Alex Jones Show - 20070608_Fri_Alex

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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00:00:36.000 It is the eighth day of June 2007.

00:00:40.000 I bullhorned continually for more than three hours yesterday protesting Governor Rick Perry.

00:00:47.000 So I hope, it's a good thing it's a Friday, I'll get a one-day break tomorrow.

00:00:51.000 Hopefully my voice holds up, but we've got Ed and Elaine Brown coming on in a little while.

00:00:55.000 We are connected to their home line right now, thanks to Luke Rudowsky and fullwars.com, and we are Change.org Reporter, who is inside right now and on the line.

00:01:05.000 We're about to go to him.

00:01:08.000 Frankly, I'm a little ashamed of the Patriot Movement, and of just everybody, frankly.

00:01:15.000 Concern, including myself.

00:01:18.000 Because I didn't buy the propaganda completely, but I still hesitated for a moment when they lied to us.

00:01:27.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I have the AP articles here in front of me.

00:01:31.000 The state police and the feds said there was no siege, they were not on the property, they never had a plan to serve a search warrant, they never had a plan to seize the property, they never were there, that everyone's having a conspiracy theory.

00:01:43.000 This is when they block roads off a mile away, threw reporters out, Grabbed people, had two hovercraft, four armored vehicles, and over a hundred armed police.

00:01:55.000 This is when they cut the power, and cut the phone line.

00:02:01.000 I mean, now you can be completely surrounded with your phone line, and everything cut off, and if the feds say, oh no, we're not there, we just buy into it.

00:02:13.000 Okay, now we've got a lot clearer picture of what has actually transpired.

00:02:17.000 We're about to go to Luke Rudowsky.

00:02:20.000 And when Ed and Elaine Brown are finished doing interviews in a few minutes, they've got local television inside their house, we will also get Ed and Elaine Brown on.

00:02:30.000 For you, for those that just joined us, Ed and Elaine Brown have been beat up, they've been tortured, they've been harassed for years.

00:02:36.000 You can go to their blog and read what happened.

00:02:38.000 It all started just huge raids out of the blue to their house.

00:02:42.000 Years ago and so they've now been convicted of quote tax evasion to the private Federal Reserve and they've said this far and no further and so now when they try to start a new Waco the police surround you and they say we're not surrounding you we don't exist.

00:03:00.000 Last night we went to protest Rick Perry at a big charity ball he was having.

00:03:03.000 He was on the program cover.

00:03:05.000 We know employees inside who frankly were involved in management.

00:03:09.000 Rick Perry was there And the police came out and said, he's not here.

00:03:14.000 You're a conspiracy theorist.

00:03:16.000 And they said, we're going to arrest you if you don't leave on video.

00:03:19.000 Then later they told reporters when they showed up that it isn't true.

00:03:22.000 We're lying.

00:03:23.000 They never said it when we have it on video.

00:03:25.000 It's pure lying.

00:03:27.000 Nothing but lying.

00:03:29.000 Rick Perry doesn't exist.

00:03:31.000 We didn't threaten to arrest you.

00:03:32.000 There are no SWAT teams.

00:03:34.000 This is not an amnesty bill.

00:03:37.000 I mean, they are just I'm blown away by the level of lies.

00:03:42.000 I almost believed the police when they said, Rick Perry's not part of this.

00:03:45.000 Rick Perry's not on the roster. 0.98

00:03:49.000 You're crazy. 0.97

00:03:51.000 And I had to second check and then sure enough he was. 0.99

00:03:54.000 They even introduced him and were cheering for him inside.

00:03:56.000 We got that on video.

00:03:58.000 It's just they lie.

00:04:01.000 They love lying.

00:04:02.000 They figured out the key is lying to people.

00:04:04.000 Ed and Elaine Brown are under siege right now.

00:04:10.000 Their power's been cut, their phone's now been turned back on, their internet has been cut.

00:04:14.000 When Luke Radowski went in with live internet feed last night, arriving at around, what, 10 or 11 o'clock at night, from trying to leave New York at 5 o'clock rush hour, and as soon as they drove into the property, their internet cut off, all their internet feeds, Ed and Elaine Brown's internet, their wireless was cut off at the exact same time.

00:04:35.000 They're now jamming.

00:04:37.000 I don't know how long we'll be able to even have them on air with us.

00:04:40.000 They could attack him today, they could attack him next week, or a month from now when we all forget about it and move off the property.

00:04:46.000 I want to commend Luke Rudowsky and others that are with him.

00:04:49.000 I'm told Tom Foley's with him, and Matt Lepacek for their ongoing courage.

00:04:54.000 We'll talk to those guys on the other side.

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00:08:07.000 Massive breaking news.

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00:08:15.000 The Brown siege is worse than we thought. 0.63

00:08:20.000 And the gentleman that we had on Drew Rains yesterday, Who is a villain host for Jack McClam was accurate.

00:08:32.000 It was very accurate.

00:08:34.000 He did get a call from a militia member inside the house who doesn't wish to be named because of his family.

00:08:39.000 He's at another location nearby.

00:08:41.000 That shots were fired in the morning.

00:08:45.000 But with all the other things that were coming out and going out, I still didn't know if that was accurate or not.

00:08:50.000 Drew said he didn't know that was accurate.

00:08:53.000 And we've now confirmed, ladies and gentlemen, Marshall's fired rounds at Ed Brown's Dog Walker before planned siege.

00:09:04.000 And we have the video clip of that up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:09:07.000 We'll be playing that in about 30 minutes, the audio of that.

00:09:10.000 We have confirmed with Ed and Elaine Brown and InfoWars.com reporter on the scene, Luke Radowski, that indeed, that indeed, again I bullhorned over three hours yesterday, so bear with me, That indeed, this is the case.

00:09:30.000 Elaine was in the shower at that time.

00:09:32.000 Ed Brown did hear it.

00:09:34.000 Others inside the home, being called a compound, that's how they dehumanize you, did hear it as well.

00:09:40.000 And it's the classic thing, same thing on Ruby Ridge, where they sprayed, you know, the young boy in the back with bullets.

00:09:48.000 And then they tried to shoot people that went down there.

00:09:51.000 And we're going to have Jack McClellan on later, who's ended that siege with Colonel Bogright.

00:09:54.000 He was there.

00:09:55.000 He went into the house with Vicky Weaver's head blown off, basically, under the people with gangrene, babies.

00:10:02.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:10:04.000 We've dealt with this before, and we're trying to stop a revolution from exploding violently when this happens.

00:10:09.000 But we can only come in and pray for Ed and Wayne Brown, who are making their stand.

00:10:13.000 Live free or die.

00:10:14.000 Liberty or death, as he said yesterday.

00:10:16.000 When I was on the air with him, when we did an interview on RBN, from the 4 to 6 p.m.

00:10:21.000 show, this is just unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen.

00:10:25.000 And then the spin here, and we're going to them, but I want you to let this burn into your brain, the propaganda.

00:10:30.000 Just like Waco, when they ran down over a third of the building on the back side, and there's video of the dead bodies they're running over.

00:10:38.000 You have the blown up, you know, aerial photos that the FBI released, you can see dead bodies run over there.

00:10:44.000 And as they're running over bodies and machine gunning people, they're saying, this is not an assault, and they've got infantry troops and infantry maneuvers on the back flanks, using the APC's as cover, firing their M16's as Delta Force attacks.

00:10:58.000 Now, I'm telling you folks, they'll go in there, they'll gun down everyone, they'll burn that place to the ground, and they'll, while it's burning, they'll say it's not an assault.

00:11:06.000 Okay, this is a military tactic.

00:11:08.000 It's camouflage.

00:11:09.000 That's all it is, they will say.

00:11:11.000 And the state police are criminals in New Hampshire.

00:11:13.000 There's photos of them with their machine guns.

00:11:16.000 By the way, the feds called their vehicles tanks.

00:11:19.000 They have tanks out there.

00:11:20.000 That's AP.

00:11:22.000 The state police said they're tanks.

00:11:24.000 They said, oh, our tanks were up by their front gate to do reconnaissance.

00:11:28.000 We're not there for a siege.

00:11:29.000 They were on the property with ghillie suits.

00:11:32.000 Danny Riley only walked about 50 yards into the woods walking the dog at about 8 a.m.

00:11:39.000 and then somebody in a ghillie suit pops up right in front of him.

00:11:42.000 He turns and runs.

00:11:43.000 Bullets are fired.

00:11:44.000 He literally heard them whiz past his ear.

00:11:46.000 They tasered him, took him and then gave him a bus ticket and said get out of here.

00:11:52.000 He's lucky they didn't kill him and they're not as bad as the FBI guys at Ruby Ridge.

00:11:56.000 These are federal marshals who tend to not be as bad.

00:11:59.000 Uh, as FBI murder teams.

00:12:01.000 Uh, but I'm gonna shut up and go to Luke Rodowski.

00:12:04.000 Luke Rodowski!

00:12:05.000 Uh, there at the scene of what could be the new Wounded Knee or the new Waco.

00:12:10.000 Uh, you're there.

00:12:11.000 You got, uh, where they've been firing on people.

00:12:14.000 And that is confirmed now from triple sources.

00:12:16.000 That is confirmed.

00:12:18.000 And we're in the middle of this incredible psy-op where they're saying, we're not there.

00:12:22.000 We never planned anything.

00:12:23.000 We're not on the property.

00:12:24.000 That is a complete lie.

00:12:26.000 Luke Rodowski, you're there on the scene.

00:12:27.000 What does it look like?

00:12:28.000 What's happening?

00:12:29.000 I'm here right now, and I just came here on the scene actually last night.

00:12:33.000 Me and Matt Lipasek are here right now.

00:12:35.000 We came late last night, and we really couldn't sleep with what's going on here.

00:12:40.000 It's a very scary situation.

00:12:41.000 It's a very not understanding situation, and we were up just trying to take a look at things, and we were up all night just being on the lookout.

00:12:49.000 We saw some things in the bushes.

00:12:50.000 We saw some things in the trees, and And it's really weird here.

00:12:54.000 And you know, we're just here making sure Ed and Elaine Brown are safe.

00:12:57.000 We're going to keep looking out there.

00:12:58.000 We're going to keep reporting for you.

00:13:00.000 And we're here for their safety, man.

00:13:02.000 And no matter what happens, we're here.

00:13:05.000 Now, what did you see in the trees?

00:13:07.000 What did you see in the bushes?

00:13:08.000 We saw some random movements.

00:13:11.000 But we saw, you know, just some random movements in the trees and bushes that, you know, was pretty weird to me.

00:13:16.000 They're admittedly crawling all over the place out there, you know, with over 100 federal and state goons and locals, armored vehicles, aircraft.

00:13:27.000 Now this got aborted because Danny Riley, again, was walking the dog, and they were creeping up on the house doing reconnaissance.

00:13:36.000 We're about to move, clearly.

00:13:39.000 You say that when you got on the property, your wireless internet cut out, you were doing live webcam?

00:13:44.000 Yeah, that's the weird thing.

00:13:45.000 We were doing live video streaming just for our safety, just so people could watch everything that we're going through right there.

00:13:50.000 And as we were entering the house of Ed and Elaine Brown, we had perfect internet connection.

00:13:55.000 And as the minute we stepped into the house, the interconnection was lost.

00:13:59.000 The internet connection was dead.

00:14:00.000 The feds had probably planted a jammer in there.

00:14:03.000 But not only that, not only was our internet connection down, the same time Ed's internet connection was down at the same time.

00:14:09.000 So they both jammed my internet service, our broadband wireless card, and Ed's satellite internet at the same time.

00:14:16.000 And they love it.

00:14:16.000 It's all a laboratory.

00:14:18.000 They admit it.

00:14:19.000 To how to kill Americans, how to surround farmhouses nationwide, how to bring us to our knees, how to get our property. 0.60

00:14:25.000 I'll never forget the video I was shown and not allowed to put out publicly because it would have revealed who shot it.

00:14:30.000 This is about six years ago now of Marines, maybe seven, training in San Antonio to mow down hundreds of demonstrators.

00:14:38.000 They were role players.

00:14:39.000 And I've shot some of the video and put it out publicly, but this was even worse.

00:14:42.000 Because here they just said, you know, they said open fire.

00:14:47.000 There were peaceful protesters saying this is America.

00:14:49.000 Don't take our land.

00:14:50.000 And the U.S. 0.94

00:14:51.000 Marines practiced killing Americans. 1.00

00:14:54.000 And I mean, it's unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

00:14:57.000 They are training to kill you and your family. 1.00

00:15:00.000 They are training to take America down. 1.00

00:15:02.000 They are not our police anymore.

00:15:04.000 They are New World Order 110%. 0.79

00:15:07.000 And I'm not saying there aren't some good individual cops.

00:15:10.000 I'm telling you, big state police, federal forces, the marines, it is the facts.

00:15:17.000 Now in Police State 2000, I've got them training to kill Americans and admitting it and saying, watch us execute this guy, and it shows them doing mock interrogations and they're saying, I'm from San Francisco, and they're screaming, I'm an American citizen, help us, not the camp.

00:15:29.000 But, I mean, I've seen footage where they're practicing mowing us down, folks, and I mean with heavy machine guns.

00:15:36.000 Luke, now again, have you tried to get up to the higher ground, to the little watchtower they've got there at the home, the little observation tower?

00:15:46.000 Have you, you know, have you gone there?

00:15:48.000 I mean, what have you done?

00:15:50.000 Have you tried to boost it, or you had full shell boost link, and it just went dead?

00:15:57.000 We were at full boost.

00:15:59.000 We had full internet access.

00:16:00.000 And then it just shut down the minute we got in here.

00:16:04.000 And then later on that night, we started getting a signal and then losing it, getting a signal and losing it.

00:16:09.000 It just keeps going back and on right now.

00:16:12.000 Now we don't have it.

00:16:13.000 But it seems it's most likely they are jamming the internet signals.

00:16:18.000 Because we had perfect internet access coming down here.

00:16:21.000 And the minute we came in the house, we lost it.

00:16:23.000 We lost the live video feed that we had.

00:16:25.000 We have live We had live video.

00:16:27.000 We had live video.

00:16:27.000 WeAreChange.org on the internet.

00:16:30.000 Look, I want to just say this right here.

00:16:32.000 If you hadn't made your bones in the Info War, as somebody who in just the last couple of years has got more, more marks, you know, more Messerschmitts in the Info Wars, shot down, more Redcoats dealt with in the Info War. 0.87

00:16:45.000 If you were a fighter bomber, you'd just have hundreds of, you know, stickers, decals on the side for, you know, enemy sunk.

00:16:52.000 And I'm telling you right now, you are just becoming a super ace, very rapidly here, confronting Hillary, that's what Votie did, your organization, you guys confronting Giuliani twice, his people, just all these other presidential candidates, David Rockefeller, and now, doing something that I've only done a few times, gone into a house during a surrounded standoff, just again, I salute you.

00:17:17.000 I want to go ahead and bring up Ed and Elaine Brown.

00:17:20.000 We have Elaine Brown first. 1.00

00:17:21.000 Elaine, are you still there?

00:17:22.000 I'm here.

00:17:22.000 Elaine, what is it like for you to have them on your property, to have the shots being fired, and then to have them taser and grab Danny Riley, who we've got the number of, He's at work today.

00:17:35.000 We're going to try to get him on later.

00:17:36.000 What is it like for you to know all of this is going on and to know the feds are on the news saying, we never went out there.

00:17:44.000 There's no preparation for an assault when they'd already cut your power and cut your lines earlier.

00:17:50.000 Well, Alex, I'll tell you, it's pretty disheartening.

00:17:52.000 I mean, what they did to Danny was totally inexcusable.

00:17:56.000 I mean, he was standing there with his hands in front of, you know, held out in front of him, wrists together, saying, okay, you've got me, put the cuffs on, and then they come up and they tase him.

00:18:06.000 So this is just, you know, the boys with the toys.

00:18:10.000 I'm having fun.

00:18:10.000 They had no reason to taser them.

00:18:12.000 Well, these are men who like to hunt men.

00:18:15.000 These are hunters.

00:18:16.000 And most of these special ops type cops don't know that.

00:18:19.000 They're not conscious.

00:18:21.000 Literally, guys, go get a hog hunting lease.

00:18:23.000 Go get a deer hunting lease.

00:18:25.000 I mean, hunt hogs with spears. 0.91

00:18:27.000 And that's really, if you're into that, don't hunt us.

00:18:30.000 I mean, I've seen it so many times where they say, they just taser people for fun and laugh about it.

00:18:34.000 I've got video of it.

00:18:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:37.000 Criminals! 1.00

00:18:37.000 Total criminals! 1.00

00:18:39.000 Now I was watching Marshall Moynihan's interview on the internet this morning and it just brightened my eyes.

00:18:47.000 They were here to serve a seizure warrant.

00:18:50.000 They had at least 13 agents out along my driveway in full camouflage with rifles.

00:18:59.000 They had overhead Surveillance.

00:19:03.000 We were at least four APCs, multiple state police vehicles, four roadblocks on my road.

00:19:12.000 All this to serve a piece of paper?

00:19:14.000 Oh, come on. 1.00

00:19:15.000 How stupid are we? 1.00

00:19:16.000 If Danny had not accidentally walked into that, they would have been down here and we would probably be dead right now. 1.00

00:19:22.000 Because, as you know, we will not volunteer.

00:19:25.000 We will not go into their prisons for a non-crime.

00:19:29.000 We have committed no crime.

00:19:31.000 There's only two ways they can have jurisdiction over us, Ed Brown.

00:19:36.000 That is, either we submit and just give in and turn ourselves in, through volunteering, or by force of power.

00:19:45.000 Ed Brown, stay there.

00:19:46.000 I want to come right back to you, your wife Elaine Brown, an InforWars.com reporter on the scene with Matt LePacek.

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00:23:59.000 Massive news, ladies and gentlemen.

00:24:15.000 We have his video blog up on the web.

00:24:15.000 Confirmed.

00:24:18.000 We've confirmed from Ed and Elaine Brown.

