Alex Jones Show - 20071128_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:42.000 Welcome, thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:44.000 It is the 28th day, the 28th day of November 2007.

00:00:49.000 We were going to have Naomi Wolf on yesterday to talk about the 10 steps to fascism, the 10 easy steps.

00:00:56.000 but we had to reschedule that, so she's joining us coming up in an hour and a half.

00:00:59.000 In 30 minutes, the communications director for the Ron Paul 2008 campaign, Jesse Benton, is going to join us to talk about all the new developments and things that have happened in the media and, of course, the upcoming primaries for a quick update from him.

00:01:13.000 And then John Taylor Gatto, who is a historian and really an expert, because I've researched it in great depth myself, so when I've heard him speak on the radio and read some of his writings, let me tell you it's very accurate.

00:01:25.000 But getting in, and he knows a lot of stuff I didn't know even, but I went and looked into. - Yeah.

00:01:31.000 Concerning really the secret history of American education and how they took us from the most intelligent, most informed, most wealthy, on average, most successful people on earth, and turned us into the lowest test scores, lowest IQ, dumbest, some of the dumbest people on the planet, on average.

00:01:49.000 That's not saying all of us individually are as Americans, but it shows how this process was carried out with great, great skill.

00:02:00.000 Now, we are also going to get into several pieces that I want to comment on and to break down from MSNBC. 0.99

00:02:15.000 And the individuals over there, and the way they're implying that Bush is just an idiot and a moron, which at a certain level is not very articulate compared to a John F. Kennedy or somebody like that, or a Bill Clinton. 0.99

00:02:28.000 But you think he's attacking Bush, and at a certain level they are, but it's partisan. 0.99

00:02:33.000 And as much as I like some of the people that are out there doing that, like John Stewart, Or, of course, Countdown with Keith Uberman.

00:02:46.000 At the end of the day, all of that's going to stop when Hillary gets into office. 1.00

00:02:50.000 And so we need to discuss the next level of all this and where this is going.

00:02:54.000 Also, speaking of Ron Paul, I saw quite a few articles, I read them for about an hour last night, on Ron Paul, even a Washington Post detailed story explaining why Ron Paul is so popular and why all the trends show that libertarian ideas, true paleoconservative ideas, are going to get more and more popular.

00:03:13.000 And how the Republican Party went into Congress in 1994 claiming they were going to be the A party of small government and freedom, and they've become the exact opposite, just like their cohorts, their partners in crime, the Democrats.

00:03:26.000 Now, we've all said this ourselves, but when the Washington Post and the LA Times and a bunch of other newspapers were saying basically the exact same thing, get used to it, the establishment has totally blown their credibility, major societal upheaval and political revolution is in the air.

00:03:45.000 There is now a public admission, I mean, I probably I don't know.

00:03:49.000 Eight, nine articles and I wasn't reading all of them last night.

00:03:52.000 It was just every other article I looked at from big publications were basically saying the same thing.

00:03:59.000 And that's why the establishment is really getting freaked out and upset right now.

00:04:03.000 And that's why the establishment is moving to try to build straw men, to try to discredit us.

00:04:12.000 That's why they're putting out more and more hit pieces.

00:04:15.000 That's why they're spinning what we say and what we do.

00:04:19.000 And, bottom line, bottom line, we need to get ready for this, because we have the momentum, we have the common sense, we have the people on our side, and more and more every day as the population wakes up, but it's still going to be a very, very dangerous road we go down.

00:04:39.000 But it's safer to be awake and aware and fighting back instead of just laying supine prostrate on our backs going along with this.

00:04:48.000 Ton of news straight ahead.

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00:08:00.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:06.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network. 1.00

00:08:10.000 All right, all right before you know the wrong ball and police state war news and economy and all play this clipper people and you know down where he basically implies that bush is a buffoon and idiot uh... 1.00

00:08:34.000 no reason he's a very very wicked cunning individual kind of like a rattlesnake is He is a bumbling fool from so much drug abuse and alcoholism and the rest of it. 0.99

00:08:46.000 That much is clear, but overall, it just makes it all a joke. 0.97

00:08:51.000 And while it's fun to laugh at the things that Bush does, and I've done it myself, so I'm not even really attacking Oberman here, the fact that they continue to make it just a joke really waters down just how serious it is.

00:09:05.000 And the second clip is a better report from Oberman, and I'm just trying to not even critique Oberman, I'm trying to illustrate the fact that we all think people like Oberman and Colbert and others are our little buddies, but I've seen them be very one-sided and friendly towards the Democrats.

00:09:23.000 I mean, Naomi Wolf's supposedly going to be on with us in the next hour.

00:09:26.000 She worked for the Clintons, and she's writing this thing about how we're going into a fascist dictatorship.

00:09:30.000 It's true, but the Clintons are involved.

00:09:33.000 So, we have to realize it's both parties.

00:09:35.000 And I know you as the listeners know that, but the general public still isn't fully aware of that.

00:09:39.000 So here is Keith Olbermann.

00:09:43.000 Good evening, this is Tuesday, November 27, 343 days until the 2008 presidential election.

00:09:49.000 Mispronunciations and faux pas are not the exclusive province of the dummy.

00:09:53.000 Two-time presidential candidate, intellectual, U.N.

00:09:56.000 Ambassador Adlai Stevenson once told the world body that under Fidel Castro, human rights in Cuba, quote, have been circumcised.

00:10:03.000 He meant circumscribed.

00:10:05.000 But in our fifth story on the Countdown, everybody screws up words. 0.61

00:10:09.000 This, however, is getting ridiculous.

00:10:11.000 During his cameo at the Israeli-Palestinian conference in Maryland today, the President had less luck with the names of the participants than Czech President Václav Havel did with Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa in 1998.

00:10:25.000 With no new American proposals or promises to actually help facilitate the peace process, the rhetoric of progress ringing hollow at the U.S.

00:10:32.000 Naval Academy in Annapolis this morning.

00:10:34.000 And so did the pronunciation ring hollow.

00:10:37.000 The President, flanked by leaders from Israel and the Palestinian territories, tried to convey an air of import and gravitas.

00:10:43.000 Even putting on glasses before he embarrassed everybody.

00:10:48.000 The representatives of the government of the State of Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

00:10:53.000 Represented respectively by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and President Mahmoud Abbas in his capacity as Chairman of the PLO Executive Committee.

00:11:05.000 Elmo was not there.

00:11:07.000 That would be Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and President Mahmoud Abbas he's talking about.

00:11:12.000 Mark McGuire and Sammy Shuster.

00:11:15.000 But why remember names when the only reason for being there was to secure a photo opportunity for posterity?

00:11:20.000 Though incredibly, Mr. Bush even needed help to do that properly.

00:11:25.000 Congratulations for your strong leadership.

00:11:29.000 Thank you.

00:11:29.000 Thus, with the help of a man whose name he can't pronounce and whose company he quit after a mere three hours, with the help of a man whose name he can't pronounce and whose company he quit We're joined now by our own Richard Wolff, Senior White House Correspondent for Newsweek Magazine.

00:11:54.000 Richard, good evening.

00:11:55.000 Good to be with you, Keith.

00:11:57.000 Well, in any event, the President could only spend 120 minutes in Annapolis, if that much, This afternoon he made time to grant an interview to the Associated Press.

00:12:06.000 He said he's been, quote, very engaged up to the moment in the peace process and that he's concerned that it won't work.

00:12:13.000 So why has he avoided going to the countries and why did he leave after three hours today?

00:12:18.000 Well, there are a couple of ways to look at this.

00:12:20.000 First of all, any peace process at all, after seven years of nothing under this administration, is to be welcomed.

00:12:29.000 And it is a significant step forward.

00:12:33.000 But look, if this president can achieve this much, doing relatively little, then imagine what he could achieve actually engaging with this.

00:12:42.000 So, as this moves forward, remember this is the beginning of this, not the end, there is scope for him to actually become much more fully engaged than he has.

00:12:52.000 The White House says he's been making phone calls, he's been doing stuff, but we all know from his language, from his schedule, that's not the case.

00:13:02.000 He could do a lot more and he could achieve a lot more.

00:13:04.000 But when the AP pressed him on what he thinks is very engaged, according to his own terms today about the Mideast Peace Mission, Mr. Bush replied, I work the phones, I listen, I encourage, I have meetings, I do a lot of things.

00:13:18.000 He ran out of specifics after meetings?

00:13:20.000 Why didn't he just go back to that line from the debates three years ago that it's all hard work?

00:13:27.000 Every model that has happened before with American presidents getting involved in the Middle East, whether it's Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has been about personal engagement.

00:13:35.000 I have no doubt that Secretary Rice will fully immerse herself in this, but it does require leadership.

00:13:41.000 The way the president has looked at this, the way he expressed it today, was as a bilateral negotiation between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

00:13:49.000 Well, yeah, the two countries have to work things out.

00:13:51.000 But it's been bilateral for seven years, and bilateral has meant war.

00:13:55.000 So really, it does require, in the words of one very close American ally, it requires babysitting.

00:14:01.000 There is only one babysitter that can happen here, and that's the United States of America.

00:14:05.000 And it goes on and on.

00:14:06.000 The bigger issue here is the establishment engages in a tactic I call putting things into a process.

00:14:15.000 And where you have untenable events, and both sides killing each other, and the Palestinians living in absolute degradation, the Israeli population living in fear under military censors and control, this just endlessly stretches it out, and it's meant to go on and on, and it's not meant to have any real peace process, but they constantly make the public think that.

00:14:36.000 Just like with Iraq, they keep saying, oh, well, we'll be able to tell you when we can pull out next year. 1.00

00:14:43.000 But if you actually read the Pentagon War Plans, they intend to be there for at least 30 years and to build What, six giant permanent bases?

00:14:53.000 Thirty smaller bases?

00:14:54.000 One of them, the biggest U.S.

00:14:56.000 Embassy in the world?

00:14:56.000 It'll hold 3,000 people?

00:14:58.000 A giant command base?

00:14:59.000 And now they're saying, oh, 50,000 troops are basically going to stay there forever, because the Iraqi government has just now asked us to stay, and has just now asked us to build bases.

00:15:10.000 They've been building bases since day one, and then now they act like the puppet government has made this decision and told us to stay, and so it doesn't matter what the American people want.

00:15:21.000 Speaking of that, do you have that Fox News clip?

00:15:25.000 No, there's another Fox News clip I sent you.

00:15:27.000 I forgot to ask if you had it, where Fox News is talking about how we're not going to end the war, how we're going to keep troops there.

00:15:33.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and play that one.

00:15:35.000 It's another example of how they put it into a process and then keep stretching it out to another year, another year, another year, another year.

00:15:43.000 That's how they run these occupations. 0.99

00:15:44.000 Here it is.

00:15:45.000 President Bush and Iraqi leader Nouri al-Maliki have signed a deal setting a foundation for the long-term relationship between the U.S.

00:15:52.000 and Iraq.

00:15:53.000 The pact will be negotiated next year and is supposed to be finalized by July.

00:15:58.000 Senior Iraqi officials say Iraq will offer America military bases outside major Iraqi cities in return for security guarantees against both foreign threats and internal attacks.

00:16:09.000 The plan calls for a long-term U.S. 0.55

00:16:11.000 force of about 50,000 troops Down from the current figure of more than 160,000.

00:16:16.000 So there's the announcement on Fox News.

00:16:22.000 Now we told you a year before the war that was the plan.

00:16:25.000 Not because we are riding around in gypsy caravans and have crystal balls, but because the Pentagon and the Israeli war planners had said as early as 1983 this was the plan.

00:16:39.000 Break Iraq in three to four parts, Show sectarian violence, spread rebellion and discord and destabilization into the rest of the region, all part of a balkanization strategy. 0.95

00:16:51.000 All part of a divide-and-conquer strategy.

00:16:56.000 And that's exactly what they've done.

00:16:58.000 Now, compare that to this Keith Olbermann report that is very illuminating, and does point out the hypocritical nature of Fox News and others concerning 9-11, and those of us that even dare talk about prior knowledge, or letting it happen, or Bush knew, here it is.

00:17:16.000 First person in the world to bronze, the Bathtub Head himself, John Gibson, host of Fox Noises, is the big, I'm sorry, co-host.

00:17:22.000 Now how's that working out for him?

00:17:25.000 After the Scott McCullin, Freudian slip, Gibby reiterates, whoever out of Valerie Flames should get a medal, and who is I?

00:17:31.000 Carl World, I'd pin it on him myself.

00:17:33.000 Bathtub Head's explanation?

00:17:35.000 He knows the inside story, that she was part of a, quote, anti-Bush cabal inside the CIA, something that should be rooted out.

00:17:43.000 John, you do realize that you're such a non-insider.

00:17:46.000 You've just exhausted your knowledge on the subject by successfully spelling CIA.

00:17:52.000 Our runner-up, Rudolph Giuliani, buying those rationalizations by the carload lot, trying now to take back his 1972 presidential vote for George McGovern by telling the Weekly Standard, quote, I had traditionally been a Democrat.

00:18:04.000 It was almost like a reflex mode.

00:18:06.000 I actually remember saying to myself, if I was a person really deciding who should be president right now, I'd probably vote for Nixon, because then the country would be safer with Nixon.

00:18:13.000 My concern was the Soviets. 0.94

00:18:15.000 Foreign policy.

00:18:16.000 Strong military.

00:18:18.000 So, you were for Nixon before you were against him?

00:18:21.000 My, Rudy, 344 days to the election, you've already run out of BS?

00:18:26.000 But our winner, the New York Post, mocking the Ohio University poll, showing that 62% of Americans agree that it is either very likely or somewhat likely that the government failed to heed warnings about 9-11.

00:18:38.000 You know, like the Intel Roundup titled, Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S., or the flight school warning from Phoenix, or the tenant briefing. 0.59

00:18:47.000 So this is what the clowns at the New York Post put up as their headline about this. 0.66

00:18:50.000 Blame U.S. 1.00

00:18:51.000 for 9-11 idiots in majority! 1.00

00:18:55.000 Ah, but how big a majority? 1.00

00:18:56.000 And who are those blame U.S. 1.00

00:18:58.000 for 9-11 idiots? 1.00

00:18:59.000 Same newspaper, New York Post, April 12, 2002. 1.00

00:19:01.000 Front page.

