Alex Jones Show - 20070208_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, welcome, my friends.

00:00:30.000 Already the 8th day of February 2007 on this Thursday edition.

00:00:39.000 Soldiers court-martial ends in mistrial.

00:00:42.000 Aaron Lotada, we've interviewed his father, and we're going to be talking to his lawyer today.

00:00:49.000 It was the prosecution that went for the mistrial because they knew that it would be another black eye for the military-industrial complex that has captured our military and our country.

00:01:00.000 And his lawyer, Eric Seitz, will be joining us coming up in 30 minutes.

00:01:06.000 Then in the second hour, We'll have him for about 20 minutes or so.

00:01:09.000 We're going to be joined by Dylan Avery because Dylan is in contact and has talked personally with a Ground Zero EMT worker.

00:01:21.000 Quote, we were told building 7 was to be pulled Now, we have so much evidence of this.

00:01:28.000 It's more than in triplicate.

00:01:29.000 It's more than in quadruplicate.

00:01:31.000 We have so much evidence of this, it's mind-boggling.

00:01:35.000 So we'll play some clips before Dylan joins us, where the firefighters are saying it's as if they had detonators.

00:01:42.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:01:44.000 The floors were popping out.

00:01:46.000 Did you see the steel melting like a foundry?

00:01:49.000 Like the inside of a volcano?

00:01:51.000 Larry Silverstein saying we gave the order to pull building 7.

00:01:56.000 It was reported on local New York NPR radio that the building was going to be quote brought down.

00:02:02.000 Then you have the video of the building, classic control demolition, the fact they were running tripod 2 exercises and had pulled the CIA, FBI, and City, County, Federal, State, and Emergency Management out of the building.

00:02:15.000 That was their command base.

00:02:16.000 That was Giuliani's bunker.

00:02:19.000 We'll go through all of that and then give you The latest eyewitness report.

00:02:26.000 Just last week we had one of the admitted survivors of the bus bombing in London on 7-7 detailing how the bus was taken out of all the other buses, directed by plainclothes, secret police, to Tavistock Square, where the bus then exploded. to Tavistock Square, where the bus then exploded.

00:02:44.000 And he was out of the bus in seconds and saw the secret police types already with their fake bandages running around, others videotaping it, spooks all over the place.

00:02:54.000 Just incredible bombshell eyewitness report for you.

00:02:58.000 Well, Dylan has talked to this individual.

00:03:00.000 We have his text report, the eyewitness put out.

00:03:05.000 He obviously is not going completely public yet, but you may hear him in the next few days, if not next few weeks, here on this transmission or on the new weekend show that, in a lot of the words, Loose Change production crew does right here on the GCN radio network.

00:03:25.000 So that is coming up, and we will detail that in the second hour.

00:03:29.000 In fact, I'm only going to have Watata's lawyer on for about 15 minutes, so by about 45 after, because his lawyer joins us at 30 after, we should be done with the Watata story.

00:03:37.000 And then moving on to more eyewitnesses going public on the controlled demolition of Building 7, that 47-story building that no plane hit, that imploded perfectly.

00:03:50.000 So we'll be going over that for you after we talk to Mr. Watada's lawyer.

00:03:58.000 Speaking of Watada, this is from the Associated Press.

00:04:01.000 Soldier's court-martial ends in mistrial.

00:04:05.000 The judge overseeing the court-martial of an Army lieutenant who refused to deploy to Iraq declared a mistrial Wednesday, saying the soldier did not fully understand the document he signed admitting to elements of the charges.

00:04:18.000 Basically they coerced him into stuff and the prosecution wanted to drop it.

00:04:22.000 Military Judge Lieutenant Colonel John Head announced the decision after First Lieutenant Aaron Watata said he never intended to admit he had a duty to go to Iraq with his fellow soldiers, one element of the crime of missing troop movement.

00:04:37.000 So we'll break that down.

00:04:39.000 They didn't want to have a big public confrontation over the fact that he said Bush was a deceptive, which is now admitted We have the White House's own internal documents on that.

00:04:51.000 We'll get into the continual global warming hype, target Iran, and a lot more. 0.58

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00:08:07.000 Alright, as I mentioned in the first segment, we have Lieutenant Eric Wattadas,

00:08:29.000 Lawyer, mistrial, the government backs off trying to send him to the Huskal, to the Gulag, to the Breg for speaking up publicly and saying the President is dishonest and lied us into this war.

00:08:42.000 I'm not going to be redeployed to Iraq.

00:08:45.000 They have mistrialed it because they don't want to turn this young man into a martyr.

00:08:53.000 Same reason they haven't killed Alejandro Jones yet and so many other patriots.

00:09:00.000 Because they know that that's what makes the grass grow.

00:09:04.000 That's what makes the Liberty Tree get bigger and stronger.

00:09:11.000 As Thomas Jefferson said, The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

00:09:23.000 And the tree of liberty has been watered with the blood of patriots.

00:09:32.000 And, of course, in the second hour, expose a new and just amazing Building 7 revelations, continuing.

00:09:40.000 As more and more eyewitnesses come forward on 7-7 bombings, 9-11, you name it, British terror ops training the insurgents to carry out bombings in Iraq.

00:09:53.000 It's just all coming out in the alternative and mainstream news.

00:09:59.000 The globalists can run, but they cannot hide.

00:10:03.000 Alright, you know about the case that's sent shockwaves across the country and the western world of two valiant border patrol agents pursuing an armed drug smuggler with several hundred pounds of drugs and he In the report, it looked like he was trying to turn around and aim something at them, so they shot him, the drug dealer claims.

00:10:32.000 He went to Mexico, and then weeks later, a deal's made with the Justice Department and the FBI to prosecute the two Border Patrol agents.

00:10:42.000 During their appeal, they have been put in prison.

00:10:47.000 And President Bush has gone public and said they deserve to be there and that it's a good thing.

00:10:52.000 Well, one of them was put in general population Saturday in Louisiana, and according to the prison report, and I have it here in front of me, four to five illegal aliens who were in the jail attacked him, gave him a concussion, and broke several of his ribs.

00:11:14.000 They attacked him, of course, when he was sleeping.

00:11:17.000 They put him in general population, sleeping in his cubicle in a large room of over 50 people.

00:11:25.000 And no one found out about this until Monday.

00:11:26.000 It was his birthday, and Congressman Dana Rohrabacher was trying to secure that his family be able to come and see him that week, and then he learned that he was in the infirmary and was unable to speak with the congressman.

00:11:43.000 and this is how this is how the world turns norquist bush advisors telling him to invade iran and everyone will see how smart we are we'll get to that Later, but first, let's get to this CNS news story concerning the Border Patrol agents.

00:12:00.000 Border agents' death would spark impeachment talks, Republicans say, from CNS News.

00:12:06.000 This is up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:12:09.000 Weeks after accusing President Bush of shameful behavior over the imprisonment of two Border Patrol agents who shot an unarmed, suspected drug smuggler along the U.S.-Mexico border, and again, weeks after he claimed he wasn't armed.

00:12:25.000 We don't know that.

00:12:26.000 A federal lawmaker turned up the heat further Wednesday, suggesting the president should be impeached if either of the two men is murdered in a prison.

00:12:35.000 And it's things like this that can change history and derail wars and derail tyrants.

00:12:40.000 Speaking after the Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed that Agent Ignacio Ramos was assaulted by inmates in his Mississippi prison over the weekend, California Republican Representative Dana Rohrabacher had a warning for the White House, and I quote, I tell you, Mr. President, if these men, especially after this assault, are murdered in prison, if one of them loses their lives, there's going to be

00:13:10.000 Some sort of impeachment talk in Capitol Hill.

00:13:14.000 He told a press conference in D.C.

00:13:17.000 In fact, John, I didn't tell you to do this.

00:13:19.000 It's my fault.

00:13:21.000 Go up to PrisonPlanet.com and you'll see the CNS News story.

00:13:25.000 In the bottom of the third paragraph it says listen to audio.

00:13:29.000 Let's, in a few minutes, play.

00:13:31.000 You can just stream it.

00:13:32.000 You don't have to capture it.

00:13:34.000 It won't take too much time.

00:13:35.000 Just load it and stream it.

00:13:38.000 I want to play what Rohrabacher had to say.

00:13:40.000 We're working on getting him on the show.

00:13:43.000 When Ramos and colleague Jose Campeon began their sentences of 12 and 11 years in prison, respectively, last month, Rohrabacher said of the President, for not pardoning them, this is the worst betrayal of American defenders I have ever seen.

00:14:00.000 And the message is clear.

00:14:01.000 Don't molest the drug dealers coming across, the coyotes, the human smugglers.

00:14:06.000 Let the rocket attacks on newspapers continue in Laredo, the way of Laredo.

00:14:10.000 Let the mass kidnapping of 54 Americans continue in one day, two years ago.

00:14:15.000 Let the 800 deaths in 2006 continue.

00:14:19.000 Just let the end of the tourist industry, let the car bomb that went off in Dallas continue.

00:14:24.000 Let the murder from San Antonio to Austin to Houston continue.

00:14:29.000 Again, American citizens have to show three forms of ID to get a bank account or a housing loan.

00:14:35.000 Believe me, I've gone through it.

00:14:37.000 And the illegal aliens, Associated Press, don't have to show any ID for bank accounts, car loans, or housing loans.

00:14:46.000 They get more tuition than in-state citizens, U.S.

00:14:51.000 citizens.

00:14:53.000 Again, they live by different rules.

00:14:56.000 It's designed as an incentive to maximize the number of immigrants to this nation, illegal aliens. 0.96

00:15:02.000 And we're always talking about Mexico, because that's the 100 million people to the south, 30 million of that 100 million living here.

00:15:12.000 And I've seen it at the hospital and my finger was chopped off, the illegal aliens, because the hospital knows they don't have insurance. 1.00

00:15:17.000 They've been told just give them care.

00:15:19.000 I had to show them my insurance.

00:15:21.000 They ran it.

00:15:22.000 I had to start yelling at them saying, look, this needs to be reattached and reattached now.

00:15:29.000 And I had to do something I never do, and that's pull strings.

00:15:32.000 I'm a radio talk show host.

00:15:34.000 And yes, we know who you are.

00:15:35.000 And I had to because I had to get the finger reattached.

00:15:40.000 Was flopping around by a piece of skin on one side.

00:15:45.000 And it may be because of their foot dragging that one side of my finger, I guess I could do parlor tricks with a lighter now if I wanted to, has no feeling in it.

00:15:57.000 I could show off like G. Gordon Liddy.

00:15:58.000 I'm being sarcastic and burn myself and it wouldn't really cause any pain because it's as dead as a doornail.

00:16:04.000 So, I've been in the bank, and I know I keep talking about this, but I mean, you're in the bank, setting up a bank account, the illegals have their own desk, everything's in Spanish, and they just boom, boom, boom. 0.53

00:16:14.000 That is the corporate state doing everything they can to destroy this country.

00:16:20.000 And, illegal aliens, racially, you can't even say racially, because this man's Hispanic American, but it was, they were racial, a racial group attacked him Because he had one of the toughest jobs in, as they call it, law enforcement.

00:16:41.000 Absolutely off the charts.

00:16:45.000 It is shameful this was done by someone who is a Republican Party, Robacher added, saying Bush obviously thinks more about his agreements with Mexico than the lives of American people, and backing up his defenders.

00:16:58.000 The outrage has targeted both this administration, the U.S.

00:17:01.000 Attorney Johnny Sutton, who prosecuted the two and offered an immunity deal to the suspected drug smuggler.

00:17:07.000 Suspected?

00:17:08.000 They caught him with hundreds and hundreds of pounds of marijuana.

00:17:12.000 He escaped and then claimed he didn't have a gun.

00:17:15.000 Oh yeah, a drug dealer didn't have a gun.

00:17:17.000 and I'm a Chinese jet pilot.

00:17:20.000 Mr. Davila got total immunity in return for his testimony against the agents.

00:17:30.000 Sutton has noted that the agents not only shot an unarmed man while he was fleeing towards the Mexican border, but also tried to cover up the crime by disposing of their shell casings.

00:17:41.000 No, they admitted that they shot in the report, and they're told to pick up their casings.

00:17:48.000 After a two-week trial last year, the two were convicted by a jury on 11 to 12 counts, including assault with a dangerous weapon, assault with a serious bodily injury, discharge of a firearm during the commission of a crime of violence, willfully violating the illegal immigrants' constitutional rights, lying about the incident, failing to report the truth.

00:18:06.000 And look, all I know is when the cops go crazy and it's some rookie and they shoot some black kid in the back or they shoot some Hispanic kid in the back and it's happened right here in Austin, nothing happens until lawsuits are filed and everyone goes completely nothing happens until lawsuits are filed and everyone goes completely insane.

00:18:26.000 And if the police chief does the right thing and fires the rookie female cop, then they tell him just get out of here and the police union forces out the police chief. 0.99

00:18:38.000 And you've seen the cases where, it doesn't matter, white kids, black kids, Arab kids, it doesn't matter, but it's worse for minorities, there's no doubt, get shot hundreds of times in some cases with no weapons, and the police don't get in trouble.

00:18:54.000 But in this case, the guy is fleeing, he's reckless driving, he's ramming into things, he drives into the desert, he jumps out, he's running, he turns, and that's what the ballistics show,

00:19:06.000 The officers fire, they don't even know if they've hit him, he escapes into the brush, and then two weeks later the FBI somehow contacts the drug dealer, give him immunity, and then they throw the book at the agents.

00:19:31.000 So, that message is clear.

00:19:35.000 You know, they make the Border Patrol park and they say you can look south, you can look north, you can look east, you can look west.

00:19:40.000 One direction, if they see illegals passing them, crossing the road on the other side, they're not even allowed to pursue.

00:19:47.000 The troops they put down there flee routinely from Mexican troops and drug dealers firing on them.

00:19:53.000 Cops have been killed, Border Patrol agents, we've interviewed sheriffs, we've had Mexican troops come at gunpoint and take drugs back from them.

00:19:59.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:20.000 We've got Lieutenant Luchada.

00:24:21.000 Mistrial.

00:24:22.000 Basically the prosecution wanted to drop it.

00:24:27.000 There's too much confusion I can't get no relief Welcome back.

00:24:35.000 Business man there to drink my wine We've got Lieutenant Blachata mistrial.

00:24:43.000 Basically, the prosecution wanted to drop it.

00:24:45.000 Join us for about 10, 15 minutes.

00:24:45.000 They had no case.

00:24:48.000 And I'm going to start getting into the new information on Building 7 and controlled demolition.

00:24:52.000 And Dylan Avery, who's talked to the emergency EMT worker who was there, who's put out the statement, will be joining us for about 20, 30 minutes in the second hour.

00:24:59.000 That's the great thing about films and the effect they have in the community, you just get more and more whistleblowers.

00:25:07.000 My Terror Storm, Basically had someone contact us who had been an admitted victim on the bus that blew up on 7-7.

00:25:16.000 Now eyewitness to clear government involvement.

00:25:18.000 Same thing happens with loose change, getting whistleblowers to go public.

00:25:24.000 So we'll see what develops with this.

00:25:26.000 It should be quite informative.

00:25:29.000 Let me make it clear.

00:25:30.000 I understand that globalist policies are really making the third world an untenable place to live.

00:25:36.000 I don't blame third world populations from Africa.

00:25:39.000 Asia, Eastern Europe, Central Europe, Latin America wanting to come here.

00:25:45.000 But the majority of these immigrants, these illegal immigrants, are Mexican and Mexico's had several wars with this country and does have a lot of beefs, that is the people do, with the folks that run our country. 1.00

00:25:56.000 But the same elites that run our country are the ones that have made deals with their corrupt elite And our corrupt elite has then demonized the U.S. 0.81

00:26:03.000 and is using that false nationalism of the Mexicans to aggressively come in, and many of the Mexicans coming in say it is a military takeover.

00:26:12.000 And it's simple.

00:26:13.000 You're being used as a tool of the globalist.

00:26:16.000 You are helping to destroy one of the last free bastions of liberty, and one of the last pools of middle-class wealth.

00:26:23.000 You're being used as part of the globalist military and economic program to bring down this nation.

