exist in American Conspiracy Theory.

01:17:44.000 I don't know what you're talking about there.

01:17:45.000 Hey, listen to me.

01:17:47.000 The VATF's been tripled in size.

01:17:48.000 They're raiding people that have my films.

01:17:51.000 It's been in the news.

01:17:51.000 They arrested a man in, uh, in Lyon County, Kentucky.

01:17:55.000 It was in the newspaper.

01:17:56.000 Uh, upstanding family, upstanding business owner, uh, Kelly Rushing, because he gave the state police a Ron Paul video in one of my videos.

01:18:03.000 I talked to the judge.

01:18:05.000 It went to court.

01:18:06.000 They tried to put him in prison for four years on each count for giving him a video.

01:18:11.000 Well, let me say one more thing, anyways.

01:18:13.000 Hey, let me ask you a question.

01:18:13.000 Do you think I should be arrested for what I say and do?

01:18:16.000 No.

01:18:16.000 Well, Sean Hannity does.

01:18:18.000 Well, I usually agree with Sean, but if he says that, I don't agree with that.

01:18:22.000 But let me say, if it truly was an inside job, and you're exposing this, the United States government would have you killed and make it look like an accident.

01:18:30.000 They have killed a lot of us, and you know what?

01:18:32.000 But they let you live.

01:18:33.000 That makes a lot of sense. 0.62

01:18:35.000 They could kill you and make it look like an accident. 1.00

01:18:37.000 Yeah, if they killed me, it would turn me into a Malcolm X or a Martin Luther King, you twit. 1.00

01:18:42.000 And I'm so sick of people telling me- They can make it look like an accident! 0.96

01:18:44.000 You know how many patriots have been killed?

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01:22:49.000 I wish that I could fly into the sky.

01:22:57.000 She's very high, just like a dragonfly.

01:23:01.000 I fly from the trees, over the seas, and all the greens, into anywhere I please.

01:23:14.000 Oh, I want to get away.

01:23:20.000 I'll fly away.

01:23:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:26.000 This song is dedicated to Troy from West Virginia.

01:23:29.000 I want to get away.

01:23:31.000 He has gotten away.

01:23:32.000 He has flown away.

01:23:34.000 Let it roll for a few more seconds for him.

01:23:35.000 This is for you.

01:23:36.000 Yeah, Troy, you're not here on earth, you're not here on earth, buddy.

01:24:00.000 You're out there flying around on the Milky Way.

01:24:03.000 Let me assure you that the Federal Reserve is run by private banks.

01:24:06.000 Let me assure you they've openly stated they're going to enslave you.

01:24:09.000 Let me assure you the North American's here.

01:24:12.000 Let me assure you we're losing our union.

01:24:15.000 I've got to let you go.

01:24:15.000 I've got too many calls to get to.

01:24:16.000 We're going to keep Aaron the whole hour now.

01:24:18.000 We appreciate him spending time with us.

01:24:21.000 I just, I would hope that you don't have to spend the money to get America freedom to fascism.

01:24:25.000 Will you at least go up to Google Video?

01:24:28.000 We have a link to it up on Infowars.com.

01:24:30.000 Will you at least go watch the two hour film, a little shorter than two hours?

01:24:34.000 Will you at least go watch it and research the facts there?

01:24:37.000 Will you please find out that you're becoming a slave?

01:24:40.000 Or is it just a conspiracy?

01:24:41.000 I'll watch it.

01:24:43.000 I'll watch your movie.

01:24:44.000 Oh, you watch Terror Storm, but you said it's not true when it is.

01:24:48.000 How do you say the USS Liberty wasn't a deal worked out between Israel and of course the President at the time as a pretext to go to war with the rest of the Middle East?

01:24:59.000 They didn't go to war with the Middle East.

01:25:02.000 Because they couldn't sink the ship, sir!

01:25:06.000 Because McGonagall tied his guts in and stayed at the helm and they battened down the hatches when the torpedo blew a 35 foot hole in it.

01:25:14.000 Speak up!

01:25:15.000 We can't hear you!

01:25:15.000 Alright!

01:25:18.000 You know what?

01:25:19.000 Are you going to get mad when you learn the truth or is it just impossible?

01:25:19.000 It's so sad.

01:25:23.000 You just decided to deny the facts in front of your face.

01:25:26.000 I mean, I live a pretty good life and I don't see it getting any worse in the next 50 years.

01:25:34.000 Well, enjoy those cancer viruses they put in your vaccines.

01:25:37.000 Okay.

01:25:39.000 I'll enjoy those chips they put in, too.

01:25:41.000 Oh, the official plan to do that?

01:25:43.000 Yeah, I'm sure they got the phone bug, too, right?

01:25:48.000 Well, he always laughed at us about NSA.

01:25:50.000 Now they admit they're listening to everything.

01:25:52.000 Whole floors of every phone company are run by the NSA.

01:25:54.000 I told you that ten years ago.

01:25:56.000 It's now mainstream news.

01:25:57.000 A thousand people listen to 300 million people's phone calls.

01:25:59.000 No, no.

01:26:00.000 It's keyword software.

01:26:01.000 It's AI computers.

01:26:03.000 It's admitted.

01:26:03.000 Do you understand it's admitted?

01:26:05.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

01:26:06.000 It was admitted two months ago that every phone call is registered and recorded.

01:26:09.000 You didn't hear that?

01:26:11.000 Probably is.

01:26:13.000 Wait a minute, I'm a kook because I said they are, but now it's okay because they are. 1.00

01:26:19.000 Just, you know what, just get a... Fine.

01:26:22.000 Fine, sir, believe whatever... Aaron Russo, I mean, I'm telling you, that guy was for real.

01:26:26.000 Those people were real.

01:26:28.000 Well, you know, it's like this.

01:26:30.000 You know, there are people in life, if there wasn't opposition to the way you think, then we wouldn't have a problem doing what we're doing.

01:26:37.000 You understand?

01:26:38.000 I mean, there are people... That's how the New World Order gets by, because there are people like this who refuse to look at the truthful facts, who don't understand what happened on 9-11, who think it's okay for the government to tax you, and because he may not pay because he's got five kids, it's okay to be a slave.

01:26:53.000 He doesn't care if there's no law or what the Supreme Court has ruled, because it doesn't affect him.

01:26:59.000 You know, it doesn't matter how it may affect other people.

01:27:01.000 Well, here's an example.

01:27:02.000 I'll get on the radio and all over the country at the start of school, they'll say it's the law.

01:27:05.000 You've got to take vaccines.

01:27:07.000 There is no law.

01:27:08.000 It's admitted there's no law, but I'll have people like him call in and say, well, so what?

01:27:12.000 We need to make people take them. 0.63

01:27:14.000 So let them say it's a law.

01:27:16.000 Yeah.

01:27:16.000 I mean, it's just, I don't know why you waste your time with guys like this.

01:27:20.000 I mean, there are people out there who, who have a belief system a certain way and they want to believe it.

01:27:24.000 And that's all there is to it.

01:27:26.000 And they're mentally incapable of thinking any other way.

01:27:29.000 No, you're right. 1.00

01:27:30.000 That guy is incompetent. 0.94

01:27:31.000 I mean, he doesn't know autism's gone from 1 in 25,000, 20-something years ago to now 1 in less than 168. 0.97

01:27:39.000 It was that a few years ago.

01:27:40.000 I mean, now they have warehouses at every school of the autistic kids. 1.00

01:27:44.000 But what does the local news say and the national news?

01:27:46.000 That mercury's nutritious.

01:27:48.000 In fact, find the mercury's nutritious clip, please.

01:27:50.000 Have you heard the latest?

01:27:51.000 They're now saying mercury's good for your brain, Aaron?

01:27:54.000 Are you serious?

01:27:55.000 Yeah!

01:27:58.000 I didn't hear that one.

01:28:00.000 When did this happen?

01:28:01.000 Last year there was a big furor locally we made and so they had a, well all over the country they had similar newscasts saying mercury is now good for your brain.

01:28:10.000 Self-fluoridation.

01:28:13.000 Well hey man, to these guys it's true!

01:28:15.000 Oh God, I mean what does this guy think that when Rockefeller called me up and told me what was going to happen after this event?

01:28:22.000 That was just a lucky guess.

01:28:26.000 And by the way, you are a high-powered movie producer.

01:28:30.000 You've been a huge rock promoter.

01:28:31.000 I mean, you've got a lot to lose here.

01:28:33.000 You're not making this stuff up.

01:28:35.000 He doesn't even know who you are.

01:28:36.000 He doesn't even know... He knows nothing.

01:28:38.000 We'll come back, go right to your call.

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01:33:06.000 And we were talking to that guy earlier, and you notice, I should have brought up Kevin Ryan.

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01:33:15.000 Underwriting Laboratory, with their internal year-long study with models, shangles, this couldn't have been brought down by fire, especially seven. 0.99

01:33:22.000 I could have brought that up.

01:33:23.000 That guy would have just laughed at me.

01:33:25.000 You know, Popular Mechanics says we have no real engineers, no experts.

01:33:29.000 It's all lies!

01:33:31.000 There's like something like 300 engineers now have gone public.

01:33:34.000 I mean, mining college heads, you name it. 0.90

01:33:37.000 It's just ridiculous! 0.67

01:33:39.000 But Aaron, since we mentioned that, here is the local KI piece.

01:33:43.000 When I saw this a year ago, I said, you know what?

01:33:46.000 I know that this was sent out all over the country from the CBS Broadcast Center.

01:33:50.000 By the way, three networks are based at the CBS Broadcast Center and pool their resources.

01:33:55.000 It's basically government run.

01:33:56.000 Fox, CBS, and ABC are all in one building.

01:34:01.000 And they send out the video feeds and then the local reads a New York written teleprompter read.

01:34:08.000 So this is a New York written teleprompter read and I typed this into Google last year when it happened, I guess it was two years ago now, and I found hundreds of CBS reports And ABC and Fox reports saying the exact same words.

01:34:21.000 People wonder why it's the same four newscasts in the same order with the same headlines.

