Alex Jones Show - 20080408_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 But let's say tomorrow the law stated that we had to use torture.

00:00:08.000 Thank you.

00:00:09.000 Thank you.

00:00:10.000 Don't be absurd.

00:00:11.000 Why, it used to be the law could be the law again.

00:00:13.000 It's only a matter of principle.

00:00:15.000 Then you would use torture if the law said so.

00:00:18.000 You're using an extreme example.

00:00:20.000 Alright then, what's your limit?

00:00:22.000 How much injustice would you stand for to satisfy the people we work for?

00:00:25.000 Good evening, I... would like to report on the state of our war against the American people.

00:00:34.000 Counting a sustained campaign to crack down on every American and every person of every faith and every nation and to bring them to justice.

00:00:46.000 All missions are being executed according to plan without warning or provocation.

00:00:55.000 Americans are being swept up in an international dragnet.

00:00:59.000 Thousands of FBI agents are on the trail of other citizens.

00:01:04.000 Everything to do with hate and evil and murder and prejudice.

00:01:08.000 America's strong.

00:01:09.000 Federal agents!

00:01:10.000 We are armed!

00:01:12.000 What would you do if you knew all of the things we knew?

00:01:17.000 Would you stand up for truth?

00:01:19.000 Or would you turn away, too?

00:01:23.000 And then what if you saw all of the things that's wrong?

00:01:28.000 Would you stand tall and strong?

00:01:34.000 And I stood up for you!

00:01:36.000 Didn't I?

00:01:37.000 Perhaps someday I could help you.

00:01:39.000 Someday I could tell you the nature of evil.

00:01:41.000 No, man.

00:01:42.000 Because if I did, then I'd be out of a job.

00:01:45.000 Let's go to work.

00:01:49.000 I see a message from the government like every day. 0.99

00:01:56.000 I watch it and listen and call them all suckers. 0.93

00:01:59.000 They wanted me about Osama or whatever. 0.97

00:02:01.000 Picture me buying this scam.

00:02:03.000 I said never. 0.98

00:02:04.000 You in tune to a hard truth, soldiers spittin' I stay committed, give a shit if I lose commission It's all a part of fightin' devil state mind control And all about the battle for your body, mind and soul And now I'm hopin' you don't close your mind so they shape ya Don't forget they made us slaves, gave us slaves and raped us Another push season, mean another war for profit All in secret so the public never fit to stop it The Illuminati, triple six, all connected Stole a vote, stay control the race and take elections What would you do? 0.89

00:02:32.000 That's the way the courtroom game is played around here, isn't it, Counselor?

00:02:42.000 It's not the way I play.

00:02:44.000 Let me tell you something, Al.

00:02:46.000 Half the time we don't know which side the law is on.

00:02:48.000 That's the way the wheels of justice turn in this town.

00:02:51.000 And they're the only wheels we got.

00:02:52.000 If you'll excuse me, I got some police work to do.

00:02:56.000 Now ask yourself, who's the one with the most to gain?

00:02:59.000 4-9-11 must be, just couldn't stand his name.

00:03:02.000 Now even now, he's waving flags like they lost their mind.

00:03:05.000 Everybody got opinions, but don't know the time.

00:03:07.000 Cause America's been took, it's plain to see.

00:03:10.000 The oldest trick in the book is make an enemy.

00:03:12.000 A phony evil so the government can do its dirt.

00:03:15.000 And take away your freedom, lock and load, get in search.

00:03:17.000 Ain't nothing changed, but more colored people locked in prison. 1.00

00:03:20.000 These pigs still beat us, but it seems we forgetting. 0.99

00:03:23.000 But I remember 4 September, how these devils do it. 0.99

00:03:25.000 Giuliani, ask Diallo how he doing We in the streets, holla jail to the thief Follow f**ks, waving flags, bring these dragons to their knees Oil, blood, money, make these killers ride cold Suspicious suicide, people dying never told It's all a part of playing God, so you think we need them While Ben Ashcroft, take away your rights to freedom Bear witness to the sickness of these dictators Hope you understand the time, brother, cause it's major Haven't you ever had any doubts about enforcing unjust laws? 0.97

00:03:54.000 It's not for us to judge the law, but to enforce it.

00:03:57.000 Yes, I knew you would say that.

00:03:59.000 You never experienced that, right?

00:04:03.000 You never felt that you were an instrument?

00:04:05.000 That you were sort of an executor looking after the interests of whomever happens to be in power?

00:04:09.000 So now you asking why my records always come the same?

00:04:12.000 Keep it real, ain't no fillers blingin'. 0.96

00:04:15.000 My eyes seen the gory of the coming of the beast.

00:04:17.000 So every story, every word, I'm saying peace.

00:04:20.000 See you can witness the Illuminati body count.

00:04:23.000 Don't be surprised, these is devils that I'm talking bout.

00:04:25.000 You think a couple thousand lies mean the killers? 0.99

00:04:28.000 Nigga, I swear to God, we the ones. 0.67

00:04:30.000 Ain't no villain, or any other word to think to demonize a country.

00:04:33.000 Ain't no terror threat unless approval rating's slumping.

00:04:36.000 So I'ma say it for the record, we the ones that planned it.

00:04:38.000 Ain't no other country took apart or had their hand in.

00:04:41.000 Just a way to keep you scary so you think you need them.

00:04:44.000 Praising Bush while that killer take away your freedom.

00:04:46.000 How many of us got discovered but ignore the symptoms?

00:04:49.000 I'm talkin' loud but ain't nobody standin' And with the Fourth Amendment gone, I was on the first That's why I'm spittin' cyanide each and every verse I see the Carlisle Group and Harris Bank accounts I see them plead the fifth each and every session now And while white stag burns, see the public buy it I see the profile and see the media's compliance Wars paid for business, see the vicious make a savior Hope you understand the time, brother, cause it's major What would you do with you?

00:05:16.000 Things we do.

00:05:17.000 Would you stand up for truth?

00:05:19.000 Or would you turn away to?

00:05:22.000 What if you tell?

00:05:25.000 All of the things that's wrong.

00:05:28.000 Would you stand tall and strong?

00:05:30.000 Or would you.

00:05:31.000 Welcome, my friends. my friends.

00:05:51.000 Welcome and thank you for joining us on this eighth day of April.

00:05:56.000 We're going to be live here now for the next two hours.

00:06:02.000 That's right, I've decided to go ahead and do a fifth hour today till 4pm Central Time because I was going to be in studio already for like 30-45 minutes doing national out of London British radio, so we're going to do a simulcast with them in the next hour.

00:06:21.000 A lot of news we're going to be covering, like the one here that I only got to briefly in the last hour.

00:06:27.000 Rabbi.

00:06:28.000 Second most powerful rabbi in Israel.

00:06:31.000 Life of one yeshiva boy worth more than 1,000 Arabs.

00:06:37.000 Charlton Heston and some of his pro-gun control activities.

00:06:40.000 We might as well just be honest about this, but I still defend the guy because he talked about how he was conned earlier in life.

00:06:46.000 Also, Homeland Spy Satellite Plan ignores Constitution.

00:06:51.000 And we've got some economic news that I'm going to be getting into today as well.

00:06:58.000 A Australian man was sentenced to three years in prison for pointing a tiny pin light, hand light, laser at a police helicopter.

00:07:06.000 So this is all part of the police state.

00:07:08.000 But as promised, we're going to go to your call.

00:07:11.000 Stan and Susan were left over at the end of the Genesis Show, and so now we're going to be flipping over to you right now.

00:07:18.000 I want to tell you, later in the week, Thursday or Friday, we're going to air 10-15 Minutes Sneak Peek.

00:07:23.000 First of my new JFK film here.

00:07:26.000 The next week I'm going to give you a sneak peek of my latest 9-11 film that's nearing completion.

00:07:31.000 And I have a secret 9-11 film I've been working on for a while that will also be coming out by the end of the year, but I'm not going to talk about that right now.

00:07:40.000 But I'll just let folks know that for those of you that have wanted to hear more about the Israeli angle, there's quite a bit of that in there.

00:07:48.000 But there's some other information in there as well.

00:07:52.000 Everyone just wants me to go all the way to the edge so they kill me.

00:07:55.000 And I guess I've got to satisfy you or something.

00:07:59.000 But we'll be covering it all on the show today.

00:08:06.000 The number to join us is 512-646-5400.

00:08:10.000 And we also have another camera in here.

00:08:15.000 Usually we're going to use that camera on the guest that'll be sitting right over there.

00:08:20.000 We're going to start having guests at least every week.

00:08:22.000 We normally do anyways in studio and we'll hold them over into the fourth hour or have them just in the fourth hour and just a lot more coming up.

00:08:30.000 So we are all very, very excited about this.

00:08:37.000 See, now you have the document cam, you can see me drinking tea.

00:08:42.000 My only vice I have left is a cup of coffee in the morning and a cup of tea in the afternoon.

00:08:48.000 I guess it's my red coat roots. 0.94

00:08:51.000 Okay, I'm going to quit screwing around.

00:08:58.000 You're tuned in to hear information, and we're certainly going to do that.

00:09:02.000 Let's go ahead and first go to Stan, and then we'll go to Susan, and then we'll go to everybody else.

00:09:09.000 Stan, you're on the air from Colorado.

00:09:11.000 Or Steve, excuse me.

00:09:12.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

00:09:14.000 Oh, Susan's first.

00:09:14.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:09:15.000 Susan! 0.81

00:09:16.000 New phone system.

00:09:17.000 In Texas.

00:09:18.000 You're on the air.

00:09:19.000 Hey, there's been something about the North American Union that I've been wanting to call you about.

00:09:23.000 Today turned out to be a really good day to do it because of the article that's in the New York Times.

00:09:28.000 I think one of the reasons that they want to dissolve the borders is, I believe, the American oil industry wants to recapture the Mexican oil industry.

00:09:36.000 They were kicked out of Mexico in 1938, when Mexico nationalized their oil industry, and I've never heard anybody really talk about this.

00:09:45.000 One of the comments that is in the paper is, in Mexico, it's a symbol of sovereignty and nationalism, and I have a feeling that the Reconquista people, if they really knew more about this, they would be You know, once again waking up to how they're being used.

00:10:02.000 Well, I agree with you.

00:10:03.000 It's not even the U.S.

00:10:04.000 oil industry, it's the globalists are completely merged with the Mexican billionaires. 0.92

00:10:09.000 The richest man in the Americas now is not Bill Gates.

00:10:12.000 Last year he was listed as a Mexican.

00:10:15.000 It's the perfect system of slaves and the ruling elite. 0.81

00:10:17.000 And they're going to use their slaves down there to overrun and break down the borders, the sovereignty, the wages here. 0.73

00:10:23.000 That's why Rob Allen and Co.

00:10:24.000 three years ago, it came out in the Dallas Morning News, they were going to finance demonstrations nationwide, and that's what you saw.

00:10:30.000 Thank God it backfired.

00:10:31.000 They wouldn't take the free American flags out of the backs of Rob Allen and Co.

00:10:35.000 paid-for trucks.

00:10:36.000 American flags, they brought their own Mexican flags, so it blew up in everybody's face on that side. 0.95

00:10:42.000 Another issue I would just like to remind listeners about is AIDS as a bioweapon. 0.96

00:10:48.000 Dr. Leonard Horrell with his book, Emerging Viruses, 500 pages of incredible detail.

00:10:54.000 Every study that he dug up from the National Cancer Institute. 0.99

00:10:58.000 Oh, it's all Navy programs, congressional programs, an autoimmune weapon to kill the blacks. 1.00

00:11:05.000 And anybody who doubts that, if they'll read that book, there will be no doubt. 0.93

00:11:09.000 Well, you can find a lot of those documents online, too.

00:11:12.000 Good.

00:11:12.000 Absolutely.

00:11:13.000 Anything else?

00:11:13.000 That'll do it for today.

00:11:15.000 Good to hear from you.

00:11:15.000 Thanks.

00:11:16.000 I really appreciate you holding to tell us that.

00:11:18.000 Take care.

00:11:19.000 Thank you.

00:11:20.000 Rhett in Alabama, you're on the air.

00:11:22.000 Go ahead.

00:11:23.000 Hi, Alex.

00:11:24.000 I've got a short story to preface my point for calling.

00:11:26.000 It's kind of lengthy, but I'll try and keep it quick.

00:11:28.000 The other day, when I was studying, my friend came in.

00:11:31.000 And I had you playing in the background, and you were talking about Ted Turner and his eugenics rant.

00:11:37.000 And my friend says, what's this?

00:11:39.000 And I turned you down, and I started telling him about it, and I went off on this tirade.

00:11:43.000 And by the time I'm done, I was just so overloaded with information.

00:11:47.000 He was thinking that Ted Turner was the head of some crazy conspiracy to wipe out a huge population on the planet, which, you know, wasn't the point that I tried to make at all.

00:11:56.000 So I realized that we have a problem.

00:11:58.000 When you're trying to wake somebody up to, you know, what's really going on in the world, we lack a lot of efficiency, you know, in informing the people because we don't have a predetermined strategy.

00:12:07.000 So I figured a solution to this, right?

00:12:10.000 If we sit down, you know, during the day and we think up, you know, two, three arguments that we can have, you know, pre-prepared to tell someone when you're trying to wake them up, then I think we'll have a greater success rate in, you know, allowing them to see, you know, 9-11, the New World Order, the eugenics front. 0.97

00:12:27.000 Rhett, I think it's six one way, half a dozen another.

00:12:30.000 I think it's more confidence that's important because everybody goes off as someone telling them something in a confident way, and that's the key to sales, and then giving them documents and saying, hey, there's a lot of kooky conspiracy people, but...

00:12:43.000 But there's also a lot of stuff that's true.

00:12:45.000 You ought to check into what's true.

00:12:46.000 Do you know about eugenics?

00:12:48.000 Do you know about Hitler?

00:12:49.000 And say, will he learn that?

00:12:49.000 I completely agree.

00:12:51.000 I completely agree.

00:12:52.000 But also, let me just add, that it's six one way, half does the other.

00:12:56.000 Some people, it's effective to be smooth about it and slow. 0.98

00:12:59.000 Others, it's better to hit them upside the head with a psychological two-by-four. 0.69

00:13:04.000 And I think I've been the most effective out there of any one person fighting the New World Order. 0.62

00:13:08.000 I mean, that's what everybody says, and I think that's really true, which is quite a weight on me, because I'm not that good at this, but I think it is because I am aggressive and in your face, and people also can resonate in their guts, they know I'm telling the truth, and so they resonate.

00:13:22.000 My great frustration is I seem to wake up so many people, You're a huge rallying point for everybody.

00:13:28.000 order, and then they run off and get into all the kooky, weird groups that are full of bull.

00:13:32.000 Right, right, right.

00:13:33.000 And so away, I'm actually doing a lot of bad, and I used to ignore it.

00:13:36.000 No, no, no.

00:13:36.000 You're a huge rallying point for everybody.

00:13:39.000 I mean, there's no group, the Alex Jones audience, you know, we all look to you as a flag or a standard, you know.

00:13:45.000 You're the flag bearer behind all of this.

00:13:47.000 I better do a good job, that's all I can say.

00:13:50.000 Anyway, so I made a small promotion for the most effective way, I studied marketing, the most effective way to wake people up.

00:13:58.000 If we have a few predetermined, you know, not arguments, but you know, speeches we can give to someone, you know, just an everyday conversation.

00:14:06.000 Okay, have that ready.

00:14:07.000 Know your evidence.

00:14:08.000 Know what you can point them out to.

00:14:10.000 Say, you know, I can send you this on YouTube or I can send you Well, I agree with you and I really appreciate you calling into the show today, Rhett.

00:14:15.000 not anything too long, maybe five, ten minutes, just don't overload them.

00:14:19.000 Get their information and then stay in contact with them.

00:14:23.000 We really have to go out of our way here, really put an effort into waking people up to this global agenda that's threatening America.

00:14:30.000 Well, I agree with you and I really appreciate you calling into the show today, Rhett.

00:14:37.000 Now let's go ahead and talk to William in Texas.

00:14:40.000 Alex, thanks for taking my call.

00:14:43.000 I tell you, you woke me up a number of years ago.

00:14:47.000 Dealing with that second amendment rights, I wanted to find out what your opinion is on the license to carry, whether you think that would be a good idea for an individual.

00:14:57.000 And one other quick thing, and I'll get out of your way here on that, is that excerpt book, Brave New World Revisited, is a really good overview of some of the information on the New World Order How long it's been going on.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, Aldous Huxley wrote Brave New World in 33, or he wrote it in 32, published 32, from memory, if that serves.

00:15:19.000 And then he wrote Revisited in the 50s, right?

00:15:22.000 Absolutely.

00:15:23.000 Yeah, I read both years ago.

00:15:24.000 I need to read them again, but Huxley, before he died, and by the way, some of those clips are in Endgame, but on the website we put the whole hour-long speech at Berkeley, two months before he died.

00:15:36.000 And he came out and eloquently laid out, and he's from one of the most elite families in England, one of the wealthiest, that no, he wrote this in 33 because this is what they were planning to do and that the science then knew about cloning people to be a slave class and dumbing down with injections and poisons in the water of the subclasses. 0.76

00:15:54.000 I mean, that was written in 33.

00:15:56.000 And so then, you know, those guys were in power a hundred years ago.

00:16:00.000 Fifty years ago, they're in power today.

00:16:04.000 So go ahead, tell us about Brave New World Revisited.

00:16:06.000 Well, it gives a short synopsis on the Brave New World, the first issue and that, but what it does, it really gives you a perspective as to where they were, how much information was available at that time, and where they're coming from, and how we can better have an idea of what's already in place way back even at that time frame.

00:16:27.000 Well, you can see how the architects of the New World Order, as they call themselves, the social engineers, just keep building on the same plans, and they adjust a little, but it's a great work of art to them.

00:16:38.000 It's like a director, Ridley Scott, making Blade Runner.

00:16:42.000 I mean, they're crafting it.

00:16:45.000 This is a labor of dark love that they wrought, and I appreciate your call.

00:16:50.000 Excellent point, sir.

00:16:51.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

00:16:52.000 You bet.

00:16:53.000 Oh, you wanted my take on The concealed carry?

00:16:57.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:16:58.000 Well, let me just let you go and I'll try to give you my take on it.

00:17:01.000 I mean, do you want to give us your take on it first?

00:17:03.000 Well, I'm just, it's one of these things I've been considering, but I'm just a little leery with all that fingerprinting and information that they have, you know, available.

00:17:12.000 Yeah, it's a gun registration is what it is.

00:17:15.000 Exactly.

00:17:16.000 Okay, let me comment on it.

00:17:17.000 Thank you so much.

00:17:18.000 You bet, thank you.

00:17:19.000 I am against the concealed carry.

00:17:21.000 I think it's bad.

00:17:23.000 If you look at Vermont, or you look at Arizona, where they have just right to carry whatever you want.

00:17:31.000 Have the gun, have it concealed, not concealed, wear it in plain view.

00:17:35.000 Now it goes back to Anglo-Saxon common law that all free men had arms.

00:17:41.000 The symbol of being free, not being a slave, was you had arms.

00:17:44.000 Swords, and then going back 600 years ago, handguns, rifles, blunderbuss, things of that nature.

00:17:52.000 And so But the law was you were an assassin or a thief if you hid your arms.

00:18:01.000 And so it was against Anglo-Saxon common law that was Germanic and Norman and Celtic law mixed together with a smattering of Mosaic law, because that had been Christianized by then.

00:18:16.000 But unusually enough, the Mosaic or Jewish law It was very similar to the Anglo-Saxon, which is kind of an ancient common law.

00:18:27.000 Tribes all over the world had similar laws.

00:18:29.000 In an African village 5,000 years ago, the men all could have arms, from the other tribe and from animals.

00:18:39.000 That's how you could have the Jewish law the same as the Germanic law, very similar.

00:18:44.000 So that's where we get the idea in our law that you can't have a concealed gun.

00:18:51.000 So that's why the government comes in and tricks you and says, oh, you've got to get a permit for a concealed carry.

00:18:57.000 Because under common law and under the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Federalist Papers, Second Amendment, you can have rifles, handguns, whatever, you just can't conceal them.

00:19:07.000 So a license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.

00:19:14.000 It is a permission slip.

00:19:15.000 Like, I have a hunting license to hunt in the king's land.

00:19:18.000 90 plus percent of the land in England or France, you know, feudal Europe, would be off limits to the serfs as a control mechanism, but sometimes the king would want food brought into his table or into his lord's table, and they'd say, okay, here is a license on leather for two bucks, or five rabbits, or six pheasants.

00:19:38.000 And then you were the, you know, the people that lived in government housing in and around the local lords who served them.

00:19:45.000 They were the uppities.

00:19:47.000 They got to, you know, go out and they got to eat and they got to live and they got to do okay.

00:19:52.000 But the little serfs living out, you know, who had to give 25% of all their grain or whatever they produced each year as a tax, they were kept at a subsistence level and were never allowed to enjoy meat.

00:20:05.000 Okay?

00:20:07.000 So it's all a control mechanism, so it's a trick.

00:20:10.000 Whereas, except in a few states like Illinois, New York, a few others, where you can't have the guns openly, they come into states... See, in New York, 60 plus years ago, they came in and said, oh, just get a permit to have a gun, and it was $5, and you know, and they did, and then suddenly, oh, we don't give those permits anymore.

00:20:26.000 They incrementally made it harder and harder.

00:20:29.000 So it's habitualizing us to slavery.

00:20:30.000 They come into Florida, they come into Texas, they come into all these great states, what, thirty-something of them now, and they get everybody used to having a license, having a license.

00:20:39.000 And so the most pro-gun people, who are apt to have a big collection, a big arsenal, now you're registered, fingerprinted, you're in the system, you've got to tell the cop you've got a gun when they come up.

00:20:49.000 You're a prisoner now.

00:20:51.000 You have gone into probation, and you think you've gotten some special right.

00:20:56.000 Because the police state is so bad in most of these states, and because cops will still arrest you even when you're not breaking a gun law, they'll say it's their discretion, it's not a bad thing if you're a business owner or carry a lot of money or be in threats to have the concealed carry just so you don't get into trouble with these people.

00:21:11.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:21:12.000 I know people who have concealed carries that have accidentally walked on the UT campus.

00:21:16.000 I mean, they got a fanny pack and they walk ten feet on the UT campus.

00:21:19.000 Those guys are watching, they run over to a computer guy, no criminal record, worth millions of dollars I know.

00:21:24.000 Great salt of the earth guy, you know, volunteers at charities, great family, clean cut.

00:21:30.000 They run over and say, what's in that fanny pack?

00:21:32.000 And he says, well, concealed carry.

00:21:33.000 I'm just walking over here to me.

00:21:35.000 Boom! 0.99

00:21:35.000 Get up against the wall. 0.99

00:21:36.000 His life over.

00:21:37.000 Felonies, convictions, everything.

00:21:39.000 And they're just waiting with all these zones you can't go into.

00:21:43.000 I am for the Vermont concealed carry, or carry law, where they just say, hey, it's in the constitution of the state, it's in the federal constitution, you can carry a gun.

00:21:52.000 Like, take Texas, it's all being under common law attack.

00:21:55.000 You put a rifle up in your, just ten years ago you still saw this, up in your truck, and you drive down the road, even in the country, cops are going to pull you over.

00:22:06.000 And they'll search you and put guns to your head and freak out and ask why you got it.

00:22:09.000 Are you threatening people? 0.89

00:22:10.000 Because there's so many cowards driving around who think guns are illegal because they watch TV shows set in New York or L.A.

00:22:16.000 or Chicago.

00:22:17.000 They think the dramas are real where they pull somebody over and they've got a gun.

00:22:19.000 They go to jail.

00:22:20.000 The cops freak out.

00:22:21.000 They watch that.

00:22:22.000 Or a carpet cleaner's in your house and they see a gun case, they think it's illegal to call the cops on you.

00:22:26.000 Cops still arrive and show up, usually cook something up and take you to jail.

00:22:30.000 Billboards everywhere saying, report illegal guns, picture of a revolver.

00:22:33.000 Everybody then thinks revolvers are illegal.

00:22:35.000 See, it's a good question.

00:22:37.000 It's enough to spend five minutes covering it and I promise to go to calls.

00:22:40.000 So, it is, concealed carry is very bad.

00:22:45.000 Gun dealers get real mad at me when I say, hey, you know that NIC system's a registration.

00:22:50.000 Says rifle, or long gun, shotgun.

00:22:53.000 Where you got it?

00:22:55.000 Who you are?

00:22:57.000 Federal database.

00:22:58.000 Now they're going to put misdemeanors and any kind of mental issue in there.

00:23:01.000 No judge, no jury, no nothing. 0.99

00:23:03.000 They'll go, shut up! 0.99

00:23:04.000 Don't talk about that on your radio show! 0.99

00:23:06.000 It cuts back on sales!

