Alex Jones Show - 20080527_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire... Big Brother.

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00:00:12.000 You want answers?

00:00:14.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Well, he's been... you Part of, and the star of, top network TV shows since the mid-1990s.

00:00:45.000 News radio, Fear Factor.

00:00:47.000 He is the host of Ultimate Fighting Championships, which is now the biggest craze in sports globally, and he's been involved in that for more than a decade.

00:00:57.000 He's a brown belt in jiu-jitsu, trained by some of the best fighters in the world.

00:01:03.000 He, of course, hosted the Man Show on Comedy Central.

00:01:06.000 He's a very successful comedian, you know, traveling the world on huge tours, which millions of people have come out and seen.

00:01:14.000 And I was lucky enough to get to know Joe and become friends with him, I guess about ten years ago, because he would come to Austin for shows and he was friends with Kevin Booth, the producer for Bill Hicks.

00:01:24.000 And by the way, it is true.

00:01:25.000 A Bill Hicks movie is coming out.

00:01:26.000 I have the inside scoop on that.

00:01:28.000 Maybe we'll talk about that later.

00:01:29.000 I don't know how much I can say.

00:01:32.000 But Russell Crowe is involved.

00:01:33.000 I'm just going to leave it at that.

00:01:34.000 And that'll be out in the next year and a half.

00:01:35.000 There, I've said it.

00:01:36.000 But Joe Rogan is our guest for the next hour and maybe then some, if I can twist his arm to stay with us.

00:01:42.000 We have Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor of Charles Manson, he's saying Bush is a murderer, needs to be arrested immediately.

00:01:51.000 Vincent Bugliosi is very respected.

00:01:53.000 So maybe we'll have Joe ride shotgun if he wants with Mr. Bugliosi, but that's up to Joe.

00:01:58.000 We'll talk about it all today.

00:01:59.000 9-11, the war, electronic voting frauds, did the moon landing really happen?

00:02:04.000 We'll also talk about some other subjects that Joe discusses.

00:02:08.000 He's an amazing individual and he is Joe Rogan.

00:02:12.000 Joe, thanks for coming on with me.

00:02:13.000 Thanks for having me on, buddy.

00:02:15.000 What's going on?

00:02:16.000 Good, man.

00:02:16.000 I tell you, life just accelerates by.

00:02:19.000 We used to talk all the time and see a couple times a year out in L.A.

00:02:23.000 We blinked and a few years went by and I'm glad that you're on the show.

00:02:29.000 Well, I'm glad I'm on the show, too, and yeah, I've known you for a long time now.

00:02:32.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:02:33.000 It's been like eight or nine years at least, right?

00:02:35.000 Yeah, time just flies, Joe.

00:02:36.000 In fact, I got three kids now, and you just had a daughter.

00:02:40.000 Yeah, I just had a little... well, I didn't have it.

00:02:43.000 My girlfriend had it.

00:02:45.000 But yeah, it's crazy, man.

00:02:47.000 Congratulations.

00:02:48.000 Thank you.

00:02:49.000 Very humbling experience, to say the least.

00:02:52.000 You know, I think having children, I know it turns on different areas of the brain.

00:02:57.000 Did you totally, like, feel other areas switch on?

00:03:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:01.000 It's definitely, there's a biological process that goes on, like, almost instantaneously.

00:03:07.000 You start thinking about, you know, you become much more like of a homebody, you start thinking much more rationally, you start thinking like, wow, I gotta really, you know, get my insurance in order and get all my, you know, my money in place.

00:03:21.000 I start thinking much more business-wise, I become much more ambitious, almost instantaneously.

00:03:27.000 Exactly, that's what happened to me.

00:03:28.000 I used to let people push me around and stuff because I was kind of a nice guy.

00:03:32.000 I kind of turned into a meanie.

00:03:33.000 People push you around? 0.99

00:03:34.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

00:03:34.000 Well, I got a lot meaner after I had kids, is the point. 0.97

00:03:37.000 Really?

00:03:37.000 Yeah.

00:03:38.000 Well, I think it definitely makes a person more serious.

00:03:43.000 I've had friends that had kids and they would describe it.

00:03:47.000 I never really got it.

00:03:48.000 I'm like, okay, so what happens?

00:03:50.000 You're working more now and that's good?

00:03:53.000 What's it all about?

00:03:54.000 But once you have one, you go, oh, it's like a biological thing.

00:03:59.000 It's like your body is preparing you for the fact that you've got to take on this little responsibility, this little person to protect it.

00:04:07.000 So you become more aware of protecting the nest and more aware of gathering up supplies.

00:04:13.000 It's really weird.

00:04:15.000 No man, with our first child, you should have seen me and my wife.

00:04:18.000 It was like birds building a nest, running around and doing this and getting everything just right.

00:04:23.000 It's a strange thing to realize it's just an animal, isn't it?

00:04:26.000 It's no different than a monkey, no different than a dog, just a different kind of animal.

00:04:33.000 Well, we certainly are programmed, and we certainly have templates we follow.

00:04:36.000 In fact, I want to talk about that today.

00:04:38.000 You've got an interesting view on humanity and everything else, and I want to get your take on your views on that now.

00:04:46.000 On the other side, with Joe Rogan.

00:04:48.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:04:48.000 This is the one, the only GCN Radio Network.

00:04:51.000 His website is JoeRogan.net.

00:04:54.000 Got links up to it on Infowars.com right now.

00:04:57.000 Our beloved republic is on her knees.

00:05:05.000 The forces of globalism are destroying national sovereignty worldwide.

00:05:09.000 Let me talk to Joe.

00:05:10.000 On humanity and everything else, and I want to get your take on your views on that now.

00:05:18.000 On the other side with Joe Rogan.

00:05:20.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:05:21.000 This is the one, the only GCN Radio Network.

00:05:23.000 His website is joerogan.net.

00:05:26.000 That link's up to it on Infowars.com right now. Infowars.com right now.

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00:08:04.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:11.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:18.000 He's Joe Rogan, ladies and gentlemen, and he's agreed to ride shotgun with Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor of the Manson family and best-selling author.

00:08:29.000 He's got a new book out about how Bush is a murderer and needs to be arrested immediately.

00:08:34.000 A very respected prosecutor and expert on criminology.

00:08:37.000 So, Joe Rogan will be riding shotgun with us for that hour.

00:08:40.000 Coming up next hour, that is going to be amazing.

00:08:42.000 Joe Rogan and Vincent Bugliosi on together.

00:08:45.000 But he'll be with us, just Joe alone, for this hour.

00:08:49.000 Joe, I want to talk about your comedy.

00:08:51.000 Well, we can't talk about your new TV show that's coming out yet.

00:08:53.000 You can't talk about that yet.

00:08:55.000 I want to talk about DMT.

00:08:56.000 I want to talk about government-sponsored terror.

00:08:58.000 I want to get into moon landings.

00:09:00.000 I want to get into your world view, because I was Googling your name last night.

00:09:03.000 Ended up spending about two hours watching different clips of you and your internet reality show you do that's amazing.

00:09:09.000 Ought to be on mainstream TV.

00:09:10.000 But I guess it's too hardcore.

00:09:13.000 Where you did this rant on another radio show about flying over cities and how cities look like cancers.

00:09:20.000 And then you were talking about taking DMT and how there's this other reality while we're sleeping.

00:09:26.000 And it was all just an amazing rant you were doing, but I thought, why play somebody else's show?

00:09:32.000 Why not just have Joe talk about that, but add, because this rant was about a year ago, you've now had a child, you say you, which, which, which, which, I think what you just said about having a child fits into what you said previously.

00:09:44.000 Does having a child confirm your view about how we are really a, kind of like a jellyfish, we are a group organism, but we individually, I don't think, realize that.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, I think for sure.

00:09:57.000 The way I compare it is to mold.

00:09:59.000 When you see mold, you don't see individual spores of mold.

00:10:03.000 You see a patch.

00:10:05.000 And that's really what human beings are.

00:10:08.000 We think of ourselves as individuals, but we need all the other people around us constantly.

00:10:13.000 If you're in jail, the worst punishment they can give you is put you in solitary confinement.

00:10:19.000 Take you away from other prisoners.

00:10:21.000 I mean, how crazy is that?

00:10:22.000 I mean, if that doesn't just show you that there's some sort of a biological need to stay in contact with other people, because we are a group organism, it's an illusion that we're not.

00:10:34.000 And if you look at the way this group organism is devouring the planet, killing off all the other organisms, It's just like an out-of-control bacteria or a virus or, you know, or just a parasite.

00:10:49.000 Any kind of other animal that could overtake, you know, like when some, you know, crazy roach gets into a community and gets in everyone's houses and they can't get rid of them, they can't exterminate them.

00:10:58.000 I mean, that's really what humans are like.

00:11:00.000 We're like any other organism.

00:11:01.000 We're just conscious, and we communicate, and we like to depict ourselves in unnatural ways, and we get confused, and we start to think that that depiction is the reality. 0.69

00:11:14.000 But the reality, when you look at what humans are doing to the world, what we're doing to each other, we're just a really complicated, screwed-up animal.

00:11:24.000 Now, I don't want to get out of the gates and get into a debate with you, because I agree with some of what you're saying and don't with others.

00:11:30.000 I mean, that thousand plus square mile thing of plastic trash floating around in the Pacific Ocean right now, that is a problem.

00:11:38.000 Genetic engineering, these cross-species organisms that have been put out are already wreaking havoc. 0.99

00:11:45.000 GMO food that we produced, you know, that literally kills all the rats they feed it to, we're eating that, it's causing all these health problems.

00:11:52.000 But we can certainly be a cancer, or we can be something that terraforms other planets, and I see our real potential as a life spreader, a life seeder.

00:12:03.000 So I think like with everything in the world, it's a double-edged sword.

00:12:06.000 And you think our potential is to seed Yes, and to terraform.

00:12:14.000 We're going to go in, no doubt if we don't destroy ourselves with these superconducting heavy reactors and the antimatter weapons the Air Force admits they have but won't declassify the details on.

00:12:25.000 If we don't destroy ourselves, yes, we're going to spread life.

00:12:29.000 And so, will we consume the yolk, you know, like a chicken embryo that's our planet?

00:12:36.000 Yes, but when we get to our true potential, we're going to be able to create thousands of worlds.

00:12:40.000 Well, our real problem is that everything we do to this world, everything we do, like with our materialism and the way we live our lives, the gas that we use and everything, it's damaging the Earth, but I don't think we feel it, personally.

00:12:57.000 You know, and I think that's a big problem with human beings.

00:13:00.000 Well, Joe, we do feel it when we get cancer from the dioxins that get in the water and the air, and we do feel it when our three-year-old dies of leukemia because they took the vaccines.

00:13:09.000 No, listen, I'm 100% with you.

00:13:09.000 Oh, of course.

00:13:12.000 What I'm saying is that the only way we're going to ever get people to live a sustainable life is to make it feel good for them.

00:13:23.000 Like there's gotta be something in it for them.

00:13:26.000 People do things based on feeling.

00:13:28.000 You know, when people are working all day and they come home and they got kids and they got bills, it's very difficult to get them to try to reorganize the culture.

00:13:38.000 I mean, completely rework society to the point where we don't have a voting system in place like we do now that makes no sense with electoral college and votes and delegates and what are you talking about?

00:13:50.000 And all this nonsense, this two-party nonsense.

00:13:54.000 Like, it's going to take a lot of work to get rid of all this BS that we have that's clogging up the pores of this culture.

00:14:01.000 And this is the most, supposedly, at least we like to consider ourselves, the most advanced culture in the world.

00:14:07.000 And it's childlike!

00:14:09.000 I mean, that's the most amazing aspect about life, is that there are grown children and they're operating the world like it's a Harry Potter movie.

00:14:21.000 Well, Joe, that's what happens.

00:14:22.000 Humans, when they're stressed and pushed to the edge of endurance, do incredible, magical, dynamic things.

00:14:32.000 But when we have milk and honey, when we have it too good, we do become lazy, we do become decadent, we do become slothful.

00:14:40.000 But the establishment, the social engineers, if you read their own documents, they have fostered and pushed our already weak instincts.

00:14:47.000 They didn't create it, but they know how to punch our buttons.

00:14:50.000 Kind of like the devil says in that film with Al Pacino, Devil's Advocate, he says, I know every button, every thing to push, every lever to pull.

00:14:59.000 That's what Madison Avenue knows.

00:15:00.000 And so they openly in their own documents, and I can give these to you if you want, you might have already seen them, say a hundred years ago they were going to push and control and make us dumb, make us decadent, feed into that feedback loop to get the general public satiated bread in the circus like the Roman Caesars did so the elite can go on above us and build their real technological system while we're diverted kind of in this suppressed level and they sell us on things that sound good like you do fly over LA and it doesn't look like a cancer on the landscape belching black smoke

00:15:29.000 if you were an alien flying over you'd say that looks like some type of cancer disease you know it's I don't know it's The whole conversation is very... It's like, what came first, the chicken or the egg?

00:15:43.000 Have people always been lazy, or is somebody making people lazy?

00:15:47.000 You know, I think both.

00:15:48.000 And I think, you know, if there's going to be real leaders in this world, you know, if there's going to be a real leader, it's not going to be a leader that's coming from this system that we have right now.

00:15:57.000 Because this system is a mess.

00:15:59.000 Like, you need someone who's not trying to make any money.

00:16:03.000 You need someone who's actually trying to help people.

00:16:06.000 And that's very difficult to find.

00:16:08.000 Well, Joe, the problem is, going back to the original point, is everybody wants to take care of their environment at an instinctive level.

00:16:14.000 Doesn't mean we do.

00:16:15.000 And a lot of this sounds reasonable.

00:16:17.000 Exactly.

00:16:18.000 We don't feel it, like you said, consciously, though it is affecting us.

00:16:21.000 The problem is the elites are going to use this to totally enslave us and do a lot of bad things, and I indict those elites and say, you know, your end doesn't justify your means, and you're doing more damage to the earth than the fake carbon taxes you're pushing, when carbon is what plants breathe.

00:16:38.000 Well, you know what I say, Alex?

00:16:38.000 Right.

00:16:39.000 Those elites are just people.

00:16:41.000 This is the whole thing about this whole idea of elites and the impoverished and the, you know, the proletariat.

00:16:47.000 You know, what people are is just people.

00:16:49.000 And these people, if they truly are manipulating world populations into wars and ruining lives and doing it all for profit and that they don't care, they can't be happy.

00:17:03.000 Those guys aren't having any fun.

00:17:05.000 Those elite dudes, they could use the advice that someone would give them if someone told them to just relax and have fun and stop being a douche.

00:17:14.000 The problem is, it's not just about making money.

00:17:16.000 It's about the power.

00:17:18.000 And they're in such power positions, they've got a... Materialism.

00:17:21.000 It's about possessing things. 0.99

00:17:22.000 Well, they're also psychopaths.

00:17:24.000 I mean, see, you're not a psychopath, Joe.

00:17:25.000 You care about your surroundings, because at an instinctive level, your genetic engineering is correct, and so you realize what happens to others affects you.

00:17:33.000 You feel it and feel bad, but you're designed like that because hurting your tribe hurts you.

00:17:38.000 There are jobs and positions in this world where it pays to be a psychopath.

00:17:45.000 You know, and if you're going to be a politician, that's, you know, it really does pay you to be at least a little detached from the things that you're going to do.

00:17:52.000 Exactly.

00:17:53.000 I mean, if you really are planning, I mean, and I'm not saying that this is how it went down, but this is a big speculate.

00:17:59.000 This is one thing that people speculate about all the time, that was this war created for profit?

00:18:05.000 And if this war was created for profit, some people had to make that decision that it is worth X amount of lives for X amount of dollars.

00:18:12.000 I mean, that is crazy!

00:18:14.000 If that's a real decision that someone's making...

00:18:17.000 Well, Joe, you're right, but they issue the currency.

00:18:20.000 It's not just about making profits, it's about consolidating land, getting raw resources that they then peg to their fiat currencies.

00:18:29.000 But, I mean, we have PNAC government documents where they admitted it was about oil and power and no-bid weapons contracts.

00:18:36.000 I mean, the military... Well, if that's the case, it certainly pays to be a psychopath in that job, right?

00:18:41.000 Absolutely.

00:18:42.000 How do you fix a psychopath?

00:18:43.000 That's the real problem.

00:18:45.000 I mean, with a normal person that's trying to be ambitious and maybe cutting corners and doing the wrong thing, you can explain to that person karma.

00:18:54.000 You can explain to that person that we are really just the same.

00:18:57.000 We're just living lives through different circumstances.

00:19:01.000 You can explain that to a book.

00:19:02.000 Can you explain that to a psychopath?

00:19:05.000 Is it even possible?

00:19:08.000 And you raise them in that, you know, that environment, that ruthless, you know, future politician environment.

00:19:15.000 I mean, can you fix that?

00:19:17.000 Well, that's a good point you just made.

00:19:18.000 That's central.

00:19:21.000 This system is raising kind of a psychopath light.

00:19:24.000 Oh yeah, there's a reason why all this skull and bone stuff. 0.97

00:19:27.000 Everybody's like, that's silly.

00:19:28.000 What are their little clubs that they join?

00:19:30.000 There's a reason why that's real.

00:19:32.000 But what we don't understand is there is an entire culture, like an ancient culture, in this country.

00:19:39.000 Wow.

00:19:40.000 It's been around for a long time.

00:19:41.000 Society.

00:19:42.000 People who are raising their children to be in power.

00:19:45.000 And there's families... Huge.

00:19:46.000 ...that have been in power forever.

00:19:48.000 And the fact that people want to call that a conspiracy theory, or, like, what, how much evidence do you have to see before you want to look into it?

00:19:57.000 Let's come right back after this quick break and talk specifically about that.

00:19:57.000 Joe, stay there.

00:20:00.000 That's an amazing point.

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00:20:14.000 People who are raising their children to be in power.

00:20:17.000 And there's families that have been in power forever.

00:20:20.000 And the fact that people want to call that a conspiracy theory, or like, what, how much evidence do you have to see before you want to look into it?

00:20:29.000 Joe, stay there.

00:20:30.000 Let's come right back after this quick break and talk specifically about that.

00:20:32.000 That's an amazing point.

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00:24:32.000 Joe Rogan.

00:24:35.000 Got a new show coming out on CBS in the near future.

00:24:38.000 Can't talk about it.

00:24:39.000 Been a central figure.

00:24:44.000 The host of, of course, Fear Factor and then NewsRadio before that.

00:24:48.000 So many other hats.

00:24:50.000 The host of the commentator for Ultimate Fighting Championships.

00:24:55.000 Just did a big one this Saturday that I know most of my office went to.

00:25:00.000 Got a new addition to the family, so I couldn't go.

00:25:02.000 Wish I could have.

00:25:04.000 But Joe Rogan joins us.

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00:25:10.000 Joe, flesh that out, because that's a point I've made before, but rarely do, and it's so central how you have lots of even low-level, petty elites that think they're members of the elite.

00:25:19.000 They're trained to hate the general public, that the public's to be fed on, and when you get to skull and bones level and royalty level, It's even admitted in mainstream books that they train them to be cold-blooded and enslave the public and to have this us-against-them mentality and they're really, they're breeding almost a psychopathic view into them and that's what the mock sacrifices are about and the devil worship is about.

00:25:43.000 It's how an old guy sends his son to have his peers induct him into a predator's mindset.

00:25:51.000 Your take on that, Joe? 0.97

00:25:52.000 Well, I mean, I think if you are the type of person that wants to be, you know, an elite, if you're the type of person that really wants to, you know, to run things in this world and manipulate people and make money, I mean, you have to be a psycho. 0.98

00:26:06.000 And your kids are going to be psychos, too, because you're going to raise your kids. 0.62

00:26:10.000 If you keep them in that environment and you have your kids grow up and seek political offices and seek influential positions in society and in business, you're going to develop psycho kids, for sure.

00:26:21.000 Those kids are going to want to be like daddy, ruthless daddy who raised them and taught them how to do it.

00:26:27.000 And they stay together.

00:26:28.000 And these groups and these families that have been around, they've been around for hundreds of years doing this.

00:26:36.000 I mean, it's not like it's hard to follow.

00:26:38.000 You can see the bloodlines.

00:26:40.000 You can see, like, all the memberships in these little weird skull and bones things, and the fact that they all go to similar schools, and, you know, they're in similar clubs, and, like, you know, it's kind of crazy.

00:26:53.000 In fact, the eugenicists over a hundred and fifty years ago, and now this has been in the BBC and all the news, they believe, there was just a big report out of a British university last week, that the elites are their own species because they've been intermarrying for, quote, aggression, intelligence.

00:27:10.000 They already believe they're another species and see, Joe, they're going to use the environmental movement.

00:27:14.000 I need to send you my new film, Endgame.

00:27:16.000 Wow, that's a really interesting theory, like, sort of like It's sort of like a different breed, like different breeds of dogs.

00:27:23.000 That's what they say.

00:27:24.000 They say that by like being with like, they say through social Darwinism, the fact that they are in control gives them a right to kill, destroy, poison us, because it's the survival of the fittest, and now they're going to use the environmental movement, which sounds reasonable, to set up a world government, and then have the orderly bioweapon release and kill 80-90% of us.

00:27:47.000 You know, that's a really interesting thought.

00:27:49.000 The thought that they're a separate species now, or at least a separate race.

00:27:53.000 You know, because I've had a lot of dogs.

00:27:55.000 I love dogs.

00:27:56.000 And I've had pit bulls.

00:27:59.000 And they're great dogs with people.

00:28:02.000 But man, they're so dangerous with other animals.

00:28:06.000 They're like, I had one dog, she killed two of my other dogs.

00:28:11.000 She would fight to the death.

00:28:13.000 She just wanted to fight. 0.98

00:28:14.000 She was crazy. 0.79

00:28:15.000 No matter what it was. 0.54

00:28:16.000 If you pissed her off, you did something wrong, she wanted to fight.

00:28:19.000 And I've had her since she was a baby.

00:28:21.000 I rescued her when she was like 11 months old from the dog pound.

00:28:24.000 That dog is bred for that.

00:28:26.000 That's in her system.

00:28:28.000 And the way they made pit bulls is by breeding them for like a thousand years.

00:28:32.000 I mean, who knows how long they've been doing it.

00:28:34.000 But for hundreds of years at least.

00:28:36.000 The most aggressive dogs.

00:28:37.000 And they bred a terrier with a larger bulldog, and they got this dog that was a medium-sized, psychotic animal.

00:28:46.000 And then once they got the breed, what they did was they made sure that they only kept alive and breeding the ones that would fight to the death.

00:28:54.000 Any dog that would quit, they would kill him, and they wouldn't let him breed.

00:28:58.000 They would cull him from the breed.

00:29:00.000 So the ones that they got out of that are this pure genetic specimen of just a destroyer.

00:29:06.000 That's it!

00:29:07.000 And that's the New World Order, brother!

00:29:08.000 And they're in control of the bioweapons, they brainwashed the police, and they... No, no, they openly say they're gonna kill us. 0.61

00:29:15.000 Even though people, like, will frown on conspiracy theories and say, this is ridiculous, you're making a lot of speculation, and you're coming to conclusions that aren't necessarily bound by logic, if you really looked at it that way, just genetically, it is really possible that there are a group of people that are just genetically more inclined to be douchey.

