Alex Jones Show - 20080627_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 They can read along.

00:00:01.000 I wanna...

00:00:04.000 Jordan, we're going to be back on the main radio show in about three minutes, but I didn't want to waste any of the time that we have with you.

00:00:11.000 So we're on air right now on the web.

00:00:13.000 I want to walk through for people, because I know you've been immersed in this so long it becomes old hat, but I want to look, going back briefly, at the roots of all of this, and then what's at the top of the pyramid.

00:00:23.000 Has it been one congruent group?

00:00:26.000 How many thousands of years has it been congruent?

00:00:29.000 Because this is a world that's awakening.

00:00:32.000 Yeah, it's just such a convoluted subject when you want to talk about who's actually in charge.

00:00:34.000 you were or others were, are just now beginning to wake up to this.

00:00:38.000 So I want to cover as many points as we can.

00:00:41.000 Then we can point folks at jordanmaxwell.com to find out more, okay?

00:00:44.000 Yes.

00:00:45.000 Does that sound good to you?

00:00:47.000 Yeah, it's such a convoluted subject when you want to talk about who's actually in charge.

00:00:54.000 I would say that Europe, as I said, for 2,300 years has been at the bottom of all politics And, of course, Europe has been the home of the Roman Empire.

00:01:10.000 And, of course, the Vatican dominates Europe today.

00:01:13.000 As a matter of fact, we are used to, in this country, hearing about royalty and the princes and Prince Charles and Prince Andrew and the Queen Mum.

00:01:27.000 But all of that royalty, the entire concept of royalty of Europe, is based on God's, on something called the divine right of kings.

00:01:38.000 And that's all certified by Rome.

00:01:40.000 That's exactly right.

00:01:42.000 That's who tells you what God said.

00:01:44.000 And God said that you are a prince.

00:01:47.000 Therefore you go to the Vatican, kneel before the holiness, His Holiness the Pope, And he crowned you, or knights you, into an order of knighthood.

00:01:57.000 It doesn't matter from what country you come, it doesn't matter.

00:02:01.000 Rome rules Europe, period. 0.97

00:02:03.000 Okay, okay, well let's, I want to give people just a basic overview who don't understand of why these secret societies are important, where it's going, who they are, and then currently today, top of the pyramid, you're saying I think that Europe is at the top of the pyramid, and Europe is the problem with America today.

00:02:21.000 European secret societies are... And at the top of that pyramid, you really think it's the Roman Catholic Church?

00:02:28.000 I think so.

00:02:28.000 Okay.

00:02:29.000 That's my view.

00:02:30.000 Okay, very interesting.

00:02:31.000 And do you think they're at war with the Western elites in any way?

00:02:34.000 Because we always... Exactly, because the Knights Templars were their enemy at one of their... Okay, let's explain that.

00:02:40.000 Let's explain that.

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00:03:04.000 Well, I'm going to try to keep Jordan five minutes to the next hour, but then we have State Rep Charles Key exposing Oklahoma City as an inside job bombing, and then they've passed resolution to fight the New World Order at the state level to basically pull out of the union.

00:03:19.000 And the new order continues to expand.

00:03:21.000 That is coming up in about an hour.

00:03:24.000 Man, time has really flown by with Jordan Maxwell.

00:03:30.000 Jordan again is a permanent researcher into the core documents of the elite and what makes them tick.

00:03:35.000 Jordan, give us a tour of the basic history of where all this really starts as best you can tell.

00:03:43.000 Have they been passing on knowledge?

00:03:45.000 Do they Claim they have the secrets of the pyramids in Atlantis and all this, or is that a fable?

00:03:53.000 How much power do they really have?

00:03:56.000 You talk about how their main goal, and now they admit this, is to create two species of humanoid, dumb us down, exterminate most of us.

00:04:05.000 I'm just throwing out the basics here, because broad strokes here in the time we have, and For the behind-the-scenes viewers of PrisonPlanet.tv, I want to continue that discussion afterwards.

00:04:15.000 After you finish that with, you believe the Roman Catholic Church is at the very top.

00:04:19.000 I didn't mean the Roman Catholic adherence to the people, but that system dominating Europe and that it's at war With the Knights Templars who went to Germany, who went from there into Scotland and then into the United States.

00:04:35.000 Are those two, the Anglo-American establishment, really waging war with Europe?

00:04:40.000 Or why on the surface does it look like they're all working together?

00:04:44.000 Or is that what the New World Order is?

00:04:46.000 Was the Knights Templars claiming they were going to build a new order, but now it's really just a new order that's run by the Vatican?

00:04:54.000 Again, this is where all the evidence points.

00:04:56.000 That's why we're here discussing it.

00:04:59.000 It doesn't matter if it's TBN with all their weird statues, or Protestants, Catholics, it's all run by the New World Order. 0.94

00:05:05.000 But Jordan was saying there could be some splits there.

00:05:07.000 So I want to walk through that with his expertise.

00:05:09.000 But Jordan, that's a long-winded question there.

00:05:12.000 Try to tackle that, you know, scanning the pyramid.

00:05:15.000 I mean, let's say you had ten minutes to talk to the world about the structure of it, who they are, why it's important to know.

00:05:22.000 Tell us.

00:05:23.000 Well, I think that it's all one ball of wax.

00:05:27.000 It's all one operation that goes back thousands of years into the ancient past, a religio-political establishment on the earth.

00:05:38.000 In the ancient prehistoric world, The kings were always not only head of government and law, but they also represented the connection between mankind, their followers, and God.

00:05:52.000 So consequently, they held absolute sovereign power.

00:05:58.000 And I have always understood that kingships and princes is nothing more than the crypts and the bloods.

00:06:05.000 People who have taken for themselves Uh, the idea that they are royalty.

00:06:13.000 You've got to be out of your mind.

00:06:16.000 Not to question who said that you are royal. 0.93

00:06:20.000 I mean, in America, nobody likes to be around somebody who is pompous and arrogant and better than anybody else.

00:06:28.000 Nobody likes to be around those people because everybody realizes those people live in a dream world who treat you and mistreat you and look down on you and snob you.

00:06:40.000 People know that that's just a fake and that they're no better than anybody else.

00:06:47.000 So we naturally feel that about people who are snobs.

00:06:51.000 However, if it's the Holy Father or the Queen Mum, now that's different.

00:06:56.000 We will get on our knees and shake and slobber on ourselves because we will be able to see the Holy Father, or we will be able to see Queen Mum or Prince Charles.

00:07:08.000 We'll struggle and pay whatever we have to to get in line to see Prince Charles drive by when in point of fact the British royalty Vatican royalty, royalty all over Europe, is nothing but the crypts and the bloods, gangs, gangs who have murdered and killed and destroyed the freedom of peoples all over the earth, and today they are in power.

00:07:35.000 They're ruthless, they're murderous, They are nothing more than gang wars, secret societies, criminal cults, criminal operations.

00:07:44.000 Wow, you just made a point.

00:07:46.000 Whenever I see the low-level Crips and Bloods and the Vatos, they're all calling themselves Latin Kings. 1.00

00:07:52.000 Their symbols are little crowns.

00:07:53.000 They have secret handshakes and signs.

00:07:56.000 And that really is just it.

00:07:58.000 That's it.

00:07:58.000 That's the name of the tune.

00:08:00.000 Royalty and holy people at the top, the priests and the holy ones of And all the different religions from the Billy Grahams to the papacy to all the silly nonsense that's on Christian television with all the preachers who are making 10-15 million dollars with their huge enormous churches. 0.74

00:08:19.000 It's nothing more than a con job. 0.81

00:08:23.000 It's a con job.

00:08:25.000 And people are extraordinarily interested in being lied to, deceived, You know, even in the Bible, there's a story about Pontius Pilate bringing Jesus to the crowd with Barabbas. 0.97

00:08:39.000 And on the one hand, he's got Barabbas, which everybody knows is a con artist and a murderer and a thief.

00:08:45.000 And then on the other side is Jesus, who represents the truth and the light. 1.00

00:08:50.000 And it's a metaphoric story where government says to the people, Pontius Pilate, head of government, says to the people, Here is Barabbas, a murdering, thieving scumbag. 0.98

00:09:05.000 And here is Jesus, representing the truth and the light. 0.97

00:09:09.000 And the scripture says, with one voice, the people cried out, Give us Barabbas! 0.78

00:09:14.000 Which is translated symbolically to mean, when the people of this world are given an opportunity to know the truth, or to crawl on their knees before their masters, Who are nothing more than liars, murderers, bloodshedding thieves.

00:09:29.000 People will always support the masters.

00:09:33.000 They don't want the truth.

00:09:34.000 That's what I was going to ask, is this morning, it's almost like a spirit.

00:09:38.000 I got criticized yesterday.

00:09:40.000 Somebody sent me a YouTube, a young guy saying, Alex used to say there was a new world order.

00:09:44.000 I choose not to believe it.

00:09:45.000 I don't want to believe it.

00:09:47.000 It doesn't exist.

00:09:48.000 I choose.

00:09:49.000 I heard all these radio shows with callers.

00:09:51.000 I'd flip channels and I'd come into work and it was other shows saying, I don't want to hear bad news anymore.

00:09:57.000 They don't understand.

00:09:58.000 If you face the bad news and deal with it, then you can have a good place to live in and have more liberty.

00:10:02.000 But when you just deny and want to live in denial and want to lie to yourself, you have a horrible world.

00:10:08.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:10:09.000 A lot of people, they want to be lied to.

00:10:12.000 They want to be conned.

00:10:13.000 They think it's cute and funny, and I don't understand it.

00:10:17.000 Well, I mean, you know, in a country that is Staggering in their economic woes and economic disabilities in this country.

00:10:27.000 People are crawling on their knees, sleeping in their cars, and yet the alcohol industry, smoking industry, television, Uh, entertainment movies are making a bumper crop.

00:10:40.000 They're making billions.

00:10:42.000 Why?

00:10:43.000 Because the people have lost their souls. 0.63

00:10:46.000 They have nothing to live for.

00:10:48.000 And that was designed, that was a seduction because it's almost like a joke now. 0.98

00:10:52.000 I talk to people on the street and it's like they're getting more retarded by the week. 1.00

00:10:56.000 Without a doubt. 0.91

00:10:57.000 Absolutely.

00:10:58.000 What is going on?

00:10:59.000 It's like a mass mutation is taking place before my eyes.

00:11:03.000 Absolutely.

00:11:04.000 I'm telling you, and it's frightening because I know what the future is going to be.

00:11:09.000 I already know what's coming.

00:11:11.000 There's going to be a time very soon when Americans, generally speaking, and the worst part about it is that the masses will never wake up.

00:11:20.000 They will just become Acclimated to the system.

00:11:25.000 Well I read government documents, I mean the new thing said you'll be arrested if you're seen hugging your child or kissing them.

00:11:30.000 That's right.

00:11:30.000 I mean so and the government says we'll be in gray uniforms with shaved heads basically lobotomized and that's who's even allowed to live and I see them phasing that in rather quickly the way it's going.

00:11:42.000 That's exactly what I'm saying and so I'm frightened because I know what is coming on the earth.

00:11:48.000 I know the kind of world which is coming and the people have no idea generally speaking the public doesn't know they don't care because they've been acclimated to it they have already learned how to crawl on their knees when they see uh... some holy most some holy man with uh... with a robo at that the black role they shaken fear uh... efforts of the black role for the priest a shaken fear so they've been acclimated and taught 0.55

00:12:16.000 To be impressed with movie stars and wealthy people with big money.

00:12:22.000 But it seems that the elite themselves have gotten more reckless and wild.

00:12:26.000 Oh, of course.

00:12:27.000 And the reason why is because they realize the entire human race is worthless.

00:12:33.000 The entire human race is going to buy anything you put out there And now it's like the criminal element doesn't even know what to do with itself anymore.

00:12:43.000 It's so easy.

00:12:43.000 It's so easy to just fool the people because they love it.

00:12:48.000 Well, that's... I mean, exactly.

00:12:50.000 That's like the White House publicly says they're running Al-Qaeda and has them attacking Iran, and the media says Iran is Al-Qaeda when they're Shiites, the opposite group.

00:13:00.000 And then, it's just all over the news, Republicans saying, we love terror attacks, they sure help us.

