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00:03:22.000 Al Qaeda number three says he planned 9-11.

00:03:25.000 and 9/11.

00:03:28.000 And then you read into the story the report and he says he carried out the 93 bombing.

00:03:38.000 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and I studied the case, interviewed the experts involved, they never said he had anything to do with it ever.

00:03:49.000 I mean, even the people the government claims were involved had no connection to him.

00:03:53.000 The FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver, and when the informant tried to activate the sting, he thought it was a sting, they said, no, Mac, the bombing goes ahead.

00:04:05.000 Now, that's been in the New York Times, it was on CBS Nightly News, we even have some of the tapes the government released, where the bomber's saying, look, you told me to cook the bomb, why aren't you stopping them?

00:04:17.000 This is unbelievable.

00:04:18.000 So, pretty soon they're going to claim that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed killed Lincoln in the theater and not John Wilkes Booth.

00:04:30.000 I mean, this is... Maybe he was behind Napoleon.

00:04:33.000 Maybe he was behind Hitler. 0.92

00:04:35.000 Maybe he was behind crucifying Christ.

00:04:39.000 Why, he probably was really the snake in the garden that slithered down out of a tree and said, take a bite of this, baby.

00:04:45.000 We're going to go on a wild ride.

00:04:47.000 And so, she and Khalid Mohammed will break down an incredible analysis by Paul J. Watson.

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00:08:14.000 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has taken credit for the great Bowie Bowl infestation of 1947.

00:08:21.000 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has taken credit for a crooked toenail your grandma had when she was five years old that hurt.

00:08:30.000 He has taken credit for killing Kennedy, Lincoln, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and everything else.

00:08:38.000 I mean, if you're going to believe what you've been told, By the White House, with their history of lying, their history of planting evidence, of manufacturing false documents on Niger Yellow Cake out of whole cloth, if you think a secret military tribunal that redacted much of the confession itself and they admittedly have tortured this guy.

00:09:04.000 And then they're so arrogant, they have him confess to everything, not two or three things, but 29 major events and hundreds of other plans.

00:09:15.000 It is literally off the chart.

00:09:18.000 Here's the Associated Press, and it says that, I was responsible for 9-11 Operation A to Z, Mohammed said in a statement read during the session, which was held last Saturday, The transcripts also refer to a claim by Mohammed that he was tortured by the CIA, although he said he was not under duress at the U.S.

00:09:42.000 Naval Base in Guantanamo when he confessed to his role in the attacks.

00:09:47.000 So, earlier it had come out that he'd been tortured, and everybody already knew that, and the government had gotten in trouble, but now, just, well, they tortured me, but that's not why I'm saying this.

00:09:55.000 And if you believe this confession, you've got to believe our airmen shot down by the North Vietnamese, who went up there and basically lied for the Communists. 0.71

00:10:05.000 And remember the famous case of them blinking torture, torture with Morse code?

00:10:09.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:10:12.000 No, they were bad, like the North Vietnamese said.

00:10:15.000 Because torture's good, and you can trust a government that tortures.

00:10:18.000 Of course, the North Vietnamese and all of their corruption, Corruption of government, period. 1.00

00:10:24.000 Never wrote White House memos like Gonzalez did saying children could be tortured or what his deputy wrote saying they could be sexually tortured.

00:10:35.000 In a section of the statement that was blacked out, he confessed to the beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

00:10:41.000 The Associated Press has learned Pearl was abducted in January 2002 in Pakistan while researching a story on Islamic militancy.

00:10:49.000 Mohammed has long been a suspect in the killing.

00:10:53.000 Using his own words, the extraordinary transcripts connected Mohammed to dozens of the worst terror plots attempted or carried out in the last 15 years and to others that have not been occurred.

00:11:05.000 Also, all told, thousands died in operations he directed.

00:11:10.000 His words draw Al-Qaeda closer to plots of the early 1990s than the group has previously been connected to.

00:11:17.000 Oh! 0.60

00:11:17.000 Including a 93 World Trade Center truck bomb, six people with links to global networks that were convicted in federal court and sentenced to life in prison. 0.60

00:11:29.000 So, there you go.

00:11:31.000 Oh, and they were behind Richard Reed, too, and they were behind just everything.

00:11:36.000 Ladies and gentlemen, in the FBI's own cases, even in their official lie, there was never a connection to Al-Qaeda.

00:11:47.000 Never a connection.

00:11:49.000 Never even a tenuous one.

00:11:51.000 In fact, the only group that we see directing and financing and building bombs and giving them detonators is the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

00:12:07.000 Period.

00:12:08.000 And I am just outraged by the fact that they would add this into it.

00:12:13.000 And there's four or five others out of the 29 where we know that even the CIA front group, Al Qaeda, And basically it's just a name, a term, that then any real terror can be attached to. 0.95

00:12:26.000 And there are real Muslim terrorists. 0.99

00:12:28.000 There are real Muslims that target civilian populations. 1.00

00:12:32.000 And our government's terrorists, too. 0.96

00:12:33.000 It drops cluster bombs on cities.

00:12:35.000 That is terrorism.

00:12:36.000 It is terrorism to attack innocents.

00:12:39.000 It was terrorism when Hitler bombed London, and it was terrorism when the US and England bombed Dresden, killing over half a million Germans in one night, most of them children, because it had been an agreed-upon sanctuary city. 0.59

00:12:55.000 So, terrorism is terrorism, ladies and gentlemen.

00:13:01.000 Now, let's go ahead and get into Paul Joseph Watson's analysis of this piece.

00:13:09.000 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he abbreviates him to KSM, the ultimate pansy confesses. 0.99

00:13:14.000 Go back to sleep.

00:13:16.000 You can trust a press release from a heavily redacted secret military tribunal of a tortured detainee conducted by individuals Representative of an oligarchy whose every deception, gross violation of U.S.

00:13:30.000 law, and act of imperial bloodletting over the last six years rest on maintaining the orthodoxy of the official 9-11 myth.

00:13:41.000 And it goes on, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged Al-Qaeda mastermind, has confessed to direct involvement in a myriad of terrorist attacks and assassination plots around the world, including 9-11, from A to Z, but some are likely to be disappointed that after five years of torture, he stopped short of accepting responsibility for killing Kennedy, creating AIDS, and being the real Santa Claus.

00:14:10.000 I like that.

00:14:12.000 The Pentagon's press release was subject to editing on behalf of the U.S.

00:14:15.000 Department of Defense to remove any sensitive material that Khalid might have unwittingly revealed between his waterboarding sessions, but I'm sure we can trust the same gaggle of criminals that lectured us on WMDs and accidentally misplaced over $2 trillion. 0.60

00:14:33.000 It's now almost $4 trillion.

00:14:36.000 That was $3.9 trillion last year.

00:14:37.000 It's over $4 trillion now.

00:14:41.000 They say that they won't tell you where it is.

00:14:42.000 The Pentagon just says we won't tell you. 0.99

00:14:44.000 And we have the nukes, so shut up! 0.56

00:14:47.000 Have you noticed troops are drilling in your major cities? 1.00

00:14:49.000 Slaves?

00:14:52.000 And Thomas Barnett, the Naval War College futurist, comes out and says we work for Wall Street and the New World Order.

00:14:59.000 You know, and Gordon Brown, the conservative leader, says we're going to have a one world government, new world order to implement the global warming system, and the debunkers say we're lying, there's no world government, just everything's fine, ha ha, everything's wonderful.

00:15:15.000 In the document, KSM confesses to almost every nasty thing that has happened in the world over the past twenty years, as well as formulating plots to assassinate Clinton, Carter, and the Pope. 0.50

00:15:25.000 It's just a shame that the torture masters were not given more time to really put the screws to Khalid, because then we may have found out that he was also responsible for the Challenger disaster and the O.J. 0.76

00:15:35.000 Simpson murders.

00:15:36.000 Uh, yeah, think of... and Paul, this is a good article you wrote.

00:15:39.000 It's cynical, it's pointing out with satire how ridiculous this is, but And I know you get into serious analysis later, but we need another short piece that just shows lies and focuses in on 93 bombing and the fact that they admit he was tortured for four years.

00:15:57.000 The government admits they tortured him four years to break him!

00:16:03.000 Four years!

00:16:06.000 I mean, this is incredible!

00:16:08.000 I mean, folks, if the government grabs me and a month later I come out, you know, saying that I'm Al Qaeda, I mean, please know that's not true.

00:16:18.000 I mean, I'd probably break in a month of waterboarding.

00:16:20.000 I'm a pretty tough guy.

00:16:22.000 You know, I've had a bone sticking out of me and I've had, you know, I've been in car wrecks and had my teeth loosened and been hit upside the head with a post hole digger.

00:16:32.000 But I've certainly, you know, pain's pain and I'd cry uncle real fast.

00:16:38.000 Unbelievable. 0.91

00:16:40.000 These Muslims, though, don't break too easy. 1.00

00:16:42.000 You've got to start smearing them with pig blood and then having the prostitutes come in. 1.00

00:16:48.000 By the way, some website was attacking me, saying I claimed that they were putting blood on them. 0.98

00:16:54.000 You're lucky I didn't go into details. 0.94

00:16:56.000 It was in mainstream news three years ago that they have prostitutes with... I can't say it on air, okay?

00:17:04.000 I really am not going to, because children listen.

00:17:07.000 And, uh, it's just unbelievable.

00:17:10.000 So, quote, it is not clear why Mohammed would have wished to confess to such a wide-ranging number of outrages, reports The Guardian.

00:17:19.000 The alleged confession is likely, however, to stiffen the resolve of the Bush administration in pursuing its conventional policy of putting the biggest cases of suspected terrorism through the closed military hearings.

00:17:32.000 Secret hearings, secret tribunals at secret camps.

00:17:36.000 These are people that snatch men and women and children off the streets. 0.81

00:17:42.000 By the way, Paul, I want you to go pull the Washington Post article.

00:17:47.000 I believe it was From October 2001, where the CIA Section Chief for the Middle East, they didn't even give his name, it just said the CIA Section Chief, speaking under anonymity, to the Washington Post says that they grab family members and interrogate them to make a suspected terrorist answer questions.

00:18:09.000 And that was torture, and I don't want to talk about torture.

00:18:12.000 Well, now you've just got the Gonzales Memo saying they torture children.

00:18:16.000 Then you have the General Togumbo Report, the Army's own report admitting they torture children.

00:18:22.000 So there's no debating.

00:18:24.000 But again, that's what the good guys do, after all.

00:18:27.000 When you sit back in your easy chair and fantasize with Jack Bauer watching 24, the good guys torture.

00:18:38.000 It would be very clear why the establishment would be interested in hanging out the Ron Jeremy of terrorism to dry as a scapegoat for an official 9-11 story that holds about as much weight as a Milan catwalk model.

00:18:56.000 Okay, I guess that means it doesn't hold much weight.

00:18:59.000 But invoking the but-he-admitted-it line, any debate about the mountain of unanswered questions surrounding 9-11 is effectively silenced.

00:19:09.000 But this cuts both ways.

00:19:11.000 In his first interview following 9-11, Osama bin Laden denied any involvement in the attacks.

00:19:17.000 I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11th attacks in the United States as A Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie.

00:19:27.000 I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act.

00:19:36.000 Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and other people.

00:19:40.000 Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of battle.

00:19:44.000 Bin Laden told a Pakistani base We'll continue with this on the other side. 0.98

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00:24:35.000 So we have Bin Laden, the known CIA asset, I guess really trying to cover his rear end coming out and saying he didn't do it, but then all these fat Bin Laden tapes and fake Re-edited old videotapes which had aired in 99, 2000 and they always announce there's a new Bin Laden videotape and then a week later, a month later, oh that really was re-edited old tapes the government put out.

00:24:57.000 I mean, it's absolutely amazing.

00:25:00.000 Also, some of the Al-Qaeda tapes that have been released have turned out to be government simulations that they put out in secret trials and stuff.

00:25:09.000 Remember, four or five months ago, Steve Watson discovered that, and it was a huge story on the web, and then we just kind of forget about it.

00:25:17.000 Kind of like we forgot about Building 7 on BBC, 20-something minutes before it collapsed, they announced that it collapsed, and then they said the tapes had been lost, and then they turned out another BBC channel reported it, and CNN prescripting.

00:25:31.000 But let's continue.

00:25:33.000 If Bin Laden wasn't involved in the 9-11 attacks, then KSM confusion is rendered obsolete.

00:25:40.000 It all boils down to whether you trust a Pakistani newspaper or a press release from a heavily redacted secret military tribunal of a tortured detainee conducted by individuals representative of an oligarchy whose every deception, gross violation of U.S.

00:25:56.000 law, and act of imperial bloodletting over the last six years rest on maintaining the orthodoxy of the official 9-11 myth.

00:26:03.000 These are the people that lied about yellow cake and aluminum tubes and mobile weapons trucks.

00:26:10.000 And it goes on, but since Khalid has squealed on the A to Z of 9-11, perhaps he can provide some answers to a few troubling little questions that still have us 9-11 conspiracy nuts running around in circles.

00:26:25.000 Was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for the FBI ordering a 93 World Trade Center bombing to go ahead?

00:26:30.000 We have links to all the facts.

00:26:32.000 In his confession, KSM says he ran the attack, but fails to explain why it was the FBI who provided the terror cell with the bomb materials through their informant.

00:26:42.000 Just like Oklahoma City.

00:26:44.000 Was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for NORAD completely reversing its standard operating procedure on the day of 9-11?

00:26:50.000 Was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for the collapse of three steel buildings?

00:26:54.000 One that was not hit by a plane from fire damage alone from the first and only time in history?

00:27:00.000 Was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for warning, according to Newsweek, a group of top Pentagon officials to cancel their flights on the evening of September 10th to New York due to security concerns?

00:27:11.000 Was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for the record number of put options, speculation that the stock of a company would fall, that were placed on American and United in the three days pending September 11th?

00:27:24.000 This despite a September 10th Reuters report stating airline stocks set to fly.

00:27:31.000 Again, they put him on September 11th.

00:27:33.000 Continuing, was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for the FBI blocking anti-terrorist investigations before 9-11 related to the Bin Laden family and the Saudi charities that were front groups for Al-Qaeda?

