Alex Jones Show - 20080714_Mon_Alex

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00:00:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Well, we're very honored to have him with us for a full hour today to talk about a host of issues.

00:00:38.000 His take on the President giving Israel the green light to go ahead and attack Iran.

00:00:43.000 Almost all the analysts are now saying the attack is on in the next six months.

00:00:47.000 The plunging dollar, what's happening with the economy.

00:00:51.000 The Congress announcing there's no more Fourth Amendment and that's how it reads.

00:00:56.000 He has been speaking out against this for many years, and he is quite a leader when it comes to the issues of freedom.

00:01:05.000 He is former governor of Minnesota, of course Hollywood movie star, best-selling author, TV talk show host, the list goes on and on.

00:01:15.000 Quite the renaissance man.

00:01:16.000 Governor Jesse Ventura.

00:01:18.000 Governor, thanks for spending time with us today.

00:01:20.000 Hi Alex, how are you doing today?

00:01:22.000 I guess we'd say a sad day in America.

00:01:25.000 Yeah, I've always wondered what it was like for my grandparents to live through the Depression, and it looks like we might be going into one.

00:01:31.000 Yeah, there's no, you know, it was interesting the other day, I was watching on television up here, and one of the local stations, they have a segment called where you can ask a question, and the question was, how do we make a strong dollar again?

00:01:45.000 How do we get the dollar strong?

00:01:47.000 Because obviously the dollar has fallen through the floor.

00:01:50.000 I mean, there's half a dozen countries now that have a higher value or more than that than us.

00:01:55.000 And so they went to Hamlin University here in Minnesota, and they went to the head of economics and, oh, I forget his other title, but it was appropriate.

00:02:08.000 Please excuse me, I just got done working out, so if I'm breathing a little heavy, I just got off the elliptic machine.

00:02:13.000 Hey, that's great!

00:02:14.000 But anyway, he listed, in order to bring the dollar to be strong again, it's the exact two things that I've been harping on for the last month and a half.

00:02:24.000 Number one, to make the dollar strong, as Professor said, is the debt.

00:02:29.000 We must do something about the $9 trillion-plus debt we owe throughout the world now.

00:02:36.000 And he said the number two thing that is driving the dollar to its weakness is the war in Iraq.

00:02:42.000 So the very two issues that are highest on my board are the very two issues that this expert said it would take to bring the dollar back, but apparently our country and most of the people in it aren't that worried about it.

00:02:55.000 The elite have made the decision to continue the devaluation of the dollar.

00:02:55.000 You're right, Governor.

00:02:59.000 Obviously, having the high debt means people don't buy our securities.

00:03:03.000 So the dollar's devalued.

00:03:04.000 That's 70 plus percent of it.

00:03:05.000 The other 25 percent is, of course, the speculation being driven by the war drums for Iran.

00:03:12.000 You're absolutely right.

00:03:13.000 The professor's right.

00:03:14.000 The establishment knows that.

00:03:16.000 Why do you think they're not going to reverse the destruction of our currency?

00:03:19.000 Because I don't think they really care.

00:03:22.000 You know, they're making their money, and they're in their position.

00:03:26.000 To me, it's clear that there's a war on the middle class in America today, being waged by our own government.

00:03:34.000 They're out to destroy what was the American Dream, and the American Dream was really the middle class. 0.91

00:03:39.000 We were the country where you could go get a job, and you could support your family, and you could live a life with a fair dream.

00:03:47.000 That's being extinguished greatly today and it seems our elected illustrious officials don't have a problem with it.

00:03:54.000 Or they'll say they do, but what they do and what they say are generally two different things.

00:04:00.000 We're going to break in just a moment and come back within a long segment to go through a lot of important issues, Governor.

00:04:06.000 But first off, let's spend about a minute on your book.

00:04:09.000 It's doing quite well.

00:04:10.000 For those that don't know about your new book, tell us about it.

00:04:13.000 Well, it's called Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:04:16.000 I wrote it while I was living in Mexico with Dick Russell, a friend of mine and a writer.

00:04:20.000 I just felt it was time for a bit of a wake-up call to the United States.

00:04:25.000 I felt that way.

00:04:26.000 I'm probably not too mainstream today, I guess.

00:04:29.000 But I felt that we needed a wake-up call to get back to our roots and get back to paying attention to the Constitution and what formed our great country because we've certainly seemed to have taken a path away from the Constitution, especially most recently in the last eight years.

00:04:46.000 And we don't seem to be heading back towards it, so I thought it was a wake-up call for the lemmings here in the country that march off the cliff and don't look side to side, they just do it. 1.00

00:04:55.000 Absolutely, Governor.

00:04:56.000 Fantastic.

00:04:58.000 Stay there.

00:04:59.000 Back in three quick minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura.

00:05:02.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

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00:05:07.000 9-11 was an inside job. 0.56

00:05:10.000 You like being a puppet, sir.

00:05:11.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

00:05:13.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

00:05:16.000 was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Thralateral Commission, the C.A.F.R.

00:05:20.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of desperatism to grow at our own door.

00:05:29.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

00:05:34.000 Inside y'all!

00:05:35.000 An inside job?

00:05:38.000 How dare you?

00:05:40.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

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00:08:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:26.000 Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest.

00:08:31.000 New book out on the New York Times bestseller list.

00:08:34.000 Don't start the revolution without me.

00:08:36.000 He's with us for the rest of the hour.

00:08:38.000 Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're going to do something we haven't done on the other two interviews with him.

00:08:41.000 We've been lucky enough to have.

00:08:43.000 And that's take some of your phone calls specifically to the Governor.

00:08:46.000 about his take on what's happening in our society at 1-800-259-9231.

00:08:49.000 Governor, I want to pick your brain about the war, the economy, the Fourth Amendment under attack, all these issues, but obviously you know what I'm going to ask first here, now that we're into the interview.

00:09:04.000 And I've learned to not trust the mainstream media.

00:09:07.000 Last week, I called you at home and you said, no, I did not tell NPR that I had committed to run.

00:09:15.000 I'll announce that next Monday or Tuesday.

00:09:17.000 Sure enough, the ABC headline said, Governor will run.

00:09:20.000 I went and listened to the interview.

00:09:21.000 You said, if I decide to run, here is why I will run.

00:09:24.000 Then ABC had to retract.

00:09:26.000 No, I guess it's accurate.

00:09:27.000 Everybody tells me I will tonight.

00:09:28.000 I guess it's kind of out of my hands.

00:09:30.000 I don't want to go off what the news is saying.

00:09:32.000 Other news is reporting that you're going to announce either way tonight on Larry King.

00:09:36.000 A, is that accurate, or will it be tomorrow?

00:09:39.000 No, I guess it's accurate.

00:09:41.000 Everybody tells me I will tonight, so, you know.

00:09:44.000 I guess it's kind of out of my hands.

00:09:48.000 I don't want to be called a liar.

00:09:51.000 Amazing.

00:09:52.000 Well, how could ABC run that headline that you announced last Thursday when NPR's headline said, Why Governor Ventura May Run?

00:10:03.000 I mean, how could ABC just make that up?

00:10:06.000 Well, they'd make everything up, you know.

00:10:08.000 They're in the business for money.

00:10:10.000 They're in the business of ratings.

00:10:11.000 And so if they can beat all the other networks to the punch, they're going to do it.

00:10:16.000 And accuracy is a secondary thing now.

00:10:18.000 I mean, if they get it wrong, They just simply do a little blurb a day later if they have to, and most of the time they won't even bother with that.

00:10:27.000 Governor, you kind of came out for 9-11 Truth on this show unannounced.

00:10:33.000 I had no idea you were going to do that four or five months ago, and that caused a national firestorm.

00:10:39.000 Why not go ahead and tell us if you're going to run for Senate right now on this show?

00:10:48.000 Because it's the middle of the afternoon and I don't want to be sieged with the media for the rest of the day.

00:10:54.000 Is that a good answer?

00:10:55.000 That is a good one, but let me make a guess.

00:10:57.000 And then the point is, if I say it right now, that's what'll happen.

00:11:01.000 I think I'd rather say it this evening where I can, like a good Navy SEAL, run off in the shadows and disappear.

00:11:07.000 Well, here is my take on it.

00:11:11.000 You wrote a book saying, don't start the revolution without me.

00:11:13.000 I'm sure you've decided it's now the eve of, or the day of, you making the announcement, the eve of the deadline, to be technical.

00:11:20.000 And I'm going to make the guess, and it's not a wild guess, in fact I'm going to predict, you're going to announce you're running for Senate.

00:11:26.000 And this is why you're going to announce you're running for Senate tonight on Larry King, because you love this country.

00:11:31.000 You saw him shoot down the Fourth Amendment last week.

00:11:33.000 You see us about to go to war with Iran that will further tank the economy. 1.00

00:11:38.000 You know we need your voice in the Senate, and you love this republic, and so you're going to serve the republic one more time, and you know you've already beaten the sorry excuse for a human being for governor that's running for Senate as well, and so you've been drafted by the American people, and we're not going to start the revolution without Oh, Alex, Alex, you might be premature.

00:11:58.000 Don't go that far.

00:11:59.000 for the Senate, Jesse Ventura, and we all know it, aren't you?

00:12:01.000 Oh, Alex, Alex, you might be premature.

00:12:05.000 Don't go that far.

00:12:06.000 Wait till Larry King tonight.

00:12:08.000 Well, then, you better announce you're running for Senate.

00:12:11.000 What do you mean I better?

00:12:14.000 Well, you've got higher numbers in the polls this time.

00:12:17.000 I understand all that, but let me say this, Alex.

00:12:19.000 It will be a total personal decision, and my family will bear in it a great deal, because you cannot do one of those jobs without the support of your family.

00:12:29.000 And if my family's support is not there, I will not do it, because... Well, I'll give you one example.

00:12:36.000 I'm not going to subject my children to be attacked by the media again.

00:12:40.000 That weighs heavily on me, so what my children say to me is going to have a great bearing on the decision that I make.

00:12:47.000 Have they said it?

00:12:48.000 I mean, have you made your decision?

00:12:50.000 Not quite yet.

00:12:51.000 I have another child to speak with.

00:12:55.000 Well, I would like to speak to them and say, look, we need you to gut up for the country.

00:13:01.000 I mean, I understand they went through a lot.

00:13:02.000 In fact, when We Are Change Minnesota was up there talking to you at a book signing, you would talk to them, but you wouldn't talk to the media.

00:13:09.000 You don't talk to the Minnesota media.

00:13:11.000 Why is that?

00:13:12.000 I don't talk to them because they attacked my children when I was governor.

00:13:16.000 The story and the way it went down was I had left to go on the largest trade mission in U.S.

00:13:22.000 history to China.

00:13:23.000 I led a trade mission to China from Minnesota.

00:13:26.000 And none of the media here bothered to send anyone on the trade mission.

00:13:30.000 It was the June before the following fall's re-election.

00:13:34.000 And so none of them chose to go on the trade mission.

00:13:39.000 And here I'm doing something that will directly benefit every person eventually in the state of Minnesota.

00:13:45.000 Instead, they went out and trumped up a big story on my son.

00:13:49.000 There was a disgruntled employee that we fired who decided to get his 15 minutes of fame.

00:13:55.000 And he accused my son of underage drinking in the governor's residence.

00:14:00.000 Well, first of all, my son was 22.

00:14:02.000 So I find that a bit peculiar because nowhere in this country are you underage at 22.

00:14:10.000 Second of all, the media didn't bother to question this employee at all.

00:14:14.000 They didn't ask him the very simple question, Alex.

00:14:18.000 He went home every day at 5 o'clock.

00:14:20.000 How would he know what went on at midnight?

00:14:23.000 They ran with the story, they trashed my son completely, they put the CBS investigative eye team onto his friends to try to dig up anything they could on my son, and then the day I got back from the trade mission from China, the headlines in the paper were nothing to do with the trade mission, it had everything to do with accusing my son. 0.96

00:14:46.000 Well, I'll tell you why they did that, Governor, and you're not stupid. 0.96

00:14:48.000 You know why. 0.93

00:14:49.000 You literally led the pack on third rail politics.

00:14:54.000 You scare the establishment.

00:14:55.000 That's why you had 25 CIA agents there at the Capitol when you showed up on the first week.

00:15:02.000 That's why ABC preemptively announced that you're going to run, trying to steal your thunder.

00:15:07.000 They're scared of you.

00:15:08.000 They don't want you to run.

00:15:10.000 You know that.

00:15:11.000 And I'm telling you, you can't give in to them.

00:15:13.000 So I'm asking you, as the American people, We need your anti-war, pro-constitution voice in the Senate, and I think you're going to win if you run.

00:15:22.000 Yeah, but Alex, we're a great minority.

00:15:25.000 We're a minority, we're not a majority.

00:15:28.000 Well, a minority of, you know, one who's in the right is a majority.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, you got a point there.

00:15:39.000 And it's very difficult, you know.

00:15:43.000 Running will put a great deal of stress on my marriage, probably, because my wife wants nothing to do with politics. 1.00

00:15:51.000 She never did and never will.

00:15:53.000 And so it's really, I'd go at it as a loner if I do.

00:15:56.000 Plus, living on the side of a jungle wall by the Pacific Ocean half the year, I would imagine that is something that's hard to say no to, isn't it?

00:16:06.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 Yep.

00:16:08.000 Sure is.

00:16:10.000 So, anyway, we'll find out tonight on Larry King.

00:16:13.000 So, you will announce one way or the other tonight?

00:16:16.000 Yep.

00:16:17.000 Talk about building suspense.

00:16:20.000 Well, it all kind of started with Larry so I figured that it should either explode with Larry or end with Larry, however it goes.

00:16:28.000 Yeah, let it end or let it grow from where it started.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:33.000 Because it all started April 1st when I came back from Mexico and started my book tour.

00:16:37.000 And the first show I did was Larry Kane.

00:16:39.000 You're trying to build suspense.

00:16:41.000 I do believe you're going to call that final child.

00:16:43.000 How many children do you have?

00:16:44.000 Two.

00:16:46.000 Well, one of them is the one that woke you up to 9-11, you said.

00:16:49.000 So, I mean, he's got to be on board with fighting the globalists.

00:16:54.000 Well, he's the one I've got to talk to.

00:16:56.000 Oh, he's going to say, Dad, get in there and fight the New World Order.

00:17:00.000 Well, we'll see.

00:17:01.000 Well, he's got to make the sacrifice.

00:17:04.000 I mean, I know that you're his dad, but we need you too, Governor.

00:17:08.000 I know.

00:17:09.000 I know.

00:17:10.000 Well, let's say this, and this is the same question they twisted, but we'll be clear here.

00:17:14.000 If you do run, why are you going to run?

00:17:16.000 If you do run for the U.S.

00:17:17.000 Senate, why is Governor Jesse Ventura going to do that?

00:17:20.000 Well, if I did run, I would run because we have to get some type of hold and bring the attention to this deficit.

00:17:27.000 You notice in the presidential debates right now, they avoid the deficit like the plague, because They're equally responsible for it, both Democrats and Republicans.

00:17:36.000 They want to pretend it's not there.

00:17:39.000 They don't want to talk about it.

00:17:40.000 They don't want to tell the public that they've put our country so far in debt that if they were in the private sector, they'd be thrown in jail and run and WorldCom ring a bell.

00:17:51.000 And that's the one reason.

00:17:54.000 And then now the war, the pounding of the war drums.

00:17:57.000 I mean, we are now a first-strike nation.

00:18:00.000 9-11 changed our entire foreign policy.

00:18:03.000 We will now attack another country before they attack us. 0.99

00:18:08.000 Which we proved in Iraq, because Iraq never did a thing. 1.00

00:18:11.000 If you believe the government story on 9-11, there wasn't one Iraqi involved in it.

00:18:17.000 So why did we attack Iraq? 0.70

00:18:19.000 And so throughout the world today, many places view us as the people to fear.

00:18:25.000 You know, many countries feel that the United States is the one you've got to be afraid of, because if you cross the United States, the United States is not above attacking you.

00:18:35.000 And I think that's sad.

00:18:36.000 And I think that as the leader of the free world, you should not lead with a big stick.

00:18:42.000 I think diplomacy is much better.

00:18:45.000 You notice the Chinese, other than their internal strife, they're not going out and getting involved in any of these wars throughout the world.

00:18:52.000 Why?

00:18:53.000 Because they want to become the economic power of the world. 1.00

00:18:56.000 That's their focus and they're vast becoming it very quickly because we're so stupid and we're out getting involved in all these wars. 0.99

00:19:03.000 You know, that's a great point, Governor. 0.98

00:19:06.000 Studying history, every time, I mean, nine times out of ten, Napoleon, Hitler, it didn't matter who, the aggressor, the Nazis, they always, no matter how big and bad, they always, in the end, tend to lose. 0.87

00:19:22.000 Well, I think, go back even farther, I think our country right now is paralleling Rome.

00:19:29.000 I think we're heading right down the same path Rome did, and that is entertainment is the most important thing in our lives now, not our jobs.

00:19:38.000 It's how do we entertain ourselves.

00:19:40.000 Clearly that was shown when the media, rather than covering issues, will cover the death of Anna Nicole Smith or Paris Hilton getting thrown in jail.

00:19:50.000 These are their lead stories, which are nothing but entertainment stories.

00:19:54.000 I tell you what, Governor, let's talk more about that.

00:19:56.000 In fact, I'm going to skip this break.

00:19:58.000 We're going to skip this break here for the folks watching online.

00:20:01.000 Here we go.

00:20:05.000 Okay, Governor, we are still on air.

