Alex Jones Show - 20080401_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:02.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:03.000 You want answers?

00:00:05.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:11.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:15.000 The running scandals.

00:00:34.000 Bush.

00:00:36.000 Number three, Iraq and 9-11 gates. 0.94

00:00:39.000 Former Gitmo detainee Murat Qurnas, repeating in an interview what he had told his attorney three years ago, while still being held by the U.S., that when he was originally picked up and stored in Afghanistan for two months, interrogators hung him by his arms from the ceiling of a freezing aircraft hangar for five days, with doctors coming by periodically to assure his captors it was okay to keep on hanging him there.

00:01:00.000 Qurnas says his interrogators demanded he admit he was an operative of and an associate of Mohammed Atta.

00:01:06.000 The 9-11 plotter.

00:01:08.000 The torture, sadly, is old news.

00:01:10.000 The new news is Karnaz was from Germany.

00:01:13.000 So?

00:01:14.000 Remember the attempt to link 9-11 to Iraq by way of Mohammed Atta and some apocryphal meeting he was supposed to have had with the Iraqi intelligence service in Prague, April 2001?

00:01:23.000 Well, get some German-born Muslim to admit he knew Atta, and you're halfway home to putting Atta at a meeting with Iraqi agents, even if it never happened. 0.77

00:01:33.000 Number two, mortgage gate.

00:01:35.000 Mr. Bush's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Alfonso Jackson, under criminal investigation, has resigned.

00:01:41.000 The top Bush guy on Holmes quits in the middle of a Holmes crisis.

00:01:44.000 As the coroner says to Jack Nicholson in the movie Chinatown, middle of a drought and a water commissioner drowns.

00:01:50.000 Only in L.A.

00:01:51.000 And number one, Mukasey said, what?

00:01:54.000 Gate?

00:01:55.000 Almost ignored in the coverage of his speech to the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco pleading for telecom immunity.

00:02:01.000 Attorney General Michael Mukasey also said, quote, before 9-11, that's the call that we didn't know about.

00:02:06.000 We knew that there has been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan, and we knew that it came to the United States.

00:02:14.000 We didn't know precisely where it went.

00:02:17.000 What?

00:02:18.000 The government knew about some phone call from a safe house in Afghanistan into the U.S.

00:02:23.000 about 9-11, before 9-11, and even though it had the same FISA courts and the same right to act against international targets in 2001 as it does now?

00:02:33.000 You didn't do anything about it?

00:02:36.000 Well, this would seem to leave only two options.

00:02:37.000 Either the Attorney General just admitted that the government for which he works is guilty of malfeasant complicity in the 9-11 attacks, or he's lying.

00:02:45.000 I'm betting on lying.

00:02:47.000 If not, somebody in Congress better put that man under oath right quick.

00:02:52.000 You could send him to Gitmo, I suppose.

00:02:55.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:02:57.000 It is April 1st, 2008.

00:02:58.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:03:03.000 We'll be discussing in more detail the report you just heard Keith Olbermann talking about, quite a revelation.

00:03:08.000 Then in one hour, Mike Rivero joins us for his monthly visit.

00:03:12.000 Then we have the physicist Walter L. Wagner coming on to talk about some of the Different to scientific systems and devices like superconducting super colliders that endanger the very fabric of the dimension that we exist in here in the third dimension.

00:03:34.000 So those are your guests today in the first hour.

00:03:37.000 I'm going to cover a lot of important news and then I'm going to do part one at the bottom of the hour in about 28 minutes.

00:03:44.000 Kind of a precursor to Dr. Wagner joining us coming up later in the third hour concerning the type of developments that do endanger humanity that the elite are completely ignoring.

00:04:00.000 So that is coming up.

00:04:04.000 In about 30 minutes, here is some of the news in front of me today.

00:04:09.000 USA, 2008, the Great Depression.

00:04:12.000 That's the cover of the English daily paper, The Independent.

00:04:17.000 In other news, bread, milk, eggs prices spike massively, draining locals' wallets.

00:04:26.000 U.S.

00:04:27.000 food stamp Issuance is at all time whopping high.

00:04:33.000 China stocks tumble 4.1% to new 11-month low.

00:04:39.000 Retail gasoline prices at record high, $3.29 on average per gallon.

00:04:44.000 Congress has big questions for big oil.

00:04:47.000 UBS writes off $19 billion.

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00:09:29.000 Okay, let's get into the news, and then we have got several big guests lined up for you today, and a big surprise guest, by the way, early in the show tomorrow.

00:09:39.000 I'm just going to let you know that.

00:09:41.000 And also, next Monday, huge announcement, biggest announcement in the history of this radio show, in the history of what I've been doing On Talk Radio, period, coming up next Monday, starting in the second hour of the show, I will make the announcement.

00:10:04.000 USA 2008, the Great Depression.

00:10:08.000 Food stamps are the symbol of poverty in the U.S.

00:10:11.000 In the era of credit crunch, a record 28 million Americans are now relying on them to survive A sure sign the world's richest country faces economic crises.

00:10:24.000 We knew things were bad on Wall Street, but on Main Street it may be worse.

00:10:30.000 Startling official statistics show that as a new economic recession stalks the United States, a record number of Americans will shortly be depending on food stamps just to feed themselves and their families.

00:10:46.000 Dismal projections by the Congressional Budget Office in Washington suggest in the fiscal year starting October 28, 28 million people in the U.S.

00:10:55.000 will be using government food stamps to buy essential groceries, the highest level since the Food Assistance Program was introduced in the 1960s.

00:11:03.000 The increase From $26.5 million in 2007 is due partly to recent efforts to increase public awareness of the program and also to switch from paper coupons to electronic debit cards.

00:11:18.000 But also, above all, it is the pressures being exerted on ordinary Americans by an economy that is suddenly beset by troubles.

00:11:27.000 Housing foreclosures, accelerating job losses, and fast rising prices all add to the squeeze.

00:11:39.000 Meanwhile, this is the Associated Press today.

00:11:41.000 Analyst predicts corn rationing in 2008.

00:11:46.000 A BB&T Capital Markets analyst said Monday, corn rationing may be necessary this year.

00:11:53.000 It's already happening with wheat.

00:11:55.000 Following a U.S. 0.90

00:11:56.000 Department of Agriculture reporting, predicting farmers would plant far fewer acres of corn in 2008.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:12:06.000 Corn's at all-time Hi, the demand is just absolutely stratospheric and let's cut back on what we're growing.

00:12:15.000 According to the March prospective planting reports, farmers intend to plant about 86 million acres of corn this year, down 8% from 2007, when the amount of corn planted was the highest since World War II.

00:12:31.000 That goes on to how the investors are betting.

00:12:37.000 Now remember you don't really see the corn rationing at the store.

00:12:40.000 It's rationing to the factories that make the cereals and make the breads and the thousands of prepared foods that have it as fillers in it.

00:12:51.000 And so you will see it manifested by higher prices and yes sometimes you'll just go in if it's later in the evening and there won't be bread on the shelves or your favorite bread won't be there.

00:13:03.000 I mean, some people are hyping this saying, you know, there'll be absolute food shortages.

00:13:07.000 You won't be able to get food.

00:13:08.000 I don't agree with that.

00:13:09.000 It's just you're going to pay a lot more for food.

00:13:14.000 There's not going to really be any fuel rationing.

00:13:18.000 It's just that it's going to be a lot more to buy your gas.

00:13:20.000 And as the hyperinflation sets in in the next 24 months, increasingly getting worse every month, It's gonna bankrupt a lot of people.

00:13:35.000 I mean, there are a lot of people living hand-to-mouth.

00:13:37.000 A lot of people making eight, nine dollars an hour in this country.

00:13:43.000 Some people make it even less.

00:13:46.000 And you cannot live on that unless you are living in a communal house, 10, 15 to a house, like the illegal aliens are. 1.00

00:13:58.000 And I'm not knocking them and saying they're bad people. 0.83

00:14:01.000 They're desperately fleeing Mexico, incredibly tyrannical.

00:14:05.000 Starvation, riots, tyranny.

00:14:09.000 The richest elite per capita on the planet feeding off the 99% below them.

00:14:14.000 But they do hurt this nation.

00:14:15.000 They come here and they drop down wages.

00:14:17.000 But I'm already digressing.

00:14:19.000 You're going to have the 30-plus million illegal aliens, Mexico in a big recession, pushing more of them up here, driving it down even deeper.

00:14:28.000 Getting all the free health care that the hospitals give.

00:14:33.000 Oh, did you know hospitals from L.A.

00:14:34.000 to Dallas, Texas have been instructed for decades to give free health care to illegal aliens?

00:14:39.000 That's what's bankrupting them, and the schools, and everything else.

00:14:42.000 All of this compounding, and hundreds of unfunded federal mandates on the states, ordering the states to do this, ordering the states to do that.

00:14:54.000 Fifty-something million people On Social Security and that number growing, growing every day.

00:14:59.000 It'll be $60 million by the end of the decade.

00:15:04.000 All of it compacting.

00:15:05.000 That's right.

00:15:06.000 $60 million on Social Security.

00:15:07.000 $10 million more in just two years.

00:15:11.000 And their checks had its value cut in half in the last four years just with the inflation we had before.

00:15:16.000 Now it's accelerating.

00:15:18.000 Now it's deepening.

00:15:21.000 The inflation is getting worse compounded per year.

00:15:25.000 You add that into the equation.

00:15:26.000 You add a world recession that's beginning.

00:15:31.000 Man, I got news stacked to the rafters and I'm not even... I'm looking at article number one here, London Independent.

00:15:38.000 Bread, milk, eggs, prices spiked, draining locals' wallets.

00:15:45.000 China's stocks tumbled 4.1% to new 11-month low, Reuters.

00:15:50.000 China's main stock index tumbled 4.13% to a new 11-month closing low today after a central bank repeated its commitment to tight monetary policy.

00:16:02.000 So we're seeing restrictions in credit.

00:16:05.000 The same thing in Europe, same thing in the U.S.

00:16:07.000 Now let's explain what's happening.

00:16:09.000 The big central banks and the private banks they own are being given unlimited liquidity, unlimited funds over Two hundred billion dollars a month, and we're now eight months into this.

00:16:25.000 It's trillions!

00:16:30.000 And that's just government and sovereign wealth funds pumping that in.

00:16:37.000 The companies are taking the pension funds that were left, that were already fully leveraged, but just taking the scraps, trying to prop things up.

00:16:45.000 Full bailouts of the Fortune 100 banks and brokerage firms.

00:16:52.000 Who'd bought into real companies and have now infected those.

00:16:55.000 Bought into real commodities, holders, bought into manufacturing, bought into military, bought into entertainment, communications, mining.

00:17:10.000 The leveraging is in the billions to one.

00:17:16.000 It's total la-la land. 0.99

00:17:17.000 It's not even real.

00:17:18.000 It's just total fantasy.

00:17:21.000 Unlimited liquidity for all of them, with you, the taxpayer, that's going to fit the bill.

00:17:26.000 Not just paying in taxes to pay it off, but also in the destruction of your dollar.

00:17:32.000 Meanwhile, USM.

00:17:38.000 Ambassador says NAFTA, no matter what, The North American Free Trade Agreement will stand regardless of who wins the coming presidential election.

00:17:48.000 South of the border, the United States Ambassador to Canada said Monday, David Wilkins told a trade group in Canada that NAFTA survival does not depend on whether Democrats or Republicans control the White House.

00:17:59.000 Despite all the political rhetoric, in my opinion, our relationship will remain strong.

00:18:03.000 There will be no major changes, because they own all the candidates, I would add.

00:18:07.000 To our trade policies with our friend Canada, Sid Wilkins.

00:18:10.000 Yeah, the Canadians, the Mexicans, the people in the U.S., none of the people. 0.99

00:18:14.000 I mean, it's 90 plus percent in every poll.

00:18:16.000 Don't like NAFTA.

00:18:18.000 I've seen polls of 99 percent. 0.99

00:18:20.000 And the government just says, shut up!

00:18:22.000 Have you noticed we have armed, military-trained police, civilian? 1.00

00:18:26.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:18:28.000 We're taking your house. 1.00

00:18:29.000 Go to the tent city, scum! 1.00

00:18:33.000 You don't like the destruction of your company? 1.00

00:18:35.000 Of your country? 1.00

00:18:36.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:18:37.000 Just shut up! 1.00

00:18:39.000 Sit down and shut up! 1.00

00:18:41.000 This is gonna hurt! 1.00

00:18:45.000 Just remember, this is your God's police when your grandma's moving in with you.

00:18:49.000 David Wilkins told her, of course she won't let anyone move in, you'll just stick her in a government facility and she'll die of bed sores a few months later. 1.00

00:18:56.000 That's all right.

00:18:57.000 You'll be at the sports bar, flexing your muscles.

00:19:00.000 David Wilkins told a trade group, it doesn't matter what the American people want.

00:19:03.000 Our relationship is so strong and so deep that it's not dependent on which party is in power.

00:19:07.000 Either in Canada or the U.S., our relationship transcends politics.

00:19:11.000 Yeah, the private corporations run us and they've merged us.

00:19:13.000 Go read the SPP documents.

00:19:14.000 The comments come after a debate in Ohio last month where Democratic candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton threatened to withdraw from NAFTA if it wasn't Renegotiated.

00:19:24.000 Now here's the scam.

00:19:25.000 They're going to come in and they're going to say they're going to fix it.

00:19:27.000 They're going to make it worse.

00:19:29.000 They're going to sign even deeper agreements.

00:19:32.000 Just like with banking.

00:19:32.000 Understand?

00:19:36.000 The Federal Reserve designs it.

00:19:38.000 We tell you three years before it happens what they were going to do.

00:19:41.000 They issue liquidity.

00:19:43.000 People know credit.

00:19:44.000 Then they pose as a savior and nationalize the entire economy for them.

00:19:50.000 Well, they're going to fix NAFTA, don't worry.

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00:24:23.000 Yeah, that's how the scam works.

00:24:28.000 They say, oh, the Supreme Court's going to rule you of a Second Amendment, but they have a right to ban all your guns.

00:24:34.000 Oh, oh, they're pro-gun.

00:24:35.000 Here, I'm handing mine in.

00:24:39.000 That's their favorite operation.

00:24:42.000 Mukasey, the corrupt little judge involved in 9-11 cover-ups and His own officers filed complaints, people that guarded him, and he made the federal marshals clean toilets at his house and get his wife's groceries and basically grovel to him. 0.97

00:24:58.000 It just shows the little slime bag he is. 0.93

00:24:59.000 The guy's completely rich and won't even hire his own maid. 0.86

00:25:03.000 He would make the, uh... When the federal marshals would get first class tickets to fly with him, but Mukasey would have to pay for his own, he would make them switch him out with him, which is illegal.

