Alex Jones Show - 20080122_Tue_Alex

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00:00:27.000 It's become such a foregone conclusion that I really didn't spend more than 20 minutes on it in three hours yesterday.

00:00:36.000 It is Black Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen. 0.82

00:00:39.000 The 22nd day of January 2008.

00:00:42.000 And unfortunately, this Black Day is going to be dwarfed.

00:00:47.000 That is almost guaranteed in the next few days, next few weeks, next few months.

00:00:54.000 No one knows as we play Russian Roulette here with six areas, six chambers as it rolls around.

00:01:05.000 But they're going to continue to pull the trigger until the financial brains of this nation are blown out across the ground.

00:01:14.000 We have multiple financial experts coming up today.

00:01:18.000 The first one will be, who he re-aired last Friday, but this will be live, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of ergonomics, head of policy at the Treasury, former Wall Street Journal editor, to continue to track and chronicle everything that he and many others have been predicting.

00:01:38.000 Why is this Black Tuesday? 0.73

00:01:41.000 Well, the markets opened and plunged to hundreds of points, and then, of course, the Fed announced a 75 basis point cut.

00:01:52.000 That is massive!

00:01:53.000 World markets were begging the U.S.

00:01:57.000 not to cut by even 25 basis points.

00:02:02.000 That would have been considered reckless to the dollar.

00:02:05.000 75 basis points Is a devastating injury to an already flagging, sinking, capsizing, beached world reserve currency.

00:02:22.000 This is all by design.

00:02:24.000 This is all being engineered by the globalists because they wanted to consolidate wealth.

00:02:31.000 They wanted to blow out markets.

00:02:32.000 They wanted to shear the population as they did in 1929.

00:02:42.000 And we have IMF World Bank documents that admit this going back to 2002.

00:02:47.000 We have, again, the true paper of financial record, the Financial Times of London, which routinely tells the truth like no other publication I've seen, talking about how big central banks, and we reposted this on prisonplanet.com from three months ago, how big central banks stand to gain, and how some of the old money or institutional sovereign wealth and private wealth really stands to gain from this.

00:03:16.000 But the Financial Times of London went on to say that the bubble is so large that in this contraction it may even devastate old wealth, institutional wealth, sovereign wealth as they call it.

00:03:35.000 To even try to fathom what this means.

00:03:39.000 The market is way down right now.

00:03:41.000 We're going to give you all those numbers when we get back in the second segment, up to the second info.

00:03:49.000 The fact that it's plunging while they made a 75-point cut in the basis rate is just unbelievable.

00:04:03.000 Do you know what it means, ladies and gentlemen, that they made a rate cut this big?

00:04:08.000 They have sold the jolly, goofy, doe-eyed, slack-jawed, know-it-all, arrogant, what-does-it-matter-if-it-doesn't-affect-me yuppies, that all that matters is the stock market.

00:04:22.000 Let me explain to the yuppies why the market goes back up when they cut Interest rates, because the dollar is then devalued, and so it just takes more dollars to buy those stocks.

00:04:38.000 The stock market is really at about $5,000 right now, the dollar value, compared to $2,000.

00:04:46.000 But we'll talk to one of the real experts on the other side.

00:04:51.000 About how bad this could get, what he sees unfolding in the weeks and months to come, the days to come, and a lot more.

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00:08:09.000 We are now into the second segment of Worldwide Transmission on over 60 AM and FM affiliates.

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00:08:32.000 I want to say hello to everyone.

00:08:35.000 Listeners to this transmission are fully aware of the real economic outlook and the true economic climate, what's happening fiscally here in the United States, North America and worldwide.

00:08:47.000 A 75 basis point cut They were talking about another 25 basis point cut having a devastating effect on the dollar.

00:08:59.000 Many were saying that it was extremely reckless to do that.

00:09:02.000 A 75% basis point, I never imagined they would do this, and it didn't matter.

00:09:07.000 The market began violently plunging.

00:09:10.000 They then, of course, started hyping the basis point cut.

00:09:15.000 This would have happened yesterday if not for the Martin Luther King Day holiday.

00:09:19.000 There was More than $60 billion wipeout just on the London markets yesterday alone.

00:09:26.000 All over the world, stock markets are plunging.

00:09:30.000 We're seeing other currencies drop as the dollar drops.

00:09:33.000 As Dr. Roberts has said, this will pull the world into it.

00:09:36.000 This is just a black hole, and to talk to the real expert, who I really want to thank for spending so much time with us.

00:09:42.000 He normally comes on once a month.

00:09:44.000 He's been coming on every few weeks lately because things are getting worse and worse.

00:09:48.000 He is the father of Reaganomics, the head of policy at the Treasury Department under Reagan, former Wall Street Journal editor, syndicated columnist, and he's got a new edition of his book coming out in just a few weeks.

00:09:59.000 I do need to talk to his publisher.

00:10:00.000 I want to carry that at the InfoWars.com bookstore.

00:10:04.000 And again, a true statesman, we are honored to have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on with us.

00:10:09.000 Sir, thank you.

00:10:11.000 Hello, Alex.

00:10:13.000 Break down what this means to have a 75% basis point cut and how this is going to affect the dollar, the markets, what you see unfolding.

00:10:22.000 Well, Alex, look, I'm not a forecaster.

00:10:27.000 I look at how economies work and what policies work.

00:10:34.000 For the economy.

00:10:36.000 I think right now the United States policy makers have sort of maneuvered the economy into a position in which it's hard for any policy to work.

00:10:50.000 Concerning the stock market drops, I don't know that there's a whole lot to that because the markets drop a lot.

00:11:00.000 When they get bid way up, they come down, and then people recover, and they get bid up again.

00:11:08.000 When the stock market drops are serious, like in 1929, it's because the central banks make mistakes.

00:11:23.000 They misread them, and instead of putting liquidity in the markets, they take it out.

00:11:27.000 And the Federal Reserve's response to the 29 market crash essentially was to drain liquidity rather than add it, But what we see the Fed doing now with this cut is to attempt to pump more liquidity into the markets.

00:11:46.000 Now, of course, it's possible that the banks are too damaged, that consumer credit is too for the feds effort to pump credit into work.

00:12:02.000 It may be the banks will look at the people who need the loans and decide that they can't risk lending to those people, for example.

00:12:10.000 Or the banks may need to absorb a great deal of the additional credit to bail out their own holdings.

00:12:17.000 It's hard to know how that would work out.

00:12:21.000 But I don't think we're going to be faced with a lack of liquidity.

00:12:27.000 The tax rebate is an effort by the policymakers to bypass the easy credit and low interest rate policy in the event that it doesn't work to pump the money back into the consumer economy.

00:12:46.000 They simply want to give everybody $800.

00:12:53.000 I think that that policy would be very effective in terms of an overall boost in consumer demand and preventing a recession, if that's what we're in for.

00:13:06.000 Most likely, it would be drawn down in paying off credit card debt.

00:13:12.000 And 23% of anything that actually finds its way into consumer spending goes abroad.

00:13:22.000 Through the imports and the offshoring.

00:13:26.000 So, we may be in for a recession and a realignment of stock market prices.

00:13:36.000 Whether or not this is going to hurt the dollar is also not predictable because on the whole low interest rates make holding treasury bonds less attractive for foreigners who finance our government.

00:13:51.000 But on the other hand, the drop in share prices make them look more attractive.

00:13:59.000 So the demand for dollars could go up in order to buy up our cheap assets as the market declines.

00:14:07.000 It's just hard to know how this works out.

00:14:13.000 The problem, of course, is that to deal with the domestic situation, they need More liquidity.

00:14:23.000 And in some sense, that liquidity is a threat to the dollar's exchange value.

00:14:32.000 But in the short run, that could be mitigated by the bargain that may appear in share prices.

00:14:42.000 So it's hard to predict how it will come out.

00:14:45.000 I think the more important thing is the hardship for the average American family.

00:14:52.000 Many of them have not had any real increase in their income for years.

00:14:59.000 And yet, and they've lost jobs to offshoring, they've lost jobs to work visas for foreigners, and now they're confronted with losing jobs to recession.

00:15:16.000 They've also, they are heavily indebted and they've used up their Home equity in consumption and many of them now have mortgages that threaten them with being homeless and so I think the worst part of this will not be felt by Wall Street and banks and shareholders but by the average American family.

00:15:45.000 They're I think now going to Go through the ringer.

00:15:49.000 Dr. Roberts, the last time you were on with us a few weeks ago, you talked about how this could literally, for a time, send us back to the barter system, destroying world markets.

00:16:04.000 Do you think it was a good thing to have a 75% basis point cut?

00:16:08.000 I mean, right now the dollar is going down as we speak.

00:16:11.000 Gold is up about $10 plus and rising as we speak.

00:16:18.000 Certainly, they moved in with this huge basis point cut to try to keep a massive decline in the stock market, I guess because it's a benchmark of overall success in the economy.

00:16:29.000 That's the first point.

00:16:30.000 And secondarily, I'm now seeing all the pundits talk about serious global recession.

00:16:35.000 I'm now hearing on the McLaughlin Group and CNN and Fox talk of depression finally being thrown around.

00:16:42.000 We know they tried to keep the confidence up until just a few weeks ago, and I've seen a shift And what the talking heads are saying, what does that signify?

00:16:51.000 Probably just a lot of noise.

00:16:56.000 It is true that in the long run, the decline of the dollar could cause it to lose its reserve currency role and if another currency hasn't arisen to take its place, It would be very hard to conduct international trade on the basis that it is now, where you have a reserve currency that everyone accepts and payment.

00:17:25.000 So the fact that the United States worsens its economic position by running huge trade deficits and by running large budget deficits, the $150 billion tax rebate will raise the deficit $150 billion because The deficit's already in the red.

00:17:46.000 So this does signal to people concerned with inflation more liquidity, which usually means more inflation, and will make them anxious.

00:17:57.000 But they may not be right in their supposition, because generally in recession, prices don't rise.

00:18:06.000 And the oil price may be falling, for example.

00:18:09.000 It is falling right now.

00:18:11.000 So this signifies a very uncertain economic climate, but an acceleration of the previous policies that have now brought us to this point.

00:18:19.000 And as you said, Bank of America, Wachovia, a bunch of others are saying zero profits, negative profits.

00:18:27.000 People are tapped out.

00:18:28.000 Prices on the ground are going up.

00:18:30.000 I'm seeing it personally.

00:18:34.000 I mean, there's no doubt we're in a recession.

00:18:35.000 You talked last time you were on about how people lost $1,000 in income on average a year in the last supposed boom economy because we're going to service jobs.

00:18:44.000 This just looks like a long, slow decline, or do you think it's going to plunge?

00:18:50.000 I think the decline in the American economy will be gradual and slow, but it will be nonetheless Very hard on the average American family because living standards will gradually fall.

00:19:09.000 I think that that's the way an economy such as the United States will decline.

00:19:17.000 That's what the British went through when the British pound lost its reserve currency role Largely due to the two wars.

00:19:31.000 So a long winter.

00:19:33.000 A long winter.

00:19:35.000 See, when you get recovery, it doesn't always boost the average American back up.

00:19:43.000 Like the recovery we've had since 2000.

00:19:47.000 People's income, the average income, is still below what it was before the recovery began.

00:19:53.000 Dr. Roberts, stay with us.

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00:24:29.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, just three final questions for you.

00:24:32.000 We've only got about five minutes.

00:24:35.000 A, if you were in control of the Treasury again, if you were being listened to in policy, what would you do to try to stabilize things?

00:24:43.000 As you said, it's kind of a perfect storm.

00:24:46.000 No matter what you do, it's bad.

00:24:48.000 And then, what can individuals do who aren't in debt, you know, the 10, 20, 30% of the public, depending on how you look at it, that actually have some assets, $100,000, it's liquid, $1,000,000, $2,000,000, what would you do to protect yourself?

00:25:04.000 Well, Alex, I think the biggest problem is the dollar reserve currency basis.

00:25:14.000 What the world is concerned about Overall, is the way the United States government has abused the reserve currency role and what the United States needs to do to put stability, the basic thing, the most important thing, is it's got to do something to reduce the trade deficits and the budget deficits.

00:25:41.000 And the question is, how can they do that?

00:25:44.000 It's very difficult to reduce budget deficits when you have a recession.

00:25:50.000 And it's very difficult to reduce a trade deficit when your largest corporations no longer have any sort of national loyalty and are locating their production offshore.

00:26:04.000 So that is a dilemma.

00:26:07.000 On the budget deficit front, I did see that just a week or so ago, Congress passed a $700 billion defense bill.

00:26:18.000 Thank you.

00:26:19.000 But we can't afford that.

00:26:21.000 We don't have $700 billion to spend on Bush's wars.

00:26:26.000 If they got rid of that, or cut that in half, and just maintain, you know, get these wars over with, we can't afford them.

00:26:35.000 The dollar can't afford them.

00:26:36.000 The economy can't afford them.

00:26:37.000 If they just stopped that, cut the defense budget in half, that would pretty much balance the budget.

00:26:44.000 And this would put a great sigh of relief throughout the whole world.

00:26:48.000 They would say, oh look, the pressure on the dollar from that end has been stopped.

00:26:53.000 What can they do on the trade deficit end?

00:26:57.000 They'll have to do something to arrest, stop the offshoring. 0.99

00:27:03.000 You can never balance your budget as long as your own companies are taking your own production offshore to make it.

00:27:11.000 Because when it comes back, it counts as imports.

00:27:13.000 So they'll have to do something about that.

00:27:15.000 If they can't do anything about that, the world is going to conclude the dollar is not going to be the reserve currency forever.

00:27:22.000 And they'll start getting out from under it in larger ways.

00:27:26.000 And then that pressure on the dollar will mount and become stronger.

00:27:31.000 And it will completely cancel the ability to do anything about the domestic economy, whether it's in recession or depression.