00:20:07.000 I want to just skip that break.

00:20:09.000 Last minute, continue with the point about... Well, you notice that the media, and then the media claims that's what we want.

00:20:15.000 They say they're only fulfilling what the public demands of them.

00:20:18.000 Well, is that truly what our public wants?

00:20:21.000 That they want national inquiry, inquirer journalism on the evening news every night?

00:20:27.000 I mean, the news today, I think, would make Walter Cronkite throw up.

00:20:31.000 Well, I totally agree with you.

00:20:33.000 I totally agree with you.

00:20:34.000 But also, not just parallels with Rome, what about two hundred and thirty-something years ago, the parallels with the British Empire, never been defeated, and the first place they get beaten is here in the United States, fighting five to one against the ragtag rebels?

00:20:49.000 Well, you know, it's interesting, too, that we look at this war in Iraq now, and we call them insurgents, these people that are fighting us.

00:20:58.000 And yet if you go, let's go back to the movie Red Dawn for a moment.

00:21:01.000 Remember that great movie with Patrick Swayze where it was the hypothetical situation the United States was invaded?

00:21:08.000 Sure, Charlie Sheen's in it.

00:21:09.000 Sure, Patrick and the Wolverines were the young kids that went up in the mountains of Colorado and were battling them left and right.

00:21:16.000 We watched the film and were cheering them on.

00:21:19.000 You know, America, go get them. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Look at it today.

00:21:24.000 We would call Patrick Swayze and his group insurgents today.

00:21:29.000 And we would be the occupiers.

00:21:32.000 I think that's horrible.

00:21:34.000 We're now the occupiers and the insurgents are the enemy.

00:21:38.000 Well that's why we need a voice like you in the Senate. 0.58

00:21:41.000 Because even the Democrats that are against the war are kind of half-heartedly doing it.

00:21:45.000 We need an independent voice in there who can really get the attention. 0.51

00:21:48.000 I don't believe the Democrats are against the war.

00:21:51.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:21:53.000 They just pretend to be, exactly.

00:21:55.000 They pretend to be.

00:21:56.000 But they're for it, too.

00:21:57.000 You notice now that Barack Obama's even hedging.

00:22:00.000 You know, at first he was, I'm going to pull us out as soon as I get in there.

00:22:05.000 Well, now all of a sudden it's hedge time.

00:22:08.000 Because he's being told by the powers, I guess, that you can't do that.

00:22:11.000 That you can't pull us out.

00:22:13.000 That we're there.

00:22:14.000 That it's going to be another Korea. 0.99

00:22:16.000 We're going to occupy this country for long, long into the future.

00:22:19.000 Well, that's the point that I've been trying to make, is that Barack Obama, for outward consumption, said he would try to end the war, but then the elites that are backing him put out press releases saying, don't worry, he's our boy, and then his foreign policy advisor and several others were at a big summit in Canada on globalism and so-called free trade.

00:22:41.000 And you know, trying to end NAFTA and GATT, and Barack Obama's people said, don't worry, he's only saying that for the public.

00:22:48.000 And that's why I'm telling people Barack Obama is a Trojan horse.

00:22:51.000 That's why I wish you were running for president.

00:22:54.000 Well, like I've always maintained, Alex, you're not going to see change with a Democrat, you're not going to see change with a Republican.

00:23:02.000 The only way change happens in this country is to elect an independent, and this country won't do it.

00:23:09.000 You know, they're too entrenched with the two-party system, and it's too difficult to break through that, because it's very hard, because not only does the two-party system, the two-headed snake, control our government, but they also control all the rules, and it's very, very difficult to beat anybody when they can change the rules at halftime.

00:23:30.000 Well, a great example of that, I'm going to ask you that when we come back to the full audience.

00:23:34.000 We're just on the web right now during the break.

00:23:36.000 When we come back to the full audience, I want to ask you about Ron Paul and how he was winning delegates in some states and the Republicans would just come out and say, you know what, it doesn't count.

00:23:45.000 We're just going to ignore the process.

00:23:46.000 So I want to get your take on that and also any other subjects you want to cover.

00:23:50.000 We're also going to take some phone calls for you as well, Governor.

00:23:54.000 We're coming back into the main broadcast right now.

00:23:57.000 During the breaks, we're just for the internet audience, so we don't waste any of your precious time.

00:24:01.000 Here we go.

00:24:03.000 Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest.

00:24:13.000 He's got us all in suspense, spellbound here.

00:24:15.000 He'll be announcing tonight on Larry King Live whether he's going to run for the U.S.

00:24:20.000 Senate or not.

00:24:21.000 He's got almost a double-digit lead compared to what he even had when he first announced against the same individual that's running for Senate.

00:24:30.000 He was behind the fellow in the past.

00:24:32.000 He's now ahead of him.

00:24:34.000 And I think even with some of the chicanery with the voting machines, Governor Ventura would win by such a margin, and his views are so popular. 1.00

00:24:41.000 You know, Governor Ventura, I actually disagree with some of what you said here today.

00:24:44.000 You keep saying that we're in the minority.

00:24:46.000 We are in the majority with our views.

00:24:49.000 Every poll shows that.

00:24:50.000 It's just that I guess you're right that we're in the minority when it comes to people in the power structure, because they are 180 degrees in the other direction of what the people want or what the Constitution and Bill of Rights has to say.

00:25:03.000 What do you say to that?

00:25:04.000 Well, you may be right.

00:25:05.000 I don't know.

00:25:06.000 I don't claim to know everything.

00:25:09.000 Maybe we aren't the minority, but if we are the majority, we certainly seem to be silent.

00:25:16.000 I mean, there's only a few people talking out.

00:25:19.000 Most people are afraid to say anything about 9-11.

00:25:23.000 You know, they think you're crazy if you do.

00:25:25.000 Well, since you bring that up, you've been attacked by a lot of establishment people, but you've also gotten a lot of support in the polls show.

00:25:33.000 The majority of Americans believe they've been lied to about the story.

00:25:37.000 I mean, obviously, you told the truth about 9-11.

00:25:41.000 Why did you decide to take that plunge?

00:25:45.000 Well, you know, when I started, and I really didn't take the plunge.

00:25:48.000 I simply asked questions that That to me have not been adequately answered.

00:25:54.000 Uh, you know, and I consider myself a demolition expert because I spent, you know, four years on active duty in the Navy as a member of the underwater demolition team.

00:26:04.000 I was trained by the best demolition men the United States has.

00:26:08.000 And every time I watch those buildings come down now over and over again, and I look at a building that's been demolitioned, they're identical.

00:26:18.000 You know, when you watch them fall, but yet, if you bring that up or state that, right away you're considered crazy.

00:26:26.000 And how dare you make a statement like that?

00:26:28.000 How dare you be so un-American? 1.00

00:26:30.000 How dare you?

00:26:31.000 And it goes on and on and on.

00:26:33.000 I'll tell you what, Alex.

00:26:34.000 You take the line for a minute.

00:26:36.000 I've got to run across to my desk because there's something I want to read on your show.

00:26:40.000 Absolutely.

00:26:40.000 Take your time.

00:26:41.000 Take your time, Governor.

00:26:43.000 We've got him for the rest of the hour, folks.

00:26:44.000 In the next segment, we're going to take a few of your calls, but they need to be for the Governor about the issues we're discussing.

00:26:50.000 9-11, the war, the economy.

00:26:53.000 But here comes Governor Ventura back from his desk.

00:26:56.000 There's something he wants to read for us.

00:27:02.000 Think about it.

00:27:02.000 Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, the former German Defense Minister, high-level members of the Japanese Parliament, the former Italian President, coming out and questioning the official story, or coming right out and saying it's an inside job.

00:27:14.000 I mean, you cannot downplay this, but the establishment trumps.

00:27:22.000 Governor?

00:27:24.000 Ah, here we go.

00:27:24.000 I got it here.

00:27:25.000 I finally found it.

00:27:26.000 Got it on the wrong desk.

00:27:29.000 I want to read this, Alex.

00:27:32.000 And then I want to ask your general audience.

00:27:34.000 It'll be a good segue to go maybe to callers.

00:27:37.000 But this is a quote by a pretty famous person.

00:27:41.000 And when you hear it, it really, to me, parallels the last eight years of thought process here in the United States, where I've been saying that I'm kind of out of the loop now, or it seems that I am.

00:27:54.000 I'll just read it, okay?

00:27:55.000 Here it is.

00:27:56.000 Quote, Naturally, the common people don't want war.

00:28:01.000 But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy.

00:28:06.000 And it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

00:28:17.000 Voice or no voice, The people always can be brought to the bidding of the leaders.

00:28:23.000 This is easy.

00:28:25.000 All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.

00:28:36.000 Now, Alex, do you agree that that seems to be the mental philosophy we've had here since 9-11?

00:28:42.000 Yes, and that's Herman Goering, head of the Luftwaffe.

00:28:45.000 You know your stuff well.

00:28:46.000 That's Herman Goering.

00:28:48.000 A quote from a Nazi. 0.57

00:28:50.000 Now it troubles me greatly when I start looking at philosophy and how our government seems to be operating, and when it starts paralleling Nazis?

00:29:01.000 Isn't that about time the flag should fly up for us as citizens?

00:29:06.000 You're right, and there's no doubt.

00:29:08.000 I mean, even the... Hitler didn't just attack Poland, he staged an attack on their own military base, and later admitted it, or firebombed his own Reichstag to get his police state going, and we see last week the Democrats, supposedly are so good, no, they said, yeah, we're against the Fourth Amendment.

00:29:27.000 Well, to repeat for all of us to know, what's the Fourth Amendment again, Alex?

00:29:31.000 That is the fact that they have to have a warrant and witnesses to search you or tap your phone.

00:29:39.000 Yeah, and the Democrats voted last week to continue that policy, that they don't have to, that they could invade your privacy and literally disregard the Fourth Amendment.

00:29:49.000 We'll be right back, Governor.

00:29:54.000 We're on the march.

00:29:55.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:57.000 Alex Jones and the GDN... Alright.

00:30:00.000 Repeat for all of us to know, what's the Fourth Amendment again, Alex?

00:30:04.000 That is the fact that they have to have a warrant and witnesses to search you or tap your phone.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, and the Democrats voted last week to continue that policy, that they don't have to, that they could invade your privacy and literally disregard the Fourth Amendment.

00:30:21.000 We'll be right back, Governor.

00:30:26.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

00:30:30.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:32:34.000 On September 11, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to Ground Zero, and we knew what to do.

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00:33:03.000 I already really liked Jesse Ventura since I was a kid growing up watching Predator and the Running Man.

00:33:19.000 We even watched him some on wrestling.

00:33:24.000 Rolling around laughing.

00:33:25.000 I always liked the villains.

00:33:27.000 But he, in reality, he's the good guy.

00:33:29.000 And then, when he came on my show and talked about 9-11 being an inside job, you know, I'd met him before that.

00:33:38.000 When he questioned the official story of 9-11.

00:33:42.000 Really, his stock went up to 100% for me.

00:33:45.000 Right up there, really, even past Ron Paul.

00:33:47.000 Ron Paul has said that he thinks they may stage attacks, or may stage Gulf of Tonkins, or that they may have let it happen, but he just won't come out and say that it looks like a controlled demolition for political reasons.

00:33:58.000 I really respect Governor Jesse Ventura, and even if he doesn't announce he's running for Senate tonight on Larry King Live, you better believe I'll be watching.

00:34:05.000 Hope you're watching.

00:34:07.000 He's done his duty coming out on the show, Question 9-11, speaking out against the police state and everything else he's done.

00:34:14.000 Before we go back to your calls, Governor Ventura, you were speaking about the parallels with Nazi Germany and with what we're seeing in this country today.

00:34:27.000 Please finish your thoughts on that.

00:34:29.000 Well, you know, Alex, it troubles me when you, for the last eight years, you can take a quote like I read from Herman Goering and apply it to the United States of America because that's exactly what we've been told.

00:34:43.000 We've been told we were attacked.

00:34:45.000 Which all of us saw, and of course, maybe we were, maybe we weren't.

00:34:50.000 Only they know for sure, I guess.

00:34:53.000 And second of all, this nonsense about, you know, people need to remember what Thomas Jefferson said.

00:34:59.000 He said dissension is the greatest form of patriotism.

00:35:02.000 And in our republic, that is true.

00:35:04.000 But yet, in the last eight years, we've had it pounded into our heads that if you dissent, you're unpatriotic.

00:35:11.000 That if you don't go along to get along, you're unpatriotic.

00:35:15.000 And then they try to hit you with, if you don't support everything we're doing, you're against the troops.

00:35:19.000 Well, that is not true.

00:35:21.000 I'm a veteran.

00:35:22.000 And to me, supporting the troops means not sending them in harm's way, unless it's vital or absolutely necessary.

00:35:30.000 And in my opinion, the Iraq War was certainly not vital and it certainly wasn't necessary.

00:35:36.000 And I support our troops by bringing them home.

00:35:39.000 Who, you know, to quote John Kerry after Vietnam, who will be the last man to die in Iraq?

00:35:47.000 Well, you're right.

00:35:48.000 We also have this hiding behind the flag, which is particularly despicable.

00:35:53.000 They always say the flag is the last refuge of tyrants.

00:35:57.000 Patriotism is the last refuge of tyrants and thugs.

00:36:02.000 And they're the ones that promised the troops they'd be home in six months and knew they'd be there for a decade in their own Pentagon plans.

00:36:08.000 They're the ones that want to just destabilize the region, not bring democracy, as they say, publicly.

00:36:15.000 And it's just so despicable to see them continue over and over again to get away with this and then have the nerve.

00:36:23.000 Bill O'Reilly goes on TV, it's a talking point on Fox and other places, and says, once the war starts you're to shut your mouth and you don't have any say when I thought the troops were fighting so that we'd have a say.

00:36:35.000 And then you have 75% or more of all the donations from the troops And you know what gets me to Alex?

00:36:42.000 Exactly what you said.

00:36:43.000 anti-war candidate.

00:36:44.000 I mean, the majority of the troops in major polls are against the war.

00:36:48.000 So how dare these chicken hawks claim that we're not allowed to criticize this illegal war? 0.95

00:36:55.000 And you know what gets me, too, Alex, exactly what you said, these chicken hawks.

00:37:00.000 Because the majority of the great war supporters of this country are the very people who they themselves would never put themselves in the line of danger, would never put a uniform on, and And I'm talking about our current Commander-in-Chief, George W. Bush.

00:37:18.000 He leads the way.

00:37:19.000 Dick Cheney with, what, five deferments during Vietnam.

00:37:24.000 Our own illustrious Norm Coleman, the senator from Minnesota, who was a huge war protester at Hofstra University when he was back in college, when his little Heinger was on the line, and when he might have to go to war, he wanted no part of it.

00:37:39.000 But today, this guy's rubber-stamped everything with the war, and he's got a kid who's of age to go serve.

00:37:46.000 Do you think his kid's in the military heading to Iraq?

00:37:49.000 Absolutely not.

00:37:50.000 Well, Karl Rove's son lives right here in Austin and he's of military age and we don't see him going.

00:37:57.000 Speaking of that, George Bush has a lower approval rating than Nixon.

00:38:01.000 Congress has a 9% approval rating in a scientific poll, the lowest since polling began a century ago.

00:38:06.000 I mean, this government is completely illegitimate.

00:38:10.000 More the reason we need you there in the Senate.

00:38:13.000 As the speaker, so the world knows that the people aren't for this war.

00:38:18.000 I mean, if we don't punish the Democratic and Republican leaders that took us into this illegal war, then it really does hang around our neck.

00:38:25.000 We really are guilty of these war crimes. 0.97

00:38:28.000 But if we punish them, then we get some of our name and good faith back.

00:38:33.000 What would you... I mean, are you for impeachment of Bush?

00:38:35.000 Karl Rove, I don't know if you know this, fled the U.S.

00:38:37.000 last week.

00:38:38.000 There was a congressional subpoena.

00:38:40.000 He's been indicted now.

00:38:41.000 He's fled the U.S.

00:38:43.000 Your take on them being indicted or on impeachment?

00:38:47.000 Well, I'll put it to you this way, Alex.

00:38:49.000 I get very concerned and I get very confused in my country today when cheating on your wife is an impeachable offense, but going to an illegal war and killing thousands of people isn't.

00:39:06.000 I'm still trying to figure that one out.

00:39:07.000 See, that's what I mean.

00:39:08.000 I'm not mainstream.

00:39:11.000 Most people in this country had no problem when Bill Clinton got impeached for cheating on his wife.

00:39:16.000 Which to me, I don't condone it, but I don't care, just like right now.

00:39:22.000 The other reason that I probably won't fit in good is I'm not religious enough to hold office in this country anymore.

00:39:30.000 I don't have a minister, I don't go to church.

00:39:33.000 So, therefore, I probably don't have the type of values that they want to see in public office.

00:39:38.000 Well, at least you're not a fake, and that's what matters. 0.96

00:39:41.000 I mean, I'm sure you've read about the gay porn stars being shipped into the Bohemian Grove and into the White House mainstream news and how the Republican senators are always caught in bathrooms. 0.98

00:39:52.000 You and I are going to differ on that. 0.97

00:39:54.000 and of course they're all big church goers now i think people want a jesse ventura uh...

00:39:58.000 you know even if you're not religious like they are because they just want somebody who's a straight shooter they're tired of the crap you want to know to agree with that either alex company you and i have got a good job that i don't believe that people of this country to want the truth do you want a good example Tell me.

00:40:16.000 People say they want the truth.

00:40:18.000 They stand up and they say they do.

