Alex Jones Show - 20080328_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:02.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:00:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

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00:00:15.000 Could there have been more than one shooter involved in the 1968 assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy?

00:00:41.000 RFK was shot in Los Angeles shortly after claiming victory in California's Democratic primary.

00:00:47.000 The shooter, Sirhan Sirhan, is serving a life sentence for the assassination, but at a forensics conference this weekend in Connecticut, new theories he might not have fired the fatal shots.

00:00:58.000 Is that possible?

00:00:59.000 Amy Parmenter from NBC station WVIT in Hartford was there.

00:01:03.000 Amy, what led experts to this theory?

00:01:06.000 Well, actually it was a very interesting theory that was presented yesterday at this symposium, presented by a couple of scientists.

00:01:13.000 So, of course, it was rather complicated and detailed.

00:01:15.000 I'm going to try to simplify it for you a little bit.

00:01:18.000 The scientists, two independent researchers, Dr. Robert Jolling and Philipp von Praag, forensic evidence experts, actually have been studying the Kennedy assassination separately.

00:01:30.000 They never even met until last year when they met at a seminar and realized that their independent conclusions were almost perfectly matched.

00:01:38.000 Now, Joling, what he was able to come up with by studying the forensics evidence was that Sirhan Sirhan could not have fired the fatal shot.

00:01:46.000 And that's because, according to his findings, that fatal shot came from behind Senator Kennedy.

00:01:52.000 And of course, witnesses all put Sirhan Sirhan face to face with Kennedy, about four to six feet away, so he would not have had the opportunity to shoot from behind.

00:02:02.000 Now, Von Praag, what he studied was a little more complicated.

00:02:06.000 He actually looked at the audio recording known as the Pruszynski recording, which was made by a Canadian journalist, actually inadvertently, who had left his tape recording on after recording Kennedy's victory speech, and then as he kind of followed the Kennedy entourage into the kitchen pantry there at the Ambassador Hotel, the tape was still rolling, rather.

00:02:27.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:02:29.000 It is already Friday, the 28th day of March 2008.

00:02:34.000 And we're going to be live here for the next three hours, and we have a jam-packed broadcast with three different big guests for you today.

00:02:44.000 One of them is a surprise guest in the last 30 minutes of the show.

00:02:51.000 We will obviously be talking more about RFK and how he was killed by the CIA today.

00:02:59.000 Separately, NBC News, ABC News, and BBC ...have come out with separate evidence showing and proving the government killed RFK.

00:03:12.000 And incidentally, on Sunday, on the Sunday edition show coming up in two days, 4 to 6 p.m.

00:03:17.000 Central, I've got one of the highest level members of the Japanese Parliament, the Diet.

00:03:25.000 He's the head of the second largest party in Japan.

00:03:29.000 He's going to be joining us from Japan.

00:03:31.000 I'll give you a heads up on that on the radio show Sunday.

00:03:35.000 And so will Jim Mars.

00:03:37.000 Jim is going to be joining us Sunday to talk about not just the murders of JFK, which has now been, for all intents and purposes, admitted.

00:03:50.000 The guy running the operation, Deathbed Confession, the evidence just piles to the sun.

00:03:56.000 But now the murder of RFK.

00:03:58.000 Now, the official Los Angeles County coroner Said he'd been shot multiple times in the back, and that he'd been shot at close range, and there were even powder burns on his jacket.

00:04:10.000 Sirhan Sirhan, with a different caliber, shot into the ceiling.

00:04:16.000 As he was programmed to do.

00:04:18.000 With a completely different caliber.

00:04:20.000 I mean, it was a no-brainer.

00:04:21.000 One caliber was shot into RFK's back at point-blank range.

00:04:26.000 The other was a handgun shot into the ceiling.

00:04:31.000 And that's always been the fact, and we always knew that, so now, BBC and NBC and, oh, they're breaking the major news.

00:04:41.000 He got that nomination and they killed him.

00:04:46.000 That's how they roll.

00:04:47.000 And then they told the cattle that they didn't.

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00:08:27.000 It is Friday, my friends. .

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00:08:46.000 We'll be joining us for 30 minutes at the bottom of the next hour.

00:08:51.000 We have a surprise guest joining us the last 30 minutes of the show.

00:08:56.000 And in the first 30 minutes of the third hour, we have some expert guests joining us to go over the illegal government DNA database.

00:09:06.000 Every child born in this country is put in an illegal federal database and now that information is digitized and put into the Department of Homeland Security criminal database.

00:09:17.000 Newborn babies are criminals. 0.94

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00:09:24.000 Only the almighty state owned by the private bankers.

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00:09:31.000 All right.

00:09:33.000 Let me go over some of the news we'll be covering in the meantime.

00:09:37.000 CIA claim.

00:09:42.000 CIA role claim in Kennedy killing.

00:09:45.000 New video and photographic evidence that puts three senior CIA operatives at the scene of Robert Kennedy's assassination has been brought to light.

00:09:53.000 So, this came out three or four days ago In the BBC and then a few days later in the US, they decide to focus on a scientific symposium where they have top forensic experts going over the fact that he was clearly shot in the back.

00:10:20.000 But the evidence of top CIA officials being at the event, which we've always known, that's the bigger evidence.

00:10:32.000 And then you have the forensics, the LA coroner, on record said he was shot in the back by a different caliber than what Sirhan Sirhan was shooting from the front.

00:10:44.000 RFK, Robert Kennedy, was not shot in the front.

00:10:56.000 He was shot in the back.

00:11:00.000 And We Are Change questioned his son just a few weeks ago about E. Howard Hunt, the admitted Watergate chief, the admitted CIA section chief, the admitted individual that had overthrown scores of nations, on his deathbed said that he ran the operation to kill JFK.

00:11:28.000 And in that same Rolling Stones article, he talked about how he wished and couldn't wait till Bobby was killed and then was real happy when he was killed.

00:11:38.000 And what'd he say?

00:11:39.000 He just, oh, that's a, you know, I don't want to talk about that.

00:11:42.000 I don't want to, you know, I don't want to, I don't really care to hear from what E. Howard Hunt has to say.

00:11:52.000 Completely gelded.

00:11:55.000 Completely castrated, mumbling about how we need global taxes to save us from global warming. 0.98

00:12:00.000 Just effeminate. 0.98

00:12:02.000 It's not even right to call those type of men effeminate.

00:12:05.000 They are... Because women are tough. 1.00

00:12:10.000 Women are, in many cases, more outspoken than men.

00:12:12.000 So it's wrong to call them effeminate.

00:12:14.000 But they don't show male characteristics.

00:12:16.000 So I guess... I mean, you kill my daddy, I'm gonna be talking about it. 0.98

00:12:27.000 But I guess from the time he was a little boy, they said, you keep your mouth shut, they'll come get you. 0.60

00:12:31.000 And I bet he cried in bed and was scared of shadows outside his window.

00:12:38.000 And so he'll... And we've got letters from JFK's secretary talking about how she knows they killed him, the whole family knows it.

00:12:49.000 They just keep their mouths shut.

00:12:54.000 Now the word is that JFK Jr.

00:12:59.000 was preparing, in fact he done even some exposés in his own magazine, was preparing to really go public and also run against Hillary.

00:13:06.000 So they clearly whacked him, the evidence of that is manifest.

00:13:10.000 He should have spoken out earlier!

00:13:13.000 Less time jogging, less time acting cool, less time socializing, more time speaking out.

00:13:19.000 You be alive, my friend.

00:13:22.000 I'm not bashing you, I'm just Trying to encourage others, before they do sleep with the fishes, to speak out.

00:13:31.000 That's what keeps you safe.

00:13:33.000 Just like they say in JFK to Jim Garrison.

00:13:36.000 By the way, that's based on true conversations he had.

00:13:40.000 According to the screenwriter, Jim Mars and others that I've talked to, C.I.A.

00:13:51.000 role claim in Kennedy killing.

00:13:53.000 New video and photographic evidence that puts three senior C.I.A.

00:13:56.000 operatives at the scene of Robert Kennedy's assassination has been brought to light.

00:14:00.000 The evidence was shown in a report by Shane O'Sullivan broadcast on BBC Newsnight.

00:14:05.000 It reveals that the operatives and four unidentified associates were at the Ambassador Hotel Los Angeles in the moments before and after the shooting on June 5th, 1968.

00:14:16.000 had no domestic Justification, and some of the officers were based in Southeast Asia at the time with no reason to be in Los Angeles.

00:14:16.000 The C.I.A.

00:14:29.000 Decoy.

00:14:31.000 Kennedy had just won the California Democratic primary on anti-war ticket and was set to challenge Nixon for the White House when he was shot in a kitchen pantry.

00:14:41.000 A 24-year-old Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan was arrested as the lone assassin and notebooks at his house seemed to incriminate him.

00:14:52.000 And then, of course, he was a mental patient who'd been under CIA doctor's care at facilities.

00:14:59.000 And then everyone witnessed this gorgeous woman in the polka-dotted dress giving him the special coffee, clearly his handler.

00:15:06.000 He goes into the amnesic, probably liquid, Halcyon-type drug.

00:15:11.000 Total amnesic, they give it to you when they pull your wisdom teeth.

00:15:15.000 You can tell someone as they're coming out of it what has happened to them, and they'll repeat it back to you.

00:15:21.000 It's what you mainly are given in sedation dentistry.

00:15:24.000 I mean, these are just simple drugs that have been around for 50 years that do this.

00:15:28.000 They put it in his drink.

00:15:29.000 He went and just saw her putting something in his drink. 0.90

00:15:32.000 And then he walks in and starts shooting at the ceiling as he was programmed to do.

00:15:37.000 Shooting, no, because it would have been a problem and more of an investigation if he'd have shot others missing.

00:15:41.000 So he shoots up as he's ordered to, as he'd been carefully programmed to, and then Happily just goes with them and admits he did it all, and it's all incriminated, just like the hijackers' bags on repeated flights were the only bags that got stuck in the luggage machines.

00:15:58.000 They got stuck.

00:15:59.000 They fell off the rack.

00:16:01.000 They didn't make it to the planes.

00:16:03.000 And their cars, and with their confessions, and their two passports fell out of the fireballs at the North and South Tower and fell to the ground and were found.

00:16:12.000 Not one, two!

00:16:16.000 It's of course it's all an accident, but now it's admitted CIA high-level black op commanders involved in Southeast Asian narcotics trafficking fly in and they're there.

00:16:29.000 Of course witnesses said they saw one of these guys behind him pull a gun out and shoot him in the back, but it doesn't matter if you have witnesses that saw them shoot him in the back.

00:16:38.000 It doesn't matter if you have the LA coroner saying he was shot in the back by different caliber.

00:16:46.000 None of that matters.

00:16:49.000 In front of everyone, McVeigh is driving erratically.

00:16:54.000 The state police pull him over.

00:16:55.000 No license plates on either end of the bizarre, you know, super old bomber-type vehicle.

00:17:06.000 Kind of an off-eggshell yellow color.

00:17:09.000 With Bondo all over it.

00:17:10.000 The most obvious car you can pick.

00:17:12.000 He's drooling.

00:17:13.000 This was in the Daily Upload.

00:17:15.000 He stumbles out and begins drooling, saying, it hurts, it hurts.

00:17:19.000 Tell him, take the chip out.

00:17:22.000 And see, those are key words in mind control.

00:17:23.000 And he also, of course, had a cell phone with him.

00:17:26.000 They just call up and say, it's just like the Bourne ultimatum.

00:17:33.000 You watch that movie?

00:17:34.000 They call in the army captain, they say, are you committed to this program?

00:17:38.000 You've already signed the papers, you're sure you're committed?

00:17:40.000 He says, yes sir.

00:17:41.000 Black bag over the head.

00:17:41.000 Whom?

00:17:43.000 Whom?

00:17:43.000 Hardcore waterboarding, torture, LSD, PCP, constant torture, six months, a year, reprogramming, training, keywords, different compartmentalized personalities.

00:17:54.000 That was all declassified in the 70s, they had that.

00:17:58.000 In Korea, they were breaking our troops, turning them into absolute zombies. 0.91

00:18:02.000 But as if that isn't enough, that he's stumbling around saying, and it isn't like he didn't really have a chip probably.

00:18:14.000 That's a key.

00:18:15.000 They want to give you something psychological to associate it with.

00:18:19.000 It's like they create a schizophrenia that they can turn on, you understand?

00:18:23.000 And then, your mind psychosomatically creates the nausea, the hysteria, the flashbacks, the deep pre-programmed areas in your mind from just super intense torture.

00:18:41.000 In an hallucinogenic state.

00:18:43.000 They also give you drugs to make you nauseous while it's happening.

00:18:46.000 Amphetamine injections to heighten the awareness.

00:18:50.000 So that you have hyper awareness of pain.

00:18:53.000 Taking you to levels unknown to the average person.

00:18:56.000 Unnatural.

00:18:59.000 But as if that wasn't obvious enough.

00:19:03.000 From the time he's arrested, Jolly and West, in the 1977 MKUltra hearings, running the program with Dr. Ewing Cameron, kidnapping more than 10,000 women and children in the U.S.

00:19:14.000 and Canada for CIA mind-control programs.

00:19:16.000 You know that's declassified?

00:19:18.000 20-plus year program.

00:19:18.000 More than 10,000.

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00:19:31.000 The greatest living legend of mind control is McVeigh's doctor.

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00:23:52.000 The government tried to have mind control programs to create supermen, super soldiers.

00:24:11.000 the They proved under drugs and hypnosis, they could take somebody who could bench press 400 pounds, they could bench press 1000 pounds.

00:24:19.000 You know, somebody that could squat 500 pounds could squat 2000 pounds.

00:24:28.000 Because the brain has an automatic switch in it, a governor.

00:24:32.000 But stuff like born identity, born supremacy, born ultimatum, It doesn't create those type of super soldiers from the info that's leaked out and we've gotten.

00:24:42.000 What it does create is screwed up, messed up people who will drive a truck in with a bomb in it and then come out and drool, or go into a school and shoot a bunch of people and then blow their own head off, or who will just sit... I mean, you would watch McVane in those interviews.