00:13:09.000 I mean, how much more obvious, and then Gary Hart writes a letter, has it published in the newspaper, saying, our government stages attacks, Iran better do what they're told.

00:13:19.000 I mean, they're basically, they may come out and say they did it soon.

00:13:24.000 But you know what?

00:13:25.000 Nobody's going to care.

00:13:26.000 Couldn't care less, because it doesn't mean much to anybody anyway.

00:13:32.000 Even on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, when he does the jaywalks, when he walks down the street and talks to people and asks the average American, you know, who won the Second World War?

00:13:43.000 They don't even know what you're talking about.

00:13:44.000 They didn't know there was a Second World War.

00:13:47.000 And of course, that thing we talked about before, about that young lady Miss Teen America.

00:13:55.000 That was so appalling to me.

00:13:57.000 I still wake up sweaty.

00:13:59.000 But that's how, listen, that's how people are.

00:14:02.000 If you know any history, they look at you like you're weird, and people kind of sit back in their chairs and act scared.

00:14:09.000 I have friends, my personal friends, many years ago, that's what they used to say about me, that you're weird.

00:14:17.000 You study, and one guy told me, he said, you're the only person I know Uh, in our circle of friends, that you don't fit.

00:14:24.000 I mean, there's something about you that's just not right.

00:14:27.000 And I said, in what way?

00:14:29.000 Well, I mean, you read all those, all that crazy stuff.

00:14:31.000 And I said, like what?

00:14:32.000 Well, for instance, all those law books and all that stuff about religion and all that.

00:14:37.000 And, uh, you know, the, what the bottom line is, is that he is so far removed from reality that anybody has a half a brain looks like a freak to him.

00:14:48.000 I know what it is.

00:14:49.000 If you are smart, intelligent, and inquisitive, you're not going to fit in this world.

00:14:55.000 Stay there, stay there, Jordan Maxwell.

00:14:57.000 We're going to keep talking.

00:14:59.000 Jordan, we're going to skip this break, and then we're going to take the next one if you need a break.

00:15:05.000 Jordan, continuing along those lines, timeline-wise, When do you think they're going to try to start their mass culling?

00:15:15.000 I mean, we know cancer is way up.

00:15:17.000 We know they're injecting us.

00:15:18.000 It's in the food.

00:15:19.000 We know that, I mean, literally, I know a ton of people are 25, 30 years old, got cancer, people dying, little kids everywhere dying from it.

00:15:26.000 You know, the brain damaging everywhere.

00:15:27.000 I mean, we know they're carrying it out.

00:15:29.000 But I mean, when is it really going to, I mean, how do you see things unfolding?

00:15:33.000 Well, I think that it's like a train going downhill with the brakes off.

00:15:39.000 They're scurrying to do anything and everything they can now, because it's like nothing succeeds like success.

00:15:47.000 And so the more successful they become, the more arrogant and out of control they are, until now it's a feeding frenzy.

00:15:58.000 Exactly, a mass looting, a sacking of humanity.

00:16:01.000 Exactly.

00:16:02.000 It's out of control. 0.98

00:16:04.000 They've tried to bring in pure evil, and now it's just a bloody orgy. 0.97

00:16:08.000 That's exactly right. 0.97

00:16:09.000 That's what I see.

00:16:10.000 And nothing succeeds like success.

00:16:12.000 You see the same thing I see.

00:16:14.000 Exactly.

00:16:14.000 They're just frothing, destroying minds, poisoning everybody, poisoning themselves.

00:16:18.000 That's the thing I notice.

00:16:19.000 Even their high-level minions like Bill Clinton and stuff, they all don't care what happens.

00:16:24.000 It's like O'Brien says to Winston in 1984, look, I'm falling apart, don't laugh at me.

00:16:30.000 The fact that I'm falling apart to carry out this evil shows the vigor of the larger creature.

00:16:35.000 Yeah, of course.

00:16:38.000 I see it very, and it frightens me because I see the children on the streets, little ones in schools, thinking, my God, what kind of a world are we leaving our children?

00:16:51.000 You know, and people say, well, I see a light at the end of the tunnel, and people are waking up, and I said, look, the only light at the end of the tunnel is a train coming.

00:17:00.000 Because eventually, you're going to wake up and find out that the situation was far more serious than you even suspected.

00:17:08.000 Well, that's the thing, is that people think I fearmonger exaggerate, and literally 99 times out of 100, it's many times worse than what I even thought.

00:17:17.000 Absolutely.

00:17:18.000 No doubt about it.

00:17:19.000 No doubt about it.

00:17:21.000 And that's what scares me, is that it's so much worse than what you're saying.

00:17:26.000 And now the mentality frightens me.

00:17:30.000 Yesterday I went to Disney Studios, for example.

00:17:33.000 To deliver a letter.

00:17:35.000 I got a letter from Disney for some piece of business and they said, please get this in the mail immediately or bring it over to us because we need this paperwork immediately.

00:17:46.000 So I put it in an envelope and drove over to Disney and drove up to the security gate and said, would you please drop this in the mail for a certain party?

00:17:55.000 And they said, oh no, no, no, no.

00:17:57.000 We have to open it up and read it.

00:17:59.000 We have to sit down And so the security guy has to open the letter and sit down and read my personal letter and read what's in it first before he can decide if he will let that piece of mail go through.

00:18:11.000 Because he doesn't know because he's got a badge and he's in charge.

00:18:15.000 Yeah, I mean, they're just habitualizing total tyranny. 0.88

00:18:18.000 Everything.

00:18:18.000 Purely.

00:18:20.000 And I said, why do you have to read my personal mail and a personal contract that has nothing to do with you?

00:18:26.000 It's addressed to Disney Company.

00:18:29.000 It's addressed to a particular person.

00:18:30.000 You don't have to open it and read it.

00:18:32.000 I've noticed that's what happens in Nazi tyrannies and others, is finally even their own minions just are frothing themselves. 0.77

00:18:39.000 I bet that isn't even a policy.

00:18:41.000 No.

00:18:42.000 It doesn't matter.

00:18:43.000 It doesn't matter.

00:18:43.000 He has a badge.

00:18:46.000 And therefore he is in charge.

00:18:48.000 Same thing at the airports.

00:18:50.000 People at the airport and airport security have never had a job.

00:18:53.000 I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, let's talk about that.

00:18:55.000 Here we go.

00:18:57.000 Revolution.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, they're gonna put in every major U.S.

00:19:02.000 airport a system where you're totally naked, scans an image and saves it of your naked body.

00:19:09.000 I told you that six years ago, now it's mainstream news and they tell you.

00:19:14.000 Now they take blood without warrants at checkpoints.

00:19:17.000 No doubt about it.

00:19:18.000 I mean, anybody that's got more than 500 brain cells going all in the same direction knows that.

00:19:22.000 bringing up the airports.

00:19:23.000 This is our slave training, isn't it, Jordan?

00:19:25.000 No doubt about it.

00:19:27.000 I mean, anybody that's got more than 500 brain cells going all in the same direction knows it.

00:19:32.000 It's outrageous, but I was just saying that I went to Disney Studios yesterday, because I got a letter from Disney saying that there was a piece of work that I'm doing with Disney, I was just saying that I went to Disney Studios yesterday because I got a letter from Disney saying that there was a piece of work that I'm doing with Disney, and they needed a contract signed.

00:19:48.000 And so they said, get this back to us immediately because you only have a couple of days to get this contract in.

00:19:54.000 So get it immediately or bring it over.

00:19:56.000 So I took the contract over in the envelope, sealed it up, and drove over there.

00:20:01.000 And all the security guard had to do was throw it in the mailbox.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, just throw it in the mailbox and drop it in the mail.

00:20:06.000 So I said, this is just a piece of mail, but I wanted to drop it in instead of mailing it because it's time sensitive.

00:20:13.000 And he said, oh, no, no, we can't do that.

00:20:15.000 So we have to open it.

00:20:16.000 We have to open it up, and I have to read it to see what's in it first before I can deliver the mail.

00:20:22.000 I have to at Disney.

00:20:23.000 I have to open the mail, and I have to read the contract, and I've got to see exactly who wrote this contract and who signed it and what it's all about.

00:20:33.000 See, just no privacy, no nothing?

00:20:35.000 None.

00:20:36.000 Just total control?

00:20:37.000 Total.

00:20:39.000 And I said, "Why don't you just drop it in the mail?" Because if there's anything wrong, the people who it's going to will tell me, "That's not your business to know.

00:20:48.000 You're just a security." No, no, I've got the badge.

00:20:51.000 I'm in charge.

00:20:52.000 It's my, I'm the boss 'cause I have the badge.

00:20:55.000 So I have to open the mail and I have to sit down and take a few minutes and read this contract and see who it's going to and who signed it and before I can drop it in the mail, And I said, why don't you just drop it in the mail?

00:21:08.000 No, no.

00:21:09.000 I have the badge and it's my job and I'm in charge.

00:21:12.000 Well, it's the same kind of thing at the airport.

00:21:16.000 That's why I don't fly anymore.

00:21:19.000 That's why I do not fly anymore.

00:21:21.000 Cause I don't want to have to take my pants off, my shoes off.

00:21:24.000 And have everything... Why bother?

00:21:27.000 But now it's going to be on the buses, trains, and the sides of the street.

00:21:31.000 And they know!

00:21:31.000 They know it's dog training.

00:21:33.000 Training us how to be slaves.

00:21:35.000 Well, that's it.

00:21:36.000 I don't know what else to say.

00:21:38.000 It's all right there in your face.

00:21:39.000 Well, I mean, here's the deal.

00:21:41.000 If the United States is run by the Knights Templars, or I guess you said it's inseparable, and then the Vatican wants to get rid of the borders, why does every city, and I have articles that came out in the news today and yesterday, mainline news, the police do not arrest illegals for drinking and driving, they do not arrest them for anything but felonies. 0.66

00:21:58.000 and they are also hiring aggravated felons that are mainly foreigners who join the military, and the illegals are literally above the law, and then even when the police say Mexican troops are kidnapping and killing Americans, the news tells them that can't be true.

00:22:14.000 I mean, why is Mexico so precious?

00:22:17.000 Well, because it's a base, first of all, it's a very important base for revolution in the North Americas.

00:22:28.000 It's a very important operating base, like the Contras have bases in Central America, like the, uh, Medellin Cartel have their protected bases of operation for drug trafficking.

00:22:40.000 Well, for tyranny and, uh, and drug trafficking, Underworld activities.

00:22:47.000 Mexico is a hotbed.

00:22:48.000 My God, anybody who's more than 10 years old has been to Mexico knows that. 0.98

00:22:53.000 Mexico is a hotbed for secret societies, crime, criminal syndicates, drug trafficking.

00:23:02.000 So you want to make sure that the borders are left open because the bottom line is that Europe has had enough of America freedom.

00:23:12.000 I mean, that's so obvious to me, because I've been looking at it for so many years.

00:23:18.000 It is obviously... And we're going to be destroyed by Hook or by Crook?

00:23:23.000 Absolutely.

00:23:25.000 Because, you know, that's the only thing Bush ever said that is 100% correct.

00:23:29.000 He said that Our enemies hate us because of our freedom.

00:23:36.000 The terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom, and then you find out the terrorist is the black ops. 0.81

00:23:42.000 And they did it to get our freedom, and the government's taken all our freedom.

00:23:46.000 Well, but our enemies, the enemy of the American people, hate us because of our freedom.

00:23:51.000 And I'm going to tell you something that is the bottom line at the end of the day, that is the only truth there is, is that the enemies of this great republic Hate this republic because they cannot have a new world order in which the entire human race crawls on its knees like animals to their masters of superior masters

00:24:14.000 With a country that talks about individual freedom, liberty, and justice for all, you've got to destroy this nation, and who are the enemies?

00:24:26.000 It's the Roman system of Europe that has been dominating the Earth for 2,300 years. 0.83

00:24:34.000 ...of which America rose up against.

00:24:37.000 Jordan, stay there.

00:24:38.000 Gotta go to break.

00:24:39.000 We're gonna talk behind the scenes, too.

00:24:40.000 But, uh, very, very interesting, ladies and gentlemen.

00:24:43.000 We'll be right back.

00:24:48.000 Jordan, let's keep talking behind the scenes here, but we do have folks watching on PrisonPlanet.tv and listening on the web right now, and immortalized on the web.