00:23:08.000 Well if you just stop bending over to all this, and if you would just mobilize gun owners at the state level, and stop sitting there sucking your thumb, we could turn this around.

00:23:16.000 I'm going to talk about that before the hour ends.

00:23:19.000 Let's keep banging through the calls.

00:23:21.000 Ned, Ned in New York, you're on the air.

00:23:24.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

00:23:26.000 Good.

00:23:28.000 Um, well gosh, I agree with you on so many things, I really don't know where to go.

00:23:34.000 I kind of wanted to talk about energy solutions, I figured.

00:23:37.000 Go ahead.

00:23:39.000 Um, well let's see, I saw you had the air tornado sponsoring your show a while back, which looked really interesting.

00:23:48.000 I don't know what that is.

00:23:49.000 Let me stop you, let me stop you. 0.85

00:23:51.000 I don't know what that is.

00:23:52.000 The network, Genesis, goes out and sells ads and I get some of the ads for myself as payment for doing the show.

00:24:01.000 So there's a lot of stuff that I don't know what it is.

00:24:03.000 I'm not saying it's bad.

00:24:04.000 I just don't endorse it.

00:24:06.000 Okay.

00:24:06.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:24:07.000 What is the air tornado?

00:24:12.000 Well, I looked at it on the internet.

00:24:14.000 I hadn't heard of it until I heard the advertisement on the Genesis show, and it basically, it's just something you add to the engine of your car that sends the air going in, in a vortex.

00:24:29.000 Basically, it... Well, I know, let me just say this.

00:24:34.000 ...don't move, that when the air passes across them, it sends it into a movement of a vortex, kind of like water going down a drain.

00:24:42.000 So that the gas is directed all towards the center of the pipe, increasing the density.

00:24:48.000 And I'm still saying this, so I don't know exactly how it works, but I know that, you know, for people that are looking for energy solutions, it's definitely something to get into.

00:24:58.000 I mean, it's kind of a primitive application of Schauberger's work, because really, you can run motors just with water, without using combustion at all.

00:25:08.000 It sounds like some type of primitive turbo system.

00:25:13.000 Well, I say primitive because all it's doing is using the air for combustion, when in fact you could use... I mean, you're imploding the air, but then it's going to be exploded afterward.

00:25:26.000 Ned, I hear you and I appreciate your call.

00:25:28.000 Let me just say this about alternative energies.

00:25:32.000 It's the same system, same paradigm.

00:25:35.000 Just because the mainstream media lies and twists and spins and does everything they do doesn't then mean that everybody else who claims they've got an energy machine or something that makes you get better gas mileage is real.

00:25:48.000 Now that said, this sounds like a real device and sounds great.

00:25:51.000 I just can't endorse anything that I haven't studied or looked at or talked to engineers about.

00:25:56.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:25:58.000 Did Ford in the 60's have contests and have cars that got 85 miles to the gallon?

00:26:04.000 Did Chevy in the 70's put out 90 plus miles to the gallon?

00:26:07.000 Has Toyota openly by the 80's had car designs with hundreds of miles per gallon that give you even more horsepower and go hundreds of miles an hour?

00:26:16.000 There's no doubt they've artificially suppressed a lot of technologies.

00:26:19.000 There's no doubt that they've done this with the oil companies.

00:26:24.000 There is no doubt that they have suppressed a lot of other clean burning technologies.

00:26:33.000 There is no doubt that all of that is going on.

00:26:36.000 My only point is, I remember scams where you invest in this company and then they later send you a free energy machine that takes energy right out of the ground.

00:26:45.000 And then you never get it sent to you.

00:26:47.000 So because it is something people are interested in, and something that's scientific, there's projectors, that's the old English term for con artists, who will tell you, you know, invest with me, I'm gonna dig a gold mine on your land, I know there's gold.

00:27:03.000 And so, that's all I'm saying is that there's a lot of scams out there.

00:27:08.000 So you better watch yourself.

00:27:10.000 Okay, let's go ahead and talk to Elliot in New York.

00:27:13.000 Elliot, you're on the air.

00:27:16.000 Thank you for waking me up.

00:27:17.000 Thank you, sir.

00:27:18.000 I'm actually a coin dealer.

00:27:20.000 I've been dealing with ancient Greek and Roman coins, and through that I have come to study history, and I have found that the Roman Empire fell because of the basis currency, and they were not able to support their wealth and their greed anymore.

00:27:37.000 So, I feel that we're at the end of the Roman Empire War.

00:27:43.000 Similar times as when Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with the elimination of the habeas corpus.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, there's no doubt we're at a major crossroads, a major flashpoint.

00:27:53.000 The social engineers call that a liquification or an unfreezing of the social economic cultural strata and it's called a realignment.

00:28:04.000 There's a major upheaval Implosions, explosions, politically, scientifically, spiritually happening.

00:28:12.000 And so they want to make all their major changes while everything is unfrozen.

00:28:16.000 We have to go in and we have to get involved like never before, as Lennon said.

00:28:21.000 And because I quote Lennon doesn't mean I support him, I hate him.

00:28:24.000 Somebody said because Ron Paul quoted Trotsky, he was pro-Trotsky, just so infantile intellectually.

00:28:29.000 But we got folks who aren't intellectual now coming into the intellectual debate.

00:28:32.000 That's how they grow, so it's okay.

00:28:33.000 It's just very childlike.

00:28:35.000 Lenin said that there are times in history where more happens in a month than happen in a hundred years.

00:28:40.000 We are now in that period, but because of technology accelerating, it's not just going to be one big renaissance, but a whole bunch of renaissance together.

00:28:47.000 One acceleration into another acceleration into another acceleration On into the singularity.

00:28:56.000 Go ahead, you got the floor.

00:28:58.000 Uh, yeah, so if you want, you guys can visit my website at janusnewmathematics.com J-A-M-U-S-N-U-M-I-N-G-E-S dot com.

00:29:05.000 N-U-S-N-U-M-I-N-C-E-I-C-S. 1.00

00:29:10.000 Hey, that's a good plug, but hey, for the plug, can I have, I mean, even like one of the $10 Greek ones or one of the old Romans, I like those, I give those as Christmas gifts.

00:29:19.000 Family really gets off on it with a little card, you have little cards.

00:29:22.000 You ought to be a sponsor.

00:29:24.000 Yeah, I wanted to, but when I called up your GCN network, they said that Ted Anderson was dealing with coins, but it's a really different business.

00:29:35.000 Yeah, but see, you can call me, and I believe if it's ancient coins, you should be on my website.

00:29:41.000 I turn down a lot of gold dealers for Ted, but I have no problem with the old coins.

00:29:47.000 And sir, I appreciate your calls.

00:29:48.000 Just contact my office.

00:29:51.000 But to be serious there, I was being a bit sarcastic.

00:29:54.000 I'm not a big collector.

00:29:56.000 Except of ancient things.

00:29:58.000 Not because I like to hoard things, but because it's so interesting.

00:30:01.000 But, I mean, nothing expensive.

00:30:02.000 You know, I just remembered, I just moved a while back, and I don't even know where in all the moving.

00:30:11.000 I had like ten coins.

00:30:12.000 One of them was gold.

00:30:14.000 But it was Babylonian, like 3,000 years old, but the others were like 20 bucks a piece and stuff.

00:30:21.000 They were like Roman and things and just so beautiful.

00:30:25.000 One was Greek and had a Pegasus on it.

00:30:29.000 Where are my coins?

00:30:33.000 But those are neat gifts, ladies and gentlemen.

00:30:35.000 Like giving somebody a Revolutionary War musket.

00:30:38.000 Now that cost like a thousand bucks, and I haven't bought one of those yet, but I almost bought one for a friend who's done so much for me.

00:30:44.000 I just don't have the time to find the right one, but that's a piece of history, man. 0.99

00:30:50.000 Alright, now I'm really digressing like an idiot. 0.98

00:30:53.000 Robert in Nevada, you're on the air. 0.99

00:30:55.000 Hello, best wishes to my favorite aquarist on your new diet.

00:31:00.000 I have a couple of quick questions and a comment.

00:31:03.000 Question number one, how do you rate the Philippines as a potential place to get away from Any potential political problems we may be undergoing.

00:31:14.000 I know Art Bell ran there and was in a luxury high-rise and pulled out in less than a year.

00:31:20.000 There's kidnapping there.

00:31:21.000 The Philippines is really sunken into problems.

00:31:24.000 The Globalist Fund, fake Al-Qaeda groups, their own military's taking control of a shopping mall peacefully just to get international media attention and point out, it was like a Top Colonel did it, pointing out that the U.S.

00:31:37.000 funds Al-Qaeda there, actually to bring the government down, against their Christian government.

00:31:43.000 Of course, Al-Qaeda works for the New World Order, so of course that's their job in Serbia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan. 0.88

00:31:51.000 That's their job.

00:31:52.000 They are the super force of the New World Order, the super boogeyman. 0.95

00:31:56.000 But from what I've got, the Philippines is not a safe place.

00:31:59.000 They've got real-life pirates there.

00:32:01.000 You know, real live people there.

00:32:02.000 Even if you've got money and are in some armored compound, they'll still try to come in on you.

00:32:07.000 I know that Arthur C. Clarke, who just died a few weeks ago, lived in Sri Lanka, that's had revolution in killing, but he was in an armored compound and was pretty safe. 0.98

00:32:15.000 Costa Rica is one of the best places, but it's now losing a lot of its freedom.

00:32:18.000 You've got the money, the Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands.

00:32:21.000 A lot of the big money is going to New Zealand or the Cook Islands.

00:32:26.000 Okay, second question.

00:32:29.000 If someone gets reported to Child Protective Services and maybe they don't immediately get into hot water but they're, you know, not doing very well economically, they don't make a lot of money and they don't live in a great part of town, does their name stay in the system?

00:32:44.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:32:45.000 They're always hawking around and flapping about. 0.95

00:32:47.000 And it's worth it to keep your old driver's license and move to another part of the city or even a town nearby, and then keep the old license and to not put your name in any private database, anything, just to keep the blood-sucking pedophiles away from your children. 0.89

00:33:03.000 Okay, and two quick comments.

00:33:05.000 I was lucky enough to find a website where a semi-retired Florida lawyer Put out a really useful course on how to actually handle a lawsuit on your own.

00:33:18.000 It's called Juris, that's J as in John, U-R-I-S, JurisDictionary, JurisDictionary.com.

00:33:25.000 And it's solid gold.

00:33:26.000 It's really great.

00:33:28.000 And my second comment is that I had to endure something that a lot of your listeners will in the future years, I'm afraid.

00:33:37.000 We're some greedy brothers and sisters.

00:33:41.000 When the parents die, we'll call Elder Protective Services.

00:33:46.000 And the social workers, a lot of people don't understand, they will work night and day to get you thrown in jail. 0.90

00:33:53.000 Well that's right, you'll have one parent that's died and the parents have got 2 million bucks and the other lazy scum children routinely want to go ahead and send them to a hospice to have the water taken away from them as mama dies in 14 days of agony and these yuppies do it 24-7 and they are going to have lives of hell. 0.97

00:34:12.000 They don't have to wait until they die. 0.87

00:34:14.000 You do things like that, the universe is going to hurt you.

00:34:17.000 Yes.

00:34:17.000 I don't think they understand that.

00:34:19.000 I'm scared to do bad stuff because I know how the world works, man.

00:34:23.000 You reap what you sow.

00:34:24.000 You better believe it.

00:34:26.000 Yes, I was lucky enough to get a social worker evidently fired because she left a nasty message on my answering machine because normally everything they do has no fingerprints. 1.00

00:34:36.000 They never answer a letter.

00:34:38.000 They never want to be taped or anything else.

00:34:41.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:34:42.000 It's good.

00:34:42.000 For a couple hundred bucks, you can buy a VCR and have a camera mounted at your front door.

00:34:48.000 And then you want to have like a locking screen door because they'll try to push their way in.

00:34:53.000 And usually you just ignore it, but they keep banging and flip out.

00:34:56.000 You come and you just have it in a bookshelf with books in front of it.

00:34:59.000 You pull a book out, you hit record, you have it tested.

00:35:01.000 You may not use it for five years.

00:35:04.000 Yes, I had a brother blow in from out of town and he insisted that my mother have a nurse come in to be checking on her. 0.57

00:35:08.000 there in the eve and boy you can burn them good a lot of them go to prison over that more and more of us are setting this up yes i had a brother blow in from out of town and he uh insisted that my mother have a nurse come in to be checking on her and the nurse would just sit around and watch tv and read the national choir and when i changed my working hours and asked the nurse not to come by for a few weeks they called see they call the elder services on you uh well Well, she got with a social worker.

00:35:36.000 When the social worker left me a message on my answering machine, I called and left the social worker a message on her answering machine telling her to write me with any questions she had, and then she called elder protective services.

00:35:50.000 Well, that's what they do.

00:35:51.000 I appreciate your call.

00:35:52.000 Remember, the government with children, I haven't seen the numbers on elderly.

00:35:56.000 I know it's bad, though.

00:35:58.000 Actually, I have seen some numbers, but I can't remember them.

00:36:00.000 Five times more likely to abuse you.

00:36:02.000 The most dangerous place for a child is with the government.

00:36:05.000 Five times! 0.99

00:36:08.000 So we go to the group who has the worst track record, who shouldn't have a license to wipe their own butts. 0.99

00:36:16.000 To wipe their own noses.

00:36:19.000 And look, there are some good social workers in some areas, but the system itself is predatory and set up by eugenicists to take over the family, to take over the whole system, to take over the entire society.

00:36:31.000 And they do this over and over and over again, expanding them out into other facets of our daily lives.

00:36:40.000 Let's go ahead now and take a call from Freedom in California.

00:36:45.000 Hi Alex, how are you doing?

00:36:47.000 Good, I'm going to start blitzing now.

00:36:48.000 Go ahead, go fast.

00:36:49.000 Okay, you know, really to do this properly, you and I would need about an hour to debate the things that I have to debate with you, but I think that I agree with you about 95% of the things that you talk about and discuss, so I wanted to talk to you about some of the things I don't agree with you about.

00:37:07.000 Well, number one, I don't believe that any planes went into the Twin Towers, and I wanted to discuss some of the points that some of the people are making about why They believe that no planes went into the Twin Towers, and I've never heard you actually address the actual claims.

00:37:23.000 Okay, go ahead and make the claims, and then I'll deal with it.

00:37:28.000 Okay, I've watched all of the different programs, you know, that show the different stuff.

00:37:34.000 Number one, there's a video called 19 Rector Street, where there's a building that clearly exists, That was supposed to be in the video that CNN showed, and it doesn't exist in the video that CNN showed to everybody with the second plane crashing into the building.

00:37:54.000 There's another very important point.

00:37:57.000 Every time you slow down and watch any of the planes going into the buildings, the explosions don't occur until after the plane is inside the building.

00:38:07.000 There are some where you can actually see one Okay, email, let me just stop you.

00:38:12.000 Email all that, because there might be something I haven't seen, to Aaron at InfoWars.com, and I will look at it.

00:38:18.000 before the explosion happens on the face where it enters.

00:38:21.000 Okay, email...

00:38:22.000 Well, let me just stop you.

00:38:23.000 Email all that, because there might be something I haven't seen, to Aaron at Infowars.com, and I will look at it.

00:38:33.000 Any other points?

00:38:34.000 Okay, yeah, we can move off from 9-11 and the fakery and that stuff.

00:38:42.000 Let's see, you know, I've been a sovereign and I've been studying law myself and I've been studying conspiracy for 20 years, along with yourself, but I've actually delved pretty deeply into the law, been to hundreds of Patriot meetings, been to lots of sovereign meetings.

00:38:56.000 Okay, I understand, you're a grand poobah, go ahead. 1.00

00:38:58.000 Okay, well, you know, you have people like Larry Becraft on the program and And a lot of the meetings I go to, a lot of the people... Hey, look, man, I don't want people filing bonds on politicians because I know a bunch of people in Austin went to jail for it.

00:39:13.000 I'm not going to give advice out that sends my fricking listeners to prison, man.

00:39:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:17.000 All this delusional magic filings that send people to prison.

00:39:21.000 I'm looking at somebody out the window who almost had their life ruined by these people's bullcrap. 0.97

00:39:25.000 Excuse me.

00:39:26.000 Well, I happen to know of a situation where somebody actually got out of prison by filing a lien against Ashcroft and it got him removed from the prison because I follow up on these stories.

00:39:36.000 Oh yeah, they were probably already getting out of the prison and so they think it got them out of the prison.

00:39:41.000 No, no.

00:39:41.000 Or let me tell you, sometimes, let me tell you something, sometimes messing with these people going after their property does freak them out and they leave you alone but not because it's legitimate but because it's it's it's it's basically like stalking and they stalk us with illegitimate stuff too and so and and and so just because it works uh... doesn't mean that it won't send nine out of ten to prison.

00:40:04.000 Look, look I appreciate your call.

00:40:05.000 Nine out of ten?

00:40:06.000 Sir, hold on!

00:40:07.000 We don't screen the calls.

00:40:08.000 I'm going to let you go now.

00:40:10.000 We don't screen the calls.

00:40:12.000 I let you call in with two major issues.

00:40:14.000 I've got to talk about those issues.

00:40:16.000 You're welcome to call in tomorrow, Bubba.

00:40:18.000 But I promise to take a lot of calls.

00:40:19.000 In fact, before you even started talking, I said, I'm going to blitz through your calls now.

00:40:25.000 Okay?

00:40:27.000 All we asked was your first name, where you were calling from.

00:40:29.000 How did I know you were going to go off and disagree with me?

00:40:31.000 I didn't.

00:40:31.000 I said, we've got to go fast here.

00:40:34.000 There'll be a YouTube video.

00:40:35.000 Look, he gets scared here and hangs up on me.

00:40:37.000 Look, some other day, you know, it's a four-hour radio show now.

00:40:41.000 You can call him, we'll give you another three or four minutes.

00:40:42.000 Now look, what was the first thing?

00:40:45.000 The TV fake stuff.

00:40:47.000 A. If we attack the official 9-11 story by saying there's no planes hitting the towers, Tower 1 or 2, we give Fox News and the Globalist the perfect tool to discredit us.

00:40:58.000 It's not the best evidence.

00:41:00.000 Okay?

00:41:03.000 B, I don't believe that planes did not hit it.

00:41:07.000 And every time I bring up, hey, my good family friend, Jimmy Wright, who lives in Fredericksburg, part of the year in the World Financial Center, he was drinking coffee and saw the first plane, heard a noise, he's right across the street, looked up and saw a plane crash in.

00:41:21.000 And they go, no, no, that you didn't!

00:41:23.000 I mean, I remember like four years ago being in New York and trying to talk to no-plainers and they would start screaming and spitting and, liar! 1.00

00:41:29.000 No, you didn't! 0.59

00:41:31.000 You CIA!

00:41:33.000 We all know who I'm talking about and, you know, my God, get away from me!

00:41:37.000 I am the leader!

00:41:39.000 This one guy says, I'm leader!

00:41:40.000 Leader!

00:41:41.000 Then I'm like, whoa!

00:41:42.000 So it's kind of like the folks that come up to me going, you! 1.00

00:41:45.000 You dirty Mossad agent! 1.00

00:41:47.000 We ought to kill you! 1.00

00:41:48.000 You liar! 1.00

00:41:49.000 You work for the Mossad! 1.00

00:41:50.000 We have a proof!

00:41:52.000 And I'm like, what's the proof? 1.00

00:41:54.000 Shut up, liar! 1.00

00:41:55.000 I hate you! 1.00

00:41:56.000 Then it kind of makes you never want to talk about Israel. 1.00

00:41:59.000 Because it's like, man, the people that all talk about this are nuts! 0.84

00:42:00.000 Though I'm going to be talking about Israel here in a minute. 0.72

00:42:02.000 I've got to spend some time, that's why I'm hurrying.

00:42:05.000 And then, I've watched a bunch of these videos, and they go, look how the fireball comes after the plane flies in.

00:42:14.000 Exactly.

00:42:16.000 The plane flies in at 580-something miles an hour.

00:42:20.000 Within a millisecond, it's already traveled 100-something feet, the length of the plane, into the building.

00:42:26.000 When you're going close to 600 miles an hour, and the plane's 100 feet long or whatever, I mean, do you understand how fast, at 600 miles an hour, one plane was going supposedly 590, the other 560-something, so I averaged it to 580.

00:42:41.000 And it hits, and then it tears at the superstructure and pieces fly out the other end, and it aerosolizes the vast majority of the jet fuel, and so it catches the air, which the coal-burning kerosene needs, and boom, just like you take a spray, hairspray bottle, or spray paint bottle when you're a kid, and take the lighter when your parents are gone, you're, you know, in the backyard, hope they don't pull up, and you're with your friends melting army men.

00:43:08.000 The plume's big on the other end.

00:43:11.000 Not where it's coming out.

00:43:15.000 So then I watch them going, look, it's disappearing!

00:43:17.000 And we blew it up with the original tapes, you know, as best as we could.

00:43:20.000 We blew it up on big screen plasma screens.

00:43:23.000 And that's the frame rate.

00:43:26.000 That's why you can take the same video from some TVs or how they were recorded or originally from the news networks and it doesn't have that but you take some cruddy VHS that messes with the frame rate and you do that and sure it looks like it looks like the wing goes in and then disappears and there's no cut but if you really blow it up and look there's the cut.

00:43:45.000 There's the cut in the aluminum and metal siding and that plane just shreds into a million pieces.

00:43:53.000 And then who comes out and says the no plane?

00:43:55.000 Former Bush administration officials.

00:43:57.000 And then Fox has them on over and over again.

00:43:59.000 And Fox, whenever I'm doing a debate, they laugh at me and say, no planes, ha ha ha.

00:44:03.000 And BBC wants to talk about it in interviews.

00:44:04.000 And I go, but what about hijackers trained at US bases?

00:44:07.000 What about how they were US government agents?

00:44:09.000 What about the massing of US troops around Afghanistan in the months before?

00:44:13.000 What about W199I?

00:44:14.000 What about the FBI being told to stand down?

00:44:16.000 What about their houses, cars, credit cards, informants living with them?

00:44:21.000 What about Al Qaeda being CIA-created?

00:44:23.000 I mean, you bring up those arguments with, like, I've been around executives, I've been around high-powered government people, they freak out and go, yeah, you're right.

00:44:29.000 Man, that convinces people like Jesse Ventura, it convinces them all.

00:44:34.000 But you start talking about no planes hitting it, ladies and gentlemen, or pods and flashes and all this other stuff.

00:44:40.000 It's over.

00:44:41.000 But everybody wants to be their own trailblazer in this movement.

00:44:44.000 And so they want to focus on their issue, their area.

00:44:48.000 And in any black op, they have it confusing.

00:44:50.000 They have it strange.

00:44:51.000 They have planes lifting off and landing in weird groups.

00:44:54.000 And Operation Northwoods talks about CIA folks getting on a plane, having to go one place, another plane painted up with the same tail number being blown up off the coast of Florida, and then finding the wreckage in the tail numbers.

00:45:07.000 We know they did it.

00:45:08.000 The black op, we're not sure how they did it.

00:45:12.000 And so you were reasonable and sounded like a normal person, so I answered your question. 0.99

00:45:16.000 The normal no-planers are just completely nuts.

00:45:21.000 I mean they are completely out of their minds and vicious and aggressive and lying and slanderous and uh... and then they've always got former admitted spooks and former admitted people from CIA universities running around spewing and I've been at hotels around these people and had them walk up and go, yeah you and all you people are going to sue and we take over. 0.96

00:45:43.000 And of course I can't go on air and say who said that to me because no one would believe it and then the person could sue me.

00:45:50.000 Just like I've had anarchists walk up to me before, and I'll go, you work for those cops on the top of the building? 1.00

00:45:54.000 And they go, yeah, we do, and we're gonna kill you, you son of a bitch, soon. 1.00

00:45:57.000 And I'm like, get the camera over here, Mike! 0.99

00:46:00.000 You know, and Mike's over there interviewing, you know, cops trying to start a fight dressed up like anarchists, and we got that on video, and aired it on AXS, and I'm so busy I can't find the original tape, it's pure gold.

00:46:08.000 It's even worse than what you saw in Ottawa, where they were staging them before it came out on national news it was staged, now admitted.

00:46:16.000 I mean, you know, I've been there with them on the street when they walk up and they go, Legang, Togo, you know, just all sorts of things.

00:46:22.000 I remember three years ago, one of them, I went to dinner with one of them and I knew they were a little, they use unstable, provocateur, informant types who they've got a lot of dirt on, who are perfect to go out, just like the guys they have that quote are official ground zero tour guides.

00:46:42.000 And man, you'll be in person with them when the camera moves off and they'll just point blank going, how long do you think you'll get away with this, Jones?

00:46:48.000 You know we're going to deal with you.

00:46:51.000 And it's just point blank, you're dealing with a hardcore special ops killer.

