Alex Jones Show - 20080429_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 I think so.

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00:00:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:12.000 G. Edward Griffin is going to be in studio with us, coming up in about five minutes.

00:00:17.000 Here's a little clip from Utterlyn Horowitz's video, In Lies We Trust.

00:00:23.000 In the last 15 minutes of the show today, I'm going to play 15 minutes or so more of this, but here's a few minutes of it right now, just a taste of what's coming up.

00:00:32.000 So, I went down to see Bill Mann at the zoo in Washington, D.C.

00:00:37.000 and I told Bill Mann, I said, look, here's a, I got a problem.

00:00:40.000 I don't know what the hell to do.

00:00:42.000 Bill Mann is a very bright guy. 0.95

00:00:45.000 I said, these lousy monkeys are picking it up while being stored in the airports in transit with these loading, offloading. 0.94

00:00:54.000 He said, it's very simple. 0.94

00:00:56.000 He said, you go ahead, get your monkeys out of West Africa and get the African green Bring them into Madrid. 1.00

00:01:04.000 Unload them there.

00:01:05.000 There are no other traffic through there for animals.

00:01:08.000 Fly them into Philadelphia.

00:01:09.000 Pick them up.

00:01:11.000 Or fly them into New York and pick them up.

00:01:14.000 Right off the airplane.

00:01:16.000 So I brought African Greens in.

00:01:17.000 I didn't know we were importing AIDS virus at the time.

00:01:19.000 And you introduced AIDS virus in the country. 0.83

00:01:44.000 And you introduced AIDS virus in Now we had those.

00:01:47.000 This was the solution.

00:01:49.000 Because those monkeys didn't have the wild viruses.

00:01:51.000 But, we had all these... Wait, why didn't the greens have the wild viruses since they came from Africa? 1.00

00:01:55.000 Because they weren't, well, they weren't being infected in these group-holding things with all the other 40 different viruses.

00:02:03.000 But they had the ones they brought from the jungle, though. 0.96

00:02:04.000 Yeah, they had those, but there were relatively few.

00:02:07.000 What you do is you have a gang housing, you're gonna have an epidemic Transmission of infection in a confined space.

00:02:14.000 Oh, is that the problem?

00:02:16.000 So, anyway, the greens came in.

00:02:19.000 Now we had these, and then we're taking our seed stocks to clean them up, and God, now I'm discovering new viruses. 0.92

00:02:29.000 So, I said, shoot us, priest.

00:02:33.000 Well, I got an invitation from the Sister Kinney Foundation, you know, which was the opposing foundation, and that was the live virus. 0.72

00:02:40.000 Oh, right.

00:02:41.000 Yeah, they had jumped on Sabin's bandwagon.

00:02:43.000 And they had asked me to come down and give a talk at the Sister Kenny Foundation meeting.

00:02:50.000 And I said, it was an international meeting.

00:02:52.000 I said, God, what am I going to talk about?

00:02:54.000 I know what I'm going to do.

00:02:56.000 I'm going to talk about the detection of non-detectable viruses as a topic.

00:03:03.000 There were those who didn't want a live virus vaccine.

00:03:07.000 They concentrated.

00:03:07.000 The National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis concentrated all its efforts on getting more and more people to use the killed virus vaccine.

00:03:18.000 While they were supporting me for research on a live virus vaccine.

00:03:23.000 So now I gotta have something, you know, that's gonna attract attention. 0.99

00:03:27.000 So I thought, gee, that damn SV-40. 0.99

00:03:29.000 I mean, that damn evacuating agent that we have. 1.00

00:03:32.000 I'm going to just pick that particular one. 0.99

00:03:35.000 That virus has got to be in vaccines.

00:03:38.000 And it's got to be in Sabin's vaccine, so I quickly tested it.

00:03:44.000 Sure enough, it was in there. 0.97

00:03:46.000 And we'll be damned. 0.80

00:03:47.000 So now, so I go ahead and So you just took stocks of Sabin's vaccine off the shelf here at Merck?

00:03:53.000 Yeah, well, it had not been made at Merck.

00:03:55.000 It was made at Merck.

00:03:56.000 You were making it for Sabin at this point?

00:03:58.000 Yeah, it was made before I came.

00:03:59.000 Yeah, but at this point Sabin is still just doing these massive field trials.

00:04:03.000 Mm-hmm.

00:04:03.000 Okay.

00:04:04.000 In Russia and so forth.

00:04:05.000 So I go down... I talked about the detection of non-technical virus.

00:04:11.000 I told Albert... But at this point Sabin is still just doing these massive field trials.

00:04:16.000 Mm-hmm.

00:04:16.000 Okay.

00:04:17.000 In Russia and so forth.

00:04:18.000 So I go down...

00:04:20.000 I talked about the detection of non-detectable viruses.

00:04:24.000 I told Albert, I said, listen Albert, I said, you know, you and I are good friends.

00:04:28.000 But I said, I'm going to go down there and you're going to get upset.

00:04:32.000 But I'm going to talk about a virus that's in your vaccine now.

00:04:36.000 You're going to get rid of the virus.

00:04:37.000 Don't worry about it.

00:04:38.000 You're going to get rid of it.

00:04:43.000 So of course, Albert was very upset with me.

00:04:46.000 And what did he say?

00:04:48.000 Well, he said basically that This is just another obfuscation that is going to upset the vaccines.

00:04:55.000 I said, well, you know, you're absolutely right.

00:04:57.000 But I said, we have a new era here.

00:04:59.000 We have a new era of detection.

00:05:01.000 And the important thing is to get rid of these viruses.

00:05:03.000 Why would he call it an obfuscation if it was a virus that was contaminating the vaccines?

00:05:07.000 Because, well, there were 40 different viruses in these vaccines anyway that we were inactivating.

00:05:15.000 But you weren't activating the... That's correct.

00:05:17.000 No, that's right.

00:05:18.000 But yellow fever vaccine had leukemia virus in it, and you know, this is in the days of very crude science.

00:05:26.000 So anyway, I went down and talked to him, and I said, well, why are you concerned about it?

00:05:31.000 I said, well, I'll tell you what.

00:05:32.000 I said, I have a feeling in my bones that this virus is different.

00:05:37.000 I don't know why to tell you this, but I've been around bones a long time.

00:05:40.000 I just think this virus may have some long-term effects.

00:05:45.000 What?

00:05:52.000 We're on the march.

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00:09:42.000 G. Edward Griffin, really a legend in the alternative media, New World Order resistance movement, one of the last living icons, the great granddaddies, in the fight.

00:09:55.000 Sharp, handsome devil for being in the fight this long.

00:09:58.000 And it's good to have him here with us.

00:10:00.000 Very long bio up on Wikipedia.

00:10:02.000 A lot of different websites, scores of films he's made.

00:10:05.000 He is, of course, the best-selling author of The Creature from Jekyll Island.

00:10:09.000 He founded in 2002 Freedom Force International.

00:10:13.000 And he is in studio with us today.

00:10:16.000 Mr. Griffin, thanks for coming in.

00:10:17.000 Well, thanks a lot, Alex.

00:10:18.000 It's really a pleasure to be here.

00:10:19.000 Well, it's a pleasure to have you with us.

00:10:20.000 You're going to be speaking tonight later in Austin at UT at 8 o'clock.

00:10:24.000 We'll talk about that later.

00:10:26.000 Right now, tell us about G. Edward Griffin.

00:10:28.000 Tell us about your life.

00:10:29.000 Tell us about the experiences you've had.

00:10:31.000 I mean, I know you don't like to talk about yourself, but I mean, the scope, how long you've been in this, the films you've made.

00:10:35.000 Spend 10 minutes on that.

00:10:37.000 Ten minutes.

00:10:38.000 Well, you're going to lose your audience on this one.

00:10:41.000 There's really not that much.

00:10:42.000 I'm basically a writer, Alex, as everybody knows.

00:10:45.000 I started into this field, this freedom field, if you want to call it that, in 1959.

00:10:52.000 By 1960, I was up to speed.

00:10:54.000 I was very alarmed at what was going on in the world.

00:10:56.000 And I quit my job, which was a comfortable job with an insurance company, and I became a crusader.

00:11:02.000 And my first issues back in those days had to do with the United Nations.

00:11:07.000 You know, I went through school.

00:11:08.000 I was taught that the UN was our last, best hope for peace.

00:11:12.000 It was a means by which all nations could join together in peace and brotherhood and all that stuff.

00:11:17.000 And I bought into it lock, stock and barrel.

00:11:19.000 Then one day I opened up a pamphlet, and the author of the pamphlet was a college professor from some Midwest university, and he was telling me that this was all a false image.

00:11:29.000 That what these guys actually had in mind had nothing to do with peace and brotherhood, but totalitarian control over the world.

00:11:35.000 Well, that upset me, and I didn't believe it, of course.

00:11:38.000 But anyway, you asked about my history.

00:11:40.000 That is the first thing that nudged me and made me start to think about the assumptions that I had.

00:11:45.000 And don't be shy because this journey, I mean you woke up back when hardly anybody was awake, this journey is important for other people out there who are having similar journeys and I think it's an example of what one person can do after they wake up and decide, I want to stand up for goodness, I want to stand up against evil, I want to fight corruption.

00:12:02.000 Well, yeah, I guess that is a parallel journey that a lot of people are taking today, and so with that in mind, thanks for encouraging me.

00:12:09.000 I guess the details are perhaps important.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, I mean, you're a trailblazer.

00:12:13.000 Tell us about that.

00:12:14.000 Well, yeah, that was back in 1960, and I started to give speeches on the United Nations, and I called it the fearful master.

00:12:23.000 And that was based on a George Washington quote.

00:12:25.000 You know, the government is not reason.

00:12:27.000 It is not eloquence.

00:12:29.000 It is force, like fire.

00:12:32.000 It is a fearful master and a dangerous servant.

00:12:35.000 So I used that theme as the title for my speech, and then I decided to write a book, and then that went from one thing to the other.

00:12:42.000 The first video presentation I did was a film of another audio, another speech, I should say, that I was giving called The Grand Design.

00:12:52.000 The grand design in those days was the development of U.S.

00:12:56.000 foreign policy, which was to get rid of U.S.

00:13:00.000 sovereignty, to create a true, what they now call fondly, the New World Order.

00:13:07.000 And in order to do that, they needed to scare the American people with a threat of atomic holocaust. 0.80

00:13:14.000 That was the grand design.

00:13:16.000 So that was the first video I did, and then from there, it just went on down the line I've done things not always having to do with political issues.

00:13:26.000 One of the major works that I consider to be one of the most important things I ever did was something in the field of health.

00:13:32.000 It had to do with cancer.

00:13:34.000 I wrote a book called World Without Cancer, the story of vitamin B-17, which is a natural control for cancer.

00:13:41.000 It has nothing to do with drugs, chemotherapy, or radiation.

00:13:45.000 And I learned a lot while researching and pursuing that field.

00:13:50.000 I did a documentary on the discovery of Noah's Ark, which was more for fun, because I've always had an interest in archaeology and ancient Earth history.

00:13:59.000 But most of my work has been in the field of politics or freedom issues.

00:14:04.000 And in that field, I would say the Creature from Jekyll Island is central.

00:14:08.000 Well, thank you.

00:14:09.000 The Creature from Jekyll Island, of course, is all about the Federal Reserve System.

00:14:13.000 And frankly, Alex, when I wrote that thing, I really thought I was wasting my time.

00:14:19.000 You know, it's a big, thick book.

00:14:20.000 It's 600 and some pages.

00:14:22.000 And I thought, nobody wants to read a big book, or even a small book, for that matter, on the subject of the Federal Reserve.

00:14:28.000 Too dry.

00:14:29.000 Well, much to my surprise, yeah, a lot of people wanted to read about it.

00:14:33.000 Today, it's in its 20th printing, and I just got a call from my warehouse manager the other day saying that we have to go for number 21 now.

00:14:41.000 So, it's amazing, and I think that the economic woes that the nation is facing had a lot to do with the public becoming more concerned with an issue that ordinarily they would not think too much about.

00:14:58.000 You made so many other films though about Katanga and what really happened in Africa and the UN running the slaughter.

00:15:03.000 How many films, how many presentations, how many visual, video film productions have you made?

00:15:12.000 Good question.

00:15:13.000 Altogether, I'd say there's about 30 or 32 somewhere in that range.

00:15:17.000 Most of them were video.

00:15:20.000 A few were about five or six books.

00:15:22.000 And a lot of audio, actually.

00:15:24.000 Audio is really my favorite medium.

