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00:00:00.000 And the prosecutor's going to say, well, you're going to file it with me.

00:00:02.000 OK, I'll file it with you.

00:00:03.000 And then he'll refuse to give them to the grand jury.

00:00:05.000 Then I'll file against both of them.

00:00:06.000 You get up there in the higher areas.

00:00:09.000 We're the sovereigns.

00:00:09.000 We can do that.

00:00:11.000 I mean, we're human beings.

00:00:13.000 They forgot that. 1.00

00:00:15.000 I thought they're authorities and we're scum. 0.99

00:00:16.000 Well, I tend to remind them that I'm sovereign. 0.99

00:00:19.000 I never tell them I'm sovereign, but I do things that sovereigns do.

00:00:23.000 I don't care what they say about a grand jury.

00:00:26.000 From what I can find in Texas, there's no law in Texas that says I cannot approach the foreman of the grand jury while he's sitting on the toilet.

00:00:34.000 If it doesn't say I can't do it, I can do it.

00:00:37.000 So I go to the highest courts, I go to the highest judges and the grand jury at the drop of a hat.

00:00:44.000 Well, Randy, we're going to have to have you back up for two hours to take calls sometime.

00:00:47.000 Very interesting fellow.

00:00:48.000 I plan to get George Gordon back on the show, too.

00:00:50.000 I haven't had him on in about five, six years as we explore other areas, but the website is jurisimprudence.com, and in the next month or so, we'll have another seminar here in Austin or any surrounding area.

00:01:07.000 I'd like to have you back in the studio to plug that.

00:01:10.000 Randy Kelton, thanks for the time.

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00:05:05.000 Okay, I was so busy during the break doing so much, I forgot to ask if we have our next great guest lined up, John.

00:05:12.000 Fantastic! We are live, ladies and gentlemen, now well into this fourth hour.

00:05:18.000 And we just had a real character in studio with us, a really nice fellow, Randy Kelton.

00:05:52.000 Karen, Jesse Ventura's gone further on this show and other shows the last two days, saying that he thinks 9-11 was partially an insurance fraud blowing up the buildings, and that he believes our government may have done it, not just that he thinks we're being lied to.

00:06:05.000 And, you know, you can love him, you can hate him, the point is it takes courage to do this, and it's really starting to break into the mainstream media.

00:06:12.000 What do you think about this?

00:06:13.000 Well, I absolutely think that Jesse Ventura has courage.

00:06:17.000 That is for sure.

00:06:19.000 I often wonder what Mr. Larry Silverstein is doing these days.

00:06:24.000 Oh, he just now got some new multi-billion dollar settlement.

00:06:29.000 And he's suing, I think, for $12 billion to get even more.

00:06:32.000 I mean, he is doing quite nicely on a $189 million investment made two months before the attacks.

00:06:39.000 Yeah, that's quite interesting.

00:06:43.000 Well, it's just amazing is what it is.

00:06:45.000 I wanted to get you on for most of an hour to take phone calls for folks that wanted to talk about 9-11.

00:06:50.000 There's a perfect way to do it with all the things that are breaking at 1-800-259-9231.

00:06:57.000 But I wanted to, with you, talk about, I mean, you said day one you questioned the official story, but I also wanted to walk through, you know, some of the main points you think people should look at, Senator.

00:07:12.000 First of all, if I can, Alex, I want to tell you about something that we are proposing to do out here in the Phoenix area.

00:07:20.000 I'm very, very excited about it.

00:07:21.000 We had what we call a 9-11 meet-up group last night, and there is a gentleman by the name of Blaine who is going to do what we're calling hunger for truth, and he is going to do a fast that he is beginning out in front of Senator John McCain's office.

00:07:41.000 Okay. Barack

00:08:11.000 Obama's office in Chicago, Hillary Clinton's office in New York, even Nancy Pelosi's office in San Francisco.

00:08:20.000 So these areas are also going to be targeted with 9-11 people for truth that are trying to get these legislators to open up their eyes.

00:08:32.000 Why they can't see that there were more than two buildings that fell and one wasn't even hit by a plane is beyond me.

00:08:42.000 Tell us more about this, Senator.

00:08:46.000 Well, you know, if you trust your eyes, you just look at the pictures, you can see that building 7 is falling down, not because it was hit by a plane, but because of explosions, because of demolitions.

00:09:00.000 And, you know, how do you account for that?

00:09:04.000 Well, you know, we didn't play all of this.

00:09:06.000 It's about three minutes long.

00:09:08.000 If it's okay, would you like to hear Jesse Ventura?

00:09:11.000 On that rascal Howard Stern this morning.

00:09:16.000 They attacked him because of his appearance here yesterday and a month and a half ago when he first went public saying it's an inside job.

00:09:23.000 And he went further than ever here and I want you to respond to the disinfo.

00:09:26.000 That's why we're playing this clip so we can critique it and analyze it for fair use here.