00:25:01.000 He was completely drugged out, completely out of his gourd, with his mind control doctor sitting right beside him.

00:25:06.000 I mean, they've got to stay on him.

00:25:08.000 Just like when our troops would get up and they would believe it in Vietnam and when North Korea would capture them, they would get up and believe and say America was evil and of course at the time it wasn't as evil as it is now and in a way it was but they in truth thought it was good before but now really believed it was bad and a few of them were hard to break and the famous cases of blinking with Morse code, torture, torture, torture.

00:25:34.000 But what is mind control?

00:25:40.000 Well, mind control's real simple.

00:25:44.000 You see this with women who've been beaten a lot by their husband.

00:25:47.000 And the guy goes to comb his hair and raises his hand to comb his hair and the woman flinches. 1.00

00:25:51.000 You'll see that in restaurants.

00:25:53.000 You'll see that on the street.

00:25:56.000 Or parents that beat their kids a lot.

00:25:58.000 You'll see little kids that... You've been around people where they'll move to comb their hair or move to put their glasses on and the kid flinches?

00:26:06.000 Or if a dog's been beaten a lot.

00:26:09.000 And you move your hand, it'll run.

00:26:10.000 If you're a puppy training a dog, and you've just got the newspaper, and you're barely even whacking them with it, but you know, it's just to train them, they see a magazine, they get upset.

00:26:20.000 That's mind control.

00:26:21.000 And they make it real fancy, and oh, it's scientific, and there's wires in your brain, and the rest of it.

00:26:29.000 And they have moved on to that.

00:26:32.000 They've moved on where they can have a rat, a cockroach, a human, with electrodes, uh, not talk, according to the stuff that's declassified, I'm sure they can now, but what we know, 20 years ago, because they declassified every few decades, is they can hook wires into your head with remote control and have you walk around, shoot guns, drive cars, they can hit a button, make you urinate, make you fall asleep, make you vomit, make you feel euphoric.

00:26:57.000 Now that's electronic.

00:26:59.000 And so, that's cybernetic a little different.

00:27:02.000 Most of the mind control has just been in basic Pavlovian torture.

00:27:08.000 And let me tell you, they torture you for six months and then say a key word when the torture begins, you'll become upset.

00:27:14.000 You'll start stumbling around.

00:27:15.000 You'll start throwing up.

00:27:16.000 You'll fall to your knees.

00:27:17.000 Or when they say the happy word, when the drugs are taken off and the opiates are given to you and you feel okay, when they say that key word, you're going to feel great.

00:27:28.000 And so here I am, spent 20 minutes on this, but it's an important subject, and now I've digressed and I've got so many guests coming up, I don't know how I'm going to get to all of this now.

00:27:44.000 But you can go to PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com, and read, CIA Role Claiming Kennedy Killing, and then just come out and admit, page after page, that the government basically killed him.

00:27:53.000 And there's a whole other NBC report from the forensics admitting the government killed him, but... Here's the other type of news we have.

00:28:03.000 Defense Secretary Gates orders inventory of U.S.

00:28:05.000 nukes because they're getting flown here, they're getting flown here, they're lost there.

00:28:10.000 They're putting all this out now for a reason.

00:28:13.000 This is very, this is a big concern.

00:28:16.000 They wouldn't be letting these stories out of fuses going to the wrong place and nukes going to the wrong place.

00:28:21.000 There wasn't a reason and something stinks.

00:28:24.000 And all I can say is heaven help us because these people don't just cold-bloodedly kill, they like to kill.

00:28:29.000 So Defense Secretary Robert Gates has ordered a full inventory of nuclear weapons and related materials after a mistaken delivery of ballistic missile fuses to Taiwan, the Pentagon said Thursday.

00:28:40.000 I love how they call them fuses.

00:28:45.000 It's not what they are.

00:28:46.000 Iraq puts Baghdad under weekend curfew, all part of the freedom. 0.94

00:28:51.000 Airport security forces woman to remove nipple ring with pliers, but she had a belly button ring they left alone. 1.00

00:28:58.000 And it's reported that they were laughing at her.

00:29:01.000 And of course the skin grew over it so she had to rip it out. 0.97

00:29:06.000 I experienced this at LAX.

00:29:08.000 I'm politely... It was like a year ago.

00:29:13.000 A year and a half ago.

00:29:15.000 It dropped out of the airport.

00:29:18.000 And I...

00:29:23.000 By the way, I just bought new shoes for you guys before.

00:29:25.000 My feet don't stink.

00:29:26.000 Because I changed socks twice today.

00:29:28.000 But the point is, my feet don't smell.

00:29:30.000 And I took my shoes off, put them in the scanner to be humiliated, to be habitualized, to be trained, to be a slave.

00:29:35.000 And the guys just said, oh, look at Mr. Stinky Feet. 0.93

00:29:37.000 Sit over here, Stinky Feet. 0.78

00:29:38.000 We're gonna scan you. 0.80

00:29:40.000 By the way, no metal bleep.

00:29:41.000 It's all part of humiliation.

00:29:42.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:24.000 my friends, the front line of the InfoWars.

00:33:26.000 Awesome.

00:33:28.000 All of us are brothers and sisters together.

00:33:30.000 No matter where you live across the planet, we love liberty, we hate tyranny, we love decency and honor and the average person being able to live their life without some parasite feeding on you.

00:33:47.000 And we are everywhere.

00:33:48.000 We're in every business, every law enforcement agency, every government operation, every university.

00:33:55.000 Our people are legion, and they are growing every single day.

00:33:59.000 And so remember that.

00:34:01.000 The enemy is scared to death.

00:34:03.000 I've done my own analysis for many different gauges that we have.

00:34:09.000 To know how big our movement is, and it's almost unmeasurable it's so large and growing so fast.

00:34:15.000 But there are billions of people that now know about the New World Order.

00:34:18.000 There are billions of people.

00:34:21.000 I would have to say about 35-40% of the world's population has a good idea now, exactly what we're facing.

00:34:28.000 But we still feel like we're alone.

00:34:30.000 We still feel like other people aren't aware of it.

00:34:33.000 That final illusion is starting to collapse, though, and as it collapses, it will fall that much faster.

00:34:39.000 I'm going to talk more about that in a moment.

00:34:43.000 But now, getting back to airport security, they hire these poor folks for eight, ten bucks an hour, and you go to some airports, and they're nice, they're friendly, they're professional, But you go to others and it is just a culture of abuse.

00:35:07.000 I have witnessed with my own eyeballs at the San Francisco airport some group called Wolverine Security.

00:35:21.000 They were wearing kind of bright blue Cobra Commander type battle dress fatigues.

00:35:30.000 With yellow highlights.

00:35:35.000 They were all foreigners. 1.00

00:35:39.000 It looked like it was predominantly Vietnamese.

00:35:42.000 And they were, with abandon, jabbing, pushing, interrogating, gibbering.

00:35:47.000 I say gibbering because it wasn't even good English.

00:35:52.000 At old people, women, a World War II vet. 0.88

00:35:57.000 A group of them were getting on the plane.

00:35:59.000 One of them had oxygen tanks.

00:36:00.000 I've told the story.

00:36:01.000 Looked like he was about to die.

00:36:02.000 I guarantee he died within a year.

00:36:03.000 I mean, he looked bad.

00:36:04.000 Could barely walk.

00:36:06.000 Had his elderly wife helping him.

00:36:10.000 They were pushing along the oxygen tank.

00:36:14.000 And, uh, they would search you... I think it was 2002.

00:36:20.000 Once you'd gone through the gates, but then again, Randomly going onto the plane, right before he went on the plane.

00:36:29.000 At the gate.

00:36:31.000 Not just going through the terminals.

00:36:36.000 And I've been in airports, I've been to the Austin Airport, where some guy was reading a book that looked like something out of 1984, it was a black covered book with white lettering saying, it said, How Someone Becomes a Terrorist.

00:36:50.000 And see, it's a culture of paranoia.

00:36:53.000 And so to keep those guys going and not completely bored, they'll ban lighters, they'll ban matches, then later it's fluids, then later it's how much fluids you can have.

00:37:03.000 At first, again, it's dog training.

00:37:06.000 Every fourth, fifth person until about 2004, they want you to take your shoes off if the beeper went off.

00:37:12.000 And then it's everybody.

00:37:16.000 And then it's, oh, and I've got the TSA thing here.

00:37:18.000 I mean, if you've got piercings and your skin grows over them, They make you take them out with pliers.

00:37:26.000 They have pliers there for it.

00:37:29.000 Or you don't have to fly.

00:37:30.000 But soon it'll be, you don't have to have a job, you don't have to drive a car, you don't have to... Very soon you get on the road and you're not paid up and don't have your national ID card in order, the car will turn off.

00:37:39.000 Bare minimum, the cameras will scan your license plate and the police will be dispatched.

00:37:43.000 That's official and that's the new system.

00:37:46.000 Life will be like the airports. 1.00

00:37:52.000 But people say it's ridiculous, the TSA is stupid, the government are morons. 1.00

00:37:57.000 Well, the guys and gals that believe all this is for security are morons, but the Pavlovian psychological warfare experts know this is part of your journey into slavery. 1.00

00:38:07.000 You are being acclimated. 1.00

00:38:09.000 They've written about it.

00:38:12.000 And if you can be made to remove your piercings from your breast, If you can be made to remove piercings from other places, I won't mention.

00:38:22.000 If you can be made to have women and men, and there's been a lot of cases of this in the news, where the men like to, and I've seen it, good looking women are in trouble. 1.00

00:38:29.000 I mean, if you're a perv, it's where you get a job.

00:38:32.000 It's been like that throughout history. 0.89

00:38:35.000 Pregnant women are made to pull up their shirts and show their bellies in front of people, and then the woman cries, so they arrest her. 1.00

00:38:43.000 The husband complains, so they beat him up.

00:38:48.000 That was in the major papers.

00:38:50.000 That's just one case of hundreds.

00:38:52.000 I see them every day.

00:38:53.000 Five, six-year-olds are tasered for arguing.

00:38:56.000 People who don't give urine samples are tasered.

00:38:58.000 Pain compliance.

00:38:59.000 Torture is legal in this country.

00:39:01.000 Of course, it's illegal, but they criminally say it's legal.

00:39:05.000 It's their policy. 1.00

00:39:09.000 And so, it's about making you do things that are stupid and ridiculous. 0.99

00:39:13.000 I saw a report Monday I never covered out of the London Telegraph just type buses must stop every 30 minutes under EU rules and the European Union makes all buses stop every 30 minutes and everyone must get off to make sure the bus driver doesn't fall asleep. 0.98

00:39:38.000 See they take something that sounds reasonable But then they set international laws under it, and once you're trained to do something that sounds reasonable but is really ridiculous, then you'll follow any other orders.

00:39:51.000 It's habitualization.

00:39:52.000 You know, I was on Talk Sport Monday for two hours, and I was listening to ads run by the government, by the EU, Saying, you know, stop every 30 minutes, be safe.

00:40:09.000 This causes hundreds of deaths a year, people falling asleep, and it does.

00:40:12.000 I thought, there's some government angle to this.

00:40:15.000 So while the show was going, I googled new rules on drivers sleeping.

00:40:25.000 And then all this stuff came up where the police are watching, they stop the bus every 30 minutes, everybody gets off.

00:40:32.000 It's about Being micromanaged, totally controlled, and then once the silliness is set, once the silly precedent is set, everything else can flow.

00:40:43.000 So once you've been trained to take your shoes off, and be fondled, and take piercings out, and put the borders wide open, and they give illegal aliens any IDs they want, and the government accepts consular matricular cards, on its face it's a fraud.

00:40:56.000 It's not about terror.

00:41:00.000 It's not about keeping you safe from the boogeyman. 0.97

00:41:06.000 And I know I've made this point, everybody's made this point, but we need to write articles about this, we need to point out this basic psychology so people understand, because they keep saying it's so dumb.

00:41:16.000 Explosive experts go on the news and say, well it would take several hours with chemicals that they're talking about to go in the bathroom and make these explosives, and then they wouldn't be very high-powered explosives.

00:41:28.000 You know, first it's you've got to drink out of the water.

00:41:31.000 When you carry it on.

00:41:32.000 And then it's about being eyed.

00:41:34.000 It's about being questioned.

00:41:36.000 It's about being shoved up against a wall.

00:41:39.000 It's about showing papers.

00:41:41.000 It's about being prepared.

00:41:42.000 And now they're saying they want to put similar security in malls.

00:41:46.000 They want to put it on the streets. 0.56

00:41:47.000 The schools.

00:41:48.000 Thumbscaling to get school lunches.

00:41:49.000 Thumbprinting to clock into jobs.

00:41:53.000 Thumbprinting to get library books.

00:41:54.000 Thumbprinting to go to the gym.

00:41:57.000 The tanning salon.

00:41:58.000 Thumbprinting to go to the megachurch.

00:42:01.000 That's all to be part of the Casual Society.

00:42:03.000 As I told you 10 years ago.

00:42:05.000 Now 11 years ago, excuse me, in my first film, America Destroyed by Design.

00:42:15.000 And then they announce, we're gonna have them on the streets, the Viper teams, in Dallas, in Houston, in L.A., Miami.

00:42:24.000 Just randomly searching, randomly.

00:42:26.000 And then New York.

00:42:28.000 Over 500,000 in 2007, random stop and searches.

00:42:32.000 They just pull cars over randomly.

00:42:35.000 We've got video of this in the upcoming film.

00:42:37.000 I haven't chosen a name yet for it, but just where they just block off a major street in New York, they just search everybody.

00:42:48.000 Just like when you go get a bank account now, it's Like you're joining the FBI or something.

00:42:53.000 Background checks, 20 questions, spying on you.

00:42:56.000 Of course they don't tell you, hey slave, we're reporting everything you're doing to the government.

00:43:00.000 It's all uploaded to the government.

00:43:02.000 You go in to have a baby.

00:43:03.000 They're hooked into the health department with a computer.

00:43:05.000 Reporting everything you're doing.

00:43:06.000 Asking you questions.

