Alex Jones Show - 20071225_Tue_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 They had a newscast two nights ago in Austin about a horrible flu going around town.

00:00:30.000 It starts in your throat as a strep throat.

00:00:35.000 That's what I've got. 0.91

00:00:37.000 Yes, I'm insane.

00:00:38.000 I shouldn't be here on air, but I'm taking off part of next week, and so I am not going to take off this week.

00:00:46.000 So I drug my hind end out of bed.

00:00:48.000 I did go to bed at 8 o'clock last night, though.

00:00:51.000 I drug my hind in out of bed, and I am here, ladies and gentlemen, because the money bomb just happened a day and a half ago.

00:00:57.000 As you know, $6.6 million is the final official tally, because, see, when they first announced it after Sunday ended, they hadn't collated all the mail that came in that weekend.

00:01:08.000 They hadn't collated all of the money that was given for the money bomb over the telephone.

00:01:15.000 $6.6 million, and the news called it a pathetic failure.

00:01:23.000 That's up on PrisonPlanet.com right now. 0.90

00:01:26.000 The media, one big media outlet, called it a pathetic failure.

00:01:31.000 That's right, 6.6 million, breaking all records, any record of any type for fundraising, carries with 6.1 mil. 0.96

00:01:39.000 Doesn't matter, it's a pathetic failure.

00:01:41.000 And they continue to not allow Ron Paul to be in most of the polls, and they say, well he doesn't show up in polls. 0.71

00:01:46.000 Well, because you don't Put him in the poll and that has the effect of people not hearing his name.

00:01:53.000 So, they're pulling out all the stops.

00:01:54.000 We didn't talk enough about the money bomb yesterday because I got off into a bunch of other issues.

00:01:58.000 We're going to have open phones for the full three hours today.

00:02:02.000 Because, A, I've got a horrible sore throat and I really don't want to pontificate, though I do tend to do that and I'm sure I'll... I'm sure I'll...

00:02:13.000 Do it.

00:02:14.000 But we will be taking your calls today at 1-800-259-9231.

00:02:16.000 1-800-259-9231 and getting you up and on the air.

00:02:28.000 Speaking of looking sick, well, I saw Ron Paul on Fox News this morning and he looked like he's got a cold or something.

00:02:33.000 He can hardly talk and kind of out of it.

00:02:36.000 Imagine being 72 years old and working about 16, 17 hours a day.

00:02:43.000 And meeting and greeting people and going from event to event and doing interview after interview is grueling, because you get hyped up every time you're on the air.

00:02:52.000 You get, uh, your adrenaline starts flowing, and then afterwards, you get even more exhausted, and there's another interview and another interview, so we've all got to be praying for Ron Paul.

00:03:02.000 You know, I could get Ron Paul back on this December.

00:03:05.000 He comes on once a month.

00:03:08.000 But I think I'm not even going to have him on this December.

00:03:11.000 I think I'll have him on in January, just so I can give him a break.

00:03:14.000 I mean, at least a 30-minute break there.

00:03:17.000 But then I see Ron Paul doing big interviews, little interviews, and I'm just like, well, might as well have him on here.

00:03:23.000 At least I'll ask a lot of hard-hitting, serious questions.

00:03:23.000 here.

00:03:29.000 But yeah, 6.6 million.

00:03:32.000 We've got a lot of other really important news and information we'll be covering today as well.

00:03:37.000 And Callers always take us in a lot of different interesting directions.

00:03:40.000 You can talk about whatever you want.

00:03:41.000 The economy, the Ron Paul revolution, how the establishment is countering, how you think they're going to counter, how will he do in Iowa, how will he do in New Hampshire, Michigan.

00:03:51.000 Then I've got other reports like this.

00:03:53.000 Knife at lunch gets a 10-year-old girl arrested at school.

00:03:59.000 And, uh, she brought leftover steak from the night before, fifth grader, and pulled it out of her lunchbox and was cutting it up, and it was one of those little butter knives that's got the serrated edge, so they call it a steak knife, and they arrested her, felony charges. 0.88

00:04:17.000 But I thought I'd read this story because it illustrates something larger, and I want to get into what's behind all this and where it's going in the future.

00:04:25.000 Also, a World Food Stocks Dwindling Rapidly U.N.

00:04:29.000 Report says, Daddy Bush Makes Skull and Bones Pilgrimage, 100,000 Young Britons Pushing Unemployment by Immigrants. 0.99

00:04:43.000 This is only the tip of the iceberg of a lot of important news and information that we are going to be covering In the next two hours, 55 minutes.

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00:08:00.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

00:08:06.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:08:08.000 We've got several little news clips with Rob Paul that we'll be playing today.

00:08:26.000 We're going to have wide open phones.

00:08:29.000 I have to say that the Money Bomb Sunday that raised $6.6 million, now that's the official number that's in, breaking all records, shattering carries by over $500,000, has been a big success, obviously.

00:08:46.000 And the way the news cycle works, people were saying, and I was saying, the media isn't giving this Money Bomb as much attention as it gave the last one.

00:08:58.000 But now, scanning what was on television last night, scanning the different blogs that collate and collect all the different video clips, it looks like it was as big a response as of yesterday, and maybe even bigger today and tomorrow.

00:09:15.000 So, a huge coup.

00:09:17.000 Not just raising the $6.6 million that he can use for direct mailers, TV, radio, in the key battleground states with the primaries coming up that kick off in Iowa January 3rd, then of course New Hampshire.

00:09:33.000 Iowa is 17 days away, New Hampshire is 22 days away, then there's Michigan and a string of other states in the days and weeks that follow that, and now is the time to pull out all the stops, but as Rand Paul said on this radio show last week, Dr. Paul's son, Dr. Rand Paul, that but as Rand Paul said on this radio show last week, Dr. Paul's son, Dr. Rand Paul, that election fraud, both with the machines and just good old-fashioned votes double-voting chicanery, that we need poll watchers and we need to get the Ron Paul Revolution Army to

00:09:58.000 canery that we need poll watchers and we need to get the Ron Paul Revolution Army to quickly, those that aren't educated on how to do it, educated to be able to go out and poll watch and expose all of this as it unfolds.

00:10:13.000 There's no doubt that there will be fraud.

00:10:16.000 There's always fraud going back for hundreds of years.

00:10:19.000 The problem with these electronic machines is that they can hide their fraud much easier.

00:10:25.000 And they can then say it's proprietary, owned by the private companies, so you can't look under the hood, into the black box, and find out exactly what they're doing.

00:10:35.000 No transparency.

00:10:37.000 They just say, trust us.

00:10:39.000 And for the last 50 years plus, exit polls have always been plus or minus 3 to 4 points.

00:10:45.000 Very, very accurate.

00:10:49.000 And so when you saw elections that were stolen, local or federal or state, you would see very small margins of theft.

00:10:57.000 And now, magically in the last five, six years, that they put in these machines, and about 40% of the country now, it's grown.

00:11:06.000 Some areas are now removing them.

00:11:08.000 So that's a guesstimation.

00:11:09.000 It's about 35% a year ago, but they say more have adopted it, so I'm just guessing it's 40%.

00:11:13.000 But over 30% we now have them.

00:11:20.000 Suddenly with exit polls we are seeing where the exit poll by 5, 10, 15 points is showing that the anti-establishment candidate is winning and then magically the pro-establishment that's got the big money behind them candidate magically wins.

00:11:39.000 One of the first big ones was When Senator Chuck Hagel first got into office, there was big news articles about, does he own the electronic voting machine company that 82% of the state of Nebraska would be casting ballots on?

00:11:54.000 And then he lied in the papers and went on television and said, I don't own this company.

00:11:59.000 I own a little stock in it.

00:12:01.000 Then it came out that he was the majority owner and on its board of directors and had been its chairman.

00:12:07.000 And he was about 15 points behind in the polls.

00:12:11.000 And then the exit polls show he lost by about 10 points, but it didn't matter, he won by 14 points.

00:12:17.000 Now, that's a 29% difference.

00:12:21.000 You see, when the pre-polls and the exit polls are showing he's going to lose by 15 points and he wins by 14, that's a 29 point difference from the exit polls and the polls.

00:12:35.000 That's fraud, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:37.000 There's no Way to get around it.

00:12:40.000 Caught red-handed and nothing happens.

00:12:44.000 That's just one of literally, literally thousands of examples.

00:12:48.000 I mean, every time they have a off-year election or a big presidential election or regional elections, I mean, there are just hundreds of cases.

00:12:59.000 Engineers from the companies have quit and gone public and said, I was hired to steal elections and design this for fraud and for wireless electronic access to flip votes They testify before the Florida Legislature, before the Iowa Legislature, before other legislatures, and it's never on the news!

00:13:17.000 It'll be in the local regional news, and they'll just kind of calmly report in the back of the paper, yeah, the engineer from this company or that company, there's been a string of them, literally risked their lives, came out, Told us what was happening.

00:13:36.000 People always say, well you can't keep a secret.

00:13:39.000 Something this big, something this corrupt, you couldn't hide it.

00:13:45.000 They haven't hidden it.

00:13:47.000 It has come out.

00:13:48.000 But they just moved forward.

00:13:54.000 You'd think Governor Rick Perry getting all this money from Central Spain and handing over 8,000 miles of existing Texas roads With a law firm of Bracewell and Giuliani handling it, filled with Bilderberg Group members, even in the law firm, making hundreds of millions themselves off of it, just transparent corruption on its face, you would think that that would be a news item.

00:14:18.000 But you can't even get the news to admit when Rick Perry has a press conference announcing trans-Texas corridors that it exists.

00:14:25.000 I mean, we've entered a hyper-dimension or something of bizarro lies.

00:14:31.000 Where they will deny basic things that are fact, knowing that about half the population literally doesn't know anything.

00:14:45.000 From birth they were set in front of televisions five, ten hours a day.

00:14:50.000 Some children watch over ten hours a day.

00:14:52.000 It's over five hours on average.

00:14:53.000 Adults over four hours.

00:14:55.000 And they just are spectators.

00:14:57.000 They don't know how anything works.

00:14:58.000 They don't know how anything operates.

00:14:59.000 They don't understand systems.

00:15:01.000 They don't understand anything. 0.99

00:15:04.000 They literally are zombies.

00:15:07.000 More and more, I talk to people, either people are awakening, getting more intelligent, more informed, more excited about the world, or they're getting deeper into zombie-ism.

00:15:21.000 They're like sleepwalking.

00:15:24.000 You just joined us and I shout strange.

00:15:26.000 I have a really bad cold right now and a strep throat.

00:15:28.000 I don't want to get graphic, but I'm popping blood up here.

00:15:35.000 Please don't call and tell me Cure Zero.

00:15:37.000 Alex, keep it up.

00:15:38.000 You're a great guy.

00:15:38.000 I'm only telling you about it because I know you care about me, but I'm not whining.

00:15:42.000 Just so you know, I sound a little strange today.

00:15:48.000 Or why you may hear me pause when I hit the cop button, or why I may be a little bit dull today.

00:15:55.000 And that's because I feel like a horse stomped on my throat and ears.

00:16:02.000 Alright, so that's just some of the information here.

00:16:06.000 I do want to go over the comments of Rand Paul.

00:16:08.000 I do want to go over some of the media calling the 6.6 million dollar money bomb a failure. 0.73

00:16:14.000 And you'd think, man, that's obviously ridiculous.

00:16:17.000 That's a lie. 1.00

00:16:18.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:16:20.000 That'll discredit them. 1.00

00:16:22.000 The groups and outlets saying this don't care.

00:16:25.000 They know you're already awake.

00:16:28.000 And they don't care if you know they're liars.

00:16:30.000 They're trying to keep that 50% out there who is completely mind-numbed, who only read headlines and then think they're intellectual for doing that, neutralized.

00:16:42.000 Oh, Rob Paul's thing failed.

00:16:43.000 Did you hear?

00:16:47.000 I mean, if they'll publicly stage straw polls and say, Ron Paul won this one, so we're going to shut it down and not issue the results in California, or Ron Paul people are only allowed to vote once, but Mitt Romney people can vote as many times as they want, and say that in front of St.

00:17:04.000 Petersburg Times video cameras.

00:17:12.000 The last time I mentioned that, somebody emailed me and said, it's a newspaper, they're not TV.

00:17:18.000 Most papers now do TV.

00:17:21.000 Most papers now shoot video.

00:17:22.000 There are also citizens out there shooting video.

00:17:24.000 So, again, they're trying to come up to the Times, and they are doing video blogs, and you don't know what you're talking about. 0.98

00:17:31.000 And sometimes I think these emails and calls I get are like jokes, and then I actually talk to the people or email them back, and they're still arguing with me, and I figure out they're just dumb! 0.96

00:17:43.000 It's an amazing thing to realize that there are a lot of people who literally Are functional, functionally retarded. 0.98

00:17:52.000 And again, they had the brain, they had the physiology to be intelligent.

00:17:57.000 They weren't genetically retarded. 0.97

00:18:01.000 They weren't mentally retarded via nature. 0.54

00:18:06.000 It was nurture.

00:18:08.000 They never were taught critical thinking.

00:18:10.000 They were never taught the joy of learning.

00:18:11.000 They were never taught how amazing history is and systems and how things work.

00:18:17.000 They were never taught complex thought processes.

00:18:20.000 And so, I'm just a commoner.

00:18:23.000 I mean, I would be kind of a dull fellow to people back in 1776, and I really mean that.

00:18:27.000 I'm not romanticizing them.

00:18:29.000 I mean, literally.

00:18:30.000 I would be somewhat dull compared to a Thomas Jefferson or a Benjamin Franklin.

00:18:37.000 I've read their writings.

00:18:40.000 And I have to, you know, sometimes in certain passages really focus to even understand what they're saying or look up the words they're using.

00:18:47.000 And the thoughts are so subtle and multivariate with so few words is the incredible part too.

00:18:52.000 It's easy to give a complex thought in a big, big bulk release.

00:18:59.000 But they could do it just right off their tongue and poetry of language.

00:19:06.000 So I'm this dull, dim-eyed creature compared to them, and that I'm like a different creature compared to the people today.

00:19:16.000 You are.

00:19:18.000 Those of you that are aware and informed and know what's going on.

00:19:20.000 You're like different creatures altogether.

00:19:25.000 That's why the elite braggers say they're homo sapien super.

00:19:31.000 They have these different terms.

00:19:32.000 They say they're a different species.

00:19:34.000 But by design, they admitted they dumbed down the mass of the population.

00:19:39.000 And to me, that isn't the hallmark of leadership.

00:19:42.000 That is the ultimate greediness.

00:19:45.000 The ultimate selfishness.

00:19:47.000 To dumb down whole societies just so they're more easily controlled?

00:19:51.000 That is a crime against the soul of humanity.

00:19:54.000 And a crime against God.

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00:24:06.000 All right, I've got a news report also talking about suicide and antidepressants we're going to be playing.

00:24:14.000 We've got another clip going back over a decade, dealing with how they're going to turn existing roads into toll roads, which they deny they're doing in Texas as they put them on the existing roads.

00:24:31.000 They go, there's no toll road as there's a toll road there.

00:24:34.000 See, it's a new level of lying, because they know people are in cognitive dissonance, and so they just engage in mass mind control.

00:24:45.000 Let's talk to Kenneth in Kentucky, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:24:50.000 If Ron Paul wins, and then multiple nukes start going off and terror attacks all over the place, what are we going to do?

00:24:56.000 And what is Ron Paul really going to be able to do?

00:24:57.000 Because I know it wouldn't be him responsible for it, but the people who have infiltrated the government, but aren't actually the government, the people with all this power, if they go ahead and do this when he gets into power, you know, what are we going to do?

00:25:13.000 Well, that's why about a year and a half after 9-11, when they attacked Iraq, Bush actually said, forget about Bin Laden, Forget about 9-11 for a while.

