Alex Jones Show - 20070807_Tue_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:31.000 Welcome.

00:00:32.000 It is August 7, 2007.

00:00:36.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours as we are each weekday, Monday through Friday, from 11 a.m.

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00:01:10.000 Paul Craig Roberts, father of Reaganomics, The head of the Treasury Department in policy, number two of the Treasury Department, editor of the Wall Street Journal, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, will be joining us coming up in 30 minutes to talk about the police state, the New World Order.

00:01:31.000 He normally visits us once a month, but so much has been happening, he's been visiting us about twice a month.

00:01:36.000 We appreciate that, he's coming up in 30 minutes.

00:01:39.000 Then he hadn't been on in about six, seven months, Tex Mars!

00:01:43.000 We'll be joining us to talk about a whole host of issues in the second hour, and then Michael Rivero with his monthly visit from WhatReallyHappened.com, my good friend and a fellow Genesis Talk Show host, will be popping in as well and joining us in the third hour.

00:02:00.000 And we will open the phones up for Tex Mars.

00:02:03.000 We will open the phones up for Mike Rivero.

00:02:07.000 In the meantime, I've got about 20 clips I haven't played in the last week.

00:02:11.000 I keep sending them to John.

00:02:13.000 Harman up at Genesis in Minnesota.

00:02:15.000 I'm down here in Austin, Texas.

00:02:17.000 We haven't been getting to many of them, so during the break I'm going to go back over a bunch of the clips we've got.

00:02:21.000 I want to play this Penn and Teller, because Penn and Teller are horrible on 9-11, but then they're correct on global warming.

00:02:30.000 And so I want to illustrate not just global warming and being man-made, being a fraud, and the global carbon tax, And how they could get people to sign a petition to ban water, which they indeed did do.

00:02:42.000 I saw a similar petition many years ago, I think it was on Jay Leno, where they got people to sign a petition to ban salt.

00:02:48.000 Because if you use the scientific name for salt, it sounds like something that'll eat the paint off your house and give you an orange afro, as they say in Spies Like Us.

00:03:00.000 And they signed right on to it.

00:03:01.000 In fact, you can That's why carbon dioxide has a scary sounding name and we're about to have a global tax to stop it when it is literally the prime engine of life.

00:03:12.000 Plants are the base engine for the other forms of more complex life.

00:03:18.000 You learn that in sixth grade biology.

00:03:21.000 Plants are more important than animals.

00:03:26.000 The planet would go on without animals.

00:03:27.000 It would not do too well without plants.

00:03:30.000 But the two, it's symbiotic, the two are intertwined, but to have to get up here on air and explain, I know most of you know this, most of you are smarter than I am, but to have to continue to explain that carbon dioxide is a wonderful gas, and has been more than ten times heavier and more frequent, it's one of the more rare gases right now, and it's been directly connected to desertification, the deserts, it's been directly connected to a lot of problems in the oceans, And that the warming periods are just milk and honey.

00:04:03.000 The big maxim period that they had during the Stone Age, 9,000 to 4,000 years ago, when it was well over 10 degrees hotter, was again a time of milk and honey.

00:04:14.000 And when actual civilization first developed, going from the hunter-gatherer to the agrarian, and then from there to the city-state, and now here we are, voila.

00:04:25.000 But I mean, they've also done mammal studies.

00:04:28.000 They've been doing these for over 70 years with mice, skinny pigs.

00:04:31.000 They've done it with birds, too.

00:04:34.000 And guess what?

00:04:35.000 You live longer and you're healthier in a higher oxygen environment.

00:04:40.000 And of course, that is directly driven by carbon dioxide levels.

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00:08:11.000 They are getting ready to reintroduce a new blanket amnesty pardon bill.

00:08:19.000 And don't whine.

00:08:20.000 I mean, this is the enemy of the Republic.

00:08:22.000 They're sworn to bring down this country.

00:08:24.000 Publicly.

00:08:25.000 CFR's sworn to do it thousands of times.

00:08:28.000 David Rockefeller's sworn to do it and published a best-selling book saying he'll do it.

00:08:34.000 And the fact that they're coming back means we've got to whoop them one more time.

00:08:38.000 So, we'll be going over that.

00:08:41.000 Also, Fox News uncovers Ron Paul's most shocking skeleton in the closet, and we say that sarcastically.

00:08:48.000 We'll be going over that.

00:08:49.000 Romney supporters outnumber Paul's.

00:08:51.000 You decide.

00:08:52.000 ABC News, then misrepresenting again.

00:08:54.000 We have the video to prove it.

00:08:56.000 We'll be going over, and it's not just about Ron Paul, it's about learning how to see media distortion.

00:09:03.000 Also, Georgia, and I'm not talking about Georgia Peaches, I mean over in the Eastern Bloc, former Eastern Bloc, says Russia has attacked them.

00:09:11.000 This is out of BBC.

00:09:13.000 And just a bunch of other really important news.

00:09:15.000 But right now, let's play this Penn and Teller piece.

00:09:18.000 Because it's extremely accurate.

00:09:20.000 But then on the other side, notice they use facts here.

00:09:23.000 And evidence to disprove. 1.00

00:09:25.000 But when they attack 9-11 Truth-Eaters, they just call us idiots and say we should be physically assaulted. 0.99

00:09:30.000 But see, Penn and Teller have to say some things that are true on their HBO show. 0.99

00:09:34.000 Or is it?

00:09:36.000 It's one of those channels.

00:09:37.000 I think I've seen it once or twice.

00:09:38.000 It's one of those big cable channels.

00:09:41.000 Is it HBO or is it Showtime?

00:09:43.000 There you go.

00:09:44.000 My memory said no, it's not.

00:09:46.000 It's not HBO.

00:09:48.000 It's something else.

00:09:48.000 Yeah, Showtime.

00:09:52.000 So they have to mix some truth in with their lies, but what they're saying right here is absolutely accurate and I have seen this done on other TV programs and I personally have experienced it myself.

00:10:04.000 One time when I was about, I guess it's a college trick, When I was about 10 or 11, my dad said the scientific name for salt and said, you know, do you want to not have that?

00:10:13.000 You know, not want to eat that?

00:10:14.000 Does that sound like poison to you?

00:10:16.000 And I said, yeah, yeah.

00:10:17.000 And he said, no, that's that's salt.

00:10:19.000 So I learned this, I guess, trick a long time ago.

00:10:21.000 But this is what they're doing with carbon dioxide with the whole man-made global warming fraud.

00:10:26.000 Here it is.

00:10:27.000 We sent one of our pals, Chris McGaha, to a rally to collect signatures for a petition.

00:10:33.000 She's going to ask people to sign a petition banning dihydrogen monoxide.

00:10:38.000 That's dihydrogen monoxide.

00:10:44.000 Water.

00:10:44.000 That's right, water.

00:10:46.000 And she's not going to lie or even stretch the truth.

00:10:48.000 Not at all.

00:10:49.000 She's just going to talk about what water is and what it does with the vocabulary and tone of environmental hysteria. 0.98

00:10:59.000 This is a petition for dihydrogen monoxide.

00:11:01.000 What it is, is it's a chemical that is found now in reservoirs and in lakes.

00:11:05.000 Pesticides, different kind of companies are using this.

00:11:08.000 Styrofoam companies, nuclear companies.

00:11:12.000 And now when they use it in pesticides, when we're washing our fruit and things like that, it's not coming out.

00:11:17.000 Which of course means that it ends up in the grocery stores and in our baby's food and stuff like that.

00:11:21.000 Causes excessive sweating, excessive urination.

00:11:24.000 Anything to help the environment.

00:11:26.000 These people signed.

00:11:28.000 We don't know if they fought, but they signed.

00:11:31.000 There we are.

00:11:32.000 Can I get you guys to sign a petition?

00:11:33.000 What for?

00:11:34.000 For banning dihydrogen monoxide.

00:11:37.000 Oh yeah, I'll sign that.

00:11:38.000 Thank you very much.

00:11:39.000 And our petition woman was getting signatures left and right.

00:11:42.000 Okay, mostly left.

00:11:43.000 But man, there's a lot of people against that evil water.

00:11:47.000 It's everywhere and we just really need to ban it.

00:11:51.000 These passionate, informed people didn't even need to ask what dihydrogen monoxide is.

00:11:56.000 They didn't even ask.

00:11:58.000 Is passion supposed to replace common sense?

00:12:02.000 We understand the desire to join up and do something important.

00:12:06.000 It's sexy to save the world.

00:12:09.000 You gotta spend a couple of minutes to find out if you're really saving the world and not just being herded around by some politically motivated a**hole who may not really care that much about the environment but see this as some chance to raise money for whatever they think is a good idea.

00:12:27.000 No end justifies the means of lying.

00:12:32.000 Man, there were a lot of people who signed the petition. 0.93

00:12:34.000 And we're not talking a handful of dopes.

00:12:36.000 We're talking hundreds.

00:12:38.000 It causes a lot of urination, vomiting.

00:12:44.000 Even the head organizer of this rally signed the petition eagerly.

00:12:53.000 And our petition was still getting signatures.

00:12:56.000 Companies like pesticide companies, styrofoam companies, nuclear companies, all of these people use it.

00:13:01.000 Are you concerned about water?

00:13:05.000 I am.

00:13:05.000 Is water something that should be banned?

00:13:11.000 What sort of water?

00:13:12.000 Water.

00:13:13.000 Should be banned?

00:13:14.000 Yeah.

00:13:15.000 No, I don't think so.

00:13:16.000 I think we need to drink water.

00:13:17.000 I don't know what you mean by water should be banned.

00:13:21.000 It's a petition to ban water.

00:13:23.000 It's a hydrogen monoxide.

00:13:26.000 It's water.

00:13:27.000 H2O.

00:13:28.000 No, no, no.

00:13:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:29.000 We set these folks up.

00:13:37.000 But it does show that maybe they're not so much environmentalists as they are joiners of anything. 0.79

00:13:45.000 Now, the call to ban and restrict and tax carbon, carbon dioxide, for a global tax is just as ridiculous.

00:13:56.000 Just as, I mean, it is one of the three gases, the water is two gases, so I guess there's four gases we need.

00:14:05.000 The two gases that go into water and then carbon dioxide and oxygen.

00:14:13.000 We desperately need those four gases.

00:14:16.000 That is the basic building blocks of life.

00:14:19.000 And so when they want to restrict carbon dioxide, ladies and gentlemen, they are literally taxing life.

00:14:25.000 And they brag about this.

00:14:26.000 They say it's a fraud in their own documents.

00:14:28.000 And they say they've got to run a scam on us and we can publish them and show them to you and show you where to get them.

00:14:34.000 You know, the hippie types out there who mean well, you've invested in this and you'll argue with me.

00:14:40.000 You'll just say, no, no, no.

00:14:41.000 Or a lot of you, like Rothschild did, will say, well, regardless, we need to restrict these and we need to cut back on fossil fuel use and we need to get conscious about the environment.

00:14:52.000 Well, I think fossil fuels are dirty compared to a lot of other energies.

00:14:55.000 I agree.

00:15:00.000 We need to worry about the environment.

00:15:01.000 There are some serious concerns, but setting up a world government with world taxation power does nothing to address those.

00:15:09.000 In fact, this is negative, and this is bad, because this then causes people not to address serious environmental crises and serious environmental degradation that is going on big time.

00:15:21.000 And I care about the environment.

00:15:23.000 I like little twitty birds and lizards, too.

00:15:25.000 But let me tell you, I care about my family a lot more.

00:15:28.000 And the stuff going on in the environment, and my little baby's got good livers, but still, it's not good for him.

00:15:34.000 And I don't like them breathing the coal-fired plants with the dirty coal here in Texas they've got that are full of mercury.

00:15:41.000 No, I don't appreciate that.

00:15:43.000 And I've got scientific studies showing the mercury level.

00:15:46.000 I mean, it's a fact.

00:15:47.000 It isn't good.

00:15:48.000 Okay?

00:15:48.000 I want to restrict that right now.

00:15:52.000 But the problem is that it'll explode prices.

00:15:54.000 And the problem is Bill Clinton laid off use Millions of acres of national and state land in Utah, which in Canada followed suit across the border, of clean burning coal that has, let me give you this number, almost zero.

00:16:12.000 It's in the parts per billions of mercury instead of the parts per thousands, ladies and gentlemen.

00:16:17.000 You see, the New World Order systematically does insane, horrible things.

00:16:24.000 D.U.

00:16:25.000 used in four countries in the atmosphere.

00:16:28.000 Eight times its safe levels in England.

00:16:30.000 Four times its safe levels in the U.S.

00:16:32.000 We're breathing it.

00:16:33.000 Thousands and thousands.

00:16:35.000 What the U.S.

00:16:35.000 government did, what is it, 16,000 above ground nuclear tests?

00:16:40.000 I was doing research on that number the other day and I was just blown away by it.

00:16:44.000 Total, it's over 30,000 tests that have been done above ground.

00:16:48.000 I mean, they'd have knights out in the You know, deserts of Arizona and New Mexico and out in the South Pacific where they detonate 10, 15, 20 nukes in the atmosphere.

00:16:58.000 Not even on the ground, above ground, which is in the atmosphere, but up in the higher atmosphere.

00:17:04.000 Just seeing what it would do.

00:17:06.000 Oh, let's see what it'll do to the ozone layer. 0.98

00:17:08.000 Let's see what it'll... You know, hey, I don't want them to use DU. 0.94

00:17:12.000 I don't want them burning dirty coal.

00:17:15.000 I don't like that, man.

00:17:16.000 I don't want my kids breathing mercury.

00:17:20.000 And I'm mad about it.

00:17:22.000 I'm real mad about it.

00:17:22.000 Mercury is mooey bad.

00:17:25.000 I don't like the fact that we've all been conditioned and adopted the use of these cheap plastics which are full of dioxins and other poisons and turn our boys into girls and our girls into little hyper females until their breasts literally rot off of them when they're 30 years old because of all the hormones.

00:17:41.000 Oh yeah, directly, completely linked in hundreds of studies to those massive levels of estrogen in the women which then break down into other hormone combinations Your boys are running around like girls. 1.00

00:17:54.000 The hormone then activates, the brains are the same basically, so it activates those areas in the brain. 0.99

00:18:00.000 So your boy's a little girl, and your little girl turns into a whore, and her breasts rot off when she's 30 years old. 0.99

00:18:10.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, I've had enough of that! 1.00

00:18:14.000 You better absolutely believe it!

00:18:16.000 I'm concerned about the environment big time!

00:18:20.000 And instead everybody's running around having rock concerts and having a great time when they're engaged in cross-species genetic engineering and a thousand other nightmares, folks, that are serious threats to the planet's future. 0.70

00:18:33.000 We actually do have the power to really screw this planet up.

00:18:36.000 It was born out of high-powered solar flares and ionizing radiation and gamma rays and all forms of spectrum, you name it, and in volcanic, tectonic, colossal, festus-type activities.

00:18:58.000 But at the same time, There are things being developed and being used that can really hurt humanity and really screw up the species that are on this globe, the millions of species running and skittering about, including us.

00:19:12.000 And I know that if they're affected, I'm affected.

00:19:14.000 There isn't any separation here.

00:19:16.000 So that's why environmentalism is so powerful and the idea of conservation, because it does make sense and it's legitimate.

00:19:23.000 And they've taken all of these legitimate, well-founded ideas and basic instincts and they have turned it into a fraud.

00:19:31.000 To the point of, we've got to explain to people that carbon dioxide is a prime driver.

00:19:38.000 Absolute prime driver.

00:19:40.000 Of the four gases, it is penultimate.

00:19:45.000 Penultimate.

00:19:47.000 Will the elite win?

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00:24:40.000 Take a long holiday, Dave. 0.99

00:24:45.000 Let your children play. 0.97

00:24:49.000 If you give this man a ride, sweet mammal, he will die. 1.00

00:24:56.000 Killer on the road. 1.00

00:24:59.000 His brain is squirming like a toad. . 1.00

00:25:04.000 Welcome back my friends.