00:24:58.000 Jordan, and what a perfect plan to use the U.S.

00:25:02.000 as the instrument to attack all these innocent countries, to carry out torture, to let the torture news come out, and then we get the blame, the United States gets the blame, and then we're totally replaced with the whole European Union system.

00:25:15.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:16.000 If you go on my website, which we've been talking about, to questions, and we were talking about that on page one of questions, I show how the Vatican, from the air, and looking down on the Vatican, you can see the Union Jack flag right in the courtyard of the Vatican, and how the... Then if you scroll down, we're talking about dog tags.

00:25:42.000 And why did the military have dog tags? 0.99

00:25:44.000 Well, Henry Kissinger, in his book, Kiss the Boy's Goodbye, by Henry Kissinger, he said, quote, military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. 1.00

00:26:00.000 Henry Kissinger says of the U.S. 1.00

00:26:02.000 military, they're just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns. 1.00

00:26:09.000 So that's what the elite think of the American military personnel, men and women in uniform. 1.00

00:26:15.000 They're just a bunch of morons to send them out, and who the hell cares that they get killed? 1.00

00:26:20.000 They were just a bunch of animals anyway. 1.00

00:26:23.000 As a matter of fact, according to English law and the English language, a man and a woman, by the correct use of English language, man or woman, It's masculine or feminine.

00:26:36.000 That's the correct way to talk about a man or woman.

00:26:41.000 It's masculine or feminine.

00:26:43.000 According to British English law, animal is referred to as male or female.

00:26:51.000 And so consequently, on all of our ID, it says, are you male or female?

00:26:58.000 You are not considered by law a man or woman, because man or woman, according to British Maritime Law, have certain rights and privileges that an animal don't have.

00:27:10.000 And since we don't have that, we are male and female, not masculine, feminine.

00:27:15.000 That's the law.

00:27:16.000 Alright, we're going to go back live on the main show here in just a moment.

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00:27:24.000 Here we go, Jordan.

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00:27:58.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:28:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:28:13.000 In the last month there have been more car bombings, more rocket attacks, more killings.

00:28:18.000 Mexican troops in uniform came into Phoenix and killed people.

00:28:22.000 How many miles over the border is that?

00:28:25.000 And LAPD won't ask about immigrant status.

00:28:28.000 Associated Press, I was mentioning that.

00:28:30.000 I've got several articles like this in front of me today.

00:28:35.000 That's out of the Associated Press.

00:28:37.000 And my whole point is, is that the Spanish stations are all got names like the rebel, the race, it's all we're going to take over, we're going to get you, we're going to overthrow the U.S. 0.53

00:28:48.000 And the government's saying, oh my gosh, give all your rights up, there's Al-Qaeda everywhere, and there's no real Al-Qaeda, it's Al-Cieda.

00:28:54.000 But meanwhile, there is a real group with TV companies buying 700 billboards saying, L.A.

00:29:00.000 belongs to Mexico.

00:29:03.000 You've got people that are tourists to Mexico get shook down and robbed, the media covers that up.

00:29:09.000 You've got the illegal aliens, and I've been told this. 1.00

00:29:11.000 Cops called in yesterday and agreed, but I've had it happen right here in Austin.

00:29:14.000 You can drunk drive, no insurance, no license, above the law.

00:29:18.000 Citizens, the books are thrown at, and the police are told, do not arrest illegals. 0.73

00:29:21.000 And it says right here, they can be under felony charges.

00:29:25.000 And they do not bring up if they're illegal or legal or not.

00:29:29.000 That is not an issue.

00:29:30.000 So, for all intents and purposes, the borders are wide open.

00:29:33.000 That fence they're putting up is to keep Americans in. 0.97

00:29:39.000 You know, my whole point is, during the break you were talking about Henry Kissinger's own book, Kiss the Boys Goodbye, and it's a quote he admits, where he said the military are dumb animals to be used by us. 0.85

00:29:51.000 The police are hated by the New World Order and used, the military are hated and used, they call them dumb animals, our future is being destroyed, and I guess, Jordan Maxwell, we the people and the establishment, the minions, I guess we're just going to assist in our own destruction, Jordan. 0.83

00:30:09.000 I guess so. 0.95

00:30:09.000 I guess it's part of who we are as a people. 0.95

00:30:13.000 We have lost our souls, we have lost our minds, and we've lost our republic, and now we're just going to lose, period.

00:30:21.000 And the reason why is because most people, I understand, it bothers me, but I understand why Most people do not relate to the stuff that I've been talking about for 45 years, and I understand why, because most of what I talk about has nothing to do with football, sports, basketball, none of that.

00:30:42.000 And it has to do with researching and studying the movements of the bankers, the history of the world, ancient history, and how it impacted football.

00:30:51.000 But why would people not want to know how the world really works?

00:30:54.000 This is all incredible.

00:30:56.000 It doesn't have anything to do with basketball.

00:30:59.000 So what is the importance of it all?

00:31:01.000 I mean, if it had something to do with hooters or football, it might be of importance.

00:31:07.000 So most people don't give a damn about America.

00:31:10.000 Well, they better care that their children are being implanted with cancer. 0.99

00:31:14.000 Well, I know.

00:31:16.000 Look at, like the Bible has Jesus saying, look, by their fruit you shall know them.

00:31:20.000 We're supposedly a very Christian nation.

00:31:22.000 We're a very holy and righteous nation.

00:31:25.000 By their fruits, you shall know them.

00:31:27.000 What is the fruitage of the American civilization today? 0.97

00:31:30.000 50 million abortions, huge buckets of pus, just mental illness, total degeneracy. 0.98

00:31:37.000 That's it.

00:31:38.000 Throw in drive-by shootings, crimes, gang members, rapes.

00:31:43.000 Incredible.

00:31:44.000 And law?

00:31:45.000 There is no law.

00:31:46.000 Law is a mockery.

00:31:48.000 That's by their fruit, you shall know them.

00:31:51.000 I'm telling you, it's just an incredible story.

00:31:54.000 And then here's a great quote by George Bush's mother, the President's mother.

00:32:00.000 Her beautiful mind? 0.65

00:32:02.000 Yeah, Barbara Bush said when she was asked about all the coffins coming back from the Middle East, all the young men who are dying there.

00:32:11.000 That was Larry King Live, yeah.

00:32:13.000 Larry King Live, she says, quote, This is Barbara Bush saying it about American troops.

00:32:18.000 She said, why should we hear about body bags and death?

00:32:23.000 It's not relevant.

00:32:24.000 So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? 0.98

00:32:29.000 I was just amazed that the president's mother would say, who the hell cares about these chumps? 0.96

00:32:35.000 And in that same newscast, exactly, in that same newscast she was kind of having a meltdown. 1.00

00:32:39.000 She said, if you talk bad about my family, I will have you killed. 0.99

00:32:43.000 Yeah, I loved it. 0.98

00:32:45.000 So I mean, she's really telling us who they are. 1.00

00:32:48.000 It's, you know, you're a bunch of scum troops, you're going to serve us and love us, I don't want to hear about your dead bodies, shut up maggot scum and help me bring down this country! 1.00

00:32:57.000 And they even tell us, you are scum! 1.00

00:33:00.000 Kissinger writes a book and says, I hate you filth! 1.00

00:33:02.000 And they say, yes, yes, I love you. 1.00

00:33:04.000 Call me filth. 0.99

00:33:05.000 I want to attack more countries. 1.00

00:33:07.000 Inject me full of deadly shots. 0.99

00:33:08.000 Let me breathe. 0.99

00:33:09.000 D-U. 0.99

00:33:10.000 I love dying. 0.69

00:33:11.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:33:12.000 Yeah, and as I said, Henry Kissinger wrote a book called Kiss the Boy's Goodbye.

00:33:17.000 You could buy it in any good book store. 1.00

00:33:19.000 And he said, quite literally, in a quote, he says in his own book, military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used As pawns in foreign policy. 1.00

00:33:29.000 Period. 1.00

00:33:30.000 They're just animals, so who the hell cares if they get killed? 0.97

00:33:34.000 My God, who cares? 0.98

00:33:35.000 And the sick thing is, you try to tell one of these average guys that, they will laugh right at you.

00:33:40.000 You know what, go read his book.

00:33:41.000 I didn't write the book.

00:33:42.000 No, I know, but I mean, that's the incredible part.

00:33:44.000 You go, your master says you're nothing, and that they're using you, and they'll just smile at you, and say, but I've got some pieces of brass on my chest.

00:33:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:52.000 Well, Napoleon talked about that.

00:33:54.000 He said, man, people They'll step over each other to get killed if you just give them some pieces of metal.

00:34:00.000 I know.

00:34:01.000 And then of course, you know, the Leopold Stone, that's also on page one of my box on, let's see, what is it, on questions.

00:34:12.000 On page one, research, on the bottom, the most holy of all relics in all of England, the most holiest relic in all of England is something called the Leopold Stone.

00:34:27.000 It's treasured by the royalty as a very important symbol for royalty power in England.

00:34:34.000 The Leopold Stone.

00:34:36.000 Go on my website to questions and scroll down on the first page to the bottom and you will see the Leopold Stone.

00:34:45.000 All it is is a phallic symbol.

00:34:47.000 Have you seen it yourself yet?

00:34:49.000 Yes, I've seen it.

00:34:50.000 I've seen it.

00:34:53.000 So, they put the stuff in your face, phallic symbols, mail-in elections.

00:34:58.000 In fact, we'll put the, I saw it weeks ago, we'll put the layout of Bill Stone up on the screen.

00:35:03.000 Which sub-page is that?

00:35:04.000 It's on page one of questions, on the research box called questions, page one at the bottom.

00:35:12.000 Okay, so you click research, and then you click on the one that says questions.

00:35:16.000 Right.

00:35:17.000 And then you scroll to the bottom of page one.

00:35:20.000 And you will see the most holy relic in all of England.

00:35:25.000 It's called the Leopold Stone.

00:35:27.000 There it is, sitting there.

00:35:28.000 I'm on research.

00:35:29.000 I see words to search, pictures, quotes.

00:35:32.000 No, go to questions.

00:35:34.000 The box that says questions.

00:35:35.000 Have you ever wondered?

00:35:38.000 I think it's called, have you ever wondered?

00:35:39.000 Yeah, yeah, there it is.

00:35:40.000 Have you ever wondered?

00:35:41.000 Go to page one.

00:35:44.000 Have you ever wondered?

00:35:44.000 Then scroll down to the bottom of the page, number four.

00:35:49.000 And you will see the Leopold Stone.

00:35:51.000 And then beneath it, of course, is a footnote that you can go on the web and study the subject of the Leopold Stone for yourself.

00:36:00.000 Do you see it yet?

00:36:01.000 Yes, I'm on there.

00:36:03.000 So, that's the most holy relic of British royalty.

00:36:08.000 And so, I don't know what that tells you.

00:36:11.000 Tell folks what the dog tags mean.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, the dog tag, that's what military people and people in law enforcement have an identification thing on a chain around their neck and it's called a dog tag.

00:36:25.000 And the reason why is because that's exactly what the military is conceived to be.

00:36:30.000 A bunch of dogs.

00:36:31.000 I mean, that's what Henry Kissinger said.

00:36:33.000 I don't know, it's just outrageous to me.

00:36:38.000 All you gotta do is just read a book.

00:36:40.000 Just go to the library and get a book on any of these subjects.

00:36:43.000 And like I said, just go on my website.

00:36:45.000 I've already done all the research for you.

00:36:47.000 Just go on my website and go to Research Boxes.

00:36:50.000 And there's all kinds of boxes there on all kinds of subjects.

00:36:55.000 And go through my website because there's a lot of material on the links.

00:37:00.000 And I do it even, there's just so much on my website.

00:37:05.000 Well, let's go through words of this research, and just spend a minute or so on each one.

00:37:10.000 The Black Hand.

00:37:11.000 Tell folks about the Black Hand.

00:37:12.000 Well, that was a precursor to what we today call Mafia.

00:37:16.000 La Cosa Nostra.

00:37:18.000 A long time ago in the Middle Ages, what we call today Mafia, La Cosa Nostra, was called Black Hand.

00:37:25.000 Black, of course, being the planet Saturn, so it was a Saturnian secret society. 0.97

00:37:31.000 The Black Hand later become known as La Cosa Nostra.