00:29:36.000 Genetically more inclined to want to be an elite. 0.86

00:29:39.000 Genetically more inclined to want to subjugate the population and ruin people's lives. 1.00

00:29:44.000 Joe Rogan, stay there.

00:29:45.000 We're going to talk behind scenes right now, uncensored, for three minutes at the Infowars.com screens, back worldwide in three minutes.

00:29:53.000 Hey Joe, let's continue.

00:29:55.000 Man, that is... I mean, I'm really glad you brought that point up, because it made me think of these other points.

00:30:00.000 I need to send you, or watch it for free on Google Video, the film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

00:30:06.000 This is their own document.

00:30:07.000 See, the common sense that you're agreeing with, and your own, you know, things you discovered on your own, This is separately what, in the last two years, I found out is their whole view. 0.99

00:30:17.000 I mean, you know about social Darwinism, where they took Darwinism a step further and said, it's good to put people in sausage machines and enslave people and kill protesters because, you know, a hundred years ago, because we're the elite and, you know, the scum isn't an elite because they're scum, we have a right to kill them, when really they're like a cancer malfunctioning who's willing to kill their own people. 0.99

00:30:38.000 Well, there's got to be something to that. 1.00

00:30:41.000 They really are like cancer.

00:30:42.000 I mean, but maybe that's the function that they serve.

00:30:45.000 Maybe that's a natural part of the human organism.

00:30:48.000 You know, that's another thing that I've been thinking a lot about lately.

00:30:51.000 About the way people behave.

00:30:52.000 That we've behaved like this from the beginning of time.

00:30:55.000 We've always been terrible and destroying our neighbors.

00:31:00.000 Joe, that's what they say.

00:31:02.000 They say somebody's going to kill the neighbors.

00:31:04.000 They say somebody's going to do it, so we might as well do it.

00:31:07.000 Right, but do you think that if you... I mean, there's people that believe that everything in life is natural, and that there's an order to the world.

00:31:16.000 It's almost like some gigantic mathematical program.

00:31:20.000 There is.

00:31:20.000 It's like King of the Jungle.

00:31:22.000 Yeah, it is like that.

00:31:23.000 And if that is the case, maybe that's just what happens.

00:31:27.000 Like what we were talking about earlier, like with times of great wealth that people get lazy.

00:31:34.000 Yes.

00:31:35.000 You know, and that people, uh, they allow things to happen because there's too much, too much bounty.

00:31:41.000 Everything's great.

00:31:42.000 They don't worry about things and people get fat.

00:31:44.000 And so they don't appreciate anything until everything goes to hell.

00:31:46.000 Right.

00:31:47.000 Maybe that's natural.

00:31:48.000 Maybe when people get lazy. 0.98

00:31:50.000 I mean, all these people that believe, you know, that, you know, there's hurricanes attacking New Orleans because there's gay people there. 0.99

00:31:57.000 God wants to punish them for their sloth. 0.98

00:31:59.000 Maybe not really, but maybe there is a punishment for that.

00:32:05.000 Maybe it's not like a hurricane that comes in.

00:32:07.000 Maybe it's an increased supply of these people who take advantage of other people.

00:32:13.000 Increased supply of companies that are willing to destroy the environment for profit.

00:32:18.000 By the way, Joe, I've interviewed the father of weather weapons, meteorologist Ben Livingston.

00:32:22.000 In 1967, they had certified they could create hurricanes, kill them, make them stronger, steer them, and there's a lot of evidence that the government was manipulating Katrina and steering it.

00:32:35.000 Well, we know for sure that the government can do something to the weather.

00:32:40.000 We know they've been working on it for a long time.

00:32:43.000 You know, they've been trying to do it for a long time, but to the extent, what they've got, they're not going to tell us.

00:32:49.000 You know, so it's all like, who knows whether or not they can actually steer hurricanes.

00:32:53.000 It doesn't seem like they can do it.

00:32:55.000 Well, but... It seems like a pretty big thing.

00:32:57.000 Well, no, no, they can do unlimited aircraft.

00:32:59.000 Let me... Just Google Ben Livingston.

00:33:00.000 How do you do it?

00:33:01.000 Well, just with the... Is it proven?

00:33:04.000 Yes, this is certified, but it wasn't declassified until two years ago.

00:33:08.000 Here we go, Joe.

00:33:11.000 To Alaska, go north for Russia's own. 0.99

00:33:14.000 North to Alaska, go north for Russia's own. 0.98

00:33:20.000 Big Sam left Seattle in the year of 92.

00:33:25.000 With George Pratt, his partner, and brother Billy too.

00:33:31.000 They crossed the Yukon River and found the Bonanza Gold.

00:33:37.000 Below that old white mountain, just a little southeast of Nome.

00:33:43.000 Sam Frost, the majestic...

00:33:46.000 Joe Rogan is our guest.

00:33:47.000 JoeRogan.net.

00:33:51.000 Joe, before we go any further, I want to get into the war, electronic voting machines, DMT, ultimate fighting, all of it before Vincent Bugliosi joins us.

00:34:00.000 You're going to ride shotgun then.

00:34:02.000 I want to first thank you for taking the time out to join us, especially with having a new baby in the last three weeks.

00:34:07.000 And I want to thank you for your friendship and all the laughs you've given me and the times we've had to hang out here in Austin and out in L.A.

00:34:14.000 It's good to be talking to you after a few years being out of touch.

00:34:17.000 But just anything you want to mention about your website, what you're doing these days, any plugs?

00:34:23.000 No, not really.

00:34:24.000 If they want to learn anything about me, JoeRogan.net is a website where I keep a fairly regular blog.

00:34:30.000 I'll do a new blog post soon.

00:34:34.000 I'll try to be a lot more regular, but having the kid has thrown me off a little bit.

00:34:38.000 That's my excuse.

00:34:39.000 That's going to be my excuse for everything.

00:34:44.000 Yeah, I've had it for a while.

00:34:45.000 I've had a message board.

00:34:45.000 on the site you've been joe rogan dot net's been around like eight nine years hasn't it yeah i've had it for a while i i've had a message board i've got this crazy message board man and i put it up i think in like 98 or 99 or something like that and this message board has got like a million six hundred thousand posts on it and all these members that post every day they're really cool people like a lot of them like really interesting and intelligent

00:35:11.000 and there's these crazy debates on there and some of them are really really nutty like this uh...

00:35:17.000 you know there's of course your nine eleven debates and there's u_f_o_ debate then moon landing debate and mixed martial arts debate But it's a really interesting little group of human beings that hang out there all the time.

00:35:30.000 I feel very fortunate to have that.

00:35:33.000 Joe, let's talk about 9/11.

00:35:35.000 We have declassified that the USS Liberty was a staged event in '67.

00:35:39.000 It's been declassified that the attack on the supposed destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin was staged.

00:35:45.000 That resulted in 58,000 dead Americans and a million plus dead Vietnamese.

00:35:50.000 We know now with Building 7 and the firefighters saying, get back, they're going to blow it up.

00:35:54.000 We have that on video.

00:35:55.000 I mean, we have the firefighters saying there was molten lava under the other buildings that Jet Fuel couldn't do.

00:36:00.000 We have the war games that day, NORAD standing down.

00:36:04.000 I mean, I've Well, I question everything all the time about everything.

00:36:07.000 you've been on other shows and have now questioned 9/11, which I commend you for doing.

00:36:12.000 What makes you question the official story, and how far do you question it?

00:36:17.000 Well, I question everything all the time about everything.

00:36:20.000 I don't believe anything until it gets into my brain and bounces around and I look at it logically.

00:36:27.000 I've seen way too many people just jump to conclusions or pick a side and as soon as they get on that side, they chase that side until they die.

00:36:37.000 They never admit that they made a mistake.

00:36:39.000 And that's a horrible thing.

00:36:41.000 And people confuse information and truth.

00:36:47.000 With their own ego.

00:36:48.000 They make an investment, I totally agree, in an idea.

00:36:51.000 Once somebody says I'm a reptoid from planet Pop-Tart, they have to only say that and add whatever evidence, or once they say I'm a Vatican assassin of the Keebler Elves, they only, you know, all their slander, all their libel, all their stalking, you know, saying the Zionists run it all and I'm bad, they, you know, because I won't buy into their particular camp, then I have to be the devil incarnate, and they only find evidence to agree with that.

00:37:15.000 Well, and people might point that same finger in your direction and say that you look for conspiracy in everything.

00:37:22.000 You know, that you believe there's complicity at the highest levels in everything, right?

00:37:27.000 And there's some people that would say that there's not enough evidence for that.

00:37:30.000 But my methodology's different.

00:37:32.000 I go off their own Rand Corporation, Carnegie Endowment, their own program.

00:37:37.000 You see, what disturbs me the most about you, Alex, is that the stuff that I used to think was completely ridiculous, I'm starting to think is real. 0.94

00:37:46.000 That's what disturbs me the most about our friendship, is that when I first met Alex, I was like, okay, this dude's really interesting, and he says some stuff that sounds like 40% true, 60% donkey poo, you know?

00:38:01.000 But now it's like, it's way more like 70-30.

00:38:05.000 You know, it's hard to disagree with you on a lot of things.

00:38:08.000 Well, thank you, Joe.

00:38:09.000 Well, it's hard to disagree with you on a lot of stuff.

00:38:10.000 But, I mean, specifically 9-11.

00:38:12.000 Building 7.

00:38:13.000 Specifically 9-11.

00:38:14.000 Look, I don't know enough about what happened to make... I'm not a scientist.

00:38:19.000 I can't tell you whether or not those buildings fell like that.

00:38:22.000 You know what?

00:38:22.000 I think anybody saying that they can...

00:38:24.000 A lot of that is speculation.

00:38:26.000 The only way we're really going to know what happens when two giant planes hit two giant buildings is to build two more giant buildings and slam into it with two more giant planes.

00:38:36.000 The Building 7 wasn't hit by one.

00:38:39.000 You're right about Building 7.

00:38:40.000 And Building 7 is the one building that I'm always willing to talk to people about because I find it very shocking that nobody thinks it's weird how that building fell.

00:38:49.000 That that building kicked in the middle and fell like it was a controlled demolition.

00:38:54.000 Was it a controlled demolition?

00:38:55.000 I have no idea.

00:38:57.000 I don't even really know what a controlled demolition looks like other than what I've seen on the internet.

00:39:00.000 Well, the government would... Well, what I'm trying to say is, what I'm trying to say is, I don't know.

00:39:05.000 But it's strange to me that people will go, ah, nothing happened.

00:39:09.000 Nothing happened.

00:39:11.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:39:11.000 Nothing happened.

00:39:12.000 Are you looking at the same thing I'm looking at?

00:39:14.000 Because I'm looking at a building falling into its footprint.

00:39:18.000 Why is it falling into its footprint?

00:39:19.000 That doesn't happen.

00:39:20.000 There's damage in the building.

00:39:22.000 When you look at the damage in the building, it's to one corner of the building.

00:39:25.000 Again, I'm not a scientist, I'm not an engineer, I don't really understand physics that well, but I would assume that if there's a building that's being held up by four corners and one of them has a gigantic hole in it, it's going to fall towards that weak area.

00:39:40.000 Why is it collapsing on all these other corners?

00:39:43.000 And why is it doing it in such a uniform fashion?

00:39:46.000 That doesn't seem natural to me.

00:39:47.000 Well, you even have the blast squibs.

00:39:49.000 You can even see them.

00:39:51.000 I don't know if that's what that is, or if that's when buildings fall, or when buildings collapse.

00:39:55.000 A lot of Silversteins say, we gave the order to pull it, and gave the order to watch it come down.

00:39:59.000 I did hear that he said that, that we gave the order to pull it.

00:40:02.000 But, you know, he was dealing with, I mean, I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

00:40:06.000 This guy's dealing with this gigantic, cataclysmic event that just happened in a city where thousands of people died, and planes threw into buildings, and his building got jacked!

00:40:17.000 And he's just, you know, pull it, pull it.

00:40:18.000 Meaning, pull the project of trying to save his building, pull all the firefighters out.

00:40:23.000 But pull it is a demolition term.

00:40:25.000 It is, but he's not a demolition man!

00:40:28.000 Why did BBC, Joe, have you seen that?

00:40:32.000 I'm not saying that.

00:40:33.000 It doesn't have anything to do with it.

00:40:35.000 But do you see the point of view of the rational person?

00:40:37.000 No, no, I understand.

00:40:38.000 Look at it and say, well... Well, not rational, somebody in denial.

00:40:42.000 I don't know if it's somebody in denial.

00:40:45.000 I don't know what happened.

00:40:47.000 I do know it looked very unusual.

00:40:49.000 I hear you.

00:40:50.000 Something stinks.

00:40:50.000 I absolutely agree with you there.

00:40:51.000 Well, Joe, what about BBC 25 minutes before it falls, saying Building 7 has fallen in its own footprint, and then it's out the window behind them?

00:41:00.000 Okay, well, to play devil's advocate, I could tell you that the firemen maybe had already told the press and warned them to get back, because Building 7, they have deemed, is about to collapse.

00:41:11.000 And that got screwed up in the interpretation, again, with this huge cataclysmic event where planes are flying into the buildings, and everybody's freaking out.

00:41:19.000 Like, there's all these people, we heard explosions before it happened.

00:41:22.000 Do you really remember what happened before planes slammed into buildings?

00:41:26.000 Come on, Building 7.

00:41:27.000 Buildings collapsed and killed thousands of people?

00:41:29.000 Let me tell you something about trauma, dude.

00:41:31.000 Let me tell you something about freaky incidences.

00:41:33.000 People don't remember anything.

00:41:34.000 They remember bursts and weird things, and there's so much emotion going on and screaming.

00:41:41.000 But Joe, sure.

00:41:42.000 They remember flashes.

00:41:43.000 Joe.

00:41:44.000 And they can be talked into remembering almost anything.

00:41:48.000 but we weren't but we weren't talked into the fact that talking was staged a fifty eight thousand americans died I'm with you 100%.

00:41:53.000 And they staged attacks to start the war with Iran in 1953.

00:41:56.000 How about Operation Northwoods?

00:41:58.000 How about the Northwoods document?

00:42:00.000 That's scary!

00:42:01.000 That Northwoods document, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, you can look at it online.

00:42:06.000 It's a document that was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:42:09.000 When was it, Alex?

00:42:10.000 61?

00:42:10.000 62, yeah.

00:42:11.000 62.

00:42:12.000 It was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:42:14.000 This was a plan to fake terrorist attacks on American civilians and blame them on Cuba so that people would want to go to war with Cuba. 0.95

00:42:24.000 They were going to kill people! 0.95

00:42:27.000 They were gonna fake attack!

00:42:29.000 One of them involved something with an airliner and a bunch of college students.

00:42:33.000 Wasn't that the case?

00:42:35.000 Absolutely. 0.98

00:42:36.000 In fact, they were going to bomb D.C., they were going to commit sniper attacks, shoot Americans. 0.99

00:42:40.000 They were going to have Cuban Americans dress up like Cuban Army and attack Guantanamo Bay, and it said mortar and shoot and bomb and kill people. 0.97

00:42:47.000 Well, that's a horrifying thought, that if this was going on in 1962, in my opinion, the way I look at it, everything evolves. 0.52

00:42:57.000 Everything evolves.

00:42:58.000 Technology involves, entertainment involves, evolves, everything evolves.

00:43:03.000 Well, if everything evolves, then evil has to evolve too.

00:43:06.000 Okay, and if they're willing to fake attacks on American civilians and kill Americans in order to get us convinced that we need to go to war with a country that had nothing to do with those acts, if they were willing to do that in 62, what are they willing to do in 2008?

00:43:22.000 We know that in real life.

00:43:23.000 Well, Joe, exactly.

00:43:24.000 Take the military mentality going back to Alexander the Great, you know, thousands of years ago.

00:43:29.000 They would put a few hundred horsemen or a few thousand infantrymen in a gorge or in an area they wanted to attack to pull in the main army.

00:43:36.000 And then when the enemy army would come in, it would sacrifice those few thousand, those pawns in the game, collateral damage.

00:43:42.000 But then their argument was, but then we won the war and we lost less people total.

00:43:47.000 Well, that military idea... You believe that's people that are in a war.

00:43:52.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:52.000 If you're in a war, I mean, you've got to know that there's tactics and there's pawns.

00:43:56.000 If you're paying attention to what war is, what we're dealing with in our society is a lie, like this big, like, ruse.

00:44:04.000 Pretending that it's one thing when it's really something else.

00:44:06.000 Pretending that there's democracy, when really what we have is this huge, gigantic group of human beings that are controlled by corporations.

00:44:15.000 so they're controlled by you're seeing that you of course you've seen i should even ask you that documentary the corporation straight back up writing documentary we're talking about how corporations basically act like sociopaths and that because of theirs there's a gigantic diffusion of the diffusion of responsibility when you have all these people doing something that is compartmentalized and so they all share the blame None of them stab the people in the heart themselves.

00:44:41.000 They collectively do it with blinders on, and so... And they say it's all for business.

00:44:46.000 And then you... We're doing it in business.

00:44:47.000 In the name of business.

00:44:48.000 I agree.

00:44:48.000 And then you can't ever stop them, because you go punish one of them, but it's the cellular organization, kind of like what you said an hour ago, or 45 minutes ago, that it's this communal thing, and so you can't ever beat the whole compartmentalized system, because you can only attack certain pieces of it.

00:45:03.000 Right, and there's so much vested interest in keeping that corporation alive.

00:45:06.000 There's so many mortgages attached to that corporation.

00:45:09.000 There's so many kids that are in private school attached to that corporation.

00:45:12.000 There's so many, you know, credit card bills.

00:45:14.000 They want to keep that organization alive.

00:45:16.000 That's a giant community.

00:45:18.000 And what it is really, what any organization like that is really, is like an organism.

00:45:24.000 It's like we have this gigantic organism that's the human race, and inside we have little substructures.

00:45:30.000 And we have cities, and we have mayors, and all that jazz, but corporations are like their own little substructure.

00:45:37.000 Well, take the police!

00:45:38.000 They now are just militarizing, doubling, tripling, quadrupling their numbers, growing wildly, and it's all about protecting themselves now, not the public.

00:45:49.000 It's all about, quote, the officers and their system.

00:45:51.000 Well, the crazy thing about the cops is the ones who are doing all the work aren't even the ones that I mean, the cops that are out there, you know, that are driving on the streets and are arresting people and, like, if they're really working for the New World Order, they're us! 0.72

00:46:08.000 They're getting screwed more than anything! 0.82

00:46:09.000 Oh, I agree, I say that. 0.98

00:46:10.000 Because they're being forced.

00:46:11.000 They're not making money out of it.

00:46:12.000 It's not like cops are getting rich.

00:46:13.000 No, I agree.

00:46:14.000 Being a cop is a dangerous job.

00:46:16.000 They do it for the system. 1.00

00:46:17.000 There's a lot of scumbags out there. 0.99

00:46:18.000 Well, I mean, most cops mean well, but have been given a false template. 0.99

00:46:22.000 They believe when they take a teenager to jail for some marijuana that it's a good thing.

00:46:26.000 But I think because of the fact that most cops mean well, I think ultimately it's going to be very hard to have a police state.

00:46:32.000 Because they'd be policing their own people.

00:46:35.000 They'd be policing themselves.

00:46:36.000 Well, Joe, I got stories here where a woman's drinking a glass of water and a wine glass with her child, and after going to the dentist and they pull her over in Phoenix and go ahead and take her to jail. 0.98

00:46:47.000 She might have been a douchebag. 1.00

00:46:49.000 You ever think of that? 0.99

00:46:49.000 So she deserved it. 0.99

00:46:50.000 She might have been a crazy pain in the ass. 1.00

00:46:52.000 They might have pulled her over and she might have said a bunch of dumb stuff and yelled at the cops. 1.00

00:46:57.000 So she deserves it. 0.99

00:46:58.000 She might have been drunk. 0.97

00:46:58.000 She might have been lying. 0.97

00:46:59.000 She might have been doing coke. 1.00

00:47:00.000 She might have smoked a joint. 0.99

00:47:02.000 Who knows? 0.99

00:47:03.000 She might be a mass murderer. 1.00

00:47:03.000 I don't know that lady. 1.00

00:47:05.000 Let me tell you something.

00:47:06.000 Every time I get pulled over by cops, you know what I say?

00:47:08.000 Sorry, sir.

00:47:09.000 Here's my license.

00:47:10.000 Here's my registration.

00:47:11.000 You know how many times I've been arrested?

00:47:13.000 Zero.

00:47:14.000 You know why?

00:47:15.000 Because I respect cops.

00:47:16.000 I know a lot of cops from Jiu Jitsu.

00:47:18.000 I know a lot of cops from all my years of training martial arts.

00:47:21.000 I've met a lot of them.

00:47:22.000 And they're just dudes.

00:47:24.000 They're dudes who want to get a job. 0.92

00:47:25.000 They have a very stressful, screwed up job.

00:47:28.000 It's a compartmentalization, Joe, is what I'm saying.

00:47:30.000 But what I'm saying is that if a lady gets pulled over drinking a glass of water, and they lock her in a cage, maybe there's some more to the story. 0.95

00:47:38.000 Maybe that lady's crazy. 1.00

00:47:39.000 Well, it was in the Phoenix Newspaper, so it's all right now. 0.92

00:47:44.000 He's not a nut. 0.92

00:47:45.000 He could easily be a nut.

00:47:46.000 It's a good story to put in the Phoenix newspaper. 0.91

00:47:49.000 It's a good version of it.

00:47:51.000 Have you heard?

00:47:52.000 Police are now running checkpoints taking blood, Joe.

00:47:55.000 Listen, I've seen a lot of videos on YouTube of cops tasering dudes for no reason at all.

00:48:01.000 I'm with you, that sometimes things go horribly wrong, and that those dudes are under a constant amount of stress, and sometimes when people don't comply, they have just heard enough, and they pull out that taser, and they blast them, and it makes for a very funny video online.

00:48:15.000 I've seen it happen.

00:48:16.000 But Joe, it's getting worse.

00:48:18.000 Here's the deal.

00:48:21.000 I understand.

00:48:22.000 You're not supposed to give them a middle option.

00:48:24.000 It's like, you remember in Star Trek, you know, they had the gun that was set to stun or to kill?

00:48:28.000 No, look, it should only be kill, alright?

00:48:32.000 You shouldn't be spanking people. 1.00

00:48:34.000 I mean, people aren't children.

00:48:35.000 I agree.

00:48:36.000 You don't spank kids and you don't taser people. 1.00

00:48:38.000 Joe, I want to shift gears. 1.00

00:48:39.000 You shouldn't take someone out as if they're dangerous and you should kill them. 1.00

00:48:43.000 You should just blast Joe Rogan. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Joe Rogan, JoeRogan.net.

00:48:47.000 I want to get Burmese in here for a minute because he's a big fan of Ultimate Fighting, big fan of yours, and he's one of the guys that made loose change.

00:48:53.000 Go ahead and say hi to him.

00:48:54.000 Hey Joe, how you doing?

