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00:00:00.000 We sit in the house and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller and all we say is, please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms.

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00:05:58.000 Back in February of this year, an article was written by former Congressman Dan Hamburg for the San Francisco Chronicle that got a lot of attention around the nation, and rightfully so.

00:06:12.000 It was titled, Rule by Fear or Rule by Law?

00:06:16.000 Reposted a link to that up on InfoWars.com.

00:06:21.000 The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is the highest degree odious, and is the foundation of all totalitarian governments, whether Nazi or Communist.

00:06:39.000 And then he gets into the concentration camps for American citizens that are mainstream, declassified, the secret arrest, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

00:06:49.000 It is not rumor.

00:06:50.000 It is not some wild fantasy.

00:06:52.000 It is undeniable fact.

00:06:57.000 And the Democrats have now been in office for over a year and a half.

00:07:02.000 They are actually intensifying all these powers.

00:07:06.000 They are Calling for even more powers.

00:07:12.000 They are giving aid and comfort to the enemy of the Republic, George Bush and his criminal cohorts.

00:07:18.000 They have passed the warrantless spying against the American people.

00:07:22.000 They want the power when George Bush is gone, if he ever leaves.

00:07:27.000 This is why I'm nonpartisan.

00:07:29.000 When I first woke up politically, I was a libertarian-style Republican until I figured out they were as bad or worse, depending on which administration.

00:07:37.000 We just had Ted Nugent on.

00:07:39.000 He means well, but he loves the police state on one hand and then hates it on the other, supporting the phony drug war, which is sad.

00:07:53.000 And then you have the left that loves liberty on one hand but then tries to take it away on the other on so many other issues.

00:08:01.000 We have to get a culture of liberty back.

00:08:03.000 That takes the tools.

00:08:05.000 Of the elite away.

00:08:06.000 That takes their mechanisms to dominate and oppress populations away.

00:08:10.000 We're very honored for the next 15 minutes to be joined by the Congressman, Dan Hamburg, because a lot has happened in the last five months since he was with us, and I was amazed at his depth and breadth of knowledge, and wish he was still in the Congress.

00:08:28.000 You know, we love people that support liberty and freedom and understand what's happening, whether it's Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul.

00:08:33.000 To us, it's non-partisan.

00:08:34.000 It's an issue of not going into total martial law.

00:08:38.000 Now the economy's imploding by design.

00:08:40.000 The dollar's being annihilated by design.

00:08:42.000 We're on the verge of attacking Iran or supporting an attack against Iran. 0.88

00:08:47.000 The White House has come out and said, make no mistake, we support Israel attacking Iran today.

00:08:53.000 And so joining us for the next 50 minutes is Dan Hamburg.

00:08:56.000 Mr. Hamburg, good to have you here with us.

00:08:58.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:08:59.000 Good to be here.

00:09:00.000 Your comments on the left-right paradigm, sir, it paralyzes us, in my opinion, as the elite co-ops, both the left and the right, and its agenda moves forward.

00:09:10.000 Your response to the left-right paradigm, and do you agree that it's hamstringing us or bogging us down in the muck?

00:09:17.000 And if you do, how do we get around that?

00:09:20.000 Well, I think one thing that's happening is that the left and the right are finding the places where they meet.

00:09:28.000 Places where they share a profound disillusionment with the way the government is being run.

00:09:36.000 And that's why you see people, like yesterday, I was watching a clip of these hearings that John Conyers has convened, you know, at Dennis Kucinich's request, and I was glad to see Bob Barr.

00:09:50.000 You know, sitting right next to Elizabeth Holtzman and Bruce Fine, who's known as a conservative constitutional scholar, sitting there on that same table of witnesses.

00:10:02.000 And that was encouraging to me, that, you know, people as far on the right as Barr, who a lot of your listeners probably remember was a key figure in the Clinton impeachment, you know, sitting right next to a very liberal former Congresswoman,

00:10:18.000 Elizabeth Holtzman, And sharing the same idea, that idea being that if we, the people, don't stand up to this hollowing out of the values and the ideals that actually are the basis for the formation of this country, then we don't have much left.

00:10:39.000 And, you know, I'm encouraged that the right and the left can do that.

00:10:43.000 I totally share your chagrin at war, your disgust, your anger.

00:10:49.000 I feel the same way at what we've seen out of the Democrats over the last year and a half.

00:10:55.000 I saw a little clip this morning on Free Speech TV of Nancy Pelosi.

00:11:01.000 She was on this TV program called The View.

00:11:03.000 That's a very popular show.

00:11:05.000 And one of the women on The View said to Pelosi, you know, what is going on?

00:11:09.000 We're a year and a half into your regime of leading the House.

00:11:16.000 Nothing's been done to stop George I just think that things are getting to the boiling point here, where people are extremely upset,

00:11:41.000 I could see the possibility, though, that if Obama were to win the presidency and become president and were to continue to govern the country in a very similar mode to what we've been seeing over the past years, 30 years, that people, you know, may finally reach that point at which they say, hey, this whole thing is just not working.

00:12:09.000 I agree.

00:12:10.000 We have Congress with a 9% approval rating, the lowest it's ever been.

00:12:13.000 That shows the people know the system is broken, and they think because they can put a brown face up there that that'll somehow fool people that it's a change. 0.85

00:12:23.000 The population could care less what color he is.

00:12:26.000 They want real change, and they're now starting to figure out, him voting for the warrantless spying, now saying he's for other military actions, that I do see the left faster than the right's woken up to Bush, becoming horrified.

00:12:41.000 What do you see happening?

00:12:42.000 I mean, of congressmen, businessmen, you know...

00:12:44.000 Well, I want to just...

00:12:47.000 What do you see happening in the future?

00:12:49.000 Well, you know, one thing, Paul Craig Roberts, I'm sure you're familiar with the stuff that he writes.

00:12:56.000 You know, he's the guy who was an assistant treasury secretary under Reagan.

00:13:00.000 He was associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.

00:13:02.000 So there's a guy with plenty of conservative credentials.

00:13:07.000 And Paul Craig Roberts says You know what is really going to hit the fan about two years into Obama's first term when people realize that everything's the same.

00:13:18.000 That nothing's really changing except maybe interest rates will be raised because the United States is going broke and it's got to figure out a way to attract more foreign capital to keep this whole thing from just falling over.

00:13:33.000 The other thing, though, before we get to November of this year, is what are the neocons going to do?

00:13:41.000 And I wrote an article with Louis Seiler that was published pretty broadly in August.

00:13:50.000 No, wait a minute.

00:13:51.000 I guess it was in June, in which we laid out our belief that the neocons are not going to hand the keys to the car over to Barack Obama or anyone else who presents the slightest threat to them.

00:14:06.000 And we were raising the alarm.

00:14:09.000 That there could be, uh, there certainly could be an attack on Iran, uh, initiated by Israel, or initiated, you know, by a false flag attack, or whatever.

00:14:20.000 A huge, a huge October surprise, or a bundle, a bundle of October surprises.

00:14:25.000 Well, that is totally, totally, uh, possible.

00:14:29.000 And also, we threw up an associate of ours, uh, Wayne Mattson, we began looking at what was going on, particularly at the port of Houston, and, uh, Carnaby.

00:14:43.000 high-ranking CIA agent, Carnaby, and trying to figure out what the hell was going on down there and what the reason was that a couple of Houston cops shot a CIA operative whose only crime seemed to be that he knew too much.

00:15:00.000 So, you know, there's two big things out there that I'm particularly concerned about.

00:15:05.000 One is the possibility of an expanded war in the Middle East, And the other is the possibility of a false flag attack, which really, you know, we know that the only polling data that looks good for John McCain is that which has to do with national security.

00:15:24.000 In every other category, you know, he's way, way down below Obama.

00:15:29.000 So, you know, his own guy, Charlie Black, said it.

00:15:33.000 He said, you know, the only thing, you know, it would really help our campaign if there was Another 9-11 between now and election day.

00:15:42.000 And I think he's right.

00:15:45.000 I do think they need something that extreme in order to ensure that John McCain is the next president and thereby ensure that their current program will not be interrupted.

00:16:00.000 And this is a very real threat when we have Gary Hart coming out And writing letters to Ahmadinejad of Iran saying, our government stages terror attacks.

00:16:10.000 Don't think for a minute that because 80 plus percent of Americans are against a war that we won't stage something.

00:16:18.000 And then we went and interviewed him.

00:16:20.000 We are changing it.

00:16:21.000 It's in my film, Truth Rising.

00:16:22.000 And said, you said the government stages events.

00:16:26.000 And he said, yes, the government may stage events.

00:16:29.000 And then Zbigniew Brzezinski went before the Senate, as you know, last year and said the same thing.

00:16:34.000 And then we have all these Republican memos coming out and saying it.

00:16:37.000 It's almost like it's an open secret now.

00:16:40.000 And I'll never forget in 2002 when there was a 9-11 investigation starting in Congress.