00:25:16.000 Let's just show a little petty dirtbag crook. 1.00

00:25:20.000 Mukasey admits government knew of call about 9-11 before 9-11. 0.66

00:25:25.000 Echelon's spy network would have intercepted and cataloged all transmissions.

00:25:32.000 The guy was speaking before a big group of people and he came out and admitted that Echelon, the NSA, was listening to it.

00:25:41.000 Then he said, oh, but the law didn't let us track it in the US.

00:25:44.000 That's a complete lie.

00:25:46.000 Under the FISA court, they just, after the fact, months later, they have to come and get blanket authorizations.

00:25:56.000 Out of 18,000 plus, they'd refuse less than 10 in decades?

00:25:56.000 And what was the numbers?

00:26:03.000 They basically never refuse them.

00:26:06.000 Less than 10 times out of 18,000 and something?

00:26:11.000 It's not even a warrant.

00:26:13.000 But see, first, they set up decades ago something that Already destroyed the Fourth Amendment.

00:26:23.000 You know, but you go to a judge later. 0.99

00:26:25.000 But that's not... if he gets up and lies, like the public are complete morons, and I guess they are, so... but all of us aren't. 0.99

00:26:35.000 And he gets up... in fact, let me just read the quote. 0.99

00:26:41.000 Quote, we knew that there had been a call from someplace.

00:26:46.000 That was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and that we knew that it came to the United States.

00:26:51.000 We didn't know precisely where it went, reports the San Francisco Chronicle.

00:26:56.000 Mukasey is then reported to have grimaced, swallowed hard, and seemed to tear up as he reflected on the weakness in America's anti-terrorism strategy prior to the 2001 attacks.

00:27:06.000 We've got 3,000 people who Went to work that day and didn't come home to show for that, he said, struggling to maintain his composure.

00:27:17.000 This is the guy that helped cover up how the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the drivers, gave them the detonators for the first World Trade Center attack.

00:27:24.000 This is the guy who helped cover up the insider trading on 9-11.

00:27:27.000 I mean, if we went into how bad Mukasey is, it would take hours, but you can go look it up for yourself.

00:27:37.000 Just absolute, complete, poppycock theater From Mr. McKaysey.

00:27:45.000 And Paul Watson has a big article detailing the history of this today up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:27:51.000 How it's admitted the NSA was watching them all, that Mohammed Adda and others went to the Malaysian terror summit.

00:27:58.000 Mr. Springman, the head of the embassy and others wouldn't let them back in.

00:28:01.000 They were ordered to let them in.

00:28:02.000 They knew where they were staying.

00:28:03.000 The FBI was paying for their houses, their cars, their credit cards in Florida, San Diego, Dallas, Chicago, Minneapolis, St.

00:28:11.000 Paul.

00:28:13.000 They were U.S.

00:28:14.000 government assets, bare minimum.

00:28:16.000 Trained at U.S.

00:28:17.000 bases.

00:28:19.000 That's all admitted.

00:28:20.000 But then New Casey's up.

00:28:22.000 We might have intercepted a call from Afghanistan.

00:28:29.000 But we weren't able to track it because we didn't have the tools.

00:28:32.000 I'm crying.

00:28:37.000 We need to get rid of the Fourth Amendment. 1.00

00:28:41.000 Al-Qaeda's gonna get me. 0.66

00:28:45.000 They were trained at the Pensacola Base and the Defense Language School.

00:28:52.000 And up in Oklahoma.

00:28:55.000 And then the spook, Nick Berg, who later got his head sawed off at a staged event, with white-skinned Anglos chopping his head off at a staged event. 1.00

00:29:12.000 He gave a laptop to one of the lead hijackers in Oklahoma.

00:29:16.000 He was at a training base where the Daily Oklahoma reported, but they just say it's an accident.

00:29:21.000 Al-Qaeda! 0.98

00:29:24.000 Disgusting, Mukasey. 1.00

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00:33:21.000 He clearly covered up, making him an accessory after the fact, to the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, making him an accessory.

00:33:29.000 He clearly covered up many other events and helped frame Patsy's in New York.

00:33:37.000 He's definitely an operative of the criminal crew I want to be clear here that Hollywood, whether it's the Bourne Ultimatum or conspiracy theories put out by Mel Gibson.

00:33:58.000 They always make it that it's a rogue group in government that's doing it, and the rest of the government's good, and the guys on top are good, and they come and they always, you know, defeat the lower-level echelon that's engaged in the crime.

00:34:11.000 The drug dealing, the murder, the torture, the mind control, the child kidnapping.

00:34:15.000 All the things they put in Hollywood now, because it's been in the newspapers.

00:34:20.000 But they always phrase it as if it's a small group doing it.

00:34:22.000 Now, in a way, that's true.

00:34:25.000 It is a small group doing it.

00:34:28.000 But it's not a subgroup.

00:34:30.000 It's the group on the top.

00:34:31.000 It is a compartmentalized group.

00:34:33.000 It is a small group.

00:34:36.000 99% of FBI agents are not involved in narcotics trafficking.

00:34:40.000 Probably 75-80% of CIA's not involved in narcotics trafficking.

00:34:47.000 95% of the CIA's not involved in the sex trade and snuff films and all the things that fit into that.

00:34:54.000 But there is a group that is and it's right at the top.

00:34:59.000 And every time, it's the people at the top running this and they have trusted little cadres that carry out their operations.

00:35:07.000 The problem is that they don't have a big enough army to carry out the 9-11 attacks they'd like to carry out and pose as saviors to run the larger kidnapping ops, to even run the murder for hire.

00:35:24.000 I mean, they just don't have enough hitmen.

00:35:28.000 To go out and do the long knives like they'd like to.

00:35:32.000 Because believe it, the first group they're going to purge is their own people. 0.97

00:35:35.000 That will come and then it will be people like me.

00:35:38.000 Folks think Alex Jones will be in the first wave.

00:35:40.000 Nope.

00:35:42.000 I will be in the second or third wave if they go to full martial law.

00:35:45.000 It will be FBI deputy directors and it will be CIA deputy directors.

00:35:50.000 It'll be anybody that didn't play ball or who wasn't corrupt and totally evil or who was corrupt and evil but made somebody mad And, you know, cheated some underling who's now above them.

00:36:02.000 Or someone who was parallel to them and is now above them.

00:36:09.000 Tyranny, in which I've studied, is not a happy place for really anybody, including the very people at the top.

00:36:17.000 And that's why the elites have been smarter in the past.

00:36:19.000 They were into soft power, which is real power.

00:36:24.000 But the people running things just can't help themselves, and psychopaths always want to get caught, so they always get reckless.

00:36:31.000 And they're getting reckless, they're getting wild.

00:36:33.000 You know, you study most psychopaths, they'll kill one woman every six months, do it very handily, be very careful to do it on quiet roads, to not be seen, to get rid of the evidence.

00:36:43.000 And five years later, they're going crazy, killing three women in one night, running around drunk.

00:36:49.000 And they finally get pulled over by the cops and get caught. 0.95

00:36:51.000 And we've kind of reached that phase of just driving around drunk with dead women in the trunk, the globalists are driving around with women's lipstick on and a red wig, like Ronald McDonald, and I just... God help us, God help us, I mean, we got total psychopaths running everything!

00:37:12.000 You think I'm happy this is going on?

00:37:14.000 You think it's fun to come up here and talk about this and endanger my life every day?

00:37:19.000 I wish this wasn't the case every day.

00:37:21.000 I want to stop them from setting off nukes or releasing bird flu.

00:37:27.000 You know, what has so many of the top futurists and multi-billionaire computer company owners say?

00:37:33.000 They talk about how the elite are suicidal nihilists.

00:37:36.000 We cover this in Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

00:37:40.000 You need to find out what suicidal nihilists are.

00:37:44.000 See, they want to go on willing.

00:37:49.000 And when there's no more willing to their lives, when they can't continue to force their will on something and do something reckless and daring, then they just start killing people en masse and blowing things up. 0.89

00:38:08.000 Oh, I never said the New World Order were cowards. 1.00

00:38:10.000 I never said they were stupid either. 1.00

00:38:11.000 They're just absolutely demon-possessed. 1.00

00:38:15.000 Even if you don't believe in God, there's no other way to describe them.

00:38:17.000 I mean, what do you call this?

00:38:20.000 They're incredibly daring, incredibly smart, incredibly wicked.

00:38:24.000 To even try to grasp their dark intellect is... It makes you believe in God.

00:38:31.000 Because then you realize, when you really study it and really meditate on it, that there's something else to it.

00:38:36.000 There's some other force there.

00:38:39.000 And some would argue, well that's the evil people's group consciousness, you know, working in tandem.

00:38:43.000 The scientific studies show that is real.

00:38:45.000 It's like radio waves are being broadcast by our minds.

00:38:48.000 No one understands it, but it's real.

00:38:51.000 Or you go to the next level and say it is God and the devil.

00:38:55.000 I tend to believe that is the case, but whatever name you put on it, however you conceptualize it, there's something going on here.

00:39:04.000 There's some guiding force.

00:39:08.000 It's almost like a dimension to evil, a bending of the light, a dark genius, a dark logic, a wicked mathematics.

00:39:17.000 Because you start studying the subtleties and the perfection of how their wickedness works in tandem. - Yeah.

00:39:31.000 It's kind of like a fire ant.

00:39:34.000 I went over to my parents' house a couple nights ago and they got a pool and I was swimming.

00:39:38.000 And some fire ants have gotten in the pool.

00:39:40.000 They're actually a water, semi-water amphibious ant from Brazil, but I digress, that came here in the fifties into Houston port in wood, but side issue.

00:39:52.000 And I got a couple of them on me, and then they simultaneously, one stung me on the chest, one stung me on the arm, one stung me on the leg, simultaneously.

00:40:02.000 Of course, that's a pheromone they're releasing, but simultaneously they all stung me.

00:40:06.000 That's how they operate.

00:40:08.000 They're simultaneously staying.

00:40:10.000 So whatever it is, that's how the New World Order works in tandem. 0.58

00:40:13.000 It's like it's a hive entity, a hive mind.

00:40:16.000 Alright, I'm really digressing now, ladies and gentlemen.

00:40:22.000 Let me get into what I promised to spend some time on today, and then we're going to spend a lot of time on this in the third hour.

00:40:31.000 The best way to do this is to first off say this.

00:40:35.000 There is not a finite supply of water.

00:40:37.000 It is renewable.

00:40:41.000 75% of the Earth's surface is saltwater.

00:40:47.000 Another 2% or so is freshwater.

00:40:50.000 Above ground 1%, below ground 1%, but that's what's been discovered.

00:40:54.000 It's probably even more.

00:40:55.000 The Earth's probably more like 80% water on the surface, but Water is renewable if you're living out in the desert or you're living somewhere.

00:41:04.000 Yes, you do have shortages or megacities built in the desert or off the desert like L.A.

00:41:08.000 are going to have problems.

00:41:09.000 But overall, water is totally renewable.

00:41:12.000 And the globalists wrote documents 30 years ago saying they were going to propagandize you that it wasn't, with reasonable things like, you know, don't water during the day, water at night.

00:41:22.000 And then, Only water on Sundays at night.

00:41:27.000 And then, oh, we're going to fine you, and now we're going to arrest you, and see, it's about training you to do what they say.

00:41:34.000 Or England, where it rains about 120 days out of the year, heavily.

00:41:42.000 They are going to make you pay exorbitant prices, and it's all about control.

00:41:49.000 And it's the same thing with diamonds.

00:41:50.000 They are low on the totem pole of semi-precious.

00:41:53.000 They're not even high on the scale of precious. 1.00

00:41:55.000 They're junk. 0.99

00:41:58.000 The problem is they're geographically isolated. 0.99

00:42:01.000 Arkansas, Furea is a Canada, Brazil, Africa, Australia, and one family owns and controls over 90% of it.

00:42:14.000 But they created scarcity there, and they tell you diamonds are scarce, you'll believe it.

00:42:18.000 And they tell you water is scarce, you'll believe it.

00:42:21.000 And they can control you.

00:42:24.000 But my point is, they're saying water is a big crisis, but that's what threatens us is the water.

00:42:28.000 Or they say carbon dioxide, one of the basic two building blocks of all life on earth.

00:42:35.000 That in previous times in our history has been 14 times higher.

00:42:39.000 Scientists believe an optimum from studies they've done in controlled environments.

00:42:43.000 These have been done over the last 200 years.

00:42:46.000 One of the most studied things out there in agriculture.

00:42:50.000 Is that you can have ten times the level of carbon dioxide and it just makes plants live longer, grow better, it creates more oxygen, humans, all forms of animal life like higher oxygen, the earth is actually in an oxygen and carbon dioxide starved mode.

00:43:09.000 One of the lowest ever recorded, they've got eye scores going back five hundred thousand years by the way, one of the lowest ever recorded oxygen slash Carbon dioxide levels, and they've got people running in fear, hyperventilating, I mean just freaking out over carbon dioxide.

00:43:28.000 That it's going to heat us up, it's going to kill us, it's all over.

00:43:32.000 And even if you believe all of that, put out by the New World Order to set up new systems to micromanage and control you and tax you and tax all human activity and life, carbon footprint, Even if you believe the fraud, there's solutions of putting restrictions on Europe and the U.S.

00:43:48.000 only.

00:43:49.000 No restrictions on China, India, and 160 other countries.

00:43:52.000 It will actually move it from cleaner societies to the ones with no controls, and will actually boost it, and there's major studies on that.

00:43:59.000 So there, the whole debate's over.

00:44:00.000 My point is, you're freaking out over that.

00:44:05.000 Meanwhile, I've talked a lot about this, but we're going to do whole shows on this.

00:44:09.000 There are thousands of factories randomly splicing DNA of pigs and monkeys and humans and insects and plants and insects and 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 100, 200 different cross-species injections with DNA guns that fire it into the bacteria.

00:44:29.000 And fire viruses in, and it's already given rise to super-viruses, and it's already given rise to super-bacteria, and there's already been all sorts of releases, and crises, and problems, and cover-ups, and murders of hundreds and hundreds of microbiologists.

00:44:43.000 And the very DNA of the planet, the true biosphere, is being altered in a way it's never been in its slow development in the past.

00:44:56.000 And any day, this can release a super virus that kills 20%, 100%, who knows?

00:45:02.000 I mean, there are governments working on mousepox that kill 100% of mammals that come in contact with it. 0.52

00:45:07.000 And that's being done in Level 2 labs in Australia, the US, England, and God knows where, and the University there, what, six years ago, in Australia, put the exact genetic code and how to engineer a mouse pox for any mammal that has one hundred percent kill rate.

00:45:28.000 And the government accidentally, I'm joking when I say that, but they say accidentally put out the code for that.

