Alex Jones Show - 20080124_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 We'll be going over the latest global economy news right here in the United States.

00:00:33.000 We'll be right back.

00:00:34.000 We got Bob Chapman popping in for a 15 minute interview in about 30 minutes.

00:00:45.000 International Forecaster, some of the best economic true analysis you're going to find anywhere.

00:00:51.000 And then Charlotte Thompson-Isserby, been interviewing her for more than 10 years.

00:00:56.000 We haven't had her on in about two.

00:00:58.000 So I thought, why not get her back up and continue the series we're doing here, yesterday with John Taylor Gatto on education, from their own source documents, how they're dumbing down the population.

00:01:12.000 How they took us from the most intelligent people in the world with the highest test scores, dwarfing any other nation, to being the dumbest in the industrialized and behind 20-plus third-world nations in the rankings as well. 0.94

00:01:26.000 That's right.

00:01:26.000 People growing up in dirt-floored huts in tiny villages are getting better educations than the American people.

00:01:34.000 And the reason I decided to get Charlotte on today was that I tend to go to YouTube every night, and I type my name, Alex Jones, in, and I hit date added to see what the latest videos and clips are.

00:01:48.000 And I went in there, and I saw this little individual who implies that he's going to school to be a social worker.

00:01:57.000 He's 30-something years old, I guess, and still in school doing that from what he implied.

00:02:02.000 And he just said that, I believe space aliens run everything.

00:02:06.000 I believe George Bush is with space aliens.

00:02:09.000 I've never said that.

00:02:10.000 We don't talk about space aliens here.

00:02:13.000 And he went on to say that we're just making it up that social workers have called the family a disease and said that it has to be eradicated and that everyone's mentally ill who is part of a family and that the state has to re-educate us.

00:02:30.000 But he did issue a challenge that last night and this morning I have yet to be unable to meet.

00:02:40.000 And that is about five years ago Bob Dacey came to me.

00:02:46.000 His son was going to college.

00:02:49.000 He's now a police officer.

00:02:51.000 And he was going to school here locally in Austin.

00:02:57.000 And I went way back in memory, to be accurate, it was ACC at the time.

00:03:02.000 Then he went to Sam Houston and got his official degree in law enforcement.

00:03:05.000 Really good guy.

00:03:08.000 And knew him when he was a little kid.

00:03:12.000 Grown-up man and a cop down in Houston, but long story short, Bob came in, and now Bob's only here eight, nine years, one of my great proteges, very proud of Bob Dacy, and he came in with a textbook down to the TV station.

00:03:27.000 He gave me photocopies of it, and it was Calhoun Readers Social Working something, and it was the textbook used at ACC and UT.

00:03:38.000 He had documents on that.

00:03:41.000 And it said that something like, the family is a throwback to ancient times.

00:03:50.000 We must cure this disease.

00:03:52.000 The family is a disease.

00:03:54.000 Then I saw Bob a few months ago and I said, Bob, can you find that?

00:03:58.000 And he said, yeah, I'll try.

00:03:59.000 But, you know, in five years we go through quite a few documents.

00:04:03.000 And Bob, since then, I haven't really stayed on him, hasn't found it.

00:04:08.000 And then I did some Google searching and I couldn't find it last night for about an hour and got madder and madder.

00:04:13.000 Then I spent about another hour and a half of time I didn't have this morning doing it.

00:04:17.000 So I'm going to turn you loose.

00:04:21.000 But that means if I forget to not talk about this in the third hour and you posted it in the PrisonPlanet.com message board, you need to call in and tell me where it is so I can go find it.

00:04:32.000 Here's an example.

00:04:33.000 Four or five months ago I went on air and talked about how Cities all over the country won't hire you if you have over 100 IQ as a cop.

00:04:40.000 People said I was a liar.

00:04:42.000 And the listeners literally found like 30 mainstream articles and we blew them away.

00:04:46.000 So I'm turning you loose.

00:04:47.000 I need your help.

00:04:48.000 Find me textbooks, quotes, government documents where they call a family a disease.

00:04:53.000 Post them all in there.

00:04:55.000 The power of millions of you taking action is unstoppable.

00:04:58.000 I know it's there.

00:04:59.000 Find it.

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00:07:59.000 You're leaving your number out, I knew that you would.

00:08:14.000 You think that I'll be home waiting, just like I should.

00:08:22.000 But if you're thinking you're right, then you'll be wrong.

00:08:27.000 And when you get home, babe, I'll be gone.

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00:08:37.000 What would you say?

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00:08:49.000 Well, those were times in the past we shared, but now, baby, I don't really care.

00:08:56.000 Oh, I'm over and ready.

00:08:57.000 When you're sitting along, you're good at that west Texas guy.

00:09:25.000 Well, the clouds are dustin', clouds are rainin', let you know that I was doin' fine.

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00:10:52.000 Okay, let me just stop and go back to what I was saying before the break.

00:10:55.000 I remember about four or five months ago, I got on air and I mentioned stories that I've covered many times over the years.

00:11:03.000 And I've talked about how the states, under federal guidelines and federal grants, from Detroit to Dallas, Texas, from New York City to Los Angeles, California, I mean, every major city I've seen, there have been lawsuits and cases, I see them pop up every few months, where if a police officer now has over 100 IQ, they don't hire you, and that's done, we have the documents, because they found people over 100 IQ, over average intelligence,

00:11:33.000 100 IQ isn't stupid.

00:11:34.000 Most of us have 100 IQ. 0.96

00:11:35.000 I'm not saying cops are dumb, I'm just saying they don't want above average that are going to see the big picture and ask questions. 0.88

00:11:42.000 And sure enough, YouTube videos, emails, phone calls, I'm a liar, I'm making that up. 0.88

00:11:48.000 People didn't believe it.

00:11:49.000 And they said, Alex didn't give proof for that.

00:11:52.000 Alex just made that up.

00:11:54.000 Well what happens is, If I've already covered something 30, 40, 50, 60 times with the actual news articles, I will then get into shorthand on the air, and I will say, yeah, they won't hire cops if they've got over 100 IQ.

00:12:08.000 That's been that policy for at least a decade, that we know of.

00:12:12.000 There have been national TV programs about it, trying to spin it.

00:12:15.000 And sure enough, our great listeners, when I mentioned it, went into the PrisonPlanet.com forums and literally found dozens and dozens of stories and articles and mainstream reports.

00:12:29.000 It's the same thing.

00:12:30.000 When I get up here and I say the Mexican Attorney General made his employees take implantable microchips, that was in MSNBC, Associated Press, Reuters.

00:12:39.000 It was big news four years ago.

00:12:41.000 And the last time I mentioned that I got emails and calls and YouTube videos were made saying I was a liar.

00:12:47.000 I'm not a liar.

00:12:49.000 And frankly, before you just say I'm making something up, you should go Google it and search it out for yourself.

00:12:55.000 But maybe since I mentioned that, we should just post it right there in the forum.

00:12:59.000 But the people that are saying these things, I don't even think that they're out there themselves lying, calling me a liar.

00:13:08.000 I think they really think I'm making this up.

00:13:11.000 They can't believe that the Mexican Attorney General took a microchip and made his employees take one.

00:13:16.000 I don't think they believe that the California Bureau of Prisons in 2003 tried to make its prisoners take it, Reuters reported.

00:13:23.000 There was a backlash and lawsuits and then they backed off.

00:13:26.000 I don't think when I talk about civilian inmate labor camp programs and the admissions of secret concentration camps from 86 until 96, declassified in 96, I think people hear that and they just think it's a lie.

00:13:40.000 Why don't you type civilian inmate labor camp program into Google?

00:13:44.000 And you will find it.

00:13:45.000 You will find out I'm telling the truth.

00:13:47.000 Now, occasionally, I go back from something 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12 years ago, 13 years ago, 15 years ago, because I was politically active and, you know, fighting the New World Order two years before I got on air, and it's so many years ago, I can't even find it.

00:14:07.000 I know I reported it.

00:14:08.000 I know I held it in my hand.

00:14:09.000 I know it's true, but you know what?

00:14:14.000 Now, it's kind of like a pet peeve or an obsessive compulsive in a way.

00:14:18.000 There's a few things I obsess on.

00:14:22.000 And it might be not being able to find some 15 year old t-shirt with holes in it that I love.

00:14:27.000 That happened this morning.

00:14:29.000 Or it might be not being able to find my car keys.

00:14:34.000 I just go crazy.

00:14:35.000 Or it might be, I mean, we've all got them.

00:14:38.000 Well, one of them is not being able to find something I've had.

00:14:42.000 Now, it's Calhoun Reader, Social Work 101, something like that.

00:14:49.000 Five years ago, maybe six years ago, I had it on TV, the textbook.

00:14:53.000 Bob took it back and gave it back to his son who was going to college here locally.

00:14:57.000 I asked Bob for it.

00:14:59.000 He can't find it.

00:15:00.000 He gave it back to his son because he sold the textbook back.

00:15:03.000 They're so expensive.

00:15:04.000 He had photocopies of it.

00:15:08.000 I'm lighting a fire.

00:15:09.000 I want that text. 0.95

00:15:11.000 Where it said the family is a disease, and primitive, and needs to be eradicated.

00:15:16.000 I want it, and I want it now.

00:15:19.000 Now John Taylor Gatto read the Hillary Clinton quote, footnoted from his free book, at JohnTaylorGatto.com yesterday, where he came on and talked about Hillary saying the family was a primitive, you know, bad institution.

00:15:32.000 I know that we've got official Department of Education documents where they said they wanted to remove the family from being in control.

00:15:41.000 So I just went ahead and set Charlotte Iserby up today for the third hour to address this. 0.93

00:15:49.000 In fact, let's just go ahead and play the first minute of this guy.

00:15:52.000 And again, he's just indicative of the average person.

00:15:56.000 I believe he really believes I'm lying.

00:16:00.000 I believe that he really thinks I'm making this up.

00:16:03.000 And I guess in his social working classes or whatever he took at college, he implies it was social working.

00:16:09.000 He says he never read this in his social working books, but he didn't come across this.

00:16:13.000 I don't know how you didn't.

00:16:15.000 It's said in different ways throughout the literature.

00:16:17.000 I mean, I've got in Endgame the quotes of him talking about taking over the family and mass drugging the population.

00:16:23.000 I mean, there's hundreds and hundreds of these quotes and statements, but let's just hear the very first of this, where he, out of the gates, though, Says that I say that space aliens run things, and that George Bush is working with space aliens.

00:16:36.000 I have never said this.

00:16:38.000 So at first he makes totally illegitimate attacks, and then he expands out, though, into things that are legitimate.

00:16:45.000 Because he's seen shows where I just mention that, oh yeah, I saw this textbook where it said this.

00:16:52.000 And, you know, five years later, I don't have it in front of me.

00:16:55.000 But it is real.

00:16:56.000 Here it is.

00:16:58.000 This is the Scientist, and I'm doing a video response to the Alex Jones Family and Socialism thing.

00:16:58.000 Hello there, YouTube.

00:17:06.000 First off, I want to say that Alex Jones nuts. 0.97

00:17:10.000 This is the same guy who does Prison Planet, and we all know it for gems like Aliens are Invading, you know, Bush is an Alien, just weird, off-the-wall crap like that. 0.89

00:17:23.000 And this video is a perfect example of what this guy is all about.

00:17:28.000 Absolutely perfect, and I just spelled it out for you.

00:17:32.000 First of all, why are police and social workers in a children's classroom bad?

00:17:37.000 And I don't think they mean, like, right in the classroom, but working with teachers, I don't know why that would be a bad thing.

00:17:44.000 I mean, you know, schools are, in and of themselves, designed in part to catch things like abuse, or Childhood did all the problems.

00:17:57.000 Okay.

00:17:59.000 Guilty until proven innocent.

00:18:00.000 What about the state?

00:18:02.000 The Fed's own numbers cover Newsweek, the shame of foster care, 2000.

00:18:05.000 That little black kid on the cover.

00:18:09.000 Go pull it up. 0.97

00:18:10.000 Don't just sit there and say I'm lying.

00:18:12.000 Go prove I'm wrong.

00:18:14.000 Said that you're five times more likely to be abused in foster care or in the CPS, Child Protective Services system.

00:18:21.000 It's the most dangerous place for children.

00:18:25.000 And, you know, he probably thinks I'm lying when I say AP reported in Michigan they threw fake blood on kids and set off fake bombs with smoke and told them that the homeschool defense league quote against public education, that was in the news, was going to kill them.

00:18:43.000 Or that they come in unannounced and make the children urinate on themselves in SWAT team drills Or that it was in the Pensacola News Journal that Marines came in, aimed guns at them, and said, Bill Clinton wants you to know what martial law is like.

00:18:57.000 1998 Pensacola News Journal.

00:19:01.000 I mean, there's hundreds of these stories.

00:19:04.000 It was in the major Minneapolis St.

00:19:07.000 Paul newspaper in 2001.

00:19:11.000 I had the teacher and her lawyer on, where they came into the portable buildings, aimed guns at them, told them they were going to kill them, marched them out of the woods.

00:19:18.000 She had a nervous breakdown.

00:19:19.000 Kids were defecating all over themselves.

00:19:22.000 This was in the newspaper, not telling them it was a drill.

00:19:26.000 And I see one of these every month.

00:19:28.000 This is the type of brainwashing and trauma that's going on in these schools.

00:19:34.000 Or Swansboro, North Carolina, the police dogs grabbing the bags, ripping them open, all on school surveillance cameras, looking for drugs, no drugs found.

00:19:42.000 They're indoctrination centers for putting kids into the prison system.

00:19:46.000 Cameras in bathrooms aren't good, little boy.

00:19:49.000 This is what's happening.

00:19:52.000 The social workers were set up by eugenicists.

00:19:54.000 That's the historical fact.

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00:24:18.000 Ira Hates!

00:24:19.000 Social workers!

00:24:22.000 Didn't do anything to the Native Americans.

00:24:26.000 They didn't take their children away from them and re-educate them.

00:24:36.000 They didn't sterilize them.

00:24:39.000 No, that didn't happen.

00:24:42.000 No, that didn't happen.

00:24:43.000 That's right.

00:24:49.000 You know what happened?

00:24:52.000 a proud and proud By the 1850s they'd set up the first social worker battalions in England.

00:24:59.000 They picked up the very same ideas by the 1880s in the U.S.

00:25:04.000 through eugenics and they forcibly took tens of thousands of Native American youth from all the major tribes and they put them on trains from out west From the East, they'd take them up to huge training centers. 0.86

00:25:20.000 You didn't know this.

00:25:21.000 And they'd cut their hair short.

00:25:23.000 They'd make them wear suits and ties. 0.88

00:25:26.000 And they'd destroy their culture. 0.98

00:25:27.000 That was the males. 0.85

00:25:29.000 They'd take their women by the turn of the century right through to today and sterilize them. 1.00

00:25:35.000 And I saw the Austin Chronicle.

00:25:37.000 Somebody sent me an article they'd written a few months ago.

00:25:39.000 I just read it the other night.

00:25:40.000 And it made a joke about me. 0.92

00:25:42.000 It said I was basically crazy and Made stuff up about the government sterilizing Native Americans and how I was a nut. 0.81

00:25:50.000 That's public! 1.00

00:25:50.000 That's on PBS, you pieces of filth! 1.00

00:25:54.000 And I'm sick of you making jokes about everything that's happening and everything that's going on around us, just because you're little kids, mentally, and you don't know about the real world, and you're not aware of the horrors that are taking place. 0.99

00:26:08.000 And they practice it all on the blacks, they practice it on the natives, and by the way, they're doing it to everybody now. 0.99

00:26:14.000 There's a lot of yuppies and a lot of know-it-alls.