00:40:20.000 But when push comes to shove, I think they more want to be told what they want to hear rather than the truth.

00:40:25.000 Case in point, Jose Canseco.

00:40:28.000 He was the only baseball player who was telling the truth about the rampant use of steroids.

00:40:34.000 And they got mad at him.

00:40:35.000 They got mad at him and now he's been vindicated.

00:40:37.000 Go ahead.

00:40:38.000 Right, but the point is the public, the media, and the whole country hated Jose Canseco even after the truth came out.

00:40:47.000 They're still dogging him.

00:40:49.000 They still won't give him his due.

00:40:51.000 They still won't say, gee Jose, we owe you an apology.

00:40:55.000 You were telling the truth.

00:40:58.000 I know you spoke out against steroids and how dangerous they are.

00:41:02.000 Well, to me, but it's irrelevant.

00:41:04.000 You know, if baseball players want to use them, that's baseball's business.

00:41:08.000 We don't need government hearings on it.

00:41:10.000 The point is they went after him and persecuted him when he was telling the truth.

00:41:14.000 Exactly.

00:41:15.000 You know, in the words of Jack Nicholson and a few good men, I don't believe you can't handle, not you Alex, but the quote, you can't handle the truth.

00:41:25.000 No, no, I agree.

00:41:26.000 I was saying the quote.

00:41:27.000 Yeah.

00:41:28.000 I think that there's a great deal of honesty in that quote.

00:41:32.000 In fact, I want that as a soundbite.

00:41:33.000 Governor, will you please say that again?

00:41:35.000 You can't handle the truth.

00:41:37.000 But I'm stealing that from Jack Nicholson.

00:41:40.000 Absolutely.

00:41:41.000 No, but that is it.

00:41:42.000 But I think that's starting to change.

00:41:43.000 You're right.

00:41:44.000 You know, we had milk and honey for so long.

00:41:46.000 Our ancestors built, you know, this continent, carved it out.

00:41:50.000 They weren't perfect, but they were sure, you know, daring and hardworking and piratical.

00:41:54.000 And then now, Uh, we got fat and decadent, and thought that evil and corruption was cute, and I think the people are going to find out now with the economy that it's not cute.

00:42:04.000 Well, you know what I'm, you know what I'm, you know, and I hate to say this, Alex, but you know what I'm happy about today?

00:42:09.000 And it's a sad thing to be happy about.

00:42:12.000 What's that, Governor?

00:42:13.000 I'm happy that the people of America and their economy now are feeling some pain because of this war.

00:42:19.000 The problem with this war from day one was that it took five years for the pain to get here.

00:42:25.000 But now the pain has arrived because this war plays a big part in the horrible shape that our economy's in today.

00:42:33.000 And it's taken this long and prices of $4 to $5 a gallon for gas to finally reach home with the American people that maybe it'll wake them up and tell them that war is not a good thing, that war is not a profit maker, that it doesn't help your economy.

00:42:50.000 In fact, it does the opposite.

00:42:52.000 It destroys the economy.

00:42:55.000 Well, I agree with you, and as you said, the top economist, it's very simple.

00:43:01.000 Dollar devaluation because of excess government spending and the banks creating too much liquidity, as well as the war driving speculation, Is what is bringing us down into what mainstream media is now saying could be a depression.

00:43:16.000 But still, you hear the neocons on radio saying, let's blow the hell out of Iran.

00:43:21.000 And I've talked to liquor store owners and pizza place owners I know.

00:43:25.000 They say that whenever there's a war, a bombardment, that they sell out of liquor and pizza.

00:43:31.000 And these men go home and like feel some manly extension off of seeing cluster bombs being dropped on children.

00:43:38.000 And actually I was thinking that this morning.

00:43:41.000 In a sick way, all these decadent people that love the lies, love being bullies, love being part of this evil, do they think the way the universe works that they can be supporting all this evil and that it isn't going to blow back on them?

00:43:53.000 I don't know, but I've always believed what goes around comes around, Alex.

00:44:00.000 And we're going to get our comeuppance, I think, pretty quick here.

00:44:05.000 If we don't change the path we're going on and start leading with diplomacy, that's the one thing I did like about Barack Obama, where he said that he would talk to our enemies, and yet he took all the heat for that.

00:44:16.000 I don't understand why you get heat for talking with your enemy.

00:44:21.000 You can always fight him.

00:44:23.000 Fighting him is always the option.

00:44:24.000 That's the last option and it always remains out there.

00:44:28.000 But as I said, it should be the last option.

00:44:31.000 A war is the result of failed political leadership.

00:44:35.000 It's that simple.

00:44:36.000 So all you people out there that are listening, George Bush is failed political leadership.

00:44:42.000 That's why we're at war.

00:44:45.000 It's amazing.

00:44:46.000 I want to take a few calls here with you, Governor Ventura, but in the 15 minutes we've got left, any other key points or things you want to impart to this audience?

00:44:56.000 No, not really.

00:44:57.000 Just hopefully the wake-up call that people better start standing up and better start speaking out because, you know, I'm getting tired of doing it.

00:45:06.000 And standing alone.

00:45:07.000 Remember my second book, Alex, was Do I Stand Alone?

00:45:10.000 And I'm excusing you.

00:45:11.000 You're the one voice out there.

00:45:13.000 now now hold on and i know how it is to be frustrated but and i'm excuse you you're the one voice out there you take a tremendous amount of heat yourself and i commend you for having the courage to continue what you do Oh no sir, I commend you, we appreciate you, but let me just... Oh no, Alex, you're doing just as much as me, because you're on the air every day.

00:45:34.000 i'm not on the air every day well i just want to say this there is a tide in the fortunes of men when they know taken at the flood or i'm getting that uh...

00:45:44.000 backwards there is a tide in the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune that's a julius caesar quote there is a time the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune the the fortune you and i are after is liberty and freedom for our children and grandchildren our prodigy uh...

00:46:01.000 our progeny to come And so I'm saying to you, you came early.

00:46:05.000 You came before this thing really came to a head.

00:46:07.000 Now, you are right at that flashpoint, Governor Ventura, and we need somebody, you know, who's intelligent, who is, you know, manly, who is strong, who is the archetypal leader type You know, up there with the chiseled jaw and the intellect and the gruff voice to be a leader during these times of crises.

00:46:28.000 And we've got Ron Paul and a few others.

00:46:31.000 And so that's why I believe you're going to announce for the Senate.

00:46:33.000 I hope your son says, Dad, do it.

00:46:35.000 I know it means six years in that nightmare pit of D.C., but you'll still be able to take some time off for fishing and going out and surfing.

00:46:45.000 and and and seeing your wife i mean i understand you've already given a lot i understand it was hellish being governor and being lied about and having your children being hunted by the uh...

00:46:53.000 you know uh... media uh...

00:46:54.000 but but all i'm trying to say is this is history this is history you can't turn history down or your whole life up to this point being in this position i think you're gonna make the right decision tonight well there is no right or wrong decision well you certainly already come out and talk about nine eleven and spoken out I mean, you've already done your duty.

00:47:13.000 I'm saying we need you to go above and beyond that.

00:47:16.000 Okay.

00:47:17.000 Well, anyway, Alex, can we go to some corners?

00:47:20.000 Yes, yes.

00:47:21.000 I'm just lobbying you here, sir.

00:47:23.000 My own bad one.

00:47:23.000 You're doing a good job.

00:47:26.000 We need you.

00:47:26.000 Hey, I'm telling you, man, they're building... I mean, you know about the concentration camps they've built, right?

00:47:31.000 Yeah, I've heard about it.

00:47:32.000 No, I mean, it's in the Houston Chronicle.

00:47:33.000 I've been to them.

00:47:35.000 Bush admits to the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

00:47:37.000 He's going to pass that on to Barack Obama.

00:47:39.000 You watch.

00:47:40.000 Barack Obama or McCain are going to end up being sleepers.

00:47:42.000 Let's go ahead and take calls for Governor Jesse Ventura.

00:47:44.000 We're going to skip this break.

00:47:46.000 Let's talk to Eric in Wisconsin.

00:47:48.000 You're on the air.

00:47:48.000 Go ahead.

00:47:49.000 How you doing, Mr. Ventura?

00:47:51.000 Hi, Eric.

00:47:51.000 How are you today?

00:47:52.000 I'm breathing.

00:47:53.000 I'm breathing.

00:47:54.000 Say, listen, I wanted to first off start by thanking you for what you've done so far for this country.

00:47:59.000 And I want to say that you're a true American.

00:48:01.000 Um, I myself was in the military, and my MOS was 12 Bravo, so I also was sort of an explosives expert, and I agree fully with your views on 9-11.

00:48:13.000 So when you're having work with demolition, when you watch those buildings, you see them like me, that they look like they're brought down with demo?

00:48:22.000 You know, honestly, I could not see anything besides that.

00:48:26.000 Really?

00:48:29.000 It took me a while to get to that point, I think, because I was in denial.

00:48:34.000 I didn't want to believe it.

00:48:36.000 Well, I don't think anybody did.

00:48:38.000 I don't think anybody did.

00:48:39.000 And I just want to say that whatever your decision is tonight, we respect you and we honor that decision, because I know family is a huge commitment.

00:48:48.000 I do also want to say that we are in a monumental period in history where we can either look back on this and say, you know, Man, I wish I would have done it, or we can look back and say I wish I had.

00:48:59.000 Yeah, he's gonna run.

00:49:00.000 This is greatness right here.

00:49:02.000 This is the make-or-break-it moment.

00:49:04.000 Alex, don't say that.

00:49:07.000 Mr. Ventura, you've got many, many people backing you.

00:49:10.000 Well, thank you.

00:49:11.000 I appreciate that.

00:49:11.000 You know what?

00:49:13.000 He had the courage to come on this show and talk about 9-11.

00:49:16.000 I know what's in you, Governor Ventura.

00:49:18.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:49:20.000 There's no coward in Mr. Ventura whatsoever.

00:49:23.000 And we need more people like that in office. 0.96

00:49:26.000 And I know it's a huge sacrifice to be making for your family, but imagine what would happen if you didn't.

00:49:31.000 Well, what would go on if I don't?

00:49:36.000 I'm not so fully in tune like everyone else that thinks one person can make the total difference.

00:49:42.000 I think that I would be like a red-headed stepchild out there.

00:49:47.000 They would do everything to bury me that they could.

00:49:50.000 But look how much support Ron Paul got over $27 million.

00:49:54.000 I think you're going to get that same type of support.

00:49:57.000 I think most of that movement would get behind you.

00:50:01.000 And again, the media doesn't have the power it had six, seven years ago.

00:50:06.000 Remember how they censored you when you tried to do your TV show?

00:50:09.000 You're not going to be censored now because there's this huge alternative media now Wait a minute now, that's not true, because if you look at what's happening right now in St.

00:50:19.000 Paul, where they're going to have the Republican Convention, the police and the courts are already ruling that the protesters will not be allowed on any of the main streets, that they're going to be only to side streets, so that way they'll get them off.

00:50:34.000 And you should march out there.

00:50:35.000 You don't have to cover any of the protesting.

00:50:38.000 I think you should march out there and protest that yourself.

00:50:42.000 That's the type of aggressive stuff.

00:50:44.000 Governor, let me advise you covertly.

00:50:47.000 I mean, we need you as a general at the front of the army out there.

00:50:52.000 I'm an enlisted man.

00:50:53.000 I'm not a general.

00:50:54.000 Well, you're a general now, whether you like it or not.

00:50:56.000 You're like Chuck Yeager, who ended up being a general.

00:50:59.000 Don't be calling me an officer.

00:51:01.000 I knew who my parents were.

00:51:04.000 Oh my God.

00:51:05.000 Okay, real quick, Eric, anything else?

00:51:09.000 That was a joke for everyone out there, so don't get all angry at me.

00:51:12.000 It's funny.

00:51:13.000 Mark in California, you're on the air with Governor Ventura, soon-to-be Senator Ventura.

00:51:17.000 Shush, Alex!

00:51:19.000 I'm sorry.

00:51:20.000 Go ahead.

00:51:21.000 You're on the air, Mark.

00:51:23.000 Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen.

00:51:24.000 I just wanted to follow up on Walter Cronkite Green brought up in the conversation.

00:51:30.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he pro-one world government, the voice of the bohemian grove?

00:51:36.000 I believe he brought up, he was just bringing up the quote of John Kerry about who will be the last to die.

00:51:41.000 Just like when I gave a Julius Caesar quote, I'm not for Julius Caesar.

00:51:47.000 I thought Concrete was brought up in the context of the National Enquirer mentality of the people desiring that level of information.

00:51:56.000 I don't recall so much as a kid growing up that we had that much news covering the death of Anna Nicole Smith and Paris Hilton.

00:52:05.000 No, I'm not saying that.

00:52:06.000 I'm not saying that at all.

00:52:07.000 Cronkite is supporting the New World Order. 0.91

00:52:09.000 how we have a tabloid thing, then does it turn into Ventura's covertly supporting the New World Order?

00:52:14.000 No, I'm not saying that.

00:52:15.000 I'm not saying that at all.

00:52:16.000 Go ahead and make your point.

00:52:17.000 Cronkite is supporting the New World Order. 0.91

00:52:19.000 I've seen the World Federalist Association video of Hillary Clinton giving him an award.

00:52:24.000 He's a Bohemian Grove member.

00:52:26.000 Sure.

00:52:27.000 And also, I think he was covering the Kennedy assassination.

00:52:30.000 I kind of remember that.

00:52:31.000 But we're not talking about Walter Cronkite.

00:52:34.000 Do you have a question for the governor?

00:52:35.000 Yes, I do, actually.

00:52:36.000 That was just a comment.

00:52:37.000 My question is, are you aware of the National Incident Management System and how it pertains to the The breakdown of the chain of command and taking the powers away from local sheriffs.

00:52:50.000 Yes.

00:52:51.000 I appreciate your call.

00:52:53.000 We've got to let you go.

00:52:55.000 Governor Ventura, you're aware that they're federalizing a lot of police.

00:52:58.000 The President, under his executive orders, is now saying Congress isn't allowed to see the emergency plans, but the declassified version says the President is a dictator.

00:53:08.000 What's your take on that?

00:53:10.000 Well, I'm starting to believe that.

00:53:12.000 That was one of the first things I disliked about Bush when he first got in office was that he flagrantly lied to me.

00:53:18.000 When we first got in office, of course, you have the National Governors Association that meets with the president, and you have the dinner on Sunday night, and then Monday morning you meet in the White House, and you talk domestic policy, what direction he's going to go, and what you can expect as a governor.

00:53:33.000 And George Bush, the first year he was in office, looked at all of us and said he was going to be an old Federalist-type president.

00:53:40.000 In other words, he was going to give power to the states, which I agree with.

00:53:43.000 I like that.

00:53:45.000 I like the idea of states being their own entities in this country to where then the state that most fits my beliefs, I can go live in that state because they will be parallel to what I believe in.

00:53:56.000 Well, Bush, what he did was just the opposite.

00:54:00.000 Once he got in power, he was the opposite.

00:54:02.000 He started taking all the power from the states, cases in point.

00:54:06.000 I believe 12 or 13 states now have passed the use of medicinal marijuana, where doctors should be able to prescribe it, and yet Bush and the federal government says, oh no, we won't allow that.

00:54:18.000 Oregon two times has passed the Dignity and Death Bill, where the people have voted on it, and yet Bush says, we don't care if you voted on it, we're not going to allow it to happen.

00:54:27.000 Yes.

00:54:27.000 And so George Bush is totally for federal power.

00:54:31.000 So it doesn't surprise me in the least that he would be federalizing most of our law enforcement because that's what our government has been heading that direction.

00:54:40.000 It continues to head that direction, and nobody seems to want to stop it.

00:54:45.000 Governor Ventura, getting back briefly to 9-11 and take a few final calls.

00:54:49.000 uh I mean, everybody who's in control of demolition, and I've talked to countless people on air, guests about it, say that's a classical control demolition.

00:54:58.000 We have firemen and police saying, we've been told to get back, they're going to bring the buildings down.

00:55:05.000 We have all of this going on. 0.94

00:55:06.000 I mean, how dumb does the government think we are to sit there and tell us that we're crazy to question the falling of those towers? 0.98

00:55:16.000 Because they will win! 0.96

00:55:18.000 You notice there's no other investigations happening.

00:55:21.000 There aren't going to be any investigations happening. 0.75

00:55:24.000 You notice on the Democratic side, if it's brought up to people like Bill Clinton and even Bill Maher, They yell and scream at the people and tell them they're crazy.

00:55:33.000 There will be nothing that will happen on 9-11 in my opinion.

00:55:37.000 9-11 is a buried, done deal.

00:55:40.000 The history books has recorded it as such.

00:55:43.000 And it will take a monumental thing.

00:55:45.000 Because look at John F. Kennedy.

00:55:47.000 They still hold to the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone assassin.

00:55:52.000 And anybody that can believe that hogwash, but yet the history books have stated that way, aren't they?

00:55:58.000 But, Governor, we now have the internet and other things, and the history books have finally been discredited, and it didn't take us 40 years to get 80-some percent of people thinking that 9-11 was an inside job, as 80-plus percent now know that Kennedy was an inside job.

00:56:13.000 But even with all those figures, Alex, it still doesn't matter, does it?

00:56:19.000 No, you're right.

00:56:20.000 We're fighting an uphill battle, but we're in a better position than we were in the past, Governor.

00:56:25.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:56:28.000 Well, I try to be, but my point is, is that by exposing false flag terrorism, it makes it harder for them to stage it again.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, that's true, but they will.