01:34:25.000 It's all written in one place, except NBC's separate for some reason, but they're owned by defense contractor GE.

01:34:31.000 So, so, so, here they are saying, in the little medical blurb part, that mercury's actually good for your brain.

01:34:36.000 Mercury-containing vaccines may have on kids.

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01:34:54.000 Mercury-containing vaccines may help not harm kids, according to two new studies in the journal Pediatrics.

01:35:00.000 There have been widespread concerns that mercury-based preservatives in vaccines might impair the neurological development of children.

01:35:07.000 These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually be associated with improved behavior and mental performance.

01:35:14.000 That's unbelievable.

01:35:21.000 I mean, that's like going to a steakhouse.

01:35:23.000 That's unbelievable.

01:35:24.000 Alex, do me a favor.

01:35:26.000 Say to me, 2 and 2 is 4.

01:35:28.000 2 and 2 is 4.

01:35:30.000 No, it's not.

01:35:32.000 That's what the guy's saying.

01:35:33.000 It's not.

01:35:34.000 2 and 2 is 4.

01:35:35.000 No, it's not 4.

01:35:36.000 That's what the guy's saying.

01:35:37.000 Well, we also told him the Federal Reserve was private and he was laughing at us.

01:35:42.000 Well, the whole point is there are people out there who just refused

01:35:45.000 I look at facts, who are living a life, you know, he's getting by while he watches his football games, whatever he's doing, he thinks life is okay, and that's the way it is, and we're going after these terrorists because they really brought down 9-11, you know, and we're doing the right thing, we're torturing them because they're protecting human life, and that's what he thinks, you know, and he buys the story of the neocons, and that's the game, and there are people who buy those stories, and that's what it is, and there are people who say,

01:36:13.000 Who understand what we're saying, and understand what the truth is, who see beyond the facade.

01:36:18.000 And some people don't. 0.95

01:36:19.000 But the facade's getting more and more ridiculous. 0.95

01:36:22.000 It's like going to a steakhouse, and you order a New York strip, and they bring out horse droppings. 0.95

01:36:29.000 And they say, no, it's a steak.

01:36:31.000 It's really good for you, too.

01:36:33.000 It's full of vitamins.

01:36:35.000 It's really good for you.

01:36:37.000 I mean, come on.

01:36:39.000 If there weren't people out there like that, they wouldn't be getting away with it.

01:36:42.000 And that's the point, and that's what our job is, to have people understand what the truth is.

01:36:47.000 Well, let me have a call to action here. 0.99

01:36:49.000 You heard how ignorant that guy is. 0.99

01:36:51.000 You heard how willfully in denial he is. 1.00

01:36:54.000 Don't let him win.

01:36:55.000 Reach out to the people that do care.

01:36:57.000 I know lots of listeners go, well, my neighbor, my wife, my cousin, they laugh at me, they won't listen.

01:37:02.000 It's like Jesus said, knock the dust off your feet, let the dead bury the dead, they're dead mentally.

01:37:08.000 Pearls before swine. 1.00

01:37:09.000 Don't throw your precious pearls of wisdom before pigs. 0.98

01:37:12.000 You need to dust the dust off your feet and move on to people. 0.90

01:37:15.000 They'll argue with you and really want to debate and really want to see proof.

01:37:19.000 That's another thing.

01:37:20.000 Spend time in that vineyard.

01:37:21.000 You're going to get good grapes and good wine.

01:37:23.000 Do not spend it on little turkeys. 1.00

01:37:26.000 I only had him on for 20 minutes to illustrate the idiocy of these type of people. 1.00

01:37:32.000 This is why we need to get America Freedom to Fascism. 0.99

01:37:34.000 This is why you need to get Terror Storm.

01:37:36.000 This is why you need to get them and make copies of them and get them out to people.

01:37:39.000 Go to InfoWars.com, have house parties, go crazy, never stop, tell people about Terror Storm online, email it out to everybody, email out the link to America Freedom to Fascism to everybody we got up on InfoWars.com. 0.97

01:37:50.000 Do it now because we cannot let this horde of miscreant fools like this guy, controlled by these devils, rule us. 0.98

01:37:59.000 Well, I couldn't have said it any better. 1.00

01:38:01.000 I mean, people just have certain beliefs.

01:38:06.000 He likes what Sean Hannity says.

01:38:08.000 I mean, come on, we all know what Sean Hannity is.

01:38:10.000 He's bought and paid for by the neocons.

01:38:12.000 And, you know, the war in Iraq was a legitimate war, and it's okay to go over there and kill all these people, and it's okay to torture people, and that's what we're living with. 0.99

01:38:21.000 We have people in America who feel that way, and it's unfortunate, but that's the reality, and that's what we have to overcome.

01:38:28.000 And that's what it is.

01:38:29.000 That's what the opposition is.

01:38:31.000 But you notice they've gone from denying a lot of what we say to now admitting it and saying, so what, you know, first... Exactly.

01:38:36.000 Right.

01:38:36.000 Now it's okay.

01:38:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:38.000 First, they're not torturing.

01:38:39.000 And Cheney comes out and goes, yeah, we're dunking people's heads underwater until they pass out.

01:38:43.000 And it simulates panic and death.

01:38:45.000 It is death.

01:38:46.000 And you basically take them to the edge of death.

01:38:47.000 But that's not torture.

01:38:49.000 You know, they're telling us that's not torture.

01:38:50.000 I know.

01:38:51.000 Believe me, you go grab your neighbor and start grounding them, folks.

01:38:53.000 You're going to go to prison for life.

01:38:55.000 And it's okay because they're protecting Americans.

01:38:58.000 And it's okay to put a chip in people, because they're doing it for our benefit.

01:39:00.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

01:39:01.000 He said we're liars.

01:39:02.000 He said there's not a move.

01:39:04.000 Sean Hannity, I have on tape, in my film, Police State 3 Total Incitement, no, no, it's in Masters of Terror, saying everybody needs a chip, and I have Andy Rooney on CBS saying everyone should be forced to take a chip to prove we're quote good people, but it doesn't exist.

01:39:19.000 There you go, there you go.

01:39:20.000 I mean, well, in my movie, you have Biden telling the Supreme Court Justice Roberts, you're going to have to rule that we can do this to people to track them.

01:39:28.000 I mean, it's right in the movie.

01:39:29.000 But the people, they want to deny it all.

01:39:32.000 They're just in denial.

01:39:33.000 Did you hear him say the North American Union hadn't been signed and isn't operating?

01:39:39.000 Yeah, it's not going to happen, yes.

01:39:41.000 It's in hundreds of papers.

01:39:42.000 It's on the nightly news.

01:39:44.000 And he's saying it doesn't exist, Aaron.

01:39:46.000 Well, I personally don't think it's in the news enough.

01:39:49.000 I don't think it's out there enough.

01:39:50.000 I think I can understand why the guy might not believe that.

01:39:53.000 I don't think it really is out there very strong.

01:39:55.000 Well, you're right.

01:39:56.000 It's been in a lot of the Canadian papers.

01:39:57.000 There's been some big ones here, but people don't read the paper.

01:40:00.000 I guess Lou Dobbs talked about it.

01:40:01.000 Yeah, well, Lou Dobbs talked about it, but not much more than Lou Dobbs talked about it.

01:40:05.000 I mean, who else is really talking?

01:40:07.000 I can understand why the guy wouldn't believe that, but yet, on the other hand, we all know it's true.

01:40:12.000 And that's the problem.

01:40:13.000 You know, we know what the truth is.

01:40:15.000 Isn't it frustrating, though?

01:40:16.000 That's why you made this movie.

01:40:17.000 That's why I made the movie.

01:40:18.000 I hope this guy's listening.

01:40:21.000 I hope he just goes and gets the movie and watches the movie.

01:40:23.000 Maybe he'll learn something.

01:40:24.000 Maybe he'll understand the truth.

01:40:26.000 You know, I shouldn't make fun of him.

01:40:27.000 I shouldn't get mad at him. 0.78

01:40:28.000 I do feel sorry for him, but part of me wants to slap him.

01:40:31.000 I mean, sir, believe me, I lose sleep at night.

01:40:33.000 I'm freaking out over my family.

01:40:35.000 We're all in danger.

01:40:36.000 You make jokes about how we're not dead.

01:40:37.000 They've killed a lot of us.

01:40:39.000 They've imprisoned a lot of us.

01:40:40.000 I mean, they've taken congressmen like Hanson, who was fighting the IRS, and they tortured him for months until his feet popped.

01:40:47.000 Yeah, well, what about Padilla?

01:40:49.000 What about Erwin Schiff and Joe for 13 years for nothing?

01:40:53.000 The guy says he doesn't know if the Supreme Court is the one who makes the final decision.

01:40:57.000 He doesn't even know that.

01:40:58.000 They went and gunned down William Cooper.

01:41:00.000 They've attacked me in a parking lot.

01:41:02.000 I have death threats all the time.

01:41:04.000 Stalkers going, I'm looking at your little dog, it's on the back porch.

01:41:07.000 And the little dog is on the back porch. 1.00

01:41:08.000 I don't appreciate people like you who've never lived, who don't know how we're fighting for you, you idiot! 1.00

01:41:14.000 A lot of us aren't probably going to die, you stupid moron! 1.00

01:41:20.000 Calm down, Alex. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Well, I mean, it makes me mad!

01:41:21.000 Calm down.

01:41:23.000 Calm down. 1.00

01:41:24.000 The Houston Chronicle's reporting you're building concentration camps, you idiot! 1.00

01:41:28.000 He's just like the Germans. 1.00

01:41:29.000 He's just like the Russians. 1.00

01:41:30.000 He's just like everybody else who denies this stuff!

01:41:34.000 Yeah, that's the truth.

01:41:35.000 That's the truth.

01:41:36.000 He doesn't know.

01:41:37.000 He just doesn't know. 1.00

01:41:37.000 He's ignorant. 1.00

01:41:40.000 But that's what we're here for. 1.00

01:41:41.000 We're not here to yell at them.

01:41:43.000 We're here to teach them.

01:41:45.000 And that's what we have to do.

01:41:46.000 That's why I made the movie.