00:27:44.000 Was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed responsible for advising the Secret Service not to remove President Bush from a completely unsecured Florida elementary school by letting them know he wasn't a target on 9-11?

00:27:57.000 I remain confident the next time KSM spills the beans, he will be able to fill in these gaps and further enlighten us on the real culprits behind some of history's enduring mysteries, including the disappearance of planes and ships and the Bermuda Triangle, the Chernobyl disaster, and why Britney Spears went insane.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, and let me just ask this question.

00:28:18.000 Will KSM be able to tell us why he wrote Operation Northwoods for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, L.L.

00:28:26.000 Lemonsir?

00:28:27.000 The official U.S.

00:28:28.000 government plan to carry out 9-11 type attacks?

00:28:31.000 Will he tell us why 44,000 and 18,000 British troops were massed in Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Pakistan and other countries and carrier task forces?

00:28:41.000 And why Bush had to launch order to attack Afghanistan on his desk?

00:28:45.000 MSNBC Newsweek Associated Press.

00:28:47.000 The day before 9-11, Can he explain to us why the head of Pakistani intelligence, General Mahmood Ahmed, wired $100,000 to the supposedly hijacker Mohammed Adam?

00:28:59.000 Can he explain to us why when Al-Qaeda members left the U.S.

00:29:03.000 to go to a Malaysian terror summit and tried to come back in, the U.S.

00:29:07.000 embassy heads were ordered to let them back in until they were really U.S.

00:29:10.000 government agents and their terror designation in the computer system was only a cover?

00:29:15.000 Uh, can they tell us why the Dean of the Defense Language School went public saying that he trained some of the hijackers?

00:29:20.000 Can he, uh, I mean, please, tell us.

00:29:22.000 Explain to me.

00:29:24.000 We need to add that to the story.

00:29:26.000 And, uh, we need to make a whole other article just basically stating how this is a fraud.

00:29:30.000 How, A, you can't trust it, information from torture.

00:29:33.000 B, the people doing this have a motive to lie.

00:29:35.000 C, they've been caught torturing people to lie.

00:29:38.000 They've been caught lying about everything else.

00:29:40.000 And, uh, I guess you can go down to Z here.

00:29:44.000 That just all these facts are complete frauds.

00:29:46.000 He couldn't have done all these things.

00:29:48.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:28.000 World War III Welcome back. 0.93

00:33:53.000 Alright, I'm told John Illinois disagrees.

00:33:55.000 We'll go to him first, then Norman, Vincent, Richard, Rhiann, and others that are patiently holding the toll-free number to join us.

00:34:02.000 It's always a good idea to give the number out.

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00:34:06.000 I really don't have much more to say about KSM.

00:34:10.000 We're going to cover it more tomorrow as we have time to analyze it.

00:34:14.000 But I did read, last night and today, probably 15 articles, and it's just It's impossible.

00:34:21.000 I mean, let's say Al Qaeda could carry out 9-11. 0.75

00:34:24.000 Make NORAD stand down, have the aircraft do maneuvers that weren't possible.

00:34:29.000 Do all these insane things.

00:34:31.000 This one man couldn't be behind all these other things. 0.99

00:34:35.000 I mean, it's just so ridiculous. 0.88

00:34:38.000 But, oh, they say it's too complex for the government to do. 0.92

00:34:42.000 But these guys who are hunted and living in caves, they can do it.

00:34:47.000 On its face, We need to point out an article that the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the drivers, guaranteed no debate, admitted in 93, and now we got the former deputy director of the FBI saying the government was involved, there's a cover-up, that there needs to be a new investigation, we got affidavits flying around, you know, listing that McVeigh was a black operator, we already knew that, and then you look at this case,

00:35:14.000 I mean, they claim that Sheikh Khalid Mohammed was involved in the 93.

00:35:18.000 That is just... We need to recap that, and we will do that tomorrow.

00:35:23.000 And I'm going to have Paul Watson, Steve Watson, great researchers, great writers, the two brothers over in the UK, working on this full-time.

00:35:31.000 Because this is important, and we're never going to hear the end of it.

00:35:33.000 And they're going to have more trials of people tortured 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years over the next, you know, 4 or 5 years, and it'll just always be, you know, I stabbed Santa in the back!

00:35:44.000 I killed Moses! 0.97

00:35:46.000 I, I mean, you know, it's, it's that ridiculous. 0.97

00:35:51.000 Some of the, well, let me just make this point too.

00:35:54.000 Another key is not just that it came from torture, or that it's impossible, or that cases they claim that he did, we know the government did, But the government has a motive to lie about this, because it fits into their whole orthodoxy, and they've been caught premeditatedly lying to us.

00:36:12.000 The White House memos out.

00:36:14.000 It's public.

00:36:15.000 The White House admits it's accurate and wants to arrest whoever released it.

00:36:18.000 Where he's meeting with Blair, right before the Iraq War, saying we can have a defector come out and claim he saw WMDs, and we can fly planes low and try to get Saddam to shoot them down, paint them up like UN aircraft.

00:36:31.000 And how they could stage events.

00:36:33.000 And they did stage events.

00:36:35.000 And they did have defectors come out.

00:36:37.000 And that's now been admitted.

00:36:39.000 Lying to you. 0.91

00:36:40.000 I mean, even if you're for the war, and even if you think killing Iraqis is going to make you happy, healthy, and wise, and live forever, fine. 0.77

00:36:48.000 But do you like being lied to? 1.00

00:36:49.000 Do you like being treated like an idiot? 1.00

00:36:52.000 I mean, do you enjoy neocons on talk radio? 1.00

00:36:55.000 Every time I tune in, literally every week, I hear them when they get into WMDs.

00:36:59.000 Every time they talk about WMDs were found, they always say the same stories.

00:37:04.000 We found Mobil and Thrax trucks.

00:37:06.000 Those were British-made trucks.

00:37:08.000 Saddam bought eight of them.

00:37:10.000 They found two of them at one spot.

00:37:12.000 They had serial numbers.

00:37:13.000 The British troops that found them knew exactly what they were, because the British own a whole bunch of them.

00:37:18.000 They're for pumping up Hydrogen surveillance blimps, balloons, that you crank up to spy with wireless cameras on your enemies!

00:37:30.000 They're for artillery direction, and they bought them during the Iran-Iraq War!

00:37:36.000 The Seven Year War! 0.73

00:37:38.000 Period!

00:37:39.000 Period!

00:37:40.000 Admitted! 1.00

00:37:41.000 So shut up! 1.00

00:37:44.000 I mean, I get so tired of it! 1.00

00:37:45.000 They treat you like you're idiots! 1.00

00:37:49.000 I can't believe these neocons will not stop lying! 1.00

00:37:52.000 They don't even stop using stuff that is totally admitted to be false!

00:37:57.000 I mean, I hear Hannity say it, I hear Liddy say it, I hear Limbaugh say it, I hear all of them going off their talking points, and I just, it makes my blood boil.

00:37:57.000 They continue it.

00:38:09.000 Some of the other news that's coming up, after we've completed talking about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, on a complete In total, waste of time.

00:38:22.000 This is out of Financial Times of London.

00:38:24.000 Web censorship spreading globally.

00:38:28.000 And they looked at 40 countries that have been reported to be doing it, and found that 20 plus are engaged in Chinese-style firewall blocking of just millions of keywords.

00:38:43.000 Because that's the only way to really censor the web, is just block most of it.

00:38:47.000 I'm trying to give you a synopsis.

00:38:49.000 You can go read this if you want.

00:38:51.000 But it says that since Google and China and others have worked together, that the system Google developed and Yahoo developed to censor, that's just being quietly duplicated all over the world now.

00:39:02.000 And believe me, it's going on here domestically.

00:39:05.000 They just don't like to announce that we've already got a censored web to a great extent.

00:39:11.000 You know, I could spend hours on this.

00:39:13.000 I can't.

00:39:13.000 I don't have time.

00:39:15.000 But Luxury Pie, New York City restaurant, offers $1,000 pizza.

00:39:21.000 Now that is obscene.

00:39:24.000 That is so obscene.

00:39:26.000 Nino Celadon unveils grand pizza featuring caviar and lobster. 0.99

00:39:32.000 I bet it tastes like crap. 0.95

00:39:34.000 Featured slideshow, and it goes to the celebrity, real names revealed, and How they all go and gobble the $1,000 pizza made of caviar. 0.99

00:39:45.000 Yep, that'll be $1,000. 0.97

00:39:46.000 This is for the nouveau riche trash. 0.96

00:39:50.000 Now let me be clear about this when I attack things like this. 0.97

00:39:53.000 I don't go with the communist or socialist view that any consumption is wicked and evil and bad and that having nice things is bad because that really comes from people who are greedy who just want wealth for themselves and can't stand it.

00:40:06.000 I believe wealth is good.

00:40:07.000 I believe it generates more wealth.

00:40:09.000 I believe that if it's a good free market system that it hires other individuals and gives people choice.

00:40:14.000 But this is not free market.

00:40:16.000 When you've got these fat lobbyists, and these media moguls, and these currency speculators, and their daughters having $65 million birthday parties while they sell defective body armor to the troops.

00:40:30.000 I mean, I know who these people are.

00:40:32.000 And they've got so much money that it's a religious thing to them to burn it, to blow it.

00:40:38.000 If you've got wealth, number one, you shouldn't worship it.

00:40:41.000 Number two, you should respect it and try to do good things with it.

00:40:45.000 Number three, again, wealth itself is not bad, but do not get into the idol worship. 0.93

00:40:49.000 You know, when I was growing up in Sunday school, I thought, you know, that's dumb. 0.90

00:40:54.000 Idol worship. 0.94

00:40:55.000 Why shouldn't you have something gold in a calf? 1.00

00:40:57.000 I mean, who cares?

00:40:58.000 It's a decoration. 0.99

00:40:59.000 Well, I was young and dumb. 0.95

00:41:00.000 I didn't understand that what it was saying was that you worshipped it. 0.97

00:41:04.000 You got off on it.

00:41:05.000 It was a symbol of wealth.

00:41:07.000 It was a symbol of worshipping success for success's sake.

00:41:13.000 It's great to build a nice skyscraper, it's wonderful to build a new design of ships, or a new engine, or a new transmitter, or a beautiful painting, and it's great to sell it for a million bucks.

00:41:23.000 A billion bucks.

00:41:24.000 That's fine.

00:41:24.000 Have big houses, have whatever.

00:41:27.000 But when you worship it, when you revel in it, when you idolize it, when that's all you are... I mean, I know a lot of wealthy people, and I mean people that are working, you know, 50 million, 100 million, 300 million, billion bucks.

00:41:27.000 Okay?

00:41:40.000 I know a few billionaires.

00:41:43.000 And real billionaires usually live in a medium-sized, high-security house.

00:41:47.000 They've got a couple of vacation retreats.

00:41:48.000 They're very quiet.

00:41:51.000 Most of them are wearing just decent, middle-of-the-road suits when they've got to wear suits or polo shirts.

00:41:59.000 They're driving maybe a $40,000 car.

00:42:01.000 They want something reliable.

00:42:03.000 They don't want you to know they have money.

00:42:06.000 But then there's the Nuevo Riche billionaires, and none of them are worse than the New York type, the L.A.

00:42:11.000 type, and the Nuevo Riche Mexicans.

00:42:14.000 My lord.

00:42:15.000 I mean, it is just like J.P.

00:42:20.000 Morgan, where he'd have six white horses pulling his golden carriage.

00:42:26.000 This conspicuous consumption.

00:42:28.000 It is just... Alright, I said I'd go to your calls.

00:42:30.000 I'm already running out of time here.

00:42:32.000 See, I said I could talk for three hours about this.

00:42:34.000 I can.

00:42:36.000 You know, if you're going to have a lot of wealth, I don't know how you couldn't spend a large portion on it trying to help people.

00:42:44.000 And I don't mean just giving it to some foundation that tells you they're helping people and really uses it to hurt people.

00:42:49.000 That's where most charity goes. 0.89

00:42:52.000 I mean, I'll tell you right now.

00:42:54.000 If I was worth a billion bucks, I would spend most of it on fighting the New World Order, and getting the word out, and fighting CPS, grabbing children, and fighting fluoride in the water, and fighting mercury in the vaccines.

00:43:05.000 Things I know that are really hurting people.

00:43:07.000 And I would try to have educational programs about how they're putting HIV in the vaccines, clearly in Africa, because that's how you're going to help those people. 0.79

00:43:17.000 And of course, I'd burn the money pretty quick.

00:43:20.000 But I'd also try to put some of it into a foundation for media.

00:43:25.000 I mean, there's no way...

00:43:27.000 There's no way.

00:43:28.000 I mean, number one, folks, I'm not into things because I don't like having to spend the time it takes to go buy things.

00:43:34.000 I could live in a nicer house, probably.

00:43:36.000 I could drive a nicer car.

00:43:38.000 But I hate buying cars.

00:43:40.000 I hate going and looking at cars.

00:43:42.000 But I see other people petting it and kissing on it.

00:43:45.000 Oh, my car!

00:43:47.000 And just constantly cleaning them and getting off on it.

00:43:50.000 And I know most of you do it.

00:43:51.000 I'm not saying you're bad.

00:43:52.000 It's just Wouldn't you rather spend time with your children?

00:43:55.000 Wouldn't you rather read a great book of literature?

00:43:57.000 Wouldn't you rather climb up a hilltop and see a sunset or a sunrise or go camping and see lizards on rocks eating bugs?

00:44:04.000 I mean, wouldn't you rather look into tidal pools in upstate California and then see the starfish and little schools of fish teeming with life and surging and going out and looking at the whales?

00:44:17.000 I mean, if I had time, that's the kind of stuff I'd be doing, would be walking around in Redwood Forest.

00:44:22.000 But no!

00:44:25.000 No, we've got to have big houses, and have fancy furniture, and the right artwork hanging up, and have parties over, and then congratulate each other, and pat each other on the back, and all feel powerful!

00:44:39.000 It's just disgusting!

00:44:41.000 I mean, how can we sleep when our world is turning?

00:44:44.000 How can we sleep when our beds are burning, or however the song goes?

00:44:47.000 But I mean, a thousand dollar pizza, That is just... That is just... I mean, frankly, if I was still a drinking man, I could see a $100 bottle of wine, because let me tell you, a $100 bottle of wine tastes a lot better than a $10 bottle.