00:16:44.000 So they created the 9-11 whitewash commission to overshadow it and preempt it.

00:16:49.000 And Cheney on, it was meet the press or face the nation.

00:16:51.000 I've got the clip around here somewhere.

00:16:54.000 He says, well, there better not be an investigation of 9-11.

00:16:57.000 That will frustrate us in fighting terror, and then it will assure a nuclear attack, and then he made this threatening look.

00:17:03.000 I mean...

00:17:04.000 Well, then, you know, when he says stuff like that, I start wondering about the, uh, you know, the disappearance of the six nuclear bombs that were flown from, you know, the air base in North Dakota down to Louisiana.

00:17:16.000 And that whole incident, which led to the firing of Mosley and Wynn, the two top people in the Air Force, Stay there.

00:17:45.000 Stay there.

00:17:45.000 Gotta break.

00:17:46.000 We'll be right back with a former congressman.

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00:23:03.000 I want to go back to what you were talking about with Houston and the North Dakota nukes and all the things we see happening.

00:23:10.000 And I want to go back to now, five months later, the article you wrote with just all the facts and links to the government admissions to this huge system of oppression that's being built.

00:23:21.000 And now I guess they're preparing to hand off the Democrats, but you're saying that may not even happen.

00:23:25.000 You know, my guess is that Dick Cheney and his little cabal will not...

00:23:35.000 go down without a fight.

00:23:37.000 I mean, I think there's a struggle going on within the administration.

00:23:40.000 I think that Bob Gates is on one side of it.

00:23:43.000 I think Cheney's on the other side of it.

00:23:45.000 And, of course, there's lots of other underlings on both sides.

00:23:48.000 But I think that both the Minot Air Force Base transfer of cruise missiles down to Louisiana, down to Barksdale, which is the staging base.

00:24:01.000 Yes. That national

00:24:32.000 intelligence estimate said that in fact Iran had seriously curtailed, if not stopped, their efforts in 2003 at that.

00:24:40.000 And then a third thing, this whole thing with Carnaby being murdered by the Houston police because it seemed like he simply knew too much about the security lapses that were happening at the Port of Houston, and that there were officers down there as part of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which is the FBI and the CIA, Down doing security to the Port of Houston, there were agents there who were saying, why aren't we tightening security here?

00:25:10.000 Why on this 25 mile channel, which is one of the most explosive places on planet Earth, and one of the most easily accessed, I think it's the port into which more foreign goods come than any other port in the United States.

00:25:27.000 That's right.

00:25:28.000 They say that the biggest man-made disaster in U.S. history, as far as material, was back in the 40s when that ammonium nitrate ship blew up down there.

00:25:40.000 And these agents down there, I mean, again, according to Matt, they're saying, why is there no security here?

00:25:47.000 And, you know, you start to wonder, well, why was there no security at the World Trade Center?

00:25:51.000 Why did all those squadrons of naval planes stay on the tarmac when Four planes were hijacked on the eastern seaboard of the United States on November 11th.

00:26:02.000 In June, in June, Cheney took the shoot-down power that the military had as a default since 57 and he took that power unto himself in order to stand down.

00:26:14.000 Well, Cheney is probably the most powerful and certainly one of the most malevolent creatures on the planet today.

00:26:22.000 And he is still in a position of great power For one thing, he seems to own the president, if not the presidency.

00:26:30.000 And then, of course, there's the whole issue, which we haven't really gotten into yet, which is what that February article that Louis Seiler and I wrote was about, which is that the United States is very likely, in its current form, in a continuity of government mode, which means that there is only one brand that the checks and balances have effectively been tossed aside.

00:26:55.000 In favor of this unitary executive where all power resides in the Oval Office.

00:27:02.000 And this is totally against everything that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights stands for.

00:27:10.000 And not only do the American people not seem to realize this, I know they don't, but I don't think even members of Congress realize that their power has been almost totally taken away, if not totally taken away.

00:27:24.000 We saw that for one thing...

00:27:26.000 Congressman, we got a break again.

00:27:27.000 Let's come back and talk about that right now.

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00:31:15.000 that I We're talking to Daniel Hamburg, former Democratic Congressman from California.

00:31:22.000 National Congressman.

00:31:27.000 And he's one of the good guys.

00:31:32.000 You know, I scream and yell about this all day.

00:31:35.000 PDD 51, amongst other things, the President has declared a unitary executive, saying that the other branches of government are not co-equal.

00:31:43.000 Now, that is even a more modern view.

00:31:46.000 They were co-equal.

00:31:47.000 You read that the Founding Fathers pretty much unanimously said there were debates about this, the Federalists, the Anti-Federalists.

00:31:52.000 The only person that wanted the President to have more power than anybody was Alexander Hamilton, and he wanted him to be a king.

00:31:59.000 But everybody else, and the federal court rulings, and how our government works, is the Congress, because you have more members there, and they represent their local districts.

00:32:10.000 It has the most power.

00:32:12.000 It passes the laws, and then the president executes those.

00:32:17.000 He is literally a gopher.

00:32:22.000 Okay, and then you have the courts that referee and decide if what the Congress is doing is constitutional.

00:32:33.000 And then the president is given power by nominating members to the court.

00:32:36.000 So it's all about separation of powers.

00:32:39.000 But have you really read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers and the debates of the time?

00:32:44.000 The Congress, because it was more separated, and it would be harder to get a dictatorship in the Congress, because they set powerful men against each other, and powerful interests against each other.

00:32:53.000 It was an ingenious system.

00:32:55.000 But it had faults, because the human condition has faults.

00:33:00.000 It has now been bought up by special interests and decadence and ignorance and blackmail.

00:33:04.000 And the Congresswoman can, of course, speak to that being up there on the hill.

00:33:08.000 I want to go to your phone calls, but Daniel, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you the floor for about six, seven minutes to get into your article of five months ago and what it covered and the fact that the Homeland Security...

00:33:21.000 I mean, then it was just a member of the Homeland Security Board and the chairman had asked for it.

00:33:24.000 Now they've been told no by the White House, but just the cover sheet of PDD 51 that Congress isn't allowed to see, the Homeland Security Committee, highest level security clearance, They're not allowed to see that, but the cover sheet says the President is basically God for any reason.

00:33:39.000 So, you've got the floor.

00:33:40.000 I'm not going to interrupt you.

00:33:41.000 I want you to cover whatever you think is most important.

00:33:43.000 Well, you know, just taking off from what you're saying here, originally it was Peter DeFazio who was simply a member of the Homeland Security Committee of the House.

00:33:52.000 and when he wasn't allowed to read what I've seen called the addenda to this presidential national security, I think it's NSPD 51, National Security Presidential Directive 51.

00:34:05.000 And when DeFazio realized that he was being denied access to these documents, he went to Benny Thompson, who was the chair of the Homeland Security Committee, and Thompson was rebuffed the same way.

00:34:22.000 It was interesting to read also that many prominent senators, including Tom Daschle, who at the time was the majority leader of the Senate, Senate. Robert Byrd, the most senior Democrat in the Senate, and many other high-ranking members of Congress were denied access.

00:34:45.000 Now, when the President issues a directive, as he did in 2007 with this one, and then refuses to allow Congress to see the conditions under which they are being governed and the country is being governed, you know that something sinks to high

00:35:09.000 What Bush had done prior to NSPD 51, as I said, that came in in 2000, that was issued by Bush in 2007.

00:35:18.000 What a lot of people don't realize is that since 9/11, when Bush issued Military Order No.

00:35:27.000 1, he basically took control of the country at that point a state of emergency was declared on I believe it was September 14, 2001.

00:35:37.000 That state of emergency was continued every year since then all the way up until 2007 when I believe based on the research that that I've done and that I've done with Mr.

00:35:52.000 Seiler that NSPD 51 only gave the President, any shred of power he didn't have under the previous Declaration of National Emergency is now taking them on through NSPD 51. And that's why they won't allow any members of Congress to even see what these documents entail.

00:36:15.000 So basically we're in, I believe, a state of emergency under a continuity of government scenario.

00:36:23.000 And if people think that's too preposterous, I'd like to Uh...

00:36:57.000 Nixon having to cede power because of his violations of law.

00:37:01.000 And you remember what Nixon said when he was interviewed a couple years later by David Frost, which was that if the president does it, it is therefore legal.

00:37:10.000 Well, that's not the way the United States of America is supposed to work.

00:37:14.000 That's not in our Constitution.

00:37:16.000 But Rumsfeld and Cheney got together in the Ford administration, where Cheney was the...

00:37:21.000 Cheney was chief of staff to Gerald Ford.

00:37:24.000 Rumsfeld at that point was the youngest Secretary of Defense in the country's history.

00:37:28.000 Later, during the administration of George W. Bush, he became the oldest Secretary of Defense in history.

00:37:34.000 But anyway, when these two guys got together, their purpose was to figure out how to install an all-powerful executive and all the trimmings that go with it.

00:37:46.000 And what are the trimmings that go with it?