00:48:56.000 You want to say anything about 9-11 to him?

00:48:58.000 I just wanted to check out, he should check out the Amalgam Virgo document.

00:49:00.000 He talked about the Northwoods document, but Amalgam Virgo was the drill that they ran in June 1st and 2nd of 2001 where they actually drilled ramming a hijacked airliner into the Capitol building while other attacks were going on.

00:49:14.000 And the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

00:49:15.000 Yeah, and it had a second part where they were actually going to do live-fly hijack exercises where they were going to have FBI agents on deck with a flight crew and then divert the planes to Alaska.

00:49:25.000 So yeah, tell him, which is in Northwoods, but tell him Springman, the head of the embassy, the head, was told these are U.S.

00:49:33.000 government agents, let the hijackers back in.

00:49:35.000 Yeah, well, we just interviewed him again for this new film.

00:49:37.000 Yeah, in the new film, Fabled Enemies, we have J. Michael Springman, who was the consulate at Jeddah in the visa department.

00:49:43.000 His job was to give people visas or not give people visas.

00:49:46.000 And his thing was, he was not giving a lot of these people visas, and then his superiors would be like, no, you need to give them a visa.

00:49:52.000 And he was like, why?

00:49:53.000 And they'd say, well, it's national security purposes.

00:49:56.000 And then he talked to some of his buddies at the CIA, and they let him know That this was actually a program to bring Islamic militants into the United States to work with their asset, Osama Bin Laden.

00:50:07.000 And, you know, the interview is just awesome.

00:50:09.000 Now, did you just hear that, Joe?

00:50:11.000 Yes, I did.

00:50:11.000 And if that's true, that's really scary.

00:50:15.000 And you know what?

00:50:15.000 I believe it probably could be true, very easily.

00:50:18.000 Now, here's my question, though.

00:50:20.000 If there is something like this that happened, say if 9-11 was this gigantic staged act, And that they had set it up in advance and somehow or another had rigged the gigantic buildings so that they would, you know, be... What is it?

00:50:34.000 Thermate? 0.93

00:50:35.000 Thermate so it cuts through the metal and it brings the buildings down.

00:50:37.000 That's the speculation, right?

00:50:39.000 Yes.

00:50:40.000 How many people had to be involved?

00:50:42.000 About a hundred.

00:50:42.000 We broke it down to about a hundred and twenty.

00:50:44.000 Stay there.

00:50:44.000 We're going to talk behind the scenes for InfoWars.com, folks, and for people watching in PrisonPlanet.tv with Joe Rogan.

00:50:50.000 Then we'll be back for another five-minute segment, another five after that.

00:50:53.000 Then he's going to ride shotgun with us with Vincent Luligosi.

00:50:56.000 Stay with us.

00:50:56.000 This is the GCN Radio Network.

00:50:58.000 Again, we'll continue behind the scenes right now.

00:51:00.000 Joe, I appreciate your incredible courage to say you're even questioning it.

00:51:09.000 But what I'm telling you is this was the head of the embassy, and there's another guy who was the head of another embassy section in Canada, not just in Saudi Arabia, saying they were told, hey, these are government agents' assets, let them in.

00:51:24.000 And we're talking Mohammed Addo.

00:51:27.000 That, Alex, is that the FBI had two of these guys staying with an asset.

00:51:32.000 In other words, Khalid al-Madar and Nawaf al-Zahami were actually staying with an FBI informant that was handled by an agent named Stephen Butler.

00:51:39.000 That was in San Diego.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, he was living with them in San Diego.

00:51:42.000 Now, the official line is that they didn't even know that they were on the terrorism watch list until about two days after the attack, because they were in the United States illegally.

00:51:51.000 But then you find out about Abel Danger, And two of these guys, the two guys that were living with the FBI informant, were two of the guys that Able Danger had actually identified.

00:51:59.000 Joe, here's what happened.

00:52:00.000 These were government agents.

00:52:01.000 We know they even did mock drills.

00:52:03.000 That's what James Woods saw.

00:52:05.000 They got on board.

00:52:06.000 Nerve gas was released.

00:52:07.000 The few real calls we've got off air phones are the Sturdists going, ah, I can't breathe! 1.00

00:52:11.000 Ah, something's in here!

00:52:12.000 That, and then they were remote controlled, sir, that we know.

00:52:15.000 Do you have copies of those things?

00:52:17.000 Yeah, well, yeah, no, I mean, we've got the transcripts.

00:52:19.000 The government's released it and said, ah, There's the MP3s out there.

00:52:23.000 You can listen to some of their phone calls.

00:52:25.000 MP3s out there of these women? 1.00

00:52:27.000 Yeah.

00:52:28.000 They basically say that there's gas in the back and that they're having trouble breathing.

00:52:32.000 They're pretty short conversations.

00:52:34.000 What do you guys think happened?

00:52:35.000 Do you believe that it was a remote Well, Joe, we were actually able, last August, to get NORAD's tape so we could listen to what they were hearing.

00:52:42.000 And then you got arrested for that.

00:52:43.000 They then came and SWAT teamed you.

00:52:45.000 Well, that did happen, but whatever.

00:52:46.000 government was having drills, not just in June, but the day of the event.

00:52:49.000 They get on board, nerve gas is released, they flip all the transponders off, remote control them in.

00:52:53.000 Well, Joe, we were actually able last August to get NORAD's tape so we could listen to what they were hearing.

00:52:58.000 And then you got arrested for that.

00:53:00.000 They then came and SWAT teamed you.

00:53:01.000 Well, that did happen, but whatever.

00:53:02.000 Basically, they had about 20 different hijackings that day.

00:53:06.000 You just whatevered a SWAT team arrest?

00:53:09.000 Yeah, they came and grabbed Corey because they were on base.

00:53:11.000 They scanned the place. 0.99

00:53:12.000 I'll give you your balls. 1.00

00:53:13.000 Well, whatever. 0.99

00:53:14.000 You need a SWAT team of reps. 0.88

00:53:16.000 And a camera machine gun, whatever.

00:53:19.000 What?

00:53:20.000 That's just life, man.

00:53:21.000 Why are you making these documentaries, dude?

00:53:23.000 I'm not sure if you really recognize what's going on here.

00:53:26.000 Hey, someone's got to do it.

00:53:27.000 But I do want to point out again, you know, they had other hijackings.

00:53:31.000 They had hijackings coming out of Canada. 0.82

00:53:33.000 After the flight 93 was down, they called up Cheyenne Mountain and said, You need to turn off these inputs on the drills because we can't tell which planes are actual hijackings.

00:53:42.000 They had a hijacking out of Korea Airlines.

00:53:44.000 They had a threat against Air Force One that day.

00:53:46.000 Somehow these supposed hijackers had gotten all the secret codes to the NSA, the Secret Service, the FBI, the CIA that morning.

00:53:54.000 Yeah, Joe!

00:53:55.000 I'll tell you what, we got Bugliosi coming on for like 30 minutes.

00:53:58.000 Joe has graciously said he'll stay with us a whole other hour.

00:54:00.000 Why don't you come in after he's gone?

00:54:01.000 You got it.

00:54:02.000 Okay, here we go live.

00:54:05.000 The preacher man says it's the end of time and the Mississippi River, she's a gold drive. 0.99

00:54:17.000 The interest is up and the stock market's down and you're only getting mugged if you go downtown.

00:54:24.000 But if you're Joe Rogan, you're a champion jujitsu guy, mixed martial arts, he'll beat up the mugger.

00:54:32.000 Joe is really nice.

00:54:32.000 He's agreed to stay with us a whole other hour.

00:54:34.000 And we're going to have Burmus back in later to talk 9-11 with him.

00:54:39.000 JoeRogan.net.

00:54:41.000 Joe, I want to get back into 9-11 and other things later, but right now I wanted to talk about DMT and electronic voting machines.

00:54:47.000 I know you've talked a lot about both those issues, and they're both pretty darn important.

00:54:52.000 You want to get into DMT first and the type of experiences you've had?

00:54:55.000 I mean, you're a big health guy, but you've taken this, I guess, as a spiritual experience or whatever.

00:55:00.000 You want to tell folks what happens when you take it?

00:55:02.000 I think that psychedelic experiences are the root of all religious experiences.

00:55:07.000 That's what my personal belief is.

00:55:09.000 I believe that these religious experiences that people have had without psychedelics are the result of natural endogenous dumps of psychedelics in your system.

00:55:19.000 And this is from reading a lot of people's books.

00:55:22.000 None of these are my ideas.

00:55:23.000 Yeah, you eat some bad cheese and it's got DMT in it.

00:55:26.000 It's in a lot of natural things.

00:55:28.000 It's that simple.

00:55:29.000 You can't really eat DMT, because DMT, your stomach produces something called monoamine oxidase, and it breaks down... You gotta smoke it, but I mean, there's other things that'll make it a hallucinating food, though.

00:55:40.000 There's ways that they've been doing it for thousands of years in the Amazon, where they make a brew called ayahuasca, and what it is is the vine of one plant, and then the leaves of another plant, and it's mixed together, so it's DMT is in one of the plants, and the other plant is what's called an MAO inhibitor, a monoamine oxidase inhibitor.

00:55:58.000 And what that does is it allows them to take an orally active form of DMT.

00:56:01.000 And this drug DMT, you know, you want to call it a drug, it's actually a natural human neurotransmitter.

00:56:06.000 No, I understand.

00:56:07.000 And it exists, but I'm just saying to people that don't understand it, it exists everywhere in nature.

00:56:13.000 It exists in thousands of different plants.

00:56:16.000 It exists in human beings make it naturally.

00:56:19.000 They believe the pineal gland is what makes it.

00:56:22.000 And what that means, what the pineal gland is, is literally your third eye.

00:56:26.000 It's a gland in the middle of your forehead that in reptiles, in some reptiles, it actually has a retina and a cornea and a lens.

00:56:32.000 I mean, it literally is the third eye.

00:56:34.000 And this is where All the anecdotal evidence points to that this gland is producing this crazy chemical.

00:56:41.000 It's produced in your body, wherever it is, whatever makes it.

00:56:45.000 When you take this stuff, You encounter the most unbelievably beautiful experience, ultimate wisdom, being in front of something that exposes every single aspect of your personality, of your thoughts, everything you've ever said and done.

00:57:02.000 It's like, reads you right through you, connects you to everything in the world, and you're being communicated with.

00:57:09.000 Something is talking to you, and it's Whatever it is, you're looking at it and it's constantly changing.

00:57:16.000 And it looks like, the way I describe it, I say it's like complex geometric patterns that are made out of love.

00:57:23.000 It's some unbelievable experience.

00:57:26.000 And your own brain makes this stuff.

00:57:28.000 And they believe that your brain makes this stuff in mass quantities right before you die.

00:57:33.000 So what you could be seeing when you do DMT, Heaven, the idea of Heaven, might be real.

00:57:41.000 It might not be as simple as you die.

00:57:43.000 It might be something far more complicated.

00:57:45.000 Now, Joe, if you love this stuff so much, I mean, you're a big health guy.

00:57:48.000 You've only taken it twice, though.

00:57:50.000 Is that because it's so heavy?

00:57:51.000 I've taken it a bunch of times.

00:57:52.000 Okay, well, I must have heard an old interview then.

00:57:55.000 It's not, yeah, it was an old interview.

00:57:57.000 That was a few years ago.

00:57:59.000 It's not something that you do all the time, though.

00:58:02.000 It's something that you do, and then you have to really think about what you learned when you were having that experience.

00:58:08.000 Because otherwise, you're going to lose your context.

00:58:12.000 The problem with psychedelics is if you do them too much, you lose your connection to this world.

00:58:18.000 You lose your connection to people and life and our culture and our society and communication and friendship.

00:58:24.000 You lose your connection because the other world is so crazy and so alien to this world that once you've been in it a few times, this world doesn't make any more sense.

00:58:35.000 Stay there, Joe.

00:58:36.000 I want to talk about how we're in one world while we're sleeping and another world while we're waking.

00:58:40.000 Stay there.

00:58:45.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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00:58:54.000 ...society and communication and friendship.

00:58:57.000 You lose your connection because the other world is so crazy and so alien to this world that once you've been in it a few times, this world doesn't make any more sense.

00:59:07.000 Stay there, Joe.

00:59:08.000 I want to talk about how we're in one world while we're sleeping and another world while we're waking.

00:59:12.000 Stay there.

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01:01:05.000 Joe Rogan, you were talking about This chemical that's in the brain associated with dreaming, associated with spiritual experiences, DMT.

01:01:15.000 And the last time I'd seen an interview with you talking about it, you've taken it a few times.

01:01:18.000 You since say you've taken it more.

01:01:21.000 And again, please continue about the sleeping world, you know, that reality, and then the waking world.

01:01:28.000 Well, that is a lot of speculation about what happens to us when we sleep.

01:01:33.000 What they believe is that DMT is produced at large levels during sleeping and during the moment before death.

01:01:40.000 And one of the things about the DMT experience that's the most unsettling, or the strangest rather, is that when you pop over there, you feel like you've been there before.

01:01:50.000 Like, right away, you're like, oh man, I've been here.

01:01:54.000 Like, instantly, you recognize it.

01:01:56.000 Almost like you go there all the time.

01:01:58.000 And that's the idea behind it.

01:02:00.000 The idea behind it is that there's something happens to us when we sleep, and that it's very possible that we enter into the DMT world when we're in the period of heavy REM sleep.

01:02:11.000 And the reason why they believe that is that one of the reasons is just like a dream.

01:02:17.000 You know when you have a dream and you wake up and you're like, whoa, I had the craziest dream.

01:02:21.000 And it fades away in seconds.

01:02:22.000 Yeah, and five, ten seconds later you can't remember the dream.

01:02:26.000 A half an hour later it's like, I had a dream.

01:02:28.000 You remember like little flashes of what you were talking about.

01:02:31.000 Like maybe if it's really crazy and you were talking about it, then you'll remember because you were talking to someone about it.

01:02:38.000 Like you wake your wife up and you just immediately start telling her about your dream, and then she'll kind of remember it, and then she'll remind you, and then you'll remember it.

01:02:44.000 Well, that's what DMT is like.

01:02:46.000 What's that term?

01:02:47.000 I'm in a movie about it.

01:02:48.000 You'd think I'd remember the name.

01:02:49.000 It's not astronaut.

01:02:50.000 It's about people that are into experiencing, remembering their dreams, controlling their dreams.

01:02:54.000 Oh, lucid dreaming.

01:02:55.000 Yeah, lucid dreaming, but there's a term.

01:02:57.000 Argonauts or something knots?

01:02:59.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:03:00.000 I don't know.

01:03:01.000 But there's people that believe that that is related to DMT.

01:03:05.000 The lucid dream and DMT is very closely related.

01:03:11.000 Dr. Rick Strassman, he's a guy out of the University of New Mexico, is doing all these crazy studies to try to figure out what is real and what is not.

01:03:20.000 He's got this whole Cottonwood Research Foundation that is dedicated to finding out what the levels of DMT are in a bunch of different human different things that we do during the day, different actions, whether it's being scared or whether it's being in love.

01:03:36.000 And they're going to do a whole bunch of studies to try to figure out what the levels are.

01:03:41.000 Well, all I know is I've had a few dozen dreams, and you always know after them, it's kind of a waking dream.

01:03:46.000 You wake up, you're sweating.

01:03:47.000 It's so intense.

01:03:48.000 Like, I had a dream of this exact person that tried to mug me in Dallas.

01:03:52.000 I'm like 15.

01:03:53.000 I wake up, freaked out.

01:03:57.000 I see this person in this green and pink shirt come around the corner and assault me.

01:04:01.000 And as I was walking around this corner about five, six months later, this person comes around the corner and attacks me, and it's them.

01:04:10.000 And I was so because I told people about it, Joe.

01:04:13.000 Do you know why people think that that's crazy?

01:04:17.000 It's because people can't do that all the time.

01:04:19.000 That's the only reason why people think that's crazy.

01:04:22.000 If you stop and think about all the crazy things that people can do, how about just the fact that we can see out of our eyes?

01:04:29.000 We look through these organs in our head, and we can make out objects, and we can read things, and... That's a crazy gift!

01:04:36.000 Could you imagine if there were no eyes?

01:04:39.000 Trying to describe the power of eyesight to someone if there were no eyes.

01:04:43.000 It would be almost impossible.

01:04:44.000 Wow, Joe, that's an amazing way to describe it.

01:04:47.000 Lulling me away.

01:04:47.000 That is how it could be.

01:04:49.000 It could be that there's a bunch of different things that are possible.

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01:05:19.000 That is how it could be.

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01:08:11.000 Okay, Joe Rogan, host of the Man Show, Comedy Central, host of Fear Factor, host of a new big show coming out on CBS, host of Ultimate Fighting Championships, top comedian, good friend of mine, he was on with us in the last hour, talking about electronic voting machines, government corruption, you name it.

01:08:29.000 He'll be riding shotgun with us for the rest of this hour, but for the next 40 minutes or so, Vincent Bugliosi is our guest.

01:08:37.000 He really doesn't need any introduction.

01:08:39.000 Mr. Bugliosi was the individual who successfully prosecuted the Manson family and of course had a best-selling book there.

01:08:48.000 Things he's written have been made into TV and movies and it goes on and on.

01:08:53.000 His new book is The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

01:08:57.000 Vincent Bugliosi, available at Amazon.com and everywhere else.

01:09:02.000 And I tell you, we are really honored to have him on with us.

01:09:05.000 And Joe Rogan, again, is going to be riding shotgun.

01:09:07.000 And he's really politically active and been exposing what the administration's been doing.

01:09:11.000 So he'll be chiming in as well.

01:09:14.000 Mr. Bugliosi, thanks for coming on with us.

01:09:16.000 Well, I'm happy to be on the show, Alex.

01:09:18.000 I appreciate it.

01:09:18.000 You bet!

01:09:19.000 You are a very well-respected prosecutor and crime investigator.

01:09:23.000 What made you write this book, and why should?

01:09:26.000 What a provocative headline, titled, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

01:09:31.000 Tell us about it.

01:09:32.000 Yeah, well, Alex, I don't like to see anyone get away with murder, much less over 100,000 murders.

01:09:42.000 When you stop and think about the thousands upon thousands of deaths in Iraq and the horror and the screaming and the sea of blood and the incredible suffering there, it's unimaginable.

01:09:54.000 And the question is, who's going to pay for all of this?

01:09:57.000 Someone has to pay.

01:09:59.000 And the person that has to pay, obviously, is the one that's responsible for all of this horror and death and suffering.

01:10:04.000 And that person, the evidence shows, is George Bush.

01:10:09.000 So far, he's gotten away with murder.

01:10:11.000 This book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, may put an end to it, may put him where he belongs, in an American courtroom, being tried for murder.

01:10:21.000 This, obviously, is the most explosive book of my 30-year career.

01:10:25.000 I've had three books cut up.

01:10:26.000 The number one in the New York Times bestseller list, Outrage on the Simpson Case, Helter Skelter, and Amnesty will tell.

01:10:33.000 This book is not my magnum opus.

01:10:35.000 That's Reclaiming History, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, which is Presently being made by Tom Hanks and his people into a 10-hour miniseries for HBO, but this is the most explosive book.

01:10:47.000 I'm dead serious about it.

01:10:48.000 I've had 21 successful murder prosecutions, and at this stage in my life, you know, I'm 73, I wouldn't in a million years think of bringing a case against the President of the United States, unless I thought there was sufficient evidence And I was standing on very firm legal ground, and hopefully we'll be able to get into some of the evidence against Bush.

01:11:10.000 Well, let me just throw this out, and I've ordered the book.

01:11:13.000 I haven't gotten it yet.

01:11:13.000 I can't wait to read it, sir, and I really respect your opinion on this.

01:11:17.000 My problem here is that we have the White House memos ordered by Bush to be written up by John Yoo, by, of course, now Attorney General, then Chief Counsel, Alberto Gonzalez.

01:11:28.000 A former Attorney General saying they can torture children sexually with pliers, that they can torture someone to death, and that they didn't mean to kill them, it's okay.

01:11:37.000 That right there, isn't that arrestable? 0.53

01:11:39.000 I mean, isn't that Joseph Mingala-type stuff?

01:11:43.000 Yeah, this book has nothing to do with torture.

01:11:47.000 When you talk about mass torture, you're talking about the International Criminal Court at The Hague, and they wouldn't even have jurisdiction to go after Bush for this, because the United States was not a signatory nation to the agreement establishing the ICC.

01:12:03.000 It's not completely clear that Bush is complicit in this torture thing.

01:12:08.000 He issued an executive order In February of 2002, mandating that all detainees are treated humanely, but this book has nothing to do with torture.

01:12:19.000 It has something to do with murder, specifically the 4,000 U.S. 0.63

01:12:24.000 soldiers who died in Iraq fighting Bush's war.

01:12:27.000 There's kind of an echo, Alex, when I'm talking, if you can tell your radio guy to take the echo out.

01:12:34.000 Okay, we're not getting that on air, sir.

01:12:35.000 I apologize.

01:12:37.000 Before we get into the evidence, I just want to introduce Joe Rogan to you.

01:12:45.000 Joe, what do you think of the idea of this book?

01:12:47.000 I mean, that's a stunning title by somebody of the caliber of Vincente Bugliosi, the prosecution of George W. Bush for murder.

01:12:56.000 Here's my question.

01:12:57.000 Do you really think that it is possible that after he's out of office that he could be brought into court and tried for something like this?

01:13:05.000 Do you really believe that that's possible?

01:13:07.000 Or will Hillary or McCain or Barack Obama pardon him?

01:13:10.000 If you're talking about the law, Joe, there's still that echo there.

01:13:14.000 If you're talking about the law, Jesus, the echo's getting worse and worse.

01:13:19.000 So tell the guy to do something to take away this echo.

01:13:23.000 Joe, If you're talking about the law, the evidence is very, very clear that he can be prosecuted for murder once he leaves office.

01:13:33.000 Look, I'll give you a classic example.

01:13:35.000 In 1974, when Nixon resigned, you're well aware that there was a movement to prosecute him criminally for crimes he committed while he was in office.

01:13:46.000 And, of course, Gerald Ford Every word I say is echoing back to me.

01:13:52.000 Tell you what we're going to do, sir.

01:13:53.000 We're going to give your number right now to my Texas studio, and we'll have you put on this line.

01:13:59.000 Sir, since we can't fix it, that never happens, unless we've got a big guest.

01:14:03.000 It's very unusual.

01:14:05.000 And John, I am the number down here to Texas, and we'll get Mr. Bugliosi on right now via a Texas line.

01:14:12.000 How does that sound, sir?

01:14:13.000 Well, I'm still hearing the echo.

01:14:17.000 No, I'm saying we're going to call you back on another line.

01:14:19.000 We're gonna call you back on another line, okay?

01:14:21.000 Okay, I'll hang up.

01:14:22.000 I'll hang up.

01:14:22.000 Okay, yeah, they got Tinker Toys up there at the network.

01:14:24.000 So what do you mean by this usually happens when you have a big guest?

01:14:27.000 Do you think this is like the government, man?

01:14:29.000 No, I don't think so.

01:14:30.000 I mean, here's an example.

01:14:31.000 Happens probably five, six times a year.

