Alex Jones Show - 20070814_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:42.000 them.

00:00:42.000 Amen.

00:00:42.000 Welcome.

00:00:43.000 Yeah.

00:00:44.000 It is the 14th day of August 2007 and so much is happening and I didn't stay in bed today so if I sound grumpy or tired or irritable it's because I'm running a fever and I got a weird summertime cold that half the people on Ellen Austin seem to have.

00:01:01.000 That's probably the chemtrails.

00:01:02.000 Lord knows what's going on these days.

00:01:04.000 But I am here because there's clear evidence that Ron Paul was directly cheated in the Iowa straw poll.

00:01:11.000 It was going to be a key benchmark for him.

00:01:15.000 And it always takes a few days to collate the data and to flesh it out and to see more of it develop.

00:01:20.000 And it certainly, it certainly has.

00:01:24.000 In a big way.

00:01:26.000 We've got a guest coming on in about 30 minutes with the Sunshine Project up in Iowa, who has been suing the government over these Diebold machines and trying to block them.

00:01:38.000 They were there doing their own exit polls.

00:01:39.000 They have a bunch of affidavits of people who were voting for Ron Paul.

00:01:44.000 They can show statistically that he should have gotten more votes than he did receive.

00:01:50.000 Realize that 26,000 people purchased straw poll voting tickets.

00:01:55.000 You've got to pay to get in and then eat.

00:01:57.000 at these three different facilities there they have their nested together the three different polling places but the uh... and these are adults buying tickets to vote making them eligible to vote and only fourteen thousand three hundred and two supposedly voted though there were more than five thousand Ron Paul supporters at just one of the major uh... voting places there were Ron Paul people taking over basically everything

00:02:26.000 Do you really believe that there were only 1,300 Ron Paul votes?

00:02:32.000 Do you really believe that for a single, solitary second?

00:02:38.000 But that's not where the proof even starts or ends.

00:02:44.000 I've got a big stack of it here in front of me, and we're going to be going over that, because this is important, because this is foreshadowing of what's going to happen with Ron Paul across the country.

00:02:56.000 Now, the New York Times and others are spending it, this is a victory for Paul, that, well, he showed up fifth!

00:03:01.000 It's showing that he's not just an internet candidate, or an internet insurgent, as some have called him.

00:03:08.000 The truth is, if Ron Paul would have won the straw poll, which I believe he clearly did, he's won every other major poll, after each debate, Whether it's tech messaging, one message per person, one vote.

00:03:24.000 Whether it's IP internet, where it's IP address, you can only vote once.

00:03:29.000 They claim that calling old ladies on average in key demographic areas, who have three channels of television, you know, shows, because Ron Paul shows up 3% in the vote, that that shows that he isn't a viable candidate.

00:03:40.000 No, it's two different worlds.

00:03:43.000 Two different segments of society.

00:03:45.000 But the on-the-ground force of Ron Paul Acolytes, Ron Paul supporters, Ron Paul revolutionaries, was massive.

00:03:56.000 So, we'll be going over that after the break.

00:04:00.000 Also, we have the PrisonPlanet.com public forum.

00:04:04.000 We have the private forum for members on PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:04:07.000 I have a bunch of questions here that people I've posted several hundred since I ended the show yesterday.

00:04:17.000 If people want me to comment on them, I'll comment on a few of those, as many as I can.

00:04:25.000 And we've got Jerome Corsi joining us because he's about to leave town and go to Canada, where they're banning any protest or demonstration of the North American Union Summit going on up in Canada.

00:04:38.000 I'm in French Canada, so that is coming up as well in the second hour.

00:04:43.000 It is Tuesday, the 14th day of August.

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00:08:07.000 David Rockefeller's best buddy, Brooke Astor, died at 105 last night.

00:08:18.000 And no doubt descended directly into Hades.

00:08:21.000 Very evil woman. 0.98

00:08:24.000 She's down there with Lady Bird Johnson right now. 0.95

00:08:26.000 Very serious situation with the straw poll in Iowa.

00:08:38.000 And of course, poor tins, omens, foreshadowing.

00:08:42.000 Of things to come with the election fraud.

00:08:45.000 I didn't talk a lot about Turd Blossom.

00:08:48.000 And if the president calls him that, we should call him by his name.

00:08:50.000 He's addressed in cabinet meetings as a Turdy or Turd Blossom. 0.99

00:08:55.000 Bush addresses everyone with an excrement name to show serious mental illness. 0.99

00:09:02.000 But yes, that's your Christian conservative leader. 0.98

00:09:05.000 We're going to play a Keith Olbermann clip here about that, and then I want to contrast that with the worshiping, fawning little compilation of Chris Matthews and others about the boy genius, superstar, mastermind behind everything.

00:09:20.000 This is the guy that said they controlled reality.

00:09:26.000 But let's go ahead and at least play part of this Olbermann clip.

00:09:28.000 We probably won't play all of it.

00:09:29.000 You can watch the whole thing at PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:09:31.000 But here is Keith Olbermann laying it out Now, in reality, Karl Rove ran absolutely nothing.

00:09:38.000 I mean, they had the policies that the globalists give them, that Kissinger, as a legate of the New World Order, directs to them, and then, I mean, I guess Rove got to decide which color to paint the 18-wheeler they run over the American people at high speed.

00:09:54.000 I mean, I guess, I mean, he did get to decide kind of how the silverware is arranged on the table, but not what the main course is or who's invited to dinner.

00:10:04.000 Or who's being eaten.

00:10:08.000 So, uh, let's go ahead and go to this piece.

00:10:10.000 Good evening.

00:10:10.000 The surge will salvage Iraq.

00:10:12.000 The President's poll numbers will bounce back.

00:10:14.000 The Republicans have a very good chance of keeping the White House next year.

00:10:16.000 Our fifth story on the Countdown.

00:10:18.000 Karl Rove's exit interview predictions as he resigned from the White House today, well, under congressional subpoena.

00:10:24.000 John Dean, Howard Feynman, and Rove biographer Jim Moore presently.

00:10:27.000 But the Rove story may have been summarized by a question barked out to President Bush by the estimable CBS News White House correspondent Bill Plante just after the President and Mr. Rove embraced.

00:10:36.000 Quote, it'd be so smart, how come you lost Congress?

00:10:40.000 The man known alternatively as the architect Bush's brain or turd blossom is leaving, like so many before him, to spend time with his family or because August is the optimum time for resigning.

00:10:51.000 Well, yeah, those are the most recent versions.

00:10:53.000 Mr. Rove chose the Wall Street Journal as the vehicle to initially announce his decision, explaining that he first told President Bush that he wanted to go over a year ago, but he didn't want to quit after the Democrats had won Congress.

00:11:04.000 Then he planned to leave after the State of the Union, but Iraq and immigration issues required his attention.

00:11:08.000 Then, White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolton told senior staffers that if they stayed past September, they would have to stay as long as the President was in office, which the Wall Street Journal reports sealed this deal.

00:11:19.000 Mr. Rove told NBC News today he had settled on an August departure date before Mr. Bolton's announcement.

00:11:24.000 He also told reporters that even though he and the President talked about him leaving for more than a year, they both mutually reinforced each other's quote, bad behavior by finding excuses not to talk about a firm date.

00:11:35.000 You wonder how Iraq happened.

00:11:37.000 Officially, Rove is off the clock at August 31st at midnight.

00:11:40.000 He and the President choosing to formally announce the decision on camera this morning on their way to a shared vacation in Texas.

00:11:48.000 Karl Rove is moving on down the road.

00:11:50.000 We've been friends for a long time.

00:11:53.000 And we're still going to be friends.

00:11:56.000 I would call Karl Rove a dear friend.

00:11:59.000 We've known each other as uh... Stop it right there for a minute.

00:12:05.000 I mean, listen to him laying on the fake Texas colloquialisms now.

00:12:10.000 He's moving on down the road.

00:12:12.000 Who's the good old boy you can trust?

00:12:17.000 I mean, again, I don't care if you're a blue-blood, you know, New World Order opium runner like the Bushes are. 1.00

00:12:23.000 I mean, if you're from Kennebunkport, Maine, so be it, and related to the Queen on every side of your family.

00:12:30.000 But just please, stop making Texans look bad.

00:12:33.000 Worldwide, people hate Texantown, make fun of us, and scare anybody in a cowboy hat, because this dyed-in-the-wool, ultra-Yankee, likes to sit up there and, oh boy, it's just all part of the fakeness, the fake Texas behavior, all of it.

00:12:51.000 Let's just go back to him.

00:12:51.000 Here it is.

00:12:53.000 He's interested in serving our steak.

00:12:58.000 We work together so we can be in a position to serve this country.

00:13:02.000 And so I thank my friend.

00:13:04.000 I'll be on the road behind you here in a little bit.

00:13:08.000 Like 526 days?

00:13:08.000 A little bit?

00:13:10.000 For his part, Mr. Rove says he has no firm plans except to write a book about the Bush presidency, the tone of which we may have gotten a preview of today.

00:13:18.000 Mr. President, I'm grateful for the opportunity you gave me to serve our nation and you.

00:13:24.000 I'm grateful for being able to work with the extraordinary men and women that you've drawn into this administration.

00:13:30.000 And I'm grateful to have been a witness to history.

00:13:33.000 It has been the joy and the honor of a lifetime.

00:13:37.000 I've seen a man of far-sighted courage put America on a war footing and protect us against a brutal enemy and a dangerous conflict that will shape this new century.

00:13:48.000 I've seen a leader respond to an economy weakened by recession, corporate scandal, and terrorist attacks By taking decisive action to strengthen the economy and create jobs.

00:13:58.000 I've seen a reformer who challenges administration, the Congress, and the country to make bold changes to important institutions in great need of repair.

00:14:09.000 So your book will be found in the science fiction aisle?

00:14:12.000 Mr. Rove is leaving while a Senate subpoena hangs over his head.

00:14:15.000 Presently, John Dean will join us to discuss the legal aspects there.

00:14:17.000 First, to analyze this August surprise, our own Howard Fineman, also senior Washington correspondent for Newsweek Magazine.

00:14:23.000 Good evening, Howard.

00:14:24.000 Good evening, Keith.

00:14:26.000 Mr. Rove told us he's not going to be working with a candidate or even a Republican nominee for president next year.

00:14:31.000 Why am I not believing him?

00:14:34.000 Well, because you've been covering him, Keith.

00:14:37.000 And so have I for many years.

00:14:39.000 I go back with George Bush and Karl Rove almost as far back as they go with each other.

00:14:44.000 They are one brain.

00:14:46.000 And what Karl Rove is going to do down in Texas, I think, having talked to some people in the White House and friends of his outside, and knowing how he operates, is once he gets his feet on the ground back in Texas, once he makes sure his kid's okay in school and his family's happy back there, Once the Republicans pick a nominee, I think you're going to see Karl Rove and George Bush serve the function in the next presidential campaign of taking the attack to the Democrat, who they fully expect to be Hillary Clinton.

00:15:16.000 The biggest news that Karl Rove made in that interview that he did with Paul Shegold and Wall Street Journalists... See, this is total theater.

00:15:22.000 A. Karl Rove sets no policy and runs nothing.

00:15:26.000 Okay?

00:15:27.000 This is all part of the important illusion of the elites that the British learned hundreds of years ago, that the Romans perfected thousands of years ago, of having puppet leaders and puppet advisors who then get all the heat.

00:15:38.000 They're like birdcage liner, and after they've been soiled, they just remove them and put new ones in.

00:15:43.000 Fox News, Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, have admittedly, I've been telling this for five years, it's been in the news for two, are behind Hillary.

00:15:55.000 They are clearly positioning themselves in the Republican Party to pass the baton to her.

00:15:59.000 And see, this is where you're going to see now Keith Eberman turn into a New World Order type.

00:16:03.000 It's okay to bash Bush and talk about corruption, as long as it's all blamed on him.

00:16:06.000 But now you're starting to see the conversion.

00:16:09.000 Oh, they're going to line up against that darling Hillary, who was in narcotics trafficking with Bush Sr. 1.00

00:16:16.000 20 years ago.

00:16:17.000 I mean, this just never ends.

00:16:19.000 Go ahead and go back to it.

00:16:21.000 ...was when Rove said that he fully expected Hillary Clinton to be the nominee and that she was a tenacious but fatally flawed candidate.

00:16:30.000 The themes that he enunciated out there on the White House lawn about the war on terror, about tax cuts and so forth, are the ones that Bush and Rove, in the service of the Republican Party, are going to take on the attack next year.

00:16:44.000 Why the variety of formal stories, though?

00:16:47.000 I mean, first this was supposed to be in response to Bolton's edict about Labor Day, then he said, no, the August date had been set before Bolton made that edict, then it was to be with his family, then it was Dana Perino's explanation that August is your prime retirement month.

00:16:59.000 Why so many stories, and what are they glossing over or covering up?

00:17:03.000 Well, I think they're glossing over the fact that this was the quietest time to sort of sidle out of town. 0.87

00:17:10.000 The notion that he was taking orders from Josh Bolton is ridiculous.

00:17:13.000 It was Karl Rove who hired Josh Bolton.

00:17:16.000 Josh Bolton doesn't tell Karl Rove what to do.

00:17:18.000 Karl Rove and George Bush are joined at the hip.

00:17:22.000 But now is the time to leave.

00:17:23.000 It was a quiet time.

00:17:24.000 It was long enough after 06 that Rove wouldn't look like he was being run out of town.

00:17:28.000 It's long enough after the Libby story and after Congress had pretty much played its investigative hand on the U.S.

00:17:34.000 Attorney story.

00:17:35.000 And I think that's the reason why.

00:17:39.000 Also, one thing here, Keith, the silence has been deafening from Republicans, from Republican presidential contenders, from members of Congress who, by the way, are out of town.

00:17:48.000 Another good reason for Rove to leave now.

00:17:50.000 I haven't heard a word See, you're hearing truths with half-truths and then lies.

00:17:54.000 What you just heard there is true.

00:17:55.000 Their job has been to destroy the Republican Party.

00:17:57.000 is that his sole focus has been on George Bush. 0.95

00:18:00.000 This notion that Karl Rove's aim was to build a new Republican majority, a la McKinley, is ridiculous.

00:18:06.000 His only mission was to get George Bush... 0.82

00:18:09.000 See, you're hearing truths with half-truths and then lies.

00:18:12.000 What you just heard there is true.

00:18:14.000 Their job has been to destroy the Republican Party, and it always has been, and to turn it into a mechanism for globalism, for the new world order, for hegemony, And to demonize our name worldwide.

00:18:29.000 And so you hear this writer go back and forth, back and forth, truth back into lies, back into spin, back into half-proofs, back and forth, basically confusing the population.

00:18:43.000 The Republican leadership wanted to win, They would have followed policies that were popular and constitutional.

00:18:51.000 Just so happens that constitutional issues are popular.

00:18:54.000 Wildly so.

00:18:56.000 You see, that's the thing.

00:18:57.000 Ron Paul is popular with anyone that looks at his policies because his policies just so happen on every issue to be wildly lined up with the views of the American people.

00:19:14.000 And then you have the Republicans and Democrats who try to put on this farce, put on this WWF thespian theatrical playhouse event for us.

00:19:27.000 And unfortunately, 20-30% of the public is still buying into it.

00:19:30.000 The rest of us have woken up that it is staged.

00:19:34.000 As in theater.

00:19:35.000 As in theatrical.

00:19:37.000 As in Shakespearean play.

00:19:41.000 As in Macbeth.

00:19:43.000 As in Romeo and Juliet. 0.99

00:19:49.000 And I've had it, and I can't believe that scumbag is coming back to Austin, Texas. 0.98

00:19:54.000 You know, one day I was in a store, shooting my mouth off about him, and I'll tell you what happened when we get back. 0.97

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00:24:34.000 He's there in Iowa, a local anti-fraud activist who's been involved exposing these voting machines.

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00:24:57.000 Now contrast Keith Oberman, and frankly a lot of it is just info about Karl Rove, this myth that he runs everything.

00:25:04.000 Contrast Keith Oberman, who I still like, with Chris Matthews and others.

00:25:10.000 This is a compilation of just gushing worship.

