Alex Jones Show - 20080110_Thu_Alex

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

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00:00:22.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:44.000 Welcome.

00:00:44.000 It is the 10th day of January 2007.

00:00:48.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:53.000 Bev Harris of blackboxvoting.org with an ultra-massive exclusive will be joining us coming up in the next segment.

00:01:02.000 You heard it here first.

00:01:04.000 I am proud of my producer and the work we do here, getting you the most important guests out there on the daily news and issues that affect our society.

00:01:13.000 Bev Harris, of course, privately told me the name.

00:01:15.000 They already had some documentation.

00:01:17.000 It's frankly far worse than even what you're about to hear.

00:01:20.000 She's still vetting even more hardcore dirt. 0.97

00:01:25.000 But she was still vetting it and wasn't going to put the report out until today.

00:01:31.000 She did that in the early morning hours, Pacific Time.

00:01:36.000 Not only has Ron Paul been cheated in Sutton, now we're learning he got zero where he really didn't in other townships.

00:01:44.000 More people are coming forward signing affidavits.

00:01:48.000 The Granny Warriors have already raised a bunch of money to start a recount.

00:01:51.000 I've got wealthy folks calling me, gracious people offering to pay for privatized total recounts.

00:01:59.000 I need to get the Paul campaign on, and we're working on that, to tell them there are people coming forward with money right now for the whole recount.

00:02:08.000 I mean, this is all happening, this is all developing right now.

00:02:16.000 We have the National News trying to spin the fact that Hillary was between 10 and 20 points, on average 15 points, behind Barack Obama in scientific polls with margins of error from 2 to 4 percent, magically beating him in all the electronic machines, losing in the non-electronic 19 percent of the state.

00:02:40.000 This is huge!

00:02:41.000 This is huge!

00:02:43.000 And the bigger issue now is not just the fraud, but what is Ron Paul going to do about it?

00:02:47.000 People are hopping mad.

00:02:49.000 They're upset.

00:02:50.000 We have clear evidence of fraud.

00:02:51.000 And as if all that other evidence wasn't enough, now this.

00:02:55.000 Drumroll, please.

00:02:57.000 This is up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:02:59.000 Steve Watson.

00:03:00.000 He wrote this yesterday, but held the story.

00:03:03.000 In fact, I learned that at about 5, it was about to go up.

00:03:06.000 And I said, no, don't put it out.

00:03:08.000 I know Bev's always 100%.

00:03:11.000 I mean, she literally, you know, vets things for HBO, but I said, we have got to hold on this story, and we did.

00:03:17.000 See, we don't come in here and tell you Houston's going to be nuked next week and it doesn't happen.

00:03:22.000 We don't come on the air and tell you that Henry Paulson's been shot when he hasn't.

00:03:28.000 We don't come on air and, I mean, maybe ten years ago I got caught up in stuff like this, but not now.

00:03:36.000 And a lot of times we hold back on stories because we want to absolutely make sure it's accurate for you.

00:03:42.000 Now, I'm very accurate in my vetting of stories and my analysis.

00:03:47.000 It doesn't sound very credible when I start yelling and screaming and hyperventilating, but frankly, I get mad, folks.

00:03:52.000 I don't enjoy this.

00:03:53.000 This is not fun.

00:03:54.000 This is not cutesy.

00:03:57.000 This is very upsetting, and I'm going to try today.

00:04:01.000 To not get mad, because I don't like how it makes me feel.

00:04:04.000 But that issue aside, I'm glad you're angry too, and we're going to need that anger to carry through on this.

00:04:10.000 But the bigger debate is, what is Ron Paul going to do?

00:04:13.000 Drum roll.

00:04:15.000 Drumroll, this is up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.net right now.

00:04:18.000 I need it up on TruthNews, InfoWars.

00:04:21.000 We need full-spectrum attack on this.

00:04:24.000 I need this to go viral now.

00:04:26.000 And that's up to you.

00:04:27.000 Attack, ladies and gentlemen, with this information, because the mainstream media is being forced to start to report on election fraud.

00:04:33.000 They don't like it.

00:04:34.000 We have to ram this out into a national issue, even if Ron Paul tries to take the high road.

00:04:39.000 It's not a high road.

00:04:40.000 He has a responsibility to speak out.

00:04:42.000 When we get back, the ultra-massive, exclusive, ladies and gentlemen, on the other side, with Bev Harris, who ferreted this out, thanks to investigators in the state of New Hampshire, that have locked horns with this guy before.

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00:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 Alright, I want to attempt to go to your calls today.

00:08:26.000 A lot of your calls let you respond to the clear election fraud red-handed by the system in New Hampshire, all the new developments.

00:08:34.000 Joining us is Bev Harris of blackboxvoting.org.

00:08:37.000 She helped produce the big HBO special, Hacking Democracy.

00:08:41.000 She's written books on the subject, posted them free on her website.

00:08:44.000 She's a national treasure.

00:08:45.000 Bev, I didn't talk to you during the break because I was busy doing some stuff.

00:08:48.000 So were you, but I want to let you know we have a wealthy benefactor who's actually donated to us before who's offering to help pay you because he knows you have the expertise.

00:08:57.000 So don't forget to let me give you his number so that you can send some PIs to New Hampshire or there's people calling saying they want to pay outright for the recount.

00:09:08.000 And I believe, Bev, that anybody in New Hampshire can go pay for a recount, or is it just the candidates?

00:09:15.000 Just the candidates, but along those lines, there's something kind of interesting that's cropped up.

00:09:19.000 You know, there's a very minor, minor candidate by the name of Albert Howard, whose wife just called me, and he is on the Republican ticket, and they're interested in doing a recount if they can raise the funds for it.

00:09:30.000 So, it doesn't necessarily even need to be, but what I told her to do is find out first To make sure that if they do a recount of any candidate that they have to recount all the candidates on the slate.

00:09:41.000 But we need the Ron Paul machine behind this, and it's one thing if we think there's fraud, he's doubling the polls and then he only gets half of it.

00:09:50.000 It's another thing when we start catching them red-handed.

00:09:52.000 Now, drumroll Bev, I had to bite my tongue not to cover this yesterday.

00:09:58.000 You got the documents, and now to give people the full story, headline, Infowars.net, PrisonPlanet.com, BlackBoxVoting.com, Diebold Voting Machine, contractor, executive, has criminal record, and they tried to keep it secret, and this fits into a pattern.

00:10:13.000 This is huge.

00:10:14.000 Bev, you've got the floor.

00:10:16.000 Yeah, and remember, it's .org because the BlackBoxVoting.com site is a harassment site for us. 1.00

00:10:21.000 Did I say .org?

00:10:23.000 Yeah, BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:10:24.000 I've got to get that site someday, but he won't give it up.

00:10:27.000 Anyway, yeah, and it's interesting because Well, I can't confirm it was for narcotics trafficking, which is what my source told me, but he was sentenced to a year in jail for, it says the offense is selling CND.

00:10:47.000 So it's either candy or controlled narcotic drugs.

00:10:52.000 I don't know, something like that.

00:10:54.000 But we have the actual photocopy of the arrest record.

00:10:58.000 And he pled guilty to it.

00:10:59.000 But that's tongue-in-cheek.

00:11:01.000 It's obviously not selling controlled candy.

00:11:03.000 It's controlled narcotic substance.

00:11:05.000 Whatever he was selling, he was selling something that was CND.

00:11:09.000 And so you can say candy or you can say nose candy.

00:11:13.000 I don't know which one it was.

00:11:14.000 But at any rate... But you don't go to jail for candy?

00:11:18.000 No, you don't go to a year in jail for candy.

00:11:22.000 And he was also fined and so forth.

00:11:25.000 So actually, it's entertaining if it wasn't for status.

00:11:29.000 Their response was to pull the staff list off the website so no one can check who works there.

00:11:35.000 But we got a copy of that, and that's linked up on PrisonPlanet.com and BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:11:42.000 BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:11:44.000 Beb, the same great You know, three-minute analysis you gave me during that break yesterday before you came on.

00:11:52.000 Give us the background, give us the intel, the source.

00:11:55.000 She got involved with him from a totally different perspective, but you said what she was telling you matched up with your own investigations.

00:12:01.000 You'd already had run-ins with this individual.

00:12:04.000 We've now got his name.

00:12:05.000 Go ahead and break it down.

00:12:07.000 Yeah, well, basically, there's the two guys that have, like, grown up together, and they started this company, and this company has the programming contract for All of the voting machines in New England, which, New Hampshire is of course in New England, so they've got all of New Hampshire.

00:12:23.000 And basically you have John Silvestro, who is in this video we show, he's kind of a pontificating type, you know, and then you've got this Ken Hajar.

00:12:34.000 Ken Hajar is a very nasty character, frankly.

00:12:39.000 He threatens, he's threatened us, he wrote, he threatened Brad's blog, Brad Friedman has a very popular blog about, it's on the progressive side, and apparently he threatened a woman that was in opposition of his, on a political thing having to do with building a power plant, and it was sufficient that she actually filed for a restraining order.

00:13:04.000 And so that's one of the documents that I'm wanting to add to his little file on our site.

00:13:10.000 And then I found more information from a radio interview he had granted, and I have that quoted in the latest article on our site, in which he made quotes like, well, I don't always follow every little law.

00:13:25.000 And he admitted that he sometimes totes memory cards, which are the little ballot boxes, around in the trunk of his car, and he doesn't see anything wrong with swapping a memory card in the middle of an election if he's servicing the machine.

00:13:39.000 Well, that's what these guys always do, and police know that from criminology, is they always flaunt it all, they love to throw it in your face, they love to brag, they love to habitualize it and try to get you trained to accept it.

00:13:53.000 Yeah, that's actually what we see.

00:13:55.000 It's like, they say stuff and you think, can that be true?

00:13:58.000 Okay, it must be true because he's saying it's true with such confidence.

00:14:02.000 But you step back a step and go, look, the core issue here, I don't care if it's a Girl Scout that's got memory cards in the trunk of her car, I can't see what she's doing.

00:14:14.000 And I certainly don't want someone who is convicted of selling whatever kind of candy and sentenced to a year in jail for it.

00:14:23.000 The issue is, this system has got to be put out into public view.

00:14:27.000 If we can't see what they're doing... But Ben, you're being too conservative there, because people are going to take that seriously.

00:14:32.000 This is how conservative you are.

00:14:34.000 You've even told me more off-air.

00:14:36.000 I mean, it says in there, controlled... I mean, that is the code.

00:14:39.000 I typed it in.

00:14:39.000 That's the police code, and that's the code and convictions for narcotics.

00:14:44.000 Right.

00:14:46.000 So for dealing in this, and he's sentenced to a year in jail, which is a pretty stiff penalty, so that's showing it's a goodly amount.

00:14:53.000 And then of course, where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:14:56.000 And what this lady told you checked out, so to say, you know, or for selling illegal candy. 1.00

00:15:02.000 I mean, clearly this was either cocaine, heroin, it was something that is in a narcotics classification.

00:15:07.000 And now, we're not getting all the records.

00:15:09.000 Part of them are blacked out, aren't they?

00:15:11.000 Yeah, apparently so.

00:15:13.000 And then there's always a problem because this particular one was 1990.

00:15:16.000 I have a mistake in my archives.

00:15:18.000 I said it was 87.

00:15:19.000 Apparently that's when they arrested him, but he finally pleaded guilty in 1990.

00:15:24.000 And they told me that that's back in their archives and so there's so forth.

00:15:26.000 So what I have done is I have requested every document from every Secretary of State in New England on everything they have from this company during the entire procurement process and ever since then.

00:15:39.000 And they will either Know that this guy has a criminal record, or they should know.

00:15:44.000 So I'm going to find out what they knew.

00:15:46.000 Now I want to give people some background here.

00:15:49.000 This isn't only popping up once.

00:15:51.000 How many times have people working at Diebold or administrating through sub-companies over multi-states, like these guys, five states, the majority of five states, How many times have we had narcotics traffickers, drug dealers, spooks, top hackers, embezzlers, caught in and around this company?

00:16:12.000 I mean, every time it pops up, it seems like that's all who works at these companies.

00:16:19.000 You start to wonder if it isn't required in the resume or something because it really is amazing.

00:16:25.000 I mean, I've literally lost count.

00:16:27.000 In fact, I haven't had time to do this, but at some point I actually want to start a section on my website called the criminal documents of all the elections people in the industry.

00:16:38.000 It is staggering.

00:16:39.000 In fact, I recently wrote a report pulling out the criminal records of actual election officials who are the government officials who conduct elections.

00:16:47.000 I had to consolidate it down to eight pages and just use recent.

00:16:50.000 There were so many examples.

00:16:53.000 I even have election officials who've been convicted of drug dealing and convicted of embezzlement and so forth.

00:17:00.000 It's kind of shocking and You know, you look at this and just go, there is no solution other than to count the things in public where we can see it and keep the chain of custody in public.

00:17:11.000 There's no other solution.

00:17:13.000 To try to have to guess whether someone is honest or not is not acceptable.

00:17:17.000 And I want to tell the listeners something.

00:17:19.000 Just in my own investigations here in Austin, nine times out of ten, if you investigate any government agency, any group, I don't just mean the police.

00:17:29.000 In fact, I found they're not as criminal as most of the other government groups.

00:17:33.000 You just burrow in anywhere and you run directly into crimes.

00:17:36.000 I mean, we send people to prison many times.

00:17:39.000 I mean, I personally have gone out and investigated people and sent them to prison.

00:17:44.000 I'm telling you, nine times out of ten, in fact, you can probably just say, you're a criminal, I know I have the evidence, and they'll start begging, like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not, and then you know you've got them.

00:17:53.000 Just like cops use that trick of going, you know, we got the evidence, then they spill their guts.

00:17:56.000 I mean, it's a legion of criminals feeding on us, And, you know, you've been a corporate fraud investigator before you got into this, Beb.

00:18:04.000 And my dad's a mid-level executive for a pretty big company, and he told me years ago that half of the employees corporations have found in studies steal.

00:18:13.000 I mean, is this just a nation of criminals, not just in government, just criminals everywhere?

00:18:18.000 Well, you know, I think the reason that we're so, um, facing this difficulty in government is that they tend not to prosecute each other a lot of times.

00:18:25.000 And so, I mean, quite literally, they'll go, you know, they give each other a break and they don't... That's it!

00:18:31.000 Government is... A lot of times they let each other resign!

00:18:34.000 It's terrible!

00:18:35.000 They'll say, well, you know what?

00:18:36.000 Um, you just resign and we won't do anything about it.

00:18:39.000 And then they say things like, and I saw this in Ohio, where she finds these terrible problems with Secretary of State, and she goes, but we're going to be forward-looking.

00:18:47.000 And I'm like, forward-looking just means you're not going to consecrate anything.

00:18:51.000 Bev, you just said it, though.

00:18:52.000 Government is a safe haven for criminals.

00:18:55.000 That's why there's so many in there, and then they recruit more criminals, and that's why you always get tyranny, because criminals first get into low-level areas, then they protect themselves, then they move up, and within a generation, they're in power, and then they wage war against the good people.

00:19:09.000 That's called tyranny, Bev. 0.99

00:19:11.000 Of course.

00:19:11.000 That's exactly how it works.

00:19:12.000 Precisely.

00:19:13.000 I mean, you nailed it.

00:19:17.000 Stay there in the next segment.

00:19:19.000 I want to get into detail on these articles at PrisonPlanet.com and BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:19:24.000 A great story by Steve Watson.

00:19:25.000 Your documents, your excellent analysis.

00:19:27.000 I want to talk more about where we should go from here.

00:19:29.000 For those that just joined us, it isn't just townships counting zero for Ron Paul.

00:19:33.000 It isn't just the polls being turned on their heads, always an indicator of fraud.

00:19:38.000 It is a individual, and you've gotten in some of your stories here, Bev, that some laws may be broken by having this guy in there.

00:19:45.000 I want to talk about where you think we go from here.

00:19:47.000 This is huge, folks!

00:19:49.000 Evidence is just mushrooming of total fraud in New Hampshire.

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00:24:23.000 We've got donors calling us wanting to fund it.

00:24:26.000 So, I'm not going to try to haunt you all this.

00:24:28.000 I'm just going to turn that info over to you, Bev, later today, if you would like.

00:24:37.000 Do you want to carry the ball, Bev?

00:24:39.000 I can't on a recount because, again, it gets into campaign stuff and we're not allowed to, but I can certainly, I can do things like consulting on procedural issues and stuff.

00:24:49.000 Maybe you can help direct them or something?

00:24:52.000 Or put people together?

00:24:54.000 Yeah, I can't get directly involved in someone's recount other than to discuss it in this case.

00:24:59.000 Sure, well here's the deal.

00:25:00.000 I mean, you know, I'm helping with the Ron Paul Air Corps.

00:25:02.000 I'm helping with a lot of other things behind the scenes.

00:25:05.000 I just don't want to put myself front and center out in front of the campaign because that's already, the media's already made such a big issue out of that.

00:25:11.000 It's just the bottom line is if Ron Paul stands by, I'm not going to stand by.

00:25:15.000 And so... Well, and we have to remember again in Ohio, It was not John Kerry that asked for a recount, it was Michael Badnarek from the Libertarian Party and David Cobb from the Green Party.

00:25:25.000 And the same difference, you can still have people from any campaign out there watchdogging it and that's how they ended up putting the women in jail because they didn't catch them rigging the election, they caught them rigging the recount.