00:15:27.000 I cut my tooth, so to speak, on audio back in the days when we used to carry around these big Kedelsky tape recorders, the Niagara's they call them, was used primarily for film work in Hollywood, and they're very high quality tape recorders.

00:15:42.000 And I carried two of those around to a lot of lectures and recorded people who were speaking on various aspects of the freedom movement.

00:15:49.000 And today, actually, I have probably the world's largest collection of original audio recordings in that genre.

00:15:58.000 I knew that I had the second largest one because I used to go around to all of these meetings recording people and I'd run into a particular guy, his name was Harry Laney, who also had another set of Niagara's and he was an engineer that worked for IBM and it was his hobby to record these things.

00:16:15.000 He had absolutely the greatest collection and then some years later when he passed away his widow called me and Asked me if I would like to have his collection.

00:16:23.000 So now I've got his and mine.

00:16:26.000 You need to get some volunteers to like upload all those to Google Video or Audio and get them out to people.

00:16:31.000 I know I have, I mean thousands of them.

00:16:33.000 You could probably put together like a twenty CD set too.

00:16:37.000 Two thousand CD set.

00:16:38.000 I've already converted... You make up data CDs though.

00:16:41.000 Oh, data CDs, yeah, that would be more like it.

00:16:43.000 Actually I have converted some of them to CDs.

00:16:46.000 We call it the Audio Archives Series.

00:16:49.000 I know you've got a lot of, in fact a lot of your old films people can still get.

00:16:52.000 My buddy Chris Athanas bought most of them and aired them on Local Access TV and really woke a lot of people up.

00:16:57.000 Yeah, a lot of old stuff, but most of that material, even though it's old, is very apropos.

00:17:02.000 Oh no, because they just repeat the same thing.

00:17:04.000 It's a methodology.

00:17:05.000 Yeah, it becomes even more valuable with age, because you can realize with the passage of time that the issues are repeating and also that the opinions that we're expressing are valid.

00:17:15.000 the things that we predicted 20 years ago have come to pass.

00:17:18.000 Well, that is the proof in the pudding.

00:17:20.000 I mean, everything you talked about, everything that I've talked about, I mean, we're just going off our own documents.

00:17:25.000 It's all developed.

00:17:28.000 It's all unfolded.

00:17:29.000 And I think that's why so many people now are waking up, because the end game of what we said the globalists, the new order would do, the controllers, the architects, if they ever had their way, that they would do A, B, and C, and they're doing A, B, and C.

00:17:43.000 And I think now how do we capture the attention of all those people and give them goals to try to attain now, and how do we get around all the kooks and weirdos that, and I don't try to be a gatekeeper here, I don't really try to censor or even cover people I disagree with, but there are a lot of weirdos that just because there's a vacuum with the mainstream media lying and spinning, then you have the alternative media with a lot of craziness too.

00:18:06.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:18:07.000 And that's one of the things that I deal with daily.

00:18:11.000 We have a weekly news service we put out called Unfiltered News.

00:18:15.000 And of course, people send me all this stuff and they get upset once in a while because I don't push it through.

00:18:20.000 But I recognize, having been at this game for so many years, that a lot of this stuff is just nonsense. 0.99

00:18:25.000 It's garbage. 0.97

00:18:26.000 Well, also, there will be something divisive. 1.00

00:18:27.000 Like, you've got to say it's all the Jews and they secretly drink blood, and they work for the Vatican, and they're under control of reptoids. 1.00

00:18:35.000 And I'm just here saying, hey, I want to fight the globalist system.

00:18:38.000 If we get into arguing about who controls it all day, I mean, I do cover that some, then, I mean, that gets into cliques and balkanization instead of a message of more liberty, more freedom, UN bad, global government bad.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:50.000 I'm so glad to hear you say that, Alex, because that is a pitfall that's, I think, deliberately put out there by our enemies.

00:18:56.000 They want us to step into those traps.

00:18:58.000 And, yeah, we can't do that.

00:19:00.000 But you know, in this business of predicting what's coming in the future, two days after 9-11, I sat down, like a lot of people did, and wrote something out.

00:19:09.000 You know, we were speaking from passion, speaking from emotion, the event was so overpowering, a lot of us just wanted to put something in writing to capture our thoughts and our feelings.

00:19:20.000 Well, that particular day, I started a a writing session that was to go on for a couple of months.

00:19:27.000 But on the end of the third day, I had written something called "Predictions" from 9/11.

00:19:34.000 And I had made 13 predictions.

00:19:37.000 And I kind of went out on a limb.

00:19:39.000 And I didn't know whether I should publish these or not.

00:19:43.000 And I decided to publish them.

00:19:45.000 And I'm unhappy to say that every one of those predictions has come to pass.

00:19:50.000 That's what I always say.

00:19:51.000 Unfortunately, we've been right.

00:19:53.000 And 9 times out of 10, it actually is worse than what we originally said.

00:19:57.000 Go over some of those 13 and what's happened.

00:19:59.000 Oh, well, anybody that studied the world events could make most of those predictions.

00:20:04.000 You know, I talked about the fact that they would soon discover that the FBI and the intelligence agencies of the federal government had advanced knowledge of this attack, but did nothing to stop it.

00:20:17.000 I made that prediction.

00:20:18.000 I made the prediction that one that really went furthest out on the limb was that they would take a long, long time to find Osama bin Laden.

00:20:29.000 Even though at the moment they were all, we're not going to stop searching the world until we find Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice for these crimes. 0.87

00:20:37.000 And you knew that because you knew they needed a boogeyman, and you've seen this time and time again.

00:20:41.000 I knew that they needed the boogeyman.

00:20:42.000 They needed Osama Bin Laden as some kind of a figure, a symbol of the enemy that the American people could look at and say, we hate this man, we hate this man.

00:20:54.000 It's a ploy that's been used so many times before in history.

00:20:57.000 So that's the kind of thing, Alex.

00:20:59.000 You know, people look at me today and they say, how did you know all these things were going to happen?

00:21:03.000 And I have to say, in all humility, you don't have to be a rocket scientist.

00:21:07.000 All you have to do is just see how these elitists are running the show. 0.69

00:21:11.000 They're pathological. 0.67

00:21:12.000 They're obsessive-compulsive. 0.97

00:21:13.000 In fact, when you read about Prince Charles or Prince Philip or the Queen of England or the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers, it's almost like they are predatory, psychopathic types, control freaks, sadistic types.

00:21:23.000 And they're also, if you read about them, they're obsessed with everything being just right. 0.56

00:21:27.000 You know, every light bulb not being burned out, every yard being cut just perfect.

00:21:31.000 I mean, they're really neurotic and they, it seems to be a type, you know, a psychological type.

00:21:36.000 Of course, there's variance there, but it seems that we've got their M.O.

00:21:40.000 and they just repeat things with this methodology, this formula, over and over again.

00:21:45.000 Can you speak to that?

00:21:46.000 Well, yeah.

00:21:46.000 All I can say, basically, is I agree totally.

00:21:48.000 The first thing to observe, I believe, about this is that the ones who are making the decisions, that's not everybody in the organization structure, but the ones at the very top are very smart people.

00:21:59.000 They're intellectuals.

00:22:01.000 They're well-read, they're well-versed in history, and they're philosophers.

00:22:06.000 And they have an ideology that they have thought through, they're completely aligned with it, they have allegiance to it.

00:22:14.000 Once you understand what their ideology is and what their goals are, then that's when you begin to predict what they're going to do and what they're going to say because like an actor you can put your own mind into that into that set that part that all right what would I do if I believed that let me ask you this question and I mean, to boil down in a simple fashion their ideology, it's N justifies the means.

00:22:41.000 You're always going to have an elite.

00:22:43.000 We are an enlightened elite is their view. 0.99

00:22:45.000 Yes, we want to exterminate the majority of the population.

00:22:48.000 Yes, we're for eugenics, but that's survival of the fittest, that's social Darwinism. 0.93

00:22:53.000 If we don't do it, somebody else will do it. 0.95

00:22:56.000 And so, yes, we stage terror attacks, but it's for the greater good to get these Muslims under control. 1.00

00:23:00.000 Yes, we do put cancer viruses in a lot of the vaccines to get rid of people when they're 65, so we don't have to pay for their retirement. 0.67

00:23:10.000 Logan's run.

00:23:11.000 Yes, we do militarize the police. 0.99

00:23:14.000 We do bring the drugs in, but if the lower class is dumb enough to use them, We're going to put them in prison. 1.00

00:23:18.000 You know, slavery has always been the way it is, and we've got to take care of ourselves, and they get into a power position, too, where they always are being threatened by their own systems, their own competing elites, and so it's a synthesis of evil to where even if you get 0.95

00:23:33.000 Somewhat friendly or the benevolent dictator, they always get removed and the centralized pyramidal power structure allows an elitist or gaggle of elitists, who are the most ruthless, it's kind of a survival of the most ruthless, get into those penultimate positions of power, so by a process of elimination through Through a type of hyper-social Darwinism, you do get the most psychopathic, intelligent, cunning groups.

00:24:00.000 Then power tends to amass in more centralized hands.

00:24:03.000 Then they become inbred, decadent, and insane.

00:24:06.000 But then psychopathic, intelligent bureaucracies grow up around them to defend them and protect them as the institutions themselves and now it's almost a machine that is self-replicating and is just continuing and operating on its own.

00:24:21.000 And the very elites that created it, the very technocracy they've built, is almost like a moss growing on the back of a blue whale or something, and they're just travelers on this thing they've created.

00:24:33.000 Do you agree with that?

00:24:34.000 Well, you said it so well.

00:24:36.000 I can't think of any way to summarize it any better than what you just did.

00:24:40.000 Well, you can.

00:24:41.000 I want you to elaborate on that.

00:24:42.000 I mean, what's their philosophy?

00:24:44.000 You've been around longer.

00:24:45.000 You've fought them.

00:24:46.000 You've confronted them.

00:24:47.000 You've talked to them.

00:24:48.000 I mean, what's their main system?

00:24:49.000 The one aspect of the many things you covered that really stuck in my mind is the truth that in the beginning there's always some kind of a high ideal that drives these men and these women.

00:25:02.000 They're always going to do something for, and here's the key phrase, for the greater good of the greater number.

00:25:07.000 And you're going to find that element behind all of the different variants of collectivism.

00:25:15.000 And I think when we're talking about something like this, we have to recognize the common denominator of all of these ideologies of communism, fascism, Nazism, socialism, all of these things that we know historically have proven to be horrible systems under which to live.

00:25:34.000 The common ideology beneath them all is called collectivism.

00:25:38.000 And the keynote, or the cornerstone, I should say, of collectivism is this thought that The individual must be sacrificed, if necessary, for the greater good of the greater number.

00:25:52.000 And so that is the ether in which this system survives?

00:25:55.000 That is the fertilizer, the ether, whatever it is.

00:25:58.000 And it always starts off with this justification, well, it's too bad, we have to sacrifice this person, or that minority, or those 3,000 people.

00:26:07.000 Those two million people, whatever it is, as long as the number being sacrificed is smaller than the number supposedly being benefited, then they can claim the mantle of being benevolent, that they're really helping society.

00:26:20.000 How should that go back to the military ideal of, I'm going to put a hundred troops out there to draw in the enemy?

00:26:24.000 That hundred's going to get killed, but then we're going to win the battle and that'll save more of our troops in the end.

00:26:28.000 That is exactly the philosophy we're talking about.

00:26:31.000 And there is some justification for it on the battlefield, of course.

00:26:34.000 But when it comes to building a whole political and social system on that principle, you've got some real issues involving human rights.

00:26:41.000 And then you get a bunch of inbred elites on power trips, nihilistically running around building anti-matter weapons.

00:26:48.000 G. Edward Griffin is our guest.

00:26:50.000 We'll tell you about his website, his organizations, and a lot more after this quick break.

00:26:53.000 This is amazing.

00:26:54.000 I may just go into overdrive today so we can play the Horowitz video.

00:26:57.000 We might just go to three with Mr. Griffin if he can do that.

00:26:59.000 And we'll take some calls coming up in the next hour.

00:27:01.000 Stay with me.

00:27:02.000 It is a big idea.

00:27:04.000 A new world order.

00:27:06.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

00:27:11.000 It's known as the Bilderberg.

00:27:13.000 Could their objective be world domination?

00:27:16.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

00:27:19.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the new world order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.

00:27:27.000 We're here behind scenes with Mr. G.O. Griffin during this three-minute break.

00:27:34.000 I mean, I don't want the main audience to miss anything, but also for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and folks listening on the web right now.

00:27:42.000 What are you most excited about right now?

00:27:44.000 What are some of the issues?