01:41:47.000 That's why you make the movies you make.

01:41:48.000 And we're here to teach people.

01:41:50.000 And the guy fought for the propaganda.

01:41:55.000 I mean, Aaron, you could be making big movies and making tens of millions like you did in the past.

01:42:00.000 You could be doing all the things you did in the past.

01:42:02.000 You've decided now, for what, the last 12 years, you've been out there non-stop, 24 hours a day, spending all your money fighting this.

01:42:09.000 And then he's got the nerve to sit here and tell us we're bad!

01:42:12.000 Well, you know, he doesn't know, Alex.

01:42:15.000 He just doesn't know. 1.00

01:42:15.000 He's ignorant. 1.00

01:42:17.000 He doesn't know. 1.00

01:42:18.000 I mean, what can you do?

01:42:19.000 You can't pound it into his brain.

01:42:21.000 You can't lead a horse to water.

01:42:22.000 You can't make him drink.

01:42:24.000 And that's it.

01:42:25.000 Don't get so excited over this one guy.

01:42:27.000 Let's move on to other qualities.

01:42:29.000 Yeah, I'm going to do that.

01:42:30.000 It just freaks me out, Aaron.

01:42:32.000 Ah, just move on.

01:42:34.000 People have belief systems, and it's very hard to change a person's belief system.

01:42:38.000 Patrick in Kentucky.

01:42:39.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:42:40.000 The other kid's around. 0.70

01:42:41.000 No, he's flat like your head.

01:42:43.000 You know.

01:42:46.000 It's terrible.

01:42:51.000 These people that live in their belief systems, you can tell them over and over and over and show them what the truth is.

01:42:58.000 If you show them videos like In Plain Sight and Martial Law, you think you might get it?

01:43:03.000 I don't know.

01:43:07.000 I don't know if you've mentioned, but can you make sure that you guys hit books a million really hard?

01:43:17.000 He's saying he wants me to put my DVDs and books a million, Terror Storm hitting store shelves nationwide next Tuesday.

01:43:24.000 That's a good question.

01:43:24.000 Aaron, when is America Freedom from Fascism going to be in stores?

01:43:29.000 I haven't made that decision yet.

01:43:31.000 Right now I'm just putting it out on DVD with you and a few other people and on my website and that's it.

01:43:37.000 And I'll put it in the stores soon enough, but I haven't made that decision quite yet.

01:43:41.000 I understand.

01:43:42.000 Everything's moving so quick.

01:43:43.000 I'm going to move quick here now.

01:43:43.000 Anything else, Patrick?

01:43:45.000 Well, I just wanted to ask if you can counter this.

01:43:51.000 I'm just saying that the controlled electronic voting machinery is pretty much set in place, and the more people that show up to vote, the more numbers the computer hackers have to play with.

01:44:07.000 But what would be your counter argument to what I'm saying?

01:44:10.000 Well, I appreciate the call.

01:44:11.000 Let me comment on it, because I want to go to more calls.

01:44:14.000 Only 35% of the country has had the CIA-controlled big three companies put in their systems under the Help America Vote Act of 2002.

01:44:22.000 So, number one, if the numbers are so overwhelming, it doesn't matter how many votes there are, what they do is normally flip it.

01:44:27.000 And I would even call it hacking.

01:44:29.000 Hacking means it's somebody going into your computer, your website, that doesn't own it.

01:44:32.000 I mean, this is like me driving my car.

01:44:35.000 I haven't stolen my car.

01:44:36.000 The government paid the people to make these, they put them in, they steal them, and we have to make them steal it in front of everybody.

01:44:42.000 If they steal this one, people are now looking.

01:44:44.000 Aaron?

01:44:45.000 I agree with you.

01:44:46.000 Nothing I can add to that.

01:44:48.000 Okay, let's go to Josh in Ontario, Canada.

01:44:50.000 Thanks for holding, Josh.

01:44:52.000 No problem.

01:44:53.000 I bet that first caller is an avid Bruckheimer fan. 0.96

01:44:56.000 You know, lazy, self-serving, and un-American. 1.00

01:44:58.000 Mr. Russo, it's a pleasure, and thank you, Alex. 0.84

01:45:01.000 I owe you a thanks and a paycheck, and if I win the lottery, I owe you that too.

01:45:04.000 Because of you, actually, that I read a book a week and have written three screenplays.

01:45:09.000 But nonetheless, my boss is Completely for the bombing of Iran. 0.56

01:45:14.000 I tell him, you know, to go against, you know, that we should be against North Korea, if anything. 0.85

01:45:19.000 But nonetheless, he cited the Iranian Operation Judgment Day.

01:45:23.000 So, my questions are, can you tell me the verity of that operation?

01:45:26.000 Secondly, how much should I trust Quigley's tragedy and hope?

01:45:29.000 And also, is the old Inquisition, you know, with the Dominicans and the Franciscans, Similar to today's Gitmo.

01:45:37.000 And I'll take your answers out there.

01:45:40.000 Wow.

01:45:40.000 Thank you.

01:45:41.000 Thank you.

01:45:42.000 That's an encyclopedia of questions.

01:45:44.000 I don't even know where to start.

01:45:46.000 You were bringing up, look, the Iranians are almost no threat compared to other countries. 0.96

01:45:52.000 In fact, I want to play this little clip here.

01:45:54.000 It's the one about Iz and culture on drugs.

01:45:58.000 She looked totally out of her gourd on TV. 1.00

01:46:00.000 But I'm not going to play that part because you can't see it on the radio.

01:46:02.000 I want you to hear this ad they're running against a Democrat where they claim that Iran's about to hit us with nukes and is on the verge of having them.

01:46:10.000 Just roll about a minute of that, guys.

01:46:14.000 North Korea, close to a nuclear missile to reach America, yet Casey opposes deploying a missile defense system now.

01:46:20.000 Iran, also close, yet Casey opposes creating the bunker busting bombs that may be needed to stop them.

01:46:27.000 China, drilling oil just 50 miles off our coast, yet Casey opposes us doing the same.

01:46:32.000 Putting our energy at risk.

01:46:34.000 Terrorists trying to enter our country, yet Casey comes out for amnesty for illegals. 0.95

01:46:38.000 We just can't take a chance on Bob Casey.

01:46:43.000 Okay, so meanwhile it's our government that let China do that.

01:46:47.000 It's our government that gave Mexico the rights to the oil.

01:46:50.000 It's our government that's letting Cuba do whatever they want.

01:46:54.000 They want nuclear bunker busters, but notice they claim Iran is close to having missiles to nuke us and a bomb.

01:47:00.000 That's not even true!

01:47:02.000 So see, they lie, Aaron!

01:47:04.000 Again, Alex, you're covering it.

01:47:05.000 There's nothing for me to say.

01:47:06.000 I agree with you 100%.

01:47:08.000 And then meanwhile, we get all this talk about You know, I don't know how prolific the torture was.

01:47:14.000 We know that there was a lot of abuse of power, a lot of bad things the Catholic Church did in Europe.

01:47:18.000 I mean, nobody argues with that.

01:47:21.000 But I don't know.

01:47:21.000 You know, comparing it to Gitmo, there's this big debate.

01:47:24.000 Should they release the real photos and videos of the raping children and women that Congress has been allowed to see from the camps in Iraq?

01:47:33.000 And yeah, I think they should blur him out, but they should release him because, you know, these neocons get on radio and say it's not torture.

01:47:40.000 I mean, Limbaugh, I have him on tape, we're not going to play it, we've played it so many times, saying it's having fun.

01:47:44.000 He is having fun, Aaron Russo.

01:47:45.000 Is he having fun? 1.00

01:47:46.000 Yeah, having fun raping children. 1.00

01:47:48.000 Is that what Limbaugh said? 1.00

01:47:49.000 Yes, he did. 1.00

01:47:50.000 What a sick pervert. 1.00

01:47:52.000 Are you joking? 1.00

01:47:53.000 I've never heard that before.

01:47:54.000 No, no, no.

01:47:55.000 He says... Okay, dig it up.

01:47:57.000 Dig up the Limbaugh having fun clip, please.

01:47:59.000 You're joking with me.

01:48:01.000 Aaron, did you think I was joking about mercury being good for your brain?

01:48:05.000 I know you're not.

01:48:06.000 It's just so hard to conceive these things are being said and getting away with.

01:48:10.000 It's just so impossible.

01:48:12.000 It is.

01:48:13.000 While we're finding that clip, let's go to Pam in Texas. 0.99

01:48:17.000 Pam, thanks for holding.

01:48:18.000 Go ahead.

01:48:18.000 You're on the air with Aaron Russo.

01:48:20.000 Hi, Alex and Aaron.

01:48:22.000 First, I want to commend you both for what you're doing.

01:48:24.000 Absolutely fantastic work.

01:48:27.000 And then I have three observations, and I'll try to make them fairly quick.

01:48:32.000 The first is just a passing comment and not very relevant, but I wanted to point out to Austin listeners, Alex, that last Sunday, Austin was chemtrailed very heavily, and I was the last caller holding when your show ended Sunday.

01:48:46.000 I was trying to call to say... Chemtrailing is precious.

01:48:49.000 Eyes on the skies, Austin.

01:48:52.000 Yeah, I'm sure they are.

01:48:54.000 The barium is really good for you.

01:48:57.000 Right, right.

01:48:58.000 And for listeners that don't know about it, go to your health food store and ask them about Chlorella.

01:49:03.000 C-H-L-O-R-E-L-L-A. 1.00

01:49:06.000 And that's about all I want to remark about on the chemtrails.

01:49:10.000 My second comment is... Listen, I'm going to have to put you on hold, and Pam, you're going to have to move quick on the other side, okay?

01:49:14.000 It's our final segment with our guest.

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01:53:00.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:53:02.000 Nobel Prize winner, Joseph Stiglitz coming up.

01:53:08.000 I want to keep going to your calls, but this is our last five minutes of Aaron Ruscio.

01:53:12.000 Here's Limbaugh when they bring up Abu Ghraib and he just calls it blowing off steam, just a fraternity prank.

01:53:18.000 People were beaten to death there.

