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00:00:28.000 On September 11, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to Ground Zero.

00:00:35.000 And we knew what to do.

00:00:37.000 Or at least we thought we did.

00:00:39.000 Truth Rising is a breakthrough 9-11 film that finally gives first responders a platform to tell their story.

00:00:46.000 Whitman, EPA director on the 18th, made a statement.

00:00:52.000 That the air was safe to breathe.

00:00:55.000 This film follows the growing momentum of 9-11 truth as brave souls throughout the world take action against their global... We are live at PrisonPlanet.tv for viewers.

00:01:11.000 We'll keep rolling for Chuck Baldwin and then Dr. Paul Chris Roberts.

00:01:16.000 Burmess is going to be in studio for a segment or so, a BBC hit piece.

00:01:20.000 Edit Silverstein comments in Dirty Tricks Scam.

00:01:24.000 We'll put that article up on screen for everybody.

00:01:27.000 And this is only one facet of it.

00:01:30.000 Watching this last night, every 30 seconds had total disinfo, total lies, total fraud.

00:01:36.000 There's no way this guy couldn't know what he was doing.

00:01:39.000 There's no way making a film about Building 7 that you couldn't know what it was.

00:01:44.000 Unless the person is just an abject denial, you know, to the level of some guy walks in and his wife is in bed.

00:01:51.000 It's hypothetical.

00:01:52.000 With another man in the act, with no sheets over him, and he sees the full, you know, penetration, I hate to get graphic here, and just says, you know what?

00:02:02.000 That's not sex! 1.00

00:02:03.000 Hello, honey! 0.97

00:02:04.000 And they're there going after it, and he just walks by and, you know, gets a glass of water out of the refrigerator by the bed and, you know, just says, well, honey, I'll see you in a little while, I'm going out to play golf.

00:02:14.000 I mean, it's just getting to the point where it's mind-blowing.

00:02:17.000 Back to... I'm sorry for that analogy.

00:02:19.000 I'm out of control and I apologize deeply.

00:02:22.000 And I will not do it again.

00:02:23.000 Paul Davis, one of the chief organizers taking action.

00:02:28.000 Ron Paul meet up here in Austin.

00:02:29.000 I can't tell you how excited I am.

00:02:31.000 To see the fact that at universities and in major cities and small towns, the meet-up groups, in some cases with thousands of members, are just taking to the streets for 9-11 truth, fighting the North American Union, fighting against land grabs, fighting against attacks on free speech.

00:02:47.000 I mean, this is exciting, not just letting this huge grassroots movement dissipate, but actually in some areas growing right now.

00:02:55.000 And yes, I'd seen that the police department a few days ago said, look, we've got concerns, we don't like this.

00:03:02.000 Again, go to the police and say, come on, shake yourself, splash some water on your face.

00:03:07.000 You know, it's in the name of goodness.

00:03:11.000 Now they want to put Toyota and Ford, say, by 2011, all cars will have breathalyzers?

00:03:17.000 And then you'll get a false alarm and they call the police on you and they come via the cell phone that's built into your OnStar type system.

00:03:24.000 I mean, this is Big Brother.

00:03:26.000 This is not about stopping drinking or drunk driving.

00:03:29.000 I mean, again, the illegal aliens are above the law and they don't get arrested for drunk driving.

00:03:33.000 Tell us, again, for those that don't know, the Austin Police Department doesn't like this.

00:03:37.000 And this is nationwide.

00:03:38.000 The feds are doing this grant to get you used to guys in uniforms carrying out medical procedures on you.

00:03:44.000 This is getting you ready for forced inoculations. 0.99

00:03:46.000 Go ahead.

00:03:47.000 Yeah, here in the KXAN article, it talks about it, that the Austin Police Association has concerns about it, issues and concerns.

00:03:58.000 Of course, it says they're not ready to take a position on the issue.

00:04:02.000 But, you know, civil rights groups are speaking out about this.

00:04:06.000 There's even officers within the police department that are like, whoa, man.

00:04:10.000 So it's coming from every side on this.

00:04:12.000 I mean, this is just crazy.

00:04:15.000 Well it certainly is and I hope a lot of people come out there tonight at six o'clock and of course the police will babble for thirty minutes and then take questions and the community leaders will have to sit up there and drone and try to keep their slaves in line but it'll finally be the time for the slaves to be able to speak to the god men and just let the god men know they're helping destroy the republic and that they better not be a part of this criminal operation.

00:04:39.000 Again, give out the address to the Ron Paul Meetup Group here in Austin.

00:04:43.000 It is ronpaul.meetup.com with the board slash 14.

00:04:48.000 Number 14.

00:04:50.000 Good to have you on Paul, appreciate it.

00:04:52.000 Call tomorrow, or let me get you on for 5-10 minutes tomorrow to give us a report on what happened.

00:04:58.000 I'll do it brother.

00:05:00.000 Thanks a lot, Paul.

00:05:01.000 Okay, again we have Chuck Baldwin, presidential candidate for the Constitution Party, coming up.

00:05:07.000 We will also ask him about being a pastor, being approached by the Feds to help with the FEMA Roundup plans.

00:05:13.000 You know, he talked about that too before that was in the news.

00:05:15.000 Now that's in the news, I'm going to bring that up to Chuck Baldwin as well.

00:05:19.000 And then Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

00:05:21.000 For the rest of the hour, I want to talk 9-11.

00:05:23.000 And before we get into the BBC's ridiculous, falling-flat-on-their-face story, Jason, Truth Rising is out.

00:05:31.000 And I want everyone to get it.

00:05:32.000 The DVD is out, ladies and gentlemen.

00:05:36.000 It is an absolute must-see.

00:05:39.000 You saw us for months while you've been here working, finishing the film.

00:05:44.000 I want you, in your own words, because I know you're a big fan of it behind the scenes, to describe what this film covers.

00:05:49.000 Because it isn't just about 9-11 truth.

00:05:51.000 It isn't just about the police state.

00:05:52.000 It isn't just about how the government stage the attacks.

00:05:55.000 I mean, it's more than that.

00:05:57.000 It shows a revolution against tyranny.

00:06:00.000 It shows how we're being demonized.

00:06:02.000 I mean, this is really a testament to who we are, to also protect the 9-11 truth movement, and to basically set bushfires in the minds of men, as Thomas Jefferson said.

00:06:12.000 Berman, it's your take on it.

00:06:13.000 Yeah man, it shows the power of one person and then us grouping together and going against that which some seem to think is impossible, but it's not.

00:06:21.000 These are human beings that we're confronting.

00:06:23.000 It shows that no matter what echelon of power you're at in government or media, you too can be brought to justice.

00:06:29.000 And it just shows me Hope for our next generation as Luke Rudowsky, yourself, We Are Change Colorado, Minnesota, Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth, all go after these guys, man.

00:06:42.000 It's just so heartening to see them being called on their lies.

00:06:46.000 I mean, Willie Brown being confronted about his San Francisco Chronicle early warning article.

00:06:51.000 For instance, Gary Hart being confronted on his New World Order comments.

00:06:55.000 I mean, this film is huge, and it really, like I said, I hope the sequel is Truth Revolution, and we even take it a step further, Alex, and I know we can.

00:07:04.000 This movie really, I mean, it shows how the cops want to set us up.

00:07:07.000 It shows them actually trying to say that Luke is a terrorist just to get him to stop using his free speech.

00:07:13.000 You know, like it says on the tagline there, you know, watch as the global elite tremble before the power of free speech.

00:07:19.000 Because it's true!

00:07:20.000 I mean, they expect us all to be asleep, Alex, and they know damn well, especially with the Secret Service being here today, you know, that we are having an effect.

00:07:28.000 And that they're not untouchable anymore.

00:07:30.000 I mean, how many times has Bill Clinton now been confronted about 9-11?

00:07:33.000 It's unsurmountable.

00:07:35.000 And Bill Clinton wasn't the president when 9-11 happened.

00:07:37.000 That shows that people are also waking up to the false left-right paradigm.

00:07:41.000 It's just amazing, and I think it's so encouraging, and I've seen so many positive reviews.

00:07:46.000 And, you know, the student scholars loved it.

00:07:48.000 They thought it was a great piece.

00:07:49.000 It's really helping the first responders.

00:07:51.000 It shows how the EPA lied about the air quality because these guys lie on so many levels.

00:07:56.000 You know, they're really just out there for power and trying to make a buck.

00:08:00.000 And they will screw us over, Alex.

00:08:02.000 You know, we are sheeple chattel to them.

00:08:05.000 And it's very unfortunate that more people don't realize that.

00:08:09.000 Well, Jason, I also just want to say concerning Truth Rising that I personally have made several trips to New York for free, flown up there, put on events, and helped raise in one event $14,000 for the first responders.

00:08:25.000 And I donated my time, my airline tickets.

00:08:28.000 It cost me just to get my guys up there for four days and pay for all their hotels and pay the crew and everything about $10,000.

00:08:34.000 And then we got out of that $14,000 donated to them.

00:08:36.000 This really is trying We're going to help them and truly tell their story, that's about a third of the film, intermixed with all the information of Inside Job and the police state, and then who we are, the 9-11 Truth Movement, fighting for everybody, because if we allow the globalists to continue to stage events, they're going to win.

00:08:55.000 We have to expose the problem-reaction-solution system, how they stage the events, that is so key, and finally the term Inside Job, false flag, Self-inflicted wound is now in the nomenclature.

00:09:08.000 It's now being used.

00:09:10.000 It's now being understood.

00:09:11.000 We're being attacked by all the big guns, international media, national media.

00:09:15.000 I mean, we really are having a huge effect right now.

00:09:19.000 And so, just for all of our safety, this film needs to be big.

00:09:22.000 So everybody, get it at InfoWars.com or call 888-253-3139 to get your copy of that or Endgame or any of the other films.

00:09:30.000 And please, I want you to get this DVD, folks, that I'm showing you on the TV program right now for PrisonPlanet.TV, folks, and I want you to get this DVD that is so high quality, so well done, and I want you to get it out to everybody.

00:09:43.000 This film needs to be seen in its highest quality from the DVD.

00:09:47.000 We have really good high quality up on PrisonPlanet.TV, but it's still nothing like the DVD.

00:09:52.000 So, get this DVD in your hands and get it out to everybody, because this is a life-and-death situation.

00:09:57.000 They would have already staged more attacks if we hadn't done what we've already done.

00:10:02.000 And I wanted to put all of 9-11 truth in the film.

00:10:05.000 I wanted to put everybody in all the confrontations.

00:10:09.000 A few people have said, hey, we sent you footage, why isn't our confrontation in there?

00:10:14.000 Folks, just watching the hundreds of hours, there's only three of us that worked on this film.

00:10:20.000 I mean, hundreds of hours.

00:10:21.000 That took months and months, and then more would come in as fast as we got it.

00:10:25.000 We appreciate all of you.

00:10:27.000 We appreciate everybody.

00:10:29.000 But again, it isn't just about how you confronted the politicians.

00:10:31.000 It's about exposing what they did.

00:10:33.000 It's about helping the first responders.

00:10:36.000 So I've been a little bit shocked by some people that have said, well, I wanted to be in your film, or why didn't you use my stuff?

00:10:41.000 Look, we're not perfect.

00:10:43.000 We try our best.

00:10:44.000 I wanted to have more extras to have it all in there, but then we ran out of time on that.

00:10:48.000 I mean, we just finished this thing about three weeks ago.

00:10:53.000 Yeah, three weeks ago it went to be printed, it got made, and two and a half weeks later, late last week, we got these in.

00:10:59.000 I mean, we did it by the skin of our nose.

00:11:01.000 We were uploading it last Wednesday and Thursday before it came out on Friday to the PrisonPlanet.tv servers.

00:11:10.000 I mean, folks, we're not God, we're not perfect.

00:11:15.000 I've never had a film this positively received.

00:11:17.000 I mean, usually they're about 90% positive.

00:11:19.000 This has been like 98% positive.

00:11:21.000 But still, people are saying, well, there's not enough about this or not enough about that.

00:11:24.000 Try making a film first.

00:11:26.000 You know, this is not what you... I mean, it's hard, folks.

00:11:29.000 I mean, at least for us.

00:11:30.000 I mean, you may be superhuman, but I do want to say that, you know, the reason I don't want this film to be criticized is it's for the first responders.

00:11:38.000 Jason?

00:11:38.000 And it's the most positive, upbeat film you've ever done, ever.

00:11:41.000 It's a totally different style.

00:11:42.000 I mean, let's face it, the films you make are really heavy material.

00:11:46.000 They're scary stuff.

00:11:47.000 Yeah, very, very dark.

00:11:47.000 Very dark.

00:11:49.000 And some people ask me about that sometimes, and I'm like, are you looking at the actual information?

00:11:53.000 This is dark information.

00:11:54.000 Wake up, it's gotta be scary.

00:11:56.000 But this shows... Yeah, they think putting the info out made it happen, brought it into reality.

00:12:00.000 It's already there.

00:12:02.000 We're trying to show you.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, we're trying to explain to you.

00:12:04.000 Yeah, this is scary.

00:12:05.000 Now, this is what you can do, and this is the film that shows you what you can literally do.

00:12:09.000 You can pick up a camera.

00:12:10.000 You know, they're a couple hundred bucks now at Walmart, and you can be the media.

00:12:14.000 Well, people also second guess how, when a politician ignores them, then they start shouting it.

00:12:19.000 The whole point is taking over a Bill Clinton speech or a Barack Obama speech and having them respond to 9-11 Truth to get headlines so people know there's a social consciousness that's being raised.

00:12:30.000 And I love these armchair quarterbacks that do say, they didn't do it right, I would have done it this way. 0.74

00:12:35.000 Well listen, listen jackass, this is life and death. 0.98

00:12:38.000 You try having cops try to plant bombs on you. 1.00

00:12:41.000 You get up off your butt and you go out and do something. 0.99

00:12:44.000 You can do it your way anytime, any way you want to do it. 0.98

00:12:44.000 Yeah, go ahead. 0.98

00:12:47.000 I mean, I'm just saying this, you know... And by the way, that's not just a challenge to throw it back in your face.

00:12:52.000 I mean, we need you to take action.

00:12:54.000 We need you to do a better job.

00:12:56.000 I bet there's a lot of filmmakers, I know there's a lot of Hollywood directors listening to this show.

00:12:59.000 Hey, let's see you do something.

00:13:01.000 I bet you'll do a better job than me.

00:13:02.000 And you know what?

00:13:03.000 I'll be promoting it.

00:13:04.000 This is life and death for me, folks.

00:13:06.000 This isn't about grandstanding and being a movie director.

00:13:08.000 I'm Alex Jones and people like me.

00:13:10.000 Frankly, I don't want to live out on a ranch somewhere and never see anybody.

00:13:13.000 I don't frankly like people.

00:13:15.000 I don't frankly want to hang around with you.

00:13:16.000 You understand?

00:13:17.000 I don't frankly want you knowing who I am.

00:13:20.000 Well, I'm with you, Alex.

00:13:21.000 You know, I've got a little private area in New York, too, and I like just hanging back.

00:13:24.000 But, again, you know, if you want to beg your murderers to tell you the truth, you're very naive, in my opinion.

00:13:30.000 You know, and that's what I really hate when I see these message boards.