00:27:45.000 I mean, I brought up quite a few I want to talk about, but we didn't really have a pre-interview.

00:27:48.000 What are some of the things you want to cover in the next hour?

00:27:51.000 To me, the most exciting thing is the rising potential to do something about these problems.

00:27:57.000 Up until fairly recently, I think most people, even those who are aware, have been running around like chickens with their heads cut off, not knowing what to do about it.

00:28:07.000 And the exciting thing to me, Alex, is that now we're talking sense to people about what are we going to do to reverse this trend, and talking very realistically in terms of coming to power.

00:28:19.000 We know that we can't do anything as long as our solution is to write letters to our congressmen.

00:28:24.000 Congressmen, for the most part, are the problem.

00:28:26.000 So why are we wasting our time writing letters to the guys that are creating the problem, saying, oh please, won't you be nice to us?

00:28:32.000 Won't you listen to our petitions?

00:28:34.000 And that's been the game we've played for too long.

00:28:35.000 Well that's a big one.

00:28:36.000 So let's spend a lot of time on solutions.

00:28:38.000 I want to talk about your event tonight.

00:28:40.000 I also want to talk about, you want to talk about the election some?

00:28:43.000 What are some of the other issues you want to discuss, not just solutions?

00:28:46.000 Well, let's see.

00:28:47.000 The elections are good.

00:28:48.000 What else?

00:28:49.000 The economy, of course.

00:28:50.000 Let's do that first.

00:28:51.000 Let's do economy, then solutions.

00:28:53.000 Well, the economy, elections and solutions.

00:28:55.000 Fine.

00:28:56.000 And we'll take some calls.

00:28:57.000 And if it's okay, we'll just go right to three o'clock.

00:28:59.000 You bet.

00:28:59.000 Okay.

00:29:00.000 I'm going to pull up that video that's on Prison Planet.

00:29:05.000 It's from two hours and like four minutes in is the part I want to play it from.

00:29:11.000 I'll show you, Wes.

00:29:12.000 We'll play that at the end of the show as an overdrive because I promised to play it for the listeners.

00:29:16.000 Or maybe tomorrow I'll play it.

00:29:17.000 Who knows?

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00:30:26.000 Jester Dorm, room A-121A.

00:30:30.000 So just the Jester Dorm, and it's a big room.

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00:30:57.000 Book signing at Brave New Books afterwards, I would imagine, at 10 o'clock at night.

00:31:01.000 It's at 8 p.m. to 9.45, then 15 minutes later after a break across the street.

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00:31:16.000 Now I would love to go see this.

00:31:19.000 People always ask, why don't I come out to events?

00:31:20.000 I'm going to be on BBC 5 for a debate tonight, maybe for a whole hour.

00:31:25.000 They're saying for at least half the hour.

00:31:26.000 That means it's going to be a real attack piece.

00:31:28.000 Won't tell you how long you're on.

00:31:30.000 And then for three hours, I'm going to be on Raleigh James Nationwide tonight at that time.

00:31:34.000 So I can't be there, but believe me, I wish I would be there.

00:31:36.000 I'd love to go to these events.

00:31:37.000 But I hope you will go to this event tonight.

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00:31:41.000 People think I'm not being friendly, that I don't ever go to these events.

00:31:44.000 I just can't because I'm tied down.

00:31:46.000 In the fight.

00:31:47.000 Do you ever, Gilbert Griffin, do you ever get frustrated because you've been a prolific, creative guy, doing more now than ever, that there's just so much you want to do, so many people you want to warn, so many facts you've got, but then you've got so much info that it's just, there's not enough time in the day to do it all.

00:32:03.000 Do I ever get that way?

00:32:05.000 I'm constantly that way.

00:32:07.000 But I decided some years ago that I had to put a lid on it because otherwise I'd be so filled with anxiety and frustration I wouldn't be able to think straight.

00:32:16.000 That's me!

00:32:17.000 Well, I didn't say that!

00:32:21.000 But that's the way I was when I was your age, actually.

00:32:23.000 And then I realized it was getting to my health, and so I kind of backed off a little bit.

00:32:28.000 And people say, oh, you're so calm now.

00:32:30.000 Nothing seems to bother you.

00:32:32.000 They have no idea what fire is raging inside.

00:32:35.000 Yeah, constant frustration and anxiety about what's going on in the world.

00:32:39.000 But somewhere along the line, you know, as you mature, you think, well, okay, you've got to survive all of this.

00:32:44.000 You've got to live.

00:32:44.000 So cool down and take it, you know, one step at a time.

00:32:48.000 That's what I try and do.

00:32:50.000 Absolutely.

00:32:51.000 We're going to break and start the fourth hour here in a moment.

00:32:54.000 I asked you what you wanted to talk about in the last segment for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and people listening to my streams on the internet.

00:33:00.000 InfoWars had a chance to hear that behind the scenes discussion.

00:33:02.000 People can go to those streams if they want to hear.

00:33:04.000 Some of us will be having next hour so we can use as much of the hour As we can.

00:33:09.000 But I want to go over what you want to discuss.

00:33:13.000 The economy, the election, and then solutions.

00:33:16.000 And so we'll spend the whole hour on that, maybe take a few calls, but we've got about a minute left.

00:33:20.000 Let's start with the economy.

00:33:22.000 Well, the economy, I think everyone recognizes, is in meltdown.

00:33:26.000 And why is it in meltdown is the big thing, and what can you do about it?

00:33:30.000 It's in meltdown because the Federal Reserve System, under the watchful eye of the Federal Government, has pumped too much money into the system.

00:33:40.000 They spent too much, they didn't want to raise taxes in order to pay for what they're spending, and so they decided to take it from the taxpayers in the form of inflation.

00:33:50.000 That's, in a 30-second summary, that's what's going on.

00:33:53.000 Do you think they've done this by design?

00:33:55.000 A. Is it a unified banking camp?

00:33:58.000 That's a sub of A. And then B. How bad will it get?

00:34:03.000 I think it is by design on the part of the people that make the decisions.

00:34:07.000 I think there are a lot of people in middle management, people who are part of the system without even knowing really what they're doing, that probably would never consciously design to throw away the American economy.

00:34:18.000 They're just riding along, it's a great ride.

00:34:21.000 But at the very top, I think that the people at the Federal Reserve level, for example, have known all along that that is the end of the line.

00:34:29.000 And so they have had a plan B.

00:34:31.000 I agree.

00:34:31.000 Stay there.

00:34:32.000 Stay there.

00:34:32.000 And that's why they're building the camps, gearing up the police, handing out machine guns.

00:34:36.000 They know that when they take it all, the yuppies are going to riot.

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00:35:59.000 G. Edward Griffin is our guest for the rest of the hour.

00:36:18.000 I may even twist his arm and go a little bit into overdrive.

00:36:21.000 I'm having too much fun.

00:36:22.000 I like to meet this guy in person after all these years.

00:36:25.000 And Dr. Len Horowitz is going to be popping in for about five minutes today.

00:36:29.000 Reverend Jeremiah Wright talked about his book about the engineering of AIDS, which we know is declassified.

00:36:35.000 That and other classes of autoimmune viruses.

00:36:37.000 It's kind of a cover for a whole host of things that are race-specific.

00:36:41.000 I mean, my dad's a physician.

00:36:42.000 He talked to medical doctors back in the 80s.

00:36:44.000 He's like, son, it's a bioweapon.

00:36:46.000 We all know it's almost impossible for whites to get it unless you've been taking heavy metal, you know, based drugs. 0.62

00:36:51.000 You know, the inside, you know, info is that this is a... I'm like, my dad's crazy, you know, I'm thinking when I'm, you know, a little, you know, teenager.

00:37:00.000 And then it all turned out to be true.

00:37:01.000 They knew back then, it was just knowledge.

00:37:04.000 My dad wasn't even into this stuff.

00:37:05.000 I mean, it was just common knowledge.

00:37:06.000 He's going to pop in for five minutes today and then he'll be with us for an hour tomorrow.

00:37:11.000 Geoward Griffin is our guest.

00:37:12.000 Continuing, sir, continuing with what you were talking about when I said, is this engineered or is this happening just because there's such bad managers?

00:37:24.000 Well, I think that the people who make the policy decisions at the Federal Reserve level, and above, by the way, Federal Reserve is, I think your listeners probably know this, the Federal Reserve is not a government agency, it's a cartel, it's a banking cartel.

00:37:42.000 And Bernanke and all the people on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve, they're not really at the top of the pinnacle of this structure.

00:37:50.000 They're not the private shareholders?

00:37:51.000 They're not the private shareholders, they're not the ones that make the decisions, but they make the minor decisions, they execute the major ones.

00:37:58.000 So somebody has told them at the banking level that they want to do whatever is best for the interest of the banks.

00:38:05.000 Now, they don't want to kill the golden goose that lays the egg, so they would like to see the American economy as prosperous as possible, as long as the interests of the banks come first.

00:38:16.000 And I've always said that whenever there was a direct conflict between the interests of the banks and the interests of the nation, you can be sure that the decisions would be made in favor of the banks.

00:38:27.000 Now we're beginning to see that unfold, where almost anybody can see it.

00:38:31.000 And so, the point of all that is that they have known from the very beginning, back when this thing was formed in 1913, that somewhere down the line, pushing the interests of the banks ahead of the interests of the people, was going to have a consequence.

00:38:46.000 And that was the consequence of inflating the money supply.

00:38:50.000 And that would lead to inflation, that would lead eventually to the destruction of the American Monetary Unit, the Federal Reserve note, and somewhere down the line they knew that the price would have to be paid for that.

00:39:03.000 Now, that doesn't mean they wanted to see it happen.

00:39:06.000 That doesn't mean they accelerated it or anything like that, but they have known it was going to happen.

00:39:10.000 Well, I mean, even, I keep mentioning these articles, but even the Sunday Times of London, it was Neocon, but the Financial Times of London, which is Pretty open about what they're doing. 0.53

00:39:19.000 Had the headline that big central banks stand to gain from subprime crisis.

00:39:23.000 And they admit that they're getting all this government money that inflates our money, but they're getting it for free.

00:39:28.000 And then they're going in and buying up their competition.

00:39:31.000 So they reduced the regulations in the 90s.

00:39:35.000 They flooded everything with cheap liquidity.

00:39:37.000 And now they're picking up all the real assets.

00:39:39.000 Oh right, and they're picking it up not with their own money, but with taxpayers' money.

00:39:43.000 Exactly.

00:39:44.000 That's the hidden part that people miss, because one of the purposes of the Federal Reserve, and the same thing with the Bank of England and the central banks in the other countries of the world, is to make this partnership between the banks and the government, so that when the banks needed to be bailed out, The government would step in as a partner and use taxpayers' money to bail out the banks, to bail out their bad investment decisions, and they would sell it to the people as though this was somehow in the interest of the economy.

00:40:13.000 This was preserving the economy.

00:40:14.000 This was protecting the people.

00:40:16.000 And that's what we see unfolding today.

00:40:19.000 But back to the other thing, which is what they expect to see happen at the end of this game.

00:40:25.000 They have known that the economy was going to melt down at some point.

00:40:29.000 So what are they going to do about it?

00:40:30.000 Just wait and then see if they can survive the chaos?

00:40:34.000 No.

00:40:35.000 These people are too smart for that.

00:40:36.000 They want to be in control of the implosion.

00:40:37.000 They want to be in control of the implosion.

00:40:40.000 Stay there, stay there.

00:40:40.000 We've got a break for listeners listening to the InfoWars streams.

00:40:43.000 We're going to continue during the break and we'll be right back on the other side.

00:40:46.000 We're going to get into the election, the staged election, Gilbert Griffin's take on that, some of the new books and videos he's got out, as well as his classic Creature from Jekyll Island, and your phone calls and a lot of solutions.

00:40:58.000 Stay with us.

00:41:03.000 Okay, during the three-minute break we've got, I want to squeeze solutions in.

00:41:08.000 We're going to come back and have the banking discussion, but if we can put on the other hat and get into solutions, kind of a preview.

00:41:13.000 What do you think the basic solutions are, some of the best ideas, most effective things we can do right now?

00:41:19.000 And I've always said the simple thing.

00:41:21.000 Because it's not that sophisticated, but it's wake people up, show them who the enemy is, show the man behind the curtain.

00:41:27.000 We've got to show them there's a man behind the curtain before they know what to do about the man behind the curtain.

00:41:31.000 But now we're starting to get numbers that are big enough where we can do something about the man behind the curtain.

00:41:36.000 Right.

00:41:37.000 Well, yeah, you're quite right.

00:41:38.000 There's a two-stage strategy here.