00:27:39.000 Because that requires liquidity.

00:27:41.000 That is more dollar.

00:27:43.000 The low dollar causes the dollar to go down.

00:27:47.000 So that is the problem.

00:27:48.000 If we address the budget and trade deficits, these big problems that are sitting for a massive trouble, not a recession, not a stock market collapse or decline, but a real serious breakdown, they have to be addressed.

00:28:04.000 Now you ask me what can people do?

00:28:07.000 Nothing.

00:28:09.000 If they're in cash, they're probably The dollar is probably going to fall less than the stock market.

00:28:19.000 Gold is difficult.

00:28:21.000 First of all, unless you take possession of it, you don't know whether you have it or not.

00:28:26.000 If you take possession and it's very much, you're a target for theft.

00:28:32.000 In fact, all gold holders are targets for government theft.

00:28:35.000 They stole the gold in 1933 from Americans.

00:28:39.000 They can do it again.

00:28:43.000 You could say, well, go into foreign markets.

00:28:45.000 Well, they're falling too.

00:28:47.000 So there's real no safe haven now.

00:28:49.000 That's what you've always said, is that this wasn't just going to be contained here as foreigners were laughing. 1.00

00:28:55.000 This is really going to bring down the whole market if it continues.

00:28:58.000 It's not going to bring it down.

00:29:00.000 It's going to make people lose a lot of paper wealth.

00:29:03.000 A lot of people who are worth $20 million are going to be worth $15 million.

00:29:07.000 Well, that's what I meant by bring it down to the level it's in.

00:29:10.000 Yeah, it's going to come down.

00:29:12.000 You're right.

00:29:12.000 But to be clear, you're talking about if this policy continues, and by the way, Joseph Stiglitz says the same thing, that it could cause a total worldwide breakdown.

00:29:21.000 If the destruction of the dollar's role as a reserve currency continues, And there's not a clear alternative that arises to take its place.

00:29:31.000 That's exactly right.

00:29:32.000 That's what will happen.

00:29:33.000 And that's the biggest danger, because there's no way to survive that that's known through economic science.

00:29:41.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, thank you so much for spending time with us today.

00:29:45.000 You're welcome, Alex.

00:29:45.000 It's always a pleasure to be with you.

00:29:47.000 God bless you.

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00:33:37.000 Remember yesterday I read an article headlined, Conference Promotes Global Citizenship, of the Daily Herald, Wisconsin.

00:33:47.000 And at the end of it, it talks about how they're training all the professors to tell their students about world government, world citizenship, and how great globalization is.

00:33:56.000 And at the end, and I hear this on NPR, I see it on television, I've been hearing it, you know, twelve years ago.

00:34:04.000 Longer.

00:34:05.000 Before I even got on air.

00:34:09.000 I heard this.

00:34:11.000 Listen to this last line.

00:34:13.000 The United States has had a good run using 50% of the world's resources, but the world won't let us do that anymore.

00:34:20.000 McGaugh said.

00:34:23.000 That's the person going around having all the professors come in and teach them the curriculum of world government.

00:34:30.000 And just out of the blue, they just add that onto there about how the U.S.

00:34:35.000 has had a good run, but that's over.

00:34:37.000 And I've heard them on NPR go, yeah, soon the markets will implode.

00:34:41.000 This was like three years ago.

00:34:42.000 And, you know, we're living outside our means.

00:34:46.000 We're going to have global carbon taxes, and we're going to do all this for the earth, and we're all going to live like serfs, but it's what we deserve.

00:34:52.000 It's so good.

00:34:53.000 Then you get Roberts on, who's very, very conservative.

00:34:59.000 And he says, man, they've just done everything wrong.

00:35:03.000 There's no way out of it.

00:35:04.000 They've done the exact thing that That just any way you cut it, we're in deep trouble.

00:35:09.000 Did you hear him talk about that? 1.00

00:35:10.000 He's like, man, they're just really dumb! 1.00

00:35:14.000 He said that over and over again on the show. 1.00

00:35:16.000 No, they're not.

00:35:18.000 The Council on Foreign Relations put out a report two days ago saying the end of the dollar is basically a good thing, and that we're going to have a world currency.

00:35:27.000 We'll still have our regional currency, but they'll be pegged by the central banks, globally enforced, whatever they say the currency is worth, so they can inflate it, they can reduce it, they can do whatever they want.

00:35:39.000 He thought the globalists were bad.

00:35:40.000 He's having the power to issue the currency and issue credit, Now they're going to globally control it, everywhere, and not even have to play the currencies off against each other, which is what the Trilateral Commission said they'd do back in 1974 in their writings.

00:35:54.000 How many years have I told you?

00:35:55.000 How many times have I quoted it?

00:35:57.000 They would bring up the euro, bring down the dollar, then have currency crises between the two, and then offer you a world government.

00:36:04.000 And by offer it, offer you can't refuse, they just do it.

00:36:07.000 But offer it as a solution.

00:36:10.000 And as the Financial Times of London, as the SPP documents show, as the IMF World Bank documents show, the big central banks are doing this by design to blow out thousands of smaller and medium-sized and even mega-banks, to blow out the brokerage firms.

00:36:24.000 I mean, everybody was getting into lending.

00:36:28.000 Private individuals.

00:36:32.000 Just regular companies.

00:36:34.000 I mean, I know doctors and dentists and lawyers who started selling credit and buying debt Basically acting as bankers.

00:36:45.000 Unlimited liquidity.

00:36:49.000 Now the central banks in 29 did call in the margins.

00:36:52.000 Did call in the margin calls on leverage put options.

00:36:57.000 People going short and long.

00:37:00.000 They didn't restrict the money supply until about 1939.

00:37:04.000 By design, wouldn't issue more credit And a handful of banks that had positioned themselves before, who already dominated the economy and owned most of the newspapers, fully took over the economy.

00:37:18.000 Got the commanding heights and have been then going in sending in their teams to buy off cities and counties and county commissioners and creating National Association of Governors, National Association of Counties, cities, city managers where they all go to New York and Davos and go to these meetings every month and where they get lavished and are told do these deals and you'll be given a job when you leave a city manager at the small city and then ten years later after they leave the big brokerage firm or the big bank or the big equity group

00:37:48.000 The Sovereign Wealth Group, they then go back into a bigger city, then they go back out after five years, back into the corporate banking world, institutional banking, then back in as city manager over a major city like Manhattan or Dallas, Texas.

00:38:04.000 And that's who really runs everything.

00:38:06.000 And even those mayors are just little political hacks and corrupt individuals that just wheel and deal.

00:38:12.000 They don't even know the inner workings of the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.

00:38:16.000 How, since the 50s, now over 80% of the stock market is owned by institutions, by governments, which are headed up by corporate officers, who then nexus in And plug into the larger corporate umbrella.

00:38:29.000 I mean, you understand this is piracy.

00:38:31.000 This is mafia, no holds barred, military conquest financially.

00:38:38.000 In a military corporate structure of command, carried out with intelligence agency oversight and precision.

00:38:47.000 And they're now going to take us into the long decline.

00:38:54.000 Things are still booming compared to the way they're going to get in the next couple years.

00:38:59.000 Give all the forecasters a ride, and the globalist plans are accurate.

00:39:08.000 And you need to understand, they did it to you.

00:39:10.000 They engineered it.

00:39:12.000 They created it.

00:39:13.000 And just like Joseph Stickels when he left the World Bank and IMF, when they openly Tell them we want to go into third world countries and blow them out. 0.90

00:39:20.000 We want to give them loans, tell our politicians not to pay them off, have the politicians sign loan sharking 20, 30, 40 percent interest deals, then they are designed to not be paid back, then they take over the water districts, the national parks, the city streets, the infrastructures, and the foreign corporations come in and say, We're literally buying up your government.

00:39:42.000 We're buying up your roads.

00:39:44.000 And the Supreme Court says, yeah, private companies can come pay off.

00:39:48.000 It's actually in the ruling.

00:39:49.000 It says paying them off.

00:39:50.000 It literally legalizes theft, kickbacks.

00:39:56.000 It says they can come in and lobby and finance campaigns to take private property.

00:40:01.000 And then the big debate is about, oh my God, they don't have to, you know, just have government take private property.

00:40:05.000 Now private groups can do it if they request it.

00:40:08.000 What they didn't tell you though, unless you read the local papers in New London and Connecticut and Freeport, Texas and a thousand other places, is that they come in now and say, you know what?

00:40:20.000 We're not even going to pay you 10% of what your property tax says this is worth.

00:40:27.000 And in some cases they just say, you get nothing and they literally send SWAT teams.

00:40:34.000 In and just throw you off crying off your 300 acre farm and on the edge of a big city in New York or New Jersey.

00:40:42.000 We've had those families on.

00:40:43.000 I mean, the cops don't know.

00:40:44.000 They just hear, oh, they won't get off their land.

00:40:47.000 And the cops just follow orders.

00:40:48.000 They don't know what a comprehensive annual financial report is.

00:40:51.000 They don't understand what a derivative is, just like the general public.

00:40:54.000 They're just told bad people.

00:40:57.000 And they get nothing.

00:40:59.000 In New London, the hundreds of families that held out and refused to move out when private interest wanted it, they got nothing!

00:41:07.000 In fact, some of them got given a demolition bill to tear down their three-story Victorian houses valued between $300,000 and $600,000 depending on which house we looked at.

00:41:15.000 dollars depending on which house we looked at.

00:41:17.000 That's the new America. 0.50

00:41:20.000 They're not going to have 10% of the college graduates be in security and spying and homeland security and domestic CIA offices in every city and command centers tracking our every move because they're looking for Al-Qaeda under the bushes or under the bed or under a rock.

00:41:36.000 They're This is for us.

00:41:38.000 They're totally shifting it over, and the same private interest own the big security firms, and the private Merck armies, and they then make the profits off of the new predatory economy.

00:41:52.000 Their plan is so hellish, so cold-blooded, so long-term.

00:41:59.000 It's not like Hitler just coming to power and having someone organize and take an action, or the Soviets.

00:42:03.000 This is creeping death.

00:42:05.000 This is calculated.

00:42:07.000 This is system-wide shift.

00:42:11.000 Global shares are tumbling all over the place, and the reason the stock market, again, it was plunging hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of points.

00:42:20.000 It plunged hundreds of points last week.

00:42:23.000 Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars being lost a day in your portfolios.

00:42:30.000 And you can say, well, I don't have the stocks, you know, I cut wood for a living, or I mow yards, or I make a pretty good living in that in the past, because there were yuppies and people with money to buy it from you.

00:42:43.000 But see, there's that stagnation in the economy.

00:42:50.000 But notice everything they're doing is to get you leveraged out in debt, get you bankrupt, not able to get a job.

00:42:58.000 A $100 million ad package from the Mexican government, U.S.

00:43:01.000 government, PR firm Rob Allen & Co.

00:43:04.000 We're into the third year, you just now hear it on CNN.

00:43:08.000 Paying for TV ads, radio, buying reporters, school programs.

00:43:15.000 You know, there's areas all over Texas where English isn't even allowed in the school.

00:43:19.000 They just say, sorry, you will speak Spanish.

00:43:22.000 The Mexican flag flies over at least seven Texas cities.

00:43:28.000 Again, big corporations behind it.

00:43:30.000 Anything to destroy sovereignty, destroy culture, break down borders so the globalists can absorb the infrastructure and get past the Bill of Rights and Constitution, which is already gone, but people still think they have vestiges, so they're standing up and fighting, so they have to act like it's still there.

00:43:46.000 There's still time to at least put a stop to this.

00:43:49.000 To at least hold the enemy.

00:43:53.000 But I'm sorry, You're not going to be able to do that leaning over a Mexican food bar watching the ball game.

00:44:03.000 You're not going to be able to do that if you don't spend any time getting involved.

00:44:09.000 Any time in real issues.

00:44:10.000 Now I'm not going to preach here anymore.

00:44:13.000 I have just stacks of financial news here in front of me.

00:44:15.000 I mean, in fact, some of these aren't stapled.

00:44:17.000 I need to go through these during the next break.

00:44:25.000 now Of course, the financial news is changing so fast that it makes my head spin.

00:44:35.000 But again, the market opened at 9 a.m., plunged to $11,700.

00:44:40.000 to 11,700, it's at 11,956 right now, and you're saying, okay, well, that's just a few hundred point loss, and it went back up. .

00:44:56.000 That's with a 75 basis points cut.

00:45:03.000 I've got to refinance my house.

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00:45:09.000 I have got to go refinance that sucker. 0.96

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00:45:12.000 I do the show.

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00:45:53.000 And of course, refinancing is a big hassle, but we all should be doing that now.

00:45:58.000 My goodness.

00:46:00.000 But don't let them sell you on some new mortgage because you're refinancing.

00:46:03.000 I know you're tapped out, but some of you aren't.

00:46:06.000 We've got smart listeners who've known about the world for decades longer than I, and you've been positioned, and you're doing quite nicely.

00:46:14.000 But we'll break it down.

00:46:15.000 The factory closings, the huge layoffs across industries.

00:46:20.000 Globalism's really doing great for us, isn't it?

00:46:26.000 I wanted to bring Ted Anderson up for this segment and the next.

00:46:28.000 I got him on late.

00:46:29.000 Then we're going to cover all the news for the first 20 minutes of the next hour and then wide open phones for the balance of the show.

00:46:34.000 And I believe we have another financial expert popping in later in the third hour as well.

00:46:43.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:46:44.000 You heard Dr. Roberts.

00:46:48.000 If you have gold certificates, you know you can't get them.

00:46:52.000 There are private vaults around the country that have good security, and that's a good place to keep them.

00:46:56.000 Or you can move into silver.

00:47:02.000 But the government can come and take it, too.

00:47:10.000 But, I mean, they can certainly take it instantly if it's in the stock market or if it's just in cash sitting in the bank.