00:45:04.000 But I'm a teetotaler.

00:45:07.000 Total teetotaler now, by the way.

00:45:09.000 I might go two years without drinking, and then all of a sudden, I'll have a few beers, and all of a sudden, oh, it's a six-pack.

00:45:14.000 Uh-uh, that's what's making me fat.

00:45:15.000 I'm already digressing.

00:45:17.000 That's right, I shall never drink again.

00:45:19.000 Ever!

00:45:20.000 And tobacco products shall never touch my lips!

00:45:24.000 Alright, I really am digressing.

00:45:26.000 It's very obnoxious and I'm sorry.

00:45:28.000 Let's go ahead and go to the calls here.

00:45:29.000 There's a hundred other articles plus in the stack.

00:45:32.000 I just covered three of them.

00:45:33.000 There's no way.

00:45:34.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Illinois, who disagrees.

00:45:38.000 Go ahead, John.

00:45:39.000 Hello, Alex.

00:45:41.000 Great work that you and Kevin and the rest of the gang are doing.

00:45:43.000 I got a disagreement with P. Coyle and a couple other I'd like to go over with you very quickly, so just bear with me.

00:45:43.000 Keep it up.

00:45:50.000 Okay, you've heard of Matt Simmons?

00:45:53.000 He's a Texan, I think, in the investment banking industry around Houston.

00:46:00.000 No, I don't know who they are, but I've heard the name.

00:46:03.000 But I do know that Giuliani Consulting is involved with Sitco and its refineries down in Corpus Christi and the surrounding areas.

00:46:12.000 Okay, Matt Simmons wrote the book, Twilight in the Desert, and he's been a guest on Jim Poplava's Financial Sense Online a couple of times.

00:46:19.000 And basically what they're saying is that we really are getting short on proven reserves.

00:46:27.000 And we're also short on refinery capacity, so even though the oil mafia might be treasonous, the fact of the matter is we probably really are running out of proven reserves.

00:46:38.000 Oh, we probably really are.

00:46:39.000 We probably really are.

00:46:41.000 Look, I'm not trying to be mean to you, sir, because you sound like you have a legitimate point with me, and you really believe what you're saying.

00:46:47.000 I actually went and looked.

00:46:49.000 At Discovered Proved Reserves from the Arctic Bering Strait down to Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Mexico, the United States, North America itself, the Gulf of Mexico, Prudhoe Bay.

00:47:05.000 Sir, if you cut in half the Discovered Reserves, we have enough oil for several hundred years with a Increase in usage factored in.

00:47:20.000 Now, let me expand on that.

00:47:22.000 Then there's all the undiscovered or unproven reserves.

00:47:26.000 It's astronomical.

00:47:27.000 We are literally floating on oceans of oil.

00:47:31.000 And I have the actual numbers.

00:47:32.000 We have the actual facts.

00:47:34.000 I have family in the oil business.

00:47:35.000 I have family who are petroleum geologists.

00:47:37.000 I know a lot of petroleum geologists.

00:47:39.000 I live in Texas.

00:47:41.000 I've had family from people that are refinery heads, engineers, down to roughnecks.

00:47:46.000 I know all about it, and let me just tell you, for people in the industry, peak oil is a giant joke, and Greg Palast of the BBC and ABC News was able to get the documents, now 11 years old, from Dutch Rochelle when they cooked up the peak oil fraud.

00:48:02.000 Okay, I want to plug your web hosting service for your listeners.

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00:48:28.000 Oh yeah, I've seen that site.

00:48:30.000 It's a good site.

00:48:31.000 Good to hear from you, my friend.

00:48:33.000 Listen, I want to make something clear here, okay?

00:48:37.000 I want to make something clear.

00:48:40.000 I think fossil fuels are dirty, and they do cause a lot of degradation to the environment, and there's a lot of bad things happening to the environment, and I don't think that we should just run around haphazardly killing off species and doing these types of things.

00:48:58.000 But, and there's an article out today about great analysis, which is just the facts.

00:49:02.000 I mean, I love these articles.

00:49:03.000 Nobody's ever heard of this show, never heard my opinions, never heard their opinions.

00:49:06.000 It's like I wrote the article.

00:49:08.000 Pollution, not global warming, is the problem.

00:49:12.000 And believe me, I don't like drinking dioxins and heavy metals.

00:49:14.000 I don't like what's in the air.

00:49:16.000 I don't like these coal-burning plants with dirty coal that admittedly put mercury out.

00:49:20.000 I don't want my babies breathing that.

00:49:22.000 There's no doubt there's problems.

00:49:25.000 But I have a responsibility to research things.

00:49:27.000 And I remember hearing about global warming 15 years ago.

00:49:30.000 I told folks, I didn't know whether it was real or not.

00:49:33.000 I looked into it.

00:49:37.000 And sure enough, there is climate change, but it is not man-made.

00:49:43.000 And sure enough, the government, the global system, is taking your instinctive concerns about your environment, about your happy hunting ground, your instinctive concerns about your surroundings, and they're scaring you.

00:49:58.000 And they're giving you solutions that do nothing to help the environment.

00:50:03.000 I believe environmentalism should be local, And I believe that people that do bad things that clearly hurt others, it needs to be demonstrated to a grand jury, and then it's criminal.

00:50:12.000 There's always, frankly, what the EPA and others allowed is, you know, if you dump something toxic and poison people, you went to jail 50 years ago.

00:50:21.000 Now you just pay a fine.

00:50:23.000 Don't you understand big regulators actually are controlled by big corporations?

00:50:28.000 You try to tell some environmentalists this, and it's your religion to them.

00:50:32.000 I don't want to breathe bad air.

00:50:34.000 I don't want to drink poison.

00:50:36.000 But a global tax to a bunch of mass-murdering criminals?

00:50:41.000 That's just unbelievable.

00:50:42.000 And you want to worry about something?

00:50:44.000 Why don't you worry about genetic engineering and chimera cross-species jumping into other species? 0.91

00:50:51.000 You don't know what that is?

00:50:52.000 You better look into it.

00:50:53.000 Okay, environmentalist?

00:50:54.000 You want to really worry about something?

00:50:56.000 There it is.

00:50:57.000 We'll be right back.

00:50:58.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 Alright, I want to get through who's been holding the longest, Norman Vincent... Richard... Ranera, is it?

00:59:23.000 And a few others.

00:59:24.000 And I'm going to air it this hour, because I've never been able to find this tape.

00:59:27.000 It was mailed to us and we lost it, but we found it online.

00:59:30.000 The Ron Paul neocon speech.

00:59:32.000 It's pretty good audio.

00:59:33.000 We air the first five minutes where he's talking about conservatism has been betrayed, the Republicans are big government, and then he goes into who the neocons are.

00:59:41.000 Find a good spot about five minutes in, because we played the five minutes yesterday.

00:59:44.000 Find a good spot, a good break point where it makes sense, John, if you can.

00:59:47.000 We're going to start playing that as soon as we can.

00:59:49.000 But right now, let's go to Norman in North Carolina.

00:59:51.000 Thanks for holding.

00:59:52.000 Hey Alex, how are you doing?

00:59:54.000 Good.

00:59:54.000 Hey, uh, what is it with these folks?

00:59:57.000 Don't they realize that the truth has already outflanked them?

01:00:00.000 I mean, every time they augment their official story, they actually insult the intelligence of the common sense American citizen.

01:00:07.000 We know what's going on.

01:00:09.000 You're talking about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and he took credit for killing Lincoln, he took credit for, you know, being involved in the assault on Mordor. 0.84

01:00:19.000 Yes sir, evidently this guy is, uh, Pretty efficient.

01:00:23.000 He's been able to take credit for for lots of things and I don't know.

01:00:28.000 I mean, it's just unreal to me that That we've been duped.

01:00:32.000 The power elite have conducted an assault on the working class and we're supposed to continue to take it and believe their lies.

01:00:40.000 When in reality we all know that the United States American citizen is the highest authority in this land, not the commander-in-chief.

01:00:48.000 He's just the boss of the military.

01:00:49.000 He serves at the pleasure of the people and we have been done a grave disservice and I just can't believe that people are outraged and And jumping on their hats about this stuff, because it's so self-evident, it just rolls me over every time they augment the official story, and we're supposed to just, you know, it evolves, it changes, but it never has any consistency, it never adds up.

01:01:14.000 Well, I mean, this is, another point we need to make in the articles we're putting together on this fraud, is that they claimed that they killed a bunch of other Al Qaeda leaders, in some cases over 12 times, I mean, you know, they killed No.

01:01:26.000 2 five times, they killed No.

01:01:29.000 4 ten times, they killed Chemical Ali three times, they killed his sons four times, they killed just over and over. 0.69

01:01:37.000 But remember, these are the same folks that premeditatedly lied about aluminum tubes, Anthrax mobile factories, Niger Yellow Cake, wrote fake documents, wanted to have fake defectors come out.

01:01:50.000 This is the same crowd that's been caught buying billions in fake news.

01:01:54.000 That needs to be added.

01:01:55.000 I mean, there's so many points.

01:01:57.000 I mean, just the billions of fake news that the Pentagon's bought and it's been found to be illegal, buying off reporters covertly.

01:02:04.000 How could anyone believe anything they say?

01:02:06.000 And then they've obtained it through torture!

01:02:09.000 Yes, sir.

01:02:11.000 Well, we have no doubt that their getting away with murder by numbers, but we have to go all the way back to 9-11 and hold them accountable For this, because this is the one thing that they're holding up as their justification for their every illegal action.

01:02:24.000 And it's just not fair.

01:02:26.000 I mean, I was, I grew up and placed allegiance to a flag of a country where I thought that it was a level playing field.

01:02:32.000 And my great grandmother taught me that truth is paramount.

01:02:35.000 And now as I get older, you know, I'm realizing that there, I've lived under a lot of illusions.

01:02:41.000 And it's just very disheartening because I know that we are a good people and we're so much better than this, but it's hard to discern that these days because people are so apathetic and pusillanimous in their ability to deal with the crisis in the capitalist order right now.

01:02:59.000 I mean, we've got a good system, but It's just been, like you say, taken over by the power elite.

01:03:05.000 It's been taken over by fraudsters, by scammers.

01:03:08.000 I appreciate your call.

01:03:09.000 By Ponzi operators, who've got the fanciest propaganda and PR you could ever imagine.

01:03:14.000 Alright, now we get back from break.

01:03:16.000 I gotta go quick to Vincent, Richard, and Rinera, and others, because I want to get to this Ron Paul speech.

01:03:21.000 I want to air most of it.

01:03:22.000 It's actually... I had remembered it being like 45 minutes long.

01:03:28.000 And it's actually 50 minutes long, so...

01:03:31.000 We're gonna air most of it, and uh, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is joining us for 30 minutes the next hour.

01:03:37.000 Whatever we haven't aired, we'll air in the last 30 minutes.

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01:06:58.000 All right, welcome back. welcome back.

01:07:21.000 Let's jam in some more of your great phone calls and I'm going to play There's no way to just start at five minutes in.

01:07:27.000 We played five minutes of it yesterday.

01:07:28.000 I'm going to play a large portion of this 50-minute speech of Ron Paul titled, Neocon.

01:07:32.000 He got threatened by the neocons.

01:07:34.000 He got threatening letters.

01:07:35.000 But it's all right out of their own books, their own publications.

01:07:38.000 It starts kind of slow, but gets into some really important meat.

01:07:42.000 So we're going to air a lot of it in this hour.

01:07:43.000 And then we got Dr. Paul Craig Roberts for 30 minutes the next.

01:07:47.000 And I'll air more towards the end of the show if we have the time.

01:07:50.000 But right now, let's go ahead and talk to... Who's up next here?

01:07:56.000 Vincent in Texas, go ahead.

01:07:57.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:07:59.000 I was at that Texas rally.

01:07:59.000 Good.

01:08:02.000 I don't know if you remember me.

01:08:03.000 I was the one that came up to you right after you finished your speech.

01:08:08.000 Well, anyway... Are you the guy that's in the military?

01:08:12.000 Yes.

01:08:12.000 Oh, and you gave me the Saddam note.

01:08:15.000 Yes, I did.

01:08:16.000 Yeah, you gave me the old Saddam money. 0.62

01:08:18.000 And you've got footage you were saying of Green Zone stuff, interesting things.

01:08:23.000 I'd love for you, once you get that back from your mom that you sent it to, to send me a copy.

01:08:28.000 Well, I have a problem right now.

01:08:29.000 The problem is, she sent it to me three weeks ago and it's locked in the mail right now.

01:08:35.000 Well, the White House admits they have the mail torn open.

01:08:38.000 It's freedom, sir, but go ahead.

01:08:40.000 What you fight for?

01:08:41.000 Well, the reason why I called is because I have a problem.

01:08:44.000 I just returned from Iraq in December and just two weeks ago I We received an enlistment briefing from my unit commander urging us to re-enlist.

01:08:58.000 Our country needs us more than ever.

01:08:59.000 He said that if we lose the war in Iraq, the gas prices are going to skyrocket.

01:09:04.000 We need to serve our country.

01:09:05.000 Their letter says it's to keep gas prices down.

01:09:10.000 No, this is what our unit commander said to us.

01:09:12.000 Okay.

01:09:14.000 Well, the thing is, the day after they gave us this re-enlistment briefing, Now they're telling us we're going to get stock lost, and we're going to go over there anyway, so we might as well re-enlist.

01:09:25.000 And they're throwing $20,000 in front of our faces just to get us to re-enlist.

01:09:31.000 Well, look, I mean, even if you just wanted the money, it's not worth it to take those inoculations.

01:09:36.000 I mean, I wouldn't join the military for all the tea in China because of the deadly vaccines, the experimental vaccines, the illegal vaccines, the guinea pigging that our troops go through. 0.99

01:09:47.000 Of course.

01:09:48.000 Of course.

01:09:49.000 And my contract ends in October and I just want to go home.

01:09:54.000 Well, are they giving you a $20,000 bonus straight up or are they claiming to dole it out?

01:10:00.000 Straight up.

01:10:01.000 Straight up, Alex.

