Alex Jones Show - 20080502_Fri_Alex

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00:00:01.000 We're going to be covering a host of issues this hour, a little bit into the next hour, with Tex Mars and Michael Hoffman, historian, former AP writer, who's going to be with us for two hours.

00:00:26.000 We're going to go into overdrive today with Mr. Hoffman, because I'm going to have Tex a little bit into the next hour, and then I'm going to spend a few minutes with the latest developments on the Deborah Jean Palfrey case.

00:00:36.000 But Tex Mars is here to talk about a host of issues, multi-time New York Times best-selling author, Air Force officer, Of course, space and aeronautics professor.

00:00:47.000 He married my wife and I. And Wanda, his wife, is such a sweetheart and good family friends.

00:00:54.000 Time flies, though.

00:00:55.000 We used to have dinner every once in a while.

00:00:57.000 Now we're so busy, we hardly ever see each other.

00:00:59.000 We've got to make time to do that, but I really appreciate Tex Mars coming in the studio.

00:01:04.000 Hey Alex, great to be with you again.

00:01:06.000 You know, since I saw you last, it seems like The elite have ratcheted up their efforts at control of the people.

00:01:15.000 And I'm so amazed at their ability to do that.

00:01:19.000 And yet I believe it's because of the psychological control.

00:01:22.000 I actually call it a magic type of alchemy.

00:01:27.000 And I'm also delighted to see your organization here.

00:01:31.000 Because you have people here that really care.

00:01:33.000 And I want to say something before we begin.

00:01:36.000 I want to mention that I knew you Before you were nationwide.

00:01:40.000 And I'll never forget the first time I saw you on television, cable access.

00:01:44.000 Now, I want people to understand something, Alex.

00:01:47.000 You volunteered to go down to Austin Cable Access.

00:01:50.000 You became the number one program on Austin Cable Access, which was very well watched, I might add.

00:01:56.000 I watched you for the first time.

00:01:57.000 A friend mentioned this Alex Jones.

00:01:59.000 You weren't getting paid a cent for this.

00:02:02.000 You weren't in it for the money.

00:02:03.000 If anybody believes that, that's nonsense.

00:02:05.000 I saw you.

00:02:06.000 Wanda was sitting by me.

00:02:07.000 And I said, do you know why that man is going to succeed in riling up The establishment.

00:02:13.000 He's exposing the evil doing in this world.

00:02:16.000 And I'll tell you why he's going to succeed.

00:02:18.000 I've mentioned this to you before, but I want the audience to know.

00:02:20.000 Three words, okay?

00:02:23.000 Three words.

00:02:25.000 A passion for truth.

00:02:27.000 I guess that's four if you count the eight.

00:02:30.000 Passion for truth.

00:02:31.000 I saw that in you.

00:02:32.000 Of course, there are other things.

00:02:34.000 Intelligence.

00:02:34.000 The fact that you're willing to dig in, to find out the information, the truth.

00:02:40.000 And you're able to articulate it.

00:02:42.000 But more than anything, the passion for truth.

00:02:44.000 That has not left you.

00:02:45.000 I'll tell you, I've watched, I've seen every one of your videos.

00:02:49.000 I saw your book.

00:02:50.000 Textures are nice.

00:02:50.000 Most of the time I can't even watch my own.

00:02:53.000 You know, and when you do that, though, you're going to have enemies.

00:02:56.000 Oh, I've got plenty.

00:02:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:02:58.000 Because passion for truth drives up those who want to reject the truth, who want to avoid it.

00:03:04.000 So I thought I'd just add that.

00:03:06.000 Well, Tex, let me just, I mean, please don't make it about me.

00:03:09.000 I'm just an average person who's upset about what's happening, and I'm pretty obnoxious, but I've gotten a little bit better over time.

00:03:13.000 But I have to add, You know, I learned more from Tex Mars than anybody else.

00:03:17.000 I remember seeing people air your documentaries, your presentations, in like 1992-93 on Axis Television when you were just exposing the Clintons and the New World Order, and just starting to write books about that subject.

00:03:30.000 And then Oklahoma City happened, and I saw you talking about that in 95, and that's right when I got on air.

00:03:38.000 And of course, think how many people You've also woken up other than me, and think of all the other people I've woken up and all our listeners have woken up.

00:03:45.000 That's what's so beautiful about this, but as you said, evil...

00:03:49.000 Katie Bar The Door realizes we're breaking in on them, so they're throwing everything they've got right now.

00:03:54.000 I mean, just overall, the whole round.

00:03:56.000 They have no shame.

00:03:58.000 And now they have no fear of the people.

00:04:00.000 The only ones they fear are the listeners of the Alex Jones Show.

00:04:05.000 The very few.

00:04:06.000 Because your listeners also, and I get emails from them all the time, they too have a passion for truth.

00:04:12.000 Alex, one of the things I would really like to hit today, the main subject.

00:04:16.000 Is something that is so amazing that's going on.

00:04:20.000 I believe they've gone a little bit beyond the police state.

00:04:24.000 The police state is the umbrella.

00:04:26.000 The taking away of our constitutional rights, of course.

00:04:29.000 And the Bill of Rights, the stripping of those rights.

00:04:33.000 But now, they're creating, and I want the people to understand this, it is so important, The elite are creating a new reality.

00:04:44.000 A new reality.

00:04:46.000 This is a psychological battering of the public.

00:04:49.000 Now, we've already had, of course, 9-11 and the terrorist scare, the fear-mongering.

00:04:56.000 But, and this gets to people's basic needs of survival, of security, of safety.

00:05:02.000 And they're using this against us.

00:05:04.000 But wait, now they're ratcheting it up.

00:05:08.000 Not only are they causing engendering, instilling fear for our security, our safety, but now, food.

00:05:17.000 Water.

00:05:18.000 Oil, which is the wellspring of our entire economy.

00:05:21.000 These three resources, oil, water, food, they have decided to batter us into submission through these three key resources.

00:05:34.000 Oil is everything for the economy.

00:05:37.000 It means everything for people's pocketbooks.

00:05:40.000 It means impoverishment, as the price of oil escalates and goes skyward.

00:05:45.000 Then there's food.

00:05:46.000 If people can't eat, they can do nothing.

00:05:49.000 You'll remember Abraham Maslow, back in the 60s, developed this concept, which is true, it's been confirmed over and over.

00:05:56.000 When people are worried, concerned, frightened over their basic needs.

00:06:00.000 I'm talking about food.

00:06:02.000 I'm talking about water.

00:06:04.000 Okay?

00:06:05.000 And their ability to live a decent lifestyle.

00:06:08.000 Okay?

00:06:09.000 Shelter and so forth.

00:06:10.000 When those needs are not met, they don't worry about abstract things like liberty and freedom.

00:06:16.000 They do whatever the establishment says, if they've been domesticated, so they can quote, get that standard back.

00:06:23.000 What they don't know is, this is the same elite that has engineered all this.

00:06:26.000 And what you're saying, Tex, and I want to see you flesh this out because you wrote a book about it years ago.

00:06:31.000 It's what the United Nations said they do in the sixties in the Club of Rome, and now they've just republished, the head of the CFR, Richard Inhofe's quote, I've been reading a lot on air, I'm sure you've seen it, where he says, we're going to have a twin rail, this is in 93, he said we're going to have terrorism, which we threaten them with to give up their rights, but then we're also going to have the global carbon tax in the name of saving the earth to regulate and bring in neo-feudalism, and he said, this is a quote, This makes humanity the enemy, and then we can direct the state against the enemy.

00:07:01.000 Now that's a key.

00:07:02.000 That's a key.

00:07:03.000 Humanity is the enemy.

00:07:04.000 You see, here's the new reality.

00:07:07.000 It's a contrived hoax.

00:07:08.000 Just as 9-11 was.

00:07:10.000 Just as the Oklahoma City bombing was.

00:07:12.000 Just as Al-Qaeda is a contrived hoax.

00:07:15.000 Now we have a contrived hoax of resources.

00:07:18.000 It's artificial scarcity.

00:07:20.000 Absolutely.

00:07:21.000 The lie is we're going into, now listen to this, an age of scarcity.

00:07:26.000 And because of that, we all have to be good soldiers and agree to share with the rest of the world.

00:07:33.000 We have to share our water, we have to share our food, and we have to also... But we're not going to share with the people.

00:07:41.000 There's a middle man called the New World Order. 0.95

00:07:44.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:07:45.000 Well, they're getting enriched by all this.

00:07:47.000 And if the price of gasoline at the pump goes to $10 a gallon, quit your bellyaching, man!

00:07:52.000 I mean, we're doing you a favor, even letting you drive a car!

00:07:55.000 I mean, we're helping you!

00:07:59.000 You don't really deserve this.

00:08:01.000 I mean, there's a scarcity of oil.

00:08:02.000 And it's because of peak oil.

00:08:04.000 And then they can also blame Alaska and point at a few hippies they finance as NGOs, when we've had all the oil company executives on more oil than Saudi Arabia, and the government isn't going to let it out of the ground.

00:08:14.000 Oh, but hippies are stopping them from getting it. 1.00

00:08:17.000 Well, yeah, we haven't had a, for example, in the oil area, we haven't had a new refinery built.

00:08:21.000 Since the 1970s.

00:08:23.000 They blame it on the environmental movement, but wait!

00:08:26.000 Who actually funded, who actually founded and sponsor, today, these environmental organizations?

00:08:33.000 Shell companies.

00:08:34.000 Sierra.

00:08:35.000 Nature Conservancy.

00:08:36.000 Sure, the massive Most of their money doesn't come from the unwashed hippies.

00:08:39.000 Rockefeller's founded it.

00:08:40.000 Absolutely.

00:08:41.000 And we got the old company documents in 2001, Associated Press did, where they said in 95, in a consortium meeting, the Big Ten, they said, Exxon, Mobil, all of them, before they merged, they said, we're going to buy up these 214 refineries and shut them down to create an artificial bottleneck.

00:08:56.000 Yeah, these are artificial hoaxes.

00:08:59.000 Now, then they have the media to control this.

00:09:01.000 And then comes the idea of peak oil.

00:09:03.000 Now, you know I come from East Texas.

00:09:05.000 My brother was a high-level executive in Sun Oil Company.

00:09:09.000 And he used to sit around with me.

00:09:11.000 We used to talk about this.

00:09:12.000 Listen, back in Port Natchez, Texas... So was my grandmother's dad.

00:09:15.000 Is that right?

00:09:15.000 Yeah, my great-grandpa worked for Sun Oil.

00:09:17.000 And back in the 70s, you know, when we had the first big energy crisis with Nixon in office, and there were lines at the gas pump, the service stations, miles long.

00:09:27.000 My brother was just shocked about this, because remember he was with Sun Oil, he was able to see the figures of what their inventories were.

00:09:33.000 He says, the United States is brimming with oil.

00:09:36.000 There's no cutoff from the Middle East, brimming with oil.

00:09:39.000 And the tankers continued to come in, but it wasn't being refined, because they had decided it's time to drive up the price.

00:09:47.000 Now we know that Kissinger agreed with the Shah of Iran and others to allow the price of oil to escalate.

00:09:53.000 That's now public.

00:09:53.000 And now we're seeing the same thing now.

00:09:56.000 Called the conspiracy theory in the seventies.

00:09:58.000 Yeah.

00:09:59.000 And here's an interesting thing too.

00:10:01.000 Even at this time, thirty years ago, my brother told me something interesting.

00:10:05.000 He said the oil fields, the oil wells that we first drilled and thought we'd brought all the oil out of the ground from, And then we capped them, you know, they put all the concrete and closed them back up.

00:10:16.000 We're going, it's Sun Oil, I'm sure this is true of every oil company, we're going back now 20-30 years later, uncapping them, and guess what?

00:10:24.000 We find they're full of oil again!

00:10:25.000 It just comes back.

00:10:27.000 It replenishes, it percolates up from the earth, there's processes going on under earth.

00:10:30.000 And there's hundreds of top universities approving that it is not dead dinosaurs.

00:10:35.000 No, no, that's silly.

00:10:36.000 Fossils. 0.97

00:10:36.000 Again, again, more fraud. 0.97

00:10:38.000 Fossil oil. 0.95

00:10:39.000 Yeah, that's sort of silly stuff.

00:10:40.000 I think this all came about at the turn of the century.

00:10:44.000 You know, Rockefeller, with the Standard Oil Company, had a monopoly that was broken up, supposedly, by the U.S.

00:10:51.000 Supreme Court.

00:10:51.000 But 1906, and it was just in the news the other day, they came back and they admitted the family owns the company, and they're about to fire Rex Tillerson because he won't go along with global warming.

00:11:00.000 Well, of course, global warming is another scam that they have.

00:11:03.000 Now, back to this fossil fuel, so-called.

00:11:08.000 You know, the very idea of it.

00:11:09.000 Hey, oil is dead dinosaurs that have decomposed in the earth.

00:11:13.000 That's our oil.

00:11:14.000 When you run out of dead dinosaurs, you run out of oil.

00:11:17.000 That's the claim. 0.93

00:11:17.000 It's so silly, people don't really think about it. 0.93

00:11:20.000 Here's where this came up. 0.76

00:11:21.000 Around the Los Angeles area, they had the oil tar pits.

00:11:25.000 And of course, being gooey and sticky, there were a certain number of animals, even back in prehistoric times, that got into the oil tar pit and guess what?

00:11:33.000 They couldn't get out and they died there.

00:11:35.000 They found their remains.

00:11:36.000 This caused many people to say, hey, that must be where the oil came from.

00:11:39.000 Exactly.

00:11:40.000 Uneducated people.

00:11:41.000 Stay there.

00:11:42.000 Text MARS.

00:11:42.000 We're going to be right back after break for presentplanet.tv viewers.

00:11:46.000 We're going to have some behind the scenes right now.

00:11:50.000 Tex, we've got four minutes in this break and I don't want to waste any of this time.

00:11:52.000 Let's come back to the Tar Pits on the other side with folks. 0.97

00:11:55.000 But this will be on the web and is on the web right now live, but archived on the web forever.

00:12:00.000 Before we go any further, on other subjects, what do you think about Deborah Jean Palfrey? 0.74

00:12:05.000 You know, we interviewed her.

00:12:06.000 Okay.

00:12:06.000 She said, I'll never commit suicide.

00:12:08.000 If they say I do, it's not true.

00:12:10.000 Then they have this weird government debunker who comes out and says JFK, RFK, the official story's true.

00:12:16.000 Vince Foster wasn't suicided.

00:12:17.000 He says she just called him up and said, I'm going to kill myself.

00:12:22.000 No tape!

00:12:23.000 We have a tape from a month and a half ago.

00:12:24.000 It wasn't Posner, was it?

00:12:26.000 No, no, it's another one of them.

00:12:27.000 Another one.

00:12:27.000 Okay.

00:12:28.000 Alright.

00:12:28.000 I haven't heard this morning's news.

00:12:31.000 But quite obvious, the gal is a very confident person. 0.75

00:12:34.000 She may have spent a little prison time, or may have had to, but she wasn't going to kill herself.

00:12:38.000 You can look at the person and see the personality type does not kill themselves.

00:12:41.000 Tough as nails.

00:12:42.000 Tough as nails.

00:12:43.000 Absolutely.

00:12:45.000 Here's a gal that ran a pretty shrewd operation. 1.00

00:12:48.000 I'm not talking about the morality of it, I'm talking about the organizational skills and management.

00:12:52.000 No.

00:12:53.000 No, so, yeah, we can talk about that.

00:12:55.000 There's no way she killed herself.

00:12:57.000 Well, let's spend a few minutes on that right now.

00:12:58.000 What's your take on it?

00:13:00.000 Are we on air?

00:13:01.000 Yeah, well, see what I do is I do the main radio show, and now because we're doing this as a webcast, we just go into overdrive here.

00:13:06.000 Oh, wonderful, wonderful.

00:13:07.000 I like it even more.

00:13:08.000 Okay.

00:13:09.000 Well, my take on this is, frankly, that there were names.

00:13:12.000 You remember that the court ordered those names to be sealed.

00:13:16.000 But here's a gal who once went on to prison, and I'm sure her lawyer says shut up now, but once she did her little prison term of six months or nine months or whatever, she was denuded of her money, right? 0.77

00:13:29.000 She needs to make money. 1.00

00:13:29.000 She's going to write a tell-all book. 1.00

00:13:34.000 She was planning a book.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, and maybe do a little prison time.

00:13:37.000 Once she gets out, she gets a ghostwriter, does a tell-all book, and she becomes a millionaire! 0.95

00:13:42.000 Why doesn't she want to kill herself? 1.00

00:13:43.000 She was in the business of prostitution to make money. 1.00

00:13:46.000 I didn't think of that.

00:13:48.000 She had a big future ahead of her.

00:13:50.000 I mean, I thought about him killing her for the book she was planning to do, which was admitted, but I didn't think of the fact that that's even more of a reason not to commit suicide.

00:13:59.000 Harper and Roe, Simon and Schuster are slobbering at the mouth to get this gal to write a book on this. 0.99

00:14:04.000 And of course, the bigwigs, the elite, and who knows the names, congressmen, senators?

00:14:08.000 Well, the M.O.

00:14:09.000 is it's Cheney and McCain. 0.99

00:14:13.000 They're perverted. 1.00

00:14:14.000 They're the few that actually like women. 1.00

00:14:16.000 We know it's mainly a...

00:14:18.000 I shouldn't say this, but even look at Cheney's wife, Lynne Cheney. 1.00

00:14:22.000 She wrote a lesbian sex novel. 1.00

00:14:23.000 Maybe she was being serviced by these prostitutes. 1.00

00:14:27.000 It might have been a family thing with the Cheneys. 0.99

00:14:29.000 Horrible there.

00:14:30.000 But the poor lady, you look at her, you know she's not the psychological type. 1.00

00:14:36.000 You know, I don't want to say I know everything about psychology, but I did teach abnormal psychology and adult psychology at University of Illinois.

00:14:42.000 Well, she told me she was never going to do it.

00:14:43.000 So I can tell.

00:14:44.000 She's no crazy person who's going to kill herself.

00:14:47.000 She may be an immoral person, but even more the reason why she was looking forward to enriching herself. 0.97

00:14:53.000 She had a gold mine here, just like the little gal did, that was exposed to the prostitute for Eliot Spitzer. 1.00

00:14:59.000 Well, then on top of it, we also have, how this all started, the Brittany Britton, which was this, getting her PhD, but she was also already a professor, and she magically hangs herself when she was facing six months in jail for a prostitution bust, but she shot her mouth off. 0.98

00:15:18.000 She said, this is hypocritical.

00:15:19.000 She said, I'm going to name names, boom, hangs herself, and then that's when they go bust her to bring her into the system and discredit her, her boss Palfrey. 1.00

00:15:26.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:15:27.000 And then now she hangs herself.

00:15:29.000 And this guy, a totally disreputable source in my opinion, says, oh, she called me.

00:15:34.000 She told me.

00:15:35.000 She was going to do it.

00:15:36.000 But we have the tape.

00:15:37.000 He doesn't.

00:15:38.000 Well, he doesn't have a tape, but even if he did, the ability to manufacture voice through voice synthesization is so incredible today.

00:15:46.000 Dan Moldea, and I mean, this guy pops up on everything.

00:15:50.000 Just everywhere.

00:15:51.000 Okay, we're going to go back on the network right now.

00:15:53.000 Here we go.

00:15:57.000 Welcome back, Genesis listeners.

00:16:00.000 Say hi to all the presentPlanet.tv viewers.

00:16:02.000 We have Tex Mars here in studio with us.

00:16:07.000 Going back into oil.

00:16:09.000 Shifting gears back into that.

00:16:11.000 Yeah, they came out with Now, what, 150 years ago when they first discovered oil and were looking at coal, there is some small deposits where you find the imprints of ferns.

00:16:21.000 There's very small amounts of coal that they found in association.

00:16:25.000 As you said, they found tar pits in Africa, the U.S. I've seen the history.

00:16:28.000 And they said, oh, the juice from these animals made this.

00:16:33.000 Of course, now they admit that La Brea tar pits was them getting caught up in it. 0.69

00:16:36.000 And, you know, animals dying in it.

00:16:39.000 So continue with this system.

00:16:42.000 Well, first of all, we need to understand something.

00:16:44.000 We need...

00:16:46.000 We're being attacked.

00:16:47.000 Our minds are being attacked.

00:16:49.000 We're being told to accept a new reality.

00:16:52.000 That we're going to have to accept being a third world impoverished nation.

00:16:56.000 That we're going to have to accept Food prices doubling, tripling.

00:17:00.000 We're going to have to accept the fact that our water is going to be controlled from now on.

00:17:04.000 And the price of that is going to go up dramatically.

00:17:07.000 This age of scarcity, this new reality, this is what we have to watch out for.

00:17:11.000 Now, how do we fight back?

00:17:14.000 First of all, we have to understand the truth, which is, for 200 years, America has been the land of plenty.

00:17:21.000 And we have plenty.

00:17:23.000 This planet is awash with oil.

00:17:26.000 Once we understand that, once we understand that water is incredible, most of the world's surface has water.

00:17:32.000 They're now saying water isn't renewable.

00:17:34.000 They're teaching school children that.

00:17:35.000 Well, and the reason why, let's go back to the water.

00:17:38.000 We'll go around and round up all these three key resources in the so-called age of scarcity.

00:17:43.000 Remember, billionaires like T. Boone Pickens from Oklahoma.

00:17:47.000 He has bought up the water rights in West Texas for about three states, underground the water rights.

00:17:53.000 He's going to build pipelines, just like oil pipelines.

00:17:56.000 And water is going to cost more than oil within a decade.

00:17:59.000 That's their plan.

00:18:01.000 The U.N.

00:18:01.000 has said it 30 years ago.

00:18:03.000 Again, a key point here for everybody to understand to totally back up what you're saying, Tex.

00:18:09.000 I remember not just reading Club of Rome documents and all of this, because they go back 40 years, 30 years before they had met all of this.

00:18:15.000 I remember on NPR and on PBS shows and Charlie Rose, they would say, the New World Order will be built on shortage.

00:18:22.000 You know, when you have Kissinger on.

00:18:23.000 We've built on oil, water, timber, everything.

00:18:26.000 And of course they get to tax us now on what humans put off, carbon dioxide, saying it's a deadly poison, when it's one of the four, you know, life-giving building blocks, water, sun, carbon dioxide, oxygen.

00:18:37.000 On this planet.

00:18:38.000 But I've heard them on NPR go, Americans are soon going to have our standard of living taken.

00:18:41.000 We deserve it.

00:18:42.000 It's like a little liberal sacrament.

00:18:44.000 Oh, we're going to pay now.

00:18:46.000 They admit it's a scam!

00:18:47.000 I mean, they are just... Go ahead, Tex.

00:18:50.000 Well, back to this water.

00:18:51.000 Not only T. Boone Pickens, there are many more.

00:18:53.000 For example, Maury Strong.

00:18:54.000 He's a Canadian.

00:18:55.000 But he comes down to Colorado with his wife, Hannah.

00:18:58.000 The first thing he does, this rich Illuminati He's admittedly into the occult.

00:19:03.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:19:04.000 Well, he builds a temple to the occult.

00:19:08.000 A New Age temple there in the Baca Grande area of Colorado.

00:19:12.000 Remember now, he's a rich, fabulously rich Canadian.

00:19:15.000 But there he is in Colorado.

00:19:16.000 Why?

00:19:17.000 Because he bought up, for a song, the water rites To Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, because of this Baca Grande.

00:19:27.000 Trillions of barrels of water in the ground.

00:19:29.000 And by the way, governments aren't allowed to sell the aquifers, but they do.

00:19:32.000 Oh, oh yeah.

00:19:33.000 Now, strong, strong.

00:19:34.000 And that's why they're now saying, you can't drill a well, you can't have your own water.

00:19:37.000 Go ahead.

00:19:38.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:19:38.000 They're going to control us.

00:19:39.000 And they're going to watch.

00:19:40.000 People that now have wells loaded on the country.

00:19:42.000 There's 2 million cops.

00:19:43.000 They're going to be metered.

00:19:44.000 They're talking about 3 million enviro-cops, without warrants, just everywhere spying.

00:19:48.000 Go ahead.

00:19:49.000 Well, the satellites are watching too.

00:19:51.000 Yeah, that's what they're using.

00:19:52.000 They're using the military satellites.

00:19:54.000 Don't blow your own well, they'll be watching.

00:19:56.000 No, no, they admit it now.

00:19:57.000 Local police are going to have it too.

00:19:59.000 Now, the interesting thing about Maurice Strong, for example, and I talk about him quite a bit in my book, Circle of Intrigue, the hidden inner circle of the global Illuminati conspiracy.

00:20:10.000 Strong was the head, at the time, when he bought up these water rights here in the United States, head of the United Nations Environmental Program.

00:20:20.000 Then he went back up to Canada and he bought into Hydro Canada.

00:20:24.000 Now he owns most of the water rights of the Canadian people.

00:20:28.000 Now, the reason why they did this, why they bought up all these water rights, all these aquifers very slowly, very quietly over the last two decades, they are now going to drive up the price of water to unbelievable levels.

00:20:41.000 It's going to be such a precious resource.

00:20:44.000 And they're going to watch every little drop.

00:20:47.000 Forget about your lawns.

00:20:48.000 Forget about your home gardens.

00:20:50.000 And people who live out in the country that have their own wells, they're going to have to put meters on them.

00:20:54.000 They're going to watch everything.

00:20:55.000 And this is feudalism.

00:20:56.000 And privatization.

00:20:57.000 And all of the municipal water companies have been forced to sell their operations to the rich.

00:21:02.000 Has anybody wondered why it's Dutch, German, British, Israeli?

00:21:05.000 They own all the water districts now.

00:21:07.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:21:08.000 And in fact, I get the reports all the time.

00:21:09.000 They'll come in and buy the city's water, pay off the politicians, and then double, triple prices overnight.

00:21:14.000 Now, the food industry is exactly the same.

00:21:16.000 We're going to come back and talk about that with Tex Mars.

00:21:19.000 And then during this break, for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers or for InfoWars.com internet stream listeners, we're going to go ahead and switch over to that stream right now, folks.

00:21:26.000 You'll be able to hear me and Tex at the InfoWars stream and continue this discussion to all our MNF affiliates.

00:21:32.000 We'll be right back in three minutes for all of you that are out there.

00:21:36.000 We're trying to stop the New World Order.

00:21:39.000 Okay, Tex, we've got three minutes here, and I want to get more into Palfrey and what's happening.

00:21:45.000 We're having two discussions here, parallel, called the Schizophrenic Radio Show.

00:21:49.000 But a lot of people are pointing out that this was the High Holy Day, May 1st, yesterday, and that murders always go up then, kidnappings go up in the week before.

00:21:59.000 And that they always kill D.C.

00:22:02.000 Pages, and they always have weird murders and weird things that happen on that day, and they like to wait until that day.

00:22:09.000 Have you found any truth to this?

00:22:11.000 Of course.

00:22:12.000 The ancient pagans, okay, which all this is based on, this Illuminism is based on, worshipped on May Day.

00:22:19.000 They had their great orgies to Bacchus and Dionysius.

00:22:23.000 Now, these May Day celebrations, all right, May the 1st, you'll recall that Adam Weishaupt, who founded the Order of the Illuminati, founded it on May 1, 1776.

00:22:36.000 May 1.

00:22:37.000 The Communist Revolution, Lenin and Trotsky, they took over the Soviet Union in November But when did they have their big celebrations annually with all of the tanks and the rockets going down Red Square there in Moscow?

00:22:52.000 May 1!

00:22:52.000 You can have Communists, you can have Google, you can have Republicans, you can have... They all celebrate May Day, and the dumbed-down public doesn't know this is the highest holy day.

00:23:02.000 They call it International Solidarity Day, you know, among the unions and others.

00:23:07.000 And of course, May Day is actually a satanic festival.

00:23:11.000 Remember, they would also have the maypoles they would put up, and have all the kids parade around.

00:23:15.000 Then they would have their orgies out in the forest and so forth, worshiping Pan, the horned god of the forest.

00:23:20.000 Now, let's, you know, move right up to today.

00:23:24.000 We have the same celebrations of May Day going around the world, May Day.

00:23:30.000 Okay, in England, and France, and Italy, and among the Illuminati, among the Freemasons, this is a key day. 0.62

00:23:38.000 This is bigger than Samhain.

00:23:40.000 That's why they have the Mexican illegal immigrants all go out on May Day, May 1st. 1.00

00:23:44.000 There's communists, but that's only one facet.

00:23:46.000 Yeah, and of course, all of that is organized.

00:23:48.000 They don't go out spontaneously.

00:23:49.000 Rob Allen and Co., the big Republican deal that admitted funded all of this.

00:23:53.000 Yeah.

00:23:54.000 So, yeah, May Day, I can see this incredible... We have Valparaiso Night, the Satanic Festival. 0.87

00:24:02.000 April, of course, is a big month, and everything goes to a crescendo for May Day.

00:24:07.000 And remember what this is.

00:24:09.000 They're now forcing the harvest.

00:24:11.000 That's what they believe.

00:24:12.000 Through human sacrifice, they're forcing the harvest.

00:24:15.000 The spring has come.

00:24:17.000 The gods look upon us favorable.

00:24:19.000 And now the sun is returning.

00:24:21.000 And now it's possible to have the harvest. 0.91

00:24:23.000 Of course, to you and I, this sounds ridiculous.

00:24:26.000 You know, all of these things, but not to them. 0.89

00:24:28.000 It doesn't matter whether we think it's crazy, whether it's insane, we know it is.

00:24:33.000 But listen, there are millions of people that believe in these things, and there's a small core.

00:24:39.000 Five to six thousand Illuminati, and of course, you know, those that are really in the know go into only the few hundred.

00:24:45.000 Stay there.

00:24:46.000 And there in the next break, we'll go back into that.

00:24:48.000 We're having two parallel discussions today.

00:25:02.000 During the break, we're talking about why did they kill Paul III on May Day, the high, holy occult day.

00:25:08.000 And then it got into environmentalism and how they believe it's earth worship, sun worship.

00:25:12.000 And then now we see that topic, because it's all interconnected, nexusing with how they want to control the resources through feudalism because they, quote, worship the earth.

00:25:22.000 But then they're the ones actually destroying the earth because they believe in this yin and yang, the Illuminati Code, that they destroy and they rebuild.

00:25:29.000 But in their own stated documents, it's official.

00:25:32.000 They say that they're going to take the water, the food, the land, the oil, jack up the prices to bring you all back to a feudal level so you can't afford to have children.

00:25:41.000 And as I told you they would do, they've now proposed one-child taxes in the U.S.

00:25:45.000 as it started in China and then seven years later it started in the mid-70s and then in the early 80s became mandatory.

00:25:52.000 They signed IMF World Bank deals.

00:25:54.000 They signed on a State Department Memorandum 200.