00:46:54.000 You can just look at them.

00:46:56.000 High and tight haircut, 40 years old, carried out lots of black ops. 0.96

00:46:59.000 You go find out it's not even their name.

00:47:02.000 We've trailed him, seen him meet with the police.

00:47:04.000 I mean, you know, it's serious.

00:47:05.000 It's just like the fella called in the other day, he was at a CFR book signing with a CFR, one of the head guys, and he walks over and says, you know, the New World Order is falling apart, but Zygmunt Brzezinski said 30 years behind, and the guy puts the pen down and says, we will recover.

00:47:19.000 I mean, I've been at the Capitol before and had the Speaker of the House years ago waddle over and go, Alex, you're a smart guy. 0.97

00:47:25.000 The people don't want your help, they want to be dumb. 0.92

00:47:28.000 You know, the way you change the process is compromising and joining us. 0.97

00:47:32.000 You all just join us!

00:47:34.000 And he's wearing a $3,000 suit, had a sharp haircut, sharp jewelry on.

00:47:38.000 Seems like, here's my card, give me a call sometime, let's get dinner.

00:47:42.000 I'd like to work with you.

00:47:45.000 And I had one of the most high-powered Democratic Party members in Austin call me when I played an access show with Clips Off C-SPAN of him meeting with Communist Chinese in the White House, and it was him with Clinton in the meetings, and he called up and he was, he was, Alex, you know what, Bill Clinton's a great person, and I don't appreciate you talking bad about him and what you did with me.

00:48:08.000 Why don't you just join us?

00:48:11.000 You know, I mean, that's how you know these people are real.

00:48:13.000 The no-plainers, ladies and gentlemen, are operatives at the top. 1.00

00:48:16.000 Now, they've got a lot of well-meaning people.

00:48:20.000 They're handling you.

00:48:21.000 They're manipulating you.

00:48:24.000 Like a lot of the people that say Israel runs it all crowd.

00:48:27.000 They're meant to act wacky and crazy and mix crazy stuff in with it.

00:48:34.000 And notice, they'll operate for about a year or two, get your confidence, and then they'll start talking about UFOs, moon landings, Neanderthal, you know, just craziness, and by then you're already emotionally committed to it, and so you can't pull out of the craziness.

00:48:56.000 See, they don't want you to legitimately come to the table and legitimately have an effect.

00:49:03.000 They don't want you to legitimately expose what they're doing.

00:49:10.000 It's really just that simple, my friends.

00:49:23.000 Thank you.

00:49:25.000 Now, it's weird doing a radio show and controlling cameras and computers and phone calls.

00:49:31.000 We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 calls and growing.

00:49:38.000 I don't know how to ever get to all these.

00:49:39.000 Oh yeah, what was the second thing he talked about?

00:49:41.000 Because if I don't cover it, they'll say I dodged it.

00:49:45.000 Do you remember the second thing that last caller brought up?

00:49:48.000 Oh, man.

00:49:49.000 Let me think.

00:49:50.000 He said, no planes.

00:49:56.000 He Even though there were engines on the ground.

00:50:01.000 And photos of that.

00:50:04.000 Those are FAKE PHOTOS!

00:50:07.000 NOT A FAKE VIDEO!

00:50:09.000 You saw the CG!

00:50:10.000 That same guy comes down to ground zero a few weeks ago while we are a changer down there with a sign saying, 9-11 truth, we are change, carried out the bombing of the Armed Forces Recruiting carried out the bombing of the Armed Forces Recruiting Center in Times Square.

00:50:31.000 I don't know.

00:50:32.000 I called Luke up that day and I said, I've got a feeling.

00:50:35.000 There were witnesses in there, I've got a bad feeling.

00:50:37.000 They're going to try to tie you to that bombing and try to set you up, and he goes, already happened.

00:50:42.000 This guy showed up, started punching them, screaming with a BBC News crew with him.

00:50:47.000 The operatives.

00:50:49.000 Going, AHHHHH!

00:50:52.000 Hitting people with a huge sign to get attention saying that they had done the bombing.

00:50:59.000 I mean, that is on a silver platter!

00:51:05.000 And Luke said, should I put the video out?

00:51:06.000 And I said, don't do it.

00:51:07.000 Don't give him attention.

00:51:08.000 I'm wrong.

00:51:08.000 You know what?

00:51:09.000 Let's let it all hang out.

00:51:10.000 In fact, call Luke.

00:51:11.000 I mean, Luke doesn't follow my orders either.

00:51:12.000 He calls me out once a week and asks what he thinks I should, what he should do and half the time he doesn't listen to me.

00:51:17.000 Go ahead and call Luke and just tell him to put the video up.

00:51:20.000 Maybe we'll play it tomorrow here.

00:51:24.000 I am the leader!

00:51:26.000 I was at a meeting one time and they had him up to speak and he goes, You must all follow me!

00:51:31.000 I am the leader!

00:51:32.000 No plans!

00:51:34.000 Effing blizzard cooling my leg!

00:51:37.000 Hair sticking up in all directions, disheveled, mustard stains on the front of his shirt.

00:51:44.000 And I always thought he was just mentally ill until I saw that he was being handled by BBC and all these other people, and little winks and nods and friendlinesses with the people down there affiliated with Screw Loose Change and the rest of it, who were down there advising the crowds and creeping around.

00:52:04.000 I mean, they're running an operation, and I got news for them.

00:52:08.000 Your operation's blown. 0.62

00:52:10.000 You have failed miserably.

00:52:13.000 You have failed in a big way!

00:52:15.000 Everybody knows your COINTELPRO, they know your disinfo now, they're talking about the real issues.

00:52:21.000 One of the embassy heads, Springman, who I first interviewed six plus years ago, almost seven years ago, within two months of 9-11, he's now out there talking about how the hijackers were U.S.

00:52:29.000 government agents and he was ordered to let them back into the country.

00:52:32.000 You have failed miserably!

00:52:36.000 All of you! 0.93

00:52:37.000 And you're going to go on failing, you understand me?

00:52:41.000 And you can kill us individually, but I want you to know that ideas are bulletproof.

00:52:46.000 And you're all going to be brought to justice, do you understand? 0.96

00:52:49.000 You're all going to be dealt with, do you understand me? 1.00

00:52:52.000 We are sick of you murderers. 0.99

00:52:54.000 and all of you that support their system and support the lie and help push the lie, you are accomplices to all of it. 0.99

00:53:02.000 You know, I said I'd take calls, but I've got to get to this Israel thing. - No.

00:53:13.000 No good deed goes unpunished.

00:53:14.000 I'm going to get into this hot button issue, and then... You know what?

00:53:17.000 I'm on the British TV until 15 after.

00:53:20.000 I was going to play an exclusive video, not yet seen by folks here, for 15 minutes, but maybe I should just take calls.

00:53:27.000 Because once I'm on with the British, I don't know if I'll be able to go to Eddie and Roger and John and Justin and Troy and Jay and Anthony and Jeremy and everybody else that's on.

00:53:37.000 Man, I'm enjoying this new ad.

00:53:39.000 I might just keep doing this.

00:53:41.000 I like it.

00:53:42.000 Coming straight on for you.

00:53:45.000 You've made my mind.

00:53:47.000 Now I'm strong and now I'm coming straight on for you.

00:53:53.000 What should I air?

00:53:54.000 You know, the Ed Koch has been up on the PrisonPlanet.tv website, but it hasn't gotten the attention it deserves.

00:53:59.000 I want to air the Ed Koch in the 15 minutes when we've got a break here in a moment.

00:54:03.000 But I can queue that up and do it myself.

00:54:04.000 So we'll just stand by and go to that right when we hit three o'clock in six minutes.

00:54:10.000 Then we'll come back and take all your calls.

00:54:13.000 I can give each person 30 seconds and then they'll accuse me of cutting them off and hiding the truth or something.

00:54:18.000 It's really not fair to people that disagree with it all the time, but, well, we just have to do that here.

00:54:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:54:22.000 Rabbi Elayu, life of one Israeli worth more than 1,000 Arabs.

00:54:35.000 Thank you.

00:54:36.000 And the word is yeshiva boy worth more than 1,000 Arabs.

00:54:41.000 Here is the article.

00:54:43.000 And the reason I find this so interesting... Put it up on the document cam for you.

00:54:51.000 Oh, that's the wrong one.

00:54:55.000 Here it is.

00:54:55.000 I've got so many things to switch here.

00:54:58.000 The reason I find this story interesting is I posted this up on InfoWars.com.

00:55:03.000 That's a major Israeli paper and publication and online journal.

00:55:09.000 This is one of the top five publications in Israel.

00:55:13.000 Ynet, news.com, and see that's in Hebrew right there.

00:55:16.000 You see that?

00:55:19.000 I mean, I talk about how the Jerusalem Post and Harots admit that Otago admits that they got a call and told all their employees not to go to work that day, four hours before the attacks, and they warned 4,000 of them, and that's where the rumors started there were no Jews.

00:55:31.000 No, there were some Jews in there, but I got it out of Harots and all that, and I popularized it.

00:55:37.000 I went on air day one and said, look, Otago, and then later I was accused of covering it up.

00:55:41.000 I put it in road to tyranny.

00:55:45.000 The point is though, why would Odigo call the newspaper and say we were warned not to go into work if they were part of it?

00:55:52.000 I'm not saying Israel somehow wasn't involved in the attacks or elements of Shem Bet or Mossad.

00:55:57.000 The point I'm making is that Odigo certainly wasn't, and the Jerusalem Post and Haraz published it, and their publications are under military denotices.

00:56:07.000 The military can control what they publish and what they don't, so why does Israel admit that they warned people to get out of the buildings, and why then is it admitted that on top of all of that, That they've created fake Al-Qaeda groups and staged bombings as a pretext to kill the priests process.

00:56:29.000 Now is that saying there aren't real people that do bomb and kill people in Israel and I'm against that?

00:56:34.000 Certainly there's real stuff going on.

00:56:35.000 The point is a lot of it's fake.

00:56:37.000 And so I'm just reading out of Israeli papers and that's what I do.

00:56:43.000 So let me go ahead and read you this article.

00:56:50.000 Rabbi Elahau, life of one yeshiva boy worth more than 1,000 Arabs.

00:57:01.000 And this is, again, out of Ynet News, out of Israel.

00:57:05.000 This is their English version.

00:57:06.000 I have it in Hebrew for you if you'd like it.

00:57:09.000 But on Prison Planet, I mean on InfoWars, but comment number 21 on the story, where he posted part of the story, Infowars.com, there is comment number 21.

00:57:28.000 See it right there?

00:57:29.000 There's comment number 21.

00:57:32.000 Comment number 21 had this to say.

00:57:37.000 Aaron says, I don't agree with Zionism and the occupation of Palestine land, but articles like this allow the MSN to portray the Truth Movement as a bunch of anti-Semitic white supremacists.

00:57:46.000 I don't want to be classified as a white supremacist like Randy Weaver and have my property sieged by federal agents on trumped-up charges for going to an anti-war protest for 9-11 Truth Rally.

00:57:56.000 That's all those people's jobs are, to be informants and radicalize fringe groups.

00:58:00.000 I agree with you.

00:58:02.000 Got any sawed-off shotguns for sale?

00:58:04.000 I'll buy ammo.

00:58:05.000 I got a copy of Mein Kampf for free.

00:58:07.000 Oh, cool.

00:58:08.000 Can you bug my house now, please?

00:58:10.000 Well, Aaron Williams wrote this.

00:58:12.000 Hey, Aaron, we didn't write this.

00:58:15.000 This is a big paper in Israel.

00:58:19.000 Okay?

00:58:19.000 It's painful to have to do this.

00:58:21.000 It's painful.

00:58:22.000 And you read here, the quotes at the big national meeting, and it's Head of the Merskav Harav Yeshiva chose to explain the attack by saying the Torah and the Land of Israel are acquired only through agony.

00:58:42.000 Former Sephardi Chief Rabbi Mordecai L.A.U.

00:58:49.000 called on the government to decree for every life lost in the attack against Yeshiva, the township will be formed.

00:58:55.000 Even when we seek revenge, it is important to make one thing clear.

00:58:59.000 The life of one Yeshiva boy is worth more than the lives of a thousand Arabs.

00:59:03.000 The Talmud states that if the Gentiles rob Israel of silver, they will pay it back in gold. 0.98

00:59:07.000 And all that is taken will be paid back in folds.

00:59:11.000 But in cases like these, there is nothing to be paid back, since, as I said, the life of one yeshiva boy is worth more than a thousand lives of Arabs, added the rabbi.

00:59:20.000 He's the former head rabbi, and that's number two.

00:59:25.000 I mean, this cannot be defended.

00:59:28.000 And they advertise this in here.

00:59:30.000 Now, the paper goes on to say, uh... Rahmat, Gann's chief rabbi, Ya'kova Ariel chose to deliver a more moderate message, so they slightly criticize it.

00:59:41.000 We do not seek vengeance, we seek retaliation.

00:59:43.000 The terrorist house should have been demolished immediately, regardless of the law, and it goes on from there. 0.95

00:59:50.000 So, you have the Texas Civil Rights Review saying that When I did a story about people at a Larry Conquista rally, thousands at the Capitol, wearing green shirts, a bunch of them wearing green shirts at a rally of thousands, saying, plan of San Diego, I found out that that meant killing all whites, 16 and older. 0.92

01:00:11.000 I said, man, that's bad and racist.

01:00:13.000 And then the Texas Civil Rights Review, in a publication, said, well, they do want to kill all whites, but they're downtrodden, and you have to understand they're an oppressed people, and I was bad for saying that. 0.80

01:00:25.000 So, see, This has to be talked about, but you know, I'll probably be attacked by the ADL now, and I'm just trying to be inclusive.

01:00:33.000 And again, most Jews aren't involved in this, don't believe in this.

01:00:37.000 I had to talk about Hagee when he said that Christians really are second-rate to Jews, and Jews are better than anybody else.

01:00:43.000 I've seen him say Jesus isn't the Messiah, and I had to talk about that.

01:00:46.000 I got that going real big, and got a bunch of threats over that, and attacks.

01:00:50.000 I mean, you know, I got a big show, folks.

01:00:52.000 I'm not somebody with a little website here.

01:00:53.000 What I say gets paid attention to.

01:00:56.000 You know, I get off a plane in Europe, I'll be arrested just for saying it's wrong to say, you know, that one Palestinian is worth as much as a Jew. 0.99

01:01:06.000 That's it for this hour.

01:01:07.000 We're going to play you the Ed Koch interview.

01:01:12.000 And then, where we demolish everything he says in about 15 minutes, I'm scheduled to be on British radio, and I'll tell the British radio, hey, I want to take calls, and I'll just on air take calls from my end, whether they like it or not.

01:01:25.000 So, that is coming up.

01:01:27.000 We'll be right back in 15 minutes.

01:01:29.000 I want everybody to stay with me.

01:01:31.000 Well, he is a veteran of the European Theater in World War II. he is a veteran of the European Theater in World He's a member of Congress, and he joins us for the balance of the broadcast today for the next 25 minutes or so.

01:01:56.000 He's a former New York mayor, Ed Cott.

01:01:58.000 He's written 16 books.

01:02:01.000 And he's here with us today to talk about his newest book, The Koch Papers, in a book he wrote years ago, I think in 99, about the nasty little Rudolph Giuliani.

01:02:11.000 So we'll get some of his comments on that as well.

01:02:14.000 Mayor Koch, tell us about the new book.

01:02:17.000 Well, I wrote a book, which I'm very proud of.

01:02:20.000 It's my latest and my best, and it's called The Koch Papers, and it is a compilation of the statements that I've made and the commentaries I've issued, speeches, and really first rate, beginning with my days in Congress up until recently on the issue of anti-Semitism.

01:02:41.000 We're fortunate in the United States.

01:02:44.000 This is really the golden age.

01:02:47.000 Of course there are anti-Semites.

01:02:51.000 The pastor of Obama is an anti-Semite.

01:02:55.000 But the fact is that anti-Semitism is vastly decreased, but rising in Europe to the point where it's close to where it was in the 30s, just before World War II.

01:03:10.000 Well, that's an amazing statement right there.

01:03:14.000 Mayor Koch, I've seen the quotes about the government vetting AIDS or the government shipping in drugs for the black people, but I haven't heard him make any anti-Semitic comments.

01:03:24.000 Can you tell me specifically what Barack Obama's...?

01:03:27.000 Yes, he has... You know, when you attack Israel, you have a right to attack Israel, but if you attack it by... when you would not attack another country, For doing the same thing, then it's anti-semitism, in my judgment.

01:03:47.000 So let me give you an illustration. 0.94

01:03:50.000 He and others attack Israel because it engages in self-defense against Palestinian terrorism, and he says that the Israelis treat the Palestinians worse Then the Nazis treated the Jews as ridiculous. 0.80

01:04:13.000 And secondly, what the Israelis are doing is, for example, what the Turks are doing today. 0.96

01:04:18.000 They go into Iraq to go after the terrorists that enter Turkey to kill Turks.

01:04:29.000 And I haven't seen anybody criticize Uh, the Turks for doing that.

01:04:34.000 That's the right of self-defense.

01:04:37.000 Well, Mayor, uh, Toch, you were in Congress, weren't you, at the same time that Jimmy Carter was in office?

01:04:45.000 I was.

01:04:46.000 And I've seen photos with, you know, you meeting with him.

01:04:50.000 I mean, would you call him friends?

01:04:54.000 I mean, are you saying that Jimmy Carter, or would you say Jimmy Carter's anti-Semitic?

01:04:59.000 No, I wouldn't say he was anti-Semitic.

01:05:00.000 I would say he was hostile to Israel, but not anti-Semitic.

01:05:04.000 There is a difference.

01:05:05.000 You can be critical of Israel if you criticize it for the same reason that you criticize other countries.

01:05:14.000 Jimmy Carter criticizes a lot of countries.

01:05:17.000 But I haven't heard, in this case, Reverend Wright or anybody else, criticize Turkey for doing what Israel does, which is defend its people from terrorist attacks.

01:05:31.000 The difference is the Kurds didn't have that area of Turkey, and Israel has been expanding and pushing the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas and demolishing the houses.

01:05:45.000 Let me defend that.

01:05:46.000 Firstly, Israel has agreed to the two-state solution called the Roadmap, which President Bush and others have urged.

01:05:57.000 The Palestinians under Hamas in the West Bank says, no, every Jew who entered historic Palestine after 1917 must be expelled and there will be one Muslim state.

01:06:14.000 I think that's a threat to Jews who are now about six million.

01:06:20.000 Mayor Koch, I'm not...

01:06:23.000 Denying that there are a lot of Palestinians, a lot of Arabs, that say push all the Jews into the ocean and the rest of the... A majority. 1.00

01:06:30.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 A majority in the West Bank.

01:06:34.000 My whole statement is, is that the Arabs were not there killing Jews until 47, 48, when Israel... That is not true.

01:06:42.000 ...blew up the hotel... That's not true.

01:06:44.000 It happens that in, for example, in the mid-30s, the Arabs killed every Jew in Hebron.

01:06:53.000 In the mid-30s the Jews were living.

01:06:55.000 You may not accept it as such, I don't know, maybe you do, but Jews have lived in the area which was known originally as Judea and Samaria until the Romans I totally agree with you that Sephardic Jews, that are 20% of the Jewish family, certainly have been there for 3,000 years.

01:07:24.000 So, you may not accept it as such, but in the Bible, it says that God made a pact with the Jews that the area Uh, which was known as Judea.

01:07:39.000 Well, actually, God ordered the Jews to go in and kill everybody, including their animals. 0.91

01:07:45.000 Well, he may have. 0.66

01:07:46.000 I don't really know that part of the section, but that's not what you or I are talking about.

01:07:51.000 I'm simply saying that from a historical point of view, this is the land of the Jews. 0.75

01:07:58.000 Well, Mayor Koch, I get criticized because I don't go with what's fashionable and just bash Israel all day.

01:08:09.000 I'm really trying to show both sides here.

01:08:12.000 I'll tell you what I don't like.

01:08:14.000 What I don't like is the fact that in Europe, the different governmental organizations, the different lobbying groups, have tried to push to even, you know, ban people's political free speech.

01:08:28.000 Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying about Hitler, I think they have a right. 1.00

01:08:34.000 I think they have a right to say it.

01:08:36.000 Let me explain to you.

01:08:37.000 So do you agree with the First Amendment or not?

01:08:40.000 Of course, in the United States we have the First Amendment.

01:08:43.000 They've never had the First Amendment in Europe.

01:08:45.000 I know, but if we should have it here, they should have it there.

01:08:48.000 No, not at all.

01:08:50.000 Each country has its own laws, and in Europe, because of Adolf Hitler, in Germany and France, And in England, they have said that you may not, under penalty of criminal law, say that there was not a...

01:09:11.000 Uh, Holocaust. 0.93

01:09:12.000 Now, Holocaust deniers say, oh, Hitler didn't kill the Jews.

01:09:16.000 But, Mayor Koch, we know what they say, Mayor Koch.

01:09:19.000 And we certainly know Hitler killed a lot of Jews and a lot of other people.

01:09:22.000 And not only a lot, 6 million.

01:09:24.000 Yeah, and about 20 million Germans died and he killed about 7 million Poles. 0.54

01:09:29.000 Hitler didn't kill 20 million Germans.

01:09:31.000 20 million Germans died.

01:09:33.000 And we killed 20 million Germans! 0.99

01:09:35.000 So you're not arguing with that 20 million number?

01:09:37.000 Because they were fighting a war!

01:09:41.000 Mayor Koch, you don't even know where I'm coming from here.

01:09:43.000 Let me just get my point out.

01:09:44.000 Because I really want to hear what you have to say about this.

01:09:47.000 Of course!

01:09:47.000 Okay?

01:09:48.000 I mean, look, both my grandfathers were over there.

01:09:51.000 So believe me, I know about it, okay?

01:09:52.000 They were over there at the same time you were.

01:09:54.000 Okay?

01:09:55.000 So we're on the same team here when it comes to that.

01:09:57.000 My whole point is, I wasn't going to give the numbers.

01:09:59.000 Millions of Poles.

01:10:01.000 Millions of Russians.

01:10:02.000 Millions of Germans.

01:10:03.000 And yes, Hitler did target Jews.

01:10:05.000 That was his whole shtick.

01:10:06.000 We know that.

01:10:07.000 It was horrible.

01:10:08.000 My whole point is, is that once you say, and there are groups here trying to restrict free speech in the U.S.

01:10:15.000 Same groups.

01:10:16.000 Nobody's trying to restrict free speech in the United States, and it's foolish to say that.

01:10:23.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:10:24.000 The ADL and everybody else runs over to Europe and supports what they're doing.

01:10:29.000 You see, you're not staying on point.

01:10:32.000 I have said to you, Europe does not have the First Amendment, and they never had it, and they don't want it.

01:10:40.000 So you're saying... They don't want it.

01:10:42.000 You're saying they don't have any persuasions.

01:10:45.000 No.

01:10:48.000 Not a committee.

01:10:51.000 The fact is that the governments of the countries that I've told you about have decided that it is in their interest Not to allow the resurgence of Neo-Nazism.

01:11:06.000 I understand that, but now they've expanded it, Mayor.

01:11:09.000 Now they've expanded it to don't criticize the EU.

01:11:12.000 Don't criticize immigrants flooding in.

01:11:16.000 That's baloney.

01:11:16.000 You want to bet money?

01:11:17.000 I've got all the headlines.

01:11:19.000 They arrest you in England if you say the word homosexual.

01:11:24.000 That's it!

01:11:24.000 You know, you're saying things that I think you're... Robin Page, BBC!

01:11:29.000 You are saying things... $10,000, Mayor Koch, right now!

01:11:32.000 That's baloney!

01:11:33.000 That's sheer baloney!

01:11:34.000 That's what you do! 0.98

01:11:36.000 Robin Page was arrested, BBC reporter, for saying the word homosexual. 0.96

01:11:41.000 It's ridiculous, and I don't believe it, and it isn't true, and I don't know your particular case, but let me go a little further. 0.98

01:11:48.000 The reason, you know, what you're conveying is, well, so what if they killed 6 million Jews? 0.97

01:11:54.000 They killed 20 million Russians. 0.57

01:11:56.000 That's not what I said!

01:11:57.000 What I said is that you shouldn't take people's free speech!

01:12:00.000 That's what Hitler did! 0.88

01:12:01.000 I want to go a little further.

01:12:02.000 I wanted to draw a distinction for you as to why the Holocaust is different In a lot of respects than the killing of any other group, even as terrible as it was.

01:12:17.000 And I will tell you what the difference is.

01:12:18.000 Hitler issued an order called the Final Solution, which said that every Jew in the countries in which Nazism prevailed would be killed Baby, infant, child, man, woman.

