Alex Jones Show - 20061124_Fri_Alex

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00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 They'll be taking a lot of calls in this hour, at least I'll attempt it.

00:00:27.000 A ton of news I haven't even gotten to yet.

00:00:31.000 Bush was in Vietnam and said, you know what I learned from Vietnam?

00:00:33.000 Not to quit.

00:00:35.000 Talk about spin.

00:00:36.000 He said, you guys didn't quit.

00:00:37.000 You won.

00:00:39.000 We're not going to quit in Iraq.

00:00:40.000 And the Democrats agreed.

00:00:41.000 20,000 more troops on their way.

00:00:46.000 You vote in the Democrats to get out of the war. 0.52

00:00:47.000 And they say, you know what?

00:00:49.000 We're going to get out of the war. 0.96

00:00:50.000 But first, we're going to increase the troops.

00:00:53.000 Oh, you don't want to have all the toll roads, all the roads handed over to foreign companies.

00:00:57.000 Well, we'll just do it.

00:01:00.000 Oh, you don't like getting tasered over and over again when you can't even get up off the ground.

00:01:03.000 How about we just taser you some more? 1.00

00:01:07.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Crispin in New Orleans.

00:01:11.000 You're on the air.

00:01:12.000 Welcome.

00:01:13.000 Thank you.

00:01:13.000 Hey, Alex.

00:01:14.000 How you doing?

00:01:14.000 Pretty good, sir.

00:01:16.000 Hey, I wanted to call and thank you and thank your staff.

00:01:19.000 You played an important role in helping me wake up.

00:01:23.000 I first started looking into FEMA's actions after the hurricane.

00:01:26.000 I'm from New Orleans here.

00:01:28.000 And, uh, doing so, I came across your road to tyranny.

00:01:32.000 And, uh, you just... I can't believe how much you've helped me wake up.

00:01:37.000 And I've been trying to speak the truth to people that I know here in town.

00:01:41.000 And the main thing I'm confronted with is their inability to believe that the government is competent enough to do these kind of things.

00:01:49.000 Well, that's one of the most common things we hear.

00:01:52.000 The bureaucracy is designed to be kind of a jello-like quicksand at the lower levels.

00:01:59.000 But I assure you, the payoffs and the money deliveries are carried out with total precision.

00:02:05.000 And there is a lot of incompetence in New Orleans.

00:02:07.000 I'm not knocking the people there, but it is known as the real Sin City.

00:02:12.000 It's been a pirate town, really the oldest city in the country, and so what do you expect?

00:02:20.000 So there is a lot of local incompetence, but I assure you there's not incompetence on the CPS's grabbing people's kids that's scientifically executed.

00:02:29.000 There's not incompetence when they put the fluoride in your water.

00:02:33.000 There's not incompetence when they have people totally poor, so they've got to join the military to serve the empire.

00:02:39.000 All of this, you know, the bureaucracy... See, the government's also meant to fall apart, so then they can say, oh, let us privatize it, see?

00:02:49.000 There's a lot of different reasons for all of this.

00:02:51.000 It's very sophisticated.

00:02:53.000 Well, I just want to let you know also what a great tool TerrorStorm has been And I appreciate very much that you allow us to copy and distribute your movie.

00:03:02.000 I don't allow you to.

00:03:03.000 I want you to.

00:03:05.000 I ask you to.

00:03:06.000 Well, I certainly have been.

00:03:08.000 Unfortunately enough, I work at a coffee shop, which is a cultural hub.

00:03:12.000 We have district attorneys, lawyers, police officers, firemen, businessmen, service industry workers.

00:03:19.000 Everybody walks in this coffee shop, and my boss allows me a space on the counter where I have been burning your movie and a few others.

00:03:27.000 And just leaving them with a note that says, free movie, DVD, five stars.

00:03:31.000 And I cannot seem to burn them fast enough, regardless of the packaging.

00:03:36.000 Are the police officers picking them up?

00:03:39.000 Yes, sir.

00:03:40.000 That's the psychology.

00:03:42.000 It's important.

00:03:43.000 It's important.

00:03:43.000 Take it.

00:03:44.000 They'll just go, hey, free film.

00:03:44.000 They won't take it.

00:03:47.000 Or just leave them out.

00:03:48.000 That's the way to do it.

00:03:49.000 And it's regardless of the packaging.

00:03:51.000 I mean, I'm putting handwritten on there, Alex Jones's Terror Storm and History of Government-sponsored terrorists are like, oh wow, what's this?

00:03:58.000 And they grab it.

00:03:59.000 Uh, just the other day I gave a copy of your movie to the city attorney here in New Orleans.

00:04:03.000 Good job.

00:04:04.000 Well, what you ought to do...

00:04:06.000 Uh, and I tell you, that's who really wakes up to my films, is people who are in power positions, because they've actually been on the inside, not normally high enough to be doing something really evil, but then everything makes sense.

00:04:17.000 How many special forces commanders, how many generals, how many congressmen and women have I talked to privately, or heads of hospitals, or you name it, who say, nothing made sense till I saw your films.

00:04:29.000 Now, what I did in Korea, what I did in Nam, what I did in South, you know, what I did in the U.S., what I did in Latin America, Now I understand.

00:04:38.000 Because it's the truth.

00:04:40.000 And the truth shines through the darkness every time.

00:04:43.000 And hey, I don't care if you guys, if you start getting, if you have the money, give them out free.

00:04:46.000 If you don't, sell them for a dollar.

00:04:49.000 Get your money back.

00:04:51.000 Alright, we'll be right back.

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00:08:38.000 Well, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:08:41.000 I am glad that you have joined us.

00:08:42.000 We're scheduled to have Michael Kaufman there, but the network's getting us contact info right now.

00:08:48.000 And then we've got a city council member, actually a mayor pro tem, coming on from one of these cities and saying, look, we're not going to have illegal aliens here. 0.66

00:08:59.000 Illegal is in the word.

00:09:03.000 And it's causing the anti-American forces to go absolutely ape and assail them.

00:09:08.000 So he's going to be joining us briefly in the third hour today.

00:09:16.000 But before we go to Dr. Michael Kaufman, who I hope is still there when we try to contact him, let's go ahead and talk to Pat in Rhode Island.

00:09:26.000 Pat, you're on the air.

00:09:27.000 Go ahead.

00:09:28.000 I'm from Rhode Island.

00:09:29.000 I want to let you know first, Alex, I'm a graduate of the University of Notre Dame.

00:09:32.000 I've got an electrical engineering degree from there.

00:09:34.000 I'm also a graduate of St.

00:09:36.000 Anselm College.

00:09:37.000 New Hampshire with a liberal arts degree.

00:09:39.000 So both sides of my brain work very well.

00:09:42.000 First of all, thank you for the investment you've made in all matters.

00:09:45.000 And I know it goes back before 9-11.

00:09:48.000 Amazing.

00:09:49.000 I put you on the front lines.

00:09:50.000 You are the chief.

00:09:51.000 You are the general of this movement.

00:09:54.000 You know, everybody's been saying that.

00:09:56.000 Now it's getting really bad all over the country. 0.83

00:09:59.000 All professors call up and call me the commander, and it really needs to stop, folks, because it's a good way to get me killed real fast.

00:10:06.000 I am not the general, I am not the leader, I am just, I am one person in the fight.

00:10:10.000 You, all of you out there are your own leaders in this fight, but thank you sir.

00:10:16.000 Okay, let me come to the front lines right now with you.

00:10:18.000 Nothing is going to change, Alex, unless the people who know what the truth is realize the fact that the truth being pointed out alone is not going to change anything When is this movement going to become a movement of action and not just a movement of preaching to the choir?

00:10:34.000 I'm asking you, Alex.

00:10:35.000 We need this rocket, okay, to move from the first stage to the second stage.

00:10:41.000 Now, I've talked to Eric Humschmid, who you probably know was probably the first American citizen to put together, other than yourself, to put together a collection of pertinent relevance on video.

00:10:54.000 Yeah, actually his first film cited my film and I don't care who's the first to do something but then there's claims.

00:11:00.000 Okay, I'm just saying that there are people who have been talking about this for years, okay, and I want to know, and I talked to him personally on the phone, I want to know when the change is going to be to civil disobedience and to real action because how else, how else, and again, remember I'm a graduate of the University of Notre Dame, I'm not this Guy that's looking to, like, go into battle on any issue.

00:11:21.000 How else are things going to change, Alex?

00:11:23.000 I do not believe that if the American people, just by being informed of the truth...

00:11:27.000 I do not believe that is going to organically, somehow, just change the direction of things.

00:11:33.000 So, I want to ask you, are you willing to die?

00:11:35.000 Are you willing to go to jail?

00:11:36.000 Are you willing... Well, I've been to jail several times over this stuff, so... And I've been physically attacked, and I've gone through a lot of things I don't talk about on air because I don't do the enemy's job for them, intimidating people.

00:11:48.000 Some of this stuff would scare people, but people can probably imagine.

00:11:52.000 Number one, A lot of the folks calling for some violent clash or civil disobedience, they're not the people out there doing it.

00:11:59.000 They're telling us to do it.

00:12:00.000 Every day, and I'm about to go to Dr. Munkle-Kaufman, but your question's important.

00:12:03.000 Let me just go over it with you.

00:12:05.000 We are not done in the education phase.

00:12:08.000 For a full decade, and that was with serious folks that would go to war quick, it took a decade plus and committees of correspondence to get the colonies mad enough to go to war with the British.

00:12:23.000 Okay.

00:12:24.000 And let them pull a couple more Waco's.

00:12:26.000 Let them keep going down this line.

00:12:28.000 Believe me, our strength is only going to continue to increase.

00:12:31.000 That's why they're trying to pump in as many illegals as they can and give them special deals on buying houses. 1.00

00:12:37.000 The big banks were in the AP two days ago.

00:12:39.000 I saw the article.

00:12:40.000 I heard Jack McClam talking about it.

00:12:41.000 I went and pulled it up.

00:12:43.000 They're, quote, trying to root them here.

00:12:46.000 To, quote, stop the move to kick them out. 0.92

00:12:48.000 I mean, they're doing everything they can to kill this country.

00:12:50.000 Handing over the infrastructure, grabbing all the land, you know, putting us in... and you're about to hear about this from a real expert.

00:12:57.000 So, we need to continue.

00:12:59.000 The general public is not informed.

00:13:01.000 The general public does not know the truth yet.

00:13:03.000 They're starting to wake up.

00:13:05.000 The government goes out and carries out terror attacks at OKC and other places just to create the illusion that we're violent.

00:13:14.000 So they can try to use force to suppress us.

00:13:17.000 It's not going to do anything to go out and burn down some buildings, have shootouts with dumbed down police in their little Darth Vader outfits.

00:13:28.000 That doesn't hurt the New World Order.

00:13:30.000 I'm going to expose David Rockefeller.

00:13:31.000 I'm making a film about the Bilderberg.

00:13:34.000 I'm going at the heart of the pyramid here, the eye of the capstone.

00:13:39.000 And so it's a process, but I do go out and demonstrate.

00:13:42.000 I tell people Stand up in restaurants and start yelling that 9-11 is an inside job.

00:13:48.000 I tell people to make copies of my films.

00:13:50.000 I tell you not to take the vaccinations for your children.

00:13:53.000 Take them out of public school.

00:13:54.000 I heard a talk show host this week, last week, and say that the greatest example of liberty and people coming out of Babylon Coming out of Rome are the homeschoolers.

00:13:54.000 You know what?

00:14:04.000 It was a few hundred thousand just a couple years ago.

00:14:07.000 Now it's over two and a half million.

00:14:08.000 There's a huge exodus.

00:14:10.000 They're trying to ban it now in Illinois and California.

00:14:13.000 Parents should say no!

00:14:15.000 Okay?

00:14:16.000 They're trying all this stuff.

00:14:18.000 Stop spending your money on the establishment.

00:14:21.000 Don't support them.

00:14:23.000 Start your own organizations.

00:14:25.000 I mean, what would you like us to do?

00:14:29.000 What would you like me to do?

00:14:29.000 Yes, you're still there.

00:14:30.000 Okay, Mike, I'm going to just make a prediction right now.

00:14:32.000 I mean, I appreciate you giving some historical context to the matter and going back to the revolutionary days, but the bottom line is that the kind of weaponry and the kind of capabilities that our government has right now to reap destruction, and I'm not talking about planned destruction, I'm talking about kind of like, okay, the government getting together with some of their people and saying, you know, in the next three days we need to make something happen.

00:14:55.000 My point is this, if we don't make something happen, if we don't do something unexpected as a movement, I mean, if we don't have the cajongas to do what they have the cajongas to do... Well, I think at this point, I mean, people parachuting into football stadiums with huge banners out behind them.

00:15:10.000 I'm not saying do that.

00:15:12.000 You know, spray painting government buildings.

00:15:13.000 I mean, it is an emergency.

00:15:16.000 situation and people need to non-violently stand up however they can, but I'm not saying do that.

00:15:22.000 I'm using that as an example.

00:15:23.000 Somebody will parachute in naked just for attention, but they won't parachute in for their country.

00:15:28.000 I tell you, when you get the silver bullet, you call up and you tell me what it is.

00:15:34.000 I know this.

00:15:35.000 I, like a woodpecker, have stayed focused on fighting the New World Order.

00:15:39.000 When I learned about this 15 years ago, when I got on air 12 years ago, I had a mission to fight the New World Order. 0.78

00:15:45.000 And to not just sit around and strategize and talk about big grand plans, just to educate people, take action, tell people to stand up, do the right thing.

00:15:53.000 I have enough confidence in the native intelligence of the people to form a unified resistance.

00:15:59.000 Listen, they were putting thumb scanners in to get school lunches and face scanners eight years ago.

00:16:05.000 Now, in California, in London, You know, in Sacramento, in London, parents are saying no, and they're having to remove the thumb scanners.

00:16:13.000 People are saying no to RFID chips around the kids' necks.

00:16:16.000 You know, the people now are getting mad.

00:16:18.000 I've got to let you go.

00:16:19.000 We somehow got our wires crossed, and my producer was out.

00:16:24.000 We didn't get the number to the network.

00:16:25.000 I apologize that Dr. Kaufman has been holding for about five minutes, but I'm really honored to have him with us.

00:16:32.000 I haven't interviewed him in years.

00:16:34.000 We've only got about 45 minutes with him now, but I've got to get him up for two hours in the future.

00:16:39.000 I am carrying his new video.

00:16:41.000 It's absolutely amazing and powerful and something Christians need to have, but just Americans, period, need to have. 0.98

00:16:50.000 His bio is too lengthy to ever even go through.

00:16:53.000 I want him in a nutshell to basically tell you who he is.

00:16:57.000 He of course put the maps together with the government documents and information he had of where over 90% of the country will be restricted, over half of it total restriction of human use.

00:17:07.000 The corridors he put together in the mid-90s are now exactly where they're announcing their corridors now, where they're saying they're going to shut off human use.

00:17:17.000 Everything he's saying is happening.

00:17:19.000 He has done an incredible job on the North American Union, on all of it.

00:17:24.000 And Dr. Michael Kaufman, a professor, thank you for coming on.

00:17:27.000 Tell us about yourself, who you are, the work you've done, in a nutshell.

00:17:34.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

00:17:35.000 It is a pleasure to be back on with you.

00:17:37.000 It has been about a year and a half, two years, I think, since we talked to each other.

00:17:41.000 But nonetheless, I have a PhD in Ecosystems Analysis, actually in Environmental Sciences.

00:17:47.000 But yet, when I began to see, I was leading a multi-million dollar research effort back in the 1980s, and I began to realize that the environmental leadership and the Many of our government agencies were not interested in protecting the environment.

00:18:01.000 They were interested in gaining control, which pricked my interest into finding out exactly why.

00:18:06.000 And I entered this whole battle scene in the late 1980s investigating what in the world was going on with the environmental movement.

00:18:13.000 Well, it doesn't take long before you start connecting the dots, and it goes right back up to the global agenda, the Rockefellers, the Trilateral Commissions, and so forth.

00:18:21.000 Population reduction.

00:18:24.000 What is the grand plan?

00:18:25.000 People get confused here.

00:18:27.000 Real environmentalism, conservation, is important and is real.

00:18:31.000 The people running it, though, are the ones dumping the chemicals in the ocean, making the genetically engineered crops.

00:18:37.000 They're the ones actually hurting the earth.

00:18:39.000 Well, their basic goal is to do two things.

00:18:41.000 One is to create a world religion, which they're doing through environmentalism.

00:18:43.000 In a nutshell then, sir, go through what you discovered and what their master plan is, and then let's reverse engineer it.

00:18:50.000 Instead of going through all the evidence, which we've done in the past, we'll do again today, let's reverse engineer it.

00:18:55.000 Let's start from the top and go down.

00:18:56.000 Well, their basic goal is to do two things.

00:18:59.000 One is to create a world religion, which they're doing through environmentalism.

00:19:04.000 It's basically the idea that the earth is gone.

00:19:07.000 You've heard of the so-called Gaia hypothesis and so forth.