00:25:57.000 This is all coming.

00:25:58.000 You think it's bad now with a cop on every corner?

00:26:00.000 New environmental regulations, animal ID, premise society, thousands of dollars in fines for tiny things, total control.

00:26:08.000 They're flattening tires, burning down buildings now, the fake environmentalists.

00:26:12.000 Soon they're going to be in uniforms.

00:26:13.000 They already are.

00:26:14.000 Al Gore, 10 million strong, youth army in the US.

00:26:18.000 Tex, please continue.

00:26:19.000 Well, you know, Several years ago, I wrote this book, Days of Hunger, Days of Chaos.

00:26:23.000 I want you to have a copy of it, Alex, because in this book, the subtitle, by the way, is The Coming Great Food Shortages in America.

00:26:31.000 And a lot of people said, hey, this can't be.

00:26:34.000 You know, I don't believe this kind of stuff.

00:26:36.000 But here's a book, over 200 pages that I wrote.

00:26:38.000 This was the first book To expose Monsanto, Dow Chemical and the others, their plans for the Terminator gene to be implanted in the seeds.

00:26:47.000 You wrote this.

00:26:48.000 You wrote this nine years ago, I remember.

00:26:50.000 Absolutely.

00:26:50.000 And people couldn't believe it.

00:26:51.000 They couldn't believe that the Terminator seeds would be used by piromids.

00:26:55.000 But you saw their own documents and you knew that they planned to create this artificial.

00:26:58.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:26:58.000 Go ahead.

00:26:59.000 Now, think of this.

00:27:01.000 Maria Bertini, I quote her in the book.

00:27:03.000 Who is Maria Bertini?

00:27:04.000 She was the head of the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization.

00:27:09.000 There is a World Food Authority.

00:27:11.000 They've already set it up, okay, at the United Nations.

00:27:14.000 In fact, they have erected a building, a gigantic complex, in Brussels, Belgium.

00:27:20.000 All right?

00:27:21.000 My next newsletter, I'm going to have a picture of that building.

00:27:24.000 Hey, it seems to be ten times as big as the United States Capitol.

00:27:27.000 It must have thousands of bureaucrats. 1.00

00:27:30.000 They are ready to go.

00:27:31.000 They're going to control the world's food, including America's food. 0.97

00:27:35.000 They had that Beijing conference, 96, 97, which one?

00:27:39.000 And the head of the UN Food Program said, we will use food as a weapon, we have used it as a weapon, and we do not apologize.

00:27:45.000 That was Bertini.

00:27:46.000 And she said, and I want to quote her, food is power.

00:27:51.000 Food is power.

00:27:53.000 The head of the United Nations Food Program, with this gigantic building, they probably employ three or four thousand bureaucrats in this one building in Brussels, Belgium, for food.

00:28:04.000 And remember also, the United Nations last year had an international water conference.

00:28:09.000 They're warning people.

00:28:10.000 There are going to be wars between nations over water.

00:28:14.000 Already we're seeing food riots.

00:28:17.000 Everything is taking place so that they can program our minds.

00:28:22.000 This is alchemical attacks, alchemical magic attacks on the brain.

00:28:26.000 We're being taught that food and water and fuel now are these incredibly scarce commodities.

00:28:33.000 That's right.

00:28:34.000 But don't worry, government's going to help us.

00:28:36.000 One child.

00:28:37.000 Oh yeah.

00:28:38.000 Less people, as Ted Turner's been saying, there are suddenly all of a sudden, if we had less people, you could have the Mercedes again.

00:28:45.000 Well, isn't it interesting that Ted Turner, who, you know, the guy that once called Christians losers and bozos, Ted Turner, who's been favored by the Illuminati rich all his life, he says, we must all have no more than one child.

00:28:59.000 He has five. 0.70

00:29:00.000 I'm glad you mentioned that!

00:29:02.000 He has five!

00:29:03.000 Himself!

00:29:06.000 All of this is a setup, of course.

00:29:09.000 This zero population growth, which by the way, George Bush Sr.

00:29:12.000 used to be the head of it.

00:29:14.000 Rockefeller made him the head of the zero population growth organization years ago.

00:29:20.000 So, we have an attack on human beings, as you mentioned earlier, Alex.

00:29:25.000 And these three key resources, I want to bring something to people's minds.

00:29:30.000 If they're attacking our minds, what do we do?

00:29:33.000 To recover.

00:29:34.000 What do we do?

00:29:35.000 Of course we tell the truth, but listen to this.

00:29:38.000 Rather than going into this mindset, this programmed magical trance, that there is an age of scarcity, we need to strike back.

00:29:47.000 And let me tell you how we can do it.

00:29:49.000 We need to bring up proof, just as you and others did with 9-11.

00:29:53.000 What you did, Alex, you said, we will not accept the establishment version of event.

00:29:57.000 Why?

00:29:58.000 Because it doesn't correlate with the truth.

00:30:01.000 And then you and a few others begin to bring this incredible array of truth to the fore.

00:30:07.000 Books, videos by you and others, radio programs.

00:30:11.000 You have been smashing the 9-11, the establishment version, the lie.

00:30:16.000 Now they've got the lie about Oil shortages, oil scarcity, water scarcity, food scarcity.

00:30:22.000 But as I said, Richard N. Haas at the CFR, we can use his own quote.

00:30:25.000 He said, these are made up.

00:30:26.000 He says it.

00:30:27.000 But we're going to have terror on one part, and then we're going to have the environment on the other for scarcity to wage war on the people.

00:30:34.000 And they say because when we have too much resources, we have time on our hands, we have liberty, we can politically get involved.

00:30:40.000 There you go.

00:30:40.000 We go back to the basic needs.

00:30:42.000 Once the basic needs are met, people look for higher, abstract things.

00:30:47.000 Self-actualization.

00:30:48.000 That's the hierarchy of needs.

00:30:51.000 And people then say, wow, we want liberty, we want freedom.

00:30:54.000 But they're willing to give up their liberty and freedom if they need to eat, if they're thirsty, if they're worried about how they're going to afford a home for their family because of the oil prices going up and smashing the economy.

00:31:08.000 What we need to do Is show that these are lies.

00:31:12.000 There is no age of scarcity.

00:31:13.000 The world is awash in petroleum.

00:31:17.000 It's a cornucopia.

00:31:18.000 And I want to prove that.

00:31:19.000 I've got just some news items.

00:31:21.000 If we just do basic research, we're going to find there's oil coming out of the world's ears.

00:31:29.000 This is planet petroleum.

00:31:30.000 I have family, I don't myself, that has some nice oil in Texas, in East Texas.

00:31:30.000 I want to be clear.

00:31:36.000 You know, they don't like all the lies, even though it's making them make more money.

00:31:40.000 I mean, I'm telling you as somebody whose family's worked as a petroleum geologist, worked in oil companies, worked as plant heads, worked as roughnecks, the whole leasehounds, you know, we're Texans.

00:31:50.000 Are your families in it?

00:31:51.000 I'm in it.

00:31:52.000 And, you know, in East Texas, where my family's from, almost everybody's got an oil well.

00:31:56.000 Call it mailbox money. 1.00

00:31:57.000 Well, we wake up in the morning and we smell oil where I came from in Portland, Texas.

00:32:01.000 Exactly, but the point is, is that everywhere they drill, it comes.

00:32:04.000 I mean, just shooting out natural gas, helium.

00:32:07.000 And the people's backyards, in some places around Kilgore and other places in Texas.

00:32:11.000 It's ridiculous, and it's from Illinois to Oklahoma to Cal, Al Gore owns big oil fields in LA.

00:32:17.000 Well, he owns those.

00:32:18.000 Here's the thing about Al Gore we have to understand.

00:32:20.000 Remember what we said, that the oil companies Funded, founded, and sponsor the environmental organizations so that the environmental organizations can create the pretext of scarcity.

00:32:33.000 We would love to build new refineries, but we can't because of the environmentalists.

00:32:36.000 We would love to go into the ocean, the offshore areas off of California and Oregon and over on the Atlantic side, but the environmentalists won't let us.

00:32:45.000 And then Schumer gets on TV and says, We would have a one cent decrease in twenty years when I've had the executives on who were there and they admit that on one north shore there's almost as much as there is in Saudi Arabia.

00:32:58.000 There's more in the whole area and it's almost sweet crude shooting out and they could put in five new pipelines in a year.

00:33:05.000 They will not do it!

00:33:06.000 Absolutely.

00:33:07.000 Now why would Al Gore Why would he promote this global warming?

00:33:10.000 Why would he promote environmentalism?

00:33:11.000 Why would he become the new guru?

00:33:13.000 They'd rather have a monopoly than a free market.

00:33:16.000 Well, not only that, remember the Gore family, Albert Gore Sr.

00:33:20.000 and now Albert Gore Jr., they are shields for Occidental Petroleum.

00:33:25.000 Orman Hammer funded him.

00:33:28.000 I mean, I can show you pictures of them sitting around the swimming pool together.

00:33:31.000 He is the majority owner.

00:33:33.000 I remember that when his dad died, and in seeing press reports years ago, the former Senator Gore, that Al Gore now owned the controlling stock in Occidental.

00:33:43.000 So he's an oil man, just like Bush with Harken Oil and the others.

00:33:47.000 He's an oil man.

00:33:48.000 Cheney with Halliburton Oil Servicing Company.

00:33:52.000 We have oil men.

00:33:53.000 Al Gore is an oil man.

00:33:55.000 He was brought up in oil.

00:33:57.000 His father was a paid shill for Occidental Petroleum, which was owned, by the way, by a, and this is really an oxymoron, a communist capitalist, Armand Hammer, that every year ran back and forth to visit with the... But as Carol Quigley said... Pope Fubas of communist Russia... They want monopolies to deal with, so they help put the communists in. 0.54

00:34:19.000 Well, Al Gore now is going to become a billionaire.

00:34:23.000 He recently became one of the principals of a corporation worth $683 million, I believe.

00:34:29.000 And they trade in the energy stocks.

00:34:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:34:33.000 But remember, the important thing is they must create this scarcity that they're lying about.

00:34:38.000 And the only way they can create it is by bottling up all the world's oil, all the world's water, all the world's resources, including the food.

00:34:46.000 That's why the agribusiness corporations Willie Nelson has done a great thing to help the little farmers, but they only are producing a small percentage of the food.

00:34:56.000 It's the agribusiness corporations.

00:34:59.000 They own the food supply.

00:34:59.000 Since they've moved in, now, what was it, 50 years ago, they said we could supply the world three and a half times over with what we had currently.

00:35:08.000 Now we are bringing 30 plus percent of our food in.

00:35:11.000 There is so much food.

00:35:12.000 Listen, the warehouses are bursting at the seams with food now around the world.

00:35:17.000 You know, when I was a young man... They've been speculating and hoarding and waiting to sell.

00:35:20.000 Well, of course, the commodity speculators, they are the speculators.

00:35:24.000 If they drive up the price of wheat 67%, they're the ones that own all the futures and the futures markets.

00:35:31.000 Chicago is the world's leader.

00:35:34.000 They're holding onto it to drive it up.

00:35:37.000 Explain how that works.

00:35:39.000 Well, first of all, they buy a Futures, which is really a bet.

00:35:44.000 It's a Las Vegas bet saying that food prices will go up.

00:35:48.000 And when they go up, they make billions of dollars.

00:35:51.000 If the food prices don't go up, they don't make their billions.

00:35:55.000 They do, just like the oil, they guarantee and rig the future.

00:35:58.000 To create scarcity.

00:36:00.000 They can, for example, claim, because remember now, they're the agribusiness corporations, they can claim there's a blight on wheat, and the wheat supply is ruined.

00:36:07.000 They can claim that the winter frost killed the coffee down in South America.

00:36:13.000 They can also blame it, and I've actually looked at these numbers now, they can also blame it on the ethanol, when that's a tiny fraction of it, which the Saudis want shut down.

00:36:23.000 Well, and of course, ethanol is a silly thing, because the world is awash in petroleum.

00:36:27.000 It is silly, but they don't like it.

00:36:29.000 Now, I want to prove our point on this planet petroleum. 0.81

00:36:33.000 Because a lot of people out there say, I've heard so much about peak oil.

00:36:36.000 Surely we are running out of oil.

00:36:38.000 Now, first I want to mention that I began reading about peak oil back in the 1960s.

00:36:44.000 And I would read articles.

00:36:46.000 My dad also worked at an oil refinery.

00:36:49.000 And we would get all these oil and gas industry publications in.

00:36:53.000 I would read them, and there would be fear articles.

00:36:55.000 For example, I remember specifically, when I was a senior in high school, 1961, I read this article that really shook me up.

00:37:02.000 Here I was, a 17-year-old kid.

00:37:04.000 And what did it say?

00:37:05.000 The world was running out of oil.

00:37:08.000 And by 1980, there would be no more oil left in the world.

00:37:12.000 By 1980.

00:37:13.000 Yes, and we'd have an ice age too.

00:37:14.000 Yeah, and they keep moving up the date, you know, of when the oil is going to run out.

00:37:19.000 Like they say, we're about to have 10 years of super cooling, but that's the global warming coming.

00:37:25.000 Well, you know, Alex, first of all, no one has ever looked at, if it were true, I wish global warming was a fact, and let me tell you why.

00:37:32.000 The Iberian maxim.

00:37:34.000 It does.

00:37:35.000 And farmers could plant more crops.

00:37:37.000 There would be more food.

00:37:39.000 It would be a green, green world if we had global warming, because the frost wouldn't come and kill off things.

00:37:44.000 They'd have vineyards again in London.

00:37:46.000 Absolutely.

00:37:46.000 And if the Arctic ice melted, Guess what?

00:37:49.000 We could take those icebergs, as they're breaking off, bring them, and that would be the water source!

00:37:54.000 Well, Texas... Wow!

00:37:55.000 Exactly.

00:37:55.000 But wait, they could, you know, bring those around, pull them around, and you would have billions, trillions of barrels of water.

00:38:03.000 But wait!

00:38:04.000 Then you could get through the permafrost, which wouldn't exist anymore.

00:38:07.000 And all of the oil in the Arctic, can you imagine we would really be awash in oil?

00:38:11.000 Let's have global warming! 1.00

00:38:12.000 But listen, there is, unfortunately, unfortunately, there is no global warming, because as you know, you well know, you're a researcher, the world's four top weather tracking organizations now say we are going into a global cooling period.

00:38:28.000 Because the sun had heated up briefly, now it's cooled.

00:38:31.000 Yeah.

00:38:31.000 And the entire solar system's moons... It's a cyclical thing, a natural cyclical thing.

00:38:35.000 Well, I mean, take Mars.

00:38:37.000 Ice cap was receding, and now it's getting bigger again than it just started, and they have exact measurements with the satellites.

00:38:44.000 But I have David Rothschild on, and he just said, nope, there's no ice caps.

00:38:47.000 And we confronted Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:38:50.000 He said, there's no ice caps on Mars, everybody knows that.

00:38:52.000 And then he went on to say, Rothschild, that Jupiter and Saturn are closer to the Sun than Earth.

00:38:58.000 Well, you know, in Minnesota, you go up to Duluth, Minnesota, And I'll tell you, in the wintertime, there's plenty of ice and snow.

00:39:06.000 Okay?

00:39:07.000 I love the people of Minnesota.

00:39:08.000 I don't want to live there.

00:39:09.000 But you know what?

00:39:09.000 You go there in summertime, and it actually gets pretty hot there.

00:39:13.000 There is no ice in the summer in Minnesota.

00:39:16.000 Does that mean we're in global warming?

00:39:17.000 No!

00:39:18.000 It means we've gone into a new season.

00:39:19.000 It's summertime!

00:39:21.000 They also fearmonger every summer.

00:39:24.000 In the middle of August they'll be saying record heat.

00:39:26.000 I grew up in Dallas.

00:39:27.000 I remember 115 days.

00:39:28.000 I remember a red sun.

00:39:31.000 I remember the grass all dead.

00:39:33.000 And they're telling me in Texas at 105 some deadly super wave.

00:39:37.000 I have seen the mercury at 115 for a month straight.

00:39:40.000 The Al Gores of this world cannot wait for June, July, and August to get here when the temperature naturally, every summer, goes up. 0.94

00:39:47.000 And then they can say, it's a little warmer.

00:39:49.000 That's psychology.

00:39:50.000 Yeah.

00:39:50.000 Psychology.

00:39:50.000 Well, here's an example.

00:39:52.000 If you give people the scientific name for water, they will say bannet.

00:39:56.000 Or you tell them, sodium chloride, should we make kids eat sodium chloride?

00:40:00.000 No, no, ban it.

00:40:02.000 It's bad for them.

00:40:03.000 If they didn't have sodium chloride, people would die.

00:40:06.000 They've got to have a certain amount of salt.

00:40:08.000 That's my point.

00:40:08.000 Go back to satellites.

00:40:10.000 They have now said, five years ago, we're going to have the spy satellites watch farmers, make sure you're not planting trees in environmental areas, make sure you're not cutting down things.

00:40:19.000 They're now saying they want to cut down trees, because they also put out carbon dioxide.

00:40:22.000 That was the new thing.

00:40:23.000 Now trees are bad.

00:40:24.000 That was yesterday.

00:40:25.000 They're actually haters of nature.

00:40:29.000 They are.

00:40:29.000 They're haters of nature.

00:40:30.000 Yeah, let's be clear.

00:40:31.000 They claim to be lovers, but they are haters.

00:40:32.000 They claim they want to save the earth, but that was my next point.

00:40:36.000 Why do they really love to hurt it?

00:40:37.000 Well, you know, around Chicago, Illinois, when the old horse Greeley is saying, go west, young man, go west, well, many people moved to Illinois in the United States and settled around there.

00:40:50.000 At that time, they didn't have any trees.

00:40:51.000 They brought trees from the east, they planted them.

00:40:53.000 And then, of course, the seeds went through there.

00:40:55.000 That's why there's more trees now than there were a hundred years ago.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, there's more trees in America than there were a hundred years ago.

00:40:59.000 It's more green than it was.

00:41:00.000 Interestingly enough, though, environmental organizations in Illinois are now demanding, they have actually counted, they say, the trees in suburban Illinois, Chicago.

00:41:11.000 They say there are 80,000 trees, and they're demanding those trees be cut down.

00:41:16.000 They want to cut down all the 80,000 trees.

00:41:18.000 Why?

00:41:19.000 They say, well, originally, Illinois was a plain state, and it had all these grasses.

00:41:25.000 We want to return to the native grasses.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, yeah, your new trees are an invasive species.

00:41:31.000 Yeah, but see, that's it.

00:41:32.000 Well, they're beautiful trees, and for, you know, thankfully. 0.98

00:41:35.000 Listen, they make you do asinine things because they know psychologically, you know, as a psychology professor, you know, if they can make you do something stupid, they can make you do anything else they want.

00:41:46.000 Yes, now, if it's true that Illinois once was grassland, and they want to cut down all the trees and return it to grassland, but at one time was not Illinois Ice covered? 0.96

00:41:56.000 Why don't we return to the ice then?

00:41:56.000 Yes.

00:41:58.000 At one time it was a... At what historical point do we go back to, you know?

00:42:03.000 But at one point it was an inland sea.

00:42:04.000 There was the inland sea.

00:42:06.000 Well, of course, all of these things are a means of mind control, of causing radical transformation in society, just like this new reality, this age of scarcity.

00:42:16.000 Now, what I would really like is to give some evidence of how we are awash in petroleum, Alex.

00:42:23.000 People need to have the tools and the ammunition to use.

00:42:26.000 Stay there.

00:42:26.000 I want to come back during this break if people are watching on PrisonPlanet.tv or if people are listening on the InfoWars.com streams.

00:42:35.000 You'll be able to hear me and Tex talk about another subject.

00:42:37.000 We're going to come back and finish up with that.

00:42:38.000 Tex Marr is in studio with us.

00:42:40.000 Absolutely amazing.

00:42:41.000 We'll be right back.

00:42:44.000 Okay, Tex, we have a new development?

00:42:47.000 Come on, I normally handle business during the breaks here.

00:42:49.000 Tex, we just absolutely rampage here non-stop.

00:42:53.000 Okay, thank you.

00:42:57.000 Oh my gosh, we just found DC Manum.

00:42:59.000 I'd never want my life to end in suicide.

00:43:01.000 More of that coming up.

00:43:02.000 Thank you very much, Aaron.

00:43:04.000 Tex, I want to keep you, if we can, about 15 minutes to the next hour, or are you and Wanda planning something?

00:43:11.000 We're planning to be right here with you.

00:43:12.000 Whatever we need to do, because this is too important.

00:43:15.000 Okay, good.

00:43:15.000 Guys, make sure you call Hoffman, and make sure he knows he's coming on the 15 after next hour.

00:43:19.000 Let's make deadly sure about that.

00:43:20.000 Thank you.

00:43:21.000 By the way, I recommend people continue to tune in because Michael Hoffman is a source of information.

00:43:27.000 A terrific researcher.

00:43:28.000 Well, we have you, we have everybody that talks about all these subjects, and then other talk show hosts that are jealous, Tex, and that's sad because we need everybody to win.

00:43:36.000 They all freak out and claim I censor all subjects when I cover everything forever.

00:43:41.000 But again, people always want to say, I'm the best, I'll cover all the special things, but that's not true.

00:43:46.000 We cover the entire spectrum, that's why we've been successful, whereas most people limit in the tiny little areas.

00:43:52.000 Well there, Johnny, one note.

00:43:53.000 I thank God for these people that have a special knowledge in one area.

00:43:59.000 But right now we're being assaulted on so many fronts.

00:44:02.000 We've got to keep up, and we've got to be able to defend ourselves as human beings and citizens.

00:44:06.000 You call it an alchemy, it is!

00:44:07.000 I mean, it's an art form.

00:44:08.000 They understand it's thousands of things they do.

00:44:10.000 Go ahead.

00:44:11.000 Well, they've got the money.

00:44:11.000 They've got the billions of dollars and resources to do this.

00:44:16.000 Back to the... I have several things here that I want us to look at.

00:44:21.000 Here's from Yahoo Finance.

00:44:22.000 Well, I'll tell you what, the main stations are back in two minutes.

00:44:25.000 They're back in two minutes.

00:44:26.000 So take that then.

00:44:27.000 We're just talking about generally everything that's happening.

00:44:29.000 I also want to be able to plug your free newsletter and everything else for people.

00:44:33.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

00:44:34.000 And some of the newest works you've done.

00:44:37.000 Well, I really want people to get this book, Days of Hunger, Days of Chaos.

00:44:41.000 They'll find out how these chemical corporations now control our seeds.

00:44:46.000 You know, they've managed to make crops.

00:44:49.000 The seeds destroy themselves through science in one year.

00:44:53.000 Each year, the seeds are destroyed, and farmers have to go back and buy the seeds from these huge corporations.

00:45:00.000 At the same time, I want people to understand, we're going to end up, and by the way, you know, I'm a Christian, and even Bible prophecy Says one of the four riders, you know, the horses and the riders of the apocalypse, one of them brings famine and pestilence and death.

00:45:18.000 The pale horse rider and the black horse rider.

00:45:20.000 So this is even a prophetic thing that there'll be great hunger.

00:45:24.000 Now here's the horror of this.

00:45:26.000 It's a contrived, it's a false hunger.

00:45:29.000 There will be warehouses full of food, but people will be starving.

00:45:33.000 You remember back in the 1930s, depression.

00:45:36.000 I had many older people who told me that they would see the milk trucks, you know, almost like the refrigerated milk trucks and such, and they would be throwing milk out.

00:45:45.000 Stay there, let's say that on the show.

00:45:46.000 Let's do that one.

00:45:47.000 All right, let's do that one.

00:45:47.000 Here we go.

00:45:48.000 Now.

00:45:48.000 Okay, we're coming back in fast here.

00:45:56.000 We're going to keep Tex a little bit in the next hour.

00:45:57.000 He's been great enough to do that.

00:45:59.000 TexMarsch.com will give you all the contact info.

00:46:01.000 Now he'll get his free newsletter and a lot more in a few minutes.

00:46:05.000 But before we do that, I want to be clear here.

00:46:07.000 Using the satellites, having local police dial into them, spying on you, micromanaging, that federalizes the locals, violates your Fourth Amendment, You think you're under control and surveillance now.

00:46:18.000 It's all going to be done under the guise of saving the earth.

00:46:21.000 Meanwhile, they're doing the genetic engineering and everything that really is hurting the earth.

00:46:26.000 So we have all of that going on.

00:46:29.000 And meanwhile, you read the Monsanto documents and they say, you know, we're going to contaminate everything, then claim ownership of the world.

00:46:35.000 This is systematic wrecking of economy, systematic destruction, artificial scarcity.

00:46:40.000 Text Mars, please continue with all the points you were going to make about that.

00:46:43.000 About the depression, how they had the milk trucks, how they really had plenty, how they cut down on the credit, artificially did it.

00:46:49.000 All the news articles, you've got the floor.

00:46:51.000 Well, it's important to understand that these are contrived chaos events.

00:46:57.000 Contrived chaos.

00:46:59.000 Remember the elitist motto, even 33rd degree Freemasonry, is Ordo Ab Chaos.

00:47:05.000 Order out of chaos.

00:47:07.000 They create the chaos, and now they're doing it with oil and the economy.

00:47:11.000 They're doing it with food.

00:47:14.000 And they're doing it with water.

00:47:17.000 Not to even mention the contrived terrorism that we have today.

00:47:22.000 That is the umbrella for all this.

00:47:24.000 What I want people to know, though, is we can fight back.

00:47:27.000 We can fight back.

00:47:28.000 How do we do it?

00:47:29.000 When they say that we're moving into an age of scarcity, and all of our lives have to change, and we have to become a third world impoverished nation, and we just have to suck it up, that's just too bad.

00:47:40.000 And we have to put up with $4, even $10 at the gas pump for a gallon of gasoline.

00:47:46.000 We need to say, no, absolutely a lie.

00:47:49.000 There is no age of scarcity.

00:47:51.000 We are planet petroleum.

00:47:53.000 We're planet aqua.

00:47:54.000 We've got plenty.

00:47:56.000 And we need to prove it, because we can prove it.

00:47:58.000 Wait a minute, the blue planet has no water.

00:48:00.000 Well, it does have water.

00:48:03.000 Of course there's water.

00:48:04.000 There's water everywhere.

00:48:05.000 There's always been water everywhere.

00:48:06.000 But water is deadly poison.

00:48:07.000 We must tax it.

00:48:09.000 Well, yeah, there's a solution that they come up with, of course.

00:48:15.000 Just like in the food area.

00:48:16.000 I understand that Barack Obama introduced, as a senator, introduced legislation that would tax the American people one and a half percent of their income.

00:48:26.000 The money would go, again this is a new tax levied against us, the money then, the billions that they plunder from the people, would go to the United Nations to feed the hungry of the world.

00:48:38.000 And then that means Just like Bill Gates gives 80 plus billion to Warren Buffett, you hear it's to help Africans, it's to sterilize them, give them HIV, they've been caught, force them to eat GMO food, force Big Agra in. 0.96

00:48:50.000 All the help they give you is really an assault.

00:48:53.000 It's just like taking money from the lobby.

00:48:54.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:48:55.000 John McCain, on the other hand, to show that we're not knocking any one political candidate, John McCain, on the other hand, said, hey, listen, for this summer only, Let's, you know, knock off the tax for the gasoline.

00:49:07.000 That'll save everybody, what, you know, $30 a month.

00:49:11.000 Isn't that great?

00:49:12.000 But he doesn't see any problem at all with gasoline tripling in price.

00:49:16.000 He probably would not see one problem with gasoline going to $10 a gallon and the oil companies enriching themselves.

00:49:23.000 Well, that's a tax to the globalists right there.

00:49:24.000 Well, it is.

00:49:25.000 So, they say no problem with the oil company profits being at spectacular record highs and these contrived shortages.

00:49:32.000 And I remember hearing them ten years ago, five years ago on NPR, because my wife listens to it, you know, cooking dinner.

00:49:38.000 And I listen, and it's always, soon the Americans will learn, oh, I can't wait, we're so greedy and bad.

00:49:44.000 Soon, you know, we've been living outside our means.

00:49:47.000 Oh, oh, sure.

00:49:48.000 You shouldn't be driving around in those big cars and going places.

00:49:50.000 And by the way, you should be living in those cramped You know, you should be living downtown.

00:49:55.000 After all, you shouldn't... What are you doing living in the suburbs?

00:49:59.000 That waste... But really, it's all about control.

00:49:59.000 Smart growth.

00:50:02.000 And I know a lot of wealthy people, they say, well, you know what?

00:50:04.000 So what?

00:50:04.000 I can pay five bucks a gallon for gas.

00:50:06.000 Yeah, but their businesses are connected to the general public who can't.

00:50:09.000 This is going to hurt everybody.

00:50:11.000 I don't think that McCain or Obama or Hillary Clinton or George Bush have ever driven up to an Exxon and put gasoline in their car.

00:50:22.000 Remember George Bush Senior?

00:50:23.000 They drive around in limos.

00:50:23.000 They don't do that.

00:50:25.000 He doesn't know what a grocery store scanner is.

00:50:27.000 Exactly.

00:50:27.000 We'll be right back.

00:50:28.000 It just shocked him to think the food was scanned there at the cash register.

00:50:34.000 We can keep going, Tex.

00:50:35.000 Alright.

00:50:35.000 Go ahead.

00:50:36.000 Well, when we come back, but even now, I would like to talk about the fact That as we are being told that we have a terrific supply problem with oil, and we're running out of oil.

00:50:47.000 And here's a Yahoo Finance news item.

00:50:52.000 It says, oil futures jump to record over $115 on supply concerns.

00:50:57.000 That's what Americans are being told, Alex.

00:50:59.000 But wait!

00:51:01.000 Here, and this is what people don't understand.

00:51:04.000 Some of the world's press doesn't lie as much as Americans do. 0.60

00:51:07.000 For example, here's in The Times in London.

00:51:11.000 What does it say?

00:51:12.000 What does the Times newspaper say?

00:51:14.000 Now this is just as mighty a newspaper as our New York Times and Los Angeles newspaper and Chicago Tribune.

00:51:21.000 It says, world not running out of oil, say experts.

00:51:26.000 Hey, has George Bush told us about this?

00:51:28.000 Has McCain, Obama, Hillary?

00:51:31.000 Have they told us that according to the London Times Newspaper, the world is not running out of oil?

00:51:36.000 And it says here, Alex... We're going to go back live.

00:51:38.000 I want you to cover those.

00:51:39.000 Recover those right now.

00:51:40.000 And there's no need for us on our streams to be cutting.

00:51:42.000 and we can just go straight with this.

00:51:44.000 War on corruption.

00:51:45.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:51:47.000 What is it, just hacked the daylights?

00:51:49.000 Okay, good.

00:51:50.000 All right, we're live, ladies and gentlemen.

