Alex Jones Show - 20070809_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 GCN Radio Network.

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:12.000 You want answers?

00:00:13.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 Well, I remember interviewing him about 12 years I remember interviewing him about 12 years ago, and I've interviewed him off and on since then.

00:00:45.000 But it's been a couple of years since I've had him on, and he's a retired FBI agent.

00:00:50.000 He was the head of the L.A.

00:00:51.000 sector, also the head of the Dallas sector.

00:00:54.000 He'll be joining us coming up in the second hour.

00:00:57.000 He's Ted Gunderson.

00:00:59.000 He'll talk about a host of issues, government-sponsored terror, government child kidnapping rings, and much, much more.

00:01:07.000 That is... Coming up in the second hour today, we'll also have open phones for that guest.

00:01:19.000 Here we are, my friends.

00:01:21.000 It is the ninth day of August 2000.

00:01:24.000 And seven, and here is the mighty stack of news that I have in front of me, AT&T censor anti-Bush lyrics during live broadcasts.

00:01:34.000 This is the level of control and censorship in place over broadcast TV and internet transmissions, because AT&T is the National Security Agency.

00:01:45.000 They are the NSA.

00:01:49.000 9-1-1 Commission ignored firefighters' accounts of explosions inside WTC7, WeAreAtChange.org, and the Loose Change crew together did an interview with another New York City firefighter who hasn't yet spoken out, now has, and it's a 49-minute interview.

00:02:08.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:02:09.000 We're going to read over some of the excerpts of the interview.

00:02:12.000 That's important news as the 9-11 cover-up continues to implode in on itself.

00:02:20.000 The biggest, one of the biggest French banks has frozen its accounts and basically shut down.

00:02:26.000 That's from Bloomberg Financial.

00:02:28.000 Also, world stocks slide on fresh U.S.

00:02:31.000 credit concerns.

00:02:32.000 Another headline, stocks plunge on rising credit anxiety.

00:02:37.000 Really two ways for saying the same thing.

00:02:40.000 Modern living to blame for cancer epidemic. 1.00

00:02:43.000 Also all the loving mercury in your shots.

00:02:46.000 And all those delicious little cancer viruses they lovingly dole out.

00:02:50.000 I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.

00:02:54.000 Also, potential flaw is found in design of fallen bridge.

00:03:01.000 Now I thought it was because we didn't hand all of our roads over to foreign corporations.

00:03:05.000 Because I've been hearing since Saturday.

00:03:08.000 We predicted.

00:03:08.000 It wasn't hard to predict they'd be saying it was because we hadn't handed them all over to foreign multinationals, but they're still telling us that's the answer.

00:03:16.000 If your child has a cold, just mail some money to the Bank of England or maybe hand over your backyard to a foreign company and it'll fix the cold.

00:03:28.000 Same thing with the bridge, but a lot of evidence and even some local witnesses said they saw a big plume of smoke and An explosion.

00:03:34.000 Our witness is saying, and I haven't seen video of it actually happening, seen video of it collapsing.

00:03:42.000 But some are saying that the bridge was blown up.

00:03:44.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:03:45.000 They were doing work on it and they were saying the bridge was already in danger.

00:03:50.000 So I just don't know.

00:03:51.000 But what we do know is they're using it to push for handing it over to foreign corporations and foreign companies.

00:03:58.000 But now it turns out potential flaw is found in the design of fallen bridge.

00:04:03.000 Well, they're saying 70,000 plus bridges and trestles are on the verge of collapsing.

00:04:08.000 And I've told you, every week we see something collapse.

00:04:10.000 I mean, it's just usually not some gigantic six-lane highway bridge over the Mississippi River with a bunch of commuters on it.

00:04:19.000 So we'll lug over that.

00:04:20.000 Also, homeowner arrested after the burglar he confronted falls 30 feet.

00:04:26.000 Now, again, I've become desensitized to this.

00:04:30.000 Every few weeks I see an article in England.

00:04:32.000 Now they're starting this here though, too. 0.99

00:04:35.000 Where somebody can come in and be raping your wife and you stab them with a butcher knife. 1.00

00:04:41.000 They get your house and you go to prison. 0.99

00:04:45.000 Well, it doesn't matter. 1.00

00:04:46.000 Even if I live in England, you come in my house, I'm going to kill you with my bare hands. 1.00

00:04:50.000 You can't have guns over there, but I will kill you with my bare hands. 1.00

00:04:53.000 I will tear your head off. 1.00

00:04:55.000 We'll be right back and talk about that, too. 0.99

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00:08:01.000 Big Brother. Mainstream media.

00:08:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:12.000 You want answers?

00:08:13.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:23.000 We are now into this first hour of transmission, ninth day of August.

00:08:40.000 You know, before I get into the slow but deliberate slide of the world economy into the jaws of the international banking cartel and the fact that, what, in now at least 15 states, whites are the minority but will still be called the majority and treated as such. 0.66

00:09:02.000 Foreigners are now the majority in at least six states.

00:09:06.000 All part of the globalist plan.

00:09:08.000 Before I get into all of that, let's just have some fun.

00:09:16.000 The video of this is up on prisonplanet.com and it's interesting for several different reasons.

00:09:21.000 A, video technology has gotten so inexpensive, computing power has gotten so Inexpensive and there's such a large cadre of people who are self-taught now and there's so many programs available that photoshopping and faking video and manipulating video to where it's very hard to tell it's fake is becoming more and more commonplace.

00:09:49.000 For those that have seen The Running Man back in the mid-80s, Based on a science fiction novel written in the 60s, you have fake newscasts, fake video.

00:09:59.000 Well, by the time that film was made, they indeed had that technology where it was almost indistinguishable to the human eye, and now it is indistinguishable to the human eye.

00:10:10.000 And the government is creating fake newscasts.

00:10:12.000 They are creating fake video.

00:10:16.000 Now, they always do it under the auspices of a test or a drill.

00:10:22.000 A test or a drill.

00:10:24.000 I remember during the Kosovo attack that I was watching CNN, I'll never forget, and I saw this two separate times when I watched more TV back then, and they said simulation, computer simulation, was very small in the corner of the screen, and it showed a computer-generated Abrams tank driving around in villagers, and it was so crisp

00:10:49.000 That I couldn't tell the difference, though I then saw them air it again an hour later and noticed that the mud coming out from the treads looked a little pixelated.

00:10:58.000 I called CNN because back then they had their newsroom number public, and I said, so what is that?

00:11:03.000 And they said, let me pass you on to somebody.

00:11:05.000 CNN Center in Atlanta.

00:11:08.000 And they admitted that, oh yeah, we're running some video simulations.

00:11:16.000 Now they show simulations all the time where on purpose it looks computer generated and boxy and looks like some type of three dimensional model.

00:11:27.000 Now, you know about the, I kept saying 1.6, that was one purchase done in 2003-2004, so I just tend to rattle off that number.

00:11:36.000 Actually, that year it was over $2 billion, and total, from the numbers we were able to get publicly, and most of this is still secret, it's over $6 billion domestically in fake news.

00:11:49.000 And I don't just mean the fake News packages where they didn't say it was government produced, that they actually paid local TV stations to air.

00:11:56.000 The disinfo is that the stations didn't know.

00:11:58.000 And they just took money to air something they thought was real.

00:12:01.000 No, they knew.

00:12:03.000 But it was also thousands of reporters.

00:12:05.000 You hear about Tommy Franks being on the payroll, you hear about Armstrong Williams, different programs.

00:12:11.000 And you can really learn a lot from this because once they're exposed as government Prevails agents of influence then you can hear exactly what the government script is and martial law is coming after the next attack.

00:12:24.000 It's good We need to have the feds take over education You know just basically federal takeover. 1.00

00:12:31.000 That's what the parrots say now as if we didn't already know that they weren't on the payroll I mean, I've been on Armstrong Williams' show many times as he attacked me and tried to play games and mess with me.

00:12:42.000 I can tell you it was a show right there.

00:12:44.000 I didn't come out on air and say it because, not that I couldn't prove it, but people couldn't handle the truth yet.

00:12:50.000 So I just stuck to what was publicly already admitted.

00:12:56.000 Now, you don't have to buy off your local TV reporter because they've just got a head full of hairspray and they're trying to figure out how many people are going to have sex with tonight and how far they're going to jog so they look good for their neighbors and so they can go to cocktail parties and feel powerful.

00:13:11.000 And they'll just read whatever's off the teleprompter and never ask a question.

00:13:14.000 And then the news is packaged in D.C.

00:13:15.000 or New York or Chicago or L.A.

00:13:18.000 from their head offices and then pumped back to them and they just regurgitate it.

00:13:22.000 I said I was going to have some fun and air a clip.

00:13:25.000 It just made me think this morning, watching this clip, how easy it is for the government to fool people, because this is just some little website superimposed a reporter on the White House Rose Garden lawn asking President Bush about zombies attacking.

00:13:42.000 Of course, it's pure fiction, ladies and gentlemen.

00:13:44.000 We're not saying zombies are really attacking.

00:13:48.000 We're playing a parody here, but they edited Bush in with a video where it looks like it's real.

00:13:57.000 And the reason we haven't done a lot of this ourselves, though we could, is because then it adds to a climate of pretty soon people don't know what's real anymore.

00:14:06.000 Where, even though it's fiction, it kind of runs together with reality.

00:14:11.000 And the same thing is with 24 and all these CSI, all these other shows.

00:14:16.000 You go into suspended disbelief and your brain, after just a few minutes, is accepting this and acquiescing and taking it in as if it's reality.

00:14:24.000 And you're rooting for the hero who cheats and tortures and kills, and even tortures children.

00:14:30.000 And now they're saying Jack Bauer is going to fight global warming this year and get a global carbon tax to save the children.

00:14:37.000 I mean, this is pure propaganda arm.

00:14:42.000 And for any liberals out there who are still supporting man-made global warming and their quote, solution of global tax, While every manner of environmental degradation goes on pell-mell, Fox News, Fox TV is now... I've seen Fox News say it's real.

00:14:56.000 And again, it's the cartoon network version of propaganda. 0.98

00:14:59.000 It's meant for the brain dead.

00:15:01.000 CNN's meant for a little bit more high-grade, but it's just as bad or worse.

00:15:05.000 MSNBC, CNBC.

00:15:10.000 And I know that the people know it's a lie and a fraud, but even though you consciously know it, you're still not fully grasping and then finding out what the truth is.

00:15:19.000 You know you're being lied to, but you don't know what the truth is.

00:15:21.000 See, just to know something's a lie, to know that that's a fog bank in front of you, doesn't still tell you what's behind the fog.

00:15:28.000 See, that's what we're trying to get you to look for and look at.

00:15:31.000 Because from my limited intellect and perspective, I can't tell you exactly what's behind the fog everywhere planetary-wide.

00:15:38.000 I'm not omniscient.

00:15:40.000 But together, together, we can wherever we're at on the planet find out what's behind the fog.

00:15:46.000 And we can go in mercilessly, without any even prime directive from some central source, and go in and move forward with the liberty revolution of freedom and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit to dehumanization.

00:16:01.000 So here's a three minute little zombie clip On a spoof on Bush's fear-mongering.

00:16:07.000 But this is just from a few weeks ago, folks, where he said, he did say August could be the big month of terror, and we pray that this month elapses without that happening.

00:16:15.000 But here it is.

00:16:18.000 Mr. President, in your recent budget, just to make sure I understand, you're asking for a $50 billion emergency defense supplemental to protect America from zombies.

00:16:30.000 I believe this is the great challenge of the beginning of the 21st century.

00:16:34.000 Zombies.

00:16:35.000 Who eat brains.

00:16:36.000 Just so I know we're on the same page here.

00:16:39.000 That's what they do.

00:16:40.000 That's what they've said they want to do.

00:16:41.000 They have objectives.

00:16:44.000 With all due respect, Mr. President, are you sure this wasn't a movie you saw?

00:16:48.000 I mean, why... Because they're real.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, but why is that a danger to the American people?

00:16:53.000 It's a danger to your children, Jim.

00:16:55.000 Sorry, my name is Barry.

00:16:57.000 Uh, Chen.

00:16:58.000 No, Barry.

00:16:59.000 Ed.

00:17:01.000 It's Barry.

00:17:01.000 Just think of blueberry or strawberry, that way you'll always remember it.

00:17:04.000 Like I said, they are a direct threat to the United States, and I'm going to keep talking about it.

00:17:10.000 The zombies.

00:17:11.000 You say they're eating our brains. 0.55

00:17:13.000 They need to be eating US beef. 0.97

00:17:16.000 It's good for them.

00:17:18.000 They'll like it.

00:17:19.000 For the sake of argument, even in the movies, zombies seem to move really, really slowly.

00:17:25.000 Why couldn't we just outrun them?

00:17:28.000 If we leave, they follow us.

00:17:30.000 Right.

00:17:31.000 But really slowly.

00:17:33.000 I mean, shouldn't we be focusing more on Bin Laden? 0.83

00:17:36.000 They're dangerous.

00:17:37.000 And I can't put it any more plainly, they're dangerous.

00:17:41.000 Right.

00:17:42.000 Does this explain reports that you attacked people who were on the White House tour?

00:17:48.000 I knew this was going to be an explosive issue.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, you removed their heads.

00:17:53.000 I wanted to remove even more.

00:17:56.000 Over the months, you've decapitated 11 tourists.

00:17:59.000 You now say we're all zombies.

00:18:01.000 I thought it was interesting how you started your question.

00:18:04.000 Over the months, I think you said.

00:18:05.000 Over the last months.

00:18:07.000 Forget the time period.

00:18:08.000 It's not the time span the concern was.

00:18:09.000 Let me finish, please, sir.

00:18:11.000 And I'll roll here.

00:18:12.000 And, uh, they have made it abundantly clear what they want.

00:18:16.000 Human brains. 0.99

00:18:16.000 Because you see, What they're going to try to do is kill as many innocent people as they can. 0.99

00:18:21.000 You're claiming the heat of the moon causes the dead to rise from their graves and walk among us?

00:18:28.000 And so, yeah, it could be a bloody, it could be a very difficult August, and I fully understand.

00:18:32.000 Is there any proof, any scientific evidence of an actual biological difference between these zombies and, say, just slow-moving tourists?

00:18:45.000 Sir?

00:18:46.000 They cut to Dick Cheney, Mr. President.

00:18:49.000 They are a threat to your children, David. 0.94

00:18:53.000 How exactly can we recognize one of these zombies?

00:18:57.000 Is it their... their pallid complexion?

00:19:01.000 The lizard-like stare?

00:19:02.000 How about their general overall creepiness?

00:19:08.000 Ha ha ha!

00:19:09.000 And it cuts to Dick Cheney there, literally at the Rose Garden, standing off in the distance, watching Bush give the speech.

00:19:16.000 Lizard-like stare.

00:19:18.000 Heaven help us.

00:19:21.000 But the reason we played that is that the mainstream news, a lot of what they're reporting is just as legitimate.

00:19:28.000 The Shiites are not backing Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

00:19:32.000 That's the opposite group. 1.00

00:19:34.000 And it's just as ridiculous as zombies. 0.89

00:19:38.000 I mean, I go on the message board and I see the people on Dig and stuff attacking us, and they gotta be sent, Tom. 0.97

00:19:44.000 I mean, it's just the same thing.

00:19:45.000 Tinfoil hat, you wanna be a Muslim and worship the Muslims. 1.00

00:19:50.000 And let the Muslims get us. 1.00

00:19:52.000 Then you say, well, why is Bush bringing so many Muslims in?

00:19:55.000 And they just keep saying, tinfoil hat, tinfoil hat, tinfoil hat.

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00:24:25.000 Start questioning why there's so many police.

00:24:28.000 Start questioning why there's so many illegal aliens running around waving foreign flags. 0.98

00:24:34.000 Start questioning why your dollar's not worth as much.

00:24:36.000 Start questioning everything that's happening.

00:24:40.000 And then question again.

00:24:42.000 Because believe me, you're gonna find something out you don't like.

00:24:45.000 All I've been doing now for 15 years, plus since I woke up, I guess longer than that, and 12 plus years on air, is questioning and then finding answers.

00:24:57.000 Speaking of manipulation of media, AT&T censors anti-Bush lyrics during live webcasts.

00:25:06.000 This is out of the Chicago Tribune today.