00:43:07.000 Not telling you this is going right to, not even the police who still have some due process, but to the other tier, the Social Worker Guild they set up a hundred years ago to carry out eugenics. 0.83

00:43:19.000 You got a good environment?

00:43:20.000 Your husband nice to you?

00:43:23.000 Huh?

00:43:23.000 Tell me the truth.

00:43:24.000 You can trust me.

00:43:25.000 I always tell them to leave.

00:43:26.000 I'm your friend.

00:43:27.000 Tell me.

00:43:28.000 I'm your friend.

00:43:29.000 They're not your friend.

00:43:35.000 They've all been habitualized to be little spooks and little tattletales and they all enjoy it.

00:43:40.000 It's their little power position for the betterment of society.

00:43:44.000 They're professionals.

00:43:45.000 Yeah, they professionally took over a thousand times the amount of blood-thickening vitamin that they demand that they give your baby.

00:43:59.000 you And they give it to Dennis Quaid and his kids almost die.

00:44:04.000 To his kids.

00:44:06.000 And they kill more people in the hospitals every year than automobiles do.

00:44:10.000 From just drug interactions.

00:44:12.000 But it doesn't matter, they're perfect, they're good.

00:44:15.000 Everything's merging into the government.

00:44:19.000 All internationally standardized.

00:44:23.000 Mandy Hamlin, 37, is demanding a civil rights investigation as well as an apology from federal security agents after being forced to remove a nipple ring before boarding a flight from Lubbock to Dallas in Texas.

00:44:39.000 During a press conference, Ms.

00:44:40.000 Hamlin said she was scammed by a Female Transportation Security Administration agent using a handheld detector that beeped when it passed in front of her chest. 1.00

00:44:48.000 Then it goes into how they drug her behind closed doors, made her pull it out with pliers, Laughed at her.

00:44:54.000 And you know what it was like to take my shoes off?

00:45:00.000 Walk over where thousands of people had walked with all their athlete's foot, all their germs?

00:45:04.000 Somebody ought to make an issue of that to try to stop it.

00:45:08.000 See, it's all selectively enforced.

00:45:11.000 They'll have you ninnying about something else environmental, everybody with hand sanitizers everywhere, wiping neurotically.

00:45:17.000 Obsessive compulsively, but then you're going to walk across where everybody else from the whole planet in LAX has been walking.

00:45:23.000 And then they just say, oh, you know, you didn't beep.

00:45:26.000 We're going to scan you.

00:45:27.000 Come on over here.

00:45:28.000 They start waving the wand.

00:45:29.000 They go, mist, come on, Mr. Stinky Feet. 0.70

00:45:32.000 Oh, he got stinky feet. 0.99

00:45:36.000 And I guess they were black guys who'd been teased by whites when they were kids, big black guys. 0.98

00:45:40.000 So it was fun to, and I forgive them. 1.00

00:45:42.000 They're just brainwashed, poor, pathetic slaves like everybody else. 1.00

00:45:46.000 I didn't even get mad. 1.00

00:45:46.000 I was really sad. 1.00

00:45:47.000 I almost started crying, because I realized this country's completely gone.

00:45:52.000 Mr. Stinky Feet! 1.00

00:45:54.000 Come on, Mr. Stinky Feet! 0.61

00:45:56.000 He got Stinky Feet!

00:45:57.000 Yeah, he got Stinky Feet!

00:46:00.000 And I looked at him with sadness, and they just kind of shamefully went off to somebody else, but... Oh, Mr. Stinky Feet.

00:46:10.000 He got to Stinky Feet. 0.99

00:46:15.000 Her nipple ring! 1.00

00:46:18.000 Oh, she doesn't like having it removed! 1.00

00:46:22.000 And they're not going to like getting right into the pits either when the soldiers shoot them in the back of the head.

00:46:27.000 But the soldiers like it because they're on the winning team.

00:46:32.000 And they've been trained to do it.

00:46:34.000 And the grandsons of the people that financed it all run the nation.

00:46:39.000 And so they make a big deal about this in the news.

00:46:42.000 So see, when you're just having to have your shoes off and be in question, you won't feel as bad, because after all, they make women take their piercings out. 1.00

00:46:51.000 Spy drones in demand by U.S.

00:46:51.000 Here's another one.

00:46:53.000 police departments, but approval pending.

00:46:58.000 The Miami police could soon be cutting edge, flying drones to help fight crime.

00:47:03.000 Oh, yes!

00:47:05.000 Mounted with little infrared systems and sonar systems.

00:47:11.000 They'd look right through your walls and give them nice images.

00:47:14.000 The classified stuff's been color for decades, but the stuff they're now publicly deploying is a nice black and white image.

00:47:21.000 And hey, let the helicopter fly in grids over your house.

00:47:25.000 You see, the cops on the ground, they like the feds coming and advertising the new systems controlled by joysticks.

00:47:31.000 Only weigh 20 pounds or so, so it's not too bad if it falls on somebody.

00:47:35.000 So now the cops get to have them.

00:47:37.000 L.A.

00:47:37.000 for about four years, Uh, has been, without even FAA approval, has drones flying around everywhere, these little saucers.

00:47:45.000 It's all part of the militarization.

00:47:49.000 And it says, um, how Honeywell International and other defense contractors have got a new market, the police.

00:47:58.000 Developer sues to win $12.3 billion.

00:48:02.000 Larry Silverstein's already been paid out $4.6 billion.

00:48:05.000 He's scheduled to get another $2 billion that's still been withheld.

00:48:08.000 But he wants $12.3 billion from damages from airlines and airport security companies for the 9-11 attack.

00:48:19.000 And of course the airlines themselves, the top three, were given $35 billion after the attacks as an aid package.

00:48:27.000 More than those companies make profit together in five years.

00:48:29.000 I crunched the number at the time.

00:48:30.000 That was a payoff for a job well done.

00:48:32.000 Then they were given billions more in supplement.

00:48:33.000 This will just be another public payoff.

00:48:36.000 Larry Silverstein for a job well done.

00:48:38.000 Well, he's going to come out with over 17 billion dollars total when all is said and done.

00:48:44.000 And that's just the payment for going along with the black op. 0.92

00:48:51.000 Crime really does pay well, doesn't it, when you run the government.

00:48:56.000 But criminals always go wild and start killing everybody en masse.

00:48:59.000 That's why they always fall.

00:49:03.000 But see, they need that thrill of doing something dangerous.

00:49:06.000 Psychopaths always want to get caught.

00:49:08.000 That's why they always do get caught down the road, because they get wilder and wilder.

00:49:13.000 They get more and more reckless.

00:49:19.000 Of course, we die in the process, but that's okay, isn't it?

00:49:22.000 Call for new 9-11 investigation reaches crescendo.

00:49:26.000 Public figures increasingly speaking out, while media ignores professionals and experts.

00:49:32.000 Great article by Paul Watson up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:49:35.000 I hope you get it out to everybody.

00:49:37.000 This is an article that needs to get out to everybody.

00:49:39.000 Calls for a new 9-11 inquiry are reaching a crescendo with well-respected authorities and celebrities alike adding their voices to the cause as the official 9-11 story crumbles under the weight of revelations of White House ties, 9-11 Commission, and other cover-ups on behalf of authorities staffed with investigating the attacks.

00:49:58.000 The corporate media's insistence of ignoring hundreds of professional experts who are calling for a new 9-11 investigation has spurred many celebrities to use their public platforms to speak out, knowing that the press will at least have to address the issue.

00:50:16.000 Because they are so celebrity obsessed.

00:50:19.000 The latest to do so is top comedian Margaret Cho.

00:50:23.000 Who told the Alex Jones Show yesterday that the public were going to become very angry when it was fully disclosed that the attacks were a conspiracy, concurred with fellow comedian George Carlin, who also questioned the official story last year.

00:50:38.000 And then it just goes through the prime ministers, the presidents, the CIA section chiefs, the engineers, the physicists.

00:50:47.000 Jesse Ventura! 0.99

00:50:49.000 Yeah, we're coming for you, murderers! 1.00

00:50:52.000 We're gonna get ya!

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00:54:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:10.000 This article that Paul Watson wrote is excellent.

00:54:14.000 It's lengthy as well.

00:54:16.000 I mean, it just goes through all the people that have gone public.

00:54:23.000 I should just read this.

00:54:26.000 Ed Asner.

00:54:30.000 We've got Rick Linklater.

00:54:32.000 I mean, the list just goes on and on.

00:54:35.000 Best actress this year.

00:54:37.000 Other Academy Award winners.

00:54:43.000 On and on and on and on and on and on and on.

00:54:49.000 And on top of it, separately, National U.S.

00:54:52.000 News is reporting that all these top forensic scientists are saying that Kennedy was shot from behind.

00:54:58.000 Well, the original coroner said that.

00:55:00.000 And we have BBC coming out with a three-year investigation with photos and film of four top CIA operatives from Southeast Asia there around him, and that's what the witnesses saw and reported that one of these guys shot him in the back.

00:55:15.000 It's been declassified that Israel attacked the USS Liberty on purpose.

00:55:20.000 Chicago Tribune, Associated Press, never got any news after that.

00:55:23.000 It's now admitted.

00:55:25.000 Everything we always told you.

00:55:26.000 Tried to blame it on Egypt.

00:55:28.000 It's now been declassified.

00:55:29.000 They said our government staged the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam.

00:55:33.000 It came out within days.

00:55:34.000 They staged the thing a few months ago where they claimed the Iranians were driving up in little motorboats saying we're gonna blow you up.

00:55:40.000 Totally fake.

00:55:41.000 Now admit it.

00:55:44.000 Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cover-ups are being uncovered.

00:55:49.000 And the same old men at the CIA and NSA just sit up there running their same old tricks on us.

00:55:57.000 Over and thinking we're going to buy it.

00:56:00.000 Over and over and over again.

00:56:02.000 And I think they don't care because they're going to set off nukes or release bird flu or whatever they're going to do.

00:56:12.000 Just everybody, none of us are safe until they all go to prison.

00:56:14.000 You understand that?

00:56:17.000 This isn't going to go away.

00:56:18.000 It's not going to stop.

00:56:20.000 We have to avert the next attack.

00:56:22.000 We've got to stop it.

00:56:23.000 Everything I do is to stop that next attack.

00:56:25.000 The reason I went public before 9-11 and predicted it was because I saw them preparing the public to carry out the attack.

00:56:32.000 I've always said we have to take false flag terrorism, that mechanism, their favorite tool, their favorite weapon, and we have to totally expose it and render it useless.

00:56:42.000 And we've done that partially, but we haven't gone far enough.

00:56:46.000 False flag terror.

00:56:49.000 The 9-11 Truth Movement is the heart Of stopping the globalists and their problem reaction solution, Hegelian dialectic.

00:57:01.000 If we do not have a universal understanding of that, and a universal discrediting of the private corporations that own and run the majority of the world's governments, and are mopping up the last few they don't right now, to focus in on exterminating the majority of humanity, and that's their statement not mine, If we do not expose their favorite tool, they're going to continue to beat the brush, to drive us out into the open, so that they can have their way with us.

00:57:28.000 Ancients would beat drums, set fires, drive the elephants, the mammoths, the mastodons, over the cliffs, and then they could butcher them and have enough food for the winter.

00:57:41.000 That's how they were extinct, most archaeologists and anthropologists, archaeologists believe.

00:57:50.000 Just how they hunt pheasant in England today.

00:57:53.000 They have beaters a few miles away get in a line and then they start beating and they come in kind of in a wedge, a V, and then they push out the birds at one point and hundreds will come flying out.

00:58:06.000 That's all terrorism is.

00:58:09.000 Now we're not pheasants and we're not elephants.

00:58:13.000 Though elephants are magical creatures and very intelligent, they are not able to understand And they were made extinct, that form of pachyderm.

00:58:24.000 Now ladies and gentlemen, we're humans, we can fight back against these bad humans.

00:58:29.000 They hit us with fluoride, tried to get the upper hand, but it's not working.

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01:00:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:11.000 We're going to be talking to a guest who runs a little newspaper up in Maine, but he did more than all the mainstream media has done combined.

01:00:40.000 He went out and investigated the larger ramifications of an announcement made a month ago of The Canadian and U.S.

01:00:54.000 military saying that they will use each other's foreign troops on domestic soil.

01:01:00.000 So that is coming up.

01:01:05.000 But before we go any further, I wanted to just play this clip because I've come across it and somebody sent it to me again.

01:01:13.000 This is earlier this year, Sarah Taylor, former White House political director, And you hear Bush say, my government, my government, and you hear Cheney say, I don't care what 80% of the public want.

01:01:32.000 You get your input every four years, we can do whatever we want.

01:01:35.000 We can torture, we can torture kids, we can take your Bill of Rights, we can legalize illegals, we can go after your guns. 0.99

01:01:41.000 No, we have a Bill of Rights.

01:01:42.000 In a republic, the basic rights are protected.

01:01:46.000 And if 51% want slavery, you can't, because you can't violate the rights of the 49%.

01:01:49.000 That's the difference between a pure democracy and a constitutional republic.

01:01:55.000 And the White House, the executive, is the weakest of the three branches.

01:02:00.000 It goes legislative, judicial, executive.

01:02:03.000 If you really read the debates when it was all founded and set up, the executive is told what to do with the laws, basically, by the Congress.

01:02:10.000 They declare war.

01:02:12.000 And then the court sits there and referees between the two.

01:02:17.000 Because you have the greatest separation of powers in the Congress.

01:02:20.000 At the time, senators were Elected by the legislatures they were sent by the state's creatures of the states, but look I Don't want to confuse everybody with the facts.

01:02:29.000 Let's just play her basically saying George Bush is God You ready with the Sarah Taylor clip John That's the Yes, that's the clip all right there we go I was looking over my notes during the break, Ms.

01:02:53.000 Taylor, and I was really struck by one of your answers.

01:03:02.000 I don't know the answer to your question.

01:03:04.000 I will say, Senator, I was a deputy assistant to the president.

01:03:09.000 I was a commissioned officer.

01:03:10.000 I took an oath, and I take that oath to the president very seriously.

01:03:18.000 I know the President said recently, he referred to our government as his government.

