Alex Jones Show - 20080118_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:11.000 You want answers?

00:00:13.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 We have a big broadcast lined up for you today.

00:00:43.000 He hasn't been on with us in over a month.

00:00:45.000 Dr. Jerome Corsi will be joining us in the third hour.

00:00:49.000 Discuss how the mainstream media continues to claim that there's no such thing as a NAU, Napa Superhighway, Trans-Texas Corridor.

00:01:01.000 Doesn't matter, they're building it, announcing it, the federal documents show they've signed on to the agreements.

00:01:06.000 Business owners from Texas to California are being sent, we even have just a few employees, letters by their workforce commissions, their departments of labor, from the feds, through the states, telling them you've got to sign on to the North American ID system, replacing the U.S.

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00:01:25.000 It's all happening, but we can continue to see this massive denial, so that's coming up.

00:01:31.000 In the third hour.

00:01:33.000 We get him on about once a year or so when he has a new book out.

00:01:37.000 We're going to be talking to Patrick J. Buchanan today.

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00:01:48.000 We're also going to get his take on the Ron Paul revolution.

00:01:52.000 So, more big guests coming up on the broadcast for you today.

00:01:58.000 Speaking of the North American Union, Wall Street Journal today, Senate approval of Peru pact aids Bush's free trade agenda.

00:02:06.000 When you hear free trade, that means the American Union expanding out of the North American Union, as Vicente Fox has said it is meant to do, as the Council on Foreign Relations has said it was meant to do.

00:02:18.000 You know, last week in Florida, even the mainstream news reported St.

00:02:23.000 Petersburg newspaper and others that Romney people were allowed to vote as many times as they wanted.

00:02:28.000 No one else was allowed to.

00:02:30.000 Five-year-olds voted.

00:02:31.000 Some people voted on video.

00:02:32.000 They didn't care.

00:02:34.000 Fifteen times apiece, one person did, for Romney.

00:02:38.000 And so Ron Paul was winning two to one, but then the Romney people showed up on buses with unlimited tickets and were able to do that.

00:02:46.000 Then he, Ron Paul won in Virginia because they had a fair poll.

00:02:52.000 Well, now in San Francisco, the GOP has cancelled the straw poll, because as scores of Ron Paul supporters showed up, and there really wasn't many other people showing up, the GOP sponsors just cancelled it.

00:03:10.000 I mean, look at all this corruption.

00:03:12.000 Oh, no, the government and different parties, they would never steal elections.

00:03:20.000 Never cheat!

00:03:22.000 They would never!

00:03:23.000 Let's just trust these black boxes with no record of how you voted, with the different engineers from the major companies going public and saying they were hired to engage in fraud, and the thousands of cases where they've been caught engaged in fraud, and their own internal memos, and their own directors publicly saying, I'm here to deliver the votes to this person or that person.

00:03:42.000 I mean, it's just wall to wall.

00:03:46.000 Corruption and fake FEMA newscasts, and fake INS slash ICE Homeland Security press conferences, and fake news purchases in the tens of billions.

00:03:58.000 I mean, just a rain of propaganda spew.

00:04:03.000 But it's easily discernible from the real and accurate news that's out there.

00:04:06.000 Even a lot of mainstream news is accurate.

00:04:07.000 If you know how to check the basis, the background, integrate it with other alternative reports.

00:04:13.000 But the big nightly reports, the big news you hear, the big officialdom, you know, the front page type stuff is generally government paid for propaganda or spin.

00:04:25.000 I should do a whole show sometime on how to identify it, how to track it down, how to test it.

00:04:33.000 But it's just really a knowledge you gain, too.

00:04:35.000 And even when you're an expert in this, you occasionally get hoodwinked.

00:04:39.000 But it's good to just know this stuff is going on.

00:04:43.000 I've got a bunch of other news.

00:04:44.000 Is the ex-Canadian Prime Minister the next 9-11 truther?

00:04:48.000 We'll talk about that as well and more on the former Italian President coming out and saying 9-11 is a big fat inside job.

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00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:12.000 Yesterday, thanks to a listener tip, we We picked up on one of the major Italian newspapers, well actually several of them, that the former president had gone public and said that 9-11 was an inside job.

00:08:42.000 And then I had my wife look at it, whose dad worked for the Agriculture Department, so she lived in France, she lived in Spain, she also lived in Italy, so she speaks good Italian specifically.

00:08:52.000 Sad issue.

00:08:53.000 The point is, Uh, that, um, she went and read it and said, yeah, he indeed says that.

00:09:01.000 And, uh, then, um, they posted it on a bunch of message boards, a bunch of news sites picked it up.

00:09:06.000 Um, a lot of the people are saying this is fake.

00:09:08.000 It isn't real.

00:09:09.000 Babelfish is wrong because they were using Babelfish to decipher it.

00:09:14.000 And it did indeed in Babelfish say that he was saying that it was an inside job.

00:09:19.000 And now a bunch of other big sites have had people translate it into the exact same translation we got.

00:09:27.000 He did say it, and that's just the way it is.

00:09:31.000 People are in continual denial about any serious news.

00:09:37.000 I remember when we first got the PBS video of Larry Silverstein saying that They gave the order to pull it and watch the building come down.

00:09:47.000 The next clip in the film is them destroying the other buildings months later and going, getting ready to pull building six, and then they blow it up.

00:09:55.000 And pull is a demolition term.

00:09:58.000 There have been news articles done where engineers have called, you know, 30, 40 companies and emailed them and gotten them to respond.

00:10:06.000 What does pull it mean?

00:10:07.000 And that means controlled demolition.

00:10:09.000 I mean, folks are going to deny this.

00:10:12.000 Folks are going to deny this.

00:10:14.000 The White House is now saying they never said Iraq had WMDs.

00:10:18.000 Doesn't matter how many video clips, how many audio clips, how many presidential addresses, how many states of the unions, how many press conferences by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, they're just saying they never said it!

00:10:31.000 Remember, Karl Rove said that we control reality, i.e.

00:10:34.000 the White House.

00:10:35.000 We control the future.

00:10:37.000 We are the history's actors.

00:10:42.000 And everyone else is just spectators.

00:10:46.000 Well, we don't have to be spectators anymore.

00:10:48.000 We don't have to go along with this.

00:10:50.000 When they say the amnesty bill isn't an amnesty bill, but it's secret, just trust us, and then we get a copy of the bill, and it's the biggest amnesty in U.S.

00:10:58.000 history, they've now been discredited again.

00:11:01.000 When they come out and say there's no longer mercury in vaccines, and then Bush vetoes a bill trying to legally block mercury in vaccines, they're discredited again.

00:11:12.000 When they say there's no NAFTA superhighway structure being built, when it's on the Federal Transportation Department's own websites and announcements for five years running, the Trans-Texas Corridor for at least five, six years has been announced in Texas, thousands of places.

00:11:25.000 I mean, do you believe CNN gets up there and just says, it doesn't exist, Ron Paul's delusional and just makes things up and is insane?

00:11:36.000 So I really welcome the wholesale denial by the establishment, because it isn't working anymore. 0.99

00:11:44.000 People are finding out that you're a pack of liars.

00:11:47.000 But again, ex-Italian president, intel agencies know 9-11, an inside job, man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA Mossad. 0.54

00:12:01.000 You can see our translation there on the site, and you can then go to Daily Cross and the Huffington Post, everywhere else they have the same thing.

00:12:11.000 But again, my wife lived in Italy for six years.

00:12:14.000 She speaks fluent Italian.

00:12:15.000 And actually, Paul's first translation of it, using translation programs, was not strong enough.

00:12:25.000 He fingered Israel even stronger, ladies and gentlemen, than we had first said. 0.83

00:12:33.000 We just translated it to say that all the intelligence agencies know that U.S.

00:12:38.000 intelligence and the Mossad carried out the attacks to launch wars in the Middle East.

00:12:44.000 He actually goes on to say the U.S., the Mossad, for the Zionists.

00:12:53.000 So it's very volatile, very incendiary.

00:12:58.000 We're just reporting on what this highly respected seven-year, that's a long time for an Italian politics, former president and also former intelligence chief is saying.

00:13:09.000 So there was a double statement on Israel, not a single.

00:13:13.000 So it was worse than what we said.

00:13:15.000 Excuse me, we always at first don't get it as bad as it actually is.

00:13:20.000 Excuse us for trying to decipher it and do that for everybody.

00:13:26.000 Here is the translation, word for word, from Italian into English, okay?

00:13:32.000 By my wife.

00:13:32.000 And then when others did it, it was exactly when other Italian websites responded, and when it was translated, word for word, exactly as we said.

00:13:41.000 Okay?

00:13:42.000 Bin Laden supposedly confessed to the Al-Qaeda September attack.

00:13:48.000 To the two towers in New York, claiming to be the author of the attack of 9-11.

00:13:53.000 While all the intelligence services of America and Europe know well that the disastrous attack had been planned and realized from the CIA, American, and the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world, in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries, and in order to induce the Western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan. 0.82

00:14:19.000 Now, that is the exact translation out of Italian.

00:14:26.000 But the government is not even officially denying this.

00:14:30.000 They're having their moles and disinfo people still run around from Digg to you name it, saying he didn't say that.

00:14:39.000 Now, he's gone public before about the U.S.

00:14:42.000 government in conjunction with the Italian government staging terror attacks in Operation Gladiobe.

00:14:49.000 Across Europe and Italy in the 1960s, 70s, and culminating in the Bologna bombing in 1980.

00:14:56.000 And an official Italian parliamentary inquiry in 2000 officially found that intelligence agencies of the West staged the terror attacks.

00:15:08.000 Just as he said in 1992.

00:15:10.000 Okay, he's the guy that broke that.

00:15:16.000 He'd been the intelligence chief before that, I think so.

00:15:19.000 come into power right when, as intelligence chief, right when the Bologna situation happened.

00:15:24.000 He internally, from the experts we've had on, all the books have been written, the news articles we've covered, said that's enough, but then he did say, well, I'm guilty too because I didn't expose this at first.

00:15:35.000 You know, he put an end to it, but he certainly, people said, well, why would he do that because Some people have a soul, ladies and gentlemen, and it was just too much to watch all those dead children and women at Bologna.

00:15:50.000 There was 144 killed at that event.

00:15:53.000 It's all covered in TerrorStorm, a history of government-sponsored terror.

00:16:00.000 Before we go to break, I want to play this three-minute clip from The news, young Pakistanis, Bin Laden is a CIA creation, Good Morning America gets more than it bargained for in a feature on young people in Pakistan.

00:16:15.000 And then the person that edited this video together, you'll hear the audio.

00:16:20.000 Put it together with documents and statements and Bush making comments that just back up what we already knew, that it literally is just a completely staged event.

00:16:29.000 He's a real person, a real asset of the government.

00:16:31.000 Tim Osman, codename in the CIA, but used as the kind of fictitious boogeyman.

00:16:37.000 Here it is.

00:16:38.000 And a surprising assessment that shows the distance between our political cultures.

00:16:42.000 When I asked about Osama bin Laden's latest audio tape, one of them answered with a question of her own.

00:16:47.000 Who is Osama bin Laden?

00:16:50.000 Who?

00:16:51.000 He's just a character created by America.

00:16:55.000 Actually, 98% of Pakistan would probably follow along the same line.

00:16:59.000 They believe that Osama is basically a CIA agent who is working undercover to put a bad image of Islam.

00:17:06.000 Really?

00:17:07.000 So that there is no Osama bin Laden?

00:17:10.000 A lot of them find it difficult to believe that such Muslims could actually exist.

00:17:13.000 We could all drive an hour from where we are right now and find many, many people Who stand by what Osama Bin Laden says in the spirit of Islam?

00:17:23.000 To be quite honest, that's a very marginalized section of Pakistani society.

00:17:26.000 Islamic extremism that you find here did not really exist in Pakistan pre 9-11.

00:17:34.000 Really?

00:17:35.000 So that there is no Osama Bin Laden?

00:17:44.000 In an exclusive interview with Newsweek, the CIA field commander in Tora Bora during the invasion, Gary Bernson, broke his silence.

00:17:53.000 He explained that his intelligence operatives had tracked Bin Laden to Tora Bora.

00:17:57.000 Mr. Bernson feels so strongly about getting this story out Uh, in getting his book published, that he actually resigned two years short of retirement, uh, from the CIA in order to publish his book.

00:18:09.000 At the time of this interview, he was required to speak to his attorney until the CIA cleared his book for publication.

00:18:18.000 At various points in time, they did have, to my understanding, definitive intelligence as to his general location within Tora Bora.

00:18:26.000 I can't go into detail as to the actual sources of the intelligence and the collection methods because those remain classified.

00:18:35.000 However, we had Osama Bin Laden essentially cornered in Tora Bora and for whatever reasons we did not do what was necessary in order to ensure that he did not escape.

00:18:48.000 Of course we're after Saddam Hussein, I mean Bin Laden. 0.98

00:18:52.000 He's isolated.

00:18:56.000 Created by America.

00:18:57.000 According to investigative reporter Seymour Hirsch, the Bush administration with Saudi Arabia is secretly funding radical Sunni groups, some with ties to Al-Qaeda, to counter Shia groups backed by Iran.

00:19:09.000 A lot of them find it difficult to believe that such Muslims would actually exist.

00:19:13.000 There is also no evidence that bin Laden used the term Al-Qaeda to refer to the name of a group until after September the 11th, when he realized that this was the term the Americans had given him.

00:19:27.000 And, uh, by the way, it's important to add to this whole discussion the fact that... Well, I'll cover it when I get time on the other side.

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00:24:52.000 If you give this man a ride, sweet ma'am. 1.00

00:24:55.000 Pretty much everybody in the population knows that Bin Laden was one of the main sons of one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia, the Bin Ladens, who go back over 80 years to being members of British intelligence, back from the days when the British came in and took over Saudi Arabia and created the country.

