Alex Jones Show - 20071005_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:44.000 Welcome.

00:00:45.000 There have been new big developments in the Ed and Elaine Brown case.

00:00:51.000 In the last few minutes, the feds ended a Press conference that was not carried by local radio or TV that we could find.

00:00:59.000 We are waiting for either individuals that were at the press conference, local patriots, local members of the truth community to call into this show to let us know what happened.

00:01:09.000 We're waiting for the mainstream media to file stories on what the feds reportedly said, The local TV stations generally post later file reports with snippets from the news conferences, so you will be assured that in the next three hours during this transmission, we will detail exactly what happened to them.

00:01:28.000 We know this.

00:01:30.000 At around 7.30 Eastern last night, the Feds in over 40 SUVs descended on the Browns' home.

00:01:40.000 They claim that no violence took place.

00:01:43.000 The neighbors say they didn't hear shots.

00:01:44.000 That sounds like, that's the way I figured the feds would take them if they were successful, quote, local patriots visiting them that were able to get in, that the feds opened the roadblocks for, would then draw down on them, taser them from behind, beat them from behind, you know, put guns to their heads and apprehend them that way.

00:02:03.000 I do not yet know if that is the case, but I'd say there's about a 90% chance that that is the case.

00:02:09.000 We hope that's the case because they could have actually been violent with them with firearms and then just told the neighbors to lie or the neighbors may not have heard the gunshots if they were inside watching television.

00:02:21.000 We don't know exactly what happened.

00:02:24.000 The AP, Reuters, the local newspapers are reporting a tense five-month standoff ended peacefully last night when U.S.

00:02:31.000 Marshals took custody of Convicted tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown at their Plainfield home, authorities announced.

00:02:38.000 We had no identification that the Browns intended to voluntarily surrender.

00:02:41.000 U.S.

00:02:41.000 Marshal Stephen Monnier said in a statement, so we had to move forward with an operation that promised the safest possible outcome.

00:02:48.000 That day was today.

00:02:51.000 The arrest occurred without incident around 745.

00:02:54.000 He said, high-profile situations like this are always difficult, but they don't have to be tragic.

00:03:00.000 I'm glad no one was injured and that the community remained safe throughout the operation, Monnier said.

00:03:05.000 The Browns were turned over to the U.S.

00:03:06.000 Bureau of Prisons last night and will begin serving their 63-month federal prison term, Monnier said, in June.

00:03:13.000 He said the Browns would eventually be charged with obstruction of justice for resisting arrest.

00:03:18.000 Now, this is stuff he said last night.

00:03:23.000 This came out in the early morning hours.

00:03:26.000 This Boston Globe report is nine hours old.

00:03:29.000 So I guess that came out about 2 or 3 in the morning.

00:03:32.000 Were you at the press conference there at the federal courthouse?

00:03:38.000 Have you seen local news reports?

00:03:39.000 Because, again, there's too much for us to keep track of here.

00:03:42.000 Specifically, if you have documented evidence of what they said at the press conference that we don't even know took place an hour ago.

00:03:49.000 They said they would do it last night.

00:03:51.000 Were you there in Plainfield?

00:03:52.000 Can you call in right now?

00:03:53.000 Please, don't call in.

00:03:56.000 About any other subject right now, I want to know about this.

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00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:12.000 I've been a little busy today. - I'm sorry, babe.

00:08:23.000 Because I found out that somebody in the chain of custody in Austin or in New York ripped off a copy of Endgame and we're starting to put it up on the web.

00:08:33.000 I guess they mean well, but that will really devastate us here if someone does that.

00:08:38.000 I mean, we put this stuff out for free, but first we've got to sell a few DVDs and have it for members, folks, in higher quality.

00:08:44.000 So I've been busy dealing with that, scrabbling around.

00:08:47.000 And don't worry, it's been taken down, folks.

00:08:49.000 And I've been scanning for it.

00:08:51.000 It had been up a few hours before I caught it.

00:08:54.000 I mean, stuff like that happens, there won't be a film to come.

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00:08:57.000 We're that close to the margin of being able to operate here.

00:09:05.000 But that's a side issue.

00:09:08.000 Whoever does that, or whoever's got copies, if I catch you distributing copies before it comes out, I'm going to come after you.

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00:09:18.000 I spent 14 months, and let's just say, Well over what Terror Storm cost.

00:09:24.000 I don't even want to say how much.

00:09:27.000 I have exhausted my limited treasury making Endgame.

00:09:27.000 Okay?

00:09:32.000 And I need to make money back so I can make another film.

00:09:39.000 Anyways, I was just enraged early this morning to discover this.

00:09:44.000 Totally enraged.

00:09:45.000 And then I was very upset to hear about what happened to the Browns.

00:09:54.000 We've got Dave Mustang of Megadeth coming up later because he's gone totally anti-New World Order.

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00:10:02.000 Ron Paul will be on with us in the second hour today as well.

00:10:06.000 We have two notoriously sketchy guests popping in, and I'm sure one of them will.

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00:10:29.000 That's from 25-1 four months ago, ladies and gentlemen.

00:10:33.000 That trajectory gives him victory of the growth rate continues.

00:10:36.000 But in the first segment I was saying, we couldn't find the newscast online.

00:10:44.000 We couldn't find the press conference by the feds.

00:10:47.000 Paul Watson did.

00:10:49.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:10:52.000 Paul Watson was able to find the press conference, he was able to find the reports.

00:10:59.000 And so, oh, Steve Watson was as well, so it's up on Infowars.net, that's Infowars.net, originating at Infowars.net, and on PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:11:13.000 Browns were duped by Trojan horse marshals posing as supporters, open door policy allowed officials, You mean Feds to walk in and arrest Ed and Elaine Brown.

00:11:25.000 Tax protesters Ed and Elaine Brown were tricked by U.S.

00:11:28.000 Marshals who entered their home yesterday afternoon posing as supporters.

00:11:31.000 And I kept saying that.

00:11:33.000 I mean, you know, you'll have the Browns with 20 people around them.

00:11:36.000 That pistol in your belt meant nothing.

00:11:38.000 And they're just going to pull it out and pistol whip you and it's going to be the end of it.

00:11:41.000 Remember I said 10 minutes ago there's a 90% chance that's what happened.

00:11:45.000 Well, here it is.

00:11:47.000 Tax protesters Ed and Elaine Brown were tricked by U.S.

00:11:49.000 Marshals who entered their home yesterday afternoon posing as supporters.

00:11:53.000 The Marshals entered the house at a time when there were no other supporters present and catching the Browns off guard were able to arrest them and remove them from the property. 0.70

00:12:03.000 As we reported earlier this morning the speculation was the Browns were infiltrated and tricked before violently subdued as authorities refused to provide any details behind their arrest beside the fact that they did not peacefully surrender.

00:12:17.000 And it still goes on, but it has now been reported by WMUR News that, here's the quotes from the federal marshals, and we'll go to Paul Watson, let's see if we can get Steve on because he saw this.

00:12:31.000 Ultimately, and then go up to Infowars.net right now for me, John, go ahead and grab that newscast.

00:12:37.000 Ultimately, the open-door policy that they seemed to have, which allowed the Browns to have some supporters bring them supplies, welcome followers, and even host a picnic, this proved to be their undoing.

00:12:49.000 They invited us in, we escorted them out.

00:12:53.000 That's exactly how it happened.

00:12:55.000 A small team of marshals pulled off the ruse Assisting the Browns without incident on the couple's front porch, Monnier told local press.

00:13:07.000 Reports are suggesting that weapons had been seized at the property, including explosive devices, booby traps, which were placed in the woods.

00:13:13.000 Monnier added the Browns may face further charges relating to the weapons.

00:13:17.000 Monnier also added that officials, officials, authorities, we're the slaves and servants, Paul Watson, thank you for coming on with us.

00:13:25.000 Do we have Paul Watson?

00:13:26.000 Call him back.

00:13:27.000 warned that any further supporters' actions at this time could result in federal charges.

00:13:31.000 And it goes on.

00:13:33.000 Paul Watson, thank you for coming on with us.

00:13:36.000 Do we have Paul Watson?

00:13:44.000 Call him back.

00:13:46.000 All right.

00:13:49.000 I guess we lost the line to England, because I know he and his brother have been working more on this in the last 45 minutes, so we will get him on to, again, give us his take on what's happening there.

00:14:03.000 or So, top story on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.net right now.

00:14:10.000 Browns were duped by Trojan Horse Marshals posing as supporters.

00:14:15.000 This is up right now.

00:14:19.000 On Infowars.net.

00:14:22.000 The problem here is that they had massive support, and everyone was against the Feds going in and murdering them, Waco style. 0.71

00:14:30.000 But then when the Browns started saying, well, we're shooting into the woods and we see movement, well, what if a family was coming in to support them, or a neighbor, or somebody walking their dog?

00:14:39.000 There's houses, you know, 100 yards away, 200 yards away.

00:14:42.000 That's not proper firearm safety.

00:14:46.000 And the police, if they were just randomly shooting into the woods, we'd call for their arrest.

00:14:51.000 It's unsafe.

00:14:54.000 And you can't do that, especially when you're inviting people onto your property.

00:14:58.000 Now, they made the announcement that anybody coming on their property is going to be shot at before we know who you are.

00:15:04.000 Then, it would still be very negligent.

00:15:06.000 But, I mean, what are you supposed to say and do?

00:15:09.000 That's when I had to say, look, I advise people not to go out there on the property.

00:15:12.000 I've been saying that for a couple of months now.

00:15:14.000 And people are like, why aren't you supporting the first and second picnics?

00:15:19.000 I'm like, this isn't a picnic, folks.

00:15:21.000 This is people out there with .50 caliber rifles that are saying they're going to kill anybody that comes on the property.

00:15:27.000 Joe, it's now a war zone.

00:15:29.000 You don't have families out there running around eating hamburgers.

00:15:33.000 I'm not going to send people somewhere where they can get killed.

00:15:36.000 I said, if men want to go out there, that's your business. 0.99

00:15:39.000 And I said, we ought to have press conferences and get attention.

00:15:41.000 And I commend Randy Weaver, in fact, let's try to get him to pop in today, for going up there and trying to bring attention to this so it could end peacefully.

00:15:50.000 But the feds are in the wrong here.

00:15:54.000 They are private mercenaries.

00:15:55.000 That's the fact.

00:15:57.000 But then the Browns did a series of things, no doubt being advised by feds.

00:16:04.000 I mean, if you go to a militia meeting, you go to any of these things, half of them are feds there.

00:16:08.000 And you'll know who the feds are because they'll be calling for violence.

00:16:11.000 Or trying to sell you some army surplus they got a good deal on.

00:16:16.000 It's going to be stolen equipment.

00:16:17.000 You're going to go to jail.

00:16:19.000 I mean, they've got the... I see this over and over and over again.

00:16:23.000 And I just thank God the Browns weren't killed, that no Feds were killed so they could turn them into martyrs. 0.98

00:16:29.000 Oh, we now have Paul Watson back.

00:16:31.000 Paul, are you there?

00:16:33.000 You've been able to see the newscast, read more of the reports that just now came out.

00:16:33.000 Yes.

00:16:37.000 It's up on prisonplanet.com right now.

00:16:39.000 Anything I didn't cover that you've discovered?

00:16:43.000 I haven't seen the newscast, Alex.

00:16:44.000 They were going to have it streamed live on WMUR.

00:16:50.000 New Hampshire 9 TV station website but then they changed the location so it wasn't streamed live but they're saying it's going to be up on their website soon so I haven't seen it but what we do... We just now got it so we'll IM it to you so you can post it in your brother's report on InfoWars.net but go ahead.

00:17:09.000 Yeah we just got all the press reports that came out about an hour and a half ago.

00:17:17.000 So I was up on the prison planet about, you know, an hour ago.

00:17:22.000 So, yeah, basically they, they, uh, as we predicted earlier, because obviously I woke up and learned that they'd been arrested.

00:17:31.000 So a lot of times the best information that you can get when nothing's being reported on something is by going to the message board.

00:17:41.000 So I went to the prison planet message board and people were speculating that You know, because Ed Brown had said he would fight to the death rather than surrender, how was it possible for the Marshals to go in and peacefully, as we're told, arrest them?

00:17:58.000 So, obviously, the logical conclusion was that they posed as supporters and just went in there as a Trojan horse, and it turns out that that's exactly what happened.

00:18:09.000 Well, I mean, that was obvious.

00:18:10.000 If the Feds wanted to get the Browns, when they had those 300 people on their property, I'll bet bottom dollar there were 20 marshals and FBI there then.

00:18:19.000 And they've had FBI coming in in overalls, posing as hillbillies, and then openly saying, I'm FBI, you, you, you, you, you, Constitution Rangers are wimps.

00:18:30.000 I mean, it's just total fed up.

00:18:33.000 And a lot of the people getting them rounds to shoot their mouths off about violence no doubt were feds, and we've tracked that back.

00:18:39.000 And I'm just so tired of watching patriots fall into traps, but I'm just glad that they weren't able to go in there and murder all of them.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, I thought the Feds wanted to have this quiet down and try to end this peacefully until they flew the helicopter low for eight hours at 30 feet before they shot people with tasers, shot at Danny Reilly.

00:19:02.000 And then now this seems like a de-escalation that they didn't cap them.

00:19:06.000 And I think that's because the Marshals are genuinely worried about people coming after them.

00:19:11.000 And that is the safer move and the right move to not bust a cap in both of them, as we know the Feds are apt to do.

00:19:17.000 Anything else, Paul Watson?

00:19:20.000 Uh, just that people are still asking questions which haven't been answered about, you know, if they were violently subdued because the U.S.

00:19:29.000 Marshal Monnier admitted that they had not surrendered, which suggests that they at least put up some resistance.

00:19:36.000 So people are asking questions about how they were subdued before their actual arrest.

00:19:41.000 But we don't know what happened yet.

00:19:44.000 I can tell you what happened.

00:19:45.000 You got about five people around the Browns, all of a sudden they pull guns out and Sharpest are whipping them.

00:19:52.000 Alright, Paul stay there.

00:19:54.000 I've got one or two other questions for you on the other side.

00:19:57.000 We'll be right back, right here on the Houston Radio Network.

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00:24:03.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:24:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:13.000 We've got some of the press conference.

00:24:21.000 It's been posted up on prisonplanet.com.

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00:24:39.000 And we've got one of the people that's most angry about this coming on in the next segment.

00:24:43.000 Then Ron Paul, then Dave Mustaine of Megadeth.

00:24:46.000 Yes, it's a big show lined up for you today.

00:24:50.000 But going back to Paul Watson, As bad as this is, Paul, this is better than a shootout.

00:24:57.000 It's better than federal martyrs.

00:24:58.000 It's better than the Browns being martyrs.