00:19:11.000 And this is official UN treaties, laws, they say this.

00:19:15.000 Yes.

00:19:15.000 In fact, we came within just a few hours in 2002 of the World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg of having a New Earth Ethic, which we'll let them call it, but it's really a New Earth Religion instilled as a guiding ethic for the United Nations for every single person on planet Earth.

00:19:37.000 Christian, non-Christian, you name it, would have to ascribe to if they wanted to be sanctioned by the government.

00:19:43.000 We came within a couple hours of having that thing actually accepted by the United Nations, and we finally got the State Department to pull the language out of the consensus document.

00:19:52.000 Well, stay there.

00:19:52.000 Stay there.

00:19:53.000 We've got a break, Doctor.

00:19:54.000 When we come back, we'll get right to it.

00:19:56.000 Stay with us.

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00:24:27.000 Welcome back.

00:24:35.000 Thank you.

00:24:36.000 Thank you.

00:24:37.000 Glad that you joined us.

00:24:38.000 Dr. Michael Kaufman will be with us in about five minutes in the next hour.

00:24:41.000 Then I've got a Dallas-Fort Worth Area Mayor coming on to talk about the illegal alien problem and what we're dealing with there, all part of the Global Plan. 1.00

00:24:50.000 Dr. Michael Kaufman, again, you've been studying this for decades now.

00:24:54.000 You've made quite a few films.

00:24:56.000 We're carrying your newest, which is just an amazing, World Events and Prophecy, because this really reaches out to Christians, which I count myself among, from a biblical perspective, but then showing the documents, and it does fit hand in glove.

00:25:09.000 The elite really do, at the end of the day, worship Lucifer.

00:25:13.000 And for atheists out there, they just can't get that.

00:25:16.000 That the elite do believe in God and the devil.

00:25:18.000 They just think the devil is God, but I'm kind of putting a cart before the horse.

00:25:22.000 How are they using the environmental movement?

00:25:24.000 What will life be like in America under this system?

00:25:26.000 Will they continue?

00:25:28.000 Well, you know, one of the things that really we were fighting for back in 2002 was to keep this from becoming the United Nations religion that would then be forced down on every person in every nation because right on its heels was a brand new treaty That what it was called, the Covenant on Environment and Development, that would have put this into legal teeth, that you would have been forced to, at the point of a gun, to adhere to these very principles of Pantheism, that the Earth is God.

00:25:55.000 And it's the very same stuff we see in Europe, where if a ten-year-old girl is in a study group with a bunch of foreigners who can't speak English, and she says, I want to be in a different group, they arrest her and put her in a jail cell, saying it was hateful.

00:26:08.000 Yes, absolutely, same thing.

00:26:10.000 If we said, and over the ad, we just heard that people can go to jail just by disagreeing and saying that homosexuality is wrong in Canada and England and so forth.

00:26:20.000 Well, that's exactly what it's going to be with this new covenant on environment and development.

00:26:24.000 If you want to have private property rights, if you want to have the freedom of making a choice of how you use your property, be it a house or your land or even money, money, Money is property too.

00:26:35.000 You're not going to be allowed to do that because everything is spelled out and everything is designed to protect Mother Earth, who they believe is God.

00:26:44.000 They believe that we've been basically destroying Mother Earth or God with all the modern conveniences and so forth.

00:26:51.000 We're not sustainable in their eyes and we would go back a hundred years in our technology If this ever got into actual principle and into effect.

00:26:59.000 And that's the key word there is sustainability.

00:27:02.000 That's their excuse to grab property to control populations. 0.98

00:27:05.000 And again, in their real actions, the very global corporations funding this, they're doing the opposite.

00:27:10.000 They're the ones that are really hurting the earth.

00:27:13.000 You know, that's the ironic thing about this.

00:27:13.000 Absolutely.

00:27:15.000 It's the major international or transnational corporations and the financial institutes, the major banks of the world and so forth, and I explain all this in the DVD, that are actually doing the damage.

00:27:27.000 They could care less about the environment. 0.94

00:27:30.000 And they could care less about homosexuals either. 0.96

00:27:33.000 They just make it all sound loving and liberal. 0.99

00:27:36.000 Oh, you're going to all be sweet to each other, or the men in black uniforms will come and arrest you.

00:27:41.000 Yeah, and that is very true.

00:27:43.000 And the only way they can gain control is to impose this religion, because religion is the one thing that will unite people.

00:27:49.000 And they're trying to impose this.

00:27:50.000 they have been now for 30 years or more, and trying to impose it so that everybody is in favor of protecting the environment no matter what the cost.

00:27:58.000 And boy, have they been successful because it's called the Greening of America, and I talk about it on the DVD. 0.87

00:28:03.000 They have changed us from an entrepreneurial viewpoint of reality to an environmental viewpoint here in this country.

00:28:12.000 Which then gets us to hand away our own sovereignty and control and start thinking and group thinking.

00:28:19.000 All the TV shows, all the children's shows, the propaganda is everywhere that humans are bad and the state's going to punish those bad humans and keep them in line, but that's really just other humans who are going to be having the control.

00:28:33.000 That's right.

00:28:34.000 Which brings up the second point, the second goal that they have, is that they want total control, they want to have a world government.

00:28:41.000 It's probably going to be administered through the United Nations, but the United Nations, as evil as it will be, will not be the people that are pulling the strings on it.

00:28:49.000 They will be the international financiers and so forth, the global elite.

00:28:55.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:28:58.000 I found out that Dutch Royal Shell 10 years ago, and BBC broke this, put out the peak oil fraud.

00:29:05.000 I mean, when you open up National Geographic that's total anti-human, when you open it up, the whole thing is financed by Dutch Shell.

00:29:13.000 They must have five ads. 0.87

00:29:15.000 It's sick!

00:29:17.000 It really is.

00:29:18.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:29:20.000 They call it the public-private partnerships.

00:29:22.000 I don't get that into this DVD.

00:29:23.000 I do in other DVDs that I've done.

00:29:25.000 But these public-private partnerships basically put industry, these international corporations, in charge of government.

00:29:34.000 I do discuss this.

00:29:35.000 You know, Carol Quigley, you've probably talked about him many times.

00:29:39.000 on your program in the past, he makes it very clear that it's going to be these international banking communities, this cartel, that controls everything that we do.

00:29:47.000 Stay there.

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00:35:12.000 We're going to go back to Dr. Michael Kaufman, and then we're going to go to Bion in Vietnam, who's from Vietnam, holding. 0.99

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00:37:00.000 We're going to be going to your calls here in a little while, but again, I hope you will call or I hope you will go to the website and get the World Events and Prophecy.

00:37:09.000 Dr. Michael Coffin, please continue with basically what the grand plan is.

00:37:15.000 This is all written out.

00:37:16.000 What will life be like if they're able to get this program in place?

00:37:21.000 Well, basically, it means a controlled society.

00:37:24.000 You're allowed to make certain decisions by yourself, but everything else is controlled.

00:37:28.000 You can only make those decisions within very narrowly defined limits as to what you can do and not do.

00:37:35.000 In fact, this is actually part of... Brzezinski basically said this 30 years ago, that there will become a time when we finally get to that point where we i.e. the global elite will control everything that everyone does.

00:37:50.000 And they call that interdependence, but in truth, they set it up with the balance of power where only they have control.

00:37:56.000 That's correct.

00:37:58.000 I think you've really got it nailed on the head there, Alex, because we have to understand that they're going to use a lot of pseudonyms to describe this as something wonderful.

00:38:07.000 In fact, the whole idea of this environmental lockstep that they're talking about is supposed to be a wonderful life to have this freedom of nature and so forth.

00:38:17.000 Well in fact it means abject poverty because we can't do anything to benefit mankind if it causes nature some sort of problem.

00:38:26.000 Well there's nothing that we can do that doesn't impact nature somewhat in a negative way.

00:38:31.000 But let's look at the microscopic view here locally in Austin.

00:38:38.000 Ninety-eight, they grabbed 15,000 acres in one land grab for a decade before.

00:38:42.000 They wouldn't let people build on their own property.

00:38:44.000 That drove down the value by 90 plus percent in most areas.

00:38:48.000 Then they made a deal to pay the people about five cents on the dollar for their property and swore that the huge, you know, multi-hundred million dollar buy in southwest Travis County in a key, beautiful area to build, very valuable real estate, that there'd be this huge park They took it.

00:39:08.000 There is no park being built.

00:39:10.000 It was then given to select Fortune 500 management companies.

00:39:14.000 Nature Conservancy Sierra Club are now building huge developments all over it.

00:39:19.000 They grabbed land in East Austin and built a five-star golf course, spa, and luxury retreat.

00:39:27.000 And so really, it's about stealing property.

00:39:31.000 It is.

00:39:32.000 In fact, if you look at the whole Smart Growth agenda, and I do have another DVD on Smart Growth that I'll be sending you so you can look at it, but the whole Smart Growth agenda is designed to take property away from the individual and put it into this never-never land that they can eventually use themselves.

00:39:49.000 In fact, the Wildlands Project, which was part of the Convention on Biological Diversity that we stopped back in 1994 from being ratified in the U.S.

00:39:56.000 Senate, That would set aside one half of the United States in the wilderness areas.

00:40:01.000 What's the purpose of this?

00:40:02.000 Well, it's supposed to be protecting biodiversity, but they don't care about biodiversity.

00:40:06.000 They want to lock that land up, one, as collateral on the national debt that you were just talking about.

00:40:12.000 And I had Joseph Stiklitz, Chief Economist, World Bank, Nobel Prize winner, on three weeks ago.

00:40:16.000 He said exactly what you just said.

00:40:18.000 Absolutely!

00:40:19.000 That is exactly what they're trying to do.

00:40:21.000 And once they have it, then they will start to develop that land through its resources and so forth.

00:40:26.000 The money will go in their pockets, not ours.

00:40:29.000 Well, I've got the video somewhere from 1998.

00:40:31.000 I need to find all these archived old TV shows and put them on the web.

00:40:36.000 But Mike Hanson has most of them.

00:40:38.000 I need him to dig those out of his storage before the three-quarter inch tapes fall apart.

00:40:41.000 But I didn't.

00:40:42.000 I mean, I knew it was a land grab, but I went to it.

00:40:45.000 There were thousands of people at the new Austin Convention Center at the time.

00:40:48.000 There were former Dallas Cowboys and Bank One Chairman and Bank of America Chairman and big Republicans and Michael Dell.

00:40:56.000 But this wasn't for the media.

00:40:58.000 This was for all the city managers of the whole country.

00:41:01.000 They just said, we're taking all the property, this is a great business operation, and I would go to press conferences and talk to them, and they'd say, yeah, we're taking the property.

00:41:09.000 And they'd laugh at me, doctor.

00:41:11.000 They just, because they know the PR on TV and radio is saying one thing, then they go right out in plain view and just say whatever they want, knowing the media is in on it and won't report it.

00:41:22.000 I know it.

00:41:23.000 And that's, of course, the fault of the liberal media.

00:41:26.000 And if you talk to some of these individual reporters, you'll find that they agree with it.

00:41:30.000 They think it's a great idea.

00:41:31.000 Because that's where they have been educated.

00:41:31.000 Why?

00:41:34.000 And that's why we should get our kids out of schools and teach them the facts of life at home and hopefully they will stick with them when they go through college because right now our colleges are nothing more than indoctrination camps.

00:41:46.000 Exactly.

00:41:47.000 You've been to a lot of these meetings.

00:41:49.000 You've studied their documents.

00:41:50.000 You've talked to them.

00:41:51.000 When you talk to the minions though, the cannon fodder that buys into it, are you able to ever deprogram them and show the environmentalists that it has nothing to do with the environment?

00:42:00.000 Yes, in fact, Alex, when I've given talks in the past, we've had some of these plants in the Sierra Club, or the International Union for the Conservation of Nature, which is an international environmental organization, very powerful, extremely powerful organization, there to discredit me, and if they let me have the time to develop it logically, I've seen them go into a state of shock as they realize what they're involved in.

00:42:23.000 Literally.

00:42:23.000 Exactly.

00:42:24.000 I've had people get up and apologize to the audience for their involvement in what they're doing.

00:42:29.000 And see, that's the key.

00:42:29.000 The truth is powerful.

00:42:31.000 If we're able to... Exactly.

00:42:33.000 I mean, look, all the liberals I know are buying guns.

00:42:36.000 They realize the environmental movements are fraud.

00:42:38.000 They still are environmentalists.

00:42:39.000 They're just really environmentalists.

00:42:41.000 I mean, none of us want to drink dirty water and air, folks.

00:42:44.000 But they don't... They've got to understand.

00:42:46.000 It is diabolical!

00:42:48.000 I mean, I know the ranchers and farmers that have their land stolen.

00:42:51.000 Then they build shopping malls on it.

00:42:53.000 It has nothing to do with the environment!

00:42:56.000 It has nothing to do with the environment.

00:42:57.000 Has nothing to do with the quality of life, even though they'll tell you that.

00:43:01.000 It's all a sham, it's all a fraud, in order to take your land. 0.82

00:43:05.000 And of course, the Kello decision a year and a half ago, back in June of 2005, has just opened the doors to the floodgates of communities, these local governments, basically condemning land for ten cents on the dollar, and taking it for development of another private enterprise.

00:43:21.000 We're going to go to Vietnam and take a call here in a moment, but I want to tell a story about local environmentalists with Save Our Springs.

00:43:27.000 Back in the early nineties when they were going to steal all this property, these guys were on TV, radio, they were worshipped, they were heroes, and then now you want to see them, they've grabbed all the land.

00:43:36.000 They'll go protest now when they build a shopping mall or luxury million dollar homes on it, but now the news won't cover them and now they get it.

00:43:44.000 See, they were used.

00:43:45.000 They also used the locals to give it the illusion that it's grassroots.

00:43:50.000 Yes.

00:43:50.000 In fact, that is the primary thing right there is that the whole environmental movement is being used.

00:43:55.000 Once they have what they want, the local environmental leaders and so forth, they'll be out in their ears.

00:44:01.000 They can care less about the environment.

00:44:03.000 Well, you know, the biggest landowner in the United States is the Sierra Club.

00:44:07.000 Yes.

00:44:08.000 Nature Conservancy.

00:44:09.000 Excuse me, I always get the two mixed up.

00:44:10.000 That's right.

00:44:11.000 Nature Conservancy, Sierra Club.

00:44:12.000 Excuse me.

00:44:13.000 That's the order, correct?

00:44:15.000 Yes.

00:44:16.000 So the Nature Conservancy, I mean, they're a mafia.

00:44:20.000 It's just incredible.

00:44:23.000 It really is.

00:44:24.000 They started out on a good premise.

00:44:26.000 If you want it, you should buy it, but at the same time now they've got their power and they're using the government basically as, like you say, a mafia, and a poor landowner whose land they want.

00:44:36.000 They don't have a chance.

00:44:38.000 So how it works is, by the way, all the big real estate councils of the country are for it, and it's not because they love the birdies or the snails or the worms or the spiders or the cave bugs that have caused the building to stop around here in many areas.

00:44:52.000 It lays off whole corridors and then instantly jacks up their prices, and then everybody forgets, on average, after five years, then they end up going in and sweetheart deals with the government The county-city government that now controls it, and then they're giving the land for almost nothing, then the restrictions are taken off!

00:45:09.000 I mean, they ought to all be arrested!

00:45:11.000 They really ought to, because it is extortion.

00:45:14.000 It's about every crime in the book, except it's the government that can get away with it.

00:45:20.000 Absolutely.

00:45:20.000 Is our caller from Vietnam still there?

00:45:23.000 Beyond, thank you for holding.

00:45:24.000 I appreciate your call from all the way from Vietnam.

00:45:27.000 Bush is there.

00:45:28.000 I guess, or was there.

00:45:29.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:45:33.000 Hello, caller?

00:45:38.000 Sounds like his phone may have broke.

00:45:39.000 Put him back on hold.

00:45:40.000 I've never gotten a call from Vietnam.

00:45:41.000 I want to see if he's able to be there in a moment, or he might have stepped away from his computer.

00:45:46.000 And we're going to go back to your calls in a few minutes, folks, but I do want to talk to Bjorn.

00:45:49.000 Talk to him, John, until he gets back on the line.

00:45:52.000 I've gotten a call from Antarctica McMurtle Air Station, weather station.

00:45:56.000 I've gotten calls from Japan and everywhere else, but I haven't got one from Vietnam yet.

00:46:02.000 Dr. Colvin, let's just briefly, because I know we're running low on time, I want to take some calls.

00:46:06.000 What are the different power blocks, according to your research, inside this New World Order?

00:46:13.000 Well, the first one is the Anglo-American faction that was described by Carol Quigley in his 1966 book, The Tragedy and Hope.

00:46:21.000 That is the all-powerful entity made up basically of the financial institutions of the United States and Great Britain.

00:46:28.000 Anglo-American.

00:46:30.000 The Anglo-American.

00:46:31.000 Uh, they have the greatest amount of power.

00:46:33.000 They're involved in every aspect of our lives and you don't even know it.