00:19:03.000 Bush, no!

00:19:04.000 Prez was warned of possible hijackings before terror attacks!

00:19:10.000 See, anybody can throw somebody under a bus, even a president under a bus, but it takes particularly elastic morality to pretend you have pulled him out from under the bus and then to start yelling at others as if they did it.

00:19:23.000 The New York Post, your best defense against dog droppings.

00:19:27.000 Today's worst persons in the world!

00:19:34.000 But still, still, it's a joke.

00:19:39.000 See, they present it as a joke.

00:19:43.000 When Fox News talks about how they've got cameras on police cars scanning all your plates, or cameras in school bathrooms, or door-to-door gun searches, they'll say it's bad, but they'll laugh about it.

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00:25:57.000 Let me shift gears now to another subject.

00:26:00.000 This is from the Associated Press.

00:26:02.000 Athens, Greece.

00:26:03.000 Big brother.

00:26:05.000 Head of Greek Privacy Watchdog resigns over police use of cameras to monitor protests.

00:26:12.000 The head of Greece's Privacy Watchdog, their government watchdog group, resigned Monday over the government's use of traffic cameras.

00:26:20.000 So they first put them in for traffic, then it's for spying.

00:26:22.000 To monitor demonstrations, raising the stakes in a heated dispute over civil liberties.

00:26:28.000 Now, even in Communist China, the government has gotten in trouble because it's so much seen as Big Brother.

00:26:35.000 Even in China, where they arrest you for your speech.

00:26:38.000 That the general public, though, see, they can arrest you over there by claiming you violated the government's code, and they go after you.

00:26:47.000 But then they also say, but if you aren't under suspicion, you shouldn't be watched.

00:26:50.000 They have more of a Fourth Amendment over there than we have here now. 1.00

00:26:56.000 And there were articles months ago about that in China, where they've been forced to take down cameras in parks and other areas, because lo and behold, the Chinese population protested and sued and went into the government offices.

00:27:09.000 And members of the Communist Party said, of all people, you can't do that.

00:27:15.000 Now, in Greece, they are talking about taking them out.

00:27:24.000 Petrius Gorgakis, I'll pronounce that right, said police directly breached his powerful Data Protection Authority regulations by using closed-circuit cameras for surveillance at a Central Athens protest Saturday, despite a ban.

00:27:39.000 Now let's stop right there.

00:27:41.000 Under federal and state laws, the police aren't allowed to run your plates unless they have probable cause.

00:27:46.000 They think That you might be driving drunk or and it's pretty easy Level, I mean, I mean, there's not much there but but but still they're supposed to have some probable cause to run your plates Under the next system We were reading this article out of Popular mechanics of all places pushing how great this is you're staying Mike here at the office of you know, there are logins that we pulled it up in there indeed is and

00:28:17.000 And so I'm illustrating here how they have face scanning cameras, millions of cameras all over the country, small towns have federally installed cameras.

00:28:24.000 They told the general public ten years ago, oh these are just for traffic, but yeah, dual use, they're for spying on the public.

00:28:29.000 Now they admit they are.

00:28:31.000 Cameras in school bathrooms, cameras in the schools.

00:28:33.000 I mean, no one can deny this is Big Brother.

00:28:36.000 The cameras hooked into the police departments.

00:28:38.000 No privacy, no due process, no nothing, guilty until proven innocent.

00:28:42.000 And now I have an article Here, out of the Palm Beach Post, that is talking about how they have the cameras that shout orders at you at the beach.

00:28:52.000 If you start kissing or holding hands, it's a quote, anti-sex cameras, but also a quote to fight crime.

00:28:58.000 So now they shout orders at you.

00:28:59.000 They want you to know the cameras are there, and they have this oppressive control.

00:29:04.000 But here it is out of Poplar Mechanics.

00:29:06.000 I've been telling you about this for about eight, nine years.

00:29:08.000 Because I would see the federal grants and state grants for this and it was never in the news then.

00:29:13.000 The last four or five years it has been in the news that Houston, Austin, San Diego, LA, New York, a bunch of cities have gotten it.

00:29:23.000 And it is Police cars with cameras on both sides that can read hundreds of plates a second, and they're running everybody's plates, and they got cameras on the poles doing it.

00:29:32.000 And so this is Big Brother, and we got Jesse Benton from the Ron Paul campaign coming up, but after we have him on, I'm gonna get back into all this, and look at how in China they see what it is, in Greece they see what it is, but in England and the U.S.

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00:33:58.000 I sat down with Big Brother and the National ID.

00:34:07.000 Don't want a chip in my wallet Chip in my car And if I want to travel It's nobody's business how far Don't want no shackles Don't want no shackles on me I said shame on big brother Always tracking and tracing me

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00:36:47.000 It's all about liberty.

00:36:51.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:36:58.000 I've got Naomi Wolf coming up next hour if the time zone bug doesn't continue to get our guest as well as Jesse Benton and John Taylor Gatto with the secret history of education all coming up in the second and third hour.

00:37:15.000 Right now let me just go ahead and get back into this report Top 5 Next Generation Cop Car Gadgets.

00:37:29.000 And it says number 3.

00:37:30.000 This is Popular Mechanics, good old Hearst Publishing, telling us how great it is.

00:37:33.000 Now, notice, this is in the news a decade after it started being tested, five years after it's been put in, in a whole string of states that I knew about.

00:37:43.000 In fact, it says, what, New Jersey, it says Texas, I know it's in California, And I've seen it on Austin cars.

00:37:54.000 I've seen it on... It's got actually four cameras.

00:37:58.000 It's black pods around the sirens on each end.

00:38:04.000 And it says here that it reads all of your license plates and runs them.

00:38:12.000 In about 20 milliseconds, the officer gets results in near real time.

00:38:17.000 So we're going to be getting into that A little bit later, and then illustrate just how serious these Big Brother tools are.

00:38:25.000 You're being searched, you're being scanned, and it's also been incorporated into the cameras that are on the light poles and everywhere, because if those are digital cameras, they're able to run them in to the quote, threat matrix centers, county emergency management centers that have FEMA and the feds within them, hooked into the Pentagon, hooked into the Department of Transportation, I'll never forget one morning my dad called me about five years ago and said, turn to C-SPAN, turn to C-SPAN about 7 a.m.

00:38:51.000 and I turned it on and they had the federal head of the Department of Transportation on bragging and they were flipping around the different cameras around the country showing how the feds had put these systems in and I saw other cities my dad said that before I flipped over there they were showing Austin Roads.

00:39:07.000 And then flipping to downtown Austin and showing people walking around and bragging about the federal control.

00:39:13.000 But you don't have to believe me about that C-SPAN program.

00:39:15.000 You can just go Google it and pull the news articles up.

00:39:18.000 So this is the control.

00:39:19.000 And this is the control that Congressman Ron Paul We'll attempt to reverse as president and I don't know what to say.

00:39:28.000 It's just a meteoric rise continues.

00:39:31.000 So we got Jesse Benton on, the Head Communications Director, Director Communications, RonPaul2008.com.

00:39:38.000 Jesse's on the road.

00:39:39.000 We're very thankful for your time, Jesse.

00:39:41.000 It's great to be with you.

00:39:41.000 Thanks, Al.

00:39:43.000 Where are you right now?

00:39:44.000 I am in sunny Clearwater, Florida, here for the CNN YouTube-based debate that's happening tonight.

00:39:52.000 Tell us, in the run-up, what some of the issues the Congress is planning to focus on are.

00:40:01.000 Well, tonight, you know, Rob's going to talk about freedom like he normally does, and I think tonight's debate is going to have an interesting little twist.

00:40:08.000 I don't know how many of your listeners checked out the Democratic YouTube debate, but it's all going to be questions that are submitted by Regular people out there in America through YouTube videos, and I think it really gives Ron a great opportunity to be able to address the concerns of real Americans that have taken the time to make these videos and submit these questions.

00:40:31.000 I mean, that's just great, and anytime that Ron can get closer to the American people, he just really shines, and people just realize he's the one that's really defending the best interests of the American people.

00:40:44.000 Well, he certainly is.

00:40:46.000 Jesse, we're very thankful for your hard work as well.

00:40:48.000 How are you holding up to the schedule?

00:40:51.000 Believe me, just being around Dr. Paul is all the motivation anybody needs.

00:40:55.000 It's such an honor and a privilege.

00:40:57.000 I'm nobody special.

00:40:58.000 I'm just lucky enough to have the greatest job in the world and working for the best politician in my generation.

00:41:03.000 Jesse, I know that you probably had to step away somewhere.

00:41:07.000 Where are you right now?

00:41:10.000 We are at a funder in a restaurant down in Clearwater, Florida.

00:41:14.000 Just having a private little fundraiser.

00:41:15.000 You know, just more people getting together.

00:41:18.000 You know, we have people on the internet getting together to give money.

00:41:20.000 We have people that want to step up and talk to Dr. Paul and are willing to part with their hard-earned Federal Reserve notes to have lunch with Dr. Paul.

00:41:28.000 So, I've just stepped away.

00:41:30.000 Jesse, we're not going to keep you too long.

00:41:32.000 Is there a way you can step into another office because the echo is so bad you're almost unintelligible?

00:41:37.000 He echoed it so bad I'm unintelligible.

00:41:39.000 Is this any better?

00:41:40.000 That is a lot better.

00:41:41.000 Is it?

00:41:42.000 Oh, great.

00:41:42.000 Okay.

00:41:43.000 I apologize.

00:41:44.000 It was bad before.

00:41:45.000 Yeah, problem solved.

00:41:46.000 I don't know what you did, brother, but it did it.

00:41:53.000 Let's talk strategy.

00:41:54.000 Let's talk what you need the troops listening right now to do.

00:41:59.000 Well, I think everybody realized just how important November the 5th was.

00:42:05.000 It was amazing to see what the grassroots was able to do.

00:42:09.000 You had a big role in that, Alex.

00:42:10.000 It was amazing what you were able to do and all the grassroots supporters out there were able to do.

00:42:17.000 No, you know, the publicity that we got from having this unprecedented fundraising day, November 5th, was amazing.

00:42:23.000 The money that we were able to pull in over $4 million in one day, record-setting day, was incredible.

00:42:28.000 And I guess it looks like people are organizing another amazing event for November 16th.

00:42:34.000 The campaign is Well, that's why Trevor Lyman came up with the idea for a surge on the last day of November, this Friday, to try to go to that $12 million mark.

00:42:40.000 Also, grassroots out there, don't forget that we also need a consistent revenue stream, too, coming into the campaign.

00:42:47.000 Well, that's why Trevor Lyman came up with the idea for a surge on the last day of November, this Friday, to try to go to that $12 million mark.

00:42:57.000 That'll get massive press that a month early, Ron Paul would break his $12 million record.

00:43:03.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:43:04.000 us that'll get more money in so we need i'm going to give well i'll give my maximum but i'm going to make sure i'm going to try to convince others to give this friday and then of course continually up until the 15th and 16th yeah you're right uh we you know we've heard about this about this uh other money surge that uh that people are trying to put together for the 30th and you know we're real excited to see what comes together on on the 30th if we if we could hit that 12 million dollar mark on the 30th first of all it's smooth out our revenue stream for us a little bit

00:43:33.000 it's going to allow us to start pumping more earned media into the states that are coming up on february 5th and uh I mean, I cannot put into words how incredible this is.

00:43:42.000 our day you know it would be absolutely incredible and we are just so thankful that the grassroots is putting this together spontaneously we can't wait to see what happens on November 30th we also can't wait to see what's gonna happen on December 16th we hope they're both gonna be great days absolutely I mean I cannot put into words how incredible this is last night Jesse I spent about it's almost embarrassing It was more than an hour.

00:44:11.000 Late night reading, just typing Ron Paul into Google and clicking news.

00:44:15.000 Thousands of new articles just in the last few days.

00:44:20.000 I read 20 or so, and more than half of them, Washington Post, LA Times, were saying the same thing.

00:44:27.000 They were saying both parties have blown their credibility.

00:44:30.000 The Republicans came in in 94 as a small government.

00:44:33.000 They did the opposite.

00:44:35.000 They came in as anti-tyranny, did the opposite.

00:44:37.000 The Democrats have blown their name.

00:44:39.000 And all of the big political pundits, and by all, all the ones that aren't under Republican or Democratic pay right now, but big names, as I'm sure you're aware, are suddenly shifted and said, look, Ron Paul may not win, and we believe he will and he has a shot, but regardless, this is only the start of a total realignment but regardless, this is only the start of a total realignment towards libertarian slash paleo-conservative And to me, and I had to quit reading, Jesse.

00:45:04.000 I mean, it was article after article after article basically capitulating and saying, we're not kooks, we're the mainstream, there's been a major realignment, the liberals are waking up and becoming libertarian, conservatives are rediscovering their roots.

00:45:18.000 Ciao.

00:45:18.000 Can you speak to that?

00:45:20.000 You know, Alex, I think you're hitting the nail right on the head there.

00:45:23.000 We have such amazing traditions in America.

00:45:26.000 Liberty is such a new concept.

00:45:28.000 We've had 5,000 years of tyranny.

00:45:29.000 We've had 200 years of liberty.

00:45:35.000 That started here in America. 0.56

00:45:36.000 Liberty is a new revolutionary idea that we started in America.

00:45:40.000 We have such amazing traditions in America of limited government, personal freedom, personal responsibility.

00:45:46.000 We've strayed away from that, but we haven't gone so far that we can't easily right the ship if we follow the Constitution, follow men like Ron Paul.

00:45:54.000 And I think Americans are really just waking up to that.

00:45:57.000 We can restore our American traditions, restore our revolution of freedom, And we can do it.

00:46:04.000 We can look to our answers in the Constitution, in our great American traditions, and we can get this country back on track.

00:46:04.000 It's not hard.