01:10:03.000 Have you heard all the callers and the news articles about how they just handed out wads of cash to the troops of those billions that were flown in?

01:10:11.000 Yes.

01:10:13.000 Yeah, I've heard about that.

01:10:15.000 One of the missions I did in Iraq was to escort money, but I can't get into that right now.

01:10:21.000 I understand, but let me just ask you, what's your question to me?

01:10:25.000 I just wanted to comment on it, and I also have something else to comment on about your show Sunday, on your show, the Sunday edition.

01:10:34.000 Yes, what about it?

01:10:36.000 You commented on the city of Kareem, and you said that it is true, their entire economy is based off of this Off of Fort Hood, the entire time.

01:10:47.000 And you said that they supported the troops.

01:10:49.000 Well, the only reason why they supported the troops is because there's two reasons.

01:10:53.000 One reason is because when we go over there to Iraq, of course I'm not married, but when we go over there to Iraq, the men in this town, they go mess around with the wives over there, and then we come back, and the guys that have wives, they find out that their wives cheat on them, and it causes all kinds of problems.

01:11:08.000 And second, yeah, they supported us because when we go over there, we make all that money, we save it up, And we come back, and of course, you see all these signs everywhere, we support insurance, I can give you a deal at a low price on a car, anything.

01:11:25.000 Oh yeah, they support getting your money as long as you go over there and die for them.

01:11:29.000 Of course. 0.91

01:11:30.000 Amazing.

01:11:31.000 But, so are you planning to get out in October?

01:11:34.000 Yes.

01:11:35.000 You were saying you needed my advice on something?

01:11:38.000 Well, I just wanted to comment on that and just let everybody know about what they're doing.

01:11:43.000 Well, you're a really nice fella, and I gave that old Iraqi money you gave me to my son, so I really appreciate you giving that to me.

01:11:51.000 Thank you.

01:11:52.000 It was nice meeting you in person, my friend.

01:11:53.000 Take care.

01:11:55.000 Alright, let's go ahead and take another call here.

01:11:59.000 Rhianna, I believe, in Wisconsin.

01:12:01.000 Go ahead.

01:12:02.000 Hi, Alex.

01:12:05.000 Love all of your documentaries.

01:12:06.000 I've been watching them for a couple years now on one of my friend's websites, where I get them for free.

01:12:12.000 And, uh, I was watching the news last night on the local NBC affiliate up here in Madison, and, uh, they showed a very interesting video clip, uh, very much Rise of the Police State Posse Comitatus.

01:12:28.000 Now, the interesting thing that, uh, I was on their website looking at the, uh, the written article for this, And I just hung my head and laughed in shame, because they say, according to internet sources, Posse Comitatus is a Christian anti-government group that has anti-Semitic resources and

01:12:56.000 I just wanted to hear you comment about this.

01:13:00.000 Well, they know the general public.

01:13:02.000 Again, the general public doesn't know how many state capitals there are, doesn't know who the Vice President is, just kind of halfway hears words. 0.97

01:13:11.000 There's a country over there, they want to kill us, okay, let's get them. 0.98

01:13:15.000 And the Feds did this back in the 90s. 0.99

01:13:18.000 This is a leftover from Clinton.

01:13:20.000 They would go out because they wanted to demonize militias, and they knew the public was dumbed down.

01:13:26.000 And so they went and found a motorcycle gang that had no connection to militias, and it was called the Viper Motorcycle Gang. 0.97

01:13:35.000 And so for a year, it was a small gang of some drug dealers, just some white trash methamphetamine dealers. 1.00

01:13:44.000 And this all later came out in the press that it was totally fake. 0.93

01:13:46.000 I mean, it was buried in the newspaper, but they admitted it.

01:13:49.000 And over the next year, this FBI agent And some of his associates became the leaders of the gang, and they said, now understand, leading the group, not just in it and informing on it, we're now going to be a militia, we're going to buy weapons, and we're going to call ourselves the Viper Militia.

01:14:07.000 Now they never planned any violence, never did anything, they just counterfeited some money and dealt some drugs, but it was just so they could announce, Viper, Viper, Viper.

01:14:15.000 The word viper, you know, a deadly venomous snake, associated with the word militia.

01:14:22.000 And the same thing with posse commentatus.

01:14:24.000 There was some loosely knit, you know, Christian identity group in the last 15 years.

01:14:30.000 I never even saw any existence that existed.

01:14:32.000 They arrested a few people called posse commentatus.

01:14:35.000 And so they love to go on the national news, especially in the late 90s, and go posse commentatus.

01:14:40.000 If you hear someone say that word, it's code for Jews.

01:14:44.000 That way, when I get on there and I go, troops in our streets and violating our Bill of Rights and doing search and seizure is a violation of posse commentatus.

01:14:54.000 And then I can have JAG generals on, retired, you know, major lawyers, universities, and say they're violating and it's horrible.

01:15:01.000 Well, the general public hears me say that and they go, that's code!

01:15:04.000 No, it's an 1878 law, after Reconstruction, when the troops were running around raping and burning and killing and enjoying themselves for ten years.

01:15:14.000 And finally, people rebelled against it, banning troops engaging in law enforcement activities and occupying the U.S.

01:15:21.000 So it bans that, and yeah, I've got Governor Ridge on tape when he was Homeland Security Head getting up on TV and saying we need to reverse posse comitatus.

01:15:30.000 We need to get rid of it.

01:15:32.000 Well, they basically already have by militarizing the police themselves.

01:15:35.000 So that's basically it.

01:15:37.000 Yeah, I mean, they just, they raided everything.

01:15:40.000 I mean, this is a couple that was like 60 years old, and they just Bam.

01:15:46.000 You know, you said it multiple times in your videos and on your radio.

01:15:49.000 Well, you need to raid those people.

01:15:51.000 You know, we need to arrest anyone who doesn't. 1.00

01:15:53.000 Look, folks, I don't like the black groups that say they're God and the white people are the devil and we all need to die. 1.00

01:16:00.000 But, you know, that's their right. 0.99

01:16:03.000 And I don't like the groups that, you know, but most of the time it's not even white supremacists.

01:16:09.000 I mean, they raided Fritz Springmeier, who had a huge library, wasn't a white supremacist.

01:16:14.000 They set him up on bank robbery later.

01:16:16.000 They tried to set him up like five times for pot dealing and this and that.

01:16:19.000 You know, the guy, tea toddler, doesn't smoke.

01:16:22.000 They did all this stuff, and then they said they found a white supremacist book at his house.

01:16:26.000 Well, my gosh, my house has got a couple white supremacists.

01:16:29.000 My house has got Mein Kampf.

01:16:31.000 I remember back in college, I went and bought Mein Kampf at the bookstore to write a paper on it.

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01:16:45.000 And, uh, you know, I'll probably be raided now, because I've got a devil book, and I shouldn't read it. 1.00

01:16:51.000 Somewhere in storage, I got a couple books on black magic.

01:16:53.000 I wanted to really know what the devil worshippers are into. 0.88

01:16:56.000 I went and read it.

01:16:57.000 Does that mean I'm into black magic?

01:16:58.000 No.

01:16:59.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

01:17:00.000 Uh, man, we gotta go here.

01:17:01.000 I don't know how I'm gonna get to all this.

01:17:03.000 Um, I gotta reply to this Ron Paul.

01:17:06.000 Let's go ahead and talk to David in British Columbia.

01:17:08.000 Go ahead.

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01:17:10.000 Hi, I'm a first-time caller, Alex.

01:17:10.000 Yes, sir, go ahead.

01:17:13.000 Welcome, sir.

01:17:14.000 We've got about a minute and a half.

01:17:15.000 Go ahead.

01:17:17.000 And, uh, what I'm phoning about is, uh, on the radio last night, CBC Radio, on The Arts Tonight, they, uh, were interviewing a, um, a director that was down in Austin, Texas, that was premiering their film called, uh, Manufacturing Descent, and I just wanted to know if you knew anything about it.

01:17:35.000 Manufacturing Descent.

01:17:37.000 Yeah, it's a... I've heard of that, but no.

01:17:40.000 Okay, it's a new film, and the folks in Austin really enjoyed it, and it's about Michael Moore.

01:17:49.000 Oh, I saw the AP article about it.

01:17:51.000 Yeah, and the interesting thing about it... I do know about it.

01:17:54.000 Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

01:17:55.000 The filmmakers that made it were going in as the fans of Michael Moore.

01:18:02.000 But as they got halfway through the production and making of the film, they started uncovering some disturbing truths about him.

01:18:11.000 Well, and the AP did confirm, and I already knew this, that Roger and me, back in the 80s, PBS, you know, up in Flint, Michigan, where he's from, he did get the interview, he lied about it, and the whole film was about how he couldn't get the interview.

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01:23:02.000 Yeah, I did actually on Monday see an article out of the Associated Press and I found the story here.

01:23:15.000 Christy Lemire, AP movie writer, film questions Michael Moore's tactics and it is his fans It's on record that they, big liberals, his fans, and they made the film Manufacturing Dissent.

01:23:28.000 It clicked, but then it took a few seconds, David, in British Columbia to remember what you were talking about.

01:23:35.000 That's why, folks, when you call up and ask me if I know about something, give me a second.

01:23:38.000 It'll seem like I interrupt.

01:23:39.000 I go, no, I don't, and then you'll start talking, and I go, oh, yeah.

01:23:42.000 A documentary filmmaker, I'm like a computer, I guess, an old junkie, when it takes me a second, and it goes on to report that Number one, Michael Moore won't let you get anywhere near him.

01:23:55.000 You know, he acts like, oh, these big corporate chiefs and these New World Order people, they're so inaccessible and they won't talk to you and they hide out. 0.99

01:24:02.000 Well, I've tried to get a nice interview with Michael Moore for years and he won't do it.

01:24:06.000 And then I've never had anybody's bodyguards other than George Bush's manhandle me other than Michael Moore's.

01:24:14.000 They were shoving on me.

01:24:14.000 They were dishonest.

01:24:17.000 It's in my film, Martial Law.

01:24:19.000 And that's why I went ahead and got obnoxious.

01:24:21.000 I wasn't going to be mean.

01:24:23.000 I wasn't going to put him in my film until he did this.

01:24:27.000 And we heard where he was at.

01:24:29.000 And we were with some TV producers that were friends with him.

01:24:33.000 But when he found out it was me, he just went and hid in a restaurant.

01:24:38.000 And we sat out there for an hour.

01:24:40.000 And the guy's a complete fake. 0.98

01:24:42.000 His bowling for Columbine is a fraud, is a lie, is disinformation.

01:24:48.000 Uh, his, uh, Fahrenheit 9-11 has got some important points, and I think this is the only really good and fair and honest film he's made.

01:24:56.000 Uh, that's really all I can say about him, but he lied in Roger and Me, and it's now admitted that he did get the interview with General Motors Chairman Roger Smith, uh, the evasive subject of Roger and Me, but chose to withhold the footage from the final cut. 0.95

01:25:14.000 He is a dishonest piece of trash. 0.96

01:25:18.000 I just can't believe that, but it's just amazing. 1.00

01:25:21.000 Okay, go ahead and finish up what you were going to say, David.

01:25:23.000 I was just going to say that it was well-received.

01:25:27.000 Both Moore's critics and film critics were going wild over the film.

01:25:31.000 That's what I'm reading or heard on the radio last night.

01:25:35.000 And yeah, the two self-described lefty filmmakers from Canada that made the documentary do question many of Moore's tactics throughout the film, apparently.

01:25:48.000 Well, they're very dishonest tactics, but I'll tell you why he's getting hammered right now, why this is getting attention.

01:25:54.000 I mean, A, these guys have made this film, but B, the fact that he owned Halliburton Stock has come out, the fact that he's lied about other things, bowling for Columbine is a complete fraud.

01:26:05.000 But also, he's going after Big Pharma now, and so I think they're going to allow a lot of his dirt to come out now.

01:26:11.000 Right.

01:26:12.000 Right, because that's his newest film he's making, or I'll tell you right now, I know people that know Michael Moore, and he does know 9-11 is an inside job, but he won't go public about it.

01:26:23.000 So that makes him even more despicable.

01:26:26.000 Well, that's the thing with the Fahrenheit 9-1-1.

01:26:29.000 It's sort of like disinformation in some sense.

01:26:32.000 Like you say, it brings out some excellent points, but it only takes us three quarters of the way there.

01:26:37.000 Well, we should do a report on this.

01:26:40.000 I did confirm that Rosie O'Donnell on her own blog wrote that she knows 9-11 is a cover-up, that Bush acted like he knew at the schoolhouse, that there should be a bigger investigation, and that she thinks that it could be an inside job.

01:26:53.000 She basically said that, and as much as I don't like her on her anti-gun stance, even if somebody's wrong about a bunch of stuff, if they've got the courage to come out on 9-11, See, that shows you that Rosie O'Donnell means what she's saying.

01:27:06.000 She's not like an operative.

01:27:08.000 She's just a hardcore leftist who at least believes the bull she puts out. 1.00

01:27:12.000 So because she hates Bush so much, she would at least look at the evidence of 9-11.

01:27:16.000 Well, see, I'm different.

01:27:18.000 I just go to the facts.

01:27:19.000 And Bill Clinton carried out Oklahoma City.

01:27:22.000 The people that control Bush carried out 9-11.

01:27:25.000 It's not partisan.

01:27:26.000 We're just covering the facts here, ladies and gentlemen.

01:27:29.000 I appreciate your call.

01:27:32.000 You know, it's funny, I was calling Alberto Gonzalez a criminal on Sunday's radio show, and I got an email from somebody going, how dare you say that?

01:27:39.000 Writing memos as White House Chief Counsel saying the President's above the law and can order people tortured to death is criminal.

01:27:48.000 And look what came out.

01:27:50.000 It's not just that he fired eight U.S.

01:27:51.000 Attorneys.

01:27:52.000 See, the neocons are all focusing, well, Hillary and Bill fired them all.

01:27:55.000 Yeah, it was wrong.

01:27:56.000 But, oh, he fired eight.

01:27:59.000 It's the fact that they fired him because they wouldn't have politically motivated witch hunts against Democratic candidates.

01:28:07.000 I mean, folks, if you're a real candidate and you try to follow the election laws, you can't follow them perfectly.