00:47:16.000 Ted, everything we've talked about is happening and they're continuing the exact same policies that ensure, you heard Dr. Roberts earlier, that ensure a total collapse in his words.

00:47:27.000 Yeah, that's what we're looking at right now, the dollar.

00:47:29.000 I mean, that new economic stimulus package that was just passed, everybody's going to get, what, 800 bucks or whatever?

00:47:35.000 That's going to drive the dollar down. 0.95

00:47:37.000 They're lowering the interest rates.

00:47:38.000 That makes the dollar drop further.

00:47:40.000 The economy's turning down.

00:47:41.000 The stock market's in the tank.

00:47:43.000 Everything spells bad news for the United States dollar.

00:47:46.000 There's no question about it.

00:47:48.000 It's a perfect storm.

00:47:49.000 You're never going to see, at least I should say in the history since I've been studying economics for the last 30 years, I've never seen it like this.

00:47:57.000 This is just an amazing time.

00:47:59.000 Well, any way you cut it, it's going to be bad.

00:48:01.000 On the good side, a slow, dark winter of decline.

00:48:04.000 On the bad side, barter collapse.

00:48:06.000 Just absolute, I mean, I guess you're talking about Planet of the Apes or something.

00:48:12.000 Which is exactly what the globalists want because then they can come in and play the part of the saviors, reorganize economies.

00:48:18.000 Ted, you've got an offer on gold at its lower price from a few weeks ago.

00:48:23.000 It's racing back up towards $900 right now.

00:48:27.000 I mean, if I had the currency, if I had the capital right now, I would continue to buy gold and silver.

00:48:32.000 I'm tapped out right now, but for anybody that does, you've got three offers today.

00:48:36.000 Tell them about it.

00:48:36.000 I do, yeah, as a matter of fact.

00:48:38.000 All this stuff is relative to about $870 an ounce.

00:48:40.000 Right now it's $891, so it's already gone up $20 since this particular price point.

00:48:47.000 But you can get them now and you'll get them at that level.

00:48:50.000 Right now I have the British Sovereigns.

00:48:51.000 They are trading currently at $240 per coin.

00:48:55.000 It's a quarter ounce gold piece.

00:48:56.000 That particular coin was $2.50 when gold was $8.90 last time around.

00:49:02.000 The next thing that I have is the $5 gold pieces which are the commemorative coin by the United States.

00:49:08.000 They're at $3.27.

00:49:10.000 That particular coin was in the $3.35 range here just recently when gold was at $8.90.

00:49:16.000 I have the francs at $1.92.

00:49:18.000 Well those were trading around 196 at 890 an ounce and I also have the silver dollars now silver dollars are at $400 per roll of 20 and and that was the price when silver was at about $15.50 and right now we've got silver sitting at $16.13 So, everything is being pushed back upward.

00:49:39.000 There was a little sell-off here, a little manipulation to support the dollar, and it didn't last very long.

00:49:45.000 It's all falling apart.

00:49:46.000 Obviously, the U.S.

00:49:47.000 stock market, we've seen that go down.

00:49:49.000 We've just seen gold go down.

00:49:51.000 That was because of central banks selling, trying to manipulate the market.

00:49:55.000 And, Chad, there's no doubt, and correct me if I'm wrong, but even in this more than 25 years, a 75% basis point signals a total commitment To the phony stock market and a further decline of the dollar.

00:50:09.000 It is.

00:50:11.000 It's like they're fighting fire with gasoline.

00:50:15.000 They're trying to prop up the economy by printing more money and the problem right now is that we've got too much money as it is.

00:50:22.000 That's why the dollar is falling.

00:50:23.000 That's why we have the recession in the first place.

00:50:26.000 Lowering interest rates at this time makes people want to buy bonds even less.

00:50:32.000 Less money lent to the United States.

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00:50:40.000 Alex, are you going to keep me over to the other side of the break?

00:50:42.000 Yes, 1-800-686-2237.

00:50:43.000 This is the Globalists fully destroying us financially, rolling us, beating the daylights out of us, absolutely Shanghai-ing us, bushwhacking us. 0.93

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00:54:59.000 And we know that Willie Nelson knows about the New World Order.

00:55:10.000 Everybody knows, as they say.

00:55:17.000 Can't we stand up?

00:55:23.000 Can't we move together against these people?

00:55:25.000 Look, they're monopoly men.

00:55:26.000 They've been positioning their wealth for at least a decade in preparation of this.

00:55:30.000 We know, and this used to be in the article that I know the Watsons are working on right now, the great job they do.

00:55:35.000 Nemo, I hope, does one.

00:55:36.000 You know, just got over the flu.

00:55:38.000 Doing a great job at TruthNews.us.

00:55:40.000 We need to have a report explaining that Bilderberg, three years ago, two years ago, we told you, was trying to pop the real estate bubble to start this domino going.

00:55:49.000 They issued all the credit to get countries and individuals and companies in this position.

00:55:55.000 Now it's going to be a long squeeze at best, and at worst, total implosion.

00:56:01.000 Ted, tell folks about those three coin offers.

00:56:04.000 They're all fabulous deals.

00:56:06.000 Oh, they're great deals right now.

00:56:07.000 You've got $240 for British Sovereigns.

00:56:10.000 That's a great coin.

00:56:11.000 It's a quarter of an ounce of gold.

00:56:13.000 It's a good way to have a small piece of gold to trade for what you need to trade for.

00:56:17.000 The franc coins, they're coins that were issued by the French, the Swiss, the Belgium countries.

00:56:25.000 It's at $192.

00:56:27.000 It's another good buy to be getting into a small piece of gold trading known, recognized throughout the world.

00:56:33.000 We also have the silver dollar rolls.

00:56:35.000 $400 per roll of 20, that's $20 per silver dollar.

00:56:39.000 It's a great way to get involved with the silver market.

00:56:42.000 Lots of people are getting into that.

00:56:43.000 And I want to briefly explain to folks that silver was six bucks, how many years ago?

00:56:49.000 Five, six years ago.

00:56:51.000 Sure, now it's up at 16, but still it hasn't moved 20% of what it should for dollar devaluation.

00:56:58.000 It's the real sleeper.

00:56:59.000 It is the barn burner buy like gold was, you know, in 2001 at $300 an ounce, now $900.

00:57:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the silver deal is smoking hot.

00:57:10.000 Ted, give them the number.

00:57:11.000 Yeah, again, it's 1-800-686-2237.

00:57:15.000 That's 1-800-686-2237.

00:57:18.000 There's no question about it.

00:57:19.000 The silver dollars are a real good buy at this particular time.

00:57:22.000 The gold is a good buy.

00:57:23.000 The dollar's falling.

00:57:24.000 It's not going to stop falling.

00:57:26.000 We're going to be looking at prices on gold.

00:57:28.000 $800, $900 gold is going to seem awfully cheap.

00:57:32.000 It really is.

00:57:33.000 People are going to be looking at $1,600, $2,000 gold and just wish that they had it at $900.

00:57:38.000 The silver dollars at $14, $15, $16.

00:57:39.000 Now we're at $16.13 an ounce.

00:57:41.000 $50 an ounce in 1980.

00:57:43.000 Think about it.

00:57:44.000 The dollar has lost more than 50% of its value.

00:57:45.000 cents an ounce $50 an ounce in 1980 think about it the dollar has lost more than 50% of its value that means if it swings properly would be 100 an ounce easily $100 an ounce easily Easily.

00:57:58.000 I mean, that's what's going on right now.

00:57:59.000 We have an economic crisis going on.

00:58:01.000 People need to have precious metals.

00:58:03.000 There's no question about it.

00:58:04.000 Look, this is an absolute no-brainer and I just wish I had the capital to move into more silver.

00:58:10.000 Ted, give them the number.

00:58:11.000 Hey, it's 1-800-686-2237.

00:58:14.000 Give us a call.

00:58:15.000 We'll be happy to help you out.

00:58:16.000 Get a large order, small orders, it doesn't matter.

00:58:18.000 Just give us a call at 1-800-686-2237.

00:58:21.000 We'll be happy to give you all the information you need to get started on a gold and silver portfolio.

00:58:26.000 Ted, I want to hold you over for five more minutes before I get into the news, because, and go through all this financial news, because I want to get your take on watching this happen before when things weren't 10% as bad.

00:58:37.000 How do you see this unfolding yourself?

00:58:43.000 You are listening to GCN.

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00:58:48.000 It is... Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 The global financial oligarchy that owns our military industrial complex and almost every state, county, city, state government, federal government, is making a consolidation move.

00:59:26.000 He's been a stockbroker, he's been in all sorts of financial Trading businesses.

00:59:32.000 He's been in the precious metals business for more than 25 years.

00:59:36.000 He's Ted Anderson.

00:59:36.000 Ted, is there any doubt in your mind, and we have the declarations from him, that this is being done by design?

00:59:43.000 And B, from what you've seen in the past, we've never had anything this bad, but how do you see this unfolding in the short term and the long term?

00:59:51.000 Well, even short term, long term, same thing.

00:59:54.000 I mean, the problem we have right now is the United States dollar is losing its world-class status.

01:00:00.000 People are no longer using U.S.

01:00:02.000 dollars as a second alternative to their own currencies when I say people, people of other nations.

01:00:09.000 They used to have great reserves of U.S.

01:00:12.000 dollar in hand and on stock.

01:00:14.000 Because of the Bretton Woods Agreement, the United States dollar was exchangeable for gold and silver for foreigners, even though it was illegal to own here in the United States after 1933.

01:00:24.000 Well, Nixon had a problem with the Vietnam War going on and deficit spending, that the United States dollar was falling so fast and gold was going up so quick that Fort Knox was going to be emptied.

01:00:35.000 And in order to stop that from happening he raised the price of gold first from $36 to $44 an ounce, $42 an ounce.

01:00:44.000 And then the dollar continued to plummet, so he just shut the gold window completely and ended the Bretton Woods Agreement.

01:00:50.000 Since then, there has been no limitation as far as to how much money can be printed and how much deficit spending that can go on.

01:00:58.000 Since 1972, we had an economic collapse practically in 1980 when Jimmy Carter was not.

01:01:05.000 And the climate financially was far better than it is now.

01:01:08.000 To explain to people, we have only, in physical buying power, according to the numbers I've seen, seen about 20% of dollar value reduction of what it really should.

01:01:18.000 We're talking about a few cents a dollar maximum in real value in it now, but we haven't seen that fully take effect.

01:01:25.000 How long until we see those effects start to come into play?

01:01:28.000 I mean, if we're at 12% to 14% inflation last year, they're talking openly about 20% this year.

01:01:34.000 This is going to be just absolute bedlam.

01:01:37.000 Well, it is, Alex, and here's the issue.

01:01:39.000 I mean, the dollar's falling real hard.

01:01:40.000 So foreigners that are sitting on these reserves want to sell their reserves.

01:01:44.000 At the same time, the market's not big enough to absorb them.

01:01:47.000 If the Chinese started dumping their $1.3 trillion of their cash and bonds and bills into the marketplace to try to sell them. 0.85

01:01:54.000 Trade back into some more stronger currency.

01:01:57.000 They'll set up a stampede with other countries as well.

01:02:00.000 And the entire portfolios will be wiped out.

01:02:03.000 So they're sitting in a situation where they know that their value of their resource is going down and very fast.

01:02:09.000 But if they try to sell it, it goes down even faster.

01:02:12.000 So they're just trying to quietly get rid of it.

01:02:15.000 Can you believe that Roberts is openly talking about total collapse?

01:02:19.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:02:19.000 I mean, Craig Roberts is more likely to tell you to be in the stock market and everything's going to be rosy and good.

01:02:24.000 I mean, this guy's not a gold bug.

01:02:27.000 This guy is more of what I would consider an institutional type investor.

01:02:31.000 This guy's telling you that you've got to get out.

01:02:34.000 That's amazing.

01:02:35.000 And it's not just Craig Roberts.

01:02:37.000 There's a lot of them out there right now that are talking the same tune.

01:02:40.000 And people that historically have been real positive about the economy and saying real strong things about the dollar.

01:02:48.000 But right now, there's just too many irons in the fire.

01:02:52.000 Like you said, it's a perfect storm.

01:02:54.000 You have too many U.S. dollars, too many bonds, too many treasury notes.

01:02:58.000 Like Ron Paul says, we're borrowing.

01:03:02.000 We've got all the states now trying to demand their institutional investment back, according to contract, and the funds they're in are saying, sorry, the money isn't there. 0.82

01:03:10.000 They AAA-rated junk. 0.93

01:03:12.000 I mean, this is... 0.99

01:03:13.000 I, Ted, I'm freaked out.

01:03:14.000 I mean, I keep trying to explain to people, we're not joking around about, as bad as you think it is now, folks, we're sitting on top of a pile of dynamite with a flamethrower.

01:03:23.000 Well, that's exactly right.

01:03:24.000 If you're not, you know, if you're frightened about your investments in the U.S.

01:03:28.000 dollar, you should be.

01:03:29.000 And if you're not, you've got your head in the sand.

01:03:32.000 You're going to get wiped out.

01:03:34.000 Folks, we need to give you a call, Ted, at 800-686-2237.

01:03:38.000 Again, 800-686-2237.

01:03:40.000 The Alex Jones Special to get gold and silver at the prices it was a few weeks ago.

01:03:45.000 If not, you'll pay the current price.

01:03:46.000 It's still a good deal.

01:03:47.000 Give them a call.

01:03:48.000 Ted, thanks for the analysis.

01:03:49.000 Yeah, you bet.

01:03:50.000 Anytime.

01:03:51.000 We'll be right back.

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01:07:31.000 There's so many facets to this, but here's just the basics in layman's terms.

01:07:35.000 They try to make it overly complex on the news, or they only focus on certain sectors of the economy, and really it's a lot of hyperbole.