00:25:23.000 They actually publicly said, shift your anger onto Saddam.

00:25:27.000 He did it.

00:25:28.000 Saddam is the man. 0.99

00:25:29.000 And Bush would even on purpose go, bin Laden, I mean Saddam.

00:25:34.000 And then after they were done with Iraq, at least the invasion, they switched back to Al-Qaeda.

00:25:39.000 And so they backed off saying Al-Qaeda is going to get us.

00:25:42.000 A, because people started seeing through it.

00:25:44.000 Even major polls showed that people were saying that they were using terror alerts for political gain.

00:25:50.000 So the public understands that they're, even if they don't think the government did it, they know the government's using it to take our freedoms and to politically, you know, shut the opposition up.

00:26:00.000 But that's why exposing government sponsors is so important.

00:26:03.000 A lot of people, even in the Patriot movement, or the quote, Ron Polk type movement, go, okay, 9-11's an inside job, but let's not discuss it or talk about it because it sounds kooky and it scares people.

00:26:15.000 We better desperately be exposing 9-11 and government-sponsored terror, because if we don't, Hillary or whoever else is going to come into office, and guaranteed have some type of inaugural terror attack, so that they can firmly bring in their next wave of control.

00:26:30.000 I mean, we have the sword of Damocles hanging over our head every day, where the globalists could pull the stops out and do this.

00:26:39.000 And that we have to continue to expose government-sponsored terror.

00:26:42.000 That is the key.

00:26:44.000 Out of everything.

00:26:45.000 So what you're saying is that it's a Catch-22 situation, kind of, because if Hillary wins, she'll probably stage something. 0.87

00:26:52.000 And if Ron Paul wins, the secret controllers will most likely stage something as well and force him into the position where he'll have to point at somebody else, like a ghost enemy.

00:27:05.000 Because he doesn't want to look like the one that did it.

00:27:07.000 You know, we voted for him, and he really is the people's candidate.

00:27:13.000 You know, I mean, he has our interest at heart.

00:27:14.000 Well, here's the deal.

00:27:15.000 Justice be done.

00:27:16.000 Justice be done.

00:27:17.000 I appreciate your call.

00:27:18.000 May the heavens fall.

00:27:20.000 And so, no doubt, that's a very astute point you make.

00:27:24.000 If Ron Paul was a good elected president and they weren't to assassinate him because they decided that was too dangerous to do, They would try to manufacture dirt on him.

00:27:34.000 They would try to crash the economy and say that he had caused it.

00:27:39.000 They would probably have American hostages taken and then say Ron Paul's foreign policy caused it.

00:27:45.000 They would sick some foreign ne'er-do-well group under the control of a globalist on them.

00:27:49.000 And yes, they could certainly stage terror attacks and say that Ron Paul had caused it.

00:27:54.000 He wouldn't let us fight him over there, so we got attacked over here.

00:28:00.000 That's why they're going to continue to hold us hostage with staged events until everybody understands that government-sponsored terror has happened in the past, has happened recently, and can happen again.

00:28:13.000 It is their ace in the hole.

00:28:15.000 It is the pivot on which their entire system orbits.

00:28:21.000 And, you know, the crowd that doesn't want to talk about 9-11 being an inside job, they don't want to talk about Tonkin being staged.

00:28:27.000 To get us into Vietnam, that's admitted.

00:28:29.000 They don't talk about all the hundreds of admissions, and they don't understand the larger globalist strategy.

00:28:37.000 If it does not become a household understanding that the government is criminal and run by criminals, it doesn't mean the whole government is criminal, but the leadership and the directors of the agencies and the financial institutions that have put those people in power and lobbied themselves into control.

00:28:57.000 They're going to continue to have their way with us.

00:29:01.000 They're already saying, SPP, we've got to have the SPP, North American Union for Security.

00:29:07.000 But then you look at what the SPP does, it actually destroys border security.

00:29:11.000 They know, though, the average person can't grasp that.

00:29:14.000 It isn't about logic.

00:29:16.000 And so when there's another terror attack, they're going to say, see?

00:29:19.000 We've got to have the SPP.

00:29:21.000 And that's a talking point.

00:29:24.000 On Nightline, The Wednesday after 9-11, Wednesday week, eight days later, I saw the head of United Nations Peacekeeping, General McKenzie, say, we need a continental security perimeter from southern Mexico to Alaska.

00:29:40.000 That's what we're going to do.

00:29:41.000 That's what we're putting in place.

00:29:44.000 You see?

00:29:45.000 And then now that's what the CFR proposes years later.

00:29:48.000 This is a plan.

00:29:52.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:01.000 I have studied psychology in a late fashion.

00:33:17.000 And what we don't want our movement to be is soft, and weak, and knock-kneed, and slow, and timid.

00:33:32.000 We need to be bold, well-spoken, forceful, and have the evidence.

00:33:38.000 I mean, if you knew that criminal elements of the government killed 2,800 people, And you knew they'd done it hundreds of times in the past and then it was declassified.

00:33:50.000 You would do that.

00:33:52.000 You would speak out.

00:33:53.000 You would be bold.

00:33:55.000 I mean, you almost become a member of the criminal operation.

00:34:02.000 They're aiding and abetting.

00:34:07.000 You are an accomplice to the crime after the fact.

00:34:12.000 When you know that it's an inside job, or you know the evidence points towards it being an inside job, and you self-censor.

00:34:19.000 And you also bring doom down on your own head.

00:34:24.000 You know, they tell people in campaigns, be timid, don't be bold, don't be focused, don't attack.

00:34:30.000 And then the establishment candidates, they do attack, and they are vicious, because that's what's effective.

00:34:37.000 But they then give you a strategy that is ineffective in your daily life.

00:34:44.000 And so I am going to boldly expose 9-11, and I'm going to boldly, if I've got hundreds of mainstream news stories and government documents about cancer viruses and vaccines, or the vaccines causing Crohn's disease and literally scores of other autoimmune problems in the intestines, upper and lower, small and large, I'm going to talk about it.

00:35:07.000 And if AIDS is an engineered bioweapon and we have all the documents, I don't care if it's shocking, I don't care if it's scary.

00:35:13.000 I don't care if the cowardly public can't handle it.

00:35:15.000 I'm going to talk about it until they can handle it.

00:35:20.000 It's real simple.

00:35:23.000 I mean, it sounds crazy that the average state has more than two-thirds of their foster children on seven psychotropic drugs.

00:35:30.000 Not just an average of more than two-thirds on drugs, but more than seven drugs, or seven drugs is the average.

00:35:37.000 Sounds crazy, but it's the truth.

00:35:39.000 Just like when I told you about glow-in-the-dark monkeys.

00:35:43.000 Six years ago, and you couldn't believe me, now it's all over the news.

00:35:45.000 Glow-in-the-dark monkeys, glow-in-the-dark cats.

00:35:48.000 Everybody's emailing me, oh, talk about the glow-in-the-dark monkeys and cats.

00:35:53.000 You know, people called me kooks.

00:35:54.000 How many radio shows made fun of me about that just because I read the news wire?

00:36:01.000 And went online to Hong Kong shops.

00:36:06.000 And look at the glowing monkeys that I could buy, and have shipped to me by the way, that are just spawning super viruses and bacteria literally just coming off of them.

00:36:19.000 And the establishment knows that when all of that breaks out, they just label it as all these new diseases and then they've got the treatment for it.

00:36:29.000 And that doesn't mean the average doctor does.

00:36:31.000 He or she is compartmentalized and carries out the AMA approved treatment.

00:36:35.000 I mean, you better figure out the diabolic nature, the dark philosophy, or the dark mathematics of the New World Order.

00:36:44.000 They are records.

00:36:45.000 And I've told the story about this down in Cornwall in southern England, on the seacoast there, on the white cliffs of Dover nearby.

00:36:54.000 They would, for hundreds of years, this goes back over 800 years, would put up fires at night, guide fires at night, knowing that Spanish and French and Viking ships, and then Dutch 500 years ago, 400 years ago, we're going back 800 years ago, and they would come in and wreck on the rocks

00:37:19.000 And then they would set the fires where they knew that it would bring the goods in to the shore, or near the shore, and they would go out and they would salvage that.

00:37:29.000 And when you actually read some of the riddles and sayings that are admittedly from skull and bones, it's about how they're wreckers.

00:37:40.000 I didn't know exactly what that meant until I read history books the last four or five years.

00:37:43.000 I kind of, the last six years, got into naval history.

00:37:47.000 Not just the Napoleonic Wars, but 1776, the American-British War.

00:37:53.000 And I went back and read a lot of history before that.

00:37:58.000 And they had wreckers in ancient Greece.

00:38:00.000 They had wreckers in Egypt.

00:38:01.000 They had wreckers everywhere.

00:38:02.000 And see, that's just one little example of their philosophy.

00:38:07.000 They come in and put cancer viruses in your vaccine, poisons in your water.

00:38:12.000 They create hundreds of new diseases every decade.

00:38:15.000 Then they have treatments for them.

00:38:19.000 that don't cure you, but only treat the symptoms.

00:38:27.000 And if we don't have a new renaissance, a revelation of just how serious things are, then we're going to have watered-down movements that are easily co-opted.

00:38:36.000 And with this huge background shatter of thousands of radio stations and hundreds of TV stations and more at it every day, Only someone who tells it like it is, and again, I don't have words to describe how serious all this is.

00:38:56.000 I can't have all the knowledge about this.

00:38:57.000 Just what I know is so unspeakably dark and wicked, and yes, hard to believe when it's in their own documents, that I couldn't put it as bad as it actually is to you.

00:39:11.000 Billy in Chicago, you're on the air.

00:39:15.000 Alex, I just want to tell you first hand that I took your advice about not waiting for orders from the top and started my own website, started producing my own videos, and the response has been overwhelming.

00:39:29.000 I was starting to average 10,000 hits a month.

00:39:32.000 Rosie O'Donnell picked up one of my videos, put it on her blog, Air America.

00:39:38.000 And the response has just been nuts, and I've been going up talking to people directly, and people that have been staunch Bush supporters are finally even seeing the light.

00:39:47.000 A friend of mine, who basically was going to go down with the ship, said to me a couple days ago, this guy needs to be impeached.

00:39:54.000 The big problem is, though, a lot of people are jumping over to the Democrats, or they're jumping over to other candidates.

00:40:00.000 Every one of them is controlled opposition, except for Ron Paul.

00:40:05.000 Well, and people are waking up to that. 0.95

00:40:07.000 They're just watching these people on TV and they're just like, they're liars.

00:40:11.000 And if people would just realize, if they can get through the fear and choose love over fear, watch something like the battle at Kruger.

00:40:18.000 Realize that the people have the power and we're the ones that are going to make the changes here.

00:40:23.000 And the establishment knows that.

00:40:25.000 That's why they say Bin Laden attacked us because he hates our freedom, but then they do everything they can to take our freedoms and all the mechanisms they've built are for suppressing us.

00:40:38.000 Absolutely.

00:40:39.000 And I sit in my office and every week I look down on the street here, there's a police checkpoint.

00:40:39.000 Absolutely.

00:40:45.000 At least once a week, where there's seven squad cars and they're checking people for, you know, allegedly for seatbelts, papers, please.

00:40:51.000 But if they're illegal aliens, they're let go. 0.96

00:40:53.000 Citizens have the book thrown at them.

00:40:55.000 Absolutely.

00:40:56.000 And they reach in and check the ashtray for roaches.

00:40:59.000 For those who don't know, that's the butt of a marijuana cigarette.

00:41:04.000 Uh, and, uh, it's just a... while their bosses ship in the narcotics.

00:41:09.000 I mean, and while their bosses push, again, Ritalin and Prozac type drugs whose molecules are more deadly than the illegal narcotics.

00:41:19.000 And the point I've been making to people is, like, when I'm talking to them, I'm like, Okay, so you agree with me that Christine Todd Whitman lied, Giuliani lied about the air quality in New York, and... And by the way, that's going to kill more people than 9-11.

00:41:31.000 Sure, and police, firemen, and citizens of New York are dying.

00:41:31.000 Go ahead.

00:41:35.000 You believe the story about Walter Reed and the investors and how they're treating our vets when they're coming back, and the homeless vet situation.

00:41:42.000 And we've had over 15,000 troops die.

00:41:44.000 The Pentagon admits that.

00:41:46.000 But only 4,000 that have died in-country, so they don't count those that die from having their arms and legs blown off a week later.

00:41:54.000 Exactly.

00:41:55.000 So what's funny is I keep citing these things, and they agree, and they go, you know what, you're right, you're right.

00:41:59.000 And I go, so why is it so hard for you to believe that they would fly planes into buildings and kill us that way if they're doing it all these other ways?

00:42:08.000 Well, that's the point I make, and that's what Endgame does, is we spend 20 minutes of the two-hour, 20-minute film, literally 30 seconds apiece.

00:42:16.000 Okay, here's London Guardian.

00:42:19.000 Deadly bioweapons sprayed over entirety of England.

00:42:23.000 Massive deaths occurred.

00:42:25.000 And they did it hundreds of times just in that one experiment.

00:42:30.000 Oh, here, deadly plague bombs set off in Scotland.

00:42:33.000 Oh, here's another one.

00:42:34.000 I mean, I use this example because it's the most horrific of all of them.

00:42:38.000 Taking toddlers, putting them in a radiation tank, and flying them?

00:42:42.000 Oh, but they wouldn't!

00:42:43.000 And that's admitted!

00:42:44.000 That's Time and Newsweek, folks!

00:42:47.000 I mean, you know, flying babies, folks!

00:42:51.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:42:53.000 Well, that's all I'm saying.

00:42:53.000 So I'm just making the challenge to everybody just to... The only way things are going to change is if you get out there and get active.

00:43:01.000 And whether that's just talking to people, or campaigning for Ron Paul, or starting a website, or making videos, or just handing out information, or directing them to your site, that's what's going to make the change.

00:43:12.000 We are the ones we have been waiting for.

00:43:14.000 Why don't you plug your website?

00:43:14.000 I agree.

00:43:16.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:43:17.000 It's Puppetgov.com, and we've got links to you, and we cite you in a lot of the videos.

00:43:26.000 Hey, brother, I don't even care if you do.

00:43:27.000 All I care is that you find the new old order.

00:43:29.000 God bless you, and take care.

00:43:32.000 You know, I start thinking about it.

00:43:36.000 The New World Order is best described as vampires.

00:43:40.000 Now, before the New York Times misquotes me and says I believe in vampires, I mean, they don't have fangs that come out at night, and they don't turn into bats and flap around, and they, well, at Skull and Bones they do sleep in coffins, but they literally fit the M.O.

00:43:55.000 of vampires.

00:43:56.000 I mean, they have no remorse. 0.99

00:43:58.000 In fact, they enjoy killing us. 0.99

00:44:01.000 They see us as cattle. 0.99

00:44:03.000 They see us as a disease.

00:44:04.000 They're selling the world through environmentalism, false environmentalism, that humans are bad and setting a precedent to tax all of our daily activities, micromanage our lives.

00:44:17.000 They mean business!

00:44:20.000 Meanwhile, they are literally doing everything they can to destroy the Earth.

00:44:26.000 I mean, again, I don't know how many top scientists we've talked to, how many mainstream articles I've even read, but they don't get any attention.

00:44:31.000 Where they're saying super viruses are already out there, things are already being leaked, there are hundreds of thousands of known viruses that have come out of genetically engineered crops and animals and organisms that just haven't jumped into humans yet that are killing trees, and killing fish, and killing birds, and killing deer, and some of the stuff has jumped into humans and then they whitewash it.

00:44:52.000 I mean, we're living in a science fiction nightmare.

00:44:56.000 And all I know is I love my family and I care about you too.

00:45:00.000 You know, you see the stories all the time about some toddler walks out in the street and some man jumps in front of a bus to save them, or firemen go into a burning house to save children, and the firemen die, but the kids get out.