01:28:13.000 They're written.

01:28:14.000 Everything's written for selective enforcement.

01:28:16.000 Where normal people can't follow the law, and if you're a crook, you don't have to.

01:28:19.000 If you're with the in crowd.

01:28:23.000 I discovered one more news topic I wanted to get to.

01:28:25.000 Alright, we're going to come back We're gonna go right into Ron Paul.

01:28:25.000 I squeezed that in.

01:28:30.000 This speech was given over three years ago on the neocons.

01:28:35.000 Right around the start of the war, I believe.

01:28:37.000 Not only have the text before, now we have the audio.

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01:33:38.000 Alright, here's Ron Paul.

01:33:40.000 I'm even going to play some of them at the next hour and just have Dr. Roberts hold.

01:33:43.000 We're going to get it in.

01:33:43.000 We'll continue.

01:33:45.000 This is Ron Paul.

01:33:46.000 He starts slow and he gets into who really runs the neocons.

01:33:49.000 This totally freaked out the White House.

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01:33:53.000 And this is the audio of the videotape that Kelly Rushing in Kentucky gave to the state police.

01:33:58.000 And this was on C-SPAN.

01:34:00.000 And they came and arrested him and tried him for giving police what you're about to hear.

01:34:05.000 Okay, in America, this is considered criminal.

01:34:08.000 Here is Congressman Ron Paul, running for president right now, most conservative voting record.

01:34:13.000 This is considered criminal, what you're about to hear.

01:34:15.000 Gentleman from Texas, Dr. Paul is recognized for 60 minutes as a Deputy Majority Leader.

01:34:22.000 Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks.

01:34:26.000 Without objection.

01:34:27.000 Mr. Speaker, the modern-day limited government movement has been co-opted.

01:34:34.000 The conservatives have failed in their efforts to shrink the size of government.

01:34:39.000 There has not been, nor will there soon be, a conservative revolution in Washington.

01:34:45.000 Party control of the federal government has changed, but the inexorable growth in the size and scope of government has continued unabated.

01:34:53.000 The liberal arguments for limited government in personal affairs and foreign military adventurism were never seriously considered as part of this revolution.

01:35:03.000 Since the change of the political party in charge has not made a difference, who's really in charge?

01:35:10.000 If the particular party in power makes little difference, whose policy is it that permits expanded government programs, increase ending, huge deficits, nation building, and the pervasive invasion of our privacy with fewer Fourth Amendment protections than ever before?

01:35:29.000 Someone is responsible, and it's important for those of us who love liberty and resent big brother government identify the philosophic supporters who have the most to say about the direction our country is going.

01:35:42.000 If they're wrong, and I believe they are, we need to show it, alert the American people, and offer a more positive approach to government.

01:35:51.000 However, this depends on whether the American people desire to live in a free society and reject the dangerous notion that we need a strong central government to take care of us from cradle to grave.

01:36:05.000 Do the American people really believe it's the government's responsibility to make us morally better and economically equal?

01:36:13.000 Do we have a responsibility to police the world while imposing our vision of good government on everyone else in the world with some form of utopian nation-building?

01:36:23.000 If not, and the contemporary enemies of liberty are exposed and rejected, then it behooves us to present an alternative philosophy that is morally superior and economically sound and provides a guide to world affairs to enhance peace and commerce.

01:36:44.000 One thing is certain.

01:36:45.000 Conservatives who worked and voted for less government in the Reagan years, over of the U.S.

01:36:50.000 Congress and the presidency in the 1990s and early 2000s, were deceived.

01:36:56.000 Soon they will realize that the goal of limited government has been dashed, and that their views no longer matter.

01:37:04.000 The so-called conservative revolution of the past two decades has given us massive growth in government size, spending, and regulations.

01:37:14.000 Deficits are exploding and the national debt is now rising at a greater than a half trillion dollars per year.

01:37:21.000 Taxes do not go down, even if we vote to lower them.

01:37:26.000 They can't, as long as spending is increased, since all spending must be paid for one way or another.

01:37:33.000 Both Presidents Reagan and the elder George Bush raised taxes directly.

01:37:38.000 With this administration so far, direct taxes have been reduced, and they certainly should have been.

01:37:44.000 But it means little if spending increases and deficits rise.

01:37:49.000 When taxes are not raised to accommodate higher spending, the bills must be paid for by either borrowing or printing new money.

01:37:58.000 This is one reason why we conveniently have a generous Federal Reserve Chairman who is willing to accommodate the Congress.

01:38:05.000 With borrowing and inflating, the tax is delayed and distributed in a way that makes it difficult for those paying the tax to identify it.

01:38:16.000 Like future generations, those on fixed incomes who suffer from rising prices, and those who lose jobs, they certainly feel the consequence of economic dislocation that this process causes.

01:38:31.000 Government spending is always a tax burden on the American people and is never equally or fairly distributed.

01:38:39.000 The poor and low middle income workers always suffer the most from the deceitful tax of inflation and borrowing.

01:38:48.000 Many present-day conservatives who generally argue for less government and supported the Reagan, Gingrich, Bush takeover of the federal government are now justifiably disillusioned.

01:39:00.000 Although not a monolithic group, they wanted to shrink the size of government.

01:39:07.000 Early in our history, the advocates of limited constitutional government recognized two important principles.

01:39:15.000 The rule of law was crucial, and a constitutional government must derive just powers from the consent of the governed.

01:39:24.000 It was understood that an explicit transfer of power to government could only occur with power rightfully and naturally endowed to each individual as a God-given right.

01:39:37.000 Therefore, the powers that could be transferred would be limited to the purpose of protecting liberty.

01:39:44.000 Unfortunately, in the last 100 years, the defense of liberty has been fragmented and shared by various groups, with some protecting civil liberties, others economic freedom, and a small diverse group arguing for a foreign policy of non-intervention.

01:40:02.000 The philosophy of freedom has had a tough go of it and it was hoped that the renewed interest in limited government of the past two decades would revive an interest in reconstituting the freedom philosophy into something more consistent.

01:40:20.000 Those who work for the goal of limited government power believe the rhetoric of politicians who promised smaller government.

01:40:28.000 Sometimes it was just plain sloppy thinking on their part But at other times they fell victim to a deliberate distortion of a concise limited government philosophy by politicians who misled many into believing that we would see a rollback on government intrusiveness.

01:40:47.000 Yes, there was always a remnant who longed for truly limited government and maintained a belief in the rule of law Combined with a deep conviction that free people and a government bound by a constitution were the most advantageous form of government.

01:41:06.000 They recognized it as the only practical way for prosperity to be spread to the maximum number of people while promoting peace and security.

01:41:17.000 That remnant, imperfect as it may have been, was heard from in the elections of 1980, 1984, and then achieved major victories in 2000 and 2002, when professed limited government proponents took over the administration, the Senate, and the House.

01:41:35.000 However, the true believers in limited government are now shunned and laughed at.

01:41:40.000 At the very least, they are ignored.

01:41:43.000 Except, when they are used for the right, the new conservatives now in charge of the U.S.

01:41:49.000 government.

01:41:50.000 The remnants instincts were correct, and the politicians placated them with talk of free markets, limited government, and a humble, non-nation-building foreign policy.

01:42:03.000 However, little concern for civil liberties was expressed in this recent quest for less government.

01:42:09.000 Yet, for an ultimate victory of achieving freedom, this must change.

01:42:14.000 Interest in personal privacy and choices has generally remained outside the concern of many conservatives, especially with the great harm done by their long-time support of the drug war.

01:42:27.000 Even though some confusion has emerged over our foreign policy since the breakdown of the Soviet Union, it's been a net benefit in getting some conservatives back on track with a less militaristic interventionist foreign policy.

01:42:43.000 Unfortunately, though, after 9-11, the cause of liberty suffered a setback.

01:42:48.000 As a result, Millions of Americans voted for the less than perfect conservative revolution because they believed in the promises of the politicians.

01:42:58.000 Now, there's mounting evidence to indicate exactly what happened to the revolution.

01:43:05.000 Government is bigger than ever and future commitments are overwhelming.

01:43:09.000 Millions will soon become disenchanted with the new status quo delivered to the American people by the advocates of limited government and will find it to be just more of the old status quo.

01:43:22.000 Victories for limited government have turned out to be hollow indeed.

01:43:28.000 International debt is increasing at a rate greater than a half trillion dollars per year.

01:43:34.000 The debt limit was recently increased by an astounding 984 billion dollars.

01:43:41.000 Total U.S.

01:43:42.000 government obligations are 43 billion dollars, while total net worth of all U.S.

01:43:49.000 households is just over 44 trillion dollars.

01:43:55.000 The country is broke.

01:43:57.000 But no one in Washington seems to notice or care.

01:44:01.000 The philosophic and political commitment for both guns and butter, and especially the expanding American empire, must be challenged.

01:44:10.000 This is crucial for our survival.

01:44:13.000 In spite of the floundering economy, The Congress and the administration continues to take on new commitments in foreign aid, education, farming, medicine, multiple efforts at nation building, and preemptive wars around the world.

01:44:31.000 Already we're entrenched in Iraq and Afghanistan with plans to soon add new trophies to our conquest.

01:44:38.000 War talk about when Syria, Iran, and North Korea may be attacked.

01:44:44.000 How did this all transpire?

01:44:47.000 Why did the government do it?

01:44:49.000 Why haven't the people objected?

01:44:51.000 How long will it go on before something is done?

01:44:55.000 Does anyone care?

01:44:56.000 Would the euphoria of grand military victories against non-enemies ever be mellowed?

01:45:04.000 Someday, we as a legislative body must face the reality, the dire situation in which we have allowed ourselves to become enmeshed.

01:45:13.000 Hopefully it will be soon.

01:45:16.000 We got here because ideas do have consequences.

01:45:20.000 Bad ideas have bad consequences.

01:45:23.000 And even the best of intentions have unintended consequences.

01:45:29.000 We need to know exactly what the philosophic ideas were that drove us to this point.

01:45:34.000 Then, hopefully, reject them and decide on another set of intellectual parameters.

01:45:42.000 There is abundant evidence exposing those who drive our foreign policy, justifying preemptive war.

01:45:50.000 Those who scheme are proud of their achievements in usurp control over foreign policy.

01:45:56.000 These are the neoconservatives of recent fame.

01:46:00.000 Granted, they are talented and achieved a political victory that all policy makers must admire.

01:46:07.000 But can freedom and the republic survive this takeover?

01:46:12.000 That question should concern us.

01:46:16.000 Neoconservatives are obviously in positions of influence and are well placed throughout our government and the media.

01:46:23.000 An apathetic Congress put up little resistance and abdicated its responsibility over foreign affairs.

01:46:30.000 The electorate was easily influenced to join in the patriotic fervor supporting the military adventurism advocated by the neoconservatives.

01:46:39.000 Those who still hope for truly limited government diminished and had their concerns ignored these past 22 months during the aftermath of 9-11.

01:46:50.000 Members of Congress were easily influenced to publicly support any domestic policy or foreign military adventure that was supposed to help reduce the threat of a terrorist attack.

01:47:02.000 Believers in limited government were harder to find.

01:47:07.000 Political money, as usual, played a role in pressing Congress into supporting almost any proposal suggested by the neoconservatives.

01:47:15.000 This process Where campaign dollars and lobbying effort affect policy is hardly the domain of any single party.

01:47:24.000 Unfortunately, it is the way of life in Washington.

01:47:28.000 There are many reasons why government continues to grow.

01:47:32.000 It would be naive for anyone to expect otherwise.

01:47:36.000 Since 9-11, protection of privacy, whether medical, personal, or financial, has vanished.

01:47:42.000 Free speech and the Fourth Amendment have been under constant attack.

01:47:46.000 Higher welfare expenditures are endorsed by the leadership of both parties.

01:47:51.000 Policing the world and nation-building issues are popular campaign targets, yet they are now standard operating procedures here in Washington.

01:48:01.000 There's no sign that these programs will be slowed or reversed until either we are stopped by force overseas, which won't be soon, or we go broke and can no longer afford these grandiose plans for a world empire, which will probably come sooner than later.

01:48:20.000 None of this happened by accident or coincidence.

01:48:25.000 Precise philosophic ideas prompted certain individuals to gain influence to implement these plans.

01:48:32.000 The neoconservatives, a name they gave themselves, diligently worked their way into positions of power and influence.

01:48:40.000 They documented their goals, strategy, and moral justification for all they hoped to accomplish.

01:48:47.000 Above all else, they were not, and are not, conservatives dedicated to limited constitutional governance.

01:48:57.000 Neoconservatism has been around for decades and strangely has connections to past generations as far back as Machiavelli.

01:49:06.000 Modern-day neoconservatism was introduced to us in the 1960s.

01:49:11.000 It entails both a detailed strategy as well as a philosophy of government.

01:49:16.000 The ideas of Teddy Roosevelt and certainly Woodrow Wilson were quite similar.

01:49:22.000 Let's pause it right there.

01:49:23.000 This is where the speech gets good.

01:49:26.000 We'll come back in the next five minutes, play more than the first five minutes of the next hour.

01:49:29.000 Then we'll get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on for about 25 minutes.

01:49:32.000 Then I'm going to play all of it.

01:49:33.000 I'm going to play the rest of it.

01:49:35.000 Because he goes out of their own books, their own documents.

01:49:37.000 He tells you their manifesto.

01:49:39.000 And folks, they say they're going to take your freedom and destroy America.

01:49:43.000 We'll be right back.

01:49:43.000 Okay?

01:49:44.000 I'm gonna leave you.

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01:52:56.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:02.000 Alright, a couple years ago I was mailed a copy of this speech, and I can't find it.

01:53:07.000 So we didn't have it, and then it resurfaced on YouTube, which they're constantly jerking stuff down off, but we've recorded it.

01:53:14.000 It's not the best audio quality, it's decent, it's decent, then it kind of pops and burps a little bit, but that's just the nature of this rare recording.

01:53:21.000 C-SPAN will not sell a copy of this, we called them weeks after, and they go, Alex Jones, we know who you are, we're not going to sell you a tape.

01:53:27.000 We had others call, they said they don't have it.

01:53:30.000 Again, the White House got mad about this, so you're not supposed to be hearing this.

