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00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 I tell ya, with the kick-starting of the whole Charlie Sheen 9-11 controversy and on the heels of that, The international explosion as Rosie O'Donnell went public with her questions about 9-11 being an inside job.

00:00:41.000 A lot of other news has been coming out surrounding this.

00:00:44.000 There's been a big hoax out of the Russian newspaper Pravda.

00:00:49.000 Now, growing up we were all taught that Pravda put out a lot of disinformation.

00:00:54.000 And sometimes they put out real info, but sometimes it's total disinfo.

00:00:58.000 A lot of research has been done over the weekend.

00:01:00.000 We've known about it for two days.

00:01:02.000 It's been up for just about three days on Pravda's website saying that Don Imus was going to go public on 9-11 and so that's why he was burned.

00:01:12.000 Now as soon as I heard that on Saturday and as soon as I went and read the article, my gut level was it was a fraud, number one, because it was Pravda. 0.98

00:01:25.000 Number two, Don Imus The last time I saw him a few months ago was saying, just basically kill all the Arabs and nuke them, bomb them, hail Israel, and hail the New World Order.

00:01:37.000 So I really didn't see him going public on 9-11, so that didn't fit.

00:01:45.000 And then 9-11 blogger and others, a whole horde of investigators descended on the supposed audio files of his show when he supposedly said it, and they're reporting, and they're good at ferreting things out, group team effort, that it is indeed a hoax, which is not surprising.

00:02:03.000 Drudge has fallen for the hoax, but it is being carried by a major paper, so did he fall for a hoax?

00:02:09.000 In a way, he did.

00:02:12.000 Because we didn't fall for it, but you know, we've fallen for a couple of hoaxes.

00:02:15.000 We normally find out about it in a few hours, though.

00:02:17.000 Drudge has had this up since yesterday.

00:02:19.000 So, we will go over that article out of Paravda.

00:02:26.000 Interesting to analyze the anatomy of a hoax.

00:02:32.000 And then, we'll get into the new Rosie O'Donnell developments. 0.98

00:02:37.000 I was told, well, I've got to take my time on this and be careful about what I say.

00:02:42.000 But we can tell you she has obviously been under massive pressure from ABC to shut up.

00:02:51.000 There is a, quote, neocon producer managing things and trying to rule over with an iron fist, so all the neocons calling for censorship have been having a victory.

00:03:04.000 And Hot Air, the Michelle Malkin Pentagon operation, I had a huge celebration yesterday saying, good, she's agreeing to shut up. 1.00

00:03:16.000 We celebrate this in America now.

00:03:18.000 Oh, good, she's being stifled.

00:03:20.000 Oh, we'll sleep better at night.

00:03:21.000 Oh, our Pentagon Office is working well.

00:03:24.000 This is from a person who writes books in defense of camps and says everybody needs to be put in concentration camps.

00:03:32.000 She just fits in nicely with John Yoo, who writes memos up saying they can torture children.

00:03:37.000 Or Alberto Gonzales saying Bush is the king.

00:03:40.000 Literally, it says that.

00:03:42.000 And then a top Princeton law expert, Marine Corps colonel, and a conservative gives a speech saying the President is not above the Congress and the people.

00:03:52.000 Uh, and he's on a no-fly list.

00:03:53.000 I mean, that's who we're dealing with here.

00:03:56.000 Do you understand that, ladies and gentlemen?

00:03:58.000 America is the Bill of Rights and Constitution, the Spirit of Liberty, the Declaration of Independence.

00:04:02.000 If we don't have that, we're just more dirt.

00:04:05.000 And it is despicable, and I've had enough of Michelle Malkin, and Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh, and Neil Bortz, and all of this un-American filth, wrapping themselves in the flag, and in the dead troops' names, and the dead firemen's names, and the dead policemen's names, when their bosses blew those buildings to kingdom come!

00:04:26.000 And you call for camps, and my arrest, and Fetcher's arrest, and Mark Cuban's arrest, and Charlie Sheen's He needs to be run out and he better watch it. 0.99

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00:04:45.000 We actually love this country.

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00:04:47.000 Alright, we're going to come back and get into all of it.

00:04:50.000 The Pravda hoax.

00:04:53.000 Rosie O'Donnell, is she really being cowed?

00:04:55.000 We told you there would be news on Monday.

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00:08:07.000 For those of you just joining us, I've had to basically...

00:08:30.000 gag myself, you know, to tie myself up for the last two weeks knowing what's going on behind the scenes with Rosie O'Donnell.

00:08:40.000 And I still don't want to talk about too much and endanger her position at The View and give any fodder to those that want to have her removed, but we will be walking through that.

00:08:55.000 There is a story up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:09:00.000 Rosie prepares to strike back for 9-1-1 truth. 1.00

00:09:05.000 Insider scoop.

00:09:06.000 Ground Zero heroes impacted by toxic dust cover up to appear on The View Tuesday.

00:09:14.000 Now I learned this over the weekend.

00:09:16.000 And that's what she was trying to schedule, either today or tomorrow.

00:09:19.000 So if they were there live today, it'll be on tomorrow.

00:09:23.000 If it's done on Tuesday, it'll be on Wednesday.

00:09:25.000 And that's if she's able to do it.

00:09:27.000 But that's what she's shooting for, and I have... I mean, I have Rosie O'Donnell's email, I have her comments, I have very incendiary things she's said about Tom DeLay.

00:09:39.000 We can't get into that because we don't want to endanger Rosie O'Donnell.

00:09:43.000 I've also talked to Two people deep inside her camp, good friends of hers.

00:09:49.000 One friend who just went on vacation with her last week to Florida, to Miami.

00:09:57.000 And we also, of course, have a prominent 9-11 truther.

00:10:01.000 An extremely prominent 9-11 truther who has been advising her and talking with her since before she went public.

00:10:09.000 And I know this person very, very well.

00:10:12.000 You know him very, very well.

00:10:15.000 I'm not going to say who it is until later.

00:10:20.000 I don't know, maybe you can make a guess.

00:10:22.000 But we will have that individual on very soon, don't worry.

00:10:27.000 And he will be able to tell you, hopefully, fully what's going on.

00:10:30.000 but I will walk through it now I think I should just go ahead and get into the rosy thing now all right Or perhaps I should get into the Pravda story first.

00:10:59.000 The big hoax that so many people have bitten into and taken hold of.

00:11:08.000 Now, for those that haven't heard about it, the report is that Don Imush was going to go public on 9-11 truth.

00:11:27.000 And that because he was going to go public on 9-11 Truth and had threatened them to go public on 9-11 Truth, that they basically took a statement, the type of statement, that he routinely made and blew it way out of proportion.

00:11:45.000 I'm not going to debate the whole Don Imus firing here.

00:11:47.000 That's all anybody's talking about.

00:11:49.000 They're trying to stage World War III with Iran right now. 1.00

00:11:53.000 The globalists are plunging the dollar as we speak.

00:11:55.000 I'm freaking out financially.

00:11:58.000 I mean, just watching my meager savings evaporate into nothing, into dust, and the general public out there in America has no idea even what that means to have a currency devaluation.

00:12:08.000 You're going to find out, America, by the way.

00:12:12.000 All these serious things are happening.

00:12:14.000 More and more evidence of exactly what's killing the honeybees is coming out.

00:12:18.000 More and more evidence that GMO pollen is what's causing massive record allergy Spikes across the nation. 0.65

00:12:27.000 I've got all this incredibly important news.

00:12:29.000 They're trying to force live cancer virus inoculations on our girls. 1.00

00:12:33.000 Now they want to give it to our boys.

00:12:36.000 I've got wall-to-wall news about bombings in the Green Zone and the occupation.

00:12:42.000 It could fall, things are getting so bad.

00:12:45.000 The Guard is now about to be called up to 100% It's an orgy of important news, but I think we'll just get into 9-11 first here today. 0.55

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00:13:03.000 Paul's doing a little blurb about this hoax.

00:13:03.000 800-259-9231.

00:13:05.000 259-9231, 800-259-9231.

00:13:09.000 Paul's doing a little blurb about this hoax.

00:13:14.000 No one seems to really report it on the fact that it's a hoax, other than a few little 9-11 sites that are doing a great job.

00:13:19.000 They've done some research.

00:13:23.000 In a clear sign, but let's go ahead first and get into this Pravda article, because it's important.

00:13:32.000 American radio icon Don Imus disgraced, fired after threat to reveal 9-11 secrets.

00:13:41.000 In a clear sign of its intent to rein in dissident American media personalities and their growing influence in American culture, U.S.

00:13:50.000 war leaders this past week launched an unprecedented attack upon one of their most politically connected and legendary radio hosts named Don Imus after his threats to release information relating to the September 11, 2001 attacks upon that country.

00:14:07.000 According to European reports of the events surrounding Don Imus that have gripped the United States this past week.

00:14:15.000 And when they say according to European reports, they give no link to that.

00:14:18.000 That's a good sign of a hoax right there.

00:14:20.000 It was during an interview with another American media personality, Tim Russert, who is the host of a television program frequently used by U.S. 0.92

00:14:28.000 war leaders, wherein, while decrying the state of care being given to American war wounded, stated, so those bastards want to keep the boys, in reference to U.S. 0.88

00:14:36.000 soldiers, secret with their medical treatment. 0.75

00:14:41.000 Let's see how they like it if I start talking about their, in reference to U.S. war leaders, secrets starting with 9-11.

00:14:49.000 Well, they went through and listened to all the Tim Russert video cast of it and podcast of it.

00:14:54.000 There's only a couple with Imus, and it's just not true.

00:14:58.000 Then they went in and listened to all of his radio interviews, a whole bunch of them.

00:15:03.000 A pack of 9-11 researchers literally descended on it, and it's just not there.

00:15:08.000 Of course, again, it's Pravda.

00:15:10.000 It's the joke from the 60s and 70s and 80s of, oh, where'd you read that?

00:15:15.000 In Pravda?

00:15:17.000 Now, they've shaked up a lot in the last 10 years.

00:15:19.000 I mean, I've read a lot of stuff in there that's true.

00:15:21.000 But I'm always, every few months, there's some total piece of not even yellow journalism.

00:15:27.000 I mean, this is just completely pulled out of their Well, it's completely just pulled out of a hat.

00:15:34.000 Okay, I'll say it that way.

00:15:36.000 I mean, this is amazing.

00:15:39.000 Unable to attack such a powerful media figure as Don Imus directly, the U.S.

00:15:45.000 war leaders, and as we have seen many times before, reported And resorted to a massive media attack against him using a racial slur against a woman's basketball team, but which has been pointed out by other media outlets was not by any means a rare occurrence for the legendary radio icon to make.

00:16:05.000 But, to the U.S.

00:16:06.000 war leaders, Don Imus represented the most serious threat to date of the growing assault against them by American media personalities threatening to expose the truths behind the events of September 11, 2001, and the Iraq-Afghanistan wars, and to such an extent that another American media personality, Rosie O'Donnell, has expressed concerns that the U.S.

00:16:25.000 military leaders could actually imprison Mr. Imus.

00:16:32.000 Well, what she said was, is the thought police are coming, and that she doesn't like what he said, but she supports his free speech.

00:16:37.000 And she's always had that free speech position. 0.96

00:16:39.000 She's been talking about 1984, she's been talking about Big Brother and Winston Smith.

00:16:44.000 I mean, she's really had her paradigm shifted.

00:16:46.000 We'll get into that a little bit later.

00:16:50.000 For our past research of the tactics used against those threatening America's war leaders, the likelihood of imprisonment for Don Imus would only occur should he persist in his threats to undermine their authority, and which appears at this time unlikely after the public disgrace he has had to endure.

00:17:06.000 It is expected also that U.S. 0.83

00:17:07.000 war leaders' actions against Don Imus will have a further chilling effect upon other American media personalities questioning their authority, such as the popular U.S.

00:17:16.000 movie actor Charlie Sheen, And it was one of the first to question the events of September 11th.

00:17:23.000 And then it just goes on.

00:17:28.000 So they mix in a lot of truth with what I can only call complete and total lies.

00:17:36.000 And this was put together by a Sorka Fall, as reported to the Western subscribers.

00:17:48.000 And it just goes on and on.

00:17:49.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:17:51.000 It's up on InfoWars.com.

00:17:53.000 It's up on JonesReport.com.

00:17:55.000 It's up on InfoWars.net if you want to go read the hoax.

00:17:59.000 And there'll be, again, an article coming out in the next 20 minutes or so up on PrisonPlanet.com dealing with this hoax.

00:18:06.000 And I'm sure Paul will make the same points, but the three key points are it's probed Number two, they don't give a link to what European sources said that Imus was saying this or doing this.

00:18:20.000 When we've done exhaustive searches off and on for two plus days, this came out on Friday by the way, we've been doing exhaustive research and there is no European press saying this, there is no European press doing this, and it's just completely made up.

00:18:40.000 And then of course thirdly, Don Imus was a neocon warmonger Uh, who had been, you know, lots of parking lot, glass parking lot comments about the Middle East and Central Asia and lots of just kill all the Palestinian, uh, comments.

00:18:55.000 So, and then they tried to claim that he was going to meet with that New Jersey governor.

00:19:00.000 I haven't been able to find proof of that and then on his way to meeting the New Jersey governor got run over in about a hit and run out of millions of people in that, uh, city and that That was a message, I mean, give me a break.

00:19:18.000 And it just spins out of control.

00:19:20.000 And now, guaranteed, I'll get an email in a week or a month, or it'll be in some of the message boards right now, I saw it.

00:19:26.000 Hey, look at these kooks. 1.00

00:19:28.000 Oh yeah, and I bet Charlie, she never really said it either.

00:19:31.000 Or I bet, you know, they're gonna get him, it's just, they mix in all this bull with real stuff that's going on, and it just discredits the whole.

00:19:44.000 Their favorite tactic.

00:19:47.000 And for months I'll have people calling in and emailing me, did you hear about Don Imus?

00:19:51.000 He was going to go public on 9-11.

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00:25:16.000 They are very easy to use and I just love my iPods.

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00:25:43.000 Well, I wouldn't call them delicate.

00:25:44.000 I guess you do beat them up and use them and drop them and but My point is now this is not a computer show and I'm not even a tech savvy person.

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00:26:17.000 When I get back from the break, I will detail it.

00:26:19.000 And I guess reading over this article, I was thinking this morning, there's a little bit more I can reveal as well that's not just in this article, that we can have it added to the article.

00:26:27.000 And it's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:26:29.000 It is a very important story.

00:26:31.000 Rosie has been silent on 9-11 for about two and a half weeks.

00:26:35.000 National Firestorms still have all the big national talk show hosts, neocons, beating the drum from CNN to Fox.

00:26:42.000 To Bill O'Reilly on radio that she should be fired.

00:26:46.000 Everybody should be arrested basically.

00:26:48.000 And we can now reveal what Rosie is at least telling her confidants in email and in person and what she's relaying to friends and family that she is planning to do.

00:26:59.000 I mean, I have this confirmed in triplicate.

00:27:01.000 Rosie prepares to strike back for 9-11 truth. 0.98

00:27:06.000 That is the headline on InfoWars.com and PrisonPundit.com right now.

00:27:10.000 Rosie prepares to strike back for 9-11 Truth. 0.98

00:27:12.000 Insider scoop.

00:27:14.000 Ground Zero heroes impacted by toxic dust cover up to appear on The View Tuesday.

00:27:25.000 That's what I was told over the weekend.

00:27:29.000 That directly from Rosie O'Donnell.

00:27:31.000 But we'll see if that indeed happens.

00:27:33.000 That is directly from Rosie O'Donnell.

00:27:35.000 I have it in writing.

00:27:39.000 It continues.

00:27:39.000 Contradicting reports that Rosie O'Donnell is set to cease her vocal stance against the Bush administration and the 9-11 cover-up, we can exclusively reveal that Rosie is preparing to strike back by featuring interviews of 9-11 heroes and first responders themselves, victims of a government cover-up that allowed them to breathe deadly toxic dust at ground zero.

00:28:04.000 A headline on the Drudge Report today reads, Rosie No More Impeach Bush Talk On The View Over.

00:28:12.000 And it's a big Drudge headline, along with the other hoax that he's got up there, that Donna got fired over 9-11, which suggests O'Donnell is backing down from her controversial comments that led top neocon free speech haters to call for her dismissal.

00:28:28.000 The story links to Rosie's blog, in which she, quote, promises to Talk about other things, and she just has a rambling face. 0.60

00:28:37.000 She goes, well, I'll be talking about other things this week than what I was, and I'll just be screaming inside.

00:28:43.000 And I guess that does, you could interpret that, that she's going to be backing off.

00:28:47.000 We know now that other things include the government's criminal cover-up of the Ground Zero toxic dust scandal that is now killing 9-11 heroes in large numbers.