00:09:31.000 But I want to get your take on that.

00:09:34.000 You're game to listen to this, right?

00:09:36.000 Sure, you bet.

00:09:37.000 Okay, go ahead and roll it.

00:09:39.000 Hey, you're one of those guys who believes that 9/11, that you don't believe two planes knocked down three buildings, right?

00:09:46.000 Well, I believed it when it happened, and then after I got out of office, my son kept badgering me to pay attention to these things on the internet.

00:09:55.000 And I finally did, and I started studying it, and I started opening my eyes a little.

00:10:00.000 And there's a lot of very difficult questions that have not been answered.

00:10:03.000 No one seems to want to provide an answer.

00:10:05.000 What's the most difficult question that you see?

00:10:07.000 Well, that a third building could fall into its own footprint five years.

00:10:11.000 So what do you think happened?

00:10:19.000 didn't even address the issue.

00:10:20.000 So what do you think happened?

00:10:21.000 I hate to fear what could have happened, that possibly we did it to ourselves.

00:10:27.000 You're kidding me.

00:10:29.000 Well, Howard, I worked in demolition and was trained by the best guys in the United States Navy being a frog man.

00:10:36.000 And how could those buildings fall at the rate of gravity?

00:10:40.000 Well, let me ask you something.

00:10:41.000 It seems to me, I don't know much about this, but when jets go right into a building, couldn't there be so much trauma to the area that things can fall?

00:10:51.000 No, because if you study how they built the buildings, those buildings were made to withstand a 707, which is that old plane with the four engines on the wing.

00:11:00.000 Right. Well, that's as big as what hit it.

00:11:03.000 And by my studying, they said it was built to...

00:11:06.000 Alright, stop.

00:11:06.000 And then I'll get the Senator's comment.

00:11:08.000 Talking to Senator Karen Johnson from Arizona.

00:11:13.000 I actually have played clips of Nomuro Yamasaki, the designer, the architect, and the structural engineer.

00:11:21.000 I forget his exact title.

00:11:23.000 He was the head engineer over its actual construction, the construction engineer.

00:11:27.000 And he went public.

00:11:30.000 We have the clip we can play it again, I guess, where he says it was designed to take two strikes per tower of a plane as big or bigger. 0.90

00:11:38.000 I mean, it's just ridiculous.

00:11:40.000 Would you like to comment on that? 0.86

00:11:42.000 Well, Alex, I definitely agree.

00:11:45.000 You know, when you look at Building 7, I think it was 47 stories.

00:11:50.000 The Twin Towers were approximately 110.

00:11:54.000 And from what we were able to observe over and over and over, those planes hit close to the top of those towers.

00:12:02.000 And, you know, I can see the top part of it perhaps toppling over.

00:12:07.000 There is no way.

00:12:09.000 Fires burn up.

00:12:10.000 They don't burn down.

00:12:12.000 And for that, at least, I mean, I'm no expert on this, but to have it go all the way down, a fire from jet fuel, which doesn't even burn hot enough to melt steel, to burn all the way down and, you know, Well, then we have the NASA and FBI photos from aircraft and space showing 2,600-plus degrees, close to 1,000 degrees hotter than jet fuel does at its hottest.

00:12:39.000 I mean, this is insane.

00:12:40.000 This is absolutely amazing.

00:12:42.000 And the firefighters reported molten steel flowing like lava down in there.

00:12:47.000 And then you have BBC reporting that Building 7 fell 25 minutes before it fell, and giving the exact official story of how it then...

00:12:55.000 I mean, that's like with the JFK murder.

00:12:57.000 How New Zealand and Australia and Thailand and others reported before they even announced in the U.S. or caught him that it was Lee Harvey Oswald and he'd done it because they got their time zones off.

00:13:07.000 You are right on, Alex.

00:13:09.000 I still, you know, I've got a picture of that gal reporter from the BBC and she reported I think about 5 p.m. that Building 7 had already collapsed and it didn't collapse until 520 and it's in, you can see it behind her still standing.

00:13:25.000 I mean, what's going on here?

00:13:27.000 Well, I think we've done the best presentation of that in the new edition of Terror Storm.

00:13:30.000 That's why I hope people get the DVD at Infowars.com.

00:13:33.000 uh Karen, I mean, I don't want to focus on how you've been attacked, because, you know, for all the attacks, you've been loved a million times more.

00:13:41.000 I mean, even the polls show the majority of people know it's an inside job now, not just, you know, that they're being lied to.

00:13:48.000 But what's, I mean, the ridiculous attacks you've been under, and the things that some local papers have said, I mean, it's really sophomoric, and that's why they're losing all their subscribers.

00:13:56.000 That's why the mainstream corporate media is falling apart.

00:13:59.000 So, in a way, they're just destroying themselves.

00:14:02.000 And Alex, you're right about that, and to me, that is what is so encouraging today.

