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00:00:33.000 Miliburgs are meeting in Istanbul, Turkey.

00:00:35.000 You did hear it here first from Jim Tucker.

00:00:37.000 Breaking news between PrisonBlinded.com and American Free Press.

00:00:41.000 Thanks to Jim for being here and reporting with us.

00:00:44.000 He was correct yesterday.

00:00:46.000 It's now all over the major Western newspapers, literally scores of them, from Istanbul to Texas, from New York to Miami, from London to Jakarta.

00:00:58.000 I mean, it's really going on.

00:00:59.000 It's just, there's news stories everywhere.

00:01:02.000 Now confirming it is the Ritz-Carlton, the army, police, it's a big hotel up on a hill that is the Ritz-Carlton.

00:01:09.000 They put this info by design in a local Turkish paper a few days ago, saying it was the Classus Hotel, who now are putting out articles saying we should worship the Bilderberg Group.

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00:01:24.000 We're gonna break here in just a minute or two and come back and do one more segment with you and let you get back to your important work pooling with reporters.

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00:01:37.000 Jim Tucker joining us from Istanbul, now his second day, the first official day, they're covering it.

00:01:43.000 Jim, thank you for joining us, sir.

00:01:45.000 It's always a lot of fun, Alex.

00:01:47.000 We're going to break here in just a minute or two and come back and do one more segment with you and let you get back to your important work pooling with reporters.

00:01:53.000 But what happened today?

00:01:54.000 Well, several dramatic things happened today.

00:02:00.000 Uh, the, uh, the term was, uh, surrender was used in referring to your President Bush.

00:02:13.000 Really?

00:02:13.000 He opposed... Now, remember a little history here.

00:02:17.000 Years and years ago, Bilderberg, the sons of smokestack industries, embraced, uh, Ecology, long before it's fashionable to be a treehugger, caused the potential for immense profits.

00:02:30.000 Bush had rejected, altogether, the Kyoto Treaty, as he should have.

00:02:39.000 I mean, Mexico would be exempt, so our factories could move down there without the burden of ecological demands, along with the low wages, and so forth.

00:02:49.000 And they're saying that Bush has now surrendered to that?

00:02:52.000 Yes.

00:02:56.000 Twenty-fifth, the Bush administration officials again totally rejected the Kyoto Treaty.

00:03:07.000 Now, in Washington, Bush has proposed to get major nations to agree on global emissions goals by 2008.

00:03:14.000 That's next year.

00:03:17.000 And so this is the big news out of Bilderberg, is that they're agreeing, the U.S.

00:03:21.000 is now agreeing to get on board for the global tax, which of course is the carbon tax.

00:03:26.000 That would be a follow-up that's always on their agenda, and it's been pending before the United Nations for at least three years, but the Americans who read their daily newspapers do not know that.

00:03:40.000 So, it was their term, quote, surrender, quote, On that issue.

00:03:46.000 But then, Bush is quietly, and that will have to surface even in the Ketz press sooner or later, but Bush is now quietly pushing the so-called Law of the Sea Treaty, which he has opposed.

00:04:03.000 Clinton... Which will also be a global tax, for those that don't know, a global tax on all maritime activities and put the UN over 74% of the Earth's surface.

00:04:14.000 Absolutely, and it would be a major surrender of sovereignty when the, well, some international group, obviously, under control of the U.N.

00:04:28.000 Now remember, Clinton signed the Law of the Sea Treaty.

00:04:33.000 Stay there, Jim Tucker, we're going to come right back with a final segment.

00:04:36.000 This is the news he's getting from inside Bilderberg with his sources he gets every year with infiltrators.

00:04:42.000 After the people that work in the hotel see the open evil, the open discussion of world government and total enslavement, he then gets the inside intel.

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00:08:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, yesterday, Congressman Mon Paul, on this show, May 31st, yesterday, it's now June 1st, said that if Rick Perry went to Bilderberg, he hadn't yet seen the Dallas Morning News.

00:08:28.000 He said that that does look like a violation of the Logan Act, which is criminal.

00:08:33.000 It's a federal felony, punishable by large fines and prison time.

00:08:39.000 He also said that it shows that he's definitely part of the quote, one world government conspiracy, the plan for a one world government, that he's part of the international conspiracy.

00:08:50.000 And if you go up to PrisonPlanet.com and JonesReport.com and especially JonesReport.com, just unbelievable reporting there.

00:08:59.000 He will see all of this and of course we also broke yesterday.

00:09:02.000 I'm so proud of this and so honored that Jim broke this here that it is confirmed and they finally reported today that it is the Ritz Carlton there in Istanbul.

00:09:10.000 Jim has got sources inside.

00:09:13.000 Jim was getting into what you could already see him starting to move towards publicly capitulating.

00:09:19.000 Of course, they were just getting the Americans ready.

00:09:20.000 Bush was always for it.

00:09:21.000 He signed back on to UNESCO three years ago.

00:09:23.000 United Nations Educational and Cultural Organization.

00:09:26.000 They were getting us ready for this.

00:09:29.000 And we got the SPP.gov documents through a FOIA request last year.

00:09:34.000 Judicial Watch did and it said in there they were going to use global warming, hysteria, and fear They said use the fear to get a region-wide carbon tax.

00:09:46.000 Going back to Jim Tucker, please continue on that point, sir, and you were also getting into some other points.

00:09:52.000 Well, on the energy-related part, the U.S.

00:09:58.000 was told to increase gasoline, to hike gasoline taxes.

00:10:06.000 Enough to make the prices cost to exceed $4 a gallon at least.

00:10:13.000 They prefer it to be about $5 a gallon.

00:10:16.000 And that would be, of course, to reduce carbon monoxide emissions and make us all healthier, see?

00:10:26.000 Now, before we laugh at this proposal with the boot of America paying record high gas taxes now, Adjusted for inflation.

00:10:37.000 Considered it in the early 80s.

00:10:41.000 The Junior Barter and Tile Out Commission meeting in San Francisco called for an increase in gasoline taxes, a federal gas tax increase of 10 cents a gallon.

00:10:52.000 Shocking to most Americans at that time because that was one of those get in line and wait for gas at sky high prices time.

00:11:05.000 So, you'd think offhand that they politically could not do that.

00:11:10.000 Now, the Tridental Commission meeting ended with farewells on a Monday morning.

00:11:16.000 All the work done, they tell each other goodbye on Monday morning, and head for the airport.

00:11:22.000 On Tuesday, the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post, in its editorial, not some op-ed column, the columnist giving his opinion, but the official position of the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post, On Tuesday, an editorial called for a gas tax increase of ten cents a gallon, and it came to pass.

00:11:44.000 So, let's not take this too lightly.

00:11:54.000 Now, before the break, Jim, you were trying to get into Bill Clinton.

00:11:56.000 You were saying, remember Bill Clinton in connection with the Law of the Sea Treaty, which allows the UN to seize 70 plus percent of the Earth's surface, of course being the oceans and seas of the world, and inland seas, and being able to levy taxes and have paramilitary global coast guards running around controlling everyone.

00:12:16.000 This is a massive grab, just like the Pentagon has claimed total dominance and ownership of space.

00:12:23.000 In fact, that's an official position of our government is ownership of the entire universe now.

00:12:28.000 They've told any other government they can't get up there.

00:12:30.000 This is all for dominance and control.

00:12:32.000 You know, nobody cared when Spain claimed the new world for themselves, along with Portugal, but that certainly meant something down the line.

00:12:39.000 Now with society being accelerated and everything happening, instead of over a hundred years, you know, the change that happened in a hundred years is now happening in a year.

00:12:47.000 This is very, very serious to anyone who's going to be alive in just ten years.

00:12:51.000 So please get back in the law of the sea, sir.

00:12:53.000 What's the intel you're getting from inside Bilderberg?

00:12:56.000 Well, remember that Reagan did outfit with humor and would not sign off on it. 0.65

00:13:06.000 Bush in the original, even though he was under Bilderberg control, did not dare push it too hard in his term, and Bill Clinton signed it and told us how wonderful it would be.

00:13:19.000 Of course, Bill Clinton was annoyed by Bilderberg when he attended their meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in 1991, and he tells us what a wonderful thing it would be.

00:13:29.000 So the Senate had a test vote, they call it, on ratification, and it was rejected 95-0.

00:13:36.000 So Clinton pulled back his request for ratification for political reasons, obviously, on the treaty he had signed off on.

00:13:46.000 That was before the 9-11 police state agenda where 9-11 is used to do absolutely anything and everything, and that was before the fake man-made global warming hysteria where we've got to turn everything over the UN and man eating meat and and and and it was a start restricting people to one family one child that's all being called for right now The Chinese model is the New World Order model. 0.85

00:14:12.000 Jim Tucker, any other key tidbits you're getting from your sources inside Bilderberg?

00:14:19.000 Domestically, That's about it, but the fact that Little Bush is going to embrace the Law of the Sea Treaty is something that will have to emerge in the fullness of time in the cut press also, but you heard it here first.

00:14:39.000 And of course you heard it here first that they were not going to attack Iraq in 2002, as the Washington Post said they were, and as the media unanimously said it was going to be in 2003.

00:14:48.000 We heard it here first from you, Jim, on the Berlin Wall was going to fall on a staged event.

00:14:53.000 We heard it here first on every single issue.

00:14:56.000 These guys pulled the shots.

00:14:57.000 Jim told you three years ago they were going to double oil prices.

00:15:00.000 It indeed happened.

00:15:02.000 These guys are setting the policy.

00:15:04.000 Jim, on a whole separate issue, just on media coverage, it is in newspapers globally.

00:15:11.000 I did a search under Bilderberg on Google News this morning and it came up with hundreds of hits.

00:15:17.000 We see exponential coverage of this from 10 years ago the media said it didn't exist, 7 years ago... American media?

00:15:25.000 Because I've not seen an American newspaper since I left Washington.

00:15:27.000 Yes, Dallas Morning News front page, many other US newspapers front page.

00:15:33.000 Magazines, Jim.

00:15:35.000 Some of the top movies at the box office make jokes about Bilderberg.

00:15:38.000 It's just all of a sudden, it's all over Texas television.

00:15:42.000 We have video clips up on prismplanet.com from News 8 Austin.

00:15:46.000 There's also a Dallas piece.

00:15:47.000 I'm told the Senate's... It's wonderful, this breakthrough, because you know as well as I do about the near total blackout we've had in the United States.

00:15:56.000 The European newspapers and broadcasters have had a lot of fun.

00:16:00.000 I've had very few moments today where I'm not staring into somebody's camera and yacking away.

00:16:08.000 Well, see, that's the difference.

00:16:09.000 I mean, before, when you were doing this 30 years ago, and physically, what, at 29 of these meetings, Jim?

00:16:15.000 Something like that.

00:16:16.000 So, I mean, literally 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago it didn't exist.

00:16:20.000 Then last year in Canada, because they arrested me and a few other things, it blew up nationally there, but it never really been in our press.

00:16:27.000 Now, for the first time, Jim, And again, you get most of the credit on this.

00:16:30.000 It is everywhere.

00:16:32.000 Do you think they're happy about this?

00:16:34.000 Oh, they've got their dickers in, and not to be sure, because their salad years have been, they could be absolutely secret until now their very existence.

00:16:46.000 And they're doing everything stupidly, perhaps, to Trying to suppress coverage like the lie they planted in that newspaper story we talked about yesterday. 0.74

00:16:55.000 Six paragraphs deep inside the paper, very polite, and saying that it was going to be a classic resort. 0.83

00:17:04.000 Well, there's also big Turkish papers saying, big deal, so they're world leaders meeting.

00:17:09.000 The point is they tried to keep it secret all these years.

00:17:11.000 We've gotten their minutes.

00:17:12.000 We know they're securing global events. 0.93

00:17:15.000 We know that they are very corrupt.

00:17:17.000 Jim, what type of security did you see outside of the Ritz Carlton?

00:17:23.000 Typical, tremendous show of uniformed police, all of course armed, surrounding the whole hill.

00:17:33.000 Of course, many of them at the front gate, but then you don't take three steps without a couple of cops confronting you as you walk all the way around that hill.

00:17:44.000 So it's a lot heavier than Canada?

00:17:47.000 I'm trying to remember Canada.

00:17:48.000 Well, yes, yes, it was heavier than Canada.

00:17:51.000 And of course, they had the guys on the top of the roof with their binoculars.

00:17:56.000 And our photographer thinks he was able to shoot David Rockefeller where he blows his photographs up.

00:18:01.000 He'll be sure.

00:18:02.000 But so far, they've tried to keep the list secret.

00:18:07.000 But we've got just got all of them accounted for.

00:18:11.000 And they may end up putting on a website, say Monday, just to Get rid of the questions and all that jazz, but I'll bet you we've identified people that they will not put on that website that were confirmed by, their presence was confirmed by our site.

00:18:29.000 By that you mean there's always people on, who are there who aren't on the list?

00:18:33.000 How big is this to have Rick Perry, by the way, who's embroiled, a Bilderberg member by the way, has been indicted in connection to literally the biggest a takeover of government and private owned power plants in Texas.

00:18:48.000 It's powering much of the surrounding states.

00:18:51.000 It's already been a big scandal.

00:18:52.000 It turns out Rick Perry's involved in all that and with Bilderberg Group members in the grabbing of 8,000 miles of roads.

00:18:58.000 Literally, Bilderberg is grabbing the infrastructure of Texas, the fastest growing state in the union, the second most populous.

00:19:06.000 What does this mean for Rick Perry?

00:19:07.000 I mean, is it that they're positioning him for president later?

00:19:10.000 Or is this more that he's just one of their gangsters?

00:19:13.000 Well, first of all, as I mentioned yesterday, they would consider him a potential president, a useful tool and fool in the future, and that he would not be invited next year if they decide to throw that shoe away, because about 110 to 115 of the Bilderberg are the regulars, typically there's five or so newcomers, most of whom are not invited back.

00:19:41.000 But they had to see some potential for him to be there, too, to invite him.

00:19:45.000 Jim, I tell you what, we're scheduled to have eight reporters on.

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00:23:59.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:24:20.000 Welcome.

00:24:21.000 Waiting in the wings, we have American filmmakers Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer, also Romanian filmmaker Paul Duranu, and Daniel Estelan coming up later.

00:24:33.000 This is just absolutely amazing.

00:24:36.000 And of course, Jim Tucker right now.

00:24:39.000 Jim, you said there's so much more And obviously, when you get back to town, we'll do a full hour and debrief you properly, and American Free Press is going to have photos and articles about it, so is PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

00:24:52.000 But just in closing, before I go to these other reporters, Jim, I want to thank you for coming on.

00:24:55.000 I want to thank you for your 30-plus years of covering this, 29 years physically covering it, or is it 35, covering it total.

00:25:03.000 You said there was a whole other European side.

00:25:06.000 Give us just a taste of some of the things that you're going to be writing about, some of the things you've learned from your sources.

00:25:12.000 Well, you've been reading about the Turkish troops massing on the border with Iraq to invade the Kurds in Iraq.