00:45:38.000 Exactly how to do it.

00:45:41.000 Very easily.

00:45:43.000 Now you begin to realize what we face while you run around Jibbering about carbon dioxide, okay?

00:45:52.000 Now, let me move on to something else here.

00:45:55.000 This is the New York Times.

00:45:56.000 I've been talking about this since Sunday.

00:45:57.000 We have a guest on in the third hour on the subject.

00:45:59.000 Asking a judge to save the world, and maybe a whole lot more.

00:46:04.000 More fighting in Iraq.

00:46:05.000 Somalian chaos. 0.99

00:46:06.000 People in this country can't afford their mortgages.

00:46:08.000 And in some places now, they can't even afford rice.

00:46:13.000 None of this, nor the rest of the grimness on the front page today will matter a bit, though, if the two men... Now, this is... They act like it's two men in this article.

00:46:22.000 It's the former head and a physicist of the Royal Society of England, the most prestigious scientific body in the world.

00:46:30.000 It's a new scientist's scientist.

00:46:32.000 It's hundreds of prominent physicists.

00:46:38.000 But see how they minimize that there?

00:46:42.000 None of this will matter a bit, though, if two men pursuing a lawsuit in federal court in Hawaii turn out to be right.

00:46:49.000 They think a giant particle accelerator that will begin smashing protons together outside Geneva this summer might produce a black hole or something else that might spell the end of the earth and maybe the universe.

00:46:59.000 Now, it was the same physicist and a bunch of other physicists that theorized that superconducting supercolliders would produce limited black holes that they hoped would decay And in most cases, they believe in the equations will decay and fall apart before they get enough energy to go to mass and begin sucking the earth in.

00:47:19.000 You see, you split an atom, they start reacting in the uranium or plutonium, and then they start violently expanding, you have an explosion.

00:47:34.000 That's 1900 technology, Max Planck and others.

00:47:39.000 They theoretized their equations, laid it out, Einstein added to it, popularized it, but it was Planck and others, the German scientists, that are admitted to be the ones that developed it, and then in the forties they made A-bombs with it.

00:47:52.000 1945 was how many years ago?

00:47:56.000 Sixty plus?

00:47:58.000 A-bombs?

00:47:59.000 Okay.

00:47:59.000 So see, this is the opposite.

00:48:01.000 This is a bomb that sucks everything into it and explodes inward.

00:48:08.000 Much smaller than the head of a pen, when it sucked in the entire solar system.

00:48:18.000 Understand?

00:48:19.000 See, it's 2008.

00:48:20.000 This isn't 1945 with an A-bomb.

00:48:25.000 This is black holes, ladies and gentlemen.

00:48:27.000 And guess what?

00:48:28.000 Now they've made black holes.

00:48:30.000 See, first they were worried about it, and the equation showed it would happen, and then Hawking came out, a physicist, Who they've kind of popularized, and he is a smart guy, but he's admitted he's been wrong a few times, but he was right about this.

00:48:42.000 He said, well don't worry, when they make black holes in these, they're gonna fall apart.

00:48:45.000 They're gonna decay.

00:48:47.000 Most of the time.

00:48:50.000 And they do decay.

00:48:52.000 But the equations show that there's gonna be, that there is a chance, a good chance, that they will not decay.

00:48:58.000 That they'll get going.

00:48:59.000 It's kind of like when you're starting a fire.

00:49:01.000 Then it'll catch fire.

00:49:04.000 And then no more acting cool?

00:49:05.000 No more Illuminati ceremonies?

00:49:09.000 No more fun?

00:49:11.000 No more acting tough?

00:49:13.000 No more parading around with your FBI badges?

00:49:17.000 No more wearing hippie sandals and running around taking people's ranches and farms for the earth?

00:49:24.000 This will put a... put a kibosh on your party real fast, okay?

00:49:31.000 Let's see, the New World Order wants to play God and they always, they always do it! 0.79

00:49:42.000 Close to half the scientists thought that when they detonated over a hundred hydrogen bombs in the atmospheres, in the atmosphere, in the early 1960s, in the U.S., that it was a chance it would set the atmosphere on fire.

00:50:00.000 It didn't set the atmosphere on fire, but it did, with EMP, blow out transistors all over the planet randomly.

00:50:13.000 They thought when they detonated the A-bomb, half the scientists thought it was going to set the atmosphere on fire, because our equation is showing it could. 0.94

00:50:25.000 But instead, it's kind of like when they blow up an oil rig that's on fire, you use a bomb to blow it out, that's what happens.

00:50:33.000 So see, they go ahead even when they think it's going to do this.

00:50:36.000 Well, we're going to get more into this on the other side.

00:50:39.000 This is just one, black holes are only one small facet of all the things that the math shows are probably going to happen.

00:50:49.000 But we've got to ban carbon dioxide because plants breathe it, it's very evil.

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00:53:40.000 That's their aphrodisiac.

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00:53:54.000 I was sitting in traffic listening to the radio. .

00:54:10.000 George Strait was singing, seashores of old Mexico.

00:54:15.000 It sounded so good, I got an idea.

00:54:21.000 I'm gonna go there since they're all over here.

00:54:25.000 The long star state should be renamed Texaco.

00:54:30.000 We're back live, ladies and gentlemen.

00:54:32.000 So long, Texas.

00:54:34.000 Hello, Mexico.

00:54:39.000 I'm gonna swim the Rio Grande at El Paso.

00:54:44.000 No, you're not if they shut off one of these black holes.

00:54:48.000 I'm leaving tonight.

00:54:49.000 I ain't gonna pack.

00:54:51.000 I'm only taking the clothes on my back.

00:54:55.000 Let me continue reading this New York Times article.

00:54:58.000 Hello, Mexico.

00:54:59.000 The world physicists have spent 14 years and $8 billion building the large hardened collider in Europe in which the collider protons will create energies and conditions.

00:55:15.000 Last seen a trillionth of a second after the Big Bang.

00:55:21.000 Oh, the Big Bang!

00:55:22.000 Your equations show a Big Bang!

00:55:24.000 Let's recreate those conditions.

00:55:26.000 That's very smart.

00:55:28.000 Researchers will sift the debris from the primordial reactions for clues to the nature of mass and new forces and symmetries of nature.

00:55:41.000 But Walter L. Wagner, and don't even mention their physicist in this article, and Louis Sancho contend that scientists at the European Center for Nuclear Research Or C.E.R.N.

00:55:52.000 have played down the chances that a collider could produce, among other horrors, a tiny black hole, which they say could eat the Earth.

00:56:00.000 Now, they said this decades ago, and now they've created black holes in these, but they fall apart.

00:56:06.000 They don't get the mass they need to start going.

00:56:12.000 Or it could spit out something called a strangelet that would convert our planet into a shrunken, dense, dead lump Something called strange matter.

00:56:24.000 Kind of like the core of the dead sun.

00:56:26.000 A black dwarf, brown dwarf.

00:56:28.000 Their suit also says the CERN, or the Super Cadetic Super Collider, has failed to provide an environmental impact statement as required under the National Environmental Policy Act.

00:56:40.000 Although it sounds bizarre, the case touches on a serious issue that has bothered scholars and scientists in recent years, namely, how to estimate the risk of new groundbreaking experiments, and who gets to decide whether or not to go ahead.

00:56:55.000 The lawsuit filed March 21st in Federal District Court in Honolulu, seeks a temporary restraining order prohibiting the superconducting supercollider, or the Large Hardened Collider, from proceeding with accelerator Until it has produced a very detailed safety report and an environmental assessment.

00:57:16.000 It names the Federal Department of Energy, the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, the National Science Foundation Federation, and the CERN as defendants.

00:57:24.000 Yeah, our government basically paid for this in Europe.

00:57:27.000 As usual.

00:57:29.000 They were building it in Texas.

00:57:31.000 Now they've turned it into an underground anti-terror facility.

00:57:35.000 Up in Wong, Sahatchie. 0.58

00:57:39.000 Northa here, up by David J. Smith Church, Newswatch Magazine.

00:57:46.000 Look, the whole point here, well, there's several points.

00:57:48.000 Number one, I went and found new scientists.

00:57:52.000 I went and found major physics organizations and societies.

00:57:56.000 I went and found the heads of major societies across the board, quantum mechanics engineers, saying, physicists saying, yeah, there is a chance That this could really cause a problem.

00:58:10.000 We know we're dealing with incredibly explosive forces here.

00:58:15.000 A hundred plus years ago, they came up with A-bomb equations. 0.71

00:58:21.000 Did you know in 1916, H.G.

00:58:24.000 Wells wrote a book where they had atomic bombs?

00:58:29.000 You see?

00:58:30.000 It's 2008.

00:58:31.000 I didn't even get into the Air Force's antimatter weapons.

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01:00:13.000 Mike Rovero for his monthly visit with us, talking about the drums of war with Iran, the economy, Mukasey and his 9-11 stumble.

01:00:23.000 Very suspicious, that's coming up.

01:00:26.000 Finishing up with the subject I was just now getting into out of the New York Times, asking a judge to save the world, where they get into superconducting, super colliders, and different types of systems that are similar.

01:00:41.000 Where a lot of the equations being put out by top physicists are showing that it could have very, very dangerous results.

01:00:49.000 Very implosive results.

01:00:52.000 A black hole would be implosive.

01:00:55.000 Instead of an atomic or hydrogen explosion, you would have an implosion, a sucking in, and then as it gets more mass, dragging more into it.

01:01:04.000 If a black hole ever gets purchased, that is, gets a toehold in one of these reactors, and they've already made quite a few, You won't feel anything.

01:01:12.000 It will suck the earth up in less than a second.

01:01:17.000 And it will reach the sun in just a few minutes.

01:01:22.000 And the rest is history.

01:01:25.000 What is it?

01:01:25.000 Seven minutes and change to the sun?

01:01:30.000 So.

01:01:33.000 Just wanted to let you know that.

01:01:37.000 But again, this doesn't matter.

01:01:39.000 Let's go ahead and have random genetic engineering which could cause massive problems, wipe out whole sets of life forms, already doing it in the lab. 0.93

01:01:49.000 Let's just ignore all that.

01:01:50.000 Let's ignore the engineers that brought you A-bombs and hydrogen bombs 60-something years later, doing things billions of times more dangerous conservatively.

01:02:04.000 New York Times?

01:02:08.000 Talking about how it could destroy the entire solar system.

01:02:13.000 And then I thought I'd dig out some older articles.

01:02:15.000 The Air Force gave a briefing about antimatter bombs and then reclassified it back in 2004.

01:02:22.000 Air Force pursuing antimatter weapons.

01:02:28.000 Program was touted publicly, then came official gag order.

01:02:32.000 These would set off a chain reaction that would explode the Earth in less than a second.

01:02:37.000 The U.S.

01:02:37.000 Air Force is quietly spending millions of dollars investigating ways to use a radical power source, antimatter, the eerie mirror of ordinary matter in future weapons.

01:02:51.000 And they have isolated antimatter.

01:02:52.000 They have created artificial suns.

01:02:54.000 They've done it all 20, 30 years ago that we know of.

01:02:56.000 Can you imagine what they've got underground?

01:02:59.000 These nuts are doing this every day. 1.00

01:03:01.000 The admitted Colliders are doing this on a daily basis around the world. 1.00

01:03:07.000 In Japan, in Europe, in Russia, in the U.S.

01:03:12.000 But, I mean, take Austin, Texas.

01:03:14.000 There's an experimental nuclear reactor in North Austin.

01:03:18.000 They're not doing anything that dangerous compared to black holes and antimatter, but they're doing a lot of secretive stuff over there.

01:03:25.000 And you tell the average person on the street, we've got a reactor in Austin, they'll tell you, no we don't.

01:03:30.000 Austin's a liberal town. 0.99

01:03:33.000 And you're a liar. 0.96

01:03:36.000 You can type nuclear reactor Austin, Texas into Google and you'll be there and it's the J.J. 0.99

01:03:41.000 Pickle Research Center, a gigantic facility in North Austin guarded by men with machine guns.

01:03:46.000 Doesn't exist, though!

01:03:48.000 You tell these yuppies, I mean, they're all about, oh, you said there was a reactor in Austin.

01:03:52.000 An experimental one.

01:03:53.000 Oh, nope, doesn't exist. 1.00

01:03:54.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:03:55.000 Okay, fine, doesn't exist. 1.00

01:03:57.000 Just had your way, didn't you?

01:03:59.000 You won again, thanks to overwhelming delusional power. 0.98

01:04:03.000 Invincible ignorance.

01:04:05.000 We've even gotten mean phone calls before. 0.57

01:04:11.000 You shouldn't talk about how there's a reactor!

01:04:13.000 Terrorists might go after it!

01:04:15.000 You mean in the government?

01:04:16.000 No, the terrorists run the reactor.

01:04:20.000 It's one reason to move out of Austin.

01:04:21.000 I'm strongly considering moving like 80 miles outside this town.

01:04:26.000 Then they'd call it a compound, though.

01:04:31.000 Oh, man.

01:04:32.000 So, uh, yeah, let's, uh, ban humans exhaling carbon dioxide.

01:04:37.000 They're classifying it as a deadly toxic waste globally.

01:04:41.000 Carbon dioxide, it's evil, let's ban it. 0.70

01:04:44.000 Plants breathe it, humans exhale it.

01:04:47.000 And then let's just not worry about all this other serious stuff.

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01:08:46.000 Mike Rivero runs the wonderful website, been around since the mid-1990s.

01:08:49.000 One of the first big sites to expose the Vince Foster murder.

01:08:53.000 Then he was called a right-wing extremist, then exposing George Bush as a puppet.

01:08:58.000 He's called a leftist.

01:09:00.000 No, we're just Americans who don't like corruption.

01:09:03.000 Now, we've got a lot of war drums, a lot of circling Iran, a lot of mashing trips, trying to... Al-Sadr for... Well, he had a ceasefire a year and a half ago, then it broke another for six months.

01:09:14.000 He never starts it.

01:09:15.000 The Shiites. 0.98

01:09:17.000 They're always trying to then come in and sneak attack him.

01:09:22.000 Some say it was a prelude to go into Uh, Iran.

01:09:27.000 We'll talk about the war, we'll talk about the economy, we'll talk about the domestic police state, Mukasey, stumbling and saying they had NSA transmissions but that they couldn't follow them.

01:09:37.000 In fact, cue up that, uh, John, cue up that, to the third part, that last minute, uh, with the Countdown host, Keith Uberman, where he's laying it out saying somebody needs to basically Well, it's a lot of stuff happening right now.

01:09:57.000 The economy certainly remains a very large part of the story.

01:09:59.000 I haven't talked to Mike yet, so I'll just ask him on air.

