Alex Jones Show - 20071204_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:42.000 Welcome.

00:00:42.000 Thank you so much for joining us on this fourth day already.

00:00:47.000 Hard to believe that it's already the fourth day.

00:00:53.000 of December 2007, and we're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:59.000 In top stories for you, ex-Italian president, intel agencies know 9-1-1, an inside job, man who blew the whistle on Gladio, tells Italy's largest newspaper, attacks were run by CIA Mossad.

00:01:19.000 Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francisco Casiga, I believe I'm pronouncing that right, has gone public on 9-1-1 telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

00:01:42.000 He was also the former head of Italian's secret Police or intelligence agency, so we'll be breaking that down coming up.

00:01:53.000 Also a great story by Steve Watson at Infowars.net.

00:01:58.000 Dear diluted mass media, North American Union agenda exists, and in seven pages it walks through the detailed facts.

00:02:06.000 Also in Tampa, Florida, U.S.

00:02:08.000 drug jar John Walters in Tampa, touting local programs aimed at stopping students.

00:02:13.000 The feds in Florida Telling a program stopping students from using and abusing prescription drugs, and it says they're doing random drug testings, federally funded, as if random drug testing or compulsory drug testing violating the Fourth Amendment isn't bad enough.

00:02:31.000 Now the feds are involved in all of that.

00:02:34.000 Another story here, hearing impaired man tasered by police.

00:02:40.000 Bush keeps up pressure on Tehran as a new U.S.

00:02:43.000 government report mirrors a U.N.

00:02:45.000 report saying that their nuclear program is peaceful.

00:02:50.000 And the Iranian president says he welcomes the U.S.

00:02:54.000 nuclear report.

00:02:57.000 Anger as fines from speed cameras soar.

00:02:59.000 And I heard Derry Brownfield this morning here on the Genesis Network Talking about how wolves are stalking children in New Mexico, coming on school playgrounds, they're having to lock down schools, they're having to, in Albuquerque and surrounding areas, build wolf shelters by the bus stops where the kids have to run in enclosed metal doors so the wolves don't eat them.

00:03:22.000 And there's this popular conception by a lot of, even informed people, they're sweet and loving and just lick and kiss on you.

00:03:29.000 So we Google attacks.

00:03:31.000 We have them attacking people from Alaska to India, killing dogs of their own yard, coyotes eating your cats and dogs.

00:03:38.000 You're gonna have to decide whether you like your geese by your pond if you're in the country, or dogs, or your cats, or your children.

00:03:45.000 Every six months or so, I say a couple a year, cougars, mountain lions, pumas, whatever name you want to give them, from California to Florida to Idaho, grab children and small women.

00:03:59.000 They don't usually attack males.

00:04:03.000 And in fact, some forestry workers, even out in California and Oregon, when they're out, especially women, they'll wear a mask on the back of their head because they only sneak up behind you.

00:04:16.000 These smaller cats, they're huge, but they're not as big as a tiger or a lion.

00:04:21.000 And the puma kills people all the time.

00:04:25.000 And, uh, their numbers are exploding everywhere.

00:04:26.000 I have seen one out in East Texas.

00:04:28.000 My dad has seen them on our little family farm.

00:04:31.000 I've been out in California and other areas.

00:04:33.000 Every time I'm on a road trip out there, the four or five I've taken, two or three pumas will jump across you at night.

00:04:39.000 Beautiful cats.

00:04:41.000 And I just thought I'd illustrate that they are killing us.

00:04:44.000 And, uh, the wolves are now starting to enjoy themselves as well.

00:04:48.000 They're not friendly.

00:04:49.000 They're not nice.

00:04:50.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:55.000 It is a big idea.

00:04:56.000 A New World Order.

00:04:59.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.

00:05:03.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

00:05:06.000 Isn't their objective being world domination?

00:05:09.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

00:05:13.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of extenuating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.68

00:05:23.000 For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.

00:05:28.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

00:05:32.000 Bill Burgess is making great progress toward a world government.

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00:08:11.000 We have Michael Rivero joining us in at the second hour today.

00:08:16.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of Reaganomics, head of policy, Department of Treasury under Ronald Reagan, father of Reaganomics, former Wall Street Journal editor, We'll be joining us about some new reports he's got out dealing with the end of America, the end of the Republic, the total police state system being put in place right now.

00:08:38.000 So we'll be talking to this esteemed economist coming up in about 25 minutes from now.

00:08:47.000 I have a compilation from PrisonPlanet.com Of different Ron Paul statements going back 30 years, 25 years, 10 years, and this year.

00:08:58.000 That I want to play, so you can see where he's been on the economy all the time, all along.

00:09:05.000 He was the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, because it's sensible policies and historical information.

00:09:11.000 But before we do that, there's a trailer, you can call it a trailer, an ad, up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:09:19.000 Fox News won't run pro-Constitution ads.

00:09:25.000 The Center for Constitutional Rights recently produced an ad called Rescue the Constitution that criticizes the Bush administration for destroying the Constitution.

00:09:33.000 And of course, Naomi Wolf's involved with that as well.

00:09:36.000 And it goes on to say, through the use of tactics like renditions, that's kidnapping and torture, Fox News is refusing to air the ad, claiming that it needs documentation that the Constitution is indeed being destroyed.

00:09:49.000 And so here is the audio of the censored video.

00:09:54.000 Anything that's censored, we need to work harder on getting out to the people.

00:09:59.000 By the way, speaking of censor, for those that don't know, Digg is one of the top websites in the world.

00:10:03.000 Tens of millions of viewers a day.

00:10:06.000 For two months, the Berry Brigade over there, but there's been some computer experts that have done analysis and Dig admits it now.

00:10:13.000 They first banned us in January.

00:10:14.000 There was a big hue and cry.

00:10:17.000 They then just started restricting us and using the Berry Brigade to block us nine times out of ten, but we still got millions of views and reads via that system.

00:10:26.000 Now they have, because we've been able to look at the berries, we can get 1,505 hours.

00:10:32.000 A hundred usually puts you on the main page.

00:10:35.000 We can get 1,500, and we're blocked.

00:10:38.000 Now, what really happened has been outright banned, just like we were 11 months ago.

00:10:46.000 And so, we need to do a report on that at PrisonPlanet.com or TruthNews, about how we've been buried, about how we've been blocked, and what really happened has as well.

00:10:56.000 Just another example.

00:10:57.000 Wikipedia, we've been expunged from, I'd say, 90 plus percent of that.

00:11:02.000 We've just been completely blasted and blown away there.

00:11:05.000 We're getting blasted on hundreds of fronts.

00:11:06.000 I'm only mentioning a few.

00:11:07.000 Now, if you want to let them win and let them have their way, I guess we can all just crawl back in our holes.

00:11:11.000 from MySpace admitting it from their moderators.

00:11:14.000 So we're getting blasted on hundreds of fronts.

00:11:17.000 I'm only mentioning a few.

00:11:19.000 Now, if you want to let them win and let them have their way, I guess we can all just crawl back on our holes, or we can intensify our efforts.

00:11:28.000 We can increase...

00:11:31.000 Go in there and just go all over Digg.

00:11:34.000 All over other stories they're doing.

00:11:35.000 All over other reports they're doing.

00:11:37.000 Other stories about video games and topless bars and football.

00:11:43.000 And just blast them everywhere about their censorship and just in all their message boards.

00:11:48.000 PrisonPlanet.com, TruthNews.

00:11:50.000 I haven't called for this.

00:11:51.000 Now I am. 0.98

00:11:52.000 Just go in there and just hit them everywhere. 0.99

00:11:54.000 Just blasting.

00:11:56.000 Because they claim that they're this digital democracy and you can go on there and, you know, the stories get voted up to the main page and everyone will see them.

00:12:04.000 And that's just not the case.

00:12:06.000 Blast them with WhatReallyHappened.com and they'll censor that word. 1.00

00:12:09.000 You'll have to add, like, a smiley face in between the .com, get around their spy bots and AI systems that, you know, go through and...

00:12:18.000 There's ways to fool it for now, though they're starting to ban just whole combinations.

00:12:23.000 Blast MySpace, just literally, it's an info war.

00:12:26.000 Picture yourself just taking foxholes, throwing info hand grenades on them.

00:12:30.000 When you move, it's unstoppable.

00:12:32.000 Go into all the other big Sean Hannity boards and Glenn Beck and just blast, blast, blast, never stop.

00:12:39.000 Or we can just totally cement to these people.

00:12:41.000 But see, these are venues where we can reach millions of new minds and wake them up to the threat of the North American Union, the open borders, the gun control, the attack on Iran. 0.62

00:12:51.000 We're winning the info war, by the way, but they're trying to move in with censorship similar to what China did in the last decade with filtering.

00:12:58.000 They're bringing in Chinese models. 0.99

00:13:00.000 And I'm not going to put up with it. 0.98

00:13:02.000 I say go completely ape.

00:13:04.000 And I say go get this video that's on YouTube at PrisonPlanet.com.

00:13:08.000 Fox News won't run pro-Constitution ad.

00:13:10.000 And just go get this right now and email it to everybody.

00:13:12.000 Not just us.

00:13:13.000 Anything else gets censored, go crazy.

00:13:15.000 Here it is, ladies and gentlemen.

00:13:17.000 Some of these individuals are taken to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and have a fairly robust interrogation program without torture.

00:13:23.000 If the Constitution doesn't say every citizen is a civil rights or any sort of civil rights offender, it doesn't say that.

00:13:28.000 The United States does not torture.

00:13:29.000 It's against our laws and it's against our values.

00:13:34.000 No trials, no additions, no torture.

00:13:37.000 The Bush Administration is destroying the Constitution.

00:13:40.000 They can be stopped.

00:13:41.000 Rescue the Constitution.

00:13:45.000 And there's a website, Rescue the Constitution, and they say, well, you're not allowed to advertise the name of your organization because the Constitution doesn't need rescuing.

00:13:53.000 Oh, no, just NSA openly admitting they're spying on non-care related cases domestically without warrants.

00:13:59.000 Oh, just cameras in school bathrooms and, you know, checkpoints and FEMA camps and everybody getting tasered and just all of the stuff that's happening.

00:14:07.000 No, no, and it's just everything's fine.

00:14:10.000 America's just fine.

00:14:11.000 There's no problem.

00:14:13.000 We just have the Attorney General, former Attorney General, now testifying before the Senate and the House.

00:14:18.000 We'll play it again.

00:14:19.000 It's Gonzales in the middle, talking about how you just don't have any rights.

00:14:25.000 Listen to him.

00:14:26.000 Some of these individuals are taken to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and have a fairly robust interrogation program without torture.

00:14:32.000 The Constitution doesn't say every citizen should be given a grant to provide torture.

00:14:36.000 It doesn't say that.

00:14:36.000 The United States does not torture.

00:14:38.000 It's against our laws and it's against our values.

00:14:42.000 When trials, renditions, torture, the Bush administration is destroying the Constitution.

00:14:48.000 They can be stopped.

00:14:50.000 Rescue the Constitution.

00:14:53.000 And that's Danny Glover.

00:14:54.000 It's a well-producible 30-second ad.

00:14:57.000 And there's Gonzales saying citizens don't deserve habeas corpus.

00:15:01.000 I mean, that's Magna Carta, 1215.

00:15:04.000 That's the very basis of a due process of liberty, of freedom.

00:15:07.000 That they can't just secretly grab you and drag you off to some nest.

00:15:10.000 And then, we read the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, and the Military Commissions Act, and Presidential Decision Directive 51, and every major law scholar that looked at it said, this all affects U.S.

00:15:20.000 citizens!

00:15:22.000 This is to secretly arrest us, secretly torture us, secretly execute us. 0.95

00:15:25.000 It says it all.

00:15:26.000 And then the neocons go, it doesn't say that!

00:15:29.000 But then they question Gonzales about it, and he goes, yeah, you can grab citizens without habeas corpus.

00:15:35.000 We played those clips over and over again here.

00:15:37.000 I said I'd play this Ron Paul clip.

00:15:39.000 This is a little compilation of Ron Paul on the economy.

00:15:42.000 This is leading into Dr. Roberts coming up.

00:15:44.000 Here it is.

00:15:45.000 The subject today is whether or not we should have a gold standard or whether we should follow the standard that we are using today and that is the discretionary paper standard.

00:15:55.000 And obviously I support the idea that it would be wiser to have a gold standard rather than a paper standard.

00:16:03.000 And I think that unfortunately for those who believe in the paper standard have one little problem.

00:16:09.000 They have to defend what we have today.

00:16:12.000 And they have to defend the soundness of the economy, the soundness of the dollars, and they have to explain why the interest rates are high and why the housing market is not doing so well.

00:16:20.000 So I think they have a terrible job.

00:16:22.000 When you destroy money, prices go up.

00:16:25.000 When the government interferes in certain segments of the economy, those prices go up more rapidly.

00:16:30.000 So when you see the cost of education and the cost of medicine going up faster than anything else, it's not because of the gouging procedure.

00:16:39.000 It's due to the fact that government injects more money into these areas, but it's a failed system because it doesn't broaden the distribution.

00:16:45.000 It only raises costs and, of course, the quality goes down.

00:16:49.000 Well, no, you can't have a government like this without an income tax.

00:16:52.000 We don't want a government like this.

00:16:54.000 This is not the kind of government that was designed by our founders of the country.

00:16:58.000 It's not what was written in the Constitution.

00:16:59.000 We've only had an income tax since 1913.

00:17:01.000 But if you want a welfare state, and if you want to police the world and pay for the defense of Japan and Germany, send foreign aid to the Soviet Union, you not only need the income tax, you need the Federal Reserve to print up the money when the deficit is accumulated.

00:17:15.000 So we think the government should be much smaller.

00:17:17.000 If government is small, That's right.

00:17:21.000 And they want always to have Congress a way of financing.

00:17:25.000 So if they can't borrow enough money, they are going to go to the Fed and the Fed will monetize it and create the money.

00:17:32.000 So it probably wasn't an accident the fact that in 1913, the same year they gave us the Federal Reserve, they gave us an income tax.

00:17:40.000 And they also changed significantly changed our foreign policy where we started this Woodrow Wilson protect the world and save democracy and make the world.

00:17:50.000 I'm more concerned about the way the 16th Amendment was passed.

00:17:54.000 And I don't think it was technically correct.

00:17:56.000 And I think Mr. Bannister is correct.

00:17:58.000 And technically we shouldn't have to pay the income tax.

00:18:02.000 It's just that I've chosen a different tactic.

00:18:04.000 I think that we should change it in a more deliberate fashion and that's why I'm a legislator.

00:18:12.000 There's a group that get together internationally and they sort of play God with our money.

00:18:18.000 That's part of what the George Bush show was the new world order?

00:18:21.000 They can't have a new world order only with a world police or military.

00:18:26.000 I think the financial system I consider the Federal Reserve Act and the creation of the Federal Reserve Act as being unconstitutional.

00:18:36.000 It gave the government then the power to create legal tenure out of thin air.

00:18:42.000 That is, to create paper money.

