Alex Jones Show - 20070219_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:34.000 Welcome.

00:00:35.000 It is Monday, the 15th day of February 2007.

00:00:39.000 We're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:44.000 In the first hour and a half, we're going to cover all the different news developing across the planet and here domestically in the United States on a host of vital issues.

00:00:54.000 And then we're going to have Dylan Avery, who's becoming quite a frequent guest, to give us his take on the unbelievably Shoddy 9-11 Truth Movement hit piece put out by the BBC that aired yesterday.

00:01:09.000 We'll also be playing some clips of that.

00:01:11.000 And then in the third hour we have the producer, the director of the program himself, who is scheduled.

00:01:18.000 We appreciate him coming on.

00:01:20.000 I gave the guy like a week of my time so he I'm glad he's giving us an hour of his precious time.

00:01:26.000 We'll be joining us coming up in the third hour today, Guy Smith from the BBC.

00:01:35.000 And we're not just covering this because it's about us or the 9-11 Tribune.

00:01:39.000 We're covering it because it's an example of propaganda.

00:01:42.000 It's an example of twisting.

00:01:44.000 This thing was literally off the charts.

00:01:46.000 Paul Watson will also be popping in from England to analyze some of the problems with the BBC piece while Guy Smith is on with us, but I want to give him fair time.

00:02:01.000 Unlike his piece, they had 11 different debunkers on, and only three 9-11 truthers, Jim Fetzer, Dylan Avery, and yours truly, Alejandro Jones.

00:02:14.000 It wasn't up until this morning on Google Video, and by the time I learned it was up, I was able to I watched the whole thing, but I was busy printing stories, answering the telephone, so I... I've got to watch it slowly to write notes.

00:02:30.000 It was just... so much twisting, so much disinfo, so much misrepresentation.

00:02:38.000 It made my head spin.

00:02:39.000 There is an 11-page article, 11-page article, up on PrisonPlanet.com by Paul Watson,

00:02:50.000 I would have the headline, BBC hit piece explodes in enemy's face, or BBC hit piece backfires, but Paul's got BBC hit piece, a tissue of lies, bias, and emotional manipulation, outraged, truth community demands answers from Guy Smith, immediate reactions and apologies urged, savage agenda-driven yellow journalism, an insult to the truth.

00:03:19.000 Pretty darn strong sub-headline.

00:03:22.000 I hope Guy, after I'm sure he admits he tracks the site almost daily, hope he's reading this, hope he still comes on.

00:03:28.000 In fact, Kevin, call him and double-check, because you confirmed Friday afternoon he would be on.

00:03:35.000 I talked to Guy Friday, he said it wasn't a hit piece.

00:03:37.000 Oh no, I promise it's balanced.

00:03:39.000 Though I have an email from him saying, oh I don't agree with you, I don't believe it, and you'll see the piece.

00:03:43.000 And after we concluded our interviews back in August for that week off and on interviews, he started laughing at me.

00:03:50.000 And I think the biggest smoking gun here is that he wouldn't let me bring up Gulf of Tonkin.

00:03:56.000 He wouldn't let me bring up 9-11.

00:03:59.000 Prior knowledge.

00:04:00.000 He wouldn't let me bring up U.S.

00:04:02.000 troops massed in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

00:04:05.000 He wouldn't let me bring up the Northwoods document, which did pertain to this.

00:04:12.000 ABC News headline, U.S.

00:04:14.000 government plan to terrorize U.S.

00:04:16.000 cities as pretext for war with Cuba.

00:04:21.000 Baltimore Sun, similar headline.

00:04:23.000 We have the actual declassified document.

00:04:26.000 Didn't want to discuss that.

00:04:28.000 And that's why they interviewed me for a week off and on and followed me to Dallas, you name it.

00:04:35.000 And I was in the film about three minutes.

00:04:40.000 Oh yeah!

00:04:42.000 Because I wouldn't give them what they wanted.

00:04:47.000 There was one Point in the interview, the last interview I did, well I'll tell you about it when we get back and then we'll get into all the news.

00:04:55.000 I'm Alex Jones, stay with me.

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00:07:58.000 Big Brother.

00:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 I just watched an audio clip of Glenn Beck last Friday.

00:08:31.000 Bye.

00:08:32.000 Spill his guts about the New World Order and shadow government.

00:08:38.000 But it's not what it seems from the neocon in sheep's clothing. 0.81

00:08:45.000 Of course, he can totally convert to the truth if he'd like and repent of being an operative, but I...

00:08:50.000 Just wait until you hear the clip.

00:08:51.000 It's very sneaky.

00:08:52.000 That's coming up later in the shower.

00:08:54.000 We're going to play, to analyze them, a couple of BBC News clips from the unbelievable hit piece that I just had a chance to see via Google Video this morning.

00:09:04.000 Dylan Avery, Paul Watson will be responding, and we have the producer, the director, the Cheshire Cat himself, Guy Smith, joining us from BBC headquarters.

00:09:16.000 We just talked to him during the break.

00:09:17.000 He will be on in the third hour.

00:09:20.000 With us, and I will see if he can contain himself from snickering and giggling, which seems to be his trademark when I had a chance to spend a week with him.

00:09:29.000 And we are declaring war on Hearst Publishing, the BBC, and all other organs of clear, classical, yellow journalism, and we're going to decipher every micron of their propaganda in the next week to come, because this is important, Again, excellent piece by Paul Watson, BBC hit piece, A Tissue of Lies, Bias and Emotional Manipulation.

00:09:51.000 This is the most lengthy article yet, and there are already hundreds of people are hopping mad about this.

00:09:57.000 I mean, every 9-11 truth site out there is doing their own analysis.

00:10:01.000 It's excellent.

00:10:02.000 Paul has got an 11-pager.

00:10:04.000 An 11-pager he wrote over last night into this morning from England.

00:10:12.000 And you need to go read it for yourself and dig it.

00:10:15.000 That is, go post it on the dig site, get it out to everybody out there.

00:10:19.000 We have got to stand up against this affront to the truth.

00:10:23.000 We have to do it energetically and aggressively.

00:10:27.000 So, that is coming up.

00:10:30.000 In other news, top bin Laden expert, confession is fake.

00:10:35.000 We'll go over that.

00:10:37.000 Also, UN urge to take on asteroid threat.

00:10:41.000 We'll get into that PSYOP.

00:10:44.000 We'll also talk about Palm Beach Police using license tag scanners.

00:10:49.000 And we'll integrate that with some other important news reports here concerning Big Brother.

00:10:56.000 But let me just briefly get back into the BBC because I promise to and then we won't cover it again unless you call in about it until the middle of the next hour.

00:11:05.000 Guy Smith interviewed me again for a week, off and on, at my office, at my other office, at the other broadcast studio, in Dallas, at Dealey Plaza, it just went on and on.

00:11:17.000 I would have to imagine he probably shot, I don't know, 20 hours with me?

00:11:27.000 20 hours condensed down to 3 minutes in the film.

00:11:34.000 And for everybody out there who's writing pieces now, debunking the BBC debunk piece, you need to understand, I am an eyewitness to this.

00:11:41.000 He said, we are not going to put Northwoods in, we're not going to let you discuss it, we're not putting Gulf of Tonkin in, we're not putting any real examples of our government claiming they were attacked, the government staging attacks against itself, or the government planning to stage attacks.

00:11:58.000 Now, wouldn't that be important for a piece about 9-11 truth?

00:12:04.000 And it's because of behavior like that that Popular Mechanics and BBC and all these other government organs, BBC is publicly government, Popular Mechanics has been government ever since it was founded.

00:12:16.000 It's because of behavior like that that your hit piece is going to cause more people to wake up.

00:12:21.000 Guaranteed!

00:12:23.000 Without a shadow of a doubt.

00:12:24.000 Because you attack the truth with lies and half-truths and straw men, people are going to go investigate.

00:12:31.000 It's only going to interest them more, and then they're going to find out they were lied to, and they're going to get very, very angry.

00:12:38.000 So people are mad about this piece, and you should be, but take that anger and put it into the important work of getting the truth out.

00:12:45.000 And that starts with going and getting the pieces that have been written, analyzing this propaganda, and emailing it, posting it to every Every sector and every corner and every region of the internet.

00:12:59.000 It's very important to do that.

00:13:01.000 But I knew, out of the 20 hours, probably more, of interviews, I knew one clip that was going to be in the piece.

00:13:09.000 And sure enough, this morning, I hurriedly scanned through it, watching it, and guess what was in there of my meager three minutes of the piece?

00:13:18.000 The final time they interviewed me was a Sunday night when I was starting the syndicated show out of the KLBJ studios and they put me in the business offices and I was sitting there in a suit sitting on the back of a chair.

00:13:32.000 They said it looked more official and he started taunting me and trying to get me to get mad and get upset.

00:13:39.000 He knew that I had to go and meet my wife for dinner.

00:13:41.000 He was going with us with his crew and instead of 30 minutes it went on for almost two hours.

00:13:49.000 And then I had to sneeze in the middle of talking, and I knew I couldn't say, oh, excuse me, I've got to sneeze.

00:13:54.000 That would be in there.

00:13:55.000 So I fight back the sneeze, and I go ahead and talk about Flight 93, but I hesitate, and my eyes water a bit, and I thought, man, that looked like I was stumbling on that question.

00:14:06.000 That will be in there.

00:14:07.000 So I said it again.

00:14:09.000 I said, let me say that again.

00:14:11.000 And I said it again.

00:14:12.000 Of course, when I said it again, that isn't what was put in there.

00:14:15.000 No, when I had to sneeze, but fought back the sneeze.

00:14:19.000 And again, I knew.

00:14:19.000 I said, this will be in there.

00:14:21.000 This is a hit piece.

00:14:22.000 Sure enough, it was.

00:14:23.000 They were getting so frustrated and so angry that day after day, they couldn't get me Picking at my arm, or they couldn't get me scratching at my ear, they couldn't get me... I know all their tricks.

00:14:40.000 They couldn't get me blinking, they couldn't get me stumbling, they couldn't... I mean, it was just all basically soundbites continually fired out at them on a hundred other facets and issues concerning 9-11.

00:14:54.000 And that's why I am, of the three people in there, I am the smallest portion of that.

00:15:01.000 But they lied to me, just like popular mechanics.

00:15:09.000 Oh, we promise it's not a hit piece.

00:15:10.000 We promise it's going to be balanced.

00:15:12.000 Balanced is not eleven people with the government story and three people questioning it.

00:15:23.000 Balanced is not, hey, the one thing I want to get across is that our government overthrew Iran by staging terror attacks in 53, our government staged attacks on the destroyers of the Gulf of Tonkin in 64, declassified.

00:15:36.000 Here's the Associated Press.

00:15:37.000 I gave them the news articles.

00:15:39.000 I made a big two-inch thick file for them.

00:15:43.000 They would just smile and giggle about it.

00:15:46.000 I want Northwoods to be in there.

00:15:47.000 Those three issues, no, no, no, no, no.

00:15:53.000 It's just like going into court and not being able to put on your evidence.

00:16:00.000 But don't worry, in the court of public opinion, your piece will air and it will air all over the world, and people will go into our websites and they'll find out the truth, and they will discover Who's really putting out the truth.

00:16:13.000 They will discover what you've done.

00:16:16.000 So again, you dig a pit for us to fall into it, you fall into it yourself.

00:16:21.000 Just like the Bible says.

00:16:23.000 There have been people here locally who have dug pits for myself and others, and they're the ones that fall into their own pits, and then they try to accuse me of digging the pit.

00:16:33.000 No.

00:16:34.000 No.

00:16:34.000 The BBC dug the pit.

00:16:36.000 Popular Mechanics dug the pit.

00:16:39.000 And some of the other people that I've dealt with dig their own pits and then they crawl into the pits themselves.

00:16:50.000 And I, again, there's just so many points to this.

00:16:53.000 Let's get into this report first.

00:16:59.000 And I've got two different ones here on this subject.

00:17:06.000 One of them Headlined, UN Urge to Take Action on Asteroid Threat.

00:17:12.000 Another similar headline here, out of the Reuters.

00:17:15.000 An asteroid may come uncomfortably close to Earth in 2036, and the United Nations should assume responsibility for a space mission to deflect it, a group of astronauts, engineers, and scientists said on Saturday.

00:17:35.000 Now you'll probably remember about six years ago I interviewed Mrs. Shoemaker, whose husband died in a car wreck, Mr. Shoemaker, who discovered Shoemaker-Levy, the comet that broke into five pieces and rammed into Jupiter, one chunk of it exploding with the power

00:17:57.000 of tens of thousands of hydrogen bombs, giant black spots visible through binoculars on a clear night, five huge black explosion marks, one of them very close to the size of the Great Red Spot on Jupiter.

00:18:16.000 And you're saying, what does that have to do with this report?

00:18:20.000 It's because of my amateur astronomy behavior, and I took astronomy in college, and again, my dad's got a big telescope, I've got a medium-sized one, that I know a little bit about asteroids, meteors, planetoids, comets, and I have interviewed some of the leading experts in the world on the subject, and it was in that

00:18:50.000 astronomy buff position of actual, really, entertainment for myself, that I watched a Discovery Channel program, and I believe the other one was a PBS Nova program, years ago, and I learned in those pieces that the U.S.

00:19:09.000 government, the Russian government, and the shoemakers were there as well, along with Mr. Levy and others, Shoemakers have discovered like three major comets.

00:19:20.000 They're just incredible people.

00:19:24.000 It was through that that I learned of this plan.

00:19:30.000 I didn't learn it off some conspiracy website.

00:19:33.000 I didn't learn about it on the back of a Cracker Jack box.

00:19:38.000 They admit this.

00:19:40.000 This is staged.

00:19:44.000 Not the comet that slammed in.

00:19:46.000 to Jupiter, but the response to this threat is staged, and I'll briefly break that down on the other side, then we'll get into a bunch of other important news.

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00:24:00.000 Big debate coming up with the master of the hit piece, Guy Smith, from the bowels of the British Broadcasting, Tomisariot, in the third hour.

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00:24:38.000 Alright, getting back to U.N.

00:24:40.000 urge to take action on asteroid threat.

00:24:42.000 This is out of Reuters.

00:24:43.000 An asteroid may come uncomfortably close to Earth.

00:24:45.000 May come uncomfortably close to Earth in 2036.

00:24:48.000 And the United Nations should assume responsibility for a space mission to deflect it.

00:24:55.000 A group of astronauts, engineers and scientists said on Saturday, astronomers are monitoring an asteroid named Apophis, which has a 1 in 45,000 chance of striking Earth on April 13, 2036.

00:25:12.000 Although the odds of an impact by this particular asteroid are low, a recent congressional mandate for NASA to upgrade its tracking of near-Earth asteroids is expected to uncover hundreds, if not thousands, of threatening space rocks in the near future, former astronaut Rusty Sweckhardt said.

00:25:30.000 It's not just Apophis we're looking at.

00:25:32.000 Is that some connection to Apocalypse?

00:25:37.000 Every country is at risk.

00:25:38.000 We need a set of general principles to deal with this issue, he said.

00:25:41.000 A member of the Apollo 9 crew that orbited the moon in March of 1969 told the American Association for the Advancement of Science Conference in San Francisco.

00:25:51.000 Schweckart plans to present an updated next week to the UN Committee on Peaceful Uses of Outer Space on plans to develop a blueprint for global response to an asteroid threat.

00:26:01.000 And of course, there are several facets to this.

00:26:06.000 Being somewhat of a buff on this subject, I have seen a NOVA special and a Discovery Channel special.

00:26:15.000 And read a bunch of news articles over the years.

00:26:18.000 I've seen video of UN meetings with Russians, Japanese, European Space Agency, NASA.