00:26:29.000 And that's why we stand firmly against it.

00:26:33.000 We'll continue to track that as it develops.

00:26:35.000 Again, Lieutenant Wattada's lawyer, Victorious, joining us in the next segment.

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00:34:26.000 Soldier's court-martial ends in mistrial.

00:34:29.000 Associated Press, the judge overseeing the court-martial of Army Lieutenant who refused to deploy to Iraq, declared a mistrial yesterday.

00:34:37.000 Joining us from outside Fort Washington, Or a fort there in Washington, Fort Lewis, is his lawyer, Eric Seitz, and we appreciate his attorney joining us today.

00:34:50.000 Thanks for coming on.

00:34:51.000 My pleasure.

00:34:53.000 Just a thumbnail, if you can, about what happened in the trial, what they claimed he was doing, and what actually happened yesterday.

00:35:00.000 Well, he's charged with several counts of conduct unbecoming an officer for public statements he made.

00:35:07.000 In which he basically explained his position as to why he believes the war is illegal and he can't go.

00:35:12.000 And then he was charged with one count of missing movement for actually failing to get on the bus which would have taken him to the plane with his unit to deploy to Iraq.

00:35:20.000 At one point originally the charges totaled up to eight years.

00:35:24.000 Eventually it was dropped down to six years and then as at the time we started trial on Monday this week we were down to four years by virtue of an agreement that we had made with the government to drop two additional charges in return for stipulating that certain evidence would not have to be presented.

00:35:42.000 We agreed to certain facts, including the fact that he didn't get on the bus and that he did so intentionally, that he didn't make the plane, also including the fact that the statements that he made were true and correct and were accurately reported and that the contents of those statements Could be presented to the jury and we also agreed in this agreement that we had that basically that the videotapes that the government wanted to play to the jury

00:36:12.000 Could be played without having to call the people who made the video.

00:36:14.000 And that's because Lieutenant Watada, his father, and you and others just are in the right.

00:36:20.000 Bush did lie.

00:36:21.000 He was dishonest.

00:36:23.000 This war is illegal.

00:36:24.000 We have the White House memo, and I don't think the government wanted that being brought out in court.

00:36:29.000 But now we learn that in some of the procedures, they were a little dishonest with Lieutenant Watada, and that's why they claim that they're declaring this mistrial?

00:36:37.000 Well, no, that's not accurate.

00:36:40.000 Interestingly, the government and we were on the same side with respect to this stipulation.

00:36:45.000 We all agreed that what was in the stipulation was true and correct.

00:36:48.000 I understand, but what is not true?

00:36:51.000 There was nothing in the other one true.

00:36:54.000 And we are all mystified.

00:36:55.000 The government lawyer was somewhat exasperated because the judge kept saying that there was some sort of a contradiction.

00:37:01.000 Between what Lieutenant Watada and his lawyers were saying to the court and what was in the stipulation?

00:37:05.000 Well, I'm just reading the Associated Press here, but let me be clear.

00:37:08.000 There wasn't an issue over them having him sign some document without him knowing that would be used against him?

00:37:16.000 There was no such issue.

00:37:17.000 He signed the stipulation knowing full well that it was going to be read to the jury.

00:37:22.000 But then the judge brought that up.

00:37:24.000 The judge brought it up not from the standpoint that he didn't know what he was signing, But from the standpoint that he said that he thought we were arguing matters that were inconsistent with what was in the stipulation.

00:37:35.000 Okay, so the judge isn't really making sense, but if you think about the government wanting this to just go away and stop being basically a martyr or a focus point, do you think that may be why they dropped it?

00:37:46.000 No, I don't.

00:37:47.000 I think the government was not prepared to do this.

00:37:49.000 They wanted to go forward with a case in which we could not defend ourselves And they did want to make a martyr out of him.

00:37:55.000 They were going to ask for several years in prison.

00:37:57.000 So do you think the judge was secretly on the side of right, or what happened?

00:38:01.000 No, the judge was never on the side of right.

00:38:03.000 The judge made our lives miserable in that courtroom.

00:38:05.000 He ruled against us on virtually everything, and he was trying to help the government convict my client.

00:38:10.000 So then what happened?

00:38:11.000 Well, basically what happened was in three days of trial, the government called a number of witnesses who turned out to be more favorable to us than to them.

00:38:21.000 And we also had a panel of officers who seemed to be somewhat sympathetic.

00:38:26.000 So by the time we got to court yesterday, and we were preparing to put on our case... Ah, so I knew it had to be good guys involved.

00:38:32.000 So the panel, they're on the court-martial, but the presiding judge, I guess, was then realizing that he was going to lose this, so then he just kind of took his marbles and went home?

00:38:42.000 I think that's, in part, what happened here.

00:38:44.000 Well, good!

00:38:46.000 So what happened then, eventually, is we were getting ready to put Lieutenant Wakata on the witness stand, The judge raised these issues, which we think were just totally off the wall, and the government felt so as well.

00:38:56.000 We kept trying to ask the judge what he was talking about.

00:38:59.000 He really couldn't explain himself.

00:39:01.000 And he eventually set aside the stipulation, but the problem at that point was that it had already been read to the court members and the videotapes had already been shown.

00:39:09.000 So then he asked the government what they wanted to do, and the government at that point, probably because of inexperience, made a fatal error.

00:39:17.000 They moved for a mistrial.

00:39:20.000 And if we had moved for a mistrial, that's tantamount to consenting to a retrial.

00:39:24.000 But if the government does so, over our objections, after the trial has already begun, he cannot be retried again.

00:39:31.000 How many officers were convened for the court-martial?

00:39:33.000 Were they JAG officers?

00:39:35.000 And what indicators did you get that they were favorable towards Lt.

00:39:38.000 Wattadam?

00:39:39.000 No, none of them were JAG officers.

00:39:40.000 They were basically line officers that, uh, and there were seven of them on the court-martial panel, like the military jury.

00:39:48.000 But it also consisted of two women, there were three blacks, there were a number of junior officers, there was one clinical psychologist who treats trauma victims coming back from Iraq.

00:39:59.000 These were people who, in the answers to the questions that I asked them at the beginning of the trial, seemed to be very forthright, very sympathetic, Well, I think they did fail.

00:40:09.000 issues that we wanted to raise.

00:40:10.000 And I guess the prosecution, because the bulk 70-plus percent of the troops know the war is a fraud, I bet they had a lot of trouble trying to fix the jury.

00:40:17.000 It looks like they failed.

00:40:18.000 Well, I think they did fail.

00:40:20.000 We had what I thought was a very sympathetic jury, which is why we would not have minded going forward and finishing this case and why we objected to a mistrial.

00:40:29.000 Well isn't this what the jury process, one of the final lines of defense against tyranny, and the grand jury process is all about?

00:40:35.000 Because it's drawn, supposedly, from the general population and your peers, and if you're in the right, then it's going to be hard for tyrannical judges or tyrannical officers above to persecute people.

00:40:50.000 That's the theory, but it doesn't often work in the military courts because the court members are hand-selected by the same person who refers the charges.

00:40:58.000 But I have had several experiences going back many years where military panels have turned out to be very sympathetic and very thoughtful and we were very optimistic about this group of people.

00:41:09.000 I think that's why with the Military Commissions Act they're going to use even on U.S.

00:41:12.000 citizens that the President or any of his designates, the Secretary of Defense or any other officer below him, can disregard the findings of the secret tribunals.

00:41:24.000 Because they know that even in secret tribunals they're having trouble hand-picking folks because the government, and I've tested this, and I've done many interviews and had people on my own show and talked to the public and talked to a lot of officers here in Central Texas with all these bases around, They seem to all know this war is a fraud and a scam and a lie.

00:41:41.000 A very small minority now clinging to the fraud.

00:41:45.000 So I think that the government is going to have a big problem.

00:41:47.000 I think the government does have a problem and in this case really what was going on here was you had an officer who was very sincere, very conscientious, very courageous, even people who disagreed with him had enormous respect for him.

00:42:01.000 One of the problems with the government witnesses was when they got up on the witness stand they said yes he was a quality officer Who was very sincere and had integrity.

00:42:08.000 Those kinds of statements coming from government witnesses created a very difficult situation for them to try the case.

00:42:15.000 And then what they were trying to do was charging him with making public statements that they didn't like, but then they were trying to keep out all the evidence as to why he made those statements and what they meant.

00:42:24.000 So there were a whole series of contradictions in this trial that made it virtually impossible for the government to be successful.

00:42:31.000 Well, it sounds like the jury came through.

00:42:34.000 Did the judge seem upset whenever they said we moved for a mistrial?

00:42:37.000 No, the judge basically invited the mistrial and then over our objections granted it.

00:42:42.000 And I don't think either government counsel or the judge really understood that the procedure that was followed now gives rise to a very serious double jeopardy problem.

00:42:53.000 I just don't think they understood that.

00:42:55.000 I think they thought that they could dismiss this case and retry it And it would be like, you know, an easy process, but... Can they retry it now, or is it dead?

00:43:03.000 My belief is they cannot be retried.

00:43:05.000 Now, that doesn't mean, you know, that we will put it past them to try, but it's going to be an uphill battle for them.

00:43:11.000 If they bring the case back, we will file a motion to dismiss it on double jeopardy grounds.

00:43:16.000 Before the case goes to trial, we will appeal that issue if it's denied, and we believe that ultimately we will prevail on that issue.

00:43:23.000 Now obviously Aaron Watata doesn't want to make any public statements or even say he's going to make public statements until he's been discharged, but once that happens he will be then again free to speak?

00:43:34.000 One would hope so, but one never knows these days.

00:43:39.000 Any ballpark on how long until he can be discharged or how long until you know that he's clearly out of the woods?

00:43:44.000 Well we're wheeling and dealing now, we're making various proposals to the Army in the hope that they will understand the quagmire that they're in at this particular point.

00:43:52.000 I don't know if they will understand because all of our overtures over the past year or so have been rejected.

00:43:58.000 So we'll see what happens.

00:44:00.000 If we can get him out of there as soon as possible, that's what we want to do.

00:44:03.000 But it may drag on for a while.

00:44:05.000 And of course, meantime, he's already two or three months past his obligated term of service.

00:44:10.000 So I don't even think they have, potentially, they have jurisdiction over him any longer anyway.

00:44:15.000 Was his father, Robert Wattata, pleased?

00:44:19.000 Was Aaron Wattata, Lieutenant Aaron Wattata, was he buoyed?

00:44:23.000 What was his response when the mistrial took place?

00:44:26.000 Well, as far as Aaron was concerned, Aaron had been up most of the night preparing to testify on Wednesday, so he was very tired and very tense because he was expected to spend the day on the witness stand.

00:44:39.000 And I think probably was a little bewildered by the proceedings that unfolded, as were most of the people in the courtroom.

00:44:45.000 As I said, including the judge and the prosecutor.

00:44:47.000 I've had that happen to me before.

00:44:48.000 You're expecting something bad to happen, something you've got to go through, and then when you win, before it even happens, you're almost let down.

00:44:55.000 Didn't even realize what the consequences were.

00:44:55.000 Right.

00:44:57.000 But once we explained to Aaron essentially what the significance was, he certainly is as elated as we are and as optimistic that we can end this matter now and he can go on with the rest of his life.

00:45:08.000 Well hopefully as soon as he's discharged we can have you and his father and of course Aaron himself on the show.

00:45:14.000 Our prayers go with him and you and his father and the family and we appreciate you putting on such a brilliant defense and we appreciate the jury having a soul and vetoing this stage of the tyranny.

00:45:28.000 If they try to bring up a new trial as you said when the prosecution, when the government moves For that, it's really hard to bring it back, but I wouldn't put anything past them, but it looks like it'll even be harder for them now, and even if they were able to get a new trial and get a conviction, then wouldn't that be utterly destroyed in some type of appeal?

00:45:49.000 That's my belief, yes.

00:45:51.000 All right, well, Attorney Eric Seitz, thank you so much for joining us from Washington State.

00:45:57.000 Thank you.

00:45:58.000 Take care.

00:46:00.000 Well, that turned out well, didn't it?

00:46:02.000 Thank you, Jesus.

00:46:04.000 Very excited to see that happen.

00:46:07.000 Shifting gears now, round zero EMT.

00:46:11.000 We were told building seven was to be pulled.

00:46:15.000 Now, my gut tells me this source is good.

00:46:20.000 Dylan Avery thinks it's a good source.

00:46:21.000 He's talked to him over the phone several times and by email many times.

00:46:26.000 They're trying, of course, to wrangle a video interview for him with, I guess, for the final cut of Loose Change.

00:46:35.000 Boy, that's really exciting to be on the inside of that a little bit.

00:46:38.000 I'm not going to say anything.

00:46:41.000 But you'll hear about it in due time.

00:46:43.000 I mean, what do I say about this?

00:46:47.000 You know, even if this isn't real, even if this is some type of disinfo bomb, Even if this is some kind of honeypot, which I don't think it is, but we always look at everything like it could be, it doesn't really matter.

00:47:01.000 Because we have in quadruplicate upon quadruplicate that firefighters, fire captains, people who were in the wreckage of those buildings saw giant pools of molten Steel that had to be above 2700 degrees.

00:47:22.000 It doesn't start melting till 2700.

00:47:24.000 When it is liquefied, it's as high as 3500 degrees.

00:47:30.000 Running like water down the channel rails.

00:47:33.000 Like a foundry.

00:47:34.000 For those who don't know what a foundry is, it's a steel mill.

00:47:38.000 It's the big smelting furnaces.

00:47:43.000 And we have the aerial photography five weeks later with 2,700 degree temperatures, two weeks after 3,100 degree temperatures.

00:47:53.000 These are NASA photos, these are university photos, these are indisputable.

00:48:00.000 Then we have local NPR, and I've probably talked to 50 people who heard NPR.

00:48:04.000 They've never given us the tape.

00:48:05.000 New York NPR, you know it's going to surface when they said in the afternoon, one hour before it collapsed, they may bring down Building 7 not to damage nearby buildings.

00:48:15.000 Many firefighters I've talked to at Ground Zero this year wouldn't go on tape, but they said, oh yeah, they said they were going to bring it down hours before.

00:48:21.000 Giuliani slipped up on ABC News that evening.

00:48:27.000 And said we were told to get out of building seven that morning that it was going to come down.

00:48:31.000 Giuliani, the day before, had moved the city, the state, and the federal emergency management command base, quote, the bunker, out of the building.

00:48:42.000 The entire building was a giant spook compound with Defense Intelligence, CIA, NSA, emergency management, FBI, Securities and Exchange Commission.

00:48:54.000 I mean, it went I mean, I've never seen a quote private building where every floor is just riddled with spooks.

00:49:05.000 With tripod 2, a drill, they pulled out of the building the day before and moved it to the end of the pier with mobile emergency command centers.

00:49:14.000 who were drilling for a slash bio slash conventional bomb attack on building seven tower one and two.

00:49:22.000 Boy, that was convenient to have the management command center on the building!

00:49:30.000 So they had everybody out of there by 10 a.m.

00:49:32.000 then fires magically start Burned on several of the floors, small contained fires.

00:49:38.000 Then, at a little past five o'clock, the penthouse falls perfectly in on itself.

00:49:44.000 That's a controlled, classical demolition.

00:49:46.000 You blow the central column, so when you blow the outer columns, it falls in on itself.

00:49:50.000 I've interviewed engineers the day it happened, and many after it happened, people who were eyewitnesses to it happening, who were there physically, saying it was the most beautiful, controlled demolition they had ever seen.

00:50:05.000 By the way, we haven't opened the phones up yet.

00:50:08.000 I have been told that this individual, this EMT, is a listener of the show.

00:50:14.000 I suggest you go public.

00:50:15.000 You're in a dangerous position.

00:50:16.000 I suggest you come on today.

00:50:18.000 I know Dylan's trying to get in contact.

00:50:19.000 I just found out about this in contact with Dylan this morning.

00:50:21.000 He's coming on in 10 minutes.

00:50:23.000 I suggest you call in 1-800-259-9231 right now, and then you just go ahead and get on air.

00:50:32.000 But we'll go over this.

00:50:35.000 We'll play clips to bring this up to remind you to recap, and then we'll go through this with Dylan Avery coming up in the next hour.