00:51:52.000 Just continually live now, Tex.

00:51:54.000 Time to do show work.

00:51:55.000 We're going to go back up right now.

00:51:57.000 Well, one of the main things we have to understand... I've got to give you some headphones, Tex.

00:52:01.000 It's my fault.

00:52:02.000 Tex Mars, what a sweetheart. 0.98

00:52:03.000 Alright, John, fade me up.

00:52:04.000 Tex Mars, what a sweetheart. 0.98

00:52:05.000 All right, John, fade me up.

00:52:06.000 And now, live Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:52:12.000 Alright Tex, it does come out that there's tons of oil.

00:52:14.000 A lot of the truth does come out.

00:52:15.000 It's just the general public is still convinced that summer is global warming.

00:52:20.000 And I notice the propaganda intensifies then.

00:52:23.000 Continue here with what's really happening.

00:52:25.000 Well, let's look at this planet awash with oil.

00:52:28.000 Here I have from Yahoo, one of the major American news sources, This claim, it says all futures jump to record over $115 a barrel on supply concerns.

00:52:40.000 In other words, we're running low, we don't have enough.

00:52:43.000 But wait!

00:52:44.000 Wait!

00:52:45.000 You know, the foreign press doesn't seem to want to lie as much as the American press.

00:52:49.000 Maybe it's not as controlled.

00:52:51.000 Here's the Times of London.

00:52:52.000 Now, just as mighty a newspaper, as I was mentioning, as the New York Times or the Chicago Tribune or the Houston Chronicle, what does it say?

00:53:00.000 World not running out of oil, say experts.

00:53:05.000 And it begins, says, doom-laden forecast that world oil supplies are poised to fall off the edge of the cliff are wide off the mark according to leading oil industry experts.

00:53:17.000 Wow!

00:53:18.000 Who would have known?

00:53:19.000 Would John McCain tell us this?

00:53:21.000 Would Barack Obama?

00:53:22.000 Would Hillary? 0.99

00:53:23.000 Would George W.?

00:53:24.000 Now here's something interesting.

00:53:26.000 If we want to see that the world is awash with oil, remember what I said was it's not a matter of how much oil in the world.

00:53:34.000 The world has plenty.

00:53:35.000 It's the delivery system.

00:53:36.000 It's a deliberatism, which is controlled.

00:53:38.000 A contrived crisis to drive up the prices.

00:53:41.000 Well, it's like diamonds are really on the mid-scale or lower scale of even semi-precious.

00:53:46.000 They're not even highly semi-precious.

00:53:48.000 I mean, in Africa, they just lay around on the ground, but people fight, you know, mortgage their house, work a year to pay for a big rock for their wife, because that's the symbol, and literally they have giant warehouses just filled with diamonds.

00:54:01.000 Now, here's an interesting thing.

00:54:03.000 Maybe people haven't heard about the oil discovery done in Brazil.

00:54:07.000 But listen to this from Bloomberg.com.

00:54:09.000 Bloomberg, okay?

00:54:10.000 One of the top sources of financial and industry information in the world.

00:54:15.000 It says Petrobras.

00:54:17.000 Now, that's the petroleum company that's owned by the nation of Brazil, okay?

00:54:23.000 Now, Petrobras, by the way, is a corporation as big as Microsoft, General Motors, and General Electric.

00:54:29.000 It's right there in the top five in all of the Americas.

00:54:32.000 It says Petrobras discovers world's third largest oil field.

00:54:37.000 This just came out.

00:54:38.000 Listen to this.

00:54:39.000 This is a story that just ran April 14th.

00:54:42.000 It says Petrolio Brasilia, that's Petrobras, offshore, Carioca, The oil field may hold 33 million barrels of oil, enough to supply every refinery in the United States for six years, making it the third largest oil field ever discovered.

00:54:59.000 All for Brazil! 0.76

00:55:00.000 In the Atlantic!

00:55:01.000 Can you imagine the oil there?

00:55:03.000 Petrobras? 0.87

00:55:04.000 Amazing!

00:55:05.000 And the Russians are founded.

00:55:06.000 It's just everywhere.

00:55:08.000 Listen, the United States, according to the industry experts so-called, claim that we have 29 billion barrels in reserve.

00:55:17.000 Hey, they've got 33 billion down there in Brazil.

00:55:20.000 Forget about Hugo Chavez and Venezuela, I'm talking about Brazil.

00:55:24.000 Did you know that the Brazilian stock market went wild with this?

00:55:28.000 The telephone companies, anything that's Brazilian went wild. 1.00

00:55:32.000 I mean, it's booming right now.

00:55:33.000 Why?

00:55:33.000 They have oil that's going to be coming out their ears.

00:55:36.000 But wait, that's not all.

00:55:38.000 Look, why do you think we're in Kosovo?

00:55:40.000 Again, just like why we're in Iraq.

00:55:42.000 Look at this news item.

00:55:45.000 Large potential Albanian, that's right there in the Kosovo area, oil and gas discovery underscores Kosovo's importance.

00:55:53.000 One reason that I read 10 years ago that they staged the invasion was because they found oil, uranium, silver, nickel.

00:56:00.000 There it is.

00:56:01.000 There is a confirmation.

00:56:02.000 Al-Qaeda helped again to take over the country.

00:56:05.000 Now let's look at the United States itself, okay?

00:56:07.000 Oh well, we have to get 60% of our oil from foreign sources.

00:56:11.000 Really?

00:56:11.000 Well look at this.

00:56:13.000 The Bakken oil formation.

00:56:15.000 Welcome to the next oil boom.

00:56:17.000 The U.S.

00:56:17.000 Geological Survey.

00:56:19.000 has just published its official results of a groundbreaking study.

00:56:24.000 Up in North Dakota, who would have believed it?

00:56:27.000 South of North Dakota and Montana, they have found a store of oil that could last America, could take care of all of our oil needs for a thousand years in South of North Dakota!

00:56:37.000 Final segment with Tex Mars and Michael Hoffman coming up.

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00:59:38.000 It is the final segment with Tex Mars.

00:59:41.000 I'm going to recap briefly what's happened with the Evergene Palfrey murder.

00:59:45.000 And that's even what mainstream television is saying.

00:59:47.000 Before we finish up with how they're having these contrived artificial scares to these techs in this key area that you're exposing.

00:59:57.000 You said you were watching Nancy Grace and she was saying this is suspicious.

01:00:00.000 We played some clips from Fox where they're saying it's suspicious. 0.89

01:00:03.000 I mean, this is getting ridiculous when the prostitute under her, who was a college professor, going to get like an extra PhD at the time, was facing six months in jail and hung herself. 0.96

01:00:14.000 Saying she was going to shoot her mouth off, and then now she's telling everybody, you know, if they kill me, you know, I was killed, I'm not going to kill myself. 0.97

01:00:23.000 Then they have this government spook type come out, who makes up all this stuff and has a history of it, saying, oh, she just called me and said she was going to kill herself. 0.67

01:00:31.000 And then the media runs with that.

01:00:33.000 I mean, they are really getting desperate.

01:00:35.000 Well, they're getting desperate, but they're also getting bold! 0.76

01:00:38.000 I mean, they're shameless!

01:00:40.000 And by the way, the Nancy Graces, the Fox News, we'll see how far they go with this.

01:00:44.000 Because this is an explosive issue, and it could go up, as you mentioned, to the McCains and the Cheneys and so forth.

01:00:52.000 I think we also need to look for Vicky Eisman.

01:00:55.000 You know, is she still available?

01:00:57.000 Is she still alive?

01:00:58.000 Where is she?

01:00:59.000 Did you hear about this weird thing?

01:01:00.000 You know, McCain's little girl that he was having a little teat-a-teat with.

01:01:05.000 Well, there was a high-level CIA operative who did things with the police chief and CIA director and was all over TV and headed up one of the regional intelligence agent groups, clubs.

01:01:17.000 And the cops reportedly started chasing him.

01:01:19.000 He ran, and then he stops.

01:01:21.000 Well, first they said he ran.

01:01:22.000 He didn't run.

01:01:23.000 He gets out of the car nicely, and they blast him.

01:01:25.000 So it turns out the first story was a lie.

01:01:27.000 And it's on video.

01:01:28.000 The cop just walks up.

01:01:29.000 The guy's there, and the cop's shooting.

01:01:30.000 And of course, we know they have hit men on the police forces in every major city, especially Houston.

01:01:35.000 That's one of the worst.

01:01:36.000 I mean, now there's a lot of weird stuff going on.

01:01:39.000 And this local Palestinian had his railings with machine guns running around in his yard, the neighbors said, and he was an activist, peaceful activist, he was a school teacher, and then they tortured him to death, and duct tape all over his body, threw it in the river, and the APD first said, oh yeah, he was murdered.

01:01:54.000 I talked to people at TV stations that heard the scanners, and the police said that too, that yeah, we thought he was murdered.

01:01:59.000 And then, no, the higher ups said, no, no, no, this is quite normal to be all tied up and sliced up.

01:02:06.000 Well, sir, it goes all the way back to the LBJ era, when a guy was shot 32 times in the back, and they said he committed suicide.

01:02:14.000 He was one of the guys that knew the truth about the voting irregularities in the Johnson election.

01:02:19.000 Well, that's when you know it's the government.

01:02:21.000 Because if it's a normal murder, they'll actually go around and maybe investigate.

01:02:25.000 But when it's a government op, you could... I mean, the cops walk up and execute this guy, and they say, no, it's no big deal.

01:02:31.000 You know Alex, I've known you for quite a while now.

01:02:32.000 I know you're precious wife, Violet.

01:02:35.000 You're a happy guy because you love to expose evil in the world.

01:02:38.000 I think it gives you happiness to do that.

01:02:40.000 And thank God for that, that kind of attitude.

01:02:43.000 And that's why, I'm going to say it right now, Alex Jones would never, ever, ever commit suicide.

01:02:49.000 No, I don't even believe that.

01:02:50.000 That's silliness. 0.97

01:02:51.000 They're going to have to torture me all the way to death. 0.96

01:02:53.000 Are you kidding?

01:02:53.000 I want to live as long as possible.

01:02:55.000 Hey, I'm enjoying what I'm doing.

01:02:57.000 I wake up with a smile.

01:02:58.000 I told my wife, I want to be resuscitated.

01:03:00.000 I want to be Darth Vader.

01:03:01.000 I mean, do not unplug me if I'm going to come over 20 years.

01:03:05.000 I told her, I want full...

01:03:08.000 Well, here's the whole thing, though.

01:03:09.000 We see with the Palfrey case.

01:03:11.000 It doesn't matter that you go on the air and tell everybody, I will never commit suicide. 0.97

01:03:16.000 They're going to kill you anyway.

01:03:17.000 Because they think they can cover it up. 1.00

01:03:19.000 They're that bold now.

01:03:21.000 Here you and I are, right here on national radio and TV, we're saying, we will never kill ourselves.

01:03:26.000 And people know that.

01:03:28.000 But if we're ever suicided, You know, they don't care! 0.99

01:03:33.000 Even though people are going to remember the fact, hey, I listened to Alex in text that day, they'll never kill themselves, and we never would!

01:03:39.000 But I mean, I made the joke last week and a month ago, I said they're going to start killing us on TV with them shooting us and say it's suicide, and now they're basically doing that in Houston!

01:03:48.000 One of the things that happens here is this does create fear.

01:03:52.000 If they can kill this Palfrey girl, who's had all this visibility, who might they kill?

01:03:58.000 I mean, if the little people of the world have no chance at all, if they could kill an Alex Jones or a Tex Morris or a Deborah Palfrey, this is the fear. 0.64

01:04:06.000 I think they may even enjoy the fact that a person like Palfrey can say, I would never kill myself, and the next thing you know, they're claiming she committed suicide.

01:04:17.000 So, I think this is another way of creating this psychological alchemy of fear in the population.

01:04:24.000 I agree.

01:04:24.000 Also, the way they hung her in the shed.

01:04:26.000 She pulls up under the little carport, little thing outside a trailer.

01:04:30.000 They stun gun her, they take her and hang her. 0.96

01:04:32.000 That's their fate, just like they killed the other girl that worked for her. 0.99

01:04:35.000 I mean, what if they killed ten of her girls?

01:04:38.000 I mean, it just gets more and more, but they do run the risk of losing all credibility.

01:04:42.000 I mean, Congress has an 11% approval rating, Bush has a 30%.

01:04:45.000 That's right, that's right.

01:04:47.000 And here again we go back to this energy situation, to the food situation, to the water situation.

01:04:53.000 What Americans need to do, what listeners need to do that are hearing us today, We need to go to the sources of truth, and we need to discover the fact that the world has plenty of oil, plenty of food, plenty of water, and we can get much more through increased technology which we have.

01:05:10.000 Right now, with the new drilling technology, let me tell you, we can go to the middle of the Atlantic and go down thousands of feet and bring up all the oil that we would ever need for 10,000 years.

01:05:22.000 And so we need to say, you're lying to us.

01:05:24.000 Just like with 9-11, we need to prove these people That they're nothing but a bunch of inveterate liars.

01:05:30.000 Now once we do that, we can turn things around.

01:05:33.000 Speaking of new drilling technology, I have a uncle, and they drilled on his property a couple months ago.

01:05:39.000 16,000 foot well.

01:05:40.000 Wow.

01:05:41.000 And I mean, it's like the spindle top.

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 I mean, it is.

01:05:45.000 That's more than three miles down, you see.

01:05:47.000 They got a 12 inch pipe on it.

01:05:50.000 Well, of course, if we do have global warming, then they can just pull those icebergs over to the coast, and there's trillions of barrels of water.

01:06:00.000 Of course, we have the resources.

01:06:03.000 People need to understand that.

01:06:04.000 We have the food.

01:06:05.000 When I was a young man, people were starving in India.

01:06:09.000 Would you believe that with new agricultural methods and technology, India now feeds itself?

01:06:15.000 And even exports of rice and such?

01:06:17.000 Which really makes the globalists mad.

01:06:19.000 Of course.

01:06:20.000 So we have incredible amounts of desert land that's being turned into arable, water-driven farmland.

01:06:31.000 There will always be enough food in the world.

01:06:34.000 By the way, I've seen a bunch of studies, and they go, those are oil company studies.

01:06:38.000 No, no, these are studies separate, you know, just studying plants.

01:06:41.000 Plants will like as much as 14 times higher carbon dioxide.

01:06:45.000 They use less water, live longer, are healthier, and they're now doing studies showing desertification is in periods with low carbon dioxide, and they're reporting, from my scores going back millions of years, but the really reliable ones, 200,000, this is the lowest level of carbon dioxide ever.

01:07:01.000 And they're saying it is massively associated with desertification.

01:07:05.000 And sure enough, because it did spike the last few decades, now it's going to start going back down, suddenly there was more of a greening.

01:07:12.000 The plants need it.

01:07:14.000 And then they create more oxygen, which they've now shown that mammals like higher levels.

01:07:18.000 We're in a starved level right now.

01:07:21.000 Well, of course, nature will take care of that on its own, without man-made solutions.

01:07:27.000 Let's go back to this oil.

01:07:29.000 I mentioned the Bakken oil formation in North and South Dakota, but there's a bigger one.

01:07:35.000 Out in the Gulf of Mexico in 2004, BP Oil, Exxon Mobil, and another one of the large multinational conglomerates, found the largest reservoir store of oil Ever found in the United States.

01:07:52.000 This dwarfs everything.

01:07:55.000 It means that America will have enough oil for thousands and thousands of years in the Gulf of Mexico.

01:08:01.000 Now when they discovered this in 2004, they said that the oil could begin coming out of that area within a decade.

01:08:10.000 Within a decade.

01:08:10.000 That means six years from now.

01:08:12.000 So you would think the oil futures would already be taking that into account.

01:08:16.000 Imagine.

01:08:16.000 Now they say that this is so much oil.

01:08:18.000 Well, they've laid most of it off limits.

01:08:21.000 They found a 600 square mile one off the coast of Louisiana, I know, in the 70s, and then they just said it was a refuge.

01:08:27.000 Well, the same thing down in Mexico.

01:08:30.000 Now, I think we're going to see some lies.

01:08:32.000 There's going to be reasons why they can't get that oil.

01:08:34.000 For example, Mexico, you know, Pemex, the oil company down there, they have been keeping that oil in the ground.

01:08:42.000 Mexico, Three times the resources we have, though.

01:08:45.000 They don't want them to have money down there.

01:08:46.000 They want the tens of millions of illegal aliens to attack and come into and invade America. 1.00

01:08:52.000 They don't want them to have money down there.

01:08:53.000 Right.

01:08:53.000 So they have bottled up their own oil, P-Mex.

01:08:56.000 Everybody has been confused, frustrated.

01:08:59.000 Why is it that they don't drill more?

01:09:01.000 Why don't they bring more out of the P-Mex oil fields? 1.00

01:09:04.000 Why don't we bring oil out of Alaska? 0.91

01:09:05.000 Same deal, Texas.

01:09:06.000 Absolutely.

01:09:06.000 We're out of time.

01:09:07.000 It is such an honor to have you here.

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01:09:21.000 Alex, powerofprophecy.com.

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01:09:54.000 That's right.

01:09:54.000 You have a free newsletter that's just amazing.

01:09:56.000 Also, you have a radio show once a week that airs, what, three or four times on WWCR?

01:10:01.000 WWCR, and of course we have it audio streaming 24-7 there on PowerOfProphecy.com.

01:10:07.000 But I want to encourage people to call 1-800-234-9673.

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01:10:13.000 We'll be glad to do it.

01:10:14.000 Give it out, and a lot of hardcore issues, all neurotically well researched.

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01:10:21.000 Give them the number again.

01:10:22.000 Okay, that's toll-free, 1-800-234-9673.

01:10:28.000 And they'll know the truth about this hoax called the Age of Scarcity.

01:10:32.000 This new reality, this new psychological alchemy that they're pushing down on us.

01:10:38.000 Do not accept it, folks!

01:10:40.000 Say no!

01:10:41.000 Just say no!

01:10:42.000 Just like 9-11, we're not going to accept the official version.

01:10:45.000 This is a planet of plenty.

01:10:48.000 It is not a planet of scarcity.

01:10:50.000 Again, powerofprophecy.com, texamars.com, the book, Days of Hunger, Days of Chaos, the GMO foods, the control of food, all of it, the coming great food shortages in America, written nine years ago, more important now than ever, the number again, Tex.

01:11:04.000 Okay, toll free, 1-800-234-9673.

01:11:06.000 Of course, we have a lot of free things there.

01:11:12.000 My newest book, by the way, is Codex Magic, and I know it's available.

01:11:15.000 Well, I don't care where they get it from at all, because it's not a matter of money.

01:11:20.000 This is a matter of life and truth.

01:11:22.000 Tex, you are the best, my friend.

01:11:23.000 Thank you.

01:11:24.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:11:24.000 All right.

01:11:25.000 We'll, for about one minute here, say bye to everybody in overdrive here.

01:11:30.000 Tex, really great having you on with us.

01:11:33.000 And I know you're a very busy man, but I'd like to every couple of months have you in here.

01:11:37.000 Hey, I'd like that.

01:11:37.000 And I want you on my radio program, too.

01:11:39.000 Because everything is coming to a head now.

01:11:41.000 We're seeing the cauldron just boiling now.

01:11:45.000 And people are desperate for truth.

01:11:47.000 And let's give it to them.

01:11:49.000 Absolutely.

01:11:49.000 God bless you, Tex Moyes.

01:11:50.000 God bless you, Alex.

01:11:52.000 He's awesome.

01:11:53.000 All right.

01:11:53.000 We'll be right back in three minutes, folks.

01:11:56.000 Hey, Jones.

01:11:58.000 Yes?

01:11:58.000 I have your guest.

01:12:00.000 Good.

01:12:00.000 Let's go to him.

01:12:01.000 Okay.

01:12:01.000 Thank you.

01:12:02.000 He was set up for 1 p.m.

01:12:04.000 Yeah, I know.

01:12:05.000 We moved him and he knows it.

01:12:07.000 Okay, so he was just holding willingly?

01:12:09.000 I guess nobody told Hoffman.

01:12:12.000 Yeah, no one told him.

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01:15:53.000 All right, we're going to have Michael Hoffman on we're going to have Michael Hoffman on with us for the next two hours.

01:16:13.000 He's been gracious enough to move back 20 minutes.

01:16:15.000 This is the Paltry Murder.

01:16:17.000 He'll be with us 20 minutes into overdrive.

01:16:19.000 I want to take our time here today and attempt to not throw in my points and added things and back up what he's saying, but really riveting, important information to understand the world we live in and how the nature of reality has been hidden from us in false...

01:16:33.000 Images and false maps have been downloaded into our minds.

01:16:37.000 He is an alternative historian, award-winning, a former AP writer based in New York.

01:16:42.000 He's written some books that have been best-sellers, very well-received.

01:16:45.000 And we're going to break down a whole host of issues, the cornucopia.

01:16:49.000 I want to start at the beginning today and go back to the roots of this, go through it all with our guest today.

01:16:55.000 Thank you for coming on with us, Mr. Hoffman.

01:16:58.000 Thank you Alex.

01:17:00.000 This is a short segment, we'll come back in a long one, but just begin wherever you like, whatever you think is most important.

01:17:05.000 If you were talking to a new audience, which most of my listeners are for you, and trying to explain it to an informed population, but also people that may not have a full understanding.

01:17:17.000 Well, I think I'd like to go back to what we discussed last time.

01:17:20.000 You raised an issue, and then I heard a commercial on the program that set off something in my mind.

01:17:26.000 And you mentioned, you said, where is it?

01:17:29.000 Who's responsible?

01:17:30.000 Where do we trace this cryptocracy, this conspiracy, up to the top?

01:17:35.000 And you said, is it a German conspiracy?

01:17:38.000 And then there was an add-on saying that we were headed to a papal America, that whenever church and state are united, that brings about tyranny.

01:17:47.000 Is it a Zionist? 0.92

01:17:48.000 Is it a... Yeah.

01:17:49.000 When I hear that, I realize that there's more confusion out there than I even realized, because I think we have to follow a trail in the West.

01:17:58.000 And what my remarks today will be about Western civilization, the cryptocracy as it operates in the West.

01:18:05.000 Now I want to be clear, I want to stop you though.

01:18:07.000 I don't have confusion about this.

01:18:10.000 We're all broken though into subgroups fighting over which group runs it with most of our collective energies and the movement spent on that.

01:18:18.000 I don't do that, you don't do that.

01:18:20.000 I understand it's a methodology that infects all the major groups, but with some core groups operating, I just want to be clear for the audience.

01:18:28.000 Well, you know, I see that when we're trying to find a way of ameliorating the cancer plague And one of the ways that the system keeps us from doing that is they plant the idea that everything causes cancer, so why bother?

01:18:42.000 When we're dealing with the assassination of President Kennedy and we're trying to bring the criminal masterminds who were behind that to justice, one of the ways they obstruct us is they plant the idea that everybody killed Kennedy.

01:18:54.000 It was the communists, it was the anti-communists, it was the CIA, it was the KGB. 0.57

01:18:59.000 So when we have these agents of confusion sowing this, some of it is honest confusion of course, not everyone is an agent, but when the agents of disinformation or confusion are out there, we can't begin to proceed from first principles.

01:19:13.000 And I find so many people are in difficulty because they're not proceeding from first principles.

01:19:18.000 So for me, the first principle is...

01:19:20.000 Or let me just say before we go into this, or there are people deliberately putting out this info.

01:19:24.000 Like, some of the Catholics run it all crowd. 0.96

01:19:27.000 They demand that I have on their grand poobah. 0.99

01:19:29.000 But I've researched what he says.

01:19:31.000 It's just made up.

01:19:32.000 He believes that Rosicrucians use magic to drop A-bombs.

01:19:36.000 He believes the earth is on a string and that the universe orbits it.

01:19:40.000 I mean, these people, some of them are so kooky, but they demand that you agree with them, and so I just want to be clear that I don't agree with a lot of the groups that are out there saying this group or that group runs it all.

01:19:52.000 That's my point.

01:19:53.000 I see.

01:19:54.000 Well, and by the way, who are you referring to when you say the Grand Poobah of the Catholics?

01:20:00.000 Well, no, no, no, of the Catholics run it all crowd. 1.00

01:20:02.000 I don't even want to say his name.

01:20:04.000 It's just, I don't even think most his minions know that he believes all this insanity.

01:20:08.000 Right, because one of the things I noticed in the ad is they said they associated, they created a proprietary relationship between church and state and the papacy.

01:20:20.000 And actually, the United States of America was formed in revolt against an Anglican church in this state, which had united in Great Britain... Well, let's be clear.

01:20:29.000 Let's be clear.

01:20:30.000 I don't endorse the ads on this network unless you hear my voice endorsing it.

01:20:33.000 I have no control over that.

01:20:35.000 But go ahead.

01:20:36.000 Well, and so, I mean, just very briefly, the Anglicans were operating a union between church and state, and one of the reasons I know that is when I was researching the biography of the first Roman Catholic Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Roger B. Taney, And he talked about when he was a child, he was banned from going to Catholic school.

01:20:57.000 He was born just slightly before the onset of the American Revolution.

01:21:01.000 And once the American Revolution was a success, almost immediately, his parents were allowed to send him to the school of his choice.

01:21:09.000 So, it's just one example of the anomalies of history, and either we're accurate... Stay there!

01:21:13.000 Stay there! 0.92

01:21:14.000 We're going to talk during the break, and we're going to continue on the other side.

01:21:16.000 Stay with me.

01:21:18.000 We're on the march.

01:21:20.000 The Empire's on the run.

01:21:21.000 I'm going to keep Mr. Hopman up.

01:21:23.000 Mr. Hopman, what we're going to do is, I'm going to skip some of the breaks.

01:21:27.000 Now AM and FM's won't hear you.

01:21:29.000 Shortwave won't hear you.

01:21:30.000 But huge internet audiences and huge internet TV audiences will.

01:21:34.000 And the archiving of some of these breaks will let you break.

01:21:37.000 Some breaks we're going to talk straight through.

01:21:40.000 So, I want to continue the discussion during some of the breaks, okay?

01:21:45.000 Okay, Alex.

01:21:46.000 Great.

01:21:46.000 And guys at the network, please close your mic.

01:21:48.000 Okay.

01:21:50.000 Now, I don't want to make this too confusing from the start.

01:21:52.000 You can talk about whatever group you want.

01:21:54.000 Say what you truly believe.

01:21:56.000 Feel free to say whatever you want, Mr. Hoffman.

01:21:57.000 I want to be clear about that.

01:21:58.000 But I was confused in the last segment about ads, and then it clicked in my mind about some Catholics Run It All ad that runs on the network.

01:22:08.000 Of course, I'm not a Catholic.

01:22:09.000 I'm not a Catholic apologist.

01:22:10.000 I just think it's exaggerated, their power.

01:22:12.000 I think you're part of the New World Order, like every other big thing.

01:22:15.000 So, let me just get some kind of idea, and this is on air right now, because I haven't done a pre-interview with you.

01:22:21.000 I don't really do those.

01:22:23.000 Tell me what it is you want to cover in the two hours we've got.

01:22:26.000 Well, I would like to cover my main thesis right now.

01:22:29.000 I'm just finishing up.

01:22:30.000 I'm indexing a nearly 1,000 page book on Judaism called Judaism Discovered.

01:22:36.000 And so obviously that would be the source and focus of what I want to talk about today, although I realize I've written other books and I know you're interested in the epistemology of the cryptocracy as I've elucidated it in my book, Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare.

01:22:51.000 That's the system they use, and my only point is that school of thought is used by others, though you could argue they're the masters in the primitive group, the strand that binds it all.

01:23:02.000 And so I'd like to hear your view and your research on that.

01:23:04.000 With two hours, then let's just get into the Judaism first for an hour, and then let's do an hour on all of their different methods and sorceries. 0.88

01:23:16.000 Right, and the other thing I'd like to say to you, Alex, is feel free to challenge me If you think that there's something I'm saying that's erroneous, I find that it makes for a much more interesting conversation.

01:23:28.000 Oh, don't worry.

01:23:28.000 I'm going to have to physically restrain myself not to add points and jump in.

01:23:32.000 But I have to tell you, sir, I researched the stuff you're putting out, the information you're putting out.

01:23:36.000 And I think on the whole it's accurate only because I'm somewhat of a history buff in my own right.

01:23:41.000 It's so wide and deep that we're all novices really, but I've just found so much of what I've read you've written that I already discovered separately in multiple other texts that weren't even political in nature.

01:23:53.000 So I have to agree with your overall view and analysis.

01:23:57.000 I may disagree in the approach to the public, and also I believe that the globalists are also controlling much of the anti-Judaism movement and putting it out in a way that actually only empowers some of the more dangerous varieties there. 0.57

01:24:12.000 And of course you know the old European tool of using some of the Zionists as their fronts, before it was known as Zionist, going back a thousand years ago. 0.53

01:24:20.000 So I believe it's kind of a hybrid amalgamation.

01:24:23.000 But listen, you've got the floor, we're going live right now.

01:24:26.000 Yeah.

01:24:26.000 Here we go.

01:24:27.000 Here we go.

01:24:27.000 Here we go, sir.

01:24:28.000 Every move the New World Order makes, every breath they take, we'll be there.

01:24:43.000 Covering every subject, every issue, going to the Veritas.

01:24:49.000 Trying to find the truth.

01:24:51.000 Trying to question the box within a box that we all live in.

01:24:56.000 Alright, Michael Hoffman is our guest.

01:24:59.000 Michael, before we go any further, tell us in a nutshell a little bit about yourself, your awakening for a minute or two, your website, your books, and then we're going to go for two hours pretty much straight here with only a few breaks.

01:25:10.000 Go ahead.

01:25:11.000 The website is www.revisionisthistory.org and we're located in North Idaho, PO Box 849, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, 83816.

01:25:25.000 I was fortunate enough to have been born to a revisionist historian grandfather.

01:25:29.000 He was a lay historian.

01:25:31.000 He wasn't a professional, but he had a great deal of skepticism about the mainline story of history.

01:25:38.000 So I was basically sitting on his knee from a young age, hearing him talking about things like, for example, that Joseph P. Kennedy had stolen The election in 1960 for his son through the Chicago Mafia and I was hearing this practically as a toddler so I suppose I've been predestined for this line of inquiry for being a skeptic for always questioning and doubting and as John Milton said

01:26:07.000 In the 17th century, give me the right to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience above all other liberties, and that's what I've tried to live and what I've tried to extend to others, Alex.

01:26:18.000 Now let me just throw out something here.

01:26:19.000 It's become a thought crime to say that CO2 is a deadly poison.

01:26:25.000 to say that sodium chloride isn't deadly poison.

01:26:29.000 It has become a thought crime to even question official stories, official history, but questioning Debra Jean Palfrey's clear murder, when we now have another eerie flashback.

01:26:41.000 D.C.