00:41:40.000 Our forces, up until fairly recently, have not been large enough to do anything.

00:41:44.000 We can just talk about it, but nothing's going to happen.

00:41:47.000 But once we do have that critical mass, where we have enough people, then the question, where are we going to put these people, what are we going to ask them to do, and what can they do?

00:41:57.000 My answer is not as popular as I wish it were, because what I'm basically saying is that we are not going to be able to turn this mess around by 2008.

00:42:10.000 Many people are concerned with solving the problem for the next election, and that's the extent of their vision.

00:42:19.000 If you can't offer them a solution for winning the election and turning everything around, they don't want to talk to you.

00:42:25.000 Well, my message is that it cannot be done.

00:42:28.000 We cannot solve all these problems by the next election.

00:42:32.000 So if that's your time span, forget it.

00:42:34.000 We have nothing to discuss.

00:42:36.000 But if you have a longer view of history... Well, that's how they short-circuit us, is they get us to think about this week, this month, the distraction of the simulated election, instead of the real architecture.

00:42:47.000 The architecture, the groundswell, the building of a movement that's going to go well past 2008.

00:42:52.000 Now we do have solutions.

00:42:54.000 And, of course, that's the reason I created Freedom Force International.

00:42:58.000 I think Freedom Force can become the structure, or the gyroscope, so to speak, that can lead people into creative, effective, reasonable, and realistic solutions.

00:43:11.000 I think we need something like attack profiles, where we just put out blueprints that can be duplicated by cells, and not that we're anything illegal, it's just that so they're leaderless, but they go off a main manifesto.

00:43:23.000 And so it's coordinated, it's uncoordinated, which is the nature of liberty lovers, but then at the same time it's a basic ideal that guides it.

00:43:31.000 It's like a million missiles that are guided by the same trajectory.

00:43:34.000 Yes, I agree.

00:43:35.000 But the issue that no one has really addressed is what?

00:43:40.000 What are they going to do?

00:43:41.000 Exactly.

00:43:42.000 So, when we come back after we talk more about the economy, I want to get into what you think they should do.

00:43:47.000 We're going to go live right now.

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00:44:09.000 Gia Regreffin is our guest, author of Preacher from Jekyll Island.

00:44:29.000 He's got a lot of different websites.

00:44:32.000 One of them is Freedom-Force.org.

00:44:35.000 Freedom-Force.org.

00:44:37.000 We've got a link at the top of the main page of InfoWars.com.

00:44:40.000 We'll tell you about some more of his great sites.

00:44:42.000 Filmmaker.

00:44:43.000 A lot of you woke up to the New World Order because of G. Edward Griffin.

00:44:47.000 You don't know it.

00:44:48.000 Some other author, some other person woke you up, but you don't know that he woke them up.

00:44:52.000 That's how these ripples in a pond happen.

00:44:57.000 It's the guy that was there 20, 30, 40, I guess now 48 years ago when you got started, they're throwing rocks in the pond.

00:45:05.000 There are very few people.

00:45:06.000 Before we get back to the economy, then the election, and then real solutions, who are some of the other icons?

00:45:12.000 I mean, who do you think of as real icons?

00:45:14.000 Who else was around when you were doing what you were doing?

00:45:17.000 And who were some mentors that woke Gilbert Griffin up?

00:45:21.000 Well, there are two names that come to mind.

00:45:23.000 One, probably nobody ever heard of today, and that was Dan Smoot.

00:45:27.000 Dan Smoot was a former... The Smoot Report.

00:45:29.000 The Smoot Report.

00:45:29.000 Well, you heard of it then, yes.

00:45:31.000 Dan Smoot was a little guy.

00:45:33.000 He used to work for the FBI, and he quit his job because he didn't think that his work for the FBI was...

00:45:40.000 Constructive enough, and he became a communicator.

00:45:42.000 And he put out the Dan Smoot Report, and he had a television program very similar to what you're doing here, Alex.

00:45:49.000 Except in those days it was all filmed on 16mm film.

00:45:53.000 It was a place in Texas somewhere.

00:45:55.000 Anyway, Dan Smoot was one of the great mentors for me.

00:46:01.000 And I remember one time thinking, as I was reading Dan Smoot Report, I wish I could write like that.

00:46:08.000 With such clarity of thought.

00:46:09.000 With no garbage in it.

00:46:11.000 Right to the point and very succinct.

00:46:13.000 So Dan Smoot.

00:46:14.000 Another one that is a more controversial figure would be Robert Welch.

00:46:18.000 He was the founder of the John Birch Society.

00:46:20.000 I don't know why it was controversial.

00:46:21.000 Well, it was controversial because most people think that he was a kook. 0.96

00:46:24.000 He was a real nut.

00:46:25.000 Oh, how dare him think that there's big banks financing the communists, which is now all declassified. 0.85

00:46:30.000 I mean, on History Channel, they admit the CIA put Mao in now.

00:46:33.000 Yeah.

00:46:34.000 Well, back in the 60s and 70s, of course, Robert Welch was really anathema as far as the media is concerned.

00:46:41.000 And, you know, my friends and neighbors all thought that I was crazy for even associating with the guy.

00:46:45.000 Because they thought he was a kook. 0.51

00:46:47.000 They weren't sure whether he was a fascist or a communist.

00:46:52.000 Or what? 0.95

00:46:53.000 An anti-Semite or a racist?

00:46:54.000 They had all these words floating around.

00:46:56.000 He was none of the above.

00:46:57.000 He was a very intellectual person and a historian.

00:47:00.000 He had a profound impact on awaking me to awareness of the continuity between what is going on today and what has been going on throughout history.

00:47:12.000 And without that continuity, it's really hard to understand fully the essence of what's going on.

00:47:17.000 Those are the two figures that had a profound effect on me.

00:47:20.000 I like your analysis, though, because we all are just like pebbles in a pond.

00:47:25.000 And if we can attract somebody's attention to the pond, and then they start throwing pebbles in, first thing you know, you've got more and more big waves.

00:47:32.000 Or we could be an A-bomb with a uranium bullet, a plutonium bullet being fired into the uranium, and then you have that interaction, and it's going critical right now.

00:47:42.000 I mean, I want to get more into the economy, but do you agree that this is the biggest You know, exponential growth of awakening from the Matrix to Liberty.

00:47:51.000 I mean, it's just explosive.

00:47:53.000 It's just unbelievable right now.

00:47:55.000 Alex, there's no question about it.

00:47:56.000 This is approaching critical mass, and that pulls my mind back to a topic we were on track with a moment ago.

00:48:04.000 Which is what these guys are anticipating to happen down at the end of the line.

00:48:08.000 We were talking about the economy at that time, so let me address that.

00:48:12.000 Let's finish up with the economy.

00:48:14.000 Because what they expect to see is a collapse of the U.S.

00:48:17.000 dollar.

00:48:17.000 They've been expecting that for decades.

00:48:20.000 And so right now, they have unleashed Plan B, which is, you see, their long-range goal is to get rid of the sovereignty of this nation, to literally get rid of the United By the way, the Trilaterals in the 70s said they would first have, you know, three global currencies and then merge those.

00:48:35.000 Yeah, so this is not a last minute plan.

00:48:39.000 And so now that the dollar is tanking, they're prepared to come on in the near future and say, Aha!

00:48:44.000 We have a solution for you folks.

00:48:46.000 It'll be called the Amaro.

00:48:48.000 It'll be a new currency.

00:48:49.000 Dollarize the Americas, and together that will get our credit back up, and then things can start moving, and then as soon as we accept that, then they turn the credit back on, and we think, oh, they fixed it!

00:48:59.000 They fixed it, yeah.

00:49:00.000 So that will be a huge step to surrender our national sovereignty, so they will gain toward their ultimate goal, and we, if we're not careful, will be sold a bill of goods and be convinced that we've done a wonderful thing.

00:49:14.000 So, that's the answer.

00:49:15.000 They do have a plan for everything, and that's not the end of the line either.

00:49:19.000 Once the Amaro or the regional currency is in place, then I would guess another 10, 15, 20 years perhaps, then finally they get rid of all of the regional currencies and merge them into a true international currency.

00:49:31.000 And again, the process will be the same.

00:49:33.000 The citizens of the world will be convinced that it was a step forward in their own best interest.

00:49:38.000 Now the average person doesn't think in an institutional or long-term view.

00:49:41.000 They don't even care about their neighbor.

00:49:43.000 They've been taught to.

00:49:43.000 They don't care about their kids, a lot of them.

00:49:45.000 Or they consciously do, but really don't carry that out.

00:49:49.000 And so they think, well how could something last that long?

00:49:52.000 Why would they work for someone that came in the future?

00:49:54.000 It's institutional family wealth.

00:49:57.000 They sit over the institutions that give them personal wealth and power.

00:50:00.000 It's in their best interest to always be expanding that power and control.

00:50:05.000 It's part of a greater work that they're building, kind of like the guy that's sculpting one of the great Indian chiefs in the mountains.

00:50:13.000 It'll probably take two more generations to do it.

00:50:15.000 That's how universities, that's how organizations, that's how things continue.

00:50:20.000 And they've stated all of this.

00:50:22.000 They own the currencies now.

00:50:23.000 They get power and control.

00:50:24.000 It's just they're going to another phase where they've got total global control because there's still cracks in the facade where people can still escape.

00:50:32.000 There's still black markets.

00:50:34.000 This is a total scientific dictatorship.

00:50:36.000 The total managed economy.

00:50:38.000 The final revolution.

00:50:41.000 The monopoly of power that they're going for.

00:50:44.000 Can you break that down for people?

00:50:46.000 Well, yes, again, you've said it so well, Alex, but my own take on it is that this process of collectivism, that's what we're talking about, this concentration of governmental and political and economic power in the hands of a few who are making the decision, supposedly in the name of the greater number, It's for your own good, for the good of society, is heady wine.

00:51:09.000 Maybe that's the wrong analogy.

00:51:10.000 It's like a pregnancy. 0.70

00:51:12.000 Once it starts, it's got to go to full term.

00:51:15.000 There's no case in history that a group of men who have pulled power over their fellow human beings, pulled it together, that they've ever stopped and said, well, this is enough.

00:51:25.000 It's never happened.

00:51:26.000 They always want more, more, and more.

00:51:29.000 And so... Isn't this a guild of the ultimate control freaks?

00:51:32.000 It is a guild.

00:51:33.000 And the interesting thing is that they will vie with each other over control of that guild.

00:51:38.000 So we have splinters within this movement today.

00:51:42.000 Very important splinters.

00:51:43.000 But it's like Russian dolls.

00:51:44.000 It's within the greater structure.

00:51:45.000 Yes, yes.

00:51:46.000 But they will fight with each other for dominance.

00:51:48.000 And maybe we can come back to that.

00:51:50.000 And they even talk about that and say that's what gives them vigor.

00:51:52.000 Yeah.

00:51:53.000 Kind of like O'Brien torturing Winston.

00:51:54.000 He says, they're probably going to kill me too.

00:51:56.000 But that's good. 0.87

00:51:57.000 Because, you know, you think I have black circles around my eyes.

00:51:59.000 Well, you know, my unhealth, me being worn out is part of the greater health of the vigor.

00:52:05.000 We're the priest of power.

00:52:06.000 It's about pressing on the nerve, Winston.

00:52:08.000 It's always more, more, tearing humans apart, tearing language, tearing art, reducing it for power!

00:52:14.000 Yes!

00:52:15.000 My gosh, that's well said!

00:52:19.000 I know, and it's so true! 0.82

00:52:21.000 It's power for its own sake, it takes on a life force of its own.

00:52:25.000 And the point being, as I see it, that this process has never stopped short of total, once it starts.

00:52:33.000 So, do we learn anything from that?

00:52:36.000 The question is yes.

00:52:37.000 I think we can learn that the process that we're dealing with now is not going to stop of its own accord.

00:52:44.000 If we just sit back and say, well, maybe these people are going to come to their senses, or maybe if we write a letter to our congressmen, or maybe if we sign a petition asking that they obey the Constitution, maybe we can stop this power.

00:52:56.000 No.

00:52:56.000 We've got to confront that power with equal or greater power.

00:53:00.000 And this is the part that many people do not want to face.

00:53:04.000 Let's do solutions, because Horowitz is coming up briefly.

00:53:06.000 Let's just do solutions now and then get into how Barack Obama, it's all a distraction, you know that short-term thing, they get us diverted and distracted, that theatrical simulation of an election.

00:53:19.000 Yeah, that's a great topic too, but I think you're quite right.

00:53:22.000 The thing that we need to take away from any discussion like this is, what the heck are we going to do about it?

