Alex Jones Show - 20070201_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:26.000 The big event is coming up tonight here in Austin, Texas.

00:00:29.000 It's absolutely free.

00:00:32.000 On this first day of February 2007, put on by the Project for a New American Citizen student group, and George Humphries is going to speak first for about 30 minutes, then talk show host Jack Blood, and then of course myself for about an hour, and then we're going to, all three of us, get up there and take about 30-45 minutes of questions.

00:00:54.000 It's going to go from 7.30 to a little bit past 10, and it's going to be extremely informative.

00:01:00.000 We'll all be speaking on Basically, issues of the War on Terror, the War on Freedom, 9-11 being an inside job, the latest developments, the upcoming planned attack on Iran, how to hopefully avert that, and a lot more concerning our society and what's happening with humankind.

00:01:15.000 That is coming up at the UT Union Ballroom, beautiful stately ballroom right underneath the UT Tower, and that is coming up this evening from 730 to a little bit past 10.

00:01:27.000 We've got it until 1030, but we'll break it up by about 1015.

00:01:32.000 So that is coming up tonight.

00:01:33.000 Details and maps up on InfoWars.com.

00:01:36.000 If you even live up in Dallas or San Antonio when you get off work, jump in the car and come on down.

00:01:44.000 Folks from all over Central Texas, we'd really love to see you there as well.

00:01:48.000 All the great students down at UT and of course my fellow Austinites, Pflugervillians, Round Rockians, Taylorans, and Just many others.

00:01:59.000 You are, again, invited.

00:02:01.000 Love to see you there coming up this evening.

00:02:04.000 All right, we have Daniel Obechaike coming on the show.

00:02:08.000 He's the Londoner who was on the bus that exploded on 7-7, a little bit over an hour after the trains exploded, and he witnessed all these black-op operatives directing the bus there and waiting when it exploded once it got there. 0.90

00:02:23.000 The only major bus diverted, the only bus diverted there, That is coming up in the second hour.

00:02:30.000 We gave you shades of this yesterday with Steve Watson, actually two days ago, joining us from London.

00:02:38.000 Very important breaking news and Steve will be on with Daniel as well, coming up in the second hour.

00:02:45.000 Then we have Wayne Madsen, former NSA operator, coming on to discuss the anti-war rally in DC over the weekend that was taken over by 9-11 Truth.

00:02:55.000 Also, 9-11 Truth and Patriot videos are dominating the Google Top 100 right now.

00:03:05.000 Terror Storm was, what was it, like number 11 and number 74 last night.

00:03:12.000 There's 50-something versions that I've seen of people that have uploaded it, which kind of keeps us out of the Top 100.

00:03:17.000 But C'est La Vie, because they only count each one in its rankings, and you've got 50-something different, probably more now, uploads of it.

00:03:24.000 Different people are watching different versions.

00:03:27.000 You know, there'll be 600,000 here, 300,000 that have watched this one, 300,000 that have watched that one, 100,000 that have watched this one, 50,000 that have watched that one, 400,000 that have watched this one.

00:03:37.000 But two TerrorStorm uploads are in the top 100.

00:03:41.000 And America Freedom to Fascism went to number two late last night.

00:03:46.000 When we wrote an article about it, it was at number three.

00:03:48.000 And of course, you know what was numero uno, Loose Change Second Edition has been floating around in the top 100 for the last six months.

00:03:58.000 But it's as if Google took the brakes off, because Google has admitted that at least twice they erased our page views on all of the TerrorStorm versions.

00:04:09.000 Every time we'd go into the top 50, the top 100, racing towards number one, they would just erase all of our views.

00:04:14.000 And they said, oh, it's an accident.

00:04:16.000 Oh, we just keep doing it.

00:04:17.000 We know they did it twice.

00:04:18.000 We were told about it beforehand, but by the time we were watching it, we saw it happen twice.

00:04:22.000 They admitted in an email they'd done it.

00:04:24.000 So we know that it's more than twice.

00:04:26.000 We can confirm twice.

00:04:29.000 Why suddenly are they all not being held back?

00:04:32.000 We know Loose Change 2nd Edition also had its numbers erased around the same time.

00:04:37.000 Other videos didn't though.

00:04:38.000 It was some beautiful woman speaking in a sultry voice. 1.00

00:04:44.000 Playing ping-pong, it would stay in the top 100, but not anti-New World Order videos.

00:04:49.000 Alright, masses of news straight ahead.

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00:08:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:08.000 You will hear one of the survivors of the London bombings talking about government operatives all over the scene of the attack, directing the bus there out of hundreds of buses.

00:08:21.000 Once it got there, operatives all around the bus, it explodes, they then put on fake bandages.

00:08:26.000 Yes, this is absolute bombshell, smoking gun, and Daniel Obitake will be joining us from London, England in the second hour.

00:08:37.000 We do have Wayne Madsen, former NSA officer, joining us to break down 9-11 Truth, the latest developments and how they took over the staged anti-war rally that was in D.C.

00:08:49.000 over the weekend.

00:08:50.000 We'll also have open phones on this live Thursday edition.

00:08:56.000 But first, there has been a new development concerning John Yoo, who was one of the Chief White House Counsel's top lawyers, one of the top lawyers for President Bush, writing the supporting torture memorandum that was given to the guards, the Marine Corps guards and CIA

00:09:22.000 Interrogators, torturers at places like Camp X-Ray and of course the Army and private technician tortures at Abu Ghraib and other camps around the world including over two dozen in Eastern and Central Europe in the former Soviet Union.

00:09:41.000 Two of his memos written by him have been declassified as of two years ago, as well as three torture memos written by Alberto Gonzales.

00:09:51.000 Of course, Alberto Gonzales, who then became Attorney General, wrote that the President was literally the law, not above the law, but the law, and that he had the power of a sovereign king.

00:10:05.000 We've read these memos on air.

00:10:06.000 They're in my film, Terror Storm.

00:10:08.000 And that they could torture someone until they died, and if they didn't kill you on purpose, it was okay.

00:10:17.000 They could stop breathing, organ failure, everything, as long as they didn't mean to kill you.

00:10:22.000 So everything up until death, and if they kill you on accident, you can just say it's an accident, then it's okay.

00:10:30.000 And we know it's included things I can't even mention on air.

00:10:34.000 But it is in the official Army report.

00:10:38.000 Just go read it.

00:10:39.000 MSNBC has a copy of it.

00:10:41.000 We have a copy of it, but you won't believe it if it's on PrisonPlanet.com or Infowars.com.

00:10:45.000 Just go read it.

00:10:47.000 They're on MSNBC's website.

00:10:49.000 It's also on the National Archives website, where they talk about children being raped, women being raped, when they talk about them being raped in front of their mothers and fathers. 0.99

00:11:00.000 Uh... and again this is because the sickos that run the government like to do this. 0.99

00:11:04.000 This was just indiscriminate at Abu Ghraib. 0.94

00:11:06.000 At Camp X-Ray, it concerns satanic rituals.

00:11:11.000 Uh, and blood, uh, prostitutes flown in, uh, and I'm just going to leave it at that, with blood, uh, in Arabic saying satanic chants to completely terrify them while smearing them with blood. 0.85

00:11:24.000 Again, that's mainstream news. 0.99

00:11:27.000 So, raping children, blood, uh, sex, uh, just, just, I mean, you cannot get more sick. 1.00

00:11:34.000 This is as sick as it gets. 1.00

00:11:37.000 And I guess not to be overdone by Alberto Gonzalez, his deputy, his chief deputy, John Eube, wrote that small children could have their genitals crushed by pliers, by vice grips.

00:11:57.000 And last year we interviewed Professor Kessel, who is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, And we've played the audio tape here where they bring this up to them at a closed-door, secret Council on Foreign Relations meeting in Chicago, at the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations branch, the second-largest meeting branch in the country.

00:12:16.000 The main headquarters, obviously, is in New York, and we've been there and protested them there.

00:12:22.000 And when Johnny brings it up, you hear kind of a hiss and a small boo, because they're so upset with him.

00:12:29.000 And then the Professor Castle, you know, says, do you believe the President has the power to order this?

00:12:34.000 And he said, yes, I do.

00:12:36.000 So, and, you know, did you write that?

00:12:38.000 Did you say he has the power?

00:12:40.000 And John, you said, well, yes, he does have that power.

00:12:42.000 So chanting satanic slogans, blood being used and, you know, bathing them in it.

00:12:52.000 Can you imagine what these people think of us? 0.97

00:12:55.000 I mean, blood and raping and children. 0.93

00:12:58.000 I mean, this is just off the charts! 0.96

00:13:00.000 This is like Saw 3 or something.

00:13:03.000 This is like some horrible, you know, horror movie made by Quentin Tarantino, I guess, like hostile.

00:13:10.000 I haven't seen it, but I've read the synopsis of it.

00:13:14.000 But it's our government doing it.

00:13:17.000 And why do I bring this up?

00:13:18.000 There has been a new development. 0.97

00:13:22.000 There has been a new development video of torture master John Yoo being asked to justify crushing children's testicles comments.

00:13:30.000 This is up on Infowars.net with the video shot by one of our listeners.

00:13:35.000 We are very professionally done.

00:13:37.000 We thank you for doing this.

00:13:39.000 Please send us the raw video so we can put it in the film.

00:13:43.000 Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please.

00:13:49.000 Because, frankly, I didn't want to announce this, but in a few months we are going to have a second edition of Terror Storm.

00:13:57.000 John Yoo is already in it.

00:13:58.000 I'd like to have video, not just audio, and news articles about it with him admitting it.

00:14:05.000 So, I know my staff is listening.

00:14:07.000 If that listener is not tuned in and doesn't send it to me, get a hold of him and please get me that video.

00:14:14.000 But you can see the video right now in internet quality up on InfoWars.net.

00:14:18.000 It's pretty darn good there.

00:14:20.000 And for the film, I'd like to have the original digital copy. 0.66

00:14:24.000 Video of torture master John Yoo being asked to justify crushing children's testicles comments.

00:14:29.000 The Baker Institute Student Forum hosted a discussion involving three panelists on November 3rd, 2006, one of which was John Yoo, co-author of the Patriot Act, and various controversial memos.

00:14:42.000 And I guess this was in Houston.

00:14:44.000 And we've actually had this listener call in, now I remember that, Well, let's find out where it came from and get it.

00:14:52.000 Now we have the video.

00:14:53.000 So I wonder, I haven't talked to Steve yet today.

00:14:56.000 I just saw the story this morning.

00:14:57.000 I wonder how Steve knows it was him.

00:15:00.000 Maybe he was listening to the show because I remember this fellow calling in and talking about it.

00:15:03.000 Maybe he didn't shoot the video.

00:15:04.000 Well, let's find out where it came from and get it.

00:15:07.000 But I believe he did shoot it.

00:15:10.000 Again, I'm just brainstorming here on air.

00:15:12.000 This is kind of behind-the-scenes stuff I just do on air because I'm so busy.

00:15:15.000 I just give orders on air.

00:15:17.000 The Baker Institute Student Forum hosted a discussion involving three panelists on November 3rd, 2006, one of which was John Yoo, co-author of the Patriot Act and various controversial memos in which he advocated the possibility, the possible legality of torture and that enemy combatants could be denied protection under the Geneva Convention.

00:15:35.000 Decreed that it was legal to declare war anywhere, anytime, on anyone the President deemed a threat, including U.S.

00:15:41.000 citizens, I would add. 0.92

00:15:43.000 At 1 hour, 39 minutes, 43 seconds into the 2 hour, 4 minute videotape, Yu was asked by an Infowarrior reader to explain the moral justification for cresting a child's testicles or raping a child in front of the parents.

00:15:58.000 Yu backtracks on previous comments he made during the December 1st debate in Chicago with Notre Dame Professor and International Human Rights Scholar, because that was the year before, Doug Castle.

00:16:10.000 John, you gave the green light for people of torture to legally include sexual torture of infants.

00:16:18.000 And then we've got the comments on the audio clip of Castle.

00:16:22.000 But here's the audio from the new video with him.

00:16:25.000 First they bring up Gulf of Tonkin staged events, and then he brings up the torture.

00:16:29.000 Here it is.

00:16:33.000 I just want to thank you gentlemen for coming out today.

00:16:38.000 and am.

00:16:39.000 And, one, I think that there's sort of something here under the surface that's not really being discussed, and I think we still need to sort of, I feel like we're still in this sort of left-right, polarized paradigm.

00:16:51.000 There's some stuff here on the side that's not really being discussed at all that's about taking man.

00:16:56.000 For one, I want to remind everyone, since Vietnam comes up all the time, that a big portion of that was based on a lie, which was the Gulf of Tonkin. 0.86

00:17:06.000 Their government now admits that we conducted a false flag, terrorist, you know, attack, that, you know, they attacked us, so we said justification to go to war within part of justification, and that's never discussed, and it's always like, well, Vietnam was like this, well, okay, and that's never discussed, and it's always like, well, Vietnam was like this, well, okay, let's get the foundation of what Do you need a question?

00:17:28.000 Yes, I'm sorry.

00:17:29.000 I apologize.

00:17:30.000 I would like to know where the moral justification is for torturing children because they're not terrorists. 0.96

00:17:39.000 If there are, if we're torturing a terrorist, where's the moral justification for, you know, crushing its testicles, you know, raping a child in front of their parents, raping them with acid, where's the justification for that? 0.95

00:17:53.000 I am not saying that we should do any of those things. 0.99

00:17:59.000 But you did in Chicago say that the President orders that.

00:18:02.000 Jordan, I didn't.

00:18:04.000 You said yes.

00:18:06.000 Can I say what I say or do you want to leave everything you read on the internet?

00:18:13.000 Hit pause and back that up.

00:18:14.000 One of the esteemed professors slash lawyer panelists, they announced themselves, it was an hour and forty something minutes before this, Both the other lawyers are attacking him over this.

00:18:26.000 And so they're informed.

00:18:27.000 And then John Yoo says, do you believe everything you see on the Internet?

00:18:30.000 This came out in mainstream newspapers.

00:18:32.000 This was a surreptitiously recorded by Professor Castle, who was on the panel in Chicago the year before, confronting him.

00:18:41.000 But what does Yoo do? 0.94

00:18:42.000 He lies!

00:18:43.000 He says, oh, do you believe everything you see on the Internet?

00:18:47.000 I mean, we can play the clip of him again right now!

00:18:50.000 We've played it like 20 times!

00:18:55.000 Well, you know what, we'll play the rest of it when we get back from break, but back it up about 20 seconds.

00:18:59.000 So you can hear him, by the other two panelists, start going, wait a minute, you did say that!

00:19:03.000 I mean, they're not going to put up with him!

00:19:07.000 He wrote memos!

00:19:09.000 Signed by him!

00:19:11.000 Implemented his White House policy!

00:19:14.000 You know how we got these memos?

00:19:16.000 They had hearings, what, almost a year ago about this, and Alberto Gonzalez had to testify, and he entered these into public evidence!

00:19:25.000 The Attorney General is proud of these!

00:19:29.000 This has been given to the operators of the overseas camps in Europe, in the Middle East, in Central Asia, and in the Caribbean.

00:19:39.000 Cuba!

00:19:41.000 I mean, look, you said it, you did it, you wrote it, you freak! 0.88

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00:24:28.000 Think about the arrogance, the aplomb that they're greeted with by all their minions and all their yes-men.