00:25:02.000 Now we've got to make sure they don't get railroaded too badly, but they're in the clutches of the authorities, the officials, the gods.

00:25:10.000 What do you think of this whole saga?

00:25:14.000 Well, I mean, they live to fight another day, but, you know, it's 63 months in prison.

00:25:20.000 No doubt they're going to Keep on a bunch of other charges, because now they're already, the Monier was out saying that they'd found explosives and high-caliber weapons and that the whole property was booby-trapped.

00:25:35.000 So no doubt that 63-month prison sentence is just, you know, just for starters, but obviously it's a relief that it didn't end in bloodshed.

00:25:47.000 Maybe it's a portent for how they'll treat similar cases in the future.

00:25:53.000 And if there are more Ed and Elaine Browns out there, you know, if there are so many, then it gets to a point where they can't keep track of everyone.

00:26:02.000 So their example stands out as a shining light to everyone.

00:26:06.000 And the courage that they displayed throughout the whole standoff was admirable.

00:26:14.000 Their courage is admirable.

00:26:17.000 But I wish they wouldn't have let themselves be set up. 0.97

00:26:22.000 Because there's no doubt that the feds were in there trying to provocateur and get them to shoot their mouths off.

00:26:29.000 And there's no doubt now that they fell into that trap.

00:26:32.000 Because if they would have been peaceful in their statements all along, there wouldn't be all these added added charges now cascading down onto them.

00:26:41.000 And I would love to say the feds made up the pipe bombs, but because they've been caught doing it and admitted on the stand, they buried pipe bombs on people's property before and framed a lot of people.

00:26:51.000 We've had Dr. Frederick Whitehurst, former head of the FBI crime lab, on years ago to talk about how they frame people.

00:26:56.000 But when Brown and others were openly shooting their mouths off about this, let me tell you, it was not helpful for those of us that were trying to de-escalate the situation.

00:27:07.000 situation.

00:27:07.000 Thank you.

00:27:09.000 Well, no, and the Fed seized on that for intimidation purposes after they started arresting the Browns' supporters because of this violent rhetoric, so yeah, they could have played it differently in that sense, and obviously the dwindling amount of supporters Well, they wouldn't even let the media in anymore, and that's just plain stupid. 0.90

00:27:30.000 You always want to get people to keep talking.

00:27:33.000 Without that intimidation, a lot of people stopped going to their aid.

00:27:37.000 So that could have played out differently.

00:27:39.000 Well, they wouldn't even let the media in anymore. 1.00

00:27:42.000 And that's just plain stupid. 0.99

00:27:44.000 You always want to get people to keep talking. 1.00

00:27:46.000 Well, yeah.

00:27:49.000 But, I mean, you've obviously got to look at it from their perspective.

00:27:53.000 If you've been holed up there in their home for that amount of time with all the threats flying around, then you're going to get paranoid.

00:28:02.000 And that's going to, you know, affect your thinking and affect your strategy.

00:28:07.000 So I just look at them as being incredibly courageous, but relieved in the sense that it didn't end in a Waco 2.

00:28:16.000 But now they live to fight another day after they eventually get out of prison.

00:28:25.000 Well, I think they're going to be in prison a long time.

00:28:27.000 We need to make sure that they get support in a proper defense.

00:28:35.000 I mean, they're going to try to put all sorts of sentences on them now because of statements that were made and things that were done.

00:28:46.000 But I'll be interested to find out who was posing as patriots all along and was really FBI and federal marshals.

00:28:53.000 In all these newscasts and clips, I'm trying to read through them, Paul, do we know how many people first subdued them before all the hundreds of police came on the scene?

00:29:02.000 All it says is a small team of marshals, so I'm guessing, you know, three, four, five.

00:29:08.000 Because if they get a big group of guys walking up to the house, obviously they're going to get suspicious, so I don't think it would have been any more than four or five individuals, maximum.

00:29:23.000 Well, I tell you, a lot of bravery on both sides.

00:29:27.000 Because usually the feds would just burn the building down in the past, like they tried at Ruby Ridge, like they did at Waco, because they're too scared to actually get up close to their quarry.

00:29:38.000 So while I despise the feds for their criminal actions, I am at least glad they didn't kill them, and I'm glad they didn't burn the place down. 0.96

00:29:47.000 They'd be true cowards. 0.96

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run. 0.97

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00:34:07.000 New revelations and attack on American spy ships.

00:34:10.000 Veterans documents suggest U.S.

00:34:12.000 Israel didn't tell the full story of the deadly 1967 incident.

00:34:18.000 That is out of the Boston Baltimore Sun.

00:34:22.000 That is also a Boston Globe story here.

00:34:25.000 Another one out of the Chicago Tribune.

00:34:29.000 New revelations of an attack on an American spy ship.

00:34:31.000 Veterans documents suggest U.S.

00:34:33.000 Israel didn't tell the full story of the deadly 1967 incident.

00:34:39.000 And it continues that Bryce Lockwood, Marine Staff Sergeant, Russian language expert, recipient of the Silver Star for heroism, ordained Baptist minister, is shouting into the phone, I'm angry!

00:34:53.000 I'm seething with anger.

00:34:54.000 Forty years and I'm still seething with anger.

00:34:58.000 Lockwood was aboard the USS Liberty, the most highly decorated U.S.

00:35:01.000 ship in U.S.

00:35:01.000 history, I would add, a super-secret spy ship on station in the eastern Mediterranean when four Israeli fighter jets flew out of the afternoon sun to strafe bomb and then the virtually defenseless vessel on June 8, 1967, the fourth day of what would become known as the Six-Day War.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, they attacked with Mirage, they attacked with Daesan missile re-bombers, they attacked with patrol boats, they attacked and attacked and attacked and attacked for hour after hour.

00:35:31.000 And now there have been some big new developments.

00:35:35.000 Now we've interviewed admirals involved, and we've interviewed the judge advocate generals involved, and those who were told to whitewash the whole thing.

00:35:41.000 We've interviewed so many people, many of them have died now.

00:35:44.000 The captain of the ship, and we've interviewed Admiral Thomas More, later to become Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:35:51.000 We've interviewed so many.

00:35:54.000 Really, I've been interviewing people for 10 years, but this has been going on for 40.

00:35:57.000 And joining us is that individual who was in the Chicago Tribune and other papers around the country, and who was on that ship 40 years ago.

00:36:07.000 Bryce Lockwood.

00:36:09.000 Sir, I appreciate your service to this country, and I appreciate your continuing to honor those that died that day and those that were wounded that day by speaking out.

00:36:18.000 Thank you, sir.

00:36:21.000 Instead of me getting into these new revelations, if you could, just set the table for those that don't know what happened with the Liberty in a few minutes, and then walk through the denials, the attacks on the heroes, those that have spoken out, and then what this new info means.

00:36:35.000 Well, basically, the new info is transcripts of voice intercept tapes that were taken by both a Navy airborne collection platform and an Air Force airborne collection platform.

00:36:49.000 National Security Agency had denied for years that they had the tapes, and yet here they turned up under a Freedom of Information Act after 40 years has expired.

00:37:00.000 They're pretty damning.

00:37:02.000 The Israelis clearly identify the ship as American and attacked it anyway. 0.99

00:37:08.000 And this is outside Israeli waters, in international waters, in the Mediterranean?

00:37:12.000 We were about 13.7 miles off the Sinai coast when we were attacked.

00:37:19.000 There are some of us now that think the primary reason for Israel attacking us, they had captured an entire Egyptian brigade, somewhere in excess of 850 men.

00:37:31.000 Forced them to dig their own graves.

00:37:33.000 Many of them had their hands bound behind them after they dug their graves and were massacred by the Israelis on June 8, 1967.

00:37:41.000 With Ariel Sharon overseeing the operation?

00:37:44.000 I understand that, yes.

00:37:46.000 And here comes the US spy ship.

00:37:49.000 Now we've got a problem.

00:37:51.000 Now, that's the report I always got from the admirals and the captain and people ten years ago.

00:37:56.000 Over time, though, most of the heroes of the Liberty also believed that there was a plan to then go ahead and blame it on Egypt and then escalate the war.

00:38:07.000 That is quite likely.

00:38:10.000 We don't know all the details.

00:38:12.000 There is a... Operation Cyanide messages were passed between Washington, D.C.

00:38:19.000 and the captain of the ship.

00:38:22.000 Captain McGonigal.

00:38:23.000 They were labeled Captain's Eyes Only.

00:38:27.000 Just the very label, Operation Cyanide, sends a chill through your veins.

00:38:36.000 We don't know what that was all about.

00:38:38.000 There's been some speculation.

00:38:40.000 There was a Scottish reporter that wrote a book on Operation Cyanide on a Liberty attack.

00:38:46.000 And that was pretty much his premise.

00:38:48.000 By the way, a people who knew what cyanide was will start talking about it and then die within hours of heart attacks.

00:38:57.000 That's a possibility, I'd say.

00:38:59.000 Well, we've seen that.

00:39:00.000 Every time it comes up, it's a very dangerous subject.

00:39:02.000 And I know that McGonigal wouldn't talk very much about that.

00:39:07.000 Captain McGonigal, I firmly believe he very much deserved the Medal of Honor for his entire conduct Throughout the attack and until Admiral Kidd came aboard.

00:39:22.000 From the time that Admiral Kidd joined the ship before she even reached Malta, a lid was clamped on everything.

00:39:29.000 We were ordered not to talk about it.

00:39:32.000 Captain McGonigal was in his last cruise.

00:39:36.000 He was going to be forced to retire after this cruise where Liberty was attacked.

00:39:42.000 Suddenly he's awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

00:39:46.000 He's promoted to full captain and given his choice of duty.

00:39:51.000 And it sure sounds to me and many of the other crewmen that the captain was paid off to keep quiet.

00:39:57.000 Absolutely.

00:39:58.000 Now walk through specifically, and again we're talking to USS Liberty hero and survivor Bryce Lockwood.

00:40:04.000 Bryce is a young Marine officer on that ship.

00:40:07.000 What were you doing?

00:40:09.000 I was a Russian linguist until I was enlisted.

00:40:11.000 I was not an officer.

00:40:13.000 But I was a Russian linguist, and that was my primary responsibility.

00:40:18.000 There was a group of Soviet Tu-95s stationed at Alexandria, Egypt.

00:40:24.000 And the Soviets had pretty well told the world that they were manned by United Arab Republic crews.

00:40:29.000 They weren't.

00:40:30.000 They were manned by Soviets in United Arab Republic uniforms.

00:40:37.000 And our job was to locate By radio, those Soviet aircraft, and to get the goods on them if we could.

00:40:47.000 Incidentally, just seconds before the torpedo struck, my watch relief was a gentleman by the name of Jim Lupton.

00:40:55.000 Jim comes excitedly into the processing and reporting area, and he says, Hey Sarge, I got them, I got them!

00:41:01.000 I said, Got who, Jim?

00:41:02.000 He said, I got the Ruskies!

00:41:03.000 I said, You're kidding!

00:41:04.000 He said, No man, I got them, plain language!

00:41:07.000 And within Just a matter of seconds the torpedo struck and killed him.

00:41:13.000 So you guys didn't know you'd already been approached by torpedo boats.

00:41:16.000 The captain saw their attack angle and was already trying to take evasive action.

00:41:20.000 If he wouldn't have, no doubt, you would have been completely destroyed.

00:41:23.000 Can you describe, because the media always waters it down and says a few planes dropped a few bombs lovingly on you.

00:41:29.000 Can you walk through why it's the most decorated ship in U.S.

00:41:32.000 history?

00:41:34.000 Well, a few bombs.

00:41:36.000 There were 840 large caliber strikes on the ship.

00:41:42.000 A couple of those were napalm that destroyed all of our life rafts.

00:41:50.000 There was nothing left of the life rafts but shreds from the napalm.

00:41:55.000 The torpedo boats, there were over 3,100 large caliber machine gun strikes.

00:41:59.000 50 caliber machine gun strikes Actually, I think they say they're a 30mm cannon, but it's about equivalent to the American .50 caliber machine gun bullet.

00:42:15.000 She was riddled!

00:42:17.000 And for the Israelis to say it was a case of mistaken identity just flies in the face of anyone that's ever been at sea.

00:42:27.000 We had home markings on there, GTR5.

00:42:30.000 Before you fire the ship at sea, you look up on Jane's Fighting Ships and find out the target that you're firing on.

00:42:38.000 It would be just like walking downtown with a pistol in your hand and finding a cop and throwing his head away and then claim, well, I thought he was robbing a bank.

00:42:46.000 That's about the equivalent of what the Israelis were doing to us. 1.00

00:42:49.000 Go to James Fighting Ships, look that number up, GTR-5, it will say in there, Auxiliary, which means she's a non-combatant, General Technical Research, in the fifth ship of her class, the newest and most modern of her class.

00:43:02.000 Well, what, five, six years ago, an Israeli pilot came out and admitted that three times he refused to fire, and they said go ahead and do it, so that was, you know, open and shut there, but now we have these communiques released.

00:43:15.000 Yes.

00:43:17.000 Or they come right out and identify it.

00:43:20.000 As an American ship.

00:43:22.000 Flying an American flag.

00:43:26.000 And talking to the others, but this is for memory, I want to make sure I'm correct, because it was a war zone, wasn't the ship flying an unusually large flag?

00:43:37.000 The flag that was flying in the initial air attack was knocked down.

00:43:43.000 Then the holiday flag was run up, which is the largest flag you have aboard ship.

00:43:50.000 I'm not exactly sure of the size, but I think it's something like 20 feet by 30 feet or 16 by 30 feet, something of that nature.

00:43:56.000 Gigantic.

00:43:57.000 Huge.

00:43:59.000 Yes.

00:44:01.000 And what did they do to the holiday flag?

00:44:03.000 Oh, riddled it with shellfire.

00:44:08.000 Riddled it with shellfire.

00:44:12.000 There's been all these defenders and debunkers who've tried to write books and tell lies and say horrible things about the vets.

00:44:19.000 And the Heroes of Liberty, boy, they really are eating crow right now!

00:44:24.000 Well, I hope they are.

00:44:26.000 But I'm sure there's still... The one in particular, Jay Kristol, incidentally, he's an admiral in the United States Navy Reserves.

00:44:35.000 He's probably retired by now.

00:44:37.000 He's the one that wrote the thesis for a doctorate from the University of Miami, and that never should have been granted because I understand that he was there for economics, and yet he wrote this thesis on the liberty of how it was an accident, quote-unquote, and got his doctorate.

00:44:56.000 That should have been withdrawn.

00:44:58.000 Now, how many hours did this now confirm deliberate attack?

00:45:01.000 This is huge news, ladies and gentlemen.

00:45:03.000 How long did they accidentally bomb the ship?

00:45:06.000 Somewhere around two hours.