00:26:25.000 And they're all meeting saying this is a great way to unite the Earth under the United Nations to defend the planet from the threat of these asteroids and comets.

00:26:36.000 We've got to put powerful nuclear weapons or particle beams in space that can destroy these asteroids. 0.86

00:26:46.000 So on the surface, it'll be a big hyped-up deal with the United Nations defending the Earth, the planet coming together, humans coming together to the outside threat, and Kissinger wrote about that in documents and it's in the report on Iron Mountain.

00:27:02.000 It came out that the Sci-Fi Channel had federal government funding and Clinton's former chief of staff involved in a program to propagandize that we must all come together to fight the extraterrestrials, i.e., again, back to H.G.

00:27:16.000 Wells, one of their top futurists, War of the Worlds.

00:27:20.000 But that's only one facet to this.

00:27:22.000 This is also an excuse for the United Nations to weaponize space Because these weapons that can be turned outward can just as easily be turned inward.

00:27:35.000 With particle beams, missiles, and of course their main weapon, huge, solid, depleted uranium

00:27:46.000 projectiles that are rocket-assisted out of orbital platforms or space planes and dropped into gravity wells to accelerate to over 25,000 miles an hour, having the same effect in their distribution of energy as a medium-sized hydrogen nuclear bomb.

00:28:12.000 And I've had discussions with the former head of Star Wars program.

00:28:16.000 I remember at the 9-11 Neo-Conagena Symposium in L.A., I talked to Bowman, Dr. Bob Bowman, for about an hour behind the scenes.

00:28:22.000 He said, look, I can't tell you anything classified, but I can tell you what they've slipped up and said.

00:28:30.000 And he said, one time I was in a debate with one of the current heads of Star Wars, and he just went ahead and admitted that they had these robotic space planes and these DU projectiles.

00:28:43.000 Like a meteor gun, basically.

00:28:45.000 But you take something with that mass, and you accelerate it, using the gravity well, with a rocket assist, and you fire a hypersonic missile, with a DU tip, into the Earth's gravity well, at the proper angulation, it's just unbelievable.

00:29:01.000 And I said, obviously there's not humans piloting those, and he said, no, it's space planes.

00:29:06.000 Robotic space planes.

00:29:07.000 They're up there, flying around, right now, uh... in the edge of space and in space itself and uh... that's what's happening they can decapitate the entire leadership of the planet if they can ever target exactly where they're all at once I've been told there's another of these space planes and Jane's Weapons Quarterly has reported on it too they told you what four years before the B-2 bomber was rolled out about it of course that thing was in service back in the seventies

00:29:37.000 They still say the SR-71 Blackbird, developed in 1955, is the fastest plane in the world.

00:29:44.000 Do you think a plane from 1955 is still the fastest?

00:29:47.000 Do you really believe that?

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:02.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

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00:33:10.000 We're going to have open phones today.

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00:33:25.000 Or if you want to comment on what's happening with the build-up for war with Iran or the UN.

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00:33:47.000 Before I get back into the news, there's a lot of big things we want to do here at this office.

00:33:53.000 And for about a year, I've just been so busy making films and doing other things, I haven't had time to launch a plan I've had for a long time.

00:34:03.000 Basically, it's no secret, an internet portal And by portal, I wanted to have all the functions that the major portals have.

00:34:14.000 I'm going to have to hire three or four people to do it.

00:34:17.000 I'm in the process.

00:34:18.000 I have the space.

00:34:19.000 I have two of the people hired.

00:34:21.000 I need to hire two more. 0.83

00:34:22.000 Please don't send me a million requests or your resumes.

00:34:28.000 I haven't gotten to that point yet.

00:34:29.000 I'm so busy trying to make another film, do this radio show, do other radio interviews.

00:34:34.000 Manage things.

00:34:35.000 Pay the bills.

00:34:36.000 Take out the trash.

00:34:38.000 Make dinner.

00:34:40.000 You know what life's like.

00:34:42.000 I'm not complaining.

00:34:42.000 I'm just letting you know that my big frustration in life is I can't do everything I want to do.

00:34:49.000 But it will.

00:34:49.000 I mean, I'm so busy fighting the New World Order, folks, that I get advertising requests every day.

00:34:55.000 And if I pick the phone up and call and sell the person for five minutes, I can have advertisers on the websites, on the radio show.

00:35:03.000 I'm so busy That I don't even have time to do that, much less even hire somebody to be a salesman.

00:35:11.000 And I know I should just get that done.

00:35:12.000 I should worry about financial stuff first and then get into all the nuts and bolts later.

00:35:22.000 But the best way to support us so we can do all these things that we want to do and fight the New World Order at an even higher level, and you know we've been effective with God's help.

00:35:33.000 All the glory goes to God.

00:35:35.000 Please help us.

00:35:37.000 And you do that, it's very simple.

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00:35:58.000 And then, I can do everything I want to do easily.

00:36:02.000 Because that's our goal here.

00:36:04.000 That's what we're into.

00:36:05.000 Everybody's got something that floats their boat.

00:36:07.000 Everybody's got something that's their passion.

00:36:09.000 My passion is standing up to tyranny.

00:36:11.000 I am addicted.

00:36:12.000 I am obsessed.

00:36:13.000 I am literally energized with the spirit of resistance to this tyranny.

00:36:20.000 Every fiber in my body.

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00:37:23.000 When you move, when you take action, when you stand up, when you get involved in little ways, those grow into big things.

00:37:33.000 And all of us together instantly become something huge, and that's why the New World Order is literally panicking and admitting in Popular Mechanics and BBC and Vanity Fair and the New York Post that we have convinced the majority of the public that we're winning.

00:37:50.000 We're winning on the Second Amendment issues.

00:37:52.000 We're winning on the borders.

00:37:54.000 That is for the hearts and minds.

00:37:55.000 They're still getting rid of them.

00:37:56.000 We're winning when it comes to the NAFTA highways, to the North American Union, We can have a reprieve for a time to wake up more people if we take action.

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00:38:25.000 I'm Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas 78704.

00:38:33.000 Now let me shift gears on this subject before we play a clip and go to your calls and cover other news.

00:38:38.000 And talk about Anna Nicole Smith and Britney Spears.

00:38:45.000 No, I'm not joking.

00:38:47.000 I'm serious.

00:38:48.000 When Anna Nicole Smith died a week and a half ago, we haven't mentioned it, have we?

00:38:53.000 When Britney Spears, over the weekend, shaved off all her hair, and that was top story, not to build up for war with Iran, I didn't cover it Sunday.

00:39:03.000 But last night, eating dinner with my family, I thought of those two women.

00:39:10.000 And so now I'll share with you why I'm bringing them up.

00:39:14.000 You have a woman, Anna Nicole Smith, who's beautiful, who's intelligent, and she was intelligent.

00:39:23.000 I've seen interviews with her 10, 15 years ago.

00:39:25.000 She was just completely drugged out every time you saw her. 1.00

00:39:28.000 Who had everything.

00:39:29.000 Who was a billionaire from her marriage and who had made tens of millions of dollars a year from modeling films and perfume lines. 0.99

00:39:38.000 She had a healthy, happy son.

00:39:40.000 She'd had a new daughter.

00:39:42.000 Her son died, obviously, of drugs.

00:39:45.000 She died of drugs, or foul play, who knows, of the people she was running with.

00:39:50.000 Why do I bring her up?

00:39:55.000 Well, what would it profit a man to gain the whole world, but lose his eternal soul?

00:40:04.000 You look at people like Anna Nicole Smith, You look at people like Britney Spears, made hundreds of millions of dollars, in and out of rehab, completely unhappy, going crazy, getting tattoos all over her body, and shaving her head saying, help me, help me, and I don't think that was a stunt.

00:40:23.000 I looked into her eyes on the video of her in that tattoo parlor, and she was completely out of her gourd. 1.00

00:40:33.000 Completely whacked out.

00:40:36.000 Totally unhappy.

00:40:38.000 I know people in Hollywood that know her.

00:40:40.000 Totally unhappy.

00:40:41.000 All the drugs, all the liquor, all the sex, all the Bentley's, all the 20 bedroom homes.

00:40:49.000 It's not going to make her happy.

00:40:52.000 And then I just thought about myself.

00:40:56.000 I frankly am too happy.

00:40:58.000 Too satisfied.

00:40:59.000 I'm so satisfied I get to the point where I don't even care how I look.

00:41:03.000 In the past I did, I was more vain.

00:41:06.000 I think there's a balance to everything in life.

00:41:08.000 I think I've gone too far in the other direction.

00:41:13.000 I am so fulfilled.

00:41:14.000 I mean, last night I left the Sunday show I did at 6 o'clock.

00:41:17.000 I'm driving home and I'm up on the overpasses and I see one of the most beautiful and spectacular sunsets I've ever seen with gold and silver and red and orange and purple just shooting out indescribable beauty.

00:41:33.000 And the green trees, and just the glint of the cars, and the highway, and I thought, here I am driving 70 miles an hour, this feeling of exhilaration on an open road with almost no traffic, and there's blackbirds, grackles, and starlings, and clouds in the skies, and I rolled down the windows and felt the 60 degree air just wash over me, and I just was thanking God!

00:42:00.000 I mean, Last night it was a beautiful night sky, dotted clouds like popcorn, and stars and planets.

00:42:12.000 I was walking around outside in the cold, dew-lit grass.

00:42:20.000 I was just carrying the trash out and I was just such a blessing to even be alive and to see all of this and to be able to go to the woods and sit on a blanket with binoculars and watch gophers dig out their holes and squirrels and eagles land in a tree and owls and robins and to just I mean it's we are so blessed there is so much good in the world

00:42:48.000 But last night at about 7 o'clock I sat down to have dinner with my wife and children and I looked at their glowing, happy, innocent faces.

00:42:57.000 They looked like cherubs.

00:42:59.000 And they were eating with gusto and happy and their eyes were alive with life force and electricity.

00:43:07.000 and I looked at my beautiful wife and then after dinner my children were making up songs for like an hour singing and they were playing with Legos and building Tyrannosaurus Rex's you know my two-year-old with Legos just built something with just like a Tyrannosaurus and said look and my son was building rockets they were building cities with blocks and and and it was just and they were singing making up these funny songs and they were so happy and I just thought

00:43:37.000 God has just blessed all of us so much.

00:43:42.000 I know myself more than most.

00:43:45.000 And I just am completely humbled and blown away and it makes me just feel like dirty rags compared to God's incredible creation and what He's given us.

00:43:59.000 And then I just thought about how sad Anna Nicole Smith is.

00:44:03.000 I thought about how sad Britney Spears is.

00:44:05.000 I thought about all these rich and powerful people that I've had a chance to get to know, and how so many times they're completely unhappy unless they're into whatever issue fulfills them.

00:44:16.000 You know, trying to save the environment, or trying to stand up for sovereignty, or being informed about 9-11.

00:44:21.000 You know, they have a passion.

00:44:23.000 They're involved.

00:44:24.000 They want to make the world a better place.

00:44:25.000 They're happy.

00:44:26.000 If they're not, they're totally unhappy.

00:44:30.000 There's another type of individual who's evil who likes power and the exercise of power.

00:44:34.000 They could care less about a sunset.

00:44:36.000 They could care less about beautiful art.

00:44:39.000 They could care less about just all the kaleidoscope of colors and smells and taste and touch and feelings in our world.

00:44:48.000 And there's the endless palette of so many shades you can't even... so many shades of three dimension you can't even comprehend it.

00:44:58.000 You can just feel it in your soul.

00:45:02.000 I thought about the evil.

00:45:03.000 They've gone so far into darkness and destruction that they've always got to go one level deeper just to even have any feeling.

00:45:15.000 And they revel in trying to hurt people, and they revel in trying to control people, and they revel in destroying happiness and goodness.

00:45:27.000 Watching the actions of elites throughout history and the more things change the more they stay the same.

00:45:31.000 Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat them.

00:45:33.000 Because humans act the same.

00:45:34.000 We are always the same.

00:45:38.000 There's nothing new under the sun.

00:45:39.000 There's different projections of old.

00:45:43.000 Different configurations of what already was.

00:45:48.000 You say the computers knew.

00:45:49.000 No.

00:45:50.000 What is the mind?

00:45:54.000 So, Again, Madison Avenue are masters of making us feel inadequate, making us feel like we don't matter, making us feel like because we don't have the trappings and because we don't have the logos of success that we aren't successful.

00:46:18.000 And then so we've got to go to them and watch their television commercials and find out how we're inadequate to then go basically slave and work for them to buy things that don't even matter to the globalists.

00:46:30.000 They just produce these baubles to then hand them out to us like tin medals that Napoleon would hand out and he bragged that look at how men will throw themselves on the ends of pikes just to get a piece of tin.

00:46:46.000 That's all it is, is these little tricks they learned, but more and more sophisticated, being used against us.

00:46:52.000 I mean, the world is just going by, past you, while you're mesmerized by the television and by the culture and by this overall fraud.

00:47:04.000 So I really think we start defeating the New World Order by humbling ourselves and by looking at the beauty around us, looking at the blessings around us, and then Tapping into the greater whole and having an attitude of sacrifice, having an attitude of the servant, having the attitude of submission to what is right. 0.71

00:47:26.000 And by submitting to right, it means you resist the wrong.

00:47:31.000 And the more you go down this path, and you're still going to be a bad person, you're still going to be fallen, you're still going to have problems, but by always striving To be better, by always striving to be more appreciative, by always striving to be more meek, by always striving to stand up for the defenseless, you will become stronger and stronger and stronger and more fulfilled.

00:47:57.000 And your mind will open up to the world, your discernment, your understanding will increase exponentially.

00:48:08.000 And I am just so sad because I'm a very sharing person and I've always taken great pleasure in others having pleasure.

00:48:19.000 I enjoy others having pleasure.

00:48:22.000 I enjoy others having a good time.

00:48:25.000 I enjoy others being fulfilled.

00:48:27.000 And I see so many out there who are jealous and envious and self-centered and they wonder why they're so unhappy and they are They are envious.

00:48:38.000 They are hateful of others that are successful.

00:48:40.000 They think they have to tear everyone down around them so they can be successful.

00:48:44.000 That's what David Rockefeller is all about.

00:48:46.000 That's what Queen Elizabeth is all about. 0.99

00:48:49.000 That's what Queen Beatrix is all about. 1.00

00:48:51.000 That's what Lord Rothschild is all about.

00:48:55.000 They're all about damaging people.

00:48:58.000 They're all about dumbing people down.

00:49:01.000 I mean, to me, that's the ultimate sin.

00:49:03.000 Trying to warp people, trying to damage people, trying to hurt innocents.

00:49:09.000 I mean, how could you not want to build for human potential?

00:49:12.000 How could you not want to construct beautiful things?

00:49:14.000 How could you not want to help others and have camaraderie and to collaborate?

00:49:20.000 How could you not want to be part of that and part of the human experience?

00:49:27.000 Well, most people really do, deep down, want to do that, but they've been taught how to be evil.

00:49:32.000 They've been taught how to be self-centered.

00:49:34.000 They've been taught how to be cynical.

00:49:36.000 They've been taught how to serve power and corruption.

00:49:41.000 And they're losing out in this one life to live.

00:49:44.000 They're losing out on this one time on this planet.

00:49:47.000 They're losing out on this one-time, one-shot experience, and it's being stolen from them.

00:49:53.000 I want you, all of you, to be successful and live well.

00:50:04.000 It tears my heart out to think that right now children are being given their final round of vaccines at 18 months that will cause them to go into a coma state or into deep autism.

00:50:15.000 It tears my heart out to know right now black children, predominantly all over this country, are being taken from their parents to have pesticides and experimental drugs tested on them until they, in many cases, die.

00:50:31.000 It tears my guts out to know right now a small child in Russia is being kidnapped out of their house to be flown to Saudi Arabia for a snuff film.