00:45:11.000 You know, it's that same instinct.

00:45:14.000 I mean, I just have an instinct.

00:45:15.000 I see other people's children as mine.

00:45:17.000 I have an instinctive tribal thing.

00:45:19.000 I see my fellow man as my tribe.

00:45:22.000 And then I realize that the establishment's taken that out of most people.

00:45:26.000 They've gone to most people, And they have trained them to hate their fellow man, to be cheats.

00:45:34.000 And I heard a talk show host this weekend, George Butler on Genesis, talking about how, and he was absolutely right, that college today is about who dresses the best and who can pay the money to have somebody write their papers for them.

00:45:56.000 And then they just, and it's just screw jobs everywhere.

00:46:01.000 And everything's starting to unravel, and everything is about the surface.

00:46:06.000 And people rationalize what they're doing.

00:46:10.000 So it's not just the New World Order, it's the general public is either getting smarter, better, more enlightened, more virtuous, or you're getting more evil.

00:46:25.000 I mean, who would have ever thought they'd be on television promoting torture, promoting secret arrest, promoting NSA spying on everyone?

00:46:33.000 The New York Times comes right out and tells you what I've been telling you for 12 years, since 1996 yesterday, and says, yeah, the government's paying billions to telecoms to put in more snooping systems in their telephone companies.

00:46:45.000 I mean, whole floors at every facility.

00:46:48.000 I knew that from the legislation.

00:46:51.000 Now they're just putting in another layer.

00:46:53.000 And then it's big breaking news when somebody in San Francisco, one of their IT top guys, talks about how a whole floor was built by the NSA, and how everything runs through it, and how they spy on everything.

00:47:08.000 Everybody's so shocked.

00:47:09.000 I mean, it was in the bill!

00:47:14.000 It has nothing to do with terrorists, except for when the military or the FBI would try to stop The Patsy's who were going around taking part in drills, and they didn't know, they thought it was actual terrorists on 9-11, they could be ordered to stand down.

00:47:28.000 FBI agents are on record in a bunch of news articles, but one headline in the London Guardian, let me paraphrase, about five years ago, it was a top FBI deputy anti-terrorism director was saying, and John O'Neill before they killed him said this too, they said it's like Al-Qaeda has moles at the highest levels of the FBI and CIA.

00:47:48.000 No, you got that wrong.

00:47:50.000 It isn't moles.

00:47:51.000 That's who runs it.

00:47:54.000 So the FBI agents on the ground are going, it's like they got moles at the top! 0.97

00:47:58.000 And they tell us not to go after these people!

00:48:00.000 Absolutely!

00:48:02.000 Bingo!

00:48:03.000 Bingo!

00:48:07.000 Let's go to Frank in Georgia.

00:48:08.000 Thanks for holding them, Nathan, Richard, Dino, and others.

00:48:11.000 Go ahead, Frank.

00:48:13.000 Hey, man.

00:48:14.000 I just want to say about Ron Paul, like, you guys have done a good job of getting everybody to donate and everything, and now you have all these people that are not only emotionally vested in this campaign, but now you have people who have never been financially vested, who are financially vested.

00:48:31.000 But, uh, I mean, I really think, you know, these people, they're not gonna, they don't relinquish their power, they just pass it around.

00:48:39.000 And so, it's not, you know, if there's an event, it's just when.

00:48:44.000 And I think that really, like Romney and Giuliani and all those other guys need to worry about being, you know, caught up in some sort of event that eliminates Ron Paul along with them so that they can really wash their hands of it and say, no, we didn't do it.

00:49:04.000 And then they can install, you know, Jeb Bush to run against Hillary, which is what they'd really love.

00:49:09.000 Yeah, there's no telling what they can pull.

00:49:11.000 There's no telling.

00:49:12.000 There's no telling, for sure.

00:49:14.000 But, um, I just, you know, if something is pulled, now that you have all these people who are also financially vested, you have to, I mean, you're also always talking about how you don't want anybody doing anything offensive, you know?

00:49:28.000 We have to have a defensive attack, you know, like you say.

00:49:33.000 Well, by offensive, I mean physically offensive.

00:49:37.000 We need to be on the offensive in the info war.

00:49:41.000 I'm just saying, you know, if something does happen, you don't want these people who are first time in, you know, financially invested in the campaign really thinking, taking it personally on their $50 and saying, well, I'm going to do something now.

00:49:53.000 You know, just because everybody's all pumped up and fired up, you still don't have to be smart about it.

00:49:57.000 Yeah, because the establishment will use that as an excuse for a crackdown. 0.80

00:50:01.000 But what about that?

00:50:02.000 You know, I guess, you know, yeah, they can do anything.

00:50:06.000 Not if we expose government-sponsored terror.

00:50:08.000 Not if we explain Frame-ups, problem, reaction, solutions.

00:50:13.000 They create the problem, the public has the reaction, the New World Order offers its solution. 0.68

00:50:18.000 If that becomes a household term, if people have a revelation of understanding that, the New World Order is done.

00:50:28.000 Hey, I'm going to read two paragraphs from a known Chomsky speech from 2002.

00:50:36.000 I'll let you come back to it real fast.

00:50:36.000 Well, stay there.

00:50:38.000 Then I've got Nathan, Richard, Dino, and others.

00:50:40.000 I've got a bunch of audio clips, more of your calls, a ton of news I haven't even gotten to yet that I want to cover.

00:50:45.000 So I'll try to hurry up your phones a little bit faster on the other side.

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00:51:04.000 A New World Order.

00:51:06.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.

00:51:10.000 It's known as the Builder Birth.

00:51:13.000 Could their objective be world domination?

00:51:16.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

00:51:19.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.93

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00:54:02.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

00:54:08.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:54:10.000 Alright, Frank and George, finish up quick.

00:54:19.000 So this is Noam Chomsky on a speech that he gave talking about how the war on terror should be reported if it was truly being reported objectively.

00:54:32.000 And it's called The Journalist for Mars, and it's, you know, if somebody from Mars came down here, how would they really report on it?

00:54:38.000 So he says, the first thing you have to do is define terrorism.

00:54:42.000 It says, terrorism, as I'm quoting, is defined as calculated use of violence or the threat of violence.

00:54:49.000 To attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature, through intimidation, coercion, or installation of fear.

00:54:57.000 And it says, well, you know, that sounds all good and everything, but there's two reasons why you can't.

00:55:02.000 And the first one is, the official definition is unusable.

00:55:07.000 It's unusable for two important reasons.

00:55:09.000 First of all, it's a very close paraphrase of official government policy.

00:55:14.000 Very close, in fact.

00:55:16.000 Yeah, if you don't do what we say, we're going to hurt you. 0.62

00:55:21.000 Right.

00:55:22.000 But that's Chomsky.

00:55:23.000 That's Sam Stanislaus himself.

00:55:25.000 I just figured I'd let him get that out there.

00:55:26.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

00:55:28.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Nathan in Pennsylvania.

00:55:30.000 You're on the air.

00:55:31.000 Hi.

00:55:33.000 Hello.

00:55:33.000 Hey, thanks for taking my call.

00:55:35.000 Thanks for calling.

00:55:36.000 Yep.

00:55:37.000 I got a couple questions for you about your headlines today, but first I'd like to say I actually was on Ritalin when I was younger and I gotta say that is definitely messed up for kids.

00:55:49.000 I was misdiagnosed and what they do is they have a practice of if you don't like the Ritalin and you tell them that you don't like it and you don't like the way it feels, they literally have a system set up so that they just up your dose.

00:56:03.000 So if you don't like what they're giving you, they just give you more.

00:56:07.000 And then they tell you, you know, you'll feel good with this.

00:56:09.000 It's the same thing with the Prozac drugs.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, well, so I started on 50 milligrams and by the time I just stopped taking it, I mean, I just stopped taking it because it's bad.

00:56:19.000 But, um, I started on 50 and by the time I stopped that was like, I started on 5 and by the time I stopped that was up to like 50 milligrams.

00:56:25.000 But, um, another question I have for you is, um, something really weird happened while my friends and I were watching the Money Bomb.

00:56:35.000 It was midnight Eastern Time, well, actually it was 1155.

00:56:38.000 And within the last five minutes, we were counting down to see if Ron Paul could hit $18 million.

00:56:44.000 He was at $17,980,000.

00:56:45.000 And then my computer had a little glitch.

00:56:46.000 So we got back on the internet, and we looked at the countdown again, and he had lost $30,000.

00:56:51.000 So I just chalked that up to a technical problem with the counter.

00:56:51.000 It was at $17,960,000.

00:56:53.000 I looked at the countdown again and he had lost $30,000.

00:56:58.000 It was at $17,960,000.

00:57:01.000 So I just chalked that up to a technical problem with the counter.

00:57:05.000 But I was wondering if you had any comments about that.

00:57:09.000 No, we know he got $6.6 million in one day.

00:57:13.000 Yeah, okay, okay.

00:57:14.000 And you had a comment about headlines?

00:57:16.000 Yeah, the headlines.

00:57:18.000 This Rand Paul, the fear that some of the votes might be given away to the other These are the other candidates for his father?

00:57:27.000 Yes.

00:57:27.000 I was wondering what you think Ron Paul might do about that, if that happens.

00:57:30.000 Because I noticed that most candidates... Yeah, most candidates won't contest.

00:57:35.000 That's why we need poll watchers now, and people who are election workers now, to oversee all this, to make sure there's not chicanery. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Now, you can't tell when it's an electronic machine, but places like New Hampshire, quote, paper ballot, they still feed it into a computer.

00:57:50.000 So, there's a lot of things we can do.

00:57:53.000 I appreciate your call.

00:57:54.000 Here's an example.

00:57:55.000 In 1996, Pat Buchanan was running in the Republican primaries.

00:58:00.000 I was working downtown at the Austin Convention Center.

00:58:04.000 It had a different name then.

00:58:05.000 They'd torn it down and built a bigger building.

00:58:07.000 Palmer Events Center.

00:58:08.000 I forget.

00:58:09.000 One of those big buildings downtown.

00:58:12.000 That part doesn't matter.

00:58:12.000 The point is, I'm down there.

00:58:14.000 And half of the votes or more were for Pat Buchanan.

00:58:18.000 I started asking other people, because we were stacking the scantrons, you can see them right there on the front, that was bubbled in.

00:58:24.000 You are listening to GCN.

00:58:25.000 They were going, yeah, it's Pat Buchanan, Pat Buchanan.

00:58:28.000 And when the night closed, he had like 5% of the vote.

00:58:30.000 Now, again, I was looking at the ballots.

00:58:34.000 It was Pat Buchanan winning.

00:58:37.000 But at the end of the night, he didn't even really show up.

00:58:39.000 You are listening to GCN.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:03.000 You want answers?

00:59:05.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Now into our number two, Dr. Michael Kaufman, coming up here in about 10 minutes or so.

00:59:22.000 Hello, bro.

00:59:23.000 Dallas Cowboy, champion lineman Mark Stipnoski joining us, two-time Super Bowl winner, five-time Pro Bowler.

00:59:23.000 You're ever in our prayers.

00:59:31.000 Going public for 9-11 Truth.

00:59:33.000 He'll be joining us in the next hour.

00:59:35.000 Very honored to have him coming on the transmission with us.

00:59:38.000 Let's try to get through some of your calls.

00:59:40.000 Mark in Atlanta, Georgia, welcome.

00:59:43.000 Hello, bro.

00:59:44.000 You're ever in our prayers.

00:59:46.000 I understand you're being distraught.

00:59:49.000 As am I, I am heartbroken.

00:59:52.000 I've heard about the Reese Commission, and I've looked online and had a bit of difficulty finding a concise summary.

01:00:01.000 The former State Director of the John Birch Society told me there were like 4,000 pages of documents regarding this.

01:00:10.000 I don't know what it is.

01:00:11.000 Just in a nutshell, tell them.

01:00:13.000 Well, basically, there was an investigation back in the fifties of the non-profit organizations, primarily the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, that they were like, they're up to something.

01:00:25.000 And who was the head staffer on that?

01:00:29.000 He's real famous.

01:00:30.000 I interviewed him before he died.

01:00:31.000 Was that a Dodd?

01:00:32.000 Yes.

01:00:32.000 Was that a Dodd?

01:00:34.000 Yes.

01:00:34.000 No, that was Senator Dodd.

01:00:36.000 He was a presidential candidate.

01:00:37.000 No, no, no.

01:00:38.000 There was a, you know, he was like 90 years old.

01:00:42.000 We gave a pretty cogent interview before he died.

01:00:46.000 It's on Google.

01:00:48.000 I just can't remember his name.

01:00:49.000 Right, well the thing is that they said that basically these non-profit organizations had a Hidden in plain sight kind of agenda.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, the Carnegie Endowment for Peace, as early as the 20s, and the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, see, the billions of dollars, and that was billions 80 years ago, 90 years ago, they all went tax free.

01:01:11.000 And then they used their, you know, their mansions are owned by the foundation, their helicopters, their oil companies, it's all tax free.

01:01:19.000 It's like the Gates and Bill and the Gates things now tax-free.

01:01:22.000 All 60-something trillion of it.

01:01:24.000 No, it's more than 60 trillion.

01:01:26.000 It's 70-plus trillion now.

01:01:27.000 Keeps growing.

01:01:29.000 And it's all tax-free.

01:01:30.000 And they publicly say they're going to set up world government.

01:01:32.000 I have read the documents.

01:01:33.000 I've interviewed the people that were staffers on it.

01:01:35.000 They're all dead now, but being around 12, 13 years, I interviewed a few of them before they died.

01:01:40.000 And yeah, I'd have to go back into all my files on that, but what specifically are you looking for?

01:01:43.000 Well, yeah, the thing is that they would use the instrumentality of war, which I gather means the opening of the purse strings, the false sense of peace.

01:01:51.000 Yeah, that's the Carnegie Foundation for Peace saying they would use war to bring in their world government, yeah.

01:01:57.000 Well, war is peace, of course. 0.97

01:01:59.000 They said war is the great organizing factor.

01:02:02.000 Right.

01:02:02.000 Yeah.

01:02:03.000 Yes, well, my website, I'll be the first to admit it, a wreck if doyoulovejesus.org, letter U, And I'm preparing a letter, in all fairness to Muslims, because I see this neoconsteady stream of vilification that it's like there's nobody being allowed to present the other side to say, wait a minute, these people, you know, it's the same old tactic of

01:02:29.000 vilify somebody way over there and like well we need to deal with the problem here before we have any moral justification and out there I understand that dr. Paul is a seasoned veteran of the political minefield there's there's ammunition he doesn't use because I know I get the impression that he that if he did use it They would they would distort it and make it sound like well He's crazy is it like the reef Commission and the Grace Commission a really

01:02:55.000 Would you concur with that, that the reason why he doesn't use these certain... Well, he knows.

01:02:59.000 I mean, he's talked about the Tax-Free Foundations and the New World Order.

01:03:02.000 He's introduced bills.

01:03:03.000 When he's on TV, he knows he's talking to people that literally can't tie their shoelaces.

01:03:08.000 And so he dumbs it down.

01:03:08.000 Right.

01:03:11.000 I take it these are... what he says about these things is available in his writings, then, right?

01:03:18.000 Yes, and all the legislation he's introduced, and all of it.

01:03:22.000 Yes.

01:03:22.000 Well, you know that it is written, they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.

01:03:27.000 And for a lot of people, it's that they don't want to deal with the truth when the truth is painful.

01:03:32.000 This thing called godly sorrow is vitally important.

01:03:36.000 Hi, Harry.

01:03:37.000 We gotta go.

01:03:37.000 We gotta jump.

01:03:39.000 But when you're in denial long enough, that leads to ruin.

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01:03:48.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls and Dr. Michael Kaufman.

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01:06:10.000 Those are little tracking devices the government wants to put under our skin someday to track us.