00:24:20.000 We've confirmed by some of Danny Riley's friends as well that he briefed him afterwards.

00:24:24.000 We've got Danny's number.

00:24:25.000 We're going to be getting him on soon.

00:24:26.000 We're going to be airing that audio coming up in a little while.

00:24:29.000 Jack McClam is joining us.

00:24:30.000 He's really our resident expert.

00:24:32.000 He defused with Colonel Bo Grites.

00:24:35.000 Went into the house with the 500 armed troops aiming guns at them.

00:24:40.000 The entire Ruby Ridge situation.

00:24:42.000 He'll be joining us, contributing here on the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:46.000 Because folks, this could start a new revolution.

00:24:48.000 And the point here is, our revolution's already started.

00:24:51.000 We're already winning the Info War. 0.97

00:24:54.000 And if the Globalists attack us, we've defensively got to protect ourselves.

00:24:57.000 But we don't want to draw up first blood here.

00:24:59.000 So we're talking to Jack McClam.

00:25:01.000 Marshals fired rounds at Ed Brown's dog walker before planned siege.

00:25:09.000 I mean, it's a good headline, but I would change it to Ed Brown's... to the Brown's guest, who's walking the dog, but whatever.

00:25:09.000 I would change that.

00:25:18.000 And you can go read it right now on prisonplanet.com.

00:25:20.000 This is huge news.

00:25:21.000 Going back to Ed Brown.

00:25:23.000 Ed, please continue with what you're facing, sir, and how many armed thugs you saw in the aircraft, and your wife is saying that you did hear the shots.

00:25:32.000 This is just incredible.

00:25:33.000 I'll give you a quick chronology from the previous night.

00:25:37.000 Which was, we had, during the previous day, a couple of biplanes circling wide circles, two or three passes, then leave.

00:25:45.000 Then at nine, approximately 9.15 that night, the night before last, we saw a Global Hawk fly over the straight trajectory from west to east in a very, very bright light.

00:25:57.000 God, you'd almost think it was a flying saucer for crying out so weird.

00:26:01.000 Except that it had absolutely no sound coming out of it, flying at approximately 5,000 feet.

00:26:07.000 But then that was confirmed in fact, that they did have that go over the night before.

00:26:11.000 Somebody slipped on the tongue again. 0.99

00:26:13.000 By the way, the AP said that it was 50,000 feet to make you sound stupid, like you could see a plane that high. 0.98

00:26:18.000 Well, okay, if it's 50,000 feet or something, then that's right. 0.98

00:26:21.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's 5,000, you're right.

00:26:23.000 I'm just saying, that's how they twist things, but go ahead.

00:26:26.000 Yeah, who cares?

00:26:27.000 The fact of the matter is, they're using a very expensive aircraft to do what?

00:26:31.000 Take a picture of our beautiful property?

00:26:33.000 Our beautiful land here on the farm?

00:26:35.000 At any rate, that night after that, the power went off late in the evening, and then again in the middle of the night.

00:26:42.000 Of course, we're totally off the grid at any time that we wish to be.

00:26:46.000 Woke up the next morning.

00:26:48.000 When I did, I noticed that the dog was missing Zoe, along with my houseguest, Dean, out of New York.

00:26:55.000 Just a visiting plumber here, anyway, brought us some food over and stuff, you know.

00:27:00.000 And by the way, we weren't sure if he could be, I mean, I was just saying, obviously, looking at him, listening to him, now learning about him, assessing him, he's no fad, he's a hero.

00:27:09.000 Oh yeah, he's absolutely, absolutely, he's a hero.

00:27:12.000 He's a wonderful, wonderful man.

00:27:15.000 I stood on his steps for about a minute, looking to see if he was up by the barn or coming around the circle of my driveway, it's a big circle of driveway I have, and I didn't see him, but all of a sudden I heard, boom, boom, Off to the woods, up toward my mailbox.

00:27:29.000 Now of course I've been here 17 years, I know the sounds, I know the difference, and I've been around guns all my life.

00:27:34.000 So I know the sound of a gunshot.

00:27:36.000 But I heard the two shots, then I see the dog a few seconds later come tearing down the driveway, around the corner, and straight at me.

00:27:43.000 Now normally she would run right up to me, but instead she ran right by me and she ran into the house. 1.00

00:27:49.000 So then I knew there was something wrong there.

00:27:51.000 Of course, now you saw the video on the blog, then you can tell ya.

00:27:54.000 They did, in fact, fire.

00:27:55.000 He walked right into a total of 12 Jilly Seated Special Operations of Black Ops team that was approaching the house here.

00:28:05.000 And he, of course, is just walking the dog because it's a beautiful morning.

00:28:09.000 And he walked right into them.

00:28:11.000 Of course, that exposed their clandestine operation.

00:28:14.000 That point there, one of them stood up there and told him to freeze and get out of the ground and whatever the case may be.

00:28:19.000 And he did.

00:28:20.000 Of course, he panicked.

00:28:21.000 He said, don't kill me, don't kill me, I don't have any guns.

00:28:21.000 He turned and ran.

00:28:23.000 And of course, the story, uh, then the shots were fired.

00:28:26.000 So he reconfirmed the fact that what I did here was in fact shots.

00:28:31.000 And he said they literally went right by his ear.

00:28:33.000 And by the way, I've been... I've had idiots before when we're out hunting, shooting in my general direction, you do hear them fly right over you. 0.99

00:28:40.000 It's like a buzzing. 1.00

00:28:41.000 And he said he could even hear them hitting leaves right by his head.

00:28:45.000 Yep. 0.95

00:28:46.000 So that means to say that their intention to come down here was to kill us. 0.74

00:28:49.000 If they were going to kill a one-armed man at the end of my driveway, then they had intention to come down here and kill us.

00:28:56.000 So now, the whole complexion has changed.

00:29:00.000 Because now they lied to us.

00:29:02.000 They have no honor.

00:29:03.000 Now, to be clear, you didn't know until this video blog went up last night.

00:29:09.000 You just heard the shots, and that's why we got the militia report out of your house, that the gunshots had been heard, just as Drew Raines said, early in the morning, or right after light.

00:29:20.000 And then, now, we've got this up, and now, thank God they didn't kill him, because frankly, if it had been an FBI team, They would have put him on his knees and shot him two or three times in the back of the head.

00:29:32.000 It was probably federal marshals or it might have been a state police team, but they did taser him.

00:29:32.000 Oh, sure.

00:29:37.000 Now, reportedly, he got on his knees and put his hands up.

00:29:40.000 They went ahead and tasered him for pleasure purposes, but that's better than like they did to that Marine last year who did nothing when they got him on the ground and pumped three rounds right in his chest, point blank, for pleasure.

00:29:40.000 That wasn't enough.

00:29:50.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:11.000 Look at your women crying. 1.00

00:33:12.000 Look at your young men dying.

00:33:16.000 The way they've always done before To look at the hayweb reading Look at the fear we're feeding.

00:33:41.000 Look at the lives we're leading.

00:33:44.000 The way we've always done before My hands are tied Still looking for side to side As a one-to-one whispering for pride For the love of God and I've been right And all these things are swept aside

00:34:12.000 For bloody ass I can't deny And washed away by a genocide History hides the light of all civil Coming up in the third hour, we'll give you about a 20-30 minute report. 0.83

00:34:25.000 I want to have it at the big demonstration against what's happening at Brown, the Trans-Texas Corridor, the HPV, live cancer virus that is killing girls across the country. 0.99

00:34:34.000 That's Judicial Watch's own internal documents out of the CDC.

00:34:39.000 It was very fitting we bullhorned Perry at this mansion, then we went to a quote, children's charity.

00:34:44.000 So they do that to look good, and then they're really there killing the children. 0.98

00:34:48.000 These people are pure evil. 0.94

00:34:50.000 That's coming up. 0.83

00:34:50.000 Ed Brown's on with us. 0.83

00:34:52.000 We've also got Luke Rodowski, reporter for InfoWars.com, bravely there on the heels of being grabbed, and of course, Matt Lepacek being kidnapped by the state police in charge of the criminal trespass and Infowars.com camera being smashed.

00:35:07.000 We'll be talking to him as the show continues.

00:35:10.000 Ed Brown, Elaine Brown on the line right now.

00:35:12.000 I want to bring Jack McClam in a moment to debrief you guys or ask you any questions or with his experience from Ruby Ridge and of course many years on the Phoenix force in Vietnam, any advice he can give you.

00:35:23.000 But right now, Ed, finishing up what you were saying, sir.

00:35:28.000 Uh, finishing up, yes.

00:35:29.000 Obviously, they were heading down here.

00:35:31.000 They got exposed.

00:35:33.000 They couldn't do anything about it.

00:35:34.000 So, about 15 minutes after I heard the shot, the bug came back.

00:35:38.000 And then I got a phone call saying that they, uh, somebody had seen two APCs and, uh, six state police troopers heading our way.

00:35:47.000 Six cruisers heading our way.

00:35:49.000 So, I know that they were coming down here.

00:35:51.000 So, that was obviously the blue cameras at the end of the driveway, I thought.

00:35:54.000 But obviously they'd been being watched probably for two or three days previous because they knew we had a .50 caliber down here that they had obviously seen us firing the day before.

00:36:03.000 And I guess that made them a little apprehensive.

00:36:06.000 Then they had, uh, were down at the office in West Lebanon and they totally surrounded that empty building with the same amount of firepower and personnel carriers and so on.

00:36:20.000 Working in collusion with Massachusetts State Police, Maine State Police, New Hampshire State Police, a few federal officers, and Lebanon Police Department.

00:36:32.000 Just for an empty building.

00:36:33.000 That's the point here.

00:36:34.000 And the fact that men in Massachusetts were in here colluding with them.

00:36:38.000 Yeah, that's totally, totally violation of the 10th Amendment.

00:36:41.000 Completely criminal.

00:36:42.000 Now it's a trans-state multi-jurisdictional task force.

00:36:46.000 And if you saw what you thought looked like a Global Hawk or some type of predator drone...

00:36:52.000 Which we know there are over a hundred of them now patrolling the U.S.

00:36:55.000 This is definitely a federal operation, just like Waco and Ruby Ridge, guaranteed it's going to end up being CENTCOM running this whole thing. 0.81

00:37:04.000 Again, Newsweek reported what we told you, what Patriots told you, during the Waco siege, and that was Israelis, French, Russian, Dutch, British.

00:37:15.000 It's a big laboratory.

00:37:17.000 They call them war fighting, domestic asymmetrical war fighting laboratories.

00:37:22.000 But they do it in the real situation.

00:37:25.000 Really, really well.

00:37:25.000 They flew their flag over the Branch Davidian church.

00:37:28.000 They held up skulls of dead children.

00:37:30.000 They burned out children.

00:37:32.000 They put a shape charge on top of the church records vault, the only concrete area where they went for shelter from the gas.

00:37:39.000 And this is how these guys want to be manly.

00:37:44.000 Most of them didn't have fathers at home.

00:37:46.000 Most of them never got to really become men.

00:37:49.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, I didn't have a father or mother either.

00:37:53.000 I didn't go that way.

00:37:55.000 Well, I'm not saying people are bad if they don't have a father or a mother.

00:37:58.000 My point is I've done the assessment of a lot of these guys and so they want to go out and make their bones, okay?

00:38:07.000 They're not charging German machine gun nests.

00:38:09.000 They're not fighting real warriors. 0.68

00:38:11.000 They like to go around killing families and tasering people. 1.00

00:38:15.000 Before I start ranting and raving, Ed, finish up your point and I'm going to bring Jack McClam up.

00:38:19.000 Okay.

00:38:20.000 The point is that we don't have warrior class people here fighting a legitimate war. 0.99

00:38:24.000 What we have here are a bunch of cowards. 0.91

00:38:27.000 That's why they're sneaking around and using an omnipotent type of power or force, a number of people, like the Russians did, the KGB did, and so on, military force. 0.98

00:38:38.000 We don't care any longer, Alex.

00:38:40.000 We're all done.

00:38:41.000 We're through talking with these people, and I don't mean just my wife and myself here.

00:38:44.000 I'm talking nationwide.

00:38:46.000 There's an under-the-radar number of people here just trying to absorb everyone that gets involved with seditionist manner in this country.

00:38:56.000 And we are identifying who they are.

00:38:59.000 Also, Ed, you know the local state police and others are on record saying they are trying to keep, quote, aid from getting to you.

00:39:08.000 They are trying to keep anyone from coming in, any media from coming in to cover what's happening.

00:39:13.000 But it's too late already.

00:39:13.000 Yes, sir.

00:39:16.000 I mean, it's really way too late for them now.

00:39:19.000 Anything happens to my wife and myself because of their actions, we will be reciprocal.

00:39:23.000 We don't have any choice any longer.

00:39:25.000 For the Brown, Mr. and Mrs. Brown here, and our cat and our dog, we will protect for the sake of our community and our nation.

00:39:34.000 That's why we did this in the first place.

00:39:35.000 Remember, as the United States Constitutional Arranger of Law, lawfully, the TXU 42-453 by the Library of Congress, We are obligated to protect this nation under a lawful form of government.

00:39:47.000 And we will do so at any and all cost at this point.

00:39:50.000 Ed, you're right.

00:39:51.000 There's no doubt that a foreign private corporation, publicly now, owns and runs the government and is completely illegitimate. 0.75

00:39:59.000 And just because a bunch of brainwashed state police and feds are ignorant of that doesn't make it lawful what they're doing.

00:40:06.000 I've gotten all these emails and seen blog posts.

00:40:08.000 We're about to go to Jack McClam.

00:40:10.000 All these emails and posts and everything else saying that, well what are we going to run the government on?

00:40:19.000 They don't know there are hundreds of other lawful taxes.

00:40:22.000 They don't understand that the feds admit that every cent of your income tax goes to debt.

00:40:27.000 Which is designed to bring money out of the economy in the fiat systems maintenance.

00:40:32.000 This is... Ron Paul's written about it.

00:40:34.000 It's an absolute fact.

00:40:35.000 They don't understand that this funds the false corporate government.

00:40:40.000 Let's bring up Jack McClam.

00:40:41.000 Jack, things have gotten a lot more serious now that we've learned and confirmed what Ed Brown did here yesterday was the gunshots.

00:40:48.000 They fired at this guy, he hit the ground, put his hands up, they tasered him, then they interrogated him, gave him a bus ticket and told him don't come back, and he's now put up a video blog, and he's Danny Riley, and I assessed him, I'm 99% sure this is a plumber from New Jersey, this is the real deal, a great patriot, a hero.

00:41:09.000 What does this mean now, Jack?

00:41:12.000 Well, this is coming from the top of our government, from what you're telling me about using the drones and the satellites and everything.

00:41:22.000 This is being directed by the very top of our government.

00:41:28.000 We've got to try to think about what they're trying to do with this.

00:41:32.000 Are they trying to get us to all react and go there with our guns and start a revolution?

00:41:37.000 Yes, sir.

00:41:37.000 Yes, they are.

00:41:38.000 I think that's what they're trying to do.

00:41:40.000 I know that, but remember, understand that my primary... Jack, just a moment.

00:41:44.000 My primary target, that's the word they like to use, my primary target are the Freemasonry in this country.

00:41:51.000 A lot of people don't like to say that, but we know for a fact of record that is our problem.

00:41:55.000 We studied them intensively for over 10 years.

00:41:58.000 We now know for a fact that that's what's coming right from the top.

00:42:02.000 You're right.

00:42:03.000 Bush and the rest of them.

00:42:04.000 Yes.

00:42:05.000 When I was in the military and in law enforcement, the top people in law enforcement and in the military are in the Freemasons.

00:42:14.000 There you go.

00:42:15.000 All of them are 33rd degree or higher.

00:42:17.000 Or higher.

00:42:18.000 And they're Satanists.

00:42:21.000 Yes, they are.

00:42:22.000 But the equipment they're bringing on you, brother, tells me that it's operating from beyond the White House.

00:42:29.000 You know, above the White House.

00:42:30.000 Right from the Vatican or right from England.

00:42:32.000 We understand.

00:42:33.000 From Germany.

00:42:36.000 So, this is the situation.

00:42:38.000 They want an incident.

00:42:40.000 to cause all the American people to go your way with guns so they can call it an insurrection and put us all under martial law and the constitution for good.

00:42:50.000 Bush will stay in as emperor Of America, there won't be any more elections.

00:42:55.000 Let me just add something, and then let Ed Brown chime in here.

00:43:00.000 We've seen the entire preparation on this.

00:43:03.000 We've seen the Military Commissions Act, who seize and arrest and secretly torture and execute American citizens, says it word for word. 0.50

00:43:10.000 All the top lawyers have read it and agree with our analysis that we put out first here.

00:43:13.000 Just on record, we don't make this stuff up, folks.

00:43:16.000 Weeks after we did the analysis, exact mirror analysis from top Princeton lawyers, professors, jurisprudence, you name it.

00:43:24.000 Uh, then...

00:43:25.000 On top of that, we saw the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

00:43:29.000 More important, it actually put us under activated martial law, not just the soft overall emergency martial law we've been under since 1933 in the War Powers Act.

00:43:38.000 And it actually removed the governors during insurrection or any other rioting or any other protest.

00:43:46.000 This is all word for word.

00:43:47.000 And now Bush got the funding last year with John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

00:43:52.000 Now on May 9th, he activated PDD 51 and openly announced himself over the Congress.

00:44:00.000 They're now cut out of continuity of government, total treason.

00:44:02.000 Headline, the President granted himself new powers.

00:44:06.000 That's called dictatorship.

00:44:07.000 Yes it is.

00:44:08.000 Ed Brown?

00:44:09.000 Yes it is.

00:44:11.000 It's over, folks.

00:44:12.000 For all intents and purposes, there is no law left in this country.

00:44:16.000 It's a done deal.

00:44:17.000 Well, Ed, I can't blame you and I can only commend you for how they beat you up and how they assaulted you and all the hell you've been through.

00:44:24.000 Maybe we should briefly recap that.

