Alex Jones Show - 20080512_Mon_Alex

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00:00:06.000 We are now into the fourth hour.

00:00:17.000 G. Edward Griffin is our guest.

00:00:18.000 Coming up, we'll be taking your phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:00:24.000 We'll even skip some of the breaks for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

00:00:28.000 We'll continue on with G. Edward Griffin during a few of the breaks.

00:00:31.000 Or people listening on the InfoWars.com stream should go over there and be able to hear the behind-the-scenes stuff.

00:00:38.000 G. Edward Griffin, we're going to give out his website, Freedom Force International, how to get involved, great guy.

00:00:42.000 Been around for, well, since 1959, fighting the new world order, best-selling author.

00:00:49.000 I mean, without getting too sidetracked into this, but I think it's important to have discussions about this sometime.

00:00:54.000 It'll be the same guy who comes out with fake Amaro coins, who later comes out as a known FBI operative, hooked in with Sean Hannity.

00:01:03.000 And then he'll come out and say there was a secret session of Congress.

00:01:06.000 Or other groups will put out, oh, Nassera, the government's secretly good and everything's fine.

00:01:11.000 Or Leo Wanta got trillions of dollars and he's good, but only trust him, everyone else secretly works for the Pope. 0.98

00:01:17.000 And you can always tell these government things, they're designed for the lowest common denominator and to get any idiot camp followers to kind of go along with it. 0.78

00:01:27.000 Instead of saying, we can work together, we're positive, you know, the average person's good, it's evil at the top, we can affect change, we need to stop the collectivist. 0.74

00:01:37.000 You notice that these groups that are government operatives, they never are issue specific, they never get into how things work or about what the government's doing.

00:01:45.000 Or what the corporations are doing.

00:01:46.000 It's always about what other patriots are doing. 0.93

00:01:49.000 And that's why I've been trying to wake up people to stop being part of this bellicose mental illness.

00:01:55.000 Do you see what I'm saying, Jim McGriffin?

00:01:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:01:58.000 And I'm very grateful that there is a voice such as yours, Alex, that is such a strong voice and heard by so many people that's preaching common sense on this.

00:02:07.000 Because, you know, this has been going on for a long time.

00:02:09.000 You mentioned I've been in this battle more or less since about 1959.

00:02:13.000 And this was going on even then, believe it or not.

00:02:16.000 But unfortunately, back in those days, there was no real strong voice against it that reached very many people, and people fell for it.

00:02:26.000 All the patriots fell for it, which is, I think, one of the reasons that nothing really developed over the years in the way of a strong counterforce against this.

00:02:34.000 So, they were divided against each other, they fell for all of these ploys, and so we see the result of it today, but thank God you're out there telling the truth today, and we're trying to do the same thing with Freedom Force International, so maybe this time around we'll have a little better shot at it.

00:02:51.000 This is really a war for the brain, is it not?

00:02:54.000 It is.

00:02:56.000 Yeah, always behind that veiled fist, or that velvet fist, Or the glove, I should say.

00:03:04.000 Behind the glove is the fist.

00:03:05.000 I'll finally get it out right here.

00:03:07.000 But yeah, there's always the threat of physical force and coercion.

00:03:11.000 But really, the greatest strides that our opponents have made in capturing the American people and in other countries, as well as by capturing their brains.

00:03:21.000 They capture their minds, their information flow.

00:03:24.000 They engineer their opinions.

00:03:27.000 And this is how they control people today.

00:03:29.000 And so we have to be alert to that and have strong leaders that can help us to, you know, weed through these rough paths and find out which are the stepping stones that are safe and which ones are dangerous.

00:03:44.000 And that's the battle we have today.

00:03:47.000 Now the establishment is trying to focus, though, in on organized groups and websites and authors and attacking networks and things like that.

00:03:57.000 But overall, the loss of confidence in the state and in the organized system, the top-down hierarchical structure, is so massive and people are becoming more and more distrustful that I'm

00:04:10.000 I'm intellectually pretty sure that the elite is in for some very rough times themselves, and of course they've foreseen that and tried to build up an oppressive grid to counter that, and they've written about how they foresaw it, but I think the wave of resistance is so big that they've got a crisis of conscience themselves, and even their own minions are saying, do I want to be part of this?

00:04:31.000 Yeah, I think you're quite right, but they're committed.

00:04:34.000 I don't think the guys at the top are going to have any option of turning around.

00:04:38.000 They're committed.

00:04:39.000 So they're not going to back down, and I think the only hope we have is to beat them at their own game, to overpower them.

00:04:47.000 We do have numbers.

00:04:48.000 We do have truth on our side.

00:04:49.000 They're truly on the dark side.

00:04:52.000 They are on the dark side.

00:04:54.000 Like Shane, he said in that interview, he says, we're working on the dark side.

00:04:56.000 Stay there.

00:04:57.000 I'm going to talk to you during the break for the InfoWars.com stream listeners.

00:05:01.000 Then we'll come back for everybody else on the other side.

00:05:05.000 It is a big idea.

00:05:07.000 A new world order.

00:05:07.000 G. Edward.

00:05:09.000 In the near future.

00:05:10.000 John, go ahead and bring me up to G. Edward.

00:05:12.000 Okay, one second here.

00:05:14.000 Go ahead.

00:05:15.000 Gee, Eber, we won't do too many of these behind-the-scenes breaks today.

00:05:18.000 I'm sorry I got you on late.

00:05:20.000 I got behind, but I do want to take some time out for solutions.

00:05:23.000 Do you think it's a good idea to talk some about the state's election and maybe all these phony green taxes and this whole green hype, you know, repackaging socialism?

00:05:33.000 Yeah, I'd be glad to add my two cents to it.

00:05:36.000 You've covered it so well, but yeah, I don't think it can be overstated.

00:05:40.000 What else?

00:05:40.000 What are other little tidbits you want to cover?

00:05:43.000 Oh, I don't know about tidbits.

00:05:45.000 Those are the main topics.

00:05:47.000 Aren't they?

00:05:49.000 I think the phony elections.

00:05:51.000 How could you overstate that?

00:05:53.000 You could talk about that all day long.

00:05:55.000 It is amazing.

00:05:57.000 And then take some time out to take some calls.

00:06:00.000 If we were to go ten minutes over because we got you on late, would that be okay with you?

00:06:06.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:06:06.000 Sure.

00:06:07.000 Okay.

00:06:07.000 You know what then?

00:06:08.000 How about twenty minutes into overdrive?

00:06:10.000 That's fine with me.

00:06:11.000 Okay, well then you'll be gone in an hour and fifteen minutes, sir.

00:06:16.000 We will be back live in just a moment.

00:06:21.000 We might as well just go ahead and fill this time up for the listeners on InfoWars.com and also the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers right now.

00:06:30.000 We're going to restate this on the main program, but go ahead and fire out some of your websites and books.

00:06:35.000 Okay, well, the books.

00:06:37.000 We'll start with those.

00:06:38.000 I think the one that is of most interest to most of your listeners is the one on the Federal Reserve System.

00:06:44.000 It's The Creature from Jekyll Island, the second look at the Federal Reserve.

00:06:48.000 And the other one that is of great interest to a lot of your listeners, I think, is the one on cancer.

00:06:54.000 It's called World Without Cancer, the Story of Vitamin B-17.

00:06:59.000 And it's about an alternative control for cancer, a non-toxic control for cancer.

00:07:05.000 called laetrile.

00:07:06.000 In its natural form, it's called amygdalin, but it doesn't make any difference what it's called.

00:07:11.000 It's something that's found in nature.

00:07:12.000 It's in edible plants.

00:07:14.000 And the people who have a diet that's pretty rich in this substance have a very extremely low incidence of cancer.

00:07:21.000 So that would be a book that many people should be interested in.

00:07:26.000 We've got a lot of videos and audio programs, just as you do.

00:07:31.000 And all of this is found on our commercial site, which is called the Reality Zone.

00:07:37.000 That's at www.realityzone.com.

00:07:41.000 So that's the money-grubbing site.

00:07:44.000 Hey, you've got to raise money, buddy.

00:07:46.000 Believe me, I understand and know how it is.

00:07:48.000 People say, it's not enough to give your films free away on the internet.

00:07:52.000 You should broadcast from a ditch with a tin can.

00:07:55.000 And I've got news for them.

00:07:57.000 To fight the New World Order, we can't tax people and make them give us their money like the globalists do.

00:08:02.000 We have to ask people to support us, and they should.

00:08:04.000 Okay, we're going back to the main transmission.

00:08:06.000 Here we go.

00:08:08.000 The Alex Jones Show.

00:08:10.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:08:15.000 G. Edward Griffin is our guest.

00:08:16.000 At the bottom of the hour, I promise, we're going directly to your calls.

00:08:18.000 He'll be with us at least 20 minutes into overdrive today.

00:08:21.000 We'll be going to 3.20 Central Standard Time today.

00:08:28.000 Jebber Griffin, we were talking about the ways that globalists distract us, divert us, they try to destroy our unity.

00:08:34.000 And I don't mean our unity as one organization.

00:08:37.000 I don't want one group fighting the New World Order.

00:08:39.000 I want lots of attack frigates out there going after them. 0.97

00:08:43.000 But I mean, unity of purpose, our manifesto, what we believe in, you know, the liberty, you know, ideas like that.

00:08:50.000 But then shifting gears back into, for the mainline people that are still tuned into the false paradigm, they keep saying Barack Obama Is about making us believe in each other again, bringing us back together.

00:09:02.000 What they mean is, not bringing us back together, but bringing us back into being conned by the state, conned by the left-right paradigm, conned by the two parties one more time.

00:09:13.000 Taking us for one more ride while they finish getting their police state control grid in.

00:09:17.000 And let me be clear, I'm not even entertaining a debate here.

00:09:21.000 I'm not bashing Barack Obama here. 0.88

00:09:23.000 The guy's a total puppet, runs nothing, nice, handsome, friendly, smart guy, but he's a globalist.

00:09:30.000 I dislike him less than Hillary because she's been around a while. 0.99

00:09:34.000 She's the devil I know, and I know she is a devil, but it doesn't matter. 0.83

00:09:39.000 So me saying Barack Obama is a fake, Because I'm not saying Hillary's good. 0.96

00:09:44.000 I'm not saying McCain's good.

00:09:46.000 They're all bad.

00:09:48.000 And so occasionally they give you a new puppet to make you think that things have changed.

00:09:54.000 I'm not trying to take hope away here.

00:09:56.000 I want you to know there's hope in real resistance, in a real awakening, in local government, in you taking action, in you running for office, in you educating others, instead of wasting all our energies like all these young people are doing, Starry-eyed, just, I just love Hillary, I love McCain, I love Obama! 0.61

00:10:15.000 You know, you see all these intelligent, great-looking college girls just out there dedicating themselves to Hillary or Barack Obama, or all these well-meaning business people for McCain, when they're all America-killers, they're all globalists.

00:10:29.000 G. Edward Griffin.

00:10:31.000 Well, what can you say?

00:10:33.000 That's true, and the reason they're that way is because their opinions have been engineered by the media.

00:10:39.000 And to a large extent by the educational system that some of those younger people are still in.

00:10:44.000 When you look at the campaign rhetoric of these major candidates, they can talk for hours and not really say anything, but they are masters at using words that sound good.

00:10:55.000 Like, well, Obama's famous word, change.

00:10:58.000 We want change.

00:10:59.000 Yes, change, change, change.

00:11:01.000 But if you asked any of them, what would you change?

00:11:04.000 There'd probably be dead silence because they don't know.

00:11:07.000 They'd say, well, we'll change the name.

00:11:08.000 We'll change the name from Bush to Obama or something.

00:11:13.000 But they have no idea of political principles.

00:11:17.000 They have never even thought about the proper role of government or what The Constitution says about what these candidates are allowed or specifically not allowed to do.

00:11:28.000 They haven't a single thought in their entire brains about political concepts, but yet they're out there carrying these banners and chanting, as you said, and they're all starry-eyed over some kind of a word game, just change or compassion or Patriotism, or who knows what these words mean in the inner recesses of their minds, but they certainly don't mean anything in the realm of political principle.

00:11:58.000 And until the American people start thinking about political principles once again, there is no hope.

00:12:03.000 So, you're quite right when you say, why should we even entertain a debate or try to choose up sides between all three of these word masters?

00:12:12.000 And it's not just them, it's the organizations that support them, when the real issues are never allowed to be even discussed in such a debate.

00:12:20.000 And so, yes, our job has to be not to get entrapped by this so-called two-party system, when in reality it's not a two-party system.

00:12:31.000 Well, it's a carnival distraction.

00:12:33.000 It's like having a traveling carnival, a troupe of trained monkeys dance in front of you while somebody sneaks up on you to stab you in the back. 0.70

00:12:42.000 It's distraction.

00:12:44.000 It's the same thing that the magician does, where he has his beautiful assistant bend over in front of the crowd while he stages the hat trick.

00:12:56.000 It works every time, doesn't it?

00:12:59.000 Yeah, well, that was the theme of my presentation when I was there in Austin a few weeks ago, as you remember.

00:13:05.000 We called it the Quigley Formula, and it was named after Professor Carol Quigley, who wrote the book Tragedy and Hope, who was sort of an unofficial or maybe an official historian for a secret society founded by Cecil Rhodes, and we got into all of that history.

00:13:22.000 And the reason that history is interesting, and the reason it's important, is because without an understanding Of how the two-party systems came into being.

00:13:31.000 If you don't know the history, if you don't know the fact that there is an organization that has a strategy for doing exactly what we're complaining about here, people would say, well, I guess it just happened.

00:13:43.000 Well, no, it didn't just happen.

00:13:45.000 This came about as a result of a very well-thought-out plan.

00:13:48.000 It's being implemented today by people who have names, who belong to an organization that has a name, has a headquarters in New York, and all of that.

00:13:56.000 And so once you tell people about the facts behind what's happening and the names and the places and the dates, then all of a sudden it becomes real.

00:14:06.000 Other than that, before they have all that information, they'll just look at you and say, what are you talking about?

00:14:11.000 You know, I don't think that's true.

00:14:14.000 And so what we're facing now is the fact that the people of America are starving for information and factual data.