01:10:01.000 Mike Rivera, what do you think of those subjects I just threw out we should get into first, or is there some other subject you want to cover first?

01:10:08.000 Well, there's a lot of stuff happening right now.

01:10:10.000 The economy certainly remains a very large part of the story.

01:10:14.000 The al-Satr situation this last week I think is worth noting because, as you point out, he did not start this escalation.

01:10:22.000 It came from Maliki.

01:10:24.000 Now we have the U.S.

01:10:24.000 government attempting to distance itself and saying, well, Maliki acted on his own and we didn't encourage him or authorize him to do that, which kind of reveals that the U.S.

01:10:34.000 does still see itself as kind of running the place with any pretensions of democracy for Iraq notwithstanding.

01:10:41.000 But you're absolutely right.

01:10:42.000 This latest statement that the U.S.

01:10:44.000 government was intercepting phone calls related to 9-11 before it actually happened, again, it's just more fodder for those who realize that there's something very funny about that official story.

01:10:58.000 Let's get into McCasey first, then.

01:11:00.000 Here is a little piece of what Keith Olbermann said last night.

01:11:05.000 And number one, Mukasey said, what?

01:11:07.000 Gate?

01:11:08.000 Almost ignored in the coverage of his speech to the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco pleading for telecom immunity.

01:11:14.000 Attorney General Michael Mukasey also said, quote, before 9-11, that's the call that we didn't know about.

01:11:20.000 We knew that there has been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan, and we knew that it came to the United States.

01:11:27.000 We didn't know precisely where it went.

01:11:30.000 What?

01:11:31.000 The government knew about some phone call from a safe house in Afghanistan into the U.S.

01:11:36.000 about 9-11, before 9-11, and even though it had the same FISA courts and the same right to act against international targets in 2001 as it does now?

01:11:47.000 You didn't do anything about it?

01:11:49.000 Well, this would seem to leave only two options.

01:11:51.000 Either the Attorney General just admitted that the government for which he works is guilty of malfeasant complicity in the 9-11 attacks, or he's lying.

01:11:59.000 I'm betting on lying.

01:12:01.000 If not, somebody in Congress better put that man under oath right quick.

01:12:05.000 You could send him to Gitmo, I suppose.

01:12:09.000 Mike Rovero comments on that.

01:12:11.000 It's getting more and more bold.

01:12:13.000 Uh, yeah it is, and I would favor the Gitmo option here because unfortunately a lot of these guys, when you get them under oath, they're still gonna lie anyway.

01:12:21.000 And the bottom line is, when you get to the core issues of 9-11, regardless of what the ultimate truth really is, the fact is, the existence of lies and cover-up and deceptions delegitimizes the entire country.

01:12:34.000 And it's a scandal which nobody is going to allow out.

01:12:37.000 So I don't even think hearings under oath are going to do anything.

01:12:41.000 It's just more an attempt to obfuscate the situation.

01:12:44.000 I think the bottom line is, we the people know we were lied to about 9-11.

01:12:47.000 We accept that.

01:12:50.000 You know, we've got to stop arguing over the minutiae and looking for more proof of what we already know to be true.

01:12:55.000 And we have to face up to what are we going to do with a government that we have caught lying to us time and time again.

01:13:01.000 Not just about 9-11, but about Iraq, about Al-Qaeda, about all these things.

01:13:05.000 We have a government that lies to us with every single breath.

01:13:08.000 It takes.

01:13:09.000 We have to do something about that.

01:13:11.000 I need to dig it out, but there's a new New York Times poll where more than half of New Yorkers do believe it's an inside job now.

01:13:17.000 I mean, not just that they're being lied to, but that it's an inside job.

01:13:20.000 And of course, we had the poll two years ago where 36% of Americans believe inside job, 60-something believe they're being lied to.

01:13:27.000 I mean, the establishment has to know we've beaten them in the info war.

01:13:31.000 We have the truth.

01:13:31.000 They lied.

01:13:32.000 The people know they're killers now.

01:13:35.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:13:36.000 You know, and it was easy for us to beat the mainstream media because we do have the truth on our side and the people want the truth.

01:13:42.000 Ultimately, there's another statistic that came out this last week.

01:13:45.000 Newspaper advertising revenues are at a 50-year low.

01:13:49.000 People are not reading the newspapers anymore because the newspapers are full of advertising for white sales and government lies and deceptions and people just don't want to bother with that anymore. 0.93

01:14:00.000 Well, here's another example.

01:14:02.000 I mean, I put an ad in the paper last year And I paid like $350 for a tiny ad, maybe an inch and a half long, inch wide, and I got I think three phone calls and they were worthless.

01:14:17.000 And then I put one in Craigslist for free and got like $300 plus.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:14:22.000 The Internet is now the high ground in the war for the minds of America.

01:14:26.000 And there's a story I just put up on What Really Happened This Morning, where the government admits it is going out, it's trying to find bloggers that they can hire or bribe, or out of some misguided idea of patriotism, convince them to put out the government's version of story on their blogs.

01:14:44.000 Uh, in order to try and get ahead of the ball on the internet and get back control of the public dialogue.

01:14:50.000 That's not gonna work, but I mean, as long as they waste time on things that won't work, that's wonderful. 0.95

01:14:55.000 I mean, CENTCOM admitted two years ago they have thousands of troops at their desk, and they're the ones, they're so dumb, they even use their own handles. 0.99

01:15:03.000 And then you go find their MySpace, and there they are, and they'll openly say, I'm in the military, I can't wait to kill you. 0.99

01:15:09.000 But they're the house slave, kind of, because the majority of troops support Ron Paul, support Liberty, it's only the little house slaves that actually sit in the propaganda belly who were selected because they were weak-minded to begin with, and so the enemy's personnel is so stupid, because you've got to be stupid to serve them, that their propaganda is so ham-fisted that it's showing everyone... 0.99

01:15:33.000 Wonderful, Mike! 0.98

01:15:34.000 Yeah, I agree because, you know, once the public becomes aware that these games are being played, it becomes very obvious when they see it.

01:15:42.000 You know, the reason, and I've been saying this all along, one of the worst problems that the government faces is they've never really conceptually gotten a handle on the Internet and alternative media, and they're still trying to play the propaganda game by the rules that worked at the height of the Cold War in the 1950s and the 1960s.

01:15:59.000 Back when media was all one way, where the government says, the TV and radio broadcast, and the public accepts, and there was no feedback.

01:16:07.000 But in the age of the internet, the whole dynamic of information flow has changed, and the government has never quite gotten a handle on that.

01:16:16.000 And that's why these Cold War era propaganda tricks they're trying to play now, Not only don't work, they call attention to themselves.

01:16:22.000 And this is the reason you have these polls, where the New Yorkers, half of them believe 9-11 was an inside job.

01:16:28.000 And that number's going to keep on going up.

01:16:30.000 Because, you know, the facts are obvious when you look at them objectively.

01:16:37.000 I want to get into the war in detail.

01:16:39.000 Back in New McKenzie, I want to talk to you about that article you just reported on.

01:16:42.000 Another admission of them engaging in covert propaganda, and now overt propaganda.

01:16:47.000 And we talk about a collapse, a Soviet Union-style collapse.

01:16:51.000 I agree that's going to happen, but I don't see them going quietly into the night.

01:16:54.000 They're gonna go wild and shut off a nuke or release bird flu or something crazy.

01:17:01.000 I would tend to agree with that, yeah.

01:17:03.000 They're cornered now, and cornered animals are always the most, most dangerous.

01:17:08.000 And we've got a bunch of leaders who realize that they're looking at war crimes trials.

01:17:12.000 They're trying to play every card they've got.

01:17:14.000 They're trying to go back into threat of terror.

01:17:18.000 They're trying to pull the God Gambit.

01:17:21.000 God has told us to go do this, and if you oppose us, you're standing up against God.

01:17:25.000 And it's just, they're playing every card.

01:17:27.000 What about the White Al Qaeda? 0.79

01:17:28.000 I mean, four months ago, the British Intel and then the Fox put out this vague thing about 1,500 White Al Qaeda's.

01:17:37.000 They're everywhere, they're going to kill you, and then at the end said, this isn't a confirmed report. 0.85

01:17:41.000 Just totally made up on its face, and now, That little demonic, he just radiates weakness. 0.87

01:17:48.000 That's what I call a chicken neck, I'm sorry. 0.98

01:17:52.000 Hayden, the guy that heads up the CIA, did head up the NSA, and now he says white Al Qaeda is everywhere and is going to kill us. 1.00

01:17:58.000 I mean, this is really getting stupid. 0.96

01:18:01.000 Well, what they're attempting to do is to justify the surveillance on ordinary Americans because people are starting to stand up to all the surveillance and the spying and the wiretapping and the emails and saying, why are you watching us? 0.99

01:18:12.000 We're not the enemy, but you're treating us like the enemy.

01:18:15.000 The enemy is over there, and if you believe the propaganda, it's the Arab Muslims. 1.00

01:18:20.000 But it's over there.

01:18:21.000 Why are you looking at us?

01:18:22.000 So now they're trying to create this idea, well, there are Al-Qaeda in America, and they look just like you, and that's why we've got to look at all of you.

01:18:29.000 And it's just another way of attempting to sell this idea that we should submit to constant scanning, constant surveillance.

01:18:35.000 But it's a comic book!

01:18:36.000 I mean, this is like a bad comic book.

01:18:39.000 It's so transparent.

01:18:41.000 It really, really is.

01:18:43.000 And, of course, we all know about Adam Perlman, the so-called American Al Qaeda.

01:18:47.000 Apparently, we've got another one just surfaced in New York. 0.99

01:18:49.000 He's been running this blog with all this hate America, you know, Muslims should kill America stuff. 1.00

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01:18:57.000 And it's another fraud.

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01:19:00.000 You've got the Intel Center uploading it, and top Wired magazine, you know, top computer people look at it, and they're placing the Intel Center bug in the same video letter as the Al-Qaeda bug.

01:19:12.000 I mean, Adam Gadon, grandson of the ADL head. 0.97

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01:19:18.000 Well, obviously they think we're a lot dumber than we really are, because they keep trying to play these tricks. 1.00

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01:19:38.000 Well, I mean, come on, the grandson of the ADL head and it's uploaded in the same video layer as the... I mean, come on, folks.

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01:24:01.000 He's a special effects expert.

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01:24:07.000 He doesn't like to brag about it, but he does the Lost TV show.

01:24:09.000 He's the main special effects guy there.

01:24:11.000 And so he understands this, but a top computer video expert and several others have been looking at the Intel Center videos.

01:24:22.000 And you'll have the Al-Qaeda graphic.

01:24:26.000 And then you'll have, in the same video layer, and they have ways looking at the pixels to be able to tell this, in the same video layer, you will have the Intel Center logo.

01:24:37.000 And there have been a lot of other reports where they always catch these different Elkata types being uploaded from government servers in the U.S.

01:24:43.000 or uploaded from neocon companies.

01:24:47.000 And then you have all of these U.S.

01:24:51.000 citizens or Israeli citizens are tied into the ADL, caught putting out videos in English. 1.00

01:24:56.000 Listen, scum, we will kill you dirty Americans! 1.00

01:25:00.000 So you can hear it in your own language and people, that dirty Al-Qaeda! 1.00

01:25:05.000 Mike, can you speak as a special effects expert on what we're witnessing here?

01:25:10.000 Well, I don't think you need to look at it from the point of view of special effects.

01:25:14.000 It's just very obviously it's propaganda.

01:25:17.000 You know, political organizations, which, you know, everybody's a political organization, they build power by building supporters.

01:25:25.000 They don't go out of their way to make enemies, especially enemies of people who are going to have the potential capability of coming in and inflicting serious, serious harm.

01:25:34.000 So anytime you get anything that looks like it's an assault, you know, if somebody's trying to pick a fight, and psychiatrists call this Let's you and him fight, and this is a human trait of exerting one's own power by tricking other people to hurt each other and kill each other for you, and keep your own hands clean.

01:25:57.000 The British call that the Great Game.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, very much so, and you know, of course, Israel has a long record of playing these kind of deceptions, going back to the bombing of the King David Hotel, the Levon Affair, the attack on the USS Liberty, And so when you see these propaganda videos coming out that are being made by somebody that's known to be the grandson of an ADL board member, you have to say, what is this guy really trying to do?

01:26:21.000 And it's obvious he's trying to build anger in America to go kill Muslims, and ultimately, because we have never actually been invaded by Muslims, this is something we have to ask.

01:26:33.000 Who really stands to benefit by America's war on all these things? 0.96

01:26:39.000 Adam Perlman, now Gadahn, even got in trouble once and got arrested for going to Mosque to beat up Muslims.

01:26:45.000 But he suddenly just loves them all!

01:26:47.000 I'm with Al Qaeda! 0.91

01:26:50.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:26:52.000 It's a fake. 0.97

01:26:53.000 They can't find real Muslim terrorists that are going to say the things that they need the American people to think Muslims are saying. 1.00

01:27:00.000 Yeah, you dirty Americans will die soon! 1.00

01:27:02.000 Ha ha ha ha! 1.00

01:27:05.000 You do that very well.

01:27:08.000 You know what?

01:27:09.000 I mean, I could put a beard on and do that, too.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, anybody can.

01:27:13.000 And in some of the videos that we've seen, the beards are obviously phony.

01:27:19.000 The guys don't even look like Osama over time.

01:27:21.000 The more they make these videotapes, the less like the real Osama looks. 0.68

01:27:25.000 I think they're trying to migrate him into a newer, younger, more dangerous-looking version and hope that nobody notices that he's changing over time.

01:27:34.000 But the reality is most people are now aware that Osama Bin Laden himself died in December of 2001 of medical issues.

01:27:41.000 And every Osama since then has been a fake of one form or another. 0.91

01:27:46.000 And like I said in the last segment, the problem from the point of view of the U.S.

01:27:50.000 government is they're playing the game by the rules that worked in the 1950s and 1960s, and they just don't get it.

01:27:58.000 You know, back in the 50s and 60s, they would be happy if they fooled 95% of Americans into going along with the agenda.

01:28:05.000 Because that other 5% that weren't fooled were harmless and helpless and couldn't do anything about it.

01:28:09.000 But that has changed.

01:28:11.000 The instant one person spots the fraud and puts out exactly why they think it's a fraud, everybody who reads it looks at it and says, oh yeah.

01:28:20.000 And the instant the government is exposed on a single lie, all of a sudden everybody is looking at everything the government has ever said with a new, very critical eye.

01:28:30.000 And they've been exposed.

01:28:31.000 They've been exposed in thousands of lies.

01:28:32.000 There's another transparent lie.

01:28:34.000 Every week there's a new Al-Qaeda tape that always serves the interests of the Western bankers and that never even says where it comes from.