00:26:16.000 I was talking to a friend just last week and she was talking about her sister who's a prosecutor in Fort Worth.

00:26:23.000 And she was talking about a documentary out about toxic waste in China and the industry and how the deformities are up and the children are dying.

00:26:30.000 And she just said, and how does that affect me, what's happening in China?

00:26:34.000 She's on a power trip.

00:26:37.000 You know, that woman, I'm sure, engages in tyranny every day up in Fort Worth and just enjoys herself on a big fat power trip, but she takes the shots and she drinks the fluoride and she feels like she's part of the system. 1.00

00:26:48.000 You're nothing.

00:26:50.000 This same system's chewing your very soul out, lady. 1.00

00:26:55.000 So you go ahead and make jokes and say they didn't take the Native Americans and destroy their culture.

00:27:01.000 You know, the government, 250 years ago,

00:27:05.000 The British government, the French government, openly in textbooks, in field manuals, talked about how they could go into a smallpox area, go into people's homes that had smallpox, and how they could get the blankets, because again, Europeans have been dealing with it for tens of thousands of years, so they weren't as susceptible, they just got sick generally, and how they could take it and give it to the natives, and how it was a good way to wipe them out.

00:27:34.000 Did you know?

00:27:35.000 That didn't start in the 1860s out west.

00:27:39.000 That was being done in Canada, what's Canada today, in French Canada, in British Canada, and in British Colonial, what is the United States, original 13, and into the wilderness areas.

00:27:53.000 Going into Ohio and Iowa and going even further out into Illinois, going into Michigan, Going into Tennessee.

00:28:06.000 By the way, they even got it on Discovery Channel now.

00:28:09.000 I won't watch a lot of TV, but I happened to flip it on a few months ago.

00:28:12.000 I even saw them admitting, what I already read in history books, that the Huns knew how to take somebody who had the plague, or they knew how to take somebody who had smallpox, and they would catapult their rotten bodies over the wall when they were running sieges against the Chinese. 0.54

00:28:32.000 The Chin. 0.96

00:28:34.000 And others.

00:28:36.000 Where Chinese comes from, the Qin Dynasty. 0.59

00:28:39.000 That's what they would do.

00:28:40.000 Oh, but the government doesn't launch biotechs today.

00:28:45.000 People were just doing it a thousand, two thousand, three thousand years ago.

00:28:51.000 Oh, no.

00:28:52.000 They don't do anything.

00:28:53.000 There's no social engineering going on.

00:28:58.000 None of it's happening.

00:29:00.000 We can just trust the government and do whatever they say.

00:29:04.000 Doesn't matter if New Scientist admits fluoride eats holes in your brains and massively lowers IQ and lists a whole bunch of government and university studies.

00:29:13.000 I mean, I only mention that because people won't believe me, they'll believe New Scientist.

00:29:16.000 Doesn't matter if the American Medical Association and the American Dental Association since 2005 have said children shouldn't drink fluoride and shouldn't brush their teeth with it.

00:29:24.000 They're not going to stop.

00:29:27.000 Doesn't matter.

00:29:29.000 A lot of you out there are... would have just been averaged 100 IQs, but you've got a 90 and 85 and 80 because of the fluoride alone.

00:29:36.000 So you can't even understand me right now.

00:29:42.000 You're a grueling mess. 0.99

00:29:44.000 But for those of you that have still got some brain left, listen to me. 0.99

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00:34:02.000 I've got about a five-minute clip.

00:34:04.000 I'm not going to play it all, because I want to go to Bob Chapman.

00:34:06.000 Now I'll give you the economic outlook, what's happening.

00:34:08.000 The stock market's up right now, as he predicted it would, but that was at the cost of a 75 basis points cut, which is decimating the dollar.

00:34:16.000 Gold has surged back above $900 an ounce.

00:34:19.000 It was $300.

00:34:23.000 Just five years ago.

00:34:25.000 That's the real inflation being mirrored there.

00:34:27.000 I wanted to talk about what a crash will look like, and if we are going to have a crash, when he thinks that will unfold, or if it will just be this long, slow slide into night.

00:34:35.000 Then Ron Paul's called for investigation of the Fed, so is Cramer now.

00:34:39.000 Jim Cramer, of all people, on MSNBC, CNBC's on both.

00:34:47.000 Who is to blame?

00:34:48.000 Why they're orchestrating this?

00:34:49.000 How they're doing it?

00:34:51.000 I was in a store line yesterday, bringing some food home to the family, and I heard people talking about how the Federal Reserve was behind this, and they didn't even know who I was.

00:34:58.000 It wasn't like they were listeners to this show.

00:35:00.000 The word's finally getting out.

00:35:02.000 But I want Bob Chapman, international forecaster of TheInternationalForecaster.com, to be able to comment on this.

00:35:08.000 So let's play a few minutes of Jim Cramer attacking the Fed.

00:35:11.000 You thought you'd never hear it.

00:35:12.000 Well, now you are hearing it.

00:35:15.000 Things are changing.

00:35:15.000 Here it is. - You know I am no fan of the Federal Reserve these days.

00:35:25.000 You know that I think the Fed has hurt this stock market and this U.S.

00:35:30.000 economy.

00:35:32.000 Frankly, I think the Federal Reserve has run amok.

00:35:36.000 It's become totally unaccountable.

00:35:39.000 Tonight, I think I found a fellow traveler, Congressman Ron Paul, who's running for president as a Republican and has been highly critical of the Federal Reserve.

00:35:49.000 I'm inviting all the candidates to swing through Mad Money and talk about your money.

00:35:53.000 Congressman Paul's position is so important on the Fed, and his method of spreading his message for his campaign is so different from everyone else's, that we're thrilled to have him on the show tonight.

00:36:06.000 Welcome Congressman Paul.

00:36:09.000 Thank you very much.

00:36:10.000 Nice to be with you.

00:36:10.000 Great to have you.

00:36:11.000 Look, one of the things that's changed, and you're changing it, caucuses and kissing babies, they don't cut it anymore on the campaign trail.

00:36:18.000 This is 2007.

00:36:19.000 YouTube is king in so many ways.

00:36:23.000 I never thought we would have so much in common, Congressman Paul, but you and I have struck a chord and become YouTube sensations.

00:36:30.000 And it's about an unlikely topic.

00:36:31.000 It's about the Federal Reserve.

00:36:33.000 And we know even the younger people, younger people are into it.

00:36:37.000 Why is it that your message, my message, somewhat critical, absolutely critical to the Fed, is just reaching home to so many young people and actually everyone throughout the country.

00:36:48.000 Well, to me it's utterly amazing.

00:36:50.000 When I go to the college campuses, I get the loudest applause when I criticize the Fed and indicate that I don't even like the Fed and think we should talk about getting rid of it.

00:36:58.000 So it is an important issue and I think this is the first time in over a hundred years that it's become an issue in a presidential campaign.

00:37:06.000 So I'm really excited about it because the monetary issue is something that has driven me to get involved in politics for a long time.

00:37:13.000 Now you have been, I think, spot on in saying that the Federal Reserve created the stock bubble with low margin rates and it created the housing bubble with low mortgage rates.

00:37:22.000 Yet I never hear about anyone talking about investigating the Fed in Congress.

00:37:26.000 It's a creature of Congress.

00:37:27.000 Why don't we do it?

00:37:29.000 You're absolutely right.

00:37:30.000 That's why I introduce a bill constantly to audit the Federal Reserve.

00:37:34.000 We've created the Federal Reserve, and it has no oversight.

00:37:37.000 We don't even know if they have the gold there anymore.

00:37:41.000 And it's so important, yet there's no oversight.

00:37:43.000 I think it's even more secret than the CIA.

00:37:46.000 So, to me, it ought to be open.

00:37:48.000 When we come in at the 8 after the next hour, I want to play the rest of it.

00:37:51.000 I want to get to Bob Chapman now, who will be with us until then, maybe even a little bit longer.

00:37:56.000 He got second place yesterday in Louisiana in the caucus.

00:38:01.000 He got second place in the Nevada primary.

00:38:04.000 This is huge news, but Giuliani still gets three, four times the coverage Ron Paul does.

00:38:10.000 They are really getting desperate right now, but thank God Kramer did have him on.

00:38:18.000 Bob Chapman, I mean, two, three years ago, I would have never imagined we'd hear open discussions of the private Federal Reserve stealing gold, being more secret than the CIA, running the country.

00:38:28.000 Now, the top five, six videos on Google 100.

00:38:34.000 Are the Money Masters and other videos exposing the Federal Reserve, the Von Mise Institute, my video, America Freedom to Fascism, I mean all the top videos now.

00:38:44.000 This is really catching fire, Bob.

00:38:49.000 Well, and well it should.

00:38:51.000 Incidentally, Aaron Russo is one of our subscribers.

00:38:55.000 And I infrequently talk with him.

00:38:58.000 It's very nice to see intellectual honesty coming out of Wall Street.

00:39:04.000 I hope Mr. Kramer knows the wrath that that's going to bring down upon him.

00:39:09.000 I'm glad he said what he said.

00:39:11.000 The tape that we've heard is totally truthful, but they don't want to hear about that on Wall Street.

00:39:17.000 They want to do what they want to do, and they've had free reign for a long, long time, and they essentially have a license to steal.

00:39:24.000 You know, I spent 28 years in the brokerage business, and I own my own firm for a number of years, and so I know what they do.

00:39:33.000 I'm one of the ones who left retired, and unfortunately I have to work because I'm an A-type.

00:39:41.000 But anyway, in the market, we saw a two-hour turn that took the market from a minus $300 on the Dow to a plus $300.

00:39:51.000 Now, let me tell you something.

00:39:55.000 That doesn't happen by smoke and mirrors.

00:39:58.000 That happens because the working group and financial markets Which is a creature of an executive order by Ronald Reagan in August of 1988.

00:40:11.000 They go into the market, and they rig the markets.

00:40:15.000 Now, it was intended for emergencies.

00:40:18.000 The emergency being September, October the 18th, approximately 1987.

00:40:22.000 the 18th, approximately 1987.

00:40:27.000 I was in London when the market collapsed.

00:40:30.000 And what has happened is that they put this in place for emergencies.

00:40:39.000 So what does the Fed and the U.S.

00:40:41.000 Treasury do?

00:40:42.000 They use it 24-7 now.

00:40:44.000 They're in, bobbing in and out of markets of pure fascism.

00:40:48.000 But anyway, that's what they did.

00:40:50.000 And of course, they suppressed gold because they knew that they were going to drop rates, and they knew how much they were going to drop them, and they knew that would make gold go up, so they hit gold.

00:41:00.000 And they do that by either Arranging for selling from, perhaps, and I say perhaps because we don't know whether America's got any gold or not, it hasn't been audited since 1954.

00:41:12.000 Or they've got another central bank to sell gold into the market, or bought puts, or shorted, or whatever they did.

00:41:21.000 Anyway, they drove gold down.

00:41:23.000 And then they did their 600 point turnaround after they made their announcement and a three-quarter of a point cut.

00:41:31.000 And what happened?

00:41:32.000 Gold goes up $25 this morning.

00:41:34.000 They're not going to keep it down.

00:41:36.000 The world is catching on, finally, to what they're doing.

00:41:39.000 Well, Bob, also on the face of it here, I mean, when you've got the private Federal Reserve with all these governors and presidents and chairmen who openly are in revolving doors with the biggest private banks, you know, the IMF and World Bank, this is the ultimate insider trading for select interests.

00:41:59.000 Absolutely.

00:42:01.000 You know, in the past years, I think the only one that's come out of any of those institutions that was worth a salt was Joe Stiglitz.

00:42:09.000 And he's still traipsing around telling people the truth.

00:42:12.000 He just got fed up.

00:42:14.000 He was the chief economist there.

00:42:17.000 Well they gave him the quote IMF 100 point plan and they openly stated we're here to destroy third world countries we don't want to do it to the first world and we want to totally implode them so we can buy everything up with the credit and liquidity we issue and he just said you know what I'm a globalist but I'm not going to be part of this.

00:42:37.000 Exactly.

00:42:39.000 You're absolutely right and the outcome is that he's letting information out that people need to know And I think he's doing a fine job and I'm glad his honest conscience took command over the kind of greed that we fell with Alan Greenspan.

00:42:57.000 Well last January 24th on this show, in fact I looked it up, this is the day, he was here last year with us when he was in Texas.

00:43:06.000 And he said that within two years, they hadn't reversed their policies, which he said they were doing on purpose, that it was a majority chance that we would go into a global depression, and now we're a year into that, and it looks like they're only going to accelerate the policies that are going to bring us to that.

00:43:25.000 And that's correct.

00:43:26.000 And the only question, like you raised earlier, will it be quick or will it be delayed?

00:43:34.000 And I am in the delayed school, so to speak.

00:43:36.000 They're going to fight ferociously to keep the system going, to keep their money and power rolling as long as they can.

00:43:44.000 They don't want to give up.

00:43:45.000 And plus, they don't want it discovered, what they've been doing, because people are just going to go off the deep end when they find out That they've been in rigging the markets?

00:43:57.000 They're also busy for three years positioning their wealth into transportation, into military, into communication, into staples, into commodities that they know aren't going to go down when all the paper corporate paper goes down the toilet.

00:44:13.000 Is that accurate?

00:44:15.000 That's accurate, absolutely.

00:44:17.000 In fact, I saw the accumulation in commodities begin In the early 1990s, and around 1995, six and seven, Jimmy Rogers started to talk about it.

00:44:31.000 And Jimmy has a lot more visibility than I do.

00:44:35.000 He used to be George Soros' partner, for those of you who don't know.

00:44:39.000 And Jimmy recommended commodities in 1999, and he's done handsomely with it.

00:44:45.000 But the ones who are accumulating the commodities in '92, '3, '4, '5 and onward were the royal families of Europe, particularly the British royal family.

00:44:57.000 Now, expanding into a discussion of an investigation of the Fed, Ron Paul's calling for it, Kramer's calling for it.

00:45:07.000 This signals to me, Ron Paul, of course, is a loose cannon to the establishment, but Kramer is on somewhat of a leash.

00:45:14.000 For him to be attacking and now others to be attacking in some of the columns shows a shift in the power structure, at least at some strata.

00:45:21.000 Your take on where that battle is coming from and how deep it goes?

00:45:28.000 Well, it is the main topic of discussion at the Davos World Economic Forum as well.

00:45:35.000 And they're blaming the Fed.

00:45:38.000 The only place that I think that this idea and the promulgation of this idea is coming from is financial interests in Europe.

00:45:50.000 They are very disturbed that AAA paper was sold to them when in fact it was bogus AAA paper and it was laid off on them, not sold to them.

00:46:02.000 And they're going to take hundreds of billions of dollars in losses, and they're not very happy about it.

00:46:07.000 So I think there's a chasm that has been happening over the past two and a half to three years between Illuminists in Europe and the United States. 0.69

00:46:19.000 Part of that dissatisfaction is with the production of warfare and occupation.

00:46:26.000 In the Middle East as well.

