Alex Jones Show - 20080529_Thu_Radio

00:00:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:02.000 You want answers?

00:00:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:33.000 It is the 29th day of May 2008.

00:00:38.000 We are accelerating quickly towards the InfoWars Money Bomb coming up this Saturday.

00:00:42.000 I'll be live for a special edition just on the internet streams at InfoWars.com.

00:00:48.000 And for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, the whole bunch of special guests and your phone calls for the four hours from 8 to midnight Central Standard Time.

00:00:56.000 That's 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. Eastern.

00:00:59.000 Then of course I'll be back Sunday, live, 4 to 6 p.m., but it is Thursday.

00:01:04.000 This week is far from over.

00:01:06.000 Next Wednesday, I'm going to be in Virginia, getting ready for that trip.

00:01:11.000 Burmess will be sitting in Tuesday, though I'll still be in town.

00:01:14.000 Burmess will be sitting in, Jason Burmess is down there making a film with us for the next few months.

00:01:18.000 He'll be sitting in Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

00:01:21.000 And I'll be doing live call-ins as well as other shows on Saturday, and then I come back next, not this Sunday, but the upcoming Sunday, back to Austin, Texas.

00:01:29.000 We'll be covering Bilderberg 2008 in Chantilly, Virginia, right outside the District of Criminals.

00:01:36.000 Hope to see everybody out there.

00:01:39.000 A lot of big guests lined up for you today.

00:01:41.000 Gerald Goldstein, a lawyer here in Texas.

00:01:44.000 He was very upset about the fact that police claim they're going to pull you over and forcibly take your blood on the side of the road.

00:01:50.000 This is an amazing invasion of privacy, invasion of the Fourth Amendment, crossing boundaries.

00:01:56.000 That's what it's all about.

00:01:57.000 Then William Pepper, one of the lawyers for Bobby Kennedy, he'll be coming on, exposing the fact that they murdered not just Bobby, but of course, RFK.

00:02:07.000 So William Pepper joining us.

00:02:09.000 Coming up in one hour, Eric Nordstrom, who came up with the original Ron Paul money bomb, is doing the Infowars money bomb.

00:02:15.000 He's popping in for about 15 minutes in the third hour, and then Richard Gage in the fourth hour today.

00:02:22.000 Richard Gage, architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth.

00:02:26.000 So that is coming up as well.

00:02:29.000 Jam-packed broadcast for you on this Thursday edition.

00:02:33.000 Okay, I have no exaggeration about a hundred plus articles probably here in front of me that I want to go over, and I'm going to attempt in the next 30 minutes to give you a shotgun coverage of these, and then in the third hour, again we've got the money bomb going for only about 15 minutes,

00:02:50.000 I'll spend 45 minutes focusing in on the martial law, Marine Corps story, the Economic angle of what's happening also, more detail on that, and focusing in on the Scott McClellan White House press secretary situation.

00:03:09.000 Just a comment on that.

00:03:11.000 Now, the media is freaking out going, is it true? 0.86

00:03:14.000 Oh my gosh, is he a traitor?

00:03:17.000 Oh, you know, is it a conspiracy theory?

00:03:20.000 We have White House memos, White House documents, we have CIA assessments, we have Bush speechwriters.

00:03:27.000 It's kind of like I had Vincent Bugliosi on a few days ago, and he said, yes, our government in the White House memo wanted to stage an event, and I said, yeah, shooting down, or getting a U.N. plane, or U.S. plane, a U.N. plane shot down and blaming it on Saddam.

00:03:43.000 And he said, yes, you read that in my book.

00:03:45.000 And I didn't go, no, I didn't read that in your hot new book that's in my film Terror Storm out two years ago.

00:03:54.000 But, you know, the point here is, I guess to the media it is a secret, because the media is so lazy and just republishes government press releases.

00:04:03.000 In some cases, it's not even government control and manipulation, though there's news about that today, with CNN and Fox and others engaged in propaganda and lying and covering all this up.

00:04:12.000 But the White House premeditatedly falsified uranium documents, aluminum tube documents, nuke documents.

00:04:20.000 I mean, This is a White House that has the son of the ADL head dressed up on TV saying he's going to kill us with WMDs every two weeks.

00:04:30.000 I mean, this is a government that runs real al-Qaeda attacks on Iran and then tries to ban Dunkin' Donuts ads because a woman's wearing a scarf. 0.51

00:04:39.000 You know, let's do something absurd.

00:04:41.000 Let's get a Dunkin' Donuts ad banned because a woman's got a scarf on, but then let's have the government run al-Qaeda. 1.00

00:04:47.000 It's just disgusting. 0.95

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00:08:20.000 Okay, here is some of the news in front of me.

00:08:23.000 Marines bringing combat training to Indianapolis, Indiana.

00:08:28.000 Czech President Klaus ready to debate Gore on climate change.

00:08:34.000 UN to have the last say on Arctic seabed claims.

00:08:38.000 Now the global government.

00:08:40.000 North American Parliament underway.

00:08:43.000 That's right, North American Parliament operating right now.

00:08:45.000 Jerome Corsi reporting on that.

00:08:46.000 Got him coming on tomorrow.

00:08:49.000 In Miami, Spanish is becoming the primary language.

00:08:55.000 Texas town, immigrant renting rule is struck down.

00:09:00.000 That's right.

00:09:00.000 They can ask you if you're a criminal, they can run a background check on you.

00:09:04.000 But if you're a felony, felon, illegal alien, they are not allowed to stop you.

00:09:09.000 Again, above the law.

00:09:11.000 Federal court criminally ruling that.

00:09:14.000 Because illegal aliens are first-class citizens for now, as they're inducted into being slave Americans. 1.00

00:09:22.000 You see, slaves get in, they don't get out.

00:09:24.000 The fences they're building are to keep Americans in, by the way. 0.87

00:09:28.000 They're just going to legalize with a guest worker program all the illegals. 1.00

00:09:31.000 That's admitted in all the federal documents on land security.

00:09:34.000 Texas town immigrant renting rule is struck down.

00:09:38.000 CNN's executive reporting network execs killed critical White House stories.

00:09:43.000 Oh, really?

00:09:44.000 They did?

00:09:45.000 Tell me something we didn't know.

00:09:49.000 We have a bunch of different articles about Scott McClellan with ex-colleagues ask, what happened?

00:09:54.000 Former Bush aide stuns many with critical new book.

00:09:59.000 Oh my gosh.

00:10:01.000 Pelosi chimes in politically saying, I totally agree.

00:10:05.000 See, it's a jumping ship to the Democrats. 0.75

00:10:07.000 The, uh, his mother, who's had like 18 husbands in his, oh let's be serious, six different husbands. 0.87

00:10:14.000 She's like a black widow here in Austin. 1.00

00:10:16.000 Uh, is her name Strayhorn right now? 0.92

00:10:18.000 Or is it Mc...

00:10:19.000 I mean, literally it changes every six months.

00:10:22.000 Uh, one of the richest, most powerful women in Texas lives right here in Austin, down the street from where we're at. 1.00

00:10:27.000 Very dangerous to even talk about her.

00:10:29.000 Uh, Rupert Murdoch's coming out and saying that The Democrats are going to sweep everything.

00:10:35.000 They're totally taking over, and that's what's going to happen.

00:10:37.000 Probably. Now, Murdoch did predict, along with Newt Gingrich, that it would be Hillary getting the nomination. 0.98

00:10:44.000 So we'll see if he's going to be wrong, but he is one of the top kingmakers in media and culture.

00:10:51.000 It's just going to be a reign of micromanagement, terror, more terror attacks, more control.

00:10:56.000 Suddenly Democrats are going to love it.

00:10:58.000 Suddenly those that didn't like Bush's martial law system are going to love it, because it wasn't Bush's martial law system.

00:11:04.000 They have been quietly integrating Marines, Army, into local police departments, engaging in posse commentatus felonies by the hundreds of thousands since the 70s.

00:11:14.000 We're going to cover that later today.

00:11:16.000 This is a long-term strategic plan that we're now coming to the end of.

00:11:21.000 You know, they, uh, they tend to take your shirt off and cut your hair short and they bind your hands, bind your feet when they carry you up to the guillotine.

00:11:35.000 And this was the shaving the head or cutting the hair so it doesn't get in the way so you get a clean cut.

00:11:39.000 This is the sharpening the blade. 0.95

00:11:41.000 You know, first they had to build the guillotine to cut America's head off. 0.95

00:11:44.000 They had to train the executioners, the police. 0.95

00:11:47.000 They had to get the crowd all ready.

00:11:48.000 They had to prepare the public.

00:11:50.000 And so now the country is having its head stuck in the block and they are pulling the guillotine blade up to the top.

00:12:01.000 And getting ready to pull the lever.

00:12:03.000 So we're at that moment of truth.

00:12:06.000 Kind of like you wait for Christmas when you're a little kid.

00:12:09.000 I mean those summer days that just go on and on.

00:12:12.000 They seem like they're never going to end.

00:12:13.000 But before you know it, it's Christmas.

00:12:15.000 And before you know it, you're 20 years old, you're 30 years old, you're 40 years old, your kids are in college, you're 65, you're a grandparent.

00:12:22.000 Before you know it, you're on your deathbed.

00:12:25.000 Well, we're here.

00:12:26.000 It's kind of the time now.

00:12:27.000 The head's going in. 0.99

00:12:29.000 It's sick and sad and painful for me, but in a lot of ways, a lot of scum that have supported this evil are now going to get what you wanted all along. 1.00

00:12:38.000 A lot of you that giggled and laughed and served the system. 0.99

00:12:40.000 Thank you.

00:12:47.000 McClellan says, uh, WH wanted him to stay silent.

00:12:53.000 White House.

00:12:54.000 White House reacts negatively to ex-AIDS book.

00:12:58.000 Investigators raid German telecom giant in spy probe.

00:13:04.000 Spying for globalists.

00:13:09.000 Like I said, Rupert Murdoch predicts a landslide for the Democrats outside of Reuters.

00:13:14.000 Dollar rises to two-week high as Fisher signals rate cuts, and that rates may rise, that rate cuts may be over interest rates.

00:13:25.000 And again, if you call the dollar going up half a penny in the last two weeks, the dollar rising, fine and dandy.

00:13:33.000 But we see this every month, the cycle.

00:13:36.000 It goes down two steps, goes back up a step, goes back down two steps, and that's the graph.

00:13:41.000 Meanwhile, it just gives people enough hope to not pull out of dollars while the globalists are able to position their wealth.

00:13:48.000 When they finally get done doing that, they'll drop the hammer on you. 0.99

00:13:51.000 Drop the guillotine on you. 0.90

00:13:54.000 New Jersey, Texas court scraps awards from Vioxx cases. 0.97

00:13:59.000 That's right, they admit it caused all those tens of thousands of heart attacks and deaths, but you know, so what?

00:14:05.000 Doesn't matter.

00:14:06.000 Oil prices, Bounce around after dropping U.S. supply.

00:14:11.000 Oil prices surged upwards.

00:14:13.000 Get into that later.

00:14:15.000 Bonds fall again amid rising inflation fears.

00:14:20.000 Banks set aside record $37 billion in losses.

00:14:25.000 FDIC says troubled real estate loans force U.S. banks to boost loan loss provisions to record $37.1 billion in the first quarter of 2008, compared to $9.2 billion in the year-ago period.

00:14:37.000 The Federal Deposit Insurance said Thursday, and the FDIC should get ready for massive bank failures.

00:14:45.000 I've got that report here.

00:14:49.000 There's lots of big mainstream media reports about $15 billion missing, but the only reason you're hearing about that is that stolen computers, stolen rifles, stolen hand grenades, rocket launchers, trucks, weapon systems, Telecommunications, equipment, radar.

00:15:12.000 That's paltry.

00:15:13.000 See, they'll report on low-level thieving, but they won't talk about, well, AP did, but it never got any national attention.

00:15:20.000 A few other papers did.

00:15:20.000 The Oregonian did, when it was 1.9 trill six years ago.

00:15:24.000 It's now well over 4 trillion.

00:15:26.000 Last time I saw a congressional report, that was about a year ago.

00:15:30.000 And people then again say, Their budget's only $800 billion a year for defense, was $400 billion when they started, when Bush got in.

00:15:39.000 Again, the pension funds, the investments, all the money that was piled up by the Pentagon, ferreted into accounts.

00:15:47.000 It's gone.

00:15:49.000 you.

00:15:50.000 And if you try to arrest anybody that did it, they'll just set a nuke off and say a guy in a cave did it, or they'll shot out an ADL head's grandson with a fake beard on that you can see is fake on video, and he'll tell you how he's going to kill you if you don't submit to them stealing everything.

00:16:06.000 If you don't submit to just total looting, stealing, thieving at every level you can imagine, just grabbing up infrastructure, militarizing police, building huge prisons everywhere.

00:16:20.000 Oh, man, I can't believe this is happening.

00:16:22.000 So everybody's talking about $15 billion.

00:16:23.000 That's what their low-level people still...

00:16:27.000 Folks, it was over $60 billion a year ago.

00:16:33.000 I ought to pull up the latest numbers.

00:16:35.000 What the media admits, where C-130s fly in every week with billions of dollars of hundreds, fifties, and twenties, and they give privates $30,000 a year on average, and then tell them, oh, you're part of the corruption now.

00:16:49.000 We can selectively arrest you for that.

00:16:51.000 Again, a colonel gets as much as a million a year, and it's unknown what generals get.

00:16:56.000 I mean, of course those guys only want to be generals there for 3-4 months on average, and then leave for 4 months.

00:17:02.000 Because they're given hundreds of millions.

00:17:04.000 I mean, this is the corrupting.

00:17:06.000 This is how the mob does it. 0.99

00:17:08.000 It's just mob tactics. 0.83

00:17:11.000 And then it comes out, yeah, we're giving everybody money, aren't you, for supporting the troops.

00:17:15.000 And then, just because the troops get 30 grand a piece a year, uh, you know, a private sergeant gets like a 50, 60, 70, 100 grand, depends on what type of sergeant.

00:17:25.000 Can you imagine and so that's why there's been three trillion three trillion pumped in the last five years four months Three trillion pumped into that black hole No, and that's not counting the four trillion I stole out of pension funds and in Pentagon investments under the comprehensive annual financial report system So that's what we see four trillion and then three trillion Seven Trillion.

00:17:58.000 You see, the cops and the militarization of the prisons, that's just a rearguard.

00:18:04.000 All the money's leaving the country.

00:18:06.000 Been leaving for four or five years.

00:18:08.000 They're all leaving.

00:18:09.000 I mean, they're not even having penthouses in New York anymore.

00:18:11.000 They're just going. 1.00

00:18:13.000 And their rearguard action, when we get left holding the bag of total debt, totally on our name, we're just going to be left with a bunch of idiots with shaved heads and black uniforms. 1.00

00:18:24.000 Oh man, this is sick! 1.00

00:18:29.000 This is sick!

00:18:31.000 I mean, there's never been bank robberies like this.

00:18:34.000 There's never been heists.

00:18:35.000 These are the greatest criminals the world's ever seen.

00:18:37.000 That's all Globalist are. 0.93

00:18:38.000 They built an international law system where it's legal for them to steal.

00:18:42.000 They're then international, outside any country.

00:18:46.000 And now they're not done.

00:18:48.000 Now they're going to move on to taxing our breathing, to taxing everything we do, every facet of our lives, inspectors in our homes, jail time for the most petty of things.

00:18:59.000 Like I said, a battery, a AA battery in your backyard, four years in prison.

00:19:03.000 I mean, they're admitting all this.

00:19:05.000 A credit card, you've got to swipe for your carbon credits.

00:19:07.000 And then when you, quote, consume too much, they tax you on your card.

00:19:10.000 Like I told you years ago, that was in the federal plans, international UN plans.