01:03:25.000 He said, my government.

01:03:28.000 Most of us always assume it's the government of all of us, not just of one individual.

01:03:34.000 It was almost a monarchy kind of question, kind of answer that he gave, although it may explain a lot of things.

01:03:42.000 And then you said, I took a note to the President I take that oath very seriously.

01:03:50.000 Did you mean perhaps you took an oath to the Constitution?

01:03:55.000 Yes, you're correct.

01:03:56.000 I took an oath to the Constitution.

01:03:57.000 Did you take a second oath to the President?

01:04:02.000 I did not.

01:04:03.000 The answer was incorrect.

01:04:05.000 The answer was incorrect.

01:04:06.000 What I should have said is that I took an oath.

01:04:06.000 Thank you.

01:04:09.000 I took that oath seriously.

01:04:10.000 And I believe that taking that oath means that I need to respect and do respect my service to the President.

01:04:20.000 No, the oath says that you take an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States.

01:04:26.000 That is your paramount duty.

01:04:30.000 I know the President refers to the government as being his government.

01:04:34.000 It's not.

01:04:35.000 It's the government of the people of America.

01:04:38.000 Your oath is not to uphold the President.

01:04:42.000 Nor is mine to uphold the Senate.

01:04:45.000 My oath, like your oath, is to uphold the Constitution.

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01:08:03.000 Dave Duchesne is our guest for the next 25 minutes.

01:08:10.000 I was aware of his work, but I heard him on Pastor Butch Paw Show, 8 o'clock central last night, driving along down the highway, here in Austin, back to work.

01:08:18.000 And he's just done amazing research.

01:08:21.000 Now, really, none of this is true.

01:08:22.000 I mean, none of this is new.

01:08:24.000 They're just now beginning to be truthful about it.

01:08:30.000 They're just now beginning to come out with it.

01:08:32.000 In the past, they were deceptive.

01:08:34.000 If you take my film, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, we have the Washington Post in there and other news articles where it said, Mexico to Canadian troops will be used during emergencies in the U.S.

01:08:48.000 Then NORTHCOM, when it was officially established, signed deals with them.

01:08:52.000 They've used Mexican and Canadian troops, put out fires.

01:08:54.000 Mexican troops in New Orleans.

01:08:58.000 That's all now been on the record.

01:08:59.000 Norwegian AWACS.

01:09:02.000 They were very quiet about it.

01:09:04.000 They wouldn't talk about it.

01:09:05.000 And now they're beginning to be more out in the open with it.

01:09:12.000 And, I mean, you see reports about Texas State Police sent to teach the Royal Mounted Police how to run checkpoints and violate people.

01:09:20.000 I mean, that was in the news last year.

01:09:22.000 It's all being merged.

01:09:23.000 You see Blackwater and other security at the airports up there searching Canadians coming in.

01:09:30.000 We had, in the last month, the CFR and several other big think tanks Come out and call for a North American Union, first merging the border regions in the Great Lakes, just like the border regions of Mexico have already been merged under Agenda 21.

01:09:50.000 And I quote, 100-mile buffer zone.

01:09:54.000 So it's all happening.

01:09:55.000 We're going into the North American Union, just like Governor Ridge, former Homeland Security head, we played A tape where he admitted that they want a national ID card, but he said it's not really that, it's a national driver's license, but it is a national ID card.

01:10:07.000 So they say, well we want to integrate the countries, but we don't want to merge them.

01:10:11.000 Integrate is merge.

01:10:12.000 When you take a deck of cards and stack them and then put them back together again, that's integrating them.

01:10:25.000 When you mix the cards up, you're integrating them.

01:10:27.000 It's the same thing as merging them.

01:10:29.000 You take two stacks and fan them together.

01:10:33.000 What's that called?

01:10:34.000 Sometimes the simplest things, I can't... You know, you take the cards, you go... put them back together, mix the cards up, shuffle them.

01:10:43.000 Thank you, John.

01:10:45.000 John, the little bird that pops in and helps me.

01:10:48.000 Shuffle the cards.

01:10:51.000 But he decided to actually go interview one of the generals involved in this merger.

01:10:55.000 He decided, and in fact he helped ferret it out and really get the mainstream media to report on it, and he decided to really talk to the local governments who had no idea, the governors, the governors aren't included in this, and he is the publisher and also the editor of the Fort Fairfield Journal.

01:11:15.000 Got a link to that up on Infowars.com.

01:11:17.000 And I appreciate Dave.

01:11:23.000 Is it DeShane, or how do I pronounce your name?

01:11:27.000 DeShane is correct.

01:11:29.000 Okay, well thank you for coming on the show with us, sir.

01:11:33.000 I heard you last night, you were really informative.

01:11:35.000 You've got the floor for the next 20 minutes or so.

01:11:37.000 Just as simply as you can, tell us the basics of what's happened.

01:11:41.000 How would you, with your little publication, help push this out further into the open, and then your meeting with the General, and what we're actually facing?

01:11:49.000 Okay, Alex, a couple of weeks ago I ran a story, as WorldNetDaily did and a few other independents online, about the civil assistance plan signed by the generals of USNorthCom slash NORAD and CanadaCom in Fort Sam Houston, Texas, down your way.

01:12:12.000 And I thought, okay, I'll run the story, and I ran it as a North American Union military story.

01:12:20.000 And then I thought to myself, wouldn't it be interesting to find out what our local emergency management director has to say about it at the county level?

01:12:28.000 And I said, well, I'm questioning him.

01:12:31.000 Maybe I'll write a letter to the county sheriff.

01:12:33.000 So I got letters together for our Aroostook Emergency Management, which is our county management agency.

01:12:41.000 We're in Aroostook County.

01:12:43.000 And I mailed one off to our county sheriff and then one to our secretary of state.

01:12:49.000 Next thing you know, the letters started going up the chain of command, and they wound up all the way to our state capitol in Augusta.

01:12:56.000 And I was then putting in contact with Robert McAleer, our state emergency management director, who had no idea that this civil assistance plan was signed three weeks previous at the time.

01:13:11.000 This was about the first of March when I started querying them.

01:13:15.000 Next thing you know, I'm getting a call from our State Adjutant General, a General Bill Libby.

01:13:21.000 He's a Major General, so that's two stars.

01:13:23.000 And he's in charge of our State National Guard.

01:13:25.000 He had no idea that this had occurred, and it took about a week for them to finally get a copy of the agreement from NORTHCOM, so that they could even review it to comment on it.

01:13:38.000 Because I had a series of questions that I was really interested in having answered, and What I got from them was, we really want to answer your questions, but we have no idea what the Civil Assistance Plan is, because we never heard of it.

01:13:51.000 Well, they finally did get a copy of it, and I did get a chance to meet with General Libby, and I think he was very honest and sincere and forthright in trying to answer my questions, but he didn't answer them.

01:14:08.000 And he didn't answer them simply because the Civil Assistance Plan I wasn't addressing some of the things that I had concerns about.

01:14:15.000 One of the concerns was, will the Canadian troops be required to swear oath of allegiance to the United States or the U.S.

01:14:24.000 Constitution in the event that they are used in this country?

01:14:28.000 Well, I want to go through all that, but I want to go back here and make it clear in your articles very scholarly.

01:14:34.000 There's actually two of them.

01:14:36.000 They're excellent.

01:14:37.000 And covering the law, covering the agreement, that's been very secretive.

01:14:42.000 The governors, the Congress of the United States, they have not been included in this.

01:14:47.000 And this is part of the Continuity of Government Plan under PDD 51 that Bush has told the Homeland Security Committee of the House and Senate they can't see.

01:14:57.000 Now, again, the Speaker of the House is at the same level of the President.

01:15:01.000 The leader of the Senate is at the same level.

01:15:04.000 When you come to power in the three branches of government, they are equal.

01:15:09.000 It's co-equal is the term.

01:15:11.000 Bush is saying no, and even in the declassified short version of PDD 51, the accompanying executive order, Bush says, Congress, you don't run anything anymore.

01:15:23.000 This is a declaration of Führer-like powers. 0.98

01:15:28.000 And I played the former White House political director, Sarah Taylor, earlier, saying she swears an oath to Bush, not to America.

01:15:38.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:15:40.000 Yeah, and I think I got that from the interview, and I think General Libby was in a roundabout way figuring that out, too, because he said, well, don't worry, the state governor and the Adjutant Generals of the various states, they're the ones who have to request the use of foreign troops through NORTHCOM.

01:16:03.000 That's not true!

01:16:04.000 That's not true!

01:16:06.000 That's correct, and I showed him I showed him section 1068 of the 2008 National Defense Authorization Act.

01:16:13.000 I had a copy of it right in front of me, and we read it word for word, and it says, the President shall use, and the words are, the militia, armed forces, or both, or by any other means, and shall take such measures as he considers necessary.

01:16:29.000 And I said, General Libby, that says President.

01:16:31.000 As he considers necessary.

01:16:33.000 That doesn't say Governor.

01:16:34.000 That doesn't say Adjutant General.

01:16:36.000 That doesn't say any of those emergency management agencies.

01:16:40.000 It says President.

01:16:41.000 And he essentially said, well, that's a little above my pay grade to answer those questions.

01:16:49.000 Put it in a nutshell and then go through your meeting and the other excellent points you make.

01:16:53.000 I mean, this is so off the chart this is happening.

01:16:56.000 And it is happening.

01:16:58.000 And the governors and the federal Congress isn't even allowed to be involved and has no authority.

01:17:07.000 But Bush can't just say that.

01:17:08.000 Well, it's like Hitler couldn't say he was Fuhrer.

01:17:10.000 He did.

01:17:10.000 People followed the order.

01:17:12.000 And you know what happened.

01:17:13.000 We have... And again, folks, I know a lot of you love Bush.

01:17:16.000 That's fine.

01:17:17.000 You love the narrative.

01:17:18.000 Well, he's a total puppet, runs nothing.

01:17:20.000 Well, your God, Hillary, or your God, Obama, is going to have these powers. 0.55

01:17:23.000 Go ahead.

01:17:24.000 Right.

01:17:24.000 And just as he got done saying, well, don't worry, it's just going to be the governors and attorneys generals inviting them in, I said, well, I made the point that you just admitted, General, that you weren't included in the discussions on this plan.

01:17:38.000 So you weren't included on the discussions, you weren't advised that it even occurred, and you expect them to let you invite in the Canadian troops on a plan that they went around your back on.

01:17:53.000 And there was pretty much silence in the room then.

01:17:56.000 We, of course, had to move on, but I wanted to know things like, will the Canadians, or, and I said essentially it's foreign military, so I referred a lot to the foreign military, will they be allowed to carry arms in our country?

01:18:10.000 Because he had said, General Levy had said, well, don't worry, they're not going to be here for law enforcement.

01:18:15.000 Just right after I showed him Section 1068 of the NDAA, I said, okay, if they're not going to be here for law enforcement, are they going to be armed?

01:18:24.000 And he says the Civil Assistance Plan is silent on that question.

01:18:29.000 I said, okay, that's interesting.

01:18:31.000 It is not silent.

01:18:32.000 It is not silent because in earlier agreements between NORTHCOM and in mainstream news reports and NORTHCOM press releases, they've said for civil emergencies and to deal with terrorists And they have trained, and I've been to Urban Warfare Drills, where they train with foreign troops for operations in the US.

01:18:51.000 Go ahead.

01:18:51.000 Okay.

01:18:52.000 And I said, furthermore, I'd like to know who these foreign troops are, who's going to be their command structure, if and when they are deployed in the state.

01:19:02.000 And I was speaking specifically from a state of Maine level, because I'm talking to the Maine Adjutant General, and I said, if Canadian troops are in our state, I would like to know who's in charge of them.

01:19:11.000 Is it going to be the Sheriff?

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01:19:32.000 Exactly.

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01:24:10.000 Dave, continuing in the brief time that we've got, other key points that's in the two articles you've done or the new info you're coming out with, you've got the floor.

01:24:21.000 Okay, the main concern that I had was if we have a shortage of manpower and we need extra troops and our National Guard is called away or there isn't enough of them, I asked General Libby to comment on our main State Guard, because as you've mentioned in the past on your show, That various states do have their own state guard, which is a separate, standalone entity from the National Guard.

01:24:46.000 And in Maine, our state guard is codified at Maine Revised Statutes, Title 37B, Sections 221 to 225, I believe it is.

01:24:56.000 And it essentially says that the Maine State Guard is empowered by the governor.

01:25:02.000 It is made up of the militia, and it does use the word militia, ages 18 to 45 years of age.

01:25:08.000 And it is to be equipped, it is to be uniformed and share the same military rank as the Army, the U.S.

01:25:15.000 Army, but it is not to be used in federal service.

01:25:19.000 It is not to be used outside of the borders of the state.

01:25:22.000 And it was originally formed during World War II when our National Guard was sent overseas, activated, sent overseas.

01:25:30.000 We wanted a guard unit still in the state, so we formed the Maine State Guard.

01:25:37.000 And we equipped them.

01:25:38.000 And I asked General Libya, I said, look, we don't need to go to Canada or England or Germany or anywhere else for troops, for assistance.

01:25:45.000 We've got enough people right here in the state now that can pass out blankets and bottled water and do whatever else needs to be done.

01:25:52.000 We can do it through an organization that already exists in the Maine State Guard.

01:25:57.000 We don't have to pass any new laws and we don't have to make any new plans or protocols.

01:26:03.000 And he said the State Guard currently has nobody in it.

01:26:06.000 And that it exists solely on paper.

01:26:08.000 And that's as far as he would go with that.

01:26:10.000 Because, of course, he can't activate the State Guard.

01:26:13.000 That would have to be the Governor.

01:26:14.000 Well, there's bad and worse here.

01:26:16.000 And, number one, Bush has federalized the National Guard, said he's above the Governors and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

01:26:23.000 All of it fits seamlessly into his PDD 51 saying he's a dictator.

01:26:27.000 Or the Office of the Presidency is.

01:26:28.000 We don't want to make this about his personality because it's going to go way past that particular puppet.