00:13:33.000 Oh, we need to not shout at these people.

00:13:35.000 Well, if they're not going to address us in a civil manner, when we address them in a civil manner and they're not going to be truthful, you're damn right we need to get in their face. 0.90

00:13:41.000 You're damn right we need to yell at them.

00:13:43.000 Well, most of the time we're yelling, it's because citizens and cops are grabbing our hair. 0.97

00:13:49.000 Or stealing our signs, or accusing us of attacking cripples. 0.71

00:13:52.000 It's just insane, Alex. 0.95

00:13:54.000 Insane.

00:13:56.000 Well, you know, it's the old saying of, I complained that I had no shoes until I saw a man who had no feet.

00:14:00.000 Well, the other cliche is, and it's a canard, but it's true, go ahead and walk a mile in our shoes, Bubba.

00:14:06.000 You know, I love all the armchair quarterbacks that gripe about this person, or that person, or this film, or this or that.

00:14:12.000 Hey folks, we're in a life and death situation.

00:14:14.000 I mean, have you noticed we're going into what could be a hardcore depression?

00:14:18.000 With a spoiled, rotten public, it's going to blow up.

00:14:21.000 I mean, have you noticed they're getting ready to attack Iran? 0.97

00:14:23.000 This isn't a game!

00:14:24.000 Okay, the time to end fighting... I mean, I used to even criticize David Icke.

00:14:28.000 You know what?

00:14:28.000 Barry the Hatchet had him on.

00:14:29.000 He said, I was sorry.

00:14:30.000 Because, you know, a lot of what he says is true and good, and I just want to get along with everybody.

00:14:35.000 Our enemy's the New World Order. 0.64

00:14:36.000 We're going to move forward.

00:14:37.000 Absolutely, and he brings people into the picture, no matter, you know, how wacky some of the theories can be at the end.

00:14:42.000 You know, I really enjoy his stuff on frequencies and all that.

00:14:45.000 And I mean, he's dead on about the royal family, he knows about the secret societies, false flag terror.

00:14:49.000 How the news media works.

00:14:50.000 Okay, let's stop there.

00:14:52.000 Jason Bermas.

00:14:54.000 Alright, Jason Burmess is in studio with us and he has had a chance to fully, repeatedly watch the latest BBC hit piece and I had a chance to watch it last night.

00:15:08.000 Every minute or so I had to stop it and was shaking my head, just when I think I can't be amazed.

00:15:14.000 At the disinfo, there's an article up on PrisonPlanet.com right now that only covers, I'd say, 2% of the baloney.

00:15:21.000 And this one article is devastating to them.

00:15:25.000 How they would edit Silverstein out to say, we gave the order to pull it, then they'd cut to somebody saying, the firefighters, and then we watched the building come down.

00:15:32.000 Or they would edit Barry Jennings, or they would, I mean, this thing, they would not show the BBC news clip in full where they're saying, 7 has fallen, it fell in its own footprint.

00:15:45.000 They would just say what she said.

00:15:47.000 I mean, folks, and that's only one facet.

00:15:50.000 In this segment, the next, and then the third segment before our next guest comes on, you've got five pages of notes.

00:15:57.000 Try to quickly go through those, and then at the end, I'm going to comment on it, Jason.

00:16:01.000 Well, let's start with Barry Jennings, first of all.

00:16:03.000 Now, they bring Barry in very, very early, and they totally misrepresent his timeline.

00:16:09.000 For instance, they go with the official version every time.

00:16:12.000 In other words...

00:16:15.000 Barry didn't get there until both planes had hit the World Trade Center.

00:16:18.000 You watch our interview?

00:16:19.000 No, he got there after the first plane hit.

00:16:21.000 He was in the building prior to the second plane hit.

00:16:23.000 But that's important, because they need their lying timeline to say that they evacuated the OEM after the second plane hit the World Trade Center.

00:16:30.000 They also make it look like Barry Jennings was absolutely alone.

00:16:33.000 Now, we know that Michael Hess was with him, and that's the City Corporation Council.

00:16:39.000 Now, they actually even did a reenactment of what he did.

00:16:42.000 And they don't let Barry say when he gets there or how he got up there.

00:16:45.000 They manipulate his statements.

00:16:48.000 On top of that, Alex, when he talks about the explosion on the sixth floor, all they let him say is the landing gave way.

00:16:56.000 In other words, they don't let him talk about the explosion, and then they immediately go to the North Tower just fell.

00:17:02.000 So they don't even let him tell his side of the story.

00:17:04.000 They just say, These are very tight edits.

00:17:10.000 Very tight to distort what's been said and we're video editors.

00:17:13.000 We know when we put out the Barry Jennings it was big long clips with this very distorted.

00:17:18.000 Absolutely and they actually did a reenactment.

00:17:20.000 That was the only part where there was an actual reenactment.

00:17:23.000 So, they gloss over the fact that he's with Michael Hess, they gloss over his timeline, they gloss over the fact that he says that he was in the building when both towers fell on that 8th floor after the explosion, which was an explosion inside the building.

00:17:36.000 That is key.

00:17:36.000 There was an explosion before Tower 1 or 2, the North and South Tower fell, and they all slickly edited that so that you don't get that.

00:17:44.000 Absolutely.

00:17:45.000 Alright, let's move on to other facets of this total hit piece.

00:17:50.000 For instance, they say that Building 7 took a direct hit.

00:17:53.000 Now, they do actually show the video inside Building 7 that we have, where they go up the escalator, but then they cut away and they say that it showed massive damage on the south side of the building.

00:18:04.000 No, it didn't.

00:18:05.000 There were a couple of doors that were blown out.

00:18:07.000 That was it.

00:18:08.000 And they don't, well blown out, not in it, and they don't show the massive damage.

00:18:12.000 No, absolutely, because there is no massive damage.

00:18:14.000 We have the footage.

00:18:15.000 Yes.

00:18:16.000 Another dirty trick that they played is that they said that they had new photographs and they had this photographer there.

00:18:20.000 Now, they don't have the photograph scanned in, so they don't edit.

00:18:23.000 They literally have the guy holding the photograph and they kind of zoom in on it.

00:18:26.000 It's shaky cam.

00:18:28.000 Which makes it even more deceptive.

00:18:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:30.000 Stay there.

00:18:30.000 I want to get to this when we get back, folks.

00:18:32.000 I mean, I think they've completely blown it.

00:18:35.000 I mean, what they've produced will create a thousand times more questions.

00:18:39.000 It's like they wanted to act suspicious and deceptive.

00:18:43.000 It's almost like they're on our side, but we know they're not. 0.88

00:18:45.000 It's just the enemy, that's who they've got, is these quacks, these nobodies. 1.00

00:18:49.000 I mean, these guys, they're charlatans. 0.99

00:18:52.000 We'll be right back with Jason Bermas as we debunk the pathetic debunkers. 0.99

00:18:58.000 It is a big idea. 0.97

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00:21:56.000 I was shaking my head last night physically.

00:22:07.000 Take no chance at all.

00:22:09.000 Just laughing.

00:22:09.000 And I kept pausing it and saying, is this really happening?

00:22:13.000 Is this what they're doing?

00:22:17.000 Editing what Larry Silverstein had to say, editing what Jennings had to say, cutting everything short, distorting.

00:22:26.000 That's why they've lost all credibility.

00:22:28.000 That's why the mainstream media is imploding.

00:22:30.000 That's why Congress has less than a 10% approval rating for the first time in its history.

00:22:36.000 It's over.

00:22:38.000 I mean, this makes the discrediting of the government under Nixon look like child's play.

00:22:44.000 The people know you're murdering criminals.

00:22:47.000 The people know you carried out the attacks. 0.98

00:22:49.000 And your little hitmen, your little hatchetmen, your little media intellectual prostitutes aren't going to get you out of it. 1.00

00:22:58.000 There's nothing you can do. 0.95

00:22:59.000 Burma's continuing with the incredible disinformation The frenzy that we were witnessing.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, so we're talking about this supposed new picture.

00:23:08.000 Now, as they're showing it, and again it's not scanned in.

00:23:11.000 They won't scan it in, it's a shaky... It's a shaky handycam, the guy's holding it and pointing.

00:23:15.000 It does not match up with the famous popular mechanics photo that they, they're the only ones that had with this side of the building heavily damaged.

00:23:22.000 Doesn't match up with it at all.

00:23:23.000 And let's be clear, that building is grey when 7 was brick red.

00:23:28.000 I remember when I first saw that in the magazine, I was standing in the grocery store I heard it was coming out, I went to get one, and I was going, my God, that's a great building!

00:23:37.000 That's the World Financial Center across the street!

00:23:41.000 All I can say is that it definitely didn't match up with this photograph, with the supposed maximum damage and scooping out.

00:23:48.000 Now, let's get to Silverstein for a second.

00:23:50.000 Now, they go over the Pullet comment, but then they edit out the second half where it says, and we watch the building collapse.

00:23:55.000 Now, this is what I thought was interesting.

00:23:57.000 They mentioned that it was to pull the firefighters, right?

00:24:00.000 And they kind of back him up on that, but then they go to Daniel Nigro, and they ask Daniel Nigro if they would have conferred with Larry Silverstein to pull the firefighting operation.

00:24:09.000 He's like, no.

00:24:10.000 He's like, we don't need to take orders from Larry Silverstein to move our firefighters in and out.

00:24:14.000 So they basically debunk the fact that him saying pull the firefighters was real, but then they didn't make it a point.

00:24:20.000 They just kind of moved on.

00:24:21.000 In other words, they didn't stop. 0.64

00:24:22.000 It's kind of like the Australian news is saying it was a plan to kill 200 of our troops.

00:24:22.000 It's a whitewash!

00:24:29.000 The US wanted to nerve gas them and we said no. 0.98

00:24:31.000 And they say it might have been illegal to kill them.

00:24:34.000 But then here in the US and England they did it.

00:24:36.000 But still it kind of just puts it out there like well there was a plan but we didn't do it.

00:24:40.000 Meanwhile there's all these reports where they did do it in other nations.

00:24:43.000 So it's all just kind of a getting it out in the open.

00:24:46.000 Now the important area to all of this is that The official reports admit the firefighters were pulled out early in the morning before the other towers fell.

00:24:57.000 We've got Giuliani admitting that with Peter Jennings and later lying and saying he didn't say it.

00:25:02.000 Then the tapes were later brought out on NBC News.

00:25:05.000 So again, in every case they're lying.

00:25:07.000 Now they're basically coming back in this piece and not getting into the fact that officially the firefighters were pulled before the tower one or two fell, many hours before they claim they pulled them at five o'clock in the afternoon.

00:25:20.000 Absolutely.

00:25:21.000 And let me say this, they actually did show the thermal imagery.

00:25:25.000 Now, they didn't mention molten metal at all.

00:25:26.000 Now, they say five days later that the thermal imagery proved, Alex... How about five weeks?

00:25:31.000 Was it five weeks at the... Well, it was week after week.

00:25:33.000 Well, yeah, no, but I mean the five-day satellite shots, they admitted that that was 747 degrees Celsius.

00:25:39.000 Now, they say 747 degrees Celsius because the normal person hears that, oh, it was thousands of degrees hot in the World Trade Center, but that's Fahrenheit, folks!

00:25:47.000 Okay, so they confuse it there and they gloss over that.

00:25:49.000 They don't talk about molten metal.

00:25:51.000 Then, they say that the upper floors were engulfed in flames, okay, of World Trade Center Building 7.

00:25:58.000 But we have the new NIST report saying they were isolated.

00:26:01.000 I know, again!

00:26:03.000 See, they don't bring the NIST report in until the last 10 minutes of the film.

00:26:06.000 The last 20 is a total debunk love fest, by the way.

00:26:09.000 Yeah, we're cult members.

00:26:10.000 Oh, God.

00:26:11.000 It's a religion, Alex.

00:26:12.000 You know, it's not hardcore scientific fact.

00:26:14.000 Apparently, we worship something.

00:26:16.000 Yeah, we don't have all these physicists and engineers and scientists and underwriting laboratory engineers who were fired for not shutting up.

00:26:23.000 You know, they wanted to be fired for this imaginary religion five years ago.

00:26:26.000 Absolutely.

00:26:27.000 I mean, you know, Kevin Ryan, he and the professors, they all wanted to be fired.

00:26:30.000 Stephen Jones wanted to retire early.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, because of the religion of 9-11. 0.97

00:26:35.000 No, it's their religion!

00:26:36.000 We'll be right back.

00:26:39.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:26:42.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

00:26:44.000 Okay, you got it.

00:26:47.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

00:26:49.000 I've come with a message of information.

00:26:52.000 9-11 was an inside job.

00:26:55.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

00:26:56.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

00:26:57.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

00:27:00.000 was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR.

00:27:04.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

00:27:13.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

00:27:19.000 An inside job?

00:27:21.000 How dare you?

00:27:23.000 I don't know if you want to come back to the show on 9-11.

00:27:27.000 You know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

00:27:30.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

00:27:33.000 And if the government has not told the truth in 5 years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of... Truth Rising.

00:27:39.000 Download the film at PrisonPlanet.tv right now.

00:27:42.000 Or get the DVD at Infowars.com.

00:27:44.000 It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.

00:27:50.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:27:52.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:27:55.000 Big Brother.

00:28:02.000 Mainstream media.

00:28:04.000 Government cover-ups.

00:28:06.000 You want answers?

00:28:08.000 Well, so does he.

00:28:09.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:28:14.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:28:19.000 Jason, you got four minutes and thirty seconds.

00:28:21.000 Start back at the first, run through all the basic points that we detailed, and get into the new ones as quickly as possible.

00:28:27.000 Alright, they edited Barry Jennings statements to seem like he was there after the second plane strike after the building had officially been evacuated and that he was alone and not with Michael Hess.

00:28:36.000 They also tried to say that he did not step over bodies, even though they did play the clip of Dylan playing the clip saying he did step over bodies in that building.

00:28:45.000 On top of that, they showed this photograph very shakily saying that it proved that the building was heavily damaged.

00:28:50.000 It did not match up in any way, shape, or form with the supposed popular mechanics photograph.

00:28:55.000 Okay, on top of all of that, they had to also admit that Routers is the one that put out that press release that Building 7 came down.

00:29:03.000 The official version, by the way.

00:29:05.000 And we asked them for months, and they said we were harassing them.

00:29:08.000 Tell us what news wire you got it off of, because we could tell CNN and BBC both reported the same thing.

00:29:15.000 Somebody false scripted and gave them that, and that's who we have to go after.

00:29:19.000 Absolutely, and they gloss over that fact, too, just like they gloss over the fact that Daniel Nigro admits that Silverstein would have had no input whatsoever in pulling the firefighter.

00:29:27.000 And they also edit down what she had to say that was incredibly suspicious.

00:29:31.000 Yeah, well, of course, we're all conspiracy theorists.

00:29:33.000 It's ruined her life.

00:29:34.000 God forbid we ask questions.

00:29:35.000 Yeah, they personalize it.

00:29:36.000 We're victimizing people.

00:29:38.000 Now, with some of the new stuff, when they actually got into the NIST report, for instance, yeah, NIST admitted that they had no steel from 7 to work with, and it was all a computer model.

00:29:47.000 All right, so how are they able to even hypothesize that this was all due to regular office fires, which is what they're putting out.

