Alex Jones Show - 20061226_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 We've got David Shaler, former MI5 agent, joining us in the second hour on this Friday joining us in the second hour on this Friday edition.

00:00:40.000 Amen.

00:00:40.000 and And coming up for part of the third hour, we have the documentary filmmaker who finally completed the documentary.

00:00:46.000 It was almost about eight, nine months ago.

00:00:49.000 concerning what really happened in New Orleans.

00:00:51.000 We're going to be putting up some of those video clips from his film over the interview we'll be doing today.

00:00:58.000 It'll take about a week to put it together, but we'll post that up on the web.

00:01:02.000 It should be extremely informative to expose the cover-up that took place there a year plus ago.

00:01:11.000 Let's go ahead and jump straight into the news.

00:01:13.000 Top-level insiders selling their stock.

00:01:18.000 This is out of the New York Post.

00:01:21.000 Scope of the Second Amendment is being questioned in a federal court case seeking to overturn the Second Amendment.

00:01:32.000 Don't put it past them.

00:01:33.000 They're not playing games.

00:01:36.000 Also, and you watch, Hannity and others will call it liberal if you don't turn your guns in.

00:01:41.000 I mean, that's... I'm not kidding when I say that.

00:01:45.000 High school in Irvine, California drops plan to scan fingerprints because the parents got angry.

00:01:51.000 Another victory.

00:01:53.000 You see, now the public's getting informed about this and they know what it entails, or at least they know part of the story and they don't like it.

00:02:03.000 You know, the last few days I've been talking about the Associated Press article concerning the fact that the vaccines have had the level of mercury increased.

00:02:13.000 And the Food and Drug Administration will do nothing to even warn the people or move to have it taken out, removed from the vaccines.

00:02:23.000 And I mentioned how every year when school starts, they threaten everyone with being suspended from school and then they criminally charge you with truancy after they suspend you and that's been overturned in court, but they still do it color of law because the system's criminal.

00:02:39.000 We've also talked about how everything we do in the U.S.

00:02:42.000 is done in Canada, is done in Australia, England, New Zealand, even with the same names.

00:02:48.000 Here's a story out of Canada.

00:02:51.000 Students who don't have up-to-date vaccinations will be suspended.

00:02:56.000 And I checked into Canadian law.

00:02:58.000 They have the very same waivers.

00:02:59.000 There is no law.

00:03:01.000 It's color of law, but then after they suspend or expel you, then they come to arrest you for truancy.

00:03:10.000 That'd be like a cop putting a gun to your head and telling you to walk out in traffic, and then when you did, they gave you a jaywalking ticket.

00:03:17.000 I mean, it's pretty amazing.

00:03:22.000 So, we'll get into that report.

00:03:24.000 Also, Lew Rockwell's made a stab at getting into airport hustlers.

00:03:33.000 Now, five major airports, I guess now six, It makes the news every time a new one goes in.

00:03:39.000 They make you walk through a system that shows your naked body.

00:03:42.000 What no one seems to be mentioning here that's in the industry publications is they're recording your naked image.

00:03:50.000 They're not just standing around looking at you naked and your family naked.

00:03:55.000 They are recording it, so I guess we need to get a report out on this.

00:04:00.000 The fact is, everything that is run through the x-rays at this time is stored on 24-hour loop tape.

00:04:07.000 That was in the past, now digitally stored on hard drives.

00:04:11.000 And these new systems, they admit, are directly hooked in to hard drives that are recording your entire 360 body image naked.

00:04:21.000 So, You might as well, I mean, if you've got the body, go sign up with Playboy and make some money.

00:04:27.000 I'm being sarcastic here.

00:04:28.000 This is the humiliation, and you think it's bad now.

00:04:34.000 It's only going to get worse and worse.

00:04:37.000 In Illinois, they're doing home inspections unannounced, without warrants.

00:04:43.000 It's just a home inspection.

00:04:45.000 Everybody gets one.

00:04:47.000 We told you a long time ago this would happen.

00:04:50.000 This has been happening for a long time.

00:04:53.000 Alright, that's just some of the news.

00:04:55.000 Details are all coming up.

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00:07:58.000 Big Brother.

00:08:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:25.000 We've got former MI5 agent David Shaler joining us.

00:08:31.000 He blew the whistle.

00:08:34.000 Back in the late 90s on MI6, funding Al Qaeda to carry out terror operations.

00:08:45.000 He's now done more and more research and gone public on the fact that he believes 7-7 is an inside job.

00:08:50.000 9-11 total inside job.

00:08:52.000 He's in my film Terror Storm.

00:08:54.000 He's going to be joining us to give us his analysis on the affair with all the people that have been poisoned now by this particular radioactive isotope.

00:09:07.000 And he's coming up in the second hour.

00:09:09.000 He made it on National Sky Television for a lengthy, it's like a 30-minute interview, and we're just going to play a short clip in the second hour where he's talking about false flag inside job concerning 9-11-7-7.

00:09:23.000 In fact, he talks about false flags three or four times in all these clips.

00:09:27.000 We can't play it all, but that is coming up.

00:09:33.000 In the meantime, let me just briefly run through the top stories, and I've got a few audio clips I want to play.

00:09:40.000 I remember, back after the first World Trade Center bombing, being up late at night, and the phone rang, and one of my friends said, it was actually Jeff Davis, said, you need to tune in to CBS, because on their overnight show, I think it was like in an hour, he said, Why that detail matters, it doesn't.

00:10:05.000 The point is, I got a call from a friend saying, tune in, CBS News says they've got a report about what really happened on the first World Trade Center attack in 93.

00:10:19.000 Now, we already had the New York Times, we already had the LA Times, we already had local New York reports, and it was hidden in plain view, right there in the stories, that the FBI cooked the bomb.

00:10:32.000 Trained the drivers, gave them the detonators, and when their informant, first the informant was hired because he spoke Arabic, he was a slash Egyptian slash US CIA asset, agent, and that's all admitted, Ahmad Salam, he was hired to come over and first build a dummy bomb. 0.66

00:10:58.000 Then they said, well we want it to be a real bomb.

00:11:01.000 And then, oh, we wanted to have a real detonator.

00:11:05.000 And he protested that, but they encouraged him to and promised that they just wanted the convictions to stick.

00:11:13.000 And then he thought they were setting him up, because three days before the bombing, he went in and said, OK, it's built, let's go bust them.

00:11:21.000 And they said, no, we're pulling you off the case.

00:11:23.000 And he said, well, I'm going to call the police.

00:11:24.000 And they said, no, no, don't do that.

00:11:26.000 We're following orders from higher up.

00:11:29.000 Just stand down.

00:11:30.000 And there were over 11 hours in those three days of arguments with Maud Salaam and the head of the FBI in New York and others.

00:11:40.000 And he knew he was being set up, so he recorded them, and then after the bombing, he went and what did he get, $1.3 million in a settlement that they gave him to shut up.

00:11:53.000 So, this is a classic provocateur action, and because it didn't work well for the Feds, they just purely carried out the attacks on 9-11.

00:12:06.000 Now, I remember seeing that newscast right when it broke, and they were talking about the FBI cooking the bomb, training the drivers.

00:12:14.000 We have never been able to find that exact clip, though those issues were admitted in the New York Times and LA Times.

00:12:23.000 uh... right at that same time we did today discovered On YouTube.

00:12:30.000 Who knows how long it'll be up there.

00:12:32.000 A CBS Nightly News piece that came out months and months after the attacks when the defense was trying to use this issue in the court case against Sheikh Abdul Rahman and others.

00:12:50.000 And then the argument is by the prosecutors, well you're not allowed to have these 11 hours of tapes.

00:12:56.000 You're not, which by the way, the clips you're going to hear were made public because Salam did release some of them before they paid him off to shut up.

00:13:05.000 And then the media spins it like, well, just because the government could have stopped them doesn't mean they're not culpable.

00:13:12.000 Which would be reasonable on the surface, but this isn't a sting or entrapment.

00:13:17.000 This is a provocateur action where they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers and gave them the detonators and then let them go ahead with it.

00:13:25.000 And this thing was organized from the start.

00:13:28.000 They went and hired Salam and then had him go in and provocateur the entire action and they had other informants inside as well.

00:13:38.000 So this is like if I go out and find some mentally retarded individual, like Forrest Gump, and convince them to go rob a bank, and then later I end up being the government who arrests them, and then Forrest Gump's lawyers bring up in the trial, well you went and told him to rob the bank, and told him it was a game, and told him it was going to be fun, and I use the example of Forrest Gump, one had an IQ of 75, the other of 80, 0.99

00:14:10.000 80 is a low-grade moron. 0.99

00:14:12.000 75 is retarded. 1.00

00:14:13.000 It's not deeply retarded, but 70 is seriously retarded. 0.99

00:14:18.000 60 is basically you can't have any type of even discussion with someone with a 60-65 IQ.

00:14:27.000 The point is it's all on record. 0.99

00:14:28.000 They went into a place above a pizza parlor with a blind cleric who was completely nuts and should have been deported, who was yelling and screaming, kill the infidels. 1.00

00:14:41.000 I mean, they know who to profile. 0.98

00:14:42.000 So you go into it, instead of arresting him for terroristic threats and inciting violence and riot and rapine, instead of deporting him back to Egypt, instead of getting rid of these people, oh no, we got a perfect group of crazies! 0.79

00:14:59.000 Let's cook a big old bomb and let's go park it right up against the main support column. 0.81

00:15:05.000 Thank God that the It was a catch-22. 0.99

00:15:10.000 They had to find people so dumb, so retarded, and I'm not attacking retarded people, folks. 0.99

00:15:16.000 It's very sad. 1.00

00:15:16.000 I'm just saying they were retarded. 1.00

00:15:18.000 You know, in this politically correct world, you're not even supposed to say that word. 0.98

00:15:23.000 But it was a catch-22.

00:15:24.000 They were able to get the bombing to go forward because they were retarded, but because they were retarded, even though they had feds in there that day directing traffic, this came out in the news by the way, trying to keep people from parking in the parking garage up against the main central spire column. 0.95

00:15:41.000 So the theory was if they blew that, it would structurally damage the entire building and they'd have to tear the building down.

00:15:47.000 It might have even made it collapse.

00:15:49.000 But they didn't park it up against the column and so when the explosion went off it didn't have the pounds pressure it needed to even damage the column and then it would have killed nine people and several thousand got smoke inhalation.

00:16:01.000 But I'm already digressing.

00:16:03.000 I've got to move quick here.

00:16:05.000 This is just, this is a open and shut, cut and dry, red-handed orgy of evidence where we have the government dead to rights.

00:16:17.000 So here's Dan Rather uh... from the early nineteen nineties during the trial and this is a whitewash piece but the truth is still hidden in plain view.

00:16:28.000 Here it is.

00:16:29.000 Last winter the FBI was praised for its speed in cracking the case of the World Trade Center bombing and bringing four suspects to trial.

00:16:37.000 Now there is some evidence that the FBI may have known of the plot in advance through an informant and might, might even have stopped the bombing that killed six people.

00:16:47.000 Correspondent Jacqueline Adams has the story.

00:16:51.000 FBI agents might have been able to prevent last February's deadly explosion at New York's World Trade Center.

00:16:57.000 They discussed secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, but they didn't, according to the FBI's own informant, Imad Salem.

00:17:06.000 Unbeknownst to the FBI at the time, Salem recorded many of his conversations with his handlers.

00:17:11.000 I'm holding 903 pages of draft transcripts.

00:17:16.000 William Kunstler represents Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman and several others charged with conspiring to blow up a series of New York City landmarks four months after the World Trade Center bombing.

00:17:26.000 That case has not yet gone to trial.

00:17:29.000 Kunstler confirmed newspaper reports of the Salem transcripts.

00:17:33.000 In one, Salem complains to an FBI agent, Since the bomb went off, I feel terrible.

00:17:38.000 I feel bad.

00:17:39.000 I feel here is people who don't listen.

00:17:42.000 The agent replied, Hey, I mean, it wasn't like you didn't try and I didn't try.

00:17:46.000 You can't force people to do the right thing.

00:17:49.000 There is material in here to show gross governmental misconduct.

00:17:52.000 Today, attorneys for the defendants in the ongoing World Trade Center bombing case formally asked for the transcripts of Solemn's tapes.

00:18:00.000 Quite frankly, it's beyond me why now, the fourth week into the trial, we still don't have these materials.

00:18:08.000 Prosecutors have refused to comment publicly, but legal experts say the defense may have no right to those transcripts.

00:18:15.000 It's not a defense to a crime to say, if only the government had stopped me, I wouldn't have done it.

00:18:21.000 So this isn't material that ordinarily the defense would be entitled to.

00:18:25.000 In court today, a witness from the Ford Motor Company linked debris recovered from the explosion site to a Ford van where defendant Mohamed Salama was arrested less than a week after the bombing.

00:18:35.000 Jacqueline Adams, CBS News, New York.

00:18:40.000 And that's off an old VHS tape, and they wear out to where each time it loops.

00:18:44.000 Some areas have a good audio track, some don't.

00:18:46.000 That's why it went up and down.

00:18:47.000 And the media today says nine died.

00:18:51.000 That's the number I go off of.

00:18:52.000 I don't know why they said six back then.

00:18:54.000 Who knows what the truth is?

00:18:56.000 But that's an example of how they whitewash something.

00:19:01.000 They talk about a transcript and tapes he made in the days after the attack, not the tapes he made before, where it clearly came out that he cooked the bomb, he trained the drivers, they gave him the detonators, he didn't want to make a real bomb, the government said make a real bomb, he then complained and said, bust them, stop them, they're gonna bomb it!

00:19:21.000 And they just said, stand down!

00:19:23.000 But by the time it gets on CBS News, And the report I saw, right after it happened, was much more hardcore.

00:19:29.000 That slipped through the censors, I guess, that late in the evening.

00:19:35.000 But there's another example of it, and it's just forgotten in history.

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00:24:07.000 All right, welcome back.

00:24:13.000 Thank you.

00:24:15.000 I want to get into what's happening with the Iraq Study Group and just comment on the ridiculous theatrical fraud we're all witnessing that Shakespeare would blush at, that Goebbels would blush at, just the level of propaganda. 0.84

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00:24:36.000 This is not, not, not good.

00:24:39.000 Not good at all.

00:24:44.000 But first off, what we do here on this broadcast is we attempt to break the regional news monopoly.

00:24:54.000 There are so many stories that are in small towns or even big cities that never get outside the town, the region, that other Americans don't hear about.

00:25:03.000 But what we're able to do by giving you the big picture and then zooming in to the You know, local level, and then zooming back out, you show how the exact same thing is happening worldwide, even under the same names, similar program titles.

00:25:19.000 It's part of a larger global operation.

00:25:24.000 And we have the documents showing that, the standardization of all of this tyranny, but there's nothing like actually witnessing it.

00:25:33.000 And so, all over this country, Thousands and thousands, it's in the thousands, and you heard Dr. Doug Rocky on talking about this, of the troops from Gulf War I, Gulf War II, you hear the military people call in here going, yeah, they gave us shots and the whole barracks got sick and people broke out and had to go to the hospital and parents call in and say, yeah, my son took it and had a rapid autoimmune reaction and was dead in two weeks.

00:26:02.000 And so at the end of this newscast, when you hear, oh, this just happens to a few people in a million, that's a lie.

00:26:10.000 Remember, almost four years ago they announced that 14 million first responders, all police, all firemen, all nurses, all doctors, all medical workers, most city employees, county employees, state employees, had to take the smallpox shot.