00:25:14.000 Dick Cheney's former boss, Ted Kennedy, promised

00:25:21.000 to reintroduce the bill and said we'll be back they've been back for what six seven years see bush has been in office seven years yeah now and uh he introduced it within weeks i mean within uh february 2001 he had fox up here and called for open borders and total amnesty and then when he got a lot of heat said okay it's not amnesty In his first State of the Union and his second.

00:25:48.000 And each bill, you could read it.

00:25:50.000 And then the last one was even worse!

00:25:52.000 Oh, you don't like a total amnesty?

00:25:54.000 How about total welfare, total housing loans, total red carpet, more than what citizens would ever get, just absolute incentives, five years, no federal taxes, retroactive, you don't have to pay, convicted felons, you can stay, aggravated felons.

00:26:10.000 I mean, it even said it!

00:26:13.000 You couldn't make stuff up this crazy!

00:26:17.000 Remember, for the first month when they were trying to pass it, it was secret?

00:26:20.000 Oh, it's a secret bill!

00:26:23.000 But trust us, it really cracks down on the illegals! 0.73

00:26:27.000 I mean, the government is so corrupt, ladies and gentlemen! 0.99

00:26:31.000 It's so corrupt! 0.98

00:26:32.000 The lies are so out of control! 0.66

00:26:35.000 They said, oh, it's not amnesty, it gets real tough, but you can't see it!

00:26:41.000 I mean, I laugh because it's insane!

00:26:43.000 It's just so over the top!

00:26:47.000 I mean, the level!

00:26:48.000 I'm speechless!

00:26:50.000 And then we finally got the bill.

00:26:53.000 And they're back with it again.

00:26:56.000 This time they're promising to make it tough. 0.99

00:27:01.000 They may announce in the next one that all citizens will be killed and illegals will be made kings or something. 0.98

00:27:06.000 I'm being sarcastic, but I mean, how could it get even worse? 0.98

00:27:10.000 And I'm sure it will.

00:27:11.000 Every version has gotten worse.

00:27:13.000 Their attitude is, well, we'll just make it worse.

00:27:17.000 And I think that's so that during debate and things, when the family comes out, they can then take a few things out and get what they originally wanted.

00:27:23.000 This is JBS up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:27:26.000 New immigration bill in the works.

00:27:28.000 You can find out about Ron Paul's skeleton up on PrisonPlanet.com too.

00:27:32.000 I'm being sarcastic, but that's what Fox News is saying.

00:27:36.000 A new immigration bill in the works.

00:27:39.000 Senator Arlen Specter, Republican Pennsylvania, has announced that he is ready to unveil an immigration bill designed to replace the now doomed Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act.

00:27:51.000 Follow this link to the original source.

00:27:53.000 Effort to revive immigration reform.

00:27:57.000 And then it goes to the mainstream news article about that.

00:27:59.000 Senator Arlen Specter must have listened to, as a child, the old adage, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

00:28:08.000 And I agree with that adage, but try different approaches, I would add, as a caveat or proviso, addendum.

00:28:18.000 At last, so it would seem, as the Senator has announced his intention to unveil a new piece of legislation that would replace the Immigration Reform Act of 1639, that failed to pass the Senate in June.

00:28:33.000 By the way, the headline today is, Spy Chief Uses Reforms to Spy.

00:28:37.000 You know, again, they call bad things reforms, but that word has been changed in our psychological lexicon to a point where people go along with it.

00:28:45.000 Until Specter's bill is introduced in the Senate, there is little way of knowing how similar it may be to Senator Ted Kennedy's immigration package that would have, among other things, placed millions of illegal immigrants on a path toward citizenship.

00:28:57.000 What do you mean?

00:28:58.000 They were legalized for 12 years immediately.

00:29:01.000 Never had to visit again, never had to, you're just given cards and can be put on Social Security and Welfare.

00:29:06.000 One visit.

00:29:07.000 Boom! 0.99

00:29:07.000 One visit. 0.99

00:29:08.000 Bam! 0.98

00:29:10.000 Among other things, placed millions of illegal immigrants on a path toward citizenship, implemented an enhanced guest worker program, this is the mainstream news, and increased the number of annual H-1B visa applicants.

00:29:26.000 We'll be right back, and we've got Dr. Paul Greg Roberts coming up.

00:29:31.000 And then we've got Tex Mars in the second hour, Mike Rivero in the third.

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00:34:13.000 He's a very busy man.

00:34:19.000 I always appreciate him coming on the show with us.

00:34:21.000 Now every few weeks, once a month, so much is happening.

00:34:25.000 He just basically does it all for free.

00:34:26.000 I always say, haven't you written a book?

00:34:28.000 Can't you?

00:34:29.000 I want to support what you're doing.

00:34:30.000 No, no, no, no.

00:34:33.000 He just puts it out there.

00:34:35.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is an economist, a National Syndicate of Columnists for Creator Syndicate.

00:34:39.000 He serves as an Assistant Secretary of Treasury in the Reagan Administration, earning fame as the father of Reaganomics.

00:34:45.000 He is a former editor and a columnist for the Wall Street Journal and Businessweek and Scripps Howard News Service.

00:34:51.000 He is a graduate of Georgia Institute of Technology and he holds a Ph.D.

00:34:55.000 from the University of Virginia and he was a postgraduate at the University of California, Berkeley and Oxford University where he was a member of the Merton College.

00:35:04.000 And it just goes on and on, ladies and gentlemen, of all the things he's done.

00:35:08.000 And we always really enjoy having him on.

00:35:10.000 Just type Paul Craig Roberts or Dr. Paul Craig Roberts into Google and literally, I don't know, hundreds and hundreds of articles he's written just in the last year or a couple years.

00:35:19.000 And he's saying this is time to make it or break it.

00:35:23.000 They're clearly gearing up for martial law.

00:35:26.000 And there's so much happening in martial law that I can never keep track of it all.

00:35:31.000 And he also was talking about the economy and the inflation tax and the decision that's been made to destroy the dollar and what we're facing inflation-wise and in the economy.

00:35:40.000 And he is a top economist, so we're honored to have him.

00:35:43.000 And a lot of people said, well, Reaganomics didn't work.

00:35:44.000 Well, it wasn't implemented like he said it should be.

00:35:46.000 So that you can't, you know, he's actually a, you know, the Von Mises and many other top economists, you know, really tipped their hats a lot of his ideas.

00:35:55.000 The point is that he is a true paleoconservative, and we appreciate him coming on, but I brought up the point that Deacon Seaney last week, and then two other congressmen, and now another, on the Homeland Security Board, In Congress, Homeland Security Committee said we'd like to see in the House the continuity of government PDD 51.

00:36:18.000 I mean 51's there saying for any emergency, economic, anywhere in the world doesn't matter.

00:36:22.000 Bush is above the Congress now and grants himself Caesar-like powers.

00:36:26.000 I mean it says it.

00:36:27.000 PDD 51.

00:36:28.000 But now he's told the committee you're not allowed to see this.

00:36:32.000 You're not allowed to even look at this.

00:36:35.000 And I just sprung this on Dr. Roberts, and he brings up a lot I'm not aware of.

00:36:39.000 He wasn't aware of this yet.

00:36:40.000 I know he's Googling it right now, but Dr. Roberts, what do you think of this new development?

00:36:45.000 Well, Alex, like I told you, I don't know anything about it.

00:36:49.000 I'm not up on it.

00:36:51.000 Let me first correct you on two things.

00:36:54.000 One, I have never, ever acknowledged that Reaganomics didn't work.

00:37:00.000 It worked perfectly.

00:37:01.000 It did exactly what we said it would do.

00:37:05.000 It got rid of stagflation.

00:37:08.000 We no longer had to accept rising, ever higher rates of inflation in order Well, it wouldn't really.

00:37:19.000 Well, let me be clear.

00:37:21.000 We got rid of all.

00:37:22.000 It worked perfectly.

00:37:23.000 The other thing I want to...

00:37:24.000 But hold on.

00:37:24.000 Let me be clear about what I said.

00:37:25.000 I'm saying what later happened, well, by it not being implemented, you said, though, that there shouldn't be massive spending accompanying it.

00:37:35.000 Now, is that not accurate?

00:37:36.000 Well, it wouldn't really.

00:37:40.000 Our program would have worked regardless of the spending because we changed the policy mix that was causing stagflation. 0.98

00:37:54.000 Alex, let me finish, dammit. 0.90

00:37:58.000 The spending was causing deficits, but deficits were not the cause of the stagflation. 0.97

00:38:05.000 So, I agree with you that the government prefers to spend and that there's never been as much Progress in controlling the deficits as the success we had in getting rid of stagflation.

00:38:20.000 You've not heard of that since we cured it.

00:38:23.000 You've not heard of worsening trade-offs between employment and inflation.

00:38:29.000 So it worked.

00:38:31.000 It did exactly.

00:38:33.000 I agree with you.

00:38:34.000 There's a tremendous amount of disinformation about Reaganomics because Democrats were fighting it.

00:38:43.000 The left wing was fighting it.

00:38:45.000 All kind of people who couldn't be bothered to take the time to understand it was fighting it.

00:38:52.000 But nevertheless, it did work.

00:38:55.000 And you have to keep in mind that Reagan, how many presidents back was that?

00:39:00.000 George Bush, George W. Bush, two terms.

00:39:03.000 Clinton, two terms.

00:39:05.000 George Herbert Walker Bush, five terms back.

00:39:13.000 You know, there's nothing that they could do today that they can blame on Reaganomics.

00:39:19.000 We haven't controlled the policy since.

00:39:22.000 Well, I'm sorry for repeatedly interrupting you, and I'm actually proud of myself for getting you to blow up on me on air, but I wanted to make sure that the question or my statement was clear, because I mean, I agree with your policies from my layman's view, and I'm saying that it looked like later, though, that they actually got off of that and changed it, and then it was misrepresented.

00:39:43.000 That's what I meant.

00:39:45.000 Well, there are all kinds of people who I certainly agree with you on that.

00:39:52.000 The other thing I wanted to correct you on, and I'm not a bully trying to beat you up, is this stuff about martial law.

00:40:05.000 Actually, it seems to me that if they go along the road that they're indicating, it's quite different and worse than martial law.

00:40:17.000 Would be something under the existing, under the older system, prior to all these new presidential directives, and martial law would have been something subject to constitutional checks, congressional checks, court checks, and would be less draconian than what could happen under the new presidential

00:40:47.000 Uh, directives.

00:40:48.000 For example, under the old National Emergency Act, which appears to be superseded by some of the new presidential directives, if the President declared a national emergency and Congress thought that the situation didn't justify it, they could overturn it.

00:41:12.000 But under the new executive orders or presidential directives, whichever it is.

00:41:17.000 I can't remember which of the two it is.

00:41:20.000 And apparently there's no role whatsoever.

00:41:24.000 You know, that's incredible.

00:41:25.000 That's incredible because I always...

00:41:29.000 People accuse me of overestimating and overstating, but actually in hindsight, when I analyze old shows or old articles, it's always, always, almost always worse than what I said.

00:41:39.000 And I'm looking at this in the old model of a martial law, but you're right.

00:41:43.000 You're right!

00:41:44.000 This is even worse!

00:41:45.000 This is God-Emperor, or what would you say is absolute dictatorship?

00:41:50.000 What would you call it?

00:41:52.000 Well, the closest thing to it that we know of, I guess, is dictatorship.

00:41:59.000 I suppose what you'd call it is unaccountability.

00:42:04.000 There's no way under the new system to hold the President accountable or to challenge his decisions.

00:42:19.000 So in that sense, we've never experienced anything like these new directives or orders And clearly, they're not constitutional.

00:42:30.000 There's nothing in the Constitution that says the President can, you know, deep-six the Constitution based on his own statement.

00:42:41.000 So, it may be it's such a draconian move that it just couldn't happen, that people just wouldn't accept it and he might declare it and nobody may pay Any attention.

00:42:57.000 He would have to have, whoever used this, would have to have very definite and well-organized supporters to intimidate everyone else, including sections of the military, and silence the courts.

00:43:21.000 And I just don't think The neoconservatives are that big of a movement.

00:43:29.000 Barring a hydrogen weapon or something going off?

00:43:35.000 Well, that would of course be a good excuse for them to declare this type of thing.

00:43:46.000 Well, from your study, being inside government and outside as a journalist, looking at it as an editor, they're not making these declarative statements.

00:43:56.000 Here's how it rolls downhill.

00:43:58.000 They had former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Myers in front of the committee a few days ago, or late last week, talking about the cover-up of the Pat Tillman killing.

00:44:06.000 and they were saying, well, you knew it was a lie, but you gave him the Silver Star.

00:44:10.000 You knew it was a lie, and you knew it was friendly fire, and frankly worse, but you covered it up.

00:44:15.000 Why did you do that?

00:44:17.000 And Meyer said, well, there's no law barring me.

00:44:19.000 There's a whole bunch of laws.

00:44:20.000 I mean, a whole bunch of military code laws.

00:44:23.000 But now they're just saying we can do whatever we want.

00:44:25.000 I mean, this is getting crazier and crazier.

00:44:27.000 Well, you won't get any opposition from me on that statement.

00:44:33.000 So why are they still?

00:44:35.000 Why are they?

00:44:35.000 It's not crazy and crazy.

00:44:36.000 It's more dangerous and more dangerous.

00:44:38.000 Now, of course, when Meyers says something like that, I mean, he doesn't know, but what is he going to say when they ask him a question he doesn't have an answer?

00:44:45.000 He has to say something that gets him off the spot.

00:44:48.000 So it doesn't mean, like you said, it doesn't mean that he actually has that right or it doesn't mean he even knows.

00:45:00.000 The reason he did it, of course, was it was already fixed, and the only way he could do anything about it would have been to have gone public at the time, in which case he would have had to resign, or he would have caused a mess, and probably for no real good, because he wouldn't very long have access to the airwaves, but the President and Cheney would.

00:45:28.000 And so they would control the explanation and somebody would say, oh, well, he had heat stroke or, you know, he was suffering a heart attack or you don't know what they'd tell you.

00:45:38.000 So he knows that his voice, even as a top general, isn't that big.

00:45:47.000 It doesn't carry that far.

00:45:48.000 It doesn't have access.

00:45:49.000 It's not... Well, let me ask you this question before we get into economics.

00:45:52.000 Talking to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts here today.

00:45:54.000 Always honored to have him with us.

00:45:56.000 Also syndicated columnist.

00:45:59.000 I mean, I agree with you, this is a big step for the military, the police, everybody to go along with, but the general public still doesn't know their head from a hole in the ground, or even the basic building blocks of our system of government or a society, and I don't think they're gearing up for all of this for nothing.

00:46:15.000 So, I mean, how would this play out?

00:46:18.000 I mean, for those in higher up positions who aren't ignorant of the system, who do see all this happening, I mean, do you talk to any of them anymore?

00:46:25.000 Or, I mean, what do you think they're saying?

00:46:27.000 What do you think the discussions are right now?

00:46:31.000 Well, you know, a lot of people have left the government, both professionals from the intelligence agencies, officers from the military, and they're quite concerned by these developments.

00:46:50.000 They see the destruction of the professional cadres and their replacement with brown shirts or political hacks or That ignorant people bet on maximizing the power of the regime.

00:47:08.000 So they're quite concerned.

00:47:09.000 And I agree with you that there's really no reason for these extraordinary presidential directives and executive orders to be issued if they did not intend to use them.

00:47:26.000 And so, I mean, we already had a National Emergency Act.

00:47:32.000 That lets us meet any possible contingency, but still has checks and balances.

00:47:39.000 And what we're seeing is the removal of all the checks and balances everywhere in the system.

00:47:45.000 Contingency, catastrophe, or not.

00:47:50.000 And people who are hell-bent on removing the checks and balances are obviously hell-bent on getting absolute power.

