Alex Jones Show - 20070414_Sunjata_Alex

00:00:00.000 Television, but I had once or twice actually seen the television show because it's very popular.

00:00:05.000 One of the most popular on cable, on FX, Rescue Me.

00:00:09.000 The star of Rescue Me.

00:00:11.000 And he plays the fireman Franco on the program.

00:00:14.000 And he's had a lot of other roles, of course, in television and movies.

00:00:17.000 But the point is, he has the courage to go public on 9-11.

00:00:22.000 You know, frankly, Kurt Vonnegut didn't It was never clear if Kurt Vonnegut wanted his views on 9-11 to be public.

00:00:33.000 So I didn't make his full views that have been relayed to me and through him to me on 9-11.

00:00:40.000 As we put a story out yesterday about was Kurt Vonnegut a 9-11 truther?

00:00:43.000 The headline probably should have been Kurt Vonnegut was a 9-11 skeptic.

00:00:48.000 I found out that he'd seen my films by one of his business partners, his associate.

00:00:53.000 Then I got in contact with him.

00:00:55.000 I sent him more of my films per request.

00:00:57.000 And Kurt Vonnegut then sent me a signed, you know, one of his lithograph paintings of the open birdcage.

00:01:04.000 You know, the freedom of the mind, I guess, or freedom of the soul is what it symbolizes, he said.

00:01:08.000 Or just, you know, freedom.

00:01:11.000 And, you know, hand signed.

00:01:13.000 I just felt like, you know, the guy died two days ago, it was public yesterday, and that's important historically.

00:01:18.000 I mean, he said the only difference between Bush, this is an exact quote, the only difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler was elected.

00:01:26.000 And he was elected the President, and then he became President and Chancellor, abolished those offices for the office of the Führer.

00:01:33.000 When von Hindenburg died, he became the Chancellor as well.

00:01:37.000 So, yes, bottom line, Kurt Vonnegut, another, you know, just an icon, was investigating 9-11 and I can tell you knew that it certainly wasn't what we were told.

00:01:49.000 But I'm going to leave it at that because some of that stuff that was relayed to me was private.

00:01:55.000 We deserve to know that, so I'm going to leave it at that.

00:01:58.000 There were a few skeptics on the message board going, what are you doing?

00:02:00.000 What are you posting this for?

00:02:02.000 You know, so you claim he sent you this letter and he sent you this little picture, a hand sign.

00:02:10.000 Oh, I bet.

00:02:11.000 Well, folks, I mean, it's really true that James Brolin's gone public on 9-11 and Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen and And frankly, if I told you the people that I know personally that know about 9-11, it even dwarfs those huge celebrities.

00:02:25.000 Of the top five biggest people in Hollywood, I personally talked to three of the biggest, okay, who've known for years it's an inside job, but they're not going to go public, and I'm not going to blow their cover.

00:02:36.000 But I'm going to shut up about that.

00:02:39.000 Daniel Sanjata has incredible courage, and he joins us now via cell phone.

00:02:45.000 Are you in Chicago or Los Angeles?

00:02:47.000 I'm actually in New York City right now.

00:02:49.000 You're in New York right now.

00:02:50.000 Well, thanks for listening for three minutes while I babble.

00:02:53.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself, about your TV show, why you like playing the fireman, some of the easy stuff up front, and then how you woke up to 9-11 and what you think happened and what the repercussions have been of going public.

00:03:06.000 Sure.

00:03:07.000 Well, you know, there really haven't been too many repercussions at this point, Alex.

00:03:11.000 I think I'm a small enough fish in the pond that my coming out publicly about 9-11 being an inside job has not created any, you know, tremendous, you know, seismic disturbances.

00:03:23.000 But I did want to say, though, I think it really is getting to a point where it's... I don't know the quote exactly.

00:03:30.000 I've heard you say it many, many times, though, that You know, and I'm hoping that you can repeat it for my benefit, maybe for the benefit of your audience members who might also not remember it.

00:03:40.000 Something about when a patriot first speaks out, it's something that's dangerous.

00:03:45.000 Sure, sure.

00:03:45.000 It's Mark Twain.

00:03:46.000 I usually flummox it myself, but I mean, the full quote is, a patriot in the beginning is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

00:04:01.000 That was Mark Twain.

00:04:02.000 Amen, amen to that.

00:04:04.000 I think it really is getting to the point where it's, I wouldn't say it's getting to the point where it may cost nothing to be a patriot, but it certainly seems like it's getting to that very critical tipping point where speaking out about 9-11 truth is something that's becoming almost popular to do.

00:04:19.000 And I don't know what exactly it is.

00:04:21.000 You know, it's almost like I'm watching this huge dam that seems like it should have broken about three, four months ago.

00:04:26.000 And maybe when loose change hits theaters this summer, maybe if we can finally get a very public platform for people like Professor Stephen Jones.

00:04:36.000 Uh, yourself, other people who have come out publicly, Rosie, Charlie, to actually talk about these issues.

00:04:42.000 Maybe then, maybe then it'll, the dam will completely break and it'll become, we'll have an opportunity to really debate the actual facts of and points of contention in a public arena.

00:04:53.000 That's what I'm really hoping for.

00:04:54.000 In terms of my background, Again, I'm a small fish in the pond.

00:04:59.000 I'm a working actor in New York City.