00:44:26.000 You finally just said, and you finally said, I'm going to my property, I'm holding up, stay away from me, leave me alone, I'm just a free human being, you know, I'm Edward.

00:44:36.000 And I'm a creature of God, just leave me alone, I don't belong to you people.

00:44:39.000 And then here they come with hundreds of people, and six APCs, and fixed-wing aircraft, and drones, and helicopters, and you're saying, leave me alone.

00:44:49.000 Defense is totally honorable, and we understand, but do you see what Jack's saying?

00:44:54.000 That it's clear that we're beating them in the info war, so they want to overturn the chessboard, they want to cheat, and just grab our king off the table with their hand and claim they won when we got them in check.

00:45:07.000 So my question is, what do we do about this?

00:45:09.000 How do we try to defuse this? 1.00

00:45:11.000 Because I know you're ready to die, but how do we keep them from having the pleasure of coming in and killing you and your wife and 10 or 15 of them die, but the globalists don't care about their little idiots? 1.00

00:45:20.000 What we have to do, Alex, is we have to now focus on the Illuminati slash Zionist slash Freemasons. 1.00

00:45:31.000 this is Freemasonry at its finest hour. 1.00

00:45:34.000 But it's its last hour, and it's too stupid to know any better. 0.97

00:45:37.000 We must focus on those people who are the members of it, and let's bring it to their houses. 0.99

00:45:42.000 Let's bring it into their businesses. 0.99

00:45:44.000 Let's bring it... They want to make it personal?

00:45:46.000 Let's make it personal.

00:45:48.000 No more talking about this thing.

00:45:50.000 I would like to see everybody go absolutely silent.

00:45:53.000 Identify who these people are in your own town, county, state, and country.

00:45:58.000 Worldwide.

00:45:59.000 And one day when they push too far, because no one's going to set this off except them.

00:46:04.000 So when critical mass forms up and it pops, because nobody knows when critical mass is going to pop, like they found out during the Russian Revolution.

00:46:12.000 Ceausescu, Ceausescu.

00:46:14.000 Yes, so when this thing pops, everybody now in their own town goes and warms up every Freemason that they know, put them behind bars, and then Well, Judge, I'd be laughing at him for the rest of my life.

00:46:25.000 You're welcome to the problem.

00:46:26.000 But see, Ed, here's the problem.

00:46:27.000 We've got to stay under the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:46:29.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:46:31.000 But I want to be clear here on this.

00:46:32.000 This is how their pyramidal structure works.

00:46:35.000 99% of the Masons never get above the 32nd degree. 0.99

00:46:42.000 They believe they're worshiping Jesus.

00:46:44.000 They have no idea that at the higher degrees it's open worship of Lucifer.

00:46:49.000 They haven't read what their own Grand Supreme Masons have written, that they do worship the devil. 0.55

00:46:53.000 Jack, you want to break that down?

00:46:58.000 Jack McClam?

00:46:59.000 Jack may have walked away from the phone.

00:47:01.000 I'm here, brother.

00:47:02.000 I mean, the key here is it's compartmentalized.

00:47:05.000 We say all the nations.

00:47:06.000 I mean, Ed, you've studied them. 1.00

00:47:07.000 You know that most of them are useful idiots and don't know. 1.00

00:47:11.000 Yes, I deal with the useful idiots every day here at our two police and military associations. 1.00

00:47:17.000 The guys at the bottom tell me, and of course I saw this when I was in law enforcement in the 0.99

00:47:24.000 Six largest city, Phoenix, Arizona, that they're promoting the most evil and criminal guys up to sergeant, lieutenant, captain, chief, you know, on up through the ranks in local law enforcement, in state law enforcement, and in the federal law enforcement, of course, because it's pure pure satanism and criminality at the very top.

00:47:51.000 So they only trust those that are criminals.

00:47:54.000 And so, but what's the problem is, like in the Phoenix Police Department, they would call us in for in-service training, and they would teach us how we must think as a group, like a gang.

00:48:10.000 So the guys that are the beat cops and the guys at the lower levels, which you will not have there, they'll have them directing traffic.

00:48:18.000 These guys will be directing traffic.

00:48:20.000 They always have the sheriff and his team out directing traffic.

00:48:24.000 And they bring in the assassins in the SWAT teams.

00:48:29.000 They're top assassins that'll do anything. 0.97

00:48:31.000 They'll shoot their mother for a nickel and see which way she'll fall. 1.00

00:48:36.000 And those are the guys that are surrounding your house right now.

00:48:40.000 But the regular guys out there who haven't proven yet that they're willing to do anything, if they're told to do it, they won't allow them near you.

00:48:50.000 And I saw them up at Ruby Ridge on the outskirts when we finally brought the Weaver family out and walking down the trail with them in our arms, the little girls.

00:49:00.000 A lot of these guys in the face paint and the ghillie suits were literally crying.

00:49:06.000 The tears were pouring out of their eyes because they truly thought they were going to be told to come in and kill all of us.

00:49:13.000 And, um, but they won't allow those guys around you. 0.94

00:49:16.000 You see, they, they want guys in there that when they tell you, tell them to hit you and kill you, that there is no qualms about it at all.

00:49:24.000 In other words, it's like 50 or a hundred lawn Haruchis, you know? 0.92

00:49:30.000 And the guy that shot Vicky Weaver and shot half her face off while she was holding her baby, I saw her body underneath the table there.

00:49:38.000 Mr. Haruchi?

00:49:39.000 Yeah, Horiuchi Yamauchi was the assassin who said on the witness stand that he would do it all again.

00:49:50.000 They promoted him to lieutenant for what he did to Vicky and the family.

00:49:56.000 So those are the guys that are surrounding you right now, but here's the thing to keep in mind.

00:50:02.000 If they do not get to use you, To summon the people across the nation to come there with their guns so that the president can say to all the public, ah, here comes the terrorists.

00:50:18.000 Here comes the terrorists in to help this terrorist.

00:50:21.000 It's probably Al-Qaeda in among them.

00:50:24.000 It's an insurrection.

00:50:25.000 I must put the nation under martial law.

00:50:29.000 That's exactly what they hope happens here.

00:50:33.000 Because they've got to stop the Infowar. 1.00

00:50:36.000 We're winning that and they know it.

00:50:38.000 They've got to use you.

00:50:39.000 Ed Brown, Jack McClain, stay with us.

00:50:41.000 Let's come back and give Ed Brown a chance to respond to all this and ask Ed Brown where he thinks all this is going to go.

00:50:46.000 Ed and Elaine Brown, also Luke Radowsky reporting from Infowars.com.

00:50:50.000 Jack McClain, GCN Radio host reporting here as well with his great expert analysis.

00:50:55.000 couldn't have a better expert on this than Jack McClam right in the middle of Ruby Ridge.

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00:54:05.000 Amen.

00:54:06.000 Thank you.

00:54:08.000 Yeah, they build the big guns.

00:54:12.000 Yeah, they build the death planes.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, they build all the bombs.

00:54:19.000 Yeah, they hide behind walls.

00:54:25.000 Yeah, they hide behind desks. 0.94

00:54:29.000 I just want you to know I can see through your masks.

00:54:36.000 Welcome back.

00:54:36.000 Let's go ahead and go to Ed Brown, literally under siege.

00:54:42.000 Shots fired.

00:54:45.000 with my world.

00:54:47.000 Like it's your little toy.

00:54:51.000 Welcome back.

00:54:52.000 You put a guy in my hand.

00:54:55.000 Let's go ahead and go to Ed Brown, literally under siege, shots fired.

00:54:59.000 One of the people out there supporting him tasered.

00:55:03.000 And the media, AP, everybody, this is broken, factual news, witness on record.

00:55:10.000 And they heard the shots.

00:55:12.000 Cops grabbed him, his name's admitted, and not in the news.

00:55:15.000 It's not newsworthy.

00:55:16.000 They're on property firing their weapons and tasering people, and then they tell the media, oh, all those armored vehicles?

00:55:23.000 They call them tanks.

00:55:24.000 The tanks?

00:55:25.000 The hundreds of police?

00:55:26.000 Oh, that's for reconnaissance.

00:55:30.000 We're not going to raid anybody.

00:55:32.000 There's headlines.

00:55:33.000 That one high-level cop, I've got to dig it out, I've got like literally 30 or 40 articles here in a stack.

00:55:38.000 I've got it all highlighted.

00:55:40.000 This was saying, we're not out there, that's a conspiracy theory.

00:55:45.000 What are you two people, there's no Bilderberg.

00:55:48.000 This isn't an amnesty bill.

00:55:50.000 Rick Perry isn't here.

00:55:52.000 It's all lies, folks.

00:55:55.000 They just lie and lie to you now.

00:55:57.000 Because it works on most of you.

00:56:00.000 Ed Brown, you were commenting on what Jack McClamson is saying.

00:56:04.000 If I could jump in briefly with your comment about lying.

00:56:09.000 Danny Riley was told by the marshals to come here and lie to us and tell us that he was actually arrested by two policemen.

00:56:19.000 And he was threatened with 20 years to life in prison if he tells anyone else, if he tells anyone the truth of what happened.

00:56:27.000 Yeah, he's real scared.

00:56:28.000 We're trying to get him on, but you know, he's gone on the blog.

00:56:30.000 He's gone on the blog now and told the truth.

00:56:32.000 Yes, he did.

00:56:33.000 Yes, he did.

00:56:35.000 By the way, see that's terrorism.

00:56:37.000 That's terrorizing someone with terroristic threats of imprisonment.

00:56:41.000 Okay? 0.98

00:56:42.000 Listen, we shot at you. 0.75

00:56:44.000 We did all this.

00:56:45.000 Don't tell anybody we were here.

00:56:46.000 Tell everybody two policemen got you, and then they go lie to the media, and they give them a bus ticket. 0.99

00:56:52.000 My God, these people are such crooks. 0.98

00:56:54.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:56:55.000 Yep.

00:56:55.000 Hodo, tell us more about this, about Danny Riley, who was fired at, being told, if you tell anybody what happened here, you're going to get 20 years of life in prison.

00:57:04.000 Mm-hmm.

00:57:05.000 That's how they operate.

00:57:07.000 Jack McClam, this is standard operating procedure, isn't it?

00:57:09.000 Standard operating positions there are being taken all over the situation, and here's the thing.

00:57:19.000 If they do not get their insurrection of the people, they've got a very bad situation.

00:57:27.000 They're going to set bombs off.

00:57:30.000 Because if they go in and kill you guys, they know that it will magnify by two, three times the freedom movement, just like Ruby Ridge and Waco did, so they've got a bad situation.

00:57:45.000 I'm looking at my wife right now.

00:57:47.000 Jack, that's exactly what we intended to do.

00:57:49.000 Let them do it.

00:57:50.000 Okay, let's hear Ed comment on what you were saying earlier.

00:57:52.000 I'm looking at my wife right now.

00:57:53.000 Jack, that's exactly what we intend to do.

00:57:58.000 Let them do it.

00:58:00.000 We are reciprocal and so are the people that we deal with.

00:58:03.000 So if they wish to take our lives, they're going to send us to the Creator sooner?

00:58:08.000 It will do them far, far more damage than anything else that we could possibly do.

00:58:12.000 Far more than anything you could do.

00:58:14.000 And that's what we intend to do.

00:58:15.000 So we took all of the safeties off the property to let them come in. 0.88

00:58:18.000 And we're going to give them one hell of a fight as we go down.

00:58:22.000 Because we know we can't beat them.

00:58:24.000 And there's no way in the world that they're going to be able to arrest us.

00:58:27.000 So that's why we call this the Little Alamo.

00:58:30.000 Well, this is... They can't win, just like the Alamo.

00:58:34.000 And of course, fictionalize with, you can't win, Darth.

00:58:37.000 You strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

00:58:40.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

00:58:48.000 More than... Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 Already into the second hour on this live Friday edition. - Good morning.

00:59:31.000 The sixth day, the sixth month, the eighth day of June 2007.

00:59:38.000 It is Friday the eighth day of June 2007.

00:59:42.000 I'll be live this Sunday 4 to 6 p.m.

00:59:44.000 with continual coverage of what's happening there.

00:59:47.000 And you gotta love how the lies work.

00:59:49.000 They just come out.

00:59:51.000 They have six APCs, 50 plus state police, a bunch of federal marshals, all these different drones flying around from miles away.

01:00:01.000 We got the photos and video now.

01:00:02.000 Armored police with stub nose, short M-16s blocking off the road, searching cars, troops running around in ghillie suits, AP reporting dozens and dozens, scores of men in camouflage and what they called ghillie suits.

01:00:18.000 Well, the AP called it something with the wrong name.

01:00:21.000 They said Big Fluffy.

01:00:22.000 Supporters don't know.

01:00:24.000 Green suits.

01:00:24.000 I've got to pull the actual quote up.

01:00:26.000 It was so funny.

01:00:27.000 And then they're going, oh, we're not here for anything.

01:00:30.000 We're serving a search warrant 10 miles away.

01:00:33.000 And they all run and stand around in their ghillie suits in front of a dental office.

01:00:37.000 That's why we were doing all this.

01:00:39.000 No, they were about to move in on that house, and they got backed off.

01:00:46.000 I just don't want him to kill the Browns.

01:00:47.000 And our reporter, Luke Rudowski, is in there.

01:00:50.000 Jack McClam is joining us.

01:00:52.000 I appreciate him giving us all this time, continual coverage.

01:00:55.000 He helped end the Ruby Ridge siege.

01:00:57.000 He walked in and literally carried out those baby girls himself with Bogreich and saw all the carnage.

01:01:03.000 And I want him to recap that today, what he saw, so people know what this can turn into.

01:01:07.000 And then Ed Brown and Elaine Brown on the line with us right now.

01:01:10.000 Ed, you were talking when we went to break.

01:01:11.000 Go ahead.

01:01:12.000 Um, Alex, this is Elaine.

01:01:14.000 Ed had to step away for a couple of minutes.

01:01:17.000 That's fine.

01:01:17.000 Go ahead, Elaine.

01:01:18.000 Any other comments or statements?

01:01:21.000 Well, boy, where can I start?

01:01:26.000 All I can say is don't believe anything any of these guys tell you because they lie, lie, lie.

01:01:32.000 For months, Gary DeMartino, the U.S.

01:01:34.000 Marshal, he calls Ed every week, week and a half or so, and they chat for a while.

01:01:40.000 I have continued to assure us that they have no intention of coming in here.

01:01:45.000 And by the way, don't believe us.

01:01:47.000 There's the AP headline from, what, a month ago.

01:01:49.000 I'm trying to paraphrase.

01:01:50.000 It's here in the stack.

01:01:52.000 It's Marshall's.

01:01:53.000 We will not raid Brown House.

01:01:55.000 No intention to raid house.

01:01:57.000 What's the exact headline?

01:01:58.000 Let me dig it out.

01:02:01.000 You remember seeing that headline, right?

01:02:04.000 Yeah.

01:02:06.000 They've been saying that to us all along anyway.

01:02:08.000 Yeah.

01:02:11.000 Please continue, go ahead.

01:02:17.000 The entire judicial system is no longer, is now really a department of injustice.

01:02:24.000 There are no courts left.

01:02:26.000 We know from our personal experience during a trial, before a trial, that The only time they observe the law is when it is to their advantage.

01:02:36.000 All they do is you've got a bunch of uneducated guys that want to be tough guys who get off on the power trip and they get off on the gang member system of ordering other people around under them and citizens And they work for a totally criminal private corporation that has removed the last vestiges of the Bill of Rights and Constitution in many areas of society and growing, and they just enforce everything by the barrel of the gun.

01:02:59.000 No patriot mythology, no paperwork, no facts, no Bill of Rights, nothing means anything.

01:03:06.000 Here's an example.

01:03:07.000 We were on the sidewalk protesting last night.

01:03:10.000 The city, the county, the states lost all these suits over arresting people for protesting.

01:03:14.000 They've tried to claim it's an unauthorized protest.

01:03:16.000 They told us that.

01:03:17.000 I said, it's authorized by the First Amendment.

01:03:19.000 We're not on private property.

01:03:20.000 And they said, the cop said on video, he said, I'm going to have you all arrested.

01:03:24.000 And then the media gets there and he tells them, that's a lie, I never said that.

01:03:29.000 And the media comes over to me and goes, and looks at me like I'm lying and goes, he didn't say that, or he says you didn't say that.

01:03:35.000 And I'm just like, my God.

01:03:37.000 And then they start going, Rick Perry's not on the meeting, he's not on the program.

01:03:41.000 And then we have the program and there it is.

01:03:43.000 I mean, it's just, it's just stay there, Elaine.

01:03:45.000 I'm gonna come right back to you and Ed Brown and then Luke Brodowski and of course, Jack McClam.

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01:06:58.000 Because there's a war on for your mind Here is the headline from eight Marshall, No plans for armed standoff.

01:07:17.000 Since U.S.

01:07:18.000 Marshals legally took custody of convicted tax evaders Edward L. and Elaine A. Brown this week, the closest agents have got to the Plainfield couple is from the other end of a telephone line.

01:07:33.000 And he goes on to have them say, we're not going to go there and create an armed confrontation.

01:07:38.000 Monier said yesterday, noting that the Browns are armed and have threatened a Waco-style conflict if marshals try to serve them with federal arrest warrants.

01:07:48.000 Rather, law enforcement.

01:07:49.000 They're not public servants.

01:07:50.000 They're not lawmen.

01:07:51.000 They're authorities.

01:07:54.000 Not public servants.

01:07:55.000 Authorities.

01:07:56.000 Officials.

01:07:57.000 We're civilians, many of whom are under military rule.

01:08:01.000 All these words mean things.

01:08:02.000 Rather, law enforcement are biding their time and keeping their distance from the couple.

01:08:07.000 They say that it doesn't pose a flight risk and, by all accounts, has been living in a sort of self-imposed exile at their hilltop home.

01:08:18.000 And it goes on what Ms.

01:08:19.000 Brown just told you.

01:08:20.000 The Browns pledged to remain in their house despite regular telephone calls from a member of Monier's staff, who so far has been unsuccessful in prodding the couple to turn themselves in.