00:46:12.000 Now, Jesse, Lyman and others have come up with the idea for this blimp, but that costs $300,000.

00:46:19.000 I think it'll be a great publicity stunt.

00:46:20.000 I'm all for it.

00:46:22.000 I am personally maxed out on giving.

00:46:24.000 My wife is close to maxed out on giving, but she's going to give again Friday for this November 30th surge. 0.97

00:46:31.000 But what do you think of the idea, because I've looked into it before, it's between $300 and $500, $1,000 if you want to have the plane stop and refuel, to have Cessnas over bowl games this weekend, the next weekend, and the weekend after that.

00:46:45.000 People, every major city, just Google it, you know, aerial advertising.

00:46:50.000 Today I'm going to call, just like I said I was going to get that poll, I did that with Zogby, a fair poll.

00:46:56.000 I'm going to buy airplanes on it because it's so inexpensive comparatively.

00:47:00.000 I'm going to buy airplanes on at least three dates coming up in the next two weeks, the next three weeks, and then one coming up in the primaries.

00:47:09.000 And I want everybody else to buy airplanes that say RonPaul2008.com.

00:47:14.000 I'll even buy the jumbo longer banners and have them fly over bowl games and over big concerts.

00:47:19.000 What do you think of that?

00:47:21.000 I think it sounds like a wonderful idea, Alex.

00:47:23.000 And you know what's been so amazing about this campaign is the grassroots support like this.

00:47:28.000 You know, the campaign is about freedom and the message about freedom and the way this campaign has run has been about freedom.

00:47:35.000 It's been so much bigger than our little campaign headquarters in Arlington, Virginia.

00:47:39.000 It's so much huger.

00:47:40.000 It's about the grassroots.

00:47:41.000 It's about people like you that are coming up with these amazing, spontaneous, Creative ideas.

00:47:46.000 Freedom unleashes the creativity and the power of the human and the American spirit, and that's what's driving these wonderful ideas.

00:47:56.000 So many people are coming up with these terrific, creative ideas on their own, independent of the campaign, cooperating with the campaign, supporting the campaign, supporting Dr. Paul, and supporting freedom, and that is our ace in the hole.

00:48:09.000 That is what the other campaigns can't buy.

00:48:13.000 Absolutely.

00:48:14.000 Now, Jesse, give me your political instincts.

00:48:16.000 I mean, you've shown to be very cunning when it comes to getting the message of liberty and freedom out there.

00:48:24.000 I told Trevor, when we kind of conceived of this new offensive, and we kind of brainstormed here on air, that I thought it should be the 15th and 16th to try to raise $5 million each day, and I predict What do you think?

00:48:37.000 might not even hit the goal the first day, probably get $3 or $4 million, but the hysteria it would cause is everybody has another day to spread the word and let that firestorm break out that on the Sunday we'd probably raise $6, $7 million.

00:48:50.000 I think a two-dayer.

00:48:52.000 Trevor's looking at, because originally we said two-day, then others wanted one day.

00:48:56.000 What do you think, two-day or one-day money bomb?

00:48:58.000 You know, one thing that I have noticed is with this thermometer or this live contribution counter, it really does build momentum over time.

00:49:11.000 When we first really started to gain traction, it was at the end of last quarter, we were trying to raise $500,000 in one week.

00:49:19.000 And, gosh, think how far we've come.

00:49:20.000 We're talking about $10 million over the course of a couple days, and that's for a realistic goal.

00:49:25.000 But, you know, we saw it start to take off, and it fed on itself.

00:49:28.000 The momentum created other momentum.

00:49:30.000 People get excited to see the meter go up.

00:49:32.000 They get excited to see their contribution.

00:49:34.000 Exactly!

00:49:35.000 We need two days.

00:49:35.000 One day's too short.

00:49:38.000 You know, it's going to be up to the grassroots out there, but for my two cents, two days sounds like a smart idea.

00:49:46.000 Well, that's what Trevor wants to do, but he's kind of going with the blogs and forums, but I think that once they hear what you have to say, they might listen to it.

00:49:52.000 Regardless, we want to get the hype going Saturday, get the media paying attention, instead of them just paying attention at the end of the second day.

00:49:59.000 And I would think that $4.2 million, wouldn't you say we got a quadrupling for the campaign in just massive media coverage?

00:50:07.000 Oh, we sure did, gosh.

00:50:09.000 You know, we were covered on virtually every single mainstream media outlet.

00:50:13.000 It was just incredible.

00:50:15.000 I am at a loss to estimate the value of that, but, you know, it was just incredible, the coverage, the Fable coverage.

00:50:22.000 People were blown away, and, you know, as you know, our biggest obstacle we still have to overcome is nationwide name recognition.

00:50:32.000 And when we get that kind of media coverage, that is chipping away at that nationwide name recognition that we really need.

00:50:40.000 Jesse, I know that you're in the middle of a fundraiser, but we've got a three-minute break.

00:50:44.000 I want to come back and talk about the primary dates, the foot soldiers, the sign bombs, the knocking on door surge.

00:50:51.000 I want to get some orders from headquarters on the other side for about two minutes.

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00:54:31.000 We're not going along with them.

00:54:32.000 Jesse, in the few minutes we've got left with you here as you're out there in the field, We were talking during the break, and I guess the info I had was correct.

00:54:40.000 You need money now to be able to budget it out for the rest of this month, but if you get $5-10 million on the 15th and 16th, you're going to be able to spend that coming up in January and February in the primaries.

00:54:52.000 Yeah, oh, absolutely.

00:54:53.000 I mean, every dollar we get is a blessing, and if we have another record-setting day on the 15th and 16th, that is nothing but good stuff.

00:55:01.000 However, you know, we do need money in the meantime, because we're setting our budgets now.

00:55:05.000 How much can we spend in the state?

00:55:06.000 I'm in Florida right now.

00:55:07.000 How much can we spend here?

00:55:08.000 We want to hire some new staff.

00:55:10.000 We want to think about how much paid media we can do down here, and we're making those budgets now.

00:55:14.000 So, you know, the 15th and the 16th is phenomenal.

00:55:18.000 We also need money now as well.

00:55:21.000 Now, for folks that don't know, this week in a lot of these first primary states is the deadline to switch Republican.

00:55:27.000 If you were a Libertarian or a Democrat, people need to switch over now and then give us some of the basic states.

00:55:34.000 Yeah, well, you need to know the rules of your local state, and we've got all those guidelines on our website, RonPaul2008.com.

00:55:44.000 We've got the rules for your specific state as far as voting requirements, registration dates, all that, open, closed primaries, caucuses, things like that.

00:55:52.000 We've also, Alex, got guidelines on how to become a delegate, and that is one of the most important things that you could do to support the Ron Paul campaign out there, is to become a Ron Paul delegate.

00:56:03.000 That is what really is going to drive this thing.

00:56:08.000 We need as many Ron Paul delegates as possible.

00:56:12.000 Absolutely, and again, what are the most important battleground states, and give us some of those dates, Jesse.

00:56:18.000 Let's see, right now we've got the Iowa Caucus, January 3rd.

00:56:21.000 We've got New Hampshire, primary, January 8th.

00:56:25.000 Then on the 19th, we've got the Nevada primary, and then I believe on the 24th will be South Carolina.

00:56:33.000 All very critical.

00:56:35.000 We think we're playing extremely well on all those.

00:56:38.000 If I botched any of those dates, I'm sure I'm going to hear about it.

00:56:42.000 Those are the four early ones that are coming up.

00:56:46.000 Hard on us now.

00:56:47.000 We're four weeks out here.

00:56:49.000 We're four weeks out from when we're going to start voting.

00:56:54.000 This thing is coming up on us.

00:56:55.000 We've got to start getting ready.

00:56:57.000 Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, we're playing hard in those.

00:57:01.000 We're spending millions and millions.

00:57:03.000 And here's a football analogy.

00:57:06.000 You guys are on the one yard line.

00:57:08.000 I mean, you are right up there.

00:57:10.000 You've got three feet to go, but you're on fourth down.

00:57:13.000 We need to give the full effort now to get the touchdown.

00:57:16.000 You're absolutely right.

00:57:17.000 I mean, if we had six or eight more months, I have no question in my mind that we would win this campaign.

00:57:23.000 And we could also be a little bit more leisurely in our approach.

00:57:26.000 But right now, you're absolutely right.

00:57:28.000 It's the fourth quarter.

00:57:29.000 The clock is ticking.

00:57:31.000 We're out of timeouts.

00:57:32.000 We have to put everybody out there that cares about freedom, has to put their full effort into this thing right now, because we're going to run out of time if we don't.

00:57:39.000 Yeah, folks, don't wish later that you wouldn't have been part of history.

00:57:42.000 I don't normally get up here and electioneer, but it's my free speech right, and I'm doing it because RonPaul2008.com needs your help.

00:57:48.000 A lot of our listeners aren't on the computer.

00:57:50.000 Give them the toll-free number, Jesse.

00:57:54.000 1-800-RON-PAUL.

00:57:56.000 Got a staff standing by ready to help you out if you're not on the internet.

00:57:59.000 1-800-RON-PAUL.

00:58:00.000 Ron Paul's schedule for those that aren't on the internet.

00:58:02.000 Where's he going to be in the next few days?

00:58:04.000 We're in Florida right now, then we'll be heading to New Hampshire over the weekend.

00:58:04.000 Let's see.

00:58:09.000 And we need people to be in Iowa and New Hampshire right now.

00:58:12.000 If you live in those states, you are blessed.

00:58:14.000 We need you to knock on doors.

00:58:15.000 Do they need to call the campaign to get tips on how to canvas?

00:58:20.000 We're completely happy to help you out with any canvassing tips you want.

00:58:24.000 Call the campaign, email us.

00:58:26.000 We've also got plenty of guidelines online.

00:58:28.000 And get in touch with your local meetup group.

00:58:29.000 If you're not signed up at a meetup group, join one and get together with other people that care about canvas.

00:58:36.000 Thank you so much, Jesse.

00:58:39.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:58:41.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:56.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:58.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:00.000 You want answers?

00:59:01.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:03.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:12.000 Yeah, this is history of the Rockwall 2008 campaign.

00:59:17.000 I never got to this yesterday.

00:59:19.000 But I'm going to cover this now, then I'm going to get into all the Big Brother developments that we haven't covered in detail in a while.

00:59:26.000 Very important, some new developments there.

00:59:29.000 Naomi Wolf is joining us today on this Wednesday edition, the 28th day of November 2007.

00:59:36.000 But it was very suspicious last week when Ron Paul, last Tuesday, was in Las Vegas.

00:59:46.000 And then in Reno and in Las Vegas, in walks Tucker Carlson of MSNBC, who's been claiming he's for Ron Paul but then still making little sniveling side remarks, shows up with the head of the bunny ranch, and the media all they know says, oh, look, Ron Paul was able to and the media all they know says, oh, look, Ron Paul was Ron Paul was able to get him, implying that he was there for Ron Paul.

01:00:09.000 Turns out MSNBC went and contacted him and got him to come as part of a stunt, and the media spun it.

01:00:17.000 Again, some people here in the background, oh, the pimps are for him.

01:00:24.000 And there's a big story up on Infowars.net that Steve Watson did covering that.

01:00:30.000 But there's other examples of this.

01:00:34.000 It happened last Wednesday into Thanksgiving, and it was on CBS News, AP, it was everywhere.

01:00:42.000 And they do this over and over again.

01:00:43.000 And this is an example of dirty tricks.

01:00:45.000 First, they read the Liberty Dollar.

01:00:47.000 No doubt they did that to demonize Ron Paul now and associate him with quote, counterfeiting and illegal money, when it wasn't counterfeiting or illegal.

01:00:53.000 And even the search warrant, you know, is now bearing that out.

01:00:57.000 And even NPR and CNN have made fun of the fads.

01:01:02.000 So they're losing that PR battle.

01:01:04.000 But we have a shopping cart here.

01:01:06.000 And every day, there's two or three, sometimes more, fraudulent orders.

01:01:10.000 And they'll come in and order something, but you can always tell because it'll be the same address over and over again.

01:01:15.000 We just learn to spot them, and then we just refund them back.

01:01:18.000 Well, usually they haven't even run through, so we just delete them, because we have to process them and run them through.

01:01:24.000 And I've talked to people who run other shopping carts.

01:01:27.000 I mean, you could be selling seeds, you could be selling baby strollers, you could be selling coffee, every major shopping cart out there of any size.

01:01:35.000 Anybody who's got one's had this happen.

01:01:37.000 Has people test credit cards?

01:01:39.000 Amazon reportedly has tens of thousands of credit cards tested a day on them, because they're the biggest out there.

01:01:45.000 Well, Ron Paul had $3,000 of fraudulent charges, gifts, last week, and then they noticed it, and so they contacted the bank credit card it was, and said, here's your money back.

01:01:59.000 Because with their political contribution, it does process it, because they use the PayPal.

01:02:04.000 And the media then had headlines like, Ron Paul involved in bank fraud, and then it would say later, oh it was a shopping cart and there were a couple of fraudulent orders testing cards.

01:02:16.000 But then I heard it on talk radio.

01:02:18.000 Look at these Ron Paul people.

01:02:20.000 Look at them.

01:02:21.000 They're involved.

01:02:22.000 A white supremacist gave $500.

01:02:25.000 That nut Alex Jones gives them money.

01:02:28.000 And look at that.

01:02:29.000 He's involved with criminal gold and silver coins.

01:02:33.000 Oh, look at him.

01:02:34.000 Bank heists now.

01:02:36.000 Fraudulent donations. 1.00

01:02:38.000 These Ron Paul people are criminals. 0.98

01:02:42.000 See how they do that? 0.99

01:02:43.000 See how they play?

01:02:45.000 They bring people.

01:02:46.000 MSNBC. 0.59

01:02:47.000 Tucker Carlson brings the brothel head.

01:02:49.000 Contacted him.

01:02:50.000 AP, it turns out, was told that, but still ran with the fraud.

01:02:54.000 This is what they do.