00:05:01.000 The only reason why I felt like me speaking out may possibly be important in any way is because I happen to be representing, me and the other guys on the show, we're representing these heroes, these men and women who died that day and who risk their lives daily doing a job that most of us do not have the courage to do.

00:05:19.000 And my moral conscience just wouldn't let me, would not let me remain silent considering the grave importance of this particular issue.

00:05:28.000 Well, I wouldn't call you a small fish, but I would say this.

00:05:31.000 I mean, I'm a nobody, but we're all a somebody at the same time.

00:05:35.000 And it is courage for a school teacher that goes public, or a professor, or a police officer, or a fighter pilot, or somebody with one of the most highly rated TV shows on cable.

00:05:46.000 I mean, you're not a small fish.

00:05:48.000 It does take courage.

00:05:49.000 And you're right that it's getting a little bit safer for people to go public.

00:05:53.000 I just wish that some of the really huge names out there, and some of them have been kind of demonized and set up as of late kind of a hint, so maybe that's why you're not hearing one of them go public, because of the mistakes they've made or whatever.

00:06:06.000 But, you know, the point is, hint, hint, it's not very hard to figure out here, folks.

00:06:10.000 I mean, there's just so much going on.

00:06:14.000 This is do or die.

00:06:15.000 I mean, these globalists, I mean, they may set off a nuke.

00:06:18.000 They could start a new war.

00:06:19.000 They could release bird flu.

00:06:21.000 I mean, you can't put anything past them.

00:06:23.000 Give me your response or your angle on what I just said there.

00:06:27.000 Absolutely.

00:06:28.000 I mean, I really do think that it's crucial, especially before the 2008 elections.

00:06:32.000 I mean, I've heard your predictions and I've heard predictions from other pretty credible experts who are very good at kind of analyzing the The weather patterns, so to speak.

00:06:42.000 You predicted 9-11.

00:06:45.000 Other people are now saying that we're militarizing the area right around the borders of Iran.

00:06:50.000 All of the same indicators are present that were present before 9-11 for some kind of terrible, terrible event.

00:06:59.000 I agree with you that unless we call enough attention to 9-11, Unless we're able to bring this out into a public form of debate, it's very possible that we could see another false flag event, or any excuse that would give Bush and his administration a reason to declare a national state of emergency, would then plunge us into a horrible, horrible time in human history.

00:07:25.000 And I think it's still possible to stop it.

00:07:26.000 I want to believe that.

00:07:27.000 I'm an optimist.

00:07:29.000 I would like to believe so anyway.

00:07:30.000 Now, talking to Christine Ebersole, who's also television movies, has one of the number one shows on Broadway right now, she went public saying it's a total inside job, giving the evidence on her blog, here on the Genesis Network with John Connor and other places, and she got heat from her manager and other people, but really got support from the crowd and people in the street.

00:07:49.000 What response have you gotten from people, you know, A, in the whole Hollywood slash New York Chicago scene, What response have you gotten from just the general public?

00:08:04.000 And then, when you're talking to people, and I would imagine you warn them and make the same points you just made here.

00:08:13.000 Hey, we've got to get the word out now.

00:08:14.000 Hey, do you know about false flag terror?

00:08:16.000 What do your colleagues say when you talk to them?

00:08:19.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.

00:08:20.000 There are a couple of my colleagues, people that I've actually worked with on Rescue Me, who at first were, you know, they...

00:08:27.000 Listen to some of the information.

00:08:29.000 They tried to, you know, their knee-jerk response was to start offering some excuses.

00:08:33.000 Well, couldn't it have been that?

00:08:34.000 And maybe it was this?

00:08:35.000 And wouldn't everybody have had to have been in on it?

00:08:36.000 What are you telling me?

00:08:37.000 The whole government is in on this conspiracy?

00:08:41.000 But after looking at the information a little bit more carefully, soberly kind of comparing the inconsistencies that are being highlighted by very credible experts, To the official story and what we have been told.

00:08:56.000 Now there are a number of them who are starting to, who have come to me privately and are voicing their very deep concerns about 9-11.

00:09:04.000 Some of these people are firefighters who work with us every day on the show.

00:09:08.000 A couple of these people are actors who work with us on the show.

00:09:12.000 But in my personal life, you know, some of the stuff that I've been doing aside from going on Lone Lantern and Resistance Radio and now coming on your show has been just hitting the streets.

00:09:21.000 Just hitting the streets with leaflets, with DVDs, copies of Loose Change, or 9-11 Mysteries, or Terror Storm, and just, you know, passing out the information.

00:09:31.000 Sometimes, you know, here in New York City, it's almost like a lot of times you feel like you're preaching to the choir when you're expressing these kind of views.

00:09:41.000 Not necessarily about 9-11, but you know, it is a very blue state.

00:09:44.000 But moving past the left-right paradigm, I think that a lot of people are are very concerned about 9/11, don't really know, haven't taken the time to actually educate themselves.

00:09:55.000 I haven't gotten into any verbal arguments on the street with people.

00:09:58.000 I haven't been attacked by anybody as I've been passing out the information.

00:10:02.000 Actually most of the responses that I get are, sometimes people just don't take the information and say, "Yeah, I know already," or "Yeah, we're aware of it." You know, it kind of varies.

00:10:12.000 It varies.