00:50:41.000 It tears my guts out that evil is being practiced right out in front of us.

00:50:45.000 And many people have been so bathed in wickedness they can't even recognize evil when they see it on television shows like 24 Torture Children.

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00:53:59.000 Oh, I, mother, should I build the wall?

00:54:13.000 Mother, should I run for president?

00:54:22.000 Mother, should I trust the government?

00:54:38.000 Mother, will they put me in the fire-riffed light? will they put me in the fire-riffed light?

00:55:07.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:55:12.000 Amen.

00:55:13.000 Thank you.

00:55:15.000 Thank you.

00:55:16.000 Went into preacher mode earlier.

00:55:21.000 George Bush is going to put all his fears into you.

00:55:24.000 Roll it.

00:55:25.000 Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true. 1.00

00:55:31.000 Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Mama's gonna keep you right here under her own wing. 1.00

00:55:41.000 She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing.

00:55:46.000 All right.

00:55:48.000 Ray, Andrew, John, Wendy, others, we're going to get to your calls.

00:55:51.000 We'll take your calls right through to the bottom of the hour.

00:55:54.000 There's so much other news here, like the New York Post.

00:55:56.000 Those who oppose Surge in Congress are guilty of treason.

00:55:59.000 It's getting scary.

00:56:00.000 We'll go over that.

00:56:01.000 I got a bunch of police state news I will get to, I've got to get to.

00:56:04.000 I didn't cover it yesterday, ran out of time.

00:56:06.000 Right now, let's go to Ray in Texas.

00:56:08.000 Thanks for holding her on the air worldwide.

00:56:10.000 Hey Alex, you were talking about the so-called space plane?

00:56:14.000 Yes sir.

00:56:15.000 Okay, if you do a Google search and look up T as in Tom, R as in Ray, 3, and then B as in boy, you will It's called the TR-3B.

00:56:27.000 Yeah, NASA admits they've been secretly developing it and they'll show artist renditions for 25 years.

00:56:32.000 They've got big ones, little ones, cargo carriers, attack craft, they've got the Black Manta, they've got the Aurora, there's a bunch of them.

00:56:42.000 If you go to YouTube and look up Phoenix UFO, it'll pull up 10 years ago.

00:56:49.000 Remember that big UFO over Phoenix that everybody saw?

00:56:52.000 You have the giant V-Craft and stuff?

00:56:54.000 Yes, yes.

00:56:54.000 That was a TR-3B.

00:56:56.000 They were moving in from Area 51 to Area 52.

00:57:01.000 There's no doubt they have it.

00:57:02.000 I mean, Jane's Weapons Quarterly is never wrong, in my experience, and they say for two decades they've had space planes.

00:57:09.000 We have a fleet of them up in orbit right now.

00:57:11.000 The space shuttle keeps sighting them.

00:57:14.000 Fox keeps blowing it up as space debris.

00:57:17.000 They'll say at the first of the day, oh, there's a UFO in the same orbit as the shuttle.

00:57:23.000 Now, see, you lose me there.

00:57:24.000 What do you mean the space shuttle's fighting them?

00:57:27.000 No, no, I said they're siding them.

00:57:29.000 They see them.

00:57:30.000 Oh, yeah, siding them.

00:57:31.000 Sorry, your phone's breaking up.

00:57:33.000 Yeah, somebody's trying to get through to me.

00:57:35.000 They can wait.

00:57:37.000 Anyway, they keep siding them, and you can find it on YouTube also.

00:57:41.000 No, I've seen the famous videos out of the shuttle where you see stuff flying around, and they go, oh, it's green men. 0.58

00:57:47.000 No, it's black ops.

00:57:49.000 They report it on CNN, and then Fox blows it off.

00:57:54.000 It's funny, because CNN will report it, and then Fox will report it, but then Fox will blow it off.

00:57:58.000 I hear you, and I appreciate your call.

00:57:59.000 It's a good point.

00:58:01.000 But it's not just the space planes.

00:58:02.000 There's all this advanced technology that's been developed, that's been kept secret.

00:58:06.000 Again, the SR-71 Blackbird, built in 1954, in service a few years later, by 55, is not the fastest plane at Mach 3.5 or whatever.

00:58:19.000 That is just ridiculous. 0.87

00:58:22.000 Absolutely ridiculous. 0.96

00:58:24.000 And you look at all these sightings they see in New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, California, Nevada, and it's exactly what NASA said 30 years ago they were going to build. 0.53

00:58:36.000 They're just keeping it secret from the public.

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00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:47.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:49.000 You want answers?

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00:58:58.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:00.000 You want answers?

00:59:01.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:03.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:12.000 Now into hour number two.

00:59:15.000 Big debate with the BBC hit piece, Captain Guy Smith, coming on in the third hour.

00:59:22.000 Middle and Avery to comment on it before he joins us in 30 minutes.

00:59:26.000 Continuing with open phones, tons of news.

00:59:28.000 Let's go to Andrew in Missouri.

00:59:31.000 Thanks for holding your on the air worldwide Yeah, I want to talk about the oil companies and their currency of petrochemicals.

00:59:41.000 The oil companies and their currency of petrochemicals.

00:59:45.000 Sir, your phone disconnected.

00:59:47.000 You're welcome to try to call back in.

00:59:50.000 John in New York, you're on the air.

00:59:52.000 Welcome.

00:59:53.000 Hey Alex, thanks for having me.

00:59:54.000 You bet.

00:59:56.000 I watched the BBC thing and it always, I'm sorry, it brought up something that I've always questioned about.

01:00:01.000 On the second impact of the planes on the World Trade Centers, all the videos record something happening.

01:00:08.000 When the plane impacts, it looks like on the opposite side of the towers when the plane impacted, it looks like something was ejected from the building.

01:00:17.000 And this object that came out has this smoke trail that has a little corkscrew formation to it, and it actually looks like Some sort of a missile or a pod coming out the outside.

01:00:27.000 Well, I mean, when you've got a plane at 560 miles an hour slamming into a building, pieces are going to accelerate out the other end.

01:00:33.000 Right.

01:00:34.000 So it just looks like aircraft flying into a building to me.

01:00:37.000 Right.

01:00:38.000 That was just something I was curious about.

01:00:39.000 I also wanted to comment on Britney Spears, if I may real quick.

01:00:43.000 Sure.

01:00:43.000 Her shaving her head, I think that's her saying, all right, I can't take much more of this.

01:00:48.000 I think she's tired of the spotlight, so she needs to lash out. 1.00

01:00:52.000 And this seems to be the way she decided too.

01:00:56.000 Well, she's admittedly in rehab and got a lot of problems.

01:01:00.000 My point is that they're totally unhappy people because they thought power and success was the answer to everything and it's not.

01:01:07.000 Shame, it really is.

01:01:09.000 That's why I brought it up.

01:01:14.000 Even a person living in a one-room apartment has got enough to eat.

01:01:16.000 I mean, just to go out to the park and feast your eyes on the life and to see the sky.

01:01:21.000 I mean, it's an incredible experience.

01:01:23.000 Oh, definitely.

01:01:23.000 I mean, maybe something's wrong with me, but I just am just, like, unbelievably happy and thankful.

01:01:29.000 Oh, I know.

01:01:30.000 Just simple things like that are just...

01:01:32.000 Waking up and watching the sunrise itself, too.

01:01:34.000 I mean, that's fulfilling in itself.

01:01:36.000 Just think about life.

01:01:37.000 A beautiful sunrise, a cup of coffee, your family, good food.

01:01:42.000 I mean, the simple things of life are a good walk.

01:01:46.000 Oh, I know.

01:01:47.000 I see some things about her upon occasions on the Internet.

01:01:50.000 I mean, she's running around with Paris Hilton, partying, this and that. 0.99

01:01:53.000 I think it's starting to catch up with Brittany.

01:01:55.000 I mean, she's been in the spotlight as far back as she can recall.

01:02:00.000 I should say, I hope she doesn't turn out to be another Michael Jackson or something like that.

01:02:05.000 Well, also, these women that are only obsessed with their beauty instead of families and life and living, then when they, quote, lose their looks, I don't think women ever lose their looks. 0.99

01:02:15.000 There's something beautiful, just like an old oak tree about an old woman.

01:02:21.000 Again, they just don't understand.

01:02:22.000 And it's the same thing with men.

01:02:24.000 Men think it's this petty male thing of acting tough and being aggressive, but not aggressive on the issues that matter.

01:02:32.000 You know, you're a man because you get drunk and watch football.

01:02:35.000 You made a good point on one of your weekly reports.

01:02:37.000 You say, oh, these gold-digging women, they love these rich guys who are going to go bankrupt in two years. 0.99

01:02:42.000 They just don't see it.

01:02:43.000 That was a really good point you brought up.

01:02:46.000 Well, I appreciate your comments, sir.

01:02:47.000 Anything else?

01:02:49.000 Buffalo, New York loves you, Al.

01:02:51.000 Well, we love you guys up there.

01:02:53.000 How are you listening to us there?

01:02:55.000 I'm on the internet as we speak.

01:02:57.000 Because there is an affiliate that goes into the edge of Buffalo.

01:03:01.000 I know we have two affiliates in upstate New York, which you might dial around.

01:03:05.000 I forget the call letters, but listen, I really appreciate your call.

01:03:09.000 Take care.

01:03:10.000 We're going to break and come back and go to Wendy and others.

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01:03:16.000 We're going to play this Glenn Beck clip coming up as well and analyze it.

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01:06:59.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:04.000 Alright, we're going to go back to your calls here in a few minutes, but first I want to play part of this Glenn Beck piece from CNN and analyze it.

01:07:09.000 And you definitely know Lou Dobbs, you definitely know Countdown with Keith Uberman.

01:07:18.000 He gets up on the air and he talks about how Iran's going to nuke us and they snuck nukes across and we've got to attack them. 0.99

01:07:24.000 But then he'll mix in the North American Union might not be a good idea and things like that I guess to keep some credibility because he's not stupid, you know, for the audiences. 0.57

01:07:36.000 But listen to this piece very very clearly.

01:07:39.000 You think he's attacking Bush and he is at a certain level but there's several points you'll probably pick up on That he's not really doing what he claims he's doing.

01:07:48.000 here's glenn back friday night c_n_n_ well here real story i have been uh...

01:07:53.000 homesick for the last couple of days i don't stop the applause uh...

01:07:58.000 beginning time to do some thinking i thought a lot about a ran i thought a lot about anna nicole and her poor little baby but most of all and i think i think to admit this about but i've got this growing feeling uh...

01:08:11.000 that our government is just not being honest with us anymore Everywhere I turn, every level, I feel like I'm being lied to.

01:08:18.000 That there's nobody in government that I can trust.

01:08:22.000 I hope I'm alone in that.

01:08:25.000 It's not just one issue.

01:08:26.000 It's almost all of them.

01:08:28.000 They're all starting to tie together for me.

01:08:30.000 And I guess there's nothing that illustrates it better than the border issue.

01:08:34.000 Like most people in America, I have been so outraged with what has been happening, or I guess, more appropriately, what's not been happening on the border.

01:08:43.000 With the immigration debate, it has been... it has been...

01:08:47.000 Confusing, but that's not even enough.

01:08:50.000 It has just never made any sense.

01:08:53.000 Why are we selling out our own security?

01:08:56.000 More importantly, who are we selling out to?

01:09:00.000 Then yesterday, I had one of those Jerry Maguire moments.

01:09:03.000 I woke up in the middle of the night, and it hit me all at once.

01:09:06.000 Something that I had seen on television.

01:09:09.000 The real story tonight?

01:09:11.000 The real story is, the answer has been right in front of our eyes the entire time.

01:09:16.000 But, it took a statement from the President in a press conference yesterday that I saw, on a completely unrelated issue, to bring it all together.

01:09:26.000 Listen to this.

01:09:26.000 Let's put it this way.

01:09:29.000 Money trumps peace, sometimes.

01:09:35.000 In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests.

01:09:41.000 Throughout the world.

01:09:43.000 Money trumps peace?

01:09:45.000 Don't think so.

01:09:46.000 Money trumps everything.

01:09:47.000 It felt like that's what he wanted to say.

01:09:49.000 You can't explain it any more clearer than the President just did!

01:09:53.000 I want you to keep those words in mind as I tell you two unbelievable immigration stories that both make perfect sense to me now.

01:10:01.000 First, we have that Bank of America story.

01:10:03.000 The ad wizards over there have decided that illegal immigrants would make a nice niche market for a new credit card program. 0.99

01:10:12.000 Gee, how do you reach that market?

01:10:15.000 I mean, you can't exactly buy an undocumented worker email list, right?

01:10:19.000 No.

01:10:20.000 Turns out you don't have to.

01:10:22.000 All you have to do is use one key phrase in your advertising that appeals most to that market.

01:10:29.000 Ready for it?

01:10:30.000 No social security number required.

01:10:33.000 And that is exactly what the Bank of America is doing.

01:10:38.000 Of course, now they're just claiming, oh, we're just trying to help.

01:10:41.000 Let me give you this quote.

01:10:43.000 These people, they're coming here for a quality of life and they deserve somebody to give them a chance to achieve that.

01:10:50.000 Stop it! 0.99

01:10:50.000 You're breaking my heart! 0.99

01:10:52.000 But guess who made that heartfelt plea?

01:10:54.000 It was the Bank of America's Director of Latin America Card Operations.

01:11:00.000 Now, what do you suppose his interests are?

01:11:04.000 The quality of life for the immigrants? 0.96

01:11:07.000 Or squeezing every last drop of money out of the Hispanic market? 0.58

01:11:11.000 Money.

01:11:12.000 Trump's.

01:11:13.000 Peace.

01:11:14.000 And then, there's the story of the NFL.

01:11:17.000 This one is amazing!

01:11:18.000 They actually refused to allow a U.S.

01:11:21.000 Border Patrol recruitment ad in the NFL Super Bowl program.

01:11:25.000 Look at the ad.

01:11:26.000 This is what they wanted to run.

01:11:27.000 It was going to be printed in their program this year, but no, no, no!

01:11:31.000 The NFL turned it down!

01:11:32.000 You ready for this?

01:11:33.000 Quote, the immigration debate is a very controversial issue.

01:11:37.000 Oh! 0.60

01:11:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:40.000 I guess that ad is controversial as well because it says that the Border Agents help stop terrorists, weapons, undocumented aliens, and drug smugglers from coming into this country.

01:11:51.000 Oh, the humanity!

01:11:53.000 The Border Patrol says the rejection is more than a little puzzling.

01:11:57.000 No, it's not.

01:11:58.000 Honestly, it's not.

01:12:00.000 The real story is that in 2005, Mexico City was the first official NFL game site.

01:12:08.000 The first game ever by the NFL to be played in Mexico was played in Mexico City.

01:12:14.000 Alright, so you hear that.

01:12:16.000 They're covering it because they have to.

01:12:22.000 He says that he gets the idea of the government's lying to us on almost everything, but he hopes he's the only person that thinks that.

01:12:31.000 And the message there is it's not healthy to think that.

01:12:34.000 It's not good to think that.

01:12:38.000 He then goes on to say that things make no sense, but then Bush says that powerful international financial interests trump everything.

01:12:52.000 And then he claims that ad wizards at Bank of America came up with the term no social security number.

01:13:00.000 No!

01:13:02.000 The Associated Press reported last year what we told you over three years ago when Vicente Fox came to Austin, Texas and I bullhorned him and shut him down.

01:13:11.000 He was here giving an award to the Austin Police Department for not arresting illegals for not having insurance or driver's license and accepting consular matriculus as driver's license.

01:13:23.000 No law, Not a state law.

01:13:26.000 For violating the law.

01:13:27.000 Just deciding that they're God and they're going to let them play by different rules than everybody else.