01:14:33.000 I had...

01:14:36.000 Last week I had Jesse Ventura back on for a second time, and for five minutes the phone company over on ISDN line, where it's supposedly impossible, we have a recording of it, was saying hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, in my ear, over the end here.

01:14:50.000 They couldn't hear it on the network end, it was only on one half the ISDN line, but we got it recorded here.

01:14:55.000 No, it's Murphy's Law.

01:14:55.000 So I don't know.

01:14:57.000 Huh.

01:14:58.000 I mean, I guess you only have a blowout when you're on a mountain road by a cliff where it'll kill you.

01:15:02.000 But you won't have one going down a pretty sunny lane.

01:15:05.000 I mean, hell, I don't know, man.

01:15:07.000 I just know it completely drives me up the wall.

01:15:09.000 It's amazing that this works at all.

01:15:11.000 I mean, it's amazing that I'm on a cordless phone talking to you and you're streaming it live over the internet.

01:15:15.000 How crazy is that?

01:15:16.000 It goes on radio, it's in the air, people pick it up in their cars when they're driving.

01:15:20.000 That's nuts.

01:15:21.000 I mean, almost in real time.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, the network also has like $5 boards.

01:15:26.000 Specials Ted got at a garage sale or something.

01:15:28.000 I think from East German origin.

01:15:30.000 I'm joking.

01:15:31.000 I'm joking.

01:15:32.000 It just drives me up the wall.

01:15:34.000 But... I guess people who are listening are saying that they're hearing an echo on my message board.

01:15:40.000 People keep saying, fix the echo.

01:15:42.000 There's an echo.

01:15:44.000 Really?

01:15:45.000 I'm not hearing that.

01:15:46.000 I don't hear it either, but I'm just, you know, on a phone.

01:15:51.000 Yeah, well we've got actually the radio feed off a local radio station out there.

01:15:54.000 It's not echoing.

01:15:55.000 God only knows what's going on.

01:15:56.000 Who knows anymore, Joe?

01:15:58.000 God only knows.

01:16:00.000 Getting back to what you were saying earlier, this is a pretty bold book for this guy to write.

01:16:06.000 I mean, to come out and say this.

01:16:08.000 It sounds like a really bold book.

01:16:09.000 I mean, I think a lot of people write books saying that, you know, that they think that, you know, he should be... I mean, a lot of people could write books saying that they think that he should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity or war crimes.

01:16:23.000 But is that possible that he could be brought in?

01:16:25.000 I mean, I know a lot of people share the belief, but is it physically possible?

01:16:29.000 Could you ever imagine a president going to jail Or at least going to court and being brought up on charges of his actions causing the unlawful death of other humans.

01:16:42.000 Could you see that being possible?

01:16:43.000 We'd have to become so enlightened as a culture, we'd have to move so far beyond where we are now to actually bring this guy in front of a jury?

01:16:53.000 Is that possible?

01:16:55.000 Well, we need to reclaim the name of this country.

01:16:58.000 We have a really bad name worldwide now, Joe.

01:17:00.000 Oh, for sure.

01:17:01.000 We had a great name when 9-11 happened.

01:17:04.000 We had all these people all over the world that felt sorry.

01:17:10.000 Even in France, there was something in the paper that said something about, today we're all American.

01:17:16.000 I mean, that's a pretty amazing thought, that, you know, this horrible tragedy linked all these human beings together and we all felt sympathy for each other, and that somehow or another over the past seven years, that sympathy has been completely eroded.

01:17:30.000 Completely.

01:17:31.000 Let's go back to the opposite.

01:17:32.000 Well, I agree.

01:17:33.000 Let's go back to Vincente Migliosi, who's got the new book out, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

01:17:38.000 Is the echo gone now, sir?

01:17:40.000 No, it's okay now, and I appreciate it.

01:17:45.000 The law is very, very, very clear.

01:17:47.000 It goes back to the Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton, 1787, that once a president leaves office, he can be prosecuted for any crime he committed while he was in office.

01:17:58.000 And I was talking about Nixon.

01:18:00.000 There was a movement, a strong movement in America, after he resigned, to prosecute him for crimes like obstruction of justice and wiretapping and subordination to perjury.

01:18:08.000 That was all obviated when President Ford granted him a pardon, so there's no question that he has no immunity from prosecution.

01:18:15.000 Now, on the other question of the likelihood of this happening, I'll be candid with you.

01:18:21.000 I do not believe there's a high probability of this, but I definitely believe there's a substantial possibility that George Bush will, in fact, be prosecuted for murder as a direct result of this book, and the main reason I say this

01:18:37.000 is because of the great number of prosecutors in america i've established jurisdiction for in my book i've spent well over a hundred hours in the law library working on this uh... jurisdiction issue he can be prosecuted for the crimes of murder and conspiracy to commit murder under both federal and state law federally the prosecutor would only be the uh... u s attorney general in washington dc acting through his department justice but on a state level on a state level

01:19:03.000 I've established jurisdiction for the Attorney General in each of the 50 states, plus the hundreds upon hundreds of district attorneys in counties within these states, to prosecute Bush for the murder of any soldier or soldiers from their state or county who died in Iraq fighting Bush's war.

01:19:24.000 With all of these prosecutors, it could number close to a thousand prosecutors.

01:19:29.000 And with all of the very powerful evidence of Bush's guilt that I present in my book, it's not unreasonable to believe, Alex, that at least one prosecutor in America, maybe many more, will be courageous enough to say, hey, this is the United States of America, no man is above the law, the evidence of George Bush's guilt is clear, so I'm going to go after him and bring about justice for the American people.

01:19:52.000 Stay there, sir.

01:19:53.000 Joe Rogan, stay there as well.

01:19:54.000 The new book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

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01:24:15.000 Nutballs.

01:24:17.000 He's written a bunch of best-selling books.

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01:24:20.000 I want to get him back on sometime about his JFK info, because I actually disagree with him on that, but he's written the magnum opus on it.

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01:24:27.000 So we'll let him come on and school us about that in the near future if he'll grace us.

01:24:31.000 Quick segment now.

01:24:32.000 I apologize to him about technical problems.

01:24:34.000 Joe Rogan riding a shotgun.

01:24:35.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:24:36.000 Right now, get into why you think Bush is guilty and needs to be prosecuted for murder.

01:24:41.000 Tell us why.

01:24:41.000 Okay, without getting into the legal complexities of malice aforethought and vicarious liability, which would be very dry and arcane, I can tell you that if Bush were prosecuted for murder, the central overriding question would be, did he take this nation to war in self-defense?

01:24:59.000 If so, it's called justifiable homicide.

01:25:03.000 He claims that he took the nation to war in self-defense, his so-called preemptive strike.

01:25:09.000 If it came out at the trial, however, that he did not take the nation to war in self-defense, but he took the nation to war under false pretenses, then all of the killings in Iraq of American soldiers would be unlawful killings.

01:25:23.000 And being unlawful killings, it would be murder.

01:25:25.000 Let me just talk to you about some of the evidence.

01:25:27.000 If we have time, we can get into more.

01:25:29.000 But I think what I'm going to be telling you is going to be astonishing to you.

01:25:32.000 It'll take a little time, but let me explain it to you.

01:25:35.000 In George Bush's first speech to the nation, Alex, on Hussein in Iraq, October 7, 2002, Cincinnati, Ohio, he told Americans that Hussein was a great danger to America, either by Hussein attacking us with weapons of mass destruction or giving these weapons to some terrorist group to do so.

01:25:58.000 And he said that this attack could happen, quote, on any given day, unquote, meaning that the threat ...was imminent.

01:26:07.000 The only big problem for George Bush, and I don't know how he would get around this at the trial, is that on October the 1st, 2002, six days earlier, the CIA sent George Bush its 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, a top-secret, classified report representing the consensus opinion of all 16 U.S.

01:26:32.000 intelligence agencies On the issue of whether Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country.

01:26:38.000 And on page 8 of that report, it clearly and unequivocally says, and what I'm about to tell you, to my knowledge, to my knowledge, has never appeared before in any American newspaper, any major American paper or magazine.

01:26:54.000 Page 8 clearly says Hussein was not an imminent threat to the security of this country, He would only be a threat if he feared that America was about to attack him.

01:27:06.000 In other words, he would only be a threat if he was forced to fight in self-defense.

01:27:11.000 Now, what we have here is this.

01:27:14.000 We know then, we're not thinking, we know that when Bush told the nation on the evening of October 7, 2002 that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, he was telling millions of unsuspecting Americans The exact opposite of what his own CIA was telling him.

01:27:33.000 I can tell you, Alex, that even if we had nothing else at all, and there's so much more, this alone shows that Bush took this nation to war on a lie.

01:27:43.000 And therefore, all the killings of American soldiers in Iraq were unlawful killings and murders.

01:27:47.000 But there's a key point there, sir.

01:27:48.000 I'd like you to elaborate on this and get Joe's comment, and we'll come back and get into more details.

01:27:52.000 We have plenty of time if you've got it.

01:27:54.000 That is, not only was there not a threat if they didn't attack, so he lied and created a false threat, but then by going in, he did create a threat in case Saddam had nerve gas or something, and so not only did he lie, but then he did put the United States in a threat.

01:28:10.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:28:12.000 Now, with respect to this national intelligence estimate, it gets worse, Alex.

01:28:16.000 It gets worse.

01:28:17.000 On October the 4th, just three days after the October 1st, 2002 classified report, Bush and his people had the CIA issue an unclassified summary version of the October 1st classified report so this could be released to the American people and Congress.

01:28:39.000 This unclassified version became known as the White Paper, and in this White Paper that was shown to Congress and the American people, the conclusion of 16 U.S.

01:28:50.000 intelligence agencies that Iraq was not an imminent threat to the security of this country was completely deleted.

01:28:58.000 From that white paper that was shown to the American people, every single one of those all-important words were taken out.

01:29:04.000 So then they falsified evidence.

01:29:06.000 Well, there's no question.

01:29:08.000 I mean, I've got the goods on them.

01:29:09.000 I mean, I'm not about, at this stage in my career, to bring a false case against George Bush.

01:29:13.000 Mr. Bugliosi, you talk about them being murderers, and they certainly are.

01:29:17.000 Aren't you worried about them coming after you?

01:29:20.000 Well, that's something I'd rather not talk about.

01:29:22.000 I don't want to put the thoughts in people's minds.

01:29:24.000 I've had death threats throughout the years in various cases that I've prosecuted for murder, but some people are concerned because What it is, is the right wing in this country, and I'm a moderate, but the right wing has terrified this country, and people are afraid to take on the right wing.

01:29:42.000 The right wing is not afraid of the left wing.

01:29:44.000 The left wing is terrified of the right wing.

01:29:45.000 Mr. Bugliosi, we're going to break, but I'm going to go ahead and skip this break.

01:29:48.000 We're going to keep talking to you right now.

01:29:49.000 Stay there.

01:29:53.000 Mr. Bugliosi, we're continuing on air right now.

01:29:56.000 I want to come back to the main audience and get more into the oven, but this is key points you're raising, and I'm aware of those points, and you're right.

01:30:02.000 The mainstream media has never really put two and two together for people.

01:30:06.000 Joe Rogan comments to Mr. Bugliosi.

01:30:10.000 It's all pretty shocking stuff.

01:30:13.000 How many people had to know that the CIA had completely different advice about going to war for Mr. Bush?

01:30:20.000 How many people are involved in this?

01:30:24.000 Are we live here?

01:30:25.000 Yes, sir, we are.

01:30:27.000 How many people know?

01:30:28.000 There's no way for me to know that.

01:30:29.000 The Bush administration knew it.

01:30:31.000 The Bush administration knew it, and of course the CIA knew it, and all 16 U.S.

01:30:35.000 intelligence agencies.

01:30:36.000 To my knowledge, as I say, to my knowledge, this has never appeared before in any major paper or magazine in America.

01:30:44.000 But how many people knew about it?

01:30:45.000 The Bush administration knew about it, the CIA and the other 16 intelligence agencies.

01:30:49.000 I don't know how well they knew about it.

01:30:50.000 And they just assumed that no one else would ever find out about it, or they just assumed that they were...

01:30:55.000 That it was impossible to prosecute them?

01:30:58.000 I cannot answer that question, but you gotta know that these people have enormous stratospheric arrogance.

01:31:04.000 They also know that the so-called liberal media is extremely weak.

01:31:09.000 Right now, as I'm talking to you, this book, it just came out, is literally being blacklisted by the American media.

01:31:17.000 As soon as they find out what the title is, they literally shrink.

01:31:21.000 I had a difficult time Getting this book published.

01:31:25.000 And you know, I'm someone who's had three books.

01:31:27.000 Number one, New York Times.

01:31:30.000 They were all excited that I was doing this book.

01:31:32.000 And when they found out what it was about, I had a very difficult time getting it published.

01:31:37.000 I finally got it published.

01:31:38.000 The audio for the book, I've always had audio for a book.

01:31:43.000 No American audio company would do it.

01:31:46.000 We got the British broadcasting company to do it.

01:31:51.000 There's a companion documentary for the big screen that's in progress right now based on my book.

01:31:58.000 They couldn't raise one dime in America.

01:32:00.000 A Canadian investor had to come through.

01:32:03.000 We're supposed to be the land of the brave, what do they call it, the land of the free, the home of the brave?

01:32:08.000 Not that way anymore in America.

01:32:13.000 This is 100% because people are avoiding it because they're scared, not because there's anyone out there that's disputing your evidence.

01:32:18.000 No, no, no, you can't dispute it.

01:32:22.000 Let me talk about another piece of evidence.

01:32:24.000 Well let me stop you Mr. Bugliosi because let me explain what's happening.

01:32:26.000 This is a large show and I'm sorry that you had some technical stuff earlier just so you understand.

01:32:31.000 It's also TV right now and so during the breaks and in the aggregate millions see this as well.

01:32:38.000 We continue as an internet show during the breaks when we're strapped for time.

01:32:43.000 The main audience with all the Eminem affiliates is coming back in 20 seconds, so you should recap that they're blackballing the book and then get into more of the evidence with people because I think that's a key point to make.

01:32:54.000 So we're going to go back live on the main transmission with you and, of course, Joe Rogan.

01:32:59.000 Stay with us.

01:32:59.000 with us.

01:33:00.000 Here we go.

01:33:03.000 Here we go.

01:33:21.000 A U.S. 0.66

01:33:22.000 company to do the audiobook.

01:33:23.000 He couldn't raise money when he always can to make this into a film.

01:33:27.000 He had a lot of trouble getting a U.S.

01:33:30.000 publisher.

01:33:31.000 They are very scared of this.

01:33:32.000 And I understand why.

01:33:33.000 The prosecution of George W. Bush for murder.

01:33:36.000 And sir, you've never had trouble getting in the media before.

01:33:38.000 You were telling me during the break, and you elaborate, that the mainstream media isn't touching this with a 10-foot pole.

01:33:44.000 They're just terrified!

01:33:45.000 Absolutely terrified!

01:33:46.000 I mean, I used to start out all my books on Good Morning America, the Today Show, I've been on TV hundreds of times, but when they hear this title, the prosecution of George W. Bush for murder, they say, well, you know, we can't get into that.

01:33:59.000 Publishers would say to me, Mr. Bugliosi, are you sure you want to publish this book?

01:34:04.000 And one put it in black and white, too hot to handle.

01:34:08.000 They're terrified of the right wing in this country.

01:34:12.000 They're terrified of these people.

01:34:13.000 They're terrified of the Rush Limbaugh's of the world.

01:34:16.000 I'm telling you that a shadow of fear has descended on this country and even though the publishers were very sympathetic with what I was saying and recognized the tremendous marketability of this thing, their fear trumped money.

01:34:32.000 But I'm going to get it out there.

01:34:33.000 I'm going to get it out there and the documentary people under my direction Are going to start reaching out very soon to the prosecutors of America to find a courageous American prosecutor to go against this guy George Bush.

01:34:46.000 He's gotten away with murder.

01:34:47.000 No one has done anything about it.

01:34:49.000 No one now wants to even talk about it.

01:34:51.000 That's why I'm happy to be on your show.

01:34:53.000 But the mainstream media is terrified.

01:34:55.000 They do not want to touch this book at all.

01:35:00.000 Joe Rogan had brought up earlier, when we were getting you back on the line, Mr. Bibliosi, that this has destroyed our name, this fraudulent war, these hundreds of thousands of dead, that we have to do something.

01:35:12.000 We have to at least speak out against it, because if we don't, it's all being done in our name.

01:35:16.000 And you talk about 100,000 dead.

01:35:18.000 The Lancet study and one other now have been confirmed over 600,000 dead.

01:35:23.000 Absolutely.

01:35:24.000 In fact, there's one poll that shows, one survey showed over a million.

01:35:27.000 I'm being very, very conservative when I say over 100,000.

01:35:31.000 Very, very conservative.

01:35:34.000 Mr. Guglielmi?

01:35:35.000 Yes?

01:35:36.000 Are you aware of the man who wrote that book, Fortunate Son?

01:35:40.000 J.H.

01:35:41.000 Hatfield?

01:35:42.000 No, what does that hold?

01:35:43.000 He was murdered and put in a bathtub.

01:35:45.000 I know you don't want to add to this, and I understand that.

01:35:48.000 I don't talk about the death threats I get, but it's one thing to get a threat from the Manson Cooks.

01:35:53.000 It's another thing to be going up against the new Adolf Hitler. 0.80

01:35:56.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:35:57.000 I feel that I don't have any choice.

01:35:59.000 People say how courageous and brave I am.

01:36:02.000 I'm not a brave, courageous person.

01:36:03.000 It's anger.

01:36:05.000 Every time I see George Bush with a big smile on his face, and I know that young American soldiers who never even had a chance to live out their dream are being blown to pieces by roadside bombs in Iraq, and this guy here, and the evidence is overwhelming, in my book, I have a whole chapter on it, this guy here, while all this horror was taking place, had fun Had fun and lived life to the fullest.

01:36:31.000 I'm talking about running, bicycling, joking with friends, laughing back.

01:36:35.000 No, no, let me stop you, let me stop you.

01:36:36.000 And I mean, Joe's going to throw something in, but I totally agree.

01:36:38.000 He lied and said he hadn't played golf since the war started.

01:36:41.000 Then mainstream news admitted hundreds of times videoed playing golf.

01:36:44.000 It's just constant lying.

01:36:46.000 Yeah.

01:36:47.000 They admit he takes a two-hour nap.

01:36:48.000 He exercises for three hours a day.

01:36:51.000 None of us can do that.

01:36:52.000 I mean, this guy lives the life of some type of little tart or something.

01:36:56.000 Joe, you were going to say something?

01:37:00.000 First of all, I saw the thing about golfing.

01:37:02.000 That was pretty shocking, that he would lie about that.

01:37:05.000 I mean, he must know so little about this age of information, how quickly they can research something like that.

01:37:13.000 He's in Crawford, Texas in 2005, August 13th.

01:37:17.000 He's bicycling and telling reporters this is a slice of heaven.

01:37:21.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.

01:37:24.000 This guy has enjoyed himself throughout this whole war.

01:37:27.000 You don't have to take my word for it.

01:37:28.000 Bush himself has told people how much he's enjoyed life throughout the entire period of this war.

01:37:37.000 Let me give you a couple quotes.

01:37:39.000 Well, hold on.

01:37:39.000 What about his mother?

01:37:41.000 She's asking about all the dead.

01:37:42.000 Yeah, that sweet, sensitive mother. 1.00

01:37:44.000 Well, she said, why should I care about body bags and dead troops?

01:37:47.000 Why should I think about that with my beautiful mind?

01:37:50.000 Of course, yeah.

01:37:52.000 That's all in my book.

01:37:53.000 I'm going to give you some quotes from this guy, and while I give you these quotes, I want you to try to imagine in your wildest imagination Roosevelt and Truman and LBJ and Nixon during their respective wars saying things like this.

01:38:06.000 This is George Bush.

01:38:08.000 Right in the middle of this hellish conflict that he created in Iraq with young kids coming home in an aluminum box, and the parents are told, don't open it up because the contents are unviewable. 0.82

01:38:19.000 Here's George Bush.

01:38:21.000 Laura and I are having the time of our life.

01:38:26.000 I'm in a great mood.

01:38:27.000 It's going to be a perfect day.

01:38:29.000 I'm feeling pretty good about life.

01:38:32.000 This guy has enjoyed himself throughout the whole period of this war.

01:38:35.000 He's unbelievable.

01:38:37.000 He hears reports that eight American soldiers are blown to pieces by roadside bombs in Iraq, and the very next day he's on a street stage in Tbilisi, Russia, swiveling his hips like Elvis to blaring Uh, folk music.

01:38:52.000 He has not suffered one day, and I want to put a thought in his mind that he's going to take with him to his grave, that someone may tap him on the shoulder after he leaves office and say, Mr. President, there's some prosecutor up in Fargo, North Dakota.

01:39:05.000 We're due up there Wednesday morning, 9 o'clock.

01:39:08.000 He's charging you with murder.

01:39:10.000 There's no statute of limitations for murder.

01:39:12.000 And there's hundreds of prosecutors out there that could bring this action against him, and I want to bring this guy to justice.

01:39:18.000 Well, remember Clinton, that grand jury made him testify.

01:39:22.000 Sure, go ahead, Joe. 0.87

01:39:24.000 For the legally ignorant like myself, so any prosecutor from any state can bring up these charges against the former president. 0.80

01:39:34.000 I've established that, yes, as long as a soldier from their state or county died fighting George Bush's war. 0.89

01:39:43.000 It gets into the issue of overt acts.

01:39:45.000 And that shows cause.

01:39:48.000 That shows cause and shows you've been hurt, showing the corpse, right?

01:39:52.000 It's showing how you were individually hurt.

01:39:54.000 Well, here's what it is, and we're getting into detail here.

01:39:59.000 He can be prosecuted for two crimes, murder and conspiracy to commit murder.

01:40:03.000 The heart of conspiracy to commit murder is an agreement, and obviously there was an agreement back here to take this nation to war.

01:40:10.000 That's back in Washington, D.C.

01:40:11.000 However, The agreement is not enough to make a conspiracy.

01:40:14.000 There's got to be an overt act committed to further the object of the conspiracy.

01:40:20.000 Then they put out fake data.

01:40:21.000 Pardon?

01:40:22.000 Then they put out fake data.

01:40:23.000 That's that.

01:40:23.000 Okay.

01:40:24.000 The two overt acts here that were committed in all 50 states is the lies that George Bush told in Washington, D.C., Cincinnati, That by way of radio and television went into the homes and cars of every state of this union.

01:40:37.000 That's an overt act.

01:40:37.000 The other overt act is recruiting soldiers from the 50 states to fight his bogus war.

01:40:44.000 Once an overt act has been committed in a state, that state has jurisdiction to prosecute for the conspiracy to commit murder.

01:40:51.000 Even if the agreement is in some other state.

01:40:53.000 The law is very clear on this.

01:40:54.000 I've done my homework.

01:40:56.000 I go to court, and I'm prepared.

01:40:59.000 So they have jurisdiction.

01:41:00.000 Now once they have jurisdiction for the conspiracy to commit murder, then all murders that were committed pursuant to that conspiracy, the state also has jurisdiction to prosecute for those murders.