00:46:36.000 They basically control the political process, the judicial process, the educational process here in this country.

00:46:42.000 And that's why we're in the problems that we are right now.

00:46:44.000 Then you have the socialist European faction.

00:46:47.000 Which is vying for power with the Anglo-American faction.

00:46:51.000 It's led by France and Germany. 0.65

00:46:52.000 Ever wonder why France and Germany never seem to support us on these international ventures that England always is there?

00:46:58.000 Well, that's why.

00:47:00.000 And I explain that in the DVD.

00:47:01.000 And going on, you have the U.S.S.R., the former U.S.S.R., the Soviet Union, the Soviet Bloc, I shouldn't say the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation.

00:47:10.000 And by the way, they put the hammers and sickles back on and now call themselves that again, and the general public doesn't even know it.

00:47:16.000 Yeah, nothing's really changed.

00:47:18.000 They're going back to what they had before, but they're still trying to gain power so that they have a niche in this, if not come out of the dominant partner.

00:47:27.000 And so is China. 0.89

00:47:28.000 China is another major one.

00:47:29.000 If you wonder why all these things, and they're all the time, you never see it in the local newspaper, the evening news or anything, there's all these tensions going on underneath the scenes.

00:47:38.000 They're trying to undercut us, or us them, at every step of the way.

00:47:43.000 And it's A tension that will never go away.

00:47:47.000 We're going to have a world government sooner or later, as far as they're concerned, and they want to be on top.

00:47:51.000 And finally, the Arab League itself, or the radical Islamists, are another one. 0.71

00:47:58.000 They're being used by the Muslims in general, or the Arabs in general, as a front.

00:48:04.000 They're being funded by this, as you well know.

00:48:06.000 They're being funded by the Saudi families and the rich, oil-rich Arab nations.

00:48:11.000 In order to destabilize the West and create a niche for themselves.

00:48:17.000 They want to dominate the world just as much as the Anglo-American factor. 0.95

00:48:21.000 But the Anglo-Americans helped set up a lot of those countries in the 1915 to 1925.

00:48:25.000 And so from my research, there's a major connection.

00:48:30.000 Also, they're involved in the secret societies.

00:48:33.000 Uh, and the Knights Templar, so I see a big connection.

00:48:36.000 I see the Anglo-American, the European faction, and the Arab faction, even though it doesn't look like that on the surface, a lot of undercurrent connections.

00:48:43.000 Yes, there are.

00:48:44.000 In fact, obviously, we set the whole thing up, the CIA set up Al-Qaeda, and all the rest.

00:48:49.000 The tensions that we're facing right now, the terrorisms that we are facing right now, were created by the CIA, as you have talked about on your program.

00:48:58.000 Once you begin to understand this whole process, it all starts to make sense as to why all these very strange things happen.

00:49:06.000 How long do you think they'll start?

00:49:07.000 Because I know the North American Union, they're already operating under SPP.

00:49:12.000 They announced two weeks ago that the Asian Union had been in effect for a decade, but they publicly announced it.

00:49:16.000 That was in Reuters.

00:49:18.000 And now, through the North American Union, they're already making treaties with the EU, so they're really already connecting to each other, and we're already really going into a trilateral world government.

00:49:28.000 Absolutely.

00:49:29.000 There's no question that they're There's no intention of them failing in this.

00:49:33.000 This has been one of the goals of the Trilateral Commission right from its inception in 1973, is to create a North American Union, as well as others.

00:49:43.000 They've wanted to divide this whole world up into economic units since the 1970s, early 1970s.

00:49:50.000 So has the Club of Rome.

00:49:52.000 They even published a map back in 1973 showing ten financial kingdoms.

00:49:58.000 And that's what the Trilateral Commission is also doing.

00:50:01.000 I'll explain all this in the DVD, showing how they have actually intended to do this for over 30 years now.

00:50:11.000 This is nothing new.

00:50:13.000 They've been planning this for a long time.

00:50:15.000 For years, if you even mention the Club of Rome or the Trilateral Commission or something, people will look at you like you're from Mars, because everybody knew back in the 1970s and early 1980s that those organizations didn't.

00:50:27.000 It was all conspiracy stories.

00:50:28.000 Are you kidding?

00:50:29.000 I remember in 2000, the New York Times said I was a made-up Bilderberg.

00:50:37.000 I mean, they were still doing it then.

00:50:39.000 You're right, Doctor.

00:50:41.000 I mean, these people are incredible.

00:50:44.000 Remember when it didn't exist, folks?

00:50:46.000 The North American Union didn't exist? 0.69

00:50:49.000 Let's talk about their plans to kill us.

00:50:50.000 Let me get back, because that is the final plan of old Beelzebub, isn't it? 0.91

00:50:55.000 And we'll take your calls, I promise, on the other side.

00:50:58.000 Stay with us.

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00:53:59.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:54:18.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.

00:54:20.000 I'm going to keep Dr. Michael Coughlin with us a little bit into the next hour and we've got Mayor Pro Tem Coming on from Farmer's Branch up in Dallas, my old stomping grounds, where they're standing up against the open borders invasion.

00:54:38.000 But just in a nutshell, Doctor, Please break down for us, I mean obviously the population reduction agenda that Dr. Pianca has been calling for, the 80-90% they publicly state, can you give us your analysis of that and when in the global government plan they'll start to fully implement that?

00:54:57.000 I mean we know they're doing it in China now and doing it through abortion and other things, but how are they going to really get the huge population reduction they say they're going to implement?

00:55:05.000 Well, there's two things.

00:55:07.000 One of the things that we tumbled onto when we stopped the Biodiversity Treaty from being ratified 12, 13 years ago was the fact that they call for a human population of no more than 1 to 2 billion people in planet Earth.

00:55:20.000 That's a two-thirds to three-quarter reduction of the planetary population.

00:55:24.000 And they say ideally, ideally 500 million, though.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, ideally it's 500 million, but they wanted to get down immediately, within 50 years, to 1 to 2 billion.

00:55:33.000 And the way that they were planning on doing that, according to their own words, is that they wanted to make the environment so critically important that we could no longer use pesticides, we could no longer use herbicides and so forth in growing food, and food production would be cut by about one-half to two-thirds, and of course you know what happens if you don't have any food to eat, you normally will expire within a year.

00:55:57.000 Well, it's like how they banned DDT that really wasn't hurting the birds.

00:56:01.000 That kills tens of millions a year.

00:56:03.000 Yes.

00:56:04.000 Now, Dr. Coffman, let me comment on this because this is really important.

00:56:07.000 Let's be clear.

00:56:08.000 They're not talking about advances in food production or good genetic engineering or any of these things.

00:56:13.000 They're going from the point of view that man's the problem and must be gotten rid of, not even thinking about what developments there'll be in the next 50 years.

00:56:20.000 Plus, the very people running this don't care about the environment and are doing everything they can to really destroy it.

00:56:25.000 So what is the driving force behind this psychopathic behavior?

00:56:30.000 I think the desire for control, power.

00:56:32.000 You can say money, but they've already got all the money they could ever possibly use.

00:56:36.000 Money is only a means to an end, and that is power.

00:56:40.000 Well, that's right.

00:56:40.000 People always say they don't want to kill us.

00:56:45.000 They need the money.

00:56:46.000 Folks, they print the money.

00:56:48.000 The money is the way to control us.

00:56:49.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:56:51.000 And that's the key thing that we have to recognize.

00:56:52.000 They're not like you and I, who are really trying to get money just to survive.

00:56:57.000 They have more money than they could possibly use.

00:56:59.000 They do use their money to gain more and more power.

00:57:02.000 They want to be in control.

00:57:03.000 It's an age-old desire, even of Satan himself.

00:57:06.000 He wants to be in control.

00:57:07.000 And they want to have us at a subsistence level, because then we're totally desperate and under their control, which is feudalism.

00:57:15.000 So, hence, it's neo-feudalism.

00:57:17.000 In fact, in the Global Biodiversity Assessment that we gave the U.S.

00:57:21.000 Senate to stop the Biodiversity Treaty, we highlighted one of the sections which basically said they wanted to re-establish the old feudal system of the Dark Ages.

00:57:30.000 In fact, I used that sub-section of the Biodiversity Assessment at the end of Road to Tyranny, where it says, they talk about how wonderful human sacrifice is.

00:57:39.000 Yes.

00:57:41.000 Absolutely.

00:57:42.000 And of course, the whole concept of Mother Earth religion, or this pantheistic type of religion, almost always inevitably leads to human sacrifice.

00:57:52.000 Almost always.

00:57:52.000 It wouldn't be in this generation, of course, but it would certainly be in the next generation.

00:57:56.000 Dr. Kaufman, what are you doing in the next hour?

00:57:58.000 I've got a mayor coming on from Farmer's Branch, but I'm only going to have him about 10 minutes, and this is so important.

00:58:07.000 45 minutes just blew past us.

00:58:12.000 I know.

00:58:12.000 Unfortunately, we were about to take off to go to my son's house for Thanksgiving.

00:58:16.000 Well, do that.

00:58:17.000 Let's do five more minutes on the other side and blitz through Jeff, Bill, and Nick's calls at least, maybe even Brian, and then we'll have to get you back up soon, sir.

00:58:25.000 Absolutely.

00:58:26.000 I really enjoyed this.

00:58:27.000 Well, we're going to be back in 60 seconds.

00:58:29.000 Dr. Michael Kaufman, we've got the video, World Events and Prophecy, available at InfoWars.com right now.

00:58:36.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:41.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNLive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.

00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:53.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:01.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:04.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:59:17.000 We are now into our number three.

00:59:21.000 Let's go to Jeff in New York.

00:59:22.000 You're on the air with Dr. Michael Kaufman.

00:59:24.000 Thank you for holding here.

00:59:24.000 A real trooper.

00:59:25.000 What's on your mind?

00:59:26.000 Hey, Alex.

00:59:27.000 This is Jeff that sent you the 522 Mason footage.

00:59:30.000 That's right, the Masons let you in and let you videotape all their bizarreness up there, yes.

00:59:35.000 Yeah, um, I wanted to give a program announcement.

00:59:38.000 My public access show, Expose and Defeat Tyranny, is airing now in the town that I filmed that in.

00:59:44.000 And next week, I'll be showing that episode on the show in the town it was filmed in.

00:59:49.000 What was that?

00:59:49.000 Lodge 533?

00:59:50.000 522.

00:59:51.000 That's the one.

00:59:54.000 My hometown is Skinny Atlas, New York.

00:59:56.000 Well, good job.

00:59:57.000 What do you think of what Dr. Michael Kaufman is talking about?

00:59:59.000 It's the stuff you've been talking about, Alex, and I see the Masons must be involved in this too, in this world religion thing.

01:00:06.000 On my DVD, I spend about 15, well, about 10 minutes on Masonry.

01:00:12.000 Well, let me just tell listeners, anybody who has access TV shows in the country, if it's pretty good, I'll put it on PrisonPlanet.tv, where a lot of people can see it, and then folks grab it off that and put it on Google.

01:00:24.000 So send me your TV show, Jeff, and I'll not just, you know, with the video you shot, but I'll put your, because I know your work's really good, send me your access TV show, I'll put it on the web.

01:00:33.000 Great, I was going to suggest that.

01:00:34.000 I have an intro that I made up with black helicopter footage and local politicians from the state, Bill and Hillary Clinton that I met a couple years back.

01:00:43.000 I have some George Bush puppet parody TV commercials that I do.

01:00:48.000 I'd like to send you those too.

01:00:49.000 Maybe you'll get a kick out of it.

01:00:50.000 No, no, no.

01:00:51.000 Yeah, that's what we're trying to expand.

01:00:52.000 You know, help everybody get their information out.

01:00:55.000 Great.

01:00:56.000 I have a clip from a local news show the other day where Walmart had taken off their shelves a Skull & Bones t-shirt because it looked Just exactly like the Nazis do. 0.88

01:01:07.000 I was wondering if you want me to send you that, too.

01:01:09.000 I could play you the clip right now if you want.

01:01:11.000 Sure.

01:01:11.000 No, I mean, I know skull and bones are in style right now.

01:01:14.000 I was at Target and there were like five shirts.

01:01:16.000 I was trying to buy some shirts, t-shirts.

01:01:17.000 They all had skulls on them.

01:01:19.000 So I was having trouble.

01:01:21.000 I mean, there's just the worship of death is everywhere.

01:01:23.000 Aren't they inculcating this into us, Dr. Kaufman?

01:01:26.000 Yes, they absolutely are.

01:01:27.000 That's part of this whole religion.

01:01:31.000 One aspect of it is death.

01:01:35.000 We talk about that and some of the symbolism on the Ark of the Covenant, or Ark of the Hope, that was sent to the United Nations in Johannesburg in 2002.

01:01:45.000 Amazing.

01:01:46.000 Hey Jeff, it's good hearing from you, brother.

01:01:48.000 Good to hear from you, Alex.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, and call back another time.

01:01:50.000 I don't have all these guests on.

01:01:51.000 I'd like to talk to you some more.

01:01:53.000 Let's talk to Bill in Iowa.

01:01:54.000 Bill, thanks for holding.

01:01:55.000 Go ahead.

01:01:57.000 Hello, Alex.

01:01:58.000 Hi.

01:01:58.000 I owe you a deep apology.

01:02:01.000 Do you remember me?

01:02:03.000 No, I don't.

01:02:04.000 I was the one that called about election voting.

01:02:10.000 And what were you saying?

01:02:11.000 I don't remember.

01:02:12.000 That doesn't matter.

01:02:14.000 You disagreed with me.

01:02:15.000 So, anyway, hello to your guest.

01:02:18.000 Well, I mean, what did we disagree about?

01:02:19.000 So I turned out being right?

01:02:22.000 Yes, you did.

01:02:23.000 I challenged you on whether or not you voted or not.

01:02:27.000 Oh, I remember.

01:02:28.000 Yes, yes.

01:02:30.000 I owe you a deep Sincere apology for that.

01:02:34.000 Well, don't worry about it.

01:02:36.000 Do you have a quick question for our guest?

01:02:39.000 Not really for your guest, but I just got Terror Storm, well, one of the several copies that I had, and the Freedom to Fascism movie that just came in yesterday.

01:02:54.000 Wow, that blew me away.

01:03:01.000 I was hoping that I could talk to you without a guest being on, but anyway... Well, you know, I'll put you back on hold and I'll get to you a little bit later if you'll just keep holding.

01:03:08.000 We're out of time and I know we've got a load of phone lines.

01:03:10.000 We're going to get to everybody's calls.

01:03:11.000 Dr. Michael Coffin is going to head off now to start Thanksgiving to go be with his family and I'll be talking to him when he gets back from Thanksgiving.

01:03:18.000 I think we're going to have him come to town and we'll probably have him in studio here and interview him for the upcoming film.

01:03:26.000 Doctor, why don't you fire out your website too?

01:03:29.000 It's www.discerningtoday.org.

01:03:33.000 Discerningtoday.org.

01:03:35.000 That's D-I-S-C-E-R-N-I-N-G today.org.

01:03:39.000 We didn't even scratch the service.

01:03:41.000 I've got to have you back on in the near future.

01:03:43.000 God bless you, my friend, and be safe.

01:03:45.000 Oh, thank you.

01:03:46.000 Take care.

01:03:46.000 We'll come right back, ladies and gentlemen.

01:03:48.000 Stay with us.

01:03:49.000 Stay with us.

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01:07:01.000 I'm not liberal.

01:07:03.000 I'm not conservative.

01:07:04.000 I'm a constitutionalist.

01:07:05.000 I stand with the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, with the bedrock of what this country stands for.

01:07:12.000 I don't think that's a radical stance.

01:07:14.000 I know it's a popular stance.

01:07:16.000 But the politicians are bought and paid for by big multinational corporations and they're killing this country.

01:07:21.000 And the Associated Press reported two days ago that 50 plus major lending institutions give preferential treatment to illegal aliens and do not even ask for their social security number.

01:07:33.000 I already knew this from people working in banking and people working managing apartment complexes, but now we have the proof right out in the open.

01:07:41.000 Now that is discrimination, that is racketeering, because it's illegal.

01:07:44.000 It's organized.

01:07:47.000 Operation trying to allow an illegal practice to continue.

01:07:51.000 That is definition organized crime.

01:07:54.000 But they do it right out in the open.

01:07:56.000 And a large portion of the illegal aliens say that this country belongs to Mexico.

01:08:02.000 And the town of El Cenizo, the San Antonio Express News reported, does not allow anything but Spanish to be spoken in court proceedings.

01:08:09.000 It is Spanish only.

01:08:11.000 You get out of Mexico, it's Spanish only. 1.00

01:08:14.000 And, uh, you go down to Mexico and you're an illegal alien, they'll put you in a jail and extort all the money out of your family. 0.54

01:08:19.000 They're tough!

01:08:20.000 We got 30 million illegals here, not 14 million.

01:08:23.000 Those are the real numbers.

01:08:24.000 You look at the Census Department numbers, and I've had Congressman Tom Tancredo on, and Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul to tell you that.