01:26:41.000 Madam said, I'll never want my life to end in suicide.

01:26:44.000 She not only said that here on this show, in May 2007 for an interview for Carol Joyt, host of Q&A Cafe TV show, Palfrey faced criminal indictment for prostitution, but for Palfrey, one thing was crystal clear during the interview.

01:26:56.000 She would not end her life by hanging herself.

01:26:58.000 As Brandy Britton, one of her employers had, clearly murdered as well.

01:27:02.000 I don't want to be like her.

01:27:04.000 I don't want to end up like that.

01:27:06.000 So another source, we're questioning history.

01:27:09.000 Within one hour of her being found, official story, open and shut, she committed suicide in the garage, hanging herself.

01:27:16.000 Absolute bull.

01:27:17.000 So that's questioning history, and that now is a thought crime they want to arrest you for.

01:27:22.000 So we have to stand up against this now, no matter how painful or how demonized we get, because even if you disagree with ideas you hear here, you need to fight for the right for people to say them and have them.

01:27:31.000 Okay, Mr. Hoffman, go ahead.

01:27:35.000 Well, and this particular questionable death that you're referring to reminds me as far back as Secretary of Defense James Forrestal, who a lot of us believe was tossed out of a window and they claim that that was suicide.

01:27:47.000 And of course the secrets and the knowledge that he was sitting on were absolutely cataclysmic in terms of what he might have or could have revealed.

01:27:54.000 So they certainly have a long history of doing this, but I'm not privy to the details of this particular case.

01:28:01.000 But, um, Lately, since the year 2000, I have been consumed with my research on Judaism and on Zionism and the Talmudic religion, because I feel that it's the key to understanding the cryptocracy as a whole.

01:28:17.000 And during the break, you had mentioned to me that you also feel there are some aspects of anti-Judaism which are problematic, and I would agree with that insofar as I believe that The Cryptocracy plants their own Agence Provocateur inside various groups and then they take extreme positions which actually benefit Judaism. 0.99

01:28:39.000 One of the prime ways that they benefit Judaism is Whenever you have race hate injected into this discussion. 0.96

01:28:46.000 And the Zionist documents going back 200 years say that it compacts their group and then they feed on the lower Jews beneath them and the Jews think that their leaders are taking care of them when Israel admittedly has been caught doing bombings in Baghdad 60-something years ago, bombings in southern Spain, all of these things to drive Jews back to their homeland. 0.88

01:29:09.000 Well, Judaics are the first victims of Judaism. 1.00

01:29:14.000 That's something that has to be understood, is that the freedom movement that I'm leading here with regard to Judaism is first an attempt to liberate individual Judaics from Judaism. 0.99

01:29:25.000 And so you disagree with the main line of the crazies that say Jews are really Neanderthals and crazies that go around stirring up trouble and making people look stupid that talk about this. 0.98

01:29:36.000 You disagree. 1.00

01:29:37.000 You're saying you don't believe they're inherently devil-seed.

01:29:40.000 Yeah, this reptilian idea and all of that, what it really means is it means that Jesus Christ was wrong and that people can't be converted. 0.96

01:29:50.000 If someone is inherently the seed of the devil, all you can do is exterminate them.

01:29:54.000 You cannot convert them.

01:29:56.000 So you can see the occult root to that, and you can see the black evil that's behind that. 0.99

01:30:01.000 Well, that's my point, is that, you know, fifteen years studying this, every time I met somebody who said it was the Jews, the Jews, they were lying, backstabbing, crazy, lying scum, who would always attack me, and then I'm like, my God, the people that believe this must be bad, because everybody I meet is, but I guess they're provocateurs, or crazies, or losers who want to blame a group, but just because they're doing that doesn't mean This isn't a predatory group out of control. 0.99

01:30:29.000 Well, it's a predatory ideology which is out of control, but there's another factor here, and that is, who is a Jew? 0.99

01:30:35.000 I mean, people run around calling themselves Jews, and in John Chapter 8, Jesus said that they had as their father the Father of Life, so why do we believe them? 1.00

01:30:46.000 All of the genealogical records were destroyed when the Romans conquered Jerusalem in A.D.

01:30:51.000 70, so we only have the word of these rabbinic liars to say that they're descended from King David or Abraham.

01:31:00.000 You and I may have more Abrahamic blood in our veins than they do, but my question and my challenge to them is prove it. 1.00

01:31:07.000 Prove that you're descended from Judah. 0.94

01:31:09.000 Well, they've done the DNA test and they know that about 82% of people claiming to be Jews are actually Central Eastern European, um, Khazars.

01:31:17.000 And that's, people call me all the time like they found some new secret.

01:31:20.000 I remember reading that when I was 10 years old in Mainline History.

01:31:23.000 Right.

01:31:23.000 So what that also does though, it's interesting because it absolves these interlopers from actually being the biblical Jews.

01:31:32.000 They don't have any kind of a curse on them, although I believe even when we are talking about actual Israel, and certainly there is a remnant of Israel on the earth, as scripture says, but that curse was only on the few generations there, the early generations that would have been implicated in the death of Christ.

01:31:49.000 It certainly wouldn't correspond to any actual biological Jew who was alive today.

01:31:54.000 But this racial issue, Alex, one of the things that we have to understand here is, is that the rabbis ...are very keen on keeping Judaics inside the ranks. 0.84

01:32:05.000 So they have to use the Hitlers, the Nazis, and the haters to scare the Judaic people back into the fold of Judaism. 0.90

01:32:13.000 Because one of the things that Judaism teaches in the Talmud is, is that no matter how nice, how good, how benevolent a Gentile is towards you, he's only doing it for ulterior, cynical motives. 0.98

01:32:25.000 He can never really love you for yourself.

01:32:28.000 And a corollary from that, if I may expand on this, is the idea that if someone attacks the Israeli government, if they say they're genocidal, they're instituting a holocaust against the Palestinians, if they say, like Walt and Mershimer do in their book on the Israeli lobby, that there's inordinate power and control of the United States government on the part of the Israeli lobby,

01:32:53.000 The reaction of the main hardcore of Orthodox Judaism and Zionism is to say, you know, that's inherently anti-Semitic.

01:33:02.000 You don't really have a valid point.

01:33:04.000 What you're motivated by is hatred and bias towards us.

01:33:09.000 And of course... Exactly!

01:33:11.000 I mean, if you... and people always say, well, I don't hate Jews, I just hate Zionists. 0.98

01:33:16.000 But now those guys have all flipped and are saying, I do hate Jews, it is the Jews. 1.00

01:33:22.000 Well then if they're saying that, Alex, they're falling right into the rabbi's trap. 0.96

01:33:26.000 I know, I've read the official documents they wrote where they said, isn't it wonderful, we'll get people to persecute us, we'll even commit horrible crimes and let the Gentiles find out so they'll persecute us so we can then have our little slaves under us and not letting Hitler Kick the Jews out saying no, they have to come to Palestine, they've got to pay us money. 0.90

01:33:45.000 One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Germany. 1.00

01:33:49.000 I mean, you know, these sickening evil statements, these types of things, all I'm saying is it's a lot more sophisticated.

01:33:56.000 Let me digress and then we'll get back into this.

01:33:59.000 Why is there such an obsession with Germanic-ness by the modern Zionist?

01:34:06.000 Why do we see the Rothschilds funding different German institutes of eugenics?

01:34:12.000 Why do we see them funding it now?

01:34:13.000 Why are they intermarried with European Germanics? 0.95

01:34:18.000 Why are they supporting Schwarzenegger wearing his Nazi belt buckle in public?

01:34:23.000 I mean, certainly you see that there's a weird, satanic wedding going on behind the scenes, or you disagree with that?

01:34:31.000 Well, I would say that there's some of that going on, but it's a complex issue because it's more behind the scenes, overtly in public.

01:34:40.000 They have impressed upon the German people the mark of Cain, a hereditary stigma Which is a form of mental colonization. 0.96

01:34:48.000 The Germans internalized this.

01:34:49.000 They have one of the lowest birth rates and highest suicide rates. 0.88

01:34:52.000 And they did that to blacks, too, with the transatlantic slave trade.

01:34:55.000 Well, they did that.

01:34:56.000 They had them internalize that they weren't humans or they were bad.

01:34:59.000 They were Cain or Ham, right?

01:35:02.000 Yeah, as we talked about in the last program, they gave them this notion that they were hereditary slaves.

01:35:09.000 And that that was a part of a taint there.

01:35:12.000 I'm getting an echo on the line here all of a sudden.

01:35:14.000 I don't know if that's just at my end or your end.

01:35:17.000 We're not getting it on the network.

01:35:18.000 Network, are you getting that hum?

01:35:20.000 Nope, nothing.

01:35:20.000 I'm not hearing anything, sir.

01:35:22.000 Okay, great.

01:35:22.000 I'll just proceed then.

01:35:24.000 And so what I would say is that I see a cleavage between this The idea that there is sort of a secret linkage between the Germanic elite and the elite of the cryptocracy.

01:35:36.000 Well, let me stop you right there.

01:35:37.000 I mean, 80 plus billion dollars in the last four years from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation with Warren Buffett, and they're in Africa injecting them with HIV.

01:35:46.000 They're poisoning them.

01:35:46.000 They've been caught.

01:35:47.000 It's in the documents.

01:35:48.000 They've been caught carrying out eugenics.

01:35:50.000 I mean, that I would call Hitler-esque. 0.99

01:35:54.000 But if the Judaics run it, I guess they want all the blacks and Asians dead too, or what? 1.00

01:35:59.000 Well, that's a little bit outside my competence in terms of discussing this issue at hand. 0.97

01:36:04.000 But I mean, that's what I'm saying, though, is that the Darwinistic view, the Francis Galton view, I mean, when I get to the head of the Human Genome Project, Dr. Watson, saying blacks basically weren't human.

01:36:17.000 You know, he's a white guy, and he's running the Human Genome Project, running around saying blacks aren't human.

01:36:22.000 I'm saying, you know, I understand in the media and everywhere else you can see the Zionists, but I'm saying, when I get into science, and I get into foundations, and I get into this, I mean, it's Hitlerian, it's eugenics. 0.99

01:36:33.000 I'm saying I've really found that, and I've really found Zionists everywhere, too. 0.99

01:36:37.000 So what I'm saying is... It's Hitlerian, but Hitler is an anomaly in terms of German civilization. 0.81

01:36:43.000 It would be like saying that George Bush Is a typical product of our American civilization... No, but when I say Germanic, I don't mean even the German people. 0.99

01:36:50.000 I'm talking about Germanic occultism.

01:36:54.000 And I'm not attacking Germans, I'm saying that there is a relish. 1.00

01:36:57.000 The eugenicists, the British eugenicists, Rothschild-funded eugenics institutions worship the Germanic form. 0.63

01:37:06.000 Well, I would say... There's something else here, something more here is what I'm saying.

01:37:11.000 I don't see any larger role in the occult for the Germans than for any other of the European people.

01:37:17.000 But you know, Germanic means wider.

01:37:19.000 I mean, Germanic is the main fulcrum in that entire region, even into northern France.

01:37:25.000 Well, they certainly always wanted to control the Germans, but prior to the rise of Hitler, Germany and German civilization was a paragon of the music of Bach and Beethoven and The great philosophy and the advances in religion and science, which we owe so much to the Germans.

01:37:44.000 Pharmacologicals, everything.

01:37:47.000 I mean, there is a role in the early Ordo Templi Orientis of the O.T.O.

01:37:52.000 There is a German connection there, and there's a German connection to skull and bones.

01:37:56.000 But if we were to talk about the British, and again, that wouldn't be an indictment of the O.T.O.

01:38:00.000 I'm saying the British are the absolute heart. 0.99

01:38:02.000 I'm just saying, why do they, as a fetish, You know, get into the Gutter Dammerung and all of that.

01:38:08.000 Look, it doesn't matter.

01:38:09.000 The point is... Well, you know, it's interesting though, Alex, because they say that people who are in the know tell me that when you go to these collection catalogs for Nazi memorabilia and Nazi relics, that the number of Judaic customers on there is astonishing.

01:38:26.000 No, no, that's... And perhaps you use the appropriate word, perhaps it's a fetish.

01:38:31.000 Yeah, no, I'm just, I mean, I really study this stuff.

01:38:33.000 I really want the truth.

01:38:35.000 And I'm just saying, I've knocked down the hidden doors.

01:38:37.000 I've gone, burrowed into the deepest pits.

01:38:40.000 And I mean, I find a bunch of weird, druidic, don't even call it Germanic.

01:38:46.000 I see all of Northern Europe and, you know, Britannia as Germanic.

01:38:51.000 Visigothian, whatever you want to call it.

01:38:53.000 So I think when I use the term German, I'm not talking about the last, you know, Bismarckian Imperial Germany.

01:38:58.000 But look, I digress.

01:38:59.000 Just, you know what?

01:39:00.000 I may even have to go out of the room, because this stuff gets me thinking so much.

01:39:04.000 I'll just let you finish.

01:39:04.000 Just go ahead.

01:39:06.000 Well, Hitler used a good luck symbol, the swastika, which prior to the rise of his regime was always universally associated with good luck. 0.79

01:39:15.000 All it is is the symbol of the sun in motion.

01:39:17.000 You put a cross inside of a wheel, you knock four segments of it out, and it looks like a running man or an intimation of the sun.

01:39:27.000 A pagan symbol always associated generically with good luck and he twisted it into this horrible thing. 0.91

01:39:34.000 I think in general there is a magnetic archetype associated with the northern European model both racially and in terms of some of the things that we see in our movies and culture as far as these associations with the polar regions and with the sword and sorcery epics.

01:39:52.000 So it wouldn't surprise me if at some level in the occult or heavy metal music, or even at the higher levels that you're insinuating are operant here, that they are mining that, so to speak.

01:40:05.000 But what I can tell you from my own research, what my opinion is, is that far above that and far beyond that is the Kabbalah, the Talmud, and the veritable worship, not of the German or the Aryan or any archetype along those lines, but the worship of the Judaic male as personified by but the worship of the Judaic male as personified by the rabbi.

01:40:24.000 because Judaism does teach...

01:40:27.000 Oh no, I mean there's no doubt that Madonna and all of it, I mean it's everywhere, the symbolism, no it's dominant, I agree.

01:40:33.000 Well, Madonna is a, I hesitate to use the word witch because of all of the inquisitorial connotations of that word, so I would call her a magician, and I would say that her recent 30 minute show in New York City Had all the hallmarks of a cabalistic open air ritual that was both broadcast on the internet and also much to do was made of it in New York City.

01:40:56.000 Well she says it is!

01:40:57.000 She says she's doing this! 1.00

01:40:59.000 She's a chicken-necked coward is what she is. 1.00

01:41:01.000 These people just radiate weakness, but go ahead. 0.99

01:41:04.000 And she's also a kind of a mirror image of a biblical figure because she calls herself Madonna and I guess that's her birth name.

01:41:11.000 Jezebel! 0.82

01:41:13.000 Well, that's her actual identity would be Jezebel, but what we find is, for example, in Judaism they say, well, you Gentiles can be saved and you can be part of the covenant if you become a Noahide. 0.90

01:41:25.000 But actually, they're not talking about the biblical Noah any more than Madonna is a representative of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

01:41:32.000 She's the exact opposite.

01:41:34.000 And the Talmudic Noah is the exact opposite of the Biblical Noah. 0.99

01:41:39.000 So all these poor dupes and suckers who are joining Judaism... There's two ways to be a Gentile and join Judaism. 1.00

01:41:46.000 One is through Holocaustianity and going down to the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C.

01:41:52.000 and believing everything that's there and believing that only one people on Earth suffered a Holocaust.

01:41:58.000 That's one Enroden. 0.73

01:42:00.000 And the other way is through the Noahide, but you're not following the biblical Noah, you're following the Noah of the Talmud.

01:42:07.000 But also people that quote join it are only porch masons, or porch, that's what goes back to Solomon.

01:42:14.000 We'll be right back.

01:42:16.000 Actually, we're going to skip this break for InfoWars.com stream listeners.

01:42:20.000 go to that stream, you'll be able to hear this break, and then we'll come back for everybody else on the other side in three minutes.

01:42:25.000 Okay, Mr. Hoffman, continue.

01:42:30.000 Yes, and so in the case of the Noahide and the Noah of the Talmud, the Talmud regards Noah as a drunk and a very unsavory character, and what you really have is you have a trap for Gentiles. 0.97

01:42:45.000 They're going to...

01:42:47.000 It's like the old story where Dracula couldn't enter your home unless you invited him in.

01:42:52.000 He has to trick you to invite him in, but let me stop you there.

01:42:56.000 Let's just, when we come back, start at the beginning so people understand this about how the Torah is different than the Talmud and the Zohar and all those.

01:43:05.000 And how they're separate, because they're hearing this going, no, no, the Bible says no is good.

01:43:10.000 They need to understand two separate deals.

01:43:12.000 You've got a Middle Eastern group, you've got a European group that just picked up on things the Jews picked up in Babylon and of course in Egypt, and then try to explain that to people.

01:43:22.000 Yeah, good point.

01:43:23.000 But just go ahead for now, because we're going straight through.

01:43:26.000 Okay, well, did you want me to continue with the Noah Hyde thing?

01:43:29.000 Yeah, go ahead on that, and then let's come back to the full audience and get into the separation here.

01:43:34.000 Go ahead.

01:43:35.000 Alright, and you'll let me know when we're addressing the full audience.

01:43:37.000 Yeah, we'll be addressing in two minutes.

01:43:38.000 Go ahead.

01:43:39.000 Okay.

01:43:40.000 So, basically, the Talmud is bringing people, it's using people to think, these poor Christian people who think, Here's the Holy Blood of Israel flowing the veins of these rabbis, and I've got to get amalgamated with them, and the way to do that is to associate with this Noahide group. 0.93

01:44:00.000 And then just like you asked Dracula, oh, won't you come into my home?

01:44:05.000 And having done that, then he has a certain power over you.

01:44:09.000 So you join the Noahide group, and whereas right now you and I are basically trying to expose Uh, these evils, but when you actually sign on for the evil, then of course you lose a certain amount of your volition and your cognition, and it's that much easier to snatch your soul and control you, and that's what the Noahide operation is. 0.64

01:44:30.000 It has nothing to do with the scriptures whatsoever, but people don't understand that there's this mirror world operating in Judaism.

01:44:37.000 Well, sure.

01:44:38.000 I mean, that's the Pastor Hagee, where in the final equation, Jesus isn't the Messiah, we're all bad, hail Israel, they are the God-men.

01:44:46.000 Yeah, Rabbi Hagee and his Ku Klux Judaism are really, it's such a joke that you would laugh if you didn't feel like crying. 1.00

01:44:55.000 I mean, you don't really know what to do.

01:44:56.000 Well, I mean, I've seen him on tape go, I praise God every time a Palestinian child is shot because another devil has been dealt with. 0.96

01:45:04.000 I mean, he is just such a little fake. 0.78

01:45:07.000 And Jesus did not come to be the Messiah.

01:45:10.000 He was a rebel against the Lord's people and was dealt with.

01:45:14.000 But you know what?

01:45:15.000 He was forced to pull that book.

01:45:18.000 Yeah, but can you imagine that John McCain maintains respectability even though he's allied with him with certain qualifications?

01:45:25.000 I know, it's incredible.

01:45:26.000 We're going back live right now.

01:45:27.000 Here we go.

01:45:31.000 Okay, um... Be clear, though, about the separate groups.

01:45:36.000 Like, you have the Torah, which is the Old Testament, which is literally 180 degrees from what comes later.

01:45:43.000 I mean, let's start at the beginning here.

01:45:46.000 Y'all, well, you know, we're dealing with master deceivers, and so there's a counterfeit.

01:45:51.000 We were talking about that while at the commercial break, how it's a mirror world, a mirror of the scripture, and a mirror of biblical patriarchs and biblical figures.

01:46:02.000 And so we will hear Orthodox rabbis say, well, we're Torah true.

01:46:06.000 We have to follow the Torah.

01:46:07.000 We have the Torah.

01:46:09.000 And in fact, the rabbis tell those who are part of Judaism, you can't understand the Bible without the mediation of our interpretation of it.

01:46:18.000 Protestants don't seem to have a problem with that.

01:46:21.000 They have a huge problem with the idea that the Pope claims to be a mediator of Scripture, but when the rabbis make that claim, they seem to be very apathetic about that.

01:46:33.000 I don't understand that, but anyhow, Let's be clear about the Torah.

01:46:39.000 When they say that they're Torah-true, they mean that they're Talmud-true. 0.91

01:46:43.000 Because there is the Torah Shibik-Tav, which is the written Torah, and the Torah Shibel-Pah, which is the oral Torah.

01:46:54.000 And they say that is the real law, not the old law.

01:46:59.000 Well, yeah, what they say is there is a dual law, that Moses was given two laws on Mount Sinai.

01:47:04.000 The oral law, which became the province of the rabbis, and which was only written down after Israel crucified its Messiah, and then really became degenerate.

01:47:13.000 Prior to that, it had been a toss-up which way they were going to go, and so they had never sufficiently lost the grace to commit this evil to writing.

01:47:22.000 And Moses, when he actually went after him, throwing the tablets, he was going after this group, is what a lot of people say.

01:47:28.000 Well, I certainly think that it must have started around the time of the Golden Calf.

01:47:33.000 Well, they were bringing back the Egyptian secret knowledge they'd found, and he was saying, no, no.

01:47:38.000 So it's that same group always running right next to the other.

01:47:41.000 Yes.

01:47:42.000 As we mentioned in the last broadcast, the Talmud says ten measures of sorcery were given to the earth, nine were given to Egypt, and one to the rest of humanity.

01:47:50.000 So they certainly see Egypt as a source of magic and sorcery.

01:47:54.000 Of course, officially they condemn Egypt, but actually Secretly, they have tapped into that power, and they actually pay obeisance to it. 0.88

01:48:03.000 And as you said last time you were on, or as the late Arthur C. Clarke said, a Texas Instruments calculator would be the highest order of magic to somebody just 200 years ago.

01:48:13.000 So when we use the term magic sorcery, that's ways to manipulate populations, lie, spin things, and then they just package it in a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.

01:48:22.000 Go ahead.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, because leftist intellectuals could accuse us of mystifying the discussion by bringing in magic, but actually they're the ones who are mystifying when they refuse, when they use this agnosticism to refuse to recognize how technology operates.

01:48:38.000 And in the last program I mentioned that Arthur C. Clarke, his famous statement was that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

01:48:49.000 So that's what we're talking about.

01:48:50.000 We're talking about a science Which even certain scientists have been able to cover up and mock and direct our attention away from by claiming, oh, that's just silly fairy tales.

01:49:00.000 But it isn't.

01:49:01.000 And Arthur C. Clarke, who was a pioneer and prophet of the satellites that we now have operating around our Earth, and a key agent of the cryptocracy... He's the inventor of it, Glenn.

01:49:12.000 So he's our source for that.

01:49:14.000 So you see Alex, we have this counterfeit.

01:49:16.000 We have the Noahide Covenant, but actually it has nothing to do with the biblical Noah.

01:49:21.000 It's the Noah of the Talmud and of the post-Talmudic text. 0.81

01:49:26.000 Which is what the Torah tells us is that this group will always have counterfeits.

01:49:31.000 They're masters at doing that.

01:49:33.000 Sure, Revelation 2.9 talks about, I know them who say they are Jews and are not, and are of the synagogue of Satan, so right there we're being warned of a counterfeit. 0.75

01:49:44.000 Jesus, in the key book of John, in chapter 8, talking about the counterfeit, and that's a key theme there in chapter 8, because it pertains directly to what we're dealing with now, where they say, we have Abraham's blood in our veins, we are the children of Abraham, and Jesus acknowledges their biological Pedigree.

01:50:03.000 But at the same time, he says you can't have Abraham as your father.

01:50:07.000 Stay there! 0.92

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01:52:21.000 Well, one of the things that I think is important to understand, Alex, is that we need counterintelligence and we need to recruit among the Judaics themselves. 0.96

01:52:30.000 And that's one of the reasons why I've been able to profit in my research has been that I have had Judaic informants inside the yeshivas and the kolels who assist me with my research. 0.91

01:52:43.000 And I want to encourage that.

01:52:44.000 I wouldn't be able to benefit from the details they've given me.

01:52:48.000 If they thought that I was a racist hater, and it feeds into the Rabbi's image of the Gentile and of the Christian, if we in any way reinforce that image.

01:52:58.000 Now, what I wanted to do was, I wanted to give you the actual teaching that Talmudic children receive in Orthodox Judaism.

01:53:06.000 This is a phrase that's repeated to them throughout their childhood, and I'll give it to you now.

01:53:10.000 Halakha hi beya doa shi asav sonai leil yakav.

01:53:15.000 And translated that means, it is a given law.

01:53:18.000 It is known that Esau hates Jacob.

01:53:22.000 Now they see themselves as Esau, and we are Jacob.

01:53:25.000 And what they're being told from the time they're little children is, is that they are irrationally hated just because they are Judaic.

01:53:36.000 Not because they mistreat the Palestinians, not because they have inordinate influence over Congress.

01:53:43.000 Now, if we, in our information campaign, fulfill that stereotype as so many people in the right-wing and the neo-Nazi movement, and even in the Arab world, have done and are doing, and are encouraged to do by Ajahn Provocateurs, we are then doing the work of the rabbis. 0.77

01:54:01.000 Because we need to convert rabbis, and we need to convert Judaics. 1.00

01:54:05.000 Judaics who are listening to me right now, Jesus loves you.

01:54:09.000 He wants to free you from these burdens, this terrible yoke that the Talmudists have put upon you. 1.00

01:54:17.000 Well it's the same thing like our government, and that's the same mindset, you see the same paradigm, the same signature.

01:54:23.000 The government's going to keep you safe from the terrorists, really the government's behind it.

01:54:26.000 The government's going to take your rights to keep you safe.

01:54:29.000 No, they're not keeping us safe. 0.96

01:54:30.000 They're hurting us and sucking off of us. 0.99

01:54:32.000 It's the same group with the leadership using their mind control system on their own people. 0.98

01:54:38.000 I mean, you already said that twice, but I want to make that clear.

01:54:42.000 Go ahead.

01:54:43.000 Well, because what they're saying is there is a racial war to the hilt, and it's irremediable.

01:54:49.000 There's nothing that they can do to change their race, and therefore, since they describe all of us, Or the majority of us as being racial haters of them, you then have this chasm that can't be bridged.

01:55:03.000 And so if we actually take that position as so many in the past have, then we're shooting ourselves in the feet.

01:55:09.000 So it's very, very important to understand that we're dealing here with an ideology, with a spiritual force.

01:55:17.000 And for example, this spiritual force, as you know on your program and have brought up many times, operates within Freemasonry, and they're the most blue-eyed, blonde-haired, Aryan Gentiles they can be. 0.99

01:55:29.000 We have evil in every race and every nation.

01:55:33.000 But because of the nature of the Talmud and the Kabbalah, that evil is centered on this notion of the racial supremacy of the Judaic as personified by the Rabbi. 0.78

01:55:46.000 Which is in the Talmud, which is in the Zohar, which is in all the books, and then it's in Encyclopedia Judaica, but we're not supposed to talk about that.

01:55:54.000 And we're actually dealing with the source of racism in the world as a whole, because it's not in the Bible.

01:56:01.000 And it certainly is not in Islam.

01:56:03.000 Islam may have many problems and many errors, and there's no question about that, but Islam does not practice racism.

01:56:12.000 The most searing and ferocious and savage racism on the earth today is the racism of the Talmud, and then it's practiced and implemented in the Zionist Israeli state. 0.87

01:56:23.000 Okay, stay there.

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01:56:30.000 Okay, now I want to debate with you a little bit here.

01:56:32.000 There's no doubt it says all that and does that and it's wrong, but then I look at every culture, or even one African tribe across the river from the other, they'll say the other tribe is bad, we're the best, you know, they worship the snake god, we worship the monkey god, we're better, or we worship the water buffalo god.

01:56:47.000 You've got, you know, groups are always, I mean, everybody says our team's the best, or, you know, folks from East Texas are better than North Texans.

01:56:54.000 I mean, we're all tribal. 0.97

01:56:56.000 I mean, everybody says the other group isn't human and deserves to die.

01:56:59.000 I mean, that's what the Aztecs would say when they were wiping out, you know, neighboring native tribes with sacrifice.

01:57:04.000 I mean, you're not making the claim, though, as some do, that all evil and all racism emanates out of one place, are you?

01:57:12.000 Well, what I would say is that this tribalism that you're talking about is part of human nature.

01:57:17.000 Now, I'm a Christian, so I'm supposed to be unnatural. 0.99

01:57:20.000 I mean, that's what a Christian is in the sense that, for example... But you're saying out of the three major faiths that spring out of Abraham, you're saying the one that has the new text, the Zohar and the rest of it, the Talmud, that has codified these ideas, you're saying it comes from the Judaics.

01:57:38.000 Well, of course, I don't believe that Judaism springs from Abraham.

01:57:41.000 I don't see it as an Abraham. 0.76

01:57:44.000 Okay, well what was Moses then?

01:57:46.000 You wouldn't call that Judaism?

01:57:48.000 No, that's not Judaism. 0.78

01:57:50.000 Judaism didn't get started until this oral law was written down.

01:57:53.000 I understand.

01:57:54.000 So what would you call him?

01:57:55.000 An Israelite? 0.86

01:57:56.000 I would call him an Israelite. 0.50

01:57:57.000 I would say the only Old Testament religion on earth is Christianity. 0.63

01:58:03.000 Well, I agree with that.

01:58:04.000 It's definitely the root.

01:58:07.000 If we see that they have a patrimony to Abraham, then we're beginning to see through their distorted lens.

01:58:13.000 Well, yeah, like you said earlier, that thing they said is that Abraham's bad.

01:58:17.000 That's insane, because... Noah's bad.

01:58:20.000 Yeah, but before that, you were saying what they say as kids about how they're the one group and they're against Abraham.

01:58:26.000 Well, no, they say that they are Jacob.

01:58:30.000 And I may have misstated... I think that's what you did, yeah, because I always thought it was Jacob and the Arabs of the other group.

01:58:37.000 Okay, yeah, that's what I thought.

01:58:38.000 They believe that they're Jacob and we're Esau, so I actually apologize for that.

01:58:42.000 I got that mixed up.

01:58:43.000 They see themselves as Jacob, we are Esau, and so we're doing this... And then that's what got picked up with the transatlantic slave trade.

01:58:52.000 Well, that's part of coming from the Midrash and from the Guide of the Perplexed of Rabbi Moses Mammamides. 0.86

01:58:58.000 The anti-black teaching is in those two documents, although you've got to get the uncensored version of the Guide of the Perplexed, as translated by Shlomo Pines.

01:59:07.000 If you get any other version, usually the racial material has been excised.

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02:00:08.000 Continuing, we were having a discussion on the InfoWars stream for Prison Planet TV viewers.