01:08:31.000 You don't know what the couple's been through.

01:08:32.000 If you go to their blog, fill yourself in on all the things that have happened.

01:08:35.000 We have links to it up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

01:08:38.000 For those that don't visit my sites, Ms.

01:08:42.000 Brown, why don't you, Mrs. Brown, why don't you tell people about the web address and how people can visit it?

01:08:49.000 About the web?

01:08:50.000 I'm sorry, the website?

01:08:51.000 Yeah, tell us about your website.

01:08:53.000 Well, I guess there are a few of them up right now.

01:08:57.000 The newest one, Make the Stand, a young fellow out of New York has been putting together.

01:09:03.000 The original one, Quest for a Fair Trial and Conquer New Hampshire, that was the original one.

01:09:08.000 And that got pretty unwieldy, I think, with all kinds of stuff being put on it.

01:09:15.000 But then there's MySpace, which has the interview with Danny Reilly and also with Sure, basically folks, if you go to PrisonPlanet.com, the entire front page is coverage of this.

01:09:29.000 So is JonesReport.com, as well as InfoWars.net and InfoWars.com.

01:09:34.000 But Prison Planet and InfoWars are just completely jam-packed.

01:09:37.000 I know WeAreChange.org is going to have a lot of this stuff.

01:09:40.000 on it as well, but it's been having bandwidth problems, so we're going to try to give them some server space here if we can get that IT work done.

01:09:46.000 But we're just a little bit overwhelmed as well.

01:09:49.000 I want to bring up Jack McClammon in just a moment, and also, if Luke Radowski's there, I want to have him pop in any time Ed wants to come on. 0.68

01:09:54.000 But Elaine Brown, just in a nutshell, in a two-minute sound bite, if you can, for people that don't know, tell them how this all started, what you guys have been through, the raids, the harassment, the lies, and then what made you guys finally decide to just make your stand, I mean, the mindset of not just shooting your mouth off, but being there, ready to die, and saying bring it on, we're ready to die.

01:10:17.000 Two minutes, huh?

01:10:20.000 Well, let me be clear. 0.85

01:10:22.000 Two minutes on what happened to you in the past, and then as much time as you want on the mindset of getting to the point of just saying, I'm ready to die.

01:10:29.000 Well, briefly, in 1994 we started writing the IRS asking them to deal with the law requiring any of us to pay an income tax on our earnings.

01:10:40.000 We sent them, you know, Supreme Court decisions, statutory law, congressional records, etc., supporting our position that we did not find that that was a requirement.

01:10:53.000 They never answered us, never answered us.

01:10:55.000 we decided the only way to handle it is to take a stand and stop paying the taxes.

01:11:02.000 So we wrote to the IRS and told them that we were going to do, that until they showed us the law that requires us to do so, we would no longer pay those taxes.

01:11:11.000 We heard nothing from them until they raided my dental office in November of 2004.

01:11:19.000 They came in with 28 in full armor, fully armed IRS agents, U.S. military, Marshals, Postal Inspectors, Lebanon Police, State Police, and they also had a sniper up on the hill behind my office.

01:11:34.000 All that to download a computer in an office that was staffed by seven women. 1.00

01:11:40.000 Following that, Ed and I filed a tort suit in Grafton Superior Court, suing these people for all the egregious things that they had unlawfully done to us.

01:11:54.000 Judge Gene Berling sent it over to federal court and Judge McAuliffe, who was, as it turns out, the judge in our trial, dismissed the case.

01:12:05.000 Then in May of 2006, Ed and I were arrested as part of a sting between the U.S.

01:12:16.000 Marshals and the City of Lebanon and the Lebanon Police Department.

01:12:20.000 And we went into trial in January.

01:12:23.000 We submitted about 45 motions before pre-trial.

01:12:29.000 Every single one, except one, was denied.

01:12:32.000 Many of them denied without any opposition, without any objection being filed by the prosecutor.

01:12:38.000 During the trial, it became apparent that this was a kangaroo trial.

01:12:41.000 We were not allowed to do adequate cross-examinations, present witnesses or evidence.

01:12:48.000 The jury was informed by the judge that they were not to consider the law, that he would tell them what the law was.

01:12:53.000 They could only judge the facts of the case.

01:12:58.000 Midway, Ed and I did not return for the fourth day of the trial.

01:13:06.000 And at that time, Ed decided he would not go back into court.

01:13:10.000 I decided I would go back into court and finish the case.

01:13:13.000 When I went back into court that following day, the judge told me that I was not allowed to go back to my home.

01:13:20.000 I would have to go to my son's house and be in his custody with an ankle bracelet on.

01:13:25.000 If I did not agree to that, I would be immediately incarcerated.

01:13:29.000 I therefore agreed to go to my son's house and I stayed apart from my husband for a month and four days at my son's house under judge's order and under supervision of the probation department.

01:13:43.000 After that time, I decided I could no longer be apart from my husband.

01:13:46.000 It was a terrible, terrible thing.

01:13:48.000 To separate a husband and wife like that. 0.92

01:13:51.000 So I just said to hell with this, and I packed my bags and I came home.

01:13:54.000 This is where I've been since February 20th.

01:13:57.000 And obviously knowing, because you knew what your husband Ed had said, he was going to fight to the death.

01:14:01.000 He was just going to sit there and wait for these creatures to come.

01:14:03.000 That's right.

01:14:04.000 And, you know, he was going to be in charge.

01:14:06.000 He was going to make the decision.

01:14:08.000 He was, I mean, that's, I mean, he definitely is going to win either way, no matter what happens here.

01:14:12.000 Yeah.

01:14:13.000 I mean, what is it like to know that any day now, or it could be a month from now, when everybody kind of settles down, that they're going to come?

01:14:21.000 Well, you know, Alex, it's not something that you stay in a high state of tension on.

01:14:28.000 You can't maintain that all the time.

01:14:32.000 It's physically and mentally impossible.

01:14:35.000 For the most part, we're very much at peace.

01:14:38.000 We are with the Lord, and we are with the Lord's laws, which is the Bible, the Ten Commandments, and His orders.

01:14:46.000 We have turned our backs on the courts and on man's laws because we know they only work to the advantage of the lawmakers and even to the point where any mail we get from any administration, including the court, we just return it saying, not at this address.

01:15:06.000 We don't even open it.

01:15:07.000 We don't acknowledge their existence.

01:15:09.000 Oddly enough, one little point, at the end of the trial, We submitted a notice of appeal to the court, along with the $455 fee.

01:15:24.000 Between then and the sentencing, Ed and I came to the decision that we would not appeal, that if we did that, we would be placing ourselves back into the jurisdiction of the court, because we have since placed ourselves under the jurisdiction of God, and we will not go by man's Criminal Laws.

01:15:46.000 So, when the deadline to file the Notice of Appeal happened, and we did not refile it, Judge McAuliffe filed it for us.

01:15:57.000 Very strange.

01:15:59.000 However, the fee was not sent in.

01:16:01.000 And we had until June 6th to send in that fee in order to stop the appeal process.

01:16:07.000 Of course, we did not do that.

01:16:10.000 And it was the day after that that they came in here, yesterday.

01:16:14.000 So I don't know what that means.

01:16:15.000 I want to be clear on something.

01:16:16.000 I want to go back to Jack McClam.

01:16:17.000 I appreciate waiting in the wings as our correspondent and our expert on these type of standoffs.

01:16:22.000 Elaine, I just want to tell you that I understand the type of piece you're talking about.

01:16:26.000 Just in the one or two cases that I've been in like this briefly when I knew the feds were coming in and I was there with the family.

01:16:31.000 It is peaceful to just turn loose and to know that you're doing the right thing.

01:16:36.000 I guarantee you these enemies of liberty are not at peace and I can really feel the Spirit of the Lord that is with you when you talked about the peace that you're having.

01:16:50.000 Well, you know, he was watching over us yesterday morning when Dan accidentally walked into them.

01:16:57.000 Otherwise, we might be dead now.

01:16:59.000 So, he was with us yesterday, that's for sure.

01:17:01.000 And you guys don't have locks on the gates?

01:17:03.000 The gates are... We have no gates.

01:17:06.000 So, everything's open and you're just waiting for them?

01:17:11.000 Yeah, people still come and go.

01:17:18.000 Absolutely.

01:17:19.000 What are you going to do if you've got infiltrators in your midst and suddenly they put guns to the back of your head and everybody swarms in on you?

01:17:25.000 Well, unless they can physically get us before we can, you know, get to pull our gun out or something, we're going to, you know, die trying, die fighting them.

01:17:38.000 There's always a possibility, and you know that Alex, and I know Jack does too, there's always a possibility that you've got an infiltrator.

01:17:44.000 I'm here brother and I'm just thinking of past soldiering during the Vietnam War and I lost seven of my brothers in the war in South Phoenix while I was on.

01:17:48.000 Jack, McClam, are you there?

01:17:51.000 I'm here, brother, and I'm just thinking of past soldiering during the Vietnam War.

01:17:58.000 I lost seven of my brothers in the war in South Phoenix while I was on.

01:18:03.000 These people are true American heroes.

01:18:06.000 I mean, I want to scold my brothers and sisters out there surrounding their houses because they are not heroes.

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01:23:08.000 Thank you.

01:23:10.000 Testimony proves yesterday's event was not just preparation for siege, it was a siege.

01:23:14.000 This is huge news!

01:23:16.000 The headline really, we just have another article, Police caught lying.

01:23:20.000 Feds caught lying.

01:23:21.000 They were about to assault.

01:23:22.000 They fired on someone.

01:23:24.000 They threatened him with 20 years to life in prison.

01:23:27.000 If he spoke out, he's Danny Reilly.

01:23:28.000 We've confirmed this with the Browns now.

01:23:30.000 They heard the shots.

01:23:33.000 This has been up for a couple hours on PrisonPlanet.com.

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01:23:41.000 We can get national attention on this.

01:23:43.000 We read other articles up about massive media cover-up and they say there was no plan for a siege, no police there, when they evacuated homes for upwards of two miles and shut down highways and had six armored vehicles, we now learn, swarming around.

01:23:57.000 Goodness!

01:23:58.000 And then they go, there's no siege going on here.

01:24:01.000 There's nothing happening.

01:24:04.000 I had this police, one of their officers, one of the commanders, walk with me yesterday at the protest at Rick Perry, at this function he was speaking at, and he goes, listen, I'm going to have you all arrested if you don't leave.

01:24:15.000 And I said, but we're on the sidewalk, this is city property, he goes, I'm going to have you leave.

01:24:18.000 And he said, he whispered, but I had cameras right by me, my camera guy's got it, he goes, listen, you're all going to be arrested. 0.93

01:24:25.000 And then he starts telling the media, oh, I didn't say I was going to arrest anybody, this guy's a liar! 1.00

01:24:30.000 And I just said, you're a degenerate piece of filth. 1.00

01:24:33.000 I just heard screaming at the cops. 1.00

01:24:37.000 You think it's all military tactics.

01:24:39.000 They go, well, lying is just a tactic. 0.99

01:24:41.000 It's, you know, you got to the citizens and then you lie and you plant a gun, you plant a switchblade, you shoot a black guy in the back here in Austin, you plant something on him. 1.00

01:24:48.000 I mean, you guys make me sick. 0.99

01:24:50.000 I mean, you really make me sick and I'm tired of it.

01:24:53.000 And they're getting more and more.

01:24:54.000 The whole society is getting criminal, though.

01:24:58.000 Going back to Jack McClam.

01:24:59.000 Jack, this is huge news that they fired at him.

01:25:02.000 This is huge news they then told him to get on his knees and tasered him and then told him, if you tell anybody we were here in ghillie suits on the property, you're gonna get 20 years to life in prison.

01:25:09.000 That's a terroristic threat!

01:25:11.000 I mean, there's all sorts of crimes being committed, and the big story here is how they can just lie to the media and put out national hoaxes!

01:25:18.000 Uh, Jack?

01:25:20.000 The media is owned by the same people that own America and our military and our law enforcement.

01:25:25.000 So I'm not surprised.

01:25:27.000 But the fact is, is that this is bigger news than the bimbo eruptions are on television every day, talking about These gals that are drunk driving, these Hollywood stars and so forth, this is big news. 1.00

01:25:43.000 Jack, I had CNN on for like three hours last night doing work in the background until like 2 a.m.

01:25:48.000 and it was just all Paris Hilton.

01:25:50.000 I mean, they know people don't want that.

01:25:52.000 That doesn't get ratings.

01:25:53.000 It's a diversion.

01:25:54.000 Go ahead.

01:25:55.000 Well, I want to say something to my fellow brother in uniform, Sheriff Michael Prozo. 1.00

01:26:05.000 Sheriff Prozo, I know you're listening, you are a coward. 0.94

01:26:09.000 You're a coward because we sent you from Aid and Abet Police Military Newsletter six months ago, our Sheriff's video, and our Sheriff's Newsletter, showing that you are the sovereign police power in that county, elected by the people to stand and protect the people, and you did not have to turn over that county to the feds. 0.97

01:26:31.000 And now you say you're out of town, probably gone fishing. 0.98

01:26:34.000 You're not out of town, brother.

01:26:36.000 We know you're hiding out.

01:26:38.000 And I just want to tell you to stand up and go and take command of this situation.

01:26:45.000 Protect this family that has done nothing criminal.

01:26:48.000 Nothing criminal.

01:26:49.000 I know, Sheriff Prozo, that what they've done is absolutely according to law.

01:26:55.000 Because I tell you what, I know IRS agents who have told me personally that there is no law That they are required to pay income tax or you either, Sheriff Prozo, or me.

01:27:10.000 So get out of your hiding place and get out there.

01:27:14.000 If not, I hope they vote you out.

01:27:16.000 In the next election.

01:27:17.000 Well, Jack, what about just the lying?

01:27:20.000 And jump in any time, Elaine Brown.

01:27:21.000 I mean, the lying of God.

01:27:22.000 They got all these, they call them tanks, the state police did.

01:27:25.000 Tanks and helicopters and aircraft and guys in ghillie suits on the property. 0.92

01:27:30.000 And then they just tell the news, we weren't going to raid anybody, which doesn't exist.

01:27:33.000 We haven't evacuated for two miles.

01:27:35.000 I mean, it's nuts!

01:27:37.000 Well, one thing we know for sure, they lie all the time.

01:27:42.000 You know, and they're going to continue to lie about these things.

01:27:45.000 But I'll tell you what folks, we have the bravest people I've ever seen in America on the radio this morning.

01:27:53.000 This couple knows if they get killed that boy George Bush and the gang are going to be in bad trouble because the freedom movement is going to grow tremendously if they go in and kill this couple.

01:28:08.000 That's why the Bush crime family wants us to march in arms I want to ask Elaine Brown and Ed Brown, if she can get him back on the line, what they want us to do if they go in there and kill him in cold blood or burn the place up and claim... You might want to get on record that you're not planning to burn yourself up.

01:28:30.000 They'll have a helicopter dumping gasoline right on you. 0.99

01:28:32.000 On video, it won't matter.

01:28:34.000 They'll just say you burned it all up.

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01:34:30.000 Going back to Jack McClam and going back to Elaine Brown, and I'm so flustered here with so much news coming in, so much happening.

01:34:45.000 Before the break, I was asking a question and we went to break.

01:34:47.000 What was that question, Jack?

01:34:48.000 Do you remember?

01:34:51.000 Alex, I think you know what I want, what we want people to do.

01:34:55.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:34:56.000 What do you want people to do if they come in and kill you?

01:34:59.000 I mean, what's on your mind?

01:35:00.000 I mean, you know, obviously, the great responsibility.

01:35:02.000 Have you thought about, you know, Ed knows they want the revolution to start now.

01:35:06.000 I mean, what do you want people to do if they strike you down?

01:35:08.000 Well, two answers to that.

01:35:11.000 Number one, scenarios are already in play that if we are killed, other people are going to die.

01:35:20.000 It's going to be as personal for those who participated in our demise as it will have been for us.

01:35:27.000 And that's not only the law enforcement people, but the people, the courts, the IRS, anyone involved in our situation who have broken the law and destroyed us for non-crime.

01:35:41.000 The second part of this answer is what I want is for Americans to stand up.

01:35:49.000 You know, it's said that all that is needed for evil to abound is for good men to do nothing.

01:35:56.000 Well, there are a lot of you good people out there, but a lot of you are doing nothing.

01:36:01.000 Get off the desk.

01:36:02.000 Who cares about Paris Hilton?

01:36:05.000 There's a lot more going on in this world, in this country, than Paris Hilton.

01:36:10.000 Get up, stand up, say no.

01:36:13.000 Boycott!

01:36:42.000 Boycott Uh, that'll slow them down. 0.99

01:36:45.000 What are they going to do if everybody stops paying these unlawful taxes?

01:36:49.000 Nothing.

01:36:51.000 It's lawful.

01:36:52.000 They don't have to do anything, uh, over a covert or aggressive.

01:36:58.000 Just walk away.

01:36:58.000 Just stop.

01:36:59.000 Shun them like they did in the olden days. 0.98

01:37:01.000 Walk away.

01:37:02.000 Turn your back on them.

01:37:04.000 Now, Ed Brown, what do you want people to do if they come in and gun you down?

01:37:12.000 Not to gun me down.

01:37:14.000 I know that.

01:37:18.000 What I want the people to do, my wife pretty well said it, we'll take care of business here.

01:37:23.000 We'll give them something to remember us by here.

01:37:27.000 They'll show us respect that day, I'll tell you.

01:37:31.000 After that, other steps are in place anyway, so nobody has to be concerned with that.

01:37:36.000 I want everyone to remember us And simply, hey guys, we'll see you on the other side.

01:37:43.000 We're all going to stand before those privy gates one day.

01:37:47.000 And we are going to stand under the judgment of the High Judge.

01:37:51.000 And we're going to have to answer for our actions in our lives.

01:37:55.000 Very true.

01:37:56.000 Somebody has to stand, guys.