00:14:07.000 I cannot tell you the amount of email that I have gotten from people that are going, hey, we think you're right, we want to help, we want to look into this.

00:14:17.000 My wonderful, able assistant, you know, is beginning to put together You know, a whole directory of these folks so that we can keep in touch with them.

00:14:28.000 Now, I'm not saying that we don't get some pretty nasty ones.

00:14:31.000 I got one recently from some Republican, you know, that's trying to get me thrown out of the party and I'm thinking, you don't have to worry about that.

00:14:39.000 I could leave myself pretty easy.

00:14:41.000 Hey, don't worry.

00:14:42.000 The Republicans that guy likes are for open borders, total gun control, amnesty, giant taxes, tripled BATF, our name destroyed, our dollar destroyed, John McCain, a total con Oh, my gosh.

00:15:01.000 We do have a pretty good wing here in Arizona that, you know, we're staunchly behind Ron Paul, and we still are.

00:15:09.000 No, I know that, but I mean in the highest power positions.

00:15:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:13.000 I mean, of course, the party would win and take over if you were constitutionalist, but they act like wonderful people like you are bad instead of the leadership.

00:15:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:23.000 Exactly. We're nothing.

00:15:24.000 We're non-entities.

00:15:26.000 And it's pretty sad.

00:15:28.000 But the people themselves are out there, Alex.

00:15:31.000 They listen to folks like you.

00:15:32.000 They get on the internet.

00:15:34.000 They search themselves because they're truth seekers.

00:15:37.000 And that's what we have to have.

00:15:39.000 By the way, that's true.

00:15:41.000 Free Republic is one of the biggest websites in the world.

00:15:44.000 Now we're bigger than they are. 0.94

00:15:46.000 There's no one goes to them because it's literally low-grade morons saying open borders, New World Order, North American Union are good. 0.98

00:15:54.000 And so they're gone. 0.90

00:15:56.000 I mean the other big sites are shadows of what they were because they had to sell out to the neocons.

00:16:02.000 Well, we've got to keep going.

00:16:04.000 We've got to get more information out.

00:16:05.000 We have to get more, you know, converts, Alex, and that's what we're trying to do here, and I will keep speaking out no matter what.

00:16:15.000 Well, you're wonderful.

00:16:16.000 What else?

00:16:17.000 We're about to go to break.

00:16:18.000 When we come back, I want to hear from Karen Johnson about whatever is on her mind, where she thinks this country's going, if you're positive about the future or negative, and then we're going to take calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:16:28.000 We've got her for another Well, 40 minutes to be exact. 0.90

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00:21:14.000 Jesse Ventura saying the 9-11, the government was probably behind it.

00:21:18.000 Not just that it looks like an inside job.

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00:21:34.000 Talking to State Senator Karen Johnson, what do you think is most important today in our world?

00:21:38.000 What do you see happening in our future?

00:21:40.000 Are you optimistic or what?

00:21:43.000 Oh, Alex, I wish I could be more optimistic.

00:21:48.000 The more that I learn and the more that I read, I have to admit that it's pretty frustrating, but I just Thank God that we have people like yourself out there and many other great organizations that are trying to alert the people to the peril that we are in because we are losing our country.

00:22:08.000 Well, perhaps it's pretty far gone, but there are things that we can do and the more people that we wake up and that we help become alert to what's happening around them, you know, the better chance we'll have of saving our country.

00:22:25.000 What do you see happening on the horizon with the dollar plunging, our name destroyed, all three presidential candidates are the worst I've ever seen?

00:22:34.000 Oh, I couldn't agree more about that.

00:22:38.000 I, you know, I was very disappointed and yet I'm not sure if it was the American people.

00:22:43.000 When we had a candidate like Ron Paul, a really, probably the best candidate we've had in decades, that's ever, well, perhaps ever.

00:22:52.000 But, you know, He's out there.

00:22:54.000 He's expressing his thoughts and views, which are strictly and totally constitutional.

00:22:59.000 And yet, you know, he gets 8, 10, maybe 15 percent, you know, out in the voting.

00:23:06.000 But I'm not sure that the voting is being counted right.

00:23:10.000 I'm thinking that we may be past having, you know, really accurate voting, Alex.

00:23:18.000 Well, what else does the federal government not cheat in?

00:23:21.000 I mean, these voting machine companies have all been caught red-handed.

00:23:25.000 Yeah, it's pretty sad.

00:23:27.000 Last year, oh my gosh, I ran a bill here in the Arizona State Legislature.

00:23:32.000 It actually died at least nine times.

00:23:34.000 I don't know how we ever got it through, and it was an absolute miracle that our Democrat governor signed it.

00:23:40.000 And it was such a really small thing.

00:23:43.000 We simply require a 2% hand count, you know, at the end of the day on random sample precincts so that nobody knows ahead of time which ones are going to be counted.

00:23:56.000 You know, and then we get into the computer disk that's in the Dybul's and the Sequoia's.