00:25:14.000 And I did watch some television yesterday, and it was even worse than whoever put this compilation together.

00:25:20.000 Here it is.

00:25:21.000 I think Rove is really smart.

00:25:23.000 If you've ever talked to him, he's almost got almost like a blinders on.

00:25:27.000 He looks right in the eye and he talks faster than I do.

00:25:31.000 Really fast, right in your face, totally intent on you.

00:25:35.000 And it's really like talking to a fire hydrant.

00:25:39.000 Paul Rove loves politics.

00:25:40.000 He's awfully smart.

00:25:41.000 He's not only the mastermind behind everything, he's the president's senior advisor, a mastermind behind the two successful runs for the White House.

00:25:50.000 Critical genius.

00:25:51.000 We should be congratulating Karl Rove for a long, successful run.

00:25:53.000 on Karl Rove, brilliant tactician.

00:25:54.000 Boy genius, Bush's brain, the architect.

00:25:57.000 Karl is brilliant, he is funny, and he's a passionate advocate.

00:26:03.000 We should be congratulating Karl Rove for a long, successful run.

00:26:07.000 This is a guy who elected a president twice, who's known as one of the most brilliant political activists of our time.

00:26:15.000 Stephanie, do you share the same sentiments about Karl Rove this morning?

00:26:17.000 Well, I think that he is clearly a brilliant mind.

00:26:20.000 Karl Rove is a superstar.

00:26:21.000 He is very insightful.

00:26:23.000 He's a great friend to the president.

00:26:25.000 And he's also a very broad thinker.

00:26:27.000 He is one of the more intelligent people that I know.

00:26:30.000 He's very quick-witted.

00:26:32.000 He's got a great sense of humor and the President will miss him.

00:26:35.000 I can't handle any more of it.

00:26:37.000 It goes on and on. 1.00

00:26:38.000 No, he's a degenerate piece of filth that decided to join and serve evil a long time ago. 1.00

00:26:45.000 He is an enemy of the Republic, and frankly, I don't want the piece of trash living here in my city, Austin, Texas. 0.99

00:26:51.000 And if I ever see him at a barbecue place, or I ever see him at the park or the movies, I'm gonna walk up and tell him I know he's part of the murder-op that was run on 9-11. 1.00

00:26:58.000 I'm gonna walk right up and go, you're a murderer, Karl Rove, you piece of trash! 1.00

00:27:04.000 Piece of filth! 1.00

00:27:06.000 All of them! 0.99

00:27:07.000 I'm sick of them!

00:27:10.000 His job was to pacify conservatives.

00:27:13.000 And by the way, you... 0.98

00:27:15.000 New World Order traitor, you failed when it came to your blanket amnesty and your spin.

00:27:21.000 And you don't control reality like you told the Washington Post two years ago, that all of us are on the sidelines and only you and the controllers matter. 1.00

00:27:30.000 You listen to me, you piece of trash. 0.99

00:27:33.000 We're going to take this Republic back and we're going to take this planet back with God's help. 1.00

00:27:38.000 And if you are still crawling around on the face of the earth, you're going to get seized and drug up and indicted.

00:27:44.000 You're going to be drug up in front of a grand jury and indicted. 1.00

00:27:46.000 And then we're going to put you on trial for hot treason, you little chicken neck piece of trash! 1.00

00:27:55.000 You arrogant piece of filth! 1.00

00:27:57.000 You're not that smart! 1.00

00:27:59.000 Only a delusional fruitcake would tell the Washington Press Corps at a cocktail party that you control reality! 0.97

00:28:06.000 You don't control anything!

00:28:10.000 That's why, I'm not glad that Mrs. Astor died at 105, but she was a very wicked New World Order, into eugenics, into this, just one of the richest, most wicked families. 0.99

00:28:22.000 And I've remembered all the evil things she'd been involved in, but last night I did about 10 minutes of refreshing research, and of course it was worse than I even thought. 0.75

00:28:29.000 Just an arrogant, huffy, vain, wicked, elitist, robber baron made all their money in opium in this country. 0.96

00:28:40.000 And it's the Great Equalizer. 1.00

00:28:42.000 You're dead now, aren't you?

00:28:45.000 Just like David Rockefeller and all the rest of them will.

00:28:47.000 All these arrogant people, all these people that are vain and think their power goes on and on and on and think that all the new technologies are going to extend their lives forever.

00:28:58.000 Death is the Great Equalizer. 0.98

00:28:59.000 It is 100% and we are all going to taste of it and you are weak.

00:29:07.000 Because you are afraid of death, and you do everything you can to cling to it for yourself, and you're so envious and jealous of others, and so greedy and covetous.

00:29:20.000 That's why you engage in eugenics and mass extermination and control and degradation of the weak and the innocent, because you enjoy it! 1.00

00:29:28.000 You enjoy taking other people's lives!

00:29:31.000 And so I'll say this, I don't shed a tear! 0.97

00:29:34.000 I don't shed a tear when you die.

00:29:38.000 When you rattle out your last breath. 0.95

00:29:40.000 I'll be right back.

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00:33:07.000 Because there's a war on for your mind. .

00:33:12.000 Coming up in about six, seven minutes, we're going to have Walter Reddy on.

00:33:17.000 He heads up Vote in the Sunshine website and organization.

00:33:21.000 They're suing the federal government over Diebold machines in the past, in the last election.

00:33:27.000 These have been decertified in Florida, California, many other areas.

00:33:30.000 They still use them.

00:33:30.000 We've had One of their chief, well, vice presidents in California, it turned out, was a convicted computer crimes felon, hacker.

00:33:40.000 We've had another engineer from Diebold quit and go public saying he was hired for fraud.

00:33:43.000 Other company chief engineers have gone public.

00:33:46.000 I mean, this is smoking gun stuff.

00:33:47.000 It's in regional papers in Ohio and Iowa and Florida and Texas and Colorado.

00:33:54.000 I mean, hundreds of them, but it's never really national news.

00:33:57.000 HBO had a special on it, but...

00:34:01.000 The problem here is we're getting to where we're learning to live with this.

00:34:05.000 So I'm going to throw out about three or four points.

00:34:07.000 We're going to bring Michael Rivera up for about five or six minutes just to give us his take on it.

00:34:11.000 He's got an excellent story up on whatreallyhappened.com, Fuzzy Math, the Iowa Straw Poll, because I want to get his take on it.

00:34:17.000 He's quite the technocrat when it comes to understanding how these systems work and the inside info on it from all of his research and all the people that he's interviewed.

00:34:30.000 But here's the problem.

00:34:32.000 12,000 more people paid to go in to vote than actually voted.

00:34:37.000 There were 26,000 plus people that purchased tickets, and there were only 14,302 votes.

00:34:44.000 Now, Ron Paul got 1,300 and some change votes, and old Mimp Romney got more than that and got first place.

00:34:57.000 So this isn't Fitting in with what common sense would show.

00:35:02.000 Also, we had a lot of callers who were there, and this is just basic feedback, it's not proof, but when added together it's icing on the cake, who were there and who would talk to thirty-five people on average.

00:35:16.000 One fellow said he talked to about thirty-five and four of them didn't vote for Ron Paul.

00:35:20.000 I mean, they're coming out and he's like, who'd you vote for?

00:35:22.000 Ron Paul!

00:35:24.000 Thirty-five people.

00:35:25.000 He said probably more, but roughly thirty-five and Four of them didn't vote for Ron Paul.

00:35:31.000 I've watched all these different newscasts from Iowa.

00:35:34.000 I spent a long time, Saturday and Sunday, watching local newscasts off websites.

00:35:40.000 And as it was happening, I watched some live feeds.

00:35:43.000 And it was seas of Ron Paul signs.

00:35:45.000 You see inside the arena, that's got three different polling places inside of it, but four different exits, you just see 80% Ron Paul supporters.

00:35:54.000 I mean, I watched a lot of video, I looked at it very carefully, analyzing it.

00:35:59.000 We're to believe with these, just at least 5,000 Ron Paul supporters there that showed up, that only 1,300 were able to vote, with tens of thousands going in the door.

00:36:09.000 Where are the 12,000 missing votes?

00:36:10.000 A. That doesn't make any sense.

00:36:12.000 And then, of course, we have decertified machines in many other states, certified, and then magically you have the malfunction.

00:36:19.000 Now, the malfunction with one machine, first we heard 1,500 votes, then 4,500 votes, With that one machine, then we heard, okay, it was two machines.

00:36:27.000 And then we heard, oh, they had to reset everything.

00:36:30.000 You see, they use one machine breaking down as an excuse to hold everything off, not announce the vote, and then go in and do what they need to do.

00:36:38.000 I can really tell you that, not just my gut, but the preponderance of evidence, that any fair jury would throw this vote out and say, have a new straw poll.

00:36:46.000 I mean, clearly the vote is in total question, and I would say about a 95% chance this was stolen.

00:36:53.000 Ron Paul is trying to be classy and going, well, I'm happy I showed up fifth and beat all these other people.

00:36:59.000 There's a lot of spin associated there.

00:37:01.000 Well, they're saying that McCain, who showed up, what, ninth, and you had Thompson, what, at eight, and Giuliani at seven.

00:37:11.000 Well, they didn't really run in the straw poll.

00:37:13.000 Which isn't true.

00:37:14.000 Their names were on there.

00:37:16.000 So there's also that spin going against Ron Paul.

00:37:20.000 But clearly there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.

00:37:24.000 Mike Rivera, I've tried to throw out some of the key points here.

00:37:27.000 Do you have any others or would you like to comment on those?

00:37:29.000 Well, you've hit most of the major ones there.

00:37:32.000 What is interesting to note is that in the news coverage of the Iowa Straw Poll, where they list the results, in a lot of cases, Ron Paul is simply dropped off the list, even though they discuss and report on people who did a poorer showing than he did.

00:37:46.000 And it just really reveals, in a very obvious way, just how scared of Ron Paul The mainstream media and the political elites are.

00:37:56.000 Now as far as the Iowa straw poll, there's two things to keep in mind.

00:37:59.000 First of all, Iowa is also the state where Pat Buchanan had the election stolen from him and that was pretty much documented.

00:38:07.000 And if you go back and you look at that BBC documentary on the stealing of the election in 2000, we're seeing the same thing.

00:38:14.000 You had the election being run by People who worked on the campaign... I forgot the key point, and we put an article out on this last night at InfoWars.net, that yes, you have one of the national members of the inner committee for Mitt Romney running the system, and don't forget, the poll was run by the Republican Party to begin with!

00:38:39.000 And the party itself very much considers Ron Paul an outsider because he doesn't support the pro-war platform.

00:38:46.000 Now, the other thing, what you were saying is all of these stories about the decertified voting machines and everything being carried in regional news only and never getting to the networks.

00:38:56.000 It's because the networks themselves own Voters News Service, which is the top of the pyramid of the vote fraud machinery going on.

00:39:04.000 So I am absolutely in agreement with you.

00:39:07.000 I don't believe the results of the Iowa Straw Poll, and I don't need an investigation to reaffirm what my instincts are already telling me, because you have to remember The purpose of the election is for some individual to say, I hold the legal authority over you, and the burden of proof is on them to prove that the election by which they claim that authority over us is fair and honest.

00:39:32.000 And if they can't prove it, Then we the people are not morally or legally obligated to obey their dictates or to pay their bills.

00:39:40.000 And Mike, out of the gates, I mean, when you talk about 12,000 missing votes, machines shutting down, 4,500 votes having to be redone, one of the national members in the inner circle of the Romney campaign running the whole operation, the Republicans running it, decertified Uh, machines.

00:40:01.000 And you add the exit polls by different independent groups saying, my gosh, it was almost all Ron Paul.

00:40:06.000 And then you've got Ron Paul people taking over the whole stadium.

00:40:09.000 And then, just magically, he gets $1,300.

00:40:11.000 We know that's a fraud on its face!

00:40:13.000 But here's the bigger news, and this is what I want Mike Rivera to talk about.

00:40:16.000 What do we do?

00:40:17.000 It's like I've gotten conditioned to accept this.

00:40:19.000 My riders have gotten conditioned.

00:40:21.000 We're so used to them stealing stuff right in front of us now.

00:40:23.000 I mean, I remember a Pat Buchanan in Arizona.

00:40:26.000 He clearly won.

00:40:27.000 I mean, here's an example in the primary.

00:40:29.000 I was there stacking the Scantrons to stick them in the computer counters.

00:40:34.000 Whenever Pat Buchanan ran in 1996 in the Republican primary.

00:40:38.000 And I remember more than half the ballots were for him.

00:40:42.000 And then he got like 8% of the vote in Travis County and I was going over to other tables and going, are you seeing Pat Buchanan on these?

00:40:48.000 As the big computers and on the screen were showing that he was losing.

00:40:51.000 I mean, I saw them steal it in Travis County.

00:40:54.000 I have seen it with my eyeballs, Mike!

00:40:57.000 What do we do?

00:40:58.000 Well, we're going to have to figure out what we need to do, because if we don't have honest elections, then we the people have lost control of the government of the United States, and we are the dictatorship that Bush used to joke about, or still likes to joke about.

00:41:11.000 And we're going to have to get those bad voting machines and systems out of our campaigns Uh, by any means possible, and I hate the implications of that, but as we saw going into the Iowa straw poll, the courts are on the side of the vote riggers, because Ron Paul's people went into the judge and said, the vote machines they are using are decertified for elections in other states, why are we using them here?

00:41:34.000 And the judge said, you must use these vote machines.

00:41:37.000 These are what we're going to run the election on?

00:41:38.000 And these are machines where there's no records, no nothing, it's just a black box, just trust us.

00:41:43.000 With a company run by a bunch of felons that openly is owned in Ohio and the owner of the company says, I will deliver votes to Bush.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, very much so.

00:41:52.000 It has become very open and transparent, and very arrogant, and what they're hoping, what the vote riggers are hoping, is that the American people will get used to it, that we'll just accept that it's the way these things are done, that we're not going to take action to try and get these vote machines out of our election systems, and if we don't, if we get used to it, then we have lost the country, And we're going to become just another third world banana republic.

00:42:14.000 We'll put this together.

00:42:15.000 Exactly.

00:42:16.000 Put this together with everything else happening.

00:42:18.000 PDE 51, John Warner Defense Authorization Act actually says martial law.

00:42:23.000 I've got an article today where they're going to give New York cops bonuses for quote, being more aggressive and mean to citizens.

00:42:30.000 I mean, they want everybody to know the feds are paying for cameras to go up coast to coast.

00:42:34.000 You know, even at four way stops in one horse towns. 0.98

00:42:36.000 I mean, Mike, I mean, it's pretty obvious they're going for broke here.

00:42:40.000 They absolutely are, and here's the thing that everybody needs to think about.

00:42:44.000 Right now, if they stopped here, the American people are okay up to this point with what's going on.

00:42:50.000 So if they're slamming the gate shut, And getting ready to do more cameras and more surveillance and more aggressive and more beat down.

00:42:56.000 It's because they're getting ready to take even more away from us.

00:43:00.000 More of our money, more of our freedoms.

00:43:02.000 This government is so broke they can't even make the interest payments on the debt.

00:43:06.000 And the only way that they're going to pay that debt down, since they have had so much trouble conquering the Mideast's oil, they're going to have to take that money out of us.

00:43:15.000 And any way that they can.

00:43:16.000 They're going to just drive the entire nation down into poverty so that they can pay their own bills just a little bit longer. 0.94

00:43:23.000 I hope the average cop out there listening who they want to enforce this and the average person in the military knows this is your future too, going right down the toilet.

00:43:30.000 I mean, Mike, if we stood up to them, they would probably back off and then try to restructure a little more calmly.

00:43:36.000 But I don't see that.

00:43:37.000 I see nothing but arrogant hubris like Karl Rove said.

00:43:39.000 They believe they control reality.

00:43:42.000 Well, you know, that hubris is their worst enemy because they have consistently misjudged the environment In which they do their lying and their propaganda because they've misjudged the impact of the internet, they've misjudged the impact of radio shows like ours, and they've misjudged just how informed the American people are.

00:44:00.000 And I think they're going to make a big critical mistake at some point, and we're going to see a situation in the U.S.