00:45:09.000 Some say more than that, some say a little less than that.

00:45:11.000 I think, actually, from the time that the first shot was fired until the last shot was fired, was very close to two hours.

00:45:22.000 You know, sometimes when we have a news story this big on air, I don't have words to describe just how important it is.

00:45:29.000 This has been a 40-year fight for justice.

00:45:32.000 Here it is, out in the open, NSA aircraft intercepts, Can you specifically go through more of, and you know, plus you were trained in intercepting different intercepts, so you're specifically the perfect guest for this, not just one of the heroes and victims of this, but also you're an expert in intercepts.

00:45:50.000 Can you speak to us how these are intercepted, why they're so important?

00:45:57.000 Well, the Israelis had a nuclear weapon, and I suppose were threatening to use it.

00:46:06.000 And the Soviets had, excuse me, an ICBM submarine off Israel loaded with nuclear weapons.

00:46:18.000 There's a book out about that.

00:46:21.000 I think the number of the submarine was SB-151, but I may be wrong on that.

00:46:27.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:46:29.000 But the captain of that submarine was ordered, if Israel uses the nuclear weapons, incinerate it.

00:46:37.000 So here is the makings of World War III right on the doorstep.

00:46:44.000 And for anyone with a lick of common sense to think that we're not going to make sure we've got all the bases covered is rather presumptuous.

00:46:53.000 We had Air Force reconnaissance planes, we had Navy reconnaissance planes, we had the USS Liberty making sure that all the bases were covered, that if any information was out there of impending hostilities it would Border on World War 3.

00:47:07.000 We need to know about it.

00:47:10.000 Because it's World War 3!

00:47:11.000 You'd want to know about that.

00:47:13.000 You're... Well, I started using X-Men.

00:47:17.000 So, all this is being recorded, probably more tapes than just these aircraft, obviously.

00:47:23.000 You've got the big hot zone in the world at that time, a major war going.

00:47:27.000 Now, what about hours later when the Israeli commando helicopters show up with commandos on board In their assault gear, a lot of the other heroes of the Liberty and officers believe that it was the Russian spy ship observing this that did finally cause the Israelis to abort because they knew the Russians would report that.

00:47:45.000 There was a Russian destroyer that had been shadowing us our entire trip from the time we left the road to Spain until we were on station.

00:47:52.000 There was a Soviet destroyer that was shadowing us.

00:47:55.000 And it's quite obvious that they were keeping an eye on things and listening in also.

00:48:00.000 As a matter of fact, they were one of the first ones to offer us aid, which the captain refused.

00:48:08.000 I heard the helicopters come over.

00:48:10.000 I did not actually see them myself, but I heard the helicopters coming over, and I was lying on the deck in the radio room.

00:48:18.000 Every transmitting antenna we had had been destroyed.

00:48:22.000 A couple of Commander Lewis's, he was the operations officer, Commander Lewis, A couple of his men went up topside.

00:48:29.000 Terry Halbardi was one of them.

00:48:31.000 I forget who the other is off the top of my head right now.

00:48:33.000 And strung a long wire while these torpedo boats are riddling the ship with machine gun fire.

00:48:39.000 If that's not bravery, I don't know what is.

00:48:42.000 Came back down in the radio room and got a mayday off.

00:48:45.000 And I was there listening to it.

00:48:47.000 Firefox!

00:48:48.000 This is Rockstar!

00:48:49.000 Rockstar under attack by unidentified surface and naval air units.

00:48:53.000 Require immediate assistance.

00:48:55.000 And as soon as the carrier Saratoga acknowledged it and said help is on the way, the shooting stopped.

00:49:02.000 I say it stopped.

00:49:04.000 I saw three sailors carrying the old World War II cork life rafts.

00:49:10.000 We had three of those inside the ship.

00:49:13.000 They were taking those to put over the side and get the most seriously wounded off onto them.

00:49:20.000 I saw them go through the radio room, over to the port side of the ship.

00:49:28.000 I heard an engine rev up.

00:49:30.000 And more machine gun fire, and I found out later that the Israeli torpedo boats had riddled those life rafts and carried off what was left of them.

00:49:39.000 Now see, I've been told that by the admirals, by the first mates, by the doctor, and then I get attacked by the news media saying I just made that up.

00:49:49.000 That they didn't shoot up the life rafts.

00:49:54.000 Well, I heard the shooting.

00:49:55.000 I didn't actually witness it first hand.

00:49:57.000 But I've interviewed the people that did, and they're on record too, and the media just lies and lies and says we're liars.

00:50:04.000 You gotta protect Israel. 0.74

00:50:08.000 This is incredible.

00:50:09.000 What are they going to do that now all these NSA intercepts have been released that the Israelis were identifying it as a U.S.

00:50:15.000 ship anew?

00:50:17.000 I'm pissed about their attack on Lebanon last year.

00:50:21.000 There was no call for that.

00:50:24.000 Literally thousands of Lebanese were killed and the entire country of Lebanon destroyed by the Israelis.

00:50:30.000 Because two Israeli soldiers were captured?

00:50:34.000 Give me a break! 1.00

00:50:35.000 It's unbelievable.

00:50:38.000 Stay there, sir.

00:50:39.000 We've got a break.

00:50:39.000 We're going to come right back to you after a couple of minutes.

00:50:41.000 Bruce Lockwood, he was in the Marines on that ship, in the spy box, down in the ship, seeing all this unfold 40 years ago, and now the truth's come out.

00:50:54.000 We'll be right back when the truth is exactly what these heroes said it was.

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00:54:00.000 Bryce Lockwood, Marine Staff Sergeant, Russian language expert, recipient of the Silver Star for Heroism.

00:54:24.000 ordained Baptist minister is our guest.

00:54:28.000 He was on the Liberty 40 years ago.

00:54:30.000 I've got the Chicago Tribune here in front of me, and it's got the Chicago Tribune, one of their experts who, you know, deciphers Israeli, who's Israeli himself, reading it, and he's just going over, listening to the tapes.

00:54:48.000 And it says it's an American ship, just as the pilot years ago had said.

00:54:54.000 And they're told, but it's Americans.

00:54:57.000 And they're told, no, go ahead and attack it.

00:55:00.000 And we're going to read part of this transcript coming up in the next hour.

00:55:07.000 Now, if it can be shown that American naval officers and politicians knew about all this beforehand, which we know in Executive Session they did, I think there needs to be criminal charges against them.

00:55:17.000 I mean, this is covering up war crimes.

00:55:20.000 This is becoming accessories after the fact.

00:55:22.000 Is it not, sir?

00:55:24.000 Yes.

00:55:26.000 Your phone just got a gigantic hum on it.

00:55:28.000 Did you switch phones?

00:55:29.000 Uh, no.

00:55:31.000 I'm not calling for the best phone I've got in the house.

00:55:33.000 I'm sorry.

00:55:34.000 You can just get closer to the jack, sir.

00:55:34.000 That's okay.

00:55:35.000 I apologize.

00:55:37.000 Go ahead.

00:55:37.000 I'm having to stop you.

00:55:39.000 We were talking during the break, what are some of the other key points that need to be made here about war crimes?

00:55:44.000 The machining of life rafts, machine gunning of life rafts, machine gunning of stretcher bearers and first aid personnel while they were trying to rescue wounded, the use of napalm, the ignoring of internationally recognized Signs of friendly ships at sea.

00:56:13.000 All of those are major war crimes. 0.63

00:56:16.000 The USS Liberty Veterans Association, through legal counsel, retired Navy Admiral Merlin Starring, and another retired Navy Admiral by the name of Mark Hill, drew up the war crimes charges for the Liberty Veterans Association and they were presented formally On June the 8th of 2005.

00:56:42.000 It is the duty of the Secretary of the Army to investigate any war crimes charges that are brought by United States citizens or military personnel.

00:56:51.000 By the way, the guys writing it up have been at the highest levels of the naval JAG hierarchy.

00:56:57.000 Yes.

00:56:58.000 Yes.

00:56:59.000 You've seen the... I'm sure you've seen the show... Many of your listeners have seen the show JAG.

00:57:05.000 It used to run on CBS.

00:57:07.000 This is a guy with a big, broad, gold stripes on his sleeve.

00:57:11.000 The head JAG officer.

00:57:13.000 Merlin starring Admiral Merlin starring.

00:57:16.000 And the Secretary of the Army has ignored those war crimes charges.

00:57:21.000 It is his duty, under public law, to investigate them.

00:57:25.000 But they can't do it!

00:57:26.000 They can't do it now!

00:57:27.000 The NSA intercepts have been released!

00:57:32.000 Well, he certainly should, all the same.

00:57:35.000 Well, we still have some survivors around.

00:57:37.000 There ought to be an investigation made by Congress.

00:57:41.000 They have never investigated it.

00:57:43.000 In spite of all of the Israeli backers stating, oh, there's been 15 investigations, there's been 17 investigations.

00:57:53.000 No, there was only one.

00:57:54.000 Sorry.

00:57:56.000 There was only one investigation, and that was the one conducted by the Admiral Kidd Court.

00:58:02.000 And the conclusions were predetermined by the Johnson administration.

00:58:07.000 Actually, I believe Lyndon Johnson himself.

00:58:09.000 Well, Lyndon Johnson, I talked to the two admirals that heard it, came on the line and said, that Judy ship's going to the bottom before we help it. 0.99

00:58:16.000 So, I mean, there you go.

00:58:18.000 He was, he knew exactly what was going on when the aircraft carrier sent fighter jets to go save the ship.

00:58:22.000 He said, turn it around.

00:58:23.000 Did he not?

00:58:26.000 I was made a back to the carrier America.

00:58:29.000 Along with the operations officer.

00:58:31.000 Stay there, we've got a break for 70 seconds, sir.

00:58:33.000 We'll come right back and talk about that and get into this transcript.

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01:00:02.000 Huge news right now, ladies and gentlemen, out of the Chicago Tribune a few days ago.

01:00:07.000 I mentioned it, but I really wanted to save it, the story, until we got this particular gentleman on, who we haven't interviewed before.

01:00:13.000 We've interviewed much of the survivors of the crew, from first mates to doctors to admirals who took the calls from LBJ.

01:00:20.000 The NSA has released spy aircraft tapes of the Israeli pilots to ground control.

01:00:27.000 Being ordered, they're saying it's an American.

01:00:30.000 Look, attack the ship.

01:00:31.000 And that they did know from the onset of the attack in 1967, 40 years ago, what was happening.

01:00:39.000 And so joining us is Bryce Lockwood, Marine Staff Sergeant, Russian language expert, recipient of the Silver Star for Heroism.

01:00:46.000 This is a short segment, so let's get into that.

01:00:48.000 I remember interviewing two of the admirals who were on the ship, took the call.

01:00:51.000 Talking to others who had talked to them about it and their admissions So but but people hear this and they still can't believe it and the two different stories are only differ in a couple of words It's either LBJ says over the phone.

01:01:04.000 I told you to recall those planes.

01:01:06.000 Don't help that ship I don't care if it goes to the GD bottom to I want that ship going to the GD bottom and those tapes of those admirals and people saying that are all on my website Now I know you were in the belly of the ship under attack in the spy box, but what happened? 0.51

01:01:22.000 Well, perhaps I should try and give you some quotes from Commander Lewis, who is the operations officer.

01:01:29.000 We were both medevac to the carrier America.

01:01:32.000 While we were there, Admiral Geist, who was commander of Sixth Fleet, called Commander Armstrong into his stateroom and swore him to secrecy.

01:01:42.000 He said, you're not to say anything about this conversation until after my death.

01:01:48.000 But I want you to know, we did our best to get rescue aircraft to you.

01:01:53.000 And then he quoted President Johnson as saying, I don't care if the GD ships sinks and every man drowns, I will not have my allies embarrassed.

01:02:02.000 Now, you were told that to your face.

01:02:05.000 No, I was not.

01:02:06.000 It was told to Commander Lewis that Commander Lewis passed it along to those of us Liberty survivors at our reunions.

01:02:13.000 Now, what about the quote I've had?

01:02:15.000 I'm going to look up which admiral it was.

01:02:16.000 I've had so many on the show that said, I want that GD ship on the bottom. 0.93

01:02:21.000 I don't want our allies.

01:02:22.000 I mean, there's a slight difference there.

01:02:25.000 Have you heard that version?

01:02:27.000 No, I've not.

01:02:27.000 Okay.

01:02:29.000 I just want to try to flesh that out a bit.

01:02:30.000 But regardless, he's saying, I don't care if it goes to Judy Bottom, I don't want to embarrass our allies, and he indeed ordered the aircraft back.

01:02:39.000 It's my understanding that Admiral McCain, Senator McCain's father, at the time was commander of U.S.

01:02:48.000 forces in Europe, U.S.

01:02:49.000 naval forces in Europe.

01:02:51.000 I believe he was at London, England at the time.

01:02:55.000 Admiral McCain is the one who ordered the aircraft back.

01:02:59.000 Admiral Geist, who was Commander Sixth Fleet, said, this is an American ship, it's under attack, I want to hear that from higher authority.

01:03:07.000 Robert McNamara told him the same thing, get those rescue aircraft back.

01:03:11.000 And Admiral Geist said, I want to exercise my authority to appeal to the highest level of command, the President of the United States, It's my understanding from the conversations between Admiral Geist and Commander Armstrong that the President told him, I don't care if the GD's ship sinks and every man drowns, I will not have my allies embarrassed.

01:03:34.000 Now think about that.

01:03:37.000 That's LBJ for ya. 1.00

01:03:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen, what a traitor, what a piece of filth. 1.00

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01:08:09.000 He said no.

01:08:10.000 In there it also said blow up a ship and blame it on enemies.

01:08:15.000 I was just curious, Bryce Lockwood, who was on board the USS Liberty and highly decorated, have you ever heard of Operation Northwoods?

01:08:23.000 No, sir.

01:08:24.000 Does it surprise you to know that that was declassified a few years ago?

01:08:29.000 No, it actually doesn't.

01:08:31.000 I have a copy of a transcript from the Kennedy years of a conversation between then General Curtis LeMay and the Commandant of the Marine Corps, General David M. Shoup.

01:08:44.000 And the conversation went something along the lines of setting up a ship to be attacked by the Soviets and blaming it on them and then precipitating a major world event. 0.85

01:08:57.000 Now, see, I didn't know that, and that's why history is so big.

01:09:00.000 It's wet than breath.

01:09:01.000 It's so huge.

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01:09:08.000 And there, I just learned from you, you just learned from me.

01:09:11.000 Yeah, Operation Northwoods, they were gonna basically carry out 9-11 style attacks, and We even have people board aircraft, but they had all sorts of stuff.

01:09:22.000 Kill astronauts, blame it on the Soviets. 0.84

01:09:25.000 Yeah, just Google Operation Northwoods, ABC News, Baltimore Sun reported on it.