00:18:43.000 And although they didn't do that overnight, between 1913 and 1971, that is exactly what happened.

00:18:49.000 But the notion of a central bank does not fit into the Constitution.

00:18:54.000 The Congress has the authority to coin money, and only gold and silver should be legal tender.

00:19:01.000 Transparency and monetary policy is a goal we should all support.

00:19:04.000 I've often wondered why Congress has so willingly given up this prerogative over monetary policy.

00:19:11.000 Congress, in essence, has ceded total control of the value of our money to a secretive central bank.

00:19:17.000 Congress created the Federal Reserve, yet it had no constitutional authority to do so.

00:19:22.000 We forget that those powers not explicitly granted to the Congress by the Constitution are inherently denied to the Congress.

00:19:30.000 And there's more at PrisonPlanet.com.

00:19:32.000 When we get back, former Italian president and former head of their intelligence agency, Francisco Casca, has gone public saying 9-11 is an inside job.

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00:24:11.000 You know what's happening.

00:24:13.000 I had a plan.

00:24:15.000 I looked at you.

00:24:17.000 The New World Order cover-up is unraveling.

00:24:22.000 It unraveled a long time ago, but it's really falling apart right now.

00:24:27.000 And I'll tell you what made me happy.

00:24:33.000 I was very happy to wake up this morning And learn that someone that we quote in Terror Storm, a history of government-sponsored terror, has gone completely public in a big way.

00:24:51.000 And by the way, my wife speaks Italian, living six years in Rome.

00:24:56.000 I am going to try to get her, she used to be my producer, she's a great producer, we've got a better shot getting French and Italian and Spanish guests on.

00:25:07.000 I'm just saying this on air so I don't forget.

00:25:10.000 I'm going to have her and everything else she's doing try to get this fellow on. 1.00

00:25:14.000 Maybe she can even come in and interpret.

00:25:16.000 But I'm told he speaks pretty good English as well.

00:25:19.000 But yes, we're going to work on getting him on the show.

00:25:23.000 And it's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:25:25.000 It's a big deal.

00:25:28.000 We have Robert Baird.

00:25:30.000 Super high-level CIA field operative, very famous, movie Siriana about him, true story, saying that all the evidence points towards an inside job.

00:25:37.000 Bill Christensen, former CIA section chief, Europe, going public, saying it's total inside job, that there's no doubt all the evidence conclusively points at that.

00:25:47.000 And now we have hundreds of others, of course, but ex-Italian president, intel agencies know 9-11, an inside job.

00:25:57.000 Man Who Blew The Whistle On Gladio Tells Italy's Largest Newspaper Attacks Were Run By CIA, Mossad, Former Italian President, And The Man Who Revealed The Existence Of Operation Gladio, Francisco Casca, Has Gone Public On 9-11, Telling Italy's Most Respected Newspaper That The Attacks Were Run By The CIA And Mossad, And That It Was Common Knowledge Amongst Global Intelligence Agencies.

00:26:26.000 Costco was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide 1985 election to become president of the country in 1985.

00:26:39.000 Costco gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed, an honest politician.

00:26:51.000 And led the country for seven years until April 1992.

00:26:54.000 He's one of the most respected Italian presidents ever.

00:26:58.000 I mean, they can have two or three presidents in a year in Italy.

00:27:01.000 If you serve a year, that's a long time.

00:27:03.000 It's a parliamentary system, and it's very volatile.

00:27:07.000 And he is one of the longest-serving Italian presidents.

00:27:12.000 In fact, he's the longest-serving since El Duce, or Mussolini.

00:27:20.000 So a very, very long serving, ladies and gentlemen, from 1985 to 1992, seven years.

00:27:29.000 And before that was the president of the Senate.

00:27:31.000 And it says Casca's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment.

00:27:38.000 He was forced to resign after revealing the existence of and his part in setting up.

00:27:42.000 And to be clear, he was aware of it when he was heading up the intelligence agency because he came in to be the head of Italian intelligence right after it had happened.

00:27:50.000 So to be clear, Watson might add to that that, yes, he was involved and then he knew about it and kept quiet.

00:27:56.000 He was not involved in the attack itself.

00:27:58.000 A rogue intelligence network under NATO...

00:28:01.000 It was actually the U.S.

00:28:01.000 carrying it out.

00:28:02.000 Italy just stood by.

00:28:03.000 And NATO's auspices carried out bombings across Europe in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, ending with the Bologna bombing in 1980, killing over 140 people, blowing up buses at the Bologna bus terminal.

00:28:15.000 And he finally went public about that at the end of his presidency, and the government just went completely ape and didn't deny it and just said he had disclosed national security secrets.

00:28:25.000 Man, he just, in fact, I've got the quotes in the news articles translated from Italian that we put in Endgame, and not in Endgame, in Terror Storm, and he just said, look, I can't continue to cover this up.

00:28:40.000 I can't continue.

00:28:41.000 This was the CIA in conjunction with criminal groups they hired that staged this.

00:28:47.000 Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they coined false flag operations, terror attacks that were blamed on the domestic and geopolitical opposition.

00:28:57.000 Casca's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which Ebrus was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by U.S.

00:29:06.000 intelligence apparatus.

00:29:08.000 Yeah, so Paul, you might change that.

00:29:10.000 I mean, he did say, I take credit, I'm bad, I knew about it and didn't expose it, but he came in after that.

00:29:16.000 In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vicoguerra stated in sworn testimony, you had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people, far removed from any political game.

00:29:30.000 The reason was quite simple, to force the public to turn to the state and ask for greater security.

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00:35:05.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of ergonomics, the head of policy, Department of Treasury, former Wall Street Journal editor, one of their major pages, and of course he writes for a major syndicated group.

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00:35:42.000 He's written these just in the last week or so, and here to help us Decipher, as a top economist, what's happening right now and his projections into the future.

00:35:54.000 Dr. Roberts, thanks for coming on.

00:35:56.000 Hey, Alex.

00:35:56.000 Glad to be with you.

00:35:58.000 Sir, you've got the floor.

00:36:01.000 Can you, in layman's terms, break down what's happening during the break?

00:36:05.000 I asked you, sir, normally when they cut interest rates or talk about it, that should hurt the dollar, but now the media, and I'm sure you've seen this, is saying, oh, this is good for the dollar.

00:36:15.000 It's just everything is getting crazier and crazier.

00:36:17.000 What's happening?

00:36:19.000 I suspect just the disinformation and the ignorance.

00:36:25.000 The problem as I see it right now is that our policy makers have us in an economic policy trap because the subprime mortgage meltdown requires low interest rates in order to contain the crisis.

00:36:43.000 But the dollar's plight requires high U.S. interest rates if foreigners continue to hold dollars at the same or add to their holdings at the same rate and to continue financing our budget and trade deficits.

00:37:01.000 The current interest rates do not compensate foreigners for the decline in the value of the dollar, and neither do rents or return on equities.

00:37:16.000 Yes.

00:37:17.000 So it's sort of hard to expect people who already have huge dollar denominated portfolios to keep adding to those portfolios while the dollar is losing value.

00:37:36.000 It was only a few years ago the Euro was worth 85 cents and today it's $1.48.

00:37:40.000 Now that means an enormous decline in the holdings of foreigners who finance the US budget and trade deficits.

00:37:52.000 A lot of people want to know how come they kept doing it.

00:37:55.000 I think it's because they expected that at some point the United States would address the budget and trade deficits and get And also, I think, it's not a clear alternative as reserve currency to the dollar.

00:38:21.000 But if you look at the performance rise in the value of the euro relative to the dollar, It shows you the great weakness of the dollar because the euro is really a currency without a country.

00:38:38.000 The European Union doesn't really exist as a political entity because the component states have not turned over their national sovereignty.

00:38:52.000 So France and Germany and Italy and the other members of the EU are still sovereign political entities.

00:39:00.000 Britain, which is a member of the EU, still has its own currency.

00:39:05.000 It's not even part of the euro.

00:39:07.000 So, for a currency that has that many political vulnerabilities to rise so much against the world reserve currency, the dollar, it shows how desperate people are to diversify their holdings away

00:39:27.000 Now, Dr. Roberts, there's been an acceleration by China, by Venezuela, by Saudi Arabia, even by Japan, by Europe, out of the dollar.

00:39:40.000 They're trying to, in an orderly fashion, get out of it.

00:39:45.000 In layman's terms, what are the breaks?

00:39:48.000 I mean, what are the different things that could happen?

00:39:49.000 I mean, what's on the good end of this and what's on the bad end of this?

00:39:53.000 Where do you see this going?

00:39:55.000 Well, first of all, let me say something about their efforts to accelerate getting out of the dollar.

00:40:03.000 As far as I can tell, Alex, and I may be wrong, they're not getting out of the dollar, they're continuing to accumulate dollars.

00:40:13.000 The great decline in the dollar results from them accumulating dollars at a slower rate.

00:40:21.000 Instead of, say, taking on, for example, 100 billion more dollars, they're only taking on 85 billion.

00:40:30.000 And the fact that they're just reducing the rate at which they accumulate new dollars has caused the enormous decline in the dollar.

00:40:38.000 If they were to stop altogether accumulating new dollars, I think the decline would be precipitous.

00:40:48.000 If they were to dump parts of the existing holding, I mean, the dollar wouldn't be worth anything.

00:40:56.000 Well, China did signal a month ago that they were going to divest in large portions of their, what, 1.3 trillion, or is that just saber-rattling?

00:41:06.000 Well, I think what China, if I remember correctly what they did, they reminded the Secretary of the Treasury here that they were our largest banker and he needed to be more polite to them in public, because they do have that power.

00:41:22.000 But I think what they're trying to do It's simply to stop, or certainly to cut back further, the rate at which they accumulate new dollars.

00:41:33.000 Now, it's hard because we push out all these trade deficits.

00:41:39.000 And if China ends up with, say, $200 billion because of the imports from China that exceed our exports to China, what are they going to do with it?

00:41:54.000 And what generally they do is use that cash to acquire treasury bonds, American companies such as IBM's personal computer business, or real estate, or something like that.

00:42:09.000 So the trade deficit basically sort of forces them to accumulate more dollars.

00:42:16.000 Now if they say, well guys, we got another $200 billion out of them this year, we don't want that.

00:42:23.000 How much of it can we diversify?

00:42:25.000 They probably have a hard time.

00:42:27.000 Where would they find $100 billion?

00:42:29.000 That's what you talked about, is there's so many dollars, even if they want to dump them, there's nowhere to dump even a fraction of it, and here we are selling out our sovereignty and infrastructure for CD players and video games and baubles and cameras, and meanwhile these foreign countries are getting water supplies, roads, the actual factories.

00:42:50.000 Here's my question to you, sir.

00:42:54.000 Long term, I mean by long term I don't mean the next 365 days, the way things are moving that seems long term.

00:43:02.000 What policy move do you see, or with the different policy statements we're seeing by Europe, by Asia, and then by the US, just bottom line, if you had to have a guesstimation, where do you see all this going?

00:43:14.000 And expanding on that question, I'm no financial expert, but I talk to all the big experts and read what they have to say.

00:43:21.000 And on the good end, they're saying serious sustained recession.

00:43:24.000 On the bad end, they're saying global financial meltdown.

00:43:27.000 We have all these different cases where they're talking about not just the housing debt unraveling early next year, being much worse than it is right now, and the subprime crisis.

00:43:39.000 and the jumbo loan crisis, but now they're talking about all the credit cards now at record highs, the average person with like $25,000 of credit cards, that unraveling and causing banking crises.

00:43:50.000 Then they're talking about, you know, I mean, just basically something cascading and spinning out of control.

00:43:58.000 Well, I think there are a lot of potential things that can spin out of control, but it seems to me the most dangerous is the dollar losing more of its role as reserve currency or even being dropped as reserve currency, because when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency,

00:44:23.000 we can no longer finance our trade we can no longer finance our trade deficit or our budget deficit.

00:44:30.000 So the government couldn't finance its operations, Because we rely entirely on foreigners to finance these things. 0.61

00:44:38.000 Their saving rate here in the United States is zero.

00:44:42.000 It's negative.

00:44:43.000 Negative, practically.

00:44:45.000 So if the dollar loses more of its reserve currency role, and people are unwilling to continue accumulating them at the current rates, and then

00:45:04.000 This forces down the dollar's value more, which makes them even less willing to accumulate, and it becomes a vicious cycle down.

00:45:16.000 And the only thing that can possibly stop that cycle would be a big hike in interest rates to say, look, you can get so much here on treasury bonds that it pays you to hold them.

00:45:32.000 But then that accelerates the subprime crisis that hooks into the entire over...

00:45:36.000 Exactly.

00:45:36.000 You have to add, what would Washington sacrifice?

00:45:41.000 The financial system and overextended homeowners or its ability to finance its wallet.

00:45:50.000 You see what I'm saying?

00:45:52.000 What indicators are you seeing?

00:45:53.000 What decision does it look like they've made?

00:45:56.000 And then to put it simpler, then what does it look like they're deciding to do, A?

00:46:01.000 B, what would Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, if he was the boss, like you were with Reagan, what would you do?

00:46:07.000 Well, in my recent article, I actually say it's possible we've crossed the point of no return, that we can't resolve the crisis because one requires low interest rates and the other requires high interest rates, and either one of them can do us in.

00:46:23.000 And so, I don't know.

00:46:26.000 I think all that could happen, all that could happen would be for Washington to show that it was taking decisive actions to curtail government spending, to stop the dependence on foreign borrowing to finance the government.

00:46:42.000 That would mean, of course, ending all the wars, which are so expensive.

00:46:47.000 And simultaneously acknowledging that the offshoring of American jobs is the main contributor to the trade deficit.

00:47:01.000 Because every time a company offshores production for U.S.

00:47:05.000 markets, it turns a gross domestic product into imports.

00:47:13.000 So you can never stop the trade deficit as long as you permit all this Uh, offshoring. 0.99

00:47:19.000 Because as you've said, we're not trading.

00:47:20.000 Those companies have actually just moved there.

00:47:22.000 No, they're not trading.

00:47:23.000 They're just moving in order to get cheaper labor.

00:47:27.000 So, in other words, if you have a plant in Illinois and it's making goods that you're selling to Americans, and then you move that to China, then that Output disappears from the domestic national income.

00:47:42.000 We're talking to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

00:47:44.000 Dr. Roberts.

00:47:45.000 It becomes an import from China, which raises the trade deficit.

00:47:48.000 Dr. Roberts, then here's a $65 million question.

00:47:52.000 What do you see from their statements versus their real actions?

00:47:56.000 What does it appear the policy is of the people steering our system?

00:48:03.000 Well, I think that what the policy has been of the people steering the system is to make the Middle East safe for Israeli territorial expansion. 0.87

00:48:14.000 That's why we have these enormous costly wars. 0.98

00:48:19.000 I see beginning yesterday, I think, that finally the permanent government in Washington is moving to rein in the morons in the Bush administration. 0.74

00:48:34.000 We saw the The release of the intelligence reports that conclude that Iran ceased all work on nuclear weapons in 2003, I think it was, which was, you know, three or four years ago. 0.74

00:48:49.000 So, that has undercut the neoconservative Israeli push for an attack on Iran.