00:46:27.000 Well Bob, on Monday... They really got bagged on this and they're mad.

00:46:32.000 Well Bob, I want to hear what you think they're going to do, but on Monday, when our markets were closed for Martin Luther King Day, as you know, a $60 billion dollar, a $64 billion dollar, or 40-something billion pound loss in England, and I'm looking at different numbers, $250 bill, $300 bill lost in these markets to this junk just in the last four days.

00:46:54.000 What number do you have?

00:46:58.000 I'm looking at the long term on it.

00:47:01.000 And my first estimate before the CDO crisis was with the homeowners in the United States, which is the mortgage end of it.

00:47:11.000 And I projected between $750 billion and $1.3 trillion in losses.

00:47:16.000 And this estimate was made a little over three years ago.

00:47:20.000 Well, they've already dumped $700 billion in the last three months in the markets.

00:47:24.000 Well, you're talking about dumping and I'm talking about losses.

00:47:28.000 No, no, I understand.

00:47:30.000 So, I mean, why then is our Fed and the other central banks dumping over 70, I mean 700 billion over the markets and you're saying, I mean, what's that going to do?

00:47:41.000 Well, first of all, the figure is probably close to about 1.2 trillion that the European Central Bank, the Bank of England and the Fed Reserve have poured in to the banking communities And they're rolling that money.

00:47:56.000 Yes, the interest is being paid, but they're rolling it.

00:47:59.000 And that's what's keeping these institutions in business.

00:48:01.000 Otherwise, they'd go under.

00:48:03.000 Yeah, my number was about a month old.

00:48:04.000 So you're saying in the last month, month and a half, it's been another $300 plus billion?

00:48:08.000 That's right.

00:48:10.000 And you know, they're having auctions every other week for $30 billion.

00:48:10.000 Wow.

00:48:13.000 And they create it out of thin air.

00:48:17.000 So that's $60 billion a month, you know.

00:48:19.000 Ten months, you get another $600 billion.

00:48:21.000 And they won't tell you who they're giving the money to.

00:48:23.000 It's a big secret.

00:48:26.000 And their excuse is someone's going to make a run on some bank if they find out that they're borrowing it.

00:48:31.000 We know who's borrowing the money.

00:48:34.000 You know, it's just like Kramer said, it's more secret than the CIA.

00:48:37.000 Well, I used to work in counterintelligence, and he's probably right.

00:48:42.000 But the final numbers, we're looking at probably within the ownership structure in America of homes, I think we're going to come in around $1 to $1.2 trillion in losses.

00:48:56.000 And then the CDO losses themselves will be over another trillion.

00:49:00.000 So we're looking at probably $2.5 trillion in losses, which have been spread worldwide.

00:49:06.000 Well, Bob, that's my next question, because, you know, this paper sold, these bundled mortgages, the bundled credit cards, all of that is then leveraged and loaned out in the fractional reserve system over and over again.

00:49:23.000 Big banks set up subsidiaries to get around the ten times rule.

00:49:27.000 We get into the hundreds of trillions and so these waves just go into other sectors.

00:49:35.000 I mean, what's the time frame until this completely unravels?

00:49:40.000 Hard to say, but it's at least two to three years.

00:49:44.000 And the reason why is ABS really hasn't been attacked yet.

00:49:48.000 It's asset-backed securities.

00:49:49.000 Those are the loans that were securitized that are loans for vehicles, motorcycles.

00:49:57.000 Incidentally, we shorted Harley Davidson way up there, and people are making a pile of money on it.

00:50:03.000 And pools, and mobile homes, and all those kinds of loans There normally are relatively good loans, but we're not in a relatively good economic time and it's going to get worse.

00:50:16.000 Remodeling loans?

00:50:16.000 So the ADMs will come in later.

00:50:20.000 Remodeling loans, small business loans?

00:50:23.000 Exactly.

00:50:25.000 And so those loans will continue to go bad over the next three years and that people will have the same problem that the CDOs have.

00:50:32.000 Within the CDO structure, we're looking at subprimes and we're also looking at ALTA loans.

00:50:39.000 Well, they're going to stretch out over the next year and a half.

00:50:42.000 And coming like a thundering herd behind them is another group called Pick and Pay.

00:50:48.000 I want to hear about Pick and Pay on the other side.

00:50:48.000 Stay there.

00:50:51.000 See, if we had a booming economy, we probably couldn't grow our way out of this.

00:50:55.000 But instead, we've got a contracting one.

00:50:57.000 We'll get Bob's take on the other side.

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00:54:27.000 Bob's going to be with us for a little bit of the next hour, then I'm going to get into your calls, a ton of other global and financial news, as well as political news.

00:54:38.000 Bob, in layman's terms, who stands to gain from this?

00:54:43.000 Why are the elites doing this?

00:54:46.000 And how do you see this unfolding, either on the good side or the bad side?

00:54:54.000 Well, a capitalization is everything was put into motion with the situation in the Middle East geopolitically for oil to continue to keep the dollar being traded as the denomination for oil and one of the excuses that the US used to go into Iraq was that

00:55:22.000 Iraq was trading oil and Euros and other currencies.

00:55:26.000 But there's that aspect of it, and that went completely awry.

00:55:32.000 It's a disaster for the planners, the Illuminati.

00:55:36.000 At the same time, in early 2002, they passed the point of no return.

00:55:41.000 They had set a time plan whereby they would be able to start moving In 2009, 10, and 11 into a recession depression in the United States.

00:56:00.000 And what happened was after they set everything in motion everything went upside down for them and they tried to stop this economic and financial motion into recession and depression and were unable to do so.

00:56:18.000 And then came the exposure of the A misrated CDO problem and the absence of a market for them and so all of these things came to a confluence and the powers behind a government didn't want that to happen because they weren't ready for it.

00:56:38.000 Now they're scrambling to try to keep the system afloat and the system unfortunately in Europe is almost as bad as it is here.

00:56:49.000 And so, Europe has been very badly affected, which wasn't expected, but nobody expected the CDO securitization to fall to pieces, which is essentially what's happened.

00:56:59.000 And Bob, get into that final type of security that you said was unraveling.

00:57:07.000 We were going into break, and you were going to bring up another type of investment that was also going to unravel.

00:57:12.000 Oh, that was the ABS, the anti-theft securities, which we talked about before.

00:57:17.000 And then we talked about the pick and pay, which is a different type of adjustable rate mortgage where you have choices as to what kind of payment you're going to make.

00:57:30.000 And you see those unraveling as well?

00:57:33.000 Well, starting now actually, but in a big way in about a year and a half to two years, those pick and pays are going to start coming due.

00:57:42.000 And the price of houses have gone down and all they've been doing is paying interest and probably nothing on the back of the loan and a home they bought for a million dollars might be worth $850,000 and they're going to have to write a new loan so that means they're going to have to come up with money to be able to make a new loan and they can't do that and there's a tremendous amount of those loans out.

00:58:06.000 In my next publication I have like Downey Savings and Loan and some of the others and And how they're going to get stuck with these things.

00:58:14.000 So, this thing is going to go on a long way in time.

00:58:19.000 And sure, something could happen in the meantime that could, like a Continental Bank disaster, and everything could go down the chute.

00:58:28.000 But in the absence of that, and we can't plan for that.

00:58:32.000 Stay there Bob, we'll be back in 70 seconds.

00:58:34.000 I want to ask you about rabbits they might be able to pull out of hats.

00:58:38.000 Stage terror.

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00:58:49.000 It is... Big Brother.

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00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Bob Chapman is our guest.

00:59:18.000 A little bit into the next segment, then we're going to open the prongs up.

00:59:21.000 Third hour, getting into another in-depth analysis of education, how it was designed the last hundred years to dumb our people down.

00:59:31.000 This is absolutely key.

00:59:33.000 It's not just education in public schools or college, it's the re-education in the corporate world, it's the whole structure of their propaganda.

00:59:41.000 Bob Chapman, I agree with your analysis, and again, even the Financial Times of London, which I found to be the real paper of record, admits a lot of this, just puts their spin on it, that the elite are about four or five years behind.

00:59:53.000 They wanted to have their police state firmly in place.

00:59:58.000 They wanted to have the Middle East tied down so they could force an evaluation of the dollar, but still force the world to accept it as the world reserve currency. 0.93

01:00:07.000 Now that's unraveling.

01:00:09.000 China and Russia are going sideways.

01:00:12.000 The American people have an 11% approval rating for Congress.

01:00:16.000 Both parties are now in the doghouse.

01:00:19.000 A major realignment is happening.

01:00:22.000 If I look at this, the only thing that looks like might save them, but then that will even backfire bigger, but their own Republican memos say it, Democratic strategists, barring finding bin Laden or another big terror attack, they're not going to be able to rally people around to accept politically what's going they're not going to be able to rally people around to accept I see a massive terror attack in the next few months, next year.

01:00:45.000 If they're unable to blame this on somebody or stave it off or slow it down to a crawl, what do you see happening?

01:00:51.000 Well, Well, I think your synopsis on those things are true.

01:00:57.000 But the solution, the solution is the election of Ron Paul and the defeat of all the incumbents in Congress.

01:01:06.000 If we were able to accomplish that, Ron Paul could stand up there and say, look, I'm an honest guy.

01:01:12.000 And I got lots of experience in this, and this is what's wrong, and this is what we've got to do.

01:01:16.000 And whether you like it or not, this is what's going to happen.

01:01:20.000 And it's as simple as that.

01:01:22.000 If you tell the people the truth, they will hang in there, and they will talk it through.

01:01:28.000 Just like they did in the 1930s.

01:01:30.000 Americans are very resilient.

01:01:32.000 All they want is the truth.

01:01:34.000 We don't ever get the truth from Washington, or Wall Street, or from the Fed, or from corporate America.

01:01:40.000 They're always lying!

01:01:42.000 Well, it's rare that they're not lying.

01:01:45.000 Now, am I right in saying, in your educated opinion, Bob Chapman, that the longer this goes with them staying the course, the worse the collapse is going to be?

01:01:55.000 Absolutely, because what's going to happen, they're going to go to Weimarism. 0.97

01:02:00.000 And I write about it for the next issue I was writing about this morning.

01:02:03.000 And the Weimar Republic was the result of the defeat of Germany in the First World War.

01:02:11.000 And the reparations, which means the Germans had to pay the other countries in Europe because they caused damage to them, those reparations were so insane that Germany couldn't pay them, and they just kept on printing money.

01:02:25.000 And in that process, in this Weimar government, they had this tremendous inflation.

01:02:32.000 And we're going to have the same thing, and maybe even worse, if these people in the Fed are given another two or three years To continue pumping out money and credit to keep this system going.

01:02:45.000 Now, studying inflationary spikes and bubbles in history, can you in a nutshell explain that it gets worse and worse exponentially right at the end, and then on a scale of 1 to 100, the real balloon starting at about 70, where are we on that gauge?

01:03:03.000 We are probably at 25.

01:03:05.000 Oh my gosh.

01:03:09.000 We've got a long way to go.

01:03:11.000 And you know, this is what brought Mussolini and Hitler to power. 0.93

01:03:17.000 There was a very interesting book written on the subject called Hitler at Versailles by General Leon de Graal, who was there as a journalist and an attorney, and who laid it all out as to how it happened and why it happened.

01:03:34.000 Well, that's what Dr. Roberts says.

01:03:36.000 The Second World War was created by Versailles.

01:03:39.000 Let's talk about it.

01:03:39.000 Stay there.

01:03:40.000 Versailles Treaty and that railway car.

01:03:43.000 We'll be right back with Bob Chapman's final segment with our guest, TheInternationalForecaster.com.

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01:07:14.000 All right, final segment with Bob Chapman.

01:07:27.000 Thank you.

01:07:30.000 Bob Dacey called in.

01:07:31.000 He's got a book footnoted with a Harvard professor about the family being a disease.

01:07:38.000 We're trying to locate the other textbook that says similar things.

01:07:41.000 Then when his son was going to Sam Houston University for law enforcement, basically teaching him that they're part of a global system, And we got Charlotte Iserby joining us in the next hour to go over all of that because some guy on YouTube, and this is the type of attacks we get, just says we're making all this up.

01:07:57.000 Okay, fine.

01:07:59.000 We've got scores of emails, posts coming in, people finding just all sorts of things where they call the family bad and say they want to get rid of it and call it a disease.

01:08:08.000 All in the PrisonPlanet.com forum.

01:08:09.000 In fact, I've been in there during the breaks looking at it all, so continue please.

01:08:13.000 And Aaron's got a big stack of emails coming in with footnotes and documents and links.

01:08:18.000 So we're going to put a whole story together just for this guy in the next few days and then say, okay, you said we made it up.

01:08:24.000 Here it is, Bubba.

01:08:26.000 Admit you're wrong.

01:08:28.000 You know, Bob Chapman, I don't want to be right.

01:08:31.000 I'm not happy about what's happening.

01:08:33.000 We study this stuff literally 18 hours a day.

01:08:36.000 We are type A personalities.

01:08:38.000 We've done the research.

01:08:39.000 We know what we're talking about on the economy, on the social workers, on how they took over education, on who the globalists are.

01:08:45.000 They have their own textbooks, their own documents.

01:08:47.000 What is it like for you when you talk to people who just won't even check into what we're saying and just call us conspiracy theorists?

01:08:54.000 Well, I get the same thing that you do.

01:08:56.000 So a long time ago, I said that to myself, that if I can rescue one out of a hundred, I'm doing a good job.

01:09:03.000 Because it's so alien, and people have been so brainwashed, and that is a true word for them, they've been propagandized, and they don't know, because they just don't understand, because they've had no exposure to the things that you and I, and others like us, have seeked out over the period of time.

01:09:21.000 And, you know, it's a long process, and what's going to jerk them into reality, A lot of people are starting to listen, though.

01:09:30.000 I mean, ten years ago, 80% of people disagreed with us.

01:09:32.000 Five years ago, half the public agreed.

01:09:33.000 say, look, this is exactly how it happened, and this is what the solution is.

01:09:37.000 It's painful, but we have to do that, but we're not going to make those same mistakes again.

01:09:41.000 A lot of people are starting to listen, though.

01:09:45.000 I mean, 10 years ago, 80% of people disagreed with us.

01:09:48.000 Five years ago, half the public agreed.

01:09:49.000 Now it's a minority that totally disagrees with us, and the others are starting to at least ask questions.

01:09:55.000 I see a tough road ahead for the New World Order architects, for the engineers, and I think that's why they're racing to try to put this whole surveillance, suppression, oppression apparatus in place.

01:10:08.000 Thank you.

01:10:09.000 Well, I think you're certainly right about that, and that's why, and you've known this for a long time, I'm not in the United States.

01:10:18.000 But I think the institutions within the structure, which you brought up before, and I showed the dichotomous nature, Between the European Illuminati and the U.S.

01:10:28.000 This morning, Forbes came out with an article that says U.S.

01:10:31.000 dollar policy amounts to Zimbabwe economics.

01:10:36.000 Now, would you have thought you'd see something like that just two or three years ago?

01:10:40.000 The answer is no.

01:10:41.000 No, they only say the Fed was God and could do no wrong and was perfect.

01:10:46.000 And so, they want to be accepted.

01:10:48.000 They see the writing on the wall.

01:10:50.000 The Fed is being isolated.

01:10:52.000 Wall Street is being isolated.

01:10:53.000 I agree.

01:10:54.000 Whether they like it or not, you get Jim Cramer saying, no, these people out there are right.