00:25:23.000 The Turkish, Billerberg said, there is no massing of our troops on the border with Iraq and there will be no invasion of the Kurds.

00:25:33.000 In Iraq... Well, they're always having Kurds engaging in incursions, so they've always got troops there. 1.00

00:25:41.000 Yeah, but he said the newspaper was all wrong about the bashing of the border and the potential invasion.

00:25:48.000 Another Kurd said that... I mean, another Turk said that he'd like to be portrayed as begging to enter the European Union and pointed out that a lot of Turks are opposed to the European Union because they'd have to surrender too much sovereignty and there's so many nationalists.

00:26:10.000 Well, nationalists, which is their synonym for patriots, are demeaned by Bill O'Brien. 0.96

00:26:18.000 To be a nationalist, a patriotic to your own country, you're horrible.

00:26:23.000 So they've had that little kind of interchange to The Europeans support the invasion of Iraq, but still, I mean, of Afghanistan.

00:26:34.000 Afghanistan.

00:26:35.000 Jim, what about Bush now saying he wants to bring UN troops and hand it over to I-4?

00:26:40.000 Hasn't that been on the Bilderberg plate the last few years to kind of let the U.S. play the bad cop and the UN later comes in as the savior?

00:26:47.000 Have you gotten any intel on that?

00:26:48.000 Nothing this year so far, but I'll be back tomorrow.

00:26:52.000 But I guess I better turn you over to those old-timers who've had some good adventures today.

00:26:58.000 Absolutely, Jim.

00:26:59.000 Are you still being followed?

00:26:59.000 Thank you so much.

00:27:01.000 Okay, you're welcome.

00:27:03.000 Oh, yes.

00:27:04.000 They pointed out a different set of cops today.

00:27:07.000 All right, sir.

00:27:08.000 We'll talk to you this weekend.

00:27:09.000 Very good.

00:27:10.000 There goes Jim Tucker from his hotel in Istanbul, the Orient.

00:27:10.000 Have fun.

00:27:15.000 It's overlooking the nearby Ritz Carlton.

00:27:18.000 We now go, we're about to break, but I want to go ahead and introduce them to Andrew, Neil, and Luke Meyer, and they're in a hotel room filled with other reporters.

00:27:26.000 Gentlemen, thank you for coming on.

00:27:28.000 Hey, how are you doing, Alex?

00:27:29.000 Thanks for having us.

00:27:30.000 Thank you for coming on.

00:27:32.000 What is this like covering Bilderberg?

00:27:32.000 What have you seen?

00:27:34.000 Well, it's been pretty wild, you know.

00:27:37.000 We got here on Tuesday, Jim got here on Wednesday.

00:27:40.000 We came here to follow Jim's Jim's a journey, and we've been with him pretty much every waking moment of the day when he's been on the move, and it's been pretty incredible.

00:27:52.000 Like, there's cops following him, and when we went over to the Ritz, it cordoned off the entire area.

00:27:59.000 With riot gear and things kind of roped up with barricades so you can't go on the sidewalk.

00:28:05.000 There were some guys with, like, submachine guns and stuff, and you couldn't even get close to it.

00:28:11.000 Yeah, no, for Luke and I, we'd never seen anything like this, so for us, it was kind of mind-blowing.

00:28:11.000 That's normal.

00:28:18.000 Well, I was about to add that that happened every other time, but when I went to Canada.

00:28:22.000 But go ahead.

00:28:25.000 So yeah, that was kind of a shock to us, and then we were in the car with Jim, traveling around the city to be followed by police.

00:28:32.000 Certainly nothing that has ever happened to me.

00:28:37.000 Before, and so it was kind of startling.

00:28:39.000 We got some good shots of that.

00:28:42.000 Jim is just kind of inspiring.

00:28:44.000 He's still on the move.

00:28:46.000 I can't believe he's got the energy to keep going.

00:28:48.000 In fact, he's got more energy than us.

00:28:51.000 It's hard to see what's going on inside there.

00:28:53.000 They seem to have established a really good perimeter.

00:28:55.000 It's all buttoned up.

00:28:58.000 We spent some time out in front.

00:28:59.000 Look at all the entrances.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, there's like three entrances that, you know, different people are going in, but you couldn't, we couldn't, we didn't see any, we weren't able to get any clear shots of anyone in particular.

00:29:11.000 Now, is this Andrew or Luke I'm talking to?

00:29:13.000 This is Andrew, sorry.

00:29:14.000 Okay, no, no, no, I just wanted to learn the voices.

00:29:17.000 Okay, go ahead, Andrew.

00:29:19.000 Um, so anyway, you know, that, we kind of left with Jim, and then, um, and then, uh, well, there's another filmmaker here, uh, Paul, that's sitting in the wing, too.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, we're going to talk to him on the other side, but stay there.

00:29:29.000 I want to talk to Luke, too.

00:29:30.000 Andrew, I just want to, uh, You know, get your take on the whole experience, the press coverage, what's happening.

00:29:35.000 Talk about the film you're making about Jim Tucker.

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00:32:55.000 sixty-one that's eight eight eight two one six twenty four sixty one do it today he's the t-rex of political talk alex jones on the gcn radio network defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic I want to thank my producer, Trey Kincaid, and also my wife's been doing producing, Violet Jones.

00:33:23.000 I want to thank everybody who's been joining us, Jim Tucker, Aaron Dykes for the stories he's been doing, Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Ryan Slickheisen, everybody on the crew for doing such a fabulous job, Mike Nelson, the list goes on and on.

00:33:39.000 R.I.P.

00:33:40.000 people, everybody.

00:33:42.000 Going back to Istanbul, we're talking to American Documentary Filmmaking Crew, who are making a film, I guess, about people that cover these type of events.

00:33:52.000 Great guys, they called a few months ago, I never got back with them, like everybody else I don't get back with, but now I'm definitely getting with them here on air, and it's Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer.

00:34:01.000 They're in Istanbul, we really appreciate their work, and they're in a hotel room with Romanian filmmaker Paul Duranu, I believe that's the right way to pronounce it, and we're just again very thankful to have them there with us from Istanbul.

00:34:14.000 Gentlemen, give us the lay of the land, what your trip was like getting over there, how the papers first reported that it was the classes to divert everybody, now that same paper's putting out disinfo pieces worshipping Bilderberg about how good they are, and then just basically what you witnessed, how the riot police were dressed, Some of the physical things that you saw, because I know you're not really doing a thing on Bilderberg, you're doing it on people who cover Bilderberg.

00:34:40.000 But I think now, is this kind of convincing you about the wickedness of Bilderberg?

00:34:44.000 Do you see all their security?

00:34:46.000 One of the most interesting things, I think, for Luke and I, and I guess Jim was talking about it some too, is that in America, you hear very little about these issues.

00:34:58.000 This is pretty newsworthy.

00:34:59.000 I mean, when Devos meets, and there aren't even as many elites there, I mean, this is the creme de la creme.

00:35:03.000 Devos is a step below this.

00:35:05.000 I mean, that's a big international spectacle.

00:35:07.000 Why is it this news?

00:35:09.000 Yeah, it was interesting.

00:35:10.000 Jim was saying, you know, that he felt as though, you know, that there was a lot, actually, there was a lot more coverage of it.

00:35:17.000 Oh, this is the breakthrough year.

00:35:18.000 I mean, last year was the break in the ice, and that got a hole in their armor, but that was the kink in the armor.

00:35:24.000 This year drove a huge spike right into their heart.

00:35:27.000 How's it being covered back in the States right now?

00:35:29.000 It's all over the newspapers.

00:35:30.000 It's literally... I mean, we're talking about less than 20 mentions in the last 50 years in U.S.

00:35:39.000 newspapers, and there's more than 20 articles and TV reports on it in just the last day.

00:35:45.000 So there's been more coverage in the last 24 hours in the United States than there has been on Bilderberg in the last 20, 30, 50 years.

00:35:54.000 It's amazing.

00:35:55.000 Yeah, well, there's an energy to it here as well.

00:35:59.000 I think obviously some of the regulars that come from the United States or other parts of Europe probably weren't able to make it because of the travel expense, you know?

00:36:08.000 But there was a lot of buzz about it, and every day at 4, Jim is mobbed at his hotel.

00:36:15.000 People showing up, taking pictures.

00:36:16.000 I mean, he's practically like a celebrity here.

00:36:19.000 And then we're running around after him, too.

00:36:22.000 There's kind of a bit of a circus running around after Jim.

00:36:25.000 He's probably not as covert as he might be, but he still goes to meet his sources by himself.

00:36:30.000 Now, who are you guys making your film for?

00:36:32.000 Because this is something I definitely want to carry when it comes out.

00:36:36.000 We're an independent production company, so we're trying to acquire funding for it.

00:36:42.000 We're getting going, trying to make a promo or whatever.

00:36:45.000 You know, basically the film is about the people who are trying to bring the New World Order concept into the mainstream.

00:36:52.000 Our producer, Tom Davis, who worked on some of our other films, started talking to Luke and I about it, and we didn't know that much about it.

00:37:01.000 We got kind of interested in it, and then started surfing the web and stuff.

00:37:07.000 I'm interested because you guys obviously came to this as virgins to it all.

00:37:17.000 Now do you think it's nefarious?

00:37:18.000 Do you think it's dark?

00:37:19.000 Do you think it's happy-loving?

00:37:21.000 Well, it's definitely not happy-loving.

00:37:23.000 I mean, there's a lot of policemen around and you don't have any idea what's going on inside the gate.

00:37:30.000 Highly secret, highly protected.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, Luke, pop in and give us your take on all this.

00:37:35.000 Well, I mean, I just, all I know is really what I'm seeing right now and that's how full force the police is out to anyone.

00:37:45.000 And it makes you wonder why things are that way.

00:37:52.000 Yeah, the secretive stuff certainly isn't very, it doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence and, you know, I mean, Well, I mean, here's the deal.

00:38:00.000 We know that the New York Times and Washington Post heads have been going to Bilderberg for at least, well, since its founding in the 50s.

00:38:08.000 And then I can show you multiple articles where they say in the past it didn't exist. 0.94

00:38:13.000 And you're insane if you say it exists.

00:38:15.000 That proves it's nefarious right there.

00:38:17.000 Then we get their minutes out of the meetings.

00:38:20.000 They literally created the European Union.

00:38:23.000 They ran the whole deal with Prince Bernhard and the royalty out of England.

00:38:27.000 They ran the entire My point is, is that there's no way to be neutral on this.

00:38:36.000 It'd be like being filmmakers and either you're for Hitler or you're against Hitler.

00:38:40.000 You know, you're either for Stalin or you're against Stalin.

00:38:42.000 And I understand you're trying to make an objective film about the movement and let people decide on their own.

00:38:46.000 I'm not putting you on the spot.

00:38:48.000 I'm just telling you, as human beings, can you not see who these people are?

00:38:52.000 This is the enemy of humanity.

00:38:55.000 Yeah, well, we're just, we're really at the very beginning of our stages of getting to know this, and we're trying to get to know it through our characters, you know, but in my opinion, you know, there's a lot of unanswered questions that over the course of the next year, you know, I would hope I would get the answer to some of those.

00:39:09.000 And really, you know, for me as a filmmaker, and I don't know if you agree with me, but like, we're just really interested by, you know, basically you guys, you know, and the amount of work and effort I'm finishing endgame in the next month and a half.

00:39:24.000 What brought you to it?

00:39:25.000 Because no one was talking about it, you know, even five years ago, and there's been a small group of people that have been talking about it.

00:39:32.000 Well, listen, I'm finishing Endgame in the next month and a half.

00:39:36.000 If you guys want to come to Austin, Texas, and I've literally got selected.

00:39:40.000 You would love to come.

00:39:40.000 Sure, sure.

00:39:41.000 Well, I've got to.

00:39:41.000 I mean, I know you tried to contact me a few months ago.

00:39:43.000 I never got back with it because I'm flooded.

00:39:45.000 But come to Austin, and if you want to do some limited footage swap, because I'm going to do an update in the film before I finish it, just about how Perry went.

00:39:54.000 Probably two minutes of my film that, oh by the way, in 2007, Perry went.

00:39:58.000 But if you guys want any of my footage from last year, I'd be happy to swap it.

00:40:01.000 But it's got to be quick if we're going to do it, because Endgame's almost done.

00:40:04.000 But yeah, you guys turn around and get down there.

00:40:07.000 We'll be back early next week, so maybe we can get in touch with you then.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, basically, I've got Pitcher Lockheed in one month.

00:40:13.000 And then I've got to have Graham Reynolds do the music.

00:40:15.000 He's already working on it.

00:40:16.000 And I've got all the graphics houses.

00:40:18.000 I've got two different graphics houses doing graphics on it.

00:40:21.000 I'm trying to up my films.

00:40:23.000 And, you know, Terror Storm was the next level.

00:40:25.000 This is going to be the next level after that.

00:40:27.000 But the point is, you've got to rush down and get a few selects of Jim being mobbed or the police, and then I'll be glad to give you guys quite a bit of my footage, because I'm all about getting the information out.

00:40:37.000 That way you'll have Canada.

00:40:39.000 But that aside, anything else you want to add before I get the Romanian filmmaker who's waiting on the wings on?

00:40:48.000 Yeah, I mean, just one thing, you know, maybe Alex, you could give us some recommendations and we'd love to talk to you too, but, you know, we're looking for more people.

00:40:55.000 You know, Jim is obviously the oldest guy, but we're looking for younger guys who are also in the movement.

00:41:01.000 Daniel Estolan, but you know, of course, he's got a sick family member.

00:41:03.000 This is one of the first times.

00:41:04.000 Yeah, he couldn't make it this year and we were looking forward to talking to him.

00:41:07.000 Yeah, first time in 15 years.

00:41:10.000 Yeah, that was unfortunate.

00:41:12.000 We were looking forward to talking to him, but maybe we'll get a chance to see him in the future, or maybe Bilderberg next year.

00:41:17.000 We've been thinking about trying to follow... Well, there's a fella in England who I've interviewed who has Bilderberg.org.

00:41:24.000 He'd be good to interview.

00:41:25.000 Obviously, I'd be good to interview.

00:41:26.000 You've already been trying.

00:41:27.000 And then there's... I can think of just a few others, but there are quite a few.

00:41:32.000 I know Michael Piper's covered it quite a bit.

00:41:36.000 All right, cool.

00:41:37.000 We look forward to touching base with you next week, and do you want us to get Paul on the line here?

00:41:42.000 Absolutely.

00:41:42.000 In fact, I would... When are you guys flying out?

00:41:44.000 Because I'd like to get a report from you guys Monday or Tuesday, kind of debrief you on air once you get back.

00:41:50.000 We're leaving Monday morning.

00:41:52.000 Not sure of the flight time, but sometime on Monday we'll be flying back.

00:41:55.000 Okay, well then that means I'll have to have you on Tuesday or Wednesday.

00:41:58.000 Let me just have my producer call you when this interview's over to make sure I've got all your contact points, not just there at the hotel.

00:42:04.000 That's all I've got to tell you.

00:42:06.000 Okay, cool.

00:42:07.000 I'm good.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, fantastic.