00:25:21.000 And they would go out and just arm Bedouin tribes, and have them go in and take over different cities and different sectors, and then set up their own imperial system there. 0.89

00:25:32.000 And the Bin Ladens, this is mainline history, have been servants of British intel ever since. 0.99

00:25:36.000 The British set up what is Iraq today, Kuwait.

00:25:40.000 They drew all the lines of what is the Middle East today. 0.55

00:25:44.000 And then they had a public strategy in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s to radicalize Muslims because the Middle East and Central Asia was westernizing. 0.52

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00:25:59.000 Women weren't, except in very rural areas, wearing the hoods over their heads. 0.99

00:26:05.000 And that couldn't be allowed.

00:26:07.000 Their presidents had been trained in the U.S.

00:26:09.000 and France and England.

00:26:12.000 And it couldn't be put up with.

00:26:13.000 So just as they had sent in the ragtag Stone Age folks out in the desert to go and take over the cities, they went into Iran, they went into Iraq, they went into a whole score of nations, and they went and hired the most radical Muslims there were. 0.91

00:26:35.000 This is all public.

00:26:37.000 And gave them the weapons to go in and undermine and destroy those countries and take them over. 0.59

00:26:43.000 And it's the same thing today.

00:26:45.000 And before 1979, Afghanistan was developing.

00:26:51.000 Afghanistan was westernizing, though it was one of the more primitive countries.

00:26:56.000 Massive Wahhabist funding had been brought in already by Saudi Arabia, a particular radical sect of the folks that are on the opposite side of the fence from the Shiites, the Sunnis.

00:27:12.000 And so they came into the nation and they radicalized them.

00:27:15.000 Now it's been declassified.

00:27:16.000 We already knew this.

00:27:18.000 In 79, the U.S.

00:27:18.000 under Carter started a covert campaign commanded by Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor, to run attacks on the Russians in the nations north, several nations north of Afghanistan.

00:27:36.000 When the Russians fought back and came into the country and occupied it, it was then the, quote, Holy War.

00:27:42.000 The Jihad was... I'm not defending the Russians either. 0.89

00:27:46.000 This is geopolitical strategy.

00:27:48.000 They were sent in, and after a, what, seven-plus year war, the Russians were driven from the country, thanks to CIA advisors, Stinger missiles, and other weapons platforms, knocking out their different rotary ...type of aircraft there, helicopters.

00:28:08.000 And others, small and light attack aircraft.

00:28:12.000 So, that's what happened.

00:28:16.000 And, then Pakistan, there's a coup in 99 that the U.S.

00:28:21.000 funds.

00:28:22.000 Our own government under Clinton and Bush helped give the nukes to them.

00:28:26.000 Then Perez Musharraf goes in and starts funding the radical Muslim groups.

00:28:30.000 Pakistani intelligence literally runs the Taliban in the nation.

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00:28:36.000 Then suddenly all these people from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and other nations, thousands of them come into the U.S.

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00:28:53.000 That gets in the State Department computers.

00:28:55.000 When the State Department tries to block them going in and out of the U.S., they're told, no, these are CIA officers.

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00:29:03.000 I mean, that's all Toronto Star, Associated Press, Newsweek, Pensacola News Journal, the San Jose Mercury News.

00:29:13.000 I mean, it's in my films.

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00:29:18.000 This stuff all comes out and then gets clamped down.

00:29:22.000 And then you talk about the 5,000 Iraqis brought in by Bush, 41, and then Clinton.

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00:40:40.000 Debbie, thanks for coming on with us.

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00:40:59.000 Okay, let's go ahead now and go to some of your calls.

00:41:01.000 Let's have open phones, and then I'm going to get into Senate approval of a pact Thank you so much, Alex.

00:41:12.000 This is out of the Wall Street Journal.

00:41:13.000 Soon approval of Peru Pact, AIDS-Bush free trade agenda. 0.80

00:41:18.000 But right now, let's go ahead and go to Frank in New Jersey.

00:41:20.000 Frank, you're on the air.

00:41:21.000 Thank you so much, Alex.

00:41:24.000 In regards to this Anglo-American establishment thing that's been going on, I guess you're quite aware of the Royal International Affairs Association.

00:41:36.000 The Royal Institute of International Affairs.

00:41:39.000 Yeah, well, they've been working in Khrushchev since their inception. 0.84

00:41:43.000 But here's a quote from Arnold Toynbee that was quoted back in 31.

00:41:47.000 The original source is the trend for international affairs since the war, meaning World War I.

00:41:55.000 Arnold Turnby, it said, we are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world.

00:42:08.000 All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands.

00:42:12.000 These people have no compulsion about lying.

00:42:15.000 If it's a means to the end, they will do it.

00:42:18.000 It's quite obvious what's been going on.

00:42:20.000 Arnold Turnby has been affiliated with Cecil Rhodes and his organization.

00:42:25.000 You might try John 844, they're the father of the devil. 1.00

00:42:32.000 They're liars from the beginning, murderers. 0.97

00:42:34.000 So that would be the biblical reference. 0.99

00:42:36.000 Well, here's the deal.

00:42:37.000 I mean, you read that quote, and I've seen that quote, and we actually had the publication was originally made in, you know, decades and decades ago.

00:42:44.000 I mean, Cecil Rhodes wrote best-selling books about how they were going to set up a global British empire and have fronts that did it.

00:42:50.000 And this has now happened today, and the CFR has got hundreds of quotes out where they say they're going to lie to the public.

00:42:57.000 I mean, this is what they do.

00:42:58.000 Well, it's just even with someone that has such a stellar view with this Winston Churchill.

00:43:06.000 All his adult career, he was a Mason and a Druid.

00:43:11.000 He precipitated the sinking of the Lusitania.

00:43:15.000 He was involved with 215,000 British troops being killed in World War I at Galapagos.

00:43:25.000 My source is the Brotherhood of Darkness book, of course, and also Dennis Cuddy.

00:43:31.000 Uh, newswithfuse.com is one of the best researchers out there.

00:43:34.000 I sure wish she'd get Dennis on sometime.

00:43:36.000 Yeah, we've had Dennis on about ten times.

00:43:38.000 Uh, I do know that, uh, if it wasn't for you guys getting the information out, uh, we just, uh, just another thing, in two days we're going to be celebrating the World War, uh, what is it, Pearl Harbor?

00:43:48.000 Yeah.

00:43:49.000 Uh, well, I guess you know about with, uh, uh, Tyler Tyler Kent, and he's trying to feed information to the Senate and the Congress back before World War II about what was the secret decoded messages that he was deciphering for Franklin Roosevelt and Churchill.

00:44:07.000 He was arrested in England.

00:44:11.000 That source is... There's another good source out there.

00:44:13.000 Sir, it's well known about the Pearl Harbor.

00:44:15.000 Thank you for the call, Frank.

00:44:16.000 Interesting points there.

00:44:18.000 John in California.

00:44:20.000 Go ahead.

00:44:20.000 You're on the air.

00:44:22.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

00:44:23.000 Hey, so last night we were at that straw poll in San Francisco.

00:44:23.000 Good.

00:44:28.000 Did you hear about it?

00:44:29.000 Yes, I covered it right at the start of the show.

00:44:31.000 San Francisco GOP cancelled straw poll after Ron Paul supporters pour in from Lou Rockwell.

00:44:38.000 Tell us about it.

00:44:39.000 I uploaded, I actually have the video of it.

00:44:42.000 You know, the spirit of this Ron Paul campaign is just I met a guy on the phone last night who spent the night adjusting the light levels and then compressing the video so that we could all see it.

00:44:56.000 It's on YouTube right now.

00:44:58.000 If you just search for San Francisco Straw Poll, DEC4, December 4, you should be able to find it.

00:45:06.000 And to add to the surrealism of the event, the woman who was running it was wearing a Santa hat throughout the whole time and proceeded to With a number of incomprehensible reasons as to why they couldn't conduct the straw poll. 0.67

00:45:22.000 Mainly so that we wouldn't offend the other guests who were going to lose.

00:45:28.000 Well, that's political correctness.

00:45:29.000 Oh, we have to ban your speech. 0.94

00:45:31.000 In fact, I have a mainstream article where a Santa was fired from a store because he was going, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 0.99

00:45:38.000 People thought he was calling women whores. 0.99

00:45:40.000 And, I mean, this is just political correctness. 0.97

00:45:41.000 No free speech.

00:45:43.000 Just cops running around in black uniforms everywhere, tasering everyone.

00:45:46.000 I find it ironic that here we are, the Republican Party has been trying to export democracy, and we can't even run a straw poll.

00:45:52.000 They're complete and total New World Order shills, the lot of them. 0.97

00:45:56.000 I mean, this country is run by a pack of, an army of parasites, and they're not going to let us rest control without a fight. 0.96

00:46:05.000 Alex, the interesting thing about it is that the woman, when you see this woman talking, I mean, she clearly is not a mover and shaker in the Republican Party. 0.96

00:46:11.000 I mean, she's been told to do this.

00:46:13.000 And when you combine that with the irregularities of the Mitt Romney straw poll... So she openly says, and I know the Lou Rockwell reports this, but she openly says, well, since Ron Paul's gonna win, that'll hurt other people's feelings.

00:46:25.000 We're just not gonna... That's the whole point of a straw poll, to see who wins.

00:46:28.000 Well, you are a lot more comprehensible than she was just now.

00:46:30.000 And look, the video speaks for itself.

00:46:33.000 Go to YouTube and check it out.

00:46:35.000 I have an account on there, it's called I'm a Ron Paul Republican.

00:46:38.000 Try searching it that way.

00:46:40.000 But I mean, when I get off there, I can talk to one of you guys.

00:46:44.000 When I get to my stop, I'll shoot you a link as soon as I can.

00:46:48.000 Are you cell phone calling me on Skype?

00:46:52.000 No.

00:46:53.000 No, I'm cell phone calling you, but no, I'm actually using an iPhone.

00:46:58.000 No, it's just bad audio.

00:47:00.000 Thank you for the call, sir.

00:47:01.000 Yeah.

00:47:02.000 Send us the info.

00:47:03.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jim in Florida.

00:47:05.000 Jim, you're on the air.

00:47:06.000 Hey, Alex.

00:47:07.000 Hi.

00:47:10.000 On Friday, you were talking about how hard it is to explain to people about McVeigh's role in Oklahoma City because they don't believe in mind control.

00:47:17.000 Just remind them of what a group of rank amateurs was able to do to Patricia Hurst in a very short time.

00:47:23.000 That's right.

00:47:23.000 They had her joining the Black Panther Party.

00:47:27.000 No, no, it was the Sudanese Liberation Army.

00:47:30.000 They had her joining that and totally brainwashed in a matter of weeks. 0.99

00:47:34.000 And then, of course, look at Jim Jones.

00:47:36.000 Look at all these people.

00:47:37.000 Yeah, but anybody who is, you know, in their 40s by now remembers the Patricia Hearst thing.

00:47:43.000 We were like, hello, you used to own that bank robbery, you know?

00:47:47.000 But a lot of people now are aware of the truth of 9-11.

00:47:51.000 I think a lot of people now would be prepared to start listening to Oklahoma City Truth.

00:47:58.000 Well, I mean, it's come out in mainstream papers and in depositions that they've got from Nichols that McVeigh said he worked for the U.S.

00:48:05.000 government.

00:48:06.000 We already knew that.

00:48:08.000 We already knew, and it's come out now in documents via lawsuits, that the Southern Poverty Law Center was running the Elohim City training compound.

00:48:17.000 I mean, it never ends.

00:48:18.000 The FBI and the First World Trade Center started the group, cooked the bomb, trained the drivers, told them where to park it, gave them the detonators.

00:48:25.000 Their own informants said, I thought this was a sting.

00:48:27.000 I'm not going to be involved in the bombing.

00:48:28.000 And they said, stand down.

00:48:29.000 The bombing goes forward.

00:48:31.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 You know, the election's in 11 months, and I don't think Hillary Clinton wants a populist who's well-informed on Oklahoma City truth at that time.

00:48:40.000 What do you think?

00:48:42.000 No, and we need to discredit her as well. 0.99

00:48:45.000 We need to discredit both the political parties.

00:48:48.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

00:48:49.000 I just was wondering if you guys could throw up a one-page flyer of Oklahoma City Truth for dummies or something like that, you know?

00:48:57.000 Yeah, I mean, how about you guys write it up, and if it's accurate, I'll post it.

00:49:02.000 Okay, well, I'm sure there's other people out there.

00:49:04.000 Maybe you can get several possibilities and work up one out of the group of them.

00:49:08.000 Yeah, thank you for the call.

00:49:10.000 Appreciate it.

00:49:10.000 A lot we'd like to do.

00:49:13.000 Who's up next here?

00:49:15.000 Don in Texas, go ahead.

00:49:18.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

00:49:20.000 Good.

00:49:21.000 I was just wondering if you've heard of the movie getting ready to come out, Charlie Wilson's War?

00:49:27.000 I have heard a little bit about it.

00:49:29.000 I don't know the particulars.

00:49:32.000 It's about the congressman going and creating the Taliban.

00:49:38.000 Was it at Taliban or Al-Qaeda?

00:49:39.000 I know it was the movie.

00:49:41.000 Basically everything that you said at the beginning of the broadcast about how they funded Afghanistan to fight against the Soviets, that's the plot of the movie.

00:49:49.000 And so everything that you're discussing is getting ready to be released as a mainstream movie.

00:49:54.000 And then people email me and say, I got it from a movie.

00:49:58.000 Oh, it's absurd.

00:49:59.000 What I was wondering is, originally it was a book.

00:50:03.000 Uh, if you knew anything about, uh, Charlie Wilson, the congressman, and how he was an alcoholic, and how, you know, basically it was just a... It's now widely known, that's kind of my point, is that... Well, you're also implying that, because I have read the synopsis of the film, at first I didn't register, uh, that, uh, it's a big whitewash saying that he ran it all and he did it all.

00:50:24.000 That's what I was thinking.

00:50:26.000 Yeah, that, they're, they're gonna whitewash it in that way.