00:26:29.000 And Tommy Thompson said how great it was, Health and Human Services.

00:26:33.000 It's like he's out saying, and on the payroll of Applied Digital, saying take a microchip.

00:26:38.000 He's giving high school and middle school and elementary school speeches, saying every child needs a chip.

00:26:42.000 You're doubting me?

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00:26:44.000 It's mainstream news.

00:26:46.000 Well, he said everybody needs a smallpox shot.

00:26:50.000 And he said you have to take it.

00:26:51.000 Now, it's just like with the children in school.

00:26:54.000 There was no law, and we had sheriffs and police chiefs and fire chiefs on who were against it.

00:27:01.000 And they said, no, all they do is they come in and say, well, our insurance says we have to have it.

00:27:05.000 It's a policy.

00:27:06.000 You've got to take it or you're fired.

00:27:09.000 Well, the only group they could force to take it was the military.

00:27:12.000 And they did force them to take it.

00:27:14.000 And when they just vaccinated the first hundred thousand, hundreds died.

00:27:20.000 Hundreds had heart attacks.

00:27:22.000 Hundreds more had really bad side effects.

00:27:26.000 And that came out regionally in the news.

00:27:28.000 The word got out.

00:27:30.000 The police, the firemen, everybody said no.

00:27:33.000 So they were able to vaccinate 4,000 out of 14 million first responders in this country.

00:27:39.000 The headline in the LA Times was something like, Smallpox Program Fails.

00:27:45.000 Suspended.

00:27:46.000 We covered it on air.

00:27:49.000 It was a big victory for us.

00:27:51.000 I would talk to cops.

00:27:52.000 I remember talking to cops in gas stations getting coffee going, Hey, you guys going to take the smallpox?

00:27:57.000 No, we heard about that.

00:27:58.000 We're not taking it.

00:28:01.000 And I'd say, do you know who I am?

00:28:02.000 No, who are you?

00:28:03.000 Oh, good, you don't know who I am.

00:28:04.000 I wanted to make sure you weren't fans of the show.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, the stuff's real deadly.

00:28:07.000 Go to Infowars.com.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, we already know.

00:28:10.000 We already said we're not taking it.

00:28:12.000 See, they tell you you have to.

00:28:14.000 You just say no!

00:28:15.000 When we get back, I'm going to play this clip of somebody in the military who couldn't say no.

00:28:22.000 And he still is so Well-meaning and so gullible and such a good person.

00:28:30.000 Our cribs are such good people on average that he doesn't even blame the government.

00:28:34.000 He can't walk.

00:28:38.000 Can't walk.

00:28:40.000 But that's okay.

00:28:41.000 Who was the big reporter that the smallpox shot and then that night had a heart attack and died?

00:28:45.000 That's one of the, it causes a huge autoimmune response.

00:28:49.000 You basically go into shock and have a cardiac arrest.

00:28:52.000 And that's the lucky ones that go quick. 0.90

00:28:54.000 A lot of them swell up black pusses out of every orifice.

00:28:58.000 And then a bunch of other people get smallpox.

00:29:00.000 It's live smallpox.

00:29:02.000 It's just been weakened with a burst of radiation.

00:29:05.000 A lot of times they don't cook it enough.

00:29:10.000 And then, top epidemiologists, top virologists, top experts went public, top bacteriologists, people just across the spectrum who know what pathogens do said, wait a minute, this covers the old strain of smallpox.

00:29:24.000 There's a bunch of different strains and if we get hit it's going to be weaponized.

00:29:29.000 And about one out of a hundred people are going to get smallpox.

00:29:31.000 It'll actually cause a new outbreak of something that's been extincted worldwide.

00:29:40.000 We'll be right back and play this clip and get into all the other news.

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00:33:23.000 Welcome back.

00:33:46.000 All right, let's go ahead and go to this clip.

00:33:51.000 And listen carefully to it, what happened to this young man.

00:33:58.000 And then at the end, they lie.

00:34:00.000 Of course, the reporter probably doesn't know that.

00:34:03.000 They get a little press release from the government telling them, oh, this only hurts a couple people out of a million.

00:34:11.000 But we know what happened with the troops.

00:34:12.000 We know what happened with the 4,000 that took it.

00:34:15.000 There were here in the U.S.

00:34:17.000 who weren't in the military.

00:34:18.000 It was a huge disaster.

00:34:20.000 They had to suspend it.

00:34:22.000 But they now have brought it back in the last six months.

00:34:25.000 Experimental illegal.

00:34:27.000 It's already been ruled illegal by federal judges, even for the troops.

00:34:30.000 Anthrax and smallpox.

00:34:32.000 And by the way, they've got a huge history of testing all sorts of other things on you and not even telling you what it is.

00:34:40.000 So let's go ahead and play this clip.

00:34:43.000 A vaccine meant to protect military troops left one Ozarks Marine fighting for his life.

00:34:47.000 Good evening, thanks for joining us.

00:34:49.000 I'm Timothy Albo.

00:34:49.000 And I'm Paula Morehouse.

00:34:51.000 A 20-year-old Springfield man is relearning how to walk after a smallpox vaccine left him paralyzed.

00:34:57.000 Joseph Lopez had only been serving Iraq for one week when he suddenly lost all ability to move.

00:35:03.000 Now he's in the hospital recovering.

00:35:05.000 But as KY3's Michelle Sherwood reports, his family has taken some hard falls along the way.

00:35:11.000 He's got the heart of a young man and the determination of a Marine.

00:35:15.000 I didn't know sit-ups would be so hard.

00:35:18.000 Every day I could feel myself getting a little bit better.

00:35:21.000 Joe Lopez is undergoing physical therapy at St.

00:35:24.000 John's Hospital in Springfield.

00:35:27.000 The things that used to be second nature to him now take serious concentration.

00:35:35.000 It doesn't really get through.

00:35:36.000 You're thinking, I should be able to do this, but I can't.

00:35:38.000 Just seven weeks ago, Joe was a healthy young Marine serving in Iraq, but that quickly changed.

00:35:44.000 Overnight, I couldn't go to sleep, and things just got worse, and by the morning I couldn't move my legs at all.

00:35:51.000 He was rushed to a hospital in Germany, where his mom couldn't believe her eyes.

00:35:56.000 I knew it was going to look pretty bad.

00:35:58.000 And he did.

00:35:59.000 He did.

00:36:00.000 They told me the only reaction they'd gotten out of him was he had opened his eyes.

00:36:04.000 Doctors were baffled at first, but then they told him what had caused his sudden paralysis.

00:36:10.000 The smallpox shot.

00:36:11.000 So it was an immunization and then it made my body attack itself.

00:36:15.000 There.

00:36:16.000 That's it.

00:36:17.000 Right there.

00:36:20.000 As tough as this is for Joe, he believes it happened for a good reason.

00:36:24.000 To see his dad.

00:36:25.000 He was in the hospital the day I got here.

00:36:27.000 So I got to see him that day.

00:36:30.000 And when I left for Iraq, I thought I'd never get to see him again, you know, so I did get to see him one last time.

00:36:36.000 And it's kind of weird how this smallpox thing brought me home.

00:36:39.000 Joe's dad died on Thanksgiving.

00:36:41.000 It's kind of hard.

00:36:42.000 Joe's lost a lot in a short amount of time. 1.00

00:36:44.000 It's, uh, made me realize how stupid little things are. 0.99

00:36:49.000 And he says he'll get some of that back, one step at a time. 0.99

00:36:55.000 Michelle Sherwood, KY3 News.

00:36:58.000 Now the CDC reports that out of one million people, less than 55 will have a serious reaction to the smallpox vaccine.

00:37:04.000 As for Joe, he hopes to be on crutches.

00:37:08.000 Okay, he hopes to be on crutches.

00:37:10.000 The guy can't walk. 0.92

00:37:12.000 He swole up black with pus squirting out everywhere. 0.81

00:37:14.000 That's the video. 0.56

00:37:17.000 That's what happens.

00:37:19.000 And most people die.

00:37:21.000 He's pretty tough.

00:37:24.000 Of course they knew in Rammstein what was doing it.

00:37:26.000 The troops come in every day.

00:37:29.000 Folks, sometimes entire companies can't get up after they take these shots.

00:37:35.000 And believe me, it may not even have been smallpox.

00:37:38.000 They are testing just, you name it, bioweapons, experimental drugs, aggression drugs, amnesia drugs, that's admitted on them.

00:37:48.000 And so how is this supporting the troops?

00:37:50.000 How do you support The troops by supporting a government that illegally is doing human experimentation on them.

00:37:59.000 Because even if you signed a military commitment form, you still do not waive your rights for human experimentation.

00:38:08.000 That's the federal and state law and it's common sense.

00:38:11.000 But they don't care!

00:38:12.000 The government violates its own laws every single millisecond.

00:38:17.000 And so they get experimental anthrax, and experimental smallpox, and a whole other cocktail to the troops.

00:38:27.000 And the reporters and the contractors who were over there, they roll their sleeves up and do it too, and they die en masse.

00:38:35.000 So how is it supporting our troops?

00:38:38.000 Staging a war that is designed to break the country up, designed to create balkanization, designed to cause a civil war, and then to just keep our troops there? 0.74

00:38:49.000 It's disgusting!

00:38:52.000 The people who claim they support our troops really don't support our troops. 0.97

00:38:56.000 They just get to feel good and have the media pat them on the head to support the war and feeding our troops into a meat grinder.

00:39:09.000 Meanwhile, we always talk about the false left-right paradigm, but you could expand it to the false bipolar paradigm, where the globalists will have both people, both sides, both groups working for them, but then they will have those two groups have a perceived fight, a fake fight.

00:39:27.000 You know, it's the old classic scam where the good-looking woman, you know, this is how they do robberies, it happens all the time, she acts like she's fighting with her husband, or the boyfriend's beating her up, and then the, you know, the guy with the Mercedes puts her in the car, and then she pulls a gun on him and says, pull over here, and the guy that was acting like he was beating her up is waiting, and they go ahead and carjack him and, you know, put him in the trunk, or kill him, or if he's lucky, pistol whip him and throw him in the ditch.

00:39:57.000 Or, you know, the more popular, uh, watered-down type, good cop, bad cop. 1.00

00:40:01.000 I'm gonna take you in!

00:40:02.000 You're going to prison, boy!

00:40:04.000 Better answer my questions about where the drugs are! 0.99

00:40:06.000 I'm gonna, I'm gonna throttle ya! 0.86

00:40:08.000 And the other cop comes over and goes, Hey, hey! 0.98

00:40:10.000 Stop it, Bill!

00:40:11.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:40:12.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:40:12.000 Come on! 0.99

00:40:13.000 Come on! 0.61

00:40:13.000 Let's be reasonable! 0.61

00:40:14.000 Listen, listen.

00:40:16.000 He's had a bad day.

00:40:17.000 He just, uh, just tell me if you got any drugs and we'll throw them out.

00:40:23.000 We'll just, we'll just get rid of them.

00:40:26.000 Or if you're honest with him, he may not take you in.

00:40:31.000 Just go ahead and tell me.

00:40:32.000 Okay, this is how they do it.

00:40:35.000 Another example, a good cop, bad cop.

00:40:38.000 I've used the example the last few weeks because it's a good one.

00:40:41.000 We all know who have children.

00:40:43.000 You say, okay, you can read two more books or you can read one more book, but then you've got to go to bed.

00:40:49.000 Now, you know, the children may cry or get upset if they're apt to do that.

00:40:55.000 If you just say one more and that's it, or no more books, no, you just give them a fake choice.

00:40:59.000 One book or two books.

00:41:01.000 Or you can stay up and, or you can play outside the backyard for five more minutes or ten more minutes.

00:41:09.000 And your plan all along was to get them in within fifteen minutes for dinner.

00:41:14.000 Or you can stay at your friend's house until eight or eight-thirty.

00:41:18.000 Okay, this is just basic psychology, and it's used on adults every day.

00:41:24.000 It's used in advertising, and I, frankly, am sick of it.

00:41:27.000 I mean, they laugh at you, folks.

00:41:29.000 James Baker, George Bush, Sr., Henry Kissinger.

00:41:32.000 Henry Kissinger, it's turned out, for at least the last six years was at the White House every month, secretly coming in and blacked out, you know, limo or Now for the last year, he's been there every week, he's running everything, he's telling Rove what to do, he's telling Snow what to do, Bush literally takes naps and exercises and goes out and gives a speech two or three times a week, does nothing.

00:42:00.000 Nothing. 0.96

00:42:02.000 Except, well, I don't know what's going on with all the gay prostitutes they bring in at night, but side issue. 1.00

00:42:10.000 Oh, you didn't hear about that? 0.99

00:42:11.000 Why don't you go Google it?

00:42:12.000 It's in the back of the paper.

00:42:12.000 It's mainstream news.

00:42:14.000 I'm sorry, I'm digressing.

00:42:16.000 So, it's the same thing with the Iraq Study Group.

00:42:20.000 And I kept telling you what they do.

00:42:22.000 They came in and said Bush didn't have a good policy, he was wrong.

00:42:26.000 And they're going to pull the troops out, but they need to build them up first and train the 18 or 15, it fluctuates every few weeks, different Different divisions of Iraqi National Guard and last time I checked they've only got two that are standalone now by themselves without U.S.

00:42:46.000 leadership or British leadership.

00:42:51.000 So, for the last two and a half years it's the same trick.

00:42:53.000 We're going to beef up before we build down.

00:42:56.000 Okay, we're going to start pulling people out, that's our plan, but first we've got to stabilize.

00:43:00.000 Meanwhile, British, U.S.

00:43:01.000 and Israeli intelligence is running around, blowing up mosques, machine-gunning people dressed up like whatever group, you know, whether it's Sunni attacking Shiite or vice versa, Kurd attacking Shia or Sunni.

00:43:15.000 It just goes on and on.

00:43:16.000 And it's not going to stop.

00:43:17.000 And we'll probably be there in a hundred years.

00:43:21.000 And I'm not joking.

00:43:22.000 We've been in Korea for fifty, And we've been in Germany for two years, sixty-one years.

00:43:37.000 That is, we the slaves of America, co-opted and brainwashed by high-tech propaganda, totally controlled as the Hessian military force of the private banks that own our country.

00:43:49.000 And so that's what's happened.

00:43:51.000 And so they have the New York Post, the Rupert Murdoch publication comes out and shows Hamilton and Baker, the two, you know, one of them was the former head of the Whitewash 9-11 Commission.

00:44:03.000 Again, these are the people Bush appointed before.

00:44:05.000 And Baker, you know, his daddy's lawyer, Secretary of State, the guy that blocks the victims' families for suing Saudi Arabia for involvement in 9-11.

00:44:13.000 This is the guy.

00:44:14.000 They show him with their heads on chimpanzees, calling him Surrender Monkeys.

00:44:21.000 And yes, I know chimpanzees and apes.

00:44:23.000 They call them surrender monkeys and have their heads on apes.

00:44:26.000 I get emails over the smallest things, but that's what they're doing.

00:44:29.000 Okay, so they're surrender monkeys!

00:44:34.000 They've put it all into now a process.

00:44:34.000 No, they're not.

00:44:36.000 Oh, now they've depoliticized it.

00:44:38.000 Okay, Democrats, you won.

00:44:40.000 We're listening to you.

00:44:41.000 We're going to end the war by putting in 30,000 extra troops and building even more permanent structure bases and And then maybe setting a timetable to later set a timetable.