00:44:04.000 exactly like happened in Romania.

00:44:06.000 Two weeks before Ceaușescu was machine-gunned on national TV, nobody would have guessed that the Romanian people were that close to a revolution.

00:44:14.000 And I think we're likely to see the same event happen here in the United States.

00:44:18.000 Well, we're in a lot of trouble.

00:44:19.000 I'll tell you what happens when a revolution starts.

00:44:20.000 They're going to have the illegal aliens, through the groups that control them, set fires in a few places, and then they're going to claim, oh, the revolution is the illegals, and then try to get middle-class America to go along with the police state in the name of stopping the illegals. 0.51

00:44:36.000 Probably they're going to pull every dirty trick that they can, but again, with all these faked elections being this obvious, with all the lies about 9-11 and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, getting middle america to believe those lies that's going to be the real trick and if they start out one of these deception operations On the hopes that they're going to be believed, and then they're not.

00:44:56.000 That's going to be the initiating event that brings the whole mess down.

00:44:59.000 Well, you're on with us once a month.

00:45:00.000 You're coming up in a few weeks again.

00:45:02.000 Mike Rivera does his own show Saturday mornings from 11 to 1 Central Standard Time right here on the GCN Radio Network.

00:45:08.000 Mike, thank you so much for popping in with that great analysis.

00:45:11.000 Well, thank you for having me again on the show.

00:45:13.000 You bet.

00:45:14.000 There goes Mike Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

00:45:15.000 Okay, shifting gears to Walter Reddy, who was one of the sources for the article that Mike put out, the Fuzzy Math article.

00:45:22.000 Walter Reddy, just real fast out of the gates, tell us about your organization, just in a nutshell, what you've already been doing in Iowa with these machines, and then the exit polling you did that's just a sample, but then fits in with the other groups, Fair Tax and others that did samples, that also showed Ron Paul as winning.

00:45:42.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:45:45.000 I'm from Connecticut, but we went out there.

00:45:49.000 Our group was called Boat and Sunshine, and what we were doing there was to verify the boats from these machines.

00:45:57.000 What we had were verification cards.

00:45:59.000 We had all the people sign them, and we witnessed them.

00:46:04.000 Who they voted for and we got unfortunately we wish that we wanted to have more volunteers so we could have gotten a higher number but we got about 6% of the people that voted on those machines.

00:46:18.000 But if you got 6% and then expand that out to the 14,000 votes that were supposedly cast, what number do you come up with?

00:46:27.000 Ron Paul had 332, Huckabee 187, Tom Pancredo 150, Romney 90, but the Romney people weren't signing.

00:46:37.000 They were really arrogant.

00:46:40.000 Brownback 62, and then it went down like McCain 4 or whatever.

00:46:44.000 We had 897 signatures and affidavits.

00:46:48.000 We also had affidavits that were notarized.

00:46:51.000 And those things are more powerful in a court of law.

00:46:55.000 They're like gold in a court of law.

00:46:57.000 Now it's not just your organization, but there were other groups out there doing it.

00:47:01.000 I'm only aware of a couple others.

00:47:03.000 I didn't see any other group there.

00:47:04.000 We were at all the exits of where the people were coming out.

00:47:09.000 We also, what scared the Republican Party, and we were threatened with being arrested for handing out literature that quoted like the Los Angeles Times, New York Times.

00:47:21.000 HBO documentary, we had 30,000 brochures we handed, we were handing to the people.

00:47:27.000 And I was given permission by the Iowa campus police that it was fine.

00:47:34.000 Well since we're in America during electioneering, I mean, are you not allowed to hand out information?

00:47:39.000 Again, how far has this country fallen?

00:47:41.000 Who threatened you?

00:47:43.000 Who threatened you with arrest?

00:47:45.000 I'll tell you the names.

00:47:47.000 Sporrer was the Republican lawyer that came down on the Iowa Police.

00:47:51.000 Full name, full name, slowly.

00:47:53.000 Okay, okay.

00:47:54.000 The Iowa Police Captain Gene Dessinger said, you're fine, this is America.

00:48:00.000 He was totally in agreement.

00:48:01.000 He wanted his vote to count, everything.

00:48:04.000 The next day, the heavyweights from the Republican lawyers We're pressuring him.

00:48:10.000 They were stopping, holding our people, and with arrests, they handed out this literature.

00:48:18.000 What police group was he with?

00:48:20.000 Well, he was with the campus police, but he said, look, you know what?

00:48:25.000 They have a contract now.

00:48:27.000 He changed his whole thing from that you could hand out literature now that the GOP has a contract.

00:48:32.000 Yeah, private.

00:48:33.000 They always try this.

00:48:34.000 They say private corporations can ban free speech when they want, anywhere on the campus.

00:48:39.000 So you're there with 30,000 flyers you're trying to hand out.

00:48:41.000 Did you stand up against them?

00:48:43.000 Yes, we did.

00:48:44.000 And they backed down a little bit.

00:48:47.000 It discouraged some of our volunteers, but we wanted 100 and we only had about 12 left after some of them got scared away.

00:48:57.000 But the thing that really frightened them was we had counters at every single exit thing, and they knew that we were counting the number of people coming out.

00:49:07.000 So that number was pretty accurate, that 14,000, that's all that voted on those machines.

00:49:14.000 And so I think originally they were going to stuff the ballots because they could hack into them and stuff them with other, that's what we suspected.

00:49:22.000 Oh, you think they claimed a higher number of ticket sales and people actually showed up?

00:49:27.000 I think they were originally going to stuff it with more, like, Romney votes, you know?

00:49:32.000 But they knew we were counting.

00:49:35.000 But do you get what I'm saying?

00:49:36.000 I'm saying then, if there were really only 14,000 people there voting, but they claim they sold 20-something thousand tickets, do you think that those weren't even people that even existed?

00:49:46.000 That was going to be the stuff number?

00:49:49.000 That could have been.

00:49:50.000 And some of the people from out of state bought them too, just to get into the thing.

00:49:55.000 But the thing about it, this may be another reason why they waited so long.

00:50:00.000 They knew we had affidavits, sworn affidavits, and they didn't know what our numbers were, how many we collected.

00:50:09.000 Um, so they waited.

00:50:10.000 We were going to wait until after they announced the results at 7 o'clock.

00:50:14.000 The polling stopped at 6.

00:50:16.000 And they were going to announce theirs at 7.

00:50:18.000 We were going to go right after that.

00:50:21.000 We were counting ours.

00:50:22.000 And they waited until 8.30.

00:50:23.000 And I think they found out that we didn't have that many.

00:50:26.000 And that's when they finally came out with their numbers.

00:50:29.000 Now, I want to go over your numbers again.

00:50:31.000 We're about to break.

00:50:32.000 When we get back, go over those numbers.

00:50:34.000 What your exit polls, covering all the exits, showed with the 6% sample.

00:50:40.000 And that's a pretty good sample.

00:50:41.000 It's about what mainline media used to do with exit polls.

00:50:44.000 But see, now exit polls aren't announced locally.

00:50:47.000 They're sent up to voter news services run by a secret consortium of private media headed up by the AP.

00:50:54.000 So this is what's going to happen.

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00:54:00.000 You know, I've got so many questions for our guest.

00:54:10.000 I really appreciate the work he's doing.

00:54:13.000 Walter Reddy with the Vote in Sunshine Project.

00:54:20.000 The website's voteinsunshine.blogspot.com.

00:54:23.000 We have links to it up on infoawards.com.

00:54:27.000 Paul Watson's doing an article on this right now.

00:54:31.000 A rundown of everything that happened.

00:54:33.000 Bottom line, go through those numbers again and give us your synopsis as somebody who tracks election fraud.

00:54:39.000 Give us your breakdown.

00:54:41.000 Well, it was Ron Paul only with 6% of the votes that we verified with affidavits and verification cards.

00:54:52.000 But that's still considered a very good sample.

00:54:55.000 Yeah, we had Ron Paul at 332, Huckabee at 187.

00:55:02.000 Cain Crado at 150, Romney at 90, but Romney, like I said, the Romney people weren't signed, the many signing.

00:55:11.000 Why do you think they were so haughty and arrogant?

00:55:13.000 Oh, because, I don't know why, but they really...

00:55:20.000 Romney bought a lot of it.

00:55:21.000 Romney bust them all in.

00:55:21.000 I think it was always between Ron Paul and Romney.

00:55:27.000 Romney bought a lot of them.

00:55:28.000 Romney bust them all in.

00:55:29.000 Romney paid for them.

00:55:30.000 So from what you saw, who do you think really won?

00:55:33.000 I mean, from the numbers of Ron Paul people just versus Romney, who won?

00:55:36.000 It could have gone either way.

00:55:38.000 I mean, there was many, I think, Ron Paul.

00:55:40.000 And Alex, I think we can prove this in a court of law that he won this.

00:55:45.000 So, bottom line, bottom line, Ron Paul at least got second place from... At least, a close second, yeah.

00:55:52.000 I think he got more than 3,000 votes, really.

00:55:54.000 So, basically, it was neck and neck, too close to call.

00:55:57.000 He either got first or second place.

00:55:59.000 And would you say there's clear evidence of fraud then?

00:56:04.000 Absolutely, that's what we're going to try to prove because what we want to do, one of our organizers is a paralegal and we have an affidavit online that we would like all the people in Iowa that voted for Ron Paul to download it, fill it out, and send it back to us because that was solid evidence in a court of law and if we can get 1,306 votes at least to

00:56:32.000 That'll prove that that thing was all right.

00:56:34.000 Well, if the Ron Paul campaign called for this to happen, you would get 2,000 or 3,000 people that actually voted for him to do it.

00:56:40.000 The problem is they want to, and we disagree on a few issues, they want to continue to act genteel.

00:56:47.000 And Ron Paul's, well, we showed up fifth.

00:56:49.000 Good job, everybody.

00:56:50.000 You know, let's be good sports.

00:56:52.000 Well, when somebody keeps cheating over and over again, you know, this is bigger than Ron Paul.

00:56:56.000 This is our electoral system.

00:56:58.000 This is our voting system.

00:56:59.000 And it's clearly compromised.

00:57:00.000 My goodness.

00:57:01.000 They've been caught coast to coast.

00:57:02.000 Yeah, I'm also a plaintiff in a federal lawsuit.

00:57:06.000 Friday we fought with.

00:57:08.000 Thursday we filed a federal lawsuit against a county auditor, the state auditor, and the Republican chairman.

00:57:18.000 We wanted to get an injunction to stop these machines, and we brought in They had 60 Diebold machines there, and we brought 60 clear ballot boxes, and we wanted them to just set those Diebold machines aside.

00:57:34.000 It was... The judge ruled in favor of the Republican Party.

00:57:37.000 Yeah, let's be clear.

00:57:38.000 You're also the guys that went down and challenged this.

00:57:41.000 Yes.

00:57:42.000 And then, lo and behold, you were right.

00:57:45.000 The machines, quote, had the problem.

00:57:47.000 Yep, yep.

00:57:49.000 And it was the same attorney that put the pressure, that was in the courtroom, that put the pressure on the campus police to not even allow us to put out this literature.

00:57:59.000 What about one of Romney's high-level campaign members running the whole operation?

00:58:04.000 That's Mary Moisman, and I witnessed her being served.

00:58:09.000 These federal papers were mouth-dropped open.

00:58:12.000 An hour later, we were serving the chairman of the GOP.

00:58:17.000 Stay there! 0.92

00:58:18.000 Stay there! 0.92

00:58:19.000 We've got a break for 60 seconds and we'll come back in 5 minutes with you.

00:58:26.000 We were going to head into the political director.

00:58:29.000 He throws his head up and he goes, I'm not touching those.

00:58:32.000 Stay there.

00:58:34.000 Stay there.

00:58:35.000 We've got a break for 60 seconds, and we'll come back for five minutes with you, and then we've got Jerome Corsi coming on.

00:58:39.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com.

00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 We've only got about five minutes left with him.

00:59:22.000 I want to get him backed up tomorrow for a full hour if he can do it.

00:59:26.000 He's Walter Reddy, heads up the Vote Sunshine Project, shining the light for a fair and accurate vote in Ames, Iowa on August 11th.

00:59:35.000 And they're the folks that sued, they're the people that tried to block these machines that have been decertified in multiple states.

00:59:40.000 Diebold, the infamous company, the others are just as bad.

00:59:44.000 And sure enough, all the same shenanigans, all the same chicanery. 1.00

00:59:48.000 You've got about four minutes left, sir.

00:59:49.000 First off, I want to thank you for your dedication to our voting system in this country.

00:59:54.000 And do you agree that we should really call the Ron Paul campaign to look at your evidence and other evidence and speak out against this?

01:00:00.000 Because everybody just keeps... I mean, that's like Kerry, who I'm no fan of.

01:00:05.000 I mean, he clearly was part of the state event, too.

01:00:07.000 He didn't challenge the clear fraud in 2004.

01:00:10.000 We have to start challenging this.

01:00:12.000 I mean, this is not working.

01:00:14.000 Alex, I think the best thing that we can do right now is try to reach all the Iowan people that voted for Ron Paul and give them this affidavit.

01:00:23.000 They can download it or somehow get to them because that will, in a court of law, that will hold up.

01:00:32.000 We're going right now with this other case.

01:00:35.000 The federal judge, just the court, only said, he ruled it not for the injunction.

01:00:43.000 He didn't rule that it was frivolous or anything else.

01:00:45.000 And then sure enough, the machines shut down and some weird stuff happened, and so now it looks like you can get the whole thing thrown out maybe.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, we're going, we're taking it to the U.S.

01:00:54.000 Court of Appeals.

01:00:55.000 They already know there's merit to this case, so it's not over yet.

01:01:04.000 Which Court of Appeals?

01:01:05.000 Which Court of Appeals is that?

01:01:06.000 Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals.

01:01:10.000 So are you calling on Ron Paul to do anything?

01:01:13.000 Well, actually, what I really would like to... We really need these affidavits because that will prove it.

01:01:19.000 I mean, we have over 300 Right now.

01:01:24.000 And we only need another thousand just to prove that.

01:01:28.000 Where do people go if they were in the Iowa Straw Poll?

01:01:31.000 And Ron Paul said it on this show that the majority of his supporters are right here.

01:01:36.000 That's word for word, by the way.

01:01:37.000 I mean, he says when he goes around the country, the majority of people bring up this show.

01:01:41.000 So you're there, you were in Iowa, folks, or you witnessed this.

01:01:43.000 Where do they go?

01:01:44.000 Because you've got two different sites, I see.

01:01:46.000 Which site do they go to, Mr. Reddy, to overturn this?

01:01:52.000 You can go to votefraud.org and then it's a little bit weird.

01:01:57.000 You have to click on Iowa straw poll and then click on the affidavit.

01:02:02.000 Um, because that, if they download that, they can print it out, sign it, just bring it to the local... Okay, we'll put a specific link up to the very sub-page of an article coming out later.

01:02:13.000 And folks, this is a major action here.

01:02:15.000 I mean, even if you don't support Ron Paul, you should support transparency and accountability and a recount capability in the voting systems.

01:02:27.000 We are in a constitutional crisis.

01:02:28.000 Do you agree, Mr. Reddy?

01:02:30.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:02:31.000 What we're trying to do in the federal court is get rid of all these machines, electronic voting machines.

01:02:37.000 Well, my gosh!

01:02:38.000 I mean, they've been proven to be complete frauds.

01:02:40.000 By design, they need to all be removed immediately.

01:02:42.000 Yep, and it's very simple.

01:02:44.000 I brought the 60 The clear ballot boxes, if you get them a dollar a box, you have them right out on the table, you cast your ballot in the open, and you count it in the open, so everybody knows that they're not hidden, they're not taken into a back room or a black box, and we count them right there, and it's the best, I think it's the best system.

01:03:09.000 We could have counted that thing in an hour by hand.

01:03:13.000 I mean, it's not...

01:03:14.000 Not that difficult to do it.

01:03:16.000 Well, we need to take action and take action now, and it's people like you, Mr. Reddy, that are going to save this country, and maybe even this planet, because the U.S.

01:03:24.000 is the key right now in the entire geopolitical system.