01:28:43.000 It just says the message board has a new tape.

01:28:46.000 And then the news acts like it's authentic, and suddenly all the standards of journalism for the AP and Reuters don't exist anymore.

01:28:53.000 Well, the reason for that is very simple.

01:28:55.000 Every time they would put out this new Al-Qaeda website, computer experts would track down the site and they'd find it was located in West Virginia, or in Texas, or some other place inside the United States.

01:29:06.000 They couldn't hide where the actual server was, so now they won't announce them anymore.

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01:29:13.000 And ostensibly this is to keep impressionable minds from going to the Al-Qaeda websites and becoming terrorists themselves.

01:29:20.000 But the reality is, they can't put out a convincing web server... Well, it's real simple.

01:29:25.000 They blow up the video of Adam Gadahn, the ADL guy, and it's in the same pixels.

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01:29:37.000 And it's just absolutely fake, folks.

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01:37:31.000 Going back to Mike, I want to move quick, Mike, here.

01:37:35.000 Your take on the plan to go into Iran, despite the fact that it's unpopular, despite the fact that the people don't want it, they are still... we had Betrayus say last week that he wanted To, you know, do something against Iran because he thought they launched the attacks on the Green Zone.

01:37:56.000 Then you have Bush bragging that they ordered the attack.

01:37:58.000 Then when it failed in Basra, he said he wasn't part of the attack.

01:38:02.000 We've got amassing troops.

01:38:04.000 Do you really think they've got the chutzpah or the bravado to do it?

01:38:09.000 Well, I don't even think it has anything to do with chutzpah and bravado.

01:38:13.000 I think the plan is that if they can start a whole new war in Iran, that they might get back their popularity and their poll numbers that they got after the invasion of Iraq immediately after. 0.84

01:38:24.000 In other words, they're trying to create a whole new crisis to distract from all the other crises that are definitely turning against them.

01:38:30.000 But I'm looking at this last situation in Basra, and before it kicked up, first part of the month of March, they were saying that everything was really quiet in Iraq, and that proved the surge was working.

01:38:41.000 And then as soon as we have all this violence escalating, Bush is back on TV saying, this proves the surge is working, because now they're striking back against it.

01:38:49.000 And it was like, no matter what happens, you know, it's a good thing for us.

01:38:53.000 It proves the surge is working, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:38:55.000 And it really, they're lying to look good at the moment, and they're really not even paying attention to what they said before, because they're assuming that the rest of us aren't paying attention to what was said before.

01:39:08.000 And again, this reveals they don't understand how the information processing of the American people and the rest of the world is changing.

01:39:16.000 In the current age.

01:39:18.000 They're totally reactive here.

01:39:21.000 They're in crisis management.

01:39:23.000 And I think the desire to go into Iran is, first of all, to prove that they can still do it. 0.95

01:39:28.000 To prove that they and not the American people are running the country. 0.98

01:39:31.000 But mostly, I think, They are convinced that if they can start a new war in Iran, that all of a sudden the American people are going to fall into line behind them and say, yes, we've got a big war, we must march off and send our children to die in Iran, and so forth and so on.

01:39:45.000 Ultimately, though, if Bush keeps pushing, we could find ourselves at war with Russia or China, or both, and I don't think that's the situation any of us want.

01:39:57.000 Well, I agree with you that they see it as failing forward.

01:39:59.000 Like all the Republican memos have said, either we're going to have a new war, or Saddam is going to be captured, but that didn't work, or Bin Laden is going to be captured, or a new 9-11.

01:40:11.000 And then we had Republicans writing all these memos, and then it came out in the news, oh, we want terror attacks.

01:40:18.000 I mean, first off, they do need to fail forward, but I see that as blowing up in their face.

01:40:23.000 Do you think they realize that, A, and then B, why do we have people like Gary Hart coming out and writing letters to Iran saying, we'll stage terror attacks, you better do what we say?

01:40:34.000 It just seems like it's a mix of panic plus total hubris.

01:40:40.000 Yeah, absolutely, and that's a bad combination because sooner or later, When you have a political leadership that is that in love with their own agenda and philosophy and their self-image, and that out of touch with their own people, sooner or later they're going to make the big mistake that brings it all down.

01:40:57.000 I mean, if you go back and you look at Ceausescu or Charles I or Louis XVI, These were rulers who miscalculated and they made the mistake of pushing just a little too far and it all came apart.

01:41:10.000 Well they miscalculated, they miscalculated, they tried to have a nine to the long knives against the Shiites, tried to arrest and kill them from Baghdad to Basra, and then the Shiites fought back and the news didn't even report that. 0.98

01:41:23.000 It was all over the foreign press and just said those dirty Shiites, they snuck attack us. 0.99

01:41:28.000 No, the globalists ran a sneak attack on them. 0.98

01:41:31.000 Yeah, Maliki started the whole situation, and he put his... he found himself, you know, with his hand in a bear trap and tried to pull back.

01:41:39.000 And, you know, Iran comes in playing peacemaker, which makes the U.S. 0.98

01:41:42.000 look even worse.

01:41:43.000 And al-Sadr says, yeah, we'll back off as long as you don't attack us again.

01:41:49.000 And what that basically means is Maliki is now seen as no longer in control of all of Iraq.

01:41:55.000 And it turns out that Bush's boyfriend, Petraeus, known as Petraeus, it turns out that he really thought that al-Sadr stood down because he was weak.

01:42:06.000 Instead, al-Sadr had built up their system. 0.98

01:42:11.000 Absolutely, and the consensus coming out of Iraq right now is there are parts of Iraq that are under Maliki's control, there are parts of Iraq which de facto are under al-Sadr's control, and everybody knows which is which, and they know not to go into the other side.

01:42:25.000 And this is probably going to deteriorate into the same situation we had in Mogadishu a few years back, if you go back to the whole Blackhawk Down situation.

01:42:34.000 Where everything's factionalized and broke up and we wound up, you know, the U.S.

01:42:39.000 wound up very embarrassed in that situation.

01:42:42.000 Iraq is deteriorating. 0.53

01:42:43.000 There's no two ways about it.

01:42:45.000 This whole surge idea was working in the first place only because we were bribing the people on the other side not to shoot at us.

01:42:53.000 And obviously it's a huge amount of damage.

01:42:55.000 And it was working and the deaths have been cut in about half.

01:42:58.000 Still a complete disaster five plus years in.

01:43:01.000 And then they had to break their own deal.

01:43:04.000 I mean, that's a consistent problem with the United States.

01:43:08.000 They'll make a deal with one group and then they'll say, oh, that's no longer operative, and they go make a different deal.

01:43:14.000 And that's one of the reasons why no foreign government on earth will really trust the United States anymore.

01:43:18.000 Well, that's it.

01:43:19.000 There's nothing worse than an individual or a company or a government that knowingly lies and cheats you.

01:43:25.000 People just stop dealing with you.

01:43:28.000 Well, you know, Bush has violated and just outright ignored so many treaties, and that's considered the highest commitment between nations, is when you sign a treaty.

01:43:38.000 And for Bush to have set so many of them aside, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks, the Geneva Conventions, all of these things are no longer part of the United States, and the rest of the world is saying, okay, well, the U.S.

01:43:52.000 is not the moral leader they used to be.

01:43:54.000 You know, we're going to be decades recovering from this, if we recover from it at all.

01:44:01.000 Also, Cheney and Bush and Rumsfeld came out and bragged about torture in press conferences.

01:44:08.000 I'll never forget seeing Rumsfeld openly say it in a Pentagon press conference in 2002.

01:44:13.000 They thought they could sell everybody on their mindset because they have to recruit people, so they have to kind of be public about what they want to do.

01:44:21.000 And they've hung their shingle out, and they've said, hey, we want martial law, we want police state, we want 100 year war, we want to take your rights, and the people are rejecting it, and in a way, they're trying to sell evil as good, I think, prove to everybody that you and I and others were telling them the truth, because this stuff sounded crazy 10 years ago, or 5 years ago.

01:44:44.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:44:45.000 When I started, what really happened, you know, 15 years ago now, I mean, I was ostracized and criticized.

01:44:51.000 I was literally kicked out of Hollywood for saying the things I was saying.

01:44:57.000 Now, all of a sudden, people are coming back to me and saying, you know, you were right all along.

01:45:01.000 They really were planning this stuff.

01:45:05.000 You know, and it really doesn't make me feel all that much better for them to be saying, now, you were right, because if they realized I was, or we were right back then, we might have had a little more success in kind of heading off some of the stuff that's happened, that we didn't want to happen, like the torture.

01:45:23.000 But, you know, at least people are waking up now, and I think because of that, you know, there is a good chance we may be able to derail this rush into World War III.

01:45:32.000 I hope so.

01:45:33.000 I just know this.

01:45:36.000 You know, for people out there listening, don't think we're completely out of the woods.

01:45:40.000 The people running our country are very bold.

01:45:42.000 I mean, they flew planes into buildings.

01:45:44.000 They killed 3,000 of us because it's a military decision.

01:45:48.000 Just like a military leader will put 3,000 of his troops in a valley to pull in the enemy to show themselves and knowing it will sacrifice his 3,000.

01:45:55.000 That's happened many, many times with even greater numbers in some cases.

01:45:59.000 So it was a military mindset that did that out of the military-industrial complex allied with of the international bankers.

01:46:09.000 We need to understand they are very bold, Mike.

01:46:11.000 They are bold.

01:46:12.000 And I just hope and pray that somehow people in government stop them.

01:46:20.000 Well, I'd like to see that, but, you know, I kind of had that same idea 15 years ago when all I was focused on was the Vince Foster case.

01:46:27.000 I kept thinking, if I just put out these facts, you know, that people within the FBI are going to say, hey, yeah, there's really a crime that took place here.

01:46:35.000 It didn't happen, unfortunately.

01:46:38.000 Our government really is corrupted all the way through. 0.92

01:46:41.000 But in addition to the idea of being bold, a lot of our leaders are just outright sociopathic.

01:46:46.000 They literally cannot feel what their actions cause pain to other people.

01:46:52.000 They can't feel that.

01:46:53.000 The other part of it is, there is, within some circles of government, an agenda for depopulation.

01:47:00.000 If you look what's happening right now with the food shortages starting to happen, everybody's going to be screaming, population is a problem, and this all goes back to Henry Kissinger's National Security Study 200, Which during the Nixon era said, we can control world population if we can deliberately cause famine.

01:47:19.000 Food is a weapon.

01:47:20.000 Food is a weapon.

01:47:21.000 You have the 96th UN Food Summit saying the same thing.

01:47:24.000 And that's the big issue.

01:47:26.000 There is a larger international force playing Bush and the neocons kind of as their meat puppets.

01:47:32.000 But now I do see even that elite group seeing that the rook they put forward, the neocons, has been a failure.

01:47:41.000 And now they're trying to extricate themselves from what they've started, and it appears that the neocons are running along on their own steam, refusing to be drawn back in.

01:47:52.000 Do you agree with that analysis?

01:47:54.000 Yeah, I would, but you know, it's not always that clear-cut.

01:47:58.000 There are a lot of overlapping factions and a lot of temporary alliances.

01:48:02.000 I think a lot of the support the Neocons did have is leaving them because they've become too visible. 0.99

01:48:07.000 They've really lost the support of the majority of the American people who recognize there's nothing really conservative about the Neoconservative movement, that it's basically fascism under a new name.

01:48:19.000 And Americans have really turned their backs on that, especially because we've been bankrupted by those wars started with life and war.

01:48:26.000 But I'm talking about the elites.

01:48:29.000 I'm talking about the Vildenberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR.

01:48:36.000 I think that's the same group of people.

01:48:38.000 I think their support for the neocons is definitely on the wane because the neocons have not been able to deliver what they were going to deliver, which is U.S.

01:48:46.000 war on eight nations in the Mideast.

01:48:49.000 We're bogged down in the first two.

01:48:50.000 It's a fight to start the third.

01:48:52.000 No way is this going to sustain to reach all of the eventual targets that was in the neocons.

01:48:58.000 That's right.

01:48:58.000 It's not as easy as the armchair generals said it would be.

01:49:03.000 That's absolutely it.

01:49:04.000 So now they're looking for another device.

01:49:06.000 That's one of the reasons why I think, believe it or not, the same forces are kind of behind this whole global warming thing, where they want to sell us carbon taxes, they want to justify complete control over our lives in terms of how much energy we're using.

01:49:20.000 No, they've got two tracks.

01:49:21.000 They've got, we're going to take your rights to fight the boogeyman Al-Qaeda, and we're going to take your rights to fight the boogeyman Mr. Evil Carbon Dioxide. 0.73

01:49:30.000 Yeah, that's basically it.

01:49:31.000 It's constantly creating a new enemy for you to be afraid of, so that they can take your money and your rights away, In order to protect you from, you know, the mythical Osama Carbon... Meanwhile, Mike, they're genetic engineering uncontrolled, deadly dangerous, they've got particle accelerators smashing heavy elements together, and the majority of physicists say it's very dangerous.

01:49:52.000 What's wrong with this elite?

01:49:55.000 Well, the elite, they're in love with their own power and ability to do things, and, you know, they basically look back through history, and they say everything that bad goes on, we can stick on somebody else.

01:50:05.000 But in the case of the genetic engineering, and possibly with this accelerator in Europe, we're dealing with technologies that have the potential really to wreck the entire world and not just an area.

01:50:18.000 Chernobyl, as terrible as it was, was confined to a small area.

01:50:22.000 You put up a chain link fence around it, nobody goes in.

01:50:25.000 Disaster's over.

01:50:26.000 We've had industrial accidents with dioxin, where they have to basically... Stay there.

01:50:31.000 I want to get your take on this.

01:50:32.000 Mike Rivera, and I promise we're going to get to Dan, Drew, and others.

01:50:35.000 Keep Mike a few minutes into the next hour, if you can do that.

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01:50:38.000 He's a great guy.

01:50:40.000 We really are always honored to have him join us once a month.

01:50:42.000 And he's also here on the GCN Radio Network.

01:50:44.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:53.000 Let me get this straight.

01:52:54.000 Uncivil Liberties takes place in the future, right?

01:52:57.000 Like Star Wars?

01:52:58.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:52:58.000 Slightly in the future.

01:53:00.000 Wait a second.

01:53:01.000 I thought Star Wars took place a long, long time ago.

01:53:04.000 Alright, Einstein.

01:53:05.000 But it is kind of like Star Wars anyway.

01:53:07.000 Just like Star Wars, there's an evil empire and some people have started an armed rebellion to fight the evil empire.

01:53:14.000 Okay, so don't tell me, the government's the bad guys again?

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01:53:18.000 Oh, so your character's like Luke Skywalker?

01:53:21.000 Not exactly.