00:28:57.000 And we should add, she's got to get it passed A neocon producer who is a gatekeeper. 0.82

00:29:03.000 So, again, that's key.

00:29:05.000 She has gone through pressure.

00:29:06.000 Rosie has been pressured.

00:29:09.000 There is a neocon gatekeeper and she did reveal to us that there has been a lot of freaking out at the show and a lot of, quote, steel dealing with what she said in the past weeks.

00:29:21.000 And she makes millions of dollars a year off this show, folks. 0.99

00:29:23.000 She's putting all that in danger. 0.99

00:29:25.000 Again, she does some things that are silly and ignorant in the past, but she's got guts and guts is enough. 0.98

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00:33:01.000 Riders on the storm Riders on the storm Into this house we're born Into this world we're thrown Like a dog without a bone And a hacker out of road

00:33:28.000 Riders on the storm There's a killer on the road That's right and he's at Virginia Tech.

00:33:40.000 They're reporting at least 20 people dead.

00:33:46.000 They were saying 21.

00:33:48.000 This just broke in the last 10 minutes.

00:33:50.000 First they said that 9 people had been shot and wounded.

00:33:56.000 Now then they said 21 dead.

00:33:58.000 Fatalities.

00:33:59.000 Now they're saying 20 dead.

00:34:00.000 Who knows what the real numbers are.

00:34:03.000 In every case, the guy in the 80s going to the McDonald's and killing 30-something people turned out definite government op.

00:34:10.000 We know that Columbine was a government op. 0.74

00:34:12.000 We know that the kid up in Minnesota was a government op.

00:34:16.000 It's always the same MO.

00:34:18.000 They're always with weird government psychiatrists.

00:34:21.000 They're always on Prozac.

00:34:23.000 Let's get a report out on this right now at PrisonPlanet.com.

00:34:26.000 They're always on some serotonin reuptake inhibitor.

00:34:33.000 In Tasmania, the famous shooting that got guns basically pretty much banned over there, where he killed 20-something people.

00:34:39.000 He'd been in a government mine control facility connected to the Tavistock Institute.

00:34:44.000 I mean, it was incredible.

00:34:46.000 Now, the guy that shot John Lennon, of course, had been involved with World Vision, the big Christian CIA front group that has these brainwashing camps overseas and refugee centers. 0.92

00:34:58.000 The guy that shot Reagan's dad headed that up, and he'd also been at one of those camps.

00:35:02.000 I mean, over and over, the shooters come from there.

00:35:05.000 In every case, so look for him to be on a serotonin reuptake inhibitor.

00:35:10.000 Now, if he isn't a government mind control operative, and this is real, folks, this is documented in congressional testimony, that these people exist, like Sirhan, Sirhan, all of it, with Bobby Kennedy and the rest of it, woman in the polka dot dress, all of it, If it isn't that, it's video games.

00:35:32.000 Because it creates instinctive shooting, that's why it was created for the military, and how to continually shoot, and how to continually move on and shoot more targets. 0.57

00:35:40.000 And I've been looking for a hundred to get killed.

00:35:42.000 They're going to have the right kind of mind control operative, who they've already been training since childhood, Also, I'll be a big video game fan.

00:35:51.000 That'll keep them kind of in the program.

00:35:54.000 It's actually a Pentagon programming tool.

00:35:56.000 They developed it.

00:35:57.000 Doom and such games. 0.98

00:35:58.000 And they'll probably kill a hundred.

00:36:00.000 It could be two hundred. 0.99

00:36:01.000 What they'll do is they'll lock a school down.

00:36:03.000 Because when the guy goes in now, they lock him down.

00:36:05.000 So you can't get out.

00:36:06.000 You're just like, ahhhhhh!

00:36:08.000 And they're just, you know, like a Terminator.

00:36:10.000 You know, you can hear the music in the background. 0.85

00:36:18.000 This is absolutely disgusting, but look.

00:36:21.000 Hundreds of thousands get killed every year in car accidents.

00:36:25.000 Thousands get struck by lightning.

00:36:27.000 I haven't checked in the World Almanac in years, but shooting deaths themselves is like 14th, sometimes it's 12th, sometimes it's 15th, but it's been, you know, those different numbers every year.

00:36:38.000 Children have a much better chance of drowning in mop buckets.

00:36:42.000 Children have a better chance of dying in high school sports.

00:36:45.000 You know, that's official numbers.

00:36:46.000 Now some years guns are more.

00:36:48.000 There's some big shooting.

00:36:49.000 That year it'll be more.

00:36:50.000 But on average, high school sports, rugby, football, even baseball kills more people.

00:36:59.000 I don't know.

00:36:59.000 One time I hit a baseball and it went right into a kid's head and just like basically knocked his eye out.

00:37:04.000 It was like almost blinded him.

00:37:06.000 He was able to see.

00:37:07.000 They were able to fix the eye, but didn't mean it.

00:37:09.000 I mean I hit the ball and right into his face.

00:37:13.000 And I guess they didn't, you know, I was more like 10 years old, but I slugged it.

00:37:18.000 That's the kind of stuff that, and it was a softball actually, it's not very soft, but that's the type of thing that goes on.

00:37:26.000 Doesn't matter, there's going to be hysteria endlessly, the Democrats now are going to launch, even Rush Limbaugh years ago would say, why is it every time they introduce legislation this happens?

00:37:37.000 They got their assault weapons ban shot down, Bush was very angry about that, And there'll be a new reign of terror against the Second Amendment, despite the fact that these things are always suspicious, they're always on government, push drugs, and all these other statistics show that you have a better chance of, again, grounding that you do, than dying from a gun.

00:38:00.000 Dying from a shooter.

00:38:02.000 If you average in suicides, and people are going to do that regardless, then it would be higher than grounding.

00:38:10.000 But your chances of being shot, and by the way, they average in people getting shot, gangbangers killing each other.

00:38:15.000 That's averaged in.

00:38:17.000 And the lion's share of that is gangbanger fights from Detroit to Dallas to Houston to Los Angeles to New York to Chicago.

00:38:26.000 Here's the report right now.

00:38:28.000 At least one dead, others injured in Virginia Tech shooting.

00:38:31.000 Now again, the AP and others are going to be behind.

00:38:35.000 Okay, this is twenty minutes old.

00:38:38.000 Ten minutes ago, less than ten minutes ago, about five minutes ago when I was watching CNN, they were reporting that, and they're just going to keep reporting it, that first it was twenty-one dead, now they're saying twenty dead.

00:38:52.000 I wonder if the SWAT team sat outside forever.

00:38:55.000 Doesn't sound like it.

00:38:56.000 We've already heard about this on the news.

00:38:58.000 The chief is saying at least twenty dead in campus shootings.

00:39:02.000 The Virginia Tech police chief said at least twenty dead.

00:39:05.000 20 people were killed in twin shootings on the Blacksburg campus Monday morning.

00:39:10.000 Twin shootings!

00:39:12.000 Twin!

00:39:13.000 This is getting... This is... Oh my God.

00:39:16.000 Some victims were shot in the classroom.

00:39:18.000 Chief Wendell Fincham said... Remember the Beltway snipers?

00:39:25.000 Remember all those other ops?

00:39:25.000 Remember the Maryland snipers?

00:39:29.000 The D.C.

00:39:30.000 snipers?

00:39:31.000 Remember all that?

00:39:32.000 Total black ops, folks.

00:39:34.000 Total government operation.

00:39:37.000 I mean, that thing, I could talk for hours about that.

00:39:39.000 I mean, that was just a classic M.O.

00:39:42.000 He really had other shooters that witnesses kept seeing. 0.99

00:39:44.000 White guys in white vans, and you grab your mental patient patsies. 0.95

00:39:49.000 Some victims were shot in the classroom. 0.93

00:39:51.000 Chief Wendell Fincham said, adding that the gunman was dead, President Charles Steiger called the shootings a tragedy of monumental proportions.

00:40:00.000 A hospital spokesman told the Associated Press that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

00:40:06.000 And now they're just going to turn that campus into a total police state with metal detectors and guards everywhere and you'll pay more tuition for it.

00:40:13.000 And then when there is another shooting, the guards will run off and hide.

00:40:16.000 They've got armed guards up in Minnesota.

00:40:18.000 They've got armed guards in a bunch of these shootings.

00:40:20.000 And they run and cower.

00:40:21.000 Usually they're not even armed.

00:40:24.000 SWAT teams, four hours, fifteen minutes at Columbine.

00:40:27.000 Everybody bled to death because they needed a higher death toll.

00:40:29.000 All those big bombs didn't go off.

00:40:30.000 The hundred plus bombs those two guys supposedly brought in.

00:40:34.000 The armed security all pulled back and went to have lunch.

00:40:37.000 Totally staged, folks.

00:40:39.000 Totally staged.

00:40:41.000 So there was a little bit of upset there with the commanders that they hadn't gotten their full death toll that was supposedly going to be in the hundreds.

00:40:47.000 Over half the school didn't show up that day.

00:40:49.000 It was so known what was going to happen.

00:40:51.000 You know, black ops don't always go like you want them to, do they? 1.00

00:40:54.000 And so you had to wait four hours and 15 minutes to make sure everybody bled to death.

00:40:59.000 It's admitted that the SWAT team shot at least two of the students trying to exit.

00:41:05.000 And the other students reported other men in black masks actually doing the shootings.

00:41:09.000 One person, back to this, a hospital spokeswoman told the Associated Press that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

00:41:17.000 Sharon Honaker at a Carrollton New River Valley Medical Center told CNN that four parents had been transported there, one in critical conditions.

00:41:27.000 Since one person was killed, the others were wounded in multiple locations inside the dormitory.

00:41:32.000 About 7.15 a.m., Flynchem said, two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, an engineering building, two hours later.

00:41:41.000 Oh! 0.60

00:41:43.000 Somebody's running around shooting everybody, but you can't stop it, and we didn't hear about it on the news.

00:41:48.000 I was on Drudge.

00:41:49.000 I was on the news this morning.

00:41:50.000 What is going on here?

00:41:52.000 I mean, the fact that this wasn't, that place wasn't already had troops, you know, that's what the police are, swarming it, is insane.

00:42:02.000 And let me just give everybody a news flash.

00:42:03.000 If somebody's around my neighborhood shooting people, I'm gonna get my gun.

00:42:06.000 It's right here beside me. 1.00

00:42:07.000 I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna start shooting them. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Of course, the cops are so dumb, they'll probably shoot me. 1.00

00:42:12.000 But, uh, I mean, I don't know how people just sit around. 1.00

00:42:14.000 Is some guy shooting and then hours later he's shooting somewhere else on the campus?

00:42:19.000 Somebody's going around shooting people. 0.99

00:42:20.000 Man, I'm gonna go gun them down. 0.99

00:42:22.000 Let me just give everybody a newsflash. 0.93

00:42:23.000 And that's what they did back when the tower shooter in the 60's was up there blasting people. 0.99

00:42:27.000 Everybody just pulled up, pulled their rifles out and pinned them down so the police could, and we've had the police on here that did that, could go up there and kill that piece of garbage. 0.99

00:42:36.000 Not anymore, man. 0.99

00:42:37.000 You start pulling your guns out of citizens trying to help the cops, I guarantee you they'll just blow your guts off right up against the wall.

00:42:43.000 Because they've been trained, we're the enemy.

00:42:46.000 They'll just, they'll splatter you all over the seamen.

00:42:51.000 Uh, it goes on here.

00:42:52.000 Um, one person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7.15 a.m., Fletcher said.

00:42:59.000 Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, an engineering building, resulted in multiple casualties, the University reported.

00:43:06.000 By the way, go to CNN.

00:43:07.000 Get that audio.

00:43:08.000 We're going to play that, John.

00:43:10.000 Go to CNN and go to that story.

00:43:13.000 Chief, at least 20 dead in campus shootings.

00:43:15.000 Third paragraph's got a video.

00:43:16.000 I want to play that.

00:43:18.000 The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler-Johnson Hall, a co-ed dormitory that houses 895 students.

00:43:26.000 The dormitory, one of the largest residents of the hall.

00:43:29.000 2,600 acre campus is located near the Drill field and stadium.

00:43:36.000 Now, again, this could just be some disgruntled nut who hates the girls. 1.00

00:43:42.000 It could be that, too.

00:43:43.000 Very low probability.

00:43:45.000 Every time we give them the benefit of the doubt and think it's just some nut, I hope it's a nut.

00:43:48.000 But generally, special psychiatric care, usually with a former top government colonel in psych warfare, that'll be totally ignored in the media.

00:43:56.000 They'll be hopped up on drugs.

00:43:58.000 And they would have been gone for a couple months at strange facilities.

00:44:02.000 They'll have a Pentagon email.

00:44:05.000 I mean, this is what always happens.

00:44:07.000 Buford Furrow, the Jewish Center in L.A.

00:44:13.000 It goes on to say, Amy Steele, editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, said one of her reporters at the dormitory reported mass chaos.

00:44:21.000 I mean, back in the day when my dad was going to U2, they just all had their guns right there with them because they'd go out shooting.

00:44:27.000 That guy wouldn't have been around long.

00:44:29.000 The reporters said there were lots of students running around going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control.

00:44:35.000 Yeah, that's the modern world.

00:44:36.000 Keep everybody under control.

00:44:38.000 The cops should have ignored the people running around, and they should have gone seeking and destroying for who had the weapon.

00:44:45.000 And cops used to do that in the past.

00:44:47.000 They were fearless.

00:44:48.000 And I've studied it.

00:44:50.000 Not now, man. 0.81

00:44:51.000 They all wait for orders and put their body armor on and wet themselves like a bunch of pieces of filth.

00:44:59.000 I mean, I just don't understand it.

00:45:00.000 I just don't understand it.

00:45:03.000 I mean, you instinctively just spring into action to kill somebody that's going around blasting innocent people.

00:45:09.000 The reporter said there were lots of students running around going crazy, so I guess this is like Columbine, where this just went on for hours.

00:45:16.000 Oh my God.

00:45:17.000 See, I didn't even know what was going on, and I said, this went on for hours, Black Op. 1.00

00:45:20.000 Hours and hours.

00:45:22.000 And then it's just now on CNN.

00:45:23.000 This is, oh, oh my gosh, it's just the same MO every time, see?

00:45:29.000 The report is that there were lots of students running around going crazy.

00:45:32.000 The police officers were trying to slow everybody down and keep everything under control, according to the, uh, to Steele.

00:45:38.000 And it says, uh, Kristen Heiser said she was in a class at about 9.30 a.m.

00:45:43.000 Now, understand, these are the shooting people.

00:45:46.000 This is probably a group of people.

00:45:49.000 That'll probably get reported, but then it'll just be one patsy. 0.97

00:45:55.000 So this was going on at 7 in the morning, and now at 9.30 it's still going on.

00:46:00.000 Kristen Heiser said she was in class by 9.30am when she and her classmates saw about six gun-wielding police officers run by a window.

00:46:11.000 We were like, what's going on?

00:46:12.000 Because there definitely is a quaint town where stuff doesn't really happen.

00:46:18.000 It's pretty boring here, said Heizer, and that's where the feds always strike, during a phone interview as she sat at her classroom floor.

00:46:26.000 I've been telling you, we're going to have like a bee's lawn massacre, which we told you was an inside job.

00:46:31.000 The reporter that tried to cover it got drugged and poisoned, and then when she wouldn't shut up, they gunned her down at her house.

00:46:36.000 And this is simple.

00:46:37.000 Guys put on masks, they go in, Then they have, they evacuate out the back, the military blows the front of the building off, and machine guns people as they try to run to safety.

00:46:46.000 Same thing with the theater.

00:46:48.000 You got government operatives that are kidnapping, they put on masks, and the people that survived saw this, they put masks on, then the gas comes in, then they escape out the back.

00:46:58.000 In Saudi Arabia, with some of the bombings, the Saudi media reported that the U.S.

00:47:04.000 was there in the U.S.

00:47:05.000 controlled compounds helping them get to safety.

00:47:08.000 It's the same M.O.

00:47:09.000 over and over.

00:47:10.000 It's easy.

00:47:13.000 We were like, what's going on?

00:47:15.000 This is definitely a quaint town.

00:47:16.000 Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police sirens and saw officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.

00:47:26.000 Hiding behind trees.

00:47:30.000 Hiding behind trees.

00:47:32.000 You find out where the shots are coming from, and it's your job.

00:47:37.000 You signed up.

00:47:38.000 You've got the Billy Bob, you're tough attitude.

00:47:41.000 This is what you're supposed to do.

00:47:43.000 You're supposed to charge the tower, or charge the building.

00:47:46.000 I don't want to hear it from you.

00:47:47.000 Cops in the past did it!

00:47:50.000 That's what you're supposed to do!