01:53:34.000 We'll continue it for this segment, the next, and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts will join us and we'll play the rest after he leaves us.

01:53:39.000 Here it is, he starts getting into who the neocons are.

01:53:43.000 Neocon spokesman Max Boot brags that what he advocates is, quote, hard Wilsonianism.

01:53:55.000 In many ways, There's nothing neo about their views, and certainly nothing's conservative.

01:54:03.000 Yet they have been able to co-opt the conservative movement by advertising themselves as a new or modern form of conservatism.

01:54:14.000 More recently, the modern-day neocons have come from the far left, a group historically identified as former Trotskyites.

01:54:22.000 Liberal Christopher Hitchens has recently joined the neocons and it has been reported that he has already been to the White House as an ad hoc consultant.

01:54:32.000 Many neocons now in position of influence in Washington can trace their status back to Professor Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago.

01:54:41.000 One of Strauss' books was Thoughts on Machiavelli.

01:54:46.000 This book was not a condemnation of Machiavelli's philosophy.

01:54:51.000 Paul Wolfowitz actually got his PhD under Strauss.

01:54:55.000 Others closely associated with these views are Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Robert Kagan, William Crystal.

01:55:03.000 All are key players in designing our new strategy of pre-emptive war.

01:55:09.000 Others include Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, former CIA Director James Woolsey, Bill Bennett of Book of Virtue fame, Frank Gaffney, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld.

01:55:23.000 There are just too many to mention who are philosophically or politically connected to the neocon philosophy in some varying degree.

01:55:33.000 The godfather of modern-day neoconservatism is considered to be Irving Kristol, father of Bill Kristol, who set the stage in 1983 with his publication, Reflections of a Neoconservative.

01:55:46.000 In this book, Kristol also defends the traditional notion on welfare.

01:55:52.000 More important than the names of people affiliated with neoconservatism are the views they adhere to.

01:55:59.000 Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe.

01:56:05.000 They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.

01:56:10.000 They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do it. 0.95

01:56:15.000 They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.

01:56:20.000 They accept the notion that the ends justify the means.

01:56:24.000 That hard politics is a moral necessity.

01:56:28.000 They express no opposition to the welfare state.

01:56:31.000 They are not bashful about an American empire.

01:56:34.000 Instead, they strongly endorse it.

01:56:37.000 They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.

01:56:41.000 They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.

01:56:45.000 They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.

01:56:55.000 They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill-advised.

01:57:00.000 They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.

01:57:03.000 They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.

01:57:08.000 Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. 0.98

01:57:13.000 Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.

01:57:17.000 9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many. 0.67

01:57:23.000 We'll be right back.

01:57:25.000 We'll be right back as he exposes the neocons.

01:57:27.000 It just gets more powerful.

01:57:29.000 Stay with us.

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01:57:39.000 They dislike and despise libertarians.

01:57:47.000 Therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.

01:57:51.000 They interest attacks on civil liberties such as those found in the Patriot Act as being necessary.

01:57:57.000 They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud party.

01:58:04.000 Various organizations and publications over the past 30 years have played a significant role in the rise to power of the neoconservatives.

01:58:13.000 It took plenty of money and commitment to produce the intellectual arguments needed to convince the many participants in the movement of its respectability.

01:58:23.000 It's no secret, especially after the rash of research and articles written about the neocons since our invasion of Iraq, how they gained influence and what organizations were used to promote their cause.

01:58:35.000 Although for decades they agitated for their beliefs through publications like the National Review, the Weekly Standard, the Public Interest, the Wall Street Journal, Commentary, and the New York Post, their views only gained momentum in the 1990s following the First Persian Gulf War, which still has not ended, even with the removal of Saddam Hussein.

01:58:55.000 They became convinced that a much more militant approach to resolving all conflicts of the Middle East was an absolute necessity and they were determined to implement that policy. 1.00

01:59:07.000 In addition to publications, multiple think tanks and projects were created to promote their agenda.

01:59:13.000 A product of the Bradley Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute led the neocon charge, but the real push for war came from the Project for a New American Century, another organization helped by the Bradley Foundation.

01:59:28.000 This occurred in 1998 and was chaired by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kistel.

01:59:33.000 They urged early on for war against Iraq, but were disappointed with the Clinton administration, which never followed through with its periodic bombings.

01:59:43.000 Obviously, those bombings were motivated more by Clinton's personal and political problems than a belief in the neocon agenda.

01:59:52.000 The election of 2000 changed all that.

01:59:55.000 The Defense Policy Board, chaired by Richard Perle, played no small role in coordinating the various projects and think tanks, all determined to take us to war against Iraq.

02:00:06.000 It wasn't too long before the dream of empire was brought closer to reality by the election of 2000 with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld playing key roles in this accomplishment.

02:00:17.000 The plan to promote an American greatness imperialistic foreign policy was now a distinct possibility.

02:00:24.000 Iraq offered a great opportunity to prove their long-held theories.

02:00:29.000 This opportunity was a consequence of the 9-11 disaster.

02:00:35.000 The money and views of Rupert Murdoch also played a key role in promoting the neocon views, as well as rallying support by the general population through his News Corporation, which owns Fox News Network, the New York Post, and Weekly Standard.

02:00:50.000 This powerful and influential media empire did more to galvanize public support for the Iraqi invasion than one might imagine.

02:01:00.000 This facilitated the Rumsfeld-Cheney policy as their plans to attack Iraq.

02:01:07.000 It would have been difficult for the neocons to use their foreign policy for restraints of Colin Powell's State Department without the successful agitation of the Rupert Murdoch Empire.

02:01:18.000 Max Boot was satisfied as he explained, quote, neoconservatives believe in using American might to promote American ideals abroad, close quote.

02:01:28.000 This attitude is a far cry from the advice of the founders who advocated no entangling alliances and neutrality as the proper goal of American foreign policy.

02:01:39.000 Let there be no doubt, those in the neocon camp had been anxious to go to war against Iraq for a decade.

02:01:47.000 They justified the use of force to accomplish their goals even if it required preemptive war.

02:01:54.000 If anyone doubts this assertion, they need only read of their strategy in A Clean Break, a new strategy for securing the realm.

02:02:03.000 Although they felt morally justified in changing the government in Iraq, they knew that public support was important and justification had to be given to pursue the war.

02:02:15.000 Of course, a threat to us had to exist before the people and the Congress would go along with war.

02:02:22.000 The majority of Americans became convinced of this threat, which in actuality never really existed.

02:02:29.000 Now we have the ongoing debate over the location of weapons of mass destruction.

02:02:34.000 Where was the danger?

02:02:36.000 Was all this killing and spending necessary?

02:02:39.000 How long will this nation building and dying go on?

02:02:42.000 When will we become more concerned about the needs of our own citizens?

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02:05:54.000 C-SPAN refused this office and other offices' request to sell to anyone the Ron Paul Neocon speech.

02:06:05.000 He got mean calls from neocons, threats.

02:06:08.000 Those have all, of course, subsided because he was just using their own quotes.

02:06:12.000 And he gave this speech, what, three years ago, just a few months into the Iraq War.

02:06:18.000 And it rings even more true today.

02:06:21.000 Coming up, there's only about 20 minutes of it left.

02:06:22.000 We'll have time in the last 30 minutes to air that.

02:06:25.000 But until the bottom of the hour, we are honored to be joined by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

02:06:29.000 He, of course, was one of the editors at the Wall Street Journal, credited with being the father of Reaganomics.

02:06:35.000 He was also number two in the main policy head, the man, the economist, I guess you could call it, or the head guy at the Department of Treasury.

02:06:45.000 And he's also a nationally syndicated columnist for Creator Syndicate, and he's gone public on government-sponsored terror, on just basically everything, on the police state, on the end of the republic, and he's written some great new articles.

02:06:58.000 The Future has caught up with us, and he goes into how we're, and he has bibliographed links to everything in here, how we're turning into basically Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

02:07:08.000 And another great article about the world's eyes.

02:07:10.000 We have become America with a K. But I was talking to him and I said, what do you want to talk about? 0.94

02:07:16.000 He said, well first I want to talk about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

02:07:20.000 Well that's good because we spent the entire first hour basically going over the fraud of this.

02:07:25.000 Number one, he was tortured.

02:07:27.000 You can't trust anybody that tortures.

02:07:27.000 That's admitted.

02:07:30.000 Number two, he couldn't possibly have carried out all these things he was supposed to carry out.

02:07:34.000 Number three, we've been lied to by the neocons over and over again, and they've planted evidence, claimed WMDs, created fake documents.

02:07:42.000 We have the White House memo.

02:07:44.000 I mean, obviously, but I want to hear what points he has to say.

02:07:46.000 I'm just recapping that there are literally hundreds of these.

02:07:50.000 The big one, though, is the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver, gave them the detonators, New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press, CBS Nightly News.

02:07:58.000 It's in my film, Road to Tyranny.

02:08:00.000 We've got links in the article Paul wrote this morning about it with the mainstream news articles that the FBI ran that off, okay?

02:08:07.000 Just like the Clinton boys ran, and now the Deputy Director's gone public.

02:08:12.000 Danny Colson's saying, yeah, government's involved.

02:08:14.000 There's a cover-up.

02:08:15.000 That was on BBC last week.

02:08:17.000 This stuff's unraveling.

02:08:18.000 So it's basically like saying Khalid Sheikh Mohammed killed Kennedy Lincoln, assassinated Santa Claus. 0.76

02:08:26.000 He's the guy that blew up the Lusitania, the Maine. 0.98

02:08:30.000 I mean, this is ridiculous.

02:08:32.000 To give us his take on it is Dr. Paul Craig Roberts. 0.92

02:08:34.000 Doctor, thanks for coming on with us.

02:08:37.000 Well hey Alex, I wasn't going to give you my take, I was going to ask you for yours, but you just gave it to me.

02:08:42.000 Okay, well, I mentioned during the break, okay, well, then we were just coming in, I said, you said, well, what about this Khalid thing?

02:08:49.000 Well, I was wondering, you know, how, because of the position you've taken on the 9-11, when you have an allegedly high al-Qaeda guy confessing what you made of it, I, I, I, When I saw the news I came to the same conclusion.

02:09:06.000 He's obviously been tortured for a number of years and if you're being tortured and you figure you're done for anyhow you might as well get some PR out of it.

02:09:17.000 So I figured if they were going to uh...

02:09:20.000 kill me regardless i would say i'd all this too so i could go down history is some kind of super martyr or hero or the other side well it's pretty ridiculous and i think they screwed up because they put in so many things that he clearly in fact that the associated process strangely and he'd never been any connection al-qaeda or that al-qaeda was even involved in terror in nineteen ninety three but now we know he ran the whole 0.99

02:09:45.000 I know all about that case, and it was FBI from start to finish, Bill Clinton, but you cannot, I mean, to claim Al-Qaeda was involved, this is, they really think the public's stupid. 0.99

02:09:56.000 Well, the public has fallen for most of their lies.

02:10:01.000 What struck me about it, too, I think it's something you also mentioned is that there's so many things that he is said to have done and it almost seems that that's excessive.

02:10:16.000 I mean there's only so many hours in a year and for him to have planned and done all of these things it did seem to be like too many admissions, too many charges, Yeah, 29 attacks and hundreds of others planned, and I went and looked up some timelines last night and this morning.

02:10:38.000 I'm doing a piece on this, or contributing to one, trying to, and you don't even hear about this guy until 1996, so I think they really screwed up bringing him into masterminding huge events where he wasn't even, you know, basically existing.

02:10:53.000 But, you know, Alex, a lot of people are going to believe them, and it makes me feel like It's a setback to the 9-11 truth movement because they now have somebody who's confessed and many people won't know about the torture or they'll discount it.

02:11:15.000 So I think in a way it may be the way they've decided to answer David Ray Griffin and others and including the emphasis that your program puts on it.

02:11:29.000 But I don't know anything else about it.

02:11:32.000 The thing is, it strikes me, if he actually did plan all this stuff, the building still blew up.

02:11:45.000 That's the mystery.

02:11:46.000 How did he manage to have the buildings wired so they would Well, here's the question.

02:11:56.000 I agree with you.

02:11:57.000 How did he make NORAD stand down?

02:11:59.000 How did he run CIA drills at the exact same time being attacked?

02:12:04.000 How did he mash 44,000 and a bunch of British troops as well, 44,000 U.S.

02:12:08.000 and 18-something thousand British troops and have the launch orders to attack Afghanistan?

02:12:14.000 Well, we thought Captain Marvel, or Captain America, or Captain Marvel, whichever his name was, dead, but apparently he's still alive.

02:12:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:18.000 Muhammad Adah, how did he get Muhammad Adah to train at the Defense Language School and to have the dean of the school go public and say the government was behind it?

02:12:26.000 I mean, this guy's got power that I only thought Jesus had.

02:12:30.000 Well we thought Captain Marvel, or Captain America, or Captain Marvel, whichever his name was dead, but apparently he's still alive.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:37.000 His name is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

02:12:40.000 Well, okay, that's all.

02:12:42.000 I just wanted to know your take on it, because I couldn't listen to you earlier.

02:12:45.000 I was in the dentist chair.

02:12:46.000 Well, I would be honored if you even took my opinion as worth anything, but, I mean, no.

02:12:50.000 I mean, that's what... Listen, they've had him for over four years, and they're not going to have real trials.

02:12:56.000 I mean, these are secret trials, and they even redacted what... Well, we don't even know that he said any of that.

02:13:02.000 Exactly.

02:13:03.000 These are not open court, and they can produce what Any kind of transcript?

02:13:10.000 They won't!

02:13:11.000 Just like Stalin's guys produced in the Purge trials. 0.72

02:13:15.000 They produced whatever kind of transcript Stalin wanted.

02:13:19.000 Well, that's the point I wanted to ask you about.

02:13:20.000 And that's a really good point I hadn't thought about.

02:13:24.000 They could just totally even fake this.

02:13:26.000 It doesn't even matter.

02:13:27.000 That's right.

02:13:28.000 It could be a total fake.

02:13:30.000 Well, remember what they did with the American they grabbed and then finally convicted on other charges and then at the conviction They brought in statements about 9-11 when that wasn't even what Padilla was convicted for, and then it came out that they had tortured the guy until he was basically a mental patient.