00:10:13.000 And then in my personal personal life, like with my friends and family...

00:10:16.000 Stay there.

00:10:17.000 Stay there, Daniel.

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00:15:01.000 It is Friday the 13th, but that's a lucky day for 9-11 Truth. 1.00

00:15:05.000 Daniel Sanjata is our guest, and of course he is the main star, the big star on the FX hit program, Rescue Me.

00:15:14.000 Continuing, talking to your friends, what's the response that you're getting?

00:15:20.000 I've been getting more candid responses from people, you know, that I'm not approaching, let's say, at work, or strangers that I'm approaching on the street, you know, from friends and family.

00:15:28.000 The response has been less self-censored, shall we say.

00:15:33.000 Definitely, you know, most of them are completely on board once I actually point out the inconsistencies with the official story, or at least the ones that I've been able to memorize so far.

00:15:42.000 I mean, there's so many thousands of them.

00:15:46.000 You know, I also wanted to say, Alex, that I think it is actually perfect for people who happen to have a lot of baggage, let's just say, or maybe the way that they've lived their lives.

00:15:55.000 It might be preventing them from actually coming out publicly about 9-11 because they're worried about ad hominem attempts at character assassination.

00:16:02.000 I mean, one of the reasons, for instance, and you pointed this out maybe a week or two ago when Rosie first came out, it's perfect, it's absolutely perfect that she came out.

00:16:11.000 Because they're going to, obviously, their MO is instead of addressing the actual points that she is trying to, that she's addressing, they will attack you on your past, on the fact that you happen to be maybe a celebrity and therefore why should you even open your mouth about anything of consequence.

00:16:29.000 That is actually a perfect entree for us to redirect and to say, well, why is it every time we say something about partially evaporated steel columns at the wreckage of Building 7 or, you know, the law of falling bodies and how can buildings collapse at free-fall speed, why every time we bring up some piece of credible science, why do you say something about the fact that, you know, so-and-so happens to be, you know, leading an alternative lifestyle or, you know, leading an alternative lifestyle or, you know, is gay or lesbian?

00:16:57.000 You know, why do you attack me because of, you know, the fact that I used to, you know, do drugs and run around town with, you know, bunches of women as they've done in various cases with other people who've come out in the past.

00:17:07.000 So, you know, it really just makes them look complicit in an obvious cover-up.

00:17:12.000 It doesn't lend any credibility to their denial.

00:17:15.000 No, you're right.

00:17:15.000 I mean, they can't help it, and it blows up completely in their face.

00:17:20.000 But first off, I'm really honored to find out you're a listener.

00:17:22.000 I didn't do any pre-interview.

00:17:23.000 I've never talked to you before until you came on, Daniel.

00:17:26.000 Alex, I'm a huge fan.

00:17:28.000 I'm a huge fan of yours.

00:17:29.000 Absolutely.

00:17:30.000 Well, that just humbles me because it always shocks me how many people tune into this show to hear me bumble around in my redneck fashion, but thank you so much, my friend.

00:17:39.000 But no, I mean, you're absolutely right that They ignore it when physicists and scientists and underwriting laboratory engineers who underwrote the buildings come out and say it's a fraud and impossible and a hoax, because they have to.

00:17:54.000 But still, they take the bait on celebrities because they can't ignore it.

00:17:58.000 They blow it up.

00:17:59.000 They try to chill free speech, and then that blows up in their face.

00:18:03.000 I mean, just at certain levels, this New World Order is really incompetent.

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:08.000 Yeah, they really are.

00:18:09.000 They really are.

00:18:09.000 And I think it's that they're operating just on, you know, a really, really old paradigm.

00:18:14.000 That's it!

00:18:15.000 That's it!

00:18:15.000 In terms of, you know, in terms of controlling the public mind.

00:18:18.000 These are tactics that used to work, but they're not taking into account the telescoping of evolution and the fact that the human species is now beyond the point of their old methods of control.

00:18:27.000 Wow, you just said that in a great way.

00:18:28.000 I think before they're able to come up with something new to control the public mind, hopefully we're going to be able to crack this thing wide open and make sure that it never happens again.

00:18:36.000 Wow, you just said that in a great way.

00:18:38.000 The evolution of technology alone doubling every two years or even faster, and it's really just gotten away from them.

00:18:47.000 I mean, they've got a lot of geniuses and high-tech people in their technocracy that I know are giving them new ways to control us, but these old elites are still making the decisions.

00:18:55.000 I mean, literally, folks, and I'm not knocking old people.

00:18:57.000 Old people are great.

00:18:58.000 But it's like 85-year-olds, and I mean, Prince Bernhard was running most of this.

00:19:02.000 out of the Netherlands, died a few years ago at 93 and was still calling a lot of shots at Bilderberg.

00:19:07.000 Henry Kissinger every week has been at the White House, it turns out, for six years, literally running things with George Schultz.

00:19:13.000 I mean, Kissinger's almost 90.

00:19:15.000 George Schultz, I think, is over 90.

00:19:17.000 I mean, I'm sorry, folks. 1.00

00:19:19.000 We're going to kick their butt. 1.00

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00:19:23.000 I mean, Alex, how are they marginalizing?

00:19:25.000 How is it that they're able to prevent the opinions of people like Robert Bowman, Ray McGovern, Kevin Ryan, David Shaler, Stephen Jones?