01:09:29.000 Very, very interesting is all I can say.

01:09:34.000 That particular incident is news to me, but I'm certainly going to try and look that up.

01:09:41.000 I know I'm catching you off guard, but maybe after the show you can think of where it is and tell me, sir, or email me.

01:09:47.000 Where specifically can I find the head of the Air Force, who is an admitted psychopath, talking to someone else about staging events?

01:09:56.000 That was Commander of the Marine Corps, General David Shoup.

01:10:00.000 I'll have to do some digging to find that for you, Alex, but that shouldn't be that much of a problem.

01:10:05.000 I can come up with that and see to it that you get a copy.

01:10:08.000 Our folks can probably look forward to it and post it in the Prison Planet Forum.

01:10:12.000 War crimes.

01:10:13.000 Let's talk about war crimes.

01:10:14.000 We started mentioning that earlier in the segment, but now we have the transmissions of the Israelis.

01:10:19.000 I'm sitting there looking at them in the Chicago Tribune saying that, just as the pilot said years ago, that it was an American ship.

01:10:29.000 There should be a complete investigation done by Congress.

01:10:44.000 You can't get a Congressman to touch it.

01:10:48.000 I think that if you go through the records of most Congress people, where their contributions come from, they're required by law to be made public.

01:10:56.000 I think you'll be shocked at how much money our Congress people and Senators are getting from the American-Israel Political Affairs Committee.

01:11:08.000 It is absolutely shocking how much power they have.

01:11:11.000 I just found out recently, I graduated from the same college as Dr. Jerry Falwell, Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Missouri, and I was just informed recently that Jerry Falwell was paid off quite handsomely by the Israelis for his complete unquestioned backing of the State of Israel, to the tune of a Learjet aircraft worth 1.6 million dollars.

01:11:41.000 Yeah, all total, Israel's given him over 4 mil that we know of.

01:11:45.000 Jerry Falwell?

01:11:46.000 Yeah.

01:11:48.000 And it's the same thing with other preachers around the country, and Now we have known dual citizens running almost every major federal department.

01:11:59.000 It's pretty bad.

01:12:01.000 I wasn't aware that there was quite that much money that had been given to Dr. Fawlow, but that would certainly explain why he comes on television even after his death and advocates people donating $350 to get a Soviet person of Jewish extract but that would certainly explain why he comes on television even after his death and advocates people donating $350 to get a Soviet person of Travel back to Israel and set up their citizenship in Israel.

01:12:26.000 Well, you know, I've been criticized because I don't hate Israel.

01:12:29.000 I know most governments are corrupt throughout history.

01:12:32.000 I'm a Christian.

01:12:32.000 You know, I brought up a Baptist.

01:12:35.000 I'm really non-denominational now.

01:12:37.000 Excuse me for interrupting, Alex, but I don't hate Israel.

01:12:41.000 I really don't hate Israel.

01:12:45.000 I really want your listeners to make sure of that.

01:12:50.000 I think they have every right to exist.

01:12:52.000 Oh no, let me stop you, sir.

01:12:53.000 I mean, I'm agreeing with you.

01:12:55.000 I mean, I'm saying I'm brought up a Baptist, I'm brought up, you know, literally being taught to worship Israel at church, and I have Jewish friends, I know half the folks in Israel are against all these wars, but yes, it's just like we've had criminal governments, just like Germany's had bad governments, it is not a sin, and you're a pastor, and so tell me if I'm correct to say that To rebuke Israel when it's corrupt and evil. 0.85

01:13:18.000 Isn't that what all the prophets did?

01:13:20.000 Exactly.

01:13:21.000 Exactly.

01:13:23.000 And they should be rebuked very strenuously for the war crimes that they've committed against the people of Lebanon, against the United Arab Republic back in the Six Days War in 1967.

01:13:34.000 in 1967.

01:13:37.000 I don't understand why, excuse me, I'm getting some age on me now, I'm My mind gets a little fuzzy from time to time.

01:13:46.000 I can't recall who the President of Egypt was at the time of the Six Days War, but he was anxious to get back to Sinai Peninsula after the war, and there was the accords with Menachem Begin and Jimmy Carter, and the President of Egypt were all given the Nobel Peace Prize for settling

01:14:11.000 the deal over the Sinai Peninsula, which was given back to Egypt after Israel taken it during the Six Days War.

01:14:19.000 But it would just seem to me as though if I had been in negotiations, I would have brought up the deal about the massacre at El Erish and asked for an explanation on that and demanded that some people be brought to trial. - Well, I've had the weird I've had the weird spin which is now the dominant group, you know, Baptist types, tell me, okay, the Israelis did kill those people to stop them from getting the massacre news and to attack Egypt. 0.52

01:14:48.000 You're not with the Soviets and the Egyptians. 1.00

01:14:50.000 You know, Israel had to do that.

01:14:52.000 It's of the Lord.

01:14:52.000 Since when is murdering our sailors of the Lord?

01:14:55.000 That's a real good question.

01:14:57.000 I know that there are some people.

01:15:00.000 We had a discussion here in Springfield at one of the major Springfield libraries last fall.

01:15:07.000 Dr. Ray McGovern, who is a retired CIA senior officer, it was his job to brief the vice president, the secretary of state, and secretary of defense, I believe, on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Tuesday and Thursday.

01:15:24.000 It was Reagan and Bush, yeah.

01:15:26.000 It was Ray McGovern with his responsibility to brief these most senior people, the President, Hey, it's okay.

01:15:38.000 I understand there's a lot going on.

01:15:41.000 was here in Springfield and brought up the question the attack on Liberty and oh oh Alex I'm sorry just lost my train of thought hey it's okay I understand there's a lot going on looking here at the Chicago Tribune going through the transcript it has the aircraft bombing and they bomb it the first time I They've already said it's American.

01:16:08.000 They say they don't want to bomb it.

01:16:10.000 And the teletype, it says the transcript, Block remembered seeing, we're teletypists, way beyond top secret, some kind of pilots did not want to attack, Block said.

01:16:22.000 The pilot said, this is an American ship, do we still want to attack?

01:16:25.000 And the ground control came back and said, yes, follow orders.

01:16:29.000 And it goes on to say after the ship had gotten radio out, that they panicked and wanted them to finish off the job. 0.99

01:16:36.000 You know, that after you guys were able to string a wire and get the message off, that then the Israelis really panicked and said, hurry up, kill them! 0.80

01:16:45.000 I don't doubt that in the least, Alex. 0.93

01:16:50.000 Oh gosh, I'm sorry, my mind just keeps going blank.

01:16:53.000 And it says right here, it says, but sir, it's an American ship!

01:16:58.000 Some of those pilots were trained right here in the United States.

01:17:02.000 And they certainly must have had some friendships they struck up while they were going to pilot school here in the United States.

01:17:09.000 Well, here's the question.

01:17:10.000 Why did Geiss send the following orders?

01:17:12.000 I mean, at least he questioned, unlike others.

01:17:14.000 I mean, why did the Israelis follow orders? 0.99

01:17:16.000 I mean, at least they did question.

01:17:19.000 Yes, they did question.

01:17:20.000 Incidentally, we had a reunion in 1992, it was our 25th anniversary reunion in Rapid City, South Dakota.

01:17:30.000 Joe Tully, Captain Joe Tully, was the skipper of the USS Saratoga.

01:17:36.000 And Captain Tully called me over to him and shook my hand.

01:17:39.000 He says, Marines said, I want you to know, we did our best to get help to you, but I was overpowered by the President himself.

01:17:50.000 Captain Joe Tully, skipper of the Saratoga.

01:17:54.000 But still, if I was a naval officer and the President said, stick children into meat grinders, I wouldn't do it.

01:18:01.000 I guess it's that training?

01:18:03.000 I mean, to follow an order to let your own people die?

01:18:05.000 I don't know what to say about that.

01:18:10.000 Well, for anybody that doubts that in this corrupt society now that our police won't follow orders and things like that, you better think twice, folks, because Because I'll just follow orders no matter what.

01:18:21.000 It just really causes bad things to happen.

01:18:24.000 Lyndon Johnson and Secretary McNamara should have been tried for treason for the Liberty incident.

01:18:30.000 Stay there.

01:18:31.000 I want to come back in a final five-minute segment with you, sir.

01:18:31.000 Quick break.

01:18:34.000 I really appreciate Bryce Lockwood, one of the heroes of the USS Liberty, for joining us.

01:18:38.000 To talk about any other key points that we've missed or have a discussion on the other side, then we're scheduled to have the Congressman Ron Paul popping in for the segment and then Dave Mustang.

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01:23:02.000 Look at your wings flying.

01:23:05.000 Look at your young man dying.

01:23:09.000 The way they've always done before.

01:23:13.000 We are joined by Bryce Lockwood.

01:23:17.000 We have one little short segment left here.

01:23:19.000 Then Congressman Ron Paul is going to be joining us.

01:23:21.000 Absolutely incredible story.

01:23:25.000 Incredible that even the Chicago Tribune has got the transcripts where they didn't want to attack, were ordered to, just as one of the pilots went public seven years ago and admitted.

01:23:34.000 But still the neocons said, no, no, Israel-levelism was sweet when their own pilot admitted it.

01:23:40.000 They were ordered three times, attack.

01:23:41.000 And they did attack.

01:23:44.000 But George Butler, who has a show right here on the Genesis Network Saturday nights, a friend of mine for many years, I guess I ought to talk to people more.

01:23:51.000 I didn't know... I knew George had been in the military.

01:23:53.000 I didn't know George was involved with the Liberty.

01:23:55.000 At least heard some of this and saw some of it happen.

01:23:57.000 Uh, George, we've just got a few minutes here.

01:23:59.000 Tell your story real fast to, uh, Mr. Lockwood.

01:24:02.000 Okay, uh, Mr. Lockwood?

01:24:03.000 Yes, sir, George.

01:24:04.000 I was ASA.

01:24:05.000 I was in Germany, West Berlin, uh, Torfelsberg and all that, but I was out of the service in the 66, but I had friends at Azmera.

01:24:13.000 Okay.

01:24:14.000 And they were monitoring that ship's, uh, communications during that attack.

01:24:18.000 Yes.

01:24:19.000 And so I don't know if these recently released intercepts are showing any traffic being monitored from Esmera or not.

01:24:26.000 I don't know.

01:24:28.000 The transcript that I have is from off the Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska.

01:24:36.000 Okay.

01:24:37.000 Now talking to your friends, George, who are in your old unit, what did they say they heard?

01:24:42.000 Well, we have a meeting monthly, we used to up in Richardson, Texas, with a bunch of Army Security Agency people, and discussing it, you know, with them.

01:24:52.000 They were hearing the attack, and they were hearing sometimes both sides of the communications.

01:24:59.000 This is up on a high mountain there, close to Ethiopia.

01:25:03.000 Sure, sure.

01:25:03.000 What did they think while they were hearing all this?

01:25:05.000 They understood very quickly, within hours, that there was an attack.

01:25:05.000 What did they say?

01:25:09.000 It was a concerted attack, intentional attack, by Israel against a U.S.

01:25:14.000 Were they mad at the cover-up?

01:25:14.000 vessel.

01:25:16.000 Oh, they were mad as hell, but NSA has a memorial site, is that right, Mr. Lockwood, on NSA?

01:25:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:25:22.000 But you know what they've done to that site?

01:25:23.000 No.

01:25:24.000 They made it more inaccessible than it used to be a few years ago.

01:25:29.000 Hard to find on the NSA site than it was three or four years ago.

01:25:33.000 Not surprising.

01:25:33.000 You have to dig down into the NSA site to really find the Liberty Memorial section.

01:25:40.000 I've been after this thing for years myself.

01:25:43.000 Like, Carl Wickersworth came out years ago and I sent him a bunch of information, KTSA and San Antonio, so this has been really dear to my heart too.

01:25:53.000 Thank you so much for calling, George.

01:25:56.000 Anyway, I understand your predicament, and you being there on The Best Will I Know, it was really... George, you ought to... You really get a kick into the truth, don't you?

01:26:03.000 You ought to get Bryce Lockwood on your show.

01:26:06.000 If it's alright, I can have John at the network.

01:26:08.000 Bryce, is it okay if we give George your number?

01:26:10.000 You bet.

01:26:11.000 Yeah, well, get that to me, and then we'll have him on the show as soon as we can.

01:26:14.000 Okay, well, we'll give you the number right now.

01:26:16.000 John, please give him the number while you're busy dialing Ron Paul.

01:26:19.000 Thank you, George.

01:26:20.000 Good to hear from you.

01:26:20.000 I mean, what a small world.

01:26:22.000 He's a great guy here involved in the Freedom Movement.

01:26:22.000 I know George.

01:26:25.000 That is amazing.

01:26:29.000 That is absolutely amazing.

01:26:33.000 Alex, I thank you so much for this opportunity.

01:26:43.000 Perhaps I've aired some things that, I don't know, maybe should have been said, but I tried to tell the truth as much as I possibly could.

01:26:51.000 Well, no, sir.

01:26:52.000 I mean, you've told much of what we already have confirmed by other sources in the new developments and a few other interesting tidbits, but the bottom line, what are the defenders of the bad actions of Israel going to do now?

01:27:04.000 I mean, this is incredible.

01:27:06.000 They can't just run and hide.

01:27:09.000 I didn't realize that this would also run in the Boston Globe.

01:27:12.000 I mean, this is a quarter of the American population that have had this story for the first time in 40 years.

01:27:19.000 It's in a bunch of newspapers.

01:27:21.000 If you type USS Liberty into Google and click on News, it'll search News, and it's dozens of hits.

01:27:28.000 It is all over the newspapers.

01:27:30.000 Let me look here.

01:27:31.000 Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune, Baltimore Sun.

01:27:36.000 There's one more here that I printed out, and I only printed a few of these.

01:27:40.000 My goodness.

01:27:41.000 So this particular article by John Crescent.

01:27:45.000 John Crookson is all over the place, and a bunch of other articles have been written about that.

01:27:49.000 I'd say it's in the hundreds now, sir.

01:27:51.000 Incidentally, John Crookson is a Pulitzer Prize winner for journalism, so this is no fly-by-night author of this article.

01:27:58.000 You know, I didn't know that.

01:27:59.000 We called him up and he gave us your number, and he was real nice.

01:28:03.000 I didn't know I was talking to a Pulitzer Prize winner.

01:28:04.000 I've got a... I didn't either when you first called me.

01:28:07.000 I found out from a third party.

01:28:09.000 Actually, it was Jim Ennis, who is the author of the book, Assault on the Liberty, that informed me that...

01:28:15.000 Mr. Crutzen was a Pulitzer Prize winner.

01:28:17.000 Well, I'm going to call Crutzen back and get him on and maybe you on and get George Butler on at the same time.