00:48:58.000 So, it may well be the permanent government is now going to see if it can Rain in and impose some sanity on the political administration, the elected political administration in Washington.

00:49:15.000 And by permanent government, you mean the bureaucracy?

00:49:18.000 Yeah, the bureaucracy. 0.99

00:49:19.000 The hated bureaucracy, the things that we've always despised and demonized, in the end may be what saves us from the fools we elect. 0.80

00:49:32.000 But anyhow, you have to admit that it's very reassuring to see the intelligence community state unequivocally that all work ceased on Iranian nuclear weapons some years ago. 0.70

00:49:45.000 And even the State Department.

00:49:47.000 That shows splits inside the White House.

00:49:52.000 Perhaps.

00:49:55.000 So, I think much of the dollar's trouble, at least some of it, is People were expecting, on top of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, there was going to be one in Iran! 0.99

00:50:09.000 And who, you know, demanding ever greater financing of the U.S.

00:50:15.000 government.

00:50:17.000 So, I think just that one intelligence report has helped a little bit.

00:50:26.000 And other things like that It showed some sense returning to Washington would, what might help us survive these two crises that push interest rates in different directions.

00:50:40.000 Stay there, Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, final segment with our guest, and we'll discuss the police state because Bush has expanded it, but the police state's been developed by the permanent government.

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00:54:20.000 We were talking during the break, sir, and you were saying America, Israel's name, superpower status is basically finished.

00:54:26.000 What about the permanent government police state that you know goes back before even this current guy back to Clinton and before that with the military-industrial complex?

00:54:36.000 I mean, what do you see us being now?

00:54:37.000 Just a third-rate Kind of like Russia falling apart, with still corrupt elites and robber barons kind of feeding on us, because I see no sign of that letting up.

00:54:48.000 Yes, all that will continue for a while.

00:54:54.000 It's not clear what the Supreme Court is going to do to overthrow the police state that the Bush Nazis have put into place. 0.61

00:55:05.000 It may well be the Supreme Court will overthrow it.

00:55:09.000 And that we will get rid of it.

00:55:13.000 That's not an impossibility.

00:55:15.000 We've seen such resistance in the military itself, among officers, to the military tribunals that they're trying to use in Guantanamo.

00:55:27.000 So they don't yet have an ideological following to the extent that, say, Hitler had.

00:55:34.000 So that they can run roughshod over everything.

00:55:38.000 So the courts might stand and they may overturn this plea state stuff.

00:55:46.000 So I haven't given up all hope on that because I think Bush and Cheney are so weakened and discredited and despised over the world.

00:55:56.000 I doubt either one of them will be able to do any foreign travel.

00:55:59.000 But they show they have incredible chutzpah and aplomb.

00:56:03.000 What about the ace in the hole, a staged event?

00:56:05.000 All the Republican memos say they need one.

00:56:08.000 Right.

00:56:10.000 But you see, who are they going to blame it on this time?

00:56:14.000 Well, they've played that card too much, haven't they?

00:56:15.000 Yeah.

00:56:16.000 I think it's difficult now to stage that, particularly because, you know, what we were talking about earlier, they lack the financial power.

00:56:26.000 But, you know, the whole strength of America has been based on the dollar being the reserve currency because it means we can always finance anything just by creating dollars.

00:56:38.000 No other country can do that.

00:56:40.000 And I think we've lost that capability.

00:56:44.000 Quick answer because we're right at the end here, sir, and I'm always very thankful for your time.

00:56:49.000 Let's say they back off.

00:56:50.000 Let's say things kind of slow down.

00:56:52.000 Hillary's saying she's going to be a warmonger, but let's hope they gelled her.

00:56:55.000 On the good side, how bad is this going to be for our economy?

00:56:59.000 I mean, if we're not going to be a superpower anymore, will we just kind of be a second-rate banana boat, or will it get that bad?

00:57:05.000 I think that we've lost our economy because we've permitted so much...

00:57:11.000 Deindustrialization, so much loss of middle class, upper middle class, professional jobs, you know, information technology, software engineers.

00:57:21.000 There's so much that's been lost, it's going to be hard to get it back.

00:57:27.000 And I don't know that the rest of the world will let us get it back because we're no longer a superpower.

00:57:39.000 We've wasted our position and our resources, and so... Well, two years ago, you talked about we used to be soft power.

00:57:47.000 Now we hear about gates and others.

00:57:48.000 They're all... That's the new word.

00:57:50.000 But once you've already blown it, you don't have it.

00:57:52.000 That's right.

00:57:53.000 We've blown it.

00:57:55.000 If you just look how Putin speaks about us, or Chavez speaks about us, or anybody speaks about us, they don't have the respect and awe It's gone.

00:58:11.000 So, they now see us as, you know, an emperor without any clothes.

00:58:18.000 We can't even occupy Baghdad after five years. 0.76

00:58:21.000 And they know that 9-11's an inside job.

00:58:24.000 Dr. Roberts, amazing interview.

00:58:26.000 Thank you so much for your work for this republic.

00:58:29.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:58:30.000 God bless you.

00:58:31.000 We'll be right back with Michael Rivera.

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00:58:55.000 You want answers?

00:58:57.000 Well, so does he.

00:58:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:03.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:07.000 The New World Order is down, but they're not out.

00:59:10.000 They, I guarantee, have got the ace card in their hand, thinking about playing it.

00:59:15.000 It'll be their undoing if they do it, but they're arrogant.

00:59:17.000 That stage terror attacks to get us into World War III, they think that'll boost the Anglo-American slash Israeli crime arm to the next level. 0.79

00:59:27.000 But there's such disdain globally.

00:59:29.000 But listen, folks, I read 15 years ago, stuff from 30, 40 years ago, about how they were going to build the U.S.

00:59:35.000 up, blow out the dollar, demonize us for globalist expansion, while the banks actually get all those holdings, and then we have to fall before the new old order can rise.

00:59:46.000 And so basically, we were kind of like a war wagon they just ran the gas out of, blew the pistons out of, used as a crash-up derby to run over a bunch of countries.

00:59:55.000 And then they just jump out and jump into the EU, jump into China, jump into Russia, jump into Latin America.

01:00:02.000 And that's what they've always said they do.

01:00:04.000 I mean, how many years have I told you they were going to demonize America, destroy our military, everything they did, dumbing us down with education, and then when you figure out that we were used as the Ponzi scheme to build up the bubble, and that tsunami of 1,500 trillion disinteributives and that tsunami of 1,500 trillion disinteributives that the central banks used, that they're going to blame on us, they used that tsunami of cash to buy up the world.

01:00:31.000 So now private interest, in this banking hegemony, they are now buying up the last vestiges of free market cutlets that are left on the global risk board, and now they're going in to a Eurocentric, with China and Russia orbiting it, into the future.

01:00:56.000 It will be an overrun third world country, slave wages, Just absolutely horrible. 1.00

01:01:04.000 Now, such wealth was secreted here through the bubble itself that that's my only hope. 1.00

01:01:12.000 And there's still some trained individuals and some people that aren't lazy and stupid in this country. 0.97

01:01:18.000 But, I mean, you just heard the father of Reaganomics. 0.98

01:01:20.000 He's by every major economics firm out there, every big publication, he's in the top ten living economists.

01:01:29.000 And you just heard him tell you what's going on.

01:01:32.000 And it just makes me so mad that all these fake Republicans who supported Bush and the neocons thinking it was for America.

01:01:41.000 Because I hear them calling talk shows and go, yeah, it's about oil and our empire. 1.00

01:01:45.000 Let's just kill all them A-rabbers and get their money. 1.00

01:01:48.000 You idiots! 1.00

01:01:49.000 We were used to go steal it, then it's handed over to the big European banks, and we get left with all the blame! 1.00

01:01:57.000 Now, I gave a speech right before Ron Paul, What, in 2002, put it in Matrix of Evil, 2002, where I explained all this.

01:02:09.000 I said, we're going to go into Iraq, we're going to be there, they're going to break it in three parts, they're going to destroy the dollar, they're going to then use the U.S. 1.00

01:02:19.000 to, I gave the analogy of there's a lot of different species of insect that will lay eggs in beetles or other larger insects, and then the babies The larvae hatch out.

01:02:30.000 You'll see a beetle going wild on the ground, and then later the next phase, you'll bust out of the beetle.

01:02:38.000 And basically, we've just had all our insides eaten out.

01:02:42.000 While the New World Order projected propaganda into our minds and our culture going, we're the good guys, we're fighting Al-Qaeda, we're good, oh yeah boy, everything's nice, everything's wonderful, we're the good people.

01:02:53.000 Meanwhile we're being eaten out from the inside by the very people that ran the attacks.

01:02:59.000 And so just remember, when you're totally broke, totally shot, don't have a pot to you-know-what in, you just remember the New World Order did it to you. 0.65

01:03:09.000 Okay?

01:03:11.000 You just remember that.

01:03:12.000 You remember who did it to you, you remember how you suckered along with it, and remember how you laughed at us and everything else you did.

01:03:20.000 We tried as hard as we could, and we still might be able to save this country.

01:03:25.000 But, I mean, it's a diminishing chance.

01:03:28.000 But at least having it fall apart like the Soviet Union is better than World War III and giant death camps. 0.99

01:03:35.000 And that's what they want to set up, and they still may do it.

01:03:38.000 I mean, when Gary Hart's writing letters to the Iranians saying, you better back off, we staged terror attacks, they're not in the open now.

01:03:46.000 It is a big idea.

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01:06:34.000 62 38 that's one eight eight eight eight xanadu or one triple eight eight xanadu and ask for george these the t-rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN radio network Michael Rivera here from what really happened.com to talk about this new national security assessment put out by the CIA and

01:07:04.000 The State Department is saying they're not going to war with Iran.

01:07:06.000 We're going to be discussing that with him.

01:07:09.000 Also, the former Italian President, the longest serving President since Mussolini, very highly respected.

01:07:17.000 He's gone public saying 9-11 is an inside job.

01:07:21.000 So we'll be talking with Michael Rivero about that, also coming up in about 30 minutes.

01:07:24.000 He's going to be with us in the next hour or two.

01:07:26.000 We're going to open the phones up at 1-800-259-9231.

01:07:29.000 We'll talk about the economy, Ron Paul, are they going to go to war with Iran?

01:07:34.000 Are they going to stage some type of black op?

01:07:37.000 What will America look like if this whole system starts falling apart?

01:07:40.000 You know, the new world order doesn't have to be foretold.

01:07:42.000 It doesn't have to happen.

01:07:43.000 I know the preachers tell you that, and it may come in the future.

01:07:46.000 I'm sure it will happen in the future.

01:07:47.000 There's always bad stuff.

01:07:49.000 I believe the Bible, but we can get a reprieve like Nineveh is my point, and boy, I'll take it if I can get it. 0.75

01:07:55.000 Now, I'm not trying to be overly positive here.

01:07:57.000 I am putting perfume on a pig, but a few of the things that are happening right now does show a major shift in a backing off of the more slow New World Order social engineering, but long term, that may be worse for us.

01:08:08.000 Because, you know, the big ham-fisted, wild-eyed mode they've been in the last decade or so has really woken a lot of people up.

01:08:17.000 Let me go on back to Michael Rivero, introducing him here in just a moment.

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01:09:41.000 All right, going to Michael DeVero.

01:09:43.000 Mike, let's get in first to the National Intelligence Assessment, then the former Italian president saying 9-11 is an inside job in Italy's biggest newspaper. - Sure.

01:09:56.000 Well, obviously the National Intelligence Estimate, you know, is a major, major story and this appears to be the same NIE that was being talked about almost a year ago Where it was being held up because pressure from Dick Cheney in the White House.

01:10:10.000 What they were trying to do is say, we can't release these results until everybody agrees on it.

01:10:15.000 Because there were about 15 different agencies involved in this.

01:10:18.000 And there were some differences over some of the minor points.

01:10:22.000 Yeah, they have a Pentagon office that Rumsfeld set up that cooks intelligence, claiming that they had co-equal with the CIA analyst.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, very much so.

01:10:32.000 And they were basically stalling the whole thing.

01:10:35.000 But obviously this is the same N.I.E.

01:10:37.000 and it was released, I believe, actually in October, but without the conclusions.

01:10:42.000 So it briefly surfaced then, but apparently now somebody has gone ahead and released it with the conclusions that Iran did in fact stop its weapons program back in 2003.

01:10:54.000 And what's amazing is looking at the way the media is covering it, because yesterday it was on the U.S.

01:10:59.000 media, but this morning I got up, I put on BBC, we're able to pick that up off the satellite, And they're running the story all over the place, and they're showing the videotapes of George Bush and Dick Cheney just from two months ago, screaming that Iran was on the verge of having a bomb.

01:11:14.000 And, you know, and then showing this report that says that Cheney and Bush knew that Iran had quit their weapons program in 2003, and it's just pounding on the fact that they have lied about this.

01:11:26.000 So I switched over to CNN, and they're showing Miss Puerto Rico may have lied about the pepper spray attack.

01:11:33.000 And to me, this basically says the mainstream media, once again, is going to act as Bush's shield and enabler as they try and sweep this under the rug.

01:11:43.000 But, you know, I used to comment that Iraq was the first war in history in which the lies that started it were exposed while the war was being fought.

01:11:53.000 Well, that's been superseded because now we have the lie that's being used to start the war in Iran is exposed before the war even starts.

01:12:01.000 And what is really frightening is that it looks like Bush and the neocons are still going to try and move forward with this war.

01:12:08.000 Even though their primary reason for it has just exploded in their faces.

01:12:14.000 Bush is back out today saying, hey, it's still on with Iran.

01:12:14.000 That's right.

01:12:18.000 They still got nukes and want to kill us.

01:12:20.000 They're trying to get nukes. 0.99

01:12:21.000 I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.68

01:12:22.000 And this is something clear here. 0.86

01:12:24.000 You have the soft power UN New World Order.

01:12:27.000 You have Bush taking the place of the quote right wing New World Order.

01:12:30.000 As I told you six, seven years ago, they're giving you a false paradigm of false choices.

01:12:35.000 Either way, Iran is dominated by the globalists. 0.65

01:12:37.000 The UN's in there, they let them inspect everything to a level the IAEA said no one had ever allowed them to that level.

01:12:44.000 Total red carpet, anywhere they wanted to go, anytime.

01:12:47.000 Our government doesn't let them do that, and by the way, they shouldn't.

01:12:50.000 And so, either way, this is bad, because the UN now is the authority.

01:12:54.000 This is setting them up as the good guy.

01:12:57.000 And then either way, Iran can't have its own sovereignty, and that sets that precedent. 0.52

01:13:02.000 Well, the problem is that the U.N.

01:13:03.000 is never going to have credibility unless they're able to go into Israel and examine their nuclear weapons and their weapons program.

01:13:10.000 Up until then, that hypocrisy is going to undermine any U.N.