00:50:43.000 And then we'll open the phones up, and then we do have that guest that we cancelled yesterday concerning being set up on an airplane.

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00:54:32.000 Welcome back.

00:54:49.000 Let me just get into this report, then we'll get Dylan on, then we'll play some of the clips in the next hour.

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00:55:00.000 Paul Watson with a detailed report.

00:55:01.000 This story's big.

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00:55:05.000 Ground Zero EMT.

00:55:07.000 We were told building 7 was going to be pulled.

00:55:12.000 Now, I've already gotten my film, Firefighters and Emergency Workers, from 2004.

00:55:17.000 Martial law that I made in 2005 saying we were told to get out of the building, we were told to get out of the air, that it was going to come down.

00:55:24.000 So, I mean, we already have people, but they're always, I don't want to get by name, I'm scared.

00:55:29.000 I mean, I had so many firefighters and police in uniform.

00:55:32.000 I'd be like bullhorning, and the cops would be like, keep it up, Alex, like the show.

00:55:36.000 I mean, police captains.

00:55:37.000 I got a lot of it on video.

00:55:40.000 I'd have cameras aimed at them, and I'd be like, you know, it's an inside job, you know, they blew it up, and they're like, yep, we know, keep it up.

00:55:49.000 I'd say 70% of the cops were on our side and 99% of the firemen.

00:55:53.000 There was one fireman who flipped us off from New Jersey.

00:55:58.000 I mean, it was incredible.

00:55:59.000 You ought to go up there and experience it for yourself.

00:56:03.000 You ought to really experience it for yourself.

00:56:07.000 I mean, then you know polls like the Angus and Reed scientific poll of 84% believing they're being lied to about 9-11.

00:56:14.000 You know those numbers are accurate when you experience it for yourself.

00:56:19.000 The illusion.

00:56:20.000 The only illusion that is there is that everybody isn't awake and doesn't know.

00:56:26.000 See, we all feel like we're still alone.

00:56:29.000 We all still feel like we're the only people that know this.

00:56:32.000 No, it's because you haven't talked to people yet. 1.00

00:56:34.000 And there are still some idiots out there. 1.00

00:56:38.000 Ground Zero EMT. 1.00

00:56:39.000 We were told building 7 was to be pulled.

00:56:43.000 New Jersey Emergency Medical Technician asked, how could someone have rigged all these explosives before towers collapsed, support columns had been blown out?

00:56:52.000 A New Jersey EMT has gone public, and by the way, they've done internet email traces.

00:56:58.000 He is in New Jersey, is where he says he's at.

00:57:02.000 A New Jersey EMT has gone public on how emergency workers were told that Building 7 was going to be pulled before a 20-second demolition countdown broadcast over radio preceded its collapse.

00:57:11.000 The Ground Zero rescue worker also blows the whistle on how he witnessed multiple underground support columns of the WTC towers that had been severed before the buildings imploded.

00:57:21.000 In a letter to the Loose Change producer, Dylan Avery, the individual who wishes to remain anonymous, referred to himself only as Mike, 30, New Jersey, describes how he was repeatedly tried to alert numerous authorities to what he saw on 9-11 but was ignored or told to shut up on one occasion and ultimately fired for disorderly conduct.

00:57:43.000 The EMT now dismisses the official government explanation of events and slams the 9-11 Commission as a whitewash.

00:57:51.000 Having been in his profession for six years, the individual states that he was at Ground Zero before, during, and after the collapse.

00:57:57.000 He was forced to flee from the falling towers and take cover under a bus, sheltered as debris rained down around him, leaving his lungs poisoned today with the toxic dust that 9-11 heroes were exposed to as a result of the cover-up on behalf of Conner Lisa Rice, the EPA that assured workers Ground Zero air was safe to breathe.

00:58:15.000 Then he goes through what he witnessed, what he saw.

00:58:16.000 We'll walk through this with Dylan Avery.

00:58:20.000 And this guy has nothing to lose.

00:58:21.000 It's called freedom.

00:58:24.000 But he is in danger while he's not public.

00:58:28.000 He is in danger.

00:58:30.000 Believe me, they have ways of finding out who you are.

00:58:32.000 They probably already know.

00:58:35.000 And you need to go public ASAP.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:41.000 Order a copy of this show for your friends and family at GCNlive.com or call 877-300-7645.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 You know, really important things have now happened considering, uh, The success of Loose Change 2nd Edition that we do have available on DVD at InfoWars.com.

00:59:27.000 Have the original directly from the source.

00:59:30.000 Get it at InfoWars.com.

00:59:34.000 And just I have been honored enough and lucky enough and blessed enough to be let's just say in the catbird seat to be able to see a lot of the stuff behind the scenes going on with the final cut.

00:59:45.000 It's just going to be so big folks and I don't have him on to talk about that today but maybe we'll spend a few minutes on it later as much as he can tell us.

00:59:52.000 It's terrible to know all this stuff and not be able to share it with you, but we want to keep it quiet until things totally flesh out.

01:00:01.000 But that's not why Dylan Avery joins us.

01:00:02.000 He joined us a few weeks ago with an update on where the final cut of Loose Change 2nd Edition, the international phenomenon and the beacon of the truth that's woken up tens of millions and opened up so many doors in my fight.

01:00:14.000 Again, I believe a rising tide raises all ships and my work feeds into theirs, their work feeds into mine.

01:00:19.000 I just love it. 0.99

01:00:20.000 To all the scum jealous of Dylan Avery and Jason Burmiss and Corey Rowe, Shame on you! 0.99

01:00:26.000 We're fighting tooth and nail to literally save our civilization from the clutches of the dehumanizing New World Order slave grid. 0.99

01:00:34.000 And we just all need to get Loose Change 2nd Edition out to everybody.

01:00:37.000 We need to get Terror Storm out to everybody.

01:00:38.000 We need to aggressively do it.

01:00:40.000 And for all of you that have been selflessly getting it out, I salute you and commend you.

01:00:44.000 And for the 30,000 plus free DVDs Loose Change has handed out, I salute them.

01:00:48.000 Alright, we're going to break here in just a moment, but Dylan, I've got a bunch of clips backing up what this guy is saying.

01:00:54.000 It's already proven that there were bombs in the buildings and thermate, something melting, giant steel columns.

01:01:00.000 We're going to go through all that.

01:01:01.000 But if this flushes out, and you've talked to him via email, and it looks pretty credible, this is just another witness.

01:01:07.000 There's quite a few already, and we're going to play some of those witnesses.

01:01:11.000 But this is still big, and we've got a story up on PrisonPlanet.com.

01:01:16.000 Give us your take on it.

01:01:18.000 Well, you know, Alex, it'd be one thing if somebody just kind of emailed me out of nowhere and was like, I was an EMT.

01:01:23.000 I was there.

01:01:24.000 I think it was a controlled demolition.

01:01:26.000 I just want to thank you.

01:01:27.000 And didn't give me any personal details whatsoever.

01:01:29.000 Then, yeah, I'd be skeptical.

01:01:30.000 But, I mean, I got this email.

01:01:32.000 He gave me his name, his age, his location.

01:01:34.000 I mean, he went into all this background information.

01:01:37.000 And when I first posted it, I redacted his personal information.

01:01:40.000 Uh, just because I didn't want anyone causing trouble for him.

01:01:43.000 And, uh, when I posted that, people thought it was fake.

01:01:45.000 They're like, oh, you know, Dylan wrote this letter himself.

01:01:47.000 He should be ashamed of himself.

01:01:48.000 Yada, yada, yada.

01:01:50.000 So, um, I then got a reply back from Mike and he was like, oh, you can put the Mike 30 New Jersey out there.

01:01:55.000 It's anonymous enough.

01:01:55.000 I don't care.

01:01:56.000 So then after I posted that Mike's second letter to me, now they're saying that he's a liar.

01:02:01.000 So he went from a person that never existed to a person that's lying.

01:02:05.000 I mean, that is, that is how low these people are.

01:02:06.000 But I mean, in martial law, I have people going, oh yeah, you know, I was working here as an EMT on that way, and the cops said, get back, they're bringing down seven.

01:02:16.000 I mean, we got all these newscasts, and all these firefighter tapes, and all this video, there's a bunch of them saying it.

01:02:21.000 I mean, this is just one more, and again, they're really going to look bad when he goes public.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:02:28.000 Or, you know, when anyone like him goes public, I mean, they'll go to such ridiculous lengths to discredit people just because it doesn't agree with what they say.

01:02:35.000 Well, I mean, you were there at Ground Zero.

01:02:37.000 I was there with you guys with the silent march and all of it and the bullhorning.

01:02:40.000 I mean, we couldn't do our work because the firefighters were slapping us on the back.

01:02:45.000 I mean, my back literally got sore.

01:02:47.000 Yeah, we got actually footage right when we showed up at Ground Zero that morning.

01:02:52.000 There was, I believe it was an ambulance that was just right on the street next to the sidewalk and they were like, hey, can we get some shirts for you guys?

01:03:00.000 There was like three or four Firefighters and they all wanted like sweatshirts and stuff.

01:03:04.000 And they were like, oh, you know, we're big fans.

01:03:04.000 It was really cool.

01:03:06.000 We can't really talk about it.

01:03:07.000 You know, because they were in uniform.

01:03:08.000 I felt bad because everywhere the firefighters recognized me.

01:03:12.000 I couldn't go in a restaurant because they were all down there, you know, for the remembrance.

01:03:15.000 I couldn't even do interviews because, hey, man, I want to tell you, you're right about this.

01:03:19.000 Hey, guys, I love you.

01:03:20.000 Thank you.

01:03:21.000 I got to move on.

01:03:22.000 Will you say it on tape?

01:03:23.000 We're scared.

01:03:23.000 No, no, no.

01:03:24.000 It's incredible, isn't it Dylan?

01:03:26.000 Yeah, it's really incredible.

01:03:27.000 But, you know, you got to you got to sympathize with these people because they got families to protect.

01:03:31.000 Well, as more and more of them go public, it's going to be a chain reaction.

01:03:34.000 I wonder what the government will do with that when you've got thousands of them.

01:03:37.000 I mean, they're in so much trouble.

01:03:39.000 Globalists, you bit off more than you can chew. 1.00

01:03:41.000 Stay there, Dylan Avery.

01:03:42.000 We'll break it down, play some clips, and talk about the final cut.

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01:06:50.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

01:07:18.000 It is Thursday, the eighth day of February, 2007.

01:07:22.000 And we've got about an hour and 51 minutes left in this transmission.

01:07:28.000 There's so much to cover with Dylan Avery, the man who first made Loose Change First Edition.

01:07:34.000 Teamed up then with Corey Rowe and of course Jason Burmisson made the second cut.

01:07:37.000 Final cut coming soon.

01:07:40.000 Headline, Ground Zero EMT.

01:07:41.000 We were told Building 7 was to be pulled.

01:07:45.000 And he goes through just amazing information.

01:07:48.000 We're going to read through some of that.

01:07:50.000 But Dylan, and now you've talked to him via email several times, and he's given you his full info, but he doesn't want to totally go public yet, but he may soon.

01:07:59.000 But he just backs up what so many others, firemen and EMT and police and others, are saying.

01:08:04.000 Before I read through it, break down some of what he's going public with, what he saw.

01:08:07.000 Well, he's going public with a lot of things that we've already heard about.

01:08:12.000 He talks about how he was inside one of the buildings, And, uh, saw, you know, chunks of the support columns blown out, um, all kinds of different things.

01:08:20.000 Uh, basically how they were thinking of themselves when they were inside the building, how could they have wired this with explosives, et cetera, et cetera.

01:08:27.000 Um, yeah, it's, it was just a really interesting email, and just after, I mean, and then also he goes through all the things that he went through after the fact.

01:08:34.000 I mean, the fact that he got charged for the damage to his suit, you know, things like that.

01:08:40.000 Let me read some of his testimony.

01:08:42.000 There were explosives, there were flashes, there was molten metal running down the I-beams of the basement levels like lava flows.

01:08:49.000 I've never seen anything like it.

01:08:50.000 Yes, planes hit the buildings. 1.00

01:08:52.000 Anybody who says otherwise is a moron. 0.99

01:08:53.000 But the explosions, the rapid, symmetrical, sequential explosions, they happened, states Mike. 0.99

01:08:58.000 He explains how he and others were in the basement of one of the towers helping injured victims when he saw one of the huge steel and concrete support pillars with an eight-foot section blown out of the center of it.

01:09:10.000 Looking around, Mike saw other support columns that were in the same condition, prompting rescue personnel to ask, how could someone have rigged all these explosions?

01:09:19.000 We stood outside listening to the explosions, states Mike, one after the other, every minute or so.

01:09:25.000 At one point, about 10 minutes before the first collapse, a 30-foot or so section of the courtyard exploded straight up in the air.

01:09:32.000 And that's what everybody reported.

01:09:33.000 The newscast, you can hear the explosions going off.

01:09:36.000 Just before the collapse, a series of deep, below-ground explosions, then numerous explosions, that's what the janitor has said, the chief janitor has said, William Rodriguez, continuing, then numerous explosions in the building's upper floors, then we ran.

01:09:52.000 We felt the same deep explosions before the second collapse.

01:09:55.000 This was not just the planes.

01:09:57.000 The rescue worker concludes emphatically, the buildings were rigged, there is no question about it.

01:10:02.000 And it goes on and on.

01:10:03.000 Dylan, let's play some clips.

01:10:05.000 I want to get your take on them.

01:10:06.000 Here, of course, is New York Fireman on television saying that it was like a foundry, like a volcano, molten steel running down the channel rails.

01:10:15.000 Here it is.

01:10:16.000 You'd get down below and you'd see molten steel.

01:10:20.000 Molten steel running down the channel rails.

01:10:22.000 Like you're in a foundry.

01:10:25.000 Like Bob.

01:10:26.000 Like Bob in a volcano.

01:10:30.000 There's one clip, and then of course we have another ABC clip that's up on our WTC7 section.

01:10:36.000 He said it on ABC Nightly News, Giuliani said we were told to get out of Building 7 that it was going to be coming down.

01:10:43.000 Your take on that clip of the firefighters talking about the molten steel.

01:10:47.000 How does jet fuel at 1,800 degrees that won't even melt people in the gashes begging for help shatter four foot around steel reinforced beams?

01:10:56.000 Well, not only that, but you would think that a majority of the fuel and the molten material would have dissipated during the collapse, and yet there was somehow this molten material that was found at some point exceeding 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, and the fires weren't actually extinguished until December 13, 2001.

01:11:11.000 And, you know, again, they were constantly pouring fires on both the rubble from the Twin Towers and Building 7, and the fires were still stubborn.

01:11:19.000 I mean, you really have to think about that.

01:11:22.000 Well, huge pool.

01:11:23.000 Some of them almost were at 3,000.

01:11:25.000 But, I mean, this is off the charts.

01:11:27.000 And then we have the video of molten steel pouring out of the buildings.

01:11:34.000 Yeah, well, it might not be molten steel.

01:11:35.000 It might be molten metal of some kind.

01:11:37.000 But, I'm just saying, Steven Jones has made that clarification.

01:11:39.000 I gotta repeat on that.

01:11:40.000 Sure, well, he said because of the color, it looks like steel.

01:11:44.000 It doesn't look like aluminum or other metals.

01:11:46.000 Oh, it's certainly not aluminum from the planes.

01:11:48.000 I mean, that's definitely not true.

01:11:51.000 It's amazing.

01:11:52.000 Let's play Silverstein saying that they gave the order to pull the building.

01:11:56.000 This is from a PBS documentary, America Rebuilds.

01:11:59.000 Here it is.

01:12:00.000 I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.

01:12:06.000 I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.

01:12:10.000 Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.

01:12:14.000 And they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building.

01:12:19.000 No.

01:12:20.000 Bullet is the demolition term for bringing down a building.

01:12:23.000 In the same documentary, they talk about a month later destroying the remnants of 5 and 6 and other structures.

01:12:31.000 And it shows them, because the superstructures were all still there, just that they've been burned out husk.

01:12:36.000 and it shows them with a controlled demolition and with big cables pulling it one direction, and that is, in the same film, a few minutes later, they say pull it means destroy it, and they say we're getting ready to pull the building, and it shows them pulling it.