00:19:14.000 They're going to call it a national sales tax.

00:19:16.000 It's a global tax.

00:19:17.000 I mean, folks.

00:19:18.000 And I know you're laughing now.

00:19:20.000 Just as it all happens and as it all unfolds, exactly as we told you it would, just remember I warned you.

00:19:31.000 I mean, I cannot express how bad it is.

00:19:36.000 They've sucked us dry so we don't ever get the country back under our control and go arrest them.

00:19:42.000 They are going to put us into martial law.

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00:24:39.000 Like every day I watch it and listen and call them all suckers.

00:24:43.000 They wanted me about Osama or whatever. 0.94

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00:24:57.000 Yeah, I'm bitter, I'm angry, I'm upset.

00:25:00.000 I have all the official government documents.

00:25:02.000 I have Marines that were illegally raiding American gun owners' homes in the 80s in Virginia.

00:25:08.000 Part of a huge secret martial law takeover plan.

00:25:12.000 They've been doing this for decades.

00:25:13.000 I know all these urban warfare drills are to acclimate and prepare the public to have their cities taken over by the U.S. military.

00:25:20.000 I go into the YouTube and video sites where they have clips of my films and I see marines and cops talking about how I'm a traitor and need to be arrested and so whatever they're getting ready to take over America.

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00:25:32.000 I think most of them are going to go for it and do it.

00:25:35.000 And they think Power and authority is where everything flows from and if the government tells them to do something, that's fine.

00:25:42.000 Now you have the other crowd that will conversely deny all of this is happening and say the Marines are just going in to that city in Indianapolis, Indiana.

00:25:51.000 They're just going in there to find out what's going on and to train them how to fight al-Qaeda in Iraq.

00:25:58.000 Meanwhile, our government publicly runs al-Qaeda in Iraq and is commanding them and running operations for four plus years attacking the Iranians.

00:26:07.000 So, it's just unbelievable.

00:26:10.000 It's unbelievable that this type of stuff is going on.

00:26:15.000 Marines bringing combat training to Indianapolis.

00:26:20.000 Indianapolis Star, listen to this, U.S. Marine helicopters will land at the old Eagle Gate Consumer Mall, Brookside Park, and other Indianapolis locations when the city becomes a mock battlefield next week.

00:26:31.000 About 2,300 Marines, they bring in the new ones for this.

00:26:35.000 Uh, from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

00:26:39.000 We'll conduct urban warfare training from Wednesday through June 19th in and around Indianapolis.

00:26:44.000 Now, they tell the low-level grunts that this is for overseas in, quote, in case there's an emergency in America.

00:26:49.000 But then they field them out into other operations after that.

00:26:52.000 Most of the troops will be deployed in the Indiana State Fairgrounds and the Raytheon facility at Holt Road, uh, said Debbie Fletcher.

00:26:59.000 For the Indianapolis-Marion County Emergency Management Agency.

00:27:02.000 See, that's who they're working with.

00:27:04.000 Oh, getting to know the local emergency managers.

00:27:06.000 We don't want anyone thinking that there's an invasion happening or that we've declared martial law or something like that, Fletcher said.

00:27:13.000 We've got to get her on. 0.53

00:27:14.000 We've got to get her on. 0.53

00:27:20.000 The Marines have been cleared by state, federal, and local authorities, Fletcher said.

00:27:24.000 The unit's commander promised to keep, try to keep the noise at a minimum, and gave the neighbors plenty of warning.

00:27:30.000 It goes on to say they'll be, quote, running roadside checkpoints.

00:27:32.000 Now, in Swansboro, North Carolina, in Des Moines, Iowa, we have newscasts showing this.

00:27:37.000 We have video we got ourselves, as well.

00:27:40.000 The Marines will actually pull over real cars, but a cop will pull you over, and the Marines come over and do the search.

00:27:46.000 I mean, total Indo-Paci-Commentatus, totally criminal, Uh, even the way they've, quote, amended it is, but they don't care. 0.99

00:27:53.000 Don't forget it was the Marines that the Bush senior's, uh, father, Prescott Bush, tried to hire, uh, and have Smedley Butler, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, he testified before Congress, to overthrow the government and use Marines as the main army to do it.

00:28:09.000 So the Marines have always been who they have their eye on to do this.

00:28:13.000 And they've given them questionnaires in the 80s and 90s, and it's just, it's, it's unbelievable treason.

00:28:18.000 It's Wendley Butler, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, in line to be commandant.

00:28:22.000 And he said, I will not do this, as the commandant of the Marine Corps.

00:28:25.000 And they said, OK, you're not commandant.

00:28:26.000 And it's supposed to be like a captain's list in the old British Navy, the way the Marines are set up, as they go back to that, is that it's a succession there, unlike the Army and other things.

00:28:37.000 There's somewhat of a succession there, as well, in the Admiral's list.

00:28:40.000 But with the Marine Corps, it's really a succession.

00:28:43.000 And he was supposed to be the greatest commandant ever.

00:28:45.000 I mean, none of them had two...

00:28:46.000 Nobody's got two Medal of Honors but Smedley Butler.

00:28:49.000 The guy makes Audie Murphy look like a...

00:28:52.000 I don't want to say a wimp, but... 1.00

00:28:53.000 Pale in significance, we'll just say that.

00:28:56.000 Unbelievable. He said, no, I will not take over and have a fascist dictatorship, and I won't be the military general that runs it.

00:29:04.000 Oh, God help us.

00:29:05.000 But we don't have generals like that now.

00:29:07.000 I mean, if you're a general in the military that's been in Iraq, you've taken hundreds of millions, or you've been killed.

00:29:12.000 That's why so many have been murdered and killed and, quote, committed suicide.

00:29:16.000 It goes on to say our aim in Indianapolis is to expose our Marines to realistic scenarios and stress posed by operating in an actual urban community, thereby increasing the proficiency in built-up areas.

00:29:26.000 And Colonel Mark Dennis, commander of the 26th MEU, said in a statement, while some of the activity will take place in Camp Atterbury, residents in many areas will see helicopters flying around, military vehicles on the roads, and Marines patrolling on foot, as well as checkpoints.

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00:33:10.000 It's going to be a bloody weekend in San Antonio.

00:33:13.000 For the first time ever, if you refuse to submit to a breathalyzer, police Well, take your blood, with or without your consent.

00:33:20.000 Amanda Stanzlis is live with that story.

00:33:22.000 Amanda? Well, we all know that Memorial Day weekend is a big weekend for barbecues, for a few beers maybe.

00:33:28.000 So, the idea behind this no-refusal weekend is to keep these roads safe.

00:33:33.000 But, the debate becomes whether taking blood is fair.

00:33:37.000 This memorial weekend is a no-refusal weekend.

00:33:42.000 Yes, this weekend.

00:33:43.000 If you get stopped by cops because they think you were drinking and driving, you'll be asked to take a breathalyzer.

00:33:49.000 You refuse, and they will take your blood. 0.91

00:33:52.000 All right.

00:33:52.000 I think that's just not fair.

00:33:53.000 All right, that's the propaganda.

00:33:55.000 By the way, I'm here on South Lamar in Austin.

00:33:57.000 There's guys out with sandwich boards for sandwich shops, for tax preparing, for a furniture store.

00:34:05.000 Right now, I drove to work this morning and saw them.

00:34:07.000 And, uh, but if I go out there with a Ron Paul sign, there's a good chance, because it's happened.

00:34:12.000 Cops will pull over and say, you can't be here, you can't stand with the sign.

00:34:15.000 They just lost another lawsuit over that.

00:34:16.000 They don't care, it's just our money.

00:34:18.000 Because they've been told, for everyone's safety, you don't have a First Amendment.

00:34:22.000 See, it's always for your safety.

00:34:24.000 And, oh, we gotta stop the drunk drivers, that's why they're building liquor stores the size of aircraft carriers. 0.99

00:34:29.000 Uh, I mean, now, literally, there's one in Kyle, outside Austin, the size of an Nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

00:34:36.000 It's the size of a Walmart.

00:34:37.000 I mean, the thing is, I say aircraft carrier because it's long.

00:34:41.000 It's just gigantic.

00:34:44.000 It's so huge, I've never seen anything like it.

00:34:48.000 And of course, when the cops aren't stumbling around drunk, everybody knows they're the biggest lushes out there. 1.00

00:34:53.000 And do I want somebody weaving drunk in front of me?

00:34:55.000 No. I see drunks all the time weaving around down the road.

00:34:58.000 And that's what we need, is cops out picking them out.

00:35:01.000 But no, it's random checkpoints and random enforcement areas in these roving teams and shotgun effect, as they call it, where they just randomly pull you over now and come over and inspect you and then let you go.

00:35:12.000 And that's not America.

00:35:13.000 Now, in some areas of Illinois, Ohio, California, Tucson, Arizona, they do it in Denver, outside Denver, in Colorado.

00:35:21.000 I mean, I've seen hundreds of articles just all over the country.

00:35:23.000 Florida, they take your blood on the side of the road. 0.89

00:35:27.000 on the side of the road.

00:35:28.000 In some areas of Texas, they're doing that.

00:35:31.000 In other areas, they call it into a judge, and then it's really a fake warrant, and they call it back and claim there's a warrant, and the cop sticks a needle.

00:35:39.000 This is about invasion of your privacy, about getting across barriers.

00:35:43.000 It's about letting you know who the boss is.

00:35:45.000 And joining us is a Texas lawyer who spoke out on the piece, Gerald Goldstein, and we'll get his take on everything that's happening here.

00:35:54.000 Mr. Goldstein, thanks for coming on.

00:35:55.000 My pleasure, Alex.

00:35:57.000 What do you think about those other statements I made about how I don't have a First Amendment anymore in Austin?

00:36:01.000 The cops tell me I can't stand right next to a guy with a sandwich board on the sidewalk for a furniture place, that I don't have a free speech either.

00:36:09.000 Not just they're going to take my blood, but now there's no freedom either.

00:36:13.000 Well, if you keep speaking up for free speech and people keep suing them, sooner or later the public will get wind of that and take account of that.

00:36:21.000 I think Austin's lost more than 50 lawsuits for this.

00:36:26.000 Well, you know, at some point, when it's our money, we have a voice in that.

00:36:33.000 And if the citizenry wants to take action, there's always the ballot box.

00:36:40.000 Oh, with those special die-bold machines with all the convicted felons caught admitting they're stealing all the elections?

00:36:47.000 Exactly. Yeah, things are getting dark right now in the country.

00:36:51.000 Let's get in the blood. 0.96

00:36:52.000 I'm sorry, I digress.

00:36:53.000 Tell us a little bit about Gerald Goldstein, your practice, and why you got involved in this news piece.

00:36:58.000 And they gave you about 10 seconds, Senate, what you really wanted to say.

00:37:01.000 Well, I'm a past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and also the Texas Association.

00:37:08.000 I, like you, am a concerned citizen that is worried that we seem to be giving up and throwing away our constitutional rights and liberties in order to protect and preserve those precious rights.

00:37:19.000 Thank you.

00:37:20.000 Absolutely. Tell us about the particular in San Antonio and what's going on there and what the law and the rulings and precedent really say.

00:37:29.000 Well, in essence, you were correct when you described what's going on.

00:37:34.000 Taking blood is considered, at least by Supreme Court cases, a very intrusive concept.

00:37:43.000 It's different than an intoxicalizer, what we used to call a breathalyzer, in that sticking a needle in someone is intrusive.

00:37:51.000 And for that reason, they technically require a search warrant under Texas State.

00:37:57.000 It's a forced medical procedure.

00:37:59.000 Exactly. Yeah,

00:38:43.000 they weren't even reviewing his show.

00:38:45.000 This is judicial tyranny.

00:38:47.000 You're not supposed to have rubber stamp warrants, are you?

00:38:50.000 Exactly. Now let me stop you,

00:39:20.000 sir. Let me just ask you if you're aware, but it sounds like you are, in Arizona, in Colorado, in Illinois, they are taking blood, just the police are just doing it.

00:39:30.000 Right, that's not true in Colorado yet, but in the other states, all of us are concerned about that.

00:39:35.000 And by the way, the police officers, you know, you could have a police officer that's trained medically.

00:39:41.000 Okay, the media may have gotten that wrong.

00:39:43.000 But the Denver Papers did report that in the county next to it, they were taking blood without warrants.

00:39:47.000 Right. What I think is, those were EMTs.

00:39:50.000 They were actually trained, even though they were police officers.

00:39:53.000 But they're still not a warrant to suck the blood, is what I'm saying.

00:39:57.000 Exactly. This is unbelievable. 0.91

00:39:59.000 So not even a rubber stamp.

00:40:01.000 They're foregoing that.

00:40:02.000 Now, you talked about how the rubber stamp is improper and unconstitutional.

00:40:06.000 Now, can we talk about without even the rubber stamp, just foregoing the kangaroo court?

00:40:12.000 Well, the Supreme Court, there's a case, actually, Schmerber v.

00:40:16.000 California, that actually talks about the requirement for a warrant for an intrusive body invasion like that.

00:40:23.000 And the reason for that is pretty obvious.

00:40:26.000 There are medical procedures.

00:40:28.000 Nobody wants to have a needle.

00:40:30.000 What if a cop, an untrained police officer, for example, uses the same needle?

00:40:35.000 You know, you've got all sorts of health concerns well beyond the safety of our roads, where someone with a dirty needle is injecting you.

00:40:44.000 You've got hepatitis C. You've got HIV.

00:40:46.000 There's all sorts of reasons why the last thing we need is to have untrained professionals sticking needles in each other.

00:40:51.000 Okay.

00:40:54.000 Well remember how they tried in 2002 to train the police to forcibly inoculate the public during emergencies of the National Health Services Act and then that failed because the cops wouldn't take the vaccines.

00:41:04.000 So I think there's something larger here because we know federal funds are the grants that are pushing this.

00:41:10.000 Now your take on that, sir?

00:41:11.000 Well, ultimately the taxpayer pays for all law enforcement measures.

00:41:17.000 And there's an ancillary, secondary concern here, is for the most part when you get the...

00:41:23.000 Some people don't like to be stuck with needles by anybody.

00:41:26.000 And there's a question about the compulsion.

00:41:29.000 For example, a lot of people will opt for the intoxilizer, even though it's supposed to be consensual, in lieu of having somebody stick a needle in them.

00:41:36.000 Yeah, no, it's a threat.

00:41:37.000 How consensual is it when somebody says, I'm going to stab you with this thing or you take this, you know, breathalyzer?

00:41:43.000 Well, I've seen reports where the cops taser you if you refuse the breathalyzer.

00:41:48.000 Well, they shouldn't in Texas.

00:41:50.000 It's total insanity.

00:41:51.000 Well, I mean, just at the organic level, as a human being looking at this, imagine if I was seeing old film footage of Nazi Germany, and if they weren't just rounding the people up to go to the death camps or the work camps.

00:42:03.000 Imagine if I saw images of guys in black uniforms drawing blood.

00:42:07.000 I don't want to start another fight, but quite frankly, you know, the Third Reich didn't impose its will on people. 0.62

00:42:12.000 People that Hitler rode into power on a groundswell of popularity fanned by the same kind of fears you've been seeing today.

00:42:20.000 Fear of people that are different.

00:42:21.000 Fear of outsiders.

00:42:22.000 Fear of foreign.

00:42:23.000 The same kind of things that people have a tendency to give up rights very often in times of crisis.

00:42:30.000 But what they don't realize is that's a non-reversible cog.

00:42:33.000 What happens is if you think giving up your right is any way to protect and preserve that right, you're kidding yourself.

00:42:39.000 Well, Mr. Goldstein, you're absolutely right.

00:42:41.000 History shows that.

00:42:42.000 Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin constantly talked about that.

00:42:45.000 If you'll give up liberty for so-called security, you're going to get neither.

00:42:48.000 And historically, what you should be afraid of is the organized state.