00:44:55.000 But it won't be any clear numbers on the timetable.

00:44:58.000 We're setting a timetable to set a timetable.

00:45:01.000 And then the Democratic new committee chairman come out and say, and Pelosi come out and say, okay, well yeah, we may have to increase the troops first.

00:45:08.000 The same thing we've been hearing for two and a half years.

00:45:10.000 A year into the war, they started saying that.

00:45:12.000 I mean, it's just the exact same thing, but Bush comes out and criticizes the committee,

00:45:20.000 The study group, the commission, the New York Post attacks them as surrender monkeys, and now the neocons are on top of the radio attacking the evil liberals, James Baker and the surrender monkeys, I heard it this morning, and they're talking points right out of the New York Post, and the liberals have now heard it, Raw story's been totally fooled.

00:45:45.000 All the big liberal sites who were totally anti-war and having an effect are now running around cheerleading talking about how good Baker is.

00:45:54.000 Hey, a few Time Magazine covers of Bush Sr.

00:45:56.000 all blown up big, and Bush looking diminutive down about an inch tall next to him, and a few articles calling him surrender monkeys.

00:46:03.000 They fool the liberals to think they've won, and that now everything's wonderful, and that the Democrats suddenly won't really care about the war, because it was really just about some weird kind of ball game, Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy, Toyota vs. Chrysler, rah-rah, just like the Democrats love the attack on Serbia, they love every other war, just as long as it isn't a Republican.

00:46:29.000 It's a religion of hating the Republicans, who to them in their pantheistic view is the devil, is Loki, Beelzebub, Baphomet, the black dragon, and the Democrats are the angels, and then the saints, and Hillary Clinton and then the saints, and Hillary Clinton is Jesus.

00:46:49.000 I mean, that's basically how it works.

00:46:51.000 So great!

00:46:53.000 It's really over 10,000 troops that have officially died, but they don't count if you're out of country when you die from the wounds.

00:46:58.000 It'll never go over 3,000.

00:46:59.000 It's been at 2,800 and something for two years.

00:47:03.000 Sir, have you noticed that?

00:47:05.000 I mean, it's just sick!

00:47:08.000 It's mind control being practiced against the American people.

00:47:13.000 And if you like being mind controlled, if you like being brainwashed, if you like Propaganda 101, then enjoy yourselves.

00:47:24.000 Another example of the propaganda we witness and we labor under In this country, is the fact that versus Euro lows of 2000 when it was launched, 82 to 83 cents against the dollar, now at 133 against the dollar, they will say the dollar has rebounded.

00:47:43.000 Yes, less than one half of one point.

00:47:46.000 It slides another three cents, and then it goes back up a half cent, and they call that a rallying bull market in the dollar.

00:47:57.000 So, again, that's like you fall off a 100-story building, but once you hit the bottom, somehow you're able to climb a foot back up.

00:48:05.000 I mean, you're at the bottom, folks.

00:48:06.000 You're dead.

00:48:08.000 Meanwhile, the stock market's been devalued by close to half because of dollar devaluation.

00:48:12.000 And so it's at $12,000.

00:48:13.000 Oh, it's such a bull market.

00:48:15.000 And really, it's a horrible market.

00:48:17.000 And the Dow Jones Industrial 30 is staged as well because they pick the Dow 30 and take out the losers.

00:48:24.000 I mean, the Nasdaq index is a fraud, Standard & Poor's is a fraud, on its face!

00:48:33.000 But the media tells you what the good investments are, and you're happy to get 4, 5, 6 percent increase in your average stock values, even on the winners, in staged indexes.

00:48:46.000 Meanwhile, you've clearly had it devalued conservatively by about 45 percent.

00:48:54.000 Then we have this out of the New York Post, which it's clear they're trying to drive an implosion.

00:49:00.000 I don't know why they're ratting on themselves here.

00:49:03.000 They pushed an implosion of the real estate market.

00:49:07.000 Why?

00:49:07.000 Because it's a money sink that they don't want you to be able to run to.

00:49:11.000 So they want to go ahead and destroy that, so when they plunge the market and everybody goes bankrupt, they can go in and buy up the real assets very cheaply.

00:49:20.000 I'm not saying real estate isn't overvalued.

00:49:22.000 It is, but at least there's some tangible value.

00:49:25.000 Well, here's the New York Post.

00:49:26.000 Top-level insiders selling their stock.

00:49:29.000 America's corporate chiefs are unloading their own stocks at one of the boldest paces in 20 years.

00:49:36.000 In cases of the very rich, which is Microsoft's Bill Gates and Google's top brass, the executives are selling a whopping $63 for each one of the stock they bought, says a report by Bloomberg.

00:49:51.000 In November alone, leaders of public companies dumped $8.4 billion worth of stock they owned as insiders, most of it awarded as compensation bonuses or other management incentives.

00:50:04.000 Of course, they focus in on a tiny little manager group.

00:50:07.000 It's the shareholders, which is the big central private banks, defense contractors, and the mafia dons. 0.68

00:50:13.000 And they're dumping so fast it makes my head spin.

00:50:16.000 And what are they grabbing?

00:50:17.000 Raw material.

00:50:18.000 Mines.

00:50:19.000 Military stocks.

00:50:22.000 Telecommunications, grids you're going to have to have.

00:50:25.000 They're divesting so fast it makes my head spin.

00:50:30.000 And when they rape us financially even more, they'll pose as our saviors and have a commission on the depression by the very people that ran the depression.

00:50:38.000 And we'll learn to love them and thank them and people will sit around watching their TVs doing whatever the government says if it'll just end the depression.

00:50:47.000 And you'll just dig your hole deeper, won't you?

00:50:50.000 Now, don't listen to me!

00:50:51.000 Just believe him!

00:50:53.000 It's what you deserve, America!

00:50:53.000 Go ahead!

00:50:55.000 Go ahead!

00:50:57.000 You fed the troops into a meat grinder!

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00:58:47.000 The former MI5 agent, whistleblower David Shaler will join us to give us a global overview on the still continuing gear up for war with Iran.

00:59:03.000 Four aircraft carrier task force groups, that's unprecedented, they've never done that before, it's normally two or three even in Gulf War I and II.

00:59:11.000 Massed in the Persian Gulf, right up against the coastline, sitting ducks, who knows what's going to happen.

00:59:18.000 He'll be joining us to talk about the Litvinenko case that's spiraling and getting bigger and bigger And so much more coming up in the next segment.

00:59:29.000 Some of the news that I was covering the last hour, top level insiders are selling their stock.

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01:00:02.000 That's why they're not doing it.

01:00:03.000 Possibly plunging the U.S.

01:00:05.000 into a recession as the Fed did in 2000.

01:00:09.000 But if they don't do that, the dollar plunges.

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01:00:13.000 It's fiat!

01:00:15.000 Just before the worst of the 2000 recession, insider sales We're also at a near record.

01:00:21.000 This new record is even above that.

01:00:25.000 So there's the rest of the story, as they say.

01:00:28.000 Really scary article here in the Associated Press.

01:00:33.000 Scope of Second Amendment questioned in a case that could shape firearms laws nationwide.

01:00:41.000 Did you hear me?

01:00:42.000 Attorneys for the District of Columbia argued Thursday.

01:00:45.000 That's yesterday.

01:00:48.000 That the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies only to militias, not individuals.

01:00:55.000 So in the past, they argued that they could regulate and restrict individuals.

01:00:59.000 Now they're arguing, you have no right to own a gun.

01:01:01.000 This is your government.

01:01:02.000 This is the criminals.

01:01:03.000 The mafia doesn't want armed slaves, because slaves aren't armed. 0.90

01:01:08.000 The city defended a constitutional, its long-standing ban on handguns.

01:01:16.000 All that some gun opponents have advocated elsewhere.

01:01:19.000 Civil liberties groups and pro-gun organizations say the ban is unconstitutional.

01:01:24.000 Oh no, America isn't all about being ambled on guns.

01:01:27.000 Oh no, the war didn't start when the British came to confiscate the guns from the British.

01:01:32.000 Oh, no!

01:01:35.000 There's no... It's like these lying professors. 0.98

01:01:37.000 One of them got defrocked and lost his tenure for lying and claiming that 1% of the Colonials owned guns and we were anti-gun.

01:01:47.000 They wouldn't actually look at the numbers.

01:01:48.000 He made them up.

01:01:49.000 They didn't exist.

01:01:50.000 Of course, we know from the record that it was almost 100% gun ownership.

01:01:55.000 At issue in the case before a federal appeals court is whether the Second Amendment's right to keep and bear arms applies to all people or only to a well-regulated militia.

01:02:10.000 No, it talks about a well-regulated militia common in the right of the people, la la la, the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:02:19.000 And they have the constitutional debates, the Congress debates, the ratification debates later.

01:02:24.000 The Bush administration has endorsed individual gun ownership rights, but the Supreme Court has never settled the issue.

01:02:33.000 There have been hundreds of Supreme Court and state court rulings saying it's an individual right, but they don't ever want you to know about those rulings, so that's a lie right there.

01:02:40.000 If the dispute makes its way to the high court, it would be the first case in 70 years.

01:02:46.000 Wait, I thought you said it's never been addressed.

01:02:48.000 To address the amendment's scope, the court disappointed gun owner groups in 2003 when it refused to take up a challenge California's ban on assault weapons.

01:03:00.000 When you got eight of the nine members appointed by Republicans, they're gonna be anti-gun.

01:03:05.000 Look at Governor Pataki. 1.00

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01:06:29.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:06:34.000 Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.

01:06:36.000 until 2 p.m.

01:06:37.000 Central Standard Time, we're here on the Genesis Communications Radio Network.

01:06:43.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

01:06:47.000 Often imitated, never duplicated.

01:06:49.000 I wish they would duplicate.

01:06:51.000 I don't even think I have that good of a show, but it is effective against the New World Order.

01:06:54.000 We're going to go to David Shaler, who's a good friend of mine and done a great job exposing false flag, government-sponsored and criminal network-sponsored terror.

01:07:02.000 We can't air the entire 30-minute interview, but he exposed 7-7, 9-11, how he discovered that MI6 was funding Al-Qaeda.

01:07:11.000 That's what he originally blew the whistle on in the late 90s.

01:07:15.000 And he got on Rupert Murdoch-owned Sky Television News.

01:07:18.000 We're going to hear about four minutes of it right now, and then go to him.

01:07:21.000 Here it is.

01:07:22.000 Everybody is saying in this country that this is the Russian government, and I don't believe that's the case.

01:07:26.000 I believe it's much more likely to be the oligarchs who have connected this kind of New World Order of high finance, the oil industry, and the arms industry, who assassinated Litvinenko, because Litvinenko was not a simple dissident.

01:07:37.000 He was actually blowing the whistle on falsified terrorism.

01:07:40.000 This is the same thing that I blew the whistle on.

01:07:42.000 And of course, these people in the New World Order don't want this to come out, because there are many other examples of this, and I include among them 9-11 and possibly 7-7, and they're trying to keep a lid on it.

01:07:53.000 And the reason they're carrying out these false flag operations and blaming Islamic extremists, for example, is so that they can invade countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, and of course that's all very good for the arms industry, the oil industry and the finance industry. 0.50

01:08:05.000 Okay, hey, slow down, I think you're going to... I've just got to join the dots up here.

01:08:09.000 Bear with us for a minute, I will come to you in a second.

01:08:12.000 You're saying the oligarchs would want him dead because he's about to tell us what?

01:08:17.000 Well, he's actually a whistleblower on false flag terrorism.

01:08:21.000 The false flag terrorism he blows the whistle on is in September 1999.

01:08:24.000 We're calling this 999 now.

01:08:27.000 There were a series of explosions at tower blocks in Moscow, and these were blamed on Islamic Chechens, basically.

01:08:34.000 Now, we have heard this story.

01:08:36.000 The allegation is that the Russian government did this, or the FSB.

01:08:38.000 Well, certainly the FSB, the Russian intelligence service, were involved.

01:08:40.000 As a mean to justify the invasion of Chechnya.

01:08:43.000 Absolutely, yes.

01:08:44.000 They were caught doing it.

01:08:45.000 It's not clear whether these were rogue elements of that service, or whether it was being done on behalf of the Russian government, I have to say that.

01:08:50.000 But Lindsay Lincoln was using his own personal experience to bear on other issues and start to investigate perhaps other examples of false flag terrorism.

01:08:58.000 He was about to write a book and so on.

01:09:00.000 And they didn't want this stuff coming out from somebody who already had a reputation for blowing the whistle and somebody who looked to be very, very reliable.

01:09:05.000 There's no comparison, is there, that even if Russian authorities or rogue Russian elements did that to justify an invasion of Chechnya, are you saying there's a parallel with what happened on 9-11 to justify an invasion of Iraq?

01:09:17.000 I am saying that, yes, and if you actually look at the... What documents call for that?

01:09:21.000 Well, there's documents written by the neocons, this includes people like Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld, and Pearl, and even Jeb Bush, the brother of the President.

01:09:29.000 And this dates from September 2000, before the current Republican administration.

01:09:32.000 And they say in that, quite barefaced, that America needs fuel, needs energy, so they say we've got to secure a gas pipeline across Afghanistan, we've got to secure the oil supply from Iraq and Iran.

01:09:45.000 But we can only do this through an invasion, and the people of America won't accept this in the absence of a catastrophic and cataclysmic event like a new Pearl Harbor.

01:09:54.000 Of course, Pearl Harbor was what inflamed American public opinion to get the Americans into the Second World War.

01:09:58.000 So you're asking us to believe that an American administration Or elements within an American administration deliberately set around to murder 3,000 of its own citizens to justify invading Iraq?

01:10:09.000 I am, because the profits involved.

01:10:10.000 And look what's happened as a result of it.

01:10:11.000 Halliburton got a no-big contract for billions of dollars.

01:10:15.000 Dick Chang, of course, is associated with Halliburton.

01:10:17.000 When you look at the physical evidence for 9-11, to prove the official story, it's simply not there.

01:10:22.000 And I know from working on the Lockerbie issue, for example, that every time a plane goes down, it is a requirement of international law that there is an air crash investigation carried out.

01:10:30.000 And that's quite separate from any investigation of terrorism.

01:10:33.000 So on that day, we should have four air crash investigations, we have none.

01:10:37.000 So we can hand on heart say there is no evidence that Flight 11 went to the North Tower and Flight 175 went to the South Tower, because they didn't do that painstaking forensic work.

01:10:45.000 And similarly... Well, what is the video we know and show?

01:10:48.000 We're getting a bit off topic here, but I mean... Well, I would say to anybody, slow that video down and make your own conclusion about what is going on there.

01:10:54.000 But what I must also mention as well, which I find very suspicious as a former counter-terrorist officer, is that less than 1% of the steel taken from Ground Zero was forensicated.

01:11:04.000 The rest of it was shipped off to China, where it was melted down.

01:11:06.000 And that, again, is a criminal offence to interfere in a crime scene.

01:11:09.000 And yet, this less than 1% that was forensicated showed traces of sulphur, which is consistent with a by-product of fernate, an explosive used in controlled demolition.

01:11:17.000 Clearly implying the towers were brought down by controlled demolition.

01:11:21.000 And I'll tell you anybody else, look at Building 7.

01:11:22.000 Do you know about Building 7?

01:11:23.000 Tell me.

01:11:25.000 Briefly.

01:11:25.000 That day, at 5.20, Building 7 came down.

01:11:30.000 A 47-storey building comes down in 6.5 seconds.

