Alex Jones Show - 20071107_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Two-time Super Bowl champion.

00:00:30.000 Dallas Cowboy.

00:00:31.000 Five-time Pro Bowler.

00:00:35.000 Mark Stavnoski will be joining us coming up in the third hour today.

00:00:42.000 Very honored to be having him come on.

00:00:43.000 Already familiar with some of his other work in the fight against the phony war on drugs.

00:00:51.000 A very informed individual, so this Super Bowl champion slash Pro Bowler will be joining us coming up to talk about 9-11 truth and his serious questions surrounding and concerning the official story that is coming up in two hours from now.

00:01:12.000 Dr. Michael Kaufman covering how the mainline environmental groups were literally founded by the eugenicists.

00:01:18.000 I'm going to be clear.

00:01:19.000 I'm not against having a good environment.

00:01:21.000 I'm for that.

00:01:23.000 None of us want to breathe poison air or drink poison water.

00:01:26.000 In fact, the contrary.

00:01:27.000 The big banks and big money that has come in with their PR firms have taken over any of the real environmental groups that form that actually have an effect.

00:01:38.000 Or they'll just sick of the FBI or police on other groups that are legitimately out doing things.

00:01:44.000 Right now it's all about global taxation.

00:01:46.000 It ties into the endgame.

00:01:48.000 So Dr. Michael Kaufman will be joining us coming up in the second hour and talking about the United Nations Biological Diversity Assessment where they openly talk about 80 plus percent population reductions and a lot more.

00:02:00.000 That is coming up in the second hour today as well.

00:02:07.000 There is a lot going on.

00:02:10.000 I got a surprise call last night at about nine o'clock that they wanted me on Coast to Coast AM, so I did that.

00:02:18.000 And I guess I'm not my old self.

00:02:20.000 I used to do six, seven, eight, nine hours of radio a day, but I already did four other interviews yesterday, my own show, and then Coast to Coast.

00:02:27.000 I am getting into my step, though, here, kind of trying to fire up, get the brain working.

00:02:33.000 But I tell you, we are certainly burning the midnight oil when it comes to the fight against the Global Crime Syndicate.

00:02:45.000 I'm feeling a lot of anxiety, and I'm not normally someone who has a lot of anxiety.

00:02:49.000 I'm normally at ease.

00:02:51.000 But right before 9-11, I had the same feelings I'm having now, and I've had similar feelings only a few other times.

00:03:00.000 All of that anxiety is completely dwarfed That is what I'm feeling in my gut.

00:03:07.000 All that past anxiety is completely eclipsed, obscured, blotted out.

00:03:15.000 A pall hangs over me.

00:03:17.000 Not of depression.

00:03:18.000 I'm very happy and love my life and I'm energized.

00:03:21.000 But just a pall, a black pall, kind of a black cloud.

00:03:26.000 And everybody feels it.

00:03:28.000 But intellectually, I don't just go off my gut.

00:03:30.000 Intellectually, I know one of the major reasons that I'm so upset.

00:03:35.000 But there's also something more there.

00:03:38.000 It's them wanting to start on World War III in Iran. 0.85

00:03:43.000 It's what's happening with the police state here domestically.

00:03:47.000 It's that the establishment feels like a cornered rat and is more dangerous now than ever.

00:03:53.000 The dollar plunged even more today.

00:03:56.000 It plunged again yesterday.

00:03:58.000 The things that are happening right now are just unspeakably serious and still the general public does not know what it means to have a devalued dollar.

00:04:11.000 Your savings are Plunging upwards of a cent each week, and by a cent I mean per dollar that you have, it's plunging around a cent.

00:04:23.000 That means you're losing around 1% of your savings, your purchasing power, every single week with your assets.

00:04:35.000 I'm going to try to break this down when we get back, as we just chronicle this unfolding and happening.

00:04:42.000 And I heard some things this morning on talk radio that were very disquieting.

00:04:48.000 I heard two national hosts reading talking points, and it was a key sign in this whole system.

00:04:56.000 We'll be right back.

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00:08:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:08:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:07.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:08:24.000 Welcome Mark Stepnowski, pro bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, Dallas Cowboy, Houston Oiler.

00:08:33.000 We'll be joining us to talk about 9-11 truth in the third hour.

00:08:36.000 Dr. Michael Kaufman in the second hour.

00:08:37.000 For those that just joined us, my sound a bit frazzled today.

00:08:43.000 It's because I've been road hard, put away wet, doing, I guess, a total of actually five interviews yesterday and my own show.

00:08:52.000 And once I go to bed at 4 a.m., I just really don't get any sleep.

00:08:56.000 So that's why I look like some kind of raccoon with black circles around my eyes when you see me out about town, because I just can't turn down big interviews like Coast to Coast AM, and I can't come get up in the morning and not come do this show.

00:09:10.000 So, again, I'm honored to be here, and I'm very, very thankful that all of you are tuning in.

00:09:15.000 Okay, the serious, serious news that we have here in front of us.

00:09:20.000 Crude oil gold surge amid dollar reserve worry.

00:09:27.000 And gold is only $2 from breaking the 1980 all-time record.

00:09:36.000 But for gold to have the same purchasing power it had versus purchasing it with the dollar in that ratio, in that conversion, It will need to go to $2200 plus an ounce.

00:09:49.000 So if it is indeed going to make that move and get parity with true dollar devaluation, we will see $2200 an ounce gold.

00:09:59.000 I do not know if that's going to happen.

00:10:02.000 But it is $15 up today, and it is literally on the heels of the 1980 record right now.

00:10:11.000 This certainly is a day long remembered.

00:10:14.000 Crude oil gold surge amid dollar reserve worry.

00:10:17.000 You know, they're finally admitting why gold and oil are going up.

00:10:21.000 Now, usually they'll claim it's some storm in the Gulf or So, Leprechaun, you know, bit somebody or something ridiculous happened, but in real financial internal publications and policy reports and IMF World Bank documents, they are totally honest about what they're actually doing to us.

00:10:41.000 And there's one publication I've seen that really does tell the truth, and that's the Financial Times of London.

00:10:46.000 They put a slight spin on it, but they admit the big central banks are having a large, ravenous blood meal right now on your back.

00:10:55.000 When I think about my detractors who put up websites, news stories from a year ago, two years ago, saying, Alex Jones is a kook.

00:11:04.000 He said the dollar would plunge.

00:11:06.000 He said the economy was in trouble.

00:11:08.000 Where is it?

00:11:09.000 Well, if you haven't noticed that we're at all-time private debt, government debt, corporate debt, if you haven't noticed that people are having to work two, three jobs, if you haven't noticed all the real economic indices showing we're in deep trouble, and this is just the beginning, you're just blind.

00:11:26.000 You're just absolutely completely blind.

00:11:30.000 Fox News, though, came out yesterday, and we even have the clip of it.

00:11:33.000 We may have time to play it later.

00:11:35.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:11:37.000 And they said, hey, a $1 is good.

00:11:40.000 It's very good, and we thank the President for the great job he's done.

00:11:44.000 This is another stroke of genius.

00:11:46.000 Yes, a stroke of genius.

00:11:49.000 Thank you, Emperor, for all you do, as if you actually run anything, you're a complete puppet of the big central banks, who own the defense contractor companies, and, of course, the big oil companies.

00:12:00.000 So, crude oil, gold surge amid dollar reserve worry.

00:12:05.000 I was up at about 2.30 in the morning doing George Norrie's broadcast last night with Daniel Estill, and it was a great co-interview.

00:12:13.000 It was great to be interviewed there with Daniel.

00:12:17.000 By the way, it's in Endgame, and there it was, London Independent.

00:12:22.000 There was the Chinese head of their central bank saying that they're going to go ahead and start accelerating the dump of the dollar out of their $1.43 trillion in holdings.

00:12:32.000 I thought it was $1.2 trillion, but I guess that was six months ago.

00:12:35.000 I guess they hold a couple hundred million more with their balance of trade.

00:12:44.000 See, the bankers create a fiat system.

00:12:46.000 And then they get us over-leveraged by design, and now they're busy putting out hundreds of articles a day, literally, saying, we deserve it, we're spoiled, we're bad, Americans did this.

00:12:58.000 It's the fact of the poor people that went and took loans they couldn't pay.

00:13:01.000 That has nothing to do with it, ladies and gentlemen.

00:13:04.000 It was the big banks that issued all this credit, pumped this bubble up, and then three months ago, cut off the conduit of that credit to the people, not to the central banks themselves.

00:13:15.000 It is a orgy of looting that's going on.

00:13:19.000 The pound hits $2.10 USD mark as dollar battered by Qing comments.

00:13:28.000 We'll be going over that.

00:13:29.000 UK rate cut grows more likely.

00:13:33.000 As they try to cut their interest rates, to at least slow the slide of the dollar, they want a slow decline so we don't get too restless in the IMF and World Bank's own words.

00:13:47.000 As their former chief economist Joseph Stiglitz told you here in January, Continuing, 4X pound again hits $2.10 USD market.

00:13:57.000 Dollar battered by Ching's comments.

00:13:59.000 We're going to be going over that.

00:14:00.000 Also from George Washington blog, 9-11 family member Patty Kazziza, a government knew exact date and exact targets.

00:14:11.000 9/11 family member, Jersey girl, Patty Kazziza, has just revealed that whistleblowers told her that before 9/11, the government knew the exact day, the type of attack, and the targets.

00:14:25.000 In Ron Paul news, will Ron Paul be excluded from Iowa debates?

00:14:30.000 It's being openly discussed.

00:14:31.000 It's up on JonesReport.com.

00:14:33.000 It's being openly discussed to exclude him from the debate, claiming he's not a first year candidate.

00:14:38.000 It was okay to have him up there and ignore him and short-shift him and only give him a third of the time the other candidates got.

00:14:44.000 In all the major debates, they cheated him.

00:14:47.000 He averages about a third as much time.

00:14:48.000 Giuliani gets 15 minutes.

00:14:50.000 Ron Paul gets almost five.

00:14:51.000 Mitt Romney gets 12 minutes.

00:14:55.000 Ron Paul gets four.

00:14:57.000 Depending on which debate it was, that's the type of little scams they ran. 1.00

00:15:00.000 They just think the public is so dumb. 0.97

00:15:04.000 Well, now they're talking about excluding him from Iowa. 0.99

00:15:07.000 Also, CBS labels are on poll.

00:15:09.000 This is a quote, meaningless fruitcake.

00:15:12.000 Boy, that's very scientific. 0.99

00:15:15.000 It's just so ridiculous. 0.68

00:15:17.000 With no chance of winning, Kevin Drumm, Channel South Park's officer, Bar Bradley, nothing to see here folks, move along. 0.60

00:15:28.000 Yeah, they're actually saying, nothing to see here folks, move along.

00:15:32.000 And for Americans who want to still be willfully ignorant about what's happening, I guess that actually works on them.

00:15:39.000 You tell them, move along, and they do.

00:15:42.000 Got a story up on TruthandNews.us, Oberman, does Bush want to remake U.S.

00:15:49.000 into invisible fascist state.

00:15:51.000 Now, all day they talk about Islamo-fascist, but when you talk about invading countries, incredible corporate corruption, attacks on liberties and freedoms, and then the trappings, the terms, the names, the symbols, the signets, the logos, the verbiage, the vernacular, Nomenclature.

00:16:13.000 I mean, they follow classical Nazi-style fascism to a T, ladies and gentlemen. 0.52

00:16:20.000 So we'll be going over that and playing some of the overman statements on it.

00:16:23.000 Very eloquent.

00:16:25.000 Also, state of emergency.

00:16:27.000 Could Bush ever arbitrarily declare martial law like Musharraf has in Pakistan?

00:16:33.000 And let me just stop right there and make some comments about that.

00:16:41.000 Here at the studio last night, in between interviews, I guess it was about 11.30 at night.

00:16:49.000 I wasn't recording it.

00:16:51.000 I came walking out of the bathroom.

00:16:54.000 Aaron was in the front writing this article about him wanting to exclude Ron Paul from Iowa, and I had the TV sound down real low on CNN.

00:17:03.000 We keep a couple TVs on with different news channels in the back room.

00:17:11.000 I look up, and it shows these people lined up.

00:17:14.000 Somebody's got to have this on tape.

00:17:15.000 Anderson Cooper's 360 last night. 0.72

00:17:20.000 And it shows what's happening in Pakistan, and it showed them hurting people on the back of trucks for no reason, just beating them, kicking them in the hind end, hitting them with belly clubs. 0.99

00:17:31.000 And I saw Anderson Cooper smile real wickedly.

00:17:34.000 You know, he's admittedly CIA.

00:17:36.000 He was CIA and the one in the media.

00:17:38.000 And a total propagandist.

00:17:39.000 Not a very good one at that, by the way, but he's a little darling, I guess.

00:17:42.000 A little trollop.

00:17:45.000 And there he was, and I saw him smiling with the audio down, so I turned it up, and I sit down, and I look back up, and they're just talking about, well, they're getting tough over there, and he's doing what he needs to do, but they're actually defending it, and Aaron walks in, and he's talking to me, and I turn and look, and Aaron's not looking, and they've got people lined up by a car.

00:18:07.000 And their machine guns opened fire.

00:18:11.000 I'm talking at like 10 feet away and you see the people crumple and fall to the ground like something on a red dom and they've got them lined up and shooting them.

00:18:18.000 But the audio was real low and I kind of double-checked.

00:18:21.000 I was like, did I just see that?

00:18:23.000 Did any of you, in fact, we're not really open phones right now, but if you saw that too, because it was just literally like you can't believe you just saw it.

00:18:34.000 And I'm hoping that I Saw wrong, because it was like three seconds.

00:18:39.000 There's people lined up on the side of the street, and you see Christmas tree flashes out of the muzzles of guns. 0.96

00:18:46.000 Broad daylight, soldiers machine gunning people.

00:18:50.000 Now, maybe I saw it wrong.

00:18:51.000 Maybe I didn't see that, because I scrambled to see if we were recording.

00:18:54.000 A lot of times we are.

00:18:57.000 And no, we didn't catch it on tape, and that was the rebroadcast of the day, so that was it.

00:19:02.000 I think he's on it like nine at night or eight at night, and they re-air it a few hours later.

00:19:05.000 So if you saw that, please let me know.

00:19:10.000 This morning I was tuning around on talk radio listening to a national host based out of San Antonio that I tuned into Neil Bortz.

00:19:18.000 And I heard both of them say, two separate national shows, that well if Al Qaeda comes in and bombs one restaurant and kills 50 people, it's going to plunge our economy.

00:19:28.000 And get ready for it.

00:19:30.000 And I've always said that They may stage a small attack here, and then totally plunge the economy, or make the announcement it's plunged, in some type of psychological view that Al-Qaeda did it, because I've seen that pattern before, and I heard two different shows saying that.

00:19:45.000 That isn't a good sign.

00:19:48.000 And there's no doubt, listening to Bortz, that he's getting talking points.

00:19:51.000 That guy is no libertarian, ladies and gentlemen.

00:19:54.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:30.000 things, mercenaries Amen. 0.99

00:24:33.000 Opening fire and shooting some people. 0.95

00:24:34.000 And they didn't say what it was on CNN.

00:24:37.000 That was the thing.

00:24:39.000 Then they had these two guests on who were going, well, Perez Musharraf's a bad guy and he's killing all these people, but he's really our guy and we need him there to fight Al Qaeda. 0.87

00:24:49.000 And thank goodness he's there.

00:24:53.000 CNN was just defending open martial law.

00:24:57.000 And dragging people out in business suits and beating them and kicking them.

00:25:01.000 What looked like shooting him.

00:25:03.000 And again, I hope I was wrong with what I saw last night, but you're rewinding it now.

00:25:10.000 Is it Chris, did you say?