01:06:15.000 You mean the government's not the good guys?

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01:06:19.000 They're supposed to do what we the people say they should do.

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01:06:54.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

01:06:59.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:07:02.000 Dr. Michael Koppel has a Ph.D. in forest ecology.

01:07:15.000 He's a biologist and he was doing a multi-million dollar study for the U.S.

01:07:22.000 government on the forest ecology of the entire U.S.

01:07:25.000 and discovered that it wasn't about helping the earth, it was about taking control of property and controlling populations.

01:07:31.000 That was back in the 80s, and he helped shoot down the big biological diversity treaty that would have totally regulated everything that's happening.

01:07:39.000 Now they're pushing man-made global warming. 0.97

01:07:41.000 Certainly there's crises in the environment, but the sun is what's heating the earth.

01:07:45.000 We've gone over that here in his new film, Global Warming or Global Government.

01:07:51.000 Available at Infowars.com.

01:07:53.000 And he's one of the big contributors to the new film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

01:08:00.000 And I would add to that, that I'm just now announcing this, in about two weeks, or on the 28th of November, we're going to release close to two hours.

01:08:12.000 Really, you could call it Endgame 1.5.

01:08:16.000 Uh, all of the interviews with Dr. Kaufman, Daniel Estillan, Jim Tucker, stuff at Brook Street, the police harassing us in Canada, things that we couldn't put in the film, uh, I mean, right now it looks like more than two hours, but we'll see how much we, it might be three hours we put up, I'm not sure.

01:08:31.000 But another reason to have a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, that is coming up the 28th!

01:08:37.000 And you'll be able to download those, burn them to disk at PrisonPlanet.tv, get them out to people.

01:08:42.000 And Dr. Kaufman, of course, in probably an hour of that two, three hours we're going to put out so much vital info in the two days he was here that we interviewed him.

01:08:49.000 He ended up being about seven, eight minutes of the two hour plus film.

01:08:53.000 And really a great contributor to it.

01:08:55.000 In fact, he's one of the most prominent voices in the film.

01:08:58.000 But there was just so much we couldn't have a four or five hour film, so we had to cut a lot of it out.

01:09:02.000 But you will be able to see that in these expanded in-game extras that aren't on the DVD.

01:09:07.000 There's 40 minutes of extras on the DVD that are really just parts we cut out of the film as well.

01:09:11.000 Highly produced.

01:09:12.000 A lot of this is just the raw, high-powered info and presentations.

01:09:17.000 And then a lot of other things happening, so that is coming out in March.

01:09:21.000 Going to Dr. Michael Kaufman, I haven't really asked him yet what he thought of the film.

01:09:24.000 He just now saw it yesterday.

01:09:27.000 I've been so busy I neglected to even mail him a copy, so we gave him a PrisonPlanet.tv code.

01:09:32.000 He said he watched about two hours and ten minutes of the two-hour film and ran out of time last night.

01:09:37.000 But Dr. Kaufman, what did you think of the film?

01:09:40.000 I thought it was incredible.

01:09:41.000 I really do.

01:09:42.000 I think everyone that's listening to this needs to get a copy because it really defines What has been happening, how they're doing it, and what they're expecting to get in the future.

01:09:51.000 And people need to wake up.

01:09:53.000 It is one of the most earth-shattering DVDs I have ever seen, in a truthful approach.

01:09:59.000 You know, I have been in this now for almost 20 years, and everything that you're saying in there, I know is either solid fact because I've researched it myself, or have read enough to realize that there is that emphasis on that particular subject that I may not know as much about.

01:10:14.000 And it is incredible what you have done with this, Alex.

01:10:17.000 I just kind of fear for your safety.

01:10:21.000 Well, I literally, you ever have that feeling?

01:10:27.000 I certainly know that I've really crossed a line here, but I'm putting that all in God's hands.

01:10:33.000 Breaking down the film, because you're a big part of it, walk through what you thought, seeing about 90% of it so far, because you just got it yesterday.

01:10:41.000 Walk through the parts that you thought were most important, or give us your impromptu review.

01:10:46.000 Boy, trying to define what's the most important is really tough, because I think it's all important.

01:10:51.000 If you need to understand, and this may be the most important aspect, what the DVD does, if you can keep an open mind, if you're not really aware of the magnitude of what's going on in the world, it will be so shocking, it will almost make you physically sick.

01:11:06.000 But at the same time, what it does is it allows the person to see the magnitude of what they're attempting to do over an entire society.

01:11:15.000 In all aspects of our society, what we do, the whole feminist movement, you name it, it's in there in one form or another, and it's all designed to break down the normal society of controls and re-establish itself What they want to do as the new template for our culture and bringing the nations together as a world government. 0.97

01:11:36.000 There's no question after you see this that this is exactly what they're trying to do.

01:11:41.000 What I really was impressed with is how you have brought the various segments of this using headlines of local papers and so forth to show what they're doing in putting all of this together.

01:11:51.000 The average person Can't see this because all they're seeing is little bits and pieces.

01:11:58.000 They see this headline and they think, oh that's interesting, but they see it in an isolated context.

01:12:02.000 What you have done is been able to put that together in a total, in a totality as it were, so that people can really begin to see how it all fits together.

01:12:11.000 It's the first time I've ever seen that.

01:12:13.000 Well, that's incredible.

01:12:14.000 You know, we didn't talk before the show, and I haven't talked to you in a few months since you were last on, but that is exactly, and I never really even said that on air, that's what I was intending to do, was to give people the, you know, start to finish, just a wide view of what their ideology is, who they are, what their plan is, what drives them.

01:12:34.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:12:36.000 And some of these you only touch on.

01:12:38.000 For instance, at least at this point, you only touched on global warming to some extent.

01:12:42.000 My whole DVD, Global Warming or Global Governance, really focuses on that one issue by itself and shows clearly how they have abused science And totally denied the opposition, any voice in the media and so forth, to push this agenda so that they can get those controls that will come with the carbon taxes and caps and so forth.

01:13:05.000 That is inevitable.

01:13:06.000 It's going to happen in the next several years, how those controls will control us.

01:13:10.000 And you've done that with so many aspects of this particular agenda.

01:13:15.000 It is in every aspect of our culture.

01:13:17.000 And some of them you focused on and gone very deeply into to show how deep this whole thing is to drive the credibility.

01:13:25.000 Some of you only touched on because you just don't have time.

01:13:27.000 You can't cover it in two hours.

01:13:30.000 Well, that's it.

01:13:30.000 I mean, we did spend a lot of time on eugenics and then all the thousands of admissions of where they killed U.S., British and other citizens in admitted tests.

01:13:39.000 I mean, that shows the cold-bloodedness and how it's all done scientifically, though, but as if we have the same value as a white lab rat.

01:13:48.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:13:49.000 Now, eugenics isn't my specialty.

01:13:51.000 I'm not real knowledgeable in that area, but I have read enough material to know that what you're saying is factual.

01:13:57.000 Well, that's right.

01:13:58.000 and it's taken me deeper into that area, giving me some additional information, and you'll find this individually.

01:14:04.000 You can't possibly understand everything in this global agenda.

01:14:08.000 No one person really can.

01:14:10.000 Well, that's right.

01:14:10.000 I mean, you could study one pine tree, as you know, especially, for your whole life and never know everything about that pine tree.

01:14:17.000 We read more than one guy here in the office, read 20 books by these people out there.

01:14:22.000 I read about 10.

01:14:23.000 We went to libraries.

01:14:25.000 And exactly.

01:14:26.000 I mean, you're talking about hundreds of thousands of globalists and their minions and their whole lives' works.

01:14:32.000 I mean, it's just... It's so big.

01:14:36.000 That's the point I want to make.

01:14:39.000 We didn't even... People say, oh, this is really dark, or this is really... You might have exaggerated.

01:14:44.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:14:45.000 It's thousands of times worse.

01:14:47.000 It really is.

01:14:49.000 I cannot explain to you, what would you say in all your years of research about the globalists and the UN Biological Diversity Assessments where they openly talk about exterminating the majority of us and reducing us. 0.94

01:14:59.000 As you were discovering that, what was it like for you realizing, my gosh, these people are nuts, they're psychopaths, they believe they're good, and they're in power. 0.94

01:15:08.000 Exactly. 0.97

01:15:09.000 I went from one state of shock to another, and you know what you have just said is very true.

01:15:14.000 You start opening up this can of worms, and you think you have a handle on what's going on, and then you find out there's another dimension to it, and another dimension to it, and another dimension to it, and it gets worse, and worse, and worse, and I don't even think you probably plumbed the depths of deprivation that these people are in.

01:15:32.000 They are evil incarnate.

01:15:33.000 There's no other way that you can describe them.

01:15:35.000 And yet, they believe that they are doing the right thing.

01:15:41.000 Doc, I want to talk about your video that's doing incredibly well because it's so well documented, and I want to go to the basics of global warming is happening, but it's sun-driven and also particle-driven from space, solar winds.

01:15:53.000 But where do you see all this going?

01:15:56.000 I mean, do you feel the same anxiousness I feel and everybody else feels that it's accelerating?

01:16:00.000 And where do you see this going?

01:16:03.000 I really see, in the next two years, Something precipitous is going to happen.

01:16:08.000 In fact, David Rockefeller and Kissinger and others have actually said that they need a precipitous event to tip us over the edge.

01:16:16.000 9-11 got us prepared and we got legal, you know, the Patriots Act and so forth put into place because of that.

01:16:23.000 And now they need a precipitous event in which they can Use our fear against us, and we'll bring in some sort of an answer.

01:16:32.000 I think it's going to be an economic crisis of some sort.

01:16:34.000 I mean, we're running the brink of it right now anyway.

01:16:38.000 And they have the only solution, and to do that we have to give up even more, and it's going to put us over on the other side of that slope.

01:16:47.000 I think it's very close.

01:16:49.000 Well, I agree. 0.60

01:16:49.000 They see us as a disease, and so that's the perfect rationale for a thug Or a group of killers just to say, oh, well, they're animals anyways. 0.60

01:16:58.000 That's what they always do. 0.99

01:16:59.000 They did that with black slaves out of Africa saying they weren't human. 0.57

01:17:02.000 I mean, you've been to these global meetings.

01:17:04.000 You've covered these people.

01:17:06.000 I've been to some of them.

01:17:07.000 They literally look like cult members, you know, who have that wide-eyed look and are almost pious, very religious.

01:17:15.000 I mean, they almost act like they're holy or something.

01:17:20.000 Well, I'm glad you brought that point up because I want to emphasize the one thing that you did not emphasize very much, you alluded to it a couple of times, is that this whole thing is occult driven.

01:17:30.000 They are very deeply into the occult, they believe in theosophy and what Alice Bailey has done with that belief system of reaching godhood and so forth.

01:17:42.000 They're really into that.

01:17:43.000 They really do believe that they are gods, and they need to be able to control us, to get rid of most of us.

01:17:49.000 They believe that the Earth is overpopulated. 0.97

01:17:52.000 They need to eliminate two-thirds to three-quarters, eighty percent of the human population, of the dumber sect and so forth, that's you and I. And then they'll be able to manage the world the way gods should be able to manage. 0.98

01:18:05.000 It is really incredible, their mentality.

01:18:10.000 When you really get down to it.

01:18:11.000 Now, many of the people at these international meetings, when you enter these international meetings, it is like walking into the twilight zone.

01:18:19.000 Any semblance to reality just slides right out the window at times.

01:18:24.000 It's not always that way, but many times, it is like they start talking about different things in ways that just are not possible.

01:18:33.000 Stay there, I want to talk about that on the other side, to understand our enemy, to understand their mindset.

01:18:38.000 And then to realize how they're conning a lot of well-meaning people who do care about the environment.

01:18:43.000 And how they're using this to totally control our human environment and put a tax on breathing.

01:18:47.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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01:23:39.000 Doctor, again, the mindset of these people, they think they're doing holy work, but then you also study them, they also think darkness is wonderful and beautiful, as well as light.

01:23:52.000 They, quote, embrace it all.

01:23:53.000 Yes, they do.

01:23:53.000 Go ahead.

01:23:55.000 In fact, one of the things that is very prominent with the whole concept of theosophy is what is known as the Secret societies and so forth, so that you do not know what the next level of initiation will be.

01:24:11.000 And as a consequence, you're always striving to get to that next secret level of evolution, as it were, into higher states of knowledge.

01:24:20.000 And as a consequence, what that does is it always keeps people off their guard, that they have to join the system in order to have these truths revealed to them.

01:24:30.000 Which is totally antithetical to a Christian society that we originally established this nation on. 1.00

01:24:35.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

01:24:37.000 But we originally established this nation on, which was open truth.

01:24:42.000 You have everything that you need to have available to you.

01:24:45.000 It's up to you to take it and run with it.

01:24:47.000 With these secret societies, it's always a situation in which you have to prove yourself to be worthy of going to the next step in order to accept the next level of knowledge, this gnosis.

01:25:00.000 I mean, how do we stop these people?

01:25:08.000 I think what you're doing is absolutely essential.

01:25:10.000 You mentioned on the video that more and more people are becoming aware, and that is very true.

01:25:15.000 I kind of take a look at what I produced on global warming or global governance.

01:25:20.000 That's kind of an introductory DVD as it were, as to the realization that we are having this drive towards global governance.

01:25:28.000 I don't get into it very deep, because I'm trying to reach those people who believe that you and I are black helicopter nuts and so forth.

01:25:35.000 Well, here you have really important people saying the same thing that we're saying, but on a much lighter level.

01:25:41.000 And once they begin to expose, and that's one of the things that has encouraged me about this DVD is that I'm getting feedback from people that have been seeing it, which they had no understanding of global governance, or if they did, they thought it was some sort of a nutcase conspiracy type of thing, all of a sudden realizing, because there it is right in front of them, with this global warming agenda, that the whole purpose is to create global governance, and they're angry.

01:26:04.000 Now, once they're angry, you can take a DVD like Endgame, And really show them the breadth of it.

01:26:10.000 Now, they're going to go into a state of absolute shock when they see it.

01:26:13.000 I mean, I did.

01:26:14.000 I think everybody who has really investigated this could never believe the levels of which they have gone to to create this control over you and I. And how long it's taking.

01:26:25.000 I mean, it's taking multiple, multiple generations of men.

01:26:28.000 That's why you have to understand it's the occult.

01:26:30.000 You can't understand why A man would put so much of their efforts into an agenda which they would never see the fruition unless they realized it was a religious belief that they held that their future generations are going to benefit by what they're doing today.

01:26:45.000 I agree, but also in the secular, it's like a 250-year-old university like Harvard or Yale.

01:26:53.000 The chancellors and people that own it and run it want to increase its power and wealth because they sit in the positions of power while they're over it, but then they also have a feeling towards the institution, a lot of times the patronage and nepotism for those beneath them, and so that's also how these institutions grow and maintain their a lot of times the patronage and nepotism for those beneath Absolutely.

01:27:14.000 And it's very interesting as I've attended a lot of these international meetings, the vast majority of those who are attending I have no concept of what the final agenda is going to be.

01:27:24.000 Even people who are in positions of power.

01:27:27.000 You mentioned that in your DVD.

01:27:28.000 They're compartmentalized.

01:27:30.000 They're compartmentalized.

01:27:31.000 They think that they are doing the right thing.

01:27:33.000 Because people that are more important than they are, are telling them that they're doing the right things.

01:27:38.000 And they can see the fruits.

01:27:39.000 You know, socialism, the only reason socialism could survive is the promise that if you did this, created all men equal and so forth, or treated all men equally, not created all men equally, then somehow this is going to bloom into a utopian society and so forth.

01:27:53.000 But for that model, you've got to have command and control and somebody over the individual.

01:27:53.000 They really believe that.

01:27:58.000 Now you've lost the individual and that's the trick.

01:28:00.000 Now you've gotten a system where higher-ups can control you.