01:07:44.000 The fact that we've really been in recession for decades, but it's been deep for six years, the average income has been $1,000 less per year, Then it was the previous year.

01:07:56.000 And they call that a booming economy.

01:07:58.000 Quote, economy growth is at 1.4 percent right now.

01:08:02.000 That's with conservative inflation at about 12 to 14 percent.

01:08:05.000 Different groups have different numbers.

01:08:07.000 It can be as high as 20, especially in some commodities like gold and energy, fuel, natural gas.

01:08:16.000 But you have most people are tapped out.

01:08:19.000 In January of 2007, Using 2006 numbers, it only got worse the next year, but the number is always about a year behind.

01:08:27.000 We passed the waymark.

01:08:29.000 So to be technical, in 2007 they announced that in mid-2006 we crossed the waymark to be in the most indebted we've ever been in our history.

01:08:39.000 The previous record for private, corporate, institutional debt was in the depths of the depression in December of 1933.

01:08:49.000 That is the depth, that was the depth of a country, and these individuals as well, in negative asset, negative savings position.

01:09:03.000 We are now over a year and a half into that, and the numbers haven't been released because they come out every two years.

01:09:11.000 That's when the Feds release those.

01:09:14.000 But we'll be finding out soon.

01:09:16.000 And it's clear that it's only getting deeper.

01:09:18.000 So, credit cards are all coming due.

01:09:20.000 Big banks are reporting.

01:09:23.000 I mean, I literally have probably a hundred articles here in front of me, and I would imagine ten, fifteen of them.

01:09:28.000 I didn't count them.

01:09:29.000 Are about how Bank of America, Wachovia, on and on and on and on and on.

01:09:33.000 Bank of America, third largest bank in the U.S.

01:09:35.000 Global bank.

01:09:37.000 But a customer bank.

01:09:38.000 Retail bank.

01:09:40.000 They are reporting zero profits for last year.

01:09:45.000 Um, zero profits.

01:09:47.000 And their stock's going down, and you can bet your bottom dollar, those are cookbooks as well, because of credit card defaults.

01:09:54.000 And as we go into the middle of 2008, that's when the credit card defaults really accelerate.

01:09:58.000 And you look at the 2009, it's many times worse than it will be in the middle of this year.

01:10:03.000 So it isn't just the debt unraveling on the subprime mortgages, the bad loans, the jumbo loans.

01:10:10.000 It's just everywhere.

01:10:13.000 Meanwhile, we're talking a trillion dollars a year plus for the military.

01:10:20.000 Uh

01:10:22.000 uh... the government is racing ahead spending billions per major city i mean billions was like five billion they spent one year in boston a couple years ago two billion in new york five hundred some million dollars but that was only for cameras and microphones then we added up the rest of money was over a billion for spying tracking police being issued systems that look through walls license plate reading scanners on top cars government is spending wildly everywhere telling uh... the banks telling the insurance companies telling

01:10:51.000 Uh, the apartments that don't enforce, let the illegals not have IDs, but enforce on citizens. 0.97

01:10:56.000 I mean, it is all by design a mass raping. 0.61

01:11:00.000 What do you do if you're a cop?

01:11:04.000 You're making $35,000 a year if you're lucky.

01:11:07.000 What, a new cop's making about $30,000.

01:11:08.000 A guy's been in 4, 5, 6 years, maybe $35,000.

01:11:11.000 Been in there a decade, you're making $40,000 or you're a senior person, maybe $50,000.

01:11:17.000 $50,000, you could live pretty good on that.

01:11:20.000 I mean, you can go back to the old story about how my parents, my mom's parents, I think they bought a house for like $3,000, $4,000 in Hyde Park, Austin, a nice three-bedroom home, and when I saw that thing sell, it hadn't been in the family in decades, but when I saw it sell, I happened to see it Online, and when it's sold, it's sold for over a million dollars.

01:11:45.000 That is devaluation in the currency.

01:11:47.000 A three-bedroom home, of course it is in a trendy area, in Hyde Park, Austin, one million dollars.

01:11:56.000 This is not New York.

01:11:57.000 This is not San Francisco.

01:11:58.000 This is not Hollywood.

01:12:00.000 This is not the Hamptons in New York.

01:12:03.000 This is Austin, Texas.

01:12:04.000 That is fiat.

01:12:06.000 That house Again, it was $3,000 back in the 50's.

01:12:13.000 And how much is it today?

01:12:15.000 I remember them telling me the value of the house was like $3,000 when they moved into it.

01:12:22.000 The point is that that's the type of things that are going on.

01:12:26.000 I remember buying a new Mustang when I was a senior in high school.

01:12:35.000 With money I'd saved and then my dad gave me part of the down payment.

01:12:38.000 I remember buying a brand new green 8-cylinder Mustang that would go, you know, 165 miles an hour and boy did I have fun with it.

01:12:46.000 I never drove that fast, wink wink.

01:12:48.000 I remember buying that for like $12,000.

01:12:53.000 Folks, that was only, let me see, I'm 33, I'm 34 in a couple days, February 11th.

01:13:01.000 So that was 3, 10, and 2.

01:13:05.000 Fifteen years ago, I bought a Mustang for $12,000 fully loaded with leather seats.

01:13:17.000 Do you know how much a Mustang is?

01:13:19.000 Do you know how much it cost?

01:13:21.000 I happened to see a loaded Mustang in a parking lot, well let me think of this, a few months ago, and guess how much it cost? $30,000!

01:13:34.000 That is a more than doubling in 15 years.

01:13:41.000 Now, you're maxed out on your credit cards.

01:13:43.000 You've got two mortgages.

01:13:43.000 You've been living off of that.

01:13:45.000 You thought the value in your home and the growth of it would get you out of the hole you're in.

01:13:52.000 Everything's going up.

01:13:53.000 Everything is more expensive.

01:13:55.000 Everything.

01:13:57.000 I mean, I was in Dallas taking, you know, the people who were interviewing out to dinner just to mid-level restaurants that would have been $20 a plate Five years ago, because I've been to those restaurants, and it was $30, $35 a plate.

01:14:09.000 I was shocked.

01:14:11.000 We'd go to a cheap barbecue place the next night to save money.

01:14:14.000 A plate of barbecue would be $16, $17.

01:14:18.000 I'm talking about some barbecue beans, some coleslaw, some brisket, and some sausage!

01:14:24.000 That's just basic money!

01:14:27.000 My business!

01:14:28.000 Tons of money comes in.

01:14:30.000 Ninety-something percent of it goes out.

01:14:33.000 I try to save a little just so if everything went to hell in a handbasket I could keep people employed for two or three months.

01:14:39.000 But at least I'm not fully leveraged out in debt.

01:14:42.000 I'm not in a great position and I'm in a heavenly position compared to some people.

01:14:46.000 Because I don't really take vacations and don't wear fancy clothes and things like that.

01:14:54.000 I got a little bit of money saved for my children.

01:14:58.000 You know, putting $200, $300 back a month for them for years, for five, six years.

01:15:02.000 And what do I have?

01:15:05.000 A paltry sum in a bank account that's been devalued since I started saving by 60%!

01:15:13.000 I got gold in a safety deposit box.

01:15:17.000 But they can come and take that anytime.

01:15:20.000 But you sure can't have it on you because somebody will break in and take it.

01:15:24.000 And even that much gold!

01:15:26.000 Enough to run this business for a month!

01:15:30.000 And imagine, it's everywhere!

01:15:32.000 It's everybody!

01:15:34.000 And as things get worse and worse, heaven help us!

01:15:38.000 What are you going to do as the dollar is being devalued?

01:15:40.000 Even if it stays the same.

01:15:41.000 If inflation stays the same.

01:15:42.000 But it's compound.

01:15:45.000 I know my grandmother didn't have a lot of money when my grandfather got so sick he had to be put in a nursing home because, you know, he had all these strokes and heart attacks.

01:15:54.000 And she had a little bit of savings, but she had to basically spend that, give it away to charity, because she couldn't afford to put him in the nursing home when he was going to live more than just a few years.

01:16:02.000 He did die about a year later.

01:16:04.000 And so she spent a little bit of money she had, so that Medicare and Medicaid would pay for him at a decent place.

01:16:11.000 And God loved my uncle and my aunt.

01:16:13.000 They did go see him every day.

01:16:14.000 He was out of town in Atlanta, so I could only go see him every few months.

01:16:21.000 But she's living on social security folks and she buys nothing except a little bit of food her little house is paid for and she doesn't have any money anymore because for at least four years it's been over 10% inflation a year and they only increase her check by 2% a year.

01:16:37.000 She got a 40 plus percent reduction in the buying power of her social security check.

01:16:42.000 She worked her whole life until she was like 70 years old at a local print company here in Austin.

01:16:51.000 And she doesn't have anything.

01:16:54.000 And the money she's got in the bank was down to like $5,000. 0.99

01:16:58.000 That's all she had in the world.

01:17:05.000 And I want to be able to take care of her and I'm not even in a proper position down the road to take care of her.

01:17:13.000 That's why I told my dad he better hustle and get some money in.

01:17:16.000 He doesn't have that much and he's a successful oral surgeon and dentist.

01:17:21.000 After he pays 40% taxes?

01:17:25.000 Again, I said I'd take your calls.

01:17:26.000 It's just I'm telling you personally what my life's like, and I'm in a better position than most of the yuppies I know in the middle class neighborhood I live in.

01:17:34.000 I talk to them and they talk about how, yeah, they don't own their house, and they don't own their cars, and they're laying people off.

01:17:40.000 You know, one guy works at a food service, you know, delivery company.

01:17:45.000 Not Cisco, it's the other one.

01:17:46.000 He's a high-level manager, but he's up for retirement.

01:17:51.000 And he isn't even sure if he can keep living the lifestyle he lives in.

01:17:56.000 And that's people that are in good positions.

01:18:02.000 That's people that, I mean, most people I know, and all the college people I know, are indebted to their eyeballs, they have nothing, they have no future, and we're going into a long, dark winter, as Dr. Paul Craig Roberts said.

01:18:18.000 Jerry, David, Aaron, Jeannie, Bob, we're going to get to you.

01:18:23.000 You'll also get to talk to Bob Chapman, a lot of you.

01:18:24.000 We're going to have to open phones when he's on with us.

01:18:27.000 International forecaster.

01:18:32.000 But, even if it just continues this slide, what is it going to do to all the elderly?

01:18:37.000 The people who paid their whole lives into Social Security, and Social Security is being destroyed by inflation.

01:18:46.000 What are they going to do?

01:18:47.000 What are we going to do?

01:18:49.000 And it's all the stinking New World Order.

01:18:53.000 It is a big idea.

01:18:55.000 A New World Order.

01:18:57.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful group of Dark Lords.

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01:23:02.000 Thanks for holding her on the air.

01:23:03.000 Welcome.

01:23:05.000 Hey, Alex.

01:23:05.000 How's it going, buddy?

01:23:07.000 Oh, well, pretty crazy times.

01:23:09.000 Alright, I just want to plug a couple of things.

01:23:12.000 Thanks to everybody for the Martin Luther King money bomb yesterday.

01:23:15.000 It was a success, regardless of whether anybody thinks it was or not.

01:23:19.000 Well, I mean, what other politician can raise over two million dollars in one day?

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01:23:50.000 Alright, I appreciate that.

01:23:52.000 Yeah, right now is the time to push Ron Paul, regardless.

01:23:55.000 He's in the debates, he's educating people about the currency, the evaluation, inflation tax, the New World Order.

01:24:03.000 We're winning the hearts and minds, regardless.

01:24:07.000 We should have done a story.

01:24:08.000 I mean, we posted some at PrisonPlanet.com.

01:24:12.000 But we get desensitized in condition, too, dealing with the fact that Fox News You doing okay today, Alex?

01:24:22.000 They didn't even show what place he came in, and they gave McCain second place when Ron Paul actually won it.

01:24:26.000 He actually won by a percentage point, and they just didn't put him up and just said McCain got second.

01:24:32.000 And the media announced that.

01:24:34.000 I mean, that's a level of lying.

01:24:36.000 David in Texas, you're on the air.

01:24:39.000 Welcome.

01:24:40.000 Go ahead, David.

01:24:43.000 You doing okay today, Alex?

01:24:44.000 Yes, sir.

01:24:45.000 You seem a little more optimistic than you did last week.

01:24:48.000 Listen, I Googled some of your videos just one day.

01:24:51.000 I had some time at work and you had a video, I guess several years old, where you confronted George Bush before, I think it was probably before he was president.

01:25:02.000 You asked him about the CFR and the Federal Reserve and they arrested you and took you out of the room.

01:25:09.000 Is that on one of your films?

01:25:12.000 No, it's not.

01:25:12.000 Or is that just something somebody got a hold of and put it on Google Video?

01:25:16.000 Yes, that is just on the internet.

01:25:19.000 Okay, well anyway, sir, I don't want to take up a lot of your time.

01:25:22.000 I'm looking forward to your next two films.

01:25:24.000 We always get a carload of people from San Antonio and drive them up to Austin to see your films, to see your draft house, but I just want to encourage you, sir.

01:25:31.000 You sounded kind of down last week, and you know, you've got more friends than you think you do, and I just hope you keep up the fight, Alex.

01:25:37.000 You inspired a lot of us, and I don't think you realize that sometimes.

01:25:40.000 Well, God bless you, my friend.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, I'm trying to not make it about me.

01:25:44.000 It's just I'm very upset and freaked out about what's happening.

01:25:48.000 They're doing it all.

01:25:48.000 Mexican government to run a hundred million dollars worth of propaganda ads saying get rid of our borders, total corruption, the grid going in place.

01:25:56.000 I mean, they're destroying the economy.

01:25:58.000 Everything the globalists said they do, they're doing.