01:12:50.000 Let's play that clip.

01:12:51.000 By mid-December, the Department of Design and Construction had leveled World Trade Center buildings 4 and 5.

01:12:58.000 Hello?

01:13:01.000 Oh, we're getting ready to pull Building 6.

01:13:05.000 Thank you.

01:13:08.000 We have to be very careful how we demolish Building 6.

01:13:12.000 We worry about the Building 6 coming down and then damaging the story wall, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area.

01:13:21.000 So there they are saying they demolished it.

01:13:24.000 We're getting ready to pull it.

01:13:25.000 Shows video of them destroying the building.

01:13:27.000 Building 6.

01:13:28.000 Then shows the chief engineer of the demolition project saying we demolished it.

01:13:33.000 I mean, there's no debate what pull it means, Dylan.

01:13:36.000 Yeah.

01:13:37.000 Well, I mean, it's definitely an issue that's been torn apart by both sides.

01:13:39.000 There's definitely no dispute about that.

01:13:41.000 You know, there are some people that say that he was referring to the contingency of firefighters inside the building.

01:13:46.000 Uh, you know, my problem with that is... The firefighters have been out all day!

01:13:49.000 Oh, I know, but let me finish.

01:13:51.000 The problem is, as far as I know, we don't have a time frame on when Silverstein said, pull it, do we?

01:13:58.000 Do we have an actual time on when Silverstein uttered those words to the fire commander?

01:14:02.000 No, he doesn't.

01:14:03.000 He doesn't tell us.

01:14:04.000 He doesn't specify, so we have no way of knowing.

01:14:04.000 Exactly.

01:14:06.000 But he makes it seem like it was at 520 because he was like... Well, he said we gave the order and watched it come down.

01:14:12.000 Exactly.

01:14:12.000 So he infers that the two actions happened one after another.

01:14:15.000 We made the decision to pull and watched the building collapse.

01:14:18.000 So that would mean...

01:14:19.000 But then the government-funded debunkers come out and say, you know, Pullit doesn't mean that.

01:14:25.000 It's clear in the film, in triplicate, what they're saying.

01:14:29.000 Well, regardless of PULIT, the fact is, Chief General Nigro had set up a collapse zone at 3 p.m.

01:14:33.000 So if he had set up a collapse zone at 3 p.m., why was anybody inside the building at 520?

01:14:38.000 No one was in there but one Secret Service agent who mysteriously died.

01:14:42.000 And of course, in the federal reports, they said no one died.

01:14:44.000 They later had to change that.

01:14:45.000 But they had pulled firefighters out in the early morning.

01:14:48.000 There were not firefighters in the building, so how could he give the order to pull the firefighters?

01:14:52.000 He says, we gave the order and watched the building come down.

01:14:56.000 Exactly.

01:14:57.000 So, I mean, it's clear English.

01:15:00.000 But, I mean, how are they going to argue with firefighters on tape and others saying, you know, I've got them on... I was an EMT and the police said, get back, the building's going to come down.

01:15:09.000 Well, they're obviously all liars and they have an agenda.

01:15:13.000 Come on, Alex. 0.98

01:15:17.000 Well, I mean, why was Giuliani running a drill?

01:15:20.000 Sure, running tripod two.

01:15:24.000 Where they had their command center out of the building the day before.

01:15:27.000 And then they tried to lie about it.

01:15:29.000 FEMA director, the local FEMA director, went on ABC and said, yeah, we were there the night before for a terror drill and already gotten out.

01:15:37.000 Then he said, oh no, I messed that up.

01:15:39.000 But then Giuliani testifies and said, no, we were having a drill and we're out of the building.

01:15:43.000 And it seems like stories are always changing.

01:15:43.000 Yep.

01:15:46.000 Well, and also, NIST has given five different reasons the building fell, and now they've had to admit it could have been some type of explosions.

01:15:53.000 Mm-hmm.

01:15:54.000 I know you're going to be talking to this individual soon.

01:16:00.000 We need to, I mean, you certainly agree with me that it's safer for him to go public now than to remain in the shadows with the fact that he is a witness to this.

01:16:09.000 Yeah.

01:16:10.000 Like I told you, Alex, I will do my best.

01:16:14.000 When did you first start speaking to him via email?

01:16:17.000 I think yesterday.

01:16:20.000 Pretty sure I got the email yesterday morning.

01:16:23.000 And it's already blown up everywhere.

01:16:24.000 Yeah, and people are already saying it's fake and that he doesn't exist.

01:16:28.000 You know, people say whatever they want.

01:16:30.000 But, you know, the fact is, as far as I can tell, he's legitimate.

01:16:33.000 Well, my point is, even if it's not, that's exactly the type of thing, I don't think it is, but that's the exact thing the feds would do, would put out some fake witness because you've got all these other witnesses, firefighters and police and others, saying it.

01:16:47.000 Mm-hmm.

01:16:49.000 It's amazing.

01:16:51.000 Are you surprised at how big the story got just in a few hours?

01:16:55.000 Um, not really.

01:16:57.000 I'm not really surprised people reposted it and I'm not really surprised about the response either.

01:17:01.000 But, um, you know, it'll be even bigger if we actually get him to go public.

01:17:04.000 But, you know, like I said, I can't blame the guy for being secretive.

01:17:08.000 Especially what he's already had to go through with his higher-ups.

01:17:11.000 Tell folks about the weekend show, Louder Than Words, your production company's doing.

01:17:16.000 Well, you know, it's 10 a.m.

01:17:18.000 every Saturday, Eastern Time.

01:17:20.000 Uh, it's Burmese's show and I'm usually co-hosting it with him.

01:17:23.000 Uh, sometimes he has guests on.

01:17:25.000 And, uh, you know, it's pretty much just another radio show, man.

01:17:27.000 It's just us doing our thing.

01:17:30.000 And, you know, people call in.

01:17:31.000 Uh, the haters mostly don't call in.

01:17:34.000 And, uh, we have a good time.

01:17:37.000 Well, the haters are getting more and more desperate.

01:17:39.000 I mean, look at the poll numbers.

01:17:40.000 Look at the American people waking up, and now it's come out that British intelligence has been caught training the Iraqi insurgents to carry out terror attacks.

01:17:47.000 They've caught MI6 armed forces, SAS, dressed up like Arabs, running around shooting people with bombs, posing as Arabs. 0.96

01:17:56.000 I mean, I had a guy that was on the bus on last week confirmed with them shepherding the bus in and then having operatives around it when it blew up.

01:18:04.000 I mean, they're in trouble.

01:18:05.000 Yeah, I agree with you, Alex.

01:18:08.000 It's really only a matter of time at this point, you know, at least that's what I hope.

01:18:13.000 Absolutely.

01:18:14.000 Well, I mean, there's no doubt that some of the people that spend their time attacking you and myself and others are gotta be on the payroll.

01:18:22.000 Well, I wouldn't say that.

01:18:23.000 You know, speaking personally, I'm pretty hesitant to point the agent's finger at anybody, but, you know, the way with which some people go about this, yeah, you know, some people, it would make sense if they are making money doing it.

01:18:36.000 Stay there.

01:18:37.000 Let's do one more segment, Dylan.

01:18:38.000 I want to talk about the final cut, as much as you can, on the other side, and when we might be seeing that in movie theaters and on DVD on store shelves across the country.

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01:23:06.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

01:23:10.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:23:11.000 Dylan Avery is with us for one more segment.

01:23:14.000 Dylan, let's shift gears into... I'm not even going to say anything because I know all about it.

01:23:20.000 I've been blessed to be involved a little bit on the inside of it.

01:23:24.000 I don't know how much you want to say about the final cut and some of the exciting developments, but tell us whatever you can.

01:23:33.000 It's going to be huge.

01:23:35.000 That's all I can tell you, Alex.

01:23:37.000 Trust me, I'd love to sit here and give things away, but I just can't.

01:23:41.000 All I can tell you guys is that things are looking great from all parties that are involved.

01:23:48.000 Everyone's excited.

01:23:49.000 Everyone's thumbs up.

01:23:50.000 Everyone's excited to get on board.

01:23:51.000 Everybody's happy with the way things are working out.

01:23:54.000 We've got a very good percentage going to charity.

01:23:57.000 I don't want to give a number, but we've definitely got a good number going to it.

01:24:01.000 My people are probably listening to this show right now, so I don't want to get in trouble later today.

01:24:06.000 But, um, things are definitely looking out good, man.

01:24:09.000 They're looking really good as far as we can tell.

01:24:11.000 Everything is 100% go.

01:24:13.000 Um, as it's probably public knowledge by this point, uh, David Ray Griffin is, uh, basically, he's not writing the script with us, but he's definitely contributed a very, very substantial portion of it.

01:24:24.000 He's vetting and contributing and is a consultant.

01:24:27.000 Yeah, it's like we write a draft of the script, we send it to him, he fires back with all his comments, and then we send him another draft in like two weeks.

01:24:27.000 Exactly.

01:24:33.000 And, I'm sorry, little horse, The script has come such a long way, man.

01:24:38.000 In like the two and three months that we started working on it, it went from this really rough skeleton to now it just covers everything.

01:24:45.000 It covers everything, and it does it so well.

01:24:47.000 I'm really proud of how it's turning out.

01:24:50.000 Well, I'm excited, and I definitely want to carry it as soon as it is out on DVD, but let's not get into that, how it's going to hit the theaters and everything else, but any ballpark time frame for people?

01:25:03.000 Well, I want to have a rough cut done by March because, well, we all want to have a rough cut somewhat done by March so we can submit it to Khan.

01:25:10.000 But, you know, that's just one of those things where if it happens, it happens.

01:25:15.000 We also don't want to have to compete with Spider-Man 3.

01:25:18.000 No one wants to do that.

01:25:19.000 So, you know, we want to get out as soon as possible.

01:25:22.000 It's not even about competing with anything.

01:25:23.000 We want to get it done.

01:25:24.000 And we want to get it out to the people as soon as possible so we can get the ball rolling and let people know what's really going on.

01:25:30.000 Well, this has got big backers.

01:25:32.000 It's big time.

01:25:33.000 And some of the people involved, it's just really, really exciting.

01:25:36.000 And I just want to tell you guys that I'm glad that I've been here watching your development and watching all the success in the fight against the New World Order.

01:25:46.000 The story of Louder Than Words Productions and what you guys have done is a testament To the, you know, guerrilla, revolutionary spirit of the American people and an example of what we can all do in the fight.

01:26:01.000 You know, I'm sorry to have to tell you this.

01:26:04.000 I've got some stuff coming up in a few weeks.

01:26:06.000 I'm unable now.

01:26:07.000 I was tentatively going to go to the Phoenix 9-11 conference, but I'm going to be unable to make that, Dylan.

01:26:13.000 And I was telling you about that, and you were saying that you've had just too much stuff wrong with production now.

01:26:17.000 You're not going to be able to make it out there either.

01:26:19.000 Well, there's a variety of reasons we might not be able to make the conference, but one of the main things is we might not be able to... The main reason we were going to be able to attend the Arizona conference is because we were going to be in California at the time.

01:26:29.000 And it was really just a hop, skip, and a jump over.

01:26:31.000 You know, we could drive our car over there, we could bring our camera equipment and everything.

01:26:35.000 You know, at this point, it looks like we might not even be in California at that point.

01:26:39.000 So, I mean, that means we would have to get on a plane, we'd have to grab all of our camera equipment, our lighting and everything.

01:26:45.000 You know, apart from that, it just doesn't look like we can attend. 0.90

01:26:47.000 And it sucks. 0.96

01:26:48.000 It definitely sucks for all parties involved. 0.70

01:26:51.000 But, I mean, we just can't do it.

01:26:53.000 Yeah, I've cancelled today as well.

01:26:55.000 I was never really officially set up, and then I just, just too much is going on, too much is happening.

01:27:01.000 I've got to focus on making my One World Government expose, the Master Plan expose, and you guys are making a major motion picture right now, and it's just, you know, I wish I could go to all the conferences, I wish I could, you know, make it to all of them, and I miss not getting to see you guys, but I'll see you guys out in Los Angeles sometime in early to mid-March.

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01:27:35.000 I just want to give a plug to you out. 0.80

01:27:37.000 Thanks for having me on the show.

01:27:40.000 Thanks to all of our fans.

01:27:41.000 Thanks to all the family members who support us.

01:27:43.000 People like Mike, whether or not people believe he's real or not.

01:27:48.000 But, you know, I'm just grateful, man.

01:27:49.000 Things are really working out so far. 1.00

01:27:51.000 Well, the operatives are really stupid. 1.00

01:27:53.000 They're just out of hand. 1.00

01:27:54.000 Unless they know something we don't.

01:27:56.000 Always just saying nothing's real, everything's fake.

01:27:58.000 Because people go and they find out it's real over and over again.

01:28:01.000 We've got so many firefighters and police from Lucatchioli right down the line saying there were bombs in those buildings.

01:28:08.000 And saying it was molten steel.

01:28:10.000 And all the king's horses and all the king's men can't put the New World Order 9-11 fraud back together again.

01:28:18.000 Well, that's what we're hoping, Alex.

01:28:19.000 Alright, we'll talk to you soon, Dylan.

01:28:21.000 And, uh, again, Godspeed, my friend.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, you too, Alex.

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01:33:00.000 Very important story for you to understand how they operate the tyranny in these airports and these aircraft.

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01:33:06.000 I appreciate him rescheduling to today.

01:33:08.000 Right now, let's go to Rob in Australia, then Steve, Putney, Greg, Paula, and others.

01:33:14.000 Go ahead, Rob.

01:33:14.000 Hi, Alex.

01:33:17.000 Just a few quick questions here.

01:33:20.000 First of all, do you think that there's an unusual amount of presidential candidates running for president this year?

01:33:26.000 Are you an American living in Australia?

01:33:27.000 Yeah, I'm an American living in Australia.

01:33:29.000 What are you, a teacher over there?

01:33:30.000 No, no, my wife was from here.

01:33:32.000 Oh, cool.

01:33:32.000 You like it?

01:33:34.000 This is serious America.

01:33:34.000 It's great, yeah.

01:33:36.000 It doesn't seem like as much of a police state over here, I guess.

01:33:39.000 Yeah, it's more of a soft police state.

01:33:41.000 I'll believe it's there.

01:33:42.000 Yes, definitely.

01:33:44.000 The real Crocodile Dundee wouldn't hand his guns in, so they came over and gunned him down.

01:33:48.000 Well, yeah, you have the whole Martin Bryant thing.

01:33:51.000 He took two of them with him.

01:33:53.000 Yes, there's an unusual amount running right now and the media is totally ignoring Ron Paul for president.

01:34:00.000 Yes, I've seen that and it's frustrating.

01:34:03.000 But why do you think so many are running?

01:34:05.000 I think it's because they think it's a weak Republican field because so many established Republicans that could run have such low approval ratings.

01:34:16.000 And also maybe to muddy the waters, just to So many choices out there, people.

01:34:20.000 Yeah, and that actually strengthens Hillary in the final endgame. 1.00

01:34:23.000 Now, no one should vote for her because she lied repeatedly, swearing she would never run.

01:34:27.000 Yeah.

01:34:28.000 But, I mean, I don't know who's worse, Hillary Clinton or the Penguin, Rudolph Giuliani, Mr. 9-11.

01:34:34.000 Yeah, running on the strength of 9-11 and... I mean, that guy just, just, just radiates mobster.

01:34:41.000 We might as well dig up old Mayor Mob Boss Daley and run him for President.

01:34:48.000 My second question is, do you think that it's harmful to the truth movement when people like David Shaler claim that there were no planes that hit the towers?

01:34:58.000 I do think it's harmful, and I think he just mentioned that offhand at the end of an interview.

01:35:03.000 Yeah, I think that's the interview.

01:35:04.000 I probably read that.

01:35:05.000 Did you say Pentagon or towers?

01:35:07.000 Towers.

01:35:08.000 Yeah, clearly something's going on with the Pentagon, but I mean, I've talked to people I know personally.

01:35:13.000 I've talked to distant cousins who saw at least the second plane hit.

