Alex Jones Show - 20071008_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:10.000 You want answers?

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 The End Welcome.

00:00:33.000 It is the 8th day of October 2007.

00:00:34.000 And we're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:36.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:43.000 Welcome.

00:00:44.000 It is the eighth day of October 2007.

00:00:49.000 And we're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:54.000 No guests today because I want to be able to cover the news that is in front of me.

00:00:58.000 This news is not in its order of significance.

00:01:02.000 It's all important, though.

00:01:03.000 City passes camera law that all new developments have to have cameras spying on the public.

00:01:11.000 That's in Baltimore, Maryland, a suburb, Aberdeen.

00:01:16.000 Remember, two years ago, the Houston Police Chief proposed cameras in everyone's homes.

00:01:22.000 It's actually happening.

00:01:25.000 Britain on board for U.S. 0.89

00:01:27.000 strikes on Iran.

00:01:28.000 Huge news.

00:01:30.000 Madeleine Albright says war may happen.

00:01:33.000 Get ready.

00:01:35.000 Police track down the deputy who killed six people, injured another.

00:01:40.000 I've got an example of disinfo against myself out on the web, and I only cover this because it's educational.

00:01:48.000 Doesn't bother me when I get attacked.

00:01:54.000 Well, things like this do.

00:01:56.000 Some things don't bother me when it's so ridiculous, but when they misrepresent things like this, it just makes me angry.

00:02:02.000 I'm going to cover that.

00:02:03.000 Congressman Ron Paul, dollar could collapse to absolute zero.

00:02:08.000 Presidential candidate Ron Paul warns of coming global economic depression.

00:02:13.000 He did that Friday here.

00:02:14.000 The article's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:02:16.000 And the news here is the denial.

00:02:19.000 There are people on the DIG link, the message board link, Saying, oh, look at Ron Paul and his fear-mongering.

00:02:27.000 Hey, the dollar has been devalued by more than 60% against the euro's opening.

00:02:36.000 42% if you don't even count the euro that opened at 80.

00:02:41.000 If you count the euro opening at 1 to 1. 0.98

00:02:45.000 If you don't think that's already plunging, you fools, I don't know what will wake you up. 0.98

00:02:50.000 I mean, that's what makes me mad. 1.00

00:02:51.000 You guys are in denial!

00:02:56.000 I'm just sick of it!

00:02:58.000 Our enemies are destroying this country, and you can't even recognize it! 1.00

00:03:03.000 If you don't think 60% reduction in value, 62% is big, you just are an idiot. 1.00

00:03:09.000 That's all I can say to you. 1.00

00:03:12.000 And here's another one today, Gulf News.

00:03:13.000 Gulf funds drift away from the dollar.

00:03:16.000 Continual slide.

00:03:17.000 I mean, this is just mayday bad.

00:03:20.000 And you tell a slack-jawed New Yorker on that, and they just giggle mindlessly.

00:03:25.000 FBI puts anti-war protesters on criminal database.

00:03:28.000 Canada uses it to ban protesters from entry.

00:03:33.000 I'm going to spend some time on the Browns today, the bottom of the hour.

00:03:37.000 I may even do it in the next segment.

00:03:39.000 This is important.

00:03:40.000 But I'm not going to restate my position on it over and over and over again every time I get a call about it.

00:03:45.000 It's a complex issue and I'm going to flesh out where I stand on it.

00:03:49.000 I want to tie it in to four-month trial ends with no convictions.

00:03:53.000 Federal income tax evasion case involved nine defendants.

00:03:58.000 Tommy Cryer found not guilty of tax evasion as well.

00:04:02.000 Joe Bannister, many others.

00:04:05.000 Back to the war news.

00:04:08.000 Feynman, Intel Community, to release three IRAC reports to slow down Bush's warmongering.

00:04:15.000 IRAC panel, Blackwater Guard, should face murder charges And when I heard this last night, I said, I bet tomorrow this will be the news that the Iraqi government wants them to face charges, and not that the Army said Blackwater should face charges.

00:04:31.000 And they're not.

00:04:31.000 The media's not covering that today.

00:04:33.000 It's all those dirty Iraqi liars. 1.00

00:04:36.000 No, it's the Army. 1.00

00:04:39.000 The Army is saying they should stand trial.

00:04:47.000 U.S.

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00:08:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:07.000 The End Britain on board for US strikes on Iran, London Telegraph.

00:08:30.000 We're going to get into this deputy going in and killing six people, wounding another.

00:08:35.000 And the families are in the AP saying, we can't understand how a police officer could do this.

00:08:45.000 How did he get on the force?

00:08:49.000 Cops are drawn from the same pool as the general public is.

00:08:55.000 They're not angels from heaven.

00:09:00.000 Some of them are really wonderful, great, honorable people. 0.88

00:09:03.000 Some of them are just mediocre, trying to get a paycheck, lazy.

00:09:08.000 Others are control freaks. 1.00

00:09:09.000 Others are criminals.

00:09:12.000 I mean, that's just the way reality is. 0.99

00:09:18.000 And that's why the founding fathers said, don't let government get total power and control over you, because in every case, they will rape you.

00:09:28.000 You may have a good leadership in at first when you get a dictatorship, but over time you will get a despot, and they will use those levers.

00:09:38.000 And of course, 99 times out of 100, it is a despotism that takes over and sets up the centralized system to begin with.

00:09:47.000 I'm already digressing off into that.

00:09:48.000 It's just how naive the public is.

00:09:53.000 I mean, I see it in the papers every day, where cops are getting busted for bank robbery, cops are getting busted for armed robbery, cops are getting busted for killing their wives, killing their neighbors, killing people at bars.

00:10:05.000 Statistically, more than the general public, because they get habitualized to the use of force.

00:10:11.000 They get used to being able to use that force and getting away with it, whether it's in proper or improper areas.

00:10:19.000 And so some guy smarts off to them in a bar, they get in a fist fight, they start losing, or they get mad and they just pull that handgun they've got on their side, or they pull it off their ankle and they blow them away.

00:10:32.000 I mean, I see it every single day.

00:10:39.000 Statistically, police have a many, many times higher chance of being involved in crime.

00:10:48.000 Polices are all federal numbers, by the way, which are even whitewashes.

00:10:51.000 It's much worse from what I see in the news compared to what the numbers are.

00:10:55.000 They are many times more likely to be involved in embezzlement, involved in kickbacks, involved in predatory action on women and children.

00:11:06.000 Now, it's still a very low number, but smart criminals, smart rapists, smart Smart torturers, smart pedophiles, smart criminals go and get a badge and a gun.

00:11:23.000 Or they go become a city council member.

00:11:26.000 They're seeking power.

00:11:28.000 Alright, later I'm going to walk through more of this.

00:11:30.000 It's just, it's an unbelievable buffet of news here.

00:11:34.000 Cities passing laws, they want cameras in your houses.

00:11:37.000 I mean, it's all out of control.

00:11:41.000 It's completely freaking me out.

00:11:42.000 Ron Paul talking about total dollar collapse.

00:11:46.000 News of that in the press.

00:11:51.000 Let me just go ahead and cover the Browns right now.

00:11:53.000 Let me just do this right now.

00:11:59.000 And then we'll open the phones up and you're welcome to talk about the Browns getting grabbed last Thursday, the economy, the buildup for war in Iran, this cop, the sheriff's deputy going in and gunning all these people down, showing them who the boss is. the sheriff's deputy going in and gunning all these people I was on Coast to Coast AM last night and then got all jacked up from being on there and come to bed at about four in the morning.

00:12:23.000 I'm a little out of it today.

00:12:25.000 So just give me a moment to drink my coffee here.

00:12:28.000 This Dag Blasted Allergies. 1.00

00:12:30.000 I'm in the phase now with the cedar and the oak and the pollen flying around here in Austin where it just coats my lungs.

00:12:36.000 So I'm even more raspy and have to pause every few seconds to cough.

00:12:44.000 Ah, life before allergies.

00:12:47.000 Hmm.

00:12:49.000 Alrighty.

00:12:51.000 Let me get into the Browns right now.

00:12:53.000 I tried to give the Browns political support, and by that, when the Feds were going to rush in there with their armored vehicles and their guys dressed up in ghillie suits and camouflage, clearly to do a Waco-style raid, I said, that is criminal, You shouldn't go in there violently against those people.

00:13:19.000 They're convicted of a non-violent crime that is a non-crime.

00:13:25.000 And we need to end this peacefully.

00:13:31.000 And I admired Ed Delane Brown's courage and their stoic will to face what appeared to be certain death at the hands of the federal government.

00:13:47.000 But when the Browns started talking about, when Ed started talking about how he would shoot into the woods if he saw anything moving, I privately told him, I said, Ed, a lot of people publicly said on air, Ed, you don't want to talk like that because then, and I did say this later on air, the Feds then can come right up into the edge of the woods and just, if they want to, sniper you.

00:14:17.000 And then say, well, because of your statements, we had to.

00:14:20.000 He was threatening to kill anybody that came close, including somebody walking their dog, kids from the nearby neighborhoods that could be going to the woods.

00:14:32.000 I know I did that as a young man, as a teenager, and when I was 10 years old, we'd walk around all day.

00:14:39.000 I grew up on the edge of Dallas, but there were still, when I was growing up, areas, there were still some farms left right in the middle of suburbia, and we'd go walk around and see people's horses and cows and get down in creek bottoms, and I said, Ed, listen, you're escalating this.

00:14:54.000 You don't want to say you're just shooting into the woods.

00:14:58.000 The feds are less apt to come in there if you don't talk like that, and they could back off and leave you alone.

00:15:02.000 This could kind of be forgotten.

00:15:04.000 Like the Gray family in East Texas, who now have been holed up. 0.52

00:15:09.000 I'm told they're just basically left alone now and work in the community.

00:15:12.000 It was just quietly left alone.

00:15:15.000 Eight years later.

00:15:17.000 This started in 1999.

00:15:20.000 And I said, but talking about spraying gunfire into the woods, you're inviting people on the land.

00:15:25.000 A lot of them get walking in.

00:15:27.000 That's dangerous.

00:15:30.000 And Ed didn't want to listen to me.

00:15:33.000 And then I said, Ed, You're having all these people on your property, and I said this on air, I said, what's going to happen is the feds are going to surround you one day, posing as your buddies, and then they're going to pull guns out and put them to your head.

00:15:45.000 Oh, no, that's not going to happen.

00:15:47.000 They can't do that to me.

00:15:49.000 We've got contingency plans. 0.98

00:15:51.000 And I said, yeah, you probably got plans that are going to get you and your wife killed, and that are going to get some of those people killed, some of the feds, and then that'll make them martyrs. 0.92

00:16:00.000 And I said, that may be what you want, but I really don't think we need that in this country right now. 0.96

00:16:05.000 Oh, you're talking just like one of them.

00:16:07.000 him.

00:16:09.000 Ed, please listen to me.

00:16:14.000 Stop escalating this.

00:16:17.000 I I said, when you have parties out there, it's one thing to have political rallies and speak out and say, leave us alone.

00:16:24.000 But when you taunt them with parties, they will use that in the media to make it look like you're taunting the public.

00:16:30.000 They will misrepresent that.

00:16:31.000 I'm talking about basic strategy here in politics.

00:16:34.000 And they will demonize you.

00:16:37.000 And they will use it against you.

00:16:39.000 No, no, whatever.

00:16:40.000 I mean, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, the watermelon truck, last week, ladies and gentlemen. - Good morning.

00:16:53.000 I was born in the dark, but it wasn't last night.

00:16:57.000 And I have seen hundreds of people festooned in camouflage and medals and announcing themselves admirals because they had a bass boat and running around calling themselves generals because they had, you know, two dumb cousins that followed them and saluted them.

00:17:13.000 I mean, I've literally had people strutting around Texas walk up to me in meetings and say, you must salute the President. 0.97

00:17:19.000 I mean, this is just out of control nuttery.

00:17:22.000 And it makes our movement look bad.

00:17:25.000 Again, I respect the Browns.

00:17:27.000 I pray for the Browns.

00:17:28.000 They need to be released from jail.

00:17:30.000 They need to have a fair trial.

00:17:32.000 I'm going to get Larry Becraft and other top lawyers, constitutional scholars, not quacks, on who actually get people found not guilty and get mistrials and get retrials.

00:17:43.000 I'm going to have him on sometime this week and others.

00:17:48.000 Because they clearly didn't get a fair trial.

00:17:50.000 They should get a new trial.

00:17:52.000 That conviction in absentia, it's not a real trial.

00:17:57.000 By any stretch, by the entire body of precedent.

00:18:06.000 And from that point on, as long as they were peaceful out there, and didn't talk about a bunch of violence, and didn't let provocateurs sass them up, And to saying a bunch of things and shooting their mouths off, while it was all being recorded by the way, you can guarantee that, that they could have delicately played this and ended up getting out of jail in a couple of years like Nelson Mandela and been iconic heroes.

00:18:36.000 Instead they played it exactly wrong with all the experts leading them down into oblivion There's a lot of other people who sit around, a lot of other cornballs and people, who want to see shootouts, who want to see martial law in this country, who constantly shirt on their websites and their radio shows, guaranteed they're feds, most of them.

00:18:59.000 I mean, you don't get on the air and say, kill feds, murder this and that, do this and that, over and over again and not be arrested if you're not a fed. 0.65

00:19:08.000 And that's what they're doing.

00:19:09.000 They're provocateuring everywhere, as much as they can, desperately trying to get some type of violent clash.

00:19:17.000 Now, I'm not saying Monier, the head federal marshal, is doing that out there in that district, because he's compartmentalized, but there are definitely those in the strata, leading back to Defense Department, FBI, no doubt, and others that are playing this like a fiddle.

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00:24:00.000 coming up in the next segment i'm going to suspend right now my discussion of how all this unfolded and how i would have handled it

00:24:29.000 But Sean Kradish, for quite a long while, has run one of the websites for Ed and Elaine Brown, and he's worried that Ed has not been enrolled in the Bureau of Prisons' in-custody system, and he's been in custody now for three plus days, three and a half, almost four days.

00:24:50.000 That is not normal.

00:24:52.000 And the question is, is he being given diesel treatment?

00:24:55.000 Dieseling is where they put you A lot of times strapped in a sitting position until your toes pop.

00:25:03.000 That's what happens after 3, 4, 5 days being forced to sit.

00:25:07.000 The blood in your feet.

00:25:09.000 And Congressman Hanson spoke out against the IRS back in the 80's.

00:25:13.000 And I've got the news articles.

00:25:15.000 I've interviewed Congressman Hanson.

00:25:16.000 I've seen video interviews with him.

00:25:17.000 And the photos.

00:25:19.000 They knocked his teeth out.

00:25:20.000 Beat him from head to toe.

00:25:21.000 He didn't resist. 0.95

00:25:22.000 They dieseled him for two weeks until he basically went into a coma, defecating on himself for weeks.

00:25:29.000 They would just give him water.

00:25:30.000 It's all part of the way they pleasure themselves, the particular people that drive these torture vehicles.

00:25:39.000 And that's why this system is so criminal.

00:25:42.000 Now, we don't know that they're deseling Ed Brown.

00:25:45.000 But if the feds, Mr. Monnier and others, I think Homeland Security has them now, and they love to torture.

00:25:51.000 They watch Jack Bauer and, you know, it's imaginary world, and then they put that template over USA.

00:25:55.000 citizens.

00:25:56.000 But if he doesn't show up in prison soon, and in the custody rolls, then we know that probably the worst is going on.

00:26:06.000 So right now, it's very suspicious he could be under torture.

00:26:10.000 Because they'll torture sitting Congressmen. 0.99

00:26:13.000 I mean, they'll torture him, they'll beat him, they'll trap him down until their feet pop.

00:26:17.000 Every toe popped open and spewed purple blood, black blood, from the moment his shoes swole up and basically popped open.

00:26:25.000 And that's how they pleasure themselves. 0.87

00:26:27.000 And believe me, the demons will be torturing them in hell.

00:26:30.000 But they don't believe in hell.

00:26:32.000 Sean Kradish, you believe he's going to Ohio.