00:24:40.000 Keep the song rolling.

00:24:42.000 Think about it. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Think about the fact that John Ewing, Alberto Gonzales and George Bush and all that sick trash thinks that they can just openly say they can torture people to death and torture small children. 1.00

00:24:54.000 The memo says, infant. 1.00

00:24:57.000 An infant.

00:24:58.000 This is who they are.

00:25:00.000 You don't need to believe in skull and bones or bohemian grub to know who they really are.

00:25:05.000 Here it is in their own words, signed, sealed under presidential letterhead.

00:25:13.000 And here's John Utrine to backpedal in Houston, Texas.

00:25:18.000 At Rice.

00:25:20.000 Here it is.

00:25:21.000 Keep rolling the video.

00:25:24.000 I'm not saying that we should do any of those things.

00:25:28.000 But you did in Chicago say if the President orders that.

00:25:31.000 Jordan, I didn't.

00:25:33.000 You said yes.

00:25:34.000 Can I say what I say or do you not believe everything you read on the internet?

00:25:42.000 What I said was that it depends.

00:25:46.000 I didn't say it has to do with law.

00:25:48.000 I was saying the law and morality are different.

00:25:51.000 And that you're asking a moral question?

00:25:53.000 Personally, I would not do any of those things under any circumstances.

00:25:57.000 But that's a different question than what the Constitution allows the President to have as Commander-in-Chief.

00:26:02.000 Right?

00:26:03.000 I'm just saying it's a moral issue.

00:26:08.000 Stop, John Yoo.

00:26:10.000 Again, now did you hear that?

00:26:12.000 That's exactly what Alberto Gonzalez said just a few weeks ago, again before the Congress, is he said, well, You know, there is no habeas corpus under the Constitution, when it's in there twice.

00:26:25.000 He said there's no right to habeas corpus, and the Senators are going, excuse me?

00:26:29.000 And that's for U.S.

00:26:31.000 citizens.

00:26:32.000 And then now here he is again saying, well, I'm not saying those things are good, but he does have the power to do it, and by the way, that's the exact type of stuff I don't know.

00:26:42.000 Not crushing with pliers.

00:26:44.000 Raping with instruments covered with acid.

00:26:47.000 I'm sorry.

00:26:49.000 We don't know about any pliers.

00:26:51.000 Keep rolling.

00:26:53.000 I don't think it's morally justified.

00:26:55.000 And, you know, if you want to listen to five-second snippets where someone can't, on the internet, where someone can't, where they cut you off before you can finish your answer.

00:27:01.000 It's like 30 minutes or an hour long.

00:27:03.000 And I was very clear after that, that, you know, morally, I was very clear at that time, right?

00:27:09.000 And I said, I don't think, I don't think... You can write it out like, yes, that's, I know how the question was asked, so... Right, so I was just saying, I don't think a treaty, I don't think a treaty can limit the President's commander-in-chief power under the Constitution.

00:27:21.000 And that's what I was saying, and I don't think that's the case.

00:27:23.000 I do... Jordan, I think, has a different view.

00:27:25.000 I think the President can violate international law, and we can pay the sanctions for it under the international legal system, but I don't think, as a constitutional matter, I could sue the President, or something like that, and say, you, the President, cannot do this action as Commander-in-Chief because we've signed a treaty saying you can't.

00:27:42.000 In fact, Presidents under our Constitution break treaties and terminate them if he wants to anyway.

00:27:46.000 So, that's what I was addressing in that.

00:27:49.000 Okay, let me comment on that.

00:27:51.000 Is the President allowed to barbecue children on the White House lawn?

00:27:57.000 Is the President allowed to snort lines of cocaine from the Oval Office on national television?

00:28:03.000 Is the President allowed to say, nuke Chicago because he feels like it?

00:28:11.000 The answer is no.

00:28:12.000 The President executes the law in very limited areas.

00:28:18.000 The president is a creature of the executive branch.

00:28:24.000 They call it the unitary executive, claiming it's over the legislative and the judicial.

00:28:29.000 If you really read the Federalist, which was even pro-centralized, they clearly say the president is the weakest.

00:28:35.000 Congress is the strongest, next is judicial, and then executive.

00:28:39.000 Why?

00:28:40.000 Because there's a greater separation of powers in the Congress with the Senators and the House members.

00:28:46.000 And there is a greater representation of the people's will through that representative republic, through that constitutional republic.

00:28:55.000 It's just off the charts that they claim this power.

00:29:00.000 They claim the power of dictatorship.

00:29:01.000 Please continue.

00:29:03.000 So, that's what I was addressing in that point, and so I'm glad you gave me the chance to clarify that.

00:29:08.000 You know, I don't think morally it would be justified.

00:29:10.000 That's a different question than the legal question.

00:29:12.000 Okay, another question.

00:29:14.000 Yes.

00:29:15.000 Yes, Professor, you said twice this afternoon that you think what was going on in the pictures of Ivan Graham was illegal, but it seems to me that given your comments in one of the movements you wrote, fighting torture, as We'll be right back and we'll finish up a few more minutes of this and we'll get into the national, international news and a lot more.

00:29:36.000 We're on the march.

00:29:37.000 The empire's on the run.

00:29:38.000 Forger, could you clarify that for me?

00:29:40.000 Well, obviously, the Geneva Conventions will probably be on.

00:29:43.000 We'll be right back, and we'll finish up a few more minutes of this, and we'll get into the national, international news, and a lot more.

00:29:49.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:12.000 Beheading brought latest terror merry-go-round.

00:33:16.000 Few Brits believe phony Tony on terror alerts anymore, so script writers changed the narrative.

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00:33:35.000 An alleged conspiracy to kidnap a British Muslim who served in Iraq and decapitated him on video is the latest terror merry-go-round to be unleashed on the British public.

00:33:46.000 From past examples, we can safely predict that within a month, the supposed plot will hold about as much credibility as yesterday's scare in Boston, where electronic advertisements for a cable cartoon were mistaken for bombs.

00:33:59.000 And by the way, don't think for a minute that Time Warner didn't know what they were doing with that Police are continuing to question nine men arrested over what security sources say was a plan to film a Muslim soldier being executed and posted on the web the BBC reports.

00:34:20.000 And it goes on.

00:34:23.000 Mexican Migration Project Director Calls for North American Unions.

00:34:26.000 This is from JBS.

00:34:28.000 According to Princeton University Sociologist Douglas Mancey, director of the Mexican Migration Project, the way for America to solve its immigration problems is for the U.S.

00:34:37.000 and Canada governments to pay for Mexico's infrastructure and social projects, leading to an eventual North American Union.

00:34:43.000 At Terra.com, a Spanish-language news publication, an article reported on activities that took place in none other than Washington, D.C.

00:34:50.000 The translation that follows And it says, how many of you saw this one on the nightly news?

00:34:56.000 According to Fernando Montero, who reported the story for Terra.com, Douglas Massey, director of the Mexican Migration Project, stated not only was the United States immigration policy negative and counterproductive, but also Canada and the United States have a financial obligation to build up Mexico itself, which the toll roads, I would add, at SPP.gov, will pay for.

00:35:17.000 They will tax us here The money will be given to the Feds, the private company, and to the state.

00:35:22.000 This is for all the states.

00:35:24.000 Frontlines are Texas, and it will fund infrastructure in Mexico, which will then accelerate the merger.

00:35:29.000 Massey commented that NAFTA was deficient because it focused solely on commercial relations for business and left out the people factor.

00:35:36.000 See, because the answer we need now is total integration.

00:35:39.000 According to the report, Massey offered this nice sounding bite.

00:35:42.000 You cannot integrate a market without involving people.

00:35:44.000 Of course not.

00:35:45.000 That is why Americans who cherish their nation's independence are opposing to integrating their economic system under NAFTA because ultimately it will lead to a political integration with Mexico, the United States and Canada.

00:35:56.000 He goes on from page to page.

00:35:57.000 Let me get into this now.

00:35:59.000 Something I didn't cover a few weeks ago that needs to be covered today.

00:36:02.000 I just saw it in a stack and wanted to bring it back.

00:36:04.000 Then we'll go to Bobby in California and others that are patiently holding.

00:36:08.000 North American activist plotted stealth strategy.

00:36:13.000 That's in quotes.

00:36:14.000 Details of secret BANFF meeting released as part of a four year request.

00:36:20.000 Freedom of Information Act.

00:36:21.000 Finally.

00:36:23.000 Washington, D.C., Joseph Farah.

00:36:25.000 And this is all from, and you can link over to Judicial Watch and read the actual minutes through the four-year release.

00:36:32.000 Okay?

00:36:33.000 You can read literally hundreds of pages for yourself.

00:36:37.000 And I'll be honest with you, I only read 30 or 40 pages.

00:36:39.000 I don't have time.

00:36:40.000 And it was all so horrible.

00:36:41.000 I could spend an hour on each page.

00:36:42.000 I mean, it's just nightmare on top of nightmare.

00:36:45.000 Confirmation on everything we already know.

00:36:48.000 It's completely diabolical.

00:36:51.000 Washington.

00:36:52.000 Participants in a high-level, closed-door, three-day conference on the integration of the three North American nations debated whether openness about goals were preferred to a stealthy policy of building infrastructure before a vision of the end result was even laid out for the people of the U.S., Mexico, Canada, according to notes obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.

00:37:15.000 And it just goes on from there.

00:37:19.000 Official notes taken on a session on border infrastructure and continental prosperity at the North American Forum in Banff, Canada last September revealed the internal debate over continued secrecy.

00:37:33.000 See, secret North American Union already set up operating.

00:37:40.000 Now finally Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck and a few others have talked about it on national TV.

00:37:44.000 Finally it's been in, I don't know, a half dozen U.S.

00:37:46.000 newspapers, or more really, and all the Canadian papers I've seen have reported on it.

00:37:51.000 But still, you tell a yuppie this, anything that's a threat to them, they'll just deny it exists, because it'll cut into their tennis time or their golf time.

00:38:00.000 Okay, great!

00:38:02.000 You want to live like they do in Mexico? 1.00

00:38:03.000 You want your dollar totally devalued?

00:38:06.000 You want your stock market totally destroyed?

00:38:08.000 Okay then, don't worry!

00:38:10.000 You sat back, America's probably too far gone!

00:38:15.000 Excuse me.

00:38:17.000 I've just been for 12 years on air trying to... We've had the documents.

00:38:21.000 This is real.

00:38:22.000 It's time to stop denying it!

00:38:23.000 Let me continue.

00:38:27.000 Official notes taken on the session on border infrastructure and continental prosperity at the North American Forum in Canada last September revealed the internal debate over continued secrecy.

00:38:37.000 While a vision is appealing, working on the infrastructure might yield more benefit and bring more people on board.

00:38:44.000 Evolution by stealth.

00:38:46.000 I recorded the notes discovered amid documents obtained by Judicial Watch.

00:38:50.000 Story continues.

00:38:52.000 Several speakers at the event emphasized the importance of deepening economic integration, integrating the energy infrastructure, and development of new institutions between the three North American nations.

00:39:03.000 Participants promoted the idea of using popular issues, such as concern over climate change, to push integration of energy and environmental governance, and the possibility of imposing a carbon tax.

00:39:15.000 Nothing to do with saving the earth from the climate change that's happening now.

00:39:20.000 Caused predominantly by the sun and impervious cover.

00:39:24.000 Yes, major scientific, vetted, peer-reviewed studies do show human activity is causing, well, fossil fuels, 3% of the increase and 6% by blacktop and black tar roofs and heat sinks.

00:39:43.000 Because photosynthesis and plants actually absorb and use it and have a cooling effect.

00:39:48.000 And yes, cities do cover a large percentage of the earth and it is heating the earth.

00:39:52.000 I have actually spent years now studying this so I could accurately talk about it.

00:39:59.000 But when you add 3 and 6 together, that's 9% of the heating.

00:40:05.000 Then, another large percentage point, depending on who studies you look at, it's between another 19 and 25 percent, and again they debate this, is being caused by volcanoes, and that also, but they can't really gauge that because they try to meter the volcanic eruptions, but then also you've got Amazon and other forest destruction, which is destroying the lungs of the earth, is not good.

00:40:33.000 It's not good, no one can debate that, and it is causing problems so they have trouble metering the volcanic emissions because they know at least a small percentage of that is the fires that are ongoing all over the place.

00:40:50.000 You look at satellite photos, there are just fires everywhere from Asia to South and Central America.

00:40:57.000 They then see massive increase in forest coverage in Europe and the U.S.

00:41:03.000 because of huge replanting programs.

00:41:06.000 So then you have to integrate different studies on that.

00:41:10.000 But I'm not a fan of destroying the rainforest.

00:41:12.000 I'll just tell you right now.

00:41:13.000 The point I'm trying to make here, and I'm stopping on each line, is that they're saying they're going to cynically use public concern and claim the North American Union will do something about this, and that some carbon tax will do something, when your cars and your factories are 3%.

00:41:26.000 Or 3%.

00:41:26.000 3%!

00:41:27.000 3%.

00:41:30.000 Now, the vast majority, well over 50%, is the sun.

00:41:38.000 There is no debating the numbers.

00:41:41.000 And from NASA and every other major institution, the sun is heating up.

00:41:46.000 It is expelling a lot more forms of radiation than it has in the past.

00:41:52.000 The entire spectrum that it spews forth.

00:41:55.000 Visible light being only one component.

00:41:59.000 Alright, the sun is going wild, the entire solar system is heating up.

00:42:03.000 Is what man's doing accelerating it?

00:42:05.000 Certainly.

00:42:07.000 But, again, you hear all day about fossil fuel emissions and flatulence of bovine cows, that is just nothing!

00:42:16.000 It's nothing!

00:42:17.000 And then if you even believe that's causing all of it, which every major study shows it isn't, what does a global tax on it do?

00:42:23.000 Nothing!

00:42:27.000 We need to write a big article about this and get this out to everybody, because, you know, there's so many leftists that are just totally conned.

00:42:32.000 You hate urban sprawl, you hate cars, you hate over-consumption.

00:42:37.000 Frankly, you look at it, it is pretty corrupted out of control, but their answer is neo-surfdom is even worse.

00:42:45.000 So, and you can't have the government come in and regulate this, they'll just use it as a tool of control.

00:42:50.000 Their solutions are frauds.

00:42:50.000 You understand?

00:42:52.000 Let me read this again to you.

00:42:56.000 Several speakers at the event emphasized the importance of deepening economic integration, integrating the energy infrastructure, and the development of new institutions between the three North American nations.

00:43:03.000 Participants promoted the idea of using popular issues such as concern over climate change to push integration of energy and environmental governance and the possibility of imposing a carbon tax.

00:43:16.000 Judicial Watch released yesterday the documents it received in a FOIA request from the U.S.

00:43:22.000 National Command, Northern Command.

00:43:25.000 Again, that's what really governs the U.S., is the true shadow government, publicly announced now, out of Colorado Springs.

00:43:33.000 That is the capital.

00:43:35.000 And by the way, under nuclear attack, they moved the official capital to Denver.

00:43:38.000 Judicial Watch released yesterday the documents, and it received a FOIA request from the U.S.

00:43:43.000 Northern Command.

00:43:43.000 See, that's who's running the North American Union government.

00:43:48.000 I mean, it's just right here!

00:43:50.000 This is incredible!