01:35:17.000 I've talked to people who saw both hit.

01:35:19.000 And it's all... They can't fake that many videos.

01:35:22.000 No, they can't fake 70 plus videos.

01:35:26.000 Yeah, no, it's off the charts.

01:35:29.000 And there's a... and I appreciate your call.

01:35:32.000 I'm getting an echo back from your phone, so I'm going to let you go.

01:35:34.000 I have tried to not engage this.

01:35:38.000 Because it will just put so much attention onto it.

01:35:43.000 And I've been hoping the mainstream media would, and the establishment, would ignore this major chink in our underbelly. 1.00

01:35:51.000 I think a lot of people pushing it are just nodding to intense pressure.

01:35:55.000 I mean, some of these people that pushed the no-planes-hit-the-towers, or the space beams did it, will throttle you.

01:36:02.000 I mean, they will go online and they will basically say the worst things you can imagine about you.

01:36:07.000 and throttle you and a lot of people get throttled and they then go okay i'll i'll interview you or i'll push it okay i'll say it could have happened and uh and you can tell there's a payroll for like three years There are literally thousands of people that run around posting this just on every message board.

01:36:30.000 It could be about any issue.

01:36:31.000 Hey, we don't want to take the new live cancer virus.

01:36:33.000 No planes!

01:36:34.000 No planes!

01:36:35.000 Hey, you know, the borders are wide open and it's a problem.

01:36:37.000 No planes!

01:36:38.000 No planes!

01:36:39.000 Hey, Building 7 was clearly blown up. 0.92

01:36:41.000 That's ridiculous! 0.98

01:36:42.000 How dare you even say Building 7 was blown up? 0.94

01:36:46.000 No, it was Krypton beams from planet Kwokon.

01:36:54.000 And it's just unbelievable.

01:36:57.000 And it's all extremely suspect.

01:37:00.000 And I think some of the people are mentally unstable that are pushing it.

01:37:03.000 Still others, look at their pedigrees, look at where they come from.

01:37:09.000 And it's the old poison pill.

01:37:14.000 But it's not going to work.

01:37:16.000 Again, all the king's horses and all the king's men Cannot put the New World Order hoax back together again.

01:37:28.000 It doesn't matter.

01:37:29.000 They can put people on TV saying green aliens did it with purple spots.

01:37:34.000 They can say space beams did it.

01:37:36.000 They can say no planes hit it.

01:37:38.000 It's 70 plus cameras that caught the second one. 0.89

01:37:42.000 It's just ridiculous.

01:37:43.000 They can say that until the cows come home.

01:37:48.000 I, if we need to write an article about this, it's time to just go ahead and level the main InfoWars canons at this.

01:37:53.000 It's grown to disgustingly and mustesticize.

01:37:56.000 I hoped it wouldn't.

01:37:58.000 And I guess it's time to wheel the howitzers out and point them at point-blank range at people and just devastate them.

01:38:05.000 We're able to do that because of you, the listeners, the power of tens of millions of people that tune in over the week, millions every single day, conservatively 2 million, 5 million visitors conservatively to the group of websites indexed.

01:38:20.000 It's incredible.

01:38:21.000 And when you take action, I mean, you need to know others are taking action with you.

01:38:24.000 You can just feel the group societal species movement.

01:38:31.000 Terrorism is the foundational event they're building and pushing their police state and their whole program on.

01:38:38.000 It must be destroyed.

01:38:39.000 So I tell you, we're going to write a piece exposing this without giving people's names to give them attention because it can create a feedback loop if we do and then send them people.

01:38:47.000 No, you just must devastate the enemy, devastate the operatives, Devastate their mental patient followers by attacking the idea without giving them any attention is the way to do it. 0.74

01:39:02.000 If you want to take a cue, I know what I'm doing folks.

01:39:04.000 That's how you do it.

01:39:05.000 And then lay out maybe the ten smoking guns that are irrefutable.

01:39:11.000 Number one.

01:39:13.000 Maybe I should do a countdown on video or something if I had time.

01:39:19.000 Number one, the hijackers were trained at U.S.

01:39:25.000 military bases.

01:39:29.000 I just talked to a fellow the other night, and I'm about to cover confirmed cases of this, but I talked to a fellow after I spoke to almost a thousand people at UT last Thursday, I guess seven days ago today, and he said, yeah, my sister You know, she works down at the big Air Force Base, what is it, Patterson, down in San Antonio, and she swears in 2000, she trained Muhammad Ata at their spy school down there.

01:39:58.000 Well, let's just forget that, because we can't confirm that, and she's too scared to go public. 0.74

01:40:04.000 This is a credible gentleman.

01:40:05.000 Let's just talk about what we know.

01:40:09.000 I gotta dig up their phone numbers again and get them all on.

01:40:12.000 I should do a whole show on the 9-11 smoking guns that are irrefutable.

01:40:15.000 Just focus in on maybe ten of them, because there's 600 of them, but the ten top ones.

01:40:19.000 And I haven't really figured out which ones would be the top ten, because they're all so important.

01:40:25.000 You know, they don't want to have a debate on CNN or Hannity.

01:40:28.000 Also, notice who Hannity and others keep having on over and over again.

01:40:35.000 Either those that say it's all the Jews or those that say it's space beams.

01:40:38.000 It's pretty obvious.

01:40:40.000 Or those that say no planes.

01:40:42.000 It's just incredible.

01:40:46.000 But it doesn't work anymore.

01:40:48.000 It just doesn't work.

01:40:51.000 People know exactly what it is.

01:40:53.000 So you failed again.

01:40:55.000 And I'm afraid you'll continue to fail.

01:41:00.000 We will defend this republic and we will save this country with God's grace and help.

01:41:07.000 Okay?

01:41:08.000 So just put that in your pipe and smoke it.

01:41:11.000 But I interviewed two embassy heads.

01:41:14.000 One of them's name was Springman, and this was in the big Canadian papers.

01:41:18.000 It was up in Ottawa.

01:41:18.000 That's where it first broke.

01:41:22.000 And they were coming through Saudi Arabia, through Riyadh, and then through Canada to the U.S.

01:41:28.000 And they wanted, and this is Mohammed Adda and six others, the Malaysian Terror Summit in 2000.

01:41:37.000 The headline is something like, you know, FBI blocked, it's in my films, but FBI blocked Embassy.

01:41:48.000 Another headline was FBI let Al Qaeda come back in after Malaysian terror summit.

01:41:55.000 Those are almost exact headlines from memory.

01:41:57.000 You Google those, you'll get them.

01:41:59.000 But I, we've got to find that interview.

01:42:00.000 I mean, this was like two months after 9-11.

01:42:01.000 I interviewed Mr. Springman and one other embassy employee, but he was the head of an embassy, and they come in with their Saudi Arabian passports, and it says, these are Al-Qaeda terrorists in the State Department computer.

01:42:18.000 Do not let them in. 0.97

01:42:21.000 So, he doesn't let them in, and all of a sudden the State Department Chief calls him out of DC, And says, let them back in.

01:42:31.000 This is just a cover story.

01:42:33.000 They're not really Al Qaeda.

01:42:34.000 He says, no.

01:42:35.000 I need some type of direct order in writing.

01:42:37.000 I can't do this.

01:42:38.000 Then the CIA section chief calls and says, let them in.

01:42:41.000 They let them in.

01:42:43.000 Six of them.

01:42:45.000 Was it six or seven?

01:42:46.000 It was him and six.

01:42:47.000 I think it was seven.

01:42:48.000 So that happens.

01:42:50.000 Okay.

01:42:51.000 Then, right around the same time, what about a month and a half after 9-11, the headline, Associated Press, similar headline, originally originated in the San Jose Mercury News, headline, Dean of Defense Language School says Bush did it.

01:43:14.000 AP had something like, Dean who blamed Bush for attacks as being court-martialed, or head of school.

01:43:19.000 Again, I've done PowerPoints with it, and it's in my films.

01:43:22.000 You've seen it.

01:43:22.000 You can go find it.

01:43:25.000 And what does he say in the few paragraphs they quoted him from?

01:43:30.000 What did the colonel say?

01:43:34.000 The colonel said, hey man, three of these people were trained here at the base, including Muhammad Atta.

01:43:41.000 In high-level training.

01:43:44.000 In classified, top secret training.

01:43:47.000 Something's going on here.

01:43:48.000 Then you got MSNBC, Pensacola News Journal, and Newsweek reporting that three of five of the hijackers were trained in a secret flight school program at the Pensacola Naval Air Station.

01:44:01.000 And then one of the guys who looked identical and had the same name two weeks after 9-11 crashed his jet on takeoff and died.

01:44:07.000 Okay.

01:44:12.000 Now, you bring that up, and then you've got the San Diego terror cell, San Francisco terror cells, Miami terror cells, where the FBI's paying for their houses, cars, credit cards, where they've got FBI informants living with them.

01:44:26.000 You've got 200-plus Mossad shadowing them.

01:44:29.000 you You've got FBI agents who pick up on the hijackers who are creating their ledger, their history all over again.

01:44:38.000 We want to get their computers.

01:44:39.000 We want to boss them. 0.59

01:44:40.000 They're planning to plot planes in the World Trade Center.

01:44:42.000 No!

01:44:42.000 You're off the case.

01:44:43.000 You're not allowed to.

01:44:44.000 And if you do anything, you'll be arrested.

01:44:45.000 Then after they try to go public, they're told you'll be arrested.

01:44:47.000 They get up on C-SPAN and hold up the letters saying, I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know and break down crying.

01:44:53.000 That one story of them clearly being operatives, there's more evidence.

01:44:58.000 It goes on for hour, after hour, after hour, after hour.

01:45:04.000 You just open and shut the crown of exposing how they did it.

01:45:14.000 I know that's number one.

01:45:21.000 44,000 US troops, 18,000 British troops for four months before 9/11, massing in Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and several other countries encircling Afghanistan, massing in Pakistan, launch order Pentagon battle plans ready three months before.

01:45:38.000 Bush, two days before, Source Newsweek, Associated Press, Reuters, USA Today, had the launch orders on his desk.

01:45:49.000 To attack Afghanistan. 0.98

01:45:54.000 Just out of the clear blue sky.

01:45:56.000 No one heard about that.

01:45:57.000 There was no discussion of that.

01:45:58.000 Just masses of troops massing quietly.

01:46:00.000 Aircraft carrier strike forces arriving three days before.

01:46:04.000 Two of them.

01:46:05.000 In the Persian Gulf.

01:46:08.000 Huge military operations set up.

01:46:13.000 Boom.

01:46:14.000 Mega smoking gun.

01:46:16.000 Then you've got the head of Pakistani intelligence wiring $100,000, source New York Times, Washington Post, a bunch of other Times of India, wiring $100,000, confirmed and admitted to Mohammed Ada, the lead hijacker, months before the attacks.

01:46:28.000 In the second trip of his life to the U.S., he's there the day the attack happens.

01:46:32.000 In the five days before, he meets with members of the Security Council, with the CIA chief, with the heads of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Porter Goss and Senator Bob Graham.

01:46:45.000 On the morning of the attack, he's having breakfast with Bob Graham and the other intelligence chief in the house, Porter Gosch, and the aide walks in and says, the towers have been hit, and they turn, smile, and say, we know.

01:46:58.000 You better believe they know.

01:47:05.000 Then you've got NORAD standing down, Cheney in the White House bunker saying the order still stands.

01:47:10.000 Two months before the attacks in June, destroying standard operating procedures since 1957, not allowing generals and admirals or their designates to shoot down errant hijacked aircraft.

01:47:22.000 And it just goes on and on and on and on and on.

01:47:32.000 And I said I'd go to your calls, but you bring up a question like that, I've got to answer it.

01:47:37.000 Did you think the New World Order was just going to let us waltz in here and expose 9-11 without infiltrators?

01:47:44.000 Without operatives?

01:47:47.000 Folks, if I've been offered money before to join the New World Order, you better believe other people are offered it, and that's their God, folks, and they will take it.

01:47:59.000 Now I don't know about all the individuals, and there's a few of them I'm sure of, but they need to be shunned.

01:48:10.000 They don't need to be promoted by attacking them.

01:48:12.000 You promote them.

01:48:14.000 Don't ever say their names.

01:48:17.000 Just lay out the facts on them.

01:48:19.000 And then move forward more importantly talking about the real issues and we don't have the thousands of operatives paid to sit there on message boards.

01:48:27.000 You have to go do it and get the articles and push the facts about them trained at our bases and being agents.

01:48:34.000 And push the facts that are there.

01:48:37.000 And building seven and the thermite and all the key things.

01:48:42.000 It's gotta be done.

01:48:44.000 And you are doing that.

01:48:47.000 Listen, I want you to go to every message board, your entire email list.

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01:49:09.000 Spread the word aggressively.

01:49:11.000 Go write your own articles.

01:49:12.000 We've got thousands of journalists writing Stories out there about stuff that doesn't matter, who listen to this show, why don't you go, do stories!

01:49:21.000 Put it in your name, do it in the pen name!

01:49:23.000 Just fight!

01:49:25.000 Fight them!

01:49:27.000 You know, first they deny there's a North American Union, then they try to say it's okay and it's no big deal, and then... It's the same thing with 9-11, it's just, it's not gonna work.

01:49:38.000 But to see some of these stinkers, In motion, and then to see weak-minded people or others just kind of give it a little bit of credence.

01:49:47.000 It's got to be dealt with.

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01:53:47.000 Let's go to Chris in New Zealand and Steve Putney, Greg Paula and others.

01:53:50.000 Steven, or Chris in New Zealand, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:53:53.000 G'day Alex, how are you, Mike?

01:53:55.000 Good, sir.

01:53:57.000 Alright, I've got a couple of documents here that are actually going to blow you away, I think.

01:54:03.000 One, you can find at the Reserve Bank of this country, and the other you can find at the Treasury, the Treasury website of this country.

01:54:10.000 Well let me guess, it says you've got private bankers that issue your money and run your nation.

01:54:15.000 It's better than that.

01:54:17.000 We're going to use it to prosecute the international banksters.

01:54:20.000 Oh good!

01:54:21.000 Now before they rip these things off the websites, we want to get them out there.

01:54:25.000 We want you and others to get copies of them.

01:54:28.000 Because what we've actually got is the crown financial statement and we've got information pertaining exactly how much money they've printed out of thin air and recursively loaned.

01:54:41.000 That's right.

01:54:41.000 They print it out of nothing, and then the private institutions loan it to you and get real assets.

01:54:46.000 Break it down for folks.

01:54:48.000 Right.

01:54:48.000 Well, it's a big report, so what I'll do is I'll give you the websites.

01:54:52.000 It's treasury.gov.nz.

01:54:54.000 Say that again. 0.71

01:54:57.000 It's... Hold on.

01:54:59.000 Hold on.

01:54:59.000 Treasury?

01:55:00.000 Treasury.gov.nz.

01:55:03.000 Now, we want you to grab copies of this, and your readers to grab copies of this, before it disappears.

01:55:10.000 What was that last part of the address?

01:55:13.000 Treasury dot G-O-V-T dot N-Z.

01:55:22.000 Alright, gotcha.

01:55:24.000 Now that's the Treasury website of this jurisdiction.

01:55:26.000 Now on there, you'll find an awful lot of rubbish about the budget.

01:55:29.000 We all know what budgets are. 0.60

01:55:31.000 But then they've got the comprehension... Then they've got another report, don't they?

01:55:35.000 Bingo!

01:55:36.000 The Crown Financial Statement.

01:55:40.000 And it's one hell of a read.

01:55:43.000 On about page, what is it, page 22 of 38 within the Crown Financial Statement, you'll find a thing called Statement of Borrowings.

01:55:56.000 Now within that, it'll expose how many bonds, how many treasury notes, and how many foreign exchange contracts it actually borrowed.

01:56:04.000 In your currency, the European currency and others.

01:56:09.000 Now what's interesting is it adds up to $42 billion plus bucks going on $43 billion bucks.

01:56:17.000 And of course they've borrowed it out against our birth certificates.

01:56:20.000 Not bad when there's only a population here of 3 million, 4 million people.

01:56:23.000 Now the other document that you've got to marry that against is on the Reserve Bank website.