00:24:01.000 And anyway, it was such a little thing, but wow, did we have a lot of opposition to that.

00:24:07.000 It was very difficult to even get that through.

00:24:09.000 Well, it's simple.

00:24:11.000 It's what the Founding Fathers told us.

00:24:13.000 There's a lot of money involved in government.

00:24:15.000 They always take over societies of their left of their own devices.

00:24:19.000 They're always destructive and abusive.

00:24:22.000 There are powerful, intelligent interests that want to use the mechanism of government to enslave and control.

00:24:30.000 It's not an if, it's a guarantee that that's going to happen, and it's now happened again.

00:24:35.000 Senator? Yes, no, I couldn't agree more.

00:24:39.000 One of the things that was so disturbing here in Arizona is that our governor, Democrat Janet Napolitano, signed on this last fall with, of all people, Republican Homeland Security Director Chertoff to put Arizona into this pilot program for the national ID.

00:24:59.000 Not only will that cost the state some money if, in fact, it were implemented, and we're over a $2 billion deficit.

00:25:08.000 But we did run a bill this year to opt us out of the Real ID, to say that Arizona's not going to have anything to do with it.

00:25:15.000 And I was so proud of the governor from Montana, you know, who just told Mr. Chertoff where to go, where the sun doesn't shine.

00:25:23.000 And hopefully, he will contact our governor and say, sign this bill, because it has passed both the House and the Senate.

00:25:30.000 And we're waiting to see whether or not she's going to sign it.

00:25:33.000 Well, the incredible thing is, They give all the illegals passes, they accept bank cards that the banks give them with no ID, and then they tell the public, oh, it's to stop the illegals when the government gives them a free pass. 0.68

00:25:44.000 Under the NAU, the fence is basically going to be used to keep us in, and then the illegals will just be legal to go and come as they will. 0.89

00:25:54.000 So it's, you know, they're selling it to some conservatives as something to, quote, stop illegal immigration.

00:26:00.000 They could do that overnight by prosecuting employers.

00:26:03.000 They absolutely have really deluded some of the conservatives with that particular issue, and it's been a real hard sell sometimes to turn them around.

00:26:13.000 I've been appreciative of all entities.

00:26:16.000 The ACLU has been extremely helpful in pushing this particular issue, as well as helping me with one other issue, and that was that we're not going to fingerprint our kids in school.

00:26:27.000 Oh, absolutely.

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00:33:35.000 Senator Johnson, finishing up with thumb scanning to get school lunches, thumb scanning to get your library books, training you to be a prisoner.

00:33:42.000 When did you find out about that?

00:33:44.000 How did you block that in Arizona?

00:33:46.000 Alex, thank you.

00:33:48.000 Before I address that, I just, I want to thank you for all of that great information.

00:33:52.000 Boy, do we want to see you grow and get into a bigger building. 0.99

00:33:56.000 We need you out there fighting this New World Order.

00:33:59.000 And as far as getting your supply or food storage, wow!

00:34:04.000 Everybody's got to be doing that.

00:34:05.000 So, that's great information.

00:34:07.000 Yeah, that makes you not dependent on Big Brother.

00:34:10.000 Did you see the New York Times article where it said 44% national increase in local tattletale lines?

00:34:16.000 They're tattling to get money to pay the rent or to get gas.

00:34:19.000 I did!

00:34:21.000 That's all that.

00:34:22.000 What'd you think of it?

00:34:24.000 I'm just going, holy cow, what is going on now?

00:34:27.000 It's just getting crazier and crazier.

00:34:29.000 Grandmothers turning their grandchildren in for 500 bucks for marijuana.

00:34:34.000 Meanwhile, we know who ships in the real drugs.

00:34:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:38.000 Just absolutely incredible.

00:34:41.000 Well, I mean, my point is, is that that's what they do.

00:34:43.000 They'll shut the food off and say, turn your neighbor in for guns, and you get food.

00:34:47.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.93

00:34:48.000 And people are going to be in such dire straits because they haven't planned, and they haven't prepared, and they're so ignorant that it's going to be pretty, pretty devastating. 0.55

00:34:59.000 Well, it certainly is. 0.60

00:35:01.000 So, I don't even know about that, so they don't tell us about victories.

00:35:04.000 You guys ban at the state level the thumb scanners to get their lunches?

00:35:09.000 Yes. The bill, the actual bill that I ran says that it prohibits public schools From collecting biometric information from pupils unless the schools receive written parental permission.

00:35:20.000 But we even took that out.

00:35:22.000 I mean, it just can't be done.

00:35:24.000 Well, you're really a heroine.

00:35:27.000 You're a hero.

00:35:28.000 Well, we got some good support, as I said, from the ACLU on this, so that was kind of interesting.

00:35:35.000 Well, you see, the ACLU's got, from my experience, I'd like to get your take on it, great members, and they mean well.