01:26:34.000 That meat puppet they've got. 0.88

01:26:35.000 So issue one is that he's acting as a dictator, saying he runs and owns and they all, they even have a new, they've added on, they still have the old oath, but they've added on one to him now, in the military.

01:26:51.000 And his chiefs of staff and people literally say they worship him, they follow him.

01:26:55.000 His White House memos say that law comes from him.

01:26:58.000 He cannot break the law.

01:27:00.000 He can torture children with pliers.

01:27:03.000 He can order that.

01:27:03.000 That's actually in memos to the Defense Department listeners.

01:27:06.000 That's mainstream news.

01:27:07.000 I mean, this is insane.

01:27:10.000 But they know what they're doing.

01:27:11.000 They're setting that precedent.

01:27:13.000 But that's bad enough.

01:27:14.000 Now it's the old bring in the mercenaries that have been brought into our shores three separate times. 0.52

01:27:19.000 The Hessians, the Germans, others.

01:27:22.000 1776, 1812, the Mexicans brought in mercenaries from Ireland and other places.

01:27:29.000 This has happened before and we're dealing with this now.

01:27:33.000 So just the ultimate insult to injury, the rubbing it in.

01:27:39.000 Your comments.

01:27:44.000 Yeah, that's correct, Alex.

01:27:46.000 And what I think the solution would be would be to activate a Maine State Guard in the event it were needed.

01:27:53.000 But it doesn't seem at the state level that that is even really a discussion that they're interested in having.

01:28:01.000 They have roped them in as well, as I show in Martial Law, the film, to be minions being directed by the Federal Guard.

01:28:11.000 In most cases.

01:28:13.000 Yep.

01:28:14.000 And I think they were a little put off by the fact that they weren't even included in this discussion.

01:28:20.000 He said he would have at least liked to have been forewarned that they had this civilizations plan going, so that when somebody like me from the press comes to him, he'd have some intelligent answers to give.

01:28:33.000 And he gave me some answers, and I don't think he was lying to me, because he did call me.

01:28:39.000 I didn't call him.

01:28:41.000 Uh, and he suggested we meet.

01:28:43.000 So, he reached out to me, and I respect him for that, but it was almost like his hands were tied as to what he could reveal or what he couldn't reveal.

01:28:56.000 Now, on record, you met with this two-star Brigadier General, or Major General, in charge of what area?

01:29:04.000 He is the Adjutant General.

01:29:06.000 So, he's the top general.

01:29:08.000 He's in charge of the Maine National Guard.

01:29:09.000 He's also the Governor's Stay there.

01:29:15.000 I want to do two or three minutes on the other side.

01:29:20.000 Because you pointed out to him, PDD 51, you pointed out that... And I want to specifically get what his response was, even his body language to that.

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01:36:01.000 Okay, going back to the Fort Fairfield Journal writer and editor who put the story out, North American Union military forges new Canadian alliance, Canadian military to assist in civilian law enforcement duties in the United States.

01:36:19.000 He went and met with One of the top generals over all this who wasn't even aware of what was happening.

01:36:25.000 In closing, what happened when you brought up the fact that under the executive orders under PDD 51 that the states didn't have any authority and that the president claimed all authority and that Congress didn't have authority?

01:36:40.000 Well, I addressed that question with him this way.

01:36:42.000 I explained to him the NDAA and I showed him how it says It uses the words insurrection, and it says if that opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States.

01:36:55.000 And I said, General Libby, there's a law in the United States called Real ID that Maine has said they're not going to follow.

01:37:01.000 And I told him, I said, I'm not sitting here making pretend that the president is going to, or even implying the president's going to come into the state with his troops or Canadian troops and force us to take Real ID.

01:37:13.000 But I said, you know, we live in a very strange and fluid and unpredictable world where events happen.

01:37:20.000 And an event may happen in this state which the feds can then capitalize on and use that as a precursor and as an excuse to bring their troops in.

01:37:30.000 So, supposing something were to happen and we bring the troops in, we've got some foreign troops in here now, and they decide they're going to start exercising law enforcement, they're going to take over our police legislature or even our governor's office, What measures are in place to prevent that from happening, given the fact that if we brought in these foreign troops, we admittedly don't have enough people in state to handle it now. 0.90

01:37:55.000 He simply said the plan doesn't address that question.

01:37:59.000 I've only got about a minute left.

01:38:00.000 We really appreciate you coming on and joining us.

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01:38:08.000 Mr. Duchenne, in 60 seconds, any other key points?

01:38:14.000 My biggest key point, and the one that I'm going to keep harping on, is the State Guard.

01:38:18.000 If we're going to have emergencies that we need extra hands on, we need to get educated on our own State Guard units.

01:38:26.000 I've researched the other states.

01:38:28.000 New York has one.

01:38:29.000 I believe New Hampshire has one.

01:38:30.000 Vermont.

01:38:31.000 There are some states that don't have them in their statute yet, but there are certainly enough of them that people can put some pressure on their legislators and their governors to Consider seriously the use of their own state's guards as opposed to national guards.

01:38:46.000 And prevent foreign troops from being used in their state.

01:38:49.000 I agree.

01:38:50.000 I look forward to talking to you again in the future.

01:38:52.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:38:54.000 Take care.

01:38:55.000 There goes the head of the Fort Fairfield Journal.

01:38:58.000 I really appreciate Dave Duchesne.

01:39:00.000 Now, or Duchesne.

01:39:04.000 He told me I can pronounce it either way.

01:39:05.000 The bottom line here is that if they take the pension funds, if they totally implode the dollar, there will be insanity in the streets.

01:39:16.000 They're doing it by design, and they are geared up and trained.

01:39:19.000 And I don't believe a two-star general doesn't know this.

01:39:22.000 Low-level people even know they're preparing for urban warfare takeovers of the U.S.

01:39:26.000 That's been going on for decades. 0.99

01:39:28.000 So he's playing stupid with Dave Duchenne, but it's out there. 0.99

01:39:33.000 Agreements to bring in foreign troops, the governors have no say. 0.99

01:39:35.000 That's the big news here.

01:39:37.000 And that dovetails into all the other things we're dealing with.

01:39:40.000 He joins us about once a month.

01:39:42.000 And I heard him on Derry Brownfield a few days ago.

01:39:43.000 Just excellent information.

01:39:45.000 So well researched.

01:39:46.000 We're really blessed to have somebody like...

01:39:49.000 Steve Shank will come on the show with the J. Michael Stevens Group, who is the longest continually operating storeable food company in the nation, to give us the inside scoop on what's happening with food shortages, laws, the grabbing of the family farms under Animal ID and Premise Society.

01:40:04.000 I mean, it's all happening now, and it dovetails with what we were just talking about.

01:40:09.000 Thanks for coming on, Steve.

01:40:10.000 Hey, glad to be aboard, Alex.

01:40:12.000 You know, it's kind of interesting.

01:40:16.000 these things that you're talking about with troops and everything...

01:40:20.000 We had an interesting news break just recently.

01:40:23.000 There are two ways that countries can use their military.

01:40:27.000 And most people think when it comes down to food and those issues, that what's going to happen, and what has happened in so many countries where they've had starvation and riots, Is that the military goes in and cordons off the storage area for food and protects the food from the people.

01:40:47.000 Egypt has an interesting situation.

01:40:49.000 Their military, in order to forego the riots and things that they'd have to handle, they're putting their army to work baking bread.

01:40:59.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:41:01.000 That makes sense.

01:41:03.000 Well, here's the deal.

01:41:05.000 I've been doing some calculating, and I've been watching what's going on, and just in the last week, Alex, we've had some very interesting things break.

01:41:13.000 In Taiwan, the farmers are guarding their fields 24 hours a day because of the shortage of rice and the theft of rice right straight out of the fields.

01:41:25.000 In Egypt, they're having potential riots, and the army has been put to work baking bread to avoid the riots.

01:41:35.000 Steve, I gotta stop you.

01:41:36.000 You said this on my show like a year ago.

01:41:38.000 How did you know all this was gonna happen?

01:41:42.000 I don't know.

01:41:43.000 I've been sitting at the supply end of the food chain for a long time.

01:41:47.000 We've watched other countries that have had this experience.

01:41:52.000 We've watched the history.

01:41:54.000 We've looked.

01:41:55.000 Basically, we got a lot of Christians out there, and they've been reading the book of Revelations, and we've got the template for this whole thing, including the New World Order's attack on food, right there in the story of Joseph.

01:42:06.000 The fascinating thing is that what most people don't read about that is, you know, the famine was supposed to be seven years.

01:42:15.000 Well, and it was seven years, but in the first year, the people gave up of the famine, the people gave up their money.

01:42:22.000 In the second year they gave up their cattle.

01:42:25.000 In the third year they came and they said, we have nothing left except our land and ourselves.

01:42:33.000 And in the 47th verse it says, I have bought you this day and your land for the Pharaoh. 0.96

01:42:43.000 Believe me, the Christians can read the book of Revelations, but the other side has read it, and they've followed the pattern, and that's where it is. 0.98

01:42:52.000 Now we've got... I figure it this way, Alex.

01:42:56.000 January of 2008 was the last month That the people in this nation had to decide and to choose whether they believed all of the sky is falling information that you and I and many of the other pundits in the subject have given out, whether they believed it and whether they were going to act it or not.

01:43:22.000 Because as of February, the riots all over the world for food have started.

01:43:30.000 We are in the third year of this famine and if you'll notice back in Joseph's time they didn't have to go all seven years before the people were in bondage as a result of their need to have food The fact is that we're in the third year, and the rioting in various countries has started over food.

01:43:52.000 Now, five years ago, there was a statement made by one of the executives in Homeland Security, and this was kind of off the record, a quiet statement that said, we need 400,000 to a million well-trained urban control troops to deal with food rioting.

01:44:15.000 Now let me tell you what's happening right now.

01:44:19.000 It's not something for the future.

01:44:20.000 You see, back in January of this year, Alex, people had still a choice.

01:44:26.000 The vast majority that were kind of snickering and laughing at those of us that were nuts and their friends and neighbors, the few that were putting in food supplies, and they had the choice at that time.

01:44:40.000 To kind of believe it or not believe it and say, well, yeah, it's in the future.

01:44:46.000 Well, there is nothing in the future.

01:44:48.000 Just like I've heard you say that for over a year now, at least in my listening, that it's not any conspiracy theory.

01:44:58.000 It's an agenda.

01:45:00.000 And the fact is that with regard to the food issues, it's not something that's in the future and a theory like it was back in 1999.

01:45:09.000 We have rioting in various nations.

01:45:12.000 We have the bees disappearing.

01:45:14.000 We are sitting in the breadbasket of the world, or what used to be the breadbasket of the world.

01:45:21.000 The nation that in 1959 could feed the entire world five times over is now importing food, contaminated food, from its enemies.

01:45:32.000 But let's take this a little bit further.

01:45:35.000 The rioting is the end result.

01:45:38.000 But let's take something like food that is scarce and let's compare it to other circumstances.

01:45:45.000 Do you realize those farmers guarding their fields is an arch type of what we're going to be dealing with?

01:45:53.000 Do you realize that right now, right this minute, Alex, the people that we have packing the food for us are building a compound in which to store the food that we're encouraging and working and gathering funds to buy ahead so that they can pack it for people to put in their storage.

01:46:14.000 That will have concertina wire around the top of it, and I've made contact with a man who is an extreme expert in security, and those storage areas for the food that we will be packing for the families that call in today, tomorrow, and the next day or until and those storage areas for the food that we will be packing for the families We're storing food under guard, under alarm systems that would make a bank look silly.

01:46:43.000 That's what's going to happen.

01:46:45.000 Well, Steve, I want to stop right there.

01:46:48.000 We do have, on average, food prices up about 30%.

01:46:52.000 We do have many grains more than doubling.

01:46:55.000 And we do have serious, you know, talk of recession, depression, hyperinflation.

01:47:00.000 To me, it's just a good insurance policy, and I've always had storable foods the last 12 years or so, to have high-quality, dried foods, because they store well, last a long time.

01:47:09.000 And I know in third-world countries, they're having some food riots, and this is all Unprecedented, what's going on.

01:47:16.000 And I sure hope you're wrong.

01:47:19.000 I mean, I literally, a year ago, I was kind of like, well, I think it's a good insurance policy.

01:47:23.000 But come on, Steve, food riots.

01:47:25.000 I think we're going to see food prices go up.

01:47:27.000 Now we're seeing the food riots, and now they're talking about shortages here.

01:47:31.000 I don't know if it'll get as bad as places like Egypt.

01:47:34.000 But if we do have a depression, which could happen any time, it will.

01:47:38.000 So I just say, if there's a 10% chance of this happening, we need to be prepared.

01:47:42.000 And unfortunately, There's a 100% chance that food prices are going to go up exponentially and the dollar is going to keep going down.

01:47:48.000 A 30-40% chance we're going to have a depression.

01:47:52.000 The experts are saying 100%.

01:47:54.000 I just want to be conservative.

01:47:54.000 I don't know.

01:47:57.000 But when you get into the GMO food and... But number one, why all over the world is the food running out?

01:48:04.000 Because that's admitted.

01:48:06.000 Well, for the last two years, the last two growing seasons, the planet has not produced as much food as the people on the planet ate.

01:48:14.000 We have a serious water issue all over the world.

01:48:18.000 We have the control of seeds.

01:48:22.000 Farmers used to be able to replant their seeds, and now we have the seed repository where that mother seed is being stored, and the farmers are given only seed that they can plant the next year.

01:48:34.000 And who owns that?

01:48:35.000 The Rothschilds, the Queen of England, the Rockefellers. 0.98

01:48:38.000 They're in the news owning vaults all over the world.

01:48:41.000 They're busy cornering the market on this.

01:48:43.000 Then we have Monsanto in 99 saying they were going to contaminate everything on purpose to make us accept GMO.

01:48:49.000 I mean, this is devilish.

01:48:51.000 Well, that's absolutely true, but let's follow this a little bit.