01:13:15.000 pretensions to global order or global policemen.

01:13:18.000 Uh, you know, they're shooting themselves in their own foot, you know, by their inability to deal with the one real nuclear power in the Middle East, which is, of course, you know, Israel. 0.78

01:13:27.000 And all this talk about Iraq and Iran wanting nuclear weapons, they're not starting an arms race, they're trying to join one that's been going on Since the 60s, according to those documents that were just released from the Nixon Library.

01:13:38.000 Hey, let me ask you a question, Mike.

01:13:40.000 What's your take, shifting gears here, to Central Asia?

01:13:44.000 Why did Britain, France, and the US, and this is all admitted, knowingly transfer all the nuclear weapons systems and medium range delivery systems to AQ Khan Laboratories in the mid-90s through 2001?

01:13:56.000 Why did they build up Pakistan? 1.00

01:14:00.000 I think they were building up Pakistan, because at the time, I think they were thinking it would be a replacement for Turkey, because if you remember, we used to have all these missiles, nuclear missiles in Turkey, that we had to pull out following the Cuban Missile Crisis. 0.89

01:14:13.000 So a base in the belly of Russia, well that's, I agree with that also, to kind of ratchet up the crises between Pakistan and India, who has the nukes, they see that as a set piece or balancing move, but if you really analyze it, and most analysts agree, it was insane to arm them. 0.70

01:14:28.000 It absolutely was, but you know, most U.S.

01:14:30.000 foreign policy is being handled by people who know they've only got the job for four or six years, and they really don't think about the consequences past that point.

01:14:39.000 And if you go back through the entire history of U.S.

01:14:41.000 foreign interventionalism, whether we go into Chile and kick out Allende and put in Pinochet, it solved an immediate need, but nobody was thinking what's going to happen, you know, 10, 20 years down the road.

01:14:52.000 The same thing when we put the Shah of Iran. 0.53

01:14:55.000 into power and propped him up.

01:14:57.000 Nobody was thinking years down the road when the Iranian people got so angry with America that they put Ayatollah Khomeini in power and start seizing the embassies.

01:15:04.000 The same thing in the Philippines with Marcos, just over and over again.

01:15:08.000 Well, it also discredits them whenever... it also discredits them whenever they're talking about, we've got to attack Iran right now, they're eight years from a nuke and we left them alone, but meanwhile Pakistan's completely destabilized with a bunch of nuts running around waving machine guns and they've got nukes. 0.83

01:15:25.000 Which they absolutely do, and the bottom line is that, unfortunately, in the modern era, nuclear weapons have become very easy to come by.

01:15:33.000 You can go out... I mean, even I know how to build an atomic bomb.

01:15:36.000 You know, I mean, that's... The knowledge is out there.

01:15:39.000 This idea that if we leave them alone, they'll figure it out.

01:15:42.000 They already know.

01:15:43.000 Everybody already knows how to build a bomb.

01:15:45.000 If you can get the fissionables, you know, then you can rock and roll on the thing.

01:15:51.000 Fissionables have become a black... Yeah, it's become a black market.

01:15:54.000 Again, going back to those Nixon papers that were just released, Israel built their first nuclear bombs with plutonium and uranium they stole from the United States. 0.64

01:16:05.000 And I remember back then, when it was briefly in the news, there was a big material unaccounted for from the Savannah River plant, and then the next day they said, oh, it's probably just caked and plated inside the piping of the system, so we're not going to worry about it.

01:16:18.000 By the way, do you know who guards all U.S.

01:16:20.000 military bases?

01:16:21.000 It's a private Israeli company that guards all the nuke bases. 0.86

01:16:25.000 Yeah, and you know, that makes it very easy for them to basically get this material out.

01:16:29.000 You had a private Israeli company doing security on all the 9-11 airports.

01:16:35.000 Oh, man.

01:16:37.000 Hey, what do you think makes Israel tick?

01:16:37.000 Yeah.

01:16:40.000 I mean, they just really want World War III.

01:16:44.000 What they want is for everybody else to destroy themselves so that Israel will be in charge of whatever's left. 0.99

01:16:49.000 And I've been saying on my website for a long time that I really think that the ultimate goal that Israel has in mind is for the U.S. 0.55

01:16:57.000 and Russia to seriously weaken each other in a mutually destructive war, which would leave Israel and its nuclear arsenal basically in charge of What's left of the world's easily reachable oil in the Mideast. 0.81

01:17:09.000 And, you know, we've certainly seen Israel continuing to push and push and push, and, you know, once Russia kicked out the oligarchs, all of a sudden Russia became the bad guy again.

01:17:20.000 And they're getting a lot of support from the military, who would love to see the Cold War come back, because it was an excuse to soak the American taxpayer for trillions of dollars to build a bunch of silos and subs and rockets and nuclear warheads, none of which ever Thankfully, we're used, but by the same token, they didn't, you know, we don't even know if they ever would have even worked.

01:17:40.000 It was just a huge scam.

01:17:42.000 And, you know, I remember the old duck and cover movies we were shown in school, you know, where... That's just like the anti-terror drills now.

01:17:50.000 The condition is in the fear.

01:17:52.000 Yeah, very much so.

01:17:53.000 You look back at those birth to turtle movies, and this idea that you could save yourself by pulling a picnic cloth over your head when the flash happened was just utterly absurd.

01:18:02.000 And these films weren't really about saving lives.

01:18:05.000 It was just to keep people afraid, and convince them that it was okay to be building these nuclear weapons because we could survive a nuclear war.

01:18:12.000 And it was just absurd stuff, and it's more lies.

01:18:16.000 And now the American people, because of alternative radios such as your shows, because of websites like ours, PrisonPlanet.com, AlexJones.com, WhatReallyHappened.com, the American people have finally woken up to the fact that we are ruled by a government that lies to us every single day of our lives.

01:18:33.000 To trick us into going along with their agenda.

01:18:35.000 Michael Rivero, stay there.

01:18:36.000 I want to talk about their game plan.

01:18:38.000 What's the New World are going to do now that their Anglo-American arm is stalling in the mud? 0.99

01:18:43.000 We'll be right back.

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01:23:00.000 Mike Rivero, last hour I had Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on, and he's writing articles like The Lies at the End of the American Dream, The Impending Destruction of the U.S.

01:23:13.000 Economy, you know, he's the father of Reaganomics, ran the show under Reagan, and he's saying we'll fall apart like the Soviet Union, just as you've always been saying, but there are these larger global financial interests, that I even saw papers 10 years ago where they planned to let the U.S. kind of run around and grab property, start wars, and then this is paid into these big central banks.

01:23:37.000 They get to puff up our economy, inflate it, to fund a lot of their global operations, and then we just kind of implode.

01:23:43.000 In fact, the IMF documents we got in 2002 talk about doing that in the U.S. as they've done in the third world. 0.99

01:23:49.000 So obviously we have these corrupt global interests that are trying to set up this whole global system, They've been setting the police state up for 50 years, really, in the last 20, a crescendo.

01:24:00.000 It looks like both parties are accelerating that.

01:24:04.000 So, yeah, World War III might be lessening, but they could stage an event.

01:24:08.000 I mean, what are the breaks?

01:24:10.000 What do you see happening?

01:24:12.000 Well, I think one of the things to keep in mind is that a lot of what we're seeing is really motivated not by some grand long-term master plan, but by a lot of people just kind of looking out for their own immediate gain.

01:24:27.000 And I'll give you one small example.

01:24:29.000 uh...

01:24:29.000 here in the united states uh...

01:24:31.000 there we have a lot of management people who still think adam smith was really right on where he said if you do what's best for yourself and you're really helping the whole society john nash proved that that was wrong but a lot of people still uh...

01:24:45.000 swear by adam smith because it justifies a lot of very self serving greedy reckless behavior So you have American companies going back to this end of the American dream that Paul Craig Roberts was writing about, where you have companies that are going out, they're avoiding hiring Americans, they're getting low-paid foreign visa workers to come on in because it lowers their costs and increases their profits and they get their stock bonuses and everything, and they're not thinking about where are my customers going to come from?

01:25:13.000 And it's this short-sightedness where everybody's doing the same thing and nobody's really thinking about...

01:25:19.000 You know, if we're not paying our workers, then our, you know, these are our customers that we're shortchanging, they're going to stop buying stuff when the credit rate is up, which is what we're having.

01:25:28.000 Now the subprime is leveraged, now the credit cards are leveraged, there is over a thousand trillion in derivatives, and I mean, every angle you look at this, not just in the U.S., but globally, it just goes from bad to worse, Mike.

01:25:28.000 Exactly.

01:25:45.000 Yeah, I mean there's no credit crisis.

01:25:47.000 There's plenty of credit available.

01:25:48.000 I'm getting offers in the mail.

01:25:50.000 Just yesterday I got a couple more here.

01:25:51.000 What we have is a repayment crisis because we have so turned our back on the product.

01:26:00.000 on the item being sold and we have been so focused on the deal-making to get it sold.

01:26:06.000 I work on commercials as part of my day job.

01:26:08.000 I direct commercials for local TV stations and I've been seeing car commercials on the air.

01:26:13.000 They don't even talk about the cars anymore.

01:26:15.000 The come on is we can arrange the financing.

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01:26:21.000 They don't even talk about the cars they're selling anymore, and we're seeing the same thing in the stores.

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01:26:29.000 Nobody even talks about, this is a good car, this is a good TV, or this is a high-quality product.

01:26:34.000 We've completely turned our back on the idea of making something people want to buy.

01:26:39.000 And it's because of this, you know, we've been sucked down this huge debt hole, And nobody can repay it anymore because everybody was looking out for what was going to do their best profit.

01:26:52.000 I agree.

01:26:53.000 But above that, the international financial architecture, the central banks that are privately owned, that set up the conditions, the atmosphere, where this would breed.

01:27:04.000 It's like if you set out a big tub of water during the summer, you know mosquitoes are going to end up being in it.

01:27:09.000 They, in their own documents, say they set this up To create a global financial black hole that physically cannot be paid back, and then they end up buying and owning and controlling through fiat the entire planet, and then they say they'll use a police state to clamp down during the consolidation phase, but then most of the experts that look at it say the implosion, if it happens, is going to be so big that it'll just even destroy the elite!

01:27:35.000 Yeah, it absolutely will, because it's all resting on this huge hole of debt.

01:27:41.000 The real wealth to pay it off, as you say, it just isn't there.

01:27:44.000 When you create a fiat monetary system, on day one, more money is owed than is really in existence, so it can never never be paid back.

01:27:54.000 And now they're leveraged out to Pluto.

01:27:57.000 I mean, when you talk about real assets being a postage stamp and then derivatives and leveraged bull and digital numbers being a football field in size, and by the way, that's conservative.

01:28:08.000 I mean, where does that go, Mike?

01:28:10.000 It will implode and it will pull the whole structure down with it.

01:28:14.000 And we're seeing basically the equivalent of the fall of Rome.

01:28:17.000 I want to hear what you think the fall of Rome is going to look like, because if Europe and England and Asia think they're not going to be sucked in with this, they've got another thing coming. 0.57

01:28:17.000 Stay there. 0.57

01:28:24.000 Yeah, we're the first, you know what, to go down the toilet bowl, but you're going with us, and I just want to see where Mike thinks this is going.

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01:36:04.000 You know, I didn't interrupt Paul Roberts, Paul Craig Roberts very much, but I didn't do that with Mike because he makes me think about so many things.

01:36:11.000 He's so intelligent, just, I mean, he's one of the very few people that gets the full spectrum and is very conservative in his presentation, very accurate.

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01:36:30.000 Mike...

01:36:31.000 Where do you see this going?

01:36:33.000 I mean, I don't just see the neocons closing up their tents and shopping, leaving town like a pack of New World War Gypsies. 0.88

01:36:40.000 I mean, when you got Gary Hart writing letters to Iran saying, we staged terror attacks, you better watch it.

01:36:46.000 We've got Republican memos now confirmed flying around saying they need terror attacks.

01:36:50.000 You've got Hillary pro-war, the Democratic leadership pro-war.

01:36:54.000 Where do you see this going?

01:36:56.000 And then what are the different scenarios as they unravel?

01:37:00.000 Well, obviously we're seeing a huge faction fight begin to emerge within the upper levels of the federal government itself.

01:37:07.000 We have a large portion of the government realizes war with Iran would be a mistake because it's inevitably going to lead to war with Russia.

01:37:16.000 Which a lot of people prudently wish to avoid.

01:37:19.000 But you've got the true believers who are out there who still think we need to go into Iran. 0.72

01:37:23.000 They're still trying to follow the original PNAC plan of seven different wars of conquest in the Middle East.

01:37:30.000 You've got that faction that sees conquering and controlling all of the Middle East oil as the only way to save the U.S. 0.77

01:37:36.000 economy.

01:37:37.000 From imploding, and you've got all these factions fighting with each other.

01:37:41.000 I think the reason the NIE got released yesterday is that there's a larger and larger group within the government that says, this has gone on long enough that war with Iran will be the end of the United States, that we could lose it to the point of the destruction of the nation itself.

01:37:56.000 And I think the factionalization is just going to continue because there isn't any one voice That is speaking that the rest of the factions are going to listen to and say, okay, maybe there's a common cause because that's really kind of gone away.

01:38:09.000 Now, as far as the larger picture of globalism, as you know, I'm opposed to globalism because creating a globalist society, to me, is about as prudent as removing fireproof doors from a building or watertight bulkheads from a ship.

01:38:26.000 Nation states provide natural compartments to contain Economic and sociological disasters and if you have just one planet government What happens when a Hitler rises to power in that one planet government, as it inevitably, historically, will? 0.93

01:38:44.000 And, you know, you don't have the other nations around the world that act as a check and a balance on that sort of an individual.

01:38:52.000 As far as the New World Order itself, I think the people who are working towards it, whether it's George Bush Senior, I think it is merely the attainment of that goal is what drives them.

01:39:02.000 I don't know that they even really have any clear plan of what they're going to do with it.

01:39:06.000 Once they've got it, I see it a lot like Alexander the Great, who spent his entire life building a bigger and bigger empire.

01:39:12.000 In the instant he died, it fragmented and fell apart.

01:39:16.000 So, I'm sure that a lot of people who see themselves as a future leader of the New World Order, they all have a bunch of different ideas they want to try out.

01:39:25.000 But again, going back to the model of Rome, I see just the infighting continuing.

01:39:30.000 There'll be a Absolutely.

01:39:31.000 a mask and illusion of a unified global government, but within the halls of power, there'll be assassinations and faction fights.

01:39:40.000 Well, history shows that every time you build a giant empire, from the moment it's born, it starts dying.

01:39:47.000 Absolutely.

01:39:48.000 It starts to fragment and fall apart.

01:39:50.000 And one thing that we know is true in the modern technological age of the Internet, these processes happen much, much faster because the controlling factor has always been the speed with which the reality of their government spreads out to the people.

01:40:07.000 And obviously in medieval times, when a lot of people didn't even read and there was no printing, these kind of shenanigans could go on for a very, very long time.