01:28:22.000 God bless you and thanks for coming on, Mr. Lockwood.

01:28:24.000 Thank you so much, Alex.

01:28:25.000 I really appreciate it.

01:28:26.000 You bet.

01:28:27.000 You know, most of those men haven't lived to see the truth come out, but a lot of them have.

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01:32:40.000 It's just everybody is starting to wake up and one of the people driving that is the Ron Paul revolution.

01:32:47.000 And the doctor, the Vietnam veteran, the family man, the father, the congressman with the best voting record in modern U.S.

01:32:55.000 history, the guy that would get us out of the United Nations, the man that would abolish the Federal Reserve, the person that would put us back on to sound money principles, He is definitely the medicine this ailing country needs is Congressman Ron Paul.

01:33:10.000 And they just raised a record five plus million dollars in the last quarter dwarfing what many of the other top tier candidates made.

01:33:17.000 They're now six to one in major Las Vegas odds with a trajectory Of winning if his growth rate in the next 50 to 90 days continues.

01:33:27.000 If this is it, I want to see everybody intensify your giving.

01:33:31.000 I see yard signs all over.

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01:33:34.000 or New York, I see signs, Ron Paul signs up.

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01:33:38.000 They're all around my business where I'm based.

01:33:41.000 Congressman, we salute you, and I salute everybody that's supporting you.

01:33:45.000 This Ron Paul revolution is just absolutely going into overdrive.

01:33:51.000 Well, thank you, and we have to salute all those supporters who have endorsed these views in the Constitution.

01:33:56.000 That's what really is at stake here, and I'm so pleased to find out that our strength is that good, you know, and that there are that many people who care, so there's reason to be optimistic.

01:34:07.000 This is a lot better than you even thought it was going to be, Congressman.

01:34:10.000 What did you think on the good end of things, this campaign would end up, what, just being an educational process?

01:34:18.000 Or did you think you could win from the start?

01:34:20.000 Well, I always think there's, you know, that you can't predict the future, and therefore I never say, oh, you can't win, or I will win, so I sort of avoid the two extremes.

01:34:30.000 But I would say that it's doing much better than I had anticipated.

01:34:34.000 I was rather cynical about it all, because you and others have always said, run, run, run.

01:34:39.000 And I said, well, I don't know if our numbers are strong enough, and I don't know whether the young people will rally.

01:34:45.000 So I was too pessimistic, and there were more people who were already informed.

01:34:51.000 I'm really impressed by how many new people come in.

01:34:54.000 The new people are flocking to us, and I think this means that the young people are a lot smarter than we give them credit for.

01:35:01.000 They're realizing that we've dumped on them, and they realize, look, they're inheriting.

01:35:06.000 So I think this has all just come together, and then with radio talk shows and the Internet has just made this thing grow by leaps and bounds.

01:35:14.000 It's growing exponentially.

01:35:17.000 Though every time your name gets mentioned on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, they say, yeah, but he can't win.

01:35:23.000 Within seconds, they blurt it out like it's a talking point, Congressman.

01:35:27.000 But that seems, well, A, do you think it's a talking point?

01:35:29.000 And B, that seems to be enraging the public even more and backfiring on them.

01:35:35.000 Well, it does.

01:35:36.000 It doesn't discourage our supporters.

01:35:39.000 It sort of energizes everybody.

01:35:41.000 And now that we have proven that we could raise money, you know, they always claimed there were just a few of us out there that cared and that they were bloggers and they were manipulating the Internet.

01:35:51.000 And, well, you can't manipulate to the point where you get 35,000 new donors who average about $40 a piece.

01:35:59.000 You know, the other ones that raise a lot of money, you have to realize they get their money from those who want to buy government, you know, the special interests.

01:36:11.000 That's why they'll invest 60, 70, 80 million dollars.

01:36:14.000 where the miraculous thing about this is people are coming to us just to be free, you know, just to be left alone, to be able to keep their own money and do the necessary things like sound money and low taxes and property rights and assume responsibility for ourselves.

01:36:29.000 And that, to me, is the wonderful thing about what's happening.

01:36:34.000 If there was ever a time to pile on, if there was ever a time to rush the gates, ladies and gentlemen, Ron Paul can win the nomination.

01:36:42.000 Then people say, yeah, but there's electronic voting machines for canary.

01:36:45.000 Not in every county in about a third of the country, but still, if the poll numbers are high enough, they're not going to be able to steal elections.

01:36:53.000 I really know, intellectually, following this trajectory, that if the growth continues at this current rate, and that's what Las Vegas is saying, and they can't be wrong because they got bets being placed on it, you're going to get the Republican nomination.

01:37:07.000 Well, you know, that is a distinct possibility, but I also know that a lot of work has to be done.

01:37:14.000 We have to translate what we've done so far into actual voting in the primaries.

01:37:19.000 So, it's not smooth sailing, but it certainly is possible, and at the rate we're going, there's a very good chance.

01:37:27.000 Would you say that it's accurate to make the statement that you are definitely, that we are definitely with you in the fight?

01:37:34.000 I don't think there's any doubt about it.

01:37:36.000 I think that the group of people who are with us are growing all the time.

01:37:42.000 You know, the media always wants to ask me, what is your target?

01:37:46.000 When are you going to drop out?

01:37:47.000 Do you have to be first in New Hampshire before you'll drop out?

01:37:51.000 I said, no, I haven't even thought about things like that.

01:37:53.000 As long as we keep growing and improving and our numbers are growing and we raise the funds, you stay in there until mathematically something forces you to be excluded.

01:38:06.000 Well, by every indicator of grassroots, whether it's IP one-vote internet voting, which I think is more scientific than a lot of the, you know, Angus and Reed and Gallup-type polls, by every other indicator of grassroots, whether it's MySpace or YouTube or Meetup or Town Hall or Facebook, you are dwarfing, in almost every case, you have more members and more supporters in all those grassroots communities than all the other candidates combined with both parties!

01:38:35.000 It makes you wonder how the polling is done, because if the polling is honest, then you wonder where's the disconnect.

01:38:43.000 But maybe the polling isn't absolutely accurate, maybe they're not polling the people that are likely to vote.

01:38:49.000 But I think once we get a supporter, the percentage chance of them voting are much greater than those who are so disgruntled.

01:38:57.000 The disgruntled Democrats and the disgruntled Republicans.

01:39:01.000 I foresee a low turnout if you don't have somebody there that will really champion our cause and really want to change in direction, because I think the longer this campaign goes on, the more mellow everybody becomes.

01:39:14.000 They just mush.

01:39:15.000 They say nothing.

01:39:16.000 The Democrats get worse, and even our other Republicans are not saying that much.

01:39:21.000 They're not fiscal conservatives.

01:39:23.000 They don't want to talk about monetary policy, and there's so little said.

01:39:28.000 So for that reason, I think The people get more disgusted than those people who have finally figured it out that we're going in the wrong direction.

01:39:34.000 I think they're coming to our campaign.

01:39:37.000 Congressman, I said this...

01:39:39.000 Six, seven months ago when you first announced, it was common sense to me, but now the oddsmakers have said it, a lot of political analysts have said it, the Republicans really aren't running against Hillary.

01:39:48.000 They know the baton's being passed.

01:39:50.000 We've never seen a discrepancy where we've got, in any election, where one campaign has got double what the other party does.

01:39:57.000 Hillary's got that now. 1.00

01:39:58.000 Clearly, the establishment's saying this is a non-campaign, but then all the oddsmakers and experts are saying, but Ron Paul, he could beat Hillary.

01:40:07.000 And that's what Vegas is saying.

01:40:08.000 They're saying that if you, they've been always right in the past, could get the nomination, you would beat her because you're anti-war and you're pro-Second Amendment and you're pro-control the borders.

01:40:19.000 You've got the liberals and conservatives and libertarians supporting you.

01:40:23.000 Why wouldn't any Republican get behind you knowing that only Ron Paul can beat Hillary Clinton? 0.78

01:40:29.000 You know, you wonder about that because now the move is right now is to try to close the primaries.

01:40:34.000 Do you think they're sincere when they say they want to have a big tent and invite new people in?

01:40:39.000 They can invite a lot of new people in, but they don't want constitutionalists evidently, because they want to make it tough to vote in a Republican primary.

01:40:46.000 So that doesn't add up.

01:40:47.000 It just sort of confirms the fact that, you know, the control of this whole system has been one party, so to speak.

01:40:56.000 You know, it's one group of people who have controlled both parties.

01:40:59.000 And right now I think the people are getting disgusted with it, and they're starting to wake up.

01:41:03.000 Congressman, do you think that they're accelerating?

01:41:05.000 Again, we're talking to Congressman Ron Paul, running for president and gaining steam to get the win for the nomination as Republican here and defeat Hillary.

01:41:16.000 Do you think that they're trying to speed up the primaries and bring them in earlier as an attempt to try to block you and other populist candidates?

01:41:27.000 I don't think it's just me, because that has been started for a while.

01:41:31.000 But I think, generally speaking, the two major parties, the leadership, do not want competition.

01:41:37.000 This is the reason third parties have never survived very well, because it's hard to get on ballots, they won't let you in the debates.

01:41:43.000 And now, they're speeding this up, so if you're a grassroots-type candidate, they don't want to give you much time to get traction.

01:41:50.000 But they didn't realize that you can get traction some other way, such as through the internet and grassroots campaigning.

01:41:59.000 So I think that's a bit of a secret weapon that's interfering with their plans.

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01:42:29.000 Congressman, do you think the Republican Party is starting to panic because they have been intensifying their attacks on you?

01:42:35.000 Do you think they're starting to get concerned?

01:42:37.000 They're also trying to change their rhetoric a little bit more, it seems, towards a more constitutionalist, freedom-based Yeah, I think they've already adapted.

01:42:47.000 I don't know whether they've panicked, but I think they're at least showing some concern, where at first, you know, it was totally ignoring what we were doing.

01:42:57.000 And then, of course, they made fun of it.

01:43:01.000 And now I think the challenges are much tougher, and I think we can expect it to get much rougher as time goes on.

01:43:10.000 Only time is going to tell, but I think we should all be thankful that the ideas of liberty are alive and well in this country, much more so than I ever dreamed, so I'm very pleased.

01:43:19.000 I want to spend the six minutes we've got left with you, and I want you to know, Congressman, I know how tiring it is to do five, six, seven, eight interviews a day.

01:43:27.000 I have no idea how hard it is to do the things you're doing, and at 72, good thing you're in such good shape.

01:43:32.000 So I appreciate the time, and I know the listeners do, and we thank you because we are your base here, as you know.

01:43:37.000 The economy, I mean, it's like you're a prophet, but you've been saying this for 25 years.

01:43:43.000 Now everything you've talked about is coming home to roost.

01:43:45.000 The dollar plunging in value, the Federal Reserve making announcements that the dollar is going to go down, knowing it would drive it down further.

01:43:54.000 A, does that help your campaign that everything you've talked about, the hidden inflation tax, is now becoming revealed and then B it looks to me like the the central banks are trying to kill the dollar cutting interest rates bad mouthing the dollar saying the euro is going to be be preeminent that's the second question yeah I think it's going to help a whole lot Like you say, I've been talking about that for a long time and I think it's so important because the monetary issue is pervasive.

01:44:23.000 It involves every single transaction we have, you know, whether it's pricing of labor or pricing of goods and services, that's how key it is.

01:44:31.000 Then when people understand how the Fed screws up the economy and causes all the all the bubbles and all the changes that have to come from that, the collapsing of the bubble.

01:44:43.000 No, I'm getting a lot more calls even on the business stations, and that, of course, will be the most challenging because once they know the American people have awakened to the con game that's been going on, I think those who run the banking and monetary system aren't I think those who run the banking and monetary system aren't going to be too happy, nor will the people who You know, the people in the military-industrial complex and now in the medical-industrial complex, they get to use that money first.

01:45:11.000 They depend on this deficit financing.

01:45:14.000 So I suspect that we're going to be talking a lot more about this, because although the dollar's down sharply right now, The secondary effects of rising interest rates and also the cost of living going down here, that's yet to come, so in the next 12 months I think things are going to get a lot worse.

01:45:32.000 That was my next question.

01:45:35.000 Most of the experts who are in the constitutional line of thinking, or the von Mises of you, are saying middle of next year is when the really bad numbers and the debt really starts piling up.

01:45:44.000 What do you see happening?

01:45:45.000 You say 12 months?

01:45:46.000 Well, and that's one thing that Austrian economics teaches is that you shouldn't be so bold as to say in three months this is going to happen because I made a calculation.

01:45:55.000 Because there's a human element involved.

01:45:57.000 There are very many objective facts, like when you print money the value goes down, but that doesn't mean that exactly tomorrow the people will know the value of the money is down.

01:46:06.000 It takes time, and people panic, and there's emotions involved, and we don't know what kind of international event that might precipitate a crisis.

01:46:14.000 You know, if Bush is foolish enough to go and start bombing Iran, that might precipitate such a crisis as oil going to $200 a barrel.

01:46:24.000 Well, we've already seen a massive decline in value. 0.97

01:46:26.000 I mean, there is the prediction come true there.

01:46:28.000 So those are the kind of events you can't predict.

01:46:31.000 So that's why we know it's coming.

01:46:33.000 Could easily come in six months.

01:46:35.000 Could be a year and it could be even longer.

01:46:37.000 But we know we're destined to have these problems come and hit us.

01:46:40.000 - Well, we've already seen a massive decline in value.

01:46:43.000 I mean, there is the prediction come through there.

01:46:46.000 How far just in general gauging do you think it's gonna go down? - Well, that's hard to say because it depends on what the reaction is.

01:46:55.000 If they continue to do exactly what we're doing, it's going to go to zero.

01:46:57.000 We're going to have runaway inflation.

01:47:00.000 All paper currencies eventually self-destruct and they're ruined.

01:47:03.000 And we're in uncharted waters right now.

01:47:06.000 This is the first time in the history of man that you've had no solid currencies around the world.

01:47:12.000 And this has been going on for 35 years.

01:47:15.000 So we don't know how this is going to play out.

01:47:18.000 But in the past, most governments usually had to stop, start over again, develop a new currency, put some trust behind it, put some backing to the currency, and start over.

01:47:29.000 In this case, it's going to be more difficult, because it's going to be a worldwide crisis, and that's why people who own things are going to be better off than those people who own dollars.

01:47:39.000 Well, Joseph Stiglitz, Chief Economist, World Bank, said the same thing as you're saying last year.

01:47:43.000 And he said, we're going to have a global depression unless they change things.

01:47:46.000 And I said, well, are they changing?

01:47:47.000 He said, no, they're accelerating.

01:47:50.000 And that's what I see now.

01:47:52.000 The establishment really seems to think they can just set up a police state and then let everybody know they've been robbed.