00:47:51.000 That's what you signed on for! 1.00

00:47:53.000 And you go in there, and you kill that son of a bitch! 1.00

00:47:58.000 Excuse me, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:48:01.000 That's what you do, and I don't want to hear it. 1.00

00:48:03.000 Over and over again, you sit there for hours, wetting yourselves nowadays, because you're a cowardly scum. 1.00

00:48:08.000 You stopped becoming defenders of the people and you became revenue generators, and all the training was about how to keep yourself safe, and how it's you against the people, and all your bull. 1.00

00:48:17.000 And I know there's real cops out there that would have gone in there and taken this person out.

00:48:20.000 But they're so trained to go under orders, they had to wait until the boss got there. 0.97

00:48:24.000 The boss is always some lily-livered coward who licks boots to move up the chain. 0.96

00:48:30.000 You know, who plays Pinochle with the limp-wristed Dean, you know what I mean? 0.98

00:48:36.000 And you gotta wait until your little wobbly, nelly, police boss shows up, and then you're all sitting there, or you're fired. 0.96

00:48:45.000 They train you how to be cowards.

00:48:49.000 Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.

00:48:58.000 They told us to get out of there, so we ran across the drill field as quick as we could, he said.

00:49:02.000 Walden described the scenes of the campus mayhem, watching students recording them police, and it goes on.

00:49:09.000 There's several clips here.

00:49:10.000 Get the cops shooting, and get the... Do you have those clips ready yet, John?

00:49:18.000 No, no, it's okay.

00:49:19.000 We'll get it after the break.

00:49:20.000 Start playing it.

00:49:21.000 But, but, but, but, but get the gunshot one. 0.86

00:49:26.000 It was kind of scary, he said.

00:49:28.000 These two kids, I guess, had panicked and jumped out of the top story window.

00:49:32.000 And the one kid broke his ankle and the other girl was not in good shape, just lying on the ground.

00:49:39.000 It's better than getting shot up there in the dorm.

00:49:41.000 See?

00:49:41.000 Oh, it's a gun-free zone.

00:49:44.000 I mean, if I would have lived in a dorm in college, folks, I guarantee you I'd have had a gun.

00:49:48.000 And somebody would have started going around shooting.

00:49:49.000 I'd have gone and just... I mean, that's just the way it is.

00:49:54.000 I mean, I remember talking to my dad growing up.

00:49:59.000 I said, what did you do when he came in your office and was up here robbing? 0.94

00:50:02.000 He goes, well, just like I was hunting a deer, I'd real quietly come up to the edge here with my pistol and I'd shoot him a couple times in the back. 0.98

00:50:10.000 That's how you handle it. 1.00

00:50:13.000 You just sneak up on him like you're hunting quail and you kill him. 0.75

00:50:16.000 And if you got people inside a building that are being shot, you charge in there and you take them out.

00:50:21.000 I mean, this is what real men live for.

00:50:24.000 I don't know.

00:50:25.000 I mean, I just can imagine. 1.00

00:50:27.000 I know right now I'd charge in there and kill that SOB. 1.00

00:50:31.000 And I'd probably get shot. 1.00

00:50:32.000 It just doesn't matter. 1.00

00:50:33.000 I don't understand how we became such cowards.

00:50:35.000 Men used to like to defend innocents.

00:50:37.000 Men used to like to go after bullies. 1.00

00:50:39.000 Men used to like to go after scum. 1.00

00:50:43.000 I mean, that's what you're here for. 1.00

00:50:44.000 That's why you're a man. 1.00

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00:54:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:11.000 Alright, CNN and Fox are both reporting that the guy's been killed, but they're telling everybody to stay indoors.

00:54:19.000 I guess while the guys in gunny suits evacuate, because there might be a gunman on the loose.

00:54:26.000 Now again, this could be some nut, but that's a low probability because we've seen this so much, and the fact that this drug on for hours is very suspicious.

00:54:33.000 I'm told we've got a caller one mile from this in Virginia named Matt.

00:54:38.000 Matt, thank you for joining us.

00:54:40.000 What's going on?

00:54:41.000 Well, I'm about a block away from where the whole thing happened.

00:54:44.000 I woke up in the corner.

00:54:45.000 Oh, a block.

00:54:45.000 Okay, you're a block.

00:54:46.000 I'm going to start over.

00:54:47.000 Tell us the town you're in, what you're witnessing.

00:54:50.000 Blacksburg, Virginia.

00:54:51.000 I'm on the campus of Virginia Tech and woke up this morning to loudspeakers going off saying that there's a shooter on campus.

00:55:00.000 Please stay inside.

00:55:01.000 And they just put up this big loudspeaker system because we had another school shooting a while back.

00:55:07.000 At the first day of the school year, a guy went nuts and shot a couple of cops.

00:55:12.000 This is the real deal.

00:55:15.000 The first report was that there were two shooters Always the same, it's oh my god.

00:55:21.000 Two shooters total.

00:55:23.000 Oh my god.

00:55:24.000 So then basically what it's shaped into so far is that there was a guy who shot three people at AJ dorm, which is just, oh it's about a half mile from here, and then fled across campus, went into a classroom, and killed everybody.

00:55:40.000 And then killed himself is the word.

00:55:42.000 And I bet money if the cops would have scrambled immediately, they could have seen this guy running around with a gun. 0.86

00:55:47.000 They should have just attacked him.

00:55:49.000 I just cannot believe it.

00:55:50.000 I mean, I'm sorry folks, I've studied this stuff.

00:55:52.000 When people tried this in the past, the cops just killed them.

00:55:55.000 I mean, the cops didn't used to be like this.

00:55:57.000 I just can't believe it.

00:55:58.000 Well, this is crazy because we've had four bomb threats this week on the same street.

00:56:05.000 There was another bomb threat today, and they had to evacuate all these rescue vehicles because of another bomb threat.

00:56:10.000 I mean, they pulled out the whole... There was every cop in three counties out here just the other day, right on this very street.

00:56:16.000 Well, that shows... Listen, this has got Black Op written all over it. 0.93

00:56:19.000 That's right.

00:56:20.000 I remember hearing about the last shooting.

00:56:22.000 You got a shooting there in this little rural area, then another one.

00:56:25.000 Weird bomb threats.

00:56:27.000 Oh my God.

00:56:28.000 Somebody's got to get to the school surveillance camera tapes and data banks.

00:56:32.000 I bet you're going to see a lot of suspicious people in there.

00:56:34.000 Now they're saying they've killed the shooter now.

00:56:36.000 Is that what they're saying?

00:56:37.000 No.

00:56:38.000 What I heard last was that he had killed himself and they've kind of dropped the two shooter thing.

00:56:42.000 I haven't heard anything else about that.

00:56:44.000 And it looks, from the activities of the police, it looks like it's over.

00:56:49.000 There was a big shift a few hours back.

00:56:52.000 Let me ask you.

00:56:53.000 What's your gut on this, Matt?

00:56:56.000 You know, I don't know yet, Alex.

00:56:57.000 I'm going to have to wait and hear how it all rolls out.

00:57:00.000 All I can tell you is what I've heard so far, and I've never seen anything like this in this town.

00:57:04.000 And I will say this, it's been a very strange week living where I'm living because, like I said just a couple of days ago, every cop in three counties, I mean all of them, they were all in their SWAT gear and everything.

00:57:18.000 Somebody's been calling in bomb threats all week.

00:57:22.000 And I don't know, it's kind of, isn't that kind of strange?

00:57:25.000 Well, that could be the crazy person, or it could be somebody inside intelligence that didn't want this black op to go forward. 0.88

00:57:32.000 Bottom line, maybe up to 35 people. 0.88

00:57:36.000 35 now, dead.

00:57:38.000 I just saw that during the break, they were saying over 30. 0.93

00:57:41.000 This is absolutely disgusting.

00:57:43.000 Look, immediately, it's time to rearm the pilots.

00:57:47.000 It is time, because they were armed, they could be armed before 9-11, two months before they change the law.

00:57:51.000 Very suspicious.

00:57:52.000 It's time that if a professor wants to have a gun, that there be a secured lockbox.

00:57:59.000 They go take some certification course.

00:58:01.000 There be a secured lockbox underneath their table or desk. 1.00

00:58:08.000 And, uh, it's time to trust the citizenry again, and this piece of garbage might have been able to kill four or five people, but I guarantee you every other professor would want to run, and they'd have killed this son of a bitch. 0.99

00:58:20.000 I'm sorry to talk like that, but people have been killed, and I'm tired of it, and stay there, Matt, because... 1.00

00:58:26.000 Stay there, Matt.

00:58:26.000 I want to get you on the other side, and I want to debrief you on everything you've seen as somebody that lives on campus.

00:58:32.000 Okay, Matt?

00:58:33.000 Sure, thank you.

00:58:33.000 Alright, stay there.

00:58:34.000 We'll be right back with Matt, who joins us from Virginia on the campus, where there has been massive killing.

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00:59:11.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 Matt Kazee is a Genesis listener.

00:59:21.000 He's also involved in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

00:59:23.000 I was just talking to him during the break.

00:59:25.000 And he's agreed to go on the record with his full name, Matt Kazee.

00:59:30.000 K-A-Z-E-E. 0.98

00:59:32.000 And he's gonna get the floor now with this Virginia shooting.

00:59:35.000 They're now saying it could be as many as 34 dead.

00:59:38.000 And we have some audio clips that are going to be coming up as well here.

00:59:41.000 We'll continue to take your phone calls.

00:59:42.000 I'm about to get into the big 9-11 developments on Rosie O'Donnell.

00:59:45.000 We've got to keep pushing and exposing that.

00:59:46.000 Can't let this shooting become the total distraction, but it is important.

00:59:51.000 And it's either a complete nut or it has a lot of tell-tale earmarks that will black off.

00:59:55.000 Now you're there living on campus a block away from where a lot of this happened.

00:59:59.000 You're right in the middle of it.

01:00:01.000 Start with what you heard, what you saw, what the first media reports were.

01:00:05.000 Walk us through it.

01:00:06.000 Take your time.

01:00:07.000 Alright, this morning I woke up to a loudspeaker going off.

01:00:11.000 I thought it was somebody driving by with a bullhorn, actually.

01:00:14.000 But I found out that they had just installed these loudspeakers across campus because of the last school shooting that we had, which was the first day of the school year.

01:00:24.000 Stop right there.

01:00:26.000 Let's go back and detail that one.

01:00:28.000 Okay, actually, I knew this guy.

01:00:30.000 He was a kid who went to high school around here.

01:00:34.000 Everybody knew this kid.

01:00:36.000 His brother fought in the Afghanistan War.

01:00:40.000 They got in a little bit of trouble.

01:00:42.000 His brother tried to rob an ATM machine, and he was involved in some other type of robbery.

01:00:49.000 He broke out of jail, killed maybe three people.

01:00:53.000 Two of them were cops.

01:00:55.000 And the brother, like I said, because he was his brother and was apparently involved in this, they just gave him 35 years.

01:01:05.000 But the whole community has been shook up by this terrible tragedy that we just had.

01:01:11.000 And today... So it all starts with an Afghan operator, an American troop who'd been in combat.

01:01:20.000 He was just... That was the brother of the shooter.

01:01:22.000 I understand, but it's all tied into that, just like with the tower.

01:01:26.000 Please continue.

01:01:28.000 Anyway, so they had installed these loudspeakers.

01:01:31.000 That's what I heard this morning was basically an alert, a warning that there's a shooter on campus.

01:01:37.000 Please stay indoors.

01:01:38.000 Stay off the streets.

01:01:39.000 Stay away from windows.

01:01:42.000 I heard that for maybe 20 minutes before it actually hit the news, and when the news came on, it was that there was a shooter on campus, that maybe two people or three people had been shot, but no confirmation of any of that.

01:01:57.000 And as it developed, we were just flooded with ambulances and rescue.

01:02:02.000 The whole SWAT team showing up right out and very close by here.

01:02:06.000 And we went out and started talking to people on the street to find out what was going on.

01:02:09.000 Well, this is also a victim disarmament zone because under federal law, none of the citizens can have guns that live on campus.

01:02:17.000 So it's a perfect place for a black op because nobody's got guns. 1.00

01:02:20.000 Please continue.

01:02:22.000 Yes, and it was basically pretty well known Early on, the first word was that there were multiple shooters and I think that had to do with how many people it was being reported that were killed.

01:02:37.000 He killed three people, or at least shot three people, killed at least one of those three, I think maybe all three, a few blocks away from here.

01:02:46.000 I'm making a prediction, a guesstimation.

01:02:49.000 I bet he's going to be an Iraq or Afghan vet.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, well, we'll see if that comes true.

01:02:56.000 You never know.

01:02:57.000 Because if they're not going to be our cops... It's about the ROTC, by the way.

01:03:01.000 Oh, it happened by the ROTC.

01:03:02.000 Oh, no, it's... Literally half a block away from the ROTC buildings and all the ROTC dorms.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, it's the military.

01:03:09.000 And watch, he's going to be disappeared for the last few months, and then we'll dig out that he was at a special installation being given psychiatric care.

01:03:19.000 I'll tell you what... No, this happens over and over again.

01:03:21.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:03:21.000 Please continue.

01:03:23.000 No, no, no.

01:03:24.000 I'll tell you what I did hear about that was that it was a kid who was going to a specific classroom.

01:03:30.000 Now this is not confirmed.

01:03:31.000 This was one of the last things that I heard.

01:03:33.000 It was a kid going to a specific classroom because of whatever.

01:03:37.000 Some people were making fun of him or whatever.

01:03:40.000 So they're now saying it's a trench coat mafia type deal?

01:03:44.000 Uh, that's what, the media's not saying anything locally as far as whether they've actually got the guy or not.

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01:07:09.000 I haven't even had a chance to get to yet because this mass shooting, it could be as many as 34 dead.

01:07:17.000 The number continues to go up.

01:07:19.000 I kept saying on air, folks, you're going to have some university or high school shooting.

01:07:23.000 It could be as many as 100 dead. 0.82

01:07:24.000 That's what I've been saying in the past because these black ops are just bad news. 1.00

01:07:30.000 Not to mention all the brainwashed drug addict youth that is just Snorting methamphetamine and playing 15 hours of video games a day where all they do is mass shoot people.

01:07:39.000 Those were developed by the Pentagon to instinctively block the inhibition towards splattering innocent people.

01:07:49.000 And it's just instinctive firing.

01:07:51.000 Because in the past, going back 30, 40, 50 years, you had a few mass shooters, but they start shooting little kids or women and children in a McDonald's and they start getting, you know, throwing up, getting sick.

01:08:02.000 Because you're built not to do that.

01:08:04.000 You're built to feel good when somebody attacks you and they're big and bad and, you know, you strike back and they hit the ground.

01:08:10.000 I mean, that's instinctive.

01:08:12.000 I mean, your design, really, you have almost morals built into you.

01:08:14.000 And then when you break that code, I guess, and then sin against, you know, your very nature, I don't know how to explain it.

01:08:20.000 The point is, I'm getting off into just how people operate.

01:08:25.000 It's just absolutely amazing that they had victim disarmament, total gun ban on all the campuses in America.

01:08:31.000 I had a friend one time who was, UT campus is just giant, and he was walking across just a corner of campus.

01:08:40.000 And the cop saw that he had a fanny pack and he had a concealed carry.

01:08:44.000 And he walked over and said, what is that?

01:08:47.000 He said, oh, that's my concealed carry.

01:08:48.000 And they said, boom, up against the wall, put him up against the bus stop.

01:08:51.000 And he was literally about 10 feet on the campus.

01:08:53.000 They just wait, lurking to get our best and brightest and most upright citizens.

01:08:58.000 By the way, all the gun grabbers, we're about to go back to our guest. 0.55

01:09:01.000 I'm going to go back to Mark.

01:09:04.000 Kazee there who is on campus ladies and gentlemen literally just a block from where the shooting was going on We're going to be talking to him in just a moment, but I had another friend who didn't who had forgotten about the federal law and I was walking across campus and going to a Patriot meeting and some cops showed up because he was giving people silver eight dollar but the time little silver pieces $10 pieces were really worth about $8.

01:09:31.000 He was showing them to people, you know, liberty money and going, oh look at this great.

01:09:35.000 And the cops thought that was illegal and then came to arrest him for just, they thought it was counterfeit.

01:09:40.000 They thought you're not allowed to have Silver struck, you know, other than the government.

01:09:44.000 Remember the guy who went and bought like a $50 item at Best Buy with $2 bills and the clerks thought it was illegal, the manager thought it was illegal. 0.97

01:09:55.000 They were all so dumb that they thought that was counterfeit. 0.98

01:09:58.000 You see, that's one reason they want to dumb us down. 1.00

01:10:00.000 And a lot of the public, folks, is literally retarded now. 1.00

01:10:03.000 They've been conditioned to do nothing but entertainment, so they never have any of their own thoughts. 1.00

01:10:07.000 And they're totally dumb. 1.00

01:10:09.000 And remember that case? 1.00

01:10:10.000 He went to jail.