01:12:35.000 No child could be adopted to save the child's life. 0.81

01:12:39.000 No Jew could convert to Christianity. 0.72

01:12:42.000 No, the extermination plan. 0.98

01:12:44.000 Exactly.

01:12:45.000 And that was not what he did with any other people.

01:12:48.000 And that's the difference.

01:12:50.000 Oh, I agree with you earlier that the base of Nazism wanted to go after the Jews. 0.64

01:12:55.000 I mean, I've read Mein Kampf.

01:12:58.000 I understand what's going on there.

01:13:00.000 Mayor Koch, and I'm not arguing with you, all I'm trying to say is that you're not aware of all the new hate speech laws, even in England, that has no connection?

01:13:14.000 Listen, you're not in England, you're in the United States.

01:13:18.000 The English have a tradition of being very free with speech, but they have decided That they have to put limitations on it.

01:13:31.000 That's their decision.

01:13:34.000 No, that's the government.

01:13:35.000 The British people don't want to join the EU, and the government's forcing it down their throat.

01:13:39.000 Look, look.

01:13:42.000 It is a threat to freedom to have a tax on free speech, Koch.

01:13:45.000 You can't say...

01:13:47.000 You can't say you support free speech in the U.S.

01:13:49.000 and then go to Europe and be the head of the U.S. 0.98

01:13:53.000 delegation to go over there with that whole agenda off of the people that got killed taking people's free speech today using the dumb Nazis as your poster boy to take other people's free speech! 0.97

01:14:04.000 Now listen, nobody from here is taking anybody's free speech. 0.94

01:14:09.000 Each government In Germany, they decided that if you did not clamp down on Neo-Nazism and do that by saying that if you revere Hitler, if you engage in a fascist Nazi salute, you're breaking the German law.

01:14:30.000 You want to change that!

01:14:32.000 Germans are very happy to have that!

01:14:36.000 Well, I know this, BBC and Der Spiegel reported that the Germans, government since the 60s, has been caught heading up the neo-Nazi groups that they allow to operate.

01:14:46.000 They were caught provocateuring firebombing attacks against Turks as a pretext to pass such laws. 0.95

01:14:52.000 That's ridiculous!

01:14:54.000 And that's what is known as the conspiracy theories in the United States. 0.93

01:14:59.000 Mayor Cox, you know what we're going to do with this interview?

01:15:01.000 What?

01:15:01.000 We're going to take your statements saying that they didn't arrest Robin Page for... No, no, I don't even know who... And we're going to put the articles up where it says that.

01:15:11.000 I don't even know who... I don't even... Please, give me a chance.

01:15:15.000 I don't even know who Robin Page is! 0.98

01:15:18.000 I am simply saying to you, when you say that in England they arrest you for saying the word homosexual, I say that's junk, not true. 0.73

01:15:31.000 No, they say that the police society that was meant as condescending Because scientific terms now are... Police don't decide. 0.91

01:15:40.000 They arrest.

01:15:41.000 And a court decides whether you engage in hate speech.

01:15:45.000 You didn't know they have police that go to restaurants and sit listening randomly for people using rifle burns?

01:15:50.000 Oh, I don't believe that for one minute.

01:15:53.000 You're filled with conspiracy theories.

01:15:56.000 It's really peculiar.

01:15:57.000 Hey, let me guess.

01:15:58.000 The North American Union doesn't exist either, right?

01:16:01.000 Let me ask you something.

01:16:03.000 Do you think it was the Arabs who blew up the World Trade Center, or do you think it was the Jews?

01:16:08.000 Well, that brings me to my next point.

01:16:11.000 No, can't you answer that question?

01:16:13.000 Mayor Koch, I'm going to answer your question.

01:16:17.000 I do not believe that the Jews carried out the attack on the World Trade Centers.

01:16:24.000 And I also know that the Pensacola News Journal, the Associated Press, the San Jose Mercury News, and Newsweek all reported that the hijackers were trained at U.S.

01:16:34.000 military bases.

01:16:36.000 That's correct.

01:16:38.000 Not U.S. 0.94

01:16:38.000 military. 0.94

01:16:39.000 They were private training places.

01:16:43.000 Separate from that.

01:16:47.000 You're so full of misinformation, and if you're pervading this every day, you're polluting the airwaves.

01:16:54.000 Should I have my free speech taken?

01:16:57.000 No!

01:16:57.000 You can say whatever you want to!

01:16:59.000 Should the Fairness Doctrine be brought back? 1.00

01:17:01.000 No!

01:17:01.000 I don't believe that!

01:17:02.000 I believe you can say whatever you want to!

01:17:04.000 Hey, Mayor Koch, I actually think you're a funny, smart character, and I want to come back and talk about Giuliani, because I don't like him either, and I want to end this on a friendly note, but I'll just say this as we go to break, okay?

01:17:17.000 If you look at 9-11 and you look at how they masked more than 70,000 U.S.

01:17:21.000 and British troops, Around Afghanistan, it had the aircraft carriers and Bush signed the order to attack Afghanistan the day before 9-11.

01:17:31.000 And if you look at how Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane but fell, and you look at NORAD standing down, and you look at Bush running the 9-11 Whitewash Commission, that's why there's questions.

01:17:40.000 So to say that because a minority says Jews did it, the majority of 9-11 truth doesn't say that.

01:17:45.000 So I'm going to get your take on that.

01:17:47.000 Let me get back on the other side.

01:17:48.000 Mayor Ed Koch, his new book, The Koch Papers.

01:17:51.000 All right, Mayor Koch, in Congress, ran for governor. .

01:18:06.000 Mayor multiple times, very popular.

01:18:08.000 New book, The Koch Papers.

01:18:10.000 Just type Ed Koch into Google, you can find it all.

01:18:15.000 Look, I was talking to you in the break, Mayor, and I actually believe there's a global eugenics program, Planned Parenthood, set up by the Rockefellers who funded Hitler. 0.95

01:18:25.000 I know you got questioned by We Are Change a week or so ago and they brought up Prescott Bush was in the New York Times back in the 40s being the head Nazi agent in the U.S.

01:18:34.000 You said you knew nothing about it.

01:18:36.000 I find it hard to believe that you've lived in New York and New Jersey most of your life and that you didn't know what's common knowledge and been headlines in the BBC.

01:18:47.000 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, live internet stream.

01:18:49.000 I'm going to be interviewed by a national radio show in the UK.

01:18:53.000 Wonderful folks.

01:18:54.000 Communication broke down and they didn't know I was going to be doing just this internet simulcast today, but I'm going to be interviewed.

01:18:59.000 They are now in control of the transmission for the next 30 minutes or so, and so I'm going to turn things over to the folks in England, and the radio program is the night before, and we are honored to be here.

01:19:13.000 Guys, do you hear us?

01:19:14.000 Yeah, hello Alex, how's it going?

01:19:16.000 Good, I've just decided to, almost like a Truman Show, just let everybody, in an audio way, follow me around.

01:19:23.000 I'm even thinking about actually doing a video show for 24 hours straight on the web in the near future.

01:19:29.000 So this is also going out on the web via video right now.

01:19:35.000 Right, like the Big Brother TV program.

01:19:37.000 In a way.

01:19:37.000 I mean, sure, this has been done for a long time, but this is just more so people get an idea of the stuff I'm doing and who we're talking to.

01:19:44.000 But listen, you're in command.

01:19:45.000 Let's just say we've got Alex Jones on the line and start your interview.

01:19:48.000 I'm sorry we got our wires crossed.

01:19:50.000 Okay, no worries.

01:19:51.000 Okay, well what we wanted to do is we were intending to do an interview with you where we sort of get inside the head of Alex Jones because a lot of our audience won't know who you are and so I wanted to talk through your different sort of stages of development and how I came into contact with you as a consequence.

01:20:11.000 Absolutely.

01:20:13.000 I know you're pre-recording this for a few hours to air across England and London, and so just for the listeners, it's not live yet, but plug for my listeners, before you start, where this is going to be on, how they listen on the web, or for our listeners in England, where they tune in.

01:20:28.000 Okay, well we're across the UK on digital DAB and we're on FM across the West Midlands and the name of the station is Kerrang Radio and if this is really good and we enjoy it, maybe this will get turned into a podcast as well.

01:20:43.000 It'll be broadcast on Tuesday and it'll be broadcast at 12 o'clock at night across the UK.

01:20:48.000 Okay, and that's this Tuesday or next Tuesday?

01:20:52.000 Yeah, this Tuesday coming because we're in Tuesday now here in the UK.

01:20:55.000 Okay, gotcha.

01:20:56.000 So this is a week from now?

01:20:57.000 Yeah, that's right, yeah.

01:20:58.000 Okay, got it.

01:20:58.000 Okay, I was confused.

01:21:00.000 We want to edit you and make you say you love Big Brother and you want the Illuminati to win.

01:21:05.000 Germany calling, Germany calling.

01:21:07.000 Okay, listen.

01:21:09.000 Here's how I first came into contact with you.

01:21:13.000 In fact, it's weird.

01:21:13.000 I was thinking about you earlier on, Alex Jones, and I think probably The first way that I came into contact with you didn't even involve you.

01:21:20.000 I was reading a book called 1984 and I closed the book and I'd finished reading it and I remember thinking, actually the world can never ever be the same now.

01:21:28.000 Now I've read that book forever my mind's Damaged or whatever, or changed.

01:21:33.000 And obviously, is that a book you yourself read?

01:21:35.000 I mean, you're not that much older than me, you're around the same age.

01:21:37.000 I'm 34.

01:21:38.000 It was an extremely powerful book, and because I had already been somewhat of a history buff, not because I was a bookworm, but because growing up, my mom has a degree in history, my dad's a voracious reader and a physician, and so I learned that history books were more action-packed than Fiction.

01:21:59.000 And so I began to really read a lot of history.

01:22:01.000 I knew about Stalin, Hitler, Caesar, Caligula, the Aztecs.

01:22:05.000 I knew about Pol Pot. 0.71

01:22:06.000 I knew about the Khmer Rouge.

01:22:08.000 I knew about the Communist Chinese killing 60 million. 0.92

01:22:11.000 I understood, and I also had already read, I guess I was kind of lucky, when I first read in like, I think it was the eighth grade, 1984, I had already knew about Eric Blair, because my parents were fans of the man, you know, the pen name,

01:22:25.000 George Orwell, and I knew that he had been in the Imperial Police in India, and I'd already read To Kill an Elephant, and I'd already read about Down and Out in Paris, or parts of it, and some essays that boiled it down, and I knew that he worked as a propagandist at BBC, so I knew this was him taking reality and kind of conceptualizing it As what he saw as fascism and communism really at the end of the day being the same thing.

01:22:49.000 These cults of power and how he saw the West in the future sliding into that by 1984.

01:22:56.000 I'll be honest with you, I partly wish I'd never read that book, but it's one of those things that permeates everything about you.

01:23:01.000 I think that's my first experience of you.

01:23:02.000 Now, my second experience of you is that I was trying, I've been trying to research exactly what TV program it was.

01:23:09.000 It was something like Louis Theroux, but it wasn't actually Louis Theroux.

01:23:12.000 And you were on telly, and you came across to me at the time as a crazed nutter, and you were banging on about how we're all going to be microchipped, and everything's terrifying, and all this kind of stuff.

01:23:22.000 And I remember thinking, man, this guy's out of control. 0.97

01:23:24.000 He's insane!

01:23:25.000 Now this is maybe 97 or 98, this is quite early on. 0.91

01:23:30.000 Maybe you were, I think you'd been involved in the Waco stuff and you were this kind of religious right-wing nutter as you came across.

01:23:37.000 No, no, no, I mean there's a misconception because Wikipedia says it and won't change it.

01:23:42.000 I had exposed That, along with many others, and there was a film that got Academy Award nomination, Waco Rules of Engagement, that came out in 1995, where it showed the Delta Force machine gunning and killing the Branch Davidians, and I'd read the federal documents and knew it was admitted by the Army, but then the national news would say people didn't know what really happened.

01:24:03.000 And so I went and got to know the surviving Davidians, and they weren't what we'd heard, they were certainly weird, And so then, one of my friends who was a builder said, oh, they want a memorial chapel for like the 20 survivors to have memorials. 0.83

01:24:16.000 And then I put it out on radio, let's build a shack, and all these engineers showed up, took control of it, and built a memorial church, and then it was spun in the media that I was the new Koresh, you know, basically running all of this, which is just absolute pure crap.

01:24:29.000 You can read USA Today, the rest of it.

01:24:31.000 We built a memorial church for all those that died, including the BATF.

01:24:36.000 Yeah, it's an interesting thing because Waco, I mean I was talking to a guy called Kevin Booth, who I think you know as well, who was involved in kind of filming Waco and filming the stuff that happened there.

01:24:47.000 And Waco is a really important thing.

01:24:48.000 Well he was there when it happened.

01:24:49.000 He went with Bill Hicks when Bill was staying with him in Austin, shortly before he died, I think he died the same year, and he went out there and his pancreatic cancer moved so quickly that he didn't even know he had cancer then, and then a few months later he knew he had it, and a few months later he was dead.

01:25:06.000 But they actually got on a dirt road and went back and got closer video than anybody got once it had been cordoned off just a few days before the Delta Force went in and slaughtered those people.

01:25:17.000 I think Waco had a radicalizing effect on kind of the right-wing conspiracy theory movement sort of deep in the heart of Texas.

01:25:26.000 Well, it is true that I was more right-wing, and I hadn't broken out of the left-right paradigm at that time.

01:25:31.000 That's right.

01:25:32.000 I mean, this is the thing.

01:25:34.000 I've got that theory about Waker, and I think it's quite significant. 0.96

01:25:37.000 But you, at the time, you were painted as a religious person, you were banging on about microchips, and I thought you were insane.

01:25:44.000 Right.

01:25:45.000 Then the third experience that I would have had with you would be, I think, possibly in the film, Richard Laker film, and I think it's called Waking Life.

01:25:57.000 And you were ranting in that, and it was an entertaining, it was an amusing rant, and you were, you know, you were a film star.

01:26:04.000 I remember recognizing you at the time, and you were gathering a level of celebrity and fame.

01:26:08.000 What were you going through at that time?

01:26:10.000 What happened in your life?

01:26:11.000 Well, I've never tried to be in movies, and I've actually been invited to come out to Hollywood and have some medium-sized parts just out of the gates.

01:26:19.000 They want me to play villains, bad guys, corrupt cops.

01:26:22.000 They say that's kind of how I come across as a tough guy, which I never really thought of myself as that.

01:26:29.000 But Rick Linklater called me.

01:26:31.000 He'd seen my film.

01:26:33.000 Police State 2000 in 1999 and Rick had heard people say it wasn't real because it showed videos of Marines training with foreign troops to confiscate our guns and put us in FEMA camps.

01:26:46.000 I'd just gone to an urban warfare drill and they were training to do this and admitting it and people thought that I'd hired aircraft carriers and hovercrafts and tanks and wheeled vehicles and Cobra gunships.

01:26:57.000 Supercobras.

01:26:58.000 Helicopters.

01:26:59.000 And Rick was laughing because he'd heard people say that in his office.

01:27:03.000 And he had known actors who were hired by the Marines to play the parts of Americans being put in camps in Oakland, California.

01:27:09.000 And he was just laughing as a director.

01:27:11.000 He said, he said, I've already finished writing this film.

01:27:14.000 It's influenced by Philip K. Dick.

01:27:15.000 It's about dreaming and about, you know, people that live these lives separately dreaming and how that then interfaces with reality.

01:27:22.000 And he said, but the main reason I called you is it's just so funny that people think you could hire aircraft carriers and troops and tanks.

01:27:30.000 Man, this is really a good film.

01:27:32.000 And, of course, I had made it myself, edited it, shot it, put it together.

01:27:36.000 It really wasn't that good, in my view.

01:27:37.000 Edited it on a three-quarter inch deck, shot it on VHS with like a $100 camera.

01:27:41.000 And that was because I started out as an AXS TV host in 1995, got in a radio show in 96.

01:27:48.000 And so people would say, there's no UNC.

01:27:50.000 signs at the parks, and I would go get video of it, and then, you know, made my first film.

01:27:56.000 And so I just fell into filmmaking, and that's how Hollywood got to know me, and so I had a little cameo that they say is the most popular, and then years later, I think in like 2001, That was in 99, and then the film came out in 2000.

01:28:09.000 I got invited to Rick Linklater's ranch, and he's at this huge house.

01:28:12.000 He built himself this huge giant room on top, you know, on the second floor, and there's this huge poster of me.

01:28:18.000 Since this interview is about me, it's weird to talk about myself, but I'm happy to do it.

01:28:21.000 This huge blow-up of me in waking life in his house.

01:28:26.000 And, you know, right next to a famous poster from Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory, you know, right next to it, it covered another wall, the one with Kurt Russell.

01:28:37.000 And so, wow, you're really a fan, Rick.

01:28:39.000 I listen every day.

01:28:39.000 So of course I'm a fan.

01:28:40.000 And then he put me in another movie with Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder, Woody Harrelson and some other folks, Scanner Darkly.

01:28:47.000 The studio kind of took that film away at the end and cut some scenes, extra stuff that I'm in.

01:28:51.000 Out of it, I'm in one big scene with Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder.

01:28:54.000 And so that's how I got to know Rick.

01:28:55.000 And then I had Rick on about a year and a half ago when Scanner Darkly came out.

01:28:59.000 And he had been making a film with Bruce Willis here in Austin, and I'm not a star chaser.

01:29:05.000 I never called him, never bugged him.

01:29:06.000 I even got him out to a party, and I just kind of intimidated by it.

01:29:06.000 I knew he was in town.

01:29:09.000 I didn't go.

01:29:09.000 That happens all the time.

01:29:11.000 I promise though to start doing that.

01:29:13.000 They keep wanting me to come kind of get involved in all this stuff, and now I'm not going to turn it down anymore because But anyways, I mean, that's a side issue, because it's too much of an opportunity to get the word out.

01:29:21.000 I'd rather just do radio and make my own films and write articles, and I'm not even that allured by Hollywood, though most people would kill themselves to be part of it.

01:29:29.000 And he comes on the show about his film, and he just says, oh yeah, 9-11's an inside job, I've been handing your films out for years, I gave Bruce Willis your film Martial Law, and I gave him Terror Storm, and he said he's not going to be a neocon follower or a war supporter anymore, he now understands the paradigm and knows it's an inside job.

01:29:46.000 and uh... that blew everybody away and then six months later Vanity Fair came out when his latest Die Hard came out about a year ago and said Bruce Willis now thinks the government killed Kennedy and it had the quotes of him saying the people that killed Kennedy run our country now and are basically behind 9-11 so there was the confirmation of that and then to have Willie Nelson call me up and and and say that I woke him up ten years ago and now he's ready to say it's an inside job to meet a year and a half ago

01:30:13.000 Governor Jesse Ventura, and to give me some of my films, and he said, well, I know the government staged Gulf of Tonkin to get us into NAMM, I know the government staged other stuff, I know about Northwoods, but I just can't believe they'd do it, but I do question.

01:30:25.000 Then he's on the show last week with me, and he just goes, "I'm ready to go public when we come back out of break." And he comes out and says the government basically did it and made it all over AP, TV, hundreds of newspapers.

01:30:36.000 And it's like I've got rock bands calling me up, big ones, most of them don't want to come on air.

01:30:41.000 I mean, of the top five Hollywood stars, four of them have called me, but they don't want to come on air.

01:30:45.000 All the big names, they all listen.

01:30:47.000 And I keep my head about it, and I work in my little hovel, my little office here.

01:30:52.000 But it is huge, and the responsibility I've got is just amazing.

01:30:56.000 I'm 34 years old, I'm a hothead.

01:30:58.000 I've got so much responsibility now.

01:31:00.000 So many people listen to what I say, but they found that if they check out what I say, no matter how crazy, it's documented.

01:31:06.000 And I think that's the dynamism that's going here.

01:31:10.000 And my God, I'm counting every day above ground as a good day, because I know I am not making the New World Order happy.

01:31:15.000 Let me come on to that, in fact.

01:31:17.000 Like you say, at that point in my life, when I saw that first cameo in that film, you were a celebrity in that respect. 0.96

01:31:24.000 You were kind of like a crazy, charismatic, still-a-nut job, I'm afraid. 0.77

01:31:29.000 But that's how I kind of saw you. 0.99

01:31:31.000 Then everything I talked about came true.

01:31:33.000 Well, it's not strictly true, but... Oh, really?

01:31:36.000 Well, a lot of it, but listen, let me come on to that next bit.

01:31:39.000 So there's the celebrity aspect, and you are, to a certain extent, definitely a cult celebrity, and that's something I've never heard you speak about before, really.

01:31:49.000 What happened next?

01:31:49.000 I'm now the king of conspiracy, the icon.

01:31:53.000 But I don't... I eschew that label because it's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy fact.

01:32:00.000 And you say a lot of what I've said hasn't happened or isn't going on.

01:32:02.000 Maybe you're just not aware it's going on.

01:32:04.000 Well, yeah, hang on, let me come on to it.

01:32:06.000 I mean, I want to do this, you know, in time and, you know, we're going to edit this, we're going to turn it into a special.

01:32:12.000 But anyway, yeah, what happened was, you kind of, so you're on the fringes as a not-job celebrity would be the way that it would have worked.

01:32:20.000 And then 9-11 happened, and when that happened, I remember being in a radio studio and knowing I didn't know what was happening.

01:32:30.000 And also the confusion of it.

01:32:33.000 Initially, everybody didn't know what was happening and it was all very confusing.

01:32:36.000 And the next thing we know, we're getting handed a very clear version of events.

01:32:40.000 Very clear indeed.

01:32:41.000 And I remember thinking at the time, you and another guy, David Icke, who I'd read of and was aware of and found amusing.

01:32:49.000 I remember thinking of him and you at the time and then seeing you ranting about it and seeming a little bit more eloquent and making a little bit more sense.

01:33:00.000 How has that period been for you?

01:33:01.000 Because initially, like you say, you were a kind of a fringe nutjob, then something like that happened, and now you're becoming, certainly making a lot more sense to people.

01:33:09.000 Well, let's be clear, when I was 21 years old, I was on the air.

01:33:13.000 And I did it out of passion and belief, and I would see incredible things in legislation, incredible things in the back of the newspaper, or in industry publications, and I would then cover it.

01:33:25.000 And I started studying even more history, and I learned that it was declassified, that the U.S.

01:33:30.000 government had staged hundreds of terror attacks all over the world, had staged attacks to blame it on Mohammed Mosaddegh, to blame it on his government to overthrow Iran, in 1953 with the British government, the Gulf of Tonkin had been staged, And then I saw the news prepping everybody, saying there's going to be terror.

01:33:49.000 When the terror comes, give up all your rights.

01:33:52.000 There's going to be a war on terror.

01:33:53.000 Everything's going to change.

01:33:55.000 And I saw them showing bin Laden on the news.

01:33:57.000 And I knew that the FBI had cooked the bomb, trained the driver, been intimately involved, basically provocateuring the first World Trade Center attack.

01:34:04.000 But in 93, they did find real Muslims to do it, though. 1.00

01:34:06.000 But they were total idiots. 1.00

01:34:09.000 Two of them were registered with New York as mentally retarded on welfare. 1.00

01:34:13.000 And so it was a provocateur action where they set somebody up and so I went on air before the attacks and I said the government's going to stage an attack probably on the World Trade Center.

01:34:22.000 It'll be blamed on their CIA asset Osama Bin Laden.

01:34:26.000 Jimmy Vaughn is a well-known blues singer, double trouble, fabulous Thunderbirds.

01:34:31.000 He got his brother Stevie Ray Vaughn into music, lives here in Austin, a good friend of mine.

01:34:35.000 He remembers seeing me two months before 9-11 on TV for two hours straight saying, call the White House, they're going to probably attack the World Trade Center using Bin Laden.

01:34:42.000 I was saying, look at how they're getting you ready in the media, look how they're prepping you.

01:34:45.000 I mean, I saw them introducing the story.

01:34:48.000 And then he'll never forget seeing, and then two months later it happened and he was a big Bush supporter and everything and that totally changed Jimmy Vaughn and it totally changed a lot of other people that saw that.

01:34:57.000 I did that on the radio show for months as well up until the day

01:35:02.000 of the attacks and then the day of the attacks within about twenty four minutes they were on every major TV network saying Bin Laden did it the world's gonna change it's a new world order we've got to attack these countries then I pointed out it was in Newsweek that Bush had had forty four thousand US troops eighteen thousand British troops two aircraft carriers you know massed in the different countries around Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, two aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf ready to attack and he launched the order to attack

01:35:30.000 Uh... Afghanistan in one week, the day before 9-11.

01:35:34.000 You see, before 9-11.

01:35:37.000 But he had everything masked there in the months before.

01:35:40.000 You don't just mask 44,000 US troops, 18,000 British troops, you see, and then it just goes out from there.