01:56:30.000 rbnz.govt.nz.

01:56:34.000 Okay, move quick.

01:56:39.000 We're almost out of time.

01:56:41.000 Right, okay.

01:56:42.000 Now on there, have a look at a thing called money and credit aggregates.

01:56:46.000 And what that says is that the bank, the central bank, only owes 3 billion bucks.

01:56:53.000 Whoops, there's a missing 40 billion bucks. 0.72

01:56:55.000 But further, that exposes the fact that the people of this jurisdiction owe 252 billion dollars.

01:57:03.000 And only 3.5 billion dollars has ever been issued or printed.

01:57:07.000 That's right.

01:57:08.000 There's a whole other financial world.

01:57:10.000 I mean, the University of Texas has done more thieving than your whole country has, if you look at their books.

01:57:15.000 And the water districts, the school districts, they all do it.

01:57:19.000 Literally, the financial world is like the matrix.

01:57:22.000 What you see has nothing to do with reality.

01:57:25.000 Sir, I appreciate your call.

01:57:27.000 Very informative.

01:57:28.000 We'll look into it.

01:57:30.000 Thank you.

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01:57:40.000 Government cover-ups.

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01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:56.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:09.000 Now into hour number three, we have a guest with an incredible airport horror story that Follows the M.O.

01:58:16.000 of these individuals you'll need to hear about.

01:58:18.000 Then we'll continue with the news and your calls.

01:58:20.000 But right now let's go to Steve Putney, Greg and others.

01:58:23.000 Steve in L.A., thanks for holding, you're on the air.

01:58:26.000 Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call.

01:58:28.000 Thank you.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, I have a, I got a question for you.

01:58:31.000 Have you ever heard of a name Indira Singh?

01:58:34.000 The name Indira Singh, she was an emergency worker at Ground Zero on 9-11?

01:58:38.000 No, I haven't.

01:58:41.000 It rings some dim bell, but fill me in.

01:58:44.000 Let me tell you, I've been looking into 9-11 for a couple of years now.

01:58:49.000 I gotta tell you, the longer I look into it, the more I find it stinks.

01:58:54.000 The whole story stinks.

01:58:56.000 Yeah, we know the story is a lie.

01:58:58.000 We know who had the motive.

01:59:00.000 Well, I came upon this interview that she gave in April of 2005 on Pacifica Radio.

01:59:09.000 She was a She was an emergency worker at Ground Zero and she worked for JPMorgan Chase in the Information Technology and Risk Management Department there.

01:59:20.000 And when 9-11 happened, she went down to help out and her triage site was set up right next to Building 7 and according to her testimony, she was told by people identifying themselves as FDNY that they were going to bring the building down on purpose.

01:59:40.000 Yes.

01:59:42.000 I've talked to over 50 people who have even heard it on NPR, but they won't give us the tape.

01:59:46.000 They were phased.

01:59:47.000 You know what?

01:59:47.000 Right, right.

01:59:49.000 Send that right now.

01:59:50.000 Do you have the link to that?

01:59:51.000 And we'll find the clip and play it.

01:59:52.000 Send it to Kevin at Infowars.com and he'll grab it and send it to the network.

01:59:58.000 Or I can put you on hold.

01:59:59.000 You can email the link to the interview to John Harmon right now.

02:00:04.000 That would, yeah, please put me on hold because, you know, I have it queued up right now.

02:00:07.000 Oh, please, let us hear it right now.

02:00:10.000 Absolutely, it's probably 30 seconds long.

02:00:12.000 Okay, just make sure you put your telephone right up by the speaker, okay?

02:00:15.000 I will do, here it is.

02:00:16.000 Okay.

02:00:17.000 Well, to the east of Building 7, where Building 7 came down, and what we were expecting as an EMT or trained-for-life survivors, and there were people on the pile digging and looking for survivors, and what would happen is they would bring someone out to the nearest and what would happen is they would bring someone out to the We would stabilize them, put them in an ambulance, and send them further uptown.

02:00:40.000 So we were setting up triage as close to the pile as possible, you know, on it in many cases.

02:00:47.000 So what we were doing was setting up different kinds of stations, IV stations, cardiac stations, wound stations, burn stations, just trying to have an organized space.

02:01:00.000 Yes.

02:01:02.000 What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon afternoon, after midday on 9-11, we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down.

02:01:16.000 If you had been there, not being able to see very much, just flames everywhere and dark smoke, it is entirely possible.

02:01:24.000 I do believe that they brought the links up and down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it was unstable because of the collateral damage.

02:01:32.000 That I don't know.

02:01:33.000 I can't attest to the validity of that.

02:01:36.000 All I can attest to is that by noon or one o'clock, they told us we had to move from that triage site up to Pace University, a little further away.

02:01:46.000 Building 7 was going to come down or be brought down.

02:01:49.000 Did they actually use the word brought down?

02:01:53.000 And who was it that was telling you that?

02:01:54.000 The fire department.

02:01:55.000 The fire department.

02:01:56.000 And they did use the word we're going to have to bring it down.

02:02:02.000 That's pretty much it right there.

02:02:03.000 Okay, what's the name of the Pacifica show and what's her name again?

02:02:07.000 The name of the show is Guns and Butter.

02:02:09.000 And it's on Pacifica Radio.

02:02:11.000 It's hosted by Bonnie Faulkner.

02:02:12.000 You can reach that website at gunsandbutter.net.

02:02:16.000 And click on the archives.

02:02:17.000 The archives to the show is April 27, 2005 and the lady's name is Indira Singh.

02:02:24.000 Stay there.

02:02:25.000 I want you to send us that link right now and tell us when in the interview it comes to that point, okay?

02:02:30.000 Really good call there.

02:02:32.000 Steve, next time you got info like that, you tell the folks answering the phone to put you on immediately.

02:02:36.000 I want to talk to Steve right now.

02:02:38.000 We've got another guest coming up.

02:02:40.000 Let's talk to him right now.

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02:05:45.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:59.000 The show, Guns and Butter, is a very respected program.

02:06:02.000 I believe I've been on there as a guest.

02:06:04.000 I've been on Pacifica many times.

02:06:05.000 I had heard the name Indira Singh.

02:06:08.000 I had heard the name of some of the other firefighters and emergency workers who've been on the show.

02:06:13.000 I'm so busy I'll be driving along at midnight listening to, you know, local NPR and hear some firefighters saying there were bombs.

02:06:20.000 I mean, there's so many folks.

02:06:21.000 Here at Ground Zero they're all telling you this.

02:06:23.000 There's very few that will go public.

02:06:25.000 The Loose Change guys got in contact with a fellow who's about to go public who said they saw the bombs going off and the molten steel and all the rest of it.

02:06:32.000 But this Indira Singh thing, we are now confirming on the Guns and Butter site.

02:06:36.000 We're getting those clips.

02:06:37.000 We'll get the host on.

02:06:38.000 We'll get their names.

02:06:39.000 We'll get them back on.

02:06:40.000 In fact, a few months ago, I actually told my producer, who gets very busy, about, and I guess I didn't give him all the details, but we need to get, just send it to kevininfowars.com, all the firefighters, all the police, all the emergency workers that you've heard on the radio, there's so many of them is the problem!

02:06:58.000 We need to get them all in one big article where you can just say, here's 25 of them!

02:07:04.000 You know, we got video clips of them, we got audio clips of them, we got them in People Magazine saying it, but still the disinfo individuals run around saying it's not true, none of it's real.

02:07:15.000 Alright?

02:07:16.000 This is really big, and you know, it is... Aaron James has an incredible story, and I feel sorry for him.

02:07:20.000 He's left two days, the news has been so hot and furious.

02:07:25.000 We've been following so many things.

02:07:27.000 I mean, I even forgot to call the lady back yesterday who was in the Army who saw him handing out upwards of $2,000 every few weeks to him in Baghdad off the giant pallets of $14 billion, one delivery of $4 billion, weighing 363 tons.

02:07:43.000 That was in Reuters.

02:07:44.000 But then I have eyewitnesses calling in.

02:07:46.000 I write down her number.

02:07:47.000 I put it in the pile.

02:07:48.000 I don't give it to my writers.

02:07:50.000 Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Aaron Dykes.

02:07:51.000 They need to be writing articles about this.

02:07:53.000 It's just news breaking continually.

02:07:55.000 And it's stuff that we overlook.

02:07:58.000 I mean, NPR in New York did announce they were going to blow that building up.

02:08:01.000 Okay, I've talked to over 50 people.

02:08:02.000 I've talked to cops who heard it.

02:08:05.000 You call NPR.

02:08:06.000 There is no archive of it.

02:08:07.000 They won't give it to you.

02:08:09.000 Okay, I've got cops on tape, I've got firemen on tape, I've got all these people on tape saying it.

02:08:16.000 They all heard it, they all saw it.

02:08:19.000 And we just start talking about some new whistleblower, and here a caller calls in and goes, hey man, for two years, this has been on the web.

02:08:28.000 At a major syndicated news program.

02:08:33.000 And this happens all the time, I get emails about this stuff, I get leads, I mean there's not that many of us here, it's just There's so many stories, so many things we want to talk about.

02:08:43.000 So in about 20 minutes we'll get into this.

02:08:44.000 And the caller who brought this up and gave us this info is on hold.

02:08:47.000 We're going to be getting clips of it, playing it.

02:08:48.000 John Harmon does the job of ten people up there at the network.

02:08:51.000 I want to commend him.

02:08:54.000 Answering the phone in front of the show and doing clips.

02:08:57.000 It's insane.

02:08:58.000 Support Genesis more so we can get more people in there to help him.

02:09:01.000 Aaron James Was a mixed race.

02:09:09.000 He's not a Muslim. 1.00

02:09:11.000 I believe he said his mother is white.

02:09:13.000 His dad was black and Asian.

02:09:15.000 So I guess that was one big thing against him.

02:09:18.000 Basically, let me just put the story in a nutshell.

02:09:21.000 Well, let's just have him put it in a nutshell, and he's got a website.

02:09:24.000 We've had it up there for two days on InfoWars.

02:09:26.000 And this is the exact same stuff we see over and over again.

02:09:26.000 Visit it.

02:09:29.000 If you argue in any way, they go ahead and taser you, beat you.

02:09:33.000 If you say, I don't like to be racially profiled, or you complain, they stand around you and make fun of you.

02:09:37.000 I've had it happen to me. 0.85

02:09:40.000 Just out of the blue, for no reason, in LA, they just said, oh, you've got stinky feet. 0.76

02:09:43.000 Ha ha. 0.68

02:09:44.000 You want something you want to say, Mr. Stinky Feet? 0.99

02:09:46.000 I mean, I guess these were racist black guys who don't like white guys, you know, they're just having a little fun with a white guy. 0.98

02:09:50.000 Well, it's really, that's the problem with racism. 0.98

02:09:53.000 People just do it back to each other.

02:09:56.000 But Aaron James is our guest, and he was charged with felony first degree.

02:10:04.000 Sir, thank you for holding.

02:10:05.000 I'm sorry we moved you today, and I'm sorry there's so much other stuff breaking around you coming on, but thank you for joining us.

02:10:11.000 In a nutshell, tell folks what happened to you.

02:10:14.000 Thank you for having me here.

02:10:16.000 You bet.

02:10:19.000 To caption it quickly, an overview, we were profiled on our way down due to race issues of ethnicity and we arrived at our hotel without our baggage because the airline had confiscated it at the locks and had rummaged through our baggage looking for whatever you look for when you're profiling someone.

02:10:43.000 We were told, the airline had told us that they had simply misplaced our baggage that it would be delivered to our hotel immediately upon discovery.

02:10:52.000 It arrived at our hotel with a note appended to it indicating this bag has been searched, seized, searched, locks cut due to issues of national security.

02:11:04.000 And so they were not very, they were not very shy about telling us that we had been profiled.

02:11:11.000 We made a complaint On account of this, and on our return trip, we complained at the Northwest Airlines desk.

02:11:19.000 I should back up.

02:11:19.000 Someone said that we went down to the Mayo Clinic as a surgical consult over an injury that I had sustained to my arm.

02:11:26.000 And so when I was attacked and left in a pool of blood on the middle of the aisle of an aircraft on my way back, they were attacking a man who had the use of one arm and who had done nothing in order to instigate this attack or warrant this attack.

02:11:41.000 We complained on our return flight.

02:11:43.000 They were very aggressive.

02:11:44.000 They ripped the complaint form from my hand when I indicated, when I used the words profiling, and said, well, you won't be needing this complaint form, then will you?

02:11:51.000 We noticed that.

02:11:52.000 Well, let's just make it clear.

02:11:54.000 You flew down from Canada to the US.

02:11:56.000 Your bags don't come.

02:11:57.000 They say they searched them.

02:11:59.000 You went to the airport and said, I want a complaint form for being racially profiled.

02:12:03.000 That's when it all started.

02:12:04.000 Go through it.

02:12:04.000 He ripped the complaint form from my hand and said, I said I may be following this up from a legal perspective because this is profiling.

02:12:12.000 He said, well, if you're going to go that route, you won't be needing this then.

02:12:15.000 And he ripped a complaint form from my hand.

02:12:17.000 There were three of them at the desk while we were speaking.

02:12:20.000 I looked back and I noticed that seven of them had gathered and convened about the desk just before we took the elevator up to the main level.

02:12:27.000 And they were giving us very hostile looks and gestures.

02:12:34.000 Then took our return flight.

02:12:36.000 It was the trip from Rochester on a return flight to Minneapolis took place without incident.

02:12:44.000 We had complained on a return trip at Rochester.

02:12:46.000 However, our trip from Rochester from Minneapolis to Winnipeg ended in disaster.

02:12:52.000 We We're attacked by all appearances.

02:12:57.000 This attack was very much premeditated.

02:12:59.000 It was flight 1628 Northwest Airlines, 7.15 p.m.

02:13:02.000 at Minneapolis Airport, Bloomingdale.

02:13:05.000 And what happened is that within 30 seconds of having boarded the aircraft, Northwest Airlines stewardess Sherry Cardell began harassing, accosting the mother verbally on account of an issue with a bag. 0.98

02:13:21.000 She stated, is there a problem here?

02:13:23.000 Twice, and loud enough to draw the attention of the entire set of 150 passengers.

02:13:29.000 I'd just like to say here I've never been addressed like that by an airline attendant before in my life.

02:13:33.000 Yeah, let's be clear.

02:13:34.000 Tell us who we're speaking with just for the audience.

02:13:36.000 I'm Aaron's mother.

02:13:37.000 I was with him.

02:13:37.000 We went down together because we were expecting to have surgery on Aaron's arm.

02:13:43.000 Okay, and then what did the flight attendant say to you just out of the blue?

02:13:45.000 Tell us the story.

02:13:46.000 Just out of the blue, I'm just sitting there minding my own business and all of a sudden this woman is standing at the edge of my aisle and she says to me in a very loud and aggressive, hostile tone, is there a problem here? 0.99

02:14:00.000 I have no idea that... Now again, how this happens is you stand up and say you're going to file complaints with the goons outside, and that's how they do it.

02:14:07.000 They wait then until they get you on the plane, then they've got you in the national security zone, and can use the marshals and everybody else on you.

02:14:14.000 They targeted us, but good.

02:14:17.000 Okay, so you're there, what happens next?

02:14:19.000 So she says... Is there a problem here?

02:14:22.000 And folks, I've already read the report, that's why I'm going through the story with them, and you can link to it up on InfoWars.com.

02:14:27.000 So just, is there a problem here?

02:14:29.000 What happened next?

02:14:30.000 Well, I told her I didn't know what she was talking about, and she indicated the bag that Aaron had left on our seats when he went to the bathroom, and she, very hostile, said, does this belong to you or somebody else?

02:14:42.000 I explained it was Aaron's.

02:14:45.000 I was shocked.

02:14:46.000 I have to admit, I was thinking at the time, if you were an airline attendant in Canada, you would not have a job.

02:14:54.000 Nobody talks to a customer like that.

02:14:57.000 That's what I was thinking at the time.

02:15:00.000 I knew nothing about the fact that they had all taken Homeland Security Training Program.

02:15:05.000 Oh yeah, they're all little Jack Bowers. 0.82

02:15:07.000 They're totally paranoid!