02:00:14.000 I asked you, I said, don't you mean Jacob against Esau?

02:00:19.000 You said yes, you'd gotten that backwards earlier, probably with all my interrupting.

02:00:25.000 Just continue wherever you'd like.

02:00:28.000 Yeah, the website is www.revisionisthistory.org, and yes, when I was translating Halakha Hibiyot, Ishi Esav, Sona Eliakov, I actually transposed it incorrectly.

02:00:43.000 The Judaics regard themselves, of course, as Jacob, and we are Esau, and they see this as a racial divide that can never be breached, and that's why they have this sense of immunity and entitlement that they're never wrong, they never have to apologize, they never commit war crimes, and any accusations along those lines are being fielded by latter-day Esaus against themselves as Jacob. 0.80

02:01:06.000 So that's kind of a codifying, a psychopathic outlook.

02:01:11.000 It is.

02:01:12.000 It's a religion which has the symptoms of psychopathology because they have delusions of grandeur as being the superior master race on Earth, and they're also paranoid in that they have this incipient fear of opposition.

02:01:28.000 And those are two symptoms, of course, of insanity.

02:01:32.000 But it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, because it's an intelligent, you know, group that is getting a lot of power, and so there's going to be competition, eh?

02:01:40.000 And there is also going to be people fighting.

02:01:43.000 Well, it's constant warfare Zionism. 0.97

02:01:45.000 I usually append the word Zionism with war.

02:01:48.000 It's war Zionism, and it's war to the hilt. 0.95

02:01:51.000 And of course you see that on the West Bank with these settlers and their Talmudic philosophy of annihilating Amalek, which is what they refer to the Palestinians as Amalek, and of course in the Old Testament Amalek was a people who were supposed to be exterminated, so they're actually calling for the extermination of the Palestinians but once again that's not Alex on an Old Testament basis because as you know in the Old Testament God says he did do away with Amalek and he said I will blot out its memory forever. 0.51

02:02:20.000 And he said also kill their animals. 0.98

02:02:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:02:23.000 But see how do you deal with that as a Christian because you've got the Old Testament which Christians accept and saying yeah go ahead and kill everybody when you take over this land kill them and their animals but then modern oh it's Talmudic it's evil it's bad when they want to wipe everybody out. 0.99

02:02:37.000 Yeah, well that's a good question.

02:02:39.000 I do just want to say, however, that the modern use of Amalek shows the Talmudic nullification of Scripture, because God keeps His promises, and He said, I would blot out the memory of Amalek. 0.98

02:02:51.000 True Christians today don't go around calling anybody Amalek, but the Talmudists do, and so they're actually contradicting the Old Testament. 0.95

02:03:00.000 Also, God ended Amalek with an announcement. 0.58

02:03:04.000 Well, he ended it through his own power, and you challenge me with the idea of God taking out these nations in the Old Testament.

02:03:14.000 Invariably, when a nation was destroyed in the Old Testament, it was a nation that was practicing sexual sin under occult auspices, and that will destroy us, it will destroy... Yeah, Moloch, Moloch, Moloch, burning babies to him. 0.87

02:03:29.000 Yeah. 0.65

02:03:30.000 So that's what we're talking about.

02:03:31.000 We're not talking about any innocent nation of people that God simply picked on because his chosen people were coming along.

02:03:38.000 Because if you really read the Old Testament, it's an indictment against the Israelites.

02:03:44.000 And the great prophets who Jesus said from Abel to Zechariah were killed, they were killed for criticizing Israel and telling them that they were falling short.

02:03:55.000 Just like today, if we try to say the same things, we become under attack.

02:03:59.000 And another indicator, Alex, that the religion of Judaism is not an Old Testament religion.

02:04:06.000 We were talking earlier about how they disparage Noah.

02:04:09.000 They also disparage the prophet Isaiah.

02:04:12.000 Now, how can you do that and be an Old Testament religion? 0.89

02:04:14.000 This comes out in my book that I'll be finishing up soon called Judaism Discovered.

02:04:19.000 The prophet Isaiah, as you know, criticized Israel.

02:04:24.000 And so the Talmud says of Isaiah that he had unclean lips.

02:04:29.000 And they say that Isaiah was killed and he got what he deserved.

02:04:33.000 In fact, the Talmudic description of his death is that he was sawed with a saw that went right across his mouth to punish him for saying these terrible things about the Jews.

02:04:44.000 Now, no biblical religion would ever side with the killers of Isaiah, but that's what Jesus identified them as.

02:04:52.000 He said, you've been the killers of the prophets.

02:04:54.000 And you've been the killers of the prophets historically, this ideology and this spirit that you embody.

02:05:00.000 And that's what we're confronting in the Israeli state, and we're confronting among Orthodox Judaism today in the United States, where George Bush on April 15th, as all of his predecessors since Jimmy Carter did on Education Day USA, met with the Chabad Lubavitchers in the White House. 0.97

02:05:17.000 He got his marching orders from them.

02:05:20.000 He dedicated this nation to the phony Talmudic Noahide laws. 0.99

02:05:24.000 Under the rulership of their dead messiah, Menachem Mendel Schneerson, that's been going on since Jimmy Carter, the conservative Ronald Reagan, both Bushes... Let me ask you, what do you think Carter's doing now, going over and saying it's apartheid and genocide and wrong and being barred from entry to Israel and things like that? 0.51

02:05:46.000 Well, I'd have to preface my remarks on Jimmy Carter by saying that I was very, very angry at that man at one time, particularly when he instituted the cooperation with Castro for the disastrous Marielle Boatlift.

02:05:59.000 I don't know if he has ever really done penance for that because he unleashed from Castro's insane asylums and prisons The dregs of that island nation, they came over here, they raped, they murdered, and they plundered, and that is on Jimmy Carter's record. 0.99

02:06:14.000 Now, all I can do is surmise, Alex, that he has had a change of heart, that he's one of the very rare people who has been at the top that knows he was implicated in sin and wrong and evil, and in his own way, he's trying to make up for that, and I think he's doing that.

02:06:31.000 In his trips to the Middle East, I think he's doing good work.

02:06:34.000 His book on the apartheid system over there is wonderful.

02:06:38.000 I don't agree with all of it.

02:06:40.000 But this is a man who is trying to fashion in his own sort of stumbling way a type of Christian witness in his old age.

02:06:49.000 And I'll tell you, I'll take that.

02:06:51.000 Well, that's why the globalists a lot of times kill older globalists, because they do.

02:07:02.000 Some people turn back, you know, kind of on the cross there at the last minute next to Christ.

02:07:07.000 But expanding on that, and I do think he's doing it for good reasons, just from, you know, what I pick up, you know, his body language, listening to it, analyzing it.

02:07:15.000 And it's not a hateful thing he's doing, he's doing it in a peaceable way.

02:07:20.000 Again, everything you describe about Judaism, again, I see those similar excuses, those similar claims manifested in other cultures.

02:07:28.000 And this is obviously a dominant culture.

02:07:30.000 I'm just wanting to add that, again, humans rationalize, come up with this same stuff across the board.

02:07:37.000 Oh yeah, but see, we're all free to challenge all those people.

02:07:40.000 We're free to challenge Reverend Wright when he makes these statements.

02:07:46.000 We're free to challenge the Chinese on Tibet, but as soon as we apply the same criterion to the Israelis and want to treat them equally as all other human beings who have both shortcomings and a good side and a bad side, Suddenly, we become Esau, they're Jacob, and it's Halakha, Hebe, Yodesh, Yeisav, Sanai, Lel, Yaakov. 0.99

02:08:08.000 And that's a special situation that we're dealing with whenever we enter into the territory of these rabbis. 0.99

02:08:15.000 Well, I think the source... Now, are you saying in all rabbinical sects you basically get the same thing?

02:08:21.000 Because I know in certain neighborhoods in New York or in the Middle East, the new film about Bin Laden, By Spurlock.

02:08:31.000 He's just in Israel and these rabbis start beating him up, calling him filth.

02:08:35.000 You know, he's not allowed in the neighborhood. 0.98

02:08:36.000 But then other rabbis run up and get him and say, no, no, that's a crazy group of people.

02:08:40.000 I mean, you know, like you have the one group of rabbis saying Israel shouldn't exist, which has got hundreds of thousands of people, Nutter Cardi and a few other groups.

02:08:47.000 And then you've got other, I mean, there's also, from what I've seen, a few different brands of Zionism.

02:08:53.000 I mean, you have the big dominant one, but then there's also some other ones.

02:08:56.000 What's your take on that?

02:08:58.000 Yeah, well, that's a good question.

02:08:59.000 I'm talking mainly about Orthodox Judaism, because that, of course, was all the Judaism that existed on Earth until the Mescala, that's to say, the Enlightenment, which coincides with the liberal Enlightenment in Europe at its height in the late 18th century.

02:09:15.000 And prior to that, from the founding of Judaism, after the traditions of men, the oral traditions of men, were committed to writing in the Mishnah, and then later in the Gemara, in the first, second, third Four centuries A.D., all you had was Orthodox Judaism, and then two branches, actually three, Reconstructionism, which is extremely liberal and almost not a factor here.

02:09:38.000 But two main branches broke off, and that's the Reform branch, based on the Mascala, or the Enlightenment, and the Conservative branch, which tried to take a middle road between the two.

02:09:49.000 And what that really means is, Alex, the majority of Judaics in America who are religious, and who are following judaism are reformed judaics and a lot of them never seen the call that in their life but see that's what i'm saying every jew i know is a friendly nice person and most of them don't even like the war and they just feel persecuted as the news tells them they are and for what their leaders do they are getting some persecution because they individually haven't done anything and then see that's my larger picture i mean in your massive study of this

02:10:16.000 you're probably one of the former scholars who honestly looks at it not from a bigoted view before my you're just a cold scientific perspective What's the power structure, you know, and the pyramidal structure?

02:10:25.000 I mean, what percentage of the elite of the Judaics really know what's going on? 1.00

02:10:29.000 And then, you know, what are the substratus?

02:10:31.000 What's the command structure?

02:10:33.000 Well, see, one of the doors into Judaism for Gentiles I mentioned was the Noahide Laws and Holocaustianity. 1.00

02:10:39.000 I was about to say, the fake Christian Zionists now seem to be one of the most dominant, virulent, vicious groups now. 1.00

02:10:46.000 Yeah, much to the scandalization of the Gospel, because a whole generation of young people are now turned off to the Bible and Jesus Christ because they associate it with these bloodthirsty warmongers.

02:10:56.000 But to get back to your question, the access route for these reformed Judaics who are sort of just cultural Judaics and they... Tell you what, stay there! 0.98

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02:11:29.000 Okay, Mr. Hoffman, please continue with the power structure.

02:11:32.000 Yeah, so the door, Alex, for these sort of agnostic, liberal, Judaic types that you say that you're familiar with, the door into the Talmud for them is through Zionism. 0.80

02:11:43.000 Because Zionism is actually the Talmud in action, even though the Israeli state was founded by Communists and Secularists. 0.73

02:11:50.000 So it's the modern political manifestation and the door for the Secularists to enter back in. 0.99

02:11:57.000 Well, you have to use Moses Hess, and this will be in my book, and for those who subscribe to my newsletter, Revisionist History, they're already familiar with him because He is the person who took inside himself both the Talmud, Zionism, and Communism.

02:12:13.000 Karl Marx called him my Communist Rabbi.

02:12:16.000 He was also the spiritual founder of Zionism before Herzl, and he was actually loyal to the Talmud.

02:12:23.000 He's an incredible personality, very important for people to study, to understand.

02:12:28.000 He lived in the 1800s to understand how the 20th century came about and these evils were imposed on us.

02:12:36.000 Because a listener can say, oh my gosh, Hoffman's trying to say that the road to the Talmud is through Zionism, but so many Israelis are secularists, they don't want to have anything to do with the Talmud.

02:12:48.000 That's correct, to a degree.

02:12:50.000 It's a generalization, and there's some distortion there, because the Talmud, as we've been talking about from the outset, is inherently, ipso facto, prima facie racist.

02:13:02.000 And what does it share with Zionism? 0.71

02:13:05.000 Prima facie, ipso facto, racist.

02:13:08.000 See, I want to be clear, that's why this system is so perfectly designed to take over other political systems, because it takes from Egypt, it takes from Rome, it takes from Babylon, it takes from the Old Temple, it takes all of those intrigues, and then it takes the crusade clashes, and all of this, and then how to control your subgroup that thinks you're taking care of them, how to stage events, how to do all of this,

02:13:36.000 It's a tiny ruling cabal that does study human behavior and activity, ruling over these people.

02:13:41.000 Now, would you say that the political Zionists are in control now, or are some of these rabbis still in control? 0.93

02:13:46.000 And if so, which group of rabbis?

02:13:49.000 Well, I would say the main political rabbinic power is associated with the Chabad Lubavitch, because they are the ones who have been more or less delegated to go out into the world, to not be so much the literary recluses and bookworms To go out there and do missionary evangelism with the Judaics who have lapsed in their religion, and also to act as the political point men with the various leaders of the United States Congress.

02:14:16.000 Oh, you ought to hear them on the Christian radio shows.

02:14:18.000 This is the craziest stuff I've ever heard.

02:14:21.000 Well, and I'd be happy to debate an Orthodox rabbi, if you can arrange it, or one of these other Christian programs do.

02:14:28.000 I'd be delighted to do that.

02:14:29.000 I'd be also delighted to take telephone calls today.

02:14:31.000 But the Chabad Lubavitchers are probably the most politically endowed, both in the former Soviet Union, the Russian Federation, in the United States, and in Europe.

02:14:41.000 Very powerful there, and when we're talking, all these neocons are talking about Islamic fundamentalism and the war on reason, and yet the Chabad Lubavitch and other allied rabbinic groups have tremendous political power.

02:14:54.000 They're fanatic, they're fundamentalists, they're against the Enlightenment, they're against freedom.

02:14:59.000 They're weaseling their way into Europe and the United States government, and yet, whenever these guys with these myriad, dozens and dozens of books about how the Islamists are making war on our way of life and they're going to abridge our freedom of speech, I've had my freedom of speech and my freedom of press Well, I mean, that's a joke. 0.55

02:15:18.000 Al-Qaeda attacked us because they hate our freedom, and the government's taking all our freedoms.

02:15:21.000 That's right, they're Al-Qaeda.

02:15:22.000 We're going to go back live right now, sir, and I do want to get some into, you know, the Twilight communication, all their, you know, the forms of brainwashing.

02:15:30.000 I'd like to get into that soon.

02:15:31.000 soon.

02:15:38.000 Here we go.

02:16:00.000 La Grange!

02:16:01.000 The Ranch!

02:16:02.000 Right outside Austin!

02:16:03.000 Ha ha! 0.86

02:16:05.000 Ha ha! 0.86

02:16:09.000 Hard to turn this off.

02:16:10.000 Good stuff, good stuff.

02:16:11.000 Our guest, with us about 20 minutes into the next hour.

02:16:32.000 We're going to end transmission after the overdrive.

02:16:34.000 You'll need to go over to Infowars.com, listen to the streams there.

02:16:37.000 If you're listening online, you'll be able to hear that extra 20 minutes coming up in about 40.

02:16:42.000 Going back to Mr. Hoffman, we've spent an hour on this, where I really like your analysis and what I've read you did eight, ten years ago, five years ago.

02:16:53.000 Yes, folks, I've read his stuff for more than a decade.

02:16:56.000 I'm not just now discovering all this.

02:16:59.000 It's just that people have to be more sophisticated in their approach to all of it.

02:17:03.000 I will not feed into the New World Order's operations. 0.98

02:17:05.000 I will not be part of it, as a lot of you have been.

02:17:07.000 And I don't think Mr. Hoffman has it in any way.

02:17:12.000 I do want to get into their whole twilight language, you know, all the different things that the globalists are doing, some of the allied crime syndicates, where you think their program's going.

02:17:21.000 And then you also said you'd like to take some calls, so we'll do that in overdrive coming up in the next hour, if you can stay with us.

02:17:27.000 In fact, I need to ask you, can you stay with us 20 minutes in the next hour?

02:17:30.000 Yes.

02:17:31.000 Okay, fantastic.

02:17:32.000 We will open that up in about 30 minutes.

02:17:32.000 512-646-5400.

02:17:34.000 512-646-5400.

02:17:34.000 We will open that up in about 30 minutes.

02:17:36.000 512-646-5400.

02:17:39.000 You can go ahead and get lined up if you'd like to talk to Mr. Hoffman.

02:17:43.000 Now, let's get into, unless you have more you want to add about the new order.

02:17:48.000 I just wanted to say www.revisionisthistory.org is our website.

02:17:53.000 And I just wanted to finish one tale thought there, Alex, that the roots of Zionist racism are in the Talmud.

02:18:02.000 so for people who claim that The secular Israelis and secular Zionism couldn't possibly have a religious motivation if you look around to Bolshevik Russia and you see these circumcised Judaics who are inflicting this Holocaust on the Russian Orthodox Church and on Christians there. 0.73

02:18:19.000 They weren't doing it out of simply atheistic motives.

02:18:23.000 They were doing it out of a religious hate which had been inculcated in them in their youth.

02:18:28.000 So you can be a secularist as you grow up, but if you always have this sort of cerebral nostalgia, and you see so many times these hyphenated Judaics, if you notice them, or they'll say, well, I'm a Buddhist Jew, or I'm an atheist Jew. 0.68

02:18:40.000 Most of us, if we're Christians, or we're Italians, or we're Irish, And we go on to a different world, a different strata.

02:18:50.000 We don't continue to maintain our original identification, but they do.

02:18:54.000 So here, a lot of them, not all of them, of course.

02:18:57.000 So what we have here is we have a nationalistic connection which survives even a transmogrification into a new world of Buddha or Tibet or atheism.

02:19:11.000 They still cling to a racial, national identification with the Israeli state and with their people.

02:19:17.000 Now there's no doubt, though, that Western Europeans had what they believed was a providence, what they believed was manifest destiny, and that they did use the Torah as an excuse to exterminate the Native Americans.

02:19:34.000 So there we see something similar to what the Zionists are doing, or similar to what whites were doing with apartheid, with that. 0.90

02:19:40.000 So I just want to make the point Well, I don't buy the idea that there was an extermination of the American Indians in New England.

02:19:46.000 I think we'd have to take it century by century.

02:19:50.000 Certainly, when these Union generals at the end of the war between the states went out there and tried to make the Midwest safe for the railroads and the corporations, yes, there was oppression of the Indians and a lot of lying and a lot of disgusting things going on.

02:20:03.000 Well, look, I like Andrew Jackson, but I've also got some Native American in me.

02:20:07.000 Comanche and Cherokee.

02:20:10.000 So I also like Native Americans, and you know, it was humans. 0.99

02:20:13.000 You could hire natives to kill natives. 1.00

02:20:15.000 And it was huge battles. 0.82

02:20:16.000 And people say, look at the Indian killer, the native killer, Andrew Jackson, who I like, fought the New World Order.

02:20:22.000 That was when it was 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 5 to 1, 10 to 1, fighting the natives. 0.99

02:20:25.000 It wasn't like they were shrinking violet wimps or something.

02:20:28.000 But the point is, they did say, it's our right to go and take over, it's ours.

02:20:34.000 My point is, that is a human trait.

02:20:36.000 I'm just being honed and focused and wicked and vicious through the Zionists, but I'm just saying, I want to, again, let us all recognize this in ourselves, that tribes do this to each other. 1.00

02:20:47.000 Well, that's true, but I think when we're associating Christianity with that and with the Torah, and I want all respect paid to the Torah and to the religion of Jesus Christ, then I don't agree... I'm not attacking that!

02:20:59.000 I'm saying it was used in Manifest Destiny, was it not?

02:21:03.000 Well... Was it not cited?

02:21:06.000 Yeah, Manifest Destiny being different from what the Christians who came to New England were practicing... Oh, well, it was the Christians who freed the slaves! 0.99

02:21:13.000 I understand that.

02:21:14.000 I'm not saying Christians, so that's a... Stay there, we're going to talk during the break. 1.00

02:21:20.000 You want to flesh that out?

02:21:21.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:21:22.000 Puritans fought a war of survival in New England with the Indians, but they made many efforts to convert them.

02:21:29.000 David Brainerd was one of those people that Jonathan Edwards praised.

02:21:33.000 And in fact, if you go into what I think is really solving the... But there were abuses in the name of the religion.

02:21:40.000 Absolutely.

02:21:41.000 Absolutely.

02:21:41.000 Every one of us has to keep A humility about our own selves.

02:21:46.000 My whole point is, this is silly, and I know you don't agree with that, to say that Jews are inherently evil. 0.97

02:21:52.000 That's the point I'm trying to get at here. 0.98

02:21:54.000 I'm not saying it's not honed and focused and really dangerous and going on.

02:21:57.000 I'm saying that this is a tribal manifestation put into a hyper-aggressive package. 0.73

02:22:05.000 Yes, and so many Judaics, as you pointed out from your own personal experience, are not affiliated with the Talmud, they're not affiliated with Judaism, but like you and I, it's easy to put a flag in their hand, give them a slogan, and sweep them along with the mob, and that's what's happening to them, because certainly as part of my campaign and my ministry, First and foremost is an outreach to the Judaic people to liberate them so that they can be more part of the solution.

02:22:32.000 And I'm sure you're familiar with the fact that you get attacked by some of the neo-Nazis that clothe themselves as more reasonable, claiming you're bad because you want to reach out.

02:22:40.000 They're saying Jews are inherently evil. 0.81

02:22:43.000 Yeah, and a lot of those people are almost completely insignificant. 0.76

02:22:47.000 They had a higher profile in the past when you saw, for example, the Canadian Zionists were funding John Beattie, who was running the Canadian Nazi Party.

02:22:56.000 We've caught German intelligence running the Nazi groups, firebombing the poor Turks.

02:23:02.000 Then they go, oh, we have to leave your borders open.

02:23:03.000 You firebomb the Turks. 1.00

02:23:05.000 It turns out it was German intel.

02:23:06.000 They've had Nazis in Idaho, as you know, who really are being funded by rabbis outhiling Hitler. 0.91

02:23:12.000 Exactly.

02:23:12.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:23:14.000 The Aryan Nations in Idaho was one of the greatest FBI listening posts that had ever been established in the United States.

02:23:21.000 Randy Weaver's family would be alive today had Randy not gone up to Aryan Nations and the real history of Aryan Nations and how the media kept that alive and has really not come out.

02:23:32.000 Maybe someday there will be a book on it.

02:23:36.000 Absolutely.

02:23:37.000 Time for another coffee, thank you.

02:23:39.000 That's one problem with not having breaks, is that I can't even get my own stimulant here.

02:23:45.000 I can tell you just as a sideline, Alex, that Timothy McVeigh was up here in our neck of the woods, as you probably know, at the Shadow Hotel.

02:23:54.000 He was at gun shows here in Austin.

02:23:55.000 He was everywhere creating that ledger.

02:23:57.000 Go ahead.

02:23:58.000 Well, he was with the Keyhole Boys who were implicated in some of the murders where they were knocking off some of the witnesses of the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:24:06.000 Oh yeah, and then you also had the bank robberies going on right out of Elohim City that it turned out, official news, Southern Poverty Law Center was running.

02:24:15.000 Exactly! 0.91

02:24:16.000 Aryan Nations, Neo-Nazi Network, all these patsies. 1.00

02:24:20.000 These buffoons, these child molesters, these gun runners, ex-cons, they were all being funneling into this movement, but at the last minute... Stay there, stay there. 1.00

02:24:30.000 You know what? 0.98

02:24:30.000 Recap that now with the full audience. 0.98

02:24:32.000 We were just talking about how the main Nazi groups, I mean, in the British papers, in the U.S., caught over and over again, not just run, but founded by British intel, German intel, ADL Connections, Southern Property Law Center, German intel, ADL Connections, Southern Property Law Center, it's come out in official FBI documents.

02:24:32.000 audience.

02:24:32.000 Here we go.

02:24:54.000 Funding and running Elohim City, the main Nazi compound in Oklahoma. 0.53

02:24:57.000 Tied in with the Rabbis and the Aryan Nations. 1.00

02:25:00.000 Running it in Idaho.

02:25:02.000 And Mr. Hopkins up there.

02:25:04.000 This has all come out in the news, but the average American doesn't understand.

02:25:06.000 Again, they need Nazism. 0.99

02:25:08.000 They need hatred of Jews. 1.00

02:25:10.000 So the controlling group can use the Jews as their slaves. 0.99

02:25:14.000 As a subgroup. 0.92

02:25:15.000 And then they... Very sophisticated, but also very simple in a way.

02:25:20.000 Elaborate on what you were just saying.

02:25:22.000 And also keeping, Alex, I'd like to continue that very good point you're making there, also keeping Judaic people who are inside Judaism and who could reveal so much, like some of these Muslims who get out of Islam and they're going around on speaking tours.

02:25:38.000 We need to have converted former rabbis who are converted to Christ going around the country telling what they know.

02:25:46.000 Well, that's happened before and they get killed pretty fast.

02:25:50.000 Well, you know, I'm a positive thinker.

02:25:52.000 I believe that God is on our side, and as long as He's on our side, who can be against us?

02:25:56.000 Absolutely.

02:25:57.000 If God be with us, who can be against us?

02:26:00.000 You got that right.

02:26:01.000 So yeah, we were talking about Timothy McVeigh being up here at the Shadows Motel in Spokane, Washington, and he was meeting with the Kehoe Brothers, who were implicated in knocking off some of the witnesses to the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy, and when this information was presented to the federal judge, Uh, at the trial there, uh, he ruled it out of evidence, irrelevant, absolutely, because they really didn't want to reveal the role of what you and I are talking about, or how they use these patsies, and they certainly have patsies on the left as well.

02:26:32.000 uh... the violent uh... animal rights crusaders and uh... well let me know what i mean you ever notice you have to be a provocateur you notice how the groups that claim they're exposing zionism they just freak out attack everybody else cause fights claim people have been kidnapped that haven't just run around wildly uh... they've always got criminal backgrounds they're being handled they're being run

02:26:52.000 Whereas I'm saying, everybody come together, everybody's human, let's just not be tribal, yeah there's evil mafias, let's, you know, I'm trying to tell listeners, empower yourselves, take action, we can win, we can fight evil. 0.99

02:27:04.000 Notice the other guys, they never do that, it's a key M.O.

02:27:08.000 Right, and I think that the lesson of the New Testament, at least for me anyway, as a believer is, is that you cannot Be in contention with these things using carnal weapons.

02:27:17.000 The system loves violence.

02:27:19.000 They absolutely feed on it.

02:27:21.000 And that's why they stage terror attacks.

02:27:23.000 I love these guys that call me, write me. 1.00

02:27:25.000 You coward, Phil. 0.99

02:27:26.000 You're not calling for guns and shooting people. 1.00

02:27:29.000 You're a coward! 1.00

02:27:30.000 But they're posting on my website. 1.00

02:27:33.000 Then we catch them with the same IP posting, look at this guy threatening.

02:27:37.000 I'm calling the government.

02:27:38.000 And the government shows up at my office.

02:27:40.000 But we know from the IP it's them.

02:27:42.000 They're feds!

02:27:44.000 Yeah, they absolutely need this violence.

02:27:46.000 They need it in the Arab and Muslim world. 0.85

02:27:47.000 Unfortunately, the Muslims have a religion which is oriented towards using carnal weapons against their opponents, so it's much easier to manipulate Muslims than it is to manipulate Christians, although we have so few authentic Christians these days that I suppose in some ways it's become just as easy in either culture. 1.00

02:28:06.000 Well, are you kidding? 0.99

02:28:07.000 A lot of these white Anglo, quote, Zionist, I mean, you'll hear them say, nuke all the Arabs, murder everyone, kill all their children, kill anyone who disagrees with the government and our holy jihad against the jihadis. 1.00

02:28:20.000 And, I mean, they've lost all their soul. 1.00

02:28:23.000 Don't you idiots know that if the government will nuke Muslims, they'll take your bank account? 1.00

02:28:27.000 Don't you know they can kill, I mean, the videos, hundreds of them of our troops shooting Iraqi children for fun and shooting dogs and and our citizens don't care about the Iraqi kids, they cry about the dogs, showing how far we've fallen, doesn't the public know that if evil is allowed to be perpetrated against somebody else, it can happen to you? 1.00

02:28:44.000 I mean, don't they understand how that works?

02:28:46.000 Yeah, there's definitely been a process of dehumanization, and as you say, if we're dehumanizing these other people, then we're simply setting ourselves up to be dehumanized as well.

02:28:56.000 Think how big these hit teams are that are already here.

02:28:56.000 Exactly.

02:28:59.000 They have hundreds of thousands of troops, and tens of thousands have been involved in massacres, and they just sit there on the side of the road in Baghdad, shooting cars full of women and children falling out dead, laughing!

02:29:10.000 I mean, it's not even at a checkpoint!

02:29:13.000 They just say, watch this, playing Elvis music and shoot families and laugh!

02:29:18.000 And Blackwater, as you know, has been implicated in that.

02:29:20.000 And the headline in our North Idaho newspaper was yesterday was that Blackwater may open a chapter in North Idaho because we have a lot of retired policemen, firemen, and military up here.

02:29:31.000 And, of course, I take my hat off to all genuine public servants who really have protected us from crime.

02:29:36.000 And things like that, but when you have that kind of military mentality where the government is right and they forget what George Washington and Thomas Jefferson argued for and shed their blood for, then you have these mercenary groups coming in, which is basically, as you know, what we're operating in the Middle East is a mercenary army.

02:29:55.000 Well that's why day one, a private gets $30,000 a year, a sergeant gets $50,000-$60,000 a year, a colonel gets $1,000,000 a year.

02:30:03.000 It's unknown what the generals get, but they fly in hundreds of billions on giant pallets per year and publicly hand it out off record to the troops, but that's meant to corrupt them, that's meant to get them ready for clandestine Black Ops, and now they're not professional hitmen in some cases. 0.77

02:30:21.000 They're so bloodthirsty that I've seen the reports in major papers, and I've seen video of it, where there'll be a mother walking with a child and up a .50 cal at, you know, 5,000, not 5,000, 500 yards, and they'll place bets on, can I shoot her in the head? 0.97

02:30:36.000 And her head will explode, and then the child mother falls over with the hand, you know, and then just spraying and shooting and taking puppies and murdering them. 1.00

02:30:44.000 I mean, it's just like, ah! 0.54

02:30:46.000 I mean, that's mind control, and now I want to get into that, because I want to take calls, but we can't just go for 10 hours here.

02:30:53.000 I mean, you've done so many other subjects.

02:30:55.000 In fact, let me punch your website up here in front of me.

02:30:58.000 I mean, there's so many.

02:31:00.000 I just had it up here on my browser.

02:31:03.000 Let me find it.

02:31:05.000 And that's revisionisthistory.org.