00:53:29.000 And I come back to the word power that I used a moment ago.

00:53:34.000 The thing that the forces of freedom have been missing, at least in the United States, in the period of time in which I've been aware of it, I've been a part of this movement since 1959-1960, The one thing that has been missing from this movement all these years is the understanding and the awareness that we have to have power.

00:53:55.000 I remember for years standing in front of audiences and saying, well, the concentration of power is very dangerous and that's the problem.

00:54:02.000 All these people are getting too much power over us.

00:54:04.000 Now, we ourselves must not have power.

00:54:06.000 We must take the power away from them somehow, but we ourselves must reject power because that's the problem.

00:54:12.000 No, we need power!

00:54:14.000 Yes, but you see, that's the part that I was missing, and many people have missed.

00:54:18.000 And then one morning I woke up... We only need power to tear down their structures, and then to guard against the structures being rebuilt.

00:54:24.000 But that is power nevertheless.

00:54:26.000 Yes, well it's dangerous, but see, that's where the anarchists are wrong.

00:54:29.000 You've got to have some state to defend against the state.

00:54:32.000 It is dangerous.

00:54:33.000 But you've got to be eternally vigilant and guard the jewel.

00:54:36.000 Well, you're right on target.

00:54:38.000 You see, it took me much longer to figure this out.

00:54:40.000 I woke up one morning and said, oh, as long as we say that we must not have power, we lose.

00:54:45.000 We are going to lose.

00:54:46.000 And so then the next step was, well, how can we... Well, when I own a gun, I have power.

00:54:50.000 When I can own private property, I have power.

00:54:52.000 Exactly.

00:54:52.000 And I need power not to have baubles and trinkets and signets of power, but to defend myself.

00:54:57.000 Exactly.

00:54:58.000 I like that analogy because guns are dangerous, are they not?

00:55:02.000 Very dangerous.

00:55:02.000 People get hurt with guns, get killed with guns.

00:55:04.000 The only thing more dangerous is not having them when you need them.

00:55:08.000 I got one right here, G. Eber-Griffin.

00:55:09.000 And it's not because I'm some gun nut, it's because if some crazy comes in here, I'm going to defend myself.

00:55:13.000 Yeah, you don't want to make a 9-11 call.

00:55:15.000 And so it's the power over not coming home to my family.

00:55:20.000 Right.

00:55:21.000 So that's the analogy.

00:55:22.000 We do need power to protect ourselves.

00:55:25.000 And so in this political arena, in the ideological arena, the reason we have been losing our liberties is because these crazies, these collectivists, these totalitarians who have a different vision for the new world.

00:55:36.000 They crave it, they want it.

00:55:37.000 And they have it.

00:55:38.000 They have it.

00:55:39.000 They have spent a hundred years moving into the power centers of society. 0.99

00:55:43.000 And now these freaks are going to kill 90% of us. 0.98

00:55:45.000 Stay there, G. Edward Griffin. 0.99

00:55:46.000 We're going to be right back after this break.

00:55:48.000 This is just unbelievable.

00:55:50.000 We'll go over the past three if it's okay.

00:55:51.000 But you can take a break right now for four minutes, okay?

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01:00:13.000 We're the renegades in this atomic age.

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01:00:30.000 We're renegades.

01:00:37.000 And we're going to go to break here in just a few minutes.

01:00:40.000 And Dr. Lynn Horowitz is going to be popping in for about five minutes with us.

01:00:45.000 Mr. Griffin is going to stay with us.

01:00:46.000 Continuing with Solutions, Freedom Force International, sir.

01:00:51.000 That's my cue?

01:00:52.000 Okay.

01:00:52.000 Yes, sir.

01:00:53.000 Well, we were talking about power, and the danger of power.

01:00:57.000 And the good analogy was made that guns are dangerous, and that people get hurt with guns, but the only thing more dangerous is not having them when you need them.

01:01:06.000 Okay.

01:01:07.000 Now we deal with political power.

01:01:09.000 It's dangerous.

01:01:10.000 Everybody knows Lord Acton's well-known quote.

01:01:15.000 Acton said, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

01:01:21.000 And so that was the cue I had years ago to say, well, if power corrupts, therefore we shouldn't have power.

01:01:27.000 And then I realized that if you don't have power, you lose.

01:01:30.000 So the question then became, is it possible for a movement such as ours to reach for power, political power, and yet design it in such a way that it cannot be corrupted?

01:01:42.000 By the power.

01:01:44.000 And the answer is yes, it can be done.

01:01:46.000 It's just never been tried.

01:01:47.000 Well, that's not true.

01:01:48.000 It was tried in the case of the American Revolution.

01:01:50.000 Well, that's what the founders tried, and it did separate power for a while, and it did limit it enough for at least some freedom to take place, and it was the greatest engine ever.

01:01:58.000 It was a great experiment.

01:01:59.000 It was the first step ever in history where people consciously tried to write a document that would limit the power of their own political leaders.

01:02:07.000 And 5% of the population got half the world's wealth.

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:10.000 It didn't work, did it?

01:02:11.000 Well, it's not surprising, because it was a beta model.

01:02:15.000 We are going to come to the time soon, I think, Alex, where we're going to have a chance to rework that model.

01:02:20.000 Now we go to the second model, and we will have learned a lot in the process.

01:02:24.000 The question is, how can you limit people with political power from being corrupted by it?

01:02:29.000 And the answer, I believe, is to have a well-thought-out definition of what the purpose of government is.

01:02:37.000 And if we limit the power of government, as we did to some extent with the Bill of Rights, in our own Constitution, say that Congress shall not have the power to do this, this, and this, and then put teeth into it, we can keep our elected leaders from being corrupted by power, because they won't be given the power in the first place.

01:02:56.000 That's the solution.

01:02:57.000 Don't give them the power.

01:02:59.000 So, that's my answer to it.

01:03:00.000 And that's the reason that with Freedom Force International, First thing we did was to introduce what we call the Creed of Freedom.

01:03:11.000 And the Creed of Freedom is the statement of principles, positive principles, that all members adhere to.

01:03:18.000 And if all of our members and all of our elected representatives adhered to the principles of the Creed of Freedom, then there would be no way for power to corrupt those individuals.

01:03:29.000 And to be clear, nothing's ever going to be perfect.

01:03:31.000 We're striving towards more liberty, towards more freedom, instead of racing at light speed towards total tyranny.

01:03:37.000 Don't expect it to be perfect, no.

01:03:39.000 Human nature isn't perfect.

01:03:41.000 But we can be a lot closer to the goal than we are now, that's for sure.

01:03:45.000 Talk more about Freedom Force International.

01:03:48.000 Well, the whole purpose of Freedom Force was to do basically what I've been talking about, and that is to help our members to acquire power.

01:03:56.000 We know that without power, we cannot achieve any political reform.

01:04:01.000 In fact, the motto of Freedom Force is this.

01:04:04.000 In English, it's, those without power cannot defend freedom.

01:04:10.000 And there it is in a nutshell.

01:04:11.000 We've got to quit being on the outside of the halls of power.

01:04:15.000 Looking in, saying, oh please, those of you who make political decisions, won't you please listen to us?

01:04:21.000 Well, I've said we've even got to infiltrate.

01:04:21.000 Won't you please?

01:04:24.000 That doesn't mean being dishonest, but be covert, act like mainline conservatives, get into power, and then really leak info.

01:04:32.000 I mean at the city council, send people to jail, find the crud, hire P.I.s to follow corrupt mayors, you're going to catch them, put the video of them cheating on their wife on the web.

01:04:41.000 I mean, I've told people to go ahead and get mean.

01:04:44.000 Well, getting mean, that's not infiltrating, that's doing your obligation.

01:04:49.000 You go into political office because you want to serve the nation or the city.

01:04:52.000 No, I do.

01:04:53.000 I want to bring down these people. 0.99

01:04:54.000 Yeah, bring down the corrupt ones.

01:04:56.000 But that doesn't necessarily mean that that's your primary motive.

01:05:00.000 I think people should go into political office who want to serve their community, not because... But you serve by getting the corrupt people off the ground.

01:05:06.000 You've got to do that first, obviously, yeah.

01:05:08.000 So that's the nutshell.

01:05:10.000 We have members now, Alex, in 58 countries.

01:05:13.000 It just blows me away, I can't believe that.

01:05:16.000 Because I find out that there are people in All over the world that have basically the same problem.

01:05:21.000 And it's growing.

01:05:23.000 I tell you what, stay there, stay there.

01:05:25.000 We're going to come back and talk, shift gears about their bioweapons programs against us, which I know you've covered, and the whole eugenics agenda. 0.96

01:05:31.000 We're going to talk to Len Horowitz in about five minutes.

01:05:33.000 Then we're going to continue going back into solutions.

01:05:35.000 I want to spend a lot of time on that and then maybe a few calls, maybe go ten minutes into the next hour and take a few calls as well.

01:05:43.000 We'll be right back.

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01:09:11.000 Continuing with solutions in the fight against the New World Order.

01:09:15.000 We've got Dr. Horowitz coming on for a full hour tomorrow.

01:09:18.000 I appreciate him and his very busy schedule with his clinic and books and films and all the prolific work he's doing coming on on such short notice.

01:09:25.000 But this is why we've got him on and tomorrow he's going to document this for everybody.

01:09:29.000 I know a lot of you know this but your friends, family, neighbors don't.

01:09:32.000 Tell them to tune in tomorrow for the full hour.

01:09:34.000 Tell them to go to inlieswetrust.com.

01:09:36.000 We have a story we wrote today Up on PrisonPlanet.com, Wright says U.S.

01:09:42.000 government capable of creating AIDS virus.

01:09:44.000 Hecklers turn mute after pastor cites documented history of biological warfare against innocent people.

01:09:50.000 And man, Dr. Horowitz has been kind enough to put his film up for free on Google Video, though he recommends you get I've watched it, it's just amazing, documenting all the admissions of how they're killing it, much like my film Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement does.

01:10:04.000 So let's play this minute and a half of Reverend Wright at the Press Club.

01:10:07.000 This is big news as they attack Reverend Wright all over neocon, fake conservative radio, liberal TV, saying he's completely nuts, the government.

01:10:15.000 It's never marched our troops into chambers in Nerve Gaston. 0.86

01:10:18.000 It never let black men die without treatment for 50 years of syphilis. 0.69

01:10:21.000 It never radiated little children. 0.95

01:10:24.000 The government loves you!

01:10:25.000 Here's Reverend Wright.

01:10:26.000 In your sermon, you said the government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.

01:10:34.000 So I ask you, do you honestly believe your statement and those words?

01:10:39.000 Have you read Horowitz's book, Emerging Viruses, AIDS and Ebola?

01:10:44.000 Whoever wrote that question?

01:10:45.000 Have you read Medical Apartheid?

01:10:47.000 you ready i have a lot of no questions from the floor I read different things.

01:10:57.000 As I said to my members, if you haven't read things and you can't... Based on this Tuskegee experiment and based on what has happened to Africans in this country, I believe our government is capable of doing anything. 1.00

01:11:10.000 In fact, in fact, in fact, One of the responses to what Saddam Hussein had in terms of biological warfare was a non-question because all we had to do was check the sales records.

01:11:25.000 We sold him those biological weapons that he was using against his own people. 1.00

01:11:30.000 So any time a government can put together biological warfare to kill people and then get angry when those people use what we sold them, yes, I believe we are capable.

01:11:41.000 And again, for a full hour tomorrow, we're going to have Dr. Len Horowitz on, just on this particular subject, but there it is being cited.

01:11:48.000 It's all over national television, which is going to backfire on them because they're going to find his film, they're going to find his best-selling book, they're going to find out.

01:11:56.000 And by the way, I didn't just believe Horowitz and others when I discovered all this 12 years ago, though I found him to be very accurate.

01:12:02.000 I went out and looked it up myself and found out that it's a haul of horrors.

01:12:06.000 It just never seems to end.

01:12:08.000 Dr. Horowitz, thanks for coming on on short notice.

01:12:11.000 Your take on this firestorm nationally, right now, being triggered by Reverend Wright reading your book and others.

01:12:18.000 Well, it's obvious that the mainstream media is really completely taking everybody away from the most important thing, is the genocide.

01:12:26.000 I know you've been telling people that, and I've been saying that.

01:12:29.000 G. Edward Griffin has been saying that, many others.

01:12:31.000 And the fact that he could make such a statement, he could cite the scientific evidence, The book, Emerging Viruses, the documentation we have on the website, originofaids.com, the movie, as you mentioned, that's freely downloadable in Lives We Trust, showing the documents that shows the United States federal government created numerous AIDS-like and Ebola-like viruses.