00:25:38.000 But I am concerned about some strategic issues procedurally in New Hampshire, and so that's something I can definitely discuss at more length.

00:25:48.000 It's a little bit boring and mundane for the show like this, but it's exciting.

00:25:51.000 Well, we're going to have Linda Honeycutt coming up in about 15 minutes, right at the tail end of the interview with you, Beth.

00:25:57.000 Words cannot really describe the magnitude of what we're witnessing.

00:26:01.000 I mean, we're not just seeing one or two of the key indicators of fraud in New Hampshire.

00:26:04.000 We're seeing an entire constellation, the entire complement of what you would see.

00:26:09.000 You've got a crook, you know, convicted felon in the middle of all of this for the sale of controlled narcotics.

00:26:19.000 You've got him running around with the memory cards. 0.53

00:26:22.000 You've got the machine showing Totally skewed numbers away from what the polls show, but the hand counts matching what the polls show with Obama and poll.

00:26:32.000 I mean all of this happening, more about this guy and more about this company.

00:26:36.000 I want listeners to realize what we're seeing here.

00:26:41.000 People don't seem to quite grasp what I'm saying here.

00:26:44.000 You know, inside access is always bad, and everybody made a big deal of the fact that in California they were sending these voting machines home with poll workers for sleepovers.

00:26:52.000 Well, of course, the poll workers, because hacking these machines takes only the smallest amount of computer skill, a refrigerator repairman can do it.

00:27:01.000 The information is on the internet for how to do it.

00:27:03.000 So, you don't need to have anything, you know, usually special in order to figure it out.

00:27:07.000 It's like changing your email.

00:27:08.000 Calling and hacking isn't even right.

00:27:10.000 Well, for the memory card, you have to know, you have to be a technician.

00:27:15.000 Let's put it that way.

00:27:17.000 So, the idea is inside access is a problem, but now let's compare that situation where you send it home with a random poll worker here and there.

00:27:26.000 They can then get at that machine, and they can then hack that election on that machine.

00:27:31.000 LHS Associates, though, in New Hampshire, has access to every memory card in New England.

00:27:38.000 Every memory card in New Hampshire.

00:27:40.000 So, the issue is the level of inside access given to just a tiny handful of guys is unprecedented.

00:27:50.000 I don't know if it's unprecedented.

00:27:51.000 Heaven knows.

00:27:51.000 We'll probably find it somewhere else in the U.S.

00:27:53.000 in just the larger scale.

00:27:55.000 The level of inside access is so huge.

00:27:59.000 They literally controlled the memory cards for the entire state of New Hampshire and coming up February 5th for Massachusetts and Connecticut and Maine and Vermont.

00:28:09.000 Now let's be clear here.

00:28:11.000 We have someone convicted according to the documents you've gotten and according to now what's been published at PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.net, BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:28:21.000 It's all there folks.

00:28:23.000 On top of Towns saying zero, on top of all of this, on top of the polls not matching, if you were Ron Paul, you know, separate from your tax-free, you know, group, your 501c3... If I was a candidate, Mr. Jones... Yes, if you were a candidate... ...with a similar discrepancy... What would Bev Harris do right now?

00:28:41.000 I would first, and I have already done this through public records requests, but it'll be a little slow, I would immediately start nosing around about what exactly is happening with those paper ballots.

00:28:53.000 Because you see, here's the issue, and no one wants to really deal with this, but yes, it would put a lot of attention on everything to request a recount, but there's also a huge incentive for someone to make sure that that recount matches.

00:29:05.000 What we don't want is someone to come back and say, see, told you so, everything's fine, if they actually Substituted in the ballots to make it fine.

00:29:14.000 So the very next step is to find out, they use one company, just like they use one company to program voting machines, they use just one company to print all the ballots in New Hampshire.

00:29:24.000 I have not yet been able to get the name of that company, but I will.

00:29:29.000 But if I was a candidate, first thing I'd do is tell me the company that prints the ballots, and let me tell you why.

00:29:34.000 Here in Washington State, the company prints 25% extra ballots every time.

00:29:40.000 Explain all this on the other side, then let's talk about this other town, Greenville, with the zero votes now saying they've got votes.

00:29:48.000 If we confirm this, it's just going sky high.

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00:33:00.000 Welcome back.

00:33:08.000 We're now about two days out from the New Hampshire primary.

00:33:12.000 Exponentially, the evidence of fraud, corruption, laws being broken is flooding out.

00:33:19.000 One company controls the majority of votes in a five-state area.

00:33:24.000 One of their top executives is a convicted narcotics trafficker.

00:33:30.000 Distributing controlled narcotics.

00:33:32.000 We're getting even more documents right now on restraining orders.

00:33:36.000 People reportedly being threatened who tried to block him and weird power plant deals.

00:33:40.000 That's all coming out.

00:33:41.000 This massive breaking story is up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:33:47.000 InfoWars.net and BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:33:50.000 She's got her own reports, we've got our own on it.

00:33:52.000 We're going to be expanding all of these as new info comes out.

00:33:55.000 Bev, continue with the fact that we have these companies printing extra ballots, and then I want to get into the Greenville situation.

00:34:02.000 There's so many facets to this, Bev.

00:34:06.000 Yeah, the ballot thing is important.

00:34:07.000 It's subtle at first, but think this through.

00:34:10.000 If they do a hand recount throughout New Hampshire, And if they were to show through that hand recount that there was fraud, everything topples.

00:34:18.000 What that means is there's a huge incentive to make sure that hand count doesn't show anything.

00:34:24.000 Okay, then we go to the habits and procedures of ballot printing plants.

00:34:29.000 Now, we know from the one near me, because I got leaked financial documents from their employees, That showed that they were printing 25% more ballots than were needed and not delivering them.

00:34:40.000 But that's important.

00:34:42.000 That means they don't show up on the books anywhere.

00:34:44.000 They're just at this private company that we don't have a right to see.

00:34:48.000 But they're hanging around there, blank, in case something needs to be substituted.

00:34:54.000 Then in Ohio, there's a great researcher by the name of Richard Hayes Phillips, who was able to document 10,000 ballots that were delivered I believe it was Claremont County during the recount, or shortly before, but they were off the books ballots.

00:35:10.000 In other words, they weren't official ballots, they supposedly didn't exist, but he was able to prove that they took delivery on 10,000 ballots that didn't show up.

00:35:19.000 Understand, during a recount, they're shipping in ballots.

00:35:22.000 Folks, that's red-handed.

00:35:25.000 Well, I don't know the timeline.

00:35:27.000 It could have been they got them before the recount, but they were, you know, that is basically a plan B situation.

00:35:32.000 If we have to recount, we need something to substitute, right?

00:35:37.000 So, that's why it's very important now to find out who the ballot printer is for New Hampshire and what their chain of custody procedures specifically are, because what I do know Is in New Hampshire, what I understand to be the case, is that all these 240 townships ship their ballots to one place.

00:35:56.000 Okay, well, anytime you see a narrowing of the pipeline, where everything is going to one place, there's fewer hands on it and so forth, you've got to really, really look at that chain of custody.

00:36:07.000 Because you have to understand, this is not just some normal, you know, the dog catcher wants a recount.

00:36:12.000 This is a situation where the whole world would be looking at this.

00:36:16.000 And if there is a problem, Really amazingly, it would be a shake-up that wouldn't be... it would be unprecedented.

00:36:26.000 We're on the edge of something that could really get our electoral process back or voting process back into our hands.

00:36:34.000 We have gone from people not believing this was happening to the majority of Americans in major polls knowing there's fraud, people are going to jail, criminals are being caught, drug dealers seem to be the favorite employee of these crime syndicates.

00:36:48.000 Deb Harris recapping the fact that one of the chief officers Of the company.

00:36:54.000 Recap the top story for people that just joined us.

00:36:57.000 Recap that top news.

00:36:58.000 I don't want to get into what's happened in Greenville.

00:37:02.000 Looks like another place where they're now reporting, okay, he didn't really get zero.

00:37:06.000 And so it's now mounting.

00:37:08.000 You can say zero one place is an accident.

00:37:10.000 That's not, I mean, that's ridiculous, but still you can say it.

00:37:14.000 But it's now being duplicated.

00:37:16.000 This is just, folks, this is massive.

00:37:18.000 We've got to ram this out into the mainstream media.

00:37:20.000 But recap, Bev.

00:37:22.000 Yeah, well essentially when you have a situation where one company has inside access to everything, and that one company also has hired someone with a criminal background, it's unacceptable is putting it mildly.

00:37:38.000 And then going on to Greenville, yeah, what's so important about that, these are tiny little towns and so forth, but if there was zero, and then if it turns out to be 25 votes for Ron Paul, and I know I have a screenshot of it being zero by the way, Well, what that means is not only was there an unacceptable discrepancy in the town of Sutton, but if it also shows up in the town of Greenville with the same candidate and it's the same discrepancy, what are the odds?

00:38:10.000 You know, that's where we really get into a problem.

00:38:14.000 Bev, again, if you were a candidate, you say there's strategy involved here, And you've just begun to analyze the New Hampshire laws on this, but groups that are calling for recounts, candidates that are saying they may do it, what would be the most logical step to ensure that they weren't able to further abscond?

00:38:35.000 Well, first you have to understand that it might not be possible to ensure that, and that there's a great... But I think the first thing to do is gather information.

00:38:44.000 We've got to know everything.

00:38:45.000 And you have to look at this from the other side's point of view.

00:38:48.000 If something happened here, and they don't want it to come out, they're not going to make it easy and say, well, la la la, let's get down the road and look at these things, and we'll all go to jail, no problem.

00:39:01.000 So you have to look at it from the standpoint of, Okay, if I was a really bad guy, where are my opportunities?

00:39:08.000 And I always look for where there's a narrow spot in the pipe.

00:39:11.000 In other words, there's all these eyes on the process over here, but then look over there when there's only two people.

00:39:16.000 You know, that's the kind of thing you want to look for with the chain of custody.

00:39:20.000 What type of areas would that be?

00:39:24.000 Well, I would look towards certainly whoever prints the ballot, where those ballots are, how many extras they are, who they're friends with, what their names are, do they have criminal backgrounds?

00:39:33.000 The guy who prints the ballots here in Washington was a cocaine dealer, that's one of the ones! 0.96

00:39:37.000 You know, that would be one of the things to look at.

00:39:40.000 Another thing to look at would be which specific officials, public officials, are the ones charged with custody of those ballots, and how many of them.

00:39:50.000 And they often give you a lot of, you know, there's this and this and this and this, and we have all these different procedures, but you almost have to follow it yourself to see if those procedures are followed.

00:39:58.000 That was done in Riverside, California, and it was great.

00:40:02.000 This wonderful activist down there by the name of Tom Corbett got in a pickup truck and followed the ballots around during a live election.

00:40:09.000 Oh yeah, it's going to take just good old-fashioned getting out in the streets, spying on people.

00:40:16.000 Folks, the government's so corrupt, That if a judge has wronged you, or somebody's done something bad to you, and you know they're screwing you, you know they're corrupt, you know they're lying, nine times out of ten, don't hurt them, don't threaten them.

00:40:29.000 You're allowed to be a private investigator.

00:40:31.000 Start following them around.

00:40:32.000 You're going to see them cheating on their wife. 0.99

00:40:34.000 You're going to see them drug dealing.

00:40:36.000 You're going to see stuff you don't believe.

00:40:38.000 And I'm telling you... And there's one thing I can tell people that will help if they're starting to look into this on their own.

00:40:43.000 On blackboxvoting.org, we have something called the Citizen's Toolkit.

00:40:46.000 It's one of the red tabs right on the left.

00:40:48.000 And there's a section of that called Following the Money Trail.

00:40:51.000 And it has all kinds of tips for what people can do from their own armchair in their living room to find out all kinds of information.

00:40:57.000 And that is appropriate if you're saying we need to find out about ballot chain of custody.

00:41:02.000 It's completely appropriate.

00:41:03.000 This is a public function.

00:41:08.000 I've done it before and caught people being bribed on tape, caught people stealing, sent them to prison. 0.98

00:41:13.000 I mean, these crooks are arrogant. 0.89

00:41:15.000 Which, by the way, brings up a point. 0.98

00:41:17.000 It doesn't do any good to see it and tell your neighbor about it.

00:41:20.000 You have to be able to get a document, which is why we didn't... That's why we didn't really break this story, isn't it, Alex, yesterday?

00:41:27.000 It's like, I need that document in my hand.

00:41:29.000 I have credible information.

00:41:30.000 It's corroborated by something else, but I'm not going to really... Nobody will really believe it until I show them a photocopy.

00:41:36.000 Now, I mean, let's talk about what we know about him and threats and reports of restraining orders.

00:41:41.000 The same lady that told you he'd been involved in trafficking and narcotics, that's now confirmed.

00:41:45.000 She also told you she had to get a restraining order. 1.00

00:41:47.000 You're now confirming that.

00:41:49.000 But you've had little run-ins with him, haven't you?

00:41:51.000 Oh, well, you know, he's one of those guys that can't resist.

00:41:54.000 He's a little out of control, in my opinion, because if you have an employee with a sensitive background, it's not the greatest idea.

00:41:59.000 He seems to be unable to resist, you know, going online and telling people that they're full of it in more profane terms than that.

00:42:07.000 And he's done that on several websites and been tracked right back to who he is.

00:42:11.000 And so, you know, he's just kind of a blustery Well, I want these guys to know we're committed.

00:42:22.000 We're not saying bring it on.

00:42:24.000 We don't want bad things to happen to us, but we're committed.

00:42:26.000 You understand what that means?

00:42:27.000 It means we're not playing games.

00:42:29.000 We're going to head up against you.

00:42:30.000 Your threats don't work, okay?

00:42:32.000 Understand that.

00:42:33.000 We understand you're dangerous.

00:42:34.000 We understand you're serious.

00:42:36.000 We understand who you are.

00:42:37.000 Understand who we are.

00:42:39.000 Understand that.

00:42:40.000 You can sit there and play your games, governmental, and the people that work for you, and the little corporations that have grown up around you, with all your black ops and the rest of it, we're done. 0.92

00:42:49.000 We're committed.

00:42:50.000 We're ready for the fight.

00:42:51.000 We're head up, okay?

00:42:53.000 We're coming at you, and we don't care.

00:42:55.000 Understand, punks.

00:42:56.000 We understand the danger, and we don't care.

00:42:58.000 We're sick of you, and if you want to play chicken, let's go, because I ain't turning.

00:43:03.000 I'm not getting over in the other lane.

00:43:05.000 I'm going all the way.

00:43:06.000 Do you understand?

00:43:08.000 Do you under- I'm sorry.

00:43:09.000 I'm sorry, Bev.

00:43:10.000 It just freaks me out to see these people running wild, to see them always getting away with everything, and I'm tired of them cheating.

00:43:16.000 I'm tired of them destroying my country.

00:43:18.000 Now, in closing, Bev Harris, I said I wasn't going to get mad today.

00:43:22.000 I apologize, Bev, and to you and the whole audience.

00:43:25.000 Well, it's exciting!

00:43:27.000 No, Alex, everybody loves you.

00:43:29.000 You know that.

00:43:30.000 Yeah, but I really, physically, it's starting to drain me getting mad.

00:43:32.000 I'm trying to, I'm getting to the point where I can't control my temper anymore, Bev, and I don't like it, because, but at the same time, I just am so mad.

00:43:39.000 And I need to be able to think straight, but I mean, do you ever get really mad, or is it just fun to expose them?

00:43:46.000 Oh, well, my reaction when I, you know, a lot of times I'll see something new, and it happens every couple weeks, and I, it usually kind of really makes me quiet for like a whole day, where it's, you know, you can talk about it, and it's all like a big spy movie and a novel, but sometimes when you see real stuff, documents, you know, you just go, oh my goodness, this is real!

00:44:11.000 You know, and that is when you just really get, to me, I just get a little bit more introspective at that point.

00:44:17.000 And I'm not scared.

00:44:19.000 I mean, I've raised my kids and stuff.

00:44:20.000 It's just... It's chilling.

00:44:22.000 It's just chilling.

00:44:23.000 And it's not a good thing to look at.

00:44:25.000 And I know it's hard for a lot of Americans to even let themselves begin to look.

00:44:30.000 Bev, I totally agree.

00:44:31.000 When I'm at home, late at night working, I'm very introspective, very quiet.

00:44:34.000 It's when I'm forced to talk about it, and forced to get into it, that's when I start getting angry.

00:44:39.000 Because exactly, it's like bracing, it's chilling, it's not even fear, it's more of just, God, there's all this evil, and if they'll steal elections and do all this, what else are they doing?

00:44:49.000 Oh, I know.

00:44:50.000 There was a consortium of media people that wanted to get together and talk about licing all of the different issues together, and I thought, I don't know.

00:44:57.000 I keep my spirits up by just staying in my little corner here because it's bad enough over here.

00:45:02.000 But I think what we have to do is, look, it's always depressing to not take action.

00:45:09.000 We have to do constructive action that's real.

00:45:12.000 And by the way, I wanted to mention to your listeners, Once we get into really going head-to-head and looking at what's going on and getting the documents and getting videotaped and so forth, don't necessarily think... I would say what you do with that is you propagate that out to five or six different sources.

00:45:26.000 Never think, well, I'm going to turn it over to the Attorney General and he will prosecute.