00:25:10.000 A live internet broadcast of Pearl Jam's performance at Chicago's Lollapalooza Music Festival Sunday went off without a hitch until singer Eddie Vedder criticized President Bush.

00:25:20.000 And folks, they had people buy the switch.

00:25:23.000 Even for the web.

00:25:26.000 Lyrics critical, the President did not make it past editors of the show's webcast.

00:25:31.000 The band complained Wednesday on its website.

00:25:34.000 And AT&T admits they censored it.

00:25:38.000 What did Eddie Vedder say?

00:25:40.000 The performance sponsored by AT&T Incorporated and carried on AT&T's Blue Room site omitted the lyrics George Bush leave this world alone and George Bush find yourself another home as part of a version of the song Daughter according to Pearl Jam website.

00:26:00.000 Fans had complained to the band about the possible censorship.

00:26:04.000 The site said, when asked about the missing performance, AT&T informed Lollapalooza that portions of the show were in fact missing from the webcast and that their content manager had made a mistake in cutting them.

00:26:18.000 Kind of like cops will walk up to you when you're on the sidewalk in New York and just grab your head and slam you right in the wall and go, give me that camera and just go And smash it!

00:26:28.000 And literally, just literally, America just starts bleeding to death when they do it.

00:26:32.000 And they just, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

00:26:34.000 Yes!

00:26:35.000 Oh, it's so good!

00:26:37.000 Oh, you're flying an upside down flag! 0.99

00:26:39.000 I'm gonna beat you up and arrest you! 0.99

00:26:41.000 Ha ha ha! 0.99

00:26:43.000 Oh, it's so good!

00:26:44.000 I mean, that is their attitude.

00:26:48.000 And then when they, when it comes out in the news they've done things like this, and when I was there in 2004, folks, I mean, cops would come up to American spectator reporters.

00:26:56.000 And I make that point because I mean pro-Bush people.

00:26:59.000 AP reporters.

00:27:01.000 I interviewed and then saw a video that was shot by another person.

00:27:04.000 His stuff was confiscated.

00:27:06.000 A national talk show host for Pacifica.

00:27:09.000 I mean, all in like eight big cities.

00:27:12.000 And he was just there recording what was going on.

00:27:15.000 And they just walked right over, grabbed him, slammed him to the ground, and took all his audio recording equipment, his camera, and all the little bubble chips, all the little Memory sticks, and just took him to jail, never gave him back.

00:27:31.000 That's what they did.

00:27:32.000 And you've got to experience the tyranny, folks.

00:27:36.000 That is so anti-America.

00:27:39.000 It's how they operate.

00:27:39.000 That's what they do.

00:27:42.000 And just to let you know, tyranny is getting closer and closer.

00:27:45.000 And Bush can punch one button.

00:27:48.000 When Hillary gets in, she can punch one button. 1.00

00:27:50.000 If the Ron Paul revolution doesn't succeed, either way we win, because the info gets out.

00:27:56.000 They come in, they've got every radio and TV station, that is every broadcast system, cable, everything wired in under total FEMA control since 1997.

00:28:04.000 All the telecommunications and internet, they have blocking hubs and they can censor and shut down whenever they want, whenever they want.

00:28:11.000 And we just need to be conscious about how far they've gone, the things they've done.

00:28:18.000 And how they're launching regulation on the internet, and taxation on the web, and it's all passing the states right now.

00:28:24.000 It's very close.

00:28:25.000 Well, it failed by two votes in the House last year.

00:28:29.000 Senator Stevens is now about to be indicted.

00:28:31.000 He's in a bunch of trouble for scams in Alaska, but he's still moving forward with censorship of the web this year.

00:28:36.000 Looks like they may get it.

00:28:39.000 I mean, we are in a tooth and nail fight, and if you just wake up and join the fight, we'd win!

00:28:44.000 But I mean, look, there's a minority of us who are on the field fighting against overwhelming odds, and we're having victories.

00:28:54.000 Because we're fighting for our lives.

00:28:55.000 We're fighting for survival.

00:28:56.000 We're fighting for liberty.

00:28:58.000 So we're fighting like hellcats.

00:29:00.000 You, as I said, some of you out there can still spend 5, 6, 7, 8 hours acting cool a day.

00:29:07.000 But you need to spend a few other hours a day Fighting the New World Order.

00:29:13.000 It is so important right now.

00:29:15.000 I mean, we're on the edge of total financial collapse and depression.

00:29:19.000 And that's just not me saying.

00:29:20.000 That's top banks, top mortgage lenders, governments.

00:29:24.000 We're on the verge of martial law.

00:29:25.000 The President has declared himself dictator.

00:29:28.000 That's mainstream.

00:29:30.000 We're on the verge of nuclear war with Iran, nuking them preemptively. 1.00

00:29:34.000 We're on the verge of so many serious things.

00:29:38.000 This is the time to be frosty.

00:29:40.000 This is the time to be awake.

00:29:42.000 This is the time to be focused.

00:29:44.000 We'll be right back with some of my favorite Johnny Cash.

00:29:47.000 Then we'll take some of your calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:29:53.000 We're on the march.

00:29:54.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:01.000 We think a lot of the world Has the attitude of never getting any love.

00:33:14.000 So I need you to hear this song.

00:33:19.000 Or do you feel the same?

00:33:24.000 Will it make it easier on you now?

00:33:28.000 You've got someone to blame.

00:33:32.000 You said one love, one life, when it's one me.

00:33:41.000 In the night One love, we get to share it It leaves you, baby, if you don't care for it Did I disappoint you?

00:34:09.000 Or leave a bad taste in your mouth?

00:34:15.000 You act like you never had love And you want me to go without Well, it's too late tonight To drag the past out into the light We're one, but we're not the same.

00:34:39.000 We get to carry each other.

00:34:43.000 Carry each other.

00:34:52.000 One.

00:34:53.000 Have you come here for forgiveness?

00:35:01.000 Have you come to raise the dead?

00:35:06.000 Have you come here to play Jesus to the lepers in your head? 1.00

00:35:14.000 Did I ask too much, more than a lot?

00:35:21.000 You gave me nothing now, it's all I got.

00:35:26.000 We're one, but we're not the same.

00:35:29.000 But we hurt each other, and we're doing it again.

00:35:35.000 You say love is a temple, love the higher law.

00:35:39.000 Love is a temple, love the higher law.

00:35:44.000 You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl.

00:35:48.000 And I can't be holdin' on to what you've got.

00:35:57.000 When all you've got is hurt.

00:35:59.000 One love.

00:36:00.000 One blood.

00:36:00.000 One life.

00:36:01.000 You've got to do what you should.

00:36:05.000 One life with each other.

00:36:07.000 Sister.

00:36:07.000 Brothers.

00:36:08.000 One life.

00:36:08.000 But we're not the same.

00:36:10.000 One life with each other, sisters, brothers.

00:36:17.000 One life, but we're not the same.

00:36:23.000 We get to carry each other, carry each other one.

00:36:31.000 That's for U2.

00:36:32.000 Lord, Lord,

00:36:45.000 Lord. Lord. Lord, Lord, Lord.

00:37:14.000 And you see that more and more out there, and a lot of these people, folks, Do act like they've never had love.

00:37:22.000 And they want us that have had love to do without.

00:37:25.000 You see, it's their nature. 0.63

00:37:27.000 And that's why the New World Order wants an evil, abusive, corrupt society.

00:37:31.000 Because it creates minions for them. 0.71

00:37:33.000 It creates these damaged type individuals who basically are unconscious.

00:37:42.000 And are even unable to understand truth when they see it right in front of their face. 0.99

00:37:48.000 I want to hit something like a two-by-four upside the head. 0.99

00:37:51.000 Anyways, I was listening to that song the other day on the radio and I thought, you know, I'm going to play that on the show.

00:37:56.000 So there was some of it.

00:37:58.000 Alright, I know I gave the number down.

00:38:00.000 We've got a lot of phone lines here and we're going to go to your calls here in just a second.

00:38:08.000 You know, I've really already said much of what needs to be said about the economy right now.

00:38:12.000 But BNP Freezes Funds as Loan Losses Royal Markets Bloomberg Financial, BNP, SA, France's biggest bank, halted withdrawals from three investment funds because it couldn't fairly value their holdings after U.S.

00:38:34.000 subprime mortgage losses roiled credit markets.

00:38:40.000 The fund has about $1.6 billion And it goes on to say a pedestrian passes at BNP Bank Euros 2.2 billion of assets on August 7th of a declining 20% in less than two weeks.

00:39:00.000 Spokesman Jonathan Mullen said today the bank will stop calculating a net asset value for the funds, which have about a third of their money in subprime securities rated AA or higher.

00:39:14.000 BMP's announcement sent its shares down as much as 5.5%, pulled the benchmark European stock index lower by more than 2% and helped U.S. transactions, Treasuries rally from their first time in four days.

00:39:27.000 Investors are shunning bonds backed by home loans after late mortgage payments by borrowers with poor credit histories rose to the highest level since 2002.

00:39:38.000 So they're running out of private securities right now to rotten U.S.

00:39:43.000 government securities.

00:39:45.000 Which are making, what, four or five percent a year, depending on which time you bought them.

00:39:52.000 Man, this is just amazing.

00:39:55.000 Running from one rotten thing to another, looking for safe harbor.

00:40:01.000 The complete evaporation of liquidity in certain market segments of the U.S.

00:40:06.000 securitization market has made it impossible to value certain assets fairly, regardless of their quality or credit rating.

00:40:13.000 I mean, that means that The other shoe is dropping.

00:40:18.000 It means that, I mean, you could never rate them fairly.

00:40:21.000 They were all leveraged 10, 20, 30, 40 times.

00:40:26.000 It was always a fraud.

00:40:27.000 I mean, they were at fraudulent index levels.

00:40:31.000 The indexes were fraudulent in their price earnings ratios versus what securities and stocks and commodities have been trading at.

00:40:44.000 For 20, 30, 40 years they've been out of whack.

00:40:46.000 I mean, it just gets worse and worse.

00:40:48.000 Now it's Alice in Wonderland, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Pop the Magic Dragon, Rumpelstiltskin, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, Greek God level. 0.97

00:41:02.000 I mean, I don't even, and again, you try to talk to a Yappie, they don't even know what that means. 1.00

00:41:06.000 They just say, stock market $13,200.

00:41:08.000 Stock market was $11,000.

00:41:13.000 A couple years ago.

00:41:14.000 And they just say, hire.

00:41:15.000 Don't you understand that?

00:41:17.000 And I go, don't you understand they've devalued the currency.

00:41:20.000 TWIT.

00:41:21.000 And they say, no I don't.

00:41:22.000 I just know I'm wearing an Izod shirt and I've got golf clubs in the back of my Beamer.

00:41:28.000 And people think I'm cool.

00:41:31.000 And I'm like, yes, but if you would actually get involved in fighting the New World Order, you could save your hind end and mine too.

00:41:37.000 We've got to work together.

00:41:38.000 And they just giggle and laugh and literally just start skittering like monkeys or something.

00:41:43.000 Tittering and skittering and hooping and... But don't worry, they're going to find out real soon how far it's dropped.

00:41:56.000 Basically, they've thrown us off a 200 foot cliff.

00:42:00.000 Sometimes you survive those drops.

00:42:03.000 And me, I'm trying to get my legs springing beneath me.

00:42:05.000 I'm trying to make sure I just break my legs and my hips.

00:42:10.000 And instead of breaking my head and dying, and the yuppies are in a nosedive, diving downwards, smiling and laughing, and I'm going, you might try to flip around right side up and just break your legs there, Buster Boy.

00:42:23.000 And they're just giggling, going, whoo, isn't this fun, whoo!

00:42:26.000 And just a minute, they're going to try to pull their ripcord and find out they're on a parachute.

00:42:33.000 And I'm just like going, oh man, you ever been in a really bad car wreck and right before you fly off an embankment into a bunch of oak trees or right before some big truck, the Mack truck slams into you?

00:42:43.000 My dad got hit by a Mack truck one time, he said it was like slow motion.

00:42:47.000 A Zales Diamonds Mack truck ran a red light and almost killed my dad.

00:42:52.000 But anyways, he said it was like slow motion.

00:42:56.000 Just watching that big old truck come through there and hit him.

00:42:59.000 It's kind of like that.

00:42:59.000 I'm sitting here in slow motion.

00:43:01.000 I mean, literally, everything had been accelerating and going real fast.

00:43:03.000 Last few months, though, things have kind of slowed down a little bit around here, because I'm kind of going, oh boy, this is going to hurt.

00:43:08.000 This is going to hurt bad.

00:43:09.000 I had a tornado come out of nowhere, what, a year and a half ago, out by Stonewall, right before Johnson City.

00:43:21.000 State police informed us that a tornado had come across.

00:43:23.000 It had torn up some barns.

00:43:25.000 We hadn't noticed.

00:43:26.000 We hadn't noticed a tornado came by.

00:43:29.000 And knocked me off about a 30 foot embankment, and then we flipped around, hit an oak tree, flew through a fence, and rammed into a bunch.

00:43:34.000 And it happened all in about five seconds.

00:43:35.000 It seemed like a minute or two.

00:43:39.000 And it's that same feeling, before we hit those oak trees.

00:43:44.000 By the grace of God, we hit butt backwards, or the cop, the police said we'd have been dead, me and my dad.

00:43:51.000 He still got a concussion, and I got one, but I've had so many, I just kind of felt like I'd drunk a few beers.

00:43:58.000 Uh, but, uh, he spent the night throwing up, but that's better than dying.

00:44:02.000 I guess throwing up and crawling around on the floor, mom, he said.

00:44:07.000 But, uh, it's kind of like that.

00:44:11.000 Kind of like when I was flying off that cliff with that Tahoe butt backwards towards those oak trees at the bottom.

00:44:18.000 Crushed about half the car in.

00:44:21.000 And again, I don't love money, but I do love what it's able to do, and that's hire more webmasters, put up bigger websites, get better bandwidth, make films, pay my employees, and maybe have a little bit of money to go on a vacation once or twice a year to spend time with my family.

00:44:40.000 And I realize that half of what I have, my meager savings, is devalued.

00:44:46.000 Half of it's gone.

00:44:47.000 It's like somebody went into my children's two savings accounts and took more than half their money.

00:44:56.000 And a little bit of money I got in two checking accounts has been devalued.

00:44:58.000 And you know what?

00:45:01.000 I said I'd go to your calls and I just end up talking about this every day now because it's such a big deal.

00:45:08.000 It's such a big deal.

00:45:10.000 And they've done this.

00:45:11.000 They announced it.

00:45:12.000 They were going to do it five years ago.

00:45:14.000 And they did it.

00:45:16.000 And they've done it to us now, and when they finally announce how bad it is, it's going to be all over TV, and I'll be at the local restaurant, or I'll be walking down the street, or I'll be at the bank, and I'll have to hear know-it-alls in their prep outfits repeating what they heard on Hardball, or repeating what Kramer said, or repeating what O'Reilly said about why it happened, and boy, I hope they send those fund managers to jail.

00:45:39.000 They caused it all.

00:45:40.000 And I just... 1.00

00:45:43.000 It's a mixture of feeling sorry for them and also wanting to slap them upside the head. 0.99

00:45:49.000 Thank you. 0.91

00:45:50.000 Because this stuff wasn't hard to figure out.

00:45:56.000 Alright, I'm done talking about it.

00:45:57.000 I've got a world stock slide on fresh U.S.

00:46:00.000 credit concerns.

00:46:03.000 This is out of AP.

00:46:06.000 Global equities turned sharply lower Thursday, led by heavy falls to leading European stock markets as worries resurfaced about a weak U.S.

00:46:14.000 subprime mortgage sector.

00:46:16.000 It's not that, it's now jumbo loans and standard loans.

00:46:20.000 That's over $400,000 loan.

00:46:24.000 Nearing the halfway stage, London's FTSE 100 index of leading blue chip shares slid 1.6%.

00:46:33.000 Frankfurt's DAX 30 shed 1.46.

00:46:36.000 The BNP died 3.17.

00:46:45.000 82.74 in Paris.

00:46:48.000 Bank of England Governor Marvin King said the credit problems being experienced in the U.S.

00:46:53.000 did not amount to an international crisis.

00:46:59.000 Yeah, just a crisis here.

00:47:01.000 But then, uh, The biggest bank in France clamped down today.