00:56:37.000 Trust me.

00:56:39.000 Just like when, what was the old saying from Adolf Hitler?

00:56:42.000 The bigger the lie, the easier the sell.

00:56:46.000 Governor, in closing on Iran.

00:56:51.000 They're talking about hitting him in the next six months.

00:56:53.000 Bush came out and said go ahead and hit him to Israel.

00:56:55.000 They're massing Israeli aircraft in Iraq.

00:56:59.000 Do you see any way of averting this?

00:57:00.000 And if it does happen, what do you see developing?

00:57:03.000 Well, I don't see any way of averting it because I think it's going to be Bush's last hurrah.

00:57:08.000 You know, he's going to get us then entrenched probably in a three war front.

00:57:12.000 Well, you notice Afghanistan, I just read today, eight of our soldiers were just killed the other day in Afghanistan.

00:57:18.000 So Afghanistan is rising up.

00:57:21.000 George Bush never finished the job there because he misdirected all our troops before getting the job done into Iraq.

00:57:28.000 And that's the classic example of someone who doesn't know jack about military, which is our president.

00:57:34.000 Or perhaps they want to get us tied up in a war so we'll rally around the flag while they suck the treasury dry.

00:57:42.000 Well that too, and also it'll make the Republicans for some reason even stronger because another additional war everybody's saying is going to help John McCain.

00:57:52.000 So don't think it's beyond the Republicans to get going against him to hurt anybody to Iran, and then they're going to sell us on the fact that even though the largest attack in U.S.

00:58:02.000 history happened on a Republican watch, you notice they're already blaming Bill Clinton for 9-11.

00:58:08.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:58:11.000 Do you think we're in danger of them staging some type of Gulf of Tonkin or other terror event to get us into a war with Iran? 0.62

00:58:18.000 Absolutely.

00:58:19.000 Read the last epilogue in my book.

00:58:22.000 I wrote that a year ago.

00:58:23.000 I take two calls, but that's got to be it, Alex.

00:58:25.000 I think we're gone.

00:58:25.000 This hour is over.

00:58:26.000 It's a one-minute break.

00:58:28.000 Is it possible, unless you've got another interview, to do five more to take two final calls?

00:58:32.000 I'll take two calls, but that's got to be with Alex.

00:58:35.000 Yes, sir.

00:58:35.000 Yeah, it's only a five-minute segment.

00:58:37.000 And then we've got Bob Chapman coming on.

00:58:39.000 Stay with us.

00:58:39.000 Back in 70 seconds, sir.

00:58:40.000 Yeah.

00:58:43.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:58:46.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

00:58:51.000 Yeah, let me talk to Ventura real fast.

00:58:53.000 May I have everyone...

00:58:55.000 Hey Governor, we're back in 50 seconds and this is only a four and a half minute segment.

00:59:01.000 We'll come in, take two final calls, plug the book, and then I'm going to be praying all day that you are hoping above hope that you're going to run for the Senate because I see destiny in this and I really think there's going to be fireworks.

00:59:18.000 Well, you know, Alex, I hope that if my decision is the other way, you won't hate me forever.

00:59:24.000 I am not going to hate you, absolutely not, and I would hope that is your decision before you leave in the fall to go back down to the Pacific Coast of Mexico that you'll come back on and talk about the tyranny, because you're speaking out.

00:59:38.000 A lot of people listen to you and respect you, so you've already done more than your duty speaking out, and we appreciate it.

00:59:44.000 Well, thanks, Alex.

00:59:45.000 I appreciate that.

00:59:46.000 You bet.

00:59:46.000 You're awesome.

00:59:47.000 Okay, we're back in about 25 seconds.

00:59:50.000 Have you thought about what Corey said to you about coming up and speaking with the first responders about getting them health care in New York?

00:59:57.000 Have we paid for your plane ticket?

00:59:58.000 Yeah, that's in September, right?

01:00:00.000 Yes, sir.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, I've heard about it, and I've got all the information in front of me.

01:00:05.000 Okay, well, maybe I'll call you in a few weeks and see if you want to do it.

01:00:08.000 Here we go, sir.

01:00:11.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:12.000 You want answers?

01:00:14.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:20.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:27.000 Mohammed Thomas and Scott Only time we had to take your calls.

01:00:33.000 Moving quickly, last five minutes with Governor Ventura.

01:00:37.000 Just finishing up with that statement, you are worried about some type of staged terror attack as a pretext to go into Iran, sir?

01:00:43.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

01:00:44.000 I don't think anything, you know, remember these two political parties and the Republicans are in bad shape right now.

01:00:51.000 McCain's trailing.

01:00:52.000 Republicans look like they'll get slaughtered in the congressional races, and they're going to lose all their power.

01:01:00.000 So rest assured that some type of decision they will have to come up with in an attempt to continue to keep themselves in power, because that's what the two parties do, and that's their main objective.

01:01:12.000 Well, we also have all these memos confirmed, where the Republicans are saying, we need terror attacks.

01:01:18.000 I mean, how much more obvious does it have to get?

01:01:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:22.000 My God, these people ought to be all put in chains right now. 1.00

01:01:24.000 And how much more stupid can we be if we buy into this? 1.00

01:01:28.000 Alright, let's go to JJ in Florida, then Mohamed in Chicago. 0.99

01:01:31.000 JJ in Florida, make it quick, we've got about two and a half minutes left.

01:01:35.000 Hey, how you doing today?

01:01:36.000 Good, go ahead.

01:01:37.000 How are you, JJ?

01:01:38.000 Hey, pretty good.

01:01:39.000 I was a CH-46 crew chief.

01:01:41.000 I bet you remember those, huh, Jesse?

01:01:43.000 Oh, I've jumped out of a few of them.

01:01:45.000 Yeah, hey, did you do any covert stuff?

01:01:47.000 I was in the 80s.

01:01:49.000 And I remember dropping you guys off in the jungles of the Philippines and all kinds of stuff.

01:01:53.000 Well, I was in from 69 to 73 on active duty.

01:01:58.000 Right.

01:01:58.000 Well, anyway, I'm way back.

01:02:01.000 I'm one of them guys.

01:02:02.000 I was in the Navy when the ships were made of wood and the men were made of steel.

01:02:08.000 Hey, I was just in Jacksonville for a while, and you ought to see our Navy now.

01:02:11.000 It'd make you want to throw up.

01:02:13.000 Why?

01:02:14.000 It's feminized. 0.51

01:02:15.000 Now I went on a smart ship and took a tour.

01:02:17.000 I couldn't believe it.

01:02:19.000 Well, you know, I don't know.

01:02:21.000 I don't find that so bad.

01:02:22.000 It'd be better looking at some girls than maybe you. 1.00

01:02:25.000 Well, I say that only in fun.

01:02:29.000 But anyway, serving with girls wouldn't be so bad. 0.89

01:02:32.000 Yeah, I gotta bring some women in for, you know, have some fun. 1.00

01:02:35.000 I was driving a cab for a while and I picked up this one sailor. 1.00

01:02:38.000 You wouldn't believe this girl that jumped in.

01:02:40.000 He goes, hey buddy, how would you like to have her?

01:02:43.000 You never had her on a ship, did you?

01:02:46.000 Have some camp women. 0.99

01:02:47.000 I gotta jump here.

01:02:48.000 Let's go to another call.

01:02:49.000 Mohammed in Chicago.

01:02:50.000 You're on the air with Governor Ventura.

01:02:51.000 Go ahead.

01:02:52.000 Alright, thanks for taking my call.

01:02:54.000 Hello, I'm Mohammed.

01:02:56.000 Hey, what's up?

01:02:57.000 Okay, so, I didn't really expect that Ventura was going to be on, but I can just pose this question to both of you all.

01:03:04.000 Now, it's no denying that we're headed, like, very rapidly into an economic depression, as well as a police state here in America.

01:03:12.000 And me, I'm kind of young.

01:03:14.000 I've got the opportunity to travel.

01:03:17.000 I am scared.

01:03:19.000 I don't want to be here when everything collapses as far as the economy.

01:03:22.000 It's going to collapse worldwide.

01:03:23.000 You've got to blame the politicians now so they'll strengthen the dollar.

01:03:26.000 What Governor Ventura said earlier, he's gone out and checked with the experts like we all have.

01:03:31.000 We have got to stop spending as much and stop the wars.

01:03:35.000 That will buoy the dollar.

01:03:37.000 Governor Ventura?

01:03:38.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:03:40.000 Those are the two main things.

01:03:41.000 Stop the spending.

01:03:43.000 Stop putting ourselves in debt.

01:03:45.000 The main thing is this nine plus trillion dollar debt.

01:03:50.000 Look at it like you'd look at your own home.

01:03:52.000 Economics.

01:03:54.000 If you've got a mortgage or a debt hanging over your head that's more than you make, that's more than what all the worth you have, Well, your economy is in big trouble.

01:04:04.000 Well, that's the same way because of the debt that our economy is in trouble today, and the devaluing of the dollars goes hand in hand with the high oil prices.

01:04:12.000 Muhammad, does that answer your question?

01:04:14.000 Well, I just want to say, because I don't want to be here when the dollar is worthless.

01:04:19.000 Yeah, there's nowhere for you to run.

01:04:20.000 You want to ask where to go?

01:04:21.000 That's right.

01:04:22.000 There ain't nowhere to run.

01:04:23.000 Nowhere to run, buddy.

01:04:24.000 Appreciate the call.

01:04:25.000 The meltdown of our economy is going to cause a world hyperinflationary depression.

01:04:30.000 That's not me.

01:04:31.000 That's Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiklitz.

01:04:33.000 That's the head of Reaganomics, Dr. Roberts.

01:04:36.000 We've had them all on.

01:04:37.000 Got a big expert coming up next segment, Bob Chapman, formerly the biggest gold and silver broker in the world.

01:04:42.000 He's now retired.

01:04:43.000 Jesse Ventura, Governor Ventura, we pray that you will.

01:04:46.000 We hope that you're going to be running for Senate, but if not, you've done your duty.

01:04:50.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

01:04:51.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:04:52.000 It's always my pleasure and I look forward to doing it again before I head to Mexico.

01:04:57.000 Thank you.

01:04:57.000 We'll talk to you soon, sir.

01:04:59.000 Very good.

01:04:59.000 Bye-bye.

01:05:00.000 There he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

01:05:01.000 Was that a hint?

01:05:02.000 Wake up, Protestant America. 0.99

01:05:05.000 There is an ecumenical woman.

01:05:05.000 Let me talk to him.

01:05:06.000 Now be sure.

01:05:07.000 One second.

01:05:07.000 Was he gone?

01:05:08.000 Go ahead.

01:05:09.000 Dr. Roberts, we've had them all on.

01:05:10.000 We've got a big expert coming up next segment.

01:05:12.000 Bob Chapman, formerly the biggest gold and silver broker in the world.

01:05:15.000 He's now retired.

01:05:17.000 Jesse Ventura, Governor of Ventura, we pray that you will.

01:05:19.000 We hope that you're going to be running for Senate, but if not, you've done your duty.

01:05:23.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

01:05:24.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:05:25.000 It's all downloaded, basically.

01:05:27.000 Just like when conservatives would see Bill Clinton handing over ports to the communist Chinese military they would freak out and think my god republicans must be good and then run join them see that's how the left-right paradigm works the left feeds the right the right feeds the left in their fear keeping the two groups separate but combined into the same false paradigm tied up together

01:05:54.000 And so, Republican policies reinforce the left, and Democratic, liberal policies reinforce the right.

01:06:00.000 Whether it's in Germany, or England, or the US, or Australia, it doesn't matter.

01:06:05.000 This is a dialectic.

01:06:06.000 This is a system of control.

01:06:09.000 And so everybody sees real environmental problems, people dying of cancer when they're 15 years old everywhere.

01:06:15.000 Leukemia is way up, all these other things way up, autism, people unhealthy, all these new diseases, all these toxicities, all these superfund sites, and then they hear of the solutions of global tax and they say, my God, I'm for it!

01:06:30.000 How do you approach somebody and go, look, here's how the trick works.

01:06:34.000 Bush comes out against it, and then you know he's a bad guy and wrong on every other policy, so you think, oh my gosh, it must be good.

01:06:41.000 I'm for a global warming tax.

01:06:46.000 You see, just like Bush is so bad, well the left all must be good, so maybe gun control is good if Bush is against it.

01:06:52.000 But in reality, he tripled the size of the BATF and is coming after your guns.

01:06:56.000 You see, that's why you've got to get out of the left-right paradigm.

01:06:59.000 We're not going to save the environment, and it's in trouble, folks, unless we can not let them co-opt us into their false solution of taxing greenhouse gases.

01:07:13.000 I hope all of this is getting through to you.

01:07:17.000 Okay?

01:07:18.000 They're going to tax your breathing while they engineer grasses, oaks, every food plant, every animal, crossing it with other insects and other animals, hundreds of human hybrids, goat hybrids, pig hybrids, cow hybrids, Horse hybrids, dog hybrids, jellyfish-humanoid hybrids.

01:07:39.000 I mean, type in human-animal hybrid into Google and all the National Geographic, AP, Reuters, BBC.

01:07:45.000 You tell the person on the street that, they don't believe it exists, because they've been taught to fear carbon dioxide, not Cross-species hybrids that give rise to super-viruses, that then go into bacteria and give you super-mutated bacteria, already killing bees, killing trees, killing the ocean, mutating plankton.

01:08:05.000 I mean, this is... Oh my God.

01:08:10.000 We can't worry about something real.

01:08:12.000 We can't worry about overfishing.

01:08:14.000 We can't worry about anything real, or chopping down rainforest.

01:08:18.000 We've just got to tax carbon dioxide.

01:08:23.000 Alright, we're going to Bob Chapman, and I've got all this other news here.

01:08:27.000 He'll be with us for the rest of the show, or until about 45 after next hour.

01:08:31.000 Your calls are coming up, I promise, at 1-800-259-9231 on any issue with Bob Chapman, but especially the economy.

01:08:38.000 Bob, I want you to recap what we've seen happen the last week with Indy Bank, with Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, And then walk us through the basics, recap the basics, and then look at what solutions to this would be, but we know that's not going to happen, so where this is going to go.

01:08:59.000 And so we can't have big solutions to fix the major problems, which you say is too late, and I agree, but to have a softer landing than what we can do individually.

01:09:07.000 Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster, thank you for joining us.

01:09:10.000 And if you'd like, you can comment on the environmental rant I was just engaging in.

01:09:14.000 No, I thought you covered it brilliantly.

01:09:17.000 Some of the things that you spoke about, I wasn't aware of, and I think you've got a great grasp on it, and I think the listeners should be happy that you're able to present it in a concise form that way.

01:09:33.000 As far as what's going on in the financial markets, we can reach back almost a year now.

01:09:41.000 When the exposure came, There was a credit crisis.

01:09:46.000 Needless to say, it had been building for the last couple of years prior to that.

01:09:51.000 And since then, they really accomplished very little in solving that crisis.

01:09:57.000 We've seen commercial and residential real estate fall in value in degrees, depending upon where you are and how much your real estate went up.

01:10:12.000 We've seen a tremendous fraud uncovered with the sale of mortgage bonds called CDOs and SIVs and the mislabeling them of AAA when in fact they were BBB with a difference between a 10 and a 4.

01:10:35.000 And now we're starting to see the Falling out of banking structure.

01:10:42.000 We saw the financial assassination of Bear Stearns.

01:10:47.000 They never had to go under.

01:10:49.000 That was the machinations of those on Wall Street in conjunction with the Federal Reserve, which Wall Street owns.

01:10:56.000 And we then saw beginnings of institutions going under, and that came with the mortgage companies first, And then there was some 235 or 50 of them that went down.

01:11:16.000 Then that was followed by IndyMac.

01:11:19.000 IndyMac happened on Friday after the close of the market.

01:11:23.000 That's usually when they do those things.

01:11:26.000 And they've known for a long time that there was a serious problem there, just like they did with Countrywide.

01:11:31.000 And they had one of their shareholders, Bank of America, step in and buy Countrywide.

01:11:37.000 And by the looks of things, The purchase of Countrywide may end up taking Bank of America down in time as well.

01:11:46.000 And so, IndyMac is, like Countrywide, become emblematic of the decline of, particularly, residential housing.

01:11:58.000 And it's got a long way to go.

01:12:00.000 I saw a couple of articles that said, in the last couple of days, especially one today in the Chicago Tribune, Uh, relating that the subprime alter mortgage problem will be over this month.

01:12:16.000 Not in their wildest dreams.

01:12:20.000 That particular segment of the market has got until the end of next June to go.

01:12:25.000 And all during that period it's going to be nasty.

01:12:28.000 On top of that... Well, Bob, stop there.

01:12:29.000 I didn't want to interrupt you because I wanted you to go over all this, but that was in my list of things to ask.

01:12:33.000 This is the same group that told us six months ago with Bear Stearns that this was the end of the downturn, and they knew the whole time because I was reading some of their internal stuff that leaks out.

01:12:43.000 They were saying, get ready for curtains.

01:12:45.000 Meanwhile, they're telling the people everything's great.

01:12:49.000 That makes them lose more confidence, doesn't it?

01:12:51.000 Doesn't that make the people trust them even less?

01:12:55.000 That the fact that they can never tell us the truth?

01:12:57.000 Doesn't that deepen the crises?

01:13:00.000 Yes, it does.

01:13:01.000 And it brings more people to recognition of what's going on.

01:13:06.000 And it also... So why do they lie?

01:13:10.000 Because they have no other choice.

01:13:12.000 They have just decimated the financial and economic system.