01:03:27.000 And continue to sue, continue to do exit polls.

01:03:31.000 More volunteers should have been there with you.

01:03:33.000 The 90 people that got scared off shouldn't have.

01:03:36.000 We would have gotten a higher number.

01:03:37.000 And just next time, no, folks, you can't let them scare you off.

01:03:40.000 They're scaring you off because they've got something to hide.

01:03:43.000 Mr. Reddy, thank you for joining us.

01:03:45.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:03:46.000 Stay right there, I'd like to talk to you during the break.

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01:07:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:15.000 Well, Dr. Jerome Corsi, Ph.D.

01:07:19.000 in Political Science, We'll be joining us in about two minutes here on air to talk about his trip to Canada for the North American Union Summit that's going on.

01:07:29.000 It kicks off over this weekend into next week.

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01:07:37.000 We really appreciate that.

01:07:39.000 Going back to Walter Reddy real fast from Vote in Sunshine Coalition.

01:07:43.000 They did the exit poll showing that Ron Paul at least came in second, not fifth.

01:07:48.000 And he's the guy that, he's the group that served the Republicans, showing these die-bolt machines had been decertified, and I wanted him to, because he told me off-air, I wanted him to just briefly, and we'll go to Dr. Corsi, briefly tell people what happened once he served them, and he saw this Mitt Romney minion that was running the election as well, what they did.

01:08:07.000 He said they were screaming and cussing and yelling at him.

01:08:09.000 Now don't say what they said on air, just you can paraphrase it, but tell folks what happened once you served them.

01:08:16.000 Well, we first served Mary Moisman.

01:08:19.000 She's the county auditor who is in charge of the voting count.

01:08:28.000 And we were told that she's also a Romney advisor.

01:08:31.000 Yeah, that's been confirmed now.

01:08:33.000 Go ahead.

01:08:35.000 And then we went over to the Iowa State campus, the GOP headquarters in there, and we were looking for Ray Hoffman, who's the chairman of the Republican Party.

01:08:49.000 The woman, you know, is evading. 1.00

01:08:50.000 I said, could you tell me where he is?

01:08:54.000 And she said, no, no, I can't.

01:08:57.000 And Craig Robinson comes walking by.

01:08:59.000 He's the political director.

01:09:01.000 So we knew that we could give it to him.

01:09:05.000 And he said he wasn't in the building.

01:09:08.000 So we said, well, could you give him these papers?

01:09:10.000 And he goes, I'm not touching those.

01:09:11.000 And he throws his hands up.

01:09:16.000 Threw him at his feet, you know, he wouldn't touch him.

01:09:19.000 So we, we, sir, he goes, you're served federal papers.

01:09:23.000 And, uh, the woman behind the desk comes running out. 1.00

01:09:26.000 She goes, you pick these up, we'll call them the police.

01:09:29.000 She kicks them all across the floor.

01:09:31.000 They all run back into this one room.

01:09:33.000 So go over and bang on the door and about 10 of them could run it out, including the police chief or the campus police.

01:09:40.000 They're all screaming at the top of their lungs.

01:09:44.000 Yeah, they're in there.

01:09:45.000 Because they're the ones that get to vote in America.

01:09:47.000 Just that little handful. 0.98

01:09:48.000 Alright, we'll talk to you again tomorrow, Walter.

01:09:50.000 Thanks for coming on with us.

01:09:51.000 Alright, great.

01:09:53.000 Absolutely.

01:09:54.000 We're going to continue to expose all of this, and we're not going to stop.

01:09:57.000 Okay?

01:09:58.000 And look, they fooled everybody by letting the Democrats get in with these machines.

01:10:00.000 The Democrats are all part of the same club.

01:10:02.000 Roger Ailes and Fox News, it's now been admitted, are behind Hillary.

01:10:07.000 It goes back to the Bushes before that.

01:10:09.000 Eleven meetings.

01:10:10.000 The Clintons were already vacationing with the Bushes before that.

01:10:13.000 Clinton's been CIA since he got sheep-dipped in the late 60s.

01:10:17.000 It's staged, folks.

01:10:18.000 And the sooner we come to realization of that, the sooner we're going to get our republic back.

01:10:23.000 It's an enemy class, all intermarried. 1.00

01:10:25.000 It's like Mary Madeline and James Carville.

01:10:27.000 Or it's like the two brothers.

01:10:30.000 One's a Republican, one's a Democrat.

01:10:34.000 The Bensons.

01:10:34.000 I mean, it's the same thing over and over again.

01:10:38.000 Dr. Corsi now joins us, and last week we were going to have him on, but this meltdown of the economy happened.

01:10:43.000 Later I learned, not only does he have a PhD in political science from Harvard, but he also used to be a big stock trader.

01:10:50.000 We can also get his take on that because there's been a lot of infusions.

01:10:53.000 What is it, 400 billion plus now by the European Central Bank, the Federal Reserve Central Bank, and the Japanese and Chinese Central Banks.

01:11:00.000 So definitely weird stuff going on there.

01:11:03.000 But he's about to get on a plane and go up to Canada.

01:11:05.000 And Dr. Corsi, thanks for coming on with us.

01:11:09.000 It's a great pleasure to be with you, Alex.

01:11:10.000 Thank you very much.

01:11:11.000 I'm happy to be back.

01:11:12.000 You bet.

01:11:13.000 Has my producer lined up specifically when we're getting you on Sunday afternoon and Monday yet, or do we need to do that?

01:11:17.000 We need to set times, and I'll be happy to do it.

01:11:19.000 I'm flying up on Sunday to observe... I've applied for credentials with WorldNetDaily to report on the Security and Prosperity Partnership's third summit that's going to be held on the 20th and 21st next week up in Montebello, Quebec in Canada.

01:11:36.000 They're Ottawa, and I'm going to go up and report on it personally.

01:11:39.000 Have they given you credentials yet?

01:11:41.000 Not yet.

01:11:41.000 I haven't gotten them yet.

01:11:42.000 Well, WorldNet Daily has 10,000 place rankings above the Dallas Morning News, and is almost as big online as the LA Times, but they'll probably say it's not media.

01:11:53.000 Well, we'll have to wait and see, Alex.

01:11:54.000 I think it'll be a story if they deny us credentials.

01:11:56.000 I'll make a story out of that itself.

01:11:59.000 But, you know, it's like I point out in And the book, The Late Great U.S.A.

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01:13:13.000 Dr. Corsi, let's get into some of the new developments.

01:13:15.000 There's so many each week.

01:13:17.000 With the North American Union, there is a new nation, the hardcore socialist publication that poses as mainline liberal a maven of disinformation, an organ of established propaganda.

01:13:32.000 Of course, its editor and many of its chieftains there are Council on Foreign Relations members who authored the SPP U.S.

01:13:39.000 Wrecking Plan.

01:13:40.000 They've now put out a huge hit piece saying none of it exists and we are just all, you included, are complete liars, that we are delusional.

01:13:48.000 It actually says we are just completely insane and it doesn't exist, Dr. Corsi.

01:13:52.000 Well, I'll have a piece on this on World Death Daily tomorrow.

01:13:56.000 You're right, it's Katrina Vanden Heuvel, who is part owner, the publisher, One of the editors at The Nation.

01:14:03.000 She is the editor and publisher.

01:14:06.000 Since 1995, she's been the editor.

01:14:08.000 Since 2005, the publisher.

01:14:09.000 She's counsel on foreign relations.

01:14:11.000 It was typically a hit piece.

01:14:15.000 Christopher Hayes says there is no NAFTA superhighway, and then he spends the rest of the article validating everything we've been saying about the Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:14:25.000 It's more just, you know, gaming semantics and trying to... Well, I talked to Bob Dacey, who's in the article, and who was here in Austin, and they had a long lunch, and he gave them the SPP documents, he gave them text documents that said NAFTA highway system, and then the guy just said, no, that's not real!

01:14:43.000 Well, this particular author, Christopher Hayes, was less than honest.

01:14:48.000 In terms of his journalistic standards, they were pretty low.

01:14:51.000 Because he accepted only the evidence that he wanted to accept, and he wrote the story he was sent out to write.

01:14:57.000 He quotes, for instance, NASCO, the North American Super Corridor Coalition, and buys their ridiculous distinction that a North American Super Corridor is not a NAFTA superhighway.

01:15:09.000 And on the website of NASCO, they say directly that there is a NAFTA superhighway.

01:15:15.000 It already exists.

01:15:16.000 It's Interstate 35.

01:15:18.000 So Christopher Hayes is supporting NASCO in the story, and their position, without realizing that NASCO itself admits there's a NAFTA superhighway.

01:15:26.000 I mean, it's a whole ridiculous gaming of semantics and denying the obvious.

01:15:32.000 I don't know what's so frightful and fearful to the nation, or to, you know, those who want to deny a North American Union the integration with Mexico and Canada is going on, that they can't even admit we have a NAFTA superhighway.

01:15:46.000 I've documented government reports going back to 1998 that call I-35 the NAFTA Superhighway Government Report.

01:15:54.000 It's been on our news here, back when they used to push it like it was a good idea.

01:15:57.000 Now they pull their horns in and are just denying it exists.

01:15:59.000 But we see this on so many subjects, like the amnesty.

01:16:03.000 They said it's not an amnesty, but the bill's secret, you can't see it.

01:16:06.000 Then we get the bill and it's worse than amnesty.

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01:16:18.000 I mean, it wasn't amnesty, it was just the end of the country!

01:16:21.000 Well, you know, I document this.

01:16:23.000 On page 13 of the Late Great USA, I show, you know, that Teddy Fox, when he first came into office, was openly talking about the North American Union.

01:16:31.000 And I went and found this editorial in the Wall Street Journal.

01:16:34.000 It was written by Robert Bartley.

01:16:37.000 Who was then the editor of the Wall Street Journal.

01:16:39.000 He published it on January 21st, 2001.

01:16:42.000 And he says, reformist president, uh, Vincente Fox, raised his eyebrows with his suggestion that over a decade or two, NAFTA should evolve into something like the European Union.

01:16:53.000 Well, Bartlett then says, Vincente Fox can rest assured there's one voice north of the Rio Grande that supports that vision, and it's this newspaper.

01:17:01.000 Well, there's the Wall Street Journal before it became, you know, the strategy To deny that there was a North American Union, to deny that there was NAFTA superhighways, early on, even the Wall Street Journal went openly into print saying it embraced the idea of a North American Union.

01:17:17.000 They won't do that anymore.

01:17:18.000 Dr. Corsi, and I've been talking a lot about this, every guest I have on I ask about this now, because it really is a quandary for myself.

01:17:27.000 Because we've always seen lying by the mainline media, but now, it has become really self-destructive, because if they argued for the North American Union, they would have more success than just setting it up, building it in front of us, and then bald-faced lying.

01:17:42.000 As people learn they're lying, won't that just backfire on them, and then regardless, people will be against the system?

01:17:48.000 Well, absolutely, but again, like I show in the book, the whole movement, even in Europe, It started from bad conscience.

01:17:54.000 I mean, you've got Jean Monnet, a Frenchman who was one of the leading architects of the European Union, and he decided at the end of World War II, you know, the French lost two world wars to the Germans if it wasn't for the United States.

01:18:08.000 Stealth approach.

01:18:09.000 A stealth approach.

01:18:10.000 And guilty conscience.

01:18:12.000 So they began by lying and saying, no, this is just economic union.

01:18:16.000 We don't intend to make it a European Union, even though they knew That the economic knitting together of the countries would demand a regional government.

01:18:26.000 They lied, and that's their approach, and they're continuing the same approach with the North American Union.

01:18:33.000 They just had their 50th anniversary.

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01:23:08.000 Folks, don't procrastinate. 0.99

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01:23:28.000 It also then supports Dr. Corsi's work, and we're scheduled, as they say, to get these next Monday.

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01:23:50.000 Buy a couple copies of the late, great USA because people, you know, we read the documents so we know what liars they are.

01:23:59.000 But here's an example.

01:24:01.000 One of my graphics guys on the new film Endgame, his mom's a big Republican, big conservative, and she read some of Jerome Corsi's articles.

01:24:11.000 She heard him on this radio show, other radio shows.

01:24:15.000 And so her and her friend are going up to Canada I mean, they're little Christian ladies. 0.67

01:24:20.000 They decided to go up from Texas up to Canada just to observe what's happening.

01:24:27.000 And now they've kind of gotten scared, he was saying, about all the police and what they heard about.

01:24:31.000 And then they also asked her son, she said, is it really real?

01:24:35.000 Because the media says it's not.

01:24:37.000 And I think for normal people, mainline folks, Dr. Corsi, to just have the government and have the media lie, just ball-faced, it kind of takes them back.

01:24:49.000 Puts them off balance.

01:24:50.000 I mean, what would you say to people like that?

01:24:52.000 Well, first of all, people have got to get over trusting the government.

01:24:56.000 It's something that, you know, we're all conditioned to do.

01:24:58.000 Trust your parents aren't going to lie to you, the government's not going to lie to you, your religious advisors are not going to lie to you.

01:25:04.000 You know, we're living in an age where religious advisors may be pedophiles, and the government habitually lies.

01:25:12.000 This book, I published with 235 pages.

01:25:14.000 30 pages of it are footnotes.

01:25:18.000 I wanted to give you the ability to go to see the government documents with your own eyes.

01:25:22.000 It's fully validated with government documents.

01:25:26.000 Just like what I write in World Net Daily.

01:25:28.000 You can click the hot links and you'll see, pop up in front of you, the government documents that I'm describing.

01:25:34.000 These documents exist.

01:25:36.000 It's like the four football field wide trans-Texas corridor.

01:25:41.000 You know, people have denied that right up until the eminent domain notices are ready to go out the door.

01:25:46.000 But they're building the feeder spurs into it. 0.98

01:25:49.000 Yes they are.

01:25:50.000 And saying that what they're building around Austin is a support mechanism for it.

01:25:54.000 And then Mexico's announcing they're going to get inland ports in San Antonio and Kansas City.

01:25:59.000 And Denver.

01:26:00.000 And Denver.

01:26:01.000 Denver's also an inland port.

01:26:03.000 And then they say it doesn't exist when it's on the Kansas City government website.

01:26:06.000 It's on the Kansas City Smartport website.

01:26:08.000 It's on There's now the Ports to Plains Corridor, which is going to take the I-35 model, you know, the Trans-Texas Corridor 4 football field model, and it's going to build it right up through the panhandle of Oklahoma into Denver by Lyman on Interstate 70.

01:26:25.000 And you go there to the Ports to Plains Corridor Coalition and see the Trans-Texas document on that website adapted for Denver, Colorado.

01:26:35.000 It all exists.

01:26:36.000 The documentation is there.

01:26:38.000 Just don't take the time to look at it.

01:26:40.000 I want to give you the tools so it's easy in the book, easy on the world at Daily Articles, to go see with your own eyes that this is happening and not... Now, who are you going to believe?

01:26:50.000 It's like the country western song says, your own lying eyes.

01:26:53.000 The government telling you it doesn't exist.

01:26:53.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:26:55.000 Well, the articles Bob Dacey writes for us at InfoWars.com, the articles that Steve Watson or Paul Watson write, and the articles that you write, all of us, we are neurotic.

01:27:03.000 All the same.

01:27:04.000 In the truth movement, in the alternative media, whatever you want to call it, and there's all shades and flavors of it, about documenting what we say.

01:27:11.000 We link directly to the federal government's documents, directly to SPP.

01:27:16.000 I mean, here's an example.

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01:27:25.000 They've already gone to the step of starting to bilaterally merge those.

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01:27:35.000 They signed a transatlantic EU-US bilateral cooperation agreement, and we created, at the cabinet level, a government White House official whose job it is to integrate with the EU, and that's a continental integration.

01:27:53.000 The United States, our whole Moving merger with Mexico and Canada.

01:27:57.000 And they said all functions, all functions.

01:28:00.000 Right.

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01:35:01.000 Now, your headline was, Bush Power Grab.

01:35:03.000 I read it, and he, you know, new powers he granted himself, where he says, For any emergency, anywhere in the world, even economic, I'm over all the other branches of government directing the response.