00:43:52.000 So the military runs our country.

00:43:55.000 Judicial Watch released yesterday its documents released in a FOIA request by the U.S.

00:43:58.000 Northern Command, whose Commander, Admiral Timothy Keating, participated in the conference along with the NORTHCOM Political Advisor, Deborah Bolton, and Plans and Policy Strategy Director, Major General Mark Volchev.

00:44:12.000 A similar request concerning participation in a North American forum meeting by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is still pending.

00:44:19.000 At least one attendee of the conference said the meeting was intended to subvert the democratic process.

00:44:24.000 This is in the minutes!

00:44:26.000 People are there griping!

00:44:28.000 Mel Hurtig, a Canadian author and publisher elected as the leader of the National Party.

00:44:33.000 Get him on! 0.94

00:44:36.000 Mel Hurtig.

00:44:39.000 A Canadian author and publisher elected as leader of the National Party of Canada told the world that day last fall the idea of the North American Forum is to move the countries toward integration without public consent or even knowledge.

00:44:54.000 What is sinister about this meeting is that it involved high-level government officials and some of the top and most powerful business leaders in the three countries and the North American Forum is organized The meeting intentionally did not inform the press in any way of the three countries and had press that attended sign non-disclosure forms I would add.

00:45:13.000 It is clear that the intention was to keep this important meeting about integration of the three countries out of the public eye and he was there.

00:45:21.000 The conference raised more suspicions about plans for the future merger of the US, Canada, and Mexico with topics ranging from a vision for North America, opportunities for security cooperation, and demographic and social dimensions of the Northern American integration.

00:45:37.000 Confirmed participants included Rumsfeld, former Secretary of State George Shultz, he's a legate for the New World Order, that's one who serves the Emperor, who serves as Co-Chairman of the North American Forum, former Central Intelligence Agency Director James Woolsey, who I have on video saying we should build camps for Americans, former Immigration and Naturalization Services Director Doris Meisner, North American Union Guru Robert Pasteur,

00:46:02.000 Former Defense Secretary William Perry, former Energy Secretary and Defense Secretary James Schlesinger, and top officials of both Canada and Mexico.

00:46:12.000 But the only media member scheduled to appear at the event, according to documents obtained by World and Daily, was the Wall Street Journal's Mary Anastasia O'Grady.

00:46:21.000 The event was organized by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives of the Canadian West Foundation, an Alberta think tank that promotes closer economic integration with the United States.

00:46:30.000 It's their CFR.

00:46:31.000 The next meeting on the North American Forum is set for October 12th, 24th in Porto Vallarta.

00:46:38.000 The Canadian event is another in a series of meetings.

00:46:40.000 Policy papers and directors that have citizens, officials and members of the media wondering whether these efforts represent some sort of coordinated effort to implement a merger, some have characterized as the NAFTA on steroids.

00:46:51.000 Has us wondering?

00:46:52.000 It says it. 0.82

00:46:53.000 It's like if I come up and punch you in the nose and break it in blood spewing and you go, I wonder if you just hit me? 0.98

00:47:01.000 Ah! 0.89

00:47:04.000 Northcom running it!

00:47:08.000 How long have we told you that Road to Tyranny that I made five years ago?

00:47:12.000 Five years ago!

00:47:14.000 It was out in February, early February of 2002.

00:47:20.000 I had a rough version out in two weeks called 9-11 Road to Tyranny Emergency Release.

00:47:24.000 Within two weeks, shipping!

00:47:27.000 But that was just a talk I did with video clips.

00:47:30.000 It was an emergency to get it out.

00:47:32.000 And then three, four months later, let me see, September, October, November, yeah.

00:47:39.000 About four months, five months later, I had Road to Tyranny out.

00:47:43.000 And then I had my book, Scent and Tyranny, out six and a half months later.

00:47:45.000 My point is that it's all in there.

00:47:49.000 The Northcom will run everything.

00:47:51.000 I have Army Times, I have Toronto Star, I have official announcements and documents.

00:47:51.000 Why?

00:47:56.000 Bill Clinton gave a speech in 1993 about how we were going to have a NORTHCOM and a Homeland Security.

00:48:03.000 The shadow government's been there since 1947.

00:48:07.000 The terms we hear are at least 14 years old.

00:48:12.000 No, they didn't just pop up after 2001.

00:48:15.000 The Council on Foreign Relations Hart-Rudman Commission.

00:48:20.000 One year!

00:48:21.000 They released it in September.

00:48:23.000 That was the deadline.

00:48:24.000 That's why PNAC put a report out in September 2000 saying, we're going to be hit by massive terror attacks, we're going to take everybody's rights, we're going to have National ID cards, North Com will run everything, it'll be called Homeland Security.

00:48:34.000 I mean, it's just... I mean, they get up there three days after 9-11 and Gary Hart says, we're going to use this disaster for a New World Order.

00:48:44.000 Bobby, in California, thanks for holding your on the air.

00:48:48.000 Hi, I just want to remind everyone how important it is to make copies of DVDs and get them out to everyone in your area, especially the police.

00:48:56.000 I haven't heard from the caller, Charles from Louisiana, for a while, but it's important for everyone to know his story, how he... He's handed out almost 7,000 DVDs in VHS.

00:49:05.000 Yeah, and how he... I heard one episode, you were saying he converted the police in his area and kicked out the feds and stuff.

00:49:15.000 All of them in his parish, yeah.

00:49:17.000 Yeah, so everyone could do that in their area too.

00:49:20.000 But he didn't convert them, they converted themselves by checking out the documentation.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:26.000 And at first they were threatening to arrest him, handing him out free on the street, and going into coffee shops, and then they were so embarrassed after they watched him, because they'd seen him and they thought it was lies, and then they threatened to arrest him, and then one of them finally checked it out and found that it was true.

00:49:42.000 That was Police Day 2000.

00:49:44.000 The cops didn't think it was real that Marines were training to take guns and that we had actual video.

00:49:48.000 Then they just did some checking and found out the Marines had bragged about it and put it on their own website.

00:49:53.000 And so, total conversion.

00:49:54.000 I mean, how do you not convert to reality?

00:49:57.000 I mean, how?

00:49:58.000 If you've got any soul, any intellect, any brain.

00:50:03.000 Of course I'm angry.

00:50:04.000 Of course I'm aggressive.

00:50:05.000 I'm sorry that's my style.

00:50:07.000 My country's going down.

00:50:09.000 Our country's going down.

00:50:10.000 Your country.

00:50:12.000 And it isn't going down into something that's just, you know, milquetoast.

00:50:15.000 It's going into darkness.

00:50:17.000 It's going into tyranny.

00:50:18.000 Anything else?

00:50:19.000 Bobby?

00:50:20.000 Oh yeah, um, I'm gonna put a bumper sticker on my car that says, Do you want freedom or fascism?

00:50:25.000 Ron Paul for President, 2008.

00:50:28.000 That is an awesome name.

00:50:32.000 Absolutely.

00:50:34.000 Anything else?

00:50:34.000 You are the man.

00:50:35.000 Yeah, just like everyone, you know, it's important to invest in a DVD copier.

00:50:39.000 And just get DVDs out, because once they have them in their hand, everyone wants to show their whole family, and then they show us.

00:50:44.000 But, you know, you never know where the DVD is going to go.

00:50:46.000 So you've been having successes yourself?

00:50:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:50:50.000 I want to hear about it.

00:50:51.000 Stay there.

00:50:52.000 Then we'll go to Mark and Canada and others.

00:50:55.000 Then we've got a big guest, a witness to government-sponsored terror.

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00:52:03.000 It's here, after a year in production and traveling to distant lands, my new film Terror Storm is complete.

00:52:08.000 Shocking declassified government documents prove that western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

00:52:17.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

00:52:24.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, the White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

00:52:36.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

00:52:40.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

00:52:42.000 Terror Storm is a film that everyone who wants to be truly informed must see.

00:52:46.000 Get your copy today at Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or by calling toll-free 1-888-253-3139 or watch it right now online at PrisonPlanet.tv.

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00:53:57.000 Day after day, alone on a hill. 0.99

00:54:08.000 The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still. 0.99

00:54:16.000 But nobody wants to know him. 1.00

00:54:19.000 They can see that he's just a fool. 0.99

00:54:22.000 And he never gives an answer. 1.00

00:54:26.000 But the fool on the hill sees the sun going down. 0.99

00:54:32.000 And the eyes in his head sees the world spinning round. 1.00

00:54:39.000 Welcome back.

00:54:39.000 Amen.

00:54:41.000 All right, let's go back to Bobby.

00:54:44.000 Bobby, tell me how long you've been making copies of films and what effect it's had.

00:54:47.000 I love hearing it.

00:54:49.000 For a couple years, I'd say probably about three years making copies.

00:54:54.000 And for me personally, I'm an electrician and I always bring them to my job site.

00:54:59.000 And it's always the same thing, especially since 9-11 Mysteries came out.

00:55:07.000 I'll start them off with that.

00:55:08.000 And after a week or so, that's the conversation around all the jobs that I've had.

00:55:14.000 You're not giving them Terror Storm?

00:55:16.000 Oh, no, no.

00:55:17.000 I give them 9/11 Mysteries, write number one on there, and then I give them Terror Storm, write number two on there.

00:55:23.000 So it's like 9/11 Mysteries kind of warms them up for Terror Storm.

00:55:28.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:55:28.000 Just please, everybody, make copies of Terror Storm because I frankly think overall it's the best film on the wide view of government-sponsored terror, why they do it, how they've done it.

00:55:38.000 I mean, this is... Terror Storm, what, the first 30 minutes is just the government admitting all the stuff they've done?

00:55:43.000 I mean, this is where they admit it!

00:55:46.000 That they stage terror attacks.

00:55:48.000 And then we get into new events that we can evidence are government sponsored.

00:55:55.000 And here we are about to bring you a guest who witnessed operatives on 7-7.

00:56:01.000 So it's just over time, 9-11 and the other events will be totally documented.

00:56:07.000 Well yeah, you know, it's always been, you know, people, once people start talking about it, you know, they want more and more.

00:56:15.000 What percentage of people wake up that you interface with?

00:56:21.000 Like 85%?

00:56:22.000 That's the number I found, about 85-90%.

00:56:24.000 On talk radio, even on adversarial shows with the hoses attacking me, one out of twenty disagrees. 0.51

00:56:30.000 I mean, it's total destruction of the enemy.

00:56:32.000 I'll be on neocon shows like Lars Larson, and he'll get irritated because every time I've been on, he'll take five or six calls that agree with me, and then one caller that kind of disagrees, which is, well, you've got a lot of stuff right, but you're still Wrong about this.

00:56:48.000 I mean, look, look, the truth is out.

00:56:50.000 We're going to defeat the New World Order, period. 0.99

00:56:52.000 Thanks for the call.

00:56:54.000 Don't forget, coming up this evening, I'm going to be giving a speech at the UT Union Ballroom.

00:56:59.000 Details are up on InfoWars.com.

00:57:01.000 It is a free event.

00:57:02.000 And they wanted me to go there and speak for two and a half hours and take questions.

00:57:07.000 And contrary to what most people like to do, I like to share the spotlight.

00:57:10.000 So I invited George Humphreys, author, documentary filmmaker, former city council member, very successful businessman, Anthony Wilber Crusader to come speak, and of course, Genesis' own, Jack Blood, who follows this broadcast.

00:57:22.000 He will be speaking.

00:57:23.000 They're going to speak about 30 minutes.

00:57:27.000 Well, they're each going to have 30 minutes time.

00:57:29.000 And if they want to speak for 20 and then take 10 minutes of questions, they can.

00:57:31.000 Then I'm going to speak for an hour because, you know, I guess I'm the headliner.

00:57:34.000 And then we're going to have about 45 minutes of questions from everybody in the audience.

00:57:40.000 And the place holds like 1,000.

00:57:42.000 I've just been promoting it since Monday, so I would guess about 500 will show up.

00:57:46.000 If I promote it for two weeks, it would be overflow.

00:57:48.000 We've had a bench with over 1,200 before.

00:57:50.000 But, again, it's going to be huge.

00:57:54.000 It's free.

00:57:54.000 And it's a really nice place, great sound system.

00:57:58.000 And I hope to see you all there coming up tonight here in Austin, Texas, the first day of February, 2007, at the UT Union Ballroom.

00:58:09.000 In fact, where's the address?

00:58:11.000 I had it in front of me.

00:58:17.000 24th and Guadalupe.

00:58:19.000 24th and Guadalupe.

00:58:20.000 UT Union Ballroom.

00:58:23.000 Just go to the tower.

00:58:24.000 The UT Tower.

00:58:26.000 Just ask, where's the ballroom?

00:58:27.000 And they'll say, it's right there.

00:58:29.000 It's here.

00:58:30.000 We'll be right back with the second hour.

00:58:33.000 Take a few calls.

00:58:34.000 Then get Steve Watson and Daniel Obuchike on.

00:58:40.000 If you would like a copy of this show, come to GCNlive.com and reserve it today, or call toll-free 877-376-45.

00:58:45.000 Big Brother.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:46.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:48.000 You want answers?

00:58:52.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:59:02.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Literally waging war on corruption.

00:59:21.000 Crashing to the lies and disinformation.

00:59:26.000 Monday through Friday, live from 11 to 2, Central Standard Time.

00:59:32.000 By the way, I'm tired of forgetting.

00:59:33.000 I know my staff is listening.

00:59:35.000 Guys, get me the list of the five affiliates we got last week.

00:59:39.000 Because I keep saying I'm going to plug them, and I never get a proper list.

00:59:42.000 I hear the names, I thank the program directors, and then I just forget about it.

00:59:46.000 I want to get that and thank them before this hour ends.

00:59:49.000 I want to thank them on the Sunday show that's gotten a lot of new affiliates as well.

00:59:53.000 We're just so blessed, so thankful to God.

00:59:55.000 Big guest coming up, eyewitness to government operatives in the 7-7 bombings of 2005.

01:00:00.000 Right now, Mark in Canada.

01:00:02.000 Thanks for holding.

01:00:03.000 You're on the air.

01:00:04.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:00:05.000 Good, sir.

01:00:06.000 Good.

01:00:06.000 Big fanboy here.

01:00:08.000 Um, I like Bobby the Caller before.

01:00:10.000 I've been, uh, I'm burning Terror Storm copies right now.

01:00:12.000 I've been handing them out in Ottawa.

01:00:14.000 I go for walks at night.

01:00:15.000 I give out, um, Terror Storm and 9-11 Revisited.

01:00:18.000 Well done!

01:00:19.000 Those are the two I've chosen, and, uh, I just take about eight or nine out at night, walk around.

01:00:23.000 I always come home without them, so... I don't know if the people watch them, but... That's the best is to fire and forget.

01:00:28.000 Carpet bombing, InfoWars, the best procedure.

01:00:31.000 Yeah, that's what I've been doing, so I'm doing my part.

01:00:33.000 I also went to a rally yesterday, my first protest, so that was kind of cool.

01:00:36.000 I have questions.

01:00:37.000 I've been trying to call him for a while, so these are kind of dated.

01:00:41.000 The Bayer tainted HIV inoculations?

01:00:46.000 Yes, by design.

01:00:47.000 Is there anybody who has been looking into the WHO and the Red Cross, International Red Cross's tracking?