01:53:19.000 They were raped with acid.

01:53:21.000 That's the Army's own report from three years ago now, two years ago.

01:53:25.000 Here it is.

01:53:27.000 What's psychologically wrong with that?

01:53:29.000 It's not the ax so much, it was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked men and... Exactly!

01:53:37.000 Exactly my point!

01:53:39.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hamper them because they had a good time.

01:53:51.000 These people are being fired at every day.

01:53:55.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

01:53:56.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

01:54:00.000 You ever heard of need to blow some steam off?

01:54:03.000 And then he sells Club Gitmo shirts and says it's a wonderful place to be, Aaron.

01:54:07.000 That's unbelievable.

01:54:08.000 I've never heard that clip before, Alex.

01:54:10.000 I'm glad you have that clip.

01:54:11.000 Oh, I've had stuff much worse than that.

01:54:13.000 That just shows... I mean, how much more disgusting can we be in this country than what's happening here?

01:54:17.000 I mean, blowing... I mean, to say something like that on the air?

01:54:21.000 Just having fun?

01:54:22.000 Well, I made the point that the Nazis knew to keep it secret. 0.69

01:54:26.000 We don't even know that here anymore.

01:54:28.000 Yeah, Pam, real fast, finish up, because I want to go to Joe and Ron.

01:54:31.000 Go ahead.

01:54:32.000 Okay, I'm going to skip to my third point, actually, because this one relates to Aaron's movie.

01:54:36.000 Go ahead.

01:54:37.000 Okay, the Liberty Dollar, for those, libertydollar.org, for those that aren't familiar, the gold coin that came out in about 1998, and it's not legal tender, It's just recently getting hit by the U.S.

01:54:51.000 News with statements on their website and police have actually started arresting people for it.

01:54:55.000 Oh, I know.

01:54:56.000 Listen, I have a friend who at UT was out talking about it to somebody and they arrested him saying it was counterfeit.

01:55:02.000 It's totally legal silver coins.

01:55:04.000 Thanks.

01:55:04.000 Thank you for the call.

01:55:05.000 Aaron, that's another example of the craziness in this country.

01:55:08.000 Well, that's another example of a complete police state.

01:55:09.000 I mean, the Constitution defines the dollar.

01:55:12.000 I heard that story.

01:55:13.000 Did you hear about the story last year where a scout leader had a contest, we had a bunch of $2 bills looking up from it, and he was well known in the community.

01:55:22.000 He went to Best Buy and bought some CDs with some $2 bills.

01:55:26.000 They thought it was fake and arrested him. 1.00

01:55:27.000 The cops and the store people were so dumb. 0.98

01:55:29.000 All of them collectively didn't know $2 bills were real. 0.99

01:55:32.000 I heard that story, yeah, I was aware of that.

01:55:35.000 But the thing with the silver, the ceiling, Last caller.

01:55:37.000 We'll go to others later.

01:55:38.000 It's so obscene.

01:55:39.000 Here they're giving you fake money.

01:55:40.000 They're giving you a piece of paper that has no value.

01:55:42.000 And they're telling you you can't have sewer.

01:55:44.000 I mean, everything's perverted.

01:55:47.000 It's upside down.

01:55:48.000 You know, it's just, it is.

01:55:50.000 And they're trying to convince people.

01:55:52.000 There's this other guy that this is all normal.

01:55:53.000 All right, let's go ahead and talk to Joe in Wisconsin.

01:55:56.000 Last caller.

01:55:57.000 We'll go to others later.

01:55:58.000 Go ahead, Joe.

01:55:59.000 Hi, gentlemen.

01:56:01.000 I just wanted to cover some pre-election strangeness things.

01:56:04.000 For anybody who is concerned, as I am and everybody else is concerned, about the elections and the results, what they need to do is they need to go to their election commission and pick up an actual training manual.

01:56:16.000 They should have some lying around.

01:56:18.000 I've got ours right in front of me right now.

01:56:21.000 And the thickest chunk of the packet Is what to do with all the forms at the end of the day.

01:56:27.000 And it gives procedures for everything.

01:56:29.000 Okay, well listen, this is what I'm going to do.

01:56:30.000 I'm going to put you on hold if you want to hold.

01:56:32.000 Atmer Stiglitz is on.

01:56:33.000 We'll get to all your calls.

01:56:34.000 I want to be able to say bye to Aaron Russo.

01:56:36.000 Folks, he's done a yeoman's work.

01:56:38.000 Please get his new film, American Freedom from Fascism at Infowars.com.

01:56:41.000 And Aaron, so I don't lose you here, can I have you on for an hour on my new syndicated Sunday show this Sunday?

01:56:48.000 Yeah, you can do whatever you want Alex.

01:56:50.000 Well, I'm on from 4 to 6 p.m.

01:56:50.000 I'm always here to help.

01:56:52.000 Can I get you on in the second hour, say, 5 to 6 Central?

01:56:52.000 Central.

01:56:57.000 That'd be... What time is that here?

01:56:59.000 I'm in Arizona.

01:57:00.000 That'd be 3 to 4 your time.

01:57:03.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:57:04.000 Do me a favor.

01:57:05.000 When you get off the air, call me and let's pick up a plan.

01:57:08.000 Sure, you want to talk about that other thing too, right?

01:57:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:11.000 Okay, I really appreciate you, and I... Listen, I gotta tell you, I have more respect for you than I've ever had before.

01:57:18.000 You're a great man, you're doing the right thing, and just keep... don't ever stop what we're doing.

01:57:22.000 Well, same to you, my friend.

01:57:23.000 We'll talk to you soon.

01:57:24.000 You got it.

01:57:25.000 Joseph Stiklitz, former chief economist.

01:57:28.000 Take care.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 He's scheduled in this hour...

01:58:26.000 We talked to him this morning.

01:58:27.000 He's coming to Austin for the Texas Book Festival.

01:58:30.000 Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, who's criticized the IMF and World Bank's policies.

01:58:37.000 With huge guests like this though, I really should never announce them.

01:58:39.000 Every time I do announce a big globalist guest, it gets canned.

01:58:42.000 We'll see if we get him on.

01:58:42.000 We're trying him right now.

01:58:45.000 He's also probably accustomed to radio interviews starting at 5 after, but we're working on getting him right now.

01:58:51.000 And we'll also be taking your phones throughout this hour.

01:58:53.000 We had Aaron Russo on in the last hour and a half.

01:58:57.000 An amazing individual.

01:58:58.000 And we had a caller call in earlier who doesn't believe in the North American Union.

01:59:01.000 Who doesn't believe in any of this stuff.

01:59:04.000 He just thinks we're making it all up.

01:59:08.000 And I've learned about the North American Union for, I guess I learned of it about 13 years ago.

01:59:12.000 And I just can't believe that now it's in effect.

01:59:15.000 And people are in denial.

01:59:18.000 They just cannot, they cannot interface with reality.

01:59:23.000 They are in abject, willful denial.

01:59:29.000 I remember back, oh I guess it was in 2002, in fact I have the article here, March 4, 2002, InfoWars.com, The World Bank and Secret Argentine Plan, transcript of Greg Palast, journalist for BBC and observer in London, And you go to the transcript of the interview with Greg Palast going over what those documents meant that were released soon after Joseph Stiglitz left the World Bank.

02:00:00.000 Well, I'll tell you two things.

02:00:02.000 One, I spoke with the former Chief Economist Joe Stiglitz, who was fired by the World Bank, so I on BBC with The Guardian basically spent some time debriefing him.

02:00:10.000 It was like one of the scenes out of a Mission Impossible, you know, where the guy comes over from the other side and you spend hours debriefing him.

02:00:16.000 So I got the inside of what was happening at the World Bank.

02:00:19.000 In addition, he did Not brief me, but I got some other sources.

02:00:23.000 He would not give me inside documents, but other people handed me a giant stash of secret documents from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

02:00:31.000 And it goes on to say that, and so one of the things that is happening is that in fact, I was supposed to be on CNN with the head of the World Bank, Jim Wilkinson, it's now Paul Wolfowitz.

02:00:43.000 I guess you could have Wolf in your name to be there.

02:00:45.000 And he said he would not appear on CNN even if they put me on.

02:00:49.000 And so CNN did the craziest thing and pulled me off.

02:00:52.000 So now they're threatening total boycott.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, right.

02:00:55.000 So what we found was this.

02:00:57.000 We found inside these documents that basically they required nations to sign secret agreements in which they agreed to sell off their key assets in which they agreed to take economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved.

02:01:10.000 And then they didn't agree to these steps.

02:01:12.000 There was an average for each nation that signed 100 to 11 items, 111 items that they are required to sign off on.

02:01:21.000 If they didn't follow these steps, they would be cut off from all international borrowing.

02:01:25.000 You can't borrow any money in the international marketplace.

02:01:28.000 Now, no one could survive without borrowing.

02:01:30.000 And he goes on in the next, what, 10 pages, the transcript is even longer than that, to break down what these documents entail.

02:01:37.000 He put a lot of them on BBC, but there was a news blackout with this.

02:01:42.000 We've always wanted to get Joseph Stiglitz on the show.

02:01:46.000 We're trying to get him on right now.

02:01:47.000 Have you had any luck yet?

02:01:50.000 Just rings and rings and rings and rings.

02:01:52.000 Of course, more often than somebody just not coming on, more often we get our time zones scrambled.

02:01:57.000 But I was at the office an hour before air time when Kevin Smith was on the phone with Stiglitz talking about the interview.

02:02:06.000 So he was scheduled.

02:02:09.000 We'll continue to try to get him on.

02:02:11.000 If not, we'll have open phones in this third hour.

02:02:13.000 Get into Bush's smoke and mirrors, so-called border fence, and a lot more.

02:02:19.000 Right here on the GCN radio network, the websites are infowarriors.com, infowarriors.net, jonesreport.com, marshalllaw911.info, arnoldexposed.com, There's a bunch of others I didn't list, but the two big ones are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:02:34.000 Updated multiple times daily.

02:02:36.000 We'll be right back on the other side of this quick break and start going to your calls.