01:02:57.000 Or, Ron Paul's campaign just contacts the bank, because they'd already processed the contributions.

01:03:02.000 It says, here's $3,000 back.

01:03:04.000 We think these are fraudulent.

01:03:05.000 The bank said, oh yes they are.

01:03:06.000 Thank you.

01:03:07.000 Quite routine.

01:03:07.000 The bank said, oh yeah, they're just testing cards.

01:03:10.000 We have this problem.

01:03:12.000 It's a big problem.

01:03:13.000 And, uh, that's the end of it.

01:03:16.000 But by the time the media got it, people just heard, Ron Paul, bank fraud?

01:03:20.000 Ron Paul, coins? 0.93

01:03:22.000 Ron Paul, prostitutes? 1.00

01:03:24.000 Ron Paul, white supremacist? 1.00

01:03:26.000 Again, another example of the type of dirty tricks they play. 0.92

01:03:30.000 So just be ready for more, and try to educate people around you about that if they bring it up to you.

01:03:36.000 You can give them the mainstream articles.

01:03:38.000 Because the mainstream had to admit a few days ago that, okay, the media brought the pimp.

01:03:44.000 We'll be right back to get into Big Brother and a lot more.

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01:06:56.000 All right.

01:07:15.000 The Associated Press is reporting that a high-level government minister in Greece has stepped down.

01:07:25.000 In fact, if you go to PrisonPlanet.com in the Police States section at the top, it's the fifth story down, and they're stepping down because the police in Greece are illegally using the traffic cameras to spy on the general public and watch demonstrations and protests and track the population.

01:07:43.000 In China, several months ago, major cities had to remove cameras in public places because, again, China says, you're not allowed to criticize the Communist Party, you're not allowed to do that, and we'll arrest you and make you spend years in a gulag, in a forced labor camp, either in a factory.

01:08:01.000 They have millions in their factories and millions on their rice farms and other plantations.

01:08:06.000 We have photos of that and news articles on that in Endgame.

01:08:10.000 But they at least kind of play fair.

01:08:12.000 It's a horrible system.

01:08:13.000 I'm not defending it.

01:08:14.000 But the public looked at the code and said, but you're not allowed to surveil us without having probable cause, without having a reason to investigate us.

01:08:25.000 And so, all over China, they have been removing cameras in parks and public places because the public says, we don't like being surveilled.

01:08:33.000 So, there's big demonstrations, government ministers resigning over spying with the traffic cameras in Greece.

01:08:42.000 Also in Russia, I've seen reports of all places, a horrible police state.

01:08:47.000 I mean, that's how big a deal it is.

01:08:49.000 People know that's Big Brother.

01:08:51.000 Now, compare that to the US, where for at least a decade, we've seen news reports of not just cameras in the school classrooms, but cameras not just in the bathrooms, but in the bathroom stalls.

01:09:02.000 Just type into Google, uh, cameras in school bathrooms, and you'll get hundreds of reports.

01:09:08.000 And then, remember the case that was in Tennessee about four years ago, that was the worst I'd ever seen, where the visiting basketball, girls basketball team in eighth grade, went into the showers at the field house after the game.

01:09:23.000 And there was cameras in the showers, and the girls did what was normal. 0.99

01:09:27.000 They threw their clothes on, ran out screaming, there was parents throwing fits, police had to be called.

01:09:33.000 And I'll never forget, this was all over the Tennessee papers, The principal saying, what's the big deal?

01:09:43.000 There could be illegal stuff going on in the showers.

01:09:45.000 We have to have video cameras hooked into there.

01:09:47.000 And then it turned out they were hooked into the police department, then it turned out that they did a police investigation of themselves, and that they had had file swapping as far away as North Carolina.

01:09:58.000 Go look it up.

01:10:01.000 And then now you see the reports from Sacramento, California to New York, New York, where they have, it's all over the country, I see these every couple days now, where the cameras in the classrooms, in the bathrooms, in the halls, in the lunchrooms are wired live into the police department and they're getting federal and state and sometimes private corporate grants to do this.

01:10:27.000 And then you add to that that Google announced last year, people couldn't believe it, and they went to our story on Prison Planet and found the links to Google's press release.

01:10:35.000 Google bragged and their stock went up and said, yeah, we've developed two different software packages, the one we're implementing out of Tel Aviv.

01:10:43.000 Israel, developed by a research project we funded there, where the microphone in the, which is in almost all new computers, many of the older computers, will listen for key words, listen to a dog barking, and you'll have dog food ads flash up on your screen, it'll listen to what you're watching on television, and then tailor packaging around that, and it was just no big deal!

01:11:06.000 I remember telling you more than ten years ago, because an engineer at Time Warner here locally told me, He said, Alex, you say you've got cable.

01:11:15.000 Have you noticed the new Scientific Atlantic cable boxes have a microphone on them, but there's no application to use them at this time?

01:11:21.000 And I said, yeah.

01:11:22.000 And he said, well, that's two-way.

01:11:24.000 And then three Super Bowls ago, Chicago Tribune.

01:11:28.000 I'm just giving you some background first.

01:11:30.000 Three Super Bowls ago, or was it four?

01:11:34.000 It'll be four, I guess, in a couple months.

01:11:36.000 How time flies.

01:11:38.000 Remember when Janet Jackson had the on-purpose, by design, I guess you'd call it false flag wardrobe malfunction? 0.99

01:11:46.000 You can clearly see her just pull it out. 0.94

01:11:49.000 And she even had it, you know, festooned with decorations.

01:11:53.000 With, I guess it was Timberlake or somebody she was dancing around with.

01:11:56.000 And T-Vobe, the DVR system, one of the many DVR systems, the most popular, that lets you pause, rewind, you know, fast forward, save your favorite programs.

01:12:05.000 Tebow announced, hey, 2.3 million record replays that day of that.

01:12:16.000 And the Chicago Tribune rightly went, well, wait a minute.

01:12:19.000 How do you know how many people rewound and replayed her breasts coming out? 0.99

01:12:27.000 And they went, oh, yeah, well, don't worry.

01:12:29.000 We just have computers that analyze the data you're viewing habits.

01:12:34.000 You see, Nielsen asks you and pays you hundreds of dollars a year, Nielsen ratings, to stick a box on your television to then monitor what you watch and then they sell that data.

01:12:48.000 But Time Warner and of course TiVo and a hundred plus other companies don't.

01:12:55.000 And it's the same thing.

01:12:56.000 If somebody came to your house and knocked on your door And said, I'd like to pay you $100 to put cameras and microphones up in your house and watch and listen to you, everything you do, just to, for marketing data.

01:13:11.000 But don't worry, people won't be watching you.

01:13:12.000 Computers will be recording it and collating the data for your basic psychological algorithm.

01:13:19.000 You would say, get off my front porch.

01:13:21.000 They'd say, $1,000.

01:13:21.000 You'd say, no.

01:13:25.000 Maybe some people are such warriors or exhibitionists, they would like it.

01:13:25.000 $2,000.

01:13:30.000 The point is most of us would say, no, no, no, a million dollars isn't enough.

01:13:35.000 But see, TiVo Google, all the rest of them, they don't ask.

01:13:40.000 They just do it.

01:13:41.000 And then I write articles about it.

01:13:43.000 Steve Watson writes articles about it.

01:13:45.000 Kurt Nemo writes articles about it.

01:13:47.000 Paul Watson writes articles about it.

01:13:49.000 And we're called crazy kooks because we can read the newspaper.

01:13:55.000 The Palm Beach Post, in fact I thought I had it here on the stack.

01:13:59.000 I looked during the break.

01:13:59.000 I don't.

01:14:00.000 Let me just launch another browser and pull that up.

01:14:05.000 I want to illustrate to people that we're not making this stuff up.

01:14:07.000 The Palm Beach Post reported that they're putting in cameras that watch with AI, artificial intelligence software, and it is artificially intelligent.

01:14:18.000 It acts and makes decisions on its own. 0.60

01:14:21.000 Kissing, holding hands, hugging, that is a prelude to sex on the beach, and they know how to sell to the public dirty sex is going on. 0.99

01:14:29.000 We've got to stop it. 0.99

01:14:30.000 Let me see.

01:14:31.000 Cameras on beach.

01:14:32.000 Cameras on beach.

01:14:37.000 This is how I found it the other day.

01:14:38.000 I heard it on the radio.

01:14:40.000 I just did it.

01:14:43.000 Cameras.

01:14:45.000 I didn't put a space in there.

01:14:47.000 I'm not good at this live on air.

01:14:48.000 I'm so fast when I'm not on air doing this.

01:14:51.000 That's why I never used to allow myself to have a computer in here because it would become a distraction.

01:14:54.000 Cameras on beach.

01:14:58.000 beachcamera.com That's another one.

01:15:01.000 Let me click News here.

01:15:03.000 I'm just doing this to illustrate that you can get this for yourself.

01:15:07.000 Here it is.

01:15:07.000 Palm Beach Post.

01:15:08.000 Patrols not cameras for beach surveillance.

01:15:11.000 And it says that the talking cameras are $5,500 a piece.

01:15:16.000 They're wired into the police station.

01:15:19.000 And they will watch what you do and then shout orders at you.

01:15:24.000 Now, this is the exact same thing that England, four years ago, put in a couple thousand in London.

01:15:30.000 Now, last time I checked, there were hundreds of thousands.

01:15:34.000 They've even got these in Sheffield, where Paul Watson lives, his brother Steve's in London.

01:15:39.000 And if you accidentally, a piece of paper falls out of your backpack, or papers are on the hood of your car, or blow out, I mean this happens to me every week, And this has even been in the news.

01:15:49.000 It starts shouting.

01:15:50.000 And it says, I'm taking photos of you with a digital driver's license and ID systems.

01:15:55.000 It has your face.

01:15:56.000 They will even shout and tell you that.

01:15:58.000 Now some of them are hooked into the software to know who you are.

01:16:01.000 Of course, they've also been malfunctioning in places.

01:16:04.000 Where did I see a malfunctioning?

01:16:05.000 It was in...

01:16:09.000 I remember it used to be photographic and it used to be perfect and I can't remember.

01:16:12.000 It's uh... Tampa!

01:16:13.000 Tampa!

01:16:15.000 Yeah, malfunctioning with the face scans and arresting and SWAT teaming.

01:16:18.000 Some guy's out eating at a corner cafe and it face scans him as a big criminal so they SWAT team him and it's the wrong guy.

01:16:25.000 Another guy is a construction worker working on the street in Tampa.

01:16:28.000 They got him.

01:16:29.000 But, side issue here.

01:16:32.000 See, I ought to just generalize here, but I want people to know I'm specifically going off articles and documents and news.

01:16:39.000 Okay, let me just read it here.

01:16:42.000 Patrols Not Cameras for Beach Surveillance.

01:16:47.000 This is Saturday, November 24th.

01:16:51.000 It says, the stories about Senator Larry Craig and Representative Bob Allen, if they have a reason to sell it to you, must really have gotten to someone in Martin County.

01:17:01.000 What else explains the nutty idea to put cameras on beaches to scare or catch people looking for sex?

01:17:08.000 And then it goes on to say, uh, consider the cost and consider what they want to do.

01:17:13.000 They say it's the equivalent of 30 sheriff's deputies, 20 firefighters in next year's budget.

01:17:19.000 Uh, but they say it doesn't matter that the new cameras shout orders at you and track and watch what you're doing.

01:17:25.000 You can go read it.

01:17:26.000 Patrol's not cameras for beach surveillance.

01:17:28.000 There's actually 515 articles on it.

01:17:33.000 Google will tell you how many there are that match that.

01:17:35.000 Just go read it for yourself.

01:17:35.000 515.

01:17:38.000 So, they're putting these in, and they're in Tampa, they're in Palm Beach...

01:17:48.000 And I've seen federal grants for them going back six, seven years ago in other parts of the country, but haven't heard about them being used yet.

01:17:55.000 It's like Texas.

01:17:56.000 Austin got an $844,000 a year grant consecutively for the next six years.

01:18:01.000 I didn't look to see if in 2004 it ended, to put up microphones, thousands of microphones per $844,000.

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01:25:54.000 Again, this is a story That is out of Popular Mechanics, which is the police state advertisement magazine.

01:26:02.000 But if you just type in plate reading cop cars, or plate reading cameras, you'll remember this first got in the news six years ago, headlined, Florida Town Runs Plates of All Who Enter.

01:26:16.000 I believe that's the exact headline, but that'll pull it up for you.

01:26:21.000 And I had already seen the federal grants in Indiana, Texas, Ohio, California, New York, Michigan, at that, even before that.

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01:26:50.000 Now, I have friends who've gotten in the system for no driver's license or for protesting and who, you know, are battling court cases and it's been in the news with other people I don't know, other states and here in Texas where you're driving down the road, folks, and the minute That you drive by a car, that's why they swing around and pull you over.

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01:27:51.000 There's a bunch of them, ALPR. 1.00

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01:27:56.000 The one I'm looking at is four.

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01:32:11.000 Well, my guest really needs no introduction.

01:32:15.000 She's a more modern feminist, you could say. 1.00

01:32:16.000 I agree with reports she's put out and analysis she's done about how destructive pornography is for both men and women, and her analysis fits with the scientific reports I've seen, which of course she covered, where This is what we have her on about today, but I'm saying she's very accomplished about how it doesn't turn men into these raving rapists like people thought it would 50 years ago.

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01:33:14.000 Naomi Wolf, thanks for coming on with us.

01:33:16.000 Thank you so much, Alex, for having me.

01:33:19.000 When did you start to wake up to the police state that's really accelerated its expansion under the Bush administration in the last seven years?

01:33:28.000 Yeah, well it was definitely not something I wanted to think about, but I have a friend who's the daughter of Holocaust survivors, and she kept insisting, when we talked about news events, that they did this in Germany, they did this in Germany, and I was sure that this was, you know, very extreme, irrational talk, but she finally forced me to sit down and start reading, and of course I discovered that she wasn't talking about National Socialist outcomes,

01:33:57.000 You know, 38, 39, 40.