00:47:11.000 Later I'm going to get into modern living to blame for cancer epidemic.

00:47:14.000 That's the headline.

00:47:15.000 Homeowner arrested after the burglar he confronted fell out a window.

00:47:20.000 We're going to go over that right now.

00:47:21.000 Let's just get to your calls as promised here.

00:47:22.000 Oh my gosh.

00:47:25.000 Get all my call lists screwed up here as usual.

00:47:29.000 Who's up first here?

00:47:31.000 Will in Texas, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:47:34.000 Hi Alex, first time caller, been with you since 1999.

00:47:38.000 Ever since I first, you know, saw America destroyed by design.

00:47:44.000 I wanted to share with you and the listeners a story that just happened to me yesterday.

00:47:50.000 Generally as a rule, I sit here, I have two different websites that I've been working on and... Okay, what happened to you?

00:47:58.000 Well, I went to go try and get a job as more or less an exercise in exerting my constitutional rights.

00:48:07.000 And I ran smack dab.

00:48:08.000 I mean, I want people to understand how easy it is to run into one of these new world order groupies that are implanted in our society all around us.

00:48:20.000 It's not just the people in Washington.

00:48:22.000 It's not just, you know, Bush and company.

00:48:27.000 You can run into these people anywhere you go.

00:48:29.000 Are you kidding?

00:48:30.000 The biggest graduate program they've got at A&M now.

00:48:35.000 is for running spying databases on US citizens.

00:48:40.000 I mean, type in Patriot Act Compliance, and there are thousands of businesses.

00:48:44.000 Everyone's having to comply.

00:48:46.000 They're all reporting on you.

00:48:47.000 Talk about no Fourth Amendment. 1.00

00:48:48.000 Talk about Bush spying domestically.

00:48:51.000 Everything from your prescriptions to your banking, it all goes directly to the government.

00:48:55.000 Exactly.

00:48:55.000 So what happened?

00:48:58.000 An illegal alien didn't have to have an ID, but you had to. 0.99

00:49:01.000 What happened?

00:49:02.000 Well, um, that's exactly the point.

00:49:06.000 Um, I'm working on my first documentary project myself and, um, it's going to be called How to Use Your Constitutional Rights to Create a Mexican.

00:49:16.000 And, um, this story that I'm about to tell you is going to be up on my website, uh, by the end of the day today.

00:49:21.000 Okay, just go ahead and plug it.

00:49:23.000 Just go ahead and plug it.

00:49:25.000 Alright, uh, well, basically what happened was is I went to a, uh, I don't want to name the exact automobile dealership.

00:49:34.000 We're almost out of time, brother.

00:49:35.000 I just want you to get your story out.

00:49:37.000 Right.

00:49:38.000 Well, I ran smack dab into this manager and what I decided I was going to do in any job that I apply for here was that I was not going to use any kind of social slavery number in obtaining this job.

00:49:54.000 And I decided that I was going to give a complete resume.

00:49:59.000 Well, I didn't see any while I was there.

00:50:00.000 of business experience and going all the way back to when I joined the army when I was 17.

00:50:05.000 So there's no doubt there's my complete record.

00:50:07.000 And you said that isn't enough, but you probably had illegal aliens working there. 0.78

00:50:11.000 Well, I didn't see any while I was there.

00:50:14.000 It was a well-to-do kind of automobile dealership that's just about a block of my house.

00:50:19.000 So what happened?

00:50:20.000 Well, when I went in, I put in my application.

00:50:24.000 I filled it out completely.

00:50:25.000 I didn't put down any social security number or anything, or any kind of driver's license.

00:50:31.000 And what did he do?

00:50:32.000 What happened?

00:50:33.000 First thing he says in the interview is, well, we have something in common.

00:50:36.000 We were in the Army.

00:50:38.000 And we started reminiscing a little bit about Fort Hood.

00:50:40.000 And then this guy goes off into going off with the CIA to South Africa to kill little babies back in the early 80s.

00:50:48.000 Well, look, I'm going to be able to give you 60 seconds on the other side to finish your story and plug the website if you want, because I've got to move on to a bunch of other callers as interesting as this is, Will.

00:50:55.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:00.000 I tell you, I'm playing almost exclusively hillbilly music.

00:54:13.000 In 1814 we took a little trip along the Colonel's Jackson down to mighty Mississippi.

00:54:17.000 We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans. 1.00

00:54:23.000 We fired our guns and the British kept a coming. 1.00

00:54:26.000 There wasn't by as many as there was a while ago.

00:54:28.000 We fired once more and they forget to run it.

00:54:31.000 Oh, down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.

00:54:33.000 We looked down a river and we see the British come.

00:54:39.000 And there must have been a hundred of them beating on the drum.

00:54:42.000 They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring.

00:54:44.000 We stood beside our cotton bales and didn't say a thing.

00:54:47.000 We fired our guns and the British kept for coming. 1.00

00:54:50.000 There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.

00:54:53.000 We fired once more and they began to run.

00:54:55.000 Oh, down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.

00:55:00.000 Welcome back.

00:55:02.000 That was a key American development.

00:55:04.000 The British and the French and others began firing at each other at a great distance.

00:55:08.000 Well, then we opened up the swirl guns and really gave them well.

00:55:12.000 We fired our guns.

00:55:13.000 Welcome back.

00:55:14.000 That was a key American development.

00:55:17.000 The British and the French and others, again, firing at each other at a great distance.

00:55:20.000 And your aim, the power of the round, didn't have as much effect.

00:55:28.000 But if you wait until they got up close, devastating effect.

00:55:31.000 it.

00:55:33.000 Now I'm getting off into war history.

00:55:35.000 I really shouldn't be doing that.

00:55:36.000 Okay, well this is all very interesting.

00:55:38.000 I want to read your story.

00:55:39.000 What's the website?

00:55:40.000 Because you've been alluding to it.

00:55:42.000 Just go ahead and get the plug out and finish your story.

00:55:44.000 Yes, sir.

00:55:45.000 It's fortworth911truth.com and it will be posted up there on the main page with a link to the full article.

00:55:52.000 Fantastic.

00:55:53.000 Now in 60 seconds, finish the story.

00:55:56.000 Okay, well, uh, in short, uh, this guy told me that, uh, it started going into his detailed military history after we reminisced about Fort Hood a little bit, and he, and, you know, told me all about how he had gone off to South Africa in the early 80s with the CIA, and, uh, I told him, yeah, that was a really terrible time over there with apartheid still going on and everything, and them necklacing people and putting tires around their necks and, and setting them on fire and stuff.

00:56:21.000 Well, that was the communists that did that.

00:56:24.000 Yeah, but anyway, he just didn't even hear what I said.

00:56:30.000 He started going off about going over there and killing little babies, and he got this glassy look in his eye. 0.99

00:56:38.000 He said killing, but he said, I like to kill babies. 1.00

00:56:41.000 Well, he said killing children. 1.00

00:56:44.000 So I was just disgusted and revolted immediately.

00:56:49.000 And eventually, throughout the course of this interview, me telling him, Uh, trying to inform him about certain things under the law and constitutional rights in the process of this interview.

00:56:59.000 He eventually got so agitated that by the end of the interview, he was practically coming over the desk at me, leaning up over the desk.

00:57:05.000 I thought he was going to come over the desk at me.

00:57:07.000 Listen, I hear you and I appreciate your call, sir.

00:57:10.000 Look, I mean, that's just part of the course.

00:57:12.000 People get damaged by the things they do and they either repent of it or they get to where they like it more and just turn themselves over to it and habitualize it and it's over.

00:57:21.000 And that's a lot of our cops.

00:57:23.000 They've been running checkpoints and taking people to Abu Ghraib in Iraq, and they're coming back to be our gods, be our rulers.

00:57:29.000 From freedom to fascism, I think they call it.

00:57:32.000 Thank you, Will.

00:57:33.000 I wasn't trying to be rude there.

00:57:34.000 I just wanted to get your story out.

00:57:36.000 Let's talk to Anthony in Arizona.

00:57:38.000 Go ahead, Anthony.

00:57:39.000 Hey, Alex.

00:57:40.000 I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller.

00:57:43.000 Um, I've known about this conspiracy to undermine the U.S.

00:57:47.000 government and Constitution all the way back in when I was in high school.

00:57:51.000 Well, it's coming to a head now.

00:57:53.000 Well, you're right about that, and I just want to encourage you for what you're doing because To me, you're the only one really out there that's really putting it out on the line, and a lot of people, you know, there's a segment of people out there that think that you're not, but you are, and I just want to congratulate you on that.

00:58:10.000 Well, you've got to watch most of these patriot groups, and when I say most, probably 50-60%, all they do is nanny about the other patriot groups.

00:58:17.000 That's because a lot of them are COINTELPRO or they've picked up the propaganda of COINTELPRO and NINI.

00:58:22.000 If you notice, we spend about 5% of our time NINI-ing here in minding and sewing, circling and whining and all these losers wonder why they're not effective fighting the New World Order.

00:58:32.000 It's because they spend their time NINI-ing on the telephone and NINI-ing on websites.

00:58:37.000 We spend our time fighting the New World Order. 0.95

00:58:39.000 Stay there Anthony, I'll let you finish up.

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01:00:03.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:05.000 You want answers?

01:00:07.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:08.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:12.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:21.000 Retired FBI agent, section chief, Ted Gonderson, gonna be joining us.

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01:00:36.000 Anthony in Arizona.

01:00:38.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:00:38.000 You got some points you want to make.

01:00:40.000 Okay.

01:00:40.000 The reason why I was calling, like I said, I've known about the conspiracy all the way back in high school.

01:00:45.000 And the book that actually got me, awoke me from, you know, from my sleep was a book written by an attorney in Michigan.

01:00:55.000 Her name is Constance Cumby, and she wrote a book called The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow.

01:01:00.000 And I don't think it's... it's still in print, but you can get it on, you know, if you go on Google.

01:01:04.000 No, no, I've read it.

01:01:05.000 It's all about how the New Age is really a Pentagon movement to bring in all the darker cultism. 0.86

01:01:10.000 Well, what it is, it's actually... it's actually the deep organizations behind everything that you see going on right now.

01:01:16.000 No, it's a good book.

01:01:17.000 I read it about... I probably read that 12 years ago.

01:01:20.000 Yeah, it's a fantastic book because it outlines exactly what they want to do as far as comparison to what the concentration camps that we have now presently with FEMA, the detention centers, because in it she quotes Barbara, was it Barbara Marks Hubbard?

01:01:39.000 Yeah, and they advised Delta Force and the Earth First Battalion, and by the way, that's a Pentagon term, they created all that, not the mainline group Earth First, but the Earth First Battalion, and about how they're the pale horse of the beast, how they're going to bring mass slaughter for Gaia, mm-hmm.

01:01:55.000 Correct, and now when you see what this group... By the way, I have the military training manuals, where they taught them how they were going to do all this for Lucifer, but go ahead.

01:02:03.000 Well, what I'm trying to say is, now you see the global warming thing coming into effect, and all the propaganda mechanisms going into play, and then you say, you know what?

01:02:11.000 This lady was onto something back then.

01:02:13.000 And this conspiracy is now out in the open.

01:02:17.000 A lot of your listeners don't know this.

01:02:19.000 Well, most of them do, but I'm telling you, a lot of people in America are still blind to it.

01:02:23.000 You've got the president at a press conference hinting that something big might happen in August.

01:02:31.000 Now, you know, what does everybody You know, you sit there and you listen to this, and then you say to yourself, either there is a war on terror, and there really are terrorists that threaten our way of life, or there isn't.

01:02:43.000 This is a design.

01:02:44.000 This is a perfect design, where these people are systematically plugging an agenda.

01:02:52.000 And when you put on your website yesterday all the abuses going on since the Patriot Act, on down to the Military Commissions Act, you see a design.

01:03:01.000 People need to wake up!

01:03:04.000 It ain't a game anymore!

01:03:06.000 Well, they're going to find out, and that's why we're going to beat the enemy, because if they do go ahead and go ahead with it, then all the people who didn't listen will remember.

01:03:14.000 And see, that's what we're doing right now.

01:03:16.000 We're putting in stopgap measures, kind of like emergency landmines in the Info War, where a lot of this stuff isn't going to sprout until the heat gets up.

01:03:25.000 And I appreciate your call, sir, and I know, I mean, let me tell you, I'm freaked out.

01:03:29.000 I mean, they're not... These people, Look, I don't say it for hyperbole.

01:03:35.000 I don't say it for a game.

01:03:38.000 Look, people ask why I fight them so hard, why I'm so bold.

01:03:42.000 Because they've sworn to kill us.

01:03:43.000 I mean, you've got to fight back against them.

01:03:47.000 Believe me, people, I wish this wasn't true or I'd be deep sea fishing three or four times a year and scuba diving and hanging out and camping out and have a telescope out looking at the stars at night and I'd be barbecuing and marinating stuff and You know, doing stuff, farting around, folks.

01:04:04.000 That's what I like doing.

01:04:05.000 I mean, I work 16, 17 hours a day.

01:04:05.000 I don't.

01:04:09.000 I went home last night and collapsed at 7 o'clock.

01:04:11.000 I'm just burnt out.

01:04:12.000 I can't do it anymore.

01:04:13.000 I gotta get this endgame done, and then you're gonna not see me work as much for a while.

01:04:16.000 Still look like more than most, but... I, uh... I mean, this is down to the wire.

01:04:22.000 These people, who are in control right now, their daddies, their mommies, their grandpappies, killed 200 million people.

01:04:29.000 And folks, I got them all in books bragging about it.

01:04:32.000 They like it.

01:04:33.000 They respect each other because they've killed. 0.91

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01:04:39.000 Zbigniew Brzezinski is respected.

01:04:42.000 I mean, that's why they respect these guys.

01:04:45.000 Because they have pulled the strings for mass death.

01:04:49.000 To them, this is like a laurel.

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01:07:53.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:08:04.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:09.000 Hey, thanks Alex.

01:08:11.000 I would just like to say two things.

01:08:13.000 Okay, what I did is I backed Ted Gunderson off to 20 after.

01:08:19.000 He'll deal with us in the next hour so we can continue to go to your phone calls here.

01:08:24.000 Let's go to Ethan in Idaho.

01:08:26.000 You're on the air.

01:08:27.000 Welcome.

01:08:29.000 Thanks for holding.

01:08:29.000 Hey, thanks, Alex.

01:08:30.000 I would just like to say two things.

01:08:32.000 First off, I'm 15 years old and we're going to defeat this new world order.

01:08:37.000 And I'd just like to give a plug out to my website here, youthfor911truth.co.nr.

01:08:46.000 And another thing I want to mention is a protest that will be on at 9-11 in Austin, Texas.

01:08:51.000 It will be from noon to dark, and it's at the Texas State Capitol.

01:08:55.000 So if you can't make it in New York, you can make it in Austin.

01:08:58.000 Now, did you organize that?

01:09:00.000 No, I did not, but a friend of mine did.

01:09:02.000 Well, just tell him that the Nassara Act isn't real.

01:09:06.000 All right.

01:09:06.000 Somebody emailed me this banner and it was on 9-11 blogger and it says the Nassara Act.

01:09:13.000 I've been hearing about that for 15 years.

01:09:15.000 There is no secret national reorganization of patriots in the government to save us.

01:09:21.000 It isn't real.

01:09:22.000 All right.

01:09:23.000 And it's just one of those things that floats around that I've always got to go out and explain.

01:09:28.000 I mean, it's like Leo Wanta.

01:09:30.000 It's like any of that stuff.

01:09:31.000 It's made of the same thing as tooth fairy dust.

01:09:35.000 But fantastic, my friend.

01:09:36.000 Yeah, there's going to be demonstrations all over the country on 9-11-07, the 60-year anniversary of the tragic military-industrial complex strike against the American people and the people of the planet.

01:09:48.000 And I hope folks will come out to that.

01:09:49.000 Thank you so much.

01:09:50.000 And I got Luke Rodowski coming on tomorrow.

01:09:52.000 He's spearheading with WeAreChange.org.

01:09:57.000 He approached me months ago about doing something in New York.

01:10:00.000 I know the Luce Chains Crew was planning to do something in D.C., but we twisted their arm into doing it in New York, and we're all doing it in New York.

01:10:08.000 Everybody's converging there, and I would encourage you, if you can, come to New York.