01:13:35.000 And he also gave an award that evening.

01:13:37.000 He gave three.

01:13:39.000 One of the other awards was to the legislature And the other, to a committee chairman, and the other award was to Wells Fargo that started all of this.

01:13:51.000 And I learned of it three years ago.

01:13:53.000 That means it had been going on for a while before that.

01:13:56.000 And that is a debit card that they issue with no ID.

01:14:04.000 In some cases they say they demand a console matricula that literally come in Cracker Jack boxes that anyone can get.

01:14:11.000 To give them a debit card and bank account.

01:14:13.000 And with that bank account number, they're able to get housing loans and car loans.

01:14:18.000 And then the AP reported last year the headline, 800 lenders.

01:14:24.000 Reach out to the community.

01:14:30.000 There was a similar headline out of the LA Times last week saying they're catering to the Hispanic market. 0.93

01:14:36.000 Acting like it's all Hispanics are illegal aliens.

01:14:39.000 No, it's to the illegal alien market and they said in the LA Times and in the AP last year LA Times last week, AP last year, and it had different bank chairmen saying, well there's a move to force them out of the country, there's a move to stop these people from coming here who are doing jobs no one wants and we want to help them put down roots so they can't be expelled.

01:15:03.000 So this is corporate America in a concerted effort with the Democrats and Republicans to break down the sovereignty of this country.

01:15:12.000 So Glenn Beck makes you think it's just the money and it's a business issue, and that's a fringe benefit of course, but he doesn't tell you it's part of the North American Union and under the guest worker program, which is total amnesty.

01:15:26.000 That any illegals that are here will be instantly legalized for six years. 0.98

01:15:31.000 Anyone who can get here will be legalized.

01:15:33.000 It will allow them to bring almost unlimited members of their family here, and it allows corporations to bring in unlimited skilled and unskilled workers on open visa issuance.

01:15:45.000 You think your high-tech jobs are gone now to India?

01:15:49.000 Oh, just get ready, they'll just bring more here. 0.98

01:15:52.000 So, this is the system.

01:15:55.000 This is economic warfare, modern neo-mercantilism.

01:16:00.000 This is not free market.

01:16:02.000 This is monopoly capitalism with a fascist overlay.

01:16:07.000 These are monopoly men operating against the people of the planet.

01:16:11.000 Wendy in Texas, thank you for holding.

01:16:16.000 Go ahead Wendy, you're on the air.

01:16:20.000 Okay, let's let her go. 1.00

01:16:21.000 Let's go on now and talk to Ted.

01:16:23.000 Ted, where are you calling us from?

01:16:25.000 Las Vegas.

01:16:26.000 Welcome.

01:16:27.000 Hey, Alex.

01:16:28.000 Hey, love your show.

01:16:29.000 I'm sort of new to your program, you know, just the last couple months.

01:16:34.000 I want to thank you for waking me up and all the great things that you're doing.

01:16:39.000 I've decided to join this fight and got myself a DVD burner now.

01:16:44.000 As soon as I figure out how to work it, I'm going to start burning copies of Terror Storm.

01:16:48.000 Freedom to fascism, loose change, all those, you know, and start spreading them around.

01:16:53.000 I like going out into the neighborhood and networking that and starting arguments with people and, you know, talking about these things and waking other people up.

01:17:00.000 It's a lot of fun, actually.

01:17:02.000 And it's sort of filled a void in my life, and I want to thank you for that.

01:17:07.000 Very good.

01:17:08.000 I want to thank you for what you're doing.

01:17:09.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:17:11.000 It's a lot of fun.

01:17:11.000 I just love it.

01:17:13.000 Now, I have a little bit of a question you might want to expound on this a little bit, but I really, I get a little confused when I'm talking with people about the war in Iraq.

01:17:27.000 So many people are always telling me, you know, that Bush has, you know, why did Congress allow Bush to go in there in the first place then?

01:17:36.000 And I really get a little confused, you know, how this all came about when You know, he doesn't have, there is no declaration of war, he doesn't have any congressional authority to do what he's doing.

01:17:48.000 There hasn't been a declaration of war since World War II ended in 1945.

01:17:52.000 Not in Korea, not in Vietnam, not in Gulf War I or II, not in Bosnia, not in Serbia.

01:17:59.000 Let me, let me just go over that.

01:18:03.000 They gave an authorization to use force if the United States was quote threatened, so we claim they had WMDs and lied us into war. 0.54

01:18:10.000 The Democrats, many of them, are just as neoconnish and bought off by foreign interest as Bush is.

01:18:17.000 So, claiming that Congress allowed it so it's okay, number one, is wrong.

01:18:22.000 And then, B, even if they did, it's a fraud.

01:18:25.000 And the point is, we were lied into war.

01:18:28.000 They promised the troops would be back by Christmas.

01:18:30.000 Their own Pentagon plan said they planned to be there at least three decades.

01:18:35.000 So, I don't know what the people need you're talking to. 1.00

01:18:40.000 You know, if the people are stupid you're talking to, move on. 1.00

01:18:43.000 Don't waste your time with them. 1.00

01:18:46.000 Talk to people that have got ears to hear and eyes to see.

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01:23:07.000 Hi, welcome back.

01:23:08.000 You know, we should all not be so reliant on calculators, on computers.

01:23:16.000 Right behind desks.

01:23:18.000 I just don't want you to know I can see through your mind.

01:23:24.000 All right, welcome back.

01:23:25.000 You know, we should all not be so reliant on calculators, on computers.

01:23:29.000 People 20, 30 years ago, most folks could do basic math.

01:23:33.000 I learned basic math in school, but hardly remember it now when I need to use it.

01:23:37.000 Here's an example.

01:23:38.000 Atomic clocks go crazy sometimes.

01:23:41.000 And when I came in here today, I didn't think and my atomic clock said the 15th.

01:23:46.000 When I said it, I thought, that sounds weird, something's wrong, but I just moved on.

01:23:50.000 And then I looked over, it was flashing, recalibrating, getting its radio signal, I guess, from NORAD in Denver, where they send out this global radio signal that programs these clocks.

01:24:01.000 And in talk radio we all use these when it's syndicated because it's all coordinated with satellites.

01:24:07.000 And it started blinking and it was the 19th.

01:24:09.000 And I went, of course it's the 19th.

01:24:11.000 But I said it was the 15th.

01:24:14.000 Just incredible.

01:24:16.000 That's the kind of mistakes I make.

01:24:19.000 Let's go back to Wendy in Texas.

01:24:20.000 She's there now.

01:24:21.000 Wendy, go ahead. 0.77

01:24:22.000 Hello, Alex.

01:24:23.000 How are you doing?

01:24:24.000 Good.

01:24:24.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:24:26.000 Listen, I woke up in October of last year.

01:24:26.000 Yes.

01:24:30.000 And as a woman, I have felt the backlash towards women for a long time.

01:24:37.000 And personally, I'm very offended when people bring up Britney Spears or Anna Cole Smith in a negative way because I'm a woman and I just would like to challenge other women out there to take that opportunity when people start dissing women, you know, anybody, any woman, to just, you know, inform people that That's the global elite scum that are purposely doing that to break up the family and to put women in a bad light.

01:25:07.000 Oh, I agree.

01:25:08.000 But watch like Fox TV.

01:25:10.000 It's the worst. 1.00

01:25:11.000 Every male role model is a drunken idiot. 1.00

01:25:14.000 The wife orders him around. 1.00

01:25:15.000 He's a moron. 1.00

01:25:17.000 So they attack both the husband and the wife. 1.00

01:25:20.000 And yes, they do put out this image of how women are supposed to behave. 1.00

01:25:25.000 So young women do act like that and they end up having very bad lives. 1.00

01:25:29.000 And of course, notice it's the modern feminist movement that's telling women to act like this when really it degrades and destroys women. 1.00

01:25:37.000 Absolutely.

01:25:38.000 I love your show, Alex.

01:25:39.000 I just wanted to challenge other women out there to stand up and to take that opportunity to shed some light on the global elite that are covering up the real issues. 1.00

01:25:50.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:25:52.000 Thank you for the call.

01:25:53.000 It's so many women that are on the front lines fighting the New World Order, whether it's on the cancer vaccines or the live cancer viruses or 9-11. 0.99

01:26:02.000 I mean, you name it, fighting for our sovereignty, it's just women. 1.00

01:26:06.000 And more men need to stand up and watch a few less ball games and be real men and stand up for their country.

01:26:11.000 Well, they're like, I do!

01:26:12.000 I'm for the war! 0.65

01:26:13.000 That's what a man does! 0.87

01:26:15.000 No, that war is meant to destroy the U.S.

01:26:19.000 position in the world and demonize us, and it's worked quite well.

01:26:23.000 And it's a total scam.

01:26:25.000 A man should also be sophisticated enough to not always be scammed.

01:26:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in San Diego.

01:26:34.000 You're on the air.

01:26:35.000 Welcome.

01:26:36.000 Hey, welcome, Alex.

01:26:38.000 Every time I hear your digressions, that inspires me.

01:26:42.000 Keep doing your digressions.

01:26:45.000 Your great personality comes through there.

01:26:47.000 By that, digressions, what do you mean?

01:26:48.000 You go into your stories.

01:26:50.000 You start to make connections between other things.

01:26:54.000 Not only the political, but you get into I think it's some of the funny comedy routines like the time you talked about the people that enjoy football and they think that their wife is like a blow-up doll.

01:27:09.000 Well, a few months back you were talking about that.

01:27:12.000 Well, no, what I was saying is that it's a prosthesis, but it's not even a prosthesis that works.

01:27:20.000 It's like a false limb, like a false leg, or arm, or hand, or eye.

01:27:25.000 It doesn't really see.

01:27:26.000 It's like it's a facsimile of ritualized warfare.

01:27:30.000 It's a gladiatorial diversion.

01:27:32.000 It's like the Great Coliseum.

01:27:34.000 And so men aren't men.

01:27:35.000 They have this instinct to fight.

01:27:36.000 That instinct's there to fight for your tribe, your people, to stand up against oppression.

01:27:40.000 Instead, men then put their manliness, not into just playing sports, that's fine.

01:27:46.000 But actually just cheering and getting real serious, you know, taking it like it's a tribal war for the future of their tribe.

01:27:53.000 And so again, they're taking your real energies and squandering them into a facsimile.

01:28:00.000 So I said that's the equivalent to telling a man, hey, you're not really married, that's a blow-up doll.

01:28:07.000 Well, it's the same thing with sports.

01:28:08.000 No, you're not really a warrior, that's not really what your instincts are meant to be directed into.

01:28:13.000 Do you understand?

01:28:14.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:28:15.000 Well, I just wanted to continue on the artistic path, and you have David Lynch on, and Richard Linklater, Vidal, Gore Vidal.

01:28:26.000 Inspires me to listen to them, and that, as Lynch said, turn on the light.

01:28:31.000 Let's talk about the great artistic spirit of the human condition.

01:28:35.000 We can all... Anything else you want to add?

01:28:37.000 We're about to break.

01:28:38.000 That's it.

01:28:39.000 You just remind me of William Shatner.

01:28:41.000 We'll be right back.

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01:35:51.000 It's going to have message boards, your own websites, MySpace.

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01:36:00.000 Alright, cats out of the bag on that.

01:36:04.000 I've been mentioning I had some big thing I was developing and some delusionals locally thought it was something else, so I might as well just say what it is.

01:36:11.000 No, I'm not worried about your microscopic pea shooters there in the fight against the New World Order. 0.88

01:36:19.000 So many delusional people.

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01:36:24.000 It's just amazing.

01:36:25.000 Alright, I'm already digressing.

01:36:26.000 I've got tons of news here.

01:36:27.000 Dylan Avery's on hold.

01:36:29.000 Dylan, you're on every week now!

01:36:30.000 I love it!

01:36:32.000 Don't get to see you in person that often like I'd like to, you and the crew, but it's good to have you on.

01:36:36.000 You had a chance, obviously, to see the 9-11 conspiracies BBC primetime hit piece.

01:36:43.000 I think you did a pretty darn good job.

01:36:45.000 And you're here to give us your analysis on that before the creature himself, The hit piece captain of his crew joins us in the next hour from the bowels of the British broadcasting commissariat.

01:36:58.000 Go ahead.

01:36:59.000 Well yeah Alex, it's always great to be on your show and you're right, I'm getting on here more and more frequently.

01:37:04.000 I was actually kind of hoping I could stay on the air for the Guy Smith stuff, even if you want to lead the way, that'd be great.

01:37:09.000 Yeah, I just want to give him fair time.

01:37:11.000 They put 11 people against 3 of us in the film.

01:37:14.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying about fairness, man.

01:37:16.000 I feel you and me against Tim's pretty fair.

01:37:18.000 But regardless, they got a lot of things wrong in that piece.

01:37:20.000 I'm going to have Watson on too.

01:37:23.000 Cool.

01:37:24.000 I just want to give him equal time, so we'll give him like 2 minutes and each of you can have a minute or something like that.

01:37:30.000 I mean I guess he did have four to one against us so we could have three to one on him but I just don't want I want to give him time to run but go ahead.

01:37:39.000 Well you know basically there's a couple of blaring inaccuracies in their piece.

01:37:43.000 The first one is that they make it seem like Uh, you know, hey, Dylan Avery feels that he has found the solution to where the people are.

01:37:49.000 You know, I love how they say that.

01:37:50.000 They take one piece of the movie and they say that I'm saying it's definitive.

01:37:53.000 Uh, they act as if we never mentioned Delta 1989 and they even interview a passenger and show her ticket stub as if we're somehow denying that this woman took the flight.

01:38:02.000 No, we don't deny Delta 1989 exists.

01:38:04.000 You've got to stop.

01:38:04.000 Not everybody out there is a grand poobah who, you know, has a master's degree in 9-11, who constantly studies it, eats, breathes, and sleeps it.

01:38:14.000 Let's go back and explain this specifically.

01:38:17.000 Sure.

01:38:18.000 Well, to make a long story short, there's some research out there that was originally done by a man that goes by the nickname Woody Box.

01:38:25.000 Uh, which basically details the fact that there were two very significantly different stories surrounding, uh, allegedly two planes that landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport on the morning of 9-11.

01:38:35.000 One of them was originally reported to be Flight 93.

01:38:38.000 And as the days went on, the details about that plane changed and changed and changed.

01:38:41.000 But, I mean, if you look at it, there's two different stories.

01:38:44.000 It's not like the story changed multiple times and times were changing constantly.

01:38:48.000 There were two separate planes that were being mentioned.

01:38:50.000 Now, again, we're not saying that this is proof of anything.

01:38:52.000 It's, uh, you know, it's what we did in the second edition.

01:38:54.000 We brought up Now I want to get into the biggest thing.

01:38:57.000 we brought up the cell phone calls and the voice morgan because we had to provide some kind of an alternative explanation and that was obviously a bad idea and we acknowledge that but the simple fact is the BBC spun it as if we're saying that again somehow this woman never took the plane which is just simply not true now I want to get into the biggest thing in fact we have this clip I gave the network the time codes this morning I am them, but then I forgot which time code is which.

01:39:24.000 Is it 30 minutes in, Dylan, where they get into claiming that the debris field was only a mile away, and then falsely claim that, without giving sources, that That it was 8 miles or 6.9 by road and that the debris field was only a mile and that was paper.

01:39:43.000 When we have the Cincinnati papers, the Associated Press and others saying 8 miles and big pieces of wreckage 8 miles away.

01:39:51.000 Let me just ask the network.

01:39:52.000 We're doing so much here folks.

01:39:53.000 Sorry we got to discuss stuff here on air.

01:39:56.000 John, is it 30 minutes in that's got the stuff about Flight 93?