01:28:04.000 Absolutely.

01:28:05.000 Absolutely.

01:28:06.000 And socialism is the unique way of gaining control over the population because it does exactly what you're saying.

01:28:12.000 And of course the British monarchs literally funded and developed it, Lord Milner and the rest of them, as a way to get people back in the serfdom. 0.99

01:28:20.000 And people don't realize that.

01:28:20.000 Yes.

01:28:22.000 That's why we're losing our middle class right now.

01:28:25.000 Absolutely.

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01:33:03.000 We've got loaded phone lines here for you, Doc.

01:33:05.000 And I want to take some, but I want to make it clear.

01:33:07.000 Because I've talked to you in the past, and I know we're of the same mind, the same research.

01:33:12.000 This is what you have degrees in.

01:33:13.000 This is what you study.

01:33:15.000 And thousands of other prominent scientists and university experts have gone public on this.

01:33:20.000 We know that there's dioxin from the plastics.

01:33:23.000 We know there's toxins and stuff in the air.

01:33:24.000 We know there's bad things in the environment.

01:33:26.000 Genetic engineering can be dangerous if it's released openly and in chimera cross-species.

01:33:31.000 There's a lot of serious things going on.

01:33:35.000 But the globalists have openly said that they're using conservation and our concern about the Earth to set up world government, to set up total federalization, to have control over people locally, to control markets.

01:33:49.000 And to control populations.

01:33:51.000 And then we know that from 9,000 to 6,000 years ago, the earth was on average 10 degrees hotter.

01:33:57.000 There were vineyards in southern and northern England.

01:34:00.000 You can't grow grapes there now, folks.

01:34:03.000 We know that that's when humanity blooms.

01:34:05.000 We know that's when the plankton blooms.

01:34:06.000 We know that oxygen with higher carbon dioxide creates more life.

01:34:12.000 Carbon dioxide is not a toxic waste, as they're trying to list it.

01:34:15.000 Two weeks ago, they set a coal plant Couldn't burn clean burning coal.

01:34:19.000 They locked that up, as you know.

01:34:21.000 But they didn't just tell them they couldn't have a permit because of dirty coal and mercury, which I'm concerned about.

01:34:25.000 They said, oh, carbon dioxide's a toxic waste.

01:34:28.000 Permit denied.

01:34:29.000 So that's a great control.

01:34:30.000 Now they're talking about, can't have a 3,000 square foot house without government regulators, new bureaucrats, taxes on fuel at every level, taxes on consumption, controlling us.

01:34:41.000 Uh, and again, it sounds reasonable.

01:34:43.000 Oh, we're consuming too much.

01:34:44.000 But this is about control.

01:34:46.000 These are very wicked people that want to get control.

01:34:48.000 And as evil as the globalist are with these international bodies that pose as liberal organizations, they're not.

01:34:54.000 Just as Bush poses as a conservative.

01:34:56.000 They want global taxation to fully be able to bring in An even greater mechanism of control.

01:35:03.000 So can you just explain the scientific facts, in a nutshell, of surprise, surprise, that huge burning ball of different gases that we see up in the sky every day, that that's what's driving the prime mover in climate, as any climatologist will tell you?

01:35:21.000 And, I mean, to claim the carbon dioxide that's been ten times higher in our past, and we've literally had a much higher life load, much healthier, I mean, it's so simple, and I'm not even a scientist, how could it not be clear?

01:35:34.000 How could they fool the public?

01:35:36.000 The answer is, one-fifth of the public can't find the U.S.

01:35:38.000 on a map.

01:35:40.000 They've done the test where you can put out on air the scientific name of water, and people will say, ban it.

01:35:48.000 You give out the scientific name of salt, they'll say ban it.

01:35:51.000 And same with carbon dioxide.

01:35:53.000 The word dioxide, they think it's carbon monoxide.

01:35:56.000 Break it down for us, Doctor.

01:35:58.000 Well, first of all, to keep it a simple thing, you've heard from Al Gore that CO2 causes the Earth to warm.

01:36:05.000 He walks in front of this huge 40-foot screen showing you how there's this correlation between carbon dioxide, When carbon dioxide goes up, temperature goes up.

01:36:14.000 When carbon dioxide goes down, temperature goes down.

01:36:17.000 Well, there's a good correlation there, all right, but the correlations mean nothing.

01:36:20.000 The correlation is 100% of us are going to die if we breathe air.

01:36:26.000 Not because we breathe air, but because there is a relationship there that has nothing to do with cause and effect.

01:36:32.000 And this is the same thing with carbon dioxide and temperature, the Earth's temperature.

01:36:36.000 In fact, if you were to actually superimpose the graph that he has separated, what you would find is that the temperature almost always precedes carbon dioxide, either going up or going down.

01:36:46.000 And if anything, it's the temperature that causes the carbon dioxide levels to change.

01:36:51.000 Why?

01:36:52.000 Because there's 40,000 times more carbon dioxide in our oceans than in the air.

01:36:57.000 And carbon dioxide will go out of solution at warmer temperatures.

01:37:02.000 When the temperatures of the ocean get warmer, the carbon dioxide evaporates off into the atmosphere and the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide goes up.

01:37:09.000 And conversely, when the oceans cool down, it absorbs more carbon dioxide and the atmospheric levels go down.

01:37:15.000 So, it's very easy to explain.

01:37:17.000 Just like you were saying a moment ago, there's good, hard, physical science behind it as to why temperature is causing carbon dioxide to change, not the reverse.

01:37:26.000 Now, when you get to the actual level, information as to why the Earth is warming, a huge amount of research has been done over the last 10 years, and it's just coming to forefront right now, that shows that cosmic radiation from exploding supernovae thousands of light years away, when it finally reaches the Earth, That acts as what's called hydroscopic nuclei that water droplets form around.

01:37:49.000 In other words, clouds, specifically at the lower levels.

01:37:53.000 Now, if you've ever flown in an airplane and you've flown over low clouds, it's almost impossible to look out at them because of their brilliance.

01:38:01.000 So much sun is reflecting off the top of those clouds, it almost hurts your eyes to look at them.

01:38:06.000 Well, this is called albedo, and albedo is the direct reflectance of the solar radiation back out into space, never reaches the Earth's surface.

01:38:15.000 Therefore, lo and behold, and you've seen it every day, that it rains, it's colder underneath clouds than it is when it's sunny outside.

01:38:24.000 Now, every once in a while, on an 11 or 22 year cycle specifically, the sun actually becomes more active, and when it does, It spews out solar winds.

01:38:35.000 If you've ever seen the magnetic storms and the aurora borealis and so forth, that's what happens when you have a very active sun.

01:38:43.000 These solar winds have a tendency to push back this cosmic radiation right out of the sun's heliosphere, right out of our solar system.

01:38:52.000 And as a consequence, when that happens, you have a situation where there is less clouds being formed because there's less cosmic radiation reaching the Earth's surface.

01:39:01.000 Only two to three percent difference, but that's all it takes.

01:39:04.000 You can account for all the global warming that we've had by two to three percent.

01:39:09.000 Reduction in our lower cloud levels over the last 50 to 100 years.

01:39:13.000 And it's been demonstrated that this is almost a 95% correlation.

01:39:18.000 But also, and your film and other films document all the top scientists, they claim that 2,000 plus people signed on to that UN letter a few years ago, and it turned out that hundreds of scientists are saying, I wasn't even contacted, or I was contacted to give information, but I don't agree with this.

01:39:34.000 But also, he claims that heating comes with carbon dioxide, But in the graphs, it's 200 to 600 years after.

01:39:42.000 Carbon dioxide always follows heating, because heating causes photoplankton and plant blooms, which then increase carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

01:39:52.000 It's an absolute ice core, and every other sampling, NASA sampling, that carbon dioxide follows warming because the plant life forms Exhaling in their respiration more carbon dioxide.

01:40:07.000 I mean, it's a 2 plus 2 equals 4, but I can sit here and say to the public, how dare you, Dr. Michael Coffman, wanting to poison our children with hydrogen oxide?

01:40:19.000 How dare you with deadly hydrogen oxide?

01:40:23.000 Well, hydrogen oxide, tell them what hydrogen oxide is.

01:40:27.000 Well, you can't live without hydrogen oxide.

01:40:29.000 It's water.

01:40:31.000 Uh, you can't live more than three or four days without it.

01:40:33.000 And, you know, water will kill you if you drowned in it.

01:40:36.000 It will kill you if you drink it.

01:40:37.000 But, you know, they've gone out, different crews, and gone out to environmental, you know, fairs and walked up and said, we've got to ban this.

01:40:42.000 Sign our petition.

01:40:43.000 Hydrogen dioxide.

01:40:44.000 That was in fixed signatures.

01:40:45.000 90 plus percent.

01:40:47.000 Oh my gosh.

01:40:48.000 Oh, ban it immediately. 0.55

01:40:49.000 It's the same thing with carbon dioxide, folks.

01:40:53.000 Oxygen.

01:40:55.000 Oxygen.

01:40:56.000 And two hydrogen.

01:40:57.000 Yes.

01:40:58.000 Oxygen, carbon dioxide, and water, H2O, are the three major building blocks.

01:41:04.000 Then you add to that the energy of the sun, and those are the four total building blocks.

01:41:11.000 Are those not the most important building blocks?

01:41:14.000 Absolutely.

01:41:15.000 I mean, there are many others too, but those are the big three.

01:41:17.000 There's no question about it.

01:41:19.000 You can't live without one of those.

01:41:21.000 If one of those is missing, we would not have life on planet Earth.

01:41:25.000 But, how dare the plants spew this deadly waste?

01:41:29.000 I mean, they're assaulting our children with deadly carbon dioxide!

01:41:36.000 Well, you know, that's the other fallacy of this whole thing, is the fact that there's less than 1% of all the greenhouse gases that is made up of man-caused, or man-emitted carbon dioxide.

01:41:47.000 The rest of it is all natural.

01:41:49.000 Even carbon dioxide.

01:41:51.000 Carbon dioxide Ninety-seven percent of it is naturally created by trees, plants, and other sundry things.

01:41:58.000 But, I mean, the botanists and experts have found that plants can grow three times faster, live longer, be healthier.

01:42:04.000 They create higher oxygen.

01:42:06.000 They've done studies and found that they believe that during the Hyborian Maxim 7,000 years ago, that humans were healthier because of higher oxygen.

01:42:13.000 They dug up the bones.

01:42:16.000 Absolutely.

01:42:16.000 It really is.

01:42:16.000 It's amazing.

01:42:17.000 that we're actually in an oxygen-starved, carbon dioxide-starved mode, and the carbon dioxide is mother's milk to life.

01:42:24.000 Absolutely, and it really is.

01:42:26.000 It's amazing.

01:42:27.000 There's been literally thousands of these studies being done to show that food production, for instance, can be doubled, increased by 50% with a doubling of carbon dioxide, doubled with a tripling of carbon dioxide.

01:42:38.000 And the oceans, the plankton do better, then the krill, then the shrimp, then the minnows, then the larger fish up to the bluefin tuna and the great whites.

01:42:47.000 This would be good for the ocean, but they don't want it! 0.63

01:42:51.000 Well, it's not that they don't want it. 0.98

01:42:53.000 They don't want us to know about it, because if we know about it, we'll know how much of a fool they are and we won't go along with their agenda. 0.97

01:42:59.000 They're using this whole thing as an agenda item in order to enslave us. 0.97

01:43:03.000 As you said in your DVD, there is no question of this.

01:43:06.000 There is no viable science, and I'll say this, In a hard and fast way, there is no direct science that shows that man is causing global warming.

01:43:15.000 I have looked at literally thousands of research results, and there is none.

01:43:20.000 There's a lot of circumstantial evidence, but so what?

01:43:23.000 The hard evidence that we do have suggests that what we're seeing today is part of a natural cycle, and we're recovering from what is called the Little Ice Age, back in the 1700s and 1800s.

01:43:34.000 It's a natural warming, and thank God, because back in the Little Ice Age, that's when you had the Black Flakes of Europe and mass starvation because crop failures and all the rest. 0.96

01:43:44.000 Huge snowstorms is when the Thames River and London froze over every year.

01:43:48.000 It was a horrible time.

01:43:51.000 We're recovering from that.

01:43:52.000 We do not want to go back to that.

01:43:54.000 Why do you want to hurt our children?

01:43:55.000 Why do you want to hurt our children, Dr. Kaufman, wanting them to ingest the deadly poison sodium chloride?

01:44:01.000 Well, that is unfortunately the only tactic they can use to try to discredit us.

01:44:06.000 But sodium chloride is deadly!

01:44:08.000 It's in poor people.

01:44:09.000 Yes, ban sodium chloride.

01:44:10.000 Tell folks what sodium chloride is.

01:44:12.000 Salt.

01:44:13.000 You eat it every day. 0.99

01:44:14.000 Again, the scientific terms scare the buffoonish, dumbed-down public. 0.98

01:44:19.000 I mean, 50 years ago they would never have gotten away with this. 0.97

01:44:21.000 People knew too much.

01:44:23.000 People knew too much.

01:44:23.000 No.

01:44:25.000 It was part of our high school education, if not our elementary education, and all that material has been taken out.

01:44:31.000 Our history courses have been dumbed down to very mundane types of understanding of history, totally eliminating the concept of what private property rights mean to wealth creation and all the rest.

01:44:44.000 You and I, when we grew up, well maybe not you, maybe you were too late, You're a lot younger than I am, but when I grew up, it was part of our curricula.

01:44:51.000 We understood how important private property rights are, or how important this is, and that's not being taught anymore.

01:44:57.000 Oh no, we were just taught that world government was good and handing in guns is good. 0.67

01:45:00.000 I want to take some calls, but if folks want Global Warming or Global Government, your DVD film, it's available.

01:45:06.000 At Infowars.com.

01:45:07.000 You can also get it discounted with Endgame together as a combo pack on Infowars.com.

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01:45:13.000 Let's say you know all about this.

01:45:15.000 You're a scientist.

01:45:16.000 You're a researcher.

01:45:16.000 You're a biologist.

01:45:17.000 You're a lay scientist.

01:45:18.000 A tinkerer.

01:45:19.000 You know these basics.

01:45:20.000 Your neighbors don't, folks.

01:45:21.000 They think sodium chloride is cyanide.

01:45:25.000 They've done studies where they tell people that and they believe it.

01:45:27.000 They believe that water, if you give them the scientific term, is poison.

01:45:31.000 They believe that Carbon dioxide, literal main engine driver for all life.

01:45:36.000 It's plants of the basis.

01:45:38.000 They're at the bottom of the food chain.

01:45:40.000 They believe it's a devil gas. 1.00

01:45:42.000 And again, they're treating us like ignorant morons. 1.00

01:45:45.000 And it's got to stop. 1.00

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01:45:56.000 Let's jam in some calls here.

01:45:58.000 Don in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:46:02.000 Go ahead, Don.

01:46:03.000 I'd like to return to the subject that you brought up, sir, of theosophy, and I'd like to comment on what Alex often says.

01:46:12.000 It's not actually what we believe that's important, it's important what they believe, because they're actually making the moves off of their beliefs, so whether it's true or not, the fact that they believe that is very Exactly.

01:46:24.000 Every time I talk about the globalists being occultic, atheists send me emails going, I don't believe in that, you kook. 1.00

01:46:29.000 Okay, it doesn't matter.

01:46:31.000 Hitler wasn't an occultist.

01:46:32.000 It doesn't mean you believe in that.

01:46:33.000 The point is, that's what's driving him.

01:46:35.000 You know, the hillside strangler, Mr. Satan, believed he was doing it for the devil.

01:46:39.000 Even if you don't believe in the devil, he believes in you, and you know, he's Richard Ramirez or whatever.

01:46:45.000 Dr. Kaufman?

01:46:46.000 Absolutely.