01:41:12.000 I want to get into another one.

01:41:13.000 Individual acts.

01:41:14.000 Meaning that if he's exonerated for any one of them by the future president, if the future president decides to absolve him, He still, I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of individual cases you could try him on.

01:41:26.000 No, no, no.

01:41:30.000 If the succeeding president were to pardon him, he could not be prosecuted.

01:41:34.000 If he were pardoned, he could not be prosecuted.

01:41:36.000 Just like... No, it's not like it's a bunch of different acts.

01:41:39.000 If the next president pardons him...

01:41:42.000 He pardoned him for it.

01:41:44.000 But we've never had a pardon, have we, for a bogus war.

01:41:47.000 No, no, no.

01:41:48.000 This is the first time.

01:41:49.000 We've been in existence for close to 300 centuries.

01:41:52.000 No American president would ever dream, would ever dream of taking this nation to war under false pretenses.

01:41:59.000 This guy is an aberration.

01:42:01.000 He's a grotesque anomaly. 0.96

01:42:03.000 Let's hope we never have another one like him.

01:42:06.000 I want to talk about one other piece of evidence, and there's so much more in my book.

01:42:10.000 January the 31st, 2003, close to two months before Bush invaded Iraq.

01:42:20.000 Bush and Tony Blair, British Prime Minister, meet in the Oval Office with six of their aides, one of whom was Blair's chief foreign policy advisor, David Manning.

01:42:33.000 Is this the White House memo where he talks about painting a U.S.

01:42:36.000 plane up like a U.N.?

01:42:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:38.000 That's in my film, Terror Storm.

01:42:39.000 And that's what you read about, that I wrote about, yes.

01:42:43.000 What is he trying to do?

01:42:44.000 Here's what happened.

01:42:46.000 Manning wrote in the memo, in the memo, and he wrote it the very, very same day.

01:42:51.000 It was a five-page memo stamped, extremely sensitive, that during the meeting, Bush and Blair expressed their doubt that any weapons of mass destruction would ever be found in Iraq.

01:43:04.000 Now, this is two months before he goes to war, claiming that there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

01:43:09.000 But here's where it gets even worse than that.

01:43:12.000 Manning wrote that Bush was so worried and so upset over the fact that UN inspectors had not found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that he talked about, quote, provoking a confrontation with Hussein.

01:43:31.000 Three possible ways of doing it, one of which, as you indicated, Alex, Was to fly U-2 aircraft over Iraq, falsely painted in United Nations colors, and Bush said, if Hussein fires on this aircraft, it would be a violation of U.N.

01:43:46.000 resolutions and would justify war.

01:43:48.000 But that would mean that he thought the U.N.

01:43:50.000 was going to go along with that line.

01:43:53.000 Well, no, no, no, no.

01:43:54.000 He's not talking about the U.N.

01:43:56.000 doing it.

01:43:57.000 No, no, the U.S.

01:43:57.000 doing it.

01:43:58.000 I understand.

01:43:59.000 Anyway, here we have George Bush telling Americans, telling the world, That Hussein is an imminent threat to the security of this country, and we have to strike first in self-defense.

01:44:11.000 And they're trying to provocateur.

01:44:12.000 But behind closed doors, this small man is talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war.

01:44:20.000 The very last person in the world that someone acting in self-defense would try to provoke is the person they're in deathly fear of.

01:44:27.000 The person who's about to kill them.

01:44:29.000 And isn't that, as a prosecutor, key to show that he consciously, premeditatedly knew he was fixing intelligence around it and trying to provocateur, as the White House memo says, the Downing Street memo says, fixing intelligence around it.

01:44:43.000 So that shows that they knew they were lying and it was a fraud.

01:44:46.000 Absolutely.

01:44:47.000 That's the Downing Street memo.

01:44:48.000 But I'm talking about the Manning memo.

01:44:50.000 No, the White House memo.

01:44:52.000 The Downing Street memo Is that we decided to go to war, now let's fix the facts to justify the war that we already want.

01:44:59.000 The Manning Street Memo, we got George Bush talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war.

01:45:05.000 If he felt that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, the thought of provoking Hussein into a war would never, ever, ever have entered his mind.

01:45:13.000 We're talking about bad people here now.

01:45:16.000 And they've gotten by with it because of the incredibly inept and spineless media.

01:45:21.000 We're talking about media who are literally physiological marvels.

01:45:26.000 They're able to sit erect in front of a camera without having a spine.

01:45:30.000 I'm talking about the Charlie Roses of the world and the George Stephanopoulos.

01:45:34.000 But I'm not going to let this guy get by with it if I can prevent it.

01:45:37.000 Okay, Joe Rogan, any questions or comments?

01:45:41.000 Here's a question.

01:45:43.000 Would other people have to be prosecuted as well?

01:45:45.000 Would the Senate have to be prosecuted?

01:45:47.000 I mean, if you prosecuted George Bush for these crimes, would other people have to be brought in?

01:45:52.000 Well, they would not have to be, but they would.

01:45:54.000 Undoubtedly, Bush conspired with these people.

01:45:56.000 He didn't take the nation to war all by himself.

01:45:58.000 There's no question that Cheney and Rice are involved, probably Rove.

01:46:03.000 The Office of Special Plans that created a special intelligence unit to make stuff up?

01:46:03.000 They'd all be prosecuted.

01:46:09.000 Yeah, I'm talking about Fyfe's group.

01:46:11.000 Here we got 16 authorized U.S.

01:46:14.000 intelligence agencies, but then they wanted their own bought and paid for agencies, so they have this guy, Fyfe, who's working in the Department of Defense, has no experience whatsoever in intelligence, and this rogue group, on its own, is trying to feed Bush exactly what Bush wants to hear.

01:46:30.000 But, Brownie, you're doing a hell of a job. 1.00

01:46:33.000 Pardon?

01:46:34.000 Member Brownie, you're doing a hell of a job.

01:46:37.000 What do you believe is going to happen if the Democrats win?

01:46:41.000 Is that going to make any difference?

01:46:44.000 Is that going to change the climate of possible prosecution?

01:46:47.000 Well, you see, on a federal level, let me explain to you.

01:46:51.000 On a federal level, there's really only one prosecutor who could bring these charges.

01:46:55.000 That's U.S. 0.99

01:46:55.000 Attorney General Washington D.C. 0.99

01:46:57.000 Now, there are 93 U.S.

01:46:59.000 attorneys throughout the entire country.

01:47:02.000 And theoretically, they could bring the charge also.

01:47:04.000 But as a practical matter, it's very, very unlikely that they would go against Bush without the consent of their boss, the Attorney General of Washington, D.C.

01:47:11.000 So from a realistic standpoint, on a federal level, we're only talking about one prosecutor, the U.S.

01:47:18.000 Attorney General of Washington, D.C.

01:47:20.000 But on a state level, we're talking about 50 Attorney Generals throughout the country, plus the district attorneys, In counties within those states.

01:47:29.000 And I say that it's not unreasonable at all to believe that there's one guy out there, at least one guy, that's going to be courageous enough to step forward and say, I'm going to go after him.

01:47:36.000 I'm going to go after him.

01:47:38.000 I think you're making sense.

01:47:39.000 I think that is possible.

01:47:40.000 What I'm saying is, do you believe that in the wake of a Democratic election, if the Democrats win, Do you think that it's possible that people will start looking at this war, at this presidency, looking at it more clearly?

01:47:55.000 Yeah, does that increase the chances of... No, I think that after, and it's just speculation, people are concerned about what the Dodgers are doing or the Yankees, their memory.

01:48:09.000 It's as permanent as a breath upon the air.

01:48:11.000 Well, look what Bush did for Pardongate with Clinton.

01:48:15.000 He called Congressman Burton's committee and said, drop your investigation, let's just start anew.

01:48:20.000 So there's this tendency to cover up the crimes of the last administration by the new one, because they want to get their back scratched when they leave in four to eight years.

01:48:28.000 Absolutely.

01:48:29.000 I think the likelihood of a prosecution here is going to be on a state and local level.

01:48:33.000 I don't have any confidence in any Democratic President instructing his Attorney General to bring charges against Bush.

01:48:41.000 He's going to probably be catering to the right wing.

01:48:44.000 They're all catered to the right wing, but they don't realize that the only way you can cater to the right wing is to change your registration.

01:48:51.000 And by the way, I want to say this very, very clearly to your audience.

01:48:55.000 Because there's been some suggestion that this is politically motivated.

01:49:00.000 I've been a lifetime Democrat only because I am always for the little guy, and unless there's some compelling reason to be otherwise, I'm for the little guy.

01:49:10.000 But my political orientation is not rigid.

01:49:12.000 I supported McCain's run for presidency in 2000.

01:49:16.000 And in my professional career, whether I'm prosecuted a murderer, Well, whether I'm writing a true crime book, credibility has always meant everything to me.

01:49:26.000 Well, Vincent Bugliosi, we understand this isn't left or right, and we understand this is a conservative-slash-libertarian show, so we don't really get into the whole left-right paradigm.

01:49:34.000 I would love to invite you back on to get into a part two of this book in the next month or so, sir.

01:49:39.000 I'd appreciate it.

01:49:40.000 Yes, sir, and I'd also like to talk about your new JFK book that you've got out that's a thousand-something pages.

01:49:47.000 It's more than that.

01:49:48.000 It's the equivalent of 13 volumes of 400-page books.

01:49:52.000 It's already come out.

01:49:53.000 It's already come out.

01:49:54.000 And it just won the Edgar Allan Poe Award for the best true crime book of the year.

01:49:58.000 I was in New York City last year.

01:50:00.000 How long is it really?

01:50:01.000 I read it was like 1,500 pages.

01:50:03.000 Well, the main text is 1,630 pages or something, but then there's a CD-ROM attached to it of another 1,000 pages.

01:50:11.000 So it's 3,400 pages.

01:50:14.000 It's the book on the case and review after review saying it's a book for the ages.

01:50:18.000 Scott Turow said centuries from now people are going to be reading this book.

01:50:22.000 And as I say, Tom Hanks and his people are doing a 10-hour miniseries on it.

01:50:25.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

01:50:25.000 Mr. Bugliosi thinks he has the proof that it was a lone guy that did it, and I can't wait to have him on to talk about it.

01:50:31.000 I'd love to be on the show!

01:50:33.000 Well, sir, I like you guys.

01:50:34.000 I like you guys.

01:50:35.000 Listen, there's no time like the present.

01:50:38.000 How about I set you up in a week or two to come on and talk about it?

01:50:42.000 Okay, the only problem there is that I may be... I have a heavy schedule right now, so I'll give you a phone number.

01:50:48.000 Call Sandy Mendelson, 212... Hold on, let's not give her number out on air, sir.

01:50:52.000 You're in the break.

01:50:53.000 Let me talk to you right now.

01:50:54.000 Okay.

01:50:54.000 Okay, stay there, sir.

01:50:56.000 It is a big...

01:51:04.000 Well, sir, I like you guys.

01:51:07.000 I like you guys.

01:51:08.000 Stand-up guys.

01:51:09.000 There's no time like the present.

01:51:11.000 How about I set you up in a week or two to come on and talk about it?

01:51:14.000 Okay, the only problem there is that I may be... I have a heavy schedule right now, so I'll give you a phone number.

01:51:20.000 Call Sandy Mendelson.

01:51:22.000 Hold on, let's not give her number out on air, sir.

01:51:24.000 You're in the break.

01:51:25.000 Let me talk to you right now.

01:51:26.000 Okay, stay there, sir.

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01:54:03.000 Well, we've had Joe for about an hour and 50 minutes.

01:54:18.000 He's agreed to stay with us until near the end of the next hour.

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01:54:50.000 The man, Joe Rogan, joerogan.net.

01:54:53.000 Of course, news radio star, star of Fear Factor, star of a new big CBS show coming out that's top secret, he can't talk about it.

01:55:00.000 Internationally known, a top comedian.

01:55:04.000 Just an amazing individual.

01:55:05.000 Joe, it has been real fun having you on, and I tell you, I'm glad that Off-Air you've agreed to come on every few months, because I really look forward to it.

01:55:14.000 Well, the last time I was on was, like, September 11th, I think.

01:55:17.000 Yeah, we had quantified on air!

01:55:20.000 Yeah, well, you know, I just thought you were jumping to conclusions about it.

01:55:24.000 And who knows, like I said, as time changes, the more, you know, you look at events of the past, the more I look at what's going on in the present, the more I think, wow, I mean, how crazy is reality?

01:55:36.000 You know, what is actually possible?

01:55:38.000 How much actually has been conspired?

01:55:40.000 I mean, how crazy would it be if it really was a gigantic conspiracy, and if Alex Jones is 100% right?

01:55:48.000 I mean, here's an example.

01:55:48.000 Well, I wish I wasn't.

01:55:50.000 I read in government biology reports, because I'm a weirdo, I read stuff like that, in 1998 that there were half-human, half-cow creatures being grown in South Korea, in cows, for harvesting their DNA.

01:56:03.000 Now, that finally hit the BBC two weeks ago.

01:56:06.000 I think that's, I always said that if they're telling you that they can clone people, the guy telling you might be a clone.

01:56:14.000 Exactly.

01:56:14.000 By the time it gets to us, by the time that information gets to the general public, it's more, it's different now because of the internet.

01:56:22.000 The internet things just get out.

01:56:24.000 But, you know, like decades ago, come on, nothing got out.

01:56:28.000 If they wanted to hide something, that's what people don't understand.

01:56:32.000 When people look at, like, hiding things and conspiracies, they look at, like, a possible conspiracy, like, how difficult it would be to do in 2008.

01:56:39.000 I mean, we compare it to the context that we think about it in is our life now, in the age of information.

01:56:47.000 But this is so recent.

01:56:50.000 So recent!

01:56:51.000 Just a decade ago, just ten years, just a few thousand days.

01:56:57.000 No one had this kind of access to information.

01:56:59.000 We're googling things in your iPhone and the high-speed internet everywhere virtually and Wi-Fi and so many different places.

01:57:09.000 Well Joe, a lot of... This is a different world we live in.

01:57:11.000 You're right, a lot of professors and...

01:57:13.000 Information technology experts and security experts, people I've talked to, say that the establishment is still run by like 70, 80, 90 year old men and they thought they could carry out a 9-11 like they did with JFK and be able to cover it up and control the info.

01:57:27.000 They didn't even realize, even though they had think tanks telling them, that things have changed today, but they're still able to suppress a lot of the different secret aircraft they had, like the SR-71, Uh, it was in service in the early fifties, wasn't declassified until the seventies.

01:57:42.000 Uh, in 1970 they already had the B-2 bomber out.

01:57:45.000 It wasn't declassified until 87.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, now that stuff was easy back then.

01:57:49.000 It's so much more difficult now with Google Earth and all this different stuff.

01:57:53.000 I mean, Google Earth, you could go look at Area 51.

01:57:55.000 You know, how crazy is that?

01:57:57.000 You could look at it.

01:57:58.000 I mean, there's images of it online.

01:58:01.000 There's pictures of it now.

01:58:02.000 I mean, who knows if that's even a functional area anymore.

01:58:04.000 But for the longest time, that was a legitimate, secret military base in the middle of the desert.

01:58:10.000 Joe Rogan.

01:58:11.000 JoeRogan.net's the website.

01:58:13.000 InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com are my websites.

01:58:15.000 Joe, stay there.

01:58:16.000 Back in 70 seconds.

01:58:19.000 What do you want to talk about when we get back?

01:58:19.000 You got the floor.

01:58:21.000 Oh, whatever you want to talk about, man.

01:58:23.000 I'm down with everything.

01:58:24.000 We can get more into DMT and dreaming and which consciousness is more real or is it two separate equally real consciousnesses.

01:58:31.000 And we'll also take phone calls at 1-800-259-9231 or 888-201-2244.

01:58:33.000 We'll be right back with Joe Rogan.

01:58:35.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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02:00:01.000 I have a rule. - Oh my God.

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02:00:44.000 Will in Philly disagrees.

02:00:45.000 His call is coming up after the break.

02:00:47.000 But Joe, there is so much to discuss, so much going on.

02:00:51.000 Going back to a discussion we were having 45 minutes ago, DMT, which is a naturally occurring chemical in the brain associated with dreaming, associated with these out-of-body experiences, because I've read up on it as well, And I was telling the story, and folks, the government believes this.

02:01:06.000 We're going to get General Stubblebine, a three-star general, back on.

02:01:09.000 We're lining him up, because George Clooney's making a movie about him with the writer that wrote a book about me in Bohemian Grove, John Ronson.

02:01:16.000 Jack Black's making a movie about that, making fun of me and others, called Them.

02:01:20.000 But this is a separate book, The Men Who Stare at Goats.

02:01:22.000 And I've had Stubblebine on, and he believes that he can astrally project.

02:01:26.000 This is a former special forces commander of all special forces.

02:01:30.000 They train the special forces to do this.

02:01:31.000 I've had special forces on the show.

02:01:34.000 I never get into weird stuff like that, except that the government believes it, and they've experimented with DMT and other hallucinogens and other chemicals that are naturally in the body, or things that trigger those natural things.

02:01:44.000 That's all drugs do, is trigger other things in your body.

02:01:47.000 You know me, I'm a teetotaler, folks.

02:01:49.000 Joe knows that too because I'm on my own drugs, my own endorphins.

02:01:52.000 Every day is a trip for me, being alive in this incredible reality.

02:01:56.000 But I've had many dreams, and I don't talk about most of my dreams, kind of like that Fleetwood Mac, the crystal visions.

02:02:03.000 I keep my visions to myself.

02:02:04.000 But over and over again, I've had a dream, say, when I'm 10, about on a golf course in front of my parents' house, they're going to build a house there and...

02:02:13.000 And, you know, I pictured myself walking in, looking out at, you know, at a window at night, and I would have the dream recurring.

02:02:19.000 Then years later, they built a house there, and me and friends as teenagers went in and looked out that very window on that golf course, and a dog I saw in the dream run across the golf course, came running across.

02:02:29.000 It was the exact same thing.

02:02:31.000 This wasn't like deja vu, where I told people about this dream.

02:02:35.000 But I've had dreams where I was mugged in the very guy, the very shirt, and these dreams are always very upsetting is how I know it's real and going to come true. 1.00

02:02:43.000 But Joe wanted to get back into that with DMT experiences.

02:02:46.000 Joe?

02:02:47.000 Well, first of all, the Army Research Group has known about DMT since the 60s.

02:02:53.000 The way Terence McKenna found out about DMT is he had a friend who was a scientist who was working for the Army Research Group, and this guy brought home some DMT.

02:03:04.000 And he gave it to Terrence to try.

02:03:08.000 And it was...

02:03:10.000 Something that they were experimenting with.

02:03:12.000 They were trying to figure out what it is.

02:03:14.000 So they've known about it for a long time.

02:03:15.000 The fact that they've been able to keep this under wraps is really crazy.

02:03:20.000 The fact that they've been able to keep this substance a secret.

02:03:22.000 I mean, if it was a plot in a movie, you would never believe that they'd be able to keep this a secret.

02:03:27.000 If there was a plot in a movie, and in the movie there was a powder that existed, this substance, this compound, that existed in almost everything, It exists in all these different kinds of plants, and people make it in their own bodies, and this substance allows you to have, essentially, an experience where you're communicating with something above reality, something above You, whether it's a god, or whether it's angels, or whether it's some sort of an inter-dimensional intelligence.

02:03:57.000 But that's it, Joe!

02:03:58.000 I'm a pretty secular, mainline guy.

02:04:00.000 I'm not, I'll tell you, I've had experiences I won't say on air, because they'd make fun of me, and a lot more bizarre than that.

02:04:07.000 And I mean, this stuff is real.

02:04:08.000 I told people, man, I had this upsetting dream, it's like those dreams I have that come true. 1.00

02:04:14.000 I told people about it, and then it happened.

02:04:16.000 Well, Alex, I don't think it's crazy.

02:04:17.000 What I'm saying is that we only think it's crazy because we can't do it every day.

02:04:23.000 But if you think about the things that we can do every day, just this.

02:04:27.000 Look at what we're doing right here.

02:04:28.000 Is being able to predict an event any crazier than the idea that you and I are communicating right now in real time?

02:04:35.000 Through the air, across the world.

02:04:37.000 I mean, that's nuts!

02:04:38.000 No, you're in LA, I'm in Austin, the network's in Minnesota, the satellites are going around the Earth.

02:04:44.000 Yeah, the ability to predict the future is no crazier than that.

02:04:48.000 That's just as crazy.

02:04:49.000 It's just the ability to predict the future, the ability to see reality from other angles.

02:04:53.000 Well, that's what... With rich premonitions.

02:04:55.000 All that stuff is just, we just can't do it all the time.

02:04:58.000 Stay there, we're gonna talk behind the scenes right now.

02:05:00.000 Here we go.

02:05:03.000 Sorry to interrupt, Joe. 0.98

02:05:04.000 You know about these dumb ads you're on TV and everything else. 0.93

02:05:06.000 Yeah, they're cool, man. 0.97

02:05:08.000 Well, they're great ads, actually.

02:05:08.000 It's how we operate.

02:05:09.000 You know what I mean?

02:05:10.000 Absolutely.

02:05:10.000 I hear you, buddy.

02:05:11.000 No, I mean, you're absolutely right about... I mean, magic.

02:05:15.000 It's what Arthur C. Clarke said.

02:05:16.000 He said, a hundred years ago, the technologies we have now would have been indistinguishable from magic.

02:05:22.000 Right.

02:05:22.000 Exactly.

02:05:23.000 Exactly.

02:05:24.000 Keep talking about it.

02:05:25.000 Go ahead.

02:05:25.000 Absolutely.

02:05:27.000 Let's talk about it now because we're on the internet, right?

02:05:29.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:05:30.000 I want to just continue because the ad cut you off, but let's just continue because this will be much bigger later on the web itself.

02:05:36.000 Well, it's very possible that there's an infinite number of things that we can't perceive.

02:05:42.000 And the way I describe it is, and I want to talk about this, I would like to talk about this on the radio because it's a really big point, and the point is that there's a thing that I like to call the fart principle, and it's a goofy way of describing it.

02:05:54.000 Alright, well the fart principle is so key, let's talk about it after we come out to the main audience, but going back, judging some behind the scenes stuff, how's your life going?

02:06:03.000 Is Joe Rogan happy with life?

02:06:04.000 Joe Rogan's happy as can be, man.

02:06:06.000 Although I don't like talking about myself like that.

02:06:09.000 I'm doing the Roy Jones Jr.

02:06:11.000 talking about myself in the third person.

02:06:12.000 But no, I'm happy as can be, man.

02:06:14.000 You know what?

02:06:15.000 I think I just try to live my life and have as much fun as possible, be as nice to people as possible, have a bunch of good friends and good experiences, and pursue my interests.

02:06:24.000 And I think that if you do that, you're going to have a happy life.

02:06:27.000 I think that one of the keys to having a happy life is what we were talking about earlier when we were talking about the Illuminati and all these people in control of the world, that they can't possibly be happy because they're not being nice to people.

02:06:37.000 Oh no, none of them are!