00:35:41.000 But at the top, they create bad case law.

00:35:44.000 At the top, they're controlled.

00:35:45.000 Just like the NRA, we've proven in their own internal documents, is a gun control group.

00:35:49.000 They always keep their friends close, their enemies closer.

00:35:52.000 And so they're there, and so yeah, I'm sure you've got a good local chapter, and they bear some good fruit, but nothing like Karen Johnson.

00:35:59.000 Everything you do is good.

00:36:00.000 Well, you know, Alex, it's funny because here we had such great support, you know, on this opting out of the Real ID and the fingerprint.

00:36:09.000 But then, let me tell you, I ran a bill this year that just about blew up the House in the Senate.

00:36:15.000 It was in regards to concealed weapons, carrying them on your universities and college campuses.

00:36:23.000 And the original bill allowed Anybody to carry on to any campuses, even, you know, grade schools and junior high and high schools.

00:36:33.000 We're talking about now adults that are valid concealed weapon carry permit holders.

00:36:39.000 We're not talking about kids carrying guns, which some people got a little mixed up about.

00:36:44.000 But this thing just blew the lid off of what was going on down here.

00:36:49.000 I mean, talk about controversy.

00:36:52.000 Yeah, you send your children to a place where it's been advertised in the national media that psychos are supposed to go, who are always on Prozac-type drugs, Prozac class.

00:37:01.000 It's advertised.

00:37:02.000 What do I do when I'm depressed and psycho and get out of some government mind-control facility? 0.71

00:37:06.000 I go up and shoot schools up, and then we send our children to a place where no one's allowed to protect them. 0.72

00:37:12.000 Exactly. You know, I've got this poster in my office that a lot of people got a kick out of, because it has a picture of a gun, you know, a handgun, with the line through it.

00:37:21.000 And it says, attention criminals, gun-free zone.

00:37:25.000 All law-abiding faculty, staff, and students of this institution have been disarmed for your convenience.

00:37:32.000 Absolutely. We're wonderful.

00:37:33.000 We should all put out posters like that and hang them everywhere.

00:37:37.000 Now look, I said people can disagree.

00:37:38.000 This guy calls about once a week.

00:37:42.000 And I'm not going to spend a long time with him.

00:37:44.000 He always says the same stuff.

00:37:46.000 It's like pulling a string on one of those dolls.

00:37:49.000 But we'll go to Justin first, then we'll go to everybody else.

00:37:51.000 Justin in Texas, you're on the air.

00:37:53.000 Hi, yes, I was just calling to disagree, of course.

00:37:55.000 And I just wanted to tell Senator Karen Johnson that maybe the reason that she's not convinced with the original story of 9-11 is because she's influenced by intellectually bankrupt movies like Loose Change.

00:38:12.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

00:38:16.000 And everything you said is disinfo and not true, and you're not going to stop us exposing the government-sponsored terror.

00:38:21.000 Let me tell you something, these debunking sites One of them goes, oh my gosh, I'm in the army.

00:38:26.000 I am having to get a chip that tracks me.

00:38:28.000 But I guess there's still kooks.

00:38:30.000 It didn't exist, but now it does.

00:38:32.000 And you're a hero to take your chip.

00:38:34.000 And that very guy you just heard, or someone claiming to be him, went and posted on there and said, oh, you're a hero.

00:38:39.000 It's good to take chips for your government.

00:38:41.000 And they'll say Northwoods isn't real.

00:38:44.000 They'll say Gulf of Tonkin wasn't staged.

00:38:47.000 It doesn't matter.

00:38:48.000 The Chicago Tribune admits, the NSA admits that U.S.S.

00:38:51.000 Liberty was attacked, to be sunk, to blame it on Egypt, that Israel did know it was an American ship.

00:38:57.000 They'll just say it's not true.

00:38:59.000 Karen, that must be pretty easy when you just deny reality.

00:39:02.000 Well, you know, Alex, my resources for my feelings on 9-11 Come from, you know, Richard Gage from Architects and Engineers for Truth.

00:39:14.000 I think their website is AE911Truth.

00:39:18.000 And they've now published, not just in their own published scientific groups, but in prestigious publications.

00:39:26.000 Peer-reviewed!

00:39:27.000 That's right! 0.98

00:39:27.000 It's over for you, terrorist! 0.98

00:39:29.000 Okay? And then, you know, I personally know Dr. Stephen Jones. 0.61

00:39:34.000 I've been to three different conferences where we've been able to sit and discuss a lot of this.

00:39:39.000 And then David Ray Griffin was here not too long ago in Phoenix and I had the privilege of listening to him and getting some of his information.

00:39:47.000 I think these people are pretty doggone credible people.

00:39:50.000 They are.

00:39:50.000 Let's talk to, who's up next here?

00:39:54.000 Maury in Arizona, you're on the air with Senator Karen Johnson.