00:45:30.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:45:31.000 Or, I'm going to take it to my local newspaper.

00:45:34.000 Do that, yeah.

00:45:35.000 Turn it over to the AG, take it to the newspaper, but also get it to at least three or four other kinds of sources.

00:45:41.000 And that will give it legs. 0.99

00:45:43.000 Well it's like here, we get stuff piling up and a year later find some incredible thing we were sent.

00:45:48.000 So get it out to five or six activists.

00:45:51.000 Get it out to five or six mainstream media.

00:45:53.000 Get it out to two or three police agencies.

00:45:55.000 And I know that's a lot of work, but it's like siege.

00:45:57.000 You've got to plant a lot of them to make sure a few of them sprout.

00:46:00.000 Bev, in closing, we've got the Granny Warriors on the line. 0.99

00:46:02.000 I want to thank you for your incredible research.

00:46:05.000 We're going to call you back in an hour or two if any new developments come out.

00:46:07.000 We want to have you pop back in.

00:46:09.000 I've been very honored to have you in your very busy schedule as all this happens here with us during Election 2008.

00:46:15.000 And I thank you for your incredible research and all those giving you tips.

00:46:18.000 The Greenville situation also there.

00:46:22.000 Tell us what's coming in on that.

00:46:24.000 I gotta get that confirmed, that's the next order of business, because either he went from zero to 25 or he didn't.

00:46:30.000 And also, remembering Greenville, they also had Romney at zero, and the Nashua newspaper had him as the winner.

00:46:37.000 So, what the heck?

00:46:38.000 You know, I mean... And one last thing in closing.

00:46:42.000 When they say it's an error, understand that they have to fill out a reconciliation form where they write down the number of voters who showed up, and the number of votes, and then they break down the number of votes, and they add them up and make sure they there's no it's really very difficult for me to understand how one place, let alone two, could fill out a reconciliation form and not notice that, like, 10 or 15 percent of the votes are wrong.

00:47:05.000 It just doesn't make sense.

00:47:07.000 We also have Ron Paul getting, on average, 15% as the polls showed he would, and that'd be third place, folks, in all the places, you know, that's where it averages out to, where the 19% where it was handwritten, and then you've got him getting 8% or even lower in the places where it was electronic.

00:47:27.000 I mean, that right there stinks.

00:47:30.000 And then you add to that Obama way ahead of Hillary and then being 5 percentage points behind.

00:47:34.000 That's a 20% swing.

00:47:36.000 That stinks.

00:47:36.000 And then you have this convicted crook in there at the high levels of the company admitting he's involved with the memory cards.

00:47:45.000 Bev, I mean, on the face of it, are laws being violated here?

00:47:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:50.000 Yeah, laws are being violated.

00:47:52.000 I mean, it's against the law for one thing, to report 0 if you've got 25.

00:47:57.000 It's not just that you can say it's error, it's also against the law.

00:48:03.000 And, you know, in the state of Connecticut, by the way, one of the reasons we know that this guy had memory cards in his trunk and they were swapping them out in the middle of elections is because the state of Connecticut called him on it and said, hey, stop, it's against the law, you're not going to do that here.

00:48:16.000 Of course, they still go back and program the cards for Connecticut, so... Now, if I'm robbing a bank, are the cops going to pull up with a SWAT team and say, stop, go home, Alex?

00:48:24.000 That's against the law?

00:48:26.000 I know, that's... Well, good point.

00:48:28.000 Yeah.

00:48:29.000 Yeah, they do this over and over with elections.

00:48:32.000 They give these guys a free pass, and they say, well, you know what?

00:48:35.000 Stop it.

00:48:36.000 And they don't even fire them.

00:48:38.000 They don't even say, we weren't going to use your company anymore because you broke the law.

00:48:42.000 They just say, oh, don't do that anymore, please.

00:48:45.000 Well, that's why not making illegal aliens have driver's licenses or insurance, and the cops will tell you they've been on record.

00:48:50.000 Police chiefs are ordered not to arrest them, because the judges just let them go.

00:48:55.000 Once you start selectively enforcing laws, it's over, folks.

00:48:58.000 The country's gone.

00:49:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:01.000 When we see them going after somebody who is, for example, an activist or a citizen researcher, and then not going after somebody who's done these horrific things in government and saying, well, you know what?

00:49:13.000 what, don't do it next time.

00:49:14.000 That leaves, you're well on your way to a real breakdown of the whole system.

00:49:20.000 Absolutely, and it's not the people destroying the precious system that police and others think they're there to protect.

00:49:27.000 They're there to protect the Constitution.

00:49:29.000 It's your government and the crooks running it that are destroying the system.

00:49:32.000 Look at the dollar.

00:49:33.000 I mean, gold went to $900 today.

00:49:36.000 I mean, this is unbelievable.

00:49:38.000 Bev Harris, we'll check back in with you later.

00:49:41.000 Your research, the tips.

00:49:43.000 Are we going to talk about the lady who had to leave the state because of this individual?

00:49:47.000 I think we should probably not shine a huge spotlight on her because, you know, she was patriotic in getting me the information.

00:49:47.000 Probably not.

00:49:54.000 I will say that.

00:49:55.000 You know, and I know who she is, but we don't always need to have our sources.

00:49:58.000 Sure, I agree.

00:49:59.000 I didn't know if she wanted to be public.

00:50:01.000 Where do you see this going as more and more fraud comes out?

00:50:04.000 There's fraud.

00:50:04.000 People say, well, why should we vote?

00:50:05.000 We're proving it.

00:50:06.000 We're engaging it.

00:50:07.000 We're fleshing it out.

00:50:08.000 We're lancing the boil.

00:50:10.000 Thank you.

00:50:11.000 That's exactly right.

00:50:12.000 If you don't do it, then you might as well just say, okay, I'm going to hand you my country.

00:50:17.000 And what kind of a patriot is going to say that?

00:50:20.000 What are they going to do, Bev, as all this begins to unravel, as the people begin to wake up?

00:50:25.000 Because it's definitely happening.

00:50:27.000 We're going to see smear campaigns and disinformation campaigns stepped up.

00:50:30.000 That'll be the first thing, where you'll see... You see how they do that, you know?

00:50:34.000 Anybody who gets the goods gets smeared.

00:50:37.000 Yeah, but people know the media lies now, and so when I get smeared, it just makes people, oh, you must be good.

00:50:44.000 Bunch of crunks.

00:50:45.000 Hey, Bev, God bless you.

00:50:47.000 BlackBoxVoting.org.

00:50:47.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:50:48.000 Thank you.

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00:54:00.000 I hear the train coming.

00:54:07.000 It's rolling around a bit.

00:54:10.000 And I ain't seen the sunshine.

00:54:12.000 I don't know when.

00:54:14.000 I'm stuck in full through prison.

00:54:17.000 And time keeps dragging on.

00:54:20.000 Thank you.

00:54:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:21.000 Thank you.

00:54:23.000 But the train keeps a-rollin' Now the train that goes to San Antonio, the Union Pacific line is about 300 yards from where I sit.

00:54:37.000 But I shot a man in Reno.

00:54:41.000 Just the washing guy All right, huge, massive breaking news. 0.78

00:54:47.000 Total election fraud, wall-to-wall, every indicator, every sign, intriplicate, total fraud, felons running it.

00:54:55.000 The town's reporting zero, and it's been confirmed, by the way, in Greenville.

00:55:00.000 We really got a lot of votes, just the polls not being right, flipping, all sorts of chicanery going on, red-handed. 1.00

00:55:09.000 Barack Obama and Ron Paul cheated handily in New Hampshire.

00:55:13.000 What do you expect?

00:55:14.000 And I wonder if the folks at this company, with the felon there, I wonder if they hear the train a-coming, rolling around the bend.

00:55:23.000 Shifting gears to Linda Honeycutt, who just rolled into Austin, by the way. 0.93

00:55:29.000 She called in.

00:55:30.000 I heard her listening to the radio in the background.

00:55:32.000 She's one of the granny warriors. 1.00

00:55:33.000 We've had them on before years ago on other issues.

00:55:36.000 They've been up in New Hampshire and Iowa and everywhere else.

00:55:39.000 I'm not sure why we're graced with them here in Austin with them rolling in, but they've gotten in contact with one of the candidates there in New Hampshire who's saying he wants a recall, or he wants a recount.

00:55:51.000 I say throw the whole thing out now.

00:55:53.000 There's ample evidence of that.

00:55:54.000 And giving us a report on that, I appreciate you holding, Linda.

00:55:58.000 Honeycutt, welcome to the Airwaves.

00:56:00.000 Oh, thanks for having me on, Alex.

00:56:01.000 So tell us about this gentleman and tell us exactly what's going on.

00:56:05.000 I don't want to give his name yet, because Well, it might cause a problem for him.

00:56:09.000 Well, no, I think he was a candidate.

00:56:11.000 I mean, he's public.

00:56:12.000 I think Bev gave it earlier.

00:56:13.000 Or as he said, he doesn't own it out there?

00:56:15.000 Yeah, I didn't hear that part.

00:56:17.000 Okay, so what's going on?

00:56:19.000 Well, we just got in here, and last night I got so aggravated at all this mess, I said, the heck with it.

00:56:24.000 I'm going to put a chip in it.

00:56:25.000 I'm going to see how much money we can raise.

00:56:27.000 We raise enough money, we're going to fund him.

00:56:30.000 And if we haven't raised enough money, we've got enough, well I've got some credit cards, I'll personally fund them and we need to recount, period.

00:56:38.000 Well you already, I looked this morning and it was like six grand, how much have you raised?

00:56:42.000 Really?

00:56:43.000 Oh man, I didn't realize it was that much.

00:56:45.000 I guess you've been on the road and haven't looked at the internet.

00:56:48.000 Right.

00:56:49.000 Well, now you know there's a special strategia that needs to be done right here in New Hampshire to catch them.

00:56:55.000 Right.

00:56:55.000 Because you've got the Fox also running the hen house after a massacre.

00:56:59.000 He's got blood dripping out of his mouth, feathers sticking out, and he's going to put on his police uniform now and direct us about, you know.

00:57:06.000 Well, we're going to try to put some crimps in all their plans.

00:57:11.000 I was surprised at the response I got from the people in the Ron Paul revolution, really, you know.

00:57:18.000 My lord, they're so tired of not having something done and they're tired of the campaign committee backing down to the GOP and, you know, sucking up.

00:57:28.000 It's just, it's amazing.

00:57:29.000 Well, I don't want to get a bunch of, you know, the campaign's got to analyze this, they've got to have a few days to look at it, but by Friday, which is tomorrow, we're not getting some answers.

00:57:38.000 By next week, there might be a problem.

00:57:41.000 Uh, I mean, we're catching wall-to-wall fraud here, and I know they want to look forward, but look forward to the next state, and the next cocaine dealer, or heroin dealer.

00:57:48.000 I mean, you know, look forward to the next black op, the next CIA deputy director, or, you know, or the next, you know, van load of guys in short haircuts with machine guns, running around in the night with voting machines. 0.70

00:57:59.000 I mean, this is the stuff that goes on everywhere, and I'm tired of the government and its filthy drug dealer army doing this!

00:58:06.000 And so, yeah, the Ron Paul campaign can't be like Kerry or Gore.

00:58:10.000 They've got to fight this and fight it now.

00:58:12.000 That's right.

00:58:12.000 They've got to stand up and say, hey, this is wrong.

00:58:16.000 They're so afraid of infuriating the GOP against them that they'll be so far against Ron.

00:58:23.000 Well, hell, they are anyway.

00:58:24.000 Well, the GOP is already calling them terrorists all over the news. 0.89

00:58:28.000 That's right. 0.99

00:58:28.000 So why suck up to them? 0.99

00:58:30.000 Tell them where to go. 0.97

00:58:32.000 I agree.

00:58:33.000 Stay there.

00:58:33.000 I mean, everybody's going ape.

00:58:35.000 Every website says go after him.

00:58:36.000 Ron Paul, it's the right thing to do.

00:58:39.000 Do it!

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00:58:49.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

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00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:18.000 Alright, weeks ago we lined up a lot of special guests for today.

00:59:22.000 We lined up Larry Pratt last week to talk about If Bush was going to sign the massive Veterans Disarmament Bill, huge federal expansion, total nightmare.

00:59:33.000 We've had to cancel Pratt.

00:59:34.000 We're going to reschedule him to tomorrow.

00:59:37.000 I haven't had him on in about a year.

00:59:38.000 His analysis has been spot on.

00:59:40.000 That's who we have back, is people that actually make predictions that come true, people who have track records.

00:59:46.000 He's made the government very mad.

00:59:48.000 He's Bob Chapman.

00:59:48.000 We've been interviewing him off and on for 10 years.

00:59:51.000 But he's going to be with us for this hour, and we're going to have open phones on Ron Paul, on the economy, it all ties together.

00:59:58.000 Gold hit 900 smackers today, and then they called it, and then it went way down to 891.

01:00:07.000 Of course, but you watch the trend, it's going straight up.

01:00:11.000 This is, I mean, it's Valhalla now, and what this means for the economy, because even though we've got election fraud in New Hampshire, Let me just recap the analysis there.

01:00:20.000 It's at PrisonPlanet.com.

01:00:22.000 We're also coming up in about 20 minutes after Bob Chapman comments on that and the economy with Bob Chapman.

01:00:27.000 I'm going to take your calls on two issues.

01:00:28.000 The economy and Ron Paul and election fraud.

01:00:31.000 That's it.

01:00:32.000 That's that.

01:00:32.000 That is what I'm going to hang up on you.

01:00:34.000 We don't normally screen calls.

01:00:35.000 We're not screening your calls.

01:00:37.000 But because this is so serious, we're covering election fraud, And we're covering the economy.

01:00:42.000 You can also talk about Iran and the new Gulf of Tonkin documents and how they're trying to rig that. 0.75

01:00:46.000 I mean, it all ties together.

01:00:48.000 Bob's very well-versed and just on many, many issues worked, of course, in military intelligence and then in a lot of other places and was at the highest levels of, you know, a lot of different stocks and bonds and gold.

01:01:00.000 And he can tell you what's happening with the P.E.

01:01:02.000 ratios and what's happening with the derivatives and what's happening with states being told their investments are gone, they weren't AAA, they were actually double junk. 0.99

01:01:10.000 Just absolute crap.

01:01:13.000 I mean, this is Armageddon financially we're talking about, so I'm not canceling Bob because his info is on par or even trumps the Ron Paul situation. 0.99

01:01:25.000 It is unbelievable.

01:01:25.000 Here's a recap.

01:01:27.000 This happens everywhere with Diebold and everywhere with their subsidiaries.

01:01:31.000 The number two guy at the company is a convicted narcotics trafficker.

01:01:35.000 We already knew that.

01:01:36.000 He had his record sealed.

01:01:38.000 We were able to get it from sources.

01:01:40.000 Bev Harris has already had run-ins with him.

01:01:42.000 He's got restraining orders against him for threatening people.

01:01:44.000 These are very serious people we're going up against.

01:01:48.000 We broke it here yesterday without the name.

01:01:50.000 Now we're telling you it all, name names, documents, all up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

01:01:56.000 We're going head up against them.

01:01:58.000 We know that in Sutton and Greenville, they showed he got zero votes.

01:02:02.000 They showed it a bunch of other places.

01:02:04.000 Now it turns out people are going in and saying, hey, I voted.

01:02:07.000 They're going, okay, there was some votes for him, but just don't worry about it.

01:02:10.000 We accidentally took all the votes and then zeroed it out and said zero on the report.

01:02:14.000 That is a complete scam.

01:02:16.000 Also, you have Obama on the Democratic ticket, Paul on the Republican ticket.

01:02:22.000 Both showing in the polls that Obama was going to win by 15 to 20 points, depending on the poll.

01:02:27.000 The spread's about 16 if you average the different polls.

01:02:30.000 Paul was showing between 14 and 16.

01:02:31.000 In the areas where it was hand-counted, where they didn't zero him out, he did get 15 on average.

01:02:38.000 That's the average, 15.1.

01:02:40.000 Polls are accurate, generally.

01:02:41.000 He only got, though, 8 statewide by the end of it.

01:02:44.000 Total cheating going on on those machines.

01:02:48.000 Okay, so that's going on.

01:02:50.000 You've also just got a bunch of other evidence coming in.

01:02:54.000 It is wall-to-wall insanity.

01:02:57.000 We've got this other guy caught before running around illegally with new cards in the middle of live elections.

01:03:02.000 They run five states as a sub-directorate dealer of Diebold.

01:03:08.000 And it's just, again, all over the country, California, you name it, hundreds of times, they're always, I'm going to ask Bob Chapman why, they're always convicted, generally cocaine dealers, we don't know yet, it says narcotics trafficking.

01:03:21.000 He's convicted of that, we don't know, most of it's blacked out, but why are they always either CIA, NSA, or drug dealers, or convicted high-level computer crimes experts, and I mean, A lot of times the whole company is.

01:03:38.000 It's nothing but spooks, drug dealers, hardcore people.

01:03:43.000 It's just here it is.

01:03:44.000 This is who runs our country now.

01:03:46.000 Bob Chapman on the other side.

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01:07:08.000 Diebold Voting Machine Contractor Executive at Criminal Background.

01:07:12.000 Company responsible for machines throughout New Hampshire.

01:07:14.000 Directed by convicted drug dealer.

01:07:18.000 The sale of CND, controlled narcotics.