01:33:59.000 She was talking about 1930, 31, 32, when Germany was a parliamentary democracy.

01:34:05.000 Yes, a fragile one.

01:34:06.000 The Weimar Republic.

01:34:08.000 Exactly.

01:34:08.000 But a small group of people began, very systematically, to use the law and dismantle the Constitution and put pressure on citizens to subvert the law.

01:34:19.000 And that opened the door for everything to follow.

01:34:21.000 And then when I started reading this, I saw that not only Were tactics and strategies being reproduced exactly right now by the Bush administration, but that actual soundbites and language and images and scenarios and sort of film moments are being reproduced.

01:34:38.000 And then to summarize quickly, I looked at other times and places where a would-be dictator, whether on the left or the right, wanted to close down a democracy or crush a pro-democracy movement.

01:34:52.000 And I looked at Italy in the 20s, I mentioned Germany in the 30s, Russia in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, China's crackdown on the democracy movement in the 80s, Pinochet's coup in Chile in 1973, and what I saw, Alex, was that there is a blueprint!

01:35:07.000 I mean, that everybody who wants to close down a democracy does the exact ten things, the ten classic steps, and that unfortunately, I'm sorry to say we're seeing each of these 10 steps being put in place in the United States today.

01:35:21.000 And you pointed out, and I've interviewed actual special forces colonels, commanders from Vietnam and other places where this has been carried out, and people who are involved in death squads in Latin America, that our own government, not just the School of Americas for Latin America, and Fort Benning, Georgia, but other military bases and other spy schools and other officer training schools for foreign cadets are actually training the world.

01:35:44.000 The U.S. for the last 50 years has been covertly, but now it's accelerating, training the world how to carry out these very policies, this very blueprint.

01:35:53.000 Yeah, it's very, very distressing, especially if you're a patriot.

01:35:58.000 And, you know, we can live in this bubble, as I did until I was, you know, 43 and started researching this, where you really think, you know, we are a force for good in the world, and we should be, and often we are.

01:36:09.000 But what you've just said is horrifically true.

01:36:11.000 I'm sorry to say that the great dictators, you know, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, developed this A practice that is so effective, and then what happened was petty dictators in the second half of the 20th century and up until the present learn it, study it, transmit it, and unfortunately you're 100% right. 0.73

01:36:28.000 The School for the Americas, under our auspices, teaches would-be dictators, especially in Latin American countries, how to set up their own death squads, suppress dissent in their own countries, crack down, round up journalists in their own countries.

01:36:42.000 the same blueprint, the same ten steps.

01:36:43.000 Now, now, now, going back.

01:36:45.000 Sorry, I was just going to say, it's kind of this really incredible lesson that since we turned a blind eye as citizens to how we were exporting this all over the world, paradoxically, we don't recognize, because we're not in practice, we don't recognize these blinking red warning lights because we're not in practice, we don't recognize these blinking red warning lights happening right now at home that democracy activists all over the And they're going, oh my god, no, you know, don't let the executive have more power to declare martial law.

01:37:13.000 Don't let the executive have more power to round up his political opponents and put them in solitary confinement for three years.

01:37:20.000 Now, going back to the roots of this with Hitler, and he was of course expanding on other systems of control, going back to the Romans, he adopted a lot of the, and I've read Heinz Hobel's Word of the Dead said, a lot of the Jesuits' systems for controlling countries, and so Hitler was building on a lot of sciences that had been developed before he came along, but I'm sure you know this, and I haven't finished your book yet, and I'm wondering if it's in there, that Prescott Bush was actually the head Nazi agent in the U.S., the McCormick-Dickstein committees exposed this,

01:37:49.000 The guy that was about to be the Marine Corps Commandant, Brigadier General Smedley Butler, they tried to hire him to overthrow the government and set up a fascist dictatorship.

01:37:57.000 So to see Bush even calling it homeland security, it was fatherland security there, setting up a homeland security, which is the Gestapo slash SS, I mean they're really going down the line. 0.51

01:38:07.000 And when you learn, and I'm asking did you know this, that the Bush's actually got their first seed money from Fritz Thiessen, the man who bankrolled Hitler. 0.56

01:38:16.000 Well, I have to say, as you're speaking, you know, I'm very rarely at a loss for words, Alex, but I'm so kind of overwhelmed with emotion from what you just said, because you're the first mainstream talker to say this truth, which is, you know, historically 100% accurate and profoundly important for people to understand.

01:38:43.000 There was an attempted coup.

01:38:44.000 Are you there?

01:38:46.000 Yes, I'm here, Naomi.

01:38:47.000 Okay.

01:38:47.000 There was, as you just said very bravely to thousands of listeners, there was a scheme in the 30s, and Prescott Bush was one of the leaders of this scheme, industrialist, who admired fascism and who thought it was a good idea to have a coup in the United States along the lines of the coup that they saw taking place so profitably for corporations in Italy and in Germany.

01:39:14.000 A hundred percent right that Smedley Butler, and actually I have a good friend who's reporting this out and has access to the original document, so he's telling me about Smedley Butler even as you're speaking, so it's like this, you know, truth is just like coming out all over the place.

01:39:28.000 Smedley Butler had gone along with violent regime change much of his career, but he was approached by these conspirators, including Prescott Bush, and he outed them, and he testified to Congress that these people were planning a coup in the United States.

01:39:43.000 It's in the congressional record.

01:39:45.000 And you are 100% right that Prescott Bush was in alliance with Thyssen, the great industrialist, the Nazi industrialist, and made millions and millions of dollars, basically the Bush family fortune.

01:39:57.000 And then what is amazing to me and resonant to me is that when the Nuremberg trials finally were put in place and these Nazi industrialists, some of whom had colluded with Americans, including, by the way, IBM.

01:40:10.000 were about to be brought to trial and sent to prison, there was a moment at which they were going to look into turning the spotlight on their American partners.

01:40:20.000 And that's why when I look at the laws that the Bush White House has drafted, like the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which are so consciously designed to protect Bush and his co-conspirators from being indicted for war crimes, just as the Nuremberg conspirators were indicted for war crimes, That seems to me to resonate from the family history.

01:40:40.000 The family history is you can make so much money, you know, uniting corporate interests with a fascist state that violently represses people.

01:40:49.000 And that's why when I saw, you know, the recycling of so much Nazi language, Nazi tactics, Nazi strategies, Nazi imagery in the Bush White House, and then finally belatedly people brought to me this history of the Prescott Bush attempt to coup and Smedley Butler's revelations.

01:41:06.000 It just gave me absolute chills.

01:41:07.000 It gives me chills to hear you say it out loud.

01:41:10.000 Is this the first time you've spoken about it?

01:41:14.000 I have I've sort of skirted the issue as I've been waiting to get enough research that is sound to have a public conversation about it.

01:41:27.000 You have very bravely sort of dragged the subject out into a public conversation.

01:41:31.000 I'm now confident enough of the data to confirm exactly what you're saying.

01:41:34.000 Well, I mean, just so you know, I've been covering this ever since I got on air 13 years ago, and I've had a lot of historians on who really first codified this and put this together, but just Just so you know, if you go to Google Video, no need to buy the DVD from InfoWars.com.

01:41:53.000 That would be nice.

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01:41:55.000 It's nice to have the high quality digital DVD.

01:41:58.000 If you go to Google and type Marshall Law in and click Video Naomi, I made a three hour film about this.

01:42:05.000 The last hour is about it.

01:42:07.000 Yeah, and so no need to watch the first two hours, it's about other things.

01:42:11.000 But you can fast forward to the last hour, and we have, but since we brought this out, the London Guardian's reported, the BBC has reported, And BBC Radio and TV, so it's now... You're the guy who brought it out that the BBC picked it up from?

01:42:26.000 Well, no, no, let me give credit where credit's due.

01:42:26.000 That's amazing!

01:42:30.000 Webster Tarpley, I already read this and talked about it, but Tarpley, about 12 years ago, did the main research, and then Mr. Buchanan, who I interviewed for the film with John Buchanan, he actually went to verify, and we went with him, to the National Archives.

01:42:48.000 Oh my God!

01:42:50.000 And since then we've gotten the actual clips of newsreel 18mm footage from the McCormick-Dickstein committee.

01:43:01.000 No!

01:43:01.000 You're kidding!

01:43:03.000 Oh my God, I've got to see this material.

01:43:05.000 It's dangerous.

01:43:07.000 We've got to bring this out.

01:43:08.000 I've got a friend who is standing by to make a viral film about this to get the word out to Americans because it's one thing to put the pieces together Theoretically, as I've done in my book, but when you realize that there is a family history, and again, you can't point fingers at a grandson or a great-grandson and say, you know, the pain of the ancestors on the grandson, but it just... But now he's doing it!

01:43:31.000 It's kind of like saying... Now he's doing it!

01:43:33.000 That's right!

01:43:34.000 And it adds a dimensionality of plausibility to something that is, until you have this kind of personal history confirmation, is circumstantial evidence.

01:43:45.000 Oh my gosh.

01:43:46.000 Now, I want to, for your research, London Guardian, and then you can expand out from there to BBC, and it was also picked up by three U.S.

01:43:58.000 newspapers, but they're local dailies, so it's all been vetted out.

01:44:06.000 Prescott Bush was the main bag man on the board of directors of Fritz Thiessen's Union Carbide and Brown Brother Harriman.

01:44:15.000 And then after the war, he was the bag man.

01:44:17.000 And then it gets into Texas history and even family that I talked to who didn't know what they were seeing in Midland after World War II, but was telling me about this when I was a little kid.

01:44:28.000 And now all this comes out about how there were all these Nazis everywhere.

01:44:32.000 And it just, it just... You know, Alex, you're kidding me.

01:44:35.000 Can we talk afterwards and follow up more about this?

01:44:38.000 Absolutely.

01:44:39.000 I get off at about 3 Eastern.

01:44:41.000 I don't know what time zone you're in.

01:44:43.000 This is really important because, truly, what is so disturbing about the research that I found Yeah, thank you.

01:44:50.000 breaststrokes and that's bad enough but what is really disturbing are these my new fingerprints like you look at you know they unloaded coffins at night in Germany we unload coffins at night they pioneered the embedding of reporters we pioneering the embedding stop right there let's let's go through let's go through the ten steps while we have time go ahead you got the floor yeah thank you so the first I'm sorry I'm just like it's still reeling from what you're on Well, I understand, yeah.

01:45:17.000 It's big.

01:45:17.000 I mean, also, I'm not putting these pieces together.

01:45:20.000 I want to be super clear about this, but I just got off an interview where, for the first time, I also said in public, you know, that citizens should be able to ask any questions they want about 9-11, and that it's not a good sign in a democracy when there are some questions that are off-limits.

01:45:37.000 And I made it super clear that I'm not drawing any kind of conclusions, but that Um, you know, in a strong democracy, if citizens call for more investigation of a major crime, there's more investigation.

01:45:48.000 Well, did you know that Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly have said that Ron Paul supporters are working for Al Qaeda?

01:45:54.000 And Glenn Beck called for the military to be used against citizens last week?

01:45:58.000 Oh my God.

01:45:59.000 No, I did not.

01:46:00.000 You can actually watch the video.

01:46:01.000 Yeah, it's on...

01:46:03.000 Now Ron Paul supports it because they're for the Constitution?

01:46:03.000 Why?

01:46:07.000 They're calling us domestic enemies.

01:46:09.000 I had the Congress follow on last week about it, and we can even play the clips, but we're running out of time.

01:46:14.000 But yes, they're now saying this.

01:46:17.000 That's really scary, and they called out the military against them?

01:46:20.000 Well, they said, we need to consider using the military, and then if you read, yes, against citizens, and then if you read, saying we're a domestic threat, and then if you read the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, it says, it funds martial law for domestic insurrection by the citizenry, and then in PDD 51, Bush says that he's above continuity of government, not Congress.

01:46:42.000 Yes, that's right.

01:46:43.000 Well, that is super scary because I know that they're training FBI agents right now to identify people who are critical of the administration as terrorists, which is something right out of the Stalinist era.

01:46:53.000 Playbook, and in fact Norman Podhortz's new book identifies people like me and you, obviously, as quote-unquote domestic insurgents.

01:47:00.000 And, you know, in a fascist shift, what I call a fascist shift, that's step eight and nine, which is to start identifying critics of the regime, or critics of the cadre in power.

01:47:09.000 But here's the good news, Naomi.

01:47:11.000 Here's the good news.

01:47:11.000 Yes, sir.

01:47:13.000 Hitler did it, it was popular. 1.00

01:47:14.000 They're doing it and totally blowing their cover.

01:47:17.000 That, I think, is the good news.

01:47:19.000 That is good news, but until there's a revolution, like starting yesterday, of American patriots across the political spectrum to investigate, identify these crimes, prosecute, and put these people in jail, because impeachment, the historical record shows, is not safe enough for people who are this kind of violent.

01:47:36.000 No, no, this is life and death.

01:47:36.000 I agree.

01:47:38.000 Invoke the terrifying internal or external enemy.

01:47:41.000 And 9-11, let's go through them.

01:47:44.000 All would-be dictators, left or right, invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy, often a real one that they will hype and manipulate.

01:47:51.000 The second thing they always do is create a secret prison system that is outside the rule of law, by secret I mean unaccountable, where torture takes place and they often create military commissions.

01:48:01.000 There's always a blurring of the line where they start by torturing people seen as at the margins of society and then inevitably move into directing state abuse against people at the heart of civil society, journalists, editors, opposition leaders, outspoken clergy, and labor leaders.

01:48:16.000 At that point, people start to self-censor.

01:48:18.000 And that's why the enemy combatant thing scares me to death.

01:48:20.000 The president can say, Naomi Wolf, you're an enemy combatant.

01:48:24.000 Joe Blow, you're an enemy combatant.

01:48:26.000 And innocent American citizens, once he says this, can be put in a 10-by-12-foot cell in a Navy brig and kept there in isolation for three years.

01:48:33.000 And they're now trying to introduce that idea as a White House talking point we got that anti-war libertarians, liberals are aiding terrorists and should be banned.