01:47:58.000 And then if anybody complains, they'll just shoot us in the streets.

01:48:01.000 Well, hopefully it doesn't get that bad, but they're going to use the fear factor.

01:48:05.000 You know, look at what they do about the fear of these third world nations going to bomb us and we have to invade them. 1.00

01:48:10.000 The fear of another 9-11 attack, so therefore you give up all your civil liberties.

01:48:14.000 And they do that in economics, too.

01:48:16.000 There's this tremendous fear and a breakdown.

01:48:19.000 They're not going to admit the truth.

01:48:20.000 They're going to say, you know, markets don't work.

01:48:22.000 What we need is somebody to take care of us.

01:48:25.000 And what we have to fight for is to make sure that people won't give up their liberties.

01:48:29.000 Exactly.

01:48:30.000 So you're saying they could use the financial crisis, then pose as saviors and give us even more government as a fix.

01:48:36.000 Oh, I think they will.

01:48:37.000 They've done that.

01:48:38.000 Look, it's really started wholesale, you know, in the Depression.

01:48:41.000 That was the whole thing.

01:48:42.000 you know, scare people to death. 0.99

01:48:43.000 Instead of blaming the Federal Reserve for the Depression and the financial bubble of the 20s, they said, well, if capitalism failed, it was that stupid gold standard, therefore we have to have government welfare. 0.98

01:48:54.000 Of course, everything they did prolonged the Depression. 0.89

01:48:57.000 The Depression lasted 15 months, 15 years.

01:49:00.000 We've only got 30 seconds left.

01:49:00.000 Exactly.

01:49:02.000 You confronted Bernanke a few weeks ago, and he had the nerve of saying that we had 2% inflation.

01:49:07.000 Is that a lie?

01:49:08.000 Well, according to him, it's not a lie.

01:49:11.000 And according to the way they measure it, they don't think it's a lie, but according to the facts, it's a lie because they're, of course, inflating the money supply.

01:49:18.000 They won't even tell us they're inflating the currency by 13% if you look at M3, and even the price inflation, which is not the actual inflation.

01:49:27.000 If you go by the old CPI, it's going up 8 or 10%, so he's certainly deceiving us.

01:49:34.000 Congressman, we salute you.

01:49:35.000 We pray for you and Carol and your whole family.

01:49:37.000 God bless you.

01:49:38.000 Go with God.

01:49:39.000 Thanks a lot.

01:49:40.000 Thank you.

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01:53:11.000 Can you imagine what a crazy person I looked like with a big black Stetson and a Megadeth t-shirt cut off?

01:53:20.000 And stilt-toe boots?

01:53:23.000 Anyways, he's going to be joining us, and the reason he's joining us, coming up in about 35 minutes, is because he has got a new album out, and the whole thing is absolutely dead-on anti-New World Order.

01:53:38.000 And I remember, being about 15, while we were driving around doing donuts in fields in the middle of nowhere, like a bunch of heathen,

01:53:48.000 Listen to the Megadeth lyrics and it wasn't like other heavy metal stuff devil this devil that wasn't about that It was about evil world government evil New World Order I guess it was kind of subliminally telling me it was evil Back before I even woke up a few years later to the New World Order I remember getting the lyrics out of the out of the CD case CDs had just come out and then in reading, you know so so this this new one and is just right out in the open anti-New World Order.

01:54:16.000 And everybody's kind of on the bandwagon now, which is good.

01:54:19.000 But see, Dave Mustaine was not on the anti-New World Order bandwagon, what, 16, 17 years ago.

01:54:29.000 Now, that said, he is notoriously, when I've heard, rude and angry.

01:54:35.000 So we'll see if he yells at me or whatever when he's coming up in 35 minutes or even pops in on the show.

01:54:42.000 But reportedly he knows about the show, knows other shows.

01:54:44.000 And he's on the road right now, so we'll see if he's there.

01:54:47.000 Thank you.

01:54:49.000 It turned out Ron Paul thought he was on earlier today than he was, but that's how it always is with these guys that are really busy.

01:54:54.000 Frankly, it's the same way getting me on a radio show now.

01:54:56.000 It gets harder and harder.

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01:55:01.000 I'm not like Ron Paul and Dave Mustaine.

01:55:03.000 I've just stopped doing them, most of them.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 I'm not even going to tell you the stack of important news I have.

01:58:18.000 I'll just mention some of it.

01:58:20.000 It's all up on the website.

01:58:21.000 It's coming up here in about 15 minutes.

01:58:22.000 Some of you are scheduled to have the lead singer, the founder, the songwriter, the head honcho at Megadeth.

01:58:29.000 He was also, of course, with Metallica in their first days.

01:58:32.000 Dave Mustaine popping in, because he's total anti-New World Order now.

01:58:37.000 We'll get his take on all of it.

01:58:39.000 Huge interview earlier with Congressman Ron Paul.

01:58:42.000 I want to comment on some of the things he said there, too, before this hour ends.

01:58:46.000 And, of course, the Browns have been grabbed with people posing as patriots around them.

01:58:50.000 That wasn't hard to guess that was going to happen.

01:58:51.000 I predicted it.

01:58:52.000 That was like predicting the sun will come up tomorrow, though.

01:58:54.000 Again, not a very hard prediction.

01:58:57.000 And we also had huge revelations on the U.S.' 's liberty in the first and second hour.

01:59:02.000 Huge revelations.

01:59:04.000 That'll all start retransmitting by the way when the show ends in one hour.

01:59:07.000 If you missed any of it on your local AM or FM dial, wonderful folks, or on the global shortwave, or on the internet, you can just go to InfoWars.com to MyStreams, where I restream the show 21 hours a day after the live show.

01:59:20.000 In this case, it'll be for two days until I'm back live this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

01:59:24.000 Central.

01:59:25.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Adam in Minnesota, then Doug and others.

01:59:29.000 Adam, you're on the air.

01:59:30.000 Yeah, hey, how you doing?

01:59:32.000 Yeah, I love your show, man.

01:59:32.000 Good!

01:59:34.000 I'm glad I came across you.

01:59:35.000 I first discovered you about three years ago, and it's been a wake-up for me.

01:59:40.000 Well, I love the show, too.

01:59:41.000 We have the USS Liberty revelations, the declassified U.S.

01:59:41.000 It's a humdinger.

01:59:45.000 government interceptions, the Israelis knowing it was a U.S.

01:59:47.000 ship, Ron Paul dropping bombshell after bombshell, and the Brown revelations, and the Mustang, if he shows up in 30 minutes.

01:59:56.000 Well, on Dave Mustaine, I find it amazing that you have him on, because like you, I grew up listening to him, and I always kind of knew there was something different about him.

02:00:05.000 It wasn't devil, devil, devil, yeah.

02:00:07.000 Yeah, he had something more substance to what he was singing, but it's interesting.

02:00:12.000 A year and a half ago, I wrote an article for the American Chronicle, an online magazine, and it got published.

02:00:19.000 The name of the article is Dependent on Lies.

02:00:22.000 And I open it quoting Dave Mustaine.

02:00:24.000 He has a line from a song.

02:00:26.000 The song is Trust.

02:00:27.000 It says, uh, we lie to each other so much that nothing we trust.

02:00:31.000 And I, I extrapolated on that and said, you know, that's like our society, man.

02:00:34.000 We've been lying to one another so much that we don't know what to trust in anymore.

02:00:40.000 And I just thought, you know, it's phenomenal that you have Dave Mustaine on and, uh, you know.

02:00:44.000 Well, see, I don't count my chickens until they're hatched.

02:00:48.000 Because he's on the road, but he'll definitely end up being on today, if not Monday.

02:00:52.000 I mean, it's all confirmed.

02:00:53.000 We just talked to his people again, but, you know, you talk to some bug-eyed roadie or something wrong, but we'll see if he's on in 25 minutes.

02:01:00.000 We wait, don't we?

02:01:02.000 Yeah, well, I look forward to hearing what he's got to say and it's nice to know that the tide is turning and, you know, so many people are waking up to the New World Order.

02:01:08.000 Well, I want to be clear though.

02:01:09.000 He didn't wake up now.

02:01:11.000 I remember reading the lyrics and I started thinking maybe this is what woke me up and my dad knew about it but he never pushed it on me.

02:01:11.000 Yeah.

02:01:17.000 I mean, I was like 14 years old.

02:01:18.000 I remember reading the lyrics about the UN and world government and staged wars and how they want to kill everybody.

02:01:25.000 I mean, Dave Mustaine, he writes those songs.

02:01:27.000 I guess he just knew it all then.

02:01:30.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:01:31.000 Well, I guess what is more important is the fact that being that upfront, knowing that he has that large of a fan base, it's going to just bring that many more people, you know, into the awareness of what's happening.

02:01:43.000 Well, I've got the new album right here, the new CD.

02:01:46.000 It's excellent for those that like that type of music.

02:01:50.000 But before he gets on, I wanted to read through some of his lyrics here.

02:01:58.000 Because it's amazing.

02:02:00.000 But the new one is United Abominations. 0.97

02:02:06.000 And it shows the United Nations on fire, blowing up, and basically the Antichrist on the cover.

02:02:16.000 So, it's pretty powerful.

02:02:16.000 Yeah.

02:02:18.000 Alright, I appreciate your call.

02:02:20.000 Good to hear from you.

02:02:21.000 Doug and others, your calls are straight ahead.

02:02:23.000 By the way, we're going to play a little bit of a Megadeth song here in a minute.

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02:05:43.000 Within striking distance from ground zero, it's a smoldering international cauldron.

02:06:01.000 The United Abominations, as it were, were born to prevent wars, it froze in the face of disaster, and stood silent while heroization took hostage the world. 0.99

02:06:11.000 In a pirate, an apocracy, the U.N. ignores sex crimes by its full will, and evil terrorism so immediately it's failed, and the equalization is where our so-called friends get the damnits in the back, and we pay 22% of their camp to host our enemies here at home, and fans that are some countries otherwise known as a goddamn and we pay 22% of their camp to host our enemies here at home, and fans that are some countries otherwise known as a goddamn enemy, and the people of the community living in Manhattan, while their children are certain as a prostitute, and as a complete southern 0.97

02:06:40.000 Formerly in their kitchen, down hunted by a well-ful moon, young down the whole night before, lost a lot of their land, there's a blood on their hands.

02:06:53.000 I know you're one, they promise to tell the truth, without leaving a finger dress, they won't lose the win, one way or another, so this is a hot, just will be out in just a little bit more.

02:07:10.000 If you had it right, can't do any more heart than you are right now, if you can, you're not just another mushroom cloud, another broken gun, The credit is real, the love that we have for So tell me the truth I don't like what they've done It's payback time There's a United Abomination

02:07:33.000 Alright That's a little bit of United Abominations No one do it. 0.99

02:07:51.000 And again, back when I was a teenager, I remember the lyrics.

02:07:55.000 It was always anti-UN, anti-New World Order.

02:07:59.000 So I just want to ask him how he came to so many years ago.

02:08:04.000 I mean, now you've got a lot of people from pop music to country to you name it singing about this type of stuff.

02:08:11.000 And I always wondered where Metallica's influences are, because they've got some songs that are anti-New World Order and anti-corrupt corpse systems and some of their music.

02:08:19.000 I mean, did that come from Dave Mustaine?

02:08:22.000 We'll see.

02:08:22.000 Or does he see the whole picture?

02:08:23.000 Does he only see part of the picture?

02:08:26.000 But he talks about UN sex crimes.

02:08:30.000 He talks about all the criminal things that they're involved in, and like every song, In here, in this new album, is on similar subject.

02:08:45.000 It says, ethnic cleansing with no defending. 0.64

02:08:49.000 These acts of genocide, a fatal ending with no surrendering to cover up the crimes and lie.

02:08:55.000 Smart bombs, precision guided armament, a more sophisticated way to end up dead, still we search.

02:09:04.000 And invent such intelligent weapons that kill each other, like the Gears of War.

02:09:09.000 Hoorah! 1.00

02:09:11.000 And it just goes on.

02:09:12.000 Let's talk about the United Nations.

02:09:17.000 We'll see how that goes.

02:09:17.000 So that's coming up.

02:09:18.000 I've got a lot of other news here, and a lot of phone calls, obviously, that we need to go to.

02:09:24.000 Let's talk to Doug in Tennessee, then Rita and others.

02:09:27.000 Go ahead, Doug.

02:09:28.000 Sir, it's a pleasure to talk to you.

02:09:32.000 It's a pleasure to talk to you.

02:09:33.000 What's on your mind?

02:09:34.000 Well, I had a couple things, Alex.

02:09:36.000 First of all, I want everyone to know about H.R.

02:09:39.000 It's a bill that has 216 co-sponsors in the House of Representatives, and it requires a paper trail in federal elections.

02:09:39.000 811.

02:09:48.000 This is a vital bill, and I urge everyone to contact their local congressman.

02:09:52.000 My understanding is that there had been a vote scheduled and it had been postponed.

02:10:00.000 I can't really get a straight answer from Pelosi's office or Steny Hoyer's office as to why the vote has been postponed, but people need to call them and demand an up or down vote on this to have a paper trail in federal elections.

02:10:16.000 That's HR 811.

02:10:19.000 And I also wanted to say, Alex, that my wife and I are Deeply involved in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:10:25.000 We've discovered that here in Knoxville, with the other UT, the University of Tennessee, has what they call a free speech zone.

02:10:35.000 Terrible phrase, but Nevertheless, we've taken advantage of the University of Tennessee.

02:10:42.000 Yeah, the whole university is a free-speak zone.

02:10:45.000 And that's the way they've always been.

02:10:45.000 That's right.

02:10:46.000 And now they say, no, there's a place down behind campus where nobody can see you.

02:10:50.000 Or at first it's a good place, the next year it'll be a bad place, the next year it'll be off campus.

02:10:55.000 You can't put up with those free-speak zones.

02:10:57.000 Well, at the University of Tennessee, they have a real good one because it's right at the library entrance leading into a greenway.

02:11:05.000 I know, but see, they do that at first, then they move it to a bad place.

02:11:08.000 I mean, I'm not debating you on that.

02:11:09.000 I know you agree.

02:11:10.000 I'm just saying that's how they work.

02:11:12.000 Yeah, well, you're right.

02:11:14.000 The whole nation is a free speech zone, and we need to assert our rights.

02:11:17.000 We've set up our 9-11 truth table there.

02:11:20.000 We've handed out hundreds of DVDs and fact sheets to people.

02:11:24.000 We also, just two days ago, we set up at the Great Smoky Mountain National Park, the main visitor center there.

02:11:32.000 And I just want people to know that people are hungry for this information.

02:11:36.000 People who you wouldn't expect came up to our table.

02:11:40.000 People who are of all ages, all socioeconomic groups, hungry for this information.