01:08:31.000 This is the reality.

01:08:32.000 They've had a few towns that have tried to tell their police to arrest illegal aliens, to stop them.

01:08:37.000 I mean, I know police.

01:08:38.000 They're told to let them go, and they don't have insurance.

01:08:40.000 In most, uh, Vicente Fox was up here in Austin, Two years ago, he's not present anymore, but he was, and he gave, we have video of it, he gave an award to the police department for not following the law and making this a haven city.

01:08:54.000 Then he gave an award to Wells Fargo for issuing them debit cards with no ID that are then used to get homes.

01:09:01.000 Now, this is because the establishment wants to bust up this country, as Lou Dobbs has reported.

01:09:06.000 It's the North American Union, and it's make it or break it time. 0.87

01:09:10.000 Now, some little towns haven't done this right, and the ACLU swooped in on them, a bunch of crooks. 0.93

01:09:10.000 Okay? 0.93

01:09:15.000 Again, on one issue they'll be right, on ten others they'll be wrong.

01:09:19.000 And they'll try to sue and stop it, but it's called illegal alien for a reason. 0.97

01:09:24.000 These people are criminals.

01:09:27.000 And a lot of them are involved in other crimes.

01:09:30.000 And so we have got Mayor Deputy Pro Tem on with us, and we are really honored to have Tim O'Hare.

01:09:40.000 He's from Farmers Branch that's up in Dallas-Fort Worth area, where I come from.

01:09:44.000 And here's the Associated Press article, KXN also did a story here locally.

01:09:48.000 Immigration issues coming up in the legislature, and it talks about Farmers Branch is telling illegal immigrants they can't live in a Dallas suburb, they can still work there though.

01:09:57.000 City Council members and Farmer's Branch passed a controversial immigration resolution late Monday night.

01:10:02.000 Now they said that to make it sound discriminatory or hypocritical.

01:10:06.000 Actually, they passed resolutions saying you better not be illegal working there.

01:10:09.000 And that's federal law!

01:10:12.000 Okay, I mean, I know when I've had jobs at Walmart when I was in college or at a golf course, I had to show all my ID and all my stuff and the illegals didn't. 1.00

01:10:20.000 Let's go to him.

01:10:20.000 And I'm sick of it.

01:10:21.000 Enough of my setup of this.

01:10:24.000 And there's a lot of disinfo out there.

01:10:26.000 Here it is from the man himself, who is an attorney as well.

01:10:29.000 And again, we salute him, Tim O'Hare.

01:10:31.000 Thank you for coming on, Mayor Pro Tem.

01:10:34.000 Alex, thank you very much for having me.

01:10:35.000 It doesn't appear like you are fired up about this issue at all.

01:10:39.000 Well, I mean, I love America!

01:10:41.000 I'm one of those people who gets a tear in their eye at the football game when they say the national anthem, and I'm mad!

01:10:53.000 Well, you know what?

01:10:54.000 More power to you.

01:10:55.000 And it's guys like you all across the country that are helping councils and states to pass these measures when the federal government won't.

01:11:03.000 So we appreciate what you're doing.

01:11:05.000 Well, we appreciate you.

01:11:07.000 Now, you guys have got your act together.

01:11:09.000 I hope they don't beat you.

01:11:09.000 We were talking during the break.

01:11:10.000 You said you guys are going to stay the course.

01:11:13.000 Break down what the city council really did and why you did it.

01:11:17.000 We basically did three things.

01:11:19.000 We passed A resolution that's named English as the official language of the city.

01:11:24.000 And that part of it is largely symbolic, but it did two other things that I thought were pretty important.

01:11:29.000 One, it said the city's not going to print materials or post signage in any language other than English from this point forward.

01:11:36.000 I love it!

01:11:37.000 And the second thing that it did, which was my favorite part of the whole deal, if you seek employment with the City of Farmers Branch, you cannot be denied, now that we've passed that resolution, On the basis that the only language you speak is English.

01:11:52.000 And I think that is long overdue because we are seeing people all across the Metroplex.

01:11:57.000 Lose jobs because they're not bilingual. 0.99

01:11:59.000 And I don't think that's fair, and I don't think that's the way this country should be.

01:12:02.000 By the way, I have a lot of friends in California and in Dallas, but big cities is my point, master chefs.

01:12:10.000 And all the restaurants have been taken over by illegal aliens from Mexico, and they finally just tell you, get out of here! 1.00

01:12:17.000 We don't want you here if you don't speak Spanish. 1.00

01:12:19.000 And a lot of jobs out there tell people, no, if you're not bilingual, no job.

01:12:24.000 And that is discriminatory.

01:12:26.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:12:27.000 We passed two other measures.

01:12:29.000 One of them was to send our police officers to receive 287G training, which if your listeners are not aware what that is, it's basically the federal government offers state and local law enforcement officials the opportunity to be trained essentially to act as ICE agents and conduct themselves with regards to illegals as ICE agents.

01:12:50.000 And then the third thing we did was Agreed to fine landlords who rent to people who are living in apartment complexes.

01:12:50.000 So we authorized that.

01:12:59.000 That's the key.

01:13:00.000 That's a big one.

01:13:01.000 And we've had, like you said, they put in the paper that we didn't do the business deal.

01:13:07.000 We didn't fine businesses who employ them.

01:13:10.000 And what I would say about this, we haven't done it yet.

01:13:15.000 Our goal is to keep illegal aliens out of Farmer's Branch and to make Farmer's Branch unattractive to them. 1.00

01:13:20.000 Well, exactly.

01:13:21.000 You're taking four big bites right now.

01:13:24.000 I mean, you're eating like a hundred-ounce T-bone right now.

01:13:27.000 Yeah, well, we think the three things we did are going to help us achieve that goal.

01:13:31.000 But if they don't, then you better believe businesses are next.

01:13:34.000 And, you know, that's just... The three things we passed were the easiest things to do, that required the least amount of money from the city, And if we have to go after businesses, we'll do that next.

01:13:44.000 Now Farmer's Branch is a big town in the Metroplex.

01:13:47.000 How many people?

01:13:48.000 Yeah, we only have 28,000 people, but we are right on the border of Dallas.

01:13:52.000 I mean, we're known as a first-ring suburb.

01:13:56.000 Exactly, and I'm just outraged by the fact that That the illegals flaunt the law in 800 plus cities or sanctuary cities where the law isn't even enforced.

01:14:09.000 Now, the ACLU and others are already squealing, but they don't really have any recourse, do they?

01:14:17.000 What are they saying they're going to do?

01:14:19.000 Well, they're going to file lawsuits claiming that local law enforcement and municipalities are not allowed to enforce these measures.

01:14:28.000 And I'll tell you, the case law doesn't support what their arguments are, and what you hear from a lot of these groups, they can't argue the issues on the merits, they can't argue the fact that people are breaking the law, so they just resort to a bunch of name-calling.

01:14:42.000 The good news is, in our city, it seems like from some informal polling that has been done, And just from the emails, faxes, and phone calls that I've received, it seems like about 90% of the people in our city support these measures.

01:14:57.000 Now you just said 90.

01:14:58.000 I've never talked to you before we just got on air, and that's what I say every day.

01:15:01.000 But the Gallup poll last year said 90%.

01:15:04.000 The Gallup poll this year said 91%.

01:15:07.000 That's the number.

01:15:08.000 It's 90%.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, and you know, we have people arguing with us that we... But the way we did it was a bunch of volunteers put door hangers On pretty much every single door in the city of Farmer's Branch, it said, give us your responses.

01:15:21.000 And we've had over a thousand responses come back, and those responses have been 90% in favor of it.

01:15:29.000 Man, I wish we had a government in Austin like yours, where the city asks what we want.

01:15:34.000 And this wasn't officially done by the city, it was done by citizens.

01:15:37.000 I understand, but still, the city's listening to that.

01:15:40.000 Yeah, and the support has just been universal, and you would be shocked to come look at my email list of just the emails I've received from not just Farmer's Branch and Metroplex residents, but from people all over the country, and just the support is overwhelming.

01:15:54.000 Well, 67 to 70 percent of Hispanics, and again, that's almost all of the citizens, they also poll the quote immigrants, I mean, so if you look, if you break down those polls, the Gallup poll, almost 80 percent of Hispanics who are citizens, it's right at 80, When you take the illegals out of the equation, are against it too, so it's not some racial issue.

01:16:17.000 This is America, and we simply cannot take the hordes of people from Latin America or anywhere else for that matter, and we certainly can't have illegals running around all over the place. 1.00

01:16:28.000 You know, our proposals will benefit every single person that lives in Farmers Branch, Texas, regardless of what race, color, or creed they are, with the exception of people who aren't supposed to be here in the first place. 0.99

01:16:42.000 Exactly.

01:16:42.000 Now, do you have copies of the resolutions you passed?

01:16:45.000 I mean, are other cities looking at duplicating what you've done, or are they waiting to see what happens?

01:16:50.000 Well, you have a lot of wait and see, but I've been in touch with four different city officials from different cities in Texas, and I will tell you that the momentum is growing just almost on a daily basis.

01:17:06.000 Now, I have a few friends that are police officers, and sheriffs have complained on the air.

01:17:11.000 We've had them on from Tennessean places, where they'll pick up a whole car full of ten illegals. 0.99

01:17:16.000 They'll even find drugs on them, things like that.

01:17:18.000 They take them, and the feds won't even come get them or deport them.

01:17:20.000 They have to let them go.

01:17:23.000 It's illegals are involved in a lot higher incidents of wrecks because of the drinking, and because they've never really had any driver education. 0.98

01:17:31.000 So right there, how can a city like Austin catch and release, but then a city like Farmers Branch do its job?

01:17:37.000 I don't know how cities don't get sued for not doing their job.

01:17:41.000 You know, that's a good point.

01:17:42.000 Alex, I handle injury and death cases at my law firm, and I will tell you, not a day goes by that we don't get a phone call from someone who said they were in a wreck, and they're hurt, and they were hit by someone who was here illegally that doesn't have insurance. 0.98

01:17:59.000 Not a day goes by.

01:18:01.000 Well, I've been hit personally twice by illegals. 1.00

01:18:04.000 And it's just, it's not just a matter of benefiting our city and raising property values and helping the schools, but it's also a safety issue.

01:18:13.000 You know, there's so many good, positive reasons to do this, and it really is, it's protecting America.

01:18:22.000 It's just common sense!

01:18:23.000 We have to do this!

01:18:24.000 Well, you know, you're not allowed to have common sense in politics.

01:18:27.000 That's just not allowed.

01:18:29.000 I know you're very busy, sir, but I'd like to do five minutes with you on the other side, a quick break, and then five minutes on the other side.

01:18:35.000 Are you game to do that?

01:18:36.000 Okay, fantastic.

01:18:36.000 No problem.

01:18:37.000 We'll be right back with Tim O'Hare.

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01:23:18.000 Tim O'Hare is a native Texan, also of course a former UT football player, and he is an attorney up in Farmer's Branch also.

01:23:26.000 He is the Deputy Mayor Pro Tem, City Council Member, And they've simply said that they're going to do the opposite of what other cities do, saying they're going to be sanctuaries and violate federal and state law.

01:23:38.000 They're going to try to basically enforce the law.

01:23:40.000 You know, cities don't have to even pass laws like you've done.

01:23:43.000 When they pull an illegal over and they don't have insurance, I mean, they arrest citizens all the time for not having insurance, driving recklessly, not having their driver's license, but they don't do that to illegals.

01:23:53.000 How do these other cities get to the point of basically making the illegal aliens first class citizens and then citizens are second class? 0.83

01:24:02.000 I'll tell you what you have, Alex, is you have people in political office who so desperately want to hold on to their jobs.

01:24:09.000 When I say what I'm about to say, it's not that I don't love Farmers Branch or like what I'm doing, but if I get defeated in a re-election bid, I mean, really, who cares?

01:24:19.000 I mean, it's City Council and Farmers Branch, so I don't have to try to make sure that I'm politically correct.

01:24:25.000 I don't have to try to make sure that I don't upset one particular group or another.

01:24:29.000 Well, that's because you're not sucking off things. 0.95

01:24:30.000 A lot of people are sucking off the government trough, and so they do want to stay in, too, so you're not sucking anything. 0.97

01:24:36.000 That's always a key indicator that you're not telling a lie. 0.75

01:24:40.000 That's exactly right, and then my supporters are not big businesses who make their money off of illegals where they can get cheap labor, and so I don't have anyone that's backing me that I have to answer to, and I wouldn't answer to them if I did.

01:24:54.000 But I don't have that to worry about, which is not what you have in the U.S.

01:24:58.000 Senate or in the House of Representatives.

01:25:00.000 Exactly, and I've said it over and over again.

01:25:03.000 We get 60%, 55% turnout depending on the national election, but then we get on average in Texas 8% turnout.

01:25:10.000 The power is at the county and city and municipal level, and this is where the people can actually get into power and can actually turn the tide.

01:25:19.000 I think it's almost a distraction to focus too much on the federal level.

01:25:23.000 Well, what we've seen in farmers' branches, more people have spoken out and gotten involved as a result of this issue than we have ever seen in the history of our city.

01:25:36.000 And it has inspired people to get involved at the local government level.

01:25:42.000 And it's just a storm, really, that is sweeping across the country of people standing up and saying, enough is enough.

01:25:49.000 Mayor of one of the largest suburbs in our area, Plano, which you're familiar with, had a vote in the paper on Tuesday that said, I'm getting a lot of phone calls saying, why can't you be like Tim O'Hare?

01:26:01.000 And I say that because when one city passes these measures, other people say, hey, finally someone with the courage to do it.

01:26:07.000 Yeah, it shows change can really happen, and it's constitutional.

01:26:09.000 Yeah, and they go ask people, yeah, they go ask people, say, hey, we want you to do it, and that's how another city is going to do it.

01:26:15.000 Instead of the 867, last time I checked, that are sanctuary cities.

01:26:15.000 Well, exactly.

01:26:21.000 Now, this had to be triggered by something.

01:26:25.000 I mean, was this triggered by a massive influx of illegal aliens or was it just informed citizens there in Farmer's Branch?

01:26:32.000 You know, I would say really it was a combination of things.

01:26:35.000 It was a combination of just what's going on in the nation, a combination of that along with seeing what a couple of other cities were doing.

01:26:44.000 Yes, we've seen a large influx in our city.

01:26:47.000 We've seen property values on the decline or appreciating at a very low rate.

01:26:53.000 You know, we've seen the reputation of our school district suffer somewhat.

01:26:56.000 So, it was just a deal where a lot of things happened.

01:26:59.000 And we also had a two-year-old little girl killed in a drive-by shooting earlier this year.

01:27:04.000 And the two people that were arrested, the two suspects, were illegal.

01:27:08.000 And, you know, finally people have to say, enough is enough.

01:27:10.000 Well, that's it.

01:27:11.000 Statistically, exactly. 0.99

01:27:13.000 It's not that Mexicans in Mexico are all criminals. 0.98

01:27:16.000 It's that those that come here have a higher level of criminality already. 0.97

01:27:20.000 And so, there are already criminals to be here to begin with, and, I mean, what is it, almost half of LA jails are illegal aliens?

01:27:27.000 I mean... Yeah, I've seen, what is it, uh, 95% of the warrants in LA County for murder are for illegals, and 75% of the people on the most wanted list are illegals.

01:27:38.000 I mean, anybody that thinks that's not coming to their city is just blind.

01:27:43.000 In fact, Dallas had some Los Zetas murders last year where their military drug dealers were killing people. 0.73

01:27:49.000 It's a problem that you're seeing all across the country and I would tell people to take a look at the statistics in Los Angeles County and ask yourself, is this what you want our city or our county to look like?

01:28:01.000 And no one wants that.

01:28:02.000 That's why these measures are necessary. 0.97

01:28:04.000 They also tell blacks, whites, and Asians, you can't work here. 0.80

01:28:09.000 What this is really doing is it is suppressing all this huge influx of illegals.

01:28:14.000 It's suppressing wages for lower income Americans.

01:28:18.000 Well, uh, just, we've got about 20 seconds left.

01:28:21.000 You off the top of your head know the Farmers Branch website?

01:28:23.000 www.farmersbranch.info, but the best place to go is www.supportfarmersbranch.com.

01:28:31.000 Ah, supportfarmersbranch.com.

01:28:34.000 Uh, Councilman, thank you, sir.

01:28:36.000 Hey, my pleasure.

01:28:37.000 I'll be on anytime, Alex.

01:28:38.000 You bet.

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01:32:59.000 I've been here six years.

01:33:02.000 Where are you originally from?

01:33:03.000 Norway.

01:33:05.000 Oh, wow, so you're there on business.

01:33:08.000 Teaching English.

01:33:09.000 All right, so what are you calling about today, sir?

01:33:13.000 Okay, first I want to say I consider you my brother.

01:33:19.000 I follow you almost every day and you have my full respect and blessings.

01:33:26.000 Well, thank you, sir.

01:33:27.000 God bless you.

01:33:30.000 Okay, first a piece of news and then a question for you.