00:29:53.000 That was the last ten minutes of the thing.

00:29:55.000 Of course it's going to be that.

00:29:56.000 They went and saw.

00:29:57.000 But underwriting laboratories did real steel models of Tower 1 and 2 and found fires couldn't do it.

00:30:01.000 No, absolutely not.

00:30:02.000 They subjected them to longer and hotter fires and the building models only sagged.

00:30:06.000 Oh, but that's part of our false religion, reading the underwriting laboratories report.

00:30:06.000 And these were massive.

00:30:10.000 Absolutely.

00:30:11.000 Again, they end it with the religion angle, and they have one firefighter.

00:30:15.000 One firefighter.

00:30:16.000 Let's remember, Alex, we've talked to many firefighters.

00:30:19.000 There are a lot of them in our film, from John Schroeder to Craig.

00:30:21.000 The firefighters honk and wave at us, most of them.

00:30:23.000 Yeah, I know.

00:30:25.000 It's unbelievable to me.

00:30:26.000 And this guy says that we're disrespecting them, and he has no idea what's going on.

00:30:29.000 So it's more guilt by association.

00:30:31.000 Meanwhile, we have Bill Doyle, head of the biggest family, saying the majority believe inside job.

00:30:36.000 I've interviewed countless families.

00:30:38.000 All of them, we talked to, believe inside job.

00:30:40.000 But they always say, all the families hate us.

00:30:42.000 They all disagree with us.

00:30:43.000 We hurt the families.

00:30:44.000 Absolutely.

00:30:45.000 Now, I want to say this.

00:30:46.000 They did show a lot of Stephen Jones, and Stephen Jones' research is amazing, folks.

00:30:50.000 He is the guy to go to for controlled demolition.

00:30:53.000 I'll say it again.

00:30:54.000 He's the guy to go to for controlled demolition.

00:30:56.000 He does the real scientific Oh, but the head guys at NIST trying to debunk us, they happen to be the world experts in explosive thermite.

00:31:02.000 Oh, there's only a few dozen, and they're the top experts.

00:31:06.000 Yeah, and Lizzo, of course.

00:31:06.000 Oh, mmm.

00:31:08.000 Actually, he says an interesting line.

00:31:11.000 The guy says, well, you make all the calling cards for someone who could have done this.

00:31:14.000 He's like, yes, I would have been a great terrorist.

00:31:17.000 Unfortunately, I'm not.

00:31:18.000 Unfortunately, you're not?

00:31:20.000 Why would it be unfortunate that you're not a terrorist, Mr. Lizzo?

00:31:23.000 And again, it's Controlled Demolition Incorporated that Did cover up Oklahoma City, did cover up 9-11, but I mean, they're good people.

00:31:32.000 Yeah, it's an absolute cover-up.

00:31:33.000 They had Gene Corley on there too, another OKC cover-up artist and World Trade Center cover-up artist.

00:31:39.000 And every point that Stephen Jones would make, they would debunk in about 20 seconds and not follow it up.

00:31:44.000 Real simply.

00:31:45.000 It's kind of like the popular mechanics would cover some physicist But wouldn't call them an expert.

00:31:50.000 Would cut to some 22-year-old kid in a glistening office going, we debunked it.

00:31:54.000 And they'd go, expert analysis.

00:31:54.000 We're scientists.

00:31:57.000 And then they would cut from some engineer back to the kid going, it's preposterous.

00:32:02.000 Yeah, meanwhile, he used to write sports for his local paper in Pennsylvania.

00:32:05.000 And their editor is the ex-editor of Entertainment Weekly.

00:32:08.000 Think about it, folks.

00:32:10.000 He's not an engineer.

00:32:10.000 Entertainment Weekly.

00:32:12.000 He is an entertainer.

00:32:14.000 We've got reports up on PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com.

00:32:17.000 I want you, because there's even more points there, to get this stuff to Paul.

00:32:21.000 Points you think ought to be made.

00:32:22.000 He's watching it again, doing a whole other piece.

00:32:24.000 I mean, just the part of them editing down Larry Silverstein is devastating.

00:32:28.000 I mean, just the part of them editing her down, editing him down.

00:32:33.000 We're going to put it all up on the web, showing how they edited it to people, and now they've... Talk about digging a hole deeper.

00:32:39.000 I mean, they have literally, literally caught themselves on fire now.

00:32:44.000 I mean, it's gone from suspicious to really bad, Burmus. 1.00

00:32:48.000 And to all you people out there that are YouTube junkies and listeners and put together these short videos, now's the time.

00:32:48.000 Absolutely.

00:32:53.000 Get on it.

00:32:53.000 We need these things.

00:32:54.000 Send them over to Aaron at Infowars.com.

00:32:56.000 Stay there.

00:32:56.000 Help us out.

00:32:56.000 Stay there.

00:32:57.000 We're going to talk behind the scenes.

00:32:58.000 Let me talk to you behind the scenes.

00:33:00.000 Hey John, you got Baldwin ready?

00:33:02.000 They got me on hold.

00:33:03.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:33:03.000 I'm going to keep talking to Burmester in this behind the scenes.

00:33:06.000 Go ahead and finish up any other points you want to make, Burmester.

00:33:08.000 Yeah, I just want to say there are so many points throughout this.

00:33:11.000 I mean, again, they try to discredit the thermite hypothesis.

00:33:14.000 They gloss over the fact that the steel beams evaporated with this one expert that says, oh, this is exactly what I would think.

00:33:21.000 Attention to the no-plainers. 1.00

00:33:23.000 Yes, they end it with the emotional, the firefighters and family members hate us, they go down to Ground Zero, they briefly talk to Luke and another member of We Are Change, but then they zoom right in on that TV fakery logo.

00:33:36.000 They want to throw in every crazy, preposterous theory to try to make us look bad.

00:33:40.000 Which, a couple years ago, they could at least act semi-credible with saying no planes at the towers, but now it's meant with signs saying we did the bombing, and biting noses, and just running around frothing Wildly, blah!

00:33:52.000 You know, always with the news media.

00:33:54.000 I mean, how obvious does it have to get?

00:33:56.000 This is classic COINTELPRO.

00:33:58.000 And it's actually kind of scary, I mean, to have real COINTELPRO on you.

00:34:02.000 And Secret Service running around in the office today.

00:34:04.000 You literally have Secret Service.

00:34:05.000 You have threats at home, and I mean, you know, it's...

00:34:07.000 If people knew half of what went on here, Alex, honestly, I mean, I've only been here a couple months, folks, and this is the real deal.

00:34:14.000 We're a small office, we reach a lot of people, and the government's interested in what we do, Alex.

00:34:19.000 Period.

00:34:20.000 Amen.

00:34:20.000 The Secret Service would not be here otherwise.

00:34:22.000 Cars driving around, photographing people everywhere.

00:34:25.000 I've seen some pretty brash comments on other forums that aren't as big as yours or your website, or sometimes they are as big as yours, and guess what?

00:34:32.000 Secret Service ain't going there.

00:34:34.000 They're coming here.

00:34:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I just need support from people, folks.

00:34:40.000 You need to get Truth Rising.

00:34:41.000 They're scared of it.

00:34:42.000 Get it out to everybody, folks, or your little buddies are going to continue to stage terror attacks and take all your liberties and freedoms.

00:34:49.000 But listen, watching this BBC piece, because I finally watched the whole thing last night.

00:34:52.000 I watched pieces of it.

00:34:54.000 It just blew me away.

00:34:56.000 This is the best they can do.

00:34:58.000 Yeah, well again, they also end it with the expert Richard Clarke just saying he has no authority whatsoever, he's just the counter-terrorism guy for Bush, and he's the one that glossed over the war games.

00:35:07.000 I remember there was like a 2003 interview with him, again, and someone called him out and said, well what about the war games on 9-11?

00:35:14.000 Oh, that sounds like you're talking conspiracy theories to me, and he just hung up on them.

00:35:19.000 Okay.

00:35:19.000 Now it came out later, I mean in USA Today, on ABC News.

00:35:24.000 Of course they were running drills on 9-11 that were hijacking drills.

00:35:27.000 And they just so happened to be running drills of the exact bus, exact trains being bombed at the exact same time.

00:35:32.000 And we had an actuary done.

00:35:35.000 It was one out of 43 Tretter Gilliam.

00:35:37.000 And that's more than all the grains of sand billions of times.

00:35:40.000 The guy who admits to it, because he's not in on the plot, Peter Power, a visor consultant, he admits to it twice, once on Sky News and once on the BBC, he gets confronted this year by We Are Changing.

00:35:49.000 Hides in a closet.

00:35:50.000 Hides in a closet because he goes, uh-oh, not supposed to do that.

00:35:54.000 We Are Changing, when he confronts the former head of MI6 about it, and then their house gets broken into and everything's stolen.

00:36:00.000 I mean, folks, this is getting hardcore.

00:36:02.000 Thank you, Jason Bermas.

00:36:02.000 You got it.

00:36:03.000 Going back live now, do we have our guest, John?

00:36:05.000 We sure do.

00:36:06.000 Let's do it, let's go, go, go.

00:36:08.000 Well, so does he.

00:36:10.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:36:14.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:36:20.000 Well, in the next 30 minutes or so, we're really honored to be joined by Chuck Baldwin.

00:36:26.000 Chuck Baldwin, of course, is a radio talk show host, author.

00:36:30.000 He has tirelessly republished and gotten out the founding documents of liberty to tens of thousands of people, the Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and he's gotten the Constitution Party nomination, got it from the former UN ambassador, and Really, he's a fake conservative, another one of these neocons, better than Bush, but that's not saying much.

00:36:55.000 Mr. Key, and I'm sad that, you know, Alan Yokees is like that.

00:37:01.000 I would like to think better of him.

00:37:03.000 I'm not bashing him.

00:37:04.000 I'm just glad that a true anti-New World Order individual won this and can really go out to debates and events now and spread the message of liberty.

00:37:14.000 And I wanted to talk to him just about his experiences so you can know who Chuck Baldwin the man is and how you can get involved in the campaign.

00:37:20.000 And also open the phones up if you'd like to ask any questions of him, but specifically for Chuck Baldwin and this election and the Constitution Party platform.

00:37:30.000 And Howard Phillips behind him and other great people.

00:37:33.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:37:37.000 And we'll keep him until 40 after if he can do it so he can take more calls. 1-800-259-9231.

00:37:42.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:37:45.000 Chuck Baldwin, thank you so much for coming on with us.

00:37:48.000 Alex, it's great to be with you again.

00:37:49.000 Thank you.

00:37:50.000 Out of the gates, I remember you years ago when this thing came out about preachers being approached by FEMA to teach their flocks to submit to government, hand their guns in, that you had said you had been similarly approached, but that was in my foggy memory.

00:38:05.000 Get updated, because as you know now, Mainstream News has admitted they've recruited 26,000 preachers.

00:38:10.000 It is for gun confiscation.

00:38:12.000 They're out giving sermons.

00:38:13.000 We now have them on video, on national TV, and locally, saying the same talking points about, let them take your children, take the inoculations, being a slave of government.

00:38:23.000 It's what Jesus wants.

00:38:25.000 You know, as a pastor, who's pastored a pretty good-sized church in Florida, I wanted you to break down your experiences with similar things.

00:38:33.000 Okay, Alex, yeah, we're going back to the days after Hurricane Katrina.

00:38:39.000 They didn't approach me directly.

00:38:41.000 I remember picking up that story out of Louisiana, and the reporter there chronicled how they were going to pastors in the area and asking them to facilitate the gun confiscation at the request of the federal government.

00:38:57.000 And when I heard of that, I wrote a column about it.

00:39:01.000 And after my column went out nationwide, I had a pastor call me from the state of Ohio, and he was approached.

00:39:10.000 In fact, he went in on some of the training classes that were given, and he was giving me his information and his experience.

00:39:18.000 And after that, I got up in my congregation, and I told them that not only would I not participate in requesting them to Give up their firearms because I was encouraging all of them to go out and buy a gun.

00:39:33.000 That was the issue, and then that got some press.

00:39:36.000 Right.

00:39:36.000 I mean, this is right out of the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany to have these state-approved churches, and when we got the secret documents two-plus years ago, and then it was a year and a half later that it was then confirmed, that really scared people.

00:39:49.000 I mean, they thought I was producing fake documents from preachers, even though the two pastors that gave us that material got Homeland Security visits.

00:39:58.000 Even though we covered up the phone numbers and where it came from, they were surveilling things so seriously that they were able to track who had done it, and it basically went and threatened them.

00:40:08.000 How dare a preacher tell the public that they've been secretly approached to brainwash their congregation?

00:40:14.000 I mean, this is hardcore tyranny on steroids, Pastor.

00:40:19.000 Well, yeah, it is, and it's the beginning of what George Herbert Walker Bush called, and you talk about a lot on your show, the New World Order, and we're seeing it come to fruition.

00:40:29.000 And I gotta tell you, Alex, and I think your listeners are already aware of this, that if these two major parties continue their dominance of American politics, the America that we've known, a free, independent, sovereign America, is not going to be long for this Earth.

00:40:44.000 And it doesn't matter whether you elect John McCain or Barack Obama, they're both going to facilitate this New World Order, the NAFTA superhighway, the North American Union, and all of that.

00:40:53.000 There's virtually no difference between the two major party candidates.

00:40:57.000 And that's why at the request of Howard Phillips and several others in the Constitution Party, they asked me if I would consider putting my name in nomination.

00:41:10.000 And I was very reluctant to do it, to be honest with you.

00:41:12.000 I mean, it's not like I have nothing to do, Alex.

00:41:15.000 I'm very busy, and I had to really pray and deliberate about that.

00:41:20.000 But finally, God gave me the green light, and so we put our name in the nomination.

00:41:24.000 And as you said, the delegates voted for me 74%, 24% over Dr. Alan Keyes.

00:41:29.000 So I've been on the campaign trail now for the last several weeks, and I gotta tell you, I just came back from the West Coast.

00:41:34.000 I was in Los Angeles and San Diego, then I went to Utah and toured the entire state of Utah.

00:41:40.000 We were going day and night.

00:41:41.000 The local press was very favorable to us.

00:41:44.000 The radio, television, print media was very favorable.

00:41:47.000 We had great crowds.

00:41:48.000 They were enthusiastic.

00:41:49.000 We made a lot of great friends and supporters.

00:41:52.000 And I've got to tell you, it was really great being out there on the West Coast and seeing the responses from people that are looking for the truth.

00:41:59.000 They're looking for people that will stand up without compromise and call a spade a spade.

00:42:04.000 And I've got to tell you, I think as we continue this campaign through these next couple of months, I believe the American people are really going to start awakening to what's happening.

00:42:15.000 I'm very encouraged at this point.

00:42:17.000 Well, everybody I talk to, and what I personally experience, Mr. Baldwin, is the same thing.

00:42:24.000 And now, out today, another scientific poll, the Drudge Report's got a link to it, it's also up on InfoWars.com, where Congress has the lowest approval rating in its history, and previously they never went below a 30.

00:42:39.000 And they just keep breaking record after record after record.

00:42:42.000 That shows that both parties are fully discredited, and they can't fool people putting one party in and taking it out and putting the other in.

00:42:52.000 For the first time in over 100 years since the last major realignment, this is a mega alignment.