01:11:33.000 The central column goes first, it falls in its own footprint.

01:11:36.000 That is entirely consistent with controlled demolition.

01:11:38.000 And the leaseholder's site, Larry Silverstein, said a year later on PBS, the decision was made to have it pulled.

01:11:45.000 And it goes on and on.

01:11:47.000 This is incredible.

01:11:48.000 Why on earth?

01:11:49.000 Because normally they shout you down, just like they do here on Fox Television.

01:11:53.000 Why did he let you go on and on?

01:11:54.000 This is groundbreaking, David.

01:11:57.000 It is, yeah.

01:11:57.000 I'm not quite sure what happened.

01:11:59.000 I think he just got genuinely interested.

01:12:01.000 I mean, some people said he knew about it.

01:12:02.000 I don't think he did, because he didn't know anything about Building 7.

01:12:05.000 I had to explain that to him, for example, as you heard in the clip.

01:12:08.000 So I think he was genuinely interested, not really knowing the kind of can of worms he was opening.

01:12:13.000 And what was interesting was when they started reading out the email response in the middle of the programme, I could see him flicking through them looking for ones criticising me.

01:12:20.000 There were lots in favour, even one from a controlled demolition expert, but very few against.

01:12:25.000 He must have found one.

01:12:27.000 By the end of the programme he was saying it was about evenly split in favour against me.

01:12:31.000 We don't know, obviously, if that's true or not.

01:12:32.000 We don't know whether, you know, the kind of stooges of the intelligence services got their people to email the programme.

01:12:37.000 Well, we know from scientific polls, 84% believe there's a cover-up, and 36% believe total inside job, 68% believing they could be involved.

01:12:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:12:49.000 I mean, when you look at the public opinion polls, I know the public are on my side.

01:12:52.000 Normally when I do telephone interviews in Britain, I know I'm very closely monitored by the intelligence services and the New World Order when I do that. 0.99

01:13:01.000 And sometimes I get quite personal calls coming in and the phone-ins and so on, just attacking me personally as an attempt to try and destabilise me, attempt to try and get me angry and so on.

01:13:12.000 Normally I manage to keep, you know, play quite a straight back to that and just keep focusing on the facts basically which is what we've all got to do.

01:13:18.000 But it's a great sign when they do personally attack you because it means that they can't actually attack your information and that should show the people that we're winning the argument.

01:13:27.000 Well, exactly.

01:13:28.000 That's what Charlie Sheen said.

01:13:29.000 All they could do was make stuff up about him and make personal attacks.

01:13:33.000 None of the media could even talk about any of the claims he made.

01:13:36.000 Yeah, and I think we've got to look long and hard at these people in the media who are allowing themselves to be used in this way.

01:13:42.000 I mean, that to me is pretty clear evidence these people are agents of the New World Order.

01:13:46.000 I mean, one thing I did blow the whistle on that appears in Annie's book, Spies, Lies and Whistleblows, Is that there are two MI6 agents of influence working on the Sunday Telegraph, a very prestigious British newspaper.

01:13:59.000 And so I was actually briefed on a story which was completely made up about Colonel Gaddafi's son in an attempt to discredit him.

01:14:05.000 And that of course went to a journalist who was an MI6 agent of influence, so he puts it in the paper.

01:14:10.000 But of course, because the editor of the paper was also an MI6 agent of influence, he makes sure it gets a good showing.

01:14:15.000 Now, when anybody comes to research this in the future, this is all set in stone in the archives, as if a proper journalistic investigation has gone on.

01:14:23.000 You know, people on the outside would not know, if I hadn't blown the whistle, that that was just information invented by MI6.

01:14:28.000 Well, people wouldn't know that Hearst Publishing, unless they looked in the encyclopedia, has been part of U.S.

01:14:34.000 intelligence since before 1900.

01:14:38.000 And that members of Homeland Security Director's family wrote the hit piece in Popular Mechanics against myself and others, and it is a government op!

01:14:47.000 Well, once you start to scratch the surface, that is the case.

01:14:49.000 I tell you, we've got to wonder why the mainstream media are not following up on these things, and not exposing this kind of thing.

01:14:56.000 I mean, fortunately, after our book came out, the two people involved, Dominic Lawson and Conn Coughlin, these two journalists on the Sunday Telegraph, did resign.

01:15:04.000 They gave some other reasons, but I can certainly say that Dominic Lawson was effectively marched out of the building.

01:15:09.000 Now, of course, once you've exposed nations of influence, they cease to have any influence at all, because then people realize they are involved with MI6 and just putting out MI6 propaganda.

01:15:18.000 I know both of them have since got jobs in other newspapers, but they don't have jobs that are as prestigious, and I don't think they're reporting on intelligence matters quite as much now.

01:15:27.000 Okay, I want to go back here to the Litvinenko case, but before we do that, going from the wilderness in, what, 97 or so when you were first speaking out, to now, you talk about government false flag terror, then they'd look at you like you had six heads.

01:15:43.000 Now, I mean, listen, I've been on talk radio shows where the host attacks me for two hours, and he takes 30 calls, and one of them disagrees, and they panic and say everybody's gone crazy.

01:15:55.000 I've seen a total flip, where almost everybody now knows the truth.

01:15:59.000 How is this going to affect The global oligarchs who are orchestrating terror attacks through their compartments in intelligence.

01:16:06.000 I think that's the best way to say it.

01:16:07.000 It's not the whole government.

01:16:09.000 Criminal elements.

01:16:10.000 I mean, how is this affecting one of their favorite tricks of false flag terror that exponentially it's being exposed and now accepted to be common knowledge?

01:16:20.000 You know, the three stages of truth.

01:16:22.000 First it is ignored, then it's ridiculed, then it's accepted.

01:16:26.000 I mean, give me your take on that.

01:16:30.000 The problem is of course is they can't actually, I mean they'd love to go into Iran, we've had Bush going on about this again just recently, but of course they can't and they can't even have a false flag operation because the 9-11 Truth Movement in the States and the UK particularly are now so well organised and get information out so quickly.

01:16:47.000 And I think some people will recall that there was talk of going into Iran around about August, September 2005.

01:16:54.000 And somebody spotted that there was actually one of these counter-terrorist training exercises going on, which is always a sign that something might happen, like on 9-11 and 7-7.

01:17:02.000 And this one involves smuggling a suitcase nuke into an American city.

01:17:07.000 Now, it's possible they were going to use that as cover for really doing that.

01:17:11.000 But when people saw details of this posted on the net, people shared the information as widely as possible.

01:17:16.000 So even before they'd done anything, everybody was primed for it.

01:17:20.000 And that counter-terrorist training exercise was actually cancelled, would you believe.

01:17:24.000 So I think that the 9-11 Truth Movement across the world may well have stopped that false flag operation.

01:17:29.000 Well, we know we've stopped events.

01:17:31.000 They kept saying it's gonna happen, gonna happen, but they haven't been able to because this stuff doesn't work if you're looking.

01:17:36.000 If you're watching, you know, they can't rob your house if you're home sitting there with a shotgun across your knees.

01:17:43.000 Well, let's just say now we've raised the profile of it, it's that much more difficult for them to do it, isn't it, basically?

01:17:48.000 And that should act as a deterrent.

01:17:51.000 The problem is, of course, the very fact that 9-11's coming out and 7-7's coming out and you say all the other stuff about the false flag operations.

01:17:58.000 Makes them more desperate to start either another Cold War or World War 3!

01:18:02.000 So they can, you know, perhaps declare a state of emergency and take control of the media and so on.

01:18:08.000 I agree with you.

01:18:09.000 Let's talk about Litvinenko, because I'm no fan of Putin.

01:18:12.000 He may be involved, but I think what you're saying about it being New World Order has a lot of credibility.

01:18:17.000 Let's find out who you believe is involved.

01:18:19.000 Is it the oligarchs?

01:18:20.000 Israel? 0.53

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01:23:08.000 Went public when he found out that the government was hiring Al-Qaeda to commit murders, Al-Qaeda.

01:23:15.000 and since then has just been spot on on so many issues, so I respect his opinion.

01:23:19.000 Litvinenko, okay, and then now this particular isotope showing up in Italy, bars all over London, businesses, Russia, five airplanes.

01:23:29.000 Did Litvinenko really say he thinks Russian intelligence killed him on his deathbed, or is that made up, or was he blowing the whistle on the Israeli oligarchs?

01:23:39.000 I mean, what's really going on here with your investigative skills as a former MI5 agent?

01:23:46.000 Well, you've always got to ask the question, of course, who benefits, and, of course, the Russian state doesn't benefit from this.

01:23:53.000 This is putting Putin in the spotlight.

01:23:55.000 Uh, there's a lot of accusations, obviously, that Putin is behind it.

01:23:58.000 I mean, someone called Dame Pauline Neville-Jones here, who's a former MI6, very senior MI6 officer, has been going around saying all the evidence points to the Russians.

01:24:06.000 So you can be pretty sure that's misinformation coming out of MI6, of course.

01:24:10.000 Uh, the people who stand to benefit are the oligarchs and the New World Order.

01:24:13.000 If the Russian services wanted to bump this man off, they'd use the usual technique, They've actually got a thing, a spray, they can blow through a rolled up newspaper that hits you in the nose, you breathe it in, you die of a heart attack in seconds.

01:24:26.000 That is the normal method to use by intelligence services, you want a clean kill, basically.

01:24:31.000 And of course they can then say, if anybody says, oh, the Russians bumped him off, they can say conspiracy theory, he died of a heart attack.

01:24:37.000 This has been done for two reasons.

01:24:40.000 to discourage other people from blowing the whistle on false flag terrorism, saying to them, "If you do this, you're not just going to die, you're going to die a long, slow and painful death." But secondly, that long, slow and painful death kept the whole story in the newspapers.

01:24:54.000 The very fact that there's contamination elsewhere means the story is going on and on.

01:24:57.000 And this, I think, is designed to inflame British public opinion and try and create a rift between Britain and Russia with a view to a new Cold War.

01:25:05.000 Well, it looks just like...

01:25:07.000 Well, I agree.

01:25:08.000 I mean, it looks just like the anthrax, which is timed out over a month, which creates fear everywhere of the mail, which clearly was sent by the White House, but then they blame it on Arabs.

01:25:18.000 The White House is on Cipro, the drug that fights it, September 10th, three and a half weeks.

01:25:23.000 Only Bush enemies get it in Boca Raton.

01:25:25.000 Then their whole archives with all the stuff in the bushes get seized, Daschle and others, and members of the media get it.

01:25:34.000 And then here, I mean, certainly, you know, early on some of my writers who do a good job, we're no fan of Putin who clearly was involved in staging the terror attacks, you know, as you mentioned on the Sky News part.

01:25:47.000 We know that FSB, you know, was caught by the police planting bombs in a fourth building.

01:25:52.000 We know at that time he stood to gain by being able to blame it on Chechnya as vice president and then during the election, during a war, be catapulted in a popular landslide.

01:26:04.000 So we know Putin's not a friendly fellow, former KGB agent, but at the same time we know there's been these fights between some of the oligarchs and Putin.

01:26:13.000 And so we wrote articles when the media was all saying, no, it's got to be really the Israelis or somebody else.

01:26:20.000 They wrote some articles saying, well, maybe it is Putin.

01:26:22.000 But I early on have said, well, where there's smoke, there's fire.

01:26:27.000 And this thing does look like it was done to embarrass Putin.

01:26:31.000 But then at the same time, Litvinenko saw it in two press reports.

01:26:35.000 I'm asking you, are those false?

01:26:36.000 Or what do you know?

01:26:37.000 Saying, no, he believes Russian intelligence killed him.

01:26:39.000 I mean, wouldn't somebody who was dying finger who he really thought did?

01:26:43.000 Or are those false reports?

01:26:45.000 Well that's it, you can never know in this situation because the whole situation about life, and I've got to live this day in day out as well, I've got to worry about people who come and befriend me.

01:26:54.000 Are they really my friends?

01:26:55.000 Are they reporting back to me on the intelligence services?

01:26:58.000 It's cloak and dagger.

01:26:59.000 I always say it's a world of smoke and mirrors and you end up not trusting your own shadow basically.

01:27:04.000 But what we do know from press reports that haven't been, not press reports from this country, reports from the Internet, is that Aled Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, went to see Putin and said to Putin, look, if we invade Iran, will you continue to supply us with oil?

01:27:19.000 And Putin said no.

01:27:20.000 So again, that would indicate perhaps that the dead hand of Israel is behind this. 0.86

01:27:25.000 And then two weeks later this happens.

01:27:27.000 Yeah, and then two weeks later this happens.

01:27:28.000 Now again, you've got to look at the causes in the background and so on.

01:27:32.000 There's some trouble with trying to evaluate evidence in this, and it's virtually impossible, because these people are experts at planting evidence.

01:27:38.000 I mean, it may well be that we're getting all these traces of Polonium-210 all over the place to cover up the fact that the first findings of Polonium-210 were in the offices of Boris Berezovsky, one of the oligarchs, and of an intelligence, a private intelligence company called IRINIS, based in London.

01:27:55.000 No, but there have only been two traces there.

01:27:57.000 People will be pointing the finger at them and saying, well, they've had it with something.

01:28:00.000 But then suddenly, suddenly they find it on a bunch of airplanes in Italy and all over the globe and, you know, they'll probably find it in Antarctica tomorrow morning.

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01:37:03.000 I think there's problems with the publishers of this book.

01:37:05.000 I mean, to start with, the government sat on it for 15 months, because if we'd published it, we would have been put in prison again.

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01:37:25.000 And we've tried to contact them, because surely by now they must owe us money, or it must have gone out of... they must have stopped selling it, in which case it's gone out of print, and the rights revert to us.

01:37:33.000 So having tremendous problems.

01:37:35.000 And my strong suspicion is that they were sent in by the intelligence services in the first place.

01:37:40.000 They realize you don't get anywhere by banning books now, but what you can do is get somebody to take the rights off you so you no longer have control over your own work.

01:37:47.000 And I find it very frustrating when I go to talks and talk about what my experience is, and then people say, "Have you got a book?" And I say, "Well, yeah, you can get it off Amazon.com, but I'd like to be able to sell one to you myself here." But I can't do that because the publishers won't give them to you.

01:37:58.000 Well, let me be clear on how this works.

01:38:01.000 They first come to the Official Secrets Act He spent six months in prison for going public about government-sponsored terror.

01:38:06.000 That was in addition to the four months in France when they tried to extradite me as well.

01:38:10.000 Exactly.

01:38:11.000 So a total of ten months.

01:38:14.000 So we have that going on.

01:38:16.000 Then they openly, it was in the papers, blocked the publishing of your book.

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01:38:20.000 Then the company that came to you prints 3,000.

01:38:23.000 They sell out quickly and they don't print more.

01:38:26.000 Let me tell you what's happened with Terror Storm.

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01:38:57.000 And they sold out, and then now they've said, we're not going to carry it anymore.

01:39:01.000 And I've had Colonel Craig Roberts who's had, what, three best-selling books?

01:39:05.000 One sold millions of copies.

01:39:06.000 He writes books about the New World Order.

01:39:08.000 He's had New York publishers tell him, look, the CIA runs New York and London Publishing, and that's come out in the Senate hearings in 1977.

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01:39:17.000 You've got to self-publish.

01:39:18.000 So folks, it is just unbelievably frustrating to deal with this.

01:39:25.000 On that subject, Alex, while I'm doing those, I'm going to rewrite the book.

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01:40:08.000 That was very different.