02:11:48.000 We have a DVD duplicator and we can crank out about 10 DVDs an hour and we gave out over 100 DVDs in just about 6 hours.

02:11:58.000 Well good job my friend, keep it up, I appreciate your call.

02:12:02.000 Let's talk to Rita in Texas. 1.00

02:12:03.000 Rita, you're on the air.

02:12:07.000 Hello.

02:12:08.000 Hi, this is Rita Jones and I'm a songwriter.

02:12:11.000 Hey Rita, how you doing?

02:12:12.000 I'm fine.

02:12:13.000 I wrote so long Texas Hello Mexico that I understand you're playing and I appreciate that.

02:12:17.000 You bet.

02:12:17.000 We play little bits and pieces of that.

02:12:20.000 Thank you for writing it.

02:12:21.000 Well, I appreciate that.

02:12:22.000 I just wanted to let you know that we have a CD called Life's Too Short Not to Live in Texas by Johnny Tex and the Texicans.

02:12:29.000 And we have a Trans-Texas Quarter Blues.

02:12:32.000 We have There Ain't No Green in My Flag, Son, which deals basically with what happened in Reno when the guy took the flag down.

02:12:38.000 I wrote Ron Paul's campaign song, Vote Yes for Dr. No.

02:12:45.000 We just got a lot of good things going on.

02:12:47.000 Our website is www.johnnytex.com.

02:12:52.000 We just wanted to thank you for applying us.

02:12:54.000 It means a lot to us.

02:12:56.000 Well thank you!

02:12:57.000 No, months and months ago we heard that song and then Lou Dobbs picked it up and I know he's been playing it.

02:13:03.000 And I think when we first got it we mentioned who'd done it.

02:13:05.000 The time, a month later I hear it playing, I forget, yeah it was Johnny, Tex, and the Texicans, right?

02:13:10.000 Yes sir.

02:13:11.000 And you guys ought to send me a CD of that and if it's okay I'll play more clips.

02:13:16.000 I certainly will!

02:13:17.000 Where do I send it?

02:13:18.000 I didn't know that there was a whole CD of it.

02:13:21.000 Maybe I'll even carry it or something.

02:13:22.000 Oh that's great!

02:13:23.000 We love that!

02:13:24.000 Where do I send it?

02:13:26.000 There's an address on InfoWars.com if you forget it, but it's 3001 South Lamar Suite 100, Austin, TX 78704.

02:13:35.000 Well I can do that and we just really appreciate you playing us and keep up the good work.

02:13:44.000 Well, thank you.

02:13:45.000 No, I mean, it's going to be music, it's going to be films, it's going to be all of us together that are going to defeat this New World Order.

02:13:51.000 Plug that website again. 0.98

02:13:53.000 Trans-Texas, www.johnnytex.com.

02:13:57.000 Trans-Texas Quarter Blues is the bumper song on the credits roll in William H. Molina's It's an award-winning documentary called Truth Be Told about the transsexual squirter blues.

02:14:11.000 Oh, good.

02:14:12.000 I wasn't aware of that film.

02:14:13.000 I think I've heard of it.

02:14:14.000 I haven't seen it yet.

02:14:16.000 You need to see it.

02:14:16.000 It's awesome.

02:14:17.000 I know.

02:14:17.000 There's a lot of stuff I need to see.

02:14:19.000 Believe me, I wish I had time to see it all.

02:14:22.000 Okay.

02:14:22.000 Well, thank you so much for calling, Rita.

02:14:25.000 Good to hear from you.

02:14:26.000 Oh, by the way, I've done two hours and 17 minutes of broadcast today, and I haven't even plugged this yet.

02:14:34.000 Endgame went on sale last night.

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02:14:39.000 And we have them.

02:14:40.000 We have them right here in the office, but I can't ship them out until November 1st via my agreement with the distributor, who's going to put them in stores.

02:14:47.000 And most stores don't want to be available until, what, November 13th or 14th.

02:14:52.000 But you put your orders in now.

02:14:54.000 We'll package them up.

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02:14:57.000 Wink, wink, maybe even earlier.

02:15:00.000 And you can be able to watch it online at PrisonPlanet.tv or at InGameTheMovie.com or WhatIsTheInGame.com.

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02:16:01.000 Some people have the nerve to sell my videos online for like a dollar apiece, which would bankrupt me, and then even try to buy ads on Google Video on my site.

02:16:10.000 No.

02:16:11.000 We can't let people do that, folks.

02:16:12.000 You can't do that.

02:16:14.000 But we want you to make copies of them for non-profit educational purposes.

02:16:20.000 I mean, in the past, I'd even let people get away with almost anything, and now I can't pay my employees.

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02:22:06.000 Blonte, Alex, thank you for this opportunity to be heard by your patriot audience.

02:22:14.000 I just knew too much so that made me crazy Kevin in Boston, you're on the air.

02:22:25.000 Welcome.

02:22:26.000 Lonte, Alex, thank you for this opportunity to be heard by your Patriot audience.

02:22:30.000 It's an honor.

02:22:32.000 I was one of the two to 400 attendees at the 7-14-07 concert at Ed Brown's, and I knew the risks involved, and I got an idea that I think you'll like.

02:22:43.000 I'd like to ask that the die-hard Patriots listening honor the stand made by the Browns by doing two things.

02:22:50.000 One, by pledging to try to take on the personal sacrifice of making a donation of $240 to the Ron Paul campaign over the next three months.

02:22:58.000 That's $80 a month or $20 a week.

02:23:01.000 And it will give Ron Paul his 12 million goal for the fourth quarter.

02:23:05.000 And the second thing I'd like to ask everybody to do is, the second it's available, get out and get some copies of Endgame and really pump this out.

02:23:15.000 I just watched the trailer and I'm excited about what you've put together.

02:23:18.000 And I'm excited about this show today.

02:23:20.000 Get Ron Paul on.

02:23:22.000 The Democratic leadership has failed their following.

02:23:25.000 They're a war party now.

02:23:27.000 Hillary and Obama are war candidates.

02:23:30.000 And I've switched parties, and I'm gun host for Ron Paul, and he's the only leadership that's out there that's representing the will of the American people.

02:23:39.000 Well, God bless you, my friend.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, it's too bad about the Browns and we'll watch as things develop, but to those that don't know, they got nabbed last night by federal marshals posing as patriots.

02:23:50.000 Thank you, Alex, and keep up the great work.

02:23:52.000 Thank you for the call, Kevin.

02:23:54.000 Scott in Arizona.

02:23:55.000 You're on the air.

02:23:56.000 Hey, Alex.

02:23:57.000 How are you doing, man?

02:23:58.000 Good.

02:23:59.000 Hey, we got a lot going on down here, as you can see in the headlines, with the woman in the airport and the dirty bomb that they're going to be setting off.

02:24:07.000 I was wondering if you could give some insight about what that really is about.

02:24:12.000 Well, I mean, I don't know that specifically the government's going to shut off a dirty bomb, but I mean, I know they've hyped that up, so they can certainly do that.

02:24:19.000 They're setting it off next week at the 101 and the 51 in our freeway system down here.

02:24:26.000 It's not a real dirty bomb, though.

02:24:29.000 No, I know that, but I'm just wondering what's behind all of this.

02:24:31.000 You're talking about one of the myriad terror drills?

02:24:33.000 Well, that's part of psychologically conditioning people, because when they see drills, it has the same effect as that terrorism is real.

02:24:40.000 So they have to have thousands of drills to convince people psychologically that terrorism is a real threat and not manufactured.

02:24:49.000 Okay, I just wanted your opinion on that.

02:24:53.000 And then you wanted my take on something else?

02:24:56.000 Oh, just, uh, you know, the thing in the airport.

02:24:59.000 I mean, it sounds like... Well, I mean, clearly, they're trying to show video from a distance of them dragging around, and, you know, they first jump on her and do all that.

02:25:05.000 She's clearly alive, and then forensics experts have said she couldn't choke herself in her handcuffs. 1.00

02:25:10.000 I've said 90% chance they beat her to death in the cell, and that's what experts on television are saying.

02:25:16.000 I don't know if that's the case, but 10% chance that magical things happened and Tweety Bird killed her. 0.85

02:25:22.000 But we've learned that she was supposedly going for drug treatment, so she could have had a heart attack.

02:25:27.000 She was old enough for that to happen.

02:25:29.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:25:30.000 It just shows that stuff like this didn't used to happen.

02:25:35.000 And people say, well, it's because of terrorism.

02:25:37.000 Well, it's because they staged the stuff.

02:25:39.000 I appreciate your call.

02:25:40.000 Let me jam one more in here before we end this segment.

02:25:43.000 Jay in Tennessee, you're on the air.

02:25:45.000 Hey, what's up Alex?

02:25:47.000 Hey listen, I'm a college student and I attend a large state university that's near here in Kentucky.

02:25:55.000 And we've had a lot of interesting reaction on campus, giving out your videos and DVDs and whatnot.

02:26:04.000 And we've got a lot of people involved.

02:26:06.000 We've got a Ron Paul movement on campus going now.

02:26:09.000 And listen, I wanted to tell you, I came across a book.

02:26:13.000 I'm sure you're aware of it.

02:26:15.000 It's by Peter Horowitz and David Colliers.

02:26:18.000 It's a biography of the Rockefellers.

02:26:20.000 You can get it on Amazon.

02:26:22.000 It's really cheap.

02:26:23.000 It's like a couple dollars.

02:26:25.000 But this book, although it's very lengthy, it's actually a pro-Rockefeller bio, the whole family.

02:26:33.000 And throughout this book, there's basically an admission of every possible nefarious practice that you would think the Rockefellers are involved in.

02:26:42.000 But they have excuses for each area.

02:26:45.000 Yeah, but it's good because, you know, this is not a, you know, conspiracy writer's expert.

02:26:49.000 No, this is an authorized biography of the family, for the family.

02:26:53.000 And yes, I have read it.

02:26:56.000 I scanned through it.

02:26:57.000 I've used the bibliography, the index, to look for key things in it.

02:27:00.000 And yeah, they're just right out in the open.

02:27:02.000 Yeah, I thought it was really interesting.

02:27:04.000 He talks about, uh, Nelson talks about the, uh, Bohemian Grove, uh, You know what you've got to do?

02:27:12.000 I've got a guest coming up, but you've got to write me a story about your review of that book, and we'd post it on PrisonPlanet.com, or call me back Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

02:27:20.000 or next Monday, and I'll put you ahead of the line because I want to discuss that book.

02:27:25.000 I've got it around here somewhere.

02:27:26.000 We'll be right back with our big guest.

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02:31:24.000 The quiet war can't be good with silent weapons.

02:31:29.000 A mixture of slavery and the pain the people bore. 1.00

02:31:34.000 It's stupid, no one was born to take me around. 1.00

02:31:39.000 Did you hear that? 1.00

02:31:43.000 Norvos Ordom Seclarum.

02:31:45.000 Murphy's Law.

02:31:46.000 Every time I have a big guest on there's problems.

02:31:49.000 We just had them on the line and then the line broke up and dropped off.

02:31:54.000 And so we're trying to get them on the line right now.

02:31:57.000 C'est la vie.

02:31:58.000 But the good news is, is that more and more people are waking up to the New World Order and Megadeth's new album is just jam-packed.

02:32:06.000 With pro-freedom, anti-New World Order messages.

02:32:08.000 You just heard them.

02:32:09.000 Norvos Ordo Seclarum.

02:32:11.000 New World Order.

02:32:14.000 And it's just incredible the things that are happening in this country and worldwide.

02:32:19.000 I mean, Ron Paul raised almost six million dollars.

02:32:22.000 Five and a half plus million dollars in the last quarter.

02:32:25.000 And Mitt Romney raised like three million.

02:32:28.000 Ron Paul has more MySpace and Meetup Friends than all the Republican candidates and many of the Democratic candidates combined, but the media still says that he's not a first-tier candidate?

02:32:43.000 Think about it.

02:32:45.000 Think about how much momentum the Freedom and Liberty and Anti-New World Order movement has got.

02:32:52.000 And more and more people are waking up, more and more people are getting involved every single day.

02:33:02.000 across the world.

02:33:04.000 And so there's a lot of bad things happening.

02:33:06.000 There's a lot of things happening that are scary.

02:33:09.000 There's a lot of things happening that are bad, but at the same time, there's a lot of things happening that are good.

02:33:15.000 In fact, I forgot to tell you, John, I want to play the new in-game trailer one more time.

02:33:21.000 If you have the new in-game trailer, okay, we'll play that at the end Remind me to do that, because Endgame shows what the globalists are trying to set up, why they finance terrorism, why they're setting up this world government, why they see human beings as something that need to be exterminated.

02:33:37.000 But we do have our guest, Dave Mustaine, and Dave Mustaine, of course, is a legendary Heavy metal, rock and roll, guitarist, lead singer, writer.

02:33:48.000 And I know, going back to when I was like 14, 15 years old, running around Wild and Dallas, listening to Megadeth was one of my favorite bands.

02:33:59.000 I don't know if Dave even wants to hear this, but I liked them a lot more than I liked Metallica.

02:34:05.000 And I remember the lyrics were all about corruption in government, the UN, world government, new world order.

02:34:11.000 And now we see so many big artists, whether they be country or rock and roll or heavy metal or techno, singing about this.

02:34:19.000 But I've got to say, Dave Mustaine was doing this 20 years ago.

02:34:25.000 And sir, it's great to have you on with us.

02:34:27.000 Oh, thank you.

02:34:29.000 Really, a few weeks ago I had a chance to hear your new album and got it.

02:34:33.000 We were listening to it around the office and I said, man, that's even more powerful than stuff 15, 20 years ago.

02:34:38.000 Can you tell us basically what the drive was or what fired you up to produce this new album, Megadeth, United Abominations?

02:34:50.000 Of course, you know, traveling around the world you get to see a lot of other countries.

02:34:54.000 You get to see the dynamic between, actually the dichotomy between what we believe is freedom and what other people believe is freedom.

02:35:02.000 A couple days ago, I was in Hampton Beach at a place and the DJ for one of the radio stations on the FM dial had said something, let's give it up for our troops and I heard somebody boo and I was so pissed.

02:35:16.000 I went out onto the stage and I said, I'm listening to you guys cheer and blah, blah, blah because my speaking voice on stage is a little different from what I'm talking normally.

02:35:26.000 And I said, you know, there's two words I don't say anywhere.

02:35:28.000 There's the N-word and the C-word, but I've got to break rank right now.

02:35:32.000 You that booed our troops are a, you know, the C-word, whatever.

02:35:34.000 I don't want to be disrespectful on your station.

02:35:37.000 And everybody cheered, and I said, you know, the thing that makes me sick is that you wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for these people.

02:35:43.000 Whether we're there or not, it doesn't matter.

02:35:45.000 It's not their choice.

02:35:46.000 They're there.