00:42:52.000 It is always the great engine of mass murder and enslavement. 1.00

00:42:56.000 Hundreds of millions killed by the state last century, and these poor ignorant fools have no idea. 1.00

00:43:01.000 I mean, just the archetypal image of guys in paramilitary outfits sucking your blood. 1.00

00:43:06.000 I mean, this is insane, sir. 0.99

00:43:08.000 There's no question about it, Alex.

00:43:09.000 If you'll keep preaching and get some more converts, we can actually stop this thing, because until the citizenry is willing to insist on their rights, we all are in danger of losing.

00:43:19.000 Well, Mr. Goldstein, I want to get your take on this.

00:43:21.000 A, how do we stop it?

00:43:22.000 B, you know, legally, what are they violating here so people know what to say if they come up on the bloodsuckers? 0.86

00:43:28.000 But the larger issue here is, you know what it's going to be.

00:43:32.000 It's not just, if you don't give me a breathalyzer, I'll take a shot.

00:43:34.000 Now district attorneys, I saw one in Illinois, said, well, we want blood anyways because it's better in court.

00:43:40.000 So next, it's just, we're going to take your blood.

00:43:42.000 They're already taking DNA at checkpoints now.

00:43:45.000 Well, all of that should concern the citizenry.

00:43:47.000 You know, at some point here, we may have, you know, the Orwellian nightmare, you know, is almost a thing of the past.

00:43:57.000 We've become accustomed to accepting these kind of practices.

00:44:01.000 And it's only, you know, it's only when you're vigilant.

00:44:07.000 It's only when you're willing to protest.

00:44:08.000 It's only when you're willing to assert your rights.

00:44:11.000 And, you know, these rights are designed to protect the innocent, not just the guilty.

00:44:16.000 And it's important for people who aren't in trouble, people who aren't driving while they're drunk, but understand the necessity for insisting on protecting everyone's rights.

00:44:29.000 Because it's only when we protect the rights of the least of us that the rest of us can expect to be protected ourselves.

00:44:34.000 By the way, I should have told people your bio.

00:44:37.000 You're just an absolutely, I mean, amazing lawyer with just an incredible pedigree, running some of the biggest national associations and, you know, one of the most looked up to experts on constitutional rights.

00:44:51.000 You should say that.

00:44:52.000 Well, no, I'm just looking at your bio here.

00:44:54.000 It's amazing.

00:44:54.000 In a nutshell, what do you do if you roll up, you haven't been drinking, no, I don't want to violate my Fourth Amendment, no, I don't want you making me do a breathalyzer, intimidating me into it.

00:45:03.000 What do you do when they grab you, they'll taser you if you resist, they're coming with the needles?

00:45:07.000 How do you go after them after the fact?

00:45:09.000 Well, the natural inclination of everyone, and I will tell you that I've referred to Absolutely,

00:45:48.000 And that's why you have a right to counsel is because to have someone else there, to have a lawyer there, to have someone who will speak up to your rights and mean it, not with a smirk, not with a smile, but because they're serious about it.

00:45:58.000 And judges understand that.

00:46:00.000 And, you know, it is only when all the citizenry stand up for their rights and stand up for the rights, not just in the courtroom, not just on the side of the road, but at the ballot box.

00:46:11.000 Because these folks, for the most part, elected public officials, both in Texas, district attorneys and judges, have to run for re-election.

00:46:19.000 And if they aren't respecting the rights of the citizens, it's up to the citizens to make sure that they will, that they do, and if not, to get someone in office who will protect individual citizens'rights and liberties.

00:46:33.000 Well, sir, what would you do?

00:46:34.000 I'm going to Virginia next week to cover a big elite government meeting, and I almost bet, because this happens all over the country, cops are going to walk up while I'm on a city sidewalk, you know, there in Virginia, and they're going to come up and say, you're not allowed to be here with your cameras, I don't care if you have a press pass, just leave.

00:46:53.000 And then there'll be a national crew there, they'll probably leave them alone.

00:46:57.000 It always hurts my, I mean, I'm sad for them, stabbing America in the heart.

00:47:01.000 Or if I was to have a protest sign, there's going to be protesters there.

00:47:04.000 I bet cops will come up and say, leave, you don't have a permit.

00:47:07.000 And of course, that's how all this works.

00:47:09.000 They turn a right into a privilege.

00:47:10.000 A permit is a license to do something that would be illegal.

00:47:13.000 I don't need a permit.

00:47:14.000 You know, it started out with blocking roads for parades.

00:47:17.000 That's one thing, but not being on the street corner.

00:47:19.000 I mean, what would you do about all these no-protest zones and just this incredible avarice to attack the heart of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the heart of what makes the red, white, and blue so great?

00:47:29.000 Well, you know, whether we go and look at Gandhi or one of our own Martin Luther King, there is a point at which, when citizens' rights are in jeopardy, that citizens have an innate, not necessarily a recognized right, but an innate right to protest.

00:47:48.000 And that protest can include civil disobedience.

00:47:50.000 Civil disobedience that understands, hey, look, I may be punished for this, but I want the system to understand that I'm not willing to accede to this without protest.

00:48:00.000 And large political movements that have changed the course of the world, and particularly our country, have been started with the seed of civil disobedience.

00:48:13.000 I'm not suggesting that everybody should go out and violate every law they don't agree with.

00:48:18.000 But at some point, in some place, in some times, it is necessary to teach those entrusted and who are sworn to preserve and protect us that they have an obligation to follow the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, just like the citizens do.

00:48:35.000 Well, well, Mr. Goldstein, I also want to ask you, why do you think an Austin cop, overnight, now will come up and say, you can't protest, you can't demonstrate, they know they've lost suits, they know they're in trouble for it, but they're being ordered to do this?

00:48:51.000 How did our government, I mean, just right here in Austin, I know you live in Central.

00:48:54.000 You can't get away with it, Alex.

00:48:55.000 But why would he want to hurt America?

00:48:57.000 Why would you want to do that?

00:48:58.000 Because it's convenient, because it makes their job simpler.

00:49:01.000 People don't like the appropriate, people don't like the disruption, people don't like to be confronted with things they don't want to see.

00:49:08.000 That's another thing, a couple always walk up and say, we got a complaint, you're out here on the sidewalk.

00:49:12.000 Well, so what?

00:49:14.000 And by the way, usually the complaint relates to what you're saying, not how you're doing it.

00:49:18.000 Exactly. And the point of the First Amendment is the Bill of Rights were designed to protect the minority from the majority. 0.64

00:49:25.000 You don't have to have the money.

00:49:26.000 If all this permitted is a popular view, we don't need the Constitution.

00:49:33.000 The Constitution was designed to protect the unpopular from the popular.

00:49:44.000 movements start.

00:49:45.000 That's how we change attitudes.

00:49:47.000 Very often, if all we needed was the popular, the mainstream, the majority's point of view, we wouldn't need a Bill of Rights.

00:49:57.000 The framers of our council.

00:49:59.000 No. Bottom line, bottom line, this is unconstitutional, taking blood without a warrant.

00:50:11.000 taking blood without a warrant is unconstitutional but they're doing it why it's insane well you know this because they can't so stand up to him Alex I got to run but I want to tell you that thank you for giving the opportunity to produce but sure any website so you want to fire up people learn more No, just be vigilant.

00:50:31.000 Use the web.

00:50:32.000 Use the internet.

00:50:34.000 It's a remarkable tool that, unlike many of our cities and towns, doesn't have a sensor.

00:50:41.000 All right.

00:50:41.000 Well, thank you so much for joining us.

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00:52:29.000 But as horrible as it was, it was done, done out of desperation by a Moabite king who was fighting a desperate battle against three opposing kings.

00:52:40.000 It, of course, was long, long ago that he did it, and it did work.

00:52:45.000 The raging battle was going against him greatly, and he was about to be overcome and overrun, so he did it, as horrible and difficult as it was to do.

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00:53:02.000 It worked.

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00:53:07.000 This is how it is said in the greatest storybook, and I quote, And there came great wrath against Israel, and they departed from him and returned to their own land." What did he do?

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00:54:26.000 so anti-freedom.

00:54:30.000 You heard him admit all over the country without even having warrants.

00:54:34.000 Now in San Antonio, it's a fake rubber stamp warrant.

00:54:38.000 Which is almost worse in a way.

00:54:43.000 How they've warped the government, the police, to follow this and go along with this.

00:54:50.000 You know what?

00:54:51.000 I want to go into a clip.

00:54:52.000 I'm going to play the rest of this coming up, uh, not this next hour, but the hour after it.

00:54:57.000 I want to play a clip from the road to tyranny because this is a Marine Corps officer and he showed me all the documents.

00:55:07.000 He'd been a police officer and he started a computer company and was, I was over at his mansion visiting when this happened because he ran into an army Checkpoint on I-35.

00:55:15.000 He'd heard my show, made him so mad, he wanted to talk to me.

00:55:18.000 He showed me all the documents, photos.

00:55:19.000 I was already aware of the programs by then, but when he did it in 88, 89, it was secret.

00:55:25.000 And I want to play a few minutes of this, and then we'll come back with another guest coming on.

00:55:29.000 But when you hear the Marines, quote, want to train for urban warfare, this is to acclimate the public.

00:55:35.000 Just like when you sit in your backyard every day, drinking iced tea, You notice that the owls will start coming out and looking at you.

00:55:42.000 You notice the squirrels will come up near you.

00:55:44.000 That's what the marines in your cities are about.

00:55:47.000 Acclimating everybody.

00:55:48.000 And I have all the documents.

00:55:49.000 I've interviewed emergency managers.

00:55:51.000 It's not my opinion.

00:55:52.000 We have discovered that the military industrial complex that just made 7 trillion off this fake war and stealing wants it all, folks.

00:56:01.000 And they brainwashed the cops.

00:56:02.000 And they're coming for us.

00:56:04.000 And they're going to put carbon taxes on all of us.

00:56:06.000 I mean, this is going to be a reign of terror.

00:56:09.000 It doesn't have to happen.

00:56:12.000 Sucking our blood warrantlessly on the side of the road isn't freedom. 0.94

00:56:16.000 It's hyper-tyranny. 0.99

00:56:17.000 Here it is.

00:56:22.000 Our team was in Swansboro, North Carolina back in 2000.

00:56:26.000 In February of 2002, two special forces trainees were killed by a sheriff's deputy.

00:56:31.000 You ask why?

00:56:32.000 They were trying to disarm him.

00:56:34.000 They were trying to take over local law enforcement.

00:56:37.000 This is the new type of training that our military are being given to overthrow the civilian government, the elected government, right here in the United States.

00:56:47.000 And shockingly enough, there were actually two cases of this in the same week in North Carolina where they were being trained to overthrow the civilian government.

00:56:54.000 Cover to your right also.

00:56:57.000 This looks like a gaggle, Mr.

00:56:59.000 Wright. Get these lines straight out.

00:57:01.000 Straighten it out just to your right.

00:57:04.000 Get your group ready.

00:57:05.000 Sir, group prepared, ready, go, sir.

00:57:12.000 Every day in America, militarized SWAT teams kill innocent people, and they're rarely held accountable.

00:57:31.000 More often, they kill their own officers, and still they're not held accountable.

00:57:35.000 What's happening in America?

00:57:37.000 How do they become so militarized?

00:57:39.000 We interviewed a former Marine Corps officer who in 1989, while he was in the Marine Corps, was serving search warrants on American citizens'homes and businesses.

00:57:47.000 To start at the beginning for us, a little bit about your past, how you first got involved in the military, And some of the things you did, and then later in life, some of the questions that you started raising yourself after you've been a police officer.

00:58:05.000 Okay. I started out, I joined the Marines.

00:58:08.000 Tested real high on the ASVAB, which is the Armed Forces Vocational Amplitude Battery.

00:58:13.000 Did real well in that and was an MP5800 Military Police.

00:58:17.000 From that I was sent over to various duty stations.

00:58:23.000 It started interest in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take part in joint...

00:58:28.000 We're gonna come back and play five more minutes of this thing at William Pepperdine.

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01:00:00.000 You want answers?

01:00:02.000 Well, so does he.

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01:00:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:13.000 I still had an interest in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take part in joint military police and civilian police exercises.

01:00:21.000 We've seen the Urban Warfare training all across the country, the black helicopters, the special forces in cities, and it seems like it's been ratcheted up in the last five years from just basic training to actual live fire in city streets.

01:00:38.000 What type of relationship did you have with law enforcement when you were in the Marine Corps?

01:00:42.000 Very cohesive.

01:00:43.000 There's a lot of interaction.

01:00:46.000 1988 and 1989, like I told you prior, I helped assist in three search warrants.

01:00:53.000 A lot of entry team operations giving civilian law enforcement advice and critiquing how they're doing that to rape such as crack houses or supposed terrorist organizations as far as multiple entry points of a home, whether it be through the roof, the windows, in front door, Or a combination of all at the same time.

01:01:14.000 So you were actively, as a member of the United States Marine Corps active duty, out with civilian law enforcement serving search warrants to homes?

01:01:26.000 That's correct.

01:01:28.000 There weren't missions, they were called exercises, but it was actual with real, what we call combatants, real live.

01:01:34.000 It was the real deal, helping execute search warrants.

01:01:39.000 Late 80s.

01:01:41.000 I've actually been on point with an MP5 and I was not in a police uniform.

01:01:46.000 I had a police vest on and a police jacket and black BDUs.

01:01:53.000 And these were obviously drug dealers?

01:01:56.000 One, maybe.

01:01:57.000 What were the other raids concerning?

01:02:01.000 Pawn shop owners.

01:02:02.000 One was a pawn shop owner and the other was for a joint working with ATF.

01:02:09.000 As a member of the Marine Corps, David, you're telling us you raided a civilian business with the BATF going after guns?

01:02:21.000 It was the business owner's home.

01:02:23.000 Oh, the business owner's home.

01:02:26.000 The homes were civilian homes in some upper middle class to white collar homes.

01:02:34.000 We're going to play all of it coming up next hour.

01:02:39.000 But this is the point here.

01:02:42.000 People think that I just get on air and say they're getting ready for martial law and these urban warfare takeover drills are that.

01:02:49.000 I've interviewed emergency managers.

01:02:51.000 I've interviewed police chiefs where the Delta Force comes in from the army with bags of money trying to buy them off.

01:02:58.000 Why do you think they've flown 60 plus billion dollars worth of cash into the troops?

01:03:04.000 It's to corrupt them.

01:03:06.000 Every time the Army and the Marine Corps raided citizens' homes, that was a violation of posse comitatus, each case is a serious felony.

01:03:18.000 Now they've watered it down to say, well, during emergencies we can't.

01:03:23.000 But they're already covertly doing it everywhere.

01:03:27.000 And the Austin cops, I know we've got military here for at least seven years, you don't think I don't know?

01:03:34.000 You don't think I don't know what you're up to and what you're doing?

01:03:37.000 I mean, this is all over the country, but right where I live, this treason's going on.

01:03:40.000 Out at the Bergstrom Airport.

01:03:43.000 It's a hive of villainy. 0.94

01:03:48.000 And let me tell you, you're the target, folks.

01:03:50.000 You are the target. 0.98

01:03:51.000 And those murdering criminals from the BATF, murdered old people at Waco, everything else they've done, I mean, they are a bunch of lawless crooks. 0.96

01:03:59.000 You understand? 1.00

01:04:00.000 They are criminals! 0.90

01:04:01.000 With the military engaging American people. 0.98

01:04:04.000 You know, I have all this footage of them pulling buses over the army and searching the buses.

01:04:08.000 And then these people are in there posting on YouTube going, yeah, I've done that.

01:04:11.000 I'm the military.

01:04:12.000 Yeah, we're running ops.

01:04:13.000 It's good for the country.

01:04:14.000 It's post 9-11.