00:37:48.000 Things like torture, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, surveillance of others.

00:37:56.000 Okay. Which

00:38:26.000 said in their document dated in 2000 that what the people of the United States would need was another Pearl Harbor in order to wake them up to the realities of the current world situation and that the United States would not be able to maintain its preeminent position in the global power structure unless there was another Pearl Harbor type event that galvanized them Well,

00:38:58.000 of things that would have to happen.

00:39:01.000 And those are exactly the things we've seen happen.

00:39:03.000 We've seen this invasion of the Middle East. 1.00

00:39:05.000 We've seen the invasion of Afghanistan.

00:39:07.000 We've seen rendition, torture, et cetera, et cetera.

00:39:10.000 The whole national security state really taking total predominance.

00:39:20.000 we certainly have, Congressman.

00:39:23.000 Hamburg, please continue with other reasons they want this martial law grid that can't be questioned.

00:39:31.000 They can federalize local police.

00:39:33.000 They can, under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, take over the governorships.

00:39:37.000 This is all being done through the threat fusion centers, the emergency management centers built in the late 90s.

00:39:43.000 They're openly moving National Guard in now with CIA officers in Texas and Illinois and New York and all over the place.

00:39:52.000 I mean, This is martial law, kind of a Red Dawn scenario, in not even slow motion now. 0.88

00:39:58.000 It's happening faster and faster all around us.

00:40:02.000 And then, as you said, you look at the fingerprints of terror attacks, and it's government.

00:40:06.000 It's black ops.

00:40:08.000 And now, I want you to comment on further things they're using this for before we get calls.

00:40:13.000 That's A. But then B, I do see a larger grassroots awakening taking place than I think they expected.

00:40:20.000 And the feedback we're getting from everybody across the nation and the world is there is a quickening of an awakening that's happening.

00:40:31.000 And so, B, how does that, how do you think that will play into this?

00:40:36.000 Well, I think that, you know, when you talk about the detention camps, what the detention camps are really for, and you hear people like Dan Ellsberg say, They'd be glad to stick immigrants in these camps, but they're also very useful to detain people who are not, you know, going along with the program. 0.59

00:41:00.000 Well, that's prime offense.

00:41:01.000 What if there was an attack of Iran?

00:41:04.000 I imagine you'd see millions of Americans in the streets.

00:41:08.000 But, Congressman, you're not imagining.

00:41:10.000 The original Rex 84 plan said they would use immigrants' detention as the cover to institutionalize and shell Uh, the mass arrest of the public, and then, and then now they even said in the Houston Chronicle, when they reported on it two years ago, uh, that it was for immigrants and dissenters.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, and how interesting that during the Iran-Contra hearing that was chaired by Senator Inouye, that Congressman Jack Brooks of Texas tried to dig into Oliver North's Rex 84, and Inouye quickly shushed him, and said, that is not something we can discuss in open session.

00:41:49.000 These things have been around for quite a while.

00:41:52.000 But then it was skeletal.

00:41:54.000 Now it is an 800-pound gorilla.

00:41:56.000 Yeah, but I think it's important for people to realize that none of these things happened overnight or during the tenure of any particular president.

00:42:05.000 Now this is a long, cold-blooded takeover of the society by the military-industrial complex.

00:42:11.000 Yeah, and I would really urge people to take a look on the Common Dreams website and look at the latest article by Chalmers Johnson.

00:42:18.000 It's called the Military-Industrial Complex.

00:42:20.000 It's much later than you think.

00:42:22.000 Because what he goes into there is how almost the entire, well, 70% of the U.S. intelligence budget is now in the hands of private contractors.

00:42:35.000 In other words, we are paying for-profit companies to do our intelligence, you know, for the nation.

00:42:43.000 And we wonder why the intelligence that we get And we wonder why we as Americans are so quickly losing any control over our government.

00:42:55.000 Well, it's because our government is basically functioning as a paymaster for mercenary corporations that are running the intelligence.

00:43:05.000 This is the nation being absorbed by the privately owned military industrial complex and now you have the big defense contractors with intelligence subdivisions Uh, right there, total conflict of interest, and they're saying, the people are the enemy, the people are the terrorists, we've got to spy and arrest and build more prisons.

00:43:23.000 Right, it makes work for them, it makes profit for them to, I mean, the more of us they can put into their database, the more they can bill us for in the form of these, these contracts.

00:43:36.000 I mean, companies like Science Applications International, Booz Allen Hamilton, CACI International, these are huge contractors with the United government to do the work that used to be done by people who were at least accountable to us because they worked for the government.

00:43:54.000 That's right.

00:43:55.000 In a way, Blackwater is a diversion.

00:43:59.000 They're tiny compared to the larger, more quiet that we see.

00:44:07.000 Yeah, and if Congress refuses to do a certain thing like this, remember when John Poindexter came out with his Total Information Awareness Program, and, you know, William Sapphire of the New York Times got all upset and said, you know, we can't have 300 billion Americans with dossiers with every purchase they make and every magazine subscription.

00:44:27.000 well you know congress that okay will book at red of that p_a_a_ program

00:44:47.000 you know they've they've got everything they need to go on any billion but it's completely criminal and then i have a cynical national debate about can't we listen to a phone call from bin laden to america when it has nothing to do with that it's everything down but it george carlin day you know he said that the american educational uh...

00:45:08.000 that don't doesn't work for some very good people Those reasons have to do with the distribution of power in the society.

00:45:17.000 They don't want us to know.

00:45:18.000 They don't want us to be smart enough to even ask questions.

00:45:20.000 Well, it's coming to a head, Congressman, before we go to calls.

00:45:23.000 And then you watch these cable news programs and, you know, all they've been covering is Obama, Clinton, McCain for the last year.

00:45:32.000 It's as if nothing else is happening on the planet except this, you know, this glamorized horse race.

00:45:40.000 Well, we know why they've preemptively built their police state, their control grid, because they plan to completely destroy the middle class and transfer all the wealth into private offshore corporations. 0.84

00:45:50.000 And they inflated the dollar.

00:45:53.000 They bought real assets with it.

00:45:54.000 Now they're going to leave us holding the bag and the debt.

00:45:57.000 Do you see any ways out of this?

00:46:00.000 Do you see any light at the end of the tunnel?

00:46:03.000 You know, it's all...

00:46:05.000 You know, I hate to sound cliché-ish, but it's all up to the American people.

00:46:10.000 You know, it's like that The clip you were playing before I came on, you know, we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore.

00:46:16.000 And it's almost that simple.

00:46:18.000 I mean, people have just got to decide they're not going to take it anymore.

00:46:22.000 And, you know, I'm encouraged by your saying that you think that kind of a feeling is spreading around the country.

00:46:30.000 I think people are very angry about what happened after November 2006.

00:46:34.000 And I think, you know, should, by some Slim chance Obama becomes president, and if he doesn't address these issues, the difficult state...

00:46:43.000 You know, I just think things are going to have to get worse before they get better.

00:46:47.000 I hate to say that, but I think it's true.

00:46:49.000 I think people are still very complacent.

00:46:52.000 I think they believe that, you know, somehow there'll be another bailout, another rescue, another bubble.

00:46:58.000 You know, some way that the middle class can sustain itself. 0.85

00:47:01.000 But we've, it's like, you know, we've run out of bubbles.

00:47:08.000 Well, it's been said by economists, this isn't a bubble, this is a tumor.

00:47:16.000 Congressman, I'll tell you this, I have a feeling that people are waking up, I have the hard cold facts and the numbers on that, so it's kind of a duality, or the best of times, worst of times.

00:47:27.000 At the same time, I have a deep foreboding, just from my intellectual analysis of what's happening, it appears That the elite is intending just to go to the wall. 0.80

00:47:36.000 They're a bunch of old, vicious, psychopathic men who enjoy hurting people and enjoy wars and enjoy evil. 0.90

00:47:44.000 And I think we're going into something that's going to mix Joe Stalin and Hitler. 0.98

00:47:50.000 I think it's going to rival that.

00:47:53.000 Well, you know, another way it can go is the demise of the United States as a country.

00:47:58.000 You know, into a North American Union with a new currency.

00:48:02.000 The dollar will be, you know, you can stick it in a, you know, enough in a wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread, that kind of thing.

00:48:09.000 And people will say, oh, a new currency that's actually worth something.

00:48:13.000 It'll be, you know, part of the new governmental entity, which no longer really includes the United States of America or its constitution.

00:48:25.000 We're going to come back in a final segment with our guest and talk to Steve, Morgan, DeLeon, and Harry.

00:48:32.000 Maybe hold our guests five minutes the next hour, so we'll have ten minutes to take calls.

00:48:37.000 These are the times, as I've said, that try men's souls.

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00:52:24.000 baby. I want to take a few of your calls for Congressman Dan Hamburg.

00:52:46.000 We're the crazy people.

00:52:48.000 We're the ones that happen to read government documents and Keep track of what's happening around us.