00:37:35.000 It was connected to the Masonic Orders.

00:37:39.000 And of course, Hoover said it didn't exist, kind of like the North American Union doesn't exist.

00:37:45.000 I mean, this incredible denial.

00:37:47.000 How do you deal with the denial when all of this is going on around people and they just say it doesn't exist?

00:37:54.000 I know.

00:37:54.000 And so what can you do?

00:37:55.000 I mean, what can you say?

00:37:57.000 All I know is I just put it out there.

00:37:59.000 And people, like I said, ask me questions that are right here on my website.

00:38:03.000 No, I know, but we're doing this live on the radio.

00:38:06.000 British East India Company.

00:38:07.000 I mean, I know all about them, but tell folks why that's so important.

00:38:10.000 This is the modern model of the corporate fascism.

00:38:13.000 That's right.

00:38:13.000 That's where the United States is a corporation.

00:38:16.000 There's a world of difference between the United States of America up until 1868, and after 1868, we have a new operation called United States.

00:38:28.000 It's not a republic anymore, it's called a public policy.

00:38:32.000 You know, even the Supreme Court, the head of the Supreme Court, I've got a quote on my website, or I'm going to put it on if I don't have it, where the head of the Supreme Court said that the Constitution of the United States was officially done away with in 1868, officially, by law, in 1868.

00:38:53.000 Period.

00:38:54.000 It has not been enforced, it has not been of any value in this country or in this operation of this republic at all, period.

00:39:02.000 But now that they still kept some of the old conventions, now they're fully doing away with it, even in practice, chattel property.

00:39:11.000 Yeah, chattel property, that's you.

00:39:15.000 It's movable dirt, it's property, it's like a real estate.

00:39:19.000 And part of the real estate is you, because you live on the real estate.

00:39:23.000 So they refer to humans as chattel property or movable dirt.

00:39:29.000 Cognitive dissidence.

00:39:31.000 Yeah, cognitive dissidence is what the whole country, this whole entire republic is filled with cognitive dissidence.

00:39:38.000 Meaning, if you hear something that you've never heard before, or is in opposition to something you've always believed, Your mind cannot be wrapped around that information.

00:39:51.000 You just don't want to hear it.

00:39:52.000 You don't want to hear it because it doesn't have anything to do with what you believe, and you have your own truth, and so you don't want to look at the facts.

00:40:00.000 You can't even deal with it.

00:40:02.000 Like the fact that we told everybody there was mercury in there, and the government said there's no mercury in the shots, and now that they've had to admit, okay, it brand-damaged tens of millions, and it is in there.

00:40:11.000 Yeah, I know.

00:40:14.000 Like I said... But the slaves were told that it was not in there, so they will default to the old line and say, I don't care if the government admits it now, I love it.

00:40:26.000 Yeah, I know.

00:40:28.000 Another word in the box of words to research Congress.

00:40:32.000 We talk about the Congress.

00:40:34.000 People have no idea in the world what the word Congress really means.

00:40:37.000 Tell them what it means. 0.95

00:40:39.000 If you go to any good dictionary, Congress is sex. 0.98

00:40:42.000 You know, I have two words, to caress and then Congress. 0.97

00:40:48.000 And you have the upper and lower house with the goddess and the male phallus coming together.

00:40:52.000 That's right. 0.98

00:40:52.000 The Washington Monument is a male erection and it connects directly to the ovaries of the oval office. 0.98

00:41:02.000 And that's why you have the Congress, because you've got the male phallic Washington Monument connecting to the oval, or ovaries, or oval ovaries. 1.00

00:41:10.000 Basically, we have a sun guy slash sex cult running things. 0.88

00:41:14.000 Well, that's the bottom line. 1.00

00:41:15.000 And they love killing people. 0.99

00:41:17.000 I want to talk about the enjoyment of slaughtering. 0.99

00:41:20.000 Like, you or I would feel bad murdering masses of people, especially children. 0.94

00:41:24.000 They are very pious and say it's a very beautiful, loving thing.

00:41:28.000 Well, I mean, that one general said it on my website.

00:41:31.000 I've got that quote in the box of quotes. 0.71

00:41:34.000 There's a picture of the general and testify where he said, one of the top generals in the Middle East said, for American generals, said, yeah, it's sometimes fun to kill people.

00:41:43.000 We kind of like it. 0.95

00:41:44.000 It's kind of fun shooting people. 0.84

00:41:46.000 It's kind of like a game. 0.96

00:41:48.000 See how many you can take down before lunch. 0.99

00:41:50.000 You know, so it's kind of fun to kill people. 0.99

00:41:52.000 But then if you were going after his family, you'd take it real serious. 0.99

00:41:55.000 Oh no, that's different, because now you are a terrorist.

00:41:59.000 I mean, I just don't know what to think about the whole world I live in anymore.

00:42:03.000 Hey, what was the... I'm going crazy.

00:42:05.000 What was the Inquisition?

00:42:06.000 I mean, there were so many Inquisitions.

00:42:08.000 Yeah, there were so many, but basically the Pope today Ratzinger was the head, before he became Pope, was the head of that organization in the Vatican that was, we call, the Inquisition.

00:42:22.000 Yeah, that upkeeps, quote, the doctrine, that keeps the continuity of the Church together.

00:42:26.000 Yes, and what it was during the Middle Ages, we call it the Dark Ages, because the human race was going through things which were very dark, and that's why we call it That time as the Dark Ages because we were in the really going through some dark stuff.

00:42:40.000 Now why were they trying to suppress all scientific knowledge?

00:42:43.000 We knew they'd hoarded it all and knew the truth.

00:42:46.000 Why did they want it?

00:42:47.000 And now they want to, the Club of Rome, the Bilderberg, they say again, they want 10% of us to be living, basically living on farms, everybody else exterminated, and then they'll be in high-tech citadels, bases separately from us.

00:43:01.000 Well I know, but that's exactly right.

00:43:03.000 But the Inquisition It was an extraordinarily important time in human history in Europe when anyone who would even act like you're going to, that you are for liberty and justice and freedom, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom to think, you were hunted down by the Vatican, brought in, and we know the stuff that went on.

00:43:28.000 The Vatican priests would pour hot lead into children's faces In front of the parents, they would open your mouth, the children's mouth, and pour hot lead.

00:43:36.000 Now we see that being repeated. 0.96

00:43:38.000 Now, psychologically, they know when they do the White House memos, ordering the Joint Chiefs of Staff to tell them to torture children with pliers, rip their genitals off, and then the public hears that and accepts it, and says, oh yeah, that's Jack Bauer. 0.84

00:43:54.000 That's a great journey of evil, isn't it? 0.82

00:43:56.000 If they can get us to accept the most evil thing, torturing children sexually, then they've got us, don't they, Jordan?

00:44:03.000 They've got the whole human race.

00:44:04.000 They've got the entire human race.

00:44:06.000 Go to any good law book.

00:44:08.000 Here's one on the words to research.

00:44:12.000 Look up the word human being.

00:44:13.000 A human being, according to this particular law book, says a human being is an animal, a monster.

00:44:22.000 Then you look up the word monster.

00:44:24.000 And it will tell you a monster is a human being and has no rights to anything, it's just an animal.

00:44:30.000 So it's all a big joke to them, that they've changed all the terms, you don't know what it means.

00:44:34.000 Office of Controlled Conflict Operations.

00:44:36.000 Yeah, and when you read Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler's book, Mein Kampf, we've known for, I mean, I grew up as a kid knowing, I had the New York Times, my dad showed it to me many years ago, and the New York Times had a huge article about Mein Kampf was written by a Jesuit priest.

00:44:57.000 It was written by a Father Stemple, S-T-A-E-M-P-F-L-E.

00:45:03.000 Go on my website and look up Father Stemple, and it will tell you all of the information there about who actually wrote Mein Kampf.

00:45:11.000 It was a Jesuit priest at the Vatican who wrote Mein Kampf for Adolf Hitler.

00:45:18.000 And so, you know, I just am amazed at how much people don't read.

00:45:24.000 That's what my website is all about.

00:45:26.000 Just go on my website and wander through all of the boxes, all of the links.

00:45:33.000 All of the, uh, esoteric research boxes.

00:45:35.000 A lot of stuff there.

00:45:37.000 Okay, Jordan, we are going to take calls.

00:45:39.000 We're not going to, because I want to just spend every minute covering issues with you here.

00:45:43.000 People want Jordan Maxwell on the show.

00:45:45.000 You've got him twice in one week.

00:45:46.000 We appreciate him.

00:45:47.000 JordanMaxwell.com.

00:45:48.000 We'll talk behind the scenes from PrisonPlanet.tv viewers right now.

00:45:51.000 Everybody else will be right back.

00:45:57.000 Hey, Jordan, most of these terms I know about, but I remember reading a little bit about Office of Controlled Conflict Operations.

00:46:05.000 Can you tell me about that?

00:46:06.000 Well, like you said, you know that.

00:46:11.000 They already have departments in government that will start the trouble, the wars or whatever, then control it, and then bring in, like we know, the opposing party.

00:46:24.000 They financed both sides.

00:46:26.000 It's just, you know, there were television shows made years ago.

00:46:32.000 What was it?

00:46:33.000 Get Smart?

00:46:34.000 Remember on Get Smart?

00:46:35.000 They got a new movie out, Get Smart, but in the television series Get Smart, there were two sides.

00:46:42.000 One side was called Chaos, and the other side was Control.

00:46:46.000 And what do you think they're telling you in the comic series Chaos and Control?

00:46:53.000 And consequently it was always both sides of being financed by the same people.

00:46:57.000 The same people caused the chaos are also the ones who are bringing the new control.

00:47:02.000 And that way they're always ready to roll out and be the saviors.

00:47:05.000 You accept their control and things get worse.

00:47:08.000 That's it.

00:47:08.000 And then they got more to save you and then it gets worse.

00:47:12.000 And worse and worse until one day you wake up and find out you've been had from day one.

00:47:17.000 Well, I was just going to say that all the power, all the control they've got, all the money, they really hate happy, healthy families.

00:47:24.000 They really hate people enjoying themselves.

00:47:27.000 Misery loves company, and the elite really just like to hurt people.

00:47:33.000 Can you talk about the mentality, or what makes the higher level initiates tick?

00:47:40.000 Well, look at what the way the SS Gestapo worked in Nazi Germany.

00:47:46.000 Watch the, you know, look at the way they, their pompous, arrogant attitude that all humans were nothing more to be used as animals.

00:47:55.000 That is precisely the attitude today in America today. 0.99

00:48:00.000 That the working class people are nothing more than just their kids can be raped, you can run them into the ground, jack up their gas prices, do anything you want to these people, because they're nothing but masses of ignorant human flesh. 0.99

00:48:15.000 So just do anything you want. 0.99

00:48:17.000 Take the good-luckin' ones and rape them, and take the children, sell them, do anything you please, because it really doesn't matter. 0.99

00:48:23.000 The people aren't going to do anything. 0.99

00:48:26.000 They didn't do anything with Ruby Ridge, they didn't do anything with, uh, what was it, the Branch Davidians?

00:48:36.000 Waco, yeah.

00:48:37.000 They didn't do anything at Waco.

00:48:38.000 They didn't do anything.

00:48:39.000 All of those were just to see if you would do something.

00:48:42.000 Now they have finally figured out the American people ain't gonna do nothing.

00:48:46.000 Period.

00:48:47.000 They're gonna go along with whatever you tell them.

00:48:50.000 So if you tell them to take off their pants at the airport, they'll do it.

00:48:53.000 Whatever you tell them, they'll do.

00:48:55.000 So as far as I'm concerned, I just look at the whole thing and I'm just amazed.

00:48:58.000 Alright, here we go.

00:48:59.000 Here we go.

00:49:03.000 Everybody knows that the days are loaded.

00:49:11.000 Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.

00:49:16.000 Everybody knows the war is over.

00:49:20.000 Everybody knows the good guys lost.

00:49:24.000 Everybody knows the fight was fixed.

00:49:28.000 The poor stay poor.

00:49:31.000 The rich get rich.

00:49:33.000 But now the elite don't even need us to tell their fields to run their machinery with robotics. 0.91

00:49:38.000 As Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems wrote, he went to a meeting with 200 plus elitists and he was shocked to hear them talking about how we're all going to have to be killed.