00:26:36.000 We know that Elaine is enrolled.

00:26:39.000 When was she enrolled in Danbury?

00:26:42.000 Um, as far as I know, she was enrolled, um, I believe Saturday.

00:26:46.000 I think that's when it first came up.

00:26:47.000 I could be wrong on that, but she, she... Okay, she is enrolling.

00:26:52.000 How did you discover that?

00:26:53.000 Give us the intel.

00:26:54.000 Well, yes, some of our members on makethestand.com, that's our website, um, just did some Bureau of Prison searches on the internet, um, with her name and everything, and came up with her inmate number and where she's located, so... Give us her inmate number.

00:27:09.000 Do you have that in front of you?

00:27:11.000 Yeah, actually I do.

00:27:12.000 Let me pull that up for you really quick.

00:27:15.000 Yeah, it's important to have that all on the record because, again, I didn't want the Browns to be killed.

00:27:20.000 I didn't want them to be arrested.

00:27:22.000 It was an unarrestable offense.

00:27:24.000 The private banks wanted their money.

00:27:27.000 The public is now learning of this no matter what the criminals do, but then he put it into another ballpark with all the talk of revenge and killings and the rest of it.

00:27:38.000 Uh, which I did not support, but then now if they torture him, it goes right back into them being completely in the wrong, and this is just absolutely horrible.

00:27:46.000 Do you have her inmate number now?

00:27:48.000 Yeah, her registered number is 03924-049.

00:27:49.000 Um, that's as far as we can tell.

00:27:52.000 24-049.

00:27:56.000 That's as far as we can tell.

00:27:58.000 That's within the system.

00:27:59.000 We ought to find out what pastor is a chaplain at that FEMA community.

00:28:07.000 There's no reason at all to cart them around.

00:28:08.000 order this america killing base and we need to see if he can talk to her somehow or see if the media can get in to see her yeah that'd be good but um you know right now we're really worried about ed because we don't know what they're doing with them and and i mean i'm pretty confident that they are doing something there's no reason at all to cart him around there's no reason not to hand him over to the the bureau of prisons right away like they said they would um you know why

00:28:36.000 why hasn't he shown up in the system yet?

00:28:38.000 Why, when you, when you do a search for his name, it says, not in Bureau of Prisons Custody.

00:28:43.000 Well, I think with that piece of... But Marshall still have him.

00:28:45.000 Yeah, not, not yet in Bureau of Prisons Custody.

00:28:48.000 That little piece of evidence, coming up on four days in their clutches, They're probably, I'd say 9 times out of 10, 90% chance, they're torturing him more than just dieseling to quote, find out who the secret teams are that are going to come after him.

00:29:04.000 And I think much of that was just bravado and talk, which the feds should be smart enough to know, but by torturing him, it's just horrible.

00:29:14.000 Well yeah, it needs to stop and what we're asking people to do is to give the marshals in New Hampshire a call and try to see what's going on and ask about Ed.

00:29:27.000 Well also, not just the marshals, the national media, the local media.

00:29:35.000 Is this a rendition?

00:29:36.000 I mean basically that's what it is.

00:29:38.000 He's disappeared.

00:29:40.000 According to your report, into a black hole.

00:29:42.000 Sean Kradish, stay with us.

00:29:44.000 Are we going to let citizens disappear into black holes?

00:29:49.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:01.000 All right, Sean Kradish, I was interrogating you there and you couldn't answer any questions.

00:33:13.000 You got the floor.

00:33:15.000 You run their main website.

00:33:17.000 Give out that address again and then walk through what you know has happened.

00:33:22.000 Yeah, our site is MakeTheStand.com and it is the official website of Edwin Lane Brown.

00:33:30.000 It has been for quite some time.

00:33:32.000 What we've done is we've set up a membership system and a discussion forum.

00:33:37.000 If you register on there, it just takes a minute, it's free of course.

00:33:42.000 We can email you as soon as we know of any new developments.

00:33:45.000 We sent out an alert last night and at the top of the page in our news you can see a link to the Bureau of Prisons website where you can actually do name searches and searches by inmate numbers.

00:33:59.000 And if you do a search for Edward Brown you'll see that he's 65 or that's what they have him listed as.

00:34:08.000 White male, and he comes up not in BOP, Bureau of Prisons, custody.

00:34:14.000 So the marshals or someone else still have them.

00:34:16.000 We don't know exactly what they're doing, but it doesn't take much imagination.

00:34:21.000 Because of Ed, how he stood up against him, I guarantee you they are torturing him in some way.

00:34:28.000 And I'm sure it's not pleasant at all.

00:34:30.000 They're probably trying to get information out of them.

00:34:32.000 Well, most Americans are ignorant about the prison system, but torture is standard in federal hands.

00:34:39.000 Waterboarding has been done for years. 0.96

00:34:42.000 It's the equivalent with a bag over the head until you start passing out, strangling you.

00:34:48.000 dieseling, driving until your feet bust open, beating, chaining you in different configurations, just good old-fashioned throttlings.

00:34:58.000 And there's no doubt that it's very, very suspicious.

00:35:04.000 Again, I'd say 90% chance because of the fact that he hasn't shown up in Bureau of Prison Hands, where you have a lot less torture because it's lower-level people, it's all surveilled, they can get in more trouble.

00:35:17.000 They've got to claim you've done something to have an excuse to go in and beat you.

00:35:20.000 But no doubt...

00:35:23.000 that the marshals are scared to death, that they're worried about people coming after them, and they're doing the exact wrong thing right now, but of course they're know-it-alls, they know everything, by torturing.

00:35:37.000 I mean, in my gut with this new news, I have really no doubt in my gut they're torturing him, but obviously we can't say we're sure.

00:35:44.000 But the bigger issue here for the local papers, the TV station, who are our best bet to cover this to then springboard to national attention, is that this is exactly what we hear about citizens being grabbed and disappearing into black holes.

00:36:02.000 And he has disappeared into an almost four-day, tonight at 7 o'clock, 745, it'll be a four-day black hole.

00:36:11.000 And we need for the feds to show us pictures of Ed, because they've already broken a lot of protocols, a lot of regulations.

00:36:20.000 I know that for a fact.

00:36:21.000 We can go look them up, but I've seen the regulations in the past.

00:36:24.000 We need to double-check those regulations.

00:36:26.000 They're not allowed to do this.

00:36:27.000 This is secret police right there.

00:36:29.000 Yeah, and we don't even know if Ed's alive right now, and I'm not saying anything otherwise, but we don't know what condition he's in, if he's in the hospital.

00:36:38.000 I mean, all we know right now is the information that they've given us through their media cohorts, and that's not good enough.

00:36:47.000 Well, you know what?

00:36:47.000 I agree with you.

00:36:48.000 They could have... Okay, go ahead.

00:36:52.000 Get a pencil or pen to write this down.

00:36:54.000 It's 603... And what number is this?

00:36:56.000 I'm going to stop you again.

00:36:58.000 Okay.

00:36:58.000 Yeah.

00:36:58.000 I'm going to have to stop you again.

00:36:59.000 This is the U.S. 0.77

00:37:00.000 Marshals Office in New Hampshire.

00:37:02.000 Okay.

00:37:03.000 Very important.

00:37:03.000 603-225-1632.

00:37:03.000 That's 603-225-1632.

00:37:04.000 603-225-1632.

00:37:09.000 That's 603-225-1632.

00:37:14.000 That's the office I'm assuming where Monier, or whatever the heck his name is, works.

00:37:21.000 We need to call them.

00:37:23.000 Can I say something?

00:37:24.000 Sure.

00:37:25.000 It's just my, and you know I'm not that smart, but I just have a recommendation.

00:37:30.000 It's to call the media.

00:37:32.000 Because Monier will just put the phones on hold and it'll go to voicemail, and I'm not saying don't try the number, but I personally think that if you get media attention on this, they're going to have to respond.

00:37:45.000 They will ignore alternative media generally, not that alternative media isn't bigger and more important in reality, but they're still living in the Stone Age.

00:37:55.000 This is all spur of the moment, Sean.

00:37:57.000 I don't have any of those numbers in front of me.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, what we can do is we can post them on the front page at the very top of MakeTheStand.com.

00:38:06.000 I'll get some of those numbers, some of the local media.

00:38:08.000 You think the local media is the best?

00:38:10.000 Only because they have already covered it and are hot on the story.

00:38:14.000 They are apt.

00:38:15.000 We can do both.

00:38:16.000 quicker than national media you get local media within 24 hours I predict then national media will talk about it and then we'll get a response as of the because and I'm not poopooing your plan of calling the marshals I think it's a multi-pronged you know it every for everyone sitting at home or even if you're at work it doesn't matter take five minutes call a couple phone numbers Call the Marshal's office.

00:38:43.000 That number we just gave.

00:38:44.000 Then look on our website and get the numbers for the media.

00:38:48.000 Call them really quick.

00:38:49.000 Express your concerns.

00:38:51.000 We don't know where Ed is, what condition he's in.

00:38:54.000 You don't understand why the Marshals haven't put him in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons yet, and they have Elaine, and you're worried that something's very wrong.

00:39:05.000 And this needs to be looked into.

00:39:06.000 That's the message we need to get to these people.

00:39:08.000 You know what?

00:39:09.000 I'm going to call Larry Becraft.

00:39:11.000 I'm just telling my producer now.

00:39:12.000 I was going to get Becraft on the mark because I got all this other news, but go ahead and call Becraft, a constitutional lawyer who's won a lot of cases and graduated top of his class.

00:39:20.000 I really respect his take on all of this.

00:39:24.000 And I know he'll know the federal laws.

00:39:26.000 He can look them up quickly.

00:39:28.000 I've seen them.

00:39:29.000 There are federal laws on prisoners not disappearing.

00:39:31.000 And I know three days is too long.

00:39:33.000 Two days is too long.

00:39:34.000 There's supposed to be a chain of custody and a record.

00:39:38.000 And if he has disappeared, they will try to follow their own rules.

00:39:43.000 The They probably have him under anti-terrorism guidelines.

00:39:47.000 He may have even been designated an enemy combatant for all we know.

00:39:51.000 And this is outrageous if this is the case.

00:39:53.000 Sean, I want to commend you for what you've done with the fine website that I visit every week.

00:39:58.000 And I want to thank you for your concern and your courage in supporting Ed and Elaine Brown.

00:40:03.000 Now you've got the floor for anything else you want to say.

00:40:06.000 That's pretty much it.

00:40:08.000 We just want people to take 5 minutes, 10 minutes out of their time today to try to help Ed and Elaine because we don't want to see anything... What people have to understand is if they're doing anything bad right now, which it's very likely they are, it can have permanent physical health consequences for the rest of his life.

00:40:28.000 You know, I don't want to see the guy with scars and nerve damage and toes that will never heal for the rest of his life.

00:40:37.000 You know, the same kind of stuff that happened to Congressman Hanson.

00:40:41.000 It's not pretty at all.

00:40:44.000 So we don't want to see that happen.

00:40:45.000 We don't want to have Ed go through this kind of torture because it's very, very bad.

00:40:51.000 And if we bring this to the light and expose the fact that they haven't put him in the Bureau of Prisons, I think that's a good thing and we can get this stopped right away.

00:41:05.000 So please check out MakeTheStand.com and we'll have more information on there, what you can do, and hopefully we can help them out.

00:41:14.000 Sean, just recap the basic facts of the case, what we know right now, where Elaine is, her number and other things.

00:41:25.000 Yeah, Elaine right now, as far as we can tell, is in Danbury, Connecticut.

00:41:30.000 It's a woman's minimal security prison. 1.00

00:41:33.000 Her register number is 03924-049.

00:41:36.000 03924-049.

00:41:41.000 And Ed's number looks like it's the same, except it's 03923 instead of 24-049.

00:41:50.000 And Ed still shows up not in Bureau of Prisons custody.

00:41:54.000 This is outrageous.

00:41:56.000 This is outrageous.

00:41:58.000 Sean, let me put you on hold and get your number.

00:42:01.000 I think I've had it in the past, but I want to stay in contact with you and call in anytime there's new developments.

00:42:06.000 Okay, Sean?

00:42:06.000 Okay.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, great.

00:42:08.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:42:08.000 Thank you so much.

00:42:10.000 Now again, let me walk through this, then we'll take other calls on this subject, and we've got a bunch of other war news, economy news, very serious, what we're looking down the barrel of.

00:42:19.000 Let me find my specific stories on this.

00:42:26.000 Again, when the Browns were surrounded by Feds, who clearly were preparing for an assault, armored vehicles, people in ghillie suits, on the perimeter, All indications of a violent assault.

00:42:41.000 What do we see at Ruby Ridge?

00:42:42.000 Well, they shot people in the head, shot people in the back, shot the family dog.

00:42:47.000 Evidence shows shot their own federal marshal. 0.73

00:42:51.000 Bunch of cowboys.

00:42:54.000 What do we see at Waco?

00:42:55.000 Going in, not arresting correction town, wanting to have an event, the BATF, loading their cameras on camera, bragging we'll get lots of funding from this, we're gonna go engage the cult in a shootout.

00:43:07.000 That's their words for them.

00:43:10.000 And I went and covered that and know the Davidians and documented what really happened. 0.99

00:43:13.000 They sent Delta Force in with infantry, standard maneuvers to kill everybody inside, kill those children. 0.80

00:43:19.000 And those two-year-old and three-year-old and four-year-old and five-year-old children from ages six months to ten years didn't deserve to die. 0.98

00:43:26.000 Over 30 of them.

00:43:32.000 And Monier admitted that they got horrible black eyes from that.

00:43:35.000 The Feds admitted it energized the public to hate the New World Order.

00:43:38.000 The New World Order's got a big problem.

00:43:40.000 I mean, we know who you are, we know what you are.

00:43:43.000 And so I saw the Feds early on saying, OK, we're not going to do a violent assault.

00:43:47.000 And I said, that's good.

00:43:50.000 I didn't necessarily believe what they were saying, but Monier was saying, in the past, this has really blown up in our face, we don't want this.

00:43:58.000 That was an admission.

00:43:59.000 And I'm a pretty good gauge of people, and I think we could have gotten folks more wicked than Monier.

00:44:05.000 I'll just leave it at that.

00:44:08.000 Okay, I'm trying to be real world here.

00:44:10.000 And they don't make admissions of things they've done wrong in the past if they're not really concerned.

00:44:18.000 I mean, a lot of this approach was genuine.

00:44:21.000 Now, we know Homeland Security then flew around in the helicopter.

00:44:25.000 They're above the marshals, and I know there's been some infighting within the ranks with the agencies at less than 30 feet below tree level above crowds.

00:44:34.000 That is so dangerous.

00:44:35.000 That is total felonies.

00:44:37.000 I don't care if you're the feds.

00:44:39.000 You're not allowed to do that and endanger your pilots, your people in there, and the public.

00:44:43.000 Okay?

00:44:44.000 That was macho bravado.

00:44:46.000 And I said, oh, things are making a turn for the worse.

00:44:48.000 This is not good.

00:44:53.000 Conversely, I was not sitting here like a spectator.

00:44:59.000 In a peanut gallery, wanting to see Edna Wayne Brown die, a lot of people just couldn't wait for the conflagration.

00:45:05.000 A lot of people are sitting around, oiling their guns, wanting to go out and just blast cops in the streets and shoot feds and start World War III.

00:45:13.000 And let me just tell the feds something. 0.96

00:45:15.000 There are hundreds of thousands of people in this country who aren't just shooting their mouths off, whose mamas you killed in nursing homes, or whose daddies you falsely imprisoned, or whose kids you shot, or sisters you tasered, or I mean, believe me, they want to come out and start killing you.

00:45:31.000 They want civil war to start.

00:45:33.000 I don't want that.

00:45:35.000 And I have my reasons for that, and I can walk through those.

00:45:37.000 I mean, believe me, the threat is very real.

00:45:42.000 And you don't Generally, make it any better, the criminal things the Feds do.

00:45:49.000 Cooking bombs, training drivers, bombing the World Trade Centers, covering up 9-11, blocking good FBI that tries to stop it, provocateuring, creating Klan groups, trying to get them to blow up chemical plants, all the crimes, murder for hire, the Feds run, all of it.