02:02:40.000 And hopefully getting Joseph Stiglitz on.

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02:05:52.000 All right, we're trying to hook up with Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz, former Chief Economist, World Bank.

02:05:57.000 He either got our time zone scrambled or I've talked about it.

02:06:01.000 Whenever I have a big guest in the past, I've learned to keep my mouth shut until they just suddenly appear.

02:06:05.000 And I think if I would have done that, he'd been there.

02:06:07.000 But a lot of times they find out who I am and freak out and don't come on.

02:06:11.000 But we'll see what happens.

02:06:13.000 If not, you know, there's no telling.

02:06:15.000 We get about 95% of the guests on that we do shut up, but we'll see.

02:06:19.000 It's always best when setting them up just to give them no information.

02:06:23.000 But we try our best to do that without being dishonest with people.

02:06:27.000 Let's go ahead and go back to your calls.

02:06:28.000 Joe had called in.

02:06:29.000 We ran out of time last hour.

02:06:30.000 I said, behold, we let him finish.

02:06:32.000 He's calling in about some manual about voting or something.

02:06:36.000 Go ahead, Joe.

02:06:37.000 Yeah, I've got the manual right in front of me.

02:06:39.000 And it has procedures for everything.

02:06:41.000 And if people want to... Okay, who's manual?

02:06:44.000 State of Wisconsin.

02:06:45.000 It's pretty much state standardized, but for each city it'll be a little different.

02:06:51.000 For people that can take time off on Tuesday.

02:06:56.000 Our polls are going to be open from 7 till 8 o'clock.

02:06:59.000 I understand.

02:07:00.000 What does the manual do?

02:07:01.000 Just tell us.

02:07:03.000 It's the Election Commission Poll Worker Training Manual.

02:07:06.000 For this year, it's have a certifier or whatever, so we've got those... But poll workers have no control over the wireless connections and hookups and... Actually, we don't have those kind of machines.

02:07:17.000 We just have the Scantron ones.

02:07:18.000 We still have the paper ballots.

02:07:20.000 Because they're just as bad, you feed them in, and it's then put on computer that can be manipulated.

02:07:25.000 Well, the thing is, if anybody wants a recount, we've got those ballots on hand, but they have to refeed, because we are... And refeed them with the same county clerk stealing the election.

02:07:34.000 Well, that's why we also have the observers.

02:07:39.000 And if somebody wants to be an observer, they cannot keep you out.

02:07:43.000 Now, if you have like 20 or 30 of them, that's why it's good to become an observer early on, so that they don't say, well, we've already got 20 people.

02:07:50.000 Sorry.

02:07:52.000 So you have to document everything.

02:07:54.000 If you read through the manual, it'll say step by step.

02:07:57.000 And if somebody It goes beyond that.

02:08:00.000 If they add something they're not supposed to, if they take something out that they're not supposed to, make sure you catch it on tape.

02:08:06.000 And you can demand to have a police officer come and arrest them for election fraud.

02:08:11.000 Or at least give them a warning.

02:08:12.000 Look, you've been caught doing this.

02:08:14.000 Don't.

02:08:15.000 And it'll look horrible on the news for anybody if somebody sees ballots going someplace they're not supposed to.

02:08:22.000 I mean, this is just to protect your rights.

02:08:25.000 And if you don't... Sure.

02:08:27.000 Well, I mean, and I appreciate your call.

02:08:28.000 People should get involved in the election process to see it for themselves.

02:08:32.000 I volunteered in, what was it?

02:08:34.000 1998 and 1988.

02:08:34.000 in, what was it, 1998 and 1988.

02:08:40.000 And I was there, and I saw in the Republican primary that was at the Austin Convention Center, I saw cases, I mean I was there stacking the scantrons to make sure they were being stacked correctly or in the right order, I mean I was there stacking the scantrons to make sure they were being stacked correctly or in the right order, facing It looks just like a college or high school exam system, A, B, or C, or whatever.

02:09:09.000 And then it's fed through and read by a computer.

02:09:11.000 Optical scanner is the proper term.

02:09:13.000 And then put into a computer.

02:09:14.000 And I mean, Pat Buchanan had more than half.

02:09:18.000 I mean, it was, because I have to admit, I was stacking them, I was looking, I was asking other people, I was saying, what are you seeing, Pat Buchanan?

02:09:26.000 And you're sitting there, and then I'd take them and cram them in the machine.

02:09:31.000 And then it came out that night, he got 8% of the vote in Travis County.

02:09:36.000 And then they caught him in Arizona and other places where he'd really won.

02:09:39.000 They stole it from him.

02:09:40.000 I mean, Pat Buchanan won the Republican primary.

02:09:43.000 He should have been the Republican candidate running against Bill Clinton.

02:09:48.000 Not the corpse they ran, Bob Dole.

02:09:51.000 You know, the consummate insider.

02:09:54.000 And that didn't happen.

02:09:56.000 It was all over the country they stole it from Pat Buchanan because he has the popular ideas.

02:10:00.000 He's a populist.

02:10:01.000 He's what the people want.

02:10:03.000 And he's predominantly anti-war, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-open borders, anti-globalist.

02:10:09.000 He's what Republicans want.

02:10:10.000 They don't want Bob Dole.

02:10:12.000 So it's been going on forever.

02:10:16.000 And I'm told we've got another number for Stiglitz.

02:10:17.000 Did you have any luck?

02:10:21.000 You're getting him right now.

02:10:21.000 He told me that a few minutes ago.

02:10:23.000 I'm sitting here, salivating.

02:10:27.000 Well, we have him!

02:10:27.000 Well, better late than never.

02:10:29.000 We're so honored to have him.

02:10:31.000 Well, it's great to be here.

02:10:32.000 is making globalization work.

02:10:34.000 The last one of the other big bestsellers he had was globalization and it's a disconnect.

02:10:38.000 Joseph E. Stiglitz, Dr. Stiglitz, won the Nobel Prize in 2001 for his economic ideas and theorems.

02:10:48.000 I really think it's better for him to introduce himself, the most important points, because if I tried to go through all his letters and laurels, he would be here for all day.

02:10:56.000 Thank you for coming on, sir.

02:10:57.000 Well, it's great to be here.

02:10:58.000 Sorry about the confusion.

02:10:59.000 Well, that happens sometimes.

02:11:01.000 It's probably on our end.

02:11:03.000 Just in a nutshell, sir, tell us about yourself.

02:11:06.000 Well, I'm an economist.

02:11:09.000 My theoretical work, for which I got the Nobel Prize, was called The Economics of Asymmetric Information or Imperfect Information.

02:11:17.000 It's about how markets work when some people know more than others, which is the case in all markets.

02:11:26.000 And what was so remarkable is that for 200 years, economic theory had been developed on the assumption of perfect information.

02:11:34.000 And it was just hoped that a world with imperfect information would be almost like a world with perfect information.

02:11:41.000 And I showed that that was obviously not the case.

02:11:45.000 But then the other thing I did is I was asked by President Clinton to serve on his Council of Economic Advisors and eventually I served as the Chairman of the Council, which is his chief economic advisor for economic policy and a whole range of issues I dealt with.

02:12:03.000 And then after leaving that, in 1997, I went on to work at the World Bank as their Chief Economist and Senior Vice President, which is where I got really very deeply involved in the issues of globalization, which I wrote about in my book, Globalization is Discontent, in my more recent book, Making Globalization Work.

02:12:23.000 And rather than get into complex theorems and the unified theory of economics and all of that, because even for myself, it's hard to understand, but for our general listening audience, some probably know as much as you do, but most probably don't have even an idea.

02:12:37.000 Can you boil down why you left the World Bank, why you were critical, your term coining the IMF riot?

02:12:45.000 What's wrong with the way that the global system is being administered?

02:12:50.000 Can you crystallize it in maybe a two-minute statement?

02:12:54.000 Well, the most important thesis that I bring out in my new book is that we've become more economically integrated, more interdependent, more dependent on each other, but we don't have the political institutions that can help us address the needs that we have to act cooperatively.

02:13:14.000 We have to act cooperatively as we are one integrated world, world economy.

02:13:20.000 And the result of that is that, quite often, there are big losers. 0.58

02:13:25.000 And we haven't paid enough attention to those losers. 1.00

02:13:29.000 Aren't we really, Dr. Stiglitz, aren't we really seeing modern neo-mercantilism? 0.95

02:13:35.000 Well, we are seeing it in many places around the world.

02:13:38.000 We talk a lot about exports.

02:13:41.000 We want to promote our exports.

02:13:44.000 We don't think about it from a systemic point of view.

02:13:47.000 Our exports are some other country's imports.

02:13:50.000 So if every country just promotes exports, then of course the whole trading system doesn't work.

02:13:56.000 Sure, sure.

02:13:57.000 I know you're not here to dish dirt, but you did back in 2002 when you left as their chief economist at the World Bank.

02:14:03.000 What was your major... I mean, I have transcripts here and things you've written, but in your words, why did you...

02:14:09.000 Why did you leave the World Bank?

02:14:11.000 What do you think they're doing that's wrong?

02:14:13.000 I mean, the predatory practices, the IMF World Bank documents that came out shortly after you left in the BBC, your meeting with Greg Palast, where, you know, it's this predatory system of going in and blowing out economies so global financial corporations can come in and just take over.

02:14:29.000 Yeah, that's one way of putting it.

02:14:32.000 The more fundamental thing was that the whole system was rigged against the poor countries. 0.90

02:14:38.000 ...rigged for the advanced industrial countries, and that the result of that is that there were an awful lot of losers.

02:14:45.000 To give you one example, the last round of trade agreements were so unfair that the poorest countries in the world were actually left worse off.

02:14:57.000 So that while the advanced industrial countries, the big multinational corporations, came out as big winners, there were unfortunately a lot of people who were losers.

02:15:09.000 But the documents that were released, I mean the premeditated nature of this, who are the players that are behind, you know, not just rigging it where the industrialized corporations that control the industrialized first world systems, I mean really it's a type of weight, you know, the IMF riot, bringing in conditions that cause even greater collapses for greater consolidation.