01:07:23.000 Sale of controlled narcotic drugs.

01:07:25.000 And sentenced to 12 months in Rockingham County Correctional Facility.

01:07:30.000 Fine $2,000.

01:07:32.000 And it just goes on.

01:07:34.000 We have a copy of the criminal record, and it's always popping up.

01:07:38.000 On the economic front, the U.N.

01:07:40.000 says prepare for flu pandemic and economic hit.

01:07:43.000 Yeah, prepare for them to release it.

01:07:44.000 Recession or depression.

01:07:46.000 See, first we weren't in a recession.

01:07:47.000 Now they're saying, is it a recession or the beginning of a depression?

01:07:50.000 And when the mainstream pundits start doing that, they're trying to pull the plug.

01:07:53.000 They've been trying to boost it, but certain sectors want to have an implosion.

01:07:56.000 Some of them are saying they want to have a controlled one now instead of an even bigger one.

01:08:00.000 We'll hear from Bob Chapman when he thinks about that.

01:08:02.000 Also, gold got right up to $900.

01:08:05.000 It dropped back down to $891, if you can call that dropping back down.

01:08:11.000 That's just some of what's coming up.

01:08:12.000 Continual coverage of ongoing massive election fraud in New Hampshire.

01:08:18.000 Don't forget, it's not just towns that voted zero for Paul.

01:08:21.000 Not just one, but multiple now coming out.

01:08:23.000 And then saying, OK, he did have some votes.

01:08:25.000 Well, yeah, even if he got 8% and there's 500 votes or 300 votes in a town, he's going to have some.

01:08:30.000 But this is baloney.

01:08:31.000 There's a whole bunch of towns.

01:08:32.000 Also, scores of towns will say 500, 600, 300, that'll say other.

01:08:39.000 Just huge percentages.

01:08:41.000 Well, that's Obama, that's, of course, Ron Paul.

01:08:45.000 Going to Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster, we'll tell you all about his newsletter and his analysis.

01:08:51.000 Bob, out of the gate, spend a minute, tell folks who you are, your history.

01:08:55.000 Well, I've been publishing the International Forecaster for the last 18 years, and prior to that for 28 years.

01:09:02.000 I was a stockbroker specializing in gold and silver shares, probably the largest in the world.

01:09:08.000 During that 28-year period, I owned my own brokerage firm.

01:09:12.000 I spent several years in the United States government, and I retired actually 20 years ago, and I decided that it wasn't the thing for me.

01:09:24.000 So here I am at 73, in the trenches, and I'm loving every bit of it.

01:09:30.000 Bob, all of your training, Army Intelligence right through to owning a huge brokerage firm and writing.

01:09:37.000 I remember back in the 80's seeing your newsletter around the house and stuff.

01:09:42.000 It really was the biggest and now you've got one of the biggest again.

01:09:47.000 All this criminality, was it always there?

01:09:50.000 Or is it getting worse?

01:09:51.000 Or are we now just exposing it and seeing it for what it is?

01:09:55.000 Because everywhere we look with this Ron Paul thing, it's drug dealers, it's black ops, it's former CIA people.

01:10:01.000 They're running it all.

01:10:02.000 How criminal has the guy... I mean, were they always giving AAA rating to junk? 0.97

01:10:07.000 Or is this something new? 0.92

01:10:09.000 Well, first of all, the crime has always been with us.

01:10:12.000 Look at the movie, The Gangs of New York, and it's just endemic in every society, through all history, and it's going to be that way.

01:10:21.000 Although, it never had the hold on American politics and business as it does today.

01:10:28.000 The arrogance of the insiders, the people who were involved in this corruption and criminality, they just don't care.

01:10:36.000 And the agencies which are supposed to protect us from Our enemies, the NSA, the CIA, and even the FBI today have had some terrible things happen within their ranks.

01:10:52.000 And I think it began during the 1960s to become as deplorable as it is today.

01:11:00.000 You had the evolutionary process of Cuba and going against Fidel Castro, and that grew into a rant contract And during that period, you had this tremendous CIA and government involvement and narcotics trafficking.

01:11:18.000 You had people who were subscribers of mine who said to me, you know, Bob, you and I, we never did those things when we did that kind of work.

01:11:26.000 We never heard of people doing things like that.

01:11:29.000 I mean, you know, we didn't have torture and we didn't have corruption.

01:11:34.000 I mean, everybody tried to do their job as best they could.

01:11:38.000 And we're not interested in those things.

01:11:40.000 They were interested in what you might call the American Way.

01:11:45.000 Yeah, I think the American Way went down the toilet a long time ago.

01:11:49.000 Getting into Ron Paul, I talked to you during the break.

01:11:52.000 You are aware of those issues and the things that have happened, Bob.

01:11:57.000 Like you said, they just don't care.

01:11:58.000 How obvious does this have to get?

01:12:02.000 Well, I think the American people have been hardened to that and a number of other things.

01:12:07.000 They don't know which way to turn.

01:12:10.000 Today, the people who are under 50 have an educational problem to a great extent.

01:12:17.000 They just didn't get the education that older people have gotten. 0.53

01:12:21.000 That's just the way the system is.

01:12:23.000 And you have a situation where we've seen elections stolen in America before and people shrug their shoulders.

01:12:32.000 And I think your take on it is correct.

01:12:34.000 I believe that Ron Paul should go after them, and so should Obama.

01:12:39.000 It looks like they were both cheated out of about 22,000 votes each.

01:12:44.000 And that's a ballpark figure off some of the estimates I've seen.

01:12:48.000 And that's a substantial amount of votes.

01:12:52.000 And it would have made Obama the winner over Hillary Clinton. 0.96

01:12:57.000 And so I think that they both should pursue the matter.

01:13:02.000 To the utmost, perhaps on a criminal basis.

01:13:05.000 Now the argument's going to be, oh, that's in the past.

01:13:07.000 No, it's going to keep happening in state after state if they don't make a big stink now.

01:13:12.000 That's right.

01:13:13.000 I mean, these people don't give up.

01:13:15.000 I mean, we saw the whole group get down to Mexico and steal the election down there. 0.97

01:13:20.000 And that was run out of the U.S.

01:13:22.000 publicly.

01:13:23.000 I mean, the White House and their PR people were down there doing it publicly.

01:13:28.000 That's right.

01:13:29.000 And of course, most people don't know what they're doing because They don't know the insidious nature of what's going on.

01:13:35.000 Now, the Mexicans rioted and burned down large sections of cities and had riots and literally took over. 1.00

01:13:43.000 And in Africa right now, in Kenya, they're going crazy. 1.00

01:13:47.000 I guess Americans think it's cute to have elections stolen.

01:13:51.000 I guess so.

01:13:53.000 You know, if they don't get out their behinds, they're going to end up victims of the Patriot Act.

01:13:59.000 And, you know, anybody who argues goes off to a camp.

01:14:03.000 People like you and I, we don't get that opportunity.

01:14:05.000 We just disappear.

01:14:09.000 Yeah, it's do or die now in the positions we're in, and we've really committed.

01:14:13.000 But I do see a lot of people finally waking up.

01:14:16.000 You know, Americans thought it couldn't happen here, and I think that denial is starting to finally dissipate.

01:14:21.000 I mean, polls show 80-plus percent know there's election fraud.

01:14:24.000 They just say, what do you do about it?

01:14:26.000 Well, you start complaining.

01:14:28.000 You start going and voting, and saying, hey, my vote, it said zero in my precinct, but I voted.

01:14:33.000 And you start suing people, and you start getting aggressive, and you start fighting back and you start demanding Ron Paul, you know, go public about this.

01:14:42.000 I mean, he at least needs to give a press conference and say, we don't want to see this in the next state.

01:14:46.000 Well, I agree.

01:14:49.000 And I think another way, too, in the future of handling that is I've been telling my subscribers that I think in the primaries that they should wipe out every one of the incumbents And because they just won't do what the constituents want them to do.

01:15:09.000 They're totally unresponsive.

01:15:11.000 There's really only one party.

01:15:13.000 And they just ignore what the public wants.

01:15:17.000 So the way to change that is to kick them all out of office.

01:15:21.000 And hopefully, elect Ron Paul, who really, really understands the problems.

01:15:28.000 I heard a video interview with thestreet.com this morning that he did.

01:15:33.000 And when it comes to what I do, which is economics and finance, I gotta tell you, he knows as much, if not more, than I do.

01:15:42.000 And this is my life's work, so you're working with someone who can really help you.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, people like Ron Paul don't come along very often.

01:15:53.000 He really is a very quiet genius, and reads like two books a day, and really studies economics, military history, geography.

01:15:59.000 I mean, you stack him up against these buffoons like Bush, who literally can't even string a sentence together, it's a joke.

01:16:08.000 Well, there's certainly no comparison, and of course, Bush, like many others before him, have been figureheads for the people behind the scenes. 0.84

01:16:19.000 But we've got to put a stop to it.

01:16:22.000 And radio programs like this are going a long way to doing that.

01:16:27.000 I think it's very unfortunate.

01:16:29.000 It's probably 25 or 30 or something like that.

01:16:32.000 People like you and I, Alex, who go out on a limb, and I wish there were a lot more of them.

01:16:38.000 Well, there are more people that are starting to.

01:16:41.000 It's theinternationalforecaster.com.

01:16:43.000 Big fat link up on infowars.com.

01:16:46.000 Bob, when we get back, I want to get into what's happening with gold, the economy, right now.

01:16:51.000 More on Ron Paul than at the bottom of the hour.

01:16:53.000 I promise we're going to your phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.

01:16:56.000 But Bob, what do you see the elite doing right now with the economy?

01:17:04.000 What are the men behind the curtain doing when they start admitting we're going into a serious recession?

01:17:09.000 Like you said, we've already been in one six months to a year and a half.

01:17:14.000 What do you think is coming down the pike?

01:17:17.000 Well, they know that they can't let deflation get a hold on anything.

01:17:23.000 And they saw the big mistake that they made in 29 and 30 by cutting back on money and credit and raising interest rates.

01:17:31.000 So they know that doesn't work, because the only reason they got out of the depression of the 30s is they had another war.

01:17:37.000 And this time, they're going to inflate until they can't anymore.

01:17:41.000 And how they're doing that is a number of ways.

01:17:45.000 And they also have to keep the stock market up, because it's the only viable investment medium left for them to keep everybody from panicking.

01:17:56.000 Like, if the Dow Jones Industrial Average were up from $14,000 to $7,000, which is very probable it could, if they were to allow that, then the public would panic.

01:18:09.000 They're concerned enough as it is now, with the value of their homes coming down, And the probability that they'll come down much more.

01:18:20.000 And, you know, there's something I want to enter into that thought.

01:18:24.000 And that is, you know, we've all heard about the resets and the subprime and the ALFA loans.

01:18:29.000 And they'll stretch out for the next year and a half, maybe as long as two years.

01:18:34.000 But there is a giant coming behind that.

01:18:38.000 And they'll start hitting.

01:18:41.000 In 09 to 012.

01:18:43.000 Let's talk about that wipeout when it's really going to hit.

01:18:46.000 The things we see now are just the tip of the iceberg.

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01:23:14.000 Sooner or later gotta cut you down.

01:23:16.000 I gotta apologize to the Granny Warriors. 1.00

01:23:19.000 I got to talking to Bob Chapman.

01:23:21.000 Even forgot they were on the line earlier to talk about how they're going for a recount.

01:23:24.000 Try to set them up a little bit the next hour if they can do it to finish up with them.

01:23:27.000 John, thanks.

01:23:31.000 Hey, this song goes out to that company in New Hampshire, involved in the chicanery. 0.99

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01:23:42.000 Going back to Bob Chapman.

01:23:46.000 In layman's terms, what does it mean when gold hits $900,000 as it went up to today?

01:23:51.000 What does it mean when states like Florida and others start saying, hey, we want our investments back.

01:23:55.000 You defrauded us.

01:23:57.000 Our contract says only AAA. 1.00

01:23:59.000 You sold us a bunch of garbage. 0.99

01:24:01.000 I mean, just a fraud. 0.97

01:24:03.000 And then now the credit cards are coming due, all this.

01:24:08.000 And you're right.

01:24:08.000 I've looked at the numbers.

01:24:09.000 Just a layman can look at them and see that you think it's bad this year, next year, the next.

01:24:13.000 It only gets worse and worse with this bubble.

01:24:15.000 What do you see happening?

01:24:17.000 Well, as I said at the break, we get a year and a half to two on the subprime ultra loans to the downside.

01:24:25.000 And then we've got the pick and pays coming after that, which will last all the way to 2012.

01:24:32.000 And they are far worse than the subprime ultra problem.

01:24:37.000 Explain what a subprime is.

01:24:39.000 Explain what a sub, Bob, explain what a subprime is versus a pick and pay. 0.95

01:24:43.000 I mean, talk to us like we're morons, because, I mean, you know, I'm, it's important.

01:24:47.000 What they are is option loans, where instead of making a $3,100 a month payment, let's say, on an arm, then you'd pay only $1,900 on a pick and pay, but the difference is tacked on to the back of the loan. 0.83

01:25:04.000 Uh, so that you have a bigger loan balance... Balloon!

01:25:08.000 ...five years hence than you started with.

01:25:11.000 And if the price of homes go up, it's okay.

01:25:14.000 If the price of homes go down, it's disastrous.

01:25:17.000 And that's what we're looking into.

01:25:19.000 And they, at the Federal Reserve in Washington, who started this whole thing, the fraud goes all the way from the Fed to the lenders to the mortgage originators to the appraisers to the agents, and 85% of the people who receive subprime and also loans falsify their applications. and 85% of the people who receive subprime and also So they all committed fraud.

01:25:39.000 Now, we know that in 93, they went from fractional reserve banking, 10 to 1 leveraging, and banks creating new banks and letting them leverage out.

01:25:49.000 To just now setting up a few, quote, watchdogs that the industry controlled, saying that they would then certify corporate securities and paper.

01:25:58.000 Can you put that in layman's terms?

01:25:59.000 Because we entered a new phase in the last 15 years, didn't we, Bob?

01:26:04.000 We did.

01:26:04.000 And the real difference was the abolition of the Glass-Steagall Act, which put a Chinese wall between brokerage and banks.

01:26:15.000 And this is one of the great problems that happened during the early 1930s.

01:26:20.000 That, along with trust and what the Federal Reserve did, they turned the financial system in America upside down.

01:26:26.000 So what they did is, around 98, they changed the legislation and did away with Glass-Steagall.

01:26:33.000 The brokerage houses and the banks got together again.

01:26:36.000 And now, as an extension of that, we have what you just talked about in real estate, which was to revive the economy after the stock market collapsed in 2000.

01:26:47.000 And so the next step was to try to extricate themselves from this morass they created in order to keep the economy going.

01:26:56.000 And what they did was, as you said, they took and called triple D paper, triple A paper.

01:27:03.000 These are bonds with mortgages inside of them.

01:27:07.000 And so what they did is they sold them to other professionals throughout the world.

01:27:12.000 And that's why the problem is so bad.

01:27:14.000 They thought dispersing the losses would be a good idea and no one would get hurt too bad, you know, a billion here, a billion there.

01:27:21.000 It didn't work out that way.

01:27:23.000 Everybody is mad at them.

01:27:25.000 None of the banks will lend to each other.

01:27:28.000 There's a loss of trust.

01:27:29.000 It's still frozen.

01:27:29.000 There's a loss of trust.

01:27:31.000 Is it spin by the Financial Times of London, who I found to be the most honest?

01:27:36.000 They still lie and deceive.

01:27:37.000 But from my experience, I found it to be really where the elite communicate with each other, that there are higher level central banks and families.

01:27:44.000 that started all this, and two years ago, Bilderberg did report that they wanted to pop the real estate bubble so they could have a consolidation, but now the Financial Times says that the elite, and they openly say it, that the big banks are doing this, have overdone it and are now endangering the entire system.

01:28:00.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts has said that as well.

01:28:03.000 Do you think that's propaganda, or have they actually lost control?

01:28:06.000 They've lost control.

01:28:08.000 And the bigger banks and the brokerage houses, many of them are on the edge of bankruptcy.

01:28:15.000 And if you noticed Merrill Lynch and Citigroup are going back to the trough for more money.

01:28:24.000 Stay there.

01:28:26.000 I want to completely reduce it down to the basics.

01:28:29.000 Your predictions, your crystal ball, which has been unfortunately very accurate.

01:28:33.000 What you see in the next 6 months, 12 months, 24 months, 36 months.

01:28:37.000 He is a real live expert.

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01:33:04.000 We brought it here yesterday, but said the big news was coming today.

01:33:07.000 It is.

01:33:07.000 It looks like more towns are confirming the news and are now reporting that, oh, they did say zero, but Ron Paul really got some votes.

01:33:15.000 This is amazing.

01:33:17.000 You know there's fraud, concerted fraud, when Ron Paul only gets half of the votes that the poll showed he was going to get.

01:33:27.000 Same thing with Barack Obama.

01:33:29.000 He was like 20 points, 15 points, depending on the poll against Hillary, and then he loses by five.

01:33:33.000 That's a 20-point spread difference from the poll.

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01:36:19.000 Bob, in a nutshell, How do you see the breaks?

01:36:23.000 I know you don't like to make predictions, but you have made them, they have come true.

01:36:26.000 What do you see happening next 12, next 24?

01:36:28.000 How high is gold going to go?