00:46:04.000 About 20% of your ranks are hardcore criminals, and they're all the top ranks.

00:46:09.000 And you just run around and do whatever you want, and killing Martin Luther King and Kennedy and everything else, and we're sick of it.

00:46:18.000 At the same time, it's going to help the New World Order. 0.91

00:46:23.000 And Bush funded, for this year, in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, and into next year, martial law, quote, for riots and insurrection by the American people.

00:46:34.000 They never put that in writing.

00:46:37.000 And this whole thing has provocateur-ed written all over it.

00:46:41.000 Especially when that helicopter came through.

00:46:42.000 through.

00:46:44.000 So we're getting mixed signals here. 0.79

00:46:51.000 And I remember telling people, I know right here in Austin, I remember saying, man, you're crazy to go up there.

00:46:57.000 I'm going to go up there.

00:46:58.000 I said, guaranteed, half of the people Brown thinks are his buddies are feds.

00:47:01.000 He's completely surrounded.

00:47:03.000 They're just laughing all the way to the bank with this one.

00:47:07.000 They're in control of the situation.

00:47:09.000 This is a psy-op. 0.98

00:47:10.000 I smell a giant rat. 0.98

00:47:12.000 And Brown is going to end up getting killed, or more likely, they're going to be all around him one night and pull their guns out and pistol whip him within an inch of his life. 0.98

00:47:20.000 Oh, no, he's too heavily defended.

00:47:22.000 He's too... I mean, come on, folks.

00:47:25.000 You don't let crowds of people in, knowing a bunch of them could be feds, if you're seriously not trying to be apprehended.

00:47:34.000 Then we get into all the debate about, well, Brown didn't do anything wrong.

00:47:38.000 No, he didn't!

00:47:40.000 The income tax is an offshore fraud.

00:47:43.000 The New World Order is private.

00:47:44.000 The District of Columbia is private.

00:47:50.000 And we're winning the fight peacefully to wake up the people.

00:47:55.000 Treasury agent, Joe Bannister, 1997, driving along in the Bay Area.

00:48:01.000 Here's D.B.

00:48:02.000 Kidd on a syndicated radio show, talking about how the Federal Reserve's private, the IRS is their collection agency.

00:48:08.000 He spends two years quietly researching it because he was going to go disprove her and then go out and expose her.

00:48:15.000 He thought it was all true, went to his supervisors and they said, shut up about this, don't talk about it.

00:48:21.000 They all know, folks, at the higher levels.

00:48:24.000 We didn't have an income tax until 1913.

00:48:27.000 It wasn't enforced on the general public until the early 1950s.

00:48:31.000 And then it was a few percentage points.

00:48:33.000 We built this country without it.

00:48:35.000 It is to the private banks, as Ronald Reagan's Commission in 81 found.

00:48:38.000 81 found.

00:48:38.000 So, we're winning the fight.

00:48:46.000 So, what did they do a few years after he went public?

00:48:49.000 They indicted him, had to trump up charges on him, he was found not guilty.

00:48:55.000 What happened to the lawyer down in Louisiana, Tommy K. Cryer, represented by Larry Becraft, found not guilty?

00:49:03.000 What happened last week or two weeks ago?

00:49:05.000 Four-month trial ends with no convictions.

00:49:07.000 Federal income tax evasion case involved nine defendants.

00:49:11.000 A criminal tax case alleging income tax evasion and conspiracy dissolved in federal court this week when a jury returned zero convictions on 161 charges faced by nine defendants.

00:49:22.000 If you even get a semi-fair trial now, the public has learned about this now.

00:49:29.000 It's not something that a few good ol' boys know about, or a few tax attorneys know about, or a few bankers know about.

00:49:35.000 Now, around half the public knows it's a fraud.

00:49:41.000 Thanks to all the work you've done, listeners, in America, Freedom to Fascism, and DV Kid, and Red Beckman 30, 40 years ago.

00:49:48.000 I mean, he had IRS come to his house, beat him up, bulldoze his little trailer, World War II vet.

00:49:57.000 People have gone through hell for this.

00:49:59.000 Congressman Hanson held hearings on it.

00:50:01.000 They came and grabbed him, beat him with an inch of his life, and tortured him for months.

00:50:07.000 Knocked his teeth out, a congressman.

00:50:09.000 I mean, they used to be hardcore killers on this.

00:50:12.000 Now they're scared.

00:50:13.000 Now, see, now they're acting different.

00:50:14.000 Okay, we want to go slow.

00:50:16.000 We don't want to wake up.

00:50:17.000 We know you're mad at us.

00:50:19.000 You've never seen federal marshals talk like that.

00:50:23.000 They're beginning to learn.

00:50:24.000 They're beginning to look.

00:50:26.000 See?

00:50:28.000 A lot of them are Joe Bannisters, folks!

00:50:30.000 They don't know!

00:50:32.000 We don't want to run out and shoot them! 0.78

00:50:35.000 We want to wake them up! 0.88

00:50:36.000 Those that we can!

00:50:38.000 We're winning right now!

00:50:41.000 In the Infowar! 0.99

00:50:43.000 It will help the globalists to kill cops and feds! 0.99

00:50:48.000 That is the last thing we want! 0.97

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00:55:06.000 Mike and Eileen and many others said they've got information on the Browns.

00:55:11.000 And here's the problem with this.

00:55:12.000 I'm going to go to you.

00:55:14.000 But I don't know who's who.

00:55:16.000 I know about the gentlemen.

00:55:21.000 Sean Kravish.

00:55:23.000 I know that he runs a website for him.

00:55:25.000 I've heard him on the air.

00:55:26.000 I've talked to him before.

00:55:27.000 I know that's legit.

00:55:28.000 I really don't want to put out speculation and things here on air, so just announce whether it's speculation or whether it's something you've been able to confirm when we get you on.

00:55:37.000 I appreciate people calling in on those subjects, and we're going to go to you.

00:55:43.000 But just finishing up what I was trying to say earlier.

00:55:46.000 They try to use TV shows like Jack Bauer and The Training that they actually give them, that we're a bunch of animals, that they're allowed to torture us, that the government's good, but the board's that.

00:55:56.000 Everybody knows the government's criminal now.

00:55:59.000 Anybody who's got half a brain knows that, and it's just our job to keep exposing the IRS and the Federal Reserve, and they're crumbling.

00:56:06.000 Everybody knows they're the enemy now.

00:56:07.000 The people know it's private.

00:56:09.000 They know it's a fraud.

00:56:09.000 They know it's a private corporation.

00:56:13.000 More and more in federal and state court, people are winning tax cases, not just federal, but state as well.

00:56:19.000 And we're winning the information war peacefully.

00:56:24.000 And I know they've built FEMA camps, and I know they want to shoot in war. 0.93

00:56:27.000 The New World Order doesn't care if a bunch of cops and feds and their minions get killed in a fight with the American people.

00:56:32.000 They want to play us off against each other.

00:56:34.000 Again, it's divide and conquer.

00:56:37.000 Where they want to get us into little factionalized groups that only talk about which group supposedly runs the New World Order.

00:56:43.000 When it's a consortium of crime syndicates.

00:56:45.000 Some more than others.

00:56:46.000 Regardless, let's fight the New World Order.

00:56:48.000 Let's expose its system.

00:56:51.000 Instead of being manipulated by the COINTELPRO and just spending all our time ninnying about who's the best host or who writes the best articles, let's go wake other people up about the basics.

00:57:01.000 I mean, that's what I do.

00:57:05.000 I've woken up countless people that are kind of like my bad children that then weevil about mad that, well, you woke me up, but you're bad.

00:57:13.000 Because now I just obsess on how it's this group or that group and never wake anybody up.

00:57:19.000 Well, just please remember the basic work of waking people up.

00:57:23.000 I try to give the other talk show hosting people tips, too.

00:57:26.000 Cover the news, cover the information, cover how this stuff works.

00:57:29.000 Don't go right to, you know, sewing circle inside politics of different niches.

00:57:38.000 But we need to pray for Ed and Elaine Brown.

00:57:40.000 We're going to get a big article out with these updates and these alerts that have been put out.

00:57:44.000 On PrisonPlanet.com, the next few hours, Paul Watson's working on it right now.

00:57:48.000 I think it's key to call the media.

00:57:51.000 Because the marshals are federally compartmentalized and they've admitted before, they just basically don't answer the phones.

00:57:58.000 I'm not saying don't call.

00:57:59.000 My point is, the media needs to be demanded that WRMU, what's the one up there in Plainfield I can look it up?

00:58:08.000 WMUR, something like that.

00:58:11.000 We need to call them, you need to call the local papers, and then they'll cover it, and then it'll be picked up nationally.

00:58:19.000 I'd call AP in New Hampshire, AP in surrounding states, the AP Bureau offices, and say, hey, you know, this guy's been disappeared.

00:58:28.000 They won't see where he is for almost four days.

00:58:31.000 That's a violation of federal law.

00:58:34.000 And that's how you get the ball rolling, folks.

00:58:37.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:14.000 Alright, for stations that are just joining us, Ron Paul says dollar could collapse to absolute zero.

00:59:23.000 Other nations concur.

00:59:27.000 The FBI puts anti-war protesters on criminal database.

00:59:30.000 Canada uses the ban to bar protesters from entering the country, including former U.S.

00:59:36.000 ambassadors.

00:59:37.000 Ambassadors, Ken's wife.

00:59:41.000 We have got so much other news, and I'm going to cover it today.

00:59:44.000 Jim Brossard is also going to be coming on.

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00:59:52.000 Well, we've got him popping in, coming up in 30 minutes.

00:59:55.000 Ed and Elaine Brown grabbed about 745 Eastern last Thursday night.

01:00:02.000 Elaine a few days ago, it was by Saturday, was registered, we've now confirmed this, at the Danbury Women's Prison Facility.

01:00:16.000 And now, Ed Brown is missing in action, and this violates a whole bunch of federal regulations and laws.

01:00:24.000 They've got to have a chain of custody where those people are, and they're no doubt torturing him and desaling him.

01:00:29.000 You can just bet your bottom dollar.

01:00:31.000 Because they do that generally anyways, but on top of it, it's all part of the freedom.

01:00:35.000 Oh yeah, they've been torturing Americans forever, folks. 0.78

01:00:37.000 They're just using it on the Iraqis to train you that it's acceptable now. 0.98

01:00:41.000 Oh, see, it's good to use it on them.

01:00:42.000 Oh, it's good on you.

01:00:43.000 Kind of like the head of the Air Force said earlier this year in the Associated Press, he said, You know, we can't use these microwave guns because of the Geneva Convention overseas, but if we use them on American citizens first, then we can claim that they're okay and use them there.

01:00:58.000 So they're just waiting in major cities to microwave gun the public, burn your skin. 0.94

01:01:02.000 It's just totally sick. 0.68

01:01:06.000 It's just horrible.

01:01:08.000 And so, we're going to get big updates up on PrisonPlanet.com very, very soon on this subject.

01:01:17.000 It's absolutely horrible what's happening.

01:01:19.000 We all need to pray for Ed and Elaine Brown right now.

01:01:21.000 At the same time, I had my own advice that I tried to give people when the Feds were about to go in there and raid them.

01:01:29.000 I said, Feds don't do that. 0.99

01:01:31.000 Don't murder these people.

01:01:32.000 You have no right to do that.

01:01:34.000 It's also going to make them martyrs and escalate more further crises.

01:01:38.000 Cooler heads did prevail.

01:01:42.000 And then it didn't help much on our side to say, Uh, you know, for the Patriots to say, and Ed to say on air that he shoots into the woods when stuff would move, that is not a proper use of a firearm.

01:01:54.000 You better know exactly who and what you're shooting at.

01:01:57.000 And that escalated it just into a whole other level.

01:01:59.000 It did.

01:02:00.000 And, um, made it a lot harder to try to de-escalate this. 0.96

01:02:06.000 And, um, he threatened to kill those feds.

01:02:09.000 Folks, they're probably torturing him so bad right now, it's just off the charts. 0.85

01:02:13.000 That's what they do.

01:02:13.000 They live by terror.

01:02:15.000 Poor fools don't know them. 1.00

01:02:17.000 The government gives their kids deadly vaccines, too. 1.00

01:02:19.000 They drink the poison water.

01:02:20.000 They live in the corrupt system.

01:02:21.000 Their dollar's been devalued.

01:02:24.000 The very globalists that run this government are getting rid of our borders right now, getting rid of our sovereignty, but you think, well, I'll just be part of the power system and part of my own little gang, and everything will be okay.

01:02:33.000 I mean, it's not going to be okay.

01:02:35.000 It's not going to be okay.

01:02:38.000 And in my gut I know they're torturing Ed right now.

01:02:40.000 There's absolutely no doubt that's happening.

01:02:43.000 They're probably working him over so bad it just makes your head spin.

01:02:49.000 And you know, getting beaten from the studies and examples and the stories that have been told, the accounts of soldiers going back hundreds of years that I've read, North Africa, the French Foreign Legion, all of it,

01:03:04.000 Being restrained in a truck and being driven around with the diesel fumes for day after day after day, soiling yourself, only being given water, being strapped down, your feet busting open, being beaten in between, is about as bad a torture as it gets.

01:03:23.000 They're probably got plastic bags over his head.

01:03:25.000 They're probably working on him.

01:03:30.000 They don't care anymore, folks.

01:03:31.000 They just... It's all about killing America. 0.99

01:03:35.000 It's all about bringing the country down.

01:03:38.000 They're literally, the feds are literally in their own lifeboat drilling holes in the bottom of it, giggling as water sprays up.

01:03:45.000 But, you know, they'll just have to see the country destroyed by their own hands before they understand that.

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01:07:15.000 There is no doubt, the more I think about it, Ed's been captured for almost four days, up in New Hampshire, outside Plainfield, for not paying into the private federal reserve, which isn't even a law.

01:07:28.000 The feds are losing cases all over the country, by the way, the word's out, crooks.

01:07:33.000 There is no doubt.

01:07:34.000 They're probably not desaling him.

01:07:35.000 They've probably got him at a secretive federal facility.

01:07:40.000 There is no doubt that they've got FBI interrogators in there.

01:07:44.000 The FBI has been running all this the whole time, wanting people to keep their mouth shut about that, threatening people, Danny Reilly and others.

01:07:50.000 They go to prison and they talk about it.

01:07:53.000 And they are probably going overtime on him, torturing him 24 hours a day.

01:08:02.000 There is no doubt in my mind that he's being tortured.

01:08:05.000 And it could be as mild as keeping him in a chair, chained to a chair, with interrogators on six-hour shifts, nonstop talking to him.

01:08:15.000 That is one of the worst forms of torture because it's just continual and it breaks you down.

01:08:22.000 And then try to mentally break him down.

01:08:25.000 And that's very inhumane, but it's borderline.

01:08:29.000 But knowing the way these guys are, it's probably bags over the head, beatings, electricity, things that don't leave too many marks.

01:08:39.000 But sometimes they don't care.

01:08:40.000 They may have gone to town.

01:08:41.000 For all we know, there is a chance they could have beaten Ed to death.

01:08:45.000 But they wouldn't be out saying that to the media right now.

01:08:48.000 It's a small chance.

01:08:50.000 Or that he's...a little bit bigger chance that he's in really bad condition.

01:08:53.000 You know, he could be out, knocked out in a coma, in a bed for all we know.

01:08:58.000 That's why the federal government under habeas corpus has to say where people are and what they're charged with, and they have to show a chain of custody and be transparent.

01:09:10.000 You can't disappear into a black hole.

01:09:12.000 But under the Enemy Combatant Designation and the Military Commissions Act of 2006, the Feds say that if the President, Secretary of Defense, or any of his designates in Homeland Security say that you are a terrorist, then you lose your citizenship instantly under their imperial edict and can disappear into a black phantasm.

01:09:35.000 Uh, and, uh, that may have happened here.

01:09:38.000 The fact that he does not show up, and I've gone and checked on the computer myself, in the Bureau of Prisons Registry, and the fact that phone calls are, and it is a holiday today, but there are feds still staffed at all these places, we need to call the Concord paper, we need to call the Plainfield paper, we need to call the local TV stations, the, the AP bureaus, And I can't do that.