01:46:47.000 I would agree with you.

01:46:48.000 It's not what we believe, it's what they believe when they're in the seat of power.

01:46:52.000 That they're going to impose on you and I. I mean, that's what a criminologist does.

01:46:55.000 Understand our enemies.

01:46:56.000 We understand what makes them tick.

01:46:59.000 That's exactly what I was going to say.

01:47:01.000 You posed a question earlier, Alex, of how do we stop these guys, and I would contend that we should learn as much about what they believe as possible.

01:47:11.000 However, that is a slippery slope, and Doctor, I'd like for you to comment on this.

01:47:15.000 Once you start learning about what They know there's so much disinformation within what they're learning.

01:47:23.000 It seems to me that the root of theosophy and all of this occult stuff is a concept called star-seeding, and I'd like you to comment on this, that they actually believe that they are descendants of a cross between alien and the human species, and that is what separates them from the normal man.

01:47:40.000 Yes, in fact, not all of them believe that, necessarily, but I have read in the... No, we're hearing this a lot now.

01:47:44.000 It's really popular.

01:47:46.000 Yes.

01:47:48.000 In fact, you have to, you know, the whole thing is set up by the concept of evolution.

01:47:51.000 I'm not going to get into an evolutionary discussion right now.

01:47:54.000 But it's set up by evolution, and therefore, they are part of the new gene pool that was brought in from other planets and so forth.

01:48:02.000 Well, that's even what the BBC is saying now.

01:48:04.000 We're going to split into two groups.

01:48:05.000 I appreciate your call.

01:48:07.000 Robert in California, you're on the air.

01:48:09.000 Go ahead.

01:48:12.000 Good morning, gentlemen.

01:48:14.000 Yeah, a couple of things.

01:48:16.000 One is that I was doing some research on what the terminology that you keep using, Luciferian, they believe in an evolutionary process from Homo sapien to Homo divinus.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, and that predates Darwin.

01:48:30.000 See, Darwin didn't think any of this up.

01:48:32.000 And we're not getting into... I agree.

01:48:33.000 We're not having a debate about evolution, folks.

01:48:36.000 We're telling what they believe.

01:48:37.000 That's all we're doing.

01:48:39.000 See, I don't even attack Darwin in this film.

01:48:41.000 I just state what he believed.

01:48:42.000 I show the documents, the books he wrote.

01:48:45.000 Dr. Kaufman?

01:48:47.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:48:48.000 It is... Again, you have to understand what they believe.

01:48:51.000 You know, I wrote the book, Saviors of the Earth, a number of years ago.

01:48:53.000 It's still available on my website.

01:48:56.000 I wrote that book trying to help people understand what is motivating the environmental movement and where it's coming from and what they believe in, because unless you understand what they believe in, you will not know where they're going.

01:49:06.000 It's one of the reasons I was able to stop right an hour before the Senate was to vote on it, the Convention on Biological Diversity.

01:49:13.000 Because I knew exactly what they were trying to do.

01:49:15.000 I explained it to the Senate.

01:49:16.000 They didn't believe me.

01:49:17.000 And I finally got the evidence, the smoking gun, the day before that they were supposed to vote on it and send it down to the U.S.

01:49:24.000 Senate.

01:49:25.000 And it was introduced on the Senate floor an hour before the scheduled vote for ratification of this treaty.

01:49:29.000 And it just literally blew it right out of the water.

01:49:31.000 You have to know where they're going.

01:49:33.000 Robert, stay there.

01:49:34.000 I'm gonna let you finish up.

01:49:35.000 Then Richard and Will, that'll be it for Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:49:37.000 Then we got the two-time Super Bowl champion, five-time pro bowler, speaking out for 9-11 Truth, scheduled.

01:49:43.000 We'll be right back.

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01:53:19.000 Dr. Michael Coffman is our guest.

01:53:21.000 Is Robert from California still there?

01:53:22.000 Some answer.

01:53:25.000 Yeah, they think they're going to be homo-divine.

01:53:28.000 They think they're going to be the new God-man.

01:53:28.000 That's right.

01:53:31.000 That's the whole push since the Greek philosophers.

01:53:33.000 Any other comments?

01:53:35.000 Yeah, and also a couple of news points.

01:53:37.000 One, I don't know if you already covered this or not.

01:53:43.000 Pat Robertson has just endorsed Billy Giuliani.

01:53:46.000 That's all you're hearing.

01:53:48.000 Yeah, pro-abortion. 0.87

01:53:50.000 Oh, by the way, I actually heard the radio ad.

01:53:53.000 Pastor Hagee says Jesus is not the Savior.

01:53:57.000 And again, this is a new show.

01:53:59.000 A major supposed evangelical preacher says Jesus is not the Messiah.

01:54:05.000 And yeah, I'm just reading that right now.

01:54:05.000 Right.

01:54:08.000 It happened 11 o'clock a.m.

01:54:10.000 today.

01:54:11.000 Also, a little point on what you've been saying, Alex, about them ratcheting up the war machine.

01:54:17.000 I've been driving around L.A.

01:54:18.000 listening to all the talk show radios on the a.m.

01:54:22.000 dials around here, and they just keep talking about nuclear strike, nuclear strike, nuclear strike.

01:54:26.000 So I think we should be Hold on to our socks, as they say.

01:54:31.000 I agree.

01:54:32.000 I mean, to hear Hagee, and this is not a religious show, but this is the guy who's all pro-war, knew Kyran all this, and Dr. Kaufman, the network even has the club I'll play at tomorrow.

01:54:42.000 I mean, can you believe he actually is saying that now?

01:54:46.000 No, I'm stunned.

01:54:47.000 I'm stunned that Pat Robertson would support Giuliani, too.

01:54:50.000 I mean, just, that is so far from what they had been preaching for all their lives.

01:54:55.000 It's just beyond what I could conceive of.

01:54:59.000 We're seeing it all happen right now.

01:55:02.000 We're seeing it all.

01:55:03.000 Imagine 11,000 members of that guy's church down in San Antonio, and they all just sit there loving it.

01:55:08.000 I mean, they'll buy anything.

01:55:09.000 See, once you buy into torture and world government and corruption and police state, you buy into it all.

01:55:15.000 Rich in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Michael Kaufman.

01:55:18.000 Another quick news item, and then on to something a little bit more pertinent.

01:55:18.000 Hi, guys.

01:55:23.000 I've read on Rents today that we have grounded all of our F-15s on a worldwide basis, including in Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:55:31.000 And secondly, I wanted to reinforce the request that you urgently get Jim Phelps from GOE Watch on to your show.

01:55:41.000 He takes this information to an even deeper hole.

01:55:44.000 He's a whistleblower that was involved with Oak Ridge.

01:55:48.000 For his second generation, his father was in it as well and died from contamination there.

01:55:53.000 And there's just a monstrous amount of information out there that I think you would really enjoy getting into.

01:55:58.000 Absolutely.

01:56:00.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

01:56:01.000 Dr. Cobham, we're out of time.

01:56:03.000 Fire out your excellent website.

01:56:05.000 It's discerningtoday.org.

01:56:07.000 discerningtoday.org.

01:56:12.000 And again, mention that book that's still in print.

01:56:15.000 Saviors of the Earth?

01:56:16.000 And what I do is I basically define exactly where the environmental movement came from, and more importantly, what they really believe in, in the leadership of the environmental movement.

01:56:25.000 Where they're taking us into this occult belief that nature is God and we must worship nature.

01:56:32.000 All I know is that everything is being turned upside down right now.

01:56:36.000 It is.

01:56:37.000 And the economy is gyrating downwards into the abyss, and the neocons are on radio just jabbering about World War III and everything else.

01:56:47.000 We are definitely in the middle of massive change, and it's only going to accelerate.

01:56:52.000 Dr. Michael Coffman, thank you so much for spending time with us today.

01:56:56.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

01:56:58.000 Alright ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get an amazing individual on the line with us.

01:57:05.000 After this break, Mark Stepnowski, and many of you know who he is if you're football fans, I remember watching him on television myself back when I still had time to watch television and football games back in the mid-1990s.

01:57:16.000 Growing up in Dallas, quite a Cowboys fan, and he has eloquently spoken out for 9-11 Truth, and he's scheduled to join us coming up in the next hour with some other big 9-11 breaking news as well.

01:57:30.000 Stay with us.

01:57:35.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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01:57:41.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:55.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Last week, George Carlin, legendary top comedian in the country, Went public and said he doesn't believe the official story and questions it.

01:58:17.000 Martin Sheen, of course, last week also went public.

01:58:20.000 You heard it here first.

01:58:21.000 Charlie Sheen, his son, last year was the first big star to go public.

01:58:26.000 Now we've had a bunch of other top Hollywood stars and others go public.

01:58:29.000 And the point is, is this takes a lot of courage for him to do, and more and more people are starting to stand up and speak out.

01:58:36.000 We had a story a couple days ago, former NFL star, latest to question, 9-11 official story, ex-Dallas Cowboys lineman Stipnoski tells Indiana newspaper of doubts and I believe Paul got that part of the headline wrong right there, but let me give you his bio then we're going to go to him.

01:58:55.000 Matthew Stepnoski is a former American football offensive lineman in the NFL.

01:58:59.000 He attended Cathedral Preparatory School in Erie, Pennsylvania, and went on to star at the University of Pittsburgh.

01:59:05.000 Stepnoski's pro career in the NFL was spent with the Dallas Cowboys from 89 to 94, and then back from 99 to 2000, and the Houston Oilers from 95 to 98.

01:59:13.000 Stepnoski won two Super Bowls while with the Cowboys.

01:59:17.000 I remember watching those.

01:59:18.000 And was a five-time pro bowler, attending the game from 92 through 96.

01:59:22.000 Also notable among his achievements Are the contributions he made to help Emmett Smith become the all-time rushing champion of the NFL?

01:59:31.000 Absolutely!

01:59:32.000 And again, in November 2007, Sapnowski expressed support for the 9-11 Truth Movement, and he is also working with Normal, which I don't smoke marijuana, it makes me paranoid, but I think it should be legalized.

01:59:44.000 George Washington smoked it, and it has thousands, it's a miracle drug, much bigger than aspirin, And, uh, Mattel's throwing you in jail for that, but you can take Ritalin and Prozac all day, or Hillbilly Heroin, or the Oxycontin.

01:59:56.000 But, uh, sir, I am so honored to have you on with us.

02:00:00.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:00:01.000 It's great to be here with you today.

02:00:02.000 I want to, just out of the gate, when we come back from break, get into 9-11 truth.

02:00:06.000 And I talked to you during the break.

02:00:08.000 You told me when you woke up to it, the day it happened.

02:00:10.000 Same here.

02:00:11.000 And then I want to talk about normal, because the whole war on drugs is obviously very important.

02:00:15.000 But, um, talk about that day, 9-11.

02:00:18.000 Yeah, that was a two today, which that was my last year playing football in the NFL and that was our day off.

02:00:27.000 So I happened to catch a decent amount of it on TV.

02:00:30.000 And I just remember at the time thinking to myself, you know, is this really a terrorist attack on us by a foreign nation?

02:00:37.000 Or is this a false flag operation being conducted by our government?

02:00:42.000 And the reason I say that is because for years leading up to that, I had read several books about the Kennedy assassination, about Watergate, and also an excellent book, Oklahoma City and the Politics of Terror.

02:00:55.000 Yes.

02:00:56.000 Which really kind of laid out a lot of the unofficial story about that event.

02:01:02.000 And I noticed there were a lot of parallels between that event and 9-11, as far as bombs being found in the building, scientists coming out and saying that an ammonium nitrate bomb could never cause that much damage, I read another book about McVeigh's trial called Others Unknown, which was actually written by the gentleman who represented him, and he was convinced that there were other people involved in that event that never were brought to justice.

02:01:31.000 So there were just a lot of similarities between the two.

02:01:34.000 And, you know, once that event occurred, I was skeptical.

02:01:39.000 And then obviously, you know, once you start following it from the get-go, you're exposed Constantly, the information to reinforce your belief.

02:01:49.000 Exactly, I've tried to disprove my own research, but take Oklahoma City, or the first World Trade Center, where the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver, gave them the detonator.

02:01:58.000 Now lawyers have gone in, gotten the admissions from Terry Nichols that McVeigh was a government agent.

02:02:04.000 We already knew that.

02:02:05.000 Now the Southern Poverty Law Center, it's come out in federal documents, was basically running Elohim City, the white supremacist compound.

02:02:12.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:02:14.000 Yeah, there's so much, again, the two events, there's so much information behind the scenes.

02:02:21.000 Well, you're a well-known iconoclast, known for being quite intellectual in your own right, and I'm just very impressed just talking to you in a few minutes here.

02:02:27.000 I'm very excited about the 55 minutes we've got left with you, sir.

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02:05:51.000 As usual, we're having great discussions during the breaks. we're having great discussions during the breaks.

02:06:14.000 Mark Stepnowski.

02:06:16.000 He is our guest.

02:06:18.000 He is a five-time pro bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, and he's the guy that opened up those big holes and credited most of those big holes and driving through so that him and Schmitz could get that all-time record.

02:06:32.000 And I asked him what he wanted to talk about, and he said, hey, 9-11 is a big issue.

02:06:35.000 We'll talk some about the war on drugs.

02:06:37.000 And absolutely, I agree with him.

02:06:39.000 And I think that the Angle we were just taking in the last segment of how you woke up, and now we're learning a little bit more than we learned in the Erie newspaper from Monday, that you woke up because you'd studied history.

02:06:54.000 And again, history, knowing the past, we then know the future.

02:06:58.000 So let's walk through and maybe recap.

02:07:02.000 You've got the floor, sir.

02:07:03.000 Expand on how you were already aware of false flag, what you thought that day, and why you've taken this major plunge going public for 9-11 Truth.

02:07:13.000 Well, I just think that, you know, growing up reading books about the Kennedy assassination, books like High Treason, you know, there's so many books out there and videos.

02:07:24.000 The Men Who Killed Kennedy, the five-part series that's played on cable television, was really well done.

02:07:30.000 But that was just a great introduction over the years of, you know, some of the clandestine activities that occur with the military and with the intelligence services, things that you're never going to see in mainstream media.

02:07:46.000 And then again, you know, just going along that line throughout that time period, studying the Vietnam War, Watergate, all these things that Signify a cover-up by the government.

02:08:00.000 As time goes on, you become more and more aware, as a citizen, that secrecy is the rule of the day with our government.

02:08:09.000 And any time that anything revelatory comes to light regarding the nefarious activities of our government, it's immediately discredited and hushed up.

02:08:20.000 So, you know, fortunately we live in an era where alternative media provides true sources of information that can't be sanitized by corporations.

02:08:33.000 If I can just add, speaking of the Kennedy assassination, now over 90% of Americans in major polls believe the government killed him.

02:08:39.000 Well, they better.

02:08:40.000 I mean, E. Howard Hunt now Now, deathbed confession, only Rolling Stone reports on it.

02:08:44.000 I mean, we now have the CIA section chief, the guy who was photographed at the scene by the Dallas Morning News, Dallas Times Herald, now admitting that he did indeed run the op to kill him, and it's not on the national news!

02:08:58.000 Absolutely, and we see things like that all the time.

02:09:02.000 Recently, this past summer, documents were released proving that the CIA often worked hand-in-hand with organized crime figures to implement their plans.

02:09:14.000 All these things that at the time would have been considered quote-unquote conspiracy theory are now being substantiated as being true.

02:09:23.000 So again, fortunately we live in a time where information is a little bit more accessible, so it's becoming harder and harder for a corrupt government to cover up their illegal activities.

02:09:34.000 You know, in the 60s it took years and years before the Zapruder film was even released.

02:09:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:40.000 Now people can see things right away.

02:09:42.000 Now they admit Goldflin Tonkin was staged just as we always knew.

02:09:46.000 Now they declassified totally staged.