01:35:16.000 Then, as if you and I and our analysis weren't correct when it was as plain as the nose on our face, and many other scholars, scholars with law degrees, not just PhDs in political science like yourself, and I'm a layman who's been studying this and become quite proficient in understanding it, Then the Homeland Security, first one member, then two members, then the chairman, this has all been in the mainstream news, said, we'd like to see that plan.

01:35:40.000 And the President says, no, the Homeland Security Committee, with the highest security clearance, can't see it.

01:35:48.000 Dr. Corsi, I mean, that only makes your analysis that much more vetted and Documented, and validated, vindicated.

01:35:57.000 I mean, this is not good at all.

01:35:59.000 This is getting scary.

01:36:00.000 Why do you think they're moving to put this in place?

01:36:03.000 Well, I think they're anticipating that there's going to be the kind of... You know, Robert Pastor, when I interviewed him, he's the academic at American University who's been writing for 10 years to create a North American community.

01:36:16.000 Pastor said the next 9-11 is what's needed to create the North American community. 1.00

01:36:21.000 You know, that frightened me, when he was saying the next kind of national or continental emergency could push this merger agenda.

01:36:31.000 I wrote an article, it's in World Net Daily, it was yesterday, and I had it at the end of last week.

01:36:37.000 I've been interviewing Henry Quayler, C-U-E-L-L-A-R, he's a Democratic congressman from Laredo, Texas, and he's put me onto Ambassador Garza, Tony Garza, our Ambassador to Mexico, has negotiated with Felipe Calderon and his government, President of Mexico, that we're now going to give military assistance to Mexico to fight the drug war.

01:37:02.000 This is the first time we're talking about, again, more sovereignty issues.

01:37:06.000 We're going to use the U.S. 1.00

01:37:07.000 military in a continental emergency overdraw.

01:37:12.000 And we have the Mexican military here for Katrina. 0.94

01:37:15.000 Any excuse they can to openly condition the public.

01:37:19.000 And so, you know, now it's going to be discussed at the Security and Prosperity Partnership meeting in Montebello next week.

01:37:25.000 But the plan is at least to provide Mexico, Mexico's military, with equipment, training, and technology for the U.S.

01:37:35.000 military.

01:37:38.000 It's the first time I can think of where we've had U.S.

01:37:41.000 military, it's an admission that Mexico is losing the drug war, it's an admission that Mexico's military is likely in bed with the drug terrorists, and it validates the document that Judicial Watch got that shows there's been over 300 incursions of the Mexican military.

01:37:59.000 Supporting drug trafficking, coming across incursions in the U.S.

01:38:02.000 Well, Los Gatos is running rocket attacks and hand grenade attacks right on the border.

01:38:02.000 border.

01:38:06.000 They've had truck bombs in Dallas, but it's all kept real quiet.

01:38:10.000 Kept quiet, but this is a clear indication, the first time...

01:38:14.000 That Felipe Calderon is saying that his Mexican military is losing the war on drugs. 0.58

01:38:20.000 Well, what's happened is they've been corrupt all along. 0.97

01:38:22.000 They've been corrupt.

01:38:23.000 And now the corruption has bred to the point where the government itself is in danger of completely collapsing.

01:38:28.000 Well, Smith, here's the problem.

01:38:29.000 SPP, the Security and Prosperity Partnership, has us merging with Mexico.

01:38:34.000 People can't understand.

01:38:35.000 I can't explain except for SPP.

01:38:37.000 Why six years into a war on terror, George Bush has not secured our borders with Mexico and Canada.

01:38:43.000 But Pastor says we're going to have a continental security perimeter.

01:38:48.000 Well yes, and that's the vision they're trying to project.

01:38:50.000 But you know, when Mexico is a drug cartel controlled country, it's not possible to merge with Mexico without Getting their corruption and their drugs.

01:38:59.000 Yeah, it's not like we have Japan or Germany bordering us, which are civilized, you know, modern places. 0.63

01:39:05.000 Mexico is in the top five, even by the UN, most corrupt, dangerous nations.

01:39:11.000 It's rated as the most dangerous for reporters in the world. 0.86

01:39:15.000 They have the most billionaires of any country per capita because the richest man in the world is from there now because they're so corrupt and their people are so poor.

01:39:23.000 I mean, this... I couldn't think of a more nasty country to be merged with. 0.93

01:39:26.000 That's right.

01:39:27.000 About three months ago, I attended in El Salvador, at the FBI's invitation, this anti-gang conference.

01:39:33.000 There were 13 countries, from Central America and Mexico, and the FBI announced that this MS-13, the tattooed, machete-wielding, drug-dealing gang... By the way, they're all over the place in Austin.

01:39:46.000 It's as if thousands were disgorged on the streets, and it's like suddenly.

01:39:50.000 Well, they're in 42 states and 2,500 American communities.

01:39:54.000 And what the FBI has announced is they're working hand-in-hand with the drug cartels.

01:40:00.000 They're the distribution system for the drugs.

01:40:02.000 They have a gun trade going back into Mexico and Central America, and they're becoming intertwined with the terrorist elements like Al-Qaeda.

01:40:11.000 All these bad elements are working together.

01:40:13.000 George Bush wants to say, we can merge with Mexico and not worry about a war on terror.

01:40:18.000 See, that's exactly what they want, though.

01:40:20.000 I mean, I think you've got it, Alex, because They're preparing for a continental crisis, which will then allow the President to use these emergency powers he's declared, which will push forward the North American agenda.

01:40:36.000 We'll be told the only way we can solve the Mexican drug problem is if we basically merge with Mexico and let the U.S.

01:40:42.000 military go handle the problem.

01:40:45.000 It should, first of all, be a law enforcement problem, and we should have the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration in there, not the U.S.

01:40:52.000 military.

01:40:53.000 That point just gets ignored in the discussion because the U.S.

01:40:57.000 military is not designed as a first-line law enforcement agency.

01:41:02.000 It's for foreign wars. 0.99

01:41:04.000 We're using it in a continental domestic situation that has implications across the border and should be a U.S.

01:41:10.000 federal law enforcement agency.

01:41:12.000 And we should be immediately saying, secure the border.

01:41:15.000 Build a fence and stop the drug traffic.

01:41:18.000 But no, that's not what we're saying.

01:41:20.000 We're saying keep the border wide open, and forget about the DEA, send the U.S. 0.71

01:41:25.000 But Dr. Corsi, it's a perfect scam.

01:41:25.000 military.

01:41:28.000 The drug war only gets bigger and bigger.

01:41:30.000 More people go to prison.

01:41:31.000 It's designed to not be won.

01:41:33.000 It's designed to spiral out of control.

01:41:36.000 And then they get to bring more and more.

01:41:38.000 I mean, that's how they started secretly.

01:41:39.000 Getting rid of posse comitatus in the 80s, having Marines and Army dress up in police uniforms to quote, assist them in Virginia and other places.

01:41:48.000 So this is a very quiet process, but it's ongoing.

01:41:51.000 Well, what I'm getting ready to report world-wide daily is that the coffee production in Afghanistan has never been greater than it has under American occupation.

01:42:01.000 The Taliban had actually just about ended it and transferred those tribes to producing agricultural goods.

01:42:08.000 And now the poppies and heroin from Afghanistan is getting routed into the United States through, guess where?

01:42:15.000 Mexico.

01:42:16.000 Mexico has become not only for Colombia, for cocaine and for marijuana, but now for heroin from the Middle East. 0.85

01:42:25.000 Mexico has become the delivery system through the drug cartels.

01:42:29.000 And if this doesn't bode for international mixture with terrorists, I don't know what does.

01:42:35.000 And again, the Bush administration, this has grown under the Bush administration.

01:42:41.000 It has not at all stopped.

01:42:43.000 The FBI is about ready to declare that MS-13 is virtually out of control.

01:42:48.000 The FBI has now stationed FBI agents permanently in El Salvador to help fight MS-13 in the United States.

01:42:59.000 Because the gang goes back and forth across the borders, operates with the drug cartels.

01:43:03.000 Look, it's simple.

01:43:04.000 The non-enforcement of illegal aliens, the 800 plus sanctuary cities...

01:43:10.000 are protecting them.

01:43:12.000 You can't miss an MS-13.

01:43:13.000 They've shaved heads.

01:43:15.000 They've got tattoos all over their faces.

01:43:17.000 They're suddenly everywhere, bugging their eyes out and strutting around.

01:43:21.000 We need them to be arrested right now and shipped out of here.

01:43:24.000 Hey, where's your green card?

01:43:25.000 Don't have it?

01:43:26.000 Boom! 0.99

01:43:27.000 You're shipped out of here.

01:43:28.000 You come back next time, we're going to send you for five years hard labor busting rocks.

01:43:32.000 Look what's coming up here.

01:43:34.000 It's designed to totally have crime run rampant.

01:43:37.000 Then the chicken-neck public will beg for a bigger police state! 0.99

01:43:40.000 This is a problem, reaction, solution!

01:43:42.000 And what I'm looking for the next... Here's what I see as the next round, too.

01:43:46.000 We've now got 1 out of every 10 people born in Mexico living in the United States today as Mexican citizens.

01:43:53.000 That's going to be, by 2010 or 2015, 1 out of every 5 people born in Mexico living in the United States as Mexican citizens.

01:44:02.000 With 40 Mexican Consular Office is here in the United States to protect the civil rights of these foreign Mexican nationals living in the United States, voting in Mexico.

01:44:13.000 Now Alex, it's only a matter of time till one of these Mexican nationals, maybe in the commission of a crime or someone to stop a rape or a burglary in their home, shoots or kills one of these Mexican nationals. 0.93

01:44:26.000 And the next thing the Mexican Consulate is going to do to defend the civil rights of the The criminal Mexican National is going to say, you know, the Second Amendment has to go. 0.98

01:44:34.000 There's too many guns in this community.

01:44:37.000 Our Mexican Nationals are no longer safe.

01:44:39.000 That's the next attack that I see on the horizon.

01:44:43.000 Well, we've seen SPP documents and others where they talk about harmonizing the laws to Mexico.

01:44:47.000 So there'll be no Second Amendment.

01:44:48.000 We're all going to be peeing on slaves, just like in Mexico. 1.00

01:44:51.000 And there'll be no First Amendment, because increasingly what these Mexican councilors are going to do is say any speech, any discussion, That damages the civil rights of the Mexican nationals living here.

01:45:04.000 Look, in the Ramos and Compian case, two Border Patrol agents were in federal prison for shooting after a fleeing drug smuggler.

01:45:11.000 The drug smuggler, Aldrete de Villa, testified on the stand.

01:45:15.000 He admitted he was a drug smuggler.

01:45:17.000 And second, guess what?

01:45:18.000 He had a commercial driver's license in Mexico.

01:45:22.000 The drug smuggler.

01:45:23.000 There's no commercial, there's no national criminal database.

01:45:27.000 Anybody with the money can get a commercial driver's license in Mexico, and we're getting ready through the Department of Transportation to open the borders to 100 Mexican trucking companies and validate through SPP with electronics their commercial driver's licenses as trusted traders.

01:45:43.000 Aldrete de Vila would have qualified.

01:45:48.000 And still today, if you look at the Drug Enforcement Administration's reports, The vast majority of drugs are being brought into the United States through Mexico now, of all kinds.

01:45:59.000 They're being brought in by truck.

01:46:00.000 Methamphetamine production has moved to Mexico, it's left the United States largely.

01:46:06.000 Marijuana is coming in through Mexico, and now heroin and cocaine are coming in through Mexico.

01:46:12.000 Mexico is the delivery system that's the route Where the drug cartels control drugs into the United States.

01:46:18.000 But we can't shut down the border, we can't arrest the MS-13.

01:46:22.000 We've got a SWAT team in people's houses looking for marijuana.

01:46:25.000 Exactly.

01:46:26.000 And, you know, there's... The fact is the Bush administration will not secure the border.

01:46:33.000 And the idea of sending in the military to go after the drug cartels I don't think even that's going to be effective.

01:46:41.000 All you're going to do is get the right of the U.S.

01:46:44.000 government suddenly to be in a continental military involvement, whether it's effective or not.

01:46:51.000 It will merge with Mexico's military and we'll be acting together as a continental pact.

01:46:55.000 Well, we know what this is about.

01:46:56.000 They're just going, the Mexican military is going to direct the U.S. 0.93

01:47:00.000 military towards cartels that aren't part of the inner circle.

01:47:03.000 We all know this is going to be a drug war by the big banks that launder the money using U.S. 0.52

01:47:09.000 soldiers as the cannon fodder to secure drug profits.

01:47:12.000 And right now, we have U.S.

01:47:13.000 NORTHCON.

01:47:14.000 Which is the command set up in Cheyenne Mountain.

01:47:17.000 It's designed to use the U.S.

01:47:19.000 military in domestic emergency situations.

01:47:22.000 Canada Command works hand-in-hand with U.S.

01:47:26.000 NORTHCOM with the same mission.

01:47:28.000 Using the Canadian military and working with the U.S.

01:47:31.000 military in continental emergencies.

01:47:33.000 Mexico has stayed out of that.

01:47:35.000 Now with this drug issue, Mexico is asking for the U.S.

01:47:40.000 military involvement.

01:47:41.000 It's opening the door for Mexico to become part of the Continental Military Command.

01:47:47.000 Well, if you read the NORTHCOM agreements, NOAA agreements in 2002, for Mexico and Canada, Canadian forces to engage in peacekeeping operations, disaster relief, and anti-terror operations inside the U.S.

01:48:03.000 And Mexico has stayed out of that.

01:48:05.000 Now Mexico's coming in. 1.00

01:48:07.000 This is the first door opener.

01:48:09.000 Ambassador Garza Talking with Felipe Calderon to get an agreement to put the Mexican military working with the US military for the first time.

01:48:19.000 Now, when that's accomplished, we will have accomplished continental military command over domestic situations.

01:48:28.000 And the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the FBI, will be sat on the sidelines.

01:48:35.000 This is startling stuff.

01:48:37.000 And again, it's not being reported.

01:48:38.000 I reported it on the World Net Daily.

01:48:40.000 I interviewed Representative Qualar twice.

01:48:42.000 I recorded the interview.

01:48:45.000 I've documented it with the government.

01:48:47.000 There is going to be a proposal coming forward very quickly to use the U.S.

01:48:52.000 military assistance in the Mexican drug war.

01:48:55.000 And it will be presented to the American people again as, look at what we're doing to protect you.

01:49:00.000 And really what they're doing is merging the bodies together right now in front of everyone.

01:49:06.000 We're going into military command under the fear of a drug war.

01:49:11.000 Which the Bush Administration has no intent to win.

01:49:13.000 And you talk about corruption.

01:49:14.000 I mean, I was just down in Mexico last year.

01:49:18.000 And... I was actually in Mexico this year again, too.

01:49:21.000 And down there, you openly see the Mexican troops everywhere you go guarding the marijuana fields.

01:49:26.000 Well, and Alex, I want to get into, just a minute on this.

01:49:30.000 On what's going on in the stock market.

01:49:32.000 I mean, for 25 years I worked in financial services internationally.

01:49:35.000 I have all the MSAD licenses.

01:49:38.000 Stay there, Dr. Corsi.

01:49:38.000 Sure, sure.

01:49:39.000 I want to get your take on all this.

01:49:41.000 We really appreciate you joining us.

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01:53:01.000 It's simple.

01:53:02.000 Global corporations said, hey, why don't we use the military-industrial complex to take over the United States? 1.00

01:53:09.000 And they've used crises that they've engineered, they've created, or that they have allowed to fester and grow larger.

01:53:18.000 And then they come and say, oh, we've got a way to clean that up and fix that.

01:53:20.000 And then each time they make it worse.

01:53:23.000 All by design.

01:53:24.000 We even have Pentagon documents where they talk about this.

01:53:27.000 We have Pentagon documents where they said, we're going to make Iraq worse, break it in three parts, and never leave.

01:53:31.000 They're not there to democratize, they're actually there to spread dissent and actually create more Muslim extremists. 1.00

01:53:39.000 And again, that's in P-2-O-G in their documents, but that's a whole other issue.

01:53:43.000 Problem-reaction-solution is the key to all this.