01:10:01.000 I'm on air right now.

01:10:02.000 You need to do that, listeners, and call me back and tell them, hey, this guy's disappeared.

01:10:06.000 They won't say where he is.

01:10:07.000 That's a big issue. 1.00

01:10:08.000 And talk to these reporters like they're dumb, because most of them aren't really stupid. 0.99

01:10:11.000 Go, hey, habeas corpus, due process, federal regulations and laws. 0.99

01:10:15.000 We're supposed to say where he is.

01:10:16.000 this: why is Elaine at Danbury, Connecticut, prisoner number 03924-049, and why don't we have Ed Brown enrolled?

01:10:31.000 Why hasn't that happened?

01:10:34.000 Okay, this is very serious.

01:10:38.000 And see, these were people's lives we were talking about here.

01:10:42.000 I mean, Ed may have wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, and his wife may have been consigned to that, and their back was against the wall.

01:10:52.000 I understand why they did what they did, and you can only admire the courage.

01:10:56.000 But do we want to start a civil war?

01:10:59.000 Do we want to get violent?

01:11:01.000 I mean, is that the time for this?

01:11:03.000 Or are we winning all these federal cases on the income tax?

01:11:06.000 Are people waking up to the Federal Reserve?

01:11:08.000 Are 80-plus percent of Americans aware that 9-11 was an inside job at major polls?

01:11:13.000 Is the war 80-plus percent unpopular?

01:11:18.000 It just came out that Bush signed a secret executive order ordering torture, but then when his people got caught, he sent them to prison?

01:11:28.000 I mean, that is so criminal, it's just off the chart.

01:11:31.000 Alright, let's see what new developments all these callers have.

01:11:34.000 And again, this is all rumor until we can prove it.

01:11:38.000 But we appreciate them claiming that they're calling in with some intel, and I'm sure it is good information.

01:11:43.000 We just can't guarantee it.

01:11:44.000 I lean in mass.

01:11:46.000 You're on the air.

01:11:46.000 Alex.

01:11:48.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:11:49.000 I did the same thing.

01:11:51.000 I went to the Bureau of Prisons.

01:11:53.000 It shows Ed Brown as being registered or enrolled.

01:11:58.000 But on Elaine, I mean, Elaine is registered, but Ed isn't.

01:12:03.000 Now on Ed, it has a release date of the same as the one for Elaine, 4-30-2012.

01:12:18.000 But it shows he's not in BOP custody.

01:12:22.000 And I am going to go through and do a Freedom of Information check on this.

01:12:29.000 Okay, that's fine and dandy, but that could be six weeks.

01:12:32.000 We don't have time for that.

01:12:33.000 No, I understand.

01:12:34.000 The media needs to... But I understand in six weeks, you might actually get the chain of custody, though I doubt it.

01:12:41.000 I know.

01:12:43.000 This is government we're talking about, so I'm not expecting a whole heck of a lot.

01:12:46.000 Okay, so you went to the computer like we did, and like... Exactly.

01:12:49.000 Sean Kradish did, and got the same thing.

01:12:53.000 They're just saying he's in a black hole, basically.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, basically.

01:12:56.000 They're saying, well, you know, he's not in our custody, so we don't know where he is.

01:13:01.000 Well, the headline is, Ed Brown on the loose!

01:13:04.000 See, I mean, if they won't tell us where he is, then I guess Ed Brown's either dead, or on the loose, or maybe space aliens abducted him.

01:13:10.000 Eileen, anything else?

01:13:12.000 No, that was it, Alex.

01:13:13.000 Okay, Mike.

01:13:14.000 That could be more helpful.

01:13:15.000 No, no, thank you.

01:13:16.000 Keep checking.

01:13:16.000 That's just more verification.

01:13:17.000 Uh, Michael in Indiana, you're on the air.

01:13:21.000 Hello?

01:13:23.000 Yes, sir, go ahead.

01:13:24.000 Well, yeah, I looked up some information on this and I found a place that said, this guy says, I found that Ed is in transit to the Elkhorn facility in Ohio.

01:13:36.000 It says that that's the reason the locator comes up with not in BOP custody.

01:13:42.000 In transit?

01:13:43.000 We've heard he could be in transit to, quote, Ohio.

01:13:47.000 Right.

01:13:48.000 Well, what worries me is that I went to, uh, I went to refresh the page and find the website again because I wanted to give you the address.

01:13:56.000 It's gone!

01:13:59.000 And where specifically in Ohio?

01:14:01.000 Elkhorn.

01:14:02.000 Elkhorn.

01:14:03.000 E-L-K-C-O-N. 1.00

01:14:06.000 Well, that's our new industry.

01:14:07.000 Not building cars or making computers or having jobs.

01:14:10.000 Just prisons everywhere and pot-bellied goons ruling over us. 0.91

01:14:16.000 Amazing.

01:14:17.000 What do you think of this whole situation, Michael?

01:14:20.000 Well, I think that all of us should be so lucky to have somebody this concerned.

01:14:26.000 You know, I hope that as many are concerned about me when they come and get me.

01:14:33.000 Exactly, that's what I've been thinking about.

01:14:34.000 I mean, folks, I mean, the black hole, this is horrible.

01:14:38.000 You know, you see yellow police line do not cross crime scene in front of my shop.

01:14:43.000 You know, Something happened.

01:14:47.000 And it certainly wasn't a criminal on my side.

01:14:51.000 I hear you.

01:14:51.000 I appreciate your call.

01:14:52.000 Look, that's how tyranny rules, is by fear.

01:14:55.000 And Alexander Shultz and Nietzsche talked about physically fighting back when they had grabbed, like, half the population of a Russian city and were grabbing people every night.

01:15:03.000 And if it ever comes to that, just arresting everyone, putting everybody in camps, see, we're such tyranny now, it's radical to say we have a right and a duty to fight back.

01:15:11.000 But at this point, waking people up, the system being discredited, I mean, if they try to go to martial law now without violent provocations, they're not going to get away with it.

01:15:19.000 They need violent provocations.

01:15:21.000 We don't want that.

01:15:23.000 And the rank-and-file Fed doesn't want that.

01:15:26.000 And some of them are like Joe Bannister.

01:15:27.000 They're not all, you know, little conceited, wannabe tough guy, Cobra Commander types.

01:15:33.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Thomas in Georgia.

01:15:35.000 You're on the air, Thomas.

01:15:37.000 Hi, Alex.

01:15:37.000 How are you doing?

01:15:39.000 Yeah, I wanted to admit, I did said time, I got indicted and arrested in 1997 in November.

01:15:46.000 So I have a little bit of understanding on how they work.

01:15:50.000 The federal, you know, the U.S.

01:15:51.000 Marshals, etc.

01:15:52.000 Okay, tell us.

01:15:54.000 You know, the number he gave, Elaine's number is probably her United States Marshal number.

01:15:59.000 That kind of sticks with you.

01:16:00.000 The last three digits probably have to do with the area she got convicted in.

01:16:04.000 The district?

01:16:05.000 The district, yes.

01:16:08.000 I got convicted in South Carolina.

01:16:10.000 They used a task force that was for drugs.

01:16:14.000 A lot of times they use local task force, which is city, local, county, DEA involved.

01:16:24.000 They take their time indicting you.

01:16:25.000 They leave you in county jails for a long time before they'll ever, you know, it can take, depending on how many co-defendants you have, it can take a year for them to do their investigation while you sit without bond.

01:16:38.000 And de-slinging him, they could be moving him from county jail to county jail because the feds have contracts with various cities and counties to put their detainees or their prisoners, depending on if they've been convicted yet or not, which is the difference between a detainee and a prisoner.

01:16:55.000 And they'll move them from county to county, from city to city.

01:16:59.000 Sometimes you mess with them psychologically as soon as you get adjusted because it is kind of a big deal when you're in that position.

01:17:07.000 You know, if you do get settled in a county jail for a little while, you know, for them to up and move you, well, if they do this every 24 hours, 36 hours, you know, that can be a form, you know, of torture or whatever or, you know, trying to make them comply or them trying to get even with Ed or, you know, however they're looking upon the situation.

01:17:28.000 Well, you obviously weren't dieseled.

01:17:30.000 Diesel is where they don't even get you off.

01:17:34.000 They just keep driving.

01:17:35.000 No, I've heard about it and I've talked to inmates about it.

01:17:38.000 I did time in Edgefield, South Carolina at a federal camp.

01:17:42.000 Because you were using or selling the products the feds control and ship in.

01:17:47.000 Yeah, well I've since learned that.

01:17:48.000 This happened ten years ago.

01:17:50.000 No, but I mean it's just another sick joke.

01:17:53.000 No, I agree.

01:17:54.000 I've listened to you for about five years and I'm quite aware of what's going on.

01:17:58.000 I went to Falwell's Neocon Liberty University and Actually said something when I graduated in May of 05.

01:18:05.000 He was the last hand you shook during the commencement and I said we needed to discuss the New World Order because I took a picture of you and I had about two seconds and he gave me a horrible look and I just kept going.

01:18:15.000 But I'm well aware of what's going on around the world and here with the police state 9-11 and it's very discouraging in the economy.

01:18:25.000 Yep.

01:18:26.000 You know, I know now about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

01:18:28.000 I didn't know when they arrested you, but I mean, the Fourth Amendment, there was none with my case.

01:18:33.000 Did they get you to plea bargain?

01:18:35.000 Of course.

01:18:36.000 You know, I had a lawyer.

01:18:37.000 My parents got me a lawyer.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, of course I plea bargained.

01:18:40.000 Now I realize I'm 35 now, not 25.

01:18:43.000 You know, I realize.

01:18:46.000 Hey, listen, I really appreciate you, my friend.

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01:23:02.000 Jim Brossard, the man who cut down the Mexican flag flying above the American flag in Reno.

01:23:12.000 It's going to be popping in for about 10 minutes in the next segment.

01:23:15.000 Then I'm going to get into all the other news.

01:23:17.000 On the dollar, big developments there.

01:23:19.000 The police state, cell phones and children.

01:23:22.000 Very important information coming up and I will cover it all.

01:23:26.000 Right now, Mary in West Virginia, you're on the air talking about the Ed and Elaine Brown case.

01:23:31.000 Ed in a black hole somewhere.

01:23:35.000 Your phone's really bad.

01:23:37.000 How's that?

01:23:38.000 Just talk right into it.

01:23:39.000 Alright, can you hear me okay?

01:23:40.000 Yeah, just go ahead.

01:23:41.000 Alright, I want to challenge you, Alex.

01:23:45.000 I simply want you to name me a country in Europe.

01:23:48.000 If there's a person in the United States, and because he's gotten the local, or let's say the state government mad at him, and they're part of the New World Order, and they can control things, where he travels and stuff in the United States, he can't get a good job, he can't do this, he can't do that.

01:24:05.000 It's bad enough.

01:24:07.000 He's been attacked, okay, in various places in the United States.

01:24:11.000 And nothing ever comes of it when he goes to the cops.

01:24:13.000 If he wants to go to Europe, because he can't live in the United States and be happy and have a life, what one country do you think he would have the least trouble in?

01:24:24.000 You know, I really... I mean, I've looked at other countries.

01:24:27.000 They're all under similar police state systems.

01:24:30.000 But a lot of times, though, you go somewhere new and lie low, you won't get back in their sights there.

01:24:35.000 But that's what the New World Order is about. 0.67

01:24:36.000 It's about internationalizing, where now you have a $50 fine misdemeanor, and you can't go to Canada because you're in a terror database the FBI puts you in.

01:24:47.000 I mean, that's mainstream news today.

01:24:51.000 I've been to Europe.

01:24:53.000 I used to go there every year.

01:24:54.000 I was attacked in England.

01:24:56.000 There were American intelligence, military intelligence.

01:25:00.000 They were hovering around.

01:25:01.000 I was attacked there.

01:25:03.000 When I went to Ireland, they left me alone pretty well, but they still did listen.

01:25:07.000 They're working through the local police to tell them stories about me.

01:25:10.000 Sure, ma'am.

01:25:11.000 I appreciate your call.

01:25:13.000 Tell them stories about you.

01:25:17.000 Again, it's a global police state, ma'am, so it sounds like you know more about Europe than I do.

01:25:21.000 I mean, Switzerland, they'll let you in if you've got enough money.

01:25:25.000 Places like that have pretty high standards of liberty and freedom.

01:25:30.000 But it's all getting bad, okay?

01:25:33.000 Alrighty then.

01:25:34.000 Mark in Texas.

01:25:35.000 Mark, you're on the air.

01:25:36.000 Go ahead.

01:25:37.000 Alex!

01:25:38.000 Yes.

01:25:39.000 How are you doing?

01:25:40.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:25:40.000 Good.

01:25:42.000 Alright, what I'm doing is I'm working on waking people up to the fluoridation problem.

01:25:49.000 And I've got a Freedom From Fluoride site on meetup.com and in an effort to do that, what I've started is a project, it's a call to action, it's a protest fluoride video project.

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01:26:09.000 Now I've got some underground animations that I found from the Underground Fluoride Network where there's a gorilla telling you the fluoride facts and there's these two girls telling you fluoride facts and if you go to meetup.com and just put in safe water or just safe, my group is Freedom From Fluoride.

01:26:32.000 And you can see the underground videos there on the homepage.

01:26:36.000 I hear you.

01:26:36.000 I appreciate your call.

01:26:37.000 I'm trying to find out about Ed and Elaine Brown.

01:26:39.000 That's why we opened the phones up earlier to find out if anybody has any information.

01:26:43.000 People are out calling, checking into things.

01:26:45.000 We do a lot of fluoride shows, sir.

01:26:47.000 We also have open phones routinely, so you can call in about any subject you want.

01:26:51.000 Yeah, there are thousands of different groups on the web fighting the fact that fluoride's deadly poison.

01:26:56.000 The head of the Canadian Bureau that got fluoride put in 10 or so years ago has now apologized in non-public and says he was wrong.

01:27:04.000 It's deadly poison.

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01:27:22.000 It's a toxic waste, so there's all these other cocktails and heavy metals and things in it.

01:27:26.000 It is a huge story, and I'm glad you're fighting it, but right now we're trying to help the Browns, trying to find out what's happening to them.

01:27:34.000 Matt in South Carolina, you're on the air.

01:27:36.000 Hey, Alex, can you hear me?

01:27:36.000 Go ahead.

01:27:40.000 Okay, Alex, I'm calling because I'm very, very upset with the movement right now.

01:27:40.000 I sure can.

01:27:46.000 How everyone's pointing fingers about you're a Zionist Jew, Dave von Kleist is a Zionist Jew, and Jason Bermas is a Jew, and Mossad.

01:27:55.000 You know what people in this movement need to do is stop pointing fingers because COINTELPRO is very effective at the moment.

01:28:02.000 It's working right now, sir.

01:28:05.000 It's working right now.

01:28:07.000 It's working right now.

01:28:08.000 I appreciate your call.

01:28:09.000 Don't you understand that's how it works?

01:28:12.000 They go out and they say something about somebody, then they defend themselves instead of covering issues.

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01:31:47.000 The answer is at 1-800-686-2237. - Jim Rossert is our guest.

01:32:12.000 Last week, he saw a Mexican flag.

01:32:16.000 There's photos of it up on the web all over the place and up on our websites.

01:32:21.000 Flying above the American flag, and local media had already been talking about it, and when the TV crew got out there, he was there and had cut it down, and was saying he wasn't going to give it back.

01:32:33.000 And people said, some people said on our message boards, well, you know, that's free speech!

01:32:38.000 And, whereas I agree it is, the point is that all over the country, the illegal aliens are flying their Mexican flags, they're saying this is Mexico, Uh, they're desecrating the American flag, flying it above it. 0.65

01:32:53.000 So I understand why he did this.

01:32:55.000 And the illegal aliens are going around to post offices and public schools and cutting the Stars and Stripes down. 1.00

01:33:03.000 And they don't ever get in trouble for that.

01:33:06.000 And stomping on them.