00:50:30.000 Yeah, long before Wilson was sent by Reagan, it was going on with Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

00:50:36.000 Brzezinski's written a best-selling book bragging about it all, how he ran the whole thing.

00:50:40.000 And Operation Cyclone.

00:50:40.000 Wow.

00:50:43.000 Thank you very much.

00:50:44.000 Thank you.

00:50:45.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, and Robert De Niro makes the Skull and Bones movie, and it's a big whitewash. 0.91

00:50:49.000 I mean, it shows the devil worship and stuff, but it's still a whitewash. 0.88

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00:59:15.000 All right, we're scheduled to have Happy Cam and his new book, Day of Reckoning, joining us in 30 minutes.

00:59:31.000 And we've got Dr. Jerome Corsi to analyze all the incredible disinformation and spin from the news media, claiming there's no such thing as even a trans-Texas corridor.

00:59:39.000 I mean, that's all over our news.

00:59:41.000 They got billboards up saying trans-Texas corridor everywhere.

00:59:48.000 I mean, it's really getting crazy.

00:59:50.000 But they know the general public doesn't look into it.

00:59:53.000 So they just lie.

00:59:55.000 I mean, imagine cops out there driving along all day.

00:59:57.000 They see these Trans-Texas Corridor... What's the name of the website?

01:00:03.000 Uh, billboards everywhere with a guy with a cowboy hat on it saying how great it is.

01:00:08.000 Bus drivers, people that... There's got to be 20 of these in Austin.

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01:00:20.000 Brendan in New York, you're on the air, sir.

01:00:25.000 Hi Alex, I just have a few minutes left on my phone, so I might get cut off at some point here.

01:00:29.000 Just go ahead and hit us.

01:00:30.000 I was wondering if you caught Lou Dodds on Democracy Now!

01:00:33.000 yesterday.

01:00:34.000 No, I didn't catch it.

01:00:36.000 He was there for the entire hour.

01:00:37.000 They talked about the immigration issue.

01:00:41.000 And it was interesting, towards the end of the episode, someone mentioned the North American Union, and one of the co-anchors on the show just completely denied its existence.

01:00:51.000 And then today, on today's episode of Democracy Now!, they had a gentleman from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

01:00:57.000 Let me get a saying that if you talk about the NAU, it's a code word for hurting blacks. 0.67

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01:01:07.000 Their headline today is, uh, FBI statistics show anti-Latino hate crimes on the rise.

01:01:13.000 And it's all statistics from the Southern Poverty Law Commission.

01:01:16.000 The folks that brought you Elohim City, the command base.

01:01:19.000 It just seems like they're really confusing this issue with anti-immigration.

01:01:27.000 When we had Chinese spies and Chinese generals running the Commerce Department, CNN would say it was racism against Asians to talk about it. 1.00

01:01:36.000 They treat the public like complete morons. 0.98

01:01:39.000 It's incredible to me because I go to Democracy Now!, I go to Pacifica Radio, you know, as a legitimate source of news, and it just, it really shocked me. 0.99

01:01:47.000 Sir, it's all Ford Foundation run.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, I've looked into that a little bit.

01:01:52.000 They admit of some of the things that are happening, but then give fraudulent solutions to it all.

01:01:58.000 More government, more corporate controlled crime syndicate.

01:02:02.000 I mean, the government is a tool of the multinationals.

01:02:07.000 It seems like they've thrown a little bit of truth in there, and they say, see, look here, you can't deny this, and then they just tie up all this other misinformation.

01:02:14.000 Well, what do you think Glenn Beck does?

01:02:15.000 He'll get on and say, law of the sea treaty is totally evil, new order takeover is horrible, let's arrest Ron Paul supporters.

01:02:22.000 And neither the Anchor for Democracy Now nor Lou Dobbs brought it up.

01:02:27.000 And when the North American Union was finally brought up at the end of yesterday's episode, Juan Gonzalez, he just kind of sneered at it.

01:02:35.000 And they really, I don't know, it was interesting, they didn't talk about it, they jumped directly to the Minutemen.

01:02:42.000 They talked about all these other issues.

01:02:44.000 Yeah, that guilt by association.

01:02:45.000 I've noticed they'll have newscasts about child molesters, and then they'll have the next piece is about the Minutemen.

01:02:51.000 Or they'll have a... I mean, it's all psychological warfare.

01:02:56.000 And I mean, do the citizens out there listening think it's cute or fun to have this done against us?

01:03:01.000 You have to look at the money, you have to look at, you know, the fact that every dollar that's issued is loaned, and that, you know, there's a lot of key issues which just seem to get lost.

01:03:14.000 Look, Amy Goodman, the person that runs Democracy Now!, Was there during the countdown and was told to get back, they were going to blow up building 7, you see her start running and then it blows up.

01:03:25.000 I mean, we've talked to the emergency workers who were there, we've interviewed them, while the countdown was going and she's told, you see her listening, and then she starts running.

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01:06:59.000 Continuing with your phone calls, ladies and gentlemen, as we await Pat Buchanan joining us, and then, of course, Dr. Jerome Corsi. - Uh, yeah.

01:07:28.000 Every day I'm sent, I don't know, 10, 15, 20, depends on the day, different state documents, federal documents on their own websites, announcements, photos of billboards, clips of the heads of different legislatures in the U.S.

01:07:43.000 and Canada, Announcing the North American Union, announcing the Trade Corridors, announcing the NAFTA Superhighways.

01:07:50.000 I mean, here's just one of them today.

01:07:54.000 And this is from Infrastructure and Transportation, Alberta Government.

01:07:58.000 See, just up there, they don't even deny any of it.

01:08:01.000 NAFTA Trade Corridors.

01:08:03.000 And it shows the NAFTA, it calls it NAFTA Superhighway.

01:08:07.000 Uh, is the one that goes through Texas.

01:08:11.000 Uh, the other big, massive one is Canamax.

01:08:15.000 Then they call another one just Interstate 5, and then Camino Real is one that comes out of the Mexico border up into New Mexico, into Colorado, and then on up into Canada, right up through Wyoming and Montana on that border.

01:08:34.000 But, I mean, this is what I mean.

01:08:35.000 I'm literally just grounding in documents.

01:08:38.000 And you're just emailing them en masse, keep it up.

01:08:41.000 I mean, no one, no one person could track hundreds of federal agencies in each country.

01:08:47.000 I don't know if Mexico has hundreds.

01:08:48.000 I know Canada has hundreds of different agencies and sub-agencies.

01:08:52.000 I know the U.S.

01:08:52.000 does.

01:08:53.000 You read the list from the SPP meetings.

01:08:55.000 I mean, there's thousands of people at them.

01:08:57.000 Thousands of different heads of every agency you can imagine.

01:09:00.000 It's just unbelievable.

01:09:02.000 They even have joint sessions of Congress secretly.

01:09:05.000 They'll be admitted.

01:09:06.000 Well, they're having a secret session of the North American Congress.

01:09:10.000 They were having that six years ago!

01:09:13.000 Well, they're in Cancun.

01:09:14.000 It's not open to the public.

01:09:16.000 We ought to pull... I forgot about that.

01:09:18.000 We ought to pull that up and post that.

01:09:19.000 I mean, I just... But here it is.

01:09:27.000 The website is INFRATRANS.gov.

01:09:33.000 Or it's better to just type into Google, Infrastructure and Transportation.

01:09:38.000 It's the Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation.

01:09:40.000 Just type that in.

01:09:42.000 And then after that on Google, type NAFTA Trade Corridors.

01:09:47.000 And then it's called NAFTA Superhighway!

01:09:49.000 Hey, but that baby doesn't exist! 1.00

01:09:53.000 Official map!

01:09:57.000 Oh my goodness.

01:09:59.000 I just can't handle it anymore.

01:10:02.000 We got billboards everywhere saying Trans-Texas Corridor and CNN says Ron Paul's Illusional and claims there's a Trans-Texas Corridor in Texas.

01:10:10.000 The billboards are everywhere!

01:10:11.000 In fact, I meant to Google that during the break.

01:10:15.000 I forget the exact name of it.

01:10:16.000 I know it says Trans-Corridor... I wonder if it's .gov, .txt.

01:10:24.000 It's got a big website up there that says Trans-Texas Corridor on it.

01:10:29.000 Let me just type it in.

01:10:31.000 Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:10:37.000 Okay.

01:10:39.000 And you type that in, and keeping Texas moving, in your area, Trans-Texas Corridor, new toll roads, congestion relief, safer roads, see how great it is.

01:10:51.000 Oh, there's a news article today about how they're going to put transponders in all evacuees' vehicles.

01:10:56.000 Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:10:59.000 Here's Wikipedia saying it's real.

01:11:02.000 Oh, it's ttc.keeptexasmoving.org.

01:11:05.000 There we go.

01:11:07.000 Imaginary!

01:11:08.000 Huge maps everywhere, saying it's part of the Napa Superhighway.

01:11:13.000 Says how they're taking all the private property right there on their site.

01:11:17.000 Oh, here it is.

01:11:18.000 Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:11:21.000 .blogspot.com. 0.98

01:11:25.000 It's just, um, I can't believe I'm here like an idiot going, it's real, it's real, we're not crazy, we're not, there's billboards everywhere! 0.95

01:11:35.000 Ooh, I know I just keep repeating this over and over again, we got Corsi coming up next hour to talk about it with his angle on it, but I mean, I'm actually getting a headache now when I think about this, because watching everybody get conned, watching the public get snookered and suckered and scammed and bamboozled and taken for a ride, fleeced, Cheered. 0.98

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01:12:08.000 Ugh! 0.97

01:12:10.000 I mean, at a certain point, I'm like, why do I even do this show? 1.00

01:12:13.000 If the idiot moron yuppies out there think everything's so cute and funny and they don't need to get involved in politics or they can talk about how they like Hillary or they like Fred Thompson or Giuliani, you make me sick! 1.00

01:12:27.000 What is it you don't understand? 1.00

01:12:28.000 It's like when a big city police department goes corrupt and, you know, in cases in New York where they'd send two-thirds of the vice squad to prison for it.

01:12:35.000 You know, clean the city up.

01:12:36.000 And then it gets corrupt again in a few years.

01:12:38.000 The whole government's gone that way.

01:12:40.000 That doesn't mean you rubber-stamping something at some bureaucracy or you going out and inspecting water lines.

01:12:46.000 I'm not saying you.

01:12:47.000 I mean the higher-ups, folks, are just literally swaggering around totally in the Bought and paid for by foreign interest.

01:12:57.000 They're openly talking about how they want martial law in America.

01:13:03.000 They killed a bunch of people on 9-11, absolute fact.

01:13:08.000 And it's just getting worse!

01:13:12.000 It's getting worse and worse.

01:13:14.000 Okay, I guess Thomas in Tennessee is up next.

01:13:17.000 You're on the air, Thomas.

01:13:20.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

01:13:21.000 Good.

01:13:22.000 Listen, most of the population is intent on staying on the forum.

01:13:26.000 Just the other night in the debates, I don't know if anybody commented on it or even talked about it, but Huckabee just took away one of Ron Paul's platforms, just went with it and got big applause.

01:13:37.000 I'm going to take away the IRS.

01:13:38.000 I've never heard him say that before.

01:13:40.000 You know, the silence is deafening because no one's talking about the rise in the polls and he's dominating everywhere.

01:13:49.000 And then they're just going to take away his platforms and repeat what he says and get applause. 0.97

01:13:53.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

01:13:55.000 And Sam Coleman... Well, by the way, Huckabee is for tuition for illegal aliens. 0.95

01:14:00.000 I know, I know, but they're not going to... It doesn't matter.

01:14:03.000 He's a good little toady pot.

01:14:05.000 They're afraid that conservatives are going to wake up the polls, so they're just calling him the little starling now.

01:14:12.000 They're just intent on staying uninformed.

01:14:14.000 You know, 35 years ago, 40 years ago, Anthony Hilder With Millennium 2000, we put out a set of record albums about the Illuminati 40 years ago.

01:14:23.000 I mean, I was just born then.

01:14:27.000 Sam Cohen, the father of the neutron bomb, said that it was impossible for that Ryder truck to bring down that building in Oklahoma City.

01:14:36.000 The father of the neutron bomb!

01:14:39.000 People are just intent on staying uninformed.

01:14:42.000 They don't love their children.

01:14:43.000 When I hug and kiss my children at bed every night, I thank the Lord that I have.

01:14:48.000 These children that he's given me.

01:14:49.000 If we do not stand up and take our country back and put Ron Paul in there, it's over. 0.91

01:14:54.000 And people are just... they just need to wake up and realize that Ron Paul is dominating and the press is just... Well, imagine CNN and Fox and National Talk Show hosts and questions during the debates Are saying it doesn't exist, and Ron Paul, they're saying he's mentally ill.

01:15:15.000 They're saying... As soon as he said... I mean, they got billboards up and TV ads!

01:15:20.000 As soon as he said NAFTA Superhighway, if there was an informed public out there, they would have Googled NAFTA Superhighway and seen at least 500 hits immediately, right in front of their eyeballs.

01:15:31.000 But they just are intent on living on Fox News soundbites and just sitting there like dumbed-down sheep, And not doing anything about it.

01:15:39.000 It's their fault if they do that. 0.97

01:15:41.000 Their fault.

01:15:43.000 Personally, they're really held responsible if they do not do their own research.

01:15:46.000 The thing is, is that if they can't even admit... I mean, there's 25 million, 26 million people in Texas.

01:15:53.000 There's hundreds of billboards up just on the 35 Corridor saying Trans-Texas Corridor, TV ads, how great it is.

01:16:01.000 And I guarantee you a bunch of Texans watched television and thought Ron Paul was a kook even though they see the Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:16:09.000 Right now in state.

01:16:12.000 I mean, that's what I mean.

01:16:13.000 And imagine if they can't believe that when it's in their face.

01:16:18.000 Or when you type Napa Superhighway in and it's on the federal websites.

01:16:23.000 Then can you imagine me telling them they're putting cancer viruses in their vaccines?