00:14:26.000 Oh, I agree with you.

00:14:28.000 I agree with you.

00:14:29.000 They are starving and so they give them real simple pap like change, change knowing that stacked up against the two establishment candidates that another establishment candidate can be slipped in on them. 0.95

00:14:42.000 Talk a little bit about the Quigley formula because there are hundreds of published PhD level elite text used by globalist managers, and I know I've read scores of them, and they talk about how we're dumb animals, and they talk about how we'll never read how they're calling us dumb animals. 0.89

00:15:00.000 And, I mean, is it frustrating to you?

00:15:02.000 Because that's one of the things that drives me crazy, that some good old boy at the gym will waddle over and make fun of me saying I believe in imaginary groups when the heads of political science divisions of top universities write books about how they engineer the shadow government system and how we run nothing.

00:15:23.000 It's very frustrating to know that we've spent the time to read all these books and watch these people on C-SPAN and then the public I mean, I hate the globalists, but at the same time, the public has been engineered to laugh at us for trying to save them.

00:15:39.000 I mean, it's disgusting.

00:15:41.000 Well, yeah, and you have to not blame the public to a certain extent, because they're just the products of programming, very effective programming, although I still think that if anybody had any kind of an instinct for truth, They would somehow break through that.

00:15:59.000 I guess we did somehow.

00:16:00.000 I don't know whether that was to our benefit or simply because of an accident that happened along the way.

00:16:06.000 But in any event, yeah, it is frustrating.

00:16:08.000 But the bottom line is that this is not imaginary.

00:16:11.000 And anybody who has any intellectual curiosity or honesty about them would say, okay, where are your facts?

00:16:19.000 And then that's where we come in.

00:16:20.000 Here are the facts.

00:16:22.000 And I found that generally if you have the ability to present the facts without being interrupted, you know, give me 20 or 30 minutes.

00:16:30.000 And if people are interested enough to sit and listen to a presentation for 20 or 30 minutes, I'll convince them.

00:16:37.000 Not that I convince them, but the facts will convince them because they're irrefutable.

00:16:41.000 So, that's our job, is to find those people, and that won't be many, probably 3% or less, who have the intellectual curiosity and the intellectual honesty to ask the question, where are your facts?

00:16:54.000 And that's all we need, Alex, and you know that.

00:16:56.000 We don't need that 51, that magic 51% of the population. 1.00

00:17:01.000 The majority never determined anything.

00:17:03.000 They're always led by the few, 3% or less, who can generate a majority by the strength of their leadership.

00:17:11.000 And that's what we must do.

00:17:12.000 That's what our enemies have done.

00:17:14.000 And as you know, that's what Freedom Force is all about, is to move into the power centers of society, those groups and organizations that people belong to, that lead the political thinking of the nation.

00:17:27.000 We have to become influential in those groups now, just the way our opponents have in the past.

00:17:32.000 Well, now again, I'm trying to be subtle here, not that I'm delicate, or not that I'm even well-spoken.

00:17:37.000 Maybe I haven't explained it right to some people.

00:17:40.000 I'm not against the militia.

00:17:41.000 I believe in the militia.

00:17:42.000 I'm a member of the militia, 18 to 44.

00:17:44.000 We're all part of it.

00:17:47.000 And it's in our Constitution, and the feds say we have no right to own guns.

00:17:51.000 It's only an organized militia, but that didn't exist until 1907.

00:17:55.000 So, we know it's our right to keep and bear arms, it's to defend against criminals and the government, and I've read the Federalist Papers and others on air, but then you've got what the modern militia movement is, and that's Feds setting up innocent good people

00:18:11.000 And usually the militia leaders are feds, and it's a thing of paranoia, don't trust your neighbors, meet us behind the barn, and then the feds says let's build a bomb so they can send a bunch of innocent farmers to jail, and then asset forfeiture their farms, and then I get on air and I say watch out, we're up front, we're in suits and ties, we're well spoken, we're the good guys.

00:18:32.000 But the Feds, when they run these operations, they've tried to always steer our movement into hiding, like it's secret agent stuff, and it's all, oh my God, everyone's watching you and wanting to get you.

00:18:42.000 And I'm saying, no, no, no, this isn't a thing of paranoia.

00:18:45.000 We are the good guys.

00:18:46.000 We're out in the town square with the white hat at high noon saying, bring it on.

00:18:51.000 Do you see the point I'm making?

00:18:53.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:18:54.000 I couldn't agree with you more.

00:18:55.000 And, yeah, it has always worried me deeply as to the character that the militia movements have taken.

00:19:04.000 They're going in the wrong direction.

00:19:07.000 And I think the reason, as you've just stated, is because they are under the influence of Asia provocateurs who are sent in there to do that, just to mess it up so it won't possibly work. 0.62

00:19:17.000 Oh, we've caught them hundreds of times in every case.

00:19:21.000 It turns out that's what they do.

00:19:24.000 So, they're smart.

00:19:26.000 So, okay, they're smart.

00:19:27.000 Now, what are we going to do about it?

00:19:28.000 Let's be just as smart.

00:19:30.000 Let's not let them win that game.

00:19:33.000 Let's be aware of it and move around it. 0.93

00:19:36.000 Well, I remember when I was just a mainline conservative, but fighting for property rights locally, I'd have a guy show up at an event and say, I want to work with you, let's kill cops.

00:19:46.000 And I'd follow him outside, and a guy getting an unmarked cop car. 0.98

00:19:50.000 You know, I mean, it's just, these people are criminals. 0.99

00:19:53.000 Dirtbag slime. 0.98

00:19:55.000 And, uh, well, Texas Monthly caught the FBI creating a Klan group trying to get them to blow up a chemical plant. 0.99

00:20:00.000 They were so dumb, the FBI couldn't get them to do it. 0.97

00:20:05.000 It is a big idea. 1.00

00:20:07.000 A new world order.

00:20:09.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated.

00:20:11.000 You can't stop us now!

00:20:12.000 Use by flying one of these great flags today.

00:20:15.000 Standard flags are three by five feet with miniature flags also available.

00:20:19.000 U.S. Civil...

00:20:20.000 Fly, you can't stop us now.

00:20:22.000 No matter how hard you fly, you can't stop us now.

00:20:30.000 We're the Renegades in this atomic age.

00:20:36.000 It's atomic age of Renegades.

00:20:40.000 Renegades in this atomic age.

00:20:44.000 It's atomic age of Renegades.

00:20:48.000 Since the free historic ages and the days of ancient Greece walked down through the Middle Ages.

00:20:55.000 Planet Earth kept going through changes.

00:20:57.000 And then the Renaissance came.

00:20:59.000 The times continue to change.

00:21:01.000 Nothing stayed the same, but there were always Renegades.

00:21:05.000 And I'll tell you why. 0.98

00:21:08.000 It's because the globalists claim that their breeding makes them god men when they're really a bunch of inbred, mentally retarded individuals at the top. 1.00

00:21:18.000 With these criminal bureaucracies that serve them, that's where their genius still lies. 0.84

00:21:23.000 The truth is, from the common people also comes intelligence, and we don't want to be your slaves.

00:21:29.000 We're not lesser men, and we're not going to go along with you.

00:21:31.000 G. Edward Griffin will talk through the next segment, the next break, for Infowars.com internet stream listeners, but right now, You want to get into Carol Quigley and the Quigley Method because I didn't want to kind of give away your thunder when you were on before you gave your UT speech, but maybe now you should spend some time on that and then we'll start taking phone calls in about 10 minutes.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, I'd like to do that, Alex, but may I finish where my brain was going with our last?

00:21:57.000 Certainly.

00:21:58.000 We were talking about false leadership.

00:22:01.000 And how effective that can be, especially if the victim is not even aware of the possibility that this tactic is being used.

00:22:10.000 Every once in a while, after I've written something or said something about this, I'll get an email from some person that says, how do we know that you are not a false leader?

00:22:20.000 And of course, that's a darn good question.

00:22:22.000 I'm very happy to hear that, because now I know that people are beginning to look around and question.

00:22:27.000 And the answer to that is very simple.

00:22:30.000 You can tell whether a person is a false leader or not simply by looking at their record, where they've been, how long they've been doing it, and what they've actually done.

00:22:38.000 Their fruits!

00:22:39.000 Their fruits shall reveal them, yeah.

00:22:42.000 So you see, if they have a record of dividing people, whether they have a record of diverting attention away from the real culprit, which is the government, not government, but people in government, I always want to emphasize that.

00:22:55.000 We're not opposed to government.

00:22:57.000 We're opposed to corruption in government.

00:23:00.000 And if you can see that leaders have been focused on the corruption in government and consistently have tried to unite people, they're probably on the right track.

00:23:09.000 But if they've always left behind them a debris of broken organizations and anger and division, you've got a pretty good idea that you're dealing with a false leader.

00:23:21.000 So what we're trying to do is build a dependable leadership core that people can rely on, especially people coming into the movement early.

00:23:31.000 I mean, just recently, I should say, people who haven't had a chance to spend years and years studying this thing.

00:23:37.000 They need someone they can rely on, someone with that record.

00:23:40.000 And we're hoping that people will consider Freedom Force International to be that.

00:23:45.000 So if you're trying to figure out who you can rely on, come to Freedom Force International.

00:23:52.000 Check us out and ask that question.

00:23:54.000 Well, I'll say, G. Edward Griffin, the enemy doesn't operate for 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 plus years since 1959, as you have been doing.

00:24:06.000 That's almost 50 years.

00:24:08.000 No, they reveal themselves quickly, especially in our own movement.

00:24:11.000 They usually work about a year.

00:24:13.000 In fact, it's usually exactly 12 months.

00:24:15.000 It's phase 1.

00:24:16.000 They try to build an audience on radio, internet, TV, and then suddenly they attack everyone and say you can't trust anyone.

00:24:23.000 It's nothing but division.

00:24:25.000 I will tell people that most of the groups and organizations out there are actually good.

00:24:30.000 The folks out on the ground are good.

00:24:36.000 But you can really tell the organizations and people that are bad.

00:24:42.000 I mean, G. Everett Griffin, we know you're good.

00:24:45.000 We know so many others are good as well.

00:24:49.000 And a lot of it is also discernment.

00:24:51.000 You know, having your head in the game a long time.

00:24:54.000 You know, not just being aware of disinfo, being aware of also the fact that we can also get too into this where we're too focused and paranoid and then never just move forward.

00:25:05.000 I think really having a good attitude, viewers out there, listeners out there, you know that you're good people, you know you're leaders, you know that you've done nothing wrong, you know that you're doing this for the right reasons, so you be leaders.

00:25:18.000 You go out and start organizations.

00:25:20.000 I mean, I think, you know, there's no excuse there.

00:25:22.000 Is there, G. Edward Griffin?

00:25:24.000 No, no, no excuse at all, whatsoever.

00:25:26.000 And, you know, in a way, that takes us back, finally, to the Quigley formula.

00:25:30.000 Because Quigley was talking, to a very important extent, about how to provide false leadership.

00:25:38.000 And so I'll be ready for that topic.

00:25:40.000 Yes, let's continue discussing that during this segment.

00:25:44.000 If you're listening to the Infowars.com audio streams, this discussion will continue in 10 seconds at Infowars.com.

00:25:50.000 If not, we'll be back in three minutes to continue fleshing out the Quigley formula.

00:25:54.000 And then your phone calls with G. Edward Griffin.

00:25:56.000 We got him on a bit late today, so we'll be going into overdrive today, 20 minutes after the main transmission ends with G. Edward Griffin.

00:26:03.000 So we have an hour left, or about 50 minutes before us.

00:26:06.000 Stay with us.

00:26:07.000 Okay, G. Edward Griffin, continue with the Quigley formula.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, well, I think it's important to start this off to know who Quigley is.

00:26:16.000 We're talking about Professor Carol Quigley, who was a professor at Georgetown University and was one of the teachers of Bill Clinton when he was a student there.

00:26:28.000 And, um, 27 years later, when Clinton was nominated for the presidency at the Democratic Convention, in his acceptance speech, he gave an honorable mention to Professor Quigley.

00:26:41.000 And then, even after Clinton was elected president, in at least two public appearances of which I'm aware, he again gave honorable mention to this professor at Georgetown University.

00:26:52.000 So, he obviously felt he was a pretty important person.

00:26:56.000 And there were two messages there, because those who did not understand who Quigley was thought that, oh, well, that was nice.

00:27:03.000 He was just giving honorable mention to some kindly old professor who had a profound impact on his political thinking, and isn't that nice?

00:27:12.000 But those who knew who Quigley was and what he represented understood there was a hidden message there.

00:27:18.000 Quigley was the official historian of a secret society.

00:27:23.000 And he wrote two books about it.

00:27:24.000 This society is real.

00:27:26.000 This is not one of those conspiracy theory things.

00:27:29.000 This is very real.

00:27:31.000 And Professor Quigley was the historian of it.

00:27:35.000 And the secret society was formed by Cecil Rhodes at the turn of the last century in England.

00:27:41.000 And Cecil Rhodes devoted the bulk of his entire vast fortune that he made so much money in South Africa because he personally owned the diamond mines and most of the gold resources of that country.

00:27:56.000 One of the wealthiest men in the world.

00:27:59.000 People know that generally, but what they don't know is that he left the bulk of his inheritance, not to his estate, not to his family, but to create a secret society.

00:28:09.000 We know about this because there was a book written by the executor of his estate.

00:28:15.000 The executor's name was William Stead, and he wrote about the... in fact, the title of the book was The Last Will and Testament of Cecil Roach.

00:28:24.000 And so he described the purpose of these wills and Quigley himself was a part of this group.

00:28:31.000 He was allowed to examine its private papers.

00:28:35.000 Quigley said in one of his books that he admired this secret society.

00:28:40.000 He had no aversion to it.

00:28:42.000 He said the only difference of opinion that he had was that this group wished to remain unknown.

00:28:48.000 But by writing these books that Quigley did, just about everything that this group did became a part of the historical record.

00:28:56.000 It was not really intended for consumption by the gum-chewing public.

00:29:02.000 These were academic books meant to be read by academicians, scholarly works, meant to be read by those who were involved in the secret society.