01:33:07.000 We list all these examples in the article we wrote for Infowars.net.

01:33:12.000 So, uh, it's just amazing what happened.

01:33:19.000 I hear in the case of what's going on there in Northern Nevada.

01:33:24.000 I appreciate you coming on with us sir.

01:33:27.000 Thank you for having me Alex.

01:33:29.000 Jim, I mean I know in a three minute newscast we miss a lot of what actually developed.

01:33:35.000 When did you first learn about this and from your own perspective what happened?

01:33:39.000 I first learned about this, Alex, listening to KOH Talk Radio with Bill Manders.

01:33:45.000 He had a talk show host on there.

01:33:48.000 That lady came on and was very distraught about the fact that our Stars and Stripes was being one-upped by the Mexican flag and nobody was doing anything. 0.55

01:34:00.000 Now, you're a Vietnam veteran, correct?

01:34:03.000 Yes, sir.

01:34:03.000 U.S.

01:34:04.000 Army.

01:34:04.000 And, I mean, it's universal.

01:34:06.000 Even folks that weren't in the military know what it means to fly your flag above another one.

01:34:10.000 Yes.

01:34:11.000 Yes.

01:34:12.000 We have a nation of people that are patriotic.

01:34:18.000 However, it seems that unfortunately in this day and age, we've, not we being us, but some of the people have lost their patriotism and the The actual importance of that flag and what it stands for.

01:34:35.000 Well, the individual that put it up said he, quote, did it for the Hispanic community.

01:34:39.000 A, the majority of Hispanic Americans are against the illegal alien invasion, almost 70% in Gallup polls, but he means the illegal alien invaders who openly say this is Mexico, and so this is a foreigner affront to our country. 0.97

01:34:55.000 Can you walk through?

01:34:56.000 Please continue.

01:34:58.000 Yes, sir.

01:34:58.000 I immediately I knew that it was going to be something that I was going to do as far as relieving the American flag from the disgrace that it was placed in.

01:35:11.000 I went out to my safe and I retrieved the tool.

01:35:17.000 The best tool for the job was the Iraqi Freedom U.S.

01:35:21.000 Army commemorative knife and I took that with me to to the location and upon arriving I saw that there was a camera on scene and I I thought well you know whatever happens is going to happen because I'm I am definitely going to do the honor to my country and remove that flag from the disgraceful position that has been placed in

01:35:50.000 Um, I parked my car a couple doors down, let the motor run, and I walked up, uh, shielding the knife from other people's views as the Spanish poured from the two buildings. 0.74

01:36:01.000 Uh, I ignored them.

01:36:03.000 Uh, they asked me what's happening.

01:36:06.000 I said, you're gonna see what's happening.

01:36:08.000 And, uh, I went over and cut the anchor on the flag, uh, makeshift flagpole, a piece of pipe up the side of a building.

01:36:15.000 And proceeded to reel the flags in and I cut the cord that kept the American flag with the Mexican flag and I let the Mexican flag fall at my feet.

01:36:30.000 I turned the camera and it made its way over to where I was and I gave him a short insurmisis and I walked on without any challenge whatsoever.

01:36:43.000 I left.

01:36:46.000 What about your statement that you wanted them to come and fight you for?

01:36:48.000 I mean, I understand what you're saying.

01:36:50.000 This is a military operation.

01:36:51.000 This is saying, this is Mexico, this is ours.

01:36:54.000 And you're saying, hey buddy, you gotta fight for that.

01:36:56.000 Yes, exactly.

01:36:58.000 They have taken, uh, actually think, uh, that they have actually taken something from us, uh, when in reality they're trespassing and, and, uh, and they're a disgrace to their own race and their own country. 0.57

01:37:15.000 Well, all I know... They being the illegals and the supporters of the illegals, I am certainly not talking about the Hispanic people. 1.00

01:37:22.000 I am talking about the people who would support the illegals coming to our country and the people who are the illegals. 0.96

01:37:32.000 Well, here's the bottom line.

01:37:33.000 Here's the bottom line.

01:37:34.000 The country's already bankrupt.

01:37:35.000 The dollar's being devalued.

01:37:37.000 Everything's falling apart.

01:37:38.000 We have giant third world hordes, on average, who take up more than double what they actually pay in taxes. 1.00

01:37:44.000 The government's there to put them on the welfare gland. 0.97

01:37:48.000 They're there to get them into the system.

01:37:50.000 The globalists want their North American Union, and they're using illegal aliens as their cannon fodder.

01:37:56.000 Yes, and this is a total assault on our country, and our reaction has been to just stand by and watch this happen.

01:38:04.000 Now my question is, are we going to continue to stand by, or are we going to reach out and start doing something about this?

01:38:12.000 Because there's more of us than there are of them, but for some reason, they're getting away with it.

01:38:17.000 Well, look, the bottom line is this.

01:38:21.000 We have to ask ourselves, do we still want to be the U.S., or do we want it to die on the altar of the New World Order?

01:38:26.000 It's not going to be Mexico. 0.97

01:38:27.000 It's going to be a mixture, third world police state, and even if you're an illegal alien, you ought to know that's not going to be good in the end. 0.96

01:38:38.000 The big corporations in the U.S.

01:38:40.000 are pushing this, and have you seen And again, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking to Jim Brossard.

01:38:48.000 And Jim, last week, cut down the Mexican flag that was above the American flag there in Reno, Nevada.

01:38:54.000 For people that just joined us, just to recap that, at the bottom of the story we wrote, Steve Watson wrote for Infowars.net, Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag.

01:39:06.000 may be charged, because that day they were saying they may go after him.

01:39:09.000 Lena, resident, custom Mexican flag flying above U.S. flag after outcry.

01:39:13.000 At the bottom of the story, we have all the examples of it happening in Maywood, California, Tucson, Arizona, Jupiter, Florida...

01:39:22.000 I mean, it's happened a bunch in California and Arizona, where the illegals run up the post offices, run up the schools, jerk the American flag down, stomp it, rip it, and then run up the Mexican flag.

01:39:33.000 I mean, this is a vicious military style, and they know what they're doing. 0.95

01:39:37.000 Hatred of this country.

01:39:38.000 It's saying, we're going to destroy your country.

01:39:40.000 I mean, and then the media's like, oh, they're wonderful people, but just want to be Americans.

01:39:47.000 You know, the media is our worst enemy.

01:39:49.000 They have gotten us in the position that we're in.

01:39:52.000 And because they're sensationalists, all they care about is the story.

01:39:57.000 And they don't care about their own nation.

01:40:01.000 Well, did you hear about the media?

01:40:03.000 And it was not Mexican owned, by the way, out in California.

01:40:06.000 Putting up 600 plus, it was close to 700 signs in California.

01:40:11.000 is now Mexico.

01:40:11.000 L.A.

01:40:13.000 Yes.

01:40:14.000 I mean, this is, I mean, I live here in Austin, and I grew up with all my Mexican friends.

01:40:19.000 I wasn't looking over my shoulder, Karen.

01:40:21.000 And now, you know, my wife grew up and lived in Spain and in Italy, so she speaks fluent Spanish.

01:40:25.000 She drives around going, look at that on that store, look what that says. 1.00

01:40:28.000 She listens to Mexican radio, gets blown away by it.

01:40:31.000 It's like, we're taking over, ha ha ha, you'll be defeated.

01:40:34.000 And I don't, I mean, look, I'm not going to be, I'm supposed to just sit here and act like it's not happening?

01:40:38.000 Yeah, apparently that's what the bleeding heart liberals would have us do. 0.99

01:40:42.000 And they are also our enemies.

01:40:45.000 The enemies of this country are not anything other than our own people who are standing by and trying to feel sorry for the illegal aliens. 1.00

01:40:59.000 Who, of any race, that are coming in and filtrating our country. 1.00

01:41:04.000 When I was in the U.S.

01:41:05.000 military, if somebody had filtrated our country like this, it was an act of war and we would have handled it. 0.66

01:41:10.000 Now what has happened to our country to cause us to stand by and allow our system to be broken down?

01:41:19.000 We have people driving without licenses and insurance, hitting people and running.

01:41:23.000 We have people shooting and knifing innocent people.

01:41:27.000 Our health care system has taken a complete dump.

01:41:30.000 Hey, it's bankrupt!

01:41:31.000 Go back to two, three months ago, the amnesty bill.

01:41:35.000 I read the sections on air.

01:41:38.000 It said aggravated felony legal aliens get a pardon and five years of no income taxes.

01:41:46.000 Good Lord.

01:41:47.000 I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.

01:41:49.000 It's a red carpet to these people.

01:41:52.000 Wow.

01:41:54.000 What does our government think they're achieving?

01:41:56.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:41:57.000 I mean, I would have gone out and shown it and shown the disgrace and then let it build and let the anger build.

01:42:03.000 It would have had a bigger effect.

01:42:04.000 I don't blame you.

01:42:05.000 In fact, I salute you for the courage it took because, you know, it's People aren't criticizing the illegals when they cut down American flags, and this is America.

01:42:14.000 But at the same time, I probably would have done it different, because I know what would have caused the most damage to these America haters.

01:42:21.000 But, I understand and salute what you did.

01:42:24.000 And I don't get our own listeners on our message boards going, it's the free speech, this is foreigners in our country desecrating our nation. 1.00

01:42:34.000 I'll tell you who they are. 0.99

01:42:34.000 They're Blade Night Liberals, and they're sitting in the comfort of their own home and listening to drive-by media, and they're believing this crap that they're hearing. 0.99

01:42:43.000 And these people have not had their identities stolen, okay? 0.95

01:42:50.000 They're probably living in an income bracket where they're not feeling the pinch medically, and they have total Disregard for what is in front of them.

01:43:04.000 You know, when they'll wake up is when this whole thing just turns upside down.

01:43:09.000 Well, all I'm saying is, I understand why they say free speech.

01:43:11.000 A lot of them aren't liberals or libertarians.

01:43:14.000 But the point is, you've got to talk real world.

01:43:16.000 You've got a bunch of illegals milling around celebrating.

01:43:19.000 That's what's on the news.

01:43:20.000 You've got them praising their flag above the American flag.

01:43:24.000 It is a direct insult, a direct vicious assault, and it's not an American doing it. 0.67

01:43:31.000 Then also, there should never be any lack of freedom of speech.

01:43:35.000 But when it involves a flag assembly, that's not freedom of speech.

01:43:40.000 What they are doing is an act of war.

01:43:42.000 That's not a freedom of speech symbol.

01:43:44.000 That is an act of war symbol.

01:43:45.000 People don't understand, though, that there is international... I mean, the first laws were based on flags.

01:43:50.000 They're symbols.

01:43:51.000 And it's saying something.

01:43:52.000 And it's saying, we declare war on you, and you're a veteran, you know what it means.

01:43:56.000 The public doesn't know what that means.

01:43:59.000 It means we're going to bring your country down.

01:44:01.000 This is Mexico. 1.00

01:44:02.000 We hate you. 0.97

01:44:04.000 But why is that Alex?

01:44:05.000 I think it's because we have so many people that are numbed to the things that are going on in today's society.

01:44:13.000 There's so much strife.

01:44:16.000 There's the child pornography.

01:44:19.000 You know, and where does all that come from?

01:44:21.000 It comes from lack of priorities, lack of integrity.

01:44:27.000 How has the integrity been breached? 0.99

01:44:31.000 Well, you know, the homosexuals are just normal sexual people. 0.99

01:44:31.000 What happened? 0.99

01:44:37.000 No, that's not normal. 0.51

01:44:38.000 There's nothing normal about homosexuality. 1.00

01:44:41.000 It is a perversion. 0.99

01:44:42.000 It is an act of perversion.

01:44:43.000 And quite simply, it's a breakdown of our belief system.

01:44:49.000 Well, sir, I'll say this.

01:44:50.000 I'll say this.

01:44:51.000 That, along with many more things, Alex, has broken down and numbed the people where they don't react when something like this happens.

01:44:59.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:45:00.000 The public has certainly been numbed, and I understand your anger at what happened here, but I would add, you see, bleeding-heart liberals, George Bush is for blanket, complete amnesty.

01:45:09.000 Oh my God.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, that couldn't be more wrong.

01:45:13.000 I mean, that's my point, is that both parties... And I love George Bush.

01:45:16.000 I love our president.

01:45:17.000 But that couldn't be more wrong.

01:45:19.000 And I, you know, and I completely agree.

01:45:22.000 I mean, you're a conservative.

01:45:24.000 How have you been numbed?

01:45:26.000 Do you, like, still accept that Bush tripled the size of the BATF, openly wants amnesty, trying to ram it through?

01:45:34.000 I mean, we have to address these issues.

01:45:38.000 Yes, we do.

01:45:39.000 And we need to face the people like Harry Reid and those people that are on his side because he's the deterioration of our country.

01:45:51.000 He's leading the deterioration of our country.

01:45:54.000 Jim Brossard, I appreciate you coming on the show and I understand why you did what you did.

01:45:59.000 I'm glad it didn't end violently.

01:46:01.000 I'm glad someone didn't come out to fight you there.

01:46:04.000 - Yes, I am too.

01:46:05.000 - But at the same time, the media-- - I'm not a violent person, but I wouldn't have backed down. - I understand.

01:46:10.000 The fact is that we need to hear the same outcry.

01:46:15.000 You know, all these people are upset that you pulled down a Mexican flag What about how the American flag keeps getting pulled down?

01:46:21.000 I encourage all people to act in the manner in which I did, and it's not improper, and if it is unlawful, what about all the laws that are being broken by the illegals?

01:46:34.000 What about those?

01:46:35.000 And what about the fact that these flags were in support of those?

01:46:42.000 Don't these people feel anything for their own countrymen that are having their identities stolen?

01:46:49.000 I know it's very serious.

01:46:50.000 Thank you for coming on with us, Jimmy.

01:46:53.000 You haven't heard from the police?

01:46:55.000 Yes, I have.

01:46:56.000 Reno Police did respond.

01:46:59.000 They simply wanted to make sure that I wasn't some violent person that was going to do anything else, and I assured them that that certainly wasn't the case.

01:47:07.000 Did they call you or come out to your place?

01:47:09.000 They came to my place, left a card on my door, and I responded on the phone and talked to the Sergeant in the Detective's Division.

01:47:17.000 Very nice man.

01:47:20.000 Understood what my point was.

01:47:23.000 I did say that there could be charges if that person chose to file them and that the Hispanic leaders of the community were trying to encourage them to do so, but of course it doesn't appear like that's happened.

01:47:38.000 I do have information for a...

01:47:44.000 I have information for a support for Jim Brossard Freedom Fund.

01:47:50.000 If somebody wanted to, that way I have something to access if something happens.

01:47:56.000 Is that a website or an address?

01:47:58.000 No, it's actually, I haven't got my website set up.

01:48:02.000 I'm not sure how to do that, so I'm learning all of this stuff, but I set up a bank account that will be solely utilized for the Well, if we hear about you getting arrested or in trouble, it'll do the Jim Brossard Freedom Fund, and that's in Reno, Nevada?

01:48:19.000 Yeah, with U.S.

01:48:20.000 Bank.

01:48:21.000 Okay, fine.

01:48:22.000 And if you want, I have the routing number and account number.

01:48:25.000 I can give you that.

01:48:26.000 Sure, give it out.

01:48:28.000 Okay.

01:48:29.000 Routing number is 121201694.

01:48:30.000 is 1212-01694.

01:48:36.000 Account number is 1537-5280-1552.

01:48:46.000 And that's with U.S. Bank, Reno, Nevada, 5150 Mayenne Avenue, Reno, Nevada, 890.

01:48:57.000 Well, listen, if you get arrested, which is unlikely, then people can support you.

01:49:03.000 This wouldn't just be for that.

01:49:05.000 This is actually the further I'm going to keep fighting.

01:49:08.000 I'm trying to move on this and keep this.

01:49:12.000 This needs to be a movement, not just with me, but it needs to incorporate others.

01:49:17.000 I hear you.

01:49:17.000 We've got to go to break.

01:49:18.000 I really appreciate you coming on, Jim.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:49:21.000 You bet.