01:12:54.000 Let them out, virtually Henry Kissinger's directive to develop these things, and through the Merck Pharmaceutical Company, supplied by the Nixon White House official named Roy Ashe's company, was lit in Bionetics, they created the vaccines from the Merck Company.

01:13:11.000 The CDC played a role in developing the vaccine, Hepatitis B vaccine, given to gay men in New York City, blacks in Central Africa, that absolutely supported, Slam-dunk evidence proves that this was what triggered the international AIDS pandemic. 0.62

01:13:25.000 Now for the media to not be focusing on that, millions of people dying, and they're going to go right along, play the same old, same old political nonsense games that they're playing.

01:13:36.000 This is genocide, and it's got to stop.

01:13:38.000 And even Al Sharpton's criticizing Wright for talking about Tuskegee.

01:13:42.000 I mean, they just deny all this.

01:13:45.000 To their faces.

01:13:46.000 But I guess Margaret Sanger went and hired W.E.B. 0.99

01:13:50.000 Du Bois and others to go, as he said, we can't let the blacks know we want to exterminate them. 0.98

01:13:55.000 By the way, that's an exact quote. 0.98

01:13:56.000 So we've, you know, the head of the Soap Foundation was at Colgate.

01:14:01.000 He's giving me money to go hire the blacks as our fronts. 1.00

01:14:04.000 And I just think it's shameful. 0.99

01:14:06.000 Disgustingly, it makes you nauseous. 0.98

01:14:09.000 And the fact that they have black men and women who could watch their own people and millions of others of various races die without actually benefiting. 0.97

01:14:19.000 Not necessarily just keeping their mouth shut, but actually being part of the conspiracy of silence that is literally allowing this genocide to continue. 0.98

01:14:28.000 This is despicable.

01:14:30.000 It is beyond human.

01:14:31.000 It is alien to any kind of loving But they claim it justifies the means for the greater good of the earth and the elite.

01:14:40.000 Gilbert Griffin, your take on this.

01:14:42.000 Well yeah, that's how they justify all of these insane programs.

01:14:46.000 And so we have to sacrifice a few people along the way.

01:14:48.000 A few hundred thousand people or a few million people.

01:14:51.000 Look at the great benefit that comes out of this.

01:14:53.000 You know, we've got population control now.

01:14:56.000 So it's in the long run they claim that they're quite humanitarian.

01:14:59.000 InLiesWeTrust.com.

01:15:01.000 Dr. Horowitz is on for a full hour tomorrow with us to really break down the documents and go through this and talk about his new film.

01:15:08.000 Dr. Horowitz, we'll talk to you tomorrow.

01:15:10.000 Thank you so much for spending time with us.

01:15:12.000 Thanks guys.

01:15:12.000 Pleasure.

01:15:13.000 Bye.

01:15:13.000 we'll see tomorrow and i thought we'd bring you that newsmaker uh... there uh...

01:15:18.000 g_-word griffin i mean for the average person out there it's hard for them they judge the world according to their social mores understand the elite have stated what they're doing i keep using this example because there's hundreds of the use but one of the prominent uh...

01:15:33.000 biology professors the university texas are in austin dr bianca two years ago came out and gave a speech at the texas academy of He's gotten awards in Europe from prestigious universities.

01:15:43.000 He said, we need to kill 90%.

01:15:45.000 I can't wait until Ebola gets airborne. 0.99

01:15:48.000 And he showed a PowerPoint of skulls.

01:15:51.000 And he dresses, on his own website, on the UT website, he dresses as a druid and talks about how he loves Lucifer.

01:15:57.000 I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

01:15:59.000 I mean, these people are just totally insane, but they've got power.

01:16:03.000 But the news is that two different papers reported what shocked scientists in attendance was 95% standing ovation.

01:16:10.000 Not at the end, but repeatedly.

01:16:12.000 When he said that everyone needs to die, and then I had his graduate students, and I tracked who they were, I'd Google their name afterwards, and they'd say, here's my online, you know, this is why I got a doctorate in.

01:16:22.000 They'd be running, you know, bio laboratories and level three weapons labs, and you know, you'd go, my God, it'd be young women, men, and they're like, he is not extreme enough, we are for total death of the humans, the human is a scourge, and I mean, and it's like, we will soon deal with all of you, and they're in the bio weapons labs, And they're sending me threatening letters with their name, and then I post their pictures saying, look at this person.

01:16:47.000 They gave me, and they freak out on me and threaten me. 0.96

01:16:49.000 I mean, because in their own little bubble, it's all kill, kill everyone. 1.00

01:16:54.000 Death is wonderful. 0.95

01:16:55.000 I mean, I don't think listeners can understand.

01:16:57.000 I'm not joking.

01:16:58.000 These people are dangerous.

01:17:00.000 They're everywhere.

01:17:02.000 G. Everett Griffin, can you talk about the large, you know, population reduction program?

01:17:05.000 Ted Turner, Prince Philip, all these statements.

01:17:08.000 Yeah, well, it always comes back to that issue of the greater good for the greater number, and people might say, well, how can that be?

01:17:14.000 If they're planning to get rid of 80-90% of the population, that's the greater number right there.

01:17:20.000 Well, what they miss is that it's not really the greater number, the issue is the greater good.

01:17:26.000 And it's the greater good of the elite!

01:17:29.000 They have to survive as guardians, because they have the great vision!

01:17:33.000 And they also have the vision of preserving the ecology of the planet. 1.00

01:17:38.000 You see, our environment is in danger, so now we get rid of 90%... We can't wait until we kill these humans! 1.00

01:17:43.000 Yeah, because they'd like to make it seem like the humans are the ones endangering the environment. 0.99

01:17:48.000 So now, you see, the greater good is to preserve planet Earth.

01:17:52.000 And if we have to get rid of human beings, then that is a humanitarian... But it's beautiful! 1.00

01:17:56.000 In fact, he was interviewed by TV and newspaper, and he said, I know my family needs to die first.

01:18:03.000 It's very sad, but it's also beautiful. 0.94

01:18:05.000 We're all going to be dead soon. 0.79

01:18:07.000 You'll see soon!

01:18:09.000 And meanwhile, you find out they cooked up Ebola.

01:18:12.000 I mean, my God, these people need to all be arrested immediately!

01:18:15.000 You talk about power, we need the power to gross them and get up and stand up against them!

01:18:19.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

01:18:20.000 The most incredible part is the applause that these people get.

01:18:23.000 And the only reason they get the applause and the endorsement is because the audience is so tuned, so focused on saving the planet against human effect on the planet.

01:18:35.000 It's horrible to say we have to kill 355,000 people a day, but it's even more horrible not to say it.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, thank you, Jacques Cousteau.

01:18:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:42.000 Well, I want to tell all this scum, I want to see them all hanging themselves, slitting their own throats. 1.00

01:18:48.000 I want to see them jumping off cliffs. 1.00

01:18:49.000 Not me and my family. 1.00

01:18:50.000 Listen you bastards, you're not going to kill me without a fight. 1.00

01:18:53.000 Well, amen. 1.00

01:18:54.000 I love that.

01:18:55.000 Let's talk about power.

01:18:55.000 How do we get power?

01:18:57.000 Well, we get power the same way we lost it.

01:18:59.000 And the way we lost it in this country, let's talk about that, is not because somebody showed up on our shores with uniforms and weapons in their hand and invaded us.

01:19:09.000 It's because they crept into our universities and into our media centers and they crept into our think tanks and they crept into our government agencies.

01:19:19.000 foundations funded that in funding that holding creeping into the power centers of society very quietly unobtrusively with a mission to control now what are the power centers of society well that's easy the at the top of the list you'd say political parties government agencies you know labor unions church organizations but then you get a little more subtle you realize that willow's are media organizations as well Networks, publications, book publishers, and so forth.

01:19:47.000 And then the educational universities, the school systems, even at your local state level.

01:19:53.000 You look at the people who are sitting on the boards of directors, and the controlling power within all of these groups.

01:20:00.000 Nine chances out of ten, you're going to find people who have this collectivist mentality.

01:20:04.000 Now, it didn't just happen with a flip of the coin.

01:20:07.000 This was not accidental.

01:20:08.000 This was not a random thing.

01:20:10.000 People who believe in this concept know instinctively that they must acquire power over us to force their views on us Against our will.

01:20:20.000 And they know that the agency or the engine of force is government.

01:20:25.000 And that's where they go.

01:20:26.000 That's how it happened.

01:20:27.000 We lost our freedoms and we lost control because the agencies of power have been conquered quietly from the inside.

01:20:34.000 And now they know and they project it.

01:20:36.000 I mean, they're very sophisticated.

01:20:37.000 They know that they can carry out eugenics programs. 0.97

01:20:40.000 It comes out they're killing people.

01:20:42.000 Then they make it a black-white thing, though it's really against everybody.

01:20:45.000 It's just more of a soft kill in the Western world because they don't want to get caught.

01:20:48.000 They can do a little bit of the harder kills in Africa and Asia where they can cover it up better. 0.99

01:20:52.000 The UN shows up, gives all the pregnant women shots with the police because they've been paid. 0.95

01:20:56.000 They all have miscarriages and then they can't have babies anymore. 0.70

01:20:58.000 That's all admitted.

01:20:59.000 Then they test the vaccine.

01:21:00.000 It's got a very expensive synthetic hormone added that sterilizes them because it was added to the pathogen of the tetanus.

01:21:07.000 I mean, they do this and the cop just knows he's been given some money.

01:21:10.000 You know, the local mayor just, you know, it's poor villagers who can't fight back.

01:21:16.000 You know, we need to break through the compartmentalization and show their minions what they're part of.

01:21:20.000 So how do we deal with not just taking power, and I want to hear your ideas of getting that power back, and then dismantling their system, and building bulwarks against its re-emergence, but how do we, they foresaw us fighting back when they really started the squeeze.

01:21:35.000 They tried to handcuff us down before they sucked us dry like a spider gets us tied up first, but they know some of us aren't completely tied up, so they've Well, boy, there's so many issues there, Alex.

01:21:44.000 to mindlessly follow orders.

01:21:45.000 They put the surveillance grid in, so when they implode the economy, they can come in and get full control.

01:21:51.000 How do we counter that?

01:21:52.000 Well, boy, there's so many issues there, Alex.

01:21:55.000 I don't know that I have the answer to all of them, or even many of them, but I do know that there is an answer to that question in general.

01:22:03.000 The first step, as mentioned earlier, is to get more people into our ranks.

01:22:07.000 We cannot do it with the numbers we now have.

01:22:10.000 So, this business of educating and spreading the word still has a great deal of value.

01:22:16.000 But then, after that point, and even now, while we're doing that, we've got to mobilize these people to network with each other.

01:22:22.000 And my solution is that they have to help each other get into these power centers of society.

01:22:28.000 They have to run for office.

01:22:29.000 They have to develop ways and means of raising money.

01:22:32.000 Is it immoral to be covert about what you plan to do in government?

01:22:37.000 See, that's what they did.

01:22:39.000 And so this is a war.

01:22:40.000 Do we have some of our people go underground?

01:22:43.000 Some of our people not associate with us and covertly operate as sleepers?

01:22:48.000 And the government's already warning of that for decades.

01:22:50.000 They've already foreseen that threat.

01:22:52.000 And then not to do illegal things, but to expose all their criminality once we get into power positions.

01:22:56.000 Or is there a danger of being co-opted and selling out if you get in that nest?

01:23:01.000 My answer to that is that you don't even need to deal with the ethical question.

01:23:06.000 Well, the electronic voting machines cheat.

01:23:07.000 It's almost like you've got to cheat to get in there.

01:23:10.000 Start cheating.

01:23:11.000 My answer to that is it's never strategically right or ethically right to be deceitful.

01:23:16.000 That's why I was asking.

01:23:16.000 Never.

01:23:18.000 I never do it.

01:23:18.000 I'm just like a bull in a china shop.

01:23:20.000 But I can see strategically then, that gives them a big advantage because they can lie, but in the end that's why they're discredited because they do lie.

01:23:26.000 That's right.

01:23:27.000 We have the advantage because we don't lie.

01:23:29.000 That is, being always and not having to worry about what lie you told last is a tremendous advantage.

01:23:34.000 Absolutely.

01:23:35.000 Just say it the way it really is.

01:23:36.000 I don't think we need to resort to those methods.

01:23:39.000 So anyway, the step is we've got to get networked together, we've got to help each other get into these power centers and be prepared to do battle.

01:23:47.000 Now right now, there's a perfect example of that.