00:39:58.000 Karen Johnson for governor, yay! 0.99

00:40:02.000 Senator, I wanted to ask you, do you support submission to federal jurisdiction and destruction of the state sovereignty for Arizona?

00:40:12.000 I support states' rights.

00:40:14.000 Yeah, she introduced a bill in, what, 99 when Clinton was getting ready for martial law for the state to secede if they confiscated guns or declared a new world order. 0.98

00:40:23.000 Why don't you tell them about that?

00:40:25.000 I'm talking about the English Language Learning Act.

00:40:29.000 Federal Judge Collins, I called him up and asked him why he issued an illegal order, and he said because the state of Arizona in the year 2000 submitted to federal jurisdiction and surrendered the state sovereignty, and it was Governor Janet Napolitano Let me just say this.

00:40:49.000 That's what Homeland Security is.

00:40:50.000 They're federalizing schools.

00:40:52.000 They're federalizing firemen, giving them guns, having them spy on you, ruining our wonderful firemen. 0.99

00:40:57.000 I mean, it's just a disease of federal scum. 0.99

00:41:00.000 Senator? Well, I can tell you that it's been extremely frustrating and disturbing to me that our legislators here in Arizona, many of them, including our leadership, have acquiesced to And 0.98

00:41:31.000 And that's because they want to move up the crime syndicate ladder to the international and federal level.

00:41:35.000 I think you're right.

00:41:36.000 And, well, please elaborate then if you'd like to elaborate on that, if you agree, Senator.

00:41:40.000 But the bigger problem here...

00:41:42.000 Is it the Feds take a dollar of our money on average and give us 33 cents back on average? 1.00

00:41:47.000 These idiots think that it's free money, Senator. 0.99

00:41:51.000 We've been trying to get our state to hold on to all of our transportation taxes here because we're one of those donor states and we've said, hey, look, let's hold all of our transportation taxes. 1.00

00:42:05.000 Let's spend the money on what we need to spend on if there's anything left.

00:42:08.000 Then maybe we'll send it on to the federal government.

00:42:10.000 If not, we need to do what we need to do here with it.

00:42:15.000 Yes, why give them money to hire more shaved head guys with devil tats all over them to be BATF officers while they drive around in bright yellow Corvettes and live in million-dollar houses dealing narcotics?

00:42:29.000 Okay, thank you so much, Mari.

00:42:31.000 Arthur and Mash, you're on the air with Senator Karen Johnson.

00:42:34.000 Hello? Yes, sir.

00:42:36.000 Oh, is this Alex?

00:42:38.000 Yes, sir.

00:42:38.000 You're on the air.

00:42:39.000 Thank you, sir.

00:42:39.000 I've been a longtime friend, listener of yours since the beginning.

00:42:42.000 We are friends.

00:42:43.000 We're all a family.

00:42:44.000 And I have all your videos, and I wanted to let you and the Senator know, she mentioned meetups.

00:42:49.000 I've been a member of a meetup that meets in Cambridge on Sundays, and it's kind of a strange name.

00:42:55.000 They call it the Conspiracy Cafe, but it basically deals with 9-11 truth, the truth about everything, you know, not just 9-11.

00:43:04.000 And You know, I'm very, very tired.

00:43:07.000 I woke up during the 60s when I was in Vietnam.

00:43:10.000 That's when I became aware of what the world's really about.

00:43:14.000 I looked behind the curtain.

00:43:16.000 And what's frustrating is 99 out of 100 people I talk to, you try to reason with them about 9-11, the New World Order, the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds. 0.84

00:43:30.000 People look at me like I belong in a mental institution, and they'll say that's all urban folklore.

00:43:36.000 Oh, yeah, they say Bilderberg doesn't exist, CFR doesn't exist.

00:43:40.000 Like I mentioned...

00:43:41.000 But that's what, listen, Bilderberg's having its meeting in the U.S. I heard that on your show yesterday.

00:43:47.000 They used to normally have it in Europe, and they're doing it because we have a more blacked-out media, and we have police that'll go after citizens.

00:43:54.000 Senator Johnson comments?

00:43:56.000 Well, they need to have a subscription to American Free Press.

00:44:01.000 I mean, my gosh, they expose...

00:44:03.000 You know, Michael Collins Piper writes about the Bilderbergers all the time.

00:44:07.000 I mean, he does great work.

00:44:09.000 You do great work.

00:44:10.000 There is information all over that is extremely accurate and documented about this group.

00:44:15.000 Absolutely. Anything else, Arthur?

00:44:18.000 You know, it's like the NAU, the Amero. 0.71

00:44:22.000 Everyone I talk to, they say, where are you getting your information?

00:44:24.000 I point them.

00:44:25.000 You know, to the web, or I brought up the topic of eugenics.

00:44:31.000 That's make-believe, it's not real. 0.86

00:44:32.000 And then, when I point them somewhere on the web, they'll say, well, the web's all make-believe, and it's run by wackos. 1.00

00:44:38.000 And if you point them at U.S. Government documents, Library of Congress, they say, that doesn't exist.