01:10:13.000 But certainly, if you're in Virginia or Texas or anywhere else, please be involved in the other one.

01:10:20.000 Uh, in any of the other ones that are going on.

01:10:21.000 It is so important that we take that day back away from the perpetrators that use it for their own aims.

01:10:29.000 Uh, who's up next in this long list?

01:10:32.000 Kyle in Iowa!

01:10:33.000 Welcome, go ahead!

01:10:35.000 How's it going, Alex?

01:10:36.000 Good, sir.

01:10:37.000 I got, uh, two really, really quick questions, and then one, if you could elaborate.

01:10:41.000 Um, the first one is, I want to go down to the straw poll in support of Mr. Paul, but I won't be able to get down there until 5, and it closes at 6.

01:10:47.000 Will I still be able to vote?

01:10:49.000 Second one is I was listening to an MP3 of you and Jordan Maxwell.

01:10:53.000 You guys were talking about the Schofield Bible and how that's been pretty much twisted and corrupted and that's the Bible I read out of.

01:10:58.000 Could you recommend a better one?

01:11:00.000 Yeah, King James, original King James.

01:11:03.000 Okay, and the last one is what do you know about the Lucifer Project?

01:11:10.000 Kind of stumbled upon it.

01:11:11.000 I don't know a whole lot about it yet, but I was curious if you could elaborate on it.

01:11:14.000 Well, there's three Lucifer projects I know of.

01:11:16.000 Which Lucifer project?

01:11:19.000 The one where they're planning on dropping the... Igniting Jupiter?

01:11:25.000 Well, Saturn, actually.

01:11:26.000 They already did Jupiter, but the Cassini probe, where they got the 202... No, I know, but I mean, I heard that baloney hype then, and it's baloney hype now.

01:11:34.000 First it's going to be Jupiter, then... No.

01:11:36.000 I mean, just because the high-level mason put that in his book, 2001, and then the next book after that, where, you know, the aliens ignite it and create a second sun, that doesn't mean it's real.

01:11:50.000 I mean, just because the Illuminists write about things doesn't mean they're going to do it.

01:11:53.000 So, no, that Lucifer project... I was wondering if you were talking about the UN project, the Lucifer project, or the other Lucifer project in the Pentagon.

01:12:02.000 Okay, okay.

01:12:03.000 Yeah, it just sounded kind of creepy if they're going to try to ignite Saturn and put a second sun in our solar system.

01:12:08.000 That sounded kind of...

01:12:10.000 It's scary, but I just heard about it, so I didn't know it.

01:12:14.000 Yeah, as far as I can tell, it's not true.

01:12:18.000 I appreciate your call.

01:12:19.000 Your phone's really bad, man.

01:12:20.000 I'm going to let you go.

01:12:23.000 Let me try to break this down.

01:12:28.000 Major newspapers have admitted they've built FEMA camps for the American people.

01:12:33.000 Major publications have written about Bush announcing that he is a dictator.

01:12:39.000 And I mean, he really did.

01:12:40.000 He really told Congress, hey, you're not involved in continuity of government anymore.

01:12:46.000 And no, you're not allowed to see the plan.

01:12:46.000 I am.

01:12:49.000 Now, that's it.

01:12:49.000 That's the big enchilada.

01:12:50.000 That's the red balloon going up.

01:12:56.000 What happens is, in our movement, there's a whole genre, the media, dominant media tries to merge the two, of flying saucers and chupacabras and all these other fantastical creatures that sneak around under your bed at night.

01:13:11.000 And fine.

01:13:12.000 I think that's all for good radio.

01:13:13.000 That's interesting.

01:13:16.000 I wish people luck.

01:13:17.000 I hope they enjoy themselves.

01:13:20.000 But let's get one thing straight.

01:13:22.000 My show, this broadcast, He's about what we can prove.

01:13:26.000 When I tell you that they are devaluing the dollar by design, I don't just have mainstream articles and government documents and IMF and World Bank documents.

01:13:34.000 I bring you Joseph Stiglitz, chief economist, former chief economist at World Bank, Nobel Prize winner.

01:13:38.000 I bring you Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, father of ergonomics.

01:13:42.000 I bring you George Humphreys, very successful businessman and degreed economist.

01:13:47.000 I bring you many other economists.

01:13:50.000 See?

01:13:52.000 So when we give a declarative statement, in the past we've been about 95% correct, and believe me, I want to be wrong.

01:13:59.000 You know, I'm totally exhausted from working 16, 17, 18 hours a day, and I went home last night, crashed down on the couch at like 7, you know, ate dinner and just laid down.

01:14:15.000 Woke up about two, worried about the New World Order for about an hour, made myself go back to sleep.

01:14:20.000 The point is, I mean, this is URGENT, folks.

01:14:23.000 I'm waking up in the middle of the night over it.

01:14:26.000 I mean, this, and believe me, I sleep like the dead.

01:14:30.000 You can have three alarm fires going on, and my children can jump up and down on me in the morning trying to get me up, and I'll sleep through it.

01:14:37.000 I mean, I literally sleep like a zombie.

01:14:41.000 I sleep like somebody in a grave, and I've been waking up over things.

01:14:44.000 Everybody can feel it.

01:14:45.000 Everybody knows that we're on the verge of something really big, and it's not wonderful.

01:14:50.000 Something wonderful.

01:14:52.000 Like they say in 2001.

01:14:53.000 Or that's the next 2000.

01:15:00.000 I forget the number.

01:15:02.000 It's not wonderful.

01:15:04.000 Believe me.

01:15:09.000 And it's our job before the New World Order goes into the next really bloody phase of what they're doing.

01:15:17.000 Everything else has just been all... This stuff's been birth pains.

01:15:20.000 It's been setting up the dominoes.

01:15:22.000 It's been rigging the whole system.

01:15:24.000 Setting the table for the feast.

01:15:25.000 And they're rolling free humanity out like a roast hog with an apple in its mouth out of the table.

01:15:30.000 And I'm not partaking of it.

01:15:33.000 I mean, we have got to have an explosive, aggressive awakening.

01:15:36.000 It's already happening, but not fast enough.

01:15:39.000 So, I mean, I'm not here giving you orders from headquarters.

01:15:41.000 I told you we did the ten part, the timeline to tyranny.

01:15:45.000 It's been up for two days on PrisonPlanet.com.

01:15:47.000 It's in the news and focus section on the right hand side.

01:15:51.000 Please get that out.

01:15:52.000 I mean, people need to see that.

01:15:58.000 And you need to write your own articles.

01:16:00.000 And I'm telling you, martial law is the focus.

01:16:03.000 I said 9-11 is the focus.

01:16:05.000 Day one when it happened I said we got to expose this as an inside job or they're going to carry out more attacks.

01:16:10.000 And I believe it's because we have exposed this as an inside job that they've been afraid to carry out big events here domestically.

01:16:15.000 And I predicted attacks in England or Europe and you saw 7-7.

01:16:18.000 I mean I've got these people pretty well figured out.

01:16:24.000 You eat, breathe and sleep something.

01:16:27.000 And anybody can get to the point where they understand this stuff to the level I do.

01:16:31.000 They just have to spend less time ninnying and more time researching.

01:16:38.000 I mean, I'm telling you right now, look, I made a prediction two months before 9-11, they were going to stage an attack, probably use Bin Laden as the fall guy and attack the World Trade Center. 0.73

01:16:49.000 And then I said on 9-11, I said a very good chance they're going to launch a bio-attack to create more fear, and what happened?

01:16:54.000 I mean, I've got them figured out.

01:16:56.000 And I said last year, right before the midterm elections, I said they're going to stage something big in the next four months unless we get the word out.

01:17:05.000 And you know what?

01:17:06.000 You got the word out, folks.

01:17:09.000 You got the word out.

01:17:14.000 Fox News reported on my warning.

01:17:17.000 Now, and I said in that warning, if you get the word out, they won't do it.

01:17:21.000 And then people said, oh look, it didn't happen, he predicted it and it didn't happen.

01:17:24.000 No, I said if you get the word out, it won't happen.

01:17:28.000 Now there's only been two of those predictions.

01:17:31.000 I'm not even going to make one now.

01:17:34.000 I'm just going to tell you the no's knows.

01:17:37.000 Not just my brain, not just my intellect, but my gut, the base, where the soul, where they say it resides.

01:17:44.000 Whatever, that's the place where you really know something.

01:17:46.000 In my gut, I'm telling you, they're getting ready to pull out the ace of spades on us. 0.92

01:17:55.000 And I'm telling you that they're not used to losing and they're arrogant.

01:18:00.000 And the controllers aren't listening to their advisors who are telling them back off.

01:18:04.000 They're telling them back off!

01:18:06.000 Even Brzezinski's coming out and saying, you're going to blow the whole thing. 0.99

01:18:08.000 He's a mass murderer, folks. 1.00

01:18:10.000 He's as evil as they come. 0.99

01:18:11.000 He testifies in February, the government could stage an event to get us into war!

01:18:15.000 A gulp of Tonkin or worse. 0.70

01:18:17.000 All right, I'm telling you, folks, that the people pulling the strings, the people giving the orders may go ahead and just say, you know what?

01:18:32.000 It's like a bully who's never lost a fight, and they're just saying, well, this guy's giving us a good run for our money, but I'm just going to keep coming.

01:18:39.000 And they are going to keep coming.

01:18:41.000 And we all see this in our daily lives with people that think they can take advantage of you or push you around, and then you finally stand up to you.

01:18:47.000 I mean, you finally stand up against them, and then they stand right back up to you, and then you've got to go ahead and put them down.

01:18:54.000 It is the same thing.

01:18:56.000 They aren't going to stop.

01:18:57.000 I don't think they're going to stop.

01:18:58.000 So the next best thing we can do is just go ahead and put out on the line who's behind the finances, who's behind that crisis, who's behind the war, who's behind the terror, and just get the word out on them as much as we can and put the word out to everybody about who's behind it so when they go ahead and do it, that it's going to be their undoing.

01:19:21.000 And their collapse It's like the old fable of when you kill the evil wizard, his palace collapses.

01:19:29.000 So when we strike the enemy down, we gotta hightail it out.

01:19:34.000 Cause the castle's gonna be falling down.

01:19:37.000 And it's not gonna be pretty.

01:19:39.000 With all the yuppies clinging to its pillars. 0.89

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01:19:47.000 We're gonna come back with Ted Gunnarsson.

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01:23:52.000 Well, I haven't interviewed him in a couple of years, And he's done such prolific work.

01:24:18.000 He was a Senior Special Agent in Charge in Los Angeles, California.

01:24:23.000 Special Agent in Charge Memphis, Tennessee, Dallas.

01:24:26.000 Of that sector.

01:24:28.000 He was Chief Inspector before that.

01:24:30.000 Assistant Special Agent in Charge New Haven, Connecticut, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

01:24:34.000 This is going back.

01:24:35.000 He got in the FBI in 1951, 1960, as a Special Agent.

01:24:39.000 Ended up in 1980.

01:24:41.000 And he's been on the Los Angeles Olympic Committee.

01:24:44.000 In the 1980s, he won for the AFL-CIO, another law enforcement officer of the year award.

01:24:51.000 And he was a real favorite until he found out about some pretty wild stuff.

01:24:56.000 And Ted Gunderson, I've got you on through into the next hour, and I appreciate you coming on with us today.

01:25:01.000 We're going to open the phones up later.

01:25:03.000 But in this short segment, first off, I want to say hi to you, and good to speak with you.

01:25:06.000 And our mutual friend Jack McClam says hi.

01:25:10.000 But just out of the gates also, just want to get into how you woke up the New World Order.

01:25:13.000 But Ted, it's good to have you on.

01:25:16.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:25:18.000 You're the guy that deserves accolades, not me, believe me.

01:25:22.000 But no, I had a very lustrous career, 27 plus years in the FBI.

01:25:27.000 I see in the FBI there are 164 categories that we investigated, and if a matter came in within those 164 categories, we investigated it.

01:25:37.000 Did we?

01:25:38.000 We didn't.

01:25:39.000 There was a certain limited amount of intelligence work that we did like against the mafia and so on and so forth and but never never never did anybody in the FBI even dream as far as I'm concerned as far as I do anything about the cany cult and corruption and what had there was a limited amount of investigative work in the intelligence field on corruption but nothing nothing I mean, it didn't even touch the surface.

01:26:06.000 And so I retired in 1979.

01:26:07.000 I had over 700 personnel under my command and acquired 16 offices on the West Coast and so forth.

01:26:15.000 And I went into private practice.

01:26:17.000 And my first case was the Dr. Jeffrey R. McDonald case.

01:26:20.000 And that's M-A-C-D-O-N-A-L-D. 1.00

01:26:22.000 He's a former Green Beret doctor who was convicted of murdering his wife and two children in Fort Bragg, February 17, 1970.

01:26:29.000 And he had been tried, convicted, sentenced to three consecutive life sentences.

01:26:34.000 And his defense team came to me, will you investigate it?

01:26:36.000 And I said, yes, I will.

01:26:38.000 Providing he's innocent.

01:26:40.000 And if he's guilty, I don't want to have anything to do with it.

01:26:43.000 And within 10 months, I obtained a signed confession from a girl named Talena Stokley.

01:26:48.000 In fact, the confession is dated October 25, 1980.

01:26:52.000 And she told me that he did not commit the murders.

01:26:56.000 They were committed by her satanic cult group.

01:26:59.000 It was her initiation into the cult that night.

01:27:04.000 I went public with the information, Alex, across the nation on radio and TV and so forth.

01:27:09.000 I've been on a number of radio shows.

01:27:12.000 In fact, I've just been monitoring my show with Geraldo.

01:27:16.000 It was back in the 80s.

01:27:19.000 People just came out of the woodwork from all parts of the country to give me the same basic information, same story, didn't even know each other.

01:27:26.000 And that's when I woke up.

01:27:28.000 You know that old ad with the light bulb, the poor dad has a better idea?

01:27:31.000 Oh yeah.

01:27:32.000 Well that was what happened to me.

01:27:34.000 And these people have just, I've been like a magnet ever since.

01:27:37.000 I have so much, I have over 300 boxes of research.

01:27:40.000 And because people have just been feeding this information to me, feeding it to me.

01:27:45.000 And from there it went into corruption, of course, within the government, and then into drugs.

01:27:51.000 And then when I really realized it, and it's really a serious problem, Is that there's two elements within the government, the covert and the overt operation.

01:28:02.000 And of course, I was part of the overt operation out in front, you know, radio, TV shows and so forth.

01:28:10.000 The covert operation involves the people who are recruited out of special forces, trained as killers and trained in the in the cults and trained in the drugs.

01:28:20.000 And it's it's unbelievable.

01:28:22.000 And the number of deaths Well, let me stay there, we're about to break, but here's an example everybody can check out.

01:28:34.000 The finders case that you helped break was in the major DC papers.

01:28:38.000 They did go to the CIA warehouse, there was all the child porn, the satellite uplinks, the kids have been gotten out because they'd gotten word.

01:28:46.000 There's hundreds of other admitted cases.

01:28:49.000 There's 3,000 plus children, CNN reported, missing in Florida that CPS took.

01:28:53.000 They found a lot of them dead, ritually killed, heads chopped off.

01:28:57.000 It's kept very quiet though.

01:28:59.000 Came out a few places.

01:29:00.000 I mean, we're talking about numbers like that and it's just barely on the radar screen.

01:29:04.000 Well, that's right.

01:29:05.000 That's right, Alex.

01:29:07.000 It's just absolutely unbelievable and it's being covered up.

01:29:11.000 Of course, we have the mainstream media.

01:29:13.000 People like you, thank God for you, Alex, and a few other people like you.

01:29:17.000 There's not enough of you, unfortunately, who are exposing this.

01:29:22.000 You know, and also in the McMartin case out in Manhattan Beach, California, that was where they had the preschool, and the kids said that they were taken under tunnels, into tunnels, and up into the Triflex next door, the trap door, and taken out in the community and processed.

01:29:35.000 These were two, three, four-year-old kids.

01:29:37.000 And sure enough, you found tunnels.

01:29:38.000 Stay there.

01:29:40.000 Ted Gunderson is our guest, and we're going to be taking calls in the next hour.

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01:33:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:33:06.000 I've got to tell you, I really woke up, I keep saying 15 years ago, I've been saying that for years.