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01:53:24.000 Not really, but my character does help the rebellion to stop the government's evil tracking system, which is happening now in the real world, just like in Uncivil Liberties.

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01:54:51.000 Mike, just briefly, then we'll go right to the calls.

01:54:53.000 SuperScience.

01:54:55.000 It's here.

01:54:55.000 It's 2008.

01:54:57.000 Max Planck and others, a hundred years ago, drew up equations for A-bombs.

01:55:02.000 Sixty-five years ago, they detonated one.

01:55:06.000 And now we've got things much more advanced.

01:55:08.000 And the scientists I've been reading over it, prestigious physicists, are saying there is a good chance that doing this could really cause massive disasters.

01:55:18.000 And they don't care.

01:55:18.000 They just say they're going to do it, and they're not going to stop.

01:55:23.000 The psychology of that is bizarre.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, it really, really is, because we're getting to an area where the technologies do have a potential to threaten Earth as a whole.

01:55:37.000 And the example I like to use is not from the nuclear physics, but from genetic research.

01:55:42.000 Because when you have an accident like a Chernobyl, as terrible as it is, it's confined to just one place. 0.63

01:55:48.000 You put fences around it, you say nobody can go in there for the next thousand years, and that's kind of the end of it, and you live and learn and you move forward.

01:55:56.000 But in the case of genetic tinkering, where a lot of these products are being put out before they're fully understood how they're going to affect the environment, and we start getting these synthetic genes migrating into natural plants, and we get unpredictable effects.

01:56:14.000 There is, apparently back in 1999, it was already known that genetically modified plants were killing the larvae of monarch butterflies.

01:56:24.000 And now, of course, we have the situation where the bees that we depend on to pollinate our food crop plants are starting to die off.

01:56:31.000 Apparently, statistics out of North Dakota is they've lost half their bee population in the last year.

01:56:38.000 So, unlike a nuclear accident, which is confined to one area, if you get a bad gene, like a gene that sterilizes life forms, After so many generations, and it gets out into the wild, it will spread everywhere on Earth.

01:56:52.000 Or nanotech, biological nanotech, the classic grey goo, or something that, you know, attacks the basic oxygen absorption of all blood cells, killing all animals.

01:57:04.000 I mean, it's just like five years ago, the big government university in Australia released the coding and the recipe to build a mousepox that kills any mammal you engineer it for 100%.

01:57:17.000 And they just put out the ingredient list.

01:57:19.000 Why do you think they're doing that, Mike?

01:57:21.000 Well, it was a very reckless thing to do, and I know sometimes that university scientists, you know, don't see the world as necessarily an evil place, and they need to be careful.

01:57:33.000 But yeah, they put these formulas out there, and now we've got our scientists up in there in the Arctic.

01:57:38.000 They're digging up the Spanish flu to play with again, which, by the way, is hideously misnamed because it did not come from Spain.

01:57:44.000 It came from U.S.

01:57:45.000 military bases.

01:57:47.000 But with regard to the situation with the Collider in CERN, I'm surprised to hear them say that it could conceivably make a quantum black hole.

01:57:57.000 I'm even more alarmed where they're saying that they just assume that any quantum black hole made would simply evaporate because this is based on a very flawed, I feel, theory of the universe.

01:58:10.000 I don't know if we have enough time to really get into it.

01:58:12.000 You know what?

01:58:13.000 Sure.

01:58:13.000 No, no.

01:58:14.000 This is important.

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01:58:20.000 Be ready.

01:58:21.000 But I'm going to get Mike Rivero's take on this.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, Hawking just says he hopes everything will be okay.

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02:00:10.000 We're already into hour number three of your calls here momentarily.

02:00:14.000 Got a physicist coming on to talk about the dangers of this heavy reactor, this superconducting supercollider.

02:00:23.000 Over in Europe, they've just completed and they're about to start playing with the building blocks of the universe.

02:00:28.000 And a lot of prestigious physicists are warning it's very dangerous.

02:00:33.000 They have already made black holes in some of these laboratories, but these are even bigger and more dangerous types that they admit can be made.

02:00:40.000 Talking to Mike Rivera, finishing up with your take on that, Mike, and then we're going to go to calls.

02:00:45.000 Well, basically, the idea that black holes are going to evaporate.

02:00:49.000 I'm not sure what they're creating in the laboratory.

02:00:51.000 And one of the things to keep in mind is, at the energy levels that they're talking about, that this device is operating, they may not be finding new subatomic particles.

02:00:59.000 They may be creating them.

02:01:02.000 And there's a disconnect.

02:01:03.000 No, no, that's what they say.

02:01:04.000 No, they say they want to make them.

02:01:06.000 They admit this new mega-reactor does that.

02:01:10.000 And the idea is, these particles may not exist in nature, so what the value of creating them is, you know, we can't really... No, no, that's what I said.

02:01:18.000 They've already made new ones.

02:01:20.000 You know, 20, 30 years ago, going back over 40, they have those other systems where they have made new elements.

02:01:26.000 But go ahead, Mike.

02:01:27.000 Yeah, the idea is that, you know, this is a very dangerous device.

02:01:32.000 When you start getting into the idea of creating black holes, I challenge this idea that somehow they just evaporate.

02:01:40.000 Because the reason that it's claimed they simply evaporate is because if you subscribe to the theory of the Big Bang, in that moment where the universe came into being, the mass density was so great there should have been all huge clouds of little tiny black holes.

02:01:58.000 You know, planet-sized ones, centimeter-sized ones, subatomic-sized ones.

02:02:02.000 And eventually the whole universe would become, instead of one gigantic black hole at the beginning, a lot of smaller black holes all over the universe.

02:02:09.000 We didn't see this happen.

02:02:10.000 So the question is, where do all these black holes that had to attend the creation of the universe go to?

02:02:15.000 They say, oh, well, they simply evaporated.

02:02:18.000 But this is kind of like the theory of epicycles.

02:02:20.000 When they began to look at the planets and realized they didn't follow the path that the Earth-centered A universe theory said they should, instead of going back and looking at that first theory, they made up the theory of epicycles, which ultimately turned out to be fake.

02:02:34.000 If they create a real black hole in this collider, I'm not reassured it's going to simply evaporate, and of course there's no way to hang on to something like that.

02:02:44.000 If they create a real black hole and they drop it, basically that's, you know, that's the death warrant on the Earth.

02:02:50.000 No, it's going to go to the core of the Earth and suck the planet into it. 0.88

02:02:53.000 Yeah, and it's really risky for them to be doing this.

02:02:58.000 And I know they've made the claim that they've created tiny black holes that vanished instantaneously.

02:03:03.000 I'm not sure they really did, because, you know, once you have a mass that is in a black hole state, by what means is that mass or energy ever able to escape it?

02:03:15.000 So you can ask your physicist guest about that, and I would love to be enlightened, but I am not Absolutely reassured that a genuine black hole created in the laboratory is simply going to pop out of existence.

02:03:28.000 Yeah, well they talk about them decaying if they don't get enough mass sucked into them.

02:03:32.000 But you would imagine that the Big Bang there's going to be plenty of matter to be sucked into the black holes to make them larger and more powerful.

02:03:40.000 Plus, if it got so dense it then exploded, why didn't it immediately start contracting again?

02:03:48.000 There are a lot of reasons to really question that whole Big Bang Theory, and by extension, to question any assumptions made on the basis of it.

02:03:56.000 But, you know, again, I'm not paid to be a physicist, or I haven't been for 20 years now.

02:04:01.000 I mean, again, H.C.

02:04:02.000 Wells, 95 years ago, wrote books about A-bombs. 1.00

02:04:06.000 It shows that a lot of the stuff's on the books before they do it, and a lot of physicists are saying it's going to make black holes, and they believe it's going to destroy the Earth, and they're saying, yeah, it'll probably make one, but it'll just decay because the equations show this.

02:04:21.000 Well, you know, the equations showed that epicycles would work, too, but the equations don't reflect reality.

02:04:27.000 They just reflect this model, and sometimes the models are accurate, and sometimes they are not.

02:04:32.000 I mean, don't forget, we went into Iraq with all these Pentagon computer mathematical models of how easy it was going to be to win there.

02:04:39.000 Well, they used flawed models on the global warming front, too.

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02:07:56.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:07:59.000 Okay, we're back live, ladies and gentlemen.

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02:08:13.000 Taking your calls, Dan in New York City.

02:08:15.000 You're on the air, thanks for holding.

02:08:20.000 On the subject of life extension technology, to extend life you obviously need to be free of disease, so I just wanted to know your opinions on the clinical research of Dr. Royal Raymond Rife and the ability to be able to cure most microbial diseases by hitting them with resonant frequency that he so-called claimed to do back in the 1930s.

02:08:45.000 Okay, let me give you my answer to that.

02:08:47.000 I am not a physician, either Western medicine or Eastern medicine.

02:08:52.000 I have interviewed hundreds and hundreds of medical experts who've actually proven what they talk about.

02:08:58.000 Let me be clear. 0.92

02:09:00.000 Royal Raymond Rife was a weirdo.

02:09:04.000 He certainly was a talented individual.

02:09:07.000 But I'm not saying that he was wrong.

02:09:12.000 I'm not saying he was right.

02:09:15.000 Uh, certainly we know that they have frequencies and might be able to use frequencies.

02:09:20.000 Uh, and there even are some treatments, uh, medically, uh, with different types of sonars and things to try to break things up.

02:09:28.000 But there's no doubt that many of the quacks that then sell for $2,000, $3,000, $4,000. 1.00

02:09:32.000 I mean, they'll sell CDs for $1,000.

02:09:33.000 $3,000, $4,000.

02:09:34.000 I mean, they'll sell CDs for $1,000.

02:09:36.000 You play on a computer that flashes lights on the screen and plays music.

02:09:41.000 I'm not here to be predatory.

02:09:43.000 I push things I believe in.

02:09:44.000 Guns, gold, food, silver, water filters.

02:09:48.000 I mean, everybody knows that aloe vera is good for you.

02:09:53.000 I mean, I grew up, you know, getting burns and then learning it made it feel better, when an ice cube didn't.

02:10:00.000 And so, because the mainstream media lies and spins so much, we then tend to think that all the alternative media is telling the truth, and what it is, is a lot of people Taking advantage of well-meaning patriots.

02:10:15.000 Now, should we censor these quacks? 1.00

02:10:17.000 No.

02:10:18.000 Because once you start censorship, then they can use that on good people.

02:10:22.000 But people criticize me and get upset when I say it's absolute bull.

02:10:26.000 It is absolute bull.

02:10:28.000 These little things you stick on cell phones, a little sticker that supposedly blocks the cell phone radiation, or changes the frequency, total bull.

02:10:38.000 And I'm sick of it.

02:10:41.000 Now, Mike Rivero?

02:10:43.000 Well, I absolutely agree.

02:10:44.000 There's a lot of flummery going on out there.

02:10:48.000 But as far as the issue of life extension and disease, I think we place too much emphasis on getting rid of all microbial diseases because it's part of our natural process that, you know, our immune system needs these small infections in order to strengthen itself and make it more able to deal with more serious diseases down the road.

02:11:07.000 And it's kind of interesting there's an anecdotal correlation for people who have lived the longest into the hundreds to have gone through periods of extreme ill health when they're very, very young.

02:11:19.000 Same thing with rats.

02:11:20.000 Same thing with rats.

02:11:21.000 Near starvation. 0.99

02:11:23.000 Folks, it's your genetic code that kills you. 1.00

02:11:26.000 We're designed to die to make room for the next group. 0.98

02:11:29.000 We're also mammals.

02:11:30.000 We have a lot higher exchange level of hormones. 0.96

02:11:33.000 That's why sharks don't get cancer. 0.93

02:11:34.000 We do.

02:11:36.000 We're dynamic creatures.

02:11:37.000 We're warm-blooded.

02:11:38.000 Mike, you want to explain that?

02:11:40.000 Yeah, basically, we're programmed to self-destruct because life forms that don't self-destruct tend to exhaust their food supply and become extinct very, very quickly.

02:11:51.000 And so we have evolved a population control measure, which is that we eventually die off and make way for the ones that come afterwards.

02:12:01.000 Let me explain, folks.

02:12:02.000 Let me explain.

02:12:03.000 It is a design for the species.

02:12:07.000 We are here for the species health. 0.99

02:12:08.000 That's why people think their islands under themselves are fools.

02:12:12.000 We are designed in the species. 0.76

02:12:15.000 You're not happy until you're helping the species.

02:12:17.000 You were designed to serve the species.

02:12:19.000 Mike?

02:12:21.000 Yeah, and the other thing to remember is that if there really was a way to extend life significantly, it's never going to be allowed onto the general public because it would trigger an immediate population Explosion and a Malthusian contact.

02:12:35.000 It's going to be kept secret.

02:12:36.000 They are getting radical extension systems, but they're finding more and more that the elites are going to be able to extend life, but not indefinitely, but they will be able to genetically mess with our DNA and to turn off the mechanisms that do that.

02:12:50.000 Mike?

02:12:51.000 Yeah, but again, it will never be... That's got to be done at the cellular level pre-pre-chestation, correct?

02:12:58.000 I'm not 100% certain it's going to remain that way.

02:13:00.000 We're starting to see gene therapies that allow for modification in matured organisms.

02:13:06.000 That's the massive extension, but I mean to really have something that doesn't die for thousands of years with the current template we've got, you're going to have to have manipulation before the zygote level with the sperm and the egg to make those genetics work together.

02:13:21.000 Yes, that's correct.

02:13:22.000 We're already digressing.

02:13:23.000 Let's go to Drew in Florida.

02:13:25.000 You're on the air, Drew.

02:13:27.000 Hello?

02:13:28.000 Yes sir, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:13:29.000 Hey there, good sir.

02:13:30.000 Boy, you guys have some great topics.

02:13:33.000 Where to begin?

02:13:33.000 I called to talk about 9-11, and one topic here to my heart is actually the creation of the universe.

02:13:39.000 So, I'd love to ask questions about that, but I think I need to stick to 9-11.

02:13:46.000 My question is, early in 2006, I unfortunately became involved with investigating Katrina.

02:13:53.000 More specifically, I became interested in research regarding the levy system.

02:13:58.000 I come to find out through several people at the Army Corps of Engineers, that basically, the levies were detonated.

02:14:04.000 Well, they blew them up in the 20s before.

02:14:08.000 Right.

02:14:09.000 My thing is, I actually didn't have a problem with that.

02:14:13.000 What I found out was, a company, very specifically, a company called CDI, Controlled Demolition Incorporated, Was the company that physically did the actual detonation?

02:14:24.000 Well, I don't know about that, but I'd like to hear your proof.

02:14:26.000 We know they did Oklahoma City and the World Trade Center, but... Alex, my point is, I knew nothing about CDI before 2006.