02:06:38.000 No, they're miserable. 1.00

02:06:39.000 They've got to be miserable. 0.99

02:06:40.000 How could you not be?

02:06:41.000 You're causing hundreds of thousands of people to die unnecessary deaths and suffer and poor soldiers to come back from this horrible war and be disfigured and just ruined and have to struggle to get their medical benefits.

02:06:54.000 I mean, it's an amazing thing.

02:06:58.000 You'd have to be incredibly sick to live your life through that.

02:07:02.000 There's no way you could actually be happy doing what you're doing.

02:07:06.000 There's no way.

02:07:08.000 I mean, I think if there's anything that's going to save the world, it's that realization.

02:07:12.000 But then it goes back to what we were talking about before.

02:07:14.000 Is it possible to enlighten a psychopath?

02:07:18.000 Is it possible to enlighten a psychopath?

02:07:20.000 I think it is to show them that even if they're mentally don't care about others and are really sadistic psychopaths, the worst type, and you've got sociopaths, psychopaths, and sadistic sociopaths, to explain to them that tearing up the world ends up coming back on them.

02:07:36.000 Yeah, maybe, but they don't see it every day because I have a feeling that a lot of karma is how you feel about things.

02:07:42.000 And if you don't feel bad about what you're doing, I don't necessarily think it comes back to you.

02:07:48.000 It doesn't come back to you as much.

02:07:50.000 I mean, look at Bush.

02:07:50.000 That guy's old, man.

02:07:52.000 He's been around a long time. 0.93

02:07:53.000 He's been screwing over people forever. 0.56

02:07:54.000 But he's fine.

02:07:55.000 Look at his dad, Herbert Walker Bush.

02:07:57.000 He's fine, too.

02:07:58.000 Nothing wrong with him.

02:07:59.000 He's like a normal old dude.

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02:08:53.000 Look, I know I've got Twenty-something phone calls here.

02:08:56.000 The phone system is completely filled up, which it always does.

02:08:59.000 I don't know how we're going to get to everybody, but we'll go to those in a few minutes with Joe Rogan.

02:09:03.000 I don't want to burn him out coming on the show, but I'm really enjoying this.

02:09:06.000 I want to have him back up soon.

02:09:07.000 He's already been with us two hours.

02:09:08.000 Joe, we were talking in the behind-the-scenes.

02:09:11.000 You said what you call the fart principle, excuse your French, is so important that you wanted to say it to the full audience.

02:09:17.000 So tell us about the...

02:09:20.000 Well, this is what it means.

02:09:23.000 It's a silly name, but the reason why I call it that is because the idea behind it is if you look at reality and how you perceive reality, we look through our eyes, we smell through our nose, we hear things, Well, if somebody farted around you and you couldn't smell, if you didn't hear it, you'd have no idea that anything was going on.

02:09:45.000 If you didn't have a sense of smell, there'd be something invisible that you would not be able to detect, and you'd be just...

02:09:53.000 Sitting in someone's stink and not even knowing about it, right?

02:09:56.000 How do we know that there are an infinite number of things that we can't detect?

02:10:02.000 And we can't even imagine because we just don't have the sensitivity to it.

02:10:06.000 Well, the mathematical equations show that, Joe.

02:10:08.000 It shows there are other dimensions all around us.

02:10:14.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:10:15.000 Sure.

02:10:15.000 I mean, I've heard that.

02:10:17.000 I don't really understand it.

02:10:18.000 I can't really follow the logic of it.

02:10:20.000 I'm not a mathematician.

02:10:21.000 But from what I understand, you know, when you hear these guys talking about quantum physics and things, that they actually can sort of mathematically show that it's possible for there to be 11 different dimensions.

02:10:32.000 But what I'm saying is, how do you know it's not infinite?

02:10:35.000 How do you know that everything is not infinite?

02:10:37.000 That what we're existing in is a very narrow bandwidth, a very narrow bandwidth of, you know, several dimensions we can see and touch and hear.

02:10:45.000 And how do we know that there's not an infinite number of other possibilities that our imagination can't even perceive?

02:10:52.000 Well, radio waves are invisible.

02:10:54.000 TV waves are invisible.

02:10:55.000 Exactly.

02:10:55.000 Cell phone waves are invisible.

02:10:58.000 All of that.

02:10:58.000 There could be billions of different types of things like that that are invisible.

02:11:02.000 Let me go back.

02:11:04.000 80-year-old German quantum mechanics expert said that if Saturn is a gas giant, its mass should express some 7th or 8th dimensional vortex and that on its poles it would have giant ice hexagons.

02:11:21.000 And then when Voyager flew over the top, it had a perfect hexagon on the top.

02:11:27.000 And then they said it will express on a vortex, and it ended up expressing.

02:11:31.000 I mean, that's amazing.

02:11:33.000 Wow.

02:11:34.000 Yeah, I mean, what science has been able to predict and perceive, you know, in regards to anything in space, black holes and hypernovas and all, I mean, it's just more and more evidence of how infinite and vast everything really is.

02:11:48.000 And that's one of the things that you see in the DMT experience.

02:11:48.000 Have you heard of that?

02:11:52.000 One of the craziest things about the DMT experience is you have the feeling that you're connecting to everything All around you all at once, like you're in the center of the universe, that like you're a part of every atom, and every atom is you, and you're connected to it all, which we really are.

02:12:08.000 I mean, it's an illusion.

02:12:09.000 There is no real vacuum.

02:12:11.000 I mean, there's something around us all this time.

02:12:13.000 There's oxygen, and you know, molecules, and there's bacteria, and there's the...

02:12:17.000 There's living organisms everywhere.

02:12:19.000 We're all connected to this gigantic organism called the Earth, and that's connected to space, which is connected to other planets.

02:12:25.000 I mean, everything really is all connected.

02:12:28.000 It's just a gigantic illusion that we're separate.

02:12:32.000 But, as you said, to a psychopath, they don't recognize that when they kidnap a kid and torture him to death, that really hurt and destroyed an entire family and tore their guts out because they don't have an olfactory nerve.

02:12:44.000 They don't understand that they just went to the picnic party and diarrhea all over everything.

02:12:50.000 I think they did a lot worse than that, but yeah, I mean, that's the real problem with karma, is people look at karma and they go, well, if karma is real, how come a guy like Bush is happy?

02:13:00.000 How is that possible?

02:13:01.000 Well, to a regular person, karma does work, and the way karma works is, you put out good feelings, you put out positive energy and love and happiness, and you get that back, and you feel this exchange.

02:13:14.000 But if you don't feel, if you're broken, if you're missing something, a portion of whether it's a personality issue or whether it's a mental imbalance, like there's a connection that's not being made inside your mind somehow, and you don't feel other people's pain, if you're one of those people, then really karma is not the same for a person if you're one of those people, then really karma is not the Because they're not going to feel the bad.

02:13:36.000 But see, Joe, I'm the opposite.

02:13:37.000 I mean, I'm the opposite.

02:13:38.000 I feel everything.

02:13:39.000 It's so intense, I can't even articulate it.

02:13:41.000 It's like I'm on high.

02:13:43.000 I mean, I feel the good, the bad, the ugly.

02:13:45.000 It's like, ah, just constantly.

02:13:47.000 And I can't imagine somebody who doesn't feel it all.

02:13:50.000 Well, that's why you're compelled to expose all these different things and get on the radio every day and try to alert people.

02:13:56.000 Look, people who don't know you, when I talk to people, they go, hey, you're friends with Alex Jones, what's he like?

02:14:01.000 I'm like, Alex is a great guy!

02:14:03.000 He's always angry, he's fighting the world.

02:14:06.000 He's just paying attention to all this crazy stuff and he wants to alert people.

02:14:10.000 That's really what it is.

02:14:11.000 Well, I know you want to alert people, too.

02:14:12.000 It frustrates me to see people getting conned, getting hurt.

02:14:15.000 It makes me mad at people who abuse and use people's ignorance against them.

02:14:20.000 I mean, to me, that's like cheating.

02:14:21.000 It's like a crime.

02:14:22.000 It is horrible.

02:14:23.000 It is a horrible thing, but I think that it's very possible that all the stuff that human beings do is a part of, like, a gigantic mathematical program, and that there is always going to be a mouse, and there's always going to be a cat, and there's always going to be a dog, and there's always going to be a person. 1.00

02:14:40.000 There's a balance that's set up to everything, and there's always going to be idiots, and there's always going to be psychos that take advantage of those idiots. 0.92

02:14:47.000 And all you can do is try to steer this thing in the most positive direction possible, and steer it in a way and explain to people in a way that they say, well, maybe I should live my life thinking of other people as if they're just like me. 0.99

02:15:01.000 That we're all the same thing, experiencing this life through different circumstances.

02:15:06.000 That's the only hope that we have as a race.

02:15:09.000 If we can somehow or another think of all human beings as being the exact same thing at the base, like whatever you are is exactly the same as me.

02:15:18.000 You would be me if you lived my life.

02:15:20.000 If you were born me and you lived and had all my life experiences and all my The things that I've done in my memories and my genetics, and you live to this point in time where I'm talking to you on the phone right now, you would be me talking to you on the phone right now.

02:15:34.000 It's exactly the same thing.

02:15:36.000 With the same nature and nurture.

02:15:37.000 Well, expanding on that Joe, I see it as a crime against the universe to try to dumb people down, to try to limit their creativity, to try to limit the spectrum of experience and expression that they have.

02:15:52.000 And so I know there's always good and evil.

02:15:54.000 It's certainly a crime, Alex, but isn't it possible that these people who commit these crimes, like that's a natural part of the whole evolutionary process.

02:16:03.000 But that's my point, is they're out of control.

02:16:06.000 They're expanding it.

02:16:07.000 Right, and they will be brought down because of it eventually, I'm sure.

02:16:12.000 All I know is my gut doesn't like them.

02:16:15.000 My gut doesn't like them.

02:16:17.000 Everything that's life and goodness, I know good and bad.

02:16:20.000 And they're bad, and I don't like what shoots out of the end of their factory.

02:16:23.000 I don't like what they produce, what they make. 0.76

02:16:25.000 I'm just sick of them. 1.00

02:16:26.000 They're scum! 1.00

02:16:28.000 They are, absolutely, you're right. 1.00

02:16:30.000 But, it might be a part of a natural process.

02:16:32.000 There might need to be part of it.

02:16:34.000 Yeah, and me getting my hands around their necks.

02:16:36.000 Me getting my hands around their necks can be part of a natural process, too.

02:16:36.000 Moving along.

02:16:39.000 Well, you know what, buddy?

02:16:40.000 I would like to be there with a camera and put it on YouTube.

02:16:43.000 I think we'd get a lot of hits.

02:16:45.000 Oh, Joe Rogan, he's something else.

02:16:46.000 Let's make a call for somebody that disagrees.

02:16:49.000 Will and Philly, you go right to the head of the line.

02:16:51.000 Go ahead.

02:16:52.000 Hey, Joe, it's great to have you on board.

02:16:54.000 You're coming around.

02:16:55.000 You just summed it up.

02:16:56.000 You just summed it up with the food chain.

02:16:59.000 These people are social Darwinians, as Alex says, and anything they can do to us is justified, just for that ipso facto.

02:17:06.000 If they can do it, it's justified.

02:17:07.000 Yeah, I believe there are a lot of people like that in the world.

02:17:10.000 I think you're absolutely right.

02:17:11.000 You said it's 70-30 for Alex?

02:17:14.000 Let me tell you, my friend, it's more like 97-3.

02:17:18.000 This gentleman did his homework.

02:17:20.000 We need people like you, Joe.

02:17:22.000 But if you come out, exercise a little bit of tact because they will blacklist you.

02:17:27.000 Joe knows that.

02:17:28.000 Joe's taking a risk doing this today.

02:17:29.000 Yes.

02:17:30.000 Well, not nobody takes me seriously.

02:17:33.000 That's the beautiful thing about me and Nate. 0.96

02:17:36.000 I'm a goof. 0.99

02:17:37.000 I'm a fear factor host and a dirty stand-up comedian and I'm short and I'm going bald and I look dumb. 0.99

02:17:44.000 You're an icon, my friend, for some people. 0.97

02:17:46.000 What's that?

02:17:47.000 You're an icon to some people.

02:17:49.000 No, everybody I talk to likes Joe Rogan.

02:17:51.000 I mean, a lot of celebrity people hate, but everybody I talk to likes Joe.

02:17:51.000 Are you kidding?

02:17:55.000 Well, that's very flattering, but I'm sure there's a bunch of people that think I'm a douchebag. 0.90

02:17:58.000 Burmese is in there salivating right now. 1.00

02:18:01.000 What's up, Jason?

02:18:03.000 One thing, you can't do it all, Alex.

02:18:06.000 I'm going to show people Burmas. 1.00

02:18:07.000 Keep going.

02:18:08.000 Go to Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.

02:18:11.000 This is not an opinion.

02:18:12.000 50-ton steel beams don't eject 400 feet in gravitational collapses.

02:18:18.000 To think that two planes can lead to the pulverization of three buildings is an absolute absurdity.

02:18:26.000 You know, this is not an opinion.

02:18:27.000 Check out Richard Gage's presentation, Blueprint for Truth.

02:18:35.000 Absolutely!

02:18:36.000 You know my sentiments, Mr. Jones.

02:18:38.000 I'm one of your best critics.

02:18:39.000 I'm not one of these milquetoast guys that call up and act like I, you know, I just try to To get things out in the light, to show people that you're 100% genuine in what you do.

02:18:51.000 Well let me say this, I try to be genuine, I try to tell the truth.

02:18:54.000 Do I get things wrong?

02:18:55.000 We all do.

02:18:57.000 Last week I did the analogy of how they kept the B-2 bombers secret and I got the years wrong.

02:19:02.000 But the point is, I try to tell the truth, I try to get it right, and I'm doing this because I love people, and I'm doing this because I hate abusers and bullies, and I've always hated them.

02:19:12.000 That comes through clear, Mr. Jones.

02:19:15.000 I just want to leave you with this.

02:19:17.000 Isn't our existence amazing with the Creator?

02:19:20.000 Imagine the things that we don't know.

02:19:22.000 And isn't it funny how they demonize Mother Nature?

02:19:26.000 It's sickening.

02:19:27.000 They use it, they know, they harness the power of Mother Nature themselves and they demonize it.

02:19:32.000 Go to YouTube, Slave Plantation. 0.98

02:19:34.000 Alright, good to hear from you sir, I appreciate it.

02:19:36.000 We're going to continue behind the scenes with Joe Rogan, continuing to take calls.

02:19:40.000 Anthony, William, Carl, Will, Mike, Ray, Scott, Mark, Rick, Kid, Nick.

02:19:46.000 On and on and I don't know how we're going to get to all these with Joe Rogan.

02:19:49.000 I had a ton of news I wanted to get to, but I'm just enjoying talking to Joe.

02:19:52.000 And Joe's been really kind to spend this much time with us.

02:19:55.000 JoeRogan.net.

02:19:55.000 at my website, simfallwars.com.

02:19:57.000 Okay.

02:20:02.000 Okay.

02:20:02.000 Um...

02:20:04.000 We'll go ahead and take some calls behind the scenes.

02:20:07.000 Anthony in New York.

02:20:07.000 Is Anthony next?

02:20:09.000 Yeah, what's up?

02:20:10.000 Real fast, Anthony.

02:20:11.000 Go ahead.

02:20:12.000 Hey, what's up Alex?

02:20:12.000 Just wanted to take the time to thank you for what you're doing.

02:20:15.000 And Joe, nice talking to you.

02:20:16.000 I'm listening to you on the radio.

02:20:17.000 So I want to say one thing that I think that there really is war for the middle class.

02:20:23.000 Like you explained it the best.

02:20:24.000 And I'm trying to get people together to try to figure out a way to unite.

02:20:31.000 Get us behind me, the continental organization.

02:20:34.000 And I know you're having a big money bomb coming up for yourself.

02:20:37.000 Well, I mean, yeah, I didn't start the money bomb.

02:20:39.000 Listeners did, but I mean, I'm for it.

02:20:42.000 But the amount it's going to raise is going to be paltry compared to what I need to really expand the operation.

02:20:47.000 But regardless, you know, like Joe said, we're all just part of something bigger, so whatever we can do is what was meant to happen.

02:20:52.000 Yeah, what I'm trying to say is, like, we need maybe a continental organization where maybe you get 9-11 Truth and you to be the founder because you started this, you know.

02:21:02.000 This is all, everybody's waking up because of you and what We Are Change is doing.

02:21:06.000 Let me be clear.

02:21:07.000 Everybody is waking up, Anthony, because people are like you.

02:21:12.000 You know, Joe can say the things he says, or I can say the things I say, but if people don't then carry the ball and tell others, nothing happens.

02:21:18.000 So it's you, Anthony.

02:21:19.000 Thanks for the call.

02:21:20.000 You know, people always call me and thank me for what I'm doing, Joe, but really I see it as I'm a tiny little node, and then it's the listeners.

02:21:28.000 They're the ones that give this show the effect it has.

02:21:31.000 Well, you know, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, what your personality is designed for.

02:21:37.000 You're supposed to be uncovering all these things and exposing all these things.

02:21:41.000 That's your passion.

02:21:42.000 It's been for as long as I've known you.

02:21:43.000 And then people tell me... You're a strange guy, dude.

02:21:46.000 I've never met anybody that can pull information out of the top of their head like you can.

02:21:49.000 You just start quoting studies and different things, and I'm like, how do you have time to research all this stuff?

02:21:55.000 But you do!

02:21:56.000 You know, you spend an incredible amount of time looking up all these things.

02:22:01.000 Well, I wish they weren't true.

02:22:02.000 I mean, I wish that I didn't understand the fraud they're carrying out, because it almost makes it worse. 0.98

02:22:07.000 Because you were like a pig in a chute about to be butchered. 0.95

02:22:10.000 You know, your whole life was happy. 0.99

02:22:11.000 You didn't really know you were going to be butchered. 0.99

02:22:13.000 But I'm like a pig in a box who knows I'm going to be killed. 0.97

02:22:17.000 What do you think is in store for our society? 0.97

02:22:22.000 What is your No, I don't want to say conservative.

02:22:25.000 I don't want to say realistic.

02:22:29.000 What is your realistic view for what's going to happen?

02:22:32.000 The elite's going to get worse and worse.

02:22:33.000 They're going to have more and more petty laws to get more people in the system. 1.00

02:22:36.000 There's going to be more and more wars, more and more terror attack staged by the New World Order as they ratchet down control. 0.84

02:22:42.000 It's a scientific dictatorship.

02:22:44.000 They understand what makes us tick.

02:22:45.000 They play us like a fiddle.

02:22:48.000 And I see them getting us more and more herded into compact control grids and having released controlled bioweapon releases that get worse You know, each one, as they tighten things down, always in the name of keeping us safe, until they've killed the vast majority of us.

02:23:02.000 That is their public plan, and my God, it's horrific, but that's really... And they want to kill the vast majority of us because, supposedly, there's too many human beings, and we have an overpopulation problem.

02:23:13.000 Which they can even argue is true, but then when you read, back in the sixties, they said, in the Club of Rome, and then in the Royal Commission on Human Rights in the fifties, out of Britain, they said, We're actually going to let the third world overpopulate as a weapon to keep them down, and then not let them get new technologies, and then we'll just kill the mass of them later. 0.98

02:23:33.000 So, it's, man, it's cold-blooded.

02:23:35.000 The worst stuff you can imagine, the most horrible, cold-blooded thing you can imagine, you imagine that, that's what they're doing.

02:23:42.000 I mean, I can usually imagine the evil they're doing, and then I find their own documents saying it later.

02:23:46.000 You know, like, I'll have this many pieces of the puzzle, and then I can go, well, but the next piece is this, and then when I find that piece, it's not me finding it and trying to cram a square peg in a round hole, I cram, you know, I put it in, it pops in perfectly.

02:23:58.000 Now, do you think that this result is inevitable, or... Stay there, let's talk about it on air.

02:24:03.000 Joe, here we go.

02:24:03.000 Okay, it's kind of helter-skelter crazy how I do this, because I'm doing behind-the-scenes radio show on the InfoWars streams, and then come back to everybody after the break.

02:24:18.000 More of your calls coming up, I don't know how we're going to get to them all.

02:24:20.000 Joe Rogan is guest hosting, I guess riding a shotgun with us today.

02:24:24.000 Joe was asking me a question during the break about what's the master plan, and I said stage more terror, stage bio-attacks, until we're all into herded cities and then wipe out the majority of us.

02:24:33.000 That's their plan.

02:24:34.000 That's why I get freaked out by them killing the dollar, or calling for carbon taxes.

02:24:38.000 It's because everything they said they'd do, they keep doing, and that means they're not deviating from their stated plan.

02:24:43.000 I keep hoping they stop, or slow down, or quit.

02:24:46.000 And then, Joe, you were asking another question.

02:24:48.000 What was it?

02:24:49.000 Well, I was saying, do you think that it's possible that there's a solution to this in the form of technology?

02:24:55.000 And do you think that maybe with the access to information that we have now, as it advances and becomes more and more instant, that human beings really will be connected in a much more tangible way than they are now?

02:25:09.000 That once we have some sort of embedded technology, whether it's a chip in your brain, or whether it's something new that we can't even imagine yet, that allows you to access direct contact with information.

02:25:25.000 Like, almost like being able to get on the internet without a computer.

02:25:29.000 Yeah, again, it's a double-edged... Everyone together in this one big grid.

02:25:33.000 And if that is possible, I mean, look, the internet itself is the craziest idea ever.

02:25:37.000 So crazy that they never even thought about it for a second on Star Wars or Star Trek or any of those things.

02:25:43.000 Even though they had it in the 50s.

02:25:45.000 Except, well, you know, no one knew what it was, though.

02:25:48.000 No one knew what it really could be.

02:25:50.000 No one, even the government, had any idea that the internet could be what it is right now.

02:25:55.000 This insane, immediate access to information, Google searching, all the different stuff that we have now, websites... Joe, you know what's amazing?

02:26:04.000 You always keep saying things that are actually things I've studied, and I get the idea you're organically seeing it extrapolated out.

02:26:10.000 Actually, in 93, declassified, January 7, 2000, the Army War College came out.

02:26:18.000 The Federation of American Scientists published it.

02:26:19.000 It's in my book, Descent into Tyranny.

02:26:21.000 And they said that by 2024, their job will be inserting everyone in the world into racks.

02:26:27.000 You know how in Tokyo, most people in the city now live in these racks, like coffins that come out of the wall?

02:26:34.000 Where you sleep and look at, well they're gonna, the government's job will be inserting you with this, this is where the Matrix actually came from, and that we'll all be wireheads because the pleasure centers will be, you know the studies with rats thirty years ago where it only punches the pleasure center till it dies, and so, and so whereas that could empower us to all communicate with each other and be free, they're gonna be running the program and only using it to control us so we accept going into the rack and then being killed.

02:27:01.000 Well, maybe Alex, that really is a form of evolution.

02:27:05.000 Have you ever thought about the idea that machines and technology and all the things that we use to advance our lives, these things that are constantly improving and constantly being innovated and changed.

02:27:20.000 But I consciously want to warn people about that danger.