00:48:02.000 And so I think a lot of people have noticed that and are concerned about it.

00:48:07.000 And you can say, well, why don't we hear their voices?

00:48:09.000 And you know that as well as I do.

00:48:11.000 The media is concentrated.

00:48:14.000 It's owned by a few corporations.

00:48:17.000 They can't go against the government.

00:48:19.000 Why have the big global corporations decided to let the neocons do this?

00:48:23.000 I mean, they're clearly letting them do it.

00:48:26.000 Well, they may not know.

00:48:27.000 Are you talking about the media?

00:48:29.000 The media, yes.

00:48:32.000 If you're a big, the big media companies today are so highly concentrated, what is their value?

00:48:38.000 It's their broadcast licenses.

00:48:40.000 And those are given to them, free, by the federal government.

00:48:43.000 So, any of these huge firms that start going on about the government, their broadcast licenses are injected.

00:48:55.000 The entire value of the firm.

00:48:57.000 Also, they will find tremendous pressure put on them From the Republican Party, the White House, from AIPAC, the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee, to have people withdraw sponsorship and advertisements, and they would find their advertising revenues collapsing.

00:49:17.000 So, they don't want to commit suicide, financial suicide.

00:49:23.000 You could say if all five of them could get together and decide that they would all expose it at the same time, they could break the system.

00:49:32.000 But that hadn't happened.

00:49:33.000 They may not perceive the threat.

00:49:35.000 Alright, let me get in one more question and then we're going to come back in a final segment and talk about what's happening in the economy briefly with you and I meant to get you on about that but this Marshall, well as you said not Marshall Law, this dictatorship development is so serious.

00:49:47.000 Congress though, I mean obviously they're corrupt and ball off of the same people, but to have the President just say, you're not involved in continuity of government anymore, I give myself powers, I mean that's on its face Caesar Augustus type, crossing the Rubicon behavior.

00:50:02.000 I mean I would expect, and then Congress did ask to see it and Bush says no.

00:50:05.000 I mean that is just, what do you think they're really talking about on Capitol Hill right now?

00:50:12.000 I don't know, the Congress has been amazingly compliant with The overreaching by the President and I can offer two explanations for that.

00:50:24.000 I don't know if they're correct.

00:50:26.000 One is they expect him to be gone shortly and that his departure is better than a big fight.

00:50:34.000 This is at hand.

00:50:36.000 And the other is that everyone is still intimidated by 9-11.

00:50:40.000 We were attacked.

00:50:41.000 We were attacked.

00:50:42.000 Bush has got the war on terror.

00:50:44.000 We have to support the war on terror.

00:50:46.000 Those two things may be what's in their head.

00:50:49.000 I think they're making a mistake on both counts.

00:50:52.000 Stay there.

00:50:53.000 We've got to break.

00:50:53.000 Stay there.

00:50:54.000 Dr. Paul Craig Robertson, the kid of columnists, is our guest.

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00:54:12.000 And these are the times that try men's souls.

00:54:15.000 You were saying, and we're going to take you five minutes to the next hour so you can finish up on the economy.

00:54:21.000 But I want you to be able to finish that thought just briefly, though, because of time constraints, Dr. Roberts, about you believe it's a mistake that Congress is trying to just coast out.

00:54:31.000 I mean, I think it's a little part of a larger operation.

00:54:33.000 I think Hillary's going to get all these new powers or whoever else gets in there, some nightmare Democrat, and then we're going to really just continue this dissent, but why do you think it's a mistake?

00:54:47.000 I think, well, part of the reason could be, if you're right, that somebody will get the powers, whether Bush uses them or not, eventually somebody will use them.

00:54:57.000 And so that's enough to make a mistake.

00:54:59.000 But the reason I think it's a more immediate mistake is, it's not clear to me that the Democrats' assumption that Bush is going to step down and let them have an election, I don't, I wouldn't

00:55:16.000 I would say that that's a hundred percent probability because all he has to do is have a national emergency or catastrophic emergency and he can suspend the election and there are many ways he can have that and of course Cheney and the neocons are determined to attack Iran and the process of attacking Iran depending on Iran's response could very easily produce a national emergency

00:55:45.000 So we could very easily find that there's not an election.

00:55:49.000 And if you and others are right, I mean there's no debating that Apex, one of the top three lobbies and that they're also basically clandestine intelligence gathering up and that they've infiltrated, why wouldn't Israel try to take over the U.S. and run it through a dictatorship?

00:56:05.000 I mean, I think in the final equation, we have to look at the evidence.

00:56:10.000 And would you agree with the statement that Israel could actually become dictators of the U.S. through Bush?

00:56:17.000 Oh, you know, it was years ago that Admiral Tom Morrow, Chief of Naval Operations and the Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, Yes.

00:56:28.000 Who tried to get the truth out about the USS Liberty being attacked by the Israelis? 0.99

00:56:34.000 It was years and years ago that Tom Morrow told the press that no American President can stand up to Israel!

00:56:43.000 And so, I don't know what more they need to do to take us over.

00:56:49.000 They can elect whoever they want and defeat whoever they want.

00:56:53.000 So, I'm not particularly, I wouldn't necessarily characterize it as a dictatorship that they would exercise through Bush as some form of a, you know, formal conspiracy or anything like that, but I think their influences, particularly on our foreign policy, and certainly in the Middle East, is overwhelming.

00:57:11.000 They are the major player.

00:57:14.000 Well, my point is the neocons are leading this charge for the dictatorship, so 2 plus 2 equals 4.

00:57:21.000 Well, the neocons, they want to shut up critics because they have this hegemonic goal that commits us to a lot of war.

00:57:31.000 But they can't put that genie back in the bottle.

00:57:33.000 I mean, the hatred of the New World Order and the neocons is a rising tide.

00:57:38.000 Yeah, but you know, people who have delusions don't necessarily think that there's any check to their power.

00:57:46.000 So you think they really believe that Karl Rove line about they control reality?

00:57:53.000 They could certainly believe it.

00:57:55.000 I mean, Hitler believed it. 0.93

00:57:57.000 He marched off into Russia.

00:57:59.000 Even a great military strategist like Napoleon, probably the greatest the world's ever seen, he marched off into Russia. 0.92

00:58:09.000 If a guy like that can get full of delusions, certainly these two-bit punk neocons who are basically ignorant people of very poor education, they could very easily You have these kinds of delusions, yeah. 0.90

00:58:23.000 Two-bit punk neocons. 0.98

00:58:25.000 I love it.

00:58:25.000 Here's something else.

00:58:27.000 60-second break.

00:58:28.000 Seventy if you want to be technical.

00:58:29.000 We'll come back.

00:58:30.000 You'll have five minutes and we'll let you go.

00:58:31.000 Just hit it hard.

00:58:33.000 I'm going to shut the hell up and let you tell us about where you see the economy going and what's happening with inflation.

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 All right, former Air Force officer, University of Texas professor, best-selling author.

00:59:20.000 Tex Meyer's coming up in the next hour.

00:59:21.000 We'll also have open phones for him.

00:59:24.000 Then we got Michael Rivera, whatreallyhappened.com joining us in the third hour.

00:59:27.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, nationally syndicated columnist for Creator Syndicate.

00:59:32.000 and also a former editor of the Wall Street Journal, Father of Reganomics.

00:59:35.000 We've got about four minutes left, sir.

00:59:37.000 Appreciate you coming on today.

00:59:38.000 We had you on about the whole dictatorship development and continuity of government and the rest of it.

00:59:42.000 Now in the last four minutes we've got, get into what's really happening with the economy and one of those last editorials you wrote about inflation.

00:59:48.000 Alex, you need to get better connected with your programmers because they told me the reason you wore me on the show today was to talk about my last column on the economy, the return of the robber barons.

01:00:01.000 People can find that on Counterpunch or vdare.com.

01:00:05.000 Thank you.

01:00:06.000 I'll skip over most of that and just point out that according to the latest government statistics on employment in the United States, one-fourth of all the jobs created over the past year, that is from June of 06 through June of 07, one-fourth of these jobs consist of waitresses and bartenders.

01:00:30.000 So here we are, allegedly a superpower with a high-tech economy, and yet our graduates from our colleges and universities have to find employment as waitresses and bartenders.

01:00:44.000 Where is the rest of the employment?

01:00:46.000 Of the total 1.6 million net private sector jobs created over the past year, June through June, leisure and hospitality accounted for 30%.

01:01:01.000 Education and health services accounted for 35%.

01:01:07.000 Of that 35%, 100,000 jobs are in educational services and 456,000 are in health care and social assistance.

01:01:16.000 Principally, ambulatory health care services and hospital support staff.

01:01:23.000 That is, this is all jobs that do not require any university or college education.

01:01:29.000 So basically no high tech.

01:01:31.000 No high tech.

01:01:32.000 And finance and insurance added 93,000 jobs, of which a quarter went real estate and half went insurance.

01:01:41.000 Transportation and warehousing had 65,000, and wholesale and retail.

01:01:46.000 Trade added 185,000.

01:01:49.000 So you can see what it is.

01:01:52.000 So the entire year, the U.S.

01:01:55.000 economy created 51,000 jobs in architectural and engineering services.

01:02:03.000 Wow!

01:02:03.000 I've got to have you back on just on this subject.

01:02:05.000 Man, that is incredible!

01:02:08.000 It's been like this in the entire 21st century.

01:02:12.000 This is the 7th year of this.

01:02:19.000 To get into the inflation, as you probably know, the inflation measures that are used is called core inflation.

01:02:26.000 The reason they like core inflation is it leaves out food and energy.

01:02:30.000 So two of the biggest components in people's budgets aren't even measured in core inflation.

01:02:38.000 Even in the wider measure, which you see less and less, the Consumer Price Index, how do they measure housing?

01:02:45.000 They don't put housing prices.

01:02:47.000 They use, as a proxy for housing prices, they use the rental price of housing.

01:02:54.000 Well, obviously, rental prices are less than mortgages.

01:02:58.000 Otherwise, people would buy, right?

01:03:02.000 So, the rental price of housing is another way they keep the measure down.

01:03:07.000 Another way they do it is, if the price of beef goes up, they assume people switch to something lower priced, like chicken.

01:03:14.000 Bottom line, where is inflation?

01:03:16.000 Well, it's much higher than it's reported.

01:03:20.000 Currently, in the second quarter, the CPI was running at 5.2%, but the rate that they use all the time, that you hear about, is core inflation.

01:03:32.000 That's only 2.3%.

01:03:34.000 So you can see, even with all their phony manipulation of the consumer price index, it's still 3 points, 3 percentage points higher.

01:03:46.000 We're out of time, Doc.

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01:07:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:14.000 I'm going to try to twist Tech's arm and stay in a little bit of the next hour and we'll get Michael Rivera on with his monthly visit with us.

01:07:21.000 We ran out of time getting into dictatorship and then what's happening with the economy with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of economics, and he said even though he's out of town next week, he would like to come back on because he knows how large the audience is and actually talk about the economy.

01:07:34.000 That's what he wants to get into.

01:07:35.000 He says we talk about martial law every time he's on the show and he thinks our audience knows about that.

01:07:41.000 So we will get into what's happening with the inflation indexes and the plunging dollar with a top economist.

01:07:47.000 He'll be on with us sometime next week.

01:07:49.000 Tex Meyers, Air Force officer.

01:07:52.000 And of course, also best-selling author on multi-fronts, both educational and educational books, and then of course books purely for mainline education, textbooks, and then of course on the New World Order and criminal acts in government.

01:08:08.000 A great political mind and a good personal friend of mine.

01:08:11.000 He married myself and my wife and his lovely, wonderful wife, Wanda.

01:08:15.000 They're just great people.

01:08:16.000 And he's based right here in Austin, Texas.

01:08:19.000 And I was on his show yesterday, the taping of it.

01:08:21.000 I guess that's airing this weekend or Next weekend on the weekend.

01:08:25.000 And we're just always honored to have Tex on with us.

01:08:27.000 Tex, there's so much happening.

01:08:29.000 I kind of like the theme of your show yesterday about lying government, lying New World Order.

01:08:35.000 And we could get into that, just the whole culture of delusion and illusion.

01:08:39.000 Or we could get into some of the new books.

01:08:41.000 You just published one about the whole Illuminati slash Zionist connection.

01:08:46.000 I mean, there's just so much going on, so much happening out there.

01:08:49.000 What do you think is most important?

01:08:52.000 Well, you know, I think the issue of lying.

01:08:55.000 You know, some people out there might say, oh no, we're going to get a sermon.

01:08:59.000 But this is not about a sermon.

01:09:02.000 Although, you know, even Jesus himself said that he is the truth.

01:09:07.000 And it's very significant, though.

01:09:09.000 The whole Big Brother Police State system is based on a lie, and really a network of lies.

01:09:19.000 That it's like a mosaic that they're putting together.

01:09:23.000 And they come so fast and furiously, you know, it's almost like a NASCAR race.

01:09:28.000 You can't keep track of all the drivers of the cars.

01:09:32.000 But you know one thing, they expect to be at that finish line and bring in their new world order.

01:09:38.000 So we're going to have to confound them.

01:09:40.000 We're going to cause a few crack-ups.

01:09:42.000 And I mean that in a good way because these are very evil Vehicles, you know, they're not like our friends Jeff Gordon and the others in the NASCAR race.

01:09:52.000 So we really need to look at this.

01:09:56.000 Alex, you've done so much on your Terror Storm.

01:09:58.000 It's an important video.

01:09:59.000 We shouldn't forget that.

01:10:00.000 I know you've got another video coming out soon, but this one, Terror Storm, it really lays out the lies.

01:10:07.000 Now, you see, we have to remember something.

01:10:11.000 You know, even the Bible talks about having a sure foundation.

01:10:15.000 Well, Satan also has built a foundation.

01:10:19.000 Everything that Bush did, everything that Clinton did before him, they built it on a foundation.

01:10:27.000 They cooked the cake, so to speak.

01:10:30.000 They did the cooking.

01:10:31.000 They put in all the ingredients.

01:10:33.000 And the icing will be their total police state control.

01:10:37.000 So we've got to mess up that cake.

01:10:39.000 We've got to get in there and And take out some of those ingredients and say, hey, wait just a minute.

01:10:44.000 There's poison in this cake.

01:10:46.000 This isn't sugar and flour and such.

01:10:49.000 These are poisons.

01:10:50.000 And by the way, Tex, would you say that they've got the, well, what's that called, where you squeeze it and it's got the end on it?

01:10:56.000 You put the icing on?

01:10:57.000 You know, they've got that pastry tool out right now applying the icing.

01:11:04.000 Yeah, they really do.

01:11:05.000 And, you know, I wrote a book some years ago called Circle of Intrigue.

01:11:11.000 The Hidden Inner Circle of the Global Illuminati Conspiracy Circle of Intrigue.

01:11:15.000 And I had a whole chapter in there talking about the use of pageantry and illusion.

01:11:21.000 And both of those go together.

01:11:24.000 You remember from the time we had the shock and awe?

01:11:29.000 And we had Bush going up to the ground zero.

01:11:34.000 And holding on to the shoulder of a fireman.

01:11:36.000 Then he rode onto the aircraft carrier and declared mission accomplished.

01:11:44.000 How many hundreds and hundreds of our men and women are dead since the mission was accomplished?

01:11:49.000 And he just went to the collapsed bridge just to stand there and be our hero.

01:11:54.000 Exactly.

01:11:55.000 They do all these things.

01:11:56.000 Everything that Jessica Lynch, the Uh, Corporal Pillman.

01:12:01.000 Everything is based on pageantry, but then you have to mix in the illusion, which means it's all based on a lie.

01:12:10.000 You know, the Hindus call it Maya, or illusion, and they believe the whole world is basically like a stage. 0.92

01:12:18.000 Everything is scripted.

01:12:20.000 Well, you know, I'm not a Hindu, but I'm beginning to see The amazing thing that you have revealed in Terror Storm, that it is pageantry and illusion.