01:35:46.000 Well, the thing with it is, Alex, is that I often wonder how far, you know, the rabbit hole goes, because, uh, you know, the September the 11th stuff happened, and people like you had been talking about it.

01:35:59.000 And then it happened and all of the things that you said, I mean listen, I remember 7-7 here in the UK, the day that happened I was taking calls and I was taking calls left, right and centre from people banging on about how we need ID cards now.

01:36:11.000 Despite the fact that they even acknowledged themselves, the callers themselves were saying, I don't see why ID cards would help but probably it would be a good thing. 0.98

01:36:18.000 Well a government study, a government study in England, several have said it will make it worse.

01:36:23.000 So, this is what I'm saying to you.

01:36:25.000 How far does the rabbit hole go with these things?

01:36:28.000 September the 11th, I think, for me, personally, I'd put a question mark above it and I'd say, I don't know what happened there.

01:36:35.000 But then, with microchips for example, I remember you talking about microchips, thinking this guy's crazy, and then in this very studio, I've had people who have had microchips stuck in their arm for a bit of fun, and they're just hanging out, and you know, you can get it done down the road from where this studio is, and they're just normal people, they're not far out nutjobs.

01:36:54.000 Well listen, how did I know in 96, in 2000, That I've said it will be in bars, it will be to get into topless bars, it will be to get into luxury cruise ships, it will be to get into security areas and work for the government, it will be given to Alzheimer's patients.

01:37:08.000 And then everybody goes, Alex Jones is Nostradamus, you know, he knows everything.

01:37:13.000 No!

01:37:14.000 The Pentagon in 96 and in 2000, and the Federation of American Scientists put it out both times, said you will have universal adaptations of brain chips in a hive mind with the government controlling everyone and controlling the pleasure centers to where people are literally like the Matrix

01:37:31.000 That's where they got that, was from government documents, where we'll all basically live in pods and have instant pleasure centers, always taken care of, and that they would start with selling it as implantable chips for security, getting into luxury bars as a status symbol.

01:37:46.000 Now, that is in, and by the way, that's in my book, Descent into Tyranny.

01:37:49.000 I took the Army documents and put it in there.

01:37:51.000 I mean, the British Ministry of Defense prospectus on the next ten years, what the military futurists say they believe will happen is flash mobs, martial law, the London Guardian published some of it, you can read the whole 125 page report if you want, 120 something.

01:38:05.000 And it says they're going to take all our rights, that the elite are going to wage war against the people, that governments may use neutron bombs to reduce population, bioweapons on us.

01:38:15.000 Dick Cheney wrote in the PNAC document, September 20, 2000, published by the Project for the American Century, that they want to legitimize in the media the use of race-specific bioweapons to kill certain races.

01:38:25.000 They're all eugenicists.

01:38:27.000 And so all I'm going off of is what they say the plan is.

01:38:31.000 And it's so horrible that you can't get people to believe it, because the average person just goes, I mean, that's crazy.

01:38:39.000 It is crazy.

01:38:40.000 That's how I react.

01:38:41.000 Hang on though, this is the thing you see.

01:38:42.000 Now remember, remember my background.

01:38:44.000 I'm coming to this from a perspective where initially, Alex, it was amusing.

01:38:48.000 Alright, so I'm looking at it and I'm looking at you, David Icke, people talking about UFOs, Hollow Earth, all this kind of crazy stuff.

01:38:57.000 All in the same bracket, and I'm thinking, that's odd, isn't it?

01:38:59.000 This is kind of amusing.

01:39:01.000 And then, next thing you know, it starts getting real, and this is what I'm saying to you, you know, how far does the rabbit hole go?

01:39:07.000 I mean, one of the things, I know, last time I interviewed you, I felt like I was kind of in a fight with you.

01:39:12.000 You almost throttled me live on air, which was fine, but...

01:39:16.000 But one of the things about it is you said to me very strongly then, you always get cluttered in with the UFO crowd and the nut jobs and stuff like that. 0.58

01:39:25.000 So I'm going to test you with a few different conspiracy theories and you can tell me if there's any truth in them that you know of or not.

01:39:31.000 Okay, well let me just first preface it with this because this is absolutely key and this is one of the best interviews ever.

01:39:35.000 I love the questions you're asking me, sir.

01:39:37.000 They're just fabulous.

01:39:40.000 I have been successful for several reasons.

01:39:42.000 I mean, I am entertaining.

01:39:44.000 I am bombastic.

01:39:45.000 I am animated.

01:39:46.000 I'm charismatic.

01:39:47.000 That's all natural.

01:39:48.000 I'm just a hillbilly.

01:39:49.000 But I've got a decent brain.

01:39:50.000 My parents are pretty smart.

01:39:52.000 And I've got a decent education.

01:39:53.000 And I have an open mind.

01:39:55.000 But I always, the key is, I always stick to what I can prove and what happens in all of this is you learn you're being lied to about so many things.

01:40:02.000 You learn the world is so much stranger than you originally thought that you then tend to just believe anything that's alternative and then you immediately, you know, it's like a competition of who can get into the most, you know, extreme things.

01:40:16.000 You know, this is all a false reality or the dream of some great, you know, God or, you know, we're all Aliens ourselves, or you know, Cuckoo from Cocoa Puffs is our leader, or Church of the Subgenius.

01:40:30.000 I don't do that.

01:40:31.000 I stick to what I can prove, what I can document.

01:40:34.000 Go ahead.

01:40:35.000 Okay, so I want maybe yes or no's for these, and some of this we might not be able to broadcast in the UK because of UK law.

01:40:42.000 So, for example, Diana.

01:40:44.000 Was she assassinated?

01:40:46.000 80 plus percent of Brits believe she was killed and all the evidence shows that she was killed and she said months before that she named who she believed was going to kill her and that they threatened it would be a fake auto accident.

01:40:58.000 So yes, I believe Diana was assassinated.

01:41:01.000 Okay, that goes down as a yes.

01:41:03.000 UFOs.

01:41:04.000 UFOs, yes or no?

01:41:06.000 Are they real?

01:41:08.000 There are unidentified flying objects, but most of those are government craft.

01:41:12.000 Do I believe that there are other life forms in the universe?

01:41:15.000 We would be incredibly arrogant to think that there wasn't, but I think most of it's hype.

01:41:20.000 I mean, there is no yes or no on that, because I could say yes, that there are unidentified flying objects, but are little green men piloting them? 0.78

01:41:28.000 No.

01:41:29.000 One of the popular ones, in fact, is that the human race was tampered with by alien beings at some point in prehistory.

01:41:37.000 Do you believe in that?

01:41:39.000 Now, because I've interviewed a lot of Nobel Prize winners and top geneticists, they're saying that now the more they look at it, the more human DNA compared to other animals, other mammals, looks like it's been manipulated.

01:41:49.000 So there's... I mean, again, that's not my area because I can't prove it, but it is interesting.

01:41:56.000 Okay.

01:41:58.000 How about the idea that the Earth itself is hollow and you can go inside there and it's got a whole ecosystem and everything within?

01:42:05.000 No, I don't believe in hollow earth theories, to the extent of the classic one of there's a sun in the middle of the earth, and there's dinosaurs and pterodactyls flying around, smoking cigarettes, and there's cavemen down there, and beautiful maidens in bubble baths.

01:42:21.000 But I do know that there are a lot of subterranean, giant areas that are worlds in and of themselves.

01:42:28.000 I mean, almost the entirety of Texas has a huge aquifer under it.

01:42:33.000 And they, you know, they've gone into caves that are a hundred miles long and they never find the ends of.

01:42:37.000 So, I know where those legends come from.

01:42:40.000 So, in a technical way, there is a hollow earth, but not in the kook way of it completely being hollow.

01:42:46.000 America is soon to be plunged into civil war from which a fascist state will rise.

01:42:53.000 No.

01:42:53.000 I believe we're defeating them and I think it'll be a slow slide into third world-dom and kind of a collapse like the Soviet Union, which is better than the fascist winning.

01:43:02.000 What about the idea of shape-shifting lizards controlling the world?

01:43:08.000 No, I don't have any evidence to that.

01:43:11.000 Right, okay.

01:43:12.000 I mean, these are, like I say, I could go on forever, do you know?

01:43:16.000 That kind of covers the main ones for me.

01:43:18.000 But you do get lumped in with that group of people.

01:43:23.000 How are you going to get away from those kind of theories that you don't believe in?

01:43:28.000 People develop their own palette, their own bouquet.

01:43:31.000 They learn to differentiate.

01:43:36.000 It's not my job to do everything perfectly or have all the answers.

01:43:39.000 I've got a duty to tell the truth, to expose the corruption, to try to defend the innocent.

01:43:44.000 Just because you have a huge genre of mainstream media lying, telling the truth, spinning, agents of influence, all of it that's come out.

01:43:52.000 Doesn't then mean that the whole alternative media is going to be true.

01:43:55.000 I mean, a lot of these people are just schizophrenics on the internet, you know, who think that their landlady above them is sending proton beams into their head.

01:44:02.000 I mean, that's not my job to respond to all that.

01:44:05.000 People are going to see the things I've talked about coming true and happening, even if they don't check out what I'm saying.

01:44:11.000 If they check out what I'm saying, they're going to find out it's true right away.

01:44:13.000 But even if they don't believe me and all that guy's a nutter, Unfortunately, it's going to happen within the next few years, as everything else I've said has, and then they'll go, oh, that Alex Jones, he was right.

01:44:24.000 One of the most obvious fantasy stories for me personally, and I don't intend to offend you with this, but is the story about religion and the Bible and stuff like that, because that seems to me, I mean, pretty far out, but you're a religious person, right?

01:44:38.000 Well, I mean, I've been brought up a Christian, and my heritage is a Christian, a Protestant, Baptist, And I do believe in the teachings of Jesus, and I do believe in a higher power, and I don't like what the churches have done with it.

01:44:50.000 I'm not a Christian, if the mainline Christianity in the U.S., warmongering, praying for giant Cadillacs and SUVs and diamonds, I mean, if that's the type of Christian, then I'm not. 0.98

01:45:03.000 But I am a Christian that believes in Jesus and follows Jesus Christ, and I am someone who believes in trying to help the weak.

01:45:11.000 And I am someone who believes in the Mosaic Common Law that is the basis of our Anglo-Saxon 1215 Magna Carta, 1776 Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights Constitution.

01:45:23.000 So it is who I am, it is my heritage, and I don't throw out my... See, the globalists want you to throw out your Christian heritage because they want to replace it with their bioethics, eugenics religion, and they're really religious.

01:45:35.000 They just don't want you to know they are.

01:45:37.000 They're really a cultist, most of them.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, I mean, one of the things that I've heard, I'm not sure if it was you, because it's hard to distinguish where I get all these conspiracy theories I've heard about from, but one of the conspiracy theories I've heard is that there's an idea to set up a global religion that will tie in to all these ideas.

01:45:54.000 And it seems odd to me, Alex, that you believe in religion, that you have religious faith, even though that's your culture.

01:46:01.000 Listen, you're from America, man. 0.85

01:46:02.000 Your culture involves all sorts of things, particularly believing in the reasons for the war in Iraq, and it seems odd that you've challenged those aspects, but not the religious aspects.

01:46:11.000 Well, I can't get people to admit that they're building FEMA camps, concentration camps, when it's in major newspapers.

01:46:17.000 San Francisco Chronicle, Houston Chronicle.

01:46:19.000 And so I'm not about to wade into the whole religious fight and whole religious debate with people, and that's something that I also don't engage in.

01:46:27.000 I have a news radio show, but I make no secret about That I believe in the tenets that are in the New Testament.

01:46:36.000 Because if you don't have that, what else are you going to have?

01:46:39.000 You see, what's happening is, when I say they're setting up a world religion, the Pope has called for it in a New World Order.

01:46:46.000 The United Nations has put out thousands of documents saying they want it, but they have to first destroy the other religions Or try to discredit them so they can then bring in their new pantheistic earth worship religion where the elite play God and where they sell us on carbon taxes which are really about controlling human development and activity.

01:47:07.000 Well recently we've had Tony Blair making terrifying speeches about religion Which frightened me to the very core.

01:47:14.000 He was banging on about... I mean he's talking about interfaith cooperation and all these kind of... Exactly!

01:47:19.000 They want to merge all the religions in, and then it's hate speech if you don't agree with every other religion, and then you go to jail.

01:47:26.000 Okay, so that's the attack on your basic Magna Carta.

01:47:29.000 Tony Blair...

01:47:30.000 He's into religion.

01:47:32.000 He's always acting like he's a humanist atheist, but then he channels the spirit of the light every morning.

01:47:36.000 That's been in major papers.

01:47:38.000 His wife goes to weird religious ceremonies.

01:47:41.000 He flies around to sacred sites to do Aztec rebirthing rituals.

01:47:46.000 He channels the spirit of the light.

01:47:47.000 You live in London.

01:47:49.000 You know that's well known about Blair, right?

01:47:51.000 But I'm asking you, I'm curious, are you aware of that?

01:47:55.000 Yeah, listen, I personally am.

01:47:57.000 Whether or not the people listening to me at the moment are, I don't know.

01:48:00.000 So there's an example, and then I can go down the line with all these people, and they're completely obsessed with the occult.

01:48:06.000 Alex, let me stop you there.

01:48:07.000 This is one of the things that initially made me think that you weren't quite on the same wavelength as I. Because religion, to me, strikes me as one of those things that marks someone out as slightly insane.

01:48:20.000 Well, again, that's what atheists always say to me.

01:48:23.000 They say, why are you covering the bohemian grove?

01:48:25.000 The devil doesn't exist.

01:48:26.000 And I go, well, even if you don't believe the devil exists, they do.

01:48:30.000 And as a group consciousness, they are manifesting that.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:48:35.000 Hey, let me just stop you.

01:48:36.000 Have you ever been in the woods?

01:48:37.000 Well, we have family property here in Texas.

01:48:40.000 Thousands of acres, going back to Spanish land grants.

01:48:43.000 And I'll be out walking on that a couple times a year when I go there.

01:48:46.000 My whole life I go down there many times and one time I had this feeling someone was watching me and I walked about 200 yards to the woods to a high tree where somebody was illegally hunting out of season up in a deer stand and I felt them looking at me.

01:48:59.000 How many times in a restaurant do you feel someone looking at you and you turn and someone is looking at you?

01:49:04.000 The point is there's more to all of this.

01:49:07.000 And all these people try to put it in a box, and these scam artists, religious leaders, I do throw all that out.

01:49:14.000 But what I'm saying is that there's something to it.

01:49:18.000 And the way I manifest that is in my Christian faith, which I believe in.

01:49:23.000 Well, this is what I'm saying to you, is that I understand that the world is a strange and complex place, but putting my faith in something like the Bible is something that doesn't bear out to me logically.

01:49:33.000 But it's so popular to hate the Bible, you know?

01:49:35.000 See, I always do what's unpopular.

01:49:36.000 I don't hate the Bible.

01:49:37.000 I'm not saying I hate the Bible. 0.71

01:49:38.000 I'm just saying I regard it as nonsense.

01:49:41.000 But, I mean, have you read the global warming thing as a religious belief?

01:49:46.000 I agree with that, yeah.

01:49:47.000 Listen, I think that's absolutely right, yeah.

01:49:50.000 I mean, have you ever really read the Bible?

01:49:54.000 Yeah, I have, unfortunately.

01:49:55.000 You know, Alex, that's the weird thing.

01:49:56.000 I read a load of stuff I don't believe, and I have.

01:50:00.000 I've read the Bible cover to cover.

01:50:02.000 Honestly.

01:50:03.000 And you've got problems with all the Genesis stuff, right?

01:50:05.000 Like one man and one woman having all the people and they're all different colors and stuff? 0.98

01:50:08.000 No, not just that.

01:50:09.000 Listen, the whole book is... I mean, a lot of it is such and such, begat such and such.

01:50:15.000 But I had to read it for a course at university.

01:50:17.000 I mean, I have read the whole thing, and it doesn't...

01:50:20.000 It's just, it doesn't ring true.

01:50:22.000 I don't even know if I could say I read the whole thing.

01:50:25.000 Well, maybe you should.

01:50:26.000 I mean, this is one of the things.

01:50:27.000 I've read a great deal of it.

01:50:28.000 It strikes me as one of those, one of the sort of incongruities in your character.

01:50:32.000 Do you know what?

01:50:33.000 Alex, we're out of time.

01:50:34.000 I could talk to you forever, for days and days, but we're on air soon, so I've got to go.

01:50:38.000 Well, listen, I appreciate you, and I hope folks will visit InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:50:42.000 I hope that plug makes it out there to your fine audience, and I just hope that they'll judge the information for themselves.

01:50:49.000 The point is, I don't have a religious show.

01:50:51.000 I don't think it's an incongruity.

01:50:54.000 I have a show about what the New World Order is doing and what they believe, and so to talk about, you know, who I am and what I believe, what my grandma believes, you know, religiously, I think doesn't even really enter into the equation.

01:51:06.000 Listen, Alex, the fact that I don't agree with you on everything doesn't mean to say that I don't congratulate you for what you do and wish you to continue.

01:51:12.000 Well, don't let them fluoridate your water over there in England.

01:51:15.000 All the major studies show it'll reduce your IQ points.

01:51:17.000 Not another person telling me that.

01:51:19.000 Listen, I can't be bothered to buy bottled water.

01:51:21.000 They do fluoridize it here.

01:51:24.000 Yeah, they just started and you won't be as smart in a few years.

01:51:28.000 It really hurts children bad.

01:51:29.000 Would you read the studies on fluorine?

01:51:31.000 Yeah, listen, I've had so many people tell me about this stuff.

01:51:33.000 I know what you're talking about, but I'm lazy.

01:51:35.000 I'm fundamentally lazy.

01:51:37.000 Maybe, listen, I'll get on it.

01:51:38.000 I promise you.

01:51:39.000 Alright, thank you so much.

01:51:40.000 As long as you look into the religion.

01:51:41.000 Take care, man.

01:51:41.000 All the best.

01:51:42.000 Thank you.

01:51:42.000 There we go.

01:51:44.000 Yeah, hopefully that makes sense.

01:51:45.000 Oh, you're live, aren't you?

01:51:47.000 Hey, listen, guys.

01:51:47.000 Alright, bye.

01:51:48.000 I really appreciate you coming on my show.

01:51:51.000 No worries.

01:51:51.000 Take care.

01:51:52.000 Bye-bye.

01:51:52.000 Take care.

01:51:53.000 Alright, there they go, ladies and gentlemen.

01:51:57.000 Now we will continue into our number six.

01:51:59.000 I've decided we're going further.

01:52:02.000 In, through, and beyond.

01:52:06.000 Let me give out the number.

01:52:07.000 512-646-5400.

01:52:07.000 512-646-5400. 512-646-5400. It is now 3.52 and 7 seconds.

01:52:18.000 If you're listening to the audio at InfoWars.com or the internet InfoWars streams are all over the web.

01:52:24.000 Remember you can see a live vid cam right now.

01:52:27.000 We have a two camera shot in here.

01:52:29.000 We're going to have guest cams in the near future.

01:52:32.000 We also have a document cam.

01:52:35.000 And the document cam also allows us to go to our internet feed where we can play YouTube videos and things like that for you.

01:52:45.000 There I am on Shoutcast looking at that at the time.

01:52:48.000 In fact, I'm just going to go ahead and go over to InfoWars.com right now.

01:52:53.000 Australian man sentenced to three years for laser pointer assault on police helicopter.

01:52:59.000 That's right, an Al-Qaeda attack.

01:53:00.000 Of course, it wasn't an Al-Qaeda attack, but that's a tyranny always going on for folks for the most basic of reasons.

01:53:06.000 That's my life.

01:53:07.000 I have another interview tonight that I booked myself at 10 p.m.

01:53:12.000 and I did a radio interview last night in Canada and then I have that stuff I set up and then Trey Kincaid sets up interviews and Amanda sets up interviews and I do my local once a week TV show and so this is a day in the life of Alex Jones.

01:53:26.000 Is it tiring just watching it?

01:53:28.000 Well, try doing it!

01:53:30.000 The problem is that I feel great, and I'm enjoying this radio show, and I've got a lot of other news I want to cover, so I've decided just to go into the next hour.

01:53:38.000 Sorry folks, that's just the way it is.

01:53:39.000 512-646-5400.

01:53:41.000 512-646-5400.

01:53:44.000 And I see that we have a mass of phone calls here that we aren't going to take now.

01:53:52.000 And I'll probably only go 10-15 minutes to the next hour, because I want to miss traffic going home to see my children.

01:53:56.000 Then I'm going to sneak back tonight and do some work.

01:53:58.000 Unless, I think Rob takes off once or twice a week when he wants.

01:54:01.000 I don't think my editor, my main editor, Aaron's out there working studiously, doing a great job multi-fastening out the window.

01:54:07.000 In fact, you want to see Aaron, folks?

01:54:09.000 Hey, you come in here, please, and aim the camera at Aaron.

01:54:12.000 No, no, no, you can't aim it.

01:54:14.000 The other fellow can aim it.

01:54:16.000 Dr. No can aim it.

01:54:17.000 And just to swivel over so we can see the illustrious Aaron, right out there working studiously.

01:54:27.000 Then you can see me on camera, too.

01:54:29.000 Hello, everyone.

01:54:29.000 You know, I get hyper.

01:54:34.000 When I'm doing the three-hour shows, we run out of time.

01:54:36.000 But now, now I can relax and be more expansive.

01:54:41.000 Maybe I can even do some Shakespeare for you.

01:54:44.000 To be or not to be, that is the question.

01:54:48.000 Whether it is nobler in the... Okay, I'm going to stop.

01:54:50.000 We're going to go to your phone calls right now.

01:54:52.000 Don't forget, PrisonPlanet.TV.

01:54:56.000 I think the Brits are still connected.

01:54:56.000 You know what?

01:55:00.000 I think the... Ah!

01:55:02.000 The redcoats are being sneaky! 1.00

01:55:05.000 I'm going to disconnect it myself.

01:55:10.000 I've disconnected them.

01:55:10.000 There!

01:55:11.000 I love this new setup in here.

01:55:14.000 Just buttons everywhere.

01:55:15.000 I can have some fun.

01:55:19.000 I am going to be dead dog tired later.

01:55:21.000 There was a time in my life where I did six hours a day on Genesis and I was doing two or three interviews a day then.

01:55:27.000 So that was probably about eight hours a day.

01:55:30.000 I've done fourteen hours of broadcast before.

01:55:32.000 I've counted it up.

01:55:34.000 I don't do that anymore.

01:55:35.000 I turn down most of the radio stations that want to do interviews.

01:55:38.000 And I'm always guilty when I turn them down.

01:55:40.000 I'm always guilty I go on and don't plug my videos.

01:55:43.000 I didn't plug them on that last show.

01:55:45.000 And I'm always, because I need to get them out to people, plus it gets funds in here, and I'm always guilty that I... What else was I guilty about?

01:55:55.000 Oh, I'm guilty when I don't take the interviews.

01:56:00.000 Because when I don't take the interviews and I go, oh man, I would have talked to tens of thousands of people.

01:56:05.000 Okay, enough about me.

01:56:05.000 I got in the habit of talking about myself during that interview.

01:56:09.000 Let's go ahead and take calls.

01:56:12.000 Jeremy in Alaska, holding like a trooper.

01:56:14.000 You, my friend, are on the air.

01:56:17.000 Yes, Alex, I'd like to say that I've heard about you for a long time.

01:56:23.000 A couple people pointed me in your direction before I ever even heard about you.

01:56:28.000 Have you heard of Dr. Ken Hovind?

01:56:30.000 It rings a bell.

01:56:31.000 Refresh my feeble memory.

01:56:33.000 Oh, this is a guy that went around and tried to prove that the Bible is a scientific fact, and it gives people $250,000 to prove one fact of evolution.

01:56:45.000 Oh yeah, I know who that is, yeah.

01:56:47.000 And then there was Tex Mars.

01:56:48.000 Yeah.

01:56:49.000 And then Myron Fagan.

01:56:52.000 Yes, what about those guys?

01:56:54.000 Well, it was just very interesting about them, because every time anybody would try to challenge their truth, They didn't have any very valuable arguments.

01:57:04.000 And I noticed that whenever you spout truth, people can't even phase it.

01:57:10.000 They just hide and all that kind of stuff.

01:57:14.000 And what I've noticed from the Word of God is that it says a wise man will hear and increase learning.

01:57:23.000 And the beginning of wisdom is to fear the Lord.

01:57:28.000 and to fear the Lord is to hate evil.

01:57:32.000 And I noticed that our actions have been doing this, and I noticed that a lot of people that we come across when we focus on 9-11 and all this kind of stuff, we run into a lot of spiritual wickedness.

01:57:46.000 A lot of people that are very weak, they don't believe in God because their education system.

01:57:52.000 Well, if you don't believe in God, you're going to believe in the world.

01:57:57.000 And the world's pretty wicked.