02:15:31.000 Well that's right.

02:15:34.000 Part of the problem is they had an agenda that they talked about called privatization and liberalization.

02:15:39.000 Privatization meant selling off government assets, assets that had been invested in over decades to foreign companies, often at a fraction of their true market value.

02:15:54.000 So while the citizens of the country had worked hard, saved, invested that money over a period of 20-30 years, When they sold the assets, the citizens of that country got almost nothing for those assets.

02:16:10.000 Other cases where water is a basic necessity of life.

02:16:15.000 They were crippling in a week, as you wrote.

02:16:18.000 I mean, the private corporation pays off the politician, basically, pays off the government, and then seizes the infrastructure, and then jacks up prices.

02:16:25.000 That's right.

02:16:26.000 I mean, what happened with many of these cases, they had privatization before regulation.

02:16:31.000 At least we understand that if you're going to have a natural monopoly, a company selling electricity, if you have only one company doing it, you need to regulate it.

02:16:43.000 And what happened to IMF didn't understand what we do here in the United States and what every other advanced industrial country does.

02:16:51.000 If you're going to have a monopoly, you have to make sure that it doesn't overcharge.

02:16:55.000 So they privatized these government enterprises, didn't put in the regulation, And sometimes the result of that was the prices increased enormously.

02:17:04.000 And then the predatory nature was so great it would even then debase the economy to the point of where the privatization went belly-o.

02:17:11.000 There were many cases of that kind, but the example in Mexico next door, they privatized the roads, and then of course they weren't able to maintain those roads, and the government had to again take over the roads after the company had collapsed.

02:17:27.000 Joseph Stiklitz, former Chief Economist, World Bank.

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02:17:30.000 Quick break.

02:17:31.000 You brought us into roads.

02:17:33.000 That was the next question I had.

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02:22:05.000 Welcome back!

02:22:06.000 Dr. Joseph Stiglitz is our guest.

02:22:14.000 He's got a new book out.

02:22:16.000 We'll tell you about it before he leaves us.

02:22:20.000 He'll be here with us for about 40-45 after or so.

02:22:26.000 And we are honored to have him again.

02:22:28.000 You mentioned roads.

02:22:30.000 You were telling a story about Mexico, quote, privatizing roads.

02:22:33.000 Please continue, Doctor.

02:22:34.000 Well, the point was a very simple one.

02:22:37.000 They sold the roads to the private enterprise, and the hope was that they would be more efficient.

02:22:46.000 Of course, what happens is that they didn't maintain the roads, they couldn't generate enough revenue, and they eventually added default turn but the ropes back to the government different lots of other examples Mexico has provided a number one in more a disastrous was with the privatized the bank I and argument again with that they would be more efficient

02:23:09.000 I in many cases that happens but in case in Mexico the way they privatized led to a major banking collapse The government had to bail out.

02:23:21.000 A lot of people wound up with a lot of money outside of Mexico.

02:23:25.000 Chase Manhattan Citibank.

02:23:28.000 And it cost the people of Mexico an amount equivalent to about 40% of GDP.

02:23:34.000 It's really one of the greatest robberies that have ever occurred.

02:23:37.000 Exactly, and that was well publicized.

02:23:40.000 Now, speaking of roads, I was going to bring that up, but not in Mexico.

02:23:42.000 Here, the Spanish company Centrum does sweetheart deals, and they've done the calculations even Mainstream News has, for about 5% of the true value of existing roads, they're being ceded them

02:23:54.000 But we're talking existing major arteries and being given them to put transponders in the cars, taxes at exorbitant levels, to fund a lot of North American Union projects, some of the government funding goes into that, the new SPP, Security Prosperity Partnership, that's come out, and so I'm now seeing the same IMF World Bank vultures coming into the industrialized world.

02:24:16.000 Can you speak to that?

02:24:17.000 Well, this is a movement that's gone all over the world, a movement trying to turn over Basic facilities, water, roads, to the private sector.

02:24:32.000 The reason for it, in part, the good reason is that it's supposedly more efficient, often turns out not to be the case.

02:24:39.000 The bad reason, which is really driving it, is that the governments today don't have to pay the budget constraints.

02:24:44.000 They get a little bit of money up front, but then the problems are Left to future administrations.

02:24:52.000 Isn't it also that 70 plus percent of the stock market ownership is by institutional purchasers in government?

02:25:00.000 I don't know the exact numbers, but increasingly a large fraction of our stock is owned by our pension funds, institutions of that kind.

02:25:11.000 Well, I looked at the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for Texas a few years ago, and the lion's share was owned by companies.

02:25:17.000 I mean, not companies, but by government.

02:25:21.000 It could be.

02:25:22.000 I don't know.

02:25:22.000 I haven't looked at that particular set of data.

02:25:25.000 That's such a huge field in economics, I understand.

02:25:28.000 But can you speak directly to this?

02:25:30.000 So you agree there is a massive move now, not just in the third world, with this so-called privatization that I call hijacking and looting, but now in Europe, the United Kingdom, and the United States, Canada.

02:25:42.000 Yeah, it is.

02:25:44.000 Some of the failures that put a dampener on this movement, and in the UK they privatized the railroads, and everybody today recognizes what a failure that has been.

02:25:54.000 The railroads weren't maintained, the roadbeds weren't maintained, there were a number of accidents, people were killed, and so that a number of people are, on the basis of that experience, are rethinking this policy of privatization.

02:26:08.000 What has caused predatory globalization?

02:26:12.000 What has caused it to shift into such a predatory stance?

02:26:15.000 Well, I think, of course, everybody's always wanted to take advantage of others to the extent that they could.

02:26:22.000 I think the fundamental difference is a free market ideology that is being used, or more accurately, abused by those who have seen how to take advantage of that rhetoric.

02:26:36.000 So, it sounds good to say Oh, private enterprises are more efficient than government.

02:26:43.000 But take the Social Security Administration.

02:26:45.000 A couple years ago, there was an attempt to try to privatize Social Security.

02:26:51.000 The fact is, the Social Security Administration is more efficient than any private insurance company, because they don't have to spend all the money on advertising and trying to cream skim to figure out who's the best risk, who's the worst risk.

02:27:05.000 In the UK, they did privatize the Social Security system and at least part of it.

02:27:12.000 And the result of that was that benefits were reduced 40% because of transaction costs.

02:27:17.000 Dr. Stiglitz, final segment with you on the other side.

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02:30:55.000 Alright, I got three or four final questions for Joseph Stiglitz.

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02:31:13.000 Dr. Joseph E. Stiglitz, of course, has written Globalization and its Disconnects.

02:31:16.000 His new book is out, Making Globalization Work.

02:31:19.000 He was the Chief Economist at the World Bank and the Vice President of the World Bank.

02:31:23.000 What do you think of the difference between the last head, Wiltonson, and the new head that we see here from the United States, Paul Wolfowitz?

02:31:37.000 I worked with Wilkinson very closely, and we tried to actually redirect the World Bank to focus more on poor people, reduce poverty, a comprehensive approach to development, to try to cut back a little bit on the privatization.

02:31:59.000 The liberalization was called the Washington Consensus, a consensus between the World Bank and the IMF and the U.S.

02:32:04.000 Treasury.

02:32:05.000 About how to run development, but actually an agenda that really failed almost everywhere that it tried.

02:32:14.000 So that was what we were trying.

02:32:16.000 The current administration has not, Wolfowitz has unfortunately not really been able to put together a comprehensive approach to development.

02:32:30.000 It's only emphasized corruption.

02:32:33.000 But it hasn't even put forward a kind of agenda for dealing with corruption.

02:32:36.000 For instance, there are these secret bank accounts.

02:32:41.000 There was an agreement among advanced industrial countries to do something about the secret bank accounts that play such an important role in facilitating corruption.

02:32:51.000 But the Bush administration vetoed that.

02:32:55.000 In August of 2001, Of course, in September 2001, we realized that these secret bank accounts not only facilitate corruption, they also facilitate terrorism.

02:33:07.000 But the focus was on increasing the profits of those who engage in tax evasion, all those who use these kinds of bank accounts for nefarious purposes.

02:33:17.000 But that would take a global authority to do that, so I think on the surface, it sounds good, but that would be dangerous.

02:33:23.000 But then it does show that Bush doesn't want to stop all of these other secret bank accounts.

02:33:27.000 What do you think about things like John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman?

02:33:32.000 Have you read that book?

02:33:34.000 I haven't read all of it.

02:33:35.000 I mean, what he's raising, the basic point that he's raising is that a lot of the aid Do what he's supposed to do.

02:33:46.000 Much of it seems to be motivated by the interest of contractors.

02:33:53.000 And I think, unfortunately, there's a certain element of truth in that.

02:33:56.000 There's an overtone in this book, a little bit of a conspiracy.

02:33:59.000 I'm not sure if it's conspiratorial.

02:34:02.000 The effects are much the same as if they were a conspiracy.

02:34:05.000 And the effects are, we've got super powerful global corporations basically buying off even western governments and using the IMF and World Bank monies to basically go in and blow out economies and buy them up.

02:34:16.000 In fact, that was one of my main criticisms, that they push these policies called capital market liberalization that let money, speculative money, come in, come out.

02:34:27.000 You can't build factories of money that can come in and out overnight, but what you can do That kind of volatility destroyed the economy.

02:34:35.000 The financial markets made money when the money was coming in, then they made money when they had to restructure the devastation that they left behind.

02:34:42.000 What about the North American Union?

02:34:44.000 They've signed it, it's officially now being set up, the Asian Union's been officially announced, but it seems like it's the same corporations that are in there writing up all of the basic laws and tenets of these new global structures, and the people, by and large, aren't even aware of it.

02:35:01.000 Well, I think that is a problem.

02:35:04.000 Part of the thing is, there's something called the North American Pre-Trade Agreement.

02:35:07.000 If it were a real pre-trade agreement, it would just be a couple of pages.

02:35:10.000 We eliminate our tariffs, they eliminate theirs.

02:35:12.000 We eliminate our non-tariff subsidy and our subsidies, they eliminate theirs.

02:35:16.000 But these agreements are thousands of pages.