02:13:48.000 Yeah, they can give you all kinds of mind-altering drugs.

02:13:54.000 You see, my opinion, my position on this has always been, if they actually know enough about these guys to know that they're terrorists and done these things, then they have enough evidence to bring into open court.

02:14:08.000 The only reason they need secret courts and secret trials and secret evidence is because they don't have any evidence.

02:14:15.000 And so they have to pretend they have it and claim they have it, and they do that in proceedings that are not open.

02:14:22.000 So it's obviously no need for secret trials and secret evidence.

02:14:28.000 If you actually have evidence on something.

02:14:30.000 Well, Americans knew back during Vietnam, after an airman had been gone for four years or five years, they show up with their eyes all sunk in, with their heads shaved, lying about the U.S.

02:14:41.000 war, and, you know, putting out propaganda, to know that was Bull.

02:14:45.000 I mean, you cannot listen to anything that a witness says who's been held secretly for four years, when they admit they're torturing people.

02:14:53.000 I mean, that's just a no-brainer.

02:14:55.000 Right.

02:14:56.000 It's a no-brainer.

02:14:56.000 I agree.

02:14:57.000 So I think that, in a way, the Military Tribunals Act undercuts any of the transcripts or testimonial claims the tribunals can make, because they're secret, they're based on secret evidence, and they're not in open court.

02:15:15.000 There's no reason to believe anything they say.

02:15:18.000 So... Now, I mean, let me just put it on record.

02:15:20.000 If you get grabbed or I get grabbed, which National Talk Show hosts have named me and said I should be arrested, and they've named many others, uh, if we disappear into some black hole, folks, if I come out two years later and start saying I, you know, am an Al-Qaeda person, please, that's not true!

02:15:36.000 I mean, I don't think I can hold up to four years of torture.

02:15:39.000 Could you, Dr. Roberts?

02:15:41.000 Oh, who could?

02:15:43.000 Nobody could.

02:15:46.000 Nobody ever has that I know of.

02:15:50.000 The only people that escape it, they torture them so bad they die, but they're pretty good now at keeping you alive.

02:15:55.000 They got that deal where they stop your heart, but your conscious?

02:15:59.000 They get up on TV and brag about it?

02:16:00.000 You know, when they come for you, you just have to take out as many of them as you can and just die right there. 1.00

02:16:08.000 You remember old Gordon Liddy used to say a long time ago, shoot for the head, the bastards wear body armor. 1.00

02:16:16.000 Boy, they got mad at him about that, didn't they? 1.00

02:16:19.000 They did, I'm sure.

02:16:24.000 I don't know where he stands on all these issues because he's not on the radio around here anymore.

02:16:30.000 That was his solution. 1.00

02:16:31.000 When they come for you, take as many as you can, shoot for the head, because the bastards wear body armor. 1.00

02:16:35.000 He used to say that all the time. 1.00

02:16:37.000 Well, here's the good news.

02:16:39.000 At least I'm getting this.

02:16:40.000 A lot of people in government now know what's going on, and I do see a lot of people awake.

02:16:44.000 But then you've got that segment that'll believe anything they're told.

02:16:47.000 Yeah, they'll believe anything they're told.

02:16:48.000 And the media will love this story.

02:16:52.000 This is exciting.

02:16:54.000 They'll spin it for them.

02:16:57.000 Anyhow, let's get on to the other topics.

02:16:59.000 You're way out of my expertise on this.

02:17:02.000 Well, we're about to break.

02:17:03.000 We've just got one more short segment.

02:17:04.000 I was just glad to see you wrote an article about the Brave New World and basically how that's coming true.

02:17:12.000 Well, that's right.

02:17:14.000 It's the three famous dystopias, Huxley's Orwell's and Franz Kafka's Novels of France.

02:17:23.000 They have predicted our future as much as 75 years ago.

02:17:29.000 I've read all three of those novels, as well as Wee by the Russian novelist, and it is scary.

02:17:34.000 I just... Well, Huxley said that that was the actual plan.

02:17:37.000 That's why he wrote it.

02:17:38.000 We'll be right back with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

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02:21:50.000 Really, time's just flying past.

02:21:52.000 Maybe I'll twist his arm and stay five minutes in the next segment before we finish the Ron Paul speech.

02:21:58.000 A new story, The Future Has Caught Up With Us, he wrote a few days ago.

02:22:01.000 It's excellent.

02:22:01.000 There's like 50 links in this thing, documenting every statement he makes.

02:22:05.000 The Future Has Caught Up With Us, this is a pretty discomfit little treatise you put together.

02:22:10.000 Give us your take on it.

02:22:12.000 Well, I looked at the three anti-utopian novels, the dystopias.

02:22:18.000 Kafka's The Trial, George Orwell's 1984, and Huxley's Brave New World.

02:22:24.000 And if you look at those three, you have a portrait of present-day United States.

02:22:31.000 Of them, I think the most scary is Franz Kafka's novel, because at least in 1984, The person knows he committed a fault crime.

02:22:43.000 He was guilty of a fault crime.

02:22:46.000 But in Kafka's novel, in Joseph K., no reasons are ever given for why he's arrested.

02:22:56.000 And the crime that he's tried for is unspecified.

02:22:59.000 It's never said what it was.

02:23:03.000 And he's then executed.

02:23:05.000 So there you have a model for the military tribunals.

02:23:09.000 that the Bush regime got the Republicans to pass, because that act permits people to be executed on the basis of hearsay, on the basis of secret evidence unknown to the defendant, and on the basis of confession extracted on the basis of secret evidence unknown to the defendant, and on And on the basis of a confession extracted by torture.

02:23:29.000 And they admit that.

02:23:30.000 I mean, even the Nazis didn't put it down on paper.

02:23:33.000 Why do you think Gonzales and these guys are so arrogant?

02:23:36.000 I mean, why do they have the most aplomb or hubris or chutzpah that I've ever seen?

02:23:43.000 And I mean, I've studied quite a bit of history.

02:23:45.000 I've never seen such arrogance.

02:23:47.000 And I don't know what the explanation For it is.

02:23:47.000 No, I haven't either.

02:23:51.000 It's like they never expect to be held accountable.

02:23:54.000 That means it's like they expect to always be in power.

02:23:59.000 So I don't know what it means.

02:24:01.000 Let's not glaze over what you just said.

02:24:03.000 You just hit the nail right through the board.

02:24:06.000 They are doing everything by the book to set up a total dictatorship and acting just like it.

02:24:12.000 I think they would like to have that.

02:24:14.000 I don't know that they can achieve that.

02:24:17.000 I think it's too much That's kind of like this sheet being responsible for everything that's happened in the last 20 years.

02:24:27.000 I think it's too big of a task, but I could be wrong.

02:24:31.000 I mean, I have no way of knowing, but I agree that that's something they would like.

02:24:35.000 They would like to have total power, total unaccountable power for the rest of their lives, yeah.

02:24:42.000 Well, I mean, Hitler had total power, and in limited circles they said he had power, but he even wasn't this arrogant.

02:24:49.000 I just can't believe that they are... The economy, Dr. Roberts, where do you see that going with these mortgage, these subprime lenders in so much trouble?

02:25:00.000 What do you see happening with the dollar being inflated?

02:25:03.000 Well, I think the mortgage thing will be contained.

02:25:07.000 It'll hurt a lot of individuals, but I don't think it'll destroy the economy.

02:25:12.000 The dollar would have already been replaced as the world, as the reserve currency, if there was a clear enough alternative.

02:25:24.000 And don't know how much worse the dollar has to get before people are ready to take something else.

02:25:33.000 Well, I agree, but aren't we seeing instead of the Euro or something else rising as the clear, you know, backed up currency for the petrodollar, you know, for the conversion, instead we're seeing this basket, we're seeing this move into a spectrum of currencies and other assets.

02:25:50.000 I mean, China's announced they're going to dump, what, 30% of their trillion?

02:25:56.000 Well, I don't know if they actually made that kind of announcement, but they did say that they were going to Manage it differently so that they can make more money.

02:26:07.000 I think the Financial Times said that they were going to take $300 billion or something and invest it in other things.

02:26:15.000 Yeah, well, over time, I suspect, $300 billion all at once would have a -- it would be a devastating blow to Well, do you see a kind of creeping towards the door, like everybody doesn't want to be left holding the bag, but they know if they rush it'll totally tank the dollar, and so they want kind of a gradual decline, or do you see the dollar resurging?

02:26:41.000 Well, I think what it is is they don't know where to put it, where to take it.

02:26:45.000 It's not that there's a... When you have fiat Paper currencies as the reserve, there's no clear place to run to.

02:26:55.000 You know, the Chinese are tied to the dollar, so you can't really run there. 0.68

02:27:00.000 The Japanese don't want the reserve currency role, and made that clear.

02:27:04.000 The Euro could possibly take it, but that's not certain either.

02:27:10.000 So I think they just don't know what to do, Alex.

02:27:12.000 They're worried.

02:27:14.000 But it's not necessarily where they see a solution.

02:27:17.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

02:27:18.000 This is only a three-minute break, and I've got to play this clip so I won't keep you too long.

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02:27:29.000 And tell us where you think it's going.

02:27:32.000 We'll be right back.

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02:31:22.000 Welcome back.

02:31:25.000 We're talking to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, and I've just been having him on for years.

02:31:29.000 I always say, is there a book we can plug?

02:31:31.000 Is there an article we can plug?

02:31:32.000 No, he just comes on to get the word out, but we'd love to support him in any other way we could.

02:31:37.000 The Future's Caught Up With Us is one of the great articles he's written.

02:31:39.000 He writes multiple great reports every week on a wide range of topics.

02:31:43.000 We post them up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

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02:31:50.000 A story he wrote a few weeks ago was Americans have lost their country.

02:31:55.000 Excellent piece.

02:31:56.000 And he's a real conservative, like Congressman Ron Paul.

02:31:59.000 In closing, what do you see happening?

02:32:01.000 I mean, is it going to go on forever where Greenspan can double the money supply and then Bernanke comes in and says he's going to double it again and then makes the M3 money supply secret?

02:32:13.000 I mean, you were in there setting a lot of that at the Treasury with the Federal Reserve.

02:32:18.000 I mean, how long can it continue with, you know, the dollar's been devalued by 40-something percent, but the general public doesn't even know what that means, but some poor migrant from Mexico does. 0.90

02:32:29.000 People in Canada are laughing at us, because now Canadian money's worth more than ours.

02:32:34.000 I mean, how long is this party going to go with 80-something trillion dollar obligations?

02:32:41.000 Well, you know, obviously it can't go on.

02:32:43.000 It can't go on forever.

02:32:44.000 Just like Warren Buffett said, you know, things that can't go on forever won't.

02:32:48.000 And it won't go on forever.

02:32:51.000 It could still be corrected if they would stop running budget deficits and if they would stop this offshoring of production for American markets.

02:33:03.000 What do you think of Halliburton moving to Dubai?

02:33:09.000 I think that the Middle East will go against the United States and that they'll be very vulnerable there, but I don't really know.

02:33:16.000 But to come back to this dollar, you know, look, the situation could be still corrected.

02:33:25.000 It doesn't mean that they will.

02:33:28.000 It doesn't mean they'll stop running budget deficits or trade deficits.

02:33:33.000 But keep this in mind, what the whole focus is on is on our energy dependence.

02:33:38.000 Oh, we're energy dependent.

02:33:39.000 We have Bush running around in South America trying to do ethanol deals. 0.77

02:33:44.000 And we have all the big oil companies, they're talking now about getting ethanol from trees and grass.

02:33:51.000 And the fact is, the energy deficit is small compared to our deficit in manufactured goods.

02:34:01.000 For example, in 2004, the United States trade deficit in manufactured goods was almost three and a half times larger than the deficit in crude oil.

02:34:12.000 It was two and a half times larger than the deficit in mineral fuels, which would include refined gasoline.

02:34:18.000 I'm not sure they have natural gas in that as well.

02:34:22.000 Just the deficit in vehicles and clothing is 1.4 times. - And then they had a 1.9% drop in the last quarter and they call that great booming export business? - Well, there's no booming export business.

02:34:39.000 We have a tremendous deficit.

02:34:41.000 But what I'm pointing out is everyone thinks it's because of energy, we have to import the oil.

02:34:46.000 But look, as I said, just-- - We get it cheaper than Japan and China.

02:34:51.000 It doesn't make any difference.

02:34:52.000 I'm talking about the magnitude.

02:34:53.000 No, I understand, I understand.

02:34:55.000 What we spend on clothes and vehicles is 1.4 times greater than what we spend on importing crude oil.

02:35:03.000 Look, in 2005, the trade deficit, the American trade deficit in manufactured goods was $506 billion.

02:35:14.000 That was 2.8 times the value of the crude oil imports of $182 billion.

02:35:20.000 So you see, it's not what they tell you.

02:35:24.000 It's not, oh, if we could only have energy independence.

02:35:28.000 It's all the offshore production of goods and services for American markets.

02:35:34.000 Well, isn't that just modern mercantilism?

02:35:38.000 No, it's American capital chasing absolute advantage and lowest factor cost abroad.

02:35:47.000 I understand it's short-term gain, but to have certain sectors, and that's what the globalists say, we're going to have certain things made here and certain things put together there, and then that balances and keeps control of everybody, but then it's the multinational corporation that moves into the governmental capacity in that system.

02:36:05.000 Well, the way it's moving, if that isn't the case, in fact the case is, nothing will be made here.

02:36:14.000 It'll all be made somewhere else.

02:36:17.000 And I can't see how that's in anyone's interest, really.

02:36:21.000 Do you think Bush is going to hang on?

02:36:21.000 I agree with you.

02:36:23.000 Do you think Gonzalez will step down?

02:36:24.000 Do you think the Democrats will end up being even worse?

02:36:28.000 I don't know.

02:36:29.000 I don't think... You know, Alex, you know as well as As I do, that both parties are controlled by the same organized interest groups.

02:36:38.000 APAC, the Energy, the Military-Industrial Complex.

02:36:42.000 They're the three most powerful.

02:36:44.000 And it's just hard to see.

02:36:46.000 And they're all in bed together, so... They're all in bed together, so I don't know what's going to happen.