01:36:30.000 Give us your breakdown.

01:36:32.000 Well, over the next two years, gold should go to $3,000 based upon real inflation since 1980 up until now.

01:36:40.000 The official figure is around $22.86, but the official figures are baloney in plain English.

01:36:51.000 And so, that's where gold's going.

01:36:53.000 Silver will be over $100 an ounce.

01:36:55.000 But, I think that'll take a couple of years, unless extraordinary things happen.

01:37:00.000 And so, with that said, if we wait two years, we're going to have all kinds of inflation in between, and that's going to have to be tacked on to gold and silver.

01:37:08.000 So, with gold, we'll use it as a benchmark.

01:37:11.000 You could be looking at $5,000 or $6,000 an ounce.

01:37:14.000 We just don't know yet.

01:37:16.000 Now, as far as the markets are concerned, between now and the election, I see a trading in the Dow Jones Industrial Average somewhere between 10,000 and 14,000.

01:37:26.000 It will be all over the place.

01:37:29.000 The United States government, through the Plunge Protection Team, which is a working group in financial markets, and the Federal Reserve will be in, as they have been, manipulating markets every day.

01:37:40.000 By the way, Bernanke just gave a speech, as you know, 10 minutes ago and admitted they're going to dump unlimited amounts of money.

01:37:46.000 If it takes $20 billion a day on the markets, They're going to do that, but for listeners that don't know, that's robbing you when they do that, robbing Peter to pay Paul for the illusion of the stock market, which is really at what, about $6,000 per dollar value, correct?

01:38:00.000 Yeah, and so what is the solution to that?

01:38:03.000 The solution is you have to, you must have, If you have money, you must have gold and silver-related assets of some kind.

01:38:13.000 It's the only place where you're going to be able to offset the losses that you're going to take on the price of your home, the value of your business, etc.

01:38:23.000 And so this is extremely important.

01:38:26.000 Bob, what happens... I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:38:30.000 I was going to say, we've gotten everybody out of the stock market, with the exception of a few oil stocks and gold and silver stocks.

01:38:37.000 And I tell people to have some time with subscribers to get out of the market.

01:38:45.000 If you don't have the ability to go into gold and silver related assets because you're tied into some sort of a pension plan, at least get into a money market fund.

01:38:53.000 is the best of the worst.

01:38:55.000 Now, if the stock market is to drop, if that final illusion implodes, then you will have the unraveling of all the pension funds that predominantly have already been stuck dry.

01:39:05.000 Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere.

01:39:06.000 And then if you put it all end to end, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, listed as one of the top ten economists alive, Do you agree with his analysis that what he calls fiscal Armageddon, total unraveling, literally to a barter level?

01:39:20.000 I mean, he says it'll make the Great Depression literally look like heaven.

01:39:24.000 Absolutely.

01:39:26.000 Absolutely, he's right, and you've got to prepare for that, and so your key is gold and silver, and then you go off and do the other things, the filters, the water, the generators, the food, the weapons.

01:39:38.000 You've got to have them all.

01:39:39.000 Because you're going to need them unless we can change the course of Washington by electing Ron Paul and getting rid of Congress.

01:39:46.000 We have an outside chance there, if we can do that.

01:39:50.000 Is that why the elite, Bob, in your opinion, are accelerating the police state setup?

01:39:53.000 As if that's going to somehow suppress... I mean, these Lexus-driving yuppies, I'm not bashing you if you drive a Lexus, but you know, these people leveraged out, acting like they're rich, the nouveau riche, million-dollar house, hundred-thousand-dollar car, liposuction, the fancy golf course membership, but they're not really wealthy.

01:40:11.000 And frankly, most of these yuppies that act like they are, we all know aren't, and the numbers show that.

01:40:15.000 Absolutely.

01:40:16.000 And that's why Ron Paul and changing Congress is so important.

01:40:18.000 It's our last shot.

01:40:18.000 They knew how to take care of themselves, and there was still a huge uptick in crime.

01:40:23.000 If we have a depression, it's going to be lawless Armageddon from what I've seen societally from a sociological perspective.

01:40:29.000 Absolutely.

01:40:31.000 And that's why Ron Paul and changing Congress is so important.

01:40:36.000 It's our last shot.

01:40:37.000 If it's not there, it's in the streets.

01:40:39.000 And these people at the Federal Reserve and in Washington and in Wall Street, they want to extrapolate.

01:40:46.000 They want to extend out what's going on here as long as possible so it will not be discovered what they've done.

01:40:53.000 And that's what they're doing right now.

01:40:54.000 That's why the interest rates are going down.

01:40:57.000 And my figures show M3, which is no longer published, at 17.5%.

01:41:02.000 I'm only one of three people who publish it that I know of.

01:41:07.000 I see inflation at 11.6%.

01:41:11.000 A lot of people say that's low.

01:41:12.000 They say it's at really 15 per year.

01:41:14.000 You're saying 11?

01:41:14.000 Yeah, we can pretty well codify that.

01:41:19.000 And the same with the money and credit figures.

01:41:20.000 Okay, what's going to happen to those on fixed incomes?

01:41:23.000 You've got about 25% of the public, and that's getting bigger every year, with the baby boomers retiring. 0.93

01:41:27.000 20-30% of the public, depending on the breaks.

01:41:30.000 I see all these old folks now, back working at jobs. 1.00

01:41:32.000 I mean, 85-year-old women. 0.93

01:41:34.000 I mean, this is incredible.

01:41:36.000 And I talk to them, and they go, yeah, my check won't pay for it anymore.

01:41:38.000 They've paid into Social Security their whole life.

01:41:40.000 They're being told that inflation's at 2% a year.

01:41:43.000 It's really over 10% compounded the last four years.

01:41:46.000 So they've lost 40% of their check.

01:41:48.000 My God, what are they going to do, Bob?

01:41:51.000 I expect what will happen is that the Dow, or the market, could go down to $4,000.

01:41:57.000 And if that happens, all the pension funds are not going to be able to pay what they're supposed to pay.

01:42:03.000 And that means that we're looking at perhaps a one-third payout on their pension plans.

01:42:10.000 In other words, if you were getting $1,000 a month, then you get $300.

01:42:12.000 And I expect at the same time They would probably arbitrarily in Washington cut Social Security by two-thirds as well.

01:42:21.000 So, I tell subscribers two things.

01:42:25.000 If you're over 60, reinvent yourself every day.

01:42:28.000 If you're 65, do not retire unless you're ill.

01:42:31.000 You work as long as you can.

01:42:35.000 Well, I mean, I know a lot of people who had a few hundred thousand dollars, they thought they could retire, live in a little house, and five, six years has gone by, and they're broke, and they're not living a fancy lifestyle, Bob.

01:42:46.000 No, you're right.

01:42:47.000 And it's going to get worse.

01:42:49.000 And I don't know what they're going to do.

01:42:51.000 You know, nowadays, usually the grandparents are helping the parents.

01:42:56.000 Well, the parents are going to have to turn around and help the grandparents because their sources of income are going to dry up to an extent.

01:43:04.000 What do you think all of the yuppies and the people that run around acting like they're rich and are all matched out, what are they going to do when they're completely broke?

01:43:12.000 I would suicide for a good part of them.

01:43:15.000 They've never had a bad day in their life. 0.99

01:43:19.000 Well, we saw that in 29, didn't we?

01:43:22.000 Absolutely.

01:43:23.000 And most of it was done with, you know, the upper echelon of society.

01:43:28.000 And, you know, people are not going to be able to handle it.

01:43:31.000 They're in debt up to their eyeballs, just like the government and corporate America.

01:43:36.000 I mean, there's no way it can be paid off.

01:43:38.000 The dollar's headed down.

01:43:39.000 It's down again today as gold is up.

01:43:42.000 And the dollar on the USDX, which is the dollar index, which is six other currencies versus the dollar on a weighted basis, is selling for about $75.90 right now.

01:43:53.000 I see that, which was $1,100 four or five years ago, I see that going down to anywhere between $40 and $55.

01:44:02.000 And Ron Paul said the other day it could get down to zero.

01:44:07.000 So you don't want to be in dollar-denominated assets.

01:44:10.000 You want to be in gold and silver denominated assets?

01:44:14.000 Yeah, you know, I would like to be happy that gold went up and happy we were right, Bob, but I'm not happy.

01:44:19.000 It's a hollow victory.

01:44:20.000 I feel horrible.

01:44:21.000 I'm totally upset.

01:44:22.000 I'm worried because I coldly analyzed it and I don't, I think people tuning in think we're even, I don't think they understand, Bob.

01:44:29.000 We can't explain to them when somebody like Dr. Roberts, The father of Reaganomics, the head of the Treasury comes on here, and I said, really horrible depression?

01:44:37.000 He said, no, barter, total breakdown, total global disintegration.

01:44:42.000 If the U.S.

01:44:43.000 bubble pops, you already see the pound dropping.

01:44:45.000 People are like, well, how can we be getting weak and they're getting weaker?

01:44:48.000 Well, that's global inflation.

01:44:50.000 I mean, I just don't think the listeners realize, Bob, what we're talking about here.

01:44:55.000 No, and the only currency that could possibly hold up among all of them is the Swiss franc.

01:45:01.000 It's not backed by gold, and essentially none of them are for all intents and purposes.

01:45:06.000 And the Swiss franc, the Swiss people do have enough gold to back it if they wanted to.

01:45:13.000 And so if you have to have a currency, that's the one.

01:45:17.000 And you know, I know the mentality.

01:45:18.000 I went to school there.

01:45:19.000 I lived in Switzerland for three years.

01:45:21.000 I lived in Europe for seven years and on and on.

01:45:25.000 So, I know how these people think.

01:45:27.000 So, as far as currency is concerned, that's the only one.

01:45:29.000 You know, the Swiss have got it figured out. 0.96

01:45:33.000 Really classy folks over there, and now they're trying to disarm them as well. 0.94

01:45:37.000 So, what type of Swiss denomination?

01:45:39.000 Are you talking about actual currency or bearer bonds or what?

01:45:43.000 I would get Swiss franc government bonds.

01:45:47.000 They yield about 1.8 percent.

01:45:49.000 You can get them through big brokerage houses, and it's not the yield that you're interested in.

01:45:56.000 It's the preservation of your capital, and there are people out there who have enough money that they don't want everything in gold and silver-related assets, so they do go to that, but I don't have too many of them.

01:46:09.000 But I do get questions every day on it.

01:46:12.000 Now, I looked at the Swiss bonds.

01:46:14.000 There's different types.

01:46:15.000 What specifically?

01:46:16.000 The currency bond?

01:46:17.000 Which one are you talking about?

01:46:20.000 Just the bonds that are issued by the Swiss government.

01:46:24.000 And what year bonds would you buy?

01:46:27.000 Well, they come in all sizes.

01:46:29.000 I mean, you can get one for three months, six months, nine months, a year, two years, three years.

01:46:34.000 But I'm asking, which one would you get?

01:46:37.000 A grouping of them?

01:46:38.000 I don't think the yield's important, so I would go out at least three years.

01:46:45.000 Yeah.

01:46:45.000 Okay, let's try to jam some of your calls in, folks.

01:46:48.000 Joe and... And incidentally, you can sell them anytime you want.

01:46:52.000 Absolutely.

01:46:54.000 Joe in Pennsylvania, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:46:56.000 I'm talking about Ron Paul, the economy, all of it.

01:46:59.000 I've got three quick points, so I'm going to try and get on and off, because I know you've got a lot of listeners.

01:47:04.000 First of all, I have about $30,000 in an annuity, and I'm trying to get... My guy won't even take it out and put it into any gold.

01:47:13.000 Or silver, I've been trying to get them to.

01:47:16.000 Firing!

01:47:17.000 Well, yeah, I don't even know how to do it.

01:47:19.000 Liquidate the money and buy a physical asset yourself.

01:47:21.000 Bob, do you agree with that statement?

01:47:23.000 Absolutely.

01:47:24.000 Where would I do that, actually?

01:47:27.000 Well, you terminate the annuity, take the money, and use minus.

01:47:32.000 Cool.

01:47:33.000 The second comment was about the Ron Paul thing. 1.00

01:47:36.000 I watched those debates when they had that, and they absolutely made him look like a fool and a mockery. 0.97

01:47:44.000 And I felt really bad for him, but you're right, he's spot on. 0.97

01:47:47.000 And my other comment was about this thing with Iran, the farce, what I call it. 1.00

01:47:53.000 I do believe that that was staged, but my question about that is, do you think that President Bush could conceivably construct something like another 9-11 to usher in uh... martial law before he leaves office.

01:48:09.000 That is always in the cards.

01:48:10.000 Why do you think they're over there stirring stuff up, trying to provoke things right now?

01:48:14.000 Bob Chapman?

01:48:16.000 I agree.

01:48:17.000 I think that was a false flag operation the other day in the Persian Gulf.

01:48:22.000 Caller, I just lost your audio.

01:48:24.000 I'm here.

01:48:25.000 Okay, finish up.

01:48:26.000 I'm here.

01:48:28.000 I was listening to the Iranian guy and never, when you hear about these attacks, They never say, we are going to bomb.

01:48:38.000 I hear you.

01:48:39.000 I appreciate your call.

01:48:41.000 Okay, Jeremy in Los Angeles, California.

01:48:44.000 Jeremy, you're on the air with Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.

01:48:47.000 Go ahead.

01:48:48.000 Thanks a lot.

01:48:49.000 Hey, both my wife and I are Ron Paul supporters.

01:48:53.000 You know, we've donated to the campaign.

01:48:55.000 The kids are wearing little shirts and the whole deal.

01:48:58.000 But I do have to say, just as important as this recount goes, and I'm with you, I think that they definitely should put the funds into it and go for it. 0.97

01:49:07.000 However, Arianna Huffington, Matt Drudge, ran that story for quite a while, Arianna Huffington did for over 24 hours, ran that story from the New Republic, and I think it's incumbent that Ron Paul, not just a statement on his website, but he has to get out in front of this stupid thing with his newsletter Because I gotta tell you, there's a lot of ignorant people out there, and I got his sticker on the back of my truck. 0.98

01:49:29.000 And I don't want people to think that my family is a bunch of racist pigs. 0.99

01:49:32.000 No, no, no, no, I hear you, sir. 0.99

01:49:33.000 You have to get past that political correctness.

01:49:35.000 They use that as imperial conditioning.

01:49:38.000 It's literal.

01:49:39.000 Number one, he had like eight different newsletters, and now it's coming out that he, that some of these he didn't even look at or read, okay?

01:49:45.000 It's just, it's made up bull.

01:49:47.000 We have to stop caring.

01:49:48.000 It's a bunch of bull. 1.00

01:49:49.000 He didn't lose in New Hampshire because of that stupid story. 1.00

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01:52:55.000 I read the news today, oh boy.

01:53:04.000 Gold had hit 900.

01:53:05.000 About a lucky man who made the grade.

01:53:09.000 And there'd been a new Gulf of Tonkin.

01:53:12.000 And the face scanning cameras are going up.

01:53:19.000 The government's recruiting the preachers to tell their parishioners to hand their guns in.

01:53:25.000 Let me tell you a story.

01:53:29.000 In 1998, during the Texas legislative session, this was picked up even by the NRA website.

01:53:35.000 Or was it 2000?

01:53:36.000 I forget.

01:53:36.000 No, it was 98.

01:53:38.000 I caught bribery on tape.

01:53:40.000 The ethics committee got involved, people got involved, the state police got involved, and then people had to resign, a bunch of stuff happened.

01:53:49.000 And the statesman called me, and the guy that's on the phone, he goes, those are black guys being paid the money that you found them being paid outside.

01:53:57.000 And if those were white guys, would you have shown it?

01:53:59.000 And I said, yes, not about that. 0.63

01:54:01.000 They testified, and they were paid to testify, and that's illegal, and they were paid to go up there and act like gang members, and actually that was racist, to make blacks look bad. 0.83

01:54:10.000 And that guy said, no, I think you're a racist.

01:54:13.000 And it wasn't a black guy, by the way. 0.98

01:54:15.000 It was a white guy, of course. 0.71

01:54:16.000 They use it as a political weapon.

01:54:18.000 And I said, but sir, you have no evidence.

01:54:20.000 You're just saying that.

01:54:22.000 I caught a white guy paying black guys off to go testify and talk about how dangerous they were with guns and how we need to restrict guns.

01:54:31.000 And I said, how could you bring race into this?

01:54:33.000 And the paper had me in there. 0.92

01:54:34.000 Alex Jones attacked innocent black men.

01:54:36.000 Sure, they were being paid off and the committee says it's illegal, but it's all right. 0.99

01:54:41.000 Jones might not like blacks.

01:54:42.000 I mean, just get over it! 0.97

01:54:45.000 Stop letting them lead you around by the nose by this stuff.

01:54:47.000 Who cares?

01:54:48.000 Get past it!

01:54:49.000 It's a joke!

01:54:51.000 You know, the illegal aliens with TV stations can put up 600 and something billboards saying, L.A. 0.83

01:54:56.000 is now Mexico, and that's okay.

01:54:59.000 But then Ron Paul had all these gold companies and stuff and had all these newsletters.

01:55:02.000 Some of them he didn't even read.

01:55:03.000 The people that own them have gone public on that.

01:55:05.000 And now he's blamed for it.

01:55:07.000 Bob Chapman, you want to comment?

01:55:08.000 And then the comments aren't even... They're taken out of context.