00:29:13.000 We're coming back.

00:29:14.000 Let's continue with Quigley from there.

00:29:17.000 Here we go.

00:29:18.000 We'll be going into overtime.

00:29:26.000 That is, the main radio show is four hours, Monday through Friday, 11 a.m.

00:29:29.000 to 3 p.m., and I come back Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

00:29:33.000 This New World Order takeover is very serious, and I take it very serious.

00:29:37.000 That's why I work normally about 14 hours a day.

00:29:40.000 I've cut back from 18 hours a day.

00:29:43.000 That's why I've made a new film that I'll be showing at the Alamo Draft House this Saturday at 3.30 at downtown Alamo at their new, quote, Ritz location.

00:29:51.000 Details at Infowars.com.

00:29:53.000 For Infowars.com listeners on our internet streams and for those watching presentplanet.tv, we continue during the break talking about Carol Quigley, Now, who set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program.

00:30:03.000 He owned the major diamond mines and gold mines in Rhodesia, in South Africa, north of there.

00:30:10.000 And, of course, it turned out he was just an agent of the Queen the entire time.

00:30:13.000 And, of course, one of his people that worked for him wrote a book about it after he died.

00:30:19.000 Do you think everybody that is a Rhodes Scholar ends up staying on their payroll?

00:30:23.000 Because we see a Chris Christopherson who speaks out against him.

00:30:27.000 We see a Naomi Wolf who comes out and Speaks out against it. 0.93

00:30:31.000 You know, the Marshall Law setup.

00:30:33.000 But I had her on the show a few months ago and I said, but you're a Rhodes Scholar.

00:30:36.000 I said, people ask how we get these guests.

00:30:39.000 We call their publicist, we get them on.

00:30:41.000 You can try it too if you'd like.

00:30:42.000 They think it's a conspiracy that we're able to get them on.

00:30:44.000 It's a big radio show, folks.

00:30:46.000 They want to come on and pitch their book.

00:30:47.000 And you can call them, too, and get them on your show, probably.

00:30:50.000 If you know how to talk to somebody on the telephone, that is.

00:30:52.000 That's the big conspiracy, is just to act friendly.

00:30:55.000 I'm just being sarcastic to some people out there.

00:30:57.000 But the point is, I had her on and asked the hard question.

00:30:58.000 I said, are you for a world government?

00:31:00.000 She said, no.

00:31:01.000 They didn't teach me that in a Rhodes Scholarship.

00:31:03.000 But I know that Cecil Rhodes called for a world government, called for a British, Anglophile-dominated system, merged with the Rothschilds. 0.76

00:31:11.000 So do you think Naomi Wolf is fibbing there? 1.00

00:31:14.000 No, that's a really good question and you're not the first person that asked that question of me.

00:31:19.000 I find it hard to believe that a person can be selected as a Rhodes Scholarship and actually go through the whole process and be educated there in London.

00:31:29.000 And be part of that group without being a devotee of world government.

00:31:34.000 I just find that very, very difficult.

00:31:36.000 You know, Chris Christopherson's people said they knew who we were, but they weren't going to come on the show.

00:31:42.000 Then we get Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and Tommy Chong and Charlie Sheen and German defense ministers.

00:31:48.000 The incredible thing is I had the head of the Kissinger Group on last week.

00:31:53.000 And when I got him on during the break, I said, hello sir, and he started laughing at me.

00:31:56.000 And I said, what's funny?

00:31:57.000 And he goes, oh, Alex Jones.

00:31:58.000 And I said, oh, you know who I am?

00:32:00.000 And he goes, of course we all know who you are.

00:32:02.000 In fact, John Harmon running the show heard it.

00:32:05.000 Hey John, were you listening in on that conversation I had with the head of the Kissinger Group?

00:32:11.000 Yes I was.

00:32:12.000 Are you on air right now?

00:32:14.000 Now I am.

00:32:15.000 Bring yourself on air.

00:32:16.000 Did you hear how he admitted, I mean, I didn't want to toot my horn on air, would have sounded obnoxious, but after the fact, it isn't that he knew who I was, it's actually scary.

00:32:24.000 This is the head of the Kissinger Group, one of the heads of the Carnegie Endowment, and he's saying, yeah, we know, we all know who you are.

00:32:29.000 Well, John, you heard it.

00:32:30.000 Tell, uh, tell Jebber Griffin what he was saying.

00:32:33.000 Oh, yeah, he was very arrogant, and, uh, you know, Jones was joking with him, calling him master, and he seemed to like that, actually.

00:32:40.000 So, uh, yeah.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, I'm sure he does like that.

00:32:43.000 These guys are, you know, very arrogant and, you know, they want people just to do what they say.

00:32:49.000 Yeah, see what happened is we got him queued up and I, you know, John called him at like 29 after and then he was going to be on at 33 after.

00:32:58.000 So I come on and say, thank you for coming on.

00:33:00.000 We're not live yet, but I'm going to have you on in just a moment, sir.

00:33:03.000 He started laughing at me and I said, was something wrong?

00:33:06.000 And he said, nah, Alex Jones.

00:33:09.000 And I went, what?

00:33:10.000 Do you know who I am?

00:33:10.000 And he goes, of course we know who you are.

00:33:13.000 I mean, folks, do you realize they know who I am?

00:33:15.000 G. Edward Griffin, that means we must be hurting him if he wanted to arrogantly laugh at me before we went on air.

00:33:22.000 I mean, I remember six years ago in L.A.

00:33:25.000 having Lionel Shetwan, who made the film about Bush being a hero in 9-11, the head of his film commission, came up in the bathroom while I was at the urinal and threatened me and said, we're going to get you.

00:33:36.000 And then I went out on TV and debated him.

00:33:37.000 But I mean, I'm not tooting my horn.

00:33:39.000 That's actually scary.

00:33:40.000 But that shows how real this is, doesn't it, G. Edward?

00:33:43.000 Oh yeah, this is real stuff, and usually it doesn't happen in the bathroom.

00:33:49.000 It usually happens in the boardroom, but it's very real stuff, Alex, and yeah, you bet they know who you are.

00:33:55.000 You're a thorn in their side.

00:33:58.000 People ask why they haven't killed me. 0.93

00:33:59.000 Why do they think they haven't killed G.E.B.

00:34:00.000 or Griffin, haven't killed Alex Jones?

00:34:02.000 I know you're sick of being asked that, but people are obsessed with it, so please humor them.

00:34:07.000 Well, I know how they work.

00:34:09.000 They want us both eliminated, and they have a definite hierarchy of strategies for that.

00:34:17.000 I've observed it over the years.

00:34:19.000 The first thing they do if they want to eliminate their opposition is to ignore it.

00:34:23.000 And, you know, in 99% of the cases, that works just fine.

00:34:27.000 You don't have to do anything, because their opponents have no funding, they have no voice, they have no following, they have no way to survive, really.

00:34:37.000 And so, usually, they're just a little splash in the pan, and then they go away, entirely on their own.

00:34:43.000 So the first step is to ignore it.

00:34:45.000 If that doesn't work, well, the next step is to discredit it.

00:34:48.000 To destroy it in the eyes of the American public.

00:34:51.000 This is where they bring their big media guns into play. 0.81

00:34:55.000 They try and paint that big brush around the face of their target that makes them look like a Some kind of a real nut, a child molester, a tax evader, a terrorist.

00:35:08.000 God only knows what they can throw at the American public.

00:35:12.000 A hater!

00:35:13.000 Some people believe it.

00:35:14.000 A hater or something like that. 0.94

00:35:16.000 A fascist, a Nazi, a communist.

00:35:19.000 They've got all kinds of words. 0.99

00:35:20.000 A racist.

00:35:22.000 They've got a bushel basket full of words they can throw out.

00:35:25.000 And unfortunately, most of the American people will believe it.

00:35:29.000 So, that usually works.

00:35:30.000 I mean, the few that survive step number one get eliminated at step number two.

00:35:36.000 If they survive step number two, then the next level of opposition is to try and buy them off, either directly or indirectly.

00:35:46.000 They provide funding, or they provide investments in their corporations, and they load their board of directors, and over a period of time, all of a sudden, their organizations are bought off.

00:35:57.000 And sometimes they're even offered money.

00:35:59.000 Why don't you just go retire?

00:36:01.000 You're old enough now.

00:36:02.000 You've done your share.

00:36:03.000 You can go live in the Bahamas. 0.99

00:36:06.000 We have this estate for you and a chauffeur and a limousine and so forth.

00:36:10.000 And why don't you just go away?

00:36:12.000 And if that doesn't work, then finally they turn to more physical things where sometimes people are suicided or That kind of thing.

00:36:21.000 But I know what they do.

00:36:23.000 This is pretty predictable.

00:36:25.000 So the fact that you and I are still surviving means that I guess we haven't been discredited yet.

00:36:33.000 Well, here's what's happening.

00:36:34.000 I had Nightline call me, and I know that's an operation.

00:36:39.000 That show's come out.

00:36:40.000 Is CIA Pentagon run?

00:36:42.000 And I just basically told them no.

00:36:43.000 I said, I have no... First, they wanted to talk to me at first, and I said, we are changing.

00:36:49.000 You want to talk to them?

00:36:51.000 And most people would kill to be on Nightline.

00:36:52.000 Not me, folks.

00:36:54.000 The old adage, any publicity is good publicity, is actually not true.

00:36:57.000 And I just said, you know what, because Discovery Channel comes in, History Channel comes in, BBC comes in, and they'll tell you, oh, I'm a fan.

00:37:07.000 And I go, come on, I know you're lying.

00:37:09.000 I see the predatory look.

00:37:10.000 I know it's a hit piece.

00:37:12.000 And then it's a total dishonest hit piece.

00:37:15.000 And now at this point, they are so discredited.

00:37:21.000 Now if it's live, I'll do it.

00:37:22.000 I've always said I won't turn down anything that's live.

00:37:27.000 I do get those opportunities few and far between and I don't turn them down because there I can actually try to get something out.

00:37:34.000 But to have the head of the Kissinger Group, which As you know, it's one of the most powerful groups out there, and that's a Rothschild slash Rockefeller management group, saying, yeah, I'm coming on, I'm coming on to counter you guys.

00:37:46.000 And I said on air, I said, you guys must really be in trouble if you're having to go ahead and come on shows now.

00:37:52.000 And he basically just said, yeah.

00:37:55.000 And other people have gone out and confronted Glubb, illicit events, and said the New World Order is falling apart.

00:38:00.000 And they say, well, it's in trouble, but we're going to keep it going.

00:38:03.000 I mean, this is their life.

00:38:04.000 Do you want to comment on that?

00:38:06.000 Well yeah, I think it is their life and they know how to manipulate public opinion so these guys must have thought that by coming on to your show that they were clever enough and skilled enough to To create, to move public opinion against you, I guess, or to capture your audience in some way, or at least to paint the picture that they were really nice guys after all.

00:38:30.000 They must have had some vision of how... Well no, they were trying to humanize themselves.

00:38:33.000 He made, we counted it, 10 times in 30 minute interview, which is I guess about 20.

00:38:40.000 Five minutes of air time.

00:38:41.000 He said ten times, well, we've got evil robber barons and we've got to have a world government to contain and control them.

00:38:50.000 Well, that we've already got a world government.

00:38:51.000 These guys already do what they want.

00:38:53.000 We've got to have this global government to control them. 0.97

00:38:55.000 And I said on air, I said, you've said that a bunch of times.

00:38:58.000 And he got mad at that.

00:39:00.000 I said, you're just putting a talking point out.

00:39:01.000 And he said, well, I'm allowed to have my view.

00:39:03.000 And I said, you are the guys that want the world government.

00:39:06.000 It's like, please don't throw me in the briar patch.

00:39:08.000 So I talked to him at the end of the interview, and he was upset.

00:39:11.000 And I didn't taunt him, because I know they're very dangerous.

00:39:14.000 I just said, look, thank you for coming on.

00:39:16.000 I really hope you'll change your mind about trying to enslave us.

00:39:19.000 And he just said goodbye.

00:39:20.000 But he was not friendly.

00:39:22.000 In fact, John, did you hear that, how he was not happy at the end?

00:39:25.000 No, his attitude totally changed.

00:39:28.000 Well, I guess he just didn't achieve his goal, that's all.

00:39:31.000 But you know, thinking back to Naomi, and you asked her whether or not she really might be sincere or not, I have no doubt that she is totally sincere in her opposition to martial law and in her opposition to the neocon agenda.

00:39:47.000 But my question is, why does she not mention anything About the left-wing agenda that is advocated by... It's identical.

00:39:57.000 It's just got a different... It's like a velvet iron fist, you know, a red glove or a black glove over it.

00:40:04.000 It's identical, and she plays the game of trying to make it seem like it's all a right-wing conspiracy.

00:40:12.000 And totally ignores the left wing.

00:40:14.000 And you and I both know the left wing and the right wing are just two different wings of the same ugly bird called collectivism.

00:40:21.000 So when I see a Rhodes Scholar that's playing the game of focusing totally on one side of this little scam and not the other, I know what she's doing.

00:40:31.000 She's trying to generate support for the Democrats. 0.97

00:40:35.000 That's what her mission is, as far as I can tell.

00:40:37.000 And so it's like Judo.

00:40:38.000 It's a classic left-right paradigm.

00:40:40.000 They're using an attack on the right wing of their sector, like a solar panel, to actually energize the other side of the wing.

00:40:48.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:40:50.000 And I don't think somebody as smart as a Rhodes Scholar would accidentally do that.

00:40:56.000 I mean, she has to know what she's doing.

00:40:59.000 Well, I've talked to her privately and she is really friendly, like a great saleswoman.

00:41:04.000 And she's like, oh, please send me all that info.

00:41:07.000 Alex, thank you so much.

00:41:09.000 But I can tell it is a mask.

00:41:12.000 And I'm going to get her back on.

00:41:13.000 Maybe I should get her back on and have you on weather. 0.99

00:41:16.000 Well, I would love to talk to her.

00:41:18.000 I would love to sit down and meet her.

00:41:19.000 You know, there's always the chance that we're wrong, or that I'm wrong.

00:41:22.000 Well, there's always the chance that they see what's happening and they want to turn back.