00:25:11.000 Yeah, my name is Chris.

00:25:12.000 I'm from Boston.

00:25:13.000 I called a couple weeks ago.

00:25:14.000 I'm the CGI artist.

00:25:16.000 I do computer graphics, animation.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, I was, I have a T-bone watch right now.

00:25:21.000 It's a quick clip.

00:25:23.000 It's only like two seconds, almost like they panned over and then they caught it and then they panned back.

00:25:27.000 So you don't really catch it very well.

00:25:30.000 Um, but I... From the flash I saw, it looks like paramilitary folks shooting people.

00:25:36.000 Yes, um, well, it cuts, it catches a muzzle flash, and then it's, you see somebody slump.

00:25:41.000 And it's about, uh, maybe four seconds before they pan away.

00:25:44.000 Well, my eye's pretty good, and just in the flash of seeing it, they're shooting people about ten feet away.

00:25:49.000 They flash, you see them crumple, and that's it.

00:25:51.000 Now, again, I wasn't recording it, so I can't say that's what I saw.

00:25:54.000 You got it.

00:25:55.000 Yeah, um, I'm under infamous killer, that's my CG name.

00:25:59.000 I want to put it up on YouTube.

00:26:00.000 I have my camera here, a TV camera.

00:26:03.000 I don't know how to hook it up to my computer for good quality, but I can take a picture of it, of my TV, put that on the net for you.

00:26:10.000 And it may be nothing.

00:26:11.000 It may be some people on a firefight, but it sure looked like that just in the two, three seconds.

00:26:15.000 I have a question.

00:26:17.000 They're doing the same thing with Budo.

00:26:18.000 Didn't her husband get convicted of all types of war crimes, and now they're saying he's some democracy, wonderful person?

00:26:24.000 Wasn't she thrown out of the country for war crimes? 0.98

00:26:27.000 Yes.

00:26:28.000 You know?

00:26:29.000 This is just horrible.

00:26:30.000 And now they have these new laws that if a child, anybody under the age of 17, is convicted of a felony, they get expelled from every school in the United States.

00:26:40.000 This new law.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, it's all federalization.

00:26:41.000 I don't know if you knew about it.

00:26:43.000 It's total federal control over everything.

00:26:45.000 And the feds are under United Nations regulation under UNESCO.

00:26:50.000 And it's a literal war against humanity by the elite, as the elite circle the wagons against the population.

00:26:57.000 You know, Ron Paul hopefully wins.

00:26:59.000 I mean, I don't see much of a chance for this country if he doesn't win.

00:27:02.000 I'm sorry to say it, but... Well, Chris, Chris, try to isolate exactly what's going on in that video and then call us back, okay?

00:27:09.000 And then email us the video still of it.

00:27:11.000 Okay, I'll email you my YouTube upload.

00:27:14.000 Okay, God bless you.

00:27:16.000 Okay, as for talking points, Neil Bort, Sean Hannity, it was like ten of them, remember about a year ago they went to the White House, sat around, openly got talking points and were told what to say by Bush and thanked for their fake conservatism and keeping the sheep in the pens by posing as conservatives.

00:27:34.000 Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.

00:27:36.000 The neocons' enemies are the conservatives if they woke up in this country, so they keep you under the little watchdog's eyes.

00:27:43.000 But there was no doubt this morning.

00:27:45.000 I was listening to Glenn Beck and I was listening to Bortz.

00:27:47.000 I tuned into some other show and it was all, you wait until the Islamists hit America. 1.00

00:27:51.000 They're about to.

00:27:53.000 The economy is going to implode.

00:27:55.000 It is the Islamists! 1.00

00:27:58.000 I mean, if you slip on a banana peel...

00:28:00.000 It'll probably become some saying that, oh, the Muslims did it. 0.93

00:28:04.000 Or if a thunderstorm comes over your house and tears your roof off, Muslims did it. 1.00

00:28:09.000 Or if you get cancer, Muslims did it. 1.00

00:28:13.000 Or if you get a toothache, Muslims did it. 1.00

00:28:16.000 Or if your wife divorces you, Muslims did it. 1.00

00:28:19.000 I mean, this is getting... 0.99

00:28:21.000 They were actually implying the economy's in trouble because of Muslims, and then saying, and the Muslims, they're going to go in and blow up 50 people in a discotheque here in the U.S. 0.98

00:28:34.000 in a restaurant or something. 0.98

00:28:36.000 This is multiple shows saying this at the same time, by the way, roughly.

00:28:40.000 I'm flipping around.

00:28:41.000 I mean, the scripting is even in unison.

00:28:46.000 The scripting is even in unison now. 0.98

00:28:50.000 And this caller on Neil Bortz is going, yeah, but I'm a Ron Paul libertarian, you know, this war is making the Muslims hate us, making them fight us more, and Neil Bortz says, that's ridiculous.

00:29:00.000 Well, the Pentagon's own P2OG public plan said they were going to go into Iraq, tear the place down, divide it in three parts, and fund different groups to kill each other, and export revolution. 0.92

00:29:10.000 Our government went into secular governments in the last 50, 60 years, overthrew them, and put Muslim extremists in. 1.00

00:29:16.000 Iraq was secular, now it's an Islamic state!

00:29:20.000 And they tell us Iran is Al-Qaeda when they're Shiite, the opposite group! 1.00

00:29:24.000 Neil Borich is a smart guy, 30 years on air, and a lawyer.

00:29:27.000 He knows all that.

00:29:30.000 And he said, I'm simplifying it. 0.93

00:29:32.000 They want to kill us. 1.00

00:29:34.000 We've got to kill them. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Oh, but your King Bush is letting them in at record numbers. 1.00

00:29:40.000 See, it doesn't work like that, punk.

00:29:42.000 And you are. 1.00

00:29:43.000 You're an anti-American traitor, an enemy of the Republic boards. 1.00

00:29:47.000 You know you're a liar. 1.00

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run. 0.99

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00:33:30.000 I've had enough of fake conservative Judas Goats, Benedict Arnolds in our midst. 0.84

00:33:38.000 Posing as conservatives, posing as libertarians.

00:33:44.000 I have had enough of them shilling for the global corporations that are literally ending this nation's sovereignty right now.

00:33:52.000 We are in the jaws of the military-industrial complex that is now foreign-owned. 0.99

00:33:58.000 We are under attack.

00:34:00.000 And I'm not mincing any more words or playing any more games.

00:34:07.000 I am forgetting the maneuvers.

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00:34:15.000 Ramming speed, ladies and gentlemen.

00:34:18.000 Right at them.

00:34:19.000 We're going to board the enemy in the info war. 0.86

00:34:21.000 And we're going to take the fight to their decks.

00:34:25.000 We're going to rake their capital ships' decks in the Infowar, and we're going to go in with the initiative, and we're going to defeat the globalists. 0.98

00:34:32.000 And then we're going to open up all the books of all the paid-for media whores, and all the people on the Pentagon payroll, and I'm telling you right now, you're going to cold, hard shells, and cold, hard, busting rocks, you traitors. 0.94

00:34:47.000 And everybody's going to know, I'm telling you, your enemies of the Republic, I've had enough of you claiming you're defenders of the Republic when you're the opposite! 0.98

00:34:56.000 You tell us cyanide was mother's milk.

00:35:01.000 You try to give us a false choice and act like you're against Hillary when your whole Republican machine is behind her. 0.99

00:35:06.000 It's disgusting.

00:35:09.000 And I, for one, am not going to play games with it anymore.

00:35:12.000 Joe, Mark, Robert, Rich, David, and many, many others that are patiently holding, we're going to get to your calls here in just a few minutes.

00:35:19.000 Program note, I will be at the Alamo Draft House, South Lamar this evening, with a speech at the end, and an extended question and answer at the end of the film.

00:35:30.000 I'll be doing double duty doing the live TV show during the film.

00:35:35.000 And then I am also I'm going to be there tomorrow night at the beginning and the end of the film, the last showing, Alamo Draft House, South Lamar, this Thursday.

00:35:46.000 And I hope to see you there to see Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

00:35:50.000 If you want to get the premiere film exposing the history of the New World Order, who they are, where the Bilderberg Group meets, what their battle plans are, their own documents that we've had our agents basically get info out, steal it, and of course sources inside.

00:36:05.000 It's all there, and then their master plan, the eugenicist.

00:36:09.000 Why they want world government, and once they have it in place, how they plan to forcibly exterminate 80% of the world's population.

00:36:15.000 Dr. Michael Kaufman will be discussing that with us, coming up in the next hour, and we'll have open phones as well.

00:36:22.000 I hope you go to PrisonPlanet.tv right now.

00:36:25.000 I've thrown into the fight 110%.

00:36:28.000 I passed the point of no return a long time ago.

00:36:30.000 I committed 110% more than 12 years ago to this fight and I'm completely given over, completely consumed with the fight against these people and all I ask you to do is it's on that same burning spirit of liberty and freedom.

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00:37:11.000 That's how we're going to bring these criminals to justice, is committing 110% in defense of this republic.

00:37:19.000 That's how we're going to defeat these people instead of just submitting to them over and over again. 0.97

00:37:24.000 I'm tired of submitting to their rape. 0.98

00:37:26.000 I'm tired of them murdering millions of Iraqis in our name in the last 17 years. 0.74

00:37:31.000 I'm tired of them putting cancer viruses in our vaccine and arresting teenagers for marijuana and enslaving us and CPS-ing people's children.

00:37:40.000 I'm not going along with it anymore and I've committed myself to this.

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00:37:49.000 It doesn't matter, I'm committed.

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00:38:32.000 Or you can write to me right here deep in the heart of Texas at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.

00:38:46.000 A lot of people in the system, a lot of people that work for this corrupt government, know now that we've been telling the truth all along.

00:38:52.000 They've spoken out.

00:38:55.000 Individuals in the Pentagon and State Department have exposed the torture.

00:38:59.000 There's good people.

00:39:00.000 We're not alone in this fight, ladies and gentlemen.

00:39:03.000 We need to pray that God give us guidance and put a hedge of protection up around those that are fighting this system.

00:39:09.000 Let me briefly talk more about the economy.

00:39:11.000 You know, when I say I'm speechless on this subject, I'm just dumbfounded.

00:39:15.000 I am flabbergasted.

00:39:17.000 I am stunned.

00:39:21.000 I am taken back.

00:39:23.000 I am staggered.

00:39:25.000 I am buffeted, shaken.

00:39:32.000 In fact, I mean, I don't even know what to say.

00:39:35.000 When it is finally discovered by the average, self-righteous, important, know-it-all, twinkle-eyed yuppie that they have been absolutely robbed.

00:39:48.000 I mean, it's such a magician's trick that the stock market is at $13,400 or whatever, And that for it to be at the purchase value of 2,000, it would have to be well above 20,000 points right now.

00:40:04.000 It would have to be close to 23,000 points right now to just keep the same value that it had in the year 2000.

00:40:17.000 And you have these people who've made 5-10% a year in the stock market, they cannot believe you When you explain to them, people play in the market, they're gambling.

00:40:29.000 Gamblers Anonymous and they don't know it, they should definitely go.

00:40:33.000 And so they willfully are in willful denial and they just refuse to listen to us.

00:40:39.000 If we could have, a few years ago, made this a major issue, gotten people concerned, pointed out that it was a political decision made by the private banks that own this country and much of the planet, From their own documents, we could have politically forced them to not devalue the dollar, and to try to stabilize the economy.

00:41:00.000 Instead, they went with just telling you it's great, while every real indicator went down the toilet.

00:41:06.000 And now, this is going to make thirty-nine, this is going to make twenty-nine, this is going to make the late seventies.

00:41:12.000 Unfortunately, any way you slice it, any way you dice it, any way you cut it would be devastating.

00:41:20.000 But that's why I have so much anxiety now over this.

00:41:27.000 And when I say I'm completely freaked out, I am.

00:41:30.000 Because I know what this is going to do.

00:41:32.000 The folks out there, the yuppies driving their sports utilities and their Lexuses, and I'm not bashing you for that.

00:41:38.000 My point is, that's your God, that's your idol.

00:41:40.000 You put that first.

00:41:41.000 You put it second, it's fine.

00:41:42.000 And third, you've got to put duty and honor and truth and information and love first, and then you can have things.

00:41:48.000 But the point is, that's their God.

00:41:49.000 They're so... Can you imagine them when they find out they're bankrupt?

00:41:53.000 Can you imagine them when they find out they're going to lose everything?

00:41:55.000 Can you imagine how they're going to behave?

00:41:58.000 Well, I said a key point would be, when they plunged the economy, in the week before 9-11, they started plunging the stock market.

00:42:07.000 And then they carried out the 9-11 attacks and said, oh, see, that made it all fall, and everybody blamed the Muslim extremists for hurting their pocketbooks.

00:42:15.000 Well, even if you believe Muslim extremists did it, and don't know the facts, you would still understand that it was already plunging before then.

00:42:24.000 And I've said a tell-tale size when they start saying Muslim extremists are plunging the economy.

00:42:30.000 There's no connection, they don't ever give evidence, they don't ever give facts for that.

00:42:36.000 You know, that's like saying of a water faucet bust in your kitchen that Al-Qaeda did it. 0.56

00:42:42.000 It has as much validity.

00:42:44.000 But I'm now hearing them say that.

00:42:45.000 Heaven help us.

00:42:46.000 I mean, the public is so mindless.

00:42:48.000 Those that aren't awake.

00:42:49.000 You've got one crowd waking up more than ever and becoming enlightened. 1.00

00:42:52.000 The other crowd getting even more willfully dumb and slovenly and arrogant in their ignorance. 0.99

00:43:01.000 When they find out That this has happened. 1.00

00:43:03.000 A lot of them are going to become more police state supportive.

00:43:06.000 They're going to become more wild-eyed.

00:43:08.000 They're going to tell the government, you do whatever you want, you just give us our economy back.

00:43:16.000 And it's all a tool of control, and to see gold pushing its 1980 all-time record, about to break its all-time record, and I think it'll do it today, we've still got two and a half hours Until, or more than that, until 4 o'clock Eastern when gold closes, and it's gyrating between 833 and 837.

00:43:41.000 In overseas trading last night, it went above 840, but we're talking about spot gold here in the United States.

00:43:49.000 Gold futures and gold stocks are already way above that.

00:43:54.000 Futures on gold are well above 840 right now.

00:43:59.000 I'm not saying they're betting in the future that it will go above that.

00:44:01.000 I think that's a safe bet.

00:44:03.000 Whether it'll be today or tomorrow or next week, next month, I don't know.

00:44:07.000 But we're now at the point where you could wake up any morning and the banks will have closed their doors.

00:44:13.000 It's already happened in Northern Rock.

00:44:14.000 It's already happening with the biggest bank in France.

00:44:18.000 It's already happened with Countrywide, the second largest mortgage lender.

00:44:21.000 Citigroup is gyrating, just toppling, a shaking house of cards and a big gust of wind is on its way.

00:44:29.000 And you try to talk about P.E.

00:44:30.000 ratios, you try to talk about derivatives, you talk about leveraged companies like J.P.

00:44:38.000 Morgan with 80 plus trillion, 30 plus trillion Bank of America, 30 plus trillion Citigroup.

00:44:46.000 They don't even know.

00:44:47.000 You might as well be talking Martian or Octarian to them.

00:44:51.000 You might as well be talking Palladian to these people.

00:44:54.000 They don't even, they can't even understand us folks when you try to warn them, when you try to talk to them.

00:44:59.000 That's what George Orwell talked about, where they've destroyed the language and the meaning of words to the point of, they know how to act tough at the steakhouse, they know how to act cool at the golf course, they know how to act cool with their buddies and act like know-it-alls and posture.