00:19:33.000 How are they able to keep such credible expert opinions completely marginalized?

00:19:38.000 It's something that's hard.

00:19:39.000 I work in the media, and it's hard for me to fathom how they can ignore what these people are saying.

00:19:45.000 I can understand them ignoring me.

00:19:47.000 I can understand them ignoring maybe even Rosie or Charlie or whoever.

00:19:50.000 But when you have people who are obviously in the know, you have retired Air Force pilots, people who train the top guns, who are coming out and saying 9-11 was an inside job, and CNN, BBC, none of the major media news outlets are even giving this, you know, giving it even a moment of attention.

00:20:07.000 How is that possible?

00:20:08.000 You know what, when we get back, I'll try to give you my take on it, and I'll get your take, and we'll also take some calls.

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00:20:20.000 And Daniel Sanjata is our guest.

00:20:22.000 He is the star of the hit TV show on FX, Rescue Me.

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00:23:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:01.000 Wow, this is a really great interview.

00:24:04.000 I enjoyed getting the perspectives and talking to Daniel Sanjata, who again has the hit TV show, One of the stars, one of the most popular stars out there on the hit TV show that's on FX, Rescue Me, where he plays the part of a firefighter.

00:24:23.000 And they're in New York, I guess, producing the TV show.

00:24:25.000 They have a chance to talk to a lot of the firefighters in New York.

00:24:29.000 And I had this experience when I was in New York at several different memorial services over several different anniversaries.

00:24:38.000 And I've been there to cover the RNC as well.

00:24:41.000 And four years ago or so, about half the cops really hated us, and a lot of the firefighters said, yeah, we know something's going on, but we don't know if it's an inside job.

00:24:50.000 Now that's totally flipped, where the majority of the firefighters literally were going, oh, yeah, we know, and telling us all these facts and statistics and numbers.

00:24:59.000 Most of the cops knew my name.

00:25:01.000 Hey, Alex, how you doing?

00:25:03.000 Keep it up.

00:25:03.000 And then they'd turn away and smile at us.

00:25:06.000 I mean, it was amazing.

00:25:07.000 That's why I'm going to go back this sixth anniversary on 9-11.

00:25:10.000 We're just going to have spontaneous demonstrations there on the morning of 9-11.

00:25:14.000 Hope to see you all there, and I'm sure there'll be more events as well as that develops.

00:25:18.000 Daniel, what were we talking about before we went to break?

00:25:20.000 There was some point, and then you got cut off by the break.

00:25:22.000 Yeah, I was just wondering, Alex, I mean, with your intimate knowledge of the way that the media works and the way that they try to manufacture consent-bound debate, etc., etc., how is it possible that they're marginalizing the opinions of such credible experts as, you know, Robert Bauman, Ray McGovern, and the list goes on?

00:25:39.000 I mean, people who actually are in the know and whose opinions should be listened to.

00:25:43.000 Again, I said before we went to the break, I can understand them.

00:25:46.000 Ignoring somebody like me or marginalizing somebody like Rosie O'Donnell or Charlie Sheen, even though they shouldn't, but when it comes to the people who come from the institutions, that people who worked inside the system, who are coming out publicly saying 9-11 was an inside job, how can they ignore those opinions?

00:26:03.000 I just don't understand that.

00:26:04.000 Well, Operation Mockingbird, number one, because Going back to the 50s, we have the CIA documents where they brag about how they already controlled almost all the major newspapers.

00:26:18.000 All you've got to do is have the editor of the New York Times, the editor of the Washington Post, Or the sub-editors at those key papers.

00:26:25.000 You'll have a whole nest of them.

00:26:27.000 Key people inside CNN.

00:26:28.000 I mean, at Fox, it's open.

00:26:30.000 You've got, on the board of directors, Viet Dinh, who wrote the first Patriot Act and contributed to torture memos. 0.89

00:26:39.000 I mean, at Fox, it's just open.

00:26:41.000 You've got Tony Snow with the revolving door as the White House Press Secretary, former Fox contributor.

00:26:46.000 He co-hosts the Rush Limbaugh program.

00:26:50.000 You've got fellow travelers with the elite system on the left and the right who are all controlled by the same private corporate structures.

00:26:57.000 Then you've got CIA.

00:26:59.000 Then you've got thousands of top reporters who've been hired for PR campaigns, and Congress has ruled this illegal, but the president continues.

00:27:07.000 And Clinton was doing it, but it's ballooned under Bush, and I'm sure until the next Democratic president it will get even worse.

00:27:13.000 That's just the process of billions in fake news.

00:27:16.000 And you've got the extreme examples of Tommy Franks getting 500-plus thousand a year after he got out of the military from the Defense Department in a CIA contract to go around talking about how martial law is coming, But, you know, that's what we have to have.

00:27:31.000 I mean, that's chilling, folks.

00:27:31.000 It's too bad.

00:27:33.000 They paid him to go out and say that on all these TV shows.

00:27:36.000 And at the time, I said, that guy's a spook. 1.00

00:27:38.000 I mean, I saw him on the cover of Cigar Aficionado, you know, wearing CIA cufflinks.

00:27:43.000 I mean, it's a big joke to these people.

00:27:45.000 And they think it's all real funny.

00:27:47.000 And then you've got others who just don't even really consciously think about it.