00:52:53.000 I see more and more Americans are becoming the crazy people who question authority and study history and recognize what's happening.

00:53:00.000 And in that lies the hope, ladies and gentlemen.

00:53:02.000 Be glad that a lot of people are awakening.

00:53:05.000 Stephen Illinois, you are on the air right now with former Congressman Dan Hamburg.

00:53:11.000 Go ahead.

00:53:12.000 Hi, I was wanting to get on with Ted Nugent, but didn't seem to.

00:53:18.000 He's not here, so yeah, you go ahead.

00:53:20.000 Well, I just, uh, wasn't he at Woodstock?

00:53:23.000 I just wondered how he got along.

00:53:24.000 No. He wasn't?

00:53:26.000 I don't believe so, sir.

00:53:27.000 Thank you for the call.

00:53:28.000 Wait a minute, I got something for, uh...

00:53:29.000 Okay, go ahead, Steve.

00:53:30.000 Um, what about, uh, career politicians, if, uh, we got rid of that?

00:53:35.000 And, um, uh, I would like to, they say that, uh, the police and army, you know, will stand by the citizens, um, and I believe, uh, in World War I, the veterans were, uh, awarded extra pay for combat, I believe.

00:53:48.000 Took 21 years to get them.

00:53:50.000 And they boycotted, walked on the White House, and the Army was sent in with tear gas and tanks and ran them off.

00:53:58.000 And it was the same, you know, they're fighting for their rights.

00:54:02.000 I just don't think it's going to happen.

00:54:04.000 The bonus marchers and two young World War I vets, officers, did the attack and were promoted for it against their own soldiers who were promised the pay, and your government will cheat you.

00:54:16.000 It enjoys it.

00:54:17.000 Uh, and now we're being told General Motors, uh, retirees are not going to get their retirement.

00:54:25.000 They're not going to get their health care.

00:54:26.000 Congressman, your comments on that?

00:54:29.000 Well, you know, I think governments will go to almost any extent in order to perpetuate themselves.

00:54:38.000 And, you know, as to whether you would have police or military units actually going against commanding officers and refusing to, you know, say in an urban riot control situation, fire on their own citizens, it makes me think back to Tiananmen Square.

00:54:58.000 Now, you know, I know that was in China, not in the land of the free, but in that case what they did was they, you know, they brought these guys in from a faraway province, you know, far away from Beijing, and they told them that they were

00:55:14.000 facing gangs of violent hoodlums, and they stuffed them full of methadrine and, you know, other kinds of drugs to get them in the mood, and then they set them loose on people, and you're damn right they fired their guns and, you know, used their bayonets and whatever they wanted to use.

00:55:34.000 And I think that it doesn't function that much different, at least in the kind of democracy we have now in this country.

00:55:41.000 I don't see a situation where the military will refuse to do what their commanding officers say, at least not on a, I don't think that's, We have over 100 million armed Americans and a 1% fight back.

00:56:00.000 That's 1 million lone wolf resistors and no army can stand against that, Congressman.

00:56:06.000 Well, you know, it's true.

00:56:09.000 It's true.

00:56:09.000 And I used to, you know, since I am, you know, sort of on the left and a liberal, I used to be much more into control of firearms than Than I am now because I don't you know stay there exactly all the liberals.

00:56:26.000 I know are buying guns stay there. 0.99

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00:57:57.000 During a break earlier, I looked at several different clips of Jesse Ventura yesterday on the Howard Stern Show, and Stern, instead of making fun of him, basically agreed on inside job to a certain extent.

00:58:09.000 But Ventura was more fiery than he's ever been.

00:58:12.000 You know, we woke Ventura up at the inside job a year and a half ago.

00:58:15.000 I gave him, um, then released Terror Storm and some other films.

00:58:20.000 That partially woke him up.

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00:58:28.000 I was talking to him just, what was it, last Thursday at his home about the whole New World Order situation.

00:58:36.000 He went on, he really broke it down well.

00:58:37.000 I'm going to play that in the last 10 minutes of the show today.

00:58:40.000 E. Howard Hunt's son, St. John Hunt, is coming up in a few minutes.

00:58:43.000 I want to get to one or two more calls for our guest.

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00:58:47.000 We're very thankful to service this country.

00:58:49.000 Yeah, I mean, it isn't that a lot of liberals, well-meaningly, thought, oh my God, guns are violent, they're bad, or they didn't grope around them. 0.51

00:58:55.000 They thought, we've got to control these, it's causing all these killings. 0.69

00:58:58.000 No, it's that America is a violent, piratical, cutthroat nation of criminals and explorers and slaves. 0.71

00:59:09.000 And native wars. 0.84

00:59:11.000 And so we're just violent, folks.

00:59:12.000 That's the way it is.

00:59:13.000 And so our guns get taken. 0.99

00:59:14.000 We just got a bunch of Nazis over us, killing us.

00:59:17.000 And that's why you can't get rid of the guns. 0.97

00:59:19.000 Because then only the crooks are gonna have them.

00:59:22.000 And everybody I know on the left, I mean, it doesn't matter if it's the Sheen family.

00:59:28.000 You think of them as liberal?

00:59:29.000 Uh-uh.

00:59:30.000 Or, you know, somebody like Willie Nelson.

00:59:32.000 Or, I mean, they believe in the Second Amendment.

00:59:35.000 Now more than ever, because people see that That you don't want the government with a monopoly of force.

00:59:41.000 Mr. Hamburg, you brought up an interesting point there, Congressman.

00:59:44.000 You want to comment more on that?

00:59:46.000 You know, I just...

00:59:48.000 You know, I was saying my own evolution from someone who really wanted very strict control of guns, and now I really do question that.

00:59:57.000 But I think a lot of...

00:59:59.000 You know, you were talking about the violence of the society.

01:00:01.000 A lot of it comes from the top.

01:00:04.000 If the federal government is perpetrating violence, I think that creates an idea in the minds of citizens that violence is the way you get things done.

01:00:13.000 Legitimizes. And, yeah.

01:00:15.000 And I think our federal government goes a long way toward legitimizing all kinds of things that we as a society need a lot less of.

01:00:22.000 Well said.

01:00:24.000 Absolutely well said.

01:00:26.000 I mean, folks, you think I like gangbangers on the streets with guns when I have children?

01:00:30.000 No. Heck no. 0.85

01:00:31.000 But I know that if they take my guns here, I'll end up being like New York or Chicago with the highest crime rates, because then both criminal government and street criminals all flock there.

01:00:42.000 Just an amazing interview.

01:00:43.000 I wanted to go to Belleon and Harry and Chris, but we just don't have time with the Congressman.

01:00:48.000 We got about two minutes left, sir.

01:00:49.000 Plug your website, and in two minutes, anything else you want to add?

01:00:53.000 Yeah, well, www.voiceoftheenvironment.org, and, you know, I just want to Thank you, Alex, for having this program and for allowing me to be on it.

01:01:06.000 People go to our website.

01:01:08.000 They can see a number of articles that Lewis Seiler and I have co-authored.

01:01:13.000 The most recent was on this idea of the United States being in a state of emergency in reality because of these emergency documents and the NSPD 51, but also because we have Yeah, and women who are responsible for guiding this country over the next six months.

01:01:39.000 I think so.

01:01:52.000 or the latter rather than the former.

01:01:54.000 But the truth shall set us free.

01:01:58.000 Stay informed.

01:01:59.000 Tell your friends.

01:02:00.000 You know, there's a fantastic documentary.

01:02:03.000 Bush has done one thing good.

01:02:05.000 It's helping to create this wave of great documentary films that people can now get access to and really get an understanding of how their country is being decimated around their very...

01:02:20.000 Well, it's like you said earlier, Congressman.

01:02:22.000 Things have got to get bad before they get better, and they have gotten bad, and so people are finding out.

01:02:27.000 You don't know what you have until it's gone.

01:02:28.000 They're finding we're having our liberties taken, so people are finally caring, and finally starting to wake up and get involved, and it's causing an awakening that transcends race, religion, political stripe.

01:02:40.000 Congressman Ham...

01:02:40.000 Well, that's what we need.

01:02:42.000 Yes, yes sir.

01:02:43.000 Congressman Hamburg, thanks for spending time with us.

01:02:45.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:02:46.000 You bet.

01:02:47.000 God bless.

01:02:48.000 We'll be right back.

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01:11:05.000 All right, that said, we're gonna go ahead now and go to St. John Hunt, who I appreciate us joining the broadcast.

01:11:13.000 I know we have loaded phone lines from the previous guests.

01:11:15.000 I'm sure St. John will be happy to talk about that because it all ties together.

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01:11:24.000 St. John, your book is so important, I couldn't put it down.

01:11:27.000 People need, because I got an advance copy online months ago, people need to get a copy.

01:11:32.000 Did you have a good response when you were on last week?

01:11:35.000 You know, Alex, I wanted to preface my time on your show with thanking not only you, but your very, very wide audience and all the people that responded so positively to my book.