02:35:47.000 It's been like this since the beginning of our country, having soldiers that have to go to war.

02:35:53.000 you know and then nothing happened I didn't have to get up on my soapbox again we've been having fun shows and last night again I dedicated to soccer I said okay this next time is Gears of War is dedicated to our troops and did some guys did it again in Orlando right and I'm thinking well okay I guess then Orlando is going to get sacrificed if any missile needs to be steered into a city that's going to have to be given up because of you know collateral damage

02:36:21.000 Go to Orlando and Hampton Beach first, okay?

02:36:23.000 Because there's a lot of other people in the country that... Well, Dave, let me ask you this.

02:36:28.000 Because it is complex lyrics and going back to some of the first albums you put out right through I mean I remember having a t-shirt for peace sells but who's buying because I want to see you guys I think at reunion arena or something and there are a bunch of other bands opening up for you and it had somebody

02:36:44.000 in a business suit with a, you know, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil on the front with the United Nations in the background with, like, you know, jets flying over and Armageddon and lyrics like Norvos Ordo Seclorum.

02:36:59.000 I mean, can you give us your view on what the New World Order is or what this message is you're putting out?

02:37:05.000 Well, I'm just basically reading, you know, from history books, you know, textbooks and the Bible and stuff like that where I get the facts that I believe.

02:37:12.000 And, you know, not all music is actually truthful, but I think that, you know, what I try and do is write about stuff that we can actually do something about.

02:37:23.000 You know, I mean, not like the old hippie writers from the 60s that were into, you know, lovins and stuff.

02:37:28.000 I think in order to be a strong nation, somebody needs to get a black eye once in a while.

02:37:34.000 You know, I mean, we are so sissified, our country, by being PC. 0.97

02:37:39.000 You know what? 0.98

02:37:40.000 You don't say somebody's plump, you say they're fat.

02:37:42.000 If somebody's short, you don't say they're vertically challenged.

02:37:44.000 I mean, we're such a gutless country anymore to say what the truth is, you know?

02:37:48.000 And for me, I don't mince my words.

02:37:52.000 I don't, you know, you can never have to ask me what I'm thinking.

02:37:55.000 The political lyrics of this record are something that we all feel and needs to be said, and people are too gutless in the music industry to say it, because they're afraid they're going to lose record sales.

02:38:03.000 Bottom line, what do you think about the UN?

02:38:05.000 They put out a press release a few weeks ago basically attacking your new CD.

02:38:11.000 A. Did you see that?

02:38:13.000 And B. What do you think of the UN?

02:38:15.000 I didn't see it and I don't care about them because they're ineffective at their job so they're probably equally as ineffective at picking good bands.

02:38:22.000 If you think about it, look what's happened.

02:38:28.000 Just the fact, if we look back at the last conflict in Lebanon, how long it took them to do anything, and the fact they sent 600 French sailors to resolve the conflict, that's, you know, with the conversion rate, that's about three of our Rangers, if even that.

02:38:43.000 By the way, my sister was born in Dallas, too, so I'm right there with you.

02:38:46.000 Well, I'm in Austin, Texas.

02:38:51.000 Now, Dave, again, we're talking to the founder of Megadeth and lead guitarist and also the lead singer.

02:38:58.000 Dave, you show on the cover of this new CD, United Abominations, with missiles flying in and blasting in to the United Nations.

02:39:08.000 Those aren't missiles, bud.

02:39:10.000 Those are oil barrels.

02:39:12.000 Oil barrels, all right.

02:39:13.000 Well, they certainly look like projectiles to me.

02:39:15.000 What does this cover symbolize?

02:39:18.000 They are projectiles because the oil barrels are lit on fire because oil is basically the blood of the earth.

02:39:25.000 Excuse me, I've got a little bit of some bronchitis still.

02:39:27.000 One second.

02:39:30.000 And the whole unbelievable nature that Kofi Annan's son would be involved in the whole oil for food thing just blew my mind.

02:39:42.000 And the fact that a lot of people say, we went because of oil.

02:39:46.000 The fact we won't drill up in the North because of the friggin' caribou.

02:39:49.000 You know what? 0.82

02:39:50.000 They taste like chicken.

02:39:51.000 Let's eat them.

02:39:51.000 Drill for oil.

02:39:52.000 We're okay.

02:39:54.000 Well, certainly, what's happening is they don't want to drill because it will make the oil cheaper, and they want to have artificial scarcity, and I agree they should drill up there.

02:40:04.000 So how do you see this geopolitical system?

02:40:06.000 I mean, do you see the United Nations, you just mentioned the Bible, as somehow being the arbiter of the Antichrist or as an evil force?

02:40:17.000 I mean, I know I do from their own documents and what they push and what they're saying.

02:40:22.000 Well, I'm not a right wing person for sure.

02:40:25.000 I'm very, very in the middle because I see good and bad in everything I see.

02:40:29.000 As far as you mentioning me saying something about the Bible, that's one source for what I was using for information for what I write about because I watch the news quite a lot.

02:40:39.000 I love listening to talk radio.

02:40:41.000 I listen to NPR back where I'm at.

02:40:43.000 I don't know if your station is syndicated out where I'm at, but I like listening to people who have something to talk about.

02:40:50.000 You get on the radio and you're listening to these morning jocks on FM radio. 0.98

02:40:54.000 It's like, you know, if you're ever in a room with one of those DJs, you never have to worry about being the stupidest person in the room. 0.99

02:41:00.000 Oh, it's mindless, lowest common denominator, you know, flatulence jokes. 1.00

02:41:04.000 You're right.

02:41:04.000 Right.

02:41:05.000 You also, in these lyrics, in the first song, talk about the U.N. sex trade.

02:41:13.000 And, I mean, everywhere they go, they kidnap children, women.

02:41:16.000 They've been caught over and over, but they never get in trouble.

02:41:19.000 And you also talk about how when they're in New York they get caught with slaves.

02:41:22.000 I mean, I agree!

02:41:23.000 I mean, this is the stuff I've ranted and raved about, so I just wanted to thank you for exposing that.

02:41:27.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I try to do what I can as a patriot for our country to let people that are, you know, my fellow countrymen realize, you know, how good we have it.

02:41:37.000 They haven't been to Indonesia, I have.

02:41:39.000 They haven't been into Bosnia or Herzegovina, I have.

02:41:45.000 You know, they haven't been to parts of the Czech Republic that used to be called Czechoslovakia, but because of the Civil War broke into pieces.

02:41:53.000 You know, they haven't been pulled over at machine gun point by foreign military people just to rifle through our stuff because we're Americans.

02:42:02.000 You know, when you realize what it feels like over there to be so far away from our home here and how good we have it here, Maybe people will change the way that they feel about what they say, and how they take for granted, you know, what it's like to be an American.

02:42:17.000 Well, sure.

02:42:18.000 You know, when you see the Pope get on the ground and kiss the floor, you know, I mean, that's totally cool.

02:42:23.000 Like, I can see that.

02:42:24.000 He looks at ground as being sacred.

02:42:26.000 I love our country.

02:42:27.000 I love being here.

02:42:28.000 I love playing here.

02:42:28.000 I love representing us, too.

02:42:31.000 I'm not the typical American, because most Americans, you know, they are afraid to say stuff.

02:42:35.000 I'm not.

02:42:36.000 So, I don't want a lot of the world to think that Americans are loudmouths like me, but You know, the good thing is, is I have the strength of numbers, and I love meeting people like yourself that have said, you know, I listened to you and it got me thinking.

02:42:47.000 Got me thinking!

02:42:48.000 You know, you were right, Dave.

02:42:50.000 You weren't wrong, Dave.

02:42:51.000 You were perfect because you made me decide for myself.

02:42:55.000 When I went to the 92 Democratic National Convention at Madison Square Garden, brother, I went there not as a Democrat, not as a Republican, as a New World person that was a renaissance man, a universal citizen. 0.99

02:43:07.000 And I ask questions that we as young people in America need to get answers to that no one will tell us because we're stupid kids. 0.74

02:43:13.000 I remember several of the albums that came out in the late 80s, early 90s, I guess up until about 1991 or so, maybe 1990, where you were talking about false wars, fake wars, New World Order. 0.89

02:43:27.000 I mean, again, that's all really chic right now to talk about that, but I'm trying to find out What made you start thinking about world government and, you know, how the UN wanted to take over?

02:43:38.000 I mean, that's what I got from your lyrics.

02:43:40.000 Well, because when I was 15 years old, my mom left me.

02:43:43.000 My mom brought me up as a Jehovah's Witness, so I was really spiritually and religiously abused.

02:43:48.000 And I just looked at the world because I was brainwashed as a kid to think that the world's ending, and it's because of propaganda and, you know, harlots and organized religion and dragons and stuff like that.

02:44:00.000 And, you know, the truth of the matter is that I really understood that my role in life was not just to kind of stumble through, make babies die, and then my life is measured by the dash in between the year I was born on and the year I died on my headstone.

02:44:18.000 I had to do something more important with myself.

02:44:21.000 I think I've done that.

02:44:23.000 Now, I just watched Pavarotti die, and I think, you know what?

02:44:25.000 Right now, I'm probably the only person who says Pavarotti's name in the last week.

02:44:29.000 When I die, you know, I think, wow, how long is it going to be before my name isn't mentioned anymore?

02:44:34.000 How long is it going to be before people don't think about me anymore?

02:44:36.000 Because, you know, I mean, ultimately, that's what you matter in life, the memory that you leave behind you, the legacy.

02:44:42.000 The only thing I've left is inspiring young people to get involved in politics and for young people to get involved in government with health care and stuff like that.

02:44:50.000 I meet so many doctors and so many young doctor's assistants or physician's assistants, blah, blah, blah, that stayed in school because they said, well, I was in a band, man, and I asked you advice and you said stay in school.

02:45:01.000 I did, man, and I'm lucky.

02:45:03.000 Yeah, you are lucky.

02:45:05.000 It's hard to make it in the music business.

02:45:09.000 How did you get into music?

02:45:11.000 I mean, when did you first decide that you wanted to be in a metal band?

02:45:16.000 Well, like I was saying, being 15 years old, my mom moving out, I was in 76.

02:45:19.000 It's like a 10-year-old living on the street now.

02:45:22.000 I had to learn fast and hard the rules of life, and I ain't no crybaby.

02:45:26.000 This isn't no hard luck story.

02:45:27.000 I'm talking about the human will, what you can do.

02:45:32.000 You know, and I ain't Tony Robbins either, but, you know, I figured out for myself what I needed to do real young, and because my mind had to be matured so early to be an adult at 15, to be living like a grown-up as a, just barely past being a preteen, you know, and that's hard.

02:45:50.000 So I just got thrown into the blender and just went with it.

02:45:56.000 Well, you certainly have produced some of the most prolific and complex music and lyrics.

02:46:03.000 And again, I'm just amazed by the subjects that you were talking about 15, 20 years ago, and now today.

02:46:10.000 And the UN is a criminal organization.

02:46:12.000 I mean, the directors of it are criminal. 0.84

02:46:14.000 It's just like the Red Cross.

02:46:15.000 There are well-meaning people throughout it, and then the Red Cross gets caught stealing money at the top.

02:46:20.000 Some of your lyrics, you talk about the UN will be destroyed because you talk about how they foster terrorism and a lot of other things.

02:46:29.000 Am I interpreting those lyrics correctly?

02:46:32.000 Fostering is a peculiar word to use, so I'm not going to agree to that because I don't know if everybody that's listening right now knows what that means.

02:46:39.000 Sure.

02:46:40.000 What I'm going to say is that they turned a blind eye to it a lot of times when they could have stopped it.

02:46:46.000 You know, there's a game that's going on over in South Africa.

02:46:49.000 For the female listeners here, this is mortifying, so if you can't handle it, don't listen. 1.00

02:46:55.000 For the guys, you know what?

02:46:56.000 This is just dreadful.

02:46:58.000 The rebels over there are slicing pregnant women in half because they're gambling on what the sex of the baby is.

02:47:07.000 Woman dies, baby dies, guy wins maybe five or six coconuts.

02:47:13.000 And they necklace people.

02:47:14.000 Exactly.

02:47:15.000 There is just raging evil everywhere.

02:47:17.000 And that's why our liberties and freedoms are so important and we need to protect them.

02:47:22.000 And I guess that's the message.

02:47:23.000 And I agree with you, regardless of whose policies are right or wrong, you know, the individuals that are stepping up to this country need to be praised for that.

02:47:32.000 I was just earlier talking to some military people that have been through quite a bit in the first hour.

02:47:37.000 Well, Dave Mustaine, I really want to thank you for coming on the show.

02:47:41.000 How is the new album going, Megadeth, United Abominations?

02:47:46.000 Well, there's been a lot of missteps along the way because, you know, we're just getting used to the new label and they're hiring people still that You know, they're replacing a bunch of people who really aren't capable of handling us or working at the level.

02:48:04.000 You know, I've already sold almost 60 million records in my career.

02:48:07.000 You know, you would think that some of the things that I say would be taken, you know, as I have almost 30 years experience in this business.

02:48:17.000 Okay.

02:48:18.000 But, you know, you've got to trust people and let them fall on their own.

02:48:22.000 The problem is it hurts us.

02:48:23.000 And as far as the fans are concerned, they love the record.

02:48:25.000 As far as sales are concerned, they're mediocre.

02:48:27.000 As far as factoring and downloading is probably okay.

02:48:30.000 Sure.

02:48:31.000 Well, I mean, I want to tell you, I think it's one of your better albums.

02:48:34.000 And we really want to thank you for coming on.

02:48:36.000 Oh, you're welcome, buddy.

02:48:38.000 I'm happy to see that you're standing up too, man.

02:48:41.000 Thank you.

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02:51:48.000 A new world order.

02:51:50.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

02:51:59.000 Thank you.

02:52:00.000 It's known as the Bilderberg.

02:52:02.000 Couldn't their objective be world domination?

02:52:05.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

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02:52:36.000 The old America is making great progress toward a world government. 0.84

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02:52:44.000 Alex, would you shut up, yeah?

02:52:46.000 For the first time, all the pieces have been put together.

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02:52:55.000 Earth's ruling elite believe they have discovered the fountain of unity.

02:52:59.000 But before they can attain it, 80% of us must die.

02:53:05.000 A psychopathic technocracy is establishing world government so there can be no escape from their planet.

02:53:12.000 The new world order is the old world order.

02:53:18.000 I mean, it's just the names have changed.

02:53:20.000 The appearances have changed.

02:53:21.000 Most people have no idea.

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02:53:47.000 Hates the New World Order, but he's like, he was awake 20 years ago that he hasn't taken the next step into seeing they control both left and right.

02:53:55.000 Very interesting interview.

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02:56:08.000 I am out of time.

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Alex Jones Show - October 05, 2007

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