00:42:08.000 All right, great.

00:42:08.000 Should we just put Paul Wright on?

00:42:10.000 Yeah, and is it correct to pronounce his name Paul Dorano?

00:42:15.000 Dornanu.

00:42:16.000 Dornanu.

00:42:17.000 Okay, thank you.

00:42:17.000 Yes, buddy.

00:42:18.000 Thank you.

00:42:19.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

00:42:20.000 I appreciate you, Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer.

00:42:23.000 Thank you for reporting for us from Istanbul.

00:42:30.000 Okay, is this Paul Douranou?

00:42:34.000 Yeah, that's what's right.

00:42:36.000 Hello, Paul.

00:42:36.000 Thank you for coming on with us.

00:42:37.000 Tell us about what you witnessed there and what your film is about.

00:42:40.000 Well, I checked first thing in the morning the classic photo because Jim Tucker had thought that that might be The actual site for the board meeting and I went there and there's nothing.

00:42:53.000 I also was asked by the lady in the lobby to go to the Classes Golf and Country Club which is like 10 miles north from there and I checked there but still nothing there.

00:43:05.000 So everything happens at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel where like the other guys said basically it's packed with policemen, armed guards, securities, Actually, I managed to get stills and video shots with people on the roof of a side of a building where there were securities, military men with binoculars that were looking at me, and even civilians.

00:43:34.000 There were groups of people talking there on the roof.

00:43:39.000 And basically, I think we can get later.

00:43:44.000 Uh, look at the pictures on the computer and see more details of what I got.

00:43:50.000 Absolutely.

00:43:50.000 Pictures are now starting to come out online on different websites, different Turkish newspapers of the usual suspects, David Rockefeller and others.

00:43:58.000 Have you been able to see Texas Governor Rick Perry yet?

00:44:02.000 No, no, no.

00:44:03.000 I haven't been able to see anyone actually, but only got pictures of a black limo who entered the second gate, which is the gate on the street, which is blocked.

00:44:14.000 You can't enter that street.

00:44:16.000 So I think from this point of view, the Ritz-Carlton site is perfect for that situation because Nobody can actually get very close to the main entry.

00:44:27.000 There's a large ground.

00:44:29.000 Tell us about yourself.

00:44:30.000 Is this your first time covering Bilderberg, Paul?

00:44:33.000 Yes, this is the first time.

00:44:34.000 I have my own website, which I launched a couple of weeks ago, Infocon.ro.

00:44:43.000 Spell that out for people.

00:44:44.000 Spell out your website, please.

00:44:46.000 Info, I-N-F-O-E-O-N dot R-O.

00:44:50.000 It's a new website and I've been listening to your show and watching the websites for a couple of years now.

00:44:57.000 Oh fantastic!

00:44:57.000 So you've been taking pictures and you're going to upload those to your website?

00:45:01.000 Yes, yes.

00:45:01.000 So we'll try.

00:45:03.000 The problem is that here the internet is very, very slow.

00:45:06.000 I understand.

00:45:07.000 Well listen, get those up as soon as you can and we'll post them as well if that's okay with you and write an article about it.

00:45:12.000 Yeah, probably Sunday night when I get back to Bucharest because I drove here with a car.

00:45:18.000 Okay, spell that out slowly for people because if I had trouble covering it, others are.

00:45:22.000 Spell out your website.

00:45:25.000 I-N-F-O-E-O-N dot R-O. 1.00

00:45:31.000 Infocon.com?

00:45:34.000 No, Infocon.ro.

00:45:36.000 R-O from Romania. 0.99

00:45:37.000 Dot R-O. 1.00

00:45:38.000 So it's Infocon.ro.

00:45:40.000 That's exact.

00:45:41.000 Okay, well we'll be watching that Sunday and we'll do a report on it, sir.

00:45:47.000 I mean, describe... I was hearing that there are riot police out there.

00:45:53.000 Yeah, there's lots of police and what I understand that they actually were afraid of riots because I understand that people, Turkish people, do easily get together and start riots and Uh, big meetings. 1.00

00:46:10.000 Uh, actually, there was, uh, a couple of days ago, a meeting, uh, in a square near the Rich Carlton Hotel from an organization, I don't know the name, uh, something like, uh, Global Peace, and, uh, um, I don't remember exactly the name, but, uh... Oh, that's major news!

00:46:27.000 You're... Now, now, now, state that again.

00:46:30.000 Exactly what happened at the Rich Carlton?

00:46:31.000 You're saying it was some type of protest?

00:46:34.000 Yeah, there was a small protest, not at Ritz Carlton, but in a square near Ritz Carlton, not very far, like under one mile.

00:46:43.000 Really?

00:46:43.000 People protesting Bilderberg?

00:46:45.000 How many?

00:46:46.000 Bilderberg and anti-nuclear things.

00:46:50.000 Sure, how many people?

00:46:53.000 I think there were like up to 100 people, something like that.

00:46:57.000 I'm not sure because I got late.

00:47:00.000 That's got to be the biggest Bilderberg protest I've ever heard of because they're so secret.

00:47:04.000 Of course, 100 will probably be 10,000 next year, wherever they have it.

00:47:09.000 And after that it was a press conference in Turkish about this protest that was organized.

00:47:16.000 And Jim was there too.

00:47:18.000 What inspired you to cover Bilderberg?

00:47:22.000 Well, I think the same thing as you do.

00:47:26.000 I want people to find out about this stuff.

00:47:30.000 Lots of people do not believe Bilderberg exists.

00:47:34.000 And it's a way where I can actually prove that they do exist, that there's something going on.

00:47:42.000 If I can describe this Bilderberg meeting is similar to a conference that has taken place in Bucharest in Romania in September.

00:47:50.000 That is, the francophonic meeting where, like, presidents and ministers from a lot of countries, at least a couple of dozen countries, countries that do speak French, came to Bucharest.

00:48:07.000 So basically the Parliament building where was the meeting was sealed off, all the streets around it, lots of policemen, snipers on the buildings, and so on.

00:48:18.000 I mean, is this freedom?

00:48:19.000 Is this a free society with elites meeting in secret and our politicians present themselves like vegetables or fruit at a fruit stand to be squeezed on and smelled and examined to see which person they want to buy or back?

00:48:33.000 I mean, there's no doubt there's... No, no, clearly it's not a free society.

00:48:40.000 We should know about what they are talking there, because they are going there on our expenses.

00:48:45.000 They are public figures, which are elected by us, so we have to know what's happening there.

00:48:54.000 I said public figures that were elected, not everyone is elected, because let's consider Barroso, which is the President of the European Commission, which is not elected by name.

00:49:08.000 Deborah Rosso was just over here a few weeks ago with Bush, openly announcing a merger of the EU and the American Union.

00:49:14.000 It was on C-SPAN, and we read an article about it, and people couldn't even grasp how big it was.

00:49:19.000 I mean, when I say a story is big, folks, it's big.

00:49:22.000 And this stuff is just happening right out in the open, America and the world.

00:49:26.000 Sovereignty is dying, not with a bang, but with a whimper.

00:49:29.000 Well listen, we're going to watch your site, sir, and we'll get a report out on your photos as soon as that's okay.

00:49:36.000 And is it alright with you when we link to your site?

00:49:39.000 Because your site might crash if we send 5 million people there.

00:49:42.000 Is it okay if we go ahead and post your photos on prisonplanet.com?

00:49:45.000 Yes, that's right.

00:49:47.000 I think I'll get in contact with you and send you a link where I can upload some photos, good quality photos for you.

00:49:55.000 Do that!

00:49:55.000 Listen, Aaron at InfoWars.com.

00:49:57.000 He is the guy that's working the hardest right now in the organization.

00:50:00.000 Aaron at InfoWars.com.

00:50:04.000 Two ways.

00:50:05.000 Sure, we'll do that.

00:50:06.000 And, uh, absolutely.

00:50:07.000 In fact, if you send them to us, we'll get them up and put a link to your site, sir.

00:50:10.000 And, of course, we'll probably crash your site.

00:50:11.000 My email is, uh, my email is paul at info.com.

00:50:17.000 So you know.

00:50:18.000 Okay, well, sure.

00:50:18.000 We can just go to your site and contact you that way.

00:50:20.000 Then we will send you your contact, uh, our contact info, and it's great working with you, and God bless you, and I look forward to interviewing you.

00:50:27.000 Thank you for having me on your show.

00:50:29.000 You bet.

00:50:29.000 Let me just, just hand the phone back briefly if you can, if they're still there, to Andrew Neal.

00:50:35.000 And the guys, I don't want to let them go quite yet, okay Paul?

00:50:38.000 Okay, okay, okay.

00:50:39.000 Thank you.

00:50:39.000 And then we're scheduled to have Daniel Estelin on from Spain.

00:50:44.000 He's got apparently a member who's very sick, but I want his analysis.

00:50:48.000 He's one of the, I'd say the foremost analyst, he's the best-selling author of Club Bilderberg.

00:50:53.000 We've got him coming up in the next hour.

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00:54:02.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:54:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:11.000 Live from Istanbul, ladies and gentlemen, we've interviewed Jim Tucker, we've interviewed Andrew Neal, Luke Meyer, Paul Durananu from Romania, Daniel Estilans has a family member on death's doorstep, but he has still got great contacts inside, he's the Most informed on Bilderberg and covering for 15 years.

00:54:32.000 He's going to be with us in the next hour.

00:54:33.000 We're about to go to him in about 60 seconds.

00:54:35.000 But just saying bye to Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer.

00:54:38.000 Gentlemen, American filmmakers, were you able to see any of the Bilderberg group or is there just too much security this year?

00:54:46.000 Uh, we were not able to see really anyone because the barricades are so far away.

00:54:51.000 But Jim was saying something about how they let them in, like, I think they, like, tried to stagger it and stuff so you couldn't, like, so you couldn't see, you know?

00:55:00.000 There's no helipad, there's no, like, uh, motorcade of cars going in, there's just... And we were, we were usually with Jim, but there were a couple that, like, Paul, for instance, that was just on was out there, you know, all day.

00:55:13.000 Absolutely!

00:55:13.000 I want to thank you gentlemen for the great job you've been doing and I appreciate it and I look forward to debriefing you next week.

00:55:18.000 We'll talk then.

00:55:18.000 Okay, cool.

00:55:19.000 Thanks so much Alex.

00:55:20.000 couple pictures and um i think you touch base with paul and hopefully they'll be able to get you some stuff that you can use absolutely i want to thank you gentlemen for the great job you've been doing and i appreciate it and i look forward to debriefing you next week we'll talk then okay cool thanks so much alex take care and god bless all right now going to daniel estalon and coming up in the next hour folks i've got huge reports of my own with rick perry and massive

00:55:44.000 This stuff, violating the Logan Act, Bilderberg group members that are under indictment that Perry's involved with in business.

00:55:53.000 This stuff is huge.

00:55:54.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:55:56.000 Daniel Estillon, I feel guilty twisting your arm to come on with your mother-in-law in deep trouble, but we should all pray for her.

00:56:01.000 Thanks for coming on with us.

00:56:03.000 Alex, great to be invited back to your show, and it's always a pleasure.

00:56:06.000 Well, thank you.

00:56:07.000 I'm sad you can't be there, but you are still on the phone, you're on the internet, you've got the sources, you've got huge news on Zolocal.

00:56:14.000 Give us the info.

00:56:15.000 All right, I just jotted down a few points.

00:56:17.000 I'll just start going.

00:56:18.000 When you get tired of listening to me, just tell me to stop.

00:56:20.000 We're going to break here in a minute.

00:56:21.000 We'll just come back and continue.

00:56:22.000 Go ahead.

00:56:23.000 Okay, now Robert Zoloc and the World Bank nomination.

00:56:26.000 Now, the U.S.

00:56:26.000 delegation ...is standing unanimously behind Robert Zoellick's candidacy as an ex-president of the World Bank.

00:56:33.000 Now, Zoellick is a 53-year-old Wall Street executive.

00:56:36.000 He's a former administration official and a free market fundamentalist.

00:56:40.000 Now, during the Bill of Rights meeting yesterday, he pledged to work to restore confidence in the bank.

00:56:45.000 Now, he said, we need to put our differences aside and focus on the future together.

00:56:49.000 I believe, Zoellick said, that the World Bank's best days are still to come.

00:56:53.000 Now, the chances of Zollig not being approved for the chair of the World Act presidency are slim to none.

00:56:59.000 The final decision is to be made by the end of June by the bank's 24-member board of directors.

00:57:03.000 Now, the United States and Europe have a tacit agreement between them that the bank's president should always be a U.S. national, while its sister institution, the International Monetary Fund, is headed by a European.

00:57:15.000 Now, nevertheless, according to a source at the conference, European Bilderbergers are not at all pleased, Alex, with continuing the status quo in which the U.S.

00:57:24.000 nominates a single candidate after informal consultation with the bank members.

00:57:28.000 The nomination also appears to short-circuit burgeoning calls for reform of this selection process at the bank, one of the cornerstones of a global financial architecture as designed by the According to our sources at the conference, one Belgian Bilderberger proposed what he said, a merit-based selection process without regard to nationality, something which will obviously be discarded by the inept Bush administration.

00:57:53.000 What is rather quite remarkable is that on several occasions, European Bilderbergers have openly rejected the current model, saying that the nomination reeks of double standards, especially because the United States and the World Bank preach accountability and transparency to developing countries as the main clients especially because the United States and the World Bank preach accountability and transparency

00:58:12.000 But with the International Monetary Fund, under the control of a Spaniard, the European Central Bank, under control of a Frenchman, it's very difficult to imagine that the United States would give up control of the World Bank.

00:58:24.000 Only the United States Federal Reserve would remain in the hands of the Americans. 0.84

00:58:29.000 Daniel Estillan stay right there.

00:58:31.000 Daniel has been writing incredible reports.

00:58:33.000 This sounds like one that hasn't even been published yet.

00:58:36.000 He's giving you the scoop here first.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:41.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.

00:58:46.000 3-877-300-7645.

00:58:48.000 More than...

00:58:52.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:59.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 It is now hour number two.

00:59:20.000 We had four different reporters and journalists on, including Jim Tucker, in the last hour from The Bilderberg meeting covering it in Istanbul, Turkey, formerly Constantinople.

00:59:33.000 Why I mention that?

00:59:34.000 I'm just into history.

00:59:35.000 The point is, Daniel Esselen joins us from Spain.

00:59:39.000 He's been to the last 15 meetings.

00:59:40.000 But he has a family member on death's doorstep.

00:59:43.000 We need to pray for her.

00:59:44.000 So he's unable to attend, but he is continuing with the best analysis.

00:59:48.000 And he's huge in Endgame.

00:59:49.000 Wait until it comes out.

00:59:50.000 We couldn't do it without him.

00:59:52.000 Daniel Estillan also, of course, has his website.

00:59:54.000 We have links to it on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:59:57.000 A week and a half ago, he got the entire guest list His info is always checked out.

01:00:02.000 He's giving huge news on Zelikow, a very dangerous globalist.

01:00:06.000 Somebody that I was informed of 10 years ago, they said, watch this guy.