00:41:27.000 But you're right, she would then be attacking the whole left side of the paradigm.

00:41:31.000 Yes, she should be, because there's no difference.

00:41:34.000 But the good news is, everywhere she goes now, as I've seen the YouTubes, that's being brought up to her.

00:41:39.000 Oh, it is.

00:41:40.000 By leftists.

00:41:41.000 They're going... I mean, are you not seeing what I'm... I mean, I just want your opinion because I don't know.

00:41:46.000 I'm finally seeing the left, like never before, break their chains and become liberty lovers and get past these labels.

00:41:52.000 They're buying guns.

00:41:53.000 They understand the government's bad.

00:41:55.000 They understand any government funding that's given is going to go to corporations.

00:41:59.000 They finally, you know, they finally, I think, are getting it.

00:42:03.000 Well, you mean at the grassroots level?

00:42:04.000 Yes.

00:42:05.000 Yes, no doubt at the grassroots, but up there at the higher elevations where you need oxygen, debris, those guys know exactly what's going on.

00:42:16.000 How did they do that?

00:42:19.000 You talk about how first they ignore you, then they attack you, or first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

00:42:25.000 As Gandhi said, I kind of had it in reverse.

00:42:29.000 These headhunters, in 1998, even 1997, I had like People call me who were big-shot Democrats when I was attacking Bill Clinton, and then I'd find out who they were, and you know, they would say, well, meet with me, but you've got to promise not to say we met, and so I can't say their names.

00:42:46.000 I always, you know, follow my word, unless it's something criminal, and then you meet with this famous Democrat.

00:42:52.000 Or you meet with another person, and this has happened maybe five or six times, and then later it was corporate offers of millions of dollars to be basically a right-winger and put out kind of a new hardcore brand of Rush Limbaugh.

00:43:05.000 I mean, I turned down 600 stations, basically.

00:43:07.000 I was going to be tested out.

00:43:10.000 And I guess most people, you just give them the offer that they just want that money.

00:43:14.000 But money doesn't matter to me.

00:43:16.000 It's ideas that I traffic in.

00:43:19.000 It's history.

00:43:20.000 It's humanity.

00:43:21.000 It's the species.

00:43:22.000 It's my children.

00:43:23.000 I serve ideals. 0.99

00:43:25.000 I guess they see me as a foolish romantic. 0.95

00:43:28.000 But everything we've got was built on romanticism.

00:43:31.000 God bless you, Alex.

00:43:33.000 That's exactly the spirit of America that we need to revive.

00:43:38.000 Well, I just can't... I mean, they generate fiat money out of nothing, and then they buy the world with it.

00:43:44.000 It's such a scam!

00:43:46.000 Well, it is a scam, but it works, and it's very frustrating to all of us.

00:43:50.000 In fact, every once in a while, I still go through that dark night where you wonder, is this really worth it?

00:43:56.000 Is humanity capable of salvaging itself?

00:44:00.000 And of course, when the sun rises in the morning, you always say, yes, you bet, and I'm going to be part of it, and you charge back into it.

00:44:06.000 But boy, it gets awful discouraging at times, because people, you know, you look around, and even in your closest circle of friends, and even some in your family, you think, well, these are excellent people.

00:44:17.000 And yet, you see them kind of sell out when it comes time to get a job, for example.

00:44:24.000 I've seen people work for Well, let's just be specific for the pharmaceutical industry.

00:44:31.000 Beautiful people, I know, and yet they're out there selling these drugs, and you know, deep down underneath, they know that they're hurting people.

00:44:38.000 But boy, is that pay good!

00:44:40.000 And does that car that the company provides, is it nice?

00:44:44.000 And boy, these trips they take to the South Pacific Islands, all paid for by the company.

00:44:49.000 Can you turn that down?

00:44:51.000 But it's all hollow.

00:44:52.000 I mean, I want to feel good about myself.

00:44:54.000 I want to know that I'm helping humanity.

00:44:57.000 And, you know, these yuppies think they can just basically poop everywhere.

00:45:02.000 I hate to use that analogy, but that's what it is.

00:45:03.000 And then it won't soil their own nest.

00:45:06.000 When nobody cares about anybody, everything falls apart.

00:45:09.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:45:11.000 Well, as I said before, fortunately we don't need 51% of the population to have their head screwed on, right?

00:45:18.000 If we can just get 3% or even 2% who understand and who are willing to dedicate a significant portion of their lives to this thing, we can recapture the program.

00:45:29.000 We can turn it around.

00:45:30.000 I agree.

00:45:30.000 Let's jam a call and we'll come back and take a bunch of them.

00:45:33.000 Richard, where are you calling us from today?

00:45:35.000 Omaha, Nebraska.

00:45:36.000 Welcome, sir.

00:45:37.000 Yeah, last night on Educational Network Point of View, they had a special about privatization of prisons.

00:45:48.000 You know, where they went into detail where corporations are actually, if not taking over some prisons, are actually building their own prisons, and then going to state legislatures to actually, what you call, toughen up on laws just so people can get arrested and imprisoned, and then they hire their own

00:46:14.000 Sir, sir, sir, a battery in your backyard, speeding, will now be six months a year in prison.

00:46:20.000 Yeah.

00:46:21.000 I mean, G. Edward Griffin, you want to comment on that?

00:46:23.000 And we'll hold you over into the break.

00:46:25.000 Well, sure.

00:46:26.000 That's the trend, of course, is to get all of these legitimate functions of government, certainly prisons would be a legitimate function of government, to get it out of the political sphere so that the voters couldn't ever have any chance at reforming it, you know.

00:46:38.000 And let's be clear, this isn't free market.

00:46:40.000 We pay the tax money to a private group that just so happens to generally be owned by a money laundering drug cartel.

00:46:47.000 And I'm surprised.

00:46:48.000 Was James Dobson saying this was bad that the prisons go and then lobby for tougher laws to put more of us in their prisons?

00:46:56.000 Well, I didn't catch that, Alex.

00:46:58.000 No, I mean the listener, Richard.

00:47:01.000 Richard, are you still there?

00:47:01.000 James Dobson.

00:47:03.000 I haven't kept up on him lately.

00:47:05.000 Well, I mean, that's focus on the family you were talking about.

00:47:07.000 I'll tell you what, stay there.

00:47:09.000 Richard, I want to continue for InfoWars.com, stream listeners.

00:47:13.000 We're going to talk during this break so we don't waste time.

00:47:15.000 With Richard, Angie Aber-Griffin will come back on the other side with everybody else's calls.

00:47:19.000 It is a big... Okay, I want to continue talking to Richard.

00:47:22.000 Richard, what program was this where they... I mean, we already knew this year, I'm just telling the audience, we know that that's how it works.

00:47:28.000 That's why we have more... we have 5% of the world's population, 35% of the world's prison population.

00:47:35.000 So, there's 5% of the people in the world who live in the U.S., but 35% of the world population in prison is in the U.S., and they're not stopping.

00:47:42.000 They're just doubling the building, more cops, more laws, arrest you for not turning your blinker on, jail time, I mean, just total control.

00:47:50.000 This is the predatory system.

00:47:52.000 What show was this again, where they admitted that the private prisons go lobby for tougher laws to put us, the slaves, in their prisons for 20 cents an hour, building widgets that then take everybody else's jobs?

00:48:05.000 Point of view on an educational network channel and they actually repeated it twice last night.

00:48:15.000 Okay, so that's another show with the name Point of View not related to James Dobson.

00:48:19.000 Uh, no.

00:48:20.000 No, no, no, no.

00:48:21.000 Okay, so were they saying that it was bad?

00:48:24.000 I'm surprised that was on TV.

00:48:26.000 Uh, well, they just went into detail about it, and they pointed it out that, uh, yes, they made the implement, what you call implement, or inclination that it was getting bad when people are being hired to actually privatize How do you call it?

00:48:48.000 They privatized their own guards and they've actually even gotten old prisons to go over.

00:48:55.000 Amazing.

00:48:56.000 I appreciate your call.

00:48:57.000 I was aware of that.

00:48:57.000 I'm just surprised it's on television.

00:48:59.000 A classic example of that is Tulia, Texas.

00:49:02.000 58 black people, no criminal record, no drugs found, were just randomly arrested and put in the local prison.

00:49:09.000 That's the only job in the panhandle of West Texas in that town.

00:49:13.000 And, uh, they later came out, they just said, hey, we gotta have people in the prison, so we just put the blacks in there so we all have jobs.

00:49:20.000 I mean, that's really where this is going, and one in ten college grads is now going to be Homeland Security related.

00:49:26.000 I mean, you've got a better chance of being struck by lightning or being killed by a deer jumping out in front of your car, but we've got to give up our whole life and no Bill of Rights and have the government run our life, and everybody's got to go live in prison to keep us safe from Al-Qaeda, Jim Griffin. 0.69

00:49:39.000 Yes, well you've got the story.

00:49:41.000 This all was predicted more or less by Orwell in 1984.

00:49:44.000 by Orwell in 1984.

00:49:46.000 Remember that section where the, I can't think of the name of the conspirator, but he was speaking to Winston.

00:49:56.000 O'Brien.

00:49:57.000 O'Brien, thank you, yes.

00:49:58.000 And he said, Winston, don't you know we don't have laws to keep law and order?

00:50:04.000 We have laws, so many of them, so that nobody can avoid breaking the law.

00:50:08.000 We need to have everybody a criminal so that we can control them.

00:50:12.000 We can put anybody in prison any time we wish.

00:50:15.000 And so forth.

00:50:16.000 Make that point, make that point to the main audience.

00:50:17.000 Here we go.

00:50:22.000 Here's the deal.

00:50:24.000 Every morning at the mine, you could see him arrive.

00:50:27.000 He stood six foot six and weighed 245, kind of broad at the shoulder, narrowed the hip.

00:50:32.000 And everybody knew you didn't give no lip to Big John.

00:50:36.000 Big John.

00:50:39.000 Here's the deal.

00:50:40.000 We're going to go 20 minutes into overdrive.

00:50:41.000 We're going to go to Ray and Scott, but Abraham, Robert, I want to give you guys a local number of We'll go to you first.

00:50:49.000 512-646-5400.

00:50:49.000 We'll be turning that system on in about five minutes.

00:50:51.000 That's, of course, 512-646-5400.

00:50:51.000 We'll be turning that system on in about five minutes.

00:50:54.000 That's, of course, 512-646-5400.

00:51:00.000 In fact, you're welcome to call in on that right now.

00:51:02.000 But you were making a point in the behind-the-scenes interview we were just doing for the Infowar streams that everybody needs to tune to now.

00:51:10.000 We won't be on the AM or FM or shortwave.

00:51:13.000 The satellite will just be at InfoWars.com with the audio and PrisonPlanet.tv with the video.

00:51:18.000 Would you ever grip him for another 20 minutes or so?

00:51:19.000 We really appreciate him doing that.

00:51:21.000 You were making the point about how, yeah, the private prisons are lobbying.

00:51:25.000 That was just in the news the other day.

00:51:27.000 I'm surprised it's on TV now, that they come and lobby and say, we need more people in prison, because we've got private prisons we've opened, we need to fill them.

00:51:35.000 And so now we see people being arrested for no turn signal, no seatbelt, kids being CPS'd for the smallest of things.

00:51:43.000 I mean, there's millions of new police and bureaucrats, and they're going to find terrorists.

00:51:48.000 And you talked about O'Brien torturing Winston, saying, hey, this isn't for criminals.

00:51:51.000 Can you recap that?

00:51:54.000 Yeah, in 1984, that book, 1984, by George Orwell, the point was made so well, O'Brien is the master criminal, he's working for the government, and he's torturing Winston, who is the good guy, and he's explaining the way that life really is.

00:52:09.000 He says, Winston, come on, wake up, be real.

00:52:12.000 This is the real world you're living in.

00:52:13.000 And he says, you don't think we have laws in order to keep law in order or to enforce justice, do you?

00:52:20.000 No, no, no.

00:52:21.000 He says, Winston, come on, wake up.

00:52:23.000 We have so many laws, we have so many of them that it's impossible not to break laws, no matter what you do.

00:52:29.000 If you get up in the morning, you probably have broken five laws before you brush your teeth.

00:52:35.000 The purpose of having so many laws is so that everybody becomes a criminal, and now we have a reason for arresting anyone, and we can control people because they're all criminals.

00:52:49.000 And I think that's the idea, that we're seeing it unfold right now in our lives today.

00:52:53.000 I saw something on the internet last night.

00:52:56.000 Some poor bloke in the UK got arrested and he spent 18 hours in prison for dropping an apple core on the ground.

00:53:07.000 That's what it's all about.

00:53:08.000 It's all about getting total control, getting you in the system, and I think even a lot of police now realize and know this.

00:53:15.000 I mean, every Roydhead I've seen at the gym, now I see his officers strutting down the street with, you know, deviled skulls tattooed all over them, just smiling with satanic pleasure that this is their time, I guess, and every town's going to have ne'er-do-well goons in black uniforms. 1.00

00:53:34.000 In fact, next hour I want to tell you the story briefly and then we'll go back to the calls.

00:53:38.000 So for all the callers, Ray, Ann, Scott and everybody else, just Abraham, Robert, call in right now at 512-646-5400 and you'll go to the head of the line for those callers that we're holding on Genesis lines.

00:53:53.000 And I want to thank the network for the great job and all the affiliates and everything they do.

00:53:57.000 But I have the footage of FEMA and Road to Tyranny saying the Founding Fathers are terrorists.

00:54:01.000 I have the FBI training manuals with their phone numbers on it saying the Constitution's bad, people that talk about it are terrorists.

00:54:08.000 And I have police squad car video where they arrest people for having pocket constitutions and state police stand there going, I think this is illegal.

00:54:15.000 But at a Christian school in Texas, a major university, they said, you're not allowed to say the Bill of Rights and Constitution is good.

00:54:22.000 It's now a terrorist document.

00:54:24.000 I mean, it's so over the top.

00:54:27.000 And I interviewed those guys.

00:54:28.000 That rebroadcast is coming up in 20 minutes.

00:54:31.000 But we're going to end the main network transmission now.

00:54:33.000 We'll be back tomorrow at 11 a.m.