01:16:26.000 Can you imagine me telling them that they're carrying out eugenics against all of us? 1.00

01:16:31.000 They don't even know what eugenics means, brother.

01:16:34.000 They literally... I know, it's just... Hey, listen, I appreciate your call.

01:16:38.000 Let's talk to Mark in Boston.

01:16:42.000 Mark, you're on the air.

01:16:43.000 Go ahead.

01:16:44.000 Hey, Alex.

01:16:45.000 Thank you for taking my call.

01:16:47.000 I'm calling to announce that the Boston Tea Party and Conference for 9-11 Truth will be happening December 15th and 16th.

01:16:55.000 We've got an advertisement up on Infowars.net that I personally paid for out of my own pocket.

01:17:01.000 I'm actually the... not to toot my own horn or anything, but I was the guy that was assaulted by the Fox News reporter, and you guys graciously put that up on Prison Planet, I believe.

01:17:14.000 But I would just like to hope that Things like what We Are Change is doing and what you are doing would influence people to get out there and be active and hand out flyers, hand out your DVDs.

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01:17:37.000 It's Saturday, December 15th at Fennell Hall.

01:17:41.000 We're having Joel Hirschhorn, former staff member, Congressional Office of Technology assessment?

01:17:48.000 I'm just reading it from a flyer.

01:17:50.000 Stephen Jones, former physics professor, Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, we're having Bob Bowman, Kevin Barrett, Barbara Hunniger, I think we're even having some victims, family members.

01:18:06.000 Sounds like a powerful lineup to me.

01:18:08.000 Bunch of engineers and physicists in that lineup.

01:18:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:12.000 Yes, it's very exciting.

01:18:15.000 I really hope we'll be able to cover the cost of renting the venue.

01:18:19.000 I mean, what are they going to do when one of the most respected Italian presidents ever, and the former head of their intelligence agency, says our government carried out 9-11?

01:18:27.000 That's shocking.

01:18:28.000 I'm glad he did it.

01:18:30.000 I'm so happy.

01:18:31.000 Well, wait till you see who we've got tomorrow, brother.

01:18:35.000 A little surprise guest for everybody.

01:18:36.000 Alright, I appreciate your call.

01:18:38.000 You keep it up, my friend.

01:18:39.000 And thank you for all you do out there.

01:18:41.000 And it's not gracious of us to post a video of Fox News assaulting you.

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01:25:11.000 Okay, who is up next here?

01:25:15.000 Jay in Tennessee, you're on the air.

01:25:16.000 Thanks for holding.

01:25:18.000 Alex.

01:25:19.000 Yes, sir.

01:25:21.000 Hey, this is Jay.

01:25:22.000 I wrote that Rockefeller's article for you.

01:25:25.000 Well, good job.

01:25:25.000 What's on your mind?

01:25:27.000 I've got good news.

01:25:28.000 We had an in-game and loose change movie night last Friday.

01:25:33.000 We had a lot of skeptics show up.

01:25:36.000 And a lot of people came away really impacted, really moved, especially concerning the eugenics half of in-game.

01:25:43.000 And so it was a good turnout.

01:25:46.000 We had not a whole lot of people, about 40, but a good reception.

01:25:52.000 Hey, millions of people out there doing similar things to what you're doing.

01:25:56.000 It's hundreds of millions.

01:25:57.000 And so just keep it up.

01:25:59.000 Also, when you posted the article, we got inspired, my friends and I, to start an anti-New World Order website. 0.90

01:26:06.000 So, should we promote that?

01:26:09.000 Is that okay?

01:26:09.000 Of course you can!

01:26:10.000 Just go ahead.

01:26:11.000 It's Nicentruth.com.

01:26:14.000 N-I-C-E-N-T-R-U-T-H.com. 1.00

01:26:18.000 And I'd imagine you talk about imaginary NAFTA highways and stuff that are on all the government websites?

01:26:24.000 Well, we've just launched it, so we've only been on there a couple weeks.

01:26:27.000 We've got everything.

01:26:29.000 We've been talking a lot about the drones lately.

01:26:31.000 They're just everywhere.

01:26:32.000 By the way, you posted some articles about Houston, and there was one about it happened in Lexington, Kentucky.

01:26:39.000 There were drones everywhere.

01:26:40.000 And they're here in Tennessee, too.

01:26:42.000 They're all around Nashville.

01:26:44.000 Well, we're the cattle.

01:26:45.000 They're only out at night.

01:26:47.000 We're the cattle, and this is the rogue government.

01:26:50.000 With systems that many of the helicopters have that look right through your walls, just letting us know that they absolutely rule us.

01:26:56.000 They've hired 26,000 preachers and trained them.

01:27:00.000 Now publicly, we told you this a year before, it even broke.

01:27:02.000 I'm proud of the fact of that.

01:27:04.000 We had the pastor on who, when we talked to another pastor and we got the classified documents, You're right about that.

01:27:11.000 restricted.

01:27:12.000 And now it's been in the news that they're training for gun confiscation and martial law, and that they have recruited first 13,000, and they doubled that number this year to 26,000 preachers.

01:27:22.000 And they're giving sermons now, preparing everyone.

01:27:24.000 That's why everybody's hearing this.

01:27:26.000 And they're giving newscast interviews now saying, yes, it is of the Lord to submit to world government.

01:27:30.000 You're right about that.

01:27:32.000 We get into a lot of the religious issues, especially the coming one world religion.

01:27:38.000 And all that, the FEMA programs for pastors is all part of that.

01:27:44.000 Well, yeah, because once they set up the World Council of Churches with the Rockefellers, then they were able to get all of the different denominations for big donations from the World Council of Churches into that, and then they set the doctrine from there.

01:27:59.000 Exactly.

01:28:02.000 Well, I mean, that's how we have the same zoning laws from Austin, Texas, to New York, New York, is that it's all internationally written up by the UN, and then it's adopted by treaty, and then the big bond houses and insurance companies put it in their requirements for the cities to be rated or insured, and they all just adopt it.

01:28:18.000 I mean, that's how this whole globalist system is being set up right now.

01:28:25.000 Thanks for the call.

01:28:26.000 Alright, the book is Day of Reckoning.

01:28:29.000 Hubris, ideology, and the greed are tearing America apart.

01:28:33.000 How that's happening by Patrick J. Buchanan.

01:28:36.000 He is scheduled to join us in the next segment.

01:28:39.000 We'll be right back.

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01:32:29.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. - Well, we interview him just about every year.

01:32:36.000 One of his new books comes out.

01:32:37.000 They've all been bestsellers.

01:32:39.000 Death of the West, years ago, was really one of the first big books to explain how we're going into a new world order, a North American Union, how the West is imploding, what illegal immigration is really all about, sacrificing The United States, Canada, Europe, on the altar of globalism, and his new book is Day of Reckoning, How Hubris, Ideology, and Greed Are Tearing America Apart.

01:33:04.000 Now, if I tried to go over all of Pat Buchanan's bio, Nixon's speechwriter and working for CNN, Crossfire for years.

01:33:13.000 Right now, he's one of the chief political analysts on MSNBC, also a regular on the McLaughlin Group.

01:33:19.000 He writes sometimes daily, but usually weekly syndicated columns that are always filled with just a lot of vital info because Pat Buchanan is so respected by conservatives, ideologies.

01:33:30.000 I would also dovetail that Dr. Corsi's book, of course, Late Great USA, is a best-seller that dovetails nicely with my new film that just came out, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, where we show the world leaders saying they're setting up at NAU, setting up and merging it with the European Union.

01:33:45.000 Bush, with Merkel and Barroso of Europe, just a few months ago, saying it on C-SPAN.

01:33:53.000 They say one thing out of one side of their mouth and another thing out of the other side of their mouth, and that's why we're really honored to have Pat Buchanan on, because if people won't listen to me or Dr. Corsi and others, maybe they'll listen to Pat Buchanan.

01:34:05.000 Mr. Buchanan, thanks for coming on.

01:34:07.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:34:07.000 Appreciate it.

01:34:09.000 Let's first just run down the new book, because there's a lot of topics you cover, and this integrates in with the whole New World Order system, but Day of Reckoning, break it down for us.

01:34:19.000 Well, there's a number of crises coming up the road at the United States, and it looks to me like a perfect storm.

01:34:25.000 You can start off with the dollar that's sinking very, very rapidly, the de-industrialization of America.

01:34:31.000 We lost one in six manufacturing jobs, three million of them in the last seven years.

01:34:36.000 We've had five trillion in trade deficits since NAFTA.

01:34:40.000 You've got a $233 billion trade deficit with China.

01:34:45.000 You've got a wide open border where six million people apparently came across in the last seven years.

01:34:51.000 That's about 800,000 invaders every year.

01:34:55.000 You've got no plan to secure that border on the part of the administration or either party.

01:34:59.000 A lot of talk.

01:35:01.000 You've got America tied down in Afghanistan and Iraq.

01:35:04.000 General Powell says the army is breaking, and yet we're committed to defend countries All over the world, from the Baltic Republics, to Eastern Europe, to the Balkans, to Israel, to the Middle East, to the Persian Gulf, to Taiwan, to South Korea, to Japan.

01:35:22.000 And you put all these together with a Social Security and Medicare fiscal crisis, and you put on the fact that the United States, the melting pot, is cracked and broken.

01:35:32.000 And we are not Americanizing or assimilating immigrants the way we used to.

01:35:37.000 We're encouraging them to maintain a separate language.

01:35:40.000 Spanish is becoming the second language in America.

01:35:43.000 I see the decomposition and the deconstruction of America and the eventual merger of the United States with Mexico. 0.98

01:35:51.000 And if we don't get the border fence built within the next 10 years, we will never get it built.

01:35:57.000 And I think there will be a de facto merger of this country with Mexico.

01:36:01.000 And that, to me, is the end of the sovereign, independent, unique, different United States of America.

01:36:10.000 Well, that's what the facts show, but then the mainstream controlled press, unless you or a few other people are on there, and you're maybe 1-2% of the news coverage out there, they say it doesn't exist, Ron Paul's delusional, there's no trans-Texas corridor, CNN said that last week.

01:36:28.000 There's no SPP plan to merge.

01:36:30.000 But then Vicente Fox goes on Larry King Live and says, oh yeah, we are merging the countries.

01:36:35.000 And the official Canadian Parliament has declarations talking about it.

01:36:40.000 There's hundreds of government websites saying that they're, quote, integrating the nations.

01:36:44.000 Robert Pasture at the CFR is saying it.

01:36:48.000 I mean, how can the establishment continue to have this implementation by stealth?

01:36:52.000 And do you think they're overreaching?

01:36:53.000 Do you think that their intense lies Here's what's happening, Alex, and clearly we're moving dramatically and openly toward this.

01:37:02.000 I mean, take the Wall Street Journal.

01:37:04.000 You can Google the name Robert Bartley, conservative, neoconservative editorial editor of the Wall Street Journal for 30 years.

01:37:12.000 Put his name in and put five words, there shall be open borders.

01:37:17.000 For 25 years, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the neoconservative voice of the nation, Has been fighting to erase the borders between the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

01:37:28.000 As you mentioned, Vicente Fox does not disguise what he is all about.

01:37:32.000 I put in an earlier book of mine, State of Emergency, I've got his direct quotes where he goes over to Europe and says, the EU is our model, this is what we want done, the erasure of borders, people and goods.

01:37:45.000 And tourists, everybody travels back and forth at will.

01:37:48.000 This is going on.

01:37:49.000 What is happening is, the project was advancing forward until the populist reaction, the same one that defeated the amnesty bill, rose up to the point where they said, oh, this is just silly, this is paranoid.

01:38:03.000 But the truth is, once you integrate two economies, the ways ours are being integrated with NAFTA, and the post-NAFTA declaration is down there at Baylor University, Inexorably, out of these merger, economic merger, rises a political entity.

01:38:19.000 Above it, maintain first and foremost the rules and regulations.

01:38:23.000 And this is how the common market, the six-nation common market of 19, or European Coal and Steel Community of 1953, How it evolved into this giant transnational government, the European Union, and only now are you seeing French and Dutch rejecting the new European Constitution, rising up, as Americans are rising up, to say, thus far and no further, we're going to roll this back.

01:38:49.000 We're not going to let these transnational governments rule our country. 1.00

01:38:53.000 The most important thing we have is our nation, and that is independent.

01:38:58.000 And that is unique, and it is different.

01:39:00.000 And we don't want a shotgun marriage between the United States and Mexico. 0.99

01:39:04.000 Now, you're an expert political strategist, so I can pose this question to you, Pat.

01:39:13.000 We see a major realignment happening, whether Ron Paul wins or not.

01:39:18.000 Regardless, we're seeing new forms of political activism on the web, raising record amounts of money.

01:39:23.000 We're seeing the left even starting to wake up and join with libertarians, paleo-conservatives.

01:39:30.000 We're seeing Congress with an all-time low approval rating of 11%.

01:39:33.000 The President with a 23%.

01:39:36.000 approval rating, the vice president with a 10% approval rating in Gallup.

01:39:40.000 I mean, is that not a total realignment and a total implosion of the credibility of the government?

01:39:46.000 But then the big corporate elites, the transnationals that pretty much own both parties, they are just like they're running a steamroller, juggernautting forward or saying they don't care.

01:39:55.000 So, A, how big is this realignment?

01:39:58.000 And in the future, what collision do you see between swelling populism and nationalism from Europe to the United States to Australia, How are they going to collide?

01:40:10.000 Well, I think they collided this year in the Senate bill where Senator Kennedy and President Bush and John McCain and Harry Reid and the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal and La Raza and the Chamber of Commerce All colluded for a amnesty for the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens here.

01:40:33.000 And not only that, buried in it was a amnesty, a complete exemption from all civil and criminal penalties of businesses who have hired, employed, knowingly illegal aliens.

01:40:45.000 So the whole idea was to basically legitimize the invasion that's taken place and to exonerate the businesses and the others Who have hired these individuals, and basically to give a benediction to the folks that let them in and refused to enforce the laws.