01:10:11.000 They went ahead and arrested him.

01:10:12.000 The cops thought it was fake, too.

01:10:14.000 None of the cops that showed up. 1.00

01:10:16.000 And then, of course, the higher-ups went, You idiots! 1.00

01:10:18.000 Let him go! 1.00

01:10:19.000 $2 bills!

01:10:20.000 What are you talking about?

01:10:21.000 You know, they got him signing a Declaration of Independence on the back.

01:10:24.000 They're really neat.

01:10:25.000 I've got a couple of them.

01:10:28.000 It's just unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen, that I've had to go speak at UT.

01:10:36.000 While I was getting death threats, and while really scary people were coming around, I mean, you talk about...

01:10:43.000 And I had a police officer bodyguard there and he couldn't even, well one of my listeners, now I never had bodyguards in the past, but there was a guy in a black trench coat going around, he went to another meeting I was at and was pulling his hand out and pointing it at me like it was a gun, at the back of the, I mean, really scaring everybody.

01:10:58.000 So I, and everybody was like, no, you gotta have a bodyguard, you gotta have a bodyguard.

01:11:01.000 So I said, okay, I'll get one.

01:11:03.000 Couldn't have a gun.

01:11:03.000 I mean, even a cop couldn't have a gun on their off-duty on federal property, on God property, on state property under federal law.

01:11:11.000 Uh, so, that's how it works, folks.

01:11:14.000 And, uh, that's how America operates.

01:11:17.000 Everybody's like, wear a bulletproof vest.

01:11:18.000 I'm like, no, I'm not going to wear a bulletproof vest.

01:11:20.000 I'm frankly not worried about it.

01:11:21.000 I don't want to die, but, you know, just, I'm not worried about it.

01:11:23.000 I'm not going to live in fear.

01:11:25.000 And, uh, you know, that's just the way it is.

01:11:29.000 Uh, but, uh, the cop was wearing a bulletproof vest.

01:11:31.000 He was just going to tackle.

01:11:33.000 He actually had two cops there, but I'm already digressing and some other people.

01:11:36.000 But, um, then that's a real cop, you know, ready to tackle somebody.

01:11:41.000 Um, but, uh, and of course you have the UT Police there, totally worthless.

01:11:46.000 I mean, literally, folks, when there's a shooter, they run and hide.

01:11:48.000 And that basically happened here, but I'm gonna shut up.

01:11:51.000 Let's play about a minute and a half clip of somebody on a cell phone with the gunshots going off, and we'll go back to our eyewitness guest.

01:11:56.000 Here it is.

01:11:57.000 Okay.

01:12:04.000 Jamal Alberguti is, I believe, on the phone with us now.

01:12:08.000 Jamal, pretty unbelievable pictures that you have there.

01:12:13.000 I'm hoping.

01:12:13.000 It was a little frightening watching because it seemed like you were pretty darn close.

01:12:17.000 We first heard a series of shots.

01:12:20.000 We see the officers.

01:12:22.000 Can't tell if those shots are coming from their guns or from possibly the person inside the building or outside of the building.

01:12:30.000 Tell us what you were able to see with your own naked eye.

01:12:35.000 Well, the first thing I saw is when the policemen started taking their guns out, and then I knew that this was serious.

01:12:43.000 I really didn't hear anything about the shooting that happened in A.J.

01:12:48.000 But when I saw the guns, I knew that this isn't another bomb threat.

01:12:53.000 Then I started hearing some gunshots far away.

01:12:58.000 It seemed to me that they were not at Norris Hall, the building where the cops were just near right now.

01:13:08.000 And then all the cops were trying to get into Norris Hall and they used like a bomb or something to open one of the doors or probably they dropped a tear bomb in the building.

01:13:24.000 There was a person in the building trying to, on the second floor at Norris trying to tell the cops that he's in there and probably trying to guide them.

01:13:34.000 Now, Jamal, were you able to hear that person?

01:13:37.000 And again, just to be clear for our viewers, this is apparently Norris Hall, the site of the second shooting that took place at Virginia Tech this morning.

01:13:45.000 Jamal, you were able to hear some type of conversation between somebody on the second floor and the police officers outside?

01:13:51.000 Well, I wasn't, but I saw his hand from the window.

01:13:55.000 He was trying to reach outside the window to talk to the cops.

01:14:00.000 So, this is what I saw.

01:14:02.000 I didn't actually hear him talking to them, but he was, well, he was, he was talking to them.

01:14:08.000 I did not hear what he said.

01:14:11.000 I was a little bit far away from there.

01:14:13.000 All right.

01:14:13.000 Now, after we see the pictures here that you were able to capture with your cell phone, we see that you actually moved quite a bit closer as the police went on down, I assume, inside the building.

01:14:23.000 What happened after all of that?

01:14:27.000 Well, I wasn't able to see anything because a cop came from behind me and he asked me to leave the area.

01:14:33.000 Right.

01:14:34.000 I imagine so, for your safety, obviously.

01:14:38.000 We're going to our eyewitness who lives on campus.

01:14:41.000 He is a 9-11 truther and he reminded me that he has called in for the show before.

01:14:45.000 And again, ladies and gentlemen, this is happening at the Virginia Tech College there in the West Ambler Johnston Hall.

01:14:59.000 This is absolutely horrible.

01:15:01.000 They're saying it could be well over 34 people dead now.

01:15:04.000 The number is just climbing.

01:15:07.000 Going back to our guest, Matt Kazee.

01:15:14.000 Matt, thank you for coming on with us.

01:15:15.000 Please continue, and again, go back to the start.

01:15:17.000 Go through all the facets, what you heard, the other bomb threats, and then detail what happened today.

01:15:23.000 You've got the floor.

01:15:24.000 I would have to say that the whole town has been on a little bit of tension because for the past week we've had multiple bomb threats.

01:15:30.000 This happened a week ago.

01:15:32.000 We had cleared out campus right over here where the second shooting was.

01:15:36.000 Then they had at the end of the week, I guess this was probably Friday, I'm not sure, but at the end of the week they had three multiple bomb threats in one day.

01:15:49.000 And they brought in every vehicle that they could.

01:15:53.000 They had the whole place covered.

01:15:55.000 So in some ways, SWAT has been over and has covered this little area where all of this happened for the past week.

01:16:02.000 They stayed until about 9.30, 10 o'clock that night, and nothing ever came from it.

01:16:07.000 The campus put out a $5,000 reward for any information.

01:16:11.000 Hadn't heard anything.

01:16:12.000 Today, we all know what happened.

01:16:16.000 It hit the fan, that's for sure.

01:16:19.000 I just heard that report on the phone there, and it sounded like they were saying that he was trying to holler to the police from the window or something like that.

01:16:27.000 Well, basically the individual is going around taking his time killing all the people that were told to stay indoors.

01:16:32.000 They do the exact opposite.

01:16:34.000 And so it looks like that there were people jumping out and other things.

01:16:38.000 People saying, hey, he's in here.

01:16:40.000 Help us while he's going around, you know, killing people.

01:16:44.000 Who knows by then what really happened and we'll probably never know, you know, for a year or so, then we found out what happened to Columbine.

01:16:50.000 I mean, do you really believe Harrison Clybull were able to get over 100?

01:16:54.000 It was 124 bombs.

01:16:56.000 some of them huge 60-something-gallon tanks of propane that two people could hardly carry, and butane, that they were able just to take 120-something bombs into there, and that half the school, more than half, was empty that day, and the security was just gone more than half, was empty that day, and the security was just gone that day, and they were able just to bring

01:17:18.000 I mean, this is, and then, by the way, both their parents did high-level government work, very classified positions, very suspicious, that the son of an FBI agent founded the Trenchcoat Mafia two years before.

01:17:29.000 Harrison Kleibold made a video for the school.

01:17:32.000 They were in the school's internet of how they were going to kill everyone.

01:17:35.000 I mean, what do you think about that, my friend?

01:17:38.000 Uh, well, yeah, that's impossible that they could get all those bombs in there that day.

01:17:43.000 We know that. 0.94

01:17:43.000 We also know how many kids got killed by men in black that day. 0.94

01:17:48.000 I don't know if there were any shots fired.

01:17:50.000 By the way, I know Paul Watson's doing an article on this.

01:17:53.000 Paul, type in it.

01:17:54.000 CBS News is the one.

01:17:55.000 I pulled it up when I was at a friend's house a few months ago.

01:17:57.000 I was telling him about it and he didn't believe it, so I pulled it up.

01:17:59.000 It's something like, Hundreds of bombs at Columbine.

01:18:03.000 And then it's 124 or 126 CBS News headlines.

01:18:07.000 I think it's 124, memory serves.

01:18:09.000 Go ahead, sorry.

01:18:10.000 Well, I'm wondering now if we're going to find something like that with this because of the whole bomb thrift.

01:18:15.000 It's a giant.

01:18:16.000 Bottom line, it's either a giant provocateur op or it's a pure government op. 0.99

01:18:21.000 Or it's a mental patient.

01:18:22.000 But do you know, before I even knew about this, last hour when I just had seen the article that it was a mass shooting, I said, if we hear there's multiple shooters, if there's a whole bunch of people shot, if there's any kind of drills involved, or anything before, it's a black op. 0.91

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01:18:38.000 Oh my God.

01:18:39.000 All of the above, sounds like to me.

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01:23:14.000 We got Larry Pratt popping in to break down victim disarmament and what should have been done at this school.

01:23:20.000 I'm going to tell you right now, my children are not going to any of these colleges until they change the gun laws where at least the faculty can be armed.

01:23:30.000 Period.

01:23:31.000 And they're not going to any public school either.

01:23:33.000 So somebody can just go.

01:23:34.000 I mean, the schools lock it down so your children scrabble like gerbils up against a cage wall.

01:23:40.000 The windows are all barred.

01:23:41.000 They got fences around them.

01:23:43.000 And they've already had cases where people are like, let me out!

01:23:46.000 And they just walk up and dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

01:23:49.000 You know, the Terminator.

01:23:51.000 I mean, this is just absolutely incredible.

01:23:54.000 By the way, I mean, it's not.

01:23:56.000 You just hide.

01:23:58.000 You run and you hide.

01:23:59.000 You wait until the person comes around the corner and you at least go after them.

01:24:02.000 Now, they've had a lot of school shooting cases where the principal has to run out to their car, get the gun out of the car.

01:24:07.000 Remember, in one case, the principal got fired, went in and took him out.

01:24:14.000 In another case, went in and just ran the shooter off.

01:24:17.000 And he didn't get in trouble.

01:24:19.000 I mean, thank God the principal went and got their gun and took this person out.

01:24:26.000 Look, it's fine for the police to have guns.

01:24:27.000 What about us?

01:24:29.000 We're the good people.

01:24:34.000 We need to be protected from the postman and the crazy cops and the criminals and everybody going postal.

01:24:43.000 I mean, every office needs an instant access pistol safe.

01:24:46.000 A couple of them with trusted employees.

01:24:48.000 And, uh, you know, if somebody ever busts in here, I mean, folks, I mean, let me tell you this fast.

01:24:57.000 And I got a 7-shot .357 Magnum.

01:24:59.000 I go with a revolver because it's simple.

01:25:01.000 It's not going to jam.

01:25:02.000 And when I've got adrenaline going through me, it's going to get the job done.

01:25:05.000 Take the rounds out of it.

01:25:08.000 And again, folks, I never talk about guns a lot on the air.

01:25:11.000 I'm just for the Second Amendment.

01:25:12.000 I've got quite a few.

01:25:13.000 And I know how to use them.

01:25:16.000 And you just need to be ready, ladies and gentlemen.

01:25:18.000 See, I'm spinning the cylinder.

01:25:22.000 You need to be ready, ladies and gentlemen.

01:25:25.000 And I'm so busy I never get to go to the range three or four times a year.

01:25:28.000 Everybody needs to do it more than that.

01:25:30.000 And you need to protect yourself.

01:25:33.000 I got a .357 Magnum Smith & Wesson.

01:25:36.000 I bought this after they quit being gun banners. 0.88

01:25:40.000 And again, I don't know how to use the fanciest of guns, but for something for quick defense, this is something I can, at 50 yards, I can shoot somebody in the chest with this.

01:25:52.000 At 50 yards, I can shoot about a 4 or 5 inch pattern with this handgun.

01:25:59.000 That's when I'm calm.

01:26:00.000 But people will tell you in the office, other places you can use a shotgun, but that's something again that's too big, too hard to store.

01:26:09.000 And the point is, somebody comes around here wanting trouble, I'm not going down without a fight.

01:26:15.000 Okay?

01:26:16.000 And I'm not going to live in a filth-bagged state or city where they tell me I can't have this protection I've got in my hand right now.

01:26:25.000 But again, in those dormitories with your sons and daughters, they're not able to have an incident access pistol safe.

01:26:31.000 They're not able to protect themselves. 0.97

01:26:33.000 They've got to sit there while some piece of trash, mental patient, drug addict, or government operative, or some mind control victim, and we know that goes on. 0.99

01:26:42.000 They gotta sit there while they have their way with them. 0.99

01:26:45.000 Going back to our guest, Matt Kazee.

01:26:47.000 Matt, again, you live there on campus.

01:26:49.000 What area of campus do you live on?

01:26:51.000 I'm pretty much right in the heart of campus.

01:26:53.000 I'm about less than a block away from the ROTC dorms and the armory, which is...

01:27:00.000 Pretty much less than a block away from this second shooting.

01:27:03.000 And again, the armory can have weapons, the troops can have weapons, but you, the evil citizen, can't.

01:27:07.000 Because I know under federal law, any university, you can't have guns.

01:27:11.000 I guess you've got to live there where you can't have guns while there's multiple shooters running around thumbing at the mouth on a routine basis?

01:27:17.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:27:18.000 That's crazy.

01:27:19.000 Have they announced anything that they have caught him or that he killed himself on the news yet?

01:27:23.000 Uh, yeah, I think that Bob was just out there.

01:27:25.000 I think they're saying they killed himself, but they're not sure.

01:27:27.000 They're could, you know, stay in your homes.

01:27:29.000 Okay, I just ran up there just while, in between break, and you can tell that it's over.

01:27:35.000 I mean, it's just a completely different tone.

01:27:37.000 All the vehicles are still there, but it's over.

01:27:39.000 You know that they had to, they had so many people there, they had to bring in the local Blacksburg transit buses to carry them out.

01:27:47.000 They didn't have enough ambulances.

01:27:50.000 And I sent you guys a bunch of pictures, actually, that's getting sent right now.

01:27:54.000 And there are a couple of pictures of that.

01:27:56.000 And when I get off the phone, I'm going to go back out there and try and photograph it.

01:28:00.000 And I will find out the story on this guy from local students.

01:28:05.000 I think, I'm pretty sure he is a student, is what I've heard so far.

01:28:08.000 But it's still, you know... Do you have a cell phone?

01:28:11.000 Can you go out on the ground for us out there?

01:28:13.000 Oh yeah, I sure can.

01:28:14.000 Tell you what, during the break, give him the hotline, John.

01:28:21.000 John Harmon, will you give him the hotline?

01:28:23.000 John's the best doing five jobs.

01:28:25.000 Have him call right now.

01:28:25.000 Give him the hotline.

01:28:26.000 Let's get him on the horn. 0.75

01:28:27.000 Let's come back.

01:28:28.000 Talk to our eyewitness.

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01:34:08.000 The top head mind control doctor, 1977 MKUltra hearings.

01:34:13.000 I mean, just unbelievable! 0.98

01:34:18.000 It's just, they think we're so stupid that the public doesn't know there's such a thing as mind control. 0.97

01:34:24.000 Let me tell you, the stuff you saw in Manchurian Candidate, the new one that came out, is exactly, exactly how things bounce. 0.98

01:34:33.000 That's how the ball bounces.

01:34:36.000 And that's exactly what they can do.

01:34:40.000 That is so accurate, it is chilling.

01:34:42.000 But they don't get you in facilities and hop you up on drugs for a week and torture you.

01:34:47.000 They do it for months or years.

01:34:48.000 And it works real well.

01:34:53.000 Oh, man.

01:34:57.000 Unbelievable.

01:34:59.000 I mean, this didn't happen in the past in America. 0.97

01:35:01.000 And you do have some nuts that go kill people. 0.92

01:35:03.000 And you got people that go to their work and kill people. 0.54

01:35:05.000 But you got postal stuff.

01:35:07.000 Most of that's real. 0.99

01:35:08.000 They go shoot their boss and co-workers. 0.85

01:35:12.000 But this business of going around shooting 50-something people, killing 30-something of them, that's not normal.

01:35:18.000 And by normal, I mean even in the sick world of mass shootings, that's not what you see in the criminology.