01:10:59.000 The Fed's doing the wrong thing.

01:11:01.000 Yeah, I really think, as much as I want to like Cramer, he's an insider, and I've seen him do a lot of bad stuff in the past, I think he sees the writing on the wall as one of the first big rats to jump ship.

01:11:11.000 Exactly.

01:11:13.000 Exactly. 0.53

01:11:14.000 And believe me, he's not dumb. 0.98

01:11:16.000 No, he's... I mean, you're a top market guy yourself, very successful, biggest newsletter ever, and, you know, one of the biggest stockbrokers out there, and one of the biggest gold brokers out there.

01:11:26.000 What do you... what's your assessment of Jim Cramer?

01:11:30.000 Well, I think, first of all, he's been very successful.

01:11:33.000 He had an excellent education.

01:11:35.000 He went to Harvard.

01:11:36.000 And I think he's been through the battle on Wall Street like I have.

01:11:43.000 His main The point in life was to make a lot of money, which I'm sure he has.

01:11:50.000 And now I think he's looking over the field and he's seeing things that he didn't see before.

01:11:57.000 And he's coming to the realization that, gee, I've been working in this thing called Wall Street, which really is just a slime pit.

01:12:05.000 And, you know, let's find out why it's that way.

01:12:11.000 We were talking about Hitler coming to power out of what developed in Versailles at the close of World War II there at that little railway station.

01:12:22.000 And to talk about the wicked foresight of Lord Milner, I was just rereading last night over official congressional reports about the funding of the Bolsheviks out of New York and London, and how Lord Milner, for the Queen of England, gave even more than Warburg did in gold to send 250 people out of Brooklyn on that train full of gold and machine guns in to take over Petrograd first.

01:12:46.000 Well, they were, and of course then Max Warburg, his brother, was running the finances in Germany.

01:12:51.000 Again, we're supposedly fighting with Germany, but they're at the end of World War II, World War I, already backstabbing the Czars, the first cousins of the Saxe-Coburg Gothas. 0.92

01:13:01.000 They're in England, the royal family.

01:13:03.000 Again, these aren't any one country.

01:13:05.000 They engineer these mass Collapses to then pick up the pieces and I see them doing that now in a way almost blaming the Federal Reserve when they're just a appendage of the same creature.

01:13:19.000 Well you're right.

01:13:20.000 And what you have to figure out is what direction they're going to go in.

01:13:24.000 And now that we're getting close to or we are figuring out what they're doing, which we weren't able to do before, let's say over 50 years ago, And we've got the internet, and now we're able to inform all of these people out there throughout the world, mind you, of what's going on because of the knowledge like you just talked about, the research that you do and I do and others like us.

01:13:46.000 It's opening people's eyes, and it's so, so important.

01:13:52.000 And where are they going next?

01:13:55.000 That is hard to say, but we can guess.

01:13:58.000 Well, the cold-blooded calculation, this is published, this is mainstream, of Lord Milner in the 20s, saying Germany's going to implode, then we're going to put a strong man in, who we will then set up, he won't even really work for us, we'll just finance him, but psychologically we'll assess a nutcase, to then destroy everything, then we'll come in and pick up the pieces, but first we've already brought down Russia. 0.76

01:14:19.000 I mean, these guys are geniuses.

01:14:21.000 The people running this really are just literally burning with wicked intellect.

01:14:26.000 Well, they also make some pretty big mistakes.

01:14:30.000 And they did in 1348 when the Lombard system collapsed.

01:14:36.000 They did it at the Ancient League in the 1600s when that collapsed.

01:14:40.000 And just here in America, in the last couple of hundred years, they've had one panic after another.

01:14:47.000 So they do make lots of mistakes.

01:14:49.000 But obviously, in the final analysis, they make less than Others do, so they remain in power. 0.99

01:14:56.000 Well, I think the debate hinges on what was mistakes and what was engineered.

01:15:01.000 Go ahead.

01:15:03.000 Well, I think this time they are scared to death that the world is finally going to find out what they've been up to for a thousand years.

01:15:11.000 That's what they're afraid of.

01:15:13.000 This whole thing is going to be exposed and everybody will understand it, who wants to understand it, and their game will be over.

01:15:22.000 I agree with you, but in that violent death spasm, there's no end.

01:15:28.000 I mean, they'll shut off nukes and say Al Qaeda did it, just to pose as the saviors and rally support and keep people in their orbit. 0.57

01:15:35.000 I think you're right, and I think that hopefully we'll survive and be able to bring the message so they won't come out the other end whole, even if they survive.

01:15:47.000 There'll be people there who will be able to say, we know that you did this.

01:15:50.000 How many people, you were in counterintelligence, and a lot of other folks who fight the New World Order, who were patriots for this country, I mean, the thinkers left in government, a lot of them I've talked to, they know exactly what's going on, they're just as angry as we are, but they're within a system where they can't do much.

01:16:06.000 Well, that's absolutely the truth, and if you're in corporate America, or on Wall Street, you're in the same bag, because Let's say you're an analyst or an economist, and you think that the stock market's going to go down.

01:16:22.000 And you're on Wall Street, whether it's a bank, insurance company, or in a brokerage firm.

01:16:26.000 And you say to management, I'm going to write a report, and the market's going down, and they're going to say, you write that report, and you're out of here.

01:16:35.000 And that's why economists and analysts are wrong two-thirds of the time, because they can't tell the truth.

01:16:41.000 Well, O'Neill back in 2002 said that, and they said, get out of here.

01:16:47.000 It's amazing.

01:16:48.000 TheInternationalForecaster.com.

01:16:50.000 Bob, thank you again for coming on with your great analysis and foresight.

01:16:53.000 We'll be talking to you next week, and we appreciate you spending time with us.

01:16:57.000 Thank you very much.

01:16:58.000 I'll talk to you later.

01:16:59.000 Bye-bye.

01:17:00.000 All right.

01:17:00.000 I'm not going to spend too much more time on the finances and what's happening.

01:17:03.000 We're going to be taking your calls at the bottom of the hour, but now I want to bring Ted Anderson up instantly with a gold offer.

01:17:08.000 He's got gold at the price two weeks ago.

01:17:10.000 It's above 900 right now.

01:17:12.000 If you've got the capital to move into gold and silver, I would do it right now.

01:17:16.000 Ted Anderson, we just heard the analysis.

01:17:19.000 This is a no-brainer.

01:17:20.000 I hope people will get into precious metals, and I know you've got a deal that's fabulous.

01:17:24.000 It's really a good buy at this particular time.

01:17:27.000 We still have those British Sovereigns. 0.98

01:17:29.000 They're currently right now at $245.

01:17:30.000 They're going to be moving up.

01:17:32.000 Gold is up over $22 an ounce today alone.

01:17:36.000 We have the Franks up at $196.

01:17:38.000 I have $5 gold pieces.

01:17:40.000 The same exact price the last time I was on the air with you.

01:17:43.000 That piece is going to be definitely reflecting the prices of the gold increase.

01:17:48.000 Like I said, $22 bucks up.

01:17:51.000 And you've got rolls of silver at 400.

01:17:53.000 That's going up.

01:17:54.000 Give people the number.

01:17:55.000 Again, that's 1-800-686-2237.

01:17:55.000 1-800-686-2237.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, 1-800-686-2237.

01:17:58.000 Again, that's 1-800-686-2237.

01:18:02.000 You'll have the, you know, if you have the foresight to get into precious metals now, the handwriting is on the wall.

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01:18:29.000 Ted, you've gotten airplanes with the Ron Paul Air Corps up over Michigan, New Hampshire, It is a big idea.

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01:18:36.000 other places.

01:18:37.000 They're going to be over Texas, Florida.

01:18:38.000 I want to hear about that on the other side.

01:18:40.000 Give us an update on the Ron Paul Air Corps that you launched with the listeners on the other side of this quick break.

01:18:45.000 Then your calls.

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01:18:57.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by our government.

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01:19:04.000 Yeah.

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01:23:06.000 Oh, by the way, Ted and the network, he's the guy that founded this network, finances through thick and thin, off his metal sales, and he's giving you offers, deals, where I don't know, I've asked him before, like $4 or $5 a coin.

01:23:24.000 These are just introductory offers at the price of gold a few weeks ago.

01:23:28.000 It's way above $900 today.

01:23:31.000 You're crazy if you don't give him a call.

01:23:33.000 Ask him about the Alex Jones Special.

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01:23:35.000 I want to get briefly to the Ron Paul Air Corps and then come back and take calls, Ted.

01:23:39.000 I want to get briefly to the Ron Paul Air Corps and then come back and take calls, Ted.

01:23:43.000 But again, we were telling people to get into gold at $300 an ounce.

01:23:48.000 The stock market is way down, even if you see it at its official number of $12,000 or $11,000 something.

01:23:56.000 The dollar's devalued.

01:23:58.000 It's such a no-brainer for people to protect themselves, but they don't advertise it.

01:24:04.000 It isn't something in the culture.

01:24:05.000 People I've talked to don't even know how to physically hold gold, or they say, oh, I own gold certificates.

01:24:10.000 Look, you need to physically hold it.

01:24:12.000 Ted, how important is that?

01:24:13.000 Oh, you've got to physically hold it.

01:24:14.000 I mean, just take a look at what happened to Norfed when they had the silver certificates and the silver was stored up there in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

01:24:22.000 You've got a Ron Paul dollar now.

01:24:23.000 Yeah, the Feds just came in and took it all, and all of a sudden now the people holding the paper have something that's worthless.

01:24:29.000 And it's easy to grab one or two volts.

01:24:30.000 It's harder when it's in millions of people's hands.

01:24:32.000 Exactly.

01:24:33.000 You really need to have it in your hands.

01:24:35.000 I mean, if you're hungry, do you want to have a picture of a can of beans on your table, or would you rather have the can of beans?

01:24:40.000 And that's what it comes down to, because if you have the gold and silver, you're going to be able to trade.

01:24:44.000 There's no question about it.

01:24:45.000 You're going to be able to do the things you need to do.

01:24:47.000 You've got to have it in your own possession.

01:24:49.000 You've got the British sovereigns, you've got the Franks, European Franks. 0.99

01:24:52.000 They could be French, Swiss, it's a mix.

01:24:54.000 And then, of course, you've got the silver dollar rolls, which is just an amazing deal.

01:24:59.000 Ted, getting back, though, right now into the Ron Paul Air Corps, it's confusing for folks.

01:25:05.000 It'll say $18,000 on there, but before that you had a PayPal that raised $15,000 or something.

01:25:10.000 I gave $1,000, but most of that's just the listeners out there.

01:25:14.000 And it all goes to putting airplanes in the air.

01:25:19.000 We also tell you how to call people, get your own airplane up, we don't care.

01:25:22.000 Tell folks where you, where we put airplanes up, and where we're gonna put them up, and then how much we need to continue that.

01:25:28.000 Well, we flew New Hampshire, we flew Reno, Nevada, we've flown, uh, um, gosh, there's a whole long list of them, I can't even remember.

01:25:34.000 Iowa.

01:25:35.000 Yeah, Iowa was... Michigan.

01:25:37.000 Michigan, yeah, we flew there, um... Nevada.

01:25:39.000 Yep.

01:25:40.000 That video's up.

01:25:41.000 Now I can tell you right now on tomorrow, February 25th, that we will be flying Boston, Massachusetts and Salt Lake City at the same time.

01:25:41.000 Yep.

01:25:49.000 And then right after that we move on into Nashville, Tennessee on Sunday the 27th.

01:25:54.000 And the reason for that is that's where John Paul's having his rally and we're showing support for him.

01:25:59.000 And then on the 29th we move into Miami.

01:26:02.000 Florida, Tampa, Florida, Pensacola, Florida, and one of the banners being flown into Phoenix, Arizona for the Super Bowl.

01:26:09.000 We'll be flying that three days in a row to get all the publicity we can get there.

01:26:14.000 Then we move on to Birmingham.

01:26:15.000 Now see, Chad, I've been so busy I don't even know about that.

01:26:17.000 The Super Bowl!

01:26:19.000 Yeah, I mean, you're going wild.

01:26:20.000 And look, he just won second place in Nevada, second place in New Orleans, in Louisiana.

01:26:27.000 They're not, the media's not covering this.

01:26:29.000 Folks, this is viable, and regardless, I'm going to tell you, there's going to be a third-party run.

01:26:34.000 That's pretty much in if he doesn't get it.

01:26:36.000 We're injecting real issues as all this happens to the economy.

01:26:40.000 This is a win-win-win-win-win.

01:26:42.000 Yeah, there's no question about it.

01:26:43.000 We keep on bringing it to people's attention.

01:26:45.000 And when you see a banner this big, it's 30 by 90 flying over your head, you're going to look up.

01:26:51.000 Everybody knows it flies through.

01:26:53.000 I've had so many people call me up and say they've seen it.

01:26:56.000 Again, from there we go to Portland, we're going to Denver.

01:26:58.000 Well, the Ron Paul campaign sees it everywhere they go.

01:27:02.000 And again, that's Ted Anderson taking action.

01:27:04.000 That's you, the listener.

01:27:06.000 Taking action.

01:27:07.000 And I know I talked to Ted behind the scenes.

01:27:09.000 He's paying for the employees that are getting these planes up, working, sending the checks, doing it all, just out of the network's pocket.

01:27:16.000 Ted, is it okay to say on air what you put $8,000 in this or something?

01:27:21.000 Yes, it's probably closer to $12,000 now, but it's well worth it.

01:27:25.000 That's on top of the $40,000 or whatever that's come in.

01:27:28.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:27:29.000 And I'm sure we'll get more donations, too.

01:27:31.000 I mean, New York City, we need to hit the St. 0.74

01:27:33.000 Louis... By the way, every Saturday I call Ted up and he's out knocking on doors two or three times.

01:27:38.000 I mean, Ted, you're even on the ground, too.

01:27:39.000 You're going crazy.

01:27:40.000 Well, I know.

01:27:41.000 I'm going out there with the Minnesota Campaign and dropping leaflets and talking to people and trying to just convince as many people as we can.

01:27:48.000 Right now we have the caucuses coming up.

01:27:50.000 February 5th is Super Tuesday and we need to have as many people signed up as precinct captains and delegates of the precincts to move on up.

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01:28:03.000 He's getting second place now over and over again.

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01:28:15.000 Go watch all the videos.

01:28:16.000 There's a bunch of them all over these different states.

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01:28:22.000 Ted Anderson, thank you so much for all you do.

01:28:25.000 Hey, thanks a lot for having me up again, Alex.

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01:32:48.000 Rourke in Texas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

01:32:52.000 Hi Alex.

01:32:53.000 Hi.

01:32:56.000 I've been thinking a lot about the monetary system and it's come to my mind that it's pretty much an exploitable framework and that if we return to that framework Don't you think it will just lead us down the same path that we're on now?

01:33:14.000 Well yeah, I mean if we had total liberty again, tyranny would start right back over again.

01:33:18.000 It's an eternal fight against good and evil.

01:33:21.000 But to say things are corrupt and so it'll be exploitable regardless, we better just give up.

01:33:26.000 is a cop-out.

01:33:27.000 I mean, we have a very, very corrupt system right now.

01:33:31.000 The entire ether in which we swim financially and economically, societally, is controlled.

01:33:37.000 We have to first get the public to recognize they're in a controlled paradigm to then break out of that.