01:49:21.000 Take care.

01:49:23.000 Folks, nice fella, but there's an example of how he's completely blinded by the left-right paradigm.

01:49:31.000 He loves George Bush, but George Bush is the one dismantling this country as a puppet for the globalists, and Hillary will follow in the exact same footsteps. 0.98

01:49:38.000 She'll do the exact same thing, and then suddenly the left will love her, and then suddenly, it's just, they keep playing us like fools. 0.90

01:49:45.000 I'm just glad that didn't end violent.

01:49:47.000 I'm gonna come back, get into a bunch of other news, and then more of your phone calls.

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01:53:06.000 We've gotten quite a few reports from multiple listeners that they found in Ed Brown in a federal prison in Kentucky.

01:53:15.000 Ashland, Kentucky.

01:53:16.000 But that shows him getting out in 2017 on his current conviction instead of 2012 when he supposedly gets out.

01:53:25.000 So that's probably another Ed Brown.

01:53:26.000 We're trying to track that down and confirm that right now.

01:53:29.000 More of your calls coming up in the next hour.

01:53:31.000 Let me right now get into the dollar news as we continue to track this.

01:53:35.000 Don't forget, in-game blueprint for global enslavement, the new world order master plan to exterminate 80% of humanity.

01:53:42.000 And by the way, for all the feds and people listening, That means you later.

01:53:46.000 That means after more terror attacks, more control, more constrictions over the next few decades, maybe even sooner, controlled bioweapons releases.

01:53:55.000 Just remember who did it to you.

01:53:57.000 Remember who your bosses are later.

01:53:59.000 And as soon as you find out about your paycheck being worth half of what it was, that hasn't fully come into effect yet.

01:54:05.000 Usually with inflation, it shows up a few years after.

01:54:08.000 Now we're starting to hit that point.

01:54:10.000 Just remember, we didn't do that.

01:54:12.000 Your bosses did.

01:54:16.000 Because the New World Order is real.

01:54:17.000 I know your federal training manuals say it doesn't exist, but we happen to have all the memoirs in the New World Order where they admit it all.

01:54:25.000 Congressman, dollar could collapse to absolute zero.

01:54:29.000 Presidential candidate Ron Paul warns of coming global economic depression.

01:54:35.000 And he said that it could collapse to zero.

01:54:38.000 It's already collapsed by 62% in value against the euro.

01:54:42.000 And then I was reading some of the Digg comments and it says, no one is above fear-mongering. 0.92

01:54:49.000 And other message boards are saying, oh, that's ridiculous, the dollar's not being devalued, oh, that's just more of those twofers, more of those crazy libertarians. 0.63

01:55:01.000 It's big headlines the last few years, all over Europe, all over Asia, all over the Middle East, all over Latin America.

01:55:07.000 Just a few years ago, the Canadian loonie was at 65 cents to the dollar.

01:55:11.000 Now it's worth more than a dollar.

01:55:13.000 Listen to me.

01:55:15.000 This is a big deal.

01:55:16.000 You're being robbed.

01:55:19.000 Here's the headline today.

01:55:20.000 Golf Funds drift away from the dollar due by asset diversification by the Gulf sovereign wealth funds and the probability that the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, OPEC, will change the pricing of oil from the dollar to another currency could mean more trouble for the dollar.

01:55:36.000 And Saudi Arabia is already moving away from the dollar, not pegging their currency to the dollar.

01:55:41.000 Venezuela has dumped it.

01:55:42.000 A whole bunch of Asian countries dumped it last week.

01:55:46.000 And you got the neocons, a month ago we wrote a story about this and they were on the message board going, on the Dig comment section going, you're trying to destroy the economy, shut up, it's not a problem, George Bush is good.

01:56:00.000 George Bush runs nothing.

01:56:01.000 Okay, when the Federal Reserve a month ago came out, three weeks ago, and said the dollar is going to plunge, it started plunging even more.

01:56:07.000 They're trying to kill it.

01:56:09.000 What can't you understand?

01:56:10.000 Your savings, everything.

01:56:14.000 The feds don't care, they're just... I'm glad we're arrested, Ed Brown.

01:56:18.000 Yeah.

01:56:19.000 Our government loves us.

01:56:21.000 Everything's fine.

01:56:23.000 Oh yeah? 1.00

01:56:23.000 You've had half your value robbed out of your account, you idiots. 1.00

01:56:27.000 This is so stupid! 1.00

01:56:28.000 The Newell Order's our enemy! 1.00

01:56:29.000 Can't you figure that out?

01:56:31.000 They're the ones destroying the country!

01:56:35.000 Asset diversification by the Gulf Sovereign Wealth Funds, the possibility the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries will change the pricing of oil from the dollar to other currency, could mean more trouble for the dollar.

01:56:45.000 The dollar has been losing its charm as a reserve currency due to its persistent weakness against a host of other international currencies.

01:56:52.000 The September non-farm payrolls report Friday showed 110,000 jobs were created in the U.S.

01:56:59.000 last month, although the dollar reacted positively to the news and gained initially, the rally quickly fizzled.

01:57:06.000 Amid the dollar's free fall following a half percent interest rate cut in September, Qatar last week paid another 50 billion sovereign wealth funds, cut its exposure to the dollar by more than half to about 40 percent of its portfolio.

01:57:20.000 Alert!

01:57:21.000 Danger, Will Robertson!

01:57:22.000 Danger! 1.00

01:57:23.000 Meanwhile, the yuppies are going, Shut up! 1.00

01:57:25.000 It's a conspiracy theory! 1.00

01:57:27.000 It doesn't exist!

01:57:29.000 Everything's fine!

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01:57:38.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:38.000 Big Brother.

01:57:39.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:39.000 776.45. Big Brother. Mainstream media.

01:57:51.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:53.000 You want answers?

01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:56.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Later in the show, we'll open the phones up.

01:58:09.000 I know we've got Tens of thousands of our millions of listeners out there scouring the Federal Registries, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Larry Becraft, constitutional lawyer, top of his class, expert on the New World Order, joining us in 30 minutes to talk about the Ed and Elaine Brown seizure.

01:58:26.000 Brown in a black hole somewhere. 0.96

01:58:28.000 Elaine is in Connecticut in a federal women's prison in Danbury.

01:58:34.000 We don't know where Ed is, no doubt being tortured with an inch of his life.

01:58:37.000 That's standard operating procedure for this criminal government.

01:58:42.000 Oh, man.

01:58:44.000 It's just a bad situation.

01:58:45.000 I was just talking about the dollar and how a bunch of the, well, not a bunch, all the Gulf states are moving rapidly away from the dollar.

01:58:55.000 In the last month, on average, they dumped more than 20% of their funds in dollars.

01:59:03.000 There is a mass exodus happening right now.

01:59:06.000 The country, if it was a B-17 Stratofortress, is on fire. 0.99

01:59:11.000 The crew is dead.

01:59:12.000 It's smoking, plunging downward. 0.81

01:59:15.000 Meanwhile, illegal aliens are running around waving Mexican flags.

01:59:18.000 Feds are running around arresting citizens for crooked toenails, young kids for marijuana, the government shipping in masses of narcotics, money laundering, criminality, wall-to-wall, 30-plus percent of people on death row innocent, Over $4 trillion now missing from the Pentagon.

01:59:35.000 I keep saying close to $4 trillion.

01:59:36.000 It's now over $4 trillion.

01:59:38.000 Just massive corruption everywhere.

01:59:40.000 Derivatives over $100 plus trillion dollars.

01:59:45.000 Just total la la land in the financial markets.

01:59:49.000 And the globalist answer is gearing up with massive police state crackdown models, huge FEMA camps, openly announcing they may set up martial law, forced inoculations.

01:59:58.000 I mean, we're just total fruitcake land.

02:00:02.000 We have now entered total fruitcake land.

02:00:05.000 And the yuppies have no idea.

02:00:06.000 They're running around talking about their favorite sports team, running around just mindlessly gibbering like monkeys.

02:00:13.000 And I mean, I don't even know what to say right now.

02:00:16.000 I cannot describe to you how bad it is.

02:00:20.000 I cannot describe to you how insane it is.

02:00:23.000 They are going to butcher this country, bring us down to total third world status, and they know you're going to squeal and yell. 0.98

02:00:28.000 And if you flail, they're going to have goons pay minimum wage, beat your brains in. 0.58

02:00:33.000 And that'll probably cause fights and resistance. 0.98

02:00:38.000 There's probably no doubt that's going to happen. 0.99

02:00:40.000 And that just escalates it into hell on earth, and it's not good for anybody, except the Rothschilds and a few other scum groups. 1.00

02:00:50.000 It's more like entertainment for them to watch the destruction of this country that's always been... Enemies. 0.99

02:00:58.000 I'm a little distracted.

02:01:01.000 I just came here and said my cousin wants to call me.

02:01:03.000 That's important.

02:01:04.000 I have to call him during the break.

02:01:04.000 I don't know what that's about.

02:01:08.000 It's just... Oh gosh.

02:01:11.000 I don't know what to do anymore.

02:01:13.000 I don't know.

02:01:15.000 It's just... We had to go bad as a country.

02:01:18.000 Like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Russians. 0.92

02:01:21.000 I mean, feds and police could decide to not be part of this now and really have an awakening in your ranks, but you don't.

02:01:26.000 You watch football all the time and go home and watch Jack Bauer and fantasize and there's no real Al-Qaeda to fight, so it's going to be us.

02:01:33.000 At the end of the day, you'll have no future either.

02:01:37.000 Man.

02:01:38.000 I just can't believe it had to happen this way.

02:01:45.000 I wish we could avert all these things happening.

02:01:47.000 We get back, FBI puts anti-war protesters on criminal database.

02:01:50.000 Canada uses it to ban protesters from entry.

02:01:54.000 Shitties want cameras in our homes. 1.00

02:01:57.000 Britain on board for U.S. 0.89

02:01:59.000 airstrikes on Iran.

02:02:00.000 I'll cover that first.

02:02:04.000 Police track down deputy who stormed party, killed six people.

02:02:07.000 I'll cover that after I cover the war news.

02:02:10.000 Flickr.

02:02:11.000 It's F-L-I-C-K-R. 1.00

02:02:15.000 They got disinfo on me here.

02:02:16.000 This is how they run their ops.

02:02:18.000 I think I'll mention that.

02:02:19.000 It's because it's an education.

02:02:20.000 I don't think it's about me.

02:02:22.000 And I got a bunch of other news here too that we haven't even gotten to yet today.

02:02:30.000 So stay with us.

02:02:31.000 Cell phone towers.

02:02:33.000 Cell phones themselves frying everybody's brains.

02:02:36.000 Mainstream news.

02:02:37.000 Massive tumors exploding.

02:02:38.000 It's just unbelievable.

02:02:41.000 Stay with us.

02:02:46.000 The War on Terrorism.

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02:05:52.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:56.000 I could talk for three hours about the major Swiss, Dutch, British, American studies on what cell phone towers are doing American studies on what cell phone towers are doing to our children and what the cell phones themselves are doing to the population.

02:06:20.000 on the application.

02:06:21.000 I could talk all day about mercenaries and what they mean to our country and why Blackwater is in so much trouble.

02:06:28.000 Yeah, this is a subject I should get a bunch of scientists on about and just go through the hundreds of articles and hundreds of studies and just do weeks and weeks of this until everybody gets out of the habit of using them.

02:06:37.000 I still use cell phones.

02:06:38.000 I always lose the hands-free.

02:06:41.000 I've cut back about 95%.

02:06:42.000 I watch my family use them.

02:06:44.000 There's no doubt you get giant tumors right where you use the phone.

02:06:47.000 And I see children everywhere using it and no one's going to stop because we're weak.

02:06:54.000 And we're preconditioned that anything that could be threatening to our bodies that the government or media puts out is impossible in a conspiracy theory.

02:07:02.000 It's preconditioning.

02:07:04.000 Mobile phone cancer risk higher for children, London Telegraph.

02:07:07.000 Children should not be given mobile phones because using them for more than 10 years increases the risk of brain cancer, a leading scientist has said.

02:07:15.000 People who have used their phone for a decade are twice as likely to be diagnosed with a tumor on the nerve connecting to the ear to the brain, according to a group of scientists who have surveyed the results of 11 different studies.

02:07:28.000 Folks, it just gets worse.

02:07:29.000 I mean, I just, we're in deep trouble!

02:07:33.000 Do you know what plastic does?

02:07:36.000 Even the more expensive plastics, leach dioxin and leach female hormones, are hormones that mimic it. 0.99

02:07:44.000 And I can't stop eating out of plastic.

02:07:47.000 I can't stop eating out of paper coated in plastic.

02:07:50.000 I can't stop giving it to my children.

02:07:52.000 They don't make baby bottles without it.

02:07:55.000 I can't even stop!

02:07:59.000 I'm mad at myself! 1.00

02:08:00.000 We're idiots! 1.00

02:08:05.000 We have got to get control of the water we drink. 1.00

02:08:08.000 We've got to get control of the food we eat.

02:08:12.000 I mean, I talk to vets here in town.

02:08:13.000 Everybody's dogs are dying.

02:08:15.000 They're going blind because of the plastic and garbage in the food.

02:08:19.000 It's in human food.

02:08:20.000 There's constant recalls of botulism in its back of the paper, you know.

02:08:23.000 Hundreds of thousands of cans of chili.

02:08:25.000 There's just stuff you can't eat and it's all falling apart! 0.96

02:08:29.000 It's just all psychopathic!

02:08:32.000 No one cares anymore in these corporations.

02:08:34.000 No one cares about anything. 0.98

02:08:35.000 It's all just a bunch of decadent slobs running around with a bunch of goons in black masks running around with torture devices. 1.00

02:08:45.000 There's still so much good left. 0.62

02:08:47.000 There's still people you're mesmerized by.

02:08:49.000 The shining sun, the green trees, and the football, and Bevo, and your mascots, and everything.

02:08:55.000 Everything's great and there's just evil all around us intensifying.

02:09:03.000 And they got fakes like Dr. Dina Dell, Nationwide, who says, Mercury's good for you.

02:09:07.000 By the way, the Mercury's out of the vaccines.

02:09:08.000 No, it's not.

02:09:10.000 Can prove that in 10 seconds.

02:09:11.000 Cell phones aren't bad for you.

02:09:12.000 Blah, blah, blah.

02:09:13.000 It's just there to pacify everybody when it's in all these major university reports.

02:09:17.000 I mean, I've gotten hundreds of reports I've read, scanned through.

02:09:21.000 Going back to the 20s and 30s and the Rockefeller studying how to use fluoride to brain damage us.

02:09:25.000 I mean, you just, you can't make this stuff up!

02:09:31.000 And they put it in everything around us where we can't get away from it! 1.00

02:09:35.000 No wonder people are dumb! 0.99

02:09:36.000 It's not just the television. 1.00

02:09:38.000 It's not just not interacting with people.

02:09:40.000 They're poisoning us!

02:09:44.000 And I'm not an enemy of the police. 1.00

02:09:45.000 I wish you people stopped being dumb and realized just how criminal the system is! 0.99

02:09:49.000 Do some real investigations! 1.00

02:09:51.000 The feds! 0.95

02:09:54.000 You're into the tough guy stuff, you're into your gang mentality, you're into you're doing the best, and the ADL tells you the New World Order doesn't exist, and the Federal Reserve isn't private, and all that bull you can just prove in five minutes, you can prove you're being lied to, but you just choose to accept it!

02:10:09.000 You can't accept it anymore!

02:10:15.000 Whether you like it or not, you're with us.

02:10:17.000 Whether you deny it or not, you're an enemy of the New World Order. 0.76

02:10:22.000 You're going to be used up! 1.00

02:10:23.000 These people are sick! 0.88

02:10:26.000 Look at this news! 0.98

02:10:28.000 Written on board for U.S.

02:10:30.000 strikes on Iran, London Telegraph.

02:10:32.000 Brothers Defense Officials have held talks with their Pentagon counterparts about how they can help out if the U.S.

02:10:39.000 chose to bomb Iran. 0.84

02:10:41.000 Sources in Washington say that America has shelved plans for an all-out assault, going to destroy the Iranian nuclear facility and take out the Islamist regime.