00:27:50.000 Hey, Armstrong Williams, we want you to take $240-something thousand dollars just to go say as a black conservative that you're for Head Start, which is really just a big government program to CPS the kids. 0.70

00:28:05.000 Sounds good, you know, to help the kids, but still it's big government.

00:28:08.000 Why is Bush doing it?

00:28:09.000 Well, it's corporate welfare.

00:28:11.000 It's control.

00:28:12.000 But the point is, that's the lighter end of it.

00:28:15.000 I mean, $1.8 billion just in fake news for the prescription drug program.

00:28:21.000 I added up, just propaganda, in the first four years of his administration, the contracts we can find.

00:28:26.000 Almost $25 billion in fake news.

00:28:29.000 Brother, that's how they're doing it.

00:28:30.000 But when a star comes out, they know that they can't contain that, even in the alternative media or in some of the B-tier and C-tier tabloids.

00:28:40.000 So they go ahead and try to use that as kind of a cultural zeitgeist to demonize it, because they know there's a subconscious envy and general hatred in the public, a love-hate relationship of anyone who's celebrity.

00:28:53.000 And so they try to act.

00:28:54.000 You know, it's kind of like the thing with Imus.

00:28:55.000 I hate Imus.

00:28:56.000 I don't like Imus. 0.85

00:28:57.000 He certainly should have probably had some repercussions.

00:28:59.000 I don't know of this much.

00:28:59.000 But, again, everybody kind of likes it because, oh, he's rich.

00:29:02.000 Let's get him.

00:29:03.000 So, I mean, it's hard to even describe how this whole thing, you know, is this big cauldron that kind of mixes together.

00:29:10.000 But, basically, it's being steered by and then, of course, the big corporate chiefs.

00:29:16.000 A lot of them may have an editor under him who's CIA.

00:29:19.000 They're not CIA, they're members of the CFR, where they all just get on the same... because they have so many intersecting agendas in their empires that they have to get together and basically try to steer everything.

00:29:31.000 I mean, that's kind of a nutshell.

00:29:33.000 Give me your take. 0.90

00:29:34.000 You know, to be honest, the reason why I asked you, Alex, is because I really am having a hard time understanding, and it's hard for me to conceive how, you know, without the inside knowledge that you have, as I said, of the way that the inner workings of the media operation mockingbird and the like it's just hard for me to conceive of how people whose whose whose uh... opinions are so informed uh... people who actually served at work in the system

00:30:00.000 if you have these people with that kind of a pedigree who are at least raising questions at the very least the raising questions and in the most extreme cases they're actually pointing fingers um...

00:30:10.000 you know if it's free if the american free press needs to be absolutely ashamed of themselves The fact that they can just ignore these things, or if they do address them, address them in such an obviously biased and twisted way, really just, this is, to me, this is an eye-opener, because I really, I was aware of the manufacturer of consent, borrowing a title from Noam Chomsky.

00:30:31.000 I know you're not a big fan of his, and I'm starting to have serious questions about him myself now.

00:30:35.000 Well no, I mean I read two of his books, I watched one of his videos, I read a lot of his papers.

00:30:41.000 I mean if somebody tells me 95% truth but then gives me False solutions?

00:30:49.000 You know, the UN is going to save us.

00:30:51.000 Well, I'm sure there are good people at the UN who mean well at the mid-level and the low-level.

00:30:55.000 It's like the Red Cross.

00:30:56.000 I'm not against the Red Cross itself.

00:30:59.000 There are good people in it.

00:31:00.000 The leadership is corrupt and knowingly collected blood with AIDS and hepatitis in it and knowingly sold it for blood products, you know, and knowingly steals a lot of the money for themselves.

00:31:11.000 Noam Chomsky puts out a lot of good info.

00:31:14.000 It's just that when it comes to 9-11, I've got a clip of him.

00:31:17.000 He said, so what?

00:31:18.000 Even if it's true, so what?

00:31:20.000 Well, what is he talking about?

00:31:21.000 I saw that.

00:31:22.000 That was a jaw-dropper. 0.96

00:31:23.000 I couldn't believe he said that.

00:31:25.000 Because, I mean, I had read a number of his books.

00:31:28.000 I had seen his most famous documentary, Manufacturing Consent, and some others.

00:31:33.000 And once I started doing my own 9-11 research, immediately I was like, oh, I wonder what Noam Chomsky has to say about this.

00:31:38.000 He's probably going to have something scintillating, something penetrating to say about it.

00:31:42.000 And to hear him say that it doesn't matter.

00:31:44.000 I mean, I was like, what?

00:31:46.000 Does he really mean that?

00:31:48.000 Who does this guy work for?

00:31:50.000 Whose book am I reading?

00:31:52.000 He knows 9-11 truth threatens the entire structure.

00:31:56.000 And you see the left, a lot of these guys are elitist, but they delude themselves so they can sleep with themselves at night so they can get rest, so they don't feel guilty.

00:32:05.000 Well, yeah, there is always an elite, but we need a loving, guided, you know, kind of Plato elite that understands, and then they just argue over who's going to run the power levers, you see.

00:32:21.000 Well, you know, I think that's one of the reasons why it's really important that we have people like you doing the work you're doing, other people that you often mention on your show, Gary Franchi at Lone Lantern, Mark Dice with his Resistance Radio, Aaron Russo coming out and making these very important films.