01:37:57.000 Somebody has to stand.

01:37:59.000 Now all these people that say, we're behind you, Ed.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, I know.

01:38:03.000 I keep hearing them.

01:38:03.000 They're behind us about two miles.

01:38:06.000 Well, now, Infowars.com reporters Matt Lepacek and, of course, Luke Rudowsky are there.

01:38:13.000 They're standing right beside you.

01:38:14.000 That is correct.

01:38:16.000 Yep.

01:38:17.000 They are here.

01:38:18.000 They're good men.

01:38:19.000 Yes, they are.

01:38:19.000 Good men.

01:38:19.000 They're wonderful.

01:38:20.000 They're wonderful young men.

01:38:21.000 Very brave, brave men.

01:38:23.000 Yep.

01:38:24.000 Truly, yeah.

01:38:26.000 We're very proud of them, and we're praying for all of you right now.

01:38:30.000 Now, I noticed that even the state police and others were trying to cover their faces yesterday.

01:38:34.000 They are scared of the world seeing and knowing the crime they've committed.

01:38:38.000 Only people that are ashamed of themselves cover their faces.

01:38:41.000 Jack?

01:38:41.000 That's right, brother.

01:38:45.000 That's right.

01:38:48.000 I was up at Red Beckman's place when he was being raided.

01:38:53.000 Colonel Bowen and I were there and we led a team of guys up there and they were going to come over the hill and come down and take out the Beckman family here about ten years ago and we showed up with about twelve guys and we knew that they had the tanks coming in and they had the four or five hundred paramilitary police from state and the federal government and so

01:39:22.000 We thought about it and we decided that we would put our guns away and go to town.

01:39:27.000 Yep.

01:39:27.000 We sent a guy to town and we bought mops and buckets.

01:39:30.000 Mops and buckets.

01:39:31.000 I remember that.

01:39:31.000 Mops and buckets.

01:39:32.000 Remember that?

01:39:33.000 Yes, I do.

01:39:34.000 Then we lined up out front, all twelve of us, with our mops and buckets and they were going to come over the hill and shoot us if we had our guns.

01:39:43.000 And we were going to shoot back, of course.

01:39:45.000 But they never came because they didn't know what to do.

01:39:49.000 They had TV cameras and everything and we're standing there In line in formation with mops and buckets.

01:39:56.000 And what we were going to do is we had buckets full of soapy water.

01:40:00.000 When they came down the hill and attacked us, we would put the mops in the buckets of soapy water and put the mops up underneath their face shields and soap their eyes real good.

01:40:12.000 And if they shot us all down, we were willing to die for America.

01:40:16.000 But it would have been the worst thing they could have done on television because we're standing there with mops and buckets.

01:40:23.000 For those that don't know, Red Beckman, he's the father of the Fully Informed Jury Association.

01:40:29.000 We'd have Red back on.

01:40:31.000 I know his health's not too good.

01:40:33.000 He's taking care of his wife.

01:40:35.000 But Red, highly decorated World War II vet, high level military officer, he found out about this stuff back in the 50s.

01:40:43.000 And there they were going after Red and his wife in their little bitty trailer. 0.98

01:40:47.000 Yes, but the sad thing is, after we left in about three days, they came in with a bulldozer and just bulldozed his house down.

01:40:55.000 So if people come, Ed, and I'm talking to all the people out there, if anybody goes to help Ed and Elaine, you've got to plan on staying.

01:41:06.000 You've got to stay, because once you leave, then that's when they come in.

01:41:11.000 And that's what happened to us.

01:41:12.000 We finally had, you know, we had fathers and People had to go back to their families, and after three days we left and they came in with a giant bulldozer and just bulldozed his house down.

01:41:22.000 Now again, it wasn't about getting the back money owed the Federal Reserve, which is a fraud.

01:41:27.000 It was about showing power to an old World War II vet who literally sent out books, pamphlets, at cost, and ate beans.

01:41:35.000 It was about bulldozing his little bitty trailer with his sick wife. 0.99

01:41:39.000 Yes. 0.99

01:41:39.000 Of course. 0.99

01:41:40.000 That's it.

01:41:41.000 Yeah, but so anyway, I just talked to military people and I've talked to law enforcement people here and I'm telling you, you have got them over the barrel because man, if they come in and slaughter all of you guys, they are in bad, they're going to be worse off than if they left you alone because the freedom movement is going to Grow by leaps and bounds, just like you did after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

01:42:08.000 But let's say the whole thing does start.

01:42:10.000 What are they going to do when there's millions of Gordon calls out there from Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm 1 and 2?

01:42:16.000 I mean, they're all quietly just waiting.

01:42:18.000 I hope the feds and police know this.

01:42:20.000 You know, your banker masters do.

01:42:23.000 They plan for you to be chewed up.

01:42:24.000 Do they know what's going to happen to them?

01:42:27.000 Do they know that one gorilla is worth a hundred bivouacked fortress troops? 0.65

01:42:34.000 Alex, thank you very much.

01:42:37.000 That's exactly the point we're trying to get across to everybody.

01:42:41.000 One trained, well-trained individual is worth a thousand untrained ones.

01:42:46.000 And he can keep an entire battalion down on the ground flat with his knowledge and skill.

01:42:53.000 And we already have thousands of them.

01:42:56.000 So, we don't care.

01:42:57.000 Let them go ahead and do their thing.

01:43:00.000 That's okay.

01:43:01.000 I've got people chomping at the bit out here for years.

01:43:05.000 Would love to go out there and duke it out with these people.

01:43:07.000 Would just love to do it.

01:43:09.000 In the name of their country and their God.

01:43:11.000 Some of them, of course, I don't know if they're a God who believes in God or not, but they'll duke it out.

01:43:15.000 They hate these people.

01:43:16.000 Their lives have been destroyed by these people.

01:43:19.000 For many reasons.

01:43:20.000 So you're right, Alex.

01:43:21.000 Thanks a lot.

01:43:22.000 I agree.

01:43:23.000 But, that's phase one.

01:43:25.000 We are meant to win the battle physically against them, and then they're going to bring in hardcore martial law. 0.80

01:43:31.000 Mainline Army Times.

01:43:33.000 Mexican, Canadian, Dutch, British, Russian troops.

01:43:37.000 Folks, it's now mainstream news they want to bring them in here.

01:43:40.000 You know they do.

01:43:41.000 That's why I said we're not going to do anything.

01:43:44.000 Let them start it.

01:43:46.000 We have every right to protect and defend, and we will do that.

01:43:50.000 Defend and we will do that.

01:43:54.000 But remember, the enemy has us surrounded, but they have nowhere to hide.

01:44:01.000 When do you think, Jack, from your past, seeing many of these come and go, when do you think they'll strike?

01:44:07.000 I think it'll be in a month or two on a Saturday morning at 4 a.m., when everybody's kind of forgotten about this.

01:44:14.000 Well, they've got to go back now, since they were not able to get the, what they call the Insurgents and the terrorists all across the land like me, you, and everybody to march in there to New Hampshire so Bush can declare martial law.

01:44:32.000 They know they can't go in and just kill Ed and Elaine.

01:44:36.000 Because if the feds go in and kill them, then they've got a major problem with the freedom movement.

01:44:45.000 And so they've got to go back to the drawing board and figure out how they can win this thing. 1.00

01:44:49.000 If they were just not so stupid and so satanic, they would know the way they could win this thing is just leave them alone. 1.00

01:44:58.000 Because it's just one couple out there. 1.00

01:45:00.000 Yeah, they could have ignored this months ago, they could have dropped it like they've done with millions of others, left them alone like the Gray family, but they haven't done that.

01:45:09.000 Well, if they don't do that, they're in deep kimchi. 0.99

01:45:12.000 I mean, they're in deep trouble if they go in and kill this family, since they couldn't get the revolution started, which they wanted to do by using Ed and Elaine.

01:45:22.000 So Ed and Elaine is much safer than if we went in there with, you know, 200,000 of Americans coming from every state in the Union, because now it would be time to bring in the foreign troops.

01:45:34.000 It'd be martial law.

01:45:38.000 The Constitution and country would be over, but now, because Elaine and Ed have some friends with them, it's a local issue, and boy, George Bush can't declare martial law, even if the shooting started there.

01:45:52.000 Hey, Jack, it goes like this.

01:45:56.000 We've got a large number, but we've got a small number.

01:45:59.000 As Sun Tzu says, if you're small, appear large.

01:46:02.000 If you're large, appear small.

01:46:04.000 Right.

01:46:05.000 Right?

01:46:05.000 Yeah.

01:46:07.000 Well, maybe we don't have the capabilities.

01:46:10.000 We never lie, but maybe we do.

01:46:12.000 I mean, do we lie?

01:46:14.000 I'm not sure.

01:46:15.000 But, however, this is George Bush and Reid, uh, Cheney was talking about a few weeks ago on some, uh, you know, they're saying a lot of words, but saying nothing.

01:46:24.000 But Sun Tzu and the Art of War is a wonderful book.

01:46:28.000 It is.

01:46:28.000 And we study it hard.

01:46:30.000 True.

01:46:31.000 And we do care about everything, and no, we don't want to get hurt, and we don't want to hurt anybody, guys.

01:46:38.000 But we now know that they've left us no choice.

01:46:42.000 They wanted us to be the postal group couple in this district, this area here during tax time, and it didn't work.

01:46:52.000 But they couldn't see that, so now they've made it personal.

01:46:56.000 And I think you're right.

01:46:57.000 They want to see chaos and anarchy.

01:46:59.000 But we knew that ahead of time, Jack and Alex.

01:47:04.000 We've got some pretty smart people here from a military perspective.

01:47:08.000 So now with that position in mind, knowing that that's what they wanted, now we totally stand back and let them go ahead and do their thing, because we know they're going to lose.

01:47:19.000 And if you look at our interviews in the past, you'll see that that's what we've said and been saying right along, is that, hey, we're here all by ourselves.

01:47:25.000 But the question is, the question is, when do you think they're planning to move in, or Jack, do you think they're going to drop it now?

01:47:34.000 I don't think they will.

01:47:36.000 If they were not so satanic and evil, they would use their logic and just drop it and back out.

01:47:44.000 Because it's one couple. 0.94

01:47:46.000 And if they go in and kill this couple, they're going to have 10 million, 20 million people join the freedom movement across this nation to deal with.

01:47:56.000 More people to deal with. 0.97

01:47:57.000 And so if they were smart, and if they had military tacticians in there, that weren't so satanic and evil, They would tell them, leave this couple alone because if we go in and kill them, we're going to have down our throats another 20 million Americans or 30, 40 million Americans joining this freedom fight because we went in and killed these people, murdered them.

01:48:22.000 And so I hope and pray, Alex, they're listening to this program this morning, that they're smart enough to just leave one couple alone and walk away Because the damage that Ed and Elaine can do to their system if they're alive, and just speaking out about that there's no law, which we have IRS agents, ex-IRS agents, speaking out saying there's no law.

01:48:44.000 Criminal agents.

01:48:45.000 Much less! 0.87

01:48:46.000 Much less than what's going to happen to them if they go in and kill this couple.

01:48:51.000 We need to get Joe Bannister on.

01:48:53.000 He was a treasury agent and he heard a radio show saying it wasn't a law and he went to disprove it and found out it was all true.

01:48:59.000 He went into his supervisors and they said, yeah, but don't tell anybody.

01:49:03.000 We work for an offshore corporation.

01:49:05.000 Keep it quiet.

01:49:07.000 And he said, no way.

01:49:08.000 I mean, this is crazy.

01:49:10.000 And he found out none of it went to the country.

01:49:12.000 It all went to foreign banks.

01:49:13.000 Folks, we have been hijacked for a long time.

01:49:20.000 I just hope and pray this... Jack, how big is it that they fired shots at this guy?

01:49:24.000 They tasered him and then told him they'd put him in prison if he spoke out to anybody.

01:49:30.000 When we get back, I want to hear from you, get a final comment from Ed and Elaine Brown, and then I want to get into some of the news surrounding this that I'm going to get you guys back on later in the next hour.

01:49:40.000 I want to give you a break though, and I also want to Find out more from our reporter there on the ground, Luke Rodowski.

01:49:47.000 It's also Matt Lepacek.

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01:52:58.000 The next hour, I'm going to give you a big overview of what's happening.

01:53:01.000 Get into some other international, national news.

01:53:03.000 What happened last night with the Rick Perry protest.

01:53:05.000 And we do have a guest coming on who had his son taken by CPS for being in 9-11 Truth.

01:53:10.000 That's not allowed now.

01:53:11.000 That's terrorism.

01:53:13.000 We're not kidding.

01:53:13.000 This country's almost, it's just, it's so evil, ladies and gentlemen.

01:53:16.000 The average person has no idea.

01:53:19.000 You gotta go out and experience it for yourself to really see what's happening.

01:53:22.000 Elaine Brown, I'm gonna let you guys go so you don't get exhausted as you get into some other interviews and things, but any closing comments about what's happened?

01:53:29.000 Yeah, we just wish everybody well.

01:53:33.000 We thank them for all the help that they've done, Alex, including yourself, and hey, guys, the worst comes to worst.

01:53:40.000 Like I said earlier, they'll see you on the other side.

01:53:43.000 Well, I want to say this, we love your courage, and we love you and your wife, and we're all praying for you.

01:53:49.000 And I'll just say on air right now, I ask God Almighty, I ask Yahweh that he put up a hedge of protection around you, that he touch the hearts of these men that have been given over to wickedness, if there's any good left in them, that they literally, like Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus, that they literally, like Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus, be knocked off He was a great torturer and enforcer for the New World Order. 0.90

01:54:13.000 He persecuted and killed people, just like these guys do.

01:54:17.000 That they see the evil they're involved in, that they join the light, and it's not too late for them.

01:54:22.000 They shouldn't fear the New World Order that can kill their bodies.

01:54:26.000 They should fear He who can kill their souls.

01:54:29.000 And how they don't know they're on the side of evil, I'll never know.

01:54:34.000 But I just ask that God's will be done in this, and if it is God's will, that this thing turn out alright, and that divine intervention and guidance be involved in here.

01:54:44.000 And Ed, God bless you.

01:54:45.000 Thank you, sir.

01:54:46.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:54:46.000 Thank you, Jack.

01:54:47.000 Bye-bye, guys.

01:54:48.000 Bye-bye, folks.

01:54:49.000 And we're praying for you.

01:54:50.000 Absolutely.

01:54:51.000 Do we have Luke Radowski now via cell phone?

01:54:53.000 Okay, we're going to bring Luke up when we start the next hour and then about 15 after.

01:54:57.000 If he's still there, I want to get the father on who's had his child CPSed over being involved in 9-11.

01:55:01.000 I want to keep Jack on with us in the next hour if he can.

01:55:04.000 If he needs to take a break, that's fine.

01:55:06.000 But Jack, I mean, isn't this really down to God? 0.99

01:55:09.000 I mean, for the evil ones, the fools, they say there's no God. 0.99

01:55:12.000 They've never had those spiritual experiences. 0.99

01:55:14.000 They've never had the experience I guess we've had.

01:55:17.000 Or like Butch said, you know, knowing when the shelling was about to start when he was in Cambodia and Laos and Vietnam and black ops.

01:55:24.000 They've never, I guess, stepped through the veil.

01:55:26.000 They don't know what's really going on in the universe.

01:55:30.000 But, I mean, this is a battle about God.

01:55:31.000 I mean, this is all part of God's plan, and I guess we can't know what that is.

01:55:35.000 Yes, it truly is.

01:55:36.000 And with a godly people that are absolute, tremendous American heroes and heroes for God and country there, Elaine and Ed,

01:55:47.000 God is working through these people and he's got to work through us too at the same time and he is working through us right now and we've caused, or not us, but the enemy of God has caused themselves to be put in a horrible dilemma right now because they did not get the reaction from the American people they wanted to put us under martial law.

01:56:10.000 Now they've got to try to figure out what to do with this family.

01:56:15.000 I really feel, Alex, that And I'm praying, of course, that they do not kill this family because it's the worst thing they could do for their side.

01:56:25.000 Now, it's the best thing they could do for our side if they go in and just massacre this family like they did at Waco and Ruby Ridge. 1.00

01:56:34.000 But are they that stupid? 1.00

01:56:36.000 You know? 1.00

01:56:37.000 Are they that stupid to do this? 1.00

01:56:41.000 We're going to lose people on our side in this war against Satan and his minions. 1.00

01:56:46.000 And we may lose Ed and Elaine, but God will work out His plan through them, and is working out His plan through them right now.

01:56:54.000 So, anyway, Alex, I wanted to tell you, I've got an appointment at 12, and that's Pacific Time here.

01:57:02.000 I've got about a half an hour left, and I've got to get out of here.

01:57:05.000 I've got a very important appointment to go to, so I can't stay any more than a half an hour, brother.

01:57:11.000 Absolutely, I understand.

01:57:12.000 So we'll keep you just a little bit more, Jack, to get some final comments, and then I do want to set you up now to come on my Sunday show.

01:57:19.000 It's out of the KLBJ 590 Studios, which is syndicated to a few stations around the country and on the short way to the internet.

01:57:24.000 That's coming up Sunday as well.

01:57:25.000 Lord knows what's going to happen.

01:57:26.000 We're going to come back, finish up with Jack, and then we're going to talk to Luke Rudalski.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Well, he's the hero, one of the heroes, along with Bo Bright, so the Ruby Ridge Sheege.

01:58:13.000 Help end it peacefully with only a few people being murdered and the family dog.

01:58:16.000 One with a baby in her arms having half her head blown off. 0.91

01:58:21.000 But he did get those little girls and children out of there.

01:58:23.000 And he's been to many other of these programs.

01:58:27.000 The enemy loves to surround some patriot or some civil matter. 0.85

01:58:31.000 They love to kill.

01:58:33.000 They love to scare everybody. 0.96

01:58:34.000 They love to show everybody who rules.

01:58:37.000 It says, just like Bob Dylan says, democracy don't rule the world.

01:58:42.000 This world is run by violence.