01:12:31.000 Now, unfortunately, you know, we're inside this great grand theater of illusion.

01:12:38.000 But when the show's over, when the third act is finished, we're all going to be in a concentration camp if these people have their way.

01:12:46.000 We're not going to walk out and get in your taxi or certainly your limo or whatever car you have.

01:12:53.000 Uh, you're not going to be able to get in and go and walk away and say, what a nice movie.

01:12:58.000 I'm telling you, they're going to wrap you up in the movie.

01:13:00.000 It's sort of like the story of the guy that was bemused by the cannibals eating up the pot. 0.99

01:13:06.000 And he said, wants to eat.

01:13:08.000 And they said, you!

01:13:09.000 You know?

01:13:11.000 So this is where we're at now.

01:13:13.000 Illusion leads to death, to bloodshed.

01:13:16.000 Well that's what Hitler and Stalin to a certain extent, but Hitler and Goebbels, the nighttime rallies, all the pageantry, constant parades, huge banners everywhere. 0.75

01:13:27.000 But look what it led to, 20 million plus dead Germans alone.

01:13:31.000 That's right.

01:13:32.000 You know, I'm working on a book now, Alex, just give your people a little hint.

01:13:36.000 It's called Monumental Architecture.

01:13:39.000 Even architecture, even buildings are designed as occult, satanic symbols.

01:13:44.000 And they are part of this pageantry and illusion cycle.

01:13:49.000 And again, we go down to the lion.

01:13:52.000 Today, maybe we can talk about some things, even Pearl Harbor, because I have some astonishing new information.

01:13:59.000 But I don't think it's been revealed on any national radio program.

01:14:03.000 I'd like to reveal on your program today for the first time.

01:14:06.000 Absolutely, but instead of graciously plugging Terror Storm, Codex Magica, you know, we've got it at Infowars.com.

01:14:14.000 It is the preeminent book.

01:14:16.000 It's the size of basically the Dallas phone book of documents, photos, how they're doing this symbolism, how they believe that they energize themselves, how they believe it creates power.

01:14:27.000 And then, of course, the Winnipeg Press just put out the Hermetic Code.

01:14:33.000 And this guy now has joined them.

01:14:36.000 He's a scholar.

01:14:37.000 He has like three degrees in it.

01:14:40.000 And about how the Winnipeg building is a 666 Sun God Temple with an image of a baby being sacrificed right in there.

01:14:47.000 So I'm very excited, Tex, to hear that you're getting into the... I know you've been into it forever, covering the architecture of all of it.

01:14:54.000 But before we go any further, you've also got a free newsletter.

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01:15:03.000 A very powerful, always cutting-edge type material.

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01:15:12.000 Alex, of course, you know, they might want to get a preview of the book.

01:15:16.000 I appreciate your kindness in mentioning it.

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01:16:04.000 Okay it's toll free 1-800-234-9673 9-6-7-3.

01:16:09.000 I hope people will wait until after the program because we've got so much exciting information.

01:16:17.000 For example, you just mentioned, we were just fixing to talk about World War II.

01:16:23.000 You know, that whole war, of course the Nazis were evil, no doubt about it. 0.97

01:16:28.000 And one of our allies, the Communists, were also evil. 0.53

01:16:31.000 We took sides. 0.79

01:16:32.000 Two scorpions in a bottle.

01:16:33.000 We said, okay, we're going to favor this scorpion.

01:16:36.000 And the Communists killed three times as many, but that was our little buddy.

01:16:39.000 Yeah, Joseph, you know, Uncle Joseph.

01:16:42.000 Uncle Joe to FDR.

01:16:44.000 But everything was based on illusion.

01:16:46.000 And in Codex Magicka, I have a picture of Sir Winston Churchill, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, our great ally.

01:16:53.000 in the garb of a druid witch.

01:16:56.000 He was a druid witch, and there he is, along with his other witchcraft members. 0.99

01:17:02.000 Franklin Roosevelt was a high-level Freemason.

01:17:06.000 He was already also into witchcraft because Freemasonry... 1.00

01:17:11.000 Well, I've seen in mainstream books, one time I was at my parents' house, I just picked up a big book on Winston and Churchill and just passing showed him in his Druid regalia.

01:17:19.000 But go ahead.

01:17:20.000 Yeah, Codex Magica has a picture like that, too, showing him.

01:17:24.000 Of course, FDR and his Masonic cohort, who was the Secretary of Agriculture, Mr. Henry Wallace, who later ran on the Socialist Workers' Party ticket for president. 0.93

01:17:36.000 But Wallace and he conspired together and brought forth the all-seeing eye and the pyramid on our $1 bill.

01:17:43.000 Here again, magic!

01:17:44.000 The new Novus Ordo Seclorum, the new world order, in the midst of chaos and suffering and 50 million people perishing in the flames of World War II, they present forth their goal, their objective, which is the Novus Ordo Seclorum, right on our major Currency note, the $1 bill.

01:18:02.000 This is how much they're into witchcraft and magic.

01:18:05.000 Now, Bush is too.

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01:18:08.000 So was Kerry, of course. 0.99

01:18:09.000 And Hillary, listen, this'll be, if she is elected, it will be the first lesbian witch ever elected president. 1.00

01:18:18.000 We've had first ladies who were lesbian witches. 1.00

01:18:21.000 We had Eleanor Roosevelt, who had a female lover in the White House. 0.67

01:18:25.000 And at Hyde Park, the Presidential Library in New York of Franklin Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt, they have now copies on display of her love letters to her lesbian live-in lover, Miss Hickok.

01:18:40.000 It's amazing. 0.99

01:18:40.000 Talking about how to kiss your lips and all kinds of junk like that. 0.99

01:18:43.000 Well, we'll stay there. 0.99

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01:23:20.000 This is a short segment so we're going to get into one of the big lies that we saw today and yesterday concerning this planet and what's going on.

01:23:29.000 Then we're going to get into the Pearl Harbor research that he's done in the next segment.

01:23:33.000 Text Mohammed Karzai.

01:23:35.000 This is the Unicol executive they installed.

01:23:38.000 Literally they've had a staged election.

01:23:39.000 That's well documented.

01:23:42.000 And, uh, but he mucked or bumped heads with Lord Bush yesterday.

01:23:47.000 That's right.

01:23:48.000 You know, both he and the puppet that we put in office there in Iraq have problems because the people of those countries see who the real oppressor is, and it's Imperial America, and it's Zionist-Brand Israel. 0.69

01:24:04.000 So Karzai has a little problem, but I think it's interesting today.

01:24:07.000 Talk about a lie.

01:24:09.000 Karzai was asked by the press What about Iran?

01:24:13.000 Because the propaganda coming out of the Bush administration and the Pentagon is that Iran is the one funding and doing all the dirty work inside of Afghanistan. 0.56

01:24:23.000 Of course, I was asked about this, and he says, no, no, no, no!

01:24:26.000 Iran is a big help to us!

01:24:29.000 They're cooperating against the Taliban.

01:24:32.000 You know, in other words, they're our friends!

01:24:33.000 They're our allies!

01:24:35.000 Ahmadinejad, who Bush portrays as some new Hitler, You know, as Karzai says, they're Afghanistan's friends.

01:24:44.000 Well, Bush tried to correct it right away and said, oh no, that's not true.

01:24:49.000 You know, Iran is a problem and, you know, they're destabilizing the Middle East. 1.00

01:24:55.000 Now, this is all part of, of course, the Bush strategy to try to convince the American people that our next big war should be fought against Iran. 0.72

01:25:04.000 So we're going to have another big explosion of bloodshed.

01:25:08.000 They've already sent this General Berger Who's a con man, evidently. 0.72

01:25:12.000 He's going to be the new conduit for lies.

01:25:14.000 You see, they can't trust the military brass on scene there in Iraq.

01:25:21.000 Because the military's instinct is to win.

01:25:23.000 Yeah, and you know, there's a number of military people who are not liars.

01:25:28.000 You know, I was in the Air Force for 20 years.

01:25:30.000 I retired as an officer.

01:25:31.000 There's a lot of guys that are patriotic there.

01:25:33.000 They just don't want to go along with these lies.

01:25:36.000 But what they do is they groom certain people, they give them stars, they promote them.

01:25:41.000 You know, they began back in the days of Alexander Haig, who was a desk jockey.

01:25:45.000 And they give people like Colin Powell and Alexander Haig, and now evidently there's General Berkner, and they become conduits for lies.

01:25:55.000 So, that's what they have now.

01:25:57.000 Well, that's just like they created the Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon to lie and create fake intelligence, because the Pentagon wouldn't do it.

01:26:03.000 That's right.

01:26:04.000 And, of course, they had neocons running that office, but they took in a couple of officers.

01:26:09.000 Colonel Franklin, who, of course, now was indicted and admitted he was guilty of spying for Zionist Israel, for AIPAC.

01:26:19.000 And now two of the officials of AIPAC are going to go on trial, too, for spying, sabotage, you might say, against America, our supposed ally.

01:26:28.000 But you're right, there's the Office of Special Plans, then the Office of Strategic Influence, Uh, and when they were found out, they just changed the name of these offices in the Pentagon.

01:26:38.000 Now, the Office of Strategic Influence publicly said it was planning news and paper news overseas, but it turned out billions in fake news was purchased here domestically.

01:26:47.000 That's right.

01:26:48.000 Newspapers, you know, they have these video VNRs, I think they're called.

01:26:52.000 News releases, video news releases.

01:26:54.000 It looks like, you know, you're watching like Channel 4 News or something in some city, but really it's all just fake.

01:27:00.000 They even have an attractive female anchor, an attractive male anchor, and they're chatting about how wonderful the Iraq War is and all the great things that are going on there.

01:27:10.000 These things have been released and hundreds of TV stations play these thinking that they're coming from some legitimate news source.

01:27:19.000 So this is an amazing thing.

01:27:20.000 Hitler and Stalin, you know, it's interesting.

01:27:26.000 The number one news source during the Communist era in Russia, Alex, was called Pravda.

01:27:32.000 That was their newspaper.

01:27:34.000 And Pravda, the Russian word, means truth.

01:27:38.000 Of course, it was a lie, but it was truth.

01:27:42.000 And I remember reading the publisher of USA Today, after Gorbachev ended supposedly the Iron Curtain, he went over to visit and he visited Provden.

01:27:51.000 They said they were telling the American newsmen, oh we're changed now, we're going to tell the truth here in Russia.

01:27:58.000 But he noticed that they had not taken down a huge sign in their major newsroom, and it overshadowed Everything they were doing at Pravda, which supposedly means truth, and it was a quote from Lenin, and basically what he said, and let me paraphrase it, he said, he said, words are more powerful than armaments, than tanks, and guns, and airplanes.

01:28:24.000 How can we allow people to say bad things about the government, being that words are so powerful?

01:28:30.000 Stay there, Tex.

01:28:31.000 We'll continue with this on the other side.

01:28:33.000 I've got one more little caveat about Iran.

01:28:35.000 I want to get your take on that.

01:28:36.000 We'll get into Pearl Harbor and a lot more.

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01:34:54.000 So don't forget that free newsletter.

01:34:56.000 It's not just free the first one you get, it's free when you sign up.

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01:35:05.000 It's a nice newsletter.

01:35:07.000 Tex is so nice that he helped me duplicate it and do it.

01:35:10.000 It was too expensive for me to do.

01:35:11.000 I mean, it's such nice paper, so big.

01:35:13.000 I tried it out, sent it out to like 10,000 people.

01:35:16.000 I think Tex sends it out to like, I forget, it's a lot more than I do.

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01:35:21.000 I mean, these things are, I mean, no expenses spared.

01:35:24.000 These are really nice newsletters and I hope you get it.

01:35:28.000 And Tex, go ahead and give folks that number out again to get a free newsletter.

01:35:31.000 Well thank you Alex.

01:35:33.000 It will be 1-800-234-9673.

01:35:37.000 1-800-234-9673.

01:35:37.000 And simply say I'd like the newsletter and we'll be glad to send that to you.

01:35:44.000 And again, we're not going to get your phone number and things like that.

01:35:47.000 We're not going to be calling you.

01:35:48.000 We're not going to send you, you know, anything about asking for money.

01:35:51.000 You don't have to worry about that at all.

01:35:53.000 Absolutely.

01:35:53.000 In fact, it's just a newsletter you put out and I guess we're able to pay for it.

01:35:57.000 It's got a few ads or for whatever the great videos and books you've got out at the time are.

01:36:02.000 Again, folks, every time, I mean, I get the newsletter and every time I sit down, it's great when I'm eating breakfast and, you know, read through it because I learn stuff all the time.

01:36:09.000 I learn a lot from Tex.

01:36:11.000 On several of my films, three or four of them, I've gone into his huge archive.

01:36:15.000 He's got several big rooms just filled to the ceiling with well-archived documents, news articles.

01:36:21.000 I have rated your archives.

01:36:23.000 Well, listen, you're always welcome to do that, because I've gotten a lot of information from watching your videos and talking with you over the years, Alex.

01:36:32.000 But, yeah, of course, my wife here complains that I'm junked up.

01:36:38.000 I can barely get out of my desk here.

01:36:39.000 The place is full of archives, as you mentioned, and boxes of books and magazine articles.

01:36:46.000 And, of course, now I have about 10,000, it appears like, Books and such are working on this new project I have.

01:36:53.000 How many books have you written total?

01:36:56.000 I think I've written 43 books.

01:36:59.000 Of course, many booklets and video documentaries and things like that, but actual books, I think 43.

01:37:04.000 I've contributed to a number of others.

01:37:06.000 This was over many years, of course.

01:37:08.000 I began by writing high technology books.

01:37:11.000 I wrote the first encyclopedia of personal home robots.

01:37:17.000 Believe it or not, it was a main selection of the computer and the electronic book clubs.

01:37:22.000 So, I wrote a lot.

01:37:23.000 I wrote the first book on careers with robots.

01:37:27.000 You also ended up being one of the few people ever to have your book on how to pass some different types of military tests, and then it was only chosen, I mean printed by two publishers, and I think you were the only person they ever chose your book for both publications, right?

01:37:43.000 Yes, everyone who goes in the military service has to take the ASVAB test, and so we have a book called Barron's How to Prepare for the Armed Forces Test that I authored But, you know, it's been now 20 years, and I know it was the work of God who put me in this ministry.

01:38:04.000 And my whole goal has been based on truth.

01:38:06.000 What is the truth?

01:38:08.000 And I have found that there's so many fictions, so much history.

01:38:13.000 You know, Napoleon basically said, history is a set of lies prearranged.

01:38:19.000 That was Napoleon.

01:38:20.000 Wow.

01:38:21.000 A set of lies that are prearranged.

01:38:25.000 Now, I don't like that.

01:38:26.000 I don't like to live amidst pre-arranged lies, where everywhere you turn, there's nothing but propaganda.

01:38:34.000 I was recently reading, you know, H.G.

01:38:36.000 Wells is quite a fascinating writer.

01:38:39.000 Remember the Invisible Man?

01:38:41.000 Top eugenicist.

01:38:43.000 Yeah, but that is true.

01:38:45.000 Well, he was an illuminist, of course.

01:38:48.000 A member of the conspiracy.

01:38:49.000 He wrote, at the same time he wrote The Invisible Man and The Time Machine that we might enjoy, he also wrote the open conspiracy blueprints for a world revolution.

01:38:59.000 So he was one of the conspirators.

01:39:01.000 Now here's the interesting thing.

01:39:02.000 They called you and me, Alex, conspiracy theorists.

01:39:06.000 But Wells really gave it away when he said, what this really is, is a conspiracy of the elite.

01:39:12.000 And listen to what he says, because I think this is so important.

01:39:15.000 He said, quote, now this is in his book called The Open Conspiracy.

01:39:19.000 He says, the conspiracy, that's of the elite, must begin as a movement of explanation and propaganda.

01:39:31.000 So for them to take over the world and bring in their world federation, as Alfred Lord Tennyson called it in his poem, Loxley Hall, There's two elements.