01:11:50.000 I've gotten so many emails, and I will communicate with people.

01:11:54.000 They buy the book, and then I personally respond to every single email, notification of payment, and I personally respond to every person that buys the book, and I say, please give me some feedback on it.

01:12:06.000 Tell me what you think.

01:12:07.000 If you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to personally respond to each and every one of you.

01:12:12.000 I've spent a lot of time responding to a large number of your audience, and everybody has just been nothing but positive feedback from the book.

01:12:24.000 People can't put it down.

01:12:26.000 They love the book.

01:12:27.000 They love the story, although it's a very tragic story, but it's a very personal story.

01:12:31.000 It's a very important story, as you said, and I've just been having a great time responding to all the people that have Thank you very much.

01:12:42.000 support and have been about the book and uh...

01:12:45.000 actually uh...

01:12:46.000 adjusted a big favor to your to your listening audience i've lowered the price of the book uh...

01:12:51.000 down to five ninety nine for this day only and uh...

01:12:55.000 uh... my just uh...

01:12:56.000 you know your your audience is very a very intelligent uh...

01:13:00.000 group of people uh...

01:13:01.000 they're very there their questions are profound their interest is is uh...

01:13:06.000 serious they're dedicated uh...

01:13:08.000 Fans of yours, Alex, and I just don't want to ever downplay how important you are as a figure in the media and for the continuing fight of freedom and patriotism in this country.

01:13:23.000 I thank you very much, sir.

01:13:24.000 Thank you, St. John.

01:13:25.000 That's what we're here for, is I have countless wonderful activists and people on, whether it's their website and their news stories or a film or a book.

01:13:35.000 I know you got approached by A lot of big publishers, they got scared of it.

01:13:40.000 We've had Paul Craig Roberts on, and you know, he's even had trouble getting stuff published.

01:13:45.000 He's a former Wall Street Journal editor of its anti-establishment.

01:13:48.000 Another Roberts, Colonel Craig Roberts, who had a bunch of best-selling books.

01:13:53.000 But as soon as he came out with the JFK book, the biggest publishers in New York said, we know it'd be a hit, but we're not going to put this out.

01:14:00.000 I mean, there is control.

01:14:01.000 And that's what we do here is we try to bring you the loose change when nobody heard of it first here on this show.

01:14:07.000 We try to bring things like your new book that's so important to be read.

01:14:13.000 I mean, we try to bring people things that are being suppressed.

01:14:16.000 That's what this radio show is all about.

01:14:19.000 Getting the information on a wide spectrum of information from different perspectives, different You know, different nations, different nationalities, different religions, to just have a open debate and a larger discussion.

01:14:32.000 Give people your website so they can get the book.

01:14:35.000 It's stjohnhunt.com.

01:14:37.000 It's spelled out S-A-I-N-T-J-O-H-N-H-U-N-T dot com.

01:14:42.000 And, yeah, it is, it is, your radio station is one of the most important Uh, the energy is going on right now in the world and I've seen Truth Rising.

01:14:55.000 It's a masterful documentary.

01:14:56.000 Everybody listening should immediately go to Your website and order that.

01:15:02.000 And just order two and give one to a friend, you know?

01:15:05.000 By the way, St. John, do you like the style of that?

01:15:08.000 Because that's the new style.

01:15:09.000 I said I was into this film and a JFK one, and then it gets into shadow government and what's happening in the modern times.

01:15:15.000 In that style, that's the style of the film that I've been interviewing you for.

01:15:20.000 That's the style that Black Sunshine's gonna be in. 1.00

01:15:25.000 Oh, is that the name of it?

01:15:26.000 Black Sunshine?

01:15:27.000 Yes. Yeah, that's great, Alex.

01:15:29.000 The style is remarkable.

01:15:31.000 It's massively done.

01:15:33.000 It's fully realized, it's fully entertaining, and it's just an important document, an important DVD, and the information is just very professionally approached and professionally disseminated in a way that the average layman is not overwhelmed with one fact after another, but is drawn into the story.

01:15:58.000 About 9-11 and it's a great documentary.

01:16:03.000 Everybody should have a copy of that one.

01:16:04.000 You know, that's a good subject to bring up, St. John.

01:16:06.000 We've mentioned it before, but give me your take on the whole shadow government and 9-11 and what you think's going on.

01:16:12.000 Well, you know, it's really not that hard to understand what we have going on here.

01:16:20.000 The seeds were planted way back In the late 50s, I would say, and early 60s, one of the first acts of the shadow government was to assassinate President John Fitzgerald Kennedy in November of 1963.

01:16:36.000 This was what I would consider the first act in since then a long series of illegal, immoral, and almost fascist acts to wrest control Of course.

01:16:55.000 citizenry we have in this country of our civil rights, of our democracy, of our freedoms, and of our thought process, and resting that away from the average citizen, from all of us as citizens.

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01:17:16.000 I mean, it sounds crazy, but it's actually the truth.

01:17:19.000 We have the same group of people.

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01:17:30.000 So we have this long, consecutive row of government elitists, power brokers, bankers, and they're all pushing for the eventual complete martial law.

01:17:45.000 Stay there, stay there.

01:17:47.000 Let's come back and pick up with that.

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01:21:54.000 I hear the train a-comin' Saint John!

01:22:25.000 Your father, talking to you, correct me if I'm wrong, E. Howard Hunt, really thought he was defending America from the leftists and the communists, never knowing that that was controlled by the big banks as well, and he was in the false left-right paradigm.

01:22:40.000 Before he died, was he worried about the police state?

01:22:43.000 Did he see the loss of liberty?

01:22:45.000 What was happening?

01:22:46.000 Or was he still caught up in that and went rah-rah George Bush?

01:22:50.000 Or today, if he could say, see my films, or if somebody could talk to him and explain how he was compartmentalized in the larger picture, do you think he would have been anti-New World Order, or do you think he would have still thrown his lot in with the system?

01:23:05.000 Well, that's a very interesting question, and of course, I'll never know the definitive answer for that.

01:23:10.000 But in my opinion, I think my father first woke up from his This is what I would call his state of comatose blind faith in his government because we have to realize that he was raised in a very different time and era when we just,

01:23:33.000 you know, he served in World War II and, you know, it was a different kind of society back then.

01:23:41.000 But he first woke up from his state of comatose blind faith when he was carrying out the orders of President Richard Nixon and was part of the secret plumbers team that worked for the White House.

01:23:57.000 Now, when he was left holding a bag, so to speak, he served 33 and a half months of his life in federal penitentiary, and I think that was the first time that he really realized that these men We're acting for their own self-interest, and that was a very harsh moment, a very harsh reality that he had to face.

01:24:22.000 But I think now, if he were still alive, I would be the one to try to get him to watch Truth Rising or Endgame, and I think in seeing those Those kind of movies and listening to the kind of work that you're involved in, Alex, I think that as an educated person, how could he not?

01:24:47.000 Absolutely. And I mean, the evidence is they blew your mother up when she was going around getting the money to take care of all of Nixon's men coming into Chicago there in the Midway Airport.

01:25:00.000 I mean, do you think that's why he leaked the information to you, or was it more he was proud of what he did to the Kennedys?

01:25:07.000 Well, I think it's twofold.

01:25:09.000 I think he was...

01:25:10.000 I don't know if I can say he was proud of his involvement in the assassination of President Kennedy, because he never really fully told me the true story.

01:25:20.000 uh... the complete story uh...

01:25:22.000 and that was what i meant to say but um...

01:25:24.000 i think uh...

01:25:26.000 toward the end of his life he he uh...

01:25:28.000 there was a certain amount of uh... 0.98

01:25:29.000 i'm gonna get even with those bastards excuse my language there uh... 0.98

01:25:33.000 the people that had uh... 1.00

01:25:35.000 uh... murdered my mother and that had uh...

01:25:38.000 imprisoned him and uh...

01:25:40.000 and caused the destruction of our family uh...

01:25:42.000 it was a very tragic moment not only for this nation but uh...

01:25:45.000 but for but for us as uh...

01:25:47.000 as his sons and daughters I think we all have come to a point in our lives now where we are starting to wake up to what's really going on.

01:25:58.000 And what's important here is that instead of spending $20 at McDonald's or something like that, take that money, buy your film, buy Truth Rising, buy a copy of my book, and just give it a chance.

01:26:14.000 Because it's important now more than ever that we come to a fully uh...

01:26:19.000 realized state of of what's what's really been going on and there is time this is really a big this is the alamo of of what's going on now and uh...

01:26:28.000 that people like yourself and uh...

01:26:30.000 and myself there are better trying to get these these troops out that have been turned down by the mainstream media after all my book uh...

01:26:37.000 my book made its way around the uh...

01:26:39.000 the major publishing houses and no one would touch it uh...

01:26:41.000 60 Minutes flew me down to San Francisco for an extensive set of interviews where they went through all my documentation, all my father's handwritten memos.

01:26:49.000 And after having verified everything, I was due to come on 60 Minutes, and this story was going to break mainstream media.