01:53:46.000 And that's how they're operating, but the good news is a sleeping giant is awakening, and they can't put the genie back in the bottle.

01:53:52.000 Do you agree with that statement, Dr. Korshi, that there is an exponential awakening taking place, that there is a massive collision between the forces of liberty and the forces of control?

01:54:02.000 I absolutely, Alex.

01:54:03.000 I think that the difference you were talking about earlier, when they used the stealth method in Europe in the 50s to create the European Union, John Monet and the like, the difference was there was no talk radio and there was no internet.

01:54:16.000 People today are discovering the truth.

01:54:18.000 I mean, these 30 pages of footnotes I published in the book give people the tools to get them to see the documents for themselves.

01:54:27.000 Once you go to spp.gov and actually start reading it, or you go to keeptexasmoving.com and read the documents on the Trans-Texas Corridor, it opens your eyes.

01:54:37.000 You can't see it as the same.

01:54:39.000 You don't listen to the government anymore, denying what's obvious in front of you.

01:54:45.000 I want to talk about this economic crisis that's been also engineered.

01:54:50.000 As you know, I've spent 25 years in financial services.

01:54:54.000 I created two broker-dealers.

01:54:57.000 I still have active NASD, National Association of Security Dealers licenses.

01:55:03.000 I've been at an investment analysis now for a quarter of a century.

01:55:06.000 Bottom line, where are we right now?

01:55:08.000 Where do you see us going?

01:55:09.000 Who's behind it?

01:55:10.000 Well, the dollar is being devalued systematically.

01:55:14.000 It's at the lowest point ever against the Euro.

01:55:17.000 We have a crisis with China, with China having now $1.3 trillion of foreign exchange reserves, 80% of which is in dollars.

01:55:28.000 The first salvo was fired By China, last week, saying that if we try to make trade with China, fair trade, by forcing them to let their currency be freely floating in world markets, they'll sell dollars and further tank the dollar.

01:55:42.000 And we saw what happened when they did that, a massive plunge.

01:55:46.000 And what's going on right now today, you know, we've almost lost a thousand points on Wall Street.

01:55:52.000 As we're talking, it's down another 130 today.

01:55:55.000 Two major bubbles have burst.

01:55:58.000 And that's what $400 billion of cash being pumped in by central banks.

01:56:02.000 They can't pour enough billion in to stop this.

01:56:05.000 The losses here are easily $3 trillion on just the housing market bubble bursting and the hedge fund bubble bursting of credit.

01:56:16.000 Our government, since 2001, has just been pouring credit, free borrowing.

01:56:22.000 The homeowners, regardless of whether they're qualified, to businesses, regardless of whether the deal's any good, to hedge funds, to bet on the market, regardless of whether they've got a strategy that'll work or not.

01:56:34.000 And all that huge amount of credit has stimulated growth, but it's going to come to rest.

01:56:38.000 Stay there for a minute.

01:56:38.000 You know what?

01:56:39.000 I know you've got a lot of interviews today.

01:56:41.000 Is there a way to hold you over to talk about this?

01:56:43.000 Yes, I'd be happy to.

01:56:44.000 Can you stay 20 minutes into the next show?

01:56:45.000 Yes, I can.

01:56:46.000 Okay, because I know that there's actually a free report.

01:56:49.000 that folks can get when they call Modest Resources, the parent company of this network, and you can get Dr. Corsi's report on this.

01:56:57.000 And, you know, sometimes you miss the forest for the trees or the elephant in the living room.

01:57:00.000 I should have.

01:57:01.000 There I was, moving the interview last week during this crisis, not remembering that you're a preeminent expert on this.

01:57:07.000 It's just that you're a jack of many trades there, my friend.

01:57:10.000 People have to be advised because they shouldn't be holding any stocks right now.

01:57:15.000 Well, I agree, and I told people two years ago to dump all their stocks.

01:57:18.000 And I told them right before the 2000 bus to do it.

01:57:20.000 It's not hard if you see the indicators, and I'm just a layman.

01:57:23.000 Dr. Corsi, again, has worked inside of this.

01:57:25.000 Stay there, sir.

01:57:26.000 We're going to come back in 20 minutes with him, then we're going to take your call.

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01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 This just so happens to be from WorldNetDaily.com, but I'm not exaggerating.

01:58:12.000 I see six, seven, eight, nine of these a day.

01:58:15.000 And I've experienced it myself.

01:58:18.000 Woman prosecuted for sidewalk shot. 1.00

01:58:21.000 Police won't drop a case against a 22 year old woman exercising her First Amendment in Florida.

01:58:27.000 She drew on a bridge a message against the illegal aliens. 0.54

01:58:31.000 She's been arrested and is facing a lot of jail time over this.

01:58:34.000 This is just an example of the type of stuff.

01:58:36.000 I've got a big stack of news here that we're going to be going over a little bit later on a host of issues.

01:58:41.000 but for the next 20 minutes, we're joined by Dr. Corsi.

01:58:44.000 And at the end of the interview, last five minutes or so, if you want to specifically have a question for him about the housing bubble, about the dollar, about what type of inflationary system we're going to see.

01:58:56.000 I mean, Dr. Corsi, let me just put the question to you this way.

01:58:59.000 And I've interviewed Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, you know, father of Reaganomics, and interviewed Joseph Stickel, chief economist of World Bank.

01:59:04.000 So, I mean, I've been literally hundreds of others over the years, so I come to my understanding just from interviewing experts, and I always like getting another angler perspective, and basically you're saying the same thing they're saying, but with a unique perspective.

01:59:18.000 Basically, do you think we're going to see Massive inflation with housing prices going down, because even if they're overvalued, you should still see them going up.

01:59:32.000 But then we see the Federal Reserve in the last six months cutting back on the amount of currency they were putting out, and then actual numbers on the computers.

01:59:40.000 What I'm saying is this.

01:59:43.000 Really bizarre economic movements, and we know the bubble can't go on forever, but at the same time, we have all these defaults, and that will drive down houses, but if there's more money in circulation, housing should go up, but then if they don't issue more money, it's going to completely implode the economy.

02:00:03.000 I mean, this is looking more and more like 1929.

02:00:05.000 Well, we're certainly at the period that we're going back to is when Jimmy Carter was president.

02:00:11.000 We're going to go through stagflation.

02:00:13.000 Which is basically stagnation and inflation.

02:00:17.000 We're already in a recession.

02:00:19.000 It has not been yet declared, but we're in a recession.

02:00:22.000 And I think it will deepen through the rest of 2007 and into 2008.

02:00:28.000 It's going to last several years.

02:00:30.000 It's largely because we've lost so much of the manufacturing to China, even when our currency tanks There are no exports we are producing anymore that we'll gain because of the currency.

02:00:42.000 All we had was our currency!

02:00:44.000 And the currency is gone.

02:00:46.000 The currency is being sold off very quietly, worldwide, by the oil producing states, by China.

02:00:55.000 The Euro is increasingly becoming the Foreign exchange reserve currency.

02:01:01.000 Well, if the dollar completely tanks, we're not just going to see a recession.

02:01:04.000 We're going to see blood in the streets, total insanity.

02:01:06.000 This is going to be the formula for producing the Amaro.

02:01:09.000 The Amaro is going to be ruled out as a continental solution to the tanking of the dollar.

02:01:13.000 Which is what David Rockefeller said in 1973 with the founding of the Trilateral Commission.

02:01:18.000 Exactly.

02:01:20.000 First of all, the primary indices of inflation have been taken out of the indexes.

02:01:27.000 It's not in, and neither is energy prices.

02:01:29.000 Which are the two keys?

02:01:30.000 And these two are going up hugely right now, and are going to continue to go up.

02:01:35.000 So how bad do you think it'll get?

02:01:36.000 Give us a time frame.

02:01:38.000 I think we're into between a five and seven year deep recession.

02:01:43.000 We will not recover from this for at least five years.

02:01:47.000 This is a deep one.

02:01:48.000 Because housing values, if people think that housing values are dropped today, it's nothing.

02:01:54.000 Housing values are going to go down 50% or more from the peak.

02:01:58.000 You're going to come to a point where condominiums in certain markets are worthless.

02:02:02.000 Markets like Washington DC, markets where inner cities were overbuilt, condominiums and townhouses are going to be worthless.

02:02:10.000 And it's not that there won't be buyers out there, there won't be any credit for them.

02:02:14.000 You're going to have a credit crunch now.

02:02:17.000 Well, even if you're qualified, you're going to have to have 20% down, and then you might have a hard time getting a loan that'll be... By the way, we've already got people with 700 credit scores are having to put 20% down right now, and they're telling people I know that are getting houses that that may shut.

02:02:31.000 It may shut.

02:02:33.000 It's going to get worse.

02:02:35.000 Meanwhile, the mainline media is telling everyone everything's fine.

02:02:38.000 Well, it's not.

02:02:39.000 The market is... No, Andre, stay there.

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02:09:11.000 Dr. Corsi, you were trying to complete your sentence when the break came about where you think things are going.

02:09:18.000 Here's my question to you.

02:09:20.000 Let's say Somebody's got $200,000 in the bank, they're 45 years old, they've got children in high school, they've got their mortgage half paid off, and they're making $100,000 a year between the husband and the wife.

02:09:36.000 What would you do with the $200,000 they've got?

02:09:39.000 Well, first of all, pay off any mortgages you've got.

02:09:42.000 Get out of debt.

02:09:44.000 Debt is death right now.

02:09:46.000 Get out of debt.

02:09:48.000 Especially mortgages.

02:09:50.000 Secondly, invest in gold.

02:09:53.000 Gold is going to be a good long-term investment.

02:09:55.000 I don't mean gold stocks.

02:09:56.000 I mean invest in gold that you can hold in your hand, one way or the other.

02:10:01.000 And don't expect any stocks and bonds.

02:10:04.000 They're all based on fiat money.

02:10:07.000 They're all going to decline tremendously in value.

02:10:10.000 With the derivative market, the derivative market could be a $450 trillion worldwide market that's going to collapse.

02:10:19.000 Just in the hedge funds alone in the United States, and in the mortgage market, there's between 3 and 5 trillion dollars of debt that's going to collapse.

02:10:28.000 That means 3 to 5 trillion dollars of losses, just lost.

02:10:32.000 Now somebody's going to have to absorb that losses.

02:10:34.000 And the reason the Federal Reserve is throwing out so much money into bank reserves is because we would have already had bank failures.

02:10:42.000 The Fed had not done that, and it had not been done by the central banks worldwide.

02:10:46.000 $400 billion last week.

02:10:48.000 That is one of the biggest infusions I've ever seen.

02:10:50.000 It's one of the biggest in history.

02:10:52.000 And it's really a drop in the bucket against the losses that are going to be taken.

02:10:56.000 Like you said, $3 trillion has already been lost.

02:10:58.000 It's already been lost.

02:10:59.000 It just hasn't been booked as losses yet.

02:11:01.000 When that happens, The stock market could easily lose another thousand points, or two thousand points.

02:11:07.000 Now, I agree with your analysis, sir, but what about the school of thought that says, go ahead and get an even bigger mortgage, as long as you're going to be able to have enough savings to pay for it, because with inflation, you're going to be able to accelerate the payoff of that.

02:11:20.000 Don't count that you'll be able to float a larger mortgage.

02:11:24.000 The only thing you're going to securely get, because the terms can change, you don't understand that mortgage entirely, there can be a grab on that mortgage, Remember, whenever everybody loses, there's somebody who wins.

02:11:36.000 There's going to be a grab on this property by people who have cash, and that's not going to be the middle class.

02:11:42.000 And people will lose their homes if they have large mortgages that they cannot comfortably sustain or pay off.

02:11:50.000 Are you talking about them trying to call in loans that people aren't even paying on?

02:11:56.000 Yes, or change the terms on those loans and demand payment.

02:12:00.000 If you haven't read all your contract perfectly and understand that Unless you've got a 30-year fixed mortgage that's locked in, or a 15-year fixed mortgage with no terms, and there were very few of those being written through this recent expansion, the terms can change and the loans can be effectively called, such that people may or may not be able to... Now, that's what my dad's told me.

02:12:22.000 He's really good on financials, and he's lived a lot, and that's what a lot of experts tell me.

02:12:28.000 Then you talk to the mortgage people, and they go, oh no, there's no such thing!

02:12:31.000 That got changed in the...

02:12:33.000 They want to sell the mortgages, and I wouldn't listen to them at all.

02:12:37.000 The only way you can be comfortable in your mortgage property is if you've paid off your mortgage.

02:12:42.000 Then the property's not going to be taken from you.

02:12:44.000 And you've got to make that an objective.

02:12:46.000 I advise people, when homes could be sold, to sell off a house with a mortgage and move into a smaller one where they could pay the mortgage, even if they had to change states.

02:12:57.000 Because it would be the comfortable way to know you've got something you can rely on that's not going to be taken from you.

02:13:03.000 We're going into a period of time where home ownership is going to decline.

02:13:08.000 And people who thought they were comfortably in homes are not going to be.

02:13:11.000 They're going to lose the home.

02:13:12.000 There'll also be a lot of bargains, though, in the depths of this.

02:13:15.000 That's what I'm saying, that there'll be also a grab, but it's going to be a grab where the institutions and the people already wealthy will only gain.

02:13:22.000 It's not going to be an opportunity for the average person.

02:13:25.000 Which I read in the Financial Times of London a year and a half ago, which, for those who don't know, that's the real paper of record, not the Wall Street Journal.

02:13:32.000 That's where the elite actually communicate and telegraph to each other.

02:13:35.000 And they said, well, we're going to plunge the U.S.

02:13:38.000 But we want to do it incrementally so it doesn't endanger all our investments.

02:13:41.000 We need to get positioned first so we can go buy them up once they are in full decline.

02:13:46.000 And that will happen.

02:13:48.000 The only question is though, is there now panicking saying, this meltdown is so bad it may even endanger them?

02:13:53.000 This meltdown is a global meltdown.

02:13:56.000 And the dimensions of this are going to be very severe.

02:13:59.000 But it will force regionalization.

02:14:01.000 It's going to be another impetus to saying, The only way we can handle this coming huge recession is to wait until the dollar goes down 40% against the euro.

02:14:10.000 Wait until the dollar is priced not at 1.35 euro, but at 1.75 euro.

02:14:17.000 What about cash in the banks?

02:14:19.000 Well, even cash in the banks is still cash and it's going to be devalued.

02:14:24.000 If you have $100,000 in savings, the real value of that could be diminished 40%.

02:14:29.000 So what would you do?

02:14:30.000 If you hold gold, if people have cash and can hold gold, it's likely to maintain its value.

02:14:37.000 Right now there's been an attempt to suppress the value of gold, and it's going to increase.

02:14:41.000 But it's still double despite that attempt.

02:14:45.000 I think gold today should be well over $800, and it's going to head that way very quickly.

02:14:52.000 Well, I mean, the stock market, if the dollar's been devalued massively, the stock market's really down right now at $13,000.

02:14:58.000 And you tell these yuppies that, that, hey, $13,000 in devalued numbers is below $11,000 of $2,000.

02:15:03.000 Well, that's correct.

02:15:06.000 And also, you know, the pressure downward on this market, I don't care how many billions Goldman Sachs or Bear Stearns tries to put into these collateralized obligation funds.

02:15:21.000 The losses are going to be so massive that they won't be able to pour billions enough.

02:15:26.000 They're going to have to liquidate these funds, and they're going to have to declare them worthless, like Bear Stearns did.

02:15:31.000 Already, the second biggest mortgage lender went belly-up last week.

02:15:36.000 Over a hundred mortgage lenders go belly-up.

02:15:38.000 Countrywide is in trouble.

02:15:39.000 It's one of the largest in the country.

02:15:42.000 If you just think about it logically, what happens is, when the values of houses go down, And people are... higher interest rates, which we're in, demand people pay more.

02:15:54.000 They foreclose because they can't meet the additional monthly payments that they never thought they were going to have to meet.

02:16:01.000 They can't sell the house because the house has lost so much value that even selling it doesn't pay off the mortgage.

02:16:07.000 So they're stuck with a loss.

02:16:10.000 And in a market where the values go down to that nature, the whole market's going to collapse and there's going to be huge losses across the board, which will further depress the value of the property.