00:54:36.000 3 p.m.

00:54:37.000 But if you want to hear these other calls and more from G. Edward Griffin, you'll want to go like tens of thousands of people are doing right now and listen at InfoWars.com on those streams and those streams alone or you can watch us at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:54:51.000 We'll be right back on the other side in overdrive with G. Edward Griffin at InfoWars.com.

00:55:00.000 You are listening to GCN.

00:55:01.000 Okay, John, great job.

00:55:03.000 Thanks for everything.

00:55:04.000 Thank you, sir.

00:55:04.000 We'll see you again tomorrow.

00:55:05.000 I forgot.

00:55:06.000 I am... Yes, sir?

00:55:07.000 The phone number to G. Edward Griffin to... Okay, we've got Griffin online.

00:55:11.000 Thank you.

00:55:54.000 Okay, folks, we're back live into overdrive.

00:55:57.000 Got G. Edward Griffin joining us for another 20 minutes to take your phone calls.

00:56:02.000 Got a picture of him and the late, great Aaron Russo up on the computer screen for everybody that's watching via PrisonPlanet.tv right now.

00:56:14.000 And we're going to go back to Mr. Griffin here in just one moment.

00:56:19.000 And I promise I'll get to all of those that are currently holding right now.

00:56:25.000 Going back to G. Edward Griffin.

00:56:28.000 G. Edward Griffin, before we take five final phone calls and let you go, any other key points, any other areas that you want to get into that we haven't covered or gone over so far?

00:56:39.000 Well, I don't know that there are key points that we haven't covered, but I always feel, Alex, that it's necessary to talk about solutions whenever we talk about these problems, because otherwise it can seem so overwhelming.

00:56:55.000 Do we have time for a two-minute seminar on apathy?

00:56:59.000 Yes, please do.

00:57:00.000 I'd like to give you my two-minute seminar on apathy.

00:57:02.000 Yes, sir, go ahead.

00:57:04.000 When I was first trying to spread the word on some of these issues years and years ago, I used to be amazed at how apathetic my friends were.

00:57:14.000 They just would look at me, their eyes would get glazed, they'd roll and they'd look off into space and I'd say, what's the matter with these people?

00:57:21.000 They don't want to hear about the truth.

00:57:23.000 How apathetic can you get?

00:57:25.000 And then one day I realized that the problem was me and not them.

00:57:30.000 And the reason I say that is because if you can imagine that you're lying in a rubber raft and you're out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and you're all alone and you look over the edge and you see little bubbles coming up over the edge and you realize that there is a leak in the raft and you go, uh-oh, this raft is going down and you can sense that it's getting limper and limper.

00:57:53.000 What are you going to do?

00:57:54.000 Well, you're going to do nothing.

00:57:56.000 You're going to just lie there and sink.

00:57:59.000 Because there's nothing you can do.

00:58:01.000 But if you change the scenario, and you look around the raft, and you see an air pump, and a place to screw it in, and you pump air back into the raft, all of a sudden, you're not just lying there apathetic, You're pumping away.

00:58:15.000 You're Mr. Activism from top to bottom.

00:58:18.000 And you'll be pumping away for as long as you have any energy left to do it.

00:58:21.000 And the only difference between those two scenarios is that in the first case there was nothing you could do about it, and in the second case at least there was something that you could do.

00:58:31.000 And I realized that when I was presenting all of these problems to my friends, I was making such a good case that I had convinced them that there was nothing that could be done to change it.

00:58:42.000 And so I was creating the very apathy in them that was annoying me.

00:58:47.000 And so from that point forward, I've always thought to myself, please, please, Edward, when you're talking about problems, you better have a solution, or else you're just going to create apathy.

00:58:57.000 Well, I know this.

00:58:58.000 We can't affect change.

00:59:00.000 Being involved in fighting tyranny is fine.

00:59:02.000 You meet the best people in society.

00:59:06.000 You were designed as a human to try to help your tribe, help your culture.

00:59:10.000 You're designed to be free, to be involved in the animating contest of liberty.

00:59:15.000 And so, I want people to know, A, you don't have a choice.

00:59:20.000 The new old order's coming for you.

00:59:21.000 They've already gotten most of you.

00:59:22.000 You better fight back.

00:59:23.000 And B, this is what life's all about.

00:59:25.000 I mean, people who are wealthy, successful, many of them aren't empowered.

00:59:28.000 They don't feel good.

00:59:29.000 They're unhappy.

00:59:30.000 They're empty.

00:59:31.000 They're looking for something.

00:59:32.000 I assure you, you start fighting tyranny, you start investigating evil, you start confronting evil, you're going to be so alive that you're almost going to be exploding.

00:59:41.000 And I hate to say that, but I am driven, I am obsessed, I am electric, I am a volcano, and I wasn't like this before I found out.

00:59:51.000 With an evil group, was doing all these horrible things, and I didn't control my life.

00:59:56.000 Now I do to a certain extent, because at least I'm fighting back, and I've seen thousands of victories we've had against them.

01:00:01.000 So, really, people are missing out on this animating contest.

01:00:06.000 I mean, who wants to be in the bleachers?

01:00:09.000 I mean, I want to be down like the gladiator in the contest, G. Edward Griffin.

01:00:14.000 Well, that's exactly right, and that's because you have the vision of victory.

01:00:18.000 You actually see that in your mind.

01:00:19.000 You're creating that vision.

01:00:21.000 You know that you can win, or be part of that movement.

01:00:24.000 And so that's what invigorates you, and I'm in the same category.

01:00:27.000 Well, I'd say that's half of it.

01:00:29.000 You're right.

01:00:30.000 The other half is, I realize these people mean business.

01:00:33.000 These people killed 200 million people last century.

01:00:36.000 Right.

01:00:37.000 You don't have any choice, really.

01:00:38.000 Yeah.

01:00:40.000 My Aunt Alice who raised me used to say, I have the courage to fight, but I am too cowardly to surrender.

01:00:49.000 Well, exactly.

01:00:50.000 People always say, Alex, you have such courage, and Jebra Griffin has such courage, and Ron Paul has such courage.

01:00:56.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it would take mindless, blind, insane courage.

01:01:01.000 I mean, you use the analogy of the life raft.

01:01:03.000 It's like I'm in a room with water raising, pouring in out of holes.

01:01:07.000 I'd better find an exit out of here.

01:01:10.000 You'd better find the courage to fight.

01:01:12.000 And that's it.

01:01:14.000 So the problem, though, is that we have to show people that there is some chance.

01:01:19.000 There is something we can do.

01:01:21.000 And you know, there is.

01:01:22.000 It's not just make-believe.

01:01:23.000 It's not the let's figure out something and pump some sunshine into people and say things that aren't true.

01:01:30.000 I really at one point felt that it was pretty hopeless, that it was going to take a miracle, but now I think maybe the miracle is happening and hopefully I'm a part of it, and maybe I'm one of the ways in which it can be implemented.

01:01:42.000 But I don't want to overly keep talking about Freedom Force, but that's my passion, because I see Freedom Force as the solution.

01:01:50.000 And I'm so enthused over it now, I can hardly contain myself.

01:01:56.000 It's not going to happen necessarily in my lifetime, but it's going to happen, and that's the important thing.

01:02:01.000 And you know, when you can go to bed at night and you think, my gosh, we've set in motion something that is going to return this world to a condition of freedom and prosperity and happiness, and you had a role in that, and you had a role in overcoming this great evil, it just puts a smile on your face, and you can go to sleep and relax.

01:02:25.000 Well, I agree with you, and I want to give out some web addresses here in a moment, and we have links to them, of course, all day up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but I also have this sense of my ancestors, and I know the incredible struggles they went through, and when you read what they said, and I don't just mean what the Founding Fathers said, or people in the Magna Carta said, or others that came before against tyranny, even more modern times like Gandhi, in the modern period.

01:02:52.000 But when I read the letters and things that great-great-grandfathers wrote, and it was all about what I'm doing for the family, what I'm building for my grandkids and their kids, it was a continual stream.

01:03:04.000 We were together.

01:03:05.000 And people had that sense.

01:03:08.000 And the globalists try to create a counterfeit of that and say, you know, whatever helps the many, forget the few.

01:03:13.000 It's the opposite.

01:03:13.000 When you help the few, you help the many.

01:03:16.000 And you know, the government doesn't direct it.

01:03:18.000 You individually direct it where you're in control of your community and there really is a community.

01:03:23.000 And that's why I support what you're doing over at Freedom Force.

01:03:25.000 Give them that Freedom Force website.

01:03:27.000 Yes, it's FreedomForceInternational.org.

01:03:31.000 Big, long word.

01:03:32.000 FreedomForceInternational.org.

01:03:34.000 And they can find out more there.

01:03:35.000 Now, I want to talk about, briefly, and then we'll go to the calls, the Church Committee, because you interviewed some of the folks involved with that.

01:03:42.000 You interviewed some of the people in Congress who were the head staffers over investigating the tax-free foundations, and you really helped get some instrumental info out before this fellow died, not just from the Congressional record that we know, Why don't you talk about what the foundations do?

01:03:58.000 Because just last week, Rex Tillerson is in trouble at ExxonMobil, because he won't go along with the global carbon tax.

01:04:05.000 And the Rockefeller family, they admitted, owns that and most of the other oil companies here in the United States and globally.

01:04:11.000 And it came back up that their private foundations own it, but that's secret.

01:04:15.000 We can't know how much money they have.

01:04:17.000 And the fact from my studies that the 1906 trust-busting was really, please don't throw me in the briar patch, just like the Federal Reserve folks put out Well yes, I had the good fortune some years ago to interview Mr. Norman Dodd before he passed away shortly after the interview.

01:04:31.000 them but not too wise they said oh god were for the fellow reserve then and the of the bankers don't like it uh...

01:04:37.000 so can you speak to uh...

01:04:38.000 can you speak to these tax-free foundations and what you discovered well yes i had a good fortune uh...

01:04:43.000 some years ago to interview mr norman dot uh...

01:04:48.000 before he passed away shortly after the interview and the norman dot that had been the chief investigator uh... for the reese committee uh...

01:04:56.000 shortly after world war two And the purpose of the Reese Committee was to investigate the tax-exempt foundations in the United States because there was a lot of concern over what these foundations were funding.

01:05:09.000 They seemed to be funding organizations and movements and textbooks and things like that were absolutely contrary to the principles that made America great.

01:05:21.000 And they seem to be very un-American in the sense that they were advocating change in the American culture, in the American political system, to be brought about by other than constitutional means.

01:05:34.000 They seem to be funding things that were going to subvert the Constitution and so forth.

01:05:39.000 So the job was to investigate these committees, and Dodd was the chief investigator.

01:05:44.000 Well, to make a long story short, I had a chance to interview Dodd on camera, And we have it now at one of the videos that's available on The Reality Zone.

01:05:55.000 It's called The Hidden Agenda.

01:05:57.000 And Dodd revealed the fact that when he talked to the heads of these largest foundations, people like the, you know, the organizations like the Ford Foundation and the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace, and those groups, he found that they had an agenda

01:06:14.000 Which had nothing to do with philanthropy, but in fact it was an agenda to change the thinking of the American people over a period of time by capturing the educational system and by capturing control of government to change the American system away from its traditional roots of a constitutional republic and to convert it into a democracy in which the majority would rule with absolutely no restrictions whatsoever

01:06:45.000 And I want to play a second from the film, The Hidden Agenda for World Government.

01:06:48.000 Yes?

01:06:49.000 With you introducing it, here in just a few minutes, but go ahead.

01:06:53.000 Okay, well anyway, the object of this whole thing, according to one of these men, who is Mr. Gaither from the Ford Foundation, he said, our objective is to sort of change life in the United States so it could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.

01:07:10.000 And that's a direct quote.

01:07:11.000 And of course we found out later... Now again, we're not saying Communists run this.

01:07:15.000 It's bigger than Communists or Nazis or Zionists or Catholics or Easter Bunnies. 0.99

01:07:21.000 Oh, much bigger than that.

01:07:22.000 Because it's the same global management system over every group and Quigley explains that.

01:07:27.000 He even talks about in Tragedy and Hope how we, the Patriots, always attack one head of the Hydra and how it's an agenda and how they work through everything.

01:07:37.000 Can you explain that?

01:07:38.000 Yes, but what he was really talking about was not that we had to be merged with communism, but we had to be merged with a system like communism, that that meant we had to be merged with systems like fascism and Nazism and communism and all of the totalitarian systems of the world.

01:07:56.000 It wasn't just that one.

01:07:57.000 That happened to have been the biggest one.

01:07:58.000 They call it a fusion of that, and that's why we call it Homeland Security, as they did in Germany, the black uniforms, everything.

01:08:04.000 So what they were really saying is that America had to give up its traditions of freedom, had to give up its judicial system, its culture, everything, so we could be comfortably merged with all of these totalitarian systems of the world.

01:08:19.000 And of course, they were talking about the New World Order, but they didn't use those words at that time.

01:08:23.000 Let's play a minute or two of your introduction of him from the film, if people can get it, Freedom Force International.

01:08:30.000 Okay.

01:08:30.000 But here it is.

01:08:34.000 I'm playing this off Google Video, by the way.

01:08:37.000 People should get the DVD of it.

01:08:39.000 Here's Introduced by G. Edward Griffin.

01:08:39.000 Here you are.

01:08:44.000 The Hidden Agenda for World Government.

01:08:47.000 The story you are about to hear represents a missing piece in the puzzle of modern history.

01:08:53.000 Without this knowledge, many contemporary events are simply beyond understanding.

01:08:59.000 You are about to hear a man tell you that the major tax-exempt foundations of this land, since at least 1945, have been operating to promote a hidden agenda.

01:09:10.000 And that agenda has nothing to do with the surface appearance of charity, good works, or philanthropy.

01:09:18.000 This man will tell you that the real objectives include the creation of a worldwide collective estate, including the Soviet Union, Okay, let's stop right there.

01:09:26.000 from behind the scenes by those same interests which now control the tax-exempt foundations.

01:09:32.000 Okay, let's stop right there.

01:09:34.000 Now, explaining this, they put the hammers and sickles back on.

01:09:40.000 They're having the armored convoys again.