01:00:10.000 He is very, very important.

01:00:12.000 And there's all these other people involved as well.

01:00:15.000 Going back to Daniel Estolán, please continue with that analysis you were going over, sir.

01:00:19.000 Well, it's funny Alex, you should say that you were informed of Zelik's dangers to the international community ten years ago. 0.99

01:00:26.000 I too was told by people who are close to the deliver community that Zelik's name also raises eyebrows among development groups.

01:00:36.000 For his close ties to the Yes Establishment as well as his relationship to the corporate interests.

01:00:41.000 One of the attendees at the Bilderberg Conference, and I have not had the confirmation as to who this individual is, asked Zolbek how he was planning to patch up relationships with third and fourth world nations when he is best remembered during his tenure as United States Trade Representative for arm-twisting poor nations' governments to adhere to United States-imposed intellectual property laws that make medicines, for example, unaffordable to the developing world.

01:01:06.000 Uh, Zola didn't say anything, which again, rhetorical questions.

01:01:09.000 Uh, snickering was heard in the room.

01:01:12.000 Now, he has been also a close friend to the brand-name pharmaceutical industry and the bilateral trade agreements he has negotiated effectively block access to genetic medication for millions of people, meaning basically that millions of people will die because they do not have access to cheap medicine.

01:01:28.000 Which goes back to the population control agenda, correct?

01:01:31.000 Exactly.

01:01:32.000 However, what has really riled up both the American and European delegates is the fact that the World Bank's dirty linen is being washed in public, thanks in great part to Paul Wolfowitz's ineptness, which, incidentally, Wolfowitz has blamed on the American press.

01:01:46.000 That's quite cheeky of him.

01:01:47.000 Now, I'd like to go over a little bit for your audiences, exactly explain what the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank stand for, what they are, because I think a lot of people think that they're good institutions that are supposed to be helping humanity, when in fact they've done more damage to the human race than any other financial institution in history, if I may.

01:02:05.000 Alex?

01:02:06.000 Yes, please continue.

01:02:07.000 Alright, now it's widely but mistakenly believed that the purpose of the World Bank, controlled by the United States Federal Reserve and the International Monetary Fund, of which the United States is the principal donor and the only nation with the veto power, is to encourage development and relieve poverty in the third world.

01:02:23.000 But in practice, these organizations have added to the impoverishment and destitutions of millions through the loan scheme called the Structural Adjustment Programs, SAPs, that have succeeded in adding to the country's burden of debt and stagnation.

01:02:36.000 Now, the obvious result of the SAPs from the World Bank and the IMF is that the money lent to the destitute nations were used to make immediate interest payments to Western banking institutions, something that both Jim Tucker and I have been saying for years.

01:02:50.000 Furthermore, by ordering third world economies to focus on production for export purposes, the World Bank and the IMF channeled over almost $200 billion of third world financial resources in the 1980s and early 1990s into a servicing dollar denominated for debt.

01:03:06.000 Obviously, that doesn't help the third world economies. 0.86

01:03:09.000 Now, these programs are being implemented in over 73rd world countries from Nigeria to Jamaica, from Hungary to Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana, etc, etc.

01:03:19.000 And they're subjected to 566 IMF and World Bank stabilization and SAP's.

01:03:25.000 Daniel, final segment with you when we get back.

01:03:28.000 By the way, folks, they're raping the 3rd world, now they're subdividing the assets of the United States, treating us like a 3rd world nation. 1.00

01:03:36.000 We are now on the chopping block, stay with us.

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01:07:27.000 The United Nations officially is saying the dollar could collapse.

01:07:31.000 And when you actually read the document, they say they think it is going to collapse.

01:07:34.000 Then of course, look about the Amaro as the answer to counter the European Union.

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01:07:42.000 When the organization went public, they were actually set up in 73.

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01:08:02.000 Everything that Ethel is saying is huge.

01:08:04.000 What the guest said in the last hour, that was stuff from inside Bilderberg with Jim Tucker.

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01:08:10.000 You can bank it.

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01:08:13.000 These are the people steering the world's future.

01:08:15.000 We're not talking about what size breast implants some woman got. 0.99

01:08:20.000 We're not talking about if some Lindsay Lohan's in rehab.

01:08:23.000 We're not talking about stoop.

01:08:25.000 We're talking about everything you've got in the bank being turned into pesos.

01:08:29.000 We're talking about the economy imploding.

01:08:31.000 We're talking about troops in the streets.

01:08:33.000 We're talking about martial law.

01:08:35.000 We're talking about World War III.

01:08:36.000 We're talking about one world government.

01:08:38.000 We're talking about biblical-type stuff here, okay?

01:08:42.000 This is the real deal.

01:08:44.000 Daniel Estillin, please continue, sir, in the last few minutes we've got with you.

01:08:47.000 Great.

01:08:48.000 Now, one of the key, Alex, sticking points, as far as Zoellick's nomination is concerned, is, again, has to do with Africa.

01:08:48.000 Great to be back again.

01:08:55.000 African states unable to compete with Western multinationals They've been forced to withdraw from the health sector as part of the free market economy.

01:09:02.000 Now, again, it goes back to what you were saying about the Malthus, about the population reduction, etc.

01:09:07.000 Now, this has put African children at the mercy of unscrupulous international organizations And pharmaceutical transnational corporations who are thus at liberty to use them as guinea pigs for testing various drugs and vaccines.

01:09:20.000 Now, on a case in point, in January 2001, the U.S.-based pharmaceutical, PNC-Pfizer, used an experimental drug on about 50,000 children suffering from meningitis in Kano, Nigeria, without official authorization.

01:09:33.000 As a result of the epidemic, almost 15,000 people died, while many others became deaf and blind.

01:09:39.000 Needless to say, we haven't heard about it, In the United States, nor have we heard about it in Europe.

01:09:44.000 But just a couple of other items on the agenda, which we're following from the Bilderberg Conference, about the European relations with Russia, is, needless to say, the key sticking point, not only in Europe, but also in Central Asia.

01:09:55.000 We'll have a complete report on that next week, once the conference is finished, with Moscow making a deal... And Daniel, let me stop you right there.

01:10:02.000 Now, you graciously let us post all your stuff at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com, but tell folks the address for your fabulous news site.

01:10:11.000 It's www.danielestulin.com, E-S-T-U-L-I-N. 0.83

01:10:17.000 Today, by the way, Alex, the Turkish edition of my Bilibur book is out.

01:10:21.000 And on the 1st of September, the American edition of the true story of the Bilibur will be out in the United States.

01:10:27.000 Needless to say, I'll be there to promote it.

01:10:30.000 It's already published in what, 24 countries?

01:10:33.000 It's published in 42 countries in 24 languages.

01:10:36.000 It has sold a million and a half copies worldwide.

01:10:40.000 So a lot of people need us to say it's not nearly as popular as American Idol, but we have enough people and we don't need a lot.

01:10:46.000 We just need 3% of the American population.

01:10:48.000 That was my next question for you, 3% won the Revolutionary War.

01:10:51.000 I want to give you the bottom line from you, the globalist strategy to try to bring down the US, the last piece in their puzzle.

01:11:00.000 You talked about it last year, how important it is for them to get this amnesty.

01:11:05.000 uh... to to to finally bring in the new world order with the North American Union and what you see the key things are we need to do as people of the world against our enemies only a couple hundred of them and what they're going to try well one of the key things we need to understand is how money works that's one of the things that one of the bankers who actually is a member of a billboard club and an intimate friend of mine he told me if you want to do something about these people you cannot stand up shoulder to shoulder with others Pick up a gun or an arm and try to fight them.

01:11:34.000 You can't physically win the battle.

01:11:36.000 What you need to do is to understand how money works.

01:11:38.000 And once you understand how money works for you, you can actually do something against these people.

01:11:43.000 Because what we're doing by putting money into major financial institutions, we're feeding the monster who sooner or later will destroy us.

01:11:50.000 So what we need to do, as he told me, is to take the money out of the bank and take the power of the money away from these people.

01:11:57.000 That'll be the first step.

01:11:58.000 And that is actually the anathema to what most people believe, because everybody thinks that the bank is the safest place to keep one's money.

01:12:04.000 Take the money out of the bank, convert it to gold, convert it to silver.

01:12:08.000 Don't give these people the power to destroy us.

01:12:12.000 Absolutely.

01:12:13.000 I mean, why leave it there where they have control of it?

01:12:16.000 I mean, obviously, hedge.

01:12:17.000 Be diversified, folks.

01:12:18.000 Most of us aren't diversified.

01:12:20.000 I'm so busy, I have no chance to diversify my meager nest egg.

01:12:23.000 Daniel, last year you spoke about the North American Union and the key to that.

01:12:28.000 Being the open borders, how important is that today?

01:12:32.000 I think it's more important than ever.

01:12:33.000 I think you're seeing what... Europe is a guinea pig.

01:12:35.000 Europe is an experiment.

01:12:36.000 You can see what is going on in Europe.

01:12:38.000 They're actually using the same blueprint and they're putting it into practice in the United States.

01:12:42.000 The American Union is... it's just a matter of time.

01:12:44.000 It's a question of time.

01:12:46.000 And I think unless people realize what is going on, this thing is The North American Free Trade Agreement, which was actually put into practice in the early 1990s, talked in clear details about how this whole thing was going towards North American Union, and you could see 10 years or 15 years later how we're almost there.

01:13:04.000 But again, I think there's still time for us to wake up, and this General Awakening hopefully will have enough reason for the people who actually stand Together and present this thing for action.

01:13:16.000 Shame reactions.

01:13:16.000 Absolutely.

01:13:17.000 You know, last year I was with you in Canada in Ottawa, their capital.

01:13:21.000 That's right.

01:13:21.000 And there was, it was in dozens of papers, I don't know, probably 20 papers up there.

01:13:27.000 Hundreds of websites, foreign news, but nothing in the U.S.

01:13:30.000 press.

01:13:31.000 press has always been the most locked down.

01:13:31.000 The U.S.

01:13:32.000 Now it's all over Dallas Morning News, all over other major U.S.

01:13:37.000 newspapers, just like Bilderberg and the Google Click News, folks.

01:13:40.000 It's all over Texas TV.

01:13:42.000 I mean, how big is the bill?

01:13:47.000 What are they saying?

01:13:49.000 What are they saying in the Dallas Morning News?

01:13:50.000 Okay, the Dallas Morning News is talking about how the Governor Rick Perry went over there and how it's a super secret meeting and it's been on television.

01:13:56.000 I'm going to play a TV clip here in a minute.

01:13:58.000 And other reports are admitting that the world's elite are meeting in secret.

01:14:02.000 And it's in quite a few U.S.

01:14:05.000 and British and other newspapers.

01:14:06.000 All I'm saying is we're seeing more coverage right now in one year than we've seen in decades combined.

01:14:12.000 So this is exponential.

01:14:14.000 What's it going to be next year?

01:14:17.000 I just hope we have enough time to put a stop to this.

01:14:20.000 But is that encouraging to you to see this type of coverage?

01:14:23.000 Well, it is.

01:14:24.000 But again, I think the interlock mechanisms that these people actually need to bring about their new world order, I think it's in place.

01:14:33.000 It's just a question of how quickly they can organize it.

01:14:35.000 Because again, one of the key issues is the power of money.

01:14:39.000 As long as we have the money, we more or less are free.

01:14:42.000 As soon as they destroy the economy, and that's one of the things that they've been talking about in Europe, Bringing the world, you were talking about Barroso a few minutes ago.

01:14:49.000 Now, Barroso, a few months back when they were presenting, unveiling the new European energy policy, talked about it's time to bring the world into the post-industrial age.

01:14:59.000 Now, when I heard that phrase, Alex, I almost fell off my chair.

01:15:03.000 That's what you talk about in Endgame.

01:15:05.000 This is the new feudal state.

01:15:07.000 This is where they see middle class as their enemy, whether you're Hispanic, black, white, They don't care, folks.

01:15:14.000 Understand that. 0.98

01:15:15.000 They want to destroy you.

01:15:16.000 Do you understand that?

01:15:18.000 That's exactly right.

01:15:19.000 The post-industrial age is a symmetrical twin to the pre-industrial age, where you and I worked the fields.

01:15:19.000 You just said it, Alex.

01:15:24.000 We died, our children worked the fields.

01:15:26.000 They died, their children worked the fields.

01:15:28.000 For an oligarchical elite of 1%.

01:15:30.000 Now, to bring the world to the post-industrial age, what you need to do is to destroy the world economy.

01:15:35.000 Now, they're saying it as an excuse.

01:15:37.000 That is a global warning.

01:15:40.000 The warning, that's what they're using as an excuse.

01:15:42.000 Needless to say, we know that is not the reason.

01:15:44.000 Now, to destroy the world economy, somebody will have to work in the post-industrial age.

01:15:48.000 My question to you and to the audience is, who is it going to be?

01:15:51.000 David Rockefeller or you and I?

01:15:54.000 Well, bottom line, look at Mexico as a model.

01:15:57.000 Richest country per capita in the world.

01:15:59.000 Triple the resources of the U.S.

01:16:01.000 They have the smallest and richest elite.

01:16:03.000 Most billionaires in the world, folks.

01:16:05.000 And it is a religion down there to have 50, and 100, and 200,000 acre ranches.

01:16:11.000 Vicente Fox has a 40,000 when he's low level.

01:16:14.000 And they literally, it's a religion.

01:16:16.000 Just like the British had. 1.00

01:16:18.000 A religion of their slaves out there working. 1.00

01:16:21.000 It's so sad. 0.68

01:16:23.000 And now they're using those very people who I want to be free, instead of having a revolution in Mexico, they're using them to slit the throat of America, Daniel. 0.71

01:16:31.000 Needless to say, Mexico, as an even-handed trading partner of the United States, is a great benefit to the United States and to Mexico.

01:16:38.000 But it's much better to have Mexico as a slave working as a third world wages. 1.00

01:16:42.000 Exactly. 0.95

01:16:42.000 Yes. 0.95

01:16:44.000 Exactly, instead of us working together to overthrow the government of Mexico that's corrupt, and to get our government back, here in the U.S.

01:16:51.000 Again, I'm talking about that as a microcosm.

01:16:53.000 Same thing's happening in Europe.

01:16:54.000 You wrote about how they do use the Muslim extremists, how the Bilderberg Group is behind them, because, again, it's a destabilizer for the Middle East. 0.99

01:17:01.000 Exactly.

01:17:02.000 And then if we criticize the, quote, Muslim extremists, some Muslims think, oh, we're against them.

01:17:06.000 You don't understand, folks, those revolutionaries are controlled by the globalists.

01:17:11.000 DanielLesterLund.com, spell that out for people, Daniel.

01:17:14.000 Daniel, E-S-T-U-L-I-N dot com.

01:17:19.000 And in closing, everybody should pray for your mother-in-law.

01:17:21.000 I want to thank you for coming on.

01:17:23.000 Do you think the Globalists are mad right now that all this coverage is out there?

01:17:29.000 I'm not sure, Alex.