00:45:14.000 And they know how to run around talking about Islamic fascists and sticking NRA stickers all over their cars, not knowing that group literally was the fathers of the first gun control and the new gun control bill. 0.83

00:45:25.000 They just can't believe that the illusion that they were sold was a fraud.

00:45:32.000 And the people do perish for lack of knowledge.

00:45:35.000 Knowledge is the key to power.

00:45:38.000 And by power, the power to live your own life and be left alone and be successful.

00:45:44.000 There is no doubt that things are worse than I even thought and moving quicker than I thought.

00:45:48.000 I tried to say it'd be middle of next year. 0.85

00:45:49.000 The next year after that I try to push it off and try to put perfume on a pig.

00:45:55.000 But you can dress it up however you want.

00:45:57.000 We're hurtling towards World War III.

00:45:59.000 We're hurtling towards total devaluation of the dollar.

00:46:02.000 We're hurtling towards government-sponsored terror.

00:46:04.000 The FEMA camps are built.

00:46:06.000 The wannabe dictators are in power.

00:46:08.000 Hillary's waiting in the wings. 0.55

00:46:09.000 The talk show hosts are bought and paid for.

00:46:12.000 And we are plummeting down into absolute despotism.

00:46:16.000 And I just don't want that for my family and my children, or for anybody else's family for that matter.

00:46:22.000 Because I've got my head screwed on straight, ladies and gentlemen.

00:46:25.000 And I know that if bad things are happening to other people overseas, it's going to come back on me, even if I fought it.

00:46:31.000 That's the way it works.

00:46:32.000 And I know we've aborted 50 million babies.

00:46:35.000 And I know we've killed tens of thousands of children in radiation experiments and troops.

00:46:41.000 And I know, I say we, we're all part of this sick system over here.

00:46:45.000 We took the freest, greatest nation in history and turned it into nothing but a burnout cesspit.

00:46:53.000 And I'm bracing!

00:46:54.000 It's just like when I was driving down the road from visiting family out in Fredericksburg, and we hit Stonewall, about to go into Johnson City.

00:47:00.000 It was raining real hard, the wind was blowing real hard, and I slowed down from 60 down to 45.

00:47:05.000 We were driving down with a 30-foot embankment on each side, and all of a sudden, a tornado came through and shoved us right off the road.

00:47:11.000 And those three seconds before we slammed into those oak trees, and it crushed half the car in, it just gave us concussions, thank God.

00:47:17.000 It would have killed us.

00:47:18.000 It would have hit us on the side.

00:47:20.000 Those three seconds were like three minutes, and I remember in slow motion hearing myself say, brace for impact.

00:47:29.000 And the steering wheel bending, we hit so hard, and the seats we were in, breaking from the shock.

00:47:38.000 And the state police pull up literally minutes later and say, you see that barn just get torn up?

00:47:42.000 You got hit by a tornado.

00:47:44.000 And they're really nice guys.

00:47:45.000 I got fire ants all over me.

00:47:46.000 I was stumbling around in the mud.

00:47:47.000 And they pulled up and helped us good servants, good men, good peace officers.

00:47:52.000 They're both fans, by the way.

00:47:53.000 And it's the exact same thing, but instead of three seconds being three minutes, it's like a couple months, a couple weeks being like years.

00:48:03.000 I'm just sitting here going, oh no!

00:48:07.000 Brace for impact!

00:48:08.000 I mean, just multiple torpedo salvos coming in, and I'm just screaming, brace for impact! 0.96

00:48:14.000 And the yuppies are dancing around going, it's limo fascist! 0.98

00:48:17.000 It's limo fascist! 0.94

00:48:19.000 Central bankers have totally gutted the country, totally set us up for collapse, funded all the Islamic extremists, documented history, hijackers train at U.S.

00:48:28.000 basis, publicly on the payroll, public attack, I'm real time big, I've gotten, I frankly don't even like it, but I have to just continue to commit to this fight.

00:48:36.000 Brace for impact.

00:48:48.000 I hacked. 0.98

00:48:50.000 But once it hits, I was in another car at one time where the car flipped three times when I was a teenager, and we were acting like idiots racing across a bridge, across a lake, from Rockwall into Dallas. 0.99

00:48:50.000 Boom! 0.99

00:49:12.000 I shouldn't even tell these stories.

00:49:13.000 I remember that slow motion.

00:49:15.000 But the Corvette in front of us that crashed, they didn't have their seatbelts on, and I saw them spinning through the air as the car was flipping end over end.

00:49:24.000 Out the window, I could see it in slow motion.

00:49:26.000 Our brains are incredible, folks.

00:49:28.000 Well, it's the same thing, but instead it's weeks and months stretched out, and I'm seeing it race for impact, and it's like a hundred years.

00:49:39.000 And all I want to do All I want to do is try to warn people.

00:49:50.000 try to warn people.

00:49:54.000 All I want to do is warn you.

00:50:01.000 I mean, it's a simple instinct.

00:50:03.000 It's like, I live up the hill 10 miles, and I see the big dam break, and I got a helicopter, and I jump in it, or I jump on the radio, better analogy, and I tell people down in the valley, hey, listen, the dam broke.

00:50:14.000 There's 20 feet of water coming at you at 60 miles an hour.

00:50:17.000 Run for your lives, and they just giggle.

00:50:21.000 Because it's just... And I know that when they set off attacks and launch wars, those...

00:50:30.000 A bunch of people will rally around these killers again and they just get away with it.

00:50:35.000 The good news is people know now.

00:50:36.000 They're waking up though and at least we're not going to go quietly into the night.

00:50:41.000 We're not going to completely submit to all of this.

00:50:45.000 We're going to go down with a fight.

00:50:48.000 With God's help, maybe even win.

00:50:50.000 Stay with us.

00:50:50.000 We'll be right back here on GCN Radio Network.

00:50:53.000 It is a big idea.

00:51:00.000 A new world order.

00:51:03.000 In the near future, birth is dominated by a powerful new government.

00:51:08.000 It's known as the Bilderbergs.

00:51:10.000 Isn't their objective being world domination?

00:51:13.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

00:51:16.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the new world order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.

00:51:27.000 For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.

00:51:32.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

00:51:36.000 Bill Burgess makes great progress toward a world government.

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00:51:40.000 They're not after money.

00:51:41.000 They have all the money they need.

00:51:42.000 They're after power.

00:51:42.000 That's what happens.

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00:53:58.000 We met other whistleblowers on the side of the road in Maryland.

00:54:03.000 You know, to hear what they could tell us.

00:54:05.000 None of them revealed state secrets to us, by the way.

00:54:09.000 But they had information and basically the government knew, you know, other than the exact moment, they knew the date and the method of which the attacks were supposed to come.

00:54:22.000 And none of this made it to mainstream media.

00:54:25.000 None of it made it into the commission.

00:54:28.000 And yet, again, all of your representatives on the day that the commission book came out were on their pulpits saying, what a fabulous job this commission has done, a real service to this nation.

00:54:41.000 And it was anything but a service.

00:54:44.000 It was a complete fabrication.

00:54:47.000 Other than the exact, perhaps, time, you know, because planes don't always go off on time.

00:54:54.000 They knew the date.

00:54:55.000 They knew the method.

00:54:56.000 That it's going to be with airplanes?

00:54:59.000 We're going to be getting her on the show, Jersey Girl, Patty Kazzazza. 0.81

00:55:06.000 Folks, I had a showing of Endgame Monday night at the Delamo Draft House, and these fellows who work for, let's just say the biggest internet technology company out there, had flown in all the way from San Francisco, two fellows and their girlfriends, And he told me the name of somebody who had rung a bell of a prominent FBI agent.

00:55:26.000 He said, yeah, we work with this guy.

00:55:29.000 He got fired from that.

00:55:30.000 Now he's the head of our IT security.

00:55:32.000 And he admits that he ran the terrorist cells.

00:55:35.000 And the guys are real serious.

00:55:37.000 So I went home and Googled his name.

00:55:38.000 I'm like, oh, I remember this guy.

00:55:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:41.000 Peter Lance wrote all about this, former ABC Nightly News producer.

00:55:45.000 Wrote the book, Triple Cross.

00:55:46.000 I got to get him on.

00:55:49.000 And, uh, Right there, just there it was, and it was even in the news.

00:55:54.000 See, I mean, there's so much, I don't even know it all.

00:55:57.000 It's just all hidden in plain view, ladies and gentlemen.

00:56:00.000 I mean, do we know exactly what happened that day?

00:56:02.000 No.

00:56:03.000 Do we know they were all U.S. 0.93

00:56:04.000 government agents?

00:56:05.000 Have I interviewed the embassy heads who were ordered to let them in?

00:56:07.000 They were CIA officers?

00:56:09.000 CIA officers.

00:56:11.000 Officers.

00:56:14.000 Officers.

00:56:15.000 ATTA and all of them.

00:56:18.000 Yeah, I was just wondering what I could do to help Ron Paul in Iowa.

00:56:21.000 All out there.

00:56:22.000 Now, I know I said we'd take your calls.

00:56:24.000 I've got Dr. Michael Coffin coming up.

00:56:25.000 Maybe we'll have him hold a few minutes while I get to everybody.

00:56:28.000 Joe in Iowa, you're on the year worldwide, Joe.

00:56:32.000 Go ahead.

00:56:32.000 Yeah, I was just wondering what I could do to help Ron Paul in Iowa, make sure he makes the debates.

00:56:42.000 Get a stencil, make a stencil, or pay a place to do it, and hand spray paint up.

00:56:50.000 They can even be butcher paper, but use permanent ink.

00:56:53.000 Ron Paul Revolution, ronpaul2008.com.

00:56:56.000 And individually, go make 20 of those and put those up.

00:57:01.000 There's no one I can talk to about the debates, though, how you said it earlier.

00:57:06.000 They're talking about banning him and we have the article up on JonesReport.com.

00:57:09.000 Call the Republican Party traitors of Iowa and just let those slime bags know that everybody knows he's a first tier candidate and how dare them even discuss it.

00:57:21.000 Maybe some of them are good on there, I'm not saying they're all bad, but just the discussing is bad.

00:57:26.000 No number I can call?

00:57:27.000 You don't have it on you?

00:57:29.000 Actually, I do have it here.

00:57:31.000 Let me dig it out.

00:57:32.000 I'm saying you can just go to JonesReport.com.

00:57:34.000 Do you have a computer, sir?

00:57:35.000 No, I'm on it though.

00:57:38.000 Okay, Republican Party of Iowa, 515-282-808.

00:57:45.000 I can't.

00:57:48.000 Listen, I appreciate your call, sir.

00:57:49.000 Let me just give it to you on air, okay?

00:57:54.000 515.

00:57:54.000 It's hard to spoon feed here, folks.

00:57:56.000 I just don't have the time for it.

00:57:57.000 515-282-8105.

00:57:58.000 I'm just too tired to put up an act, folks.

00:58:01.000 I just don't have time to play games anymore.

00:58:04.000 515-282-8105, okay?

00:58:04.000 There it is.

00:58:05.000 don't have time to play games anymore.

00:58:06.000 515-282-8105, okay?

00:58:10.000 There it is.

00:58:13.000 There's conflicting reports.

00:58:15.000 Maybe in the third hour we have time we'll get into that.

00:58:18.000 We've got a guy in the mid-90s.

00:58:21.000 I'm a big football fan.

00:58:22.000 I just attacked it because it becomes a distraction from serious issues.

00:58:26.000 But I was a fan.

00:58:27.000 A bunch of people in my office are.

00:58:28.000 You know, we're Dallas Cowboy fans around here.

00:58:31.000 For this fella that's coming up later.

00:58:34.000 So stay with us.

00:58:37.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

00:58:45.000 Hi.

00:58:48.000 Hi.

00:58:54.000 Big Brother.

00:58:55.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:57.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:59.000 You want answers?

00:59:00.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:01.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:06.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:11.000 Now into our number two, Dr. Michael Kaufman, coming up here in about 10 minutes or so.

00:59:18.000 You're ever in our prayers.

00:59:18.000 Hello, bro.

00:59:19.000 Dallas Cowboy, champion lineman Mark Stepnoski joining us, two-time Super Bowl winner, five-time Pro Bowler.

00:59:27.000 Going public for 9-11 Truth.

00:59:29.000 He'll be joining us in the next hour.

00:59:31.000 Very honored to have him coming on the transmission with us.

00:59:34.000 Let's try to get through some of your calls.

00:59:36.000 Mark in Atlanta, Georgia, welcome.

00:59:38.000 Hello, bro.

00:59:40.000 You're ever in our prayers.

00:59:41.000 I understand you're being distraught, as am I.

00:59:45.000 I am heartbroken.

00:59:48.000 I've heard about the Reese Commission, and I've looked online and had a bit of difficulty finding a concise summary.

00:59:56.000 The former State Director of the John Birch Society told me there were like 4,000 pages of documents regarding this.

01:00:05.000 And I don't know what it is, just in a nutshell, tell them.

01:00:09.000 Well, basically, there was an investigation back in the fifties of the non-profit organizations, primarily the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, that they were like, they're up to something.

01:00:21.000 And who was the head staffer on that?

01:00:24.000 He's real famous.

01:00:25.000 I interviewed him before he died.

01:00:27.000 There's a two hour... Was that a Dodd?

01:00:30.000 No, that was Senator Dodd.

01:00:30.000 Yes.

01:00:32.000 No, no, no.

01:00:32.000 There was a...

01:00:36.000 Yeah, he was like 90 years old and gave a pretty cogent interview before he died.

01:00:41.000 It's on Google.

01:00:43.000 I just can't remember his name.

01:00:45.000 Right.

01:00:45.000 Well, the thing is that they said that basically these nonprofit organizations had a hidden in plain sight kind of agenda.

01:00:53.000 Yeah, the Carnegie Endowment for Peace, as early as the 20s, and the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, see, the billions of dollars, that was billions 80 years ago, 90 years ago, they all went tax free.

01:01:07.000 And then they used their, their mansions are owned by the foundation, their helicopters, their oil companies, it's all tax free.

01:01:15.000 Just like the Gates, Bill and Melinda Gates things now tax-free, all 60-something trillion of it.

01:01:19.000 Well, no, it's more than 60 trillion.

01:01:21.000 It's 70-plus trillion now.

01:01:23.000 Keeps growing.

01:01:24.000 And it's all tax-free, and they publicly say they're going to set up world government.

01:01:28.000 I have read the documents.

01:01:29.000 I've interviewed the people that were staffers on it.

01:01:31.000 They're all dead now, but being around 12, 13 years, I interviewed a few of them before they died.

01:01:35.000 And yeah, I'd have to go back into all my files on that, but what specifically are you looking for?

01:01:39.000 Well, yeah, the thing is that they would use the instrumentality of war, which I gather means the opening of the purse strings, the false sense of peace.

01:01:47.000 Yeah, that's the Carnegie Foundation for Peace saying they would use war to bring in their world government, yeah.

01:01:53.000 Well, war is peace, of course. 0.97

01:01:54.000 They said war is the great organizing factor.

01:01:57.000 Right.

01:01:58.000 Yes, well, my website, I'll be the first to admit, is a wreck if doyoulovejesus.org, letter U, And I'm preparing a letter, in all fairness to Muslims, because I see this neoconsteady stream of vilification that it's like there's nobody being allowed to present the other side to say, wait a minute, these people, you know, it's the same old tactic of vilify somebody way over there.

01:01:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:26.000 It's like, well, we need to deal with the problem here before we have any moral justification.

01:02:33.000 I understand that Dr. Paul is a seasoned veteran of the political minefield.

01:02:37.000 There's ammunition he doesn't use because I get the impression that if he did use it, it would They would distort it and make it sound like, well, he's crazy, like the Reeves Commission and the Grace Commission.

01:02:51.000 Would you concur with that, that the reason why he doesn't use these certain... Well, he knows.