00:42:58.000 We are at the point where the government is fully discredited.

00:43:03.000 And that's with the public only having a micron, on average, of understanding of just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

00:43:10.000 But this is a huge victory.

00:43:12.000 We have discredited these scoundrels, because on every major issue, they go against the Constitution, that also happens to be the will of the people.

00:43:21.000 You know, funny how the will of the people happens to be aligned with the Constitution.

00:43:24.000 Yeah, usually it is.

00:43:26.000 You know, another thing is very, I think, symbolic of what you were just mentioning there.

00:43:30.000 When I was out in California, Utah, I heard that there was a long time congressman out there that was a part of the establishment and he was for open borders and illegal immigration and the whole nine yards and everybody thought he was untouchable and that was Chris Cannon and lo and behold he got beat by a 60 to 40 percent margin in the primaries.

00:43:54.000 He never made it to the general election.

00:43:56.000 And this was a guy that they figured would never be beaten in Utah.

00:43:59.000 I got a feeling that this coming November there's going to be a real shakeup.

00:44:03.000 In Washington, D.C.

00:44:05.000 And if no other issue, I think, has galvanized the people as to the problem that these two major parties are presenting to us today, it's this illegal immigration problem.

00:44:15.000 I was on the border.

00:44:16.000 Alex, it was very interesting.

00:44:17.000 I got a grand tour.

00:44:19.000 I got the VIP tour of the main port of entry there, south of San Diego, on the border.

00:44:26.000 And then I went out into the real border, into the desert, and I saw the real situation that's going on out there, and I got a chance to talk to Border Patrol people and volunteers and so forth on the border.

00:44:35.000 And it's worse than we realized.

00:44:37.000 I mean, I thought I knew how bad it was, but when I got there and saw the reality of it, it was ten times worse.

00:44:43.000 It is totally lawless with Mexican troops kidnapping, killing U.S.

00:44:46.000 citizens, police, military, robbing sheriff's deputies at gunpoint.

00:44:52.000 In one night, 18 homes burned to the ground.

00:44:55.000 Rocket attacks, truck bombs in Dallas.

00:44:58.000 Major city police departments told to not arrest illegals even when they're committing DWIs.

00:45:03.000 I mean, it is just lawlessness.

00:45:06.000 Just total lawlessness.

00:45:08.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:45:10.000 And when I was there, I met a real sweet black couple, a man and wife.

00:45:14.000 They had a real great family.

00:45:16.000 A boy that's 17 years old, he was an honor student in school.

00:45:20.000 He was preparing for college, he was a star athlete, he made the honor roll, he was Dean's List, all of that.

00:45:27.000 He's standing out front of his home, in his front yard, and an illegal Mexican gangbanger came up and shot him in the gut. 0.93

00:45:36.000 And as the young man is writhing in pain on the ground, this fellow takes his gun and He puts it to his head and blows his brains out right there in the front yard. 0.94

00:45:45.000 Well, that's MS-13.

00:45:47.000 They have a, as you know.

00:45:48.000 And Alex, the thing about this is this guy had already assaulted a police officer there in Los Angeles, and he was out of jail on parole for assaulting a police officer when he killed this young man.

00:46:02.000 Now this is an illegal alien. 0.98

00:46:04.000 That's just one example of what's going on.

00:46:06.000 And for those that don't know, Chuck, sorry to interrupt you, there is a bounty on what the illegal aliens call Mayottas, and I didn't know this until a few years ago. 0.94

00:46:16.000 With at least a strain of the Mexican culture, blacks are completely reviled. 1.00

00:46:21.000 Now the mainstream media has had to admit that that's why a lot of people aren't going to vote who happen to be just recent American citizens, because they're going to vote for McCain instead, even though they're Democrats, because they hate, quote, blackbirds. 0.96

00:46:35.000 I hate to use that term, but we've got a serious race relations problem here.

00:46:40.000 Other question, Los Angeles, California is a real war zone with these gangs coming across the border.

00:46:46.000 And when you look at the two major party candidates, really, you look at Barack Obama, you look at John McCain, you look at McAmnesty McCain, there's no difference in these fellas when it comes to securing our borders.

00:46:57.000 Neither one of these fellas have any intention on securing our borders.

00:47:01.000 If the American people want to elect someone in November who really has the will and the determination To seal our borders and to protect our borders.

00:47:10.000 There's only one candidate in 2008 and that's Chuck Baldwin.

00:47:14.000 You're absolutely right.

00:47:15.000 Their fix for the border is to just legalize everyone.

00:47:18.000 That's kind of like the way to fix murder is just say murder isn't murder.

00:47:22.000 That's right.

00:47:23.000 And I think you know what's going on here.

00:47:25.000 This is just part of a bigger picture.

00:47:28.000 What they want to do is they want to facilitate this North American Union.

00:47:31.000 That's what they're doing.

00:47:33.000 And in order to do that they have to keep these borders open.

00:47:36.000 Chuck Baldwin, what I'm doing with some of the segments now is I'm also simulcasting this on my internet site via TV program and the web streams at InfoWars.com.

00:47:45.000 I don't want to waste any time with you, so we're going to talk a little bit here on the internet, kind of behind the scenes, then come back in a few minutes for everybody else.

00:47:52.000 So please stay with us.

00:47:54.000 We're going right back to Chuck Baldwin.

00:47:59.000 Okay, yeah, go ahead and bring me back to Mr. Baldwin.

00:48:01.000 Chuck, before you leave us, we're going to get out all the websites, how volunteers get involved, and I want to talk about a whole host of other issues.

00:48:09.000 But first off, I forgot to ask my producer, do you want to stay with us until about 45 after so we can take calls?

00:48:14.000 Yeah, I can do that.

00:48:15.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:48:16.000 I mean, if you can't, we can let you go at the bottom of the hour.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, no, 45, I told them to clear my calendar for you, so I'm good to a quarter till.

00:48:23.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:48:25.000 I do want to take some calls, and so we're going to be back here in about two minutes, and we'll go straight back to you.

00:48:32.000 What are some of the other issues you want to discuss when we get back on the main broadcast?

00:48:36.000 I want to talk about NAFTA and these free trade deals.

00:48:39.000 John McCain was down there in Columbia again.

00:48:40.000 I just got back from Michigan as well, and I saw the devastation of the economy up there in that state because of NAFTA.

00:48:47.000 Definitely want to talk about that.

00:48:48.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:48:49.000 And then how folks can join you, and then we'll take some phone calls.

00:48:53.000 We're going to give this out on the full radio show, but right now, for the internet viewers, go ahead and give out all your contact info.

00:48:59.000 Great.

00:49:00.000 Thank you very much.

00:49:01.000 The website is www.bald108.com.

00:49:06.000 That's bald108.com.

00:49:09.000 And the toll-free number is 888-USA-1911.

00:49:13.000 888-USA-1911.

00:49:17.000 Okay, you've got about a two-minute break.

00:49:19.000 We'll be right back to you, sir.

00:49:20.000 Okay, thank you, Alex.

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00:52:12.000 The New World Order's doing everything to us they said they'd do, and more.

00:52:16.000 Chuck Baldwin, really great guy, great writer, great researcher, wonderful pastor.

00:52:28.000 The type of person we need to run for president, Ron Paul, is out.

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00:52:56.000 But right now, Chuck Baldwin, Constitution Party presidential candidate.

00:53:01.000 You've been traveling the country, and also you've been watching McCain for the first time, a presidential candidate.

00:53:08.000 He's campaigning in Mexico, Colombia, Germany, taking illegal campaign contributions in England, admitting it's a felony and just saying, I don't care.

00:53:16.000 I mean, just despicable.

00:53:20.000 What's your take on NAFTA and GATT?

00:53:23.000 Well, I worked in Detroit, Michigan when I was a student in college from 1971 to 1973.

00:53:28.000 I worked at General Motors Truck and Coach Plant 5.

00:53:32.000 I was on the assembly line, UAW member, and all of that.

00:53:38.000 When I was there, there were three shifts a day, 24-7, putting out those big Astro GMC cabs, and the economy was vibrant and great.

00:53:47.000 Unemployment was almost non-existent.

00:53:50.000 I come back 35 years later.

00:53:52.000 I was just up there a couple weeks ago, and the plant that I used to work at, Alex, no longer exists.

00:53:58.000 They've torn it down.

00:53:59.000 I've looked at the neighborhoods there where I used to traverse going back and forth to work, and those factories are all gone.

00:54:05.000 The ones that aren't torn down are abandoned, dilapidated, empty.

00:54:09.000 The jobs are gone.

00:54:10.000 Of course, they're in China and India and Mexico. 0.95

00:54:13.000 Workers are scrambling to try to find two and three jobs to make up for the good job that they lost.

00:54:20.000 Boy, NAFTA and GATT was great, just like both parties told us it would be, and now things are going to get even worse.

00:54:26.000 They're saying the remaining Ford plants are going to Mexico.

00:54:29.000 Yep.

00:54:30.000 And you're right, it is because of these so-called free trade deals.

00:54:34.000 First it was NAFTA, then GATT and the WTO, and now it's CAFTA and the FTAA is just around the corner.

00:54:41.000 As you know, John McCain is down there in Columbia negotiating a free trade deal with Columbia.

00:54:45.000 He's not even President yet.

00:54:48.000 These things have devastated our economy.

00:54:50.000 They've devastated our workforce.

00:54:52.000 Our manufacturing plants are gone.

00:54:54.000 Can't hardly find anything made in America anymore.

00:54:57.000 And I know I've been on radio and television the last several weeks, and I keep telling everybody, they ask me about this, and I say, you know, look, this is not hard.

00:55:04.000 It's not rocket science, you know.

00:55:06.000 John McCain, he's all for NAFTA and GATT, he's all for free trade.

00:55:10.000 You've got Obama... But it's not free trade, it's 14,000 pages long, designed where we have all the regulations on us, they have none on them.

00:55:19.000 It's the same thing with John McCain embracing the global warming garbage.

00:55:23.000 Yeah, exactly right. 0.96

00:55:24.000 It's not free trade at all.

00:55:26.000 It's the rubric of free trade.

00:55:28.000 But, you know, Bob said, you know, look, we're not going to expand NAFTA, we're not going to revamp NAFTA.

00:55:32.000 When I'm president, we're going to repeal NAFTA.

00:55:35.000 We're going to repeal CAFTA.

00:55:37.000 FTAA is dead away when I become president.

00:55:40.000 All these are off the table.

00:55:42.000 I mean, when I become President, Alex, the New World Order comes crashing down.

00:55:46.000 Well, we can't have somebody who's constitutional and does what the people want and what will save the country.

00:55:52.000 We've got to further run the country in the ground.

00:55:54.000 How dare you say that you would do something that everyone in the country wants but the globalists?

00:56:00.000 You're a radical. 0.96

00:56:00.000 This is insane. 0.96

00:56:01.000 Yeah, well, let me tell you what.

00:56:03.000 It's time for all of us common people out there, Alex, if we don't start banding together now, And standing together now, we're not going to have an opportunity to do so in the near future.

00:56:13.000 Because I think that our country is perilously close.

00:56:17.000 I think that we are hanging by a thread.

00:56:19.000 Our freedoms, our liberties... Oh, I can feel it in my spirit!

00:56:23.000 We are hanging by a thread.

00:56:23.000 Can't you, Pastor?

00:56:25.000 I mean, have you ever in your spirit, Pastor, with your discernment, have you ever felt that we're in this much peril?

00:56:30.000 I mean, I know I haven't.

00:56:31.000 No, no, never.

00:56:33.000 I really do believe that.

00:56:34.000 I think we are hanging by a thread.

00:56:36.000 And it's time for the American people to stand up now.

00:56:39.000 It's time for us to band together and to support what we know in our hearts is right.

00:56:44.000 And quite honestly, I need the support of the people in your audience.

00:56:47.000 I need people to help me financially.

00:56:49.000 I need them to tell their friends about my campaign and to help us get on some of these major talk shows to get our message out.

00:56:56.000 You know, if we don't work together, Alex, if the people that listen to you don't support you, You're not going to be able to get the message out.

00:57:03.000 You can't do what you're supposed to do.

00:57:05.000 And if they don't support me, I can't get the message out and do what God wants me to do.

00:57:08.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:09.000 That's why we've had Ron Paul Meetup groups and the Ron Paul March on today, and that's why we've got you on, Pastor Baldwin, because we try to be a platform here with our wonderful audience who are the best.

00:57:20.000 We just go back to them time and time again, but they always Uh, come to, you know, the aid again and again, because they know if they don't do it, nobody will.

00:57:28.000 And you're right, everybody knows it in their gut, not just intellectually.

00:57:31.000 You intellectually analyze stuff, it is put-up-or-shut-up time.

00:57:35.000 This is the eye of the storm.

00:57:37.000 And then you analyze it with your gut, you know, it's just as bad.

00:57:42.000 I mean, any way you slice it, we're in trouble.

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01:00:57.000 All right, let's go straight back to Pastor Chuck Baldwin running for president.

01:01:08.000 And I've been interrupting so much because I'm so excited with what he's saying.

01:01:11.000 And I want to give him a few minutes to talk about whatever issues he wants.

01:01:13.000 And we're going right to your phone calls.

01:01:16.000 Go ahead, Pastor Baldwin.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, thank you very much, Alex, and can I put out the website to your audience?

01:01:22.000 Oh yeah, it's www.baldwino8.com.

01:01:22.000 Absolutely.

01:01:26.000 That's baldwino8.com.

01:01:30.000 And if somebody wants to contact us, we have a toll-free number, and that number is 888-USA-1911.

01:01:35.000 That's 888-USA-1911.

01:01:38.000 And I appreciate that very much.

01:01:40.000 Yeah, you know, our platform is very specifically, we want to return America to constitutional government.

01:01:47.000 We believe that without constitutional government, our freedoms and our liberties are in peril.

01:01:52.000 And it's absolutely essential right now that we return to The principles as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

01:02:03.000 And by the way, just to let your audience know, I'm going to be speaking this Saturday with Dr. Ron Paul at his big Freedom March rally in Washington, D.C.

01:02:12.000 this Saturday.

01:02:14.000 In fact, if I understand my place on the platform, I'm going to be speaking right directly in front of him this Saturday afternoon in Washington, D.C.

01:02:23.000 Yes, I had the organizers on earlier today and they said that is the case.

01:02:28.000 Oh yeah, great, terrific.

01:02:29.000 Well, I'm glad I got that right.

01:02:30.000 But I'm looking forward to doing that.

01:02:32.000 You know, he picked up the banner there for us in the primary.

01:02:35.000 And as you know, I supported him during the primary season and did everything I could to try to help him win the nomination.

01:02:41.000 And whenever it became obvious that the Republican Party was going to reject his candidacy, then of course I became the nominee of the Constitution Party.

01:02:50.000 And we just really believe that that message that Ron Paul was preaching is the message that we've got to continue.

01:02:55.000 We just have to continue the message of less government and getting back to the principles as articulated by the Founding Fathers and getting government off of our backs and out of our pocketbooks.

01:03:07.000 Start being Americans again.

01:03:09.000 We're not ashamed of that message, America first.

01:03:12.000 It's still America, the free America.

01:03:16.000 The home of the brave.

01:03:17.000 We believe in our independence and our sovereignty.