01:17:31.000 The fact that Barroso, the President of the European Commission a few months back, actually showed his hand.

01:17:36.000 If you're in a poker game, you show your hand because no matter what the other one has, You can always win.

01:17:41.000 And what they've done a few months back is they actually showed their hand by saying that it's time to bring the world into the post-industrial age.

01:17:48.000 Now this is the first time, I think, in history that they've openly admitted what they've actually been trying to do.

01:17:53.000 And they're going to do that with a new carbon tax, which means one child policy, no more meat.

01:17:58.000 I mean, hundreds of rules.

01:17:59.000 It's all mainstream media now, folks.

01:18:02.000 When you hear carbon tax, oh, let's ban the light bulbs.

01:18:04.000 See, that sounds reasonable, but it's once they've set that precedent, folks, it's total feudalism, micromanagement of your life under new environmental laws.

01:18:14.000 Absolutely incredible.

01:18:16.000 Now, Daniel, where and when did Barroso say that?

01:18:19.000 Because I'm going to get that.

01:18:21.000 Well, he actually said it.

01:18:22.000 I got it off the BBC the first day.

01:18:24.000 I don't have the date right now, but he said it a few months ago at the unveiling of the latest Thank you so much for coming on.

01:18:31.000 Daniel, I have one final thing.

01:18:32.000 Okay, well stay there.

01:18:33.000 Stay there because we've got to come back to you.

01:18:35.000 Just a quick break if you want to finish up.

01:18:38.000 Daniel, I have one final phase.

01:18:39.000 Okay, well, stay there.

01:18:40.000 Stay there because we've got to come back to you just a quick break if you want to finish up.

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01:23:18.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

01:23:20.000 Thank you.

01:23:21.000 Daniel, finish up your point, my friend.

01:23:24.000 Just a couple of points before I go.

01:23:26.000 Bilderberg is not a conspiracy.

01:23:27.000 I think it's very, very important that people understand that.

01:23:30.000 They exist, they meet, and then what they decide is executed on the world stage annually.

01:23:35.000 And as most of the things that are actually decided are very, very short term, because there is no long term, I think we can actually see the things that I say, the things that Jim Tucker says, things that you do.

01:23:44.000 People can, we don't need to go 800 years into the future.

01:23:48.000 These are short, three, six, one year decisions, one year into the future decisions, and we can actually see just how right we are about the things that we say.

01:23:56.000 This is a world governing council.

01:23:59.000 Exactly.

01:24:00.000 This is the World Government Council run by the Europeans and the Americans, which is a NATO alliance.

01:24:04.000 Now, you said a few minutes ago, is there anything we can do?

01:24:06.000 Do we have a chance?

01:24:07.000 I think we do have a chance, but the thing is that these people are slightly ahead of us.

01:24:11.000 They started about 500 years ago, shortly after the Treaty of Florence was signed, which established the idea of nation-states.

01:24:17.000 So they've been at it for 500 years, and they know exactly what they want.

01:24:22.000 Now, the thing about us, the people who are trying to organize the resistance against what the Bill of Rights are trying to do, is that we're not as well organized, and needless to say, we don't have a purpose in mind.

01:24:32.000 They do.

01:24:32.000 Their idea is, not so much a one world government as a one world company.

01:24:36.000 That's their final objective.

01:24:37.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:24:38.000 A bunch of blocks owned and run by the same people.

01:24:43.000 Go ahead.

01:24:44.000 That's what George Ball said in 1968.

01:24:46.000 Ball was the sub-secretary of economic affairs of Johnson and Kennedy.

01:24:50.000 He said, how do we create a world company which will give orders to governments?

01:24:53.000 In other words, how do you create a Halliburton-type company which will supersede and empower every government on earth?

01:25:00.000 It's not up to God.

01:25:01.000 It's up to us to do something about this, and I think we can.

01:25:04.000 As long as we can stop watching American Idol and whatever else is out there, which has a lot to do with dumbing down of society and very little to do with the idea of freedom.

01:25:13.000 Absolutely.

01:25:14.000 Daniel Esselstyn, I want to get you back up in the next few weeks as soon as your family problems are concluded.

01:25:20.000 God bless you, my friend, and thank you for your great work.

01:25:22.000 Thanks so much for having me.

01:25:24.000 What a great gentleman.

01:25:25.000 I wanted to play this clip, but we don't have time now.

01:25:27.000 You can go up to PrisonPlanet.com and watch the Newsday Austin piece about Rick Perry and the Bilderberg Group.

01:25:33.000 I mean, this is on local Texas news.

01:25:36.000 By the way, I'll admit, we called him up and said yesterday and said, you know, it's in the Dallas Morning News that he went to this.

01:25:42.000 By the way, it's illegal.

01:25:43.000 It's a violation of the Logan Act.

01:25:45.000 We have articles on PrisonPlanet.com about the Logan Act being violated.

01:25:48.000 That needs to be gotten out to people.

01:25:50.000 He could get in trouble for this.

01:25:51.000 Hillary got fined $300,000.

01:25:54.000 A few years ago for this stuff.

01:25:55.000 Okay, this is serious.

01:25:57.000 We've got news about Giuliani being heckled and booed by 9-11 members, family members.

01:26:02.000 That is important.

01:26:03.000 So he stops using their name, you know, to wrap them around himself.

01:26:06.000 Help us get that out.

01:26:08.000 We've got this huge article that Aaron Dyke stayed up until the middle of the night doing last night.

01:26:14.000 It's unbelievable.

01:26:15.000 Governor Perry summoned to Bilderberg.

01:26:17.000 While insider trading charges mount in related Texas buyout, we're talking about indictments, folks, with Bilderberg members involved in his handing over of the water systems, the biggest power plant grab ever, the roads, everything.

01:26:29.000 I mean, folks, this is happening.

01:26:32.000 I mean, this is going on right now.

01:26:34.000 This is huge stuff. 0.98

01:26:35.000 I just want to hurt them. 0.53

01:26:37.000 I want to expose them.

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01:26:43.000 That is all I want.

01:26:44.000 Please help us at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

01:26:48.000 And I know my team works really hard, but we need to... I mean, look at this breaking news with what Tucker said last hour.

01:26:54.000 That's the stuff that's going to happen.

01:26:55.000 We need articles on that.

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01:27:01.000 JonesReport.com right now has the most reporting.

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01:27:07.000 Just help us get this out.

01:27:08.000 All I want to do is expose these people.

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01:27:13.000 That is what we're doing here, and they're evil. 0.96

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01:27:17.000 It's starting to come out in the news.

01:27:18.000 We need to arrest all these people. 0.99

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01:33:25.000 Just out of the gates, what is most important to Congressman Ron Paul and presidential candidate Ron Paul?

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01:34:41.000 Do we donate for bodyguards?

01:34:43.000 And I go, I don't want to get the congressman on and bring something like this up.

01:34:46.000 I go, he's a smart guy.

01:34:47.000 You know, he knows there's a risk.

01:34:49.000 You know, in everything you do, but obviously the new old order does not smile on people in the past who are actually making a run at their throat.

01:34:58.000 I think if you do win the nomination, let's be honest, I think you are going to be in danger sir.

01:35:03.000 They would like you to address that.

01:35:05.000 Well, I think that's real.

01:35:06.000 I think we're at a point right now where they're still hoping I will go away, but the fact that they've started to attack me means that we are annoying them to say the least.

01:35:16.000 But I'm still working on the assumption that my automobile may well be a lot more dangerous than me being attacked.

01:35:22.000 But like you say, if we get a little bit closer to really achieving success in the political sense, then I think there's reason to be concerned and to be alert.

01:35:33.000 Well, they went after George Washington.

01:35:35.000 They went after Andrew Jackson.

01:35:37.000 They've gone after a lot of people that are patriots.

01:35:40.000 And George Wallace, who wasn't exactly in our camp, but he sort of resented the establishment, and they finally did something with him, too.

01:35:47.000 Yeah, and look at the big kingfish.

01:35:50.000 Look at Mr. Long.

01:35:53.000 Mm-hmm, that's right.

01:35:54.000 They'll do it.

01:35:55.000 So there's a lot at stake.

01:35:57.000 You know, if we shake up the establishment, What is at stake for us is our freedom.

01:36:03.000 What is at stake for them is the money and the control and the power and the monetary system.

01:36:09.000 So this is high stakes.

01:36:11.000 So yes, they will be very determined, but I think right now they're going to just Try to ridicule and to, you know, make me a fringe candidate.

01:36:22.000 That's their approach.

01:36:23.000 Absolutely.

01:36:25.000 Coming into the debate, I know you've been pretty public about your strategy, liberty, freedom, less government, constitutional principles.

01:36:32.000 In the next debate, I talked to Aaron Russo.

01:36:34.000 He told me he talked to you.

01:36:35.000 Obviously, you probably, I've seen your campaign already attacking Giuliani.

01:36:39.000 I mean, that is the smart thing.

01:36:40.000 You don't need our advice, but what about going after him about the dust?

01:36:44.000 which he helped cover up, which they now admit, you know, major medical institutions that it's hurting their lungs, the asbestos, the concrete, the glass.

01:36:51.000 What about going after Giuliani on saying he's a hero of 9-11, as he did last time with you, when in major polls and articles, the firefighters and police unanimously pretty much hate his guts?

01:37:04.000 Well the likelihood of me initiating that in a debate where time is so limited and that takes a little bit of explanation, I'm not likely to.

01:37:12.000 The fact that he made a charge which was unbelievable that he had never heard our side of the story about how our foreign policy could contribute to our dislike of American government overseas, that was astounding.

01:37:29.000 So we did go after him, but I thought in a dignified fashion to point out to some very, very credible CIA agents who people that I've read and studied before supported my position.

01:37:43.000 So I will continue to do that to try to point out when they overstepped their bounds.

01:37:48.000 But I just don't think in 30 seconds or one minute I can make this the issue of the debate.

01:37:55.000 Unless it lends itself.

01:37:56.000 If I'm asked a question, obviously I can take advantage of the opportunity.

01:38:02.000 Well, if I was a betting man, I would guess he'll wrap himself in 9-11 again and bring up what a hero he is.

01:38:10.000 He said he was a victim, which he wasn't last time.

01:38:13.000 Just amazing stuff.

01:38:16.000 I'm just saying, if he brings that up and says, hey, why are they all mad at you for covering up the dust?

01:38:21.000 You knew about that.

01:38:22.000 I think that's a winner.

01:38:25.000 I think you're right.

01:38:26.000 I have to be ready to use it if the opportunity presents.

01:38:30.000 Obviously, Dr. Paul, I defer to your knowledge.

01:38:32.000 You've been up on the Hill for many years and you've experienced all this.

01:38:35.000 You know ten times with half your brain tied behind your back that I do about strategy.

01:38:40.000 What are you planning to bring up in the debate that's coming up next week?

01:38:45.000 You know, if I have an opportunity to direct this discussion, I would probably follow this line of thinking.

01:38:52.000 You know, I've made the case for the more arguments against our foreign policy, and the politics of it, how bad it is for us as Republicans, and how unconstitutional it is.

01:39:02.000 But I'm going to start talking more about, to sort of needle away at the conservatives, how this is not conservative.

01:39:10.000 We don't even have any money.

01:39:11.000 We borrow every penny to fight this war from the Chinese. 0.99

01:39:15.000 The Chinese can bring us to our knees because of our monetary system and our trade policies, and yet nobody says anything. 1.00

01:39:22.000 And the conservatives call this a conservative philosophy?

01:39:26.000 At the same time, they're running up these huge deficits.

01:39:28.000 I'm going to put the burden back on our Republican leadership for not being exactly what they say they are, and trying to make the point That instead of making me the strange Republican, I think I'm a mainstream Republican.

01:39:43.000 I still believe in balanced budgets.

01:39:45.000 I think they're radicals.

01:39:46.000 I think they're radical in their foreign policy.

01:39:48.000 I think they're radical in endorsing the Democratic proposals for entitlements.

01:39:53.000 They're radical when it comes to taxes and entitlements.

01:39:59.000 I need to run up these deficits and continue this fraud that exists in the Federal Reserve System to keep printing money to pay the bills, which literally wipes out the middle class.

01:40:10.000 So I'm going to emphasize the economics of this war, since we have talked about the other conditions that have given us trouble.

01:40:19.000 The dollar is continuing its unbelievable plunge.

01:40:24.000 And then I saw Bloomberg as the Mexicans are panicking because the peso is surging up the charts, gaining on the dollar.

01:40:32.000 This has never before happened.

01:40:35.000 And maybe that is a reflection of what they see coming with the North American Union.

01:40:39.000 Maybe they're betting they're going to be successful.

01:40:41.000 And you know, this immigration bill is pushing that bill along too, this whole idea of the North American Union.

01:40:47.000 And if they're going to combine our currencies, that means that you would be betting on the peso gaining against the dollar.

01:40:54.000 You know, it's a guessing game, too, because none of the currencies are anything other than paper currency, so there's a lot of political guesswork being done, and yet, I hope I'm wrong on that assessment, but it well could be some speculators thinking that they're going to be pushing us into this North American Union, which obviously we have to continue to fight.

01:41:15.000 Well, when the peso starts running up against the dollar, we know... There's something wrong.

01:41:19.000 Yeah, there's definitely something wrong.

01:41:23.000 Talking about the economy, I mean, now even Alan Greenspan is saying serious recession coming, which is what you've been saying for a few years.

01:41:31.000 And you said a few years ago you saw that happening in the next three to five years.

01:41:35.000 Do you still give us that prognosis, Doctor?

01:41:38.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:41:39.000 And, you know, the evidence today is there.

01:41:43.000 Our growth in the economy is .6% annualized, and those figures are always fudged to make it look better than it really is.

01:41:52.000 But there's an interesting statistic that shows that we're actually in negative growth because our population grows at 1.5%.

01:41:59.000 So if you want even growth, you know, just holding our own, you have to grow at 1.5%.

01:42:06.000 And yet we're at 0.6%.

01:42:09.000 So we're in negative growth right now in real terms.

01:42:12.000 Well, doesn't the federal government also cook and fix a lot of the economic indices and datum that they add into the whole inflation and growth scales?

01:42:24.000 Yeah, I don't really believe any of them and I don't know.

01:42:28.000 Who puts them all together and whether they sleep well at night, but I don't really trust him.

01:42:34.000 I think this website that John Williams has out is very good.

01:42:40.000 He keeps tabs on real growth and money supply.

01:42:43.000 He's the one that put this M3 money supply together, and he also talks about the PPI and CPI in real terms.

01:42:51.000 If you just use the old You know, we have an inflation rate of 7, 8, 9 percent, you know.

01:42:58.000 So, what happens is, it's sort of like the money supply.

01:43:02.000 They don't want us to know.

01:43:02.000 They cancel it or change it, and they do that with these other statistics, too.

01:43:06.000 But that's why I think people are much more disgruntled than the government statistics would indicate.

01:43:13.000 You know, everything is wonderful, according to government reports.

01:43:17.000 At the same time, you know the people and what they're complaining about, and they're not all that happy.

01:43:22.000 They know that their liberties are being undertaken and removed at the same time their economic conditions are getting worse.