01:55:11.000 They're not even bad themselves!

01:55:13.000 Bob?

01:55:14.000 Well, it's what you have to put up with when you're dealing with the kind of people you're dealing with in elections.

01:55:20.000 And it goes on in corporate America as well.

01:55:23.000 And the best way to neutralize those situations is confront them immediately and answer the questions.

01:55:33.000 And that's what he's done.

01:55:35.000 Well, the New Republic's going to get sued, too.

01:55:38.000 And I know they're liars because He did this trick in the article, and I've got it here in a stack, and by lying, he says, Jones believes that the elite will become cyborgs and fly through outer space. 0.84

01:55:52.000 No, I say they're a bunch of nuts, and that the transhumanists, who are eugenicists, have said that, and those are quotes. 0.98

01:55:59.000 So, see, I didn't say that. 0.89

01:56:00.000 He didn't say Ray Kurzweil says.

01:56:03.000 He says, I believe, and then takes excise quotes and puts them together.

01:56:07.000 Now, what is that called, Bob?

01:56:08.000 Plagiarism?

01:56:12.000 Yeah, I've just had enough.

01:56:14.000 Lying?

01:56:14.000 I've just had enough.

01:56:15.000 Bob, I know you're really busy, but I want to take a few more calls.

01:56:18.000 Can you stay with us about 10 minutes, 20 minutes to the next hour?

01:56:20.000 No problem.

01:56:20.000 Okay, great.

01:56:21.000 Let's try to jam one more in here before we go to break.

01:56:26.000 Chris in New York, you're on the air.

01:56:27.000 Go ahead.

01:56:28.000 Hey, Alex, it's Craig.

01:56:30.000 By the way, I'm a graduate, a master's, a government training cap from Ivy League University, and I've read all the New Republics.

01:56:37.000 New Republic, they stupefy people. 0.70

01:56:39.000 Walter Limmon wrote Public Opinion, Phantom Republic.

01:56:42.000 He knew all about saying things like they did with race just to stupefy the public for social control.

01:56:47.000 And look what they said about the CFR.

01:56:49.000 They said it didn't exist.

01:56:50.000 I had to read things from Farm Relations in order to get my masters.

01:56:53.000 And quite frankly, the trilateral CFR, what's really behind it is Howard Stern, the king of all media.

01:56:59.000 Baba Booey, Howard Stern.

01:57:00.000 Baba Booey, Baba Booey. 1.00

01:57:01.000 That's funny.

01:57:02.000 Well, I'm glad you... I appreciate your call, sir.

01:57:04.000 That's just ultra-mindless.

01:57:07.000 But that's a good thing, I mean, for you to do there, sir.

01:57:13.000 As if that hurts me to be bop-a-boo-eyed.

01:57:17.000 That is just hilarious.

01:57:20.000 You're going to be saying bop-a-boo-eyed when New York tears itself apart when there's a depression, little boy.

01:57:25.000 So you've been trained to be a child.

01:57:31.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:57:32.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:57:37.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

01:57:40.000 Big Brother.

01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:55.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 We will recap some of the top stories coming up in the next segment.

01:58:18.000 Amen. .

01:58:20.000 The company running elections in New Hampshire with a narcotics trafficker running it.

01:58:27.000 We just broke that up on PrisonPlanet.com, TruthNews.us, RonPaulWarRoom.com.

01:58:35.000 Kind enough to be with us this segment.

01:58:36.000 The next is Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com.

01:58:39.000 We'll tell you how to get a free copy before he leaves us.

01:58:43.000 I was going to have a lady on about Kim Trayl today. 0.99

01:58:45.000 I keep rescheduling her and I've got the Granny Warriors coming on. 1.00

01:58:47.000 They're trying to do a recount.

01:58:48.000 There's just too much happening.

01:58:50.000 Let's continue with these calls.

01:58:52.000 We just got Howard Stern, Boppa Booey.

01:58:54.000 You know, that's all fine and dandy and fun, but we're dealing with adult stuff here.

01:58:59.000 And believe me, when you're in a soup line, then you're going to remember this, son.

01:59:04.000 It's not funny.

01:59:06.000 We don't have an agrarian society now.

01:59:08.000 We were 80% rural then.

01:59:11.000 We could survive.

01:59:13.000 We can't survive it now.

01:59:14.000 Do you understand? 0.95

01:59:15.000 Because you're a bunch of domesticated monkeys. 0.98

01:59:18.000 You're little children. 0.97

01:59:19.000 You don't know how to skin a buck or run a trot line.

01:59:21.000 You don't know anything.

01:59:23.000 Even how to wipe your little snot noses. 1.00

01:59:25.000 Do you have any comments, Bob Chapman, to how soft people have gotten in general and stupid? 1.00

01:59:31.000 Well, they sure have. 1.00

01:59:32.000 It shows up in all segments of society.

01:59:35.000 And it runs the gamut.

01:59:37.000 I wrote a piece this morning about corporate criminality and how corporations are Uh, making arrangements for criminal suits, uh, criminal actions to be dropped against them and, uh, and so that they can pay fines and, and worm their way out of it.

01:59:59.000 And, uh, John Ashcroft is in, in, in the, in the, in the center, uh, of one of these problem situations.

02:00:06.000 In 05, they did five of those.

02:00:08.000 In 06, they did 33 of them.

02:00:10.000 And what softness there is there, Is that there's always some way you can buy your way out of something.

02:00:18.000 Well, the local environmentalists here in town... And that goes all the way down the line.

02:00:22.000 Exactly.

02:00:22.000 Take here in Austin.

02:00:24.000 They got the former city officials who openly own the banks and own the land and own the property of people they stole it from.

02:00:31.000 I mean, it's just mafia right out in the open.

02:00:33.000 And they'll just laugh at you.

02:00:34.000 They just don't even care now, Bob.

02:00:36.000 That's right.

02:00:37.000 Well, they will once difficulties come.

02:00:40.000 If they do come, Because people are going to say, who did this to us?

02:00:45.000 And you and I will be around to point them out so that they can go to trial and be adjudicated.

02:00:53.000 Well, I just can't... I mean, it's scary.

02:00:56.000 You say, if things unravel, it's going to unravel, isn't it, Bob?

02:00:59.000 The question is, how bad is it going to unravel and when is it going to completely unravel?

02:01:04.000 Well, I think it's going to go on for several years, maybe as long as five or six.

02:01:09.000 They're going to grasp at any straw that they can to keep this thing going, because their whole timetable was disrupted.

02:01:17.000 The situation that they had created in the Middle East was a failure. 0.96

02:01:23.000 And even Zbigniew Brzezinski said, it set back our plans for world government by 30 years.

02:01:30.000 And I think it's longer than that.

02:01:32.000 Why did they think they could carry out 9-11 and that would... I mean, because that failed for them too, didn't it?

02:01:38.000 It really did, and of course the invasions and occupations in the Middle East have turned into mush. 0.91

02:01:45.000 We've got a situation where they're trying to start a war with Iran and can't. 0.60

02:01:48.000 Pakistan's upside down because Lou Cherif wouldn't play ball with Bhutto. 0.68

02:01:55.000 They both hated each other, so he hurt her, had her blasted away with the assiduance of the U.S.

02:02:00.000 government.

02:02:01.000 And because all those things have gone on, what they've done to the economy to make it fall They wanted to put off because it wasn't time anymore.

02:02:12.000 And they couldn't stop the timetable.

02:02:16.000 And they're stuck.

02:02:18.000 And they're going to do everything they can to keep this thing afloat.

02:02:21.000 Now Bob... Sorry Bob, go ahead.

02:02:23.000 Sooner or later we're going to have to face the music.

02:02:26.000 I want to ask you when we get back and then go to the calls.

02:02:28.000 Does their extending it out and playing games make it worse when it finally unravels?

02:02:33.000 Because the common thought is it does.

02:02:35.000 It does it in your educated opinion.

02:02:37.000 We'll be back with your calls and a lot more.

02:02:39.000 Final segment with Bob Chapman.

02:02:40.000 More on Ron Paul and the election theft in New Hampshire.

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02:05:45.000 I don't like it that I see.

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02:06:20.000 But I am getting fed up now, my friend.

02:06:25.000 Thank you. .

02:06:26.000 And if you don't understand what I've said, I'm tired of being Johnny Begood and I'm gonna be Johnny Repp.

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02:06:44.000 And I'll work like hell just to keep a roof and a bed.

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02:06:54.000 Got old Hank Williams Jr.

02:07:03.000 This country's getting in a kind of bad shape When the gasoline profits are up, up and away And I can barely live on my take-home pay There's a whole lot of people that agree with what I say.

02:07:23.000 Don't tell me to ride above and turn down my thermostat.

02:07:27.000 When you're all running around in jets and Cadillacs.

02:07:33.000 We can't take this lying down.

02:07:35.000 We gotta try and fight back.

02:07:38.000 Till they believe what we said.

02:07:42.000 We're tired of being Johnny D. Goode.

02:07:44.000 Then we gotta be Johnny Red.

02:07:48.000 Yeah, we're gonna be Johnny Rebs.

02:07:52.000 Cause we don't believe everything we've seen and read.

02:07:57.000 And we work like hell just to keep a roof and a bed.

02:08:02.000 We're tired of being Johnny B. Goode and we're gonna be Johnny Rebs.

02:08:07.000 And that's the $64 million question from Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com.

02:08:17.000 Warrior Call is coming up in just a moment.

02:08:19.000 Bob, you heard my question back at the end of the break.

02:08:27.000 Extending it out, does that make it worse, A?

02:08:30.000 And B, again, I know you're saying this is going to unravel, it's only going to get worse over the next few years.

02:08:36.000 I mean, what are the breaks?

02:08:38.000 Is it going to be 50% chances to horrible recession, 50% chance to depression?

02:08:45.000 I mean, try to quantify that for us.

02:08:49.000 Well, we're in recession already, and the recession will get considerably worse over the next couple of years, and it will turn into depression.

02:08:57.000 And how long can they keep it going?

02:08:59.000 And how far can they take it?

02:09:01.000 I don't know, but I do know That they probably can take it out over the next couple of years at least, and probably three.

02:09:08.000 Maybe longer.

02:09:09.000 It all depends on how things break, and you just never know.

02:09:13.000 The chances of depression, I think, are without a change in Washington, without Ron Paul, and without a change in Congress, we're talking about probably 80% chance of depression.

02:09:29.000 If Ron Paul were to be neglected, he doesn't have any magic elixirs, But he knows all about the problems.

02:09:35.000 They will be addressed, and maybe we'll be able to make it through the Depression without killing each other. 0.99

02:09:42.000 Now the establishment aren't complete idiots at the top, that's why they're in control. 0.99

02:09:45.000 They have to know all this, but they're not changing course. 0.99

02:09:48.000 They're just trying to run offshore, as they're all doing, and literally buying private islands.

02:09:52.000 I know a lot of elite people, who know even bigger elite people, and they say, the word is, the U.S.

02:09:58.000 quote, isn't going to exist.

02:10:00.000 And then I say, what does that mean?

02:10:01.000 And they just say, just, just, you know, hell on earth.

02:10:04.000 And I go, well, what does that mean?

02:10:05.000 And they just said, basically what Paul Craig Roberts says, and what's going to happen when the yuppies start to find out?

02:10:12.000 I mean, they've been telling, we've been in a recession for, what, over a year, really getting serious.

02:10:15.000 Now, now they're admitting we're in a recession, now they're saying maybe depression.

02:10:19.000 What happens when yuppies find out what dollar devaluation means?

02:10:22.000 What happens when they find out about the real world?

02:10:24.000 Then they lose confidence, then it accelerates.

02:10:28.000 Well, I think probably they'll lose their jobs.

02:10:34.000 They'll have to take jobs which, if they can find them, which don't suit the income that they had previously.

02:10:44.000 Their debt, which all of them have a great deal of, is going to blow up in their face.

02:10:50.000 Many, many, many of them will go bankrupt.

02:10:54.000 And I think that the whole uh... to genre people let's say under under forty forty five uh... are going to be in a terrible situation because they don't want to understand or they don't understand And they're just going to have to pay for it.

02:11:12.000 By the way, as you know, Bob, because I know you watch the national news shows and hear it, have you seen all the snickering and laughing and they giggle at people like us and make little jokes?

02:11:21.000 Oh, the dollar, it's not going down.

02:11:23.000 Oh, everything's... I mean, is that a confidence job with most of them?

02:11:26.000 Or do you think some of them actually believe their own bull?

02:11:29.000 I think a lot of them believe their own bull, especially on Wall Street.

02:11:33.000 And, you know, when I run up against them, I say, hey, wait a minute.

02:11:37.000 Do you want to go back and see what I did?

02:11:40.000 We got out of the market at the top in 2000, in April.

02:11:44.000 We got everybody along gold and silver-related assets.

02:11:47.000 They've made a fortune.

02:11:48.000 Two years ago, three years ago, we got everybody out of their houses who wanted to get out and got rid of their extra property.

02:11:55.000 Same advice we put out!

02:11:56.000 I mean, we've given everybody pure gold, Bob!

02:11:58.000 Mm-hmm.

02:12:01.000 And so, you know, they can't argue with us.

02:12:02.000 They say, look, the record is there.

02:12:04.000 We're right, you're wrong.

02:12:05.000 If you want to keep on doing what you're doing, that's fine.

02:12:08.000 I can't save everybody.

02:12:12.000 Well, a lot of people are saying, you know, we shouldn't have a gold-backed currency or get back to sound money because the elite owns the gold.

02:12:18.000 Well, they also own the fiat, and Paul's just saying we need to move out of that system towards something that's got a controlled benchmark, and a lot of people in our own camp are saying he's wrong about that.

02:12:28.000 Your take on that?

02:12:30.000 I think he said move parallel, and I think he's right.

02:12:33.000 You can't totally disrupt the system on the spot.

02:12:37.000 You know, things are going to be bad enough as it is, and so I think you're going to have to have A dollar and a gold-backed dollar.

02:12:45.000 That's what he said is competing currencies.

02:12:47.000 They misconstrue what he really says.

02:12:50.000 That's right.

02:12:51.000 And that's deliberate.

02:12:54.000 And it's a very complex subject, too, so it's not easy for most people to understand.

02:12:58.000 Well, I notice when you get attacked, when I get attacked, when Ron Paul gets attacked, because I see the attacks against you, they never attack the man in the real idea.

02:13:04.000 They create from him and then attack that.

02:13:06.000 Mm-hmm.

02:13:09.000 Absolutely.

02:13:12.000 Those attacks are going to get bigger and greater as we go along.

02:13:15.000 And you're going to have to have an armadillo skin.

02:13:20.000 And I hope you have a license to carry.

02:13:22.000 I do.

02:13:24.000 I like being attacked because it lets me know, Bob, I'm doing my job.

02:13:30.000 You got it.

02:13:31.000 Let's take a couple calls here.

02:13:32.000 Let's talk to Jeff in Vermont.

02:13:34.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman, Jeff.

02:13:36.000 Hi, Alex.

02:13:36.000 I have a very urgent message to all Ron Paul supporters.

02:13:41.000 This morning I contacted Republican presidential candidate Albert Howard.

02:13:45.000 He's from Ann Arbor, Michigan, and he was on the ballot in New Hampshire.

02:13:49.000 Yes.

02:13:50.000 He says he would be absolutely 100% behind asking for a recount, but the trouble is, from my research, I believe it's without an injunction, we only have until tomorrow to file.

02:14:01.000 So I contacted the Granny Warriors, I know you're going to have them on later.

02:14:06.000 And I left another message after I talked to him the first time, that they have enough money to fly, get him on a plane, but it has to happen like right now.

02:14:13.000 We've got to get him on a plane in New Hampshire, put him up in a hotel room.

02:14:16.000 I know, I know.

02:14:17.000 Listen, and I appreciate your call.

02:14:19.000 I can't do it all.

02:14:21.000 I've called the Paul campaign.

02:14:24.000 I have talked to Bev Harris.

02:14:26.000 I have, I've got the Granny Warriors coming on. 1.00

02:14:30.000 I'm not sure about it having to be tomorrow.

02:14:32.000 We've got to vet that out.

02:14:33.000 We don't have time to wait.

02:14:34.000 I agree we shouldn't wait any longer.

02:14:36.000 I mean, I just can't hold the whole world up on my shoulders like Atlas.

02:14:39.000 We're trying here.

02:14:41.000 Bob, I think it's the Ron Paul campaign's place.

02:14:43.000 I mean, I'm glad this other fellow's going to try it, but I'm not mad at the Paul campaign, but, you know, they've got to get more aggressive.

02:14:50.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:14:51.000 We only can do so much.

02:14:53.000 I mean, I don't have a radio program like you do.

02:14:56.000 I'm just kind of a A sidewinder. 0.97

02:14:58.000 I visit 18 programs a week.

02:15:01.000 But they can't expect us to do publications, get on the air, do all the research, and then run around and take legal actions on their behalf.

02:15:13.000 They've got to do it.

02:15:16.000 And I guess we do need to get some money to Mr. Howard and Albert Howard.

02:15:21.000 And I'll tell you what, I've got some money here offering to bankroll it.

02:15:24.000 And I know the guys helped me out before.

02:15:27.000 So I'll talk to the Granny Warriors and I'll just get the number to Mr. Howard and I'll put him in touch with our good friend, I'm not even going to say his first name, and then we'll put the ball in their court. 0.99

02:15:42.000 In fact, I'm not going to wait on this anymore.