01:40:04.000 Yeah, let's play a few minutes of this because the big thing here is...

01:40:09.000 He confronted me about this and I pulled out news articles because I knew he was going to want to cover this and I then took him to a computer and showed him like three more, so five mainstream articles with police, state police, others saying that debris was upwards of eight miles away and then they claim that we're basically lying and that it was only one mile away.

01:40:31.000 They do that on a very tenuous basis but here's a clip from the film.

01:40:37.000 The theory that President Bush would not blanch about killing thousands of innocent Americans in collateral damage to launch this war of global domination is entirely plausible to the conspiracy theorists.

01:40:50.000 We've invaded two sovereign nations.

01:40:51.000 We're probably about to invade a third.

01:40:53.000 Look at all the laws they've passed.

01:40:54.000 Look at all the things they've done.

01:40:56.000 They're spying on their own citizens.

01:40:57.000 They can torture innocent civilians and call them enemy combatants.

01:41:01.000 You know, you really have to ask yourself, would we be where we are right now without 9-11? 0.85

01:41:06.000 For the 9-11 Truth Movement, the fate of the fourth hijacked plane is clear evidence of a government cover-up.

01:41:12.000 There were 44 people on board United Flight 93.

01:41:17.000 According to the official account, the passengers tried to seize back control of the aircraft.

01:41:22.000 But as they fought their way into the cockpit, the hijackers crashed the plane in rural Pennsylvania.

01:41:28.000 It's claimed that the plane was secretly shot down by the U.S.

01:41:31.000 - He's down?

01:41:32.000 - Yes.

01:41:33.000 - When did he land?

01:41:33.000 Because he had confirmation.

01:41:35.000 - He did not land.

01:41:37.000 - Oh, he's down? - Yes, that's the last report.

01:41:40.000 They don't know exactly where. - It's claimed that the plane was secretly shot down by the US Air Force.

01:41:46.000 Reports of debris being found miles from the crash site here proves, it's argued, that the Boeing started to disintegrate in midair after being hit by a missile.

01:41:57.000 United 93 is just another one of the blaring cases of where we know the government story is a fraud.

01:42:05.000 When planes crash into the ground, they never leave more than a mile long Debris field and you see the luggage and the engines and there's a huge wound in the ground.

01:42:17.000 The state police, the feds are on record reporting that there was an eight plus mile debris field with flight 93.

01:42:29.000 Five years on, alone stars and stripes marked the spot where United 93 came down.

01:42:37.000 And this is where it was reported that wreckage was found.

01:42:40.000 There was talk of parts of a wing and an engine.

01:42:43.000 If debris had been recovered here, it would provide strong evidence to support the conspiracy theory.

01:42:48.000 Because, it's claimed, Indian Lake is nearly 7 miles from the crash site.

01:42:54.000 Journalists and 9-11 investigators have come up with the distance by typing the two locations into search engines and used the result in their articles.

01:43:02.000 6.9 miles.

01:43:09.000 It does seem to check out.

01:43:14.000 But the road goes a long way around.

01:43:16.000 In a straight line, Indian Lake is just over a mile from the crash site.

01:43:21.000 And the wind was blowing in that direction on September the 11th.

01:43:26.000 But was wreckage found here?

01:43:27.000 Okay.

01:43:30.000 Don't go too fast or we won't get too cold.

01:43:34.000 Local residents heard the crash and soon after watched debris come down on the lake.

01:43:41.000 Debris was floating through the air.

01:43:43.000 This is what we found on the ground.

01:43:44.000 Pieces similar to this.

01:43:46.000 Nothing of any size, but just a lot of small pieces.

01:43:50.000 And no large parts of an engine or a wing?

01:43:52.000 No.

01:43:52.000 Not at all.

01:43:53.000 Okay.

01:43:53.000 We have nothing of it.

01:43:55.000 Alright, and Dylan, you want to comment on this because we have the police saying big pieces of wreckage four and a half miles away, other reports saying papers eight miles away, and that's in the newspaper articles, but they don't want to talk about those, do they?

01:44:12.000 Do they, Dylan Avery?

01:44:13.000 Well, no, and the other thing they didn't want to talk about is New Baltimore, which, as far as I know, is actually 8 miles away, and singed paper from the crash was found there, among many other things.

01:44:23.000 And again, we have the mainstream news articles on that saying that.

01:44:26.000 That's why we reported that.

01:44:28.000 Yeah, 8 miles away, New Baltimore.

01:44:30.000 Melanie Hankinson said she found singed papers and other light debris from the crash, including pages from Hemispheres Magazine, United In-Flight Magazine.

01:44:39.000 Uh, so said authorities initially insisted crash debris could not have traveled over a mountain ridge more than eight miles from the crash.

01:44:46.000 Um, so yeah, they, uh, there, you know, there's a lot of things they didn't mention in this piece, and, uh, New Baltimore was just one of them.

01:44:52.000 But, now, they also then Have you saying, hey, they find engines, well, and then they show the hole and an engine in it.

01:45:02.000 But the point is, that's all that's in the hole is an engine.

01:45:05.000 There isn't any other parts.

01:45:06.000 The point, of course, an engine made a big hole.

01:45:09.000 That's what we're saying is that some of the debris fell where they are now putting the memorial.

01:45:13.000 Large portions of the debris fell there, but there was debris scattered.

01:45:17.000 According to mainstream press reports, for over eight miles.

01:45:22.000 Then expanding out from there, they then claim, oh look, a passport of one of the hijackers was found.

01:45:28.000 Oh, how convenient.

01:45:29.000 And they even showed the bandana!

01:45:31.000 They showed the bandana!

01:45:33.000 I mean, come on!

01:45:35.000 An unburned red bandana saying it probably came from one of the hijackers.

01:45:41.000 Now, when we do our debunking piece, and we've already done several, but we're going to do more on the debunking of the debunking.

01:45:49.000 Let's be clear.

01:45:50.000 They claim that not one, but two passports went out of their luggage, out of their clothes, out of the side of the fireball, out of the building, and were found unburned on the street.

01:46:02.000 And then, when it turned out that one of the passports was to a wrong person still living in Saudi Arabia, and by the way, that was the BBC reporting that, They then retracted that and said we were wrong, we didn't find passports.

01:46:13.000 I mean, how obvious is this planting of passports getting?

01:46:16.000 It's like the 7-7 bombing, Dylan, where they planted one guy's ID card at two different bomb sites.

01:46:23.000 Hmm, exactly.

01:46:23.000 How do we know?

01:46:25.000 I mean, how ridiculous is this? 0.98

01:46:27.000 Now there's unburned bandanas? 0.95

01:46:30.000 Yeah, and they even showed one of the box cutters, too.

01:46:33.000 Yeah, they got box cutters survived, but we don't see any debris at the site, just a hole.

01:46:39.000 They've got all this stuff.

01:46:40.000 Boy, this is amazing.

01:46:41.000 And they also now claim the coroner, and you just quoted his quotes, and then he says, well that basically is out of context.

01:46:47.000 But it isn't out of context.

01:46:49.000 The coroners and others said we didn't find any bodies.

01:46:52.000 And they said the same thing at the Pentagon, and now he's going back on that.

01:46:56.000 You want to break that down?

01:46:58.000 Well yeah, you know, the whole Wally Miller thing is really interesting because people to this day, and obviously the BBC did it, accuse us of taking those quotes out of context.

01:47:07.000 No, we didn't take anything out of context.

01:47:09.000 We put the quotes up on the screen and read what he said.

01:47:12.000 Okay.

01:47:13.000 The fact is, he said those things four, five, maybe six different times.

01:47:16.000 He reiterated himself on 9-11-2002.

01:47:19.000 He said that I barely saw any bodies.

01:47:21.000 It's true.

01:47:22.000 He didn't.

01:47:23.000 I mean, he's saying that, and we are quoting Wally Miller.

01:47:26.000 And you read his whole quotes that he told the press!

01:47:30.000 I mean, one time he told the press, oh, you know, it looked like there were no passengers on board.

01:47:33.000 I mean, why is a coroner saying this at a plane crash?

01:47:36.000 I mean, and he's like, well, you know... He says, it looks like there were no passengers, I saw no bodies, it was just a hole in the ground, and then now, he looks scared.

01:47:44.000 He's saying, no, no, no, no, you misunderstand me.

01:47:47.000 Well, yeah, he's like, oh, well, what I meant by I stopped being a coroner after 20 minutes is that it was obvious it was a funeral service.

01:47:53.000 We're not disagreeing with you, Wally, we're simply bringing up the fact that you said multiple times to the public, and again, a year after the fact, that you saw no bodies there and didn't see a drop of blood.

01:48:04.000 Not a single drop of blood in a plane crash.

01:48:07.000 I mean, let's think about this, people.

01:48:09.000 But you know, again, it's Wally Miller, so... Then there's a lady that claims she took the picture of the big puff of smoke and that's been looked at.

01:48:21.000 Yeah, but hey Alex, the other point that I thought was interesting is that they brought on the writer from the X-Files, but they didn't bring on Dean Haglund, who was in the Lone Gunman pilot, who went public on your show and called 9-11 an inside job.

01:48:33.000 They don't interview that guy for some reason.

01:48:35.000 Well, I remember they said we're going to interview the producer, the writer of the X-Files.

01:48:42.000 And I said, why don't you interview Dean Hagelin?

01:48:44.000 Here's videotapes of him saying he believes it's an inside job that the CIA would approach them and plant storylines on them.

01:48:51.000 In the piece, a hijacked jet by remote control to be flown to the World Trade Center, a passenger jet, and the government uses a drill to smokescreen that so that they're able to beat the defenses.

01:49:03.000 In this piece, They go, oh, there was a routine drill that day, but it was no big deal.

01:49:08.000 Wait a minute.

01:49:09.000 The government claims they'd never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings, that they'd never run drills.

01:49:14.000 Then the documents got released that they were running drills of hijacked jets being flown into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at the exact same time it was really happening.

01:49:22.000 I mean, I tell you, folks, this is an incredibly shoddy hit piece.

01:49:27.000 Yeah, I agree with you, Alex.

01:49:30.000 Stay there, Dylan.

01:49:31.000 One more segment with you, then we're going to let you ride shotgun when we get Guy Smith from the bowels of the BBC from London, England, on air.

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01:52:50.000 I want you to call Guy Smith in about three minutes.

01:53:08.000 I want him for the full hour starting immediately when we start up the next hour in about six minutes.

01:53:16.000 Bill and Avery will ride shotgun with us, so will Paul Watson, but I'm going to let them pop in with limited questions or comments because I've got a bunch of clips I want to play for Guy Smith and I want to go over things with him.

01:53:26.000 Why do you interview Craig Bartmer, who we interviewed in New York, decorated police officer, who they said they were going to blow up Building 7 and get back?

01:53:34.000 That's a police officer!

01:53:35.000 And I've talked to countless ones who wouldn't go on video saying, oh my gosh, they should get back, they were going to blow it up.

01:53:40.000 They didn't want to get into that, did they, my friend?

01:53:43.000 No, Alex, Craig was there for the taping, man.

01:53:46.000 That is the whole thing.

01:53:47.000 Craig was visiting our house while Guy Smith was there.

01:53:50.000 And after the taping, Craig caught him and the cameraman at the door.

01:53:52.000 He's like, listen, man, you know, I just want to tell you, more or less, that you're full of you-know-what.

01:53:57.000 You know, he's like, I was there, man.

01:53:59.000 I melted five pairs of boots on a pile.

01:54:00.000 I mean, he just reamed into him for like ten minutes, and Guy and his cameraman just walked away.

01:54:05.000 They got a big problem, though.

01:54:06.000 I mean, we were there last year at 9-11, and I was there two years before that, and like half the cops were on our side.

01:54:12.000 This time it was like 70% of the cops, 99% of the firefighters.

01:54:16.000 I mean, Dylan, literally, we couldn't hardly get our work done because they were all thanking us.

01:54:21.000 I agree with you wholeheartedly.

01:54:22.000 be in a bar eating.

01:54:23.000 They try to buy us drinks.

01:54:24.000 I mean, listen, Guy Smith and the rest of you, you're in trouble, okay? 0.99

01:54:28.000 Because when 9-11 finally goes completely public, and it's going to now, you watch, boy, I tell you what, you're going to look pretty stupid. 0.99

01:54:36.000 What do you say to that? 0.99

01:54:37.000 I agree with you wholeheartedly.

01:54:39.000 Another thing I want to bring up before we forget, the 4,000 Jews thing. 1.00

01:54:43.000 I mean, could there have been any lower blow to the 9-11 Truth Movement than the 4,000 Jews thing? 0.88

01:54:48.000 None of us endorsed that!

01:54:51.000 We never said that, and every time he brought it up to me, I'd say, here is the Jerusalem Post.

01:54:56.000 Here is Harach.

01:54:57.000 Here's Odigo, the head of the Israeli company in Tel Aviv, saying, we got a call saying get our people out hours before.

01:55:05.000 That's where the rumor started.

01:55:06.000 And they did indeed make the warning.

01:55:08.000 There were Jews that died, but the Odigo employees got out or didn't go.

01:55:12.000 But Guy Smith didn't want to touch that.

01:55:14.000 No, he didn't. 0.57

01:55:16.000 He wanted to take one ridiculous claim and he went into 10 minutes. 0.95

01:55:19.000 I mean, he interviewed a woman Come on, man. 0.98

01:55:22.000 I mean, it was such a hit piece.

01:55:24.000 It got really obvious near the end, especially when they pulled that.

01:55:28.000 And she's like, well, why didn't my family then not go to work if it wasn't... if the Jews didn't... Of course Jews died! 0.93

01:55:35.000 One company warned its employees.

01:55:37.000 Some other companies warned as well.

01:55:39.000 Arabs weren't in the building that day.

01:55:40.000 Everybody was talking about it.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, we sympathize with her, man.

01:55:45.000 I mean, we understand.

01:55:46.000 It's tough that your brother's dead.

01:55:47.000 We fully understand.

01:55:49.000 We never said that your brother, like, didn't get a specific warning.

01:55:52.000 Dylan, I know you're busy with the final cut, but I may have to do this with my local TV show and then put it on the web, but take short clips of BBC.

01:56:00.000 We can't get away with doing more, but we can do it for fair use to analyze it.

01:56:03.000 It is about us, after all.

01:56:05.000 Take short clips of their claims, then lay out the facts after each piece, and then show what we really said, what we really did.

01:56:13.000 But, I mean, I gave Guy Smith a huge folder of news articles.

01:56:15.000 He didn't want any of it.

01:56:18.000 Unbelievable.

01:56:20.000 We got a minute or two left before Guy Smith is supposedly going to join us.

01:56:24.000 Go ahead and add other points, Dylan.

01:56:26.000 Let's see here.

01:56:27.000 There's one thing I wanted to bring up, but I wanted to talk to him about it.

01:56:31.000 The glaring issue, man, the overall problem, I think everyone's overall problem with the piece is it didn't talk about the real issues.

01:56:37.000 It didn't talk about Norman Mineta, it didn't talk about the ISI connection, it didn't address the molten metal at all.

01:56:42.000 There are so many legitimate issues that they could have rushed upon, and it's like they deliberately ignored them.

01:56:48.000 In fact, as far as I remember, Steven Jones was actually contacted for this.

01:56:52.000 And, you know, for some reason he didn't appear in the program.

01:56:57.000 Hey, they were here off and on for a week.

01:56:59.000 I mean, it had to be over 20 hours of more than 20 hours of footage.

01:57:03.000 The more I think about it, and I'm in there three minutes, Dylan.

01:57:07.000 Yeah, we thought that you could have gotten a lot more screen time.

01:57:11.000 Well, it's not that I even care.

01:57:12.000 The point is, is that I was so focused with the facts and that they were getting frustrated.