00:49:48.000 And the police officers out there, most of them will aid the system incrementally as the rest of us are euthanized, sterilized, given cancer, die.

00:49:56.000 They will watch as their sons, daughters, mothers, brothers die.

00:49:59.000 They themselves will die thanking their lord, thanking their government, thanking their master.

00:50:04.000 That is the new order slave grid.

00:50:06.000 At the highest levels of the New World Order, Jordan, I've heard it described as the Great White Brotherhood, the Council of Thirteen.

00:50:15.000 We know there's less than a hundred really true initiates that have the full picture of their master plan.

00:50:21.000 But as best you can tell, A, who are a few of the top initiates to the most secret elite group?

00:50:27.000 What's the name of that group?

00:50:28.000 And will they be able to carry out their plans?

00:50:35.000 The only way I can answer that is that, first of all, I'm not privy to be on the inside to know the top people are, but I've had enough experience when I got married.

00:50:44.000 You know, the person my wife was working for, I learned a lot, because I found out that so many of the people who are the real movers and shakers who are making things happen, you will never know their names because I found out that so many of the people who You will never hear their names ever.

00:51:05.000 And that all the people that you are hearing, like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and all those people, are not the real players.

00:51:14.000 The real players are so much more powerful and so much more hidden, you will never know who they really are.

00:51:23.000 They cannot afford to.

00:51:24.000 To have their name or their face ever put out in public.

00:51:28.000 So, I learned that a long time ago.

00:51:30.000 Well, we know as far as dynasties go, I mean, you know, you've got the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, the British.

00:51:37.000 You've got the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, certainly sit on large piles of the wealth.

00:51:41.000 Of course, of course they do.

00:51:42.000 But I mean, you're saying the true, you know, the true technocrats, though, that are really running the ship.

00:51:48.000 Yeah.

00:51:49.000 Our people, you will never know who they are.

00:51:52.000 You will never see their names.

00:51:53.000 You will never hear their names spoken, ever.

00:51:56.000 And those are the people who are really running the planet behind the scenes.

00:52:00.000 And like a classic example is the Vatican.

00:52:03.000 But the Vatican isn't the bottom line on this subject.

00:52:07.000 There are powers behind the Vatican.

00:52:10.000 There are, just as there was behind the Caesars of Rome.

00:52:14.000 Caesars of Rome saw themselves as gods.

00:52:17.000 But in point of fact, they had masters of their own.

00:52:21.000 Well, you've always got the inner councils and the orders and the bankers for it.

00:52:26.000 What's the real power behind the Vatican from?

00:52:29.000 Well, during the time of the Roman Empire, behind the Caesars, The raw child of the Rockefeller types behind the Caesar of Rome was called the Pissos family.

00:52:41.000 P-I-C-O-E-P-I-C-O-S, Pissos family. 0.94

00:52:45.000 So the black nobility of today? 0.98

00:52:47.000 Yeah, the black nobility of the Pissos family. 0.96

00:52:50.000 Uh, and the Peasos, the father was Arius Copernicus Peasos.

00:52:55.000 They were the real manipulators of the Roman Empire, along with their family and dynasties. 0.97

00:53:03.000 They were the wise men, the power behind the throne, pouring over the parchments in their citadels.

00:53:08.000 That's it.

00:53:09.000 That's exactly right.

00:53:10.000 And today, that still is today in operation.

00:53:14.000 Powerful people.

00:53:16.000 Behind world governments are setting, reading their... Here's an example on, you know, so above, so below.

00:53:23.000 Yep, exactly.

00:53:24.000 Here's another quick example, final segment with Jordan Maxwell coming up here after a one minute break.

00:53:28.000 There's a bank that owns a whole bunch of oil wells and gas wells all over Texas, and you never know, it's a tiny little bank and a little guy living in a trailer.

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00:54:56.000 Well, final segment with Jordan Maxwell's JordanMaxwell.com.

00:55:08.000 A lot of great books and videos available at his website.

00:55:11.000 Really appreciate him spending the last two hours with us.

00:55:17.000 Now, I was just talking to some family that was doing some business in East Texas.

00:55:21.000 They were telling me about this bank locally that owns so much of the land, so much of the property, so many of the houses.

00:55:27.000 And you find out the guy that owns this hundred-year-old bank Is in a little bitty house with a trailer behind it.

00:55:34.000 And you never know, you know, the guy's got like two teeth in his head.

00:55:38.000 There's lots of that.

00:55:39.000 And so that's at the local level.

00:55:41.000 Somebody worth, you know, half a billion dollars, conservatively.

00:55:45.000 You never even know they had any money.

00:55:46.000 There are not any listings of wealthy people.

00:55:48.000 And it's the same thing.

00:55:49.000 You hear Bill Gates is the richest with 80 billion bucks.

00:55:52.000 That's a joke, folks.

00:55:52.000 You notice he gave most of his money for eugenics.

00:55:55.000 So did Warren Buffett.

00:55:57.000 Then it turns out IBM set up Microsoft as a front company to get past trust busting.

00:56:02.000 You find out that it's set up for eugenics as a family trust. 0.97

00:56:06.000 That's their religion, isn't it?

00:56:09.000 It's killing us and hurting us. 1.00

00:56:11.000 It's a predator's religion. 0.87

00:56:12.000 They revel in hurting us, Jordan Maxwell.

00:56:15.000 That's right.

00:56:16.000 And to mutate the human race into a race of animals. 0.76

00:56:20.000 Oh my God, we've watched that on television and movies.

00:56:23.000 There have been tons of television shows and movies and books written about, you know, the New Order and Island of Lost Souls.

00:56:34.000 Back in 1939, Charles Lawton made a movie called Island of Lost Souls, 1965.

00:56:39.000 Yeah, that's on the island of Dr. Maru with the Genesis H.G. 0.93

00:56:43.000 Wells.

00:56:43.000 That's right, and that's precisely the point.

00:56:47.000 We've been told about this stuff for years in movies and TV about the world that's coming.

00:56:52.000 Well, it's about ultimate domination.

00:56:54.000 The greatest control freak doesn't just want your money and control.

00:56:57.000 They want to hurt you. 1.00

00:56:58.000 They want to kill you. 0.99

00:56:59.000 They want to turn you into a monkey creature and laugh at you because they want to be gods. 0.99

00:57:04.000 I was in a hotel in London. 1.00

00:57:06.000 And these people that were looking at us disdainfully, oh you're Alex Jones, and they're like, we're royal and we vacation all year and you're scum. 0.99

00:57:14.000 And whether they were or not, the point is, they wanted me to know that. 1.00

00:57:18.000 They're miserable, unhappy cancers. 0.98

00:57:20.000 You're right. 0.98

00:57:21.000 No doubt about it.

00:57:23.000 I need to say this again, if anybody's really interested in the subject of occult and secret societies, there's a reference book on my home page that's filled with that.

00:57:36.000 I don't know, 560 pages is a very thick book on all of the secret societies, occult orders of Europe, around the world, religious orders, the different cults of theology, secret societies, criminal societies.

00:57:52.000 It's just generally an incredibly well-written book called Occultiocracy, The World of the Occult Secret Societies.

00:58:02.000 And the most impressive book I ever have read on theology and religion was called Symbols, Sex, and the Stars.

00:58:11.000 And it is a very well-written book just explaining theology.

00:58:17.000 And then again, that term, the stars, the movie stars.

00:58:22.000 Of course!

00:58:24.000 Absolutely, and that's where we get it from.

00:58:26.000 And of course the other book I have on my home page is Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.

00:58:34.000 Incredibly important.

00:58:37.000 Explaining how the astrological symbols and terms that are used in secret societies have to have a book called Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.

00:58:52.000 It's right there on my home page.

00:58:54.000 And of course there's a downloadable a box just beneath it.

00:58:58.000 And there's all kinds of documents and materials that you can't find anywhere that I've made available to people.

00:59:04.000 Well, Jordan, I just want to say in closing, thank you so much for spending time with us again.

00:59:10.000 And coming up not this Sunday, but the Sunday after next, we've got you on the Sunday show.

00:59:14.000 And I'm glad you've been spending so much time with us.

00:59:17.000 And we'll go through some more of these terms and hopefully get people just to think about looking behind the curtain and realize there is a curtain.

00:59:24.000 We can argue about what's behind it all day, but the important thing is to get people thinking and to move forward, and I really appreciate you spending time with us, Jordan Maxwell.

00:59:32.000 Well, I thank you for being my friend and letting me on.

00:59:35.000 Thank you very much for everything.

00:59:36.000 You bet.

00:59:36.000 Thank you, Jordan Maxwell.

00:59:38.000 Yeah, listeners a few months ago were like, is Jordan Maxwell on?

00:59:41.000 Well, he agreed to come on.

00:59:42.000 He said he wasn't doing interviews anymore and we twisted his arm into it.

00:59:45.000 Two in one week.

00:59:47.000 So there is Jordan Maxwell for you and back in about a week and a half again for everybody.

00:59:54.000 State Rep Charles Key fighting the new world order straight ahead.

00:59:59.000 Now, from the makers of Loose Change, the most downloaded film in internet history, comes the long-awaited release of Loose Change Final.

01:00:06.000 Uh, no, he is still there.

01:00:07.000 One second.

01:00:08.000 For everything.

01:00:09.000 You bet.

01:00:09.000 Thank you, Jordan Maxwell.

01:00:11.000 Yeah, listeners a few months ago were like, is Jordan Maxwell on?

01:00:14.000 Well, he agreed to come on.

01:00:15.000 He said he wasn't doing interviews anymore and we twisted his arm into it.

01:00:18.000 Two in one week.

01:00:20.000 So there is Jordan Maxwell for you and back in about a week and a half.

01:00:24.000 Again, for everybody.

01:00:27.000 State Rep.

01:00:27.000 Charles Key fighting the New World Order straight ahead.

01:00:31.000 Now, from the makers of Loose Change, the most downloaded film in internet history, comes the long-awaited release of Loose Change Final Cut, an entirely new two-hour film that completely destroys the official fable forever.

01:00:45.000 Loose Change Final Cut is rated for all your cleaning needs, from bathing, because there's a war on for your mind.

01:00:54.000 Okay, we have State Representative Charles Key on with us.

01:00:59.000 For the next 55 minutes, he valiantly has exposed the fact that there's a cover-up of what really happened to the Oklahoma City bombing.

01:01:10.000 Since he first really pushed with grand jurors and others to expose that, it's come out that the Southern Poverty Law Center was involved in running the white supremacist compound.

01:01:21.000 At Elohim City.

01:01:23.000 They gotta get our guns one way or the other, don't they?

01:01:25.000 These America haters.

01:01:27.000 And it's also come out in sworn affidavits in major newspapers that McVeigh was a government operative.

01:01:33.000 We already knew that.

01:01:35.000 And the fact that the building was blown out, not in.

01:01:38.000 It's just amazing.

01:01:39.000 We cover that in my film, Road to Tyranny.

01:01:41.000 And I want to spend some time at the end of the interview dealing with the new developments there with Representative Key.

01:01:48.000 But about a week ago, we learned the good news.

01:01:55.000 And that dovetails with other states like Arizona, one of the Dakotas, New Hampshire saying that if a new world order continues or gun confiscation begins or any of this happens, we're going to pull out, we're going to secede.

01:02:08.000 Well, this story was from World Net Daily.

01:02:11.000 It was also in some of the Oklahoma papers.

01:02:12.000 Oklahoma defends, don't tread on me.

01:02:14.000 State House defends its sovereignty from D.C.

01:02:17.000 intrusion.

01:02:18.000 This is what we need, a declaration that the Feds are out of control.

01:02:21.000 I mean, they're federalizing everything with our tax money.

01:02:24.000 They take our money and send a few cents of it back with controls.

01:02:27.000 Steamed over a perceived increase in federal usurping of states' rights, Oklahoma House of Representatives told Washington, D.C.

01:02:33.000 to back off.

01:02:34.000 Joint Resolution 1089 passed by an overwhelming 92 to 3 margin.

01:02:40.000 Reasserts Oklahoma's sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the U.S.

01:02:43.000 Constitution, and according to the resolution's own language, is serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates.

01:02:50.000 The Tenth Amendment states, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited to by the states, are reserved to the states, respectively, or to the people.