01:13:17.000 Through their greed more than anything else.

01:13:20.000 And they also want to, as you explained when you talked about environmentalism, that they want to denude the Western nations of manufacturing capability so they can handle them better, bring them down to a lower level.

01:13:38.000 And it's the same thing in the financial and economic overall sphere.

01:13:45.000 And so We're looking at all these fallouts, and what if from here on out, you're probably going to see a few hundred banks go under, maybe even more.

01:13:56.000 And the FDIC is $52 billion in round figures, and this buyout saving of IndyMac is going to cost somewhere around $6 or $8 billion, so it's a good chunk of the money that they had.

01:14:16.000 I noticed that, and they didn't say how, but they said those who had more than $100,000 in their accounts would be compensated in time.

01:14:26.000 I don't know whether it's this century or the next, but anyway, we've been telling people to take any monies out of banks that were over $100,000, and to think twice about even keeping $100,000 in a bank, because I think many of them, because of this toxic waste in the form of mortgage bonds that they're holding and other loans as well, and credit card loans and everything else, that many, many banks are going to be under pressure.

01:14:53.000 That's a good question, Bob.

01:14:54.000 How do you analyze your bank?

01:14:56.000 Because they all lie so much in their financials.

01:14:58.000 How do you analyze if a bank's a good place to have your dollar, which is already being stolen by inflation?

01:15:05.000 Well, there are services that do that, and we have one that we recommend to people, and they charge a small fee, which I think is understandable and worthwhile to find out what their rating on such-and-such bank is.

01:15:20.000 and But I think the main thing is that you don't want to have a lot of cash around unless you've got a business or something like that.

01:15:30.000 And even if you've got a business, if you're using a bank, you're going to have to use several banks if you've got like a half a million.

01:15:37.000 You should have five accounts with 100,000 each of them just to protect yourself.

01:15:43.000 And people who don't need a great cash flow or money sitting there behind them, I think they should be considering gold and silver-related assets.

01:15:54.000 And for those who already have a lot of those or don't want any, the only alternative I can see is Swiss franc government bonds.

01:16:03.000 And they yield to 2.5%, the strongest currency in the world.

01:16:11.000 They do have enough gold to back their currency if they choose to again.

01:16:14.000 And so that is that alternative.

01:16:18.000 So I don't have many things to offer, just gold and silver-related assets and those bonds.

01:16:24.000 And there's not many places to go.

01:16:26.000 I think the stock market's going lower.

01:16:28.000 I think interest rates are going higher in the real interest rate market.

01:16:32.000 Well, Bob, I was thinking about this.

01:16:33.000 You said here in late 2007, you said in the seventh month and that's now what we're in.

01:16:41.000 You said in July you'll see banks start going under.

01:16:45.000 And I get confused.

01:16:47.000 I mean, I know you're the expert.

01:16:48.000 That's why I get confused.

01:16:49.000 But you're saying it's going to take longer, a couple more years for the depression to hit, but then you were right on about the earnings coming in, the news coming in now, this happening now.

01:16:59.000 I just don't see this going out another two and a half years.

01:17:02.000 Well, I know you don't, and I think it's because you probably haven't been doing this for 50 years, and you gain patience.

01:17:11.000 And not only that, you recognize the power that the Illuminati has.

01:17:16.000 I mean, they control the press strings of the entire world.

01:17:20.000 And they're fighting to stay alive.

01:17:23.000 They're fighting to keep the system going.

01:17:25.000 And they're gonna draw it out as long as they can, or until a time is reached when they want it to go down.

01:17:32.000 And drawing it out makes it worse for us, doesn't it?

01:17:35.000 No, it makes it worse for everybody.

01:17:37.000 Because all those guys... We're going to skip this break, Bob.

01:17:40.000 We're going to talk to Bob behind the scenes here.

01:17:40.000 Stay there.

01:17:43.000 May I?

01:17:44.000 Explain that.

01:17:44.000 Bob, continue.

01:17:45.000 I mean, obviously, but for somebody who's making $20,000 a year, they're going to be worse off in a bad market or a depression than somebody worth a billion bucks.

01:17:53.000 That's right.

01:17:54.000 But what you said yesterday was very, very important.

01:17:59.000 And that was that this is going to get so bad that the guys behind the scenes Who are causing all this are going to lose their wealth as well.

01:18:08.000 Do you remember that comment?

01:18:10.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:18:11.000 That's what the Financial Times of London said.

01:18:13.000 Very powerful.

01:18:14.000 Very powerful.

01:18:15.000 And the reason why is they're going to get swallowed up in their own deal.

01:18:20.000 And they're going to be ejected.

01:18:22.000 They're going to lose their wealth.

01:18:24.000 There's going to be trials.

01:18:26.000 People are going to go to jail.

01:18:28.000 Well, Bob, for me, that's the big political question.

01:18:31.000 Are they going to be able to keep their political mechanisms in place, their police state in place, to keep us from bringing them to justice?

01:18:38.000 Because the only hope we have is bringing them to justice and changing the system, as Ron Paul and yourself and so many other experts have agreed.

01:18:46.000 So, you know, the problem I see is them preemptively bringing in a police state so they can financially rape us and then not get in trouble for it. 0.99

01:18:56.000 Well, if that is the case, then we have to kill them all. 1.00

01:19:02.000 It's pretty simple. 1.00

01:19:03.000 Pretty clear cut.

01:19:05.000 If they go for this whole police state thing, we gotta go after them.

01:19:09.000 It's called guerrilla warfare and we've gotta do it.

01:19:11.000 That's the only chance we've got.

01:19:16.000 See, I think the police and military, they're just so used to following orders.

01:19:19.000 I think they're just going to go along with it all, even though it totally destroys their future.

01:19:24.000 And I think there's going to be large groups of people that won't go along with it, but I kind of see us falling like the old Soviet Union. 0.77

01:19:32.000 I think that's the best we can hope for, is not a hot war.

01:19:35.000 I hope it doesn't come to what you said, and I hope they don't win their police state.

01:19:39.000 I really see it all going bankrupt where they can't even fund it.

01:19:42.000 What do you see happening, Bob?

01:19:45.000 Well, I think it's going to go bankrupt.

01:19:47.000 But at the same time, I think they're going to implement this police state as well.

01:19:52.000 And that's why I keep on telling people, make sure you can defend your family.

01:19:55.000 What I'm telling them to do is get assault weapons.

01:19:58.000 Well, I think we certainly should discredit the establishment now.

01:20:01.000 I mean, that's life and death.

01:20:02.000 So the people know who was behind all that.

01:20:04.000 I mean, isn't that the key?

01:20:06.000 Letting the dumbed-down public know that it's the international bankers doing all this?

01:20:10.000 Yeah, and who they are.

01:20:12.000 And that's what you do, and I do in part, but you do much more of it than I. And, you know, you're a clarion beacon out there.

01:20:20.000 You're number one.

01:20:21.000 I mean, none of these other programs can even come close to yours in informing people.

01:20:28.000 And, you know, you don't tend to overemphasize things.

01:20:34.000 You don't make them into...

01:20:40.000 Well, Bob, let's talk more about that later.

01:20:43.000 We're going back to the main program right now.

01:20:45.000 You're not shoving the deal over the edge.

01:20:49.000 You're not embellishing it.

01:20:51.000 You're just telling it the way it is.

01:20:53.000 And some other people do that, but they go beyond, and you don't do that.

01:20:58.000 Well, Bob, let's talk more about that later.

01:20:59.000 We're going back to the main program right now.

01:21:01.000 Here we go.

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01:22:42.000 Now, I know you're holding...

01:22:44.000 You want to talk to Bob Chapman.

01:22:45.000 That's coming up early in the next hour.

01:22:47.000 But right now, in the minutes we've got left, Bob, you are continuing to walk through the fact that this is going to bring everybody down.

01:22:58.000 You agree with the Financial Times of London, you know, saying that this even endangers the overarching order of things.

01:23:04.000 They meant this to be the debt Well, I think they, and they've done this before, they overestimated what they could accomplish.

01:23:22.000 And then, in addition to that, they were very, very surprised at the mess that the Bush administration and

01:23:33.000 uh... the uh... blair and now uh... gordon brown administration in in london made of iraq and afghanistan it's it's just you know the corporate entity a couple years ago he said i mean this is a nightmare i mean uh... you know that uh... with all the work we did on this thing and these guys have made a mess out of it is it set back the The timetable for world government by 30 years.

01:24:02.000 He later said 50.

01:24:04.000 And I'm happy about that.

01:24:07.000 But how did they get in the mess they're in?

01:24:10.000 Those are the two factors.

01:24:11.000 They reached too far beyond. 0.94

01:24:13.000 And you've got to remember, one of the real problems that they have is they are very, very arrogant people.

01:24:18.000 They think they're the lords of the world.

01:24:22.000 The heads of the universe, if you might If you might.

01:24:27.000 And they're prone to make those kind of silly mistakes because they have a lot of people working with them 24-7 all over the world because they have endless supplies of wealth, working on their plans for the future.

01:24:43.000 And then, of course, Brzezinski and Kissinger and people like that take those plans and put them together and shape them into policy for these people, in which you've said, Alex, You can find all this.

01:24:56.000 All you have to do is be willing to read and do research.

01:25:00.000 I mean, Foreign Affairs is the house organ of the Council on Foreign Relations.

01:25:05.000 I was a subscriber since 1960.

01:25:07.000 And what they're going to do, they just print it right out and tell you.

01:25:11.000 Bob!

01:25:12.000 And it's part of that arrogance.

01:25:13.000 We got a break for 60, 70 seconds.

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01:27:42.000 He's one of our best experts we have on, one of many, but they all seem to be agreeing on the basics.

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01:27:56.000 Bob, this is a quick segment, as you know, but I'm going to skip it for behind-the-scenes listeners, so we'll go straight through to the next segment and take calls.

01:28:03.000 Iran.

01:28:04.000 Bush said Friday, and I've got it right here, Times of London, he said, I support Israel going ahead and hitting Iran, publicly said go ahead and hit them.

01:28:14.000 The Israelis are massing aircraft inside Iraq, huge provocation.

01:28:19.000 And it looks like that Ray McGovern and others are right that it's a go sometime in September or October as an October surprise.

01:28:28.000 Why are they planning to do this?

01:28:32.000 Well, I think the main reason is to detract people's minds away from the economic and financial problems that not only beset the United States, but the world.

01:28:42.000 Because when the doggy, which is the United States, wags its tail, All the world thunders and quakes and trembles, economically and financially.

01:28:54.000 And so, I think it is a move just like Iran and Afghanistan were, to get people looking in the other direction. 0.86

01:29:04.000 I once met a man from Israel and I said, aren't you concerned about the economic climate that's there?

01:29:10.000 And he said, no, I'm more concerned about whether I'm going to get killed or not.

01:29:17.000 If you've got these wars going on, people are going to be thinking, well, gee, what's next?

01:29:21.000 The draft?

01:29:21.000 Maybe I'll have to go do that.

01:29:24.000 And so that's one of the reasons.

01:29:26.000 Of course, they want Iran's oil.

01:29:28.000 Israel wants to expand.

01:29:30.000 And they want Iran to be neutralized, just like they wanted Iraq neutralized. 0.83

01:29:37.000 And of course, there's the oil production, which the Western oil companies would like to get their hands on.

01:29:44.000 And that is clouded by the fact that Iran has treaties with and agreements with China and Russia.

01:29:53.000 And the big question is, are they going to get involved?

01:29:58.000 I would think that if anybody did, Russia might.

01:30:01.000 And, you know, Israel, if they attack, might get a surprise. 0.58

01:30:06.000 They may be facing Russia as well as Iran.

01:30:10.000 And I don't know that, but it could happen.

01:30:14.000 It could escalate.

01:30:16.000 And also, Russia has said yesterday that they are contemplating now, even though Poland has backed out of the missile deal, putting those missiles ostensibly to shoot down Iranian rockets, when in fact it was to threaten Russia, they said, you know, if you go ahead somewhere over there and you do that, we're going to target all of the major cities in Western Europe.

01:30:16.000 Escalate.

01:30:42.000 Just like they did during the Cold War.

01:30:43.000 You know, that's right.

01:30:44.000 I mean, think about the rhetoric we're hearing.

01:30:46.000 Even in the Cold War, they never threatened to nuke us.

01:30:48.000 And they've had their top foreign minister and others say, we may go ahead, if you even put missiles in these countries, we may go ahead and hit them.

01:30:57.000 I mean, Russia doesn't just make threats.

01:31:00.000 They never have.

01:31:02.000 They do it.

01:31:04.000 And they're very bright people.

01:31:06.000 You know, almost all the time I spent in counterintelligence was working against them in the KGB, the NKVD, and Stasi, and other units as well.

01:31:17.000 And that was a long time ago.

01:31:19.000 It was 50 years ago.

01:31:20.000 But still, my experience has been that they're formidable opponents.

01:31:26.000 Oh, Bob Shetman, just amazing.

01:31:33.000 We're going to talk behind the scenes for three minutes for the InfoWars.com listeners and PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

01:31:39.000 We're going to come back and go right to your calls with Bob Chapman, our guest.

01:31:44.000 Okay, Bob, I don't want to waste any of your time for behind the scenes with folks watching on the web.

01:31:48.000 I wanted to talk a little bit about oil.

01:31:55.000 How high, conservatively, do you see it going by September?

01:32:01.000 I think it's going to stay in the same general area, somewhere between 125 and 150.

01:32:07.000 I think that is probably the zone for it into the fall.

01:32:14.000 And were we to have a conflict, who knows where it'll go.

01:32:16.000 Because it would depend on the conflict, number one.

01:32:20.000 And number two, are they going to sink all of the shipping in the Persian Gulf or in the Streets of Hormuz? 0.64

01:32:30.000 Are they going to blow up Saudi Arabia?

01:32:33.000 There's a lot of questions.

01:32:36.000 So, in oil, under those circumstances, it could be $200 to $300, I don't know, any number you want to make.

01:32:45.000 And so, on the downside, if there's no attack, anywhere between $80 and $120, picking $100 or $80 as a bottom on oil, Yeah, remember the good old days when oil was $100 a barrel?

01:33:00.000 And of course, that was a nightmare just six, seven months ago when it was $100 a barrel.

01:33:05.000 People couldn't believe that.

01:33:06.000 I mean, remember, folks, it was bad when it was $65.

01:33:09.000 What was it?

01:33:10.000 It was $45 a barrel, what, three years ago?

01:33:13.000 That's correct.

01:33:15.000 And it wasn't long before that.

01:33:16.000 It got down as low as $9.

01:33:20.000 But mostly, most of the prices were in the $13 to $15 range.

01:33:24.000 But still, it was very low.

01:33:26.000 And you know, you ask yourself, how do these things happen?

01:33:28.000 Well, there's a lot of manipulation going on, a lot of politics, and we're not behind the scenes, so we've got to get to what they're doing, we've got to back into their intentions.

01:33:43.000 You know what scares me, Bob?

01:33:44.000 Talking to all the experts and studying the New World Order, I tend to agree with you.

01:33:48.000 People think they're omnipresent and all-powerful.

01:33:50.000 I think they're losing control.

01:33:50.000 They're not.

01:33:52.000 When I look at them on TV and read their own writings, they're starting to panic.

01:33:56.000 And I know where a lot of the big money is going.

01:33:58.000 For at least two years, they have been completely pulling out of Israel and the U.S. and saying things like, it isn't going to be here economically.

01:34:07.000 And so I think you're right.

01:34:08.000 I think they know that they have completely screwed everything up.

01:34:15.000 And that will eventually lead to exposure.

01:34:18.000 And when the exposure comes, you know, they'll lose their power.

01:34:22.000 Not all of them, but most of them.

01:34:23.000 Well, that's even scarier than them being somewhat, you know, omnipotent. 0.86

01:34:27.000 I mean, it's even scarier to know that we've got a bunch of arrogant know-it-alls who now are causing a global meltdown.

01:34:33.000 We're coming back on the main broadcast right now, Bob.

01:34:37.000 I'm going to commit more acts and bring in martial law. 0.98

01:34:37.000 Here we go. 0.98

01:34:43.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

01:34:45.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:34:48.000 So to be clear, Bob, do you think they're really going to hit Iran A, and if they are, part A, you know, the second part of the question A,

01:35:08.000 Well, number one, I think the possibility of conflict is even money.

01:35:23.000 Again, we're not behind the scenes, so we know that something very well could happen, and might very well happen.

01:35:30.000 On the other hand, maybe it won't.

01:35:32.000 So, I just don't know.

01:35:35.000 I did know two years ago that they would not and about maybe four or five months ago I changed my mind and I said it's a 50-50 chance.

01:35:46.000 I don't know.

01:35:47.000 And I just don't have enough intelligence.

01:35:50.000 Well, the worsening economic straits, I mean, remember the stock market started going down and then they staged 9-11 to kind of be an emotional rally around the flag opiate. 0.50

01:36:02.000 And I mean, do you agree with me?

01:36:03.000 I mean, I believe from the evidence that worsening economic straits encourages them to go ahead and attack.

01:36:11.000 Well, you get a very valid point.

01:36:14.000 It's a very important thing to them.

01:36:16.000 To misdirect people, and that does push the odds from perhaps even money to 60-40, 60 that it would happen, or maybe 70-30.

01:36:27.000 Again, because we're not on the inside, we don't know, but those are probably the odds now because of the crumbling of the markets and the terrible problems of bankruptcies that we're seeing in the United States and in Western Europe.

01:36:42.000 They tried today to keep the market up, we've got about About an hour to go, 15 minutes, and the Dow is coming unglued again.