01:41:01.000 That tremendous uprising in the nation, among the American people, for the first time almost in my lifetime, overthrew the establishment of both parties.

01:41:10.000 I fought against GATT, I fought against NAFTA, I fought against the WTO, and we had great coalitions, and we went up to the hill, but we were driven off the hill by the establishment uniting and buying the votes of the congressmen.

01:41:23.000 This time, the force was so powerful, they were body-slammed.

01:41:28.000 However, then the great coalition we formed together goes back home.

01:41:33.000 The battle is over, the war is won, but the other side is coming back again, working night and day and night and day.

01:41:40.000 Now, on this project, on the project of the Erasure of Borders and the Rest, They have gone, a lot of them have gone underground.

01:41:48.000 But it is undeniable that the transnational corporations want to get rid of borders everywhere.

01:41:54.000 They want the ability to move their trucks in and out with their goods in and out of the United States.

01:41:59.000 And they also want to remove The old political systems, like when they set up a World Trade Organization in 1995 by private interest, it now supersedes the Congress because they hand over their authority.

01:42:10.000 So it's more than just the cheap goods flooding into control markets.

01:42:15.000 It's about a New World Order, isn't it?

01:42:17.000 It really is, but I think, see, we've been guarding against the New World Order coming through the UN and something like that, but Russia and China are not going to Submit to the UN that everybody knows it is a corrupt institution, a bunch of third world thugs, and people stealing money, and all the rest of it. 0.97

01:42:38.000 But the real power coming is the corporations have enormous power.

01:42:44.000 Alex, of the top 100 entities in the country in terms of control of money and resources, half are corporations now, and half are countries.

01:42:54.000 These transnational corporations Their objective is to erase all these borders.

01:42:58.000 They work with legislatures incrementally.

01:43:01.000 Now, what's happening in the U.S., as I say, is they've gone underground, so to speak, as in, oh, this is silly in the United States. 0.94

01:43:08.000 You folks are paranoid.

01:43:09.000 Yeah, they've gone to stealth mode.

01:43:11.000 They've kind of submerged like a sub.

01:43:13.000 So what I'm asking you is, how do you see it playing out with your political acumen and gravitas?

01:43:19.000 I mean, give us two or three scenarios.

01:43:21.000 How do you see it playing out?

01:43:24.000 I think Ron Paul's nomination run is outstanding in terms of awakening the establishment in Washington to a sentiment out there that people want their country back.

01:43:37.000 They want to get out of this new world order.

01:43:38.000 They want to get the troops home.

01:43:40.000 They want the borders secured.

01:43:41.000 They want to stop exporting jobs.

01:43:43.000 They want people to look out for America first.

01:43:45.000 It's the same issue that we used in 92, 96, and 2000.

01:43:49.000 That phrase Ron Paul is using.

01:43:52.000 My concern is that the establishment, because it is working night and day, and it's minions down here in Washington, and the K Street crowd and the rest of them, who are working for these corporations, who are working for deeper integration of the United States and Europe and Japan and all the rest,

01:44:11.000 That they are still enormously powerful, and it's hard to see how we've got a political leader who's going to win the presidency who is, A, aware of this, B, deeply concerned about it, and C, committed to blocking it at all costs and restoring and maintaining our national sovereignty.

01:44:28.000 Pat, what tips would you give Ron Paul in his run for president?

01:44:33.000 I think Ron Paul's doing a great job.

01:44:34.000 He doesn't need my counsel right now.

01:44:36.000 I would say he's probably better off focusing on New Hampshire.

01:44:40.000 Than Iowa, because the Iowa thing is pretty much based on organization.

01:44:45.000 I think he's going to do fine in Iowa, but I think he's got a real chance to do very well in New Hampshire, because I think a number of people will probably be eliminated in Iowa, and Ron Paul won't.

01:44:57.000 He's got the resources now to go.

01:44:59.000 One piece of advice I'd give him?

01:45:01.000 Stay in this thing.

01:45:02.000 Stay in this thing.

01:45:04.000 Do not let them run you out if you lose Iowa and lose New Hampshire.

01:45:08.000 You keep taking that message to the country, and you keep demanding debates.

01:45:13.000 My guess is you'll be cut out of the debates.

01:45:15.000 Not cut out, but they won't hold debates once you break out of New Hampshire.

01:45:19.000 They're fairly rare, but stay in those debates with those guys.

01:45:23.000 And keep your voice in that screen, because when they start cutting you out of the debates, then the country says, well, he's out of it, and let's look at what's left.

01:45:33.000 So that's what I advise him to do, but he's run a fine campaign.

01:45:35.000 Pat Buchanan, I want to shift gears and get more back into your book, Day of Reckoning, that just hit bookstore shelves just in time for Christmas.

01:45:41.000 But before we do that, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, word for word, says Bush is over the states for domestic insurrection and rebellion.

01:45:50.000 His PDD-51 says he's above Congress and continuity of government.

01:45:55.000 Then he went to Canada three months ago, and I have the declaration.

01:45:58.000 This was public, and said the UN is over the US during massive terror attacks or biological chemical releases.

01:46:05.000 The Houston Chronicle's reporting they've built detention centers for the American people.

01:46:10.000 They are federalizing more and more of the police.

01:46:12.000 This is now a reality.

01:46:14.000 They had Tommy Franks on the payroll.

01:46:16.000 Running around saying, after one more attack, we go to martial law.

01:46:20.000 I reported this a year and a half ago, it just came out two months ago, that preachers have been hired, 26,000 of them, and paid, I don't know if you're aware of this, to go tell their flocks to turn their guns in if they're told and submit to inoculations.

01:46:33.000 The police state, which Hillary or whoever comes into power can use as well. 0.68

01:46:39.000 I mean, can you speak to the type of attack?

01:46:43.000 Gonzales saying there's no habeas corpus for citizens.

01:46:46.000 Well, if he said that point blank, that's a constitutional right of every American citizen, and I know Lincoln suspended it on his own volition.

01:46:58.000 During the Civil War, but it takes the Congress of the United States to do that.

01:47:01.000 Remember, he was in the Senate, and he said, well, yeah, you don't necessarily as a citizen have a habeas corpus, yeah.

01:47:06.000 You do have it.

01:47:07.000 I mean, what that's preposterous, and there is in the Constitution, the Congress can suspend it at certain times, but I don't believe this Congress is going to do that.

01:47:16.000 Well, Pat, here's what I'm saying.

01:47:18.000 PDD 51, I'm sure you've seen it, came out May 9th.

01:47:22.000 I mean, the government doesn't start announcing and developing and funding these things for no reason.

01:47:26.000 Why do you think that's being done?

01:47:28.000 You know, you are more familiar with this, I'll be honest, than I have, than I am, but I find it extraordinarily... I don't believe a country that rose up the way we did against that amnesty is going to go gentle into that good night.

01:47:43.000 I just don't believe that, and I don't think the government, and I know there are folks in the military and others like that who aren't going to go along with anything like that, and I really am dubious that Bush or Cheney are going to try anything like that or anybody that went in there.

01:47:58.000 I would try that now.

01:47:59.000 I know what Tommy Frank said, I believe, was that if there's another 9-11, you know, in effect, we might pass legislation, basically, that interferes with the civil liberties of the American people.

01:48:14.000 And I don't doubt if you had something like several 9-11s here, you would have a very changed society.

01:48:20.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:48:21.000 And people might willingly give up certain freedoms.

01:48:25.000 Sure, let's shift gears into something else right before break.

01:48:29.000 Bush is appointing a bunch of former Clinton people to the State Department and Pentagon, as you know.

01:48:34.000 They are giving her speech writing lessons, telling her what the talking points are.

01:48:39.000 Fox News and others have reportedly been behind her.

01:48:42.000 She's gotten double defense contractor money. 0.64

01:48:44.000 Is she the heir apparent?

01:48:48.000 Barack Obama doesn't think so.

01:48:51.000 Look, I do think, I would have guessed as a Two months ago that Hillary Clinton would be the next President of the United States.

01:48:58.000 As of about, I'd say eight months ago, I would have said it's going to be John McCain.

01:49:04.000 Now, I don't know.

01:49:06.000 I think there's a chance.

01:49:07.000 I mean, it's not for sure, but the way she's reacting, the way she seems to be panicking, the way she's attacking Barack Obama for what he said in kindergarten, There's a sense in my mind that she's panicking a little bit over Iowa.

01:49:19.000 Now, if she loses Iowa and wins New Hampshire, she's a Democratic nominee. 1.00

01:49:23.000 But what I'm asking is, why have Republicans, certainly you know this, why have they been trying to position her?

01:49:30.000 I think many of them think she'll probably be the easiest person to beat. 0.99

01:49:34.000 That's why a lot of them are attacking her. 0.99

01:49:36.000 Pat Buchanan, stay there.

01:49:37.000 Final segment with you.

01:49:38.000 I want to talk more about the book and how the illegal aliens are pulling down American flags at post offices, public schools, and how the media tries to cover this up.

01:49:46.000 I mean, just how bad this reconquering of the Southwest is and how you think we should deal with this if you were president.

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01:53:01.000 And you talk about hubris, greed, the rest of it, Pat.

01:53:06.000 The establishment knows that they're using these illegal aliens and the tens of millions of legals as well to break down sovereignty so the corporates can control this country.

01:53:17.000 But as you said, there's a huge realignment happening.

01:53:21.000 Where do you see this going?

01:53:23.000 Well, you know, we're going to have to wait and see in the election.

01:53:27.000 Ron Paul is a wonderful man to have out there, and you've got Tom Tancredo, who is courageous on the borders, and frankly on the borders and on sovereignty and on trade.

01:53:40.000 On fair trade and the idea of bringing the jobs home, Duncan Hunter is excellent.

01:53:46.000 And my concern is, though, is that clearly I think that these fellas do understand a lot of this, and I'm not sure, however, that they're going to win it.

01:53:54.000 So as you look at the presidential race, when it comes down to the end, I think you're either going to have Hillary or Barack Obama on one side, and my guess would be Romney or Rudy or Huckabee on the other.

01:54:09.000 That's a guess.

01:54:10.000 Fred Thompson's a good man, but I find it hard to see where he's going to win his first primary.

01:54:15.000 So that's the real power center of the White House.

01:54:19.000 So what happens in the next four or five years if Democrats do get in?

01:54:23.000 They have a very low approval rating, too.

01:54:24.000 It just seems the revolution for liberty is just going to grow.

01:54:27.000 I think you're right.

01:54:29.000 That is an excellent point, Alex.

01:54:32.000 It's this.

01:54:32.000 Look, these people are out of touch.

01:54:34.000 The amnesty bill showed how far out of touch they are.

01:54:37.000 If Hillary gets in, there'll be the quote, path to citizenship, the security fence will not be built, there'll be some lax enforcement of the immigration laws, and a firestorm will build. 1.00

01:54:48.000 This is not going away.

01:54:49.000 This illegal alien issue is not going away. 0.88

01:54:52.000 Where do you see Iraq going?

01:54:55.000 I think we're going to find out when we bring home those five combat brigades.

01:54:59.000 Clearly, Petraeus has succeeded in what he has done so far, and he's pacified Baghdad, or helped pacify it, and we've armed the Sunni militias out there, but what those fellows are going to do once they take care of al-Qaeda, who they're coming after, we're going to find out.

01:55:14.000 My hope is, and it's a hope, is that we leave something standing over there that is united in at least some way, and is at least pro-Western.

01:55:25.000 But that is a lot more than it is an expectation.

01:55:27.000 Pat, in closing, the White House put this out three months ago, it had been in the news three years ago, that they're hiring, admitted, a number three man in Al-Qaeda, they have four different groups attacking the Iranians, and the news says the Iranians are Al-Qaeda, when they're the opposite group, Shiite, and you've got all these different warlords armed, and it's just going to go on and on, which was the original strategy that Israel wanted in the 80s, was to go in and break Iraq up in three parts!

01:55:53.000 Well, the rack will break if they get a big haul.

01:55:56.000 There's a sort of a neocon agenda just to get the whole thing to radicalize, dump it all over, and upset the whole chess table, and throw all the pieces on the floor.

01:56:07.000 And I think that could be one of the results of this, the complete balkanization of that region.

01:56:11.000 Look what's happened!

01:56:13.000 I mean, before India broke apart, we saw Pakistan break apart. 0.59

01:56:17.000 Iran's in danger of breaking apart. 0.96

01:56:18.000 They've got problems in Balochistan.

01:56:20.000 Is the New York Times agenda, though, stalling?

01:56:23.000 Worldwide, they have lost any soft power they had.

01:56:26.000 Well, that's exactly right.

01:56:27.000 And frankly, they've lost a lot of the hard power they had here in the United States.

01:56:31.000 And frankly, with this report from the intelligence estimates, I don't think Bush has got the ability to launch the war on Iran.

01:56:41.000 That the neoconservatives have been plotting and planning and propagandizing for months!

01:56:46.000 So they're completely blown, but with... They're not completely blown, they've got the ability to slide back!

01:56:52.000 So, so... Into power!

01:56:54.000 You think the neocons may stay in power?

01:56:56.000 I think they attach them... The neocons don't win elections, they attach themselves to winners.

01:57:01.000 And I think in the Republican Party, some of the Republicans, Rudy Giuliani's is totally neocon foreign policy advisors.

01:57:07.000 So you're against Giuliani?

01:57:09.000 Well, you know, I'm not... I'm certainly not endorsing... I'm certainly not endorsing Rudy.

01:57:14.000 Absolutely.

01:57:15.000 Well, the new book, Day of Reckoning, in stores everywhere on Amazon.com by Patrick J. Buchanan.

01:57:20.000 Pat, thanks for spending time with us.

01:57:22.000 Thank you very much.

01:57:23.000 Take care.

01:57:24.000 All right, we'll be right back with the third hour with Dr. Corsi.

01:57:28.000 Let's go ahead and get him on the line.

01:57:29.000 We'll be right back.