01:58:45.000 You better get that through your head.

01:58:47.000 Maybe we should play that song later.

01:58:49.000 Jack, I want to let you get to your appointment.

01:58:51.000 I also want to bring up Luke Rudowsky.

01:58:53.000 You say you can stay with us about another 15 minutes or so, Jack?

01:58:56.000 Sure, I can.

01:58:57.000 Alex, I could stay to the bottom of the hour, but then I've got to get out of here.

01:59:00.000 I'm a half an hour up a mountain, and I've got to get out.

01:59:03.000 No, that's perfect, because I want to...

01:59:05.000 I want to get Mr. Schwab on, who had his son taken because he was out with 9-11 signs and CPS has decided that's illegal.

01:59:12.000 But yeah, it's freedom here.

01:59:14.000 But I want to bring up Luke Rudowski.

01:59:16.000 Luke, I want to get Jack's take on your report.

01:59:20.000 Luke, what are you seeing, without giving numbers of personnel or how many are at the house and the defensive positions, but I mean overall, what's your take on everything you're seeing?

01:59:28.000 What's it like to be in the middle of this?

01:59:31.000 I mean, one, of course it's scary.

01:59:33.000 We don't know what can happen.

01:59:34.000 Anything can happen at any time.

01:59:36.000 We do see a lot of weird things do happen, just like with the internet.

01:59:39.000 Just like looking into the forest and seeing some weird things.

01:59:42.000 But right now, what I'm doing, I'm happy to be live on the radio right now, because right now, I am here, where they shot the fire, where they were shooting at this one gentleman.

01:59:51.000 I am here right now, walking, and I'm scouting.

01:59:53.000 I'm outside Ed and Elaine Brown's house right now.

01:59:56.000 I'm actually walking around, scouting, and I'm looking.

01:59:59.000 I'm walking around and I'm looking for any of these... You know what you ought to do?

02:00:03.000 I bet money during the hysteria when they shot their M16 .223 round or whatever, they didn't pick him up.

02:00:10.000 Man, you ought to go out.

02:00:11.000 He said he was only... We're going to play the tape coming up.

02:00:15.000 But I would go out and walk up and down that path and look where you see disturbed twigs or where it looks like people have been milling around, Luke.

02:00:23.000 and I would look for shell casings.

02:00:25.000 Oh, this is huge.

02:00:26.000 In fact, I meant to tell you, I guess our minds think alike, to go out there.

02:00:30.000 Jack, you're an expert on crime scenes.

02:00:31.000 The fellow said he was just a little bit way into the woods when suddenly the ghillie soups popped up.

02:00:37.000 Look for areas where leaves are pushed out, where guys have been laying down.

02:00:41.000 No, I think you said it well.

02:00:42.000 That's it.

02:00:42.000 and the leaves of the grass where they've been laying, push down grass, look where you see a scuffle point, and then look around for a 223 or a 308 round.

02:00:51.000 Jack, any tips for Luke as he walks around out there? - No, I think you said it well.

02:00:56.000 That's it.

02:00:57.000 Any pressed down grass or anything like that where they've been sitting and waiting and moving around, of course, and that's where you'll find the expended rounds right there.

02:01:09.000 And it would be good to capture those, because... And also, by the way, do not touch them, because there's fingerprints on them.

02:01:18.000 Okay?

02:01:18.000 So, pick them up with your pen, and put them in a baggie, or... Yeah, take a twig and put them in a baggie, and then don't ruffle the baggie on the bullet.

02:01:26.000 That's right.

02:01:27.000 Because there's going to be fingerprints on them.

02:01:31.000 I'm walking around right now, and it's good to be live, just if anything happens right now, you know, just to have everything on record.

02:01:38.000 And, yeah, I'm looking around here.

02:01:40.000 I'm in the exact location where everything went down yesterday, and it's just quiet, and it's just, you know, peaceful.

02:01:46.000 A little bit bizarre, a little bit scary, but, you know, we're here doing, you know, it's the informal work, and we've got to keep fighting it.

02:01:53.000 Is Matt LePage with you?

02:01:55.000 There's a couple feet away from me right now.

02:01:58.000 We're going to go to break.

02:01:59.000 Tell him the same thing we just told you.

02:02:01.000 Don't touch any casings.

02:02:03.000 Don't get into the ruffled areas.

02:02:04.000 Look for areas in the grass or in the leaves of the woods where it looks like a fat hog's been laying there.

02:02:10.000 I mean, that's what it looks like.

02:02:11.000 It looks like where deer have been sitting.

02:02:13.000 It'll be spaced out.

02:02:14.000 There'll be an area where they've pressed everything down, where they've been sitting there in their ghillie suits.

02:02:20.000 And just look around for those shell casings.

02:02:24.000 Sometimes they have ejector nets so they don't lose them when they're doing these black ops.

02:02:29.000 But just look around for casings.

02:02:32.000 Now if you see a casing that's weathered and looks tarnished and oxidized, that'll be the Browns bullet casings.

02:02:40.000 I doubt they're out there though.

02:02:41.000 Look for shiny brass.

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02:05:48.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:52.000 Coming up in 20 minutes.

02:05:53.000 We're going to spend about 10 minutes on it.

02:05:55.000 I'm going to spend an hour.

02:05:59.000 Raymond Schwab is a pastor, a minister.

02:06:01.000 He's thirty-something years old.

02:06:03.000 He's married to his wife.

02:06:05.000 The son is seven years old from her first marriage.

02:06:09.000 It was the summertime, and she would come out every week on their walk across the nation and, you know, come see him with an RV.

02:06:15.000 It's the summer.

02:06:16.000 They homeschool.

02:06:18.000 In fact, he's getting year-round education.

02:06:22.000 They, uh, CPS came.

02:06:24.000 Everywhere they go, the police harass them, detain them, tell them to turn their cameras off.

02:06:28.000 We've played the video here.

02:06:29.000 It's been on Google Video.

02:06:31.000 And, uh, they, uh, came with CPS and took him.

02:06:34.000 Now, since that happened a week ago, uh, Grandma's finally got the child, but now CPS is back trying to take the child away again, you know, under state custody.

02:06:42.000 They've got social workers trying to Tell the child, you know, to say bad stuff about your parents, his birth mother and his stepfather.

02:06:51.000 The child's calling, all scared, freaked out.

02:06:54.000 This is America.

02:06:55.000 I mean, folks, I want you to understand something.

02:06:57.000 Things have happened to me.

02:06:58.000 You know, yesterday I was yelling and screaming at cops.

02:07:01.000 I was nice to them at first, and gentlemanly, and tried to be friendly, until one of the higher-ups arrived.

02:07:07.000 We've got video of it.

02:07:08.000 He walks up and he says, listen, I want to ask you to go.

02:07:10.000 You know, you're really disturbing things.

02:07:12.000 And he was being real nice, but I saw it was fake.

02:07:15.000 And I said, well here comes the threat and he goes, or he winks forward and he goes, we're going to have you all arrested.

02:07:21.000 But luckily we had cameras and shotgun mics right on him, right over my shoulder.

02:07:26.000 We're reviewing the tapes now with my guys.

02:07:28.000 One of them had headphones.

02:07:29.000 He says he got it.

02:07:30.000 We got like nine hours of footage now with three hours a piece from three cameras.

02:07:35.000 And we're about to go to Lucas in the Woods looking around for shell casings right now.

02:07:38.000 Infowars.com.

02:07:39.000 We are a Change.org reporter along with Matt Lepacek.

02:07:41.000 We got arrested a few days ago in the same state, New Hampshire, for asking Giuliani's people a question.

02:07:48.000 But it made me so angry because then the reporters ran over to him when I was bullhorning saying, we've been threatened with arrest, we don't leave.

02:07:58.000 And the cop said, that's a lie. 1.00

02:07:59.000 He's a liar. 0.97

02:08:00.000 I didn't say that. 1.00

02:08:02.000 He's crazy. 0.96

02:08:03.000 I didn't say that. 0.96

02:08:05.000 He practiced this sweet face. 0.99

02:08:08.000 He really was a good liar, like Bill Clinton. 1.00

02:08:11.000 I just walked up and I said, you degenerate piece of trash. 1.00

02:08:15.000 I mean folks, about the only time I lie is if my wife's wearing something I don't think looks good and she asks me, I know better than to tell her it doesn't look good. 0.99

02:08:24.000 Or I might, I mean, I do do white lies and frankly I've gotten to the point where I don't.

02:08:28.000 I just go, no, I don't like your food.

02:08:29.000 You know, like if I'm at my parents' house, my mom goes, is that good?

02:08:32.000 And rarely it isn't.

02:08:33.000 Sometimes I go, no, it's not that good.

02:08:34.000 I mean, I've tried to train myself, not even to lie in small ways.

02:08:38.000 That's what makes me so mad when people accuse me of being a liar.

02:08:42.000 Because it's easy.

02:08:42.000 I live by my memory.

02:08:44.000 I live by the truth.

02:08:45.000 It's so good.

02:08:46.000 I remember being a teenager and, you know, my dad, did you get in the liquor cabinet and drink that bottle of scotch?

02:08:53.000 Oh, no.

02:08:54.000 You know, I mean, I've told lies, but it feels great not to be a liar.

02:08:59.000 And I try to not be a liar.

02:09:01.000 We're built to be liars.

02:09:02.000 We were fallen.

02:09:03.000 Jack, I want to go back to Luke who's out there going around the woods right now.

02:09:06.000 Luke, keep looking for areas, see if you can find some scuffle areas.

02:09:09.000 But you get my point about having them lie and then accuse me of being a liar just absolutely made me explode.

02:09:16.000 Absolutely, brother.

02:09:17.000 I know we all struggle with that, but I just want to remind everybody out there that There are times that God blessed liars in the Bible.

02:09:27.000 You know, Rahab the harlot that lied to the government.

02:09:31.000 And send them the wrong direction. 0.92

02:09:33.000 God bless Rahab the harlot tremendously. 1.00

02:09:37.000 And the Hebrew midwives that lied to the king, the ruling authority of the day. 0.99

02:09:42.000 God bless amazingly.

02:09:44.000 Well, I want to be clear. 0.90

02:09:45.000 If they're coming, you know, and saying all their children in the house and they want to seize them to rape them, obviously you lied.

02:09:51.000 I mean, that's a military thing, but I'm saying they've taken that same idea and given it to the police to say, you're not allowed to be here.

02:09:56.000 We're going to arrest you.

02:09:57.000 And then they lie.

02:09:58.000 That's evil.

02:09:59.000 I mean, so there are specific cases, but yeah. 0.83

02:10:01.000 If you're on the side of evil, and on the side of God's enemies, and you're a liar, you're going to pay harshly for that.

02:10:10.000 Very harshly.

02:10:11.000 But if you're on the side of God, and you're sending God's enemies in the wrong direction, or you're misdirecting them, that is not a lie that God's going to punish you for.

02:10:21.000 Read the Holy Bible.

02:10:23.000 He blessed people that misled His enemies.

02:10:27.000 And so we need to remember that.

02:10:29.000 We have people that say, Oh my goodness gracious, I can't take the witness stand and lie to save somebody's life from these enemies of God and man, but yes you can, and God will not punish you for that if you're lying against having people be killed or be destroyed, or our society be destroyed, or Christians to be fed to the lions. 0.95

02:10:55.000 Yes, you can lie up to court one another.

02:10:57.000 But then there's the reverse. 0.98

02:10:58.000 One of the ultimate sins is bearing false witness to send somebody to jail or kill them. 0.64

02:11:04.000 That's right.

02:11:05.000 That's altogether different.

02:11:06.000 Altogether different.

02:11:07.000 That is a sin out of the pits of hell, and you're going to pay horribly for it.

02:11:11.000 Let's go to Luke Radowsky, and we're going to let Jack go here in a minute.

02:11:14.000 Luke and Matt Lopacek, have you found anything?

02:11:17.000 Any disturbed areas?

02:11:19.000 Any shell casings?

02:11:20.000 I wish I was there.

02:11:21.000 No, we're looking right now.

02:11:23.000 We're also doing a scout of the roads to see if they're still set up on roadblocks or not.

02:11:30.000 Look, look, look.

02:11:30.000 I don't want you to get grabbed or shot by him.

02:11:32.000 I'd stay away from the main road where it empties out.

02:11:35.000 He said he was only a little bit way into the woods when these ghillie suit guys... It'll be so important if you can find shell casings or a bubble gum wrapper or any... I mean...

02:11:48.000 I know you didn't grow up in the woods, but maybe you've got some training in this.

02:11:50.000 It's so obvious.

02:11:52.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:11:53.000 Is it sporadic grass and leaves?

02:11:55.000 Is it gravel?

02:11:56.000 Is it rocks?

02:11:57.000 What are you seeing off the forest path?

02:12:00.000 Off the gravel road?

02:12:01.000 Or is it paved road?

02:12:03.000 Tell me what the road looks like.

02:12:04.000 The road is just gravel.

02:12:06.000 Just plain gravel.

02:12:07.000 What do you see five feet off the road?

02:12:10.000 Is it mainly leaves?

02:12:11.000 Is it grass?

02:12:12.000 What's the forest cover?

02:12:14.000 It's predominantly leaves, brush, and a whole bunch of trees all over the place.

02:12:18.000 Okay, that'll be really easy.

02:12:20.000 He said he wasn't very far up the path, you know, maybe just 20-30 yards.

02:12:25.000 Start at the beginning of the path and just look.

02:12:28.000 Look for, imagine what it would look like if you were laying there for an hour and, you know, in the grass, in the leaves, and just look for leaves and things that are matted down.

02:12:38.000 Jack, you want to describe this to him, what he's looking for?

02:12:41.000 Well, I think you've described it very well, Alex.

02:12:46.000 It's anything out of the ordinary.

02:12:47.000 There may be gum wrappers.

02:12:49.000 They're not allowed to smoke on these details because it's too easy to be seen with scopes, you know, when other people have scopes pointed at you.

02:12:58.000 So they won't be smoking, but there will be chewing gum.

02:13:03.000 Even eating a candy bar.

02:13:05.000 I mean, you know, so there could be something there.

02:13:07.000 But remember, do not touch it with your own fingers.

02:13:10.000 Pick it up with some twigs or something and put it in a container.

02:13:15.000 Even in just your pocket, if you don't have a container with you.

02:13:19.000 Sometimes you have film containers with you, though, you can stick it in.

02:13:23.000 And so, preserve that, because it'll be good evidence one day.

02:13:29.000 Depending on what they do in this.

02:13:31.000 Well, this is going to be able to... This will finally conclusively prove they were shooting and doing this.

02:13:35.000 And the reason you're looking for a bubble gum wrapper, or a Mars Bar wrapper, or a Capri Sun thing, or something small like that, the reason you're looking for that is because then that's where you look for shell casings, okay?

02:13:50.000 That'll be a bigger sign of something else.

02:13:53.000 But most of these guys stick the things in their pocket, but in the dark sometimes it doesn't go in their pocket.

02:13:59.000 Now, again, they weren't very far off the path.

02:14:01.000 He was on the path.

02:14:02.000 The guy popped up right in front of him.

02:14:04.000 So, Luke, where are you right now?

02:14:06.000 Right now, I'm on the main road right now.

02:14:10.000 We're going to go back and do a perimeter area check of everything.

02:14:13.000 We're going to look through all the little details.

02:14:15.000 We're going to make sure we didn't lose one step.

02:14:17.000 We're going to check everything out.

02:14:19.000 And we're going to be on the phone with Ed and Elaine Brown at the same time we're doing that.

02:14:23.000 And, yeah, man, we're going to look at everything.

02:14:26.000 We're going to look everywhere.

02:14:26.000 We can't just find this thing, man.

02:14:29.000 Good job, but listen, he had just started up the road, the road that goes out to the main road, the gravel path.

02:14:39.000 And again, it's going to be that first 30-40 yards, right in there on both sides.

02:14:43.000 You want to be scanning for anything matted down, any type of garbage.

02:14:48.000 Anything now if you pick up garbage and it's got dirt inside of it and it looks faded you know that's old look for fresh wrappers look for if you see a shell casing though another pretty fastidious don't leave shell casings around I've asked them off-air if you see like a you know what an old shell looks like it's gonna be grayish looking it's gonna be oxidized you want shiny brass Yeah, we're going to do a complete sweep of the area.

02:15:11.000 We're going to make sure we don't, you know, lose anything.

02:15:13.000 We're going to make sure we find and look through everything.

02:15:15.000 And that means getting... Look, I'd have you get down on your hands and knees is what I would do. 0.99

02:15:19.000 Each one of you needs to get on the side of the path, look for areas, and then creep along and let those leaves blow and cover things.

02:15:25.000 If something looks a little disturbed, move the leaves around.

02:15:28.000 Any other tips, Jack?

02:15:30.000 Yes, there should be somebody in the area and maybe even Ed and Elaine might have a metal detector.

02:15:36.000 You know, to run over those leaves.

02:15:39.000 And so that would be a great idea if somebody could bring in a metal detector.

02:15:44.000 Like I say, many people have those today.

02:15:47.000 A lot of the people up here in Ockmeyer have metal detectors.

02:15:50.000 And if these brass pieces are under the leaves, you may have trouble finding them.

02:15:56.000 So, it'd be good to sweep the area with a metal detector.

02:16:01.000 It is important to find that, and I can tell you, being in these situations before myself, when you're going in to arrest somebody and attack somebody, you don't have time to police your area after you've fired a couple shots.

02:16:16.000 So those brass shell casings could very well still be there.

02:16:20.000 That's a big deal, folks.

02:16:21.000 Shots were fired.

02:16:22.000 That's confirmed.

02:16:23.000 They lie to the media, which is criminal.

02:16:26.000 And they threaten the person who they fired at and tasered.

02:16:29.000 It's not telling anyone they're 20 years of life in prison.

02:16:31.000 Jack McClam, thank you for spending time with us.

02:16:34.000 Brother, I'm just, I'll be in prayer.

02:16:37.000 All of our people here will be in prayer for you and everybody and Ed and Elaine out there.