01:23:49.000 There are these Ron Paul groups that are struggling to get their delegates seated at the various state nominating committees and conventions.

01:23:57.000 And they're just learning now what the reality of political life is.

01:24:02.000 People say no, you can't.

01:24:03.000 They can't, yeah.

01:24:05.000 What if they put their energy into Cadres of Fighting NAU?

01:24:09.000 I've said Paul should tell them, give them work to do, and give them ideas where they can actually bear some fruit.

01:24:14.000 Well, also I think they need to be prepared to face this kind of opposition within these Republican groups.

01:24:20.000 For example, right now I was talking with a few people just the other day.

01:24:24.000 They said, well, you know, they broke the rules during the convention.

01:24:29.000 They actually broke their rules.

01:24:30.000 And I said to them, well, of course they did.

01:24:32.000 What are rules to these people?

01:24:35.000 All of you out there, engaging and losing is half the battle, because you learn they really are corrupt, and you learn their tricks, and you get smarter each time.

01:24:42.000 That's right.

01:24:43.000 And so you know that you're dealing with totalitarians.

01:24:46.000 Totalitarians have one moral code, and that's the morality of war.

01:24:52.000 There's only one immoral act, and that's to lose.

01:24:55.000 Everything else is moral.

01:24:56.000 That's what we're up against.

01:24:57.000 So, what do you do when you're facing people like that?

01:25:00.000 That doesn't mean you have to adopt that morality, but it does mean you have to be prepared for them to do absolutely anything to keep you from winning.

01:25:09.000 And now, what you do about that, I cannot give advice.

01:25:12.000 Let's say that you went to a convention and you knew that if you had a majority vote, you thought that these people might bring thugs in to just physically beat you up and throw you out.

01:25:24.000 That happens.

01:25:24.000 It happens all the time.

01:25:26.000 What do you do about it?

01:25:26.000 A hundred years ago, they would mow down labor unions.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, right.

01:25:30.000 This is as old as history.

01:25:31.000 Now they run the private prisons.

01:25:32.000 Yeah.

01:25:33.000 So now what do you do with that?

01:25:34.000 And I know what I would do.

01:25:36.000 I would get all my big sons and say, come on with me.

01:25:39.000 As many big guys as I could. 0.95

01:25:40.000 That's why they got the SWAT teams ready to mow you down and plant bombs on you.

01:25:43.000 So you got to educate people that they're the terrorists first.

01:25:45.000 That's right.

01:25:46.000 Yeah.

01:25:47.000 So there's no simple answer, is there?

01:25:48.000 But we do have to No, I mean, that really does come down to it.

01:25:51.000 This country had a lot of freedom.

01:25:52.000 We haven't been perfect because people were willing to kill. 1.00

01:25:55.000 And there was a rule, you mess with me, I'm going to kill you. 0.97

01:25:57.000 That's why down here in Texas, in old Texas, there wasn't a lot of cheating and stealing going on because you mess with somebody's daughter, or you cheat somebody, they're going to kill you. 0.71

01:26:05.000 I mean, just 50, 60 years ago, people would kill you around here.

01:26:08.000 Now, we've been gelded and ninnied, so there's more corruption.

01:26:10.000 But it used to, I mean, I remember the stories.

01:26:12.000 I mean, I had great-grandpas and people who went and killed people.

01:26:16.000 I mean, you know, you cheat them, they're just going to kill you, and then nothing's really done about it.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, it didn't happen very often, because that was the consequence.

01:26:22.000 I know that in the pioneer days, when just about everybody had a six-shooter strapped to their hip, there was very little crime.

01:26:30.000 Obviously.

01:26:30.000 Now, contrary to what you see in the Western movies... Well, here's an example.

01:26:33.000 Let's say you rob somebody's cotton shipment being taken down by wagons.

01:26:37.000 This is, you know, my great-great-great-grandpa Johnson. 0.97

01:26:40.000 You know, if somebody did rob the people bringing that down, they would spend whatever it took to track them down and kill them.

01:26:47.000 And so it's just people took things seriously, and the police used to... Look, we used to have 300,000 cops 15 years ago.

01:26:53.000 If your house got robbed, they'd come out.

01:26:54.000 Now we have 2 million, they won't come out to your house.

01:26:56.000 We're going to continue during this break on the InfoWars streams.

01:26:59.000 Come over to InfoWars, listen right now.

01:27:02.000 Well, what can I say?

01:27:04.000 John, go ahead and cut that feed for me, okay?

01:27:06.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:27:07.000 I'm not advocating that people track down some criminal.

01:27:10.000 No, no, I'm not saying that.

01:27:11.000 I'm saying that used to there wasn't as much crime because people knew that not just the police, the citizens were going to come after you.

01:27:19.000 Yeah, there were posse's.

01:27:20.000 And I'm not all in favor of the lynch mob, but I do think that posse had a role to play in capturing a criminal and bringing them to justice where they could then But again, that shows when the people were the police.

01:27:34.000 It wasn't the government and the people hating each other.

01:27:37.000 No, the people were the police.

01:27:38.000 Anytime the government tries to separate that, that's tyranny. 0.64

01:27:41.000 And of course that's what we have today.

01:27:43.000 They want the people to think that the police are a separate entity, and actually I think they instill that in the minds of the police more than they do the people.

01:27:52.000 I've talked to some policemen recently and they said, you know, it's true.

01:27:55.000 We are sort of getting the impression that we are the elitists.

01:27:59.000 You know, if we get stopped for speeding, we can flash our badge and we get special treatment.

01:28:04.000 That just came out in the California paper that 996,000 are above the law.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, they said it's nice to know that you belong to a little inside group that, you know, you get special privileges.

01:28:16.000 Well, now, I think this guy just described the whole purpose of being part of government.

01:28:20.000 They have special privileges.

01:28:21.000 They don't have to obey.

01:28:22.000 They get waved through.

01:28:23.000 They get waved through.

01:28:24.000 They get special consideration.

01:28:26.000 They commit crimes and never be brought to justice.

01:28:29.000 So, it's a problem.

01:28:30.000 And then that destroys societies, because then it gets more and more corrupt, to where why should anybody have a business?

01:28:34.000 The cops are just going to take it, and then you're like Mexico. 0.91

01:28:37.000 So what we've really got here is that there are certain mentalities that gravitate into organized crime and government. 0.96

01:28:44.000 Psychopaths!

01:28:45.000 And when you think about it, in today's world, there's not an awful lot of difference between organized crime and government, except that government is more organized.

01:28:54.000 It's the same mentality that gravitates into those jobs.

01:28:54.000 Absolutely.

01:28:57.000 Now that doesn't mean that there aren't well-intentioned people, and I know people that go into government work because they really want to serve society.

01:29:07.000 And I think of people that used to go into the IRS because they thought they were...

01:29:11.000 Well, that actually I found is one of the evil's greatest powers, is they have all these minions who are compartmentalized, carrying out evil, believing they're part of something good.

01:29:20.000 They believe they're part of something good, yes.

01:29:22.000 And you mentioned this earlier, Alex, you said that something that starts out good, takes on a different form as it matures.

01:29:30.000 And people become part of something, and the mechanism itself becomes more important than the reason for the mechanism.

01:29:37.000 In other words, the government agency, the government machine, the force of government, the organization itself becomes a reason rather than the original reason, which was to protect the people.

01:29:48.000 That's gone, and just the structure remains, and it serves itself.

01:29:54.000 And the social architects know what they're doing.

01:29:57.000 We're going live right now.

01:29:58.000 Here we go.

01:30:01.000 Okay, John.

01:30:01.000 Look, I said I'd take calls.

01:30:10.000 And And I haven't.

01:30:14.000 And I'm not going to have time to.

01:30:15.000 We're going to go about five minutes into the next hour, but I have a meeting I have to be at at ten after, so we can't go too much overdrive.

01:30:15.000 I'm sorry, everybody.

01:30:21.000 G. Edward Griffin is going to be speaking tonight at the University of Texas.

01:30:28.000 And that is in the Jester Dormitory.

01:30:31.000 It's a large area of large classrooms that hold like 400 people apiece.

01:30:34.000 They may even be in one of the bigger ones.

01:30:37.000 You can go to PNAC Citizen or go to BraveNewBooks.com.

01:30:41.000 They have a link over there where you can find it all for yourself as well.

01:30:46.000 And Jim McGriffin, I'm really impressed with this interview today.

01:30:49.000 It's really gone well being face-to-face with you.

01:30:52.000 I want to, in the next few months, have you back on for maybe two or three hours to really get into solutions and Freedom Force International and the types of moral power we can take on to tear down their major structures and then, as I said, a much more limited government to guard against that because the pure anarchists don't understand.

01:31:07.000 In even bands of five, six nomadic humans, you're going to have a leader.

01:31:11.000 And so you're always going to have centralization.

01:31:13.000 Anarchy only goes on for about five hours.

01:31:15.000 And then Law of the Jungle comes in.

01:31:17.000 We need the good people, as Thomas Jefferson said, we need to band together for limited government as a bulwark against the state and against organized crime.

01:31:25.000 And I want to get more of your comments on that.

01:31:27.000 Well, boy, you go over so many things so fast, Alex, I can hardly keep track.

01:31:32.000 All I can remember is the last thing you said, which is so true. 0.99

01:31:36.000 Anarchy doesn't last.

01:31:37.000 You said five hours?

01:31:38.000 Okay, I would say five days, but what difference does that make?

01:31:43.000 In conditions of anarchy, always the guy with the biggest muscle, the biggest fist, or the biggest weapon winds up dominating.

01:31:52.000 King Rad.

01:31:53.000 King Rad, yeah.

01:31:54.000 And so, when you talk about this political spectrum, supposedly between total government on one end and zero government on the other, and you talk about the gradients in between, what you're really talking about is if you take the ends of this and bend them up,

01:32:09.000 And you make a circle out of it, so that instead of a straight line, you've bent that straight line up, and now it's a circle, and you see that the end of the line that represents zero government is now touching the other end of the line that represents total government, and that is what you're talking about, because under conditions of anarchy, in an instant you step over that line, and you are subject completely to the totalitarian dictatorship of the person with the biggest fist or the biggest weapon.

01:32:36.000 And then it's escape from New York, he's the Duke, he's A number one.

01:32:40.000 I mean it just happens like that and that's what these... But you know when you really watch these mainline anarchist groups, I don't mean their followers, it's all foundation funded, they hire them, Limbaugh's called for riots in Denver, so is Recreate, you know, 68, Subgribs.

01:32:55.000 Again, they want to bring... and you find out a lot of these anarchists claim they're anarchists, but then they'll tell you they're communists.

01:33:01.000 And so that's really the new cover for them.

01:33:03.000 Yes.

01:33:04.000 Well, they're Marxists-Leninists because they're remembering that old line about Marx, that the state will wither away.

01:33:10.000 They actually believe that.

01:33:12.000 That under conditions of mature socialism, Marx taught, well then, mankind will have been reconditioned and retrained, and all these evil characteristics have been weeded out, and now we can live in perfect harmony with each other.

01:33:25.000 It's ten times worse.

01:33:26.000 Much worse, because there's always this leadership group.

01:33:31.000 They call it the Communist Party, or the Vanguard, or the Proletarian.

01:33:34.000 There's always a leader for that.

01:33:35.000 The Central Committee.

01:33:36.000 The Central Committee.

01:33:38.000 But the utopia's never working because of the evil group that still has freedom across the road.

01:33:43.000 That's right.

01:33:44.000 They always have to have an enemy.

01:33:45.000 So I think they're drawing this from the idea that the state somehow will wither away and then people will live in peace without any government regulation of any kind.

01:33:53.000 And it's a myth.

01:33:54.000 It's totally contrary to human nature.

01:33:58.000 Actually, we are going to now go into six, seven minutes of overdrive.

01:34:02.000 I know I have an important call coming in, too, so we'll line that up outside.

01:34:06.000 G. Edward Griffin is our guest.

01:34:07.000 We'll say bye to the Genesis audience now.

01:34:10.000 He'll be speaking UT campus, 8 p.m.

01:34:12.000 to 945 p.m.

01:34:13.000 Jester dorm room, A121A.

01:34:15.000 We'll go to PNAC It's pnacitizen.org or freedom-force.org.

01:34:24.000 Tonight, UT, 8 p.m.

01:34:26.000 to 945 p.m.

01:34:28.000 I'm out of time.

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01:34:33.000 God bless you all.

01:34:34.000 We now go into overdrive on the internet streams at InfoWars.com.

01:34:39.000 Gotta go there to hear the last eight minutes at InfoWars.com.

01:34:42.000 Thank you, John.