01:33:35.000 Guess who's here in Vietnam training Vietnamese soldiers?

01:33:40.000 Our military!

01:33:42.000 Yes.

01:33:44.000 About two years ago on the BBC, you know, I was very perplexed to see the Prime Minister.

01:33:50.000 He made an announcement that he had a plan to get American military instructors over to Vietnam to train the Vietnamese military.

01:34:01.000 I saw that a few years ago and frankly didn't even cover it because I didn't think the listeners could handle it or believe it.

01:34:10.000 That's the kind of stuff, it's all so insane.

01:34:14.000 And then I tell it to a friend of mine and he said, yeah, didn't you know that they've been here one year already?

01:34:22.000 I saw the plan a couple years ago to part of Clinton.

01:34:26.000 Clinton opened up relations six years ago, but they'd really been operating before that.

01:34:34.000 But I don't know what the Vietnamese would need advice on. 1.00

01:34:36.000 It seems they know what they're doing when it comes to guerrilla warfare.

01:34:40.000 I guess it shows the long arm of the new world order.

01:34:46.000 Yeah, Ho Chi Minh is gone now, so the New World Order takes over one way or the other, huh?

01:34:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:55.000 And now Vietnam is becoming capitalist, you know, because about 1991 they realized that they were running out of money, and so they had to liberalize the economy.

01:35:07.000 Yeah, they've got lots of Nike plants now.

01:35:10.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:13.000 And, well, it's awfully, awfully, awfully corrupted.

01:35:16.000 The rich are getting richer, and the poor, they stay poor.

01:35:22.000 That's the deal.

01:35:23.000 I want to ask you, well, with your intelligence on these matters, what do you predict is the future for Southeast Asia?

01:35:33.000 Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand?

01:35:37.000 It's going to turn into a total police state, even to a greater extent, until the police state's in place.

01:35:43.000 And then there will be really bizarre super viruses that pop up and start reducing the population over the next decade.

01:35:50.000 Just like we'll see that in Africa already happening. 0.97

01:35:52.000 What, 35% of the continent has AIDS or illnesses that mimic it.

01:35:58.000 And that there's just going to be big global slave plantations just like China, just like the U.S. 0.75

01:36:04.000 is going to be.

01:36:04.000 I mean, it's all the same programs, the same names, the same systems, all owned by the big central banks.

01:36:12.000 I mean, what do you see happening?

01:36:13.000 You're there.

01:36:14.000 I bet you know more about it than I do.

01:36:16.000 Well, you can say with Vietnam, the worst thing is at the same time the best thing, and that is the corruption. 0.99

01:36:27.000 That is, uh, it's very, very corrupted, so you can never trust the government, you can never trust a police officer.

01:36:36.000 At the same time, if some police officer, he gets a directive from a superior to do something, well, he might not just do it, if he doesn't want to.

01:36:51.000 Well, that's the thing about balance.

01:36:54.000 The old joke is in Mexico, at least you know, you just pay the bribe.

01:36:57.000 And folks, I've been in Mexico and had the cop pull me over.

01:37:01.000 I've actually been in a car while it happens, and then the driver just gives him twenty bucks and it's no problem.

01:37:07.000 That's just how they operate. 0.99

01:37:08.000 Here it's more sophisticated because they keep the corruption at the low level only in certain areas and then basically have a bunch of well-meaning idiots Yeah, I don't know. 0.99

01:37:18.000 I don't know how you can microchip 80 million Vietnamese. 0.96

01:37:22.000 start falling apart and that's what the globalists are trying to quote root out corruption worldwide by that they mean just put in their type of corruption yeah I don't know I don't know how you can microchip 80 million Vietnamese I mean running around everywhere and they are not registered and the government they don't know where the hell they are and I think it's sort of just too chaotic here to 0.97

01:37:49.000 Sure, it's going to be the first world countries where they go, you don't have to have the chip, but if you want the free health care, you've got to have it.

01:37:58.000 Or if you want that tax exemption for your children, or if you want to drive a car, or if you want to prove you're a trusted... Like Andy Rooney said on 60 Minutes, we all need to take chips to prove we're the good people.

01:38:10.000 Or what Sean Haddish said, every child needs a chip.

01:38:13.000 I have him on video.

01:38:15.000 No, I don't know about Vietnam. 0.99

01:38:17.000 I think the best thing they could do here would just be to put a neutron bomb on us and just exterminate all of us or something like that. 0.94

01:38:27.000 I think it will be very hard to organize this society that is just so extremely disorganized. 0.88

01:38:38.000 Well, a neutron bomb, as you know, folks, doesn't create a heat wave that is destroying life by fire.

01:38:46.000 It sends out a powerful pulse of intense radiation, killing all life, depending on how powerful it is 100 feet under the ground.

01:38:56.000 But I don't think they'll use neutron bombs.

01:38:58.000 When they start calling us, it'll be wave after wave of buyer releases.

01:39:02.000 Every few years, it'll be the shadowy terror group, Chaos, that's doing it.

01:39:08.000 There'll be little video recordings that Chaos, or whatever name they give it, will announce on television.

01:39:15.000 But don't worry, the global government is fighting and routing out Chaos.

01:39:21.000 Oh, we defeated chaos forces in this country.

01:39:24.000 Oh, we defeated them in that country.

01:39:25.000 I mean, that's really the program plan.

01:39:28.000 And so that's what I see happening.

01:39:30.000 Well, listen, I really appreciate you coming on the show and I'll call back again.

01:39:37.000 OK, thanks.

01:39:38.000 Thank you.

01:39:40.000 Callers all over the globe call from Vietnam.

01:39:43.000 Let's talk to Brian in New Jersey.

01:39:46.000 You're on the air worldwide.

01:39:47.000 Go ahead.

01:39:47.000 Okay, Bill in Iowa.

01:39:54.000 You're on the air.

01:39:54.000 Go ahead.

01:39:56.000 Hello, Alex, again.

01:39:58.000 That's right, earlier you wanted to make a comment, we ran out of time, go ahead.

01:40:01.000 Yeah, thank you for holding me over.

01:40:04.000 The guy that called earlier basically answered my question to you about what can we do.

01:40:14.000 Okay.

01:40:16.000 Do I have a few minutes or do I have to rush?

01:40:19.000 No, just go ahead, sir.

01:40:21.000 Thank you.

01:40:22.000 Do you know that we have five social classes in this country?

01:40:31.000 Okay.

01:40:32.000 Okay, we have the rich, we have the upper middle class, the middle class, the lower middle class, and the poor.

01:40:44.000 Well, I would say there's about ten groups.

01:40:47.000 You've got the lower lower class, the lower working class, the higher level blue collar, the lower middle class, the middle class, the upper middle class, the nouveau riche, the wealthy, the super wealthy, the ultra-rich, the elite, and then the money printers.

01:41:11.000 Okay, well the money printers are the People that we are fighting against, but anyway, um, yes, I, okay, we, we g-haul there.

01:41:23.000 Okay.

01:41:23.000 Pardon my southern expression.

01:41:26.000 Um, my point is, um, I just got the, uh, another cop.

01:41:36.000 I've got the terror storm and the, uh, freedom to fascism. 0.76

01:41:42.000 Yes, sir.

01:41:43.000 Just came in yesterday, ordered it three weeks ago, and man, I watched that Freedom to Fascism.

01:41:51.000 It just totally blew me away.

01:41:53.000 Yeah, and let me just add something about shipping here.

01:41:56.000 People always ask, hey, one time I ordered and I got it in three days.

01:42:00.000 Another time I ordered and it took three weeks.

01:42:03.000 What happens is, we got Freedom to Fascism in, and then of course, then it sells out, then you gotta get more in.

01:42:10.000 So sometimes, you know, it'll take a while if something becomes backordered.

01:42:15.000 But right now, we are not backordered on anything.

01:42:18.000 We were backordered on t-shirts.

01:42:19.000 Those just came in.

01:42:21.000 So that's why it took you three weeks to get it.

01:42:23.000 But again, we're not Amazon.com, but they don't have Freedom to Fascism.

01:42:27.000 We're a small operation.

01:42:29.000 We try best we can.

01:42:30.000 But thank you for getting the film, sir.

01:42:32.000 No problem.

01:42:33.000 I have several of your documentaries, and I've had to wait just about every time, and I was always glad to get them.

01:42:43.000 And I share them with others.

01:42:46.000 But anyway, the thing is here, my point is, like the previous caller asked you, what can we do?

01:42:58.000 What are we going to do about this, man?

01:43:02.000 Here's the deal.

01:43:04.000 It's like the Twilight Zone.

01:43:06.000 Where was I?

01:43:07.000 I was looking at people just the other day and I was on an escalator.

01:43:14.000 I guess I was at the mall.

01:43:15.000 That's right.

01:43:16.000 I went to the Apple Store.

01:43:17.000 My wife was in another store doing something and I was standing there with my son holding his hand and I was just looking at people.

01:43:25.000 And they just look so into themselves and happy or sad or posing or, you know, striking a pose, what people do.

01:43:34.000 And I just wanted to warn them.

01:43:36.000 I wanted to start shouting, hey, there's a global government.

01:43:39.000 There's criminals in control.

01:43:40.000 They're incrementally destroying our freedom.

01:43:42.000 They have very bad plans for you.

01:43:44.000 They've devalued your dollar.

01:43:46.000 But they've been conditioned that that would be crazy.

01:43:48.000 Now, sometimes I get the urge when my family isn't with me.

01:43:51.000 I will do it.

01:43:51.000 I have done it.

01:43:52.000 Or I'll walk over to a crowd of people.

01:43:54.000 People see me in America and they talk about design.

01:43:57.000 Walk into a big crowd.

01:43:58.000 In fact, I'm going to do that.

01:43:58.000 I'm going to, for the new film I'm making, I'm going to go out and do some of that.

01:44:02.000 Just start yelling in crowds and warning people.

01:44:06.000 And really, that's the instinct.

01:44:08.000 We have to get through the comfort zone.

01:44:10.000 And we love these people.

01:44:12.000 I mean, don't we all have that drive?

01:44:14.000 I mean, I know I have it.

01:44:15.000 I want to warn people, man!

01:44:16.000 I want to tell them!

01:44:17.000 That's an instinct, you know, that goes back to coming back to the cave and going, there's a big cave bear coming this way.

01:44:23.000 Let's get ready and ambush it, you know?

01:44:25.000 And then that's what our ancestors would do, was get up above it on the cliff side with big old boulders and heave them down on the cave bear.

01:44:33.000 That's why we extincted them in northern and western Europe. 0.76

01:44:37.000 I'm kind of digressing into anthropology, but I mean, I've got that instinct.

01:44:41.000 I saw a big cave bear down by the brook.

01:44:43.000 It's coming this way, and I run in and go, ooka, ooka, ooka, ooka.

01:44:46.000 And I mean, I just want to ooka, ooka, ooka, ooba, juba, juba.

01:44:50.000 I mean, I want to run around doing that everywhere.

01:44:52.000 I want to run down.

01:44:53.000 I've done it, too.

01:44:54.000 Sometimes I have the urge.

01:44:55.000 I just walk outside in front of the office, and I go, world government's here.

01:44:58.000 You know, Google Operation Northwoods.

01:45:02.000 Sometimes I see cameras. 0.99

01:45:04.000 I want to get out of my car and bash them with a baseball bat. 0.98

01:45:06.000 I haven't done that. 0.99

01:45:07.000 I have to control the urge.

01:45:09.000 I want to, like, go get spray paint at StencilInfoWars.com on every bridge.

01:45:13.000 I want to do... I can't do it all.

01:45:15.000 You know, I mean, I want to warn people.

01:45:17.000 Hey man, don't take the vaccines.

01:45:19.000 They're deadly.

01:45:20.000 So really, it's warning people.

01:45:22.000 They don't know yet.

01:45:24.000 And so... And, you know, a guy called earlier and said, well, we're preaching to the choir here.

01:45:31.000 You know, what are we doing here on air?

01:45:35.000 We need to, you know, go to war. 0.93

01:45:36.000 I don't think he said go to war, but he said we need to do something now.

01:45:40.000 And so many of the people on the web and other places that are calling for violence, not saying he was, but others are, I mean, if you really start calling for violence, folks, you get arrested if you're not a fed.

01:45:50.000 And every time I've researched the people calling for violence, that is on an organized platform, using their name, that's not really their name, A, And then B, and it's normally both of them, they are there trying to provocateur others.

01:46:04.000 They didn't hurt the New World Order if somebody was to go into a police station and shoot 20 cops.

01:46:10.000 Most of those cops are good people. 1.00

01:46:12.000 They're ignorant. 0.99

01:46:13.000 They've been given bad programs. 1.00

01:46:14.000 They've been given bad information.

01:46:16.000 They're malfunctioning.

01:46:17.000 They don't know.

01:46:18.000 It would do nothing to blow up every federal building in the country.

01:46:21.000 The globalists would love it.

01:46:23.000 They're going to call in foreign troops.

01:46:25.000 The Globalists plan to have a big civil war here, by the way. 0.97

01:46:28.000 They're going to do stuff so bad, we're going to be forced to defend ourselves, and that's the way it is.

01:46:33.000 And they're going to love the first wave of our own police and military.

01:46:36.000 They're going to get shot up.

01:46:37.000 They're going to get routed. 0.96

01:46:38.000 Boom! 0.99

01:46:39.000 And they may do this.

01:46:41.000 They could have the illegals riot and bring in foreign troops. 0.87

01:46:44.000 They could have a civil war and bring in foreign troops.

01:46:46.000 You're probably going to see it.

01:46:48.000 And the best thing to do, frankly, when that time comes, is be like a porcupine.

01:46:52.000 You're not out looking for trouble.

01:46:54.000 You don't want to fill anybody full of lead, but you will defend yourself.

01:47:01.000 We're in for big trouble, sir.

01:47:04.000 They are setting it up.

01:47:05.000 As crazy as it sounds, North Com announced in Army Times three weeks ago, I asked Paul to do an article, but God bless him, he's been too busy.

01:47:13.000 He writes two a day, so does his brother.

01:47:15.000 I guess I've got to do it, but I'm trying to make films, do radio interviews.

01:47:18.000 I think I'll be on air eight hours today.

01:47:21.000 Eight hours I'll be on air today.

01:47:24.000 At the end of this show, it'll be five hours.

01:47:26.000 I mean, I'm exhausted.

01:47:29.000 So I'm doing everything I can, but the biggest... I notice all the other quote patriots, most of them, they either nitpick each other, tear each other down, or they sit around and strategize all day.

01:47:41.000 When I got enemies in the Info War coming into the foxhole on top of me, I mean, I'm literally swinging my musket here.

01:47:48.000 I'm not waiting for orders from headquarters.

01:47:51.000 I'm not sitting there thinking about the best strategy.

01:47:53.000 I am just going absolutely ape.

01:47:55.000 You know, it's like when you get in a fight.

01:47:57.000 I'm sure you've been in a few fights in your life, sir.

01:47:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:59.000 I mean, back in the past, everybody did.

01:48:01.000 Nowadays, people don't.

01:48:02.000 They either shoot each other.

01:48:03.000 You know, back in the good old days, you got in fights.

01:48:05.000 I mean, you know, you might be afraid when some big guy's coming down on you, but as soon as his fist... I remember that, boy, when some big guy would... I'd be scared at first.

01:48:13.000 That's when I was getting jacked up.

01:48:15.000 And man, as soon as that big fist would crack into me, or as soon as something just... I wasn't worried anymore.

01:48:19.000 I was on fire.

01:48:20.000 Tasmanian devil, baby.

01:48:22.000 I was glad it was on. 0.92

01:48:23.000 And you know what?

01:48:24.000 That's what we have to do.

01:48:25.000 Just turn it on.

01:48:26.000 Just turn it on!

01:48:27.000 That's what you gotta do!

01:48:29.000 You gotta turn it on and do those banner hangs.

01:48:31.000 Turn it on with that spray paint!

01:48:33.000 I'm just going to... You've got to just turn it on, ladies and gentlemen!

01:48:37.000 Turn it on!

01:48:38.000 Get her done! 0.97

01:48:39.000 Make the thousands of copies!

01:48:41.000 Make your own films!

01:48:43.000 Buy the guns for the... We have to... Just, just, just... You know what?

01:48:47.000 Just warn the people.

01:48:48.000 We're starting to win, sir.

01:48:50.000 And that's making the globalists really mad, and they're just going ahead with their program.

01:48:53.000 Okay?

01:48:53.000 On the air?

01:48:54.000 Yeah, you're on the air.

01:48:55.000 Oh, thank you.

01:48:59.000 My point is...

01:49:03.000 The only way I see that anything is going to come of this is, is when they take away everything from all of us.

01:49:16.000 And then everybody's going to have to bear arms and fight.

01:49:22.000 I know, but did you hear me?

01:49:23.000 They want us to wipe out the police and military.

01:49:26.000 The best thing to do is avoid them.

01:49:30.000 Okay, avoid, it goes into whole guerrilla strategy and a lot of, it's the second wave.

01:49:35.000 You've got to worry about.