01:26:00.000 That means all the rest of the stuff they said they're going to do, they're going to do.

01:26:02.000 I mean, this is serious.

01:26:06.000 Aaron in Ohio.

01:26:07.000 Aaron, you're on the air.

01:26:09.000 Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call.

01:26:11.000 The reason I'm calling is because I've noticed within the past month or so there's been a huge increase in TV and radio commercials where they're offering instant cash if you just send in your old gold.

01:26:20.000 You know they advertise how great it is if you just send it in and get instant cash.

01:26:25.000 I was just wondering if you've noticed this and what your thoughts are on that?

01:26:28.000 Yeah, they give you below spot on most of those for your old rings or necklaces or for your fillings and that's because Gold is only going up in value, and they know, the market believes that it's going to only go up above $1,000 instead of just $900 and something, and so people are getting positioned.

01:26:48.000 Right, right.

01:26:49.000 All right, that's pretty much it.

01:26:50.000 Thanks for taking my call.

01:26:51.000 Thank you, my friend.

01:26:53.000 Let's get another one in here. 1.00

01:26:54.000 Let's talk to Jeannie in Texas. 0.84

01:26:56.000 Jeannie, welcome.

01:26:57.000 Yes, hi.

01:26:58.000 Hi, Alex.

01:26:58.000 How are you?

01:26:59.000 Good.

01:27:00.000 Well, thank you.

01:27:01.000 I was calling in because I'm a loan officer and I heard your information about you need to refinance your house and I'm really a newcomer to the site and everything.

01:27:12.000 I only started really paying much attention to what's going on in the world about September and man have I learned a lot of stuff on the internet, on your site, some of your movies I've downloaded.

01:27:27.000 It's just been amazing.

01:27:29.000 Well, I mean, certainly people who've got loans at 6, 7, 8 percent, you know, years and years ago, they would be crazy right now to not refinance.

01:27:38.000 I mean, it's not as low as it was 3, 4, 5 years ago, but it's certainly going down now.

01:27:44.000 It is going to go down, that's true.

01:27:50.000 I can't believe all the things that I've learned about the CFR and the Illuminati and all these things, all these people trying to take over the world.

01:27:58.000 You've been instrumental in helping me know that and I really appreciate it.

01:28:02.000 I've been spreading the word to my friends and family as well, so hopefully you'll have more and more listeners.

01:28:08.000 Well, we are.

01:28:09.000 The listenership is just exploding.

01:28:11.000 I am an anthem affiliates, internet listenership, shortwave listenership.

01:28:16.000 And we're here just talking about basic info, but a lot of people weren't aware of it.

01:28:20.000 I wasn't aware of it until I began to find out about it years ago.

01:28:23.000 Anything else you'd like to add, Jeannie?

01:28:25.000 Well, I can't use this as an advertising call because there are certain laws that regulate us as mortgage brokers.

01:28:32.000 Tell you what, stay there.

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01:35:27.000 Real fast, Jeannie in Texas, and I'm going to go to Bob Chapman, who I really appreciate joining us.

01:35:31.000 Jeannie, you wanted to finish up something about, I was discussing refinancing.

01:35:35.000 If you got your mortgage at six, seven percent, you'd be crazy to not refinance now, but go ahead.

01:35:41.000 Yes, that is true, and we do that on a daily basis here.

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01:36:02.000 But it's good to have you on board, and I'm glad that you've woken up.

01:36:06.000 I mean, I guess that's the one good thing out of all this is, I guess if you've got a higher interest rate, you can refinance.

01:36:12.000 Okay.

01:36:13.000 Bob Chapman is our guest.

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01:36:35.000 Bob Chapman, thanks for joining us.

01:36:36.000 Well, thank you for having me again at these exciting moments.

01:36:41.000 All right, let me just in layman terms put out what I see, and then I want you to break down the basics and then flesh it out, what you forecast in the next week, the next month, the next year.

01:36:54.000 What's...

01:36:55.000 You guys will...

01:36:56.000 Where the trends are going, Bob.

01:36:59.000 First off, if we have inflation way above 10%, we have now the Fed saying 75 basis points.

01:37:12.000 That's going to further erode the dollars, the World Reserve currency position, even though Even though they did this, the stock market still is down from Friday, of course closed on Martin Luther King Day.

01:37:27.000 My info is the globalists are orchestrating this as a consolidation from the highest levels.

01:37:31.000 The Financial Times of London, of course, are saying that.

01:37:35.000 And that this is a program so that foreign interest can come in and buy up what's left, not just of the US, but Canada, Europe, for pennies on the dollar.

01:37:44.000 But that people from, you know, millionaires up to billionaires, it's still going to hurt most of those individuals.

01:37:52.000 Well, first of all, we predicted that something like this would occur.

01:37:58.000 This is a stopgap measure.

01:38:00.000 The reason why is that they have not been able to solve their credit problem.

01:38:07.000 They have a full-blown recession that's really been coming on for two years.

01:38:11.000 They finally have had to recognize it.

01:38:15.000 And this past weekend, or this past week and weekend, others throughout the world have said, no, this is not going the way that it should.

01:38:26.000 And we're going to be sellers.

01:38:29.000 And yesterday, in several programs that I was on, I said that I felt today, when the market opened in the United States, yes, it would open down 500, and that the working group and financial markets would come into the market either before or just after the opening, and try to keep the loss at between 1 and 200 points on the day.

01:38:50.000 And in the gold market, that they would The goal was off in the excess market which is very thin yesterday 1710 in London it was off about 990 and I predicted that a goal would come in off today and then go to even and end the day either even or up five or ten dollars and this is exactly what's happening.

01:39:15.000 I think that the timing on this was very important to these people You saw the pep talk this morning on CNBC from the U.S.

01:39:25.000 Chamber of Commerce by Paulson, and that was followed by the three-quarter of a point cut.

01:39:30.000 And that was used as an excuse to take the market back up, so to speak. 0.67

01:39:41.000 And the market will probably meander in this area For a couple of days, and then it will start to slowly seep down further until it reaches some level.

01:39:59.000 The earnings that could be coming in this month and next from the past year, they're all not very good.

01:40:08.000 And the second quarter, which will be April, they'll see the earnings from the first quarter, and then they're going to probably be worse.

01:40:17.000 I projected no growth for the U.S.

01:40:19.000 economy for this year, last November, and incidentally, I was right on the year before as well, 4 to 6 percent growth, and the experts said 13 and a half.

01:40:29.000 And so, we have a market that's probably going to base out somewhere between 10,000 and 12,000, for lack of a number, 10,000 to 10,300.

01:40:36.000 for lack of a number, 10,000 to 10,300.

01:40:40.000 And once the bad news is out on the first quarter, the market will consolidate and probably move back a couple of thousand points to the upside on the Dow until the election, unless some untoward event happens.

01:40:56.000 I think that's what their plan is.

01:40:58.000 They knew what they were going to do.

01:41:01.000 Over the weekend and today, and the market being down was a perfect excuse for them to cut three quarters of a percentage point rather than a quarter or a half.

01:41:11.000 Now that's an extreme move.

01:41:14.000 People were predicting a quarter and they did three quarters.

01:41:17.000 That must have meant that they knew that a really strong incentive was there to boost that market.

01:41:23.000 Well, I think they were instrumental in taking the market down.

01:41:28.000 And I think they did it so they could cut off three quarters of a point, because they're in serious trouble.

01:41:34.000 And this cutting of rates is not going to do a great deal.

01:41:41.000 It'll allow business to borrow more cheaply, but it's not going to help the housing market much, because lenders are being much more cautious than they were before.

01:41:50.000 And a president making an $800 per poor family

01:41:56.000 Uh... uh... check uh... uh... to to them so that they can uh... make it through this rough time uh... the uh... the force of that will last uh... three four five months that'll be the end of that well i remember i remember all the inflation it's almost nothing i remember getting a hundred dollar check from bush and my girlfriend got one now my wife at the same time right after nine eleven it was like a joke it's like a mafia boss it's the same thing they do in iraq with planes flying over dropping out

01:42:25.000 100 dollar bills, it's a total gimmick, with massive inflation compounded, really raping people on fixed income, social security, with all the credit card debt starting to come due now and accelerating to the next two years, with all these other debt structures falling apart, AAA rated bonds and corporate paper securities that were filled with junk, I mean, what do you see on the ground?

01:42:51.000 Not just with the markets or dollar value.

01:42:52.000 I mean, things are already bad in the economy.

01:42:55.000 They tried to cover that up, as you said.

01:42:57.000 But the fundamentals are so bad, I mean, I see things deepening.

01:43:03.000 I mean, they tried to say it didn't exist, now they're admitting it exists, so it's accelerating it, and they've gone from two weeks ago not saying that, you know, saying there was no recession, to saying we're in a recession, and it could become a depression.

01:43:14.000 When I start hearing depression on CNN and the McLaughlin Group, I get worried, Mr. Chapman.

01:43:21.000 Well, you should be, and everybody else should be, because that's exactly where we're headed.

01:43:25.000 Again, more stopgap procedures.

01:43:28.000 The economy is going down.

01:43:31.000 I saw for the first time in one of the major news services, they were talking about people who were laid off and had collected checks for unemployment for six months, and they said that they are no longer counted.

01:43:47.000 And, you know, it's the first time I've seen that happen, ever.

01:43:51.000 And that's why my unemployment figures are 14%.

01:43:54.000 And not 5%, because the government lies about everything.

01:43:58.000 The CPI, which is the inflation figures, they're calling it 4.3, and a core of 2.75, and I'm calling 11.6.

01:44:06.000 The Fed won't publish M3, but myself and two others do, and it looks like this month's going to come in somewhere around 15.75 to 16%.

01:44:17.000 That would be for the previous month.

01:44:22.000 And so the money and credit is flowing.

01:44:24.000 Every two weeks they have a $30 billion auction, which the money secretly goes to banks that need help.

01:44:31.000 And what's happening, instead of the money being paid back after 10 or 30 days, whatever the term is, they're just rolling it.

01:44:39.000 And so all this monetization that's going on has got to turn into inflation, which is offsetting some of the deflation that's happening within industry, within the economy, within real estate.

01:44:52.000 And they're going to have to continue to upgrade the amount of money and credit that they create, because if they don't, deflation will grab hold and the whole thing will just drop out.

01:45:06.000 And so they've got to continue to inflate, and gold and silver have got to continue to go up.

01:45:11.000 Exactly.

01:45:12.000 But then when the economy finally stalls, which it's now starting to do, and when all that inflation finally comes home to roost, it makes it that much worse when the jig is up.

01:45:24.000 You're absolutely right.

01:45:25.000 You know, the famous newsletter writer Harry Schultz coined that term stagflation many years ago.

01:45:32.000 It's the stagnation of the economy and inflation at the same time coming out with a new word, stagflation.

01:45:39.000 And that's exactly what we've got already.

01:45:41.000 And it's going to get a heck of a lot worse.

01:45:43.000 And that's why people should do every effort that they can to get out of debt.

01:45:47.000 And if they're going to invest, they should be in gold and silver related assets, because this is just the beginning.

01:45:52.000 We've got a long way to go yet.

01:45:55.000 Yeah, there's a certain sadness I have because even though I knew this was all going to happen every day, every week, every month, as it just confirmed, it looks like we're going down the worst road towards total collapse and depression instead of the better road of just, you know, a long, dark winter and a prolonged four, five, six year deep recession.

01:46:17.000 Every indicator looks like of the two bad roads that we know we're going down, it's going to be the worst of the two.

01:46:24.000 I agree with you, and you know, I have the same feelings, but after almost 50 years of doing this, I put my heart in my back pocket, and my sympathy there as well, and continue to just report the facts and the truth of what's going on.

01:46:39.000 Because if I stop to think of it just like you just did, I get morose, because it's a nasty situation.

01:46:48.000 Meanwhile, still a lot of mainline yuppies and you know the types, the know-it-all, the types that you tell them, hey, you know, kids are dying in Africa and they say, how does that affect me?

01:46:58.000 You know, they're on power trips.

01:47:00.000 They still have no idea that they're dancing around in a minefield.

01:47:04.000 They're making no preparation.

01:47:07.000 They see people losing jobs all around them and they just giggle about it in a weird, competitive way.

01:47:11.000 I don't think they understand.

01:47:12.000 We're talking about near total wipeout if this trend continues.

01:47:15.000 And that's not just Bob Chatman.

01:47:17.000 It's, of course, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:47:20.000 It's Joseph Stiklitz.

01:47:21.000 I mean, this is the real brains.

01:47:23.000 They're all in unison saying this.

01:47:26.000 Well, my daughter.

01:47:28.000 is giving talks to her children 8, 9, 10, 11 years old and telling them about the 1930s and we have to be prepared for that sort of a scenario so that's what you should be doing with your children and grandchildren and your grown children who aren't listening because what's going to happen is they're going to be totally unprepared they're going to go bankrupt they're going to lose their cars and their homes and everything else

01:47:56.000 If they don't get on their horses and learn what is going on and do something to combat it now.

01:48:02.000 And speaking of now, here is the perfect candidate, the perfect time.

01:48:07.000 God always gives people a chance to do the right thing.

01:48:12.000 And you talk about lying.

01:48:14.000 I'm seeing lying reach biblical proportions.

01:48:17.000 Ron Paul won by a full percentage point.

01:48:22.000 In Nevada, that is, he won second place by a full percentage point, and Fox and CNN and the rest of them, I have screenshots, didn't even show him and said McCain was second place, and then didn't even mention Paul.

01:48:35.000 I mean, we're entering a vortex of lies that shows me the government and the media have decided to go absolutely corrupt, Mr. Chapman.

01:48:45.000 Well, they certainly are, and they have, in their arrogance, lost all touch with the people.

01:48:52.000 They are on a genuine imperial power trip, and there's no stopping them.