01:33:19.000 Thank you.

01:33:20.000 I woke up about 5, 6, 7 years before I got on air, so... It's gotta be like 20 years ago now.

01:33:28.000 No, I woke up about 16, 17 years ago, about the Federal Reserve and the New World Order, and I went and read books at the library and documented it.

01:33:37.000 World leaders had really said the things they'd said.

01:33:40.000 And then, I kept running into Satanism, Satanism, Satanism, the occult, the occult, the occult.

01:33:47.000 And, I mean, even up until the late 1990s, I really wouldn't get into it.

01:33:52.000 About as radical as I got is I would have Ted Gunnarson on to talk about documented cases where I had newspaper articles like the Finders case in the late 80s that we'll talk about.

01:34:02.000 But then the British media came to me.

01:34:04.000 They were scared to sneak into Bohemian Grove, Channel 4, National British Television.

01:34:08.000 They said, well, you sneak in and I did sneak in.

01:34:10.000 Let me tell you, it was done with pageantry.

01:34:12.000 It was done like a play, but that's where plays come from is, you know, the people in the crowd, the folks on the stage doing the ritual.

01:34:18.000 But the old men in the crowd were taking it very, very seriously.

01:34:23.000 Then I had a lot of occult experts, even mainline university professors who were secular say, oh yeah, this is a Babylonian slash Egyptian slash Greek human sacrifice ritual, the mullet.

01:34:35.000 That happened back in 2000 and since then I've gotten all these books written by prime ministers and presidents and it's been in all of the British papers that Tony Blair every morning flops around on the ground while he is possessed by a spirit And then he has the Spirit of the Light, which is Lucifer, enter him.

01:34:52.000 His wife is a witch. 1.00

01:34:53.000 They go to weird underground temples. 0.96

01:34:55.000 They go to Egypt.

01:34:56.000 They go to Asia. 0.92

01:34:57.000 They go to Aztec temples.

01:34:59.000 I mean, just to get the power.

01:35:01.000 And that the press, we're stating a lot of the press with Blair and them screaming and yelling and an Aztec demon ritual being reborn.

01:35:12.000 I mean, this is crazy!

01:35:15.000 But that's in the major papers!

01:35:18.000 And it's going on.

01:35:20.000 Now, the question is, you know, you've got your normal schizophrenics out there who think this stuff's happening to them, and that Martians are pouring acid on them, and the sun's orbiting satellites, shooting laser beams at them.

01:35:31.000 That's going on out there.

01:35:33.000 But then you've got thousands of real cases in Dime Corps in Halliburton, now two years ago, in the front page of the Chicago Tribune admittedly running giant child kidnapping rings, and then nothing happens to them.

01:35:47.000 And we have Senate hearings where it's brought up, and Rumsfeld doesn't deny it.

01:35:50.000 He says, man, that's the way we roll.

01:35:52.000 So joining us is somebody who was there really, you know, back in the 80s exposing this.

01:35:58.000 Right through to today, Ted Gunderson and how he woke up.

01:36:01.000 Ted, walk through it and then let's get into the finders, the rest of it.

01:36:04.000 I should tell people your website is tedgunderson.com.

01:36:08.000 We've got a link to it on Infowars.com.

01:36:11.000 That's Ted Gunderson.

01:36:12.000 Gunderson is G-U-N-D-E-R-S-O-N dot com.

01:36:16.000 Ted Gunderson dot com.

01:36:17.000 So what was this like when you start investigating this murder on Fort Bryan?

01:36:22.000 Of course, that's where, now even mainstream news admits, the biggest concentration of Satanists Well, that's a good assignment, Alex.

01:36:28.000 bases, and of course you've spoken about that years ago, now it's even been in my local statesman twice in the last couple years here in the paper, but you've got the floor.

01:36:36.000 Walk us through what it was like waking up, and then shift gears to the big picture, just how many there are, how powerful they are, what they run.

01:36:44.000 Wow, wow, that's a good assignment, Alex.

01:36:48.000 Let me also mention, speaking of websites, we give away, my associate and I, Clarence Malcolm, we give away free DVDs to try to get the word out.

01:36:57.000 And that website is one dash, in all caps, F-R-E-E dash DVD dot com.

01:37:03.000 And we're giving them away, so try to educate as many people as possible.

01:37:09.000 Well, what's going on is you talk about the missing children and so forth.

01:37:16.000 The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children out of Washington, D.C.

01:37:23.000 is an adjunct of the U.S.

01:37:24.000 Department of Justice.

01:37:26.000 And they, on their website, last time I checked, which was several months ago, claim that there's 91 Americans disappear every year, excuse me, every hour.

01:37:36.000 91 Americans disappear every hour, and it is estimated that 85 to 90 percent of those disappear are children.

01:37:46.000 Now, if you add that up, it's over 700,000 a year who disappear.

01:37:52.000 And, of course, this Finders case broke back in the 1980s, late 1980s.

01:37:57.000 I have a copy of the Customs, U.S.

01:38:00.000 Customs report that states that it was investigated internally by the CIA.

01:38:06.000 And this is good documentation.

01:38:09.000 I mean, this is right out of U.S. 0.72

01:38:10.000 Customs.

01:38:10.000 And that report is available on my website, by the way.

01:38:13.000 So, we have all these people, these Americans disappearing, most of them are children. 0.98

01:38:18.000 And what happens to them?

01:38:19.000 Well, they are being auctioned off.

01:38:23.000 I have sources who tell me that there's auctions outside of Las Vegas, about 50 miles, in an abandoned airfield.

01:38:30.000 I've got to stop you now.

01:38:31.000 Now, you've been saying this for decades.

01:38:33.000 There were a few mainline news articles this year talking about auctions of women kidnapped out of Europe and the U.S.

01:38:40.000 So, it's now been in mainstream news they have auctions.

01:38:44.000 That's right.

01:38:45.000 And another auction location was in Michigan.

01:38:48.000 Another one is a barn outside of Lincoln, Nebraska.

01:38:51.000 Toronto, Canada.

01:38:53.000 And I have this information direct from kids who've been at the auctions.

01:38:56.000 One of my sources, I asked him, I said, how many children are auctioned off at these various auctions?

01:39:02.000 How many of you attended?

01:39:03.000 He said, I've attended six auctions.

01:39:05.000 And as few as six and as many as 36 children were auctioned off at up to $50,000 each.

01:39:12.000 And I said, well, how do they do that?

01:39:13.000 He said, they put them on a stage with their underwear up to 21 years between, you know, infants up to 21 years of age, and they put a tag around their neck with a number and people come in to this location, wherever it is, and auction on each one of the kids.

01:39:28.000 And then they put these kids in some instances, one source said, That in outside Las Vegas at the airfield, they put some of these kids on an airplane.

01:39:37.000 And there were people with the turbines who auctioned off what these kids could barely afford.

01:39:43.000 Now, since you've been saying this for 15 plus years, it's now been all over BBC, all over foreign press, that the jets land in Saudi, and land in Riyadh, and do disgorge 10 year olds, you name it.

01:39:56.000 I mean, this is now mainstream news.

01:39:59.000 Yes, that's right.

01:40:02.000 And so, you know, what do they do with these kids?

01:40:05.000 Well, they auction them off. 1.00

01:40:07.000 They use them for sex slaves. 1.00

01:40:08.000 They use them for body parts. 1.00

01:40:09.000 They use them in satanic ceremonies.

01:40:11.000 And the kids are not put on airplanes.

01:40:13.000 They put them in campers, what have you, and they dope them up, and they're stopped by the police.

01:40:17.000 Well, let's go back.

01:40:18.000 That's how Finders got blown.

01:40:20.000 Tell folks how that got blown.

01:40:22.000 Well, Finders was exposed because back in, I think it was February 1987, there were two well-dressed men and six children.

01:40:31.000 Ages two to seven, noticed in a park in Tallahassee, Florida, and somebody called the police.

01:40:39.000 The police went out and checked on it.

01:40:40.000 The kid said they were moved to Mexico to a smart school, but they didn't know how to use telephones, didn't know how to use toilets or anything, and they said that they were from Washington, D.C., and they only were fed when they were good and so forth.

01:40:55.000 That's how they were rewarded, and were able to come in and sleep inside.

01:40:58.000 Otherwise, they had a problem sleeping outside.

01:41:01.000 Now again, also from your report, and this even came out in the news, there were dirty mattresses, dirty clothes in the back of this van, guys in suits.

01:41:09.000 That's right, yeah.

01:41:11.000 And one fellow's name was Ammerman, and the other's name was Holloman, I think it was.

01:41:17.000 And, uh, anyway, so they traced the organization that had Virginia license plates on the van, traced it to Washington, D.C., uh, to two different locations, and the police in Washington, D.C.

01:41:27.000 raided it, and, uh, they found all kinds of paraphernalia.

01:41:30.000 They found evidence of, uh, uh, cults and kidnapped children all over the world, in Europe and Asia, and, uh, I recall there were two kids that were in the process of being adopted out of Hong Kong, uh, and, uh, into the United States, or out of the United States, I forget which.

01:41:46.000 And by the way, back then it was a big deal.

01:41:48.000 Absolutely overwhelming.

01:41:49.000 They also said that there was evidence of homicides and murders and sacrifice ceremonies that took place in the finders.

01:41:59.000 And by the way, back then it was a big deal.

01:42:00.000 There was jumbo, high-def satellite uplinks.

01:42:04.000 That's right.

01:42:06.000 So anyway, this was basically exposed.

01:42:11.000 Now fortunately, it took a couple of years, but U.S.

01:42:13.000 News & World Report did finally have an article on it, and so there is good documentation.

01:42:19.000 As far as I know, nothing's come of the case.

01:42:23.000 Because it got clamped down.

01:42:24.000 Tell folks about that part, how it got clamped down.

01:42:27.000 Well, I have my report with the U.S.

01:42:30.000 Customs report plus other documentation, information from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

01:42:36.000 I compiled this in a report with my name on it, and I'm an ex-FBI chief, and I should have credibility.

01:42:43.000 I'm not some guy with a grocery basket looking for a recycling center.

01:42:47.000 And I've technically given it to the FBI on at least a half a dozen times, Alex.

01:42:52.000 And as a matter of fact, I have it on a tape recording where I gave it to them and made a record of it, and I've also faxed it to them, and I have been ignored, completely ignored.

01:43:02.000 Now we have here children being kidnapped And children being sacrificed, obviously, internationally, contacts around the world, and the FBI's doing nothing with it.

01:43:16.000 That's so disgusting, I can't believe it, of course.

01:43:20.000 Well now, we have the tape, we ought to play it next hour.

01:43:23.000 Can you dig that out where Cynthia McKinney's asking Rumsfeld about the child kidnapping rings? 0.92

01:43:27.000 And then he just says, well, we're not going to do anything about that.

01:43:30.000 I mean, that is Chicago Tribune, AP, Reuters, that was in the press. 0.73

01:43:35.000 that Dyncore and Halliburton kidnapped tens of thousands of women and children, and they're doing it out of bases all over Europe and the Middle East, using them for slave labor, sex slaves.

01:43:45.000 They're kidnapping adults too, folks, and literally flying them to islands to literally be slaves in sweatshops. 0.70

01:43:51.000 Others are sent for sex slaves.

01:43:53.000 And then it said that they have lobbyists on Capitol Hill lobbying for the Pentagon to not stop them because they're using USB bases. 0.87

01:44:01.000 I mean, that's Chicago Tribune!

01:44:03.000 I mean, everything you're saying now, Ted, used to be wild.

01:44:06.000 Now it's passé!

01:44:08.000 What was the date of that article, Alex?

01:44:11.000 There were two in the Chicago Tribune, early 2006, and it was in... Oh, there's hundreds.

01:44:16.000 It was all over the foreign press.

01:44:20.000 If you want, you can Google search it and find it or I can send it to you.

01:44:23.000 But I mean, that's my point, is that now, the stuff you used to talk about is just all over the news.

01:44:27.000 Well, I've been talking about this for 28, 27, 28 years.

01:44:31.000 And nobody's listened to me, really, basically, until I guess maybe a few people are listening now.

01:44:37.000 I just finished a 16-city lecture tour, by the way, from Portland, Oregon, all the way to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

01:44:44.000 And, uh, and I brought up this Finder's case, among other things, and also the terrorist movement, the phony terrorist movement, I should say.

01:44:51.000 Uh, and, uh, you know, the reaction from the public is, uh, is overwhelming once they see the documentation.

01:44:59.000 Uh, but getting it out is something else, unfortunately, because of shows like yours and some others, uh, that I've been on and, of course, other people have been on.

01:45:07.000 Uh, we are getting it out gradually, but... Now... Go ahead.

01:45:12.000 Let's just bring up Bohemian Grove for a few minutes and any other cases you want to hit on.

01:45:16.000 But I remember you talking about Bohemian Grove before I ever snuck in there.

01:45:19.000 I remember, of course, John DeCamp, state senator, highly respected Republican, friends with the CIA section chief, CIA director.

01:45:27.000 He gets hired by the Republicans to go, he has this huge career, he gets hired to go whitewash and disprove that there's sex rings going out of the savings and loan.

01:45:37.000 He finds out it's all true, they kill his chief investigator, And then he goes public, and then he's got survivors, who he went and got their notebooks, as you know, where they describe Bohemian Grove, and then it fits like a hand in a glove.

01:45:51.000 I mean, it's just... Can you speak to all that?

01:45:53.000 Oh yes, of course, because I was a part of that investigation.

01:45:57.000 I was asked to come back in the late 1980s from Los Angeles back to Nebraska and to investigate this because I was told that this John DeCant guy didn't know what he was talking about.

01:46:10.000 On the contrary, I found out that John didn't know exactly what he was talking about.

01:46:14.000 And this was the Franklin Savings and Loan out of Omaha, Nebraska, which was established for minorities.

01:46:19.000 And what happened is, the IRS and the FBI raided it because there was $40 million missing, and there was publicity, and 80 children came forward and said, oh, mommy or daddy or whatever the case might be, that man molested me.

01:46:32.000 They were having pictures of Larry King on the front page of the Omaha World-Herald.

01:46:36.000 And from the 80 children, four gave statements.

01:46:40.000 Of the four, one of them disappeared.

01:46:43.000 The other one died in a hospital, maybe overdosed.

01:46:46.000 The other two, Paul Benassi and Alicia Owens, ended up going to jail for coming forward with their story.

01:46:52.000 But they refused to recant.

01:46:54.000 They held steady.

01:46:55.000 And they basically told us about the fact that these kids were being taken.

01:47:01.000 Now, now, now, now this is the guy that sung the Star Spangled Banner at the Republican National Convention.

01:47:06.000 This is a black guy, he's not Larry King on CNN.

01:47:08.000 And, uh, and, and, and if memory serves, and it was in the newspaper, I have the newspaper articles, they did, the FBI grabbed hundreds of videos and photos, and then, and then they, uh, they declared national security, correct?

01:47:08.000 Right.

01:47:20.000 That's right.

01:47:21.000 And, and, well, the, uh, There was all kinds of documentation.

01:47:26.000 There were pictures.

01:47:27.000 They were taking kids out of orphanages and foster homes.

01:47:30.000 They were driving them to Sioux City, Iowa.

01:47:32.000 And then later, over a decade later, the very boy's town they mentioned came out in the news.

01:47:38.000 The exact stuff was happening.

01:47:40.000 That's right.

01:47:41.000 See, that's the thing.

01:47:42.000 Time is the great avenger, folks.

01:47:44.000 All this stuff's coming out now, backing up what you said, Ted.

01:47:46.000 Go ahead.

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:48.000 And then they would fly them from Sioux City, Iowa to Washington, D.C.

01:47:50.000 for six hours, usually with Congressmen and Senators.

01:47:53.000 Now, I interviewed Paul Bonacci.

01:47:55.000 I have a five-hour interview tape of him, by the way, talking about the Mind Control Program, which is available on that 1-3-dvd.com.

01:48:03.000 And I also interviewed Rusty Nelson, who is the, quote, official photographer, end quote, of the group.

01:48:09.000 And Rusty claims to have these pictures stashed around the United States, hidden in caves and what have you.

01:48:16.000 And so, fortunately, there were some pictures that did come forward.

01:48:23.000 They were presented to the courts.

01:48:25.000 The judge in Lincoln, Nebraska said, well, we're going to put a gag order on these.