01:49:36.000 I appreciate your call.

01:49:38.000 I've got to let you go.

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01:52:51.000 A former member of British Intelligence just sent me this email.

01:53:06.000 Well...

01:53:08.000 We've interviewed.

01:53:10.000 Security alert as police lose a briefcase of dummy bombs.

01:53:15.000 This just came out today on a train.

01:53:18.000 Probably real bombs.

01:53:19.000 You never know.

01:53:19.000 Or maybe it's dummy bombs.

01:53:22.000 And they're always practicing taking them on airplanes everywhere else.

01:53:24.000 That's what the guys on 9-11 thought they were doing until the nerve gas took them out and the planes were remote controlled in the buildings.

01:53:31.000 This is a London Evening Standard.

01:53:33.000 We'll get a report out on this.

01:53:35.000 We'll put it on JonesReport.com right now.

01:53:37.000 A major security alert has sparked after police lost a briefcase full of imitation bombs and other devices.

01:53:44.000 And it goes on to say that this has been going on since October.

01:53:49.000 The incident was on October 31st, but now they don't know who got the fake bombs.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, sure.

01:53:55.000 They're always at... It's like when the Russian police got caught planting bombs in a fourth building, FSB did.

01:54:02.000 Moscow police caught them and they claimed it was just a drill, but it was real bombs.

01:54:06.000 Tissue people never end.

01:54:08.000 Uh, who knows what's really behind that, or maybe one chance out of a hundred that it really was a guy who had fake bombs who works for the government.

01:54:16.000 Sure.

01:54:17.000 Hey, here's that old Disney piece from World War II, where they're talking about Hitler and his New World Order. 0.65

01:54:22.000 This is an anti-Nazi film, because Hitler called for a New World Order, so they don't show these anymore.

01:54:27.000 Here it is.

01:54:28.000 Is he not the Superman?

01:54:31.000 Are you not the Superman?

01:54:32.000 Yeah, he is the Superman.

01:54:38.000 Would you leave it if you could?

01:54:40.000 We would leave it if we could.

01:54:42.000 I order Hitler's World Order! 1.00

01:54:43.000 We bring to the world new order.

01:54:47.000 I order Hitler's world order. 1.00

01:54:50.000 If we want a foreign race, we love the foreign states, then we bring to the world disorder. 1.00

01:54:59.000 I don't hit the world's order.

01:55:03.000 You see, they use many different faces, many different people, but the program moves forward.

01:55:08.000 Eugenics Extermination Program for you and your family.

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01:55:22.000 You can get it from us, though.

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01:55:29.000 Hey Alex, I'm a first-time caller.

01:55:38.000 I was also right behind you at Ground Zero.

01:55:40.000 Channing 9-11 was an inside job.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, it was pretty insane.

01:55:45.000 I almost got through yesterday.

01:55:46.000 I just wanted to make a quick comment about ManCow. 1.00

01:55:49.000 Listen, I think ManCow is an idiot piece of trash. 1.00

01:55:51.000 Hannity-loving, less-than-nothing anti-American. 1.00

01:55:54.000 For him to say that the firefighters are actors is absurd.

01:55:57.000 I met all these men at the community church in New York, and I mean, just listening to them tell their stories about how they're dying, and you know, it's just disgusting to hear a man like him make an accusation like that. 0.59

01:56:07.000 No, no, no.

01:56:07.000 That's why we had him on, was just to let him go and let you see.

01:56:12.000 I know, it's unbelievable.

01:56:13.000 I mean, these guys are heroes, you know?

01:56:16.000 Well, the firefighters are heroes and so are the police.

01:56:19.000 And look, they've got a bunch of lies, we've got the truth, and Mankow is just an establishment lackey, but we're more than happy to get the info out through his program.

01:56:29.000 Yeah, unbelievable.

01:56:32.000 Good to have you here, my friend.

01:56:33.000 Call me back when I get more time, Nick.

01:56:35.000 Let's talk to New World Order. 0.91

01:56:36.000 Where are you calling us from, New World Order?

01:56:38.000 Yes, this is on the NWROX.

01:56:40.000 How are you doing?

01:56:42.000 Good.

01:56:42.000 What's up?

01:56:43.000 A couple things.

01:56:43.000 First, I sent an email to Kevin and Aaron last night.

01:56:48.000 One of the biggest news bloggers on MySpace got deleted yesterday.

01:56:51.000 His name's Andre.

01:56:52.000 I sent him a cash link to the page and stuff so you guys could make an article or something about it if you could.

01:56:56.000 Oh, that's a good idea.

01:56:58.000 I've got a few... I hear the... Oh, is this the end?

01:57:01.000 Alright.

01:57:01.000 Yeah.

01:57:02.000 You've got death row inmates on MySpace on Wired.com.

01:57:06.000 They're trying to censor them.

01:57:08.000 Um, you've got, uh, PayPal thinks I'm a terrorist on LiveJournal.com.

01:57:13.000 These are just articles that I saw you guys have missed.

01:57:16.000 Um, they, Monsanto, tried to do everything to destroy us.

01:57:20.000 That's on IndieBay.org.

01:57:22.000 Hey, we're out of time.

01:57:23.000 I gotta let you go.

01:57:24.000 I appreciate it.

01:57:24.000 Call me back, uh, this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 All right, Pat Buchanan is scheduled to be calling in in the next few minutes.

01:58:11.000 Last time I had him on, about three years ago, I brought up Bohemian Grove to him, which he said he'd attended.

01:58:17.000 And I pointed out that I'd been inside it and seen the rituals.

01:58:19.000 He said, oh, I mean, that's a mistake.

01:58:21.000 I didn't attend with Richard Nixon.

01:58:23.000 We have photos of Nixon being there and he gave speeches there.

01:58:26.000 And so his new book is called State of Emergency.

01:58:29.000 I don't have him on to attack him today.

01:58:31.000 I wasn't attacking him when we had him on a couple years ago.

01:58:33.000 He's been on many times over the years.

01:58:35.000 But we'll see if Buchanan shows up for the show.

01:58:38.000 I know he's a very busy man.

01:58:39.000 He's in Fox News studios right now and is scheduled to be calling in here in the next few minutes.

01:58:44.000 His new book, already number one on the New York Times best-selling list, State of Emergency.

01:58:50.000 Now, we have talked about the very popular rock band, Muse, that over the weekend was on BBC Television Live wearing a t-shirt, the lead singer that said, Terror Storm, and when he was questioned about it by the media, he said, just go to Google Video and type in Terror Storm for a real surprise.

01:59:15.000 And some vital information.

01:59:16.000 He's since been interviewed by a major newspaper on the subject and is saying that he does believe 9-11 is an inside job.

01:59:27.000 So let me just read to you some of this out of the Sunday Mail in the United Kingdom.

01:59:32.000 This came out yesterday.

01:59:34.000 Mews have cracked America despite singer Matt Outspoken views on George Bush. 1.00

01:59:43.000 Matt Bellamy's outspoken views on George Bush.

01:59:46.000 The fiery British trio have rocketed to number nine on the US Billboard charts with their great new album, Black Holes and Revelations.

01:59:54.000 But Matt, whose passion for conspiracy theories has inspired their songs, has fired a broadside at Wiley O.W.

02:00:03.000 in the White House.

02:00:04.000 He said, I'm fascinated by conspiracy theories.

02:00:06.000 We're surrounded by them.

02:00:08.000 Boy, you're right about that.

02:00:11.000 We're surrounded by criminal government conspiracy theories.

02:00:14.000 Are we really supposed to believe that a man in a cave in Afghanistan managed to orchestrate the most unbelievable attack on the United States of all time?

02:00:24.000 I think 9-11 was definitely an inside job done by a group of high-powered people looking for an excuse to invade the Middle East for oil and other natural resources.

02:00:32.000 I think America needed another Pearl Harbor-type event in order to invade Iraq. 0.93

02:00:35.000 It gave the U.S. 0.96

02:00:36.000 and U.K.

02:00:36.000 governments the perfect excuse to go to war.

02:00:39.000 I caught up with the singer when Muse and other groups in the band, the printer screwed up and did lines across this, played a sell-out gig at the Meadow Bank Stadium in Edinburgh last week as part of Tea on the Fringe.

02:00:57.000 Now the group are coming back north of the border to play the SECC in Glasgow on November 7th.

02:01:04.000 On September 4th, the new single, Straight Light, is released as the follow-up to their smash hit, Supermassive Black Hole.

02:01:11.000 Muse filmed the straight video on a cargo ship off the coast of Los Angeles as it provided a stomach-churning experience.

02:01:19.000 And it goes on to just talk about how the band's winning all these awards.

02:01:25.000 But right there in the middle of the story, saying they believe it is an inside job.

02:01:30.000 So, We are working on getting in contact with these guys.

02:01:33.000 We were contacted by another big British band over the weekend.

02:01:36.000 We've been out of town, so we're trying to get them on as well.

02:01:41.000 This is highly exciting to see so many people beginning to witness Not just 9-11, but the lies of the Iraq War, the police state, the American Union, all the loss of freedoms that we're witnessing in this nation. 0.73

02:01:56.000 And we are going to continue to stand up for this Republic.

02:02:00.000 The things that elements of the government, these globalists, are doing are so criminal, so outlandish, so out in the open, they should all be removed from office right now for signing the American Union Pact in March of last year and then expanding it in December.

02:02:15.000 It's real.

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02:02:36.000 We're on our last legs right now.

02:02:38.000 People are rallying to defend the country.

02:02:39.000 That's the good news.

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02:05:52.000 90% of the American people in a Gallup poll held during the George Bush-financed illegal alien rampages of a few months ago.

02:06:14.000 90%, it went from 87% in polls wanting to control the borders, and 90% it backfired, all those Mexican flags. 0.98

02:06:23.000 And then the neocons and the liberals tried to have their PR firms, Rob Allen and Co.

02:06:28.000 serve out Uh, the American flags, but it, the people know they're being lied to.

02:06:33.000 90%!

02:06:33.000 And that's, that's echoed by the excellent book, I've now had a chance to read part of it over the weekend, State of Emergency, that I got on Friday, already number one on the New York Times, Best seller list.

02:06:45.000 You've got to get a copy of this.

02:06:47.000 I've seen no chronicle, I've read about half of it, that lays out, page by page, bombshell after bombshell, all documented, because as you know, I'm an expert on this subject, as many of you are.

02:06:58.000 We cover this.

02:06:59.000 We believe this is the number one issue.

02:07:00.000 It dwarfs the quote, threat of international terrorism.

02:07:04.000 The globalists have signed the North American Union pact.

02:07:06.000 We are going into it.

02:07:08.000 And joining us from the Fox News Studios, a very busy man, is Patrick Buchanan.

02:07:13.000 Patrick J. Buchanan with a new book, State of Emergency.

02:07:17.000 He, of course, a few years ago wrote The Death of the West.

02:07:20.000 And we may already be dead, ladies and gentlemen.

02:07:23.000 Pat Buchanan, thanks for coming on with us.

02:07:25.000 Well, thank you very much, Alex, for having me.

02:07:27.000 Tell us, sir, why you decided to write a second book on this subject, and break down the new developments that have happened, and explain to us how this is the state of emergency, the third world war, the third world invasion, and the conquest of America.

02:07:42.000 Well, I looked at the situation, and as it came up, and we were engaged in this battle ever since last December, and all the way up through this year, and it seemed to me, looking at it, looking at the numbers, looking at what's going to happen if we don't get control of the border, And if there is a Bush amnesty or a McCain-Kennedy amnesty, I think that we're looking at how America ends.

02:08:05.000 You take a look at civilizations and empires, and I've studied them, and how they end invariably is when the population ceases to reproduce itself, as native-born Americans are doing, inevitably the great nations are invaded peacefully from foreign lands, And then you have the decomposition, the breakup, the breakup of the body, if you will, when the soul, which is patriotism, dies.

02:08:30.000 And as you look at what is happening to America, the incapacity of our leaders even to control the borders, even to control the doors to our own national home, and the magnitude of the invasion, 36 million immigrants here, more than almost as many as all that ever came in our history, and 12 million of them illegally, Six million tried to get in on Bush's watch. 0.81

02:08:53.000 The Mexican government looking upon the United States as a dumping ground for its poor and unemployed.

02:08:58.000 A crippling of the third world people not from Mexico. 1.00

02:09:01.000 A crippling in three years of those caught at the border.

02:09:05.000 These being turned, released, and let go.

02:09:08.000 I don't see how, Alex, you stop the invasion if we do not stop it cold now with a security fence, no amnesty, and start punishing businesses that hire illegals and cut off all welfare benefits. 0.86

02:09:22.000 Well, you're absolutely right, sir.

02:09:25.000 There's so many facets I want to go over here.

02:09:27.000 You mentioned, and you've got the statistics in your book, that we now have in this country as many current immigrants as we had in the 200 plus years before that.

02:09:38.000 And if they were coming here wanting to join the United States, that'd be one thing.

02:09:43.000 Most of them are vehemently saying they want to bring down the United States.

02:09:47.000 They want to reconquista.

02:09:49.000 I was listening to NPR coming back from Dallas.

02:09:52.000 This weekend I heard him bragging on Latino USA that, well people don't like it that Mexicans are taking over New Orleans.

02:09:59.000 Well this used to be Spanish anyways and the immigrants say this is Mexico.

02:10:03.000 And they were snickering on the program because the liberals of this country hate this country and they love what's happening.

02:10:11.000 Well a lot of them welcome what's happening.

02:10:14.000 They are really anti-western culture.

02:10:18.000 They are in many ways anti- And there's a hostility. 0.99

02:10:22.000 Remember Susan Sontag made her famous statement, the leftist intellectual, the white race is the cancer of human history. 1.00

02:10:30.000 Many are rejoicing in the fact that the America that we loved and grew up in and we inherited from our parents That this is disappearing. 0.94

02:10:39.000 It is being inundated.

02:10:41.000 The culture is being inundated.

02:10:43.000 It's being split apart.

02:10:45.000 All of these things people are well thinking under the name of multiculturalism.

02:10:49.000 But when the culture dies, the unifying culture of a country, the country itself dies, Alex.

02:10:55.000 Well, Ray Nagin got criticized when he just said, listen, you know, this city's culture is a chocolate city, and we don't like the fact that the majority is not going to be foreigners or openly say this is Mexico.

02:11:08.000 Ray Nagin's absolutely right. 0.89

02:11:10.000 Well, look, black people are as American as apple pie. 1.00

02:11:15.000 I grew up in Washington, D.C.

02:11:18.000 It was a segregated city, a southern city, but at the same time, African-Americans or black Americans and white Americans, we were marinated in the same culture.

02:11:27.000 We had the same teams we rooted for, we watched the same TV shows, listened to the same radio, went to the same movies.

02:11:34.000 When we went to schools, the schools may have been segregated, public schools, but we studied the same literature, studied the same language, the same history, the same heroes, the same holidays.

02:11:45.000 We were one people. 0.97

02:11:46.000 If you had called A black American in those days that were called Negroes, if you called them an African then, you'd have been punched in your face! 0.97

02:11:55.000 And so we were one people! 0.89

02:11:57.000 But what's happening now when you've got, you know, half of Los Angeles County doesn't even speak English in its own home!

02:12:04.000 We're Balkanizing! 0.76

02:12:05.000 We're breaking up culturally, linguistically, and socially.

02:12:09.000 I remember 8 years ago, a 10-part series in the San Antonio Express News, written by Mr. Gonzales, excellent pieces, where they went and 7 South Texas towns fought a Mexican flag in the U.S.

02:12:21.000 No one is allowed to speak English in the court proceedings.

02:12:24.000 You don't see the ACLU and the feds.

02:12:26.000 Well, that is a huge, huge part of it.

02:12:28.000 but you see them going after sheriffs who say they're going to arrest illegal aliens.

02:12:32.000 Isn't this about the New World Order, Pat?

02:12:34.000 Isn't this about breaking up the U.S. by hook or by crook?

02:12:37.000 Well, that is a huge, huge part of it.

02:12:41.000 You know, many of these huge corporations that used to be really proud American corporations that built the weapons that won World War II, now all declare themselves global corporations.

02:12:52.000 And their ambition is to remove all national barriers and frontiers so they can move people and goods wherever they want to, which they feel is most efficient for the company.

02:13:04.000 So they put the company ahead of the country, and they genuinely believe that what we need is a global market where these big corporations can move all over the global market, and there's a global government there that runs it all.

02:13:17.000 This is the New World Order idea, and frankly we're There is a program, and I write about it in a column for tomorrow morning, Alex, but it's also in the book.

02:13:26.000 It's the North American Union concept.

02:13:30.000 Vicente Fox has signed on.

02:13:32.000 The Foreign Minister of Mexico talks about complete economic integration, or complete integration of the two countries.

02:13:39.000 The Council on Foreign Relations is talking about the erasure of the borders.

02:13:43.000 He said the way to solve the illegal alien problem is let them all come in, erase the border, And have Canada, the United States, and Mexico be one union? 1.00

02:13:54.000 In other words, like the European Union?