01:04:15.000 No, it was before 9-11.

01:04:19.000 It was before 9-11.

01:04:21.000 And then you said before 9-11 and all your documents, there'll soon be a terror attack and then we're gonna take over.

01:04:27.000 See, I've got your whole game plan.

01:04:28.000 Most of you don't even know what you're playing in.

01:04:32.000 These are foreign corporations that are now looting the country. 1.00

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01:04:37.000 They're not even going to be here.

01:04:39.000 They're just, they're folding the country up.

01:04:42.000 Good job.

01:04:43.000 Really good job.

01:04:44.000 You're destroying the country.

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01:07:51.000 Ease the T-Rex of political talk.

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01:07:59.000 Well, William Pepper has seen quite a bit.

01:08:02.000 He's a top American human rights lawyer.

01:08:06.000 He's also a barrister in England.

01:08:08.000 He's friends with Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, advisors to him.

01:08:14.000 I've tried to go over everything he's done.

01:08:15.000 It's quite a life.

01:08:17.000 His book, Act of State, the murder of Martin Luther King, was out in hardback.

01:08:23.000 It just came out in paperback.

01:08:24.000 It's excellent.

01:08:25.000 I've read it.

01:08:26.000 Open and shut that they killed him and had a patsy as they always do.

01:08:29.000 We have a government documents like Operation Northwoods describes how to frame patsies. 0.98

01:08:34.000 It's very disgusting.

01:08:36.000 How they do it, how they kill who they want, how they do what they want.

01:08:39.000 Always wrapping themselves in the flag when they're the ones destroying our name, our currency, our future. 0.78

01:08:45.000 That's disgusting.

01:08:46.000 But I want to get him to talk about the murder, you know, condensed version, in the 50 minutes we've got with him, of Martin Luther King, which he's the expert on.

01:08:54.000 He didn't even believe it for a while.

01:08:56.000 He had to learn the evidence to go through it, but he's the preeminent expert on that.

01:08:59.000 Interviewed many times, Jerry and Gerald Ray and others.

01:09:01.000 But then, now it's coming out open and shut, BBC, NBC, everybody admitting.

01:09:06.000 Three CIA section bosses there at the Ambassador Hotel.

01:09:11.000 Well, I think they probably will still.

01:09:37.000 They also, Alex, also use that kind of condemnation as we go forward in the Bob Kennedy case.

01:09:48.000 I have agreed to become lead counsel for Sirhan, having gone through that file very carefully over the course of the last year.

01:10:00.000 And after his former lawyer died, Larry Teeter died.

01:10:06.000 I came on, I discussed the case with Larry many times and of course encouraged him, but as you rightly say, I think it's now pretty much opened up and that doesn't mean there's going to be any less obstruction.

01:10:22.000 In fact, I'm finding more and more obstruction in the state of California from the Department of Corrections to some basic work that we have to do with Sirhan.

01:10:32.000 And so they're going to make it as tough as they can, but I think from my reading of the evidence at this point, this is actually an easier case than Martin's assassination.

01:10:46.000 At this point in time, I think it's an easier case to open up, just in terms of the factual and the forensic evidence.

01:10:55.000 Using the conspiracy theory label, I've seen now the White House is calling it Exaggerations, conspiracy theories with Scott McClellan.

01:11:03.000 We don't need Scott McClellan to tell us that they lied about WMDs and engaged in deception propaganda knowingly and willfully because we have all the documents, we have the executive orders, we have the White House memo, the Downing Street memo, we have the CIA assessments where Bush blacked it out.

01:11:22.000 So we know they lied.

01:11:23.000 We don't need Scott McClellan to tell us this, but the fact that they would say he's lying now, it's just incredible.

01:11:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:33.000 Well, I'm afraid you've got a gang of criminals there, and the crimes they've committed are the worst imaginable.

01:11:43.000 When you look at international law, international human rights law, we see a whole range of crimes against humanity.

01:11:51.000 War crimes, crimes of war, and of course the number one Nuremberg crime, that of waging a war of aggression.

01:11:59.000 So these people have got to be held accountable at some point in time, and I've asked some of my colleagues at Oxford and some over here to begin to put together a bill of indictment related to everything that's going on with respect to Uh, to the, to extraordinary rendition, and torture, and aggression, and...

01:12:20.000 Well, look at Vincent Mugliosi.

01:12:21.000 He's coming out with a book saying Bush is a murderer, and he can convict him right now.

01:12:26.000 Yeah, I think, I think that, uh, there's a groundswell of that kind of opinion, and, uh, I think as soon as these people are out of office, uh, there should be an attempt to have them prosecuted, which will not get very far, uh, in this country, But frankly, there are a number of treaty signatories in other states that I think are just waiting for the opportunity to commence prosecutions.

01:12:51.000 Well, we look forward to that, or we'll never get our good name back.

01:12:54.000 I think that's what's most important.

01:12:55.000 It's kind of like Germany had the Nuremberg trials, and to some extent, you know, then they could move on.

01:12:59.000 I mean, we are now anathema.

01:13:01.000 We are now seen globally as the Nazis, and unfortunately, rightfully so. 1.00

01:13:05.000 We've killed over a million Iraqis. 0.52

01:13:07.000 And people say, well, not in my name.

01:13:10.000 Well, they did it in our name.

01:13:11.000 And so we've got to do something about this.

01:13:13.000 Your take on that, sir?

01:13:16.000 Yeah, my take on it is exactly that.

01:13:19.000 I lamented that there was never accountability for what happened in Vietnam.

01:13:26.000 You know, I was a journalist over there in 1966, and my observations led ultimately to my being able to convince Martin King uh...

01:13:37.000 to oppose the war which he did in april four sixty seven of course they killed him a year later so that's what i hate about this interview is the time we've got to have you back again because i want all your opinions your take you've seen so much it's amazing and i don't like to talk about yourself but she let's get in the marketing was going to bobby but spend a few minutes first about how instrumental you've been the things you've seen what martin luther king was like behind the scenes what bobby kennedy was like what you know uh...

01:14:03.000 all these other penny you've really just been part of history Well, yeah, there's a sadness there, because the history that I've been a part of has been on the decline in terms of democracy in this republic.

01:14:18.000 Martin was, like many of us, a believer in the system and a believer in the hope of American democracy, and he gradually became alienated and frustrated with it, particularly as it affected uh...

01:14:36.000 the slaughter of the innocence uh...

01:14:38.000 and and as a result of american foreign policy uh...

01:14:42.000 when he saw the photographs that i put in front of him on but i came back from vietnam i i i published nothing and and developed nothing when i was over there i have held it all till i came back and went he read the ramparts piece that came out january sixty seven and i opened the files for me he actually wept uh...

01:15:01.000 the devastation the burning the mutilation Of just scores and scores of children and women in village after village has never been acknowledged, and there's never been accountability.

01:15:20.000 And I felt desperately about that, particularly when the My Lai, which was just one of hundreds of villages, when the My Lai massacre came out.

01:15:29.000 I thought that might trigger some serious prosecutions of the aggressors in this country who had led that kind of devastation, but it didn't.

01:15:47.000 It all passed away.

01:15:51.000 I'm determined to do what I can do anyway to see that this does not happen with respect to what we have done to this ancient civilization in Iraq and that beautiful people.

01:16:02.000 You know, we've just destroyed it and destroyed them, and as you rightly say, killed over a million and displaced another couple of million and just devastated a country and a people.

01:16:16.000 And for what?

01:16:17.000 On the basis of lies?

01:16:20.000 And the hunger and the desire for oil.

01:16:24.000 I mean, that clearly seems like what's been behind it.

01:16:28.000 But Martin was gradually coming in the late 60s to the awareness that he had to confront power with the massive power of people.

01:16:39.000 And that was what got him killed, because this was non-negotiable for him.

01:16:44.000 He was bringing about a half a million people to Washington the spring of 68 to live in Resurrection City and to go visit congresspeople.

01:16:52.000 And the army believed, I think quite rightly, that there was probably going to be a revolution because they weren't going to get put back into the budget, the social programs that had been taken out.

01:17:05.000 Instead, that massive humanity, impoverished humanity, was going to become increasingly angry.

01:17:11.000 And there we would have had probably a revolution in the nation's capital that they didn't have enough troops to put down.

01:17:17.000 Westmoreland wanted 200,000 more.

01:17:20.000 They didn't have those for him.

01:17:21.000 They didn't have the troops to put down. 0.98

01:17:23.000 So the Army knew the only way to stop this from happening was to kill King.

01:17:29.000 Sir, I would tell you today, we have the government documents.

01:17:33.000 I've interviewed the Marine Corps officers.

01:17:35.000 They have been training for decades, a long strategic plan starting back under Reagan, but carried by Clinton and others forward.

01:17:40.000 For martial law, these urban warfare drills they do, Marines running real checkpoints, is to acclimate us.

01:17:46.000 Bush in the John Warren Defense Authorization Act says it's for martial law.

01:17:52.000 And then in his PDD-51, which, as you know, the Homeland Security isn't even allowed to see in Congress, but the cover sheet says he is the government, and they can pass that.

01:18:04.000 I mean, I see them owning both parties, obviously the neocons being a particularly virulent expression of this, but I see the military-industrial complex knowing they're doing things through globalization that are going to hurt Americans, and I see them heading off not just a pass by killing Martin Luther King or Bobby Kennedy peaceful revolution, I see them now in their own revolution against us.

01:18:27.000 Yeah, I think the country is probably closer to to martial law than it has ever been in in my lifetime and they have all of the as you rightly say they have they have all the mechanisms in place and It's only a question of something to that that could trigger it and and there is only one party.

01:18:49.000 That's also Evident you're not going to have any serious.

01:18:52.000 I'm not going to have any serious opposition.

01:18:55.000 So I think I think that's right.

01:18:57.000 We live in very perilous times, and I think as the economy gets worse and worse, and from all the economists whom I speak, there's no question in the minds of many that we're going right back to 1929, 1930.

01:19:12.000 As that happens, there doesn't seem to be a way to reverse this downward plunge, because it permeates every aspect of economic life in this country.

01:19:21.000 Corruption! It's just corporate looting and raiding, and they're all leaving the country.

01:19:29.000 Dr. Pepper is just amazing.

01:19:31.000 Dr. William Pepper.

01:19:32.000 We're going to come back and get into Martin Luther King's murder, and then get into Bobby's murder.

01:19:38.000 So important.

01:19:39.000 Tell everybody you know to tune in right now.

01:19:41.000 His new book is out in paperback, Active State, dealing with the murder of Dr. King.

01:19:46.000 We'll be right back.

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01:24:03.000 Don't want no shackles.

01:24:07.000 Don't want no shackles on me.

01:24:10.000 That's Jimmy Vaughn!

01:24:12.000 Don't want no shackles.

01:24:16.000 Don't want no shackles on me.

01:24:19.000 That's right, my friend.

01:24:20.000 Mr. Pepper, Dr.

01:24:25.000 Pepper, has agreed to stay with us about 15 minutes to the next hour.

01:24:30.000 So we have plenty of time to talk about everything.

01:24:33.000 Well, I mean, I suppose we could summarize Martin King, since his fascination was first in time.

01:24:54.000 It's a long story, as you know.

01:24:57.000 The case has been an involvement of mine for over 30 years.

01:25:03.000 And I met him when I came back from Vietnam.

01:25:07.000 He read a piece I wrote in Ramparts and saw the photographs of burned children and mutilated civilians.

01:25:15.000 And I asked to meet with me, and I did open the files to him.

01:25:20.000 He was very moved and upset and asked me to work with him that last year, and we formed the National Conference for New Politics, which was designed to promote a King Spock third-party ticket in 1968, for the 1968 elections.

01:25:42.000 And top of that, he was planning to bring half a million people to Washington to protest the removal of funds from the social program.

01:25:52.000 So I only knew him and only worked with him that last year.

01:25:57.000 Then they killed him, and I just sort of walked away from politics.

01:26:07.000 Bob Kennedy had a suite in Atlanta the night we buried Martin.

01:26:12.000 He asked me and some others, Spock and Julian Bond, to come up shortly.

01:26:18.000 To talk with him about his presidential campaign, and he'd asked me to work on it.

01:26:24.000 I had been Bob Kennedy's Citizen Chairman in Westchester County as a very young guy in 1964 when he ran for the Senate.

01:26:36.000 I just decided I wasn't going to do that, and after they killed Martin, I just walked away from politics.

01:26:45.000 Nine years later, Abernathy called me and asked me to go to the prison and interrogate James Earl Ray in his presence, and I thought he'd gone around the bend.

01:26:57.000 I never knew anything about the case, whom they had gotten the right guy, and like many Americans, just blithely accepted the government's explanation, as we are raised and trained to do, you know, and so I went up and After about six months, it took me to try to prepare for that, and I read everything I could on the case.

01:27:21.000 Then I spent five hours putting James under enormous stress, and we came away from that five-hour interview convinced—this was in August of 1978—convinced that he was not guilty of the murder.

01:27:35.000 We didn't know what other role he might have played.

01:27:39.000 I began, he raised so many questions that I just began to quietly go into Memphis and live an alternative life off and on in the streets to try to get as much shoe leather information as I could.

01:27:54.000 James agreed to several more...

01:27:58.000 So you did a bunch of detective work for a long time, drifting around?

01:28:02.000 Oh yeah, no, it was really...

01:28:05.000 At one point, I had 22 investigators working for me on very specific pieces of the case.

01:28:12.000 They didn't even know each other or what they were doing as a team, but I plowed a lot of resources.

01:28:21.000 I put about a million dollars of my own money that I earned practicing over 25 years.

01:28:28.000 I guess I put about a million dollars in to try to get Uh, to get to the bottom of it.

01:28:33.000 James kept asking me to represent him and I kept refusing until I said, until I'm sure you had no knowing involvement, I won't do that.

01:28:40.000 I won't, won't represent you.

01:28:42.000 Finally, in, in, uh, 1988, uh, I got, I got to the point that was now over 10 years later, uh, that I became convinced of his total innocence and knowing that he was an unknowing patsy used by the government.

01:28:57.000 So, I agreed to represent him.

01:28:59.000 I took his case up to the Supreme Court where we were denied certiorari.

01:29:05.000 Ben, it just continued.

01:29:06.000 By the way, let's be clear.

01:29:07.000 You didn't just believe, Ray, over decades.

01:29:10.000 You spent over a million dollars researching it to track it all back.

01:29:14.000 Stay there.

01:29:15.000 Dr. William Pepper, amazing individual.

01:29:17.000 He has lived history.

01:29:18.000 He is living it now.

01:29:20.000 We really appreciate him spending time with us today.

01:29:22.000 Long segment, Doctor, when we come back.

01:29:23.000 Plenty of time to break out and tell the story of the murder of Dr.

01:29:28.000 Martin Luther King.

01:29:28.000 And again, folks, love Dr.

01:29:31.000 King, hate him. 0.93

01:29:32.000 The point is, this was a black op. 0.98

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01:30:52.000 There is an ecumenical movement now being planned to join church and state.

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01:33:01.000 The men that killed Martin Luther King, JFK, Bobby...

01:33:09.000 They told the army commandos and the hired hitmen that were doing it, the FBI officers that were carrying it out, the agents, that it was all for the good of the country.

01:33:20.000 But now look what they've done to the country.

01:33:22.000 The very same sons and daughters, the same crew, is anti-free market, anti-liberty.

01:33:32.000 And we're at the crossroads, ladies and gentlemen.

01:33:34.000 We're either going to get out of this tyranny or go deeply into it.

01:33:38.000 We can't stand still.

01:33:39.000 There is no sitting on the sideline.

01:33:42.000 There is no sitting on the bench.

01:33:44.000 InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com are the websites.

01:33:47.000 Remember, we have the InfoWars Money Bomb coming up Saturday.

01:33:50.000 I'll do a special live show, 8 to midnight.