01:48:29.000 Johnny Camp was allowed to go and look at them only, but can't talk about it.

01:48:32.000 We're putting a gag order on these pictures because we don't want reputable citizens to lose their reputation because of these pictures.

01:48:38.000 That's a joke, by the way, of course.

01:48:41.000 Absolutely.

01:48:42.000 And those pictures have been sealed.

01:48:44.000 Nobody can get to them.

01:48:45.000 But Gary Karagora, you mentioned him.

01:48:47.000 He was the pilot and he was the investigator for the Senate Committee in Nebraska.

01:48:53.000 And he met Rusty Nelson in Chicago.

01:48:55.000 Rusty ended up being a good guy.

01:48:58.000 He was concerned about what was going on.

01:49:00.000 He was the official photographer, as I said.

01:49:03.000 And he would slip his own film in there every once in a while and take pictures on his own and then not let them know about it.

01:49:07.000 So that was his insurance policy.

01:49:09.000 And so Rusty was hiding out in Arizona and Gary Caridora, the investigator for the John DeCamp and that group, got heard about it.

01:49:17.000 Rusty got a hold of him.

01:49:18.000 He and Rusty met in Chicago and Rusty gave him the pictures of the politicians having sex with some, you know, children and what have you in Washington, D.C.

01:49:30.000 And so, Gary Caridore was flying back that night, about 1.30 in the morning, right outside of Chicago, and there was obviously a bomb in the plane.

01:49:40.000 The FBI claims that the plane just fell apart in the air.

01:49:43.000 But a farmer saw an explosion.

01:49:45.000 The debris fell down.

01:49:46.000 A sheriff's deputy was the first one on the scene.

01:49:50.000 He was picking up these pictures.

01:49:53.000 And an FBI agent came along and took the pictures from him and told him to keep his mouth shut.

01:49:57.000 Apparently he didn't because a month, a year later his wife was murdered.

01:50:01.000 And of course Gary and his 11-year-old son both died in the crash.

01:50:05.000 That was what happened.

01:50:06.000 That's when I came into the scene.

01:50:08.000 Now to be clear though, to be clear, John DeCamp was hired.

01:50:11.000 The Senate didn't believe it.

01:50:13.000 John DeCamp didn't believe it either.

01:50:14.000 He went in and said, oh my gosh, that's the perfect type of witness, isn't it?

01:50:18.000 Where it's someone who's credible and an official and they were hired to disprove it.

01:50:24.000 Well, Johnny Camp is a hero.

01:50:25.000 I mean, he absolutely says, hey, wait a minute, I don't believe this.

01:50:29.000 But then once he started investigating, he realized it did take place.

01:50:32.000 He, at one time, was described by the Omaha World Airlines as the most influential politician in the state of Nebraska.

01:50:37.000 Well, in the meantime, he's no longer in office.

01:50:39.000 They've destroyed his name and reputation.

01:50:41.000 He's had to move from Lincoln, Nebraska, to a small town south of there, about 35 miles.

01:50:47.000 Stay there.

01:50:48.000 Also, they'd stop doing this to children, which includes blowing their heads off.

01:50:51.000 We'll be right back.

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01:54:25.000 I want to make it clear.

01:54:27.000 There's a lot of disinfo out there on this subject.

01:54:30.000 But I did look at it, research it, and I continue to look at it, and... Oh, by the way, John, I forgot to ask you up there running the show in Minnesota.

01:54:37.000 Did you find the Cynthia McKinney clip?

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01:55:53.000 Going back to Ted Gunderson, Ted, when you first woke up, I mean, what was it like, A, for you to be able to deal with this?

01:56:02.000 Because it's even hard for me to deal with it.

01:56:04.000 I mean, I wish that this stuff wasn't going on.

01:56:07.000 For a normal person, it completely freaks you out, at least it freaks me out.

01:56:12.000 Uh, to realize that yeah, there's evil out there, but there's also just so much of it, and it's in so many high places, Ted.

01:56:22.000 What did I, what was my reaction to that?

01:56:24.000 Yes.

01:56:25.000 Well, uh, I've been an investigator for 55 years, so I, uh, I can handle the emotional aspect of it.

01:56:32.000 And basically it was just, once somebody told me about it and I became involved in it, as you do Alex, any good investigator or investigative reporter does, you want to know more and more and more and more.

01:56:45.000 And number one, in addition to that, you have to document it.

01:56:48.000 So I went on a journey to document this information, and it is well documented.

01:56:54.000 By the way, I pulled up the last page of my finder's report, the U.S.

01:56:59.000 Department of Treasury, U.S.

01:57:00.000 Cousins report.

01:57:00.000 Can I read this to you?

01:57:01.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:57:02.000 It's a barn burner.

01:57:04.000 This particular investigator with the Cousins, on April the 2nd, 1987, went to the Metropolitan Police Department at 9 a.m.

01:57:12.000 for a final briefing.

01:57:13.000 I'm going to quote right from this report, quote, I was advised that all passport data had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation.

01:57:20.000 The State Department in turn advised the Metropolitan Police Department that all travel and use of the passports by the holders of the passports was within the law and no action would be taken.

01:57:29.000 This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, and Vietnam from the late 1950s to the mid-1970s.

01:57:35.000 By the way, Alex, it was against the law to travel in those countries at that time.

01:57:38.000 Paragraph, quote, the individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated, listen to this now, That the investigation into the activity of the Finders had become a CIA internal matter.

01:57:51.000 The investigation had become a CIA internal matter.

01:57:55.000 And then continuing with that paragraph.

01:57:57.000 The Metropolitan Police Department report has been classified secret and was not available for review.

01:58:02.000 I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior and that the FBI Foreign Counterintelligence Division had directed the Metropolitan Police Department not to advise the FBI Washington Bureau Office of anything that had transpired.

01:58:13.000 No further information will be available.

01:58:15.000 No further action will be taken.

01:58:17.000 No action will be taken on the basis of this report.

01:58:19.000 That's the final report that's available to the public.

01:58:23.000 I've given this report To the FBI a half a dozen times, and I have been ignored.

01:58:28.000 And by the way, that was in the DC newspapers, and it's a lot worse than what he was just saying.

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02:00:06.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:14.000 Ted Gunderson.

02:00:16.000 Special agent in charge Los Angeles, California with 700 agents under him when he retired then he got into private security practice and investigations and found out Well, there's a whole nother world out there from what he'd been dealing with bank robberies and things like that And he joins us now for the full third hour.

02:00:34.000 We appreciate him coming on I wanted to get into government-sponsored terror and any other facets or areas that he wants to discuss and But again, I'm always honored to have a chance to speak with him.

02:00:45.000 Ted, you were continuing with reading the actual final report by Customs on how they were ordered to shut down and turn over this whole warehouse of child kidnapping operations in D.C.

02:00:58.000 and just shut the investigation down.

02:01:00.000 And now, it's just commonplace knowledge.

02:01:05.000 It's all over the news that There was 1.2 million, and this was in 2002, the last numbers I saw, women and children kidnapped out of Central Europe alone.

02:01:14.000 We know a lot of children taken by CPS just disappear, that's mainstream news, but then it's a footnote where they're found, and that's when their heart's cut out and their head's chopped off in Europe or, you know, in the outback of Australia or here in the US.

02:01:28.000 They're flying them out of the country, they're doing all manner.

02:01:32.000 How many of these people are in our society from your studies, Ted Gunderson, and how big really is it from your 27 years of research?

02:01:41.000 Alex, it's mind-boggling.

02:01:45.000 You know, the Franklin, in addition to the Franklin cover-up, by the way.

02:01:48.000 Well, by the way, before I leave the Franklin cover-up, let me just mention this.

02:01:51.000 That John DeCamp lived in Lake, Nebraska, town of 200,000.

02:01:56.000 And a car rolled into his house, into his yard one day, in front of his child.

02:02:02.000 And that little dog was there.

02:02:04.000 They ran over the dog back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.

02:02:07.000 And the driver of the car said to the little girl, if your dad doesn't back off, this is what's going to happen to you.

02:02:12.000 Tell your dad that.

02:02:13.000 John had to move 35 miles south of there to a small town, Claytonia.

02:02:18.000 296 people, by the way.

02:02:21.000 And so John had to do that in order to, you know, to protect his family.

02:02:27.000 And I lived two blocks from John, I might mention, because I was being poisoned a year ago last May and April and May, and I knew it.

02:02:35.000 They were pumping poison into my condominium in Las Vegas.

02:02:39.000 And John said, you better come on out here.

02:02:40.000 So I moved out there, too.

02:02:41.000 So I'm living in Claytonia, Nebraska, too.

02:02:43.000 I remember whenever you went to the hospital, yeah.

02:02:46.000 And I had arsenic and cyanide in me.

02:02:48.000 I was suspicious.

02:02:49.000 And I took blood tests.

02:02:51.000 And I documented it.

02:02:52.000 And like you, Alex, any good investigator is going to document it.

02:02:55.000 You can't just shoot off the top of your head without the documentation.

02:02:58.000 So I took the blood test, and I had arsenic and cyanide in me.

02:03:01.000 I went on a crash vitamin program, and fortunately my system's been cleaned up.

02:03:06.000 But anyway... How were they poisoning you?

02:03:08.000 I mean, did you find out how they were doing it?

02:03:10.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:10.000 Yeah, I figured out how they were doing it.

02:03:13.000 I lived in a condominium in Las Vegas, Nevada.

02:03:16.000 And they were pumping poison in through the wall next door.

02:03:19.000 Somebody had come in.

02:03:21.000 I never did see anybody ever live next door, but I think they came in in the middle of the night.

02:03:25.000 And they were pumping it through the walls.

02:03:27.000 And I could smell it.

02:03:29.000 It was a real sweet smell.

02:03:31.000 And then I started losing my memory.

02:03:33.000 I'd sit at my desk.

02:03:34.000 I'd say, what did I think?

02:03:35.000 What am I doing?

02:03:36.000 What am I supposed to do next, you know?

02:03:38.000 That's unbelievable, Ted.

02:03:39.000 So you've been through hell.

02:03:40.000 Something was happening to me, so I immediately went down and took the blood test, urinalysis test and all that, and I documented it.

02:03:46.000 And I said to myself, I've got to get out of here.

02:03:48.000 So within two weeks, I left Las Vegas.

02:03:50.000 John said, come on back, and he ran a place to me in Claytonia, Nebraska.

02:03:56.000 As I said, I live two blocks from there.

02:03:57.000 Man, that's unbelievable, Ted.

02:03:59.000 So you've been through hell.

02:04:00.000 Well, I've been through it.

02:04:01.000 Not only that, Alex, back in the early 80s, when I first became involved in these issues, I had three occasions when gunmen were waiting for me.

02:04:09.000 I remember that, yeah.

02:04:12.000 And then I had the FBI investigating me.

02:04:15.000 Under my Freedom of Information Act, I obtained a documentation that they had three investigations going on me.

02:04:20.000 That didn't work, because they were trying to prosecute me.

02:04:22.000 And then they put a girl on me and tried to set me up on a drug deal, Pam Fawcett. 0.98

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02:04:28.000 Yeah, we're going to come right back.

02:04:29.000 Stay there.

02:04:30.000 It's amazing.

02:04:32.000 Yeah, that's why I don't let a lot of people get around me, because other people drop stuff on me too.

02:04:36.000 It's not fun.

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02:07:44.000 I'm gonna be honest with you.

02:07:45.000 He sounded credible.

02:07:46.000 I had a lot of news articles backing up his claims.

02:07:49.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

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02:07:55.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

02:08:01.000 He sounded credible.

02:08:02.000 I got a lot of news articles backing up his claims.

02:08:04.000 But when I interviewed this guy like 12 years ago, in fact, Tim was one of the very first interviews I ever did when I first got on radio.

02:08:12.000 I, frankly, in the back of my mind, I just couldn't bring myself to believe it, and And now I believe it.

02:08:18.000 No, it's much worse than even what he's discovered.

02:08:21.000 And, and, and that's what's, I mean, I can take it calmly and deal with it, but it still is freaky to know that there are psychopathic demons, just like the big serial killer they just caught up in Missouri, who'd been the big public official all those years.

02:08:35.000 And, uh, you know, he loved to torture people and all that.

02:08:38.000 He acts so friendly, so charming, so nice.

02:08:40.000 They're all around you, folks, in positions of power, and it's their guild.

02:08:44.000 It's their little secret club.

02:08:46.000 It's their big joke. 0.99

02:08:48.000 And I remember Ted Gunderson saying they bring in male prostitutes, they run whores out of the White House and out of Bohemian Grove and they're doing all this and now it's been in the front page of papers. 0.99

02:08:59.000 Top gay porn star services moguls at Bohemian Grove, New York Post. 0.99

02:09:04.000 It's been in the newspapers that Jeff Gannon, this male madam, is going in and out of the White House. 0.93

02:09:12.000 uh... and you know whoever he really is and that there's hundreds of visits after midnight and uh... i mean you can't make this type stuff up this is going on now and it's everything that ted gunderson would say for all those years uh... ted getting into the male prostitutes and from my research and this is just an estimation it does seem like democrats like women 0.85

02:09:40.000 underage and of age, and Republicans, it seems like to join their club, it's homosexual. 0.97

02:09:45.000 Is that what you found?

02:09:47.000 And, I mean, of course, that's a generality.

02:09:49.000 But, I mean, more so, is that the pattern you've seen?

02:09:52.000 Well, yeah, of course, there's a lot of good Democrats, a lot of good Republicans, a lot of good FBI agents and all sorts of things.

02:09:57.000 But this covert operation, the Republicans in the covert operation, the secret societies, which is satanic, of course, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call it, they go for the boys, they go for the little boys, and they call them toys, T-O-Y-S.

02:10:14.000 And the covert operation with the Democrats, you're right, does seem to go toward the female aspect of it.

02:10:22.000 By the way, I might mention, Alex, that John DeCant had a one million dollar judgment against Larry King because of the Franklin cover-up case and he's standing on a street corner in Lincoln, Nebraska and a stranger walks up to him and says, if you ever collect that money you won't live to spend it.

02:10:40.000 So that's when John, and of course that was a combination of that plus running over his dog and everything, that he went down to Claytonia, Nebraska.

02:10:50.000 But you asked me how many there are.

02:10:53.000 I have a number of sources, confidential sources around the country that I'm in contact with.

02:10:58.000 I can't talk to them on the telephone because all our phones are tapped.

02:11:03.000 And I have documentation that, as a matter of fact, I have sued GTE in Los Angeles and collected an out-of-court settlement for tapping my telephone back in the late 1980s.

02:11:16.000 My sources tell me that there's at least 4.5 million practicing Satanists in America.

02:11:22.000 Now, here's where I reach, how I deducted that figure.

02:11:25.000 In Manhattan Beach, California, which was where the McMartin Preschool was, and the kids talked about, you know, adults in robes without clothes on, they're enchanting them, and cutting up brown babies, we think they were Mexican babies, and obvious satanic ceremonies. 0.87

02:11:41.000 In the Manhattan Beach, California area, about 200,000 people, And my informant tells me there's about 3,000 in that area.

02:11:47.000 Lincoln, Nebraska, 200,000.

02:11:49.000 Another informant tells me about 3,000 in the Lincoln, Nebraska area.

02:11:53.000 By the way, you folks need to buy the Franklin cover-up book.

02:11:56.000 That really documents what we're talking about here today.

02:11:59.000 And that's available on the website, by the way.

02:12:01.000 Absolutely.

02:12:01.000 People should go directly there and get it.

02:12:03.000 You know, that's a book we ought to carry.

02:12:04.000 I don't know why we're not.

02:12:05.000 TedGunderson.com, yes.

02:12:07.000 Yeah, you should, Alex.

02:12:08.000 In fact, there's a second edition out right now.

02:12:10.000 Well, it's the fourth or fifth edition.

02:12:12.000 Okay, well, it's one of the newest editions.

02:12:14.000 He sold like 180,000 copies of it.

02:12:17.000 And the mainstream bookstores, they start carrying it first and now they won't carry it, because it's so devastating.

02:12:24.000 But anyway, my third source, Iowa City, Iowa, that's a town of about 100,000, and that source says there's about 1,500 or so, and if you were to project those figures, the 3,000, 3,000, 3,000... Yeah, take those microcosms and then multiplex it across, you get your number.