01:48:59.000 I mean, they're going to take this right to the end.

01:49:01.000 They're going to crash this economy, and they think they can get out of it.

01:49:04.000 I've got news for them.

01:49:06.000 There's too many people out there who suspect and know what they've been doing, and there's going to be a time for retribution.

01:49:14.000 I agree.

01:49:15.000 Hitler did it. 0.98

01:49:16.000 So many others have done it.

01:49:17.000 They just think they're invincible.

01:49:19.000 And I think they can consolidate and pull these games and rape everybody.

01:49:24.000 What happens when the yuppies, Bob, find out that they've had their dollar value destroyed?

01:49:27.000 I think probably most of them will sit down and cry because they've had a bad day in their life.

01:49:36.000 And then they're going to come try to loot our houses.

01:49:40.000 I wouldn't recommend that.

01:49:42.000 Because people like us are well prepared.

01:49:45.000 That's right.

01:49:46.000 Any of you yuppies try to come bustin' down my door for my food, You threaten my family, I'm going to lay you down right there on the doorstep. 0.99

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01:53:24.000 Bob Chapman's our guest.

01:53:24.000 He's going to be with us into the next hour.

01:53:26.000 We're going to go to your calls.

01:53:27.000 Bob and Joe and Derek and Jake and Jack and many others that are patiently holding at 1-800-259-9231.

01:53:39.000 Bob, we really should reintroduce you, because some of my audience may not know who you are.

01:53:42.000 Why don't you spend a minute or so just telling us about your evolution, military intelligence, and then getting into stock market, you know, gold brokering, a financial writer, biggest newsletter, back in the age of newsletters, that's a big deal, biggest financial newsletter in the world.

01:53:57.000 Just spend about 60 seconds on that, then I've got more questions.

01:54:01.000 Well, I grew up in Boston, went to university at Northeastern, was in counterintelligence I spent several years doing that.

01:54:11.000 I went into the stock brokerage business.

01:54:14.000 I was there for 28 years specializing in gold and silver related assets, gold and silver shares.

01:54:24.000 And I owned my own firm for a number of years.

01:54:27.000 When I retired, I had 6,000 clients.

01:54:29.000 The average broker has about 200 or 300.

01:54:32.000 And after a very short term of retirement, which I called the end at 52 years old, The last 18 or 19 years I've been producing the International Forecaster and we've had great success.

01:54:47.000 I'm very happy that we've been able to help a lot of people and hope we can continue to do so.

01:54:54.000 Bob, and I want to get technical in the next hour and take calls, but right now, just in basics for laymen out there, what do you see?

01:55:03.000 I mean, you've laid out the next 11 months, 12 months into the next election.

01:55:09.000 But in the next two years, three years, four years, how long... Dr. Roberts thinks it's going to be a long, dark winter just slowly sliding as they consolidate power and wealth, and that the globalists do believe they can control it.

01:55:22.000 I mean, that's, again, what major financial papers are saying and admitting.

01:55:26.000 But a lot of people are saying it's so bad they can't control it.

01:55:29.000 I mean, what are people going to do on the ground who literally are becoming homeless?

01:55:37.000 I don't have an answer for the people who are Homeless are in that track because the damage has been done. 1.00

01:55:46.000 I think their families and friends have to help them.

01:55:51.000 That's the only way out for them.

01:55:53.000 The opportunities to get jobs are very, very small.

01:55:57.000 And now it's very affecting educated people, college degrees, who leave a job or lose a job for whatever reason.

01:56:08.000 They are finding that they can't get re-employed, particularly if they're over 40 years old.

01:56:13.000 You know, companies just don't want you anymore.

01:56:17.000 And we have this continual offshoring and outsourcing, not only in manufacturing, but now we've got it at the higher levels of employment, jobs that are paying anywhere between $60,000 and $200,000.

01:56:29.000 You were talking about radiologists and attorneys and accountants and many, many professional

01:56:37.000 uh... areas so uh... this is all coming at exactly the wrong time and of course we don't have any tariffs so uh... other countries continue uh... to devalue their currency so they can continue to send inexpensive goods to the united states at the same time they're importing inflation that other countries don't care about and uh... until we stop them from doing that They're going to continue to slaughter our economy.

01:57:07.000 And the only way to stop that is to put up tariffs.

01:57:11.000 And we had tariffs since 1800.

01:57:14.000 And it made America a very strong country because we didn't allow the Chinese in 1795 to send brooms in that cost them five cents to make that they could sell at a dollar. 0.70

01:57:27.000 We wouldn't allow that.

01:57:28.000 Bob, stay there.

01:57:29.000 We'll be back in 70 seconds.

01:57:35.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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01:58:07.000 We are now into the third and final hour.

01:58:09.000 I want to go over some headlines with Bob Chapman, and your calls will be in the next segment, I promise, for everyone patiently holding.

01:58:15.000 I was talking to Bob during the break, and he concurred that there are elite factions that are trying to And didn't want to pop the real estate bubble to start this unraveling so they can consolidate, so they can come in with their foreign currencies and buy up the infrastructure.

01:58:28.000 Bob, what happens now that the credit card debts are starting to come due?

01:58:31.000 What happens?

01:58:33.000 I mean, you say that things could, you know, just continue their slow slide into the end of the year.

01:58:39.000 What's the percentage, you know, guesstimation, debt reckoning on that versus... I think at any time it could just implode even faster.

01:58:47.000 I mean, what's the possibility of that?

01:58:50.000 Well, we don't know that.

01:58:51.000 It is possible.

01:58:53.000 It's probable.

01:58:54.000 But we just can't say that.

01:58:55.000 We have to look at the fundamental facts that we have, and we have to look at the mosaic that's put together by what these people have done in the past.

01:59:04.000 And that's why I was projecting what I did with the market and then with the economy.

01:59:09.000 As you mentioned, there's big consolidations going on, and this real estate market was taken up, and now it's being deliberately taken back down again.

01:59:18.000 And they did it through what they call a credit crisis.

01:59:21.000 And what's happening is very obvious in the retail real estate industry.

01:59:29.000 And we haven't come anywhere near the bottom yet in the 30 form of hot areas.

01:59:34.000 We're looking at 35 to 40 percent losses from the top.

01:59:38.000 And we've only experienced about 15.

01:59:40.000 So we've got a couple of years to go on that.

01:59:42.000 Plus the subprime also loans.

01:59:46.000 And then we've got the option loans coming after them.

01:59:48.000 So, this is not going to go away for four or five years.

01:59:52.000 But, one of the interesting things here is, why was that done?

01:59:57.000 It was done to consolidate the mortgage industry within the banking industry.

02:00:01.000 You know, Morgan takes over WAMU, and Bank of America takes over Countrywide, and there's been 211 mortgage companies that have gone out of business.

02:00:13.000 They want all the business.

02:00:15.000 Second of all, you're going to see the big hitters, the real big hitters, a lot of money from outside the country coming in to take advantage of the commercial real estate market.

02:00:24.000 In just six months, the commercial real estate market has dropped from 15 to 25 percent, depending upon where you're at.

02:00:33.000 And that's because people just can't get any money to make deals.

02:00:37.000 And so it'll continue to slide along with the retail market when it reaches what they, the people who cause these things, To a bottom that they're looking for, and they'll just waltz in and buy everything.

02:00:51.000 Again, creating an economic climate where it's a fire sale.

02:00:56.000 Exactly.

02:00:57.000 And they'll do the same thing with the stock market, too.

02:01:00.000 Yes, they'll hold it perhaps above $10,000 before the year's out, and there can be an untoward event that'll happen that could cause that to blow up, but assuming that we don't have that event, this will go on into next year, and the market will probably go down to, on the Dow basis, 7,286, which was the bottom in 2.001, and that will be tested.

02:01:24.000 And if it doesn't get any better, which I don't think it will, we'll be heading for 4,000 to 4,500.

02:01:30.000 These pension plans are going to get ravaged.

02:01:33.000 Meanwhile, government spending like it's going out of style on police state apparatus.

02:01:42.000 Well, not only that, they think $800 is going to help families.

02:01:46.000 Yeah, it'll help a little bit for a couple of weeks, and that's the end of it.

02:01:49.000 Now, that's a political ploy, just like it was when you received your check way back when.

02:01:53.000 $100, and it said, from George Bush.

02:01:59.000 I mean, what?

02:01:59.000 I'd like to get his autograph.

02:02:03.000 I tell you, Bob, when we come back, I want to go directly to the calls, and then any other subjects and issues you want to talk about.

02:02:09.000 What are some of the other points that we need to make that you haven't gotten to yet?

02:02:14.000 Well, I think we've covered a lot of the economic parts.

02:02:17.000 I can go into the guts of really why this is happening.

02:02:19.000 I can do it very simply.

02:02:21.000 All right.

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02:06:09.000 Bottom line, the global elite control the central banks of the world, except in a few nations, third world nations, that they call rogue nations.

02:06:18.000 They could create a wall, a tsunami of credit and currency that they could then get people leveraged out and pull the rug out from under them and consolidate everything.

02:06:29.000 They have the power to do it.

02:06:30.000 They have done it.

02:06:32.000 Now they want to incrementally pull the rug out so you don't get mad at them or realize what's happening.

02:06:38.000 They've openly stated that.

02:06:39.000 Again, we have their own IMF World Bank documents.

02:06:42.000 They're doing it now.

02:06:44.000 The question is, how deep will it get?

02:06:45.000 Can they keep control of it?

02:06:47.000 You were about to go to the calls, but you said you could simply, Bob, boil down the mechanics, the bottom line reasons that this is unfolding.

02:06:56.000 Well, they learned in the early 1930s that you can't withdraw money and credit from the system because it just collapses.

02:07:03.000 And so, no matter what they do, they will continue to inflate as long as they can, because on the other side of the equation, you get deflation.

02:07:11.000 You've got the values of commercial and retail real estate coming down.

02:07:16.000 You've got a credit crisis.

02:07:18.000 You've got manufacturing coming apart at the seams.

02:07:22.000 We're losing all of our manufacturing in our markets and have been for some years, and we've already lost over five million jobs.

02:07:30.000 And so they see that going in the deflationary area, and so they must offset it.

02:07:38.000 And that's why I was quoting those figures before.

02:07:40.000 With the creation of money and credit at around approximately 16 percent, inflation at 11.6 percent, unemployment really at 14 percent.

02:07:51.000 These are the important factors that are going to lead into that.

02:07:55.000 And what caused all this?

02:07:57.000 The U.S.

02:07:58.000 Federal Reserve.

02:07:59.000 Who participated in it?

02:08:00.000 The banks.

02:08:02.000 Wall Street.

02:08:03.000 In the case of real estate, the mortgage industry, the appraisers, and the borrowers.

02:08:09.000 85 to 95 percent of all the applications were full of lies.

02:08:13.000 And so, there's fraud all the way down the line.

02:08:16.000 And the regulators... We live in a corrupt society.

02:08:19.000 A corrupt society, you're right.

02:08:20.000 And the regulators allowed that to happen, knowing that that would happen.

02:08:24.000 I mean, I use the analogy of when I was in college and had no money, literally in a cockroach-infested one-room apartment, And I would get credit cards four or five times a week in the mail.

02:08:32.000 Now that I'm not in big debt, and do make a little bit of money, I get a credit card every once a month.

02:08:37.000 I mean, because they were issuing credit out of nothing, why not get me on the line?

02:08:41.000 Bob, what are they going to do, though, as especially people on fixed incomes, Social Security and whatnot, they can't hide the inflation there if it goes from 10 to 16% in a year, maybe up to 20, as this accelerates.

02:08:54.000 How are they going to hide that when old people are out on the street everywhere? 1.00

02:08:59.000 Well, they're not going to be able to, and that's why probably they're constructing and refurbishing all of these internment camps that they have throughout the country.

02:09:09.000 And they'll probably put them in there.

02:09:12.000 Well, that's what the Pentagon plans from REC 84 said, a huge economic downturn, and that's their excuse to move, and that's what a lot of experts like Dr. Roberts and others are saying, that he thinks that they know it's going to happen, and they want to use this to bring in an even greater police state.

02:09:27.000 Well, I agree with that.

02:09:29.000 And that means that sometime during that course of time that maybe the yuppies will wake up and maybe we'll have to do something about what the government's doing.

02:09:40.000 They still giggle at us.

02:09:41.000 They still say there's no inflation.

02:09:43.000 I've seen stuff on TV where stockbrokers are laughing and saying the dollar's fine.

02:09:49.000 Well, their attitude will change. 0.96

02:09:51.000 As the economy gets more difficult, and they will start searching for answers, and since they're not dumb, they're just full of arrogance.

02:10:00.000 Ron Paul is on the Dallas Morning News, says Ron Paul blames Federal Reserve for weakening economy, and I mean, here's the perfect guy who has plans, as you said you agree with his look, I mean, he's gotten all these awards for his economic theorem, but the country and the corrupt system is going to probably reject him.

02:10:20.000 Well, that's possible.

02:10:22.000 I think one of the best things that can happen is if Mr. Bloomberg runs.

02:10:27.000 And that would split the Democratic side.

02:10:31.000 And if Ron Paul is shunned by the Republican establishment, then he could go, too, if he chose.

02:10:39.000 That's right.

02:10:40.000 And then he'd have a real shot at getting elected.

02:10:43.000 That's right.

02:10:43.000 You've got to stay behind Ron Paul, folks.

02:10:45.000 We've got a lot of aces in the hole, a lot of things that can happen.

02:10:48.000 Even if he loses, he still injects real issues into the debate.

02:10:52.000 Do you agree, Bob?

02:10:53.000 Absolutely.

02:10:54.000 He's exposing all of the things that you'll never see in the national media.

02:10:59.000 Bob in Delaware.

02:11:00.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman.

02:11:01.000 Thanks for holding.