01:33:53.000 Here, we've got some special guests joining us.

01:33:55.000 Dr. William Pepper is our guest.

01:33:57.000 This book came out in the hardback.

01:34:01.000 Now it's out in paperback.

01:34:02.000 And we'll tell you more about that, dealing with the murder of MLK, before he leaves us.

01:34:09.000 Now, but right now we're getting into MLK.

01:34:11.000 Then we'll get into Bobby's murder.

01:34:13.000 And then he's also, by the way, friends with Hugo Chavez, and has a book coming out about his conversations with him, so we'll get his take on who Hugo Chavez really is.

01:34:22.000 There's a lot of questions about that, and we'll get his perspective before he leaves us for a few minutes, then when the book comes out soon, hopefully he'll come back for an hour then.

01:34:30.000 Okay, sir, go ahead and continue with kind of a synopsis of what you cover in ActiveState.

01:34:38.000 Yeah, well, as James' lawyer, we were frustrated in going through the court system, and he seemed blocked.

01:34:50.000 Some media colleagues from England suggested to me that why don't we do a television trial, a mock trial, unscripted, but highly credible.

01:35:04.000 In order to put forward the evidence that we had of James' innocence and also, of course, allowing a prosecutor to convict him.

01:35:13.000 So there was a television trial done in 1993.

01:35:20.000 It was aired, it was produced by Thames Television of England, who eventually put out a business by Thatcher, and HBO in the United States.

01:35:29.000 And it ran in England and in the United States for four hours on the 25th anniversary of Martin's assassination on April 4, 1993.

01:35:43.000 It took the jury seven and a half hours to find James Earl Ray not guilty.

01:35:48.000 It was a jury chosen, not random, but with regular objections from all over the country.

01:35:55.000 The judge was a former federal judge, and the prosecutor was Hickman Ewing, who had been U.S.

01:36:01.000 attorney in Memphis, and who was quick to remind me that he had won 200 straight criminal convictions as we prepared to go to trial.

01:36:10.000 I thought Hickman was going to have a heart attack when the jury came back, and he saw, for the first time on film, he saw the jury verdict of not guilty.

01:36:20.000 That was kept from everyone at the time.

01:36:24.000 So that opened the floodgates.

01:36:28.000 People started coming forward with information.

01:36:38.000 And the picture started to become increasingly clear.

01:36:42.000 There was a Memphis commercial appeal article by a fellow called Steve Tompkins, former naval intelligence officer who had done an investigative piece on the involvement of military intelligence in surveilling Uh, black Americans going back to Martin King's father, mother, and in the early 20th century.

01:37:06.000 And in that long piece, there was a tiny little paragraph which said there was an eight-man sniper unit in Memphis on the day of King's assassination, and it was an Alpha 184 unit.

01:37:19.000 And no one ever explained what they were doing there, because sniper units are not used to suppress riots.

01:37:25.000 Uh, rebellions, they are rather there to kill, that's their function.

01:37:31.000 But there was just that one tiny reference that Steve put in that piece, and so I went to him and badgered him, and he didn't want anything to do with going back and talking to those guys.

01:37:43.000 Two of them had fled the country, they were afraid they were going to be cleaned up, so they went to Mexico.

01:37:48.000 Finally, I convinced him.

01:37:49.000 Remember, we've got an audience who may not know these terms.

01:37:52.000 That means there's a practice to generally kill assassins later, and especially if there's an investigation.

01:37:59.000 Yes, that's right.

01:38:00.000 Two of these guys had fled.

01:38:05.000 For a year and a half, Steve carried messages and questions to them.

01:38:11.000 He went to Mexico, meant that they had trusted him. 0.99

01:38:14.000 They would not meet with me because I was James O'Reilly's lawyer.

01:38:18.000 But they would meet with him and they knew, they agreed to answer the questions.

01:38:22.000 And so slowly they put together a picture of what they knew.

01:38:26.000 They were a backup unit.

01:38:28.000 They didn't know that at the time.

01:38:29.000 They were a backup unit.

01:38:31.000 And they came from Camp Shelby and Mississippi.

01:38:36.000 And what happened was they were briefed at 4.30 in the morning.

01:38:39.000 They were shown two photographs, one of King and one of Young, Andrew Young, and who was the second target.

01:38:45.000 People don't know.

01:38:46.000 In fact, Andy was shocked when I When I revealed that to him.

01:38:50.000 And they then drove into Memphis and they took up their appointed positions.

01:38:54.000 There were two sniper units with two spotters, two snipers prepared, but ordered not to fire until they were given the order.

01:39:02.000 And what they didn't know was that there was a civilian hit operation that had been developed and there was a sniper on the ground in the bushes behind A place called Jim's Grill, which backed onto the Lorraine Motel.

01:39:16.000 And by the way, for those that don't know, studying many other cases, you learn they always have overlapping, not just for redundancy and backup and fail-safe, but also so if there's an investigation, it gets confusing and the average simple mind goes, why would they have a whole bunch of different hit teams?

01:39:33.000 And you're like, JFK, then it turns into, was it Mafia?

01:39:36.000 Was it Pentagon?

01:39:38.000 Was it FBI?

01:39:40.000 Was it Dallas Police?

01:39:41.000 Was it Cuba?

01:39:42.000 Well, that's how intelligence works.

01:39:43.000 They use everybody.

01:39:45.000 Yeah, and so Martin was shot.

01:39:49.000 James was manipulated into, he was profiled and allowed to escape from prison almost a year before the assassination, kept under control, handled by a guy called Raul who gave him money.

01:40:04.000 James wanted desperately to leave North America and get out of the country.

01:40:08.000 And he was approached by this guy at one point in a bar in Montreal and convinced that he would get travel papers, but he had to hang on, do some jobs for this guy.

01:40:20.000 The guy would give him money.

01:40:22.000 A fellow called Raoul would give him money.

01:40:24.000 And so he ran James around the country, kept him under control, kept him in Los Angeles for a long time.

01:40:30.000 Martin was to have been hit in Los Angeles.

01:40:32.000 That was the original plan.

01:40:35.000 They're much more comfortable in some cities than in others because of the degree of intelligence involvement with the local police.

01:40:42.000 And from what I know, New York and L.A., but L.A. really first SWAT teams developed.

01:40:47.000 Daryl Gates has been a CIA police force.

01:40:49.000 Really, I've been told by sources they were the first.

01:40:52.000 Yeah, I think that may be right.

01:40:55.000 They're certainly very well embedded there.

01:40:57.000 But the snipers indicated that at the last minute the place was changed and Memphis was chosen and of course then James was moved into the South, into New Orleans and Birmingham where he was told to buy a gun and then they brought him into Memphis and he was told to rent a room, which he did.

01:41:23.000 And then he was told to get lost because they used the room as a staging ground and James was kept out of it for the duration of the afternoon as they prepared.

01:41:36.000 So anyway, Martin was shot at 6-01 as he stood on the balcony getting ready to go have dinner with a local preacher.

01:41:48.000 And that's a whole other story who that local preacher is, because he's lied over the years about many things.

01:41:53.000 But anyway, they took him down.

01:41:56.000 There were a group of local Black Panther activists who were working with him to develop the march.

01:42:02.000 They were told to get out at about 20 to 6, about 20 minutes before the killing.

01:42:08.000 They were told to remove themselves.

01:42:11.000 They couldn't understand why, because they had been working cooperatively, and they were just told, well, if the LC was going to pay your bill anymore, you have to leave.

01:42:18.000 So they just got discussed.

01:42:20.000 Hey, let's be clear.

01:42:21.000 You're saying that there were operatives inside King's Entourage?

01:42:24.000 Oh, yeah, definitely.

01:42:26.000 Can you spend a little time on that?

01:42:27.000 Well, it was a very interesting situation, because when I interviewed each of the invaders, and the black group, and they had two rooms there.

01:42:37.000 And I interviewed them, of course, many years later.

01:42:40.000 And they said they couldn't understand why they were being told to leave.

01:42:43.000 And when one of them asked the matron of the hotel who came up to tell them to depart, who was it who gave the order to leave?

01:42:51.000 They said, well, it was Reverend Jackson.

01:42:54.000 And I said, Jackson?

01:42:57.000 They had nothing to do with Jesse Jackson.

01:42:58.000 They had been working with Hosea Williamson and others, but not Jackson.

01:43:03.000 They couldn't understand why all of a sudden he had inserted himself into the situation requiring that they leave.

01:43:10.000 Uh, and, uh, he, what Harrington told me is he looked over her shoulder, he saw Jesse down in the, uh, in the parking lot looking at his watch.

01:43:20.000 Uh, and, uh, anyway, they just, they just left.

01:43:24.000 Boy, Jesse Jackson is a real piece of work, isn't he?

01:43:26.000 And then they gave him all the media attention and made him the man and he plays the race politics with him and divides.

01:43:32.000 He is really something else, isn't he?

01:43:34.000 Yeah, he went up.

01:43:35.000 I mean, Ms. King didn't speak to him for about 20 years, I believe.

01:43:39.000 Because he went up and he put blood, Martin's blood, on a shirt that he then was able to use on the Today Show in Chicago the next morning as they spirited him out of there.

01:43:52.000 And, you know, when I confronted Jesse with that, he just didn't remember anything about it.

01:43:58.000 Do you think they told him to do that, or do you think he just thought of that little bit of theater himself?

01:44:04.000 You mean the blood?

01:44:07.000 Yeah. I just don't know.

01:44:10.000 I just don't know which way that fell.

01:44:12.000 But it left very bad feelings with a lot of people that he developed and pushed himself to.

01:44:21.000 That way, but the incident that's much more sinister is the removal of the invaders, because they were a loose cannon type of group.

01:44:31.000 They were unpredictable, and they had to be taken out of there, as did one of the black surveillance detectives who was surveilling King, who was primarily a community relations guy, and they had him in. 0.51

01:44:44.000 had the room they removed him from the fire station uh...

01:44:47.000 where they went where they had the balcony under surveillance and they removed to be only two black firemen from the fire station work were told not to report to work that uh...

01:44:57.000 they set the stage Yeah, that's key evidence.

01:45:03.000 You just mentioned that blacks in the government apparatus, you know, anybody who'd be responding in emergency services, they were removed.

01:45:12.000 That is a key piece of evidence.

01:45:13.000 Please continue.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, they took them all out.

01:45:16.000 They took them all away.

01:45:17.000 They removed the police guard from the hotel and stationed it up at the police station, at the fire station rather.

01:45:28.000 They just had it out of the area.

01:45:30.000 There was always a team of four black detectives who were protecting Martin Cain when he came to Memphis.

01:45:38.000 That team was always in force.

01:45:40.000 They were not called into duty that day.

01:45:45.000 So he was left without those four black detectives as well.

01:45:48.000 So when you have a cumulative amount of these kinds of events, there are no coincidences.

01:45:56.000 This is...

01:45:59.000 So there was a sharpshooter who lay in the bushes, and along the side of him was a fellow called Lloyd Jowers, who was there to take the rifle from him as soon as he fired the shot, which Jowers did.

01:46:13.000 Jowers ran Jim's Grill, which was the place in the bottom floor of the rooming house, but backed onto the bushes.

01:46:22.000 But Jowers took the gun, ran inside, He broke it down in front of a woman who had been his mistress and who had also worked in the grill called Betty Spates.

01:46:34.000 And it took Betty, my goodness, she finally told me the story in December of 1992.

01:46:41.000 She kept it all those years for various reasons, fear possibly, and also because she had been a Jowers lover and didn't want to turn him in.

01:46:54.000 So, she told the story.

01:46:56.000 Others came forward.

01:46:58.000 We really boxed Jowers in with his involvement, and he finally broke.

01:47:03.000 And that's how we began to get the picture of the local operation, which was planned in his grill.

01:47:11.000 And he was given substantial money by a local mob guy called Frank Liberto, who was one of Marcello's guys.

01:47:18.000 Marcello had taken a contract on King's Life.

01:47:23.000 Uh, not knowing about the military backup, but he had taken a contract and he, um, he was, uh, he used his local guys and their connection with the police to, uh, uh, to carry it out.

01:47:35.000 So that was, uh, Martin was, was felled by a single bullet.

01:47:40.000 The guy who shot him went down over the wall, was picked up in a Memphis traffic, uh, police car a block away and taken, uh, taken to safety.

01:47:49.000 And the FBI's role in that case was to, as it is in many of these situations, was to cover up.

01:47:57.000 They weren't involved in the actual organizing of the killing.

01:48:01.000 Their job was to control the investigation, which they did.

01:48:05.000 They controlled the investigation and managed to cover up.

01:48:09.000 That has persisted.

01:48:10.000 I have to say, Alex, it's persisted to this day because the official story is still the one That it gets put forward all the time.

01:48:20.000 There is a museum, a civil rights museum, that has James Earl Ray's throw-down gun, which is never without the murder weapon.

01:48:28.000 It was a throw-down gun with his palm print on it so they could nail him.

01:48:32.000 It has it in a big cabinet, so it's the murder weapon.

01:48:36.000 And that museum is controlled by some of the people who have benefited from King's death.

01:48:45.000 Uh, the official story is still out there.

01:48:48.000 An ongoing...

01:48:50.000 An ongoing...

01:48:53.000 never been reviewed in america and the book before it uh...

01:48:57.000 orders to kill but never reviewed america there was a fringe review of active state with uh...

01:49:02.000 a book of dexter kings in the post but it's never been reviewed and and uh...

01:49:07.000 mainstreamed corporate media whether it's television radio or the print media An ongoing...

01:49:15.000 An The book editor Christopher Lehman Haupt was going to do a review of Orders to Kill in November of 1995, and he told one of the editors of the publisher that he was told to pull the review.

01:49:31.000 First time in 25 years you've been ordered to pull a review.

01:49:34.000 Well, the church committee came out and proved that the CIA is in control of the major publishing industries, or can steer a lot of it.

01:49:46.000 And I've talked to a lot of big authors who've had, you know, New York Times bestsellers who've been told, because their book is anti-establishment, it's not going to be published by a major publisher, and again, people who think this is a supposed free society need to understand, That there's this larger program going on and that these fables, these narratives, these dogmas continue.

01:50:10.000 But the good news is, and I'd like to get your take on this briefly before we go to break, is that regardless of their attempt to cover up, I would say it's failed.

01:50:16.000 I mean, they have major polls where 80 plus percent believe the government killed King, 90 plus percent believe they killed JFK, 90 percent believe they killed Bobby.

01:50:26.000 What's your take on that, Mr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper?

01:50:30.000 I think, yes, I think you're right.

01:50:32.000 I think the people closer to it, and at this point in time, we're all, you know, there is this enormous skepticism that's late in coming, but that is there with respect to people being suspicious.

01:50:46.000 Okay, stay there.

01:50:47.000 Gotta break, gotta break.

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01:54:24.000 It freaked me out when I found out that the military was training to break up our families, take our children, confiscate our firearms.

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01:54:39.000 And I'm going to be covering that coming up in the next hour.

01:54:42.000 Dr. William Pepper is our guest.

01:54:45.000 Active State is his book now out on paperback about the murder of RFK.

01:54:49.000 There's also a companion website.

01:54:53.000 Luther King.

01:54:54.000 Excuse me.

01:54:54.000 We're about to talk about Bobby Kennedy in a minute.

01:54:56.000 Yes, well, the new evidence It brought the King family in full flame into the case and they called for a trial for James and supported that effort.

01:55:26.000 A judge, Joe Brown, a very independent black judge in Memphis, decided that he was going to hear evidence and started moving in the direction and just as he, in my view, was on the verge of giving a new trial for James, Ordering a new trial for James.

01:55:45.000 He was in the shadows.

01:55:47.000 He was taken off the case.

01:55:49.000 The criminal court of appeals removed him from the case and that effectively ended that possibility.