01:57:58.000 So, bottom line, we see healthier societies when they actually do follow what's in the Bible versus what we're doing today, and there's no doubt about that.

01:58:07.000 I mean, just the health laws alone are very sensible, and I appreciate your call.

01:58:13.000 You know, again, I'm not going to get into religious debates or arguments here.

01:58:17.000 It's just every time, almost every time I'm on British radio, they want to attack religion.

01:58:21.000 It's real trendy to do that, and my Christianity.

01:58:24.000 And it's just, it's a diversion, it's a distraction, but they can't help it.

01:58:27.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Anthony in Ohio.

01:58:31.000 You're on the air.

01:58:33.000 Oh, hey, Alex.

01:58:34.000 You there?

01:58:35.000 Alright.

01:58:35.000 Yes, sir.

01:58:37.000 How do you like the new format?

01:58:39.000 I love it.

01:58:40.000 It's interesting to see you on the video there.

01:58:46.000 Picking my nose, just like I did.

01:58:48.000 The problem is, is I'm on camera so much, I can't, you know, I can't control myself.

01:58:56.000 Oh, a lot of interesting points your callers brought up.

01:59:02.000 First of all, I'll kind of go through these real quickly.

01:59:04.000 I have a lot of points I want to kind of blaze through.

01:59:07.000 First of all, the whole religious thing.

01:59:09.000 I was actually an atheist before I kind of woke up to all this.

01:59:13.000 And like, you know, I started trying to kind of understand Well that's like B.F.

01:59:16.000 lead while they're doing this.

01:59:18.000 And, I mean, it really starts to wake you up and you realize, like, wow, these people are just, they're evil.

01:59:24.000 I mean, there's no, I mean, you know, I don't really, I don't really consider myself anything Well, that's like B.F. Skinner, you know, wrote several books with, you know, titles about just total human suffering.

01:59:38.000 And they said, oh, it's all scientific. 0.76

01:59:39.000 So what if you kill a bunch of people or kill your own kid? 0.70

01:59:41.000 You know, it's just beyond good and evil.

01:59:45.000 Well, again, they tell you there's no good and evil, so you can't make moral decisions so they can make all the decisions.

01:59:51.000 Once they tell you that, they're only telling you to be relativist, so you're like floating around.

01:59:55.000 You know, it's the old country song.

01:59:57.000 You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall over anything, you know.

02:00:01.000 Not a puppet on a string.

02:00:02.000 And of course there's all the religious nuts too. 0.91

02:00:06.000 Believe me, I get sick of the...

02:00:09.000 Those type of people, but the best people I know, the hardest working, the folks fighting the New World Order, the people that are really sweet and deep, you know, they are Christian.

02:00:17.000 And I've also met some Buddhists that are really sweet, nice people, but mostly Christians. 0.86

02:00:20.000 And so you also judge a tree by its fruits.

02:00:22.000 Go ahead.

02:00:23.000 Yeah, I was actually, well, I was raised Christian, but what really threw me off, you know, before I really opened up to the left-right paradigm, was all these mainline Christians, you know, talking about we have to nuke the Middle East, and you know, bomb this and that, you know, hate all this, 0.99

02:00:38.000 And just spewing out all this hate, and I was just like, man, I don't want to, you know, seeing all these mainline religious people, not really, you know, whatever, they're kind of compartmentalized, but just seeing all them kind of, you know, spewing all this hate, that's kind of what drove me away, and then, you know, being young and rebellious, and that was the whole kind of point with the religious part, but, you know. 0.73

02:01:01.000 But anyways, uh, second thing, uh, As far as the no playing thing, it's total, it's just, it's junk. 0.98

02:01:08.000 No, I mean, the videos they put up, most of them, it's just totally mentally ill. 0.93

02:01:14.000 You've got a lot of mentally ill, schizophrenics in people, and I'm not being mean, but that's really who they are. 1.00

02:01:17.000 I've met some of them.

02:01:20.000 But then you've got the controllers up above them, and it's real funny.

02:01:23.000 Well, it's like, why don't you focus on tangible evidence?

02:01:27.000 Why don't you focus on tangible things?

02:01:29.000 I mean, okay, so, there's a 0.001% chance, you know, they might have spaced me.

02:01:37.000 Okay, well, whatever, you know, why don't you focus on the tangible evidence, you know, such as bombs going off the building, you know.

02:01:44.000 The BBC, you know, reporting that, you know, that the buildings fell, but they were clearly in the background.

02:01:51.000 I mean, you know, focus on tangible things, and these no-plainers, they just sit around and say, you know, no planes, no planes, you know, and it just It's totally a way that makes this look like... Well, it's meant to get us to debate it instead of staying on track on the serious issues and it's meant for the national media to attack us.

02:02:07.000 The national media always brings that up, but never brings up all the serious issues.

02:02:10.000 I appreciate your call.

02:02:12.000 Now, here's the deal, folks.

02:02:13.000 I've decided to go to the 20 after.

02:02:16.000 How long is the Japanese TV thing that we've never streamed live?

02:02:19.000 This is an interview I did like a year ago with Japanese TV in New York, and we just posted on presentplanet.tv, but I want to stream it live for everybody, so even if you're not a presentplanet.tv member who can't see the video, either on a high-quality download or on the stream, you can at least hear the audio.

02:02:33.000 I think it's a pretty good interview.

02:02:36.000 I guess Aaron went and got something to eat, how dare him, after working since 9 this morning straight through, being sarcastic.

02:02:42.000 It doesn't matter, just however long the Japanese TV is.

02:02:45.000 We're going to play that in about 10 minutes when I end here.

02:02:47.000 Or 15 minutes, I guess, to be technical.

02:02:49.000 17 minutes and 20 seconds.

02:02:51.000 Let's go ahead and... By the way, if you just tuned in to the streams, you're used to the three hours, three hour live Genesis Show, and you just popped in, and you're going, what is this?

02:03:02.000 There's no commercials, there's no music, there's no bumpers.

02:03:05.000 It's Alex in a little bit more relaxed format.

02:03:09.000 What's going on?

02:03:11.000 I've been doing Genesis Radio for 11 years.

02:03:15.000 I have been doing 3 hours a day for 10.

02:03:17.000 I have been doing syndicated radio for 12.

02:03:22.000 I've been doing radio for 13 and access about six months more than 13, getting close to 14.

02:03:30.000 And I have added a fourth hour.

02:03:37.000 Well, now you're hearing a fifth hour.

02:03:39.000 In fact, now we're into the sixth hour.

02:03:45.000 How many hours are we?

02:03:46.000 11 a.m.

02:03:47.000 to 4 p.m.

02:03:49.000 That's five, and now we're into the sixth hour.

02:03:52.000 We're going into the sixth hour here, and you're going to hear me do a A fourth hour almost every day.

02:04:03.000 Some days you'll see new video productions and things in the fourth hour.

02:04:07.000 It's going to be on Genesis.

02:04:08.000 Stations want it.

02:04:11.000 We need to be on the Star Guide, the Shortwave, the AM and FM dials.

02:04:14.000 So we're going to do that.

02:04:15.000 But I'm having fun for a few weeks without the commercials.

02:04:18.000 And then sometimes I may even, when that fourth hour is over, I may just do 20 minutes of calls that's not on GCN.

02:04:24.000 A lot of times when I'm doing interviews now here at the office, most of them I do at home, and people want to do it on ISDN or even phone patch, I'll just put the headphones on and you'll suddenly see an icon on the website On Prison Planet and Infowars, it says Alex will be live today on this show, and you'll see video of it.

02:04:39.000 We'll pump in the audio feed of the show, whether it's something in Salt Lake City or New York or South Africa or London.

02:04:46.000 And as you just heard last hour, we're going to do that too for you.

02:04:49.000 And we're also going to take these 4th hour shows, or sometimes when they're 5th hour, 6th hour shows.

02:04:56.000 Might be an hour, might be 3 hours long.

02:04:58.000 Hell, I might do 5 hours today.

02:05:00.000 And we're going to take them and we're going to put them up there for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

02:05:04.000 In fact, what's our ETA when I end this in about ten minutes to having this uploaded?

02:05:09.000 And so, Watson, before he goes to sleep at about six... Okay, so, yeah, well that'll be fine then.

02:05:14.000 We'll be off here by about 4.30.

02:05:16.000 He goes to bed, quits work at about 6.30, our time central.

02:05:19.000 That's like midnight in England.

02:05:21.000 And, uh... Oh yeah, it's fun fighting the new order.

02:05:24.000 I gotta tell my employees to stop working.

02:05:26.000 They're like thoroughbred horses that'll run till their hearts burst.

02:05:30.000 We enjoy our work around here, ladies and gentlemen.

02:05:33.000 And, you know, it all rolls downhill, so look how much I work, so everybody likes to work.

02:05:37.000 But it's fun to work.

02:05:39.000 Fun to do the work of hurting the New World Order. 0.92

02:05:41.000 Okay, that's enough.

02:05:42.000 I'm babbling.

02:05:43.000 I'm babbling.

02:05:43.000 It's out of control.

02:05:45.000 You are now in the Emergency Overdrive, hour number six of the radio show.

02:05:51.000 Every weekday, 11 a.m.

02:05:52.000 until 5 p.m.

02:05:54.000 Central Standard Time.

02:05:55.000 Alright, let's go ahead and take a call from John in Austin, Tejas.

02:06:00.000 You are on the air.

02:06:04.000 Just two quick things.

02:06:06.000 I wanted to talk to you about the religious thing.

02:06:10.000 I'm a Christian myself and I attend Shoreline Christian Center.

02:06:15.000 I'm really looking for current events to be talked about.

02:06:20.000 I go in there and it's real Jesus focused everything about the focus on Jesus, and that's great and awesome.

02:06:26.000 But Jesus was always focused on fighting and exposing the corrupt government, but they tell you, no, it's all about how to be happy and how to make money and how to feel good and go out to eat after the church service.

02:06:37.000 Right.

02:06:39.000 So I just, yeah, you know, I really would like to attend a church that would actually talk about current events and how that ties into the religious factor and just, you know, what's going on in the world today, and I just don't hear any of that, and it's kind of Kind of frustrating at the same time, you know, I'd like to go and learn because I'm a new Christian.

02:06:59.000 really confusing for me.

02:07:01.000 Well, I mean, look, 23,000, wait, wait, wait, what's two times?

02:07:05.000 No, 26,000.

02:07:06.000 26,000 preachers have been recruited the last two years, and it's every major megachurch that we've looked into is in it.

02:07:13.000 And, I mean, if you go there for a year, you will probably hear about, when an emergency comes, do as the government says, Romans 13, you know, we must serve.

02:07:22.000 And then if a disaster happens, you go to church, he's going to be there going, taketh the chippeth of the Lord, submit unto the government.

02:07:31.000 And, you know, take it.

02:07:33.000 Take the inoculations, go to the centers, hand in the devil guns. 1.00

02:07:38.000 And that's because most of them are on the payroll of the government.

02:07:40.000 And they've been told, you do this, and you'll keep your 501c3.

02:07:43.000 Well, I thought Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

02:07:49.000 But 50 years ago, they said, oh, you've got tax exemption under the First Amendment.

02:07:52.000 Just fill out this form.

02:07:54.000 And then they roped you into turning a right into a privilege, just like concealed carries do.

02:08:00.000 Turns a right into a privilege.

02:08:01.000 Wow.

02:08:02.000 Another thing I wanted to Ask you about it.

02:08:05.000 I hope I don't... I hope that you don't get upset.

02:08:07.000 No, it's fine.

02:08:08.000 Do it fast, though, because whoever it is in the background is going really loud.

02:08:10.000 I saw a video that was just recently added on YouTube about... You were talking... A guy was asking you a question from... Was it Project Think or something like that?

02:08:21.000 Or Progressive Think?

02:08:22.000 Do you know what I'm talking about?

02:08:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:08:24.000 I'll plug it after you're gone, and then I'll cut to him.

02:08:26.000 Hey, listen, I appreciate your call, my friend.

02:08:30.000 This show is not about Alex Jones and what Alex Jones does.

02:08:35.000 And I think in many years on the radio, I've never cussed at somebody.

02:08:39.000 But I thought, there have been discussions about it.

02:08:41.000 Hey, when you do this, you can cuss if you want. 1.00

02:08:43.000 And I thought, well, I don't cuss a lot in person, so why should I?

02:08:46.000 And then that individual is kind of a follower of some other individuals who've really said lying, bad things about me and my family.

02:08:53.000 I mean, the worst stuff you can say.

02:08:54.000 I mean, unbelievable lies.

02:08:56.000 And so I just thought I'd say F you a couple times, and then right after I said that, I said, look, I'm sorry I said that. 1.00

02:09:03.000 So I sound like an idiot. 1.00

02:09:03.000 I sound like an idiot. 1.00

02:09:04.000 So what? 1.00

02:09:05.000 I'm real, man.

02:09:06.000 This isn't a joke or an act or anything else.

02:09:14.000 I just don't burn with hatred of Israel.

02:09:17.000 But I've also taken a lot of hits for criticizing Israel.

02:09:20.000 I mean, I've lost radio stations.

02:09:20.000 I've paid.

02:09:21.000 I've gone through a lot.

02:09:22.000 And it makes me mad that a bunch of people who are playing the little leagues, who I wish would play in the bigger leagues, you know, just have this... But I think that person means... Well, I really thought about it afterwards.

02:09:33.000 That person hasn't said that much.

02:09:34.000 ProThink.org, I think.

02:09:36.000 They haven't said much, really, except a few bad things about me that weren't true.

02:09:40.000 But overall, it's more of followers of people that One of them is completely out of their minds, and the other, I'm not sure what is, but, you know, if I wanted to waste time, there's no doubt I'd get judgments against them.

02:09:51.000 But enforcing the judgments is harder.

02:09:53.000 People better watch out, though.

02:09:54.000 My wife lived in France a long time and speaks fluent French.

02:09:56.000 It's a lot easier to get stuff done.

02:09:57.000 And we have family over there, and I know how to get people internationally, you know, in court and get judgments against them.

02:10:03.000 But it's hard to squeeze blood out of a turnip.

02:10:05.000 And I just don't like people talking about my family and lying about them.

02:10:09.000 You know, saying things that aren't true, and I blew up about it. 1.00

02:10:12.000 Because, I mean, I'm a mean son of a bitch. 0.99

02:10:14.000 I mean, and by the way, I'm on some totem pole here about, oh, I'm Christian, so I'm all, you know, tiptoeing around, and I'm telling you how to live, so, ooh, there's a video of Alex drinking a beer on the internet. 0.99

02:10:26.000 I don't, yeah, when I go through cycles in my life and I'm drinking beer, I don't hide it when there's a video camera.

02:10:32.000 I talk about how I drink sometimes, or how I have problems with cigarettes.

02:10:36.000 None of that matters compared to him putting sodium fluoride in the water. 0.97

02:10:40.000 I mean, you know, don't let your 18-year-old drink, it's of the devils, you'll go to hell. 0.98

02:10:44.000 But let's, you know, let them drink sodium fluoride that eats holes in their brains. 0.98

02:10:50.000 See, it doesn't matter to me.

02:10:51.000 Let's get into real issues here, ladies and gentlemen.

02:10:56.000 Real issues.

02:10:58.000 It's just amazing.

02:11:04.000 Thank you for taking my call, sir.

02:11:15.000 I just wanted to laugh with you in your interview with that gentleman from England.

02:11:24.000 And also, I wanted to get your view on, I believe his name is William Cooper?

02:11:30.000 Uh-huh.

02:11:33.000 He said that the guy who killed JFK was the driver?

02:11:38.000 Yeah, that's not true.

02:11:40.000 He also said there's flying UFO submarines our government has, and there's aliens controlling everything with big eyeballs and giant heads, and I don't want to talk bad about William Cooper, and here's the problem.

02:11:52.000 You see how call after call is about This soap opera of who likes what group and who's behind what group and my show has never really been about that.

02:12:04.000 And William Cooper got really jealous of me and viciously attacked me and said lies about me.

02:12:08.000 It would take nine hours.

02:12:10.000 I did nine hours of radio one day and he took it and all edited it together to make it sound crazy.

02:12:15.000 There's lots of those things on the web now.

02:12:17.000 Other people are doing it.

02:12:18.000 And just people with brains see through.

02:12:20.000 And I was really sad when Bill got killed.

02:12:22.000 I mean, I talked to folks that knew him.

02:12:23.000 He'd run around waving guns in town, screaming, flipping out.

02:12:27.000 He put out a call on his website, help me, the IRS is coming after me.

02:12:30.000 I called him, you know, in like 98 and said, come on, sir, I'll raise some money for you. 1.00

02:12:34.000 And he started cussing at me on the phone, you stupid little bastard, you don't know anything. 1.00

02:12:38.000 I know everything. 1.00

02:12:39.000 And I said, well, I still want to have you on, try to help you.

02:12:41.000 He started cussing on the show.

02:12:42.000 So I would delay him out, KJFK had a delay.

02:12:45.000 And then I said, I had to let Bill Cooper go.

02:12:47.000 He was cussing. 0.82

02:12:48.000 And then there was a big controversy that I was a liar.

02:12:50.000 No one heard the cussing. 1.00

02:12:51.000 Well, you idiots, there's a delay. 1.00

02:12:53.000 And then now here we are talking about Bill Cooper. 1.00

02:12:56.000 And this is not what this show is about.

02:12:58.000 I appreciate your calling.

02:12:58.000 I'm not mad at you.

02:13:01.000 It's just, you know, I mean, Bill Cooper talked about everything he talked about was documented.

02:13:06.000 And I've seen two-hour presentations he'd do about UFOs.

02:13:09.000 See, I was never into UFOs.

02:13:12.000 And then I had people mail me Behold a Pale Horse after I'd been on air a few years, and I thought, man, this is really kooky and weird.

02:13:19.000 It's got a cool name, though, and then I'd maybe heard him five times.

02:13:23.000 And then people accused me of, he just copies what Bill Cooper says.

02:13:26.000 I hope everybody copies what I'm saying.

02:13:28.000 I'm not copying what he said, but, you know, it's not, well, he predicted 9-11 before you did.

02:13:34.000 Well, I have to say that he kind of did.

02:13:39.000 Who cares?

02:13:39.000 That's good!

02:13:41.000 I mean, nobody said he didn't have a great radio personality and talk about a lot of real stuff.

02:13:45.000 I didn't know that.

02:13:48.000 You know, I did a two-hour show and said the government will probably attack the World Trade Center and blame it on Bin Laden.

02:13:52.000 You know, they're going to stage terror attacks, call the White House, tell them, don't do it.

02:13:57.000 He did a vague show about, you know, they say Bin Laden's about to get us.

02:14:01.000 Well, the CIA, here's a BBC article or whatever, where the CIA met with him and is managing him.

02:14:08.000 So, boy, isn't that suspicious.

02:14:10.000 They might stage something.

02:14:12.000 I think mine was more clear, but who cares?

02:14:14.000 Good!

02:14:14.000 I was on air saying, in July, I think he, like a month before, was on air, not saying call the White House, but saying something's up, because man, how could you not?

02:14:23.000 They were on air prepping everyone for the attack, going, there's going to be an attack, give all your rights up when it happens.

02:14:30.000 It isn't about who predicts something.

02:14:35.000 It's about You know, it's like ten guys invented radio the same month.

02:14:42.000 You know, the technology gets to a certain level and then it gets invented.

02:14:45.000 The point is, now we've got radio.

02:14:48.000 I mean, I go to bed every night thinking about, are they going to kill me?

02:14:50.000 Are they going to set me up?

02:14:51.000 You know, I've been attacked before everything else, and I'm just trying to live.

02:14:58.000 I'm just trying to be a good person.

02:15:00.000 I'm just trying to warn people and really find out the truth.

02:15:07.000 You know, again, there's this balkanization that happens naturally.

02:15:10.000 It's like religious groups splinter into thousands of different sex organizations.

02:15:16.000 And the same thing in the patriot movement.

02:15:17.000 You know, I'm the church of the conspiracy theory, I guess, but I'm not really.

02:15:21.000 I cover real information.

02:15:22.000 And then you've got all these wild other little denominations that are just, like, hating my guts. 1.00

02:15:29.000 And I wish that they could end up meeting movie stars or end up meeting bankers or end up meeting people because then you find out it's boring and it really doesn't do anything.

02:15:37.000 Unless they're really cool people like Willie Nelson or Charlie Sheen or some of the other folks I know because it's cool because they're neat people. 0.99

02:15:43.000 But not cool because people know who you are or you get the best table at the restaurant and turn into a fat ass. 0.88

02:15:50.000 You know, I wish they could experience it and find out that just because every time I get another big star on or break some other big news story, because I've got the name out there and people feel comfortable coming here and doing it, it makes my brethren hate me even more like it's about me! 0.98

02:16:04.000 It's not! 0.92

02:16:04.000 I'm trying to kick the New World Order's butt here! 0.92

02:16:08.000 Not, uh... I mean, everybody who knew Bill Cooper knew that. 0.99

02:16:14.000 I mean, in the last year He would just go crazy and start screaming and yelling and cussing.

02:16:21.000 And then about a couple years ago, one of his people that worked with him was putting out a book or a video or something about him.

02:16:27.000 And I thought, you know, I'll bury the hatchet.

02:16:28.000 I'll call up.

02:16:30.000 I'll be real nice and invite the guy on the show and have him on and plug Bill's work.

02:16:33.000 I said, I don't totally agree with all of it, but I'll just be nice.

02:16:36.000 I used to be like this.

02:16:38.000 I still try it sometimes.

02:16:39.000 I tried it last night.

02:16:40.000 We'll see what happens.

02:16:41.000 And then I call up and the guy goes, what the hell do you want?

02:16:45.000 And I was like, well, I know there was some, you know, problems and things, but I do want to come on and talk about the positive things.

02:16:51.000 Ha ha, he was just being real rude, saying stuff to me, and about, this is the way it is, about, come on.

02:16:55.000 I said, look, that's okay, just forget it, and I hung up.

02:16:58.000 Almost like it was a stick or an act or something. 0.99

02:17:01.000 I'M THE CAPTAIN OF THIS THING, FOOL! 1.00

02:17:05.000 SCUM! 0.99

02:17:07.000 There's a lot of people who get into this because they want to be egomaniacs. 0.99

02:17:10.000 They want to be stars.

02:17:11.000 They want to make money.

02:17:13.000 And I'm not saying people liking you and thinking you're cool isn't fun.

02:17:16.000 It wears off.

02:17:17.000 And I'm not saying having a little extra money isn't cool.

02:17:19.000 But with me, I can't even enjoy the little bit of money I've got.

02:17:22.000 I'm too busy fighting the New World Order all the time.

02:17:23.000 I mean, I got into this because they were coming after my guns in 1995.

02:17:27.000 They were burning down churches.

02:17:29.000 They had blown up a building.

02:17:31.000 And I knew it was the government because I was aware of false flag terror, and I saw... What was his name?

02:17:38.000 It wasn't Jeff Davis.

02:17:38.000 It was a guy before him.

02:17:39.000 Jeff was kind of goofy, but I was friends with him locally on AXS.

02:17:43.000 I'd watch him in 93, 94, 95.

02:17:43.000 I want to say Kelly...

02:17:47.000 Something.

02:17:48.000 He moved to Idaho.

02:17:51.000 God, he was a character.

02:17:53.000 And he, at first, was all into the Zionist running and all. 0.63

02:17:56.000 When I saw him, like, in 92, 93, and then he found out there was groups above that.

02:17:59.000 I mean, he was all about the documents.

02:18:02.000 He was at libraries all the time, and Kelly... Man, I gotta get him on.

02:18:07.000 But I've tried to before, he just never kind of goes, no, you can't say it, it's all over.

02:18:12.000 That guy was kind of, because I already knew about a lot, I'd read a lot of history books and things, so watching him, I just knew.

02:18:19.000 And then he didn't want to go on air because he wanted to be private, so he kind of used Jeff Davis as his front.

02:18:29.000 Uh, what was his name?

02:18:30.000 I call him Mike Hanson.

02:18:31.000 Mike Hanson worked with him too.

02:18:35.000 He was a character.

02:18:36.000 But that guy was for real.

02:18:37.000 That guy really knew his stuff.

02:18:40.000 And he came to this conclusion that it was a British oligarchy merged with the Rothschilds, and that they really are a cultist, and he got a lot of their documents and things.

02:18:51.000 But, uh... I'd already read about Khazarians and all that, but he showed me books, and I read books he had.

02:18:57.000 What is his name?

02:18:58.000 I can't even remember people's names now!

02:19:04.000 I don't want to say the... I've got to mix up with somebody else's name, because I know the last name, but it's a wrong last name.

02:19:09.000 As soon as I'm off air today, I'll remember his name.

02:19:12.000 You know what?

02:19:13.000 I'm going to call Mike Hanson right now.

02:19:16.000 Oh, that's the line with the callers on it.