01:36:52.000 And, you know, every time it does that, they come in the market to try to keep it up, to holding off, you know, the inevitable problem of lower prices.

01:37:02.000 Lower prices are very important to them that they don't happen because the market is the last vistage, the stock market, of anything that is pliable that will I stand up for you, and that's not happening anymore.

01:37:19.000 The market has broken down from a fundamental and a technical base, and it should have broken down a long time ago.

01:37:27.000 But it is now, and so that adds fuel to the fire to have Israel and the United States go in and attack Iran.

01:37:37.000 But again, will the Russians get involved?

01:37:39.000 If they do, you get a third world war and it'll go nuclear. 0.80

01:37:45.000 Europe, the United States, Russia will have all kinds of casualties.

01:37:49.000 Well, I agree with you that it's a 60-40. 0.99

01:37:51.000 If there was any sanity within the elite, it'd be a zero chance.

01:37:55.000 But the boldness to carry out a complex op like 9-11...

01:38:00.000 It shows these are very, very reckless, arrogant people and it shows they're into stuff that's spectacular.

01:38:10.000 By the way, ladies and gentlemen, we couldn't be in worse straits.

01:38:13.000 I mean, Bush has been totally unstable and a nice puppet for the elite, but now we face Barack Obama.

01:38:19.000 And John McCain, both of them equally as bad.

01:38:22.000 But this is another strike against Obama.

01:38:25.000 Arnold Schwarzenegger, Politico reporting, and they're a good source of news, a cabinet-level position, which if cabinet is in the succession, I believe that violates the Constitution with foreign-born being in the succession line for president.

01:38:40.000 Arnold, a very dangerous person, just insane with power lust.

01:38:46.000 California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said in an interview aired Sunday that he would be open to an idea of serving as Energy Czar in Barack Obama's administration.

01:38:53.000 Of course, he ran in California on the advisory panel, the Enron scamming, and then posed and ran on a platform fighting Enron.

01:39:04.000 He's a very corrupt individual. 0.97

01:39:06.000 I mean, just another example of who could, Bob, who could imagine a comic book series where we'd be looking at 2008 with a son of a Nazi who says he wants to be a Nazi dictator, who's in gay porn, running around with some guy whose dad's a Muslim, named Hussein Barack Obama, with a nutcase Manchurian candidate who wants our guns for the Republican. 0.99

01:39:30.000 I mean, this is insane! 0.99

01:39:33.000 It's pure madness.

01:39:36.000 Only in America.

01:39:37.000 It's just incredible.

01:39:39.000 And, you know, the people who sit back and say, well, I'd rather have him than that guy over there. 0.52

01:39:44.000 But they don't notice that they're both totally unqualified, and one's a Marxist and the other's a fascist.

01:39:52.000 Well, we've got two fascists and one Marxist. 0.96

01:39:56.000 It's madness.

01:39:57.000 Arnold went on ABC's this week, he said it on television with Stephanopoulos, that he wants to give something back being energy as he just are.

01:40:07.000 I mean, Arnold made hundreds of millions just in the little council he was in running scams with Enron.

01:40:13.000 I mean, it's just incredible.

01:40:17.000 And he's going to run around pushing carbon taxes and tattletale squads.

01:40:22.000 Oh, my God.

01:40:24.000 We're in a lot of trouble, Bob Chapman.

01:40:27.000 Well, those tattletale squads are really, really something that I don't listen to your program all the time, so I don't know how much you've covered it.

01:40:36.000 But they've got police and firefighters and paramedics and other people who are out among the public who are employed by government in one form or another.

01:40:47.000 They are now training them to look for suspicious things.

01:40:51.000 In other words, let's spy on everybody.

01:40:53.000 And that's the Stasi. 0.82

01:40:55.000 Yeah, and it is just dreadful.

01:40:59.000 I mean, it can't get any worse than that.

01:41:01.000 It's neighbor against neighbor, child against parents, and so on.

01:41:07.000 Well, and in fact they give children money to spy on their parents, and they have these neighborhood FBI meetings now for six and a half years.

01:41:13.000 They say, come to the meeting to fight Al-Qaeda.

01:41:15.000 And you show up and they say, okay, this is a week-long course, you're fighting Al-Qaeda, and then it's like an hour on Al-Qaeda, and the rest is, does your neighbor have pot plants?

01:41:24.000 Did they spank their kids? 1.00

01:41:25.000 And it's all how to get people in the system.

01:41:28.000 I mean, this is insane.

01:41:29.000 I mean, Bob, this is what you fought when you were in intelligence, isn't it?

01:41:33.000 I mean, isn't this classical tyranny?

01:41:35.000 Absolutely.

01:41:36.000 I mean, you mentioned the Stasi, and that's exactly what they did. 0.89

01:41:43.000 And now we're finding out who worked for them, and they were supposed to be good guys, and they were really bad guys.

01:41:50.000 But you know, the Cold War was another giant scam.

01:41:55.000 And I, like many, many other people in the 1950s and 60s, got sucked in by it.

01:42:01.000 I mean, we didn't know.

01:42:02.000 I didn't know then.

01:42:05.000 And I made a mistake, like many people did.

01:42:09.000 But we know today.

01:42:10.000 And that's why, at my age, I continue to try to transmit the information to people that they need to look into this.

01:42:19.000 They gotta know about it.

01:42:20.000 They have to know the things that are really affecting their lives.

01:42:23.000 And by stage, it's compartmentalized.

01:42:25.000 You were fighting a real war with their operatives, but at the highest levels, we were giving them the nukes, the food, the money, letting them take over countries, because we couldn't be the bad guys then.

01:42:35.000 The bankers had to have somebody to go around and murder middle classes, but now we're going to be the bad guys.

01:42:42.000 I think you're right. 0.95

01:42:43.000 It's totally sick.

01:42:44.000 Quite frankly, in Europe, particularly Eastern Europe, the Russians are the good guys.

01:42:51.000 It's incredible.

01:42:52.000 Let's take calls here.

01:42:53.000 And, of course, they're all just interplaying the parts for the bankers.

01:42:57.000 Roman in California, thanks for holding.

01:42:59.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:43:00.000 Hello, Alex.

01:43:01.000 This is Roman from California calling from Infowars, California.

01:43:06.000 Since you brought up Arnold Schwarzenegger, I just want to take everybody back to 1846 and the California Black Bell Flag Revolt.

01:43:17.000 Give me a favor.

01:43:18.000 Turn your radio off.

01:43:19.000 This is really blaring.

01:43:21.000 Oh, is it?

01:43:22.000 Yeah.

01:43:23.000 Okay. 0.99

01:43:24.000 Good, you killed it. 0.99

01:43:25.000 Go ahead. 0.99

01:43:27.000 All right.

01:43:28.000 Anyway, 1846, California, General Vallejo instilling tyranny, trying to steal the Golden Republic, and here we have Governor Schwarzenegger running around doing stuff that's a hundred times worse, and nobody does anything about it!

01:43:45.000 I hear you, Bob Chapman. 0.97

01:43:47.000 I mean, again, we know he's a puppet, but I mean, having some arrogant, know-it-all prance around and rob everybody, it's disgusting. 0.99

01:43:58.000 And, you know, again, it's back to the same thing. 0.99

01:44:01.000 The public aren't paying attention.

01:44:04.000 If they don't care, there's no evidence.

01:44:06.000 If they do care, there's no evidence of it.

01:44:09.000 I recognized some of the major problems in California where I lived for 36 years.

01:44:15.000 In the early 1990s, and I said, I've got to get out of here, because the tax base was eroding, they were overwhelmed with people who didn't pay taxes at all, and the economy continued to deteriorate, and most people couldn't see that.

01:44:37.000 But it's getting people to do things, and that's what the gentleman is asking.

01:44:43.000 And we're full circle.

01:44:45.000 We're doing what we can do.

01:44:47.000 I just hope they listen.

01:44:48.000 Well, Roman, thanks for the call.

01:44:50.000 Let me just ask this question of you, Bob.

01:44:53.000 We know they've tripled the amount of police.

01:44:56.000 Bureaucracies are growing at a record pace as we're bankrupt.

01:44:59.000 There's cops everywhere writing tickets.

01:45:02.000 Literally every couple months, new tax authorities show up out of nowhere at my business demanding new taxes.

01:45:08.000 trying to force their way in to look at everything, look at our books, with no judge, no warrant, and they're doing it to everybody, not just me.

01:45:16.000 I'm in Texas.

01:45:18.000 It's worse in other states.

01:45:20.000 I mean, what's the breaking point?

01:45:22.000 When we all go bankrupt, there'll just be bureaucrats literally sticking straws in our arteries, sucking our blood? 0.98

01:45:28.000 I mean, how far does this go?

01:45:30.000 How long until our backs break?

01:45:32.000 Well, until the people say, I won't put up with it anymore, and they'll revolt, and that's why you have revolutions.

01:45:40.000 and And in most countries, people can't revolt, or their chances of success are very small.

01:45:49.000 But there's 450 million weapons in the United States, and at least 50 million people know how to use them very, very well.

01:45:59.000 All you need is maybe 4 or 5 million people throughout the country to challenge.

01:46:05.000 100,000 highly motivated would... I mean, you know the security forces now are all about keeping themselves safe.

01:46:05.000 Are you kidding?

01:46:14.000 They will run and hide in bunkers with their tails between their legs instantly.

01:46:18.000 It's a total paper tiger.

01:46:19.000 I hope it doesn't come to that, but you could very well be right.

01:46:23.000 Well, the problem is they're going to use nerve gas.

01:46:25.000 The problem is that the central government has said they're going to use nerve gas and just kill everybody. 0.90

01:46:30.000 That's right, cops. 0.97

01:46:31.000 If there's actually a civil war, they're going to nerve gas you with us. 0.99

01:46:34.000 Hope you enjoy flopping around for ten seconds while you die like a fish out of water. 0.99

01:46:39.000 Your God is going to nerve gas you. 0.98

01:46:41.000 I want to skip to Bob Chapman.

01:46:41.000 Stay there.

01:46:43.000 By the age of 60, half of all... Take me to Bob.

01:46:45.000 Bob?

01:46:47.000 We're going to come back and take calls in the full program, but we've got tens of thousands listening and watching right now.

01:46:51.000 I want to talk about that.

01:46:53.000 The Sunshine Project in 2000 was able to get the secret documents from Congress, only the cover sheets, but you know they have helicopters in every city under a continuity of government.

01:47:03.000 This goes back to Clinton with knockout gas, opiates, but we also know now they have nerve gas on them, and that they're planning, if there's ever a wide-scale revolt, to nerve gas from the air.

01:47:14.000 How do you deal with that?

01:47:17.000 You don't, you die. 0.99

01:47:18.000 Yeah, I guess they're just going to kill everybody. 0.96

01:47:20.000 I guess that's your loving government, huh? 1.00

01:47:23.000 You know, they are wild and mad beyond description. 0.94

01:47:27.000 It's hard to get that over the people because, you know, they run around on television well-dressed and they seem like such nice ladies and gentlemen, when in fact they're evil malefactors.

01:47:38.000 And people just don't see it because they don't have time to get the depth of thought that we do.

01:47:46.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

01:47:48.000 I mean, I study this literally 18 hours a day, and I'm learning more every month than I knew previously.

01:47:54.000 It seems to all just be... Do you agree everything's accelerating, Bob?

01:47:59.000 It is accelerating, and the information that we're getting now because of the Internet, and because so many people are now looking into it, is really overwhelming.

01:48:12.000 And people say to me, you know, You write that publication.

01:48:16.000 How do you put up with all that negativism?

01:48:18.000 And I said, I don't have a problem at all.

01:48:20.000 You know, after 50 years, you get used to it.

01:48:24.000 But then again, you never get totally used to it.

01:48:27.000 It's just like war.

01:48:28.000 You never get totally used to watching people die.

01:48:31.000 It's a horrible thing.

01:48:33.000 Well, my take on it is, we're not being negative.

01:48:36.000 What's negative is that people don't know we have this infection like gangrene, and we're trying to cut the rotten flesh off, and yeah, it doesn't feel good, but it's going to save the body.

01:48:46.000 And so to me, I don't get, quote, tired of it, because I know I need to basically lance the boil.

01:48:54.000 Well, I agree, and that's why at my advanced stage I keep doing this.

01:48:59.000 You know, people, the letters every day say, Please don't stop.

01:49:03.000 Please don't retire.

01:49:05.000 Do it as long as you can.

01:49:06.000 You know, keep us apprised of what's going on.

01:49:10.000 And so I do.

01:49:12.000 I mean, most people are in a rocking chair and playing golf every day or tennis or whatever they do.

01:49:18.000 And I'm not doing that.

01:49:20.000 Neither is my wife.

01:49:21.000 Well, that's good.

01:49:22.000 You're going to live a lot longer and be a lot sharper, Bob. 0.99

01:49:26.000 Well, I went to the doctor last week and he said, you're disgusting for 73 years old.

01:49:32.000 He says, I don't have anybody who's ever come in here that's been as good a shape as you are, even though I'm a little overweight.

01:49:39.000 And that's good.

01:49:42.000 Obviously, what I'm doing agrees with me.

01:49:45.000 Absolutely.

01:49:46.000 Well, it's just so sad to see these wicked criminals just having their way with people and not being caught, not getting in trouble.

01:49:53.000 But I agree with you.

01:49:54.000 I think they just got so greedy in their gang raping of the financial system that they now are going to bring their whole rotten mess down on us all.

01:50:03.000 Yeah, I think that is probably the bottom line on it.

01:50:07.000 Did you ever have G. Edward Griffith on the program?

01:50:11.000 Oh, I've had him on a lot, yeah.

01:50:13.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.

01:50:15.000 He and I and Alan Stang were, and Gary Allen, who was my partner, we were buddies back in 64.

01:50:21.000 I've known him all that long.

01:50:23.000 Of course, Gary's deceased now and has been for 22 years.

01:50:28.000 Well, it was Gary Allen who woke me up with his non-dare-call-a-conspiracy.

01:50:31.000 I mean, I already knew about a lot of history and had heard about this stuff, but I read that when I was about 16.

01:50:37.000 And then I went and checked a lot of it and found out it was true.

01:50:41.000 Boy, here we go, Bob.

01:50:42.000 Full transmission.

01:50:47.000 Okay, back to your phone calls with Bob Chapman.

01:50:51.000 Zaina in Florida, you're on the air.

01:50:53.000 Go ahead.

01:50:55.000 Yes, hello.

01:50:56.000 My name is Zaina, and I'm a representative of a movement that started in Georgia that enjoys people for good and forbids the wrong.

01:51:03.000 The name of my group is Bilal Wadaw and G-O-I, Guardians of Islam.

01:51:08.000 And our founder would like to speak to you and hold a convention with you if that's possible.

01:51:14.000 If you can take my information and give the brother a call at your earliest convenience, that would be perfect.

01:51:19.000 Well, let me give that to John.

01:51:21.000 He'll put you on hold here in a moment.

01:51:23.000 Do you have anything to say about what you've been hearing from Governor Ventura and Bob Chapman and others?

01:51:28.000 Yes.

01:51:28.000 Well, I'm African American, and it's no surprise that our government has been corrupt for a long time, but facing the current dangers of everyone that's starving and hurt, I think it's time for us to really start focusing on what we can do to better America.

01:51:42.000 That's why I called.

01:51:44.000 We can start introducing you to some people that, I guess, of other nationalities and around the world that's Muslim.

01:51:51.000 All right, thank you.

01:51:52.000 John, get her contact info.

01:51:55.000 I'm always happy to have folks on the show.

01:51:57.000 I don't know about conventions or travel.

01:51:59.000 I'm so tied down.

01:52:00.000 I'm going to 9-11 in New York.

01:52:01.000 I'm going to Denver to cover that melee.

01:52:04.000 And so we'll see what happens there.

01:52:07.000 But thank you, Zaina.

01:52:08.000 Jeremy in Kentucky, you're on the air with Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster.com.

01:52:13.000 Hello, Alex and Mr. Chapman.

01:52:16.000 Hey, I have a quick question and a comment, if I could, about Misadventure after the question.

01:52:20.000 Okay.

01:52:21.000 I understand the economic situation we're in, and I'm not trying to turn this into a spiritual question.

01:52:26.000 I just need to kind of know the initiative here.

01:52:29.000 You know, if you believe in God at all, or if you're a Christian, you know that in the end, the good always wins.

01:52:36.000 What is their drive?

01:52:38.000 To do all this when they know that their master is going to lose?

01:52:41.000 Well, number one, we cover the info and what you do with it is your decision.

01:52:45.000 And I want to get Bob's response to the important question you've asked about what is their drive.

01:52:50.000 There are some people who are sadistic, sociopathic, they tend to be sadistic psychopaths that are at the highest ranks.

01:52:57.000 They've always got to have more.

01:52:59.000 I mean, Caesar runs up to the ocean, he goes across and conquers You know, Albion or England.

01:53:07.000 They've always got to have more.

01:53:08.000 They're hyper-competitive to an insane level.

01:53:11.000 And they also like to be cruel.

01:53:13.000 And so they don't believe in God.

01:53:15.000 They don't believe in helping their species.

01:53:17.000 They are out for them. 0.80

01:53:18.000 They are cancer cells in the body politic.

01:53:21.000 Bob Chapman?

01:53:23.000 Cancer cells upon the entire peoples of the earth.

01:53:27.000 And basically it's Satan versus God.

01:53:32.000 And it boils just down to that, good versus evil.

01:53:36.000 And that's why we do what we do, and that's why they're doing what they're doing.