01:03:20.000 We reject these New World Order policies that both of the parties are perpetrating against us.

01:03:26.000 And if we don't do it now, in 2008, I'm not sure that we're going to have many more elections that we're going to be able to do it.

01:03:33.000 It's real simple.

01:03:34.000 The U.S.

01:03:35.000 is the big engine, the big dominant system, or was.

01:03:38.000 Powerful financial interests, predominantly multinational and foreign, came in, bought control of our government, have run out our credit, buying up real assets for themselves, and now they know they've committed great crimes.

01:03:49.000 They're building a police state and immunity to protect themselves.

01:03:54.000 And we even got the IMF and World Bank documents in 2002.

01:03:57.000 They were planning to do this.

01:03:59.000 I mean, we know they are carrying out a criminal operation.

01:04:03.000 We know the government's rogue.

01:04:05.000 It's against the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, against what the people want.

01:04:10.000 And so many crazy things are happening that this is it.

01:04:15.000 And again, the good news is, the bad news, we have a rogue government.

01:04:18.000 The good news, that the constitutional position is the popular one, and the mainstream media is losing its control and losing its monopoly.

01:04:29.000 And so we're in a very important sea change right now, a fork in the road.

01:04:33.000 Which way are we going to go?

01:04:35.000 And people could say Chuck Ball will never win.

01:04:39.000 Well, you could say Ron Paul would never win.

01:04:41.000 Now we have tens of millions of young people out fighting open borders, gun control, the New World Order, NAFTA, GATT, trans-Texas highways, super highways, the NAU.

01:04:55.000 Well, no, they're not invincible.

01:04:58.000 It's still we the people.

01:04:59.000 We still are the greatest force under God in this country, and people need to remember that.

01:05:04.000 that we're beginning to find out that they are not invincible.

01:05:06.000 Your comments on that, Chuck Baldwin?

01:05:08.000 Well, no, they're not invincible.

01:05:10.000 It's still we the people.

01:05:11.000 We still are the greatest force under God in this country, and people need to remember that.

01:05:16.000 You know, I'm reminded of the election of 1860, and while I'm not a big fan of Abraham Lincoln, the man and the president, I would go back...

01:05:24.000 I was asked just this morning, I had a radio interview, a nationwide show, and they said, well, you know, you don't have a chance to win.

01:05:32.000 I said, well, you know, if you were talking to Abraham Lincoln back in 1860, you would have said the same thing, because the Republican Party was a minor party at that time.

01:05:41.000 They had elected no one to federal office to that point.

01:05:45.000 Abraham Lincoln himself had been defeated time after time after time in every race that he ran in.

01:05:50.000 And here he was running for the president in 1860 on a minor party ticket, and lo and behold, in that election, he won in a four-man race with 39% of the vote.

01:06:00.000 And then, of course, the Republican Party became a major party.

01:06:03.000 The Whigs disappeared. 0.52

01:06:04.000 And for the last 140 years, we've had the Democrats and Republicans.

01:06:07.000 And that was the last major realignment.

01:06:09.000 And so what we know is, if you and others don't fight, they're going to win.

01:06:13.000 Resistance is victory.

01:06:15.000 Exactly.

01:06:16.000 And who knows what can happen?

01:06:17.000 You know, you quoted that from John Quincy Adams, and I love that quote.

01:06:21.000 Duty is ours, results are God's. 0.57

01:06:23.000 And who knows what God may want to do in 2008 with our efforts?

01:06:26.000 Who knows?

01:06:27.000 what may happen because we were willing to stand up and do what was right and so that's what I'm doing Alex and that's what you're doing every day on your radio show and now if the American people will band together with us and will help us and support us you know who knows it's a long time between now and November there's a lot of things can happen well it's also the example of the Alamo Those men said victory or death, and they knew what they were doing, and the fact is that 180-something of them died fighting at least 5,000 other soldiers, but that example

01:06:59.000 That being overrun, being killed, standing up, fighting overwhelming odds, then embolden others to fight and win.

01:07:06.000 And I'm not saying you're going to get wiped out or massacred.

01:07:10.000 The point is, that is an example of duty being ours.

01:07:16.000 And that you never know what God's great plan is for us, but we have to do the right thing no matter what is going to come of it.

01:07:25.000 And so again, folks, we'll give out his phone number and web address for you to try to support the campaign.

01:07:31.000 He's got a great platform.

01:07:32.000 I agree with it 100%.

01:07:33.000 I hope you'll check it out for yourself.

01:07:35.000 Right now, let's take some calls.

01:07:36.000 Ben in New York City.

01:07:37.000 You're on the air with the Constitution Party's presidential candidate, Chuck Baldwin.

01:07:41.000 Go ahead.

01:07:42.000 Hi, guys.

01:07:43.000 Chuck, it's great to have you on the show today.

01:07:46.000 I want to say that one thing Alex, you just said there, you said, if we don't fight, we don't win.

01:07:50.000 Baker Hoover once said that only an informed citizenry can defeat the New World Order or defeat who he believed were the New World Order.

01:07:59.000 One thing I wanted to ask Chuck about really quick was, Asher Topp-Benson was Eisenhower's Agricultural Secretary, and he was quite an ardent and outspoken constitutionalist.

01:08:08.000 How much have you heard of him, Chuck, at all?

01:08:12.000 No, I'm not real familiar with him, no.

01:08:14.000 Yeah, well, he was very outspoken back in the 50s.

01:08:16.000 He was Agricultural Secretary under Eisenhower.

01:08:19.000 And he spoke out boldly about defending the Constitution.

01:08:23.000 And there was a senator called William Jenner, about the same time, gave a very bold speech to the Senate.

01:08:30.000 And his final statement in that speech was that he believed there was a collectivist, one-party group trying to set up And that's why they're incremental.

01:08:41.000 Absolutely.

01:08:41.000 I appreciate your call.

01:08:42.000 this country, and that the only way that would be possible to happen is if the people were conditioned and eventually do not resist.

01:08:50.000 That's the key, that once we stop resisting, that then they can pull the switch.

01:08:54.000 And that's why they're incremental.

01:08:57.000 Absolutely.

01:08:58.000 I appreciate your call.

01:08:59.000 Comments on that, Chuck Baldwin?

01:09:00.000 Well, yeah, he's right.

01:09:01.000 And incrementalism has never served our purposes.

01:09:04.000 It's always served the other side, and that's what they've been doing for years, and now they're almost to the fruition part of their plan.

01:09:11.000 And again, I go back to what you said, Alex, I think it's incumbent upon each of us to recognize that when we stand up together and do what's right out of principle, that then we invoke, I believe, the power of God.

01:09:22.000 And of course, being a Christian, I do believe that God governs in the affairs of men, to quote Benjamin Franklin.

01:09:27.000 And I do believe that when those founding fathers stood up against the greatest military force in the world, Great Britain, it was impossible that they could have won.

01:09:35.000 I mean, it was impossible from a human standpoint that they could have prevailed.

01:09:39.000 But they did what was right.

01:09:40.000 They pledged their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor.

01:09:42.000 And they put it in God's hands.

01:09:44.000 They said, you will decide.

01:09:46.000 That's right.

01:09:47.000 That's what they said.

01:09:47.000 We looked into God for the rectitude of our intentions.

01:09:50.000 Exactly right.

01:09:50.000 They said, we're going to do what's right.

01:09:52.000 We're going to stand up against all these odds, no matter what.

01:09:55.000 We're going to let God decide our victory or not.

01:09:58.000 And they did what was right, and God gave them the victory.

01:10:01.000 And I think that's what God is waiting for today.

01:10:03.000 I really believe that if Christian people and conservatives and constitutionalists out there that know what's right in 2008 would just stand up and do what's right.

01:10:12.000 And forget what the experts and the pundits say they should do, and what's the pragmatic approach to take, and just do what's right on principle.

01:10:19.000 Who knows what will happen?

01:10:20.000 Who knows what God will do?

01:10:21.000 Regardless, you're going to go out and reach hundreds of thousands and millions of people, and it's the exercise of fighting that grows the party, that grows the ideas, that lets people know there's an alternative at a time when the minds are more fertile than ever to accept the truth.

01:10:36.000 Let's talk to Dave.

01:10:38.000 You bet.

01:10:38.000 Let's talk to Dave in Vancouver.

01:10:40.000 Dave, you're on the air with Pastor Chuck Baldwin, running for President.

01:10:43.000 Hi Alex, and hi Mr. Baldwin.

01:10:45.000 I'd like to go quickly.

01:10:47.000 First of all, I'd like to thank Mr. Baldwin for his courage and best of luck to you, sir, in restoring the Constitution of the United States, which I admire even being a Canadian all my life.

01:10:57.000 I think it's very important that the United States stay a free country so that the rest of the world can look to it as the shining city on the hill and aspire to that kind of freedom.

01:11:07.000 I don't think that Canada has the kind of freedom that the United States has even now, and I live here.

01:11:13.000 I'd like to also thank Mr. Ball for exemplifying the Judeo-Christian values that most of us, whether you subscribe to religion or not, claim to be if we say we're a good person.

01:11:27.000 And it was also really well shown by Beit Shalom Ministries and Alex, your recent work, Truth Rising, I loved it.

01:11:36.000 I think it's certainly your best work and I think it's probably also the best 9-11 documentary so far because it provides social proof where the others have provided evidence.

01:11:46.000 Well, it provides evidence as well as social proof, but absolutely.

01:11:50.000 Yeah.

01:11:51.000 Now, this is putting a face on this movement.

01:11:53.000 Thank you so much for the call.

01:11:54.000 Great things you said there.

01:11:56.000 Next caller for Chuck Baldwin.

01:11:59.000 Dana in Iowa.

01:12:00.000 You're on the air.

01:12:02.000 Hey, I'm actually on the air.

01:12:04.000 Yes.

01:12:07.000 I was wondering with this whole Illuminati thing, it seems like anyone I try to talk to about it or inform people, they just look at me like I'm nuts.

01:12:18.000 I'm just wondering, is it Well, maybe you should start slower with your circle that you're interacting with.

01:12:26.000 Some areas people are awake, some areas they're not.

01:12:29.000 And start with the North American Union.

01:12:31.000 Go to judicialwatch.org and get the documents about how they're doing it or give them My film, Endgame.

01:12:37.000 If you can't afford it, it's on Google Video, but you can see it in high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:12:42.000 You can give them your passcode if you're a member.

01:12:45.000 Give them a copy of Truth Rising.

01:12:46.000 Make copies of it.

01:12:48.000 I mean, really, instead of just talking to your family or friends, a lot of times a salesman will tell you, it's harder to sell your own family I mean, I could be at an event with cousins and family, and they treat me like I'm a low-grade moron two-year-old, and then I could have, you know, members of the Japanese Parliament or an Italian President or German Defense Minister, you know, tell me how much they respect me and admire me.

01:13:12.000 I mean, it's the same thing.

01:13:13.000 Like, a prophet isn't known in his own country.

01:13:16.000 I'm not saying we're prophets, but my point is that old saying is true.

01:13:21.000 Your family thinks you're trying to show off.

01:13:24.000 And so, or your co-workers, so give them a film and just say, hey, tell me what you think of this.

01:13:30.000 Chuck Baldwin, you want to comment on ways to reach out to people?

01:13:33.000 Yeah, I think your approach is very well taken.

01:13:36.000 You know, we have to try to educate people beginning at the level where they are, and I think the one thing that people can identify with today is the immigration problem.

01:13:47.000 I think this is the great opportunity that we have to try and explain to people what's going on when they They shake their heads and say, you know, why doesn't George W. Bush want to close the borders?

01:13:57.000 You know, I was just down there on the borders, I told you earlier in the broadcast, and I saw the plight of our Border Patrol people.

01:14:02.000 Alex, I was shocked to find out that our Border Patrol personnel, out of spite of the fact that they are sadly understaffed, they don't even have GPS equipment.

01:14:11.000 I didn't know that.

01:14:13.000 I didn't know that they didn't have night vision equipment.

01:14:15.000 Can you imagine putting our Border Patrol out there, out in the middle of nowhere, understaffed, outgunned, And they don't even have GPS equipment, and they don't have night vision equipment.

01:14:23.000 Well, half their duty now is picking up trash in the woods and in the scrub brush, and when they park their car on those grids, which the illegals all have maps of, the coyote smugglers, they're only allowed to look one direction, and if they see illegals in the other direction, they're not allowed to stop them.

01:14:40.000 Well, what I'm saying is, I think when people look at this and they say, well, you know, why is not this administration willing to secure our borders?

01:14:47.000 While we're fighting terror halfway around the world, ostensibly, why are we not closing our own borders to illegal aliens? 1.00

01:14:53.000 And then you can explain to them, you know, look, you know, This orphan border policy is serving a bigger agenda.

01:15:00.000 You can talk about what's going on is the creation of the North American Union, and they want to merge the trilateral government from the United States.

01:15:08.000 And it's in all their public documents.

01:15:10.000 They have joint sessions of Congress down there, and they talk to the public.

01:15:14.000 I mean, I live in Texas.

01:15:15.000 I'll never forget CNN and Fox doing reports saying, Ron Paul's nuts.

01:15:19.000 He believes in a thing called the Trans-Texas Corridor, and it doesn't exist.

01:15:23.000 And the thing's built.

01:15:25.000 TV ads, signs everywhere.

01:15:27.000 Right.

01:15:28.000 And people in Texas, that woke a lot of people up.

01:15:30.000 They went, what do you mean it doesn't exist?

01:15:32.000 Absolutely.

01:15:33.000 And I've often talked about those folks down there in Texas that are fighting for us like the defenders of the Alamo did.

01:15:39.000 So many years ago, you were out there on the front lines defending us from this trance, this North American community and the NAFTA superhighway.

01:15:47.000 You guys were on the front lines there in Texas.

01:15:49.000 But what I'm saying is, I think that this affords us an opportunity to educate people as to what's going on in our government today, to recognize that there is something sinister afoot here, and here's what we can do to stop it.

01:16:02.000 And American people need to understand that they do have the power to stop it, And I really do believe that if people will come together and will, you know, oppose these things and do it in a united effort, there's no telling what will happen this year.

01:16:17.000 I want to take a few final calls here and we've got to let Chuck Baldwin go on to another interview.

01:16:17.000 Absolutely.

01:16:22.000 Let's take one final call from Scott in Arizona.

01:16:25.000 You're on the air with Chuck Baldwin.

01:16:26.000 Go ahead, Scott.

01:16:28.000 Yeah, Mr. Baldwin, I wanted to find out if you have had any luck with any of the major media outlets.

01:16:33.000 I know Rob Paul did get some play in that.

01:16:37.000 I wanted to know if you had any luck there, and do you have a running mate in mind as well?

01:16:43.000 Oh yeah, I already have my running mate. 0.61

01:16:44.000 He's a great guy.

01:16:45.000 He's a Vietnam vet in the United States Marine Corps.

01:16:48.000 A veteran.

01:16:49.000 He's a practicing attorney in Memphis, Tennessee.

01:16:52.000 His name is Darryl Castle and he's a great guy.

01:16:54.000 I'm proud to have him on my ticket.

01:16:57.000 Yes, we're very hopeful that we'll be able to break into the mainstream television network.

01:17:02.000 So we're especially hopeful that Lou Dobbs or Glenn Beck will pick us up.