01:35:25.000 Now, he lives on campus, and he's Matt Kazee, a listener of this show, there in Blacksburg, Virginia.

01:35:35.000 It is Monday, April 16, 2007.

01:35:36.000 We are going to be talking about 9-11 and tax time and a bunch of war news, but we're talking about a mass shooting.

01:35:43.000 Now the real test is, you know they already had a bunch of gun bills prepared.

01:35:46.000 They've just been introducing last week and will be introducing this next week.

01:35:49.000 And when they get back in session in the next few weeks, excuse me, they've been preparing bills and having press conferences about bills in the last month, to be more exact.

01:36:00.000 And now you're going to see them all introduced to the endless drum beating, so that next time there's a mass shooting, we'll all be totally disarmed and whoever's got the gun can kill 200, 300.

01:36:11.000 And, uh, during breaks I have been watching CNN and Fox, flipping back and forth, and it's exactly what I thought it was.

01:36:21.000 It's video and photos of cops, hours into the shooting, while shooting's still going on, standing behind the doors of their patrol cars cowering.

01:36:30.000 When they knew the basic building, they should have immediately had police charged from all four sides in heavy body armor.

01:36:39.000 They should have had SWAT teams lowered onto the roof. 0.82

01:36:41.000 They got SWAT teams all over the place.

01:36:43.000 They all got helicopters.

01:36:44.000 But these guys got to sit around and plan for hours.

01:36:47.000 I mean, if you want to do some planning, they've all got armored vehicles. 0.78

01:36:49.000 They should have rammed an armored vehicle right through the front door and gone right in there and killed this person.

01:36:55.000 But no, they had to wait hours while he walked around shooting everybody.

01:37:00.000 Four hours and fifteen minutes of Columbine they shot there.

01:37:03.000 I'm tired of it!

01:37:06.000 I know this.

01:37:07.000 If there's ever a mass shooting around here, I mean, back, I mean, back when it happened at the Tower, the citizens just pulled their rifles out and kept them pinned down and stopped them from killing.

01:37:15.000 He killed most of the people in the first ten minutes and then folks started shooting back and then he only killed about one or two more and wounded a couple because people, the police and the citizens were shooting at him.

01:37:23.000 Hundreds of people were shooting at him.

01:37:26.000 Mike Hanson's daddy drove the ambulance right up there and was loading police that had been shot and citizens in.

01:37:33.000 Literally, it was in the newspaper with flecks of concrete cutting him, hitting him in the face with bullets from that Marine shooting at him.

01:37:42.000 For those who don't know Mike, he's done work for me for years, runs the TV show, but his daddy, uh, what was his dad's name?

01:37:49.000 Everybody knows him around town, all the old timers.

01:37:51.000 It was, uh, it's a German name.

01:37:54.000 It's, uh, ah, I can't remember his name.

01:37:58.000 Otto Hanson.

01:37:59.000 There you go.

01:38:02.000 Ah, it doesn't matter.

01:38:03.000 Otto liked to drive race cars.

01:38:05.000 He had, you know, they did the drag racing back when the cops wouldn't come after you for that.

01:38:10.000 And that was back when ambulances drove fast, too.

01:38:11.000 He liked the ambulances because you had to drive fast.

01:38:14.000 Otto Hanson.

01:38:14.000 That's what made America great was the people that were daredevils and liked risk.

01:38:19.000 Not a bunch of cowards following procedure.

01:38:22.000 But I guarantee you, folks, if there was some mass shooting and I tried to go down there and go in or go help the police, they'd gun me down and say I was a shooter.

01:38:28.000 That's how America's changed, ladies and gentlemen, and it's been done by design so the people and the government are at each other's throats.

01:38:34.000 I'm going to shut up.

01:38:35.000 Matt Kazee is on the ground.

01:38:38.000 He's gone down to the area with the police near the shooting where they've got it cordoned off.

01:38:42.000 Matt, you're there in Blacksburg, Virginia at the campus.

01:38:45.000 Tell us what's happening.

01:38:47.000 Yes, I'm standing in the middle of about 200 police cars.

01:38:50.000 I'm right in front of the building where this happened, and you can tell it's all over, folks.

01:38:58.000 They've got it under control.

01:38:59.000 There's still some folks in the SWAT uniforms, a lot of sheriffs and a lot of state police, and not a kid to be seen.

01:39:06.000 A few folks down here videotaping, some folks wandering around the drill field, but that's about it.

01:39:13.000 It is pretty much That school is a giant black op, and it's at a 50% chance or higher. 0.77

01:39:20.000 Everybody's got to get their children out of there now.

01:39:22.000 Go ahead.

01:39:24.000 Well, it looks like they still may be treating some people over at the local rescue squad, which just happened to be a half a block away.

01:39:37.000 But as far as I can tell, they're allowing people... I'm going to try and get up as close as I can here.

01:39:43.000 What is a half block away?

01:39:45.000 Uh, the rescue squad.

01:39:47.000 No, they just hollered at me and said, get out of here. 0.99

01:39:50.000 Well, you know what?

01:39:52.000 You're a reporter.

01:39:53.000 Tell them you're a reporter with GCN Radio.

01:39:56.000 It's far enough away.

01:39:57.000 They're leaving me alone.

01:39:58.000 I'm close enough.

01:40:00.000 I was a little bit, getting a little bit too close there.

01:40:02.000 Can you go over by the triage center?

01:40:05.000 Now, now, now, are they bivouacked in an area?

01:40:07.000 Uh, bringing in the dead and wounded?

01:40:09.000 Or, or, or, uh, you say, uh, the rescue?

01:40:13.000 They've gotten most of them out of there.

01:40:14.000 We, I've got, uh, some pictures of them bringing some dead in where they were covered them, covered them up with sheets.

01:40:19.000 Uh, they loaded a bunch of people up on a bus, a city transit bus.

01:40:22.000 You got pictures, can you email those to Aaron?

01:40:24.000 I did, I did email some of the pictures that I have.

01:40:27.000 I believe that some of those are included and anything that I don't, as soon as I get done with this, I will email you guys.

01:40:32.000 What address did you email them to?

01:40:35.000 Aaron and Kevin.

01:40:37.000 That's fine.

01:40:38.000 Aaron's the place to send it.

01:40:39.000 Aaron at InfoWars.com.

01:40:42.000 Kevin doesn't work here anymore.

01:40:43.000 So, that is very, very important and I really do appreciate what you're doing, my friend.

01:40:49.000 You're just doing a fabulous job.

01:40:51.000 No problem at all.

01:40:52.000 I can't believe this happened in my backyard.

01:40:54.000 Well, now, again, it's kind of a rectangle-shaped building.

01:41:01.000 Where are you right now?

01:41:03.000 I'm directly in front of it.

01:41:05.000 Okay, what do you see window-wise?

01:41:07.000 Do you see any bullet damage?

01:41:08.000 How many windows are shot out?

01:41:10.000 Doesn't look like any.

01:41:13.000 I can see some open windows, but as far as... I do see something that looks like it's been shot out, or at least holes in it.

01:41:21.000 Sorry, it's pretty windy out here, Alex.

01:41:22.000 Okay, are you able to get a photo of that?

01:41:24.000 Are you using a digital camera?

01:41:25.000 No, I don't.

01:41:26.000 I do not have my camera on me, but I'm going to... I'm charging my video camera right now.

01:41:29.000 I'm coming back down here.

01:41:31.000 Oh, I'm getting... I can't go that way either.

01:41:34.000 I've got some friends down here who are videotaping too and I'm going to get a copy of that and post all that stuff on my website and I'll be sure to send you guys a link.

01:41:42.000 Tell us your website.

01:41:44.000 TheTruthMovement.net Oh, I know your site well!

01:41:48.000 Yeah, right on.

01:41:49.000 We've talked before.

01:41:50.000 Wow, what a small world.

01:41:52.000 I know.

01:41:52.000 It's crazy how it all works, isn't it?

01:41:55.000 Uh, yes, I'm directly in front of the chapel.

01:41:57.000 I'm standing here in front of a sheriff who's looking at me.

01:41:59.000 He's got, it looks like an assault rifle.

01:42:02.000 He is eyeballing me big time.

01:42:04.000 Well, tell him you're on a radio reporter.

01:42:06.000 I'm far enough away to where I don't, I don't want to talk to him anyway.

01:42:08.000 Uh, but, uh, I'm still close enough.

01:42:11.000 I'm way closer than the local media.

01:42:13.000 They're, they're way back there.

01:42:15.000 Well, yeah, they've been trained how to cower and follow orders.

01:42:18.000 Listen, listen, you need to get back immediately to your friends.

01:42:22.000 You need, as a group together, to go down there and you say, we are with GCN Radio Network and just say it confidently.

01:42:30.000 You know, they give you orders, follow them, but just be confident.

01:42:33.000 Smile at them and not in a smart way, but you know, just a nice little smile.

01:42:39.000 That's how to handle it.

01:42:40.000 Go get Uh, and I really appreciate you, man.

01:42:43.000 We got Larry Pratt coming up.

01:42:44.000 I want to get a few calls in.

01:42:45.000 Anything else, uh, uh, any other observations you've made, and then I'd like you to go back and get your camera, even if it's got only 20 minutes, get back up there and get the video now before they're able to cover anything up.

01:42:55.000 Yes, sir.

01:42:56.000 I will do that right now, and, uh, I appreciate you taking the call.

01:42:59.000 Sure.

01:42:59.000 Well, hold on.

01:42:59.000 As you're walking back, though, towards your, uh, towards your house or apartment, uh, is it a house or an apartment?

01:43:05.000 Uh, it is a house.

01:43:06.000 Okay, well as you're walking back to your house, just want to be accurate, keep giving us a report on basically any other things that come to mind, any other tidbits, anything you haven't told us about what's happened there locally with the previous shooting a few months ago and the drills and the new speakers they put in right in time for this national spectacle.

01:43:24.000 Well, they definitely did that, and this is the first time that they've used them.

01:43:27.000 And we're coming off of the hills of at least four bomb threats in the past week.

01:43:32.000 And actually, I take that back, it's more, five or six, because there were multiple bomb threats today in the very area where this was going on.

01:43:40.000 And it looks like there's a bunch of SWAT coming out of one of the side of the buildings right there, and they're walking off.

01:43:48.000 And everybody, you can tell that everybody It's much more relaxed now.

01:43:53.000 I'm walking back to the house.

01:43:54.000 I'm going to go get my video camera and grab some friends with some ditch cams.

01:43:58.000 Now let me ask you a question.

01:44:00.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:44:01.000 Sure, sure.

01:44:02.000 One last question.

01:44:04.000 Look, I'm talking to a radio show, GCN.

01:44:07.000 I'm a reporter for GCN and I'm just covering this.

01:44:12.000 I'm walking back to my house, which is right there.

01:44:16.000 Yes, sir.

01:44:18.000 He said I should get to my house and stay in my house.

01:44:22.000 Um... Yeah, they just want to cover things up.

01:44:24.000 Don't listen to that.

01:44:25.000 You live there.

01:44:26.000 You're with the press.

01:44:27.000 They haven't cordoned anything yet.

01:44:29.000 So get your cameras and get back over there and get some video.

01:44:32.000 Alright, I will do that and I'll call you guys back if I get anything.

01:44:36.000 Okay, the last question I had that I'd forgotten about with that cop coming over.

01:44:39.000 Let me try to bring it back up in memory.

01:44:41.000 Um, is um...

01:44:43.000 The drills?

01:44:44.000 Well, we'll talk about the drills, that's always important, how to use the drills as the cover.

01:44:48.000 But that's why these are so dangerous, folks.

01:44:50.000 We've always told you, drills are the cover for this.

01:44:52.000 Let's go back.

01:44:54.000 If you're having a lot of drills at your school or college, folks, it means you're a prime target.

01:44:58.000 We've told you this many times.

01:44:59.000 And again, we're not saying it's a black op, but in my gut, it's looking like that. 1.00

01:45:02.000 And we usually call it right 95% of the time.

01:45:06.000 I wish I was wrong.

01:45:07.000 Now go back.

01:45:08.000 This started at 7.15 this morning.

01:45:11.000 And it looks like that they didn't even announce until 11 central, noon your time, that it had basically been handled, like 12-15 your time, 7-15 to noon, is 3, 4, 5, 5 hours?

01:45:25.000 This went on 5 hours?

01:45:26.000 They couldn't stop?

01:45:27.000 They started the loudspeakers around 10 o'clock this morning.

01:45:31.000 Maybe just after 10.

01:45:33.000 That's a huge story!

01:45:34.000 Headline!

01:45:35.000 School didn't start warning loudspeakers for over 3 hours after shooting.

01:45:42.000 Eyewitness didn't start the new warnings.

01:45:45.000 This thing's a total... 3 hours?

01:45:47.000 Be specific.

01:45:47.000 Three hours?

01:45:48.000 Now, I mean, be specific.

01:45:50.000 Was it 10, 10, 15, 10, 30?

01:45:52.000 It was either 15 till 10 or 15 after 10.

01:45:55.000 It was coming in to 10 o'clock.

01:45:57.000 Because the first thing that I thought of when it happened was, I'm going to call into the show.

01:46:01.000 And I looked at the clock, and I knew it would be a few hours.

01:46:04.000 And it just got crazy.

01:46:05.000 So, Dead Reckoning, well, think back.

01:46:11.000 We need to be specific about this.

01:46:13.000 Think back to when you got up.

01:46:14.000 Did you look at alarm clocks?

01:46:16.000 Or what TV show were you watching?

01:46:17.000 Or whose show was on?

01:46:20.000 Give us a basic time.

01:46:22.000 What time did you hear the Big Brother telescreen? - Approximately around 10 o'clock.

01:46:30.000 Now it could have been 9 30 or something like that.

01:46:33.000 I will definitely be thinking I'm a little bit flustered from all this anyway.

01:46:36.000 I'm going to go over my mind and make sure but I know it was not seven o'clock.

01:46:41.000 That's for sure.

01:46:42.000 I'm thinking it was around approximately 10 o'clock.

01:46:45.000 I think that they started the alarms when the second shooting started.

01:46:50.000 So the guy got away from them.

01:46:54.000 They detained two people, but I heard that they let one of them go and they're still holding one for questioning.

01:47:01.000 And I think that they may have thought that they had it this morning, or for whatever reason, they didn't sound the alarms.

01:47:10.000 Or maybe not just on my side of the campus.

01:47:12.000 The first shooting was all the way across campus.

01:47:14.000 Well, they should have, the media should have been announcing this.

01:47:17.000 I mean, if somebody drops a stick of bubblegum on the ground, they'll shut down half the schools in Virginia or Texas.

01:47:23.000 You know, if there's a killer on the loose, or a convict on the loose, now, I mean, think about this, folks.

01:47:30.000 At least, let's be conservative, two hours after 7-15, I mean that's only 9-15, let's be conservative, for at least two hours they didn't use their news system, they didn't warn the media, they kept this thing real quiet.

01:47:44.000 I'm telling you this thing stinks like nothing I've ever smelled in the state of Denmark or Louisiana.

01:47:49.000 Well now Alex, I don't know if the media warned it because I was asleep at that time.

01:47:53.000 I'll go home and I'll find out right now from their website as to what time it got reported this morning.

01:47:59.000 I know the way, this is a very small community here.

01:48:02.000 This campus is exploding.

01:48:04.000 We're just bursting at the seams with too many people in this little small town.

01:48:09.000 And word travels fast, so I will go get the timeline down right now, I'll get my video camera charged up, and I'll head back down there.

01:48:16.000 Alright, call us back then in the next 20 minutes or so, my friend.

01:48:20.000 Alright, good to talk to you, Alex.

01:48:21.000 Thank you.

01:48:22.000 Okay, there goes Matt Kazee, and he runs Mergining and Rowing, it's a 9-11 site I visit every week, so just I love all these activists and media, new media people, independent media, alternative media, whatever your term is you like to use.

01:48:39.000 And my beautiful wife is looking through me to the broadcast window out there.

01:48:42.000 She's got some breaking news.

01:48:43.000 Come on in here.

01:48:44.000 What is it?

01:48:45.000 Oh, she's just waiting till I come off air.

01:48:47.000 Is it something hot?

01:48:49.000 Alright, but you can just run in here with it if you got it.

01:48:51.000 My wife's always done production for me, but she's doing it full time now. 0.98

01:48:54.000 So it's good to have her here on board with us.

01:48:58.000 Why don't you come on in there and come on the air?

01:49:01.000 Maybe later we'll have you on the air sometime.

01:49:03.000 Okay, fine.

01:49:04.000 Look at her smiling into the window.

01:49:05.000 It's hard for me not to get distracted.

01:49:09.000 Anyways, this is a horrible shooting.

01:49:14.000 What do you say?

01:49:14.000 I want to go to all your calls.

01:49:16.000 What I'll do is I'm going to come back from break and I'm just going to give each person about a minute.