01:55:55.000 James died in 1998 of liver disease.

01:56:01.000 I had arranged a liver transplant facility for him at the University of Pittsburgh Hospital and pleaded for the right Uh, at no cost to the state to take him, uh, there for that transplant and save his life and was denied, uh, by, uh, by the courts in, uh, Tennessee, uh, which was, uh, they were effectively giving him a death sentence at that point in time.

01:56:26.000 And, uh, so he died in 98. In 1999, um, I counseled the King family to bring a lawsuit against, um, Lloyd Jowers for the purpose of bringing out all of the evidence.

01:56:40.000 That we had developed over the previous quarter of a century, just about a quarter of a century.

01:56:46.000 So the family sued Jowers.

01:56:49.000 He had admitted to Dexter King and myself and then to Dexter and Andy, separate interviews, exactly how the killing went down.

01:57:00.000 So we could bring an action against him.

01:57:02.000 We got around the statute of limitations because it was new evidence that was never available before.

01:57:08.000 And we sued him in civil court in Memphis in 1999.

01:57:14.000 I represented the King family against Lloyd Jowers and others, which included government agents, unnamed government agents.

01:57:23.000 Took the jury, the trial went for 30 days, Alex.

01:57:27.000 4,000 pages of transcripts and exhibits.

01:57:33.000 It's an amazing history of the entire We're good to

01:58:05.000 go. Stay there.

01:58:23.000 We're gonna come right back in 70 seconds, Dr. Pepper.

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01:59:58.000 Well, so does he.

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02:00:15.000 It's activestate.org about his newest book, now out in paperback, Active State, The Murder of Martin Luther King.

02:00:23.000 I want to get into Bobby here in a minute, a little bit into Hugo Chavez.

02:00:26.000 We've got this segment and part of the next.

02:00:28.000 We really appreciate Dr. Pepper spending time with us.

02:00:30.000 Okay, William, please continue.

02:00:33.000 All right, but just very quickly, it took the jury in the civil trial 59 minutes to find the That Martin King was killed as a result of a conspiracy involving agents of the government of the United States, state of Tennessee and city of Memphis.

02:00:47.000 70% liability went to those official government agents, and 30% liability went to Lloyd Jarrett.

02:00:54.000 So that effectively brought the King case pretty much full circle in terms of I think so.

02:01:25.000 The involvement of the government.

02:01:26.000 What is it like to have trusted your government before and then to be, not even be an excited participant, but to have to look into it and then find out that this is the case?

02:01:37.000 I mean, how did that change your worldview about how things really work?

02:01:41.000 Well, of course, it made me terribly cynical in terms of electoral politics and of the possibility of changing I'm

02:02:13.000 certainly in the same boat as you.

02:02:16.000 Sometimes I wish things weren't conspiracies or weren't corrupt or weren't bad, and I go investigate, and it's almost always worse than I thought, Doc.

02:02:23.000 I mean, it's insane.

02:02:25.000 Your take on 9-11 and how it's been used to turn us into a furtherance of a police state, 7 trillion looted, 4 trillion missing from the Pentagon, 3 trillion from the war, the pension fund's gone.

02:02:37.000 I mean, they're now openly engaging in corruption that dwarfs anything previous.

02:02:42.000 I wonder what the next wave's gonna look like.

02:02:45.000 Well, I think we're on the road to the end of democracy in this republic, unless there's some drastic changes.

02:02:54.000 And it could be with the economic downfall of this system that the forced reconstruction of the republic will finally come about, because it's going to hit everybody right in their living rooms and their kitchens.

02:03:10.000 And the people at some point will have had too much.

02:03:18.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:03:19.000 I don't think the thugs out there and some of the authoritarians who like all this who are low-level...

02:03:24.000 Do you understand?

02:03:25.000 It's liberty and free market and freedom.

02:03:27.000 Again, we're not perfect, but better than other places that has given us all this.

02:03:31.000 And this tyranny, this corporatocracy or crony capitalism that isn't real capitalism.

02:03:37.000 I mean, it's like a cancer and it's just growing, growing, growing, growing.

02:03:42.000 And either they're going to totally take over or we're going to somehow use their collapse.

02:03:49.000 I mean, I agree with you.

02:03:50.000 I think they're out of...

02:03:51.000 I don't think they're in control, Dr. Pepper.

02:03:54.000 Well, I think we're...

02:03:56.000 No, they're not in control of this now.

02:03:58.000 It's spiraling downward, and it is out of control.

02:04:01.000 There's no question.

02:04:02.000 They're not...

02:04:03.000 They may not...

02:04:04.000 well, will not be able to salvage it, and it's questionable whether the type of reforms that happened during the New Deal era will ever be sufficient again to restore the system.

02:04:18.000 Well, you know, you and I could probably even argue about what form of, you know, system we like as far as largesse and the public treasury.

02:04:26.000 But at the same time, we know that corporate fascism destroys freedom and wealth.

02:04:34.000 And so we're no doubt in agreement against that system.

02:04:37.000 Let's come back briefly, get into Bobby Kennedy and a little bit about Hugo Chavez, who you're personal friends with.

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02:07:52.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

02:07:57.000 You want answers?

02:07:58.000 Well, so does he.

02:08:00.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:08:04.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:09.000 Got Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, coming up the next hour.

02:08:13.000 Got the fellow running the InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com popping in here in about seven minutes, when Dr. Pepper leaves us.

02:08:19.000 And, uh...

02:08:22.000 We'll also take some calls and gauges on with us.

02:08:24.000 I got a bunch of other news we're gonna be covering Doc getting into Bobby.

02:08:32.000 I mean, I know that you mainly focused in on what happened with Martin Luther King, but now looking at the Bobby Kennedy's assassination, we always had the coroner in L.A. saying they shot him from behind and multiple times in the back, back of the head, it wasn't Sir M. We always had witnesses.

02:08:49.000 We always were told all these CIA guys were there.

02:08:51.000 Now they release all this film footage, BBC, of them in the crowd and the witnesses and the guy working at the big spy plane base, you know, who shoots, who reportedly Well, When did you wake up to this?

02:09:10.000 B, why did they want Bobby dead?

02:09:12.000 And then a synopsis of how they did it.

02:09:15.000 Well, I mean, they wanted Bobby dead because he was going to be President of the United States, and he was going to reopen the investigation of his brother's assassination.

02:09:28.000 Bobby was one of the original conspiracy buffs.

02:09:33.000 He believed That his brother was the victim of a conspiracy, and he had never gotten satisfactory answers.

02:09:41.000 And he, at one point, told a major magazine editor who was a friend of his that he needed the White House in order to open this investigation and get to the bottom of it.

02:09:56.000 So that was a part of it, but it went beyond that.

02:09:58.000 He was going to cut the oil depletion allowance, as was his brother.

02:10:02.000 That would take hundreds of millions of dollars over a period of years out of the pockets of the major oil companies.

02:10:10.000 He was going to withdraw the troops from Vietnam and end that war once and for all, which he had become convinced was a mistake.

02:10:22.000 that he was treading on all of the powerful toes.

02:10:25.000 His position was going to the bottom line of the major corporations in America.

02:10:32.000 So he had to be taken out, and I believe he probably knew that.

02:10:40.000 In terms of the details, Tom Noguchi's, the medical examiner's report, as you correctly said, There were four other shots fired at him, three other shots fired at him, four in total, all from the rear and at close range.

02:11:06.000 One went through his shoulder pad, one lodged in the neck, and one went through the chest cavity, in addition to the one that hit him behind the ear.

02:11:17.000 So, there was no question, also in terms of the witnesses, about 19 witnesses all saw Sirhan never get closer than 3 to 5 feet from the front of Bob Kennedy, and his shooting arm was pinned to a steam table after he got off two shots, so he was just firing blindly.

02:11:39.000 So that's, the answer to your first question is, I mean, that's why they killed him, and you're right.

02:11:45.000 Shot from the rear, and you're right, there was a medical report, an autopsy report that indicated that right from the beginning.

02:11:54.000 But you know, Alex, Bob Kennedy's assassination was never properly investigated.

02:11:59.000 There was never a defense put forward for Serhan.

02:12:03.000 His lawyers pled him guilty, and didn't even, in exchange for the plea, get a reduced sentence.

02:12:10.000 It was incredible.

02:12:12.000 They stipulated guilt, and then they argued over what the sentence should be rather than having agreement on that.

02:12:21.000 And Serhan remembers virtually nothing about the critical times related to that assassination.

02:12:28.000 It is all indications that he was under hypnotic suggestion, that he was controlled, and that he was put on cue.

02:12:37.000 To this day, he has never been brought out of that hypnotism.

02:12:43.000 So I think it's pretty clear that the defense just totally didn't do their job early on.

02:12:53.000 Grant Cooper, the lead counsel, was subject to a pending indictment.

02:12:58.000 A federal indictment.

02:12:59.000 They had him.

02:13:01.000 And he was going to do what he was required to do.

02:13:04.000 Have you seen the new BBC?

02:13:06.000 Sorry? Have you seen the new BBC documentary?

02:13:10.000 Yeah, I saw Shane O'Sullivan's work, and I've talked to Shane at length about it.

02:13:15.000 He's not satisfied me with it, and he's not now satisfied himself with respect to two of the CIA people he thought was there, but one he is quite convinced about, and that was this fellow Frank Morales.

02:13:30.000 who has at various times indicated he was in Dallas, and he was also in...

02:13:34.000 Yeah, well, I mean, we now have E. Howard Hunt's Death Peck Infession.

02:13:38.000 By the way, I have video footage.

02:13:39.000 You haven't been seen yet.

02:13:40.000 It's going to be in a film, not just the audio.

02:13:42.000 In fact, I keep forgetting.

02:13:44.000 We've got to get that on YouTube.

02:13:45.000 We've been authorized.

02:13:45.000 It's dangerous to have that.

02:13:47.000 Let's go ahead and get that out now.

02:13:49.000 I don't have the staff.

02:13:50.000 It's so crazy up here.

02:13:51.000 I'm like sitting here on top of a giant stick of dynamite.

02:13:55.000 What do you think about E. Howard Hunt coming out and saying, yeah, I was there, yeah, I ran the operation?

02:14:00.000 Well, I mean, I'm not familiar with all the details of Hunt's statement, but he clearly was a guy very much involved in the mix of all of these things.

02:14:16.000 Well, let me just let the Feds know so they don't have to break in here or anything or do anything.

02:14:20.000 You'll see it.

02:14:21.000 We're so busy, but I'm gonna go ahead and just have it put out.

02:14:22.000 I keep meaning to.

02:14:24.000 He just says the exact same thing he said in the audio tape that's online and that you see in the Rolling Stone magazine, just that, I was a benchwarmer, Kord Meier didn't like Kennedy, and so he...

02:14:37.000 No, I haven't.

02:14:50.000 of it, too, right before his dad died.

02:14:52.000 It's absolutely amazing.

02:14:54.000 And to tell you how busy I am and how crazy all my evidence is, that's like at the bottom of the stack in there.

02:14:59.000 No, haven't.

02:15:06.000 Uh, everybody at Dallas sang, and we have the Dallas Times-Herald, Dallas Morning News taking photos of him as the tramp.

02:15:11.000 We know he ran black-op murders, assassinations, overthrows all over the world. 1.00

02:15:15.000 And so, we always knew it was him doing it, and that came out, and then he just admits it.

02:15:20.000 I mean, it's incredible.

02:15:22.000 But he admits it, his son said, because he's proud of it.

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02:15:27.000 And, you know, he'd joke around the table about, I can't wait till we get that little bastard Bobby, finish the job, get the little one. 0.85

02:15:34.000 And then after he got killed, he was making jokes around the dinner table, but he wasn't part of killing Bobby. 0.94

02:15:39.000 No, it doesn't seem as though it was, but you know, I've just begun on Bobby.

02:15:46.000 I've agreed to represent Sirhan.

02:15:48.000 His lawyer died, whom I knew and consulted with him over the years, and when that happened, and they brought the file to me, And that the new ballistic forensic evidence that Bob Jolling and Phil Von Prague have come out with, that clinched it for me.

02:16:06.000 I don't know how familiar you are with that.

02:16:08.000 Yes, one of them is the head of the Forensic Society.

02:16:10.000 We had them both on.

02:16:12.000 And yeah, no, I mean, clearly two different guns.

02:16:15.000 And when you got 20-something shots, which is more than double what his gun can shoot.

02:16:19.000 Yeah. No, there's no question that from the ballistics, from the forensic side, that Uh, that Sirhan has been cleared of the murder of Bob Kennedy.

02:16:30.000 Problem is, they have five other charges of attempted murder against him, which should never have been allowed.

02:16:35.000 But to be clear, you're now going to represent him and try to get a new trial?

02:16:39.000 Yes, yes.

02:16:40.000 We're going, we're going to be pressing for that.

02:16:42.000 I must say, we're running into obstruction already.

02:16:47.000 It's a mixed blessing when I get involved in a case like this because they then start to batten down the hatches and they make things ever more difficult.

02:16:55.000 Dr. Pepper, we're out of time.

02:16:58.000 We're going to break in about two minutes, and I've already held you over longer than you said, but just come back in a few months when your new book about Chavez is back, please.

02:17:06.000 But in the minutes we've got left, so Hugo Chavez is for real, according to you?

02:17:11.000 There's no question about it.

02:17:13.000 He's a guy who's totally, totally committed to alleviating poverty in his country and dealing with 80% of the people who are impoverished.

02:17:22.000 They've got 20,000 medical clinics in villages that have never before seen a doctor.

02:17:28.000 They're pouring enormous sums of money into social programs.

02:17:32.000 Their education is free from cradle all the way to the grave through graduate school.

02:17:40.000 He's democratizing the country at the grassroots.

02:17:43.000 Each of the local villages have their own councils.

02:17:46.000 They have their own budgets.

02:17:48.000 There's no doubt he's doing what communists have never done.

02:17:50.000 He's a socialist.

02:17:51.000 He's taking a big government land, breaking it up, giving it with the deeds to the people.

02:17:56.000 I mean, I wouldn't even call that socialism.

02:17:58.000 It's not socialism.

02:17:59.000 He's made a mistake with that, I have to say, and I've told him this.

02:18:03.000 What he's doing is not socialism, because the state is not involved in running these operations.

02:18:09.000 It is more aptly called cooperativism, because the dominant entity in the country they are now is a cooperative entity.

02:18:19.000 For example, a sugar factory is run by the workers and the investors and the management.

02:18:24.000 They participate on the board, they run the operation together.

02:18:28.000 The state does not run it.

02:18:30.000 He's, I'm afraid, made a mistake by calling it socialism.

02:18:34.000 When is your book coming out?

02:18:35.000 Well, I mean, we're still finishing up.

02:18:38.000 It'll probably, Alex, it'll probably be about nine months to a year before.

02:18:42.000 We can't wait that long.

02:18:44.000 Can I have you back in the next month, and then we'll have you back when the book comes out, to talk about Hugo Chavez.

02:18:49.000 I know you know him personally.

02:18:50.000 He's attended one of your classes at Oxford, and he's a big fan of you.

02:18:54.000 And so, I mean, you really know him well.

02:18:55.000 Can I have you on so we can really, you know, get William Pepper's take on Hugo Chavez?

02:19:01.000 Yeah, sure.

02:19:03.000 Probably prevented his death on two occasions.

02:19:06.000 I must tell you that.

02:19:07.000 And two assassination attempts by the American...

02:19:09.000 Oh my gosh.

02:19:09.000 Well, how soon?

02:19:10.000 We don't want to wait.

02:19:11.000 They can do it any time.

02:19:12.000 Can I...

02:19:12.000 Can I get my producer to call you back and, like, maybe set you up the next month?

02:19:16.000 Yeah, we could try to set that up, sure.

02:19:18.000 Okay, I'm gonna have, in fact, no time like the present, doctor.