01:40:14.000 Mike! 0.69

01:40:15.000 Mike! 0.69

01:40:15.000 Go ahead. 0.69

01:40:17.000 No, no, go ahead.

01:40:18.000 Well, no, no, finish your thought.

01:40:20.000 I was going to say, you know, even in the 1960s, because TV was controlled and there was no internet, it took, you know, 20, 30 years before people realized that John Kennedy was the victim of a government conspiracy, rather than just Lee Oswald.

01:40:33.000 And yet here, you know, today with the internet and alternative radio, the lies that got us into Iraq were exposed in mere months.

01:40:40.000 The lies getting us into Iran have been exposed even before the war starts.

01:40:45.000 And it's because of the pressure coming from the people who are aware that their government lies.

01:40:50.000 What about the 25% of the public or so?

01:40:53.000 40% is still dumbed down, but they know not to trust the government, 20% of them or so.

01:40:58.000 But of that 40%, and I'm looking at hundreds of different polls and kind of indexing them in my mind here with a dead reckoning, but the neocons have now got talking points.

01:41:08.000 We got these last year.

01:41:09.000 This is public.

01:41:09.000 Now they've got Glenn Beck.

01:41:10.000 Puts out a freedom message, then salts it with cyanide, you know, saying use troops to go after Ron Paul supporters, anti-war people.

01:41:18.000 Lou Rockwell, he's in bed with Al-Qaeda.

01:41:21.000 We now see this talking point. 0.81

01:41:24.000 Lots of bloggers, lots of well-known Republican operatives saying we're traitors, we're criminals.

01:41:29.000 The White House saying New York Times writers are traitors. 0.88

01:41:33.000 I mean, we're really seeing a talking point where, I guess, like cockroaches have been sprayed with poison. 0.99

01:41:38.000 They're trying to, you know, gobble and fornicate. 0.87

01:41:42.000 They are really, it seems, intending to just try to go ahead and at least have a domestic police state, and they're like throwing a fit now that people are waking up to them.

01:41:51.000 How do you see that unfolding?

01:41:54.000 I see it unfolding pretty much what happened in Romania is the model, where everybody is aware of what's going on, they're still being polite, they're still being quiet.

01:42:03.000 And, you know, we have a saying that we have overheard, WhatReallyHappened.com, which is the fastest way to bring down a dictator is to force them to act like one where everybody can see it.

01:42:12.000 And I think we're at that stage right now where, you know, they're just screaming, they're being reactive, they're saying these terrible things.

01:42:20.000 I don't, you know, I think the instant they try and actually implement this stuff, I think we're approaching the point where the American people are going to react, and it will be over in about two weeks, the same has happened in Romania.

01:42:32.000 If you go back two weeks before Ceaușescu was machine-gunned on Romanian television, People looking from the outside said, well, you know, he's got it, it's working, he's got TV cameras in every street corner, but the Romanians seem okay with that.

01:42:44.000 And then two weeks later, you know, he was dead, and people looked and said, well, I guess the Romanians weren't all that happy with what was going on.

01:42:50.000 Unbelievable.

01:42:52.000 How do you see that happening here?

01:42:54.000 Well, I just, you know, I see people, Mike, and we're going to your calls, who are still totally obsessed with the Cowboys versus the Redskins.

01:43:06.000 They're still totally obsessed with all these things that don't matter.

01:43:09.000 And by that, you can still watch football, folks.

01:43:13.000 You can still have, you know, little dalliances in your life.

01:43:18.000 But you've got to still know where the U.S.

01:43:20.000 is on a globe.

01:43:21.000 You've still got to know who the Vice President is.

01:43:22.000 You've still got to know what the Fourth Amendment is.

01:43:25.000 So we have a huge mass that still is kind of just tuned out.

01:43:29.000 And I mean, I'm literally every day losing sleep, freaked out, constantly talking about it with my friends and family and with lawyers and other people and experts.

01:43:37.000 And I'm thinking about it all the time, just how incredibly dangerous the times are because there's these little sections in time that so much happens.

01:43:47.000 Instead of, you know, you'll have 100 years of things being relatively stable and then stuff totally breaks loose.

01:43:52.000 We're clearly entering that time.

01:43:54.000 What would you say, Mike, to somebody driving along in their car?

01:43:57.000 I get their emails and calls just saying we're complete liars, the North American Union doesn't exist, the NAFTA highway doesn't exist when it's all over our local news and they're building it.

01:44:07.000 I mean, it just seems like there's two worlds.

01:44:08.000 There's those that are informed and then those that just are literally in la-la land.

01:44:13.000 What are they going to do as this continues to unravel?

01:44:16.000 Well, they're in denial, and my advice is don't waste time on them, because there's so few of them, is my experience.

01:44:22.000 You need to work together with the people who have woken up.

01:44:25.000 They're aware of what's going on, because you need to be talking with them.

01:44:28.000 And as you talk out in public, you're going to find those people who are sitting on the fence, so to speak, and they're going to say, yeah, I agree with you.

01:44:35.000 And they're going to come forward and start talking.

01:44:37.000 The ones who are totally in denial, the ones who are obviously, you know, FBI informants whose job it is to go around the society and scream traitor at people like us, you know, ignore them.

01:44:47.000 You know, it's a waste of time to talk with them and everything.

01:44:50.000 And you know, I'll share a story with you.

01:44:52.000 I have a I have a brother-in-law that we got together with him two nights ago because his daughter is out here serving on a Navy ship.

01:45:01.000 The last time I met with him before that, we ended up screaming at each other over Bush and his war in Iraq.

01:45:08.000 Two nights ago, he was pleasant, he's very obviously changed his mind, he's come on board, he understands what's going on.

01:45:15.000 So people are changing, and I don't think it's 20% out there who still think the President is doing a good job.

01:45:21.000 Those opinion polls are being just as dicked with as anything else coming out of the government.

01:45:28.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:45:29.000 I agree with you because the index of polls shows Congress between 11 and 12 points.

01:45:35.000 And Congress has never been universally hated.

01:45:38.000 And that's pretty much universal derision when it's at that level.

01:45:42.000 But again, the establishment isn't stopping.

01:45:45.000 I think they have that arrogant sickness that heights of power bring. 0.98

01:45:49.000 They're a bunch of megalomaniacs. 0.74

01:45:53.000 Mike, let me tell you, I think it's going to end up bad.

01:45:55.000 I mean, I know you think it's going to fall apart like Russia, and that's on the good end. 1.00

01:45:58.000 I think this could get... These people are... I mean, they could set off nukes next week!

01:46:02.000 These people are nuts! 1.00

01:46:04.000 Absolutely they are. 1.00

01:46:05.000 They're sociopaths.

01:46:06.000 I think the majority of people are so compromised they really can't exercise their own discretion anymore.

01:46:12.000 And there's no question we're going to see a crisis of some kind.

01:46:16.000 And what happens on the far side of that crisis, of course, is a matter of speculation.

01:46:21.000 You could very well be right.

01:46:23.000 I hope you're wrong with all due respect.

01:46:25.000 Well, I'm not even saying I'm right.

01:46:27.000 I'm saying that it's definitely in the cards.

01:46:30.000 It's possible.

01:46:32.000 Definitely, it's possible.

01:46:33.000 The potential is there.

01:46:35.000 But, you know, we are headed to a crisis.

01:46:36.000 I think we're getting into that end phase right now.

01:46:39.000 Where the government is starting to factionalize badly and openly in front of the public.

01:46:44.000 And you know the funny thing about government, in a lot of ways it's like a religion.

01:46:47.000 It relies on the blind faith and trust of the ruled masses.

01:46:52.000 And it's just like when the church started having to deal with all these child molestation cases.

01:46:57.000 And that confidence and trust began to falter.

01:46:59.000 Now we see the government openly caught lying.

01:47:02.000 It's fragmenting before us.

01:47:04.000 That trust and faith in the government as infallible is definitely gone.

01:47:11.000 And once you reach that stage, you know, the lifespan of that government is definitely short.

01:47:15.000 By the way, I mean, I hardly watch movies, but every movie I see, I'm kind of a science fiction addict, so I watch Children of Men, Transformers, you know, everything has an anti-government message in it now.

01:47:28.000 Well, yeah, Hollywood's finally coming on board, and it's really a case of making the movies that the audience wants to see.

01:47:35.000 As you know, they put out a lot of pro-war, pro-America, go-get-the-terrorist blockbusters last year that just absolutely failed at the box office, because people don't want to see that anymore.

01:47:45.000 They're tired of it.

01:47:46.000 And yeah, films with an anti-war message are definitely going to be big box office in the coming years, and if there are any motion picture producers who are listening to this, I am available as a technical consultant.

01:47:56.000 And you'll get your visual effects supervision thrown in for free.

01:48:00.000 Hey, Mike, I thought you didn't want to tell folks, you do some of the biggest TV shows out there.

01:48:05.000 Yeah, I've been working in film and TV visual effects for some 30 odd years now, and you can look me up on the Internet Movie Database.

01:48:14.000 Well, since you just said that, why not tell folks you do one of the biggest TV shows right now?

01:48:18.000 Yeah, I do visual effects on Lost, and unfortunately with the writer's strike, we're all on an enforced vacation right now.

01:48:26.000 But yeah, and it's a good crew, and I have a lot of fun on the show, and hopefully, you know, the writer's strike will be over, and we'll be back to finishing Season 4 very shortly.

01:48:35.000 But yeah, I produce and direct TV commercials here.

01:48:39.000 I work on movies and stuff.

01:48:41.000 And, you know, for the longest time, for a while there, I really was blacklisted out of the industry, but I've managed to start getting my career back, and I'm very grateful for it.

01:48:50.000 But at the same time, You know, as you say, these issues that we're dealing with in our society today, they must be dealt with.

01:48:57.000 And, you know, we have to confront that evil that has taken hold of our government at the highest levels.

01:49:04.000 And if we don't, if we don't, you know, then think of the world we're going to leave to our children.

01:49:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:49:11.000 Okay, I promise.

01:49:12.000 Giorgio, Leo, Jonathan, Joe, Jay, we're going to get to all of you right now.

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01:53:49.000 Giorgio, New York, you've been holding patiently.

01:53:52.000 You're on the air with Mike Rivera.

01:53:54.000 Hello, hello Alex.

01:53:55.000 Hi.

01:53:56.000 Pleasure to talk to you.

01:53:57.000 It's indeed an honor.

01:53:58.000 It's an honor to talk to you.

01:54:00.000 Thank you.

01:54:01.000 Just quickly, I've got three points.

01:54:03.000 One, I'm actually from Australia and I immigrated to New York four years ago.

01:54:07.000 I'm an acupuncturist and been working in the field for 16 years.

01:54:12.000 And in Australia, I also wanted to comment, I've watched Endgame and I've ordered five of those and five loose change and I buy Innafood and I support your products and your website as well.

01:54:23.000 Couldn't do it without you.

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01:54:24.000 Couldn't do it.

01:54:27.000 Talking about eugenics quickly, most people aren't aware, but in the 1920s in Australia, one of the English parliamentarians actually proclaimed in Parliament that they were trying to extinct the Aboriginal race, and he actually declared in Parliament that the Aboriginal race would be extinct by 1980.

01:54:47.000 I did run into that in my Research for Endgame, but just didn't have time to add it.

01:54:54.000 Right.

01:54:55.000 And what most people don't know is that they used to foster out the families for Aboriginal children for about 80 years and used to split the families up all over Australia.

01:55:06.000 And I happen to be one of the very few acupuncturists who was actually brought on a drug and alcohol rehabilitation program in a little town in Australia, and I actually worked on these people.

01:55:19.000 And what most people don't know is the English, about a hundred years ago, just used to pay the Aboriginals with rum. 0.87

01:55:27.000 Never actually let them integrate into society on purpose.

01:55:30.000 Well, that's a British policy that the US then picked up. 0.98

01:55:35.000 People said the Indians are a bunch of drunks. 0.99

01:55:36.000 That's how we'd pay them. 1.00

01:55:38.000 That's right.

01:55:39.000 The whole history...

01:55:42.000 Their grandfathers, great-grandfathers, they're brought up on that.

01:55:45.000 You know, I'd love you to send me some info, and maybe have you on as a guest.

01:55:49.000 Email it to Aaron at InfoWars.com.

01:55:51.000 But let me get a comment from Mike Rivera on this.

01:55:53.000 Mike?

01:55:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:55:55.000 When you have, you know, one group going in to invade another, yeah, they'll throw alcohol at them and then deride them as being drunk.

01:56:03.000 We saw that here in the Pacific when the Christian missionaries showed up in Tahiti.

01:56:09.000 You know, they got the king hooked on alcohol and converted him to Christianity and then incited wars against the neighboring, what are now French Polynesian islands.

01:56:18.000 And then what they did is they burned down all the breadfruit trees so that the locals would have to go to work on the plantations that the missionaries owned.

01:56:25.000 And you see this time and time again.

01:56:27.000 And one of the concerns I have about a new world global order is Which particular group is going to wind up in charge of it, and what will they be thinking of doing to the other ethnic groups now under their rule? 0.69

01:56:40.000 Because, you know, we know that environment and overpopulation is one of the issues that the global New World Order is going to be looking at, and, you know, population's always a problem because sex is so much more fun than dying, and how do they plan on dealing with this?

01:56:56.000 Yeah, well, the other thing is, you know, I don't want to take too much of your time, but it's so important, this information.

01:57:04.000 When I worked in the Drug and Alcohol Rehabilitation Center, they tried to detox these people, but then they would put them on, like, 20 other medications.

01:57:14.000 Well, 20's a bit exaggerated.

01:57:15.000 I'd say 5 or 6.

01:57:16.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:57:17.000 They'd put them on Valium, they'd put them on antipsychotics, psychotropics, antidepressants.

01:57:22.000 Stay there.

01:57:22.000 I'm going to let you finish up and we'll go to the other calls.

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01:57:34.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:49.000 Well, so does he.

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01:57:55.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:00.000 Into hour number three, and now I want to hurry and get to your calls.

01:58:03.000 I also want to talk to Mike about the former Italian Prime Minister going public, saying 9-11 is an inside job.

01:58:08.000 Huge story at PrisonPlanet.com.

01:58:11.000 I'm talking to George O, formerly from the land down under, now living in New York.

01:58:17.000 And sir, I was about to say 5, 6, 7, 8, the average Texas foster child is on 7 drugs.

01:58:22.000 That was in WOAI-TV Investigates last year.

01:58:26.000 That's the same average nationwide.

01:58:27.000 It's the same thing in New Zealand, Canada.

01:58:29.000 They even have the same names.

01:58:30.000 It's Head Start here, Secure Start in England, what's Smart Start in Australia.

01:58:38.000 I maybe get the names mixed up, but they all have similar names.

01:58:42.000 And they'll take you off alcohol and say marijuana, and I'm not saying alcohol isn't bad for you folks, and they'll put you on serotonin reuptake inhibitors whose molecules are more dangerous than cocaine and heroin.