01:33:42.000 Will we then be still in a controlled paradigm?

01:33:43.000 Yes, but to a lesser extent.

01:33:45.000 It's a process.

01:33:46.000 Well, no.

01:33:47.000 Actually, I think, you know, I see money as an illusion pretty much.

01:33:54.000 Well, it is, but you have to have some type of agreed upon exchange.

01:33:57.000 If you've got a pure barter, and barter is certainly a good thing on certain levels, it then stagnates commerce.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, but I think the assembly line and mass production have sort of skewed the need for exacting trade.

01:34:12.000 Well, certainly it's decimated communities and the market, ground market, the classic market interaction.

01:34:19.000 It's dehumanized us to a certain extent.

01:34:21.000 We have to then value again the farmer's market and the more classical modes of homo sapien, sapien interaction.

01:34:28.000 Well, no, my idea would be to Have the people that have the assembly lines just go ahead and meet demand with no money involved at all.

01:34:39.000 Yeah, but you can't do that because there's going to be people who are over the assembly lines and then they claim that there's no demand.

01:34:44.000 Human demand is driven by necessity and by desire and by class structures and signage and totems of dominance in a hierarchical mammalian framework.

01:34:56.000 Well, well.

01:35:02.000 Do you understand what I just said to you?

01:35:05.000 Yeah, but I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

01:35:08.000 I'm saying... Flush it out!

01:35:09.000 Like, yeah, imagine a system with no money.

01:35:14.000 Money doesn't exist.

01:35:15.000 You just build something because you want to create it.

01:35:18.000 You bring it into existence... Let me just stop you.

01:35:22.000 Let me just stop you. 0.99

01:35:23.000 Sir, I mean, you're... We haven't reached the singularity yet.

01:35:27.000 of industry or technology or thought, and we probably never will reach some ultimate singularity, only God, you know, a philosopher would say has that.

01:35:37.000 God is a singularity.

01:35:40.000 To say that you're going to get the raw materials, to say that you're going to be able to have the space to build it without ownership, you talk about not having money, not having ownership, the space to even build it, the space to be able to trade, to get the pieces you need because you build it because you want to build it.

01:35:57.000 I mean, that's not... I mean, basic matter and the basic mathematical equations of matter and energy negates what you're saying.

01:36:08.000 I don't... No, just... Ownership would remain, but money would be eliminated.

01:36:15.000 Okay, money would be eliminated and then we would own things and then we would trade mechanisms we've designed?

01:36:22.000 Well, you wouldn't have to trade.

01:36:23.000 There's no need for exacting trade.

01:36:26.000 You wouldn't have to get something in return.

01:36:27.000 If you own an assembly line, you would just produce the goods and then give them away.

01:36:33.000 How would you get the raw materials to produce the goods?

01:36:36.000 They would be given to you.

01:36:38.000 They would be given to you?

01:36:40.000 That's how human life works?

01:36:42.000 Well, uh, you know, it has to come from somewhere.

01:36:45.000 Look, look, look, sir, I, I, I, look, I see where you're going with this, and it's not in, it's not based in reality, and I'm not trying to be mean to you.

01:36:54.000 People all the time call me up, they email me, they write me, and they say, why doesn't Alex Jones give his videos for free?

01:37:02.000 And up until the YouTube age, with no production, uh, no nothing, just an internet connection for ten bucks a month or whatever you're paying, twenty bucks, fifty bucks, depending on the connection, right?

01:37:13.000 You can sit there and do videos for free with no real production quality.

01:37:18.000 You're still giving your time and energy.

01:37:19.000 If you wanted to do it professionally, you'd probably need some money to live and buy food and heat your home, cool your home, pay for transportation, medical care.

01:37:27.000 But me, expensive $5,000, $10,000 cameras, $7,000 computers, power, paying a couple of employees, having enough money to once or twice a year go to the Texas beach and take off a few days and stay in a mid-grade hotel room.

01:37:46.000 But...

01:37:47.000 People actually say, just give us your videos.

01:37:50.000 Well, I can't give them.

01:37:52.000 I mean, they say not only is it not enough that you make copies of your films, they make copies for free, but there are a lot of them are on Google for free.

01:37:59.000 That's not enough.

01:38:00.000 We want you to physically mail us package tapes you paid to produce, you put your time and energy into produce, and then you want me to mail them to you for free.

01:38:11.000 There would have had to be capital and assets at the beginning of that that came from somewhere to give it to you, and as soon as that capital was exhausted, I could no longer have the money to mail it to you, or to mass produce it, or to pay someone to stick it in the package, or to pay for the package itself.

01:38:29.000 Nevertheless, people email me, they write me, and they say, we want it all for free.

01:38:37.000 And if I was worth billions of dollars, believe me, I would do it for free.

01:38:40.000 The big tax-free foundations that got their wealth through theft, that have the government pay them corporate welfare, they do, quote, do things for free, but that is to institute a climate that on the downside, or upside, however you see it, then telegraphs and conduits wealth into their hands.

01:38:57.000 So we'll put in a few cents of foundation monies, which is billions, for the return of trillions.

01:39:04.000 So, that's why communism and socialism doesn't work.

01:39:07.000 We're not fire ants.

01:39:08.000 We're not honey bees.

01:39:10.000 We're not communal army ants.

01:39:12.000 We don't operate off of pheromones, you know, completely.

01:39:17.000 Genetically designed in a hive system.

01:39:20.000 I'm really getting off into sociology now, Aaron.

01:39:22.000 Getting into animal interaction, animal psychology.

01:39:30.000 It's hard to believe that he was even serious, but he sounded like a well-meaning person.

01:39:35.000 He sounded stoned out of his gourd.

01:39:37.000 I know, though.

01:39:37.000 I'm not trying to be mean to you, sir, but I bet money you've been smoking weed today.

01:39:41.000 I just know that dope, dope sound.

01:39:43.000 It's like a, yeah, you know.

01:39:47.000 What if genies came out of bottles and made it all good?

01:39:52.000 Well, then we'd lay on our back and turn into blobs.

01:39:54.000 We're meant to have hardship.

01:39:55.000 We're meant to struggle.

01:39:56.000 That's how we developed.

01:39:57.000 That's what we're designed to do.

01:40:00.000 You're not happy unless you're struggling.

01:40:01.000 You're not happy unless you're building.

01:40:04.000 Now, some of the greatest contributions in history, I would add, sir, were from people that just wanted to build it and give it to society.

01:40:10.000 I agree that that happens.

01:40:11.000 But then it still takes money and capital to further develop it, and then advertise it, and then deploy it.

01:40:19.000 I've got to move faster because I've got Bob Dacey coming up in a minute.

01:40:22.000 Brian in New York.

01:40:23.000 Go ahead, Brian.

01:40:27.000 Yes, Brian.

01:40:29.000 I have a transcript here of Ron Paul's speech to the House of Representatives in 2006.

01:40:36.000 Okay.

01:40:37.000 And in this, he's talking about Saddam Hussein trading oil in Euros instead of dollars.

01:40:47.000 Yes.

01:40:47.000 And then Iran, and then Venezuela.

01:40:52.000 Yes.

01:40:54.000 And it seems to me that this current crisis is in a It's designed to get out of control to consolidate wealth.

01:41:08.000 The globalists control the issuance of liquidity, currency, credit, so they can't help but use it to take control of everything.

01:41:15.000 But they didn't control Saddam Hussein and these acts of evil that are sabotaging our dollar. 0.94

01:41:20.000 Well, they put him in power.

01:41:22.000 And then they got mad at him for over-pumping oil and driving down prices in 1990 in an attempt to pay back $30-plus billion to BCCI Bank and others.

01:41:33.000 But, I mean, he even says in this speech, the war is actually to try to prop up our dollar.

01:41:42.000 Well, that's a small part of it, and I don't completely agree with that.

01:41:44.000 That's one tiny slice of the onion, one layer.

01:41:52.000 But you still think this is a pre-planned land grab like it was in the Great Depression?

01:42:01.000 There are different strata to this elite, but the dominant group precipitated the beginning of the down cycle or the implosion of the weakest link, the subprime housing market boom.

01:42:18.000 We've been saying that for three years.

01:42:19.000 They precipitated that To then consolidate smaller institutions of lending and to further flesh that out.

01:42:30.000 Yes, sir.

01:42:31.000 So they're going for all the land?

01:42:34.000 Like whenever one mortgages, they foreclose on the houses and then they basically come up with all the land in the end?

01:42:40.000 Yes, and then Bush and the rest of them are acting like they're trying to do something with some $800 tax credit and freezing mortgages.

01:42:47.000 All right.

01:42:53.000 I'm not totally convinced, though.

01:42:55.000 Well, hey, don't be convinced.

01:42:57.000 You know, regardless, we have a fiat money system, and that's engineered, that's planned, and it's unraveling right now.

01:43:06.000 Okay?

01:43:06.000 And the Financial Times of London and others have reported that the big central banks and the families that own them stand to gain from this.

01:43:14.000 I mean, do you know what dollar devaluation has done for international institutions to come in and buy up infrastructure?

01:43:20.000 Have you read the IMF World Bank leaked documents of 2002?

01:43:24.000 No.

01:43:26.000 Did you hear me interview Joseph Stiklitz?

01:43:30.000 I may have, I'm not sure.

01:43:31.000 Brian, I'm glad you're asking real questions.

01:43:33.000 I mean, we can debate.

01:43:35.000 See, there's different subgroups.

01:43:37.000 They're still interconnected, but there's different groups jockeying within this system, okay?

01:43:43.000 So there's different plans, different aims, but they're overlapping, going on at the same time.

01:43:50.000 But it seems like Saddam Hussein really threw a monkey wrench into their plans. 0.85

01:43:55.000 Saddam Hussein's oil revenues were much smaller than even Venezuela or the biggest oil exporter and producer, Saudi Arabia.

01:44:05.000 And so we hear on the news now that Iran going off the dollars caused all that.

01:44:09.000 That is tiny.

01:44:10.000 No, it's globally.

01:44:12.000 China, two years ago, moving away from the dollar into a basket of currencies.

01:44:15.000 The euro expanding, moving away from the dollar.

01:44:18.000 Russia, gradually moving out of the dollar.

01:44:20.000 It's a global move.

01:44:22.000 But, are these same as Russia and China?

01:44:26.000 I mean, are they controlled by the same interests that it controls?

01:44:29.000 They have been controlled and were set up by the same interests.

01:44:32.000 And they're interlocking and own some of the same companies together.

01:44:36.000 But there is internal warfare that goes on.

01:44:41.000 So it's a little of both?

01:44:43.000 It's a little of both.

01:44:44.000 But you have to understand, and I appreciate your call, the IMF and the World Bank and others, and UN official documents going back 12 years ago, stated they had to give us a false choice of a left-right global hegemon.

01:44:56.000 They need a bipolar dichotomy or a dialectic to give you false choices.

01:45:01.000 So they own stock in, have control in the eastern system, And Europe is kind of the tip of the pyramid, playing the two false bipolars of East and West off against each other, while the European oligarchy system has controlling positions in both of the two false bipolar systems. 0.72

01:45:27.000 Okay?

01:45:27.000 This is stated in their economic theorem.

01:45:30.000 It's like earlier I talked about how you had Max Warburg overrunning the German banking system, During World War I, into the 20s, and then you had his brother, the other Warburg, over here, running the Federal Reserve, and then financing the Bolsheviks, during and at the end of World War I, to go attack the Soviets, excuse me, the Czarists, to bring in the Communists, the Bolsheviks.

01:45:55.000 At the very same time, they were the U.S.

01:45:57.000 and Britain and France's allies against Germany.

01:46:00.000 You see how that works?

01:46:02.000 That's why they're in control.

01:46:03.000 They're masters of that, of three-dimensional, multi-level chess.

01:46:08.000 Alright, I'm going to get to everybody, Seth and Bill and folks in Oregon that are calling, but I want to set this up properly.

01:46:18.000 We've got Charlotte Isserby coming on, number two, Department of Education, Head of Policy, Department of Education under Reagan. 0.99

01:46:25.000 Her dad was Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, Eastern Establishment.

01:46:29.000 She's quite accomplished herself.

01:46:31.000 Uh, in the Foreign Service and then coming back here in the U.S.

01:46:35.000 She went there and was at the highest levels and found out there was a plan to dumb everybody down, to break up the family.

01:46:40.000 The family was the enemy.

01:46:41.000 She's got quotes coming up to go over this because, uh, a ne'er-do-well, uh, on, uh, YouTube, a little trendy know-it-all, the guy says he's 33 and he looks like a little girl.

01:46:51.000 I mean, just totally, and I'm not trying to say people that don't look old when they're 33 are weak, but I mean, he just looks like a child.

01:46:58.000 up there with his little beard trying to look like a big man, you know, with his costume, festooning his cheeks, saying, I believe in space aliens and Bush is space aliens, and totally made up.

01:47:12.000 And then he goes into saying, I never back up with any quotes or books or documents.

01:47:15.000 I just saw this last night.

01:47:17.000 And so we're going to put an article together on Jones Report the next few days with dozens of these quotes and documents.

01:47:22.000 And we're going to disprove this guy.

01:47:24.000 But I got Bob on the phone.

01:47:25.000 He dug out one of the books.

01:47:27.000 There's another textbook his son had.

01:47:28.000 His son is now a police officer and off.

01:47:30.000 This was five years ago.

01:47:33.000 I'm going from memory here, but Bob does have the actual quotes and footnotes.

01:47:37.000 Bob, thanks for holding.

01:47:38.000 Hey, thanks for having me on, Alex.

01:47:39.000 I heard you talking about me at the beginning of the show, and that was really old.

01:47:42.000 That was a long time ago, so I thought I would scratch my memory.

01:47:46.000 I think the quote you're looking for was from a book called None Dare Call It Education.

01:47:52.000 My son's book was called Comparative Criminal Justice when he was a student at Sam Houston State University.

01:47:58.000 And let's get into that in a minute.

01:47:59.000 One time you also brought me an ACC book, and you probably don't remember that, but we'll flesh that out in the time to come.

01:48:05.000 But for those just now joining us, again, this is footnoted in the book.

01:48:10.000 Give people the quote.

01:48:12.000 Okay, this is in a book called None Dare Call It Education by John Stormer.

01:48:16.000 It's out there.

01:48:17.000 It's readily available.

01:48:19.000 And in the book he quotes a meeting, and this has to do with UNESCO, the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization, which is trying to dumb down the students of the United States of America.

01:48:32.000 And it's talking about a meeting that was held in Denver in 1973 called the Childhood International Education Seminar.

01:48:42.000 And at that seminar in 1973, a Chester M. Pierce, M.D., who was a professor of education and psychiatry at Harvard University, told educators at the meeting, quote, now here it is, ladies and gentlemen, this is a quote, Chester M. Pierce, M.D.

01:48:59.000 Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity.

01:49:21.000 It's up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the international child of the future. 0.99

01:49:31.000 Now, everybody actually has that from federal documents, and we have that one, Bob.

01:49:35.000 No, it was an ACC textbook.

01:49:37.000 You brought me photocopies of it.

01:49:39.000 I showed it on television, where they say something similar, but they say it's a bygone, prehistoric thing.

01:49:45.000 It's a disease.

01:49:46.000 But there's so many quotes.

01:49:48.000 Stay there.

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01:51:53.000 All right, Dad.