01:43:30.000 Congressman, last year the Defense Authorization Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, moved us much closer to The president controlling the governors in emergencies, even environmental, then of course, and of course you've written about this, but for the listeners, recapping, we saw the Military Commissions Act, which all the top law professors looked at and said, yes, they strip citizens of citizenship and then can secretly use torture in a court of law.

01:43:56.000 Uh, in one of these kangaroo courts against you.

01:43:58.000 Now, with Presidential Decision Directive 51, Bush, quote, gave the presidency, I don't know how the president does that, the new power to circumvent Congress during, quote, environmental emergencies or any emergencies he sees fit.

01:44:12.000 In the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, they use the term during insurrection or rebellion.

01:44:20.000 So please speak to the overall dictatorship that you've talked about that now is being set up and then can you expand on that too?

01:44:28.000 Is the elite doing this so they can bankrupt the economy and fully suck us dry or are they doing it because they've drunkenly overspent and now they can't control it and they're afraid of when it implodes people are going to riot.

01:44:42.000 Can you speak to that?

01:44:43.000 I think my first guess would be that they're preparing for bad conditions, and they know what we know, although they deny it and wouldn't say it, and they expect turmoil.

01:44:53.000 And, you know, when the entitlement system breaks down, there's going to be a lot of chaos.

01:44:57.000 And I think they also know that the Chinese could bring us to our knees if they desire to, and they could destroy the dollar, and there's going to be a lot of unhappy people. 1.00

01:45:06.000 So, in some ways, the executive branch always overextends, but the Congress is derelict, because when they passed that change in the Insurrection Act, in the DOD budget, They literally said it would be okay, so it has become law now with this recent executive order.

01:45:23.000 He's just putting it down in black and white, in concrete, and he's telling us exactly how they can do it, and yet nobody seems to care.

01:45:32.000 Is that a public... I had a reporter here yesterday, and he said, is that hyperbole, Mr. Jones?

01:45:37.000 He said, I heard you say this is an open declaration of dictatorial powers.

01:45:43.000 I mean, that's what it is.

01:45:44.000 Yeah, but they don't say that.

01:45:46.000 They just say that they can take over the function, but it is military dictatorship, is what it is.

01:45:52.000 It's authority, and it doesn't have to go through the Congress.

01:45:55.000 But for those in Congress, I mean, for those of us that study this and are into this and are informed, it is an open declaration.

01:46:03.000 Well, yeah, even though I'm just saying they don't use those precise words, but in reality it is, you know, and they have this authority.

01:46:10.000 But it's been incremental.

01:46:12.000 This seems to be a big burst of energy to solidify the power in the executive branch.

01:46:19.000 And I guess we can't look into the minds and souls of everyone that's doing this, whether they say, oh, I love dictatorship, I want it, or whether they're just preparing for rough times and sincerely believe this is the way to do it.

01:46:32.000 Well, that's what concerns me, sir, is that, you know, we saw preparations 20, 30 years ago, but it was It was very small, it was emasculated, it wasn't robust.

01:46:41.000 Now, everything they do is clearly being done to set up classical police state, you know, frontline oppression that you've warned so much about.

01:46:50.000 And now they pass John Warner Defense Authorization Act, which openly says for insurrection and to dominate the public.

01:46:56.000 They pass the Military Commissions Act.

01:46:58.000 They do this.

01:46:59.000 I mean, do you think they're getting ready to try it?

01:47:01.000 Well, it's hard to say, but they are prepared.

01:47:03.000 And you know, this whole idea of getting rid of habeas corpus means that You know, if they need this type, or they're going to use this type of power, I mean, they're not going to want to be handicapped by all of us going before a judge and forcing them to explain why they're holding us.

01:47:20.000 Now they can hold an American citizen without habeas corpus. 0.71

01:47:25.000 That, to me, is one of the most atrocious changes in our law recently.

01:47:30.000 That and the change in our foreign policy where we start preemptive wars.

01:47:34.000 These two things, one international, one domestic, is a real threat to us. 0.84

01:47:38.000 Is that not what Hitler and Stalin did? 0.92

01:47:40.000 I mean, that's what Napoleon did.

01:47:42.000 When you start saying there's no habeas corpus, you're guilty until proven innocent, and I'm going to preemptively attack whoever I want, I mean, what is that called, sir?

01:47:50.000 Well, it is.

01:47:50.000 It's tyrannical.

01:47:53.000 For them to succeed, though, they're going to have to really attack the Second Amendment because that is the ultimate test of whether the American people will stand up to this abuse.

01:48:03.000 So we'll have to wait and see if there's any extra As a matter of fact, there are some gun laws being prepared now as a consequence of this recent school episode, so they are going to make some more attempt.

01:48:13.000 But still, the American people are armed, and we still have access to radio talk shows, and we still have the internet, so our voices can be heard, and I think that's a lot about what this campaign is about.

01:48:26.000 Congressman, is it fair to say that the Republic is in the fight of its life, literally for its very existence?

01:48:31.000 Well, I think so.

01:48:32.000 I think it's been going on a long time, but it seems to be coming to a head.

01:48:36.000 And that's why, you know, what we do now is crucial.

01:48:41.000 That's also the reason I'm encouraged that our information is getting out better than ever before, and the young people are waking up, and that's great.

01:48:50.000 Congressman, the Logan Act, the cover of the Dallas Morning News, Texas Governor Rick Perry to attend Bilderberg meeting, and they say it's super secret, and that he's flown over there to meet.

01:49:01.000 Yeah, well, that sure is a sign that he's very much involved in the international conspiracy.

01:49:07.000 And, of course, he's been the promoter of the highway.

01:49:10.000 But wasn't it pretty neat how the people in Texas spoke out and the legislature also all of a sudden, you know, backed away and put a moratorium on that?

01:49:19.000 That means that people do have a voice.

01:49:21.000 But this information about him going over there and violating, if that becomes the case, the Logan Act and getting involved, I'm just very impressed that that's in the ordinary media.

01:49:31.000 So that's, to me, I think that's encouraging, too.

01:49:35.000 So go ahead and ask another one, but I gotta go.

01:49:37.000 Okay, Congressman, stay there just one moment.

01:49:40.000 We've got you scheduled at the bottom of the hour.

01:49:42.000 If we're unable to, that's fine.

01:49:44.000 I need to speak to you for one moment off air.

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01:53:22.000 By that, he wasn't saying, I'm calling for one, because he had to go.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 We're talking about mainstream media, from the nightly news to human events, reporting on The fact that President Bush has just publicly announced he's a dictator before there was a cloak.

01:58:23.000 It was shrouded somewhat.

01:58:26.000 But now all pretenses have been abandoned.

01:58:30.000 And with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, with the Military Commissions Act, with Patriot Acts 1 and 1.5.

01:58:36.000 With all that we have seen, it is clear that they are At the bare minimum, considering open martial law.

01:58:50.000 Now, we're in martial law.

01:58:52.000 The mechanisms have been laid.

01:58:54.000 When CPS is grabbing children coast-to-coast without a judge, a jury, without due process, when police are openly on the street talking about framing people, when the government says, we don't care if it violates the law, we're just by fiat legalizing all the illegals and telling the police departments not to arrest them.

01:59:15.000 All the lawlessness that you've seen.

01:59:19.000 I mean, there's just so many examples by the government.

01:59:22.000 Well, they say it's not lawlessness because it is directives, it is policies of the state police that are chartered federally under federal funds and chartered under the War Powers Act of 33.

01:59:32.000 I'm sorry state police around the country, if you didn't know your history, let me just give it to you now.

01:59:39.000 All of this, but you see, they're now getting ready to exercise it and to have Bush announce With the military funding and are now in place and NORTHCOM set up, Homeland Security set up before 9-11.

01:59:50.000 That's now even been on ABC Nightly News that it was set up before 9-11.

01:59:54.000 Then they announced it after 9-11.

01:59:57.000 And now martial law has been set up, but now they're announcing it.

02:00:01.000 Hey, the governors, you have no authority, the president runs everything.

02:00:05.000 Congress, you have no authority.

02:00:07.000 Now understand, we're supposed to have co-equal branches of government.

02:00:11.000 Legislative, executive, and judicial.

02:00:16.000 No.

02:00:17.000 The President has literally crossed the Rubicon, as Caesar did when he brought his troops across that river, which violated the Roman Senate because they knew if a leader brought in his troops, Rome knew to not trust the military.

02:00:35.000 That's what overthrew all these other weaker nations. 0.97

02:00:37.000 Militaries were always running coups and crowning themselves king this, king that.

02:00:45.000 That's all Caesar means is king, emperor.

02:00:48.000 And so you weren't allowed to bring your troops over.

02:00:49.000 And sure enough, he brought them over, made himself dictator, and that was the beginning of the end of Rome.

02:00:55.000 Well, Caesar didn't cross the Rubicon here.

02:00:58.000 A group of private merchants and bankers took over in 1913, set up martial law in 33, set up shadow government in 47, and have expanded their power ever since, and are now just ready to go for broke.

02:01:11.000 Get rid of, you know, even their puppet government.

02:01:13.000 Get rid of the facade!

02:01:15.000 They're just, get that facade out of here!

02:01:18.000 Just get rid of it! 0.98

02:01:20.000 And they carried out the attacks of Oklahoma City and 9-11, 7-7, to scare everybody into going along with this, to acclimate you to it.

02:01:28.000 They had a thousand different TV programs, different episodes of every show you can imagine.

02:01:33.000 Torture, secret arrest, police, martial law, getting you acclimated.

02:01:38.000 And I don't know if they're going to do it, but they certainly are, certainly have spent trillions of dollars setting it up, and certainly are now announcing it. 0.98

02:01:48.000 Just letting Congress know, hey, by the way, you now are useless. 0.82

02:01:53.000 You now do nothing. 0.93

02:01:55.000 It's the first American empire openly announced.

02:01:58.000 I mean, Bush may go give a speech someday after an attack.

02:02:02.000 Newt goes off in L.A., Newt goes off in Chicago or Dallas.

02:02:05.000 Those are prime targets.

02:02:06.000 The CFRs brag, criminals love to brag about what they're going to hit.

02:02:09.000 Denver, Cleveland, Dallas, L.A., New York.

02:02:13.000 And he'll go in there and he'll give the speech, ladies and gentlemen.

02:02:16.000 And every CIA analyst, everybody in the government is going to know who did it.

02:02:21.000 But they'll fall down on their knees in front of him.

02:02:25.000 And all the evil we've seen is just going to pale in insignificance.

02:02:31.000 So I'm glad everybody now knows that we're under martial law.

02:02:34.000 Okay, where it's not coming, we're in martial law.

02:02:37.000 Bush is a dictator.

02:02:39.000 Now the question is, is he going to act like one?

02:02:41.000 Come on, is he going to use the powers?

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02:05:46.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:56.000 You talk about a war room.

02:06:09.000 During the break, I just learned some unbelievable information.

02:06:12.000 But I can't talk about it on air.

02:06:15.000 So, So I'll find out more during the next break and uh... find out what I can say, I'll just put it to you that way.

02:06:25.000 But amazing.

02:06:26.000 And yes, the person listening that just told me, don't worry I won't say anything.

02:06:30.000 Ah, it's crazy.

02:06:31.000 We've got Professor Stephen E. Jones waiting in the wings with the new Controlled demolition information he has.

02:06:39.000 The new white paper he's put out.

02:06:43.000 It's incredible.

02:06:44.000 And this is just news that the debunkers are running the other direction away from.

02:06:49.000 And that was the challenge we put out yesterday on PrisonPlanet.com as we challenged the debunkers to try to debunk this.

02:07:04.000 Just in closing, in the third hour, I'm going to talk more about this.

02:07:08.000 The headline from Global Research, New Presidential Directive Gives Bush Dictatorial Power, National Security Homeland Security Presidential Directive Establishes National Continuity Policy.

02:07:20.000 WorldNet Daily Headline, Bush Grants Presidency Extraordinary Powers, Order for Emergency Apparently Gives Authority Without Congressional Oversight.

02:07:28.000 And you can go to the whitehouse.gov and just read it.

02:07:31.000 Just type Presidential Directive 51 into Google, you'll be on the White House website.

02:07:37.000 And read it.

02:07:38.000 It's in no uncertain terms.

02:07:39.000 And it dovetails with everything else they've been doing.

02:07:42.000 And they're not setting this up for no reason.

02:07:46.000 This is very serious.

02:07:50.000 And now I'm glad that people are talking about it in grocery store lines, that I'm getting phone calls, you know, cluing me in on the new development.

02:07:56.000 It is not a new development.

02:08:00.000 It is simply the announcement By that, I mean, it's not a new development in the architecture of martial law.

02:08:08.000 It is a new development, though, that they are announcing.

02:08:10.000 That is a big new development.

02:08:13.000 And it just goes on.

02:08:17.000 It makes the National Continuity Coordinator under President Bush the most powerful person in the federal government.

02:08:23.000 In fact, it makes it like a legate.

02:08:25.000 Now, the term legate was the emperor would have one or two generally old, trusted men Who had been in power for 30-40 years, who could speak for the Emperors, so they could be sent to different corners of the Empire.

02:08:40.000 And then a General would have a Legate, a Centurion would have a Legate, but you had Imperial Legates, and you had Caesar level Legates, Senatorial Legates, and that's all this is, is it sets up an Imperial Legate, Who can then give legate power under the Emperor's direction.

02:08:59.000 And when I use terms like that, uh, Bush is the first Emperor of the United States.

02:09:04.000 That would be a nice headline.

02:09:05.000 But it's not a joke, you see.

02:09:07.000 I'm not saying have a headline like that because it's a joke.

02:09:11.000 Ron Paul, the last four or five times he's been on, by the way, he's on next Tuesday.

02:09:16.000 We got his campaign director on tomorrow, has said, we're in martial law, we're in tyranny, and Bush could become a dictator, they could put us in camps.

02:09:25.000 He said those exact words on the show, and then my writers are so restrained that they've written headlines that just say, Ron Paul warns of martial law.

02:09:36.000 So I'm done talking about that for now.

02:09:38.000 He's on vacation.

02:09:38.000 I didn't know that when he agreed to come on, so I'm sorry to, uh, when he's out on some family trip, twist his arm, but it's such big news.

02:09:46.000 I mean, it's huge!

02:09:48.000 And there it is, hidden in plain view, right in front of everybody, that, uh, the government blew up the towers and firebombed them, and, uh, just, I want to make this clear.

02:10:00.000 First off, he saw the airline aircraft government NASA photographs of the 2,500 degree molten steel, molten metal, in the basements of the wound.

02:10:14.000 And we know that a month later it was 2,000-something degrees, and five weeks later it was 2,000-something degrees.

02:10:22.000 I mean, this is heat levels that are just off the charts.

02:10:26.000 I mean, we're talking 500 plus degrees hotter than jet fuel even can burn.

02:10:32.000 You got people standing in the wounds of the buildings.

02:10:35.000 They're not burning, but giant four-foot-round columns all snap off and aerosolize.