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01:40:29.000 And also, of course, that was the beginning of compromising our liberties to protect us in the war against terrorism.

01:40:36.000 We have lots of information about how they failed to stop the IRA.

01:40:41.000 For example, when MI5 took over this responsibility, the Metropolitan Police Special Branch, who'd been responsible beforehand, didn't hand over a single reliable, taskable agent.

01:40:52.000 Now, the only way you stop terrorism is by having agents.

01:40:55.000 That's how the RUC did it in Northern Ireland.

01:40:57.000 So there were no reliable agents.

01:40:58.000 It doesn't look like they were trying to stop it at all.

01:41:00.000 But even then, MI5 was forced to take on, the officers of MI5 were forced by MI5 management to take on telephone taps which were out of date and based on inaccuracies at the expense of more current targets.

01:41:12.000 And MI5 also failed to incorporate the Met's data into its own records.

01:41:17.000 Every investigation, every time somebody came up as a potential terrorist, you have to write to the Met to find out what they knew about them, slowing down the whole investigation.

01:41:25.000 Okay, let me stop you, let me stop you right there.

01:41:27.000 I've interviewed a bunch of the bomb makers and the people involved with Stake Night, and they said point blank, 70 plus percent of the bombings were purely orchestrated By British Special Forces Commandos, Infiltrators, MI6, and that literally you'd be at a high-level IRA meeting and that the entire leadership would really be agents and not even know it, and that they were out in many cases carrying out the attacks themselves.

01:41:56.000 Well this is it, we know now from the Steak Knife book and from various inquiries like the Stephens Inquiry that there was clearly collusion between the British intelligence services and loyalist terrorists to assassinate innocent Catholics.

01:42:11.000 And of course, in the case of Statenite, because he was head of the interrogation squad, or the nothing squad, he was actually torturing and killing other British agents who were reporting back on the IRA, therefore making the conflict last longer.

01:42:24.000 And when you start looking at all of this stuff, you realise that terrorism has been created.

01:42:28.000 In the first place, in Northern Ireland, terrorism was created because Loyalists were going into Catholic areas, they were attacking Catholics, But they don't want that!

01:42:37.000 It's just like Israel! 0.99

01:42:38.000 Because the propagandists can't deal with people up front in suits, speaking well and exposing the oppression, so they have to make it violent.

01:42:44.000 like they did in the U.S. in the 1950s.

01:42:46.000 But they don't want that.

01:42:47.000 It's just like Israel. 0.98

01:42:48.000 Because the propagandists can't deal with people up front in suits, speaking well and exposing the oppression, so they have to make it violent.

01:42:57.000 That's how they would like to neutralize Gandhi, would just go out and do violence in his name.

01:43:02.000 And this is what they did with...

01:43:05.000 When people wanted to have a civil rights march, it was banned, but they said, look, we're going to march anyway to have civil rights.

01:43:11.000 And of course, what happened that day?

01:43:13.000 In 1972, the British Army gunned down 13 innocent, unarmed Catholics.

01:43:19.000 And it's now emerged at the inquiry into Bloody Sunday that one soldier, who is luckily given anonymity, is admitted to shooting in the back a man waving a white handkerchief who was going to the aid of a dying man.

01:43:33.000 Now, you just know, that's clearly an attempt to inflame Catholic opinion.

01:43:38.000 Of course, the contract of democracy broke down at that point, because the state was no longer protecting innocent people, it was killing them, and they said, well look, we've got to take up arms.

01:43:48.000 But of course, they started interning people, and as anybody who works in the intelligence services knows, once they interned people, those people were not members of the IRA.

01:43:56.000 When they came out four years later, they were, because they were saying, why should I support a state which imprisons me for nothing, without a trial, You know, we've got to defend our rights, and the only way we do that is by bearing arms, basically.

01:44:08.000 Now, let's be clear.

01:44:09.000 The exact same thing's happening in Iraq.

01:44:11.000 The 83 Israeli plan, the 2002 US plan, was to break it in three parts.

01:44:16.000 Stimulate sectarian and religious strife. 0.78

01:44:19.000 And then to build permanent bases and oversee it to make sure it stays third world, and then to make sure the oil isn't pumped out to then artificially inflate the prices. 0.92

01:44:27.000 And so Bush hasn't screwed up in Iraq.

01:44:30.000 They've done exactly what the original plans called for.

01:44:32.000 Now they put it into this, quote, process debate, when really the Iraq Study Commission is just saying, oh, we need to build up troops before we take them out.

01:44:41.000 And the Democrats are saying the same thing.

01:44:42.000 It's the exact same thing.

01:44:44.000 Well, this is the problem with current politics, is when it comes to these kind of issues, the New World Order is so powerful that there's no opposition to them.

01:44:52.000 Every journalist and politician knows in Britain and America, if they start standing up and talking about 9-11 being an inside job or the fact they're going to build permanent bases in Iraq or whatever, they know that the money's going to be cut off, they will have their personal life raked through and they'll be discredited in the media, basically.

01:45:10.000 But despite all that intimidation, it's starting to break down.

01:45:13.000 Let's go back to Lyndon Vadenko if we can.

01:45:15.000 Because that's important, but it all ties together.

01:45:16.000 Now, again, I'm not saying it's Putin.

01:45:19.000 I'm not saying it's not.

01:45:20.000 I'm not saying it isn't the oligarchs.

01:45:23.000 I know this is cloak and dagger, and certainly the way this looks is it was meant to be a big spectacle.

01:45:28.000 So we ask, who wants a big spectacle?

01:45:30.000 Well, we know that Boris Barazovsky has financed a film, has talked about how Putin staged attacks.

01:45:38.000 Then you talk about Litvinenko was writing a book, had been one of the main sources.

01:45:41.000 Other FSB have gone public exposing this as well.

01:45:45.000 So it seemed like in a way, and those guys were supposedly friends, and so now we find it at his office, but you say they could plan it, so we don't know.

01:45:54.000 And then Putin might want to send a big message to all the whistleblowers to shut up about how he carries out terror attacks in his own country to blame it on Chechens.

01:46:02.000 So, I mean, how do you navigate that?

01:46:04.000 What makes you think it's the oligarchs?

01:46:07.000 And then why would the oligarchs do this?

01:46:10.000 Are you saying that because this coincided with Putin's refusal to go along with the attack on Iran and to give Israel continued oil?

01:46:18.000 I mean, explain to me why you come to the analysis that you don't think it's Putin.

01:46:23.000 Because, if it was the Russian services, they would use the usual method of administering heart attack drugs that are very difficult to trace.

01:46:31.000 If they wanted to get rid of a difficult dissident or whatever, that's what they would do.

01:46:35.000 And that would also send a message out to other intelligence officers, because they know about these things, like I do.

01:46:41.000 You know, when people die of heart attacks in strange circumstances, or commit suicide, as David Kelly is supposed to have done, I'm always suspicious because I know these are the methods of the intelligence services.

01:46:50.000 So that could send out a message to other whistleblowers in a sense.

01:46:54.000 But what they've done is taken it a stage beyond that.

01:46:57.000 It's a horrific, slow death with this stuff.

01:47:00.000 People's internal organs all failing and everything.

01:47:02.000 That sends out a much stronger message.

01:47:05.000 And of course it keeps the whole thing in the papers day in, day out.

01:47:08.000 Intelligence services just don't like publicity at all.

01:47:11.000 If it was the Russians, they wouldn't have done it in that way, basically. 0.99

01:47:14.000 And of course, what we have now is Putin's on the back foot, because people are pointing the finger at him.

01:47:18.000 It's in some ways a slightly compromised position on the world stage.

01:47:22.000 So he hasn't gained from it at all, whereas the New World Order has. 0.94

01:47:27.000 So, what do you see Putin's geopolitical position in the whole gallery, or in the whole panoptagon of world figures?

01:47:39.000 Well, I mean, I'm not sure how far in the...

01:47:41.000 I mean, what we can...

01:47:43.000 It's very difficult to say is after Litvinenko's whistleblowing about the FSP planting these bombs, is how far that was actually an official operation, how far it was rogue elements of the SFP.

01:47:54.000 Because a bit like 9-11, I'm not saying the head of the FBI and the head of the CIA ordered this.

01:47:59.000 What I'm saying is there are elements within those organizations who are not loyal to the US Constitution, who are working in the interest of the New World Order.

01:48:07.000 So they are members of the CIA and FBI, but they are not loyal to the aims of those organizations.

01:48:12.000 And that's what may have happened in Russia with the bombing of these tower blocks or whatever.

01:48:16.000 In many ways, it's better to keep people like Putin and Blair and Bush out of the loop.

01:48:22.000 So when they are put on television they can sound very honest and very sincere.

01:48:26.000 Well I do agree that Bush and Blair and Putin to a great extent are puppets.

01:48:30.000 Probably Putin less than any of the other two.

01:48:34.000 I mean, certainly these big power networks, the institutions that couple in the revolving door with the global corporations and the banks, that's who's calling the shots in these commission committee rooms between the different elite men who meet and codify strategy and policy.

01:48:51.000 We know that's how the world works.

01:48:53.000 They brag about it.

01:48:54.000 I mean, certainly Putin stood to gain from the 1999 bombings.

01:48:58.000 And I think his, I mean, he was a KGB guy.

01:49:02.000 I mean, I certainly think he was involved in that from all the evidence.

01:49:05.000 Bush came from 9-11, but that doesn't mean to say he knew what was going on, does it?

01:49:08.000 Bush was a lame duck president before 9-11.

01:49:12.000 Afterwards, he became one of the most popular presidents for a short period.

01:49:17.000 And I don't believe that Bush was in on the operation.

01:49:19.000 Stay there.

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01:52:33.000 Welcome back.

01:52:34.000 I'm on a segment with David Shaler.

01:52:42.000 We've been coming up about 8 after.

01:52:46.000 I just don't want you to know I can see through your masks.

01:52:54.000 Welcome back.

01:52:56.000 Final segment with David Shaler.

01:52:58.000 We've been coming up about 8 after.

01:52:59.000 We've got another great guest coming on.

01:53:00.000 Discuss what really happened in New Orleans, a new film they've made, how it ties into gun confiscation, the police state, the lies in the media.

01:53:09.000 David, I mean, let's try here in the final segment to navigate this.

01:53:12.000 Certainly, Putin became guilty for helping cover up what the Federal Security Bureau, the KGB's new name at that time, had done, bombing the buildings.

01:53:24.000 Clearly, when the police arrested them doing it, and then more FSB came in and ordered them released, And these were higher-level FSB, and we had mid-level FSB saying it was the government defecting, leaving the country.

01:53:36.000 It's the same thing with Bush.

01:53:37.000 Clearly Cheney was involved in there with the stand-down that morning.

01:53:41.000 I mean, yeah, Bush doesn't run anything, we know that.

01:53:43.000 But certainly he knows he was gifted this, and then how to go follow the script.

01:53:47.000 I mean, certainly shortly after Bush had to know the score, David.

01:53:52.000 Same thing with Putin.

01:53:54.000 I think so, but they then find themselves in a difficult position.

01:53:57.000 I suppose any honorable person would, in those circumstances, resign.

01:54:02.000 But there's always a danger, of course, that if you do resign, you'll get some genuine puppet in place who will do everything the New World Order wants, and at least Putin is saying no to invading Iran.

01:54:11.000 And we should respect him for that, really, because that would be a disaster.

01:54:15.000 We've seen a disaster in Iraq. 0.91

01:54:16.000 650,000 people died.

01:54:17.000 Well, they were saying no to Iraq, too, but then they went along with it once it happened. 0.93

01:54:23.000 Well this is true, yeah, but I mean the very fact that he's drawn the line in the sand now and said no about Iran, I think is very interesting in the fact that he has actually done that.

01:54:31.000 Why are they saying no to Iran?

01:54:32.000 Because NATO's trying to take over Georgia and a few other places and because Iran will link up with Afghanistan and of course then with Iraq on the other side you'll have encirclement Well, I think he'll obviously do it for his own reasons of geopolitics as well, but nevertheless, as I say, he's standing up for them. 0.74

01:54:53.000 He is not going along with this whole crazy idea to go into Iran, and we should, in a sense, no matter what his motive is, we should respect him for doing that, for making it more difficult for them to launch another disastrous invasion in which lots of innocent people die, and only encourage people to join terrorist organisations. 0.83

01:55:12.000 Well, I certainly get the point that you're driving home there.

01:55:16.000 What do the people in Britain think?

01:55:17.000 Who do they think was involved in poisoning Litvinenko, and now the other guy that's in a coma, about to die?

01:55:23.000 A lot of people are saying it was the oligarchs here.

01:55:26.000 I mean, I got that message out very, very quickly on mainstream British television, not just in Sky, I was also on ITV, which is their main commercial channel here, on a very popular breakfast program, and I said the same thing then.

01:55:38.000 Well, you should have seen the look on the interviewer's face when I started mentioning the New World Order.

01:55:42.000 Clearly, you're not allowed to do that on mainstream television, but I did.

01:55:46.000 And therefore, you know, people are getting wiser in this country just simply because they can see the mess in Iraq. 0.97

01:55:51.000 And they can see that this stuff to do with Iran is all being invented and everything else in the same way. 0.70

01:55:56.000 that we had a threat invented from Iraq beforehand. 0.81

01:55:59.000 I mean, certainly Scott Witter has blown the whistle on how MI6 were heavily involved in planting information in the world's media to indicate that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

01:56:09.000 And we also, of course, know how MI6 were involved in promoting information.

01:56:12.000 Even though they knew it was based on obvious forged documents indicating that Saddam had to try to get stuff from Niger, basically. - And then we know they staged it, and we have the White House and Downing Street memos.

01:56:24.000 Well, David Shaler, it was great having you on.

01:56:26.000 I know you've now had a chance to see Terror Storm.

01:56:29.000 What do you think of the film that you're featured in?

01:56:30.000 I think it's absolutely great.

01:56:32.000 Actually, I was doing a talk at a festival in this country about false flag terrorism.

01:56:37.000 And the next thing on the bill was Telestorm.

01:56:39.000 That was the first time I saw it, and for me it was great because obviously it was confirming to people things I'd said.

01:56:44.000 Here was me, a former British intelligence officer saying it, and there was you, an American, saying this.

01:56:49.000 You've been investigating this sort of stuff for years.

01:56:51.000 And then, of course, when I popped up on the film, people were very impressed to see that I was in this American film as well.

01:56:58.000 David, good having you with us.

01:56:59.000 Take care.

01:57:01.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

01:57:06.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:06.000 What?

01:57:06.000 Big Brother.

01:57:07.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:09.000 You want answers?

01:57:13.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

01:57:23.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:25.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:57:30.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:57:34.000 Filmmaker James L. Bills was in New Orleans from the start to the finish.

01:57:48.000 We had him on, really, just a few months after the disaster.

01:57:52.000 Last year, to talk about what he witnessed there, the gun confiscations, the dead bodies, the prisoners with the water rising.

01:58:00.000 Now the video is out, and we have, if you go to Infowars.com, you can link through and watch some of the incredible clips.

01:58:07.000 He's even got a page called the Alex Jones page, and we're going to do an interview with him here in the next 30-45 minutes or so, and in the last 15 minutes I'm going to cover some news we haven't gotten to, and we're going to take the She's going to let us use a few of the video clips out of the film.

01:58:21.000 We're going to take that and lay that down over this audio interview and put it out on the web to get the word out to the people.

01:58:28.000 But we can't forget this.