02:15:09.000 I understand.

02:15:09.000 So what happened next?

02:15:10.000 Okay, Aaron, you take it from there.

02:15:13.000 Okay, just to clarify, you can look on my website, AaronJamesStory.com.

02:15:18.000 That is A-A-R-O-N-J-A-M-E-S-S-T-O-R-Y dot com.

02:15:22.000 You'll see a link regarding the Homeland Security Training as well as links to much of the material we're about to discuss.

02:15:27.000 In any case, yesterday I just finished this training, which was a training in order to promote extremism and hostility in general.

02:15:38.000 She asked my mother twice if there was a problem regarding the bag my mother had.

02:15:41.000 Well look, that's an old bad cop trick.

02:15:43.000 You're just calm and they want you out of an area or something and they say, you got a problem?

02:15:46.000 Huh?

02:15:46.000 What's the problem?

02:15:47.000 And then at that point I just put my hands at my side and then they start moving forward and you just lay down.

02:15:55.000 And that's how you get them, because they're still going to attack you, and then you get to send them to prison.

02:15:59.000 But go ahead.

02:16:00.000 Okay.

02:16:02.000 I was in the washroom at this time, because within 30 seconds of having boarded the aircraft, my mother was getting seated, I went to use the washroom, and even in this brief span of time, she's already being profiled and verbally accosted.

02:16:14.000 On my way back from the washroom, as I'm walking down the aisle, Sherry Cardella, the same stewardess, accosted me in the aisle. 0.99

02:16:21.000 I walked past and she had said something that was very soft and indiscernible.

02:16:25.000 We'd already been profiled.

02:16:25.000 I didn't respond.

02:16:26.000 That wasn't exactly on the best of terms with Northwest Airlines to begin with after this point, but I heard a voice yelling at me from behind me.

02:16:35.000 And she, again, the same response, is there a problem here?

02:16:39.000 In fact, she said, do you have a problem this time?

02:16:41.000 And I wasn't sure that she was speaking to me.

02:16:43.000 I hadn't done anything to mitigate that kind of response.

02:16:47.000 And she stated it twice.

02:16:50.000 Again, do you have a problem?

02:16:51.000 And I turned.

02:16:52.000 I was walking away.

02:16:53.000 I noticed the voice didn't get it.

02:16:54.000 It wasn't any further away than it was the first time I turned.

02:16:57.000 And she was standing right in front of me, invading my personal space. 1.00

02:17:03.000 And I said, no.

02:17:04.000 She said, well, are you sure?

02:17:05.000 And I said, yes.

02:17:08.000 And she said, oh, really?

02:17:10.000 I said, well, no, I have just no problem here.

02:17:12.000 And every time that she spoke, her voice raised just a little bit more to try to grab attention.

02:17:17.000 She was attempting to villainize us in front of the audience. 1.00

02:17:20.000 They gotta do that before they beat you down with pleasure. 1.00

02:17:22.000 Exactly.

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02:22:04.000 About the bombs and the buildings being brought down.

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02:22:19.000 Okay, going back to Aaron James and his mother, who I didn't know was going to be on with us today, or perhaps my producer didn't tell me, so I apologize for not suddenly going, hey, what's going on?

02:22:28.000 Let's accelerate through what happened next on the plane, then what happened after when they followed you to Canada, and what subsequently has happened.

02:22:36.000 Aaron James, please continue.

02:22:38.000 Very quickly then, there were five counts of harassment aboard the aircraft.

02:22:43.000 One, the first was the issue over the bag.

02:22:44.000 The second, the blatant harassment in the aisle.

02:22:47.000 Third, the same stewardess came back and asked us about customs forms again, yet she had already... Okay, let's stop right there.

02:22:54.000 So this is ongoing.

02:22:55.000 When did you get jumped on?

02:22:58.000 Well, after we were announced lunatics over the open PA system by the stewardess, who would later say we're trained to kill before we were killed.

02:23:06.000 They rerouted the aircraft to the main port.

02:23:10.000 Five officers came on board.

02:23:12.000 A false report of an irate passenger had been released.

02:23:14.000 Yet the senior stewardess reiterates, James remained calm and composed at all times.

02:23:19.000 So a response team, basically a prison tackle gang.

02:23:23.000 Anybody that's seen the video of that, okay, so describe what happened.

02:23:27.000 All with pistols, with guns, and two with taser weapons as well, locked onto the aircraft.

02:23:33.000 We were pointed out.

02:23:34.000 They walked over to my seat.

02:23:36.000 I asked these officers, Sean Hort, number 54, Sergeant Milton, 14, Brad Wingate, 89, Stephen Swaggart, 46, Sergeant Elton Cooper, number 15.

02:23:46.000 Five of them.

02:23:47.000 Yet they'll only claim that there were four officers on board.

02:23:49.000 I'll get into that in just a moment.

02:23:51.000 We were pointed out, and I asked them three questions.

02:23:55.000 Am I under arrest?

02:23:57.000 Have I committed any crime?

02:23:58.000 Am I being charged?

02:24:00.000 Their response was emphatically, no sir, you are not, to all three questions.

02:24:03.000 They asked me then to get up out of my seat, I capitulated, and then they demanded, now get off the plane.

02:24:09.000 I asked, well, if I'm not under arrest, I've committed no crime, and I'm not being charged, under what authority are you asking me to leave the aircraft?

02:24:17.000 And there was no answer to this question.

02:24:20.000 Their response was an attack.

02:24:22.000 Uh, upon an injured man who had come back from the Mayo Clinic, leaving me in a pool of blood with my mother looking on in horror, who was later, was thereafter threatened herself.

02:24:29.000 What did they do to you?

02:24:31.000 Hazard me incessantly with 50,000 volts to the chest.

02:24:33.000 In writing, they have it, uh, they elbowed me in the head.

02:24:36.000 I received the 12-stage laceration to my brow, and I had to be rushed to the hospital.

02:24:40.000 Uh, I was, uh, left in, literally, in a pool of blood in the middle of the aisle of the aircraft.

02:24:45.000 They tried to kill me.

02:24:46.000 And the thing is, in writing, they have it stipulated in writing.

02:24:50.000 That they had this taser over my left chest, which of course is the heart, for over 10 seconds, in writing.

02:24:58.000 Why when they tasered you would they beat you on the head and give you 12 stitches?

02:25:02.000 They elbowed me.

02:25:03.000 I stopped.

02:25:04.000 I began by blocking the taser, trying to block the taser.

02:25:07.000 At no point did I lay any hands on them, however I would. 0.57

02:25:10.000 Yeah, but not just, exactly, like you just gotta like take your shirt off and go, please hit me.

02:25:14.000 I mean, if you do anything, I mean like it's, was it assault on a taser dart?

02:25:20.000 They'll probably start having burials for taser darts. 0.77

02:25:22.000 They already have that for police dogs.

02:25:24.000 You kick a police dog that's attacking you, 44 years.

02:25:27.000 One guy yelled in Newcastle, PA six years ago at a police dog, Associated Press.

02:25:32.000 He was walking through a mall parking lot.

02:25:34.000 The dog, the window was down.

02:25:35.000 Jumped out and scared him.

02:25:36.000 The guy went, AHHHHH!

02:25:38.000 And yelled back.

02:25:39.000 That's happened to me before with other people's dogs.

02:25:41.000 And yelling was assault and he got two years in prison.

02:25:45.000 I mean, pretty soon they'll probably have ceremonies for taser darts and we'll have to bow down and, oh, the officer, the taser dart!

02:25:45.000 So you're lucky.

02:25:52.000 I'm sorry.

02:25:53.000 Okay.

02:25:55.000 I appreciate where you're coming from on that.

02:25:57.000 Dad Wingate, and to make this even clearer, In the hospital, on stand, and there was a trial, there were FBI, CIA, NSA, military, Northwest Airlines employees, and Minneapolis police on the jury pool itself, which is illegal of course, because the jury pool is randomly selected, quote-unquote.

02:26:14.000 But off of the stand, in private, they admit everything to you.

02:26:19.000 And what he said was, while I was receiving my trial stitches to my head, well, you really, you were cooperating all times, and you really, you really, you just, we know you're just a good guy.

02:26:31.000 But of course, you're a big guy, so we weren't sure what you were going to do, and so we had to act.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, they get them in such a position of fear that they're just a bunch of savage animals.

02:26:44.000 Well, this is where the profiling aspect comes to it. 1.00

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02:26:48.000 They see a large minority, they associate, and they've been trained to by these profiling programs that are going on, and as my website will indicate on that link, their Minneapolis profiling program was one of the pioneer projects, and so probably one of the more severe. 0.72

02:27:02.000 But let's go through briefly when we get back, and we'll have to have you on as this develops, but let's go through what they charge you with, what happened when they came to Canada for you, the threats you got, And then you're at the trial, and they're like, yeah, we know you didn't do anything, but ha, ha, ha, ha, you know.

02:27:17.000 You're, you know, you're not cop, you're little people.

02:27:21.000 And this happens all the time on these planes.

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02:31:16.000 About four months ago it came out in the Denver Post and the Associated Press that head air marshals and a bunch of their deputies went public saying look we're told to put people on terror lists every month we have to have quotas to keep the illusion that there's this big threat going and we put innocent people on there for no reason and this is on their permanent record forever. 0.98

02:31:43.000 And I've looked at this case.

02:31:45.000 I've looked at the reports.

02:31:46.000 He's got masses of documentation on his website.

02:31:48.000 Aaron James does.

02:31:51.000 And he got the beat down.

02:31:54.000 He got his head split.

02:31:54.000 He got tasered.

02:31:55.000 He went to the hospital.

02:31:56.000 And they don't stop there now because they've got to protect themselves now.

02:32:00.000 When they wrongfully attack you, then they've got to make sure and put you under, into the system, so that you, you know, to protect themselves.

02:32:00.000 That's the problem.

02:32:07.000 Boy, that's really bad karma.

02:32:10.000 I don't believe in karma itself, but you know, just that you reap what you sow, I do believe in.

02:32:14.000 And man, I wouldn't want to be just in God's crosshairs.

02:32:19.000 It's just, boy, all the bad stuff's going to happen to them in their lives.

02:32:23.000 There isn't going to be any man that does it.

02:32:25.000 It's going to be God.

02:32:27.000 And I just hope evil people understand that you do bad stuff.

02:32:31.000 You've got really bad stuff coming up.

02:32:33.000 And it's real.

02:32:35.000 You need to know that.

02:32:35.000 It's real.

02:32:37.000 You need to understand that.

02:32:38.000 I'm scared to do wrong, folks, because I know.

02:32:41.000 I've experienced it.

02:32:42.000 You do good, you get rewarded.

02:32:43.000 You do bad, you get punished.

02:32:45.000 And it isn't man that does it most of the time.

02:32:51.000 Just finishing up, Aaron James, with just the whole saga, what happened, and then how we can help you.

02:32:57.000 Well, there was a massive cover-up that followed.

02:33:00.000 The first thing I would state is that Northwest Airlines claims that there was no camera aboard the aircraft, which is absolute nonsense. 0.88

02:33:07.000 This is ludicrous.

02:33:09.000 There's always a camera aboard a flight, no less an international flight, between nations.

02:33:16.000 And so, in order to falsely implicate and cover up for their crimes, and avoid culpability, they tried to confine my mother to the plane, insisted that she couldn't come off, and I've been instructed that if they had been successful in this, that I might be dead at this point.

02:33:28.000 They then falsified the reports.

02:33:31.000 They then withheld their badge numbers.

02:33:33.000 They then rearranged the positions on the aircrafts, as reported in their falsified reports.

02:33:38.000 Only four of the five badge numbers were given, in the end.

02:33:41.000 And, once this was complete, They followed suit with a massive media villainization to spread a false message throughout the masses and indoctrinate the people.

02:33:49.000 Oh yeah, all the time you hear, they were beating Al-Qaeda again today, they took him down.

02:33:54.000 Of course.

02:33:55.000 Another deadly Al-Qaeda defeated.

02:33:58.000 And so on the internet, radio, television, and newspaper, Over 100 counts, over 40 counts found on the internet alone of independent media reporting on this.

02:34:09.000 And what gets worse is that I've now recently found no less than five government and FBI sites up on the internet with my name under major crimes.

02:34:19.000 Well, they use you for statistics.

02:34:21.000 Look at the Al-Qaeda we're defeating.

02:34:24.000 Really?

02:34:24.000 And of course, they're told, put innocent people in the system.

02:34:27.000 It's all part of the meat machine.

02:34:29.000 Go through the trial, but go through how they sent FBI up to Canada, how you got threatened.

02:34:34.000 Go through that.

02:34:34.000 The evening before this happened, there was a nightmare in jail.

02:34:38.000 No Miranda rights.

02:34:39.000 Beaten down, left in a pool of blood.

02:34:40.000 I was then jailed.

02:34:41.000 Nine days.

02:34:42.000 With bail denied and FBI interrogation in one FBI agent, Mark Wrench.

02:34:48.000 Who would later appear at my home.

02:34:50.000 But in his cell in Minneapolis, the FBI were admitted in conjunction with access to outside communication being illegally cut off via making my calling card... Yeah, no lawyers, no nothing, just being interrogated.

02:35:02.000 That's all freedom.

02:35:04.000 No, and they also cut off... They made my calling card defunct so that it wouldn't work.

02:35:08.000 So that the standard issue calling card was no longer functional.

02:35:11.000 I could not call a Canadian consulate.

02:35:13.000 No one knew where I was.

02:35:14.000 How did you finally get out?

02:35:19.000 My mother had been in attendance, and again, I was instructed that if she wasn't there, I may not be where I am today.

02:35:25.000 But they finally waited for the pool of blood to pool out of my eyes, so that I'd be more presentable.

02:35:31.000 And nine days gave them the sufficient time to concoct a story, try desperately to find any links perhaps to Al-Qaeda or terrorist threats.

02:35:39.000 During the time I was interrogated, there were threats in the elevator shaft.

02:35:43.000 All medical attention that was ordered by the doctor was denied.

02:35:48.000 The Canadian Consulate refused intervention despite emphasizing that I was in severe danger.

02:35:53.000 And again, this bail hearing came the very day after one of the guards walked into my cell and instructed me, Oh, that's very interesting.

02:36:04.000 Your eyes seem to be much better today.

02:36:06.000 And so at that point, they felt it was safe to release me because most of the evidence of what they had done had been washed away.

02:36:12.000 The blood had pooled out of my eye.

02:36:13.000 Okay, we've only got a minute or two left, then just finish up the story.

02:36:17.000 There was a bail hearing, an unprecedented three-day bail hearing.

02:36:21.000 We were then put on a no-fly list, a 14-hour bus ride back to Winnipeg.

02:36:27.000 We were then threatened at the border by Chris Neeson, U.S.

02:36:30.000 Customs personnel, and that he said that you were going to have major problems when you come back to the border for your trial.

02:36:36.000 And once the day after this, another barrage, I saw FBI agent Mark Rensch, the same agent outside my home at 11pm, all the way up from United States, and apparently there are over 135 cases of this on record.

02:36:53.000 We're fast becoming North American Union.

02:36:55.000 And so again, why is he here?

02:36:57.000 He just simply wanted to make sure that we're fine, that we're defined beyond any plausible doubt because of the fact that they intended to come to me.

02:37:05.000 Basically, the Feds just spend all their time protecting themselves from bad deeds they've done.

02:37:10.000 What about the threat you then got?

02:37:14.000 Well, again, the threat was that there was a trial.

02:37:19.000 Again, I mentioned there were secret government agents, FBI, NSA, CIA, Minneapolis Police, Northwest Airlines employees, the airline which I was attacked, as well as prosecuting attorneys themselves.

02:37:29.000 And then following this trial, if you want to call it, it's actually a tribunal, The judge, Judge David S. Doty, who's been in charges against him can be seen at CLR.org under federal judges.

02:37:40.000 He's a charged ex-U.S.

02:37:42.000 Marine, therefore a judge, threatened that he would have the U.S.

02:37:45.000 Marshals come and get us.

02:37:47.000 And literally, he compared it and likened it to Hollywood, indicating that Hollywood exaggerates the FBI, but not the U.S.