02:14:35.000 Nothing.

02:14:36.000 I never even knew what that was.

02:14:38.000 Then it took me about five minutes with the research to know that they have their gritty little paws in absolutely every single questionable demolition over the last hundred years.

02:14:50.000 Then I realized, what were they doing?

02:14:53.000 And my question, this is really the big question.

02:14:55.000 What was CDI, Controlled Demolition Incorporated, doing in New York City for six weeks prior to 9-11?

02:15:04.000 I'd like your thoughts on that.

02:15:05.000 Well, they even bought a major steel smelting facility six months before in New York and they were even contracting with truck companies previously for masses of steel and they are always the company that is hired to cover up the crime scenes and then post armed guards around it.

02:15:22.000 Mike Rivera?

02:15:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:15:25.000 They came in and going back to the Oklahoma City bombing 0.91

02:15:29.000 Uh, there was, uh, that strange double pulse on the seismic wave that, uh, came out from the original bombing of the Murrah building, and then when, uh, controlled demolition, uh, took the remains of the building down, I noted how they deliberately brought it down in two chunks to try and create a similar double pulse wave, but all they really did was confirm that there had to be two separate events, uh, regarded to the Oklahoma building when, uh, when the first attack took place.

02:15:57.000 Which seems consistent with the idea that there were, in fact, cutter charges inside the Murrah building that were detonated about five seconds before the main truck bomb went off.

02:16:07.000 But yeah, they're definitely involved in all of these situations.

02:16:10.000 They were right there in New York.

02:16:12.000 And yeah, they very much seem to be part and parcel to a lot of these very questionable cleanups.

02:16:17.000 I have now traced CDI over the last two years to over two dozen Mysterious detonations from China, to Russia, to the Congo, Indonesia, all over North America.

02:16:31.000 And I knew nothing about it.

02:16:32.000 Well, go back.

02:16:32.000 How did you track them?

02:16:33.000 I want to hear your proof.

02:16:34.000 How did you track them?

02:16:35.000 I mean, we know who they are.

02:16:36.000 We know they're very wicked.

02:16:38.000 But, I mean, how did you track them back to the levees?

02:16:42.000 Well, I was there.

02:16:44.000 I was at the levee system.

02:16:46.000 I was there with several people who told me they can't tell me under some kind of bizarro strict oath which okay whatever and then the name cdi kept coming up apple that didn't mean anything to me it didn't mean anything until after i realized where that company and well as a lot of other article approval posted appreciate the call uh...

02:17:09.000 david in montana you're on the air last call we have time for from mike rivero well i don't want to get your subject but i did want to talk to you about something about a second amendment cases being heard by the supreme court Yeah, it's a gun gathering rule for gun control.

02:17:25.000 Spent it as a pro-gun ruling.

02:17:27.000 Go ahead.

02:17:28.000 Montana Secretary of State, Brad Johnson, has sent a letter to the Supreme Court that guns are legal in his state under the Compact, which each party agreed to when Montana joined the Union in 1889.

02:17:42.000 What's his name?

02:17:42.000 I want to get him on.

02:17:43.000 Brad Johnson.

02:17:44.000 He's the Montana Secretary of State.

02:17:48.000 Now that letter was signed by multiple House and Senate reps here in Montana, along with our Washington, D.C.

02:17:57.000 rep, Denny Rehberg.

02:17:59.000 And included in that letter says that if the Supreme Court ruling says that the Second Amendment rights apply only collectively, it would violate the contract under which Montana has entered the Union as a state.

02:18:14.000 Meaning that... Yeah, it would.

02:18:15.000 It would.

02:18:16.000 We gotta jump.

02:18:17.000 Mike, you know, them going after our guns, they just aren't gonna stop pushing, are they, Mike?

02:18:22.000 No, they aren't, because, you know, in order to feel secure in their power, they're going to have to render the American people completely helpless.

02:18:29.000 And that's more than just constant surveillance and listening to our phone calls and reading our mail.

02:18:33.000 They've got to take away the guns.

02:18:35.000 Otherwise, you know, at some point when we do get angry, you know, we're going to fight back.

02:18:40.000 Right now, the U.S.

02:18:41.000 government is in so much debt, the only way they can even think to float their loans along is to put an 80 to 90 percent aggregate tax rate on every American citizen.

02:18:51.000 And we're already dying here at a 50% aggregate rate.

02:18:54.000 So yeah, they're trying to figure out some way to trick us into giving up the guns.

02:19:00.000 Boy, they're really saying the economy's melting down.

02:19:02.000 They're now admitting it.

02:19:03.000 That means it'll probably accelerate the precipitation of the collapse.

02:19:08.000 I would definitely say that there's nothing they can do that's going to turn the economy around.

02:19:11.000 Because economies are always based on making products, and we gave that ability away over the last 30 years.

02:19:17.000 We're not going to get it back overnight.

02:19:18.000 That's right.

02:19:19.000 They can save Wall Street, but there'll be nothing left.

02:19:22.000 That's absolutely right.

02:19:23.000 And they're going to save Wall Street at our expense.

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02:19:27.000 Mike, it's always wonderful having you on.

02:19:29.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

02:19:30.000 Look forward to doing it again next month.

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02:25:55.000 And again, we are joined by Walter Wagner, a graduate of UC Berkeley.

02:26:00.000 Thank you for coming on with us, sir.

02:26:02.000 Certainly, Alex.

02:26:02.000 Thank you.

02:26:04.000 First off, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got interested in this, and why you're taking action against it.

02:26:08.000 And then, there's a lot of bigwigs that are saying this is dangerous as well, not just you.

02:26:13.000 Well, there are a number of people other than myself who have raised the same concerns and similar concerns.

02:26:19.000 They don't come to the forefront of the attention of the media as As I have, but that doesn't mean they don't have the same concerns.

02:26:29.000 My background started off at UC Berkeley.

02:26:33.000 I was a physics major there initially.

02:26:35.000 My senior year I switched to become a biology major, primarily for economic reasons, so I could graduate sooner that way.

02:26:42.000 I went back into work in physics and cosmic radiation physics at Berkeley for a couple of years.

02:26:48.000 I had some interesting experimental results, found a particle... That's right, you're famous!

02:26:54.000 You found a new particle!

02:26:56.000 Yeah, that's correct.

02:26:57.000 It made the news media of the time.

02:27:00.000 It was all over the world.

02:27:02.000 It was published in peer-reviewed articles and so forth.

02:27:05.000 And it's not been confirmed as of yet, at least not satisfactorily confirmed.

02:27:11.000 That was a high altitude balloon, correct?

02:27:15.000 That is absolutely correct.

02:27:16.000 Picking up a space-space particle before it decayed?

02:27:20.000 Exactly.

02:27:22.000 Exactly.

02:27:23.000 The particle that was detected, we believe, was a magnetic monopole.

02:27:27.000 It was a cosmic ray, the particle track that we saw, that was completely different from all the tens of thousands of other cosmic ray tracks we've previously seen.

02:27:34.000 Interesting.

02:27:35.000 Please continue.

02:27:37.000 Well, anyway, after that I decided to almost on a lark to do law school to see what that was like.

02:27:46.000 So I spent three years struggling through law school and then got out of that and decided that's not what I wanted to do.

02:27:50.000 I went back to work in physics and worked in nuclear medicine, out of the nuclear medicine department in health physics, where we were using a large Varieties of radioactive materials and medical research.

02:28:05.000 And I overviewed the program for about 400 authorized users to make certain that they were following the rules and regulations properly, they understood the physics of the radioactive materials.

02:28:18.000 So you've worked in a wide range of fields.

02:28:20.000 When did you start getting concerned about these giant superconducting super colliders and some of the tests they were doing?

02:28:28.000 It was about 1987 I first became concerned about it.

02:28:31.000 I had initially been very much in favor of building larger machines.

02:28:36.000 Back then they were not colliders, they were fixed target accelerators where you have just a single beam running into a target.

02:28:44.000 And then I started thinking about what ultimately could happen.

02:28:48.000 I started considering the possibility that if you continue to increase the energy of these beams, Uh, that eventually you might be able to create a very small tiny black hole.

02:29:00.000 And I didn't know what that threshold would be that it would take to do that.

02:29:05.000 Let me just stop you. 0.99

02:29:07.000 Are these the same type of black holes that they collect?

02:29:10.000 We'll come right back, because I have AP, Scientists Create Artificial Black Hole in Lab, and it says they were using a collider to do this.

02:29:10.000 Well, stay there.

02:29:17.000 You, I found out like 15 years ago, had said that this might happen, and now they're saying they've actually made them.

02:29:23.000 Or is that a different type of black hole?

02:29:26.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

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02:33:32.000 Chernobyl, the monarch butterflies being sterilized by some of the GMO crops.

02:33:37.000 Look at all the disaster science has created.

02:33:39.000 I love science.

02:33:41.000 But we need to be careful.

02:33:44.000 And we're talking to a gentleman who's a physicist, biologist, worked in many different fields, and they filed a lawsuit to block Uh, the biggest superkinetic supercollider in the world, I guess, that's the modern name from the primitive cyclotrons, but where they can even create new elements.

02:34:02.000 Please continue, sir, just the basics of these, why you believe they're dangerous.

02:34:06.000 There's a lot of other experts that also think that it's dangerous as well.

02:34:11.000 Yes.

02:34:12.000 Well, they are cyclotrons, and what they have done now is instead of running the cyclotron into a fixed target, they now run the beam into each other head-on, and they are increasing the amount of energy that's available for new particle production.

02:34:29.000 And that's the entire purpose of this, is to try to create new particles.

02:34:35.000 And this LHC machine is going to be the most energetic particle collider ever built.

02:34:41.000 It's basically about the size of the superconducting supercollider that was under construction there in Texas.

02:34:47.000 Why did DARPA and the Defense Department decide to not do it in the U.S.?

02:34:52.000 It's being built by the same people, in essence.

02:34:55.000 It's the Fermilab people who have constructed the magnets.

02:34:59.000 Why did DARPA and the Defense Department decide to not do it in the U.S.?

02:35:04.000 Why did they move to the EU?

02:35:05.000 I think it was for financial reasons.

02:35:09.000 They had to start from scratch, digging the tunnel and so forth.

02:35:13.000 The one in...

02:35:15.000 There was already an existing tunnel from a previous electron-positron collider already in existence in Switzerland.

02:35:22.000 So they scrapped that machine, took out all of its works, and used the same tunnel.

02:35:29.000 So that saved quite a lot of money.

02:35:32.000 But they're using the exact same superconducting magnets built by Fermilab.

02:35:39.000 That's one of the reasons why Fermilab is named as one of the defendants, and that's what gives the U.S.

02:35:44.000 Court's jurisdiction over the case.

02:35:48.000 But back to the colliders, by colliding these beams head-on into each other, you are able to generate far more energy available for particle production, and they are hoping to create new kinds of particles.

02:36:00.000 It's sometimes called the God Machine, because one of the particles that they are looking to create has been called the God particle, the Higgs boson.

02:36:10.000 There are other particles that they think they might be able to create.

02:36:14.000 Tell the listeners what a Higgs boson is.

02:36:16.000 It's a field theory that would ascribe the reason for all other particles having the property of mass.

02:36:28.000 And so they believe that there is a fundamental carrier for that field called the Higgs boson.

02:36:34.000 Now let's boil this down.

02:36:36.000 With primitive hundred year old equations, hundred year old ladies and gentlemen, they are able to make A-bombs with sixty-year-old equations are able to create hydrogen bombs and that is colliding particles with each other and so we bring this to another scale now not just firing particles into blocks of letter gold or whatever now they're accelerating an unknown into each other please continue but yes uh... the uh... 0.98

02:37:01.000 the lxc is going to accelerate lead atoms uh... and rather probably to each other head-on uh... much like two cars running into head up each other head-on It will cause them to stop right there in the center of the machine, relatively stationary relative to Earth.

02:37:18.000 And that's the problem.

02:37:20.000 In nature, when these high-energy particles come streaming in and hit the upper atmosphere, for example, anything new that's created keeps on going through the Earth at the speed of light.

02:37:31.000 and has a very, very short period of time transiting the Earth, about a quarter of a second.

02:37:37.000 And under the theories of some of these particles, for example, the micro-black hole, it takes a long while for them to start creating atoms, days, hours.

02:37:50.000 And by creating one that's at rest, it gives it that opportunity to do that.

02:37:57.000 It would be captured by Earth's gravity, it would remain in the Earth.

02:38:00.000 Let's explain.

02:38:01.000 We have high-mass particles being accelerated at each other.

02:38:04.000 They're going to be sitting there, able, with their own gravitational pull, to begin accruing mass.

02:38:10.000 Well, they would not so much from its own gravitational attraction accrete mass.

02:38:15.000 It would just be by physical contact, by touching something.

02:38:18.000 Anything it would touch would become part of it, become part of the black hole.

02:38:23.000 And so in nature, if they travel through the Earth and they touch a single atom in the process of doing that, it will capture that atom and then exit through the Earth and won't be done otherwise.

02:38:33.000 Because it's been accelerated naturally by the... It's going at the speed of light naturally.

02:38:39.000 Here, we're trying to create them at rest, not moving.

02:38:44.000 Now, does this tie into them, because again, I saw you back in the late 80s, early 90s, mid-90s, talking about this could make black holes back then, and others agreeing with you, other physicists, now they claim that they've made black holes, or is that a separate thing?

02:39:01.000 That, Rick, they've created something that has similar properties to a black hole.

02:39:08.000 But it wasn't a black hole, per se.

02:39:11.000 It was actually a quark-gluon plasma, which would be a precursor to a creation of a different kind of a particle called a strangelet.

02:39:18.000 And that's another possibility, that it could create strangelets by colliding the lead nuclei into each other.

02:39:25.000 That's something that doesn't occur in nature.

02:39:27.000 In nature, you have high-energy protons striking the Earth, And what this LHC machine will do is it will have high energy lead nuclei running into each other head on.

02:39:38.000 That just never happens at NATO.

02:39:40.000 Now, I'm just a novice here, but I've been reading over what other scientists and physicists are worried about.

02:39:44.000 What about it just creating new particles that react?

02:39:47.000 I mean, they say they don't know what it's going to make.

02:39:51.000 They continue to smash these into each other ad infinitum.

02:39:54.000 What about it creating... I mean, I know the Air Force is on record saying they've isolated antimatter, then they classified that.

02:40:01.000 Well, we don't know what other kinds of new particles that could be created.

02:40:05.000 You're absolutely correct.

02:40:08.000 You know, I put on my thinking cap and I came up with the idea that maybe it'll create a black hole.

02:40:12.000 This was confirmed by a number of other theorists who said, yes, this is not a far-fetched idea.