01:48:45.000 Lovely.

01:48:46.000 I mean, this is just predictable.

01:48:47.000 The blueprint is predictable.

01:48:48.000 You could tell six months ago that this was ahead, and what's interesting to me, also historically predictable, is as people start to wake up, The regime is starting to ramp down, because it is a race against time.

01:49:00.000 Like, who's going to win?

01:49:01.000 Are we going to wake up in time and put them in prison, or are they going to get us, you know, and push us past the point of no return, which is very quick.

01:49:08.000 Boy, you are certainly on the same page as I am.

01:49:10.000 Oh my goodness.

01:49:11.000 Yeah.

01:49:12.000 Alright, well let's hope we win.

01:49:14.000 The third thing they always do is create a paramilitary force that is not answerable to the citizens.

01:49:19.000 Blackwater.

01:49:20.000 Blackwater, exactly, and they are operating In the United States right now, there are hand-selected torturers and murderers from regimes like Chile, Pinochet's guys, El Salvador, Nigeria, where they torture their own citizens, and they're opening training grounds in Illinois.

01:49:38.000 Naomi, we'll stay there.

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01:53:28.000 Well, I mean, she's an amazing lady and just very well versed in so many subjects. 0.97

01:53:32.000 We're going to have her for five minutes into the next hour. 0.98

01:53:34.000 It's clear I'm going to have to get her back up for a full hour if she'll grace us with that much time in the near future. 0.96

01:53:40.000 Naomi, continuing with the steps.

01:53:43.000 Sure.

01:53:44.000 So paramilitary forced outside the rule of law Blackwater.

01:53:47.000 They can show up tomorrow outside our doors to crack down on civil society with, as you mentioned, the Defense Authorization Act of 2007, which gives the President the power to declare a public emergency, federalize the National Guard over the objections of governors.

01:54:02.000 And it says for insurrection.

01:54:04.000 It says for the American people.

01:54:07.000 Yep.

01:54:08.000 Yeah, he can do that tomorrow because he says so.

01:54:10.000 The fourth thing you need to close down an open society is to direct a surveillance apparatus at ordinary citizens.

01:54:18.000 And by the way, there's a huge profit incentive, because in the wake of the Cold War, the third of the economy that was making Cold War weapons, like Boeing and Raytheon, needed to, you know, they were looking at declining market share, unless they could find a new enemy.

01:54:30.000 That's right.

01:54:31.000 First they had the Soviets, now they have the Arabs, now it's going to be us. 0.93

01:54:35.000 Rand and others have said this, and then it integrates it, just like many of your new student packages that the students get.

01:54:44.000 Scholarships are for this whole apparatus.

01:54:48.000 Exactly, and they've got, so now there's billions of profits to be made if we hype a global enemy, if we turn the quote-unquote war on terror into something much bigger than it really is.

01:54:59.000 And if we turn the enemy into us, because then they're creating the surveillance and security technologies now, they have lobbyists who sit down with Homeland Security and write the laws and the policies.

01:55:09.000 So, you know, that's why when our organization tried, the American Freedom Campaign, tried to get the presidential candidates to stand up for the Constitution, The people who are not frontrunners on the left did so right away, but the frontrunners hesitated, and only Ron Paul has pledged it on the right.

01:55:26.000 Because it is now expensive to stand up for the rights of American citizens, if you're a frontrunner, because there are billions to be made for major donors who are the telecommunications and the surveillance and security technologies industries.

01:55:26.000 Why is that?

01:55:41.000 And by the way, this only accelerates once you go into this paradigm of the predatory economy, it only gets bigger.

01:55:47.000 Yeah, that's really scary.

01:55:48.000 I mean, what we saw the model in Italy and Germany, someone just pointed out in their right, that now there are technologies that can amplify control and terror of civilians massively or that can be used to liberate civilians.

01:56:03.000 Have you heard they're now putting in cameras all over, first in England, that shout orders at you and they have police cars that scan everyone's plates?

01:56:10.000 Oh my lord.

01:56:11.000 I knew about the scanning of the plates.

01:56:12.000 I did know about the shouting orders.

01:56:14.000 That's very disturbing.

01:56:15.000 Number five, because I know you want me to get through these quickly if I can.

01:56:15.000 Yes.

01:56:19.000 Go ahead.

01:56:19.000 Infiltrate citizens' groups.

01:56:22.000 Oh, by the way, the surveillance, the TSA watch list and the no-fly list started out 45,000 U.S.

01:56:27.000 citizens.

01:56:28.000 I'm one of them.

01:56:29.000 Many critics of the administration are on the watch list, but it's gone up to 775,000 American citizens.

01:56:33.000 175,000 American citizens 20,000 names added every month and these are people who are environmental activists anti-war activists Decorated war heroes who are critical of the Iraq war Unbelievable!

01:56:48.000 Unbelievable!

01:56:48.000 The issue with this, Alex, is that people come up to me in tears after I speak about this because they wrote a letter to their local newspaper critical of Bush, their kids get put on a watch list.

01:57:00.000 Now again, folks, if we give in, and this is admitted, we always knew they had lists.

01:57:05.000 Now they're public.

01:57:06.000 This is the intimidation.

01:57:07.000 If we give in, they win.

01:57:10.000 The only problem is they put so many people on it now, they're letting you fly most of the time, so they put too many on it.

01:57:16.000 Stay there, Naomi Wolf.

01:57:17.000 Oh, I wish we had you longer.

01:57:18.000 Five more minutes after this 60-second break.

01:57:21.000 We'll get into the other four points.

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01:58:03.000 Well, we're clearly going to get her back up for a full hour in the next few weeks. 1.00

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01:58:19.000 She's learned a lot of stuff I didn't know.

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01:58:32.000 And Naomi, I'm going to send you a lot of these documents and news articles and video clips for yourself today so you can Yes, sir.

01:58:39.000 Well, first of all, this is just something I want to say about democracy.

01:58:42.000 send you all the martial law info but it looks like you already know more than I do on that uh Naomi continue with the other four steps yes sir well first of all I'm very great I mean this is just something I want to say about democracy in a living democracy this is exactly what should be happening citizens bring to one another the information they need to put all the pieces together and don't just trust the elites or trust the regime in power to you know spoon feed them the information um Okay, so then infiltrate and harass citizens groups.

01:59:09.000 The ACLU has many lawsuits noting that people are doing that right now.

01:59:13.000 You know, every time I speak or you speak, they're likely to be state infiltrators, sort of dressed like audience members, basically taping everything you're saying and ready to get you in trouble if they can.

01:59:24.000 The seventh step is to target key individuals.

01:59:26.000 Now, this is when you see people like Dan Rather going down because of White House pressure on his employer when he criticizes Bush, when you see Bill Marley lose his job, when you see Valerie Plame get outed, smearing, punitive retributions against people like Jessica Rakoff, a senior lawyer at the Justice Department who said, don't torture John Walker Lynde.

01:59:47.000 She found that she was referred to the Bar Association.

01:59:49.000 You're seeing people in Alabama put in prison.

01:59:51.000 They ratchet up the targeting of key individuals.

01:59:54.000 Then you get restricting the press.

01:59:57.000 You see things like Greg Palast, the author, being investigated by Homeland Security.

02:00:01.000 Oh, they put out an arrest warrant!

02:00:03.000 They put out an arrest warrant until ABC got on it.

02:00:06.000 They were trying to arrest... Oh yeah, whenever he went and filmed the camps down in Louisiana.

02:00:11.000 Oh yeah, that was in the news.

02:00:12.000 Homeland Security said he had exposed key infrastructure until the press got on it and they dropped it.

02:00:17.000 Right.

02:00:18.000 Well, that's super scary because, you know, at this point, you know, one or two or three There can be an outcry, but when the state starts to issue arrests for journalists, and you hear of 30 or 40 or 50, that's one of those tipping points where it's very difficult to push back.

02:00:34.000 What I'm trying to stress is that democracy doesn't close down overnight.

02:00:39.000 It closes down in a series of these tipping points.

02:00:41.000 So for me personally, when I read, and this is step number eight, recast criticism of espionage and dissent as treason, Bill Keller, the executive editor of the New York Times, exposed the swift banking story, which showed that the government was spying on our emails and on our phone conversations illegally.

02:00:59.000 And so there was this White House drumbeat, treason, treason, treason, prosecuted under the Espionage Act, Well, the penalty for treason is execution.

02:01:08.000 And I was reading Goebbels when I read this and I got, again, chills because the publisher of Investia in the thirties was charged with treason by Stalin in the third Moscow show trial and was executed for treason.

02:01:21.000 And the last two, the last two, we've got one minute.

02:01:23.000 Okay, okay.

02:01:24.000 The last two are that you, okay, we can't espionage, restrict the press.

02:01:32.000 You subvert the rule of law and you make it easier to declare martial law.

02:01:35.000 So that's where you get things like signing statements.

02:01:37.000 You know, the White House basically saying, I don't care that you're Congress.

02:01:40.000 I don't care there are two other branches of government.

02:01:42.000 And you get things like the Defense Authorization Act, which we've discussed, that make it easier to declare martial law.

02:01:47.000 You try to purge the civil service, as Goebbels did in 1933.

02:01:50.000 And Naomi, in closing, and if you can hold over, that's fine.

02:01:56.000 If you can't, I know you probably got to go.

02:01:58.000 The problem is, is that we're seeing the Democrats go along with this, too.

02:02:02.000 And so this system's in place, even if Bush leaves office.

02:02:05.000 How do you respond to that?

02:02:07.000 Well, it's terrifying and this is what we need to do.

02:02:10.000 We can't leave it to the Democrats and we can't leave it to Republicans in power.

02:02:14.000 It's up to us.

02:02:15.000 History shows it takes a mass uprising of citizens across the political spectrum to rise up.

02:02:21.000 You go to AmericanFreedomCampaign.com on the right, on the left, American Freedom Agenda.

02:02:26.000 Naomi, stay there. 0.98

02:02:27.000 Stay there.

02:02:27.000 We got a break.

02:02:28.000 A new world order.

02:02:28.000 Hold on.

02:02:28.000 It is a big idea.

02:02:29.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.

02:02:31.000 We have to drive through, but critically, we have to call for hearings, investigate, appoint a special prosecutor.

02:02:38.000 There are three levels of crime that have been...

02:02:39.000 Naomi, stay there. 0.98

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02:02:54.000 Couldn't their objective be world domination?

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02:05:50.000 Well, we just had Naomi Wolf we just had Naomi Wolf on. 1.00

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02:06:19.000 But I remember hearing John Taylor Gatto years ago on the radio, and then last week I heard him again, and I just thought, why not get John Taylor Gatto on the show with us?

02:06:30.000 And because I was listening to him, and I have guests on that basically have discovered the same things I've discovered, but even more.

02:06:40.000 Because there's so much going on that not one individual of us can be experts, complete experts, on every facet.

02:06:47.000 I mean, I've interviewed Charlotte Isserby, who was number two at the Department of Education under Reagan.

02:06:51.000 Her dad was Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove.

02:06:54.000 She was in the Foreign Service.

02:06:55.000 They let her into the upper echelon and said, we're here to train people how to not be able to think and control them.

02:07:02.000 And she'd published a book the size of a phone book full of all the documents, how they're doing it.

02:07:06.000 And I've interviewed 30, 40, 50 other experts in education.

02:07:09.000 This is a fact.

02:07:11.000 This is how they're operating.

02:07:13.000 This is what they're doing.

02:07:15.000 But my point is, John Taylor Gatto, when I was listening to him, he was bringing up all these things I knew, but then adding things I hadn't discovered.

02:07:22.000 And I spot-checked a few things he said, and they checked out.

02:07:26.000 And that's an example of how deep all of this is.

02:07:29.000 I mean, he's just done an amazing, amazing job with the secret history of education.

02:07:36.000 In this country, where it came from, how it developed, and it's the same thing.

02:07:40.000 And I'm not into credit, just like you heard me tell Naomi Wolf earlier, but people out there in internet land make somewhat of an issue over this.

02:07:48.000 Well, Alex, you got your information about how the elite want to set up world government to exterminate 80% of us from such and such.

02:07:56.000 No, I got it from the Globalist Stone documents, and I've been talking about it for 13 years, but certainly there were those before me that did get all this, and I wanted to make the point on air, that doesn't matter.

02:08:05.000 It's about the info.

02:08:07.000 That's why I tell listeners and other talk show hosts, other people that are obsessed with this, to just take my info and take my name off of it and say, you did it, if that's what's important to you.

02:08:17.000 I'm here to give credit, and this is just kind of a little side issue, but I don't care.

02:08:24.000 I want to give credit where credit's due, but for me it doesn't matter.

02:08:27.000 It's about spreading the info.

02:08:28.000 We need to spend more time working on spreading the info instead of getting into, you know, who was the first to discover it.

02:08:38.000 That doesn't matter.

02:08:40.000 I mean, I am the father of the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:08:42.000 I'm the person that talked about it two months before it happened.

02:08:44.000 I'm the person that warned everybody.

02:08:45.000 I'm the guy that made films about government-sponsored terror.

02:08:48.000 I did that.

02:08:50.000 Heavy is the crown.

02:08:51.000 I mean, you know, the watch list, the takedown orders, all this stuff.

02:08:56.000 I don't frankly like it.

02:08:58.000 I want to get all of you moving and exposing it so we can save this country, just like Naomi Wolf was just saying.

02:09:03.000 This is life and death.

02:09:04.000 That's the point I'm making.

02:09:05.000 This isn't a game.

02:09:06.000 This isn't a joke.

02:09:08.000 This isn't tiddlywinks we're playing.

02:09:10.000 We need to get focused as a movement, as the American people, because the COINTELPRO operators try to get us all fighting and arguing over who's got all the answers, or who said it first, or who's right or who's wrong, or which supposed group runs it all.

02:09:24.000 The point is, we know there's a global government.

02:09:26.000 We know tyrants are running it. 1.00

02:09:27.000 We know they're setting up a police state.