02:37:54.000 Marshals.

02:37:54.000 He said that they're every bit the bloodhounds that are portrayed to be, and this is all in the middle of a courtroom.

02:37:58.000 You might say this is preposterous, but who's there to hear it when the jury pool is the government itself?

02:38:04.000 Threats on the answering machine.

02:38:05.000 Threat of nine years imprisonment.

02:38:07.000 Registered legal mail sabotage.

02:38:08.000 Wiretapping.

02:38:09.000 Voicemail deletion.

02:38:10.000 My friends were threatened.

02:38:11.000 The threat of a full jury trial.

02:38:12.000 And it's all because they got scared and beat you down and they want to protect themselves.

02:38:16.000 Exactly.

02:38:17.000 And so, amidst all of this, I get five plea bargain attempts in conjunction with this torrent of illegal threats and intimidation.

02:38:24.000 So how did it all end?

02:38:25.000 Because I've got to end it now.

02:38:26.000 How did it all end?

02:38:29.000 Well, there's currently, currently there's this outstanding warrant for my arrest.

02:38:33.000 They've villainized us through the media.

02:38:35.000 I have my, we've been, I've been hospitalized six times due to heart palpitations and heart attack-like symptoms.

02:38:43.000 Friends and family have been terrorized.

02:38:45.000 And again, on the impetus of this threat that the U.S.

02:38:49.000 Marshals will get, will get me and get us, I currently sleep with my door barricaded.

02:38:56.000 I'm so sorry, and this could happen to anybody flying. 0.74

02:38:59.000 It's worse if you're black, it's worse if you're a big guy, but it's bad for everybody. 0.99

02:39:04.000 Like the stewardess says, we are trained to kill before we are killed. 1.00

02:39:07.000 This is the stewardess speaking. 0.97

02:39:08.000 It's insanity.

02:39:10.000 Look, they got mad at you filing a complaint, they called up, they do it all the time.

02:39:14.000 They do it on the plane because they have even more powers there.

02:39:17.000 and they did this to you and you know it's all on their soul and see that they're worldly and don't believe that but they'll find out don't worry you've been through a lot but but God will will have his way with them in the end but how can we help you well again this is we are not guilty of any federal any felony assault and In fact, the assault that they have me down on is a minor assault, and they have me on an FBI slate under major crimes.

02:39:48.000 The point is that we're in fact completely innocent of all of these things, and yet government has abandoned us.

02:39:52.000 We've been to Amnesty International, Foreign Affairs, ACLU... Oh no, they're really there to cover it all up!

02:39:58.000 ACLU tried to deny that any civil rights or violations to humanitarian liberties were made on board that aircraft, which when I asked Being left in a pool of blood is then not a violation.

02:40:06.000 So again, I gotta go because I got another story coming up and we'll follow this as it develops.

02:40:09.000 What are you, how can we help you?

02:40:12.000 We would like to try to create a greater sense of urgency and responsibility amidst the groups and organizations amongst activism and government especially in being responsible in responding to these kind of incidents in particular.

02:40:27.000 So to make a long story short, you've been convicted or you've been charged with first degree felony assault?

02:40:33.000 A pack left in the pool of blood, terrorized, convicted, and wrongly violated, yes.

02:40:38.000 Not guilty of felony assault.

02:40:40.000 Not guilty of felony assault.

02:40:42.000 What are they saying you're guilty of?

02:40:43.000 Well, they're falsely accusing of minor assault, and they have me on an FBI site under major crimes.

02:40:48.000 Again, this is a simply deliberate violation.

02:40:49.000 So are you going back to court, or is this done?

02:40:52.000 Well, no, this is...

02:40:53.000 There's currently this warrant out for my arrest.

02:40:56.000 If I come across the border, then I'll be attacked again.

02:40:59.000 And this judge has said that he has sent the U.S.

02:41:02.000 Marshals to get us and follow us like bloodhounds.

02:41:05.000 And so this is where this is at the present time.

02:41:07.000 So we're trying to... I know.

02:41:08.000 You're in a lot of... Listen, we're going to follow this.

02:41:10.000 We'll talk to you soon.

02:41:11.000 We'll get you back on the show.

02:41:12.000 God bless you.

02:41:12.000 We'll all pray for you.

02:41:14.000 And this is just an example of a cornered family going through hell.

02:41:17.000 We'll follow your case and talk to you soon.

02:41:20.000 Thank you very much, Tim.

02:41:21.000 Thank you.

02:41:21.000 We could talk hours about this.

02:41:23.000 And folks, we get hundreds of calls every couple days with similar things.

02:41:26.000 And then later we even get squad car video.

02:41:29.000 People tell us these types of stories and we get the video where they don't touch the cops, they're beaten to a pool of blood, and they end up going to prison for assaulting cops.

02:41:39.000 I mean, America is a cesspool.

02:41:41.000 Alright? 1.00

02:41:42.000 We are an evil, decadent cesspool. 0.99

02:41:48.000 It's only going to get worse.

02:41:49.000 I've got like 10 minutes of broadcast time left.

02:41:51.000 This is huge news.

02:41:53.000 Earlier we reported on a gentleman who's about to go public, hopefully.

02:41:56.000 Ground zero, EMT.

02:41:57.000 We were told to get out of the building.

02:41:59.000 The building 7 was going to be demolished.

02:42:01.000 We've got that report, but a new one's going up.

02:42:03.000 There's so many of these people.

02:42:04.000 Lou Cacioli and the firefighters talking about bombs going off and molten steel like lava.

02:42:10.000 This is from the program Guns and Butter.

02:42:13.000 Big program, nationally syndicated, out of New York.

02:42:16.000 And this is where they are interviewing Kevin McPadden, we'll tell you about him, emergency worker, and Indra Singh, emergency worker, where they're talking about the bombs and being told to get back, they're going to bring Building 7 down.

02:42:30.000 So here are real people on the record, more of them, and what do the Feds do on their websites?

02:42:36.000 They just say none of it's real.

02:42:38.000 Yeah, well it is real.

02:42:39.000 I couldn't literally do my work because of the firefighters slapping me on the back and saying we know they blew up set and we were told to get back.

02:42:45.000 Okay?

02:42:46.000 At the remembrance, at ground zero.

02:42:49.000 Let's go ahead and roll this first clip from Guns and Butter, the nationally syndicated program with Indra Singh.

02:42:56.000 Here it is.

02:42:57.000 What we were expecting as an EMT or trained for life survivors the pile digging and looking for survivors and what would happen is they would bring someone out to the nearest triage center we would stabilize them put them in an ambulance and send them further uptown so we were setting up triage as close to the pile as possible you know as on it in in many cases so what we were doing was setting up different kinds of stations

02:43:26.000 iv stations cardiac stations just wound stations burn stations just trying to have an organized space one What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon afternoon, after midday on 9-11, we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down.

02:43:50.000 If you had been there, not being able to see very much, just flames everywhere and dark smoke...

02:43:57.000 It is entirely possible.

02:43:58.000 I do believe that they brought Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it was unstable because of the collateral damage.

02:44:07.000 That I don't know.

02:44:08.000 I can't attest to the validity of that.

02:44:11.000 All I can attest to is that by noon or one o'clock, they told us we had to move from that triage site up to Pace University, a little further away, because Building 7 was going to come down or being brought down.

02:44:25.000 Did they actually use the word brought down?

02:44:27.000 And who was it that was telling you this?

02:44:29.000 The fire department.

02:44:30.000 The fire department.

02:44:31.000 And they did use the word, we're going to have to bring it down.

02:44:36.000 And for us, there, observing the nature of the devastation, it made total sense to us that this was indeed a possibility.

02:44:47.000 Given the subsequent controversy over it, I don't know.

02:44:50.000 You know, I'm not an engineer.

02:44:51.000 I don't know.

02:44:52.000 All I know is, you know, that was my experience.

02:44:56.000 We backed off a little bit to Pace University.

02:44:58.000 There was another panic around four o'clock because they were bringing the building down and people seemed to know this ahead of time so people were panicking again and running.

02:45:09.000 I went back to One Liberty which was further south of where I was before and there were triage sites set up in there.

02:45:21.000 We were treating basically people who were on the pile digging for survivors, if there were any.

02:45:27.000 And it was basically chaos.

02:45:30.000 I asked who was in charge, for instance, because I'm supposed to check in with whoever's in charge and no one seemed to know.

02:45:35.000 It was complete and utter chaos there, if there was someone in charge.

02:45:41.000 The normal response units around for a multi-casualty incident, they didn't know.

02:45:48.000 One of the big problems is that so many people in the fire department and the police department are high level.

02:45:53.000 And we're going to go through all this and play more of it tomorrow.

02:45:55.000 We're going to get the host and these individuals on very soon.

02:45:58.000 That's the main priority, Kevin.

02:45:59.000 Get on it.

02:46:00.000 I know you're already on it.

02:46:03.000 Let's be clear.

02:46:04.000 Now when they fall back and say, OK, maybe we did blow it up, then there's no discussion of how it takes weeks to set a building to be imploded.

02:46:12.000 OK?

02:46:14.000 And I remember ABC News when I was in the car that afternoon when it fell.

02:46:20.000 Then I got home and saw the replays.

02:46:22.000 They were announcing Building 7 was on fire.

02:46:24.000 It could fall and damage other buildings.

02:46:26.000 So they want to bring it down.

02:46:27.000 They may bring it down to save other buildings.

02:46:33.000 Everybody heard it.

02:46:33.000 The firemen all heard it.

02:46:34.000 It's hidden in plain view.

02:46:38.000 And it's still denied.

02:46:41.000 People still try to deny it.

02:46:45.000 I've talked to countless firefighters and there have been firefighters in newspapers and magazines that have said it.

02:46:50.000 Bombs going off.

02:46:52.000 They were told to get back.

02:46:53.000 It was going to be brought down.

02:46:56.000 No modern steel building had ever fallen from fire.

02:46:59.000 Three of them did that day.

02:47:00.000 Building 7 not hit by a plane.

02:47:03.000 Play one more time the firefighters talking about the molten steel running down the channel rails like a foundry in Tower 1 and 2.

02:47:08.000 You got that?

02:47:12.000 Because this is so important.

02:47:13.000 Here it is.

02:47:14.000 You'd get down below and you'd see molten steel.

02:47:18.000 Molten steel running down the channel rails.

02:47:20.000 Like you're in a foundry.

02:47:22.000 Yeah.

02:47:23.000 Like lava.

02:47:24.000 Like a volcano.

02:47:25.000 There was a lot of screaming.

02:47:27.000 Now that's Tower 1 and 2 brought down by unconventional demolitions, cutter charges, and blast charges.

02:47:34.000 But then you have Building 7.

02:47:36.000 And when we get back, Kevin McFadden, emergency worker, and what he saw and what he witnessed, So, you want names?

02:47:45.000 There are names right there.

02:47:47.000 And the names go on and on and on.

02:47:49.000 Do you have the clip where they're talking about it looked like it was a controlled demolition as if they had detonators?

02:47:53.000 Boom, boom, boom?

02:47:55.000 Yeah, we'll get that clip too.

02:47:57.000 We'll play that coming out, then we'll play the new clip for you.

02:48:00.000 How's that sound?

02:48:01.000 A fire department situation room filled with firefighters talking about it.

02:48:07.000 Okay?

02:48:08.000 We got two in the computer.

02:48:09.000 Make sure it's the one that's got the cussing cut out, please. 1.00

02:48:12.000 Sometimes we have the raw clip in there too.

02:48:15.000 John working like an octopus with 18 arms.

02:48:20.000 We'll be right back after this quick break.

02:48:23.000 Final segment in the InfoWars Zone.

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02:51:46.000 We made it outside.

02:51:47.000 We made it about a block.

02:51:48.000 We made it at least two blocks, and we started running.

02:51:52.000 Floor by floor, instead of popping out.

02:51:55.000 It was like, it was just, it had to detonate.

02:51:56.000 Yeah, it detonated, yeah.

02:51:57.000 We had a plan to take down a building.

02:51:59.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

02:52:00.000 All the way down.

02:52:01.000 I was watching it, and we're on it.

02:52:02.000 We just ran up west.

02:52:03.000 And then you just sort of, this cloud of...

02:52:08.000 We've got other clips of Dan Rather and Peter Jennings saying it looks like controlled demolition.

02:52:13.000 But here is emergency worker Kevin McFadden on National Radio.

02:52:17.000 Two years ago, we just learned of this, there's so many witnesses talking about the controlled demolition of the buildings.

02:52:23.000 Here it is.

02:52:25.000 It was surreal.

02:52:26.000 It was surreal from the start, like immediately.

02:52:30.000 I went to local stores.

02:52:32.000 I got equipment that I could procure, tools, anything that I could put together, food, and I just ran over the Williamsburg Bridge and ran downtown.

02:52:40.000 Actually, I ran to Bessie Street, Bessie and Church, I believe it was, where I was staging with the Red Cross, and that wound up being like a lot of bureaucracy and nonsense.

02:52:51.000 But even then, they said, hey, you know, you got to stay behind this line because they're thinking about taking this building down.

02:52:57.000 They're not sure if it's stable or not.

02:53:00.000 So they were holding a line off because they had knowledge that something was going to happen.

02:53:05.000 Well, you know, they pushed us back a little bit.

02:53:08.000 About 15 minutes later, they, you know, actually a couple minutes later, they started calming down.

02:53:12.000 They let the border through.

02:53:14.000 People started coming back out into the street.

02:53:17.000 We watched like five New York City buses jam-packed with people wanting to do search and rescue head down there towards Building 7.

02:53:24.000 People walked out into the middle of the street to see these people off like Bon Voyage.

02:53:32.000 And Right then building 7 came down and it was a stampede and people were just mowing people over just trampling I picked a woman up off the ground and I thought I maybe touched her the wrong way and she turned around and took a swing at me and I said no no no you got to run that way like run like you never did before I actually gave her a little kick in the rear

02:53:59.000 It was like about 3 or 4 o'clock in the afternoon on the 11th.

02:54:05.000 I'm not sure exactly about the time because I was there for four and a half days and all I could really attest to with time is that I woke up three times.

02:54:15.000 And everything else was just... And we're going to continue to research these and get these individuals on.

02:54:20.000 Let's be clear now.

02:54:22.000 Let's be crystal clear here.

02:54:25.000 The Feds and Silverstein have tried to implicate the firefighters because they took orders.

02:54:31.000 They told the fire department, i.e.

02:54:33.000 Silverstein and the Feds were running that drill, oh, we don't know if this thing's safe so we're going to go ahead and bring it down so it falls cleanly.

02:54:40.000 And then when you talk about how the fire department said get back, we're going to bring the building down, then the Feds will say, the attack dogs, oh, you're blaming the firefighters for blowing it up.

02:54:48.000 No, they were told get back, they're going to bring it down for safety reasons.

02:54:52.000 So that's Silverstein knowing the stories out there, trying to plant that as an out for himself.

02:54:57.000 As I said four years ago, and this story broke, as I'm still saying today.

02:55:02.000 And, you know, now we need to do this for a long time.

02:55:05.000 Because we've interviewed so many, talked to so many, gotten so many clips.

02:55:07.000 It's in Martial Law.

02:55:09.000 It's in Terror Storm.

02:55:11.000 We just have to go get all the clips, and all the people, and all the news articles, and all the audio clips.

02:55:15.000 There's probably 75 of them.

02:55:17.000 Destination.

02:55:19.000 And post them all in one big motherload story on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:55:24.000 And then you've got to get it and just take it out there and, you know, headline.

02:55:28.000 There can be no doubt.

02:55:30.000 Scores of eyewitnesses told to get back that Building 7 was going to be brought down.

02:55:34.000 Controlled demo.

02:55:35.000 No debating it.

02:55:37.000 Open and shut case.

02:55:38.000 New world order operation.

02:55:39.000 Grand jury should be calling people over for testimonies.

02:55:42.000 Indictments should be zipping out everywhere.

02:55:44.000 And again, people have a mind Conditioning where immediately when they hear they go, okay, well they had to bring it down.

02:55:51.000 Well the point is they lied about it.

02:55:53.000 And they couldn't plant bombs in a few hours.

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Alex Jones Show - February 08, 2007

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