00:32:36.000 I mean, it really is important that people, as you've said a number of times, stop waiting for orders from headquarters and just join this leaderless resistance of spreading the truth.

00:32:47.000 I mean, 9-11 is a watershed issue for so many reasons, not the least of which is the larger issues towards which it points, and it's a perfect You know, they really left themselves overexposed here.

00:32:59.000 They really, really did with this particular thing.

00:33:01.000 I think their hubris got the best of them, and we now, you know, it's that proverbial soft spot on the belly of the dragon.

00:33:07.000 We have to take this opportunity to reveal this horrific truth so that we can then go forward and dismantle all these other horrific truths of which this is but the most obvious precursor.

00:33:18.000 I totally agree, but there's also a converse, or the reverse of that, or I guess the mirror image of that.

00:33:23.000 Not only use 9-11 to break up on all the other truths, but if you go, okay, did the government let black men die of, and the evidence shows gave them syphilis when they didn't have enough test subjects, and then allowed them to spread it to literally hundreds of thousands with the Tuskegee experiment over 45 years in Tuskegee, Alabama, and surrounding states. 0.77

00:33:42.000 Did the government radiate tens of thousands of American children in nuclear testing?

00:33:47.000 Did they know Agent Orange would do this and they still used it? 0.70

00:33:51.000 Did they, in Operation Gladio, and Gulf of Tonkin, and with the USS Liberty, and Ajax, and Iran.

00:34:00.000 Did our government stage attacks or claim attacks that didn't happen?

00:34:03.000 You see, there's so many admissions in history where this has already gone on.

00:34:08.000 That's what I do with my film Terror Storm.

00:34:10.000 I don't know if you've seen that film, but we start out, Daniel, showing, for those that haven't seen it, showing the admitted examples.

00:34:18.000 What did you think of Terror Storm?

00:34:19.000 I thought it was fantastic.

00:34:21.000 I mean, you know, and one of the reasons why it's so important is that it gives you, it shows the precedent setting either events or plans that have been made but were not actually carried out, as in the case with Operation Northwood.

00:34:34.000 It just speaks to, you know, the types of minds that we are dealing with, the kind of things that they will either do or that they will entertain doing in order to advance an agenda.

00:34:43.000 And it does not stop short of murdering civilians.

00:34:46.000 It does not stop short of attacking soft targets.

00:34:49.000 You know, as you say, firefighters carrying dead children in their arms, as in the case of the Oklahoma City bombing, is something that does get the public really, really upset and willing to do almost anything to protect what they perceive to be security.

00:35:03.000 So you've looked at Oklahoma.

00:35:05.000 What's your view on that?

00:35:06.000 Um, you know, I don't want to... I actually have not done even a tenth of the research on the Oklahoma City bombing as I have done on 9-11, so I'm afraid I can't really speak with any real, you know, with a very informed opinion on that.

00:35:19.000 But you've got questions.

00:35:21.000 Oh, serious questions.

00:35:23.000 Serious questions.

00:35:23.000 I mean, starting with the...

00:35:25.000 Following the pattern that I, uh, the path that I took with 9-11, I started in the Oklahoma City bombing, uh, my research regarding that with, um, just the physical inconsistencies, the physical evidence.

00:35:38.000 You know, how does a truck filled with fertilizer, uh, you know, create the kind of damage that you saw there in the wreckage of the Oklahoma City bombing?

00:35:46.000 Uh, what about, uh, I don't remember the woman, her name, but you mentioned that there was a woman who worked in the building who saw these guys dressed up in, you know, uh, I don't know, hazmat suits or something with sticks of grey butter?

00:35:56.000 Yeah, Jane Graham. 0.97

00:35:59.000 You know, again, I haven't done a lot of research into that, but it sounds just as suspicious in many of the very same ways.

00:36:05.000 You can see the same fingerprints all over that job as we find all over the 9-11.

00:36:09.000 Well, I mean, the point I made yesterday is really elementary, but it needs to be made again.

00:36:14.000 I mean, a lot of us don't consciously think about the different mindset of the military leadership, and that's definitely the type of MO, the type of individuals we're talking about.

00:36:23.000 I mean, they'll send 10-20,000 troops into a battle, into a position that's untenable or undefended, just to suck in the enemy to attack them.

00:36:34.000 I mean, that's just a 101.

00:36:36.000 No guilt goes into it.

00:36:38.000 No thought goes into it.

00:36:40.000 No remorse goes into it.

00:36:41.000 It's a no-brainer.

00:36:42.000 It's military tactics.

00:36:44.000 It's what you do in big battle settings.

00:36:47.000 And so, for that same mindset, those same individuals, Is it any stretch to think that they would kill 3,000 Americans and others who were there, but the majority were Americans, on 9-11 at the Pentagon and in New York City at the Towers, to get their whole New World Order agenda basically cemented and get that foundation in place?

00:37:07.000 And then you've got the answer right there.

00:37:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:11.000 Wow.

00:37:13.000 It really is, even at this point for me, such a hard pill to swallow.

00:37:17.000 But, you know, no matter how much my, uh, there's a certain part of me that reacts against this daunting knowledge.

00:37:24.000 I cannot ignore.

00:37:26.000 Well, that's number one, because your subconscious, and the same with me, I'm not saying you're afraid, but your subconscious senses the danger, and you, like, pull back from the flame.