02:31:07.000 Yeah, for some reason it's not in my browser.

02:31:09.000 Punch it up here on the screen for me, guys.

02:31:11.000 Because I want to go through different subjects now, quickly, that you also cover, not just one of the big subjects.

02:31:19.000 One of the things that you mentioned there, Alex, with that violence, and the way that it does damage to Jesus Christ and the Gospel, because obviously Satan does not want the Gospel to spread, doesn't want people to be saved, We have so many ministers and even Catholic priests, for that matter, who've become neocons, who are preaching this war doctrine.

02:31:39.000 They're cheering on the massacres.

02:31:41.000 And the people of the world look on this and they figure, well, these are the public spokesmen for Jesus Christ.

02:31:46.000 This must be what Jesus Christ represents.

02:31:48.000 And yet Jesus Christ said, love your enemies.

02:31:51.000 Do good to them that persecute you.

02:31:53.000 And the only violence that is allowed to a Christian is not actually violence, but taking up of arms. 0.99

02:31:59.000 Is the police power that the Apostle Paul spoke about, that the ruler bears not the sword in vain to protect our borders, to protect our women from rape, to punish kidnappers.

02:32:09.000 But we're not allowed, as we've done throughout history, as these secret agents have talked us into, where one Christian nation fights another Christian nation, and the minister gets up in one pulpit and says, God's on our side.

02:32:22.000 The other minister says, He's on their side.

02:32:24.000 You had Catholic priests holding masses for the French army.

02:32:28.000 Opposed to Spanish priests holding masses for their army.

02:32:31.000 This is all a scandalization of the gospel and it diminishes the stature of Jesus Christ in the world.

02:32:38.000 And I think that's the most satanic aspect of all of these wars that we have Christian ministers and priests and politicians implicated in their actions. 0.99

02:32:46.000 Again, anything is going to be used throughout history, it always is.

02:32:49.000 Okay, now, I want to get into the regime of Queen Elizabeth, the first ideological template for the Masonic Imperium and the intelligence agencies of the West, and how that ties into Twilight language, the sub-command-and-control argot of the cryptocracy The Alchemical Processing of Humanity via Psychodrama Embedded in Ritual Crimes, which we just saw on a high satanic holy day with the murder of Gene Palfrey yesterday.

02:33:16.000 Let's go through that before I go to calls.

02:33:18.000 I want to cover this giant area.

02:33:20.000 I hope you don't want me to do it all in ten minutes.

02:33:23.000 No, but I mean let's get into it.

02:33:26.000 Yeah, well with Queen Elizabeth, we briefly touched on her regime last time, and whenever, rule of thumb is whenever you're looking for this occult technology, you want to begin with the intelligence agencies, because that's typically where they're harbored.

02:33:40.000 And last time I was on your program, Alex, we talked about Dr. John Dee, astrologer royal to Queen Elizabeth I, and with Edward Kelly, he was involved in necromancy and an occult process called scrying.

02:33:52.000 He was also a legitimate mathematician in his own right.

02:33:55.000 And his codename, and this will send everybody into orbit when they hear what it was, his codename in the Elizabethan cryptocracy was 007.

02:34:05.000 And this is the original paradigm of 007.

02:34:08.000 In fact, people who are in the know on historians of intelligence agencies in the West have remarked upon the fact that the best, most efficient, treacherous, and deadliest of all the secret police forces in the West ...have been the British Intelligence, MI5 and MI6, and along with Mossad, of course, and all the rest of them from the CIA and the KGB downward are just pale imitations compared to that.

02:34:35.000 Well, why did they have this power and how did they get it?

02:34:40.000 In this particular case, John Dee was very much a Kabbalist.

02:34:43.000 He was fascinated with the Kabbalah, and last time we talked about how the Renaissance Roman Catholics and the Renaissance Anglicans began to import these Pharisaic ideas into Christendom when the Christians had done such a good job throughout the Middle Ages of keeping these ideas out, and then they entered in in the Renaissance.

02:35:05.000 And John Dee was obsessed with the Kabbalah.

02:35:07.000 He felt it was the key to the very highest forms of magic and control of populations and nations.

02:35:14.000 And so back in the 16th century, he made the very difficult journey Uh, out to Prague, where he saw Rabbi Jude Law.

02:35:22.000 Now, I must say, this is conjecture.

02:35:24.000 I cannot absolutely document that he, per se, met with Jude Law.

02:35:29.000 He was in occult bohemia at that time.

02:35:31.000 It would be very hard for me to believe that someone as well-connected as he was going into Prague And not meeting with Rabbi Giudolo, but so far we have not gotten the smoking gun on the actual meeting itself, so I can't produce letters or diaries that attest to that.

02:35:49.000 However, the key books which would have that information, they're not even extant in the British libraries.

02:35:56.000 One of them has been burned up.

02:35:57.000 You can see the copy, and it's been heavily burned.

02:36:00.000 Uh, the others have been lost, but one thing we do know, and we need to go by what people practice, that was Jesus' rule of thumb, by their fruits you'll know them, and so what are the fruits of John Dee?

02:36:11.000 After he returned from Prague, he was filled with this Kabbalistic gnosis, so if he didn't actually meet with Rabbi Judello, who by the way is associated with the mystical golem, The idea of getting the brainless Goyim, which is what they call the other nations of the world, and getting them to march to your tune, that was actually a philosophical meme or virus of Rabbi Judellot. 0.77

02:36:34.000 So whether or not Dee actually met with him, he certainly picked up the virus and brought it back to Great Britain, where he invented the concept of British Israel, which was a secret teaching that the people of Europe were actually descended from the Ten Tribes.

02:36:49.000 Now, I actually tend to believe that there is something to that, just because John Dee advocated it, or the Kabbalists and the Rabbis were trying to twist or distort it.

02:36:58.000 And by the way, that then energizes much of the modern Nazism, and those groups, they all believe that as well. 0.62

02:37:06.000 Well, I have found that most neo-Nazis are very dismissive of British Israel because they're dismissive of the Old Testament as Adolf Hitler was.

02:37:14.000 Adolf Hitler was basically convinced by the occultists that he dealt with in the Thule Society and the roots of the Thule Society that there was this Manichaean split between the Old Testament and the New Testament.

02:37:26.000 It's the heresy of Marcion, where you believe that Jesus was a New Testament figure, and that this terrible Yahweh was this demonic figure of the Old Testament. 0.76

02:37:35.000 The big problem with that is that Jesus quotes the Old Testament numerous times.

02:37:40.000 Sure, and he says, I'm here to fulfill the whole of the law.

02:37:43.000 Sure, yeah.

02:37:43.000 But I mean, let's go back, though.

02:37:45.000 That's interesting.

02:37:45.000 Tell me about, from your research, and I've done my own, the type of occultism that Hitler was following.

02:37:52.000 Well, one of the key aspects of seeing how Hitler was controlled is when you see that when he had state power over the publications of Germany, there's two key indicators for me. 0.81

02:38:05.000 One is the very best Talmud that had ever been published in Germany, the Talmud of Lazarus Goldschmidt.

02:38:12.000 uh... was published uh... in nazi germany while hitler was the supreme leader uh... they had picked a twelve volume series the last book was published in nineteen thirty six Publication began in 1929, and Hitler did not interdict the publication of the Talmud.

02:38:29.000 But even more telling than that is, when Hitler had the focus of the Germanic peoples of the world on him and on his ideology, and he had just a golden opportunity to teach people, what did he hold up for them to learn in terms of advising them about what the inner nature of Zionism uh...

02:38:47.000 communism and judaism was the protocols of the learned elders of zion i don't want to get into debating the providence of it but alex at the very least we can say that it is at very much in dispute and whenever i say that i get mail from people and they're trying to prove to me that the protocol is real and i think they look whether it's real or it's not and i personally do not believe that it is authentic but whether it is there is a written in comic book fashion Exactly.

02:39:14.000 And there are a couple of key points, because I believe the Russian secret police had a good handle.

02:39:19.000 The Russians were probably among the very best students of the rabbis, and they understood rabbinic knowledge.

02:39:26.000 To this day, the Russians are very alert to the Talmud. 0.89

02:39:30.000 Well, they have the oldest Koran, too, and just shipped a golden copy to Saudi Arabia.

02:39:35.000 So, yeah, a lot of scholarship going on.

02:39:38.000 And so, here Hitler holds up the Protocols, has it reprinted, when one of the greatest German scholars of all time, Johann Andreas Eisenmenger, in 1700, had written a book, Endectes Judentum, and it was about Judaism. 0.71

02:39:53.000 It was a two-volume master key into Judaism, which Samuel Wertheimer and Oppenheimer, the financiers of the Holy Roman Empire at that time, had that book suppressed.

02:40:06.000 And, uh, Eisenmenger had studied with rabbis for 20 years before he wrote the book.

02:40:11.000 And Hitler could have commissioned a republication of the book. 0.53

02:40:15.000 And there's still more details in that.

02:40:18.000 Most Germans are not interested in it. 0.99

02:40:19.000 I haven't been able to get Germans very interested in it.

02:40:22.000 Our publishing company came out with an English version of it.

02:40:25.000 You can find it at Amazon.com under Traditions of the Jews by Eisenmenger, but it's a one-volume abridgment by a Huguenot minister named Stellan in the 18th century.

02:40:35.000 It's not the complete book, but it's the best that we could do.

02:40:38.000 But that's really the master key to Judaism. 0.58

02:40:40.000 What does Hitler do? 0.54

02:40:41.000 He reprints the protocols and ignores Eisenmenger.

02:40:45.000 Of course, Eisenmenger was a pious Lutheran scholar.

02:40:49.000 There was nothing racist about him, nothing that you or I would object to.

02:40:52.000 It would have been a Benefaction to humanity of the reprint of that book and he didn't do it.

02:40:58.000 It's just one of a number of factors that you can see in Hitler's outlook And his attitude of the extirpation and extrusion of the Judaics from Europe, which has been... I mean, he's really the original $6 million man for the state of Israel. 0.86

02:41:14.000 If it wasn't for him, the Israeli state would have never come into being. 0.97

02:41:17.000 It was as a result of sympathy after World War II.

02:41:21.000 Well, that massive persecution...

02:41:24.000 But then I get people telling me Hitler wasn't the occult, he was a nice guy.

02:41:28.000 I mean, you can just look at the guy, but then all the speeches I've read, I've listened to old audio recordings and translations, and the things they did, and the people they shook down.

02:41:39.000 I mean, just all of it to say that this is a good guy, it just shows the sickening, delusional nature of so many people.

02:41:46.000 Now, we've got the final segment of the main radio show.

02:41:48.000 We're going to do about 20 minutes of overdrive.

02:41:50.000 I really want to get into Twilight Language, the sub-rosa command-and-control argot of the cryptocracy.

02:41:55.000 There is no doubt they're following this.

02:41:57.000 There's no doubt they're pulling games and doing all sorts of bizarre things.

02:42:01.000 I want to talk about that during this InfoWars.com segment.

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02:42:29.000 Okay.

02:42:31.000 Boy, this time has just blasted past us.

02:42:34.000 Let's get into defining what Twilight Language is.

02:42:37.000 Give us the basics of that and then get into some examples of its implementation and usage.

02:42:41.000 Well, I think, Alex, one of the reasons why our people are so passive right now, there's an eerie silence out in the hinterland.

02:42:48.000 You know, Hillary Clinton's husband, Bill...

02:42:51.000 Was part of the bombing of Serbia, where Christian churches and monasteries were destroyed, supposedly to liberate Kosovo.

02:42:58.000 And if something like that had been done by an American president, say, downtown Tel Aviv, as was done to Belgrade, you can be sure that if his wife was then running for president, everywhere he or his wife went around the United States, they would have encountered a crowd of angry Tel Aviv residents who said, look what you did, firebombing our town.

02:43:18.000 But we don't see crowds of Serbian Christians... With depleted uranium, they didn't just blow up everything. 1.00

02:43:23.000 Yeah, but we don't see Serbian Christians following around Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, and I'm not advocating any violence here, but just asking them tough questions, protest, and picket signs. 1.00

02:43:33.000 There's this incredible apathy on the part of our people, and I believe it's been instilled, and it's instilled in a number of ways.

02:43:39.000 Twilight language is one of them.

02:43:41.000 And Twilight Language is basically a way to talk over our heads directly to our subconscious.

02:43:47.000 And one of the movies, it's kind of R-rated, so I don't recommend it for people under the age of 18.

02:43:53.000 Kids shouldn't see it, you know, but mature adults can see it.

02:43:56.000 It's called They Live.

02:43:57.000 And in the movie they live for some reason the director mentioned that the glasses that you can put on to decode this subliminal twilight language are called the Hoffman lenses.

02:44:08.000 And to this day I don't know whether he was a fan of my book or it's just a synchronicity.

02:44:12.000 But that movie brings out some of the aspects, but of course it's a lot more technical than that.

02:44:18.000 But the idea is that you implant in people certain key words.

02:44:22.000 I'll give you one of them.

02:44:23.000 Wicker.

02:44:24.000 Okay, wicker. 0.91

02:44:25.000 You were talking about the Druids at the start of the program.

02:44:28.000 And wicker has to do with the historic method of immolation of a ritual victim.

02:44:33.000 You put them inside of a wicker basket, and something like that goes on at the Burning Man Rite in Nevada every year.

02:44:39.000 They're out at Black Rock, and I think Black Rock, even that word is symbolic.

02:44:44.000 But, um... On the sacrificial stone, and of course most of the people there don't know what it is, but go ahead.

02:44:50.000 Yeah, and so, in our subconscious, it's my theory, based on information, for example, from Dr. Carl Gustav Jung, and... Well, there's no doubt that there are these pre-programmed, almost ancestral memories.

02:45:03.000 Now, I'm not saying a reincarnation, folks.

02:45:05.000 I mean, pre-programmed, like, you know, why are the kids afraid of the dark?

02:45:09.000 Why do they want to be near you at night, so a big cat doesn't come in the cave and eat them?

02:45:13.000 There's these basic instincts.

02:45:14.000 Go ahead.

02:45:15.000 Yeah, you and I don't believe in reincarnation.

02:45:17.000 The orthodox rabbis do, of course, and it's unbelievable that Christians... I'll tell you, we're coming back. 1.00

02:45:22.000 Recap that now.

02:45:22.000 We're coming back.

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02:45:25.000 We'll start the extra hour, okay?

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02:48:57.000 So we're going to come back, try to get more into this whole Masonic system and the whole British angle on it, the Britannic angle, and then Twilight language.

02:49:08.000 Let's get into that first.

02:49:09.000 Amazing, very, very important with Mr. Hoffman when we start the next hour.

02:49:16.000 But I want to officially start that next hour coming in with the intro.

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02:49:21.000 Right now though, I need to let Mr. Hoffman know we need to call him back on his number.

02:49:26.000 So John, will you please IM that number to my producer Ian Austin.

02:49:32.000 And Mr. Hoffman, we will call you back in 60 seconds.

02:49:35.000 Is that okay?

02:49:36.000 Yes, that's fine Alex.

02:49:37.000 Okay, and then we can have you for 30 minutes, correct?

02:49:39.000 Yes.

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02:51:28.000 Genetics dominated the 20th century.

02:51:30.000 Its ruthless spirit has now metastasized into the fields of genetics.

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02:52:05.000 All right, Houston's giving us clearance here at Cape Granavro.

02:52:09.000 We're go launch into overdrive, commercial free, for the next 30 minutes.

02:52:15.000 My wife's gonna kill me if I don't stop doing 5, 6, 8 hour radio shows. 1.00

02:52:19.000 I tell you, I do this because I love it.

02:52:21.000 But I...

02:52:24.000 I just have always smelled a New World Order operation in and around, just going after certain groups of people, because that actually empowers the New World Order. 0.90

02:52:33.000 All right, I want to move quickly through Twilight Language, the Sub Rosa command and control argot of the cryptocracy, then we'll go to these loaded phone lines for Michael Hoffman, our guest, who is a former AP writer, best-selling author, researcher, calls himself a revisionist historian.

02:52:49.000 Let's go back to our guest.

02:52:51.000 Mr. Hoffman, break it down for us.

02:52:53.000 Yes, I'm wondering if just before I do, Alex, if I could brief people on our website and the publications, is that okay?

02:53:00.000 Oh, sure, yeah!

02:53:02.000 They're all going to visit and brief themselves, but go ahead.

02:53:04.000 So we're at www.revisionisthistory.org, and the book that I'm finishing up now is Judaism Discovered.

02:53:12.000 It should be available, we should be mailing it out in July, but we'll be having a pre-publication sale probably at the beginning of June, so if people stay on our mailing list and stay with us, They can get five or six dollars off the price on that, and that's really everything that I've got I've put into that book.

02:53:30.000 I've been writing it for a year, researching it for the last eight years, and that's... And again, this is all the rage, Madonna, everything else, we're just looking at it.

02:53:38.000 Go ahead.

02:53:39.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:53:40.000 And so our address is Independent History, PO Box 849, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, 83816, and the website is revisionisthistory.org.

02:53:53.000 And we were talking about Twilight Language, and Alex and I were discussing wicker as being one of the command words.

02:54:01.000 Earlier in the previous show that I did, I talked about how people are aware that Egypt involves, the ancient Egyptians and pharaonic Egypt involves archaeoastronomy.

02:54:11.000 And the mystical toponomy of that area, the ley lines and how the statuary is laid out, but very few people know the emphasis that the Egyptians put on the use of words, words of power, which Freemasonry is also aware of.

02:54:26.000 The Freemasons have a symbolic figure they call Dr. Syntax, and they have him lecturing at Freemasons Hall, which is the tip-off That there are these key words and of course every Mason knows that there are phrases and secret passwords.

02:54:39.000 Are you on the level?

02:54:40.000 We meet on the square.

02:54:41.000 Many of those having been part of the regular argot of Americans. 0.98

02:54:47.000 So ubiquitous was the influence of Freemasonry in the 20th century.

02:54:51.000 This goes a little bit deeper than that because we're talking about an attempt to speak to our unconscious or dreaming mind, which is awake when we are asleep.

02:54:59.000 But so many people are awake or are asleep even when they're awake.

02:55:03.000 And I think probably some of you driving on the highways and freeways will be aware of that with people with their cell phones and all these distractions.

02:55:11.000 But the point of a magician, of course, to work his illusion is to draw our attention away from the real trick.

02:55:19.000 And so much of what the cryptocracy Alex is involved in today is misdirection.

02:55:24.000 And in the meanwhile, they salt our media, our public relations, with these keywords which are intended to instill in us amnesia, Apathy and ebulia.

02:55:36.000 Ebulia means lack of will.

02:55:38.000 And we certainly see all... And let me just throw this in.

02:55:40.000 They also do things, and there's many levels and facets, but as George Orwell said, destroying the language, reducing it.

02:55:46.000 They'll call someone who murders 55 children with a bomb a extremist, which is a... or a radical, which is a term that doesn't describe a cold-blooded murderer of a piece of filth, you know, a terrorist.

02:56:01.000 They will prescribe a word that is not as serious to something serious so they can then use it to people who aren't even quote extreme but now it has the mental idea that oh my god this person's a murdering terrorist that way they can call you an extremist and not get sued when they're really calling you a murdering killer.

02:56:20.000 I mean see all those little mind games they play?

02:56:23.000 Yeah, language is really the key of it and who controls the language for example how the word The neologism Holocaust was introduced into our vocabulary prior to the late 1960s, early 70s.

02:56:35.000 Most people talked about the genocide as Raphael Lemkin coined it, which was also a neologism.

02:56:41.000 Or they just referred to the six million.

02:56:43.000 And suddenly this term Holocaust, which means burnt offering, was being applied to people who did not die generally by fire, as it's alleged, but they died allegedly by gas.

02:56:53.000 But see how that is a sacrifice, which they believe by funding Hitler and letting him do all that, then that's the excuse. 0.80

02:57:00.000 And, of course, you report that you do believe Hitler did kill a lot of people and Jews, according to what I've read in your writings, which obviously is accurate. 1.00

02:57:08.000 The number can be debated, which, again, is a burnt offering to set up Israel. 0.86

02:57:11.000 But continue with words.

02:57:12.000 I mean, continue with lots of words and this twilight language.

02:57:15.000 I mean, break that down.

02:57:17.000 By definition.

02:57:17.000 Yeah, well, twilight language, if you look on the Internet and search around for twilight language, you're either going to bump into my research or you're going to bump into a technical term that's used in Buddhist and Tantric and Hindu manuscripts to talk about the concealment of texts which are not allowed for initiates to access.

02:57:38.000 But twilight language as used in that Buddhist-Hindu context does not really involve manipulation of the unconscious or dreaming mind.

02:57:46.000 It's a little bit there in Tantra, but mostly it's a technical term for how texts are concealed, which is of interest to me in my study of Judaism, because one of the theses that I bring out in my new book is that even some of the texts in the Talmud were deliberately planted there in case Gentiles penetrated through The Aramaic began to understand and got access to the text, but we'll leave that for another time or for when my book is published.

02:58:12.000 But in this peculiar case of Twilight Language in the West, Alex...

02:58:16.000 That's the manipulation of archetypes, and I want to give you an example because I think that's the best way for people to understand it.

02:58:22.000 Darth Vader?

02:58:23.000 How are police now dressed?

02:58:24.000 And then a police chief in a major city saying they wear it to intimidate us?

02:58:28.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:58:29.000 Yeah, sure, no, that's part of it.

02:58:31.000 And that would be more the language of symbolism rather than the verbum.

02:58:38.000 But a verb brings up a mental image.

02:58:40.000 Yes, that's right.

02:58:41.000 It triggers it, sure.

02:58:44.000 And so, as we were talking when we were on the national radio there, we were talking about how wicker is related to the ancient pre-Christian northern European means of immolation for ritual sacrifice, which was to put someone into a large anthropomorphic, that is to say, man-shaped wicker basket and set it on fire.

02:59:06.000 And then we were talking about how there were parallels between that and the Burning Man rituals that are done out in the Nevada desert at Black Rock.

02:59:14.000 But if we look at Wicker, and again, people can do an internet search or they can do this research on their own to see how much the wicker is associated with the occult and associated with ritual murder.

02:59:25.000 And when I was part of the regular establishment media, Uh, one of the stories that I was covering was the son of Sam murders, which I'm sure you'll recall with the son of Sam called David Berkowitz was the past.

02:59:35.000 Yeah, going around shooting people.

02:59:37.000 Yeah.

02:59:38.000 He, he, well, terrorizing New York with these very occult letters, which were not written by David Berkowitz.

02:59:43.000 They weren't in his handwriting.

02:59:45.000 He wasn't capable intellectually of writing them.

02:59:47.000 And he now admits that himself.

02:59:50.000 Unfortunately, Maury Terry, the lead investigator on that has muddied the waters in certain significant ways.

02:59:56.000 Uh, which is very unfortunate because about 90% of his book is correct and then 10% is misdirection.

03:00:02.000 But, uh, the son of Sam called himself Wicked King Wicker for absolutely no reason.

03:00:09.000 And the letters to Jimmy Breslin, which were subsequently publicized across the nation, first in the New York Daily News and later in Newsweek and Time and CBS and so forth, Uh, this name, Wicked King Wicker, came to be associated with the most electrifying ritual serial murder series, uh, really of that era.

03:00:31.000 The Son of Sam, uh, thing.

03:00:32.000 If you talk to native New Yorkers, uh, who were living in Manhattan or any one of the five, uh, boroughs at that time, uh, they feared Son of Sam and, uh, they began to associate, subconsciously, Wicker with Son of Sam.

03:00:46.000 And I followed this Wicker trail And they use it later on.

03:00:53.000 There was a movie set in Chicago and it was on ritual murder and brought in this wicker thing for absolutely no reason at all.

03:01:02.000 So it's clear that they want to associate the ancient connotations of wicker with the modern.

03:01:08.000 So what's the message?

03:01:10.000 What's the message of the Twilight language?

03:01:12.000 What they're saying is that these aren't just random murders.

03:01:15.000 By lone nuts, even though consciously, that's what we're telling you.

03:01:19.000 Officially, we're telling you this.

03:01:22.000 Unofficially, in the shadow side, in the mirror side, we're telling you something else.

03:01:27.000 Now, in the old days, when we were a hearty, vigorous, alert people, things like that would get people angry, they would get them curious, they would start investigating, and they'd do something about it.

03:01:40.000 There'd be arrests, there'd be prosecutions, you know?

03:01:43.000 Nowadays, the way we've been dumbed down, the way our will has been taken from us, all this does is to continue to murder our mind.

03:01:52.000 The more we see their control, the more we stand in awe of them.

03:01:57.000 And we don't actually act.

03:01:59.000 As far as I'm concerned, Charles Harrelson is very likely one of the men who assassinated John Fitzgerald Kennedy on November 22nd in Dallas.

03:02:08.000 Charles Harrelson is in a federal prison.

03:02:12.000 Well, he actually died just a few months ago.

03:02:12.000 There should be.

03:02:14.000 You may not have known that.

03:02:15.000 And of course, that's Woody Harrelson's dad, and he was convicted for shooting a federal judge in San Antonio at 400 yards with a .243 in the neck.

03:02:22.000 We know he did hits all over the world.

03:02:24.000 And the Dallas Times Herald, now defunct, has famous photos of him being brought out with the tramps.

03:02:30.000 He was one of the guys, and it's Charles Harrelson.

03:02:31.000 Go ahead.

03:02:32.000 Okay, so he died a couple of months ago.

03:02:34.000 Yes, that's news to me.

03:02:36.000 And when I confronted Woody Harrelson with this, because I had seen that he had made the statement that his father was a CIA agent, and I had also heard that when Charles Harrelson was arrested for the murder of the federal judge, he said, you can't touch me, I killed Kennedy.

03:02:52.000 And so I was able to arrange a meeting with Woody Harrelson, and he's an environmental activist.

03:03:00.000 No, I know Woody, I'm in a movie with him, I've hung out with him.

03:03:03.000 Okay, I don't know whether you asked him this question or not.

03:03:06.000 No, I was just saying, I was saying yes, I know he's really into the environment.

03:03:09.000 Go ahead.

03:03:10.000 Yeah, and so I felt that this was an opportunity given to me by God to encourage Woody to get his father to speak so that any perpetrators who are still alive we can bring to justice because that's where I'm at.

03:03:23.000 You know when he died?

03:03:24.000 He died right, it was actually about almost a year ago now.

03:03:26.000 It was right when the Rolling Stone came out.

03:03:29.000 You know, I've had St.

03:03:31.000 John Hunt, the son of the famous CIA Section Chief, CIA Black Ops Commander E. Howard Hunt, with all the tapes, we've even got video that we need to go ahead and get on the web.

03:03:39.000 So dangerous, but the audio's already out of him saying how he ran the operation to kill Kennedy, but go ahead.

03:03:44.000 You see, what's happening is, in other words, I could have just gotten Woody's autograph, and like a lot of your listeners, I'm interested in natural foods, and we could have discussed that, but I threw all that away in order to take the opportunity to confront him about his dad, and all he basically did was start crying, and he got very angry, and that ended the whole interview there.

03:04:06.000 It's obviously a very sore subject with him.

03:04:08.000 Yeah, you don't bring it up, Jim.

03:04:09.000 But, well, you have to because, you know, he wants to better the world.

03:04:13.000 What could be more betterment of the world than to solve this mystery and bring this horrible octopus that's behind the killing of this president to justice?

03:04:22.000 And that's really...

03:04:23.000 What I feel we should all be involved in.

03:04:25.000 Now, maybe my way isn't your way or another individual's way, but each of us have to be involved in a practical application of this.

03:04:34.000 And what I see, Alex, is that the conspiracy movement, the study of the occult, it's become a thrill-seeking movement.

03:04:42.000 It seems to be that the vast majority of the people involved are no longer actually trying to bring perpetrators to justice.

03:04:49.000 They're actually part of an occult roller coaster ride, which continues to dish out various revelations to them, because they're basically almost as dead as Frankenstein monster in the modern world.

03:05:01.000 They sit in traffic for two hours, they commute home, they eat dead food when they get home, switch on the boob tube, and the occult, the study of these mysteries, is kind of like an electric shock to Frankenstein's monster.

03:05:14.000 No, no, no.

03:05:15.000 Listen, I love that analogy. 0.99

03:05:17.000 Everything's so dead, everything's a lie, so the truth is like a moth to a flame, but you don't want to get burned by it, and the leadership of it is everyone saying, only I have the answer, and you're all scum.

03:05:28.000 I always work with everyone, but most people, there's very few quality people at the higher levels.

03:05:32.000 I think you're a quality gentleman person, very intelligent.

03:05:35.000 Uh, but I've tried to reach a handout to so many who always backstab me or flip out or say I'm covering up something when I have everybody on, basically.

03:05:42.000 Uh, but I mean, more than that, it's like a money-making thing.

03:05:45.000 And I don't mean just to have an office and operate and make films.

03:05:48.000 I mean, they're really, you know, I refuse the magic riot machines and all the crap pyramids and all the magic cures and all these other things.

03:05:56.000 You know, like other people, they accept it because they love the power. 0.74

03:05:59.000 They're also mad, as conspiracy leaders, that I'm the big fish and really hate me.

03:06:04.000 I've experienced it, where I could care less about crowds and people, and I wish, at many levels, I never would have done this.

03:06:11.000 And I'm a very private person, and I don't need ego, because I already, you know, am self-confident, you know, myself.

03:06:17.000 But yes, I know a very sick movement.

03:06:19.000 But at the top, it's sick, like everything else.

03:06:22.000 In the middle and the bottom, it's great people waking up.

03:06:24.000 Some people, it's like entertainment and funny, and ooh, look at this, and that's why they always get into the next thing, the UFO, the chupacabra, the turkey monster, the Loch Ness monster, the aliens, because it is a thrill-seeking voyeurism, and then it strays off the path.

03:06:41.000 I always try to stay in the reality.

03:06:44.000 Do you see the points I'm making?

03:06:45.000 Yes, and I think that's important to make those distinctions because it can be a kind of infotainment and just a thrill ride and that's very deadening because Alex, the cryptocracy is not static.

03:06:59.000 They move us from stage to stage in their human processing.

03:07:03.000 It's like downloads.

03:07:04.000 They give us the new download.

03:07:05.000 You can even see the new info.

03:07:07.000 We're now moving into the phase of artificial scarcity, cutting off water, cutting off food, tripling, quadrupling, the bureaucrats micromanaging.

03:07:14.000 Scarcity is a very important model to impose on people because it's part of spreading fear.

03:07:20.000 You know, Charlie Manson talked about the need to spread the fear, and he picked that up from the cryptocracy itself.

03:07:26.000 And the only thing we are to be afraid of is God.

03:07:28.000 If anyone tries to get you to be afraid of anything else other than God, you're dealing with a pied piper right there.

03:07:35.000 They say the beginning of knowledge is the fear of God.

03:07:38.000 That means the beginning of fearing the devil is the beginning of ignorance.