01:02:55.000 I mean, he's talked about the tax-free foundations and the New World Order.

01:02:58.000 He's introduced bills.

01:02:59.000 He's on TV.

01:03:00.000 He knows he's talking to people that literally can't tie their shoelaces.

01:03:03.000 Right.

01:03:04.000 And so he dumbs it down.

01:03:06.000 I take it these are... What he says about these things is available in his writings, then, right?

01:03:13.000 Yes, and all the legislation he's introduced, and all of it.

01:03:17.000 Yes.

01:03:18.000 Well, you know that it is written, they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.

01:03:23.000 And for a lot of people, it's that they don't want to deal with the truth when the truth is painful.

01:03:28.000 This thing called godly sorrow is vitally important.

01:03:32.000 We've got to jump.

01:03:32.000 I hear you.

01:03:33.000 We've got to go.

01:03:35.000 But when you're in denial long enough, that leads to ruin.

01:03:39.000 TruthNews.us is the new website.

01:03:41.000 Be sure and check it out.

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01:03:43.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls and Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:03:50.000 It is a big idea.

01:03:51.000 A new world order.

01:03:54.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful group of governments.

01:03:59.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

01:04:02.000 Won't their objective be world domination?

01:04:05.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

01:04:08.000 Now as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.97

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01:04:24.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

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01:04:31.000 They're not after money.

01:04:32.000 They have all the money they need.

01:04:33.000 They're after power.

01:04:34.000 That's what they're after usually.

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01:06:49.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

01:06:54.000 Because there's a war on for your mind Dr. Michael Kaufman has a PhD in in Forest Ecology.

01:07:11.000 He's a biologist and a...

01:07:15.000 He was doing a multi-million dollar study for the U.S.

01:07:17.000 government on the forest ecology of the entire U.S.

01:07:20.000 and discovered that it wasn't about helping the earth, it was about taking control of property and controlling populations.

01:07:26.000 That was back in the 80s and he helped shoot down the big biological diversity treaty that would have totally regulated everything that's happening.

01:07:34.000 Now they're pushing man-made global warming. 0.97

01:07:37.000 Certainly there's crises in the environment, but the sun is what's heating the earth.

01:07:41.000 We've gone over that here.

01:07:42.000 His new film Global Warming or Global Government.

01:07:46.000 Available at LetInfoWars.com.

01:07:48.000 And he's one of the big contributors to the new film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

01:07:55.000 And I would add to that, that I'm just now announcing this, in about two weeks, or on the 28th of November, we're going to release close to two hours.

01:08:08.000 Really, you could call it Endgame 1.5.

01:08:12.000 All of the interviews with Dr. Kaufman, Daniel Estillan, Jim Tucker, stuff at Brook Street, the police harassing us in Canada, things that we couldn't put in the film.

01:08:21.000 I mean, right now it looks like more than two hours, but we'll see how much we end up, it might be three hours we put up, I'm not sure.

01:08:27.000 But another reason to have a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, that is coming up the 28th!

01:08:32.000 And you'll be able to download those, burn them to disk at prisonplanet.tv, get them out to people.

01:08:37.000 And Dr. Kaufman, of course, is probably an hour of that two, three hours we're going to put out.

01:08:40.000 So much vital info in the two days he was here that we interviewed him.

01:08:44.000 He ended up being about seven, eight minutes of the two-hour-plus film and really a great contributor to it.

01:08:50.000 In fact, he's one of the most prominent voices in the film.

01:08:53.000 But there was just so much we couldn't have a four- or five-hour film, so we had to cut a lot of it out.

01:08:57.000 But you will be able to see that in these expanded in-game extras that aren't on the DVD.

01:09:02.000 There's 40 minutes of extras on the DVD.

01:09:04.000 that are really just parts we cut out of the film as well, highly produced.

01:09:07.000 A lot of this is just the raw, high-powered info and presentations, and then a lot of other things happening, so that is coming out in March.

01:09:15.000 Going to Dr. Michael Kaufman, I haven't really asked him yet what he thought of the film.

01:09:19.000 He just now saw it yesterday.

01:09:22.000 I've been so busy, I neglected to even mail him a copy, so we gave him a prisonplanet.tv code.

01:09:28.000 He said he watched about two hours and ten minutes of the two-hour film and ran out of time last night.

01:09:32.000 But Dr. Kaufman, what did you think of the film?

01:09:35.000 I thought it was incredible.

01:09:37.000 I really do.

01:09:37.000 I think everyone that's listening to this needs to get a copy because it really defines what has been happening, how they're doing it, and what they're expecting to get in the future.

01:09:47.000 And people need to wake up.

01:09:49.000 It is one of the most earth-shattering DVDs I have ever seen in a truthful approach.

01:09:54.000 You know, I have been in this now for almost 20 years, and everything that you're saying in there I know is either solid fact because I've researched it myself or have read enough to realize that there is that emphasis on that particular subject that I may not know as much about.

01:10:10.000 And it is incredible what you have done with this, Alex.

01:10:13.000 I just kind of fear for your safety.

01:10:16.000 Oh, I literally, you ever have that feeling?

01:10:22.000 I certainly know that I've really crossed a line here, but I'm putting that all in God's hands.

01:10:28.000 Breaking down the film, because you're a big part of it, walk through what you thought, seeing about 90% of it so far because you just got it yesterday, walk through the parts that you thought were most important, or give us your impromptu review.

01:10:41.000 Boy, trying to define what's the most important is really tough, because I think it's all important.

01:10:47.000 If you need to understand, and this may be the most important aspect, what the DVD does, if you can keep an open mind, if you're not really aware of the magnitude of what's going on in the world, it will be so shocking, it will almost make you physically sick.

01:11:01.000 But at the same time, what it does, is it allows the person to see the magnitude of what they're attempting to do over an entire society.

01:11:10.000 In all aspects of our society, what we do, the whole feminist movement, you name it, It's in there in one form or another, and it's all designed to break down the normal society controls and re-establish itself, what they want to do, as the new template for our culture and bringing the nations together as a world government. 0.54

01:11:31.000 There's no question after you see this that this is exactly what they're trying to do.

01:11:36.000 What I really was impressed with is how you have brought the various segments of this Using headlines of local papers and so forth to show what they're doing in putting all of this together.

01:11:46.000 The average person can't see this because all they're seeing is little bits and pieces.

01:11:53.000 They see this headline and they think, oh that's interesting, but they see it in an isolated context.

01:11:58.000 What you have done is been able to put that together in a total, in a totality as it were, so that people can really begin to see how it all fits together.

01:12:06.000 It's the first time I've ever seen that.

01:12:09.000 You know, we didn't talk before the show, and I haven't talked to you in a few months since you were last on, but that is exactly, and I never really even said that on air, that's what I was intending to do, was to give people the, you know, start to finish, just a wide view of what their ideology is, who they are, what their plan is, what drives them.

01:12:09.000 Well, that's incredible.

01:12:29.000 Exactly.

01:12:30.000 Exactly.

01:12:31.000 And some of these, you only touch on, for instance, at least at this point, you only touched on global warming to some extent.

01:12:37.000 My whole DVD Global warming or global governance really focuses on that one issue by itself and shows clearly how they have abused science and totally denied the opposition any voice in the media and so forth to push this agenda so that they can get those controls that will come with the carbon taxes and caps and so forth that is inevitable.

01:13:01.000 It's going to happen in the next several years, how those controls will control us.

01:13:06.000 And you've done that with so many aspects of this Well, that's it.

01:13:09.000 particular agenda.

01:13:10.000 It is in every aspect of our culture.

01:13:12.000 And some of you focused on and gone very deeply into to show how deep this whole thing is to provide the credibility.

01:13:20.000 Some of you only touched on because you just don't have time.

01:13:23.000 You can't cover it in two hours.

01:13:24.000 Well, that's it.

01:13:25.000 I mean, we did spend a lot of time on eugenics and then all the thousands of admissions of where they've killed U.S., British, and other citizens in admitted tests. 0.84

01:13:35.000 I mean, that shows the cold bloodedness and how it's all done scientifically, though, but as if we have the same value as a white lab rat.

01:13:44.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:13:45.000 Now, eugenics isn't my specialty.

01:13:46.000 I'm not real knowledgeable in that area, but I have read enough material to know that what you're saying is factual, and it's taken me deeper into that area.

01:13:55.000 It's given me some additional information, and you'll find this.

01:13:59.000 Individually, you can't possibly understand everything in this global agenda.

01:14:04.000 No one person really can.

01:14:05.000 Well, that's right.

01:14:06.000 I mean, you could study one pine tree, as you know, that's your specialty, for your whole life and never know everything about that pine tree.

01:14:12.000 We read, more than one guy here in the office, read 20 books by these people.

01:14:17.000 I read about 10.

01:14:19.000 We went to libraries.

01:14:20.000 And exactly, I mean, you're talking about hundreds of thousands of globalists and their minions and their whole lives' works.

01:14:27.000 I mean, it's just...

01:14:31.000 It's so big.

01:14:32.000 That's the point I want to make.

01:14:34.000 We didn't even... People say, oh, this is really dark, or this is really... You might have exaggerated.

01:14:39.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:14:40.000 It's thousands of times worse.

01:14:43.000 I mean, it really is.

01:14:44.000 I cannot explain to you what would you say in all your years of research about the globalists and the UN Biological Diversity Assessments where they openly talk about exterminating the majority of us and reducing us. 0.93

01:14:54.000 I mean, as you were discovering that, what was it like for you realizing, my gosh, these people are nuts, they're psychopaths, they believe they're good, and they're in power. 0.90

01:15:04.000 Exactly. 0.97

01:15:05.000 I went from one state of shock to another, and you know, what you have just said is very true.

01:15:09.000 You start opening up this can of worms, and you think you have a handle on what's going on, and then you find out there's another dimension to it, and another dimension to it, and another dimension to it, and it gets worse, and worse, and worse, and I don't even think you probably plumbed the depths of deprivation that these people are in.

01:15:27.000 They are evil incarnate.

01:15:29.000 There's no other way that you can describe them.

01:15:30.000 And yet, they believe that they are doing the right thing.

01:15:36.000 Doc, I want to talk about your video that's doing incredibly well because it's so well documented, and I want to go to the basics of global warming is happening, but it's sun-driven and also particle-driven from space, solar winds, but where do you see all this going?

01:15:51.000 I mean, do you feel the same anxiousness I feel, and everybody else feels, that it's accelerating?

01:15:56.000 And where do you see this going?

01:15:58.000 I really see, in the next two years, Something precipitous is going to happen.

01:16:03.000 In fact, David Rockefeller and Kissinger and others have actually said that they need a precipitous event to tip us over the edge.

01:16:11.000 9-11 got us prepared and we got the Patriots Act and so forth put into place because of that and now they need a precipitous event in which they can Use our fear against us, and will that bring us some sort of an answer?

01:16:27.000 I think it's going to be an economic crisis of some sort.

01:16:30.000 I mean, we're running the brink of it right now anyway.

01:16:33.000 And they have the only solution, and to do that we have to give up even more, and it's going to put us over on the other side of that slope.

01:16:42.000 I think it's very close.

01:16:44.000 Well, I agree.

01:16:45.000 They see us as a disease, and so that's the perfect rationale for a thug Or a group of killers is just to say, oh, well, they're animals anyways.

01:16:53.000 That's what they always do. 0.99

01:16:55.000 They did that with black slaves out of Africa saying they weren't human. 0.57

01:16:58.000 I mean, you've been to these global meetings.

01:16:59.000 You've covered these people.

01:17:01.000 I've been to some of them.

01:17:03.000 They literally look like cult members, you know, who have that wide-eyed look and are almost pious, very religious.

01:17:10.000 I mean, they almost act like they're holy or something.

01:17:15.000 Well, I'm glad you brought that point up because I want to emphasize the one thing that you did not emphasize very much.

01:17:20.000 You alluded to it a couple of times.

01:17:23.000 This whole thing is occult driven.

01:17:26.000 They are very deeply into the occult.

01:17:29.000 They believe in theosophy and what Alice Bailey has done with that belief system of reaching godhood and so forth.

01:17:37.000 They're really into that.

01:17:39.000 They really do believe that they are gods, and they need to be able to control us, to get rid of most of us.

01:17:44.000 They believe that the Earth is overpopulated. 0.97

01:17:47.000 They need to eliminate two-thirds to three-quarters, eighty percent of the human population, of the dumber sect and so forth, as you and I. And then they'll be able to manage the world the way gods should be able to manage. 1.00

01:18:01.000 It is really incredible, their mentality.

01:18:05.000 When you really get down to it.

01:18:06.000 Now, many of the people at these international meetings, when you enter these international meetings, it is like walking into the Twilight Zone.

01:18:15.000 Any semblance to reality just slides right out the window at times.

01:18:19.000 It's not always that way, but many times, it is like they start talking about different things in ways that just are not possible.

01:18:28.000 Stay there, I want to talk about that on the other side, to understand our enemy, to understand their mindset.

01:18:33.000 And then to realize how they're conning a lot of well-meaning people who do care about the environment.

01:18:38.000 And how they're using this to totally control our human environment and put a tax on breathing.

01:18:42.000 We'll be right back.

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01:23:35.000 Doctor, again, the mindset of these people, they think they're doing holy work, but then you also study them, they also think darkness is wonderful and beautiful, as well as light.

01:23:48.000 They, quote, embrace it all.

01:23:49.000 Go ahead.

01:23:50.000 Yes, they do.

01:23:51.000 In fact, one of the things that is very prominent with the whole concept of theosophy is what is known as the secret societies and so forth, so that you do not know what the next level of initiation will be.

01:24:07.000 And as a consequence, you're always striving to get to that next secret level of evolution, as it were, into higher states of knowledge.

01:24:15.000 And as a consequence, what that does is it always keeps people off their guard, that they have to join the system in order to have these truths revealed to them, which is totally antithetical to a Christian society that we originally established this nation on. 0.91

01:24:31.000 It doesn't exist anymore, but we originally established this nation on, which was open truth.

01:24:38.000 You have everything that you need to have right available to you.

01:24:41.000 It's up to you to take it and run with it.

01:24:44.000 With these secret societies, it's always a situation in which you have to prove yourself to be worthy of going to the next step in order to accept the next level of knowledge.

01:24:55.000 this gnosis these I mean how do we stop these people I don't I think what you're doing is absolutely essential.

01:25:06.000 You mentioned on the video that More and more people are becoming aware, and that is very true.

01:25:11.000 I kind of take a look at what I produced on global warming or global governance.

01:25:17.000 That's kind of an introductory DVD, as it were, as to the realization that we are having this drive towards global governance.

01:25:24.000 I don't get into it very deep, because I'm trying to reach those people who believe that you and I are black helicopter nuts and so forth.

01:25:31.000 Well, here you have really important people saying the same thing that we're saying, but on a much lighter level.

01:25:38.000 And once they begin to expose, and that's one of the things that has encouraged me about this DVD, is that I'm getting feedback from people that have been seeing it, which they had no understanding of global governance, or if they did, they thought it was some sort of a nutcase conspiracy type of thing.

01:25:52.000 All of a sudden realizing, because there it is right in front of them, with this global warming agenda, that the whole purpose is to create global governance, and they're angry.

01:26:00.000 Now, once they're angry, you can take a DVD like Endgame, And really show them the breadth of it.

01:26:06.000 Now they're going to go into a state of absolute shock when they see it.

01:26:09.000 I mean, I did.

01:26:10.000 I think everybody who has really investigated this could never believe the levels of what they have gone to to create this control over you and I and how long it's taken.

01:26:21.000 I mean, it's taken multiple, multiple generations of men.

01:26:24.000 That's why you have to understand it's the occult.

01:26:26.000 You can't understand why A man would put so much of their efforts into an agenda which they would never see the fruition unless they realized it was a religious belief that they held that their future generations are going to benefit by what they're doing today.