02:19:18.000 I don't have a phone.

02:19:19.000 I'm going to call him over here, because... I'm going to call Mike and see if he remembers Kelly's name.

02:19:28.000 Mike Hanson.

02:19:31.000 This is real radio, folks.

02:19:33.000 I mean, this is my daily life here, so... We'll just start.

02:19:36.000 We are strongly considering having a wireless cam and just doing, like, once a week, maybe 24 hours a day.

02:19:41.000 Even while I'm snoring, we'll have the camera on.

02:19:44.000 You'll even get to hear late-night flatulence.

02:19:47.000 Okay.

02:19:47.000 A little attempted humor.

02:19:50.000 It's not gonna answer.

02:19:52.000 Hey, Mike!

02:19:53.000 It's Alex.

02:19:53.000 How you doing, bro?

02:19:56.000 Good.

02:19:56.000 Have we got a... Are you gonna be coming into town any time from Gonzales?

02:20:03.000 Nothing, I just, thanks for the nice card with the new baby that came in.

02:20:06.000 I'll just say hi to your wife. 1.00

02:20:09.000 But listen, I'm on the radio and I can't remember the name.

02:20:11.000 Who was the guy that started Jeff Davis and everybody off?

02:20:13.000 Kelly something?

02:20:17.000 You can't remember it either?

02:20:18.000 Huh?

02:20:20.000 Remember he drove around like in super cool army jeeps and stuff?

02:20:28.000 What was his name?

02:20:33.000 It's driving me crazy.

02:20:34.000 It's driving me crazy.

02:20:40.000 Okay.

02:20:42.000 You can see me out of the cowboy hat and everything.

02:20:46.000 Idaho.

02:20:47.000 Idaho, yeah.

02:20:47.000 I can find out if you can call me back.

02:20:56.000 Okay.

02:20:58.000 Okay, I'll call you back in five minutes.

02:21:02.000 Hey, how you doing, buddy?

02:21:06.000 Well, we've lost touch.

02:21:07.000 I sure miss you.

02:21:08.000 Well, come into town with a wife and kids.

02:21:11.000 Man, the kids are grown up, aren't they?

02:21:13.000 Doesn't one of yours have already two kids or something?

02:21:22.000 That's amazing.

02:21:23.000 Yeah, I haven't talked to you in about six months.

02:21:25.000 Okay, Mike, I'm going to call you back.

02:21:27.000 See you, bye.

02:21:31.000 Alright ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to take seven more calls and we're done.

02:21:34.000 Who's up next?

02:21:35.000 Nick in Colorado.

02:21:37.000 Hey Nick, how's it going?

02:21:39.000 Hey man, how you doing?

02:21:40.000 Pretty good.

02:21:41.000 Hey, I love your new show, but I've got to say it makes it kind of hard to concentrate during work.

02:21:46.000 Well, that's kind of written and produced anyway, so just enjoy yourself.

02:21:49.000 Hey, somebody called in about Aaron Russo's film earlier, and I was hoping they would ask, but they didn't.

02:21:54.000 Obviously, Texas season's coming up really quick, and I was just wondering what your Take on that is.

02:22:00.000 I mean, I have a lot of taxes I gotta pay and I don't really want to, but I also don't want to go to jail.

02:22:05.000 Well, it's force du jour, or, you know, just the unstoppable force.

02:22:09.000 And it's piracy.

02:22:10.000 It's letter of mark.

02:22:11.000 It's that they've got the big guns, they can do it.

02:22:13.000 It is private, it is a fraud, it is offshore, it is a scam.

02:22:17.000 It is properly incorporated.

02:22:19.000 The states didn't ratify it.

02:22:20.000 That's admitted.

02:22:21.000 It is a scam.

02:22:23.000 It is to control you.

02:22:24.000 It is a plank in the Communist Manifesto.

02:22:26.000 It does go to private banks.

02:22:28.000 Not one cent of it goes to pay off, or buy anything in the government, or pay for anything.

02:22:32.000 It all goes to debt.

02:22:34.000 But, the IRS will wait 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 years, and if you ever want to own anything or be in the system, they will end up coming after you. 0.98

02:22:45.000 But even if you pay them grovel, hire CPAs, lick their boots, kiss their butts, they will still probably steal what you've got. 0.98

02:22:52.000 The difference is they'll just steal a bunch of your money instead of throwing you in prison, where big jail guards rape you. 0.99

02:22:59.000 So people say, well you say the IRS is a fraud, but then you say, go ahead and pay them.

02:23:04.000 I'm not saying don't pay them.

02:23:05.000 It's like Aaron Russo said, it's the mafia.

02:23:08.000 He made the decision to not pay them, but he said, look, he's willing to put up with them coming and trying to break his legs.

02:23:12.000 And now it turns out he did have hits out on him.

02:23:14.000 That's in the New York Times.

02:23:17.000 But have you heard about that with Pelicano and all that?

02:23:20.000 No.

02:23:21.000 Yeah, just Google Aaron Russo.

02:23:23.000 It was in the New York Times like two weeks ago.

02:23:25.000 The Pelicano trial came out.

02:23:27.000 It was a trial of this billionaire hedge fund guy, but it came out that Pelicano, and Pelicano admitted that, yeah, he talked about having Aaron Russo killed for this movie producer, saying Aaron had ripped him off a million and a half bucks or something.

02:23:39.000 But that's a side issue.

02:23:40.000 Truth is stranger than fiction.

02:23:42.000 But Aaron, Aaron had the analogy of the mafia breaking your legs.

02:23:45.000 Yeah.

02:23:47.000 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the conclusion I came to.

02:23:49.000 I just don't like it very much, obviously.

02:23:52.000 I hear you.

02:23:53.000 Well, look, look, look, look.

02:23:54.000 It's designed so people with accountants can get out of a lot of the taxes.

02:23:58.000 Right.

02:23:59.000 I appreciate your call.

02:24:00.000 That's about it.

02:24:01.000 Thank you.

02:24:01.000 I mean, here's the deal.

02:24:02.000 I don't buy that much stuff other than take friends out to dinner and go on a vacation maybe once a year.

02:24:09.000 And most of my money is in my business, so I don't end up paying that much taxes. 0.94

02:24:13.000 I do spend a bunch of money with accountants double-checking stuff so those bastards can't, because I know I'm a target. 0.66

02:24:19.000 And they've tried stuff, they've done spot audits and stuff, and we just send it to them. 0.94

02:24:23.000 And I know it violates my Fifth Amendment.

02:24:25.000 You know, I have a right to remain silent. 0.94

02:24:26.000 I haven't been arrested, indicted, nothing, and they're demanding all this crap from me. 0.83

02:24:32.000 Oh, the cleaning crew's here, they come once a week. 0.89

02:24:35.000 What am I going to do?

02:24:36.000 Let's take another call.

02:24:37.000 Let's talk to Zach in Indiana.

02:24:41.000 Hello, Alex Jones, how are you doing?

02:24:42.000 Good!

02:24:42.000 It's a never-ending radio show.

02:24:45.000 It's a great idea, I think, to be completely honest with you, but you need sleep and whatnot.

02:24:52.000 My question is that I understand that starting the whole revolution from our home of the USA is a very, you know, the first place to start, obviously.

02:25:00.000 But I was more interested in wondering around what's going on in say, like, Africa and Asia and places that we don't get as much information as we could.

02:25:10.000 Like, how would one go about obtaining more of that?

02:25:13.000 You mean you want to know information about what's happening in African places, or you want to know how to reach to them and warn them?

02:25:22.000 Well, I guess the first idea would be to see exactly what's going on there.

02:25:25.000 From my understanding, a lot of political borders and things along those lines are getting moved around more than what we think, or what I think.

02:25:33.000 Well, mainstream news doesn't really tell us what's going on in the world.

02:25:38.000 Um, so the general thought is that you would have to come to GCN or someone like you to get that kind of information.

02:25:44.000 Um, and your main focus is on the U.S.

02:25:49.000 Yeah, but this is kind of the main engine of the New World Order right now, run out of Europe and England and Israel and a few other places. 0.94

02:25:58.000 But this is the main engine.

02:26:00.000 The main engine is shifting more towards Europe, more towards Asia now, by design.

02:26:06.000 And I appreciate your call.

02:26:06.000 Let me just briefly say, That if you want to know what's happening in Africa, I go to UN websites, because they admit it, but always put a good spin on it.

02:26:13.000 If you want to read, you can read all the African newspapers, you can get it from different sides, have experts on about it, keep track of what's happening in Asia.

02:26:21.000 It's addicting!

02:26:22.000 You always want to know what's happening, what's going on.

02:26:24.000 I feed all that data and knowledge into my basic info, but I'm only a limited person, you know, with a limited perspective of what's going on in the world.

02:26:34.000 And I understand, kind of organically, what the larger computers do with algorithms to see trends.

02:26:39.000 Well, that's the art form of the human mind.

02:26:41.000 I can see trends just by, in kind of gestalts, in larger pictures by studying it.

02:26:45.000 Over time, more and more integrates, and the picture gets clearer and clearer.

02:26:49.000 And then also you begin to understand human activities, human interactions throughout history that tend to be the same.

02:26:55.000 Then you can put a high-tech overlay on it and kind of see the architecture, where it's growing, what it's doing, trending out.

02:27:02.000 And then even foreseeing problems the New World Order will have or unforeseen things that might help them.

02:27:09.000 It basically gets into chaos theory and then information warfare integration into the public, just getting outside the set paradigms of the mapmakers of the mind, making their own maps and going without that and becoming bold, not watching as much television, integrating with their friends making their own maps and going without that and becoming bold, not watching as much television, But...

02:27:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Clay in Texas.

02:27:32.000 based but on a populist view of the population against the elite but not believing through the false paradigm the elite gave us that populism means communism to take the rich's money because the rich actually created it to take the middle class's money which the poor think are the elite to then transfer it to the elite let's go ahead and talk to clay in texas clay you're on the air yes hey i want to say uh you know one of my favorite things about you is uh you treat all your callers with respect i think you're going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit I think that's admirable.

02:28:02.000 Unless I'm cussing at them.

02:28:03.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:28:06.000 I was going to call in actually about when you were talking about Christianity earlier.

02:28:09.000 I've had that argument, that same argument with a lot of English people and Canadians too.

02:28:14.000 Well yeah, they think it's real trendy to not believe in anything and not think there's anything going on that we don't know about.

02:28:23.000 Yeah.

02:28:25.000 He was trying to call you out on some pretty kooky conspiracy theories.

02:28:29.000 You know, you could have fired back at him if he believed in the conspiracy theories.

02:28:32.000 Well, I mean, I think the guy overall was trying to be nice, but he wants to play both sides.

02:28:36.000 Like you said, I was on live with him a while back ago.

02:28:39.000 I vaguely remember it.

02:28:39.000 I hammered the hell out of him.

02:28:41.000 You heard him say that.

02:28:41.000 Yeah.

02:28:42.000 And so he was kind of, you know, you know, controlling it by he had a live, you know, I mean, he had a tape show and he was letting me know that even, they even joked around with, we're going to get you now.

02:28:54.000 But it doesn't matter, the transmission was already sent out in full.

02:28:58.000 Have you heard the conspiracy theory where they say that there wasn't even a Jesus at all?

02:29:03.000 Yeah, look, Zeitgeist is, the second and third part is excellent, spot-on info. 0.94

02:29:09.000 And I appreciate your call, but the first third of it, and I haven't seen the latest version, is just absolute crap.

02:29:14.000 And it's just made-up, shoddy disinfo, and uh... 0.83

02:29:20.000 So, what do you say to that?

02:29:22.000 Okay, let's go ahead and talk to Casey in Oklahoma.

02:29:27.000 Go ahead.

02:29:28.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

02:29:29.000 How are you doing?

02:29:29.000 I really enjoy the new extended hours radio format you got going.

02:29:36.000 Thanks for doing that.

02:29:39.000 Actually, I sent this to Trey and Aaron over the weekend because I was on hold on your Sunday show and didn't quite get through because the end of the show came.

02:29:47.000 But I work in the government.

02:29:49.000 We got an email a little while back, a week ago, about the compact fluorescent light bulbs.

02:29:55.000 What, admitting they have masses of mercurium in their deadly poison?

02:29:58.000 Well, yeah, I mean, we all know that's the case, but the way the email was phrased was like, well, in fact the subject was, are compact fluorescent lamps harmful in your family?

02:30:07.000 And it acted like, you know, oh, take care and do this, and open up all your windows and everything will be just fine.

02:30:14.000 It's just, and it actually, you know, it says you're being encouraged and it didn't say anything about the new law that Congress passed at the end of last year or anything like that.

02:30:22.000 So I just thought it was pretty, you know, here's another example of the spin trying to go out from the government to its employees about how, you know, this is what you need to do and downplaying all the risks, especially with the mercury.

02:30:37.000 No, I hear you.

02:30:37.000 That's what they do.

02:30:39.000 Highly toxic lights.

02:30:40.000 They actually know how to make a phosphorescent bulb that gives you the nice yellow light that the human brain and the optic nerves like.

02:30:49.000 Your eyes are just brain stalks that grow out during fetal development, during embryonic development.

02:30:55.000 They are eyes into the soul, literally.

02:30:57.000 Beautiful little brain stalks. 1.00

02:30:58.000 Blue, green, brown, black.

02:31:01.000 And looking into someone's mind, And they, how did I get off into eyes?

02:31:08.000 Oh yeah, phosphorescent, I'm pretty tired now, with no break.

02:31:12.000 Phosphorescent, they have those that last eight years.

02:31:17.000 But they've just decided it's going to be fluorescent, which are associated with seizures, depression, everything else, because they quote, use less power, so that's also better for the earth.

02:31:26.000 And so now it's the law in a few years, you won't be able to get the wondrous phosphorescent, you'll never see that pretty yellow light again, it'll all be green nightmare light.

02:31:33.000 And then they're filled with lead and mercury, and that's totally toxic.

02:31:36.000 If one breaks in your house, you're supposed to call a hazmat team.

02:31:40.000 Just like they said, put MBTE in all the water supplies, in all the gas, and now it's in 49 states and causing massive birth defects and totally toxic and just so happens to sterilize people.

02:31:50.000 Oh, accidentally in the water!

02:31:51.000 I appreciate your call, sir.

02:31:53.000 Great points, good to hear from you.

02:31:56.000 Okay, I'm giving each person 30 seconds.

02:31:57.000 I am getting tired and I want to air this Japanese TV interview and then we'll go back into regular retransmission until I'm live tomorrow.

02:32:04.000 Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, that you can hear this for free on the audio streams at InfoWars.com, but please help us spread the word.

02:32:12.000 By the way, we put a mass email out today on the email list.

02:32:15.000 I asked Paul to get me this morning to do that.

02:32:17.000 I forgot.

02:32:17.000 We need to do that by tomorrow.

02:32:19.000 This is all the folks don't know we have.

02:32:20.000 We're doing this now.

02:32:21.000 I want to ask the listeners to tell folks about it on the message boards and help us, because I'm committing to do this and kind of inaugurating it with these first few shows going overboard.

02:32:31.000 It's going to keep it down to one hour in the future here, except it is kind of fun.

02:32:35.000 I'm tired, though.

02:32:38.000 I want to go jog right now, and it's getting a little late.

02:32:40.000 I'm going to have to hit traffic now getting home.

02:32:42.000 But when you get a prisonplanet.tv membership, I just realized I've done almost five and a half hours.

02:32:51.000 No, I have done five and a half hours.

02:32:52.000 I never plug my videos today.

02:32:54.000 That's how you support us in the IT and all the stuff we're doing is getting a presentplanet.tv membership.

02:32:58.000 Then you get the document cam, and you get the two cams that are on me.

02:33:05.000 And we're going to have a guest cam that's already set up in here.

02:33:09.000 And we've got DVD where we can play videos.

02:33:11.000 And we can also show you the web.

02:33:16.000 We're going to be playing videos off that.

02:33:17.000 So instead of me just talking about a YouTuber playing the audio, we can show you what's happening on the web.

02:33:23.000 So there is a lot going on at prisonplanet.tv, not just my weekly report or all the videos that are there, all my films in super high quality and the CDN servers we've got sitting out to you super fast, a lot better than it used to be.

02:33:36.000 I mean, it's getting better and better, and then you get the fourth hour live with the video at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:33:41.000 Okay, let's go to Kevin in Virginia.

02:33:43.000 You're on the air, Kevin.

02:33:45.000 Hey, Alex.

02:33:46.000 Yes, sir.

02:33:46.000 Listen, man.

02:33:47.000 I know you gotta go.

02:33:48.000 I know you're tired, but listen.

02:33:49.000 Besides my mother and father, you're another one of my heroes, man.

02:33:52.000 I appreciate you.

02:33:53.000 Well, I love you, too, Kevin.

02:33:54.000 Thank you, man.

02:33:55.000 I want you to know that I love when you digress, too, because that opens up a whole wealth of knowledge and information that, you know, we need.

02:34:02.000 I wanted to talk to you yesterday when you had Alan White on, and, you know, he made a point that all of these things that are happening with the new order, they're passed on from generation to generation.

02:34:14.000 And I wanted to ask you, you know, I want to ask you two things, but the first thing is, is the grand architect, the author of all of these things, is it the devil?

02:34:21.000 It has to be!

02:34:21.000 That's who they believe!

02:34:23.000 No, at the top, at the white brotherhood, at the very top, and the red brotherhood, and the black brotherhood beneath that, and that's all admitted, and I've been to one of their ceremonies and seen it, just like I was always told, you know, black, red, and then white in the middle, that they really believe Lucifer is God, and they believe Jesus is the bad guy. 0.72

02:34:44.000 Right.

02:34:45.000 And you know, it just amazes me how much New World Order hates us and we've done nothing to them.

02:34:50.000 But, you know, we keep pushing.

02:34:51.000 Oh yeah, you enjoy your food, you enjoy your wife or girlfriend, you enjoy blue skies and green trees, and you like helping old ladies. 0.66

02:34:58.000 Man, they don't like that.

02:35:00.000 Exactly.

02:35:01.000 I appreciate life.

02:35:02.000 You know?

02:35:03.000 That's right.

02:35:03.000 They love chaining people down, innocent people.

02:35:06.000 They love killing babies. 1.00

02:35:07.000 They love raping women, ripping their teeth out with pliers and burning them with acetylene torches. 1.00

02:35:12.000 A lot of psychopaths do what they do. 1.00

02:35:13.000 They like it.

02:35:14.000 They're boss, man.

02:35:15.000 They're the winners.

02:35:16.000 Right.

02:35:17.000 Listen, a couple more things and I'm going to let you go.

02:35:19.000 I'm from New York.

02:35:20.000 I'm in Virginia now.

02:35:21.000 But growing up in New York, you know, I didn't know the realization of what's going on.

02:35:26.000 But you can feel it.

02:35:26.000 You can feel the police state.

02:35:29.000 The anarchy and everything going on, and it's just terrible now.

02:35:33.000 I have a daughter there now, and I want to get her out of there. 0.99

02:35:35.000 But I know there's no escape.

02:35:36.000 Another thing I wanted to just ask you about, you know, Bob Marley is one of my heroes.

02:35:40.000 Did they do him like they did, you know, other patriots and other...

02:35:45.000 Yeah, reportedly they started.

02:35:47.000 They stuck some type of injector in his shoe that gave him a fast-acting cancer virus.

02:35:51.000 And we know that Declassified, they had him in the 50s where they give you a shot.

02:35:55.000 They need to usually get it into you.

02:35:57.000 It's hard to go through the skin.

02:35:57.000 I'm sure they have that now.

02:35:58.000 But there's like a little bitty needle in your shoe, or they bump into you and scratch you, or they put it in your food or water.

02:36:05.000 But they need to get it in the blood, usually because the stomach can block it.

02:36:07.000 And you'll be dead in a month of cancer.

02:36:09.000 Alex, thank you for letting me on your marathon show, man.

02:36:13.000 Like I said, I love you, man.

02:36:14.000 Well, we love you, too.

02:36:15.000 We love liberty and freedom and all the people that want it.

02:36:17.000 Danny in Tennessee!

02:36:18.000 And then Ron and Derek, and that's it.

02:36:19.000 Go ahead.

02:36:21.000 Alex?

02:36:22.000 Yes, Commander.

02:36:23.000 Hey, I haven't talked to you in a long time, and it's really nice to be back in the air with you.

02:36:28.000 I think the last time I called you, I told you I was thanking Christina Eversole back then when she came out.

02:36:36.000 You know, when you were in New York and everything, and we talked about vaccines.

02:36:41.000 But I want to tell you, Alex, You give me a lot of strength.

02:36:45.000 You help me out with the way you handle your business.

02:36:51.000 I'm a little down and out right now.

02:36:53.000 I just lost my little son.

02:36:56.000 You lost your son?

02:36:58.000 Yeah, he was stillborn.

02:36:59.000 It was right around when you were going to have your baby.

02:37:04.000 I was going to have one and you just had one.

02:37:09.000 But I lost him.

02:37:10.000 I wanted to fight.

02:37:13.000 and do a lot of things and maybe see if something wasn't done right.

02:37:17.000 You know, because my wife had a lot of risk signs, you know, where they were saying, you know, they were monitoring her a lot.

02:37:24.000 They gave her a lot of appointments.

02:37:25.000 She had to go all the time, and they were checking everything out.

02:37:29.000 And he was doing fine.

02:37:31.000 He was growing.

02:37:31.000 He was getting bigger and bigger.

02:37:33.000 You know, everything was fine.

02:37:34.000 And, you know, my wife's kind of petite, but she had a lot of pain in her back. 1.00

02:37:39.000 So are you a big man?

02:37:41.000 Me?

02:37:42.000 No, I think I'm probably about your size, Alex.

02:37:46.000 You know what I mean?

02:37:46.000 You mean build?

02:37:49.000 Well, you know, sometimes, yeah, in the past they told big men with little wives to tell the women to watch how much they eat.

02:37:56.000 Now they don't do that, but it actually was a good thing to do.

02:38:00.000 But I'm really sorry to hear about your son, but you know he's in heaven and, you know, just God's got his reasons and just have another one.

02:38:08.000 Yeah, that's the way I feel.

02:38:08.000 Don't give in to death, you know.

02:38:10.000 People say, the world's so bad.

02:38:11.000 People say, the world's so bad, don't have kids.

02:38:14.000 No, we've got to fight.

02:38:16.000 I mean, our ancestors came across on leaky boats having babies in the bottom of ships in huge storms with rats everywhere.

02:38:23.000 And you know, black folks came here on slave ships where half of them died.

02:38:26.000 There's always adversity and we have to struggle and continue to live and continue the life force no matter how bad it gets.

02:38:34.000 Yeah.

02:38:36.000 I guarantee you, your son had dreams, your son had experiences before he died, and there's always reasons.

02:38:45.000 You'll never know what that reason is, but who knows?

02:38:49.000 Yeah, he was stillborn.

02:38:51.000 It was a week before he was due.

02:38:54.000 Did your wife take any vaccines?

02:38:57.000 No, well that's another thing.

02:38:58.000 We weren't going to do any of that.

02:38:59.000 My wife, I talked to her about that and she knew my feelings.

02:39:03.000 I educated myself about that.

02:39:05.000 Has your wife ever taken birth control?

02:39:07.000 No.

02:39:09.000 Never?

02:39:10.000 She's never had any of the types of birth control before that?

02:39:13.000 Never.

02:39:13.000 Never done any of that.

02:39:17.000 They were saying that he may have come out with down syndrome.

02:39:19.000 They were telling her a lot of different things and scaring her.

02:39:22.000 Telling her a lot of different things.

02:39:23.000 She was worried.

02:39:24.000 How old is your wife?

02:39:26.000 My wife, she's only 32. 0.95

02:39:27.000 I'm just a little bit younger than you, I'm 33.

02:39:30.000 Well, they know instantly with the blood test if he had that, so it sounds like bull.

02:39:34.000 But they probably did that to make her feel better.

02:39:37.000 Yeah, it's possible.

02:39:38.000 You know, see here's my thing, they said it was a cord failure, you know, but see here's how they handled it.

02:39:43.000 They didn't want to, when the doctor that was my wife's actual doctor, you had to get a substitute because my wife had decreased fetal movement and she was telling me that, you know, it was one afternoon and

02:39:56.000 We started going towards, you know, calling the doctor and everything, and, uh, the substitute doctor, when everything was all said and done, when they found no feet, you know, and they were going to take him out and have a C-section, uh, she, you know, she told me that the only thing she could see wrong was that the cord was kind of bent.

02:40:15.000 Alright, and then I was thinking, well, you know, the day before this happened, before he passed like this, you know, they monitored my wife, you know, like they were always doing, and they were saying everything's fine, he's big, we'll probably take him out, Uh, you know, like later on during that week, you know, like the Friday.

02:40:30.000 Oh, they were saying they were going to do a cesarean?