01:58:30.000 You know, we just had the one year anniversary a few months ago, but the reason we're talking about it is it shows you what FEMA and the government is going to do if they ever get the chance.

01:58:39.000 And there is a new article out about how Congress has voted to keep all the old camps open.

01:58:44.000 Well, that's deceptive.

01:58:45.000 Keep them open?

01:58:47.000 They have been closed and now, starting the late 90s, they've been going back into Manazar and the high desert of California.

01:58:54.000 I've been there and other places.

01:58:56.000 They put new federal prison camp signs up.

01:58:59.000 They put water back in.

01:59:01.000 They put electricity back in.

01:59:02.000 They repair the fences.

01:59:06.000 And then they say, oh, now it's an open park for you to come see what these camps are like.

01:59:13.000 Meanwhile, we have the Houston Chronicle admitting Under FEMA documents that they're building camps for the American people all over the country.

01:59:19.000 Well, these are part of those camouflage camps, and I did a piece back in 1998.

01:59:26.000 Photos, everything.

01:59:27.000 On InfoWars.com.

01:59:29.000 In fact, I was looking for it this morning.

01:59:30.000 It's somewhere in the archives.

01:59:32.000 And, uh, lo and behold!

01:59:35.000 So Paul wrote a good article about this.

01:59:36.000 Paul Watson.

01:59:39.000 He didn't even know that I had already predicted and already been there and already seen that they had just refurbished and built them and set them up.

01:59:48.000 And didn't have them open to the public.

01:59:50.000 It was just, there they are, fresh coat of paint, waiting happily.

01:59:55.000 Where they kept the Japanese, where they kept Germans, where they kept POWs, where they kept Italian-Americans. 0.93

02:00:01.000 And we always talk about Japanese.

02:00:04.000 What happened to them was terrible.

02:00:05.000 But Germans and Italians got thrown in the Huskow As well, and now Glenn Beck and all these big neocons are calling for putting the Arabs in camps.

02:00:14.000 Well, the Arabs first to break the good old ice. 1.00

02:00:18.000 But then it will expand out from there.

02:00:22.000 So it is all coming up after this quick break that we're about to slide into with James L. Bills and the film Refuge of last resort.

02:00:41.000 And it is powerful.

02:00:45.000 By the way, he took it to the, it's also a story of media control and manipulation and censorship.

02:00:50.000 He took this riveting, I mean bombshell footage, just hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of it to the media.

02:00:59.000 And they said, we don't want any of that.

02:01:01.000 We don't know.

02:01:01.000 We're not going to show that.

02:01:02.000 No, no, no.

02:01:03.000 BBC showed some of it.

02:01:05.000 And some other foreign stations did, but still watered it down.

02:01:09.000 But we're not going to hold any punches.

02:01:10.000 Some of the most hardcore clips are up on the web right now.

02:01:13.000 And, you know, as I said, he's gracious enough to let us.

02:01:17.000 And I guess we're pretty gracious, too, because we're not going to make any money off this.

02:01:20.000 But we'll put it together and put it out on the web, take a few clips and put it over the interview that is coming up.

02:01:29.000 Don't forget the websites.

02:01:30.000 They're InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, JonesReport.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, and of course we have sites like MarshallLaw911.info, which is a bibliography of my film, Marshall Law, which some listeners think is my best film.

02:01:48.000 I think Terror Storm is, but Marshall Law is different.

02:01:51.000 It's good.

02:01:53.000 Every claim, every document, everything we show is bibliographed.

02:01:57.000 And a listener, by the way, put the site together and put it up.

02:01:59.000 It's very professional.

02:02:00.000 We're very thankful to that listener for doing that.

02:02:03.000 All right!

02:02:05.000 We'll come back and plunge in, lest we forget, to what happened in New Orleans with some new tidbits.

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02:02:38.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

02:02:50.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

02:02:54.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

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02:05:41.000 All right, we now have 51 and a half minutes left in this broadcast, my final broadcast of this week.

02:05:48.000 I'll be back, though, this Sunday to kick off the new week.

02:05:54.000 Yeah, most people kick it off on Monday.

02:05:56.000 I kick it off on Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

02:05:59.000 Gotta get my ox out of the ditch here, folks. 0.99

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02:06:24.000 For the next 40 minutes or so, 35 minutes or so, I want to talk to a man who we've interviewed before, but now his film is done, and it's an incredible documentary, and he's got some free clips for you up on his website.

02:06:37.000 If you go to Infowars.com, there's a big link to the subpage called the Alex Jones page.

02:06:44.000 That has some particular clips that aren't even in the film, some that are, of what they witnessed while they were there.

02:06:53.000 And the reason I'm going back to New Orleans right now, a year plus after the tragedy, is because... Well, there's a lot of different reasons.

02:07:05.000 The way the media handled it, the propaganda, the cover-up of just how bad it really was.

02:07:09.000 You think it's bad, folks.

02:07:10.000 No, it's even worse than you thought if you talked to the eyewitnesses or if you went through it.

02:07:16.000 And we know that FEMA sabotaged the power.

02:07:18.000 We know FEMA jammed police communications as the storm hit.

02:07:21.000 We know that FEMA cut the communications lines.

02:07:24.000 We know that the armed police had to go guard police installations and police relay towers to stop FEMA from cutting them.

02:07:34.000 We know that for four to five days they blocked aid coming into the city and then afterwards went into the high and dry wealthy areas with huge flatback trucks full of armed FBI, U.S.

02:07:46.000 military, National Guard, and police to confiscate guns.

02:07:50.000 In fact, I forgot, why don't you pull that ABC clip up Of the reporter that got blown to bits, who we don't hear from anymore, there in Iraq, where they're doing the gun confiscation.

02:08:03.000 I think that dovetails in a horrific way with what we're about to talk about.

02:08:08.000 But the film is Refuge of Last Resort, the true Hurricane Katrina story.

02:08:15.000 No Holds Barred documentary chronicles the days before, during, and after Hurricane Katrina.

02:08:20.000 Told from the viewpoint of several families stuck in New Orleans, this moving and unflinching story says so much by saying so little.

02:08:28.000 Most of the footage has never been seen by the public, and there is absolutely no stock footage used in the film.

02:08:35.000 And there's even more that's on the web now that he's going to be sending us some raw footage to put on the web.

02:08:40.000 We're very thankful to that.

02:08:41.000 And so now we are joined by James L. Bills.

02:08:46.000 James, thanks for coming back on with us.

02:08:48.000 Thank you for having us, Alex.

02:08:49.000 That is always an excellent show.

02:08:52.000 I was trying to explain to a lot of friends of mine, because people listen to your show a bit, and for some weird reason, you've probably heard this before, people think, wow, he's really left wing.

02:08:59.000 And I say, no, he's not at all left wing.

02:09:02.000 So now when I explain your political affiliation, I just say Alex Jones is a patriot.

02:09:07.000 Well, thank you.

02:09:09.000 I know you're a listener to the show, and we're flattered by that.

02:09:11.000 That's how we originally got in contact.

02:09:13.000 But I'm a Constitutionalist.

02:09:15.000 So the Democrats and Republicans are teamed up, bought off by foreign interests, destroying our liberty, our country, our economy.

02:09:23.000 And so I'm trying to wake the people up to fight it, and that's really what you're trying to do, is just tell the truth.

02:09:29.000 We're trying to get the truth out there.

02:09:30.000 That's right.

02:09:30.000 We're trying to let people know, because so many people either think that they know what happened, and when we show them even just our film again, which is...

02:09:37.000 Compared to some things out there, relatively tame, even though it's horrific, opens up so many eyes and people see it, they walk away saying, I had no idea that was what was going on.

02:09:45.000 Now, you shot most of this footage, but also you got footage from jail guards, policemen, I mean, you got some amazing stuff.

02:09:52.000 Tell us about the film, and let's talk about, you were in New Orleans the entire time before it started through it.

02:09:58.000 I want to break that down, and then let's discuss from an eyewitness account, and then you have the video to back it up, what you really saw.

02:10:05.000 Well, folks, the video that we released nationwide only contains the video that I shot.

02:10:11.000 The jail guard footage we ended up pulling out of this cut, and we let another company make a full documentary on the jail, just so you know.

02:10:18.000 So the final cut that we went with, the hour-long cut, we only show what we went through.

02:10:22.000 We show the military moving in and taking over the city, detaining people and putting them basically in pens.

02:10:28.000 Um, but to start from the beginning, again, the film starts out with us kind of almost whimsical.

02:10:33.000 We're like, we're stuck in the city, we can't get out.

02:10:34.000 Traffic is literally backed up from Baton Rouge into downtown New Orleans.

02:10:38.000 Um, Saturday morning I watched the news, first thing before Katrina, and uh, they're saying the same thing they were saying a few days ago.

02:10:44.000 It looks like it's going to hook into Florida like every other hurricane does.

02:10:48.000 And of course, at lunchtime, that was not what had happened.

02:10:50.000 Of course, by then it was too late.

02:10:52.000 If you were in New Orleans at lunchtime on Saturday, August 27th, and you were going to ride Katrina out, no ifs, ands, or buts.

02:10:58.000 So, uh, our house was a hundred-year-old house.

02:11:02.000 It, uh, about a month earlier, Hurricane Cindy, a Category 1, had blown through.

02:11:05.000 We were without power for five full days.

02:11:08.000 So we were kind of extremely worried.

02:11:10.000 Luckily, my friend Gabriel Black, who you see in the trailer talking about the atrocities of Katrina, his wife worked at a hotel downtown, and a hurricane-proof hotel, which it indeed was.

02:11:20.000 And so we rode out the hurricane in complete safety.

02:11:23.000 We were fine after the storm.

02:11:24.000 After the storm was over, we were fine.

02:11:27.000 And I'm sure you've heard the argument, people saying, well, you shouldn't have stayed there then.

02:11:30.000 Well, why?

02:11:30.000 We were walking around, you know, four o'clock on Monday, walking around looking at things.

02:11:35.000 Things were fine.

02:11:36.000 But the police basically stood down.

02:11:40.000 I mean, let's go through... But the police disappeared, Alex.

02:11:44.000 They didn't stand down, they disappeared.

02:11:45.000 Let me jump right into a horror story.

02:11:47.000 This is, again, imagine you're in Anywhere USA and you see a guy get beat almost to death on the street in front of you.

02:11:53.000 We're, of course, up on the second floor at the concrete balcony.

02:11:56.000 Here's a guy beat almost to death.

02:11:59.000 Literally for his money, which had no function at all, there was no reason to have any money at all for his watch and for his shirt.

02:12:06.000 That's it.

02:12:08.000 On the radio, this is Tuesday after the storm, on the radio we're hearing, go to the convention center, go to the convention center, there's EMTs, there's food at the convention center.

02:12:14.000 We're hearing this on the radio.

02:12:15.000 We're hearing that there's food, EMTs, water there.

02:12:21.000 We, uh, we get there, we literally take this guy in the back of a truck and drive him the three and a half blocks to the convention center.

02:12:28.000 There are one, two, three police officers at the convention center, period.

02:12:32.000 Three police officers.

02:12:34.000 They're in civilian clothes, they have their police belts on, they have hunting rifles with scopes on them, because they don't have any gear.

02:12:40.000 They have no communication, like, and the way we found them in the ten plus thousand people that were there, I don't know where they get that there were only a few hundred people at the convention, there were thousands of people there.

02:12:50.000 A police car would pull up and chit-chat with him through the window, then drive off.

02:12:54.000 Then another minute later, another car would pull up, chit-chat, and drive off.

02:12:57.000 So we took this guy over there to them, and we said, this guy's been attacked, he's gonna die, he needs medical help.

02:13:02.000 And the first words out of the police officer's mouth were, he's just gonna have to die.

02:13:09.000 This is important for people to understand throughout history.

02:13:12.000 The government can't, won't, is not going to help you in a major emergency.

02:13:18.000 In fact, they're not going to come with food.

02:13:20.000 They're going to come with guns to take your guns. 1.00

02:13:22.000 That's another thing.

02:13:23.000 They came with guns.

02:13:23.000 That's another thing.

02:13:24.000 People tell me, and again, this is Texas.

02:13:26.000 We're living in Texas now.

02:13:27.000 People say, if they came to my gun, they'd have a fight.

02:13:31.000 Well, you know what?

02:13:31.000 Those 50 Airborne Rangers would win that fight.

02:13:35.000 They didn't come to your house nice and knock your door saying, may we please see your gun.

02:13:38.000 They came in force. 0.97

02:13:39.000 They came with a full contingency of troops to go in and take your weapon.

02:13:45.000 And they entered houses with their guns drawn.

02:13:47.000 That's why I put that ABC News story up, because people forgot about that story.

02:13:50.000 And I was told that that story had actually been pulled before it even got to run.

02:13:54.000 I don't know if that's true or not.

02:13:56.000 But to me, when you see armed troops in your country, not Not to police officers, even if police officers are doing this, but when you see armed troops in your country go into houses unannounced with their guns drawn to search through your goods as if you have firearms, and if you do, or if you make the wrong move, you're either arrested or shot, that's a major red flag.

02:14:18.000 That should have been the number one story worldwide, and it didn't even make a whisper.

02:14:23.000 The news kind of ignored it.

02:14:24.000 Now, things didn't degenerate immediately.

02:14:28.000 There were some problems, but it got worse and worse because no help Did come.

02:14:33.000 No, that's right.

02:14:34.000 No, that didn't come whatsoever.

02:14:35.000 I'm sorry, go ahead and make your point.

02:14:36.000 Well, no, it's just in past hurricanes...

02:14:39.000 The military would swoop in with food, directing traffic, helping.

02:14:42.000 It was an automatic default position.

02:14:46.000 The police didn't leave.

02:14:47.000 And the crises were dealt with.

02:14:50.000 Why was it different here?

02:14:51.000 Why was there the big stand down?

02:14:53.000 They let things break down for four or five days?

02:14:55.000 I have yet to hear a reason why.

02:14:57.000 And I've asked, let me tell you, I've asked everyone until I was blue in the face why.

02:15:00.000 Why, how come afterwards it's so few families?

02:15:03.000 There's an article that I pulled off your site, from MSNBC, where less than one quarter of one percent of the actual number of families who are supposed to have gotten the help from Katrina got it.

02:15:13.000 Well, we know what happened, and people say, well, it was an embarrassment for Bush. 0.97

02:15:17.000 Bush is a puppet.

02:15:18.000 Over a hundred plus million dollars has been paid out, even more will be paid out, much of it in no-bid contracts. 0.94

02:15:24.000 By it being a disaster, Now FEMA gets to say we need more powers, more funding, because we screwed up.

02:15:32.000 It's order out of chaos.

02:15:34.000 By screwing up, and that's why they blocked the tens of thousands of police and firemen that swarmed in from Texas.

02:15:40.000 And the Red Cross who wanted to go in with food, who were not allowed to enter the city.

02:15:44.000 And even Walmart, and even the Coast Guard, they said no!

02:15:50.000 And they even made emergency managers sit there for four or five days while their mother died.

02:15:56.000 And because he got the dates wrong, because Aaron Broussard got the dates wrong and that woman died, ABC News or NBC News busted his chops over calling him a liar because he got the date wrong of her death.

02:16:07.000 But it's admitted that she did die from days of being left there.

02:16:10.000 That's a fact.

02:16:11.000 That's an absolute fact.

02:16:14.000 A real flesh-and-blood American died because help that's supposed to come didn't come. 0.62

02:16:20.000 Yet the story wasn't that for some reason to the news the story was Aaron Broussard got the data for death wrong.