02:11:04.000 Wanted to thank you for everything that you do.

02:11:06.000 I don't think people realize the risk that you take every day just doing what you do.

02:11:11.000 I'm pretty sure that you've heard about the Harvard's little tiny microbot fly.

02:11:16.000 It's only about as big as your finger.

02:11:18.000 They're actually going to be putting it in the New York Museum of Modern Art February 24th, and now that they're getting funding from DARPA because they want to use it as a surveillance project.

02:11:30.000 Well, that's only one university.

02:11:32.000 MIT's got these all sorts of hover drones, tiny drones, the total surveillance.

02:11:39.000 Bob Chavin, I know you're aware that they're shifting over now.

02:11:43.000 No longer electrical engineering or history or education.

02:11:47.000 It's all just going to be spies, and the economy is just going to be a predatory economy with tattletales and jackboots everywhere.

02:11:55.000 Well, I agree with that, and I do have hand-printed published information on these new devices that they have where they can watch people.

02:12:04.000 And you can look at England and Denmark, they're already quite advanced.

02:12:10.000 And the-- Finland.

02:12:13.000 Finland's really bad.

02:12:14.000 OK, anything else, Bob, in Delaware?

02:12:17.000 No, that's all.

02:12:18.000 Thanks for having me on, Alex.

02:12:19.000 Appreciate everything you do.

02:12:20.000 Thank you.

02:12:20.000 Joe in Wisconsin.

02:12:22.000 Go ahead, Joe.

02:12:23.000 Hello, Alex.

02:12:24.000 Hello, Bob.

02:12:24.000 I got a question for both of you.

02:12:27.000 I just built an interactive graph for the New Hampshire primaries and I'm just wondering what is the best use of my skills to expose the new world order?

02:12:36.000 I could throw up a webpage and say, graph the results for yourself and people could look at it and say, ah, this is what they're doing to me.

02:12:45.000 The second would be for Alex.

02:12:48.000 More like your message to the future, just advice to the future.

02:12:52.000 What would be the best case scenario for a family starting off in life?

02:12:57.000 How would you keep your sanity?

02:12:59.000 How would you reassure and comfort one another?

02:13:01.000 Okay, first off, if you were starting a family, I would learn that you don't need all the baubles and trinkets of success.

02:13:08.000 What you need is security.

02:13:10.000 So try to live in a small house, rural area, or outside a city if you could, and commute.

02:13:16.000 Uh, not have a bunch of baubles and junk and plasma screens.

02:13:19.000 We don't have the money.

02:13:20.000 Don't eat out a lot.

02:13:22.000 Teach your children, instead of about Santa Claus who's fake, teach them about the New World Order.

02:13:26.000 Teach them about corruption.

02:13:27.000 Teach them that family comes first. 0.93

02:13:29.000 Yes, have a credit card, but make sure you pay it off every month.

02:13:31.000 more than all the gold in the hills, having true community, and really getting your head screwed on, not fighting with your husband and wife.

02:13:38.000 Realize the world is against you.

02:13:40.000 The last thing you need is the husband and wife fighting. 1.00

02:13:43.000 You've been trained societally to do that because a divided house will fall.

02:13:46.000 Bob Chapman, your advice?

02:13:48.000 Well, I think everybody should start off by, yes, have a credit card, but make sure you pay it off every month.

02:13:55.000 It's the most expensive form of debt, And I understand now that the average card is over 20%.

02:14:03.000 And that's something you don't need.

02:14:05.000 And you save your money so that you can buy furniture or buy a house and have a decent down payment of 15 or 20%.

02:14:14.000 That's the way it used to be a very, very short time ago.

02:14:18.000 And that's the best way to start planning.

02:14:23.000 And what about changing lifestyles?

02:14:25.000 I mean, if you've got an MP3 player from four years ago, you don't need the newest one that holds 10,000 songs.

02:14:30.000 The one you've got that holds 1,000 is enough.

02:14:34.000 You ain't gonna listen to so much music.

02:14:37.000 Okay, let's go ahead and talk to Derek in New York.

02:14:40.000 Derek, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

02:14:42.000 Hello.

02:14:42.000 Yes.

02:14:42.000 Hi, it's an honor to speak to both of you.

02:14:46.000 First of all, I'd like to touch on the subject of China, and what I've observed recently is that the World Elite have been splitting into two groups, specifically one based in the US, that is mainly Bush and his cronies, and the other would be based in the Democratic Party.

02:15:03.000 But they are solely moving everything to China, and I'd like to hear what Bob has to say about that first, and I'd just like to touch on something else in a little bit, if possible.

02:15:11.000 Well, I don't think that there's much difference between both parties.

02:15:16.000 The Illuminati runs things from behind the scenes, and they either have

02:15:21.000 uh... compromised uh... are are representatives or uh... they have uh... bought them off and they will do that with campaign contributions well i don't need so much as just politicians but i think the global elite is almost two shooting factions and one that has now taken over the united states and the other it's it's a global thing it i'm not just talking about the united states but specifically in the united states is the democratic party and

02:15:49.000 Look, the New World Order made the decision because China has a one-child policy and has played ball to move industry there, but only so they could wage war on the West and blow out all their competition. 0.96

02:15:59.000 That's the first major phase of the game, Bob.

02:16:03.000 I agree, and it also goes further than that.

02:16:05.000 Your concept is right, but it's not the Democratic Party.

02:16:09.000 It's the all-line families in Europe versus the United States, the families in the United States. 0.96

02:16:17.000 And a good example of that is the Iran situation.

02:16:21.000 If you go back almost two years, you can read what Brzezinski said, and he represents the European faction, about how Washington messed up Iran so bad it set world government back 50 years.

02:16:35.000 And so they said, through Brzezinski, we don't want Iran invaded.

02:16:40.000 And so there is a conflict going on there.

02:16:42.000 And it's not just about Iran, at least.

02:16:44.000 And by the way, it was the European faction three years ago that made the decision to pop the real estate bubble to bring down the US and the Anglo-American-British-US arm.

02:16:54.000 Now, at certain levels, you can say they're actually nexus together, but it does, from all the indicators, like you said, the mosaic, Bob, appear that there is an inner Anglo-American-slash-European combat. 0.59

02:17:04.000 Yes, there is.

02:17:06.000 It's one-upmanship, if you may.

02:17:06.000 Exactly.

02:17:09.000 Well, not only that, but specifically in China now, If you notice, the huge economic boom in China, and just everything in Asia, everything seems to be moving towards Asia.

02:17:21.000 And right now, honestly, if we were to go to war with China, which seems very likely in the next 10 years or so, they'd be able to hold their own. 0.94

02:17:30.000 You understand what I mean?

02:17:31.000 Yeah, but the globalists create false bipolar systems to play them off against each other.

02:17:36.000 We'll get Bob's take on that as well in the next segment, right here on the GCN Radio Network.

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02:23:29.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chris in Idaho.

02:23:32.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman.

02:23:33.000 Hi, thank you gentlemen, first of all, for all that you do.

02:23:38.000 Thank you, go ahead.

02:23:42.000 First of all, you touched earlier on the mortgage issue, Alex, and I represent a software program that helps cancel mortgage interest And it's my understanding that it's endorsed by G. Edward Griffin.

02:23:58.000 So you're calling in to plug it?

02:24:00.000 Well, no, not exactly.

02:24:02.000 I wanted to know what your guys' thoughts were about that, if you've done any research on it.

02:24:08.000 No, if G. Edward Griffin endorses it, and I can see that, I'm all for it.

02:24:12.000 I mean, what's on your mind?

02:24:12.000 But go ahead and plug it.

02:24:14.000 Well, in my humble opinion, and a limited amount of research that I've done, It's my understanding that, you know, that type of a mechanism to be able to cancel a mortgage interest without interrupting a person's lifestyle is really what it does.

02:24:29.000 Well, I mean, is that just a program to tell you how much extra to pay to basically get rid of a lot of it?

02:24:34.000 No, no.

02:24:35.000 It's actually more of a... It's like creating a self-directed arbitrage, essentially.

02:24:40.000 I'm ignorant.

02:24:42.000 Why don't you explain it to me? 0.71

02:24:44.000 Well, in simple terms, There's a product that's been used widely throughout Europe and Australia called the Current Account Mortgage.

02:24:54.000 Okay, Bob, do you know what this is?

02:24:57.000 I've heard about it, yes.

02:24:59.000 Well, I did some extensive research.

02:25:02.000 It's based on the concept that they use over in Europe and Australia called a Current Account Mortgage, also known as an Offset Mortgage.

02:25:10.000 A balloon payment?

02:25:13.000 No, it's more, again, The way that it's designed, let me see if I can explain this concisely.

02:25:21.000 The way that it works is, the way that the account works over there is they take your, there's an umbrella account known as the current account mortgage.

02:25:34.000 You keep your mortgage account and all of your short-term liquid funds under that umbrella.

02:25:39.000 And what they do on a monthly basis is they superimpose the balance of the Bob, what do you think of this?

02:25:44.000 I'd have to know more about it.

02:25:45.000 I just don't know.

02:25:46.000 over their outstanding mortgage balance, thereby offsetting a portion of their mortgage balance and canceling the interest they would otherwise pay.

02:25:53.000 Bob, what do you think of this?

02:25:54.000 I'd have to know more about it.

02:25:57.000 Yeah, yeah, send me more info.

02:25:57.000 I just don't know.

02:25:58.000 But, you know, Edgar is a friend of mine since 1964, so I would assume he's done his homework on it.

02:26:06.000 He says it's good.

02:26:06.000 I'm all for it.

02:26:07.000 Well, we have to see if that's the case.

02:26:09.000 Sergius, send me some info.

02:26:10.000 Thank you for the call.

02:26:11.000 Let's go ahead now and take another call.

02:26:13.000 We've got to move quick here.

02:26:15.000 Leo in Mass.

02:26:16.000 You're on the air.

02:26:17.000 Go ahead.

02:26:18.000 Hi, Mr. Chairman.

02:26:19.000 I'm glad to hear you on.

02:26:20.000 I've been really worried about the fact that we don't get a good economics background in school, like the free hours.

02:26:29.000 And I think the only way to really do this quickly Would be to have an update of monopoly combined with risk.

02:26:37.000 I would call it crashing the market game.

02:26:40.000 And, you know, that we've got to teach people quickly about the games that are going on with their lives.

02:26:46.000 And if we create a board game that can be updatable, that would be a really great way of educating people quickly.

02:26:54.000 And that was my main concern.

02:26:55.000 My other concern is, I hear that 80% of the stock market is institutional.

02:27:00.000 However, Seventy percent of spending is consumer-directed.

02:27:04.000 So, I'm wondering how we can, you know, juxtapose these and work it out.

02:27:09.000 Alright, let me get Bob's take on that.

02:27:11.000 Anything else?

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02:30:55.000 All right, Bob Chapman with his final segment.

02:31:10.000 More news and info coming up after that.

02:31:15.000 Before we go to Leo, Rob, Tim, Fred, and Britt, that'll be our last calls that we have time to take.

02:31:22.000 I wanted to go back to Bob Chappin.

02:31:24.000 Bob, any other key points that need to be added?

02:31:26.000 Anything else we should be looking for in the markets?

02:31:29.000 I mean, my question to you is, clearly I believe that they know this is just a salve, 800 bucks per family, freezing mortgages, because the inflation is what's really hurting everybody, but the public hasn't been educated on that concept, so they don't understand.

02:31:45.000 They just know suddenly their check doesn't go as far, so it looks like putting perfume on a pig to me.

02:31:52.000 Well, if they freeze mortgages, it's not going to make the problem go away.

02:31:56.000 With inflation, the problem is going to get worse.

02:31:58.000 So, they can't freeze mortgages indefinitely at a certain level, because then the banks won't make any money.

02:32:04.000 We're talking about a five-year freeze.

02:32:07.000 That's too long.

02:32:08.000 The banks would go bananas.

02:32:10.000 It would have to be a one-year or something like that.

02:32:15.000 And I think that's the best the public could hope for.

02:32:17.000 You've got to remember, That 85 to 95 percent of the people who have the probable mortgages lied on their applications.

02:32:24.000 They committed fraud.

02:32:25.000 Again, I've never seen corruption just in business.

02:32:28.000 People trying to, you know, hammer me.

02:32:30.000 I mean, I don't do that.

02:32:32.000 And it's just, it's like they think it's normal.

02:32:34.000 And they get mad at you when you tell them, listen buddy, I'm not going to sit here and take a rapin'.

02:32:40.000 Well, that's the way the world is today.

02:32:41.000 And you're right, it's wrong, but they do it.

02:32:45.000 Alright, who's up next?

02:32:46.000 You said, John?

02:32:48.000 Leo and Matt, we've got to move quick.

02:32:50.000 Leo, go ahead.

02:32:51.000 Yeah, I spoke earlier about giving us our culture and economic vaccination, and since running the three Rs into economics is not going to happen any time because they will stop us from teaching the kids real economics, I think the only thing left is to take the monopoly and risk and put it together and call it crashing the market game.

02:33:13.000 Well, that's right, we were just talking to you.

02:33:15.000 Thanks, Leo.

02:33:16.000 What do you think of that idea, Bob Chapman?

02:33:18.000 I mean, that is a good idea, to show people how the real monopoly works, not the fake financial system that we're taught.

02:33:27.000 Well, it is a good idea, and it would be probably even better if you were able to do it as a video game, because that would appeal You know what, they don't have to think as much.

02:33:38.000 People don't want to think.

02:33:39.000 I know I'm in one of the big, hot Midway games put out by CBS.

02:33:44.000 The locals here are fans.

02:33:45.000 Maybe they should try to do that, but I don't think Sumner Redstone would let them do that.

02:33:49.000 Let's go ahead.

02:33:50.000 I think me getting on that video game was already enough trouble.

02:33:54.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Rob and PA.