02:10:40.000 But right before they snap off and the explosions start, you see founts, gouts of molten metal Burning, pouring out at the same light intensity and the same fluorescence and the same type of ejections of smoke, the signature of steel being melted in a thermate reaction.

02:11:02.000 Then they get all these different samples and then samples from ground zero victims and it's little perfectly spherical and some not perfectly spherical globulins of frozen metal.

02:11:13.000 You're going frozen.

02:11:13.000 It's not cold.

02:11:15.000 Steel freezes at another temperature, folks.

02:11:17.000 Not what water.

02:11:18.000 We tend to think in that term.

02:11:19.000 But it's frozen.

02:11:19.000 A piece of steel is frozen.

02:11:22.000 It's in its frozen form.

02:11:24.000 And it's got the elements in it, the exact signatures.

02:11:27.000 And when you see the video presentation we've got up on PrisonPlanet.tv, it's in the article that Paul wrote yesterday.

02:11:36.000 And by the way, Paul did weeks of research on the physicist's own research.

02:11:41.000 Uh, just so we would, you know, do a proper job on the article.

02:11:44.000 It was that important and it's up on PrisonPlanet.com right now in the News in Focus section.

02:11:52.000 This is information that the debunkers are running from.

02:11:56.000 And so joining us is Professor Stephen Jones.

02:11:59.000 Thank you for joining us, sir.

02:12:00.000 I'm glad to be here again, Alex.

02:12:02.000 How are you doing today?

02:12:03.000 Good, my friend.

02:12:04.000 I've tried to put it in a nutshell, but can you, as the doctor, as the physicist, can you condense down just in a maybe five-minute statement exactly how you got into this, what you discovered, and then the research every time is confirmed.

02:12:18.000 I mean, this is like a classical Sherlock Holmes deal, where it just keeps spinning.

02:12:23.000 Yeah, it is.

02:12:24.000 It just keeps rolling in, and now we're using state-of-the-art equipment, electron microscopy with electron microprobe.

02:12:35.000 And as I tell people when I talk about this, this will be on the exam.

02:12:38.000 So, you know, it's called EDS.

02:12:43.000 And energy dispersive spectroscopy.

02:12:46.000 You do a much better, actually Alex, you and Paul's article, Paul Watson there in Prison Planet, very well written.

02:12:55.000 But let me just see if I can then get at the results with this state-of-the-art equipment.

02:13:01.000 So now we're looking at these spheres.

02:13:06.000 I think I mentioned in my talk that I first saw spheres just, well several months ago now, By the naked eye, there's some of these spheres you can see.

02:13:17.000 They're about sixteenth of an inch in diameter.

02:13:19.000 And then there's a lot more, though, as you go smaller, which you look at with the electron microscope.

02:13:26.000 And then probe to look at the elements inside these spheres.

02:13:30.000 So the very fact that these are iron rich, I mean, you know, 50-75% iron, already tells you that there was a very high temperature reaction.

02:13:41.000 Something high temperature because, as you mentioned, iron melts at high temperature in steel, mostly iron.

02:13:49.000 But iron melts at around 2800 Fahrenheit.

02:13:54.000 1500 centigrade.

02:13:56.000 You just can't get anywhere near those temperatures with ordinary fires, that is, burning church at fuel, type of kerosene, or wood, paper, whatever you have in your office there.

02:14:11.000 not going to reach anywhere near the temperatures to melt.

02:14:16.000 And then volatilize, too, because you have these drops.

02:14:18.000 As you mentioned, frozen is a good word for these.

02:14:21.000 A liquid at one time, and so they form spheres or near spheres.

02:14:26.000 And many of these are really very spherical, by the way.

02:14:30.000 So this metal, when you get a drop of liquid, it pulls into a spherical shape because of surface tension, and then with iron and other metals in there, it hardens, it freezes, solidifies very quickly as it goes through the air.

02:14:48.000 Yeah.

02:14:49.000 And yeah, we're looking at these.

02:14:50.000 I found one today actually, it's on the electron microscope.

02:14:56.000 Well, I was looking over the shoulder of the guy who runs it and we found a hollow sphere that had cracked open so we can actually look inside one of these spheres that was hollow.

02:15:10.000 And I'm puzzling over just what that means to have a hollow sphere now.

02:15:15.000 But this sphere is only about, well, 50 microns, 70 microns across.

02:15:23.000 I'm looking at the photo here.

02:15:27.000 This is very tiny.

02:15:28.000 You couldn't see that with the naked eye.

02:15:30.000 Well, maybe just barely.

02:15:32.000 A little speck.

02:15:33.000 Well, the bottom line here is that you have temperatures way in excess of what these type of low-burning fires could do.

02:15:43.000 And we also visually see that the fires are almost out.

02:15:46.000 We have the audio of the firefighters, who are experts, saying that small fires can be knocked down by two teams.

02:15:52.000 And then suddenly these buildings Turned to dust and you've got founts of metal spraying out. 0.74

02:15:57.000 I mean, this is ridiculous!

02:15:59.000 This is in your face, and then now you've got all these samples, and then you show the chain of custody on this. 0.99

02:16:07.000 I mean, it's unbelievable!

02:16:08.000 I mean, this is something the debunkers don't want to touch, is it?

02:16:12.000 That's correct.

02:16:13.000 And look, we have another dust sample that we looked at yesterday from the World Trade Center.

02:16:17.000 It also shows the iron-rich spheres.

02:16:20.000 One thing I need to emphasize, Alex, as we talked about these little spheres in the dust, is that this is not just steel.

02:16:29.000 These spheres show high aluminum and sulfur content.

02:16:34.000 And so, that you wouldn't have in steel.

02:16:37.000 I mean, we're talking, the spheres we're looking at this morning... That's the signature of the accelerant in the thermate, and you've done the side-by-side thermate versus these spheres, and ladies and gentlemen, on these graphs, I mean, with metals, because I've researched this now and looked at it, they're always different.

02:16:52.000 These things fit like, like, like, like jaws of a Tyrannosaurus together.

02:16:57.000 I mean, they're exactly the same!

02:16:59.000 This is unbelievable!

02:17:00.000 Right, right.

02:17:01.000 Aluminum, sulfur, iron is the signature for thermate.

02:17:06.000 We've looked at the spheres made by thermate independently.

02:17:09.000 I did some experiments.

02:17:11.000 When thermate goes off, you get the flow and you get the sparks, which turn into spheres when you collect them, which I did.

02:17:17.000 They show the same signature, Alex.

02:17:21.000 That's the point.

02:17:21.000 I just don't know how the debunkers are going to get around this.

02:17:24.000 I don't know how jet fuel causes giant steel columns to fount and spark and spray molten metal everywhere.

02:17:32.000 I'm really going to need to figure that out because again, or the wood-burning stoves I know about, I don't know how they're not founting and exploding too.

02:17:40.000 Uh, because, you know, Mr. Gibson on Fox is still... still melts in fire now.

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02:21:53.000 By the way, I'm going to clear up some rumors right now I'm going to clear up some rumors right now because I just got another call during the break about it.

02:22:15.000 Thank you.

02:22:16.000 You are not going to see the Loose Change guys on The View tomorrow.

02:22:21.000 And people are calling me up saying, oh, because they put out a press release and you talked about it.

02:22:27.000 That's why it's canceled.

02:22:29.000 As of yesterday, it's still on your TiVo.

02:22:32.000 It's in your TV guide that Loose Change is going to be on there.

02:22:38.000 Okay, they called him, they told him, they put out a press release, ABC News put out a press release last Wednesday.

02:22:49.000 Okay, ABC News, abc.go.something.

02:22:54.000 In fact, I'm going to post it, that's it.

02:22:55.000 I'm going to post the ABC press release on jonesreport.com.

02:23:00.000 I'm going to have him post it in the next ten minutes.

02:23:02.000 We'll just put it up there without any comments, their press release.

02:23:07.000 I mean, that's not right to the guys that ABC announces it so that they've been being quiet about it.

02:23:13.000 And we believe one of the producers there leaked that so that there would be neocon heat and complaints, so it would get cancelled.

02:23:21.000 And that indeed is what happened.

02:23:23.000 But, I mean, I'm getting calls here, you know, and other Genesis hosts are going around saying bad stuff about the loose change guys.

02:23:30.000 It's just wrong.

02:23:32.000 That's why I don't particularly like some of those individuals.

02:23:34.000 It's just so annoying.

02:23:36.000 Let's stay focused on fighting the New World Order. 0.77

02:23:38.000 So there's a bunch of ninnying people who are salivating over getting on The View and basically they're just mad that it's not them or it's not William Rodriguez getting on. 0.70

02:23:48.000 They're just mad that it's William and the loose change guys that are scheduled.

02:23:53.000 It was ABC, they put out the press release, and they've backed it off, and I don't know what's going on.

02:23:58.000 Well, I do know what's going on, I'm not going to lie.

02:24:00.000 But I'm not going to talk about it, I'm just going to leave it alone, and I'm not going to worry about it.

02:24:04.000 Because we're getting the word out regardless.

02:24:05.000 We're winning the fight.

02:24:07.000 Professor Jones, I'm sorry for having you hold during that.

02:24:10.000 It's just, I don't like something said about my friends that isn't true.

02:24:12.000 Of course, you've been contacted by him, too.

02:24:16.000 I didn't ask you during the last break when you're going on, but I don't want to know, let's just leave it at that.

02:24:21.000 And see what happens, Professor Jones.

02:24:24.000 Getting back to the thermite, sir, what do we do with this evidence?

02:24:28.000 I mean, you've got it, you've written a new paper, it's out there, what do we do?

02:24:32.000 Okay, well let me put this in a little bit of historical perspective.

02:24:37.000 This truth about 9-11, Alex, is big, and it's, I believe, unstoppable at this point.

02:24:44.000 There is so much data now, not just the thermite, but also the collapse of Building 7 and And the put options.

02:24:52.000 I mean, we could go through the list.

02:24:54.000 But there's so many evidences now.

02:24:56.000 And of course, all the things going along with it.

02:24:59.000 As you mentioned, this NAU and what were you, I see you were talking about the martial law thing going on.

02:25:08.000 It's just amazing, appalling at the same time.

02:25:10.000 But it fits together as people start connecting the dots.

02:25:14.000 It can't be stopped.

02:25:15.000 And I was thinking this morning about Galileo.

02:25:18.000 He was part of a revolution in his day, which led to the Renaissance, by the way.

02:25:23.000 So, you know, it pulled people out of the Dark Ages, really, to get a new viewpoint and to realize the truth.

02:25:30.000 I'm actually kind of excited about that as I think about the historical parallels, the opportunities we have here to contribute to this truth effort.

02:25:41.000 Galileo Through his telescope, he pointed it at Jupiter, and he saw moons going around Jupiter.

02:25:49.000 Of course, at that time, everything was supposed to revolve around the Earth.

02:25:55.000 The Earth was the center of the universe.

02:25:58.000 Talk about an egocentric point of view, I guess, but that was the view in that day.

02:26:04.000 We now recognize that as a popular myth.

02:26:09.000 It wasn't true at all.

02:26:11.000 You know, it was widely accepted, just as the myth about 9-11 is widely accepted worldwide today, and yet it's breaking down, just as the Earth-centered view broke down in Galileo's day.

02:26:24.000 And what broke it down was observations such as he made, science.

02:26:29.000 And so he got out his telescope and he reported that, you know, look, these moons are going around Jupiter, they're not going around the Earth.

02:26:37.000 Furthermore, the Earth It makes, if you look at all the data, it makes sense.

02:26:41.000 The earth is going around the sun, not vice versa.

02:26:46.000 And of course, the authorities in his day didn't like his bringing out these facts and they threatened him.

02:26:54.000 You know, they threatened him with torture.

02:26:56.000 He was shown what it would be like. 0.64

02:26:58.000 Well, they said we're going to kill you and then they still put him on house arrest.

02:27:01.000 They still put him on house arrest.

02:27:04.000 He did verbally recant, and that is to say, he said, OK, I'm not going to fight this battle right now.

02:27:11.000 But as he left the trial there, he said, nevertheless, it does move.

02:27:16.000 That is, the Earth is really moving, not stationary at the center of things.

02:27:21.000 Sure there, let's talk more about Galileo, because to know the current times and the future, one only need understand the past.

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02:30:58.000 I'm Alex Jones, talking to Professor Stephen E. Jones, a doctor of physics, and he is one of the leading physicists in the world.

02:31:06.000 He doesn't like to toot his horn, but if you pull up, you know, the major scientific journals, he's been published in the biggest in the world.

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02:31:20.000 I mean, he's a top scientist.

02:31:23.000 And he wasn't told he was going to be killed, at least not by the government directly.

02:31:27.000 He wasn't sent away to be locked in his house, but he did, you know, get shown the door and told to move on, basically early retirement, for daring to say that the Earth is not the center of the universe, or for daring saying that, you know, basically I guess that the Pope isn't infallible.

02:31:46.000 And we're going to go back to him in just a moment.

02:31:49.000 I hope you will visit InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:31:53.000 On PrisonPlanet.com, in the News and Focus section, it's got yesterday's news.

02:31:57.000 And 9-1-1 debunkers hide from slam-dunk evidence of controlled demolition.

02:32:02.000 We put this out yesterday.

02:32:04.000 Electron microscope analysis of steel spheres from WTC site proves thermate, proves collapse of Twin Towers, was an act of deliberate arson.

02:32:14.000 This is big news!

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02:32:37.000 Order of Death hit number one two days ago.

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02:32:41.000 They knocked us out again and cheated, because they weren't watching, and it got up to number one, and they took it out.

02:32:47.000 Yeah, it's just so sick.

02:32:48.000 But it doesn't matter, because the truth will out in the end.

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02:34:15.000 And just another little side note, for those that are, for some reason, the 9/11 community, some of the people, Professor Jones has been lashed out in the past too, some of the very same crowd has been claiming that the Loose Change guys got everything canceled by going on my show last Friday and talking about some of the very same crowd has been claiming that the Loose Change guys got everything canceled We had them on two days after ABC News had a press release and announced it on The View.

02:34:41.000 It's in your TV guide right now if they're still coming on tomorrow.

02:34:44.000 That is not the case.

02:34:47.000 And William was going to be on with them.

02:34:49.000 William Rodriguez, one of the heroes of 9-11.

02:34:51.000 The last guy to get out alive.

02:34:53.000 But... Who knows if they're going to be on?

02:34:58.000 I mean, the word is I've got... You know what?

02:35:01.000 I'll make an announcement in the middle of the next hour.

02:35:03.000 I've got to make sure what I can talk about here.

02:35:05.000 Because it gets... I know a lot of stuff would be big headlines, but it's not just about making headlines here.

02:35:10.000 It's about...

02:35:12.000 My God, if ABC announces they're coming on next week, I'm guessing I'm not going to talk about it.

02:35:16.000 Because I'm evil if I do.

02:35:17.000 Really, it was about people in the Non-Living Truth Movement jealous that the guys, the men that made this film and Willie were going to be going on air.

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02:38:01.000 Please continue with Galileo.

02:38:03.000 Where do you see 9-11 Truth going?