01:03:00.000 Charles Key, the Republican State Representative who authored the Resolution to the World and Daily.

01:03:04.000 They introduced it because he believes the federal government's overstepping its bounds has put our Constitution in the form of government in danger.

01:03:11.000 And so he's the guy that got it passed 92 to 3.

01:03:14.000 I'd like to know who those 3 are.

01:03:17.000 And, you know, stuff happened with members of the legislature and with the local mayor, where they would say, oh, I don't know anything about a North American union, and then they'd catch them as signatories to it five years ago.

01:03:28.000 So, a lot of that has got Oklahomans up in arms.

01:03:30.000 I wish we had people in our legislature like Charles Key here in Texas, where they're really raping the daylights out of us, the feds are.

01:03:39.000 But Charles Key, thank you so much for coming on with us.

01:03:42.000 Hey, it's good to be with you again, Alex.

01:03:45.000 You know, you've got the floor here for the next 50 minutes.

01:03:47.000 Tell me about the Oklahoma City bombing website, this website, your site, what you're doing, but after you do that, let's get into this resolution and why it's a ray of hope.

01:03:58.000 Well, you know this, and just for some of your listeners to know, I'm in my second tenure in the legislature.

01:04:05.000 I had a previous life in the 80s and 90s in the legislature.

01:04:10.000 And I was out for about eight years, and I didn't really plan on running again, but I did in 2006, and here I am.

01:04:17.000 And the reason he had me on the show today, H.G.R.

01:04:20.000 1089, which is the Tenth Amendment resolution, did pass the House this year.

01:04:25.000 But it's not brand new.

01:04:26.000 It's new to a lot of people, but it actually started back in the very early 90s.

01:04:31.000 There was a state senator from Colorado named Charles Duke.

01:04:35.000 And he started it, he gets credited with starting the Tenth Amendment Resolution, but he and myself back then and a number of other legislators and other state legislatures introduced it in their state legislatures and passed it back then.

01:04:48.000 I passed it in the Oklahoma House back in 1994.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, let's be clear, you guys passed that and said the UN's not coming in here, we're not putting up with land grabs, and boom!

01:04:57.000 A little bombing happened to teach you to love the feds.

01:05:00.000 Interesting times back then, and I'd love to take credit for it this time this year, but it does have a history that goes back into the 90s.

01:05:09.000 But it's something we definitely, we must get out there and get every state to pass this same resolution.

01:05:16.000 And I tell you, I've got a lot of legislators that are contacting me and saying they want to do the same thing in their legislature this next year.

01:05:23.000 I've even got some people down there in Texas.

01:05:27.000 Wow, now I didn't know that.

01:05:29.000 I don't want to put you on the spot, but do you have in front of you who they are?

01:05:33.000 I have their approval to talk about it on a public broadcast, so just out of deference to them, I think it would probably be better if I didn't mention their names, but I guarantee you there's some real interest in the Texas Legislature.

01:05:44.000 Gotcha, we want to sneak up on them, that makes sense.

01:05:47.000 Tell folks, I've got it here in front of me, but tell them where they can find the resolution to try to give it to their legislatures, and tell us what's in the resolution, why it's so important.

01:05:56.000 Well, first of all, they could email me at charles.key at okhouse.gov and request a copy.

01:06:05.000 I would be glad to send it to them.

01:06:06.000 Or they can go to the Oklahoma House of Representatives website that's real easy to find and it's a very user-friendly website and just look up HJR1089 and you can download your own copy of it.

01:06:22.000 Tell us about some of the Pun intended, key areas of the legislation.

01:06:28.000 Well, you know, you pretty much described it in the opening.

01:06:30.000 It just simply reiterates what the Tenth Amendment says and says federal government, get back into your proper role and stop getting into areas that you have no legal authority to be into.

01:06:40.000 And my gosh, the list, you know, we don't have enough time in an hour.

01:06:43.000 We'd have to spend all day long talking about what the federal government's done and venturing into areas they have no legal authority to be into.

01:06:49.000 But go over some of the most egregious and why your state's upset.

01:06:53.000 Well, you've got the violations of privacy, the Fourth Amendment, because of bills like the Patriot Act and all the other ones that we've already forgot the names of them, in which they've tried and they have, I like to say, tried to restrict our rights.

01:07:09.000 Of course, they have.

01:07:11.000 But I happen to be one that I don't believe in saying, well, they got us again.

01:07:17.000 They've eliminated another amendment.

01:07:20.000 I think the Supreme Law of the Land is just that.

01:07:23.000 It's the Supreme Law of the Land.

01:07:25.000 It's still there.

01:07:25.000 I agree.

01:07:26.000 Just because they're criminal doesn't mean I'm still not a free human being.

01:07:29.000 Yeah, just because they passed some bill doesn't mean all of a sudden they superseded it or something.

01:07:33.000 They got rid of it.

01:07:34.000 But, you know, you've got privacy, you've got surveillance, you've got ventures into the area of education.

01:07:42.000 You know, they're telling people what to do and how to educate their kids from Washington, D.C., tying funds to it to try to, you know... And all the problems started when the feds got involved.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, it just gets worse.

01:07:53.000 It doesn't get better.

01:07:57.000 You know, they had a bill this last year that gave a lot of money to hire more law enforcement officers.

01:08:04.000 They don't have any right to be doing that.

01:08:06.000 It's not their role, their right to be in that particular area.

01:08:09.000 Well, I hear people all the time on talk radio, even so-called conservatives, say, but it's free money!

01:08:15.000 No!

01:08:16.000 In fact, from what I've seen, federal money is the most, even if you agree with the programs, which we don't, I mean, it is the most wasteful.

01:08:22.000 It's our money!

01:08:25.000 Yeah, you know what?

01:08:25.000 There was an idea that came up back in those early and middle 90s when some of us back then were looking at what we could do to thwart the activity of the federal government in unconstitutional areas.

01:08:39.000 And this idea came up, if anybody's listening out there that might want to pass this on to a legislator or some of the legislators that are listening to this program or people running for office, you know, it is our money.

01:08:51.000 And they're taking it and directing it back to the states with kind of a carrot-stick approach.

01:08:57.000 You do this, we'll give you this money, then once you get hooked into the deal, then they'll take the money away unless you keep doing it and do more.

01:09:03.000 Yeah, unfunded mandates.

01:09:04.000 Yeah, what if the states said, okay, look, we're going to start requiring our people within the state to send certain federal taxes to us through the state treasury, and then we'll pass it on up to the federal government.

01:09:19.000 And this is a real good money-generating, revenue-generating idea, by the way.

01:09:24.000 The states would have some short-term interest they'd make on that money as it floated through.

01:09:28.000 And that might really help some states out.

01:09:31.000 But it would also allow the states to say to the federal government, when they start pushing more unfunded mandates and unconstitutional acts, to say, well, maybe we won't send that money back up to you, we'll just keep it.

01:09:44.000 Maybe the states need to start doing something like that. 0.98

01:09:47.000 Because it is our money.

01:09:50.000 Well, it certainly is.

01:09:52.000 What are some other areas that you think are important people know about dealing with the declaration?

01:10:01.000 Well, you know, the big issues out there, well, the big issues that have been talked about for several years, I think it's gotten prominent again this time around because of the Ron Paul campaign.

01:10:12.000 Is the money issue, the authority given to the Federal Reserve, private Federal Reserve Bank, to have control over just about every aspect of our lives having to do with finances and money.

01:10:23.000 That is proving, and finally proving, to be a really big problem.

01:10:27.000 They don't have the authority to do that.

01:10:29.000 It's unconstitutional.

01:10:31.000 And that needs to be addressed.

01:10:32.000 Well, now they're saying the Federal Reserve's issued so much currency and liquidity that the dollar's going to be like toilet paper.

01:10:38.000 Yeah, well, it's...

01:10:40.000 You know, it seems to be heading that way.

01:10:42.000 I mean, it's pretty bad right now.

01:10:43.000 What amazes me and really makes me mad is a lot of these talking head pundits and people in both parties that make buckoos of money and have been living off the system for a long time, they don't have a clue how tough it is for the average middle and lower income person out here trying to get by.

01:10:59.000 And they think everybody's still making a couple hundred thousand or more dollars a year and everything's real rosy.

01:11:06.000 But the country is hurting right now.

01:11:08.000 And it can get a lot worse than it might, but that needs to be fixed.

01:11:12.000 And the answer is not to print more dollars up and throw a few coins back towards the folks with some type of a tax rebate or something.

01:11:21.000 But that issue needs to be addressed.

01:11:22.000 We've also got the problem of just taxation itself.

01:11:25.000 The federal income tax is a bad tax.

01:11:29.000 It's not a legal tax.

01:11:32.000 The Supreme Court, once in our history at least, has ruled that it was not constitutional.

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01:12:00.000 You know, it's just hard to believe that a state would have to pass a resolution saying the state of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.

01:12:15.000 And you serve notice and demand of the federal government as our agent to cease and desist effective immediately mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

01:12:24.000 Like federalizing local police I mean, folks, the government is out of control.

01:12:29.000 The federal government, it's like a neighbor who's in your house telling you what to do.

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01:12:35.000 We'll be right back with State Rep.

01:12:36.000 Charles Key, a great guy.

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01:12:49.000 In demand of the federal government, as our agent, the cease and desist effective immediately mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers, like federalizing local police.

01:13:00.000 I mean, folks, the government is out of control.

01:13:02.000 The federal government, it's like a neighbor who's in your house telling you what to do.

01:13:06.000 I mean, it is out of control.

01:13:08.000 And we'll be right back with State Rep.

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01:16:59.000 Charles Key is our guest.

01:17:00.000 Talk about courage.

01:17:02.000 From day one when there was the questions coming out with the Oklahoma City bombing, which was an inside job from the beginning, He was there questioning, exposing, speaking out.

01:17:15.000 And now in hindsight, talking 12 years later or more, it's just all coming out.

01:17:23.000 It is all coming out in a big way.

01:17:25.000 So I want to shift gears into that for the rest of the interview with our guest today and any other subjects he wants to talk about.

01:17:31.000 But as a state rep, for all our listeners in Oklahoma, please support him.

01:17:36.000 I mean, I know he was happy to be out of politics.

01:17:38.000 Why did you get back in?

01:17:41.000 Well, it was just kind of circumstantial.

01:17:42.000 There were some people that asked me to run when the guy that was in there just chose not to run, somewhat at the last minute.

01:17:53.000 That was just that simple.

01:17:54.000 There was another guy running that some of them didn't think he was a conservative, and they said, we want a conservative in there, and we've got to have a conservative, and we want you to run.

01:18:03.000 So I thought about it, prayed about it, and boom, did it.

01:18:06.000 And they did the same thing they did to me before.

01:18:08.000 They just blew me out of the water about the Oklahoma City bombing, but we prevailed and God gave us a victory, so that's just it.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, they attack you when most Oklahomans I talk to know what's going on. 0.99

01:18:22.000 Did that backfire on them that the story's gotten out now and that made your competitors look stupid? 1.00

01:18:28.000 Yeah, I think it is. 0.98

01:18:29.000 I think, you know, it's a lot like, this Oklahoma City bombing case is a lot like JFK and a lot of other cases that we can enumerate.

01:18:36.000 You talk about it on your program many times.

01:18:38.000 You know, as time goes by, more of the truth comes out.

01:18:41.000 People have time.

01:18:42.000 The emotional part of it, you know, subsides.

01:18:44.000 It goes away.

01:18:45.000 People have a chance to hear more, think more, and get more facts.

01:18:49.000 And they realize that there was a cover-up.

01:18:52.000 And that's what's happened in the Oklahoma City bombing case.

01:18:56.000 I guess you probably had Jesse Trinidou on your program.

01:18:58.000 Oh, yes.

01:18:59.000 And that guy, talk about a bulldog and a courageous man.

01:19:04.000 He has continued to keep this thing alive and he has helped Continue to verify what all of us were saying back in the beginning.

01:19:13.000 Well, that's it.

01:19:14.000 Ten, eleven years ago, everything you said has turned out, your angle on it has turned out to be right.

01:19:19.000 In fact, break down the Jesse Trinidou case for those that may have forgotten, because that was probably six, eight months ago we were really talking about this.

01:19:25.000 I mean, break down all the new things that have been confirmed.