02:16:20.000 The same thing is happening in the collateralized loan market, where these big players play with these hedge funds and these billion-dollar funds that Goldman Sachs runs.

02:16:29.000 Now again, you were talking about blaming... They go down all the way.

02:16:32.000 You were talking about blaming who's behind this.

02:16:34.000 I mean, clearly this has been engineered.

02:16:36.000 It's engineered because, again, the move toward globalism, the pumping of this liquidity to stimulate the markets was totally artificial.

02:16:46.000 The Federal Reserve is going to get caught right now in a total dilemma.

02:16:50.000 If the Federal Reserve raises rates to protect the dollar, it's going to further tank the economy and cause these housing markets to even be more of a crisis.

02:16:59.000 We've never seen a period quite like this, except for the 70s.

02:17:02.000 We have economic stagnation, the loss of real income, and the loss of real wealth.

02:17:08.000 And inflation!

02:17:09.000 And inflation, at the same time.

02:17:12.000 And with the dropping of the dollar, The crisis is going to be manipulated to the point where people will take the Amaro or any regional solution if it's proposed as here's the way you get out of your problem.

02:17:23.000 Well, that's what it looks like to me, is it looks like stagflation, which they didn't think existed until it happened in the 70s.

02:17:30.000 And here it comes again, where it takes more to buy things, but then assets are worth less.

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02:21:53.000 Look, we're just going to keep Dr. Corsi for the rest of the show.

02:22:00.000 This financial issue is key.

02:22:02.000 Later, we're going to talk about how they call loans, even on fixed-rate mortgages, with Dr. Corsi on this issue.

02:22:10.000 It's the same stuff my dad told me, the same stuff I've read about.

02:22:13.000 And you talk to these yuppies and they say it doesn't exist.

02:22:17.000 It's pretty scary stuff.

02:22:18.000 We're all going to have to get a chance to see it all unfold and happen.

02:22:21.000 Nate in North Carolina, then BL and others.

02:22:23.000 You're on the air, Nate.

02:22:24.000 Thanks for holding.

02:22:27.000 Hello?

02:22:28.000 Yes, sir, go ahead.

02:22:29.000 Oh, Alex, it's Nick from North Carolina.

02:22:31.000 Okay, Nick, I was told, Nick, go ahead.

02:22:33.000 Alright, big-time fan, I won't take too long.

02:22:36.000 I saw on the, recently last week, where the Fed had pumped $35 billion into the market to level it out.

02:22:42.000 Yeah, that was just that day.

02:22:44.000 Okay, it's $400 plus billion, and I checked Sunday.

02:22:48.000 Dr. Corsi, what is it now?

02:22:49.000 What is that?

02:22:50.000 Which figure?

02:22:52.000 Well, I mean, total, globally, it was over $400 billion.

02:22:55.000 He was talking about a one-day deal by the Fed at $37 billion.

02:23:00.000 It's close to, I think, $426 or $427 billion that have been injected in by the central banks in Europe and the United States.

02:23:09.000 We injected, actually, the least.

02:23:10.000 The central bank in Europe injected the most.

02:23:13.000 And, by the way, those only go to bank reserves.

02:23:16.000 Those don't bail out the losses in these funds.

02:23:20.000 The funds still have the losses.

02:23:22.000 What happens is that the holders of those funds were often the financial institution.

02:23:28.000 And if they have to mark those funds to market, they get marked at zero.

02:23:33.000 The bank doesn't have enough reserves... Yeah, basically, it got called, nothing was there, they're having to sure themselves up.

02:23:39.000 Exactly, and so the Fed's putting money in, so they can just borrow what they need to cover these losses.

02:23:45.000 But that does not mean that they're bailing out the funds.

02:23:48.000 The funds still have the losses.

02:23:50.000 And eventually that loss is going to come to rest on the bank's balance sheet.

02:23:53.000 So this is only a bailout of the elite right now?

02:23:56.000 Only temporary.

02:23:57.000 Temporary.

02:23:58.000 Because it gives time for the system to sort it out.

02:24:02.000 Before we're finished with this, it's inevitable that we're going to see major bank failures.

02:24:07.000 Bear Stearns could collapse.

02:24:08.000 And they're only bailing, in their own words, to control a gradual slide.

02:24:15.000 They want to calm a panic.

02:24:17.000 This thing could have literally melted down like a Chernobyl.

02:24:20.000 They don't want that.

02:24:21.000 They want to control the meltdown.

02:24:22.000 And it's not a good sign with $400-plus billion pumped out.

02:24:25.000 You should give them all the money to stop a panic.

02:24:25.000 No, it is.

02:24:28.000 I mean, that means that the losses that were taken already are in the trillions.

02:24:33.000 But my point is, exactly, but the full point here is they put in $400-plus billion and still the market's down.

02:24:39.000 And still the market's down.

02:24:40.000 Well, the market every day is taking new losses.

02:24:43.000 Because every day the real estate market is deteriorating.

02:24:47.000 Now, the earnings markets are deteriorating from the impact of the recession we had today.

02:24:51.000 Walmart registered disappointing sales.

02:24:54.000 And by the way, that $13,000 that you're seeing, that's only the Dow Jones winning 30.

02:24:59.000 Precisely.

02:25:00.000 And the $13,000, we could pierce through that today.

02:25:04.000 This market could close today below $13,000.

02:25:08.000 It's down right now 163 points.

02:25:11.000 I watch it all day long.

02:25:13.000 They'll try to bail it out before the end of the day.

02:25:16.000 They'll try to go in buying.

02:25:18.000 But depending upon news in the last hour, you won't know how this market is going to close until 3.45 today, Eastern Time.

02:25:25.000 In the last 15 minutes, this market could go up or down 200 points, the way it's trading today.

02:25:31.000 You won't know either way.

02:25:32.000 It'll just depend upon who's willing to throw money which way.

02:25:35.000 Any other points, sir?

02:25:37.000 What's the best way to bail us out of it?

02:25:38.000 I mean, to stop the whole rotting of the economy? 0.99

02:25:41.000 The problem is it's designed to rape you, Dr. There's no way this can be avoided. 0.90

02:25:46.000 This is an inevitable meltdown.

02:25:48.000 The only question now is if it's going to go fast or go slow.

02:25:51.000 Yeah, that's what the Financial Times says.

02:25:53.000 There is no way this can be stopped.

02:25:55.000 People who are talking to brokers and the brokers say, there's buying opportunities, the market's going to come back, hang up on that broker.

02:26:03.000 He's just trying to survive.

02:26:04.000 By the way, I'm getting text messages, emails, phone calls.

02:26:07.000 I've never gotten saying, buy this stock.

02:26:10.000 They're doing a lot of illegal stuff right now in desperation mode to get new money in while they take their money out.

02:26:16.000 Throw it all away.

02:26:17.000 The average investor today plays a zero impact on the market.

02:26:22.000 Half of the stock market today is hedge funds.

02:26:25.000 Hedge funds get a little bit of capital.

02:26:27.000 They get a billion dollars.

02:26:28.000 They go to the bank.

02:26:29.000 They borrow 20 billion dollars.

02:26:31.000 They invest that $20 billion into the market.

02:26:34.000 If the market goes up, everybody wins.

02:26:36.000 If the market goes down, whoever lent them the $20 billion loses it.

02:26:41.000 And by the way, they're selling bonds on paper instruments, on top of paper instruments, on top of paper instruments.

02:26:49.000 I mean, this is so inflated, it's huge.

02:26:52.000 All these debt instruments are today bogus.

02:26:56.000 All the mountains of mortgage debt, the mortgage of collateralized buyout debt, the mortgage, the whole junk bond market.

02:27:06.000 You've gotten to the point where major corporations that should have had good credit ratings, they're today no more than junk.

02:27:12.000 Yeah, the market used to, we had junk bonds and junk stocks.

02:27:16.000 Now it's just all junk. 0.98

02:27:17.000 All junk. 0.99

02:27:19.000 And it's collapsing. 0.94

02:27:20.000 And the collapse, there's no way to stop the collapse.

02:27:23.000 Just how fast it's going to occur.

02:27:24.000 How fast it's going to be booked.

02:27:26.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:27.000 More calls straight ahead.

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02:30:43.000 And tell them Alex Jones sent you.

02:30:44.000 I've got mainline New York newspaper here.

02:31:09.000 It's in the stack.

02:31:12.000 I'm going to dig it out in a minute.

02:31:12.000 I forget which one.

02:31:13.000 That's why I say that.

02:31:14.000 Thanks, New York Post.

02:31:16.000 Saying that the police are going to be given bonuses for being meaner to people.

02:31:21.000 Now, the New York Daily News a couple years ago reported the police took a full-page ad out and said, we're sorry we're so mean, we've been ordered to act like this.

02:31:31.000 And by the way, the feds are giving similar training all over the country.

02:31:34.000 Dr. Corsi, is that why they're setting up martial law provisions?

02:31:38.000 Is that why they're funding them for 2007? 0.93

02:31:40.000 I mean, is that why they're telling cops to treat us like garbage? 0.57

02:31:44.000 I mean, are they gearing up to just have total meltdown? 0.73

02:31:47.000 Well, certainly, Alex, we've passed, you know, All the presidential directives, George Bush has set up everything he needs to declare martial law.

02:31:55.000 With the John Warner Appropriations Act, the posse comitatus is gone.

02:32:00.000 We can use the federal military in domestic emergency situations whenever the president wants.

02:32:05.000 He doesn't even have to declare, he doesn't even have to get a governor's permission, or he can militarize, federalize the National Guard.

02:32:13.000 We're set up in that position because we've not been vigilant to make sure that our laws and our freedoms weren't protected.

02:32:20.000 We've allowed the federal government, in the name of protecting us, to create all these fears, terrorism, Al-Qaeda, now drugs across the border.

02:32:30.000 Drugs have been coming across the border out of control for over a decade.

02:32:34.000 And that didn't bother George Bush when he was going to integrate with Mexico.

02:32:38.000 Now that he wants to extend the military down to Mexico, we're suddenly being told of what a great problem drugs is.

02:32:44.000 What, did the White House just wake up and figure this out?

02:32:47.000 I mean, it's all staged.

02:32:49.000 That's the part that bothers me.

02:32:50.000 I mean, I agree with your analysis.

02:32:53.000 I guess the $64 million question here, before we go back to calls, is who is behind this?

02:32:58.000 I mean, I know the trilateralists.

02:33:00.000 I know the big European central banks basically own our Federal Reserve.

02:33:04.000 I know that they have been basically setting policies domestically that will then even demonize the good name of the U.S.

02:33:11.000 What concerns me and what all the experts I talk to from different stripes and across the world is that it looks like the US is being shut up to be gutted and butchered like a Christmas hog.

02:33:23.000 And in different factions, though, it looks like there are factions that want to save the economy, and then it looks like there's factions that want to pop it.

02:33:31.000 You know, we saw the mainstream media for two years saying, pop the real estate bubble, it's too big, it's too big.

02:33:36.000 It was overinflated, but at least it was someplace where part of your investment had some value.

02:33:43.000 So, Dr. Corsi, why do you think we saw the establishment try to pop the bubble, or do you disagree with that statement?

02:33:49.000 Well, I think, here's the point, Alex, that what's happening is We'd never get rid of the sovereignty of the United States or the dollar unless there was a crisis.

02:33:58.000 And so what we're being told now, you know, the Council on Foreign Relations in there, two issues ago on foreign affairs, Ben Steele, one of their top economists, wrote an article openly declaring that national monetary systems were dead.

02:34:12.000 We needed to go to regional monies and we needed to go to global monies.

02:34:15.000 Well, we're going to be told very quickly that the only way the federal government can protect us The beginning is if we allow the federal government to become a North American government.

02:34:24.000 If we allow it to merge into Mexico and Canada to take care of the drug problem, to take care of the terrorist problem with a continental border, and to take care of the monetary crisis with an Amaro. 0.56

02:34:35.000 We'll be presented that the only way we can solve these problems is if we end poverty, every bit as much as Georgia.

02:34:41.000 Which is exactly, and I'll repeat because it's key, what the trilateralists said back in the early seventies, Jimmy Carter, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and David Rockefeller, and it looks like they're going to do it.

02:34:53.000 Is there a way to back them off if we were to get the word out and expose who was behind it?

02:34:58.000 Or at this point, are they going to hell for high water?

02:35:00.000 Well, they're going to go for broke right now.

02:35:03.000 It's just like George Bush, open the border, 12 million admitted illegal aliens come in, three quarters on his watch, that probably means 20 million.

02:35:12.000 One out of every ten people born in Mexico living in the United States.

02:35:14.000 It's worse than that.

02:35:16.000 And it's probably two or three times worse.

02:35:18.000 And then Bush goes to Congress and says, you can't deport these people.

02:35:22.000 The only solution is to pass a law, a shamnesty bill, the McCain-Kennedy compromise, to say that they have a legitimate reason to stay.

02:35:32.000 It's going to be the same kind of thing here.

02:35:36.000 Did you see the AP article a year ago?

02:35:38.000 Where it was headlined 800 Lenders Support Immigrants and it was the bank chairman going, we're giving them free loans basically with no ID because we know they're good people.

02:35:50.000 We want to help them stay here.

02:35:52.000 What's behind that?

02:35:53.000 The whole idea was to create a fait accompli.

02:35:58.000 20 million illegal aliens into the United States, then say there's nothing you can do about it except to legitimate them, and de facto we become a dual nation. 0.58

02:36:06.000 When the American people are told there's nothing you can do about it, this crisis too will be told there's nothing you can do about it except to become a regional market.

02:36:15.000 And to let the Baltimore National Corporation solve the problem with more global trade.

02:36:19.000 You know, I'll say this, they may have gone from 300,000 cops to 1,200,000, but I don't think they've got enough.

02:36:25.000 I think stuff's going to completely unravel.

02:36:26.000 Well, I think, you know, the issues that I'm waiting for is when the rubber hits the road, when 10,000 people in Texas get their eminent domain notices, their land's going to be seized for the Trans-Texas Corridor, when these foreclosures, when the market It's losing another thousand points.

02:36:47.000 Mortgages are virtually worthless.

02:36:49.000 Foreclosures are happening left and right.

02:36:52.000 And jobs continue to go to China while the price of gasoline heads towards $4 a gallon.

02:36:58.000 I mean, the American people have got to wake up.

02:37:04.000 I totally agree with you, and I'll make the statement again.

02:37:07.000 From my experience studying history, studying the global architects, if they know that the jig is up and we're aware that they're the bad guys, They will lessen the blow.

02:37:17.000 If they think that we're going to buy them as the savior, because again, they always create the crisis and they always impose as the savior, if they think we're going to go along with it, which right now it looks like the general public knows they're being lied to but doesn't know the basic facts, they're going to go for broke and press it and put the screws to us so hard I mean, Dr. Corsi, I've got to tell you, I'm not even freaked out about, you know, getting arrested or grabbed or put in prison by the New World Order.

02:37:45.000 But I've got to tell you, I am freaked out by the thought of just total depression and bedlam.

02:37:49.000 I mean, you say guaranteed five to seven year recession.

02:37:52.000 I agree, we've really already been in one for a year.

02:37:54.000 But how big a chance do you think we're going to have a total depression?

02:37:58.000 Joseph Stiklitz On this show, last year said that they are behind it on purpose, they do want to have it, and that it could mean a total global meltdown depression.

02:38:09.000 But he said he didn't know what percentage chance that was.

02:38:12.000 Now we're a little bit closer to the downward spiral.

02:38:17.000 We're already in the whirlpool right now, though just in the edge of it.

02:38:20.000 I mean, just give us numbers.

02:38:23.000 Like 80% chance of a bad recession?

02:38:24.000 I consider it a 50% possibility we could go into a 1929-type depression.

02:38:32.000 Even money.

02:38:34.000 Wow.

02:38:35.000 Even money.

02:38:35.000 It's going to be, this is going to be, depends upon how far back people remember, this is going to be much deeper than the 1958 recession.

02:38:44.000 It's going to be the deepest recession people can remember.