00:37:33.000 The only way to defeat this flame is to grab it and smother it, and it's going to hurt at first, but we're going to be consumed by it if we don't, so we've got to just grapple with it.

00:37:41.000 And then secondarily, you wouldn't behave like that.

00:37:43.000 That isn't in your code.

00:37:45.000 That isn't in your heart and soul.

00:37:47.000 And so it's just so alien. 0.99

00:37:48.000 But I mean, it's alien to think that Ted Bundy would convince young women to get in the car with him so he could go tie them down and bite chunks out of them for five hours before he raped them and killed them. 0.99

00:37:58.000 Exactly, exactly. 0.77

00:37:59.000 You know, it's really hard to believe that there are people out there in the world like that, and you don't want to believe that they have their hands on the reins of power of your country.

00:38:06.000 But that is the horrible reality to which we are waking up.

00:38:09.000 But for them it isn't, you know, the enjoyment of, I guess, biting the chunks out.

00:38:13.000 I mean, certainly some of them have that same mindset.

00:38:15.000 It's just cold-blooded.

00:38:17.000 You know, we always sacrifice people.

00:38:18.000 There's too many of them anyways, you know.

00:38:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:22.000 According to some people.

00:38:23.000 Well, that's their whole religion. 1.00

00:38:25.000 I mean, when you study Prince Bernhard and Philip and all this scum. 0.99

00:38:28.000 Let's take a quick call here. 0.97

00:38:29.000 Let's talk to George.

00:38:31.000 George, where are you calling us from today?

00:38:33.000 I'm from Indiana.

00:38:34.000 Welcome.

00:38:35.000 You're on the air with our guest.

00:38:37.000 Go ahead.

00:38:38.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:38:39.000 Three things on 9-11 I was wondering, or two things on 9-11 and then a comment.

00:38:44.000 Did they ever have any more information on the stolen 9-11 steal?

00:38:50.000 Well, I mean, they cut it all up, put GPS trackers on it, wouldn't let the people stop to even have lunch when they took it to the ships, and most of it was taken to China, some to South Korea.

00:39:02.000 But now they found some in warehouses the government kept for some reason, and we've been able to get samples from those, and that shows that the explosive compounds in there are thermate.

00:39:11.000 Do you want to comment on that, Daniel?

00:39:14.000 I don't know much about it.

00:39:16.000 Actually, it's new information to me.

00:39:18.000 The fact that they've actually found samples that were kept certainly fits the MO of criminals.

00:39:22.000 You know, they just can't help themselves.

00:39:23.000 They have to keep some trinket of their, you know... Trophy.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, some kind of trophy from the murder.

00:39:31.000 Yeah, you know, Alex, have those samples that have been found actually, have we been, for example, has Professor Stephen Jones been given access to those samples?

00:39:39.000 Well, let me be clear.

00:39:41.000 Yeah, there were several sites.

00:39:42.000 There's over 20 of them in the country.

00:39:44.000 One, I'll just tell you, is in Michigan.

00:39:46.000 Another's in New Jersey.

00:39:48.000 Another's in New York.

00:39:48.000 He's gotten lots of other samples, and some of them We've been able to get from inside sources, and we've seen the video tape that they shot of a couple of warehouses in New York that does still have some of the steel.

00:40:00.000 And I really can't get into how we're getting this.

00:40:03.000 I mean, I've just been told this by good sources.

00:40:06.000 Sure, sure, sure, sure.

00:40:08.000 Another thing, I know doing an autopsy now might be difficult to see if there was thermite or thermate left in a body, but they could resume a dog and do an autopsy on that dog and see if there's but they could resume a dog and do an autopsy on that dog and see if there's thermite in the lung of I mean, you wouldn't need a court order for that.

00:40:30.000 There were femur bones blown 100, 200 yards plus.

00:40:36.000 They found thousands of body parts.

00:40:37.000 They just found more last week, the week before that.

00:40:39.000 I mean, bones were being blasted out of bodies.

00:40:42.000 These explosions were so big.

00:40:43.000 Again, if a building collapses, number one, it wouldn't fly out hundreds of yards.

00:40:47.000 Number two, it wouldn't all be burned to a crisp.

00:40:51.000 And so all there was was little bitty body parts, a few pieces that got Excuse me, even talking about this for family members that listen, you know, blown across the street.

00:40:59.000 I mean, it's just like Oklahoma City.

00:41:00.000 You got a truck bomb that supposedly blows into the building, but the building blows out and blows chunks of it the opposite direction of the truck bomb's main blast on top of buildings across the street.

00:41:10.000 I mean, it's just, it's just, it's so sloppy how they do this, but again, they count on us Just buying into all of it.

00:41:17.000 Thanks for the call.

00:41:18.000 Rory, you're up next, and we can keep our guests another five minutes into the next segment.

00:41:22.000 We'll take a few more calls, then let him go.

00:41:24.000 I've got to get him up again in the near future.

00:41:26.000 I know he's a very busy individual, and Daniel Sanjata is his name.

00:41:31.000 You can check out his TV program right there on the FX Channel on cable.

00:41:37.000 It's called Rescue Me.

00:41:38.000 We'll be right back.