02:12:40.000 Beg your pardon?

02:12:41.000 I mean, take those sources from different cities and then basically estimate for... You go ahead and tell folks how you did it.

02:12:49.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:12:50.000 You arrive at the figure of about four and a half million people across the country, and you are practically saying this.

02:12:55.000 And how many do they sacrifice?

02:12:57.000 You know, they have human sacrifices.

02:12:59.000 They sacrifice between 50 and 60,000 Americans every year.

02:13:05.000 In this country, and that's from three different sources.

02:13:08.000 Now, by the way, by the way, I'd always heard this about that big abortionist there in Kansas, the other one in Missouri, that they were eating babies and doing all this weird stuff.

02:13:17.000 Now that came out in the mainstream news and the guy just said, Oh, I was just joking around eating them.

02:13:24.000 And then he considered each one a sacrifice.

02:13:26.000 So there's also that going on.

02:13:28.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:13:29.000 That's, that's part of the ceremony.

02:13:31.000 And, you know, this is going on right under our noses.

02:13:34.000 The FBI refused to investigate it, and I personally feel that our intelligence community and our government in Washington, D.C.

02:13:42.000 has been infiltrated by the Illuminati at the highest level.

02:13:45.000 I don't want to say that there's one behind every mailbox, but the people in a position of authority are definitely involved in some of these covert activities.

02:13:55.000 There's no question about it.

02:13:57.000 Now I want to bring up some other issues here because I live in Texas so I've been hearing about this ever since I was a child.

02:14:04.000 I remember reading Texas Monthly when I was like 15 years old.

02:14:07.000 I remember seeing it in the newspapers when they found in one, at one ranch by Boquias Across the Texas-Mexico border, over 100 bodies that had been sacrificed with their hearts cut out of adults, mainly U.S.

02:14:24.000 college students and others.

02:14:25.000 And then I remember they dug up over 200 bodies in the sand just across the U.S.-Mexico border.

02:14:31.000 And this is in the news in El Paso.

02:14:34.000 And then they dug up over 100 more bodies.

02:14:36.000 This was in the news, but again, minor footnote.

02:14:41.000 Matt Morris down on the Texas-Mexico border on the coast and this I've just grown up seeing this in the paper and they tell college kids watch it because they grab you and do this but it's also Mexicans and it's funny that you should and the reason they got busted down in Boquillas was because a guy escaped who they were cutting up and killing.

02:15:02.000 And also, they couldn't make him cry and beg and have fear, so they freaked out and left him and kind of let him go.

02:15:08.000 And the guy went nuts.

02:15:09.000 He was sacrificing him and freaked out and was screaming out to Satan. 0.63

02:15:12.000 And that's just the mainline drug dealers down there into human sacrifice.

02:15:16.000 So can you imagine if there's... How many is that?

02:15:19.000 That's 400 dead bodies, hearts chopped out, just found on the Texas-Mexico border.

02:15:24.000 How big is this, Ted?

02:15:26.000 Oh, it's huge.

02:15:28.000 As I say, it's mind-boggling.

02:15:29.000 By the way, I have some, on film, some satanic ceremonies that are available, and they're pretty gruesome, and I don't recommend that you allow your children to watch them, but they're actually pictures.

02:15:43.000 They were given to me by one of my informants, two of my informants, actually.

02:15:47.000 So, you know, I have the documentation on it.

02:15:51.000 Describe the rituals for us.

02:15:54.000 Well, what they do is, first of all, they dope the victim.

02:15:58.000 Dope them up.

02:15:59.000 First of all, they kidnap them, of course.

02:16:01.000 And then they immediately dope them up so they can control them completely.

02:16:07.000 And then when it comes time to sacrifice them, they put them on what they call the altar.

02:16:13.000 And then they have a certain way that they cut them up, like they go at the top and they go on down and they cut across through their stomach and so forth.

02:16:22.000 And then what they do is they take the liver out of the individual, and they pass it around, or body parts, they pass it around to the whole group, and it's a ceremony of 13, usually 13 people, and they all take a bite out of the raw liver, and then in addition they drink the blood, they drain the blood from the victim, and they drink it out of a chalice, they pass it around, and then they do the Hail Satan and all that sort of thing,

02:16:50.000 And that's it.

02:16:53.000 And then, of course, they dispose of the body.

02:16:55.000 They have so many ways of disposing of the body.

02:16:57.000 It's unbelievable.

02:16:58.000 One of the ways of disposing of the body is to put it in acid, put it in a big base of acid.

02:17:04.000 Another one, of course, is they bury them sometimes and they chop them up, take them out in the middle of the ocean someplace and dump their body parts.

02:17:12.000 And, you know, it's just, it's sickening what's happening to these people.

02:17:17.000 And these are victims.

02:17:18.000 Now, I recently ran across the case of John Van Meters, his name.

02:17:25.000 He was a Wisconsin woodsman.

02:17:26.000 He was in Sonoma County, Alex, where you were, this Bohemian Grove.

02:17:30.000 He's a woodsman, so he went out in the woods on October 31st of 2004, and he noticed a caravan of five and six cars and about 20 or 30 people coming in.

02:17:42.000 And he saw a woman in the nude. 0.92

02:17:45.000 Now, this is on Shaolin or Samhain.

02:17:48.000 Beg your pardon?

02:17:49.000 Shaolin, the High Holy Day. 0.98

02:17:51.000 Yeah, right, right, right, right.

02:17:54.000 This is Halloween, right.

02:17:55.000 And so he saw this caravan coming, saw this woman who was in the nude, and he realized it was a satanic ceremony.

02:18:02.000 They spotted him, and they started shooting at him, and he got his gun out, and he shot back.

02:18:08.000 He killed four of them, according to him.

02:18:10.000 And he chased the leader into the woods.

02:18:12.000 They had a running battle and the leader from a distance said to him, I have a get out of jail free.

02:18:18.000 We have the police and the FBI in our hip pocket in this area.

02:18:21.000 And if you do anything to me, you're going to live in a 10 by 10 cell the rest of your life.

02:18:26.000 And so on and so forth.

02:18:27.000 And he was shot himself with the shotgun pellets and also with three different nine millimeter weapons.

02:18:34.000 And Anyway, in the meantime, the girl was able to escape, and she jumped in a car, had keys in it, and took off, then in the car in Oakland, and called her brother.

02:18:44.000 Her brother came, picked her up, and so on and so forth.

02:18:47.000 Anyway, so he reports it to the police, and they wait three days to go out to the site, and he finds out through their police report, and then they say that this never happened, even though he was shot three times by different 9mm weapons, and they file a charge against him.

02:19:03.000 Ted, stay there, stay there, but I never told this story.

02:19:06.000 I'll just tell it before we even go to break.

02:19:07.000 When we get back from break, I'll tell it about when I went back out to Bohemian Grove in 2003 and all the weird things that happened there.

02:19:14.000 Some of it I've told, some of it I haven't.

02:19:16.000 But we actually got shot at.

02:19:18.000 And that's the kind of thing you don't talk about.

02:19:21.000 But it wasn't the Bohemian Grove shooting at me, folks.

02:19:25.000 Since Ted told that story, I'll just tell this one.

02:19:28.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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02:19:33.000 And I want to shift gears and get some into Government Sponsored Terror and take some of your phone calls for Ted Gunderson on Government Sponsored Terror or on the Satanic Elite.

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02:19:43.000 I want to talk about those.

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02:23:47.000 Do it today. 0.75

02:23:48.000 The elite are predators.

02:23:59.000 It's that simple. 0.97

02:24:00.000 They have a religion of predator behavior.

02:24:05.000 And they just think it's their right to kill us and feed on us and just like the ancient Greeks would go out and grab a young helot and sacrifice him because it was from the lower class. 0.99

02:24:19.000 I got news for the New World Order. 0.84

02:24:21.000 I'm not your slave. 0.99

02:24:22.000 And you're the ones that are going to end up being dog meat. 0.71

02:24:27.000 Now, uh, I snuck in there in 2000.

02:24:29.000 We were back there in 2003.

02:24:31.000 I put little clips of that in the Order of Death film I put out a couple years ago.

02:24:39.000 But there's not a lot of gas stations or restaurants around there.

02:24:42.000 I mean, you'll drive for 20 miles before you see one.

02:24:44.000 So we pulled over on the side of the road.

02:24:46.000 Myself and Kevin Booth said I needed to, you know, urinate.

02:24:51.000 And there's nobody around.

02:24:52.000 There's like some shack a hundred yards up in the woods.

02:24:56.000 And I'm just up against a tree doing my business.

02:24:58.000 All of a sudden, boom!

02:24:59.000 Somebody shoots a shotgun and it hits in the leaves right above me.

02:25:01.000 I saw them flicker.

02:25:02.000 I saw holes appear.

02:25:03.000 And I run over to the car window.

02:25:05.000 I go, somebody's shooting me.

02:25:06.000 He goes, no they're not.

02:25:07.000 And he steps out and he goes boom again.

02:25:09.000 We hear pellets.

02:25:10.000 But by then they'd gotten weak, bounce off the car.

02:25:12.000 And I mean that's how nuts.

02:25:14.000 You think there's hillbillies in Texas or West Virginia or Or the Carolinas, folks.

02:25:19.000 The Hillbillies are in Northern California, but just a little side story.

02:25:23.000 Ted, please continue.

02:25:24.000 We're going to play the Cynthia McKinney clip here in just a minute. 1.00

02:25:27.000 Well, anyway, so the girl fortunately was rescued by jumping in a car.

02:25:33.000 And anyway, so that John, by the way, he called me six, eight months ago because my name and reputation wanted some advice on this.

02:25:41.000 And so John chases the leader down and ended up shooting him, and he took a business card out from his hip pocket after he was dead, and he called it the next day, and a woman, female, answered, Federal Bureau of Investigation, it was a 202 number, which is Washington, D.C., by the way.

02:25:58.000 And then the day after that, she hung up when he didn't apparently give the right code word.

02:26:03.000 And then the day after that, he called again, and that phone number had been disconnected.

02:26:08.000 So, the police in Sonoma filed charges against him for filing a false report.

02:26:15.000 He ended up, instead of going to a jury trial, or leaving it up to the judge because he was afraid of corruption and so forth, given 20 years, his attorney said, you better just say no local contendere and pay a $10,000 fine and get the hell out of there.

02:26:29.000 Pardon me for saying that.

02:26:30.000 And then, that wasn't the end of the story.

02:26:32.000 A year and a half later, a year ago this last summer, in 2006, He's in the woods in Wisconsin and two guys come after him there and he has a shootout with them.

02:26:43.000 He gets hit also like three or four times with two different weapons.

02:26:47.000 And these guys get in the car and take off and so forth.

02:26:52.000 So the girl, by the way, that escaped, one of the females, Satanist, obviously Satanist, whispered in her ear, I'm going to drink your blood. 1.00

02:27:04.000 That's what she told John, of course.

02:27:07.000 Now, John's being charged with filing false report in Wisconsin also, and his trial's coming up in November, and I told him I'd go testify for him.

02:27:15.000 But that's what's going on.

02:27:17.000 It just so happens that John ran into that situation, and even though he was shot with different caliber weapons, the authorities are covering it up, obviously, and refuse to recognize that this takes place.

02:27:29.000 Well, at the same time, All I know is that the locals criticized us for sneaking in there, the quote, local hippie groups that protest against them, against the Bohemian Grove for politics.

02:27:43.000 They said, there's nothing occultic, we're dumb, we're bad, and then we went out there in 2002 and guess what we caught on video? 0.75

02:27:49.000 Well, it's in the order of death. 0.96

02:27:50.000 They're out there with a literal witch's pot, hundreds of them, marching in circles, firing spells in there, doing all this.

02:27:57.000 This is the very group that didn't want us to talk about the occult.

02:28:00.000 And then I talked to some police and others out there and they said, oh yeah, man, there's dead animals, pentagrams in all the woods, that supposedly that area is the biggest concentration in the country of a cultist.

02:28:12.000 Well, I believe it.

02:28:14.000 But you see, these people have infiltrated every level of society.

02:28:14.000 I believe it.

02:28:18.000 I have people who write me letters all the time and identify the leading cultists and Satanists in their community.

02:28:25.000 Usually these letters are anonymous, so I can't go back on and interview them.

02:28:30.000 And they have identified judges, law enforcement, prosecutors, leading businessmen, a big Ford dealer in Orange County, and the list just reads, and politicians of course.

02:28:41.000 Now for some reason I have this gap in my brain.

02:28:44.000 What's the name of the Big serial killer up in Kansas and Missouri area who was a big local official.

02:28:51.000 What's his name?

02:28:52.000 The BT killer.

02:28:55.000 The BT killer, is it?

02:28:57.000 You're talking about Kansas, yes.

02:28:59.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:29:00.000 That was Wichita, Kansas.

02:29:02.000 I was just reading about his case the other day and I couldn't remember the name, but it was just like how satanic he was and how many people he killed, but how he fooled everybody.

02:29:11.000 Yeah.

02:29:12.000 He was, uh, the initials were, uh, Kidnap, Torture, and Murder.

02:29:16.000 T-K-M or something like that. 0.89

02:29:19.000 That's why they called him that.

02:29:20.000 Right.

02:29:21.000 And, uh, and fortunately they got him, but... Do you think he was part of this group?

02:29:25.000 Oh, I don't think there's any question about it.

02:29:27.000 And these school shootings are part of this group, too, uh, Alex.

02:29:30.000 Alright, alright, well, we'll stay there, stay there.

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02:32:52.000 We're going to play this clip from Cynthia McKinney bringing up the giant child kidnapping and adult kidnapping range. 0.62

02:33:00.000 And Lumsfeld says, yeah, well, we usually put them in the penalty box.

02:33:03.000 She says, yeah, but you haven't put them in the penalty box, which they haven't.

02:33:06.000 It's admitted this is going on.

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02:33:09.000 Then, of course, even worse stuff came out later.

02:33:11.000 Then we're going to get a little bit of the government-sponsored terror, and I promise Dave, Mel, Lee, Kenny, and others that are patiently holding.

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02:36:51.000 Ted, we've got to move quick now, but I want to play the Cynthia McKinney clip.

02:36:55.000 But just in a nutshell, two or three minutes, government-sponsored terror, Oklahoma City, 9-11-7-7.

02:37:01.000 Can you speak to government-sponsored terrorism?

02:37:04.000 Of course.

02:37:05.000 You want me to do that right now?

02:37:06.000 Yes, sir, go ahead.

02:37:07.000 Okay.

02:37:08.000 I have documentation that on March the 20th, 2001, that FBI agent Keith Kutrea of the Williamsport, Pennsylvania Resident Agency was punished.

02:37:17.000 The identification of an individual in New Jersey, Patterson, New Jersey, as a matter of fact, Who was coordinating forthcoming terrorist attacks in the United States.

02:37:24.000 They had information on the movement of Soviet-made fired missiles in the United States, coordinating skyjackings, bombings, espionage, knew the identity of sleepers, and so on and so forth.

02:37:33.000 My source, an ex-CIA agent, also told me that he gave this information not only to the FBI, but also he told them that he had a source inside the Arab world who was preparing false IDs for 4,500 terrorists And the FBI could grab a hold of this individual and get this information.

02:37:51.000 They had an opportunity to do this.

02:37:54.000 They didn't bother to interview him until after 9-1-1, and then they threatened him with prosecution and deported him.

02:38:00.000 So, I'm telling you right now that the FBI normally knew in advance about 9-1-1, but they were furnished information they could have developed with a little bit of legwork.

02:38:12.000 And they could have exposed and probably prevented 9-1-1 from occurring.

02:38:17.000 My source says he is sure that if the FBI had moved on this at the time, March 20th, 2001, six months prior to 9-1-1, that 9-1-1 would never have occurred.

02:38:28.000 Instead, on two days after 9-1-1, September 13th, 2001, Agent Kutcher came back to my source, my ex-GIA agent buddy, And I said that he was seeking publicity, wanting to know why he's bothering the FBI wasting his time, anti-FBI, anti-government, so on and so forth.

02:38:45.000 So, I'm telling you right now, there's no question about the FBI knew in advance of 9-1-1, and they could have prevented it, and they did not.

02:38:53.000 Well, a bunch of agents were told to back off, and that's been mainstream news.