02:16:24.000 That's how warped the corporate news of America is.

02:16:27.000 Well then they even went in and busted a few people who'd left folks at nursing homes but nobody in the government that orchestrated all this got in trouble.

02:16:37.000 Alex, here's something sicker.

02:16:39.000 I want people to look this up because I've been trying to look it up and again I'm not an attorney.

02:16:43.000 Maybe an attorney can look this up.

02:16:44.000 In Louisiana, the legislature passed a law so that no city, parish, or state employer or public official can get in legal trouble or be sued in court for civil damages resulting from Hurricane Katrina.

02:16:56.000 Amazing.

02:16:57.000 Stay there.

02:16:58.000 Let's talk about it when we get back.

02:16:58.000 I want to talk about what you saw, what's in the film.

02:17:01.000 I have seen a lot of the raw footage.

02:17:05.000 I've seen the film and I've seen some of the clips on the web.

02:17:08.000 We'll be right back.

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02:21:26.000 The film is Refuge at Last Resort.

02:21:29.000 We've got links to where you can get it.

02:21:33.000 We're joined by filmmaker James L. Bills who lived through it.

02:21:36.000 When we come back in the next segment, I'll play that ABC News clip.

02:21:40.000 What about some of the clubs we've got a link to up on InfoWars.com over to your site?

02:21:44.000 What will people see if they go to the site there?

02:21:47.000 Well, the first thing they'll see, again, let me go ahead so I know I'm talking about it.

02:21:52.000 The first thing they'll see, of course, is that important ABC News story.

02:21:55.000 I try to go and find, because in my documentary I only make it a point to show what I saw so I can say firsthand, yep, I saw that.

02:22:01.000 I can prove that happened.

02:22:03.000 Call me a liar.

02:22:04.000 Here it is.

02:22:05.000 But the ABC News and the other news stories that are on there are basically to show the American people That one of them is a gentleman who's an attorney, a wealthy attorney, who's screaming, saying, why is the military invading my neighborhood?

02:22:18.000 Why are there armed troops taking me out of my house?

02:22:20.000 Get out, leave me alone! 1.00

02:22:22.000 It's not just the poor who they took this over.

02:22:25.000 They, for some reason, put the kibosh in all of New Orleans.

02:22:28.000 The other picture they'll see is the police literally looting the Walmart.

02:22:33.000 And Gabriel and I were Some of the first civilians in Walmart that the police let in, and when the police let us in the Walmart, just so everyone knows, they saved our lives by letting us go get food and supplies.

02:22:44.000 They were very nice at first.

02:22:46.000 Apparently, all hell broke loose once we got out of there, because they had gunfights, and they were tasering people, but probably for taking all the Xbox, like we saw them taking, or even... And again, I hate to say this, because so many New Orleans police officers did do the right thing, but so many did not.

02:23:01.000 We did see a lot of New Orleans police officers taking things they shouldn't have taken.

02:23:05.000 Well, that's the point.

02:23:06.000 The society's degenerated, and so the police have degenerated as well.

02:23:09.000 Well, Alex, we live in a nation where the overly wealthy are starving to death and the overly poor are morbidly obese.

02:23:17.000 So, we live in a very topsy-turvy nation right now, but the biggest thing about Katrina to me, and the reason I'm trying to get the word out the way I am, is because of the media's ultimate failure to get any real stories out.

02:23:27.000 One of the stories, and again, people, if anyone knows any, you can email me in my site.

02:23:31.000 The site is refugeoflastresort.net.

02:23:33.000 If anyone knows Any guardsman who really was there, because when Al Gomez and I were there doing the interviews of Gabriel and his friends that were still in the Park St.

02:23:43.000 Charles on September 11th of 2005, we were told that on that day the National Guard had shot and killed 90 plus people who were looting in New Orleans.

02:23:51.000 In the outside world, did that ever make the news?

02:23:54.000 Well, we know that there were huge gunfights, people being shot, cops would be shooting at an alligator, people would freak out and start shooting, you know, rescue workers or workers.

02:24:04.000 That's a fact, that's a fact.

02:24:06.000 Yeah, so we know a lot of people got killed, I don't know, about 90 plus, but we know that they also cordoned off a lot of houses.

02:24:12.000 They did, they actually put the fences up around things, they actually put a fence up around the bus station and made that into a temporary jail where people were stuck in for months with no jurisprudence whatsoever.

02:24:21.000 You know, and Again, society broke down, and when people say it was Mad Max, it was Mad Max all the way, but the press really seemed not to press it.

02:24:28.000 For some reason, they really didn't want to show how bad it was.

02:24:30.000 And so, when it's Mad Max, if you're high and dry with your family and plenty of food, in a week, troops are going to show up.

02:24:37.000 They're going to kick your door down.

02:24:39.000 And arrest you, right.

02:24:40.000 And arrest you, take your guns, and then stick your kid on a plane that flies off and then put you in some camp. 0.93

02:24:47.000 And this is the drill.

02:24:49.000 Look, my belief from all the evidence is that this was a laboratory.

02:24:54.000 They tried to frustrate it and make it as bad as possible to test out their population management systems.

02:25:00.000 And they saw an opportunity and they did just that.

02:25:02.000 This was for some reason because no sane government would respond this way.

02:25:07.000 No rational person sitting in public office would say, yes, let's do that.

02:25:12.000 Let's not send food in for four days.

02:25:14.000 And when we do send food, first let's send armed troops to round people up.

02:25:17.000 You know, they waited until people were so weak they couldn't fight back at all, then sent the troops in.

02:25:22.000 That's what it appeared like to me.

02:25:24.000 And again, in the preview, Gabriel makes the point, if our military did this in any country in the world, it would be an atrocity, it would be a war crime.

02:25:33.000 But because it's happened on American soil, it makes it that much more of an atrocity.

02:25:36.000 And when he said that, I was sitting there ready to cry my eyes out because he nailed it on the head.

02:25:42.000 I mean, in the history of the United States, this has never happened before.

02:25:46.000 Where they're armed, and people try to say, oh, there were never any armed troops there.

02:25:50.000 There were nothing but armed troops there.

02:25:52.000 And people say, well, they didn't have their finger on the trigger.

02:25:54.000 They rolled in with their finger on the trigger.

02:25:56.000 They rolled in waving to you with one hand while their finger was on the trigger with the other hand.

02:26:00.000 And it blew my mind.

02:26:02.000 And again, One thing to say, when you're dealing with troops, stay rational.

02:26:06.000 Don't lose your composure.

02:26:08.000 When they talk to you, Al Gomez was detained in front of my house by armed National Guardsmen aiming their weapons at him.

02:26:15.000 And when I came out, of course, with my camera, I had to shut it off immediately, so in the film you see there are nine frames of a National Guard truck with a guy hanging at the top with a machine gun, another guy walking towards Al with a machine gun, and they basically interrogated us, wanted to see where we were from, The good news is, after they talked to us for probably 20 minutes or so, they mellowed out.

02:26:34.000 They're like, well, we're under orders.

02:26:36.000 You know, we'd love to let you go back to your house and take your goods.

02:26:38.000 We're under orders.

02:26:39.000 You're not allowed to get anything out of your house.

02:26:40.000 You must leave now.

02:26:41.000 Thank you.

02:26:43.000 And my thing is, don't go after the troops.

02:26:44.000 Go after who laid down the orders.

02:26:45.000 Someone had to give that troop an order.

02:26:48.000 And then they tried to deny there was gun confiscation going on, but then the mayor bragged, yeah, we're taking your guns.

02:26:54.000 I tell you, it's amazing.

02:26:56.000 Stay there.

02:26:56.000 We're going to talk more about what you actually witnessed and what eyewitnesses told you when we get back.

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02:30:29.000 They go into an old lady's house, they grab her gun, they tackle her, they take her gun away. 0.97

02:30:33.000 Now this is in the wealthiest area.

02:30:36.000 In fact, I've got an architecture book that even has in this video clip one of these houses.

02:30:41.000 It was built by one of the richest people, I forget his name, there in New Orleans a hundred and something years ago.

02:30:47.000 They're in the wealthiest area, high and dry, they got power, they got everything, their own generators.

02:30:53.000 We're not bringing you food five, six days after.

02:30:55.000 We're coming to take your guns.

02:30:57.000 The troops need to be prepared to do this.

02:31:00.000 And all over the country, I got video of our military going back eight, nine years ago, training to take our guns and admitting it.

02:31:08.000 So here it is.

02:31:09.000 We'll go back to our guest.

02:31:11.000 That includes New Orleans, where today authorities stepped up their efforts to empty the city.

02:31:16.000 Bob Woodruff is there again tonight with an extraordinary human drama unfolding.

02:31:20.000 Bob?

02:31:22.000 That's true, Elizabeth, and good evening from New Orleans.

02:31:24.000 Here, the police and the National Guard find themselves in a very difficult position tonight to try to carry out an order to force people from the city without actually using force.

02:31:39.000 Today in New Orleans, they got a lot tougher on the holdouts.

02:31:44.000 Not only the flooded areas, but New Orleans' driest and wealthiest neighborhoods, too.

02:31:50.000 Police Department!

02:31:51.000 The police and National Guard going street by street, house to house.

02:31:58.000 We need to make sure, too, that whenever we knock on doors, people refuse to leave.

02:32:01.000 We need to make note, call again.

02:32:04.000 They say there are no orders to use force, just strong persuasion.

02:32:08.000 Sometimes entering open houses with guns drawn.

02:32:12.000 And instructions to disarm anyone inside.

02:32:16.000 You say guns will be taken.

02:32:17.000 No one will be able to be armed.

02:32:19.000 We will take all weapons.

02:32:20.000 That happened today in this wealthy neighborhood where homeowners had armed themselves to protect their mansions.

02:32:27.000 Residents were handcuffed on the ground.

02:32:30.000 In the end, police took their weapons but let them stay in their homes.

02:32:33.000 They were a little bit threatened because our weapons were bigger than their weapons.

02:32:38.000 For many of the police and guard troops, it is an uncomfortable job to do this in an American city.

02:32:44.000 This guard unit occupied a church using it as a base camp.

02:32:48.000 They had to leave a note because they could not get hold of the pastor to get permission.

02:32:51.000 It is, it is surreal.

02:32:54.000 You just never, you never expect to do this in your own country.

02:32:58.000 Chris Montgomery says he'd rather be in Iraq than patrolling American neighborhoods.

02:33:02.000 Walking up and down these streets, you don't, you don't want to think about the stuff that you're going to have to do.

02:33:07.000 Somebody pops around the corner. 0.99

02:33:08.000 I mean, shoot an American. 1.00

02:33:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:33:13.000 Claim in the piece, good propaganda, that's why they send Mr. Woodruff over to Iraq to get his face blown off.

02:33:19.000 See how the New World Order treated you there, buddy?

02:33:21.000 He sits there, for some gun confiscation over there, he sits there and says they, you know, went in and didn't use force and they were nice, and it shows them slamming people down on the ground, their faces on the ground, taking their guns.

02:33:34.000 But that's how propaganda works.

02:33:36.000 They say one thing verbally, showing you another.

02:33:39.000 You gotta see the video.

02:33:40.000 And we've got links to it up on Infowars.com right now.

02:33:44.000 Going back to our guest, the filmmaker of Refuge of Last Resort, a film you've got to get, James L. Bills.

02:33:52.000 James, your comments on that piece and what you saw and what others witnessed and what eyewitnesses told you went on with the gun confiscation.

02:33:59.000 Again, with my own eyes.

02:34:01.000 Well, myself, okay, on Saturday, Saturday after the hurricane, they had finally cleared out the convention center and they put up those pretty little porta-potties Even though no one was there now, that was immediate sense as well, they had stacks and stacks and stacks of boxes of MREs.

02:34:16.000 Well, I still didn't know if we were going to be able to get out of there, so I said, may I please have a box of MREs?

02:34:21.000 And they, you know, they argued with me for a second, you can only have one single MRE to sustain yourself, that's it, the rest of these are for us, you can't have any.

02:34:29.000 And they noticed that I had basically a buck pocket knife.

02:34:32.000 And they frisked me, patted me down, took my buck knife away from me.

02:34:35.000 And that was Again, hands-on, and that's when I realized that things were happening that way.

02:34:40.000 Yeah, you're literally in Escape from New York, Hearts of Darkness, Road Warrior with Mel Gibson, Apocalypto.

02:34:47.000 You're in the middle of this hell, and you're obviously not a threat.

02:34:51.000 There's no assessment, no, you know, proper police work being done.

02:34:55.000 It's just, we're going to For basically a week, we were the law on that square block city of New Orleans.

02:35:02.000 Hey, listen, I trained the police and the military that an armed citizen is the enemy, and we're all enemies of the government.

02:35:07.000 Well, you saw those masked men with Bushmasters were set up in front of our hotel the next day.

02:35:13.000 And we, again, by that time, the owner of the hotel had already brought generators in, he brought in air movers to blow air to the hotel.

02:35:20.000 There were military troops everywhere, but on the corner of our hotel, they drop off two guys with black masks on, Bushmasters, Hey, who was the, I forget his name, the black general who two weeks later finally showed up?

02:35:33.000 General Honore.

02:35:33.000 Yeah, a good guy it seemed like, because there he is on TV going, STOP AIMING GUNS AT PEOPLE!

02:35:38.000 WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?

02:35:40.000 They credit that as happening on September 2nd, but that could not have possibly happened on September 2nd, because on September 2nd there were still armed troops moving into the city everywhere.

02:35:49.000 I mean, they had to get the date wrong on that, because every report I see says that happened September 2nd.

02:35:54.000 No way did that happen!

02:35:55.000 I was physically on the ground when he supposedly said that to happen, and there were troops with guns everywhere.

02:36:01.000 There were armed Army Airborne Rangers there on the ground, Alex.

02:36:05.000 And that was one of the creepiest things.

02:36:06.000 When we finally got out of that city, when it was finally, it was Sunday, we had finally got ahold of a vehicle, of a relative, we were able to get out.

02:36:12.000 We had to go down to St. 0.94

02:36:13.000 Charles at night, and it was probably midnight.

02:36:16.000 There are no lights anywhere, the city is black as it can be.

02:36:18.000 The only light lighting up as we're driving literally on the streetcar track, because the streets have too much debris in them.

02:36:25.000 And we see military vehicles everywhere, and there's soldiers walking around with the night vision goggles on like in Iraq.

02:36:30.000 I almost, again, messed my pants when I saw that.

02:36:33.000 Now let's be clear.

02:36:36.000 Tens of thousands of firemen and police from all over the U.S.

02:36:40.000 showed up within days and they said you can't go in.

02:36:43.000 People with boats came to help.

02:36:44.000 You can't go in.

02:36:45.000 And instead we have gang member cops inside telling good-looking women you gotta show me your breasts, you gotta give me some honey if you want us to help you. 1.00

02:36:54.000 And old people dying and starving everywhere and shooting. 0.74

02:36:59.000 Getting no help too.

02:37:00.000 Yeah, getting no help.

02:37:01.000 I mean, let's be clear.

02:37:01.000 That's right.

02:37:02.000 So then they come five, six, seven days later.

02:37:04.000 Hey, we're here to help you. 0.99

02:37:05.000 We're here to put a gun to your head. 0.96

02:37:07.000 And again, our military is a phenomenal military, but if someone orders them to go and to do it, you know what? 0.93

02:37:14.000 They're going to do what they're ordered to do.

02:37:16.000 What about all the video of the police, though, you know, out there looting and lawless and demanding favors?