01:00:54.000 Red Cross was caught, it was all over Australian papers, knowing that it had AIDS in it, knowingly delivering it. 0.99

01:01:00.000 It's publicly admitted.

01:01:01.000 Okay.

01:01:02.000 Is there anybody who's tracking though the growth of the epidemic?

01:01:07.000 The Heliophilia Society has tried to.

01:01:09.000 They've been robbed once and there's been fire bombings as well of the doctor who worked in the prisons in Little Rock.

01:01:20.000 And so there's been some strange deaths as well.

01:01:23.000 So yeah, people have been trying.

01:01:25.000 But again, the murders and the fire bombings didn't stop it from coming out.

01:01:28.000 Okay, okay, excellent.

01:01:30.000 Would you ever have David Suzuki on your show to discuss global warming?

01:01:35.000 I don't know.

01:01:36.000 Who is David Suzuki?

01:01:37.000 David Suzuki is a big Canadian environmentalist.

01:01:41.000 He's been around for years.

01:01:42.000 Now I've heard the name, I had to place it.

01:01:45.000 Did you hear my analysis of it?

01:01:47.000 Oh, I've listened to your show since Charlie Sheen came out, pretty much daily.

01:01:51.000 So what did you think?

01:01:52.000 Oh, I think you're bang on.

01:01:54.000 I'm just curious if he would agree with you about the solution that they're proposing, or if he would be saying it's not 3%, it's 10%, that kind of stuff.

01:02:04.000 Well, listen, that's not me just saying 3%.

01:02:06.000 I mean, there's a bunch of different studies, and even the U.N.

01:02:10.000 study says, well, humans are 6% of it, but it still is the tipping point.

01:02:15.000 The sun's heating up.

01:02:16.000 And then the point is, regardless, regardless, their solution of a global tax has nothing to do with it.

01:02:24.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:02:25.000 I agree.

01:02:25.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

01:02:27.000 My next question has to do with Ron Paul and Mike Rivera has been talking about the Jefferson Manual and that it takes one governor to start the impeachment procedures.

01:02:37.000 And that is starting up in New Mexico and several other states.

01:02:41.000 Okay, so Ron Paul isn't in a position to start that as well?

01:02:45.000 They already used it against him in his last campaign ineffectively when he came on my show and said Bush should be impeached.

01:02:52.000 That was already used against Paul, so I don't know if he will call for something like that because then it would be misinterpreted by conservatives.

01:02:59.000 But certainly, he says anyone who voted for the war should be removed and impeached.

01:03:04.000 Okay, okay.

01:03:06.000 Next question, then nuclear non-proliferation treaty and the other thing that stipulates that the U.S.

01:03:11.000 can't supply aid to a country that is a nuclear power unless it allows inspectors.

01:03:17.000 That's another thing Mike Rivera was talking about.

01:03:19.000 Is that going to Matter like is there any way that they can even enforce that?

01:03:24.000 No, no.

01:03:25.000 And you can't enforce it.

01:03:27.000 And the U.N. doesn't enforce it.

01:03:28.000 And Israel doesn't follow it. 0.75

01:03:30.000 And China doesn't follow it.

01:03:32.000 The point is, South Africa's got nukes, brother. 0.88

01:03:35.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

01:03:38.000 Pakistan, India.

01:03:39.000 We'll be right back.

01:03:41.000 Stay with us.

01:03:42.000 Big guest.

01:03:43.000 I'm going to leave you alone.

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01:07:08.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:13.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

01:07:32.000 Now 8 minutes, 42 seconds into this second hour.

01:07:36.000 And for the balance of the hour, I'm extremely honored to be joined by Steve Watson of Infowars.net and PrisonPlanet.com from London, England, and Daniel Obuchacki, also joining us from England.

01:07:51.000 Now, let me just set the table here.

01:07:53.000 On the morning of 7-7-2005, three bombs blew up, destroying three different train passenger carriages, killing quite a few people, tragically.

01:08:05.000 Over an hour later, a bus that had been specifically singled out and redirected, and these reports had already come out by other witnesses, exploded, causing quite a few deaths and injuries.

01:08:20.000 And then it came out that the former head of Scotland Yard's Public Relations, Peter Powers, had been hired to run a drill of the exact same trains, exact same times, being bombed, the exact same day.

01:08:35.000 And we've had the actuary mathematics done on that.

01:08:39.000 It's in the tracts of gillions.

01:08:41.000 That's 43 zeros, my friends, behind it.

01:08:45.000 That's many, many more times, billions of times more than all the grains of sand in all the world.

01:08:50.000 On 9-11, they're doing a drill of flying hijack jets in the World Trade Center and Pentagon at the exact same time yet again as well.

01:08:58.000 It's always the same MO.

01:08:59.000 They do this in case other compartments of the government discover it.

01:09:02.000 The other operatives can just say, hey, we're taking part in a drill.

01:09:05.000 It also bootlegs the funding It also creates chatter that confuses Echelon, InfoPoll 9, the NSA, MI6, the different listening stations.

01:09:16.000 So if they pick up on it, they can say, "Oh, that's just the drill too." And there are hundreds of points concerning the London Bonding.

01:09:24.000 First they said that it was simultaneous and they said no it wasn't simultaneous.

01:09:28.000 It turned out they were correct.

01:09:29.000 It was simultaneous bombings on all three of the trains.

01:09:33.000 Something went wrong.

01:09:34.000 We had surmised from all the evidence something hadn't detonated on the bus.

01:09:39.000 People reported there was not an Asian man down there.

01:09:43.000 People reported that suddenly there was just an explosion.

01:09:47.000 Folks had reported that the bus had been singled out and diverted.

01:09:49.000 I talked to bus drivers who'd heard about it.

01:09:51.000 I talked to technicians who worked in that bus terminal about strange things and strange technicians working on that bus.

01:09:58.000 And so we, from the evidence we had, something hadn't gone off simultaneously in the bus, so they redirected it.

01:10:03.000 While they were redirecting it, to make sure it went off from all the evidence we have, MI6, MI5, or some private agency that was carrying this out, clearly in collusion with the government, needed time to cover up what was happening with the bus because something had gone wrong.

01:10:19.000 So for an hour and several minutes, they were announcing a power surge had caused some type of explosions.

01:10:27.000 Now you've got three blown up trains, dead people everywhere, they're coming out, bleeding, dying, they're telling everyone bombs went off, And the police are saying, no, no, no, it's a power search.

01:10:39.000 While, meanwhile, black sedans, blue sedans, motorcycles are directing this particular bus, the Hackney bus, to Tavistock Park, Tavistock Square.

01:10:51.000 On board that bus is Daniel Albacheke, and Daniel

01:10:58.000 is there and he's now going to tell you what he witnessed and this is a eyewitness now other eyewitnesses interviewed by police and again most police aren't involved in this that's why we have Scotland Yard going we don't think these guys knew they had bombs we don't think that they were suicide bombers we think someone gave them these packages but then you got the problem of one of the bombers passports uh... ID cards being found at two different bombings and somebody messed up in the planting

01:11:26.000 You've got Benjamin Netanyahu being admitted to Associated Press at least 30 minutes before getting a call and being told, don't get on the trains, stay in your hotel room.

01:11:36.000 This is all on record.

01:11:38.000 You've got Giuliani there when this happens.

01:11:40.000 All very suspicious folks.

01:11:41.000 Same people, same players. 0.94

01:11:43.000 This is so disgusting.

01:11:46.000 And so we have Daniel there on the bus and he's going to tell you what he witnessed.

01:11:52.000 This is huge.

01:11:53.000 I cannot hype this enough.

01:11:56.000 I know Steve's working on a part two of this, so I want to bring up Daniel.

01:12:00.000 Daniel, thank you for coming on.

01:12:02.000 That's okay.

01:12:02.000 How are you doing?

01:12:03.000 Good, sir.

01:12:04.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself, and then give us a nutshell, give us a thumbnail sketch of what happened on that bus that morning, what you witnessed, and then any more details that you haven't already given us for the InfoWars.net story.

01:12:18.000 And I first want to say, thank you for your courage, sir.

01:12:21.000 Tell us first about yourself and how you got the courage to go public.

01:12:26.000 Okay, I'm just a regular guy.

01:12:28.000 I was born, bred, work in London and that day I was on my way to work in Old Street and there was some kind of disruption going on.

01:12:40.000 We were told it was a power surge and we were evacuated and that's how I became to be on the bus.

01:12:47.000 And then after that the bus left Houston full of passengers who were Also evacuated, and the bus seemed to be going nowhere, so I looked out because I was standing on the lower deck because I wasn't sure whether I was on the correct bus.

01:13:06.000 And then I peered ahead and I saw these two cars, which were a Mercedes and a BMW, blue and black, which seemed to be in front of the bus, holding it up.

01:13:17.000 And it was diverted about four or five minutes later down towards Tavistock Square.

01:13:26.000 And I think the results are quite evident for everyone else to see what took place in Tavistock Square.

01:13:35.000 Please continue with once you got to the square what you saw.

01:13:37.000 Oh well, after the explosion you can understand I was on the floor so I It took about five seconds till the noise had actually quietened down and then I just got up and then I ran and escaped and ran straight down the street.

01:14:00.000 After a few paces down the street I saw a man holding a camera.

01:14:05.000 It looks like a camcorder who was walking towards me filming the bus itself.

01:14:11.000 Um, I was confused by this and I stopped and skidded to a halt and looked left, right and what was going on.

01:14:21.000 Then I looked behind me and I saw the bus, the upper deck of which had been completely destroyed by the bomb explosion.

01:14:29.000 Um, and then I just, I think at that point my, my mind must have just changed into some kind of, I was really, not frightened, but I was aware that something, a myth, was going on and...

01:14:49.000 I was just looking at the people moving into the actual space on the square.

01:14:55.000 There were guys who were hanging around.

01:14:57.000 There was a row of policemen who were just standing there in yellow fluorescent suits, jackets.

01:15:04.000 They weren't doing anything.

01:15:05.000 They were just watching.

01:15:07.000 There was this guy filming and I'm saying, what is going on here?

01:15:10.000 It didn't feel right.

01:15:14.000 I actually went and helped some woman who had been walking beside the bus.

01:15:18.000 She was covered in blood and then I helped her to get some kind of help at a hotel which was further down the square and I passed this gentleman who seemed to have acquired some kind of um injuries but i couldn't understand for the life of me how this was possible because he was 40 50 meters away from the bus itself so i he was making a lot of noise and trying to get people's attention

01:15:46.000 but i just saw his actual uh injuries as fake so in fact you write in your description that within 60 seconds he had a bandage on his head and there weren't even paramedics around him it Exactly.

01:15:59.000 They hadn't even shown up yet.

01:16:01.000 Can you say that in your own words though?

01:16:02.000 I mean, describe it in detail for us.

01:16:06.000 Well, he had a bandage around his head and his trouser leg had been slit neatly along the seam and he was Rolling on the pavement.

01:16:16.000 This was 50 meters away from the bus itself.

01:16:21.000 The bus bomb itself blew backwards.

01:16:24.000 So one lady who was at the back where I was standing, I was standing in the center of the bus or by the window. 0.99

01:16:31.000 She actually died and someone walking behind the bus also died.

01:16:35.000 So the bus blew backwards, the bomb blew backwards.

01:16:39.000 So this guy, it was just a complete fake injury, and he was just some guy who was, I don't know what his role was specifically.

01:16:47.000 There were a lot of people observing, I noted.

01:16:50.000 Some people were running forward, the medical staff and the medical professionals were, you could tell who they were because they were trying to see what they could do for people, half of them.

01:17:00.000 Some people were just, they weren't going to make it.

01:17:02.000 Some people, they were trying to do something for them.

01:17:04.000 But then there were these other people who were just watching, taking notes, organizing people, moving things.

01:17:11.000 How many seconds, I mean, how long did it take you to get out of the bus, and then how long did it take you, because you say 60 seconds, to then notice that this guy is way up the street with a bandage on his head rolling around?

01:17:21.000 I left the bus within 12 seconds.

01:17:24.000 I got down that street in another 10 seconds.

01:17:27.000 So within 25 seconds, I had witnessed the cameraman and about

01:17:34.000 15 seconds after that I actually noted this chap so it was within 45 seconds he was actually with some kind of headband and lying on the street and I don't know how he got there because if it was a bus blast he must have been flung about 40 to 50 feet and that is not really feasible with the injuries which he was displaying.

01:18:00.000 And it was the wrong direction from the way the blast came out.

01:18:02.000 Precisely.

01:18:03.000 How many operative types or police did you see when you got off the bus around you already staring at it?

01:18:10.000 Okay, there were about four...

01:18:13.000 Guys in blue bottoms and who had rucksacks, they were kind of foot soldier types.

01:18:21.000 There were about two or three people who were just standing in the doorway, just watching everything.

01:18:26.000 And there was another guy who was coordinating everything, coordinating in plainclothes and coordinating police, when they finally came forward to actually do something.

01:18:39.000 Just all there waiting.

01:18:40.000 Oh, here comes the bus.

01:18:41.000 Boom! 0.99

01:18:43.000 Unbelievable, sir.

01:18:44.000 Please stay with us.

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01:23:05.000 Little peace of you Little peace of me We'll die A miracle For this is not America Daniel Obachek, he is our guest.

01:23:27.000 Born and bred Londoner.

01:23:29.000 Talking during the break, it was just unbelievably powerful.

01:23:33.000 I I remember making Terror Storm and saying to Rob, my editor here in the office, I go, that photo looks fake.

01:23:41.000 Bandages all over his face, thinly placed, no blood except on his chest, and it looked like it was put on out of a ketchup dispenser, little squirters that you use just kind of dribble down the front.

01:23:56.000 And so many times my instincts are right.

01:23:59.000 Well, it turns out that's the individual that, within 60 seconds, was flopping around and prancing around in front of cameras and all the waiting police.

01:24:07.000 And notice, though, they didn't... all over every major newspaper in the world, all over every major television network in the world, every news program in the world, no one interviewed him, no one said, where is he now?

01:24:18.000 No one said his name.

01:24:19.000 Everybody else they showed bloodier bleeding.

01:24:22.000 A day later, they'd say, here's their name.

01:24:24.000 Not him.

01:24:24.000 And now the photo's being jerked.

01:24:27.000 Please relay and repeat the words you told me during the break, Daniel.

01:24:32.000 Please, in your own words, lay this out.

01:24:35.000 Yeah, this guy, he was the one that got my kind of curiosity going because I walked past there with this, escorting this woman who was hurt, and then I saw him.

01:24:48.000 He had this bandage around his head, his leg

01:24:52.000 seemed to, his trouser leg was torn and this was within 45 less than 60 seconds after the explosion a time before any medical staff had come forward and the thing about him was he just seemed so fake so I thought this man must have had prior knowledge prior intelligence and he was positioned here for what reason I don't know then I

01:25:20.000 Well, I conducted a search of my own online because a few days after the 7th of July, his picture, his image was everywhere.

01:25:30.000 And about a month ago I looked and it had been totally pulled.

01:25:34.000 I mean, it wasn't on any of the BBC websites, it wasn't on Any of the international news sites, you just couldn't find this guy.

01:25:43.000 I actually spent about two days searching, and then I got two images of him, and that's what you see on WorldWideWebTheForceBomb.com, which is my site, where the truth and the facts of what happened in Tavistock Square that day are.