02:09:29.000 We gotta shut that down.

02:09:32.000 Now, you can go to InfoWars.com and go to his website.

02:09:35.000 It's John Taylor Gatto.

02:09:42.000 John Taylor Gatto.

02:09:43.000 Gatto's G-A-T-T-O.

02:09:44.000 JohnTaylorGatto.com.

02:09:47.000 And he's just an amazing Individuals made documentary films, written books, done so much more and we're going to have to get him back up again sometime because 48 minutes is not enough time.

02:09:57.000 And I appreciate him coming on with us today.

02:10:00.000 Sir, I'm really honored to have you on.

02:10:03.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:10:04.000 It's a pleasure to be with you in Austin, which has become one of my favorite towns in the world.

02:10:10.000 I have a lot of friends there, and I promise not to mention any of their names.

02:10:15.000 It doesn't matter.

02:10:16.000 Listen, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you woke up to this, your life, and then just get right into the history, how they took over education, why they did it, their own words, their own documents, the sources.

02:10:29.000 Sure, well I grew up in Western Pennsylvania during the Second World War.

02:10:34.000 It was a town not too far from Pittsburgh and it was full of coal miners and steel workers and there was a whole lot of value placed on simple truth and thinking for yourself.

02:10:50.000 We all went to school but nobody, I mean nobody, considered that school was going to be very important.

02:10:58.000 You know, as I passed through two Ivy League colleges, I bought the whole program that somehow or other the people who acquire diplomas, and especially from famous schools, are set to rule the world.

02:11:16.000 So I was an advertising copywriter, and in advertising there's a lot of turnover, so often you're in between jobs.

02:11:28.000 In between jobs, my roommate had a school teacher's license, and he said, you gotta be crazy to do that.

02:11:36.000 He did it for one day, threw his license in the drawer, and went off to be a waiter at the Waldorf Astorium, was soon making a couple thousand dollars a week.

02:11:46.000 This is 30 years ago, 40 years ago.

02:11:49.000 So, in between ad jobs, I saw that license, and I said, I'll teach for a couple of days.

02:11:55.000 Anybody can do this.

02:11:58.000 Called in as my roommate.

02:11:59.000 He didn't care and I started to substitute teach.

02:12:05.000 And Alex, I ran into the strangest resistance at different schools, not on the part of students, but on the part of the administration to allow the teaching to be efficient.

02:12:21.000 Let me just give you one example of that and you'll see.

02:12:25.000 Like everyone in Texas, and I was in the Army in Texas a long time ago, I speak a few hundred words of Spanish.

02:12:33.000 So they gave me a Spanish class to substitute in.

02:12:38.000 I asked the kids if they knew how to tell time.

02:12:40.000 They all said no.

02:12:41.000 And I said, hey, it's so easy.

02:12:44.000 In 15 minutes, you all know how to tell time in Spanish.

02:12:47.000 That's basically about all I could do.

02:12:50.000 So I go through telling time, and everybody can tell time at the end of the hour.

02:12:55.000 By the third time I did this, because the sub has, you know, the principal came in, poured me into the hall, screamed at me that I had destroyed the entire curriculum for the month of June.

02:13:09.000 She would never be able to explain it to the teacher who was out sick, but I would never be hired again at that school.

02:13:17.000 I really was bewildered that someone would think that Telling Time in Spanish was the whole So, this happened in a different way at another school.

02:13:28.000 I won't go through the details.

02:13:29.000 And so you started searching to find out the roots of this.

02:13:31.000 Let's get into the history.

02:13:33.000 Yeah.

02:13:34.000 But I knew that this person wasn't an evil person.

02:13:40.000 She just knew, you know, what side her bread was being buttered on.

02:13:44.000 It was compartmentalization. 1.00

02:13:46.000 Yeah, so as I taught through the years, I told my wife, I'm going to stay in this business just to see how far I can push these kids who are supposed to be stupid. 0.98

02:13:59.000 And as soon as I found the limits, you know, I'll go back to advertising and make us a fortune. 0.93

02:14:05.000 But after 30 years, I never found how far I could push them.

02:14:10.000 The truth is, I went to Cornell and Columbia University and have degrees.

02:14:16.000 And I began to teach on the level of graduate Ivy League college and these 13-year-old Harlem kids.

02:14:23.000 I mean, there was a little bit of problem with the idiom, you know, and I'm much older than them, but I found that once they caught on that there was actually going to be something real going on in the class, They didn't have too much trouble keeping up.

02:14:37.000 So I really was bewildered at this point now.

02:14:41.000 Because then I started to get into tremendous trouble with the school district because these 13-year-old Harlem kids were winning. 1.00

02:14:50.000 If I mean, if I tell you every award New York City had to give and they weren't supposed to be winning those awards.

02:14:58.000 So I came under heavy scrutiny and I resigned on the Op-Ed page of the Wall Street Journal saying I wasn't willing, I didn't think any improvement was really possible in institutional schooling.

02:15:11.000 I wasn't willing to hurt kids any longer.

02:15:13.000 That was 15 years ago, and for the last 15 years, I mean 7 days a week, around the clock, I've been digging up where this institution came from, why it took the shape it took, and how it manages to continue growing larger And more expensive, in the face of almost universal criticism.

02:15:37.000 Give us the brief synopsis, analysis, the basic architecture, where it came from, and then get into detail.

02:15:43.000 Well, obviously, all through human history, some people have wanted, you know, more than their share, and they've wanted to keep other people in their place.

02:15:54.000 That's human nature.

02:15:57.000 It's not a conspiracy.

02:15:58.000 It's a way A lot of people are, but somewhere at the beginning of the 19th century, and somewhere was a little state in northern Germany called Prussia, which once was world famous.

02:16:13.000 I mean, Washington's aide-de-camp during the Revolutionary War was a Prussian, and Prussians have appeared To draw the border between Canada and the United States and the Northwest, there's a town around Philadelphia called King of Prussia that really showed the honor in which we held Prussia.

02:16:37.000 Well, at the beginning of the 19th century, Prussia decided that to have efficient management, it needed to remove the ability of ordinary people to think.

02:16:54.000 ordinary people to imagine and invent and they drew on an ancient system that had been more or less constructed by philosophers since Plato called universal schooling they had to force it at bayonet point or you know under pain of the law because other This is not debatable.

02:17:18.000 This is all facts.

02:17:19.000 Stay there.

02:17:20.000 We're going to go over it with our guest, John Taylor Gatto.

02:17:22.000 I'm Alex Jones. 0.97

02:17:23.000 The martyrs are getting dumber, so pressure put this in place. 0.98

02:17:27.000 And this is all in mainline textbooks. 0.96

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02:17:30.000 This is all facts.

02:17:31.000 Stay there.

02:17:31.000 We're going to go over it with our guest, John Taylor Gatto.

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02:21:51.000 Documentary, filmmaker, author, educator, ad man, John, continuing.

02:22:02.000 Now again, this is mainline history.

02:22:04.000 We study education with the public.

02:22:05.000 Again, it hasn't been educated, so they don't know.

02:22:07.000 They haven't been taught the joy of learning, how exciting it is by design.

02:22:10.000 It's taught to be by rote, to regurgitate the kindergarten system, to actually make soldiers that would march into bayonet lines.

02:22:18.000 And that was expanded out to industry, so they took that military-style training and brought it into the industry.

02:22:24.000 And now they're getting it finally honed, as you know, down to specific career-based Okay, we're in Prussia now, and the year is 1819, and for the first time in human history, a successful universal system of forced schooling is in place.

02:22:34.000 to teach you how to not have critical thinking.

02:22:36.000 Continue with the history. - Okay, we're in Prussia now, and the year is 1819, and for the first time in human history, a successful universal system of forced schooling is in place.

02:22:52.000 Yeah, the teachers' college will find a lot of earlier attempts, including in New England, to do this, Not one of them ever worked, because there was too much common sense around.

02:23:04.000 But Prussia wasn't reluctant to use bayonets.

02:23:08.000 So for the first time in human history, we have this thing up and running by 1819.

02:23:14.000 Ten years later, it's running like clockwork.

02:23:18.000 Prussia, which has no natural resources, a small population, is the fourth richest country on Earth.

02:23:26.000 And it's population marches into battle without argument.

02:23:31.000 So everybody who was involved in trying to get the same system in the United States made the trip to Prussia And studied the system.

02:23:44.000 And it's only one county today of Germany.

02:23:46.000 It's a very small area.

02:23:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:23:48.000 It's right up against the North Sea, and it still doesn't have any money, but it produced the three largest wars so far in human history.

02:23:57.000 So it's pretty effective when people have their independent mind removed, when they can't critically think.

02:24:06.000 They're much more efficient to be ordered around and used as, here's a term I know you heard, Here in Austin, human resources.

02:24:15.000 Well, people aren't human resources until you remove their free will and their ideas.

02:24:22.000 And the joke's right out in the open.

02:24:24.000 They're calling us resources.

02:24:25.000 Oh yeah, they have a department in government.

02:24:28.000 Well, Prussia is now studied.

02:24:31.000 By every major country on earth, as far away as Japan, as I said, everyone involved in schooling in the United States comes back from Prussia.

02:24:45.000 For folks that don't know, that's the kindergarten system, and that's our whole form of education.

02:24:50.000 Oh yes, yes.

02:24:51.000 Well, at first it wasn't, and then they decided that they weren't getting the minds early enough.

02:24:59.000 And so they built the kindergarten system, which means a garden where you grow children like vegetables.

02:25:07.000 I'm amazed that that's eluded people.

02:25:10.000 And it's more effective.

02:25:12.000 And now in places like New York City, Even kindergarten is considered not early enough.

02:25:18.000 Too much independence survives.

02:25:22.000 They're getting kids at age three now into pre-kindergarten here.

02:25:27.000 And now they're saying, oh, parents, we know you're working hard.

02:25:31.000 We have after-school programs till eight at night, so they have them all the time.

02:25:34.000 The CIA of course funded the modern feminist movement, they admit it, it's now declassified, so the mother couldn't be there even in the afternoon to take care of them, so you get double taxpayers, so the parents are completely removed. 0.95

02:25:46.000 Then the leadership model males, these are federal documents that speak up, you drug them.

02:25:51.000 The family is, without thinking about it, it's the biggest obstacle in the path to create a universal utopia, which is the ultimate goal.

02:26:02.000 Automatons.

02:26:03.000 Yeah, we'll get there.

02:26:04.000 But the family, because it awakens these powerful, irrational feelings, irrational meaning that some manager can't predict which way love is going to take you, The family itself has to be disintegrated, and the payoff, the bribe for extending schooling is, well look, we'll put your kids in the hands of experts and you can have a little time off etc

02:26:32.000 let's just boil it down and give me your take on this and the state has said this that that the family's competition to the state the state wants the children the state wants to be the boss and you owe fealty and allegiance to your blood to your family they can't have that well that's precisely it and in places like prussia this was written into legislation that the state owned the children That's not my interpretation.

02:27:00.000 Those are the laws.

02:27:04.000 Through the 19th century, the United States attempts were made to write that into legislation, and there are records, Alex, quite a few, of courts reaching that determination.

02:27:16.000 Let's talk about that.

02:27:18.000 Let's give some specifics in Prussia and here in the U.S., how it ties into eugenics.

02:27:22.000 Some of the first social orders were set up in England, and then in Germany to carry out these operations, racial hygiene. 0.76

02:27:28.000 Hitler, of course, sitting on the children. 0.97

02:27:30.000 We'll be right back.

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02:32:35.000 Why battle the crowds?

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02:32:41.000 We've told all our family, don't give us presents this holiday season, this Christmas.

02:32:44.000 We don't believe in going into debt and doing all this stuff.

02:32:47.000 But still, people are going to do it.

02:32:48.000 We're still giving some gifts.

02:32:49.000 We always say we're not, and we do.

02:32:50.000 And of course, the children really want the gifts, and it's always fun.

02:32:55.000 But, documentary films!

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02:33:03.000 But, End Game Blueprint for Global Enslavement, the New World Order Master Plan to set up a police state, dumb the population down, and carry out orderly hyper-eugenics and the one-child policies of sterilizations, exterminations. 0.90

02:33:16.000 It's all documented in End Game Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

02:33:19.000 It also documents who the globalists are, the North American Union, the EU, their own statements.

02:33:24.000 It's really two or three films in one.

02:33:26.000 I was talking to one of my Hollywood producer friends last night, Tommy Pallotta, who made Scanner Darkly, and a lot of other big films.

02:33:32.000 And he was saying, yeah, it's your best work yet.

02:33:34.000 But he goes, Alex, it's two films again.

02:33:36.000 It's two hours, 20 minutes.

02:33:37.000 It really is two films.

02:33:39.000 And he just said, but that's what I do.

02:33:41.000 I give you more.

02:33:41.000 It's 1995, and you really want to have one film that gives you the whole master plan, the basics, what they're doing, and what their endgame is.

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02:35:38.000 Endgame 1.5, the first two parts up there, the third part, or the second installment for the second day going up today.

02:35:45.000 Going back to our guest, Who I really appreciate coming on, John Taylor Gatto.

02:35:51.000 You've got the floor, sir.

02:35:52.000 Anytime you want to plug your film, your book, any of it, The Secret History of Education.

02:35:57.000 It's not secret if you go look, everything you're saying is documented.

02:36:00.000 You've got the floor.

02:36:01.000 Go through how it was set up, what happened, what we face today and hopefully solutions to educate the public to get out of it, to extricate ourselves out of it.

02:36:12.000 Let me start by telling your audience that If you go to my website, my big book, Underground History of American Education, which you can buy in bookstores for $35 is up on my website.

02:36:26.000 Absolutely free.

02:36:27.000 It took 10 years around the clock to write.

02:36:31.000 It's 330,000 words.

02:36:33.000 I forgot to mention that, again, a true sign, just like I put my films out for free too, you put your book out for free.

02:36:39.000 God bless you.

02:36:40.000 So take a deep breath, but you'll find all of this information I'm giving you now documented, and many, many times more.