02:15:44.000 Hey, Aaron!

02:15:46.000 I always yell at Aaron because he's right out the glass.

02:15:48.000 Aaron, come in here.

02:15:49.000 Fine, we'll just take action.

02:15:49.000 I'm not going to wait anymore.

02:15:50.000 We'll put the airplanes in the air and we'll make Ron Paul run and we'll just do everything from behind the scenes.

02:15:56.000 Go call the Granny Warriors. 1.00

02:15:57.000 They're coming on later, but we can't wait.

02:15:58.000 Get Howard's number and then call Howard and put him in touch with this individual.

02:16:06.000 This is the German High Court article.

02:16:08.000 Get the other one.

02:16:10.000 I'm just having to do this live on the air.

02:16:10.000 I'm sorry, Bob.

02:16:12.000 No problem.

02:16:13.000 Give this information.

02:16:16.000 Now I can't find it.

02:16:19.000 Go to Mike, the contributor.

02:16:20.000 Go to him, get the Granny Warriors on the line, get this Howard guy's number, and put the contributor on the line with the Howard guy to give him the money to go. 0.95

02:16:29.000 Sorry, Bob, go ahead.

02:16:31.000 No, that's okay.

02:16:34.000 You were going to come up with another question when that struck your fancy.

02:16:37.000 Well, it's just about waiting.

02:16:38.000 It'll end up not happening.

02:16:41.000 We can feel revolution.

02:16:42.000 Do you not see, I mean the positive side though, I mean I'm asking your opinion, do you not see a huge awakening happening though?

02:16:49.000 No, I can see it's happening.

02:16:50.000 It's happening very slowly unfortunately.

02:16:52.000 What will expedite it is during this year, unemployment will climb probably a couple of points.

02:16:58.000 They say it's 5%, that would be 7%.

02:17:02.000 I say it's 14, that would be 16.

02:17:05.000 And that'll start to wake people up.

02:17:08.000 Uh, they're already seeing it in the pocketbook.

02:17:10.000 You saw it in the Christmas sales.

02:17:12.000 Uh, the credit card debits are up high.

02:17:15.000 Uh, the, uh, people are scrambling to, uh, use their homes still as long as they can as ATM machines.

02:17:23.000 That's ending.

02:17:24.000 Uh, the money's not going to be there anymore.

02:17:26.000 That $500-600 billion a year.

02:17:31.000 Bob, do go to the bottom of the hour with us.

02:17:33.000 Quick break.

02:17:33.000 Final five minutes of Bob.

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02:22:11.000 Let's jam in some final calls from Bob Chapman.

02:22:13.000 Mike in New York, you're on the air.

02:22:15.000 Go ahead.

02:22:16.000 Yes, Alex.

02:22:16.000 This is Mike up in Rochester.

02:22:18.000 Listen, thanks for all you do.

02:22:20.000 Last Thursday, my son and I, a 13-year-old son, drove up to Manchester to work with the Operation Live Free or Die people, and I just wanted your listeners to know what a great group of people they... you know, they really were decent, smart, intelligent.

02:22:33.000 You know, they all just came from all over the country.

02:22:35.000 They just drove up there.

02:22:36.000 They didn't know where to go or anything.

02:22:38.000 They just showed up.

02:22:40.000 You know, we did sign waving and marching and door-to-door canvassing, phone banking and poll watching.

02:22:45.000 And I want to encourage your listeners to, you know, when I hear you say this to your listeners many times, to just get involved and not wait.

02:22:53.000 You know, to just, wherever you are, just get out.

02:22:56.000 You know, that people, you know, they need numbers.

02:23:01.000 They need to see somebody else doing it.

02:23:04.000 And they'll get involved themselves.

02:23:06.000 It was really amazing.

02:23:07.000 I mean, we were walking up and down the streets.

02:23:09.000 We own the streets.

02:23:11.000 Up there in Manchester was really something.

02:23:12.000 But magically run.

02:23:14.000 Paul didn't even got half of what he got composed.

02:23:18.000 But you know, those campaigns know about us.

02:23:20.000 Let's get a comment from Bob Chapman on people taking action.

02:23:25.000 Thanks for the call, sir.

02:23:26.000 Bob?

02:23:27.000 Well, you know, it's incumbent that they do take action and otherwise nothing's going to happen.

02:23:33.000 And in New Hampshire, they obviously just don't understand Let's say that Ron Paul got 15% of the vote.

02:23:44.000 They still don't understand what the problem is.

02:23:48.000 It's got to be communicated to them.

02:23:51.000 Ron Paul's got to get on the air and he's got to Continue to tell people what's going on, what's really going on.

02:23:58.000 Bob, is there a silver lining to all this?

02:24:00.000 Because we've told everybody about the New World Order, the fractional reserve banking, the devaluation of the currency, what the New World Order is, the North American Union, the public's just now starting to learn about it, and then everything Ron Paul said was going to happen is now starting to happen, and so when stuff really gets bad, then they're going to remember and know who to blame.

02:24:20.000 Well, I think you're right about that, but We need action now.

02:24:24.000 We need people to say, gee, let's put this man in office so that maybe the times won't be as bad as they would be otherwise.

02:24:33.000 But maybe one of thousands of newsletters over the years that he didn't write, somebody said something halfway a little unpolitically correct.

02:24:41.000 Let's just forget about it.

02:24:44.000 Tim in Ohio, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

02:24:47.000 Go ahead, Tim.

02:24:48.000 Hello, gentlemen.

02:24:49.000 I have a comment and a quick question.

02:24:51.000 Back in 2003, Dr. Lawrence Britt had written a paper where he examined different fascist regimes, and he came up with 14 characteristics, and fraudulent elections was one of them.

02:25:02.000 If I may briefly read, sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham.

02:25:07.000 Other times, elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassinations of opposition candidates, and they go into use of legislation, the manipulation of the media, that kind of stuff.

02:25:18.000 Now, my question is, I know there's a lot, what you said earlier Alex, there's a significant amount of cash involved in these recounts?

02:25:28.000 Yes.

02:25:29.000 $60,000 is a lot of monetized debt, and I'm just wondering if they're doing that on purpose just so they can steal more money from us?

02:25:36.000 Oh, they could care less about $67,000, thanks.

02:25:39.000 They control the money, they issue the money.

02:25:41.000 There's this thought, and I'm not trying to poo-poo you, but I want a final comment from From our guest, Bob Chapman, people think the elite want to, quote, make money, and their minions do, but the elite issue the currency.

02:25:52.000 They issue the control of the systems.

02:25:54.000 They're all about controlling the infrastructure, Bob.

02:25:58.000 Yeah, they do what they want to do, and a good example of that is the arrogance in which they've tried to rig the election in New Hampshire, and they're not doing it.

02:26:06.000 And just like in Florida.

02:26:07.000 And yes, the American people know that that goes on.

02:26:12.000 And they've got to try to do something about it.

02:26:15.000 They gotta get out and vote for Ron Paul and vote against people who refuse to cede to their wishes in Congress.

02:26:27.000 Bob, how do folks get a free sample copy of your newsletter?

02:26:29.000 How do they sign up for it?

02:26:30.000 It's a true value.

02:26:33.000 They can go to the site which you've been mentioning for the last hour or so, which is TheInternationalForecaster.com.

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02:26:45.000 Or they can call toll free to 800-375-4188.

02:26:51.000 That's 800-375-4188.

02:26:56.000 Bob Chapman, thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:26:58.000 And let's not skip a year next time.

02:26:59.000 Let me get you on very soon again to give us analysis on what's happening.

02:27:04.000 Just let me know.

02:27:05.000 Thank you, Bob.

02:27:05.000 Thank you.

02:27:06.000 You bet.

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02:27:19.000 Maybe they hyper-warped from New Hampshire, but I've got to, I guess, greet them or something, or... Who knows?

02:27:26.000 It's insane.

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02:31:00.000 Alright, we're back live.

02:31:08.000 It is literally a three ring circus here.

02:31:11.000 I keep watching a bus drive back and forth with a monkey, a literal monkey of some type on the back.

02:31:18.000 A living monkey.

02:31:19.000 It says Granny Warriors. 0.93

02:31:20.000 My whole crew just went spilling out the front of the office.

02:31:25.000 I'm living in an insane asylum.

02:31:27.000 Literally, it's a Twilight Zone episode.

02:31:30.000 And we're trying to get this candidate.

02:31:32.000 Yes, it's on his own website.

02:31:34.000 It's all over the web, so it's no secret.

02:31:36.000 One of the Republican candidates to fly out to New Hampshire to contest the vote.

02:31:41.000 There's something about it.

02:31:41.000 There's a deadline tomorrow.

02:31:42.000 We have not confirmed that.

02:31:44.000 For those that just joined us, there is definitely... I'm not joking about the monkey folks, okay?

02:31:52.000 Man, I can't handle it.

02:31:52.000 It's like I live in the Big Lebowski or something.

02:31:54.000 First, we had Sutton, where they said he had zero votes, Ron Paul, and then magically people come out and say no on the ronpaulwarrum.com.

02:32:07.000 They say, hey, we voted.

02:32:09.000 And now other counties are saying, the townships, we voted, we voted, we voted, we voted.

02:32:14.000 On and on and on.

02:32:17.000 So, that developed, and then you have in all these townships, 500 votes, 200 votes, 300 votes, 20 votes, I mean, where it says other.

02:32:26.000 It doesn't say who it is, it just says other, and they say, we're not going to tell you what that means.

02:32:30.000 It's not one of the 12 candidates.

02:32:34.000 And then you have the fact that Ron Paul should have gotten double his numbers according to what the polls showed.

02:32:38.000 Same thing with Obama. 0.96

02:32:39.000 He was 20 points against that witch, Hillary. 0.90

02:32:41.000 I don't even like Obama. 0.66

02:32:42.000 I don't trust him as far as you can throw him.

02:32:45.000 Life's CFR, the rest of it.

02:32:46.000 But compared to Hillary, he's an angel cake, at least for now.

02:32:48.000 Doesn't have all the dirt under his belt.

02:32:50.000 She does.

02:32:50.000 Maybe someday he will.

02:32:51.000 I don't trust him.

02:32:52.000 But the point is, is he obviously has been cheated.

02:32:55.000 And it's Albert Howard, U.S.

02:32:56.000 president 2008 and and he looks like quite a character himself We'll see if he's the guy to fly out there and contest it.

02:33:15.000 Hey, anybody can contest it.

02:33:16.000 That's fine with me, but we need Ron Paul to contest it!

02:33:21.000 And I know that's what's making all you go crazy out there.

02:33:23.000 I don't know what to say.

02:33:24.000 Let's go to Granny Warrior, Linda, Honeycutt, I know it's been all over the place on Terry Shiloh issues, you name it.

02:33:31.000 For years, they drive around on their bus.

02:33:32.000 Linda, tell us what you do around the country.

02:33:34.000 Tell us what your job is.

02:33:37.000 I'm the female Alex Jones.

02:33:39.000 Yeah.

02:33:39.000 I like to stir up trouble.

02:33:41.000 But you got a monkey to boot.

02:33:43.000 Well, yeah, I've got something you haven't got.

02:33:45.000 I mean, literally, I looked, I forgot, you guys.

02:33:48.000 Now describe this monkey, because I'm looking out the window here and I'm thinking somebody slipped me some LSD or something.

02:33:54.000 What's going on here with the monkey?

02:33:56.000 Oh, he's my buddy.

02:33:58.000 What kind of creature is it?

02:34:00.000 What kind of primate?

02:34:01.000 He's a capuchin monkey from Brazil.

02:34:06.000 A capuchin monkey from Brazil? 0.98

02:34:09.000 Yeah, he's one of those illegal aliens. 0.93

02:34:11.000 And what does the capuchin monkey riding around on the back of the RV do for you? 0.99

02:34:14.000 Just spread the word of liberty?

02:34:16.000 That's right.

02:34:17.000 He draws a crowd for us and everywhere there's a crowd we get a chance to hand out Ron Paul information.

02:34:22.000 Well, I know you guys have done a great job.

02:34:25.000 Okay, you raised... Have you had a chance to go to the computer now?

02:34:27.000 It was like six grand this morning.

02:34:30.000 I haven't looked at it, but I just talked to Mr. Howard and he's ready to fly out.

02:34:34.000 All I've got to do is get him his plane ticket.

02:34:36.000 How did you just talk to Mr. Howard?

02:34:37.000 You told us ten minutes ago you didn't have his number.

02:34:40.000 Well, somebody called me in between there.

02:34:42.000 In fact, Mr. Howard just called.

02:34:44.000 Okay, good.

02:34:45.000 Well, can you get over here to the office so we can talk to him?

02:34:47.000 Because we have a contributor who also wants to help.

02:34:51.000 Sure can.

02:34:52.000 I don't think you're very far away, are you?

02:34:54.000 Well, are you looking for our office?

02:34:56.000 We thought we were doing an interview over the phone, but we see the monkey and the whole circus rolling down the street.

02:35:02.000 We're parked on the street somewhere, and the guy just got out to go talk to somebody.

02:35:08.000 Okay, okay.

02:35:09.000 We're going to have you guys just come on over to the office because I don't want any time to waste.

02:35:14.000 And then we need to go ahead and call Mr. Howard.

02:35:19.000 We need to call Mr. Howard because I want to fire and forget.

02:35:21.000 I want to do my duty, give him the contributor, or I guess if you guys have got the money, that's fine.

02:35:26.000 It's not the money.

02:35:26.000 We'll just go ahead and make the plans and get it done.

02:35:29.000 No, I know, but we have a big contributor.

02:35:31.000 It might help more with other things like paying for the recount.

02:35:34.000 Well, you know, it's not going to cost that much.

02:35:37.000 Everybody says $65,000.

02:35:38.000 From what I've heard, it's $500,000.

02:35:42.000 I've tried to do recounts here locally, and it was like $60,000-something.

02:35:46.000 I think, because people live in Travis County, it's about like New Hampshire.

02:35:49.000 It's a million people.

02:35:50.000 I think you've got to do a total recount if you do it, because a single recount in a single area doesn't do it.

02:35:56.000 You want to show the entire fraud.

02:35:59.000 Exactly.

02:36:00.000 I think you're going to need more than $500,000.

02:36:01.000 Bob Harris says it's $67,000.

02:36:04.000 Okay, well, she ought to know.

02:36:06.000 We talked to her earlier.

02:36:07.000 I didn't even get into the crisis with her, though.

02:36:09.000 Well, really, it needs to be the Ron Paul campaign here.

02:36:11.000 I mean, I understand Granny Warriors and Monkeys and everything else.

02:36:15.000 You know, whoever's got to do the job will do it.

02:36:17.000 But I'm just thinking we need expertise, strategy.

02:36:20.000 We don't have time to wait on all of this.

02:36:22.000 That's right.

02:36:23.000 And you can forget the campaign committee, because they'll talk about it for the next two weeks.

02:36:28.000 They'll be just too late.

02:36:31.000 You know, they're just, they're real smart people and I have a lot of respect for them, but they're just not, they're just not able to comprehend what's going on with average folks like us, you know?

02:36:43.000 We want something done now.

02:36:46.000 I understand.

02:36:46.000 I understand what you're saying.

02:36:48.000 We've got to take action.

02:36:49.000 We can't wait if it's thrust to us to do this and it has to be done.

02:36:54.000 Okay, well, just come on over to the office then and And just walk on in, and you can bring the monkey, too.

02:37:02.000 We never had a monkey in the office.

02:37:05.000 Well, I'd make two of them.

02:37:08.000 So bring them on over, and then let's get Howard on the phone, and if you want this contributor who's helped us out in the past, you can have him.

02:37:14.000 If not, fine.

02:37:15.000 You can just try to collect money there on the chip-in deal.

02:37:18.000 So we'll talk to you in a moment.

02:37:20.000 Anything else you want to add?

02:37:22.000 No, just tell them to go to my website and look at what we're doing.

02:37:25.000 What is that?

02:37:26.000 GrannyWarriors.com.

02:37:28.000 GrannyWarriors.com.

02:37:29.000 Alright, I look forward to meeting you and the monkey here in person in a moment.

02:37:34.000 Alright, I'll see you in a few minutes.

02:37:35.000 Oh, God.

02:37:40.000 Man, this is a twilight zone.

02:37:42.000 And we've got this felon running the machines and the cards for the computers.

02:37:49.000 It's always a narcotic trafficker.

02:37:51.000 It's never anything else.

02:37:53.000 Sometimes it's the double goody of a CIA operative who's a convicted narcotics trafficker, but that's who runs it all.

02:38:01.000 You run that, you run everything.

02:38:02.000 You don't think over every county and every city and every town that they're not going to have somebody in there to control that?

02:38:06.000 Of course they are.

02:38:07.000 That's where billions per city is at.

02:38:09.000 Alright, I said I'd take calls.

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02:38:27.000 Ron Paul not only had New Hampshire stolen from him, so did Barack Obama, hands down, absolutely confirmed.

02:38:35.000 And now you've got a felon narcotics dealer running it, and the national media, this is the big issue, even bigger than what is Ron Paul going to do.

02:38:47.000 The national media in a few places had mentioned, okay, there were some places where Ron Paul didn't have his votes counted.

02:38:53.000 That's a big issue. 0.88

02:38:54.000 Now you've got a drug dealer.