01:53:41.000 And in the final analysis, people will realize, because it is going to come to that, and it's not too far away.

01:53:47.000 Well, you know, people ask why I do what I do.

01:53:50.000 I burn with passion and desire to warn people.

01:53:54.000 I get mad at myself because I don't work hard enough, I'm not eloquent enough, I can't articulate my understanding.

01:54:02.000 Clear enough.

01:54:03.000 And I mean, I burn with desire to warn people.

01:54:06.000 I burn to reach new people.

01:54:08.000 I burn to warn people.

01:54:09.000 And it's because at an instinctive level, spiritual, whatever you want to call it, I know what comes around goes around.

01:54:15.000 And I know at an instinctive level, I can intellectually reason it out, and then you reap what you sow as a scientific fact.

01:54:21.000 I can intellectually, in the geopolitical realm, show you how it is a fact.

01:54:25.000 But just instinctively, I know killing a million Iraqis in the last seven years, last five and a half years, killing three million of them conservatively in the last eighteen, that is a great evil done in my country's name that besmirches my forefathers and besmirches my children in the future. 1.00

01:54:44.000 And that there's a law in the universe.

01:54:46.000 We're going to be hurt because of this.

01:54:48.000 We're going to pay for this.

01:54:50.000 And not just when we die, folks.

01:54:52.000 You pay in this life.

01:54:54.000 And so I'm trying to rectify that.

01:54:56.000 My instincts... Bob Chabon, do you see the point I'm making?

01:55:00.000 Absolutely.

01:55:01.000 And it's the same desire I have.

01:55:05.000 I won't take it.

01:55:07.000 I'm competitive enough that I must stop them from what they're doing.

01:55:12.000 Because what they're doing is wrong.

01:55:16.000 Now there's a term, crime against humanity.

01:55:18.000 This is a crime against our species.

01:55:23.000 Does that answer your question, Jeremy?

01:55:25.000 Yeah, I guess so.

01:55:26.000 I just had a quick statement about Jesse, if I could just make a statement real quick.

01:55:32.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:55:33.000 I am a soldier.

01:55:33.000 I'm not a former soldier.

01:55:35.000 I'm actually still stationed in the United States and I'm active duty.

01:55:40.000 And most soldiers are good people, you know.

01:55:41.000 They're fathers, they're sons, they're husbands.

01:55:43.000 And I'll tell you what, They won't tell you, but we're all wore out, you know?

01:55:48.000 And I've been studying all this stuff.

01:55:51.000 I've listened to you for a year.

01:55:52.000 I just got back from Iraq about a month ago, and I listened to you almost the entire time I was here over the internet, and you were my only source.

01:56:00.000 of entertainment and I gotta give it to you Alex.

01:56:03.000 You know it takes courage to do everything that we all do together.

01:56:07.000 I'll tell you what, I'm going to hold you over through this break for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers with Bob Chapman.

01:56:12.000 The final segment with Bob Chapman.

01:56:13.000 Take a few more calls and then get his basic economic analysis.

01:56:17.000 Any other key points he wants to make.

01:56:18.000 I'm going to try to get him back on later in the week as this develops.

01:56:21.000 TheInternationalForecaster.com is an invaluable source of information.

01:56:25.000 Final segment with Bob.

01:56:27.000 Straight ahead.

01:56:27.000 But Jeremy, stay there.

01:56:28.000 We're going to let you talk to Bob behind the scenes.

01:56:30.000 Here we go.

01:56:33.000 We're on the mark.

01:56:35.000 Okay, the Empire's on the run.

01:56:36.000 Jeremy, you say as your source of entertainment you were listening in Iraq or listening once you got back here?

01:56:43.000 No, I was listening over the internet.

01:56:44.000 I had internet in my room and I was listening to you every day.

01:56:47.000 In Iraq, okay, how many, because we see 75% of the donations, a total of about 40% of all political donations from the troops went to Ron Paul, the rest mainly to Barack Obama because they thought he was anti-war.

01:57:00.000 We see polls of 75% of the troops against the war a year ago.

01:57:05.000 What is the feeling of the forces over there right now and how many people over there are aware of the New World Order?

01:57:11.000 Well, you've got to understand is I'm actually in the Army, I'm a soldier, and I think most of his probably donations are probably Navy, Air Force, and Marines.

01:57:20.000 I'm in a special operations community, and they're completely compartmentalized.

01:57:25.000 If they are there, they're very silent.

01:57:28.000 I was kind of the only voice in my area, and telling you where I'm at right now, I went to that Ron Paul rally this past weekend, and I got to see how real this really is, and I finally got to be surrounded by people who think like me.

01:57:42.000 I know that there are out there in the military that understand what's going on, but where I'm at, I'm pretty much all alone, and I understand Mr. Ventura's frustration.

01:57:53.000 He probably feels like he's isolated, but I'll tell you, most of us soldiers have to give up so much time.

01:57:59.000 I know I lost my wife.

01:58:02.000 I'm divorced now.

01:58:02.000 I got two daughters, and I had to give up a lot of my own personal time, and I love Mr. Ventura.

01:58:10.000 I feel connected to all of you.

01:58:12.000 Because I think we're all brothers and sisters in God.

01:58:15.000 But I really wish he'd reconsider, because I really feel like you do.

01:58:18.000 He was kind of giving a hint that he's not going to run, but... Yeah, he kept saying, don't get mad at me if I don't.

01:58:24.000 He said, I'll still come on.

01:58:26.000 And then he said some things off air that I think I might have... I was trying to push him, and then he did sound like he's maybe not going to do it.

01:58:35.000 We'll find out tonight.

01:58:37.000 Bob Chapman, what do you say to these eloquent words we're hearing?

01:58:41.000 Well, I didn't listen to Mr. Ventura, and so I don't know what he said, but I'll tell you one thing, he's better than anybody else that's got a shot up there.

01:58:54.000 And so with that said, it would be a good idea if he was able to run.

01:59:01.000 Well, I totally agree with you.

01:59:03.000 How many tours do they make you spend overseas?

01:59:06.000 I've done three tours, Alex.

01:59:09.000 Wow.

01:59:09.000 Yeah.

01:59:10.000 And well, we need you.

01:59:12.000 And how many of the guys are going Looney Tunes from the stress?

01:59:16.000 Well, I'll tell you what, I can't give up a lot of information because I'm not trying to put myself, like you said, you got to pick your own battles.

01:59:22.000 But I had a very good guy, senior NCO, hang himself when he got back from Iraq.

01:59:27.000 It was really tough.

01:59:28.000 And that was because he didn't feel good about the mission?

01:59:31.000 I don't exactly know.

01:59:33.000 But all I know is after he did his rotation of seven months, He came home early, that's when he did it.

01:59:39.000 So I don't know what got to him, but it's really affecting the social.

01:59:42.000 You need to tell all those men, join the rebellion against the New World Order, and they'll get their moral compass back, they'll get their strength back, and they'll have the moral initiative, and they'll stop killing themselves.

01:59:55.000 We appreciate you.

01:59:56.000 Alright, here we go.

01:59:57.000 Final segment with Bob Chapman.

01:59:59.000 Listen, the world's a real place.

02:00:11.000 You can't live in decadence forever.

02:00:12.000 We're going into very hard times, ladies and gentlemen.

02:00:15.000 Everybody, including people in this movement, need to have a gut check.

02:00:18.000 Need to put out the maximum effort right now against the New World Order.

02:00:23.000 I thought Ventura would definitely run.

02:00:24.000 It didn't sound good when he kept hinting about, well, don't get mad at me if I don't run.

02:00:28.000 Alex, I'll do another interview with you before I go back to Mexico.

02:00:32.000 If he's gonna run for the Senate, he's not gonna be going back to Mexico.

02:00:38.000 So many people are running to, and we'll find out tonight on Larry King.

02:00:42.000 Bob Chapman, we were just talking for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, because we do some of the behind-the-scenes talking, talking to that Special Forces officer that just came back, and his commander just hung himself.

02:00:52.000 And we have record suicides.

02:00:55.000 In fact, I saw a report, it is 14 times any previous suicide numbers.

02:00:59.000 14 times!

02:01:02.000 I mean, they are killing themselves in mass.

02:01:04.000 And even men, when it's a righteous war, tend to break down a good percentage of them.

02:01:10.000 Or, they die young of heart attacks, so they're real reckless.

02:01:13.000 You know, I had a lot of veterans in my family, and they were old guys, and you'd see them, they were always ready to get in a fight with somebody, always macho, not a fake macho, reckless, you know, crazy.

02:01:24.000 And that was one tour.

02:01:26.000 Imagine five tours.

02:01:28.000 Imagine three tours.

02:01:29.000 Bob, I mean, one tour would fry most people in combat.

02:01:33.000 Three tours in combat?

02:01:35.000 I mean, again, it's just the elites breaking all their own rules, Bob.

02:01:39.000 They're doing things that are destroying their own power base.

02:01:43.000 Well, I think you're right about that.

02:01:46.000 And you're also right about the tours and the breakdown of the individual.

02:01:52.000 And it doesn't matter how smart or how unsmart you are.

02:02:00.000 It affects everybody.

02:02:03.000 It's an emotional thing.

02:02:05.000 And for anybody that's ever been in combat, they know that you never want to be there again.

02:02:11.000 And when you're asked to go three times, that's a little much.

02:02:17.000 And so you're right, they are breaking down the structure that they've created, this essentially mercenary force.

02:02:25.000 Because there's no draft involved.

02:02:27.000 Maybe there's a better word for it, but they call it a volunteer force.

02:02:33.000 And, you know, that's a tough way to make a living in make-believe wars, where the President has to lie to get us into a war to kill over a million people.

02:02:43.000 And it's just terrible.

02:02:45.000 I do a program on Friday with Drew Rains, and most of the listeners are active and retired military people, and I do it because of that.

02:02:55.000 I'm a veteran myself and most of the Marines and Navy, but we get a lot of people listening from the State Department.

02:03:02.000 And it's amazing the things that go on.

02:03:07.000 I don't know if I ever told you, but they told me on the program from the State Department that all of the embassies have a copy of my report every time it comes out.

02:03:19.000 And Washington is very upset that I am printing what I'm printing.

02:03:25.000 And so, Alex, we are getting to them, believe me.

02:03:30.000 Oh, listen, I know.

02:03:31.000 I found out five years ago.

02:03:32.000 I mean, photographs that entire councils of the diet have their interns boiling down my radio shows, giving them video clips, watching my films.

02:03:43.000 I mean, the Japanese government is, think of the responsibility. 0.92

02:03:49.000 I'm just some 34-year-old guy who's been hardcore doing this for 13 years, studying it before that, and I'm a loudmouth.

02:03:56.000 I go off the handle, the rest of it.

02:03:57.000 But, I mean, the responsibility of that, and I know, Bob, a lot of elites check out what you're writing and saying.

02:04:03.000 When I had State Department people on me and FBI and Army intelligence on me, I'd finally say, look, I know you coming up asking me questions.

02:04:12.000 I know you're with the government.

02:04:14.000 They'd say, well, Alex, we're just following what the, what the, what, it's to my face.

02:04:18.000 You know, when nobody was around me, we're just doing what the, you know, what the Commander-in-Chief tells us.

02:04:23.000 And I said, is there nothing you won't do?

02:04:25.000 And he goes, well, look, we don't like it either.

02:04:28.000 I mean, I had the goons following me, going, well, we don't like this either.

02:04:33.000 And I mean, they weren't just saying that. 1.00

02:04:34.000 They looked like a pile of crap. 1.00

02:04:36.000 I mean, you know, they looked like, they felt like they were a pile of dog crap. 1.00

02:04:39.000 And I hate to talk like that. 0.99

02:04:41.000 They, these were big men.

02:04:43.000 But they, they know they're bad.

02:04:44.000 They know they're working for the bad side.

02:04:46.000 They know, don't they, Bob?

02:04:47.000 They certainly do.

02:04:49.000 They certainly do.

02:04:51.000 And when they can stop people like you and I, or even get us incarcerated, they think, oh, maybe I'll get a promotion.

02:04:59.000 I mean, that's what their mindset is.

02:05:01.000 Now, I want to tell them something.

02:05:02.000 All you're going to get is bad luck, and that isn't some physical threat. 0.99

02:05:05.000 You are foolish if you don't know that when you do bad things, and that means especially messing with somebody who's putting the truth out, that the universe doesn't like that, do they, Bob? 0.99

02:05:16.000 They certainly don't. 1.00

02:05:17.000 And they're going to pay.

02:05:19.000 And how that will happen, I don't know.

02:05:21.000 And, you know, it's really not my place to make sure that They get payback for what they're doing.

02:05:29.000 There's other forces that will take care of that.

02:05:31.000 That's right.

02:05:31.000 That's how it works.

02:05:32.000 A few final calls.

02:05:33.000 Let's talk to Chris in Montreal, Canada, then Tony and Peggy.

02:05:36.000 Go ahead, Chris.

02:05:37.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman.

02:05:39.000 Hey, Alex.

02:05:40.000 Hey, Bob.

02:05:41.000 Good afternoon.

02:05:42.000 First, just a couple of comments.

02:05:44.000 I hope I'm not too off-topic.

02:05:46.000 First, I'd like to say that Truth Rising is excellent.

02:05:48.000 It's excellent.

02:05:49.000 The cinematography, the score, it's a beautiful, beautiful movie.

02:05:54.000 But my question was about legal militias.

02:05:58.000 Do they still exist?

02:05:59.000 I know that in the States and in Canada a lot of the militias have been absorbed either into the National Guard or in Canada, the Reserves, but I'm not really a hundred percent clear on it.

02:06:10.000 Yeah, that's the organized.

02:06:12.000 Okay, well let me tell you real fast.

02:06:13.000 The organized militia wasn't set up until 1906 as the National Guards.

02:06:19.000 All the Federalist Papers, all the court cases I mean, that's why a sheriff could deputize, but you had to do what he said.

02:06:28.000 That was an instant draft by the elected representative, could say, you're coming with me, somebody just killed, you know, some kid, just raped some girl, we're going to chase them if it's across five states.

02:06:38.000 There was no jurisdiction, they went after them.

02:06:41.000 So that's when the people were the government, now there's the mistrust of the corrupt government of the people.

02:06:46.000 So militias are totally legal, totally lawful, It is your right and duty, 18 to 49, and in enduring emergencies they can call people out even 65.

02:06:54.000 The governor, the county commissioners, the sheriff, the city cannot call out the militia.

02:07:01.000 It's a state function and through state chartered institutions.

02:07:05.000 But the problem is they infiltrate militias and people try to set them up and then feds even try to become leaders to then send everybody to prison No, I think you've covered it fully.

02:07:27.000 That's just the way it is, and the government has done that, and they've tried to do that to me several times.

02:07:34.000 In fact, they've gone to friends of mine and told them that they want them to give all the information they can and spy upon me.

02:07:42.000 And I didn't know it until years later.

02:07:43.000 Of course, he didn't do that.

02:07:45.000 And before he died, he told me that they had come and threatened him and so on and so forth.

02:07:51.000 And and so they do do those things.

02:07:54.000 Well, yeah, I'm fully aware of the undermining of any any effort like this.

02:08:01.000 Yeah.

02:08:01.000 And like I said, I was just wondering if I mean, I know I know they're illegal, but they've been demonized and... Yeah, but see, the Second Amendment is... Montana militia is renowned for being these kooks, but I know what a militia is.

02:08:12.000 I know they're not nuts, and I was just wondering why this isn't happening more en masse.

02:08:17.000 Like, you would think that as many organized militias as you can in as many places would be very... Chris, let me move on and explain what happened.

02:08:27.000 The militia movement had state representatives behind it.

02:08:32.000 Oklahoma passed an anti-UN law and called out the militia.

02:08:36.000 Then the feds went in there and blew a federal building to Kingdom Come to blame it on the militia.

02:08:41.000 People would try to form militias.

02:08:43.000 And then Feds would infiltrate and provocateur. 0.97

02:08:46.000 I mean, I've gone out to pro-Second Amendment meetings that the government here considers a militia, and we had Feds come to it, and locals, and say, let's blow things up and kill police, and then we'd follow them out in the parking lot, and they thought we were so dumb, they were driving unmarked police cars, and then we'd follow the cop home, and he'd say, leave me alone, okay, I was just spying on you.

02:09:05.000 I mean, they spy on anti-war groups. 0.98

02:09:07.000 They're criminal dirtbags.

02:09:10.000 And so, you know, the point is, is that when they attack your Second Amendment right, that's an attack on the militia. 0.80

02:09:17.000 Okay?

02:09:19.000 The militia is you being armed and having a few of your friends you've known for your lifetime saying, we're not going to a FEMA camp, and if anybody tries to take us and our family, we're going to stick together.

02:09:29.000 That's a militia.

02:09:30.000 Okay?

02:09:31.000 Bob, do you agree with that?

02:09:33.000 Absolutely.

02:09:34.000 Yeah, I mean, folks, let me tell you what's valuable.

02:09:36.000 Storable foods, water filters, skills, firearms, the willingness to defend yourself.

02:09:43.000 Okay, and if enough of us just, it's like porcupines.

02:09:45.000 Wolves leave them alone. 0.99

02:09:46.000 We're not looking for trouble.

02:09:47.000 I mean, I think our flag ought to be a porcupine.

02:09:49.000 It's just, we're like, do not mess with us.

02:09:52.000 Just, you know, leave us alone.

02:09:54.000 And we're purely defensive.

02:09:56.000 But I don't like shooting my mouth off.