02:16:41.000 And also, we're going to pray for these people running this The evil action against the Ed and Elaine Brown family, because if they are logical, they will just back off and leave this family alone.

02:16:57.000 It's the way they can win, and they're going to lose if they go in and kill this family.

02:17:01.000 So, pray that they have common sense and logic, and they'll just back off and leave this family alone.

02:17:08.000 Absolutely.

02:17:09.000 Thank you so much, Jack, for the great analysis.

02:17:11.000 Thank you.

02:17:13.000 Luke and Matt?

02:17:15.000 I just wanted to say one thing.

02:17:17.000 Ed and Elaine Brown are true American heroes.

02:17:19.000 They are so nice.

02:17:20.000 They are so hospitable.

02:17:21.000 They are one of the most beautiful people I have ever met in my life.

02:17:24.000 They are so generous and nice.

02:17:26.000 I can't even explain that.

02:17:28.000 And to call them criminals and to do this to them is really horrible.

02:17:31.000 I think the real criminals are the ones outside, are the federal marshals.

02:17:37.000 Luke, I'm only going to keep you for one more segment and I want to talk to you and I want to talk to Matt and I'm going to let you go so you can look for those cases and you can stay there.

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02:21:58.000 Really serious stuff going on and I'm not going to keep Luke and Matt LePacek too much longer but Luke again man I've said it ten times I mean it I appreciate you deploying out there for InfoWars.com I mean, they're so peaceful, they're so calm.

02:22:16.000 I mean, I'm nervous as hell.

02:22:16.000 It's been up and down, but we're going to have to write up with some servers on that, so you get more redundancy there.

02:22:22.000 But you were trying to make a point about Ed and Lane Brown.

02:22:25.000 They really are good people, and you can hear how at peace they are, which really is a testament to the spirit that is guiding this.

02:22:34.000 Definitely.

02:22:37.000 I mean, they're so peaceful.

02:22:38.000 They're so calm.

02:22:39.000 I mean, I'm nervous as hell.

02:22:42.000 I mean, I'm really nervous here, and I don't know what's going to happen.

02:22:44.000 And these guys are true for you.

02:22:46.000 I mean, very spiritual, very loving and so passionate.

02:22:51.000 And you know, it's such a beautiful thing to be here.

02:22:53.000 And even before you even told me to come out here, it was a gut feeling to come out here.

02:22:58.000 And you know, it's not just about me, but other people should come out here and support these guys, man.

02:23:01.000 Because that's what it's about.

02:23:03.000 I mean, these people are giving everything up, you know, for truth and justice and for the right cause.

02:23:07.000 And the least thing we can do is support them.

02:23:09.000 That's why we're out here.

02:23:10.000 Just to support them.

02:23:11.000 Just to report it.

02:23:12.000 You know, we were supposed to be doing it live, but shut down the internet.

02:23:15.000 But we're going to be here no matter what and we stand behind them.

02:23:21.000 How many cameras do you have now since they broke one of them?

02:23:25.000 We left one in New York and we have one with us right now.

02:23:29.000 And I have, I shouldn't say this, I have a hidden camera also on me now.

02:23:33.000 So you have two cameras?

02:23:35.000 Yeah.

02:23:36.000 You have the hidden camera that was donated and the other camera I sent you.

02:23:38.000 Are you able to dub tapes when you get back?

02:23:40.000 Now that one camera is broken?

02:23:42.000 Is it dubbing or is it just not video?

02:23:44.000 I should, I should be able to borrow a camera from a friend at NW.

02:23:48.000 Well no, I just got to go to the store and buy you more cameras and get them in the mail.

02:23:51.000 In fact, I'll send somebody to buy two more cameras today.

02:23:56.000 We can't wait though, because no one's even seen the Hillary confrontation.

02:24:04.000 No one's seen the Al Gore confrontation.

02:24:06.000 No one's seen the John Edwards confrontation.

02:24:08.000 No one's seen the Gergen confrontation.

02:24:11.000 No one's seen the... I mean, there's all these confrontations.

02:24:15.000 that are huge news that are so important that will spur others to have grassroots resistance and to go out and confront them everywhere.

02:24:21.000 And you're so busy fighting that you can't even deploy the info you've gotten.

02:24:26.000 And you're there now.

02:24:27.000 How long are you planning to stay?

02:24:29.000 Because more people need to get there to relieve you so you can get back to your other operations.

02:24:34.000 I'm going to talk to Ed and Lane and see how they're comfortable with me being there and if they want us to stay.

02:24:41.000 And we'll decide on their part if they want.

02:24:43.000 I still don't know.

02:24:43.000 Let me just get some idea of it.

02:24:45.000 I mean, have a lot more people arrived or what's going on?

02:24:47.000 I don't want to say exactly how many people.

02:24:50.000 It's not like the police aren't counting out at the gate.

02:24:52.000 Yeah, but.

02:24:54.000 I mean, more people need to come out there, obviously.

02:24:58.000 Obviously.

02:24:59.000 Very much so.

02:25:01.000 Very much so.

02:25:02.000 I'm going to talk to you off air and find out exactly what's going on out there.

02:25:06.000 But I know.

02:25:08.000 Not like it's a secret to the government, but the point is, is that we do need a lot more people out there.

02:25:13.000 And if you're going to go, folks, you need to be ready to stay a few months.

02:25:16.000 Let's say you're a retiree, just like a minute man, you know, down on the Texas border, or California, Arizona, New Mexico.

02:25:22.000 Same thing, you know, go bring your tent, or you can stay in the house, they've got a big house.

02:25:27.000 You know, bring a tent, bring whatever.

02:25:30.000 Be ready to stay a month, and then recruit somebody else to come replace you.

02:25:33.000 We need those eyes and ears there.

02:25:37.000 Frankly, it sounds like heaven to me to go hang out there and sit around for a month, but I'm going to stay here and battle all this.

02:25:43.000 If I think they're about to come in, though, I'll jump on a plane and come up there.

02:25:46.000 It isn't my first time to be inside one of these things while it's happening.

02:25:50.000 It's the waiting that gets to you.

02:25:52.000 Have you guys found any shell cases or anything yet?

02:25:56.000 Nothing yet.

02:25:56.000 We're going to do a bigger perimeter scan soon, and we're just going to scan every little piece there.

02:26:01.000 We're going to look at everything there.

02:26:03.000 Well, you know, it's not the perimeter.

02:26:04.000 It's the start of the path.

02:26:05.000 Mm-hmm.

02:26:06.000 We're going to look through everything.

02:26:08.000 We're going to look through everything.

02:26:11.000 Just telling you that right now.

02:26:13.000 Fantastic.

02:26:14.000 Let me talk to LePacek real fast.

02:26:16.000 All right, Matt.

02:26:16.000 Here you go.

02:26:17.000 You're live.

02:26:18.000 Thanks.

02:26:20.000 This is Matt.

02:26:21.000 Hey, Matt.

02:26:22.000 How you doing, my friend?

02:26:23.000 In jail a few days ago for asking a question in New Hampshire.

02:26:26.000 Now you're out there in the middle of the supposed compound.

02:26:30.000 Yeah, Valley of the Beast over here it seems.

02:26:33.000 Quite an interesting evening and developing day.

02:26:36.000 We're having some terrible internet problems over here.

02:26:40.000 I'm ashamed we don't have this broad live access for you guys like we keep saying we are over and over, but we'll get this thing worked out.

02:26:48.000 Hey, doesn't matter.

02:26:48.000 You're there, you're on the air with audio telling us what's happening.

02:26:53.000 Just to sum it all up, what's it like?

02:26:55.000 Well, you know, it's surreal to be honest with you.

02:26:58.000 I mean, we're over here And this compound that yesterday was surrounded by the U.S.

02:27:03.000 Marshals.

02:27:05.000 We're trying to offer whatever assistance we can and making sure that the rights aren't violated and everything online.

02:27:11.000 Right now, this shell, we're going to get a couple of dogs out here and see what we can find in terms of possibly locating some of this ammunition that was shot at this guy.

02:27:24.000 I don't know.

02:27:25.000 I just... I'm hoping that nothing goes down.

02:27:28.000 At the same time, I think I'm hoping the opposite.

02:27:29.000 So we'll see exactly what happens over here in the hours and days to come.

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02:31:20.000 He's now gone public.

02:31:21.000 We're about to go to somebody who had his son CPS'd, and thank God now things are in a little bit better position, but the harassment continues.

02:31:28.000 And then I want to briefly tell you about what happened with the whole protest of Rick Perry and the Bilderberg Group last night.

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02:31:53.000 And we're... I just signed a check for $1,000.

02:31:55.000 And so when you guys get back on Monday or whatever, it's being FedExed.

02:32:00.000 I gotta find out from you if I can FedEx that today overnight or you won't be back.

02:32:04.000 Or if I should FedEx it three day or something so it gets there Monday.

02:32:08.000 But you guys need to get back and get all that video dumped and people need to come there and relieve you Because you've got so many duties and we don't have enough personnel in this fight against the globalists.

02:32:17.000 In the battle for the republic, as Ron Paul said, this is the final battle.

02:32:20.000 It's all coming to a head right now.

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02:32:23.000 But Luke Lopacek, I mean, should I send this three day?

02:32:26.000 We have to do all this on air, folks.

02:32:28.000 We're so limited in time.

02:32:29.000 Or should I do this overnight?

02:32:30.000 How do you want these cameras and checks sent?

02:32:33.000 Well, actually, on the camera side of things, if I could talk to you off the air afterwards.

02:32:38.000 You know, we're planning on being back in New York on Monday, but we're really planning to be here at this point.

02:32:43.000 God knows anything could happen at any point in time over here, so we're staying here.

02:32:46.000 Well, we already broke one of the cameras, and now you've only got two, and it's just, you need more.

02:32:50.000 That's our weapon.

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02:32:53.000 And you're just getting low there.

02:32:55.000 I'm trying to send you more ammunition and funds to pay for the rent car and the food and everything else.

02:32:59.000 I want you guys to be somewhat comfortable with supplies.

02:33:02.000 In fact, I meant to ask you how many people are there off air.

02:33:05.000 I got busy talking about cameras with you.

02:33:07.000 I'm going to put you on hold.

02:33:10.000 Tell John Harmon how many people are there so I have an idea to see what I need to call for.

02:33:16.000 And we won't put it on air how many are there, but just roughly.

02:33:19.000 Are more people arriving?

02:33:20.000 What's happening?

02:33:21.000 Because I don't have time to keep you on hold until the next break, so I'm going to put you on hold, Matt.

02:33:25.000 Tell John Harmon at the network, who obviously he's a great guy, won't tell anybody except me, so I can get an idea with some intelligence on what's going on there.

02:33:34.000 Something everybody, including the feds, knows except us.

02:33:38.000 And we'll find out, okay, Matt?

02:33:40.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:33:41.000 And then I'm going to call you in about 25 minutes when the show's over, okay?

02:33:44.000 Alright, anytime, Alex.

02:33:45.000 Alright, alright.

02:33:46.000 John, get that information from him.

02:33:50.000 We have Danny Reilly now.

02:33:52.000 This is huge.

02:33:54.000 Now, Danny was obviously upset when he did the YouTube.

02:33:56.000 A little bit of profanity.

02:33:57.000 Please don't do that here, Danny Reilly.

02:33:59.000 I've got to ask our guest whose son's been kidnapped, but last week he did get the son back, but he's still under, quote, government custody.

02:34:06.000 CPS is taking him every few days from the grandma to interrogate, to get dirt, try to make stuff up.

02:34:12.000 We're going to go to him in a minute.

02:34:14.000 But Danny Riley, ladies and gentlemen, headline news.

02:34:17.000 They told him 25 years to life if he tells you what you're about to hear.

02:34:20.000 This is incredible.

02:34:22.000 He was shot at and they tasered him.

02:34:25.000 Danny, thank you for coming on, Mr. Riley.

02:34:28.000 Thank you.

02:34:28.000 It's good to be with you, Alex.

02:34:30.000 This is huge breaking news, obviously.

02:34:32.000 Again, this has been confirmed by the Browns, confirmed by others.

02:34:34.000 Brown heard what he said was two shots.

02:34:37.000 Just tell us, blow by blow, in a nutshell, who you are, why you went out there, and the story of walking the dog in more detail.

02:34:44.000 Just boil it down, and then being shot at, exactly how it happened, when they tasered you, then what they told you, and who they were.

02:34:53.000 Okay, first of all, I live just outside Albany, New York.

02:34:56.000 I'm just an average guy.

02:34:57.000 I go out there to support Ed because I believe in the cause, of course, just like you do.

02:35:03.000 And I was out there visiting and yesterday morning I was going to leave, you know, around noon.

02:35:09.000 So I got up and I seen a pot of coffee had already been made.

02:35:13.000 Nobody else was around.

02:35:14.000 I just got myself a cup of coffee and I noticed the dog wanted to go out.

02:35:18.000 So I walked outside.

02:35:19.000 It was a beautiful, sunny morning.

02:35:21.000 You know, no wind.

02:35:22.000 Everything was great.

02:35:24.000 Walk in and me and the dog started walking up the driveway.

02:35:27.000 And the dog scented something.

02:35:30.000 He was like looking in the woods and then he would look back at me.

02:35:32.000 And he did that like four or five times.

02:35:35.000 We walked all the way up to the end of the driveway where it meets the road where the mailbox is.

02:35:41.000 And so that forms a T. Red driveway hits the road and the road goes by.

02:35:46.000 It forms a T.

02:35:48.000 And if you keep looking straight, as if you came up Edge Driveway and just didn't take your right turn and went straight into the woods, that's where I noticed the guy in the woods.

02:35:56.000 He was like messing with his car.

02:35:57.000 Let me stop, let me stop, because I misunderstood the video I saw of you earlier.

02:36:01.000 Or maybe it's a short driveway.

02:36:02.000 You described you'd just gone into the woods when this happened.

02:36:05.000 Where do they look for shell casings?

02:36:07.000 We need to find the shell casings.

02:36:08.000 I'll tell you exactly where they are.

02:36:10.000 Okay, where the mailbox is.

02:36:10.000 Okay.

02:36:13.000 Go up to where the mailbox is, where it meets, uh, what is it?

02:36:15.000 Center of Town Road?

02:36:17.000 Right there where Ed's driveway meets that road, look straight into the woods.

02:36:21.000 As if you gotta take a right to go to town.

02:36:22.000 If you go straight, you're into the Supreme Court Justices' land there.

02:36:26.000 Look straight in there, you'll see it.

02:36:27.000 They cleared, they cut all the branches out for a clear shot, and I seen the guy in the woods.

02:36:33.000 Okay.

02:36:33.000 So just like deer hunters, they cut a little avenue, a little track.

02:36:37.000 Right.

02:36:38.000 When I bow hunt, I cut the branches away so my arrow won't hit none.

02:36:41.000 So I noticed that.

02:36:41.000 Same thing.

02:36:43.000 I didn't notice that yet.

02:36:44.000 I looked.

02:36:44.000 I seen the guy in the woods.

02:36:46.000 Let me just stop you. 0.99

02:36:46.000 He was looking. 0.99

02:36:47.000 Let me just stop you. 1.00

02:36:48.000 This is for idiots like me to explain it. 1.00

02:36:51.000 I'm standing right in front of the mailboxes looking out towards the main road. 1.00

02:36:55.000 Okay.

02:36:56.000 The mailboxes are the center of a watch dial, you know, 1 to 12.

02:37:02.000 Okay, the mailboxes are the center of the watch dial, and 12 is looking out towards the main road.

02:37:09.000 Where do we go on the watch dial to find the casings?

02:37:12.000 Okay, if 12 is pointing down the main road from the mailbox, if you came out to the top and hit the road and took a right, pointing that way, it would be at about 4 or 5 o'clock.

02:37:24.000 Right at the end of the driveway, Alex.

02:37:26.000 If you're coming down your driveway and you gotta take a right to go down the road or else you go straight into the woods, If you kept driving, you'd go straight into the woods, and that's where the guy... So they were across the street on the other property?

02:37:39.000 Them two, the first two I seen, yes.

02:37:42.000 On the other property.

02:37:43.000 Who took the shot at you?

02:37:45.000 Uh, it was either a guy who was laying on the ground, I assume, that popped up right in front of me, because at that point, um... These guys really had bug fever, they couldn't shoot you up that close.

02:37:55.000 He told me he missed me on purpose.

02:37:57.000 Okay, good.

02:37:58.000 That's what the sniper said to me.

02:38:00.000 So, uh, then, um, you know, at that point, I said, what are you doing, turkey hunting?

02:38:06.000 Because last time I was up there, turkey hunting was going on, but I was under the assumption that the season was over.

02:38:12.000 And then I noticed the cut branches, and I was like, uh-oh.

02:38:14.000 At that point, the dog came up alongside of me and took one or two steps off the ground, the road, the dirt road, into the underbrush.

02:38:21.000 At that point, the guy sprung up literally two feet in front of me, right in front of me, Alex, and said, freeze.

02:38:26.000 And then I turned around, running full speed.

02:38:28.000 Actually, my hamstring, I think I pulled it.

02:38:30.000 Running full speed and... And then I was running... I was screaming at the top of my lungs, don't shoot him! 0.96

02:38:44.000 I'm armed!

02:38:45.000 And all of a sudden, on each side of Ed's road, all these guys popped up out of the woods.

02:38:50.000 And now I know why the dog was sent and hit... This is the best way.

02:38:53.000 Let's say the center of the clock.

02:38:55.000 Twelve o'clock, okay, and six o'clock is behind you at the Browns' house.

02:38:59.000 Twelve o'clock is across the street into the other brush.

02:39:02.000 Twelve o'clock, twelve o'clock is where Browns Road meets, twelve o'clock is where Browns Road, Ed Browns Road meets the county road, or meets the main road.

02:39:12.000 Okay, where did the shots come from in relation to the center of the dial?

02:39:17.000 Let's put it this way, by the way, it makes a T. His road makes a T, his driveway hits the main road and it makes a T. Right at the top of the T.