01:09:43.000 It's basically just the same system over there that it ever was.

01:09:46.000 Never changed.

01:09:47.000 But that's what you said 20, 30 years ago.

01:09:49.000 That's what Dodd said 30 years ago, 40 years ago, is the plan was to merge the two systems, and now they say they've done that.

01:09:57.000 Well, they've actually progressed quite far, don't you think?

01:10:00.000 I mean, right now, some of the what they used to call KGB agents and the local police in Russia are training at FBI headquarters.

01:10:10.000 FBI agents are training in Moscow.

01:10:13.000 Uh, we exchange, uh, computer information regarding our criminals in both countries.

01:10:19.000 And, uh, you know, it seems that every day you pick up the newspaper, there's another piece of evidence that the two countries are working... And Russia has always for 70 years... 0.83

01:10:29.000 Train groups of mainly CPS kidnapped children.

01:10:32.000 They started that over there.

01:10:33.000 Hitler did it too. 0.98

01:10:34.000 It's the same system.

01:10:35.000 National Socialism, Communism. 0.93

01:10:36.000 It's all command and control, black uniforms. 0.68

01:10:38.000 They just give it different names, give you false choices.

01:10:41.000 Training them how to be Homeland Security, how to beat people up.

01:10:44.000 And now the U.S.

01:10:45.000 is converting its schools over to military, I mean public schools, to military academies, Homeland Security schools.

01:10:51.000 It's the same deal.

01:10:52.000 Yes, and I think what we need to focus on is that we've got to take that word communism off, take the word Nazism off, take the word neo-conservatives off, and look underneath those labels and you find that beast called collectivism.

01:11:07.000 That's the same political ideology that's underpinning all of these systems, and that's what Norman Dodd said, that the tax-exempt foundations were determined to create in America with the acceptance of collectivism, and he used that word.

01:11:22.000 And now that takes us to the full court press.

01:11:26.000 I mean, the literature that I get from the businesses I work with, like UPS, the TV, the local ads, it's all, the earth is dying, we've got attacks, the wicked carbon dioxide.

01:11:37.000 Of course, the globals had to choose something that really was needed for the earth, and that humans exhale, that plants breathe, so they could make us the enemy, as Richard Inhofe, the head of the CFR, said.

01:11:46.000 He said, it's a fraud, it's meant to make us the enemy, so the state can organize operations against free humanity.

01:11:53.000 And then here's the UPS.

01:11:56.000 The thing I got mailed today is a UPS customer telling me I've got to go green and that I'm now under the United Nations and it says you were under the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, an organization established to investigate climate change, its potential impact and options for reducing risk.

01:12:11.000 And it tells me I've got to ride bikes, and a lot of it sounds reasonable, but it's about getting me used to them being the boss.

01:12:17.000 They usually have reasonable sounding things up front, again about habitualizing, following their orders, and it goes through saying we have to have a carbon tax, right here, where I'm pointing for viewers out there, and can you speak a few minutes on that, and then we'll go to the calls.

01:12:33.000 Well, I think your point is well taken again, Alex.

01:12:37.000 A moment ago we were referring to O'Brien's message to Winston that everybody winds up being a criminal, that there are so many laws that you cannot help literally breathing without Violating a law, and here you just came up with the perfect example.

01:12:55.000 When we breathe, we exhale CO2.

01:12:58.000 And now that's a crime.

01:12:59.000 We have excess CO2, they say.

01:13:01.000 And we've got to have a one-child policy, as they're all, Ted Turner, Prince Philip, are all saying, and then it's happening.

01:13:07.000 So there's undoubtedly be some kind of a law that you cannot breathe more than so many cycles per minute.

01:13:15.000 Otherwise, you'll be upsetting the ecology.

01:13:18.000 By the way, you're not joking.

01:13:19.000 The New York Times had a headline last year, a tax on breathing, but went on to say it was good.

01:13:24.000 Go ahead.

01:13:24.000 Oh, the tax was good?

01:13:26.000 Yeah, I mean the headline was shocking, a tax on breathing, but then it said, no, we need a tax on breathing.

01:13:32.000 Well, of course.

01:13:33.000 The New York Times is run by collectivists, and of course they want the tax.

01:13:37.000 They want more than the tax.

01:13:39.000 Let's get to the point.

01:13:40.000 It's not the money.

01:13:41.000 It's the control over the human beings.

01:13:43.000 That's really behind this agenda.

01:13:45.000 It's not just the carbon tax.

01:13:47.000 It's the regulatory agency that administers the carbon tax.

01:13:51.000 It's the control.

01:13:52.000 I think that's really the goal.

01:13:54.000 Absolutely.

01:13:55.000 Continue.

01:13:56.000 Well, what more can I say?

01:13:58.000 Well, I mean, how do we... I mean, they've got genetic engineering, toxic waste dumping, all these serious things that are hurting the environment.

01:14:05.000 So it's also perfect for them, because then they only ninny about something that isn't a dangerous gas, that doesn't even really affect them.

01:14:11.000 They get to tax us, run our lives.

01:14:13.000 They said they're going to have as many environmentalist enforcers as they now have cops.

01:14:18.000 That's another two million bureaucrats. 0.99

01:14:21.000 I mean, this is hellish!

01:14:23.000 Well, those who have read The Creature from Jekyll Island, my book on the Federal Reserve, will recall that there's a section in there toward the back in which we analyze a book called The Report from Iron Mountain.

01:14:23.000 Yes.

01:14:35.000 And this was supposedly a report from a think tank that originated near Iron Mountain in New York, I believe it was.

01:14:44.000 It was a CFR think tank.

01:14:46.000 There's some question as to whether it's authentic or not, but there's no question regarding the authenticity of the conclusion.

01:14:55.000 Yeah, everything that's in that document is said separately in other official documents.

01:15:00.000 Yes, it's quite... you can just hold that document as a template over your daily newspaper and you can see that practically everything in the news fits that template, so you know that it's the real thing.

01:15:14.000 And part of the template was These people who drafted the book said we must have a means of frightening people so much that they are willing to surrender their personal freedoms and they're willing to submit to an all-powerful government and be grateful for it because it'll be offered as a means of providing security for these people.

01:15:39.000 They said, well, what can we use to establish this kind of condition?

01:15:43.000 And they came to the conclusion that war was the most effective threat to bring this about. 0.69

01:15:50.000 But along the way they gave very serious consideration to threat to the environment.

01:15:55.000 And they talked at great length about how the possibility of destruction of the planet and the environmental condition of life might be built up and pumped up to such a magnitude that the people could be scared to death.

01:16:08.000 About the end of life on this planet, and that might become someday a substitute for the threat of war.

01:16:15.000 And they talked at great length about how that could psychologically be substituted as a threat for war, and they said, you know, someday when we have our world government, and we no longer have nations, there will no longer be the threat of war between nations.

01:16:28.000 We gotta find something else other than war.

01:16:31.000 And maybe, maybe the environmental issue will be just the ticket for us.

01:16:37.000 And then we have Richard N. Haas in the 1992 and then republished last year by the CFR Club of Rome document, chairman of the CFR.

01:16:45.000 Have you seen that where he says we'll use the twin rails, one is terrorism to quote wage war on the people, he says that, and then the other rail, and this is public, will be global warming to quote make humanity the enemy and then that will be the organizing thing in society is making ourselves the enemy.

01:17:05.000 Well, that's exactly what they were talking about in the report from Iron Mountain.

01:17:10.000 And when you think about it, terrorism actually has become a good substitute for war because terrorism is not a threat from a nation.

01:17:19.000 It's a threat from something.

01:17:21.000 We don't know what it is.

01:17:22.000 Oh, it's spooky.

01:17:23.000 We've got to treat everybody like they did it.

01:17:25.000 Yeah, terrorists can be anybody, anywhere.

01:17:28.000 You know, so it's no longer a national issue.

01:17:30.000 So they could have a war on terrorism long after there are no nations left.

01:17:35.000 And that's perfect for their agenda.

01:17:37.000 Well, they say, under their global government, now it's going to be rapid reaction forces, basically like 2,000 man SWAT teams.

01:17:45.000 They just sat down in cities when we're revolting to kill us.

01:17:48.000 And nerve gas planes, knockout planes, that's all been declassified.

01:17:52.000 It's just the management and the culling and the reducing.

01:17:56.000 And they say that we're going to struggle and fight back, but they're culling us.

01:17:59.000 They're willing to make the hard decisions.

01:18:02.000 And it'll go on forever.

01:18:04.000 And it'll go on of Boots stomping on the human face forever.

01:18:07.000 Let's take calls.

01:18:08.000 First off is Robert in California.

01:18:12.000 And then we'll go to Abraham and others.

01:18:14.000 Thanks for holding.

01:18:14.000 Robert, you're on the air.

01:18:15.000 You're talking to G. Edward Griffin.

01:18:17.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:18:19.000 One of the things that I wanted to bring up is two things, actually.

01:18:24.000 One, we're trying out here in California to get people to run for small central committee offices and help other campaigns because we found out that If a loser loses this campaign, he still gets to make a certain amount of appointments, depending on how many votes he gets.

01:18:40.000 And the other winner gets to make eight appointments to the State Central Committee.

01:18:48.000 You gotta love the name of the different government agencies.

01:18:53.000 Central Planning Committee, good God, go ahead.

01:18:56.000 But the thing is, is trying to get people to row in the same direction.

01:19:00.000 We have a lot of people with their oars in the water, but they seem to be splashing water back into the boat or going in a different direction, so people seem to be spinning their wheels.

01:19:08.000 Second thing is, like this genetically altered food and stuff, I was watching a documentary called Future of Food, and since they're gene splicing these things in, if we eat this long enough, are these genes able to enter into our systems, are these genes able to enter into our systems, into our children, and now have they become property of Monsanto?

01:19:30.000 Well, I'm not an expert on that, but I think that is probably a philosophical question that can become a legal question, In other words, the courts may inject themselves into that very issue.

01:19:45.000 And that is very spooky to me because I know that companies like Monsanto and other large agribusiness companies They have tremendous clout economically, and they do affect the courts.

01:20:00.000 The courts are passing one decision after another now in favor of Monsanto and other companies, giving them the patented rights on plants and living things.

01:20:09.000 So I think it's theoretically possible, unless we turn things around and recapture control of our government, including our courts, yeah, these giant corporations could probably influence the courts and pass a decision like that.

01:20:24.000 Why couldn't they?

01:20:25.000 If they can control our corn supply, why can't they control our children's supply? 0.99

01:20:30.000 Oh, they've stated it.

01:20:32.000 I mean, it was the U.S.

01:20:33.000 and Kissinger under State Department memorandum 200 that got China to adopt their one-child policy.

01:20:40.000 I appreciate your call, Robert.

01:20:42.000 Really good point.

01:20:43.000 Getting back to Homeland Security, and we'll take more calls, G. Edward Griffin.

01:20:50.000 Homeland Security.

01:20:51.000 The story is now up on PrisonPlanet.com and we have a bunch of videos and confirmed examples and this training flyer and a bunch of other manuals where they say constitutionalist or terrorist, anyone that talks about the Constitution is a terrorist.

01:21:06.000 It has the phone number to the FBI on it.

01:21:09.000 I'm going to put that up on the PrisonPlanet.tv screen for people that are Watching that right now.

01:21:16.000 I'm going to even zoom in on the number.

01:21:18.000 If people want to call the FBI, go ahead.

01:21:20.000 This isn't a joke.

01:21:22.000 Report anybody that talks about the Constitution.

01:21:25.000 We have video of police arresting people for pocket constitutions in the article.

01:21:30.000 This is not satire.

01:21:31.000 I'm not joking around here.

01:21:33.000 For listeners that just now tuned in, this individual at East Texas Bible College, the largest in Texas, He's given us his full name, all the documentation.

01:21:44.000 He's basically given the full story.

01:21:45.000 We haven't put out his full name on air yet, though we gave his friend's name out.

01:21:49.000 He works in the administration.

01:21:51.000 He's getting a doctorate there.

01:21:52.000 He's already a pastor in the town.

01:21:54.000 He was tasked with giving the Boy Scouts a tour.

01:21:57.000 He was outside in the gazebo and he said, you know, always defend the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

01:22:01.000 It wasn't even a radical speech.

01:22:02.000 He said that's what he was taught in the Boy Scouts himself.

01:22:05.000 And Homeland Security showed up in a black suit and a gray suit and black ties and said, we won't even tell you who we are.

01:22:12.000 They had state police with them and the president of the university.

01:22:16.000 And they said, we will arrest you for terrorism if you ever teach the Constitution again.

01:22:21.000 Do you feel like you want to comment on that?

01:22:26.000 Well, there's only one word that I can think of, and it's probably not a polite word.

01:22:30.000 I think it's symptomatic of where our country has gone, and we've got to save it.

01:22:41.000 You can't even comment on something like that.

01:22:44.000 The first question people want to know is, is it for real?

01:22:47.000 And you've already said, yes, this is for real.

01:22:49.000 This is not a joke.

01:22:50.000 This is not even an exception.

01:22:51.000 This is not some little guy that misunderstood.

01:22:55.000 I have squad car video.

01:22:56.000 We're at a checkpoint.

01:22:58.000 They're stopping all the cars.

01:22:59.000 They come over.

01:23:00.000 They say, we want to search you.

01:23:01.000 She says, I have a Fourth Amendment.

01:23:03.000 You can't do that.

01:23:03.000 You're stopping everybody.

01:23:05.000 And she's a naval veteran.

01:23:06.000 And then they pull her out of the car.

01:23:07.000 They find a pocket Constitution.

01:23:09.000 And on tape, they say, well, we better arrest her. 0.99

01:23:11.000 This is illegal.

01:23:13.000 I mean, how did a cop get to the point of thinking a Constitution was illegal when they swore an oath to it?

01:23:19.000 I mean, this is... it's Twilight Zone!

01:23:21.000 I mean, it really is Twilight Zone!

01:23:23.000 Do they still swear an oath to the Constitution?

01:23:26.000 Yes, they do.

01:23:26.000 I wonder.

01:23:27.000 Well, most of them actually don't do their oath now.

01:23:29.000 That's been admitted, yeah.