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00:44:49.000 Well, hopefully next time I'm up in New York, hopefully next time I'm up in New York, I'll get a chance to meet Daniel Sanjata in person. York, I'll Just, you can tell what a personable and intelligent fella he is.

00:45:15.000 And why he's got all the girls swooning over him.

00:45:18.000 One of the People Magazine, one of the best-looking people in America.

00:45:21.000 I just thought I'd throw that out there.

00:45:22.000 Talk about total pop, ladies and gentlemen. 0.86

00:45:25.000 But you can... Daniel, before we take a few final calls, how do folks tune into your television show?

00:45:30.000 Our show, again, I just want to say, and I know you know this, Alex, I didn't really come on the show to necessarily plug Rescue Me.

00:45:36.000 But why not?

00:45:37.000 Well, I mean, it's... The show, when we come back on the air, I believe it's Tuesday nights at 9 or 10, and sometimes, you know, listings change, so I would, I guess, tell your viewers to, I guess, check their local listings or what have you.

00:45:50.000 But, you know, I think that it has, in terms of most of what's on television, I think that there's an inherent social relevance to Rescue Me's premise, and I would love to see them address this directly, although, you know, as FX is a subsidiary of Fox, I don't know if that will happen necessarily.

00:46:08.000 And you're Rocco on the show, for those who don't know.

00:46:11.000 Yeah, Franco, Franco.

00:46:12.000 Franco, I was going for memory.

00:46:13.000 Franco Rocco, it's okay.

00:46:15.000 Yeah, I don't watch a lot of TV myself.

00:46:17.000 But yeah, that's when our show comes on, and I just hope that the fact that we're representing these guys on television will lend some, maybe draw somebody's attention.

00:46:28.000 And if they hear me say something about 9-11 being an inside job, I really hope they'll do their own research, that they'll go to InfoWars.com, that they'll pick up a copy of Terror Storm, or 9-11 Mysteries, or any of the great documentaries that have been made exposing the inside job that 9-11 obviously was.

00:46:43.000 Well, fantastic.

00:46:44.000 I totally agree with you.

00:46:45.000 One last question.

00:46:46.000 I should ask this before.

00:46:48.000 When did you wake up to 9-11?

00:46:50.000 You know, it didn't happen immediately.

00:46:51.000 You know, my best friend, Joey, he actually, on the day, was like, that looked like an inside... He didn't say it looked like an inside job, but he said, these buildings look like those things were brought down by controlled demolition.

00:47:02.000 He said it from the very beginning, and I was like, no.

00:47:04.000 I mean, I kind of thought that it was just... I had known... I knew at that point about America's horrific history in terms of our foreign, military, and economic policy, and I kind of looked at it Uh, as chickens coming home to roost in a certain sense.

00:47:16.000 Uh, even the targets made sense from that perspective.

00:47:19.000 But over time, you know, I would hear a little bit of this, I'd hear a little bit of that.

00:47:24.000 And I started, you know, the concern started welling up within me.

00:47:27.000 And I don't remember the exact moment, but it was something about Charlie Sheen having come out publicly.

00:47:34.000 And then, you know, it's kind of a confluence of circumstances and coincidences.

00:47:38.000 I also remember you appearing in one of my favorite films by Richard Linklater, Waking Life.

00:47:43.000 I didn't even know who you were when I saw the film, but in hindsight, when I was putting all these pieces together, I was like, oh, that was Alex Jones.

00:47:52.000 And then I, you know, listened to the radio that you conducted with Charlie, and it kind of took off from there for me.

00:47:56.000 I started then doing my own research.

00:48:00.000 Well, what you're telling us dovetails and fits perfectly with the paradigm I've seen.

00:48:06.000 It was the time Charlie came along, it was 9-11 Truth had already grown to, and people really resonated with his courage because of his baggage and other things.

00:48:15.000 Knowing that he had a lot to lose doing this, and it really did trigger a chain reaction And then it was his idea to have the conference.

00:48:23.000 That got put on C-SPAN four times, built up a big audience by the fourth showing.

00:48:27.000 All the other things that happened.

00:48:29.000 And that's now caused Rosie and Ebersole and so many others to go public.

00:48:34.000 And me.

00:48:35.000 And Brolin and yourself.

00:48:37.000 And then now all these pilots and all these CIA people and all these other folks.

00:48:42.000 There is a mass exodus out of a lie into the truth.

00:48:45.000 And again, sir, I think you're actually early on in the avalanche that we're going to be seeing.

00:48:51.000 It looks like an avalanche now, but I assure you, if things continue, it's going to be even bigger.

00:48:56.000 So, Daniel, I really want to thank you for coming on with us, and I look forward to talking to you again in the near future.

00:49:01.000 Absolutely.

00:49:02.000 Thank you for having me, Alex, and God bless you for all the work you're doing.

00:49:04.000 Be well.

00:49:05.000 God bless you.

00:49:06.000 I'm going to put you on hold here and give you a phone number here in a second for William Rodriguez, because he would like to talk to you.

00:49:11.000 Again, thank you, Daniel.

00:49:13.000 Daniel Sanjato spent an hour with us.

00:49:15.000 We appreciate it.

00:49:16.000 All right, I promise I'll get your calls out of the way.

00:49:18.000 Been holding a while.

00:49:19.000 We start the next hour, then I'll cover tons of news.

Alex Jones Show - April 14, 2007

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