01:26:41.000 I agree, but also in the secular, it's like a 250-year-old university like Harvard or Yale.

01:26:49.000 The chancellors and people that own it and run it want to increase its power and wealth because they sit in the positions of power while they're over it, but then they also have a feeling towards the institution, a lot of times the patronage and nepotism for those beneath them, and so that's also how these institutions grow and maintain their a lot of times the patronage and nepotism for those beneath Absolutely, and it's very interesting as I've attended a lot of these international meetings, the vast majority of those who are attending

01:27:17.000 I have no concept of what the final agenda is going to be.

01:27:20.000 Even people who are in positions of power.

01:27:23.000 You mentioned that in your DVD.

01:27:24.000 They're compartmentalized.

01:27:26.000 They're compartmentalized.

01:27:27.000 They think that they are doing the right thing, because people who are more important than they are, are telling them that they're doing the right things, and they can see the fruits.

01:27:35.000 You know, socialism, the only reason socialism could survive, is the promise that if you did this, created all men equal and so forth, or treated all men equally, not created all men equally, Then somehow this is going to bloom into a utopian society.

01:27:48.000 But for that model, you've got to have command and control and somebody over the individual.

01:27:54.000 Now you've lost the individual and that's the trick.

01:27:56.000 Now you've gotten a system where higher-ups can control you.

01:28:00.000 Absolutely.

01:28:01.000 Absolutely.

01:28:02.000 Socialism is the unique way of gaining control over the population because it does exactly what you're saying.

01:28:08.000 And of course the British monarchs literally funded and developed it, Lord Milner and the rest of them, as a way to get people back into serfdom. 0.68

01:28:16.000 Yes.

01:28:16.000 And people don't realize that.

01:28:18.000 That's why we're losing our middle class right now.

01:28:21.000 Absolutely.

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01:33:01.000 And I want to take some, but I want to make it clear.

01:33:04.000 Because I've talked to you in the past, and I know we're of the same mind, the same research.

01:33:07.000 This is what you have degrees in.

01:33:08.000 This is what you study.

01:33:10.000 And thousands of other prominent scientists and university experts have gone public on this.

01:33:16.000 We know that there's dioxin from the plastics.

01:33:18.000 We know there's toxins and stuff in the air.

01:33:20.000 We know there's bad things in the environment.

01:33:22.000 Genetic engineering can be dangerous if it's released openly and in chimera-crossed species.

01:33:27.000 There's a lot of serious things going on.

01:33:30.000 But the globalists have openly stated they're using conservation and our concern about the Earth to set up world government, to set up total federalization, to have control over people locally, to control markets.

01:33:44.000 And to control populations.

01:33:46.000 And that we know that from 9,000 to 6,000 years ago, the earth was on average 10 degrees hotter.

01:33:53.000 There were vineyards in southern and northern England.

01:33:56.000 You can't grow grapes there now, folks.

01:33:59.000 We know that that's when humanity blooms.

01:34:01.000 We know that's when the plankton blooms.

01:34:02.000 We know that oxygen with higher carbon dioxide creates more life.

01:34:08.000 Carbon dioxide is not a toxic waste, as they're trying to list it.

01:34:11.000 Two weeks ago, they set a coal plant Couldn't burn clean-burning coal.

01:34:15.000 They locked that up, as you know.

01:34:17.000 But they didn't sell them.

01:34:18.000 They couldn't have a permit because of dirty coal and mercury, which I'm concerned about.

01:34:21.000 They said, oh, carbon dioxide's a toxic waste.

01:34:23.000 Permit denied.

01:34:24.000 So that's a great control.

01:34:26.000 Now they're talking about can't have a 3,000 square foot house without government regulators, new bureaucrats, taxes on fuel at every level, taxes on consumption, controlling us.

01:34:37.000 Uh, and again, it sounds reasonable.

01:34:39.000 Oh, we're consuming too much, but this is about control.

01:34:41.000 These are very wicked people that want to get control, and as evil as the globalist are with these international bodies that pose as liberal organizations, they're not.

01:34:50.000 Just as Bush poses as a conservative.

01:34:52.000 They want global taxation to fully be able to bring in An even greater mechanism of control.

01:34:59.000 So can you just explain the scientific facts in a nutshell of, surprise, surprise, that huge burning ball of different gases that we see up in the sky every day, that that's what's driving the prime mover in climate, as any climatologist will tell you, and that, I mean, you know, to claim the carbon dioxide that's been ten times higher in our past, and we've literally had a much higher life load, much healthier, I mean, it's so simple, and I'm not even a scientist.

01:35:29.000 How could it not be clear?

01:35:30.000 How could they fool the public?

01:35:31.000 The answer is, one-fifth of the public can't find the U.S.

01:35:34.000 on a map.

01:35:36.000 They've done the test where you can put out on air the scientific name of water, and people will say, ban it.

01:35:44.000 You can give out the scientific name of salt, they'll say bannet.

01:35:47.000 And same with carbon dioxide.

01:35:49.000 The word dioxide, they think it's carbon monoxide.

01:35:52.000 Break it down for us, Doctor.

01:35:54.000 Well, first of all, to keep it a simple thing, you've heard from Al Gore that CO2 causes the Earth to warm.

01:36:01.000 He walks in front of this huge 40-foot screen showing you how there's this correlation between carbon dioxide, when carbon dioxide goes up, temperature goes up.

01:36:10.000 When carbon dioxide goes down, temperature goes down.

01:36:12.000 Well, there's a good correlation there alright, but the correlations mean nothing.

01:36:16.000 100% of us are going to die if we breathe air.

01:36:21.000 Not because we breathe air, but because there is a relationship there that has nothing to do with cause and effect.

01:36:28.000 And this is the same thing with carbon dioxide and temperature, the Earth's temperature.

01:36:32.000 In fact, if you were to actually superimpose the graph that he has separated, what you would find is that the temperature almost always precedes carbon dioxide, either going up or going down.

01:36:42.000 And if anything, it's the temperature that causes the carbon dioxide levels to change.

01:36:47.000 Why?

01:36:47.000 Because there's 40,000 times more carbon dioxide in our oceans than in the air.

01:36:53.000 And carbon dioxide will go out of solution at warmer temperatures.

01:36:57.000 When the temperatures of the ocean get warmer, the carbon dioxide evaporates off into the atmosphere and the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide goes up.

01:37:05.000 And conversely, when the oceans cool down, it absorbs more carbon dioxide and the atmospheric levels go down.

01:37:11.000 So, it's very easy to explain.

01:37:13.000 Just like you were saying a moment ago, there's good, hard, physical science behind it as to why temperature is causing carbon dioxide to change, not the reverse.

01:37:22.000 Now, when you get to the actual information as to why the Earth is warming, a huge amount of research has been done over the last 10 years, and it's just coming to forefront right now, that shows that cosmic radiation from exploding supernovae thousands of light years away, when it finally reaches the Earth, That acts as what's called hydroscopic nuclei, that water droplets form around, in other words, clouds, specifically at the lower levels.

01:37:49.000 Now, if you've ever flown in an airplane and you've flown over low clouds, it's almost impossible to look out at them because of their brilliance.

01:37:57.000 So much sun is reflecting off the top of those clouds, it almost hurts your eyes to look at them.

01:38:02.000 Well, this is called albedo.

01:38:04.000 And albedo is the reflectance of the, direct reflectance of the solar radiation back out into space, Never reaches the Earth's surface.

01:38:11.000 Therefore, lo and behold, and you've seen it every day, that it rains.

01:38:16.000 It's colder under these clouds than it is when it's sunny outside.

01:38:20.000 Now, every once in a while, on an 11 or 22 year cycle specifically, the Sun actually becomes more active.

01:38:27.000 And when it does, it spews out solar winds.

01:38:31.000 If you've ever seen the magnetic storms in the Aurora Borealis and so forth, that's what happens when you have a very active Sun.

01:38:39.000 This See, solar winds have a tendency to push back this cosmic radiation right out of the sun's heliosphere, right out of our solar system.

01:38:47.000 And as a consequence, when that happens, you have a situation where there is less clouds being formed because there's less cosmic radiation reaching the Earth's surface.

01:38:57.000 Only 2-3% difference, but that's all it takes.

01:39:00.000 You can account for all the global warming that we've had by 2-3% Reduction in our lower cloud levels over the last 50 to 100 years, and it's been demonstrated that this is almost a 95% correlation.

01:39:14.000 But also, and in your film and other films document all the top scientists, they claim that 2,000 plus people signed on to that UN letter a few years ago, and it turned out that hundreds of scientists are saying, I wasn't even contacted, or I was contacted to give information, but I don't agree with this.

01:39:30.000 But also, he claims that heating comes with carbon dioxide, But in the graphs, it's 200 to 600 years after.

01:39:38.000 Carbon dioxide always follows heating, because heating causes photoplankton and plant blooms, which then increase carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

01:39:47.000 It's an absolute ice core, and every other sampling, NASA sampling, that carbon dioxide follows warming, because a plant life-forms Exhaling in their respiration more carbon dioxide.

01:40:02.000 I mean, it's a 2 plus 2 equals 4, but I can sit here and say to the public, how dare you, Dr. Michael Coffin, wanting to poison our children with hydrogen oxide?

01:40:14.000 How dare you with deadly hydrogen oxide?

01:40:19.000 Well, hydrogen oxide, tell them what hydrogen oxide is.

01:40:23.000 Well, you can't live without hydrogen oxide.

01:40:25.000 It's water.

01:40:27.000 Uh, you can't live more than three or four days without it.

01:40:29.000 And, you know, water will kill you if you drowned in it.

01:40:32.000 It will kill you if you drink it.

01:40:33.000 But, you know, they've gone out, different crews, and gone out to environmental, you know, fairs and walked up and said, we've got to ban this, sign our petition.

01:40:39.000 Hydrogen and Oxide.

01:40:41.000 And 90 plus percent, oh my gosh, oh, to ban it immediately.

01:40:45.000 It's the same thing with Carbon Dioxide, folks.

01:40:51.000 Oxygen.

01:40:52.000 And two hydrogen.

01:40:53.000 Yes, oxygen, carbon dioxide, and water, H2O, are the three major building blocks.

01:41:00.000 Then you add to that the energy of the sun, and those are the four total building blocks.

01:41:07.000 Are those not the most important building blocks?

01:41:10.000 Absolutely.

01:41:10.000 I mean, there are many others too, but those are the big three.

01:41:13.000 There's no question about it.

01:41:14.000 You can't live without one of those.

01:41:17.000 If one of those is missing, we would not have life on planet Earth.

01:41:21.000 But how dare the plants spew this deadly waste?

01:41:25.000 I mean, they're assaulting our children with deadly carbon dioxide!

01:41:31.000 Well, you know, that's the other fallacy of this whole thing, is the fact that there's less than 1% of all the greenhouse gases that is made up of man-caused or man-emitted carbon dioxide.

01:41:43.000 The rest of it is all natural.

01:41:45.000 Even carbon dioxide.

01:41:47.000 Carbon dioxide 97% of it is naturally created by trees, plants, and other sundry things.

01:41:54.000 But I mean, the botanists and experts have found that plants can grow three times faster, live longer, be healthier, they create higher oxygen.

01:42:01.000 They've done studies and found that they believe that during the Hyborian Maxim 7,000 years ago, that humans were healthier because of higher oxygen.

01:42:09.000 They've dug up the bones.

01:42:11.000 A lot of scientists are saying that we're actually in a oxygen-starved, carbon dioxide-starved mode, and that carbon dioxide is mother's milk to life.

01:42:20.000 Absolutely.

01:42:21.000 It really is.

01:42:22.000 It's amazing.

01:42:23.000 There's been literally thousands of these studies being done to show that food production, for instance, can be doubled.

01:42:30.000 Increased by 50% with a doubling of carbon dioxide, doubled with a tripling of carbon dioxide.

01:42:34.000 And the oceans, the plankton do better, then the krill, then the shrimp, then the minnows, then the larger fish up to the bluefin tuna and the great whites.

01:42:43.000 This would be good for the ocean, but they don't want it! 0.63

01:42:46.000 They do not, well, it's not that they don't want it. 0.98

01:42:48.000 They don't want us to know about it, because if we know about it, we'll know how much of a fool they are and we won't go along with their agenda. 0.97

01:42:54.000 They're using this whole thing as an agenda item in order to enslave us. 0.97

01:42:59.000 As you said in your DVD, there is no question of this.

01:43:02.000 There is no viable science, and I'll say this in a hard and fast way, there is no direct science that shows that man is causing global warming.

01:43:11.000 I have looked at literally thousands of research results, and there is none.

01:43:15.000 There's a lot of circumstantial evidence, but so what?

01:43:19.000 The hard evidence that we do have suggests that what we're seeing today is part of a natural cycle, and we're recovering from what is called the Little Ice Age, back in the 1700s and 1800s.

01:43:30.000 It's a natural warming, and thank God, because back in the Little Ice Age, that's when you had the Black Plagues of Europe and mass starvation because crop failures and all the rest. 0.99

01:43:40.000 Huge snowstorms is when the Thames River and London froze over every year.

01:43:45.000 It was a horrible time.

01:43:47.000 We're recovering from that.

01:43:48.000 We do not want to go back to that.

01:43:49.000 Why do you want to hurt our children?

01:43:51.000 Why do you want to hurt our children, Dr. Kaufman, wanting them to ingest the deadly poison sodium chloride?

01:43:57.000 Well, that is unfortunately the only tactic they can use to try to discredit us.

01:44:02.000 But sodium chloride is deadly!

01:44:04.000 It's in poor people.

01:44:04.000 Yes, ban sodium chloride.

01:44:06.000 Tell folks what sodium chloride is.

01:44:08.000 Salt.

01:44:09.000 You eat it every day. 0.99

01:44:10.000 Again, the scientific terms scare the buffoonish, dumbed-down public. 0.98

01:44:15.000 I mean, 50 years ago, they would never have gotten away with this. 0.97

01:44:17.000 People knew too much.

01:44:19.000 No.

01:44:19.000 People knew too much.

01:44:21.000 It was part of our high school education, if not our elementary education, and all that material has been taken out.

01:44:26.000 Our history courses have been dumbed down to very mundane types of understanding of history, totally eliminating the concept of what private property rights mean to wealth creation and all the rest.

01:44:40.000 You and I, when we grew up, well maybe not you, maybe you were too late, You're a lot younger than I am, but when I grew up, it was part of our curricula.

01:44:47.000 We understood how important private property rights are, or how important this is, and that's not being taught anymore.

01:44:53.000 Oh no, we were just taught that world government was good and handing in guns is good. 0.67

01:44:56.000 I want to take some calls, but if folks want global warming or global government, your DVD film, it's available.

01:45:02.000 At Infowars.com, you can also get it discounted with Endgame together as a combo pack on Infowars.com.

01:45:08.000 It also makes a great gift.

01:45:09.000 Let's say you know all about this.

01:45:10.000 You're a scientist, you're a biologist, you're a researcher, you're a lay scientist, a tinkerer, you know these basics.

01:45:16.000 Your neighbors don't, folks.

01:45:17.000 They think sodium chloride is cyanide.

01:45:21.000 They've done studies where they tell people that and they believe it.

01:45:23.000 They believe that water, if you give them the scientific term, is poison.

01:45:27.000 They believe that Carbon dioxide, literal main engine driver for all life, is plants of the basis.

01:45:34.000 They're at the bottom of the food chain.

01:45:36.000 They believe it's a devil gas. 1.00

01:45:38.000 And again, they're treating us like ignorant morons, and it's got to stop. 0.99

01:45:41.000 Please call 888-253-3139 to get in game, or Global Warming or Global Government. 0.99

01:45:49.000 Get them today, 888-253-3139.