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01:58:03.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 We're talking about the New World Order in the shower, we're talking about the European Union, its strategy of stealth, strategy of stealth integration on the North American continent, this new trade deal that Bush just got.

01:58:19.000 Signed with Farouk, a big victory for the globalists, in a string of defeats. 1.00

01:58:25.000 Dr. Corsi is one of the leading scholars on our side against the North American Union, and I wanted to get him on.

01:58:32.000 At the bottom of the hour, we'll open the phones up on the North American Union.

01:58:35.000 In fact, here's the number now, 1-800-259-9231, if you want to get lined up.

01:58:42.000 Specifically, I'm asking to talk about these issues.

01:58:44.000 It's a wide area of discussion.

01:58:46.000 I want to get Dr. Courtsey on today to give us an update on Ramos and Campeon as well, the Valiant Border Patrol agents being framed and set up.

01:58:54.000 But before we do that, I want to get into the North American Union and CNN saying Ron Paul's a liar, that the Trans-Texas Corridor doesn't exist when there's the official Trans-Texas Corridor state website with the feds.

01:59:06.000 They say it's part of the Napa Superhighway.

01:59:08.000 I have the federal government saying it.

01:59:10.000 I have the Canadian government here in front of me.

01:59:13.000 It says NAPTA trade corridors, Napa Superhighways.

01:59:18.000 I mean, and I know I keep responding to this because folks, we've got to get out and warn the public.

01:59:25.000 That this is a massive hoax, and if we use this hoax they perpetrated as a way to discredit them as an opportunity, we can save this country.

01:59:33.000 If we let them engage in this hoax and win, they're going to be able to go ahead and finish this thing up.

01:59:38.000 Dr. Corsi, thanks for coming on.

01:59:40.000 Hi, Alex.

01:59:41.000 Great pleasure to be with you.

01:59:42.000 And I'm just writing a piece right now for World Net Daily tomorrow.

01:59:46.000 You know, this Newsweek, the current issue, this Gretchel Kovach, I did a hit piece on Ron Paul and on World Ed Daily and me on this.

01:59:56.000 You know, Ron Paul at the debate, the CNN debate, responded to the question about the North American Union by affirming that the globalists were planning to create a North American Union.

02:00:07.000 And he referred to the NAFTA superhighway and used evidence, you know, Governor Perry vetoing the trans-Texas corridor, the legislation that was going to block the trans-Texas corridor.

02:00:19.000 Governor Perry must have vetoed six bills the Texas legislature almost unanimously passed.

02:00:25.000 And he vetoed those bills just before the legislature went out of session or when it was out of session.

02:00:32.000 Yeah, he vetoed imaginary bills.

02:00:34.000 Yeah, right, exactly.

02:00:35.000 And these bills were going to put a two-year moratorium in the Trans-Texas corridor.

02:00:38.000 They were going to revise eminent domain in Texas to make it prohibitively expensive to buy the, you know, to get the land for this highway.

02:00:48.000 Here's the big question.

02:00:48.000 We're going to walk through all this evidence after the break.

02:00:52.000 Just a year ago they were saying NAFTA superhighway is good.

02:00:56.000 SPP's good, now they're just saying none of it exists.

02:00:59.000 I mean, why do you think they've shifted?

02:01:01.000 Well, I think it's been an orchestrated effort.

02:01:03.000 I can see it from the White House.

02:01:04.000 I mean, this traces back to when George Bush at Montebello, at the SPP meeting, was asked that question by the Fox News reporter, whether the Security and Prosperity Partnership was going to lead to a North American Union and NAFTA superhighways, and Bush did not answer the question.

02:01:20.000 He didn't say, here's the reason it could never happen.

02:01:23.000 He just poo-pooed it and said, well, it's a conspiracy theory.

02:01:27.000 And, you know, the problem is, Alex, we've known since the days of ancient Greek rhetoric that ridicule is the last refuge of a scoundrel in a debate.

02:01:37.000 When President Bush could not answer the question by logic or evidence or argumentation, he called us all a name.

02:01:44.000 And that's, you know, an attempt to have people not listen to what we're saying, But it doesn't answer the question.

02:01:50.000 Ridicule is a low form of argumentation.

02:01:53.000 We have thousands of government websites, Mexico, Canada, U.S.

02:01:56.000 saying it.

02:01:57.000 Billboards everywhere pushing the trans-Texas corridor.

02:02:00.000 Perry's saying it.

02:02:01.000 Now they're saying that doesn't exist.

02:02:03.000 What does CNN and Fox and MSNBC think Texans are going to do when they see the billboards everywhere and they're announcing it, and Perry's having press conferences and CNN says it doesn't exist?

02:02:13.000 Well, and I've got 30 pages in the late, great USA.

02:02:17.000 And as you know, they document the websites in which all this is happening.

02:02:23.000 Government websites.

02:02:24.000 We'll be right back with Dr. Jerome Corsi to go over the evidence for those that may not know specifically what it is.

02:02:32.000 I don't have time to play the Parliament in Canada and legislatures and Vicente Fox and Pastor admitting it all.

02:02:39.000 It's all documented in Endgame and in Late Great USA.

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02:05:57.000 Now I'm not trying to beat a horse to death here, but this is the big issue.

02:06:16.000 You find out that in 57 with the Treaty of Rome, They set up the European Union.

02:06:21.000 They just had the 50th anniversary this year.

02:06:24.000 Everybody thought it started in 2000, but they had the 50th anniversary this year.

02:06:27.000 We've now gotten the founding documents and internal debates of the European Union.

02:06:32.000 It was a strategy of stealth.

02:06:35.000 It was a secretive implementation.

02:06:37.000 And then the CFR writes books and puts out policy reports, and the editors of Time Magazine write articles about it, and they say it's all great and good, and literally thousands of quotes stating it and saying it and merging the bureaucracies.

02:06:49.000 And then they use this military tactic of cloaking, of just flat-out lying.

02:06:55.000 And Dr. Corsi, do you agree we need to press this issue and maybe challenge these Boston Globe writers to debates?

02:07:04.000 I think I should have tried to get that guy on with you.

02:07:05.000 To force the issue out into the open because this is actually an opportunity for those of us that know how to go to the official government websites and know how to look at billboards and know how to... Oh!

02:07:21.000 And here's another point before I forget.

02:07:23.000 I want you to comment on that.

02:07:25.000 Is this an opportunity right now?

02:07:26.000 And secondarily, earlier this year, you wrote about businesses in the Southwest and Texas who have employees getting state labor department forms demanding that they sign up with the North American New ID.

02:07:41.000 Well, guess what?

02:07:42.000 I've got eight employees here in Austin, and I got that last week, sir.

02:07:46.000 Demanding I fill out all these questions for this new organization no longer reporting through the state to the federal Department of Labor, but now to this new international body.

02:07:56.000 Yes, we got now North American job classifications, and it's been reorganized.

02:08:01.000 I've been writing about it.

02:08:02.000 To answer your first question, Alex, I'm going after Newsweek in an article that I hope to be published on Thursday or Friday, tomorrow or Friday, in World Net Daily.

02:08:12.000 I mean, I've just got off the phone.

02:08:14.000 Newsweek wrote this piece Again, ridiculing Ron Paul in the debate and ridiculing me for proposing this NAFTA superhighway in the North American Union.

02:08:23.000 I just got off the phone with State Senator Randy Brogdon in Oklahoma, and he just said, you know, Senate Joint Resolution 22 was submitted to the Oklahoma Legislature in 1995, and it called for the creation of a NAFTA superhighway by name.

02:08:44.000 I'm getting, I'm going to get a hold of that state, that Senate Joint Resolution 22 this afternoon, and I'll be able to post that and link to it on the site.

02:08:54.000 But I mean, there's plenty of evidence.

02:08:56.000 Randy Brogan's been fighting for two years in the state legislature to block laws that have been introduced to extend the trans-Texas corridor north.

02:09:04.000 I mean, that's evidence right there.

02:09:07.000 There's dozens of government websites.

02:09:10.000 I'll give you another couple of quotes here.

02:09:11.000 I mean, Amanda Teagarden, who ...is head of Oklahoma OK Safe.

02:09:17.000 I spoke to the OK Safe group.

02:09:19.000 It's a non-profit group set up in Oklahoma, also dedicated to block the Trans-Texas Corridor coming north.

02:09:26.000 A couple months ago I spoke to 300 people in Tulsa on a Saturday that OK Safe had organized.

02:09:33.000 And, you know, a man in Teagarden is writing me off saying, why is Newsweek resorting to name-calling?

02:09:40.000 This author says it's paranoia.

02:09:43.000 But she doesn't have a degree in psychology.

02:09:45.000 How can she make that diagnosis? 1.00

02:09:49.000 This is an organized campaign, Alex.

02:09:51.000 President Bush starts it.

02:09:53.000 He says down in, you know, up in the meeting in Montebello, Quebec, it's asked by a Fox News reporter, a third summit meeting of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, if SPP is going to lead to a North American Union or NAFTA superhighways.

02:10:06.000 And President Bush says, that's just a conspiracy theory.

02:10:10.000 So now then, we get a bunch of articles.

02:10:12.000 I think that word went out for the White House to attack this by ridiculing it.

02:10:17.000 And, you know, Michael Medved has been launching this crusade on the radio.

02:10:22.000 It's a tirade.

02:10:23.000 But here's the problem.

02:10:24.000 We'll talk about that in a moment, Dr. Corsi.

02:10:27.000 I mean, I literally get 10, 15 emails a day from different governments, state websites, official announcements.

02:10:33.000 These are pro-NAFTA superhighway.

02:10:35.000 But I mean, here's one today.

02:10:36.000 Alberta government Yes, I saw that.

02:10:39.000 And it's infotrans.gov.ab.ca, and it calls it the NAFTA Superhighway, and it shows I-35, the Camino Real Road, the Canamex.

02:10:50.000 These are all the same official maps.

02:10:51.000 They say it's already being built, but then we go to their website and go, look, the government, the government says, and they go, you're crazy, that doesn't exist.

02:10:59.000 Well, you know, take a look at this Newsweek article, because if you go through it, There were comments posted in Newsweek.

02:11:05.000 There were 65 comments posted.

02:11:09.000 And every one of these comments was critical of a Newsweek article.

02:11:11.000 People say, this is why I cancelled my subscription to Newsweek 10 years ago.

02:11:16.000 They say this reporter didn't do her homework and didn't do her research.

02:11:21.000 They're linking, the people commenting and responding to this Newsweek article on the Newsweek website are, they're linking to the Council on Foreign Relations report on building a North American Union.

02:11:32.000 They're linking to the Trans-Texas Corridor website.

02:11:36.000 They're linking to, when Vincente Fox was with Larry King, Promoting his book, and he's telling the Larry King Live Show, he admitted that there was a plan to create a regional currency out of NAFTA.

02:11:48.000 Well, that's the issue here, is that mainstream newspapers, mainstream magazines, TV, their ratings are all imploding.

02:11:56.000 They're now saying that Ron Paul and others, they've named you, I've got a bunch of these newscasts where they say, quote, he is a figment of his imagination, he's mentally ill, And Ron Paul drives around on Texas roads where the signs are everywhere, put up by the state.

02:12:10.000 I mean, this is such a bold hoax, Dr. Corsi.

02:12:14.000 What I think, Alex, is it's a coordinated attack.

02:12:18.000 I think it comes out of the White House.

02:12:20.000 To find reporters, Newsweek, we've had a hit piece in Nation Magazine and other reporters saying the NAFTA highway didn't exist.

02:12:27.000 We've had that piece in Boston Globe.

02:12:30.000 I think the White House is doing everything it can to recruit people on this theme to write about that this is a hoax, that NAFTA Superhighway doesn't exist, and it's in large part because we're being as successful as we are at getting people to look at the evidence.

02:12:45.000 I've got 30 pages in the late great USA with government footnotes in there, and I did it on the theme, Alex, that it's like the country western song.

02:12:54.000 You know, it's the woman finds the husband in bed with another woman. 0.61

02:12:58.000 And before the lying starts, the husband says, dear, this is not what you think it is.

02:13:03.000 You know, we're going to get the explanation.

02:13:04.000 He's just giving dictation.

02:13:06.000 It's a little bit cold in the room.

02:13:08.000 The wife's got a choice. 1.00

02:13:09.000 She can believe what her husband's going to tell her or her own lying eyes.

02:13:13.000 And, you know, I'm confident that when the American public take the time to look at the government websites, the denials that are coming out for the government are going to look you know, like lies and just an effort to hide the truth, which is what it is.

02:13:27.000 Well, Dr. Courtesy, what, four or five months ago, they said you can't see the Senate amnesty bill.

02:13:34.000 It's secret, but just trust us.

02:13:36.000 This bill would normally be public, but we're making it secret for the first time in U.S.

02:13:40.000 history.

02:13:41.000 And then when Senator Sessions leaked it, it was worse.

02:13:44.000 And Pat Buchanan just agreed in the last hour, didn't agree, brought it up himself, that it was literally a pardon for criminals, both employers and aggravated felony legal aliens, And so they got caught lying on that, and so just more and more, this seems like total desperation.

02:14:01.000 How about the Trans-Texas Corridor?

02:14:03.000 The Texas Department of Transportation refused for the longest time to publish, you know, the agreement they'd made with Cintra, C-I-N-T-R-A, the investment consortium in Spain that's going to put this highway in place.

02:14:17.000 And finally, a lawsuit forced the Texas Department of Transportation to publish the agreement.

02:14:24.000 And when it was published, it was shocking.

02:14:25.000 The non-compete agreement, the concessions that Central was going to get revenue promised by this highway.

02:14:32.000 It's just a handover for campaign contributions of the infrastructure.

02:14:35.000 And the campaign cut doesn't trace the campaign contribution.

02:14:38.000 Perry has gotten Strong campaign contributions, not just from Sintra and Zachary, the construction firm that's going to build the highway, but from Bracewell and Giuliani.