01:49:19.000 You've been holding forever.

01:49:20.000 Richard, John, Bill, Chris, others.

01:49:24.000 Everybody that's holding.

01:49:25.000 And then we got Larry Pratt popping in just for about 10-15 minutes about victim disarmament.

01:49:29.000 This is what it leads to.

01:49:31.000 It's so weird.

01:49:32.000 I was on the University of Texas campus yesterday and every 100 yards or so, they got one of these poles that says, call police for help.

01:49:41.000 And I thought, man, if somebody was running around mugging somebody, I wouldn't run over and put the button and go, help me, help me, oh God!

01:49:48.000 Help me!

01:49:49.000 I've heard those 9-11 tapes.

01:49:50.000 They're like, he's gonna kill me!

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01:52:49.000 Ask for George.

01:52:50.000 I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind.

01:53:01.000 There was something so pleasant about that place.

01:53:06.000 Even your emotions haven't let go in so much space.

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01:53:31.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

01:53:34.000 Larry Pratt joins us, coming up in about five minutes.

01:53:37.000 Then Aaron Zellman.

01:53:38.000 Aaron Zellman.

01:53:39.000 I had remembered some controversy with Virginia Tech.

01:53:43.000 Virginia has a concealed carry.

01:53:44.000 Virginia Tech banned guns, brought in the federal law and state law.

01:53:50.000 There.

01:53:51.000 And they have brought on their hands, this is out of the Roanoke Times, April 13, 2005, Virginia Tech's gun ban on a made-law legal fire. 0.94

01:54:01.000 And they're murderers, folks. 0.98

01:54:02.000 They are murderers. 0.99

01:54:03.000 And it's not just the government murdering them in absentia or from an indirect way. 0.99

01:54:10.000 This thing has Black Op written all over it.

01:54:15.000 See, it's got this fog and all this confusion.

01:54:17.000 I don't know how to even explain it.

01:54:18.000 It's like, it becomes like an art form.

01:54:20.000 You just don't know how to look at it.

01:54:21.000 And, uh, it just, it reeks of black op. 0.99

01:54:27.000 Ugh, and then, it's just amazing.

01:54:28.000 I said I'd go to your calls.

01:54:29.000 Let's, uh, go to them.

01:54:31.000 And I got the big Rosie O'Donnell news I will spend some time on.

01:54:34.000 Uh, let's go to, um, Richard in Canada.

01:54:38.000 Richard, you're on the air.

01:54:39.000 Thanks for holding.

01:54:40.000 Hey, hey Alex, how are you doing?

01:54:41.000 This is Richard here.

01:54:42.000 I'm so happy to finally get in touch with you.

01:54:44.000 It's been a while and I just want to congratulate you.

01:54:47.000 You're a leader, brave, you're courageous.

01:54:50.000 I've watched all your documents and actually the funny thing is that when I was waiting on like this breaking news came but what I wanted to tell you was that I actually woke up last year because I am an international student here and I was pulled out of a bathroom stall By a police officer on campus and I was given no reason why and when I went back in to figure out why in the police station they basically told me they were doing their job and That was it.

01:55:18.000 I felt like all my rights were taken away and after that like I kind of woke up and This is why they love mass shootings, because it creates the fear, and now they're gonna have metal detectors and frisk and barbed wire, and the schools will be prisons, and they're shooting at businesses, their prisons shooting at the... It's everything's a prison now!

01:55:35.000 Terrorists attack an airport, we're prisoners there.

01:55:38.000 They attack a bus, now we gotta have searches, I mean it's just total control.

01:55:42.000 It is, and Alex, the funny thing is that I think it's already been done because, like, they knew where I was in that same bathroom, like, the week before.

01:55:49.000 Like, they told me what I was doing, and I was like, how do you know that?

01:55:52.000 And they couldn't even, man, they pulled me out of the stall.

01:55:55.000 They didn't even tell me who they were.

01:55:56.000 They took all my information.

01:55:58.000 They took my ID.

01:55:59.000 I felt so dehumanized, and I actually, I did get some recourse, because instead of going back to the people in authority, I went to the business department, and I told them what happened, and they got so worried because I threatened to go to the media.

01:56:12.000 And because they thought I would just sit down and take it, you know?

01:56:14.000 But that woke me up, and that's what we really are.

01:56:16.000 Well, you know why they knew what you were doing?

01:56:19.000 They've got video cameras in most bathrooms now at colleges and high schools and middle schools.

01:56:24.000 And a lot of times, they've got them in the showers, and the principals trade them amongst themselves.

01:56:29.000 That's been in the news.

01:56:30.000 Yeah, and you're totally right.

01:56:31.000 It's so funny to know that, like, everything's so controlled, yet so many things happen.

01:56:36.000 Look, if you're in a rest stop or a university or school, and you're on the commode, just know they're videotaping most of the time.

01:56:42.000 Definitely, and Alex, you're so right, because if they have so much, like, surveillance, how do all these things just appear out of the blue and happen, and they can't control it?

01:56:50.000 I mean... Well, notice England has...

01:56:52.000 You know, 14 million cameras just in the surrounding London area, four plus million in London, and that's like 50-something million nationwide.

01:57:00.000 You can go look the numbers up.

01:57:02.000 I'm going from memory there, but I know it's four and a half million in London.

01:57:05.000 That was a couple years ago.

01:57:06.000 It gets worse.

01:57:07.000 Now they have telescreens that shout orders at you in a child's voice, and their crime actually exploded with that.

01:57:14.000 This is so they can carry out their terror attacks and know who saw it and know who could expose them.

01:57:21.000 So I just want to congratulate you and one day you're going to reach a place that you know all your work is going to pay off and you're going to, people will wake up to what you're trying to say and keep up what you're doing and I'm not even from the states and I'm not from North America.

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01:59:36.000 The founder and head of Jewish Preservation of Firearms Ownership.

01:59:40.000 Larry Pratt, the man who leads Gunners of America, one of the few real Second Amendment organizations in the country, is our guest.

01:59:50.000 Larry Pratt, we've seen a great tragedy in Out of the Gates.

01:59:54.000 We know that Virginia Tech had a zero-gun policy and had invoked and brought in federal and state laws, even though Virginia had a concealed carry where you live.

02:00:03.000 and the blood is on their hands.

02:00:05.000 That is my take on it.

02:00:07.000 If this happened anywhere where people were able to have guns, this guy would have been blown away in short order.

02:00:13.000 Instead, this may be one of the biggest mass killings in U.S. history.

02:00:16.000 Alex, you're right on the money, And one of the sickening ironies of this tragedy is the Virginia Tech president who opposed legislation in the legislature this year that would have opened an exception for concealed carry permit holders to have guns on college campuses. 0.98

02:00:41.000 And let's explain something to that scumbag question. 0.99

02:00:43.000 Criminals and psychopaths are not going to follow the law. 1.00

02:00:48.000 All you do is endanger us, and I'm sick of it!

02:00:52.000 It's an amazing mindset that assumes that, well, we've said that it's going to be illegal to have a gun on the campus, and so therefore, what's your problem?

02:01:02.000 It's also illegal to kill 35 people!

02:01:06.000 Duh! 1.00

02:01:07.000 That one doesn't seem to connect to these guys and yet the president and I hope these words ring in his ears until the day he dies and preferably it'll be a long time that he spends not being the president of the university well the university is going to be much safer because today that bill died in committee He said that. 0.99

02:01:29.000 This very piece of trash said that. 0.97

02:01:31.000 Those are his very words. 1.00

02:01:33.000 He was convinced that he was making the university safe.

02:01:37.000 He hasn't learned anything from any of our history.

02:01:41.000 This is amazing!

02:01:42.000 We've got anti-gun activist university that's had two shooting sprees in less than a year on it, with cops and citizens getting blown away.

02:01:52.000 Listen, Larry, and I know, we've got to seize this.

02:01:54.000 One of the things to point out, and you're absolutely right, we must be on the offensive.

02:01:58.000 We're preparing a media statement that says that the problem at Virginia Tech was that there weren't enough guns.

02:02:02.000 to try to get gun control passed.

02:02:04.000 How do we do that, Larry Perrette?

02:02:05.000 One of the things to point out, and you're absolutely right, we must be on the offensive.

02:02:10.000 We're preparing a media statement that says that the problem at Virginia Tech was that there weren't enough guns.

02:02:17.000 The thing that we can remind these Jaspers of is that approximately two hours down the road, still in Virginia, in Grundy, Virginia, there's the Appalachian School of Law, which about four years ago was the scene of something rather similar.

02:02:35.000 A student, apparently both students, and we think that the shooter today is a student, go onto the campus.

02:02:45.000 First victim is a professor and obviously intentions of killing lots more.

02:02:51.000 At the first sounds of the gunshots, two of the law students went to their cars, which of course were off the campus as the law would require, because they had firearms in them.

02:03:03.000 They got their firearms.

02:03:05.000 They went to the scene of the crime and subdued the killer.

02:03:09.000 Saving perhaps another mass murder of the proportions that we witnessed today.

02:03:14.000 But there were none of those students today that were able to do that.

02:03:20.000 Another school shooting that ended rather prematurely from the shooter's point of view was in Pearl, Mississippi, where the assistant principal was able to go, similar scenario, get his gun, stop the shooter.

02:03:34.000 No, we've got to wait, like Columbine, four hours and fifteen minutes while the SWAT teams dress up in Darth Vader outfits and do absolutely nothing.

02:03:42.000 Well, let me just tell everybody something.

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02:06:57.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

02:07:21.000 Larry Pratt, the head of Gunners of America, joins us.

02:07:24.000 And it's hard for him to get a word in edgewise.

02:07:26.000 I'm so angry about all of this.

02:07:29.000 I'm tired of these people that come in here.

02:07:31.000 They've been running our country the last 40 years.

02:07:33.000 The control freaks.

02:07:36.000 You know, your children could play out on the street.

02:07:38.000 They could go out and play on the sidewalk or at the park without fear.

02:07:43.000 And because we have degenerated with the culture and there are a few more sickos out there, their answer is come take our guns.

02:07:49.000 And I've been around mainline liberals, folks, and I remember one time I was over at my dad's house when I was in college and one of his friends, the editor of a major magazine, I mean, editor of a national magazine, I'm not going to say which one, he's still there, You know, friends since I was a little kid was there, and my, for some reason, I was, oh yeah, I was storing my guns there because I was in, you know, college, and I just didn't have a whole bunch of them.

02:08:15.000 I was still in an apartment, but I didn't have all my guns in one spot.

02:08:17.000 Point is, I came home, was getting a rifle and a handgun, I was going out to the ranch to go do some shooting with friends, and I'm walking out of my parents' bedroom, and then out down the stairs to the living room, And I've got one in a gun case, and the other is in a little .357 Magnum pistol, you know, a little soft case.

02:08:39.000 And he goes, what is that?

02:08:41.000 And I said, it's a gun.

02:08:41.000 He went, oh!

02:08:43.000 And he was like leaning back on the couch, going, my God, my God!

02:08:46.000 But he'll see cops all day with machine guns, and he'll feel safe.

02:08:49.000 And I went, no, it's no big deal.

02:08:50.000 They're not loaded.

02:08:51.000 Oh, they always say that.

02:08:52.000 I went, no, no, no, no.

02:08:53.000 They're not loaded, the ammo's out in my car, but it's no big deal if they were.

02:08:57.000 I've been talking to them since I was a child.

02:08:59.000 My dad's like, it's alright, here, look, and he got it and unzipped it.

02:09:01.000 He goes, see, it's unloaded.

02:09:02.000 Look, he was going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

02:09:05.000 I mean, literally, oh, oh, like it was a king cobra had come in and it opened up its fan and was about to strike dripping venom.

02:09:13.000 Larry Pratt, how do we, now, of course, the government wants to disarm us, to enslave us and control us, but there really is a mass of people out there that just don't get it, Larry.

02:09:20.000 ...to a mindset that is very much a problem and is contributing to a worsening in our country of the perception of guns.

02:09:30.000 It's the zero tolerance, which it sounds like your editor friend may have been one of the originators of.

02:09:38.000 If you see a gun, wet your pants, suck your thumb, and just basically be immobile until the big brave man with his bulletproof vest gets there to save you.

02:09:50.000 It's the most incredible, unhelpless, save-me-from-myself kind of way of thinking.

02:09:56.000 And it's a very dangerous way of thinking, as we've just seen so sickeningly today at Virginia Tech.

02:10:03.000 One of the early accounts depicted something that was right out of Columbine.

02:10:08.000 Students were reported to have been cowering in their classrooms, under their desks, trying to do whatever they could to remain safe.

02:10:19.000 Well, the best thing they could have done to remain safe would have been to pull out a piece and go get the bum. 1.00

02:10:25.000 And because they were victim disarmed, they should have gone rampage to kick out the wire mesh, you know, like animals in a sinking ship clawing to get out.

02:10:35.000 They should have been up against the edge of the door.

02:10:37.000 The minute that person comes in, you just savagely attack them.

02:10:41.000 I mean, if you can't escape, you might as well fight. 0.98

02:10:43.000 If you're going to take a bullet, you might as well charge the piece of dirt because, well, you might take a bullet. 0.97

02:10:49.000 Duh. 1.00

02:10:50.000 And if you're not going to kneel down while they splatter your brains everywhere, you're going to probably take one in the gut of the shoulder and live, and then others are going to pile on and help you, and that son of a bitch, excuse my French, isn't going to be able to kill you. 1.00

02:11:02.000 Well, that would be what should happen. 0.99

02:11:05.000 It clearly didn't, and the sickening thing, the most sickening thing that I've heard so far, and I'm sure it'll be topped, but was a room full of people that this piece of dirt had gone into, Lined them up and they just stood there waiting to be shot from this early account.

02:11:21.000 I hope that's not true.

02:11:23.000 Absolute limbing behavior.

02:11:25.000 What has happened to Americans?

02:11:27.000 Once the most feared, upright, individualistic, aggressive people and they've turned us into literal jellyfish.

02:11:35.000 Well, I think the battle really lies there.

02:11:39.000 That friend that you so vividly described having his paroxysms of fear on the sofa in your parent's home.

02:11:48.000 By the way, I wasn't joking.

02:11:50.000 No, I'm quite sure that was quite accurate.

02:11:54.000 He probably decided that it was the last time he was going to go to Texas. 0.98

02:11:57.000 They're all nuts down there.

02:12:01.000 That's the world view that really plays into the hands of the disarmament crowd.

02:12:08.000 Well, I mean, back when I lived in an apartment, I'd go deer hunting a couple times a year and I'd, you know, and I learned to always even cover the case in a blanket because somebody will see a gun case and go, Now I know why hunters so typically go early in the morning.

02:12:25.000 When the sun comes up here I thought it was because that's the best time to surprise Bambi but actually it's because you have to sneak out to the car so none of the neighbors will see you.

02:12:36.000 I'm not kidding.

02:12:36.000 I mean, in a free country, even at my house, when I get a rifle out of the gun safe and go to the target range, and a lot of times, you know, they're in there not in cases, I'll grab, you know, my Remington 700, and I go out the back door, I look, I hit the open on the back of my trunk, I lay it in, I'm looking both ways, because, I mean, there's just cowardly jellyfish everywhere.

02:12:54.000 You know, I had a carpet cleaner at my house about eight, nine years ago, and I had a shotgun before I had children on an open rack up on the wall in my broadcast studio out of my house.

02:13:03.000 And it was just a cheap defender, pump action, you know, just for defense.

02:13:08.000 And the carpet cleaner guy goes, is that legal?

02:13:11.000 And I said, don't call the police on me.

02:13:14.000 And then later, I had a bad feeling and I called the carpet cleaning place and the owner got on and said, no, I know who you are, Alex, don't worry.

02:13:20.000 Yeah, he did come back.

02:13:22.000 He did want to call the police on you.

02:13:24.000 We explained that it was legal.

02:13:25.000 Well, I mean, they watch cop shows that are set in New York, where they always go, we found a gun in his house.

02:13:30.000 These people, they believe TV is the real world.

02:13:33.000 We found an arsenal, and they'll show you a picture of two or three guns, and that hardly cuts it for an arsenal in my book, but then one gun is an arsenal for these people.

02:13:45.000 As we're talking about this, the thought has crossed my mind, I am so blessed to have the luxury of an attached garage.

02:13:53.000 So that I can sneak my guns out into the garage, into the car, without having to draw attention to myself.

02:14:02.000 Pity the poor guy like you when you were that student in the apartment that had to leave an apartment and walk down who knows how many flights of stairs and how many hallways so that who knows how many people might see you and absolutely ruin their day.