01:39:41.000 It must be a movement by the elite, and they have to use explanation.

01:39:45.000 So they have to explain the way things are supposed to be or are.

01:39:49.000 What's really happening in Iraq, they're going to explain it to us, Alex.

01:39:53.000 What's happening in Afghanistan?

01:39:55.000 What happened with Corporal Tillman?

01:39:58.000 Private Jessica?

01:39:59.000 They're going to explain the way they want us to understand it, put their spin on it.

01:40:04.000 And the second element is propaganda.

01:40:08.000 And I think those are the two elements that we have now.

01:40:11.000 They control the mass media, and we're really the only outlets people can believe in as truth, because we don't have any dog in the hunt other than American patriotism.

01:40:23.000 And a lot of people say, so you're part of the patriot movement.

01:40:26.000 And I don't know why, as much a patriot as I am, I guess I come from small-town America, and, you know, I'm the kind of guy, when I joined the Air Force at the young age of 18, when I said the Pledge of Allegiance, I had tears in my eyes.

01:40:41.000 Because I love this great country.

01:40:42.000 But as great as that feeling, and I know you're just like that Alex, I've met you many times.

01:40:48.000 As great as that is, I have to tell you, I love the truth more.

01:40:54.000 Absolutely.

01:40:57.000 Because really, a nation that's based on a fabric of lies cannot stand.

01:41:02.000 Justice be done, though the heavens fall.

01:41:05.000 And just mentioning a little side point, when you brought up Mohammed Karzai, when Bush is up there in a speech going, they're pure evil, they're helping the Taliban overthrow our government there, Al-Qaeda, and Karzai goes, well actually, they're helping us, they're not bad. 0.74

01:41:20.000 At least on that issue.

01:41:22.000 I'm not defending any of these regimes.

01:41:24.000 There's always evil in high places, folks.

01:41:28.000 Iran is Shiite, folks, okay? 0.83

01:41:30.000 That's the opposite of Wahhabi, the opposite of what the Pashtuns follow, of what the Taliban slash Al-Qaeda is. 0.98

01:41:38.000 There's the two major brands of Islam.

01:41:41.000 You know, one is Lex Luthor, the other is Superman, depending on which side of the stripe the Muslim's on. 1.00

01:41:45.000 But the point is, it's black and white.

01:41:47.000 It's two separate groups.

01:41:50.000 And so, they get on the news and go, Iran's funding Al-Qaeda insurgency in Iraq.

01:41:56.000 Iran is the opposite of Al-Qaeda.

01:41:58.000 And then you actually read the White House announcement a few months ago, what we knew three years ago they were doing, Cy Hearst reported on it, that they're actually using Wahhabists and You know, real Al Qaeda federated groups who attack Iran in their western province to destabilize.

01:42:15.000 So in reality, the criminals that run our government are actually using real Al Qaeda.

01:42:21.000 To attack Iran. 0.95

01:42:23.000 Iran is always kicking them out.

01:42:24.000 Iran has been helping go after any of these people in their border regions because they don't like them.

01:42:30.000 They want to overthrow Iran. 0.93

01:42:32.000 And then Bush has the nerve to lie and say that Iran is behind Al-Qaeda when it's apples and oranges.

01:42:40.000 And that's so simple, but I try to explain it to people on the street.

01:42:45.000 It's like people are mesmerized.

01:42:47.000 They can't think.

01:42:48.000 I don't understand it.

01:42:50.000 Well, it is part of the psychodrama, the theater, that's been arranged for us.

01:42:56.000 Remember, that's the explanation and propaganda that the conspiracy elite are using.

01:43:01.000 So it is the pageantry and illusion, and most people cannot break away from that.

01:43:06.000 You know, we were talking earlier about the lie of Pearl Harbor.

01:43:11.000 Because so many people say to you, and I know they do me too, Alex, and to every person who's in the Patriot Truth Movement, they say, Surely, you're not suggesting that our government would kill 3,000 people on 9-11.

01:43:26.000 Surely!

01:43:28.000 What monsters would do such a thing?

01:43:30.000 But of course, life is nothing to these evil planners.

01:43:38.000 And 3,000, that's approximately what also died at Pearl Harbor.

01:43:42.000 You know, you mentioned this illusion and the pageantry and how people are mesmerized.

01:43:47.000 I was just reading a book recently called, and the title is immaterial, it's a little bit awkward, it's called, Clawson's Commentaries on Morals and Dogma.

01:43:59.000 Henry C. Clawson was a 33rd degree mason and the sovereign grand commander of all of Freemasonry, beginning in 1969, and he was there for about 20 years or so, okay?

01:44:13.000 So this is in our lifetimes.

01:44:15.000 Henry C. Clawson, he wrote this book that really comments on Albert Pike's magic witchcraft text that's the classic textbook for all Masons called Morals and Dogma. 0.91

01:44:27.000 But I noticed on something, I got to page 212 and he was talking about the Wizard of Oz!

01:44:32.000 Well, what has that got to do with Freemasons and with the Illuminati conspiracy?

01:44:37.000 He talks about the royal secret that the elite, you know, have.

01:44:43.000 These God-men, these Olympians.

01:44:45.000 And he said, you must find it for yourself like Dorothy of the Wizard of Oz wearing magic slippers.

01:44:52.000 So, you know, they're telling their people, this is magic.

01:44:56.000 And you've got to be a magician.

01:44:58.000 And you've got to deceive the people by mesmerizing them, by hypnotizing them, by over and over repeating the same lies.

01:45:07.000 Now, the interesting thing about this, and you're going to love this, Alex, This Henry C. Clawson, Sovereign Grand Commander of International Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

01:45:17.000 By the way, he was also an illustrious, potentate member of the United Lodge of Great Britain.

01:45:22.000 You know, it all works together, doesn't it?

01:45:25.000 He was also a member of the Bohemian Club.

01:45:29.000 Oh.

01:45:29.000 In San Francisco.

01:45:30.000 I didn't know that.

01:45:31.000 Yeah.

01:45:32.000 But that's not all.

01:45:33.000 I was looking at this biography in the back about the author on page 213.

01:45:38.000 You won't believe this.

01:45:39.000 The guy was an attorney.

01:45:41.000 He wins the Army in 1942 during World War II, and became a Lieutenant Colonel in the Judge Advocate General's office.

01:45:51.000 But now listen to this!

01:45:54.000 He was the personal appointee, it says here, of FDR's Secretary of War, Henry Stimson, on the Army's Pearl Harbor Board!

01:46:06.000 Wow!

01:46:07.000 Now, remember the guy, member of Bohemian Grove, 33rd Degree Mason, went on to become the Sovereign Grand Commander, a corrupt attorney out of San Francisco, and here he is on the Pearl Harbor Board, it says, he also conducted further investigations into the Pearl Harbor disaster, and was rewarded with a Legion of Merit for his judgment.

01:46:35.000 Oh! 0.60

01:46:36.000 It says, his efforts contributed much to the maintenance of public confidence in what happened at Pearl Harbor.

01:46:47.000 Oh yes!

01:46:48.000 How wonderful!

01:46:49.000 And by the way, in case there were any of these claims that there were communists in the Pentagon and in the White House, you know, such as McCarthy had, they were ready for this.

01:47:00.000 This guy, Clawson, the head of the Masons, was, listen to this, He was appointed as Staff Judge Advocate to the Office of the Prosecutor in important court-martial cases, and he was on the Special Presidential Appeal Board for spy trials. 0.78

01:47:19.000 You're accused of being a spy?

01:47:21.000 Don't worry!

01:47:21.000 Old Brother Clausen will take care of it!

01:47:26.000 So everything is cooked by these people.

01:47:29.000 And this is just an example.

01:47:30.000 So, was Pearl Harbor a lie?

01:47:33.000 Of course!

01:47:34.000 Roosevelt knew they wanted to get us into World War II.

01:47:37.000 They knew what the Japanese were going to do. 1.00

01:47:39.000 They knew that Berlin, Germany, had a pact with Japan.

01:47:45.000 And when we declared war on Japan, we were also declaring war on Germany.

01:47:50.000 This is what they wanted. 0.95

01:47:51.000 The Druid witch! 1.00

01:47:53.000 A pagan priest over in Great Britain, Wynton Churchill, working with the pagan priest of America, FDR, the Freemason, who put the all-seeing eye, and they had old brother Clawson there all ready to go as a staff judge advocate, the personal appointee of the Secretary of War.

01:48:10.000 And look at how he joins the army and goes right to the top at thousands of times the speed of anybody else.

01:48:16.000 It's all predestined with these individuals.

01:48:21.000 Tex, what do they think about our work, from all your years of study?

01:48:24.000 I mean, I know they're mad at us, I know they've persecuted you, persecuted me, but all that's a blessing, but what do these elites think of us?

01:48:32.000 I believe they're very worried about us.

01:48:34.000 I believe they're very concerned.

01:48:36.000 Just like Lenin said, we cannot allow words against the government.

01:48:40.000 Remember, Bush even went to the United Nations and said we can't allow these conspiracy theories.

01:48:47.000 I'm paraphrasing, but you remember it exactly.

01:48:49.000 Well, that's what he said.

01:48:50.000 No, we can't allow these things.

01:48:53.000 And the gal, you know, who was the spokesperson, from Austin, Texas, by the way, I'm sorry, I forget her name now.

01:49:00.000 She was sent over to the State Department to develop a special office, I call it the Office of Disinformation.

01:49:05.000 The OD.

01:49:06.000 The OD of that office.

01:49:09.000 To try to create news items and news stories, trying to blast people like Alex Jones.

01:49:13.000 And by the way, let me just add this caveat before I forget it.

01:49:16.000 One of the things she said is we're liars, you know, Renz is a liar, everybody's evil, there's no 9-11.

01:49:22.000 But they also said China doesn't take political dissidents' organs.

01:49:27.000 There was a problem, though.

01:49:28.000 The State Department, five years before, had done a big paper on it.

01:49:31.000 So she was even shilling just... Stay there, Tex, I want to hear what you think about Then we're going to go to Ron Nelson and a couple other callers for Tex Mars.

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01:53:13.000 Aaron, Jeff.

01:53:18.000 Johnny, Richard, so many of you.

01:53:19.000 We're going to get to you here in just a minute or two and hold Tex about 15 over in the next hour if he can do that.

01:53:24.000 I need to ask him if he can do that.

01:53:26.000 I keep forgetting during the breaks.

01:53:28.000 Tex, can you hold over a little bit for the next hour?

01:53:30.000 I sure can, Alex.

01:53:31.000 I'm having a good time exposing you.

01:53:33.000 You know, I've always been thrilled by it, and I'm certainly no saint, but I like to do good.

01:53:41.000 I have a conscience.

01:53:42.000 I feel bad when I do things that are bad.

01:53:44.000 I always liked standing up to bullies.

01:53:50.000 It's so alien, these people that revel in hurting innocents. 0.98

01:53:53.000 They revel in lining people up and blowing their heads off.

01:53:58.000 I'd like to like the serial killer up in Missouri, who was the cop and the public official, who enjoyed... And so many times we see that, and when I was asking you about what do the elite think of us, by that I don't mean that as some idiosyncratic, I want to hear about us, but I'm curious, what do they think about our movement from your research?

01:54:25.000 You know, first of all, remember they have been dismantling the Constitution one piece at a time.

01:54:31.000 They don't control all the judges, 95%, but that 5% must really stymie, must really anger and baffle them.

01:54:39.000 The same thing with us.

01:54:40.000 We have at least some vestiges left.

01:54:43.000 We really need to grab hold of those things and swing with them like Tarzan, you know, from tree to tree.

01:54:49.000 There's very little cable or rope left there.

01:54:52.000 But, uh, I am convinced, I know from my own standpoint, you know, we had the Internal Revenue Service, uh, four years, actually, uh, audit me, uh, in the ministry, and then they turned around and audit me personally for four years.

01:55:09.000 So, you know, and by the way, the IRS agent admitted that it was a find, it was not something at random, just a computer spit out.

01:55:19.000 Uh, and he must have been a very high-level guy.

01:55:21.000 The guy drove a fancy sports car.

01:55:23.000 And wore a really expensive suit.

01:55:26.000 That's the IRS agent they sent over here.

01:55:28.000 Now, they didn't find anything.

01:55:29.000 They sort of wasted their time, but it cost me tens of thousands of dollars to find this.

01:55:36.000 We finally took them to court, and they finally dropped the law.

01:55:38.000 Well, not to mention your time, and I remember that really tied you up.

01:55:42.000 It really did, you know.

01:55:43.000 And of course, these people talk about bullies. 0.91

01:55:46.000 They are just bullies.

01:55:48.000 But this is what you... Well, you wrote that book about Hillary, Big Sisters, watching you, and it's admitted that they assigned tens of thousands to be audited.

01:55:56.000 Oh, I'll tell you, absolutely.

01:55:57.000 I remember talking to the Rutherford Institute, and they told me that my telephone was tapped.

01:56:04.000 But here's the whole point.

01:56:05.000 Our lives must be visible.

01:56:07.000 If you're going to fight Big Brother's evil, your life must be invisible.

01:56:13.000 Again, you mentioned that we're not perfect.

01:56:15.000 Of course we're not.

01:56:16.000 We don't claim to be.

01:56:17.000 You know, one of the things I really like what you said, that you can't stand bullies, you always fought against bullies.

01:56:24.000 That's always been me.

01:56:26.000 You know, I'm not a real courageous guy, but I remember way back in the seventh grade, they had a guy that everybody was picking on.

01:56:34.000 And finally, I just couldn't take it anymore.

01:56:36.000 We were out during recess or whatever, and they had about a hundred guys there, it seemed like, picking on him.

01:56:41.000 Especially a couple bullies that I just walked up, and at the back of my mind I thought, oh boy, I'm in for it now.

01:56:46.000 Now they're going to beat me up.

01:56:48.000 But I couldn't take it anymore, and I went up there and I said, why don't you quit picking on this guy?

01:56:52.000 Pick on me instead.

01:56:54.000 Now some people say, Tex, you were really brave.

01:56:56.000 No, I was scared!

01:56:59.000 But I did it, and you don't want the bullies back down! 1.00

01:57:01.000 Well, it's a survival instinct for the tribe to stand up against oppressors. 1.00

01:57:07.000 You see a bunch of scum, you can't help it. 0.98

01:57:10.000 And I believe that most people know these things are true, but they're frightened. 0.99

01:57:10.000 That's right. 0.99

01:57:15.000 But your audience, praise God, are courageous.

01:57:17.000 They are.

01:57:18.000 No, they are.

01:57:19.000 And it's simple.

01:57:21.000 I mean, growing up, it was a lot of rough stuff when I grew up in Dallas.

01:57:25.000 I mean, people fought like demons up there.

01:57:28.000 And I learned real quick, it's just best to go ahead and get it over with.

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01:57:42.000 Hello, folks.

01:57:45.000 Big Brother.

01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Already into the third and final hour, just a few minutes left, five minutes, then a couple minutes after the break we'll text Mars.

01:58:14.000 Let's go to calls for texts.

01:58:17.000 Let's talk to Tom in New York.

01:58:19.000 You're on the air.

01:58:20.000 Go ahead, Tom.

01:58:24.000 Oh, okay.

01:58:25.000 Then we'll go to Ron in New York next.

01:58:27.000 Ron, you're on the air.

01:58:28.000 Go ahead.

01:58:29.000 Hi.

01:58:30.000 My topic may not exactly be on point completely with what Tex is talking about, but I want to raise an issue.

01:58:36.000 Ron, you haven't called in about a year.

01:58:38.000 Good to hear from you.

01:58:39.000 Thank you.

01:58:39.000 Thank you very much.

01:58:40.000 It's tougher to get through to your show now as you get more popular.

01:58:43.000 Harder and harder and harder.

01:58:44.000 But I finally made it today.