02:27:23.000 But have you ever thought that these machines are almost like a symbiotic form of life that we share our existence with?

02:27:31.000 I mean, if you didn't define life as biological, if you didn't define life as something that lives, dies, and rots, and gets eaten by bacteria, and you looked at just cars...

02:27:41.000 You would look at something that needs humans, because humans have to design it, and humans have to operate it.

02:27:47.000 But Joe, what I'm saying... I understand what you're saying, but... Humans need these things to move on.

02:27:51.000 Isn't it possible that it is some sort of a symbiotic form of life, and that we may eventually evolve to the point where we become one with it, and that's our destiny?

02:28:01.000 Well, that is... That might be what technology is doing, Alex.

02:28:03.000 That is what the transhumanist, post-humanist believe, and what I'm saying is... Well, maybe that's what their goal is.

02:28:10.000 Maybe they don't even realize what their purpose is.

02:28:12.000 No, no, they do.

02:28:12.000 Maybe they don't realize that their purpose is to get technology to a point where it can think rationally outside of human emotions and animal instincts.

02:28:21.000 But the problem is... It's been a real Cylon. 0.99

02:28:23.000 Yes, Cylon invasion. 0.97

02:28:25.000 What they're doing is, though, the globalists are engineering the architecture through their psychopathic mind.

02:28:32.000 The new life form they're creating, you know, we are creators of the image of God, is a system for dehumanization and control.

02:28:42.000 So I'm not saying this couldn't be designed to empower... It could be designed to probably empower us, but I'm telling you, look who's building it.

02:28:50.000 It's being directed by...

02:28:52.000 I understand what you're saying, and I understand that they're building it for all the wrong reasons. 0.94

02:28:56.000 That what they're doing is for all the wrong reasons, as they are sociopaths.

02:28:59.000 Absolutely, I understand that.

02:29:00.000 But, let's look at it this way.

02:29:02.000 What if there was a species far more evolved than human beings are today?

02:29:07.000 What if they were 100% loving and 100% honest and 100% aware of each other and communicated with each other like instantly and it was all positive?

02:29:18.000 100% positive and this organism this new species was being threatened by humans wouldn't humans look like something that you would need to wipe out we're a huge problem we're crazy we need to continue I think that other group sounds boring and we're going to You hear that?

02:29:40.000 Broadcasting into the galaxy!

02:29:41.000 We're coming for you, little green man! 1.00

02:29:43.000 We're going to kick your butts out of your bases! 1.00

02:29:45.000 They'll be ours within hours! 1.00

02:29:47.000 We'll be right back.

02:29:48.000 Stay with us.

02:29:53.000 We're on the march.

02:29:55.000 The Empire's on the run.

02:29:57.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:29:59.000 Let's continue.

02:30:01.000 Joe, this is an insane discussion.

02:30:03.000 It's fine, man.

02:30:04.000 No, I think people... I feel like I'm on acid right now.

02:30:10.000 That's what I feel like every day.

02:30:11.000 Not that I've ever done that, ladies and gentlemen.

02:30:13.000 I hear you, buddy.

02:30:14.000 Hey, you know me, Joe.

02:30:15.000 I'm a teetotaler, aren't I?

02:30:16.000 You are a teetotaler.

02:30:17.000 You occasionally have a Budweiser.

02:30:19.000 That's right, but I don't smoke the ganja.

02:30:21.000 No, you do not, sir.

02:30:22.000 You should.

02:30:23.000 It's good for you.

02:30:24.000 I'm naturally high on my own, Joe.

02:30:27.000 Well, okay.

02:30:28.000 Hey, we've all got a different biochemistry.

02:30:31.000 Let's take some phone calls here.

02:30:33.000 Sure.

02:30:33.000 Let's talk to William in California.

02:30:35.000 You're on the air with Joe Rogan.

02:30:37.000 Hey, how you guys doing?

02:30:39.000 Thank you.

02:30:41.000 Can you hear me?

02:30:42.000 Yes, sir.

02:30:42.000 Yeah, we can hear you.

02:30:43.000 What's up, man?

02:30:44.000 I just want to have a call to everyone out there to support Alex Jones' money bomb this weekend.

02:30:51.000 The money bomb is Alex and, you know... You heard about Ron Paul raising all that money on those days?

02:30:57.000 Um, I heard about Ron Paul, yeah.

02:31:00.000 The same guys that did that have decided to do a money bomb for me, but obviously the money bomb thing's kind of been used now.

02:31:05.000 I don't expect it to be that big, but they want to help me, you know, donate money, because I'm not, you know, a big TV star or anything, so we can expand our offices and get better equipment.

02:31:14.000 I didn't think it up, but everybody's getting behind it, and, you know... We can all support it, though.

02:31:18.000 I need Joe Rogan to be my sugar daddy.

02:31:22.000 Now, we all can help out and support you.

02:31:25.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

02:31:26.000 I wanted to ask Joe if he could talk a little bit about the float chamber that he got from Crash this year to everyone.

02:31:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:33.000 You know Crash?

02:31:34.000 Yeah, I know you know me.

02:31:34.000 How do you know Crash?

02:31:36.000 I'm William.

02:31:37.000 I was up at your house.

02:31:38.000 Oh, what's going on, William?

02:31:40.000 Okay.

02:31:41.000 Crash is the guy that designed my new isolation tank.

02:31:45.000 He's this crazy genius that lives in Venice.

02:31:48.000 And what, the difference, if you don't know what an isolation tank is, it's a tank that was created by this guy, his name was invented by this guy named John Lilly, who was a psychedelic pioneer from the 70s, and what he wanted to do was figure out a way, he actually invented it in the 50s, he wanted to figure out a way to separate the human body from the influence of sensory input.

02:32:09.000 And what he, what he designed was a tank that's filled with water that's warm, and it's heated up to the same temperature as the surface of your skin.

02:32:16.000 The womb!

02:32:17.000 And it's 800, it's just like the womb. 0.97

02:32:19.000 And there's 800 pounds of salt in that water, so you're incredibly buoyant.

02:32:23.000 So you, you come off weightless.

02:32:25.000 And then, you pull the lid shut on this, um, this, this door, and you're in total darkness.

02:32:30.000 And total silence.

02:32:31.000 And you have no sensory input coming in.

02:32:33.000 And because of that, you feel like untethered from your body.

02:32:37.000 And your brain becomes like supercharged.

02:32:39.000 And you have these incredible experiences and really introspective moments.

02:32:44.000 It's DMT again because your body thinks you're asleep.

02:32:47.000 It's not exactly like DMT.

02:32:49.000 It doesn't usually get as intense as that.

02:32:51.000 It's much more like... But I mean, some of the same chemicals, I believe, are being released.

02:32:55.000 There are some psychedelic chemicals that are being released during this experience.

02:33:00.000 But, and the other thing about this experience is, the best thing about it is, you know, if you're the type of person that gets freaked out by these kind of things, it ends any time you want to.

02:33:08.000 It's not like you take mushrooms, you have to wait five hours before you come down.

02:33:11.000 You just open the door, and then you're fine.

02:33:13.000 I'm surprised they haven't tried to make that illegal yet.

02:33:16.000 I know, it's kind of shocking, because it's, uh, it's... I'll tell you what, we're going back on, here we go.

02:33:20.000 Okay.

02:33:20.000 Stay there.

02:33:21.000 Shores of old Mexico. 0.99

02:33:23.000 It sounded so good.

02:33:28.000 All right, let's go back to Joe Rogan.

02:33:30.000 He was talking about his century deprivation tank, which is like the experience of the womb.

02:33:35.000 No drugs involved, you just think you're floating in weightlessness back in the womb.

02:33:40.000 Altered States, the movie's about that.

02:33:42.000 And they're inside the salt tank, water and salt, near body temperature.

02:33:48.000 And Joe, you were talking about the experience because a caller, who I guess is friends with you, William in California, still on with us, was bringing it up.

02:33:55.000 Go ahead.

02:33:56.000 I'm actually giving away, I got a new tank design and I'm giving away my old tank online.

02:34:02.000 If you go to JoeRogan.net and you sign up for my mailing list, at the end of June I'm giving away my isolation tank and I'll have it delivered to your house and someone will set it up.

02:34:13.000 How often do you get in the tank?

02:34:14.000 I get in as much as I can.

02:34:18.000 It's a pretty intense experience.

02:34:21.000 Sometimes I like to not get in it for a while and just kind of go over all the things I've learned when I've been in there.

02:34:26.000 So what happens when you're in the tank?

02:34:27.000 I've never done it.

02:34:31.000 Well, you're in total sensory deprivation.

02:34:33.000 You don't feel anything.

02:34:34.000 You don't see anything.

02:34:35.000 You don't hear anything.

02:34:36.000 And the reason being is that you're in this tank.

02:34:39.000 It's filled with water.

02:34:40.000 The water is heated to 93.5 degrees, which is the same temperature as the surface of your skin.

02:34:45.000 So when you're lying in it, you don't feel the water.

02:34:47.000 Then on top of that, there's 800 pounds of salt in there, which makes you incredibly buoyant.

02:34:51.000 And then you close the lid on this thing and you're in total silence and total darkness.

02:34:55.000 And what happens is, in the absence of sensory input, your brain just becomes like it's supercharged, like it's untethered.

02:35:03.000 And it becomes literally like a seminar on your life.

02:35:07.000 Anything that's been bothering you about your life will be dragged forth.

02:35:10.000 I've got to have one of these.

02:35:12.000 I know you've invited me out to use it before.

02:35:14.000 Next time I'm out in California, I've got to come.

02:35:16.000 If you'll be gracious enough, let me get in the tank.

02:35:18.000 I'm sure there's a place where you can rent one and use it in Austin.

02:35:18.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:35:21.000 If you Google where to float, if you go and you Google that, there's a website.

02:35:25.000 Two hours later, I'm in one.

02:35:27.000 Yeah, literally, man.

02:35:29.000 I'm kind of afraid to get in one, man.

02:35:31.000 I'm already pretty whacked out.

02:35:32.000 Well, it'll definitely be eye-opening, because a lot of people run from reality, and when you get in an isolation tank, there's nowhere to run.

02:35:40.000 You might not even think you run from reality, but there might be something you're running from.

02:35:44.000 I'm gonna get in one, and I'm gonna report back what happened.

02:35:44.000 That's it!

02:35:47.000 Please do, man.

02:35:49.000 It's a very intense, natural, psychedelic experience.

02:35:51.000 And I think psychedelic experiences are good for everybody.

02:35:54.000 But I think a lot of people, rightly so, a lot of people are afraid of drugs.

02:35:59.000 Because there's a lot of dangerous drugs.

02:36:01.000 Oh, that was the thing.

02:36:02.000 DMT.

02:36:03.000 Now, you've had good experiences with this naturally occurring chemical, Joe, that you've taken.

02:36:08.000 Other people, though, some people have bad experiences.

02:36:11.000 Well, the experiences that people are having, the reason why they're having bad experiences, so-called bad, is because they can't handle the experience.

02:36:19.000 The experience is mind-blowing.

02:36:20.000 Terrence McKenna said it best.

02:36:22.000 He said that it's almost possible that you could die from astonishment.

02:36:27.000 Now, let's be clear, this all came from the military, and now... Well, it didn't come from the military, it's been used by the Amazons, and... No, I'm in our modern... I'm in our modern... Yes, well, it was... I don't know the exact history of it, or I don't recall... Well, let me tell people the history. 0.67

02:36:44.000 I believe it was synthesized in 1931, and I think they... there's a bunch of people that went down to the Amazon, and they brought this stuff back, and they initially called it telepathy.

02:36:57.000 Because one of the chemicals in one of the plants, they labeled it telepathine because it literally allowed people to telepathically communicate.

02:37:06.000 Then they realized that this chemical that they labeled telepathine was actually already labeled.

02:37:11.000 It was called harmine.

02:37:13.000 So through the rules of scientific nomenclature, the original name stuck.

02:37:17.000 But they tried to name it telepathine after they figured out what it did.

02:37:21.000 Well, let me go back and comment on that, Joe, since you raised it.

02:37:24.000 I mean, you know LSD was big in the 40s with the Skull and Bones crowd, the owners of Time, Life, Books, others.

02:37:30.000 They were taking it, and then they decided to give it to the college kids, so they put the ingredient list out, you know, black sedans pulling up, the CIA put it all over the U.S.

02:37:40.000 Well, where are they now?

02:37:41.000 We need some acid right now.

02:37:42.000 It would help everybody.

02:37:44.000 Tell those guys to go back to work.

02:37:46.000 Well, they thought it'd be used to control people, then they decided it was actually freeing people's minds, so they banned it.

02:37:51.000 So now all there is is the toxic, dirty junk that's out there from people having to mix too many chemicals to get the same thing.

02:37:57.000 But yes, I mean, the first time I heard... Well, that's the crazy thing, Alex, about DMT, is that you really can't stop the source of it, because it's in so many different plants.

02:38:07.000 It's in grass.

02:38:08.000 It's in Filaris grass.

02:38:10.000 It's a very common grass.

02:38:11.000 You can, there's many, many plants that you can find online that contain this chemical.

02:38:16.000 And DMT is like, the way I describe it is like mushrooms times a million plus aliens.

02:38:23.000 I mean, it is the most mind-blowing psychedelic experience.

02:38:27.000 You will never... What happens metabolically?

02:38:29.000 What happens to the heart rate and things when you're on this?

02:38:31.000 Well, you know, it can be dangerous if you have high blood pressure.

02:38:34.000 One of the things that they found, um, that was a little scary during the, uh, DNP experiences, where the people's blood pressure would go through the roof because they would freak out.

02:38:43.000 But it's really because you're, I mean, like McKenna said, that you're almost dying of astonishment.

02:38:48.000 You know, astonishment is a big theme in the DMT experience, and when you go over there, one of the first things that these DMT speakers... Listen, I'm already, I'm already in that.

02:38:57.000 One of the first, hold on a minute, one of the first things they try to communicate with you is to try to not give into that astonishment.

02:39:04.000 They literally say to you, do not give in to astonishment.

02:39:07.000 And this is something that McKenna had said, and when I experienced it, it was like I was hearing his words bounce back to me from these creatures as if they knew that I had read all McKenna's stuff, that I was preparing for this.

02:39:22.000 It's the craziest experience ever.

02:39:24.000 You're talking to, like, ultimate wisdom, ultimate love.

02:39:28.000 And just intelligence so beyond your grasp that you can't even really... It's like flying through your brain and you're trying to grab hold of it as it's passing.

02:39:38.000 What do these creatures look like?

02:39:40.000 They don't look like anything.

02:39:41.000 They look like everything.

02:39:42.000 They look like everything there is all together all at once.

02:39:46.000 The way I would describe it, like I said before, it's like complex geometric patterns that are made out of love.

02:39:51.000 But the crazy thing about it, it doesn't seem like they're creatures.

02:39:55.000 It seems like what you're communicating with is everything.

02:39:59.000 It's like you're communicating with the wiring under the board.

02:40:02.000 You're communicating with the code.

02:40:04.000 You're communicating with God.

02:40:05.000 You're in the electricity.

02:40:07.000 You're traveling through the electricity.

02:40:08.000 You are the electricity.

02:40:10.000 You're everything.

02:40:11.000 Everything is all together all at once.

02:40:15.000 Mind-boggling!

02:40:16.000 And when you come down from it, when you come back to reality, it's very difficult to assimilate.

02:40:21.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why you forget about it so quickly.

02:40:25.000 Now, have you videotaped yourself while, after, like, because you don't remember what's going on, while it's happening, have you videotaped yourself while this is going on?

02:40:33.000 No, I videotaped, I've turned on the video camera and talked about it after it's over.

02:40:36.000 Why not do it during?

02:40:37.000 Because nothing happens.

02:40:38.000 You just sit with your eyes closed.

02:40:40.000 Yes, you just sit there on the couch.

02:40:41.000 Yeah, you just melt into the couch and then when it's over you come back.

02:40:46.000 I would not recommend this to anybody who's not stable.

02:40:49.000 I would not recommend this to anybody who is a paranoid person or a person who's very sensitive or gets very emotional.

02:40:58.000 I'm not getting near it.

02:41:00.000 It's so earth-shattering that you have to have a very good foundation in terra firma, a very good... Well, see, I have that, Joe, but I'm also already so sensitive, and I don't want to get into it.

02:41:13.000 Well, it would be good for you, man.

02:41:14.000 It wouldn't be a bad thing for you.

02:41:16.000 And if they're correct, if these people that believe that it happens during REM sleep, that it happens when we die, if they're correct, you're going to experience it whether you like it or not.

02:41:24.000 And maybe what it is is having a peek at the future, having a peek at what else is possible out there.

02:41:30.000 The other side.

02:41:31.000 Yes, having a peek at the other side.

02:41:33.000 Maybe that helps us in this life.

02:41:35.000 Maybe that's why it's there.

02:41:36.000 Maybe that's why we can figure it out.

02:41:38.000 Maybe that's what my whole purpose in this life has been.

02:41:41.000 Maybe my whole reason for getting famous, for everything I've ever done, for all these different areas that I work in, whether it's comedy or Ultimate Fighting Championship or television shows or anything, maybe my whole purpose in this world is to introduce people to this crazy experience.

02:41:58.000 Because I cannot believe that there's something that's been around since the 1950s that's this powerful, that's not on the front page of every news story, that's not on CNN 24 hours a day.

02:42:09.000 They're not talking about it.

02:42:10.000 How can they not be talking about it?

02:42:12.000 Let me say this, and again, I'm not advocating using this chemical that's naturally in your brain.

02:42:16.000 Obviously, like you said, it's very dangerous.

02:42:17.000 Well, you can get it through yoga!

02:42:19.000 You can reach this point, supposedly, through kundalini yoga.

02:42:23.000 That's what the practice of kundalini yoga is all about.

02:42:25.000 Let me just go back, though.

02:42:27.000 I'm just putting out that warning.

02:42:30.000 But I have to say, you know, we kind of fell out of touch.

02:42:32.000 You're busy, I'm busy, and I think you've changed from when I first knew you nine, ten years ago.

02:42:37.000 I mean, you weren't bad then, you were a nice, smart guy then, but Joe, I think you're more articulate now, and you were always articulate, but I think you have changed, you know, towards the positive.

02:42:47.000 Do you think that this chemical's done that to you?

02:42:51.000 100%.

02:42:51.000 All of the psychedelic experiences I've had, whether they've been the natural ones, like the isolation tank, or whether they've been from mushrooms, or DMT experiences, or cannabis...

02:43:01.000 Any of the different psychedelic experiences that I've had have changed me for the better, 100%.

02:43:05.000 They've made me more honest, they've made me more aware, they've made me more humble, infinitely more humble.

02:43:12.000 The better and the better I get at everything in life, the more humble I get.

02:43:16.000 That's another thing that I've realized.

02:43:18.000 The better I get at comedy, the more I don't even feel like I'm doing what I'm doing.

02:43:22.000 When I do comedy, it feels like I'm like, tuning into something like I turn on an antenna and I do and the more I think about it that way the better I get at it and if I start to think about it as something that I do or attach myself to it or attach my ego to it then it starts to suck it's only good when you appreciate it for it it's only good when you're you're free of the ego and that's what psychedelic experiences are all about it It's all about abandoning the ego.

02:43:49.000 It's all about letting go of all your predetermined ideas and predetermined patterns of behavior and seeing this whole experience for what it really is, which is mind-boggling.

02:44:01.000 The layers upon layers upon layers that exist in this existence right now that you and I Both living and are fascinating.

02:44:09.000 Let me tell you something, man.

02:44:10.000 I really learned that watching my daughter being born.

02:44:13.000 Holy cow! 0.96

02:44:15.000 You have three children now, Alex?

02:44:17.000 Yes.

02:44:18.000 Mind-boggling!

02:44:19.000 You think that you know what it's like to see a person come out of a person, but when you actually are there and you see yourself, a creation of your genetics, come out of another No, it's all heavy duty.

02:44:31.000 It's all incredible.

02:44:32.000 But that's it, Joe.

02:44:33.000 For me, these people are obsessed with material or acting cool, and that's how it is for me.

02:44:39.000 More and more of my ego is just gone, and I just walk around looking at trees and cars and the sun and people.

02:44:43.000 That's how you're supposed to be, man.

02:44:45.000 That's how you're supposed to be beautiful.

02:44:46.000 But I mean, I see a fat woman as beautiful just because it's a creature, and exactly. 0.95

02:44:50.000 See, I don't need hallucinogens because everything is just so weird already to me.

02:44:56.000 Well, it is, man.

02:44:57.000 If you're paying attention, life is infinitely... There's another quote that... I forget who the dude was that said it, but he said, not only is life stranger than you suppose, it's stranger than you can suppose.

02:45:10.000 And that's a brilliant quote to whoever said it.

02:45:12.000 I don't know what it was.

02:45:12.000 But that's it.

02:45:13.000 It's really true.

02:45:14.000 I feel blasted when I think about my one existence in this incredible beauty.

02:45:20.000 I realize even after I'm gone, life goes on, and that I was part of that larger continuum.

02:45:25.000 And it's not even a scary thought.

02:45:27.000 It's more like I'm opening up to the whole universe, and at the same time, it's just so gripping.

02:45:34.000 And then I see these petty people who want petty temporal power and petty power here in this plane, and it's like a joke!

02:45:45.000 Yeah, it is like a joke.

02:45:47.000 That's what most people are.

02:45:48.000 Most people live their life like gigantic children.

02:45:51.000 You know, and that's what I was talking about earlier when I was saying that it's almost like there's like a mathematical program to life. 0.96

02:45:57.000 It's almost like we need all these different lemmings, and we need all these different silly people that join cults and believe in crazy religions and support the government no matter how atrocious their behavior is. 1.00

02:46:09.000 And we need people who are the head of industry to be sociopaths, and we need people who are, you know, people like Deepak Chopra who are spiritually enlightened to show us a new way. 0.91

02:46:20.000 It's almost like this is just a gigantic program that's moving towards some ultimate goal.

02:46:24.000 and what is that ultimate goal that the big question that you know i mean that's like the big thing behind what people believe two thousand twelve will be well i do believe that we have of free will and that we are individually not that the others overarching program but i believe we had to that and that it's us giving that choice like this giant work of art that's constantly change that that's a great way to describe it a giant work of art

02:46:48.000 But it's possible, Alex, that we do have free will, but that free will may be a part of the program.

02:46:55.000 I mean, it may all be what motivates us to ultimately pursue our natural intention.

02:47:00.000 Well, I'm just telling you, creatures that can have a dream that comes true exactly, that's a creature that can create.

02:47:06.000 Absolutely.

02:47:07.000 Well, we obviously can.

02:47:08.000 Look at the world we live in.

02:47:10.000 Look at what we've created.

02:47:11.000 Look at what we're talking on the phone right now.

02:47:13.000 We're talking through creation.

02:47:15.000 I mean, like I said, this creation, the idea of us communicating on the radio is way crazier than the idea of someone being able to see a reality before it happens.

02:47:25.000 That's just, the only thing that's crazy about the ability to see the future like you have in your dreams is that we don't do it every day.

02:47:32.000 That's all that's crazy about that.

02:47:33.000 If you look at what that is, that's not nearly as if you're not affecting things.