01:45:52.000 Let's jam in some calls here.

01:45:54.000 Don in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:45:59.000 I'd like to return to the subject that you brought up, sir, of theosophy, and I'd like to comment on what Alex often says.

01:46:07.000 It's not actually what we believe that's important, it's important what they believe, because they're actually making the moves off of their beliefs, so whether it's true or not, the fact that they believe that is very Exactly!

01:46:20.000 Every time I talk about the globalist being a cultic, atheists send me emails going, I don't believe in that, you kook! 1.00

01:46:25.000 Okay, it doesn't matter!

01:46:26.000 Hitler wasn't a cultist, it doesn't mean you believe in that.

01:46:29.000 The point is, that's what's driving him.

01:46:31.000 You know, the hillside strangler, Mr. Satan, believed he was doing it for the devil.

01:46:35.000 Even if you don't believe in the devil, he believes in you, and you know, he's Richard Ramirez, or whatever.

01:46:41.000 Dr. Kaufman?

01:46:42.000 Absolutely, I would agree with you.

01:46:43.000 It's not what we believe, it's what they believe when they're in the seat of power.

01:46:47.000 That they're going to impose on you and I. I mean, that's what a criminologist does, understand our enemies.

01:46:52.000 We understand what makes them tick.

01:46:55.000 That's exactly what I was going to say.

01:46:56.000 You posed the question earlier, Alex, of how do we stop these guys?

01:47:01.000 And I would contend that we should learn as much about what they believe as possible.

01:47:07.000 However, that is a slippery slope.

01:47:09.000 And doctor, I'd like for you to comment on this.

01:47:11.000 Once you start learning about what They know there's so much disinformation within what they're learning.

01:47:18.000 It seems to me that the root of theosophy and all of this occult stuff is a concept called star-seeding, and I'd like you to comment on this, that they actually believe that they are descendants of a cross between alien and the human species, and that is what separates them from the normal man.

01:47:35.000 Yes, in fact, not all of them believe that necessarily, but I have read that.

01:47:39.000 But we're hearing this a lot now.

01:47:40.000 It's really popular.

01:47:42.000 Yes.

01:47:43.000 In fact, you have to, you know, the whole thing is set up by the concept of evolution.

01:47:47.000 I'm not getting into an evolutionary discussion right now.

01:47:50.000 But it's set up by evolution, and therefore, they are part of the new gene pool that was brought in from other planets and so forth.

01:47:58.000 Well, that's even what the BBC is saying now.

01:48:00.000 We're going to split into two groups.

01:48:01.000 I appreciate your call.

01:48:03.000 Robert in California, you're on the air.

01:48:05.000 Go ahead.

01:48:08.000 Good morning, gentlemen.

01:48:10.000 Yeah, a couple of things.

01:48:12.000 One is that I was doing some research on the terminology that you keep using, Luciferian.

01:48:18.000 They believe in an evolutionary process from Homo sapien to Homo divinus.

01:48:24.000 Yeah, and that predates Darwin.

01:48:26.000 See, Darwin didn't think any of this up.

01:48:27.000 And we're not getting into... I agree.

01:48:29.000 We're not having a debate about evolution, folks.

01:48:32.000 We're telling what they believe.

01:48:33.000 That's all we're doing.

01:48:34.000 See, I don't even attack Darwin in this film.

01:48:36.000 I just state what he believed.

01:48:38.000 I show the documents, the books he wrote.

01:48:40.000 Dr. Kaufman?

01:48:42.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:48:43.000 It is... Again, you have to understand what they believe.

01:48:47.000 You know, I wrote the book, Saviors of the Earth, a number of years ago.

01:48:49.000 It's still available on my website.

01:48:51.000 I wrote that book trying to help people understand what is motivating the environmental movement and where it's coming from and what they believe in, because unless you understand what they believe in, you will not know where they're going.

01:49:01.000 It's one of the reasons I was able to stop right an hour before the Senate was to vote on it, the Convention on Biological Diversity, because I knew exactly what they were trying to do.

01:49:11.000 I explained it to the Senate.

01:49:12.000 They didn't believe me, and I finally got the evidence, the smoking gun, The day before that they were supposed to vote on it and send it down to the U.S.

01:49:20.000 Senate, and it was introduced on the Senate floor an hour before the scheduled vote for ratification of this treaty, and it just literally blew it right out of the water.

01:49:27.000 You have to know where they're going!

01:49:29.000 Robert, stay there.

01:49:30.000 I'm going to let you finish up.

01:49:30.000 Then Richard and Will, that'll be it for Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:49:33.000 Then we've got the two-time Super Bowl champion, five-time pro bowler, speaking out for 9-11 Truth, scheduled.

01:49:39.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:48.000 Dr. Michael Coffin's our guest today.

01:53:17.000 Is Robert in California still there?

01:53:18.000 Some answer.

01:53:21.000 Yeah, they think they're going to be homo-divine.

01:53:24.000 That's right.

01:53:24.000 They think they're going to be the new God-man.

01:53:27.000 That's the whole push since the Greek philosophers.

01:53:29.000 Any other comments?

01:53:31.000 Yeah, and also a couple of news points.

01:53:33.000 One, I don't know if you already covered this or not.

01:53:36.000 Also, Pat Robertson has just endorsed Willie Giuliani.

01:53:44.000 Yeah, pro-abortion. 0.87

01:53:46.000 Oh, by the way, I actually heard the radio ad.

01:53:49.000 Pastor Hagee says Jesus is not the Savior.

01:53:53.000 And again, this is a new show.

01:53:55.000 A major supposed evangelical preacher says Jesus is not the Messiah.

01:54:01.000 Right, and yeah, I'm just reading that right now.

01:54:04.000 It happened at 11 o'clock a.m.

01:54:06.000 today.

01:54:07.000 Also, a little point on what you've been saying, Alex, about them ratcheting up the war machine.

01:54:13.000 I've been driving around L.A.

01:54:14.000 listening to all the talk show radios on the a.m.

01:54:18.000 dials around here, and they just keep talking about nuclear strike, nuclear strike, nuclear strike.

01:54:22.000 So I think we should hold on to our socks, as they say.

01:54:27.000 I agree.

01:54:28.000 I mean, to hear Hagee, and this is not a religious show, but this is the guy who's all pro-war, knew Kyran all this, and Dr. Kaufman, the network even has the club.

01:54:36.000 I'll play it tomorrow.

01:54:39.000 I mean, can you believe he actually is saying that now?

01:54:41.000 No, I'm stunned.

01:54:43.000 I'm stunned that Pat Robertson would support Giuliani, too.

01:54:46.000 I mean, just, that is so far from what they had been preaching for all their lives.

01:54:51.000 It's just beyond what I can conceive of.

01:54:55.000 We're seeing it all happen right now.

01:54:58.000 We're seeing it all.

01:54:59.000 Imagine 11,000 members of that guy's church down in San Antonio, and they all just sit there loving it.

01:55:04.000 I mean, they'll buy anything.

01:55:05.000 See, once you buy into torture and world government and corruption and police state, you buy into it all.

01:55:11.000 Richard, Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:55:14.000 Hi, guys.

01:55:14.000 Another quick news item, and then on to something a little bit more pertinent.

01:55:19.000 I've read on Rents today that we have grounded all of our F-15s on a worldwide basis, including in Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:55:27.000 And secondly, I wanted to reinforce the request that you urgently get Jim Phelps from GOE Watch on to your show.

01:55:36.000 He takes this information to an even deeper hole.

01:55:40.000 He's a whistleblower that was involved with Oak Ridge.

01:55:44.000 For his second generation, his father was in it as well and died from contamination there.

01:55:49.000 And there's just a monstrous amount of information out there that I think you would really enjoy getting into.

01:55:54.000 Absolutely.

01:55:56.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

01:55:57.000 Dr. Cobham, we're out of time.

01:55:59.000 Fire out your excellent website.

01:56:01.000 It's discerningtoday.org.

01:56:03.000 Discerningtoday.org.

01:56:07.000 And again, mention that book that's still in print.

01:56:11.000 Saviors of the Earth?

01:56:12.000 And what I do is I basically define exactly where the environmental movement came from, and more importantly, what they really believe in, in the leadership of the environmental movement.

01:56:21.000 Where they're taking us into this occult belief that nature is God and we must worship nature.

01:56:28.000 All I know is, is that everything's being turned upside down right now.

01:56:32.000 It is.

01:56:33.000 And the economy is gyrating downwards into the abyss and the neocons are on radio just jabbering about World War III and everything else.

01:56:43.000 We are definitely in the middle of massive change and it's only going to accelerate.

01:56:48.000 Dr. Michael Coffman, thank you so much for spending time with us today.

01:56:52.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

01:56:54.000 Alright ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get an amazing individual on the line with us.

01:57:01.000 After this break, Mark Stepnoski, and many of you know who he is if you're football fans, I remember watching him on television myself back when I still had time to watch television and football games back in the mid-1990s, growing up in Dallas, quite a Cowboys fan, and he has eloquently spoken out for 9-11 Truth, and he's scheduled to join us coming up in the next hour with some other big 9-11 breaking news as well.

01:57:26.000 Stay with us.

01:57:30.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.

01:57:34.000 3877-300-7645. Big Brother. Mainstream media.

01:57:49.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:50.000 You want answers?

01:57:52.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:54.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:57:58.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:03.000 Last week, George Carlin, legendary, top comedian in the country, Went public and said he doesn't believe the official story and questions it.

01:58:12.000 Martin Sheen, of course, last week also went public.

01:58:15.000 You heard it here first.

01:58:17.000 Charlie Sheen, his son, last year was the first big star to go public.

01:58:21.000 Now we've had a bunch of other top Hollywood stars and others go public.

01:58:25.000 And the point is, is this takes a lot of courage for him to do, and more and more people are starting to stand up and speak out.

01:58:32.000 We had a story a couple days ago, former NFL star, latest to question, 9-11 official story, ex-Dallas Cowboys lineman Stipnoski tells Indiana newspaper of doubts.

01:58:43.000 And I believe Paul got that little part of the headline wrong right there.

01:58:46.000 But let me give you his bio, then we're going to go to him.

01:58:48.000 Mark Matthew Stipnoski is a former American football offensive lineman in the NFL.

01:58:54.000 He attended Cathedral Preparatory School in Erie, Pennsylvania and went on to star at the University of Pittsburgh.

01:59:00.000 Stepnoski's pro career in the NFL was spent with the Dallas Cowboys from 89 to 94 and then back from 99 to 2000 and the Houston Oilers from 95 to 98.

01:59:09.000 Stepnoski won two Super Bowls while with the Cowboys, remember watching those, and was a five-time pro bowler attending the game from 92 through 96.

01:59:18.000 Also notable among his achievements Are the contributions he made to help Emmett Smith become the all-time rushing champion of the NFL?

01:59:26.000 Absolutely!

01:59:28.000 And again, in November 2007, Sapnowski expressed support for the 9-11 Truth Movement, and he is also working with Normal, which I don't smoke marijuana, it makes me paranoid, but I think it should be legalized.

01:59:39.000 George Washington smoked it, and it has thousands, it's a miracle drug, much bigger than aspirin, And Mattel's throwing you in jail for that, but you can take Ritalin and Prozac all day, or Hillbilly Heroin, or the Oxycontin.

01:59:52.000 But, sir, I am so honored to have you on with us.

01:59:55.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:59:56.000 It's great to be here with you today.

01:59:58.000 I want to, just out of the gates, when we come back from break, get into 9-11 truth, and talk to you during the break.

02:00:03.000 You told me when you woke up to it, the day it happened.

02:00:05.000 Same here.

02:00:06.000 And then I want to talk about normal, because the whole war on drugs is obviously very important.

02:00:10.000 But talk about that day, 9-11.

02:00:14.000 Yeah, that was a Tuesday, which that was my last year playing football in the NFL, and that was our day off.

02:00:22.000 So I happened to catch a decent amount of it on TV.

02:00:25.000 And I just remember at the time thinking to myself, you know, is this really a terrorist attack on us by a foreign nation?

02:00:32.000 Or is this a false flag operation being conducted by our government?

02:00:37.000 And the reason I say that is because for years leading up to that, I had read several books about the Kennedy assassination, about Watergate, and also an excellent book, Oklahoma City and the Politics of Terror.

02:00:51.000 Yes.

02:00:51.000 Which really kind of laid out a lot of the unofficial story about that event.

02:00:58.000 And I noticed there were a lot of parallels between that event and 9-11, as far as bombs being found in the building, scientists coming out and saying that an ammonium nitrate bomb could never cause that much damage, I read another book about McVeigh's trial called Others Unknown, which was actually written by the gentleman who represented him.

02:01:19.000 And he was convinced that there were other people involved in that event that never were brought to justice.

02:01:27.000 So there were just a lot of similarities between the two.

02:01:31.000 Yeah, once that event occurred, I was skeptical, and then obviously, you know, once you start following it from the get-go, you're exposed constantly to information to reinforce your belief.

02:01:44.000 Exactly.

02:01:45.000 I've tried to disprove my own research.

02:01:47.000 But take Oklahoma City, or the First World Trade Center, where the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver, gave them the detonator.

02:01:53.000 Now lawyers have gone in, gotten the admissions from Terry Nichols that McVeigh was a government agent.

02:01:59.000 We already knew that.

02:02:00.000 Now the Southern Poverty Law Center, it's come out in federal documents, was basically running Elohim City, the white supremacist compound.

02:02:07.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:02:09.000 Yeah, there's so much.

02:02:10.000 Again, the two events, there's so much information behind the scenes.

02:02:16.000 Well, you're a well-known iconoclast, known for being quite intellectual in your own right, and I'm just very impressed just talking to you in a few minutes here.

02:02:23.000 I'm very excited about the 55 minutes we've got left with you, sir.

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02:05:47.000 As usual, we're having great discussions during the breaks. - Yes.

02:06:10.000 Mark Stepnowski.

02:06:13.000 He is our guest.

02:06:14.000 He is a five-time pro bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, and he's the guy that opened up those big holes and recredited most of those big holes driving through so that Emmitt Smith could get that all-time record.

02:06:28.000 And I asked him what he wanted to talk about, and he said, hey, 9-11 is the big issue.

02:06:31.000 We'll talk some about the war on drugs.

02:06:33.000 And absolutely, I agree with him.

02:06:34.000 And I think the angle we were just taking in the last segment of how you woke up, and now we're learning a little bit more than we learned in the Erie newspaper from Monday, that you woke up because you'd studied history.

02:06:50.000 And again, history, knowing the past, we then know the future.

02:06:54.000 So let's walk through and maybe recap.

02:06:58.000 You've got the floor, sir.

02:07:00.000 Expand on how you were already aware of false flag, what you thought that day, and why you've taken this major plunge going public for 9-11 Truth.

02:07:08.000 Well, I just think that, you know, growing up reading books about the Kennedy assassination, books like High Treason, you know, there's so many books out there and videos of, The Men Who Killed Kennedy, the five-part series that's played on cable television, was really well done.

02:07:26.000 But that was just a great introduction over the years of, you know, some of the clandestine activities that occur with the military and with the intelligence services, things that you're never going to see in mainstream media.

02:07:42.000 And then again, you know, just going along that line throughout that time period, studying the Vietnam War, Watergate, all these things that Signify a cover-up by the government.

02:07:56.000 As time goes on, you become more and more aware, as a citizen, that secrecy is the rule of the day with our government.

02:08:05.000 And any time that anything revelatory comes to light regarding the nefarious activities of our government, it's immediately discredited and hushed up.

02:08:17.000 So, you know, fortunately we live in an era where alternative media provides true sources of information that can't be sanitized by corporations.

02:08:29.000 If I can just add, speaking of the Kennedy assassination, now over 90% of Americans in major polls believe the government killed him.