01:58:46.000 The topic I'm going to discuss today is in regards to a bill which was formally titled prior to last Thursday, H.R.

01:58:57.000 2640, which is an expansion of the National Incident Check System in order to purchase firearms.

01:59:02.000 Which federalizes the departments.

01:59:04.000 It's the biggest gun control act since 1968.

01:59:06.000 The NRA supported it, and the average person has no idea.

01:59:10.000 The BATF, coast to coast, and I've even had NRA board members on to talk about this, is shutting down gun shops everywhere.

01:59:17.000 There is a reign of anti-gun terror.

01:59:19.000 Let me get Tex to comment on that.

01:59:21.000 Tex, you want to comment on what's happening?

01:59:23.000 Well, I'm glad Ron brought this up.

01:59:25.000 This is all part of it.

01:59:26.000 But remember, the Republican Party and George Bush masquerade as defenders of the Second Amendment.

01:59:33.000 Here again we have what the truth is versus the lie.

01:59:38.000 So, they have their thugs, you know, at the ATF, the Treasury Department, going around harassing gun shops and such.

01:59:51.000 At the same time, they're going down and Dick Cheney's shooting somebody in the face.

01:59:56.000 Maybe we should take away his guns.

01:59:58.000 But then we leave good American citizens with something to defend ourselves against, the tyrants in Washington, D.C.

02:00:05.000 Now Ron's a former New York, he's a retired police officer.

02:00:09.000 You want to comment on this, Ron?

02:00:11.000 Go ahead.

02:00:11.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:00:13.000 It's even worse than people know, and they have played this so cleverly.

02:00:16.000 They have played this one Like a black widow playing each strand of its webs.

02:00:20.000 It's almost diabolical cunning has been used to promote this.

02:00:24.000 It is no longer called H.R.

02:00:26.000 2640, by the way, because in the U.S.

02:00:28.000 Senate Committee last Thursday, U.S.

02:00:30.000 Senate Judiciary Committee, it was merged with several other unrelated bills.

02:00:35.000 And they've retitled it.

02:00:37.000 See, they keep metamorphosizing the bill every time people get a little wild.

02:00:40.000 Now, wait a minute.

02:00:41.000 Bush signed an instant check expansion.

02:00:45.000 You mean there's another one?

02:00:46.000 Yes, yep.

02:00:48.000 Oh my, when does it end?

02:00:49.000 I can't even keep track.

02:00:50.000 Hold on, hold on, my friend.

02:00:52.000 Please, this is unbelievable.

02:00:53.000 Here's what's happening.

02:00:54.000 I'm going to put you on hold because Mike Rivera will want to talk about this.

02:00:57.000 Ron, can you hold this?

02:00:57.000 I want to give you some time.

02:00:58.000 Oh, it's absolutely important that I hold and let the country know what you're listening to.

02:01:02.000 And I want to skip to another caller, I don't want people to have a chance.

02:01:04.000 Nelson just hung up, so let's go to Jenny in Arizona.

02:01:07.000 Jenny, you're on the air with Tex Mars.

02:01:09.000 Hi, Alex.

02:01:11.000 First time caller, so I'm a little nervous, so if you could bear with me a little bit.

02:01:16.000 First I wanted to say that I wanted to ask if you've ever read a book called A Choice, Not an Echo.

02:01:21.000 Written by Phyllis Shafley, I believe.

02:01:23.000 Phyllis Shafley.

02:01:25.000 I've read the book.

02:01:26.000 I've interviewed her.

02:01:27.000 Okay, because my mom always talked about this book.

02:01:29.000 She said her father used to always talk about it, and so I got it off eBay.

02:01:32.000 I actually got you a copy, too, so I didn't know if you'd seen it or read it, but it's amazing.

02:01:37.000 It was written back in the 60s.

02:01:38.000 It talks all about... She refers to the New World Order as Kingmakers, and she talks about how She mentions the Bilderbergs and how she mentions possible meeting dates, and I cross-referenced the meeting dates of the Bilderberg meetings that she was discussing, and sure enough it was definite Bilderberg that she was talking about.

02:01:58.000 And she mentioned David Rockefeller in there, George Romney, the governor of Michigan at the time, father of Mitt Romney. 0.98

02:02:04.000 Oh yeah, total scum. 0.99

02:02:05.000 It was just amazing how she was mentioning how they had the Kingmakers put in Romney to go up against Goldwater. 1.00

02:02:13.000 Because they did not want Goldwater in there no matter what.

02:02:16.000 And they're running Romney against Paul right now.

02:02:19.000 Let me get Tex Mars comment on that quickly on the other side.

02:02:24.000 And then we're going to wrap it up with our guest.

02:02:26.000 Got to get him back up in the near future.

02:02:29.000 Final segment with Tex Mars on the other side.

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02:05:38.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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02:05:56.000 We are in occupied territory.

02:05:59.000 I've been running that liner now for ten years, nine years.

02:06:06.000 I don't know if it's 98, 9 years.

02:06:10.000 And that's what we're facing here.

02:06:13.000 We are in occupied territory.

02:06:15.000 Physically, financially, spiritually, geographically.

02:06:20.000 We need to realize that it is a literal hoax, a fraud, a matrix of propaganda that is then regurgitated by the general public.

02:06:28.000 And going back to Jenny, and then we're going to finish up with Johnny, and that's going to be it.

02:06:32.000 We're going to let Tex go.

02:06:35.000 Johnny in Virginia.

02:06:36.000 Tex, that's exactly what we're talking about.

02:06:37.000 These lies, and how it's generational, and how Mitt Romney, you know, she found stuff written back in the 60s about how his daddy was used to hamstring Goldwater, who was a Ron Paul, you know, prototype.

02:06:50.000 That's exactly what you were talking about earlier.

02:06:52.000 These key people in key positions, and you can see We've got a video on PrisonPlanet.com today where it shows ABC photos on ABC's website and shows one Ron Paul person with a sign that says, oh, there were many more Mitt Romney.

02:07:06.000 Then it shows actual video of those very people.

02:07:09.000 There are hundreds of Ron Paul people and just a few Mitt Romneys they misrepresent.

02:07:14.000 Again, it's a lie.

02:07:16.000 Right there.

02:07:17.000 So, comments to what Jenny was saying, Tex?

02:07:20.000 Well, and you know, I can understand why they did, and why Schlafly was correct in her book, A Choice, Not an Echo, because Goldwater wrote his autobiography and he warned people about the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission a little later on.

02:07:38.000 But he said the CFR is basically a group that Of influential men who want a new world order, a one world system to end American sovereignty.

02:07:48.000 So they didn't want Goldwater in there.

02:07:49.000 And you remember the incredible propaganda they used about him.

02:07:53.000 They had a little girl in a political ad showing a little girl picking daisies in a beautiful field of daisy flowers and suddenly a new mushroom cloud.

02:08:04.000 And of course, Mr. Condi Rice, When people doubted that there were weapons of mass destruction, Alex, what did she bring forth?

02:08:11.000 She said, we don't want to see a mushroom cloud.

02:08:13.000 The mushroom cloud!

02:08:15.000 Boy, I'll always remember that mushroom.

02:08:17.000 You know, one of the things I was just thinking during the break, and I'd like to just very quickly read, because I think your video documentary, Terror Storm, Boy, it epitomizes.

02:08:30.000 Going back to Phyllis Schlafly and that book in the 60s, this is the book written in 48, by George Orwell, or published in 48, 1984.

02:08:38.000 And I'd like your comment, Alex, on this.

02:08:43.000 It talks on page 153 here of the edition I have of George Orwell's 1984.

02:08:48.000 Remember, the main character, Winston, had a girlfriend named Julia, and she believed that most of the nonsense being put out by the government was a bunch of lies.

02:08:57.000 Now listen to this quote, and see, I want to know what you think it says.

02:09:02.000 In some ways, she, that is Julia, was far more acute than Winston and far less susceptible to propaganda.

02:09:10.000 Once, When he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that, in her opinion, the war was not happening.

02:09:23.000 The rocket bombs, which fell daily on London, were probably fired by the government itself, just to keep people frightened.

02:09:33.000 This was an idea that literally had never occurred to him.

02:09:39.000 And then later he's walking and he notices it never hits government compounds, it just hits the general public.

02:09:45.000 No, exactly, that's government-sponsored terror.

02:09:47.000 And you see, Orwell had worked in the secret police in India growing up there.

02:09:52.000 Then he decided to be a bum for years and to experience it very highly educated, very smart. 0.86

02:09:57.000 Eric Blair was his real name.

02:09:58.000 Then he fought for the communists.

02:10:00.000 He found out then they were controlled in Franco-Spain. 0.58

02:10:02.000 He got shot through the throat.

02:10:04.000 Then he went back and worked for the BBC in propaganda and in that book he figures out, of course then it was known in England that the Milner Group, as Carol Quigley wrote, actually knew Hitler was going to do what he did and financed him so he would, and they knew this in the 30s, would tear everything up so they could bring down Europe. 0.77

02:10:22.000 So Orwell knew all that and that's why the book is so genius because he lays out a lot of their systems.

02:10:27.000 Anything else you want to add, Jenny, from Arizona?

02:10:31.000 Yeah, just real quick, there was one other point I wanted to make about, I was reading the Costco magazine this month that I get, and on page 43 it's titled, Meet the Board, and to my surprise, the director since 2003 is William H. Gates, the father of Bill Gates.

02:10:45.000 So I thought that pretty ridiculous, considering he's a big population thinning advocate, and Costco's all about bulk.

02:10:51.000 He's on the board of what?

02:10:52.000 On the board of Costco.

02:10:54.000 Oh yeah, well he's also on the board of Planned Parenthood, and Bill Gates is a huge eugenicist. 0.84

02:11:02.000 You look like pure evil.

02:11:04.000 Well, it's hard to find photos of him.

02:11:07.000 That ended up on the cutting room floor in Endgame.

02:11:09.000 We just don't have time to put that in and add all the evidence of how wicked Bill Gates and his daddy are, but thank you.

02:11:14.000 And listen, I haven't read a choice on an Echo in years, and so if you bought an extra copy, give it to friends or family, or if you're not going to, sure, send it.

02:11:21.000 It'd be good to have in the library.

02:11:24.000 I really appreciate your call, Jenny.

02:11:25.000 One last call, and we're going to go to Mike Rivera, and I appreciate Tex joining us today, and I appreciate Mike coming on.

02:11:31.000 Johnny in Virginia, go ahead.

02:11:33.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:11:34.000 Text, I was wondering if, being that we're all familiar with unconstitutional behavior of government and so forth, if the people were Constitution-minded, and you were charged and arrested and went before a jury of your peers for violating a law that is unconstitutional, would you be convicted?

02:11:52.000 And second part is, if the people were Constitution-minded, Wouldn't that turn government completely around, starting at the state level?

02:12:01.000 Let me just throw something in.

02:12:03.000 That question is directly for Tex, isn't it?

02:12:05.000 Yes.

02:12:05.000 Tex, go ahead.

02:12:09.000 I'm breaking my habit of interrupting.

02:12:10.000 It's not a show-off thing.

02:12:11.000 It's that I get real hyper and then I... Well, I think it's conviction.

02:12:17.000 It's passion for the truth here.

02:12:19.000 Well, you know, if I understand the question correct, of course.

02:12:23.000 You know, people are being convicted.

02:12:24.000 Look at the two Border Patrol agents.

02:12:26.000 Because the government brings in lies.

02:12:29.000 And they use propaganda, as they did in the trial of the Koresh people. 0.58

02:12:36.000 And the judge also instructs the jury on what they've got to do, which he's not supposed to do.

02:12:42.000 You're supposed to judge the facts and the law, and the jury's the boss, and they even instruct the judge.

02:12:46.000 Now they've incrementally changed that culture to a fraud.

02:12:51.000 But expanding on that, the American Bar Association, the last seven years running, their number one thing they call for whenever they meet, generally in Newark or Chicago, is to abolish trial by jury.

02:13:01.000 So the lawyers themselves, the Guild, are arguing to abolish it, Tex?

02:13:08.000 They would like that because, you know, they don't want any way that the people can be involved in making judgments and decisions.

02:13:16.000 But again here, you know, the Constitution has been destroyed piece by piece.

02:13:21.000 And I want people to remember something.

02:13:23.000 Our original Constitution did not have a Bill of Rights.

02:13:27.000 The elite Even who gave us our Constitution did not include a Bill of Rights, but the people of the United States, the little people, you can call them that if you want to, I like being called a little person.

02:13:39.000 That's right.

02:13:39.000 1789, they demanded it.

02:13:40.000 They said, we're not going to approve this Constitution unless you add ten amendments.

02:13:46.000 And so, this is very vital for us.

02:13:49.000 It's not what our founding fathers gave to us.

02:13:53.000 It's what the people of America demanded and said you're not going to take away from us.

02:13:58.000 Absolutely.

02:13:59.000 Thank you for the call, Johnny.

02:14:01.000 Tex, I know you've been really busy and we're always praying for your ministry and the great work you do, but I'd like to twist your arm to come back on at least once a month with us because we're always so blessed to have you.

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02:14:37.000 Tex, say hi to everybody there at the office, and Wanda, and Mickey, and everybody else, and God bless you, my friend.

02:14:43.000 Hey, it's been a great pleasure, and God bless you and your wonderful audience, Alex.

02:14:46.000 You bet.

02:14:47.000 He is just such a sweetheart.

02:14:48.000 He's such a dear sweetheart, and his wife is so great.

02:14:50.000 And, you know, I'm so busy.

02:14:51.000 I used to go out to dinner every once in a while with Tex, and go over to his house and stuff.

02:14:56.000 Years ago, I don't know, I haven't seen Tex personally in three years.

02:14:59.000 He's never even met my daughter.

02:15:04.000 I'm not whining, that's the type of stuff I've sacrificed, is that I never get to see people anymore.

02:15:09.000 And you know what?

02:15:10.000 Speaking of sacrifice, I appreciate Michael Rivero sitting there for the last five minutes.

02:15:14.000 I got text on late.

02:15:16.000 And then, so I've got him on late.

02:15:17.000 He joins us once a month.

02:15:18.000 It's his own great show, Saturday mornings for two hours here on the GCN Radio Network.

02:15:23.000 It's another syndicated show now, and I'm glad that I twisted his arm into getting into radio because he's got a lot of talent and a great political mind.

02:15:30.000 WhatReallyHappened.com is the website, and we always love to pick his brain once a month.

02:15:36.000 We'll be taking your calls.

02:15:36.000 Come up in about 20 minutes for him.

02:15:38.000 We've got some calls on gun control and other issues.

02:15:40.000 But Mike Rivero, always good to have you on, my friend.

02:15:42.000 Well, always good to be on your show, Alex, and I didn't mind waiting because I like to listen to Tex talk about what he talks about, too.

02:15:49.000 He's a very interesting fellow.

02:15:50.000 A very cheerful individual, as well.

02:15:53.000 Always makes you happy to talk to him.

02:15:55.000 Mike, we never talk before you come on air.

02:15:57.000 What do you think is most important right now?

02:15:59.000 Give us a prelude, and we'll come back and get into it.

02:16:02.000 Well, I think right now what is becoming obvious is that Ron Paul's candidacy is really gaining a lot of steam, and I think the mainstream media and the establishment Are transitioning away from simply saying he's irrelevant to attempting to recast him on issues away from the war.

02:16:21.000 And whether or not Ron Paul can actually win the White House or not, the reality is that as long as he remains a viable candidate, he is going to make the wars a major issue of the 2008 campaign.

02:16:33.000 And he's going to inject real issues.

02:16:35.000 Absolutely, that will be the case.

02:16:37.000 And the last thing that any of the other candidates want is for the war to be an issue at all.

02:16:42.000 And the sooner they can get rid of him, the sooner they can go on trying to make global warming, or gay marriage, or immigration, or all these other things... The diversionary football! 0.95

02:16:52.000 Oh, perfect!

02:16:52.000 I'm glad!