01:34:43.000 Thank you for listening to GTV.

01:34:44.000 Take care, Jones.

01:34:45.000 Appreciate it, bro.

01:34:46.000 Anytime.

01:34:47.000 Thank you, my friend.

01:34:48.000 Okay, in closing here, at the end, I am just going to give you six, seven minutes, sir.

01:34:55.000 We've got about, probably, you know, ten thousand people on the web that are listening, and the Prison Planet TV members that are watching the letters we put on YouTube and Google.

01:35:03.000 Just other key points about Freedom Force International, and then a few minutes, if you can, on the election, where that's going.

01:35:10.000 uh... what's happening right now uh... with that and i mean we talk to break the total fiction but how important is to point out that it's a fiction Yeah, I'd like to flip those, if I may, and talk about how I went first.

01:35:21.000 Sure, sure.

01:35:22.000 That'll be somewhat my topic tonight at the University.

01:35:26.000 And when I called the speech the Quigley Formula, I'm referring, of course, to Professor Carol Quigley, who wrote the book Tragedy and Hope, and who was President Clinton's mentor when he was a student at Georgetown University.

01:35:41.000 The significant thing about Uh, about Quigley, is that he was a collectivist, he was a historian for a secret society created by Cecil Rhodes that evolved over the years, still exists today, and in the United States its presence is known as the Council on Foreign Relations.

01:36:00.000 I'm sure your audience is well aware of the Council on Foreign Relations and the fact that this small group, relatively small group of people, around 4,000 altogether, are actually the hidden rulers of the United States.

01:36:12.000 So here's a guy, Quigley, who was the historian of this group, a very respected and prestigious professor at Georgetown University, and in his book he raises the question, he says, how is it possible For us to have total control over the population, for their own good, obviously.

01:36:32.000 It's always the collectivist theme.

01:36:34.000 And yet, let them think that they are participating in their own political destiny.

01:36:38.000 Because they need that, and now that's what the futurists and people like Bill Joyce say, is they say, will the elite even let us survive and give us kind of a false political subsystem while they have the advanced technologies and the real civilization?

01:36:51.000 Or will they just get rid of us?

01:36:53.000 Go ahead.

01:36:54.000 No, they're not going to get rid of us because they want us in servitude.

01:36:58.000 So that's the very issue he raises.

01:36:59.000 They need the power trip.

01:37:00.000 Well, they need the power trip, but they need the servants.

01:37:02.000 They need the people to run the machine.

01:37:04.000 Well, they need the people left to torture, too.

01:37:06.000 Yes, well... Because they're powerful, they've got to...

01:37:09.000 That's true.

01:37:10.000 Well, Quigley doesn't go into that, but he does deal with it.

01:37:12.000 I've read Tragedy in Hope and Anglo-American Establishment. 0.56

01:37:14.000 Well, then you know the story.

01:37:15.000 For those that don't, go ahead.

01:37:17.000 And basically he says, how do we do this?

01:37:18.000 And he says, the answer is simple.

01:37:20.000 He said, we form two major political parties, we run them both from behind the scenes, and we let them fight each other over minor issues, so long as the electorate has to choose only between those two, then it makes no difference which one wins.

01:37:34.000 We always remain in firm control of the political system.

01:37:37.000 That's what I'll be talking about tonight, because I think people need to know that the elections that are coming upon us here, and all of this fierce debate between an Obama and a Clinton, and I can't even think of a Republican's name.

01:37:53.000 Lord McCain!

01:37:54.000 Lord McCain! 0.91

01:37:55.000 Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb! 0.99

01:37:56.000 Bomb McCain, yeah. 0.58

01:37:58.000 It's all part of this very show that Quigley was talking about.

01:38:03.000 And until Americans realize that the political parties, Republicans and Democrats, are merely two different branches of the same political party, they're never going to figure out what a solution to this problem is.

01:38:16.000 They'll just be bounced back.

01:38:17.000 We've got to shatter the left-right paradigm.

01:38:19.000 I mean, listen to the corporate line.

01:38:21.000 They're really trying to get everybody back into that.

01:38:23.000 They say that's why they like Obama.

01:38:24.000 They say, we want to bring everybody back together.

01:38:26.000 They mean bring the people back into the theater.

01:38:29.000 Bring them back into the false paradigm.

01:38:31.000 Bring them back into the simulation.

01:38:32.000 It's key to fully shatter that so that they know those are false choices.

01:38:37.000 That's it, exactly.

01:38:37.000 That's right.

01:38:38.000 It's a false paradigm.

01:38:40.000 And yet, still, I would say 90% of the American people are falling for it.

01:38:44.000 They like to align themselves either with, oh, he's a left-winger, or he's a right-winger.

01:38:48.000 Well, I mean, it's what everybody's talking about at the water cooler, and these things suck you into these false debates.

01:38:53.000 Yeah.

01:38:53.000 And it's really the left and the right wing of the same ugly bird, and that's collectivism.

01:38:58.000 And that's my main theme.

01:39:00.000 I'll use that as a jumping place to get to the solution.

01:39:03.000 Back to the solution.

01:39:04.000 Listen, before you go, please go meet with Trey in the back and let me set you up for like two more hours because stuff's moving fast in the next couple weeks over phone.

01:39:13.000 You're out in California, right?

01:39:15.000 Right.

01:39:16.000 I'll have you on for a few hours to really get more into solutions with everybody.

01:39:20.000 I'd love that, yeah.

01:39:21.000 Yeah.

01:39:21.000 And Freedom Force International, what are some of the other bedrock ideas?

01:39:26.000 Well, the bedrock idea is to get clear on a creed.

01:39:28.000 What do we believe in?

01:39:29.000 You know, history is so full of examples where people have risen up, and at great cost in treasure and blood, they've oversold.

01:39:36.000 And some new evil takes over.

01:39:38.000 Joe, I'm just the same, or worse.

01:39:40.000 And the reason for that is that it's easy for people to get focused on what they hate.

01:39:44.000 They don't like this.

01:39:45.000 They don't like that.

01:39:46.000 Oh, we don't like this guy.

01:39:47.000 Not just what we hate, but what we like.

01:39:49.000 But they don't know what they like.

01:39:51.000 Well, what they think they like.

01:39:52.000 I know what I like.

01:39:53.000 Well, these people that I'm talking about have no idea what they like.

01:39:56.000 They like him because he's a Republican or a Democrat, or because he's got nice teeth, or because they like his wife, or something like that.

01:40:03.000 They have no concept of political ideology.

01:40:06.000 I don't think the public realizes, they're starting to realize how life and death, how dangerous it is for your economy, for your checkbook, for your family, for your health.

01:40:13.000 Yeah.

01:40:13.000 To let a bunch of wild control freaks be in control.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, all they care about is, is he sincere?

01:40:18.000 Oh, I like his sincerity.

01:40:19.000 I like what he's saying.

01:40:20.000 Now, let's be clear.

01:40:21.000 Those are puppets. 0.91

01:40:23.000 And that's what they hate.

01:40:24.000 They love being called evil or love being called good, as long as they're the boss.

01:40:27.000 But when you point out that a bunch of special interests with a scientific dictatorship are just using these as front dummies, They really hate being called puppets.

01:40:36.000 Oh, they don't like that at all.

01:40:37.000 In fact, I think some of them don't even realize it, or don't want to realize it.

01:40:41.000 They know, they know, but they don't like to think about it.

01:40:44.000 They like to... I think that... Well, that's the thing.

01:40:45.000 I mean, I like meeting with fellow patriots, and I like going out, but it kind of gets tiring because I'm busy and I'm not that ego-driven.

01:40:52.000 I'm more idea-driven.

01:40:53.000 That's what I'm excited into.

01:40:56.000 And, you know, liberty and freedom, but I'd rather be out gardening or out fishing or just away from people or with my family.

01:41:01.000 I go to events, shake hands, but I don't go to a lot of events because, frankly, I don't overall like it.

01:41:07.000 It's kind of embarrassing and being worshipped and loved, which is great.

01:41:11.000 It's a communing.

01:41:12.000 But when I see these globalists who will go to all these events and shake all these hands and do this, and I've met them and I've talked to them and I've read their...

01:41:20.000 Well, I love fancy hats and medals and medallions.

01:41:25.000 I think they're lesser men, but men who are greater than them intellectually and everything else, we, and I'm not tooting my horn, but compared to them we are heads above, we don't like all that.

01:41:35.000 But it's a responsibility.

01:41:37.000 It's work for us.

01:41:38.000 If we're going to live in peace, we have to, as you said, be in power and defeat these people.

01:41:42.000 It's either they're going to beat us, or we're going to beat them.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:41:46.000 And I think that the time has come for people to realize this is an either-or situation.

01:41:52.000 So, anyway, back to my theme.

01:41:54.000 It's very simple, you see, what can we do?

01:41:56.000 First thing, we better be clear on what we believe in, not just what we're against.

01:42:00.000 And that's where the importance comes in of the creed of freedom.

01:42:03.000 And I urge people to come to our website and spend a little time.

01:42:06.000 It's www.

01:42:08.000 Freedom-force.org.

01:42:12.000 Org stands for organization.

01:42:14.000 And flip over to the section that says Creed.

01:42:16.000 And spend a little time reading it.

01:42:18.000 And that is our statement of goals.

01:42:21.000 That's our statement of principle.

01:42:22.000 That's the glue that holds our members together in 58 countries right now.

01:42:27.000 It's the basis for our international brotherhood, Alex.

01:42:31.000 Once we're in agreement on that, then we cannot be divided by nationality, by culture, by religion, by race, by economic status, by gender.

01:42:43.000 All of these things become immaterial.

01:42:46.000 We become a true international brotherhood.

01:42:49.000 There's never been anything quite like it, so far, of which I'm aware.

01:42:53.000 We need a counter guild of people that are invested in liberty, and we need to work with each other in business, and network, and not just in political, but in business, and we need to have symbols, and we need to traffic with each other.

01:43:06.000 And we have a lot more power than the collectivists.

01:43:09.000 This is a voluntary association.

01:43:12.000 Exactly.

01:43:13.000 And that's the whole thing.

01:43:14.000 And that loose will, that paradigm, that frequency, that signature, is much more powerful than the enemy.

01:43:21.000 Yes, and as long as we agree on what it is we believe in.

01:43:25.000 That's been the missing ingredient.

01:43:27.000 We're all for freedom.

01:43:28.000 I believe in family, the second amendment, free market, national sovereignty, free will.

01:43:34.000 I do not believe in the CPS, corrupt police, wickedness, corrupt judges, all this.

01:43:39.000 They have to be brought to justice.

01:43:41.000 I think that's also important.

01:43:41.000 Well, I invite anybody who's interested in this theme, and I know all of your listeners are, to come to this site and read the Creed of Freedom and give it some thought, and then you'll see exactly what it is that unites us.

01:43:53.000 And I think what you're doing is the answer, but I think also, even if people don't even join your group, I think they should, but if there's other leaders out there, who maybe a 20-year-old watching right now is going to end up, you know, being the leader, I'm not saying just one leader will do it, but maybe the straw that breaks the camel's back won't We may get executed, killed, maybe 200 years from now you're watching this, you know, in some illegal transmission, you know, that sits into your bubble chip in your head.

01:44:14.000 I mean, maybe you're out there watching right now.

01:44:16.000 You need to understand that take these ideas, change it, modernize it, whatever you do, just know that humanity, the species, needs to go on and be free and not have these control freaks destroy what we are.

01:44:27.000 G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, freedom-force.org, speaking at UT tonight.

01:44:33.000 It's been great having you.

01:44:34.000 Look forward to talking to you.

01:44:35.000 Thank you so much, my friend.

01:44:37.000 Good to meet you after all this time.

01:44:38.000 God bless you.

01:44:39.000 Folks, that's it for this transmission.

01:44:40.000 I want to thank you all for tuning in.

01:44:43.000 And I do, again, hope that you will go to the University of Texas tonight.

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01:45:14.000 We now will go back into our retransmission from the first and second hour of the show.

01:45:19.000 If you're listening on the web, we re-looped that.

01:45:21.000 Luke Rodowski got Jimmy Carter to say there should be a new 9-11 investigation.

01:45:25.000 Gary Hart saying, yeah, he's afraid the U.S.

01:45:27.000 will stage terror attacks.

01:45:29.000 Also how they're trying to set up people.

01:45:30.000 David Frum, the neocon, attacking We Are Change L.A., being caught on video.

01:45:36.000 Thank God they would have set us up.

01:45:38.000 There is so much more that is going on that we're going to be covering, so please tune back in to that retransmission now.

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Alex Jones Show - April 29, 2008

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