02:09:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:49.000 I thought the movie The Fog of War with Robert McNamara did a great job of just letting people know what that behind the scenes planning consists of, you know.

02:10:00.000 And there's so many parallels.

02:10:02.000 You know, you look at that, the false intelligence leading to war, same thing that's going on now.

02:10:07.000 You know, history really does repeat itself.

02:10:09.000 But like you said earlier, if people don't read and they're not familiar with history, it's not as apparent to them that these things happen over and over again throughout time.

02:10:20.000 Well, history's like having the other team's playbook, isn't it?

02:10:23.000 Yes, it is.

02:10:25.000 When you see modern events unfold around you, it's a lot easier to interpret them if you have read their mail, so to speak, ahead of time.

02:10:37.000 Now, what made you decide to take the blinds for 9-11 Truth?

02:10:42.000 Well, it just became a question of not really being able to be quiet about it anymore.

02:10:47.000 I've talked to my friends about it all the time for the last six years.

02:10:51.000 You know, I'll gladly speak with anybody who wants to talk about it.

02:10:55.000 Initially, you know, people were very reluctant to even entertain the possibility that it was an inside job.

02:11:01.000 But again, as the years have gone on, as time has gone on, you know, now we're, you know, six, seven years out, enough information is out there to where people are willing to consider it more seriously.

02:11:13.000 You know, you're probably familiar with Peter Phillips from Project Censored.

02:11:18.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:11:20.000 I love that, his books, read them every year.

02:11:22.000 He calls it a threshold concept.

02:11:25.000 You know, people really need to get to the point where they can assimilate enough information to make that leap.

02:11:32.000 To go, to think, you know, beyond the parameters that they already possess.

02:11:37.000 It's like, once we finally believe that we can fly, within a few years of thousands of tinkerers trying it, the Wright Brothers at Kitty Hawk were able to do it, or Copernicus had enough knowledge to finally convince people the world was round and not flat, or Galileo, that the Earth orbited the Sun, not the Sun the Earth.

02:11:54.000 Yeah, people, when you try to hit them with this all at once, if they're totally uninformed and this information is entirely foreign to them, they're really not willing to entertain it, because it's just too much of a paradigm shift for them.

02:12:11.000 But for people who gradually are exposed to more and more information, it's less and less of a shock to them.

02:12:17.000 I think we've reached that point now, because honestly, When you look at the information that's out there and the credibility of the sources, anybody now who still believes the official story of 9-11 is either incredibly naive or exhibiting complete and total denial.

02:12:38.000 Well, we know denial is certainly a powerful factor, but Did you decide to really speak out and go public?

02:12:46.000 I mean, I'm just asking because you think things are getting more serious or that they may be planning something else.

02:12:52.000 I mean, I'm just speculating because more people that I've talked to that are going public now say that's their reason.

02:12:57.000 I mean, does that play any factor here?

02:12:59.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:13:01.000 You know, we have the desire to start a third war since 9-11 in Iran. 0.91

02:13:09.000 You know, there are stories of missing nuclear warheads floating around.

02:13:13.000 You know, you read the Kenneth Bunkport warning online.

02:13:16.000 There are many people worried about Cheney staging another false flag attack.

02:13:21.000 He's already come out and said the next time it happens, it'll be in the form of a nuclear, a mini-nuke somewhere in a U.S.

02:13:27.000 city.

02:13:28.000 And anybody who is familiar with all these military exercises that are constantly going on, they realize that not a lot of people are needed to pull off a false flag attack like that.

02:13:41.000 Well, what about Colonel Butler?

02:13:42.000 Defense Language School tells the AP in San Jose Mercury News that they train hijackers in secret spy programs at the base.

02:13:49.000 Mr. Springman, the head of the U.S.

02:13:50.000 Embassy, ordered to let hijackers back into the country and was told, don't worry, the terror designation is their cover, they're government agents.

02:13:58.000 I mean, that right there, and those are only a few of thousands of smoking guns.

02:14:02.000 Drills of the exact same buildings attacked at the exact same time by aircraft, and then Bush says he never heard of a plan to attack buildings with planes?

02:14:10.000 Yeah, it's really absurd.

02:14:12.000 When you think back to the time prior to 9-11, all the precautions that were taken at the GA Summit in Italy, you know, these are all scenarios that have been discussed by policymakers.

02:14:23.000 They know what the threats are.

02:14:25.000 They know the technology that's out there and what's possible.

02:14:29.000 Now, the general public doesn't know.

02:14:30.000 So then, obviously, when they see this scenario envelop, they don't think of it in terms of a drill or an exercise gone live.

02:14:39.000 They think of it in terms of, you know, a terrorist attack from an outside entity.

02:14:43.000 But again, when you listen to the transcripts of the air traffic controllers on the day of 9-11, the first words out of their mouth was, is this live or is this an exercise?

02:14:53.000 And then they said, I've never seen so much real world going on during an exercise.

02:15:01.000 Yeah, and I think, you know, you read a book like Crossing the Rubicon by Mike Rupert, or 9-11 Synthetic Terror Made in the USA by Webster Tarpley.

02:15:13.000 These guys do a great job of highlighting how many military exercises were taking place on that day and how they served to Make the event possible and also to confuse people at the time who are in charge of trying to deter things like that from happening.

02:15:33.000 But again, I sometimes think that people don't realize how much influence the military has on everyday life in the US.

02:15:43.000 Well, then there was also Tripod 2 going on where they did a simulation of terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center complex with the Port Authority.

02:15:53.000 They'd moved the emergency management center the week before out to the end of the pier, out of the big spook complex, Building 7.

02:16:00.000 Then the head of FEMA in New York says, yeah, we deployed the night of September 10th.

02:16:04.000 Then he backed off and said I was wrong.

02:16:06.000 Then Giuliani said I was told to get out of the building because Tower 1 and 2 were going to fall, and we were running an exercise.

02:16:12.000 Then he said he didn't say it, but then we had the video and audio of it.

02:16:15.000 So it's not, I mean, it's incredible.

02:16:17.000 Yeah, there are just too many lies for people to go back and, you know, cover them up.

02:16:24.000 It's such a web of lies that, you know, people like Giuliani have already contradicted themselves repeatedly.

02:16:30.000 But again, you know, when you think about the similarities to the Oklahoma City bombing, you know, that day the alcohol, tobacco, and firearm agents who were employed in that building didn't show up for work.

02:16:42.000 And then showed up a minute after in full bomb gear and the police said, why are you here?

02:16:46.000 And they said, we got a tip.

02:16:48.000 Exactly.

02:16:50.000 The same way that John Ashcroft got a tip not to fly commercially before 11.

02:16:54.000 The same way Willie Brown got a tip not to fly beforehand.

02:16:58.000 Yeah, I mean, there are too many instances of foreknowledge to be discounted.

02:17:05.000 Mark Stepnoski, two-time Super Bowl champion, five-time Pro Bowler, Dallas Cowboys, and of course Houston Oilers.

02:17:11.000 When we come back, I want to talk to you about their mindset, how they love to brag.

02:17:16.000 The PNAC documents, Cheney saying we need a terror attack, a big event.

02:17:20.000 Brzezinski saying it.

02:17:22.000 Why do you think they've been so arrogant?

02:17:25.000 Are they operating on the old 50s, 60s paradigm as Cold War dinosaurs?

02:17:29.000 And where do you think this is all going?

02:17:32.000 Because the jig is up with 84% in major polls not believing the official story, as high as 68% believing inside job.

02:17:40.000 We'll be back with Mark Stepnowski right after this quick break.

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02:23:38.000 Richard in Texas.

02:23:39.000 You're on the air.

02:23:41.000 Yes, sir.

02:23:41.000 Alex.

02:23:42.000 Alex, how you doing?

02:23:44.000 I'll tell you what, it's a great show here the last few days, especially about the Zogby Pole stuff. 1.00

02:23:49.000 That's really great stuff.

02:23:50.000 You've been exposing them, how they operate.

02:23:53.000 We did it, Dale.

02:23:53.000 Absolutely.

02:23:54.000 Let's hear it.

02:23:54.000 A lot of thanks.

02:23:56.000 Well, it sure has.

02:23:56.000 I'm looking forward to hearing some more on that.

02:23:59.000 Hey, listen, I know you're one of the originators of the Info Bomb, and we saw the viral effect and the way it took off with the Money Bomb, and so now, here in Austin, we've launched the Primary Bomb.

02:24:10.000 And the Primary Bomb is what we need to do in conjunction with this Ron Paul campaign, is we need to work really hard at unelecting every incumbent possible, all the way from dog catcher The City Council, to the State Rep, to the U.S.

02:24:23.000 Rep, and to the U.S.

02:24:24.000 Senate.

02:24:25.000 We need to send Ron Paul all the help he can get by sending A hundred or two hundred freshmen into that House of Representatives next week.

02:24:33.000 I agree.

02:24:33.000 Vote out incumbents unless you know their record and they're good.

02:24:35.000 There aren't many.

02:24:37.000 And just froth, basically.

02:24:39.000 Get involved in election watch groups like Vote Rescue in Austin and other groups around the country.

02:24:43.000 Go to Black Box Voting and find out different groups.

02:24:45.000 Just start going in different directions.

02:24:47.000 Just start frenzying.

02:24:48.000 I mean, if we just start running in all directions and snapping and biting and getting the word out, we can't be stopped.

02:24:54.000 Get moving, folks.

02:24:55.000 You don't have to be perfect.

02:24:56.000 You don't have to have all the answers.

02:24:59.000 Absolutely.

02:25:01.000 And, you know, we're sitting here in a world of soundbites, so I figured if we could call this the primary bomb, and that way we've got a one-word expression that encompasses that effort to unelect every incumbent.

02:25:14.000 A primary surge.

02:25:17.000 Primary bomb, primary surge, whatever, but just go to primarybomb.com and it just simply states, hey, let's unelect all these incumbents.

02:25:26.000 So hopefully we can just put that on the wrong side.

02:25:28.000 Who launched that shot?

02:25:29.000 Is that you, Richard?

02:25:30.000 Yeah, I set it up.

02:25:31.000 I set it up and it's just all it is.

02:25:32.000 It's just a blog.

02:25:33.000 It's got one paragraph on there.

02:25:35.000 Real simple.

02:25:36.000 No ads or nothing like that.

02:25:37.000 No, that's a good idea.

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02:25:41.000 That's right.

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02:25:43.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:25:44.000 Hey, thanks, Richard.

02:25:46.000 Oh, by the way, Richard, give me a call.

02:25:47.000 Richard did camera work for us in New York.

02:25:49.000 I just gave him a little camera and we watched the video.

02:25:52.000 He's quite a savant with the camera.

02:25:56.000 Charles in Michigan.

02:25:58.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:25:59.000 Hey, how's it going?

02:26:00.000 Good.

02:26:01.000 I want to thank you for taking my call.

02:26:01.000 Good.

02:26:03.000 This is the only way I get a chance to actually listen to your program here in Michigan because we don't have any affiliates here and I don't have internet access.

02:26:09.000 Okay, go ahead, sir.

02:26:10.000 You're on air.

02:26:11.000 Thanks a lot.

02:26:12.000 I wanted to say that Kerry and Gore, of course, they won.

02:26:18.000 But you know, they put in who they wanted to put in, and Clinton, now they're spending this to where, oh, she has all this experience.

02:26:24.000 She has experience. 0.96

02:26:26.000 Experience of being a witch and a criminal. 0.98

02:26:29.000 Exactly. 0.88

02:26:30.000 And now they have Giuliani, now he's Mr. 9-11, Mr. 9-11, Mr. 9-11. 0.81

02:26:35.000 It gets to be so ridiculous, it's comical, but it's not comical. 0.84

02:26:40.000 I mean, you want to cry. 0.95

02:26:41.000 You want to see what it is that you can do.

02:26:43.000 And I'm trying to get a radio station here in Detroit, Michigan.

02:26:46.000 And I'm trying to put your information out there and I'm trying to do everything I can.

02:26:50.000 And I'm voting for Ron Paul.

02:26:53.000 Awesome!

02:26:54.000 And that's all I had to say.

02:26:55.000 Well, God bless you.

02:26:56.000 You know the problem.

02:26:57.000 We've got quite a few AM and FM stations for a stand-alone, independent, small network.

02:27:01.000 I mean, there's like 300-something affiliates of different shows on Genesis.

02:27:06.000 I've got like 50-something stations in growing that carry us live, a few dozen more that carry us on the weekend.

02:27:11.000 But, you know, the big companies have bought up everything and they put their talk show host on syndicated because they then get all the ads.

02:27:18.000 And, uh, but there are mom and pops, I guarantee you, going into Detroit.

02:27:21.000 That's how we've gotten all the stations we've got.

02:27:23.000 There's people like you, Charles, getting on the phone and telling them to go to GCNLive.com or CuriousNews.us.

02:27:29.000 And they can get the satellite coordinates.

02:27:31.000 They can get us anytime they want.

02:27:33.000 We'll come right back to Don, Cliff, Kyle, others.

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02:31:37.000 Since retiring from football six years ago, Mark Stepnowski has changed countries, buying a house in Vancouver, British Columbia, where he now lives with his long-time girlfriend.

02:31:47.000 And it goes on, he's also changed lifestyles, trading the hectic demands of playing for the NFL for the relatively laid-back retirement that includes travel, reading, and taking in concerts and performing arts.

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02:32:10.000 And he has now added a new interest, speaking out publicly, it's really an old interest we learned now, 9-11 Truth Movements, whose adherents question the mainstream accounts.

02:32:18.000 And I read it here, he's also a fan of George Carlin, who said he questions the official story last week.

02:32:25.000 What do you think of George Carlin now saying he questions the official story?

02:32:29.000 Well, I think it's great.

02:32:30.000 I think that, you know, if you had to pick one guy who might do that, he would be the guy.

02:32:34.000 You know, he's kind of, has a reputation as being an anti-authority figure.

02:32:39.000 You know, a guy who kind of, you know, cuts through the chase and gets to the point.

02:32:43.000 Yeah, I was excited to hear that.

02:32:48.000 Boy, it'd be interesting if we saw some, the biggest country star out there go public on 9-11 Truth, or maybe I'm not going to even say it.

02:32:56.000 There are so many people who know what's going on who haven't yet spoken out or gone public, but I just pray that that happens, because as more people go public, it makes it safer for others to do it, and I really think a mass awakening, a renaissance of awakening, could totally expose false black terror and really inoculate the public against it to where the New World Order basically can't use that tool anymore. 0.95

02:33:23.000 I agree, and I think one of the things that is helping people come to that conclusion is the amount of information that's out there that is sourced from mainstream media.

02:33:33.000 Now, you're never going to see discussions like we are having today in mainstream media, but at the same time, a lot of people who are skeptical of the things we are talking about You know, they always tend to believe that these sources that we are reading on the internet or in books or magazines are subversive, unsubstantiated,

02:33:58.000 But that's why I think people should be open to reading things like the Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson, which is entirely sourced from mainstream accounts.

02:34:07.000 People can look at how this information is put together even when it is gleaned from major media.

02:34:14.000 So I think, you know, once people expose themselves to that kind of book, Or if they read something by David Ray Griffin, which debunks some of the theories being put out by mainstream media, then I think they'll be a little bit more willing to accept some of the things that we are talking about today.

02:34:32.000 Well, here's an example of debunking poplar mechanics.

02:34:35.000 We'll show some physicist and say that they just say, oh, it's not true with a guy saying expert under some 20-year-old kid.

02:34:43.000 Or they would say, oh, NORAD never intercepted any plane before 9-11 but Payne Stewart in 2000, the golfer.

02:34:51.000 And then we went and got the very same spokesman for NORAD who said that to popular mechanics in AP and Reuters during the Payne Stewart thing, saying they had 167 of them in just the months before that.