02:10:50.000 The Senate Telegraph has learned that President Bush's White House National Security Council, which is discussing instead, a plan to launch pinpoint attacks on bases operated by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Force, blamed for training Iraqi militias.

02:11:03.000 That's totally made up.

02:11:04.000 British and U.S.

02:11:05.000 generals have said that's a lie.

02:11:06.000 They keep calling that Shiite group They keep calling them Al Qaeda.

02:11:12.000 That's the opposite group, folks.

02:11:13.000 It's two separate sects.

02:11:16.000 Pentagon officials have revealed that President Bush won an understanding with Gordon Brown in July that Britain would support airstrikes if they could be justified as a counter-terrorist operation.

02:11:25.000 That's why they're designating their main military as terrorists.

02:11:28.000 Now they get to bomb all the terror camps.

02:11:33.000 And all that's going to make the world do is dump the dollar even faster. 0.89

02:11:40.000 And the good old boys will be, but they're terrorists!

02:11:42.000 Well, I'm an American!

02:11:43.000 I love George Bush!

02:11:44.000 The one getting rid of the borders.

02:11:46.000 The one letting the illegal pull down the American flag.

02:11:49.000 The one tripling the size of the BATF.

02:11:51.000 The one more than doubling the size of the federal government.

02:11:55.000 The one... I got three or four mainstream news articles yesterday and today.

02:11:59.000 No, it's more than that.

02:12:01.000 Five, six articles.

02:12:02.000 Where they're getting Hillary ready and they're appointing all these former Clinton officials back in the White House and the Pentagon for the transfer to Hillary. 0.95

02:12:09.000 It's staged!

02:12:12.000 I just love my president because the bleeding hearts are against him.

02:12:15.000 The bleeding hearts, it's all... Come on!

02:12:19.000 Come on and grow up! 0.51

02:12:24.000 Stop being played, man! 0.92

02:12:26.000 Stop being saps!

02:12:31.000 They knew what microwave radiation did to brains 50 years ago.

02:12:39.000 They know what these cell phones and towers are doing.

02:12:44.000 They knew all of it!

02:12:45.000 I just... We're together on this!

02:12:52.000 It really started hitting me last night.

02:12:55.000 I have these epiphanies.

02:12:57.000 I wouldn't call them revelations all the time, but it really hit me consciously.

02:13:02.000 It really hit me.

02:13:04.000 That's why COINTELPRO tries to get us to obsess on one group or the other.

02:13:10.000 Is because then when other people hear it, they'll automatically factionalize, and then we can't get everybody together.

02:13:16.000 Man, it doesn't matter if you are of German-Irish extraction, or Jewish-African extraction, or Chinese, Mandarin.

02:13:26.000 We're all being microwaved.

02:13:28.000 We're all being poisoned.

02:13:31.000 And our leaders go, and they meet every year, and they set the policy for the next year, and they carry out their ops on us, and they write books about it.

02:13:40.000 By the way, I keep forgetting.

02:13:41.000 Will you go get Trey in here?

02:13:42.000 Aaron.

02:13:43.000 I have to yell at him because he's got headphones on.

02:13:45.000 I don't yell at my employees.

02:13:46.000 He's through glass and wearing headphones.

02:13:48.000 I have to yell to get his attention.

02:13:49.000 Aaron!

02:13:50.000 Hey, bro.

02:13:51.000 How you doing?

02:13:51.000 Sorry to yell.

02:13:52.000 Hey, will you go get Trey before I forget?

02:13:54.000 I have to do this now or I'm going to forget.

02:13:56.000 Will you go get Trey for me?

02:13:57.000 Thanks.

02:13:58.000 Come in on air.

02:13:58.000 Show him.

02:14:00.000 Thank you.

02:14:00.000 The new world order is there.

02:14:07.000 and There are Zionists running it. 0.65

02:14:10.000 There are Catholics running it.

02:14:11.000 There are Protestants running it. 1.00

02:14:12.000 They're all evil people working together. 0.89

02:14:16.000 And the Feds, in their own COINTELPRO manuals, declassified in the 70s, said they would go get people to nanny and obsess on groups and attack people.

02:14:25.000 And he doesn't cover this enough to get us only spending our time on that.

02:14:29.000 And all the years I've attacked cops at a primitive level being threatened by them, and the bullying things they do at a primitive level, screaming and yelling at them and getting mad.

02:14:39.000 We need to rebuke them and speak out against them, but explain to them how they're being used as slaves.

02:14:45.000 That fella with that Rockefeller authorized biography of the Rockefeller family, which I'd scanned through years ago, I forgot, never get quotes out of, he called in the last Friday and Sunday with them.

02:14:55.000 You said he's written the article, right?

02:14:57.000 Will you print me that?

02:14:58.000 But has Watson posted it yet?

02:15:00.000 I sent it to him, let me check.

02:15:01.000 Yeah, I forgot to get that off the computer.

02:15:03.000 It's an excellent article, but you say you sent it to him?

02:15:05.000 Yeah, I want it up.

02:15:06.000 I don't have the personnel, I don't have the money.

02:15:09.000 And the time is so short to have enough people to do all this.

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02:15:35.000 Okay, this is a one, two, three page article.

02:15:40.000 And he has written, Jay Dyer has written, I'm going to get him on as a guest the next few days.

02:15:46.000 Oh.

02:15:48.000 Oh, yeah, tell Watson to make sure he doesn't post any of his personal emails and stuff, but to put his name on there.

02:15:56.000 And let's give it some kind of an expanded headline.

02:16:00.000 And he just goes through them.

02:16:01.000 Man, I've read so many books.

02:16:03.000 This is one I just scanned through where they just talk about how they rule over us, how we're slaves, how they're going to destroy the family.

02:16:11.000 How they're going to do all... and this is a book they authorized.

02:16:18.000 So that's one we're getting posted up there.

02:16:20.000 I don't know, they've got an expanded article on what's happening with the Browns and how... basically, for all we know, Ed Brown could be in Poland having his fingers broken right now.

02:16:37.000 I mean, the reason I'm so freaked out, folks, is it's all happening.

02:16:40.000 The New World Order promised to destroy the dollar, promised to stage terror attacks.

02:16:44.000 I mean, they said all this, and they're doing it all now.

02:16:47.000 I mean, they do everything they say they do, and I just watch them year after year do what they say.

02:16:54.000 And I know how to beat them.

02:16:55.000 The question is, will the people out there listen to me?

02:16:59.000 And I try to energize grassroots organizations and not control them and have them go off on their own and do big things.

02:17:04.000 And I watch them getting hit by COINTELPRO and you know, kind of everybody infighting with each other.

02:17:09.000 But I see some take the bait, others not take the bait.

02:17:13.000 I'm just telling you, we've got to get more sophisticated and wake up to what's happening.

02:17:22.000 And we need to realize that it's a dark road we're going down if we don't turn this around fast.

02:17:28.000 Alright, we'll come back and get into the cop that killed all those people.

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02:22:32.000 Man, I wish the New Old Order would let us live in peace with the Latin Americans, because I... I like the culture, I like the people.

02:22:40.000 But we have to be enemies.

02:22:42.000 That's what the New Old Order says.

02:22:47.000 They know how to play us off against each other.

02:22:49.000 So I guess we'll all just be peons, and our children will have slavery. 1.00

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02:22:58.000 Getting back into the news here. - The families of the six slain and the one injured by this 20-year-old sheriff's deputy. 1.00

02:23:21.000 He didn't like the girlfriend breaking up with him, so he just went to the party and killed everybody.

02:23:26.000 Little get-together.

02:23:27.000 He showed everybody who the commander was.

02:23:28.000 People are like, I can't believe it!

02:23:30.000 How did an officer do that?

02:23:32.000 How did... How did he get hired?

02:23:36.000 Well, there's evil people.

02:23:37.000 You can't control evil.

02:23:38.000 You're gonna have bad apples.

02:23:41.000 And when a system protects bad apples, it actually looks for bad apples, like Stalin did, hiring the criminals out of the prisons. 0.67

02:23:49.000 Our military looks for aggravated felons now.

02:23:53.000 Who are illegal aliens on top of it, not just foreigners. 0.62

02:23:55.000 I mean, you can't make this type stuff up!

02:24:00.000 They're hiring criminals and those that have criminal test scores, psychological evaluations.

02:24:05.000 Now, that's been in the news!

02:24:07.000 They want crooks to be police!

02:24:10.000 I remember when I was 18 years old and in college, And I was going, I could join the military.

02:24:14.000 I could go into law enforcement.

02:24:16.000 I want something exciting.

02:24:18.000 And my dad said, hey, you've got to talk to my patient.

02:24:19.000 He's the head federal marshal in this area.

02:24:22.000 He's about to retire.

02:24:25.000 And he goes, Alex, you're not a criminal, are you?

02:24:27.000 And I said, no.

02:24:28.000 Well, do you like to do criminal things?

02:24:30.000 Because you can't tell the difference now.

02:24:31.000 Cops are basically pretty much, at this level, criminals now.

02:24:35.000 And he goes, I wouldn't join.

02:24:36.000 I wouldn't do it.

02:24:37.000 30, 40 years ago, maybe.

02:24:38.000 I mean, I had a federal marshal Tell me that when I was 18 years old.

02:24:50.000 18 years old, folks.

02:24:51.000 That's how shot and gone and burned out this system is.

02:25:00.000 That's why we have to have guns to protect ourselves because, see, this guy went and killed six people Well, what happens when they become president?

02:25:07.000 What happens when people like that become governors?

02:25:09.000 What happens when they become police chiefs?

02:25:12.000 What happens when the people like that get into power and then recruit other people like that?

02:25:17.000 You have tyranny.

02:25:18.000 That's the norm.

02:25:19.000 You create a big government, even if it was set up by good people, which they never are.

02:25:24.000 But for the sake of argument, it is then taken over by bad people.

02:25:30.000 And in many places we got cops just like this guy that like to frame people and shoot people and torture people and they get into power and they just do it and they keep on running for a long time. 0.99

02:25:44.000 They're miserable unhappy scum but that keeps going on forever. 0.95

02:25:50.000 Forrest County Sheriff's Deputy Tyler Peterson, who also worked part-time as a Crandon police officer, stormed into a home where a party was going on, opened fire, friends of the victims told CNN. 0.98

02:26:02.000 School Superintendent Richard Peters told the Associated Press that three local high school students were killed and another three died and graduated within the past year.

02:26:15.000 Unbelievable.

02:26:16.000 You can look at it, man.

02:26:17.000 He's got that look I've seen so many times.

02:26:20.000 No real accomplishments, not a real man, but he got a badge, folks. 0.99

02:26:24.000 And you get to be a big, fat bully. 0.98

02:26:26.000 That very look of evil, you can just see it. 0.99

02:26:29.000 It's the weakness.

02:26:30.000 Evil is weak. 0.82

02:26:33.000 You can see the pig-eyed look on this guy. 0.98

02:26:35.000 And by the way, I call everybody pig people. 0.98

02:26:37.000 That's not just calling cops pigs. 0.99

02:26:39.000 I call it a pig demon look. 0.97

02:26:41.000 That's just what comes to mind when I look at them. 0.93

02:26:44.000 And, uh, you know, I guaranteed a spoiled brat of his parents, you know, driving around acting country-fied, acting tough.

02:26:51.000 A good ol' boy on the inside.

02:26:53.000 Yeah, let's get Junior in there on the fourth. 0.98

02:26:57.000 Oh, we'll... And he just thought he'd go kill some people! 0.97

02:27:01.000 See? 1.00

02:27:03.000 And all you fools. 1.00

02:27:05.000 Oh, let's have gun control. 1.00

02:27:07.000 Let's, let's... Only the police should have guns. 1.00

02:27:10.000 So, so, these guys can take over?

02:27:12.000 No.

02:27:15.000 No.

02:27:17.000 We're going to check in on the Browns with Larry Becraft, constitutional law scholar, lawyer.

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02:30:59.000 the the the the the the week off and on kept calling

02:31:28.000 The police told me at the 1013 precinct in New York.

02:31:35.000 You know what, Aaron?

02:31:37.000 Aaron, because I'm going to get on a plane right after this if I don't have to.

02:31:39.000 Will you go get me the 1013 precinct's phone number?

02:31:43.000 Yeah, the 1013.

02:31:45.000 I'm going to have to get on a plane and fly to New York tonight.

02:31:49.000 Because it doesn't say this on the ticket, but we finally got a hold of people after weeks of calling. 0.84

02:31:54.000 Chess Pit New World Order System that for a sound device even if your car stereo is up too loud and it's a misdemeanor you still have to physically appear in court and I'm trying to figure out in New York right now last minute if I can get a lawyer to go in there to appear for me but I'm told that New York is butt backwards as they say I mean, I'm just so sick of this criminal system, these parasites that run everything.

02:32:23.000 Land of the free, home of the brave.

02:32:24.000 They just turned into a... I mean, look at this article right here.

02:32:28.000 FBI puts anti-war protesters on criminal database.

02:32:31.000 Op-Ed News reports on this, but it was in the major Canadian papers over the weekend.

02:32:35.000 Canada uses its ban to ban protesters from entry.

02:32:39.000 One of them, former U.S.

02:32:40.000 ambassador, who we've interviewed.

02:32:42.000 Two well-respected U.S.

02:32:43.000 peace activists, Code Pink and Global Exchange co-founder, Our retired colonel and diplomat Anne Wright were denied entry into Canada.

02:32:54.000 The two women were headed to Toronto to discuss peace and security issues at the invitation of the Toronto Stop the War Coalition at the Buffalo-Niagara Falls Bridge.

02:33:05.000 They were detained, questioned, and denied entry.

02:33:08.000 And it said for any misdemeanor, they are now criminal terrorists and cannot travel outside the U.S.

02:33:17.000 So this is the new America, folks. 0.68

02:33:18.000 We're about to go to Larry Veecraft.

02:33:21.000 Oh, I just spilled coffee everywhere.

02:33:23.000 I'm totally insane today, folks.

02:33:29.000 Let's go ahead and go to Larry.

02:33:33.000 Becraft.

02:33:35.000 Man, I gave my lawyer this like two weeks ago and he finally realizes this.

02:33:39.000 Let's go to Larry Becraft, another wonderful lawyer, constitutional law scholar, graduated top of his class, won a lot of big cases, just won one for another lawyer, Cryer, down in the South with income taxes, and I wanted to get him on to give us his take on what's happening with the Browns. 0.57

02:33:59.000 Good to have you on, Mr. Becraft.

02:34:00.000 Hello, Alex.

02:34:01.000 How are you doing today?

02:34:03.000 Got a good program going.

02:34:04.000 Oh, there's always insanity swirling around here, I tell ya.

02:34:08.000 Have you heard the new one in Houston and in a suburb of Baltimore?

02:34:12.000 They want people to be forced to put cameras in their houses and on their houses.

02:34:17.000 Please stay, man.

02:34:18.000 That's your theme, isn't it?

02:34:19.000 You fight it all the time.

02:34:22.000 These people are getting crazy.

02:34:24.000 If we don't do something about it, you know, like if you smoke in your house.

02:34:26.000 I heard some news story about And also in Maryland, that some lady several houses away could smell somebody smoking in their own house and she was opposed to it, wanted an ordinance to ban smoking in houses. 1.00

02:34:39.000 It's only natural something like that come up.

02:34:41.000 You know, George Orwell advocated in his book, you know, that there should be TV cameras inside your TV screen.

02:34:52.000 What's new?

02:34:55.000 Well, that's exactly what he did right about.

02:35:00.000 You're also a criminal defense attorney.

02:35:03.000 You've done that quite a bit successfully.

02:35:05.000 I wanted to get your expertise on the Edna Lane Brown situation.

02:35:10.000 She, of course, is in the Federal Bureau of Prisons now since Saturday.

02:35:14.000 Ed Brown has disappeared into a black hole.

02:35:17.000 And of course that violates, I guess, his habeas corpus and a bunch of other things.

02:35:21.000 And I'm trying to get the media on this, but I remember seeing federal laws, regulations about they're supposed to have a chain of custody of where someone is.