01:57:18.000 Well, we're going to talk to We're going to talk to the old serpent himself here on the other side of this break.

01:57:25.000 Guy Schmidt, we appreciate his courage coming on.

01:57:27.000 We'll be right back.

01:57:31.000 Copies of the preceding broadcasts are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

01:57:39.000 Big Brother.

01:57:49.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:50.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:52.000 You want answers?

01:57:54.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:55.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:57:59.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 In the Encyclopedia Britannica 1999 edition, if you turn to yellow journalism, it details William Randolph Hearst helping organize and stage propaganda for the Spanish-American War, the enactment of the Federal Reserve, and many other globalist imperial programs.

01:58:25.000 There's only one other media group in history Known for being more associated with the government and propaganda.

01:58:32.000 That is, in history, still operating.

01:58:34.000 George Orwell, of course, fashioning the character Winston off of himself in the Ministry of Truth, in a fictional nightmare future dystopia, fashioned the Ministry of Truth off of the BBC.

01:58:47.000 We're black is white, up is down, left is right.

01:58:52.000 And we are joined by Guy Smith, producer, Director who made the primetime Sunday program, 9-11 conspiracies for the BBC.

01:59:02.000 He'll be with us for the entire hour.

01:59:04.000 Dylan Avery will be popping in, as well as Paul Joseph Watson from Sheffield, England.

01:59:13.000 Guy Smith, I appreciate you coming on.

01:59:15.000 No, a pleasure, Alex.

01:59:17.000 I don't know about yellow journalism, but I guess we just followed the evidence where it led us.

01:59:23.000 Oh, I was speaking of Hearst Publishing.

01:59:25.000 Certainly, you're a journalist.

01:59:26.000 You know about Hearst Publishing, right?

01:59:27.000 Certainly do.

01:59:28.000 And Chertoff's cousin, the Homeland Security Director, telling me it wasn't a hit piece, and then it was.

01:59:37.000 I was talking about a previous hit piece.

01:59:40.000 Guy, you told me over the phone that it wasn't a hit piece, but you also laughed and said you don't believe the stuff we've put out.

01:59:48.000 I mean, can you honestly say that this isn't an attempt at debunking?

01:59:52.000 Yeah, Alex, I really appreciate coming on your show, and I admire much of the work you do in talking about subjects that perhaps the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about.

02:00:03.000 But we didn't set out to do a hit piece, as you call it.

02:00:07.000 What we did is that we set out to investigate the evidence and to see where it led us.

02:00:12.000 And if it turned out that some of the conspiracy theories were true, I would have gladly said that in the film.

02:00:18.000 You know, we're not acting on behalf of any government agency or, you know, we're not part of some conspiracy... The BBC isn't government funded?

02:00:25.000 Is it funded and controlled by Tim Downing Street?

02:00:28.000 No, it's not actually.

02:00:29.000 The BBC is funded by the public through a license fee system.

02:00:32.000 It's a complicated system.

02:00:34.000 Which doesn't really operate, doesn't have any similarity to anything that operates in the States.

02:00:40.000 But basically, people who have a television in Britain have to pay a tax.

02:00:43.000 They pay that tax to the government and then the government hands it on to the BBC.

02:00:47.000 And just two years ago they made the director of the BBC resign and apologizing for putting out pieces claiming that Blair knew about WMDs and other things.

02:00:56.000 Now all totally admitted the BBC was right there.

02:01:00.000 Well, I mean, that's a whole different story.

02:01:03.000 But, you know, I can gladly talk about that if you like.

02:01:05.000 But I guess the main thing is to talk about the program that we made last night and that you said the hit piece.

02:01:11.000 And I'm saying it's not a hit piece.

02:01:13.000 What it's doing is investigating the conspiracy theories.

02:01:16.000 And we did that in an objective and a balanced way.

02:01:20.000 And we followed the evidence.

02:01:21.000 We followed the trail.

02:01:22.000 And we've followed where the trail led us.

02:01:24.000 A balanced way.

02:01:25.000 You had eleven debunkers.

02:01:27.000 We've timed it out.

02:01:28.000 You gave them at least three times more time than you gave the three 9-11 truthers. 0.97

02:01:35.000 Well, we talked to a lot of people on all sides of the debate.

02:01:41.000 It was almost 4-1, the time you gave them.

02:01:44.000 4-1, is that balanced?

02:01:46.000 Yeah, but Alex, you know that you carry a lot more weight than any debunkers, and when you come on air, you have a lot more impact than anybody who's an expert or anything like that.

02:01:57.000 Very condescending and sarcastic and complete.

02:02:01.000 Please.

02:02:02.000 You had your say in the film and you know many people will watch the program and they can make up their own minds.

02:02:08.000 Why did you interview me?

02:02:09.000 Why did you interview me for off and on for a week?

02:02:12.000 I know that'd be over 20 hours of footage and I was in there three minutes.

02:02:16.000 Well it wasn't actually a week.

02:02:17.000 I mean we came to Dallas and we met you on the Saturday.

02:02:21.000 You came to Dallas, interviewed me there, then you interviewed me in Austin in my studio, then the other studio.

02:02:26.000 Off and on for a week you were here.

02:02:27.000 No, it wasn't.

02:02:27.000 It was over two days, actually.

02:02:29.000 I mean, I can be absolutely quite certain about that.

02:02:32.000 We interviewed you in Dallas and then we interviewed you the next day in Austin.

02:02:37.000 Guy Smith, stay there.

02:02:37.000 We're going to be right back on the other side of this break to walk through this.

02:02:41.000 We appreciate your courage.

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02:05:46.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:49.000 Guy Smith, producer, director for the BBC, put together a well-done visual piece, well-produced.

02:05:59.000 Regardless, off and on for several days they interviewed me.

02:06:02.000 I would imagine it had to be twenty-something hours of footage.

02:06:07.000 So, let me just go back.

02:06:09.000 Let's be conservative and say it's ten hours of footage.

02:06:12.000 Why did you only use three minutes of me in there if it's so balanced?

02:06:18.000 I hate to disagree with you that we interviewed you for 10 hours or 20 hours or over a week.

02:06:23.000 We filmed an interview with you, you made some very cogent points and you're in the film.

02:06:31.000 What's the complaint?

02:06:32.000 Well, I mean, wait a minute.

02:06:33.000 I mean, you interviewed me for like three hours at the Grassy Knoll, and you followed us around, and we're taping off and on during a five-hour event at night, and the next day you interviewed me, you videotaped the two-hour radio show, then you interviewed me about two hours after.

02:06:45.000 I talked to you constantly on the phone for weeks before that, but let's not digress.

02:06:49.000 There's a lot of points to make here.

02:06:51.000 My point is, are you denying that you had eleven debunkers and three 9-11 truthers in the film, and are you denying that they had a lot more time than we did?

02:07:00.000 No, I'm not denying that.

02:07:02.000 We interviewed three main conspiracy theorists, you, Dylan Avery and Jim Fetzer.

02:07:08.000 Your views represent many other people in America, I accept that, and likewise those of Dylan Avery and Jim Fetzer.

02:07:16.000 And they had a good say in the program.

02:07:20.000 We gave them a lot of attention and a lot of opportunity to voice their views in the program.

02:07:26.000 And the program then went to investigate the claims that you and the other two guys are making.

02:07:31.000 And that's what we did in the program.

02:07:33.000 If it turned out that the trail that we followed led us to a different conclusion, we would have said that.

02:07:42.000 All I can report is what we found out.

02:07:45.000 In the end, people must make up their own views as to whether they want to believe us or they don't.

02:07:49.000 I accept that too.

02:07:51.000 I'm not trying to force this down anybody's throat.

02:07:54.000 I'm not trying to force anybody to accept what we're saying.

02:07:59.000 I'm just saying, look, this is what we did.

02:08:01.000 Why didn't you have, say, Kevin Ryan of Underwriting Laboratories, their own internal report said that 1,800 degree jet fuel couldn't melt steel that doesn't melt and it was molten.

02:08:12.000 That's on record.

02:08:13.000 We have the aerial photographs and the firefighters.

02:08:15.000 It was molten four weeks later.

02:08:17.000 How does 1,800 degrees melt steel that non-structural raw steel doesn't start melting till 2,554 degrees structural hardened steel until 3,300 and those are numbers people can just pull up instantly on any engineering website.

02:08:35.000 Why didn't you guys include that in your film?

02:08:38.000 Well, the reality is that we had 59 minutes and, frankly, we could have spent all day talking about just the Twin Towers.

02:08:46.000 We covered a lot of ground in the program, everything from the hijackers arriving in America before the attacks through to how the government tried to, the CIA and the FBI, tried to cover up their mistakes after the attacks.

02:08:59.000 So, you know, we only have 59 minutes, just as now we only have this one hour for this program.

02:09:04.000 There's not everything we can talk about.

02:09:06.000 So we decided to concentrate on some things more than others.

02:09:09.000 Now, clearly, one can make a whole hour just discussing the melting point of steel and exactly what happened to the Twin Towers.

02:09:15.000 But I guess the bottom line with the Twin Towers is, are you saying that they were demolished?

02:09:21.000 Now, if you were, then one has to look at why that happened and how that happened.

02:09:26.000 And we looked into that and we came to the conclusion that the evidence just doesn't support that conspiracy theory.

02:09:30.000 Okay, let me stop you right there.

02:09:31.000 Let me bring on Paul Watson from England.

02:09:33.000 He's been writing articles, you may have even seen some, concerning the piece that you did.

02:09:37.000 You use a NOVA simulation in the piece.

02:09:40.000 That has been completely debunked by David Ray Griffin and others.

02:09:43.000 They claim there's no central steel columns.

02:09:45.000 They claim it was a hollow shaft.

02:09:47.000 Paul Watson, you want to comment on the NOVA piece?

02:09:51.000 Well, yeah.

02:09:51.000 Firstly, I would like to say that I actually counted 13 debunkers compared to so-called conspiracy theorists, so it was an even greater number.

02:10:00.000 And I would ask Mr. Smith, why, when we've had government officials, scientists, first responders, MI5 agents on this show talking about our side of the evidence.

02:10:11.000 Did he decide to give ten minutes to a producer of a sci-fi show that went off the air five years ago?

02:10:20.000 Mr. Smith?

02:10:21.000 Yeah, we decided to talk to Frank Spottnitz because he had very many interesting things to say about conspiracy theories.

02:10:28.000 It's as simple as that.

02:10:29.000 Basically, that it's a modern religion of delusionals.

02:10:34.000 Now, in the Nova piece, It shows... Paul, you've measured it and timed it.

02:10:40.000 Give him the exact seconds, and it comes out to about 55 seconds for the towers to fall, but in reality they fell in a little over 10 seconds, so even the NOVA piece is false, Paul.

02:10:52.000 If you take the conservative estimate and say the towers fell in 14 to 16 seconds, what we've got is Mr. Smith, in the documentary near the beginning when he talks about controlled demolition, He uses a graphic animation from Nova, which is a PBS scientific documentary, which depicts the collapse of the Twin Towers at a rate of 6 floors per second, meaning that the total collapse of each tower would have taken around 66 seconds.

02:10:52.000 Well, that's right.

02:11:23.000 So it's a patently false and misleading graphic to use, and My question is, you know, will there be a retraction of this graphic which is blatantly false and misleading and only lends to the bias that was already decided on in dismissing questions about controlled demolition?

02:11:43.000 Mr. Smith?

02:11:45.000 That graphic wasn't misleading.

02:11:46.000 I don't know, you're talking about it coming from NOVA.

02:11:48.000 It was actually made by the BBC, that graphic.

02:11:51.000 Well, the point is, it was used on the NOVA program as well, I don't know.

02:11:55.000 But the point is, if you're suggesting that the World Trade Center was demolished by explosives, then I would say, where is the cast iron evidence to back that up?

02:12:09.000 Let me stop you, let me stop you then.

02:12:11.000 Craig Bartmer, who was in the news, on record, giving citations, on the pile for five days, there when seven collapsed, has reported, and I've got now over 15 firefighters and police coming on in the next week.

02:12:24.000 We're lining them all up for one show.

02:12:26.000 Hope you tune in.

02:12:27.000 It'll be three hours of witnesses.

02:12:29.000 That said, we were told to get back from 7.

02:12:31.000 They were going to bring it down so it wouldn't damage other buildings.

02:12:34.000 They were going to blow it up.

02:12:35.000 We have CNN with two cops going, get back, get back.

02:12:37.000 7 is going to come down.

02:12:39.000 Get back.

02:12:39.000 They're bringing it down.

02:12:40.000 Okay?

02:12:41.000 We clearly have this over and over again.

02:12:44.000 In fact, right now, go ahead.

02:12:46.000 Let's first play the molten steel clip from New York TV.

02:12:49.000 Here are firefighters talking about molten steel like a foundry like lava.

02:12:53.000 Here it is.

02:12:54.000 You'd get down below and you'd see molten steel.

02:12:57.000 Molten steel running down the channel rails.

02:12:59.000 Like you're in a foundry.

02:13:02.000 Like lava.

02:13:03.000 Like lava in the volcano.

02:13:07.000 Okay, now let's play the next clip, and just in case you've never seen these or heard these, and the videos are up on the website, here's CNN with two cops saying, get back, they're gonna bring it down, seven's coming down, they say it three times, here it is, CNN.

02:13:20.000 Can you hear that?

02:13:21.000 - So we not only have that, and again, there's over 15 coming on the show, we've already had a bunch of them on.

02:13:40.000 I've interviewed Barton Merfour video for an upcoming film in New York, he can barely breathe.

02:13:45.000 Now, he tried to be interviewed by you, and you didn't want to talk to him, and he said that he was there, and they said, get back, they're going to bring the building down.

02:13:54.000 Now, you just heard clips, I'm asking you, why didn't you want to talk to a police officer?

02:13:59.000 Well, um, I don't know about that particular police officer, um, but... But you met him!

02:14:04.000 You met him!

02:14:05.000 He was there!

02:14:06.000 He went up in upstate New York to meet with you!

02:14:08.000 Uh, I guess he must have been one of the people who was at Dylan Avery's house.

02:14:12.000 I think that's probably what you're referring to.

02:14:15.000 Yes, yes, a police officer.

02:14:16.000 Yes, uh, yes.

02:14:17.000 Well, look, we could spend all day talking about whether there was molten steel or whether it was something else in the basement of the World Trade Center.

02:14:25.000 But what you have to do is to look at the bottom line theory.

02:14:28.000 Now, if you're saying those Twin Towers were demolished, I have yet to understand why they were demolished.

02:14:35.000 And how they were demolished.

02:14:37.000 All I can say is that the evidence that we have looked at just doesn't stack up.

02:14:41.000 I mean, is it really plausible that people would have flown two planes into these tin towers and laced them with demolition charges?

02:14:48.000 We're not saying that.

02:14:50.000 No, they were pre-placed.

02:14:51.000 What about seven?

02:14:52.000 No plane hit seven.

02:14:53.000 The CIA, the FBI, Defense Intelligence, it was a giant intelligence building.

02:14:59.000 It had the command center FEMA claimed they were there the night before, then they tried to retract, and Giuliani, in congressional testimony, admitted they were running Tripod 2, a drill of an attack on the complex, so they'd already moved out the night before to the end of the pier.

02:15:13.000 But is it really plausible, do you think, that World Trade Center 7 would have been demolished, and five years later, Nobody who is involved in planting those demolition charges wouldn't have spoken to their wife or girlfriend or come forward and admitted that they were part of that.

02:15:32.000 How did they have a man?

02:15:33.000 Hold on, let me finish.

02:15:34.000 How did they have Tuskegee for 40 plus years?