01:26:00.000 Now, again, your story meshes with all the other witnesses, all the other evidence we have, but I want to be clear before I bring Steve Watson up in the next segment, who broke this with you, and I really am thankful for his great journalistic skills and your courage.

01:26:13.000 Going back, specifics, slow down, take your time.

01:26:18.000 When you see the blue and black Mercedes and the motorcycle cop and the discussion with the bus driver and it's redirected, let's go back to when they first directed you in the bus to Tavistock Square.

01:26:32.000 Okay, yeah, um, well, what do you want to know?

01:26:34.000 The bus was... Just slow down and describe everything to me.

01:26:37.000 Just slow down and tell me how they pulled up, what they did, what they, you know, what their body motions were like, just everything, what they looked like.

01:26:45.000 Okay, it left Houston Bus Station and proceeded down Houston Road.

01:26:51.000 It was supposed to go straight from Houston to Kings Cross, but these two cars were blocking its path.

01:26:58.000 And then after a short time, a police motorcyclist whizzed up on his bike and had a word with one of the drivers.

01:27:06.000 White men? 0.89

01:27:07.000 Black men? 0.91

01:27:08.000 What did they look like?

01:27:08.000 Asian men?

01:27:10.000 No, the police, the drivers were of European appearance.

01:27:15.000 The motorcyclist had a helmet, so he had a brief word with one of the drivers.

01:27:22.000 And I thought, okay, thank God for that.

01:27:25.000 This guy We'll tell the driver to go and then we can get to where we need to be going.

01:27:31.000 But instead of the police motorcyclist getting the car to leave, they told him to leave and he just turned around and sped off.

01:27:41.000 Did you see them flash anything?

01:27:43.000 They didn't flash anything.

01:27:44.000 He waved something.

01:27:46.000 It could have been some kind of card or pass or something, but as soon as the police Who waved?

01:27:53.000 The driver of the blue Mercedes or the black?

01:27:55.000 The driver of the BMW.

01:27:58.000 And what color?

01:27:59.000 The BMW was blue, correct?

01:28:01.000 Blue, yes.

01:28:02.000 The driver of the BMW waved the motorcyclist away with some form of identification.

01:28:09.000 I only assume he had some form of identification.

01:28:11.000 You saw him, something in the hand waved it.

01:28:13.000 Yeah, that was it.

01:28:15.000 Absolutely key.

01:28:16.000 Stay there.

01:28:18.000 Your debriefing will continue on the other side.

01:28:20.000 Steve Watson will join in.

01:28:22.000 This is absolutely vital, and we're trying to keep this man safe right now by him getting his entire story out in more detail.

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01:31:51.000 I know it was two years ago or a year and a half ago I know that it's not big and spectacular like 9-11.

01:32:17.000 But a lot of people died and it was used when the British nation was refusing to go along with the war in Iraq when Tony Blair had barely hung on to his position when he had lost almost the entire majority that the Labour Party had in Parliament.

01:32:33.000 And it came right when they were having their big G8 Summit in Glen Eagles.

01:32:37.000 And it was used as a grandstanding platform to say, see, the terrorists are hitting us.

01:32:42.000 We've got to get tough.

01:32:43.000 And every indices, every piece of evidence, even Scotland Yard and other police forces who had real detectives out were going, these guys weren't suicide bombers.

01:32:52.000 That's buried in the newspaper.

01:32:54.000 These guys, we think somebody planted this stuff on them or they didn't know.

01:32:57.000 They don't fit the MO.

01:32:59.000 There was a bomb under one of the trains, not in it.

01:33:03.000 Eyewitnesses said that.

01:33:04.000 You add all these or hundreds of points.

01:33:06.000 We put them in the film Terror Storm that I hope you'll get from Infowars.com.

01:33:10.000 That's why it's so important we spend about 30 minutes of the two-hour film or a little bit more than 30 minutes in London documenting this.

01:33:17.000 And we even show shots of newsstands.

01:33:18.000 We were there two weeks after the attacks.

01:33:21.000 And we show newsstands where there's literally like 15, 20 newspapers and magazines and it's all pictures of the bombing, and half of them are this guy with the thin, one layer of bandage.

01:33:33.000 Understand folks, I've worked for a large animal vet, my dad's a neurosurgeon, I've been in hospitals, I've worked around it, I've worked in the medical field when I was in college as a dental assistant, but even if you haven't, you know common sense.

01:33:48.000 You don't take thin gauze bandage, one layer, one Later.

01:33:59.000 And if you even put that on a scuff on your knee that really doesn't bleed but kind of just seeps, you know, when you're playing touch football and you fall down on your knee and it just kind of seeps.

01:34:09.000 I mean even if it was just seeping, just a microscopic graze, it would stick to his face.

01:34:16.000 No, it appears to be a cap, woven heavily on the top, and then just thin, thin one straps around his face, like it was some type of already woven helmet he just put on his head.

01:34:28.000 45 to 60 seconds after the blast, he's flopping around, way towards the front, 50 yards north of it.

01:34:36.000 There's other people videotaping, spook types walking around, and then no interviews with him, we never learn his name, he's just, you remember the guy with the bandage.

01:34:46.000 And those eyes have it all, ferret-like, scanning, calculating, and I just remember going, man, that is, something's going on, that doesn't look right.

01:34:57.000 And then he has like a potato, a ketchup bottle, you know, that you spray onto your potatoes, you spray onto your french fries, it, like a dribble on his shirt.

01:35:10.000 And you take movies like The Quiet American by Graham Greene, which is based on real events, they just changed the names.

01:35:16.000 That's when the Times of London reporter, who's based there in southern Vietnam, he's been recruited by the CIA guy, he doesn't know he's CIA, and the CIA guy's actually running terror attacks to blame it on the North to escalate the war.

01:35:30.000 This is before the war really kicks off in the late 19...

01:35:35.000 50s and it's based on true stories that really happened and then all of a sudden he doesn't know he didn't know the guy's CIA and some of these bombings blow up in the square and kill all these women and children and then he's running around the CIA guy giving orders in Vietnamese and the Times of London writer just goes and just leans back and realizes well literally the man you're listening to right now saw something just like you see in that movie

01:36:04.000 Just like what you see in that fictionalized account of real events in Vietnam.

01:36:11.000 Okay?

01:36:12.000 That's why this is so important.

01:36:13.000 Daniel, I want to go to Steve Watson and bring him up for any questions he's had.

01:36:18.000 He's been holding for 20 minutes.

01:36:19.000 But I'd like you to then talk about what happened in a nutshell after all of this.

01:36:27.000 What started happening from that point on, please, sir?

01:36:30.000 I will do.

01:36:32.000 Okay, yeah.

01:36:33.000 Well, it took the Police Investigating Anti-Terrorist Branch of Scotland Yard seven months to question me.

01:36:41.000 I actually called them, contacted the Emergency Information Hotline the following day, but they didn't get back to me until the end of January 2006.

01:36:54.000 And I just felt it was as though they were trying to whitewash me to make out that I was not even there to actually completely make it look as though I was not even on board the bus.

01:37:09.000 But it is on record that you were there and there's an upcoming book concerning it.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, there is.

01:37:13.000 That's what The Fourth Bomb, the book, is about.

01:37:16.000 And what I went through, I had Some surveillance, some, I don't know whether they were MI5, Anti-Terrorist Branch, or what government organisation, but I had a lot of probing, I even had, I even gave an interview with

01:37:34.000 a journalist called Duffy, he was working for the Sunday Mirror, and he showed me a picture, this was a week after the actual 7-7, he showed me a picture of Hasid Hussein, and then he asked me, have you seen this person?

01:37:51.000 And I said no, and about a day or two after that, then, Hasid Hussein was named as the bus bomber in the British press.

01:38:02.000 And let's be clear, none of the people on the bus said they saw any Asian men?

01:38:06.000 No, they didn't, and I was downstairs, I saw no Asian guy, but At all.

01:38:12.000 In your own words, describe it.

01:38:14.000 Did you see any, and the other witnesses said they didn't, but did you see any Asian men?

01:38:20.000 None whatsoever.

01:38:21.000 None on board the bus, none carrying a rucksack at Houston or on the bus, or at Pasadena Square.

01:38:30.000 Off the charts.

01:38:31.000 Just absolutely off the charts.

01:38:35.000 Now, you described this harassment as overt surveillance, I guess to intimidate you.

01:38:39.000 Walk us through that, some of the stuff they did.

01:38:42.000 Um, it just started by following me when I came out of my office, um, on lunch breaks.

01:38:51.000 They were waiting on the corner.

01:38:53.000 There's a place called the Honourable Artillery, um, Barracks, and that's ten minutes from where I worked, and that is where they kept all the dead bodies from the 7-7 attacks.

01:39:04.000 So the police outside there, every time I used to walk past, they used to, uh, Have something to say call my name or something like that And I think it was just a campaign trying to put psychological stress and pressure upon me because obviously If it came down to me testifying they want me to be deemed unfit to testify or something like that and And I think they just didn't want a public inquiry anyway.

01:39:32.000 So they got their own way and there was no public inquiry.

01:39:35.000 Any other types of harassment?

01:39:37.000 And then let's talk about how you finally got your meeting with the police and what they did.

01:39:40.000 Yeah, well...

01:39:42.000 I was chased once in Aldgate.

01:39:44.000 A guy just came after me.

01:39:46.000 I had arranged to meet someone from the office and then I got there, this guy came after me so I actually ran into this building and then he ran in there and followed me and I actually hid in some offices.

01:40:01.000 What did he look like?

01:40:03.000 I'm not saying I'm a tough guy, but if somebody wants to run up on me, I'm going to deck them.

01:40:06.000 I guess it's smarter to run.

01:40:08.000 Explain to me what happened.

01:40:09.000 Describe it in detail.

01:40:10.000 What did he look like?

01:40:11.000 Did he growl and start running at you?

01:40:13.000 He was actually there waiting for me.

01:40:16.000 That's the thing.

01:40:19.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:40:20.000 me initially he was there waiting for me and as soon as i went past him he just set off cross the road and came after me so i didn't run because i was scared of him because i'm not scared of any of these people obviously you're on air i know i'm not scared if they want to do what they want to do go ahead and do it the truth is going to be out there regardless so i just i'm trying to escape from him by ducking into some building and then you know i just thought here i see and i'm stupid my instinct was

01:40:49.000 i would have gotten a fight but you're smart because by then you knew it was police and actually they would have then got you claiming you just assaulted an officer and and you know the 50 cameras on you in the surveilled city of four and a half million would have all malfunctioned and then they would have claimed you assaulted an officer Yeah, precisely.

01:41:04.000 That's what they were trying to do all along.

01:41:07.000 Because they asked my flatmate whether I had any criminal convictions.

01:41:12.000 They were already delving into my background and my past.

01:41:16.000 Trying to find out whether I had any kind of dodgy or criminal past or tendencies or convictions.

01:41:24.000 And I think they were trying to use that as a kind of weapon with which they could find me.

01:41:30.000 It's a lever.

01:41:31.000 That's what spooks and operatives and informants do.

01:41:33.000 We develop that here locally.

01:41:37.000 Please continue.

01:41:38.000 I want to bring Steve Watson up.

01:41:40.000 You're just telling so much more now.

01:41:41.000 Steve, thanks for holding.

01:41:43.000 Any other key points you want to bring up here with Daniel?

01:41:47.000 Well, I was just going to say, why do you think it is that the police didn't ask you to come in and give a statement straight away, but it was later revealed that They relied on the testimony of people who were at the scene, but, you know, they were either injured or even unconscious in some cases.

01:42:09.000 And also, could you talk about, you know, some of the phone calls that you got from, you said you got some phone calls from different police departments across the country.

01:42:19.000 And you posted those up on your website as well.

01:42:22.000 Yeah, talk about that.

01:42:24.000 Um, yeah, they were from the West Yorkshire Police Constabulary.

01:42:28.000 They were the police constabulary investigating the four alleged bombers and one of them decided to call me one evening and suggest something which I couldn't make out.

01:42:43.000 I said, hey, you've got the wrong number, guy.

01:42:45.000 And he continued and called the following day and I recorded it and posted it on the web.

01:42:50.000 It just says that I had a vehicle which was involved with transporting something or other to do with the investigation into the 7-7 bombings.

01:43:02.000 You know, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I forgot to do this.

01:43:05.000 John, will you go to his website, and again, Daniel, give my producer at the network your website again, we've got a link to it on Apple Wars.

01:43:16.000 World Wide Web, The Fourth Bomb, it's 4-4-4-t-h-bomb.com.

01:43:23.000 Yeah, go to thefourthbomb.com, and I know I've listened to that a few days ago.

01:43:28.000 Where specifically is that clip so we can grab that right now and play it?

01:43:31.000 Yeah, if you go to one of the four boxes, I think it's the third box.

01:43:41.000 You also got audio on the web and video from the police interrogating you.

01:43:47.000 Let's tell that story.

01:43:48.000 Finally, six months later, after demanding it, you get there meeting with them.

01:43:53.000 Tell us about that.

01:43:55.000 Um, it, it was just, it wasn't as much as I had hoped it would.

01:43:59.000 They just took my details, but what they did was, um, he rushed through it.

01:44:04.000 It took four hours, but he rushed through it.

01:44:07.000 He was, it wasn't really as if they were depending on my information and eyewitness accounts.

01:44:14.000 As a vital part of the inquiry, because of course they had already completed their inquiries or whatever they wanted to say were their inquiries months ago.

01:44:25.000 So what they did was they waited till they worked out their story and then kept me running and then brought me in and just said, hey, okay, what's your story?

01:44:35.000 Just so that they could do their paperwork.

01:44:38.000 But that's all it was, just paperwork.

01:44:40.000 Tell folks about the diagram.

01:44:43.000 Oh, the diagram.

01:44:44.000 Um, are you talking about which one?

01:44:47.000 Because there's been quite a few.

01:44:49.000 Oh yeah, the bus diagram, which they, um, asked me to, um, sign.

01:44:54.000 The bus diagram which they asked me to mark out, um, where the people were sitting on the bus and where the people were standing and what happened on the bus, it, the diagram was the complete wrong Lay out for the bus.

01:45:10.000 And I said to the anti-terrorist branch detective who was taking my statement, this is completely incorrect.

01:45:18.000 So by me signing this, that's just going to make, just going to render everything which I've told you inadmissible.

01:45:26.000 So I think it was just a ploy.

01:45:28.000 They didn't really want my information, as you would understand.

01:45:34.000 Amazing.

01:45:36.000 Steve, there's a lot of other facets to this.

01:45:39.000 Any other questions you've got for the guest we have?

01:45:42.000 Yeah, I would also point out that, you know, Daniel had a shirt, which I believe he still has, with, you know, victim's blood on it, which should have been taken for forensic testing, but they weren't even interested in that either.

01:45:58.000 It's as if they've worked out previously You know, a line to take on this, and they weren't deviating from the line, even though you've got, you know, a first-hand witness here saying this is incorrect.

01:46:09.000 You've got a layout of the bus which is incorrect.

01:46:11.000 I mean, if this doesn't tell us that we need an independent inquiry on this, then what else does?

01:46:21.000 Knowing what you know now, knowing all the evidence concerning government involvement or black ops involvement, intelligence involvement in past attacks and in the 7-7 attack, seeing your bus erected by these shadowy government characters, seeing people on the ground seconds after it happened, the fake bandages, what do you think was really going on there?