03:07:40.000 I tell people, be afraid of not living a full life.

03:07:42.000 Be afraid of not having honor and courage.

03:07:45.000 Be afraid of not fighting evil.

03:07:46.000 Be afraid of letting it win.

03:07:48.000 Be afraid of not charging out on the field and engaging the enemy.

03:07:52.000 Be afraid of not being the creature you should have been, and you better be afraid of not fighting this corruption.

03:08:03.000 People say I try to create fear.

03:08:05.000 It's the opposite.

03:08:06.000 I'm trying to empower people, and I'm trying to say scary things are going to happen if you do not get involved.

03:08:12.000 You see that difference there?

03:08:14.000 If they ever really saw a revolution developing, or as soon as they even begin to see an inkling or a harbinger of it, They go to Fox News and they get a fear factor going, you know, we found a bomb on an airplane or, you know, we've shut down the New York subway.

03:08:28.000 But they're not invincible, Mr. Hoffman.

03:08:30.000 No, they're not.

03:08:31.000 And let me just add, we took the mechanism of government-sponsored terror.

03:08:35.000 I saw that 12 years ago as their key nexus point, problem, reaction, solution, as many others inherently did.

03:08:40.000 I've been exposing government-sponsored terror since 1997 in film, and I continue to try to take that mechanism and destroy it, break it.

03:08:50.000 Have a renaissance, an awakening, an understanding, an enlightenment to problem-reaction-solution, whether it's fake water shortages or fake terror.

03:09:01.000 And I also see fear as a healthy thing if it's based in reality.

03:09:04.000 Why are you scared of a cliff?

03:09:05.000 Because your body instinctively, that archetype of that cliff, is telling you this is danger, Will Robinson, step back.

03:09:16.000 I mean, more in the fear, be afraid of not following God's law, God's commandments.

03:09:20.000 That is fear of God, because if you don't, you'll be destroyed.

03:09:23.000 You see the point I'm making?

03:09:24.000 Yes.

03:09:25.000 And the phase that we're in now, Alex, and I bring this out in my book, Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare, is the making manifest of all that is hidden, the revelation of the method, which I learned from my mentor, James Shelby Downard, who had studied the alchemical manuscripts and came across this term.

03:09:41.000 It's very unusual, it's unprecedented in the history of the conspiracy And because what we have previous to this time is concealment.

03:09:50.000 They always

03:09:51.000 Tightly and closely guarded their top secrets and of course they continue to do so today I want to see if you agree with me They have to have revelation of the method because they believe the new age is here where they will exterminate 80 plus percent of the earth They have to have everyone ready to accept it the horrors that are coming They have to have us ready and so it's also a conditioning like you said a deadening to hear all this and then it is kind of Marvel at the beast as he did on the Isle of Patmos as they rush over you kind of

03:10:21.000 Seeing it come on like a deer in the headlights.

03:10:24.000 Yes, very important point raised in Arthur C. Clarke's novel, Childhood's End, where that point is brought out.

03:10:31.000 The old cooking the frog idea of this process of gradualism and then accommodating us to a greater and greater evil.

03:10:39.000 But see, the evil is just not exterior, it's also in us, it's in our interior.

03:10:45.000 Well, let me ask you, why do you think they're now finally revealing everything?

03:10:49.000 Because it's a form of mind control.

03:10:51.000 Whenever anybody gets the truth, they're under obligation to do something with it.

03:10:56.000 The truth is not a hobby.

03:10:57.000 The truth, God didn't give us the truth.

03:10:59.000 He hasn't set it out in front of us.

03:11:02.000 You're right.

03:11:03.000 If we don't do something about it, it is an acquiescence to it, and then we then become accomplices after the fact.

03:11:10.000 Exactly.

03:11:11.000 If I have time, very quickly, an example.

03:11:14.000 If you went next door, and this is all hypothetical, I didn't even know you were married until I heard you refer to your wife.

03:11:21.000 This is strictly hypothetical, but if you went next door to your neighbor's house, and they were showing home movies from their trip to Jamaica or Hawaii or whatever, and very briefly, out of the corner of your eye, for one second in the movie, it showed your wife in the embrace of your neighbor.

03:11:39.000 And you know, you weren't sure that you saw it.

03:11:41.000 Your neighbor's a great guy, your wife's a great woman, so you just sort of subliminally just push it out and say, oh, I must be tired or something.

03:11:47.000 And then you watch the whole movie for another five minutes, and you see that image again, only it's not one second, it's two seconds.

03:11:54.000 Now you're pretty sure you saw it.

03:11:56.000 You ask your friend to run it back.

03:11:58.000 It's not in there again.

03:11:59.000 You go home, you start to investigate a little bit, you see evidence that, uh, again, this is hypothetical, that your wife was committing adultery.

03:12:07.000 Okay, now you're under obligation.

03:12:10.000 You have a truth that's been placed in front of you.

03:12:12.000 Now, do you do something about it?

03:12:14.000 Do you call her out on it?

03:12:16.000 Or do you willfully double-think and crime-stop and decide to ignore it? 0.91

03:12:21.000 Now you have to go along with her having orgies in front of you and denying it, which is why they show torture on TV, and why CBS on purpose showed lower levels of the torture, was to get people to then say, oh, it's no big deal, and now you've accepted the rape of children. 0.99

03:12:37.000 Now you've gone straight to hell. 0.98

03:12:39.000 You've got it right there, Alex. 0.99

03:12:39.000 Exactly. 0.99

03:12:40.000 Your journey towards the dark side is now complete.

03:12:44.000 The movie Videodrome showed that people were going to be getting doses of sadomasochistic television and that those doses were going to create a change in their brain and in their mind.

03:12:54.000 A movie done by David Cronenberg.

03:12:56.000 I believe in the late 1980s and now it's come true in front of us because we are not acting.

03:13:02.000 Now when people say, well Mr. Hoffman, what do you mean by act?

03:13:05.000 Do you want us to go out and riot?

03:13:07.000 Well, I can give you one example.

03:13:09.000 Stop watching television!

03:13:10.000 Don't let your children watch it! 1.00

03:13:12.000 I've got a video.

03:13:13.000 I can see the Longshoremen on the West Coast yesterday.

03:13:16.000 The union there, not from the union heads, but from the grassroots.

03:13:20.000 Stopped all loading of boats to protest the Iraq War.

03:13:24.000 If we could have that across the United States... That's what they're worried about is spontaneous, and you know, this archetypal Sixth Sense thing works both ways.

03:13:34.000 I think that, you know, we can say they're letting it, you know, we're letting them bring it out.

03:13:39.000 I think a lot of the reason they're bringing it out now, and I think they rationalize, they're delusional too, they are letting a lot of this come out now because they can't stop it anyways.

03:13:47.000 I mean, I think they knew the net would bring some of it out, but not this bad.

03:13:50.000 I mean, now they're wanting to clamp down on it.

03:13:52.000 I don't think they're God and all-powerful. 0.99

03:13:53.000 I think they're going to get their butt kicked. 0.98

03:13:55.000 Oh, certainly they want to control the information, and they reveal it in increments. 0.99

03:14:00.000 Certainly they oppose me.

03:14:02.000 There's a very heavy boycott on me, both on the left and the right.

03:14:07.000 We get interference all the time financially.

03:14:09.000 There's sabotage of our website.

03:14:12.000 Every dirty trick in the book is being done to silence me, and probably you've had some of that treatment as well.

03:14:17.000 Well, what you do is every time they attack you, you just start an extra website.

03:14:20.000 You get like five, ten.

03:14:21.000 They go, oh thank you, you attacked.

03:14:23.000 I mean, that's my rule.

03:14:24.000 I'm drawing a picture for the viewers out there, and you can pull these graphs up.

03:14:28.000 They're all pretty similar.

03:14:29.000 But basically, you get 1950.

03:14:33.000 Okay, you've got the 40s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and on.

03:14:34.000 the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and on.

03:14:38.000 And as TV popularizes, as television gets into homes, you see an immediate spike.

03:14:56.000 In fact, I guess they're not putting it on screen.

03:14:56.000 Okay.

03:14:56.000 Here Here's the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.

03:14:57.000 You can go pull these graphs up.

03:14:59.000 This is just a kind of a guesstimation or a... What's the term when you're not quoting someone exactly?

03:15:06.000 Approximation.

03:15:07.000 Yeah, an approximation or it's a... When you say... Well, I'm not quoting someone.

03:15:11.000 Oh, you mean a paraphrase.

03:15:12.000 A paraphrase, yeah.

03:15:13.000 I mean, you can go pull the graphs up, but like the 40s, TV stars, late 40s.

03:15:17.000 By early 1950s, it's very popular.

03:15:20.000 And then you get almost total television watching by then.

03:15:23.000 Then as they show violence on TV, it just skyrockets.

03:15:27.000 Violence just absolutely skyrockets as they show violence on television.

03:15:33.000 So you get television, and then as soon as you get television, violence just skyrockets as they show you the television.

03:15:39.000 That's the Videodrome.

03:15:40.000 That's what Cronenberg's saying.

03:15:43.000 Well, that's right, and also we have to realize that it's happening on the Internet.

03:15:46.000 I mean, the Internet is a great source of alternative information up to a point.

03:15:50.000 I still encourage people to get a classical education and to read part of a book every day besides their regular Bible reading, but there's nothing like confronting a text in the quiet of your home for the contemplation, meditation, and The edification of your mind.

03:16:06.000 I'm still a 19th century print reactionary when it comes to the utility of the printed word.

03:16:12.000 I'm rereading Cooper's Last of the Mohicans.

03:16:15.000 That's really hard to put down at 2am.

03:16:17.000 Yeah, that's good.

03:16:19.000 And so one of the things I want to warn people about the internet is if you've got any kids in the house, any teenagers, anybody younger than that, Uh, the pornography is free access, and if you don't have a super strong filter on there, and the software is available, and somebody said, well, what if my kid is a hacker and he hacks into it?

03:16:36.000 Well, then I guess you'll have to get rid of the internet.

03:16:38.000 Well, see, there's any rationalization to not even do basic controls.

03:16:42.000 Well, I mean, I don't, I mean, I let my children play a few games on the computer, like drawing games and things, but I just don't let them on it unless I'm there.

03:16:49.000 Right, because if you don't have the filter on there, they're going to lose their innocence in about 90 seconds.

03:16:53.000 They can be 7, 8, 9, 10 years old.

03:16:55.000 They're going to see the rawest, most hardcore pornography.

03:16:58.000 And by the way, people think, you know, the devil's advertised as a hot woman in red with horns, you know, the neck of devil archetypal rockabilly image, and it's so much fun and cool.

03:17:08.000 Really, as you lose your innocence, you lose the delicate perception of the walls of reality.

03:17:13.000 And so innocence is actually more advanced.

03:17:18.000 As you become more worldly, it's actually like your feelers have been seared and burned off.

03:17:23.000 I mean, I feel like I've gone through hell and back, and lost a lot of my humanity just plumbing, you know, studying the New World Order.

03:17:29.000 Do you see the point I'm making?

03:17:31.000 Yes, it's a special apostolate, and you have to have a special grace from God to do it, because people like you and I who are involved in this area of study have to be very careful that we maintain our own mental equilibrium and our spiritual connection.

03:17:44.000 I have to be honest, all the time I just feel myself becoming evil.

03:17:47.000 But I think that it's important that your listeners know that there's a point where they've received all the information they need to have and they need to begin to organize as those longshoremen did.

03:17:59.000 And you notice, Alex, how little media play That wonderful, spontaneous, grassroots protest out there.

03:18:05.000 I didn't know!

03:18:06.000 I didn't know!

03:18:07.000 Yeah.

03:18:08.000 But they don't want us to know, because the next thing you know, the Association of Retired Old Ladies will be taking their cars to the gas station, parking them, and walking away. 1.00

03:18:18.000 I mean, that's the kind of message where Bush and these other Satanists, these skull-and-bones-ers, really thrive, is when we give them our consent through our silence.

03:18:28.000 And again, it has to be a proper form of protest.

03:18:32.000 It has to be something that is not carnal but spiritual.

03:18:35.000 Okay, listen, I'm going to rampage through a bunch of calls.

03:18:37.000 We've had you here with us for two hours, ten minutes, and I don't want to abuse too much more of your time, and I've got about ten calls for you.

03:18:42.000 Each caller gets one minute, folks.

03:18:43.000 We've got to move fast.

03:18:45.000 But in closing, for my questions, Bush, I think they put that doddering crazy man in there just to destroy the image of the presidency, to make America look bad worldwide while we do the globalist dirty work.

03:18:57.000 In fact, I know they did that. 0.98

03:19:00.000 But just to see him, I mean, he is a literal pit demon incarnate.

03:19:04.000 It's so obvious.

03:19:04.000 How could people not see that?

03:19:07.000 It seems obvious to me, but spiritual blindness is one of the first things that people get infected with when they have an insufficient love for the truth, and God is the one who sends it to them, the blindness.

03:19:07.000 I agree.

03:19:20.000 He hates it when we deliberately push away the truth and don't love it.

03:19:24.000 And there's quite an obligation when you love the truth.

03:19:27.000 Those who are truth lovers understand that you may not turn out to be the wealthiest or...

03:19:32.000 The most popular person, but you're doing what God put you on this earth to do, and when you refuse that, then you get saddled with Bush.

03:19:39.000 Bush is the president that we deserve based on the degenerated state of the American people today.

03:19:45.000 The rehabilitation of this country starts with the spiritual renewal of each one of us, that each one of us pledges We will never steal anything again in our lives, not even a penny.

03:19:54.000 We will never tell a lie.

03:19:55.000 If somebody calls us up at home and we don't want to talk to them, we're going to have to tell our children, hey kids, tell them I can't talk right now.

03:20:01.000 We're not even going to lie at that level.

03:20:04.000 And when we build ourselves up from that to the longshoremen on the west coast that refuse to load those ships because they're tired, Of this murder and this genocide in the name of the American people on up.

03:20:16.000 Then we've got a movement, but we have to move beyond simply infotainment and simply gathering all of this thrilling information because that can inculcate morbidity in us and that in itself is a form of passivity that the cryptocracy can use.

03:20:31.000 I agree with you to a certain extent, for those that are doing nothing but getting into his infotainment.

03:20:37.000 But I think most people, it's an explosive growth and awakening, and I have a more positive view overall.

03:20:43.000 We need to take action with the knowledge we have.

03:20:46.000 I think that's what you're saying.

03:20:47.000 Yes.

03:20:48.000 Listen, we've got to rampage through these calls quickly.

03:20:48.000 Okay.

03:20:50.000 We're going to talk right now to Eric in Philadelphia.

03:20:54.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

03:20:56.000 Eric, thanks for holding.

03:20:58.000 Turn the phone up, it's always good.

03:20:59.000 No, I have the phone up.

03:21:00.000 How you doing?

03:21:01.000 Good, go ahead.

03:21:02.000 Yeah, you can go ahead and talk now, sir.

03:21:06.000 Alright.

03:21:08.000 I'm here to show you guys we're talking about the Luciferian effect.

03:21:11.000 Now, your phone's really bad.

03:21:13.000 I don't know why it's doing that.

03:21:14.000 Just try to make your point quickly.

03:21:15.000 Hold on, I'll fix it.

03:21:18.000 Oh, he's on a voice changer.

03:21:20.000 Oh, man.

03:21:22.000 I'm gonna have to let you go.

03:21:24.000 I'm sorry, sir.

03:21:25.000 I just can't do it.

03:21:26.000 I don't know if it's our phone system or what, but we'll find out here in a minute.

03:21:29.000 You can call back and see if your line's better, sir.

03:21:31.000 Who's up next?

03:21:33.000 Josh in Florida.

03:21:34.000 You're on the air.

03:21:35.000 Hey, how you doing?

03:21:37.000 It's us.

03:21:38.000 It's us.

03:21:38.000 Can you hear me?

03:21:39.000 Go ahead and try now.

03:21:41.000 Hello?

03:21:42.000 I may have fixed it.

03:21:43.000 I may have accidentally hit a button.

03:21:44.000 The other guy can call back.

03:21:45.000 Go ahead, Josh.

03:21:45.000 Hey, how are you doing?

03:21:47.000 Good.

03:21:48.000 Great show today.

03:21:50.000 Text Mars or Mr. Hoffman.

03:21:52.000 Quick question.

03:21:53.000 Mr. Hoffman, how do you feel about the correlation of the Book of Enoch, Genesis Chapter 5, the Epic of Gilgamesh, and the story with Noah, and the Sumerian tablets?

03:22:08.000 Well, there's an attempt, and I don't want to stigmatize it as necessarily New Age, but certainly out of the Da Vinci Code genre of books.

03:22:19.000 To attack the credibility of the Bible and bring new texts.

03:22:22.000 And also to associate it with the eternal pagan psychodrama.

03:22:25.000 and if there's one thing the Old Testament is not, and what makes it unique is it stands apart and separate from that eternal pagan psychodrama, you can see all the hallmarks of that paganism in Judaism, where, for example, they believe in reincarnation, and true Israelites, true Christians do not.

03:22:41.000 They believe in magic and superstition, true Israelites and true Christians do not. 1.00

03:22:46.000 As far as the Epic of Gilgamesh goes, you can see parallels between Gilgamesh, you can see certain parallels because, for example, the deluge, The deluge exists in many cultures because they're witnesses to a fact that actually happened.

03:23:01.000 But it doesn't mean that the Bible grows out of that type of paganism.

03:23:07.000 I'm not an Old Testament scholar here.

03:23:08.000 My specialty is Judaism, Talmud, Kabbalah, and secret societies.

03:23:13.000 There are probably other people... Okay, let me get a comment from the caller.

03:23:16.000 Yeah, we've got to move on or we'll be here all day.

03:23:18.000 Does that answer your question, Josh?

03:23:22.000 Yeah, and just the Adonai and the Nephilim and Genesis chapter 5, any comment on that would be great.

03:23:28.000 I'll take that off there.

03:23:29.000 Sure, the Nephilim is really what brought the flood down on us because of the practices that were going on.

03:23:36.000 We're seeing a lot of these practices today, these bestial practices.

03:23:40.000 The evolutionists say that we were apes and we're headed towards this higher state.

03:23:45.000 I say that we began in a state of humanity and the cryptocracy is bestializing us down to the level... Well, let's be clear.

03:23:53.000 Apes don't do what humans do. 0.90

03:23:55.000 Yeah, we don't even, that's right, we've sunk beneath them, and so we can see parallels with the people, these depraved people in Genesis, we can see those parallels today in the modern world.

03:24:06.000 Yeah, it looks like genetic engineering to me from what it says.

03:24:09.000 Okay, let's go ahead and talk to Eric and Philly, you're on the air, sorry about the phone problem.

03:24:14.000 Hey, not a problem, man.

03:24:15.000 I think today's probably your best show, Alex.

03:24:19.000 Okay, thank you, go ahead.

03:24:20.000 Alright.

03:24:22.000 Luciferians have been around for thousands of years, correct?

03:24:28.000 Well, I wouldn't necessarily use the word Lucifer, but because that means light-bearer, and you can get him, but I would say that Satanists have been, yes, and they use the name Lucifer sometimes, yes.

03:24:38.000 Well, Lucifer, I mean, like, you see a lot of, like, things have to do with light, like the Statue of Liberty's torch, and... Yeah, that's a man in drag.

03:24:48.000 No, it really is.

03:24:49.000 That French had meant that. 0.89

03:24:51.000 You want to explain that to him, Mike, how it's a Masonic, garbed man?

03:24:56.000 Well, I'm going to take his question and then we'll see what he has to say from there.

03:24:59.000 Go ahead, sir.

03:25:03.000 Alright.

03:25:03.000 Also, you guys were talking about the Zionist disinfo that's going around.

03:25:09.000 Yes.

03:25:10.000 I had a guy Tell me that Dylan Avery is a Zionist Conspirator because he didn't have the dancing Israelis in his 9-11 movie.

03:25:22.000 And that's the kind of stuff that goes around.

03:25:24.000 Well, yeah, I mean, that's like an inquisitor.

03:25:26.000 It's like they're the thought police.

03:25:28.000 Everyone must say exactly and only on one subject.

03:25:31.000 And my show's got to be 24 hours a day, only that.

03:25:34.000 Now, this is a syndicated radio show.

03:25:36.000 We're covering everything.

03:25:38.000 But, yeah, Dylan Avery... By the way, I'm looking at Jason Burma's out the window.

03:25:44.000 He's out there making a film that a large portion of it is about that right now.

03:25:48.000 Why don't you ask him what he has to say about it?

03:25:52.000 uh... well i mean i'm glad you know i'd really like that because like i said i like what he's out there and in the philip look i appreciate your call you see i'm here with michael dot on about as i said text mars on i had another guest on earlier this week talking about this i've always had guest on talking about this but but but once the sacrament That Alex Jones is bad and doesn't talk about these issues is set.

03:26:16.000 People can't ever go back and say that they were wrong, that I'm not a Likudnik or something, okay?

03:26:24.000 Yeah, it's part of the morbidity, Alex, of these people.

03:26:28.000 Exactly!

03:26:29.000 It's just dark hatred and cussing at people.

03:26:31.000 Yeah, that's what I mean.

03:26:32.000 They need to get out of their house, away from their computer, read a book, say some prayers, and get out into the real world.

03:26:39.000 I know that I was part of a 9-11 session last summer, and of course I believe that the 9-11 attacks are a hoax.

03:26:48.000 But I find that there are these inquisitors or people who have set themselves up as the pulps of the 9-11 conspiracy, and if I deviate 1% from their line of thought, then I'm as bad as Bush or King.

03:27:01.000 Well, exactly, and then we all just factionalize.

03:27:04.000 And my whole issue here is, you're a sharp guy, Michael Hoffman.

03:27:07.000 You know, I didn't do any pre-interview with you.

03:27:09.000 I didn't say what you could talk about.

03:27:10.000 We take real phone calls.

03:27:12.000 These guys go on the web and say my guests are fake, my calls are fake, it's all fake.

03:27:16.000 But then they call into the show, and I'm not even mad at that guy.

03:27:19.000 But here, hell, let's inquisit.

03:27:20.000 I just won't get home to see my wife.

03:27:22.000 Hey, come on in here, Burmish. 1.00

03:27:23.000 You don't know what I'm talking about, but come on in here.

03:27:25.000 Or maybe you are.

03:27:26.000 You better not be listening to the show.

03:27:27.000 You're supposed to be out there working and getting that film done.

03:27:29.000 Okay, now you're making a film exposing the Israeli connection.

03:27:32.000 A big part of it.

03:27:32.000 Big risk to you.

03:27:33.000 You know, big cojones. 1.00

03:27:34.000 You're going to be demonized. 1.00

03:27:36.000 You're the evil Zionist who has now been ordered to do this so you don't blow your cover. 0.99

03:27:40.000 I mean, that's how it's going. 0.81

03:27:41.000 See, we can't even then expose it.

03:27:43.000 We have to be bad.

03:27:44.000 I'm sure that's exactly how they're going to play it out, is that, oh my God, he is exposing it, but it's seven years later.

03:27:49.000 Listen, I've talked about this on my radio show dozens of times.

03:27:53.000 I talk about it in talks.

03:27:54.000 Out there, you're supposed to be working.

03:27:54.000 What are you doing listening to the show?

03:27:55.000 I am working, but you just pointed at me, Alex.

03:27:58.000 Oh, so you knew what I was saying when I just said it.

03:28:00.000 Yeah, yeah, because the feed's going live out there, too, so we heard that.

03:28:03.000 But yeah, basically, you know, I live with Dylan.

03:28:05.000 I don't live with Dylan anymore, but I lived with Dylan for about two years.

03:28:08.000 We're well aware of the Israeli involvement.

03:28:10.000 Yeah, but see, this is a petty power trip.

03:28:11.000 By answering the Inquisitor, then it's more inquisiting.

03:28:16.000 And see, they have these people that just sit up there questioning.

03:28:18.000 Like, I don't question everyone.

03:28:20.000 Where are you from, Hoffman?

03:28:21.000 Who's paying you to do this, Hoffman?

03:28:23.000 Who's paying you, Burmese? 1.00

03:28:25.000 I mean, I know that the globalists aren't all-powerful.

03:28:27.000 They put out propaganda from big outlets, and then they have their minions regurgitated who don't even know they're part of the program.

03:28:33.000 That's why their symbol's the pyramid.

03:28:34.000 They're not all-powerful.

03:28:35.000 They don't control everybody.

03:28:37.000 And I tell folks, instead of thinking, I'm an agent all day, go out and wake somebody up.

03:28:41.000 Go get involved.

03:28:42.000 Go to a rally.

03:28:43.000 Yeah, go figure out a boycott, like Mr. Hoffman said.

03:28:46.000 But just submit to the guy, show him he has power.

03:28:48.000 Why didn't you guys put the Israelis in there? 0.88

03:28:50.000 Because it's a two-hour and nine-minute movie, Alex.

03:28:53.000 We could barely put in the $100,000 wire transfer from the ISI. 0.98

03:28:57.000 Well, also, let's be honest, it's an area we can't absolutely connect all the dots on, and the scum that says it's the Jews running it all is so horrible and virulent, attacking people that you don't want to be associated with them. 0.98

03:29:11.000 I mean, Hoffman, are you getting the point we're making here? 0.98

03:29:14.000 Well, sure, because I ran into it at that 9-11 meeting last summer, and it was a good one, run by Bruce Lichty, a California attorney, and a very fine man in my experience.

03:29:25.000 And what I found was it was so absurd that there was a professor from the Berkeley area there, a very knowledgeable man, and he was talking about this heresy hunting that's going on inside the 9-11 movement, which, of course, there's a hidden hand behind it because it can destroy us with all the distrust and And uh, suspicion that's going on.

03:29:45.000 But what I found was hilarious was one of the 9-11 activists would not come to the meeting because I was there, because he said that Hoffman doesn't believe that there were homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz.

03:29:59.000 So he's just beyond the pale and I can't meet with him.

03:30:03.000 And I thought to myself, but people told me not to go to the meeting because there were 9-11 deniers there and they're beyond the pale.

03:30:12.000 If we can't have goodwill for each other, If we can't have freedom of speech and freedom of inquiry and not automatically assume that the other guy is an agent or a spy or evil just because he descends from us, we're not going to make it.

03:30:26.000 Yeah, that is the ether in which these people swim.

03:30:30.000 Instead of that caller calling in and commending me for having the substantive courage to talk about these issues on air, which could also then restrict the number of people we can reach later to get the main message out, you have to weigh all that.

03:30:41.000 Instead of saying, great job, it's no, you have covered up. 0.99

03:30:45.000 And so now I'm like, God, these people are scum. 1.00

03:30:49.000 Maybe they're completely wrong about things. 1.00

03:30:52.000 But I guess that's really it.

03:30:53.000 I mean, I guess I do have a classical education.

03:30:55.000 Not that I'm smart, but I've seen how humans have worked before, and so I tend to know the patterns.

03:31:00.000 And I don't think a lot of these people really have lived that much.

03:31:02.000 I mean, maybe I'm not saying I'm different, but I just don't understand it.

03:31:07.000 I mean, there's no discernment either.

03:31:12.000 Well, a lot of these people are crippled in mind, body, and soul.

03:31:17.000 They use this movement for whatever their own psychological hang-ups and problems are.

03:31:22.000 You know, when you go to a left-wing meeting, when you meet with Norman Finkelstein and he's a An independent Judaic, and I disagree with some of his things, but I admire his courage greatly. 0.81

03:31:34.000 And boy, when he talks about the Middle East or Palestine, he gave a speech recently at MIT in Massachusetts that I saw.

03:31:40.000 A lot of the Arab people were there disagreed with him.

03:31:44.000 It was all polite.

03:31:45.000 It was courteous.

03:31:46.000 He did a wonderful thing.

03:31:47.000 He spoke for about an hour, and he said, you know, I'm going to take questions now.

03:31:52.000 And since you all sat respectfully and heard me, I'm now going to give you the opportunity to ask me a question, and I want the first questions to go to those who disagree with me the strongest.

03:32:03.000 Now, there was goodwill.

03:32:04.000 He didn't fear his opposition the way rabbis do. 1.00

03:32:08.000 He offered to his worst enemies in the audience an opportunity to go after him.

03:32:13.000 And we don't see that largesse so much.

03:32:15.000 By the way, I do that.

03:32:17.000 I do that on my show.

03:32:18.000 I see disagreeers go to the head of the line.

03:32:20.000 But my whole point is, instead of it being about this process of fighting with each other, can't we just move on and have our topics be about info?

03:32:27.000 See, I think half our movement, you're worried about morbidity and doing nothing.

03:32:31.000 More of it is, it's not that so much as it is ninnying and fighting about who's got all the correct answers instead of doing core research.

03:32:40.000 I mean, my gosh, if you listen to my show for a week, it's just so many views, ideas, but a general picture comes in at so many angles, and it increases your thought.

03:32:49.000 That's why we make so much news, on the internet, is because we interview everybody, and that's what it's about.

03:32:56.000 But you will never be forgiven, Burmese. 1.00

03:32:58.000 I want everybody to know you're a scum, and you've been covering up. 1.00

03:33:03.000 And how dare you make this film about Israeli involvement 9-11? 1.00

03:33:07.000 You are filled!

03:33:09.000 And you'll get attacked by the ADL and by the Aryan Nation. 1.00

03:33:12.000 Absolutely, and I just want to let everybody out there, not only are we going to cover the dancing Israelis, we're going to cover the ones that were caught at the George Washington Bridge. 0.84

03:33:20.000 We're going to cover Amdocs, we're going to cover Converse, we're going to show how this is part of an international spy ring.

03:33:26.000 Sabel Edmonds, when she told her story to the Times Online, she discussed, hey, there were Turkish moles, there was Israeli moles, and there was a Pakistani operation going through too.

03:33:36.000 And Mahmoud Ahmed was the one that headed that up.

03:33:38.000 See, there's different operational arms in 9-11.

03:33:40.000 You had the Israelis, who were more on the ground to, you know, tape the event, possibly let off some of the explosives.

03:33:47.000 Then you had the Pakistanis, No, no, it's like we're saying three guys robbed the bank. 1.00

03:33:51.000 They're all three just as guilty. 0.98

03:33:52.000 Who are the patsies. 0.96

03:33:53.000 Yeah, creating the patsies.

03:33:55.000 And the Turks are probably working hand-in-hand with both the Israelis and the Pakistanis to give coverage to the people inside our own government.

03:34:02.000 Yeah, but see, to say that there were different governments involved doesn't give cover to Israel, but people will claim that.

03:34:06.000 No, no, it's like we're saying three guys robbed the bank.

03:34:09.000 They're all three just as guilty.

03:34:10.000 And they're like, no!