00:44:41.000 Actually, I've sent some of them to the PNAC site.

00:44:44.000 If you want to hear it from the horse's rear end, you know, go to PNAC.

00:44:47.000 Well, how do we know that's not a real thing?

00:44:49.000 Well, look, they're living in denial, and they're going to...

00:44:52.000 I mean, look, I appreciate your call.

00:44:53.000 I've got people telling me the dollar hasn't been devalued, and I'm a liar, and then they go on the message boards and say I'm Al-Qaeda, trying to lie to them.

00:45:01.000 The government's all, I'm not kidding, they say that I'm working for Al-Qaeda.

00:45:04.000 The White House has said the 9-11 truth works for Ahmadinejad, Senator.

00:45:09.000 Oh, Alex, you know what I do in answer to this gentleman?

00:45:13.000 When I start talking to people, if they I think I'm out, whacked out, and kooky.

00:45:18.000 I move on.

00:45:19.000 I find people that are open and respectful.

00:45:21.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:45:22.000 I mean, the type of people that don't know we're in big trouble.

00:45:25.000 I mean, if anybody can't smell the stench of corruption, there's some...

00:45:30.000 Senator, go ahead and make your point.

00:45:31.000 I'm sorry.

00:45:32.000 No, no, no.

00:45:33.000 You made the point.

00:45:34.000 And going back to the issue of states' rights here, we've got another issue.

00:45:40.000 Oh my gosh, Alex, this is one that has just been huge here in Arizona.

00:45:45.000 We have the federal government coming in to our federal parks here, if you would, and forests, like the Tonto National Forest, the Fitgraves National Forest that we have up north, and we have the Saguaro National Monument, other areas.

00:46:00.000 And they're closing down the roads.

00:46:02.000 They are preventing the public from coming in and using these areas.

00:46:06.000 I mean, they don't want a human footprint back in a lot of these areas.

00:46:10.000 And these lands belong to us.

00:46:12.000 They belong to the people here in the state of Arizona and the people of the United States.

00:46:17.000 And we have run a bill to say, stop.

00:46:20.000 You are not going to do that anymore in Arizona.

00:46:22.000 We're opening these roads up and they're going to stay so people can get back in there for camping, for hiking.

00:46:28.000 They can take their ATVs.

00:46:30.000 They can do what they want back in there, you know, without destroying the environment.

00:46:34.000 But we've got to do this.

00:46:36.000 And for the federal government to come in and just arbitrarily start closing down these roads and locking us out. 0.97

00:46:43.000 It's all about power, all about control, absolute trash. 0.96

00:46:46.000 Chris in Florida, you're on the air, go ahead. 0.99

00:46:49.000 Hi, Alex.

00:46:50.000 I just wanted to applaud the Senator for coming forward and being so open-minded.

00:46:56.000 The second thing, I wanted to ask two things.

00:46:58.000 One, are there other American legislators that are Control!

00:47:26.000 Control! A few final callers, but I want to get your take on why they did it.

00:47:35.000 No-bid contracts, hundreds of billions a year in no-bid contracts.

00:47:38.000 Grabbing land, grabbing oil, domestic police state.

00:47:41.000 They did it for Israel, they did it for a lot of things.

00:47:46.000 It is a big idea.

00:47:49.000 A new world order.

00:47:51.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

00:47:56.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

00:47:59.000 Could their objective be world domination?

00:48:01.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

00:48:05.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.93

00:48:15.000 For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.

00:48:20.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

00:48:24.000 The Oval Party is making great progress toward a world government.

00:48:27.000 Most people have no idea.

00:48:28.000 They're not after money.

00:48:29.000 They have all the money they need.

00:48:30.000 They're after power.

00:48:31.000 That's what they're after these years.

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00:48:46.000 Wake up, Protestant America! 1.00

00:48:47.000 There is an ecumenical movement now being planned to join church and state.

00:48:51.000 This confederation of evangelicals, Catholics, and Protestant denominations will form one huge political voting bloc.

00:48:57.000 Their agenda is enforcement of religious worship and morality by legislation.

00:49:01.000 Our forefathers wrote the Bill of Rights to guarantee all Americans this freedom, liberty of conscience.

00:49:06.000 History and the Bible prove to them that these two systems, church and state, must be kept separate. 0.63

00:49:11.000 It must be our love of God and of country that prompts or constrains us.

00:49:14.000 This will change the character, not civil enforcement.

00:49:17.000 From history, we saw that when Church and State United, known as Papal Rome, religious intolerance resulted.

00:49:22.000 This union would go directly contrary to the great principles of our nation.

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00:50:52.000 All right, we're going to end the transmission in about five minutes.

00:50:55.000 A bunch of big guests today.

00:50:56.000 A lot of key info was covered.