02:15:37.000 Killing black men with syphilis secret, the atomic soldiers, the ringworm children in Israel where they radiated 110,000, the Manhattan Project kept secret with over 100,000 people involved. 0.68

02:15:48.000 Come on! 0.98

02:15:49.000 The people who were involved in that and black ops know they'd be killed the minute they went public.

02:15:54.000 Well, I mean, yeah, you talk about the Manhattan Project, and that's a very interesting example, but it's something that's quite different, because here, remember, 3,000 American citizens died, or American and citizens from other countries as well, including Britain.

02:16:08.000 So, you know, it's like, you seem to think that we're trying to cover something up.

02:16:14.000 You know, we're not covering anything up.

02:16:16.000 All we're doing is looking at the evidence in an objective, dispassionate way, and trying to test whether it stands up to determination.

02:16:23.000 John Smith!

02:16:24.000 No modern steel building, and you can show some two-story thing in England or some two-story thing that's tar-roofed in Chicago, no modern steel building has ever fallen.

02:16:34.000 Look at the Madrid, 100-foot white-hot flames, almost two days burning, no major steel members collapsed.

02:16:39.000 It's scientific.

02:16:41.000 Facts!

02:16:42.000 Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane, had small fires, and symmetrically collapsed.

02:16:48.000 You should give us evidence.

02:16:49.000 I just gave you the name of a police officer.

02:16:51.000 I just played CNN, where they're saying, get back, they're going to bring the building down, it's going to blow up.

02:16:56.000 Now, what more?

02:16:57.000 I mean, I could go on for hours with these clips, and you will not address it!

02:17:01.000 No, it's not that I'm not addressing it.

02:17:03.000 I'm just saying that I don't believe that that evidence proves that there was a conspiracy to demolish World Trade Center 7.

02:17:10.000 And it's something, you know, I accept that we're not going to agree on this.

02:17:13.000 And that's fair enough.

02:17:14.000 And I'm very happy to come on the program and talk about my view and say, look, this is what we've found out.

02:17:20.000 If we had found evidence to show that it was demolished by explosives, you know, we would have put that in our film.

02:17:27.000 We're not trying to cover anything up here.

02:17:29.000 All I can say is that I don't believe the evidence that you're putting forward.

02:17:34.000 All right, stay there.

02:17:35.000 I'd like to hear how you don't believe it and walk through things with Dylan Avery and Paul Joseph Watson on the other side.

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02:21:57.000 Welcome back, Guy Smith.

02:21:59.000 I appreciate him joining us, spending time with us today.

02:22:01.000 BBC producer, director, Guy, I want to let Paul ask you questions.

02:22:07.000 Dylan Avery asked a question first.

02:22:08.000 We do appreciate your time.

02:22:09.000 In the next segment, it's a long 15-minute segment.

02:22:11.000 This is just a quick 5-minute one.

02:22:13.000 We'll let you run for a few minutes and I'll shut up and hear what you have to say.

02:22:16.000 But I'd like you to answer this question.

02:22:18.000 We've answered yours.

02:22:19.000 I kept begging you, please let me cover Operation Northwoods, the official U.S.

02:22:23.000 government plan to carry out 9-11 style attacks to blame it on a foreign enemy.

02:22:28.000 I said Gulf of Tonkin was staged, now declassified, Operation Ajax in Iran.

02:22:33.000 That's so important that there is a past M.O.

02:22:35.000 You know, the people who try to debunk us always say, why would they do it?

02:22:39.000 What would they gain?

02:22:40.000 Trillions in oil, billions in opium, control, military contracts, domestic police state, just like Hitler burned his own Reichstag. 0.70

02:22:48.000 You told me, no, Northwoods isn't going in here, it doesn't fit into it, it doesn't matter.

02:22:54.000 Now tell me why, if you made a film about the 9-11 Truth Movement, why you wouldn't cover the central issues of the history of government-sponsored terror and the history of plans to carry out terror against the American people.

02:23:06.000 Will you please answer that question?

02:23:08.000 Yes, indeed, Alex.

02:23:10.000 Operation Northwoods is fascinating, and from a historical point of view, it's a very interesting story.

02:23:17.000 But I have yet to see any evidence.

02:23:20.000 That links Operation Northwood to what happened on 9-11.

02:23:24.000 There's no doubt that the American government and other governments, no doubt the British government as well, has been involved in all sorts of operations in the past.

02:23:33.000 False flag operations, as you call it.

02:23:36.000 But I have no doubt.

02:23:37.000 I mean, as you mentioned, the Gulf of Tonkin is a very interesting example.

02:23:43.000 But I have no evidence And I have yet to see any convincing theories that show that what happened with the proposal of Operation Northwoods was put into practice on 9-11.

02:23:56.000 Well, this is why it's important, Guy.

02:23:58.000 Okay?

02:23:59.000 And you make a valid point.

02:24:00.000 This is why it's important.

02:24:01.000 Let's say a six-foot-two, gray-haired man with a red birthmark on his left cheek is videotaped robbing a bank and pistol-whipping a clerk.

02:24:13.000 And then the police run through a database of mug books and they notice that a bank robber, who fits that description, got out of prison six months ago and lives in the area.

02:24:22.000 And they go by his house and they pull him over when he leaves and he's got the cash in the trunk.

02:24:27.000 If you've got people that have done this before and plan to do this, my goodness, I think that's pretty darn important!

02:24:33.000 What do you think?

02:24:34.000 Well, I think that Operation Northwoods was a very interesting subject.

02:24:39.000 You know, it's something that was talked about more than 40 years ago.

02:24:43.000 Just because there was this plan more than 40 years ago, which, you know, I don't deny, you're absolutely right, it existed.

02:24:49.000 Although, of course, it wasn't actually adopted by the President.

02:24:52.000 Well, it was green-lighted and Kennedy said no and then got his head blown off.

02:24:55.000 And let me guess, you don't think the government was involved in killing Kennedy, right?

02:24:59.000 Well, that's a whole other story.

02:25:00.000 I don't know, to be honest, because I haven't investigated the Canadian fascination.

02:25:04.000 Well, the debunkers are losing because 92% of Americans in major polls know the truth now, Guy.

02:25:09.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know about JFK, to be honest, but what I do know is that I haven't seen any evidence that links Operation Northwoods to what happened at 9/11.

02:25:20.000 There's no doubt, as I said before, that there are lots of operations that have happened in the past that have been carried out by the American government and other governments that are very unsavory.

02:25:29.000 But that doesn't mean to say that 9/11 was one of those operations, because I haven't seen the evidence If you show me the evidence, then I'll believe it. 1.00

02:25:36.000 It shows that they've planned this before and they've carried out operations before.

02:25:40.000 What it shows is that 40 years ago there were people who thought that things like this could be done and should be done.

02:25:47.000 And then in 64, it was done with Tonkin.

02:25:50.000 And in 67, it was done with the Liberty.

02:25:53.000 And similar things, Operation Gladio in Europe.

02:25:56.000 But let's just go back.

02:25:58.000 It doesn't prove that the present occupants of the White House, and I'm not defending them anyway, I'm just saying I haven't seen the evidence.

02:26:04.000 Why were British SAS members last year dressed up like Arabs driving around shooting people with plastic explosives? 0.96

02:26:10.000 Well, let's just keep on Operation Northwoods.

02:26:13.000 All I'm saying is that just because there was this plan 40 years ago, it doesn't prove that the current occupants of the White House dusted it off and put it into practice in 2008.

02:26:24.000 Even though PNAC said we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event and Brzezinski said we needed a Pearl Harbor event.

02:26:31.000 By the way, Brzezinski said two weeks ago in congressional testimony that there may be a false flag attack blamed on Iran in this country.

02:26:39.000 Well, I think the PNAC report didn't say we should have a Pearl Harbor event.

02:26:43.000 It said it would help, minus that catalyzing event.

02:26:47.000 And then Brzezinski said it would help.

02:26:50.000 I don't think it says, actually, it would help.

02:26:52.000 I think what it says is that it wouldn't happen unless there was a Pearl Harbor... Gee, we want to invade these countries. 0.94

02:26:58.000 It won't happen unless this happens.

02:27:00.000 We need to use this disaster for a new world order.

02:27:02.000 Well, I mean, I hear what you're saying.

02:27:05.000 I guess people who disagree with what you're saying would say, If it really was then a plot, why would the PNAC report writers publish their report in advance and put it all over the internet?

02:27:16.000 Because they're arrogant! 0.51

02:27:17.000 Stay there! 0.92

02:27:18.000 I apologize to Paul and Dylan.

02:27:20.000 We will go to you guys.

02:27:21.000 You can have the floor and questions for Guy Smith on the other side.

02:27:24.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:25.000 Thank you for joining us, guys.

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02:32:05.000 Yeah, they're empty with the priors Our guest is Guy Smith, BBC producer, director We appreciate him coming on and letting us go over the piece that he put out.

02:32:18.000 And now I'd like to give Dylan Avery a chance to ask a few questions and then of course Guy can ask questions of him or make statements if he'd like and then Paul Watson to come back in.

02:32:28.000 Dylan Avery, producer of Loose Change 1 and 2.

02:32:31.000 That, by the way, we carry at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, where you can watch for free at Google Video, as well as my film, Terror Storm.

02:32:39.000 Let's now go to Guy Smith.

02:32:41.000 Dylan, do you have any questions or comments for him?

02:32:44.000 Yeah, my first one is, how can I drop out of something I never attended?

02:32:50.000 Well, your narrator referred to me as a self-professed dropout, indicating that I actually went to college and stopped attending.

02:32:57.000 When in reality, I applied for Purchase College twice, and because the film program there is entirely selective, I was not selected.

02:33:04.000 So in all of your research, I found it interesting that you couldn't even get the facts about me right.

02:33:09.000 And of course, that's been one of the rumors is that you're this evil dropout.

02:33:12.000 I mean, you know, so is Bill Gates and Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney for that matter.

02:33:16.000 But the point is, is that you'd mentioned earlier you thought that would be in the piece.

02:33:20.000 Yeah, guy, you talk about he's a self-professed dropout, but you don't have video of Dylan saying he's a dropout because he never went to college.

02:33:28.000 Yeah, I know Dylan didn't go to college.

02:33:29.000 I guess the way we use the term dropout in English, I don't know about American, is somebody who doesn't go the conventional route.

02:33:38.000 It doesn't mean literally that you dropped out of college because I know that you... Let me bring Paul Watson up.

02:33:43.000 He's English, okay?

02:33:44.000 Let's bring Paul Watson from Sheffield on.

02:33:47.000 Paul, does dropout mean you never went to college?

02:33:50.000 No, dropout implies explicitly that you went to university and were not able to complete the course, ergo you dropped out.

02:33:58.000 That's what it means in America, that's what it means in England.

02:34:01.000 Well, it can also mean that you drop out of a system or you drop out of society, you know, it can mean lots of things.

02:34:07.000 Well, that's a new one on me.

02:34:08.000 Okay, well, listen, I am a college dropout, even though I had a 3.8 grade average because I didn't need it.

02:34:14.000 Now, Steve Watson that works in our research department has a master's degree in political science and foreign affairs, so he thinks it's an inside job too, but he has a master's degree, is it okay now?

02:34:25.000 No, I'm not trying to dissuade anybody from believing it's an inside job.

02:34:31.000 If you want to believe it's an inside job, that's fine, that's up to you, and I fully accept that you have a right to think that all i can say is that we investigated the story we looked into it we didn't find the evidence that supports that theory and and and that that's all you know uh there's nothing more to it than that well you know what maybe paul uh in in in sheffield it means different so maybe somebody from london born and bred london call in 1-800-259-9231

02:35:01.000 Let us know, does drop out mean never went to college?

02:35:04.000 Because in my book that's not what it means and Paul says you're incorrect.

02:35:07.000 Come on guy, we know it's a snipet, Dylan Avery, you know, like he's some gutter snipe miscreant out there rubbing his oily hands together and attacking the beautiful crown's operation.

02:35:19.000 Well, I would say on the contrary.

02:35:21.000 We interviewed Dylan for the film and we showed how his film has had enormous impact and has been viewed tens of millions of times all around the world.

02:35:29.000 And we were trying to make a serious point.

02:35:31.000 We were showing how Now, conspiracy theories can proliferate through the internet in a way that they couldn't have done in the past.

02:35:38.000 Do you think there should be some type of regulation to stop this type of hateful spread?

02:35:42.000 No, no, not at all.

02:35:44.000 I absolutely... I think it's a very healthy thing for society.

02:35:47.000 And I think it's great that you're talking about it, and that's why I'm very happy to come on your show.

02:35:52.000 Because I think it's good that we should talk about all these things.

02:35:55.000 I think that's really important, and that's why we made the program.

02:35:58.000 Okay, fair enough.

02:35:58.000 Dylan, any other questions?

02:36:00.000 Dylan, any other questions?

02:36:02.000 Man, Alex, I got tons of questions.

02:36:04.000 My first one is, you know, Guy, your narrator makes a lot of jabs about how we're disrespecting the family members and how we're going to continue to ask questions no matter how much it displeases the victims.

02:36:15.000 Have you ever heard of the Jersey Girls?

02:36:17.000 Maybe the Family Steering Committee?

02:36:19.000 Maybe Bill Doyle?

02:36:20.000 Maybe Bob McElveen?

02:36:22.000 The list of names... The head of the biggest victims family group who lost his son in the attacks said that he believes it's an inside job.

02:36:32.000 We have the transcript and the audio on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:36:34.000 And he said this last year.

02:36:35.000 He said that more than half of his members believe it's an inside job.

02:36:39.000 So what do you say to that, Guy?

02:36:41.000 Well, what I say is that I accept that they have the right to that view.

02:36:44.000 All I can say is that we didn't come to that conclusion.

02:36:48.000 Yes, there'll be many people who are families of victims who support the conspiracy theories, claiming that it was an inside job.

02:36:55.000 The official story's a conspiracy theory, Guy!

02:36:58.000 You claimed two passports, fell out of the sky at ground zero, unburned, and then the FBI had to retract that?

02:37:04.000 They planted those passports!

02:37:07.000 Well, I haven't seen any evidence to prove that those passports were planted.

02:37:11.000 I've seen lots of theories on the internet.

02:37:14.000 No, the FBI has now said that they didn't find the passports.

02:37:18.000 You didn't know that?

02:37:20.000 Well, I think the passports, as I understand it, were found by passers-by and handed in to the FBI.

02:37:27.000 Oh my gosh, just like all the confession letters.

02:37:30.000 Hey, I tried to get you to talk about how the Dean of the Defense Language School said three of the hijackers trained in a secret program in 2000 in Monterey, California.

02:37:39.000 I tried to get you to cover Newsweek, where hijackers were reportedly trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station.

02:37:44.000 I tried to get you to interview Mr. Springman, the former head of the U.S.

02:37:47.000 Embassy, who was told to let them into the U.S.

02:37:49.000 They're really anti-terror fighters, and that their terror designation is a cover.

02:37:54.000 Guy, why didn't that make it in the film?

02:37:56.000 Well, there are over 50 different conspiracy theories around 9-11.

02:38:00.000 That's admitted, sir!

02:38:02.000 They started court-martialing the head of the Defense Language School until he said he would shut up about it.

02:38:09.000 I talked to him!

02:38:12.000 What's the bottom line that you're trying to say, Alex?

02:38:15.000 Are you saying that we're part of this conspiracy?

02:38:18.000 Well, I'm saying that just like people in Russia or Germany or China couldn't believe the government had gone bad, and then later they had to admit it, I think that you have a preconceived notion, a preconceived view,

02:38:33.000 And I'm saying you disregarded most of the key evidence like 44,000 US troops and 18,000 British troops massed in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan in the four months before 9-11 and Newsweek and Associated Press reporting that Bush the day before the attacks had the launch orders to attack Afghanistan on his desk.