02:38:58.000 That's right, and there were two Chicago agents, his name was Wright and Vincent, who were told that they could not continue their criminal investigation of Osama Bin Laden.

02:39:10.000 And they sat across the table from a supervisor from Washington, D.C.

02:39:13.000 who yelled and screamed at them, do not, under any circumstances, investigate this man.

02:39:17.000 This was prior to 9-1-1.

02:39:19.000 Well, that was the special directive That Bush put out, Clinton also issued the same directive, W199I, and they told them in Phoenix, they told them in Las Vegas, they told them in Dallas, they told them in Oklahoma, they told them in Minneapolis-St.

02:39:38.000 Paul, they told them in Chicago, they told them in San Diego, they told them in Miami, they told them in New York.

02:39:43.000 Leave these people alone! 0.70

02:39:44.000 Those, of course, were just the drones, the front people, the legends, the people creating the histories.

02:39:51.000 With all of that, but yeah, I mean, everything you just said is on record.

02:39:53.000 You just added more to that picture now.

02:39:56.000 And it is, and in fact, I talked to right off air.

02:39:59.000 I talked to his lawyer, Shippers, and when he went on the National Press Club, he started crying and he said, here's the letter.

02:40:04.000 I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know.

02:40:06.000 He said, all I can tell you is the Bush's vacation with the Bin Laden's. 0.99

02:40:10.000 Now, now, now, come on, police, what do you think about the average cop out there listening right now?

02:40:15.000 I mean, do you think cops are waking up to this now, Ted, or do you think they just still believe the government's run by a bunch of saints?

02:40:21.000 Well, I, no, I don't think the police are waking up to it.

02:40:24.000 I think some are, some aren't, but the ones that are waking up to it, like, for example, I have a source Who has contacts inside the Philadelphia Police Department, and his source inside the Philadelphia Police Department says we don't dare talk about this because we don't know when we talk to the individual whose side he's on or she's on, you know?

02:40:40.000 So, it's questionable as to the extent of the knowledge that is being passed around among the law enforcement officers.

02:40:49.000 Now, as far as the FBI agents are concerned, I know they're not awake.

02:40:53.000 They're not.

02:40:54.000 Even the retired agents think I'm a traitor to them.

02:40:57.000 I've been kicked out of the Society of Former Special Agents of the FBI.

02:41:00.000 I've been chastised.

02:41:01.000 I've been accused of being a turncoat.

02:41:04.000 Everything you can imagine.

02:41:06.000 I filed a Freedom of Information request in 1995.

02:41:08.000 I still haven't received any information on it.

02:41:11.000 Uh, so, uh, no, I'm very pessimistic about these people because of mainstream media.

02:41:17.000 Mainstream media controls the information.

02:41:19.000 These guys don't look any further than beyond their noses.

02:41:21.000 We tired FBI agents, instead of doing what I'm doing, doing their research, finding out what's going on, caring for their country, are out playing golf.

02:41:30.000 No, I hear you.

02:41:32.000 Let's play a clip right here.

02:41:33.000 This is from two and a half years ago.

02:41:35.000 They went after her after this, but Rumsfeld doesn't deny that this is going on.

02:41:40.000 He just says that they're in the penalty box concerning DynCorp and others involved in all this stuff.

02:41:45.000 Here is the Armed Services Committee hearing.

02:41:48.000 Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003.

02:41:59.000 In which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade.

02:42:03.000 The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business.

02:42:08.000 But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children.

02:42:17.000 While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox, manthrax vaccines.

02:42:25.000 And is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program.

02:42:31.000 Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S.

02:42:33.000 government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls? 0.97

02:42:37.000 That's my first question.

02:42:39.000 My second question, Mr. Secretary, according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.

02:42:51.000 Fiscal year 1999, $2.3 trillion missing.

02:42:54.000 Fiscal year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.

02:42:58.000 And D.O.D.

02:43:00.000 is the number one reason why the government can't balance its checkbook.

02:43:04.000 The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.

02:43:12.000 My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other?

02:43:20.000 How long have they had those contracts?

02:43:23.000 And how much have the taxpayers paid for them?

02:43:26.000 Finally, Mr. Secretary, after the last hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four war games on September 11th.

02:43:37.000 I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today, and then I do expect the written response to my previous question, hopefully by the end of the week.

02:43:53.000 Thank you, Representative.

02:43:56.000 First, the answer to your first question is no, absolutely not.

02:44:00.000 The policy of the United States government is clear, unambiguous, and opposed To the activities that you described.

02:44:11.000 The second question.

02:44:15.000 Well, how do you explain the fact that Dyncor and its successor companies have received and continue to receive government contracts?

02:44:25.000 I would have to go and find the facts, but there are laws and rules and regulations with respect to government contracts.

02:44:34.000 And there are times that corporations do things they should not do, in which case they tend to be suspended for some period.

02:44:41.000 There are times, then, that under the laws and the rules and regulations passed by the Congress and implemented by the executive branch, that corporations can get out of the penalty box, if you will, and be permitted to engage in contracts with the government.

02:44:59.000 They're generally not barred in perpetuity.

02:45:04.000 This company was never in the penalty box.

02:45:07.000 If you could proceed to my second question.

02:45:09.000 Okay.

02:45:09.000 Alright.

02:45:10.000 And it goes on and on.

02:45:11.000 You can watch that video at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com and it goes on and on.

02:45:15.000 Then it came out last year, about a year and a half ago, Chicago Tribune and a few other publications.

02:45:20.000 That DynCorp and Halliburton both do it, and they have, of course it's been, and you ask for papers, hundreds of foreign papers, BBC, Times of London, just everywhere, millions of children it's said.

02:45:31.000 I mean just the numbers, it's just a stagger of the mind where they're all going.

02:45:35.000 Mainly Israel, Saudi Arabia and Asia, where they run these industries, these hell pits. 1.00

02:45:39.000 It's not that we need to invade folks, it's Saudi Arabia and Israel and places like that.

02:45:44.000 But again, they run us, so it's the opposite, these hell demons.

02:45:47.000 uh... but uh... that they have a lobbyist full-time to lobby that criminal uh... charges not be put in place uh... quick comment ted gunderson we're gonna go to calls Well, this doesn't surprise me, Alex, because I know this has been going on, and I know the people in the government are aware of this, and I know the people in the government are covering it up.

02:46:09.000 And it's a major, major catastrophe.

02:46:12.000 It's a crisis, and we need to...somebody has to do something about it.

02:46:16.000 I don't know who's going to take care of it, but it's been ignored, totally ignored across the board. 0.97

02:46:20.000 I mean, they like to rape and kill children, and they're going to do it right in front of us and even have it in the newspaper now. 0.99

02:46:26.000 You know, I got a bunch of phone calls when I was first talking about this three years ago with the Dying Corps. 0.97

02:46:29.000 Well, I guess four or five now, because it was in foreign press.

02:46:32.000 And I'd get threats of lawyers, then people calling up saying, you're going to die.

02:46:39.000 So I decided to talk about it every day.

02:46:41.000 Well, you know, let me just go back a minute.

02:46:43.000 I'm missing children, and the 91% disappear every hour.

02:46:47.000 You know, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, they pass out these cards on the missing kids.

02:46:53.000 And they've been in business for like 25, 26 years.

02:46:56.000 And as of a year ago last fall, they used to put on the card the number of children they've located.

02:47:02.000 And as of that time, they had located like 139 children in 25 years.

02:47:08.000 And their budget is around $49 million a year.

02:47:11.000 Now, I did a survey.

02:47:13.000 I took these cards.

02:47:14.000 I took 94 of them, all that I had available to me.

02:47:18.000 And I charted the months that these kids disappeared.

02:47:23.000 And I found out that of the 94, 47 disappeared during the months of June, October, and December.

02:47:29.000 June is the summer solstice, October is Halloween, and of course, December is the winter solstice.

02:47:34.000 Three major... Well, you know that in criminology.

02:47:37.000 I mean, I took a few courses in college, you know, peon level, not even cop level training.

02:47:42.000 And I know that the police know that during Halloween and other key occult holidays, that's when all the craziness goes on.

02:47:48.000 That's right.

02:47:49.000 But, you know, it's there.

02:47:52.000 I mean, the facts are there.

02:47:53.000 The truth is there.

02:47:55.000 And those are the three major holidays when they commit human sacrifices, the cults do.

02:48:00.000 And this is going on across the country.

02:48:01.000 And as of 1970, there were like 500 satanic cults in the New York City area alone.

02:48:06.000 I don't have a recent figure on that.

02:48:08.000 That was from one of my sources at that time.

02:48:13.000 And they just run things, and they're just going to shut up a police state and have open Satanism, and all I know is they're going to get a fight. 0.99

02:48:21.000 I guarantee you, you scumbags, you're going to get a fight. 0.99

02:48:23.000 Let's talk to Dave in California. 0.99

02:48:25.000 Dave, thanks for holding.

02:48:25.000 We'll go to Lee, Kenny, and others.

02:48:27.000 Go ahead.

02:48:28.000 You're on the air, Dave.

02:48:29.000 Good morning, my brothers.

02:48:30.000 This is David Short from remote northern California of all places.

02:48:34.000 Well, David, how are you?

02:48:35.000 I'm fine, thank you, and it's nice to hear your conversation, Mr. Gunderson.

02:48:40.000 God bless and protect you and your families, and that goes for you, too, Alex.

02:48:43.000 Well, thank you.

02:48:43.000 Do you have any points or anything on that?

02:48:45.000 Yes, sir.

02:48:45.000 Mr. Gunderson, what is the best and clearest evidence that exposes the highest level child-killing perverts, and does this go all the way to George Herbert Walker Bush?

02:48:58.000 Let me tell you this.

02:48:58.000 With the Franklin cover-up case, Uh, goes right into the White House.

02:49:04.000 Went right into the White House.

02:49:06.000 Uh, there was one person who was prosecuted, Larry King, uh, not Larry King live, but a black man, high-ranking man in the Republican Party.

02:49:14.000 Nobody else was prosecuted on that case.

02:49:17.000 It was definitely exposed, it was documented, as I mentioned earlier in the show.

02:49:22.000 Even the Washington Times read the headline, underage cowboys, go ahead.

02:49:27.000 That's right.

02:49:28.000 I was going to say the Washington Times, it came out with headlines on this, not the mainstream media, but the Washington Times, pretty mainstream media I guess in the DC area, and it says that they were running cowboys on the Bush and the Reagan administration.

02:49:42.000 And then we had Jeff Gannon, who was running a cowboy operation, a homosexual cowboy operation. 0.95

02:49:49.000 He was a suspect because he was asking soft questions at presidential conferences, presidential press conferences.

02:49:57.000 And somebody had a little background on it, found out he had a homosexual website, and was probably, and could very well have been, the young kid, Johnny Gosch, who was kidnapped back in 1982, and was obviously a mind control victim, and I know Maureen Gosch very well, she's actually got a book out called Why Johnny Can't Come Home, and yeah, this goes right up to the White House.

02:50:20.000 I can't, I hesitate to say George Bush, Just look at him.

02:50:24.000 He looks like Ted Bundy.

02:50:25.000 Alright, thank you, David.

02:50:25.000 We don't have the proof documentation, but there's people in the White House that are involved in this.

02:50:30.000 Just look at him.

02:50:31.000 It looks like Ted Bundy.

02:50:33.000 All right, thank you, David.

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02:53:48.000 Music Music Music Lee in Indiana, you're on the air with Ted Gunderson.

02:54:17.000 Final segment.

02:54:18.000 We'll go to Kenny here in a moment to be our telegunner.

02:54:20.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

02:54:22.000 Ted, it's great to hear you vindicated from all those attacks you had here in 2003.

02:54:26.000 I got a question.

02:54:28.000 Since BBC has come out and identified Bush as a, uh, his grandfather is a Nazi working with the Nazis back in World War II, the eye observers identified the Bush family as the Sherfs, Zionists, working with the, you know, the Nazi fascist regime.

02:54:44.000 And they've got so many of them in the administration.

02:54:47.000 Can you talk about just how dangerous it is for these people, the head of the Commissars, KGB and others, who murdered 66 million Christians in Russia, to be running the show again now?

02:54:59.000 Well, I think your comment speaks for itself, Lee.

02:55:05.000 You see, as far as I'm concerned, and based on everything that I've been able to develop over the last 28 years, I became involved in these issues right as soon as I got out of the FBI in 1980 on the McDonnell case.

02:55:16.000 So I've been involved in this for like 28, 29 years.

02:55:19.000 And at the beginning, as Alex said, people thought I was nuts.

02:55:23.000 Well, now I'm being vindicated.

02:55:26.000 I've learned that there's not much difference between the KGB, the CIA, and the Mossad.

02:55:34.000 Well, at the top, they're all the same people.

02:55:36.000 That's my point.

02:55:37.000 That's exactly my point, Alex.

02:55:39.000 They're all involved.

02:55:41.000 As far as I'm concerned, there's a big conspiracy.

02:55:43.000 They're working together.

02:55:45.000 And there's no secrecy between them.

02:55:48.000 I attended a social function here not too long ago.

02:55:51.000 And there were some Russians there, Russian immigrants.

02:55:54.000 This is in Los Angeles.

02:55:56.000 And this one woman there was a very attractive lady, the blonde, and she was talking to me about her father.

02:56:01.000 Her father was head of the KGB chief in Moscow, had been for years, is now retired.

02:56:09.000 He was about my age.

02:56:09.000 I'm 78 years old.

02:56:11.000 And she told me that her father came over here on undercover operations in Washington, D.C.

02:56:15.000 and in Los Angeles.

02:56:16.000 He came to Los Angeles when I was head of the FBI there in 1978-79.

02:56:21.000 So, you know, yeah, it's very prevalent.

02:56:25.000 By the way, Ted, you don't look like you're 78.

02:56:27.000 Let's talk to Kenny in Wisconsin.

02:56:29.000 Last caller, go ahead, Kenny.

02:56:32.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:56:33.000 Hi, Ted.

02:56:33.000 Hi, Kenny.

02:56:34.000 Symbolism, roadside symbolism.

02:56:37.000 I won't get into a long oration on anything.

02:56:41.000 I'm aware of a 6-6, a second 6 being forked.

02:56:45.000 Let's go directly to, let's say, the color of a mailbox.

02:56:49.000 Can you offer any insight into that?

02:56:53.000 Are you talking about red and black?

02:56:55.000 I'm talking about blue.

02:56:57.000 Blue?

02:56:58.000 I don't have any knowledge on that.

02:57:00.000 Let's get into this.

02:57:01.000 Police admit that hanging shoes off a line in many cases means there's a drug house or like a sweater hanging on a fire hydrant.

02:57:09.000 Messages?

02:57:09.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:57:11.000 Yeah, I'm talking about they, them.

02:57:14.000 How do they communicate or let someone know that someone like them lives there?

02:57:19.000 You know, on the Satanist, the cult side.

02:57:23.000 Well, I can't address that issue because I'm not sure that I know about that, but I do know this.

02:57:29.000 If you look at the Republican logo, the elephant, look at the three stars, the point used to be at the top, now it's, it's been in, uh, used to be at the top.

02:57:37.000 Yeah, they changed that.

02:57:38.000 They changed that six years ago.

02:57:39.000 That's right.

02:57:41.000 Thank you, Penny.

02:57:41.000 Call us, call, come back later this week, tomorrow, or Sunday show, because I want to learn more about that.

02:57:46.000 I mean, I know about it, but I want to get your take on it.

02:57:49.000 And, yeah, notice all the stars, almost everything, have now been inverted.

02:57:52.000 Uh, Ted Gunderson, tedgunderson.com, links up on infowars.com.

02:57:56.000 Thank you for spending an hour and a half with us today, sir.

02:57:59.000 Yeah, listen, also, Alex, I want to mention there's a Guatemalan CIA covert operation involving a cutout by the CIA, Carlton Kaufman, and we exposed him on our website, and they immediately went off the internet.

02:58:11.000 Well, listen, I'm going to have you back up in the near future, okay?

02:58:13.000 Okay, thanks.

02:58:14.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:58:15.000 Thank you.

02:58:15.000 There goes Ted Gunderson, ladies and gentlemen.

02:58:18.000 All right, the show starts over right now at InfoWars.com, retransmission, and you can also get the free podcast at InfoWars.com.

02:58:26.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - August 09, 2007

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