02:40:32.000 Why?

02:40:33.000 Yeah, well, my first baby was a c-section also.

02:40:37.000 Oh yes, they always do that after.

02:40:38.000 Well, listen, uh, you know, childbirth's always been tough.

02:40:42.000 Coming into the world's always tough.

02:40:43.000 It probably isn't their fault.

02:40:45.000 And the cords do get wrapped around them and stuff, and that's why it's important to get those last sonograms.

02:40:49.000 Sounds like you were doing that, and it's nobody's fault.

02:40:52.000 It's just, you know, Lord giveth, Lord taketh away, and that's just the way it is, and I'm sad for you, my friend, and just have another baby, and it'll all work out in the end.

02:41:09.000 You know, my grandfather crashed an airplane right when he got in World War II and got hurt, a fighter pilot.

02:41:16.000 And so, most of the people early on in the war and his squadron died.

02:41:19.000 I wouldn't exist if he wouldn't have had equipment malfunction.

02:41:22.000 It turned out that plane had big problems.

02:41:23.000 It had been part of some corruption.

02:41:25.000 A whole bunch of them were bad in the manufacturing.

02:41:28.000 So, you know, oh, he didn't get to be the big war hero like the other grandpa on a B-17 as a gunner, but he lived.

02:41:35.000 And so, you never know how these things work, okay?

02:41:40.000 I appreciate your call, sir.

02:41:41.000 sir take care thank you thank you very painful and i'll pray for you and your wife um was that danny in tennessee i can't take any more calls on that ron and derek show's over i think we're going to end it on that that's pretty depressing uh if you want to be able to see the video and check out what we're doing i was already pretty tired and the heat's gone up they turn the ac up man i'm sweating and uh i was already tired that bums me out so i'm gonna go ahead and end the transmission on that and i will uh

02:42:10.000 Here's the Japanese TV piece, and I will see you back tomorrow live at 11am.

02:42:16.000 If you want to see the video, this audio you're hearing on the web, go to PrisonPlanet.tv membership and get all the films, the audio, everything else with it while you're at it.

02:42:23.000 Hey, let's go out with our cool bumper music though, that Starship Troopers I played ten years ago on the radio that I'd lost.

02:42:31.000 Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.

02:42:32.000 Bye-bye until next time.

02:42:34.000 All right, the show continues.

02:42:36.000 Here's an interview I did with Japanese TV about a year ago.

02:42:39.000 Stay with us.

02:42:51.000 Ah, five and a half hours.

02:42:52.000 That was enjoyable.

02:42:53.000 Ha-ha.

02:42:55.000 Well, I'd like to say it's Miller time, but it's not.

02:42:58.000 I am gonna go.

02:43:01.000 I think I'll swim for exercise right now.

02:43:03.000 Bye-bye!

02:43:03.000 What is it?

02:43:05.000 Nine?

02:43:16.000 Nine?

02:43:17.000 Nine-nine?

02:43:19.000 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, yes.

02:43:28.000 So we start with the director's request.

02:43:56.000 You adjust the tail, poke.

02:44:00.000 How long would you like me to spend on each one, sir?

02:44:06.000 Sure.

02:44:07.000 Gotcha.

02:44:08.000 How many seconds?

02:44:11.000 Really?

02:44:12.000 You mean read each one?

02:44:13.000 I mean, how long should my answer be?

02:44:16.000 No, no, no, you don't need to answer.

02:44:18.000 Answer, I'm going to ask the answer later.

02:44:22.000 But this is just, I want to use reading.

02:44:24.000 So we are, we're going to use this.

02:44:28.000 I want you to look at this.

02:44:30.000 Okay, I got you.

02:44:34.000 This is just for our purpose.

02:44:35.000 Oh, I understand.

02:44:36.000 You ready?

02:44:38.000 The collapse of the World Trade Centers.

02:44:41.000 By your own word, it's fine.

02:44:42.000 Just number one.

02:44:44.000 Well, number one, we have the bizarre collapse of Tower 1, 2, and 7.

02:44:49.000 Also, we have... Number two?

02:44:52.000 Yes.

02:44:52.000 Number two, we have the strange Can I take two versions?

02:44:56.000 One version is good, but the other version is just to read it.

02:44:59.000 Number three, we have the mystery of the Pentagon with this 16 to 18-foot hole, with this huge aircraft disappearing into it.

02:45:06.000 And then number four, we have the incredible government cover-up, the way they've been behaving for the last five years.

02:45:12.000 Can I take two versions?

02:45:13.000 That version is good, but the other version is just to read it.

02:45:17.000 Sure, sure.

02:45:20.000 That is good.

02:45:20.000 So, the first, your version.

02:45:23.000 Second, short version.

02:45:25.000 No problem.

02:45:30.000 Can you talk to me?

02:45:31.000 Sure.

02:45:33.000 The first one, practice.

02:45:34.000 Short version.

02:45:37.000 That's fine.

02:45:38.000 Read the whole thing?

02:45:39.000 There are four different questions about the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

02:45:42.000 Number one, the collapse of the World Trade Centers.

02:45:44.000 Number two, the mystery of the airplanes.

02:45:46.000 Number three, the mystery of the Pentagon.

02:45:48.000 Number four, the government cover-up.

02:45:53.000 Okay, so I'm going to ask one by one.

02:45:56.000 Sure.

02:45:57.000 So please answer me within five minutes.

02:46:00.000 No problem.

02:46:01.000 Maybe three minutes.

02:46:02.000 Yeah, gotcha.

02:46:02.000 Okay?

02:46:03.000 So, number one question.

02:46:07.000 The collapse of the World Trade Center, what would you tell about it?

02:46:11.000 What's the question?

02:46:13.000 A modern steel building has never collapsed from fire.

02:46:18.000 And we have underwriting laboratories that underwrote the buildings, and their own studies showed that the buildings should not have collapsed.

02:46:23.000 We have Tower 1 and Tower 2, both 110 stories apiece, and their architects and designers stated that they were designed to take two large jet aircraft crashing into each building.

02:46:35.000 But on 9-11, Tower 1 and 2 fell mysteriously.

02:46:39.000 But the media doesn't like to focus on 7.

02:46:42.000 A 47-story building, way down the block, that had several small fires in it that day, and then imploded with the classical signature of a controlled demolition from explosives.

02:46:54.000 We see the central column being blown out first and collapsing.

02:46:57.000 Then if you look at close-ups of the video, you see the blast points.

02:47:01.000 boom, and you see it fall into a perfect pile, not even seriously damaging buildings that were only about 25 feet away on both sides.

02:47:10.000 So we know that there were bombs in Tower 1 and 2.

02:47:14.000 We have firefighters, we have police reporting saying that it was as if there were bombs, that there were explosions going off right before they collapsed.

02:47:23.000 Tower 1 and 2 were blown up unconventionally from the top down.

02:47:27.000 But as it collapses, you can see the blast points going boom, boom, boom, boom.

02:47:32.000 They're called pop-outs or swifts.

02:47:34.000 Blasting as the building collapses.

02:47:37.000 Also, they claim that jet fuel caused this, but jet fuel only burns between 1200 and 1800 degrees.

02:47:43.000 Steel doesn't start weakening until about 2300.

02:47:45.000 It doesn't start melting until about 2800.

02:47:48.000 These are scientific Facts.

02:47:51.000 And most of the jet fuel had been expended and already burned out.

02:47:54.000 That's why people were standing in the holes in the building.

02:47:57.000 Help me, help me!

02:47:58.000 Standing in the holes right next to huge four-foot-round columns that supposedly shattered seconds later.

02:48:05.000 And this is key.

02:48:06.000 With Tower 1 and 2, we see the concrete, the steel, being pulverized, being turned into fine powder.

02:48:13.000 Huge plumes of dust.

02:48:15.000 A modern building had never fallen from fire, but even if it was, engineers and experts have said it would crinkle and bend and just fall over.

02:48:22.000 It wouldn't...

02:48:23.000 Blow with huge thousands of feet of white plumes and all this toxic dust They said all the body parts were in small pieces all the computers were blown into little bitty small pieces Everything was polarized by the explosives, but there weren't just explosive charges in tower one two and seven This is very important.

02:48:42.000 Professor Stephen Jones has gotten samples from some of the memorial parks of the steel and they took aircraft photos weeks after and found 2,500, 2,300 degree molten pools of steel that were even there months later.

02:48:58.000 Well, jet fuel doesn't burn anywhere near that hot.

02:49:00.000 These were very low burning fires, oxygen star fires.

02:49:04.000 Well, then how did you have all this molten steel down there in the basements?

02:49:10.000 He had a hypothesis that only thermite could cause that, and even before he knew that demolition experts used thermite and thermate to cut through columns, And they also used explosives on top of that.

02:49:22.000 He had the hypothesis.

02:49:24.000 They got the samples, they tested them, and it had the byproducts of thermite.

02:49:29.000 But not just thermite.

02:49:31.000 It had the byproducts of the patented thermate, with sulfur and other additives, which causes the thermite to burn even faster.

02:49:40.000 This is conclusive proof, not just of conventional explosives, but thermite, thermate, the patented system used to destroy these buildings.

02:49:49.000 Truth betrays common sense.

02:49:52.000 It should not be like this.

02:49:54.000 How did 9-11 happen?

02:49:56.000 So how about the number 2 mystery of the airframe?

02:49:59.000 What do you think about it?

02:50:03.000 People talk about the mystery of the airplanes and certainly folks have noticed pods or different attachments or claim there weren't windows.

02:50:13.000 I really don't subscribe to that theory.

02:50:16.000 We know what happened on 9-11.

02:50:19.000 The hijackers were really U.S.

02:50:20.000 government agents who had been trained at military bases and the head of the Defense Language School of Monterey, California went public saying we were forced to train these people.

02:50:29.000 They were also trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station.

02:50:32.000 They thought they were taking part in live drills to test security to see if they could get on board the aircraft.

02:50:37.000 Once they were on board the aircraft, nerve gas was released, killing everyone aboard.

02:50:42.000 Then remote control systems took control of the aircraft and flew them into the buildings.

02:50:48.000 And this is actually in Operation Northwoods, an official U.S.

02:50:51.000 government plan To carry out terror attacks to blame on enemies.

02:50:56.000 Our own government talks about how they would remote control aircraft and use them as weapons.

02:51:01.000 And the CIA that morning was running a drill with the Pentagon of flying hijacked jets into the World Trade Center, Pentagon, CIA headquarters, and many other targets.

02:51:11.000 So the rest of the government thought it was all a drill.

02:51:13.000 That's why on the tapes they say, is this real world or exercise?

02:51:16.000 Is this part of the drill?

02:51:17.000 I've never seen so much real stuff during a drill.

02:51:20.000 That confused everyone.

02:51:22.000 And whenever the New World Order crime syndicate carries out terror attacks, they always have drills at the exact same time to confuse the good part of the government.

02:51:30.000 The majority of the government's good.

02:51:31.000 It's very tiny, criminal, mafia groups within the government that are doing this, and that's exactly what happened on 9-11.

02:51:39.000 So people talk about the mysteries of the planes.

02:51:41.000 Did they land planes?

02:51:42.000 Did they have other planes take off?

02:51:45.000 I don't believe that that's what happened because I have inside Pentagon sources that two years before it broke in the news that they were running drills.

02:51:51.000 I already had the information that they were running that drill by late 2001, and it didn't come out until 2003 in the media that they were running drills.

02:52:00.000 Then people ask, well, what about the cell phone calls?

02:52:03.000 It's very easy to fake cell phone calls.

02:52:05.000 The computer programs are there.

02:52:07.000 The mothers and fathers that got these calls said, it didn't sound, it sounded like my son, but it was a one-way conversation.

02:52:14.000 They'd say, hello mother, it's me.

02:52:16.000 They'd say their name.

02:52:17.000 You believe me, don't you?

02:52:19.000 You don't call your mother and say, you believe me, it's your son.

02:52:22.000 And most of the calls were supposedly from cell phones at above 10,000 feet.

02:52:26.000 Cell phones don't work above 4,000 feet.

02:52:29.000 That's well known.

02:52:30.000 Then the few air phone calls that did come in off the air phones in the seats.

02:52:35.000 It was stewardesses saying, I can't breathe.

02:52:37.000 There's something in the... We've been hijacked.

02:52:40.000 There's something in the cockpit.

02:52:41.000 I can't breathe.

02:52:43.000 So the few real calls we've got, they're saying, I can't breathe.

02:52:47.000 You see, and that fits in with what the information I have from the Pentagon sources is that they put their own agents on board, posing as hijackers, taking part in the drills.

02:52:56.000 We know these men were trained at U.S.

02:52:57.000 military bases.

02:52:58.000 They killed everybody on board and flew the planes into the buildings.

02:53:05.000 So would you discuss the mystery of the Pentagon?

02:53:08.000 Sure.

02:53:12.000 The Pentagon controversy is one of the central things that the media has focused on in the United States.

02:53:19.000 And the reason that there is a controversy is because we have the first photos and video of the facade, the face of the Pentagon, where it was hit by that jet aircraft that pulled some impossible maneuvers.

02:53:32.000 And it's a little bitty 16 to 18 foot hole.

02:53:35.000 Now later, after fire, it collapsed into a bigger hole, but you don't have any big engines, any big parts, any seats.

02:53:43.000 They've never shown us any of the bodies.

02:53:44.000 It's just a red smoking perfectly circular hole, and then you even look at the video they've released, it's a white-hot flash, looks like an explosion, you don't see a plane anywhere there.

02:53:58.000 I don't know what really happened at the Pentagon, but I do know this, we're not being told the truth, we're being lied to.

02:54:04.000 And that's what we attempt to cover at my news website, Infowars.com.

02:54:08.000 So the last thing, the number four, the government cover-up.

02:54:14.000 Not only do we have all the evidence of government involvement, at 9-11, then we have their cover-up.

02:54:21.000 George Bush tried to appoint their family confidant, Henry Kissinger, to be the supposed independent head.

02:54:28.000 That would be like if a gangster was on trial and he appointed his brother to be the judge.

02:54:32.000 So, number one, the 9-11 Commission was not independent.

02:54:36.000 It was a fraud.

02:54:37.000 The 9-11 Commission never mentioned Building 7 collapsing.

02:54:40.000 The 9-11 Commission lied and said there were no central columns in Tower 1 or 2.

02:54:45.000 When Nomura Yamasaki overbuilt the buildings with 47 giant steel columns in each one of the center, overbuilt for strength, the Commission just claims there's no columns in the middle.

02:54:56.000 It's like saying the sun didn't come up this morning.

02:54:58.000 So, just incredible lies on that front.

02:55:02.000 Also, about half the commission is involved in business with defense contractors and defense brokers like the Carlisle Group.

02:55:09.000 Some of them are even involved with the Bin Laden family in some of their businesses.

02:55:15.000 But the really big cover-up is the fact that firefighters and emergency workers, this has been in our news, found the emergency black boxes, the data records.

02:55:25.000 They're really orange with black stripes on them.

02:55:26.000 They found them.

02:55:28.000 And in the rubble.

02:55:30.000 And the government then announced, we never found them, and they loaded them on four-wheelers and drove them out and told the emergency people, you never saw those black boxes.

02:55:40.000 They told the FAA to shred all the tapes and put them in different trash cans that day.

02:55:45.000 They told FBI agents that were following the, quote, hijackers, or really government agents, to back off.

02:55:51.000 Then when FBI agents tried to go public, like FBI agent Robert Wright, they threatened to arrest him.

02:55:58.000 The head of counter-terrorism for the FBI, FBI agent John O'Neill, tried to go public warning him of an impending attack and they told him to shut up.

02:56:06.000 So there are so many, there are so many countless examples of cover-up.

02:56:11.000 We have the government banning photography and video around the World Trade Center complex in the days after.

02:56:17.000 We have them under guard hauling the steel away to China and South Korea and having it melted down, not letting anyone test it.

02:56:25.000 Thank God we were able later to get some small samples that were shipped to some memorial parks and find the thermate in it.

02:56:30.000 So systematically, there has been a continual cover-up, and the administration has lied and lied.

02:56:36.000 First, they claimed they had never heard of a plan to fly hijacked jets into buildings.

02:56:41.000 They said no one ever heard of that.

02:56:42.000 We promised.

02:56:43.000 Came out they had an exact memo saying that.

02:56:46.000 Came out they were running drills that morning and two weeks before of the exact same targets being hit by hijacked jets.

02:56:55.000 And there are hundreds and hundreds of other lies.

02:56:57.000 From start to finish, it's all one giant 500 plus page lie in their 9-11 commission report.

02:57:04.000 I have read it.

02:57:05.000 I have written an analysis of it.

02:57:07.000 Many other scholars have written analysis of it. 0.97

02:57:09.000 They are counting on us being stupid, They're counting on us, not researching the facts, but their cover-up is imploding. 0.96

02:57:16.000 The majority of the American people now know 9-11 is an inside job, carried out as a pretext for a Pax Americana, global, tyrannical empire. 0.99

02:57:29.000 You want to ask those bottom ones about the symposium and all that?

02:57:36.000 Yes, I'm going to ask them.

02:57:38.000 Now we've done for these questions.

02:57:40.000 Good.

02:57:41.000 That do good for you?

02:57:43.000 Perfect.

02:57:44.000 Good.

02:57:45.000 Perfect.

02:57:46.000 Yeah, we just spent 10 minutes for these questions.

02:57:52.000 So they like it that you really summarized all these questions.

02:57:56.000 So I'm very happy.

02:57:58.000 Thank you.

02:58:00.000 SimpleZoom, the Los Angeles Chicago.

02:58:03.000 So while you discuss in the SimpleZoom, just summarize what the nature of the meeting.

02:58:10.000 Sure.

02:58:10.000 So beforehand, maybe you say you are the organizer and the founder of this movement.

02:58:24.000 Here it comes.

02:58:26.000 Well, I am the father of the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:58:29.000 I was aware that the attacks were coming months before and warned the people and specifically said that our own government was going to attack the World Trade Centers and then blame it on their agent, their asset, Bin Laden.

02:58:39.000 And day one, I went public on 9-11 and I helped organize a huge meeting in Dallas, Texas a giant meeting in Los Angeles and was involved in a big meeting in Chicago where we brought in experts from all over the United States and North America to expose 9-11 as an inside job and we're having a great effect.

02:58:59.000 It was also carried on national television here in the United States and millions and millions of people have woken up because of it.

02:59:06.000 Can we talk more about it?

02:59:11.000 Yeah a little bit about what's really discussed in the meeting.

02:59:15.000 Just briefly talking about main points.

02:59:20.000 At these symposiums, we discuss the fact that Bin Laden's known CIA and has been hired by our government for over 25 years.

02:59:29.000 We broke down how the towers had bombs in them.

02:59:32.000 We broke down the motives.

02:59:34.000 Why would the government stage this attack?

02:59:36.000 As a pretext to have a domestic tyranny, a police state here in the U.S.

02:59:41.000 As a pretext to grab trillions in oil in the Middle East and for hundreds of billions of dollars in no-bid contract weapons sales.

02:59:48.000 So it's really about a global empire and the American people losing their freedoms.

02:59:51.000 We exposed that.

02:59:53.000 We also got into the hundreds and hundreds of smoking guns of 9-11.

02:59:57.000 How the hijackers were really US government agents.

02:59:59.000 How they were trained.

03:00:00.000 U.S.

03:00:01.000 military bases.

03:00:02.000 We had the former director of the U.S.

03:00:03.000 Star Wars Directed Energy Weapons Program, who was also a fighter-bomber pilot from Vietnam, also an interceptor pilot, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he revealed the facts of how NORAD stood down that day, and how people say the government did nothing on 9-11.

03:00:20.000 That's not true.

03:00:21.000 The government would have done nothing and had its default position, they would have sent fighters up and shot down those aircraft.

03:00:26.000 But two months before 9-11, Dick Cheney took the authority for generals and admirals to shoot aircraft down away from them, only to himself.

03:00:35.000 And he was in control, in the bunker, that morning.

03:00:38.000 And Norm Mineta, the Transportation Secretary, was in the bunker with him.

03:00:42.000 And he saw the aide walk over to the Vice President and said, the plane's 50 miles out, it's 30 miles out, it's 20 miles out.

03:00:48.000 And you can get the video of this.

03:00:49.000 Norm Mineta gave a speech on it before the commission.

03:00:53.000 And the aide said, aren't we going to shoot it down?

03:00:55.000 We've got to do something.

03:00:56.000 And Dick Cheney said, the order still stands, and they stood down.

03:01:00.000 This is all right out in plain view, and they let that aircraft come into the Pentagon.

03:01:06.000 So that's the type of things that we discussed there.

03:01:07.000 We had Dr. Stephen Jones breaking down explosives in the buildings.

03:01:12.000 We had other experts getting into the history of government-sponsored terror.

03:01:18.000 One of the most important areas that we discussed at the conference was the history of US government-sponsored terror.

03:01:24.000 In 1953, our government admits they staged terror attacks in Iran to overthrow their elected government.

03:01:30.000 Our government admits they staged terror attacks in Europe in the 70s and 80s to blame it on the Soviets.

03:01:36.000 Our government admits they had a plan to bomb D.C., to hijack jets for remote control, and to attack our own military bases and blame it on Cuba.

03:01:44.000 And that plan, of course, got nixed by the President, then JFK.

03:01:48.000 But this goes way back.

03:01:49.000 Of course, we've also now talked about how the Gulf of Tonkin has been declassified.

03:01:54.000 1964.

03:01:55.000 We knew for decades that the Vietnamese never attacked us.

03:01:58.000 We knew that was staged as people come forward.

03:02:00.000 But the media called it a conspiracy theory.

03:02:02.000 The government did.

03:02:03.000 Now the LBJ presidential tapes have been released where he's on the phone with Defense Secretary McNamara saying, hey, we staged this attack.

03:02:11.000 We get to expand the war against Vietnam.

03:02:14.000 1964.

03:02:15.000 And now the CIA and NSA have released official history that that was staged.

03:02:20.000 So we also talked about the history of government-sponsored terror.

03:02:23.000 There's many, many other examples.

03:02:24.000 Hitler, of course, firebombed his own Reichstag, the evidence shows, for a crackdown.

03:02:30.000 Then in 1939, to attack Poland, he staged an attack on his own military base in Gleiwitz, and then said the Poles had attacked Germany, and the Germans said, well, let's get them. 0.76

03:02:38.000 So governments themselves do this over and over and over and over again.

03:02:43.000 So we also discuss the history of government-sponsored terror.

03:02:46.000 But the key is Operation Northwoods, the official U.S. government plan to stage terror attacks and kill American citizens and maim American citizens to blame it on foreign enemies as a pretext for global empire and enslavement.

03:03:01.000 First, this North, this Operation, what about it?

03:03:06.000 It's Operation Northwoods.

03:03:08.000 And if you type it into Google, just type in Operation Northwoods into Google, you can pull it up from the National Security Archive, Library of Congress, ABC News, headline, U.S. government.

03:03:19.000 Government Plan to Terrorize U.S.

03:03:21.000 Cities for Pretext for War.

03:03:23.000 Baltimore Sun reported on it.

03:03:26.000 The docket was declassified in 2000.

03:03:28.000 It is an official document.

03:03:30.000 It's 15 pages long.

03:03:32.000 And then they say we can stage the deaths, not really have deaths, or we can really kill people.

03:03:37.000 And they say we can hijack jets by remote control.

03:03:40.000 We can do all of this.

03:03:41.000 We can bomb D.C.

03:03:43.000 They say we can have snipers in D.C. 0.99

03:03:46.000 shoot citizens and then blame it on them. 0.58

03:03:49.000 They even talk about how to frame taxis. 0.89

03:03:51.000 They even talk about how to frame people in there.

03:03:55.000 So, the last question.

03:03:57.000 So, about the future.

03:03:58.000 What do you think is going to be the future of these conspiracies?

03:04:02.000 Sure.

03:04:03.000 The movement that I started Over five years ago, before 9-11, is growing and growing and growing and is unstoppable.

03:04:14.000 The majority of the American people in polls, in the Washington Post, CNN, you name it, the majority believe 9-11 is an inside job.

03:04:21.000 Not just the government failed to act or screwed up or let it happen.

03:04:24.000 No, that it is a total inside job.

03:04:27.000 So there's a collision between the terrorists, the military industrial complex that run this country, And the American people.

03:04:34.000 There is a collision.

03:04:35.000 They are rising.

03:04:36.000 We're rising.

03:04:37.000 And there's going to be a collision.

03:04:38.000 And that collision is happening right now.

03:04:40.000 They may stage more terror attacks.

03:04:42.000 They may go to total martial law in this country.

03:04:44.000 There may be a civil war in this country.

03:04:46.000 But we will bring these terrorists to justice.

03:04:48.000 They will pay for their crimes.

03:04:50.000 They're going down.

03:05:21.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

Alex Jones Show - April 08, 2008

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