02:38:52.000 I mean, it's very difficult to answer them, some of these points, because what you're doing is you're quoting things that you claim that you've heard, and there's some things that are on the internet and... No, they're mainstream... Okay, let me stop you right there.

02:39:05.000 What about the two FBI agents that went to prison for insider trading before 9-11?

02:39:13.000 I don't know the details of that particular story, but I do know that there are a lot of stories that are circulating on the internet that are not based on fact.

02:39:24.000 They're based on supposition.

02:39:25.000 You're not basing that on fact.

02:39:27.000 You're not giving facts.

02:39:27.000 Let me just go back here.

02:39:29.000 Do you know where the story of the Israelis not being in the building came from?

02:39:31.000 It came from Harots and the Jerusalem Post, because Odigo instant messaging head said, yes, we got a call that something was going to happen, get our people out of the building, and most 9-11 researchers say that Israel clearly wasn't running the attacks.

02:39:46.000 May have been in some small support role because MI6, Mossad, Chinmet, CIA are all joined at the hip.

02:39:51.000 That's a real report that indeed there were warnings.

02:39:55.000 The Arabs weren't in the buildings either because they had warnings and there were locals doing insider trading.

02:40:00.000 Everybody seemed to know about it.

02:40:02.000 The buildings were at half capacity that day.

02:40:04.000 Well, all I can say, Alex, is that that's a view.

02:40:07.000 I don't share that view from the research that we have done.

02:40:10.000 What view?

02:40:11.000 Are you denying that Odigo's head was in the newspapers in Israel saying they got a warning?

02:40:15.000 Clearly showing they weren't involved because they were public, going, yeah, we got warnings.

02:40:19.000 I think what you have done here, Alex, is you've raised a very interesting and important point, and that is that much of what is on the internet about 9-11 is based on news reports.

02:40:29.000 Now, those news reports are not necessarily always accurate.

02:40:33.000 What happens, as we've seen with the conspiracy theory alleging that 4,000 Jews didn't turn up for work that day, is that the story gets into the media and then it gets twisted and distorted, like we call in England, Chinese whispers, and it just continues and proliferates and becomes more and more complicated.

02:40:51.000 And what we tried to do in our research was to go back to primary sources, to eyewitnesses.

02:40:57.000 Why, correct?

02:40:58.000 And we presented that information.

02:41:01.000 Now, I fully accept that many people who are listening to your program won't accept that.

02:41:05.000 All I'm asking people to do, I guess, is to watch our program with an open mind and come to their end conclusions.

02:41:12.000 Some people may agree with us and some people may disagree.

02:41:16.000 Let me get a comment from Paul Watson.

02:41:17.000 It's a good, healthy debate in a democratic society.

02:41:20.000 Sure.

02:41:21.000 Paul Watson, you've got more comments?

02:41:22.000 Well, Mr. Smith says, let people come to their own conclusions.

02:41:26.000 How is that possible when the program is laden with so much bias?

02:41:30.000 We keep hearing this word objective.

02:41:33.000 My question is...

02:41:35.000 How can Mr. Smith justify using this strong implication on numerous occasions throughout the documentary that questioning the official story of 9-11 is insulting and hurtful to the victims?

02:41:47.000 How can he justify such a blatant and cynical attempt to emotionally sway the viewer when we've had Bill Doyle on the program, who is the largest representative, the largest group of 9-11 families, and it was a government cover-up in itself in the very hours after 9-11 The result of which, now we have a situation where 20% of the first responders are dying from that government cover-up.

02:42:09.000 And by the way, major medical institutions admit their lungs are full of asbestos and concrete, and we have the internal EPA documents where they were ordered to shut it down and cover it up.

02:42:20.000 That's been in all the major US newspapers, and we were called conspiracy theorists on that.

02:42:26.000 The truth is, every time the government does something wrong, they just say we're conspiracy theorists.

02:42:30.000 Mr. Smith?

02:42:31.000 Yeah, let me go back to the point that Paul was making.

02:42:35.000 Yes, there are some relatives who are very much in favor of what you're doing and suggesting that this is an inside job.

02:42:43.000 The majority!

02:42:44.000 But there are also many relatives of victims of 9-11 who find what you're doing deeply abhorrent.

02:42:50.000 But you claimed it was all of them!

02:42:52.000 You implied it was all of them!

02:42:55.000 It's the bias.

02:42:56.000 Well, I didn't imply it was all of them.

02:42:57.000 We said that we had talked to many relatives who... You did imply he's a dropout, you did imply it was all of them, you had some psychological test on there where basically you're a bunch of shut-in nuts and it's a religion, and you had some fiction writer get up there from the Lone Gunman and the X-Files for the show, the producer, and basically say that it's a religion that we have.

02:43:20.000 No sir, Steel doesn't melt until over 2700 degrees, and there were people in the wounds of those buildings, waving, begging for help, and then giant columns severed right next to them, and then there was molten steel.

02:43:31.000 That's a fact.

02:43:33.000 Well, I mean, again, I come back to the fundamental point.

02:43:39.000 You're saying that it was an inside job carried out by the American government to start a war for oil in the Middle East and in Asia.

02:43:47.000 And, you know, I hear that view, and I accept that there are many people who believe that view.

02:43:53.000 All I can say is that having looked at the story, having researched the story, having talked to many eyewitnesses, Those are buzzwords.

02:44:01.000 We don't come to the same conclusion in our program.

02:44:04.000 Hey, I've played eyewitnesses saying, get back, they're going to blow up the building.

02:44:06.000 And I've got a bunch of other clips I can play.

02:44:09.000 I give the actual witnesses, I give names, we sent you police officers, we sent you people, and you didn't interview them, and you make these large, broad-brush statements about how you've disproven what we've said, and it isn't true.

02:44:22.000 Does Mr. Smith admit that there was a bias in editing before the editing of his program, and that he had already come to the conclusion Uh, that he chose to support the side of the debunkers.

02:44:32.000 Does he admit that back?

02:44:33.000 Yeah, he told me that at P.F.

02:44:34.000 Chang's restaurant, that he didn't agree with me about this stuff.

02:44:37.000 He doesn't agree about Dr. Kelly?

02:44:38.000 That's biased!

02:44:39.000 That's not balanced!

02:44:41.000 You're held to a higher standard as a BBC journalist to produce the Balance Programme, and you've already come to a bias before you've even finished the filming.

02:44:49.000 Do you admit that?

02:44:52.000 We went into this project with an open mind, and let's face it, if supposing during our research we had found that some of these conspiracy theories were true, We would have certainly put that into the film, because actually, it would have made a much more dramatic and sensational film.

02:45:07.000 We'd be all over the front page of the newspapers this morning.

02:45:10.000 Yeah, and then Blair wouldn't take a bunch of your funding again and make your director resign. 0.88

02:45:15.000 Nobody's trying to censor us.

02:45:17.000 Oh, come on! 0.99

02:45:18.000 Everybody knows they've been censoring the BBC!

02:45:23.000 Hell, in your country, they arrested Robin Page for saying that rural communities deserve rights! 1.00

02:45:29.000 I can absolutely give you an assurance that nobody is trying to censor what we were saying in this program.

02:45:35.000 And if we had found through our objective research some evidence to back up the theory that World Trade Center 7 was demolished or United 93 didn't crash at Shanksville, then we would have put that into the program.

02:45:49.000 Mr. Smith, your conclusions were not based on the evidence.

02:45:52.000 They were based on portraying Dylan Avery and Alex Jones as a kind of religious cult.

02:45:56.000 You called Alex an evangelical preacher, basically.

02:45:59.000 And then you cut to the X-Files guy saying we're a religion.

02:46:05.000 He was talking about why people believe in conspiracy theories nowadays, and I think he made a very valid point about how, in the past, We found it difficult to understand what was going on in our world, so we created myths, and now what we're doing is much the same sort of thing.

02:46:22.000 9-11's a myth! 1.00

02:46:24.000 The official story is a fraud, Mr. Smith. 0.98

02:46:27.000 It's ridiculous.

02:46:29.000 NIST has given five different reasons Building 7 fell, and now they're saying it could have been because of explosions.

02:46:36.000 Can I ask you a question, Alex?

02:46:39.000 Sure.

02:46:41.000 I hear what you're saying, and there are many people who will agree with you, but some of the people who oppose what you're saying and who disagree with what you're saying may ask this question, and that is, why is it that nobody in the five years since 9-11 who is involved in that conspiracy has come forward to admit their part in it?

02:47:01.000 Because it would only take a few hundred people to run the op.

02:47:04.000 Many people that were involved, I believe they were involved in a simulation.

02:47:08.000 That's how they bootleg it.

02:47:10.000 And they've done this many, many times.

02:47:11.000 Let me give you an example.

02:47:12.000 Stop! 1.00

02:47:12.000 Let me answer your question. 1.00

02:47:14.000 Let me answer your question.

02:47:15.000 Five thousand plus U.S.

02:47:16.000 troops died from 1959 to 1964 when the Vietnam War officially kicked off.

02:47:22.000 And they didn't announce until 1965 A year after the war was really on, that thousands had died in covert operations previously.

02:47:31.000 Thousands of U.S.

02:47:32.000 troops have died in Colombia in the last 10 years, and that's only barely come out.

02:47:37.000 Okay?

02:47:38.000 They covered up, until they wanted to, 5,000 dead U.S.

02:47:43.000 troops, just like the Russians covered up their true losses in Afghanistan.

02:47:47.000 So don't tell me for a minute they can't keep black ops secret.

02:47:51.000 I am absolutely convinced that if there was a Black Ops, as you say, on 9-11, it first of all would have involved not just hundreds but thousands of people.

02:48:01.000 And I'm quite sure that that Black Ops would have leaked by now.

02:48:05.000 That people, you know, tell their wives, they tell their girlfriends, they tell their priests they feel guilty about what they've done.

02:48:12.000 This was a black ops operation, if what you say is true, that was against the American people. 0.79

02:48:18.000 I'm absolutely certain that that story would have leaked out by now.

02:48:22.000 People would have talked.

02:48:23.000 It has been leaking.

02:48:24.000 It has been leaking with firefighters and police talking about how they were told to get back that they were going to blow up building 7.

02:48:30.000 And more and more is going to leak.

02:48:32.000 And people like Sybil Edmonds who want to talk have been gagged. 1.00

02:48:35.000 And FBI agent Robert Wright has been told he'll be arrested if he tells people what he knows.

02:48:40.000 All he said is the Bushes vacation with the Bin Ladens. 1.00

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02:51:48.000 Guy Smith, I only have one more question for you, and then Paul's got a question, and Dylan does.

02:51:53.000 We appreciate you spending an hour with us.

02:51:55.000 We want you to know that we see what the piece did, tugging on the heartstrings.

02:51:59.000 Oh, look how we're putting all this out.

02:52:01.000 It's not going to work.

02:52:02.000 We're going to totally dissect it 110%.

02:52:05.000 But you didn't get into Pakistan ISI.

02:52:08.000 You didn't get into $100,000 wired to Muhammad Ata.

02:52:11.000 You didn't cover any of that.

02:52:13.000 And people are going to look at that.

02:52:17.000 Are you a little concerned now over the huge furor this has created, or do you like it?

02:52:21.000 No, not at all.

02:52:22.000 I think it's great that people are discussing this subject, and it's a really good thing that people are coming to their own conclusions.

02:52:30.000 And I absolutely accept that many people will believe that there are conspiracy theories that are true, and that's good, that's fine.

02:52:37.000 You keep using that little pacifier, your blanket, that it's a conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory.

02:52:45.000 No, corruption and evil in the global empire.

02:52:47.000 Do you believe there's a one world government being formed?

02:52:49.000 I mean, do you even know that's real?

02:52:52.000 Well, I don't know whether there's a one-world government being formed or not.

02:52:57.000 The brief of our program was to look at what happened at 9-11.

02:53:00.000 Yeah, but I had dinner with you.

02:53:02.000 You don't think Dr. Kelly was killed even when he said he was.

02:53:05.000 You don't think Diana was killed by the government even when she said it.

02:53:07.000 I mean, she said, Charles says he's going to kill me in a fake auto accident, and you just poo-poo that. 0.53

02:53:11.000 I mean, that'd be like if I said, Billy Bob says he's going to kill me with a battle axe.

02:53:15.000 and I'm killed a week later and people saw Billy Bob walking away.

02:53:18.000 Oh no, Billy Bob's not involved.

02:53:19.000 Let's go ahead and go to Paul.

02:53:22.000 Paul, quickly fire your final questions at his lordship.

02:53:25.000 Well, in a sense, Mr. Smith tags us with the label of conspiracy theories when he supports the official conspiracy theory.

02:53:34.000 And in doing so, he uses a sole clip of a firefighter on 9-11 discussing damage to Building 7's sprinkler system, while omitting literally dozens and dozens of reports, both footage and from the official firefighter tapes.

02:53:50.000 who reported bombs at all levels of the Twin Towers and Building 7, and that is not part of his documentary, which suggests clear bias, because he's using individual clips.

02:54:02.000 Yeah, he keeps saying, show evidence, we show it, and then he ignores it.

02:54:08.000 The evidence that we presented in the program is the evidence that we believe to be credible.

02:54:13.000 There are many stories that World Trade Center 7 was demolished by explosives.

02:54:18.000 I have yet to see any credible evidence that stands that theory up.

02:54:22.000 Just as I have yet to see any... So the fact that it's supporting bombs is not credible?

02:54:25.000 You didn't even mention it.

02:54:27.000 You didn't even mention it.

02:54:28.000 You didn't even have to conclude that it was right.

02:54:30.000 You could have just mentioned it.

02:54:32.000 But it's not a balanced piece, Guy.

02:54:34.000 It's a biased piece.

02:54:36.000 And everyone can see that.

02:54:38.000 Well, it's interesting because as well as hearing from the likes of you, I've also had many emails and calls from people who are saying that we're giving too much air time to the conspiracy theories.

02:54:49.000 So I guess, you know, it's like one can't please everyone all the time.

02:54:53.000 No, no, we understand and I appreciate you at least coming on this show.

02:54:57.000 Real fast, Bill, and every final question.

02:55:00.000 Yeah, you know, throughout the documentary and throughout this interview, Guy talks a lot about following the evidence and how he feels that he covered the 9-11 truth movement, when in reality, as you mentioned, Alex, there was a glaring omission from this BBC documentary that any objective documentary would have covered.

02:55:15.000 Although he lauded the fact that two of the hijackers live with a tested FBI informant, he refused to ask Senator Bob Graham why, on the morning of 9-11, he was meeting with George Tenet of the CIA and the head of the Pakistani ISI, who had wired Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker, $100,000 right before the attacks.

02:55:33.000 Yeah, the role of the Pakistani ISI is a fascinating story, and that's actually something that we could well be returning to in another program.

02:55:41.000 We might be making a whole program about that connection between Pakistan and the hijackers. 1.00

02:55:47.000 Getting another bucket of white paint out for that, huh?

02:55:50.000 I'd say watch this space, because that is a very interesting story.

02:55:53.000 Guy Smith, I appreciate you spending time with us, and I hope to get you back up in the future in the next few months as this develops.

02:56:00.000 Can we have you back on?

02:56:02.000 Yeah, I'll be happy to come back on.

02:56:03.000 And I think if I could just say one final thing very quickly, and that is the good thing that it's great to talk about these subjects.

02:56:08.000 It's great to air different points of view.

02:56:11.000 It is.

02:56:12.000 I appreciate you coming on.

02:56:13.000 It's good to get us thinking.

02:56:14.000 I want to thank Paul Watson, Dylan Avery.

02:56:15.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:17.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:18.000 PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

02:56:20.000 Google Terror Storm.

02:56:21.000 Terror Storm.

Alex Jones Show - February 19, 2007

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