01:48:57.000 One of the things that happens in any scarce item is as soon as it starts to be scarce,

01:49:03.000 As soon as we realize, well, I've told you before, Alex, that the warehouse that packs the food for the J. Michael Stevens Group that has shipped out the food that you've received and that a whole bunch of listeners have ordered and are presently ordering in large quantities, they were contacted by the three largest grain suppliers in the West

01:49:28.000 Asking if they would sell back to them some grain so that they could fill their schedules.

01:49:35.000 Flour, this coming month, is going to be rationed to bakeries and some of the independent grocery stores by some of the huge distribution organizations in the country.

01:49:49.000 But what happens when you have something go scarce?

01:49:55.000 First of all, the prices go up.

01:49:57.000 We're already there.

01:49:58.000 I mean, the poor people in this country live... One of the reasons that 60% of the population is overweight is that when people run out of money to pay their bills and buy groceries, the only place that they can cut it back is in their groceries, and so they buy cheaper and cheaper food.

01:50:16.000 They buy spaghetti, and they buy rice, they buy They buy noodles, they buy hot ramen, because that will fill their bellies.

01:50:29.000 It makes them fat, and we are the most overfed, undernourished nation in the world.

01:50:34.000 That's right, it's just nothing but sugar.

01:50:36.000 Stay there.

01:50:38.000 You see, half of the Social Security check value has been cut in the last four years.

01:50:44.000 Now, as food prices explode, that's why you get the food riots.

01:50:48.000 Not of lack of food, but that the increase in price.

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01:54:17.000 By the way, we've got guests coming on.

01:54:21.000 Go ahead and get them on, John, in the next few minutes.

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01:54:34.000 Steve Shane, we've only got about 3-4 minutes left here and we really appreciate you coming on.

01:54:38.000 You've been the place I've chosen to get my storable foods in the last decade, really.

01:54:44.000 And I've gotten them four separate times from you, and the quality's excellent.

01:54:48.000 Lasts more than ten years in climate control.

01:54:50.000 Ten years in not climate controlled.

01:54:52.000 Bottom line with inflation, it's an insurance policy.

01:54:55.000 You can and will eat.

01:54:57.000 Even if everything turns out wonderful, which we all hope and pray for, but it doesn't look good.

01:55:03.000 And you've got two-month supplies.

01:55:04.000 Your supplies are very inexpensive.

01:55:07.000 It's a fraction of what the supermarkets cost.

01:55:09.000 Tell folks about some of the packages and finish up that important point you were making.

01:55:14.000 Well, the packages are based on one year, and they're all well-balanced.

01:55:20.000 And the objective is to get as much food into family homes as possible while they can still get it.

01:55:25.000 You see, Alex, we've got a foot race going.

01:55:28.000 You've all heard the old thing about there's a foot race as to whether one event will occur before the other one.

01:55:33.000 The two events are very simple, and they both have the possibility of occurring very soon.

01:55:39.000 One is where a large percentage of the population, food prices will go so high that a large percentage of the population will not be able to afford it.

01:55:50.000 And the other alternative is that the food will disappear and there will be nothing at any price.

01:55:54.000 I wanted to cover just the path that scarce items follow.

01:56:00.000 We have a dependency on food and anytime something becomes scarce, in this case food, You go through several steps.

01:56:07.000 There are basically four of them.

01:56:08.000 The first one is under normal times when people can buy and sell and they can get what they need.

01:56:14.000 The next thing that happens, and this is going on with a vengeance right now, Alex.

01:56:19.000 It's not in the future.

01:56:21.000 When investors realize that the item is scarce, food is scarce, wheat is being bought up by investors right now and being held just like gold is for the time when they can resell it and make huge profits.

01:56:38.000 Other foods are being done the same way.

01:56:41.000 The next step after the investors is when the criminal element concludes that there is really money to be made if they go in and steal it.

01:56:55.000 Bottom line, put in a year's supply of food, two years, three years, four years.

01:57:00.000 What you need to do is get on the internet, if you have access, and call up and dial up efoodsdirect.com.

01:57:09.000 We've got a lot of information, a lot of the archive lectures that we've done, and if you don't have access to the internet, call 800-409-5633.

01:57:22.000 All of this stuff will be put up on the internet, and it is not conjecture.

01:57:27.000 It is exactly the same.

01:57:28.000 No, it's all there.

01:57:29.000 eFoods, eFoodsDirect.com, big banners at the top of InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, and you also have a great show from 6 to 8 o'clock every Sunday night, right after my weekend show that I do from 4 to 6, right here on the GCN Radio Network as well.

01:57:45.000 And that's Fearless Radio and the show's excellent, so be sure and tune into it.

01:57:50.000 That is Sundays from 6 to 8 p.m.

01:57:52.000 Central Standard Time.

01:57:53.000 But give that number out twice, please.

01:57:56.000 It is 800-409-5633.

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01:57:57.000 Steve, thanks for coming on.

01:57:57.000 We appreciate you, Alex.

01:57:59.000 Take care.

01:57:59.000 There goes Steve Schenck.

01:58:00.000 hundred or zero nine five six three three we appreciate you alex steve thanks for coming on figure there goes the shank uh... 0.98

01:58:10.000 yeah you're crazy in the don't protect yourself and hedge your bets uh...

01:58:15.000 but i hope he's wrong about how bad stuff's getting it Looks like he's probably right, but who knows? 0.94

01:58:20.000 Hopefully things will work themselves out.

01:58:22.000 But don't bet on that.

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02:00:08.000 Monday, we've got some medical doctors coming on to talk about how the federal government quietly has been taking DNA.

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02:00:31.000 You can't make this stuff up.

02:00:33.000 Our next guests are so prestigious that if I tried to go over all of their letters it would take 10 hours.

02:00:40.000 But I'm sure you've seen the BBC, I'm sure you've seen NBC, we played some of it in the first of the show.

02:00:45.000 Talking about how the forensic evidence from some of the leading experts in the world is at a big symposium.

02:00:51.000 Proving that Sirhan Sirhan isn't the one that shot RFK when he won the nomination, basically locked it up out in California in 68.

02:00:59.000 Now, remember the coroner in LA said he'd been shot in the back with a different caliber from what Sirhan Sirhan was shooting from the front.

02:01:07.000 And so, this just adds evidence to it.

02:01:10.000 But, right now on the line, we have Phillip Van Praag, and he's got a master's degree in engineering, electrical, And it just goes on and on.

02:01:22.000 I mean, the best way is for Mr. Pragg to give us his credentials, what he thinks most important, and then get into the evidence.

02:01:30.000 And we're still lining up his colleague, Dr. Robert Jolling.

02:01:36.000 Mr. Pragg, please give us your credentials so I don't spend ten hours covering them.

02:01:42.000 Well, you covered part of it, basically.

02:01:44.000 I've been involved in

02:01:46.000 Audio engineering for over 40 years, was a senior instructor at Ampex Corporation, just been involved in many different audio related tasks, and over the last three years have been analyzing the so-called Pruszynski recording, which is the only known recording of the actual shooting that took place there in the kitchen pantry at the Ambassador Hotel.

02:02:18.000 Now, you've analyzed this recording, and you just had a big symposium that garnered national news attention, and a lot of other experts were there as well.

02:02:30.000 And the report I've got is that you separately came up with your findings, and then you talked to your colleague, Dr. Robert Jolling, and that basically your info meshed together.

02:02:42.000 Yes, that's correct.

02:02:44.000 The symposium this week was at the Dr. Henry C. Lee Institute of Forensic Science, which is an adjunct to the University of New Haven.

02:02:53.000 And with regard to Dr. Joling, he and I met each other actually about a year ago, and this was in conjunction with a Discovery Times Channel documentary that was being filmed at that time.

02:03:09.000 And both he and I participated in that.

02:03:13.000 And during that particular program, my first two discoveries related to the analyzing of the Przezinski recording were brought out.

02:03:25.000 And since that time, there's been a third discovery.

02:03:28.000 And that third discovery was announced at the annual international convention of the A.A.F.S.

02:03:35.000 American Academy of Forensic Sciences in Washington, D.C.

02:03:38.000 last month.

02:03:39.000 Now, all of this is separate from this week.

02:03:42.000 At the same time breaking, BBC three-year investigation, four prominent CIA black-op commanders photographed and seen there at the Ambassador.

02:03:52.000 This is really starting to get suspicious.

02:03:56.000 Well, the approach that Dr. Joling and I have taken, and of course there's just the limited amount of time that two people have on this, we've focused our attention.

02:04:07.000 Dr. Joling certainly, with regard to the physical evidence in this case, he's been involved with it literally from the beginning, met with The coroner, chief medical examiner, Dr. Robert Noguchi, as early as February of 69.

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02:04:26.000 We're honored to have you.

02:04:27.000 We're also lining up the Dr. Jolling.

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02:04:33.000 Let us out of this quick break for another 20 minutes with our two guests.

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02:08:05.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:10.000 Well, Philip Van Praagh has worked with Dr. Robert Joling NBC calls them two of the leading experts in the world in their two respective fields.

02:08:27.000 And the guest we have on right now, Philip Van Praagh's involvement in the audio field has spanned 45 years of forensic analysis of magnetic media recordings, including over 35 over those years.

02:08:40.000 The context of his involvement in the field has been embodied both within the professional career and the result of ongoing independent research.

02:08:47.000 And Dr. Joling, since right after the assassination, conferred with the coroner who said he was shot in the back, not from the front, different caliber.

02:08:56.000 So this is an ongoing investigation.

02:08:58.000 Why do you think it's starting to break now, starting to come out, Philip Van Praag?

02:09:03.000 Well, I think there's a couple of factors.

02:09:05.000 First, of course, we're approaching the 40th anniversary of the assassination, and that, I guess, has drawn media attention to it.

02:09:15.000 Secondly, beginning last year with the discoveries that I have made and the first two of those being aired on the Discovery Times Channel documentary, That has also brought some focus on it.

02:09:28.000 And moreover, with the third discovery and its scientific implications, potential scientific implications, that interested additional people and has gotten to the point where now we have lectured a number of times this year on the assassination.

02:09:45.000 Now, when we got cut off by the break, you were talking about the third discovery and Dr. Joling conferring right after the shooting, very soon thereafter, with the coroner in Los Angeles.

02:09:56.000 Right, exactly.

02:09:58.000 As I had mentioned, Dr. Joling has been involved in this case virtually from the beginning and has had the good fortune, partially, of his role as an attorney, a judge, a former president of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, has given him access to a number of people involved in this case.

02:10:18.000 In fact, they sought him out continually over the last 40 years.

02:10:23.000 And it was through those associations and through hundreds and hundreds of personal letters that he received from these people that he put together just a huge file regarding this case but had never really published anything on it and it was the chance meeting that he and I had a year ago about the time that my first two discoveries were breaking that we decided to collaborate and the result was a book An open and shut case.

02:10:54.000 And the website is anopenandshutcase.com and I want to have you both up.

02:10:58.000 I think we've got a time zone mix-up with Dr. Joling in the next few weeks.

02:11:02.000 We'll spend a full hour on this, but in the time we've got, go back to why Dr. Joling at first got in touch with the coroner, what the coroner said, and then move forward into the audio-acoustic evidence because Of course, we have the Congressional 79 hearings that said 95% chance, with some of the top experts of that day, that of course there was more than one shooter and more than three shots fired.

02:11:30.000 And that the Congress said they believed there was a conspiracy.

02:11:36.000 And now we've had E. Howard Hunt on deathbed say that he ran the operation.

02:11:40.000 We have photos from the newspapers of him being arrested as one of the tramps.

02:11:44.000 I mean, it's really starting to pile up.

02:11:46.000 I know you're focusing in on the scientific areas, but I mean, can you comment on the 79 congressional...

02:11:54.000 Go ahead.

02:11:55.000 Well, just going back, first of all, to your first question there regarding the 1969 involvement.

02:12:01.000 It was actually Dr. Noguchi and two or three other very prominent individuals who had been involved from the very beginning who sought out Dr. Joling's expertise and counsel.

02:12:16.000 There certainly were a number of issues that quickly emerged in this case, some of which you've already mentioned, but just very basically the eight-shot capacity of Sirhan's gun versus 14 or more bullet holes that were found in and around the pantry area, a number of which were documented by the FBI.

02:12:34.000 One of their top people, Dr. William Bailey, as a matter of fact, who was there shortly after the shooting, testified over and over and over again that those, in fact, were bullet holes and bullets, irrespective of what others might have said at the time.

02:12:50.000 Secondly, of course, there was Sirhan's position, which was in front of and three feet or more from Robert Kennedy at the time.

02:12:58.000 Of the shooting, and that was, uh, has been verified by the statements of, uh, 12 or more eyewitnesses, people, uh, in the pantry at the time of the shooting who, who viewed the shooting, uh, firsthand.

02:13:11.000 And the reason that's so important, the fact that he was three feet or more away and facing Robert Kennedy, uh, gets back to the autopsy findings.

02:13:19.000 And the autopsy findings being that Kennedy was hit four times from the rear, And there was deeply embedded powder burns on his clothing and on his head and neck, indicating a point-blank range shot.

02:13:36.000 And that was not conjecture.

02:13:37.000 That was verified by a number of firearms experts, as well as Dr. Noguchi.

02:13:44.000 In fact, after the shooting and after the autopsy, the LAPD, I believe, I ran some tests using, I guess, a pig's ear to simulate a human being hit at point-blank range versus other distances, and it was only, I guess, within a half inch of contact that such a deeply embedded powder burn were created.

02:14:10.000 By deeply embedded, it burned deeply into the clothing and skin.

02:14:14.000 Which is 101 in forensics.

02:14:16.000 I know nothing about it, but everybody listening knows the basics of up close.

02:14:22.000 You have the blast coming out, the superheated leftovers of the gunpowder.

02:14:31.000 We have the footage, going back to JFK, of The Secret Service being ordered not to be around the car, and they're waving their arms and throwing fits, and Kennedy drives down and they kill him, and you have this.

02:14:44.000 Fourteen bullet holes, digging the bullets out, his gun only shoots eight.

02:14:47.000 Witnesses say that Sirhan's shooting from the front, he's shot at point-blank range from behind. 0.99

02:14:53.000 I mean, how dumb do these people think we are? 0.97

02:14:55.000 But I guess as a scientist, you just cover the facts. 0.99

02:14:59.000 It's just amazing.