02:35:19.000 And of course no citizen can read that.

02:35:21.000 Dr. Stiglitz, whenever we hear North American Union or any of this, this is really just powerful interest groups getting together, rewriting the laws under a new framework that suits them.

02:35:32.000 Well, I think one of my concerns that I raise is that there is not the kind of democratic accountability and transparency that we've come to demand within our own governments.

02:35:45.000 We don't always get it.

02:35:46.000 But these international institutions, for instance, don't have a Freedom of Information Act.

02:35:53.000 Some of the basic protections that we put in place, transparency, To make sure that citizens can know what is going on, and that's one of the points that I emphasize very strongly, both in my old book, Globalization Makes Discontent, and in my new book, Making Globalization Work.

02:36:10.000 Let me ask you, I've got two final questions and I want to plug the book and let you get out of here.

02:36:14.000 Global government, I mean, it's here, it's being set up, the three unions are being slowly merged together, but still the mainstream media will call that a conspiracy theory when all the official documents say that this is really being set up.

02:36:27.000 Number one, I mean, what do you say about global government, or how it's forming, and why do you think there's so much denial by people that it's happening?

02:36:36.000 Well, I mean, first, the fact that we are economically interdependent does mean that we have to undertake certain actions together.

02:36:44.000 and if we don't, there are some problems that won't be solved.

02:36:47.000 For instance, there were these ozone-destroying gases that were putting holes in the atmosphere, letting in radiation that was causing skin cancer.

02:36:58.000 Absolutely necessary to deal with this problem if you don't want to get cancer.

02:37:02.000 And so there was an agreement, a very specific agreement only, It doesn't run in the whole world.

02:37:09.000 It just says you can't produce those ozone-destroying gases that lead in.

02:37:13.000 But if you've got a global authority that knocks out secret bank accounts, and then of course that global power can selectively do that, that is the ultimate tenet of global government.

02:37:22.000 Well, no.

02:37:23.000 What you need is just very limited regulations that restrict certain kinds of bad behavior.

02:37:29.000 But then that's unified.

02:37:31.000 Doctor, that's unified regulation.

02:37:33.000 Well, no, they're not.

02:37:34.000 They're just minimal.

02:37:35.000 Let me give you an example.

02:37:36.000 I used to see these old cowboy movies when we were growing up, and there would be different states, and the bandit would always ride on his horse across the state line, and the sheriff couldn't stop him.

02:37:50.000 Well, if you're going to have safe havens for criminals going across state lines, it's not going to be good for our global economic system.

02:38:00.000 So unfortunately, whether you like it or not, we have become interdependent, and that means you have to address some of these problems that go across the borders.

02:38:11.000 Sure, sure.

02:38:11.000 You've got to go in a minute, but what I'm trying to say is this.

02:38:15.000 It's all the mechanisms, the apparatchik of the IMF, World Bank, Ex-Im Bank, World Trade Organization, World Health Organization, NATO, you know, all of these are controlled by the same institutions, all the same money powers, and they're all causing the major problems, and then they always have a good cop, and I don't doubt you're probably a nice person, very intelligent, a good cop who comes out and says, oh we need a loving, you know, global framework, and a good one, and you know,

02:38:44.000 So we're given the false choice of a loving global government or an evil, nasty, fascistic, George Bushian global government.

02:38:51.000 And at the end of the day, those of us that don't want interdependence, those of us that want to be sovereign, I don't think globalization has been good for the U.S. 0.98

02:38:57.000 We've gone from the powerhouse to the, you know, to the uh... crap house, excuse me. 0.83

02:39:03.000 I mean, it's destroying us. 0.69

02:39:05.000 Well, in fact, I think if we hadn't taken advantage of globalization, we would actually be much poorer than we are now.

02:39:14.000 Unfortunately, we haven't managed it as well as we should.

02:39:18.000 Now, maybe I'm coming from the Midwest.

02:39:21.000 I have a certain Midwest optimism that we can do better.

02:39:24.000 And it's clear that we've made some very, very big mistakes.

02:39:28.000 And you've repeatedly talked about the fact that we've been borrowing.

02:39:32.000 We're borrowing $3 billion from countries elsewhere.

02:39:36.000 But I don't think it's a mistake that he gives these corporations, they're always left with the bag, the taxpayers pick up the tab.

02:39:42.000 Well, I think that's right, and that's why we need more transparency, we need to have more accountability of what our government is doing, we need to know more about what it is doing.

02:39:54.000 But that won't be resolved if we walk away from globalization.

02:39:58.000 Well, I mean, regardless, the leaders of globalization, the people, the prime movers, they're always grab the money and run, and it's just a revolving door, and it just keeps, it keeps happening.

02:40:06.000 I say, you know, go back to, you know, the way it was previous, or the Bretton Woods Agreement, you know, get back, I mean, look at what's happening to the dollar.

02:40:13.000 In fact, let me ask you, where do you think the dollar's going, the debt bubble, the real estate market?

02:40:17.000 Down.

02:40:18.000 I mean, I saw the Financial Times of London, what, three months ago, saying that the elite is saying we've got to position our money to survive during a crash.

02:40:25.000 They're not even saying they can pull us out of it.

02:40:27.000 Now there's only a discussion of them surviving the crash landing.

02:40:30.000 Well, I am increasingly worried.

02:40:32.000 I've been worried about this for some time.

02:40:34.000 The real estate prices last month, new real estate, went down 10%.

02:40:39.000 So do you see a huge correction, global recession or depression?

02:40:44.000 I see a correction, and if it's well managed.

02:40:48.000 It will only be a slowdown.

02:40:49.000 If it's not well managed, it could be a recession.

02:40:52.000 Okay, last question.

02:40:54.000 We know there are now the biggest splits in the ruling intelligentsia and the main owners of the wealth inside the elite.

02:41:01.000 We see this in publications.

02:41:02.000 We see this in splits.

02:41:04.000 I've talked to people inside the last Bilderberg Group meeting.

02:41:07.000 It was in the Canadian press.

02:41:08.000 Screaming at each other.

02:41:10.000 Have you ever attended Bilderberg and have you seen a split in the past?

02:41:13.000 Well, no, I haven't attended that meeting, but there are a lot of disagreements among the elites.

02:41:21.000 One of the things that makes me more optimistic, though, is that there's a beginning to realize that we are facing some serious problems.

02:41:30.000 That we can't go on as we have.

02:41:32.000 But I'm saying the same institutions that have always done the same thing in the past, feather their own nest at the expense of the third world and the first world. 0.77

02:41:41.000 It doesn't seem like they're the people to continue.

02:41:43.000 Every time they put us in harm's way, then they come back with a new solution.

02:41:46.000 I mean, take debt forgiveness.

02:41:48.000 I mean, you take, say, Nigeria borrows $5 billion, they end up paying $33 billion, and then now we call it debt forgiveness to cut back some of what they owe.

02:41:56.000 If they've paid $30-something billion off of an initial, you know, $4 or $5 billion, then they don't owe anything!

02:42:02.000 I agree with you on that, and in fact, it's worse than what you described, because accompanying that debt forgiveness is a whole set of conditions that make them give up their sovereignty.

02:42:12.000 And in some countries, the loans in the first place were We're made for arms payments that go to arms dealers.

02:42:20.000 The money didn't even go to help the people of the country.

02:42:23.000 What elite do you think is preeminent right now in global politics?

02:42:26.000 That is, outside countries.

02:42:28.000 44 of the biggest hundred economies are private corporations.

02:42:30.000 What corporations?

02:42:32.000 Is it Energy?

02:42:32.000 Is it Defense?

02:42:33.000 Is it the people at the Bilderberg Group?

02:42:35.000 The CFR?

02:42:36.000 I mean, who's the most powerful?

02:42:37.000 Who has the most influence right now?

02:42:39.000 Well, I wouldn't try to parse it that way.

02:42:41.000 I wouldn't put it quite that way.

02:42:43.000 All of these groups are powerful and influential.

02:42:47.000 I think, unfortunately, in this current administration, the defense industries and the energy industries have really been running the show, and it has been disastrous.

02:42:58.000 I don't think there's ever been a time in recent history where two groups, two industries like that, have exerted so much influence on policies to such disastrous effects.

02:43:09.000 So there's not enough separation of powers?

02:43:13.000 Well, we still have our different groups in Congress.

02:43:19.000 We have the Executive Branch.

02:43:20.000 What do you think of H.R.

02:43:21.000 6166, the Enemy Combatants Military Commissions Act?

02:43:26.000 I'm not sure I know all the details of that.

02:43:29.000 Well, it abolished 9 of the 10 Bill of Rights.

02:43:32.000 That's been top-notch.

02:43:32.000 I don't know what bill you're talking about.

02:43:34.000 It's the bill I think we're talking about.

02:43:36.000 I don't know the bills by all these numbers.

02:43:38.000 But if it's what I think you're talking about, I think it's a disaster.

02:43:43.000 Yeah, the one past three weeks ago, dealing with torture.

02:43:48.000 Exactly.

02:43:49.000 I grew up under the idea that there were certain basic things that defined us as Americans.

02:43:54.000 Innocent until proven guilty.

02:43:55.000 Due process, yeah.

02:43:56.000 Due process, rid of habeas corpus, you can't be put in prison without Uh, you know, uh, uh, government bringing charges against you.

02:44:07.000 I think that almost defined us as Americans.

02:44:09.000 Do you think that we are in danger of ending up having what you call the IMF riots someday here in America?

02:44:14.000 Uh, I don't think we're in danger of those kinds of riots, but I do think that we ought to be thinking a lot more about our basic rights and principles.

02:44:24.000 And that bill, as far as I can understand, really did compromise some of our basic rights.

02:44:31.000 And we thought of it as only compromising the rights of some people who are not Americans, but once you start breaking down these principles, you know, there's a basic golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

02:44:44.000 Well that's what's scary, they said it didn't affect citizens, but it does say in there, it does, sir.

02:44:48.000 Well, and not only that, other countries are going to reciprocate.

02:44:52.000 And Americans are traveling all over the time, you know, doing business in other countries, So in fact, it does put Americans at jeopardy, and no matter what, you look at it.