01:51:55.000 Let me get this straight.

01:51:56.000 I'm sure all of this takes place in the future, right?

01:51:58.000 Like Star Wars?

01:51:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:52:00.000 Slightly in the future.

01:52:01.000 Wait a second.

01:52:02.000 I thought Star Wars took place a long, long time ago.

01:52:05.000 All right, Einstein.

01:52:06.000 But it is kind of like Star Wars anyway.

01:52:09.000 Just like Star Wars, there's an evil empire and some people have started an armed rebellion to fight the evil empire.

01:52:16.000 Okay, so don't tell me.

01:52:17.000 They're going to the bad guys again?

01:52:19.000 Yep, that's right.

01:52:20.000 Oh, so your character's like Luke Skywalker?

01:52:23.000 Not exactly.

01:52:24.000 I know, you're Chewbacca!

01:52:26.000 Not really, but my character does help the rebellion to stop the government's evil tracking system, which is happening now in the real world, just like in Uncivil Liberties.

01:52:35.000 Wait a second, they can't track us, it's a free country!

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01:52:54.000 Yeah, this guy on YouTube that was attacking me, He shows us who he really is because first he says I believe that space aliens run things and George Bush is a space alien.

01:53:17.000 Never said that.

01:53:18.000 Never.

01:53:18.000 I don't talk about UFOs on this show.

01:53:20.000 I talk about documents, bills, legislation.

01:53:23.000 And then he goes on to say, well, of course we need police and social workers watching over the kids looking for pre-crime.

01:53:29.000 You know, again, guilty until proven innocent.

01:53:31.000 A surveillance grid.

01:53:32.000 He doesn't even see these spies everywhere.

01:53:35.000 And here in Austin, it's in Road to Tyrney, they hand out little credit cards of 200 bucks per family member they turn in.

01:53:41.000 It's on local news.

01:53:43.000 They run TV ads saying, kids, turn your parents in.

01:53:45.000 What's in their medicine cabinet?

01:53:47.000 He thinks all this, this is not normal, but that shows how they've grown up in it, and they're the good, you can tell on this little power trip, they're the social workers.

01:53:56.000 They're going to decide.

01:53:57.000 They're going to, you go get a degree, and you get to run everybody's life, and have your way with people.

01:54:02.000 I've been there when the social workers are taking newborn babies from poor families with no criminal record, just because they're too ignorant, and poor, and on welfare, because the baby's blonde-haired, blue-eyed, and they can get 300 grand for it.

01:54:12.000 I've been there, and I've cried my guts out.

01:54:15.000 I've opened the door and seen the cops choking a woman into signing the baby over. 0.95

01:54:18.000 I've seen hell.

01:54:20.000 And I've seen them get on TV and say it's the law, you gotta take shots through the health department.

01:54:24.000 When there's no law, you gotta take vaccines.

01:54:26.000 And these punks will get up there and say there is a law. 1.00

01:54:28.000 Bob, go ahead.

01:54:31.000 I think what the book my son had as part of his requirements of learning how to be a cop down at Sam Houston.

01:54:38.000 This book was teaching the cop, was dumbing down the cops, Alex.

01:54:41.000 What they were doing is they were teaching future cops of America that our criminal justice system needs to be gotten rid of and we need to look at other countries like China and what not to figure out how to do things. 0.83

01:54:54.000 This book was to dumb down the cops and attack the American jury system.

01:54:58.000 I remember it said juries were bad.

01:55:01.000 Do you have those quotes?

01:55:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:03.000 Let's go over those too.

01:55:05.000 Yeah, I basically, this is a compendium of writings of these pseudo-intellectuals in the field of criminal justice and under a topic called criticism of the Anglo-American trial jury.

01:55:18.000 They quote a fellow by the name of, an extreme critic of it, called Jerome Frank, who labeled the jury as the worst possible enemy of the ideal of supremacy of law.

01:55:28.000 And so there is ample evidence that respected legal analysts and researchers have grave doubts about the Anglo-American trial jury.

01:55:35.000 And one of the things that they really criticize them on is this.

01:55:40.000 Jurors deliberately do not apply the law as instructed and that they instead choose to ignore the existing law in order to reach a desired decision in the case.

01:55:49.000 In other words, they are attacking jury nullification, which of course is one of the foundations of our country.

01:55:56.000 So because of jury nullification and other things, they want to get rid of it.

01:55:59.000 And they say, you know, you can't You can't responsibly get rid of the jury unless, of course, you study other methods of trial which could achieve the same basic results.

01:56:07.000 And then this book goes into a whole bunch of, they study the jurisprudent systems of communist China and places like that as alternatives to what we have today.

01:56:17.000 And I remember you brought photos on the show of big cases when you go in the big law enforcement center, and it's all Chinese badges and how good it is.

01:56:24.000 What that was was in the lobby of the George Beto Criminal Justice Building at Sam Houston State University, which is, of course, a premier law enforcement university in the United States.

01:56:37.000 Now, now, now you talk to your son.

01:56:38.000 I've seen him out at a few rallies over the last few years.

01:56:40.000 He's now down in Houston.

01:56:42.000 Uh, is he saying the other cops are waking up to what's going on right now?

01:56:45.000 I haven't talked to him about that.

01:56:46.000 He's in a, he's in a pretty good department down in Pearland.

01:56:49.000 They actually do cop work down there and, and the, and the people like them because they actually do police work.

01:56:55.000 He's not in a politicized environment down there.

01:56:58.000 He's in a traditional cop environment and I'm glad he is.

01:57:00.000 He's in Mayberry, huh?

01:57:02.000 Yeah, he's not like up here in Austin where you can't even defend yourself or your police chief will get you fired.

01:57:08.000 You know, things like that.

01:57:10.000 But the medals he was talking about, and he took photographs of, that I had seen, were Communist Chinese police medals and Soviet Union police medals on display in the lobby of the... And it says, this is good.

01:57:23.000 This is... Stay there, Bob.

01:57:24.000 I did find some more quotes.

01:57:26.000 I want you to recap that other quote.

01:57:28.000 And I really appreciate everybody that's in the PrisonPlanet.com forum.

01:57:33.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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01:57:40.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Alright, if you go to the PrisonPlanet.com forum, and go halfway down, it says... Well, there's a link there.

01:58:17.000 Let me go back to the actual link.

01:58:18.000 At the top of it, it says if you find... When you find Social Work 101 Family as a Disease System posted here, this has only been going about an hour and a half, and I've read over a bunch of quotes and things that I hadn't seen that back up what we're saying, but I did find one that I do remember reading, Because listeners mail me these books, and there are a lot of professors and scholars and researchers that listen to the show, and it says, Sociology, A Brief Introduction.

01:58:48.000 And by the way, just during the break, I googled this and found the opening introduction online, because Amazon does that, and didn't need to find it, because I'm not just going to read this unless I can go prove it myself.

01:58:57.000 But this is, and I've seen this before, now this is on page 285, discusses the approach, the family of conflict theorists.

01:59:08.000 Conflict theorists also view the family as an economic unit that contributes to social injustice.

01:59:15.000 The family is the basis for transferring power, property, and privilege from one generation to the next.

01:59:21.000 Conflict theorists argue that the family helps to maintain inequity.

01:59:28.000 So see, there, the family is bad.

01:59:30.000 This is over and over again.

01:59:31.000 Now, we haven't found the one textbook, because it's five, six years ago.

01:59:37.000 And maybe it was the same night I covered things with Bob.

01:59:40.000 A lot of these are already on the web.

01:59:41.000 Maybe you can find it, listeners.

01:59:42.000 It's the same night I covered it with Bob.

01:59:45.000 Might have been right around the same time.

01:59:47.000 And maybe that's why my memory says it was from Bob.

01:59:49.000 Because I got a textbook.

01:59:51.000 There were photocopies.

01:59:51.000 I had to give it back.

01:59:52.000 It was Calhoun Social Work Reader.

01:59:55.000 Something like that.

01:59:56.000 Find it!

01:59:58.000 Now, we can disprove that I don't talk about space aliens, as this guy says.

02:00:01.000 We can disprove that the government isn't at odds with the family.

02:00:03.000 That's well known they are.

02:00:05.000 But I want the exact quote he's saying doesn't exist.

02:00:08.000 I will find it.

02:00:10.000 Bob, in the few minutes we've got left, you want to read that specific Harvard psychologist statement again?

02:00:18.000 It came from, really, it's all, you know, if somebody wants to really know what the hell it's all about, it's UNESCO, and they had a 1947 book called Towards World Understanding.

02:00:28.000 You know, and in that book, on page 58, they say, quote, as we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism.

02:00:37.000 The school should therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitude.

02:00:42.000 That's all coming from, you know, UNESCO, UN stuff. 0.85

02:00:45.000 Now see how it says they're mentally ill, they're infected?

02:00:47.000 That's the same as saying disease, but I'm telling you there's one where they call the family.

02:00:52.000 In fact, read the whole quote from start to finish.

02:00:54.000 Okay, this is the quote from Chester M. Pierce, 1973.

02:00:58.000 A professor of education at Harvard in 1973 at a Denver education conference, quote, Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity.

02:01:21.000 It's up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the international child of the future. 0.99

02:01:30.000 End quote.

02:01:31.000 There you go.

02:01:33.000 By the way, I've now found the textbook.

02:01:35.000 It's been posted by one of the people in there.

02:01:40.000 Alex mentioned this, that the name was Calhoun.

02:01:43.000 On Amazon, I found this, Dictionary of Social Sciences, Craig Calhoun, editor.

02:01:48.000 Then it says, do any of these book titles look familiar?

02:01:53.000 Yes, they do.

02:01:54.000 Contemporary Sociology Theory, Classical Sociology Theory, Contemporary Sociology Theory, Blackwell Readers in Sociology, That all sounds familiar.

02:02:06.000 It goes on social theory and politics of identity, nationalism, concepts and social thought.

02:02:12.000 I think it's the one that's Blackwell readers.

02:02:15.000 I want to say it's a Calhoun reader.

02:02:17.000 Maybe like a condensed version, but it was a pretty good sized book.

02:02:20.000 Bob Dacey, thank you for the incredible job.

02:02:23.000 Anything else you want to add?

02:02:24.000 That's it, Alex.

02:02:25.000 Keep after him, my friend.

02:02:26.000 Tell folks when the local TV show's on.

02:02:28.000 It's on from 6 to 7 Monday nights on Channel 10.

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02:02:40.000 What a super guy.

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02:06:00.000 Alright, the last hour we gave footnoted quotes about how the family is a sickness, the children are mentally ill, they have a disease, basically. 0.88

02:06:09.000 I have now tracked down who this particular Calhoun sociologist was, talking about the family being a disease. 0.78

02:06:17.000 We're vetting all that out.

02:06:18.000 The mountains of quotes and evidence.

02:06:20.000 But I thought I would... This is what my classic detractors are like.

02:06:25.000 This is off YouTube.

02:06:26.000 This is the standard thing.

02:06:28.000 He implies, I'm not going to play the whole piece, he implies that he is going to school, he hasn't read any of the books when he's in school, so he's obviously taking that career path.

02:06:38.000 He says that I never footnote or never give where something comes from, I do over and over again.

02:06:43.000 Again, I'll say, four years ago MSNBC, Mexican Attorney General takes microchip, makes employees take it.

02:06:51.000 And then years later I'll say the Mexican Attorney General made his employees take it.

02:06:54.000 You can just say, oh that's a lie, he didn't give us a place to find it.

02:06:57.000 Use Google, man!

02:06:58.000 Go read it!

02:07:00.000 If I talk about civilian inmate labor camp programs and secret camp program from 86 to 96, which they declassified in 96.

02:07:06.000 It's in army.mil.

02:07:09.000 Just type civilian inmate labor camp program in.

02:07:11.000 Find out about how they secretly have federal and state prisoners on these.

02:07:14.000 I mean, I got Senate hearings talking about the secret camp program.

02:07:18.000 It's now mainstream news.

02:07:22.000 Decade after I talked about it.

02:07:24.000 Look, we don't make anything up.

02:07:27.000 But it's the classic attack saying we don't tell the truth or we're full of it.

02:07:32.000 So I thought I'd play a few minutes of this and then refute it with Charlotte Isnerby, head of policy, Department of Education under Ronald Reagan.

02:07:39.000 Herself, quite esteemed degrees and background in civil service internationally.

02:07:45.000 And then, of course, her father, Skull and Bones Bohemian Grove as well.

02:07:49.000 So, you know, pretty high-powered family.

02:07:52.000 From inside the intelligentsia, blowing the whistle from the inside out, we'll be talking to this dear, wonderful lady who wrote the bombshell definitive work, Deliberate Dumbing Down, in just one moment.

02:08:01.000 But first, here is the creature on YouTube, standard attack pattern, just putting out pure bull.

02:08:07.000 Hello there, YouTube.

02:08:08.000 This is Hisinus, and I'm doing a video response to the Alex Jones Family and Socialism thing. 0.86

02:08:16.000 First off, I want to say that Alex Jones is nuts. 0.94

02:08:20.000 This is the same guy who does Prison Planet, and we all know it for gems like Aliens are Invading, you know, Bush is an alien, just weird, off-the-wall crap like that. 0.98

02:08:34.000 This video is a perfect example of what this guy is all about.

02:08:38.000 Absolutely perfect, and I've spelled it out for you.

02:08:41.000 First of all, why are police and social workers in a children's classroom bad?

02:08:46.000 I don't think they mean, like, right in the classroom, but working with teachers, I don't know why that would be a bad thing.

02:08:54.000 I mean, you know, schools are in and of themselves Okay, hit pause.

02:09:01.000 So he impeaches me with saying I believe Bush is an alien and aliens are invading.

02:09:06.000 Never said it.

02:09:07.000 Anything close to it.

02:09:09.000 already designed to do that.

02:09:10.000 They're already designed to help with that.

02:09:12.000 Okay, hit pause.

02:09:14.000 So he impeaches me with saying, "I believe Bush is an alien and aliens are invading." Never said it.

02:09:19.000 Anything close to it.

02:09:20.000 UFOs are prosada non grata on this broadcast.

02:09:23.000 Okay?

02:09:24.000 Then he goes into, "Oh, guilty until proven innocent.

02:09:27.000 Yeah, we need these spies watching everybody." That's what he's saying.

02:09:30.000 But he just thinks it's normal because he's brought up in this system.

02:09:33.000 Let's go back to this little soft creature.

02:09:37.000 So, let's take me a little bit further.

02:09:40.000 And I don't know why he's saying social, you know, social work came from England.

02:09:45.000 Social work has kind of evolved over probably thousands of years, hundreds of thousands of years, from charity in ancient times.

02:09:54.000 You would have special groups of people who would give food to the poor.

02:09:57.000 It was a religious thing back then.

02:09:59.000 It's not so much a religious thing now.

02:10:00.000 But I think to the first institutionalization of that, technically, yes, it was in England.

02:10:06.000 It was in poor law.

02:10:07.000 But how he got from poor law to social work, I'm not quite sure.

02:10:14.000 And he's talking about, oh, no, it started in England.

02:10:19.000 And then with the very same group in Prussia, What?

02:10:24.000 It makes sense.

02:10:25.000 Let's stop right there.

02:10:28.000 Simultaneously, the eugenicists taking the theory of Darwinism to social Darwinism.

02:10:34.000 I'm not having a debate about Darwinism.

02:10:35.000 Then I get attacked for that.