02:19:21.000 We're gonna let you go now.

02:19:22.000 I'm gonna have Trey call you right now.

02:19:24.000 Let's look at your book and get you set up to come on about Hugo Chavez, okay?

02:19:28.000 Okay. Delighted.

02:19:29.000 You bet.

02:19:29.000 The book, ladies and gentlemen, is Active the State, Active State, and ActiveState.org is a website.

02:19:36.000 You can check out and find out more.

02:19:37.000 Thank you, Dr. William Pepper, for coming on with us.

02:19:40.000 Okay. My pleasure, Alan.

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02:23:57.000 Look, William Pepper, I believe, means well.

02:23:59.000 Very intelligent, done incredible research.

02:24:03.000 He is a very interesting person.

02:24:06.000 I have a bad feeling about Hugo Chavez, I'll tell you that.

02:24:10.000 I don't like some of the police state actions he's had in his own country.

02:24:13.000 Quoting the name of the greater good.

02:24:15.000 I don't believe in socialism, but he has done some things that aren't socialism.

02:24:20.000 Because the communists and socialists always end up with a tiny elite owning and running everything.

02:24:23.000 He's actually gone out and taken government land and other stuff and broken it up and given it to people.

02:24:29.000 And he really is helping the commoners and he is taking the oil profits and giving it to the people because it is a resource.

02:24:35.000 I'm not for socialism.

02:24:36.000 I'm for free market.

02:24:37.000 But if you've got something that's the land and the quote state was claiming and owned it, that should be divested and handed to the people.

02:24:44.000 Not like here, where they give you a little bit of government funding and then tell you how to raise your kids, or make you take shots, or do all this.

02:24:49.000 And I'm not for socialized health care, because A, it won't work and you can't pay for it unless you got trillions in oil.

02:24:55.000 B, it gives the government control to carry out their eugenics. 0.64

02:25:00.000 I know, though, Chavez has not been taking IMF World Bank money.

02:25:04.000 He's said, don't take the foreign shots.

02:25:07.000 He's talked about everything we talk about.

02:25:11.000 And he is an enigma, so we're gonna have William Pepper back on, because he's very close to Chavez.

02:25:17.000 So that's the problem with a guy like that.

02:25:18.000 You could talk about 50 subjects with William Pepper.

02:25:21.000 He's really old, very smart, he's been around forever.

02:25:24.000 And so, we try to explore things here.

02:25:29.000 And we're gonna get to the bottom of Hugo Chavez.

02:25:31.000 He's gonna come back on in the next two weeks, and that should be an interesting interview, because he's writing a book, the authorized biography with Chavez.

02:25:38.000 Holy mackerel, that is going to be very interesting to kind of give you a behind-the-scenes nine months to a year before that comes out, because Chavez is rocking the world.

02:25:48.000 Chavez is sending shockwaves across the planet.

02:25:50.000 I think I know what's going on.

02:25:52.000 You know what?

02:25:53.000 I'm going to tell you what I think is going on with Chavez, and I could be wrong.

02:25:56.000 I'm dead on about most things because that's because I've had experience, history, time to analyze and study and go off their own documents.

02:26:05.000 See, things in hindsight are very easy.

02:26:08.000 But, when you're trying to look at their global manipulations and characters and people, it's very hard to do it in the present.

02:26:17.000 In the present, it's very hard.

02:26:19.000 Years from now, we'll know.

02:26:20.000 It's hard now.

02:26:22.000 Okay? Now, with ongoing, like, 30-year projects to bring us into martial law, I can tell you exactly what's going on, exactly what they're doing, because I've had their own documents, their own experiences.

02:26:31.000 I've been to their events.

02:26:32.000 I've analyzed hundreds of news articles, thousands of news articles.

02:26:35.000 I understand their attack profile.

02:26:37.000 So I understand their synthesis of fascism and socialism, and I know what they're pushing.

02:26:42.000 And you know what?

02:26:44.000 Eric Nordstrom is a real trooper.

02:26:45.000 He's been holding for 10 minutes.

02:26:46.000 I apologized to him.

02:26:47.000 He's going to be with me for about an hour on air, taking calls in the four-hour show.

02:26:51.000 We're going to do Sunday night, Saturday night, excuse me, I'll be back Sunday night too, from 8 to midnight.

02:26:58.000 And it won't be on the Genesis Network, won't be on Emesis Network.

02:27:01.000 It will be only on my internet streams at InfoWars.com, but I know tens of thousands will tune in.

02:27:06.000 We have a lot of special guests on that night.

02:27:08.000 It's not just going to be Moneybomb, Moneybomb, Moneybomb, but about a third of the time we'll be talking about the Moneybomb, and we're talking about the Moneybomb right now.

02:27:15.000 We've got about $70,000 that has been pledged.

02:27:18.000 Frankly, we need a lot more than that, folks.

02:27:20.000 If I'm going to get a bigger office instead of the 2,300 square foot we're in, if I'm going to get better cameras, better computers, start a pilot show for Dish Network, that's how big things start.

02:27:31.000 I'll have to pay for that show, folks.

02:27:33.000 That's why we need the support.

02:27:35.000 I guarantee you, if Ron Paul was a good place to give money, and look at the tens of millions we woke up, even if he doesn't become president, we're not going to go away.

02:27:42.000 We're a media institution.

02:27:45.000 So if you believe in what we're doing, you should support us.

02:27:47.000 Eric, how is the build-up towards the money bomb going?

02:27:51.000 I think it's going pretty good.

02:27:52.000 It's trickling in.

02:27:53.000 But, you know, we've got some good support, and the people who have pledged, they'll follow through.

02:27:58.000 And I think we'll wind up getting more money than it's showing, of course.

02:28:01.000 You came up with the original idea and instituted it for the Ron Paul money bombs, but then got picked up by others, like Trevor Lyman.

02:28:12.000 What's your gut on this money bomb right now?

02:28:15.000 Well, of course, I was just one of many who came up with roughly the same idea and put it out, and it was the teamwork that made it good.

02:28:21.000 It wasn't one person, it wasn't one event.

02:28:24.000 Each person that was involved Um, was crucial.

02:28:27.000 Well, this isn't about credit.

02:28:28.000 It is about everybody.

02:28:29.000 I'm just specifically saying who you are in this.

02:28:31.000 You're the first guy to put a website up.

02:28:33.000 You're the first guy to actually take the first step.

02:28:36.000 Well, that's exactly what I mean is, you know, if you look at it this way, it takes a lot of people to get this thing happening.

02:28:42.000 And it's not just the fever, or it's not just the, uh, the like, you know, who people like, who people prefer that makes it happen.

02:28:49.000 If you, if you look at this money bomb, and if you look at your organization there, and you look at it as a house, And you've got other organizations out there also trying to put out the freedom movement information, you know, constitutional information.

02:29:00.000 And if you represent these different organizations as different houses in a neighborhood, well, if you've got one house that's looking a little bit trashy, and you've got one house that's medium, and you've got one house that looks really nice, you know, everybody wants their house to equity to go up.

02:29:14.000 What you want to do is you want to get everybody in the neighborhood to help each other make their landscaping look nice, help the neighbors out.

02:29:20.000 That way, Your entire equity goes up for your house.

02:29:23.000 Stay there.

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02:33:01.000 But the shack outside the game is...

02:33:07.000 It's really exciting, folks.

02:33:12.000 The idea of us giving.

02:33:14.000 The idea of the Liberty Movement, the Freedom Movement, supporting the different tip of the spears that are out there.

02:33:21.000 And we're not the only spear, but we're the biggest spear.

02:33:23.000 We're the most effective spear.

02:33:25.000 Next to Ron Paul.

02:33:29.000 And it is literally treasure for our war chest.

02:33:34.000 What is a war chest?

02:33:36.000 It's what funds the Army.

02:33:39.000 And, uh, I have never really asked for donations, but when Eric Nordstrom did this, it comes at a time when I was really trying to decide what I wanted to try to do.

02:33:48.000 This is, uh, even if $100,000 comes in, that'll be substantive.

02:33:52.000 That'll help us.

02:33:52.000 That'll help us get a lot done.

02:33:54.000 But for the cost of the type of things we're doing, it's really not even that much.

02:33:59.000 And I assure you, I'll give you my word, 100% of the donations that come in Saturday will go to the building cost, which we cram every square foot full of people taking action.

02:34:09.000 We'll go to the electricity bill.

02:34:11.000 We'll go to better cameras.

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02:34:14.000 We'll go directly to fighting the New World Order. 0.90

02:34:17.000 You see, we can't be demoralized.

02:34:19.000 We can't have the attitude that we can't win.

02:34:22.000 People are waking up.

02:34:23.000 The global system is collapsing.

02:34:25.000 They're trying to bring in their new world order through the controlled collapse.

02:34:29.000 We have to use that against them like judo and use their attack against them. 1.00

02:34:34.000 And now is the time.

02:34:37.000 And I can think of no better place, frankly, to donate to.

02:34:41.000 So if you donate to the InfoWorks Money Bomb, you'll be part of that excitement, part of that day, part of that history, and it will go on if it's successful, and that way the Money Bomb idea won't be extincted.

02:34:53.000 We're also trying to not extinct the idea of the money bomb.

02:34:57.000 Because if Ron Paul has a 6.7 million dollar day, and some 4 million dollar day, and a million dollar day, and then a 800,000 dollar day, and then a 50,000 dollar day, and then it's coming, oh, the Ron Paul thing's over.

02:35:07.000 No, it's not the idea.

02:35:09.000 People are like, well, what did I get my money for?

02:35:12.000 I heard ads all over the country.

02:35:14.000 TV, radio, people woke up, they found out about Ron Paul, they found out about the Federal Reserve, the war being a fraud.

02:35:19.000 That Bush isn't a real conservative?

02:35:21.000 That the Democrats are controlled?

02:35:22.000 There's no de...

02:35:23.000 I mean, think!

02:35:23.000 Tens of millions!

02:35:25.000 They estimate there's like 25 million Ron Paul supporters now in the U.S. alone.

02:35:28.000 Tens of millions globally.

02:35:30.000 They're now, from inside Trilateral Commission, confirmed...

02:35:33.000 This is Jim Tucker.

02:35:34.000 He doesn't make stuff up.

02:35:36.000 They... Number one issue was the Liberty Movement, Ron Paul.

02:35:39.000 Not that he was going to be president, but that...

02:35:41.000 Now, young people don't want to be communist.

02:35:43.000 They don't want to be socialist.

02:35:44.000 They don't want to be neocons.

02:35:46.000 They don't want to be fascist.

02:35:47.000 They want to be Liberty people.

02:35:49.000 And so, we go on.

02:35:51.000 We don't go away.

02:35:52.000 We've been here 13 years.

02:35:53.000 God willing, we'll be here in 10 years.

02:35:55.000 I'd love to beat the New World Order and literally go do something else.

02:35:59.000 I got all kinds of films I want to make.

02:36:01.000 Imagine if I'm full-time made films instead of making two or three films a year on top of everything else I do.

02:36:06.000 I mean, frankly, I want to make...

02:36:08.000 I'm not going to tell you what I want to make films about that are non-fiction.

02:36:11.000 I don't have time.

02:36:11.000 It doesn't matter.

02:36:12.000 I mean, that are fiction or documentary style.

02:36:15.000 I think of fiction I mean, I don't get sick of it.

02:36:31.000 In fact, I'm overdriven, burning with desire to warn you about all the stuff I've got in front of me.

02:36:37.000 I'm just babbling here.

02:36:38.000 I mean, bottom line, we need your support.

02:36:40.000 InfoWars.com.

02:36:42.000 A lot of mails coming in, a lot of donations are coming in.

02:36:45.000 We're going to tabulate that, add that.

02:36:46.000 We need to do some planning with you, Eric.

02:36:49.000 I know you're being set up for the show Saturday, the special four-hour show we're going to do.

02:36:53.000 We need to be calling you every hour or two.

02:36:55.000 You're going to have a graph on your website or my IT guy maybe is going to build a graph and we'll be able to enter the numbers into that and show people like that, you know, to see as the money goes up at least every hour or so.

02:37:07.000 They're going to have a 1-800 line and call in here with credit card donations.

02:37:11.000 We're going to have a credit card link, a PayPal link.

02:37:13.000 The PayPal link's already up.

02:37:14.000 I think already like $2,000 is coming outside the money bomb.

02:37:18.000 So that's pretty encouraging.

02:37:20.000 Go ahead and make your points.

02:37:21.000 Well, just a success for one is a success for all.

02:37:26.000 You know, we've got to be thinking of ourselves as the Freedom Movement as one team.

02:37:29.000 If we start thinking as each separate tip of the spear, as you put it, as a separate team, And we're all rooting for our own special football team.

02:37:37.000 Well, somebody's going to lose.

02:37:39.000 And that's the old divide-and-conquer mentality that they want us to fold up into.

02:37:43.000 So we've got to think of ourselves as a conglomerate push.

02:37:47.000 That we're all doing the same thing.

02:37:49.000 We're all singing from the same sheet of music.

02:37:51.000 And if one person can get up to the top, well, it makes a road for everybody else to follow.

02:37:58.000 It's just like lightning.

02:37:59.000 Lightning is going to take the path of least resistance.

02:38:01.000 And always after lightning comes the thunder.

02:38:04.000 And the thunder is all the people waking up.

02:38:07.000 So I highly recommend jumping on this thing because you want to invest in things that have the greatest chance for success.

02:38:15.000 You throw money away, some other thing that doesn't have a great chance of succeeding, well, that's fine if you feel strongly about it.

02:38:22.000 That's a good way of putting it.

02:38:23.000 I mean, I'm not saying, I mean, in an Army you're all on the same team.

02:38:26.000 It's just that you've individually got spears.

02:38:28.000 Exactly. And so what I'm saying is we're on the very tip of the spear.

02:38:32.000 And so I always say support everybody, support other networks, support other people.

02:38:36.000 I've always tried to be inclusive.

02:38:38.000 Others aren't.

02:38:39.000 But with the idea of liberty, that is what matters, the idea of moving forward.

02:38:44.000 And you're right.

02:38:45.000 We need to make this money bomb a success so other people's money bombs can be a success.

02:38:50.000 I think we're a good pony to bet on.

02:39:16.000 I put out a press release to the Ron Paul campaign 2008, and what it was was a request by me for them to purchase a 30 second commercial on the Alex Jones show, a 30 second commercial, and pay you 1 million dollars for it.

02:39:32.000 Which is a ridiculous price for 1 million dollars for a 30 second commercial, but the ideology behind it is they can't donate to your money bomb per se.

02:39:40.000 But if they can spend a million dollars and buy 30 seconds worth of advertising, that gives a million dollars towards something that should and needs to succeed.

02:39:48.000 Well, that's a good idea, but the enemies would have a heyday with that.

02:39:51.000 I didn't know about that idea.

02:39:52.000 Well, I bet they think I'm behind that.

02:39:54.000 Well, no, the idea behind it, though, is it's not just 30 seconds.

02:39:57.000 If they give a million dollars to something that is good, that will definitely have an impact.

02:40:01.000 It's not 30 seconds they're purchasing.

02:40:03.000 It's 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, commercial for constitutional liberty.

02:40:09.000 Conservative viewpoints and perspectives, not just the Alex Jones viewpoints, but I'm sure you're going to have other guests on.

02:40:15.000 And the other thing to think about is, you know, I can't believe the levity, I can't think of the word, the people you have on your show, they're not just Joe Schmoes.

02:40:24.000 These people were in the thick of government.

02:40:26.000 They were in the thick of things going on.

02:40:28.000 They're the movers and the shakers of yesteryear and today. 1.00

02:40:32.000 You know, these people don't necessarily come on The smaller radio stations, or the smaller television channels, or they're not invited because their perspectives aren't wanted.