02:13:57.000 And that is to merge with the European Union eventually, into the, if you will, the New World World.

02:14:02.000 Pat, how do we in the past, you talking about this decades ago, myself for over a decade, we may be called conspiracy theorists, but David Rockefeller published his memoirs two years ago and said, I've been accused of wanting one world government and getting rid of the U.S., well I stand guilty as accused, that's exactly what I want.

02:14:17.000 These pe-country!

02:14:19.000 They are out of the closet, that's exactly right.

02:14:21.000 Walter Cronkite said virtually the same thing.

02:14:24.000 And folks say that, look, America, what we're going to have to do, we're going to have to strengthen and empower the UN, we're all going to have to surrender some of our sovereignty, we're going to have to have these global institutions, prevent wars by putting down, by being supreme over nations and countries.

02:14:41.000 What that is, Alex, is an act of wholesale treason.

02:14:47.000 Against what the founding fathers believed, and what they fought for, and what many of them died for.

02:14:53.000 Pat, we know, and all the veterans died for, we know that the Democrats are for this, but the Republicans seem to be leading this, even though it's going to lose them control of the House, and maybe even the Senate, or the Senate, maybe even the House.

02:15:07.000 I mean, we're seeing this unfold, and George Bush continues to try to spin it with doublespeak, saying, oh no, my guest worker program is an amnesty, but you read the plan, as you mentioned, the Kennedy plan that Bush has been supporting, it's blanket, total amnesty, and in the SPP.gov agreement signed last March in Waco, Texas, it says that we're going to have an American ID card in North America, and all the Mexicans and Canadians will instantly be legalized.

02:15:33.000 Well, that's the instrument by which the The nations are welded together as the NAFTA superhighway.

02:15:41.000 Coming up from Lázaro Cárdenas port all the way up through the United States into Canada.

02:15:48.000 And people don't, they bring the containers in from China and they bring them to a customs port, if you can believe it, in Kansas City.

02:15:54.000 How are Americans going to like the Mexican government running a large portion of that city?

02:16:00.000 Well, I think the American people are up in arms, but we cannot get any response from the government of the United States.

02:16:08.000 That's the thing.

02:16:09.000 97% of Texans that even just have a small glimpse of what the trans-Texas corridor is, the first leg of the NAFTA highways, 97% of the Houston Chronicle poll are against it, 90% are against open borders, 70% are against the Iraq War, but they don't care!

02:16:25.000 The establishment just keeps moving forward, Pat!

02:16:28.000 How do we demand the constitutional will of the people?

02:16:33.000 You know, the Constitution says, and it's explicit, that the government of the United States shall protect the states from invasion.

02:16:41.000 Now, if 12 million people here illegally, three times the size of the American army in Europe after World War II, If that is not an invasion, and six million trying to break in on Bush's watch is not an invasion, I don't know what it is.

02:16:56.000 But they refuse to do it.

02:16:57.000 The President himself has said, look, I can't defend the borders unless you give me, basically, my guest worker program and my amnesty program.

02:17:06.000 And then you won't need to defend the borders.

02:17:10.000 Then you won't need to because there won't be a border!

02:17:13.000 Exactly!

02:17:14.000 If you do not get the border under control now, then the agenda of these people will be realized by default.

02:17:23.000 They know what they're doing, and Pat, I hear some of the mainline conservative talk show hosts up there spinning it.

02:17:29.000 They'll talk about the border problem, but then they won't go all the way and explain that it's headed up by George W. Neocon, more liberal than Bill Clinton Bush.

02:17:38.000 Pat Buchanan, the new book, State of Emergency, with us on the other side.

02:17:42.000 Stay with us.

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02:21:43.000 State of Emergency.

02:21:57.000 The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America! 0.98

02:22:03.000 We're talking to Pat Buchanan right now.

02:22:08.000 Pat, again, you know, I am a paleo-conservative.

02:22:13.000 I don't want to even be associated with George Bush and his gaggle that are basically destroying this country right now.

02:22:21.000 I know a lot of Americans have woken up now to how bad the immigration problem is and how serious it is to our sovereignty.

02:22:28.000 But I'm always amazed to then discover, it was even in the Dallas Morning News, it was actually Rob Allen and Co.

02:22:33.000 that Bush hired to go in and help Fox stage those illegal alien demonstrations.

02:22:39.000 So we directly have our government Manipulating and fomenting and trying to use illegal aliens as a foreign group domestically in our country to manipulate our policies.

02:22:50.000 I mean, that is espionage right there, Pat.

02:22:54.000 I think the regime is betraying the people.

02:22:56.000 The regime is betraying the nation.

02:22:59.000 The American people want their country protected.

02:23:02.000 They want their borders defended.

02:23:04.000 And I think the American regime in Washington, both parties, is very much in collusion with Mr. Fox And very much sympathetic with his agenda.

02:23:13.000 There's no doubt about it.

02:23:15.000 I think the only reason the President and the White House are moving along and offering sort of some border fence and the rest of it is because the American people and the people of the American Southwest, from Texas all the way to California, have risen up and demanded this happen.

02:23:31.000 They're using this crisis, giving a little bit in that area to resolve that, they say, In order to get their amnesty and guest worker program for the transnational corporations.

02:23:43.000 I think that is the bottom line.

02:23:45.000 And frankly, I believe that Senator Hutchison and Mike Pence are working on a plan, which I think the administration, the Washington Post, and others are behind.

02:23:56.000 Which is basically to say, well, we're going to have border security, but we're also going to have a path to citizenship, no amnesty.

02:24:03.000 As you say, you know, misleading us all.

02:24:06.000 And I think if we follow that, that's the end of the United States as we know it.

02:24:09.000 It's a shell game.

02:24:11.000 It'd be like if Bush said we'll no longer have murder in the United States, we're just going to change the name.

02:24:15.000 It's like they changed the name of torture to pressure.

02:24:18.000 The couple hundred miles of fence and, you know, A few hundred guardsmen at any one time on the border, not even allowed to bust these illegals. 0.99

02:24:26.000 They've now issued a new order a month ago.

02:24:29.000 Chertoff ordered the Border Patrol to not pursue illegals above the speed limit.

02:24:34.000 They're busy tying their hands.

02:24:35.000 I mean, it's smoke and mirrors.

02:24:37.000 Well, it really is.

02:24:38.000 And when you take a look at the numbers, the figures are astronomical.

02:24:43.000 And the President of the United States, you know, can you imagine that in last year, in 2005, he admitted That of the OTMs, these other than Mexicans, I think we caught 150,000 of them on the border. 0.94

02:24:56.000 They're from the Middle East, they're from Asia, China, and, you know, Africa.

02:25:01.000 And everybody knows, nobody knows where.

02:25:04.000 And all, they were released into our population.

02:25:07.000 They said, you know, only one in four turned up in court.

02:25:11.000 What do you expect?

02:25:13.000 The criminals who broke into our country, they're really going to turn up in court and get booted out! 0.98

02:25:18.000 Well, that's right.

02:25:19.000 Going back to the Houston Chronicle again, last year they reported that 250,000 in the two years before it was catch and release, that foreigners other than Latin Americans had been released.

02:25:32.000 Sure, they turned them loose and Bush says, you know, we've got to change this, Pauli.

02:25:35.000 Here we are, three years after the greatest terrorist act In America, and you got people coming in, not just from Mexico, but from other than Mexico, Middle Eastern countries, some of them countries are known as state sponsors of terror, and they're being released!

02:25:52.000 Now how can you say the border is secure?

02:25:55.000 Pat Buchanan, let's be specific though.

02:25:56.000 I don't know if you saw the Dallas Morning News back in December, but they reported then that Rob Allen Co.

02:26:02.000 had been hired to craft the policy with Fox, with the White House, to stage the demonstrations.

02:26:07.000 Can you specifically speak to the White House being actively involved with a foreign mass to bully the American people?

02:26:15.000 Well, I think this is, I mean, Fox and Bush have been colluding on this policy since before 9-11.

02:26:23.000 There is no doubt about it.

02:26:25.000 Vicente Fox was standing right beside Bush when Bush declared the Minutemen vigilantes.

02:26:31.000 He is with Mr. Fox.

02:26:33.000 Now, if you listen to Mr. Fox, though, he goes up to Chicago and he's speaking to Mexican-American citizens.

02:26:39.000 These are Americans.

02:26:40.000 And he says, basically, you are Mexicans who live north of the border.

02:26:45.000 Our country extends Outside of Mexico.

02:26:49.000 In other words, Mexicans in America are a part of Mexico. 0.96

02:26:52.000 They're openly declaring war on us.

02:26:55.000 They are openly declaring, exactly.

02:26:57.000 They are openly reaching to reclaim the allegiance of American citizens who have taken an oath of allegiance to the United States.

02:27:04.000 They are pushing Mexican people into the United States. 1.00

02:27:07.000 They are aiding and abetting them.

02:27:09.000 They are calling them heroes.

02:27:11.000 They have an agenda to make dual citizenship, Mexicans and Americans, so they get influence and control over U.S. 0.96

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02:27:19.000 foreign policy.

02:27:20.000 And the President of the United States is either oblivious to it, but in any event, he has done nothing at all about it.

02:27:27.000 Well, Pat Buchanan, we'll come right back with another segment.

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02:30:49.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:30:55.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:31:01.000 Pat Buchanan's been gracious enough to spend the rest of the hour with us.

02:31:04.000 I may even try at the end of this long segment, take a few calls specifically on the LaRica and Keys to the Open Borders, the North American Union.

02:31:11.000 Toll-free number to join us 1-800-259-9231.

02:31:17.000 First-time callers, I'd like to hear from them as well.

02:31:19.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:31:20.000 I want to play just the first minute of a CNN clip from about two months ago.

02:31:26.000 This is where Lou Dobbs, very credible, highly respected, is talking about the end of America.

02:31:33.000 Play a clip of that.

02:31:34.000 The Bush administration's open borders policy and its decision to ignore the enforcement of this country's immigration laws is part of a broader agenda.

02:31:44.000 President Bush signed a formal agreement that will end the United States as we know it.

02:31:49.000 And he took the step without approval from either the U.S.

02:31:52.000 Congress or the people of the United States.

02:31:56.000 Bill Tucker reports.

02:32:00.000 So, there's Lou Dobbs stating what you're stating, because anybody who's read the SPP agreements, anybody who's seen this, this is the North American Union, this is globalism.

02:32:10.000 I've got the CFR report they put out last year that was then written into this executive agreement that bypasses Congress.

02:32:17.000 It's a treaty without, I guess, ratification.

02:32:21.000 For this North American Union.

02:32:23.000 Pat, let's talk about the people above this.

02:32:25.000 The Council on Foreign Relations openly saying this is about global government.

02:32:29.000 And then the Minions at the lower level.

02:32:32.000 Why?

02:32:32.000 And folks, the Larica and Kista crowd.

02:32:35.000 I mean, they openly say that they want to kill all the whites. 0.98

02:32:39.000 The big UT Chicano Studies professor. 1.00

02:32:41.000 Up at UT Dallas, Arlington openly says all whites must be killed. 0.99

02:32:46.000 Plan of San Diego. 1.00

02:32:47.000 I have him on tape.

02:32:48.000 We can play it if we have time.

02:32:49.000 We've played it many times here for you.

02:32:51.000 It's on the website, PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

02:32:54.000 Imagine!

02:32:55.000 And the number isn't 12 million folks.

02:32:56.000 It's more like 30 million illegal aliens in this country right now. 0.99

02:33:00.000 Groups openly saying they want to kill Americans, openly calling blacks Mayottas. 0.99

02:33:06.000 They are the minority. 0.97

02:33:07.000 As you said, Hispanic Americans were very patriotic or upset about this. 0.84

02:33:11.000 Fox chastises them and says, you're Mexicans.

02:33:13.000 So let's talk about those above and then those below.

02:33:16.000 This perfect storm that if we don't clamp down on it now and force this elite to stop, the country's gone.

02:33:22.000 Pat Buchanan?

02:33:23.000 Well, this is what I call the Aslan plot.

02:33:26.000 It's got a number of themes at different levels.

02:33:29.000 At the ultra level, at the high level, you've got Vicente Fox and his foreign ministers and others talking about European Union, a merger, the complete integration of the two countries, a merger of the two countries, an erasure of the borders, a European Union.

02:33:43.000 You've got the Council on Foreign Relations, Dr. Robert Pasteur, testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a panel of that committee, and said the way to solve this problem of illegal immigration is simple.

02:33:55.000 We erase the American border at the Rio Grande, we erase the border with Canada, We merge the three countries into, quote, a North American union.

02:34:04.000 We put the border at Guatemala.

02:34:06.000 And so we get one North American union all the way from Guatemala to Prudhoe Bay.

02:34:12.000 And ultimately, in this union, of course, you would have to have Americans transferring wealth to Mexico City and Mexicans giving free run to the United States. 0.89

02:34:21.000 By the way, that's in the plan to use the toll road money to pay for building roads in Mexico so they can pump even more of the third world population that doubles every 35 years. 0.96

02:34:32.000 I mean, this is amazing.

02:34:33.000 And they still have a continental security force made up of US, Mexicans and Canadians all the way around our border.

02:34:40.000 And we're talking about foreign troops in America.

02:34:43.000 Well, you're talking also about, look, 46% of the people of Mexico say they would like to live here, so you would automatically get, I mean, that's almost 50 million people, you would get a huge influx of tens of millions of Mexicans into the United States.

02:34:57.000 In addition to that, 58% of all Mexicans believe the American Southwest belongs to them anyhow. 0.94

02:35:01.000 believe the American Southwest belongs to them anyhow.

02:35:04.000 28% say it's American.

02:35:06.000 14% don't know. 0.63

02:35:09.000 75% of Mexicans now believe all Americans or white Americans are all racist. 0.84

02:35:15.000 When they have games, soccer games, in Mexico, and the Mexicans score, they chant, Osama, Osama.

02:35:22.000 And you've got this, that's, at the one level, you've got the very high thing working between Vicente Fox and Bush, Council on Foreign Relations, Kennedy, McCain, at that level.

02:35:33.000 But there's a different level as well, and you quoted that one individual, in the barrios, You find the Mecha is very, very popular among radical Mexican and Hispanic students.

02:35:44.000 They talk about the bronze continent, the bronze culture, and the bronze people.

02:35:48.000 This is our continent.

02:35:49.000 It's not yours. 0.78

02:35:50.000 You go back to Europe.

02:35:52.000 It is extremely militant.

02:35:55.000 It's the voice of La Mecha. 0.65

02:35:57.000 It is anti-white. 0.97

02:35:58.000 It is anti-Jewish.

02:36:00.000 And it talks about, you know, this land in the American Southwest is the original Aztlan, from which the Aztecs came to take over Mexico, and we're taking it back. 0.63

02:36:10.000 And then you've got the consuls and the intellectuals and the others who talk about the Reconquista.

02:36:18.000 We're reconquering the Southwest.

02:36:20.000 It is peaceful.

02:36:21.000 They talk about this magnificent project that's underway, the Reconquista.

02:36:25.000 And the truth is, native-born Americans are leaving California.

02:36:30.000 As the Hispanics and Chicanos pour in, native-born Californians are leaving. 1.00

02:36:36.000 They're moving over the mountains.

02:36:37.000 They're going to Idaho and Colorado.

02:36:39.000 In Arizona, the white population not only declines as a share of the population, but in real terms, it is falling.

02:36:47.000 For the first time since the Spanish Game, they're leaving California.

02:36:51.000 Now you can project these trends out to the middle of the century... But Pat, Pat, and I want to talk about those trends, and this is a key point you just brought up, but I want to go back and get that first statement commented on.

02:37:04.000 I mean, I have a CD here with hundreds of clips of professors and top leaders saying, we are going to kill you, all whites must be killed, and the media covers this up and universities finance this, and then they also chortle and laugh and say the whites are all dying, ha ha ha. 0.92

02:37:25.000 I've got that quote in my book. 0.99

02:37:27.000 If they're not having babies, they're You know, crapping in their pants and all this other stuff.

02:37:32.000 You've got all this kind of talk you get, and all these rants and things, most of them in my book, these are the people who, as I say, are the wild men of the barrios.

02:37:42.000 And they're more and more militant, and more and more hostile, and more and more chauvinistic, if you will, for their culture and the mestizo and the Amerindian populations.

02:37:56.000 And it is very much a racial thing.

02:38:00.000 Well, they tell you it is.

02:38:01.000 I mean, it's like the Ku Klux Klan.

02:38:03.000 I mean, it's the exact same thing.

02:38:04.000 Exactly, only the Ku Klux Klan doesn't have, can't get out 500,000 or a million people to march in Los Angeles under foreign flags in a matter of days.

02:38:15.000 Well, we have our government run by the globalists telling us, don't love the US, don't be patriotic, and at the same time, I was up in Canada during the World Cup, and there were Mexicans running around with huge flags in the streets, wild-eyed, screaming La Reconquista, and saying, I mean, I'm there covering Bilderberg Group, Pat, and there are people running past the Parliament with Mexican flags, saying Canada belongs to Mexico.