02:39:24.000 So if the driveway was going off, you'd go over there.

02:39:26.000 Ok, ok, ok.

02:39:27.000 Luke, and then when you call them back right now, you've got their cell, John, please.

02:39:30.000 Call them and tell them it's at the top of the T, where Browns Road ends and hits the main road.

02:39:35.000 Go right over into there and look around.

02:39:39.000 Did it sound like a 223?

02:39:40.000 You know, more of the... Yeah.

02:39:41.000 No, it sounded like a 223.

02:39:43.000 So it sounded like 223, not 308?

02:39:44.000 So it sounded like 223, not 308.

02:39:44.000 Yep.

02:39:48.000 Yep, exactly.

02:39:49.000 So, yeah, and once he gets up to the top of the driveway and you're looking at the T, the top of the T, like, you know, you go off the T if it was across.

02:39:59.000 But anyways, right there, you'll see all the brush that they cut.

02:40:01.000 It's still gotta be cut.

02:40:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:40:03.000 You'll see all the fresh cut limbs.

02:40:05.000 Right there is where the guy was laying, where he popped up.

02:40:08.000 And, uh, so he shot at me, so they should be to the right of that. 0.60

02:40:12.000 It should be right to the right of that.

02:40:13.000 You'll see it immediately when you get to the top of the driveway.

02:40:15.000 You'll see all the cut branches.

02:40:17.000 I understand.

02:40:17.000 So they're... So they're... Luke Rodalski's got to get video of that.

02:40:20.000 John, tell him to get video immediately of the cut branches.

02:40:24.000 And he's got to get back to New York or to a hotel.

02:40:27.000 Tell him, get to a hotel with high-speed internet.

02:40:29.000 Get raw footage.

02:40:30.000 He doesn't have to do fancy music and cutaways.

02:40:33.000 Raw footage of those cutaway branches.

02:40:36.000 Of where those... These criminals were hiding out. 0.69

02:40:39.000 Now, what happened to you next, sir?

02:40:42.000 Alright, when I was turning around, running from my bike basically, I was expecting the next shot to go through my back, you know?

02:40:48.000 They popped up on each side of me.

02:40:50.000 Freeze, freeze, freeze, all their guns.

02:40:52.000 So now you're running back into Brown's property, and these guys were on his property?

02:40:57.000 Actually, Ed has an easement.

02:40:58.000 So he just owns his driveway, not to the left of it, it's his neighbor's.

02:41:02.000 I understand, but my point is they were off the main road into the area that Brown's property is on.

02:41:09.000 They're now on the other side of the road.

02:41:11.000 They were on private property, yes.

02:41:12.000 Okay, I understand.

02:41:13.000 So they popped up.

02:41:15.000 And I was like, you got me, you got me, and I put my hands forward, and I dropped my coffee cup, and I put my hands forward, you got me, you got me, and then I heard some guy say, tase him!

02:41:24.000 And then I was hit, and I was on the ground squirming like a fish out of water.

02:41:27.000 I retched my hand up to grab the taser.

02:41:29.000 When it hit me, it was my first instinct.

02:41:31.000 My hand all swelled up.

02:41:32.000 And what they do to you then is they shoot you, claiming you went for a weapon.

02:41:35.000 They just love to tase us, folks.

02:41:38.000 No, I didn't go for a weapon.

02:41:39.000 I put my hands out straight.

02:41:40.000 No, I understand what I'm saying.

02:41:42.000 I read all the cases where They pull up to the wrong house for a drug raid.

02:41:45.000 There's a Marine back with no criminal record, you know, Marine officer and they just run up and tase him three times and they tell him put your hands up and he can't and he's vomiting that they've hit him so many times and they just put a gun right to his chest to read three rounds.

02:41:59.000 It's like real sick games they play.

02:42:01.000 You saw him, he wasn't under control.

02:42:03.000 I've seen them let police dogs sit there and bite people while they're tasing them and they're laughing.

02:42:08.000 You guys are all going to get cancer. 0.76

02:42:10.000 Your kids are going to die in car wrecks.

02:42:11.000 It's not us going to do it.

02:42:12.000 God's going to do it to you.

02:42:13.000 And I'm telling you, that's how the world works.

02:42:15.000 I hope you know you've not gotten away with any of it.

02:42:18.000 Go ahead.

02:42:18.000 Sorry, sir.

02:42:20.000 So then they tased me.

02:42:22.000 It felt like an eternity.

02:42:24.000 Then they laid on top of me and put their knee on my head.

02:42:28.000 My head had a big bruise on it.

02:42:30.000 They just coughed me up and dragged me into the woods.

02:42:33.000 Then they all went back lying down.

02:42:35.000 And then they rushed in a black SUV with tinted windows and threw me in the vehicle.

02:42:41.000 Now, were they federal?

02:42:42.000 Who were they?

02:42:42.000 They were all marshals.

02:42:45.000 Federal marshals.

02:42:46.000 And I'm told, the Browns have told me this, they told you that you'd get 25 to life?

02:42:51.000 Have you told anybody about it?

02:42:54.000 They said if I talked to the media, I'm looking at 15 years.

02:42:57.000 I'm risking everything.

02:42:58.000 I'm risking everything, you know, but I'm willing to stand... Well, this is the new America, where you're just out there to see what's happening.

02:43:05.000 They attack you, they shoot at you, they taser you, and then they tell you, what were their names?

02:43:11.000 I mean, describe what they looked like.

02:43:12.000 What did they say?

02:43:14.000 They all had them, I'd say, they had them ghillie suits on.

02:43:19.000 You know, the military wears, you know, them ghillie suits, they call them.

02:43:23.000 Anybody can Google it and get a picture of it.

02:43:26.000 Yeah, they look like walking mops, like sheep dogs.

02:43:30.000 Go ahead.

02:43:31.000 Right, and underneath it on their front, they just have like regular green uniforms on.

02:43:36.000 And it just said Special Operations Unit, U.S.

02:43:38.000 Marshals.

02:43:40.000 And then they rushed me out of there.

02:43:42.000 We went down and they parked me at a garage.

02:43:45.000 I think so.

02:43:45.000 Now, did you hear any talk about, did you hear any talk like, are we going ahead or any radios about, is the operation going?

02:43:52.000 Or did you hear any numbers?

02:43:53.000 What did you hear?

02:43:54.000 They just kept, no, I didn't really hear much of that.

02:43:58.000 They would go out of the car and have the radios off when they were in the car with me.

02:44:02.000 And then they just told me the situation is deteriorating.

02:44:06.000 We need your help to try to talk that out.

02:44:08.000 And then they drove me back up there.

02:44:09.000 And the center of town wrote it.

02:44:12.000 When I left, there was nothing.

02:44:13.000 When I came back, there was like three state police roadblocks with full, you know, M-16s, all that.

02:44:19.000 A helicopter landed in the field.

02:44:21.000 There was ambulances.

02:44:22.000 Now, let me tell everybody what they were planning to do.

02:44:24.000 They were planning to go up and snipe Ed and Elaine Brown through their windows or in their front yards.

02:44:28.000 They were going in to do snipe-kill ops.

02:44:30.000 There's no doubt about it now. 1.00

02:44:32.000 Definitely we're going to snipe and kill people. 1.00

02:44:35.000 You probably would have got killed with them. 1.00

02:44:36.000 Your life is saved, buddy, because of this.

02:44:39.000 And right now, I'm going to tell you, now we know what was going on.

02:44:42.000 Those snipers wouldn't have pulled the trigger.

02:44:44.000 They didn't already have shoot-to-kill orders.

02:44:46.000 They were already fully authorized to use deadly force, ladies and gentlemen.

02:44:49.000 And we know what the main attack is going to be.

02:44:51.000 It's going to be sniper attacks, concerted, just like Lon Horiyuchi and Ruby Ridge, or he was at Waco as well.

02:44:57.000 It's going to be sniper attacks on that house.

02:44:59.000 There is absolutely no doubt now what is going to happen.

02:45:04.000 And then their sniper operation got exposed, so they shut down the roads and everything else while they were trying to extract their people.

02:45:12.000 That clearly is what happened.

02:45:15.000 And you know what?

02:45:15.000 I'm going to have to reschedule the fellow with the CPS.

02:45:18.000 I've done this three times to you, twice, but I have to.

02:45:22.000 I'm going to have him up in about one minute in the next segment so you can get the numbers of the CPS to back off, but I promise you I'll have you up on Sunday, on the Sunday show or on Monday.

02:45:30.000 Mr. Schwab is waiting there.

02:45:32.000 This is unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen, and this is the end of the Republic, or it's the beginning of the reclaiming of it, depending on how you look at it or where we go from here.

02:45:42.000 But, uh, and then of course they lied to the media and claimed that local police just happened to pick him up.

02:45:46.000 Imagine how obvious it is.

02:45:47.000 There's tanks and troops and helicopters and they're saying, there's no raid, there's no plan.

02:45:52.000 And the media goes with this lie.

02:45:54.000 Now, is it accurate that they told you to then go lie and say that local police had picked you up and it was no big deal?

02:46:01.000 What did they tell you to do next?

02:46:03.000 Uh, after I went back to, uh, they said they were bringing me back up to help negotiate with Ed.

02:46:08.000 After they drove me back up, uh, I witnessed a bunch of personal APCs with all kinds of guys, you know, in that fancy gear they wear.

02:46:15.000 How many APCs?

02:46:17.000 I think four.

02:46:18.000 Okay, five.

02:46:19.000 In the Massachusetts ones, there was regular ones that just said SWAT on them.

02:46:25.000 They were all, like, black in color. 0.77

02:46:28.000 You know, they were all... Were they four-wheeled or six-wheeled?

02:46:33.000 I think they were four-wheeled.

02:46:35.000 Were they big tractor tires or small ones?

02:46:39.000 A little bit smaller ones.

02:46:41.000 Those Tinker Toys will be in deep trouble.

02:46:44.000 Alright, um... Well, yeah, then they brought me, then they told me change of plans.

02:46:49.000 They're going down to the Tateman of Lebanon Police Department.

02:46:51.000 And yes, it is true. 0.55

02:46:52.000 They told me to go back to Ed's.

02:46:54.000 And they said, uh, tell them that, uh, the U.S.

02:46:57.000 Marshals were serving a warrant via the mailbox.

02:47:00.000 And, uh, they whistled you to come over and talk to them.

02:47:02.000 And when they flashed the badges, you turned around and ran.

02:47:05.000 And they tackled you to the ground.

02:47:08.000 And when I, and I went down there and, uh, Ed already knew everything that happened, pretty much, because all the locals and everything was calling him already.

02:47:16.000 So I just told Ed what had happened, the truth, you know?

02:47:19.000 And then after I left Ed, I had a rendezvous with him again.

02:47:22.000 They told me, you know, and if I stay there and re-bunker up with Ed, you might as well kiss my life goodbye, they said.

02:47:29.000 You know, pretty much I'll spend the rest of my life in jail, you know, if I don't come back out.

02:47:34.000 So I went back in there, got my stuff, you know, Just cried when I left, you know, because I think the next time I'm going to see him, you know, it might not be a good situation.

02:47:44.000 But anyways, I left.

02:47:45.000 I re-rendezvoused with him.

02:47:48.000 And they said, who was the guy who left in the minivan that just left?

02:47:51.000 I said, I think his name is Bernie or Brian or something.

02:47:56.000 And then I said, OK, you're free to go.

02:47:59.000 They looked around my car a little bit, and then they let me go.

02:48:01.000 So then I was driving through the mountains of Vermont.

02:48:03.000 I had no cell phone coverage.

02:48:05.000 And then when I came back, I had a message.

02:48:07.000 I checked it.

02:48:07.000 It said, Danny, this is Bernie.

02:48:09.000 I mean, um, the police got me.

02:48:11.000 Call me on the number that pops up on my, uh, popped up on your screen.

02:48:15.000 And, uh, no number never popped up on my screen, so I never called them.

02:48:18.000 But, uh, my understanding is Bernie was picked up, too.

02:48:22.000 And he was just going into town to get groceries.

02:48:24.000 And by the way, anybody even taking pictures of the police in the city are interrogated and grabbed out of their cars. 0.98

02:48:30.000 Just a pack of un-American scum running around enjoying themselves while illegal aliens get total tax amnesty under the new amnesty plan. 0.99

02:48:39.000 Final segment straight ahead. 0.99

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02:51:52.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:51:55.000 As the situation develops, I may do another live show on Genesis during my 9 to midnight slot.

02:52:04.000 That's generally a rebroadcast, if need be, this evening.

02:52:07.000 I'll definitely be back Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

02:52:08.000 live.

02:52:10.000 And I really want to apologize to Raymond Schwab That's Shalom Ministries who had his son taken by CPS at a wedding.

02:52:18.000 We're about to go back to Danny Reilly in the last few minutes we've got.

02:52:24.000 You certainly understand this could be the beginning of a revolution.

02:52:26.000 People have already been shot at.

02:52:28.000 We're talking life and death.

02:52:28.000 That's why I've been moving you around.

02:52:31.000 But I just want to bring him up for just a moment.

02:52:33.000 Raymond, what do you think about all the things that are happening here?

02:52:36.000 Not just your son being stolen, now you guys have gotten him back, but only to the grandmother.

02:52:40.000 They're talking about even taking him from there now.

02:52:45.000 Where has all this taken place?

02:52:47.000 This is in Kansas.

02:52:48.000 I'm actually in Missouri still walking across the country because of our ministry.

02:52:53.000 They're pretty much now telling me that I need to quit my job and come back to Kansas and stay there with no way to support my family.

02:53:00.000 No way to fight this legally so they can observe me with my son.

02:53:06.000 I'm about to get off the phone with you and call some attorneys.

02:53:08.000 They've split my family up.

02:53:11.000 Of course, it never ends there.

02:53:12.000 They're always looking for dirt.

02:53:13.000 Now, your son's not young enough. 1.00

02:53:16.000 They like to get them really young to rape them. 1.00

02:53:20.000 Most of these groups are open pedophile rings. 1.00

02:53:23.000 I'm serious, folks.

02:53:24.000 That's why we're so freaked out.

02:53:26.000 By the way, Kansas is one of the worst.

02:53:31.000 It comes up on our radar quite a bit.

02:53:32.000 Florida, of course, is the king.

02:53:34.000 Texas is pretty bad.

02:53:34.000 Michigan.

02:53:37.000 Give out your phone number for folks that might want to help you or people in Kansas.

02:53:40.000 Give us the name of the town and how we can help you.

02:53:43.000 The town's Manhattan, Kansas.

02:53:45.000 We're currently, like I said, still walking across the country.

02:53:48.000 We have a court date, June 28th.

02:53:50.000 Our website's on InfoWars.com.

02:53:52.000 It's BatesShalomMinistries.org.

02:53:54.000 But I mean, Ryan, people can go watch videos and get the whole story.

02:53:57.000 But basically what's happening is they met.

02:53:59.000 First they grabbed the child.

02:54:00.000 Then they said, okay, you can go to the grandmother.

02:54:02.000 But then now they're trying to fully, you know, now even take the child from her. 0.91

02:54:06.000 Well, they won't even let my wife sit alone with him, which is ridiculous.

02:54:10.000 You're saying being involved in 9-11 Truths, I've talked to you over there, and the fact that during the summer he was going in the RV with you, that he's seven, that homeschooling is illegal.

02:54:19.000 It's an incredible story, I promise.

02:54:20.000 We'll have you up for at least 45 minutes on Monday, okay?

02:54:23.000 Thank you, sir.

02:54:23.000 Unless there's some big giant shootout or something.

02:54:26.000 Well, let's hope not.

02:54:27.000 I pray for the Browns and I know it's important as well.

02:54:30.000 Absolutely, thank you.

02:54:31.000 Going back now in the closing minutes here, There's a huge story, folks.

02:54:37.000 Go to PrisonPlanet.com, get this.

02:54:39.000 They fired at them, and then they claim that no police were there, and that nothing happened.

02:54:44.000 They shut down roads, evacuated everyone.

02:54:45.000 They're firing at people, grabbing people.

02:54:47.000 They're like, we're not there.

02:54:49.000 We don't exist.

02:54:50.000 There's no amnesty.

02:54:51.000 By the way, they're bringing the amnesty back up next week, by the way.

02:54:55.000 It could even be this afternoon.

02:54:56.000 I mean, just endless lies, endless evil.

02:55:02.000 Daniel Reilly, anything else you need to add, sir?

02:55:05.000 I could say, you know, you say I saved my life, but I feel as if I'm not out of the woods by far.

02:55:10.000 I feel as if they're going to come back for me after, you know, they get the big fish, they're going to come for the small ones.

02:55:15.000 Well, they terrorize people.

02:55:16.000 That's terrorism to say we're going to put you in jail if you don't do what we say and go lie to the media and go lie to everybody. 0.99

02:55:22.000 They're criminals.

02:55:23.000 And they've lied to the media and said they weren't there and it's going to be exposed what they've done.

02:55:30.000 If Luke or any of them need more advice or they can call me, I believe you've got my number Alex.

02:55:36.000 Yes, you're going to give your number to Luke and them and this is a serious situation as it develops.

02:55:42.000 We'll continue to watch it, we'll continue to cover it.

02:55:44.000 I think you've seen the most complete coverage of anywhere with Jack McClam, the Browns, Luke Rudowsky, Matt Lipasik, and now of course Danny Riley on the line.

02:55:54.000 Just Infowars.com is the website.

02:55:57.000 Three hours of continual coverage will come after this and of course the podcasting at Infowars.com.

02:56:02.000 But the biggest thing you can do listeners is get the truth out of the media cover up here that there were shots fired, they were about to do sniper attacks.

02:56:10.000 That's what they were preparing for on the house. 0.91

02:56:12.000 There's no doubt of it with this ghillie suited thugs. 1.00

02:56:14.000 We know that's the M.O. 0.86

02:56:16.000 We've got to stop them.

02:56:17.000 We've got to get the news out. 0.94

02:56:19.000 They wanted to do this quietly and kill everybody.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all. 0.93

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