02:14:48.000 Go check how many contributions Bracewell and Giuliani have made to Governor Perry, and that's the law firm of Rudy Giuliani that is the sole legal representative of Sintra in the United States.

02:15:00.000 But if you ask Rudy Giuliani about NAFTA superhighways, he's going to deny it too.

02:15:05.000 They don't, any of them, want anybody looking into the money trail.

02:15:07.000 But I go back to this.

02:15:09.000 How can CNN and several other cable networks say that the Trans-Texas Corridor Doesn't exist.

02:15:18.000 Well, it's ridiculous, because CNN's also got Lou Dobbs on it, and Lou Dobbs has been strongly on this theme, you know, supporting the idea that the North American Union and the NAFTA superhighways are reality.

02:15:30.000 Did you see the report where they had, like, six talking heads on there? 0.97

02:15:33.000 All in little squares, like the Brady Bunch, and they were all laughing and saying, these people are nuts! 0.82

02:15:38.000 Well, they had a similar thing. 0.76

02:15:39.000 Brit Hume had a similar thing.

02:15:41.000 With, you know, Charles Krauthammer and the others in this round table on the light show on Fox, and Krauthammer sitting there saying, oh, none of this is true, and then admitting he went to a Bilderberger conference.

02:15:55.000 I mean, sure, it's nothing going on there, but why did he go to the Bilderberg conference?

02:16:01.000 And how does anybody know that there was nothing going on when those records are also kept secret and not allowed to be published?

02:16:08.000 Well, Dr. Coors, do you remember ten years ago when they would say in the news that the Bilderberg didn't exist?

02:16:12.000 Right.

02:16:13.000 It all didn't exist, and now we've got the list of attendees, we've got some of the meeting agendas.

02:16:18.000 You know, I've got another book fully documenting it.

02:16:21.000 There's this book that Estulin just wrote.

02:16:24.000 I thought it was an excellent book documenting the attendance of the Burger Builder groups and their agendas.

02:16:30.000 Alex, I just wrote an article about the North American Forum meeting that went on in Cancun.

02:16:35.000 Oh, exactly!

02:16:36.000 And they've had joint sessions of Congress down there.

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02:22:01.000 Don't forget that they formed the European Union by stealth, and I guess they'll deny it exists next.

02:22:08.000 And then they keep trying to get England to join, they try to package it under different laws, different treaties, and the people keep saying no, and the documents have come out that they have a stealth approach there.

02:22:17.000 It's called deception.

02:22:20.000 And they're doing it here, and it doesn't matter if they've had joint sessions of Congress in Mexico, it doesn't matter if they've had these big meetings.

02:22:27.000 You watch these on C-SPAN, they come right out and say it's all happening.

02:22:30.000 Dr. Corsi, break it down.

02:22:33.000 I mean, there's a great book, Christopher Booker and Richard North, called The Great Deception.

02:22:38.000 It's an exhaustive treatment of how the European Union was formed, and it documents the stealth plan.

02:22:44.000 They have John Monet, who knew he wanted to be the Frenchman.

02:22:48.000 He didn't want Germany to rise up with another army.

02:22:50.000 He thought he needed to end the sovereignty of Germany. 0.53

02:22:54.000 But he couldn't announce that, so he started with the Coal and Steel Agreement in 1957, figuring if Europe controlled the coal and steel, Germany could not have another army, and believing that the economic agreements would lead to the regional necessity for political, legal, and judicial structures that would solve the international trade disputes the European Common Market would necessitate happening.

02:23:17.000 And all through this, the strategy in Europe was to deny That anything was being planned more than a common market.

02:23:26.000 And that's the same strategy that is being taken right now by the Bush administration and those who have this North American integration effort.

02:23:34.000 I mean, you know, just this past week I wrote about the North American Forum.

02:23:40.000 George Shultz having another meeting, Robert Pastor attending it from American University, down in Cancun, a closed-door session.

02:23:49.000 And again, we got the agenda of the meeting.

02:23:52.000 And the meeting is all about North American integration.

02:23:54.000 You know, where do we go from here?

02:23:57.000 What are the economic consequences of North American integration?

02:24:00.000 It was an active agenda, again attended by the same people who attended the Banff meeting.

02:24:07.000 We published there the agenda.

02:24:09.000 We published the attendee list of the Banff meeting, which was for integration of North America.

02:24:17.000 The websites abound.

02:24:18.000 I mean, go to spp.gov.

02:24:22.000 I've published, on page 81 of the book, the organizational chart of the SPP working groups, reporting up to three cabinet secretaries of each government, and into the White House, through the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council, to the President.

02:24:38.000 But I got that chart, the organizational chart, from a Freedom of Information Act request.

02:24:43.000 The federal government doesn't publish it anywhere.

02:24:45.000 And, you know, if I can get the chart through a Freedom of Information Act request, But it's not published.

02:24:51.000 That, to me, is the documentation of a shadow government trilateral bureaucracy already in place.

02:24:57.000 Why is the government ashamed to publish the organizational chart of the SPP Working Groups that it uses internally?

02:25:05.000 I mean, it's disgraceful!

02:25:07.000 And then to deny... If you go to SPP.gov, you get the denials.

02:25:11.000 This versus facts.

02:25:13.000 Says that all this is is a dialogue between three countries.

02:25:17.000 I've got 2,000 pages in my file drawer of emails, memos, and meetings that SPP.gov has held.

02:25:24.000 I got them through a Freedom of Information Act request.

02:25:27.000 And, you know, the deniers want you to believe that if you click that SPP.gov website the right way, it's going to start playing you Bobby McFerrin music.

02:25:37.000 You know, don't worry, be happy.

02:25:40.000 Well, that's what they're doing, and if you go to the SQP site, they'll have a debunking myth section that lies, but then right there on their own site is all the facts.

02:25:50.000 Right, read that.

02:25:51.000 Go to read the 2005 and 2006 report to the leaders.

02:25:56.000 Look for the discussion of the trusted traders and trusted travelers.

02:26:00.000 You'll see their preparation to start issuing what will amount to a North American passport.

02:26:05.000 North American Union passport is right there.

02:26:08.000 Have you heard the state of Manitoba's State of the State address where the head of the legislature just says, we're merging, it's wonderful, and he just says it all.

02:26:21.000 Yeah, it's been on the internet, it's on, I've watched it two or three times now.

02:26:26.000 Also, I mean, go to SPP.gov and there's Trusted Trader, Trusted Traveler.

02:26:30.000 I have an article today in World Met Daily about the Mexican trucks again.

02:26:36.000 They're coming across an SPP-created fast lanes with SPP-issued electronic identification as trusted traders of North America in this Department of Transportation, you know, Mexican truck demonstration project.

02:26:51.000 We've now got about 10 Mexican trucking companies sending their rigs north on all this SPP-approved fast lanes.

02:27:00.000 And I documented today the owner-operator's Trucking Association, Oneida, They're filing a suit to block this.

02:27:08.000 And they document hundreds of safety violations of these Mexican trucks.

02:27:13.000 But they're still coming across the border every day.

02:27:15.000 Because they're under international rules, not domestic, but then those trucks don't exist either.

02:27:22.000 But really, the tactic the establishment is using is denying all this so we spend our time proving it exists instead of just removing it.

02:27:31.000 Let's talk about ways to dismantle this, Dr. Gorsy.

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02:34:29.000 Going back to Dr. Courtesy and then to the loaded phones, Dr. Courtesy, going into the break, I wanted to know your ideas for solutions.

02:34:39.000 I mean, all day we sit here and try to prove it to the people.

02:34:42.000 The people are starting to wake up to it.

02:34:44.000 How do we put this into action?

02:34:46.000 Because I know through different international agreements, they come in and set up regulatory systems at the county, city, state level.

02:34:52.000 They fly our city managers, county commissioners, the National Association of Counties, governors, You know, the bonding houses literally give them higher ratings and they'll sign on to this.

02:35:03.000 I mean, this is all a mass fraud.

02:35:04.000 As Pat Buchanan said last hour, with now almost half of the top 100 economies being corporations, they're just looting us old-fashioned style, like the British East India Company.

02:35:15.000 How do we counter this?

02:35:17.000 I think, Alex, it's starting at a grassroots level.

02:35:20.000 We've got some 14 states that have passed resolutions saying, no North American unions, no NAFTA superhighways.

02:35:27.000 We've got legislators like Randy Brogdon in Oklahoma, and groups like Oklahoma Safe, which is organizing to block the NAFTA Superhighway, the Trans-Texas Corridor, from coming into Oklahoma.

02:35:38.000 The grassroots are, I think, where the difference is going to be made.

02:35:41.000 And as people, as we go into what I strongly suspect is going to be a very serious economic downturn, a major recession that we're headed into, as millions of people lose their homes.

02:35:53.000 You know, Alan Blinder, this, Economist at Princeton who advised Bill Clinton to get NAFTA passed, he said, we're going to lose 40 million jobs in the next two decades, largely to China and to India, and this outsourcing to slaves. 0.96

02:36:10.000 I think as people lose their jobs, as states like Ohio and Michigan, you know, become echoes of their former self, look like Appalachia, as Chrysler goes over and Works with Cherry, this Chinese company that manufactures cars and shuts down car manufacturing in Detroit.

02:36:30.000 These are going to impact people's lives and these sufferings, these economic hardships, as the middle class gets disassembled in the United States.

02:36:37.000 People are going to wake up and say, there's got to be a reason for this.

02:36:41.000 You know, there's 10% of Mexico's population living in the United States.

02:36:45.000 We've got 47 Mexican... By the way, that's all the Fed's own numbers, which are probably twice that.

02:36:51.000 Even the Fed's numbers say it's going to be 20% in 2010.

02:36:55.000 I didn't vote for 10% of Mexico's population to live here.

02:36:58.000 Nobody did.

02:36:59.000 It's a fait accompli created in the incremental method.

02:37:03.000 And as people see this and say, why are we six years into a war on terror and our borders aren't yet secured?

02:37:11.000 Why are we letting Mexican trucks come across the border? 0.85

02:37:14.000 When President Bush wants to give $1.4 billion to Mexico to fight the drug war.

02:37:20.000 And Dr. Corsi, isn't that why they're rushing right now to try to get the MSU to try to get the Napa Superhighway in?

02:37:25.000 Because they know that their window of opportunity is closing because as their globalist policies hurt the people, that's going to form more resistance.

02:37:34.000 And I think, yes it is.

02:37:36.000 Alex, the reason we're getting this blowback about conspiracy theory is that there's two things.

02:37:42.000 One, you know, the globalists pushing this agenda are being hurt by the exposure.

02:37:47.000 Exposure, I think both now President Bush and Stephen Harper are afraid to come out and openly support SPP, and I challenge them to do that or close it down.

02:37:57.000 They won't do it because they know they'll lose political capital just mentioning SPP.

02:38:03.000 George Bush does not stop talking about Mexico.

02:38:06.000 You know, if we go into the elections in 2008, and Rommel and Compey and the Border Patrol agents are still in prison, the Republican Party is going to lose the White House and two-thirds of the House and Senate.

02:38:18.000 And it isn't going to be because people like Democrats.

02:38:21.000 You know, if Hillary Clinton gets elected, I'm saying she'll be another globalist, Bush-Clinton dynasty, so let her get inaugurated on January 20th, let's start the impeachment proceedings on January 21st. 1.00

02:38:33.000 Alright, let's shift gears on the economy, because I know, real fast, give folks your credentials on what's happening with the markets.

02:38:39.000 Well, I mean, I've got a Harvard PhD in political science, I've studied economics, including at Harvard.

02:38:48.000 All the NASD, National Security Association licenses, I've created two broker-dealers.

02:38:54.000 I've worked 25 years in financial services with banks around the world.

02:38:57.000 Well, I know you're info's spot-on.

02:38:59.000 I just wanted to put that back out.

02:39:00.000 You're saying the same thing, Ron Paul.

02:39:02.000 Same thing Dr. Paul Gregg-Roberts is saying.

02:39:04.000 And if we've got derivatives, by the way, at over $1,000 trillion, I mean, the banks... It's hard to know how massive the derivatives are, but even with the

02:39:17.000 Even with the sub-prime collateralized loan obligations from the housing industry, and the collateralized loan obligations from commercial paper, Alex, I think that half of the banks in the United States, including some of the largest ones, like Citibank, if they had to mark these collateralized mortgage obligations as debt obligations, these securities they're holding in their asset portfolio, they wouldn't have the reserves that they need to continue operating.

02:39:45.000 Half the banks in the United States today, if they had to honestly mark their assets to market with all this junk securities on debt obligations that they're holding, half the banks would have to admit we don't have the capital to keep going.

02:40:00.000 But subprime is just the beginning.

02:40:02.000 Now states are demanding tens of billions back because they're finding out that the big brokerage houses and others have sold them supposed AAA corporate paper that's actual trash.

02:40:12.000 That's correct.

02:40:13.000 And it's not just the mortgages.

02:40:15.000 They did this in the commercial paper market, where the corporations were going to buy and leverage buyouts or leverage purchases of other companies or finances.

02:40:26.000 They gave AAA paper ratings to junk bonds and corporate bonds that should have been rated junk, because they packaged them together in these securities and Wall Street sold them.

02:40:38.000 Well, you talk about a bad recession.

02:40:40.000 This could gyrate into This could be worse than the depression.

02:40:46.000 You've got probably three to six trillion dollars of bad, collateralized securities that are held today by banks, pension funds, Well, it's happening right now.

02:40:59.000 investors that are worthless.

02:41:00.000 And this scrofulous pustule that's only going to be described is now risen to quite a height.

02:41:07.000 When do you see it finally popping?

02:41:11.000 Well, it's happening right now.

02:41:13.000 I mean, when Citibank has to go to Abu Dhabi and get, you know, $7.5 billion to keep in business, to promise them an 11% return on that investment and give them a percentage of Citibank in the process.

02:41:27.000 I mean, this is, I think what they get, 7.5% of Citibank and Abu Dhabi gave them $20 billion with some transaction of that nature.