02:37:21.000 Again, we saw that firsthand.

02:37:23.000 Again, we saw that firsthand.

02:37:25.000 Here's what the video of the police that is not out there.

02:37:27.000 If you go to my site, there's a link to the actual National Professional Photojournalist Association.

02:37:34.000 Describing in detail how the police would surround the press vehicles to take their cameras and their chips away from them, their cards from their cameras away.

02:37:41.000 Oh, there was AP reporters who reported a captain walking up with troops with handguns and said, if you report on the things you've just seen, we're going to kill you. 0.99

02:37:51.000 We kill reporters in Iraq and we will kill you. 0.98

02:37:54.000 And they had to be given orders to be talking like that. 0.99

02:37:58.000 See, we actually were told we would be relocated if we told anything or seen take any more video.

02:38:03.000 We were told we would be relocated.

02:38:05.000 Over one of the special areas, yeah.

02:38:07.000 But I mean, in your own country, I always thought in America you could walk around with a videotape, with a video camera.

02:38:13.000 If you saw something happen, you could videotape it, but apparently you cannot.

02:38:16.000 No, the government looks at us with cameras and puts them in school bathrooms, hooked into the police department, but we're not to film God.

02:38:23.000 See, the state is God, we're the slaves.

02:38:25.000 But don't let me cut you off.

02:38:26.000 You said that they would, of course this has been in the press, they would surround the press, you were the enemy too.

02:38:32.000 Tell us about that.

02:38:33.000 I'll quote it to you exactly.

02:38:34.000 This is a professional press photographer.

02:38:35.000 for these are his own words.

02:38:37.000 We came upon a body while driving, apparently shot by the police.

02:38:40.000 While I was still driving, I took a few photos through the open window and I heard an officer yell, get that camera now.

02:38:45.000 About a half a dozen cops started running towards the car and he said, since the car was still in motion, I saw them drawing and raising their guns, I slammed on the brakes.

02:38:55.000 That happened in America.

02:38:56.000 Oh, then they would have.

02:38:56.000 It didn't happen in Baghdad.

02:38:57.000 They would have and claimed you were another looter.

02:38:59.000 That did not happen in Baghdad.

02:39:00.000 That happened in the United States of America.

02:39:03.000 And that's another thing.

02:39:04.000 I felt if President Bush knew this was happening... Well, see, the answer is guns.

02:39:08.000 We have criminals open fire on you for no reason.

02:39:10.000 You've got to defend yourself.

02:39:13.000 There was so much shooting going on, and there were snipers, there were police snipers, there were military snipers across the street from the hotel we were in.

02:39:20.000 Well, this is chances for guys who have never been in the military to really go, quote, fight an enemy, and the enemy was starving people, so it's a power trip.

02:39:27.000 It's true.

02:39:28.000 They might have sold hunting licenses. 1.00

02:39:29.000 Go kill some Americans. 1.00

02:39:31.000 It's fun. 0.99

02:39:31.000 The Blackwater mercenaries, when they showed up, and they were real Blackwater mercenaries complete with the bear claws, and I had no idea what a bear claw patch meant. 0.99

02:39:38.000 I was like, what is that?

02:39:40.000 And these guys were very well armed.

02:39:42.000 Running around in black masks.

02:39:44.000 And it was black.

02:39:45.000 And I was like, why are there mercenaries on the ground?

02:39:47.000 I mean... And then we heard they weren't armed.

02:39:53.000 What really happened?

02:39:54.000 That's another thing.

02:39:55.000 I kept getting told by so many people, yeah, but they weren't armed.

02:39:58.000 We've seen the news.

02:39:58.000 Yeah, but they weren't armed.

02:39:59.000 They weren't armed.

02:40:00.000 I challenge anyone in any frame of photography we took or video we took to show me an unarmed soldier.

02:40:06.000 I mean, and again, when the fire, in my film, a hotel bookstore catches on fire, the whole building ends up burning down, right about two blocks away from us.

02:40:14.000 A few men from the fire department show up trying to put it out, but there's no real fire department there, the building burns to the ground.

02:40:19.000 We tried to walk the block there, and out of nowhere, men in black masks and hoods and high-powered rifles hop up and stop us dead in our tracks.

02:40:27.000 Out of nowhere!

02:40:28.000 And like, where are these guys hiding?

02:40:29.000 I mean, God forbid, you know, we'd be actual, you know, we'd be actual, I guess, Bad guys, I guess they would have shot us on sight, but because we had, you know, two women with us, my wife being one of us, being one of the people... What did they say to you?

02:40:42.000 They actually said, uh, get the F back where you were, get the F down, that kind of stuff.

02:40:47.000 When, uh... Now, now, let's be clear.

02:40:49.000 They block the highways, won't let people walk out, put them for five, six days in a, in a, in a excrement-laden, uh, facility full of dead bodies and other detritus and raping going on.

02:41:03.000 Let's be clear though, they have huge piles of food and MREs for at least two days, won't give it to people.

02:41:07.000 Won't share it with anybody, that's right.

02:41:09.000 Just huge, the more helicopters bring it, just a few greedy troops.

02:41:12.000 Stars!

02:41:13.000 None of it for you! 1.00

02:41:14.000 Literally sitting on huge piles of it, just a feeling of hatred for America, hatred of the people, the slaves don't deserve anything, and then, so you can't get out, you can't get food, and you're walking around, mercenary scum comes up and cusses at you. 0.99

02:41:29.000 Now, at our hotel, that's another thing, when Melissa, who is Gabriel's wife, tried to go out and talk to a police officer, when we finally, this was Tuesday evening, finally saw police officers come up, they drew their guns on her, a little skinny white woman, couldn't weigh more than 90 pounds, unarmed, wearing a tank top because it's 103 degrees outside, yelled at her, get the F on the ground or we will shoot you. 0.99

02:41:51.000 Just like that.

02:41:52.000 No, how can we help you?

02:41:53.000 Yes, you know, nothing pleasant in any way, shape, or form.

02:41:59.000 Well, you know how to not get in trouble in any emergency.

02:42:01.000 Just have a black mask and a bunch of gear, and stick some official patch on it, and they'll go, oh, fellow God!

02:42:08.000 Fellow God!

02:42:09.000 Oh my gosh, it's a fellow God!

02:42:11.000 We're going to be self-sufficient.

02:42:13.000 We learned that you will be self-sufficient.

02:42:14.000 You will hide. 0.92

02:42:15.000 You've got to dress like an Inquisitor, Ringwraith, Nazgul, Nazi, Executioner. 0.97

02:42:21.000 You'll be fine now.

02:42:22.000 I would have never guessed in a thousand years when FEMA was on the radio saying that we've already pre-positioned troops and our help and help is coming in, that the help would come in the form of masked and heavily armored Soldiers.

02:42:34.000 And again, even at the airport, they were everywhere.

02:42:37.000 Now, they were also being led by FBI and the big flatback trucks in their black masks.

02:42:45.000 Was this a great time of manliness and enjoyment?

02:42:48.000 This seemed to me like basically a bunch of guys who wanted to play war games, like you said, are finally getting a chance to play war games, and then all they have to do is fly overseas.

02:42:55.000 They can do it right here.

02:42:56.000 And again, I love our military.

02:42:58.000 Oh yeah, a lot of these pro-gun, fake conservative cops and military, they'd love to take your guns. 0.99

02:43:03.000 They'd love to put you in a FEMA camp, folks. 0.95

02:43:05.000 They love it.

02:43:06.000 It's being manly.

02:43:07.000 A man isn't helping weak people. 0.99

02:43:09.000 Now listen, I had family on the helicopters doing the insertions and saving people, and there was some of that going on, but the security people on the ground were a pack of criminals.

02:43:20.000 Well, you know who was very polite, shockingly, and I think they were so polite because they felt so awkward, Were in fact the Airborne Army Rangers.

02:43:27.000 They were horrendously polite.

02:43:28.000 The actual trained military. 0.99

02:43:30.000 Not Cobra Commander, Goon, Scum, Nobodies. 0.75

02:43:35.000 Plus the Airborne Rangers aren't used to just shoving civilians around. 0.93

02:43:38.000 Period.

02:43:39.000 So the cops had the enjoyment.

02:43:41.000 And it was an enjoyment feeding frenzy.

02:43:44.000 So the troops weren't.

02:43:45.000 I mean real troops weren't.

02:43:46.000 No, the Airborne Rangers were very polite.

02:43:49.000 Because again, we actually had to go.

02:43:51.000 The owner of the hotel we were in owned another hotel called the Le Cirque.

02:43:55.000 We had to go steal diesel fuel for the generator because we again we had one basically one light socket per floor and that's what we plug everything into is that light socket because we had to have power to recharge batteries to basically function and it came in very handy but we had to go steal diesel fuel from another hotel that was a part of the family and when the Everton Rangers came up they could have just shot us as looters but they didn't they were you know instead they Talk to us, what are you guys doing?

02:44:21.000 Well, number one, in a total breakdown society, if people are getting subsistence materials, it's in the handbooks, not to shoot them. 0.98

02:44:27.000 You shoot violent looters. 0.99

02:44:30.000 You shoot, you know, you sit there quietly in your position, and you wait for somebody to be running around waving a gun or beating people, and then you shoot them. 1.00

02:44:37.000 You don't just run around shooting people because you want to kill, because you're a real man. 0.63

02:44:41.000 Now, by Wednesday evening, I'd say that the trucks full of armed civilians who are going around robbing people kind of disappeared, and they were, again, Imagine walking out in your street and right by you goes a red pickup truck with about four guys with shotguns looking around for people to rob.

02:44:56.000 I'd open fire.

02:44:57.000 You know what I'd do? 1.00

02:44:59.000 I'd kill so many of those people. 1.00

02:45:00.000 I mean, I'm not sitting here saying I'm a tough guy, but come on, folks. 1.00

02:45:04.000 It'd be just like shooting a herd of hogs running around.

02:45:06.000 That's why I was glad we had Gabriel with us, who had his guns with us.

02:45:10.000 Unfortunately, Gabriel brought his guns to keep them safe in case his house flooded.

02:45:13.000 We had very few rounds of ammunition.

02:45:15.000 In fact, what I've read about Yeah, I'd worry about my life.

02:45:18.000 I'd take two and it's tons of ammo.

02:45:20.000 Yeah.

02:45:22.000 Again, a lot of the accounts are, though, that what stopped the total looting before the military and police came in was that a lot of neighborhoods were armed.

02:45:30.000 Yeah.

02:45:32.000 On the Wednesday after the storm, we went down St.

02:45:34.000 Charles to, again, go to the other hotel to get more provisions, and we actually found the freezer with breakfast pastries that weren't entirely melted, so we had a treat.

02:45:44.000 Basically, every group we passed had guns.

02:45:45.000 We'd all just kind of nod to each other, like, yeah, that's your group, here's our group, and there was no animosity at all.

02:45:50.000 But it was odd.

02:45:51.000 Again, it was cowboys and Indians. 1.00

02:45:52.000 Everyone on the street had their own guns, had their own weapons, because you had to, out of necessity.

02:45:57.000 If you did not, again, you'd be beaten like that poor guy who died at the convention center, who we took over there.

02:46:02.000 And there was actually, when we went to Walmart, I thought we were going to die, because we didn't have any guns whatsoever.

02:46:08.000 Like retards, we had a lot of cash on us, because we figured we'd have to pay stuff at the Walmart. 1.00

02:46:14.000 And when the first big truckload of guys unloaded right near us to see what we had in our cars, we thought they were going to kill us.

02:46:19.000 But as soon as we said, no, it's at Wal-Mart, they're giving things away for free, they piled back in their vehicle and drove to Wal-Mart.

02:46:25.000 It was, uh... Were these gang member types?

02:46:27.000 Who was mainly in the trucks?

02:46:29.000 The worst gang member types are the worst gang member types you can imagine.

02:46:33.000 Gang members on the prowl.

02:46:35.000 And, uh...

02:46:36.000 And Gabriel picked up a couple of rocks and was like, if these guys go after us, they're just going to shoot us to death.

02:46:41.000 And of course, those guys all disappeared the minute the troops and police got there, who should have been there from minute one, as they have been in past problems, and that's why we haven't had problems.

02:46:51.000 But of course, no, no, no, no, no.

02:46:53.000 Then they have to just go after everybody, the little families, and got to aim guns at little kids with mommy.

02:46:58.000 And they did it.

02:47:00.000 They aimed weapons at my children.

02:47:01.000 I have a two-year-old daughter who had a military man aim a gun at her.

02:47:05.000 A two-year-old Little girl with the most beautiful eyes.

02:47:08.000 And when I saw the alleged Katrina hearings, and a congressman yelled at a woman because she said a National Guardsman aimed his gun at my child, calling her a liar. 1.00

02:47:16.000 That guy's a piece of garbage. 1.00

02:47:18.000 Oh, they're a bunch of criminal filth. 1.00

02:47:19.000 You know, that guy's a piece of... because that happened, that happened in America on our soil. 0.99

02:47:23.000 American soldiers aimed their weapons at American children for no reason whatsoever.

02:47:29.000 That happened, and that should go down in history.

02:47:31.000 People should, and this is another thing, Alex, if I left my car at the mall, and I said, Alex, my car is at the mall right now, and my kids are in it, would you go get them?

02:47:39.000 Instead of going to get them, you sent a couple of your buddies over with guns to keep them in the car until you got there, and in the four days they died, you'd go to prison, wouldn't you?

02:47:47.000 Yes.

02:47:48.000 Who's going to prison over Katrina for abandoning these people?

02:47:51.000 Oh no, they're going to get more FEMA funding, more control, and be our gods! 0.99

02:47:56.000 People need to go to prison, Alex.

02:47:57.000 That's my opinion.

02:47:58.000 They do.

02:47:59.000 Stay there.

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02:52:30.000 That's exactly what it looks like.

02:52:32.000 So do you feel confident that if there's ever a big crisis where you live in South Texas, the government will come save you?

02:52:38.000 Um, no.

02:52:39.000 Any city this happens to will suffer the same fate as New Orleans, unfortunately.

02:52:43.000 The government does not learn lessons, apparently.

02:52:45.000 And if it did, again, if this accidentally happened, Shame on everyone involved.

02:52:49.000 But how did we change?

02:52:50.000 How did we change?

02:52:51.000 Because there have been some looting, some problems in South Florida or in Puerto Rico, but it's never been even one-tenth of this.

02:52:57.000 And in the past, they came in, they got order, they were, you know, they assessed things, they were friendly to some extent.

02:53:04.000 I mean, what was different?

02:53:05.000 I mean, is this just that our military, our police have changed, or what happened?

02:53:09.000 I think that the people in charge took the wrong steps.

02:53:11.000 On the local level, they didn't plan correctly.

02:53:14.000 Again, for days beforehand, they're telling us it's coming, it's coming, get ready, it's coming, it's coming.

02:53:18.000 When it finally came, they're like, holy cow, that came here?

02:53:21.000 You know, that's the first step.

02:53:22.000 Step two was, again, the military and FEMA moving in.

02:53:26.000 And like you said, Harry Lee had to send his SWAT team to get the Jefferson Parish water back because FEMA took their water from them.

02:53:34.000 You know, FEMA moved in and what few supply people did have, the government took away from them.

02:53:40.000 Still left them abandoned.

02:53:41.000 That's all standard.

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02:53:46.000 So I don't think they screwed up in Iraq.

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02:54:01.000 Very good.

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Alex Jones Show - December 26, 2006

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