00:50:58.000 Be sure and listen to the retransmission on the web.

00:51:01.000 It starts in just a few minutes at infowars.com.

00:51:07.000 I'm begging you listeners to go to Infowars.com where the top three stories about Jesse Ventura saying they blew up the towers for an insurance scam.

00:51:16.000 He thinks the government did it.

00:51:17.000 He's gone even further.

00:51:18.000 His interview here yesterday.

00:51:20.000 This is big news and this will not punch out in the Associated Press and then hundreds of papers and they get everybody talking around the water coolers.

00:51:27.000 It just grows every minute.

00:51:29.000 We need to use this now.

00:51:31.000 Get this out now.

00:51:35.000 Infowars.com, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:51:38.000 PrisonPlanet.com.

00:51:39.000 Get the articles.

00:51:41.000 Post them on every message board.

00:51:42.000 Send them to the Neocon talk show host.

00:51:43.000 They'll take the bait and attack Jesse.

00:51:45.000 People will find out about it.

00:51:47.000 Send these articles to your whole, you know, email list.

00:51:50.000 We need your help.

00:51:51.000 Senator Johnson, what's your take on, you know, using the celebrity-obsessed culture, plus he's a former governor, now that he's really gone public on this show yesterday, on Stern today, to really get this out?

00:52:02.000 Do you think that's important?

00:52:03.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:52:05.000 Absolutely, Alex.

00:52:06.000 You know, you kind of ask why, you know, why these things happened, and I guess that's one of the big questions and why we want to see an investigation, because, you know, we need to know who benefited.

00:52:19.000 That's what I'm looking at.

00:52:20.000 If you follow the money, we've spent over $3 trillion now on a war in Iraq that had nothing to do with 9-11.

00:52:28.000 That a handful of groups get.

00:52:30.000 Right, right.

00:52:31.000 Oh my gosh, a handful of corporations like Blackwater and Halliburton and Brown and Root and on and on.

00:52:38.000 And then you've got, we've got the Patriot Act, we've got Homeland Security, we've got now the Real ID, we lost our habeas corpus, you know, we've got illegal wiretapping.

00:52:50.000 These are all things that I don't think could have been pushed on the American people without 9-11.

00:52:56.000 I agree, and now the crooks know that we're on to them, so they already have their police state set up in case we try to remove them.

00:53:02.000 They've got their electronic voting machines going in.

00:53:04.000 A perfect storm of evil, but the people are waking up like never before, and the globalists themselves say they're scared.

00:53:11.000 So now is the time for courage to speak up, not to cower.

00:53:14.000 Some people are on the air saying, be quiet, don't tell anyone you're against the new world order, they'll get you.

00:53:18.000 No, if we cower, then they win.

00:53:20.000 Senator, comments on that?

00:53:22.000 Well, you're absolutely right and I, oh, Alex, I appreciate you so much and what you are doing and have been doing for a long time now and for others that are willing to stand up and to speak out.

00:53:35.000 I mean, we've got to do it!

00:53:37.000 Well, you were awake a long time before I was, but you said that one of the reasons you passed that law against the whole New World Order deal in your state, or tried to, about getting the UN out, was because you saw some of my films, and you know, then you help wake up other people, I wake up people, you woke up folks that probably woke me up.

00:53:52.000 I mean, it's all symbiotic, and we're together on this, so I don't want any of the listeners to think that their talking to their neighbors and friends doesn't have an effect.

00:54:02.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:54:03.000 Absolutely. We are setting up little groups and it's just like here in Arizona, you know, we have these meet-up groups.

00:54:10.000 And, you know, and if people want to help with this 9-11 issue, they can donate money to this cause if they can't get out and participate more, you know, on a personal level.

00:54:19.000 And I want to be clear, folks.

00:54:20.000 If we don't expose government-sponsored terror and turn it back now, they're going all the way.

00:54:24.000 This isn't just going to be some banana republic tyranny.

00:54:27.000 This is a scientific one.

00:54:28.000 These are very cold-blooded people.

00:54:30.000 Senator Johnson, I want to thank you for all the time you spent with us.

00:54:34.000 Do you want to fire out your senatorial website?

00:54:37.000 Uh, gee, I don't even know what it is.

00:54:40.000 Ha ha, you just typed Taryn Johnson into Google.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, the website is just A-Z-L-E-G dot gov. 1.00

00:54:47.000 Anything else you want to plug?

00:54:49.000 Uh, no, just I want people to get involved.

00:54:52.000 And I want them to belong to these meet-up groups.

00:54:55.000 And, you know, go in to, uh, send some money to...

00:54:59.000 The architects and engineers at 911truth.com.

00:55:03.000 I mean, they need money to continue the push to get an independent investigation.

00:55:08.000 Absolutely. Our lives depend on it.

00:55:10.000 Take care, Senator.

00:55:12.000 Thank you.

00:55:14.000 Folks, we're out of time.

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