02:38:55.000 And every time this happens, it's in regional news, never national news.

02:38:58.000 We had an article up on truthnews.us, prisonplanet.com, prisonplanet.tv.

02:39:03.000 I don't care which person does it.

02:39:06.000 I don't care who gets it done of my writers.

02:39:08.000 You've got smart listeners out there.

02:39:11.000 You're welcome to go compile it, post it on rompallwarroom.com.

02:39:17.000 We'll put it on all the other big sites and magnify it.

02:39:20.000 Somebody needs to put a challenge out to the national media and say, listen, we can't have convicted drug dealers running the computers and running the election in New Hampshire, and also we need somebody to put a call out to Ron Paul.

02:39:33.000 I know D.B.

02:39:34.000 Kidd's done it at News Reviews.

02:39:36.000 That's good.

02:39:38.000 You know, here's the strategy reasons you gotta do this, but not just strategy.

02:39:42.000 If there's fraud, the electoral system, the election system, the voting system is bigger than Ron Paul.

02:39:48.000 And, you know, there's this idea in the corporate world of the two parties that you don't contest elections.

02:39:54.000 Bull! 0.98

02:39:56.000 Bull! 0.98

02:39:56.000 If you've got cheating going on, that is bigger than the election. 0.98

02:40:00.000 That is about the people's right to go in there and vote.

02:40:04.000 And here we are.

02:40:04.000 I'm not going to just let this go by.

02:40:06.000 I'm not going to just sit here and let all this happen.

02:40:09.000 I'm so sick of it.

02:40:15.000 I'm just so sick of, you know, you have corruption right out in the open.

02:40:18.000 The polls don't fit, Matt.

02:40:19.000 You've got corruption going on.

02:40:21.000 You've got votes not being counted.

02:40:23.000 You've got all these witnesses.

02:40:24.000 You've got Greenville now with the same thing happening.

02:40:26.000 You've got a drug dealer running it all who threatens people reportedly.

02:40:30.000 You've got all this happening and the national media isn't covering it!

02:40:35.000 Call CNN!

02:40:36.000 Call Fox!

02:40:37.000 Start a boycott of them if they don't cover it!

02:40:39.000 Call all the New Hampshire papers!

02:40:41.000 You tell them, You talk about this guy having a criminal record, now there's a pattern to this nationwide! 0.99

02:40:46.000 That's news, you little corporate whore media! 1.00

02:40:49.000 And don't you try to say it isn't! 0.99

02:40:51.000 It's as big a news as it gets.

02:40:52.000 And it's the same thing with all these issues.

02:41:02.000 Thank you.

02:41:02.000 Amen.

02:41:05.000 I'm sorry, I'm just exhausted.

02:41:06.000 I'm in between being exhausted and angry.

02:41:08.000 I'm just emotionally sucked dry.

02:41:11.000 And all I got is anger left.

02:41:14.000 And you throw in RVs and granny warriors and monkeys and it just takes me to a whole other level. 1.00

02:41:19.000 I just frankly can't handle it.

02:41:22.000 Oh God.

02:41:27.000 You got the UN saying get ready for massive flu pandemics and mass death and martial law, mainstream news, Reuters.

02:41:33.000 I can't handle it.

02:41:34.000 The dollar plunging, gold exploding, I can't handle it. 1.00

02:41:37.000 Nutcase, idiot citizenry that knows nothing of what's going on. 1.00

02:41:41.000 Freaked out, brainwashed cops in black uniforms, face scanning cameras, control grids, open borders, foreigners running all over us. 1.00

02:41:48.000 Well, I mean, this is insane! 0.97

02:41:50.000 Is the monkey in the office yet?

02:41:55.000 I want to see this thing up close.

02:41:57.000 Hey, Aaron, is the monkey here yet?

02:42:01.000 What on earth is that?

02:42:02.000 Oh, that's them drilling in the walls, putting in more surveillance equipment here.

02:42:07.000 Alright, I said I'd go to calls.

02:42:10.000 Let's just jam in a bunch here.

02:42:11.000 Who's up next?

02:42:14.000 Robert and Callie, you're on the air.

02:42:15.000 Go ahead.

02:42:17.000 Hey Alex, good to talk to you.

02:42:18.000 Good to talk to you, sir.

02:42:19.000 Alright, I've been studying the G-10 and I have a lot of questions about Bilderberg, but I was wondering how close the Bilderberg and G-10 operate, and then also With the corporations, you're just talking about controlling the media and all that.

02:42:34.000 Can they reach right through the G10 and hit that?

02:42:37.000 Or are they more for trade and stuff?

02:42:41.000 Do you know about that?

02:42:42.000 Now, to show my ignorance, just a month ago it was still the G8.

02:42:45.000 Is it the G10 now?

02:42:47.000 Well, they have the G7, G8, G10.

02:42:51.000 The G10, I think that's interesting because Bob, the guy before, he said that Switzerland, they've got that strong gold-backed economy.

02:43:00.000 Um, they are the latest members, so they're actually 11 members of the G10.

02:43:04.000 Okay, so I guess, well, it's not a G7, G8, it's, they keep expanding the bodies, what it is, it's not separate deals.

02:43:10.000 Okay, let me just stop you, let me just stop you, so now it's D11, whatever.

02:43:13.000 Yes, I know the heads of NATO, which is interlocked with the G8, G10 now you say.

02:43:19.000 I know that it's all, look, if you look at the chairman of the CFR, and the chairman of the Bilderberg, and the chairman of NATO, and the chairman of the, you know, it's literally less than a hundred people, and they all chair these different management groups that are over different divisions of it.

02:43:33.000 And it's literally like corporate meetings, or corporate boardrooms, and they're all interlocked.

02:43:38.000 And then the Fortune 100 are all interlocked, and they're interlocked with the Fortune 1000.

02:43:43.000 And then they're in a lot with the Fortune 5000.

02:43:45.000 And so, they got pie charts and maps and universities have done big studies on it.

02:43:50.000 It's not hidden.

02:43:51.000 They just know the general public doesn't read these scholarly white papers.

02:43:54.000 And, you know, I'm somewhat of an expert on the whole global structure, but, I mean, it's there.

02:44:00.000 They're operating.

02:44:01.000 And, yeah, it's all the same deal.

02:44:02.000 I appreciate your call.

02:44:03.000 Let's go ahead now and take another call.

02:44:10.000 Stewart and Mass, you're on the air.

02:44:12.000 Go ahead.

02:44:13.000 Hello?

02:44:14.000 Yes, go ahead, sir.

02:44:15.000 Yeah, some people kind of stole my thunder there, but oh well.

02:44:18.000 I just want to say, this is why Ron Paul raised $20 million.

02:44:23.000 I mean, if you're going to fight evil, you might as well go for broke.

02:44:27.000 You should spend some of that money and grease some palms or do whatever you've got to do to blow all this up in New Hampshire, because why keep spending money on campaigning if they're just going to keep stealing your elections?

02:44:40.000 Yeah, I mean, they're just acting that they won't stage it in South Carolina.

02:44:43.000 I appreciate your call.

02:44:44.000 I appreciate it, yeah.

02:44:45.000 I mean, they're acting like South Carolina, out of their own press, out of their own Charlotte's paper, they're saying that the worst systems in the country are in South Carolina.

02:44:56.000 I mean, decertified everywhere else, total scams.

02:45:00.000 With spooks running that, I mean, it's just incredible.

02:45:04.000 And you politically incorrect nutcases out there, next time I say spooks, don't send me an email like you do.

02:45:11.000 It's because you've attached every word in the English language to something racist. 0.62

02:45:13.000 That's the name of government secret operatives, is spooks. 0.99

02:45:18.000 You people make me sick.

02:45:21.000 All you do is fall back on some idea to be flummoxed racially, you know, with every, like when I talk about a comprehensive annual financial report, you email me saying that's a racist term. 1.00

02:45:34.000 It's just you're idiots. 1.00

02:45:37.000 You've been trained how to not be able to take an action. 1.00

02:45:40.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Eric in Pennsylvania.

02:45:45.000 Go ahead, Eric.

02:45:46.000 Eric dropped.

02:45:47.000 Who's up next?

02:45:49.000 Cal in San Francisco.

02:45:51.000 You're on the air.

02:45:51.000 Hey, Alex.

02:45:52.000 Hi.

02:45:53.000 Not to sound like a broken record, but if Ron Paul does not challenge us, this election is over.

02:45:58.000 The fundraising will shrivel because all the hope will die.

02:46:02.000 People need to write to Ron Paul.

02:46:04.000 Just straight up.

02:46:05.000 He needs to.

02:46:06.000 He needs to represent the people that are supporting him.

02:46:09.000 Well, I mean, he's having to vet and check, and the campaign's exhausted.

02:46:13.000 All I'm saying is he needs to know how deeply important this is to the people that gave him all the money.

02:46:18.000 And if you believe it, you should write him.

02:46:20.000 If you don't, don't.

02:46:21.000 That's all.

02:46:22.000 No, I mean, I agree with you, sir.

02:46:23.000 God bless you.

02:46:24.000 No, people need to call the campaign and say, listen, They've not been counting your votes in some of these counties.

02:46:30.000 The polls don't match. 0.99

02:46:31.000 You've got a crook running it. 0.97

02:46:33.000 You need to do something about this. 0.98

02:46:36.000 You need to make a statement.

02:46:37.000 You need to at least file a complaint about it.

02:46:42.000 The electoral process is owed this.

02:46:46.000 Bottom line.

02:46:47.000 I agree with you.

02:46:48.000 Who's up next?

02:46:51.000 Vinny in New York.

02:46:52.000 You're on the air.

02:46:53.000 Go ahead.

02:46:53.000 Hi, Alex.

02:46:55.000 Thank you for taking my call.

02:46:57.000 I just want to say, I just wrote Kent Snyder expressing my dismay over the situation.

02:47:03.000 I think that the recount should be taken, not because he's going to get any votes back, because I doubt he will, but Just to the point of the fact to expose the fraud.

02:47:13.000 Yeah, the mainstream media, let me stop you, I agree.

02:47:15.000 Here's the strategy.

02:47:17.000 The mainstream media is ignoring this right now.

02:47:19.000 They're hoping it just blows over and goes away.

02:47:22.000 It's one of the biggest stories on the web.

02:47:23.000 It's confirmed.

02:47:24.000 Local papers have had to admit it quietly.

02:47:27.000 But if Ron Paul comes out and contests it, it will then give him huge attention, it will expose the fraud, and then that will bring hope back in the fight here.

02:47:35.000 If they don't, they've got a problem.

02:47:38.000 We haven't heard from the campaign yet what they're going to do.

02:47:40.000 Finish up.

02:47:42.000 Yeah, actually, in standing at the end of my email, I said, Aaron Russo and the group, the AFTF group, didn't put their butt on the line for them to bow.

02:47:51.000 And I said, now's not the time.

02:47:53.000 You've got to take a stand now.

02:47:54.000 There's no time for playing games anymore.

02:47:58.000 The bottom line is just exactly what I agree with you, and some people say, oh well, it's a strategy.

02:48:02.000 I say no, the strategy is not to compromise, because when you compromise, now you're no longer on the side of truth, and God ain't gonna come to your aid.

02:48:10.000 I agree with you, and we don't know Ron Paul's compromising yet.

02:48:14.000 We don't know that yet, but it doesn't look good.

02:48:17.000 Okay, now I know that they're exhausted after New Hampshire, trying to rest on the ropes a few days.

02:48:23.000 There isn't time for that in this fight! 0.96

02:48:25.000 Believe me, don't you think I want to rest?

02:48:27.000 There's no time.

02:48:28.000 There'll be time enough when we're dead, six feet under, pushing daisies up for a trillion years.

02:48:33.000 You're only alive one time.

02:48:34.000 Take the bull by the horns. 0.90

02:48:37.000 Full speed ahead.

02:48:38.000 Forget the maneuvers.

02:48:39.000 Go straight at them, ladies and gentlemen.

02:48:41.000 We'll be right back.

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02:48:56.000 Would their objective be world domination?

02:49:00.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

02:49:04.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.93

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02:51:40.000 Everybody knows that Diebold steals it.

02:51:53.000 Everybody knows that the dice are loaded.

02:51:57.000 Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.

02:52:03.000 Everybody knows the war is over.

02:52:07.000 Everybody knows the good guys lost.

02:52:11.000 I'm going to jam in some final phone calls here at the end.

02:52:15.000 It's the latest info out there.

02:52:17.000 Anywhere you're going to find is the next hour of rebroadcast.

02:52:21.000 How it goes.

02:52:23.000 Everybody knows.

02:52:27.000 I'm going to jam in some final phone calls here at the end.

02:52:29.000 Everybody knows.

02:52:31.000 It's the latest info out there anywhere you're going to find.

02:52:34.000 It's the next hour of rebroadcast.

02:52:36.000 You have to go to Infowars.com and click on what says the main stream.

02:52:40.000 Or you can listen to our secondary stream there.

02:52:43.000 And the show will restart with Bev Harris and the latest analysis still from PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.net, Diebold Voting Machine Contractor is a convicted narcotics dealer, and Rosalind Peterson about the chemtrails will be on Monday.

02:53:02.000 I apologize for canceling her twice since this election stuff keeps blowing up.

02:53:06.000 More towns coming in that got zero per poll that actually had votes.

02:53:09.000 This is crazy.

02:53:10.000 Tell everybody you know to tune in throughout the day on the web at Infowars.com, the streams there.

02:53:16.000 Friends or family, you want them to understand what's happened to the economy, how they're stealing it from Ron Paul and Barack Obama.

02:53:22.000 Have them just tune in right there at those streams or on your local AM or FM when they rebroadcast the show.

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02:53:35.000 Robert and Callie, then William and Betty, that's all we've got time for.

02:53:38.000 Robert, hit us!

02:53:39.000 Okay, a gentleman just sent me a link to a YouTube video where a man has videotaped Boston.com from the Boston Globe, showing that the numbers were reversed for Ron Paul and McCain, but still, if you look at it, it shows that Ron Paul won by a landslide, but if you go to the bottom of the page, it shows that he got the 17,000 votes.

02:54:01.000 What is the name of the video?

02:54:02.000 We'll post it right now.

02:54:04.000 The name of the video is...

02:54:08.000 It is called, Is This Fraud?

02:54:10.000 And I got the link to it.

02:54:13.000 Send it to Aaron at InfoWars.com and it'll be posted in the next 10 minutes at JonesReport.com.

02:54:20.000 Okay, Is This Fraud?

02:54:21.000 You can type it into YouTube, click Date Added, and you'll find it.

02:54:21.000 YouTube.

02:54:25.000 Anything else, sir?

02:54:26.000 There is also a thing from Zoo America, I think it's called, and it shows that there's Reporting for the 100% that he won by at least 10 to 15 points.

02:54:38.000 Well, here's why I need all you, the listeners, at the War Room, where we all combine forces, all put our brains together.

02:54:44.000 Everything's posted there.

02:54:45.000 RonPaulWarRoom.com.

02:54:47.000 Go into the earlier post, folks, as it keeps rolling through so fast.

02:54:50.000 The most important post that we find, we kind of post at the top of the sticky.

02:54:54.000 That's what it's called.

02:54:55.000 And RonPaulWarRoom.com.

02:54:57.000 Thank you, sir.

02:54:58.000 Everybody, nexus point there.

02:54:59.000 Attack, attack, attack, attack.

02:55:01.000 We're going to push this into the open that it was fraud there.

02:55:04.000 And if Ron Paul would speak out about it, just say something about it, that he's concerned that they're looking at it.

02:55:10.000 Then it would explode into the news.

02:55:12.000 The campaign needs to do that, and I don't want to have to call up and lobby them.

02:55:16.000 Ugh, I'm sick of it.

02:55:18.000 I literally do everything.

02:55:19.000 I'm not whining about it, I'm just exhausted.

02:55:21.000 William in Florida, you're in the middle of the attack battle group info war.

02:55:25.000 Go ahead.

02:55:26.000 Yes I am, sir, and I am a battering ram in this.

02:55:30.000 I don't see why the New World Order is afraid of you, Alex, because I am 10,000 times worse than you.

02:55:35.000 And in trouble.

02:55:35.000 Good!

02:55:37.000 I have severe Crohn's disease.

02:55:39.000 I know it's traced to the measles vaccine.

02:55:42.000 And I am disabled because of this.

02:55:45.000 But I am still in the fight.

02:55:47.000 I've got blogs coming.

02:55:48.000 I've got podcasts coming.

02:55:50.000 And I am making a major film.

02:55:52.000 I may have major backing.

02:55:53.000 Good.

02:55:53.000 Fire out the website or something.

02:55:56.000 It's not yet.

02:55:57.000 We're out of time, William.

02:55:58.000 Call me back tomorrow.

02:55:59.000 We're out of time.

02:56:00.000 Betty and Ohio, take us out before retransmission launches. 0.97

02:56:03.000 Go! 0.95

02:56:04.000 Go! 0.95

02:56:05.000 I called Fox News and they said they don't have their story on about New Hampshire tonight at 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.

02:56:12.000 And their number is 212-301-3000.

02:56:16.000 I'm sure they'll spin at Enemies of America.

02:56:18.000 God bless you, Betty. 0.90

02:56:19.000 Everybody, ram this story out.

02:56:21.000 Get it all at PrisonPlanet.com.

02:56:23.000 Great transmission starts now!

02:56:26.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - January 10, 2008

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