01:19:28.000 Well, it's been hard for me to keep on top of it like I did the bombing case when I was involved in that, but I can hit the highlights.

01:19:35.000 Jesse Trinidou is an attorney up in the Salt Lake City area.

01:19:38.000 He had a brother who died in Oklahoma City in August of 95.

01:19:43.000 The bombing happened in April.

01:19:45.000 And his brother died in a federal transfer center that happened to be in my district, by the way, right next to the airport.

01:19:51.000 And when the family realized that he didn't commit suicide like the Bureau of Prisons claimed, so they filed a lawsuit.

01:20:00.000 As time went by and they were able to force Documents out of the government, through the Freedom of Information Act, they found out that it was related to the Oklahoma City bombing somehow.

01:20:10.000 What happened was some federal investigators, FBI and who knows who else, thought that he was a suspect in the Oklahoma City bombing case and they beat him to death, literally.

01:20:21.000 And so the family filed suit, they eventually won that suit, and the Trinidad and the family have not let go. 0.99

01:20:30.000 Become impassioned, not just... Let me just add, he also had electrical burns all over him.

01:20:35.000 Yeah.

01:20:35.000 Go ahead.

01:20:36.000 And they're impassioned about this, not just because they wanted to bring justice to what really happened in regards to their brother and son's murder, but also because they found out how terribly screwed up this Oklahoma City bombing case was, and how the truth was really being covered up.

01:20:56.000 So Jesse Trinidou, and you know, we should also give kudos to a federal judge up in the Salt Lake area, I think his last name is Kimball, has not let the Justice Department and the FBI off the hook easy.

01:21:08.000 It made them have to live under the laws that the rest of us have to live under.

01:21:12.000 And he said things like, this is a cover-up.

01:21:14.000 I mean, it's amazing to actually have a good federal judge.

01:21:18.000 Yeah, you know, even the Judge Mache that presided over McVeigh and Nichols' trials, Make a couple of comments like that back early on so there's no question about that it was a major cover-up and it was there were other people involved and they had a level at minimum a level of prior knowledge that something was going to happen and you know there were government informants inside the circle or these circles of individuals that were You know, going to carry this out, or they were participating in it.

01:21:49.000 And, you know, the list just goes on.

01:21:50.000 But how could you be criticized when you had grand jurors and people coming to you saying there's other bombers and I'm being told to shut up?

01:21:57.000 I mean, that's your job as a state rep to speak out.

01:22:02.000 Well, you know, there are folks that they want to go along.

01:22:06.000 They're more interested in climbing up a ladder, whether it's politically or corporately or whatever.

01:22:12.000 And that's what it gets down to.

01:22:13.000 Stay there.

01:22:14.000 I want to run through the basics of what you know about the Oklahoma City bombing and who you think is really behind it and involved.

01:22:21.000 We've got a clearer picture today than we've ever had before, and we'll take calls on the resolution, throwing the feds out, re-declaring state liberty.

01:22:27.000 1-800-259-9231 is the toll-free number to call in.

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01:22:38.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:22:44.000 And that's what it gets down to.

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01:22:47.000 I want to run through the basics of what you know about the Oklahoma City bombing and who you think is really behind it and involved.

01:22:54.000 We've got a clearer picture today than we've ever had before, and we'll take calls on the resolution, throwing the feds out, re-declaring state liberty.

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01:26:09.000 Charles Keyes, our guest.

01:26:11.000 I'm very thankful for his time today.

01:26:12.000 Steve, Greg, John, Charles, many others.

01:26:14.000 We're going to go to your calls here in a few minutes for State Rep Charles Key.

01:26:19.000 When he's done in the Statehouse, we need to send him to Washington.

01:26:22.000 We need some good people.

01:26:24.000 In Washington, there's only Ron Paul and a few others up there, and Republicans and conservatives' names have been destroyed, thanks to Bush, tripling the size of government.

01:26:33.000 Now we're looking at Barack Obama or McCain.

01:26:36.000 Charles, before we get back into Oklahoma City and take calls, sometimes you've got to wonder, I mean, the elites are just running this country into the ground, and I'm just wondering if there's any hope the way things are going.

01:26:48.000 There's hope.

01:26:51.000 I think there's always hope, but I feel the same way.

01:26:54.000 I get discouraged and down, but as long as we, you know, we have a certain amount of freedom, and we still do in this country, but back to the Tenth Amendment, you were talking about the Oklahoma City bombing and how they could attack somebody or criticize them for just asking questions and wanting some truth.

01:27:12.000 Well, look at McCain, Feingold, and a lot of the other things they've done over the past few years to just try and control your ability to speak freely, like on this radio program, because there are those that don't want us to even talk about this.

01:27:24.000 And that's what they do.

01:27:25.000 One of the things they do is they will attack you publicly and call you all kinds of names, you know, and spin off the truth and tell a lot of untruths.

01:27:35.000 And since the Oklahoma City bombing, just look at the legislation that's been passed to restrict what you can say and where you can say it.

01:27:45.000 You know, there's what they call them, speech-free zones.

01:27:48.000 If you get in some of those zones when there's a presidential motorcade or the president's there or some other, A political activity that they don't want any protesters to be around.

01:27:58.000 What do they do?

01:27:59.000 They'll haul you off and throw you in jail.

01:28:01.000 Well look at Nancy Pelosi. 0.99

01:28:02.000 The first thing they did after, and I'll just say it, after the Clintons bombed OKC, after the Feds did, the first thing they did was say, we need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and reduce free speech on talk radio.

01:28:13.000 They blamed talk radio.

01:28:15.000 And now Pelosi says she wants to bring that back.

01:28:18.000 Yeah.

01:28:20.000 And I think, you know, I hear more and more people, what's been interesting in my experience coming back into the legislative, political realm this last couple of years, is when I went out and knocked doors in 06, running for this seat again, it was very, very surprising to me and encouraging, very encouraging, how many people going door to door, and these are Republicans, are the only doors I knocked, that are very aware of what's going on in this country.

01:28:44.000 There's a great awakening going on.

01:28:46.000 See, that's what I was going to ask you next.

01:28:48.000 Whereas things are getting darkest before the dawn, I'm saying they're bad, I'm finding the same thing that people finally are knowing, they're finally listening.

01:28:56.000 Go ahead and finish your story.

01:28:57.000 Tell me what happened when you knocked on those doors.

01:29:00.000 People are aware they're getting their information from someplace other than the nightly news and the newspaper, and they're starting to find out that they're getting lied to, and there's something really rotten in Denmark, so to speak.

01:29:12.000 And they're waking up.

01:29:14.000 A lot of this is pretty obvious stuff.

01:29:18.000 The immigration problems like we have, and you've got a government that refuses to do something about it. 0.99

01:29:24.000 Or so many of them.

01:29:25.000 Oh, hey, I've got news articles where the police admit that an illegal can be drunk and they don't arrest them, but they arrest me!

01:29:32.000 Now they should arrest me, but they won't arrest them!

01:29:34.000 I mean, they're like super class!

01:29:36.000 They arrest congressmen who are drunk!

01:29:39.000 Well, you know, there's so many people, and this is a part of the answer to what happened in the Oklahoma City case.

01:29:44.000 They came after me and other cases that other people have been involved in.

01:29:48.000 There's always a section of people, and I talked about this on your program years ago, there's always a percentage of the people, when they hear things like a cover-up about Oklahoma City or anything else, they do not want to hear it.

01:29:59.000 It puts so much fear into them, and their reaction is they want to kill the messenger.

01:30:05.000 And they'll go along, they'll be cheerleaders and accomplices with those who attack the messenger.

01:30:12.000 And that's how they accomplish what they accomplish, but even those people will wake up as time goes on.

01:30:18.000 Because they'll come out of their denial because after a while they'll see, and this is what I think I'm seeing today, more people starting to wake up and realize, hey, there really is something to X, you know, or what he said.

01:30:30.000 Well, I agree with you because what I run into is there's a certain amount of people who want to live in denial and say everything's fine no matter what's going on.

01:30:36.000 They say, we're being negative.

01:30:38.000 No, no, no.

01:30:38.000 We're trying to protect what's good by admitting what's bad.

01:30:42.000 You know, it's like if I have a fly in my soup, I don't say, oh, I'm not going to be negative and eat it.

01:30:46.000 I take the fly out.

01:30:48.000 Well, one of our investigators used this analogy, and I love it.

01:30:51.000 I've used it a lot of times back when we were investigating the bombing.

01:30:54.000 He was a retired officer in the Marine Corps, a good guy, and he said, you know, he said, Charles, I bet it's like, it's like a ship.

01:31:02.000 He says, most people don't know this.

01:31:03.000 When a ship starts taking on water in the ocean, you think it would just, you know, you know, go on over.

01:31:09.000 But he said it actually gets to be about 17 degrees.

01:31:12.000 That's what he said, I'm assuming it's true, or accurate.

01:31:15.000 It gets to about 17 degrees and it just flops on over.

01:31:19.000 And he said that's how this public opinion and things will happen some day.

01:31:22.000 It'll just keep mounting and mounting until all of a sudden the people will wake up.

01:31:27.000 No, I agree.

01:31:28.000 And that's what they're afraid of.

01:31:29.000 It's a flashpoint.

01:31:30.000 It's a flashpoint.

01:31:32.000 It happens in jumps.

01:31:34.000 And those that we recognize that are our enemies, that are enemies of a constitutional form of government, They know that, and they're afraid of it.

01:31:45.000 And we need to use that to our advantage.

01:31:47.000 I agree.

01:31:48.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

01:31:49.000 Globalists just five years ago, six years ago, still were arrogant. 1.00

01:31:52.000 I look at their body language now.

01:31:53.000 I go to events.

01:31:55.000 They look freaked out, but I don't think it's even freaked out about us as much as it is a lot of economists I talk to think they've lost control, that they have just totally screwed everything up.

01:32:06.000 Yeah, that's another thing that wakes people up, unfortunately, because we've heard that all of our lives, because it's true that there's a lot of people that never will wake up until their back pocket, their pocketbook gets hit hard enough and the people are getting hit hard.

01:32:19.000 So a lot of them are going to wake up for that reason.

01:32:20.000 It's unfortunate.

01:32:22.000 But if it works for us, that's fine.

01:32:24.000 We need everything to our advantage that we can get.

01:32:27.000 Yeah, but it looks like their pocketbook, if they think this is bad, they ain't seen nothing yet, as they say.

01:32:32.000 I mean, if this continues, it's going to be unbelievable.

01:32:36.000 Let's talk to Steve in Colorado.

01:32:38.000 You're on the air with Charles Key, state rep.

01:32:41.000 Hello there, Alex.

01:32:42.000 Hi.

01:32:43.000 Hello, Representative Key.

01:32:45.000 I think one of the main reasons why people want to shoot the messenger so much is because they don't want to actually have to believe that their government is degraded into such a despicable situation.

01:32:57.000 And then also another reason is because they might actually have to do something with the knowledge that they found out.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:33:04.000 But then they might find out how bad it's going to be if they don't do something.

01:33:08.000 Then they really would do something.

01:33:10.000 Well, that's an interesting point, too.

01:33:12.000 My questions were, I had heard the story, I guess, about helicopters taking some of the federal people off the roof of the Murrah Building.

01:33:26.000 Do you know that to be true at all?

01:33:30.000 I mean, prior to the blast?

01:33:33.000 No, never found any truth to that.

01:33:35.000 There were stories that were, you know, hearsay.

01:33:39.000 I mean, you know, nothing we could ever really get into.

01:33:41.000 Why wouldn't they just walk out the front?

01:33:43.000 Well, because they didn't want to alarm anybody.

01:33:45.000 From what I understand, they went out of rooftop exit.

01:33:48.000 But a helicopter wouldn't alarm people?

01:33:51.000 Well, that's just what I had heard.

01:33:53.000 I didn't know for sure whether that was true.

01:33:57.000 Yeah, we don't know that.

01:33:59.000 I don't know if there's any way to prove that.

01:34:01.000 We worked real hard at that and so many other clues.

01:34:05.000 By the way, operative word, bombings.

01:34:06.000 Thank you, Steve.

01:34:07.000 We know there were multiple bombs.

01:34:08.000 that said they saw helicopters before the bombing and immediately after the bombs went off.

01:34:13.000 But there again, you know, proving it and proving that there's anything connected to the bombing is another thing.