02:15:00.000 Right.

02:15:01.000 We just covered the facts, and my third, just briefly to go through the three discoveries, the first one was, and this is as a result of analyzing the Krasinski recording, which was initially uncovered in 2004, by the way, by Brad Johnson, an American journalist and senior news writer for CNN International.

02:15:01.000 Exactly.

02:15:24.000 Uh, and through my analysis, uh, the first discovery was the presence of at least 13 shot sounds on that recording.

02:15:32.000 Now, it may have been more, because at that point in time, after five seconds of shots going off, uh, the crowd started audibly reacting.

02:15:43.000 There were loud screams and shouts.

02:15:44.000 Pandemonium!

02:15:46.000 It just became impossible to be able to pick any other shot sounds out of that recording.

02:15:52.000 The second discovery was two instances of what I call double shots, and that is two shots that occur so closely together that it raises doubt as to whether it could have been fired by a single weapon.

02:16:05.000 And in fact, last year there was a firearms test Conducted in California with a firearms expert under ideal conditions, shooting the exact same make and model weapon, the Ivor Johnson Cadet 55.

02:16:20.000 Fastest time he could come up with was 366 milliseconds between shots, whereas the double shots on the Przezinski recording, one pair is about 122 milliseconds apart, the other one's about 148, 149 milliseconds apart.

02:16:31.000 The other one's about 148, 149 milliseconds.

02:16:35.000 So twice as fast as the top expert can do.

02:16:38.000 Well, yes, and not only that, but after the second shot, Sirhan's arm, gun arm, was pinned down on a stainless steel steam table in the pantry, although he was able to continue to fire off the rest of the round.

02:16:54.000 And his other, and his, Carl Uecker, the assistant maitre d' with his other arm, had, uh, Sir Hannon a headlock so it's hard to conceive that that is anywhere near ideal condition.

02:17:07.000 But he had a job going there and squeeze off the rounds even though his first shots are up in the air and the others are down at the ground.

02:17:16.000 Now what about witnesses about who was behind Kennedy at the time?

02:17:21.000 Well, of course, immediately behind Senator Kennedy, and slightly to his right, was a security guard named Caesar.

02:17:32.000 In fact, he had hold of Kennedy's right elbow with Caesar's left.

02:17:36.000 And at the time that the shooting occurred, and Cesar claimed afterwards, stated that Kennedy falling over from the shot resulted in Mr. Cesar also falling down.

02:17:51.000 And Cesar also mentioned that he received extensive powder burns, that is, Cesar, in his face and eyes.

02:18:00.000 uh... as a result of the shot when you look at the fact that their handgun was three feet or more away and he was uh... taking pretty much in the direction of that gun versus the evidence from the coroner which indicated that kennedy was shot from the rear at point-blank range uh... one would have to assume that the gun was in a position sideways to the face of mister caesar and Very, very close.

02:18:30.000 And anyone, of course, who's fired a revolver will know that there is a tremendous amount of blast of powder that exits between the rear of the cylinder and the frame of the gun.

02:18:43.000 At the time it's fired off, no one would fire, willingly, fire off a gun with that in front of their face sideways.

02:18:51.000 They would hold the gun out at arm's length so that the back of the gun was facing them.

02:18:56.000 And even then, they would get a little bit of powder burns, probably, or powder at least on their hands.

02:19:02.000 What is the third new info?

02:19:04.000 The third discovery, which was an outgrowth of the first two, was a discovery that although the other shot sounds had very similar frequency content, there were five of the shot sounds there were five of the shot sounds contained an anomaly.

02:19:24.000 And that anomaly was a particular frequency that presented, again, at a particular frequency and at a considerably higher level.

02:19:34.000 So it's clearly two different types of guns going off.

02:19:38.000 We'll be right back.

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02:23:45.000 Philip Van Praag, show author of the book with Dr. Robert Joling.

02:24:03.000 Two of the top forensic scientists in the country.

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02:24:12.000 I mean, it's just so obvious.

02:24:15.000 Fourteen bullets when the gun only holds eight.

02:24:17.000 Now, the last point you were making, Are you saying that even with the ear can hear, but you said you studied the frequency, that it's clearly two different sounds.

02:24:27.000 Like a shotgun's like BOOM!

02:24:29.000 And a certain size handgun with a certain length of muzzle is BOOM!

02:24:35.000 But as a scientist you were able to separate out that it was two different types of guns?

02:24:40.000 Yes, it was actually a very subtle difference and really could not be heard just by the human ear.

02:24:47.000 But through forensic analysis, we noted five of the shot sounds that had this frequency anomaly, and we didn't know what the cause of it was.

02:24:56.000 And other people would say, well, it could be the acoustics in the pantry or something to do with Brzezinski's recorder or whatever.

02:25:03.000 Uh, but then why would it only occur with five of the shots out?

02:25:06.000 So to prove one way or the other and try to determine the source of this, we conducted a firearms test using an Ivor Johnson Cadet 55 Sirhan's weapon and also using an H&R 922.

02:25:19.000 And we found, as a result of doing those tests, we found the same anomaly occurring from the H&R 922 from the rear, which in fact would have been roughly the position of that weapon in the kitchen pantry relative to Brzezinski's microphone.

02:25:35.000 What's interesting about that weapon is two things.

02:25:38.000 First of all, it happens to have the same rifling characteristics as the Ivor Johnson Cadet 55, which is a very important consideration with regard to the firearms panel, the Judge Wenke panel in 75, which found a match between one of the Kennedy victim bullets and a couple of other victims in that kitchen pantry.

02:26:01.000 The second point is that it happened to be the same model weapon that the security guard, St.

02:26:08.000 Eugene Caesar, happened to own at the time of the shooting.

02:26:12.000 Now, after the shooting, I believe Mr. Caesar had first indicated that he had sold that weapon a couple of months prior to the shooting, whereas it was later uncovered that he had sold the weapon.

02:26:24.000 Uh, several months after the shooting.

02:26:27.000 So that was the reason for using that second weapon, and although we did not find the frequency anomaly anywhere, either front or rear, with the Ivor Johnson Cadet 55, we did find it with the H&R 922 from the back of the weapon about 40 feet away, which is about the distance between Brzezinski's microphone and the

02:26:48.000 Firearms at the time of the shooting so basically just drug up a mental patient have him go shoot his gun eight times Have your black op operators shoot Bobby five times and you're off the races and all the witnesses see it and the guy that owns the same gun and nothing matters It's just you just tell the American people that ham sandwich killed Bobby and they believe it meanwhile I guess sir hands still just drooling in prison and 0.76

02:27:14.000 He is still in prison after about 40 years and certainly he should not be completely exonerated.

02:27:23.000 After all, he was there.

02:27:24.000 He did fire his weapon.

02:27:26.000 But we very firmly believe that Sirhan could not and did not kill Robert F. Kennedy, never even hit Robert F. Kennedy in that kitchen pantry.

02:27:37.000 How did the media spin it and cover it up when the coroner The LA coroner said that Sirhan didn't even shoot him and that it was somebody else from behind.

02:27:46.000 I mean, it's just... Well, initially, the Los Angeles Police Department had...

02:27:55.000 For whatever reasons they may have had discredited Dr. Noguchi, but that didn't last.

02:28:04.000 He was, of course, reinstated to his position and there was a great outpouring of support for him by his colleagues.

02:28:13.000 All around the nation, and eventually around the world.

02:28:16.000 And in fact, the autopsy protocol for Robert F. Kennedy is widely considered to be one of the finest autopsy protocols ever written.

02:28:26.000 Well, you know, they say that Budo, over in Pakistan, hit her head on a car window.

02:28:34.000 Of course, there's now video of the machine gunning her, but I guess we should just believe our media, sir, and not believe you.

02:28:43.000 Well, like I say, and as we stated earlier in the program, the media is becoming more involved in this now, and hopefully, as opposed to just simple five-second sound bites, which of course are extremely easy to counter by those who do not have the facts, but rather it's hoped that the media will actually spend some time on this and go in-depth and take the time to learn the evidence.

02:29:09.000 The physical evidence and the forensic evidence behind the finding.

02:29:14.000 Absolutely.

02:29:15.000 Thank you for spending so much time with us.

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02:29:30.000 Thank you for coming on, sir.

02:29:32.000 Okay, thank you.

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02:34:19.000 So we'll get some of his comments on that as well.

02:34:22.000 Mayor Koch, thanks for coming on with us.

02:34:24.000 Just a small correction.

02:34:26.000 I was never governor.

02:34:26.000 I was just mayor.

02:34:28.000 I think you said governor.

02:34:30.000 No, well, if I did, I thought I said... You said mayor and governor.

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02:34:37.000 I was just mayor.

02:34:38.000 You ran for Governor.

02:34:40.000 I ran for Governor, right.

02:34:41.000 I thought I was talking about you were in Congress, but I must have said Governor instead.

02:34:44.000 Right.

02:34:45.000 Okay, um... That's a good tactic when we start the interview, so you can get me off balance here, Mayor Cotts.

02:34:53.000 Well, we're not... I'm teasing you.

02:34:56.000 No, no, no, I'm just teasing you because I watch videos of you online during press conferences and stuff, and I guess everybody needs correcting, because we do get a lot of stuff wrong.

02:35:08.000 Listen, tell us about the new book.

02:35:11.000 Well, I wrote a book, which I'm very proud of.

02:35:14.000 It's my latest and my best, and it's called The Koch Papers, and it is a compilation of the statements that I've made and the commentaries I've issued and the speeches, and really first rate, beginning with my days in Congress up until recently on the issue of anti-Semitism.

02:35:35.000 We're fortunate in the United States This is really the golden age.

02:35:41.000 Of course, there are anti-Semites.

02:35:43.000 The pastor of Obama is an anti-Semite.

02:35:49.000 But the fact is that anti-Semitism is vastly decreased, but rising in Europe to the point where it's close to where it was in the 30s, just before World War II.

02:36:04.000 Well, that's an amazing statement right there.

02:36:08.000 Mayor Koch, I've seen the quotes about the government vetting AIDS or the government shipping in drugs for the black people, but I haven't heard him make any anti-Semitic comments.

02:36:18.000 Can you tell me specifically what Barack Obama's...?

02:36:21.000 Yes, he has... You know, when you attack Israel, you have a right to attack Israel, but if you attack it, Uh, by, uh, when you would not attack another country for doing the same thing, then it's anti-Semitism in my judgment. 0.61

02:36:41.000 So let me give you an illustration.

02:36:44.000 He and others attack Israel because it engages in self-defense against Palestinian terrorism.

02:36:54.000 And he says that the Israeli treats the Palestinians worse than the Nazis treated the Jews. 0.99

02:37:05.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

02:37:07.000 And secondly, what the Israelis are doing is, for example, what the Turks are doing today. 0.99

02:37:12.000 They go into Iraq to go after the terrorists that entered Turkey to kill Turks.

02:37:23.000 And I haven't seen anybody criticize The Turks for doing that.

02:37:28.000 That's the right of self-defense.

02:37:30.000 Well, Mayor Koch, you were in Congress, weren't you, at the same time that Jimmy Carter was in office?

02:37:39.000 I was.

02:37:40.000 And I've seen photos with you meeting with him.

02:37:44.000 I mean, would you call him friends?

02:37:48.000 I mean, are you saying that Jimmy Carter, or would you say Jimmy Carter is anti-Semitic?

02:37:53.000 No, I wouldn't say he was anti-Semitic.

02:37:54.000 I would say he was hostile to Israel, but not anti-Semitic.

02:37:58.000 There is a difference.

02:37:59.000 You can be critical of Israel if you criticize it for the same reasons that you criticize other countries.

02:38:08.000 Jimmy Carter criticizes a lot of countries, but I haven't heard, in this case, Reverend Wright or anybody else criticize Turkey for doing what Israel does, which is defend its people from terrorist attacks.

02:38:25.000 The difference is the Kurds didn't have that area of Turkey, and Israel has been expanding and pushing the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas and demolishing the houses.

02:38:39.000 Let me defend that.

02:38:40.000 Firstly, Israel has agreed to the two-state solution called the Roadmap, which President Bush and others have urged.

02:38:51.000 The Palestinians under Hamas in the West Bank says no, every Jew who entered historic Palestine after 1917 must be expelled and there will be one Muslim state.

02:39:08.000 I think that's a threat to Jews who are now about six million.

02:39:14.000 Mayor Koch, I'm not...

02:39:18.000 Denying that there are a lot of Palestinians, a lot of Arabs that say push all the Jews into the ocean and the rest of the... A majority. 1.00

02:39:24.000 Yeah.

02:39:26.000 A majority in the West Bank.

02:39:28.000 My whole statement is, is that the Arabs were not there killing Jews until 47, 48, when Israel blew up the hotel.

02:39:37.000 That is not true.

02:39:38.000 It happens that in, for example, in the mid-30s, the Arabs killed every Jew in Hebron.

02:39:47.000 In the mid-30s the Jews were living.

02:39:49.000 You may not accept it as such, I don't know, maybe you do, but Jews have lived in the area which was known originally as Judea and Samaria until the Romans destroyed the Jewish kingdoms.

02:40:07.000 They continue to... Oh, I totally agree with you that Sephardic Jews that are 20% of the Jewish family certainly have been there for 3,000 years.

02:40:17.000 Yeah, and you may not accept it as such, but in the Bible it says that God made a pact with the Jews that the area Well, actually, God ordered the Jews to go in and kill everybody, including their animals.

02:40:38.000 Well, he may have, I don't really know that section, but that's not what you or I are talking about.

02:40:45.000 I'm simply saying that from a historical point of view, this is the land of the Jews. 0.75

02:40:52.000 Well, Mayor Koch, I get criticized because I don't go with what's fashionable and just bash Israel all day.

02:41:03.000 I'm really trying to show both sides here.

02:41:06.000 I'll tell you what I don't like.

02:41:08.000 What I don't like is the fact that in Europe, the different governmental organizations, the different lobbying groups, have tried to push to even, you know, ban people's political free speech.