01:46:21.000 Okay.

01:46:45.000 Who do you think was behind the bombings?

01:46:49.000 I know who wasn't behind the bomb of the bus, but I couldn't really hazard a guess.

01:46:58.000 It was obviously someone with a lot of power higher up.

01:47:03.000 So, I mean, I've got to live out here, so it's quite obvious who did it.

01:47:08.000 Unless I can actually provide evidence.

01:47:11.000 That's what the website is about.

01:47:13.000 Putting the evidence out there so people can decide for themselves.

01:47:15.000 But who didn't do it?

01:47:17.000 Because you didn't see an Asian, no one else on record said they did.

01:47:20.000 Yeah, Haseeth Hussain didn't do it.

01:47:22.000 Haseeth Hussain didn't blow up the bus, but hey, who did?

01:47:26.000 So, that's what we've got to find out.

01:47:28.000 And that's what we're all working towards.

01:47:30.000 And the truth will out.

01:47:32.000 That's one thing I know.

01:47:34.000 Everything you're doing, everything like-minded individuals are doing will feed to that.

01:47:42.000 Absolutely.

01:47:43.000 This is just off the charts powerful and again it fits with the other witness testimonies, all the other information we have.

01:47:51.000 How do you think individuals who did carry this out can live with themselves just killing innocent I don't think they, um...

01:48:03.000 really care they have a role and they have a an objective and their goal is doing that if it kills people they say hey that's just how it goes we're saving you from the evil terrorists and all the crazy people in the world who are out to destroy you so they see that they probably see their role as on helping people even though they're just killing people yeah we gotta kill a few so they'll accept security to keep them safe exactly 0.98

01:48:33.000 Totally sick! 0.95

01:48:34.000 Steve Watson?

01:48:37.000 Yeah, I mean, if we do delve into a bit of the evidence, we've got, you know, numerous advance warnings from other intelligence agencies, from French, Spanish, the Saudis, who said, you know, gave an exact time frame for this, and Scotland Yard themselves, who, you know, told the Israeli Embassy on the very morning, minutes before that it was going to

01:48:58.000 It was going to go off, and Benjamin Netanyahu, who was in a hotel on Tavistock Square, which is a point that is often missed, he was told to stay in the hotel, which, you know, that kind of proves that they had precise location information as well, so we need to keep working towards outing the truth on this.

01:49:20.000 Well, we need to put this guy's face up everywhere, and we've got, look, we've got technologies to scan his face, do a composite by reducing to the lines beneath the bandages.

01:49:31.000 I actually know some police sketch artists who can, we can use computer mapping to get this guy's face.

01:49:42.000 This is the type of stuff we'll put a six feet under, but what the hell?

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01:53:55.000 Welcome back.

01:53:57.000 I tell ya, the courage of our guest, Daniel Obachicky, The courage of Steve Watson.

01:54:04.000 They're over there in London in one of the biggest police states in the world.

01:54:07.000 I mean, you try to videotape on the street, they come over and tell you to shut it off.

01:54:10.000 They don't allow protesting now.

01:54:12.000 There's secret police everywhere.

01:54:15.000 It is certainly like something out of V for Vendetta.

01:54:19.000 But the good news is, more and more is coming out.

01:54:21.000 You know, 80-something percent know they killed Diana now.

01:54:24.000 Eighty-plus percent know they killed Dr. David Kelly. 0.93

01:54:26.000 And everybody knows they're a bunch of criminals.

01:54:29.000 And you're coming down. 0.92

01:54:31.000 Your New World Order is going to fail.

01:54:33.000 And your big, fat German commander, Sachs-Coburg-Gotha, your criminality will be exposed. 0.77

01:54:43.000 And that's just the way it is. 0.92

01:54:45.000 Daniel and Steve Watson, we've got you for a few minutes here, and then five minutes the next, I'm going to let you go.

01:54:50.000 Any other points that need to be made, please make them now.

01:54:54.000 And my final question, why did you go public?

01:54:56.000 When did you go public?

01:54:58.000 Daniel, give us that timeline.

01:55:00.000 I had to go public, it was the only thing I could do.

01:55:04.000 They were constantly harassing me, and even when I was trying to work and get jobs, they were getting in there and holding me, preventing me from gaining employment, so I had to fight back somehow, and the only way To get back is by making sure what it is they didn't want to be out there was out there.

01:55:25.000 So that's what the book, the forthcoming book, theforthbomb.com and the website is all about.

01:55:32.000 Just to, it's actually something which is helping me as well, helping me get through it.

01:55:39.000 Now, who's publishing this?

01:55:40.000 I saw a little note in your narrative that you exclusively gave us, sections of the book, but you mentioned that the publisher's like, well, let's not get into the guy with the bandages, that's not too important.

01:55:50.000 What do you mean that's not too important?

01:55:52.000 I hope that ends up in the book!

01:55:56.000 He is referred to in the book but it doesn't actually enhance the story that much.

01:56:02.000 There is another guy who was in the square that day, an agent, who I'm going to put something on one of the Internet sites, like Google TV or something like that, which shows you he's actually directing the police and everything.

01:56:17.000 So that's going to...

01:56:19.000 Wait, wait, there's video of this?

01:56:20.000 Tell us who he is.

01:56:21.000 No, I can't at the moment.

01:56:22.000 I can't at the moment.

01:56:23.000 It'll be with you soon.

01:56:25.000 As soon as it's ready, I'll just forward you the link.

01:56:28.000 What, did you find it off a local TV clip or something?

01:56:31.000 I mean, you said that's the guy that was directing?

01:56:33.000 Or, I mean...

01:56:34.000 Well, it's going to be on those TV websites where you can download media.

01:56:41.000 I'm gonna stick it on one of those.

01:56:42.000 So that, um... I'm just trying to find out where you got the video.

01:56:46.000 It was actually televised on the British television.

01:56:49.000 I understand, so that's what I just guessed, is that later you saw the news and said, hey, that's the guy, you've got a clip of it.

01:56:55.000 Buddy, if you're pulling pictures of the other one, you better get that up now and not wait until the book comes out. 0.98

01:57:00.000 I'm telling you, Daniel, you're not stupid. 0.99

01:57:02.000 I'm not waiting. 1.00

01:57:03.000 You're not stupid. 0.99

01:57:03.000 You know how dangerous this is. 0.99

01:57:06.000 They just screamed it on TV because they thought no one would recognize him.

01:57:10.000 But because I was there, I just jumped and nearly hit the ceiling when I saw that.

01:57:15.000 And you were able to record it.

01:57:16.000 Oh, this is again. 0.99

01:57:17.000 Again, they're arrogant. 0.98

01:57:18.000 Stay there. 0.95

01:57:19.000 Final segment.

01:57:19.000 We'll play some clips when we get back of these strange phone calls and things.

01:57:24.000 I'm Alex Jones.

01:57:25.000 Stay with me.

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01:58:01.000 Engaging the Global Crime Syndicate at point-blank range, going in, through, and beyond, fearlessly defending the going in, through, and beyond, fearlessly defending the Constitutional Republic, defending the UK, defending all sovereign nations against globalist takeover.

01:58:25.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and Daniel Obitake is our guest, along with our writer and editor of Infowars.net and contributor to PrisonPlanet.com, Steve Watson.

01:58:37.000 We have one clip.

01:58:38.000 There's video clips, a lot more.

01:58:39.000 You've got to visit the Fourth Bomb website.

01:58:43.000 We'll give you before our guest leaves here in just a few minutes.

01:58:45.000 But this clip we're about to play, again, briefly describe this phone call you got.

01:58:50.000 You got one from him the next day.

01:58:51.000 You were smart enough to record it.

01:58:52.000 Tell us what we're about to hear.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, it's a call from West Yorkshire Police, the police who were investigating the four bombers, and it was, I got this August, which was about a month or so after the 7th of July bombing.

01:59:09.000 And again, they were there videotaping all the victims so they'd know who to intimidate and control for whoever was an unconscious.

01:59:15.000 Here's the clip right here.

01:59:16.000 I'm calling from South Yorkshire Police.

01:59:19.000 Ah, go ahead.

01:59:21.000 Try to get some correspondence out to yourself.

01:59:24.000 A vehicle with this telephone number on.

01:59:29.000 We've tried to send some correspondence to the address of the company.

01:59:32.000 Is the company correct?

01:59:34.000 What company?

01:59:36.000 Jumbo Freight.

01:59:38.000 Sorry, I think you have the wrong number.

01:59:40.000 I don't have the wrong number because it's wrote on the back of the van.

01:59:42.000 One minute.

01:59:43.000 Jumbo Freight.

01:59:45.000 It doesn't ring a bell.

01:59:47.000 OK, I think we should go back and do some homework.

01:59:49.000 No, excuse me.

01:59:53.000 And so you hung up on them?

01:59:55.000 I did, yeah.

01:59:56.000 And you're walking down the street and cops are going, ha ha ha, it's Daniel Obocegi, ha ha ha!

02:00:02.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:00:03.000 It's all real fun! 0.82

02:00:05.000 It's real fun to be a bunch of thugs! 0.69

02:00:07.000 It's real fun to push people around! 0.99

02:00:08.000 It's real fun to be involved in killing women and men! 1.00

02:00:11.000 I'm sorry, go ahead. 0.96

02:00:13.000 Yeah, um, they followed me on, like, buses, trains, everywhere I went.

02:00:18.000 I mean, it was just, it got so much, so I was just trying to keep myself together.

02:00:22.000 That's why I put this together because, hey, if any event, I'm not here, the book will still be here.

02:00:28.000 That's how it is.

02:00:29.000 So you've already faced the fact that they may kill you.

02:00:32.000 I think that lessens as you go more and more public.

02:00:35.000 Well, maybe.

02:00:36.000 Who knows?

02:00:37.000 Odd things improve or things get worse.

02:00:39.000 So you've got to take precautions and contingencies.

02:00:43.000 But, hey, I'm not really afraid of anything.

02:00:46.000 I'm moving forward.

02:00:47.000 This is going to be out there thanks to people like yourself.

02:00:51.000 Splitting the word hopefully people can go online and order a copy that helps get it to the when your book comes out We want to carry it and we'll definitely have you back on I'm sure even before then and when the book comes out and it's scheduled to come out the next three months.

02:01:06.000 Yeah Steve Watson any closing comments Well, yeah, I'd just say that you know everything that we're doing Towards is towards getting a public inquiry going on this because once If that ever happened then you know the the whole thing would just fall apart the They want us to believe that it's just, you know, four people who just decided to bomb something one day.

02:01:29.000 Well, it's not.

02:01:30.000 It goes a lot deeper, and that's what we need to work towards.

02:01:34.000 Well, the key is this guy with the bandages on his head, they're totally staged, and the other individual that Daniel saw giving everybody orders, who he's now gotten off television news.

02:01:44.000 Steve, you ought to get a camera and get over there and interview Daniel, you know, to get this up with the clip.

02:01:50.000 This is big.

02:01:50.000 We've got to keep working on this.

02:01:52.000 When is the part two to the story going to come out, Steve?

02:01:55.000 It'll be tomorrow.

02:01:58.000 Well, I commend you.

02:01:59.000 I commend both of you.

02:02:02.000 And if you've got anything else you want to add, we can hold you over.

02:02:04.000 If not, I will say goodbye for now.

02:02:07.000 Okay.

02:02:07.000 Thanks for your hard work and thanks.

02:02:13.000 No.

02:02:13.000 Thank you, Daniel.

02:02:14.000 It's people like you that have courage and have their heads screwed on straight.

02:02:18.000 You're extremely credible.

02:02:19.000 It's on record you were on that bus.

02:02:20.000 And everything you say mirrors and meshes with all the other information we have.

02:02:25.000 Also, again, I want to thank you, Steve.

02:02:27.000 It's an honor to be associated with true men of courage like yourselves.

02:02:31.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:02:33.000 We'll be right back.

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02:05:51.000 Welcome back already into the last 52 minutes of this transmission.

02:05:55.000 You just joined this amazing interview with a survivor of the London bus bombing, clearly government operation.

02:06:03.000 A detailed report up on Infowars.net and Part 2 tomorrow.

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02:10:59.000 Hi Alex, good to be with you again.

02:11:01.000 It's good to have you with us.

02:11:02.000 For the listeners that don't know who you are, a little bit about yourself, a little bit about the site.

02:11:05.000 Then, uh, oh, guys, I forgot.

02:11:07.000 Did you get the Jesse Jackson confrontation clip I told you to get yesterday for this interview?

02:11:13.000 Did you ever find that, John?

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02:11:21.000 Please go to YouTube.

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02:11:23.000 Type in Jesse Jackson 911 DC and you should be able to pull it up.

02:11:31.000 I want to play that later if we can find it again.

02:11:33.000 Tell us about yourself and then about the DC peace rally that got taken over by 9-11 Truth.

02:11:39.000 Well, I have a background in intelligence.

02:11:41.000 As you mentioned, I was with the National Security Agency during the Reagan Administration.

02:11:48.000 I was in Naval Intelligence for some years.

02:11:53.000 The site I have now, WayneMasterReport.com, I've seen, one of the things that's lacking in Washington is with the demise of good old Drew Pearson's and Jack Anderson's Washington Mirror Go Round, which was a very popular syndicated column that really exposed dirt in Washington.

02:12:11.000 It didn't really go through a lot of hoops and gatekeepers.

02:12:17.000 Since that column, we see these guys in this city getting away with, literally, with murder.

02:12:23.000 And I saw a need to just put the, you know, what I hear on a daily basis in coffee shops, bars, the National Press Club, wherever I hear it, just get it out to the rest of the country and the world.

02:12:37.000 Let's get into what happened Saturday and then I want to get your view on what's happening geopolitically right now.

02:12:42.000 Well, Saturday we, of course, we had the numbers game played again by the By the major media.

02:12:48.000 They use the same old code word.

02:12:51.000 Tens of thousands.

02:12:52.000 We've seen it happen before when there were many more than that involved in these anti-war marches here.

02:12:57.000 And then the headlines picked up thousands.

02:13:00.000 But from what I could see, I was at the first two anti-war marches here in Washington before the war started.

02:13:09.000 The massive ones.

02:13:10.000 There's been smaller ones, certainly.

02:13:13.000 I'd say at least 150,000, probably 200,000 people, maybe a little bit more than that, were here in Washington on Saturday, and the demographics were unlike what I had seen before.

02:13:27.000 This looked like the crowd you would find at the Fourth of July celebrations on the Mall.

02:13:34.000 the same kinds of people, largely middle class, older folks, brought their kids, younger folks, people I'd call yuppies that came in from probably these sub-developments.

02:13:49.000 So a cross-section, very diverse.

02:13:51.000 Oh, yeah, very diverse, and really was middle America.

02:13:56.000 You know, I saw this at the RNC in 2004.

02:14:01.000 I went up to the Empire State Building, and I later saw some photos that didn't get widely circulated, and I would be looking at a cross-section of, say, ten major avenues converging down on Madison Square Garden with police trying to block everything off and make it as hard as possible.

02:14:16.000 So many people that you'd have ten roads Uh, you know, maybe 10, 15 blocks deep, each one, wall to wall, each street had like 100,000.

02:14:26.000 It had to be over a million people.

02:14:27.000 I've never seen anything like it, and the news said 200,000.

02:14:30.000 Right, right, right.