02:41:35.000 That's a desperation transaction.

02:41:37.000 That's a, we can't continue in business unless we bring in the petrodollars.

02:41:43.000 It's selling out the United States to foreign interests because Citibank is broke.

02:41:48.000 And as you know, big investment firms are coming in and buying that AAA paper now, at the top, at 26 cents on the dollar.

02:41:55.000 And, you know, you've got funds out there.

02:41:59.000 Even China, with our massive trade deficit, and all our companies going madly to get Chinese slaves to produce the goods, is an immoral and bad business. 0.52

02:42:11.000 China's now got $1.4 trillion in foreign exchange reserves, 80% of it's in dollars.

02:42:17.000 They've announced they don't want to hold so many dollars.

02:42:19.000 And it's clearly accelerating in the worsening climate.

02:42:23.000 When do you see it hitting a point where it really descends quickly?

02:42:28.000 Early next year?

02:42:28.000 Middle next year?

02:42:29.000 I think it's happening right now.

02:42:31.000 The stock market has already twice gone over $14,000 and then started trading down to where it's been under $13,000.

02:42:37.000 Right now today, They're trying to buoy up the stock market again.

02:42:41.000 They're trying to get it to $13,500.

02:42:43.000 When will confidence be lost and we see a real plunge?

02:42:46.000 I'd say by the end of this year, two months from now, when increasingly they have to rate their financial reports at the end of the year, when the CEOs have to, under Oxley Sarbanes, fess up to some reality, I expect that the first quarter next year is going to be a very down quarter.

02:43:05.000 And then it'll be openly admitted that we're in a recession.

02:43:08.000 What happens when the credit card debt average of $25,000 plus per person comes in?

02:43:13.000 What happens when all these other leveraged negative securities, you know, where they're loaning out ten times the money off of debts?

02:43:21.000 I mean, what happens when that... It's a house of cards.

02:43:22.000 It's going to collapse.

02:43:24.000 And we're in a dilemma.

02:43:25.000 Right now, Wall Street, turn on CNBC.

02:43:27.000 They're begging Wall Street.

02:43:29.000 You know, Wall Street's begging the Fed to lower the Fed funds rate again.

02:43:35.000 They've done it twice now.

02:43:37.000 And now they're putting out, now they're saying... If they do it again, the dollar will further collapse.

02:43:41.000 And now they're saying, I'm sure you saw the articles this week, now they're claiming cutting interest rates is good for the dollar.

02:43:46.000 Have you seen that news?

02:43:47.000 Well, that's just nonsense, because the dollar is at the lowest point it's ever been against the euro.

02:43:53.000 The dollar is close to in full collapse.

02:43:55.000 But that's what I mean.

02:43:56.000 Why are they now saying things that even laymen know, that cutting interest rates will drive the dollar down, and then they go, no, it's good.

02:44:03.000 Well, they've come, you know, the government has taken lying as a public policy.

02:44:07.000 It's like when they report inflation, the Consumer Price Index.

02:44:11.000 They've taken out energy and food when they report core inflation.

02:44:17.000 If they were reporting today, The Consumer Price Index, if the government reported that the way they did in the 1980s, the same formulas, they'd have to be telling people we have 12 to 14 percent inflation right now.

02:44:29.000 That's conservative.

02:44:30.000 That's conservative.

02:44:30.000 I mean, go fill your gas tank.

02:44:33.000 You know, if it doesn't cost $65 or $75 to get a tank of gas, you know, that's shocking, and that's where we're at, and they're saying we're at zero inflation or 2 percent.

02:44:42.000 It's a lie.

02:44:43.000 Let's take some calls.

02:44:44.000 Leo and Mash, but quickly, you're on the air with Dr. Corsi.

02:44:48.000 Mr. Corsi?

02:44:49.000 Yes, sir.

02:44:51.000 Are you familiar with the background people who run WorldNetDaily?

02:44:56.000 What do you want to say?

02:44:57.000 I noticed that they publicized a sort of Zionist type missive, and then I called them on it, and I got no response.

02:45:13.000 And then I noticed that they have an Israel oil banner on their site.

02:45:17.000 I don't know where you're going with this.

02:45:20.000 It sounds like you're anti-Israel.

02:45:24.000 I think they're Zionists and you don't realize it. 1.00

02:45:26.000 Okay, I heard you.

02:45:26.000 Thank you very much.

02:45:27.000 I appreciate your comment.

02:45:28.000 Yeah, Leo, listen, I asked politely at the start of the interview, not because I thought somebody like you would call in, but I want to talk about the North American Union, the economy, the state of the country.

02:45:38.000 Okay, and you know, Dr. Corsi writes for Human Events, World Net Daily, a bunch of other stuff.

02:45:43.000 He's writing about this.

02:45:44.000 We've got him on about that.

02:45:45.000 You can get 20 different flavors on World Net Daily, and it just does nothing to sit here and do that, okay?

02:45:51.000 Joe in Chicago, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:45:55.000 Yeah, Alex.

02:45:56.000 Yes.

02:45:56.000 Thank you for taking my call.

02:45:58.000 I was going to say, Dr. Corsi already brought him up.

02:46:01.000 It was the disc jockey, Michael Medvick.

02:46:04.000 I've listened to his show a few times to get the other side of what their propaganda is being spread.

02:46:10.000 He mentioned that he would give up his show for a day if someone could come on and prove there was Uh, effort to form a North American Union.

02:46:19.000 But see, but see, that's a, that's a huckster scam.

02:46:22.000 You know, money back guarantee, whatever.

02:46:24.000 That's a scam where he just acts like no one can disprove it, and then he'll just say they haven't proven it satisfactorily to him.

02:46:32.000 Dr. Gorsy?

02:46:32.000 He won't schedule me as a guest on that show.

02:46:35.000 He says if I want to call in, I can call in like anybody else.

02:46:38.000 Well, I'm not going to call in when he can unplug it.

02:46:41.000 If he wants to schedule me as a guest, I'm scheduled on hundreds of radio shows.

02:46:45.000 He won't directly argue the issue.

02:46:48.000 He wants to name-call and go into rants and raves, and my answer to that is, you know, there's doctors who can handle that problem if he's got, you know, anger control or emotional problems.

02:46:58.000 Look, here's the deal.

02:46:58.000 Here's the deal.

02:46:59.000 That Twit Medved is a hack for the White House and the neocons, and he can just continue to say it doesn't exist when the base of his audience knows it does. 0.65

02:47:09.000 I mean, he's only hurting himself, Doctor. 0.89

02:47:11.000 Well, you know, it's pathetic to have to engage in such name-calling in order to advance an argument. 0.67

02:47:18.000 I'm saying there are issues here, there's facts, there's evidence, and I'm happy to discuss the evidence on an honest basis. 0.93

02:47:25.000 That's what Michael Medved will not do anymore than George Bush will do, and the American people are looking at the footnotes You know, in late great USA, they're going to the government website and they're believing their own lying eyes.

02:47:39.000 Sure.

02:47:40.000 Anything else, Joe?

02:47:41.000 I just would agree with the doctor.

02:47:43.000 He just said that Michael does go into rants.

02:47:45.000 He does go into name-calling.

02:47:47.000 He actually now has gotten down to where he's mentioned you, Alex, and he's played the trailer to Endgame for you.

02:47:53.000 So we are getting your name through him.

02:47:55.000 out there.

02:47:55.000 So I think we'll just keep, as a listener, keep prodding and poking them with our forces on our end and leave the doctor his time.

02:48:02.000 What did he say about Endgame?

02:48:04.000 Well, he used that as a, just a, what a kook you are, I guess, and that, you know, he You're predicting the end of the time, so to speak. 0.90

02:48:16.000 No, that's not what I'm doing.

02:48:17.000 I'm saying the people running the UN and running these globalist organizations openly in all their documents say they want to forcibly reduce world population by 80%.

02:48:26.000 Well, he's probably not 90 or some BS, but... But see, everybody knows about Dr. Bianca and Peter Singer and all these people.

02:48:33.000 Well, as you say, he don't want to face the truth.

02:48:35.000 And also, real quick, I think people should check out the website of staff of the North American Union if they get a chance.

02:48:41.000 Sure, sure.

02:48:43.000 We'll be right back with more calls.

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02:49:04.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.93

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02:51:44.000 A listener mailed in Bloomberg Markets.

02:51:54.000 This just came in in the mail.

02:51:55.000 And it says, the rise of carbon capitalism.

02:51:58.000 It's not capitalism.

02:52:00.000 Inside the new economy of global warming and how much money you can make off all the new taxes in the U.S.

02:52:05.000 But there's no plan for any carbon taxes.

02:52:10.000 There's no such thing.

02:52:11.000 It's just all over the news.

02:52:15.000 These people, hey, it's coming to an end. 1.00

02:52:17.000 People know who you are now, you scumbag Schwarzenegger, scumbag Bloomberg, Hillary, Bush, all of them. 1.00

02:52:24.000 You're New World Order trash. 0.99

02:52:26.000 Jared in Wisconsin, you're on the air with the author of The Late Great USA, available at InfoWars.com discounted right now. 0.91

02:52:33.000 And I hope you will get it, because I want to win this war, and that book is pure documentation.

02:52:38.000 Jared, you're on the air with Dr. Corsi.

02:52:39.000 Go ahead, quickly, please.

02:52:41.000 Well, I thought I'd mention about their, uh, is that, uh, There was a presidential debate back in September, didn't get a lot of media coverage, a value voter debate, where none of the frontrunners were there, all the second tier people were there, Huckabee and them?

02:52:55.000 Yes.

02:52:56.000 And they asked a question about the North American Union there, and they all answered it, and all of them were aware of it and said they opposed it.

02:53:03.000 Yet in that mainstream CNN debate, they tried to make Ron Paul look like a lone nut Like the only one who would even think something that crazy.

02:53:11.000 It just shows how bankrupt they are.

02:53:12.000 Thanks for the call, Dr. Corsi.

02:53:14.000 And that question was asked by Phyllis Schlafly, who is an extremely prominent, well-respected conservative, who for decades has led conservative causes.

02:53:25.000 And Phyllis Schlafly asked the question at the value debate about the North American Union.

02:53:30.000 And Ron Paul, by the way, was there as in the CNN debate.

02:53:34.000 Equally strong.

02:53:36.000 I think the attempt to ridicule just shows that the damage is being done, and the word is getting out.

02:53:41.000 And now, what the White House wants to do is kind of put the lid on this by ridiculing it, but it doesn't answer the question.

02:53:48.000 It doesn't refute the government website, and it doesn't stop the North American integration that's going on.

02:53:54.000 I mean, we've twice now blocked the shamnesty bill from going through the Senate, but yet the border's still wide open.

02:54:01.000 No fences built.

02:54:02.000 Exactly.

02:54:03.000 But they tell you it isn't.

02:54:04.000 They tell us everything's better, but the Fed's own census say it's accelerating.

02:54:08.000 Tom in Ohio, you're on the air.

02:54:11.000 Go ahead.

02:54:11.000 Can you hear me?

02:54:14.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:15.000 Tom, go ahead.

02:54:17.000 Yeah, what I don't understand is, you know, it's crazy stuff.

02:54:21.000 So, I mean, what can we do on the grassroots level?

02:54:25.000 Run for County Commissioner.

02:54:26.000 Run for City Council.

02:54:27.000 Give them Dr. Corsi's late great USA.

02:54:30.000 Educate movers and shakers in your area.

02:54:33.000 That's better than educating a thousand other folks.

02:54:36.000 Do you agree, Corsi?

02:54:37.000 I think you've got to work at the grassroots level.

02:54:37.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:54:40.000 Go to your city councils.

02:54:42.000 Talk to your state legislators.

02:54:44.000 I'll help them get a resolution in the state to block the North American Union and adapt to superhighways.

02:54:49.000 I'm going to jam one more in.

02:54:50.000 Fred in Philly.

02:54:51.000 Last caller.

02:54:51.000 Go ahead.

02:54:53.000 Dr. Corsi, did you say that you weren't able to get the organizational chart or you're going to get it?

02:55:01.000 No, we have the organizational chart.

02:55:02.000 It's in Endgame.

02:55:04.000 It's in Late Great USA.

02:55:05.000 I think another thing you can do, and I've been doing it, is I've been confronting Department of Commerce executives.

02:55:14.000 Have you heard of Gerri C. Ward?

02:55:17.000 Yes, she is the Department of Commerce Administrator who's in charge of the SPP working groups. 0.54

02:55:26.000 She's the Chief on coordinating the information.

02:55:29.000 I asked someone at the Department of Commerce, who's got a Korean name, I don't have it in front of me, what is the legal authority for SPP and she had She basically spent 10 minutes evading that answer.

02:55:43.000 Pepper them with those and don't take their nonsense for answers.

02:55:46.000 Make them answer the questions you ask.

02:55:48.000 Yeah, call them, email them.

02:55:50.000 Call them when they're on talk shows.

02:55:51.000 Call into other talk shows.

02:55:52.000 Make a lot of noise and never stop.

02:55:54.000 We don't have any chance if you don't, ladies and gentlemen, and we've got the initiative.

02:55:58.000 Dr. Corsi, I want to thank you for coming on with us.

02:56:00.000 Always a pleasure, Alex.

02:56:01.000 Anytime.

02:56:02.000 Late Great USA, ladies and gentlemen, available right now at InfoWars.com, discounted.

02:56:07.000 Some people are selling it for $28.

02:56:08.000 We're selling it for $19.95.

02:56:11.000 And you get it with Endgame.

02:56:12.000 You can get it for $14.95 with Endgame for $14.95.

02:56:15.000 Get it!

02:56:15.000 Get it out to people!

02:56:17.000 That's the goal here.

02:56:18.000 You can make all the copies Endgame you want.

02:56:20.000 Have you missed the first hour?

02:56:21.000 Go to InfoWars.com.

02:56:22.000 You can listen to the streams right now.

02:56:24.000 God bless you all.

02:56:28.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - January 18, 2008

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