02:35:29.000 They're not supposed to have them disappear.

02:35:32.000 What does this look like to you?

02:35:35.000 Well, we can talk about the events that lead up to this, but to directly address your specific question, the mere fact that she's been taken into custody and people know where she is, You know, for him, he's considered a threat, so the system's going to sit there, and I've known people that have advantage for a while, and locating them is difficult.

02:35:57.000 By the time you get around to complaining about it, it can be resolved, though.

02:35:59.000 This is just one of the tricks that they pull.

02:36:04.000 Do you think they're de-selling him like they did Congressman Hanson?

02:36:07.000 No, I think that there's a great probability.

02:36:10.000 I don't know what you've got in the way of federal correctional institutes or even federal prisons up there in New Hampshire.

02:36:16.000 My guess is that they have probably, they certainly are going to put them together in the same county jail.

02:36:23.000 Quite often, when federal defendants are arrested, they will put them in a county jail.

02:36:32.000 Contractual agreements between the feds and local counties, where the local county jails will house federal inmates until quite often, up until trial.

02:36:41.000 And then even after trial, before somebody gets convicted and they've got to go to the Federal Correctional Institute, they'll keep them housed in the county jails.

02:36:50.000 So my guess is that Elaine is in some known, you're telling me that there's a known place where she's located right now.

02:36:58.000 He's unknown.

02:36:59.000 Chances are that they're running him around to several county jails, probably in New Hampshire.

02:37:07.000 So the quote, the militia doesn't bust him out?

02:37:11.000 I think that that's a legitimate fear that they have.

02:37:13.000 They've expressed that they have that fear.

02:37:16.000 So, you know, I can see one of the reasons why they would keep where he is locked up, you know, word of where he is until the thing's quietened down and they see that there's no longer a threat.

02:37:27.000 They'll probably keep this up.

02:37:29.000 Now I've seen him torture quite a few people in their custody.

02:37:32.000 I think they're probably torturing him or at least sleep deprivation to quote find out you know who the people that were going to carry out revenge attacks are. 0.68

02:37:43.000 Here in Alabama, here within the last two months, there was a criminal case over in another county right close to us where the crazy defendant, and he was crazy, he killed two cops.

02:37:43.000 I think possibility.

02:37:56.000 And as soon as he was sentenced, he was hauled off down to Montgomery, Alabama to the state prison.

02:38:02.000 And with a couple days after his arrival there, he was dead.

02:38:07.000 I've heard of the situations.

02:38:08.000 I was involved in a case in Texas and the defendants were convicted.

02:38:12.000 This was on issuing those drafts to pay off the IRS tax liens and pay off mortgages on banks and stuff like that.

02:38:20.000 We tried this in front of Joe Kendall about 9 or 10 years ago.

02:38:25.000 One of the defendants got out of jail and he was completely irritated with the whole system.

02:38:32.000 He wouldn't report.

02:38:33.000 One day they picked him up and hauled him into jail, and a couple days later he's dead.

02:38:38.000 These stories about deaths in prison are there.

02:38:43.000 What conclusions you draw from them, that's left up to Whatever you want to think.

02:38:49.000 But there's a lady in the airport, she killed herself with her own handcuffs, Larry.

02:38:55.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:38:55.000 And Elaine Brown, getting back to them, this situation, it shouldn't have turned into a situation like this.

02:39:05.000 When they were going to trial, there was a motion in limine that was entered, and I think that the Browns kind of overreacted to that.

02:39:14.000 Typically, a motion in limine is, you know, bringing up some point that one party expects to happen at trial and getting that addressed in advance.

02:39:23.000 Well, in the criminal tax case, a defendant is entitled to get on the stand and testify about his beliefs.

02:39:28.000 And that means if he believes wages, not income, or, you know, whatever his belief might be, he's entitled to testify about them.

02:39:35.000 The government comes along and files motions in limine, and a lot of people overreact to them.

02:39:40.000 All they're simply saying there is, is that the defense is not going to be trying to tell the jury that this is the law.

02:39:46.000 Well, you know, I frequently don't even reply to motions in limine, I just show up.

02:39:50.000 Exactly, you ignore it and then say whatever you want.

02:39:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:39:55.000 But I think that in the Browns case, they concluded that they weren't even going to be able to offer any testimony on that point.

02:40:01.000 Of course they would have.

02:40:03.000 Well, I have to say, and again, folks, we're allowed to talk about strategies.

02:40:07.000 It doesn't have to be more people.

02:40:09.000 Larry, you've seen every quack argument out there.

02:40:12.000 You're actually able to get people found not guilty.

02:40:16.000 You just did this in a federal income tax evasion case.

02:40:19.000 You know what you're talking about.

02:40:21.000 You don't get people sent to prison.

02:40:25.000 And then I just see all these patriot quacks, and they call it technologies and all this fast talking.

02:40:31.000 Man, I get sick of it.

02:40:32.000 Me too, me too.

02:40:34.000 In less than 48 hours I'll be down in Southern Georgia on arraignment on a case.

02:40:40.000 It's going to be another one of these.

02:40:43.000 This defendant was issuing liens against IRS agents.

02:40:47.000 He issued the liens for 21 million.

02:40:49.000 I got indicted.

02:40:49.000 You know, I can remember when that was hot.

02:40:51.000 Particularly in Texas, that type of advice was running around.

02:40:54.000 Oh, you need to file liens against all these people.

02:40:56.000 It's always been the case, you know, the government's going to, when you do something like that, you're going to get indicted.

02:41:00.000 And I just see a lot of people out there listing to people that are basically selling indictments and getting them into trouble.

02:41:06.000 And I wish it would stop.

02:41:09.000 And it seems like the people giving the advice that ruins all these lives never get in trouble.

02:41:15.000 Yeah, well I try to talk about it on my website and inform people that there are some dangerous propositions and dangerous positions to take and hope it's doing some service to stopping it.

02:41:27.000 You mentioned just a moment ago this technology.

02:41:29.000 I know the particular party that you're talking about there is kind of a UCC argument.

02:41:34.000 You know, I envision later on down the road, having closely watched or looked at their particular arguments, they may not have any problems with it in the sense that the government won't respond to it.

02:41:48.000 But, you know, there's a distinct possibility that the people that are advocating that could end up being prosecuted too.

02:41:54.000 Well, I'm not even talking about a particular person.

02:41:57.000 I just constantly hear that term bandied about.

02:42:00.000 Well, of late, I've seen technology used in reference to a particular program, so it's kind of a UCC position.

02:42:08.000 But, you know, here's a real problem.

02:42:13.000 That UCC argument, like so many others, is pure fabrication.

02:42:18.000 You know, it's just invented out of whole cloth.

02:42:20.000 People will sit around and they'll listen to it.

02:42:22.000 You've got somebody that's hyping it.

02:42:23.000 Oh, look, we're doing this and we're doing that and they're selling some type of a program.

02:42:27.000 People are gullible.

02:42:28.000 They'll fall for that stuff, get involved in it, and I see over and over and over again it takes people that wouldn't be otherwise in trouble and throws them in jail.

02:42:38.000 And that's got to stop.

02:42:39.000 But then we're bad because we give people advice that won't get them in jail.

02:42:43.000 Yeah, well...

02:42:45.000 You know, you were talking about the New World Order and having to clean up our own case so that we can battle more effectively.

02:42:53.000 I think that's exactly what the tax movement and the freedom movement has got to do.

02:42:57.000 We've got to stop the nonsense because the nonsense only gives ammunition to the other side to throw at our side.

02:43:03.000 It makes us look bad.

02:43:05.000 We're held up to the rest of America as being looney toons.

02:43:10.000 Until we present a more acceptable face to the American people, our ranks won't grow.

02:43:15.000 And I'm trying to make our ranks grow, just like you are.

02:43:20.000 You're waking up a lot of people.

02:43:22.000 You're telling the story that needs to be told.

02:43:24.000 Well, we need to carry out the same type of strategy on our side.

02:43:29.000 We need to clean up and quit promoting flaky arguments, arguments that get people into jail.

02:43:35.000 I've got a case out in California right now, a state case.

02:43:39.000 This guy quit filing sales tax returns, and there was no strategy in doing that.

02:43:44.000 No defense lined up.

02:43:45.000 They just quit.

02:43:46.000 So it results in 20 counts for that.

02:43:50.000 and they had no particular argument that they were going to promote.

02:43:53.000 It was just, you know, let's just quit doing this, and it exposes people to criminal difficulties.

02:43:57.000 But it's the same thing.

02:43:59.000 I mean, I get these emails for 10 years saying, I'm a Nigerian prince.

02:44:03.000 I've got $14 million.

02:44:04.000 Send me $5,000.

02:44:06.000 You get the $14 million.

02:44:07.000 And then poor patriots call up here on this show, and they go, listen, I've got a Nigerian prince calling me, Alex.

02:44:13.000 And I'll say, and let me guess, it's $5,000.

02:44:15.000 No, it's $6,000.

02:44:16.000 And I go, listen, it's a scam.

02:44:18.000 And they go, no it isn't.

02:44:19.000 Now listen to me, I've talked to him on the phone.

02:44:22.000 All he needs is more money.

02:44:23.000 The feds are holding the $14 million check up.

02:44:26.000 They will not listen to me.

02:44:28.000 They just don't want to listen.

02:44:31.000 And it's the same thing with all these COINTELPRO folks out there.

02:44:34.000 I mean, a lot of people are starting to listen, but the particular ones that have bought into a con aren't going to listen.

02:44:39.000 I mean, I remember telling Ed privately, and I'm not saying Ed's bad, folks.

02:44:43.000 I'm not saying that the IRS isn't a scam and offshore and all this stuff.

02:44:47.000 I remember privately going, Ed, you might not want to tell folks that you're shooting into the woods when people walk around in them, because that's an improper use of a firearm.

02:44:54.000 It's public endangerment.

02:44:56.000 Kids could be walking around in your woods.

02:44:58.000 There's neighborhoods nearby.

02:45:00.000 Well, that's just what I do, and I'm a constitutional ranger, and I blah, blah, blah.

02:45:03.000 And then parties up there, guaranteeing that that'll just accelerate the feds coming in. 0.91

02:45:08.000 And no one listened to me!

02:45:10.000 Larry, it's like, it's all these people in this movement that act like I've just fallen off, or you've just fallen off a turnip truck.

02:45:17.000 Well, listen, let's talk about Ed and Elaine Brown's case.

02:45:20.000 If they hadn't have been buffaloed by that trial, by that motion in limine, if they'd have known that that doesn't prevent them from offering their beliefs, they could have at least stood there and gone to trial.

02:45:31.000 But then merely walking off and not appearing in court, that's saying the next charges that are going to come are going to be for failure to appear.

02:45:39.000 That's going to be a felony, because this was a felony.

02:45:42.000 So the Browns are looking at The felony prosecution after this.

02:45:46.000 Also, they've suffered forfeitures because of those CTR cases.

02:45:51.000 Well, you know, I don't think the government can do that.

02:45:53.000 But there was a lot of missed opportunities for the Browns as a direct result of walking off from a situation in which, you know, that was the improper response.

02:46:04.000 They could have stood there and defended themselves and increased their chances of maybe even getting an acquittal.

02:46:08.000 But then just walking off because they didn't understand the trial procedure and saying, I'm not coming back to court.

02:46:14.000 And then letting the jury without any, you know, defense being put up, convict them.

02:46:19.000 And then, you know, holding up and, you know, exposing themselves to assure, it's 100% certain that a failure to appear is going to be prosecuted against them.

02:46:30.000 And there's probably going to be some other charges brought against them.

02:46:33.000 This whole situation, you know, because of what people didn't know about how to try a case, It has been blown out of proportion.

02:46:42.000 It's only going to give the movement a black eye.

02:46:45.000 I've already seen adverse, ever since this situation got started, there's been adverse media representations about this case, and it certainly hasn't helped our cause.

02:46:57.000 Overshadowing, uh, nine people being found in 161 counts not guilty or mistrial, uh, in Nevada, and you winning a case and all these other cases being won.

02:47:08.000 Meanwhile, it's all just, you don't pay, you end up going to jail like the Browns.

02:47:12.000 And again, they're dear, sweet people who knew it was criminal, knew the system was corrupt, so they thought that they could then basically take on a Sherman tank when they're on the back of a bicycle.

02:47:23.000 Well, I use the analogy, we've got a bunch of little old ladies out there with brooms battling tanks. 1.00

02:47:29.000 And that's exactly our posture.

02:47:31.000 Unless this movement comes... You know, Alex, there's such a thing as critical path planning.

02:47:38.000 And when a contractor builds a house, he has a plan and he pulls together all the resources to build the house and it comes together and he does it in the shortest time possible and does the best job possible.

02:47:48.000 That's called critical path planning.

02:47:50.000 When a nation engages in war, just like we did with Iraq, there's planning in advance. 0.87

02:47:56.000 That's called a critical path.

02:47:58.000 This movement will not come together and devise a critical path.

02:48:02.000 First we've got to establish what our goal is.

02:48:05.000 What goal do we want to achieve?

02:48:07.000 Larry, stay there.

02:48:07.000 One final segment.

02:48:08.000 and everybody agree upon each step that must be taken in order to achieve that goal.

02:48:13.000 And then once we have the plan, then we've got to start pursuing it.

02:48:16.000 Now, that takes some work, but it will be a lot more productive than this movement sitting around.

02:48:22.000 Larry, stay there.

02:48:23.000 One final segment.

02:48:25.000 I've only got one question for you on the other side.

02:48:27.000 If they weren't there for the trial, can't we get another trial?

02:48:31.000 Isn't there procedural problems?

02:48:33.000 Shouldn't the trial have been halted until they can get them back in court?

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02:54:22.000 Alright, Larry Becraft, I appreciate you holding here to the end of the show.

02:54:25.000 It seems like every time you're on, I've got SWAT teams running around out in the front, or I'm learning how to fly to New York for using a bullhorn.

02:54:34.000 All of this craziness going on, but the dollar plunging, all this wild stuff happening.

02:54:41.000 Could they get a retrial on the first thing?

02:54:43.000 Or is that kosher that they walked out and just go ahead and have the trial? 0.76

02:54:48.000 Well, that has happened.

02:54:51.000 They were listening to Michael Avery at Outlaw Legal Services.

02:54:55.000 He's the guy that promotes George Mercy's book on contracts, which is all myth and science fiction.

02:55:01.000 But nonetheless, a giant mess was created.

02:55:03.000 And then after the conviction happened, there was a chance for them to file post-trial motions.

02:55:08.000 Well, the 10 days ran on that.

02:55:10.000 Then they got sentenced, and there's been no post-trial motions or any other attacks on it since this trial came about.

02:55:18.000 The only thing that I see that they've got left, and this is going to take some work in order to review the record and everything else, the only thing I see that can help them is a 2255, which is a habeas corpus.

02:55:30.000 Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of missed opportunities.

02:55:34.000 Instead, they'll probably try to Yeah, yeah.

02:55:37.000 I'm afraid so.

02:55:37.000 Give me a call, Alex.

02:55:38.000 Yeah, I'm afraid so.

02:55:40.000 Man, I'm sorry.

02:55:42.000 It's just so sick.

02:55:43.000 And I'm just laughing because I'm literally tearing my hair out.

02:55:46.000 Everybody pray for the Browns.

02:55:47.000 We've got big updates up on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:55:50.000 Larry B. Kraft, I've got to get you up in the near future to go through the myths of the New World Order.

02:55:54.000 Give me a call, Alex.

02:55:56.000 Always enjoy your programs.

02:55:58.000 All right.

02:55:59.000 God bless you.

02:55:59.000 Take care.

02:56:00.000 Let's pray for the Browns. 0.50

02:56:01.000 And let's try to get the word out to everybody.

02:56:07.000 And let's just try to fight the New World Order as best we can and not escalate us into a shooting war.

02:56:12.000 Music But prayer does help, and let's all pray for Ed.

02:56:15.000 He's got a lot of courage.

02:56:17.000 And he's got guts, and guts is enough.

02:56:20.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - October 08, 2007

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