02:14:32.000 And you know what they do here?

02:14:34.000 Take the Washington Mall.

02:14:36.000 We know from past demonstrations, going back to the Martin Luther King march and other anti-Vietnam War marches in the 60s, that you can put a million people in the Washington Mall.

02:14:47.000 So what the National Park Service cleverly did some years ago after Bush came in is they put snow fences up so you can't get people into the mall because parts of it are blocked off, which forces them off onto the side streets, which you know, allows the media and the police to give this skewed estimate of crowd numbers.

02:15:06.000 And now that's what you see is everybody pushed out under the trees behind the other monuments.

02:15:12.000 Yeah, out to the trees, out to the side streets, off the grounds of the mall itself.

02:15:18.000 So they can get away with saying tens of thousands because they're not counting them.

02:15:22.000 Well, here in our free country, every time Bush is inaugurated, they have giant black fences put up, the troops are called out, they point guns at people.

02:15:29.000 I mean, we're a dictatorship!

02:15:32.000 We're a dirtbag, third-world country if this continues!

02:15:35.000 That's right, and I mean, yeah, we've got Bush Institute at some I-never-thought-I'd-hear-in-this-country free speech zones, First Amendment zones.

02:15:42.000 It's outrageous.

02:15:45.000 Continue with your observations.

02:15:48.000 Well, there were many, many groups represented.

02:15:50.000 You mentioned the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:15:52.000 They were there in force.

02:15:54.000 This was a group, although it was anti-the Iraq surge, there were people that didn't think we should have been in Iraq in the first place.

02:16:04.000 A lot of groups were opposed to any sort of military attack on Iran, but it was basically people who had it with Bush.

02:16:12.000 I talked to some of these people, some of them voted for Bush in 2000 and are disgusted now.

02:16:19.000 They had been Republicans.

02:16:21.000 Well, now Limbaugh and Hannity and Savage are really turning the heat up against Shang.

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02:16:29.000 Well, I mean, we know these guys are, you know, as nuts as Bush is.

02:16:34.000 I mean, they put out these talking points that come out of the, you know, the neocon crowd and the RNC, and I think people need to just stop paying attention to them.

02:16:45.000 I'm glad Congress is finally starting to talk about the fairness doctrine coming back to give other people a chance to hit the airwaves, because they are our airwaves.

02:16:54.000 They're public airwaves, and they don't belong to the Limbaugh's and the Hannity's.

02:16:57.000 But, Wayne, we actually disagree on that, because if people want to look at busting up monopolies or oligopolies, we know that the big three broadcast companies are cartels.

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02:17:09.000 I think that should be reversed pre-1996 Telecommunications Act.

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02:21:58.000 What is the scuttlebutt in Washington?

02:22:02.000 What's some new breaking news that may be coming out?

02:22:05.000 Really, where does the attack on Iran stand?

02:22:07.000 We know they've been wanting to hit them for the last month.

02:22:09.000 Where do you see all that going?

02:22:11.000 Well, the Iran situation, we still I don't know where this administration is heading, but we do know that the neoconservative bunch want to hit Iran, and it appears that Bush is still listening to these crazies, including Cheney.

02:22:33.000 A couple of weeks has been out of the Libby trial, Scooter Libby, the Vice President's former Chief of Staff.

02:22:38.000 Let's walk through that.

02:22:39.000 Yeah.

02:22:40.000 You know, there's a lot of attention being paid to this handwritten memo by Cheney, the Libby-Cheney memo, where Cheney says, I'm not going to sacrifice any crosses out the Prez.

02:22:53.000 And then he says, I'm not going to sacrifice one staffer, meaning Libby, for another staffer, meaning Rove.

02:23:01.000 And a lot of people think he means to say, I'm not sacrificing the President.

02:23:06.000 But I read it a little differently.

02:23:08.000 I read it as, I'm not going to sacrifice this one staffer, Libby, who stuck his neck out for the President.

02:23:14.000 You know, that's fine.

02:23:15.000 People can argue about that.

02:23:17.000 There's another thing that was released on January the 30th that I've got up on my website today.

02:23:25.000 It's minutes of a meeting, and it's referred to as Bush's Senior Staff Meeting, sometime after Joe Wilson's op-ed piece in the New York Times, where he said, look, Bush was full of it when it came to this yellow cake out in Niger, There's a meeting and we don't get too many chances to have Insights into the Bush administration.

02:23:47.000 It's the most secretive administration on record, and that includes Nixon.

02:23:52.000 And what we see from the minutes is, discussed at this meeting, right after the Wilson op-ed piece, is Mikhail Kotorkovsky, who is the Yukos, Russian oil company executive, who is now in jail because Putin put him in there for tax evasion and fraud.

02:24:13.000 He was a colleague in a company of Boris Berezovsky, and we know all about Berezovsky with this Litmanenko thing, because it appears to me, anyway, and people have told me, that it looks like Litmanenko was involved in maybe a dirty bomb plot.

02:24:27.000 He was dealing with the Chechen guerrillas.

02:24:29.000 Berezovsky makes no bones about the fact that he says he's the grandfather of the Chechen Mujahideen.

02:24:35.000 Now remember, these are the same Chechens who the neocons are always saying are allied with Osama bin Laden.

02:24:41.000 So, we have to put all this in perspective, but Khodorkovsky is discussed, the Turks are discussed, and we know that Litvinenko and Berezovsky were using the Turks to supply the Chechens with materials, and maybe including radioactive material, and here's the real kicker in this.

02:24:58.000 So, are you saying this is a U.S.-Israeli-slash-replay of the Afghan-Russian War?

02:25:03.000 I think it could be.

02:25:04.000 It could be.

02:25:05.000 It seems that way.

02:25:06.000 But here, the real kicker is on that same list is the name A.Q.

02:25:09.000 Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist.

02:25:12.000 With the mention of the Turks, A.Q. 0.94

02:25:15.000 Khan and Khodorkovsky, which is really Yukos and Berezovsky and all these other Russian-Israeli gangsters who Putin has arrest warrants out for the ones he hasn't grabbed a hold of, including Leonid Nezlin, who Litmanenko met before his demise from Polonium-210 poisoning.

02:25:33.000 This, to me, looks like what I've always suspected.

02:25:37.000 Although Cheney and gang were against Joe Wilson and wanted to hang him out to dry, I really always believe that the real target of Cheney and these guys like Libby, and remember, Libby was the attorney for Mark Rich, the international smuggler who Clinton pardoned the international smuggler who Clinton pardoned in the 11th hour because he was having an affair.

02:25:58.000 Yeah, it's always the same players.

02:26:00.000 Yeah, it's Clinton Bush, Clinton Bush.

02:26:03.000 And what I see is that the real target of Cheney and his gang was Valerie Plain Wilson's Brewster Jennings network, which was rolling up these networks, these smuggling, nuclear smuggling networks.

02:26:14.000 I agree with that.

02:26:19.000 Burning Wilson was just like a side bonus.

02:26:22.000 It was really about the criminal network blowing the cover of different echelons of the intelligence and security branch that were doing their job.

02:26:31.000 Absolutely.

02:26:31.000 And the minutes of this meeting, which were held sometime after the July 6, 2003 op-ed piece, there's other issues discussed.

02:26:41.000 But it's just, to me, it's the smoking gun.

02:26:44.000 And the question is, we've been hearing this a while from the intelligence community, how many people in CIA, Defense Intelligence, NSA, and I know it's all compartmentalized, know that there was more than just burning then.

02:26:55.000 It was about blowing networks.

02:26:56.000 It was, and it did.

02:26:57.000 It rolled up the entire counter-proliferation network that had been put together over the years by... Which Bush signed W199I, ordering the FBI to back off AQ Khan Laboratories. 0.56

02:27:08.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:27:09.000 And now we see it was a discussion in Bush's senior staff right after, when they were doing the workup on Wilson, and obviously on Valerie Plain Wilson.

02:27:19.000 And that's why Bush is in deep trouble, because so many people in their own system are now leaking.

02:27:23.000 We'll talk about leaks and take your calls on the other side.

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02:31:54.000 Wayne, do you think Bush will be able to make it out of his term?

02:31:58.000 Clearly the Democrat establishment circled the wagons with Hillary and Pelosi and they're kind of trying to put the brakes on things, blocking any impeachment, blocking a repeal of Patriot Act or Military Commissions Act or John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

02:32:10.000 Looks like the Democrats are just going to stay in and just keep all the new powers the neocon agenda has given them.

02:32:17.000 Or is there a way out of this?

02:32:19.000 or or or things so coming bush yesterday that the stock exchange literally was like more bushes in one speech than in all the previous together he was in with the the but you know you did you see it oh yeah and i came after the of course the incident at the caterpillar plan in peoria where he got this this bulldozer and you know try to attack the members of the media and that was their covering it the secret service

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02:32:53.000 He's a sociopath! 1.00

02:32:55.000 You know, I've said now that we have the 25th Amendment, which talks about the removal of the President for physical or mental incapacity. 0.98

02:33:06.000 And I think people forget about the mental part.

02:33:08.000 Has he had many strokes or is it the drug abuse?

02:33:11.000 I think it's fetal alcohol syndrome, the drugs he used, the fact he wasn't too smart anyway.

02:33:18.000 It's a whole lot of things, but this guy doesn't belong in that.

02:33:22.000 I was down at the Central Library, and I'm not being mean, I was down at the Central Library doing some research last night.

02:33:28.000 And you know, that's where the really mentally ill homeless stay, because they shut down the state hospital and built condos here in Austin. 0.50

02:33:34.000 So, there's literally like 20, 30 of them out front, and they're all talking to themselves, saying things to you, gibbering. 0.96

02:33:40.000 And I mean, Bush acts like someone with serious brain damage.

02:33:46.000 Yeah, I mean, he makes some of them look good, because we have the same situation in Washington with people on the street.

02:33:51.000 But, you know, this guy, you know, the 25th Amendment says that, you know, if Cheney had a stroke, he was, you know, he just couldn't perform the duties, well, the Cabinet would meet, and if there was a majority of the Cabinet that decided he needed to be replaced, they would replace him.

02:34:07.000 Now, of course, that gives us Cheney.

02:34:09.000 But see, if you get rid of Bush under the 25th Amendment for mental incapacity, then of course the people in Congress can take a look at Cheney and try to impeach him!

02:34:22.000 But, you know, back during Watergate, you know, the three great beards of the Republican Party, Barry Goldwater, who was basically the unofficial leader of the Republicans, the Senator at that time, Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott, and House Minority Leader John Rhodes, after the articles of impeachment were voted against Nixon, they went to the White House and said, look, it's time for you to go!

02:34:46.000 We can't support you!

02:34:48.000 And Nixon went.

02:34:49.000 You know, you could have John Warner and Lugar and all these other Republicans go up to Bush and say, look, you know, if, say there were articles of impeachment, I don't think this guy will do what Nixon did.

02:35:03.000 This guy, I think, you know, I envisage even when his terms up, the U.S.

02:35:07.000 Marshals would have to go in there and physically remove this nutcase.

02:35:11.000 I mean, that's just my gut feeling after seeing them.

02:35:13.000 But Bush wasn't this bad when he was governor.

02:35:16.000 He would give a decent speech.

02:35:17.000 Something happened in those two years after he got elected, and now he's rapidly degenerating.

02:35:22.000 No one, literally, did you see the speech?

02:35:25.000 Because I heard about it, so I went and watched it online.

02:35:27.000 He literally, literally acted like someone in a mental institution.

02:35:32.000 He's deteriorating rapidly.

02:35:36.000 I remember he used to be somewhat coherent, but we've got a real bad situation.

02:35:40.000 We've never had this in our history.

02:35:43.000 It's just a shame that people Uh, aren't waking up and figuring this guy out, that this guy's not only a danger to our nation, he's a danger to the, to the planet!

02:35:51.000 And, uh... I mean, Ronald Reagan got shot so he was sick and took naps and stuff, but he could get up and speak well and had ten times the faculty of Bush.

02:35:57.000 I mean, and I hear neocons on air going, he's so smart, he's so well-spoken.

02:36:02.000 It's like a joke!

02:36:03.000 Oh, well, he's good for them because he does exactly what they tell him to do, but this guy, at best, he got a gentleman's C in Yale and Harvard.

02:36:16.000 And that's with granddaddy and daddy.

02:36:18.000 Yeah, that's called legacy.

02:36:19.000 That's being a legacy student, you know?

02:36:22.000 But anyway, this guy doesn't just... We've got two years left!

02:36:30.000 Are we going to survive this?

02:36:31.000 I just don't think we will.

02:36:32.000 We may end up being like Yeltsin in a wheelchair, just giggling and drooling. 0.78

02:36:36.000 Well, that's right, that's right.

02:36:38.000 I just think that now we see Republicans starting to wake up and smell Fossey.

02:36:43.000 Do you think he's back on Columbian Flake and Jack Daniels?

02:36:46.000 Well, I'll tell you, he's a Jim Beam guy, I understand.

02:36:50.000 Remember the pretzel incident?

02:36:52.000 He choked on a pretzel.

02:36:54.000 I heard way back then, and that was way before 9-11, he had just been president.

02:36:58.000 For a few months, but that was a heavy imbibement and Jim Beam and beer and he passed out, which I don't think, obviously wasn't the first time.

02:37:09.000 Have you seen a few months ago when him and Laura got off the helicopter at Crawford and they're both stumbling?

02:37:14.000 Oh yeah, well, you know, she's got her hands full too. 1.00

02:37:17.000 I wouldn't blame her if she started drinking, but you know, you have to live with that.

02:37:22.000 But yeah, no, the country's in bad shape and we have a process.

02:37:26.000 You know, the 25th Amendment.

02:37:29.000 You know, if he had a stroke we certainly wouldn't want him in there.

02:37:32.000 Well, maybe he's just drunk in public.

02:37:35.000 Well, somebody's got to step in.

02:37:39.000 If it's the Republicans and Democrats and the Congress, we'd get together.

02:37:43.000 But I still just don't think this guy's going to leave willingly.

02:37:46.000 I just have this vision.

02:37:48.000 But how is it not a major... I mean, we know the media is bought and paid for by the military-industrial complex, but how can the media ignore the fact that the guy literally is acting like a mentally ill homeless person? 0.89

02:38:00.000 Well, yeah, I mean, because they like their rides on Air Force One, and they get the big jumbo shrimp at the buffets that are set up for the press.

02:38:09.000 I mean, why would you want to turn that down?

02:38:10.000 I mean, they're putting their own... And now we know, of course we know out of the Libby trial, we know who they went to.

02:38:16.000 We have a list provided by the Vice President's office on who their water carriers were, and it was Tim Russert and all the usual suspects from the major media.

02:38:24.000 These guys don't belong in there.

02:38:25.000 Well, right now we have memos with Cheney admitting these are their operatives.

02:38:29.000 Exactly!

02:38:29.000 Yeah, these guys we go to.

02:38:31.000 He even says one of them that Meet the Press is the place to go.

02:38:34.000 I mean, this guy Rusher should be bounced out of there because, you know, how dare, you know, they have him, you know, there used to be great hosts of Meet the Press, you know, Michael Spivak and others.

02:38:47.000 He doesn't, you know, he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath with some of those.

02:38:53.000 I mean, the guy's just a water carrier for this administration, and he and other ones, their names show up on a list.