02:16:53.000 I meant to talk about that this morning when I saw all the hit pieces on Paul.

02:16:57.000 Then I kind of forgot it in the wash, you know, on air.

02:16:59.000 You know, with all this other stuff floating around.

02:17:01.000 But that's in my stack here, you know, where they're going, he did spit millions for shrimp research!

02:17:06.000 The earmark had been spent, it was being apportioned to his district, and he said, OK, since I've got to have the money, I'll try the private industry for research on how to get shrimp in the Gulf, because there's literally hardly any.

02:17:18.000 I mean, when I was a kid, there were hundreds of shrimp boats at every port.

02:17:21.000 Now there's none.

02:17:22.000 He tries to get shrimp back in the ocean, and now he's evil.

02:17:24.000 They're saying, oh, he's pork barrel.

02:17:26.000 Stay there, Mike Rivera.

02:17:27.000 We'll come back.

02:17:29.000 And, man, I'm glad you brought that up.

02:17:30.000 We'll talk about Ron Paul on the other side.

02:17:32.000 I'm glad he mentioned that, because I'd totally forgotten about it.

02:17:36.000 And we've got a story on prisonpanda.com is our top story up there about this.

02:17:39.000 So Mike always brings up the key issues.

02:17:41.000 We'll talk to him on the other side.

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02:21:40.000 Strange days are here.

02:21:51.000 Strange days have found us.

02:21:53.000 They're going to destroy us.

02:22:07.000 Yeah, the controlled corporate brainwashing press knows the general public.

02:22:12.000 Actually has no idea even about how the three branches of government work.

02:22:15.000 Or the two houses of Congress.

02:22:18.000 The two bodies or that earmarks and Ron Paul's put a statement out on this.

02:22:24.000 He's explained this years ago.

02:22:25.000 This is how earmarks work.

02:22:27.000 They've spent all this pork money.

02:22:28.000 He votes against the pork.

02:22:31.000 Then they say, here's the money secreted to your district.

02:22:33.000 But he doesn't bring statistically a lot of pork back.

02:22:37.000 And they always criticize him.

02:22:39.000 People that run against him always criticize him and say, you didn't bring us any pork.

02:22:42.000 And he says, yeah, I voted against all these big spending bills.

02:22:45.000 But then once they apportion the money, even the poultry sum that he gets for that area of South Texas on the coast, He gets it!

02:22:52.000 And so he says, okay, I'll try to get shrimp back in the Gulf.

02:22:54.000 That looks like a good place to spend some money.

02:22:56.000 Free market.

02:22:58.000 And he's being crucified for that.

02:22:59.000 They're calling it a skeleton they uncovered.

02:23:02.000 Meanwhile, you can have the other candidates involved in every form of corruption you can imagine.

02:23:07.000 Giuliani with his daddy being a mob boss, and Sintra-Zachary foreign corporations grabbing the roads, and toll roads, and profiteering, and grabbing 9-11 funds in New York.

02:23:18.000 Mike Rivera, you got the floor.

02:23:19.000 Go over it for us.

02:23:20.000 Well, basically, what it is, is Ron Paul is viewed by the current established order in D.C.

02:23:26.000 as very much of an outsider.

02:23:29.000 He is coming in there, he is bringing the real issues to this election, which is the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the lies that got us into these wars, and as long as he is in the running, then people have to talk about the war.

02:23:43.000 And coming out of the 2006 elections, Politicians know the war is a loser for elections and campaigns.

02:23:51.000 Congress was taken away from the GOP and handed to the Democrats on the basis of opposition to the war.

02:23:57.000 The Democrats, of course, have turned into this incredible disappointment and everybody's wondering just, you know, how complicit they are.

02:24:04.000 But nobody wants the war to be an issue going into 2008.

02:24:07.000 And this is why we've seen the mainstream media continue to insist Ron Paul has no support.

02:24:13.000 The numbers that he's getting online are just because he's got a few hackers working for him, running up the online polls.

02:24:19.000 He's not real, he isn't there, and even though the debates he's been in, he clearly walks away in charge of.

02:24:26.000 They're desperate to dismiss him.

02:24:28.000 He's been winning one IP address polls that a lot of experts are saying are more scientific than a Gallup poll or they call a certain subset where they know what answer they're going to get.

02:24:37.000 He's gone from not showing up to three points on the poll.

02:24:40.000 He's raised more money than McCain.

02:24:44.000 Las Vegas is saying he's the only person that can beat a Democrat and the Republicans know that.

02:24:49.000 They're just meant to basically pass the baton, raise campaign money and keep it themselves.

02:24:54.000 This is not a real election and he is a spoiler.

02:24:56.000 It's a tempest in a teapot, and frankly I agree.

02:24:59.000 We need to get some of that part of the economy of the country back running again.

02:25:04.000 that he was given, which he voted against, to put more shrimp in the Gulf.

02:25:09.000 It's a tempest in a teapot, and frankly, I agree.

02:25:12.000 We need to get some of that part of the economy of the country back running again.

02:25:17.000 It's been overfished.

02:25:18.000 It's been overharvested.

02:25:20.000 And yeah, finding ways to revitalize that.

02:25:22.000 I think I'd rather have my money spent on that than bombing the heck out of foreign countries. 1.00

02:25:28.000 Well, that's what he said.

02:25:29.000 He said several statements on this in the past.

02:25:31.000 He said they would use it for CPS.

02:25:34.000 They would use it for police state.

02:25:35.000 They'd use it for the war.

02:25:38.000 Absolutely.

02:25:39.000 And this is why Ron Paul is really looking at what is wrong with the United States of America.

02:25:45.000 And, you know, he wants to put the money there, and that is, of course, what everybody else wants to do as well.

02:25:51.000 But I want to put out this little caution here, and that is that Ron Paul has become as much of a threat to the established pro-war machine as John Kennedy was to the CIA, or Robert Kennedy was to Nixon.

02:26:07.000 And so I just hope Ron Paul's going to be really very, very careful, because when you become this much of a threat to the established oligarchy, Uh, you know, bad things can happen, and so I just hope he's got his Kevlar undies on.

02:26:19.000 No, I, you know, we asked him about that a few months ago, and he spent a full hour with us, and he said that no, he knows they'll try to kill him if he gets big enough, and he said they always, and he listed a bunch of people they'd killed or wounded.

02:26:31.000 And then Fox News attacked him Sunday because he comes on my show and said, Alex Jones! 0.95

02:26:36.000 You go on with those nuts!

02:26:37.000 And he said, well, I disagree with you, but I come on with you.

02:26:39.000 You know, he said, I disagree with Alex on a few things, but I agree with him on other things.

02:26:42.000 You know, he supports me.

02:26:44.000 I'm supporting him.

02:26:44.000 I mean, it just, to tell you, it spooks me out to have them talking about me, Mike.

02:26:51.000 Well, I can imagine that.

02:26:52.000 I've also noticed in the last few days that somebody is trying to drag Ron Paul into the middle of the 9-11 debate.

02:27:00.000 And again, to me, it is just a case of trying to take the war from being center stage issue going into the 2008 election.

02:27:07.000 And they're desperate to do it.

02:27:09.000 And because they're desperate, what they're doing is really obvious.

02:27:12.000 And I think to those of us who have been watching how the mainstream media has been manipulating elections for the last A couple of decades.

02:27:18.000 It's almost laughably obvious, you know, how scared they are.

02:27:21.000 Well, exactly.

02:27:22.000 But what's laughable is if 82% of Americans think they were lied to about 9-11, that's just going to make Ron Paul popular.

02:27:29.000 I mean, they misre... We'll talk about it when we get back.

02:27:32.000 Stay there, Mike Rivera.

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02:30:45.000 Ron, Wendy, Mike, Ryan.

02:30:59.000 Any others that are patiently holding?

02:31:03.000 Anthony, we're going to get to your calls coming up in about 10 minutes or so.

02:31:09.000 Michael Rivero is our guest joining us.

02:31:12.000 Always honored to have him.

02:31:14.000 I don't know if you've seen this Mitt Romney video we've got up on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:31:18.000 We just got a link to it.

02:31:20.000 But it shows the debate Sunday, and it shows hundreds of Ron Paul supporters.

02:31:23.000 I'd say three to one to Mitt Romney, and you see a few other signs in there too, but I mean I'd say two-thirds are Ron Paul.

02:31:33.000 It shows there's hundreds of people as the camera pans along, and then it shows in the video the very people that ABC News took photos of at the ABC News debate, which they didn't even promote and had in the early morning as everybody knows, and it shows One Ron Paul supporter, then it cuts to a huge mass of Mitt Romney people.

02:31:54.000 Shooting from down low and them all squanched together.

02:31:57.000 Using every trick in the book.

02:31:59.000 I think that's going to backfire on them.

02:32:01.000 Trying to claim, oh look he's for pork barrel.

02:32:03.000 Everybody knows he's against pork barrel.

02:32:06.000 And, uh, see, they know that's really popular to be against it.

02:32:09.000 And they hate to even mention that, as Mike was saying.

02:32:10.000 They want it to be about some football issue that'll never be decided.

02:32:13.000 I'm not saying abortion and things aren't real issues.

02:32:16.000 What I'm saying is they never want it to be, on one side or the other, conclusive.

02:32:21.000 It's meant to just go on forever.

02:32:23.000 And then, you know, gay marriage distractions and just all of this, you know, I mean, mindless diversions that they get us endlessly. 1.00

02:32:29.000 I mean, the Democrats are going to have a thing about a whole debate about gays.

02:32:33.000 I mean, I mean, you know, and again, I'm not bashing any group here.

02:32:36.000 It's like, I mean, are we going to have a meeting about a debate about heterosexuals or, you know, a debate about Christmas trees?

02:32:42.000 I mean, this is just crazy.

02:32:44.000 Mike Rivera, this new video, though, showing this, that's only going to enrage people.

02:32:50.000 Yeah, absolutely it is.

02:32:51.000 And again, going back to the fact that the majority of Americans know that we were all lied to about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

02:32:59.000 They know that the major networks were part and parcel to that lie, that they were complicit in the lie, that they have been very resistant to clarification of that lie.

02:33:09.000 So not only are they guilty of it, they're basically unrepentant.

02:33:13.000 They're still trying to perpetuate the lies and keep moving forward.

02:33:16.000 They're not showing any trace of social conscience.

02:33:19.000 By going back and saying, well, yeah, it was a lie that Saddam had nuclear weapons, or excuse me, nuclear weapons, the way Bush likes to say it.

02:33:28.000 On the internets.

02:33:30.000 Yeah, on the internets.

02:33:31.000 I know the Google.

02:33:33.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:33:35.000 So, anyway, yeah, the majority of the American people are very skeptical, they're very wise to the fact that the mainstream media exists to sell them things.

02:33:47.000 Including presidential candidates.

02:33:48.000 And yeah, they're going to see this tape and they're going to realize that, yeah, the media is trying as hard as they can to bury Ron Paul.

02:33:56.000 And what everybody needs to start asking is why?

02:33:58.000 Why is this guy so much of... Why is he so terrifying?

02:34:04.000 Because as you pointed out earlier, a lot of people think Ron Paul is the only candidate who could beat a Democrat like Hillary or Obama, and yet the GOP wants to shy away from him.

02:34:15.000 And the reason, of course, is He brings the issue of the war to the election.

02:34:20.000 And by the way, the GOP candidates, the other ones, to a man, won't even at least put out fake conservative rhetoric.

02:34:28.000 They're not even trying to win!

02:34:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:34:33.000 And what was really interesting, going back to that debate with Mitt Romney, when Ron Paul was talking about, you know, why are we over in the Mideast attacking countries that didn't attack us?

02:34:43.000 And Mitt Romney basically burst in with, well, what about 9-11?

02:34:47.000 And what we did is, we have the video of Bush admitting that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, and we had all of our readers basically just mail that video to Mitt Romney's campaign office to send him a message.

02:34:58.000 We know that you are misspeaking when you get up there and shout, what about 9-11, when Ron Paul is saying we should end these wars.

02:35:07.000 But Dick Cheney still doesn't.

02:35:10.000 Yeah, I'm sure that Dick Cheney still does.

02:35:13.000 But again, I don't know that that many people are paying attention to him outside the mainstream media.

02:35:18.000 I agree. 0.74

02:35:19.000 He's a complete joke.

02:35:21.000 10% approval rating now, down from 12 a month ago.

02:35:24.000 And no one's ever had a 10%, folks.

02:35:26.000 I mean, not even Nixon or Spiro Agnew or any of these criminals.

02:35:30.000 I want to get into economy briefly, war with you briefly, and then take a few calls for Mike Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com.

02:35:35.000 But first, Mike, This martial law situation, you've been looking at that since Clinton was in office.

02:35:42.000 You had one of the first political websites on the web, even before the drugs report.

02:35:45.000 So you've been there since the start.

02:35:46.000 I've never seen such preparation for a terror attack, such pre-hyping.

02:35:51.000 I've never seen a president sign a PDD saying, I'm above Congress.

02:35:54.000 And then Congress, now it's up to four members on the Homeland Security Board, write letters and make phone calls.

02:36:00.000 And Homeland Security says, even though you're high as security clearance, you can't see what our secret plan is.

02:36:07.000 I mean, that is the presidency announcing dictatorship, and Paul Craig Roberts said that first hour.

02:36:12.000 This is worse than martial law, because at least Congress would be involved in the Continuity of Government.

02:36:17.000 I mean, where do you see this going?

02:36:19.000 I see it going very much in the direction that Bush wants it to go until somebody, and obviously it's not going to be the Congress, stands up to him and whacks him on the nose with a two-by-four and says, don't do that anymore.

02:36:31.000 And what you're talking about, the media run up to a terrorist attack, if you think back To 2001, there was a brief interval between all Gary Condit all the time, which was used to distract Americans from U.S.

02:36:43.000 government announcements of a coming war in Afghanistan, and there was this gap throughout most of August, where we were getting all these news stories about what a terrible person Osama bin Laden was, and how bad al-Qaeda was, and how mean and nasty things that they were planning to do.

02:36:58.000 And they blow up the Buddhist temples and they're coming to get you any minute, yeah. 1.00

02:37:02.000 And actually, at the time, in August of 2001, I wrote an article at the time.

02:37:06.000 I said, something is coming up.

02:37:07.000 They're pre-selling this guy too hard.

02:37:10.000 Because Osama wasn't actually doing anything in any of these stories.

02:37:14.000 Yeah, they had to brand him first.

02:37:16.000 Yeah, that's exactly it.

02:37:17.000 The stories were all about what a bad man he is.

02:37:20.000 And there wasn't anything in the story that they were reporting.

02:37:23.000 It wasn't like, Osama blows up, you know, a bus and burns his lips on the exhaust pipe or something.

02:37:28.000 It was just, we say he's a bad man. 0.89

02:37:31.000 And they hurt women.

02:37:32.000 And I remember seeing Gary Hart and Warren Rudman on the CFR Commission that wrote up the Homeland Security Plan before it happened, bragging on Hardball, where they said, something big's coming, life's going to change.

02:37:43.000 And Matthew started laughing and saying, thank you for sharing this, I'm so honored.

02:37:47.000 And then they said, yeah, big buildings, there's going to be troops on the streets.

02:37:50.000 And they were laughing, going, big buildings and laughing.

02:37:52.000 They actually had a wicked little gang member celebration on TV.

02:37:57.000 And then I was at the grocery store later that day and I saw Bin Laden on all the magazines, because they know the lowest denominator hits their news by just looking at that. 0.79

02:38:05.000 And I went on there and I said, they're going to attack the World Trade Center.

02:38:08.000 Because I knew the Feds had bonded before.

02:38:10.000 Criminals always come back.

02:38:12.000 And I said, uh, it's gonna happen, and I said, call the White House, tell them don't do it.

02:38:16.000 I mean, that's how obvious this was, Mike.

02:38:18.000 It was very obvious back then.

02:38:20.000 It is equally obvious now.