01:17:06.000 I encourage your listeners, Alex, to To encourage the Lou Dobbs Show and the Glenn Beck Show to have us on, because we think that they would be receptive to our message.

01:17:15.000 And we have been on some of the national.

01:17:17.000 We made it to Bill O'Reilly the other night in a mention, and I did Reason Magazine interview with them.

01:17:24.000 I was in Salt Lake Tribune, which is a major newspaper.

01:17:26.000 I was with the Orange County Register, a major newspaper.

01:17:28.000 And you're doing a lot of radio interviews every day, which has big audiences.

01:17:32.000 I mean, O'Reilly and them, it's only 3 million viewers, and a lot of radio shows have that many listeners.

01:17:37.000 I know this one does.

01:17:39.000 Now, in closing, I want to give out the website again and tell folks how to get involved, but I also just want to add, that's how the media, and I know everybody knows this, but we need to consciously think about it, how they ignore all the other candidates and only talk about the two, who really, there's no difference between them.

01:17:54.000 Again, that's another reason to put pressure on the media, not just for Chuck Baldwin, but to overall show how they restrict the field intentionally.

01:18:04.000 Right, exactly right.

01:18:05.000 Yeah, I appreciate the opportunity.

01:18:07.000 The website is bald108.com.

01:18:10.000 www.bald108.com.

01:18:13.000 And the toll-free number, for more information or to volunteer to help us or whatever, 888...

01:18:19.000 USA 1911.

01:18:21.000 That's 888-USA-1911.

01:18:24.000 Pastor Baldwin running for President on the Constitution Party ticket.

01:18:27.000 The party is growing.

01:18:29.000 It's in all your major cities and states.

01:18:31.000 Check into it today.

01:18:33.000 And God bless you.

01:18:34.000 Have a great trip there in D.C.

01:18:36.000 Speaking with the Congressman.

01:18:37.000 Say hi to him for me.

01:18:38.000 Thank you.

01:18:39.000 Thank you, Pastor Baldwin.

01:18:41.000 Appreciate it very much.

01:18:41.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:18:42.000 Keep up the good work.

01:18:43.000 You too, my friend.

01:18:44.000 We'll be right back with some news clips and other info before Dr. Paul Gregg Roberts joins us.

01:18:50.000 He'll be with us for 30 minutes.

01:18:51.000 Then I'm going to play the Declaration of Independence audio on air.

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01:25:17.000 And they're going to keep telling you that you're not hurting them.

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01:25:36.000 Doing that would only build me up and only make my work stronger.

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01:25:54.000 And then a lot of weak-minded people that are helping the feds unknowingly.

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01:26:20.000 Warn people about fluoride.

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01:28:10.000 You're going to have your own environmental marker on your car, on your billfold, you know, in your ID cards for what your environmental footprint is.

01:28:20.000 It's going to start with your cars.

01:28:22.000 I've got that here in the stack.

01:28:23.000 I'm going to get to that later.

01:28:25.000 I wanted to play a minute or so of this CNN piece where they're announcing how great it is.

01:28:30.000 Oh, there's some people that are imagining things.

01:28:33.000 There's all these rumors.

01:28:35.000 Meanwhile, it's on 60 Minutes and everywhere they have microwave guns, sound cannons there, rubber bullets, $25 million spent per convention.

01:28:43.000 But they come in and call them weapons.

01:28:45.000 They say they're going to use them on them.

01:28:47.000 Then they use an emotional, cognitive dissonance trigger and say, some of the crazy people are saying that it's secret and that there might be weapons.

01:28:57.000 But now let us show you the weapons.

01:29:00.000 I mean, a total propaganda piece with the reporters reporting on it like they're talking about some fun water park or something.

01:29:07.000 Oh, in Darth Vader outfits with microwave weapons.

01:29:12.000 It's going to be there, but some believe it's going to be there. 0.85

01:29:15.000 See, all just indoctrinating you in mental illness.

01:29:18.000 Let's go ahead and play this.

01:29:20.000 Pepperball rifles, Goo Guns, and Sonic Rays.

01:29:22.000 Some of them are just wild rumors, but some may not be.

01:29:25.000 Some of those weapons might be used to protect our political conventions later on this year.

01:29:30.000 At Lavenderia is at the convention site in Denver where the Democrats are going to meet.

01:29:33.000 See, hit pause.

01:29:34.000 Some of those weapons, now it's not non-lethal, it's...

01:29:37.000 Weapons!

01:29:38.000 See, they were meant to train, to see images of men in black shooting at people, flame shooting out of guns.

01:29:43.000 The Army said 20 years ago, then they'll upgrade to rubber bullets, harder bullets that kill a lot of people, there'll be deaths, they're going to have provocateurs that will attack peaceful people, the news will be part of the cover-up, show the cops dressed up and say they're real anarchists. 1.00

01:29:59.000 We're going to expose these little bastards. 0.99

01:30:01.000 Let's go back to it. 0.99

01:30:04.000 John and Kieran, to prepare for this summer's political conventions, Congress is giving the host cities, Denver and St.

01:30:09.000 Paul, Minnesota, $50 million each to pay for security expenses.

01:30:13.000 Alright, stop it right there.

01:30:14.000 Congress doesn't give money. 0.72

01:30:16.000 They take our money locally. 0.99

01:30:17.000 I hear idiots every Every day they say it's free money, and then they send federal control in, and with this federal money Delta Force in 99 commanded the anarchists, that came out in the mainstream news, and staged them rioting so they could attack the peaceful people. 1.00

01:30:31.000 They are traitors and enemies of America. 1.00

01:30:33.000 They are trying to destroy our democratic process and our first amendment. 0.99

01:30:36.000 They are guilty of treason!

01:30:38.000 Back to the clip!

01:30:40.000 But what exactly that money is being spent on is top secret here in Denver.

01:30:45.000 Oh, stop right there.

01:30:46.000 Back it up again.

01:30:47.000 See, it's top secret.

01:30:49.000 Oh, there's wild rumors about this, but we do have these weapons, but it's top secret, and the feds run it.

01:30:54.000 See, everything's top secret.

01:30:56.000 Your local cops are now top secret, and the preacher's spying on you.

01:31:00.000 Top secret, with these criminal, drug-dealing murderers that run our government, running all of this.

01:31:05.000 Back to it.

01:31:06.000 It is top secret here in Denver.

01:31:09.000 25 million dollars buys a lot of very interesting things.

01:31:13.000 Bob Newman is an anti-terrorism consultant helping some Denver companies prepare for the Democratic Convention.

01:31:19.000 He's anxious to see what kind of crowd control weaponry authorities will deploy for the convention.

01:31:24.000 Authorities?

01:31:24.000 There are also these crazy rumors going around.

01:31:27.000 Stop right there.

01:31:29.000 Notice how it's all scripted.

01:31:30.000 They first have the anchor say, crazy rumors.

01:31:32.000 They cut to him, crazy rumors.

01:31:34.000 But he's fighting terror. 0.97

01:31:36.000 The protesters are terrorists.

01:31:38.000 See? 0.99

01:31:39.000 And it goes on and on.

01:31:40.000 All woven.

01:31:41.000 All crafted.

01:31:43.000 All baseline propaganda.

01:31:45.000 And just defenseless public. 0.51

01:31:47.000 You know, those that haven't tuned out of mainstream news are just like... And then they'll see if the feds decide to spring it if we don't counter their black op. 0.95

01:31:56.000 They will have their cops out leading little terrorist squads, and you'll find out the anarchists are really communists, most of them, that are with the cops, and they'll tell you point blank, they'll go, I'm gonna kill you someday, Jones, you're damn right, we're cops. 0.95

01:32:08.000 I work for them and we're taking over. 0.85

01:32:10.000 The state needs to rise and we're here to make sure it does.

01:32:13.000 Then later, down with the state!

01:32:14.000 Down with the state!

01:32:15.000 Then they're total statists.

01:32:16.000 I mean, I've had them in Austin death-threaten me, sitting there getting black-op orders from the cops, with feds overhanging us.

01:32:22.000 You know what it's like to know the police are terrorists?

01:32:25.000 You know what it's like to have them come up and say they're going to plant bombs on you? 1.00

01:32:28.000 You know what it's like to know these bastard anarchist leaders are scumbag feds? 0.99

01:32:33.000 You know what it's like to know they're out there doing this so they can shut down our free speech? 0.99

01:32:39.000 And I'm going to Denver, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm going to cover what's going on there.

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01:35:58.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:36:05.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:36:09.000 There is a war on for your mind.

01:36:11.000 You have found it, the tip of the spear, the very front lines in the fight against the globalists.

01:36:17.000 And their crime syndicate that has destroyed the name of our country, destroying our currency, setting up an unmitigated police state, and preparing a heinous, Hitlerian-style attack on the Iranians that even mainstream media and brokerage houses are saying will triple energy prices for the time. 0.99

01:36:36.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts joins us for the next 30 minutes or so.

01:36:40.000 And we're going to talk about the Iran situation, the neocons, what he thinks they're going to do, what's happening with the economy, the anthrax case.

01:36:47.000 He's been writing a lot of great syndicated columns out there.

01:36:51.000 He also, of course, has his second edition of his great book out.

01:36:55.000 Well, Alex, I hardly know where to begin.

01:36:57.000 He is the father of Reaganomics, former Wall Street Journal associate editor, and, of course, was the head economist, number two man of the Department of the Treasury, head of policy.

01:37:08.000 Good to have you on, Dr. Roberts.

01:37:11.000 Let's tackle any of those subjects I threw out that you want to hit first.

01:37:15.000 Well, Alex, I hardly know where to begin.

01:37:21.000 And, you know, for some years I've been expressing the view that an attack on Iran was in the cards unless somebody was able to stop it. - Mm.

01:37:33.000 And it doesn't look like the Congress or the media are going to stop it.

01:37:41.000 There's indications that the United States military is not very happy about it, except maybe for the Air Force.

01:37:50.000 On the other hand, it seems at this point, To really be a reckless scheme, because so much has come out about the behavior of the Bush regime.

01:38:08.000 The fact that we were completely deceived, that they lied about all the so-called evidence leading into Iraq.

01:38:16.000 You know, we've had the book by the former White House press spokesman.

01:38:20.000 We've had the Rockefeller Committee's reports.

01:38:25.000 On how all the intelligence was misrepresented and fabricated by Bush and indeed every high official in his government.

01:38:34.000 And so for them, in the face of all of this, in the face of European opposition, apparently even in the face of Arab opposition of our own puppet states like Saudi Arabia and Egypt,

01:38:55.000 If they attack it, Iran, it will really be reckless and I would assume if they go ahead with such absence of support everywhere that they intend for the Iranian response to sink our aircraft carriers or do something dramatic that everybody gets so mad 0.98

01:39:25.000 and scared and all the rest about that we use nuclear weapons.

01:39:30.000 So I can't think of any other reason.

01:39:33.000 The sort of notion we're going to do some kind of surgical attack on their nuclear reactors seems to me to be far-fetched because the damage that would be done, it would be small compared to the risk of the retaliation, if they actually can close the Strait of Hormuz and stop oil flows.

01:40:00.000 If they actually can sink those carriers, which apparently they can do. 0.72

01:40:06.000 If they actually can hit the Idril itself with those longer range missiles.

01:40:17.000 As the Arabs themselves predict, it would cause an uproar throughout the Middle East that maybe cause even the Milwaukee puppet regime in Iraq to turn against us. 0.78

01:40:32.000 And they're also, Iran has said they're going to attack with a Blitzkrieg military-style attack into Iraq.

01:40:38.000 They've said they're going to block the strait there with a bunch of sunken ships.

01:40:45.000 They're saying, and of course the military, let's get this on the record now, the Navy and Admiral Fallon and others have said they've been ordered to put the ships way, way too close to Iran and there's no reason to even do that.

01:40:58.000 We're talking 20, 30 more minutes of flying time to make the aircraft carriers be safe.

01:41:04.000 The Bush administration is knowingly sticking them right up there, inviting the Iranians to blow it to kingdom come, and a large segment of the population that is dim-witted, to say the least, psychologically scarred, will see that as an attack by Iran, when Iran has, under international law, the right to fight back and defend itself. 0.78

01:41:27.000 And what concerns me, Dr. Roberts, I want to get your take on this.

01:41:31.000 is, A, the ships, why they knowingly have them up so close under orders, and I mean, that's clear evidence of treason right there by the executive branch.

01:41:40.000 But secondarily, I've seen Times of London and U.S.

01:41:44.000 newspapers all saying they bought monkeys for bioweapons.

01:41:48.000 You read the article, no evidence.

01:41:51.000 They're making a nuclear bomb again.

01:41:52.000 They've got one.

01:41:54.000 I mean, just the same lies that we heard with Iraq, I'm seeing the exact same script, just changing that last letter from Iraq to Iran. 0.79

01:42:05.000 And it's like a dream world we're walking through.

01:42:09.000 Ron Paul said that on the show last week, like you can't believe it's happening, but it appears they're just going to do it come hell or high water.

01:42:16.000 Well, that certainly seemed to be the case.

01:42:23.000 And the only reason I can see they would want to do all this would be so they could use nuclear weapons.

01:42:29.000 You know, sometime back, I came to the conclusion, I don't remember if it was 06 or 07, that they had learned, the neoconservative Brownshirts and the Brownshirt Bush regime had learned that they cannot dominate the Middle East with conventional weapons.

01:42:49.000 And so that they came to the conclusion that they would have to nuke The Muslims, because then the Muslims would realize that terrorism and guerrilla warfare, fourth generation warfare, is not an effective response to nuclear weapons. 0.98

01:43:08.000 So, that's the conclusion the neocon grounds for. 0.87

01:43:13.000 Exactly, but the analysts are saying it will turn the whole West, the whole world further against this, will cause domestic resistance, and I guess that's their excuse to crack down domestically.

01:43:24.000 It appears then this is a going for broke.

01:43:28.000 Well, it doesn't make any sense because We have nothing to gain by it.

01:43:33.000 I mean, there's nothing that we gain by it.

01:43:36.000 I'm absolutely convinced the Bush regime knows that Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons.

01:43:41.000 The International Atomic Energy Agency keeps telling them that over and over and over.

01:43:46.000 Furthermore, it wouldn't make any difference if they had nuclear weapons.

01:43:49.000 A lot of people have nuclear weapons that are far greater potential threats to the United States than Iran could ever be. 0.96

01:43:58.000 Just China and Russia. 0.79

01:44:01.000 Pakistan!

01:44:02.000 Well, yes, but it's hard to imagine even Pakistan being a threat. 1.00

01:44:09.000 No, I mean, I agree with you.

01:44:10.000 China and Russia, I mean, and yet what we're doing provokes China and Russia because China relies, has huge energy investments in Iran and relies on that as a source of energy and any nuclear Fallout would probably spread over Russian territory.

01:44:32.000 The whole thing is insane.

01:44:34.000 And so, it makes, and there's nothing in it for us.

01:44:39.000 It's not like we gain anything from doing this.

01:44:43.000 And that's why it makes no sense to me.

01:44:47.000 And I don't, there's not really any support for it.

01:44:51.000 I mean, maybe some of the crazies in Congress, But I don't think it's such an isolated and evil act that it's hard to see what the advantage is.