03:34:11.000 It's like when I say LBJ, because the admirals that were there and the captains and everybody, you know, they told me, we believe LBJ was involved, it was all set up with Israel. 0.96

03:34:19.000 That makes Israel more guilty and LBJ more guilty. 0.74

03:34:22.000 It doesn't give them cover.

03:34:24.000 You see, again, it's these people, that's why Christian religions break into thousands of pieces, because a new preacher wants to attack the old preacher to go set up his new group and make it about, it's jealousy of this radio show is the main thing. 0.92

03:34:37.000 But hold on.

03:34:37.000 We've spent enough time on this distraction.

03:34:39.000 Now no one else gets to talk and talk to guests because that person called in with that.

03:34:44.000 And then we have to defend this.

03:34:45.000 But Burmiss, we're going to have you filling in next Friday when I'm out of town.

03:34:48.000 Thanks for coming in with us. 0.98

03:34:49.000 You're evil and bad. 0.97

03:34:49.000 Thank you, sir. 0.97

03:34:50.000 Thank you. 0.99

03:34:50.000 Get out of here, you evil cover-up person. 0.99

03:34:53.000 Take care. 0.81

03:34:54.000 I just want to say, Alex, that they push the idea that knowledge is power.

03:34:59.000 DARPA's slogan was scientia et potentia.

03:35:02.000 I don't believe that knowledge is power.

03:35:04.000 I believe that power lies in the ability to detect fraud.

03:35:07.000 And that's something that you can really only learn through a lifetime of careful study, and you need teachers.

03:35:13.000 It isn't simply a flood of knowledge and information, but it's the ability to detect fraud.

03:35:18.000 Well, I mean, the people perish for lack of knowledge, though.

03:35:21.000 Well, yes, that's true.

03:35:22.000 That's one component of it, but I think there's a lot of folks that believe that knowledge itself is a palliative, and once you have this knowledge, but what happens is so many people have all these competing theories that folks expose themselves to an alternative, but if they don't have the ability to detect fraud, they end up more confused than even the regular man on the street.

03:35:42.000 I'm not saying that you're wrong for having a program where you allow competing points of view.

03:35:47.000 I think that that's excellent because, as I said, there's a boycott against our work, and you're one of the few that have afforded us a national platform, and I'm grateful for that.

03:35:55.000 Yeah, but see, there's a boycott against you because you're actually being reasonable and trying to point at facts.

03:36:00.000 That's what the establishment doesn't like. 1.00

03:36:03.000 They want a bunch of idiots. 1.00

03:36:06.000 Again, we've just never been afforded the credit that we've always covered this. 1.00

03:36:10.000 It's just that we have it at a frothing, mindless, peon level, you know, way of doing things, and our job is to get people thinking, and to make no group feel bad, to make no group feel like we hate them, because we don't want to empower those groups by making them feel like they've been persecuted, because then they empower their corrupt masters.

03:36:28.000 Precisely.

03:36:29.000 And also, we want to do some counterintelligence where they come over to us.

03:36:33.000 So many times We have had the cryptocracy infiltrate our ranks.

03:36:38.000 How about us infiltrating their ranks by getting people of goodwill to understand we don't hate them, we want to lift burdens off their shoulders, and let's all work for the truth together.

03:36:48.000 Okay, let's go to another call.

03:36:50.000 Hear how I'm bad.

03:36:51.000 And screen calls, even though they can call right in.

03:36:54.000 Let's go to Will in Philly.

03:36:55.000 I'm just joking.

03:36:56.000 Go ahead, Will.

03:36:59.000 For people out there not aware, make no mistake, there's a multi-million dollar campaign out there to balkanize the truth movement, and Alex, a large chunk of it's been on you, I'm sure you know this.

03:37:09.000 Oh my god, it's incredible!

03:37:11.000 It's unbelievable.

03:37:12.000 I commend you, man.

03:37:14.000 When you started getting nuts about the murder, the Mossad murder, torture of Riyad Hamed, I just knew, I said to my friend, I said, he's going to get death threats.

03:37:26.000 If you continue to expose Zionism for the wretched ideology, and that's the operative word, it's not a religion, that it is, you're going to start feeling the heat, brother, and I just want you to take precautions. 0.90

03:37:38.000 You can go online and you can see true Torah Jews against Zionism getting spat on by Zionist apologists and blind followers. 0.78

03:37:46.000 And Herzl, Theodore Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, talked about how useful anti-Semitism could be. 0.90

03:37:53.000 He said something to the effect that it is essential that the sufferings of Jews become worse.

03:37:58.000 No, that's an exact quote. 0.99

03:38:03.000 Well, see, I mean, that's like the ADL endorsing Schwarzenegger, who's a Nazi gay porn guy. 1.00

03:38:08.000 Crazy Hitler. 0.99

03:38:09.000 But that's okay, but then if you're for free speech, you're Hitler now. 0.90

03:38:14.000 See, but our own movement's calling for speech control.

03:38:17.000 Our own movement's calling for only having balkanization.

03:38:20.000 See, no, I am for the Bill of Rights.

03:38:22.000 I am for the Constitution.

03:38:24.000 I appreciate your call.

03:38:25.000 Great caller, but... Go ahead, Will.

03:38:27.000 Anthony Hilder has a Catholic connection.

03:38:29.000 I have his number if you want.

03:38:30.000 You said a minute, brother.

03:38:31.000 Mr. Hoffman, I just want to thank you.

03:38:35.000 Thank you.

03:38:35.000 You're probably the most insightful guest this month.

03:38:39.000 Anthony Hilder has a Catholic connection.

03:38:42.000 I have his number if you want, but you can put this Jesuit nonsense to bed. 1.00

03:38:46.000 Well, no, I've had Anthony Hilder on many times.

03:38:51.000 There's no putting it to bed.

03:38:52.000 All these groups want to balkanize us and fight over who runs different heads of the Hydra, instead of just going, we've got an evil world government with a bunch of occultists running.

03:39:01.000 And I appreciate your call.

03:39:02.000 I've got to go.

03:39:03.000 Listen, I've got to let you go.

03:39:05.000 And I'll be called to censor for that.

03:39:06.000 Probably not by him, but by somebody else.

03:39:08.000 I've got to move on.

03:39:09.000 We're almost past six hours here.

03:39:12.000 Let's go ahead and take a call from Kyle in Connecticut.

03:39:16.000 Kyle, go ahead.

03:39:17.000 Hey Alex, thanks for stepping it up and going the extra mile.

03:39:22.000 Um, I just have a question for, uh, I'm sick of these Reptoid, uh, Anunnaki, um, Nabooru people that are on your site. 1.00

03:39:33.000 How do you deal with them?

03:39:35.000 Well, I can't censor them.

03:39:37.000 I only censor people that call for violence, and then report me for the violence they post on my comments.

03:39:43.000 And we can make a registration tomorrow, but I tried to let people have First Amendment, and of course the moles come in, and then we kick people off who put links to porn, and they say we're censoring. 0.94

03:39:54.000 Again, it shouldn't be about me, folks.

03:39:56.000 This is the mental illness they've ingrained in us to only be able to talk about We're doing it right now, and then you try to fix it, but the more you talk about them, the worse it gets. 0.68

03:40:05.000 You notice for two hours with Hoffman, I talked about issues, and now we go to calls, and we can see I'm not attacking you, but that's one reason my show's been successful, is I've always shut this stuff down.

03:40:15.000 And I've even shut down defending me, because I don't care.

03:40:21.000 Hoffman, you got any comments?

03:40:23.000 Well, I wanted to mention our website, revisionisthistory.org, and I'm not quite I know you're talking about some kind of smog that hits your website and everything, and that's certainly endemic to our movement.

03:40:37.000 The previous caller had mentioned the so-called Torah True Judaics, who have received a lot of flak for going over to Iran and participating in the revisionist conference.

03:40:48.000 But you have to understand that these are traditional followers of the Talmud and the fact that they do these things does raise the prestige of the Talmud and it doesn't change the nature, the Babylonian nature of the Talmud.

03:40:59.000 So we have to be aware and weigh in the balance whether this is a Trojan horse or not.

03:41:05.000 Okay, let's go ahead now and talk to Todd in North Carolina.

03:41:11.000 Todd, you're on the air.

03:41:12.000 Hey Alex, I enjoyed the show today.

03:41:15.000 I had a question.

03:41:18.000 I've been following several different streams of information, including your show.

03:41:23.000 One of the people out there, his name's Joel Rosenberg, I don't know if you've heard of him.

03:41:29.000 He wrote a book called Epicenter, and he basically, he is a Russian Jew, who's a converted Jew, if that's what you want to call it.

03:41:40.000 I work for Rush Limbaugh and Forbes Magazine.

03:41:45.000 Okay, what's he saying?

03:41:48.000 Well, basically, his book, Epicenter, it talks about Ezekiel 38 and 39, the war of Gog and Magog, and how Russia and Iran would have this alliance against Israel.

03:42:00.000 Oh yeah, I think I've actually heard him.

03:42:02.000 That's one of the guys I've heard on the show saying, we're about to have nuclear war, the Messiah is going to come, and he goes around all the Christian churches, just kidding him.

03:42:11.000 Yeah, he's on Glenn Beck, and he's been on The Office and everything.

03:42:14.000 I've heard it.

03:42:15.000 Is that some sort of misdirection like you all were talking about?

03:42:18.000 What do you mean misdirection?

03:42:19.000 That's the takeover of the churches and making them believe they're going to make Jesus come by launching nuclear weapons.

03:42:26.000 It's a cold-blooded, secular manipulation of the Christians that have been going off of the new Bibles they've printed in the last hundred years that preach all this made-up rapture stuff. 0.92

03:42:41.000 I appreciate your call.

03:42:42.000 Quickly on that subject, Mr. Hoffman.

03:42:44.000 Yeah, if Rabbi Rush Limbaugh is behind it, and I'm half-kidding when I call him a rabbi, but he certainly behaves like one. 0.95

03:42:53.000 If Rabbi Rush Limbaugh is behind it, you can be sure that when it comes to the Zionists or the Israelis, that this fellow is not a true Christian convert.

03:43:00.000 And I think you summed it up in a nutshell.

03:43:02.000 They're always trying to use the apocalypse or apocalyptic theories and pipe dreams.

03:43:07.000 In order to identify some enemy of the Zionists as being God's enemy, and also calling the Zionist state Israel, when it's counterfeit Israel, is bankrupt right from the premise.

03:43:20.000 Oh man, it's all going to end in nuclear war.

03:43:22.000 Let's go ahead and dig in, and all the neocons will be happy, I guess, and all the liberals and everybody else, conservatives too.

03:43:27.000 Carl in Oklahoma.

03:43:28.000 We've got to end this soon, folks.

03:43:30.000 I've got to get home.

03:43:31.000 Go ahead, Carl.

03:43:32.000 Hello, Alex and Michael.

03:43:35.000 Please bear with me for a minute.

03:43:37.000 I was born with six fingers on each hand.

03:43:40.000 I'm the second child of my mother Bethel.

03:43:43.000 I am Elijah the Antichrist.

03:43:45.000 I appreciate your call, man.

03:43:46.000 I can't do this.

03:43:47.000 I can't do it.

03:43:48.000 I can't do it anymore.

03:43:50.000 I just can't.

03:43:50.000 I mean, look, it's what they've done to everybody.

03:43:52.000 We start taking the calls, and it's just insane asylum.

03:43:55.000 But I still have you on, folks, because it's what you need, and all of you are great.

03:44:00.000 There's a lot of delusions of grandeur across society, and I'm seeing it get worse.

03:44:04.000 People kind of take on an imaginary mantle.

03:44:06.000 It's like adults playing like they're three-year-olds with imaginary friends, and I just can't handle it.

03:44:11.000 What about you?

03:44:13.000 Yeah, I guess it's like the old joke about the insane asylum where the guy thinks he's Napoleon.

03:44:18.000 Man, I'm seeing a lot of it.

03:44:19.000 It's just insane.

03:44:21.000 I'm sorry.

03:44:21.000 Oh, man.

03:44:22.000 Sorry I lied to you.

03:44:24.000 And now he'll think, they know I am a secret one.

03:44:26.000 Alex is of the Devil Goblin.

03:44:28.000 I will get him or something.

03:44:30.000 I mean, you know, it's just... David in Texas, go ahead.

03:44:34.000 How are you all doing?

03:44:34.000 Great show as usual.

03:44:35.000 I thank you Alex for all your efforts in the Patriot Movement that you've been up to all these years.

03:44:40.000 I appreciate what you're doing.

03:44:41.000 Let me ask that question to Hoffman, but I want his real comment.

03:44:45.000 And believe me, I'll have you back on sometime even if you say I'm the worst creature on Earth.

03:44:49.000 I want your real answer.

03:44:50.000 I take you as a smart, intelligent guy with a lot of discernment.

03:44:54.000 What do you think of Alex Jones?

03:44:55.000 I mean, have I not brought in a million loads of fruit, good fruit, energizing, waking up millions?

03:45:01.000 Are you asking me?

03:45:03.000 Because I agree with you.

03:45:03.000 No, no, I'm asking Mr. Hoffman.

03:45:05.000 I want his take, then I'll go back to you.

03:45:06.000 Well, Alex, to be candid with you, I didn't know much about you until you invited me on the program.

03:45:12.000 I knew you had an important program because there were people who were telling me that he's very good on 9-11 and he's very good on this prison planet idea that what they're putting us through.

03:45:22.000 Mainly, I'd heard that You had said that what they're putting us through at the airports, they intend to expand from those airports out onto the streets.

03:45:28.000 Yeah, they're training us, yeah.

03:45:29.000 Well, I mean, I'm not bragging, but I am kind of the big shot.

03:45:32.000 But obviously not that big.

03:45:33.000 You didn't know I was, but my point is, just analyzing me then as a guy, you know, right off the turnip truck.

03:45:38.000 I'm off the turnip truck.

03:45:38.000 What do you think of that?

03:45:39.000 I just wanted to say that other people came on, maybe some of the flack that you get as well, and they told me, Oh, he's a Zionist poodle.

03:45:46.000 He never covers the Zionist issue, and he'll never have you on.

03:45:50.000 And even after I was on the first show, I got some emails along those lines, and my reply was, well, if he's the Zionist poodle... 0.69

03:45:57.000 Why did he have me on the program and give me an opportunity to speak my mind?

03:46:02.000 Now you've done that for a second time.

03:46:04.000 Yeah, but see, that's how this works, though.

03:46:05.000 I had guests on ten years ago about this.

03:46:07.000 I mean, that's my point, is that it's too important that I be the bad man.

03:46:11.000 I mean, if I see evidence to the contrary to something, I'll admit I was wrong.

03:46:16.000 They won't do that.

03:46:18.000 I'd like to ask my supporters to write letters to GCN Network and thank them for For having the Alex Jones program on the air, and I hope that the people who read my books and listen to my tapes will, uh, listen, uh, patronize your advertisers if it's something that they feel is good or useful for them.

03:46:37.000 And, uh, I don't know, you know, I'd have to sit down and have a glass of beer with you to find out if we're on the same page on everything, but what I admire is the fact, and what I've gotten from you, and I'm sure you haven't tried to deceive me, if this is the real Alex Jones that I've been dealing with over these last two programs,

03:46:53.000 You have a love of the First Amendment, you have a love of freedom of expression, and you have a love of people like me who are... I'm a very marginal person, and I have a small audience, and yet I think that some of the information and research that God has made accessible to me Is extraordinarily important for the survival of our nation.

03:47:12.000 Well, no, exactly.

03:47:13.000 That's why you're here, because I think the way you put it, I know you're genuine.

03:47:16.000 I have discernment.

03:47:18.000 I think a lot of people are blinded.

03:47:19.000 They don't have it.

03:47:20.000 And I've helped so many other people try to get their word out, and then they flip out.

03:47:24.000 And I think they're in it for the wrong reasons.

03:47:26.000 This is life and death.

03:47:27.000 And again, it isn't that I don't...

03:47:29.000 I don't really mind being attacked.

03:47:31.000 What I don't like is I know people are wasting their time because I know they're blind if they're attacking me.

03:47:35.000 I mean, I'm just trying to be friendly and be nice to everybody and at the same time get people thinking.

03:47:41.000 I interrupted your caller.

03:47:43.000 Finish what you're saying.

03:47:44.000 Oh, that's no problem, Alex.

03:47:45.000 Very quickly, the way I see it, first of all, I appreciate what you're doing.

03:47:50.000 I generally agree with what you're doing and I certainly don't.

03:47:52.000 If I had to do a couple of things, I'd take a slightly different opinion on it, but I don't hold anything against you.

03:47:57.000 Well, I change some of my views, not my core views, not my core values, but I change views month to month, year to year.

03:48:03.000 I mean, we all grow, we all change, we all have experiences, we all saw the Israelis run that armored vehicle over that woman and laugh about it, American citizen.

03:48:13.000 You know, we all saw Bush say if I was a dictator, it would be a heck of a lot easier.

03:48:17.000 You know, there's a process here.

03:48:19.000 And that's why we have to, we have plenty of evil people we know are bad.

03:48:22.000 But we need to, again, be a little more genteel about everything, myself included.

03:48:28.000 But any comments or questions, sir?

03:48:30.000 I really got to go.

03:48:31.000 Oh, very quickly.

03:48:32.000 I would say the movement, everyone needs to get together.

03:48:34.000 It's the movement, it's about the country, our future, stopping world government conspiracy.

03:48:39.000 But everybody get together though, it means everybody has to agree.

03:48:41.000 It's not about a single person, it's not about egos getting out of hand.

03:48:44.000 People need to be more humble and Christian anyways, and it's about God, not about any one of us individually.

03:48:49.000 And I appreciate what you do, Alex, and I wouldn't be the kind of person I'd be.

03:48:54.000 I don't want people to eclipse me.

03:49:00.000 I appreciate your call.

03:49:02.000 I have people that I try to trust do the show and fill in and build them up and then they do the most horrible stuff you can imagine years ago.

03:49:09.000 I mean, you know, that's what I mean.

03:49:10.000 I don't want to be the main attack frigate going in at point blank range against the New World Order.

03:49:15.000 I don't like to, you know, give them every tool to come back and attack me.

03:49:19.000 Well, if they're turning on you, then I'd have to say, where is the Christianity?

03:49:22.000 Because Jesus said to love your enemies, to bless them that curse you.

03:49:26.000 Oh, a lot of these people openly in the movement don't even profess to be Christian.

03:49:32.000 Well, that's unfortunate then, because I think the Christians have to take the leadership, but they have to be authentic Christians and not Christians in name only. 0.99

03:49:39.000 And I certainly want to testify that I I love the Talmudists, and I ask God to reform them. 1.00

03:49:46.000 I certainly don't hate them.

03:49:48.000 I hate the sins that are committed, and I hate the crimes that are committed.

03:49:52.000 And as I said earlier, the Apostle Paul said, the ruler bears not the sword in vain.

03:49:57.000 For example, I'm in favor of capital punishment, as the old-time Christians were. 1.00

03:50:00.000 Well, I mean, that's a larger issue.

03:50:02.000 I don't hate people in Israel.

03:50:03.000 I don't want them to die. 0.99

03:50:05.000 I know most of the people there are ignorant, don't even know what they're a part of, just like Americans aren't. 0.99

03:50:09.000 It's evil groups at the top, and so, just like if I'm attacking Italian mafia, I'm not against Italians. 0.98

03:50:09.000 That's my point. 0.98

03:50:16.000 Right, but at the same time, the individual Israeli has got to be aware that they benefit from the colonialism and the oppression of the Arabs, and if you use the Allied World War II formula, That allowed the terrible Holocaust against the German people, the German civilians in all the major cities, and that's justified to this day by all number of ideologues on the right and the left. 0.74

03:50:36.000 But you also have justification by the colonialism that happened here in the U.S.

03:50:41.000 and we talked about that two hours ago.

03:50:43.000 Yeah.

03:50:43.000 No, I'm not for collective guilt, but they apply it to the Germans and then they exculpate the Israelis.

03:50:49.000 Oh, I understand.

03:50:50.000 That's why we're here discussing this.

03:50:52.000 Uh, let's, uh, you know what?

03:50:54.000 I just can't take anymore.

03:50:55.000 We got to end this.

03:50:55.000 Who's been holding the longest here?

03:50:59.000 Ron in Ohio.

03:51:00.000 I'm going to have to cut it off there.

03:51:01.000 Go ahead.

03:51:03.000 Hey, um, how you both doing?

03:51:05.000 I appreciate listening to both of you.

03:51:07.000 I've been following Mr, um, Uh, Hoffman's website for quite a while and reading up on it.

03:51:14.000 I am a, uh, a, uh, a Christian, but I am what would be concerned a preterist.

03:51:21.000 Which is demonized by most institutional sectarian churches.

03:51:26.000 Well, I mean, if God's kingdoms come to earth and everybody's happy and there's no more evil in the world or the devil's gone, I mean, in the Christian paradigm, that just is crazy. 0.97

03:51:40.000 I mean, I'm not mad at you, I'm not saying you're a bad person, I'm not saying you're going to hell, I don't get into these judging games, but the preterist thing has got to be even more ridiculous than the rapture crowd. 0.89

03:51:50.000 It depends on who's preterist. 0.90

03:51:52.000 Look, I've heard, I've studied the preterist stuff.

03:51:55.000 I study all this stuff voraciously.

03:51:57.000 Well, let's get Hoffman's comment on that.

03:51:59.000 Well, I'm just concerned, basically, about this eschatology that suggests that all prophecy or majority of prophecy is unfulfilled.

03:52:07.000 It happened in 70 A.D.

03:52:08.000 by Titus.

03:52:10.000 Well, I believe a great deal of prophecy was fulfilled in 70 A.D., but I believe there are also unfulfilled prophecies, but I think that it becomes a dead end for us if Christians who have good will, there's so few of us in this movement who are united on the big issues, And then we start tearing each other apart because one man is a praetorist and another man is something else. 0.72

03:52:32.000 I mean, I'm not really privy to this theological minutiae here.

03:52:35.000 I read the Bible and I don't really do this theological hair-splitting, which I think is almost a curse on Protestantism, with the factionalism and the subsects.

03:52:47.000 And the disunity, it's certainly fine if somebody has a theory about prophecy, but I hope that it will not become something that interferes with salvation.

03:52:58.000 I hear you, and I appreciate your call.

03:53:00.000 I hear you, and I appreciate your call, Ron.

03:53:02.000 I mean, that's my thing.

03:53:03.000 You know, I had family, the Ayers family and others, you know, that raised Colonel Travis's son, you know, it's in the movie The Alamo, him dropping his kids off.

03:53:13.000 That's my mom's side of the family. 0.52

03:53:14.000 I mean, my whole family, you know, involved in the Revolutionary War for this state.

03:53:19.000 And on both sides.

03:53:21.000 And Ayers came here. 0.98

03:53:23.000 He was a Protestant activist in New York.

03:53:27.000 He sold the land that the U.N.

03:53:29.000 is on today.

03:53:29.000 He was wealthy.

03:53:30.000 Bought an entire ship full of Bibles, which was expensive.

03:53:33.000 Most of his money.

03:53:34.000 And he came into Texas. 0.96

03:53:36.000 The Catholics were going to kill him in Galveston. 1.00

03:53:40.000 And you know, the priest came after him.

03:53:42.000 This is when Mexico ran it.

03:53:43.000 Because he'd heard Protestants were being persecuted, he had to convert to Catholicism, at least on paper.

03:53:47.000 In fact, on my dad's side, we have Mexican land grants that even say that.

03:53:51.000 But, you know, nobody really followed it.

03:53:53.000 You know, to get the grant, you just sign your name.

03:53:56.000 And then they come to Nacogdoches, and then of course we're involved in the Revolutionary War here, starting all that.

03:54:03.000 And I'm not Catholic, but I don't hate Catholics, individually.

03:54:06.000 I mean, I think it's New World Order, obviously the Pope calls for it.

03:54:09.000 But I don't want to get in a fight over that, so I say, yeah, the Pope's New World Order.

03:54:12.000 Yeah, that's not what I'm into.

03:54:13.000 Yeah, you know, my family, you can go check it.

03:54:17.000 You know, the Hammonds, the Joneses, all of them Protestant. 0.66

03:54:19.000 I mean, Texas is Protestant.

03:54:21.000 And then they just say I'm a Vatican assassin, but the guy saying it says the Earth is on a string, floating, and the universe orbits it, and that flying saucers that Germans have have magnetic beams on Rosicrucian lines that zap people.

03:54:36.000 And they're like, you will interview this great genius! 1.00

03:54:39.000 And the person's a complete quack nut idiot! 1.00

03:54:42.000 You know, and I will not be part of it! 1.00

03:54:44.000 And I'm tired of these dumb inquisitors saying I'm a Catholic New World Order operative, which I have frankly found is a bunch of propaganda out of the Israel First crowd, and these idiots don't even know they're being handled by it! 0.98

03:54:58.000 I think that so many people, Alex, who call themselves Christians or not, I mean, just the spirit you're describing of ill will and resentment, I mean, the true Christian has a gentle spirit, A spirit of reconciliation. 0.99

03:55:10.000 A lot of people on the left who would call themselves atheists or who we might deride as liberals.

03:55:16.000 I have seen kindness and gentleness.

03:55:18.000 I was telling you about the reception that Finkelstein got at MIT.

03:55:22.000 Everyone was courteous, but he was challenged in the questions, and it was just a wonderful exchange.

03:55:27.000 No, I agree.

03:55:29.000 Some of the liberals really are nice people.

03:55:30.000 I mean, they've been manipulated and conned, but no, I agree.

03:55:33.000 And their movement, you know, people get into the left because they hear that it's for love and brotherhood and helping people.

03:55:40.000 A lot of people get into the right because they hear it's a way of preserving their coin collection and going to war.

03:55:45.000 You know, we have to be careful because the right wing and the left wing are two wings of a predatory, kabbalistic bird.

03:55:51.000 In Kabbalism, you have the pillar of mercy and the pillar of severity representing the right and the left, and it's a means of... Well, that's why they say it was Masonic with the two towers. 0.63

03:56:02.000 In closing, all the numbers, the numerology, the 9-1-1, the number you get when you call the government, 9-1-1 in the occult, all of it.

03:56:12.000 Yeah, we did a special issue of our Revisionist History newsletter on the occult aspects of 9-11.

03:56:18.000 In fact, Tex Mars borrowed the image that we used there from the tarot card, and you've probably seen it in Texas literature, we were the first to use it.

03:56:28.000 And that was of the flaming tower, with the people jumping off the tower, an exact recreation of an alchemical archetype.

03:56:36.000 And I wouldn't be able to do justice to our research on that, but if folks go to our website, we have the online store with the revisionist issues there.

03:56:45.000 So that murder was a massive ritual.

03:56:49.000 I mean, it was done like that, and they do a lot of other killings like that.

03:56:53.000 The year 2001 was predicted.

03:56:56.000 Again, we're going back to Arthur C. Clarke, and it's kind of interesting how you and I have focused on that, because I mentioned it in passing, and you actually brought me back to it.

03:57:05.000 Yeah, dawn of a new age!

03:57:07.000 It's the start of evolution.

03:57:09.000 Everything changes after 2001.

03:57:11.000 Our lives will never be the same.

03:57:13.000 Yeah, you may recall that on New Year's Day of 2001, the obelisk from the movie 2001, Space Odyssey, appeared in Seattle, and no one knew where it came from, and then it just mysteriously disappeared.

03:57:30.000 Whether it was accidental, coincidental, synchronistic, it was certainly, from the point of view of symbolism, a very timely event to have that at the dawn of 2001, the 21 era, which both John Dee and Arthur C. Clocke forecast that 2001 was going to be a gateway into a completely different era.

03:57:48.000 But as you mentioned earlier, Alex, and it's important to emphasize it, These people are not all powerful.

03:57:54.000 They're very confident.

03:57:55.000 They've been virtuoso in the execution of their conspiracy, because we ourselves have been weak.

03:58:01.000 We have been faithless.

03:58:02.000 We haven't done what God has wanted us to do.

03:58:05.000 But if we ever do have the grace and fulfill the will and reason that God put us on this planet, then they can be defeated.

03:58:13.000 It may not be a total defeat.

03:58:15.000 But it can be a way of making this world a better place for our children, and that's what we need to do.

03:58:20.000 And we've seen their fallibility in Vietnam, and we're seeing it in Iraq as well, where they stumbled in there and didn't even have a plan for the occupation.

03:58:29.000 Feith and the other neocons were treating the Iraqis The members of the Ba'ath Party as if they were members of the Nazi Party.

03:58:37.000 They were practically recreating the occupation orders that were created in 1945.

03:58:43.000 Completely irrelevant to the situation in Iraq. 0.98

03:58:46.000 You've got a lot of dumb people at the top and you also have some brilliant wizard types. 0.93

03:58:51.000 But certainly God can conquer all of these if we will only allow him to use us as he wants us to be used. 0.98

03:58:59.000 And I mean, not fight the New World Order because we hate them.

03:59:02.000 Fight them because they're evil and they have to be defeated, and we have to protect the good people.

03:59:07.000 And their minions, don't hate them because the globalists use our hatred of them to scare them under the dark bosom, under the black wings of the New World Order.

03:59:18.000 Well, Michael Hoffman, thank you for spending time with us, and it's been an interesting discussion.

03:59:21.000 I hope it stirs people to think.

03:59:25.000 And to reflect on the different things that you've talked about, I know after five hours and ten minutes I am exhausted, so I'm out of here until this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

03:59:34.000 Central Standard Time, and we'll have you back up in the near future, and I appreciate your time and research.

03:59:40.000 revisionisthistory.org.

03:59:42.000 Thank you, Alex.

03:59:43.000 Thank you.

03:59:44.000 All right, folks, I am out of time.

03:59:46.000 We'll hit the outro music.

03:59:48.000 I've got a headache.

03:59:50.000 I can't do more than four hours.

03:59:51.000 I mean, it's just I had fun, though.

03:59:53.000 Great guests.

03:59:54.000 They got me in almost for three hours.

03:59:56.000 And everybody out there, start waking somebody up.

03:59:59.000 Start warning somebody.

04:00:00.000 Stop taking their vaccines.

04:00:02.000 It's like he said, boycotting them not unloading the ships.

04:00:07.000 Don't take their vaccines.

04:00:08.000 Don't drink their fluoride water.

04:00:09.000 Take control.

04:00:10.000 Stop using their cell phones that fry your brain.

04:00:13.000 Stop living by cell phone towers.

04:00:14.000 Take your kids out of public school.

04:00:16.000 Start bad-mouthing the New World Order.

04:00:18.000 Educate people.

04:00:19.000 Stand up to them.

04:00:20.000 And support those that tell the truth.

04:00:22.000 Go get our books and videos.

04:00:23.000 Get them out to people.

04:00:24.000 InfoWars.com.

04:00:26.000 God bless you all.

04:00:29.000 Retransmission starts right now at InfoWars.com.

04:00:31.000 Go to the stream.

04:00:32.000 Had an incredible show today.

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