02:10:37.000 I'm saying that the facts, what they said, okay, what sociology, all of this was born out of, eugenics was the key. 0.97

02:10:46.000 It went across the board in these sciences.

02:10:51.000 And, of course, the British royal family was German.

02:10:53.000 They then adopted the Prussian model.

02:10:55.000 The United States adopted it, and the colonial army as well, and they merged the two.

02:11:00.000 So, see, he's playing games with it there.

02:11:04.000 They developed these sciences in tandem and then integrated them as the sciences do, you know, across the Atlantic.

02:11:11.000 And then, of course, came into the United States.

02:11:13.000 And then he goes in to say, I never source anything, or I never give any proof of anything.

02:11:17.000 Let's go back to it in Charlotte, Iserby.

02:11:21.000 Stop him again.

02:11:26.000 I have to say something.

02:11:27.000 It's acknowledged that modern education, kindergarten, the structure of rote, the five to six class periods, the specialization, the regurgitation and repeating, that's the Prussian model.

02:11:38.000 The prison system is based predominantly on the Panopticon French model that rose in the last 250 years.

02:11:44.000 I mean, I actually read the textbooks on this.

02:11:47.000 You didn't, little boy, or you didn't remember it.

02:11:49.000 Back to it.

02:11:50.000 And that was Germany.

02:11:52.000 He's trying to link the idea of social work to Prussia, which he then makes to Germany.

02:12:00.000 Prussia is not Germany.

02:12:02.000 Prussia became Germany, but Prussia and Germany are not two All right, stop right there.

02:12:08.000 It's part of the whole Austrian-Hungarian Empire.

02:12:11.000 It's part of the same culture.

02:12:12.000 It was called Germania 2,000, you know, 60-something years ago by Julius Caesar.

02:12:17.000 I just can't go any further.

02:12:19.000 Charlotte, what do you think of that?

02:12:21.000 Well, I don't know.

02:12:22.000 That sort of comment, it's just so disjointed and off the wall.

02:12:27.000 I mean, the guy has got bits and pieces that he hooks together to try to make a point.

02:12:34.000 I wouldn't take it very seriously, Alex. 0.88

02:12:38.000 If that's all you ever have going up against you, that's sort of pathetic reasoning. 0.95

02:12:43.000 You know, you're lucky. 1.00

02:12:46.000 But that's the type of moron level that connects with some of the public. 0.99

02:12:52.000 Well, I wonder if it really does. 0.99

02:12:54.000 Let me point this out.

02:12:56.000 My book's been out for Since 1999, and I believe I've had, to be perfectly honest, two calls in when I've done interviews, and I've been doing them since then, radio.

02:13:09.000 Two calls where I was absolutely attacked, and it was by a couple of educators, you know, principals and superintendents.

02:13:19.000 Only two!

02:13:21.000 In what, eight years?

02:13:24.000 Everybody knows people have been dumbed down and this has been the process.

02:13:28.000 Yeah, but all the other calls, I want to make it very clear that you are correct on whatever you've been saying there.

02:13:35.000 I've had a lot of calls from educators, public school educators, superintendents, sometimes even commissioners of education, and they're all totally supportive.

02:13:47.000 Of getting the facts out.

02:13:48.000 Some of them didn't even know them themselves.

02:13:51.000 And there are these absolutely wild quotes.

02:13:55.000 I mean, I put together some for you today, but I guess you don't need them.

02:13:59.000 Oh yes, we need them.

02:14:02.000 We need them.

02:14:02.000 Go over them when you like.

02:14:04.000 You can just... I mean, I always think of it, if I only have, you know, one second or thirty seconds, the most important quote, because it comes from It's Benjamin Bloom, Professor Bloom's behavioral psychologist, who really is behind the whole dog training method that is necessary for workforce training.

02:14:24.000 He died a few years ago, but he admits it.

02:14:26.000 He says, the purpose of education in the schools is to change the thoughts, feelings, and actions of students.

02:14:34.000 Folks, from what?

02:14:35.000 From what the parent is trying to instill?

02:14:38.000 From what the church is trying to instill?

02:14:40.000 That's the definition right there, the purpose.

02:14:43.000 Then he goes on to say, a large part of what we call good teaching is the teacher's ability to attain effective objectives through, that means attitudes, values, and beliefs change, through challenging the student's fixed beliefs And getting them to discuss issues.

02:15:04.000 Now, there it is!

02:15:06.000 And then you have the 1945 Treaty, UNESCO.

02:15:11.000 Kindergarten or infant school can correct many of the errors of home training and prepare for membership in the world society.

02:15:19.000 It is in the family that children are infected with nationalism.

02:15:23.000 And you have Dr. Chester Pierce in the 70s, Harvard.

02:15:27.000 Every child in America who enters school at the age of five is mentally ill, because he comes to school with an allegiance toward our elected officials, toward our founding fathers, toward our institutions, toward the preservation of this form of government that we have.

02:15:42.000 Patriotism, nationalism and sovereignty, all that proves that children are sick, because a truly well individual is one who is rejected, All of those things and it's truly the international child of the future.

02:15:55.000 Then you have major change agent, I consider him number one in the world, John Goodlatte, schooling for a global age.

02:16:03.000 Parents and the general public must be reached also.

02:16:07.000 Otherwise children and youth enrolled in globally oriented programs may find themselves in conflict with values assumed in the home.

02:16:15.000 And then the education institution frequently, not often enough I might say, comes under scrutiny and must pull back.

02:16:24.000 And then he says, that was in 1981, actually I leaked that document that was in there.

02:16:29.000 That's why I got fired.

02:16:31.000 1968, he says, an article in Learning and Teaching in the NEA Journal, His top educator folks, behavioral psychologists, behaviorists, right?

02:16:40.000 He says, quote, the most controversial issues of the 21st century will pertain to the ends and means of modifying human behavior and who shall determine them.

02:16:51.000 The first educational question will not be what knowledge is of the most worth.

02:16:58.000 But what kind of human beings do we want to produce?

02:17:01.000 The possibilities virtually defy our imagination.

02:17:05.000 Then you have Ashley Montague, aging juvenile who regales teachers and other school people at conferences way back in the 70s.

02:17:13.000 Summed it up when he said, every child in America comes to school insane at the age of six because of the American family structure.

02:17:22.000 And then Dr. Reginald Lurie, President of the Joint Commission Comprehensive Child Development Act, 1971.

02:17:29.000 And after the break, I really would like to read what he said.

02:17:32.000 And let's double those footnotes for people out there.

02:17:35.000 They really want to research this.

02:17:36.000 They can get it for themselves.

02:17:37.000 Charlotte Isserby, Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. 1.00

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02:21:55.000 Charlotte Isabe is our guest.

02:21:57.000 Charlotte, out of the gates in a nutshell.

02:22:00.000 Tell folks just a little bit about yourself who don't know who you are, what you discovered inside this, and then just continue with the quotes by the heads of academia, the heads of the, quote, education science in the last hundred years for social workers and people being trained to be social workers who, you know, go up on YouTube and say, I'm making all this up.

02:22:21.000 Oh, no, you're not making it up at all.

02:22:23.000 I mean, I just wish that you were. 0.77

02:22:25.000 There's such an extensive paper trail, it's disgusting.

02:22:29.000 I mean, they seem to be pretty bright guys in some ways. 0.99

02:22:33.000 They're sick. 0.99

02:22:33.000 They're satanic, really. 0.99

02:22:34.000 They're evil people who would do this to our children.

02:22:37.000 But they have admitted, they truly have admitted what they're doing and so much of that is in my book and it's also, a great deal of it is on another website I have, too.

02:22:47.000 I'll give both websites.

02:22:50.000 DeliberateDumbingDown.com is the website for my book, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, the 700-pager.

02:22:57.000 The book is also It's a free download if you want, but buying it is easier for people to read it.

02:23:04.000 The website is delivereddumbingdown.com.

02:23:07.000 That is a chronological paper trail over the past 200 years of what they've done.

02:23:13.000 These are documents.

02:23:14.000 Now, the secondary website is marvelous.

02:23:17.000 It's called americandeception.com, and those are original primary research scanned in documents and books, very, very rare books and documents.

02:23:29.000 The most important item on that, if you call it an item, but it is the Reese Committee hearings.

02:23:37.000 Norman Dodd was the research director for those committee hearings in 1953 on the tax-exempt foundations.

02:23:46.000 And I bought Uh, the 3,000 pages of the hearings.

02:23:50.000 It was the only copy left in the country.

02:23:52.000 The foundations had bought up all the copies after the hearings were abruptly terminated for obvious reasons.

02:24:00.000 I'm sure your listeners understand why.

02:24:02.000 Because it's the history of the treason.

02:24:07.000 It was against America by the Tax Exempt Foundations. 0.71

02:24:10.000 Testimony, total proof.

02:24:12.000 So that website's great.

02:24:14.000 There are 90,000 pages of marvelous research there, education documents, everything.

02:24:19.000 But the major reason for that website was when I purchased the congressional, the testimony, during the Reese Cox Committee hearings of the investigation of the Tax Exempt Foundations.

02:24:35.000 That's at AmericanDeception.com.

02:24:38.000 A lot of that website is free, most of it.

02:24:42.000 Some of the new items are donor only.

02:24:45.000 But the Reese Committee hearings are free.

02:24:48.000 And if you had any idea what I paid for them, I'm sure you would go rushing in there to grab it immediately for fear something would happen with the Internet.

02:24:56.000 But they're extraordinary, extraordinary documents in that... at americandeception.com.

02:25:03.000 Now, going back, I'm going to, in brief, just tell you that when I got out of the Foreign Service in 1960... in 19...

02:25:11.000 When did I get out?

02:25:12.000 1963.

02:25:12.000 I got married.

02:25:13.000 I was in the Foreign Service and with the American Red Cross for over a period of 15 years or something.

02:25:19.000 And then I got married in Belgium, came back to the United States, became a school board member, went up against the change agents.

02:25:25.000 I love it the way everybody's using the word change agent now.

02:25:28.000 I might point out that I went through change agent training because a master teacher called me and she said, Charlotte, you're right on in your battle on the school board against your change agent superintendent, and I want you to go for training, and she paid for me to go, and it was at that training where I really got on my white horse, folks, and I've been on that white horse ever since, and I will never get off the horse as dirty as can be, but I will never get off because of what I was taught to do.

02:25:53.000 Now, listen.

02:25:56.000 I was taught, and we were all taught, And this was Ronald Havelock's Change Agents Guide.

02:26:03.000 How to bring about change in your community and schools.

02:26:07.000 And we were taught how to identify the resistors in our community.

02:26:12.000 And also how to identify the important groups in the community, like the Chamber of Commerce, the Rotary Club, the Garden Club, etc.

02:26:20.000 Nice people who really think they're doing such good work, and they've been taken by the change agents to get them on board to support sex ed, drug ed,

02:26:30.000 Critical Thinking Ed, Deaf Ed, whatever, all the things that have Ed hanging off the end of it, which are geared not towards helping your child be a good citizen with good morals and values and be an individual in this world, but are geared towards brainwashing them to be exactly the opposite, to be little, little, utter chaotic freaks.

02:26:51.000 And that is the goal of all this program.

02:26:54.000 So I was taught how to get those programs in.

02:26:58.000 And how do I identify the resistors?

02:27:00.000 Well, of course, I was a resistor.

02:27:01.000 That's quite funny.

02:27:02.000 I was taught how to identify myself.

02:27:05.000 But then I went on, again, and I moved on to the U.S.

02:27:08.000 Department of Ed.

02:27:10.000 Stay there! 0.92

02:27:11.000 Let's come back and encapsulate that, and then get into more quotes, what their plan is, how they've done everybody down, where they're going.

02:27:19.000 We're going to footnote again those quotes, we'll go through some more of them, for the individuals out there who just want to say that we're talking about space aliens.

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02:33:53.000 Charlotte, going back to you, I mean, I want to go over the key quotes, the key documents, and in a nutshell, when they took over education, how they converted it, how they federalized it, and then some solutions.

02:34:04.000 You've got the floor, but I want to hear more of those quotes.

02:34:07.000 Well, okay.

02:34:08.000 Alex, I also want to point out, you're correct.

02:34:12.000 I do have the book free on my website, and that's fine, but I've found that People, I thought when I did that, that I'd lose sales on the book, the real book, and in fact it increased sales, because people get tired of looking at the white screen, and so Alex, you shouldn't have any problem, you know, with the book.

02:34:32.000 Well, there's something tactile about it, and you know, my stuff hauls free as well, about being able to hold it, see it, share it, carry it with you, yes, yes.

02:34:41.000 So anyway, you know, we were talking about how The effort is not just to get the kids' minds, but it's the parents' as well.

02:34:49.000 This is an outcomes-based ed quote, because people might say, oh, she's talking about all those old quotes way back there, with U.N.

02:34:57.000 and Brock Chisholm talking about the, you know, the psychiatrist General Chisholm, good friend of Alger here, saying, we've got to get rid of the conscience.

02:35:05.000 We're going to retrain the teachers like little psychiatrists.

02:35:08.000 They can go into the classroom.

02:35:10.000 And people say, oh, I'm sick and tired of hearing all those 1945 quotes, right?

02:35:15.000 Well, they're important quotes, folks.

02:35:17.000 You see, the reason they shut up a bit lately is because they realized that we had their number.

02:35:24.000 We have all those old quotes.

02:35:25.000 But a recent quote is good, because this was in 1981, I believe.

02:35:29.000 It comes out of 1971.

02:35:34.000 No, 1981.

02:35:35.000 This is from one of the leaders in outcomes-based education, which we've been fighting across the country for ages, based on Skinner.

02:35:43.000 Absolutely Pavlov's slobbering dog stimulus response.

02:35:47.000 You know, I said Skinner, I could make a pigeon a high achiever.

02:35:50.000 By reinforcing our proper schedule, and that's what they have to have that in.

02:35:54.000 It's in now completely across the country because they need it for school to work.

02:35:58.000 But this is a quote from John Champlin, terribly high up with William Spady and the whole crowd, American Association of School Administrators.

02:36:07.000 This community, this is a program of theirs for outcomes-based education, direct instruction.

02:36:13.000 This community effort should be designed both to re-educate and to re-norm parents and the general public.

02:36:22.000 Think of re-norming the community the same way you conduct similar efforts in the school environment.

02:36:29.000 Don't challenge the community.

02:36:32.000 Co-op them.

02:36:33.000 Okay?

02:36:35.000 I love that.

02:36:36.000 That's a nice quote, because people get bored hearing the ones about the teachers.

02:36:40.000 And that's really a very good quote.

02:36:42.000 Now, I'm going to read another one, which actually is proof positive.

02:36:48.000 When you have people saying, oh, you're wrong, deaf ed, sex ed, critical thinking ed, you name it, whatever, those things, the education that has Has education hanging off the end of it?

02:37:00.000 Oh, they're for the good of the child, and the families should be really happy the schools are involved in that.

02:37:07.000 Well, I got ahold, this is in deliberate dumbing down of America, I happened to be lucky enough to get ahold of the journal called the School Counselor.

02:37:16.000 Special issue on death.

02:37:19.000 And it came that the American Personnel and Guidance Associates, you know those Nice guidance counselors that your children have access to.

02:37:19.000 May 1977.

02:37:29.000 Quote, listen to this, the last goal is to help students, this is on deaf education, is to help students clarify their values on social and ethical issues.