01:45:05.000 But torture is evil and there's no advantage unless it means terrorizing the people of the West, creating fear.

01:45:11.000 Yeah, I agree with that, Alex, but the consequences of an individual case of torture is not the same as attacking Iran and provoking.

01:45:19.000 Why did Hitler invade? 0.68

01:45:20.000 And then going into a nuclear type You know, if we drop nuclear bombs on them, what's the... I mean, Japan, just think what it... reawakens in Japan, because we nuked two of their cities for no reason whatsoever. 0.80

01:45:35.000 And basically they were war crimes directed against civilian population.

01:45:41.000 It'll just reawaken them. 0.98

01:45:43.000 That's the whole thing.

01:45:44.000 And we're not strong.

01:45:45.000 We're not... the dollars are weak.

01:45:47.000 We depend on foreigners to finance us. 0.91

01:45:50.000 Finance both our imports and the daily operations of the government.

01:45:55.000 Well that's what Ron Paul says.

01:45:56.000 He says that most assuredly this will accelerate the demise of the dollar if they attack.

01:46:01.000 Do you agree?

01:46:03.000 Oh yeah, sure.

01:46:07.000 It'll leave us even more hated and isolated and there's no advantage. 1.00

01:46:12.000 I mean, you'd have to be not only insane, but you'd have to have a moronic IQ. 0.99

01:46:21.000 to see Iran as a threat to America, that somehow they were a threat to us. 0.99

01:46:28.000 Even if they had nuclear weapons, they're not a threat to us.

01:46:32.000 You know, Iran has not attacked anybody, and God knows when.

01:46:36.000 And by the way, Doctor, that was my next question.

01:46:37.000 As you know, for five years, Cy Hirsch has reported, the White House admits, they've got four different Wahhabist groups, which they have called Al-Qaeda, attacking Iran, blowing up school buses, mosques, and the Iranians are suing the U.S.

01:46:52.000 for doing it, and the U.S.

01:46:53.000 admits they're doing it.

01:46:54.000 I mean, we're attacking them every week with terror attacks, and they're laying there taking it.

01:47:02.000 Well, it's obvious that they don't want the conflict, and it's hard to see any reason for this, or anybody gaining from this, because the consequences for the United States are all so terribly adverse, and there's nothing good for us.

01:47:31.000 So, I don't know that it can happen.

01:47:36.000 You see, the Navy has to know those ships shouldn't be that close.

01:47:39.000 And so if they lose them, the Navy's got to know what's happened. 0.99

01:47:44.000 I don't know how much the idiot in the White House can demoralize the military and still have a military. 1.00

01:47:57.000 No one supports the Bush regime. 1.00

01:48:01.000 Uh, except Israel. 0.75

01:48:04.000 No country.

01:48:04.000 I mean, we buy leaders, and we buy them and get them to make these statements and all, but there's not any support for us, our attack on Iran.

01:48:16.000 There's no support for our wars in Iraq, none for our wars in Afghanistan, none for our wars in Africa. 0.66

01:48:25.000 I just don't know.

01:48:28.000 Alex, I mean, maybe they want to use it to Clamp down here and have a police state and arrest you and me and a lot of other people to put in those Halliburtonville camps.

01:48:38.000 Oh, I agree with you, Dr. Roberts.

01:48:40.000 I mean, that's it.

01:48:41.000 If you analyze it and you read their strategy of tension and you read their plan, what Bush calls Order Out of Chaos, it is just get us into an all-out economic collapse in the middle of a war so people will rally around the flag and the real target This is what Ray McGovern's finally saying.

01:48:58.000 He's pretty much agreeing with me.

01:48:59.000 I've been saying this for years.

01:49:01.000 Ron Paul's saying it too, and I guess you're now saying that, that we're the real target in all of this so they can loot here.

01:49:08.000 This is about them thinking that we will rally behind the flag if we see a smoking fleet Well, I've been writing about the police state like you've been talking about it and I can't dispute that we might be running that type of risk.

01:49:22.000 Coast to coast are doing warrantless blood taking on the side of the road.

01:49:25.000 They're doing it right here in Austin.

01:49:26.000 I mean, it's completely Orwellian.

01:49:30.000 Well, I've been writing about the police state like you've been talking about it, and I can't dispute that we might be running that type of risk.

01:49:41.000 I'm not sure how the population will take it, I'm not sure either how the United States government would be able to finance its operations under such circumstances.

01:50:00.000 Well, that was my next question.

01:50:02.000 I've analyzed it, not that I'm some expert, but I've talked to other experts who have been involved in this in third world countries, running these operations, and they say that it isn't going to work.

01:50:13.000 That maybe in a place where there's already warlords, they can pay off different ones to fight with each other and control factions that way, but they're saying the way the U.S.

01:50:23.000 has laid out That if they're really planning to go into a hot type of martial law, that the central government is going to collapse.

01:50:29.000 I mean, hell, I'm sure you saw it today.

01:50:31.000 Congress now has a 9% approval rating?

01:50:36.000 Oh, is that low?

01:50:36.000 Is it a single digit?

01:50:39.000 Well, yes.

01:50:41.000 And you know, too, that we don't have any troops.

01:50:44.000 They're all in Iraq and Afghanistan. 1.00

01:50:47.000 So, I don't know. 1.00

01:50:50.000 Hell, the NRA outnumbers any Combined police force and troops that the bastards could muster. 0.99

01:51:00.000 So I don't know how quietly people would go. 0.99

01:51:04.000 I don't know if they have the capability.

01:51:10.000 I think what they're more likely to do is get us cut off from fuel, from energy, from food, from financing.

01:51:23.000 And have all kinds of rioting and outbreaks that would be more aggressive and more violent than any we had seen in the past.

01:51:36.000 I think people are fed up with the police.

01:51:39.000 They hate them because they've seen all their brutalities and the senseless taserings and the senseless arrests.

01:51:48.000 I mean, Bush is certainly not loved.

01:51:50.000 I just don't think anybody's going to rally around Bush.

01:51:55.000 But they might around a new puppet like Obama.

01:51:59.000 Dr. Roberts, I want to, just out of the gates here, because we don't have much time left with you, I want to get your take on, we've got Obama, we've got McCain, I mean, we know Obama's bought and paid for by some of the same interests.

01:52:12.000 We know what McCain wants.

01:52:14.000 Bomb, bomb, bomb. 0.99

01:52:15.000 Bomb, bomb, Iran. 1.00

01:52:16.000 I have the Ross Mucin reports, respected polls.

01:52:21.000 The percentage of voters who give Congress good or excellent ratings has fallen to the single digits for the first time.

01:52:26.000 In history this month say just 9% is doing a good job, and the vast majority say they're doing a bad job.

01:52:34.000 I mean, if the government's fully discredited, the police are discredited, they're believing their own Kool-Aid they're drinking, but the public isn't, they know the illegal aliens are above the law, they know corrupt police are above the law, they know politicians are above the law. 0.57

01:52:46.000 Where do you see this going?

01:52:48.000 Well, nowhere good.

01:52:51.000 I agree with you on that.

01:52:56.000 And I think we could possibly have a little hope, at least, that things will slow down in the directions which they're going.

01:53:07.000 You know, Obama, he probably will talk a bit different, and just the fact that he talks different gives more cover to the cowards in Congress, especially among the Democrats.

01:53:25.000 You could actually see a substantial change in behavior in Washington.

01:53:37.000 As long as the President is talking war, war, terrorists, blah, blah, it's hard for people in Congress to get on the wrong side of that.

01:53:50.000 or very far on the wrong side.

01:53:52.000 But if somebody's talking a little bit differently, they get braver and they can be more aggressive.

01:53:58.000 And we could actually see some investigations and a more forceful attitude on the part of the Democrats in Congress.

01:54:09.000 I wouldn't completely dismiss that.

01:54:11.000 I wouldn't bet my life on it or anything.

01:54:12.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:54:13.000 The problem is Bush is saying he wants to attack Iran before Obama gets in or before McCain gets in.

01:54:19.000 We've only got a few minutes left.

01:54:21.000 I also want to plug the book before you leave, Dr. Roberts.

01:54:23.000 We appreciate your time.

01:54:25.000 The Economy.

01:54:26.000 I mean, you're an economist, a top economist.

01:54:28.000 Where do you see it going?

01:54:29.000 It looks like things are deteriorating faster than we had hoped.

01:54:33.000 We wish they would stop and reverse, but we had forecast, many had forecast, a few years for this to play out.

01:54:39.000 Does it look like it's worsening quicker than you thought?

01:54:46.000 No, I wouldn't say it's quicker than I thought.

01:54:47.000 There's several things happening.

01:54:49.000 As you know, we have this recession that's induced by the

01:54:54.000 uh... inability to keep the economy going any further on the build-up of debt and uh... uh... and but but that's not the main problem the main problem is we have destroyed the uh... uh... the infrastructure that produced good jobs for americans and no more good jobs they're off shored I saw the other day where all the automobile producers were closing their design studios in

01:55:24.000 California, they're all now offshore as well.

01:55:27.000 When you lose manufacturing, you lose research, development, design, you lose everything.

01:55:32.000 So all of the kind of jobs that we had people go to universities to do, they're gone.

01:55:37.000 And so the economy can't recover from that.

01:55:41.000 It's on its way to India of 20 years ago, where you have nothing but domestic service jobs. 1.00

01:55:51.000 And you have lawyers driving cabs and engineers driving cabs and working as barmen and that type of thing.

01:56:00.000 So I think they have pretty much ruined the outlook for Americans who used to Look to getting ahead in life, at least somewhat.

01:56:15.000 But that sure makes it cheap for multinationals to come in and buy up what's left.

01:56:19.000 In closing, is there any way to reverse this?

01:56:23.000 Not with the kind of leadership that we have in Washington or produce.

01:56:28.000 Not with the kind of disinformation that people continually fall for.

01:56:34.000 So I think we're going to have some pretty rough times.

01:56:41.000 As I say in this book of mine that's come out in the second edition, Tyranny of Good and Tensions, what we've really lost is the constitutional protections of our civil liberties.

01:56:52.000 And this is far more deadly than the loss of jobs, the loss of the economy.

01:56:58.000 We simply no longer have The protection of law.

01:57:04.000 Law is now a weapon.

01:57:06.000 Yeah, we can lose our factories and get them back and we have liberty.

01:57:10.000 But when you don't have liberty, you're just another third world cesspit.

01:57:13.000 That's right.

01:57:14.000 And that's the greatest change.

01:57:17.000 My book updates everything that's happened and has new chapters showing what Bush has added.

01:57:23.000 And we simply no longer are free people.

01:57:26.000 We think we are because the process of picking people up is random.

01:57:30.000 It's not directed at all of us or the group.

01:57:33.000 But we no longer protect it, Alex.

01:57:37.000 Absolutely.

01:57:38.000 Well, we appreciate you out there exposing it.

01:57:40.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, thank you for spending time with us.

01:57:43.000 The book is The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

01:57:44.000 Available in better bookstores everywhere.

01:57:47.000 Sure Alex, I'd like to be on you.

01:57:49.000 Say bye to him.

01:57:49.000 Keep rolling.

01:57:50.000 It's all right.

01:57:51.000 I'll just say bye to him.

01:57:52.000 Hey, Dr. Roberts, I want to get you up in the next few weeks as this Iran thing builds for a full hour. 1.00

01:57:57.000 And thank you so much for coming on with us.

01:57:59.000 Sure, Alex.

01:58:01.000 I like to be on you.

01:58:02.000 You're not intimidated.

01:58:04.000 You go sometimes as far as anybody can imagine going.

01:58:11.000 And I enjoy being with you because you're brave.

01:58:14.000 So, Alex.

01:58:14.000 Well, unfortunately, as you know, doctor, it appears as bad as we can imagine.

01:58:19.000 It's always worse.

01:58:20.000 Yeah, right.

01:58:21.000 That may turn out to be the case.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, unfortunately.

01:58:26.000 Well, you know what?

01:58:26.000 I think they're discredited though.

01:58:27.000 And I really think they're getting shot down and I see a light.

01:58:32.000 Now, we don't know if it's a train about to run over us or the end of the tunnel, but thanks to you and others.

01:58:37.000 I don't... I mean, in a way, we can just hope we fall into a third world instead of total, glistening, slick fascism.

01:58:44.000 I mean, I kind of just hope we collapse like the Soviet Union instead of, you know, morphing into something, you know, that is mechanized and focused and evil. 0.95

01:58:55.000 I mean, I kind of now do finally in my life see a lesser of two evils.

01:58:59.000 Do you... I mean, do you kind of get the point I'm making?

01:59:02.000 Yeah.

01:59:02.000 Alex, let me give you just one suggestion.

01:59:06.000 You don't want to be so negative about the future that all your listeners give up hope.

01:59:13.000 Because once they give up hope, they won't care anymore, and they won't even bother to listen.

01:59:18.000 They'll just say, "Oh, it's all over.

01:59:19.000 We can't do anything." So you've got to always hold hope out to keep your audience, to keep activity.

01:59:26.000 Don't ever just make them give up.

01:59:30.000 Well, I agree with you, but I think you may be misinterpreting what I do here.

01:59:34.000 I just cover the facts, and the fact is, the only hope we've got is to admit how bad it is and fight like hell.

01:59:41.000 Because this is the fight of our lives.

01:59:43.000 It's kind of like we're in a bulkhead with water coming in, and they're sitting around saying it's fine.

01:59:46.000 I'm going, no, it's rising.

01:59:48.000 We've got to get the hell out of here.

01:59:49.000 That's exactly it.

01:59:53.000 I agree with that.

01:59:53.000 Well, we'll talk to you soon, sir, and hope you had a great Fourth of July.

01:59:57.000 Okay, Alex.

01:59:58.000 All the best to you.

01:59:59.000 Thank you, Doc.

02:00:00.000 Goodbye.

02:00:00.000 Take care.

02:00:02.000 Yeah, folks, I just meant to say bye to him there, and it turned into a whole... You get to see the behind the scenes.

02:00:09.000 It's Red Level, folks.

02:00:10.000 I mean, this is... I talk to congressmen, I talk to people like Dr. Roberts, I talk to foreign ministers, and they are all just... My God, what are we going to do?

02:00:18.000 I mean, this is real, folks.

02:00:19.000 This is... The New World Order's real.

02:00:21.000 Their takeover's real.

02:00:23.000 You know, the fact that they're dosing everything with their poisons is real.

02:00:29.000 The fact that they're...

02:00:31.000 I've seen Dr. Roberts come a long way, you know, years ago interviewing him.

02:00:34.000 We've seen the full horror.

02:00:35.000 I mean, it's hard to believe this stuff. 0.98

02:00:37.000 It's hard to believe our government orders the military to rape children in front of their families. 0.96

02:00:41.000 I mean, what in the world is going on here? 0.90

02:00:45.000 And then I'm the radical because I'm against it.

02:00:48.000 Okay, we're going to go back live now to the main transmission.

02:00:51.000 And I want to, one more time for people, play the clip of Australian news with the attempted nerve gassing of their troops by their own government.

02:01:01.000 Here we go.

02:01:02.000 One thing's for sure.

02:01:15.000 These are not boring times.

02:01:18.000 These are the times that triumphed men's souls.

02:01:23.000 It was the best of times.