01:26:59.000 And one of the top executive producers of 60 Minutes called me and said, well, we can't run with the story because we've been told from at the very top level that this is not going to see the light of day.

01:27:15.000 Absolutely. Stay there.

01:27:28.000 We're going to come back and go to Harry, Chris, Jim, Patience, Joseph, and others.

01:27:33.000 I'm going to cram your calls in.

01:27:34.000 I'm going to play some clips of Ventura on Stern going further than he's ever gone.

01:27:37.000 He's really getting it.

01:27:39.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

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01:28:49.000 May I have your attention please?

01:28:50.000 Everybody's attention, please.

01:28:52.000 I've come with a message of information.

01:28:54.000 9-11 was an inside job.

01:28:57.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

01:28:58.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

01:29:00.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

01:29:02.000 Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?

01:29:07.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

01:29:16.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

01:29:22.000 An inside job?

01:29:24.000 How dare you?

01:29:27.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

01:29:32.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

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01:31:10.000 No more Mr. Nice Guy.

01:31:13.000 That's what it's going to take.

01:31:14.000 Stop backing down from tyranny.

01:31:16.000 It's to be such a sweet, sweet thing to lay.

01:31:20.000 Got a hold of me.

01:31:22.000 I open doors for little old ladies. 1.00

01:31:27.000 I help the blind to see.

01:31:29.000 I got no friends because they read the papers.

01:31:35.000 They can't be seen with me.

01:31:39.000 And I'm getting real shot down.

01:31:42.000 And I'm feeling me.

01:31:45.000 No more, Mr.

01:31:47.000 Nice Guy.

01:31:49.000 No more.

01:31:52.000 Thanks for joining us today.

01:31:53.000 Now, we need to help little old ladies across the street. 1.00

01:31:55.000 We need to do things like that, but we need to not be so nice to crooks in government. 1.00

01:32:02.000 Stop being such schmucks. 0.99

01:32:03.000 St. John Hunt is our guest for just about 10 more minutes. 1.00

01:32:05.000 Want to go to your phone calls?

01:32:07.000 His website is stjohnhunt.com.

01:32:08.000 You heard it today.

01:32:09.000 Huge discount.

01:32:10.000 It's about half off on his e-book.

01:32:12.000 This needs to get out.

01:32:13.000 People need to know this.

01:32:14.000 His work needs to be supported.

01:32:16.000 It's so important.

01:32:18.000 Okay, let's go ahead right now and go to Harry in Michigan.

01:32:22.000 He's all the way all over the map, but that's fine.

01:32:24.000 Go ahead, Harry.

01:32:25.000 You're on the air with St. John Hunt.

01:32:26.000 Hi, Alex.

01:32:28.000 Good to be on the air again with you.

01:32:30.000 It's been a couple, three months.

01:32:32.000 I remember, I'm going to be 62 years old, and I was around when St. John's father and mother and the whole incident happened.

01:32:44.000 I remember it very well.

01:32:47.000 That was about the time I got the awakening and what was going on in this world, after serving in Vietnam in 1965.

01:32:55.000 And I had several questions for all your guests today.

01:32:59.000 I mean, your shows are fantastic.

01:33:00.000 And by the way, Truth Rising is some of your best work, man.

01:33:04.000 Thank you.

01:33:05.000 I've made probably 90 copies of it and passed it out already.

01:33:09.000 That's what I want to thank you for.

01:33:11.000 Because to me, it's about effecting change.

01:33:13.000 That's what I want.

01:33:14.000 Well, you're doing it, pal.

01:33:17.000 I'll tell you.

01:33:17.000 I'm backing you 100%.

01:33:19.000 I tried to turn down at least 90 films a month and pass them around.

01:33:25.000 I've had a couple calls from my homeland even asking me if I wanted a job in the database.

01:33:33.000 Anyway, I don't know where to start now.

01:33:38.000 I had so many questions for all your guests.

01:33:41.000 Well, go ahead and address the ones you have for St. John.

01:33:43.000 Well, I'm very interested in your book, and I've got to read it.

01:33:51.000 I'm going to order it today for sure.

01:33:57.000 The way this world is now, I see that before the election, there's going to be a major tragedy going on over and between Israel and Iran. 0.93

01:34:12.000 I know it's going to happen, and I'm preparing myself for it.

01:34:16.000 What do you think about it?

01:34:18.000 Well, bad for the people, good for the elites.

01:34:19.000 We pray it doesn't happen.

01:34:21.000 It looks like it's a very good possibility it could, St. John.

01:34:25.000 Yeah, I think we're headed in that direction.

01:34:27.000 I think there's going to be something, a terribly tragic event occurring over in the Middle East there.

01:34:33.000 I couldn't agree with you, sir, more.

01:34:37.000 Good to hear from you, Harry.

01:34:39.000 Appreciate all you do.

01:34:40.000 Chris, in British Columbia, you're on the air with St. John Hunt.

01:34:44.000 Hey, Alex and John.

01:34:45.000 Thank you for taking my call.

01:34:47.000 I know what your last guest said in regards to the possibilities of Israel and Iran having conflict.

01:34:52.000 I wanted to kind of bring it back more to homeland concerns as far as the avian flu vaccines that are probably going to be making their way to our shores very shortly.

01:35:00.000 I wanted to get your comments quickly on...

01:35:02.000 Well, we have a video on that.

01:35:04.000 It hasn't jumped to humans.

01:35:05.000 It's a big hype.

01:35:06.000 Just like SARS, but it is dangerous because they could release one that did get into humans, and the government's done chemical and biological and radiological tests that have killed citizens thousands of times, so they're the number one terrorist.

01:35:19.000 They launched the anthrax attack, and they could throw a curveball in, like a bio-attack, a chemical attack.

01:35:26.000 I got a Newsmax propaganda story here today saying U.S. intel Iran plans nuclear strike on U.S. Just like they said about Iraq.

01:35:35.000 This just out today, I mean, they are really saber-rattling and putting out this info.

01:35:40.000 St. John?

01:35:40.000 Yeah, I know it's definitely not something to take lightly, for sure, but I'm looking at the overall, what the overall goal, and in the Bilderberg meeting, apparently, the agenda, they weren't all keen on getting into a battle with Iran because of the way the oil price has been squeezing the American people and the angst that it's creating as well.

01:35:54.000 Now, my concern is you look at the overall, what the result of a pandemic would be fits their agenda completely, because you get compliance from the people, stay in your houses, take these vaccines, These kinds of things, right?

01:36:05.000 And they can shore up the borders real quick, too.

01:36:08.000 So my question will be, I'll leave it at this, is what can Canadians do, like me, that I'm on the border, I'm looking over, I can see farms, American farms here.

01:36:16.000 When and if martial law does get put into place, what would Americans need from Canadians as support?

01:36:21.000 Well, number one, you're going to have it there.

01:36:24.000 This is a Western thing that's happening.

01:36:27.000 And number two, you've got to realize your police up there are being brainwashed and trained by our police and by other forces.

01:36:33.000 Oh, they're all intermingled.

01:36:34.000 I can see it.

01:36:35.000 We've got FBI in Vancouver, so it's...

01:36:37.000 I know, I understand that, but when the initial...

01:36:39.000 You just better get the word out to everybody in your area that the government's gone bad, that it's rogue, and any Americans that they're after that make it across, you've got to take care of them.

01:36:48.000 You know, assess for yourself whether they're good people or not.

01:36:51.000 There's always some bad ones mixed in.

01:36:52.000 And that's what the globalists, you know, they do some good, but then they do more bad.

01:36:56.000 It's sophisticated.

01:36:58.000 It's not just...

01:36:59.000 It's not like they're against Iran, so Iran's good. 0.93

01:37:01.000 No, Iran's corrupt as well. 0.98

01:37:03.000 It's the good, the bad, and the ugly we're talking about. 0.82

01:37:05.000 I appreciate your call.

01:37:06.000 Any take on what he was saying, St. John?

01:37:08.000 Well, I'd like to add that, you know, the old saying, the pen is mightier than the sword, and that in many cases is true, but don't forget about the sword.

01:37:18.000 So I might suggest to anybody that's that's worried about martial law is uh...

01:37:23.000 people to keep a good stock of food supplies and ammo yeah you've got to be self-sufficient that really is the best uh...

01:37:32.000 the best advice you can get ladies and gentlemen thank you chris jim in russia you're on the air with saint john hunt yeah hi alex can you hear me yes sir hello okay uh...

01:37:45.000 Couple things.

01:37:46.000 Thank you, Alex, for all that you do, man.

01:37:48.000 You and Dr. Stan, I listen to you guys basically a few hours a day.

01:37:53.000 Thank you.

01:37:53.000 So, thanks for your work.

01:37:55.000 St. John, thanks for coming out with the information about what your dad did.

01:38:00.000 I guess the big question for me is, is there any point in going back to the States and trying to take this door-to-door to the American people, or is it too late?