02:39:03.000 I mean, I have never seen anything more condemning of the media than that list, because it basically proves what I've said all along, that these guys are functioning as PR people for this White House.

02:39:15.000 Well, we've got Bush's degenerating and Cheney constantly falling asleep at meetings, looks totally unhealthy, five heart attacks, who knows what else, four cardiologists falling at all times, excuse me, three cardiologists, I mean, this is insane!

02:39:31.000 Well, it is, you know, and you know, it's just we do, but you know, I get back to the founders of this country, And the people who amended the Constitution foresaw this type of thing happening, and I just wish people would start looking at that 25th Amendment.

02:39:46.000 It's there.

02:39:46.000 It's part of the Constitution.

02:39:48.000 Last question before we get to the Democrats.

02:39:50.000 Well, first the Democrats, then calls.

02:39:53.000 What are Democratic constituents doing seeing the traitorous activities of the Democrats?

02:39:58.000 Oh, well, I mean, you've got, you know, the problem is with, you know, we've got Hillary Clinton, she's flopping around on the war issue. 1.00

02:40:07.000 I just don't think she's, I think her, they can put her at the top of these polls, but I just don't see her Uh, as the candidate, unless she, you know, steals, steals the nomination.

02:40:17.000 Then we got Biden making comments about how Barack Obama's a clean black.

02:40:22.000 Oh yeah, well, Biden, he's done this before.

02:40:24.000 In 88, of course, he stole a speech, he plagiarized a speech from Neil Kinnock, the Labour Party leader in Britain, had to drop out of the race then.

02:40:32.000 I mean, Biden, Biden is, you know, I mean, he, he, you know, he comes from the coal mine area of northern, Northeastern Pennsylvania.

02:40:39.000 He's kind of like the kind of guy you'd meet in a bar, you know, after these guys get off their shift in the coal mine.

02:40:45.000 I mean, he just talks off the top of his head, you know.

02:40:47.000 I mean, but, you know, is that presidential material?

02:40:51.000 No.

02:40:51.000 I mean, look, he's an intelligent guy.

02:40:54.000 He's certainly not in the same category as Bush, but he shoots his mouth off, says things like clean blacks and stuff like that. 0.99

02:40:59.000 It's just terrible. 0.99

02:40:59.000 It's terrible. 0.99

02:41:00.000 And I think he is probably the most short-lived candidate for the presidency we've seen.

02:41:06.000 I think even his 88 campaign lasted longer than this one.

02:41:11.000 Have you noticed how the media is not even mentioning Congressman Ron Paul's run for presidency?

02:41:15.000 Well, you know, they're not mentioning his and they're not mentioning my guy on the Democratic side, former Senator Mike Revelle, and you're probably interested, Mike Revelle's in favor of the fair tax.

02:41:26.000 You know, and fortunately he has been invited to the big DNC beauty contest, they call it, this weekend in Washington, so he is starting to get a little bit of attention, but you know, his name is never mentioned.

02:41:39.000 He's the guy that basically defunded the Vietnam War.

02:41:42.000 He's been around D.C.

02:41:43.000 for a long time, and you know, if he could have gotten us out of Vietnam, and he did, he helped immensely to do that, and helped expose the Pentagon Papers to the public, he can get us out of Iraq. 0.98

02:41:55.000 Where do you see Iraq going?

02:41:57.000 I mean, is it just going to go on forever?

02:41:58.000 I mean, obviously Bush did the surge, so the Democrats could gripe about that, instead of griping about troop pull-downs.

02:42:05.000 Well, I guess General Casey, who really took a beating from McCain today, in the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he doesn't see a reason to have as many as 21,000 troops over there now.

02:42:16.000 Of course, you know, McCain, who was sold out a long time ago, I guess he wants to send whatever troops we have remaining, all of them into Iraq.

02:42:24.000 But look, there has never been a president who has created such low morale in the military.

02:42:30.000 One of the groups marching this past Saturday were the military families against the war.

02:42:35.000 They have people in Iraq now.

02:42:38.000 Some of them were in Iraq.

02:42:40.000 They were veterans of Iraq and they just say it is awful.

02:42:43.000 And I would also mention that recently Stephen Kappas, who was fired by Porter Goss, he was the Deputy Director for Operations of the CIA and he and Goss got into it.

02:42:53.000 Goss fired him.

02:42:54.000 Hayden, the new Director of the CIA, went to England to hire him back.

02:42:58.000 He's now Deputy Director of the CIA.

02:43:00.000 He told a bunch of former intelligence officers He said, look, I can't get into it because it's classified, but if you knew the details of what is happening in Iraq, you'd leave this meeting very, very depressed.

02:43:11.000 I mean, that's from the number two guy in the CIA.

02:43:13.000 Well, yeah, it's completely lawless.

02:43:15.000 Let's go ahead and take a call from Jeffrey in Louisiana, then Dave, Shirley, Glenn, and John.

02:43:20.000 Go ahead, Jeffrey, you're on the air.

02:43:22.000 All right, I'm going to be brief because I've been waiting two hours.

02:43:25.000 First of all, the anti-semitic linking by Polizano of you to the anti-semitic side is not new.

02:43:32.000 There's been a campaign going on for the past month, financed by the usual suspects, with a program on public television linking it to the protocols of the learned elders of Zion and to other documents claiming that Jews drink Arabic's blood.

02:43:45.000 Number two, I got your information yesterday about the North American Union and the Trans-Texas Corridor on WIST on the Corey Johnson program.

02:43:57.000 And when I got finished, Corey Johnson frankly linked me to the UFOs and to any other crazy organization because he can't accept the idea that New Orleans is being bypassed for that situation.

02:44:09.000 And finally, number three, we have a bus service that's run by the government between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

02:44:15.000 Last week I had to get my clarinet repaired at the stores in Baton Rouge.

02:44:19.000 When I got to the bus, the buses had no bathrooms and after having gone through that torture, I got to the bus stop at two blocks from the music store and the police had to take me to the store because the crime situation in Baton Rouge is just as horrible as it is in New Orleans.

02:44:36.000 We've been told this by a lot of people in Red Stick, there in Baton Rouge, that it is just hell on earth.

02:44:43.000 And this is just the ongoing unraveling.

02:44:47.000 But going back to the Paula Zahn piece, yeah, the local fake liberal groups, the Ford Foundation fronts, they're all trying to link anybody who talks about 9-11 truth to the minority that is being anti-Semitic.

02:44:59.000 Wayne Madsen, that's not going to work though.

02:45:01.000 Isn't that a desperation move?

02:45:02.000 Yeah, look, they tried that with me, too.

02:45:05.000 You know, as you say, from the usual APAC, ADL crowd.

02:45:10.000 And, you know, I mean, just, you know, the only thing you can do is just keep reporting, you know, the truth.

02:45:15.000 These people aren't going to go anywhere.

02:45:17.000 They're going to, you know, beat their drums and continue to, you know, what they've done in the past.

02:45:23.000 You know, many members of Congress have gone up against these people, from Cynthia McKinney more recently, going back to Senator Fulbright.

02:45:31.000 And, you know, I mean, you've just got to keep at them, keep at the truth, and they're going to do what they're going to do.

02:45:39.000 But they're starting to panic because the propaganda isn't working anymore.

02:45:41.000 Thanks, Jeffrey.

02:45:42.000 Let's talk to David in Canada.

02:45:44.000 Thanks for holding your own here.

02:45:46.000 Good to talk to you again, Alex.

02:45:48.000 I just wanted to relay a story about confronting Dr. Roger Gibbons of the Canada West Foundation at a CBC Lunch and Learn is set up in front of about 800 people and it was quite remarkable.

02:46:02.000 If you can get your facts out fast enough, they were literally, they look like they've been hit by a two-by-four.

02:46:07.000 And I really think, I know you have a very high percentage of Canadian listeners.

02:46:07.000 What happened?

02:46:11.000 I really encourage anybody who's trying to wake people up to talk about this issue at these kind of forums because I notice in the States if you bring up a question they're not comfortable with, They pretty much dragged you out of the room, but not only was I able to talk for about four or five minutes and relay a lot of information in that time and confront that individual about his participation in the meetings in Banff, when I was done, I was able to sit there through the rest of the presentation, and it was like there was an elephant in the room.

02:46:38.000 It was about Alberta's place in Confederation, which in the context of North American Union.

02:46:42.000 Yeah, for those who don't know, we're going into North American Union.

02:46:44.000 It's official.

02:46:45.000 They tried to keep it secret.

02:46:46.000 And you're right.

02:46:47.000 In the free country of America, any question they don't like, you're drugged out by mindless police more and more, but up there you can still have an effect.

02:46:54.000 Up there you can get your point across, up there I think it would have been as harmful for them to haul me out of the room as it would for them to just leave me there, which is what they did.

02:47:04.000 And I think if more and more people hear about that issue up in Canada, it's going to open their eyes, not only to a lot of the other developments that are going on.

02:47:12.000 I think Canadians are kind of complacent because they don't believe they're affected by a lot of the stuff that's going on, which is another reason they dismiss a lot of this stuff out of hand.

02:47:22.000 But we really need to turn up the heat up here, especially because I think if we get a lot of people talking about this issue up here, It will be a major problem for the political parties up there.

02:47:31.000 Oh, it is a major problem.

02:47:33.000 All over the world, people are fighting back against tyranny.

02:47:35.000 Thank you for the call.

02:47:36.000 Thank you for holding.

02:47:37.000 We're going to come back and talk to Shirley, Glenn, and John.

02:47:39.000 Final calls quickly for our guests.

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02:47:44.000 Wayne, are you seeing the same thing I'm seeing?

02:47:46.000 Just a huge awakening?

02:47:48.000 Yeah, I am.

02:47:50.000 Part of that has to do with finally we're getting Congress to ask some good questions.

02:47:55.000 I mean, they've been asleep at the wheel for the last six years.

02:47:58.000 And we're hearing it from both parties.

02:48:01.000 So will Bush survive in office for another two years? 0.99

02:48:04.000 Well, like I say, I think he's a sociopath. 0.63

02:48:08.000 I don't think he would ever intend to leave office. 0.82

02:48:11.000 On his own.

02:48:11.000 He'd have to be dragged out of there by maybe federal marshals, FBI agents, you know, whoever else can put him in a straitjacket and put him on the next plane to Crawford.

02:48:22.000 Out to the cowboy movie set?

02:48:25.000 Well, look, I always said I wouldn't even have the guy run a french fry station at a McDonald's. 1.00

02:48:30.000 I think he's that stupid. 1.00

02:48:32.000 Well, Bush, Jr., back in like 1990, didn't know what a laser scanner was at a grocery store. 1.00

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02:51:45.000 Final segment, final call with Wayne Madsen riding shotgun with us.

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02:52:18.000 Let's talk to Shirley in Washington State.

02:52:21.000 You're on the air.

02:52:22.000 Go ahead.

02:52:22.000 Hi, Alex.

02:52:23.000 Nice to talk to you again.

02:52:25.000 I have to be really quick because you have only about a minute for me.

02:52:28.000 There is a group who put together a DVD club and they bought this piece of equipment so they can make 20 DVDs an hour and they wanted you to have this for your listeners.

02:52:45.000 They have three DVDs available.

02:52:48.000 The only thing is I have mixed emotions because then you don't get the higher profits.

02:52:53.000 Yeah, I can't advertise people selling or giving my DVDs away.

02:52:57.000 Okay, then I'll stop right there.

02:52:58.000 People all the time, yeah.

02:53:00.000 Okay, I'll stop right there.

02:53:02.000 Just give them out in your area.

02:53:04.000 Okay, I said you're howling, you and Mr. Mattson delivering these lines.

02:53:11.000 They were so funny.

02:53:13.000 It's funny until you realize these people run things.

02:53:15.000 I know, I know.

02:53:17.000 Rush Limbaugh, we have to get him on lithium carbonate because he's totally bipolar.

02:53:22.000 And we have to increase GW's Thorazine and Haldol.

02:53:27.000 My favorite bumper sticker is, um, I want a president that's fluent in at least one language.

02:53:33.000 We gotta jump, thank you.

02:53:34.000 Call me back tomorrow, we can talk more.

02:53:36.000 Wayne, comments to her?

02:53:37.000 Well, you know, I mean, I agree that, you know, it'd be funny if we were talking about some comedian, but this is the President of the United States, and this guy has his finger on the nuclear trigger, you know, and it just, You know, it's probably the worst type of nightmare situation we could face.

02:53:56.000 But at least he's not fluent and charismatic like Hitler or Stalin.

02:54:02.000 Glenn in New Jersey, you're on the air.

02:54:06.000 Oh, hey, it's such an honor to talk to you, Alex.

02:54:08.000 Boy, I tell you, it's amazing to be on board the ship fighting the New World Order.

02:54:13.000 I saw you at Cooper Union September 10th.

02:54:16.000 I managed to get an Investigate 9-1-1 t-shirt.

02:54:18.000 That was in New York, yeah.

02:54:20.000 Yeah, let me tell you, I witnessed, I literally couldn't go more than two days into my second year of high school here in Jersey City before I witnessed firsthand the events of 9-11.

02:54:30.000 I saw them from the window of my high school building, and I ran straight to the fire, didn't wait for orders from headquarters, and I went straight to my high school, and I managed to give a speech to four classrooms detailing points of previous examples of government-sponsored terror, and I managed to get the word out about such important issues as the North American Union, You know, the operational plan to stage domestic terror against Americans, Operation Northwoods, and I mean, I've aborted the DVDs.

02:54:57.000 I'm trying to get them out to people.

02:54:58.000 I'm trying to rush here because it's the end of your show, but you can tell the urgency in my voice.

02:55:02.000 I witnessed 9-11 firsthand from my high school window, and I wasn't even aware the planes had hit the buildings.

02:55:09.000 All I witnessed was the demolition.

02:55:11.000 It was like a special effect out of a movie.

02:55:14.000 I hear you.

02:55:15.000 I want to hear more about what you did going back to your old school and doing that before You know, in the next few days, call us back with that.

02:55:21.000 Thank you so much for the call.

02:55:23.000 John in Alabama, you're on the air.

02:55:26.000 Last caller, quickly.

02:55:27.000 Yeah, thank you, Alex.

02:55:28.000 I know this might be old news to you, just want to make sure you know.

02:55:31.000 Have you heard of the Forte and F-O-R-D-I-O-N packaging company in Hackensack, New Jersey, suing the city of New York for the non-payment of 100,000 body bags?

02:55:43.000 No, I haven't heard of that.

02:55:44.000 Yes, F-O-R-D-I-O-N, Packaging Company of Hackensack, New Jersey.

02:55:49.000 The lawsuit was filed 7-10-2003.

02:55:53.000 Judge Hellerstein, H-E-L-L-E-R-S-T-E-I-N.

02:55:56.000 Tell people why that's important.

02:55:58.000 It's important because they did something with those 100,000 body bags.

02:56:02.000 There were more than 3,000 people killed there, that's what.

02:56:06.000 I hear you.

02:56:06.000 I appreciate your call.

02:56:08.000 Wayne Madsen, thank you for joining us.

02:56:09.000 Thanks for the time.

02:56:10.000 Good to be with you, Alex.

02:56:11.000 Take care.

02:56:12.000 We'll talk to you soon.

02:56:13.000 I'll see you all tonight at the UT Union.

02:56:16.000 Take care.

Alex Jones Show - February 01, 2007

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