02:41:22.000 Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying about Hitler, I think they have a right. 1.00

02:41:28.000 I think they have a right to say it.

02:41:30.000 Let me explain to you.

02:41:31.000 So do you agree with the First Amendment or not?

02:41:34.000 Of course, in the United States we have the First Amendment.

02:41:37.000 They've never had the First Amendment in Europe.

02:41:39.000 I know, but if you think we should have it here, they should have it there.

02:41:42.000 No, not at all.

02:41:44.000 Each country has its own laws, and in Europe, because of Adolf Hitler, in Germany and France, And in England, they have said that you may not, under penalty of criminal law, say that there was a holocaust.

02:42:07.000 Now, holocaust deniers say, oh, Hitler didn't kill the Jews.

02:42:10.000 But, Mayor Koch, we know what they say, Mayor Koch.

02:42:14.000 And we certainly know Hitler killed a lot of Jews and a lot of other people.

02:42:16.000 I'm not debating that.

02:42:18.000 Yeah, and about 20 million Germans died and he killed about 7 million Poles. 0.54

02:42:23.000 Hitler didn't kill 20 million Germans.

02:42:25.000 20 million Germans died.

02:42:26.000 The Russians. 0.71

02:42:27.000 And we killed 20 million Germans. 0.99

02:42:29.000 So you're not arguing with that 20 million number?

02:42:31.000 Because they were fighting a war.

02:42:35.000 Maricosh, you don't even know where I'm coming from here.

02:42:37.000 Let me just get my point out.

02:42:39.000 Because I really want to hear what you have to say about this.

02:42:41.000 Of course.

02:42:42.000 Okay, I mean, look, both my grandfathers were over there.

02:42:45.000 So believe me, I know about it, okay?

02:42:46.000 They were over there at the same time you were.

02:42:48.000 Okay, so we're on the same team here when it comes to that.

02:42:51.000 My whole point is, I wasn't going to give the numbers, millions of Poles, millions of Russians, millions of Germans, and yes, Hitler did target Jews, that was his whole schtick. 0.64

02:43:00.000 We know that, it was horrible.

02:43:02.000 My whole point is...

02:43:04.000 Is that once you say, and there are groups here trying to restrict free speech in the US, same groups, once you say... Nobody is trying to restrict free speech in the United States, and it's foolish to say that.

02:43:16.000 And let me just... Well, I'll say this, the ADL and everybody else runs over to Europe and supports what they're doing, and they... You see, you're not staying on point.

02:43:26.000 I have said to you, Europe does not have the First Amendment.

02:43:31.000 And they never had it, and they don't want it.

02:43:34.000 So you're saying... They don't want it.

02:43:36.000 You're saying they don't have any free speech.

02:43:38.000 They don't have any free speech.

02:43:39.000 No.

02:43:41.000 A committee is going to decide.

02:43:43.000 A committee is going to decide who has free speech.

02:43:44.000 Not a committee.

02:43:46.000 The fact is that the governments of the countries that I've told you about have decided that it is in their interest Not to allow the resurgence of Neo-Nazism.

02:44:00.000 I understand that, but now they've expanded it, Mayor.

02:44:03.000 Now they've expanded it to don't criticize the EU, don't criticize immigrants flooding in.

02:44:10.000 That's baloney.

02:44:10.000 You want to bet money?

02:44:11.000 I've got all the headlines.

02:44:13.000 They arrest you in England if you say the word homosexual, because they've decided that's not... 0.99

02:44:18.000 You know, you're saying things that are ridiculous. 0.99

02:44:18.000 That's right. 0.99

02:44:22.000 Robin Page, BBC.

02:44:23.000 10,000 bucks.

02:44:24.000 10,000 dollars, Mayor Koch.

02:44:25.000 Right now.

02:44:26.000 Robin, bet me.

02:44:26.000 That's baloney.

02:44:27.000 That's sheer baloney.

02:44:28.000 Bet me.

02:44:29.000 It's what you do.

02:44:30.000 Robin Page was arrested.

02:44:33.000 BBC reporter for saying the word homosexual. 0.86

02:44:35.000 It's ridiculous, and I don't believe it, and it isn't true, and I don't know your particular case, but let me go a little further. 0.99

02:44:43.000 The reason, you know, what you're conveying is, well, so what if they killed 6 million Jews? 0.97

02:44:48.000 They killed 20 million... That's not what I said!

02:44:51.000 What I said is that you shouldn't take people's free speech!

02:44:54.000 That's what Hitler did! 0.88

02:44:55.000 I want to go a little further.

02:44:56.000 I wanted to draw a distinction for you as to why the Holocaust is different In a lot of respects than the killing of any other group, even as terrible as it was.

02:45:11.000 And I will tell you what the difference is.

02:45:13.000 Hitler issued an order called the Final Solution, which said that every Jew in the countries in which Nazism prevailed Would be killed, baby, infant, child, man, woman.

02:45:29.000 No child could be adopted to save the child's life. 0.79

02:45:33.000 No Jew could convert to Christianity. 0.51

02:45:36.000 It was an extermination plan. 0.96

02:45:38.000 Exactly.

02:45:39.000 And that was not what he did with any other people.

02:45:42.000 And that's the difference.

02:45:44.000 Oh, I agree with you earlier that the base of Nazism was to go after the Jews. 0.94

02:45:49.000 I mean, I've read Mein Kampf.

02:45:52.000 I understand what's going on there.

02:45:54.000 Mayor Koch, and I'm not arguing with you, all I'm trying to say is that you're not aware of all the new hate speech laws, even in England, that has no connection?

02:46:08.000 Listen, you're not in England, you're in the United States.

02:46:12.000 The English have a tradition of being very free with speech, but they have decided That they have to put limitations on it.

02:46:26.000 That's their decision.

02:46:27.000 No, that's the government.

02:46:29.000 The British people don't want to join the EU, and the government's forcing it down their throat.

02:46:33.000 Look, look.

02:46:35.000 Look, it is a threat to freedom to have a tax on free speech, Koch.

02:46:41.000 You can't say you support free speech in the U.S.

02:46:43.000 and then go to Europe and be the head of the U.S. 0.97

02:46:47.000 delegation to go over there with that whole agenda off of the people that got killed taking people's free speech today using the dumb Nazis as your poster boy to take other people's free speech. 0.97

02:46:58.000 Now listen, nobody from here is taking anybody's free speech. 0.90

02:47:03.000 Each government in Germany, they decided that if you did not clamp down on neo-Nazism and do that by saying that if you revere Hitler, if you engage in a fascist Nazi salute, you're breaking the German law.

02:47:24.000 You want to change that.

02:47:26.000 Germans are very happy to have that.

02:47:30.000 Well, I know this.

02:47:31.000 BBC and Der Spiegel reported that the Germans, a government since the 60s, has been caught heading up the neo-Nazi groups that they allow to operate and were caught provocateuring firebombing attacks against Turks as a pretext to pass such laws. 0.94

02:47:47.000 That's ridiculous!

02:47:49.000 And that's what is known as the conspiracy theories in the United States. 0.92

02:47:53.000 Mayor Kotz, you know what we're going to do with this interview?

02:47:55.000 We're going to take your statements saying that they didn't arrest Robin Page for... No, no.

02:48:00.000 I don't even know who Robin Page... And we're going to put the articles up where it says that.

02:48:05.000 I don't even know who... I don't even... Please, give me...

02:48:08.000 I don't even know who Robin Page is! 0.98

02:48:12.000 I am simply saying to you, when you say that in England they arrest you for saying the word homosexual, I say that's junk, not true. 0.86

02:48:25.000 No, they say that the police decide if it was meant as condescending because scientific terms now are seen as threatening. 0.76

02:48:33.000 The police don't decide, they arrest, and a court decides whether you engage in hate speech.

02:48:39.000 You didn't know they have police that go to restaurants and sit listening randomly for people using racial terms?

02:48:44.000 Oh, I don't believe that for one minute.

02:48:47.000 You're filled with conspiracy theories.

02:48:50.000 It's really peculiar.

02:48:51.000 Hey, let me guess.

02:48:53.000 The North American Union doesn't exist either, right?

02:48:56.000 Let me ask you something.

02:48:57.000 Do you think it was the Arabs who blew up the World Trade Center, or do you think it was the Jews?

02:49:03.000 Well, that brings me to my next point.

02:49:06.000 Mayor Koch, I'm going to answer your question.

02:49:11.000 I do not believe that the Jews carried out the attack on the World Trade Centers.

02:49:18.000 And I also know that the Pensacola News Journal, the Associated Press, the San Jose Mercury News, and Newsweek all reported that the hijackers were trained at U.S.

02:49:28.000 military bases.

02:49:30.000 That's correct.

02:49:32.000 military.

02:49:32.000 Not U.S.

02:49:33.000 They were private training places.

02:49:37.000 No.

02:49:38.000 Separate from that.

02:49:39.000 That's what it... Listen, I can't... You're so full of misinformation, and if you're pervading this every day, you're polluting the airways.

02:49:48.000 Should I have my free speech taken?

02:49:51.000 You can say whatever you want to!

02:49:51.000 No!

02:49:53.000 Should the Fairness Doctrine be brought back? 1.00

02:49:55.000 I don't believe that.

02:49:55.000 No!

02:49:56.000 I believe you can say whatever you want to.

02:49:58.000 Hey, Mayor Koch, I actually think you're a funny, smart character, and I want to come back and talk about Giuliani, because I don't like him either, and I want to end this on a friendly note, but I'll just say this as we go to break, okay?

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02:50:34.000 So to say that because a minority says Jews did it, the majority of 9-11 truth doesn't say that.

02:50:39.000 So I want to get your take on that.

02:50:41.000 Let me get back on the other side.

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02:54:05.000 Look, I was talking to her in the break, Mayor, and I actually believe there's a global eugenics program, Planned Parenthood, set up by the Rockefellers who funded Hitler. 0.92

02:54:15.000 I know you got questioned by We Are Change a week or so ago, and they brought up Prescott Bush was in the New York Times back in the 40s being the head Nazi agent in the U.S.

02:54:24.000 You said you knew nothing about it.

02:54:25.000 I find it hard to believe that you've lived in New York and New Jersey most of your life and that you didn't know its common knowledge and Ben, the headlines in the BBC, the headlines, London Guardian in the last five years, this has all come back out.

02:54:39.000 Were you aware of all that?

02:54:41.000 Of all the things that you just said about the Nazis and the Rockefellers and the press got pushed?

02:54:48.000 Uh, no.

02:54:49.000 Did you know the Rockefellers were the main funders of Hitler? 0.99

02:54:52.000 They may have been.

02:54:54.000 You know, if I don't know something, I don't argue it.

02:54:57.000 You know about American businessmen like the head of IBM, Thomas Watson?

02:55:00.000 Oh yes, there were!

02:55:02.000 There's no question that there were businessmen all around the world that were funding Adolf Hitler and Father Coughlin here in the United States.

02:55:14.000 Nazis, fascists, no question about that.

02:55:18.000 But, thank God, we beat them. 0.97

02:55:22.000 And what's most interesting about beating them is, without the Russians, we would never have beaten Adolf Hitler. 0.98

02:55:31.000 And they sacrificed 10 million troops, the Russians did, 300,000 in taking Berlin.

02:55:42.000 So I'm shocked and surprised that we don't have a greater partnership with the Russians.

02:55:51.000 Well it might be because Stalin killed conservatively 60 million.

02:55:56.000 I think that's probably a correct figure of his own people, not the Germans.

02:56:02.000 So that's why we don't have a better relationship?

02:56:04.000 No, but Russia is not Stalin.

02:56:07.000 I mean, they're not Democrats.

02:56:08.000 Exactly!

02:56:09.000 And governments, Israel doing bad things, Egypt doing bad things. 0.95

02:56:13.000 You know, that isn't Egyptians are bad, that isn't Jews are bad, it isn't Germans are bad.

02:56:17.000 It's that we get taken, we get bad people in power, we get seduced by evil, and that brings me to my last point.

02:56:22.000 I want to talk a little bit about Giuliani here at the end.

02:56:25.000 But government-sponsored terror.

02:56:27.000 The Gulf of Tonkin has now been admitted to be staged.

02:56:29.000 The Chicago Tribune has now released the NSA tapes that Israel knowingly attacked a U.S.

02:56:34.000 ship, the USS Liberty, to try to blame it on Egypt.

02:56:37.000 The British have been caught staging events. 0.99

02:56:39.000 I mean, all these, every major...

02:56:41.000 Yes, terrible things have happened in the course of history.

02:56:45.000 No question about that.

02:56:45.000 So then why can't, I mean, you don't see any, I mean, why did Giuliani hide all the evidence and run it up in a landfill?

02:56:51.000 No, that's, again, crazy stuff on your part.

02:56:58.000 I'm not a friend of Giuliani's, but he didn't bury evidence in the landfill.

02:57:03.000 What he did was try to run a city that had been devastated by terrorism, and he made a number of mistakes, the prime one being that he didn't require the people working on the site Well, they didn't want to scare people, so they lied to him and said the air was good.

02:57:25.000 That's come out.

02:57:26.000 No, that was not Giuliani.

02:57:27.000 That was Christina Todd Whitman.

02:57:30.000 Exactly.

02:57:31.000 That was Whitman, who said the air was good when it was not.

02:57:35.000 But, you know, as I say, I'm not a friend of Giuliani's.

02:57:39.000 I opposed him in his Mayor Kotz, you think it's a conspiracy that the AP reported that they use the people's bones to fill potholes in New York?

02:57:50.000 Uh, I don't believe that that's true.

02:57:54.000 And I have not seen that AP article, so I have to withhold judgment.

02:57:58.000 You know what, I think you're probably a nice guy.

02:58:00.000 I just don't think you know all the stuff we know.

02:58:04.000 Give out your email real quick, because I want to send you... Okay, if anybody can get on my commentary list, it's one word, E-I Koch, Koch is spelled K-O-C-H, Brian Cave, one word, b-r-y-a-n-c-a-v-e dot com.

02:58:22.000 Okay, Mayor Koch, thank you for joining us.

02:58:24.000 Stay there one moment.

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Alex Jones Show - March 28, 2008

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