01:23:31.000 Well, all I know is that most of the police have been subjected to at least one and, in many cases, several seminars where they are all assembled in a big room and somebody comes in from Washington, D.C.

01:23:45.000 and instructs them, gives them profiles on what to look for for terrorists and the kinds of things that they say and where they go and what, you know, what websites they look at.

01:23:56.000 I'm sure your website is on the list, as is ours.

01:24:00.000 Oh, they've shown Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth in Congress and said, this is a terror group, and we need to ban these... I mean, in Congress they're saying ban free speech.

01:24:10.000 So there you have it.

01:24:10.000 Yes.

01:24:12.000 That's the dilemma.

01:24:13.000 That's where we are, and it's getting worse, so what are we going to do about it?

01:24:17.000 Well, Freedom Force International and a lot of other attack salvos we've got in the Info War. 0.87

01:24:21.000 In fact, up on screen I'm going to put the PrisonPlanet.com article.

01:24:26.000 This needs to get out to everybody.

01:24:27.000 And you talked about the seminars they give police.

01:24:31.000 I actually have a clip of FEMA before 9-11, this was on 720-2001, teaching the huge classroom of cops that the Founding Fathers were evil terrorists. 0.89

01:24:44.000 The Founding Fathers were evil terrorists.

01:24:46.000 How about I just play that right now? 0.94

01:24:48.000 Here, here, let's just play a second of it.

01:24:50.000 This is from my film Road to Tyranny.

01:24:54.000 One of my listeners in Missouri... Man, for some reason this... Patriotic firefighter sent us this footage... Yeah, I'm gonna start it over.

01:25:00.000 Here we go.

01:25:01.000 One of my listeners in Missouri, a patriotic firefighter, sent us this footage of a FEMA commando demonizing the Founding Fathers and Christians to a group of police and firefighters.

01:25:11.000 What are Christians and Patriots? 0.71

01:25:12.000 The new Jews? 1.00

01:25:15.000 You're damn right, because think about the Christians, okay? 0.99

01:25:19.000 Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? 0.83

01:25:21.000 What did they do?

01:25:21.000 No.

01:25:22.000 They took your head off! 0.65

01:25:24.000 They beheaded you if you didn't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

01:25:27.000 See, this is reality.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, they're terrorists, but the bottom line is to them, they are not!

01:25:34.000 Now, why is that important to understand?

01:25:36.000 Because they are as committed to their cause and to their way of life as you are yours.

01:25:42.000 And they see you as being wrong.

01:25:49.000 That's very difficult.

01:25:50.000 When people are passionate about what they believe in, they become a very difficult enemy to beat.

01:25:55.000 Who was the first terrorist organization in the United States?

01:26:00.000 Who?

01:26:01.000 Stanley Bob.

01:26:02.000 You mean Thomas Jefferson?

01:26:04.000 Oh yes.

01:26:05.000 You mean, uh, George Washington?

01:26:07.000 Oh yes.

01:26:08.000 Yes.

01:26:08.000 Martin Garrix?

01:26:09.000 These guys right here, let me ask you something.

01:26:13.000 Did they try to scare people?

01:26:17.000 They tried to intimidate the British. 0.99

01:26:19.000 Did they use acts of violence?

01:26:21.000 Your founding fathers, my founding fathers, were involved in acts of terrorism against British officials because they systematically had British officials assassinated.

01:26:31.000 Assassinated.

01:26:33.000 The guys who we call our founding fathers, George Washington, Mr. Honest, who cut down the cherry tree in Mizzou, is the same guy who signed death orders, if you will, on members of the British government, the British Crown, who they wanted to eliminate because politically they had influence in certain pockets of the United States at that time in the 13th century.

01:26:53.000 Okay, so it goes on and on from there, and then we have footage of the police, they pull Abby Newman over, they find the Constitution, and they freak out, and they go, we got contraband, and they go, I can't believe it, I can't believe she's, and they start going, oh, I can't believe she's got one, and it's like they found, like, child pornography or something, it's a pocket Constitution, which we give out, by the way, free with all our video and book orders on the website, because we're evil, and they're just going, oh my gosh, I can't believe it,

01:27:26.000 How do they get the state police, you think, to be so afraid of the Constitution, sir?

01:27:30.000 Well, I think that it's because they attended seminars, just like you were playing there. 1.00

01:27:34.000 But they're, I mean, idiots! 1.00

01:27:35.000 How do they not know that that's what Old Glory symbolizes? 1.00

01:27:39.000 They swear an oath to that.

01:27:40.000 Well, remember what we talked about a few minutes ago about how people will sell their souls and their brains and their conscience for a paycheck?

01:27:49.000 Well, I don't think the police are any different.

01:27:51.000 It used to be, you know, police went into the police force to defend their friends and neighbors.

01:27:57.000 And now I think the motive is a little bit different.

01:27:59.000 It's a good job.

01:28:01.000 Everybody else is getting laid off.

01:28:03.000 This is good pay.

01:28:04.000 No matter what happens, they're going to get paid.

01:28:06.000 And besides that, as long as you've got that badge or police identification in your wallet, you'll never get a speeding ticket.

01:28:13.000 You're one of us instead of one of them, you know?

01:28:16.000 It becomes almost like they're on the inside now.

01:28:19.000 They've got it made.

01:28:21.000 And the fear in the back of their mind.

01:28:21.000 Exactly.

01:28:24.000 They know it's tyranny so they go, I better stay on the winning team.

01:28:27.000 That's exactly it.

01:28:28.000 A lot of these guys are coming back from overseas.

01:28:32.000 They've seen some very bad action.

01:28:35.000 You know, the idea of controlling civilian population over there is that every civilian is a potential enemy.

01:28:42.000 So they've already got the mindset to come back here, and they sign up for the police.

01:28:46.000 It's just more of the same.

01:28:48.000 Let's blast through the calls now.

01:28:48.000 I agree.

01:28:49.000 I'm out of control, keeping Gilbert Griffin too long, and I've got a lot of work to do and a short time to get there as well.

01:28:56.000 Abraham in Ohio, you're on the air.

01:28:57.000 Thanks for holding.

01:28:59.000 Hey, Mr. Jones.

01:29:00.000 Hi.

01:29:01.000 I just wanted to touch on, it's kind of off topic, but I saw on your website today the C-51 in Canada that just hit their floor trying to ban national health care products and they changed the word drug to therapeutic products.

01:29:15.000 This is scary, like what are we supposed to do?

01:29:17.000 Hey, they're coming for your vitamins, they're coming for your kids.

01:29:20.000 Look, government is not reason.

01:29:23.000 It is not eloquence, just like George Washington said, just like Jebra Griffin said last time.

01:29:28.000 It is a very dangerous servant, and a horrible master, and criminals want the levers.

01:29:34.000 They're always going to get it, and there's no end to what they'll do.

01:29:37.000 Not just for money and power, they like hurting you.

01:29:41.000 They like squeezing you.

01:29:43.000 They like putting cancer viruses in your vaccines.

01:29:46.000 They love it that they poison these cops with shots and water and fluoride, and that they still serve them. 0.99

01:29:53.000 Okay, G. Edward Griffin, you want to talk about the mindset of that?

01:29:56.000 Well, you know, I really have trouble accepting that, although I'm not challenging you, Alex.

01:30:01.000 I know that there are some that really get a pleasure out of pulling the wings off... Oh, no, I don't mean your average cop likes it.

01:30:08.000 I mean the top global architects.

01:30:10.000 Yeah, those guys at the top.

01:30:12.000 I have no doubt that they're pretty callous to human suffering, yeah.

01:30:15.000 I agree with that.

01:30:17.000 But also at the middle level and the lower level, I think there must be, there have to be, I hope I'm right, there have to be thousands if not millions of people who are already involved in this new world order that somewhere along the line are going to just They're going to have enough.

01:30:34.000 Like I say, we don't want any more of this.

01:30:35.000 Hey, where do you think I get FBI training manuals and SWAT training for federal marshals?

01:30:42.000 I mean, I've got boxes of it's all the same. 0.97

01:30:45.000 Founding Fathers are terrorists. 0.98

01:30:47.000 Those that talk about freedom are terrorists. 0.99

01:30:49.000 Al Qaeda is secretly white and they're everywhere and their code word is Constitution. 0.98

01:30:53.000 I'm not joking, by the way. 1.00

01:30:55.000 I mean, they treat these cops like they're complete idiots and I guess some of them are because they believe it, but a lot of them are good people and are now freaking out. 0.99

01:31:02.000 Yeah, they're freaking out and then they're afraid because they're in the system and they really know what could happen to them if they turn the other way. 0.99

01:31:09.000 My mind just suddenly went back to some years ago right during the or after the Hungarian revolt.

01:31:15.000 If you remember, Hungary was under a terribly oppressive communist regime and almost overnight there was this unexpected revolt.

01:31:26.000 Yes, and all of a sudden the communist regime was no longer in control and some of the military actually turned against their own military and there was complete mayhem there for a while and for a week or so afterwards the population in Hungary went rampant and they were They were running down some of the secret communist agents who had been running the torture prisons and they were assassinating these people.

01:31:56.000 They were seeking revenge.

01:31:58.000 And it was amazing, because I had talked to some Hungarians that came out of that, and they gave me a blow-by-blow description. 1.00

01:32:04.000 Oh, well, give it to us if you have the time.

01:32:05.000 If you have to go, go ahead.

01:32:07.000 I can just say it very quickly.

01:32:08.000 They said, all of a sudden, everybody who was involved in this communist apparatus was coming out and saying, oh, we hated it all along.

01:32:15.000 We just, we didn't support it.

01:32:16.000 We just didn't know what to do.

01:32:18.000 Of course, they were trying to save their hides right now.

01:32:21.000 But, you know, it's like after the, after World War II, all of the people who were in the Nazi party in Germany suddenly said, oh, we hated Nazism, we didn't support it at all.

01:32:31.000 It depends on who's winning.

01:32:34.000 And there is a percentage of the population that will go to the winner, no matter what.

01:32:39.000 Well, it's like rooting for whatever team you think's going to win.

01:32:42.000 If you're going to be a sports fan, root for the team bad and good.

01:32:45.000 You know, good years and bad.

01:32:47.000 And I hate to use that petty analogy, but, you know, exactly.

01:32:50.000 They root for who they think's already winning.

01:32:52.000 Yeah, right.

01:32:53.000 So that's what you find in a political system, too.

01:32:56.000 And you found it in America during the Revolutionary War.

01:33:00.000 Most of the Americans, the colonists, sat on the sidelines.

01:33:03.000 And after the revolutionaries won the war, everybody said, well, I was always solid for the revolution, but had they lost the war, they would have said, well, I was always a supporter of the king.

01:33:12.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:33:13.000 Most people are sitting on the sidelines.

01:33:15.000 Why isn't anybody waking up?

01:33:17.000 Well, they are waking up.

01:33:18.000 I mean, I've never seen an awakening this big.

01:33:20.000 But the enemy media is not going to tell you that we're waking up.

01:33:24.000 G. Eber Griffin comments on that.

01:33:25.000 Yeah, that's because they don't want that mass exodus.

01:33:29.000 People want to be on the side of the movement.

01:33:32.000 So if the media let the people think that there was a movement toward waking up, then there would be more people waking up.

01:33:39.000 Abraham, thanks for the call.

01:33:40.000 Jebra Griffin, I've got four more calls, but if you've got to go, I don't... I do.

01:33:45.000 So you've got another show or some work you've got to do coming up?

01:33:47.000 I sure do.

01:33:48.000 Okay, do you have one more minute?

01:33:51.000 I certainly do.

01:33:51.000 Okay, in closing, I don't want you to think you can't challenge me.

01:33:56.000 I said something earlier about pure evil in government, and you were saying, I don't know if I can believe that they're all that evil.

01:34:02.000 I wasn't saying that.

01:34:04.000 Were you specifically wanting to disagree with me on anything I was saying?

01:34:08.000 No, I was just feeling uncomfortable, Alex, with the idea that all of the people involved in this movement are evil people and that they enjoy inflicting pain.

01:34:19.000 And I don't think that's what you were saying either.

01:34:21.000 I just wanted to clarify that that wasn't my view. 0.99

01:34:23.000 No, no, I agree with you that most of them are ignorant. 0.87

01:34:25.000 In fact, a lot of them are doing evil things and think it's for the greater good. 0.98

01:34:29.000 Yes, yes.

01:34:30.000 Okay, well, Freedom Force International, give them that website.

01:34:33.000 Yes, it's freedomforceinternational.org.

01:34:36.000 Be prepared to spend some time, and if you really want to do something about changing the events we're talking about, if you want to make a difference in the world, and not just complain about it, this is the place for you.

01:34:48.000 Well, I want to have you back up again.

01:34:49.000 I mean, I have you up about once a year over the last 12 years, 13 years, but time is short as you know, so I appreciate you spending so much time with us, and take care, my friend.

01:34:58.000 Well, thank you so much, Alex, and God bless you, and talk to you next time.

01:35:01.000 take care there goes you ever driven now i'm gonna honor your calls because i appreciate you holding sorry you talk that's a start to grab the little brought up so many points every each caller about a minute or so so we get to everybody and wrap this transmission up because out the re-rodcast is about to begin and i want you to hear this this fellow who was there the eyewitness uh...

01:35:20.000 who was there uh...

01:35:22.000 while uh...

01:35:23.000 they were telling him the constitution that's terrorism you can't talk about it i mean the the This is big news, folks.

01:35:30.000 Bill in Colorado, you're on the air.

01:35:31.000 Hey, how you doing, brother?

01:35:34.000 It's good talking to you.

01:35:35.000 Good to talk to you, Bill.

01:35:36.000 Hey, just for all the non-believers out there, I am a victim of 30 years of three microchips embedded into the back of my neck.

01:35:50.000 And at the time when my father came back from Vietnam, he was working for, get this, I found out through the Social Security Administration and two hospital administrators, that he was working for the DOD, the Navy, and the Army at the same time.