01:38:11.000 I mean, you hear Jesse kind of saying, He thinks it's too late.

01:38:16.000 You know, we can inform people, or we can start organizing people.

01:38:19.000 When I was in my late teens, early twenties, I was an organizer in South Florida, Memphis, Tennessee, and the San Francisco Bay Area.

01:38:26.000 Is there a point to go back, or should we just try to, like, survive somewhere?

01:38:30.000 You should plan for the best, prepare for the worst.

01:38:33.000 I would do both.

01:38:34.000 Wake people up, and have a place to boogie out to.

01:38:36.000 If you need to be self-sufficient, but also wake as many as you can.

01:38:39.000 Sunshine is the best disinfectant, St. John.

01:38:42.000 I would have to say that it's absolutely never too late.

01:38:48.000 Having that kind of thought mentality in your mind that, well, it's too late, so where do we go from here?

01:38:57.000 There's never going to be a place.

01:38:59.000 We're just all stuck on this one planet, so there's never going to be a mountain that's too remote.

01:39:05.000 There's never going to be a house that's too secure.

01:39:08.000 uh... from the new world order and what we have to do it did not think of it in terms of the ever been too late to put the last man standing it's still not too late absolutely another great comment uh...

01:39:20.000 from saint john hughes author of the new book bond of secrecy available at saint john hughes dot com anything else jim in russia in uh...

01:39:27.000 so a lot of russians are aware of the new world order what they're up to what they've been up to in their country since the uh...

01:39:33.000 early nineteen hundreds and like that The question is, you know, is this the time to come back to the United States and fight the battle on the ground, door-to-door, there?

01:39:42.000 Or is it time to just, you know, find a place and bug out?

01:39:47.000 Well, that's your decision.

01:39:48.000 That's your personal decision to make.

01:39:50.000 We just put the information out and then you make your own decision.

01:39:53.000 Yeah, you don't have to come to the United States to fight the battle.

01:39:57.000 You, sir, can fight the battle, and it seems like you are fighting the battle right where you are.

01:40:02.000 We have a world that goes beyond boundaries, that goes beyond borders.

01:40:09.000 We have the internet, we have databases, we have...

01:40:13.000 Yeah, this isn't just the U.S. Exactly, St. John.

01:40:16.000 This is free humanity against strongmen, king rats, and thugs. 0.85

01:40:19.000 Thanks, Jim.

01:40:20.000 One last call and we have time to...

01:40:22.000 Take us Patience, maybe BL too. 0.57

01:40:24.000 Patience, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:40:26.000 Yeah, I'm Patience.

01:40:28.000 I'm from a little city in Southern California known as San Bernardino.

01:40:32.000 Oh yeah.

01:40:32.000 And I just wanted to say thank you for being the news when nobody else will.

01:40:38.000 And you know what?

01:40:39.000 I'm going to buy that book.

01:40:40.000 If you can go ahead and put it on your website, Mr. Jones, that your guest has.

01:40:46.000 Well, just go to stjohnhunt.com.

01:40:48.000 Okay, I will.

01:40:49.000 stjohnhunt.com.

01:40:50.000 Yeah, and I just wanted to let you know that, you know, before I listened to your radio show, I never could have imagined NWL.

01:41:00.000 I never could have imagined it.

01:41:01.000 And then I opened my eyes, and I started reading.

01:41:04.000 And I have a support group for parents dealing with DCFS, you know, CPS.

01:41:08.000 Yeah, the child kidnapping ranks.

01:41:10.000 As it turns out, a lot of these judges sit on the board of directors to adoption agencies.

01:41:15.000 Oh yeah, it's a big sickening business, and it's just amazing.

01:41:19.000 Check this out.

01:41:20.000 In my town, they have this thing called Operation Phoenix that my mayor and ex-DCFS judge started.

01:41:27.000 They're raiding the poor parts of town, whole apartment complex, loading children up 38 at a time at 4 o'clock in the morning.

01:41:35.000 Good God, what town is that?

01:41:37.000 San Bernardino, California.

01:41:39.000 San Bernardino.

01:41:40.000 I'm aware of similar things.

01:41:42.000 I don't have the staff.

01:41:43.000 Somebody needs to research that.

01:41:45.000 Write an article.

01:41:46.000 You write an article with facts or some blurbs.

01:41:48.000 Get it to Aaron at InfoWars.com.

01:41:50.000 Well, I've got all the goods.

01:41:51.000 I've got all the goods.

01:41:51.000 I've got social workers.

01:41:53.000 This is what we need.

01:41:55.000 We need you to put it together in an article and to email it to Aaron at Infowars.com and have just the facts, ma'am, and we will post it on the Prison Planet message board.

01:42:03.000 Hi, Alex.

01:42:17.000 Hey, BL.

01:42:17.000 St. John Hunt, thanks again for making this information public in my lifetime.

01:42:22.000 I just wanted to ask, I've never actually seen a good picture of your father.

01:42:27.000 Was he 6 feet or so, slim, wiry build, prematurely gray?

01:42:34.000 Actually, he was about 5'9", kind of stocky, barrel-chested.

01:42:44.000 He was a very handsome man, and he was handsome when he was older, too.

01:42:52.000 If you go to my book, I have quite a few personal family photographs.

01:42:56.000 You can see seven or eight pictures of our family and my dad at different times in his career when he was, you know, conducting his black op missions around the world.

01:43:05.000 I thought that might have been him I met playing good cop at the Irving shooting range, but it must have been somebody else.

01:43:12.000 I would like to point out that the military guy that was Pretending to be Oswald, who didn't really look that much like him, but vaguely.

01:43:22.000 It was young enough that he might still be alive.

01:43:26.000 I would love to find out who that guy was and somebody talk to him.

01:43:30.000 Assuming he didn't die of something.

01:43:32.000 Assuming he didn't die of unnatural causes.

01:43:35.000 We gotta jump.

01:43:36.000 We gotta jump.

01:43:36.000 Thank you, BL.

01:43:37.000 Call back in more with that story later.

01:43:39.000 St. John, we'll have you up again in the next few months as more develops.

01:43:42.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

01:43:44.000 Alex, thank you again.

01:43:46.000 You just keep on truckin', brother.

01:43:48.000 You too, my friend.

01:43:49.000 Okay, I'm going right into this Jesse Ventura interview.

01:43:51.000 These are some cuts out of an hour-long Howard Stern interview.

01:43:55.000 We're airing this to analyze it and critique what Stern's saying.

01:43:57.000 He's come a long way, and this is pretty exciting because Howard Stern is a cultural phenomenon.

01:44:02.000 Here it is, a barn burner.

01:44:04.000 Did the Vietnam War not mean that? 0.99

01:44:06.000 I mean, in retrospect.

01:44:07.000 Totally. Yeah.

01:44:08.000 And Iraq is the same sort of situation.

01:44:09.000 Absolutely. All of it.

01:44:10.000 Well, I was teaching at Harvard in 2004 when McNamara come through.

01:44:15.000 Right. Well, they've now admitted the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened.

01:44:19.000 Right. Well, that's the catalyst that got us in the war.

01:44:22.000 They said the North Vietnamese fired at two of our ships.

01:44:25.000 It's a declaration of war.

01:44:26.000 So that the entire war was based upon that lie.

01:44:29.000 So you would take us right out of Iraq.

01:44:30.000 Absolutely. Would you run for president?

01:44:33.000 Uh, have you read my book, Howard?

01:44:36.000 Uh, no.

01:44:37.000 Okay, well, I suggest go read the epilogue, because what I did in the book is I wrote factual all the way to the epilogue, and then without telling the reader, I went to fiction.

01:44:48.000 And I make a fictitious run for the presidency, and I'm assassinated.

01:44:54.000 Because I believe in my heart, Howard, that if an independent like me had a shot to do it, And it looked like I was gonna win, someone would get you.

01:45:05.000 Do you worry about...

01:45:06.000 Does that bother you when you say about this country?

01:45:10.000 Not anymore.

01:45:11.000 It doesn't bother you.

01:45:12.000 I don't believe 9-11 anymore.

01:45:14.000 Wow. Yeah, you've said that.

01:45:16.000 Well, we've talked about that.

01:45:16.000 You've said that.

01:45:17.000 You say, I live in Mexico now.

01:45:19.000 I mean, do you enjoy living outside of the United States?

01:45:22.000 Yes, because it gives you a new perception of the United States.

01:45:25.000 It gives you one from the outside looking in as opposed to the inside looking out.

01:45:30.000 And I think if hypothetically, We could get everyone in this country to have that opportunity.

01:45:37.000 I think you'd see a change in the United States for the better.

01:45:41.000 We're arrogant.

01:45:42.000 We have an arrogance about us that needs to disappear.

01:45:47.000 Because you know what the most popular shirt way down in Mexico is with all the little kids?

01:45:52.000 What is it?

01:45:52.000 It's a picture of George Bush on a t-shirt and it says weapon of mass destruction.