01:58:56.000 Mike Rivero comments.

01:58:59.000 Well, basically it's just another way of pumping a lot of money into the pharmaceutical industries, and we've got this whole culture of fixing all the problems with a pill or a drug, which are all very expensive.

01:59:11.000 And we used to go through the same thing in California when they were trying to get the heroin addicts off of heroin by giving them methadone, which is actually more addictive.

01:59:19.000 And it was somehow okay because they were getting the drugs from the government and not from the criminals.

01:59:26.000 Well, you know where heroin came from. 0.93

01:59:27.000 They couldn't get the soldiers, the hundreds of thousands of amputees from the Civil War who got addicted to opium, to laudanum, but they learned that something ten times stronger, heroin, a derivative, and it was the cure drug for the opium.

01:59:43.000 Well, it's really all the same thing, and for a while, opium was legal in this country, and a lot of people don't know this, but the Skull and Bones fraternity at Yale University, which has spawned so many of our presidents, their funding was opium money funding, and it's probably no surprise that during Vietnam, we saw the CIA smuggling a lot of heroin back to the United States through here in Hawaii, Uh, to the west coast of the U.S.

02:00:06.000 And the CIA was founded predominantly out of Yale and Skull and Bones.

02:00:10.000 Thank you, uh, Giorgio.

02:00:11.000 I appreciate your call.

02:00:12.000 Send me info.

02:00:13.000 Leo and Matt, thanks for holding her on the air.

02:00:15.000 Uh, Mr. Rivera.

02:00:18.000 Yes, go ahead.

02:00:20.000 Are you a relative of the Rivera who wrote the book about the, uh, Jesuits' influence in Nazi Germany?

02:00:29.000 Not that I'm aware of, but you know, I assume at some level we're probably related because we've got the same name, but I'm not aware of a direct connection, no.

02:00:37.000 Anyway, my problem here is that I feel that we're not communicating properly.

02:00:43.000 As they say, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

02:00:47.000 And on the level of the individual to individual, the one-on-one, we have to be the serene ones.

02:00:53.000 I mean, I love Alex, you know, you jump out And you scream and you make a big fuss because, hey, that's you.

02:01:00.000 But in this world of friendly fascism, we have to be the cool, calm, selected ones who just ask a few little pointed questions and let the people who defend 9-11 go up in smoke and go ballistic.

02:01:14.000 You see, that's the game that's going on here.

02:01:17.000 If you go ballistic, You're out of the game.

02:01:20.000 Yeah, well, Leo, I appreciate your call.

02:01:23.000 And I'm always open for advice.

02:01:25.000 And, you know, what I've done on air, my personality is real.

02:01:29.000 And does that mean I'm perfect?

02:01:31.000 Does that mean I get everything right or cover everything properly?

02:01:31.000 Far from it.

02:01:34.000 No.

02:01:35.000 But I've actually done a pretty darn good job of getting people's attention.

02:01:38.000 And I've been pretty darn calm today.

02:01:42.000 And so it isn't about me, sir.

02:01:44.000 I mean, did you have the huevos to go on air on the day of the event like me and Mike did, and expose it as an inside job?

02:01:54.000 I mean, I don't mind being criticized, but I think you talk about solutions, Leo.

02:01:58.000 You're calling in with a solution that we need to be smooth and calm and whatever.

02:02:02.000 I think it's different strokes for different folks, and different things make the world go around, Mike.

02:02:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:02:08.000 I'm in agreement.

02:02:09.000 If you want a polished, smooth, calm performance, then go back to ABC, CNN, NBC, and Fox, and you'll get these very nicely coiffed and made-up talking heads who are very pleasant to look at, who will tell you things that are very pleasant to hear.

02:02:22.000 But the reality is that the world has become a very dark place, and people like Alex Jones are going to try to get that news out there, and the content is what's important, not the packaging.

02:02:33.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls on the other side with Mike Rivera, whatreallyhappened.com.

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02:05:43.000 Mainstream media.

02:05:45.000 Government cover-ups.

02:05:48.000 You want answers?

02:05:49.000 Well, so does he.

02:05:50.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:55.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:00.000 Michael will be with us another 15 minutes or so, and then I'm going to get into ex-Italian President, Intel Agencies, no, 9-11 was an inside job, top story on presentplanet.com, a bunch of other news I haven't even gotten to yet.

02:06:12.000 We just got another caller into the board of the network going, yes, Alex needs to be calm.

02:06:17.000 Folks, the economy is imploding.

02:06:19.000 The New World Order is out of control.

02:06:20.000 They're trying to start World War III.

02:06:23.000 I don't come on this show and try to have some angle or have some way I, you know, have a presentation.

02:06:30.000 Some days I'm very calm.

02:06:31.000 Some days I start yelling and screaming.

02:06:34.000 And I want to just ask this quick question to Mike Rivero.

02:06:36.000 Mike, I know you've written about and talked about the North American Union.

02:06:39.000 It's in official documents.

02:06:41.000 They're integrating the economies.

02:06:41.000 They're setting it up.

02:06:43.000 They did the Euro the same way.

02:06:45.000 And I start yelling and screaming when I play CNN clips where they say Ron Paul is insane and making up imaginary groups.

02:06:51.000 And they say there's no trans-Texas corridor.

02:06:54.000 When Perry passed the law, the legislature repealed it.

02:06:56.000 They're still building it.

02:06:58.000 It's called that at huge press conferences.

02:07:00.000 I mean, they're now getting to a level of lying I've never seen any.

02:07:05.000 I get mad about that, Mike.

02:07:07.000 Yeah, I think anger and rage are appropriate reactions right now, and I've written before, everyone says, ooh, hate is bad, hate is bad.

02:07:15.000 Yeah, sometimes hate can be bad, but sometimes hate is the appropriate reaction to those individuals and those institutions who are doing hateful things.

02:07:23.000 And, you know, I'm wondering if this caller or these callers who are saying that we should be calm and I'm wondering if they're calling up Michael Savage to try and get him to tone down his attacks on Muslims?

02:07:34.000 Or if they're calling CNN, who are out there calling the bloggers traitors?

02:07:40.000 Why are we the ones who are supposed to be calm and sedate?

02:07:45.000 And is it really just a way to try and get us to attract less notice of the mainstream media that's about to be yelling and screaming?

02:07:51.000 I was about to say that, and I've even seen memos on this from political parties, for 50 years they've taught us to be quiet, be calm, don't fight city hall, don't talk about politics or religion, don't talk to your neighbors, it's not polite and polite company.

02:08:06.000 America, and any other free Renaissance nation, Was formed out of people at stumps and arguments and discussions. 0.62

02:08:13.000 And the football was the news and the politics.

02:08:16.000 That's what people were into.

02:08:19.000 And they tell people, don't have dirty campaigns.

02:08:21.000 Don't bring up dirt on the other candidate.

02:08:23.000 Be nice.

02:08:24.000 That's how you win.

02:08:25.000 But when you actually read the internal memos, it's go as nasty as possible while attacking them if they get nasty.

02:08:31.000 See, so I, yeah, exactly.

02:08:34.000 Yeah, it's a way of trying to get us out of the discussion at a time when definitely the hysteria in the mainstream media is on the rise.

02:08:42.000 Yeah, but I don't think those guys were agents or anything.

02:08:44.000 I think they're just regurgitating what they've heard.

02:08:46.000 But again, different strokes for different folks.

02:08:48.000 It's kind of a distraction.

02:08:50.000 Jonathan in Denver, you're on the air.

02:08:51.000 Go ahead.

02:08:53.000 Alex, how's it going?

02:08:55.000 Good, sir.

02:08:56.000 A long-time listener, first-time caller.

02:08:58.000 I just wanted to say, that guy who just called, he needs to wake up.

02:09:02.000 I'm out of Denver, Colorado.

02:09:03.000 I'm with We Are Change Colorado.

02:09:04.000 You know, we're being nice.

02:09:06.000 I think these guys should be confronted on a daily basis.

02:09:10.000 I think they should be confronted 24-7 when they're eating outside of their homes.

02:09:15.000 You know, the thing is, they're spin artists.

02:09:19.000 I was recently pulled out of Boulder University.

02:09:22.000 You actually talked about it last Friday.

02:09:24.000 We confronted John Ashcroft in Boulder, and I stood up.

02:09:29.000 They said, we have time for one more question.

02:09:30.000 I stood up and started talking about Sabel Edmonds, and I was immediately hauled out of there, and I was very polite.

02:09:37.000 In fact, all of our questions were very kind, and this guy basically didn't answer any of the questions.

02:09:42.000 He spun the issue.

02:09:43.000 He cracked jokes at us.

02:09:45.000 He was very reckless. 1.00

02:09:46.000 He was incompetent. 0.95

02:09:48.000 And this is the truth. 0.99

02:09:49.000 We need to wake up to the reality that these guys are crooks.

02:09:52.000 And by the way, Jonathan, you were like 15 seconds into your question.

02:09:56.000 They were already dragging you out.

02:09:58.000 That video is up on Prison Planet right now.

02:10:01.000 We played the audio last week.

02:10:03.000 And his whole speech, by the way, was... Talk about that.

02:10:06.000 It was cryptic police state pushing. 0.99

02:10:08.000 Oh, he was nuts. 1.00

02:10:10.000 He was nuts. 1.00

02:10:10.000 He was spinning it so... First of all, he was talking about how Abu Ghraib and torturing prisoners was some kind of act of humanity. 1.00

02:10:18.000 And that if we don't do that, that that's barbaric?

02:10:21.000 I mean, it was such a spin.

02:10:23.000 And it was actually, to be honest with you, he was starting to scare the audience.

02:10:28.000 Most people, and I think even his supporters, Alex, were a little worried.

02:10:32.000 Because he was freaking everybody out.

02:10:36.000 Let me stop you, because I watched the speech, and we should have done an article just about that, not just about you confronting him, because that's the news.

02:10:41.000 I mean, you confronting him was great, too, and good job.

02:10:44.000 But I mean, I've heard you call it into another show, and the point you made is true, that the bigger issue is what he was saying.

02:10:44.000 Gold star there.

02:10:51.000 But it seems, Mike, I'm not just saying this.

02:10:53.000 I'm usually pessimistic, because I like to err on the bad side, to not be over-optimistic.

02:10:58.000 But it does seem like they're getting scared.

02:11:00.000 They're even saying, well, nobody listens to us anymore.

02:11:03.000 They think we're liars. 0.99

02:11:04.000 They're traitors! 0.99

02:11:05.000 Arrest them! 1.00

02:11:06.000 Torture! 1.00

02:11:06.000 Kill! 1.00

02:11:07.000 I mean, Mike, it does seem like they're going crazy. 0.98

02:11:10.000 Yeah, the panic is palpable.

02:11:12.000 And, you know, there's a lot of desperation.

02:11:14.000 And as I've observed about Bush's reaction to the intelligence estimate, he's not following any carefully thought out plan.

02:11:21.000 He's in knee-jerk mode.

02:11:22.000 As each new piece of disinformation gets exposed, You know, it's false.

02:11:28.000 They're in league with the enemy.

02:11:29.000 They're doing what they're doing.

02:11:30.000 They're totally reactive right now, and totally defensive.

02:11:33.000 And it's a dangerous time, but at the same time, it does show that their power and influence is on the wane.

02:11:38.000 And every major neocon show, liberal shows, Fox, CNN, they're all saying, arrest these we are changers.

02:11:45.000 Other people, they're confronting Hillary. 0.96

02:11:47.000 Taser them, beat them to pulps.

02:11:48.000 They shouldn't be allowed to ask questions. 0.85

02:11:50.000 And that was on Fox.

02:11:51.000 I mean, they, and then they do, they act scared!

02:11:54.000 Because they know that Ceausescu thing, but in a peaceful info war, is happening.

02:11:59.000 We're gilling out of the web now and hitting the streets.

02:12:02.000 Yeah, it is breaking out of the internet and, you know, we're capturing a lion's share of the viewership for political news right now.

02:12:10.000 The mainstream media, the corporate networks, have lost the high ground in the war for the minds of America.

02:12:15.000 And by the way, it's not hard.

02:12:17.000 I mean, we see the major, biggest Italian newspaper and TV reporting that the former president, highly respected, went public and said, our government staged terror attacks in Italy before, and we staged 9-11.

02:12:28.000 That's not hard.

02:12:29.000 That's big news.

02:12:30.000 I'm just reporting on huge European news.

02:12:32.000 Of course I'm going to get visitors.

02:12:34.000 Of course WhatReallyHappened.com is going to get visitors.

02:12:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:12:38.000 We're carrying this news.

02:12:39.000 The foreign press has really been telling a lot of things that Americans need to know about.

02:12:43.000 And again, as I pointed out earlier in the show, BBC is running the story about the new intelligence estimate on Iran.

02:12:49.000 They're playing it with all these videotapes of Bush and Cheney from two months ago, screaming that Iran was still building nuclear weapons, just underscoring that it's another lie.

02:12:58.000 Turn over to CNN and what do you see?

02:13:00.000 Miss Puerto Rico may or may not have been pepper sprayed. 0.65

02:13:03.000 Obviously, the American mainstream news is still trying to keep this stuff from the American people.

02:13:08.000 But they keep hemorrhaging MarketShare, but they can't help it!

02:13:12.000 I've got a question for you.

02:13:13.000 The owners are telling them, just keep selling it.

02:13:15.000 Do you remember the movie Network?

02:13:17.000 Yeah, hold on, Jonathan.

02:13:18.000 Go ahead and finish, Mike.

02:13:19.000 Yeah, you remember the movie Network?

02:13:21.000 Yes.

02:13:21.000 Where the corporation that bought the TV network said, keep pushing this out.

02:13:25.000 I don't care if you're losing advertising revenues in MarketShare.

02:13:27.000 Keep pushing it out.

02:13:28.000 It's the same situation.

02:13:29.000 The owners of the media are Using it for propaganda, and they don't care if they're losing market share, and they're just destroying the networks in the process.

02:13:38.000 And it's just going to continue until they collapse.

02:13:41.000 Okay, go ahead, Jonathan.

02:13:43.000 Mike, it's good to hear you speak.

02:13:45.000 I go to whatreallyhappened.com all the time.

02:13:48.000 We're working on a film out here in Colorado.

02:13:50.000 Actually, I was just on the phone with Jason Burmas a couple of weeks ago.

02:13:54.000 We have Sandra Hicks out here for some interviews and David Rick Griffin, and we're trying to expose

02:14:00.000 uh... these guys right now and uh... what do you guys think about the nato what do you think about quality i g and employees whistleblowers of some of these uh... these what prepared to be to me shell company cia shell companies these guys no question in my mind these guys are operational hands in nine eleven they're still you know running free these are the perpetrators the criminals behind nine eleven they're running free nobody's called prosecuting them and uh...

02:14:28.000 Can we start to confront these guys?

02:14:29.000 Do we have to be worried about anything?

02:14:30.000 Because these guys are...

02:14:31.000 All right, I'm going to jump.

02:14:32.000 I'm going to jump here.