02:36:51.000 So what we are is back at the beginning of the 19th century, and I'll run through this real quick, and this little military state of Prussia, for the first time in human history, forces all the young of its ordinary population to go to school, and the country almost immediately becomes

02:37:15.000 The companies become more prosperous, the army becomes more successful because the leaders, the managers, think for everybody.

02:37:26.000 So Prussia is now studied all over the world.

02:37:30.000 They send delegations from Japan.

02:37:32.000 Delegations from Russia and many, many delegations from the United States go to Prussia.

02:37:40.000 And by the way, it was so successful that the Gestapo was founded out of the Prussian State Police and the SS was founded out of them.

02:37:48.000 Absolutely!

02:37:50.000 See, if you don't have employees who argue with you or say, no, I won't do that, You're bound to be more efficient.

02:37:58.000 Now, it is a kind of short-term efficiency, but... Because very soon everything degenerates and falls apart, and then you have no brains to pull from in the next generation.

02:38:09.000 Exactly, and that's what's happening to us.

02:38:12.000 My dad's a pretty high-level executive in healthcare.

02:38:15.000 I'd say he's one of the top thousand brains in healthcare in the country.

02:38:20.000 He gets sent to these $5,000 to $10,000 seminars.

02:38:24.000 One day he called me from the Four Seasons here in Austin.

02:38:28.000 I forget the guy's name, he's a real famous guy, and he said, the New World Order has destroyed everyone's brains with the Prussian model. 0.90

02:38:34.000 My dad called me from out in the hall going, it's incredible, it's like six.

02:38:37.000 And he said, he said, the guy says that our models destroyed everyone, so now we don't have anyone to pull from except the homeschoolers, but we've got to keep it secret for management, because we've got to keep this other system in place, but they admitted that it's, they've overdone it.

02:38:52.000 But go ahead.

02:38:52.000 Well, let me give your listeners a piece of mathematical proof of what you just said.

02:38:59.000 In 1950, the United States had 90% of all the patents for invention issued in the planet Earth.

02:39:10.000 Now we're down in the low 30s and dropping fast.

02:39:16.000 Because once you destroy this imagination, which was specifically recommended by some names I'm going to give you so you can verify this independently, but But all of the big thinkers who led to the schooling we know said, first you have to destroy the imagination of ordinary people, or they'll think up ways to escape this, or get around this.

02:39:40.000 But once the imagination was gone, all that stream of invention... It's the engine of innovation, of creativity, and of rebellion.

02:39:50.000 Yes!

02:39:51.000 Yes, I mean, and it was certainly a source of Of incredible wealth.

02:39:57.000 I'm invited to speak about half a dozen times so far by the Chinese government.

02:40:02.000 And I've been in all different parts of China.

02:40:05.000 And the funny thing is, is the three American businesses which clearly dominate China, that's really amusing in a way, are all built around imagination.

02:40:19.000 I'll tell you, every Chinese I saw was playing American computer games while they were sitting in a McDonald's eating, I don't mean this too critically, but eating pieces of meat that I'll tell you in human history nobody would eat except slaves. 0.93

02:40:38.000 But anyway, all the movies, all the traveling acts at the big hotels, they're all American because the imagination is Gone in China.

02:40:48.000 They can recruit hundreds of millions of people to, you know, work around the clock for $2, but they can't, they steal our patents.

02:40:58.000 I know that your listeners know this.

02:41:01.000 They steal our patents and our copyrights regularly.

02:41:05.000 Here's an example.

02:41:06.000 Until about 1915, going back to 1800, the U.S.

02:41:11.000 had over half the patents, 4% of the population had half the world's wealth.

02:41:15.000 Because of feudalism, there was no imagination.

02:41:18.000 They just institutionalized this system and that's why we dominated the world.

02:41:22.000 Now the globalists have seized us and used us as an engine to dominate, but now they've depleted and destroyed their brain trust.

02:41:29.000 Yes.

02:41:30.000 Yes, well let me get back though to Prussia.

02:41:33.000 So Prussia is studied all over the world by ambitious nations including the United States and the lessons how to do this to your population are brought back 0.52

02:41:47.000 The trouble in the United States was, as Abraham Lincoln said in 1859 to the Wisconsin Agricultural Association, virtually everyone in the United States, 75% of the population, had an independent livelihood.

02:42:04.000 They were small farmers, they were entrepreneurs, they were dressmakers, they were traveling entertainers.

02:42:10.000 And they didn't buckle under because they weren't tied to some bureaucratic ladder of jobs.

02:42:18.000 So it took a long time, and what it took was several crushing inflations, financial panics, and several big wars to pull this off under the cover of these wars and financial panics.

02:42:40.000 Institutional schooling was set up to deliver the same kind of mindless or semi-mindless citizenry that Prussia had enjoyed. 0.97

02:42:53.000 And now we see the average American, one-fifth, can't find the U.S.

02:42:57.000 on a map.

02:42:58.000 Seventy-plus percent of high school graduates don't even know what a continent is.

02:43:02.000 Or where the Pacific Ocean is.

02:43:03.000 Yeah, right.

02:43:05.000 It's way beyond what the newspapers cover.

02:43:08.000 That's what Orwell talked about, though.

02:43:09.000 He had discovered this, how they were destroying language, reducing it by design.

02:43:13.000 It's like people listening to us right now either have escaped this or a new listener who's been under this control can't even understand us right now.

02:43:21.000 Well, I must add to your Orwell illusion, that Orwell was in the outer fringes of this thing when it was happening.

02:43:32.000 So he didn't discover it, he actually listened to the people planning this.

02:43:37.000 And when he wrote 1984, which all the American papers said had to be about the Soviet Union, he was talking about London and England.

02:43:45.000 Oh yeah, he said that, yeah.

02:43:47.000 Yeah, but that's conveniently...

02:43:52.000 He wrote letters where he said that, because he'd been a secret policeman in India, then he'd fought against the fascists in Spain, then he'd been a propagandist for BBC during the war, and he finally figured out they were controlling it all.

02:44:07.000 Well, it was his BBC contacts who were rather proud of what they were doing.

02:44:13.000 Really, the whole idea, I mean we call part of that group now the Fabian Socialists, but the idea was that biologically, you and I and about 95% of the population are permanently inferior I want to source that for you so that anyone who says this is wild talk can check it for themselves.

02:44:36.000 It was Charles Darwin who said that in 1871 in the book called Descent of Man.

02:44:43.000 He said only a few of the human race are evolving.

02:44:47.000 Everybody else is a dead end and if you can't... And then that expanded into his protégé, Sir Francis Galton, the father of eugenics.

02:44:55.000 Oh well, Galton was more than his protégé, it was his first cousin!

02:44:59.000 It was his first cousin who it was called.

02:45:02.000 Now I want to be clear, you independently have done all the same research I've done, discovered the same thing.

02:45:07.000 So has Alan Watts, so have many others.

02:45:11.000 The point is, people keep thinking we're getting this from each other.

02:45:13.000 I've never heard you until a few years ago and heard you once.

02:45:15.000 I mean, the point is, is that we're all discovering the same thing.

02:45:19.000 And listeners, if you go research this, you're going to find the same thing.

02:45:23.000 With the internet, it's fairly easy to read.

02:45:26.000 You don't have to go to an interpreter of this data.

02:45:30.000 You can go directly to the data.

02:45:31.000 To them?

02:45:32.000 You can pick at random any book that Galton ever wrote.

02:45:37.000 That's Darwin's first cousin.

02:45:39.000 And the Herald stands up on your head and he's advising.

02:45:44.000 I don't think many people know this.

02:45:45.000 And then his protégé, of course, was H.G.

02:45:48.000 Wells, whose protégé was then Julian Huxley.

02:45:51.000 But go ahead.

02:45:55.000 The Darwin family wasn't just a wealthy family.

02:46:00.000 They were among the supreme fortunes on planet Earth.

02:46:04.000 So rather than thinking of Charles Darwin as a scholar speaking to other scholars,

02:46:11.000 You're talking about a man who was in the inner circle around the British throne, who had fantastic wealth, Galton also, and spoke to, you know, dukes and earls and heads of industry, so that... And plus, their idea of the elite being supermen and us being dogs, that was already the elite's ideas for thousands of years, so they tailored a science to fit into that elitist approach.

02:46:39.000 The idea certainly has been around.

02:46:41.000 You can find it clearly in Plato's... But it was scientifically codified, yes.

02:46:44.000 Yeah, so it starts... I'll say it starts.

02:46:48.000 It starts in easily accessible documents with Plato's Republic and his Utopia of the Law.

02:46:56.000 2,400 years, yes.

02:46:57.000 And he'll say, people are frozen into these categories.

02:47:01.000 The whole idea that they can get out of these categories is just nuts.

02:47:06.000 So, but from Plato it goes to a very, very important theological work of the 15th century.

02:47:15.000 It goes to John Calvin, and Calvin says there's so many of these inferior people damned by God before they're born, that's predestination, that we can't lock them up or police them.

02:47:28.000 We're going to have to teach them how to police themselves, and we'll do that by establishing universal schooling.

02:47:36.000 So after Calvin says what Plato said philosophically, Calvin said theologically, just a short time later, about a hundred and fifty years later, the big gun in this, and I'm going to give your readers a book.

02:47:55.000 I'm talking about a Dutch philosopher named Spinoza, S-P-I-N-O-Z-A, who's carried in American colleges as one of the most liberal philosophers who ever lived.

02:48:10.000 What you have to read is the same book that Jefferson and the early American founders read.

02:48:17.000 It has a Latin name, but give me a chance to get it out, because you can get it in the library.

02:48:22.000 It's called Tractate, Tractatus Theologico-Politicus, and in that, after, I guess you've got a break coming up.

02:48:31.000 Final segment, and listen, we're going to have to get you up for two hours, maybe tomorrow, the next day, sir.

02:48:37.000 This is, again, people need to hear this.

02:48:39.000 Final segment coming up.

02:48:40.000 I want you to do a convinced, into the future view.

02:48:43.000 It is a big idea.

02:48:46.000 A New World Order!

02:48:47.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.

02:48:51.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

02:48:55.000 Couldn't their objective be world domination?

02:48:58.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

02:49:01.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.93

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02:51:57.000 Run on for a long time.

02:52:00.000 Run on for a long time.

02:52:03.000 Sooner or later gonna cut you down. 0.99

02:52:06.000 And our legs are gonna cut you down. 1.00

02:52:09.000 Go tell that long-tongued liar. 1.00

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02:52:16.000 Everybody knows.

02:52:18.000 You hear it all the time.

02:52:19.000 Yeah, they dumb us down on purpose.

02:52:21.000 And teachers go, don't blame us.

02:52:23.000 We're not blaming you.

02:52:24.000 You're kept on a very short leash.

02:52:26.000 The textbooks are, and I have the federal documents on this, I know our guest does, designed to not teach them.

02:52:32.000 Designed So that only the most intelligent will make it through, and it's even meant to stunt them.

02:52:40.000 See, they claim eugenics is positive and negative. 0.97

02:52:42.000 Breeding elites to be more elite, and culling the dummies. 0.97

02:52:46.000 But in truth, when you actually read the eugenicists, they go, no, our plan is to dumb down the intelligent. 0.80

02:52:51.000 Our plan is to block any middle class that gives rise, that could ever raise a challenge to our hegemon. 1.00

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02:53:24.000 We only got about four minutes left, sir, and the transmission's over, but I'm gonna have a producer call you right now at the end of the show and set you up for two hours tomorrow or the next day.

02:53:32.000 I'm very impressed with your research.

02:53:34.000 JohnTaylorGatto.com is the website. 0.73

02:53:37.000 John, kind of give us a preview of what's coming up kind of a condensed view in three minutes of where it's going where it went in the future up until present and then we'll get into that next time you're on with us what happened after this string of if i say great minds you know what i mean Through human history, said from different perspectives that most people were trash or garbage or even dangerous.

02:54:04.000 What happened was that the American economy, which once had been an economy of independent livelihood, was deliberately converted to a big corporation, industrial economy.

02:54:19.000 Basically, if I say by two men, it's more like 22.

02:54:24.000 But if you know what Andrew Carnegie did and what John D. Rockefeller did, you can then generate what the rest of them did because they all worked together.

02:54:35.000 Through their foundations, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie imported the Prussian system into the United States, bribed in a gentlemanly fashion, bribed the right people to give it its stride, There were a few setbacks, but it always moved forward, and generation by generation, The population became what it was supposed to be.

02:55:03.000 We crammed, without religious imagination or cause, without independence or an inner life, looking for, if not a handout, looking to be patted on the head and said, good job.

02:55:17.000 They had to convert the independent American population into one that would fit into a corporate ladder. 0.68

02:55:28.000 At that point... We're out of time.

02:55:30.000 We're out of time, sir.

02:55:31.000 Can you come back on tomorrow?

02:55:33.000 I don't think tomorrow I can.

02:55:36.000 I would like to, but I have to.

02:55:38.000 I have a farm about 200 miles from here, and I have to get up there.

02:55:42.000 I'll tell you what, we'll set you up for next week.

02:55:44.000 How's that sound?

02:55:45.000 Okay, that's more like it.

02:55:47.000 Okay, I'm going to have my producer call you right now, and then we'll go through what happened from 1900 until now, and then where this goes in the future.

02:55:53.000 Of course, then they get us all in debt, and it's all about making us dependent.

02:55:56.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:55:57.000 That's what the Federal Reserve's about.

02:55:59.000 Yes, sir.

02:56:00.000 Listen, I'm very impressed with your research.

02:56:02.000 I'm very thankful for your research.

02:56:04.000 JohnTaylorGatto.com.

02:56:06.000 Links on InfoWars.com.

02:56:08.000 Go get the free book right there.

02:56:09.000 Buy the book.

02:56:10.000 We'll talk to you soon, sir.

02:56:11.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:56:12.000 Thank you.

02:56:13.000 You bet.

02:56:14.000 What a great man.

02:56:15.000 The show starts again.

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02:56:18.000 Go to InfoWars.com if you missed any of the first hour.

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