02:38:40.000 I think even the Spanish didn't get that far up.

02:38:44.000 The Canadians better wake up, I'll tell you that, Alex.

02:38:47.000 Well, exactly.

02:38:48.000 They've got 25% of their population now, or close to that, is foreign-born, which is even higher than the United States.

02:38:57.000 The five-year census just came out.

02:38:59.000 New York Times reported 60-plus percent of New York is foreign-born.

02:39:03.000 Most of those are illegal aliens.

02:39:05.000 Most major cities are over half illegal alien or foreigners. 0.96

02:39:10.000 I wonder why the Loricon Keystone Mexicans think Mexico is so good when they're one of the most corrupt, despotic systems anywhere. 1.00

02:39:18.000 You know, you ought to say to them, look, you love the country so much you march under its flags. 0.67

02:39:23.000 Go back to the country you love.

02:39:25.000 I mean, if it's that great a country, why did you leave it and come here?

02:39:28.000 And the truth is, they know they've got a corrupt regime and a failed regime, and I will say, the Mexican people are hard-working people, and they've not been rewarded.

02:39:37.000 They've been robbed again and again by their governments, which devalue their currency, in effect robbing the Mexican folks of their savings.

02:39:45.000 They've got an income down there of about 15% of what we get.

02:39:49.000 I understand why they're coming, but the point is, this is our home, this is our country, and they are not Americans, and they do not belong here. 1.00

02:39:57.000 Well, Pat Buchanan, I want to talk about solutions to fight this, but you just brought up a central thing.

02:40:02.000 I have a lot of Hispanic friends, hard-working, good, pro-family people, that even the liberal social engineering hasn't been able to break up their families and give them, you know, 90% of legitimacy like the poor black folks and 35% like the whites now. 0.96

02:40:15.000 So you've got the wild men of the barrios, as you say, being given county, state, federal funding, Ford Foundation money.

02:40:22.000 The elite, the CFR elite, you've talked about, paid for the comic books and the textbooks in Mexico, going back 30 years ago, saying that the Southwest belongs to Mexico.

02:40:31.000 And so they know exactly what they're doing.

02:40:34.000 They're coming in and trying to turn the Mexicans, as soon as they get here, into American haters.

02:40:39.000 So it goes right back to the CFR.

02:40:42.000 How do we stop these people?

02:40:44.000 Well, this is the time I must say, Alex, you've almost got me stumped here.

02:40:48.000 Look, when you get up in politics, you find when you get 70 or 80 percent of the people with you, the politicians for their own survival tend to move.

02:40:58.000 But they're not moving.

02:40:59.000 They're holding out and something's stopping them.

02:41:02.000 And the only thing I think that is that powerful is the K Street powers.

02:41:06.000 All that money are saying, look, In the Senate bill, there is a complete blanket pardon from all civil and criminal penalties for all businesses that hired illegals, as well as an amnesty for almost all the 12 million here.

02:41:21.000 And I think behind this, holding up a tough border security bill only, Holding that up, I think, are the corporations, because they've got the biggest stake in this thing.

02:41:33.000 They've got their guys at risk, a lot of these businessmen that hire people regularly.

02:41:38.000 They pay the tuition of both parties.

02:41:40.000 That seems to me to be the one big power that is behind the administration and the Congress refusing to act.

02:41:50.000 Pat Buchanan, I agree with you.

02:41:54.000 You were trying to get to the point about where we're going to be by 2050 if this continues.

02:41:58.000 Well, I think it's... Look, if you don't stop it now, you're going to have the Native... I mean, the Americans of European descent will be well under 50% of the population shrinking. 0.98

02:42:09.000 We will have... Most of them will have moved away from the major cities of the country.

02:42:12.000 Los Angeles will look like Mexico City.

02:42:15.000 The cities of Texas... Well, it already does.

02:42:18.000 What are you talking about?

02:42:18.000 Well, it already does.

02:42:19.000 But I'll tell you, the cities of Texas will...

02:42:22.000 Every city in America will look like Los Angeles today, and Los Angeles and the cities in the Southwest will look like Tijuana, Mexico City, and those cities like that.

02:42:32.000 And it's inevitable.

02:42:33.000 I mean, a hundred million?

02:42:35.000 Hispanics, that's not Pat Buchanan.

02:42:37.000 That's the Census Bureau.

02:42:39.000 102 million Hispanics in the U.S.

02:42:41.000 Twenty-five percent of the population by 2050.

02:42:43.000 And our government... Twenty million concentrated in the Southwest.

02:42:47.000 And our government financing the groups to make sure they hate the United States because they want to break up the U.S. 0.96

02:42:53.000 and have an American Union.

02:42:54.000 Look, it's simple.

02:42:54.000 The globalists have told us.

02:42:57.000 The middle class in this country was predominantly Chinese.

02:43:02.000 The government would be waging war against them.

02:43:05.000 The elites never want middle classes where you have upward mobility and where people aren't dependent on the government.

02:43:12.000 I've not seen numbers that high, but I will say this.

02:43:15.000 racial pride and all this stuff to hype people up.

02:43:17.000 But the truth is the middle class, whether you're black, white, or Hispanic, or Asian, is having war waged on it by the elite using a foreign invading army. 0.55

02:43:25.000 And 20-plus percent of the troops now in Iraq itself are these illegal aliens that sign up and then get citizenship by signing up.

02:43:34.000 Pat, have you seen those numbers?

02:43:35.000 I have not seen numbers that high, but I will say this.

02:43:38.000 I do believe that the American middle and working class of this country, as I wrote in the title of an earlier book, are victims of a great betrayal.

02:43:48.000 Their manufacturing jobs are being sent abroad.

02:43:52.000 Illegal aliens are coming, being invited into their country. 1.00

02:43:56.000 The products of China and things like that are pouring in, and American jobs are being lost. 0.87

02:44:01.000 They're bringing in H-1B's or bright young Indian kids or kids from Bangladesh to take the jobs of Americans who are no longer in the defense industries. 0.99

02:44:11.000 The middle class is under assault. 0.55

02:44:13.000 You saw today where the median income of Americans, despite rising productivity, has fallen 2% since 2003 when the so-called Bush recovery happened.

02:44:24.000 The middle class is falling behind, and the boys with the portfolios and the boys in the boardrooms are doing just fine.

02:44:33.000 Well, they are, and so this is really an elite, waging war on the population.

02:44:39.000 It is an elite, basically dismissing the interests and concerns, and frankly, the great concern of the middle class, they love the country.

02:44:48.000 They love America.

02:44:50.000 And the elites don't really care about that.

02:44:52.000 They look upon the American people as consumers.

02:44:55.000 They're all consumers.

02:44:56.000 Pat, what are some solutions to this fight?

02:44:58.000 How do we twist?

02:44:59.000 I mean, he worked in the White House.

02:45:00.000 How do we twist Bush's arm?

02:45:03.000 How do we twist the Democrats' arms?

02:45:04.000 How do we demand that they build a continuous wall?

02:45:08.000 How do we demand that we start massive deportations?

02:45:11.000 How do we demand that we start charging people with felonies who hire large groups of illegal aliens to work in their factories? 0.98

02:45:18.000 I think you're going to have to encourage folks at the state and local level to take action against illegal aliens and be very, very tough on it.

02:45:25.000 This will keep the issue in front of these people, frankly.

02:45:28.000 And then, come November, I think you go up to them and say, look, I don't care what you've done for me in the past.

02:45:34.000 You vote for amnesty.

02:45:35.000 You vote for the guest worker program.

02:45:37.000 And you oppose a security fence along the border, and I'm going to vote against you, and I'm going to work against you, and we're going to defeat you.

02:45:44.000 And if you're a Republican, too bad.

02:45:46.000 We'll maybe get in Republicans who believe more in preserving this country.

02:45:51.000 That is it.

02:45:51.000 This is the ballot.

02:45:53.000 This is the single vote on which we're going to hold you accountable.

02:45:58.000 And I think that, I mean, obviously the establishment's got to know that if things are already this heated in 2006, what's it going to be like in 5, 10 years?

02:46:06.000 I mean, this is going to get... This book of mine, I'll tell you, the book is, you know, The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America.

02:46:12.000 This issue is going to be here in 2006, 2008, 2010.

02:46:17.000 Because the whole world is coming.

02:46:19.000 They're coming to that southern border. 0.79

02:46:21.000 The Mexicans aren't going to stop coming. 1.00

02:46:22.000 They're not going to stop being pushed into the country. 0.99

02:46:25.000 There's six billion people that want to come here.

02:46:27.000 We can't have them all here.

02:46:29.000 Folks, you don't want to live like they do in India or they do in Mexico City. 1.00

02:46:32.000 Travel there.

02:46:33.000 Look at it for yourself.

02:46:34.000 It's hell on earth.

02:46:36.000 And people say, well, let them come here and then that'll, you know, take the heat off the other countries.

02:46:40.000 We could take 50 million a year and it wouldn't even touch global third world population growth.

02:46:46.000 You know, let me tell you.

02:46:47.000 Alex, each 18 months, the third world adds the equivalent of an entire Mexico in population. 0.91

02:46:56.000 100 million people are added to third world populations every 18 months.

02:47:02.000 We're going to have 3 billion more people by 2050 in this world than you have now.

02:47:08.000 And all of them know now The place to go is the good old USA. 0.52

02:47:13.000 You don't get deported.

02:47:15.000 You don't get roughed up.

02:47:16.000 You can have welfare.

02:47:18.000 You might be able to get a job, which you can make ten times what you made at home.

02:47:21.000 Pat, let me bring this up real quick.

02:47:22.000 I want to come back in front of you.

02:47:23.000 I have one or two calls in.

02:47:24.000 I'm sorry we haven't gone to your calls yet.

02:47:25.000 Loaded phones here.

02:47:27.000 Uh, we had four cases of leprosy until 2004.

02:47:30.000 Now we've had 7,000.

02:47:31.000 They have a leper colony in East Texas.

02:47:34.000 TB is exploding everywhere.

02:47:36.000 I mean, at least they tested people, even Europeans, everybody coming in at Ellis Island.

02:47:40.000 Now, it's just people can walk off planes with leprosy splattering all over the place, and it's just, like, wonderful.

02:47:45.000 I mean, this is insane!

02:47:47.000 Well, I saw over the weekend, Drudge had a report.

02:47:50.000 12 or 13 cases of bubonic plague they found.

02:47:54.000 TB.

02:47:55.000 Immigrant children are a hundred times more likely to be carrying TB into the classroom than native-born American children.

02:48:02.000 One in every seven East Asians in New York City, that's a hundred thousand people, has tuberculosis. 0.90

02:48:09.000 You've got dengue fever.

02:48:11.000 You've got Chagas's disease coming in.

02:48:13.000 You've got malaria coming in.

02:48:15.000 Things we cured and things we never had in America.

02:48:17.000 You read reports of bed bugs.

02:48:19.000 Found in all these states.

02:48:21.000 Where do they think they're coming?

02:48:22.000 The illegal aliens go through no check whatsoever. 0.89

02:48:25.000 They come in and they bring these with them.

02:48:27.000 Again, and the media keeps it almost completely quiet because they've got to do it to break down the republic.

02:48:35.000 The country is under attack.

02:48:36.000 George Bush is directing those attacks with his neocon traitors.

02:48:40.000 We'll be right back.

02:48:41.000 Final segment with Pat Buchanan to take a few of your calls.

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02:49:49.000 What?

02:49:49.000 Again?

02:49:50.000 We just stopped two hours ago.

02:49:52.000 Honey, let's stop, because I gave the kids their Spark Berkey water bottles. 1.00

02:49:57.000 Why did you do that?

02:49:58.000 Because they can't drink and talk at the same time, and that way we don't have to listen to them singing, Are we there yet?

02:50:04.000 Are we there yet?

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02:50:07.000 Hmm, I didn't think about that.

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02:51:54.000 It's so important to understand that the New World Order has to destroy the United States to get their world government.

02:52:00.000 Pat Buchanan, do you think the globalists are overplaying their hand and that they're not going to be able to carry out their American Union and open borders and the rest of it?

02:52:08.000 Or will they just crack down with their police state and enforce the destruction of this country?

02:52:14.000 I believe that the American people are so aroused here and they're so... I mean, they're so intently patriotic and against these ideas Of merging America with another country.

02:52:26.000 I think we've got a fighting chance on this one.

02:52:29.000 The President, I think if the Republicans do not secure these borders, I think they're going to be wiped out.

02:52:35.000 Now, the Democrats aren't going to do it either, but you'll get a new kind of Republican Party coming.

02:52:41.000 You got to get rid of all the Rockefeller New World Order Republicans?

02:52:44.000 Oh yeah, that's the only way to do it.

02:52:45.000 I mean, you've got the Crystals and the Weekly Standard crowd and all the rest of them.

02:52:51.000 Lobbyists for La Raza there.

02:52:52.000 You got Karl Rove going out speaking to La Raza, competing with Clinton.

02:52:58.000 For heaven's sakes!

02:52:59.000 Let's take a call.

02:53:00.000 Sean in Arizona.

02:53:01.000 You're on the air with Pat Buchanan.

02:53:03.000 Hi, glad to be on the show, Pat.

02:53:05.000 I have Mexican-American friends here in Arizona, and I was talking to one, and he is just up in arms about these La Raza people coming in, saying that this is Mexico, and in his opinion, If this doesn't get taken care of, the citizens of Arizona, including naturalized Mexicans, are going to start taking care of it themselves.

02:53:28.000 Well, you know, that's an excellent point.

02:53:31.000 47% of Mexican-Americans in Arizona voted in favor of Proposition 200, which requires folks to prove they belong here before they get social welfare benefits.

02:53:44.000 Yet the whole Republican delegation Opposed it, as did the Democratic Governor and all the elites there.

02:53:50.000 But Mexican-Americans are patriotic people, they're hard-working people, they have great values, many of them belong to the same faith as I do.

02:53:58.000 And I've talked to them and they're upset because everybody was getting along before, now millions of people are running around saying they're going to kill whites and it's causing friction.

02:54:05.000 Exactly, and I can't imagine people tramping around under foreign flags. 1.00

02:54:09.000 These folks have lived under the American flag, many of them have fought under the American flag.

02:54:15.000 And the idea that these people are coming in and representing themselves as, you know, somehow Mexican-Americans is preposterous! 0.71

02:54:22.000 Final caller, Caleb in Texas.

02:54:24.000 You're on the air with Pat Buchanan with the new book, State of Emergency.

02:54:26.000 Go ahead.

02:54:27.000 Hello, gentlemen.

02:54:28.000 Pat Buchanan, one question.

02:54:29.000 9-11 and George Bush's war on terror is indeed legitimate. 1.00

02:54:33.000 Why wasn't the border totally militarily secured on September 12, 2001?

02:54:39.000 It's because George Bush He doesn't want to secure that border.

02:54:44.000 I do believe he wants an open border between the United States and Mexico.

02:54:48.000 He does not share the concern of a lot of us that this is a national security problem.

02:54:54.000 Pat, won't he just get more power if there's another terror attack?

02:54:57.000 That he can take more American liberties?

02:54:59.000 I think if the terrorists have come across that Mexican border, I think his place in history is finished.

02:55:06.000 But my point is, if he got so much power out of 9-11 and got the grandstand... Right.

02:55:11.000 Well, look, there's no doubt about it.

02:55:12.000 I mean, war is the health of the state.

02:55:14.000 You know it as well as I do, Alex.

02:55:16.000 So do you agree with me that they could try to spin it, even though common sense, we would see if there was another attack, they could kind of spin it and ignore the border issue, and Bush could get even more power out of it?

02:55:26.000 Well, yeah, sure, sure.

02:55:28.000 And put in a lot more laws and things like that.

02:55:31.000 But I do think people would say, look, You did not seal that border, just as the caller said.

02:55:36.000 When you had three or four, you had four years, or five years to do it, you didn't do it.

02:55:41.000 And now we got hit again.

02:55:43.000 You are responsible this time.

02:55:45.000 Eisenhower sealed it, and deported a million.

02:55:48.000 Eisenhower sealed it, and Operation Wetback.

02:55:51.000 Sure he did, he saw a threat to the country, he said, what's going on down there?

02:55:54.000 And he sent another general, Joseph Mays, he said, you know, deal with this, Joe!

02:55:59.000 And again, people try to say that term is racist.

02:56:02.000 They turn every term into racism.

02:56:03.000 It just means you swam over the river.

02:56:05.000 Exactly, or you waded across, for heaven's sakes.

02:56:08.000 Yeah, but they would call it that because they'd catch people at the border.

02:56:10.000 They'd be wet.

02:56:11.000 Pat Buchanan, thank you.

02:56:12.000 Your book's number one state of emergency.

02:56:14.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:56:15.000 Hope to talk to you again soon.

02:56:16.000 Thank you.

02:56:17.000 God bless.

02:56:18.000 All right.

02:56:18.000 Back tonight, 9 to Midnight.

02:56:19.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:21.000 Get Terror Storm at InfoWars.com.

Alex Jones Show - November 24, 2006

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