02:14:33.000 I've got to go to some other callers.

02:14:34.000 I want to give Mike a chance to respond to that.

02:14:36.000 But I'll just say the greater danger is in doing nothing and letting them dominate and feed and rule over us and keep killing us.

02:14:44.000 Is there a danger, a heroic danger?

02:14:46.000 Why, who wouldn't want to take that to confronting them?

02:14:49.000 I guess there's some, but there's a greater danger overall in not.

02:14:52.000 I want to be alive.

02:14:53.000 I want to be in the arena.

02:14:54.000 I'm only alive once.

02:14:56.000 History only happens, you know, big things every once in a while.

02:14:58.000 We're living in the middle of this right now, so I say throw caution to the wind, Mike.

02:15:03.000 I would agree on that.

02:15:04.000 Yes, there's a risk, but you know, there are so many people out there doing this confrontation and getting in their faces.

02:15:09.000 They can't arrest us all, and every time they do, every time they harass another person and they make another martyr on the internet, it only makes them look worse.

02:15:17.000 The fastest way to bring down a dictator is to get him, to force him to act like one where everybody can see it, and that's what's happening right now.

02:15:24.000 Let's take another call.

02:15:25.000 Joe in PA.

02:15:26.000 Go ahead, Joe.

02:15:26.000 You're on the air.

02:15:29.000 I'm really glad I called in today because going back to the subject of the economy and all that, the Reagan guy you had on there?

02:15:37.000 Yeah, Paul Gregg Roberts.

02:15:38.000 Have you ever heard of, he's an ex-Illuminati guy, Leo Zagami?

02:15:43.000 You know, I stick with one of the top ten economists alive.

02:15:46.000 I stick to guys with little devil goatees telling me they comb their hair like devil horns.

02:15:52.000 I'm not knocking that guy, but yeah, I've looked into all that stuff.

02:15:57.000 There's a dime a dozen people that tell you they were in the Illuminati and they've got the secret handshake.

02:16:02.000 Regardless, I try to stick to the things I can prove.

02:16:05.000 But go ahead and make your point.

02:16:07.000 Well, I was listening to him talk like he was exposing something, and what I found interesting was That he was talking about how he was the next guy and he got out.

02:16:15.000 And one of the reasons was, you know that pyramid thing they got the higher up you go?

02:16:20.000 He said the higher ups are starting to freak out now because America's falling and all this stuff.

02:16:25.000 And they said they don't know how they're going to handle it because everything's going to crash.

02:16:30.000 And they don't know what they're doing.

02:16:31.000 But what caught my eye this morning, I was listening to Fox News and they were talking about the real estate market and how hot it was down in Florida.

02:16:41.000 Not for the people that live here, but for the foreign investors and the people with the Euros and China and Russia are going to buy up the properties and everything.

02:16:50.000 And I'm thinking like, you know, our country is being sold.

02:16:55.000 The powers that be, our country is going down for us here in the United States, but the One that are going to buy it up, or you know, they're the ones that have the Euros up there, and they're buying it, so... No, no, this was all engineered, and I appreciate your call.

02:17:09.000 Mike, let me give you one more segment so we can talk to Jay, John, and Paul.

02:17:13.000 Okay.

02:17:13.000 Okay, just one more segment with Michael Rivera.

02:17:15.000 I'll let him comment on what the last caller was saying.

02:17:19.000 Look, I don't know about rumors.

02:17:20.000 I know what the news is reporting.

02:17:22.000 And I know pretty high-powered folks here in Austin who represent people worth billions of dollars.

02:17:27.000 They've all left the country.

02:17:29.000 Okay, I mean, I'm not joking.

02:17:31.000 The money is acting like this country isn't going to be here.

02:17:34.000 And they're freaked out, so that is accurate.

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02:21:37.000 I've got a stack of news I'm going to at least get into a little bit in the next segment.

02:21:47.000 And of course it will continue with your phone calls, Aaron and Adam and Paul.

02:21:50.000 Folks will not be able to get to you right now with Mike Rivera, but I'm going to get to Jay in Hawaii where Mike's there and maybe even John before we leave with Mike.

02:21:59.000 But Mike, I wanted to bring up this article to you.

02:22:03.000 Ex-Italian President, Intel Knows 9-11 Inside Job, Man Who Blew The Whistle On Operation Gladio Tells Italy's Largest Newspaper Attacks Were Run By CIA Mossad.

02:22:14.000 It's a big, long article.

02:22:15.000 My wife speaks Italian.

02:22:16.000 We're trying to translate it all out.

02:22:18.000 But it's pretty big news over there right now.

02:22:20.000 Quite a few news articles about the interview he did two days ago.

02:22:24.000 Saying it's a false flag inside job and then going through how our government staged attacks there in the 70s into 1980.

02:22:30.000 He was the head of intelligence, then later exposed that.

02:22:33.000 Then of course he was the longest serving president in Italy, where they seem to have a new one every month or two.

02:22:37.000 He was president for seven years.

02:22:39.000 Longest serving after Mussolini.

02:22:41.000 That's a pretty big deal, isn't it Mike?

02:22:43.000 Yeah, it absolutely is.

02:22:45.000 And you also need to go back and remember that it was the Italian Parliament who investigated those forged documents about the Niger uranium sales to Iraq and exposed Michael Ledeen as one of the forgers.

02:22:57.000 So they've really been kind of digging into this stuff.

02:23:00.000 And again, in the foreign press, that 9-11 was an inside job has really been around for quite some time.

02:23:07.000 And it's getting hard to find anybody who really still believes the official story about 9-11.

02:23:12.000 And, you know, I know there's a lot of people who are saying, we've got to get the government to admit that they lied.

02:23:16.000 You know, I don't need that to happen.

02:23:19.000 I know what happened.

02:23:20.000 You know what happened.

02:23:20.000 If the government wants to continue marginalizing and trivializing itself by sticking to their... I've got to watch my language on this radio... but to their story about what happened on 9-11, go ahead and let them do it.

02:23:32.000 Their credibility is already shot.

02:23:34.000 But we know what happened on 9-11.

02:23:36.000 We don't need the government to confirm what we already know.

02:23:40.000 They don't matter anymore.

02:23:41.000 We caught them in yet another lie about Iran. 0.93

02:23:44.000 What they say about 9-11 doesn't matter anymore.

02:23:47.000 We know the truth.

02:23:48.000 And the key to exposing false flag terror is it takes that tool out of their arsenal of problem, reaction, solution of false flag, false inflicted, self-inflicted wounds, and it breaks it.

02:24:00.000 It destroys that tool they've always been able to use in staging terror attacks.

02:24:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:24:06.000 And the government, it's not just terror attacks, the government is always manufacturing the enemies that we are supposed to give them money and our obedience to solve.

02:24:14.000 Whether it's the Red Menace in the 1950s, whether it's the War on Terror, the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, or Global Warming, it is always a case of the government creating the things that we are supposed to be afraid of and rely on the government to save us from.

02:24:29.000 Absolutely.

02:24:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jay in Hawaii, here on the air.

02:24:36.000 Alex, about the 1,500 trillion debt bubble crisis?

02:24:41.000 Yes.

02:24:42.000 The New World Order predatory system of selectively enforced regulation, I think that's what's killing America.

02:24:49.000 Here's one example.

02:24:51.000 I went to the state offices to try to get a permit to grow the industrial superfood hemp in my large acre backyard, and they laughed in my face every time.

02:25:02.000 Yeah, there's no THC in it.

02:25:03.000 It's better than cotton, better for biofuels.

02:25:07.000 It's a magic, magic crop and we just can't have it.

02:25:10.000 Yeah, the New World Order has killed our freedom to produce.

02:25:15.000 I mean, I can't even get a permit to do it.

02:25:18.000 Here's an example of that.

02:25:19.000 I want to get Mike's take on this and I'll hold you over if you need to, Jay.

02:25:22.000 They can't get the animal ID enforced in the Premises Society.

02:25:25.000 When you voluntarily sign up, you waive all your rights.

02:25:28.000 You're now under criminal regulatory control and thousands of dollars a year in premises tags.

02:25:33.000 And they're just telling all the 4-H clubs and other clubs, you've got to have it to show your cows.

02:25:38.000 And so everybody's signing up when it's not even a law.

02:25:43.000 Hemp is also a super food source, and we could produce enough of it to reduce the cost of energy and food worldwide, but the New World Order won't let us do it.

02:25:53.000 Let me get Mike's final comment on that.

02:25:56.000 Well, basically, there's a great deal of enforcement over what products you will buy, and of course, the goal of any governmental structure is to make you not self-reliant, where you will go out and you will participate in commerce by buying what you need rather than growing what you need, because if you're growing something, if you're making something, if you're cooking something, then you're not paying for it, and there's no tax opportunity there.

02:26:17.000 And government is so desperate for money.

02:26:20.000 That's why they created the service economy, so they could charge us taxes while we do each other's laundry for a fee, instead of doing our own laundry and not paying the taxes on it. 0.99

02:26:29.000 So it's not really even about the hemp anymore, it is about enforcing people to have to pay money for everything that they do in life, so that there's an opportunity for taxation occurring.

02:26:39.000 Mike Rivera, WhatReallyHappened.com, doing a great job.

02:26:42.000 You do a Saturday morning two-hour transmission right here.

02:26:47.000 on the network, and we are so honored to have you here, part of the Genesis Network, and just have a good rest of the week, and bon voyage, my friend.

02:26:58.000 Well, thank you, Alex, and thank you for all your support, and have a happy holiday.

02:27:01.000 Thank you.

02:27:02.000 You too, my friend.

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02:27:07.000 Anything else, Jay?

02:27:08.000 Oh, yeah.

02:27:09.000 The New World Order, that's how they get us.

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02:33:29.000 I want to stop World War III. 0.94

02:33:30.000 I want to stop the destruction of the dollar.

02:33:32.000 And we're having an effect.

02:33:34.000 You are having an effect.

02:33:36.000 Going back to Jay in Hawaii, you were making a great point about how they control the means of production.

02:33:41.000 Go ahead.

02:33:42.000 Yeah, the New World Order has created the predatory system of selectively enforced regulation. 0.88

02:33:48.000 They purchase all the production companies and restrict everything else.

02:33:52.000 And um, like you said Alex, the New World Order has created a system of wealth the size of a football field, and the world is the postage stamp.

02:34:00.000 And right now, they're looking at the postage stamp with lust and envy, and they're licking their lips.

02:34:05.000 And now they've already blown out the football field, now they're thinking, just go ahead and blow apart the postage stamp too.

02:34:12.000 And if... But that's an analogy I've been using the last few days.

02:34:16.000 It's actually, in the aggregate, bigger than a football field compared 50 by 100 yards.

02:34:20.000 It's actually bigger than that.

02:34:21.000 100 yards, it's actually bigger than that.

02:34:26.000 When you've got $1,500 trillion in just derivatives, and our whole federal budget is $1.8 trillion a year, when you talk about the fiat wealth the globalists have created to buy up water districts, power plants, roads, educational systems, intellectual properties, educational systems, intellectual properties, all the real wealth in the world isn't even a fly on the hind end of an elephant compared to these people, but again, all that fiat is worthless.

02:34:54.000 It only has value to buy up real assets.

02:34:57.000 Yeah, they created it out of nothing.

02:35:01.000 That's how they get us.

02:35:02.000 First, they have to kill our internal production before they blow out the economy. 0.98

02:35:08.000 And that's why they do that economically in the West.

02:35:11.000 But the 60-something rogue nations out of the 180 nations that are on the planet or so...

02:35:17.000 It's always fluctuating.

02:35:18.000 New nations fall, new ones rise, you know, things change.

02:35:21.000 But Serbia, Iran, Iraq, Libya, good, bad, and different. 0.77

02:35:26.000 I'm not defending those governments.

02:35:27.000 The point is they're sovereign, they have their own factories, their own industries, and the actual globalist reports, the Royal Institute of International Affairs put out reports, the Royal Commission on Population put out by the British government, 44 to 49, says we want to de-industrialize an enslaved nation so they can't challenge our global hegemony. 0.54

02:35:47.000 Yeah, if we still had internal production, it wouldn't matter if they blew out the bubble to the size of the universe.

02:35:55.000 They've got to kill the ability of local farmers or basically anyone to produce what they want. 0.98

02:36:02.000 And that's what the National Premise Society and Animal ID does.

02:36:06.000 We've gotten our own documents out of the big industries that want to shut us off.

02:36:11.000 They say it's to knock out the family farm.

02:36:13.000 Yeah, I heard you talking months ago about how you were at a meeting and there was a bunch of farmers with their guns saying, hey, you may be saying this, but I'm ready to fight with my gun.

02:36:21.000 But, I mean, hopefully they resist if it ever comes to that, but I see all the liberals out there talking about how they hate deforestation.

02:36:28.000 Well, hemp can also be turned into lumber.

02:36:32.000 If our freedom to produce was restored, I mean, we could produce enough lumber for the whole world and stop deforestation, but... I hear you.

02:36:38.000 I gotta jump.

02:36:39.000 Good points, Jay.

02:36:40.000 John in Louisiana, you're on the air.

02:36:45.000 It says LA, or is that Los Angeles?

02:36:47.000 Okay, go ahead, John.

02:36:49.000 I wanted to see what your take was on... I mean, I've heard you talk about this plenty of times before, but, you know, the media is still trying to maintain the right-left paradigm.

02:37:02.000 That's why they don't want Ron Paul to be able to voice his opinion, because they don't want a Republican who's anti-war and anti-Federal Reserve.

02:37:10.000 And so they try to keep us fighting in the left and right where there's no real difference, yes.

02:37:15.000 Yeah, so, I mean, when you're watching the debates, you know, Anderson Cooper is going to, of course, ignore, you know, Ron Paul, and they make sure that he gets the least amount of time so he doesn't get his message out.

02:37:32.000 Every debate, yes.

02:37:33.000 Every single debate.

02:37:34.000 How obvious does it have to get?

02:37:37.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:37:38.000 I just posted on the Prison Planet Forum an article Joseph Stiglitz... Yes, former Chief Economist, World Bank.

02:37:50.000 Right.

02:37:50.000 He just put out an article in the December issue of Vanity Fair.

02:37:53.000 Did you see that?

02:37:54.000 No, I didn't.

02:37:55.000 So I just posted that up there.

02:37:58.000 But he kind of blames the Bush administration for You know, economy.

02:38:05.000 How long have you been listening to the show?

02:38:08.000 I've been listening for four years.

02:38:10.000 Then you've heard me over and over again say that they plan to blame Bush for it all.

02:38:15.000 Yeah.

02:38:15.000 Oh yeah.

02:38:16.000 And this is the global consolidation, then we would take the blame.

02:38:19.000 I said before the war, everything was going to happen.

02:38:22.000 Because the globalists have stated it all.

02:38:22.000 Why?

02:38:24.000 I mean, I'm only repeating what they said.

02:38:26.000 Yeah.

02:38:26.000 And so our name dies, our currency dies, our country falls apart, and then the globalists just move forward.