02:38:46.000 It's going to be more difficult than it was during the Jimmy Carter era, where you had double-digit interest rates, inflation, A stagnant economy and gasoline prices off the wall.

02:39:00.000 And by the way, every time there's even a mild recession, crime explodes.

02:39:05.000 And in the last recessions, in the 80s, in the 70s, in the 60s, crime in many cities doubles or triples.

02:39:11.000 I remember in the recession in Dallas when I was a child in the 70s, and I mean there were like 5, 6, 7, 8 murders a day.

02:39:18.000 You had to lock your doors, even in middle class areas.

02:39:21.000 Can you imagine with Latin drug gangs running all over us and the rest of it? 1.00

02:39:25.000 The only thing that slowed this down, because Jimmy Carter's solution was the Trilateral Commission, the only thing that slowed this down was Ronald Reagan.

02:39:32.000 And now with, you know, after Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton probably, they're back on track to have the global agenda re-established.

02:39:41.000 You know, both Bush and Clinton, George H.W.

02:39:44.000 Bush gave open speeches about a New World Order.

02:39:47.000 Our stock market's down 171 points today.

02:39:50.000 I think this will be a... I don't think it's going to solidly recover in the last hour.

02:39:55.000 If it does, they're going to have to throw a huge amount of money into this market from the Fed. 0.89

02:39:59.000 I just don't think they're going to do it at the end of the day.

02:40:03.000 If we end under $12,000 today, that'll be a technical point.

02:40:08.000 And if you turn on the news channels like CNBC, you're going to be seeing them ready to cut their risk.

02:40:14.000 But they'll still all be saying, buying opportunity, the market's going to come back, have we reached the lows?

02:40:19.000 Don't listen to any of that nonsense.

02:40:22.000 That's all just fluff to try to get you not to panic.

02:40:27.000 Let's take a call here.

02:40:28.000 Let's talk to BL in Texas.

02:40:30.000 BL, thanks for holding her on the air with Dr. Corsi.

02:40:32.000 Hi Alex.

02:40:33.000 Dr. Corsi, for For three decades, I've been cashing gold and silver coins and liberty tools in the hope that when the fiat currency fails, I will be able to buy rural property outright and pay off any unsecured debt at pennies on the dollar.

02:40:53.000 What else should I be doing?

02:40:56.000 Well, if you've done that, that's been a very good strategy.

02:40:58.000 I just stick to that.

02:40:59.000 Because if you can own land, or if you can own gold, given the economy we're going into, you'll win.

02:41:06.000 The people who are going to lose are anybody with debt.

02:41:09.000 That's the vast majority of people.

02:41:11.000 By the way, think about trying to pay property taxes even if you had, you know, your mortgage pretty much paid off when the economy's dead for ten years.

02:41:19.000 Well, and you asked me, Alex, how people, how you can lose a fixed mortgage that you're paying down.

02:41:24.000 Most people, if you remember your house closing, you get shoved so many documents, very few people ever read them.

02:41:31.000 Yeah, it's like, it's about a foot thick.

02:41:33.000 And most lawyers just tell you to sign them, don't worry about it.

02:41:36.000 They've not read them themselves.

02:41:37.000 Even your lawyers on your side, they're just wanting the deal to go through so they get paid.

02:41:42.000 An enormous number of these loans, even fixed loans, have various kinds of balloon or call provision, where if you want to keep the terms you've gotten in certain kind of markets, the lender can say, you either pay me a balloon of XYZ, which usually, you know, $100,000, $200,000, people don't have it, or we're going to adjust what you thought was a fixed mortgage.

02:42:03.000 There are a lot of clauses in these mortgages that people just don't have any clue on.

02:42:07.000 And anything which gives readjustment to the lender could mean a feature in which you lose your loan.

02:42:14.000 And most people have no idea that that could exist.

02:42:16.000 What about the millions of people that got on these arms?

02:42:19.000 Oh, forget it.

02:42:20.000 They're already on lifeboats with holes in them.

02:42:23.000 They're gone.

02:42:25.000 Anybody who's paying any of these new mortgages where you just paid interest only, or you had an adjustable mortgage, If you can't sell the property now today, just get ready to take the loss.

02:42:37.000 It's that bad.

02:42:38.000 But right now there are hundreds of thousands of people, the news has even reported, in houses who haven't paid mortgages in six months and they're saying the banks are letting them stay.

02:42:48.000 Is that so they don't panic the public while the elite gets their money up?

02:42:52.000 And until they get ready to foreclose on the property.

02:42:54.000 At some point or other they'll have no choice.

02:42:57.000 They'll have to foreclose. 0.90

02:42:59.000 But the banks know that once the word comes out, it's going to cause a chain reaction.

02:43:03.000 BL, does that answer your question?

02:43:05.000 Yes, sir.

02:43:06.000 All these things hit a point, Alex, where no matter how much they want to prevent a panic, they can't stop it.

02:43:11.000 In other words, right now today, Bear Stearns is saying, we can't redeem these funds.

02:43:17.000 Because we don't know.

02:43:18.000 We've taken 5 losses.

02:43:19.000 We don't even know how to mark the assets, the loan obligations that we hold.

02:43:24.000 It just makes me so mad.

02:43:25.000 I love this country. 0.96

02:43:26.000 And to see it overrun with America-hating illegals. 0.98

02:43:29.000 To see the economy falling apart, the military disintegrating.

02:43:33.000 I mean, I just can't believe what the globalists have done to this country.

02:43:36.000 It never ceases to make me just absolutely angry, Doctor.

02:43:39.000 Well, this is the fastest run I've seen, ever.

02:43:43.000 To get to the goal line of creating a United States regional economy, a North American Union.

02:43:49.000 The elite are running like they'll never have this chance again.

02:43:52.000 And this is the 10th hour, the 11th hour where this battle will be fought.

02:43:58.000 They believe that they can win now.

02:44:01.000 And they're going for broke to create a North American Union to tank the dollar.

02:44:05.000 I just hope all these goon police and others that think they're going to have fun and all this... I hope you know you are literally burning down your own house. 0.77

02:44:13.000 You better... It's why I wrote The Late Great USA.

02:44:16.000 It's why I detailed all this.

02:44:18.000 I gave you the documents to see it.

02:44:20.000 Go look at the Trans-Texas Corridor.

02:44:21.000 Go look at what the real federal deficit is on a GAAP accounting basis.

02:44:27.000 The fact that we can never meet the Social Security and Medicare obligations.

02:44:30.000 How China is winning. 0.66

02:44:32.000 How we've been, you know... Bottom line, they're going to blow out the TV's at Walmart.

02:44:36.000 They're going to completely blow out the economy and turn us into a third world police state. 0.76

02:44:39.000 And it's going to be looking like Mexico with a few at the top and the rest at the bottom.

02:44:45.000 This is nothing than 14th century Venetian mercantilism run mad Where, you know, the few people who are among the globalists, the Council on Foreign Relations, they think they're the merchants.

02:44:57.000 And the rest of us are the peasant workers.

02:44:59.000 Well, I agree.

02:45:00.000 In fact, that's very astute.

02:45:01.000 I call this neo-mercantilism.

02:45:02.000 That's my term for it.

02:45:03.000 Because I look at mercantilism, that's exactly what it is.

02:45:06.000 It's not free market, folks.

02:45:07.000 It is aggressive, destructive, capitalist policies meant to destroy all competition.

02:45:13.000 And it's not good.

02:45:16.000 The market's down 197 points right now.

02:45:18.000 And we're approaching the last dollar.

02:45:22.000 If the banks don't finally just decide to throw an enormous amount of money into the market in the last hour, this market could end up down 300 points or more today.

02:45:32.000 And we're not late in the week with the downturn.

02:45:35.000 We're early in the week.

02:45:37.000 By Friday, it could be a 1,000-point loss.

02:45:39.000 They're going to fight.

02:45:40.000 It's only 47 points above 13,000 right now.

02:45:44.000 And so the fight today is whether it ends under 13,000 or not.

02:45:47.000 That will be decided in the last 10 minutes.

02:45:50.000 And if it passes that psychological point down to 12,000, it'll be curtains tomorrow.

02:45:56.000 Well then the next barrier looks like 11,000, or you could lose another 1,000 points in a matter of two or three weeks.

02:46:02.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jane in New York. 0.70

02:46:04.000 Jane, you're on the air.

02:46:05.000 Go ahead.

02:46:06.000 Hi.

02:46:08.000 Thank you very much.

02:46:08.000 Welcome.

02:46:08.000 Hi.

02:46:09.000 It's great to talk to both of you.

02:46:11.000 I have two short questions.

02:46:13.000 The carry trade that they are doing with currency such as the yen, the yen is being Isn't the yen being manipulated in order to encourage a carry trade, number one?

02:46:23.000 And then they keep screaming about the Chinese manipulating their currency.

02:46:23.000 Yes, it is.

02:46:27.000 And my second question is, when the dollar collapses, hopefully it won't, but when the dollar collapses, I think of all those empty condos, for instance, sitting there in high-rises in Miami.

02:46:37.000 Won't the world just come and buy up condos, real estate, all of our businesses, which they're doing already?

02:46:44.000 Unfortunately, everything that we think of... That's the key point, is that already with the dollar devalued by 50 plus percent from the open of the euro at 82 back in 2000, exactly now with the currency even more debased and the economy debased, all that Arab, all that Asian, all that European money, I mean, that's what Dr. Corsi was saying earlier.

02:47:05.000 Yes, that's right, and it won't happen for a while.

02:47:05.000 Dr. Corsi?

02:47:09.000 The only currencies that are not going to be hit Are going to be as hard as the euro and the pound sterling.

02:47:16.000 Oh yeah.

02:47:16.000 But the monies that are out there that will come back are these sovereign funds.

02:47:21.000 The funds that have been stolen.

02:47:23.000 These huge amounts of money that are in Dubai, that are in the Saudi's hold, that have nothing to do with people at all.

02:47:31.000 They're just totally oligopoly money.

02:47:34.000 And it will not come back into the market for a while.

02:47:37.000 Then it will come back in and buy up all the valuable assets.

02:47:42.000 That's where the only cash really is, the only real money is.

02:47:46.000 It's gone hugely into sovereign funds.

02:47:49.000 All the hedge funds are nothing but a shell game of debt.

02:47:53.000 That's right.

02:47:54.000 You've got a few hundred billionaires in Mexico, you've got a few thousand millionaires in the Muslim countries, and some old money in Europe, and they just basically are wiping the hell out of us. 1.00

02:48:03.000 And we're moving towards, if you go to that 14th century mercantile model, It was just a design to protect the few wealthy merchants and bankers.

02:48:13.000 Everybody else lost.

02:48:14.000 Everybody else was just the worker pet.

02:48:16.000 Jane, anything else?

02:48:17.000 Just quickly, how long are they going to let this yen carry trade manipulation continue?

02:48:22.000 I think it's going to collapse.

02:48:23.000 It's starting to collapse.

02:48:24.000 I'd give it about two more months and it'll really start to collapse.

02:48:28.000 And for those that don't know what a Yen and Kerry trade is, briefly on the other side, tell them what it is.

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02:51:44.000 Real fast, Dr. Cornish, explain to people what that lady was specifically talking about. 1.00

02:52:00.000 Hey, the carry trade, and by the way, a lot of these things can be looked up on a website called investopedia.com.

02:52:08.000 I-N-V-E-S-T-O-P-E-D-I-A dot com.

02:52:12.000 It's a great website for giving you financial terms, definitions, and explaining things.

02:52:17.000 The carry trade is a leverage game.

02:52:20.000 Let's say you borrow 1,000 yen from a Japanese bank.

02:52:24.000 And you convert those into dollars, you buy $1,000, equivalent amount of U.S.

02:52:29.000 bond, and the bond pays 4.5%, and the Japanese charge you 0% on what you borrowed.

02:52:36.000 You can gain 4.5%.

02:52:39.000 But if the exchange rate changes, if the dollar drops in value, you can lose tremendously.

02:52:45.000 So it's another form of currency manipulation?

02:52:47.000 Currency shell game manipulation.

02:52:50.000 And it's a highly leveraged game because people play it with borrowed money.

02:52:54.000 And if the dollar drops in value, the Japanese yen carry game could lose trillions.

02:53:00.000 And they also manipulate it where they'll do the carry trade, but then also go in and pound a currency to make it go the way they want it.

02:53:07.000 They'll pound the dollar to make you lose your money.

02:53:10.000 I mean, that's the manipulation that can be played.

02:53:12.000 So one of the reasons the dollar has not dropped as fast as it could have is because we're concerned worldwide And a lot of Americans would lose, too, on the carry trade collapsing.

02:53:24.000 Okay, we're almost out of time.

02:53:24.000 We've got to go to calls.

02:53:25.000 We've got to finish up.

02:53:27.000 Go right ahead.

02:53:28.000 Okay, Mike in Cleveland just hung up, so let's go to Leon.

02:53:30.000 And Leon, where are you calling us from?

02:53:33.000 Uh, Seattle, Washington.

02:53:34.000 Okay, you're calling from Washington.

02:53:36.000 Go ahead.

02:53:37.000 Thanks for having me on the show today.

02:53:41.000 Sure.

02:53:41.000 My question is real short.

02:53:43.000 I just, you know, I listen to you guys all the time.

02:53:46.000 I've followed Alex since he started, you know, and other websites.

02:53:51.000 And for those of us that are, you know, in the real world here, living, you know, check to check and, you know, a stable job, renting, you know, probably an apartment at a fairly reasonable rate, at this point with the way the financial markets and at this point with the way the financial markets and everything else are going, what should we be, you know, dealing with what little pennies we have?

02:54:14.000 Alright, let me get him to comment on that.

02:54:16.000 That's a good question.

02:54:16.000 What about your average hard-working blue-collar fella?

02:54:20.000 First of all, pay off your credit card.

02:54:22.000 Don't have debt.

02:54:24.000 And live within whatever you can earn, even if it means some reduction in lifestyle.

02:54:28.000 Don't get into debt.

02:54:30.000 That's number one.

02:54:32.000 Number two is to kind of prepare for it.

02:54:34.000 If you have any money at all, buy hard assets, like pay down mortgages if you can get one.

02:54:39.000 If you don't get a mortgage on high ratios of debt, buy some gold, even if you're renting.

02:54:45.000 Gold will sustain itself in value, even through the economic crisis we're coming into.

02:54:50.000 Silver too.

02:54:51.000 Silver too, I agree with that.

02:54:53.000 Silver a little bit less than gold, because silver market's more subject to manipulation.

02:54:57.000 Real fast, Jeffrey in Texas, you've got a minute and a half, go!

02:55:01.000 Hi, Alex.

02:55:02.000 Hi.

02:55:04.000 Yeah, I was just reading the article up on your website yesterday, listening to Bob Dacey, and I want to thank Mr. Corsi for his work as well.

02:55:13.000 But I got so infuriated yesterday reading about this, I went directly to The Nation and read the article, and I decided to see if they had any contacts on their website, and I got a phone number And called and actually talked to the personal assistant of Katrina Udall.

02:55:32.000 And I was wondering if I could give that number out to show that we are not just forming a critical mass, we actually have a critical mass.

02:55:40.000 Well, tell you what, email me the info.

02:55:41.000 I might do it tomorrow.

02:55:43.000 We're just so out of time here.

02:55:44.000 That's the CFR owner of the nation.

02:55:46.000 What did they say when you called?

02:55:48.000 Well, uh, basically nothing.

02:55:51.000 Just kind of very quiet and, you know, just like, Just click the information.

02:55:56.000 Call me back tomorrow, Jeffrey.

02:55:58.000 We might do it.

02:55:58.000 We're out of time.

02:55:59.000 Dr. Corsi, I know I'll move quick here.

02:56:01.000 I really appreciate you coming on.

02:56:03.000 My producer's going to call you right now to finalize when you're going to be popping in early next week when you're in Canada covering the North American Union Summit.

02:56:10.000 And we really appreciate you going up there and doing that.

02:56:13.000 It's a great honor to be with you, Alex.

02:56:15.000 I'm happy to do it any time.

02:56:16.000 Thank you.

02:56:17.000 He's the author of The Late Great USA, available at InfoWars.com.

02:56:20.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - August 14, 2007

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