02:35:03.000 I mean, you know, my dad's a pilot and he's been off course before and, you know, they get on the radio and threaten to send an F-16s up when he's flying around a storm in a Cessna over Central Texas.

02:35:12.000 So, I mean, it's just, they build strongmen.

02:35:14.000 Can you comment on that?

02:35:16.000 Yes, I think, you know, once people become familiar with the protocol that exists, it's readily apparent that that protocol was broken on that day.

02:35:25.000 And that, you know, the events that happened that day, the way they transpired, that is not commonplace.

02:35:33.000 And it doesn't matter who's Who's in charge as far as giving the order to shoot down planes?

02:35:40.000 There is a protocol that's been established, and like you said, it's been followed repeatedly in the past.

02:35:48.000 So, to see such a divergence from the normal way that things are supposed to occur, as far as the response of jets and the response of NORAD, it just goes without saying that it's an anomaly.

02:36:02.000 You know, things were purposely altered that day.

02:36:07.000 And then we have all these first responders, medical workers, police, scores of them saying they heard the 22nd countdown when they blew up Building 7, and then BBC, 25 minutes before it falls on two different channels, says we've just gotten word Building 7, Salomon Brothers, has fallen from fire, total collapse, and there it is behind them, out the window, and they gave the exact official story that later came out hours later.

02:36:30.000 I mean, that's smoking gun!

02:36:32.000 Yeah, in addition to I'm sure a lot of your listeners are familiar with Larry Silverstein's comments about the building being pulled as if it was being demolished.

02:36:43.000 I was fortunate enough a couple months ago to see to go see William Rodriguez speak live in Vancouver and I was already familiar with his story but nonetheless it was really compelling to go see him in person and listen to it firsthand.

02:36:57.000 Yeah, like you said, the amount of eyewitnesses who were there that day, they're becoming more and more vocal.

02:37:06.000 I think that people are starting to realize that they're hearing the alternative belief now about what really happened that day.

02:37:15.000 The difference is they're not hearing it from corporate media, they're hearing it from eyewitnesses.

02:37:20.000 Well, speaking of that, up on PrisonPlanet.com, we have the George Washington Blogspot thing here.

02:37:25.000 9-11 family member, Patty Cazazza, government new exact date and exact targets.

02:37:31.000 9-11 family member, Jersey girl, Patty Cazazza, has just revealed that the whistleblower told her that before 9-11, the government knew the exact date, the type of attack, and the targets.

02:37:41.000 And she had to meet the government whistleblower at an undisclosed location off the side of the highway.

02:37:46.000 That's how paranoid they were.

02:37:47.000 But we've now confirmed that they ordered FBI agents that knew the exact details to back off and shut up, demoted them, and then Robert Wright, the head terror expert in Chicago, goes up before the National Press Club and says, here's a letter from Ashcroft.

02:38:01.000 I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know under national security.

02:38:05.000 All I can tell you is the Bush's vacation with the Bin Laden's. 1.00

02:38:08.000 Here is a Jersey girl, Patty Kazaza, talking about one of the inside whistleblowers giving her this information.

02:38:17.000 I met other whistleblowers on the side of the road in Maryland.

02:38:21.000 You know, to hear what they could tell us.

02:38:23.000 None of them revealed state secrets to us, by the way.

02:38:28.000 But they had information and basically the government knew, you know, other than the exact moment, they knew the date and the method of which the attacks were supposed to come.

02:38:41.000 And none of this made it to mainstream media.

02:38:44.000 None of it made it into the Commission.

02:38:47.000 And yet, again, all of your representatives on the day that the commission book came out were on their pulpits saying, what a fabulous job this commission has done, a real service to this nation.

02:39:00.000 And it was anything but a service.

02:39:02.000 It was a complete fabrication.

02:39:05.000 That's Patty Kozaza. 0.87

02:39:07.000 Going back to Mark Stepnoski, two-time Super Bowl winner, five-time Pro Bowler, Dallas Cowboys, and of course the Texas Oilers, now the Tennessee Titans.

02:39:17.000 I mean, that is another amazing testimony right there, and as these things mount, they can't ignore it, Mark.

02:39:23.000 I tell you, Alex, I'm so glad that you mentioned the Jersey Girls.

02:39:26.000 I was hoping we could discuss them briefly, because, you know, when people who believe the official story of 9-11 hear skeptics talk about it, they always accuse us of not being sensitive to the victims' families.

02:39:45.000 And that also goes for the war in Iraq or Afghanistan.

02:39:50.000 If you question the official story, if you exhibit any kind of skepticism, they automatically equate that as being disrespectful to the families of the 9-11 victims or of the soldiers who have died in war.

02:40:06.000 And I totally disagree with that, you know, because as you just have shown, The family members of these victims are some of the most outspoken critics of the official story, and they, as much as anyone, are trying to get to the bottom of what really happened on that day.

02:40:23.000 So I believe it's the total opposite, that by questioning these things, we are doing everything we can to help these families of victims and slain soldiers find out the whole reason behind why they had to die in the first place.

02:40:41.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:40:42.000 Over a year and a half ago now, I interviewed in a semi-film, Terror Storm, Bill Doyle, the head of 7,000 plus victims and family members, survivors of 9-11, lost his son, Joey, on that morning.

02:40:58.000 He came on the show and he said, I believe it's a total inside job.

02:41:00.000 The words were total inside job.

02:41:02.000 And he said that the majority of the victims' family groups and victims believe it's a total inside job.

02:41:08.000 But then the media always says all the family members hate us.

02:41:11.000 But there have been family members for five years who've gone out and encircled the White House saying Bush did it, Bush knew.

02:41:18.000 And I saw one little CNN report on that and show exactly how dare them speak for the victims and family members and those that lost loved ones when the majority believe it's an inside job, another hoax by the controlled corporate press.

02:41:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:41:32.000 And I think it goes hand in hand with the whole secrecy thing that we discussed earlier.

02:41:38.000 Whether it's the 9-11 Commission, whether it's, you know, Justice Department emails, whether it's extraordinary rendition by the CIA, it could be domestic spying by the NSA, whatever it is, this administration's policy has been secrecy and denial.

02:41:57.000 So again, that's a pattern that's been clearly established, you know, since the administration began in 2000.

02:42:06.000 So again, I don't understand, you know, people are willing to accept that the administration withheld information in all those other related areas, yet for some reason it's still tough for some people to apply that same thinking to Line 11 and to believe that the administration was keeping secrets about that also.

02:42:28.000 I want to shift gears and come at you from left field because I just thought of this.

02:42:32.000 About a year and a half ago, we talked to Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother.

02:42:39.000 Uh, we got his number and he said, I don't want to go public right now, but we have a lot of questions.

02:42:44.000 We think he could have been murdered on purpose to silence him.

02:42:47.000 Now, uh, they've put the families publicly said that the media has tried to spin it and kind of whitewash what they said and play it down.

02:42:55.000 We know that Pat was writing letters back talking to different anti-war groups saying that this is all staged.

02:43:01.000 There was even talk now that we're hearing about, he was talking about 9-11.

02:43:05.000 they would do stage photo ops and other special forces folks on who read some of those stage photo ops blowing up caves and things that nobody was even in putting out uniforms and you know staging events and that Pat was really mad then they admit now that he was shot three times at close range in the head a triple burst from closer than 15 yards not thousand yards or whatever that he'd They kept shooting him.

02:43:32.000 They kept begging to not be shot.

02:43:33.000 It kept staying stopped.

02:43:35.000 And they basically killed him.

02:43:37.000 Then the army doctors and investigators said it was murder. 0.92

02:43:40.000 They were told to shut up.

02:43:42.000 We know that they killed some of the people that spoke out about the private lynch thing being staged, and then she came out and said it was staged.

02:43:49.000 Do you have any comments on, and they admitted a lot of murders have happened in the military to cover things up, any comments on Pat Tillman?

02:43:56.000 Well, I just think that that whole situation is tragic.

02:44:01.000 It's just, it's extremely disappointing to see His idealism be subverted and to be basically him to be used as an agent of propaganda.

02:44:16.000 I didn't know Pat, but I paid attention to his story, you know, simply because he's a former NFL player and it got a lot of attention.

02:44:24.000 And I don't question his motives or his idealism one bit, and I don't fault him in any way for wanting to do what he thought was right.

02:44:34.000 Absolutely.

02:44:35.000 But at the same time, I just think it's tragic that when he did join, he and his brother decided to do what they did, he was championed by the media.

02:44:44.000 He was looked at as a hero, and rightfully so.

02:44:48.000 His story was used as a way to propagate the drums for war further.

02:44:54.000 And then when he wound up unfortunately and tragically getting killed, that was also used as a way to further the agenda for war. 0.54

02:45:06.000 Even though, as you just clearly explained, they didn't tell the truth about the circumstances surrounding his death.

02:45:13.000 So it was so disheartening to see a guy being used throughout the entire process, used as a guy to sell the war, and then after he was killed, that was used as a way to try and drum up patriots.

02:45:28.000 And they covered up the fact that he'd written letters and was firmly against the war, saying it was an illegal war and a fraud.

02:45:36.000 Yeah, and I guess, uh, like you said, you know, he was planning to, uh, make some connections with, uh, famous anti-war speakers, uh, you know, Noam Chomsky, Cindy Sheehan, those were some names that were thrown around.

02:45:49.000 And, um, again, you know, uh, the whole reason that we're supposed to be over there fighting is for our freedoms, right?

02:45:56.000 It's supposedly to protect our freedoms.

02:45:59.000 Yet here is a guy who obviously had his freedoms suppressed in the most drastic way possible, and that was by killing him.

02:46:07.000 Shifting gears back into 9-11, with Mark Stepnoski, Super Bowl champion, two-time, five-time Pro Bowler, joining us for 9-11 Truth here today.

02:46:16.000 And again, I want to commend you and thank you, and I just admire you more than ever.

02:46:19.000 I never would have thought watching you in the Super Bowl that I'd ever be talking to you, much less about such an incredible issue.

02:46:27.000 But here we are, brought together with the audience and people listening all over the world right now.

02:46:32.000 What would you like to see happen with 9-11 Truth?

02:46:34.000 Where would you like to see this go?

02:46:36.000 Because people call for another investigation.

02:46:38.000 I'm sure that sounds fine, but it'll just be the same whitewash they already tried to have.

02:46:42.000 Henry Kissinger is the supposed head of it.

02:46:46.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

02:46:48.000 How independent could the commission be?

02:46:52.000 How much power would it have?

02:46:53.000 How much time?

02:46:54.000 How much funding?

02:46:56.000 Uh, we all know how much Bush and Cheney fought the original 9-11 Commission.

02:47:00.000 They didn't want to appear.

02:47:01.000 Then they agreed only to appear together.

02:47:04.000 They wouldn't speak under oath.

02:47:06.000 Uh, they fought over who was going to head it.

02:47:08.000 Uh, they wouldn't, uh, allocate any money towards it.

02:47:13.000 It was just a complete stonewall all the way down the line. 1.00

02:47:16.000 I think that right there should make people skeptical about what the government is saying about 9-11.

02:47:21.000 Well then, what's the plan?

02:47:23.000 I mean, what's your idea, just off the top of your head or from your gut, Mark?

02:47:27.000 I mean, what do you think we should do?

02:47:28.000 Just continue to educate the court of public opinion?

02:47:31.000 Oh, I think that never hurts.

02:47:33.000 I think that, you know, a vital and functioning democracy depends on an informed voting populace.

02:47:40.000 You know, we don't have a chance of holding our leaders accountable if we don't educate the public on what is going on and what we can possibly try to do to prevent it.

02:47:51.000 If you're going to expect constitutional government to react in the way that it's supposed to, then impeachment proceedings would be the way to go.

02:48:01.000 I am not a Democrat.

02:48:03.000 However, I am excited that Dennis Kucinich is trying to get something done along those lines.

02:48:09.000 Where that will lead, who knows?

02:48:12.000 But at the same time, Everything during this administration has been geared towards increasing executive power.

02:48:20.000 At least articles of impeachment would be a step in the other direction.

02:48:24.000 I agree.

02:48:25.000 Impeachment is key.

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02:52:36.000 The in-game blueprint for global enslavement, who the global elite are, how they use terrorism, how they use control, what their master plan is.

02:52:43.000 It's available at InfoWars.com, the DVD, or watch it in super high quality right now at PrisonPlanet.tv, as well as TerrorStorm Special Edition, the final cut.

02:52:53.000 The history of government-sponsored terror, and I take the approach in the same way I woke up, in the same way that Mark woke up, is going through all the declassified admissions of government-sponsored terror.

02:53:03.000 So I hope folks will get in game at InfoWars.com.

02:53:06.000 Mark, in closing, I want to ask you about Ron Paul, but we've got about four minutes left.

02:53:11.000 Real fast, that's another point we didn't get into, all the admitted declassified examples of where criminals in our government have staged terror before.

02:53:20.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, as time goes on, as these documents reach the time where they're allowed to be released, I think it'll become more and more apparent to people, you know, how the intelligence agencies work behind the scenes.

02:53:36.000 I'm excited about Ron Paul just because, you know, He is the only Republican candidate who is against the war.

02:53:44.000 And I think that attitude coincides greatly with the general feeling of the American public.

02:53:50.000 And he's also, for drug decriminalization, he's a medical doctor, he knows that it's a scourge.

02:53:56.000 Absolutely, very much a libertarian belief.

02:53:59.000 Even though he has to run as a Republican, I mean, he is truly a libertarian.

02:54:04.000 And that belief goes hand-in-hand with libertarian ideology.

02:54:08.000 What would you call your political view if you had to put a label on it?

02:54:12.000 Oh boy, it's hard to say.

02:54:13.000 I mean, it's easy to look at a bunch of different guys and take bits and pieces from what they believe.

02:54:20.000 I am generally reluctant to just put a label on myself or anybody.

02:54:25.000 You want freedom?

02:54:26.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:54:28.000 You know, back in 1989 when the wall came down and the Soviet Union Broke up.

02:54:35.000 We were supposed to realize a peace dividend.

02:54:37.000 You know, we had been through a Cold War for generations.

02:54:40.000 You know, we had had, you know, Korea, Vietnam.

02:54:43.000 We were supposed to experience a peace dividend, and that hasn't happened.

02:54:48.000 As a matter of fact, the exact opposite has happened.

02:54:50.000 You know, we have Donald Rumsfeld talking about the long war.

02:54:54.000 Hundred-year wars, a new Britain. 0.90

02:54:56.000 Yeah, Richard Cheney saying that, you know, the war that will not end in our lifetimes.

02:55:02.000 So this is just, our foreign policy is going the exact opposite direction of what I think everybody expected it to go in back decades ago when the Soviet Union dissipated.

02:55:14.000 So it's just very disappointing for me to continue to see 450 billion dollars spent every year on the defense budget when so many other things in the United States are crying out for funding.

02:55:28.000 You're absolutely right, but they use it as the organizing force to scare us into submission.

02:55:34.000 They use that tribal instinct to manipulate us against these manufactured boogeymen.

02:55:39.000 Well, you've made a big splash for 9-11 Truth and Mark Statnosky two-time NFL Super Bowl champion, five-time pro bowler, with the team I grew up cheering, the Dallas Cowboys.

02:55:51.000 We salute you for your courage and I look forward to having you back on to talk about normal and drug decriminalization in the near future.

02:55:59.000 I salute you in the true spirit of America and the great tradition of liberty.

02:56:05.000 Thank you for your bold stance and your eloquent defense of liberty.

02:56:09.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:56:10.000 It was a pleasure talking with you today.

02:56:12.000 Mark, again, thank you, sir.

02:56:14.000 Ladies and gentlemen, back tonight on the network, 9 to midnight.

02:56:17.000 The show restarts right now at InfoWars.com and on many stations across the country.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all.

02:56:22.000 Now get out there and take on the New World Order.

02:56:28.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - December 25, 2007

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