02:38:33.000 Absolutely.

02:38:34.000 Can I ask you one more question?

02:38:35.000 Sure.

02:38:37.000 City group.

02:38:40.000 Yeah, they have 70 plus trillion in derivatives.

02:38:45.000 Okay.

02:38:47.000 Even people in our movement still seem to believe that the Rockefellers have some You know, monetary interest in that?

02:38:56.000 They're going to get out clean from that collapsing.

02:38:58.000 They want it to collapse.

02:38:59.000 Yeah, I mean, we oversimplify when we say Rothschilds and Rockefellers.

02:39:02.000 They are the progenitors. 0.81

02:39:03.000 They're the big dogs.

02:39:04.000 They're the ones that set the game 100 years ago.

02:39:07.000 They still own large portions of it, but it's so puffed out to the millionth degree, like the last caller said, to the universe, I mean, to infinity, that it's all now just complete la-la land.

02:39:19.000 Right, exactly.

02:39:22.000 I would say just one more suggestion for the listeners.

02:39:26.000 I think a good book to read is America's Great Depression by Murray Rothbard.

02:39:32.000 I've heard that's a really informative book.

02:39:34.000 Yeah, so anyways, I love what you do, sir.

02:39:36.000 I appreciate you.

02:39:37.000 Thank you, my friend.

02:39:39.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Adam in Boston.

02:39:41.000 Adam, you're on the air worldwide.

02:39:43.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

02:39:44.000 Thanks for taking this call from me here.

02:39:49.000 I just wanted to talk about some realizations I came upon when I was doing some research for this documentary I'm making called Global Warming and the Imperial Corporatocracy.

02:39:58.000 As we all know, since the Major mandating a Mesopotamian area post-World War II, the British had had a serious monopoly of control when it comes to oil concession and the companies that had a stake.

02:40:08.000 The Americans, however, had a bit of difficulty getting a piece of the action.

02:40:12.000 Only until roughly late 40s, early 50s did the Americans manage to get a piece of the action.

02:40:19.000 When Kassim came into power and threw out the British-controlled monarchy and it really messed up everything for the five major oil companies, they no longer had that complete monopoly on the oil concessions.

02:40:32.000 Enter America and the installment of Hussein and the Baathist Party via America, British-influenced big companies had to start looking somewhere else for oil concessions, but the Americans realized that if they can keep all the oil bought and sold in the dollar, they can maintain a different kind of monopoly. 0.86

02:40:53.000 A monopoly that British interests didn't have access to because of their currency.

02:40:57.000 Yeah, but the British and U.S.

02:40:59.000 interests are inseparable.

02:41:00.000 It's not the Bretton Woods Agreement.

02:41:01.000 I know, I know.

02:41:02.000 Traditionally thinking, we do look at it as inseparable, but at the same time, when you look further on, you can actually see almost like there's a rivalry here as far as who's going to have a majority of the power in the 21st century coming up here.

02:41:15.000 Yeah, they're joined at the hip.

02:41:17.000 It's the U.S. 0.61

02:41:18.000 and England elites against the people against the world, and then you've got a few other power blocs, but they're all infiltrated.

02:41:23.000 What are you reading from?

02:41:25.000 Uh, what am I reading from?

02:41:26.000 This is, uh, as far as what am I reading from right now, I, I did a little transcript for this, uh, call, that way I didn't stumble, but as far as what the information, the, the, uh, the information that I'm getting this from, it's a, it's a, it's a bunch of different information.

02:41:39.000 Well, no, I mean, that's accurate info.

02:41:40.000 I'm just, okay, let me just, let me just go ahead.

02:41:42.000 Okay.

02:41:42.000 So essentially, so after America, we install Hussein and, uh, all the other companies start to have, look, having to look elsewhere for the oil.

02:41:52.000 So the British wasn't able to create the monopoly that America has now via the currency control of the oil, and this is why America has a big stake in Mesopotamia in modern times, and why in 1990 we went physically into Iraq, because he wanted to switch to the Euro, thus threatening our international dollar hegemony.

02:42:11.000 A lot of us know this, and a lot of us don't really pay attention to it.

02:42:16.000 I'm going to let you go.

02:42:17.000 Thanks for the call.

02:42:18.000 I just can't let you read a book on air.

02:42:21.000 You got that a little bit wrong there.

02:42:23.000 But it's interesting, and a lot of it's accurate.

02:42:25.000 None of this is debated.

02:42:27.000 This is all just public knowledge.

02:42:29.000 Saddam was talking about switching to the Euro in 2004.

02:42:33.000 In 2002 and 2003 he was talking about it, as much as the world has been doing.

02:42:39.000 And so part of the reason to go in was to control and dominate oil interest.

02:42:43.000 But you have the Anglo-American establishment really joined together in that.

02:42:48.000 And then it's pretty much inseparable from Europe as well.

02:42:52.000 So, Saddam Hussein was installed by our government.

02:42:55.000 He was over-pumping in 1990, according to OPEC, and driving down prices to $0.85, $0.90 a gallon for 87 octane.

02:43:04.000 And that's why they got upset in the media.

02:43:07.000 That's why the culture got upset.

02:43:08.000 That's why the monopoly culture got mad.

02:43:13.000 Saddam was trying to pay off his international loans that he'd been financed and given to invade Iran, attack Iran. 0.61

02:43:18.000 Over a million-plus people died in that eight-year war.

02:43:21.000 So you've just got some of your dates mixed up there, Bubba.

02:43:24.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Aaron in New York.

02:43:26.000 Aaron, go ahead.

02:43:29.000 Hello?

02:43:30.000 Yes, go ahead.

02:43:31.000 Hi, Alex.

02:43:32.000 This is Aaron.

02:43:33.000 Welcome.

02:43:33.000 I actually just started listening to your program a few weeks ago, although I think I'm one of those people who kind of always knew something was wrong, and you just didn't know how wrong until I actually got turned on to your program by going to your friend Kevin Booth's website and Secret Cow, and he's got his documentary coming out about and you just didn't know how wrong until I actually got turned on to AmericanDrugWar.com, yeah.

02:43:54.000 Yep, exactly.

02:43:54.000 And really, I even got turned on to Kevin Booth because I'm a big, long-time Bill Hicks fan, and I think I was one of those people who was expecting to see, all right, you know, who's this kook Alex Jones, and, you know, what's he doing with Kevin Booth here?

02:44:09.000 And then I started looking at your site, joined Prison Planet, It's literally a red pill.

02:44:14.000 If somebody will just take the red pill, if you'll just look on your own.

02:44:16.000 Don't believe me.

02:44:17.000 If you just look into it yourself.

02:44:18.000 Now the government is trying to put out a background of kooks and nuts and Bigfoot and chupacabras.

02:44:22.000 We're not doing that.

02:44:23.000 Yeah, it's literally a red pill.

02:44:26.000 If somebody will just take the red pill, if you'll just look on your own, don't believe me, if you just look into it yourself.

02:44:32.000 Now, the government's trying to put out a background of kooks and nuts and Bigfoot and chupacabras.

02:44:37.000 We're not doing that.

02:44:38.000 We're covering real issues.

02:44:39.000 Yep, yep, exactly.

02:44:41.000 So that's where I guess this is going along the lines of trying to get other people to take the red pill and and wake up is really if you put the information in front of them, it's going to shock them.

02:44:51.000 I mean, you definitely can't expect people to go, okay, you know, and just take away a lot of wisdom.

02:44:55.000 But isn't it better to be shocked than when you, once you know, you're like, you ever been like sitting on a chair and then you move the chair and a big huge spider runs out from under it?

02:45:04.000 And you're like, oh my gosh, that spider is scary, but I'm sure glad I know that it was under there now.

02:45:08.000 One thing I was sitting on a bench on my grandmother's front porch, and then somehow the chair got turned over and there was a giant black widow underneath it. 1.00

02:45:17.000 And I went, oh man, I mean, it's scary to know it was there, but aren't you glad you now know it's there?

02:45:22.000 Exactly.

02:45:23.000 And the one thing it does for me, because I'm one of those people who's a long-time watcher of, you know, History Channel and, uh...

02:45:29.000 And Discovery Channel and all that stuff.

02:45:31.000 And now when I go back and watch some of the documentaries I had seen previously, like I had seen their smear piece on the 9-11 truth movement and started buying into it, and the loose change people look like absolute kooks.

02:45:43.000 But now that I've gone and watched their program and re-watched that documentary, you can see how everything is just slanted, and they only point out the one part of the documentary, the second edition of Loose Change, where they show the squibs. 0.95

02:45:56.000 But they also misrepresent.

02:45:58.000 They build straw men.

02:46:00.000 And look, they took the video.

02:46:01.000 They shot here for days, shot there for days, and then they just put a few minutes of us in.

02:46:06.000 And they would take the video, blow out the color correction where my skin looked like I have hepatitis.

02:46:11.000 I don't have hepatitis, folks.

02:46:12.000 People always mistake what I say.

02:46:13.000 It looks like I did yellow skin.

02:46:15.000 They would take the video and stretch it out so that my head looked like 100 pounds heavier.

02:46:21.000 They did that to Dylan where he looked like some kind of white flounder.

02:46:24.000 And I mean, they pulled out every trick in the book on that.

02:46:29.000 Exactly, and I guess I have a couple things I want to try and cover here.

02:46:33.000 Real fast, we're almost out of time.

02:46:35.000 Okay, real quick, I'll get to this last one here.

02:46:37.000 I was just on the Ron Paul website noticing that it looks like any purchases that you make through the store count as contributions, and I know we're trying to do this run-up for the Tea Party that I'm definitely in for, and I don't know if it's a good suggestion for people if those purchases do count as contributions and will work towards that $10 million goal we're trying to get.

02:46:57.000 Whether it actually makes sense to give people, not just to give cash, but maybe to actually, you know, don't buy Chinese.

02:47:02.000 Go and get somebody a book or buy t-shirts or stuff like that for Christmas or any other way.

02:47:07.000 No, I agree.

02:47:08.000 Go to the Ron Paul campaign on the 16th coming up on the Money Bomb Day and buy a bunch of t-shirts and bumper stickers and signs.

02:47:14.000 They sell at cost.

02:47:16.000 Buy a bunch of them.

02:47:16.000 That way then you get to double, give money to Ron Paul and spread the word with the t-shirts.

02:47:22.000 Yeah, because I'm thinking, I guess at a certain point, I mean, how much money can they spend on You know, TV ads and radio ads and stuff like that when you can really get something going from the ground up and really spread the word directly.

02:47:34.000 Because no matter what, even if it gets to $10 million, they're going to cover it for 30 seconds on the news and that's it and you're never going to hear about it ever again.

02:47:41.000 But if you start taking the message on a viral basis, and just go one-on-one, you can really get... Well, I think we should do it all.

02:47:47.000 We should shoot for the mainstream, but also the viral alternative growing media.

02:47:50.000 I mean, he was on The View for like 15 minutes this morning, or longer.

02:47:53.000 I didn't watch it all.

02:47:54.000 It's going up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

02:47:57.000 Aaron's just finished uploading it.

02:47:59.000 All this other stuff's happening.

02:48:00.000 He was on Jay Leno Show.

02:48:02.000 The money bomb did make him break out and did make the media force, and his poll numbers doubled, by the way, in Iowa and New Hampshire from that.

02:48:09.000 So this money bomb on the 16th could double the numbers again.

02:48:12.000 I appreciate your call.

02:48:16.000 Several other news items I wanted to hit, but I also want to talk to Chris in Florida.

02:48:19.000 We'll probably have time for him, but I've got a few news items in the final segment.

02:48:23.000 Boy, that transmission went by fast, but if you missed the first hour, I get into Ron Paul, some new developments there, I get into an interview with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts about the economy and where it's going, and that's going to be restarting in about eight minutes at InfoWars.com if you're listening to the streams.

02:48:39.000 It is a big idea, a new world order.

02:48:43.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.

02:48:48.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

02:48:51.000 Could their objective be world domination?

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02:53:46.000 The other news is, like, a deaf guy, they went to the police and put him in the wrong house. 0.90

02:53:49.000 He was in the bathtub.

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02:53:52.000 I mean, now, if you do anything, they just taser you.

02:53:56.000 We've got the drug czar, the federal drug czar, saying he wants to drug test kids nationwide.

02:54:02.000 We've got just all this news.

02:54:04.000 And, of course, the big news of the day, I never even read the whole article on air, Former Italian President, one of the most respected, longest serving, intel agencies know 9-11 was an inside job.

02:54:15.000 Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA massacre.

02:54:20.000 That is scary stuff.

02:54:22.000 More and more of it is coming out.

02:54:24.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chris in Florida.

02:54:27.000 Chris, thanks for holding.

02:54:28.000 You're our tail gunner today.

02:54:29.000 Go ahead.

02:54:30.000 You say that a lot of the big money is leaving the country and going to other countries.

02:54:34.000 Do you know what kind of nations they're going to in general?

02:54:37.000 Now you have to understand.

02:54:38.000 Yeah, well sure.

02:54:39.000 I mean, my sister went to a fancy private school. 0.88

02:54:42.000 I went to public school.

02:54:43.000 But my parents said, well that was a mistake.

02:54:44.000 Let's send her to private school. 1.00

02:54:45.000 So, I mean, I've been to picnics back when she was little.

02:54:49.000 She's 15 years younger than George Bush was at.

02:54:51.000 So, you know, his daughter went to Austin High.

02:54:53.000 But before that, they went to St.

02:54:56.000 Andrews.

02:54:56.000 It's the best school here in Austin.

02:54:58.000 And so I know a bunch of people since then.

02:55:00.000 You know, my lawyer's son and daughter went there.

02:55:02.000 I got to know him.

02:55:03.000 I know a lot of these high-powered folks.

02:55:05.000 And Austin's a big center for, you know, money and wealth.

02:55:07.000 And so I've gotten to know them for years, and so they've told me more.

02:55:11.000 And I know one of the biggest financial planners in the country.

02:55:15.000 That's all I'm going to say.

02:55:16.000 And I don't want to get too much into it.

02:55:19.000 The point is, it's private.

02:55:21.000 And they didn't tell me too much, but I'm media, and they didn't buy any attorney-client stuff.

02:55:25.000 But the point is, and I've also seen in the news they're leaving, they're going to New Zealand.

02:55:31.000 They're going to Switzerland.

02:55:32.000 They're going to Spain.

02:55:34.000 They're just getting out of the U.S.

02:55:35.000 They're buying private islands.

02:55:38.000 I haven't seen any going to Ireland, but I've heard that's pretty nice.

02:55:44.000 But anything else, sir?

02:55:47.000 Well, on a lighter note, I kind of find it funny every time you mention that when a light shines on the cockroaches that they start to fornicate as if they're being sprayed with pesticide.

02:56:00.000 I get the image of cockroaches in a brothel in stilettos.

02:56:05.000 I'm out of here, my brother.

02:56:06.000 God bless you all.

02:56:07.000 Transmission restarts right now at InfoWars.com!

02:56:09.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - December 04, 2007

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