02:01:25.000 It was the worst of times in this tale of two cities.

02:01:29.000 One, a shining light of liberty and freedom.

02:01:32.000 The apple of the world's eye.

02:01:35.000 But now its evil doppelganger is what we witness as this government today.

02:01:41.000 The most wantonly evil government in history.

02:01:45.000 The most premeditatedly wicked and conniving group of sinister forces we've ever seen.

02:01:52.000 You are the target. 0.53

02:01:54.000 You are the enemy of the New World Order. 0.89

02:01:55.000 I want to play a bunch of clips now, but in the first hour, I played this clip from Australian newspaper, The Courier Mail.

02:02:05.000 And this is how they wanted to nerve gas, with lethal nerve gas, 200 troops.

02:02:10.000 They don't mention that in the U.S.

02:02:13.000 and England, it killed the troops in some of the tests and others just, they died a week later, a month later, a year later.

02:02:19.000 It was different dosages, thousands of tests.

02:02:22.000 That they did it to subways, they did it to San Francisco, Houston, Texas.

02:02:26.000 All of England was sprayed with biological, chemical, bubonic plague.

02:02:30.000 I mean, you name it, folks.

02:02:32.000 And they'd have troops, military doctors in the hospitals.

02:02:36.000 But this is in Australian news where their government said no.

02:02:40.000 Their government also said no in 1962 to grain shipments to Asia putting a hormone in it to sterilize the women.

02:02:50.000 Now, I want to explain something.

02:02:51.000 Our government did this here.

02:02:52.000 They went ahead with it.

02:02:54.000 Young man walks into the chamber.

02:02:56.000 Nervegasm. 1.00

02:02:57.000 And you tell veterans that, they'll say, you piece of trash. 1.00

02:03:00.000 Back up right now or I'll knock your head off. 1.00

02:03:03.000 You don't talk about my army! 0.99

02:03:05.000 And I go, no, no, no.

02:03:06.000 I have the articles.

02:03:06.000 I have the documents.

02:03:07.000 I have the congressional hearings. 1.00

02:03:08.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:03:09.000 I've never had this happen to me. 1.00

02:03:10.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:03:12.000 My government don't do it! 1.00

02:03:14.000 And I'm like, yes, yes they do.

02:03:16.000 Yeah, you just go ahead and make your threats.

02:03:18.000 I will warn you.

02:03:20.000 And it's just like a woman. 0.99

02:03:21.000 This happened with John Wayne Gacy.

02:03:24.000 You know, I've read quite a few books on criminology because they're so interesting.

02:03:29.000 I don't read them anymore.

02:03:30.000 It just upsets me too much the more I learn about evil.

02:03:33.000 And this guy had 20, 30, I forget dead bodies of 10, 12, 13, 14 year old boys. 0.96

02:03:39.000 He dressed up like a clown, lured them, killed them, tortured them, dressed up like a big fat demon clown. 0.98

02:03:45.000 John Wayne Gacy. 0.99

02:03:47.000 And his wife kept saying it stunk down there in the basement, but she was so blown away when she found out he was raping and torturing people to death. 0.99

02:03:54.000 It's the same thing over and over again. 0.98

02:03:56.000 If you'd have walked up to John Wayne Gacy, Miss Gacy, and said, Miss Gacy, he is killing people down there.

02:04:02.000 He is torturing them for days. 1.00

02:04:03.000 He is raping them. 1.00

02:04:05.000 She'd say, get out of here, you piece of trash. 1.00

02:04:07.000 How dare you say that to me? 1.00

02:04:10.000 I'll knock your bloody teeth out. 1.00

02:04:14.000 You see? 1.00

02:04:17.000 But after it happened, she could admit it.

02:04:19.000 I mean, I'm sorry, it's a fact!

02:04:21.000 Our government kills our police!

02:04:22.000 Our government kills our military! 0.95

02:04:24.000 Our government kills us all! 0.67

02:04:25.000 They're poisoning us in the shots, the air, the water, right now!

02:04:29.000 I'm not your enemy, cops.

02:04:30.000 I'm mad at you.

02:04:32.000 Violating my rights. 1.00

02:04:33.000 Being idiots. 1.00

02:04:34.000 Being brainwashed. 1.00

02:04:35.000 Incrementally.

02:04:36.000 I wish you'd stand up for America.

02:04:38.000 I know a lot of you want to.

02:04:39.000 But you're scared and don't know how.

02:04:41.000 Hell, I don't know how either.

02:04:42.000 I'm just trying to expose it.

02:04:43.000 People say, well, we want more solutions.

02:04:45.000 My God, I can't even get the public to admit that we're under attack.

02:04:49.000 No, that's the first part, is warning people.

02:04:51.000 I'm like, on the parapet, dinging the bell, blowing the horn, and I'm going, enemies, they're at the gate.

02:04:59.000 They're battering the gate.

02:05:01.000 We got enemies inside the gate, trying to open the gate for them, and then the public's walking around in la-la land, and I mean, you know, telling me, well, we want solutions.

02:05:09.000 Hell, man, it's not my job to give you solutions.

02:05:12.000 You know what, we do try to give you a lot.

02:05:14.000 We're just here letting you know, you know, hey, red alert, we're under attack.

02:05:19.000 I've got another clip I've got to play.

02:05:20.000 I've got to hurry now.

02:05:21.000 Go ahead and play the 30-something second.

02:05:25.000 And look how they whitewash it like it's no big deal.

02:05:29.000 Do they tell you what the lethal nerve gas was going to do to them?

02:05:32.000 Here it is.

02:05:33.000 It's been revealed the U.S.

02:05:34.000 military planned to test deadly nerve gas on Australian soldiers during the Cold War.

02:05:40.000 Newly declassified files show that America was strongly pushing then Prime Minister Harold Holt to allow the tests.

02:05:47.000 Is it your view that if Australia had got ahead with it, it was probably illegal?

02:05:51.000 Oh, it was in international law terms, it certainly was.

02:05:55.000 And that's why they were covering it up?

02:05:56.000 Yes.

02:05:58.000 The top secret plan involved allowing 200 mainly Australian combat troops to be air-bombed and sprayed with the chemical weapons.

02:06:08.000 And folks, they knew the atomic soldiers were all going to die.

02:06:10.000 They knew the uranium miners were going to die.

02:06:12.000 They took little babies and radiated thousands of them in the US.

02:06:17.000 I mean, there's even photo and film footage of it.

02:06:21.000 Stuff I wouldn't even put in Endgame.

02:06:23.000 I'm not putting three-year-olds who've been radiated in my film.

02:06:28.000 You think I exaggerate?

02:06:30.000 I don't show you the dead children! 0.98

02:06:35.000 But you need to go look it up yourself and look at them for yourself and then shut your mouth when you tell me I'm making stuff up. 1.00

02:06:43.000 I'm going to tell you again, cops and military, you are hated. 1.00

02:06:46.000 Henry Kissinger wrote a book calling you dumb animals. 1.00

02:06:49.000 I don't do that. 1.00

02:06:50.000 I tell you point blank to your face, you're being used.

02:06:52.000 And I'm telling you there's dead bodies in that basement.

02:06:55.000 I've seen them.

02:06:56.000 You understand I've got the documents, the facts, the eyewitnesses.

02:06:59.000 I have seen the dead bodies in John Wayne Gacy's basement.

02:07:02.000 So don't you tell me they're not there!

02:07:04.000 You go in there and you look for yourself and you look at those maggot-covered corpses instead of telling me I shouldn't get upset about it! 0.95

02:07:11.000 I'm sick of you not listening to me! 0.96

02:07:12.000 This isn't a joke!

02:07:14.000 I'm not risking my life to play games!

02:07:18.000 I want to play the Declaration of Independence, and it's got the actor introducing it, and I agree with him that it's the ideal that's so beautiful, that's inspired so many things.

02:07:27.000 Let's go ahead and play it, and we'll come back and play the rest of it.

02:07:29.000 Stay with us.

02:07:31.000 A group of politicians from the 13 American colonies come together in this building, right here, to plot what turns out to be a revolution.

02:07:42.000 A contentious Continental Congress needs to set forth some convincing reasons for declaring war.

02:07:49.000 Congress turns to a brilliant 33-year-old aristocrat from Virginia, Thomas Jefferson.

02:07:55.000 In a matter of days, the red-haired wonder writes one of the most celebrated manifestos for human freedom and self-government in the history of Western civilization.

02:08:07.000 The Continental Congress authorizes Philadelphia printer John Dunlap to print 200 broadsides, poster-sized sheets.

02:08:16.000 The document, unsigned, is then rushed to waiting horsemen who put it in their saddlebags and galloped throughout the colonies.

02:08:25.000 See, if this Revolutionary War is to be won, thousands of farmers and tradesmen must be persuaded to take up arms and fight.

02:08:34.000 And they do.

02:08:36.000 Not many people realize it today, but scholars believe Jefferson intended for the Declaration to be performed and not just read.

02:08:44.000 Its words and rhythms were written to be spoken in proud and defiant tones in grand public places.

02:08:52.000 It's a safe bet that the Continental Congress never had in mind a performer like me.

02:08:58.000 That is to say, a black man.

02:09:02.000 Thomas Jefferson was not ignorant of the problem of slavery, of course. 0.85

02:09:06.000 He called it a moral and political depravity.

02:09:09.000 And in the original draft of the Declaration denounced the slave trade, As a cruel war against human nature itself.

02:09:18.000 But Congress thought better of this particular item, and deleted it.

02:09:24.000 In fact, there was no mention of slavery, or black people, or of women for that matter, in this preeminent statement on the equal rights of man.

02:09:34.000 So it makes you wonder, how could a man who himself held slaves, Write with such incredible passion and eloquence about human liberation and the promise of a democratic republic.

02:09:48.000 Why, some may ask, do I bring up such embarrassing truths on this glorious occasion?

02:09:55.000 I answer.

02:09:57.000 The real glory of the Declaration of Independence has been our nation's epic struggle throughout history to close the gap between the ideals of this remarkable document And the sometimes painful realities of American life.

02:10:13.000 The Declaration symbolizes the birth of our nation, of course, but also the constant struggle to achieve its ideals.

02:10:23.000 Consider.

02:10:25.000 The words of this document inspired the French Revolution in 1789.

02:10:31.000 200 years later, the revolt of Chinese students in Tiananmen Square.

02:10:36.000 It inspired Abraham Lincoln to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, Martin Luther King Jr.

02:10:41.000 to fight for civil rights, and women's suffragettes to fight for the vote. 1.00

02:10:48.000 This business of fulfilling the Declaration of Independence is a difficult struggle, but it is also an ennobling struggle.

02:10:58.000 Jefferson called the Declaration an expression of the American mind.

02:11:04.000 It is why this nation is so great and why I am so proud to be an American.

02:11:11.000 Here now are those sentiments as first expressed in this very place.

02:11:21.000 When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth The separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitled them.

02:11:41.000 A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

02:11:50.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

02:12:03.000 That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

02:12:11.000 That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.

02:12:21.000 Laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to them, shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.

02:12:32.000 Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.

02:12:38.000 And accordingly, all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

02:12:50.000 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism.

02:13:01.000 It is their right.

02:13:02.000 It is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security.

02:13:10.000 Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.

02:13:21.000 The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations.

02:13:28.000 All having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states.

02:13:34.000 To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

02:13:39.000 He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

02:13:44.000 He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained.

02:13:53.000 And when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

02:13:57.000 He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable only to tyrants.

02:14:11.000 He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

02:14:25.000 He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

02:14:31.000 He has refused for a long time after such dissolutions to cause others to be elected.

02:14:38.000 Whereby the legislative powers incapable of annihilation have returned to the people at large for their exercise.

02:14:45.000 The state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without and convulsions within.

02:14:53.000 He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states.

02:14:57.000 For that purpose, obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

02:15:09.000 He has obstructed the administration of justice by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

02:15:17.000 He has made judges dependent on his will alone for the tenure of their offices and the amount and payment of their salaries.

02:15:24.000 He has erected a multitude of new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

02:15:32.000 He has kept among us in times of peace standing armies without the consent of our legislatures.

02:15:38.000 He has effected to render the military independent of and superior to the civil power.

02:15:44.000 He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws.

02:15:53.000 Giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation.

02:15:57.000 For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us.

02:16:00.000 For protecting them by a mock trial from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states.

02:16:08.000 For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world.

02:16:11.000 For imposing taxes on us without our consent.

02:16:14.000 For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of trial by jury.

02:16:19.000 For transporting us beyond seas.

02:16:21.000 To be tried for pretended offenses.

02:16:24.000 For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province.

02:16:28.000 Establishing therein an arbitrary government and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies.

02:16:42.000 For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments.

02:16:49.000 For suspending our own legislatures and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

02:16:59.000 He has abdicated government here by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.

02:17:06.000 He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

02:17:12.000 He is, at this time, transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny.

02:17:22.000 Already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy.

02:17:25.000 Scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages.

02:17:28.000 And totally unworthy of the head of a civilized nation.

02:17:31.000 He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas.

02:17:36.000 To bear arms against their country.

02:17:38.000 To become the executioners of their friends and brethren.

02:17:42.000 Or to fall themselves by their hands.

02:17:45.000 He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us. 0.91

02:17:48.000 and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions. 0.98

02:18:01.000 In every stage...

02:18:03.000 All right, I'm surprised Hollywood left that part in.

02:18:06.000 That's enough for now.

02:18:07.000 I'm going to come back and play the rest on the other side, but yeah, they would grab people for the draft, okay?

02:18:13.000 They would grab them out of the seaports and off the boats, and that's what the draft is, which are drafting soldiers that have already been in.

02:18:22.000 And when you go through that, they're doing every single thing, asset forfeiture, seizure, grabbing people's goods, saying they were criminals.

02:18:30.000 You know, swarms of new agents to eat out our substance.

02:18:33.000 You know, these administrative offices.

02:18:38.000 It's far worse now.

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02:24:10.000 Here it is, the end of the Declaration of Independence.

02:24:12.000 What really made this country so great?

02:24:14.000 Are we perfect?

02:24:15.000 No.

02:24:15.000 But were we better than everybody else?

02:24:17.000 Yes.

02:24:17.000 Now we've become the worst.

02:24:19.000 Kanae History Works.

02:24:22.000 A prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

02:24:31.000 Nor have we been wanting in attentions to our British brethren.

02:24:34.000 We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us.

02:24:41.000 We have reminded them of the circumstances of our immigration and settlement here.

02:24:45.000 We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity.

02:24:48.000 And we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.

02:24:57.000 They too have been deft to the voice of justice and of consanguinity.

02:25:02.000 We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace, friends.

02:25:14.000 We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, Appealing to the supreme judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do in the name and by authority of the good people of these colonies solemnly publish and declare that these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states.

02:25:41.000 That they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown.

02:25:45.000 And that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved.

02:25:52.000 And that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce.

02:26:02.000 And to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do.

02:26:08.000 And for the support of this declaration, Absolutely beautiful, folks.

02:26:29.000 That's all she wrote for this transmission.

02:26:31.000 Great job, folks at Genesis.

02:26:32.000 Great job to the crew down here.

02:26:34.000 I want to thank all the sponsors, affiliates, and listeners.

02:26:37.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - July 08, 2008

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