01:36:08.000 And when I had to go in for my surgery, this was after, this was March 21st of last year, I ended up putting a crowbar accidentally through my, I was trying to put a lift kit on my jeep truck anyway, ended up flying back about 20 feet, landed on the back of my head, shoved this crowbar three and a half inches into my brain, into my temporal and frontal lobe, and so I had to have some serious surgery done, and one of the neurosurgeons,

01:36:39.000 Had come into the room, this is after my second injection, and they said that, they told my wife and her family and my mom, and my mom said it was all my dad, and she walked out, didn't even stay for the surgery or anything, and they said, look, he's got a 10% chance to live on this.

01:36:58.000 If we strap him down to the operating table, and that Rambo chip in his right shoulder goes off, he's dead. 1.00

01:37:05.000 And she walked out and just irate and tried to totally find it. 1.00

01:37:09.000 Well, I'll tell you what, I appreciate your call.

01:37:11.000 Send me some info.

01:37:12.000 I know the government did a lot of testing on children.

01:37:14.000 There's a lot of declassified programs on that.

01:37:16.000 I mean, they had remote-controlled cockroaches 30 years ago, robo-rat 40 years ago that they just now show the slave public. 0.87

01:37:23.000 Google any of those terms if you'd like, folks.

01:37:25.000 But there's also a whole class of schizophrenics and people out there who also think that they have chips.

01:37:29.000 But your story is very interesting.

01:37:31.000 Send me some documentation.

01:37:32.000 We'll have you on as a guest.

01:37:34.000 Leo, in mass, you're on the air.

01:37:36.000 Go ahead.

01:37:37.000 I'm sorry I couldn't get to talk to Mr. Griffin, although I did meet him.

01:37:40.000 Well, he started sounding a little bit frustrated, so I figured, oh, my gosh, he's got to go, so I let him go.

01:37:46.000 Oh, sure, sure.

01:37:47.000 Have him on again.

01:37:48.000 He's great.

01:37:48.000 Anyway, um...

01:37:50.000 I think what we're missing... Oh, and Brother Alex, please, slow down.

01:37:54.000 I don't want you to get a heart attack.

01:37:56.000 Well, I did just slow down.

01:37:57.000 I just went to the beach for a few days with the family, and then I'm completely crazed when I come back.

01:38:01.000 In fact, I think the thing is, get a lot of other people to fill in for you so that they know that if you go down, there's a lot of other people just waiting to step into the breach.

01:38:10.000 That's your only way to be safe.

01:38:12.000 Let them know.

01:38:13.000 See, you've got to realize it's them against us.

01:38:16.000 And let them know that if they do you in, then somebody's going to step right in there and do the same thing.

01:38:21.000 Oh, I don't, yeah.

01:38:23.000 You know, I talk a lot about that because people constantly marvel and discuss it, and I have to be killed by the government to prove I'm a good person.

01:38:31.000 It isn't about that.

01:38:33.000 And it's about the issues.

01:38:35.000 Well, I know, but you just brought me up being killed, so I'm commenting.

01:38:38.000 Go ahead.

01:38:39.000 Anyway, what's really a problem with us is we're not using parody and sarcasm the way we should.

01:38:45.000 Now, I think we should say that...

01:38:47.000 We should petition the people to make the courts a Constitution-free zone.

01:38:51.000 I think that's what we're playing the game with.

01:38:53.000 Well, the feds have already been saying that the Constitution is not admissible in any federal court, and there's a ban on the Second Amendment.

01:38:59.000 You and I know this, and I'm a few selected few know it.

01:39:03.000 It doesn't get down to the bottom.

01:39:04.000 YouTube, with people saying, oh yeah, I think the courts should be a Constitution-free zone, should go up on the YouTube.

01:39:10.000 See?

01:39:11.000 No, no, no.

01:39:11.000 You should go before your city council and propose a ban on any liberty or freedom.

01:39:17.000 Or no, let's go too far.

01:39:18.000 No, no. 1.00

01:39:18.000 Or say, for the carbon tax, we should all kill ourselves. 1.00

01:39:21.000 No, no.

01:39:21.000 The courts are a very important issue.

01:39:23.000 The courts are the places where the Constitution is being scrapped.

01:39:27.000 So that we should let them go ahead with it.

01:39:29.000 Say, okay, we'll make it right that the courts can be a constitution-free zone. 1.00

01:39:33.000 Play what they're doing up to the limit and go overboard and use hyperbola as a tool against them because they don't want people to realize that the courts are a constitution-free zone. 0.99

01:39:43.000 Well, no, I agree with you, but I mean, it's so over the top that it's... Well, we can go over the top and make them look like idiots because that's what they're doing. 0.96

01:39:51.000 Well, I mean, this is the New York Sun headline, gag on 2nd Amendment and cities aimed to, uh, in gun suit. 0.95

01:39:59.000 So, I mean, it's just, now tasers telling doctors will sue you if you say taser caused somebody to die?

01:40:06.000 That is incredible.

01:40:07.000 No, I mean, we have entered total lala land.

01:40:10.000 You're a great caller, thanks.

01:40:11.000 I'm going to get to everybody else here.

01:40:13.000 Speaking of the devil, I am not going to work as hard.

01:40:16.000 I've got to go home for a few hours before I come back tonight.

01:40:18.000 Finish up the film that you're going to be seeing coming up next Saturday and Sunday at the Elmo Draft House in Austin, Texas.

01:40:25.000 Details at Infowars.com.

01:40:27.000 Joe in California, go ahead.

01:40:29.000 Hey, how you doing, Alex?

01:40:30.000 Good.

01:40:30.000 I haven't spoken to you in a while.

01:40:31.000 I really wanted to share this with Mr. Griffin, because he's awesome, and he's the one that led me to find this.

01:40:37.000 I've got an incredible quote with regards to what's going on with the North American Union by, actually, of all people, Carroll Quigley, on page 133 of Tragedy and Hope, and he says the following.

01:40:48.000 The Rhodes Secret Society was, quote, constantly harping on the lessons to be learned from the failure of the American Revolution and the success of the Federation of 1867, and hoped to federate the various parts of the empire as seemed feasible, then confederate the whole of it with the United Kingdom into a single organization, hoping to bring then confederate the whole of it with the United Kingdom into a single organization, hoping to bring the United States Yeah, here he is saying the failure of the British Empire was not keeping the Americanos under their control.

01:41:15.000 And he goes on to say, making Washington the capital of the whole organization, or allow parts of the empire to become states of the American Union.

01:41:25.000 Emphasis added.

01:41:26.000 Isn't that incredible?

01:41:28.000 Yeah, and they're setting it up, and as the toll roads go in, and they call it Trans-Texas Corridor, they say on the news these toll roads do not exist.

01:41:36.000 As they go in, and as it says Trans-Texas Corridor, the news announces that that doesn't exist.

01:41:42.000 Folks, I'm not kidding.

01:41:43.000 We are dealing in total mind control.

01:41:45.000 Just absolute la-la land. 0.87

01:41:47.000 The Constitution's arrestable if you mention it.

01:41:50.000 Black uniforms are good.

01:41:54.000 He quickly got this from the documents dated 1884 to 1915 from the Secret Roads Chica Society.

01:42:04.000 I mean, this has been in the making for ages.

01:42:08.000 Absolutely.

01:42:08.000 I know.

01:42:09.000 You know what?

01:42:10.000 I have read Tragedy and Hope.

01:42:11.000 Believe it or not, I have read the entire 900 pages.

01:42:15.000 But that was years ago.

01:42:16.000 And I had a copy around here and gave it to a local journalist who ran off with my only copy.

01:42:21.000 We've got to buy another.

01:42:23.000 But why don't you do a scan of that and then, you know, like write an article.

01:42:26.000 Just point out Cecil Rhodes admitted they had planned for North American Union as part of British Empire in 1910 or whatever.

01:42:33.000 And then send it to Aaron at InfoWars.com.

01:42:38.000 Got it.

01:42:38.000 Hey, good job.

01:42:39.000 Good to hear from you.

01:42:40.000 You bet.

01:42:41.000 Last caller, Nicholas in Denver.

01:42:44.000 Hi, Alex.

01:42:45.000 Hello, sir.

01:42:45.000 Everything you're doing.

01:42:46.000 No, you're with Al-Qaeda.

01:42:47.000 Here, go ahead.

01:42:50.000 We all are now.

01:42:51.000 We're all terrorists because we love freedom.

01:42:52.000 Go ahead.

01:42:53.000 Sorry.

01:42:54.000 What I have to say is, I understand, you know, people are running for, you know, like, small offices around the country now.

01:43:00.000 People are waking up, whatnot.

01:43:02.000 But do we have enough time left to Take over control of the system again.

01:43:12.000 Do we have that much time?

01:43:13.000 Is there anything other than, like, a Gandhi-style march on Washington that would actually reverse what is going on?

01:43:22.000 Because the system, obviously, is hijacked, you know, and how do you reverse that in time?

01:43:29.000 I mean, when another attack happens, it's over, don't you think?

01:43:35.000 It's not over because if we would have let them grandstand after they staged 9-11, the next attack it would have been over.

01:43:41.000 But now we've taken their favorite tool of attacking us and posing as our saviors and we've smashed it in front of them.

01:43:49.000 And so now, no, they're scared.

01:43:53.000 I mean, I had a top levelist on last week, and he knew who I was, and was well aware, and was trying to come on and counter us, and he wasn't happy at the end of it. 0.95

01:44:00.000 I mean, his stupid little tricks, he was shocked that, you know, even though he knew who we were, he thought he would just mesmerize us, and the guy's really nothing. 0.96

01:44:08.000 We're going to defeat him. 1.00

01:44:09.000 I appreciate your call, sir.

01:44:12.000 I mean, I've got all this other news here.

01:44:15.000 A guy in Canada, the patient was dying.

01:44:18.000 His lungs are going out.

01:44:20.000 He's 82.

01:44:20.000 He has horrible emphysema.

01:44:22.000 The hospital admits that he gets delusional and collapses.

01:44:26.000 And so he was mumbling under his breath saying, I'm going to get you.

01:44:30.000 And rather than medical workers coming in and holding him down and strapping him down and getting him oxygen, he went, oh my gosh, the man's delirious.

01:44:38.000 All the time, people that have diabetes who are stumbling around, you know, From blood sugar problems, delirious, they taser them.

01:44:45.000 Or autistic kids, they're tasering them. 1.00

01:44:47.000 I mean, just Google it.

01:44:48.000 It's just, oh, this 82-year-old man, strapped down in his bed, is threatening people, deliriously, dying, admitted he was dying.

01:44:58.000 And it doesn't matter.

01:44:59.000 We'll just deal with him. 0.98

01:45:00.000 You know, this person's very wicked.

01:45:03.000 So there's that article.

01:45:05.000 Connecticut man says cops broke into his home and ripped out his catheter.

01:45:08.000 They admit they did.

01:45:09.000 They're like, watch this, and just ripped it out. 0.82

01:45:11.000 I mean, just total steroid goons. 0.77

01:45:14.000 That's AP.

01:45:15.000 Ex-cop officers routinely lie to obtain search warrants.

01:45:18.000 They call it liefying.

01:45:20.000 Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

01:45:21.000 This is the type of news I don't get to on the show.

01:45:23.000 People say, you're just Trying to bash cops.

01:45:25.000 Folks, I could go for 10 hours with the stuff that comes out every day.

01:45:30.000 I don't even cover this on air most of the time because I've got other things to cover.

01:45:33.000 I'm very sad about this man arrested for turning without signal outside Austin.

01:45:39.000 Alright, I'm out of time.

01:45:40.000 That's it, ladies and gentlemen, for this transmission.

01:45:44.000 I'm going to be showing my new film, Truth Rising, that's Cinema Veritas.

01:45:49.000 Cinema Verite.

01:45:50.000 There is no voiceover, no nothing.

01:45:52.000 It's very well done.

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01:45:58.000 And then that's it.

01:45:59.000 I'm not showing it anymore.

01:46:00.000 That's it.

01:46:00.000 It's going to be on DVD and PrisonPlanet.tv members.

01:46:03.000 It'll be out in a few months.

01:46:05.000 I'm just having this to really gauge what people think of it, maybe tweak it a bit.

01:46:08.000 So this is really a special event.

01:46:10.000 Hope to see you there.

01:46:11.000 Details at InfoWars.com.

01:46:14.000 And I want to thank the fine crew for the wonderful job they've done.

01:46:16.000 I have now done 4 hours and 50 minutes, 30 seconds.

01:46:21.000 And I am now going to sign off.

01:46:24.000 We will meet the show, I might as well go four minutes until the rebroadcast perfectly meshes with the show.

01:46:30.000 We'll now be into the second segment with the young Pasker who was told he'd be arrested by Homeland Security.

01:46:36.000 Have you ever talked about the Constitution to anybody again?

01:46:38.000 And that story's up on Prison Planet.

01:46:41.000 And I really want to ask everybody out there, if we're not able to stop this 26,000 preachers out telling their flocks to turn their guns in and go to FEMA camps, if we're not able to expose that we have the FBI training manuals where they're saying people that talk about freedom are terrorists, if they're able to get away With all of this, they are going to basically just have it accepted.

01:47:06.000 Like, yes, you're not allowed to say we're supposed to have freedom.

01:47:09.000 That's terrorism.

01:47:11.000 We must take your freedom to protect your freedom.

01:47:14.000 We have to stand up and say, this is insane.

01:47:17.000 You have these secret police creeping around everywhere, engaging in these types of behaviors.

01:47:23.000 We have to do this now.

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01:48:05.000 Because you see, we didn't have the servers.

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01:49:59.000 This is what we do.

01:50:01.000 This is what we are all about.

01:50:03.000 I'm out of time.

01:50:04.000 We will now go into retransmission with key info.

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01:50:16.000 Headline, Feds accuse students of terror and espionage for talking about Constitution.

01:50:22.000 You can't make this stuff up.

01:50:25.000 Only in the land of the coward, home of the slaves. 0.95

01:50:27.000 Let's make it land of the free, home of the brave again.

01:50:29.000 Let's get this country back.

01:50:30.000 Alright, that's Alex Jones with five hours of radio.

01:50:33.000 See you back tomorrow.

01:50:35.000 See, I do this because I love it.

01:50:37.000 Not like the other talk show hosts who just want to be big daddies.

01:50:39.000 This is the real deal.

01:50:40.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - May 12, 2008

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