02:36:53.000 But, you know, look, what was the consequence of Hitler's hubris? 0.90

02:36:58.000 He overreached.

02:37:00.000 He marched into Russia and he had a Stalingrad.

02:37:03.000 Now, I think these people may have overreached.

02:37:05.000 When?

02:37:06.000 Okay, what is their water load?

02:37:08.000 Well, it may be this U.S. 0.54

02:37:11.000 Attorney thing.

02:37:12.000 It may not have anything to do with the things that most concern us.

02:37:16.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:37:18.000 I've always said that.

02:37:20.000 It may have to do simply with something like, you know, what's bringing Tony Blair down?

02:37:24.000 It's not all his real crimes.

02:37:26.000 It's this honors for cash deal.

02:37:29.000 Yeah, some petty bribery deal.

02:37:30.000 Some petty bribery deal.

02:37:32.000 So you don't ever know what's gonna... You know, they never got Al Capone for gangsterism.

02:37:37.000 They got him on income tax evasion.

02:37:40.000 Yeah, they didn't get him for the St.

02:37:41.000 Valentine's Massacre, yeah.

02:37:43.000 Right, so you don't, we don't know.

02:37:44.000 It may be they've overreached.

02:37:46.000 It may be that it's just too much stuff has happened, and I don't think the Democrats are as likely to cover up for them as the Republicans, and so it just may be too much for the system to absorb.

02:38:02.000 Plus, you know, Democrats are ambitious, too.

02:38:05.000 And so they may want to take them out and be there themselves.

02:38:09.000 Maybe they want all the payoffs from the interest groups rather than letting Bush and Cheney and Halliburton have them.

02:38:15.000 I agree.

02:38:16.000 All right.

02:38:17.000 Well, Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, thank you for popping in with us.

02:38:19.000 We'll talk to you in the next month or so.

02:38:21.000 You'll grace us.

02:38:22.000 And folks can look for all your great columns all over the Internet.

02:38:24.000 You're very prolific.

02:38:25.000 And thank you for spending time with us.

02:38:27.000 George talking to you, Alex.

02:38:28.000 Goodbye.

02:38:28.000 Take care.

02:38:29.000 All right.

02:38:30.000 We don't have to have the last five minutes tomorrow.

02:38:30.000 Right back now.

02:38:33.000 We're five minutes behind.

02:38:34.000 But here is the bulk where he gets into the neocons and their strategy and who runs the White House and what their agenda is.

02:38:40.000 Congressman Ron Paul, three and a half years ago, talking about the neocons and how they're not real conservatives.

02:38:47.000 And C-SPAN's banned this video by...

02:38:50.000 People have been arrested for distributing this to the police.

02:38:53.000 The police think this video is illegal.

02:38:55.000 I'm not joking.

02:38:56.000 This is the new Soviet America, and it's just a calmed doctor, a family doctor, reading their quotes, but it scares them. 0.99

02:39:03.000 They're criminals. 0.81

02:39:03.000 And it should scare them. 0.81

02:39:04.000 Here it is.

02:39:05.000 Who knows where we'll go next?

02:39:07.000 Iran, Syria, North Korea.

02:39:10.000 At the end of the Cold War, the neoconservatives realized a rearrangement of the world was occurring, in that our superior economic and military power offered them a perfect opportunity to control the process of remaking the Middle East.

02:39:26.000 It was recognized that a new era was upon us, and the neocons welcomed Francis Fukuyama's End of History Declaration.

02:39:35.000 To them, the debate was over.

02:39:38.000 The West won.

02:39:39.000 The Soviets lost.

02:39:40.000 Old-fashioned communism was dead.

02:39:42.000 Long live the new era of neoconservatism.

02:39:46.000 The struggle may not be over, but the West won the intellectual fight they reasoned.

02:39:51.000 The only problem is that the neocons decided to define the philosophy of the victors.

02:39:57.000 They have been amazingly successful in their efforts to control the debate over what Western values are and by what methods they will be spread throughout the world.

02:40:08.000 Communism surely lost a lot with the breakup of the Soviet Empire, but this can hardly be declared a victory for American liberty as the founders understood it.

02:40:19.000 Neoconservatism is not the philosophy of free markets and a wise foreign policy.

02:40:24.000 Instead, it represents big government, welfare at home, and a program of using our military might to spread their version of American values throughout the world.

02:40:34.000 Since neoconservatives dominate the way the U.S.

02:40:37.000 government now operates, it behooves us all to understand their beliefs and goals.

02:40:43.000 The breakup of the Soviet system may well have been an epic event, but to say that the views of the neocons are the unchallenged victors and that all we need to do is wait for their implementation is a capitulation to the controlling of the forces of history that many Americans are not yet ready to concede.

02:41:03.000 There is surely no need to be so.

02:41:07.000 There is now a recognized philosophic connection between modern-day neoconservatives and Irving Kristol, Leo Strauss, and Machiavelli.

02:41:16.000 This is important in understanding that today's policies and the subsequent problems will be with us for years to come if these policies are not reversed.

02:41:26.000 Not only did Leo Strauss write favorably of Machiavelli, Michael Ledeen, a current leader of the neoconservative movement, did the same in 1999 in his book with the title, Machiavelli on Modern Leadership, Why Machiavelli Armed Rules Are as Timely and Important Today Five Centuries Ago.

02:41:45.000 Ledeen is indeed an influential neocon theorist whose views get a lot of attention today in Washington.

02:41:52.000 His book on Machiavelli, interestingly enough, was passed out to members of Congress attending a political strategy meeting shortly after its publication and at just about the same time a clean break was issued.

02:42:08.000 In Ledeen's most recent publication, The War Against the Terror Masters, he reiterates his beliefs he outlined in 1999.

02:42:17.000 He specifically created destruction, both within our society and abroad.

02:42:23.000 Foreigners seeing America undo traditional societies may fear us, for they do not wish to be undone.

02:42:31.000 Amazingly, Ledeen continues, they must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.

02:42:42.000 If those words don't scare you, nothing will.

02:42:45.000 If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be.

02:42:49.000 It sounds like both sides of each disagreement in the world will be following the principles of preemptive war.

02:42:56.000 The world is certainly a less safe place for it.

02:43:00.000 In Machiavelli on Modern Leadership, Ledeen praises a business leader for correctly understanding Machiavelli.

02:43:08.000 Quote, There are no absolute solutions.

02:43:11.000 It all depends.

02:43:12.000 What is right and what is wrong depends on what needs to be done and how.

02:43:17.000 Close quote.

02:43:18.000 This is a clear endorsement of situation ethics and is not coming from the traditional left.

02:43:23.000 It reminds me of, it depends on what the definition of the word is, is.

02:43:29.000 Ledeen quotes Machiavelli approvingly on what makes a great leader.

02:43:34.000 Quote, a prince must have no other objectives or other thoughts or take anything for his craft except war.

02:43:44.000 To Ledeen, this meant, quote, the virtue of the warrior are those of great leaders of any successful organization.

02:43:53.000 It's obvious, and that's close quote, it's obvious that war is not coincidental to neocon philosophy but an integral part.

02:44:03.000 The intellectuals justify it and the politicians carry it out.

02:44:07.000 There's a precise reason to argue for war over peace according to Ledeen for, quote, peace Increases our peril by making discipline less urgent.

02:44:19.000 Encouraging some of our worst instincts in depriving us of some of our best leaders.

02:44:24.000 Peace, he claims, is a dream and not even a pleasant one, for it would cause indolence and would undermine the power of the state.

02:44:33.000 Although I concede the history of the world is a history of frequent war, to capitulate and give up even striving for peace, believing peace is not a benefit to mankind, is a frightening thought that condemns the world to perpetual war and justifies it as a benefit and necessity.

02:44:53.000 These are dangerous ideas from which no good can come.

02:44:58.000 The conflict of the ages has been between the state and the individual.

02:45:02.000 Central power versus liberty.

02:45:05.000 The more restrained the state, and the more emphasis on individual liberty, the greater has been the advancement of civilization and general prosperity.

02:45:15.000 Just as man's condition was not locked in place by the times and wars of old, and improved with liberty and free markets, there's no reason to believe a new stage for man might not be achieved by believing and working for conditions of peace.

02:45:31.000 The inevitability and so-called need for preemptive war should never be intellectually justified as being a benefit.

02:45:40.000 Such an attitude guarantees the backsliding of civilization.

02:45:44.000 Neocons unfortunately claim that war is in man's nature and that we can't do much about it.

02:45:49.000 So let's use it to our advantage by promoting our goodness around the world through force of arms.

02:45:56.000 That view is anathema to the cause of liberty and the preservation of the Constitution.

02:46:01.000 If it is not loudly refuted, our future will be dire indeed.

02:46:07.000 Ledeen believes man is basic evil and cannot be left to his own desires.

02:46:12.000 Therefore, he must have proper and strong leadership, just as Machiavelli argued.

02:46:18.000 Only then can man achieve good, as Ledeen explains, In order to achieve the most noble accomplishment, the leader may have to enter into evil.

02:46:30.000 This is the chilling insight that has made Machiavelli so feared, admired, and challenging.

02:46:36.000 We are rotten.

02:46:38.000 It's true that we can achieve greatness if, and only if, we are properly led.

02:46:45.000 In other words, Man is so depraved that individuals are incapable of moral, ethical, and spiritual greatness, and achieving excellence and virtue can only come from a powerful, authoritarian leader.

02:46:59.000 What depraved ideas are these to now be influencing our leaders in Washington?

02:47:05.000 The question Ledeen doesn't answer is, why do the political leaders not suffer from the same shortcomings in their monopoly on wisdom?

02:47:14.000 Once this trust is placed in the hands of a powerful leader, this neocon argues that certain rules are permissible to use.

02:47:23.000 For instance, quote, this is what Ledeen says, quote, lying is central to the survival of nations and to the success of great enterprises.

02:47:33.000 Because if our enemies can count on the reliability of everything you say, your vulnerability is enormously increased.

02:47:42.000 Close quote.

02:47:43.000 What about the effects of lying on one's own people?

02:47:46.000 Who cares if a leader can fool the enemy?

02:47:49.000 Does calling it strategic deception make lying morally justifiable?

02:47:54.000 Ledeen and Machiavelli argue that it does, as long as the survivability of the state is at stake.

02:48:01.000 Preserving state is their goal, even if personal liberty of all individuals has to be suspended or cancelled.

02:48:10.000 Ledeen makes it clear that war is necessary.

02:48:14.000 Good pause there.

02:48:14.000 We'll come back and play a few more minutes of it.

02:48:16.000 There's only like five minutes left.

02:48:17.000 We'll play it tomorrow.

02:48:18.000 This is getting so good right here.

02:48:19.000 I'll probably back it up and play it like ten more minutes tomorrow.

02:48:22.000 Then we'll be done.

02:48:23.000 It's actually a fifty minute, fifty-two minute speech.

02:48:27.000 And these are quotes by these guys. 0.98

02:48:29.000 See, we have to kill everybody on 9-11. 0.98

02:48:32.000 It's for a greater good for our empire. 0.99

02:48:35.000 And that's just what they tell their mid-level people.

02:48:37.000 Up top, they know they're just evil.

02:48:40.000 We'll be right back, talking about our leaders.

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02:53:18.000 Here it is.

02:53:19.000 Dean makes it clear that war is necessary to establish national boundaries, because that's the way it's always been done.

02:53:28.000 Who needs progress of the human race?

02:53:30.000 He explains, quote, look at the map of the world.

02:53:34.000 National boundaries have not been drawn by peaceful men leading lives of spiritual contemplation.

02:53:40.000 National boundaries have been established by war and national character has been shaped by struggle, most often bloody struggle.

02:53:47.000 Close quote.

02:53:50.000 Yes, but who is to lead the charge and decide which borders we are to fight for?

02:53:57.000 What about the borders 6,000 miles away unrelated to our own contiguous borders and our own national security?

02:54:06.000 Stating a relative truism regarding the frequency of war throughout history should hardly be the moral justification for expanding the concept of war to settle man's disputes.

02:54:18.000 How can one call this progress?

02:54:21.000 Machiavelli, Ledin, and the neocons recognize a need to generate a religious zeal for promoting the state.

02:54:30.000 This, he claims, is especially necessary when force is used to promote an agenda.

02:54:35.000 It's been true throughout history and remains true today. 0.67

02:54:37.000 Each side of major conflicts invoke God's approval.

02:54:41.000 Our side refers to a crusade, theirs to a holy jihad. 0.95

02:54:46.000 Too many wars boil down to their God against our God.

02:54:50.000 It seems this principle is more a cynical effort to gain approval from the masses, especially those most likely to be killed for the sake of the war promoters on both sides who have power, prestige, and wealth at stake.

02:55:05.000 Ledeen explains why God must always be on the side of the advocates of war. 0.88

02:55:10.000 Quote, without fear of God, no state can last long, for the dread of eternal damnation keeps men in line, causes them to honor their promises, and inspires them to risk their lives for the common good.

02:55:23.000 Close quote.

02:55:24.000 It seems dying for the common good... Look, we're going to back this up 10 minutes, and I'm just going to air 20 minutes of it in the first hour tomorrow.

02:55:30.000 This is too powerful, because I want to analyze each point.

02:55:33.000 Also, these are literal pot-bellied, rotten-muscled, Green-skinned chicken necks. 0.96

02:55:41.000 These neocons, none of them have fought. 1.00

02:55:43.000 They're all cowards. 1.00

02:55:44.000 I've read about them. 1.00

02:55:45.000 They all live little sequestered lives.

02:55:47.000 Never even been in fistfights, folks.

02:55:49.000 These are literal wimps. 0.99

02:55:50.000 So, of course, they think war's real cool, fighting's real cool, as any piece of trash does. 0.99

02:55:56.000 Okay? 0.95

02:55:56.000 Real warriors don't like to have to go to war. 0.95

02:55:59.000 And then, you expand on it.

02:56:01.000 This is a war of empire to go dominate and enslave people.

02:56:04.000 And by the way, the same people that are launching this war are abolishing the U.S.

02:56:08.000 sovereignty with the NAU, North American Union.

02:56:13.000 So it's played five minutes yesterday, about 40 minutes today.

02:56:16.000 I'm going to come back tomorrow in the first hour, play more of this, analyze it.

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