02:45:03.000 Do you ever talk to David Rockefeller?

02:45:07.000 Not very often.

02:45:09.000 What's on his mind when you talk to him?

02:45:12.000 I haven't talked to him recently enough to be able to answer that question.

02:45:15.000 The last time you talked to him, what was he talking about?

02:45:17.000 I can't remember, actually.

02:45:20.000 You're going to be here in Austin this weekend at the Texas Book Festival.

02:45:26.000 It's not Texas Book Festival into Google, folks.

02:45:28.000 You'll find out all about it.

02:45:29.000 You're speaking Sunday at the Capitol, aren't you?

02:45:31.000 That's right.

02:45:32.000 On my book, Making Globalization Work.

02:45:35.000 Well, maybe we'll pop in with the news crew and get a five-minute interview with you for the local TV show.

02:45:39.000 Making globalization work?

02:45:40.000 I think it's a dead horse.

02:45:42.000 I don't think you can make something that's fundamentally been flawed and compromised work.

02:45:46.000 But we are globalized now, so who knows where we're going?

02:45:49.000 We can make it work better.

02:45:50.000 Yeah, I guess so.

02:45:53.000 That's what we're talking about.

02:45:56.000 Well, you're going to be there speaking about the new book?

02:45:59.000 That's right, and trying to explain how we can make... why it hasn't been working, the ways in which it hasn't been working.

02:46:05.000 And so ideas about how we can make it work better.

02:46:08.000 But they did get mad at you.

02:46:09.000 I mean, some say you left, some say you were fired.

02:46:11.000 What really happened at the World Bank to you?

02:46:14.000 Oh, well, it was a mixture.

02:46:16.000 What they said is that I could stay as long as I didn't say anything and didn't talk to the press, didn't talk on radio.

02:46:23.000 I had originally come there and said, you know, if I'm going to go accept this kind of job, I want to be able to speak my mind, talk about what I think is what ought to be done for Making the world a better place, helping the developing countries, helping the poor in the United States and other advanced industrial countries.

02:46:41.000 They weren't interested in that, and so we amicably parted ways.

02:46:48.000 Did they get mad when all those documents magically were released?

02:46:52.000 Well, the people at the IMF were not very happy when I criticized them.

02:47:00.000 I think they were particularly unhappy Because I predicted that certain things would happen as a result of their policies.

02:47:08.000 I turned out to be right.

02:47:09.000 If I'd been wrong, I think they could have forgiven me, but the fact that I was right made them particularly upset.

02:47:15.000 And when you say correction, again, the Financial Times and others are saying they see massive upheaval.

02:47:21.000 I mean, when you say correction, are you talking about... I mean, openly, the financial elite are talking about just trying to survive what's coming.

02:47:27.000 Do you think the debt bubble will pop, or what's going to happen?

02:47:30.000 Well, I think it all depends on how well this whole thing is managed.

02:47:34.000 There is absolutely no doubt that there is misalignment, is the euphemism that people use, and that there will be a correction.

02:47:45.000 I think if it's handled well, there'll be a slowdown.

02:47:48.000 We already see a slowdown.

02:47:49.000 The numbers that came out today on the quarterly growth figures show the slowdown.

02:47:54.000 If it's well managed, it will go from the slowdown into a recovery.

02:48:01.000 It's going to be difficult.

02:48:01.000 How is the management right now?

02:48:03.000 Are they doing the right thing?

02:48:08.000 No, this has been perhaps the worst six years of mismanagement of the macroeconomy.

02:48:16.000 I think there's a broad consensus on both parties about the mismanagement of the economy.

02:48:22.000 When do you see it imploding then?

02:48:24.000 Well, as I say, I think that we can avoid an implosion if we manage this very carefully, but it's going to be very risky.

02:48:31.000 Okay, and you're talking the next 12 months?

02:48:33.000 24 months?

02:48:34.000 I think we're going to go through some very difficult times in the next 12 months.

02:48:37.000 The next 24 months, yeah.

02:48:38.000 Okay, thank you, sir, for joining us.

02:48:40.000 Take care.

02:48:41.000 Okay, thank you.

02:48:42.000 You bet.

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02:51:48.000 Yeah.

02:51:49.000 But I want police and military and government people listening who don't study wide spectrum data to realize that I can have an engineer in about the collapse of buildings.

02:51:58.000 I can have a Nobel Prize winner in economics on.

02:52:01.000 We can have somebody on about ranch management.

02:52:03.000 We can have somebody on about any issue.

02:52:05.000 I'm going to speak on something I know what I'm talking about.

02:52:09.000 Okay?

02:52:10.000 World government's real.

02:52:11.000 They're planning to take everything you've got.

02:52:13.000 All the elite experts in economics and banking are saying that we are going to have a massive correction.

02:52:21.000 And most of them are saying we're not going to make it out of it.

02:52:23.000 You heard him say really bad.

02:52:26.000 Global depression.

02:52:27.000 Ron Paul saying it.

02:52:29.000 And I talked to stockbrokers, business advisors.

02:52:31.000 They don't know anything.

02:52:32.000 They play within the false paradigm that they're projected, that they're given by the global corporations that own the financial media.

02:52:39.000 And you try to talk to somebody who's a stockbroker.

02:52:42.000 What do you know about stocks, Alex?

02:52:44.000 Well, I know the Dow's rigged with only winners, and I know the money supply's been devalued by 44%, so the Dow's really at 6,200 and something.

02:52:51.000 Oh, what's that?

02:52:52.000 Oh, money devalue?

02:52:54.000 What's that mean?

02:52:56.000 And again, I don't even claim to be that smart.

02:52:58.000 I just study this stuff.

02:53:00.000 And let me tell you, I see bad, bad, bad, bad all over the place.

02:53:04.000 And so, we know what we're talking about on 9-11.

02:53:07.000 North American Union.

02:53:08.000 The economy, the dollar, everything.

02:53:11.000 Okay, this show needs to be on every talk station in the country.

02:53:14.000 It isn't.

02:53:15.000 If we had real information getting out there, we could save this country.

02:53:19.000 I know we've got a lot of phone lines.

02:53:20.000 I'll try to take calls here at the end quickly, each caller.

02:53:22.000 It's just... I'll be on the radio this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

02:53:25.000 We're going to have Aaron Russo on again.

02:53:27.000 Be sure to join us.

02:53:28.000 A bunch of news, and you can listen via InfoWorks.com.

02:53:32.000 Or hopefully stations out there that are picking up this show will pick it up.

02:53:35.000 Or if you can't carry it live, re-air the new show I'm doing.

02:53:38.000 A lot of new stations turning it on.

02:53:39.000 I want to thank them.

02:53:41.000 And please get Aaron Russo's new film, American Freedom from Fascism, available.

02:53:46.000 Showing the Federal Reserve.

02:53:47.000 Showing who these scoundrels are.

02:53:48.000 There's a reason they ran Joseph Siglitz out of there, because he wouldn't play ball with them.

02:53:53.000 He's a globalist, but he doesn't believe in hurting all the people.

02:53:56.000 Well, you're gone, buddy.

02:53:57.000 Nobel Prize winner.

02:53:59.000 And this is how it works.

02:54:00.000 You know, he's got a soul, he's got a conscience.

02:54:02.000 I don't think he's just playing good cop.

02:54:03.000 He is a good cop.

02:54:04.000 But he doesn't understand the full paradigm.

02:54:07.000 And he understands his limited spectrum of analysis, which is understandable.

02:54:10.000 You know, he can go to higher levels than any of us when he studies one small sliver.

02:54:14.000 I study the full spectrum, and I mainly go to history because humans tend to do the same things over and over again, so I can see a condensed version of what's happening today in any aspect I wish.

02:54:23.000 That's what I've done.

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02:54:39.000 Ron in Georgia, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:54:42.000 Alex, I just had a comment about the gentleman that called in earlier.

02:54:46.000 If he doesn't believe anything that's going on and he believes that everything is just fine, why is he listening to your show?

02:54:53.000 And why is he calling in?

02:54:56.000 I think it's our own fears They keep us from realizing the truth.

02:55:00.000 We don't want to see the truth.

02:55:02.000 I wrote a quick caption, if I could read it for you.

02:55:05.000 Sure, go ahead.

02:55:07.000 The chains of our captivity are not bound so tight as to deprive the mind of free thought.

02:55:12.000 They lay rather on the foundation of the ever-shifting sands of lies and iniquity, shielded from the light of truth by the shadow of our own fears.

02:55:22.000 Well, I mean, I just had a 45-minute discussion with a Nobel Prize winner, former head of economics at the World Bank, and he agreed with everything I said.

02:55:30.000 And I said neo-mercantilism.

02:55:32.000 He didn't write that in his book.

02:55:33.000 I studied history.

02:55:34.000 It's mercantilism.

02:55:35.000 Globalism's mercantilism.

02:55:37.000 And I'm not tooting my horn, folks.

02:55:38.000 I know what I'm talking about.

02:55:40.000 Thank you for the call, Ron.

02:55:41.000 Tom in California.

02:55:42.000 Sorry about Margaret and Eric and others.

02:55:43.000 Tom, go ahead.

02:55:44.000 Take us out.

02:55:47.000 I was wondering if you could give somebody some advice on starting a newsletter that basically copies all the headlines of Prison Planet from my local area here.

02:55:56.000 For people that don't read the internet, maybe would pick up the newsletter instead, read the same headlines.

02:56:01.000 Do you have any advice?

02:56:02.000 I'd take the articles we write every week, they're the best, and I'd take four or five of those every week or every month or ten, whatever, and do it that way.

02:56:10.000 And to get freedom to fascism in my local theater, we'll investigate it, don't we?

02:56:14.000 Call Aaron Russo.

02:56:16.000 I'm out of time.

02:56:17.000 Vaya con Dios.

02:56:18.000 Have a good, safe weekend.

02:56:19.000 Ask God for guidance.

02:56:20.000 Love your family.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all.

02:56:22.000 See you Sunday on the radio.

Alex Jones Show - October 27, 2006

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