02:38:22.000 We're seeing, from where I sit, we're seeing this huge faction fight inside the federal government where there are large portions of the government that don't want to do another 9-11 because they know the American people are not going to buy it.

02:38:35.000 They don't want to do any more wars because they're seeing that we're losing in Afghanistan and Iraq.

02:38:39.000 They think it's an insane idea.

02:38:41.000 They realize that we're mostly fighting these wars at the behest of a foreign government.

02:38:45.000 And they don't want to do that anymore, but you've got just these isolated individuals in positions of tremendous power who want to move this thing forward, and they don't care what they have to do to do it.

02:38:56.000 So it's kind of a scary thing that the future course of our entire history is going to be determined by whichever one of our leaders is the least mentally stable and willing to carry out another staged terror attack.

02:39:09.000 Now, if this isn't crazy enough, we'll go ahead and finish your point.

02:39:14.000 No, and basically, you know, those who are willing to do anything to attain power are usually going to be willing to do anything with it.

02:39:22.000 And as if all this isn't dangerous enough, and really, I mean, I'm freaked out, folks, and I live this every day.

02:39:27.000 This is really happening.

02:39:29.000 I mean, he's now announced he's a dictator, publicly.

02:39:32.000 As if that isn't bad enough, the dollar is in a complete nosedive.

02:39:35.000 The housing market is starting to implode.

02:39:37.000 Not just the arms or the jumbo loans, but the whole nine yards.

02:39:42.000 Quote, good lending risks are now defaulting.

02:39:44.000 The second biggest lender in mortgages just went belly up yesterday.

02:39:48.000 I mean, we've got inflation at 13.6% with the real brokerage houses numbers per annum.

02:39:54.000 I mean, this is insane!

02:39:55.000 I mean, Mike Rivera, we are living in just... it's incredible!

02:40:00.000 It absolutely is, and certainly the economy is a big, big, big problem because Bush and his neocons have been basically printing up the money to spend on their war.

02:40:10.000 And up until now, they were relying on the exploding real estate market to act as a cash sink.

02:40:16.000 They would print up the money at the Federal Reserve, they'd spend it on bombs and bullets and weapons, and defense contractors.

02:40:22.000 The money would go into circulation, but then it would get soaked up by everybody buying these new, much more expensive homes.

02:40:29.000 And on paper, it looked like people were getting rich, but they're still in the same $40,000 home their parents had with three bedrooms, two baths, and a leaky roof.

02:40:37.000 It's the same physical assets, it just costs a lot more.

02:40:41.000 Listen, four bedroom houses that aren't in dangerous neighborhoods are $600,000 in this town.

02:40:48.000 I mean, just ten years ago, those houses were $150,000.

02:40:51.000 It is, and see that jump up in price is what's been soaking up the surplus money that has been printed up to pay for the wars.

02:40:59.000 But now that the real estate market has busted, and that cash sink is no longer working, now we're going to see all that extra money chasing too few goods and services, and we're going to start to see prices really skyrocket, and inflation's going to get out of control.

02:41:12.000 And generally, that's what the rule's been about two years for just maniac inflationary printing to be felt, and then it eases in.

02:41:22.000 But this has been so overboard, I mean, even the easing in is going to be like getting hit in the head with a jackhammer.

02:41:27.000 It absolutely is, and we're seeing so many foreclosures around here.

02:41:31.000 I live in a pretty good neighborhood here in Hawaii.

02:41:33.000 We've got a house up the street, nice house, gone into foreclosure.

02:41:36.000 I've got friends on the mainland who say there are three foreclosures just on the street where she lives, and it's really going crazy.

02:41:43.000 We're starting to see TV commercials here where they're saying, we have foreclosed homes for you to buy real, real cheap.

02:41:50.000 All you have to do is pay the outstanding balance.

02:41:52.000 You know, it's still a lot of money, but when you see them advertising foreclosure sales on TV, you know it's getting really bad out there.

02:42:00.000 But meanwhile, there's still a whole other layer of news going, everything's wonderful!

02:42:04.000 The war on terror is fabulous!

02:42:06.000 No warrants to spy is good!

02:42:09.000 Police in black ski masks is fun!

02:42:11.000 You know, uh, Prozac and Ritalin with 20% of the population on it!

02:42:15.000 CPS snatching kids everywhere!

02:42:17.000 Illegal aliens running all over us! 1.00

02:42:19.000 It's wonderful!

02:42:20.000 Huge TB, uh, hospitals having to be set up!

02:42:24.000 Oh, it's good!

02:42:25.000 Flesh eating back, I mean, it's, you know.

02:42:27.000 There was a wonderful quote from Jay Leno the other night.

02:42:29.000 He said, the big story in Washington, D.C.

02:42:31.000 is not the war in Iraq, not Alberto Gonzales lying to Congress, not healthcare.

02:42:35.000 The big story everyone's talking about is Hillary Clinton showing a little cleavage. 1.00

02:42:39.000 The United States is 231 years old, but apparently the media is only 13.

02:42:44.000 Exactly!

02:42:44.000 But they've also had studies out now that people don't want to see Paris Hilton.

02:42:48.000 They don't want to see the latest O.J.

02:42:51.000 or Anna Nicole Schmitz, but the media force feeds it. 0.96

02:42:55.000 Yeah, because that's the media's job to keep everybody dazzled and distracted.

02:42:59.000 The media today in the United States is fulfilling the same function as the Coliseum filled in Imperial Rome.

02:43:06.000 It keeps the public distracted so they're not paying attention to what Caligula is doing with his sister in the back room.

02:43:11.000 Mike, you've been around a long time.

02:43:13.000 You're a top special effects guy also.

02:43:14.000 We don't get into that, but the point is, you're a successful fellow, smart guy, and you've been around longer than I have.

02:43:20.000 You've seen this.

02:43:21.000 How bad do you think it's going to get?

02:43:23.000 Big recession?

02:43:24.000 Huge recession?

02:43:25.000 Depression that they'll call a recession?

02:43:29.000 What's going to happen?

02:43:31.000 I think we're in for a very, very hard time.

02:43:34.000 I don't know what they'll call it, because the labels sort of get made up based on political necessity at the time.

02:43:40.000 But because of the over-leveraging and the derivatives situation, I think what we've started to see already in the hedge funds is going to start spreading to a lot of other mutuals and various other investment packages.

02:43:56.000 And we're going to see a lot of people who've worked their entire lives to build themselves a good retirement, and to build equity in their home, and they're just going to have to sit there and watch it dissolve away before their very, very eyes.

02:44:06.000 And the message I want to get out to all of these people who are starting to deal with this and who will deal with this, it is not your fault.

02:44:14.000 You didn't make bad choices.

02:44:16.000 You did what you were supposed to do.

02:44:18.000 You worked hard.

02:44:18.000 This has been engineered for you to keep you so poor you cannot quit working, which is the real goal of capitalism here.

02:44:27.000 And this is not free market, this is crony capitalism, or corporatism, fascism, whatever you want to call it.

02:44:33.000 Understand folks, they brag they engineered the 29 crash.

02:44:35.000 All I know is the numbers we're talking about here are astronomically worse.

02:44:40.000 Okay, and we're at a higher private debt ratio than the depth of the depression in November of 33, and we passed that line in January of this year, eight months ago.

02:44:50.000 So what I want everybody to understand here is that they will not drop the hammer completely on us if we blame them, but if we let them spin it in a hundred news specials that we're a bunch of pig people and we deserve this, And to a small extent, you know, certainly we played along with it, but no, Mike is right.

02:45:08.000 This is engineering.

02:45:11.000 They'll burn a few brokers and a few more Martha Stewart's, but that is just, that is icing on the cake in the propaganda, Mike.

02:45:19.000 Well, you know, we're already starting to see that because there have already been a couple of news stories put out attempting to say that the reason the bridge collapsed in Minneapolis is because Americans were unwilling to spend the extra highway taxes to take care of our roads.

02:45:33.000 And hand them over to foreign corporations! 0.98

02:45:35.000 Yes.

02:45:36.000 No mention of the half trillion dollars going into Iraq.

02:45:40.000 No mention of 30 billion going to Israel to get their permission to sell airplanes to Saudi Arabia.

02:45:46.000 No mention whatsoever of the fact that we have already been paying high taxes, supposedly to take care of our own country, only to see the money taken out.

02:45:55.000 It's amazing.

02:45:56.000 We've got to take some calls.

02:45:57.000 It's just amazing.

02:45:59.000 This is incredible.

02:46:00.000 These are the times that try people's souls.

02:46:02.000 This is not a boring time to be alive.

02:46:04.000 Ron in New York wanted to call in about a very draconian gun bill.

02:46:08.000 Another one?

02:46:08.000 I mean, I can't even keep track of it anymore.

02:46:11.000 Ron's always a good source.

02:46:13.000 Retired police officers, I wanted to trust his call.

02:46:16.000 Tell me what's going on real fast, Ron.

02:46:18.000 Okay, this is what happened in the Senate Judiciary Committee last Thursday afternoon.

02:46:22.000 They took the bill, which you and your audience may know as H.R.

02:46:26.000 2640, they metamorphosized it for the third time.

02:46:29.000 It's the trick that they're using to enable deception on the bill.

02:46:33.000 They merged it with several other unrelated bills, and in fact, they're going to renumber the bill Uh, it will be given an S designation.

02:46:42.000 They did this as they were on the cusp of going out the door for vacation to gum up the works, so that- Now they already passed one gun control bill, and then now they've got another one?

02:46:51.000 They metamorphosized that bill.

02:46:52.000 This is the second metamorphosis of that bill, because every time the public gets wise to what they're doing, they take another skip and a jump and re-change it.

02:47:01.000 Now what they've done is they've taken 2640, They're using stealth, almost clandestine methods of legislating to do this.

02:47:08.000 Alright?

02:47:09.000 In fact, there's never been one sentence or word of debate about this.

02:47:12.000 Well, they said the immigration bill was secret, remember?

02:47:14.000 Yeah, well, this is even better than that, because most people don't know what's going on, because the methods they're doing are really, really, I spy legislating.

02:47:22.000 Now, what they've done is they've taken 2640, which was a horrible bill, and they may have, at least this is cursory, tentative information that I've gotten, Kicked it up a notch and made it worse to where they may have added, I believe, some clauses in the bill that was already a horrible bill.

02:47:38.000 What's the bill number right now?

02:47:40.000 It hasn't been... They're using trickery.

02:47:42.000 They haven't assigned a bill number to it.

02:47:44.000 This is all fraud.

02:47:45.000 This is all legislative fraud to keep you in the dark about it.

02:47:48.000 They're trying to fast-track this bill.

02:47:50.000 They don't even want there to be debate on it.

02:47:52.000 I know the title of the bill if you want to know that.

02:47:54.000 Give it to us.

02:47:55.000 It will be called the School Safety and Law Enforcement In the Law Enforcement Improvement Act.

02:48:04.000 The School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act.

02:48:08.000 Tell you what Mike, write me up a blurb on email and send it to Aaron at InfoWars.com 2 ways and we'll get it up and I'll call more frequently.

02:48:15.000 I always love hearing from you.

02:48:17.000 Mike Rivera, they really have circled the wagons and I think they're going to accelerate their fall.

02:48:22.000 What do you think?

02:48:24.000 Yeah, I think they're going to accelerate their fall, but before that, they're going to try and accelerate their establishment of a true dictatorship in this country.

02:48:31.000 And grabbing the guns has to be a high priority, and what that signals is, they know they're going to push us to the point where a violent revolution seems like the best option.

02:48:40.000 And that tells us we have not seen the worst of the abuses yet.

02:48:43.000 Oh my God, it's going to be, it's going to be a bad one.

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02:51:48.000 Folks, I've got a load of phone lines.

02:51:49.000 We've got five minutes left.

02:51:50.000 I'm going to try to jam Wendy and Mike and Ryan, maybe, and all these others.

02:51:55.000 I have to get Mike up more often than once a month and for more than 45 minutes.

02:52:02.000 Before I go back to Mike Rivero, Keep playing.

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02:53:01.000 Do not wait.

02:53:03.000 Mike Rivero, you know, I haven't had enough time.

02:53:06.000 I hope you'll come on next week again for a full hour, because I want to be able to get to all these calls.

02:53:09.000 Let's jam in one right now.

02:53:11.000 Wendy in New York, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:53:13.000 Hi.

02:53:14.000 Hello, go ahead.

02:53:16.000 Hi, I just wanted to call and tell you that yesterday, I'm a 9-1-1 activist, I organized for Rochester 9-11 Truth and yesterday I was arrested at a protest.

02:53:27.000 My camera was confiscated and everyone in the crowd was harassed.

02:53:34.000 As far as cameras, they were searching cars for cameras.

02:53:36.000 They were grabbing cameras out of media.

02:53:39.000 I had a trespass on and I was the only one that got their camera confiscated.

02:53:44.000 So now with the new, can't film but for 30 minutes, they were already telling us we couldn't film before, now they're just snatching and grabbing everything.

02:53:51.000 Yes, I was told that if I didn't identify the other people in the crowd taking pictures I'd be arrested and my camera would be confiscated, which I rely on.

02:54:00.000 And so they did that, they went ahead and took it and arrested me, charged with trespassing.

02:54:06.000 Where were you when they charged you with trespassing?

02:54:09.000 Um, I was on the property, I was on private property, but the problem was I was confronting Randy, I was going in to protest Randy Coole, who is our congressman.

02:54:21.000 And his office is on private property.

02:54:24.000 No, no, I understand.

02:54:25.000 Well, look, they're already on.

02:54:26.000 Listen, I need to get your name, your info.

02:54:28.000 I need to give you to Aaron Dykes so we can get a blurb up on JonesReport.com about this.

02:54:35.000 We don't screen calls because we're all about the First Amendment, but it's also a problem because if I'd have known this, I'd have had you on 30 minutes ago when you first started holding.

02:54:43.000 And I'm sorry to all the callers.

02:54:44.000 Because of this, we're now out of time.

02:54:46.000 Call me back tomorrow.

02:54:47.000 Mike, Ryan, Andrew and others will get to you first in line.

02:54:51.000 But stay there, Wendy, because I want to get your name and number and contact info.

02:54:55.000 But Mike Rivera, we're seeing more and more of this, aren't we?

02:54:58.000 Yeah, we are, and I think the immediate solution is to always buy really cheap and expensive cameras you can live without when you're going to go to film at these events.

02:55:05.000 But yeah, it's an indication that the government knows that these kind of stories get out on the Internet, and they can't block the Internet, so they're going to just try and block the citizen investigators and reporters from videotaping these events.

02:55:19.000 What happens is, they get multiple generation old cameras that are still great, but nobody wants them.

02:55:24.000 You can buy a one chip camera from 3 or 4 years ago for like $50 with the chargers and batteries off eBay.

02:55:32.000 Wendy, stay there. 0.51

02:55:33.000 I'm going to get your info at the end of the show.

02:55:34.000 Mike, go ahead and continue commenting.

02:55:36.000 Basically, that's it.

02:55:37.000 If you're going to be covering these stories, then please send in your videos to Alex Jones and to me.

02:55:41.000 We'll put them up there.

02:55:42.000 But use an inexpensive camera because, yes, the police are confiscating and in some cases they're just smashing cameras.

02:55:50.000 How do you think cops got to the point, well I've seen them on the street do it, where we're bad to have cameras but they're putting cameras on us?

02:55:58.000 Do those cops have any idea what's going to happen to their bank accounts and everything else, that they're going to get nailed by the same people?

02:56:08.000 They're probably convinced that if they go along with it that they will not be touched.

02:56:12.000 You know, it's like that line from the movie Blade Runners.

02:56:14.000 There's cops and then there's the little people.

02:56:16.000 And I think there's a lot of that attitude that's starting to take hold inside law enforcement.

02:56:20.000 I agree, Mike.

02:56:21.000 God bless you.

02:56:22.000 We'll talk to you soon.

Alex Jones Show - August 07, 2007

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