01:45:57.000 Yeah, we've got a real shitty image around the world right now. 0.97

01:45:59.000 And right now the rest of the world is fearful that if they cross the United States, we'll attack them. 0.85

01:46:04.000 It's because of Iraq. 1.00

01:46:06.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:46:06.000 Because, and that's why...

01:46:08.000 Afghanistan, everyone was with us.

01:46:09.000 Do you want to know why I hate Iraq so much? 0.98

01:46:11.000 Because they destroyed my belief in America.

01:46:15.000 My mother and father are both World War II veterans.

01:46:18.000 As I said, my brother and I are Vietnam veterans.

01:46:21.000 And I never believed that my country would line up our military at the border of another sovereign nation without being asked.

01:46:30.000 We would invade that nation, overthrow its government, and occupy it.

01:46:35.000 That's what the Nazis did. 0.86

01:46:36.000 That's what the Communists did. 0.70

01:46:38.000 Now we've done it.

01:46:40.000 Why do you think Bush did it?

01:46:41.000 Do you think just for oil?

01:46:42.000 Or do you think because he was pissed off that Saddam Hussein was, you know, hanging out with his father and going to war with him?

01:46:49.000 I think that it falls to, have you followed that thing and read about that thing in 92 during Bush 1?

01:46:56.000 There was a document in the think tank that they had, the Center for the American Experiment, I forget what they called it, New Cent, something or other named that.

01:47:04.000 Well, it was made up of Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, the whole cast of characters.

01:47:10.000 Same guys.

01:47:11.000 Same guys.

01:47:12.000 And in 92, they were posed to go out and gather information and come forward with recommendations on How do we make the United States the sole superpower of the world?

01:47:24.000 Wow. And their recommendations was one of them, controlling Middle Eastern oil.

01:47:29.000 Because China and India are becoming industrialized.

01:47:33.000 If you control Middle Eastern oil, you control them. 1.00

01:47:37.000 Because of the oil factor.

01:47:38.000 And by the way...

01:47:39.000 Now, wait.

01:47:39.000 Now, the part that gets to me is that at the end in their summation, they list all the things required, but then they say right there, It'll take many, many years to implement this, unless a Pearl Harbor type of event were to occur.

01:47:57.000 That would be in nine years later a Pearl Harbor, when you had Bill Clinton then.

01:48:03.000 The problem was they were Bush one, Clinton one then.

01:48:06.000 So there was an eight-year hiatus and then these jokers came in 2000 and a year later we had a Pearl Harbor type of event.

01:48:14.000 So I find that a little bit more than coincidental.

01:48:17.000 So are you one of those guys that advocates that Bush should be put on trial for this?

01:48:23.000 Not yet.

01:48:25.000 But I think that the problem I have, Howard, is I was a member of UDT 12 for three years and SEAL Team 1 for two.

01:48:34.000 Now, do you know what UDT means?

01:48:36.000 No. Underwater Demolition Team.

01:48:39.000 Go ahead.

01:48:40.000 In other words, I was trained by the best demo man this country has.

01:48:45.000 To blow things up?

01:48:47.000 Right. How could those buildings fall at the rate of...

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01:51:50.000 How could those buildings fall at the rate of gravity?

01:51:53.000 With no resistance?

01:51:55.000 They fell as fast as a billiard ball in a vacuum.

01:51:59.000 How could there be no resistance, Howard?

01:52:02.000 So you really feel the government?

01:52:04.000 Well, how did building 7 fall?

01:52:07.000 5 hours later implodes into its own footprint?

01:52:10.000 And I've talked this over with some of my teammates, and we all agree.

01:52:14.000 There had to be something that assisted all of that.

01:52:18.000 They could not come down like that.

01:52:20.000 Do you have an exact scenario of what you think happened?

01:52:22.000 No, I don't.

01:52:23.000 Right, you just think...

01:52:24.000 No, I don't.

01:52:27.000 There's more questions that are unanswered.

01:52:31.000 Like, did you know today, and you can go to the website, the Department of Justice has never charged Osama Bin Laden.

01:52:40.000 Right. Wow.

01:52:41.000 Now, shouldn't he be indicted?

01:52:43.000 We went to war.

01:52:44.000 They told us he was the cause.

01:52:46.000 He admitted to it.

01:52:47.000 No, he did not.

01:52:48.000 He never admitted to it.

01:52:49.000 He first went on Al Jazeera and said he had nothing to do with it.

01:52:53.000 That tape they sent, you gotta read that.

01:52:56.000 That's a joke.

01:52:57.000 He's talking about totally other things.

01:52:59.000 All of a sudden there's a garble mess.

01:53:01.000 He comes back and explains the buildings will melt and collapse.

01:53:05.000 Just what they told us.

01:53:06.000 And then it goes back to a different subject.

01:53:08.000 It's bogus.

01:53:09.000 So you think he's the poster child, the one you blame for everything?

01:53:13.000 I think he's dead today.

01:53:14.000 I don't even think he's alive.

01:53:16.000 I think he is the modern Lee Harvey Oswald.

01:53:20.000 You think that they sort of keep his image out there, keep him alive in our minds so that we have an enemy?

01:53:26.000 A boogeyman.

01:53:27.000 A boogeyman.

01:53:27.000 We got the boogeyman out there.

01:53:29.000 See, for many years it was communism, then it was the war on drugs, now it's the war on terror.

01:53:36.000 All through our life, we've had to have a boogeyman.

01:53:39.000 And you know what's interesting about the communist situation?

01:53:42.000 When I go to L.A. now, I get a lot of car drivers who happen to be Russian, for some reason.

01:53:48.000 They've migrated here. 1.00

01:53:49.000 And they're about my age, and I've talked to these guys.

01:53:52.000 And I say, tell me something.

01:53:54.000 During the Cold War, what were you being told?

01:53:57.000 And they tell me, to a person, they all say, we were being told we had to stop the capitalist imperialists from taking over the world.

01:54:05.000 Well, Howard, what were we being told?

01:54:08.000 We have to stop the communists from taking over the world.

01:54:11.000 Do you think they got together?

01:54:13.000 And they said, we'll tell our people this, you tell your people that, and we'll have this hatred and conflict for 40 years that we can all deal with.

01:54:23.000 So here's the thing I don't understand.

01:54:25.000 So here we're in Iraq now, and we have control of their oil.

01:54:29.000 True, I mean, we're running the show over there.

01:54:31.000 I didn't think so.

01:54:32.000 But it seems like things are out of control anyway, so the plan isn't working all that well.

01:54:36.000 We're gonna have to leave Iraq.

01:54:37.000 But it's probably, you know, they probably also said in that report it's gonna take many, many years to get this whole situation under control.

01:54:45.000 Well, let's remember, though, our oil companies now are in control of their oil.

01:54:49.000 Yeah! So do you think the plan was successful?

01:54:52.000 Well, remember this now, yeah, because remember now, we had sanctions against Iraq for like 15 years.

01:54:59.000 So Iraq is like the second or third potential oil country in the world.

01:55:04.000 Well, it's been held back, so we have to buy from the Saudis. 0.99

01:55:08.000 Now, tell me, and I always love this, you know how Republicans are so anti-gay? 0.92

01:55:12.000 Yeah. Right?

01:55:14.000 What looks more gay than when George Bush comes walking out with some Arab in sheets, holding hands, skipping out to talk? 1.00

01:55:21.000 They kiss! 0.98

01:55:22.000 I don't know, but I've never seen that.

01:55:24.000 I've seen them kiss!

01:55:25.000 Really? Yes!

01:55:26.000 Now what looks more gay than that? 0.98

01:55:27.000 I cannot imagine. 0.95

01:55:28.000 I can tell you this, Howard, if I were the president, you'd never see that from me.

01:55:32.000 And I'm not anti-gay.

01:55:33.000 I know you're not.

01:55:34.000 I can't imagine, though.

01:55:36.000 I've listened to what you've said, though.

01:55:38.000 And I gotta tell you something.

01:55:39.000 I would have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that George Bush Who maybe, certainly is not the best president in the world.

01:55:46.000 I do not believe that he would be that evil to attack his own country, to be involved in an attack on his own country on a building.

01:55:55.000 I don't believe that of the man.

01:55:57.000 I honestly don't.

01:55:58.000 Well, let me read this for you a moment, Howard.

01:56:01.000 I got something to read and I'm going to ask you who said it.

01:56:04.000 And tell me if it does not apply to the United States since 9-11.

01:56:08.000 Alright, go ahead.

01:56:09.000 Here we go.

01:56:10.000 This is a quote.

01:56:11.000 All right, folks, we're out of time.

01:56:13.000 We'll play a little bit more tomorrow as we're analyzing and critiquing that.

01:56:16.000 Retransmission starts now with Ted Nugent, who was on today.

01:56:20.000 Fiery interview.

01:56:21.000 We had Congressman Hamburg on as well.

01:56:24.000 Restreaming on the internet at infowars.com right now.

Alex Jones Show - July 30, 2008

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