01:34:19.000 By the way, operative word bombings.

01:34:21.000 Thank you, Steve.

01:34:22.000 We know that there were multiple bombs.

01:34:24.000 Can you explain how you can say that?

01:34:26.000 Well, there's just too many experts.

01:34:29.000 You know, this is a subject that is difficult for most people because they don't understand all this, and I was one of those.

01:34:36.000 I learned a lot, learned a lot more than I ever would have, you know, if I hadn't been involved in the bombing.

01:34:41.000 But you've got experts, people that have done this all their lives, like General Partin and many others.

01:34:46.000 And we've got some of those in that report that we published that come out and analyze, and this is what they do for a living.

01:34:51.000 They've done it all their lives in the military, in commercial application.

01:34:56.000 They analyze terrorist bombs, bombings.

01:34:59.000 They analyze tests that they do, like at Eglin Air Force Base that's been talked about a lot.

01:35:05.000 And they know how these things work and what will and won't happen.

01:35:09.000 And they can analyze a case like this and say, well, here's what happened.

01:35:14.000 Here's how many bombs were used, and here's where they were placed, etc., etc.

01:35:18.000 The experts have looked at it, analyzed it, and concluded that multiple bombs were used.

01:35:23.000 Am I still on?

01:35:31.000 Yes, go ahead and continue.

01:35:34.000 Okay.

01:35:35.000 So that's how we know about the number of bombs, people like General Parton and others.

01:35:43.000 I'm sorry, I was sitting here messing with my board.

01:35:47.000 Right.

01:35:48.000 Representative Key.

01:35:50.000 Going back to the BATF, what we do know is they showed up in their bomb gear seconds after the blast, and we're telling EMTs and people that showed up to dress wounds and say that they'd seen them up in the higher floors.

01:36:04.000 What do you think was behind that?

01:36:07.000 Well, it's pretty interesting.

01:36:08.000 You know, you had an AP reporter that's been around for a long time, and he gave that testimony on videotape.

01:36:17.000 That he was immediately on the scene, and he said immediately these ATF officials showed up with the black gear, you know, all decked out in their black SWAT team type gear, like they were poised, ready for this to happen.

01:36:33.000 And that's where that information comes from.

01:36:36.000 Also, related to that is the Oklahoma City Fire Department getting some call the Friday before the Wednesday bombing about Uh, them being in a higher prepared state for something that may be developing over the next several days.

01:36:51.000 And then didn't we also have the BATF out at a base testing, blowing up trucks?

01:36:56.000 Yeah, out in New Mexico we're blowing up trucks with AMFO bombs.

01:37:01.000 Very interesting also, to say the least.

01:37:05.000 And this is in the months before, and of course you're not just saying the experts say multiple bombs, or how does a truck bomb not blow the pillars out right in front of the pillars the same size way back in the back of the building, and then why were chunks of it blown across the street, and why were there blast points on the rebar?

01:37:21.000 I mean, all of that.

01:37:22.000 You also have the governor coming on, who obviously wasn't involved because he was, you know, Or he wouldn't have been saying this.

01:37:29.000 Yeah, we found multiple bombs, very sophisticated bombs inside.

01:37:32.000 And then the BATF shows up and says, no, that's not what you saw.

01:37:38.000 Yeah.

01:37:38.000 And then you had another bomb expert.

01:37:40.000 I mean, they've got a bunch of them, but you have another terrorism and bomb expert that was on one of the local stations that came in studio just, you know, a few hours after the bombing and was reporting also that, yeah, we've just found out that they found other unexploded bombs that they've taken out of the building.

01:37:54.000 And this is really great because As they take these apart, it's going to help us find out who did it and be able to track them down, hold them accountable, blah, blah, blah.

01:38:03.000 So, you know, just all kinds of information like that.

01:38:06.000 I'll tell you, some of the stuff that Jesse Trinidad, the attorney we were talking about earlier, has been able to force out that further sheds light on this case is the information about Andreas, or otherwise known as Andy Strossmeier, the West German that came over to this country and certainly was here with the knowledge of our government, maybe even officially working for them on some level.

01:38:29.000 But he was certainly knowledgeable about this and was working with McVeigh and other people.

01:38:34.000 And some of the documents that they've been able to pull out over the last two or three or four years confirm that.

01:38:41.000 Oh, yeah, the Southern Poverty Law Center involved.

01:38:45.000 I mean, it's just despicable activities, but they've got to get our guns one way or the other.

01:38:49.000 uh Just amazing, and then the fact that McVeigh was a government operative coming out in affidavits, it's just incredible.

01:38:57.000 Greg in New Jersey, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:39:00.000 Thank you very much, and thank you for putting me on.

01:39:04.000 It's kind of ironic, here in Oklahoma, they're stating their rights to be left alone from the federal government, and here in New Jersey, which is no doubt our Our representative government in the state is the criminal syndicate.

01:39:19.000 We actually have the U.S.

01:39:20.000 Attorney.

01:39:21.000 They're doing the work that New Jersey's attorneys should be doing.

01:39:24.000 We have a thousand attorneys working for the state government in New Jersey, yet they have to use a federal U.S.

01:39:29.000 attorney to prosecute the corrupt politicians that are here.

01:39:32.000 So far, they've nailed, like, the mayor of Newark.

01:39:34.000 Well, that's another problem.

01:39:35.000 They'll never go after locals with the state.

01:39:38.000 It's like it's supposedly the purview of the feds, who are even more corrupt.

01:39:41.000 A very dangerous violation of states' rights.

01:39:45.000 Mr. Key?

01:39:45.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate.

01:39:48.000 I had somebody on another program several days ago.

01:39:51.000 Call me up and talk about civil rights laws and how the feds had to come in and prosecute people for racial types of crimes and what have you.

01:40:02.000 So that's a tough issue.

01:40:03.000 You get down the path, you buy into the federal government having a good role and the only one that can fix, make some wrongs right.

01:40:12.000 And it kind of gets things all screwed up.

01:40:14.000 Well they play that game in Europe where the nations, they won't let the people ever go to those courts, they've got to go to the EU court.

01:40:21.000 And so it's handing your authority away when you have less control over the Feds.

01:40:25.000 Anything else Greg?

01:40:27.000 Well, my question was, do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, where we have to actually ask the U.S.

01:40:33.000 Attorney to get involved?

01:40:34.000 Yeah, I think it's a bad thing, because the feds are even so much more corrupt, and they'll only selectively enforce on who they want.

01:40:40.000 I mean, I think that really is a state matter.

01:40:43.000 Well, the problem is always the people.

01:40:47.000 Holding their government accountable.

01:40:48.000 That's always the problem.

01:40:50.000 Because you could fix these things at the state level if the people would watch their government and hold people accountable and make them fix it.

01:40:57.000 Yeah, here's an example.

01:40:58.000 Who do you go to with the Feds engaged in terrorism?

01:41:01.000 I mean, they admit they staged the USS Liberty, they staged the Gulf of Tonkin, a bunch of other events.

01:41:06.000 Who do we go to about our own government staging things?

01:41:08.000 I mean, going to the Feds, you know, whoever's got more power almost always is going to be more corrupt.

01:41:14.000 Yeah, the problem, and another way of stating that, too, is the problem is it assumes that somehow the federal government is more moral or ethical or something.

01:41:23.000 And they're not.

01:41:24.000 Just like Alex is saying, you know, they're just people, and they're corrupt, too, and they're going to use their power for things other than, you know, what's best for all of us.

01:41:33.000 Yeah, let's take another call.

01:41:34.000 Thanks, Greg.

01:41:35.000 John in Fort Worth, Texas.

01:41:36.000 You're on the air with Representative Keith.

01:41:39.000 Hi, thank you for taking my call.

01:41:41.000 I just wanted to ask the Representative, How did, after Oklahoma City, how did the, in general, the majority of people in Oklahoma, did they go along with the status that was given to them, or was there a lot of trepidation in what happened?

01:42:00.000 Well, I think, and I've come to describe it this way, and I think I always probably will, the answer to that kind of question is that people were traumatized all over the country, but especially right here At ground, at the ground central or whatever I'm trying to say, right here where it happened, right here in Oklahoma City.

01:42:22.000 I mean, people were just traumatized by this.

01:42:27.000 They had, you know, it's hard to find somebody that didn't know someone or had a relative that was killed or badly hurt.

01:42:34.000 And then it went on.

01:42:36.000 It didn't just go away after that.

01:42:38.000 It went on for years.

01:42:40.000 And so people got tired of it.

01:42:41.000 They were emotionally just... Sick of it.

01:42:45.000 Wrenched, you know.

01:42:46.000 But I mean, how did they deal with all those newscasts reporting the bombs and then later newscasts saying there were Iraqis involved in all this?

01:42:53.000 I mean, when they call you a kook, would you raise those points?

01:42:58.000 Yeah, and I think most people believed it, but I think it was an emotional thing is why they eventually go along.

01:43:04.000 You know, they kind of go along with the entities, whether it's the newspapers or other politicians that attack the messenger.

01:43:13.000 They go along with them because it's an emotional... Yeah, it's too scary.

01:43:17.000 It's too scary to admit the truth.

01:43:18.000 Thank you, John.

01:43:20.000 Charles in New Hampshire, final caller for Representative Charles Key, coming up after This quick break.

01:43:28.000 So we've got a final segment coming up straight ahead.

01:43:33.000 We've got a lot of other callers, but we'll see how many we can get in here.

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01:47:15.000 Got loaded phone lines here, but all I have time to take is Charles and New Hampshire.

01:47:19.000 Before we do that, Charles Key, any websites, anything you think people should check into or learn more from?

01:47:26.000 Well, I really don't have anything prepared to pass on, Alex.

01:47:30.000 Well, I just want to thank you for your tireless defense of the Republic, and I just wish we had more people like you in public service.

01:47:37.000 Well, I appreciate that very much.

01:47:38.000 Let's take a final call.

01:47:40.000 Charles in New Hampshire, go ahead.

01:47:42.000 Yeah, thank you very much for taking my call.

01:47:45.000 Representative Key, it's just a wonderful surprise and pleasure to know that you're back on the Hill, 47 years of age, and been around, you know, paying attention to these things for quite some time, and I remember uh... you sticking out back in and the oklahoma bombing as being one of the the few if not the only one that was uh... courageous enough to uh... really look into this thing And I just can't say how happy I am that you're back, along with Representative Paul.

01:48:11.000 My inquiry here specifically, because logically and common sense-wise, I remember when they were able to find out about the Ryder truck with supposedly an unscathed VIN number that just happened to miraculously survive this.

01:48:28.000 Huge blast in the rider truck.

01:48:30.000 It reminds me of 19 box cutters at 9-11 that somehow got through the metal detectors and no one has been able to bring out a box cutter, at least the metal part where it cuts.

01:48:43.000 And what I understand, in some of the pictures that I've seen, I'm still waiting to see a hole in the ground.

01:48:48.000 And wasn't the Murray Building a nuclear fallout shelter?

01:48:52.000 It's just certain things, common sense, don't add up.

01:48:55.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

01:48:57.000 Let me get a final comment from Charles Key on that.

01:49:01.000 Well, you know, there's been a lot of time passed by, so I'm not sure I recall anything like that, but it did have some lower levels in it, and it had a lower Level parking garage that actually was, I think, two levels deep below the ground level.

01:49:16.000 Well, I remember the VIN number saying off the car.

01:49:19.000 Yeah, the VIN number.

01:49:20.000 I mean, there's a lot of odd things that happen in the Oklahoma City case, and that may be some real good, you know, evidence.

01:49:26.000 And not that that's not worthy of talking about it when I make my next comment, but the fact is, you know, there's a wealth of information that proves that there were other people involved that our Justice Department and FBI did not want to go after those people.

01:49:41.000 They intentionally did not.

01:49:42.000 And, you know, to close up with back to the Tenth Amendment and the Constitution, we must hold government accountable at every level.

01:49:50.000 If we don't, things get out of control.

01:49:53.000 And not only do they take more of your money, more of your privacy, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and the list goes on, but things like the Oklahoma City bombing can happen.

01:50:02.000 Absolutely.

01:50:03.000 Charles Key, I really appreciate you spending time with us.

01:50:06.000 I want to get you back up in the near future if you'll give us the time.

01:50:09.000 Thank you for the time.

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