02:08:35.000 Well, they better.

02:08:36.000 I mean, E. Howard Hunt now Now, deathbed confession, only Rolling Stone reports on it.

02:08:41.000 I mean, we now have the CIA section chief, the guy who was photographed at the scene by the Dallas Morning News, Dallas Times Herald, now admitting that he did indeed run the op to kill him, and it's not on the national news!

02:08:54.000 Absolutely, and we see things like that all the time.

02:08:59.000 Recently, this past summer, documents were released proving that the CIA often worked hand-in-hand with organized crime figures to implement their plans.

02:09:11.000 All these things that at the time would have been considered quote-unquote conspiracy theory are now being substantiated as being true.

02:09:19.000 So again, fortunately we live in a time where information is a little bit more accessible, so it's becoming harder and harder for a corrupt government to cover up their illegal activities.

02:09:30.000 You know, in the 60s it took years and years before the Zapruder film was even released.

02:09:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:36.000 People can see things right away now.

02:09:39.000 They admit Gulf of Tonkin was staged just as we always knew now they declassified totally staged Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:46.000 I thought the movie the fog of war with Robert McNamara did a great job of just letting people know What that behind the scenes planning consists of you know, and there's so many parallels, you know You look at that, the false intelligence leading to war, same thing that's going on now.

02:10:04.000 History really does repeat itself.

02:10:06.000 But like you said earlier, if people don't read and they're not familiar with history, it's not as apparent to them that these things happen over and over again throughout time.

02:10:16.000 Well, history's like having the other team's playbook, isn't it?

02:10:19.000 Yes, it is.

02:10:21.000 When you see modern events unfold around you, it's a lot easier to interpret them if you have read their mail, so to speak, ahead of time.

02:10:33.000 Now, what made you decide to take the plunge for 9-11 Truth?

02:10:38.000 Well, it just became a question of not really being able to be quiet about it anymore.

02:10:43.000 I've talked to my friends about it all the time for the last six years.

02:10:48.000 You know, I will gladly speak with anybody who wants to talk about it.

02:10:51.000 Initially, you know, people were very reluctant to even entertain the possibility that it was an inside job.

02:10:58.000 But again, as the years have gone on, as time has gone on, you know, now we're six, seven years out, enough information is out there to where people are willing to consider it more seriously.

02:11:10.000 You know, you're probably familiar with Peter Phillips from Project Censored.

02:11:15.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:11:16.000 I love that.

02:11:17.000 His books, read them every year.

02:11:19.000 He calls it a threshold concept.

02:11:22.000 You know, people really need to get to the point where they can assimilate enough information to make that leap.

02:11:28.000 To go, to think, you know, beyond the parameters that they already possess.

02:11:33.000 It's like, once we finally believe that we can fly, within a few years of thousands of tinkerers trying it, the Wright Brothers at Kitty Hawk were able to do it, or Copernicus had enough knowledge to finally convince people the world was round and not flat, or Galileo, that the earth orbited the sun, not the sun the earth.

02:11:51.000 Yeah, people, when you try to hit them with this all at once, if they're totally uninformed and this information is entirely foreign to them, they're really not willing to entertain it, because it's just too much of a paradigm shift for them.

02:12:07.000 But for people who gradually are exposed to more and more information, it's less and less of a shock to them.

02:12:13.000 I think we've reached that point now, because honestly, When you look at the information that's out there and the credibility of the sources, anybody now who still believes the official story of 9-11 is either incredibly naive or exhibiting complete and total denial.

02:12:34.000 Well, we know denial is certainly a powerful factor, but did you decide to really speak out and go public?

02:12:42.000 I mean, I'm just asking because you think things are getting more serious or that they may be planning something else.

02:12:48.000 I mean, I'm just speculating because more people that I've talked to that are going public now say that's their reason.

02:12:53.000 I mean, does that play any factor here?

02:12:56.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:12:57.000 You know, we have The desire to start a third war since 9-11 in Iran. 0.71

02:13:05.000 You know, there are stories of missing nuclear warheads floating around.

02:13:08.000 You know, you read the Kennebunkport warning online.

02:13:12.000 There are many people worried about Cheney staging another false flag attack.

02:13:17.000 He's already come out and said the next time it happens, it'll be in the form of a nuclear, a mini-nuke somewhere in a U.S.

02:13:23.000 city.

02:13:24.000 And anybody who is familiar with all these military exercises that are constantly going on, they realize that not a lot of people are needed to pull off a false flag attack like that.

02:13:37.000 Well, what about Colonel Butler?

02:13:38.000 Defense Language School tells the AP in San Jose Mercury News that they train hijackers in secret spy programs at the base.

02:13:45.000 Mr. Springman, the head of the U.S.

02:13:47.000 Embassy, ordered to let hijackers back into the country and was told, don't worry, the terror designation is their cover, they're government agents.

02:13:54.000 I mean, that right there, and those are only a few of thousands of smoking guns.

02:13:58.000 Drills of the exact same buildings attacked at the exact same time by aircraft, and then Bush says he never heard of a plan to attack buildings with planes?

02:14:06.000 Yeah, it's really absurd.

02:14:07.000 I mean, it's...

02:14:08.000 When you think back to the time prior to 9-11, all the precautions that were taken at the GA Summit in Italy, you know, these are all scenarios that have been discussed by policy makers.

02:14:19.000 They know what the threats are.

02:14:21.000 They know the technology that's out there and what's possible.

02:14:25.000 Now the general public doesn't know.

02:14:27.000 So then obviously when they see this scenario envelop, They don't think of it in terms of a drill or an exercise gone live.

02:14:35.000 They think of it in terms of, you know, a terrorist attack from an outside entity.

02:14:39.000 But again, when you listen to the transcripts of the air traffic controllers on the day of 9-11, the first words out of their mouth was, is this live or is this an exercise?

02:14:49.000 And then they said, I've never seen so much real world going on during an exercise.

02:14:57.000 Yeah, and I think you read a book like Crossing the Rubicon by Mike Rupert or 9-11 Synthetic Terror Made in the USA by Webster Tarpley.

02:15:09.000 These guys do a great job of highlighting how many military exercises were taking place on that day and how they served to make the event possible and also to confuse people at the time.

02:15:24.000 Who are in charge of trying to deter things like that from happening.

02:15:29.000 But again, I sometimes think that people don't realize how much influence the military has on everyday life in the US.

02:15:39.000 Well, then there was also Tripod 2 going on, where they did a simulation of terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center complex with the Port Authority.

02:15:49.000 They'd moved the Emergency Management Center the week before out to the end of the pier, out of the big spook complex, Building 7.

02:15:56.000 Then the head of FEMA in New York says, yeah, we deployed the night of September 10th.

02:16:00.000 Then he backed off and said I was wrong.

02:16:02.000 Then Giuliani said I was told to get out of the building because Tower 1 and 2 were going to fall, and we were running an exercise.

02:16:08.000 Then he said he didn't say it, but then we have the video and audio of it.

02:16:12.000 So it's not, I mean, it's incredible!

02:16:14.000 Yeah, there are just too many lies for people to go back and, you know, cover them up.

02:16:19.000 It's such a web of lies that, you know, people like Giuliani have already contradicted themselves repeatedly.

02:16:27.000 But again, you know, when you think about the similarities to the Oklahoma City bombing, you know, that day the alcohol, tobacco, and firearm agents who were employed in that building didn't show up for work.

02:16:38.000 And then showed up a minute after in full bomb gear and the police said, why are you here?

02:16:43.000 And they said, we got a tip.

02:16:44.000 Exactly.

02:16:45.000 The same way that John Ashcroft got a tip not to fly commercially before 11.

02:16:51.000 The same way Willie Brown got a tip not to fly beforehand.

02:16:55.000 Yeah, I mean, there are too many instances of foreknowledge to be discounted.

02:17:01.000 Mark Stepnoski, two-time Super Bowl champion, five-time Pro Bowler, Dallas Cowboys, and of course Houston Oilers.

02:17:07.000 When we come back, I want to talk to you about their mindset, how they love to brag.

02:17:12.000 The PNAC documents, Cheney saying we need a terror attack, a big event.

02:17:16.000 Brzezinski saying it.

02:17:18.000 Why do you think they've been so arrogant?

02:17:21.000 Are they operating on the old 50s, 60s paradigm as Cold War dinosaurs?

02:17:26.000 And where do you think this is all going?

02:17:28.000 Because the jig is up with 84% in major polls, not believing the official story, as high as 68% believing inside job.

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02:21:55.000 You know, Popular Mechanics and Yellow Journalism, Fathers Hearst Publishing.

02:22:00.000 They go out and build straw men to attack.

02:22:03.000 They don't fight us.

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02:22:09.000 No, no, no.

02:22:09.000 We're talking about real information.

02:22:13.000 Mark Stepnowski.

02:22:14.000 Two-time Super Bowl champion is our guest.

02:22:18.000 The question before the break, Mark, you know, the pre-bragging about how terror attacks are coming, we're going to change the way you live, we need these terror attacks.

02:22:27.000 I mean, the motives right there, the 44,000 U.S.

02:22:30.000 troops massed around Afghanistan, the carriers ready to attack in the week before.

02:22:35.000 I mean, how obvious is that?

02:22:37.000 Yeah, that's the other thing that, you know, people think that 9-11 just came out of clear blue sky and all of a sudden we had this massive mobilization.

02:22:45.000 But you can't just stage an invasion on that short of notice.

02:22:49.000 I mean, anybody who goes back and looks can see all the plans that were laid in place prior to the invasion and that obviously 9-11 gave them the pretext to do it.

02:23:02.000 Now we go to the mindset.

02:23:04.000 Why are they so arrogant to stage a giant invasion force with 44,000 U.S.

02:23:09.000 troops, 18,000 British troops?

02:23:11.000 Bush had the launch orders to attack Afghanistan, CBS News, Newsweek reported two days before.

02:23:16.000 I mean, why are they so obvious?

02:23:22.000 I just think that it's their desperate reaction to the situation regarding peak oil.

02:23:31.000 I very much believe that peak oil is a reality.

02:23:34.000 That's a theory that was stressed heavily by Mike Rupert on his From the Wilderness website.

02:23:42.000 I totally agree with his thinking on that.

02:23:45.000 I mean, all of the evidence points to rapid depletion of fossil fuels coinciding with greatly increased demand.

02:23:54.000 So when I see the importance placed on the strength of the dollar, how the only thing that gives our dollar any kind of value is the fact that oil is traded in U.S.

02:24:05.000 dollars, to me it all ties in together.

02:24:08.000 It's a need to continue fossil fuel supply to the U.S.

02:24:12.000 Jimmy Carter You know, 30 years ago I said that Mideast oil was a national security issue for the United States.

02:24:20.000 And that, if anything, that whole attitude has grown.

02:24:25.000 That's first and foremost, you know, our military It's now used as basically an instrument to secure and protect oil supplies because that is the lifeblood of our economy.

02:24:37.000 Well, either way, we know it is a national security issue, whether peak oil with them creating artificial scarcity, and it is harder to extract now, or whether it's actually happening.

02:24:47.000 Regardless, they are creating an energy crisis.

02:24:50.000 Bottom line, it's here, it's now.

02:24:53.000 Yeah, and again, you know, it's 60% of the recoverable oil in the world is in the Middle East.

02:25:01.000 It's in a piece of land roughly the size of Texas.

02:25:04.000 And I believe that's why Dick Cheney, even though he was subpoenaed several times, he would not release the records from his Energy Task Force in 2001, because that's exactly what was discussed in that meeting.

02:25:16.000 But O'Neill was there, you're right, Treasury Secretary was there, and four days into their, in the White House, they had maps up about what they were going to carve up.

02:25:24.000 Absolutely.

02:25:25.000 And there's a Canadian author, her name is Linda McQuaig, and she wrote a book called It's the Crude Dude.

02:25:30.000 And she was one of, I believe, the first people in Canada to include that information.

02:25:34.000 It was finally pried out of the White House after about the fourth or fifth subpoena.

02:25:40.000 So again, that was another perfect example of secrecy on the part of the White House.

02:25:45.000 goes hand-in-hand with everything that they have done leading up to this point.

02:25:49.000 People, I think, have a tendency to forget that this is the same group of guys that was involved in the first Bush administration that were responsible for the Ron Contra.

02:25:59.000 They had a hand in the savings and loan debacle.

02:26:02.000 These guys have a long history of illegal activity and then covering it up.

02:26:08.000 Now that they're getting caught and they're cornered, what do you think they're going to do?

02:26:15.000 It's hard to say.

02:26:16.000 It's kind of frightening to think about it.

02:26:20.000 I don't really know sometimes if it even makes a difference at this point, because now, should a Democrat win the White House in the next election, they have already pretty much acquiesced and said that they will continue the war.

02:26:35.000 Should Hillary Clinton win, she has already agreed to, I think, stay in Iraq at least until 2013.

02:26:44.000 From what I understand, most Democrats have signed on for an invasion of Iran.

02:26:51.000 So, I think a lot of people in the U.S.

02:26:54.000 have a somewhat false hope about an administration change to a different political party is going to result in new policy.

02:27:03.000 I'm somewhat doubtful about that.

02:27:05.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:27:06.000 When we get back, let's get into more of the serious things that make you question the official story on 9-11, and then talk about The fact that Congress has an 11% approval rating, so that's the good news.

02:27:17.000 Now both parties have been exposed, and I think some people aren't awake like you said, but a lot of others are waking up to the fact that the establishment owns all the horses in the race.

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02:32:05.000 And he has now added a new interest, speaking out publicly, it's really an old interest we learn now, 9-11 Truth Movements, whose adherents question the mainstream accounts.

02:32:14.000 And I read it here, he's also a fan of George Carlin, who said he questions the official story last week.

02:32:21.000 What do you think of George Carlin now saying he questions the official story?

02:32:25.000 Well, I think it's great.

02:32:26.000 I think that, you know, if you had to pick one guy who might do that, he would be the guy.

02:32:30.000 You know, he kind of has a reputation as being an anti-authority figure.

02:32:35.000 You know, a guy who kind of, you know, cuts through the chase and gets to the point.

02:32:40.000 Yeah, I was excited to hear that.

02:32:44.000 Boy, it'd be interesting if we saw the biggest country star out there go public for 9-11 Truth.

02:32:51.000 I'm not going to even say it.

02:32:52.000 There are so many people who know what's going on who haven't yet spoken out or gone public, but I just pray that that happens, because as more people go public, it makes it safer for others to do it, and I really think a mass awakening, a renaissance of awakening, could totally expose false flag terror and really inoculate the public against it to where the New World Order basically can't use that tool anymore.

02:33:19.000 I agree, and I think one of the things that is helping people come to that conclusion is the amount of information that's out there that is sourced from mainstream media.

02:33:29.000 Now, you're never going to see discussions like we are having today in mainstream media, but at the same time, a lot of people who are skeptical of the things we are talking about You know, they always tend to believe that these sources that we are reading on the internet or in books or magazines are subversive, unsubstantiated, but that's why I think people should

02:33:56.000 Should be open to reading things like the Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson, which is entirely sourced from mainstream accounts.

02:34:03.000 People can look at how this information is put together even when it is gleaned from major media.

02:34:10.000 So I think, you know, once people expose themselves to that kind of book Or, if they read something by David Ray Griffin, which debunks some of the theories being put out by mainstream media, then I think they'll be a little bit more willing to accept some of the things that we are talking about today.

02:34:28.000 Well, here's an example of debunking poplar mechanics.

02:34:31.000 We'll show some physicist and say, they just say, oh it's not true, with a guy saying expert under him, some 20 year old kid.

02:34:39.000 Or they would say, oh NORAD never intercepted any plane before 9-11 but Payne Stewart in 2000, the golfer.