02:14:18.000 And again they think all guns are illegal and then Handgun Control Incorporated sworn to dishonor the American people in the words of Sarah Brady so we can have quote socialism that is enforce it They have these billboards from Galveston, Texas to Kansas City, Missouri that show a revolver, and it says, Report Illegal Guns, but then when you read in real small print, it says, you know, Those Violating Gun Laws.

02:14:43.000 There's no law against having the revolver, but that's to brainwash the public for the perception it's illegal!

02:14:49.000 That is the part of the battle that we're fighting, and it's probably a more serious problem that we're fighting than the laws themselves.

02:14:59.000 If anything, we've seen modest progress at the state level where concealed carry laws have been passed and then expanded, where stand your ground legislation where you don't have to retreat not only in your house but now increasingly out on the street.

02:15:15.000 Those kinds of laws are very positive.

02:15:17.000 Also, you might consider that Utah and Oregon Are the only two states that presently have used a little bit of freedom that was allowed by the federal ban on guns at school.

02:15:28.000 How do we get back to the point where my dad could, because you know, his mother would, when she was a school teacher, she was teaching at different schools and when he was at, you know, they would drive him to one spot where the bus would come pick him up in the country, but they go into a pretty big, you know, country school and they would just walk right in larry with their shotguns and their and their and their rounds their shotgun shells and they put them right in their school locker and A lot of times they go with the coaches or the principal down hunting

02:15:54.000 But they just all walked in there and during bird season with their guns into the public school I mean now you're in the country walking down the side of the road with a shotgun a cop will pull over and ask what you're doing What happened to us?

02:16:05.000 yours was a kind of an upscale school I I've talked to a number of people that didn't have the lockers.

02:16:11.000 They just put them in the cloakroom alongside of or behind the classroom.

02:16:15.000 So it was quite open.

02:16:17.000 It wasn't anybody's personal locker at all.

02:16:19.000 Anybody could have walked in there and gotten the gun. 0.96

02:16:21.000 And somehow, not only did the gun not go off by itself, but none of the kids went in there and did anything stupid with it. 0.93

02:16:28.000 Now the difference was, though, when you were being taught gun safety, if you did anything that wasn't the total gun safety, you'd get the hell beat out of you. 0.97

02:16:35.000 They'd holler your head off for starters. 0.99

02:16:37.000 You knew that you were in big trouble if you did anything stupid with the gun. 1.00

02:16:42.000 You feared what the Rangemaster or your dad or whoever was going to do to you a lot more than whatever might possibly be done with that gun. 0.99

02:16:52.000 You knew that something was going to happen right away if you were careless.

02:16:57.000 So people obviously learned.

02:17:00.000 It's a pretty good way to learn.

02:17:02.000 And, golly, we've had members tell us about their trips to the shooting range at school in New York City, taking their cased rifles onto the subway in New York City.

02:17:15.000 Now, if you think that the guy in the country is going to have trouble walking with his gun today, imagine trying to go to school.

02:17:22.000 Well, first of all, they don't have those shooting ranges in operation anymore, but imagine what would happen.

02:17:28.000 They'd probably close off every exit.

02:17:30.000 Uh, of one of those, uh, subways, uh, if somebody were reported to be doing that.

02:17:35.000 Now notice how they take the gun ranges away and the schools and suddenly all the shootings start.

02:17:39.000 Larry, let's get down to brass tacks.

02:17:40.000 I don't know about this case, but there's definitely been some fishy stuff at Columbine and, and other places where it looks like government's provocateur-ing are involved.

02:17:49.000 Well, there was a massive cover-up of the incompetence of the Sheriff's Department in Jefferson County, which is Columbine, out in Colorado, in the Denver suburbs.

02:18:00.000 So, in fact, it got to be so bad that the Sheriff was not re-elected.

02:18:04.000 And we keep finding out things that he was trying to cover up just to make his incompetence look like it wasn't so bad.

02:18:11.000 There were plenty of warnings ahead of time that were neglected.

02:18:15.000 And then when the officers got there, there was confusion.

02:18:19.000 It was kind of risk aversion.

02:18:22.000 You know, don't have a cop put himself in any risk at all.

02:18:26.000 So they just waited until everybody was dead and then they went in.

02:18:31.000 30, 40 years ago, because I've studied the cases, you couldn't stop police from charging in after a gunman.

02:18:36.000 And that was the impulse, I think, of a lot of the officers there, but they were told, stand down.

02:18:42.000 And that's what was so terrible about it, and I think that was part of the odor that got rid of them.

02:18:46.000 Yeah, they're trying to breathe the manhood out of us. 0.87

02:18:48.000 We'll be right back with Larry Pratt.

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02:22:49.000 We've got Mac Rezeves with 9-11 Truth. 0.61

02:23:09.000 In Blacksburg, Virginia, he lives on the campus.

02:23:11.000 He's already been down there for us with a live report with the SWAT teams and people telling him to get back.

02:23:16.000 He went further than the media.

02:23:17.000 He's back there now.

02:23:18.000 We're about to go to him on cell phone.

02:23:19.000 Larry Pratt at GunOwners.org.

02:23:22.000 Larry, how do we, in a nutshell, get on the offensive and get the truth out that it, again, is victim disarmament in action and that the school needs to be held accountable instead of turning every university in the country into little prison camps?

02:23:36.000 Well, one thing that Gun Owners of America is set up to do is of course provide a voice for grassroots activism.

02:23:42.000 We have on our website gunowners.org an email alert system and I can assure you that shortly we're going to be renewing Our campaign to end this senseless, dangerous, reckless kind of legislation that's on the books right now that prohibits people from defending themselves.

02:24:01.000 It's okay to defend yourself in most states if you have a concealed carry permit and you're in a 7-11, but God help you if you're on a school grounds.

02:24:09.000 That's nuts to assume that somehow... Those are the targets!

02:24:13.000 Now Larry...

02:24:15.000 I've read the different policies and basically if a shooter is even in the school, they lock down.

02:24:20.000 That's going to result sometime in 100 plus dead, not just 32 as they're now reporting.

02:24:25.000 How do we reverse that insane stance of we lock the children in like it's fish in a barrel?

02:24:32.000 The whole concept, as we were talking about earlier, is rooted in, if you do nothing, you'll be okay.

02:24:38.000 If you have no defense, that's a good defense.

02:24:41.000 They're brainwashing us!

02:24:42.000 You just lay there and take it to go to the FEMA camps, basically.

02:24:46.000 Just to lie there and take it, no matter what is happening, whether it's government abuse or whether it's a thug like the one at the Virginia Tech campus.

02:24:55.000 Thank God at Appalachian School of Law that there were a couple of students who were willing and able to do something.

02:25:01.000 By the way, one of the things that we should emphasize is the media doesn't like to report the good things that can happen such as the Appalachian School of Law where students with guns Actually stopped the killing.

02:25:15.000 They were convinced in the media, we know from one Associated Press editor, oh well, if we start telling people about those young men introducing guns into an already dangerous situation, why that would just be reckless to report that.

02:25:28.000 And so they didn't report it.

02:25:29.000 There's a literal, I don't even want to call them effeminate men, because women will stand up and fight a lot of times. 1.00

02:25:34.000 These aren't even, I don't know what to call them. 0.98

02:25:37.000 These are these chicken-necked Cowardly little twits who never lived in the real world, who live in these little pampered high-rises, I guess, in the big cities, and they want us to all be a bunch of cowards like them, and I'm sorry, it's just not going to happen. 0.97

02:25:53.000 Well, and we know what happens in England after they ban guns there and they have a murder rate and a violent crime rate that shoots off the charts. 0.98

02:26:00.000 The response is, oh, well, we need to ban knives and we need to ban replica guns.

02:26:06.000 And you can just see them adding to the list of banned items as if, well, the criminals didn't cooperate in getting rid of the guns in England.

02:26:15.000 In fact, there's twice the number of illegal guns there now.

02:26:18.000 And their crime rates exploded.

02:26:20.000 That's the UN's own numbers.

02:26:21.000 Absolutely correct.

02:26:23.000 That is the source of that.

02:26:24.000 The worst of all 18 industrialized countries in the U.N.

02:26:29.000 study, England.

02:26:30.000 The highest violent crime rate.

02:26:32.000 Worst of the United States.

02:26:33.000 Larry Pratt, check in with us tomorrow if you can, briefly.

02:26:36.000 Sher, give out the website.

02:26:37.000 Gunowners.org is the place to go for the action, folks, and hopefully you'll do that, because we'll be sending out an alert on this soon enough.

02:26:44.000 And it's clear that we've got to mobilize.

02:26:46.000 This is going to be the starting gun, pun intended, for a new attack on the Second Amendment.

02:26:51.000 Absolutely, and I'm glad you've triggered our defense if you'll let me continue that line of discussion.

02:26:57.000 Well, God bless you, sir.

02:26:58.000 We really appreciate you, and we'll talk to you tomorrow, sir.

02:27:01.000 Godspeed.

02:27:02.000 Thank you.

02:27:02.000 There goes Larry Pratt.

02:27:03.000 Okay, let's go to Matt Kazee.

02:27:06.000 We'll have Jack Blood popping in briefly, too, if he can, in the next segment.

02:27:09.000 Then we've got Aaron Zellman coming on, JPFO.org.

02:27:12.000 Matt Kazee is a 9-11 Truth-er, runs a powerful 9-11 Truth website, lives on the campus.

02:27:17.000 He's marched back down there, this time with a video camera.

02:27:19.000 We've got some of the photos he sent us up on JonesReport.com right now.

02:27:22.000 He's going to be sending us more.

02:27:24.000 Matt, they're reporting 4G, CNN, radio.

02:27:27.000 What exactly are you seeing now?

02:27:29.000 Well, actually, I haven't gotten all the way down there.

02:27:32.000 I had to charge my camera, but what I do have is a timeline, and that is a very important thing with this.

02:27:37.000 By 9 o'clock this morning, people who were getting to work on campus were immediately told what was going on.

02:27:43.000 The alert email went out at 955, I believe, is when they sounded the alarm.

02:27:51.000 Okay, an alert email at what time?

02:27:56.000 955.

02:27:56.000 955, and where are you getting this timeline?

02:27:59.000 I've got a copy of the emails that were sent out across the campus.

02:28:03.000 Do me a favor, send that immediately to AaronInfoWars.com.

02:28:07.000 You are the best.

02:28:09.000 Right on, no problem at all.

02:28:11.000 All the most important thing that I found out was the bomb threats, Friday the 13th.

02:28:15.000 The bomb threats were at Torgerson, Durham, and Whittemore Halls.

02:28:20.000 There's always Satanism and Nazism tied into these. 0.79

02:28:24.000 Columbine, the little ADL controlled, he fits that M.O.

02:28:30.000 Well, that was a fellow up in Minnesota.

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02:32:45.000 All right, we're going to finish up with our man on the ground, who I want to give us a report at the very end of the show again if he can.

02:32:50.000 He's about to march.

02:32:51.000 He's right on campus.

02:32:52.000 He went up there and he heard the police told him to get back.

02:32:54.000 He went hundreds of yards past the media right up to the place where the shootings happened.

02:32:59.000 He was trying to get more video and photos of the bullet holes and the damage.

02:33:03.000 The cops are trying obviously to control their crime scene and not have that be seen.

02:33:07.000 But he's not in the crime scene.

02:33:08.000 He's up there trying to get documentation of it.

02:33:10.000 He's going up there with another team.

02:33:11.000 He's a known 9-11 truther.

02:33:13.000 Uh, he does a great job.

02:33:16.000 And uh, he's Matt Kazee.

02:33:17.000 Then we've got Larry, well we just had Larry Pratt on the Gun Owners of America.

02:33:21.000 Uh, Aaron Zellman of Fugitive Preservation of Firearms Ownership, who's already been all over this victim disarmament school.

02:33:27.000 Um, he's here to let everybody know who is the real uh, accomplices to this, and it's the school, it's the system, it's the victim disarmament crowd who must be defeated, ladies and gentlemen.

02:33:38.000 And we have the majority of Americans, we have the Constitution, we have the Bill of Rights, we've been winning the fight, at least for the hearts and minds, but the government's been kind of going underground with its attack on the Second Amendment, and doing it covertly now, but more than ever.

02:33:48.000 So to give us an update, here's Aaron Zellman.

02:33:51.000 Of course, Jack Blythe's got some new developments.

02:33:52.000 The talk show comes on right after me.

02:33:54.000 He's going to be popping in here in just a second.

02:33:57.000 But going back to Matt on the ground right now in Blacksburg, Virginia, as this unfolds.

02:34:06.000 Matt, you've got the timeline.

02:34:07.000 You have the internal school emails.

02:34:09.000 Because you're part of the school there.

02:34:11.000 You've got these.

02:34:12.000 You're sending them right now to AaronInfoWars.com.

02:34:14.000 We'll get those into the article that Paul Watson, Steve Watson, and Aaron Dykes that works here are all working together as a team on.

02:34:21.000 Right now they'll be out on PrisonPlanet.com, the definitive analysis of this within the next hour.

02:34:26.000 But please continue.

02:34:28.000 You said you have the timeline.

02:34:29.000 Can you read us that email and then can you go through what you now know about some of the things you're trying to say?

02:34:36.000 Well, Alex, to end the break, I've got my camera, what was charged up on, and I'm heading down there.

02:34:40.000 I'm almost there right now.

02:34:42.000 Were you able to send us the email first?

02:34:44.000 I was not able to send the email, but I'm going to send that as soon as I walk through the door.

02:34:49.000 Excellent job.

02:34:50.000 Okay.

02:34:52.000 I'm right down here at the scene right now.

02:34:53.000 What I did find out was that the bomb threats that had the second of the two last week that happened on Friday the 13th, it happened at the buildings that were surrounding the building where the shooting was.

02:35:06.000 Which I thought that was before, early during the week too.

02:35:15.000 I'm actually walking to, it has cleaned out a lot since the last time I was down here.

02:35:21.000 So just in roughly 40 minutes, you were down there and SWAT teams were coming out and they were still milling around.

02:35:27.000 There were officers everywhere.

02:35:28.000 What do you see there now at the main shooting area?

02:35:32.000 Not half as many people standing outside.

02:35:34.000 The vehicles are still here.

02:35:36.000 I'm walking through with my video camera right now.

02:35:39.000 Now, have they hauled out the 32 dead bodies, or are they... Yes, they did.

02:35:45.000 So they just started that crime scene, alright.

02:35:47.000 Well, I mean, they obviously tried to resuscitate some of them, but that's still... Some of the dead people are obviously dead, shouldn't have been moved.

02:35:53.000 Well, I'm sure I'm not sure about all of the dead people, but I saw them removing a lot of people.

02:35:58.000 There were some people getting pointed at because I got a camera here.

02:36:01.000 He's telling me to get to the other side.

02:36:05.000 But making famous right here anyway.

02:36:11.000 It looks like they did pull out some dead.

02:36:13.000 I saw some people with sheets over top of their heads when they were coming out.

02:36:16.000 They took them to the local rescue squad.

02:36:18.000 And then various ambulances took them to the hospital.

02:36:21.000 And then they did bring in a couple of buses.

02:36:23.000 Some of them... They did fill up a bus to some degree with wounded people.

02:36:33.000 There are 17...

02:36:34.000 Well, I'll tell you what, Matt.

02:36:36.000 You're multitasking.

02:36:37.000 Keep the phone on, but just put it in your pocket.

02:36:40.000 And then start trying to get some footage, because you're multitasking.

02:36:43.000 And we're going to go back to you in about 10 minutes.

02:36:45.000 Can you stay on the line, Matt?

02:36:49.000 No problem.

02:36:49.000 Okay, we're going to come right back to you.

02:36:51.000 Now, I've got to go to Aaron Zellman here quickly, but Jack Blood has been watching and tracking this.

02:36:55.000 Within 20 minutes of this news breaking, he told me, and I hope we get tape of this, Fox News is already calling for gun control.

02:37:02.000 The bastion of conservatism now backing Hillary.

02:37:05.000 We broke it here first three years ago, now been public the last year.

02:37:08.000 They're really behind the Hillary campaign.

02:37:10.000 Pure evil neocons.

02:37:13.000 Jack Blood, what's going on there?

02:37:15.000 Well, right now we've just got breaking news, Alex, that this is the work of an Asian man in his 20s, heavily armed, wearing a vest, looking for his girlfriend, according to Fox News.

02:37:25.000 By the way, Fox News, the bastion of phony conservative news, 20 minutes after this story hit the wire, was already having their pundits on, calling for gun control.

02:37:37.000 Absolutely amazing.

02:37:38.000 And, you know, I think one of the biggest things here is the two-hour time lapse at 8 a.m.

02:37:44.000 students and one in particular, Amy Knote, who's a freshman from Martinsville, talking about knocking on the door at 8 a.m.

02:37:52.000 There's a two-hour lapse between then and when students were actually alerted that this was happening.

02:37:59.000 Let's be clear.