02:37:41.000 An underlying but seldom spoken assumption of much of the death education movement is that Americans handle death and dying poorly, and that we ought to be doing better at it.

02:37:53.000 Well, they're probably talking about the fact that we believe in God, right?

02:37:57.000 And that's where we deal with it very poorly.

02:38:00.000 As in the case of many other problems, many Americans believe that education can initiate change.

02:38:08.000 You're not kidding, can it?

02:38:10.000 Now, here we go.

02:38:11.000 This is a direct quote, and think in terms of what this says.

02:38:16.000 This actually says that they will be using death ed, the same way they use sex ed, to change our children's attitudes and values, so that children accept any sexual behavior, anything now.

02:38:28.000 You know that's true.

02:38:30.000 Now look, they said it.

02:38:31.000 Change is evidence.

02:38:33.000 Death education will play as important a part in changing attitudes towards death.

02:38:39.000 In other words, getting rid of religion. 0.97

02:38:41.000 Well, that's so they can, and they even say, euthanize people. 0.99

02:38:44.000 Get people ready that it's a beautiful thing to have the state kill you. 0.95

02:38:47.000 That's right.

02:38:48.000 And now, since they put this in, suicides exploded.

02:38:51.000 Now in town, seven people killing themselves.

02:38:53.000 Suicide cults on the web.

02:38:55.000 Well, the thing is, with death ed, they educate the children towards all the other religions. 0.98

02:39:00.000 Buddhism, Hinduism, Whatever, ism, everything except Christianity. 0.98

02:39:05.000 But anyway, it says, change is evident and death education will play as important a part in changing attitudes toward death as sex education played in changing attitudes toward sex information and wider acceptance of various sexual practices.

02:39:24.000 Now look, if that doesn't tell you that they have deliberately, that's why I love the word deliberate in the title of my book, They have deliberately gone after your children's morals and values and your family. 0.62

02:39:37.000 Now again, it's not just that they're perverts.

02:39:39.000 That's not the real reason.

02:39:40.000 If you actually read the eugenicists who started the social working in England, then in Germany, then in the U.S.

02:39:45.000 as it migrated, they say that by having people be promiscuous, lots of partners, getting people used to abortions and birth control, it's meant to reduce the size of the family, thus to also attack it and break it down, just like the Soviets did. 0.81

02:40:01.000 Well, that's right, and let me read this.

02:40:03.000 Remember, I think the break came when I was doing Dr. Reginald Lurie.

02:40:08.000 This goes back 1971.

02:40:09.000 President of the Joint Commission, the Comprehensive Child Development Act.

02:40:15.000 That passed by both Congress and the Senate in 71.

02:40:18.000 We have that.

02:40:19.000 That's why we have all these people coming into our homes, early age, taking kids away from us, etc.

02:40:25.000 Now, he said, quote, he's President of the Joint Commission.

02:40:30.000 There is serious thinking among some of the future-oriented child development research people that maybe we can't trust the family alone to prepare young children for this new kind of world which is emerging.

02:40:42.000 The Soviets have long recognized the shortcomings of the family.

02:40:46.000 That is one of the reasons they felt they needed to have access to the babies.

02:40:50.000 During the first 18 months of life, the brain is growing faster than it ever will again.

02:40:54.000 It is then also more plastic and most available for appropriate experience and corrective.

02:41:02.000 And that's why they openly say in Europe and here that they want to get people on welfare so they get the children and now they're offering even middle-class people, oh let us take care of your baby, let us pay the kids to stay late till eight o'clock at night.

02:41:02.000 Intervention.

02:41:16.000 I mean this is the total takeover.

02:41:17.000 Well absolutely and it is.

02:41:19.000 I'd like to point out that in the U.S.

02:41:22.000 Department of Education, I was there for not terribly long, two years, not quite And that Department of Education is a Marxist factory. 0.74

02:41:32.000 And thank God for Ron Paul.

02:41:35.000 He's the only one that constantly is talking about bringing it down.

02:41:40.000 If that was all he recommended, folks, he should be president for that!

02:41:45.000 Because the future of our country depends on how our children have been educated as little individuals for upward mobility, having an understanding of the world, not trained like rats!

02:41:57.000 to go along with the New World Order. 0.76

02:41:59.000 Now, Charlotte, I like to go back to the start because I've read all these quotes and you're the grand expert on this.

02:42:05.000 But I remember reading the National Association of Banks in right around 1900.

02:42:12.000 I'm going from memory.

02:42:12.000 I remember reading the National Association of Psychologists, Psychiatrists in the 40s, where they said Americans are the smartest, they read the best, all the inventions are from here.

02:42:21.000 We've got to, they've used words like dumb them down, lower their horizons, constrict them, teach them to be cogs in the planned society.

02:42:29.000 The middle class is going to compete with the social planners.

02:42:32.000 They're upstarts.

02:42:33.000 We've got to dumb them down, use chemicals, whatever we have to. 0.97

02:42:36.000 Uh, to control them.

02:42:38.000 They openly said they were going to do this, just by making education boring and not making sense they do it.

02:42:44.000 And they took us from the highest test scores way down.

02:42:46.000 Uh, and I'm going from memory, but on that National Banking Association document about how we gotta take over education and stop them from reading.

02:42:53.000 I mean, you know, now they can claim it's for all these reasons, and you're four or five generations into cult-like teachers and social workers.

02:42:59.000 A lot of them are good.

02:43:00.000 A lot of them don't see the big picture.

02:43:01.000 Even if they are good, they can't fight back much.

02:43:04.000 In the system, but we have their own words where they admit this was about taking control of society and dumbing down.

02:43:09.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:43:11.000 And you know, for those who really want a good document to show to people who say, oh, well, you know, things aren't so bad, the education schools aren't so bad, at American Deception, there's an entry, and it doesn't take much, it's about eight pages, and go in there, folks, and just type into the search engine up there, H-I-G-N-I-T-E.

02:43:38.000 And you are going to see there a test on the Constitution that is about 12 pages long.

02:43:46.000 This Kenny Hignite, someone at a conference in California gave this to me, gave me the actual test with Kenny Hignite's handwriting on it.

02:43:54.000 He got 99 on it.

02:43:55.000 This was in 1953 in Central California Public School.

02:44:01.000 Go there, read it.

02:44:02.000 It is the most difficult test.

02:44:04.000 He had to name all the cabinet officials.

02:44:06.000 He had to know all the Bill of Rights.

02:44:07.000 He had to understand the Constitution, the three branches of government.

02:44:11.000 He had to know, unbelievable, the protections, everything, and he got 99.

02:44:17.000 Go there and look at it, and you know what you can do with that?

02:44:22.000 You can cut and paste, and you can send that to anybody you want on a computer and prove to them This was America's public school system as late as 1953.

02:44:33.000 So it was a deliberate, you know, from 1945 on, he just escaped it, 1945 on, that was the UN, going to the UN, UNESCO, get rid of academics, you know, Brock Chisholm, the teacher becomes the psychiatrist, then we have the agreements with the Soviet Union, Reagan signed, merging the two systems, all of that came after 1945.

02:44:57.000 But this was 1953 before Hignite had been hit, when there were still very good teachers around.

02:45:04.000 There still are some who try to do this.

02:45:06.000 But look at that, because it shows how very deliberate this whole agenda has been to dumb down your children, to strip them of their values, to make them into the little new Soviet man. 0.91

02:45:21.000 Because everything in education has been Sovietized by now.

02:45:26.000 Exactly.

02:45:27.000 It goes right along with William Foster's book.

02:45:30.000 He was chairman of the Communist Party USA in the 30s.

02:45:34.000 Buried in the Kremlin, and he said, called for a U.S.

02:45:38.000 Department of Ed., called for getting rid of religion, called for putting in the scientific Pavlovian method, called for all of these things that are being taught in the schools now.

02:45:48.000 And it's been done.

02:45:49.000 It's a done deal.

02:45:51.000 So, all of those, you're wonderful listeners out there who are homeschooling, Or who are in private schools that don't accept a penny of any form of tax money, federal, state, or local.

02:46:04.000 Those are the people whose children are going to save this country.

02:46:08.000 And the public schools, I'm sorry to say it, because I'm a great supporter, always have been, of public education, because it was the best system in the world.

02:46:18.000 But all the money that's gone in, the multi-billions of dollars, trillions of dollars, from 1981 when I was there, the Department of Ed was $12 billion.

02:46:27.000 Now it's $67 billion.

02:46:29.000 And that's the centerpiece, the headquarters for distributing all the destructive, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-common sense programs for retraining teachers, Deliberately ruining your children, making them into robots.

02:46:44.000 I want to throw a program note in here.

02:46:46.000 I was on the message board and professors and all these other people were finding all these other horrible quotes saying the family's bad, the family has to be gotten rid of, the family is a sickness, a disease.

02:46:56.000 And then now it moved off of the PrisonPlanet.com forum.

02:47:00.000 I can't find it in the sub pages and I can't find it in recent posts.

02:47:04.000 Can somebody, I know it grew full of quotes and I want to go back and vet those and follow those back for an article we're doing.

02:47:11.000 Can whoever has that page repost it in a recent post or post it at the top or something.

02:47:19.000 Charlotte, I know you had other quotes you wanted to read before we hit that break 30 minutes ago.

02:47:22.000 Do you want to read any more quotes you didn't have time to get to about the family being bad?

02:47:26.000 Well, yeah, I can read this.

02:47:28.000 I think I didn't.

02:47:29.000 This one is good.

02:47:30.000 This is from Arthur.

02:47:31.000 This may hook into what you were talking about.

02:47:33.000 Arthur Calhoun's A Social History of the American Family in 1919.

02:47:38.000 There are three volumes, I believe, and in the third volume he says, quote, the new view is that the higher and more obligatory relation is to society rather than to the family.

02:47:52.000 The family goes back to the age of savagery.

02:47:56.000 Well, the state belongs to the age of civilization.

02:48:00.000 The modern individual is a world citizen, served by the world, and home interest can no longer be supreme.

02:48:07.000 As soon as the new family, consisting of only the parents and the children, stood forth, society saw how many were unfit for parenthood, and began to realize the need of community care.

02:48:21.000 And he goes on there, if you want the rest of the quote.

02:48:23.000 No, no, that's it.

02:48:24.000 What they did is, it wasn't a 1919 book.

02:48:26.000 They took that quote, and then in the UT textbook I was looking at, when they were using there, University of Texas at Austin, it then went on to say, it's, the family's a disease.

02:48:36.000 But you just found it, Charlotte.

02:48:38.000 That's it.

02:48:38.000 Erin, she found it.

02:48:40.000 She found it.

02:48:40.000 Stand by.

02:48:41.000 All right.

02:48:42.000 Stay there, Charlotte. 0.96

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02:52:12.000 Every educator, every person that has children in a government education camp, indoctrination center, Now again, we're four or five generations into this.

02:52:20.000 The average social worker, the average teacher doesn't even see what's happening around them.

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02:52:29.000 In higher level documents for master educators, special schools they're sent to, even above the masters and PhD level.

02:52:38.000 And correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, Charlotte.

02:52:40.000 So, some social worker listening may not even know this, but it's the attitude, it's the idea, it's the guilty until proven innocent.

02:52:47.000 It's the whole system of destroying families and making us all cogs in this larger system.

02:52:53.000 The sodium fluoride in the water to dumb us down, now public.

02:52:56.000 That's not even Scientific American admits that.

02:52:59.000 As you said, the people now know this is going on.

02:53:01.000 They don't know the full horror or the full details.

02:53:04.000 But even George Carlin gets up and says the corporations, you know, run the system to dumb everybody down, you know, when he talks about education.

02:53:11.000 They test to see how much they've dumbed you down, then they lower the test bar.

02:53:16.000 Charlotte, re-intro what year he wrote that, 1919, the name, because Aaron missed that.

02:53:21.000 You mean Calhoun?

02:53:24.000 Wait a minute, I've got it here.

02:53:26.000 I think.

02:53:27.000 Let's see.

02:53:28.000 I hope.

02:53:30.000 I'll have to look for it and give it to you when I find it, because I threw it away when you said that you... that I found it.

02:53:38.000 So I lost it, but I will give it to you.

02:53:41.000 It's okay.

02:53:41.000 It's Calhoun 1919.

02:53:43.000 We got a bunch of books you wrote.

02:53:44.000 We can find and go back and listen to today.

02:53:45.000 Yeah, I can.

02:53:45.000 I'll get it for you before this is over with.

02:53:48.000 But I do... there's something very important in regard to The mental health testing and all of the... I found that for you.

02:53:58.000 Here it is.

02:53:59.000 Third volume, Arthur Calhoun's The Social History of the American Family, 1919.

02:54:02.000 And I want to give Dennis Cuddy...

02:54:07.000 You know, credit for this.

02:54:09.000 Dennis has this in his marvelous chronology of education, which I stole from him and put on americandeception.com.

02:54:16.000 I just got sort of his permission now.

02:54:18.000 We're good friends.

02:54:19.000 But that is Dennis' wonderful chronology of education.

02:54:22.000 It can be purchased from Dennis, but it also is at americandeception.com.

02:54:28.000 And this is on page 14 of Dennis's chronology.

02:54:33.000 1919, about Arthur Calhoun, a social history of the American family, okay?

02:54:39.000 So anyway, let's give credit to Dennis.

02:54:42.000 And also, I want another thing, before I forget, we're talking about the justice system in this country.

02:54:48.000 We've only got a minute left, Charlotte.

02:54:50.000 Wrap it up.

02:54:51.000 Alright, Hawaii Master Plan.

02:54:54.000 That's page 85 in my book and it calls for, it says right here, 1971, it says, recent discoveries from the field of biochemistry suggest that all these drugs will improve learning such as persistence, the application of biochemical research findings, will be a source of controversy when children become the object of such experimentation.

02:55:17.000 Schools will be conceivably swept in a whole new area of collaboration and research with biochemists and psychologists to improve learning.

02:55:24.000 This was planned.

02:55:26.000 The Hawaii Master Plan, a lot of it is in my book, Delivered Dumbing Down.

02:55:29.000 And that's the new Freedom Initiative.

02:55:33.000 Yes.

02:55:34.000 It is.

02:55:37.000 And any child that believes in God or doesn't like world government, when he's screened, he'll be flagged. 0.98

02:55:44.000 He's sick.

02:55:46.000 And again, it's because you can have no God but them. 0.92

02:55:49.000 That's why they attack it.

02:55:50.000 It's not because they're these enlightened atheists.

02:55:53.000 Charlotte Isserby, deliberatedumbingdown.com.

02:55:56.000 We will talk to you in the very near future.

02:55:58.000 I want to have you back up in the next few weeks.

02:56:00.000 We're doing a lot on education.

02:56:02.000 God bless you for all your great work.

02:56:03.000 Thank you so much, Alex, and best to everybody.

02:56:07.000 What a great lady. 1.00

02:56:07.000 We'll be back tonight, live on the network, 9 to midnight. 1.00

02:56:10.000 Central retransmitted out on the network, live, 9 to midnight.

02:56:13.000 Not live.

02:56:14.000 And you can hear the streams going out right now.

02:56:16.000 In one minute, we're going to come back, and you can hear the first and second hour, if you missed it, with key economic analysis, go to InfoWars.com.

02:56:22.000 Right now, God bless you all.

02:56:26.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - January 24, 2008

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