02:09:59.000 The point is, is if they try to put you in labor camps, take your kids, you don't have a choice at that point, folks.

02:10:05.000 Bob?

02:10:07.000 I agree completely.

02:10:09.000 Absolutely.

02:10:10.000 And I preach it on the air all the time, and I'm one of the few newsletter writers, and your personality on radio, that come out and say such things.

02:10:20.000 There's only a handful of people that have got the guts to do it.

02:10:23.000 Well, I mean, it's real simple.

02:10:26.000 It is a moral right and a duty, if they try to take you and your families to camps, to resist that with lethal force.

02:10:33.000 And all the federal rulings say that.

02:10:35.000 When the government is engaging in crime, I don't care if they say crime is legal.

02:10:39.000 You have a right and duty to protect yourself.

02:10:41.000 And I don't know how they've drummed the instincts out of so many men and women to let them take your children and the rest of it. 0.76

02:10:47.000 I mean, when you lay down like cowards, folks, they win. 0.91

02:10:51.000 Okay? 0.98

02:10:51.000 We don't have a choice. 0.98

02:10:53.000 And, uh, quit pushing.

02:10:54.000 I mean, I'm just telling people in government, you're in the wrong, you're not God, and, and, and, and, and... Oh my God.

02:11:02.000 And there is consequences.

02:11:05.000 Now, there are consequences, folks.

02:11:06.000 I'm not happy about this.

02:11:08.000 I'm not... This is the real world.

02:11:10.000 Peggy in PA, and then Ariane in the Netherlands.

02:11:13.000 Go ahead, Peggy.

02:11:14.000 No, Tony in Australia.

02:11:15.000 We gotta move fast.

02:11:16.000 Tony in Australia, go ahead.

02:11:20.000 You there, Alex?

02:11:21.000 Yes, I am.

02:11:22.000 Go ahead.

02:11:24.000 Yeah.

02:11:25.000 I just wanted to ring and say that I thought it was important for Governor Ventura to get into politics.

02:11:30.000 You need a bit of sanity in government over there, and I think you'd be just perfect for the job.

02:11:38.000 A few things I wanted to mention.

02:11:42.000 You keep on predicting what will happen in America.

02:11:45.000 They're already happening here.

02:11:46.000 They mistest pensions.

02:11:50.000 If you've saved up a little money, you either don't get the pension or They reduce it.

02:11:55.000 They're using the military to police Aboriginal settlements in the outback.

02:12:03.000 And they're going to bring in carbon trading in 2010 with not very adequate explanation.

02:12:15.000 Illegal aliens are put into detention camps in the outback.

02:12:19.000 They can't get adequate medical attention for their children.

02:12:22.000 And the list just goes on and on and on.

02:12:24.000 So, what you're predicting is already happening.

02:12:28.000 That's right, the Australian government.

02:12:30.000 There was a real Crocodile Dundee.

02:12:32.000 He looked just like the guy in the movie.

02:12:33.000 And what was it?

02:12:34.000 In 1998, he wouldn't turn his guns and they came out to his house and murdered him.

02:12:39.000 Well, I wouldn't believe it.

02:12:41.000 Yeah, they've almost completely disarmed you guys out there and they're CPSing your children for no reason.

02:12:48.000 Yeah, I'm fully aware Australia is really bad now.

02:12:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:54.000 And the Pope is visiting this week and has virtually introduced martial law in Sydney to control the population.

02:13:02.000 You're not allowed to wear certain t-shirts in case it upsets people, that type of thing.

02:13:07.000 Yeah, they're getting used to no free speech, no nothing, yeah.

02:13:11.000 Yeah, so what in effect is happening is that they've got all the procedures now in place, What people don't realize is if they can use the military to control aboriginal settlements, if they can put illegal aliens in detention camps and not provide adequate medical attention for the children, they can do it to anybody.

02:13:32.000 No, no, that's absolutely right, sir, and call me back again.

02:13:35.000 I want to hear more from you.

02:13:36.000 We've got to go, because Bob's got to go in just a moment.

02:13:38.000 I've got some final news that's very important I want to cover.

02:13:41.000 Bob, I mean, he said it all right there, and he's right.

02:13:44.000 In England, in Australia, it is classical tyranny now, where they're even arresting mainstream reporters now.

02:13:50.000 I mean, it's getting bad.

02:13:52.000 Yeah, and you can't even take your children to school unless you've been cleared and it's proven you're not a criminal, and very often Uh, they will assign a criminal background to somebody who's not criminal.

02:14:06.000 And then you have to go fight them to prove that you are not a criminal.

02:14:10.000 Yeah, the government is... It's unbelievable.

02:14:12.000 Folks, the government went rogue.

02:14:13.000 That happens nine times out of ten.

02:14:15.000 It happened here.

02:14:16.000 Folks, you can't screw around anymore.

02:14:19.000 They built camps.

02:14:20.000 They got people working for them.

02:14:23.000 Every criminal you can... They're openly hiring felons.

02:14:26.000 Sheriff departments all over the U.S.

02:14:28.000 are hiring felons.

02:14:29.000 Not just the military now.

02:14:31.000 I mean, the government's criminal!

02:14:33.000 End of story!

02:14:35.000 Two final calls real fast.

02:14:36.000 Let's go to Arion in the Netherlands.

02:14:38.000 I want to go to them first.

02:14:39.000 Go ahead, Arion.

02:14:41.000 Hi, Alex.

02:14:42.000 This is Arion Blauw calling from the Netherlands.

02:14:44.000 Can you hear me?

02:14:46.000 Yes, sir.

02:14:48.000 Okay.

02:14:49.000 I would like to thank you for all those years.

02:14:51.000 I've been listening for more than seven years now, dating the pre-9-11 era.

02:14:55.000 I was amazed when you were doing the prediction in June of that year.

02:15:02.000 I want to just move on quickly towards the emergency food here in Holland.

02:15:08.000 The New World Order has taken over, all but taken over.

02:15:11.000 You know, it's a lot of stuff that is being, you know, being placed on the Internet.

02:15:17.000 People are no longer free.

02:15:20.000 There's so much stuff that is happening right now and people are just sleeping while they should be preparing.

02:15:26.000 Last week I just ordered a large stock stack of food for at the food direct dot com and we are just you know i've been busy from two thousand four to prepare a big retreat for people to go away from europe into south africa to live off the grid over there it's something that we've been working off for years and years and finally it seems to give off some fruit and i believe you know that uh...

02:15:55.000 iran is going to be bombed I've got some information.

02:15:58.000 Bob is not sure.

02:15:59.000 I understand.

02:16:01.000 You know, Bob, I respect you very much.

02:16:04.000 Your analysis, I respect it awfully a lot.

02:16:09.000 But I do see in Daniel 8 that first Iraq was going to be bombed, and later on Iran will be bombed, and Israel will take much of the brunt of that attack that is yet to come.

02:16:21.000 Well, I know this.

02:16:21.000 All the rich billionaire Jews are leaving.

02:16:24.000 Call me back tomorrow. 0.78

02:16:25.000 The show's almost over.

02:16:25.000 I've got to end it right there.

02:16:27.000 We'll get to Peggy in the final segment if we have time. 0.94

02:16:29.000 Sorry, Peggy can't talk to Bob Chapman.

02:16:31.000 I wanted to plug theinternationalforecaster.com.

02:16:34.000 If people want to get a free hard copy of it, what number do they call to get a sample copy, Bob?

02:16:39.000 800-375-4188. 800-375-4188.

02:16:49.000 Or they can go to the site theinternationalforecaster.com.

02:16:55.000 Bob, I tell you what, you've got about three more minutes.

02:16:57.000 Let me hold you through, I mean, into this behind-the-scenes break, but at least folks watching on the web and on TV at PrisonPlanet.tv can hear me go to Peggy.

02:17:05.000 We're going to come back in the final segment with a recap of some newly developed financial news.

02:17:10.000 The banks, the private Federal Reserve, dumping our tax money in, you're going to fit the bill, can't even prop the stock market up.

02:17:17.000 I want to get Bob's take on that and then talk to Peggy for three more minutes, then we'll come back in the final segment.

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02:17:31.000 I'm not risking my life for nothing here.

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02:17:43.000 Okay, tell Ted Standby I want to talk to him in the final segment.

02:17:46.000 Right now, Bob, I wanted to talk to you right now.

02:17:49.000 Again, give that number out one more time for those that may have missed it.

02:17:54.000 Do we have Bob Chapman there?

02:17:58.000 John?

02:17:58.000 That's 800-375-4188.

02:17:58.000 Say it again, you were faded down.

02:17:59.000 800-375-4188.

02:18:01.000 Say it again.

02:18:02.000 You were faded down. 800-375-4188. 800-375-4188.

02:18:12.000 Or TheInternationalForecaster.com.

02:18:14.000 Send an email and get a free email version there.

02:18:16.000 Don't waste your time.

02:18:17.000 Just pay for the subscription and get the whole thing.

02:18:19.000 And you want to get the electronic if you can.

02:18:21.000 For those that can't, get the hard copy.

02:18:23.000 It's great stuff.

02:18:24.000 You get a lot more than you learn here just on the air.

02:18:26.000 Bob, I want to get you to pop in probably every day for 10-15 minutes.

02:18:30.000 And if things melt down further, so look at your book right now.

02:18:34.000 Here on air for everybody.

02:18:35.000 When can I get you on tomorrow?

02:18:39.000 Let me pull my schedule up here.

02:18:42.000 And I have it.

02:18:44.000 And, um, tomorrow, um, uh, before two o'clock, your time is okay.

02:18:52.000 All right.

02:18:53.000 Let's get you on it at noon tomorrow.

02:18:56.000 Uh, that's hold on.

02:18:57.000 Let me get a pen here.

02:18:59.000 Uh, noon.

02:19:00.000 Yeah.

02:19:00.000 For 30 minutes.

02:19:03.000 Uh, that's noon.

02:19:04.000 Your time would be.

02:19:09.000 Okay, I got that.

02:19:10.000 Okay, good.

02:19:11.000 Let's take one final call from Peggy.

02:19:13.000 Peggy and P.A.

02:19:13.000 are on the air with Bob Chapman.

02:19:15.000 Go ahead.

02:19:15.000 Hi, Alex.

02:19:18.000 Sweden is not in the EU yet.

02:19:21.000 They just passed a law just a few days ago that the internet was going to be censored, or at least their emails and so on were going to be listened to by the government.

02:19:33.000 Are they new world order?

02:19:35.000 Who?

02:19:35.000 Sweden.

02:19:37.000 Oh, of course.

02:19:38.000 Europe is all in the New World Order.

02:19:41.000 They're banning free speech everywhere, arresting people for no reason.

02:19:44.000 I mean, hardcore tyrannies upon us.

02:19:47.000 I'm just still around because I'm a big fish.

02:19:49.000 I mean, we're going in to the hardcore tyranny.

02:19:53.000 Bob Chapman?

02:19:55.000 I agree.

02:19:56.000 And it's just going to get maliciously worse.

02:20:00.000 And again, the only thing out there is a program like this Where people can hear the truth and perhaps do something about it.

02:20:09.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a malicious bully trying to intimidate you like a man beating a woman to make her do what he says. 1.00

02:20:15.000 And he's like grabbing you around the neck going, listen to me, you bitch! 1.00

02:20:18.000 Do you hear what I'm saying to you? 1.00

02:20:19.000 I'll knock the rest of your teeth out unless you do what I say. 0.98

02:20:22.000 I mean, that's what they're they're trying to intimidate us right now.

02:20:24.000 And it's because they're scared.

02:20:26.000 Don't you agree, Bob?

02:20:27.000 Absolutely.

02:20:28.000 People only do that when they're frightened and they know they're losing their grip.

02:20:33.000 And they are just absolutely out of their minds and saying that you're on the air, and I'm on the air, and people like us are on the air.

02:20:41.000 And people are listening.

02:20:42.000 Still beaming it out.

02:20:43.000 That's right.

02:20:43.000 Bob Chapman, we'll talk to you tomorrow at noon.

02:20:45.000 God bless.

02:20:45.000 Take care, Peggy.

02:20:46.000 Bye-bye.

02:20:47.000 Good job, Bob.

02:20:47.000 On the GCN Radio Network.

02:20:52.000 I fell into a...

02:20:54.000 All right, final segment.

02:20:55.000 Folks, retransmission starts with Jesse Ventura for more than an hour.

02:21:01.000 Key economic analysis where I cover the news in the first hour and what we're facing starts on the web only at Infowars.com.

02:21:09.000 The next few hours for PrisonPlanet.tv members we'll have the Jesse Ventura video hosted.

02:21:15.000 I want to spend four minutes with Ted Anderson.

02:21:16.000 I had him on for about five minutes in the first hour, too.

02:21:20.000 Ted is selling gold and silver that he bought, that he locked in this morning before it went up by 15 plus dollars.

02:21:28.000 Gold and silver.

02:21:30.000 And Ted literally makes no money on this.

02:21:33.000 He pays the brokers like 2% to take the order.

02:21:36.000 But Ted's doing this to introduce you to metals, physically holding them, and it's because you're my listeners.

02:21:41.000 You're going to pay $970 something if you buy gold anywhere right now, but Ted has it locked in, and it's somewhat numismatic.

02:21:49.000 It has collector value.

02:21:50.000 The coin he's offering, British sovereigns, European francs, Swiss and French francs, and the American silver dollars.

02:22:00.000 I don't know.

02:22:00.000 Each one of the coins he was selling, the silver dollars were at $1, or about 90 cents above spot.

02:22:07.000 You can't get them at that.

02:22:08.000 And that was at the cost this morning when he locked them in.

02:22:10.000 They're below spot.

02:22:11.000 The silver is an insane deal.

02:22:14.000 And I feel good supporting the network, but mainly supporting you folks when you hurt the New World Order and transfer some of your Federal Reserve notes, because you can pull your Federal Reserve notes out of the bank.

02:22:23.000 They're just going to devalue there, too.

02:22:28.000 It's an amazing feeling the little bit of capital we've got is there to fund the operation.

02:22:33.000 That's why I'm rushing to get the cameras, build the stage for the TV show, to spend the money we got from the money bomb before it's devalued the next year and a half.

02:22:42.000 You know, we are just last ditch.

02:22:44.000 We're not running off with our little nest egg.

02:22:47.000 We are expending it to fight the New World Order.

02:22:49.000 But that doesn't mean you shouldn't protect your nest egg.

02:22:52.000 Ted, I mean, we've seen the markets go crazy today.

02:22:55.000 They pumped billions Into the stock market, it still went down.

02:22:59.000 This is getting scarier and scarier, Ted.

02:23:01.000 Oh, it sure is.

02:23:02.000 It's amazing to see what happened to those bank stocks today.

02:23:05.000 I mean, it just, they dropped like a stone.

02:23:07.000 We're talking about major banks.

02:23:09.000 Yeah, tell folks real fast what happened.

02:23:11.000 Yeah, well, you'd have to just look at the indexes and look at it, but you can take a couple of examples here.

02:23:16.000 If you just look at some of the major banks, Citicorp, Zion, Washington Mutual, all that stuff just fell to the floor.

02:23:23.000 Of course, IndyMac went down from about $30 a share, almost to zero now.

02:23:30.000 And the market's just getting beat up like crazy.

02:23:32.000 Gold and silver both up.

02:23:34.000 $9.76 gold and silver $19.26.

02:23:37.000 A tremendous increase today in that market.

02:23:41.000 I'm real surprised to see that happen this time of the year.

02:23:43.000 Yeah, for those that don't know, headline, Feds spell out Freddie Mac plan.

02:23:47.000 Which bank will fail next?

02:23:50.000 Borrowers line up in California withdraw their cash from Citigroup.

02:23:54.000 1.1 trillion of mysterious assets.

02:23:57.000 Shadows earnings.

02:23:58.000 I mean, it's meltdown.

02:24:00.000 I'm praying everybody's right and we got a year or two before the depression hits.

02:24:04.000 I mean, it's not a question of if, but when now, Ted.

02:24:06.000 How do folks call and get gold and silver at insane prices?

02:24:10.000 Well, right now, 1-800-686-2237.

02:24:10.000 Again, 1-800-686-2237.

02:24:15.000 686-2237.

02:24:18.000 We have the Frank coins, like you mentioned.

02:24:20.000 They're at $212.

02:24:22.000 We also have the Sovereign coins, too.

02:24:26.000 Another great buy.

02:24:26.000 They're at $286.

02:24:29.000 And those rolls of Silver coins, like you said, right now at $202 per roll of $20.

02:24:34.000 That is just insane.

02:24:36.000 And again, very short time ago, Alex, Silver wasn't even available on the marketplace.

02:24:40.000 I couldn't sell them.

02:24:41.000 So call 800-686-2237 and take advantage of this.

02:24:46.000 You need to.

02:24:47.000 Take a look at what's happening in that banking industry.

02:24:49.000 It's enough to frighten anybody.

02:24:50.000 Yeah, this is just bracing for impact here, ladies and gentlemen, and it's only going to get worse.

02:24:55.000 Politicians are telling you everything's wonderful as everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

02:24:59.000 Meanwhile, Dick Cheney, two years ago, sold all his dollars for euros and bought a house in Dubai.

02:25:04.000 Bush is moving to Paraguay.

02:25:06.000 Carl Rove left the country last week under subpoena and is now under indictment.

02:25:10.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:25:11.000 Thanks, Ted.

02:25:13.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

02:25:15.000 Retransmission starts now at the one, the only Infowars.com.

02:25:19.000 Retransmission at Infowars.com.

Alex Jones Show - July 14, 2008

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