02:34:47.000 And then we went and got the very same spokesman for NORAD who said that to popular mechanics in AP and Reuters, during the Payne Stewart thing, saying they had 167 of them in just the months before that.

02:34:59.000 I mean, you know, my dad's a pilot and he's been off course before and, you know, they get on the radio and threaten to send an F-16s up when he's flying around a storm in a Cessna over Central Texas.

02:35:08.000 So, I mean, it's just they build strongmen.

02:35:10.000 Can you comment on that?

02:35:12.000 Yes, I think, you know, once people become familiar with the protocol that exists, it's readily apparent that that protocol was broken on that day.

02:35:21.000 And that, you know, the events that happened that day, the way they transpired, That is not commonplace.

02:35:29.000 And it doesn't matter who's...

02:35:32.000 Who's in charge as far as giving the order to shoot down planes?

02:35:36.000 There is a protocol that's been established, and like you said, it's been followed repeatedly in the past.

02:35:44.000 So, to see such a divergence from the normal way that things are supposed to occur, as far as the response of jets and the response of NORAD, it just goes without saying that it's an anomaly.

02:35:58.000 You know, things were purposely altered that day.

02:36:02.000 And then we have all these first responders, medical workers, police, scores of them saying they heard the 22nd countdown when they blew up Building 7, and then BBC, 25 minutes before it falls on two different channels, says we've just gotten word Building 7, Salomon Brothers, has fallen from fire, total collapse, and there it is behind them, out the window, and they gave the exact official story that later came out hours later.

02:36:26.000 I mean, that's smoking gun!

02:36:28.000 Yeah, in addition to, I'm sure a lot of your listeners are familiar with Larry Silverstein's comments about the building being pulled as if it was being demolished.

02:36:38.000 I was fortunate enough a couple months ago to go see William Rodriguez speak live in Vancouver, and I was already familiar with his story, but nonetheless, it was really compelling to go see him in person and listen to it firsthand.

02:36:53.000 Yeah, like you said, the amount of eyewitnesses who were there that day, they're becoming more and more vocal.

02:37:02.000 I think that people are starting to realize that they're hearing the alternative belief now about what really happened that day.

02:37:11.000 The difference is they're not hearing it from corporate media.

02:37:14.000 They're hearing it from eyewitnesses.

02:37:16.000 Well, speaking of that, up on PrisonPlanet.com, we have the George Washington Blogspot thing here.

02:37:21.000 9-11 family member, Patty Cazazza, government new exact date and exact targets.

02:37:27.000 9-11 family member, Jersey girl, Patty Cazazza, has just revealed that the whistleblower told her that before 9-11, the government knew the exact day, the type of attack, and the targets.

02:37:37.000 And she had to meet the government whistleblower at an undisclosed location off the side of the highway.

02:37:42.000 That's how paranoid they were.

02:37:43.000 But we've now confirmed that they ordered FBI agents that knew the exact details to back off and shut up, demoted them, and then Robert Wright, the head terror expert in Chicago, goes up before the National Press Club and says, "Here's a letter from Ashcroft.

02:37:58.000 "I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know "under national security.

02:38:01.000 All I can tell you is the Bush's vacation with the Bin Laden's. 1.00

02:38:04.000 Here is a Jersey girl, Patty Cazaza, talking about one of the inside whistleblowers giving her this information.

02:38:13.000 I met other whistleblowers on the side of the road in Maryland.

02:38:17.000 You know, to hear what they could tell us.

02:38:19.000 None of them revealed state secrets to us, by the way.

02:38:24.000 But they had information and basically the government knew, you know, other than the exact moment, they knew the date and the method of which the attacks were supposed to come.

02:38:37.000 And none of this made it to mainstream media.

02:38:40.000 None of it made it into the commission.

02:38:42.000 And yet, again, all of your representatives on the day that the commission book came out were on their pulpits saying, what a fabulous job this commission has done, a real service to this nation.

02:38:56.000 And it was anything but a service.

02:38:58.000 It was a complete fabrication.

02:39:00.000 That's Patty Kozaza. 0.87

02:39:03.000 Going back to Mark Stamnoski, two-time Super Bowl winner, five-time Pro Bowler, Dallas Cowboys, and of course the Texas Oilers, now the Tennessee Titans.

02:39:13.000 I mean, that is another amazing testimony right there, and as these things mount, they can't ignore it, Mark.

02:39:19.000 I'll tell you, Alex, I'm so glad that you mentioned the Jersey Girls.

02:39:22.000 I was hoping we could discuss them briefly, because, you know, when people who believe the official story of 9-11 hear skeptics talk about it, they always accuse us of not being sensitive to the victims' families.

02:39:41.000 And that also goes for the war in Iraq or Afghanistan.

02:39:46.000 If you question the official story, if you exhibit any kind of skepticism, they automatically equate that as being disrespectful to the families of the 9-11 victims or of the soldiers who have died in war.

02:40:02.000 And I totally disagree with that, you know, because as you just have shown, the family members of these victims are some of the most outspoken critics of the official story, and they, as much as anyone, are trying to get to the bottom of what really happened on that day.

02:40:19.000 So I believe it's the total opposite, that by questioning these things, we are doing everything we can to help these families of victims and slain soldiers find out The whole reason behind why they had to die in the first place.

02:40:37.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:40:38.000 Over a year and a half ago now, I interviewed in a semi-film, Terror Storm, Bill Doyle, the head of 7,000 plus victims and family members, survivors of 9-11, lost his son, Joey, on that morning.

02:40:53.000 He came on the show and he said, I believe it's a total inside job.

02:40:56.000 The words were total inside job.

02:40:58.000 And he said that the majority of the victims' family groups and victims believe it's a total inside job.

02:41:04.000 But then the media always says all the family members hate us.

02:41:07.000 But there have been family members for five years who've gone out and encircled the White House saying Bush did it, Bush knew.

02:41:14.000 And I saw one little CNN report on that.

02:41:16.000 And so exactly how dare them speak for the victims and family members and those that lost loved ones.

02:41:22.000 When the majority believe it's an inside job, another hoax by the controlled corporate press.

02:41:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:41:28.000 And I think it goes hand-in-hand with the whole secrecy theme that we discussed earlier.

02:41:34.000 Whether it's the 9-11 Commission, whether it's Justice Department emails, whether it's extraordinary rendition by the CIA, it could be domestic spying by the NSA, whatever it is, This administration's policy has been secrecy and denial.

02:41:52.000 So again, that's a pattern that's been clearly established, you know, since the administration began in 2000.

02:42:02.000 So again, I don't understand, you know, people are willing to accept that the administration withheld information and all those other related areas.

02:42:12.000 Yet, for some reason, it's still tough for some people to apply that same thinking to Line 11 and to believe that the administration was keeping secrets about that also.

02:42:24.000 I want to shift gears and come at you from left field, because I just thought of this.

02:42:27.000 About a year and a half ago, we talked to Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother.

02:42:35.000 We got his number.

02:42:36.000 And he said, I don't want to go public right now, but we have a lot of questions.

02:42:40.000 We think he could have been murdered.

02:42:41.000 on purpose to silence him.

02:42:43.000 Now the families publicly said that.

02:42:47.000 The media has tried to spin it and kind of whitewash what they said and play it down.

02:42:50.000 We know that Pat was writing letters back, talking to different anti-war groups, saying that this is all staged.

02:42:57.000 There was even talk, now that we're hearing about, he was talking about 9-11.

02:43:00.000 They would do stage photo ops.

02:43:03.000 Now that other Special Forces folks on who read some of those, stage photo ops, blowing up caves and things that nobody was even in, putting out uniforms and staging events, and that Pat was really mad.

02:43:14.000 Then they admit now that he was shot.

02:43:16.000 Three times at close range in the head, a triple burst, from closer than 15 yards, not thousand yards or whatever, that they kept shooting him, that he kept begging to not be shot, it kept saying stop, and that they basically killed him.

02:43:33.000 Then the Army doctors and investigators said it was murder.

02:43:36.000 They were told to shut up.

02:43:37.000 We know that they killed some of the people that spoke out about the Private Lynch thing being staged.

02:43:42.000 Well, I just think that that whole situation is tragic.

02:43:44.000 Do you have any comments on, and they've admitted a lot of murders have happened in the military to cover things up, any comments on Pat Tillman?

02:43:51.000 Well, I just think that that whole situation is tragic.

02:43:55.000 It's just, it's extremely disappointing to see his idealism be subverted and to be basically him to be used as an agent of propaganda.

02:44:12.000 I didn't know Pat, but I paid attention to his story, you know, simply because he's a former NFL player and it got a lot of attention.

02:44:20.000 And I don't question his motives or his idealism one bit, and I don't fault him in any way for wanting to do what he thought was right.

02:44:30.000 Absolutely.

02:44:30.000 But at the same time, I just think it's tragic that when he did join, he and his brother decided to do what they did, he was championed by the media.

02:44:40.000 He was looked at as a hero, and rightfully so.

02:44:44.000 His story was used as a way to propagate the drums for war further.

02:44:51.000 And then when he wound up unfortunately and tragically getting killed, that was also used as a way to further the agenda for war. 0.54

02:45:02.000 Even though, as you just clearly explained, they didn't tell the truth about the circumstances surrounding his death.

02:45:09.000 So it was so disheartening to see a guy being used throughout the entire process, used as a guy to sell the war, and then after he was killed, that was used as a way to try and drum up patriots.

02:45:24.000 And they covered up the fact that he'd written letters and was firmly against the war, saying it was an illegal war and a fraud.

02:45:32.000 Yeah, and I guess, like you said, you know, he was planning to make some connections with famous anti-war speakers, you know, Noam Chomsky, Cindy Sheehan, those were some names that were thrown around.

02:45:45.000 And again, you know, the whole reason that we're supposed to be over there fighting is for our freedoms, right?

02:45:52.000 It's supposedly to protect our freedoms.

02:45:55.000 Yet here is a guy who obviously had his freedoms suppressed in the most drastic way possible, and that was by killing him.

02:46:03.000 Shifting gears back into 9-11...

02:46:05.000 With Mark Stepnoski, Super Bowl Champion, two-time, five-time Pro Bowler, joining us for 9-11 Truth here today.

02:46:12.000 And again, I want to commend you and thank you and I just admire you more than ever.

02:46:15.000 I never would have thought watching you in the Super Bowl I'd ever be talking to you, much less about such an incredible issue.

02:46:23.000 But here we are brought together with the audience and people listening all over the world right now.

02:46:28.000 What would you like to see happen with 9-11 Truth?

02:46:30.000 Where would you like to see this go?

02:46:32.000 Because people call for another investigation.

02:46:34.000 I'm sure that sounds fine, but it'll just be the same whitewash they already tried to have.

02:46:38.000 Henry Kissinger is the supposed head of it.

02:46:42.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

02:46:44.000 How independent could the commission be?

02:46:48.000 How much power would it have?

02:46:49.000 How much time?

02:46:50.000 You know, how much funding?

02:46:52.000 Uh, we all know how much Bush and Cheney fought the original 9-11 Commission.

02:46:56.000 They didn't want to appear.

02:46:57.000 Then they agreed only to appear together.

02:46:59.000 They wouldn't speak under oath.

02:47:02.000 Uh, they fought over who was going to head it.

02:47:04.000 Uh, they wouldn't, uh, allocate any money towards it.

02:47:08.000 It was just a complete stonewall all the way down the line. 1.00

02:47:12.000 I think that right there should make people skeptical about what the government is saying about 9-11.

02:47:18.000 Well then, what's the plan?

02:47:19.000 I mean, what's your idea, just off the top of your head or from your gut, Mark?

02:47:23.000 I mean, what do you think we should do?

02:47:24.000 Just continue to educate the court of public opinion?

02:47:27.000 Oh, I think that never hurts.

02:47:29.000 I think that, you know, a vital and functioning democracy depends on an informed voting populace.

02:47:36.000 You know, we don't have a chance of holding our leaders accountable if we don't educate the public on what is going on and what we can possibly try to do to prevent it.

02:47:47.000 If you're going to expect constitutional government to react in the way that it's supposed to, then impeachment proceedings would be the way to go.

02:47:56.000 I am not a Democrat.

02:47:59.000 However, I am excited that Dennis Kucinich is trying to get something done along those lines.

02:48:05.000 Where that will lead, who knows?

02:48:08.000 But at the same time, Everything during this administration has been geared towards increasing executive power.

02:48:16.000 At least articles of impeachment would be a step in the other direction.

02:48:20.000 I agree impeachment is key. 0.98

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02:53:02.000 Mark, in closing, I want to ask you about Ron Paul, but we've got about four minutes left.

02:53:07.000 Real fast, that's another point we didn't get into, all the admitted declassified examples of where criminals in our government have staged terror before.

02:53:16.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, as time goes on, as these documents reach the time where they're allowed to be released, I think it'll become more and more apparent to people, you know, how the intelligence agencies work behind the scenes.

02:53:32.000 I'm excited about Ron Paul, just because, you know, He is the only Republican candidate who is against the war.

02:53:40.000 And I think that attitude coincides greatly with the general feeling of the American public.

02:53:46.000 And he's also, for drug decriminalization, he's a medical doctor.

02:53:50.000 He knows that it's a scourge.

02:53:52.000 Absolutely.

02:53:53.000 Very much a libertarian belief.

02:53:55.000 Even though he has to run as a Republican, I mean, he is truly a libertarian.

02:54:00.000 And that belief goes hand-in-hand with libertarian ideology.

02:54:04.000 What would you call your political view if you had to put a label on it?

02:54:08.000 Oh boy, it's hard to say.

02:54:09.000 I mean, it's easy to look at a bunch of different guys and take bits and pieces from what they believe.

02:54:16.000 I am generally reluctant to just put a label on myself or anybody.

02:54:21.000 You want freedom?

02:54:23.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:54:24.000 You know, back in 1989 when the wall came down and the Soviet Union Broke up.

02:54:31.000 We were supposed to realize a peace dividend.

02:54:33.000 You know, we had been through a Cold War for generations.

02:54:36.000 You know, we had had, you know, Korea, Vietnam.

02:54:39.000 We were supposed to experience a peace dividend, and that hasn't happened.

02:54:44.000 As a matter of fact, the exact opposite has happened.

02:54:46.000 You know, we have Donald Rumsfeld talking about the long war.

02:54:50.000 Hundred-year war is a new Britain, man. 0.90

02:54:52.000 Yeah, Richard Cheney saying that, you know, the war that will not end in our lifetimes.

02:54:58.000 So this is just, our foreign policy is going the exact opposite direction of what I think everybody expected it to go in back decades ago when the Soviet Union dissipated.

02:55:10.000 So it's just very disappointing for me to continue to see $450 billion spent every year on the defense budget when so many other things in the United States are crying out for funding.

02:55:24.000 You're absolutely right, but they use it as the organizing force to scare us into submission.

02:55:30.000 They use that tribal instinct to manipulate us against these manufactured boogeymen.

02:55:35.000 Well, you've made a big splash for 9-11 Truth and Mark Statnosky two-time NFL Super Bowl champion, five-time pro bowler, with the team I grew up cheering, the Dallas Cowboys.

02:55:47.000 We salute you for your courage and I look forward to having you back on to talk about normal and drug decriminalization in the near future.

02:55:55.000 I salute you in the true spirit of America and the great tradition of liberty.

02:56:01.000 Thank you for your bold stance and your eloquent defense of liberty.

02:56:05.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:56:06.000 It was a pleasure talking with you today.

02:56:08.000 Mark, again, thank you, sir.

02:56:10.000 Ladies and gentlemen, back tonight on the network 9 to midnight.

02:56:13.000 The show restarts right now at InfoWars.com and on many stations across the country.

02:56:17.000 God bless you all.

02:56:18.000 Now get out there and take on the new world order.

Alex Jones Show - November 07, 2007

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