02:40:17.000 It might make a black hole. 0.87

02:40:18.000 We don't know that it will, but we don't know that it will.

02:40:20.000 Well, Hawking agreed with you, but he said it would fall apart.

02:40:23.000 Why does he say that?

02:40:25.000 Well, he's got a theory that quantum fluctuations in the vacuum would allow for a particle to fall into a micro black hole while the other one escapes, and that this could possibly allow them to evaporate.

02:40:41.000 And that's basically the safety review that was done previously for the LHC said, well, we don't have to worry about these micro black holes because we know they will evaporate.

02:40:52.000 Well, we don't know that they will evaporate.

02:40:54.000 That's a theory or an idea.

02:40:56.000 But Hawking has admitted that he's been wrong about theories before.

02:40:59.000 Yes, he has admitted that, and there are a number of theorists who believe that this theory is wrong, flat-out wrong.

02:41:05.000 Not just, you know, it's a nice idea, but it's flat-out wrong for a number of other reasons.

02:41:09.000 Whether it's wrong or not, I don't know that I can say for certain.

02:41:13.000 Well, tell us about a strangelet.

02:41:14.000 Tell us about a strangelet.

02:41:18.000 Okay, a strangelet is a kind of a particle that is one of the ones that they think they might be able to create.

02:41:25.000 When you slam these two atoms into each other, it creates what's called a quark-gluon plasma.

02:41:30.000 The protons and the neutrons are made out of quarks.

02:41:34.000 Up quarks and down quarks.

02:41:36.000 But when you put them together, they have about a thousand times more energy than the rest mass of the particle itself.

02:41:43.000 That allows it to create a lot more kinds of quarks.

02:41:47.000 Some of the kinds of quarks it would create would be strange quarks.

02:41:51.000 It's believed that these can then rearrange themselves and form a new kind of a nucleus, a new kind of atom, called a strangelet, that's made out of up, down, and strange quarks.

02:42:01.000 And this new kind of atom is more stable than a normal atom.

02:42:06.000 In other words, if it touches a normal atom, it will fuse with it, release energy, and become even larger and more stable.

02:42:13.000 This would allow for a chain reaction for it to continue to fuse with more and more atoms.

02:42:18.000 The process would first be very slow.

02:42:21.000 It might take decades for this to accumulate to the size of a pea.

02:42:25.000 But eventually, it too would fall to the center of the Earth because anything it touches, because part of it can't stop it from falling.

02:42:34.000 And so eventually it would grow larger and larger inside the center of the Earth and cause our planet to explode.

02:42:40.000 They might not even discover it.

02:42:42.000 It could form in the hundreds of miles of tunnels anywhere.

02:42:45.000 That's possible.

02:42:46.000 If it's neutral and charged when it's formed, we would never detect it.

02:42:50.000 Wow, wonderful.

02:42:52.000 And the problem is, I've been reading all weekend over the equations, what other physicists are saying, they agree with you and come up with even more horrible scenarios.

02:43:00.000 And it seems that the more tests they do, numbering in the thousands per collider, it just starts increasing the probability that something's going to happen.

02:43:09.000 Well, that's our concern, is that there has been no refutation of these theories.

02:43:15.000 It's basically a plain Russian roulette.

02:43:19.000 And we don't know how many chambers there are.

02:43:21.000 How many bullets we're putting in the chambers?

02:43:26.000 It's hoping that nothing goes wrong while we look for more information about the universe.

02:43:35.000 You know, that's why it's called the God Machine, because these people believe that this won't answer all of their questions.

02:43:40.000 Well, it will answer a few questions, and some questions.

02:43:44.000 It certainly won't answer all the other questions other scientists are working on.

02:43:48.000 Well I say this, it's too dangerous in the future of the species.

02:43:51.000 I mean if they want to develop some super expensive program in the future and take it out to the asteroid belt or something, which still I know wouldn't make us safe, but I mean they just don't need to be doing this on the planet.

02:44:02.000 You've got the same thing with GMO and these DNA guns randomly firing into things already giving rise to super viruses.

02:44:10.000 They've got prehistoric viruses now. 0.97

02:44:12.000 I've had Nobel Prize winners on about this coming out and they just cover it up quietly.

02:44:16.000 And what is it about the scientific community that they're just pell-mell, wildly just playing God, like sticking their you-know-what's in light sockets?

02:44:26.000 Well, to a certain degree.

02:44:28.000 That's one of the reasons we filed one of the affidavits was from a psychologist who actually has a background in biochemistry and astrophysics.

02:44:38.000 But he's also professionally a psychologist.

02:44:41.000 And he's analyzed the psychology of it.

02:44:43.000 It's a desire, in large part, not only just to find knowledge, it's a desire for selfishness to find out this knowledge for yourself.

02:44:50.000 It's gambling!

02:44:51.000 And willing to risk other people's lives to do it.

02:44:55.000 Yeah, I hadn't read his findings, but it's power mad, playing God, control freak gambling.

02:45:01.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:45:04.000 And that's why we filed the suit, and that's why we want to have a thorough safety study that we can then evaluate, criticize, and take back to the court and say, here are the other flaws we found in this safety study.

02:45:16.000 Well, and here's the problem.

02:45:17.000 If you don't stop them now, it'll be bigger and bigger and bigger colliders, and more and more energy, and then there are a lot of other weird subatomic systems too, aren't there?

02:45:26.000 There are already plans on the drawing board for even larger colliders.

02:45:29.000 They aren't even satisfied.

02:45:31.000 You know, they figure, well, we won't find everything we need to know.

02:45:33.000 We need to make a bigger one.

02:45:35.000 So, yes, there are already plans for additional colliders and an international linear collider and so forth.

02:45:43.000 Well, I love technology and I want us to go to space and I believe a lot of money should be spent on it.

02:45:48.000 The problem is we have this, our main sciences were taken over by eugenicists 100 years ago. 1.00

02:45:53.000 They have this elitist attitude.

02:45:54.000 They're in control now. 1.00

02:45:56.000 And frankly, they're nuts. 0.99

02:45:57.000 I mean, you study the mainline elite. 1.00

02:45:59.000 They are nuttier than a fruitcake.

02:46:02.000 And I know you've been around them.

02:46:05.000 I mean, I just don't understand why they're endangering everything humanity has built just crazily.

02:46:12.000 I mean, again, look at Chernobyl.

02:46:14.000 Look at the atomic bomb.

02:46:15.000 That is ancient stuff, comparatively.

02:46:18.000 And our technology is doubling every few years.

02:46:20.000 Where do you see this going?

02:46:22.000 Well, I don't want to necessarily criticize these people as being bad scientists in that sense.

02:46:29.000 I think that they were well-intentioned, but misguided.

02:46:32.000 They had a certain belief system, and as that's been shown to be faulty, they are hesitant to depart from that belief system.

02:46:41.000 That's why we have to nudge them with this lawsuit. 0.99

02:46:44.000 It is arrogant to ignore all these other physicists and people.

02:46:49.000 It is very arrogant to say that we're right and you're wrong when I have every bit as much, if not more, academic background than do they.

02:46:57.000 Well, let's talk about some of the other prestigious physicists There's a big list of them I have.

02:47:04.000 And, you know, the top people in the Royal Academy and others, you know, 20 years ago saying they were worried about these accelerators.

02:47:12.000 Well, I haven't necessarily looked through the list as to who all has come out saying that they don't think it's a good idea.

02:47:22.000 And like you said, this was 20 years ago, so they may have changed their views or they may have passed away and so forth.

02:47:29.000 I have to go with the people here and now who are able to provide.

02:47:33.000 Yeah, talk about them.

02:47:34.000 I've been speaking with physicists in Germany.

02:47:37.000 Who have excellent academic background, credentials in Cosmic Radiation Physics, Astrophysics, who share the same concerns.

02:47:43.000 What I found is that, generally speaking, nobody really wants to stick their neck out and go against a gargantuan institution like CERN.

02:47:54.000 Because it's the academic kiss of death, so to speak, if you do that publicly.

02:48:00.000 Yet, privately, I've had a number of communications from a large number of people saying, yes, we really support what you're doing.

02:48:06.000 So that's what keeps me going.

02:48:07.000 I was grateful to be able to get seven of us to file affidavits in support of this.

02:48:14.000 Tell me about your colleague who is working on this with you.

02:48:17.000 Dr. Sancho is a professor, formerly a professor in Spain, I believe at the University of Barcelona.

02:48:27.000 He works in systems science, which is trying to integrate the fields of physics and biology.

02:48:35.000 And he is extremely well-read in theoretical physics, and he independently, I suppose, came up with these concerns regarding the collider.

02:48:48.000 And when he started reading about me on a number of blogs I posted on the Internet, he got in touch with me a couple years ago, and we started communicating extensively about this.

02:48:59.000 Yeah, I want to get him on and get his take on things.

02:49:02.000 He speaks pretty good English, doesn't he?

02:49:04.000 Fairly good English.

02:49:05.000 He has a slight accent.

02:49:06.000 He's from Spain.

02:49:08.000 I could care less, but we just want to have him on the show, so hopefully I can get his number from you.

02:49:12.000 Yeah, I can get you his number.

02:49:15.000 Fantastic, because I want to get him on with you in the near future for a full hour.

02:49:22.000 Other concerns, other facets that people should know about, sir?

02:49:27.000 Yeah, a couple of things.

02:49:30.000 Initially, when this issue first came up in 1999, I had that letter to Scientific American, and I raised the prospect that it might be able to create micro black holes, but I really didn't know, and I wanted to get some additional input from other people.

02:49:45.000 And it was sort of roundly, say, this guy's a nut for saying that it might create a micro black hole.

02:49:50.000 That's impossible.

02:49:51.000 We know from our knowledge of physics that this can't happen, and so forth.

02:49:55.000 Well, within two or three years, a number of theoretical papers came out saying that, yes, indeed, under some conditions of physics, this might well happen, that you might be able to create a micro black hole.

02:50:05.000 And at that point, they turned around and said, well, we're going to try to create micro black holes.

02:50:09.000 This will be some interesting physics.

02:50:13.000 So your question spurred them trying to make these?

02:50:16.000 Yes, it turns out that it did.

02:50:19.000 Well, it spurred out a justification for what they were doing.

02:50:23.000 It was already underway, but they started using this as a justification to continue their funding.

02:50:29.000 Stay there.

02:50:30.000 Final segment.

02:50:30.000 I want to hear more about this.

02:50:31.000 I mean, that's these nuts.

02:50:33.000 Oh, you can make black holes.

02:50:35.000 Let's do it.

02:50:36.000 Oh, yes.

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02:53:47.000 We're going to get Mr. Wagner's colleague, Mr. Sancho, on in the next few weeks.

02:54:01.000 We'll get both of them back up for a full hour to explore this in a deeper way.

02:54:07.000 I just want to make the point that about half the, this is mainstream news, half the people working on the A-bomb, the physicists thought it would ignite the atmosphere, but they went ahead with it.

02:54:20.000 Now, they weren't right, but the point is that even though they thought it would ignite the atmosphere and burn the surface of the Earth, They still did it.

02:54:29.000 And we know they blew holes in the ozone layer with the hydrogen bombs they detonated. 0.86

02:54:32.000 They detonated hundreds in the high and low atmosphere.

02:54:36.000 Our own government did.

02:54:39.000 Going back to Walter L. Wagner, I want to give out the website.

02:54:43.000 It's got a lot of documentation, a lot of information on it.

02:54:47.000 Give that out, please, sir.

02:54:48.000 Yeah, that's LHCdefense.org.

02:54:53.000 That's L as in Larry, H as in Harry, C as in Charlie.

02:54:57.000 Defense, D-E-F-E-N-S-E.org.

02:55:01.000 And that stands for Large Hadron Collider.

02:55:04.000 Absolutely.

02:55:05.000 Absolutely so.

02:55:06.000 So, Al.

02:55:07.000 LHCDefense.org.

02:55:09.000 Okay, we've got a few minutes left.

02:55:11.000 Other things that the equations and theories show that this could potentially form?

02:55:18.000 Yeah, some people think it might create a magnetic monopole, and that might, thereafter, engage in a catalyzing the protons of our normal atoms and create, converting all of matter into some other kind of engage in a catalyzing the protons of our normal atoms and I don't know too much about that theory.

02:55:40.000 There's another theory out there that it could cause a collapse or a penetration of an energy barrier between our universe and what's called a center space universe that underlies our universe.

02:55:52.000 highly theoretical but but but they predicted that when probes flew over Saturn that those dimensions would manifest in a hexagon on its ice cap and it did well I don't know that they predicted that that's what occurred but they certainly they do have observed that that hexagon up there is very unusual pattern I'm very much in favor of all kinds of science and scientific

02:56:18.000 I really want to see, we've got a satellite launch coming up in May called the GLAST, G-L-A-S-T satellite.

02:56:25.000 It's going to have the potential for being able to search for what's called Hawking Radiation.

02:56:31.000 It might be able to help answer some of the questions that need to be answered first before we operate the LHC.

02:56:36.000 There's a new cosmic ray detector in Argentina called the TIER-ALGER, A-U-G-E-R.

02:56:43.000 Uh, and it came online a couple years ago.

02:56:46.000 It's purely passive, like any observatory.

02:56:50.000 Here in Hawaii, we have lots of observatories on our mountain, Mount Akea, for observing the universe.

02:56:56.000 Very much in favor of acquiring more knowledge and information for us, but it has to be done in a safe manner.

02:57:03.000 All right, up on InfoWars.com we have a link to your website.

02:57:07.000 I hope people will support what you're doing.

02:57:09.000 Any news on how effective you'll be in blocking them, firing this up?

02:57:15.000 Well, it's always speculative when you take something before a judge.

02:57:20.000 I believe, though, that with the news media attention this is drawing, and the fact that they have not come out with this most recent safety study.

02:57:28.000 They promised us a safety study by January 1.

02:57:32.000 They didn't deliver.

02:57:33.000 On January 31, I emailed them.

02:57:36.000 They sent me an email back saying they would be available by the end of February.

02:57:41.000 They didn't deliver.

02:57:43.000 So now they're way behind the gun on this, and I think the reason they were not delivered is they recognize that there are some fundamental flaws, and they haven't been able to come up with a way around it yet.

02:57:54.000 So you're spurring a real debate regardless inside the institution?

02:57:57.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:57:59.000 And they're going to, because they don't have that out, I think the judge is going to grant a TRO.

02:58:06.000 Alright, we really appreciate you coming on.

02:58:10.000 Dr. Wagner, we'll talk to you again in the near future and your colleague.

02:58:12.000 I hope folks visit the website up on InfoWars.com right now.

02:58:17.000 Okay, Alex, thanks for speaking with you.

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Alex Jones Show - April 01, 2008

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