02:47:37.000 What we're doing right now, you and I are communicating instantaneously with millions of people.

02:47:43.000 And that creates the ripples.

02:47:45.000 Not only that, people are going to get a hold of this tape, they're going to put it on YouTube, and it's going to hit millions and millions more people, and they're going to tell their friends about it.

02:47:52.000 Listen to what they're talking about.

02:47:53.000 How crazy is this?

02:47:54.000 And then these ideas that we're talking about right now are going to be introduced to people that would never have thought of this all over the world, and it's going to change the way they think about things.

02:48:04.000 And then they're not going to care what their bosses mean to them, because the boss has got the problem.

02:48:08.000 They're not going to care if they're not as, quote, beautiful, according to Madison Avenue, because it's the beautiful mind, it's what's going on inside their head.

02:48:15.000 You're absolutely right.

02:48:16.000 Here's the deal.

02:48:16.000 We've got like 20 phone calls.

02:48:18.000 I'm going to skip this break and go to the end of the show with Joe.

02:48:21.000 I've got to have Joe back sooner.

02:48:22.000 This has been incredible.

02:48:23.000 This is a different Joe Rogan than the one I interviewed six and a half years ago on air, and he was a great guy then.

02:48:28.000 Let's go ahead, and who's up next here?

02:48:31.000 Let's talk to Carl in Montreal, Canada.

02:48:33.000 You're on the air with Joe Rogan.

02:48:34.000 Hey, great to hear you're on here.

02:48:36.000 I agree with Alex, what he's doing.

02:48:41.000 Some things I do disagree.

02:48:44.000 You know, I believe that we're entering hard times.

02:48:46.000 It's going to gradually get worse and worse, but I believe, you know, that God, you know, that free will is part of the program.

02:48:52.000 And the elite's trying to block that right now.

02:48:54.000 Free will may be part of the program, but my point is that free will may be a part of this giant mathematical program that we look at as, oh, you can change the future.

02:49:05.000 Maybe it is your design to try to change the future, to see the beauty and the love and the positivity in things, and to go in that direction.

02:49:14.000 It may be a part of our programming.

02:49:16.000 Well, it's part of the programming that we've been given free will to make the choice.

02:49:19.000 If we look at all the other animals on the planet that do all the different things they do, wolves with their alpha male behavior, ants with their communication, no history, no writing.

02:49:31.000 But, you know, now they've looked at the genetics, they've now looked at the coding, and I've had top scientists on, and they're saying it looks like it was built.

02:49:38.000 It looks like it was designed.

02:49:39.000 Not just by, quote, out of the mud, Mother Nature, designed.

02:49:43.000 Right, but maybe the universe designs itself. 0.51

02:49:47.000 What people aren't understanding when they want to talk about a designer or a creator, it's very possible that nature is so powerful that it designs itself.

02:49:56.000 Anything else, caller?

02:49:57.000 Well, I believe that, you know, the...

02:50:00.000 Free will has been, you know, misused by people.

02:50:02.000 I believe there is a Creator, He gave us free will, but people choose to use that free will, you know, in the wrong way.

02:50:08.000 And that's what a lot of the problems are, you know?

02:50:11.000 God gave us a choice of what's right and wrong, and sadly, most people choose to do what's wrong.

02:50:16.000 I hear you.

02:50:17.000 I appreciate your call.

02:50:18.000 Yeah, I mean, the do as thou wilt crowd, that means running over other people.

02:50:21.000 It's not being their own little power gods, and that's the enemy of true creativity and freedom in God.

02:50:27.000 Mike and Phyllis, you're on the air with Joe Rogan.

02:50:31.000 I love the conversation going on.

02:50:35.000 I thought I'd change it up a little bit.

02:50:37.000 Joe, what do you think about Kimbo's slice?

02:50:42.000 What do I think about him?

02:50:42.000 What about him?

02:50:44.000 What do you think about him?

02:50:45.000 His fighting style?

02:50:47.000 Can we see him in the USA?

02:50:48.000 Uh, maybe someday, man.

02:50:50.000 If he gets out of his Elite XC contract.

02:50:51.000 But I like the dude.

02:50:52.000 I think he's a badass.

02:50:53.000 He's fun to watch. 0.86

02:50:55.000 He looks crazy. 0.90

02:50:56.000 His shaved head. 1.00

02:50:56.000 The big crazy beard. 1.00

02:50:58.000 I like him.

02:50:58.000 I'm a Kimbo Slice fan.

02:51:01.000 Do you think, uh... Do you think that, like, he's any good, or... Like, all these fighters are trashing on him, so...

02:51:09.000 Ah, you know what, man?

02:51:10.000 People are always going to trash someone and get a lot of attention.

02:51:13.000 Kimbo gets a lot of attention right now.

02:51:14.000 His success is taking a shot at him.

02:51:16.000 Yeah, whenever you, whenever someone breaks through and starts getting a lot of attention, you know, there's always going to be people that don't think he deserves it, especially if it happened quickly, like with Kimbo.

02:51:27.000 You know, he just fought some people on YouTube and then bang!

02:51:30.000 You know, instantly, you know, he's famous and he's all over CBS and people are like, I've been fighting for 10 years and this is ridiculous.

02:51:36.000 Oh, listen, I've got other talk shows calling me up and gloving around for 20 years. 0.99

02:51:40.000 I hate you. 1.00

02:51:41.000 You're a criminal. 1.00

02:51:42.000 Just because they're jealous. 0.86

02:51:44.000 They'll even admit they're jealous.

02:51:45.000 Jealous of what?

02:51:46.000 I mean, I'm trying to wake people up.

02:51:48.000 This isn't about some... And that's another thing is, I never grew up being jealous and envious and things like that, unless it was over women.

02:51:54.000 I did have that mating instinct.

02:51:59.000 I hate it when people operate with me on a level of jealousy or envy.

02:52:02.000 I'm only wanting to continue my mission, but I refuse to let other people dominate and control me.

02:52:10.000 And I mean, Joe, I know you're the same way.

02:52:11.000 You don't have people trying to put their thumb on you, and then I hate the aggression that brings out in me when somebody tries to beat me, and then I crush them.

02:52:20.000 You see what I'm saying?

02:52:21.000 Oh, absolutely, yeah.

02:52:23.000 I mean, that's what forces competition, though.

02:52:27.000 I mean, that aggression, that male instinct is what forces competition.

02:52:30.000 I mean, if the world was filled with loving, powerful people, we'd be living in a field getting rained on.

02:52:36.000 Exactly.

02:52:36.000 No, I agree.

02:52:37.000 It's exactly that dynamism, that aggression, but it has to be controlled as a limited weapon you deploy only when you need it.

02:52:44.000 Instead, you have these aberrations that are just, RAAAGH!

02:52:47.000 Just crushing you! 0.71

02:52:47.000 The real problem, Alex, is that there's not a workbook or a guidebook to how to live life. 0.71

02:52:52.000 The real problem is that when people are confronted with all sorts of emotions and jealousy and problems, There's not something that's there that can show them, whether it's a, you know, like a, I don't want to say a government institution, but like some sort of a cultural institution that explains to human beings what is going on with their behavior.

02:53:15.000 Well, we've had that with all these fake religions, and then they all fight with each other, you know, trying to claim who's got the best handbooks. 1.00

02:53:21.000 You get 20,000 denominations.

02:53:24.000 Yeah, that is the problem.

02:53:25.000 There's a bunch of people showing that they have the idea of how to fix things, when really they don't.

02:53:30.000 Okay, anything else?

02:53:31.000 Oh, thanks Mike.

02:53:32.000 Let's talk to Ray in Texas.

02:53:35.000 Ray, go ahead in Texas.

02:53:37.000 Hey, I have an experience I just want to relay real quick.

02:53:41.000 I was over at Home Depot here in Austin, and there was a woman who had set up a booth in front of the Office Depot, and it said there, and I walked in, I bought some things, came out, And then she asked me if I was interested if I had any little ones.

02:53:57.000 And I said no.

02:53:58.000 And as I was scanning about the table, this ID card jumped out at me.

02:54:03.000 It was a Dare ID card.

02:54:05.000 Hey, stop right there.

02:54:05.000 We're going to come back and talk about it right now.

02:54:07.000 Main transmission.

02:54:07.000 Here we go.

02:54:11.000 Look, I've had Joe Rogan on for 2 hours and 50 minutes.

02:54:14.000 We're going to let him go in 5 minutes.

02:54:15.000 This live broadcast is going to end.

02:54:17.000 But I promise, we'll have Joe Rogan back up.

02:54:20.000 Amazing, mind-blowing interview with Joe Rogan.

02:54:25.000 We were talking to a caller who just, in the behind-the-scenes Prison Planet.tv viewers, who was talking about he was at Home Depot, came outside, they had a D.A.R.E.

02:54:32.000 He saw a D.A.R.E.

02:54:32.000 program.

02:54:33.000 card.

02:54:34.000 For those who don't know, they enroll all the kids in Austin and all over the country in Tattletale programs, how to tattle on your parents.

02:54:40.000 That's in my film, Road to Tyranny, that I made six years ago.

02:54:44.000 Go ahead and tell your story quickly, sir.

02:54:46.000 Okay, so I was on the way out of the store there, and she had asked me if I was interested in what was going on there.

02:54:52.000 And I scanned about her table, and there were various things there.

02:54:55.000 And I saw an ID card for children.

02:54:57.000 It was very colorful and had a, you know, little symbols and things on it.

02:54:57.000 I looked at it.

02:55:01.000 And, um, I asked her, what was this all about?

02:55:05.000 And, um, she went on to tell me, well, this is the most important thing on the table.

02:55:08.000 And here's why, um, on the back here, you have the ability.

02:55:13.000 And I mean, I, I, I don't know if it was a billionaire option or what, we didn't get into that kind of detail, but to sign away your power of attorney for medical emergencies.

02:55:23.000 And by the way, they perform emergency care on kids.

02:55:24.000 They don't need that.

02:55:25.000 That now means the state can do stuff to your kids. 0.77

02:55:27.000 Unbelievable.

02:55:27.000 emergency happens and here it's your power of attorney signed away so there aren't any waivers that need to be signed and it was just an automatic and by the way they perform emergency care on kids they don't need that that now means the state can do stuff to your kids unbelievable and and was this dare for kids it was it was there It was the dare I grew up with, but I guess they're into these other things.

02:55:52.000 Yeah, that's the thing, Joe, is they're hiring millions of Americans to be secret police, tattletale spies.

02:55:57.000 They're taking people's kids for no reason.

02:56:00.000 I mean, government is just out of control, Joe Rogan.

02:56:03.000 Well, I think anything that has too much power is subject to be out of control.

02:56:10.000 You know, and the government has too much power, for sure.

02:56:12.000 I mean, we're seeing that everywhere we look.

02:56:14.000 We're seeing that with...

02:56:17.000 Excuse me?

02:56:18.000 I'm sorry, but here is an instance where we're talking about inflating people by their own will.

02:56:23.000 You could go ahead and sign away your power of attorney, and then you're under Admiralty and there's nothing you can do about it.

02:56:29.000 Man, I wish you'd have gotten me some info on that.

02:56:31.000 Email me some info on that.

02:56:32.000 That's amazing, Ray.

02:56:33.000 We've got to move fast.

02:56:34.000 Jesse in Canada, from the Genesis Line.

02:56:37.000 Go ahead.

02:56:37.000 You're on the air.

02:56:40.000 Go ahead, Jesse, in Canada.

02:56:41.000 You're on the air.

02:56:42.000 Oh, hey, Joe.

02:56:44.000 Congrats on the new baby.

02:56:45.000 Thank you, man.

02:56:46.000 And nice fanny pack.

02:56:47.000 Just thought I'd say that.

02:56:50.000 And I was wondering, Dr. Rick Strassman, he said he believes that plants are conscious, and that the DMT and ayahuasca use that is rising, that it may be plants communicating with us.

02:57:05.000 What do you think about that?

02:57:07.000 It's very possible.

02:57:08.000 I mean, why not?

02:57:09.000 I mean, we think that communication is limited to making noises with our mouths and typing things on keyboards and writing things on paper, but why?

02:57:18.000 That's just like we were talking about before.

02:57:20.000 It's just because that's all we're comfortable with.

02:57:23.000 That's all we know how to experience.

02:57:25.000 If you talk to the Amazon natives that brew ayahuasca, when they talk about how they figured out... I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of different plants in the Amazon, yet they figured out how to take the bark of one plant, or the bark of the root of one plant and the leaves of another plant and mix them together, and that this makes this incredible brew.

02:57:47.000 And when asked, they tell you that the plants told them how to make this.

02:57:52.000 I mean, I don't know what happens when you take mushrooms, but I swear to God, it feels like you're communicating with something.

02:58:02.000 How do you know you're not communicating with the mushroom?

02:58:04.000 How do you know that's not how it communicates with you?

02:58:08.000 Hey, Joe Rogan, the main transmission's over.

02:58:10.000 Let me just say bye to you on the other side here.

02:58:12.000 To all the networks out there and all the stations, thank you for tuning in the broadcast.

02:58:16.000 Back tomorrow, 11 a.m.

02:58:17.000 to 3 p.m.

02:58:18.000 Central Standard Time.

02:58:19.000 Retransmission will start after me and Joe finish up here in about two or three minutes on the other side at InfoWars.com.

02:58:26.000 If you missed any of the news I covered in the first hour or all the big guests we've had today, go to InfoWars.com to listen there.

02:58:32.000 If not, I'll be back tomorrow on the radio.

02:58:34.000 God bless you all.

02:58:34.000 AllInfoWars.com.

02:58:36.000 Hey, John Harmon, great job.

02:58:43.000 Vic and Diaz.

02:58:44.000 Thank you, sir.

02:58:45.000 And I know that we're on Joe's line, so I'm going to say bye to him right now before you dial in to the other hosts.

02:58:51.000 Joe, I just really want to thank you for coming on, and we're still on air right now on the internet.

02:58:57.000 I really appreciate you spending all this time with me.

02:59:02.000 Thanks for having me on, man.

02:59:02.000 Thanks, buddy.

02:59:03.000 I had a good time.

02:59:04.000 Well, it's just amazing.

02:59:05.000 JoeRogan.net.

02:59:06.000 And let me have you back in a month or so when I have that fellow on about the JFK deal. 0.84

02:59:11.000 I would love to, because that sounds like the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life.

02:59:15.000 Just a single bullet theory alone should let people think that there was more than one assassin.

02:59:20.000 Just the fact that they were willing to pursue such a ridiculous theory should show that there's some sort of a collusion, that there's some sort of a conspiracy.

02:59:27.000 Well, I hope I didn't burn you out with a three-hour interview.

02:59:29.000 No, man, I'm never burned out.

02:59:31.000 I could do this forever.

02:59:32.000 I know, I know.

02:59:32.000 Well, listen, I'm going to get you on real soon, and I'm tempted to call you after the show, but I think we've talked enough.

02:59:38.000 I'll just call you.

02:59:39.000 Are you going to be around later in the week?

02:59:41.000 Yeah, sure man.

02:59:42.000 I'm around.

02:59:42.000 I'm around all week.

02:59:43.000 All right.

02:59:43.000 Well, I'm going to go ahead and book you sometime in the next month to come on for an hour or so and debate that guy about JFK, maybe have another guest on.

02:59:49.000 And, Joe, again, it's great talking to you, and I appreciate everything.

02:59:53.000 All right, brother.

02:59:53.000 I appreciate it, too, man.

02:59:54.000 It was good talking to you.

02:59:55.000 Hey, that was mind-blowing.

02:59:56.000 Take care.

02:59:56.000 Joe Rogan.

02:59:56.000 It was fun, man.

02:59:57.000 Take care.

02:59:58.000 Bye.

02:59:58.000 There he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

02:59:59.000 Joe Rogan.

03:00:00.000 I'm sorry to all the other callers.

03:00:01.000 I don't have time to get to Scott, Rick, Kid, Nick.

03:00:03.000 Should I just take these calls right now?

03:00:05.000 Okay, I'm going to roll through your calls.

03:00:07.000 You know, Joe had to go because he was on the network line, and I don't want to, you know, abuse his time anymore after three hours.

03:00:15.000 But we'll just go ahead and go to your calls.

03:00:16.000 Scott in Colorado.

03:00:17.000 Sorry you couldn't talk to Joe, but you're on the air.

03:00:21.000 Go ahead.

03:00:22.000 I've been listening to you since you were first on Coast to Coast and he calls you the Pit Bull and I want to tell you, you're one of the main reasons I'm being left back to the Lord.

03:00:40.000 I've never heard a Christian soldier like you.

03:00:42.000 Well, thank you, my friend. 0.99

03:00:43.000 Well, we're not one of the fake little pulpit prostitutes here. 0.99

03:00:47.000 We love God, but we're certainly not one of these corporate 501c3 churches.

03:00:52.000 Well, I dig you down deep in the heart and soul, man.

03:00:56.000 My main reason for calling, when 9-1-1 took place, I was sleeping in that morning.

03:01:01.000 I got up before I even watched the news and what was happening, and I logged on to the computer.

03:01:05.000 You know the little AOL windows that are there when you first sign on that tell you the news of the day?

03:01:10.000 Yes, sir.

03:01:11.000 There was one on there, and I might be the only person in the world that saw this, that said, Plain Strikes Camp David.

03:01:19.000 They had a canned story.

03:01:21.000 I remember hearing that.

03:01:22.000 It was already written.

03:01:24.000 It was on the board five minutes later.

03:01:25.000 Gone.

03:01:26.000 They were also reporting all day that Building 7 had blown up.

03:01:28.000 The story was in the can, dude.

03:01:34.000 Joe, if you're listening, I need you to post some kind of information somewhere about what DMT does to the gut.

03:01:41.000 I've got a severely bad pancreas, and if it causes any type of... I think DMT only affects the brain, my friend.

03:01:50.000 Well, I... I'm not advertising DMT.

03:01:52.000 Don't take it, folks!

03:01:53.000 Don't do it!

03:01:54.000 I don't want to do a bad trip and end up and spill over gut problems.

03:01:58.000 I hear you.

03:01:58.000 Hey, I appreciate your call.

03:02:01.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Nick in Georgia.

03:02:02.000 Nick, go ahead.

03:02:04.000 Hey, Alex, uh, Jones, Rogan08.

03:02:06.000 Uh, I wanted to call and talk to you guys about Kennedy and about Booyahki, but you guys are off in Edge City and now you're talking about DMP and you, uh, kind of wanted me to talk about that.

03:02:18.000 Um, so let's see here.

03:02:20.000 Uh, Rogan's talking about Terrence McKenna and, uh, DMP and I just thought I'd throw in that, uh, if he's talking about McKenna, my favorite theory of his is, uh, his book, Fruit of the Gods, where he posits that the, uh, origins of the human religious experience and of human consciousness is actually from, uh, Uh, Proto-Humans Eating Mushrooms on the African Plains.

03:02:37.000 And that, uh, this was the, uh, this was an event that brought, actually brought about consciousness.

03:02:42.000 And, uh, it's just an interesting theory.

03:02:45.000 Well, I mean, you can watch Blue Jays eating ripened China berries that have alcohol in them, and getting drunk and falling off tree branches.

03:02:53.000 There's a lot of primate species and things that take drugs, that like to drink.

03:02:59.000 Most often, berries get fermentation, and there's a lot of animals that like to get intoxicated.

03:03:04.000 So we're not the only creatures that do it.

03:03:06.000 No, you're right, you're right.

03:03:08.000 Okay, listen, I want to talk about Kennedy, and what I really want to do is pick your brain about your new movie.

03:03:12.000 I was just fascinated about that.

03:03:14.000 But also, I'm sure you've heard of Judith A. Baker and you've studied her stuff.

03:03:19.000 What's your take on her?

03:03:21.000 Ring a bell there, Judith A. Baker?

03:03:23.000 Yeah, lady says she's Oswald's mistress. 1.00

03:03:27.000 I don't know about her.

03:03:29.000 You know, I've talked to Marina Oswald.

03:03:31.000 I've gone over it all.

03:03:32.000 I just know that you can't shoot somebody in six seconds with three bullets.

03:03:36.000 I just know you can't shoot to the tree.

03:03:38.000 I know that you had all these tramps who are well-known CIA guys.

03:03:41.000 There's now film footage of them there to kill Bobby Kennedy.

03:03:46.000 Yeah, so now it's so much evidence, even get into JFK, it almost defeats the purpose unless you go over all the evidence.

03:03:52.000 But what's the point?

03:03:53.000 90-plus percent of Americans know the government killed him now, so they've pretty much lost the game.

03:03:58.000 Well, Alex, let me tell you this.

03:04:00.000 A great angle is, and Judith A. Baker ties into this whole story, is she relates the whole Kennedy thing to...

03:04:06.000 No, I know, she's the lady who was in a History Channel special down in New Orleans who dated him. 0.89

03:04:10.000 No, no, but she doesn't talk about it on MinuteTel Kennedy, but she talks about she relates to all of the government special virus cancer program.

03:04:17.000 Actually, she did on a History Channel show talk about the virus.

03:04:20.000 Oh, it is?

03:04:21.000 And she says that Oswald was down in Mexico handing off vials of cancer to a Cuban contact.

03:04:25.000 No, no, I know who she is.

03:04:27.000 It just took a minute for it to percolate down and for me to remember.

03:04:30.000 I hear you.

03:04:31.000 Yeah, she's still alive, isn't she?

03:04:33.000 She's in hiding in Amsterdam or something.

03:04:35.000 She's been traveling around the world trying to hide out.

03:04:37.000 I think she's still alive.

03:04:38.000 Well, let's admit it that she was his mistress.

03:04:41.000 Thanks for the call.

03:04:42.000 I've got to jump here.

03:04:43.000 I see other callers on the board, but do we have other calls?

03:04:47.000 I'm not going to take any more.

03:04:48.000 I'm just out of time.

03:04:49.000 I'm exhausted after four hours and five minutes of doing no breaks most of the time.

03:04:56.000 I am just brain fried now.

03:04:57.000 I feel like I've had my brain drugged to the dirt.

03:05:01.000 But it was certainly enlightening and certainly I'll get a lot of hell for having Joe on for all the weird things he was talking about, but life is weird.

03:05:08.000 And so that's why we had Joe on, and I talk to Joe a few times a year, and he's been so busy, I've been so busy, I haven't really had time to go hang out with him in L.A., but he certainly is an interesting fella, and I'm gonna try to hang out with Joe some more, because he gets more and more interesting, and I appreciate Joe Rogan spending so much time with us today, I appreciate the crew up in Minnesota, appreciate the crew here.

03:05:28.000 I meant to get Burmess, but hey, I'm gonna have him back on next month, Burmess, you can come on with him then.

03:05:34.000 Burmess is something else, ladies and gentlemen.

03:05:38.000 Cheshire Cat smile all the time.

03:05:43.000 I'm going to go jog in 100 degree heat.

03:05:45.000 That'll be my DMT for the day.

03:05:46.000 That'll actually get me, because when I start exercising I have all these wild thoughts and my brain really starts crackling and connections start getting made.

03:05:55.000 But I will be back tomorrow live, 11 a.m.

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Alex Jones Show - May 27, 2008

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