02:38:05.000 Again, just in layman's terms, sir, how big this scientific, now peer-reviewed, with other scientists with you looking at it, chain of custody control, multiple samples, I mean, I just, I'm not trying to hype this, folks, this is huge!

02:38:21.000 Please continue.

02:38:23.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:38:24.000 You know, along with these other evidence, evidences that we've pulled together, Alex, through the years, yourself included, of course, we just have an overwhelming I'm very excited about the iron-rich spheres in the World Trade Center desk because they carry this message, you know, this is how a very high temperature is required to form me.

02:38:51.000 Look at me, see what I'm carrying, more information, and there's the sulfur and the aluminum and the iron in there.

02:38:58.000 And in a number of them, we also see potassium and manganese in large quantities.

02:39:03.000 I mean, where'd that come from, all this potassium?

02:39:06.000 Now explain, that's an unbelievable signature.

02:39:08.000 It is.

02:39:08.000 And by the way, with other molten steel, other molten alloys, you're never finding these stuff together.

02:39:13.000 That's right.

02:39:14.000 I mean, this is off the charts.

02:39:15.000 This fits exactly with the thermate test you've done.

02:39:18.000 It does exactly.

02:39:22.000 I've also melted steel.

02:39:23.000 We have a small sample of World Trade Center steel that was sent to us from some folks.

02:39:30.000 Maybe I won't say where, but I do right on the air because I have to get their permission.

02:39:35.000 But to be public, you do have chain of custody with photos and everything from the lady.

02:39:40.000 Briefly explain that.

02:39:41.000 It's a different... The steel... Let me just finish that thought.

02:39:46.000 So we melted some steel then with an oxy-acetylene torch and you do get sparks which form into spheres and these now are steel spheres because they're produced from the steel melted.

02:39:57.000 We compare those with the Particles found in the dust and we find The overwhelming majority of the particles in the dust do not look like steel spheres at all because they have this high aluminum and sulfur content along with the iron, which is the signature on the other hand for thermite.

02:40:18.000 So again, I want to emphasize that what we're seeing is not melted steel in the dust.

02:40:24.000 There will be some of those and we have found, I think, one out of now dozens of spheres that we've looked at.

02:40:33.000 That one that looks like steel.

02:40:35.000 You expect that because the thermite cuts through steel, so you're going to get some melted steel in there as well.

02:40:40.000 But predominantly it is not the melted steel, it's the residue that matches the chemical signature from thermate.

02:40:50.000 So, you know, I'm sorry that science, well, it's not so complicated really when you think about it.

02:40:57.000 You cut through steel with a chemical reaction, you're going to get mostly the chemical reactants.

02:41:03.000 And it's not like looking at thermate as some new thing.

02:41:06.000 It's the first thing they look at with arson, because arson is love.

02:41:10.000 Arsonists do it for pleasure.

02:41:13.000 Because they're pyromaniacs or whatever it's called.

02:41:16.000 I mean, just doing a Google search on thermate and arson, all the time they go buy it, they mix it, and they love to go burn it, and they love the explosive power of it, and so they always test steel in buildings that have been burned for this, but they didn't on this event, did they?

02:41:33.000 No, and that's a good point, Alex, that the termite is spelled out in the Fire code for investigations, NFPA 921, if you Google on that and then search for thermite, you'll find it's in there.

02:41:48.000 They're supposed to look for high-temperature accelerants.

02:41:51.000 In particular, thermite is specifically mentioned, along with magnesium.

02:41:56.000 You see those are two that are used.

02:41:58.000 But thermite, you can buy on eBay.

02:42:00.000 I mean, I'm sorry that it's so easily available, but it's a well-known reaction.

02:42:04.000 It's been used for over 100 years for good.

02:42:08.000 And it can also, of course, like most things, be used for evil as well, arson.

02:42:14.000 And that's what we're saying, is that now we have looked for these residues, and now that the secret's out, Alex, I'm hopeful that other scientists, I know of one group, I probably won't mention which university, but there is another university now looking at the spheres and the dust, and so we just have some Preliminary results.

02:42:38.000 But the point is, they will want to publish, we will want to publish in the scientific, the larger journals.

02:42:46.000 I will say that our Journal of 9-11 Studies has just taken off since January.

02:42:52.000 I was looking at the numbers.

02:42:54.000 I point people to that because if they want the, shall we say, the meat of this, the science, the rationale for These studies and these announcements, you go to the journal of 911studies.com.

02:43:09.000 That's where my latest paper is on these microspheres.

02:43:12.000 I talk about those there.

02:43:14.000 Anyway, we've had 43 papers just so far this year.

02:43:19.000 Last year we had 16 papers.

02:43:24.000 We started the journal last June.

02:43:28.000 16 papers last year and so far we've already had 43.

02:43:32.000 Give that website out again.

02:43:33.000 For some reason, InfoWars is linked to Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice.

02:43:37.000 Is that a good one to link to?

02:43:38.000 Well, yeah, but then they linked, and that is a good one, and they linked to the journal.

02:43:43.000 But the journal is quite independent.

02:43:45.000 No, I know your journal.

02:43:46.000 I guess my webmaster got that wrong.

02:43:48.000 I'll get a link up on InfoWars changed over to that.

02:43:52.000 Give that address out again for people.

02:43:54.000 Sure.

02:43:55.000 Journal of 9-1-1 Studies.

02:43:59.000 And it's just all one word there.

02:44:02.000 And I believe in the article we wrote about your findings that we do have a link in that one that's up on presentplanet.com.

02:44:08.000 Going back to Galileo.

02:44:09.000 Yes.

02:44:10.000 Just, I mean, not even too many years after he died, it did, you know, came out and people said, yes, the earth orbits the sun and the sun, you know, is orbiting, you know, around a larger, you know, galaxy.

02:44:22.000 Right.

02:44:22.000 All this came out.

02:44:25.000 And he was vindicated, and people don't remember the kooks and the folks that were wrong back then that tried to persecute him and other scientists.

02:44:33.000 They remember Galileo, and I would imagine you take some heart in that, not that this is about being remembered, but that knowing that the enemies of truth, they're going to be in the dustbin of history, and those of us that did take the bold stand, we're going to be on the winning side, even if it's long after we're dead, but I don't think we're going to have to wait that long on this, because the dam is breaking.

02:44:52.000 That's right.

02:44:53.000 You know, truth has that way, and we see it historically, Alex, that dictatorships often try to repress the truth because it threatens them.

02:45:02.000 But as the truth comes out, then people are freer.

02:45:06.000 Last time we had the Renaissance, and it just occurred to me as we've been chatting about this that, you know, if we can get the Not if we can.

02:45:15.000 As we get the truth out, because it's invincible, you see, historically.

02:45:19.000 It comes out.

02:45:19.000 People keep, they want the truth, they want freedom, and it comes out.

02:45:23.000 Those two go together.

02:45:24.000 So, I'm hopeful that, the question is timing, of course.

02:45:30.000 What kind of difficulties do we have to go through?

02:45:32.000 Do we have an Inquisition type thing, like they had back, you know, Dark Ages, to repress the truth and freedom?

02:45:40.000 Or can we get through that Faster this time and get on to a renaissance.

02:45:45.000 Look, this New World Order, as you mentioned, the powers that be, as people wake up to this, they must be terrified by the truth and by the concept of a renaissance that would clean the slate.

02:46:00.000 But that gives me hope!

02:46:04.000 I agree.

02:46:05.000 It gives me incredible hope.

02:46:06.000 I think it's very profound what you're saying.

02:46:09.000 We're on the same page here.

02:46:11.000 This whole police state apparatchik they're trying to put into place is an attempt to head off a new hyper-renaissance. 0.88

02:46:19.000 They've got to have ignorance and degradation.

02:46:21.000 Fox News though, almost every day now, says that fire does melt steel and that small fires can melt it.

02:46:29.000 And they just stated this fact.

02:46:31.000 I mean, that's like stating that crocodiles fly. 0.97

02:46:33.000 I mean, it's just... No, it's ridiculous. 0.82

02:46:37.000 But, you know, I think they're getting desperate to say such things. 0.99

02:46:42.000 Well, how dumb do they think their audience is? 0.99

02:46:44.000 I don't know. 0.94

02:46:45.000 I mean, you know, I guess they try to dumb down the The audience and so on but you know as the evidence builds and the facts it's just it's going to be unstoppable and I think there is hope of a we had to come up with a name for this now a second renaissance or a it may take several years to get there and there'll be difficulties I'm sure as we get as we break through but it I'm confident that it will come I'm not

02:47:15.000 I'm not worried about that at all.

02:47:16.000 I think there's a great light at the end of the tunnel here that we can press towards.

02:47:20.000 Well, there's the old saying that people don't even appreciate their freedom until somebody tries to take it away.

02:47:25.000 Exactly.

02:47:26.000 And the tighter they squeeze, the more resistance they're going to form.

02:47:29.000 I mean, people thought I was like a three-headed space alien ten years ago talking like this, and now, I mean, almost everybody I talk to knows there's a problem, and mainstream news says that the president is now a dictator.

02:47:41.000 Can you believe that he openly signed a presidential decision directive saying he's a dictator?

02:47:47.000 I saw that.

02:47:48.000 And it's amazing how blatant they're getting, frankly, on this.

02:47:52.000 And the NAUSPP, you know, that's been hidden, and they've worked toward it, but now it's coming out.

02:48:00.000 If we can just get people galvanized to work towards eliminating these steps that they're taking and then I think we can break through and clean the slate here and get some Well, not having a choice is a big motivator.

02:48:19.000 We don't have a choice.

02:48:21.000 It is a big motivator, Alex.

02:48:23.000 Listen, great talking to you.

02:48:25.000 Hey, I want to thank you so much for coming on and spending time with us.

02:48:29.000 And when we get back, I'm going to plug where people can go and get your latest paper.

02:48:33.000 And we'll talk to you soon.

02:48:35.000 Thanks for all the research.

02:48:36.000 Let me speak to you one minute off air, and we'll talk to you again in the future.

02:48:40.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:47.000 Alright, there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes of The View.

02:51:54.000 We can't tell you about a lot of it.

02:51:57.000 But William Rodriguez is going to pop in here in just a moment to try to fill us in.

02:52:00.000 I mean, obviously it's no secret now that he talks to Rosie, he's friends with her, he's met with her.

02:52:04.000 We've written an article about that.

02:52:06.000 And he was scheduled with a loose change crew to be on tomorrow.

02:52:09.000 That is not happening.

02:52:10.000 Though it's still on the main website of The View and on ABC television site.

02:52:17.000 And somehow I got accused of being the one that put this out.

02:52:20.000 It's not the case.

02:52:21.000 This was out days before we reported on it.

02:52:23.000 I know there's folks in 9-11 Truth that want to find some chink in my armor to claim I did something bad, but you've got to look for something else.

02:52:30.000 Frankly, there's plenty, too, if you knew where to look.

02:52:33.000 Nobody's perfect.

02:52:34.000 Let's go back to Professor Jones.

02:52:36.000 I'm going to let you go, sir.

02:52:37.000 I know you're on vacation, but tell us again about your new paper, where we can read it, on the Journal of 9-11 Studies.

02:52:44.000 Okay, thanks, Alex.

02:52:45.000 I would like to encourage people to look at... David Ray Griffin has a paper there this month, May, and I do, and you'll find papers by Kevin Ryan and Others that, you know, these are solid efforts at scientific truth and scholarship.

02:53:04.000 So the journal is simply journalof911studies.com and that'll get you right into that.

02:53:15.000 Nearly 60 papers now by scholars there, professors and engineers.

02:53:20.000 And by the way, people hear scientific paper, they think boring.

02:53:23.000 This is riveting stuff to get in there and look at the studies, look at the photos, look at the videos, look at all the exhibits, and really know the science, not just take our word for it.

02:53:34.000 Please, go read his paper, which is, you know, thanks to the internet, full of clips and audio and diagrams and scans.

02:53:44.000 Yeah, I appreciate that Alex.

02:53:45.000 We're trying to do that on the journal.

02:53:47.000 Since it's an electronic journal, we're able to bring in photos and clips.

02:53:53.000 William Rodriguez wants to say hi before you leave.

02:53:55.000 Let's bring him in.

02:53:56.000 William, say hi to Professor Jones.

02:53:59.000 Oh my God, what a beautiful opportunity to say hello to my great friend, Professor Jones.

02:54:05.000 It's great to talk to you, William.

02:54:07.000 Great to hear your voice.

02:54:08.000 You are so good, thank you.

02:54:09.000 We did a presentation, we met in Irwin, California.

02:54:12.000 Yeah, we did.

02:54:13.000 A month ago.

02:54:14.000 And it was such an experience, and him and his wife are just such a bunch of beautiful people.

02:54:19.000 I mean, I love them both.

02:54:20.000 Well, thank you.

02:54:21.000 I love you too, brother.

02:54:22.000 You know, we get, there's a camaraderie in the 9-11 Truth effort that is so important.

02:54:29.000 And, you know, we love Alex, too.

02:54:34.000 You may remember that at the time that we did the presentation in California, you told me that you were going to have this experiment working out, and basically you were going to put yourself in communicator for several months because you were going to be so involved and basically you were going to put yourself in communicator for several months because you And Professor Dr. Doc Rocky basically validated some of your information.

02:55:00.000 He did.

02:55:02.000 Right.

02:55:02.000 It was such a powerful thing.

02:55:03.000 It was powerful.

02:55:05.000 I had the first results.

02:55:07.000 You remember the aluminum and the sulfur along with the iron in those spheres.

02:55:12.000 in the dust.

02:55:12.000 I showed those to Doug Rocky, like you say, William.

02:55:15.000 And it was just within days that we got that.

02:55:19.000 And tears came to his eyes.

02:55:21.000 And he said, you know, he said, you've shown what these guys did.

02:55:26.000 I think he used a different word than guys.

02:55:28.000 But, you know.

02:55:30.000 And let me add to that, that the important thing of the work from Professor Jones, you know, I've been accused and basically words have been put in my mouth many times by debunkers and everybody else that I have said about, you know, basically explosives I never said that.

02:55:48.000 I am not an expert in explosives and that's where the professor and his studies and his You said you heard explosions before the plane hit.

02:55:56.000 I mean, that's just... Yeah, exactly.

02:55:57.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:55:58.000 Exactly.

02:55:59.000 And now we have the hard physical evidence to go along with it.

02:56:02.000 It's the work of physicists like Professor Jones that have come forward to validate some of that information.

02:56:08.000 Not me, because I'm just a simple janitor on the World Trade Center.

02:56:13.000 You're a great hero.

02:56:14.000 Well, listen, we've got to end this segment.

02:56:15.000 We're going to come back with William Rodriguez.

02:56:17.000 We've got to say bye to Professor Jones now, because he's got to go.

02:56:20.000 Professor Jones, thanks for coming on with us.

02:56:22.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:56:23.000 God bless.

02:56:23.000 We'll be right back.

02:56:25.000 If you would like a copy of this show, come to GCNlive.com and reserve it today.

Alex Jones Show - June 01, 2007

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