02:33:56.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster.com.

02:34:00.000 Hi, Alex.

02:34:01.000 Hi, Bob.

02:34:01.000 I just wanted to touch on a few things.

02:34:03.000 That Bob had mentioned and sort of disagree.

02:34:07.000 I think this Bush administration has really started this domino effect back in August with this subprime and then it dominoed into the lending institutions and banks and then the bond rating started to glide and then we have now where the bond insurance companies are going bankrupt.

02:34:26.000 I know Jim Cramer What's on CNBC this morning talking about the Treasury Department, the Fed, buying out these bond insurance companies.

02:34:37.000 And I think ultimately it's going to fall on the American people.

02:34:41.000 Well, my point is that, what, Florida, California, a bunch of other states are going and saying, you said these were AAA corporate paper.

02:34:48.000 They weren't.

02:34:49.000 Give us our money back.

02:34:50.000 The contract says so and they can't.

02:34:52.000 I think Bob's being conservative here in his forecast.

02:34:54.000 He's saying any day now we could wake up and it could be a full-blown depression.

02:34:58.000 Right, Bob?

02:34:59.000 That's possible, but it probably isn't probable because, as the gentleman is saying, and I've talked about this in my publication, ...is that the government will step in and nationalize these institutions.

02:35:11.000 Yeah, that's it!

02:35:12.000 We have ACA, they're working on their, AMBAC, MIBA.

02:35:18.000 They're all, one's bankrupt, the other two are going to be bankrupt, and they're insuring the bonds, and the bonds got their rating of AAA from the insurance companies, who no longer have a AAA, which means all those bonds that are in institutional accounts, Yeah, I don't think Asia is going to continue to buy our bonds.

02:35:37.000 And so, Bob, the answer to everything is inflation, inflation.

02:35:40.000 They'll just keep issuing more currency, more credit.

02:35:42.000 I mean, do you see his point, Rob, on what he's saying, that they're just going to continue to issue more liquidity?

02:35:51.000 Yeah, I don't think Asia is going to continue to buy our bonds.

02:35:56.000 I mean, this move alone by Bernanke and Paulson this morning eroded three-quarter percent of their value.

02:36:05.000 But hold on, hold on, though.

02:36:07.000 Where does it go, then?

02:36:08.000 If they're holding all these trillions and trillions, what do they do with it?

02:36:12.000 I mean, they're stuck holding it.

02:36:14.000 Bob?

02:36:15.000 They're stuck holding it.

02:36:18.000 There's nothing they can do.

02:36:19.000 If they sell into the market, they're going to take losses.

02:36:22.000 And the longer they wait, the worse the losses are going to be.

02:36:24.000 You're seeing the euro just...

02:36:26.000 The roof this morning was up four points.

02:36:28.000 It's just incredible.

02:36:29.000 Alex, I was on a couple of months ago.

02:36:31.000 Call it paper, paper.

02:36:33.000 It just disintegrates into thin air.

02:36:37.000 It's quite a conundrum.

02:36:38.000 I don't know where it's going to go.

02:36:39.000 Well, it's going to be the next big crisis, and it's already underway.

02:36:44.000 It has been for the last nine months because, for example, Countryline borrowed $51 billion from the Federal Home Loan Bank in Atlanta.

02:36:54.000 And that started back in March.

02:36:55.000 And WAMO has been borrowing money as well as other financial institutions that they never told you about.

02:37:02.000 Rob, thank you for the call.

02:37:04.000 Call back again in the next few days.

02:37:06.000 I'd like to hear more of your perspective.

02:37:07.000 I know we've got Tim, Fred, Britt, and others.

02:37:09.000 I hope to get to you after Bob is gone because he's got to leave us in a minute.

02:37:12.000 But one last caller, Tim in Ohio, you're on the air with our guest.

02:37:15.000 One thing to remember to realize who we're dealing with here is you go back to your Latin root words.

02:37:23.000 Polly means many.

02:37:25.000 Ticks are blood-sucking creatures.

02:37:27.000 So you put it together, Polly Ticks. 0.90

02:37:29.000 Washington, D.C. 0.97

02:37:30.000 is many blood-sucking creatures.

02:37:33.000 And I would encourage everyone that can legally, when you get that $800 from George Bush, go out and buy some guns and some ammo, people.

02:37:42.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:37:45.000 Thank you, and that is the final $64 million question, Bob Chapman.

02:37:49.000 By the way, you can get a free copy of his newsletter by calling 1-800 375-4188-800-375-4188.

02:37:53.000 Bob, that is the big answer.

02:37:59.000 Once things finally settle out and people have that flashpoint, do you think there'll be blood in the streets?

02:38:07.000 I think there's a great possibility of it, and that's why I tell all of our subscribers, everybody over ten should have an assault weapon, a thousand rounds of ammo, and ten dirty shot clips, because we don't know where this is going to go.

02:38:20.000 Well, if 80% of the population in the 1930s Depression, starting in 29, were agrarian, knew how to plant crops, knew how to work together, and were moral, and crime more than quadrupled, and starvation set in, and I mean institutional crime, you know, grapes of wrath, that's true stuff, folks, feeding on you, you know, basically slave plantations.

02:38:41.000 I'm not talking about for black folks, I mean for everybody.

02:38:44.000 Now, with 90% urban, and of the 10%, only 4 or 5% of those know how to plant food, I mean, we're talking about... Dr. Roberts is talking about collapse of society.

02:38:56.000 You know, I see that as a distinct possibility, and that's why your program is so very important, because you're waking up a lot of people who are taking the right actions and perhaps making this thing a short-term Uh, situation rather than a long imprisonment, if you may.

02:39:19.000 Absolutely.

02:39:20.000 Bob Chapman, we'll talk to you very, very soon.

02:39:23.000 In fact, I'm going to have my producer, why don't you call my producer?

02:39:26.000 You've got his number and I'd like to set up a little meeting with you about ways we can get the forecaster out to more people.

02:39:31.000 Do you have my producer's number?

02:39:34.000 Yes, I do.

02:39:35.000 That's... It's the 512-291-57 and then the rest of the number, yes.

02:39:42.000 Okay, I gotcha.

02:39:44.000 Okay, thank you, sir.

02:39:45.000 Just set up a meeting with him for us, okay?

02:39:48.000 Okay, bye-bye.

02:39:48.000 Thank you, Bob.

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02:40:51.000 Hey, thank you Alex.

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02:40:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

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02:40:59.000 Marty, we were just talking about what's happening to the economy.

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02:42:39.000 Well, Marty, here's an example.

02:42:40.000 When I first got some of your soap three years ago, and I would accidentally leave some under my arms like I do about once a month with zest or something, an hour later I'd be burning in pain in the office bathroom with my shirt off.

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02:43:00.000 I had to go home a few times over the years.

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02:43:40.000 Sodium Chloride is table salt, a very strong irritant to the skin, a filler, an item that is just Something that you could do without is very inexpensive.

02:43:50.000 But that's nothing compared to all those other chemicals that are in there.

02:43:53.000 You think it's a pound for sodium chloride and it's in there as a predominant chemical?

02:43:57.000 Who needs it? 0.71

02:43:58.000 Would you wash your face, your baby, your body with table salt?

02:44:02.000 Well, that's why they say you've got to have baby soap for babies. 1.00

02:44:06.000 Because adults shouldn't be using it either.

02:44:08.000 You put that on a baby, they'll break out and get bloody skin from it. 0.83

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02:44:16.000 The doctors, in the 30s and the 40s and early 50s, the dermatology business was almost zero.

02:44:23.000 By the way, and kids didn't have zits either.

02:44:26.000 I remember as a teenager, I learned instinctively not to scrub my face with soap like everybody said, because it wasn't soap.

02:44:31.000 And I'd get zits when I didn't and left the normal you know oils and stuff there and just cleaned it lightly I wouldn't you know get acne and everybody else I knew had really bad acne but I guess what Edward Bernays who got doctors to go on the newsreels and in the papers and say bacon with your eggs you gotta eat it it's for your heart no one ate bacon with eggs he's the guy that had women flappers say they were feminists and walk with cigarettes to be photographed in the Then women all had to go smoke cigarettes.

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02:46:03.000 Used to you sold to finer hotels and to institutions, hospitals, because they knew and you've had them, you know, as customers since 47, but what, six, seven years ago, five years ago, I forget, you started selling First over Genesis, because Michael Trudeau was an environmentalist, one of the salesmen, and he just found out about you guys and called and got you, and I found out about it, and now this is your first time adventure here with the general public, buying it at wholesale prices, high quality organic soap.

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02:48:04.000 Give me a limerick.

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02:48:06.000 Okay, then let me give you the limerick for today.

02:48:11.000 Oh, we got the limerick going?

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02:51:43.000 This is the way he wants it.

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02:51:54.000 Look at your women crying. 1.00

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02:52:02.000 The way they've always done.

02:52:05.000 We'll continue to track what's happening.

02:52:07.000 Unbelievable blow to the dollar.

02:52:08.000 Unbelievable blow to the republic.

02:52:13.000 Had Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on.

02:52:14.000 Then for an hour, plus we had Bob Shatman on.

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02:53:00.000 Let's jam in some final calls here.

02:53:04.000 Fred in Missouri, and then Brett and Fred.

02:53:08.000 Go quick, Fred.

02:53:08.000 Alright, Alex, I bought the biggest shortwave I could find.

02:53:13.000 I put up the antenna.

02:53:14.000 I've been listening to you for two weeks.

02:53:16.000 I've been jamming the last third of it.

02:53:18.000 The last two days, I've jammed all of your program.

02:53:20.000 I haven't gotten nothing.

02:53:22.000 And the second thing I wanted to mention was This Doomsday Law they put in January of 2005 means basically that they can outlaw us even owning gold, doesn't it?

02:53:37.000 Well, I mean, they say that the President is Supreme Dictator in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

02:53:42.000 They literally say, the White House memos say he is God.

02:53:45.000 It says all law flows from him.

02:53:47.000 Torture is okay.

02:53:49.000 Mass murder is okay. 0.99

02:53:50.000 Anything's okay.

02:53:52.000 Doesn't matter.

02:53:52.000 They're Hitler, basically.

02:53:53.000 They're Stalin.

02:53:54.000 They're Mao.

02:53:55.000 I hear you.

02:53:55.000 It's getting bad.

02:53:56.000 Is there anything else?

02:53:57.000 No, that's it.

02:53:58.000 gone to seed.

02:53:58.000 And so let them say whatever they want.

02:54:00.000 Let them do whatever they want.

02:54:01.000 I mean, yeah, they can take your bank account.

02:54:03.000 They can take your house. 0.98

02:54:04.000 They can take your gold.

02:54:05.000 But it doesn't mean you still shouldn't get into it.

02:54:08.000 It's coming to it.

02:54:09.000 I think it's coming down to it.

02:54:10.000 I hear you.

02:54:11.000 It's getting bad, sir.

02:54:13.000 Anything else?

02:54:13.000 No, that's it.

02:54:15.000 So what do you hear jamming-wise?

02:54:17.000 You're just listening to WWCR and it just, like, something plays over it?

02:54:20.000 Wild noises and then static and then the big hoo-hoo's. 0.99

02:54:28.000 It's just all... There are quite a few hams.

02:54:30.000 Most of them are good people, but there are quite a few ham operators who hate liberty.

02:54:34.000 Most of them are, you know, former government people and they submit to globalism.

02:54:37.000 They've taken the spirit of evil.

02:54:38.000 And they do, you know, key regionally over the show.

02:54:41.000 You know, just key over the frequency, but it doesn't black it out worldwide, my friend.

02:54:46.000 God bless you.

02:54:46.000 I'm sorry they're doing that to you there locally.

02:54:48.000 That's what it sounds like.

02:54:49.000 Because I can tell when people just say it's static or something, but if it's like a You know what they're doing.

02:54:55.000 Doesn't matter.

02:54:56.000 Truth's getting out.

02:54:56.000 They can censor us everywhere.

02:54:57.000 Truth's getting out.

02:54:58.000 Just tell ten people about the show today.

02:55:00.000 That's how you deal with them.

02:55:02.000 Brett in New Orleans.

02:55:03.000 You're on the air.

02:55:04.000 Go ahead.

02:55:04.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:55:06.000 Brand new listener here.

02:55:07.000 And I want to say I got to meet Ron Paul yesterday.

02:55:10.000 I'm here in New Orleans.

02:55:13.000 We got the caucuses tonight.

02:55:14.000 So we're going all out there, me and my family and friends.

02:55:19.000 We'll stir up something.

02:55:20.000 But I wanted to ask Bob this question.

02:55:23.000 One of the things Ron Paul was saying, that he's not for big government, less government.

02:55:28.000 He wants to move more to a free market.

02:55:32.000 Even though most of these big companies back all their holdings with government paper, would fixed securities backed by the claim paying ability of independent companies hedge any of the risk of this government trash that they're trying to get.

02:55:51.000 Well, I would certainly think so, but I'm no expert on that.

02:55:53.000 I have general knowledge.

02:55:55.000 Call me back tomorrow, my friend.

02:55:56.000 Good to have you on board, Brett, and we'll talk more.

02:55:58.000 To Fred and others, sorry we don't have time to take your call, but I'll be back live tomorrow, 11 to 2 Central.

02:56:04.000 We are being censured on Dig, all over the place, in the media, libraries, where you can't get to truthnews.us or prisonplanet.com or ronpaulwarroom.com.

02:56:16.000 Just tell everybody else about the site.

02:56:17.000 That's how you handle their censorship.

02:56:19.000 And tell everybody to tune back in.

02:56:21.000 T-minus 70 seconds.

02:56:22.000 We'll be right back at InfoWars.com.

02:56:25.000 Right back in a moment.

02:56:28.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

02:56:30.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

Alex Jones Show - January 22, 2008

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