02:37:59.000 They know this guy's going around killing people at 7 in the morning, and then it's 9.57, 9.55, excuse me, when the email goes, goes out almost two hours later.

02:38:12.000 This is unbelievable. - She goes on, Alex, to say they had us under lockdown.

02:38:16.000 They temporarily lifted the lockdown, and the gunman shot again.

02:38:20.000 There also have been some rumors, we're trying to substantiate, that the shooter could have some Muslim ties or could himself be locked. - Well, we saw the last guy who was Muslim from Central Asia shooting a bunch of people in a mall, and that was shut down really quick.

02:38:37.000 Alex, I have a ton of coverage on this.

02:38:39.000 We're going to continue the coverage live on GCN, continually following the story.

02:38:43.000 I invite your listeners to join us, to call into the program, and to give us any analysis or any news that they have by monitoring the cable news outlets.

02:38:51.000 We'll do that, Jack, and I'll call in as you're doing that if anything else develops that you don't catch.

02:38:55.000 Thank you for the help.

02:38:56.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:38:56.000 Great job.

02:38:57.000 You bet.

02:38:58.000 I think we've got a big story coming out on this.

02:38:59.000 Aaron Zellman, I meant to get into a bunch of big 9-11 developments today, and we'll do that before the show ends, but I appreciate you coming on on such short notice and holding during our eyewitness account, and then Jack has been covering things.

02:39:11.000 It's JPFO.org.

02:39:13.000 God bless you, sir.

02:39:14.000 Thanks for being here.

02:39:15.000 My pleasure.

02:39:17.000 I notice, as usual, you're on top of things years before.

02:39:19.000 You have attacked the head of this university for victim disarmament.

02:39:23.000 You have said it's a disaster waiting to happen.

02:39:26.000 You have written about it.

02:39:26.000 You have covered it.

02:39:27.000 You emailed us with a lot of documents and news articles back from 2005 when you were exposing this.

02:39:33.000 So I guess here you tried to save some people.

02:39:36.000 And would you say that the people that disarmed the victims there are at least accessories to manslaughter?

02:39:44.000 The blood is definitely on their hands, and they really don't seem to care very much.

02:39:51.000 They're going to find a way to whitewash it.

02:39:55.000 That would not surprise me at all, if that happens.

02:39:58.000 In the state of Virginia, you are allowed to get a concealed carry permit.

02:40:04.000 So I'm assuming that the Virginia University said, well, students can't have guns on campus.

02:40:12.000 Yes, I have a news article right here out of the Roanoke newspaper.

02:40:16.000 Virginia Tech's ban on guns may draw legal fire.

02:40:19.000 Some people question whether the university has the authority to ban the carrying of firearms.

02:40:26.000 So the blood is on the hands of everybody in the administration of that university, and I hope they get sued into oblivion.

02:40:26.000 Well, there you go.

02:40:36.000 I hope their lives are destroyed for allowing someone to come in there and murder American students. 0.98

02:40:43.000 I have no sympathy for anybody who works at a university administration level who thinks that they're an elitist, or who believes they are, who doesn't think that the little peons, the students, have a right to defend their life. 1.00

02:40:57.000 These people should be put against a wall and executed.

02:41:01.000 Well, that's what they certainly did by fiat to these students. 0.99

02:41:06.000 Absolutely, and I think that this is a... I think that there's some other strange things about this.

02:41:11.000 As you know, the Parker decision In Washington, D.C.

02:41:14.000 had to do with people being able to have a gun in their home to defend their life.

02:41:19.000 Notice how this is... Notice how this... I think we're on the same wavelength.

02:41:23.000 But you see, there's also been calls in Congress for more gun control schemes.

02:41:29.000 H.R.

02:41:30.000 1022, oddly enough, is the name of the bill, number of the bill.

02:41:34.000 So all of a sudden you have people pushing gun control, you have people reacting to something favorable about gun ownership, and then you have this tragedy.

02:41:42.000 It really smells to me.

02:41:44.000 Remember Columbine?

02:41:45.000 They were having the NRA convention a month later.

02:41:47.000 They just had the big gun control convention in New Orleans.

02:41:50.000 We were winning the fight.

02:41:51.000 And then that thing, I mean, that clearly had some type of black op involved. 0.88

02:41:55.000 When you look at Columbine, they brought 120-plus bombs, some of them weighing over 100 pounds into the building.

02:42:03.000 We saw it all at lunch.

02:42:04.000 Half the school wasn't there that day.

02:42:06.000 The son of an FBI agent founds the group.

02:42:08.000 Harris and Klebold make a school movie about how they're going to kill everybody.

02:42:11.000 They run the school's internet.

02:42:12.000 The SWAT team waits four hours and 15 minutes to go in.

02:42:15.000 Well, I think that's my part of it.

02:42:18.000 If you think about it, there was a situation, some of this in Canada not too long ago, and a couple of years ago in Australia, which started a big push for gun control in Australia.

02:42:28.000 Yeah, Tasmania.

02:42:30.000 And so, I uh, this thing just smells for me.

02:42:34.000 I'm urging every gun owner to just dig their heels in and say, hell no.

02:42:38.000 Hey listen, we gotta get on the offensive.

02:42:41.000 We've got to get on the offensive.

02:42:41.000 I agree.

02:42:42.000 Everyone, call every talk show today, and let's get the United Front Out headline.

02:42:47.000 Everybody write your own emails, your own blogs, your own MySpaces.

02:42:51.000 The people that had this be a zero-gun school, even after they'd had another big public shooting a few months ago there, and they just put in loudspeakers and all this weird stuff, and they had drills at the very building that got attacked earlier this week.

02:43:06.000 I mean, Aaron, this thing stinks to high heaven like a beasel on deal.

02:43:10.000 You know, we know now Putin pulled that off.

02:43:12.000 I think that every one of your listeners has to make a commitment to themselves.

02:43:17.000 Any politician who supports gun control schemes must have their career aborted.

02:43:24.000 No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

02:43:26.000 Aaron Zelman, continue with your analysis on what's happened here.

02:43:30.000 Well, I think, again, as we've been talking about from what little I know based on some of the information on the Internet,

02:43:36.000 that you have a situation where uh... apparently an Asian student that they claim he's Asian uh... went in there looking for his girlfriend uh... had some kind of personal issue going on according to the article I read he lined students up and systematically murdered them one at a time uh... so we have a situation here where again students were left defenseless because of the dictates of the people who run the school and uh...

02:44:05.000 If justice is ever going to be done, the president of this university has to go to prison.

02:44:11.000 Nothing less than that.

02:44:13.000 Would you put your son or daughter, and this isn't just a question for Aaron, but I wanted to answer it, in a place where you know it's a target of nutballs or government ops or anything else, where you knew they couldn't defend themselves?

02:44:25.000 No, I would not.

02:44:26.000 There is a problem here, though.

02:44:28.000 There's a lot of university campuses that don't allow students to carry weapons.

02:44:32.000 No, I know.

02:44:35.000 You know, we're rockin' a hard place.

02:44:37.000 If you want your kid to go to college, what do you do?

02:44:40.000 You can't homeschool them at that point.

02:44:43.000 So this is a situation where everybody listening has got to decide that if they have kids in school, can't defend themselves, it's time to do something about the administration of that school.

02:44:54.000 Absolutely.

02:44:55.000 And for these people to retire on a fat pension, they have to go. 1.00

02:44:59.000 Bottom line here, You smell a giant stinking rat. 0.99

02:45:04.000 You think this is suspicious? 0.93

02:45:06.000 Even Rush Limbaugh said years ago, I heard him, you know, it's always perfect timing right when they get ready for a new gun push.

02:45:12.000 There'll be a screen.

02:45:13.000 There'll probably be a bunch of copycats now. 1.00

02:45:16.000 Oh, I have no doubt about it. 0.95

02:45:17.000 I think this thing really stinks.

02:45:19.000 I think the Parker decision really got them going because if you listen to what the gun haters have been saying, they're in shock that somehow the government's going to recognize That gun ownership is an individual right, not a collective right.

02:45:35.000 Well, Aaron, we've real conservative, I don't mean the fake George Bush conservative listeners, but real conservative issues of Second Amendment, border control, anti-abortion, pro-life.

02:45:46.000 We're in polls gaining feet every day.

02:45:50.000 Now that doesn't mean the government's moving, but they see us moving, and yeah, they're panicking, Aaron.

02:45:55.000 Absolutely.

02:45:56.000 I think you're going to see more situations like this.

02:45:59.000 And so I'm telling people, dig your heels in, get prepared.

02:46:03.000 Things are going to get dicey.

02:46:05.000 Remember Alex, a couple years ago I told you, you laughed at me, but I said, don't be surprised if there are not elections, presidential elections.

02:46:16.000 Let's just see what happens.

02:46:18.000 Just put it on the back burner and let it simmer.

02:46:21.000 No, I wasn't lying.

02:46:22.000 That might have been another host.

02:46:23.000 All right, okay.

02:46:24.000 Aaron, you might have... I mean, I know you were... Are you kidding?

02:46:26.000 I write articles about... Ron Paul's on the show last week.

02:46:29.000 Ron Paul said they're gearing up for martial law right now.

02:46:32.000 Of course.

02:46:33.000 So I wouldn't plan on elections.

02:46:35.000 I think all this is just bread and circuses.

02:46:39.000 What, you think it's just going to crescendo and build?

02:46:42.000 Well, if they can make it happen.

02:46:44.000 That's why I think your listeners have got to get ready.

02:46:47.000 They've got to have their wits about them.

02:46:49.000 Well, everybody feels it.

02:46:50.000 I mean, all the old-timers talked about the New World Order building up, but now we see all the things they talked about happening, brother.

02:46:57.000 Well, I think it's more than just the New World Order.

02:46:59.000 I think it's really a matter of people have just become too comfortable with the government.

02:47:06.000 I was reading an article this morning.

02:47:08.000 52% of the people in the United States have money coming from the government.

02:47:14.000 Federal government, one way or another.

02:47:15.000 52% of the American people.

02:47:19.000 Yeah, I don't have a red shirt coming from them.

02:47:22.000 So, well, they're also including people on Social Security and things of that nature, but... or dependents.

02:47:30.000 So 52% of the American people have got a warm, fuzzy feeling about the government.

02:47:34.000 And another 10% are in the criminal justice system, so they've got us one way or another.

02:47:38.000 Aaron Zellman, give us the website.

02:47:42.000 JPFO.org.

02:47:44.000 And you'll learn more about our efforts to destroy the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

02:47:49.000 And that's going to be important with this new push for gun control.

02:47:52.000 Well, listen, I want to get you up for a full hour in the next few days, so let my producer call you so we can really walk through this so we can take some calls as well.

02:47:58.000 Aaron Zellman, thank you for spending time with us.

02:48:01.000 My pleasure, Alex.

02:48:01.000 Be well.

02:48:02.000 Take care.

02:48:02.000 You bet.

02:48:03.000 Well, there's Aaron Zellman thinking it's probably an inside job.

02:48:06.000 And Larry Pratt said there's some things that are suspicious as well.

02:48:10.000 And drills and all these things.

02:48:12.000 I mean, this thing.

02:48:15.000 I think you're going to find out this guy was under psychiatric care.

02:48:18.000 You're going to find out.

02:48:19.000 And God, if he is a Muslim, folks, that's the kickoff. 1.00

02:48:24.000 And there's a slight chance it could just be a nut or a real Muslim terrorist. 0.99

02:48:28.000 There are real things that happen that aren't the government. 0.97

02:48:30.000 There are few and far between.

02:48:32.000 And I've said real terrorist attacks do look like this, where somebody goes in and stabs 15 people or shoots 45 people.

02:48:40.000 And I've told you that of the four types of terrorism, There's really three, but there's one subset.

02:48:46.000 There's one form that's real organic, and then this could be that.

02:48:49.000 But it sounds like a guy throwing a fit with his girlfriend.

02:48:52.000 But in all the other cases, they're on drugs, they're in psychiatric care, their parents are feds, they've been at weird bases, or they were military troops in weird mind control programs.

02:49:02.000 Remember the guy, Larry Ashbrook?

02:49:06.000 I'm going from memory on that.

02:49:08.000 In 1998, I was at 99 in Fort Worth and it was 98.

02:49:14.000 Went in and he shot a bunch of people.

02:49:18.000 And he'd been calling the police department.

02:49:19.000 He'd been in the Navy.

02:49:20.000 He'd been in secret operations.

02:49:21.000 He got out and he would like write to an editor and go, look, I'm under mind control.

02:49:25.000 I'm not schizophrenic.

02:49:26.000 And the neighbors saw guys dragging him and put him in a van.

02:49:29.000 I mean, it wasn't just that he was a lot of schizophrenics out there.

02:49:32.000 He really was under their control.

02:49:35.000 He went to Baptist Church.

02:49:37.000 And then he lined them up and they just groveled.

02:49:40.000 And he said, you know, do you believe in Jesus?

02:49:42.000 Boom.

02:49:42.000 Yes.

02:49:43.000 Same thing with the Columbine deal.

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02:52:53.000 Well, the Rosie O'Donnell breaking inside report we put out about what she's planning to do, having first responders on with the dust, and talk about 9-11 later.

02:53:03.000 What about a huge report today, and it's still going to be big, make sure that we don't stop talking about Alberto Gonzalez and the firing gate and all the crimes he's involved in.

02:53:11.000 Make sure we don't stop talking about how they want to go into Iran.

02:53:14.000 Make sure we continue to push 9-11 truth, no matter how many mass shootings the feds orchestrate, no matter how many copycats that causes.

02:53:23.000 We're going to expose this mass shooting thing as well.

02:53:25.000 We're going to have the Defendant Report, that is the Defendant Preliminary, on mass shootings and the past staged events with all the questions surrounding this out very soon on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.net.

02:53:38.000 So watch that space, watch that channel, and help us get that out.

02:53:43.000 You, the listeners, are the reason we're having an effect.

02:53:45.000 You, the listeners, are the reason we're able to reach people.

02:53:47.000 But Rosie prepares to strike back for 9-11 truth. 1.00

02:53:51.000 Insider scoop, Ground Zero heroes impacted by toxic dust cover up to appear on The View tomorrow, their schedule.

02:53:57.000 We'll see if that happens.

02:53:58.000 A headline on the Drudge Report today reads, Rosie no more, impeach Bush talk on The View.

02:54:04.000 She said on there that she'll just be screaming inside for now on her site, but that's not really what we've got.

02:54:09.000 We've got the inside, we've talked to her, we've got the email, we've got her inside people as well.

02:54:15.000 And it goes on to say, we know that these other things include government's criminal cover-up of the Ground Zero toxic dust scandal, killing 9-11 heroes.

02:54:22.000 Rosie is reportedly sick and tired of the very parties who covered up the toxic dust scandal, then claiming the mantle of 9-11 victims in order to smear anyone who asked questions about the events of that day.

02:54:33.000 McDonnell is aware of the fact that the majority of the victim's family members now believe there is an ongoing cover-up surrounding 9-11.

02:54:41.000 As a result, several Ground Zero first responders are to be interviewed on The View with the first being broadcast on Tuesday morning.

02:54:49.000 This is the beginning of a carefully planned course of attack to counter the threats and censorship being employed by neocon talking heads to stifle 9-11 truth.

02:54:58.000 There's also somebody inside the system stifling her Uh, and it goes on.

02:55:03.000 This information comes from multiple sources within O'Donnell's inner circle, as well as a prominent member of the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:55:09.000 O'Donnell should be applauded once again for having the courage to stand up for the truth in the face of the orchestrated establishment witch hunt, as well as the neocon producer at ABC who is acting as a gatekeeper in trying to prevent the information from being broadcast.

02:55:22.000 This is all inside stuff you're getting, ladies and gentlemen.

02:55:25.000 This is an overwhelming slap in the face the establishment media bullies who thought that their attempts to incriminate and intimidation and chilling free speech could shut Rosie up and prevent 9-11 from, uh, cover up from enjoying maximum exposure.

02:55:38.000 And it goes on to how she really woke up, when she woke up, what film made her wake up, how delays attacking her, and then we get into the latest 9-11 hoax out of Pravda claiming that Imus was fired because of you going public about 9-11 truth.

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02:56:40.000 That was great.

02:56:42.000 So get some of those while you're at it, and get the word out, because they're going to use terrorism, they're going to use mass shootings that they create, they provocateur, that they misrepresent with victims they've disarmed.

02:56:52.000 Either way, the government did this.

02:56:53.000 The government disarmed the people so they couldn't defend themselves, and it looks like the government's involved in this, even if they've never been involved.

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02:57:16.000 Get it out to everybody.

02:57:17.000 The alternative media must grow, and it is.

02:57:19.000 We must surge and defeat the New World Order. 0.56

02:57:21.000 To my crew, to everybody here at the office, great job.

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Alex Jones Show - April 16, 2007

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