02:40:42.000 Who else has Willie Nelson talking about 9-1-1?

02:40:46.000 You have everybody under the sun on, and it's such an educational value, your show, whether you believe everything that's going on.

02:40:55.000 it at least flips some switches and it makes you think, wow, maybe that could be.

02:40:59.000 Well, we're able to get Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and all these other people on, mainly because, again, we spend the money to have a full-time producer and another part-time producer.

02:41:08.000 Also, I've been around for 13 years, so a lot of bigwigs have gotten to know who I am.

02:41:14.000 It's kind of an exponential thing.

02:41:16.000 Again, when you've got something that's having breakthroughs, that's what people need to back.

02:41:20.000 And, again, ladies and gentlemen, my passion...

02:41:24.000 I mean, I know people hear me on their local radio stations at 10 o'clock at night, 3 p.m., you know, 3 a.m., 4 a.m.

02:41:30.000 People know I work hard.

02:41:32.000 I'm dedicated.

02:41:33.000 And this is the place where 100 percent, I don't know where else you can find that too, where 100 percent of what you donate here will go directly into the fight.

02:41:43.000 That is what this is all about.

02:41:46.000 Infowarsmoneybomb.com.

02:41:47.000 When has my producer set you up for the four-hour marathon we're doing Saturday night?

02:41:53.000 I don't know.

02:41:54.000 I got the time written down.

02:41:55.000 I think it was 7 p.m. my time.

02:41:56.000 Or I'm sorry.

02:41:57.000 I think it was like 5 a.m. my time.

02:42:00.000 So I'll be getting some sleep early to wake up.

02:42:02.000 But I'm good for it.

02:42:03.000 Okay. Well, I think we got our times off.

02:42:04.000 I'm going to be live from 8 p.m. to midnight central.

02:42:08.000 Well, we'll figure it out after.

02:42:10.000 Yeah. No biggie.

02:42:11.000 I'll be there.

02:42:12.000 Okay. Fantastic.

02:42:13.000 And we're going to have some other folks popping in for that show that will just be on the internet streams at InfoWars.com.

02:42:18.000 Those specific streams.

02:42:20.000 Eric Nordstrom, InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com.

02:42:23.000 I really appreciate you coming up with this idea.

02:42:25.000 When did you come up with this idea?

02:42:27.000 I guess it was a couple weeks ago and basically another viewpoint of it is it's a battering ram trying to break open the gates of the media so that we can change the face of media.

02:42:38.000 Well, I've always told people go out and support Uh, alternative media.

02:42:44.000 Go out and, I mean, if you believe in something, spend money on it.

02:42:47.000 Not just me.

02:42:47.000 I mean, that's how we're gonna change this, is voting with our dollars.

02:42:50.000 They've taken most of our voting machines away.

02:42:52.000 I mean, we know we're going into tyranny.

02:42:54.000 We better financially support the people that are putting it all on the line.

02:42:57.000 Go ahead.

02:42:58.000 Well, this battering ram needs to go through the doors.

02:43:00.000 And if you've got, uh, a hundred people sitting on the sidelines not helping to push that battering ram, that's not good.

02:43:05.000 So, I really hope and pray that the, uh, people that are standing, standing by watching the battering ram, uh, start to push.

02:43:13.000 Absolutely, folks, and you can pledge at InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com, or if you don't want to, just go to InfoWars.com and the big link on the main page to donate by PayPal, credit card, or by calling us.

02:43:23.000 We're starting Friday at midnight when we go into Saturday morning.

02:43:26.000 I'm going to have one or two people here overnight.

02:43:28.000 Who knows how many calls we'll get.

02:43:30.000 And then we're going to have a couple people here during the day.

02:43:31.000 And I'm going to be here during the day as well, trying to answer the phones.

02:43:34.000 Then I'll be here live for four hours at night.

02:43:36.000 Eric Nordstrom will be on with this as well.

02:43:38.000 Eric, thank you because, hey, regardless of what happens with this, and I think it's going to be a big success, and that's up to you, the listeners, to spread the word right now in these final few days.

02:43:46.000 This is key.

02:43:47.000 We've got articles that Kurt Nimmo is going to write today, Paul Watson tomorrow, Steve Watson Saturday.

02:43:52.000 They're each doing a story.

02:43:57.000 It doesn't matter if you write something online.

02:44:08.000 It doesn't matter if you send money.

02:44:10.000 It doesn't matter if you donate a piece of burnt toast.

02:44:12.000 Do something.

02:44:13.000 Thank you sir.

02:44:19.000 Most of them won't hear about it.

02:44:21.000 They'll come check out InfoWars.com.

02:44:24.000 I mean, go to a blurb about some news story we've got, some information we've put out, and then have a link to it, you know, to our sub-page about the money bombs.

02:44:31.000 They can go there and find out more.

02:44:33.000 I mean, whatever it takes to get people to spark their interest, it is the act of defiance, the act of resistance from which all of this flows.

02:44:45.000 So many people never believed that we could expose the globalists for 9-11.

02:44:48.000 Or that we could expose the WMDs being a lie.

02:44:51.000 Or that we could expose the fact that the CIA was putting out fake Al-Qaeda videos.

02:44:56.000 Or that we could...

02:44:56.000 But now it's all coming out!

02:44:59.000 Well, I'd study history.

02:45:01.000 And I'd also experience things in my own personal life.

02:45:04.000 And I know that if you don't think you can do something, you can be assured it's not going to happen.

02:45:08.000 But, nine times out of ten, if you believe in something and you take action, and it's somewhat attainable, you can get it done.

02:45:15.000 And, uh, they've got us hoaxed, buffaloed, you know, into not resisting.

02:45:22.000 I looked up the term buffaloed, um, and that goes back to how buffalo would just stand there and let you shoot them, basically.

02:45:29.000 You know, deer in the headlights is kind of what buffaloed is.

02:45:32.000 You know, conned, manipulated, stampeded, murdered.

02:45:35.000 Uh, stop being buffaloed.

02:45:36.000 I mean, stop deciding you're going to give up.

02:45:38.000 Stop deciding you can't affect change.

02:45:40.000 Stop deciding.

02:45:41.000 I mean, I was kind of buffaloed into never asking for money, or never really trying to raise capital.

02:45:45.000 I mean, I used to sit there with advertisers coming in every day.

02:45:49.000 This is three, four years ago, wanting to advertise.

02:45:52.000 And I would just say, no, I don't want to fill my show up with any advertising.

02:45:57.000 I'll just sell my videos, and I'll have two employees, and I'll just do everything myself, and I'll edit everything myself.

02:46:03.000 And then I said, wait a minute, if I hire more people, then we can have better customer service.

02:46:08.000 That was the main reason I started hiring more people.

02:46:10.000 We didn't have the staff to even properly ship them out.

02:46:13.000 And then I said, well, if I go ahead and just...

02:46:17.000 And I learned, man, I can hire more people, and then that ends up bringing in more money, and then I can hire more people, and then I can continue to expand my operations and fight the new world order more effectively.

02:46:28.000 And some other things happened, too.

02:46:30.000 I mean, a lot of what happened on this show is...

02:46:34.000 I've always been a really nice person, also aggressive at the same time, but a nice guy until you mess with me.

02:46:40.000 I remember one time, like eight years ago, I got a sponsor and a talk show called me and said, I'm sponsoring something like that too.

02:46:45.000 You shouldn't do that.

02:46:47.000 And I said, oh, okay.

02:46:48.000 I won't take a sponsor. 0.99

02:46:50.000 I mean, what kind of schmuck am I? 0.91

02:46:53.000 But see, to me it was, well, I'll just sell these videos and have enough to live on and then we'll just be a small operation. 0.98

02:46:59.000 And I realized other people aren't stepping up to the plate.

02:47:01.000 I better do it.

02:47:03.000 And then I got like four or five sponsors about two years ago and people got mad about it.

02:47:07.000 And I said, hey, I'm supposed to live, too.

02:47:08.000 How about I get a whole bunch of sponsors?

02:47:10.000 How about I really try to hire more people and do more and get better websites and upgrade and have a better PrisonPlanet.tv?

02:47:18.000 I mean, that's what this is all about, is effectively waking people up.

02:47:21.000 And if we're the best there is, if we're the best hope we've got, that is myself, this radio show, my crew, and you, the listeners, who are symbiotically integrated together in the fight against the New World Order, if we're the best there is, we better...

02:47:32.000 I mean, I realize, I mean, you think I want to take on trying to start a TV show and then a TV network?

02:47:37.000 You think I want it?

02:47:38.000 Because I don't take something on unless I'm gonna do it.

02:47:40.000 You think I want to take on a money bomb and have to have people here answering the phone and fiddling with it and people attack me over it?

02:47:46.000 At first I was like, oh no, and I heard about it.

02:47:48.000 You know, I'm not gonna ask for money.

02:47:50.000 I'll just beg for it on air, you know.

02:47:52.000 I see the attacks that are coming.

02:47:53.000 But so what?

02:47:54.000 You just got to step up to the plate because it's morally right to ask for money to fuel something that's morally correct and doing the right thing.

02:48:01.000 And I know I'm gonna spend the money on the right thing.

02:48:04.000 See, I'm not obsessed with money like other people.

02:48:06.000 I'll go just buy those hidden cameras.

02:48:08.000 Just buy a laptop.

02:48:09.000 Just buy it.

02:48:10.000 I don't even care if I burn through the capital I've got because if it's for the weapon, if it's for the info war, it's what I exist for.

02:48:18.000 It's what I'm for.

02:48:19.000 It's what I'm about.

02:48:21.000 I mean, in business, I'm sure you've all experienced this.

02:48:23.000 Somebody owes you money.

02:48:24.000 Most people try to not pay you.

02:48:26.000 Well, we just pay people because we're not obsessed with it.

02:48:29.000 We don't try to hold on to something.

02:48:33.000 I guess they say those that are willing to lay down their life gain their life, and those that try to keep their life lose their life.

02:48:38.000 It's the attitude of being a wimp brings the wolves. 0.98

02:48:42.000 If you're some cowardly sheep, a nation of cowardly sheep that rationalize and make excuses about everything, tyranny is going to come down on you. 0.98

02:48:51.000 But if you are a nation of people that are strong-willed and have strong backbones and are aggressive and aren't easy targets, you're not going to live in tyranny. 0.89

02:48:58.000 And then you're going to have milk and honey because you're going to have free individuals out living their own lives, going their own direction.

02:49:03.000 You're going to have free will and free choice, and that is an explosive dynamo, which is just amazing.

02:49:09.000 Our countries had limited freedom, but the best there's been in history, and we had half the world's wealth, 4% of the population.

02:49:15.000 4% of the population, half the wealth or more.

02:49:19.000 Now we're losing all that wealth. 0.99

02:49:21.000 We've gone in 50 years from being the greatest, most wealthy country in the world, for the last hundred, to being the most indebted, most bankrupt, dumbest, stupidest, most unhealthy, most know-it-all, most arrogant. 0.99

02:49:35.000 I want that back. 0.98

02:49:36.000 I want our liberty and freedom back.

02:49:37.000 I want my progeny, my great-great-grandchildren, who I love as much as my children.

02:49:41.000 I know they're going to exist.

02:49:43.000 I have to have that vision and see through it as a male, as a leader, as a trailblazer.

02:49:48.000 I have to put myself fully against the enemy. 0.99

02:49:51.000 Doesn't mean I'm perfect, doesn't mean I drop the ball, doesn't mean I make mistakes, doesn't mean I'm not arrogant and a dumb bastard sometimes. 0.99

02:49:57.000 But at the end of the day, I'm for real. 0.99

02:50:00.000 And at the end of the day, I got a mission.

02:50:02.000 And at the end of the day, my word is my word.

02:50:05.000 At the end of the day, I'm the real McCoy, ladies and gentlemen.

02:50:08.000 And I know you're the real McCoy, so stop whining about whether this guy's a good leader or that guy's a good leader.

02:50:13.000 You know you're a leader, so start leading today.

02:50:16.000 And I want a commitment from you.

02:50:18.000 You don't have to give us money.

02:50:20.000 You don't have to go give at InfoWars this Saturday.

02:50:24.000 In fact, don't.

02:50:25.000 But you start a newsletter next week.

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02:50:29.000 You call into a talk radio show today.

02:50:31.000 You start some reaching out.

02:50:33.000 You go tell your neighbors about the new world order tonight.

02:50:36.000 Don't wait.

02:50:37.000 You'll wait and your life will run by.

02:50:39.000 All I want from you is that you take action.

02:50:41.000 All I want from you is that you go up and tell a cop not to be a police state minion.

02:50:46.000 Educate them.

02:50:47.000 Interface. It is a big idea.

02:50:51.000 A new world order.

02:50:53.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

02:50:57.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

02:51:00.000 Both their objective being world domination.

02:51:03.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

02:51:06.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.93

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02:51:30.000 They're not after money.

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02:54:00.000 You know what's admitted?

02:54:03.000 The Intel Center came out yesterday and said, yeah, there's a new Al-Qaeda video out.

02:54:08.000 It's fake!

02:54:10.000 Trying to make themselves look like they're credible, when they've been caught laying down the same video layer with their icon onto the Al-Qaeda icon.

02:54:18.000 Red-handed! Red-handed!

02:54:22.000 Red-handed!

02:54:24.000 Red-handed!

02:54:27.000 Red-handed, red-handed.

02:54:33.000 But that's what they know how to feed us.

02:54:35.000 There is some kooky-looking nut, I saw like a month ago on local Denver news, going, I will soon release proof of the aliens landing.

02:54:45.000 We need to prepare Denver for them to land.

02:54:48.000 I mean, I'm not saying there aren't aliens in space, but the point is, is that I don't cover that because I can't prove it.

02:54:54.000 This guy, what he's, it's going to be some computer-generated hoax, or some government deal, because you got the Pope saying they're real and worship them, basically.

02:55:01.000 You've got all these governments coming out and saying it's real.

02:55:06.000 I mean, I'm seeing a lot, you got all these government aircraft flying around Dallas, outside Dallas, freaking everybody out.

02:55:11.000 And then now, National Fox News, tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, on the word of this guy, they're giving him all this attention.

02:55:19.000 They're going to show us aliens.

02:55:22.000 I remember some kook in Texas, in Austin, who I knew, who got up on his high-rise apartment, he later admitted it to me, was dropping pennies off and videotaping them falling past and saying it was flying saucers.

02:55:37.000 But again, this is the American people.

02:55:40.000 They think Al-Qaeda is Shiite Iranians.

02:55:43.000 Meanwhile, our criminal government runs Al-Qaeda, attacking the Iranians and admitting it, while saying they're Al-Qaeda.

02:55:49.000 So, I mean, why not tell them it's space aliens?

02:55:51.000 I mean, I ought to get like a plush doll of a alien gray and have it dance around on strings and say, look, proof!

02:55:58.000 In fact, let's go to the store and buy one.

02:56:01.000 We could film it in five minutes and get major news.

02:56:03.000 Fox News would ask you if the plush doll was real.

02:56:06.000 We just got to have the strings the same color as the blue screen.

02:56:10.000 Okay, I'm just gonna have Richard Gage on for 30 minutes, I think, because I got all this news and I want to cover it all, and I told Eddie to set up Richard Gage.

02:56:32.000 And I like Richard, but I've got to somehow cover all this news, but it gets exhausting actually covering it all and trying to cover every facet.

02:56:39.000 What I'm going to do is for five minutes, I'm going to cover some top stories, and we'll get back in about a minute.

02:56:43.000 And then we're going to hear Richard Gage on, and we'll just enjoy a nice discussion with him about what's developed with architects and engineers at 9-11 Truth, not even the science, now they blew it up, we all know that.

02:56:54.000 But the congressional hearing showing his organization and saying they're going to blow everything up with Al-Qaeda and we've got to restrict free speech of the evil Richard Gage, things like that.

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